Neu! - Classic or Dud?

Influences? Stereolab at times very obvious (but hey give it a nice spin). Other than that? D.A.F. probably. And then through them and Liaisons Dangereus you could trace an influence to Detroit Techno. But I don't think those guys were directly influenced by NEU!

The Fall maybe?

But what *will* be interesting, will be to see if their cult status is re-appraised in the light of the increased availability of their material. I'm not saying the *only* reason they've reached the status they have is cause the records are so damned hard to find. (clearly that's rubbish) But it will be interesting to see how people react.

As for Neu themselves, almost disgustingly classic, if you will. I remember a friend saying in 1993 or so, "You like Stereolab? You need to hear these guys." Things made a lot more sense after I did.

Speaking of Stereolab, friend ML saw them at an early show and pegged the heavy-duty Neu influence, and asked them about it after the show. Apparently they weren't just surprised that someone had twigged it, they hastily broke off talking with him and went away as if somebody had just released an atomic bomb. About six months later they started admitting it in interviews.

And you know what? They're not. At least, I've never heard it.

http://www.astralwerks.com/neu/quotes.html

Bowie himself says at most the influence on his music was 'tenuous,' but clearly he loved it, and says he wanted Rother to play on _Low_.

Speaking of Cluster, is it pretty impossible to track their stuff down, like it was with pre-reissue Neu! stuff? I will (can) not spend 40 dollars on a piece of (possibly scratched-up) vinyl, either... :-)

As for the Cluster material, most of that material has been reissued through All Saints(if I am not mistaken.) Most everything by the good german prog bands was reissued/bootlegged in the 90's. You might have to hunt, or pay higher prices, but it is out there.

From now: Ner

I guess "Hallogallo" is the "Stereolab" one. No denying the close similarity, particularly the stabbing wah-chords which Tim Gane seems very fond of.

And Dr.C nails it, 'Hallo Gallo' is the only real Stereolab track, every time I expect Laetitia to start singing: "We're bored/with the dialectic/of the masses/and space/bah-bab-bah-bab.

(Did I say this up-thread? D.Bowie said "Neu! Neu! Neu!" abt ten trillion times in 1978-9 but he never sounded like em once.)

You may be evil but your theory of influence is better than many (ie quite like mine haha). Biggest influence on [x] = ppl they HATE and exactly DON'T want to sound like.

Is it worth checking out the live recordings? I've heard the sound quality is very poor, and theyre usually around £20-£25.

You hear their influences everywhere. Hell, Wilco's "Spider" features a classic driving Neu! beat.

http://mitglied.lycos.de/neuschnee/Neu4.htm
http://mitglied.lycos.de/neuschnee/Neu72.htm

The best tapes are the Kraftwerk live boots with the Schneider / Dinger / Rother lineup, right before D&R spun off to form Neu! An appearence on the TV show 'Beatclub' called 'Rückstoss Gondolero' and the live in Cologne tape, June 12th 1971. They were all collected on a vinyl bootleg called 'Ruckzuck' last year. The Cologne tape is ultra-low-fidelity but the music is incredible.

To the Cornyfield they fux0r.

does the rest of their albums have the same mix of heavier and and more ambient songs?

these guys like it though: http://mitglied.lycos.de/neuschnee/Discography.htm

NEU! '72 is definately no album you must have, but it's an album which gives an in-depth look at NEU!'s live problems.

Neu '72 is knocking round in my garage.

They do?

As much as I love the Harmonia Live 1974 album, I really really want this to be released. Preferably on DVD. WDR/Dinger/Rother/Grönemeyer, are you reading?

Does anyone else find Neu's drumming a bit. . . corny?

-- RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Wednesday, May 25, 2005 2:36 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Link

most wrong thing ever posted on ILM?

I bought Neu! 75 this weekend - my first Neu! album; kinda surprising that it took me so long to pick something up by them. I've only listened a few times but I dig it so far. I'm responding more to the second half than the first, but I've not really spent the right kind of time with the first half. Riding the bus to work = not ideal.

If your busride is 30 plus minutes and your headphones block enough environmental sound than I'd say it's a pretty ideal situation to be listening to Neu!

I think I prefer LaDusseldorf

I listen to La D a lot more than I listen to Neu! but I'm not sure which one I prefer. You might enjoy this great clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b48qPmJudE

Gotta love those white overalls...

If your busride is 30 plus minutes and your headphones block enough environmental sound than I'd say it's a pretty ideal situation to be listening to Neu!

If only life were this luxurious.

I think I prefer LaDusseldorf

Now you're talking crazy. La D is pretty great, but the first half NEU! 2 is one of the landmarks of the 20th century. Ok, slight hyperbole, perhaps?

So, are Neu! and Neu! 75 vital, must-have discs, or at this point, just interesting historical documents/period pieces?

I've had these discs on an eMusic "Saved For Later" page forever, but I think it's time to fish-or-cut-bait.

are Neu! and Neu! 75 vital, must-have discs

Yes.

Ja! Fish!

(you'll probably play them for the rest of the night ;-))

Good remembrance here:

http://nastybrutalistandshort.blogspot.com/2008/04/shock-of-neu.html

don't forget Neu! 2

>>I've had these discs on an eMusic "Saved For Later" page forever, but I think it's time to fish-or-cut-bait.

Seems like a no-brainer purchase for eMusic - in fact, I signed up for eMusic last month and Neu! was one of the first bands I looked up! There's only, what, six tracks on each record? In eMusic terms, that's a pretty solid deal. It'll barely dent your monthly track allowance.

Yeah. Truthfully, it won't even do that; I'm sitting on roughly 1500 extra downloads (down from 2000 originally), via these eMusic Circuit City cards (65 downloads per $5 card).

So Neu 75 translates to roughly $.50... yeah, I'd say buy it.

Just another hero

is that even what he's saying? It's what I always here it as anyway

Just another hero

You mean me? I wasn't trying to be a jerk. Sorry if it sounded that way.

And yeah, I'll pick up both discs today.

Should also say here that the midsection of the 88 BoaDrum performance last night was audibly a mega-Neu! homage, in fact the best damn tribute to Klaus Dinger's impact imaginable, specifically thinking of how it reminded me of "Lila Engel" in its blend of slabs-of-feedback percussive chime and huge drum punch. So no, not historical documents at all, not when 88 drummers from all sorts of bands are pounding that out.

