i received 20 track ballots, 17 album ballots, and 12 remix ballots
thermo thinwall very kindly offered to do images (it was apparently a very longstanding offer for the nine inch nails poll) for the tracks rollout, saving me a ton of work, so i'm immensely grateful for that
i'm going to start with the top 15 remixes soon
thanks to everyone who participated!
― ufo, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 21:24 (three weeks ago) link
I didn’t have my stuff together enough to put together a ballot for this in time. Looking forward to the rollout, though!
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 21:25 (three weeks ago) link
15. Eraser (Denial; Realization)Released on Further Down The Spiral, 1995"Eraser" remixed by John Balance, Peter Christophersen and Drew McDowell of Coil with Danny Hyde28 points, 3 votersRecording
15. David Bowie - The Hearts Filthy Lesson (Trent Reznor Alternative Mix)Released on "The Hearts Filthy Lesson" single, 1995David Bowie's "The Hearts Filthy Lesson" remixed by Trent Reznor28 points, 2 voters, 1 #1 voteRecording
15. David Bowie - I Can't Give Everything Away (Farewell Mix)Released 2017David Bowie's "I Can't Give Everything Away" remixed by Trent Reznor28 points, 2 voters, 1 #1 VoteRecording
15. Piggy (Nothing Can Stop Me Now)Released on Further Down The Spiral, 1995"Piggy" remixed by Rick Rubin with Dave Navarro and Kim Bullard28 points, 2 votersRecording
― ufo, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 21:38 (three weeks ago) link
So exciting! I didn’t have time to rank remixes but I am super curious to see what wins
― Tim F, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 21:55 (three weeks ago) link
13. Self Destruction, FinalReleased on Further Down The Spiral, 1995"Mr. Self Destruct" remixed by J. G. Thirwell30 points, 2 voters, 1 #1 votesRecording
13. All The Pigs, All Lined UpReleased on "March Of The Pigs" single, 1994"March Of The Pigs" remixed by Nine Inch Nails32 points, 2 votersRecording
― ufo, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 22:02 (three weeks ago) link
11. Only (Richard X Mix)Released on "Only" single, 2005"Only" remixed by Richard X32 points, 3 votersRecording
11. Heresy (Version)Released on Further Down The Spiral international edition, 1995"Heresy" remixed by Charlie Clouser32 points, 2 votersRecording
― ufo, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 22:10 (three weeks ago) link
10. The Downward Spiral (The Bottom)Released on Further Down The Spiral, 1995"The Downward Spiral" remixed by John Balance, Peter Christophersen and Drew McDowell of Coil with Danny Hyde36 points, 3 votersRecording
― ufo, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 22:26 (three weeks ago) link
9. Find My Way (Oneohtrix Point Never Remix)Released on Hesitation Marks deluxe edition, 2013"Find My Way" remixed by Oneohtrix Point Never38 points, 4 votersRecording
― ufo, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 22:36 (three weeks ago) link
I’m guessing the “Closer” remixes are further up, but this is a great start!
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 22:40 (three weeks ago) link
I was vaguely hoping the title of this thread would be “I wanna rank you like an ILM poll”.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 22:45 (three weeks ago) link
8. Gave Up (Remix)Released on Fixed, 1992"Gave Up" remixed by Coil with Danny Hyde40 points, 3 voters, 1 #1 voteRecording
― ufo, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 22:47 (three weeks ago) link
lol that's too clever for me to come up with first thing in the morning
7. The Art of Self Destruction, Part OneReleased on Further Down The Spiral, 1995"Mr. Self Destruct" remixed by Nine Inch Nails (Chris Vrenna, Robin Finck, Danny Lohner, Charlie Clouser, Trent Reznor) with Sean Beavan & Brian Pollack42 points, 3 voters, 1 #1 voteRecording
― ufo, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 23:01 (three weeks ago) link
6. Ruiner (Version)Released on Further Down The Spiral international edition, 1995"Ruiner" remixed by Charlie Clouser46 points, 3 voters, 1 #1 voteRecording
― ufo, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 23:10 (three weeks ago) link
bangerrrrrr
― ivy., Tuesday, 23 April 2024 23:25 (three weeks ago) link
5. David Bowie - I'm Afraid of Americans (Nine Inch Nails V1 Mix)Released on "I'm Afraid of Americans" single, 1997David Bowie's "I'm Afraid of Americans" remixed by Nine Inch Nails48 points, 3 votersRecording
― ufo, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 23:40 (three weeks ago) link
I love the versions of "Heresy" and "Ruiner" from the international edition of FDTS (which, being in Australia, was the version I bought aged 13 or 14).
In their combination of layering and populism they feel beamed in from an alternate world where industrial dance-pop became a big thing, Ruby's "Tiny Meat" was number one on the charts for five weeks, etc.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 23:46 (three weeks ago) link
4. At the Heart of It AllReleased on Further Down The Spiral, 1995Created by Aphex Twin54 points, 4 votersRecording
― ufo, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 23:51 (three weeks ago) link
3. The Hand That Feeds (DFA Mix)Released on "The Hand That Feeds" single, 2005"The Hand That Feeds" remixed by The DFA64 points, 5 votersRecording
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 00:01 (three weeks ago) link
"At The Heart of it All" was my first time hearing Aphex Twin, and I remember thinking "I've never heard anything like this".
I went out and bought "I Care Because You Do" pretty much straightaway afterwards, and I remember liking it a lot but also being vaguely disappointed that it lacked the elegiac seriousness of "At The Heart of it All" - that combination of clanking mid-90s sound design with the solemnity of the first two Aphex Twin albums feels like a vibe RDJ rarely grappled with.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 00:21 (three weeks ago) link
2. Closer to GodReleased on "Closer to God" single, 1994"Closer" remixed by Trent Reznor, Sean Beavan and Brian Pollack68 points, 4 voters, 1 #1 voteRecording
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 00:41 (three weeks ago) link
I enjoy both "All The Pigs Lined Up" and "Closer To God" a lot but, they also really underline the wisdom of Trent's decision-making re the versions of those songs that made it into the album - especially the decision to record "March of the Pigs" in 7/8 rather than 4/4.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 00:50 (three weeks ago) link
it's crazy when you listen to all those versions of Closer, how much is actually packed into that song. it's true of the whole album, which at the time was a marvel of layers and sound engineering; but Closer is especially loaded with what i can only describe as really cool sounding shit.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 01:32 (three weeks ago) link
"At The Heart of it All" was my first time hearing Aphex Twin, and I remember thinking "I've never heard anything like this".I went out and bought "I Care Because You Do" pretty much straightaway afterwards
i literally did the exact same thing!!! except in my case i really dug a lot of what i heard on ICBYD and was an instant fan.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 01:34 (three weeks ago) link
"At The Heart of it All" is what got me into Aphex Twin too. I didn't vote for it, would have felt weird as I don't consider it a nine inch nails track. I'd probably vote for it in an Aphex Twin poll though.
― silverfish, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 01:52 (three weeks ago) link
Has there never been one?
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 02:00 (three weeks ago) link
i got distracted by work, sorry
1. In This Twilight (fennesz)Released on Y34RZ3R0R3M1X3D, 2007"In This Twilight" remixed by Fennesz92 points, 6 voters, 2 #1 votesRecording
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 02:08 (three weeks ago) link
1. In This Twilight (