You mean me? I wasn't trying to be a jerk. Sorry if it sounded that way.

No no, he's referring to the lyric of the song "Hero" from Neu! 75.

Ahhh. Got it.

>>Should also say here that the midsection of the 88 BoaDrum performance last night was audibly a mega-Neu! homage

Yes, I had the exact same thought.

Also, I just took my own advice and downloaded the first Neu album from emusic.

The Astralwerks reissues were out of print and got hard to find, but a nice surprise this weekend, I saw they're all reissued by Gronland, same 2001 remaster.

if i recall, gronland was working on this at the time the astralwerks reissues came out. the web site was always kinda vague about where they were on that, which in a weird way seemed appropriate. keeping with the neu! "confused enough yet?" stylee. so did the gronland thing just now come about?

On my cd's it says: "2001 Grönland under exclusive lizenz to EMI Electrola GmbH - Remastered in London" (I bought them in 2001/2)

Earlier this summer I tried to upgrade my old bootleg version of the first album with the remaster, and it simply wasn't available. One used copy could be had for $34 on Amazon.

The reissue is distributed and marketed by High Wire Music via Fontana Distribution, and came out August 26th. $13.99 at Reckless, yay.

Fuck I thought I was kinda over Neu! like they were too sleek and cold, I preferred La Dusseldorf and Harmonia to this. But Hallogallo came on early and it just sounds like clouds of dust left behind. Its almost not there. It kindof overshadows everything else though....

Also Klaus Dinger singing on Lieber Honig is incredible.

Neu! 4 is NOT worth getting

Yes it is! It's a fun album! Doesn't sound much like Neu!, basically sounds like a combination of Michael Rother and (latter day) La Dusseldorf, not surprisingly. It's unfinished and a bit ragged in places but it's certainly better than anything Michael Rother managed after 1982, it's more in the vein of later Dinger efforts like "Neondian" - but, fine by me, I like that stuff. It is basically the same tune played over and over again, but it's a good tune!

where did you find a copy?

Eine kleine blog

Neu! 4 is awesome.

if anyone could point me towards it I'd be much obliged, googling neu! is no fun

....

WTF, how could Neu! possibly be D?

i salute you willem

any idea if these neu albums are going to be re-reissued on vinyl?

They discovered an implicity archetype of rock music, that was independently discovered both before, and after them. They get more credit for some reason.

if anyone could point me towards it I'd be much obliged, googling neu! is no fun

Suggest blogsearching "elanoizan" instead.

La Dusseldorf and Rother's solo stuff often sounds to like it should be the theme music from the Winter Olympics or Ski Sunday With David Vine, and "Quick Wave Machinelle" from this album is like the ultimate example of this!

waht
http://thequietus.com/articles/01209-oasis-kasabian-for-neu-tribute-album

oh neu

Cleopatra records beat Oasis to something

hopefully not a leather whip

also lol "omg Ciccone Youth". Is there a Don't Look Back planned for the Whitey Album?

LCD Soundsystem - 'Watch The Tapes'

really?

i just don't see how this is supposed to turn anyone onto the music of Neu! or any music at all

It's actively putting me off Oasis, so that's a result.

it's also a joke post, I'm guessing

Noel Gallagher added, “My current new favourite German band of all time. Proper tour bus music. Spiritual!!”

Hmmm.

But why would they deceive us???

Trying to anNEU us!

It's actively putting me off Oasis, so that's a result.

Because they were so appealing before they appeared on a Neu! tribute comp, my GOD what have they done!

For some awful moment, I thought Oasis were doing a Neu Cover for the album, now the result doesn't seems so bad after that.

If this album makes even one Kasabian & Oasis fan think "This is great, why am i listening to that pish?" then it will have done good in this world.

No-one remembers this but when Kasabian were a totally new band they were promoted completely differently to once people actually started giving a shit abt them - they were like these trippy waster guys who lived in a farmhouse in the middle of nowhere and listened to Neu! and Floyd and Boards of Canada and jammed all day. Then it became apparent that the arena chant element was much stronger/more sellable and that was how it went

Perhaps the "arena chant element" is more sellable, but I wouldn't exactly call it a strength.

Oh, but I digress...

I don't get what that album is meant to be

To my great shame, I saw Kasabian once, in Columbia, Missouri. My boss at work quasi-forced me to go. They actually weren't that bad or good, but what made it pathetic was that there were maybe 20-25 really bored people there at the bar, and yet Kasabian acted like arena megastars onstage.

But anyways, Neu! couldn't be more classic.

related note: there are literal arena chants on the La Dusseldorf LP.

The First La Dusseldorf album is my favourite krautrocky album ever.

The video for Viva is incredible

Exclusive: Michael Rother Reveals Plans to Release Five-LP Neu! Box Set, Aims to Form Super-group with John Frustiante, Flea, Benjamin Curtis and Josh Klinghoffer
9/4/2009 By Brock Thiessen

Despite a series of reissues, scoring a Neu! album on vinyl is no easy task. Almost as quickly as they were released, each album by the Krautrock legends has gone out of print on LP, even those re-released in 2001, forcing fans to search far and wide for a copy, and to pay a pretty penny once they find one. However, this will soon change when Neu! release an upcoming five-LP box set that will collect all of the band’s previously released material and several unheard recordings.

In a recent interview, the group’s sole surviving member Michael Rother broke the news of the box set. “The idea is to release the vinyl box set by the end of this year, but that would mean I can’t sleep tonight and for the rest of the year,” Rother told Exclaim! “I will do my best, though. I’m serious about that... The idea is to collect all of Neu!’s music, all of the recordings, and to make that available legally for fans. Also, we want to collect texts that have been written about Neu!, photos that haven’t been shown of Neu!, to show the bandwidth of Neu!”

Rother went on to explain that the box would feature five LPs, the first three being the albums Neu!, Neu! 2 and Neu! 75. However, the final two records will be the main draw for hardcore followers, who will finally see a proper, legal release of the band’s infamous Neu! 4 (or Neu! 86, as Rother prefers to call it) and ’72 Live! In Dusseldorf, both of which will be remastered, revamped and include new, previously unheard tracks.

Neu! 4 and ’72 Live! were previously released by Rother’s late musical partner Klaus Dinger, who put out the records in the late ’90s though Japanese label Captain Trip before passing away in 2008. However, neither came with Rother’s seal of approval.

“That was a very sad story,” Rother says of Neu! 4’s illegitimate release. “(Klaus) sent me a congratulatory fax in late 1995 saying, “Congratulations, Neu! 4 will be out in Japan tomorrow.” That was very funny because when we stopped working on that project in ’86, we sealed the tapes and agreed to meet again at a later time. But, well, things got worse with Klaus.

“Once on his website, he wrote he was proud of taking more than 1,000 LCD trips and definitely some other substances. That put him apart from most people. He was in a different orbit. I must not forget of course to point out that Klaus was a great artist and drummer and collaborator, but he was a very, very difficult person and he grew more difficult over the years, and that culminated in the early ’90s.”

Rother says he plans to make edits of ’72 Live! and to substantially add to and change up Neu! 4. “Klaus added some material that I would have not used,” he explains. “The commercial trash for instance, it’s not so interesting anymore. It wasn’t so interesting in the ’80s. And there are some recordings I discovered in my archives that I actually had forgotten, recordings we did in the first studio that we didn’t continue working on. So I’m reflecting on many ideas, making changes and listening to that material... I’m also quite optimistic that what I find will find more recognition than the release Klaus did in the ’90s with some of that [added] material.”

Along with the five LPs, the box set will include a huge vinyl-sized booklet, Rother says, featuring various essay on Neu!, as well as several previously unseen photographs from throughout the group’s career. Among those photos, Rother revealed that several will be by Anton Corbijn, the famed photographer who has shot everyone from Tom Waits to U2, Nick Cave and Miles Davis, and directed the Joy Division biopic Control.

“Anton Corbijn did a photo session with Neu! in 2000. Unfortunately, at the time Klaus said no, and we couldn’t release the photos. He didn’t like them,” Rother says. “At the time, Klaus was still quite unhappy and he looked very fierce in some of the photos. I’m just guessing that he was astonished when he saw the photos and that’s why he didn’t want others to see them. They are interesting photos. One is actually even quite funny, I can tell you, because it was a spontaneous situation where we tried to shake hands but the hands didn’t meet. I’m smiling at this and Klaus is looking at the camera with a sly look, and it is funny in a way.”

Also, if you prefer more digital musical formats, Rother says the new version of Neu! 4 will likely be released as a single CD and that even more previously unreleased Neu! material may come exclusively as downloads.

Meanwhile, Rother hopes to begin touring again next year and says that several big-name players will likely join him on the road.

“I’ve already contacted some of my musical friends, especially from the States,” he says. “You may know I’ve been working with John Frustiante [Red Chili Peppers’ guitarist], Benjamin Curtis [School of Seven Bells] and Josh Klinghoffer [Beck, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Gnarls Barkley] in recent years. My idea is to do this straight-forward Neu! idea, with strong beats, strong forward movement, crashing guitars and walls of sound on stage. Of course, we’d be doing my version of Neu!, some of the Harmonia tracks that I composed or contributed to in the ’70s and some of my solo stuff.

“That is something that would really make me get quite excited. And my friends — Flea would also love to be part of that project — they are all just waiting to hear about the ideas. Doing it really depends on finding a really good festival or doing a good several concerts. It will largely depend on my friends being available.”

When asked if he would record with this super-group, Rother replies, “Why not? I mean, it would be a unique opportunity to bring those people together and imagining the power of those three guitars is enough to make me jump around.”

As previously reported, Harmonia — the mid-’70s outfit helmed by Rother and Cluster’s Hans-Joachim Roedelius and Dieter Moebius — will release their long-lost album with Brian Eno, Tracks and Traces, on October 6 in North American through Grönland Records/High Wire Music.

Stayed tuned for our complete interview with Michael Rother at Exclaim.ca.

Weird.

worst super group ever

would absolutely like to hear Rothers take on Neu! 4 though

Frusciante's good (Flea, well...) but this box set I'm all about.

I refuse to listen to anything Frusciante's done simply cuz he was in the RHCP which probably isn't fair, but really so what.

His solo stuff is actually pretty cool! And this is coming from someone that downright despises the Chili Peppers.

Once on his website, he wrote he was proud of taking more than 1,000 LCD trips

http://www.pctechguide.com/images/57LCD.gif

helluva drug

His solo albums are totally different. Not that ive heard them much. Who wouldve thought him rejoining RHCP would coincide with their worst ever material though, so i dont blame anyone for wanting to avoid.

http://www.geocities.com/Omegaman_UK/lcd/LCD5.gif

That live '72 CD goes on way too long, but it does have moments so I would certainly check out the edit. And while I felt burned buying Neu! 4 for $26 in 1994 and getting that mess, once iTunes came along, the 3 or 4 good tracks started coming through

I saw Rother / Frusciante / Klinghoffer in concert in 2005 playing stuff from Rother's solo albums and they nailed it, I was sad they didn't do a live album, this is great news.

more worried about flea's inclusion than frusciante

"will release their long-lost album with Brian Eno, Tracks and Traces"

How can this album be long-lost? It was released on CD like a decade ago!

i thought it was supposed to be a follow-up to tracks and traces like additional material from those sessions

wiki: "In September 2009 an extended version of Tracks and Traces will be released by Gronland. The new album features three additional tracks from the Harmonia & Eno ´76 collaboration."

So three additional long-lost tracks from a album of unreleased sketches. Sounds wonderful.

frusciante's great

Didn't the RHCP put a Harmonia track on a compilation album of influences?

The first few Neu albums aren't exactly hard to get find the last 5 years. I have the first three just picking them up from stores.

This is all very "He's dead, so now I can do what I like"...

Which may well be better than what was there before, first three albums excepted.

(willing to be proved wrong tho)

I'm having difficulty imagining the Venn Diagram intersection between RHCP and School of Seven Bells, tbh.

The first few Neu albums aren't exactly hard to get find the last 5 years. I have the first three just picking them up from stores.

This is all very "He's dead, so now I can do what I like"...

Yeah, I find this a bit awkward. Re-recording Neu 4, doing some kind of Neu tribute tour, etc.

Anyway, Frusciante is awesome - some people need to get past the whole RHCP thing.

I just dug out "Live 72", for the hell of it.

Track one is actually sounding quite nice (four mins in, out of 32), but it's still a 'cassette recording of a practice/jam session' or something like it.

Maybe if they re-recorded new versions of tracks, rather than patch up some bad recordings, this could be something...

As I said yesterday, I have an open mind about it, but still suspect this will not be ...)

i saw those first 3 neu albums on vinyl in hmv just the other day

A quick skip on ebay shows loads of copies of "original" UA pressings for buyitnow prices (i.e. very good looking fakes), so theres a market for LP versions I guess.

The EMI reissues are possibly collectable, the true original UA issues are probably not due to all the good fakes.

xpost well there you go.

Bought Brain pressings a couple of years ago, took me a few months. Vinyl's good on all of them, covers VG I'd say.
Love (the mp3's of) Neu!4 in their own quirky way (not La Düsseldorf quirky but still highly entertaining) and am interested as to what Rother will make of that release.
I can relate to the doubts expressed in this thread ("He's dead, so now I can do what I like"...) but I also think that because of Dinger's attitude a lot of the stuff that could have been released hasn't. I just hope Rother doesn't add too many "tasteful accents" to the original material... As to the tour - I don't know what to expect from that at all but I'm definitely going if I get a chance.

To be honest, if he goes out as "The Neu! Experience" and the band are tied down strongly to the material, it could be seriously awesome.

As MES once sang, "don't start improvising for fucks sake!"

Either way it sounds like utter bollocks to me. Anyway, Rother is full of it, "Neu 4" is great, OK so a few tracks are superfluous, but it's obvious which tracks those are and if you ignore them and concentrate on the core tracks it's much better than anything Rother was capable of producing on his own in 1986 - I shudder to think how it might have turned out if he'd had his way with it. Viva Klaus!

They are interesting photos. One is actually even quite funny, I can tell you, because it was a spontaneous situation where we tried to shake hands but the hands didn’t meet. I’m smiling at this and Klaus is looking at the camera with a sly look, and it is funny in a way.”

I really, really want to see this.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3509/3831459404_be09fe3089.jpg
If it's anything like this one...

http://www.neu2010.com

Enormous vinyl box set about to drop. Includes, for the first time, Neu! '86.

Some talk (ppl expressing their doubts about rother's possible "reworking" of the material that makes up Neu! '86) about that 6 months ago.
Info from Rother's site, from 02/2010:

Most of all I´m thrilled about the release of the album NEU! ´86 which Klaus Dinger and I originally recorded in 1985/86, but left unfinished back then and which led to some unfortunate problems between Klaus and myself in the 90s. I now completely reworked the album from original multitrack and master tapes, and unearthed a few yet unknown tracks which are essential for a full understanding of what Klaus and I focussed on for NEU! in the mid 80s. It was my aim to present Klaus Dinger´s musical strengths and visions just as much as my own ideas. The best musical result was to be my only guideline, not the ego. All during the emotional process of reworking our album Klaus was on my mind and I contemplated what he would think about my decisions. I was very relieved and moved to hear from his heir, Miki Yui, who contributed many valuable ideas to the making of the box set, that she was pleased with the result presented with the album NEU! ´86."

So I suppose there won't be any tasteful newly recorded additions - looking forward to this, I must say.

Also, more dates for the temporary band he's put together (with Steve Shelley, Benjamin Curtis and Aaron Mullan) - performing Neu!, Harmonia and Rother tracks. Should be fun/great, nothing less!

So I suppose there won't be any tasteful newly recorded additions

I hope not, I like it as it is!

1971
Florian Schneider witnesses Michael Rother´s jam with Ralph Hütter in Kraftwerk´s Kling Klang Studio and invites Rother to join the band after Hütter´s retreat.
In the lineup Florian Schneider, Klaus Dinger and Michael Rother Kraftwerk play numerous concerts around Germany. They appear in one radio and two tv shows, i.e. the popular BEAT-CLUB. Schneider, Dinger and Rother perform “Rückstossgondoliero” (released in 2001 on the BEAT-CLUB dvd “Best of ´71”). The recording sessions for the second Kraftwerk album in the lineup Schneider/Dinger/Rother with Conny Plank as co-producer remain unsatisfactory and are terminated half-way through.

I really wish they'd stop mentioning to us how unsatisfactory those sessions were and just KICK DOWN

Super stoked for those live dates tbh.

Michael Rother is listed as appearing at the Rough Trade East "Record Store Day" celebrations. I would have thought this would lead to the total collapse of Brick Lane and some sort of Fame style jam session in the streets, but it is definitely there in the advertising. Also Laurie Anderson.

Can Michael Rother just announce the date at the South Bank Centre and get it over with....

I'm desperate to see this after seeing him cut loose with the motorik beat at the Harmonia gig...

boxset now on sale http://www.neu2010-shop.com/content/produktdetail.aspx?a=11284&s=78

4 vinyl LPs & 1 vinyl maxi-single
- Original studio albums NEU!, NEU! 2, NEU! '75 and the for the first time, an official release of NEU! '86
- NEU! '72 (previously unreleased live maxi-single 20 minutes)
- 36-page picturebook & NEU! stencil
- Free download code for all albums via www.neu2010.com
- Free NEU! t-shirt (one of three designs)

all for an eyewatering €120

The way the euro is going, that might prove to be the cheaper option..

Um... fuck yeah?

http://70.32.78.35/sonicnews/?p=810

Has anyone here bought the boxset?

and is neu '84 as bad as everyone says it is?

'86

it's a bad neu! album, but it's not a bad album, if you get me

Neu! 4 is awesome (if you like Dingervision and if you don't like Dingervision do you like Neu?) lotsa proto-chillwave and ecstatic synth dance tracx.
not sure what Rother did in new vers, I've only heard nineties issue.

box-set tracks going cheap on most of the .mp3 stores (F**k Itunes =£35)

I picked it up for £7 from 7digital.com

still working my way through the tracks.

sound a lot clearer than my Astralwerks LPs, was any remastering done?

all reviews to date have been kind of useless on the issue of what exactly Rother changed for Neu! 4. can anyone who actually cares about this band and has heard both chime in?

apologies if that sounds rude -- there have been well-written reviews but seeing as the sole appeal of this entire box set for fans who've already invested in the earlier version of 'Neu! 4' is Rother's revision, and that there were two or three tolerable tracks on the original version that could have benefited from a remix, it's just frustrating not to be finding anyone discussing the actual changes from the original Captain Trips issues

i'll give it a shot:

NEU 4
1 Nazionale 3:11
2 Crazy 3:15
3 Flying Dutchman 3:56
4 Schöne Welle (Nice Wave) 4:30
5 Wave Naturelle 5:37
6 Good Life (Random - Rough) 3:51
7 86 Commercial Trash 3:18
8 Fly Dutch II 5:06
9 Dänzing 5:08
10 Quick Wave Machinelle 3:46
11 Bush - Drum 3:10
12 La Bomba (Stop Aparthijd World-Wide!) 5:59
13 Good Life 3:42
14 Elanoizan 3:24

NEU 86
A1 Intro (Haydn Slo-Mo) 0:33
A2 Dänzing 5:05
A3 Crazy 3:16
A4 Drive (Grundfunken) 5:13
A5 La Bomba (Stop Apartheid World-Wide!) 5:30
A6 Elanoizan 2:32
B1 Wave Mother 4:53
B2 Paradise Walk 5:11
B3 Euphoria 3:59
B4 Vier 1/2 1:02
B5 Good Life 3:42
B6 November 1:43
B7 KD 1:54

Intro is Nazionale cut down to 30 seconds. Danzing and Crazy are the same just remastered. Drive (Grundfunken) is an new track and probably the best thing on it. La Bomba and Elanoizan are shortened versions from Neu 4. Wave Mother is a shortened version of Wave Naturelle. Paradise Walk is a new track. Euphoria is a pitch-correcting, slightly slower and longer version of Quick Wave Machinelle. Vier 1/2 is an edited version of Fly Dutch II. November and KD are new tracks.

good life is the same, forgot that one. worth having both but 86 is better imo

Drive (Grundfunken) is an new track and probably the best thing on it.

thank you, fellow person who actually loves this music & knows their shit as opposed to simply having an opinion

really does sound like it's an improvement overall, actually

I shouldn't be so snarky! I just really love this band. And I completely understand reviewers who are taking the stance that casually interested listeners might want to pause before investing in this thing, given how peripheral the extra two discs are. At least douglas @ pfm actually seems to have acquired the physical box before reviewing it & engaged with the concept that this is the Rother-Version (and objected to that in and of itself), it's just I can't find a single review that even engages with the fact that the Rother-Versions are considerably musically different, which really is not just esoteric fanboy information

like most people I found the fourth one massively underwhelming in the 90's as a $25 import CD, but in the age of iTunes the 2 or 3 good tracks did start to stick out

yes. my quote stands regarding such musics as always happens..."you won't like Neu! 4, it's all cheesy 80s electronic dance music". OK. Ignores Neu! 4 for many years...then remembers that I specialize in cheesy 80s electronic dance music. Actually listens to it. Thinks "this will be killer on a mix". Never records said mix.

7 quid for the neu! digital box?? that's cheaper than '86 on its own! brb

ok, Rother's version of 'Neu! 86' is actually sequenced like an album that makes sense instead of a compilation. The tracks that share the same chord sequences come in an order that makes sense and makes them seem like reprises instead of repetitions, the ambient interludes are cut down to ok segueways instead of interminable fillers, and the four new tracks make a big difference. 'Drive' is five minutes of Neu! just loosely mainlining, the dubby drum breaks in 'Paradise Walk' are interesting, and the two short stripped down remixes at the end really work as a coda, especially 'KD' which is basically Klaus' vocal take on 'La Bomba' soloed and dubbed, which is a completely affectionate way to close it in the man's absence

still no masterpiece but Rother's version actually feels like an album, it's a real improvement

wake me up when the Gunter Schickert box set comes out

Is there anywhere you can get the live '72 tracks on their own? I already bought the last round of reissues for the first three albums and really don't want to shell out for them all over again, but the live '72 tracks are "album only" on iTunes (with purchasing the whole box for $29 - which I'm not about to do). I am shelling out for the '86 though, so interested in hearing that.

the aforementioned 7digital lets you get em individually for 79p each

http://www.7digital.com/artists/neu/neu-4/

still no masterpiece but Rother's version actually feels like an album, it's a real improvement

I have no more interest in hearing this than I did in hearing that Brian Wilson's Smile thing from a few years back tbh. Are the new tracks "new", are they new recordings? Anyway, the original "Neu 4" is fine by me, I play it all the time! Just re-sequence it and ignore the obvious filler and unfinished tracks and it's about milion times better than the pedestrian shite Rother was putting out in the mid 80s (and coincidentally better than Dinger's "Blue" album)

lol dang tom, u mad? rother's like the chillest dude and dinger's version is pretty piss-poor in sound quality. the "new" tracks are new as in unreleased, no new recording was done, just editing/remastering/remixing/track shuffling.

"I worked for about 6 months alone on the recordings for the album Neu! ’86. That was one of those very unhappy stories of the ’90s, where Klaus Dinger suddenly released a version of that album—he called it Neu! 4—in Japan behind my back. That was terrible. I call it the dark decade, really, when Klaus was so difficult and just wasn’t able to communicate and to find an agreement with anyone, really. Last year, when we met with our label Grönland and Klaus Dinger’s widow, Miki Yui, she agreed to re-release the album because I proposed that I would take care of those recordings and try to create a better version. I was really very unhappy with the poor musical quality of what Klaus had released. And so I was really happy that she said okay, go ahead. It was my risk, actually, and then I invested—because she always could have blocked the release—and then I worked for six months, transferred the recordings, and discovered some recordings that I had actually forgotten about because Klaus and I had recorded those tracks and then left them untouched for the rest of the project. We concentrated on so much other material—we had tons of material in the ‘80s—so in the end, when I finished Neu! ‘86, I myself was very happy. Some lucky circumstances, there were some lucky stars I guess over my studio, and it all worked out really well. I was totally convinced. And then I presented that version of the album to Grönland and to Klaus’ widow, and everybody agreed to release it, which really made me very happy. We also did a good job working as a team, something that, to be honest, was very difficult with Klaus in later years. So Miki, who’s also a musician and a visual artist and is capable of judging the quality of art and music, and I did this big picture book for the box set and collected many photos from our archives, several archives, and several people wrote texts about Neu!. So much goodwill and effort went into that project. It really made me—proud is maybe not the right expression, but I was so utterly pleased by the result. It’s beautiful."

listening to the Rother interview on East Village Radio last week, he doesn't sound bitter about the whole thing -- just kind of in awe of how nuts Dinger could be. "He ... he was crazy, you know."

i wonder if the members of la dusseldorf and la neu had the same experience or was it just a grudge he had w/ rother

Anyone in the LDN going to this?

http://www.barbican.org.uk/music/event-detail.asp?ID=11079

I will be in town, thinking about getting tickets if there are any left...

Am in the LDN and going. Need to revise my Harmonia beforehand...

yep, Seefeel addition is great too

The Visitation are doing a Krautrock night at the Lock Tavern the night before.. if anyone going to the Barbican wants to get in the zone beforehand.

We've got one of the guys who wrote for the Krautrock book DJing and its always a fun night.

Just got Neu 86, and it's great!

Agreed. Wave Mother is an incredible song.

hey this live EP thing that came with the box set is actually great! i mean, it's lo-fi and loose, but it's pretty fucking cool.

Dud.

Thanks for your solid, rational reasoning.

Deud.

NEU! have burrowed themselves so deep into my listening that I can't even fathom a "dud" response anymore. Right about now, if a band doesn't have a little something of that relentlessness, I don't want to listen to them. (By that token, I'm totally fucking ape over that last Oneida album)

Neu! 86 has turned, unexpectedly, into an 'in-car' hit with the rest of the fam, along with their Cheryl, nDubz and crystalcastles' Cds

... just got it in FOPP for £5. I was a bit snooty about it upthread(before actually hearing it of course!) 'cuz I was worried that Rother might make it all tasteful and Rotherlike or (worse) update it in some way: thankfully he hasn't really done that much to the basic tracks: he's dropped some of the rubbish and sequenced it quite nicely (tho not perfectly, "Crazy" should obv. be the second track, as on Dinger's version, not "Dänzing"). I'm useless at spotting stuff like "improved sound quality" and "remastering", so the massive improvements mentioned above are largely lost on me. I don't know why Rother's decided to lose "Schöne Welle (Nice Wave)" and "Bush-Drum", both of which are quite nice tracks, the latter doesn't sound anything like Neu! but so what? "Paradise Walk" disconcerts me 'cuz it sounds like a rhythm preset on an old keyboard I used to have, it doesn't sound finished to me. Neither does "Drive (Grundfunken)", which everbody loves because it sounds like Neu! and proves that Rother could still whip out Neu! riffs at the drop of a (Tyrolean) hat, but is basically a jam that would never got anywhere near an album if they'd ever managed to put out the album anything other than retrospectively. Anyone up for another version with bonus tracks? <----- Joke

Yeah, I don't know why he lost those two tracks either. I guess he wanted to sort of mask the fact that most of the tracks they recorded were based on the same 4 chords and just dropped a few of them. "Bush Drum" was something different though. I dont know, no matter how you arrange the tracks, there's really not much of an album there. Dinger's version was nearly unlistenable. Rother's is better, but its much better taken track-by-track rather than listened to all at once. Definitely has a very distinct "unfinished" feel to it.

Leb Wohl <3 <3 <3

Dud. Totally boring.

Out.

dud

is it bad that all non-faust/can krautrock i listen to is for the express purpose of hypnotic background noise for reading? i find neu more droney than most drone out there

"Fur Immer" is one of the greatest songs ever, tho it is v drone-y!

Not all hypnotic background noise, in case anyone forgot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYeVvp8sdmg

i like la dusseldorf better

I can't believe I started this thread over a decade ago... Hypnotic background noise?! What about "Negativland"? Almost everything on Neu! 2? Yeah, Dan, "Hero"!!! They're immortally classic. I was visting one of my better restaurant customers yesterday, showing them a few new wines, and "Hallogallo" suddenly started burbling from the speakers... I freaked out mildly, stopping mid-sentence, being all "this is NEU!? you guys are playing NEU!"... The several-years-younger OWNER and his assistant were like, "yeah I guess... this is the internet radio we play sometimes" or something. It's so funny to think back about how giddy I was that this stuff I had only read about would finally be available, saving up some bucks (and probably selling some CDs) to get the Astralworks reissues, and just listening to them again and again. Now we can just cue it up on Spotify, cross our arms, and pass our judgments in a flash! [/grumpy old early-30s man]

Was drinking in this bar last night!

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-zq0oZXv9dw0/TnM7MfpJ3BI/AAAAAAAAAE4/lpKx1HTyDVA/s512/IMG_0018.JPG

Pretty good interview with Michael Rother in the new Wax Poetics, of all places. Summary: Couldn't really handle being friends with Klaus because he was crazy, but we really connected over the music and I'm super proud of that.

Pretty good interview with Michael Rother in the new Wax Poetics, of all places. Summary: Couldn't really handle being friends with Klaus because he was crazy, but we really connected over the music and I'm super proud of that.

I don't ever remember any mention of Neu! in early Jesus & Mary Chain pieces (there was a lot of talk from journalists about the Velvets, Stooges, Suicide, Ramones etc), but Neu 2 is all over some of their early stuff. I guess the journalists just hadn't heard the records in '84, '85?

They were 'relating' them to the VU, at which point they decided "job done".

It wasn't until the J&MC covered "Mushroom" that the possibility of "other influences" were considered.

Probably more likely that journalists had heard Neu! than JAMC, it's possible JAMC had but they were 110% Velvets anyway

Anyway, I don't hear the influence!

When was Ciccone Youth? That was one of the first time I heard of Neu! being namechecked... in the 80s that is. And then Stereolab came along and it was obvious they'd been "rediscovered" big time.

Well, I saw SonicYouth supporting the J&MC at the Hammersmith Palais back when, and Ciccone Youth was after that.

Obviously JAMC had turned them on to Neu! when they were all hanging around in the dressing room after the gig

Definitely a Neu! influence on Bobby Gillespie as you can hear if you listen to his motorik bongo beats from that one show he played sitting in with Damo Suzuki and Captain Beefheart.

Also he says this:

"Neu! is, in my opinion, one of the more towering musical achievements in recent history, and we are all living in the individual shadows of these two men. Speed and stillness, simplicity and cacophony, gentleness and aggression, mania and focus, are all juxtapositions that have been given a voice, and have learned to coexist under the equally as contradictory guidance of Michael and Klaus."

Nah, I'm sure they were all trying to get tales out of Jayne Casey... (xpost, Pink Military were 2nd support)

Spitzenqualität could be a mid-80s JAMC b-side

Also he says this:

"See that fuckin' Neu!, fuckin' ripped me aff so they did. They came tae see the fuckin' Mary Chain, ah think it wis at Janie's in Gourock... aye the Boey Hairdressers wur supportin' us, pile o' shite they wur till ah fuckin' lent Norman some Big Star records and said, "Here ye go, son, rip that moab aff and ye'll be laughin'"... anywey, where wis ah? Oh aye, there ah um fuckin' knockin' back the shandies wi' Stephen Pastel and that fuckin' Klaus Dinger cunt comes up tae me 'n is aw like "Oh, herr Bobby, you are the best drummer I hef ever seen, Mo Tucker voz right about you!" and ah'm like, "Aye aye, pal, heard it. Who let this pair o' losers in?". And the other yin, he wis oo'er at fuckin' Wullie Reid bendin' his fuckin' earhole aboot fuckin' guitar strings or sumthin'. Next thing ye know, the cunts huv pit oot their fuckin' first album 'n it's goat the fuckin' Mary Chain aw oo'er it!"

^ much more believable than his actual quote, when will these so-called newspapers print the truth?

Pretty good interview with Michael Rother in the new Wax Poetics, of all places. Summary: Couldn't really handle being friends with Klaus because he was crazy, but we really connected over the music and I'm super proud of that.

I know that Klaus was really the "genius" of the group but I feel like Michael should have had the final word on what was actually released

i have read this thread several times over the years, but never dived in until today.
just found neu! and neu!2 in fopp in the £2 exchange bins in very good condition.
listened to neu! and starting neu!2 now.
i already know that these going to be top of the playlist for a very long time to come.
very chuffed.

Neu 75 even better!

as of today, i will be tracking that one down

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHUwkYkn_kA

Is there anything else like side 2 of Neu '75? Proto-punk classic.

Not by Neu! La Dusseldorf carries on equally awesome but never as raw.

If you're John Lydon you'd say "Nadir's Big Chance" by Pater Hammill.

Thanks Dan, I'll check them both out.

I totally love the La Dusseldorf albums, but I admit I once played them through my Arp 2600's preamp so I could distort it a little bit!

"Opa-Loka" by Hawkwind has a nice punk-kraut vibe.

where have this band been all my life.

just picked up neu! 75 from hmv in bristol as the counter guy said : 'excellent album - now go get la dusseldorf album'

i genuinely feel as if i have struck audio gold as this stuff ticks so many of my boxes.

oh, and for an update on this type of groove, i reckon steve webster from the band fort lauderdale in his higamos hogamos guise gets pretty close to the source :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyQez0TwDvA

must give a shout out for michael rother's "sterntaler" & "flammende herzen" beautiful plangent gtr / xylophone / synth melodies with jaki l on the tic-toc rhythms. thankfully picked em up at the local for 1.50€ a pop whoop!

Rother is divisive round here- see the krautrock listening club thread from here onwards. I think Rother's stuff is great, personally, but I can understand why people like the edge Dinger brought to things with Neu!

right on, if you enjoyed Neu! a lot, the first two La Dusseldorf albums are the way to go.

suspect i wont be able to just nip into fopp and pick them up ..

I think the La Dusseldorf albums are fairly commonly available, Rother solo probably not. I got the former from eMusic not so long ago...

Don't sleep on Harmonia - far better than Rother solo.

Oh yeah - those two albums are far better than anything I've heard from Rother solo.

how great is that first La Dusseldorf album? I feel like I really hadn't paid it enough attention until now. It's freakin' gorgeous.

i listen to the first 2 la dusseldorf records way more than neu!

side 1 inner label is a work of art!

http://ripyourvinyl.com/wp-content/plugins/rss-poster/cache/59ad1_001cbbbc_medium.jpeg

I listen to Neu! 75 way more than pretty much anything, but yeah those first two are really something. You could make a really nice Frankenstien's monster out of Neondian and Blue as well.

1st album on Decca!!!!!!! Is that a US copy? I've had two copies, one on Radar (UK) and one on Teldec (German).

Radar copy looks like a reissue:

http://www.discogs.com/La-D%C3%BCsseldorf-La-D%C3%BCsseldorf/master/25062

Retagging track 2 of my mp3s with that Decca jpg

(xp) Yeah, looks like it, I didn't know that album had been released in the UK before it was on Radar... and certainly not on Decca! My copy is on Teldec and is def. from 1976, not Nova as that discogs. page suggests.

http://i.imgur.com/GZwsZ.jpg

My eyes!

Klaus Dinger or Kip Winger?

so, like, the moment halfway through Negativland where the drums drop out and the wind-tunnel noise modifies into a descending four-chord pattern before the drums return - Sonic Youth based their entire career on that moment, right?

it's a fucking amazing moment to be fair

Anyone pick up this yet? http://klausdinger.com/download/Japandorf_Press-release_EN.pdf

http://youtu.be/Lic9-aMsFB8

Weiransee has been looping through mind all day. Hot, still summer requires little else

Did they do anything after Neu 75 that is worth checking out?

Dinger's work as La Düsseldorf is great.

xp search: the pre-Neu! recording they did when they were in Kraftwerk (usu titled "Radio Bremen" or "K4" or some combination thereof), the two Harmonia albums, and the 7" that Rother put out w/ Steve Shelley and some other guy as Hallogallo 2010 which incl this magnificent track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHEwwge7NR0

I like Michael Rother's post-Neu! 70s solo records (Sterntaler is a stand-out) though I know not everyone on ILM would agree.

I'll second Neil's recommendation of Rother's solo LP's, great stuff. Personally Katzenmusik is my favourite (great drums from Jaki Liebezeit on that one).

I'm a huge La Dusseldorf fan and consider some of their output to be as good as anything from the time. The first two are justifiably cult classics but the third one 'Individuellos' is an adorable album.

For the more adventurous the La! Neu? releases have some great stuff on them. The 2 CD long live take on ‘Cha Cha 2000’ is a beast.

if you like La Dusseldorf its also worth checking out Thomas Dinger's only solo album, "Fur Mich" from 1982
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i71C5Uzjp40

um I meant Weissensee. No idea where Weiransee came from

I wrote an article about Neu! and Dinger here:
http://listology.com/jamool/story/neu-plus-la-dusseldorf-and-beyond

Long story short - for Dinger, the first two La Dusseldorf albums are best. Third isn't so hot but the albums that were intended to be the fourth and fifth ones (Neondian and Blue) are both pretty good, especially the latter. Skip most of the La! Neu? stuff unless you want to hear badly recorded improv and a zillion takes on "Cha Cha 2000". The recent reboot of La-D (and unfortunately, the last project he ever made) is Japandorf which is surprisingly strong. Not as good as the best La-D stuff but it mostly stays on the right track and is a lot of fun. Thomas Dinger's album is also worth checking out - lots of repetition but it's actually quite unique.

As for Rother, the two Harmonia albums are great (especially Deluxe) but I never dug his solo career outside the first one.

Third isn't so hot

Dunno, I like it well enough. "Menschen/Individuellos" has a sort of ABBA vibe to it. "Tintarella Di" is sleighbells in the snow music. "Dampfriemen" is a bunch of red faced men in a Bavarian bierkeller smashing steins of foamy ale together. And so on.

Which one is "bunch of backpacking tourists trying to hit a nail into a block of wood with the thin end of the hammer" ?

I've always felt that Individuellos works better in pieces than as a whole; it's probably his loosest and most saccharine album if you're into that. I just never got the urge to relisten to it.

nah first side of Individuellos is killer and works really well as once piece imo

Which one is "bunch of backpacking tourists trying to hit a nail into a block of wood with the thin end of the hammer" ?

I've got "Kommunion/Intensitat", in fact it's the only Stockhausen on vinyl I've managed to buy in five years in London. On "Intensitat" (I think), Stockhausen hammers different lengths of nails into a plank of wood for 20 minutes - doesn't sound all that great to be frank!

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Did they do anything after Neu 75 that is worth checking out?
Neu! 86 has some great moments, especially Grundfunken.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGEZYr8BfDE

I've only just gotten into Neu! but I prefer the more song-based material like "Hallogallo". Anyone put together a compilation of just those sorts of tracks?

Song based?

you mean stuff with rhythm, as opposed to the more avant-garde things on the debut? if it helps there really isn't much of that outside of the first album. Neu! 75 may be what you're looking for.

There are three sequel tracks to "Hallogallo" on Neu! 2. Neuschnee, Super and Fur Immer. Neu 75 is more rinky-dink on the first half and has vocals on the second half and it's also worth your time.

As for Rother, the two Harmonia albums are great (especially Deluxe) but I never dug his solo career outside the first one.

Madness! Flammende Herzen, Katzenmusik and Sterntaler are all three of them abso essential.

Some good discussion on Rother c or d? here:

KRAUTROCK Listening Klub! - New Albums Every Wednesday

is that Hallogallo 2010 seven inch the only studio stuff from that project? i thought there might be a whole album forthcoming -- they sounded pretty fucking great in the live shows I heard.

I don't remember much about the album but this is one of my favorite covers -

http://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_250/MI0002/038/MI0002038579.jpg?partner=allrovi.com

and seconding the japandorf recommendation. much better than I expected.

that annoying gap about 1:13 into Sonderangebot, is that meant to be there? is it on the originals or did it creep in with the remasters?

according to Dinger, yes. he was quite pissed when the bootleggers "fixed" the error

He liked annoying listeners did Klaus

having a real 'neu! 75 is the greatest album ever' time lately

75 fur immer

Hm, something's up

50 years ago, in March 1972, I walked through Düsseldorf ´s "Altstadt" and saw that the cover of our first NEU! album was displayed in the windows of several records shops. Please stay tuned for infos on the celebrations and special concerts planned for this year... pic.twitter.com/gkqEUMFbGF

— Michael Rother (@_MichaelRother_) March 2, 2022

!

Well it was rumored and here it is, a Neu! box set:

https://www.groenland.com/product/neui-50/

lol love the stencil
want the 7" but the postage price is a joke

not sure what the point of this is, all 4 albums are very available & I can't imagine there's any unreleased stuff out there anymore. like with Faust you at least had a bunch of unearthed stuff + the fact that at least one of those albums (So Far) was very hard to get on vinyl in a non-4MWB edition

What, you don't like stencils?

apparently Iggy has been playing Hero from '75 on his recent tour

one of the remixes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuF1wauj9h0

ordered me this as a lil bday present :)

Selling points in press release!

Featuring Reworks by The National, Idles, Man Man, Mogwai, Guerilla Toss & More

NEU! Picture Disc and Cassette Available June 17th

only just found out iggy pop has been playing hero on tour and rother joined him in hamburg.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FspF8LRRXWs

baller move imo

NEU! featured with cover story in the new issue of The Wire. Mike Barnes writes in 'The Unbroken Circle' about the history of NEU! and cites from an interview I recently did with him on behalf of the 50th anniversary of the first NEU! album. Get it here: https://t.co/4UVNx9ZBhH pic.twitter.com/r0ZrVSest8

— Michael Rother (@_MichaelRother_) August 10, 2022

so, is the box worth it? sounding any different than the previous releases?

Haven't noticed difference in sounds but it's a beauty for the collection

Magic Rother and friends gig tonight, they hit the NEU! / Harmonia / solo classics hard, pretty heavy in places too. Vittoria added vocals to E-Musik which surprised me but worked well. Crowd loved it all.

ach, Negativland, I meant

that sounds awesome, hope someone recorded it

was meant to see them earlier this month but got ill :(

this is great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ksmzvVT6ko

Neu! 2 asks one of the great "what ifs" in Krautrock - what would they have come up with if they had the time and budget to complete it? The first side actually sounds more ahead of its time than the first album does. I don't know if anyone was thinking about music the way they were back then. its a solid decade ahead of its time. ahead of punk too which "Lilac Angel" definitely is. oh well guess we'll never know

Separately, my Michael Rother tickets for a couple of weeks from now are in hand. That'll be something for sure.

lucky you! I wanna go to the Chicago show but it's sold out and nothing appears to be available online :/

ah i wish i'd known he was here last year, he'd be great to see

Come to Los Angeles! Tickets are (unbelievably) still available!

Wow, I had no idea about this, and now that I do, I don't know what to make of it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_GWRP5R6iE

GibbitawayNEU!

lol

This is why I'm glad I caught this year's tour instead!

I can’t tell if I’m a Dinger or a Rother

I hardly know her ...

Dream of Düsseldorrrnication (lol at 0wen xp)

I texted “I hardly Neu her!” to seven friends and the best response I got was “this is why I will never listen to your podcast (if you ever have a podcast)”

“LOLogallo” was the second best response

who wants to see my Wabussi

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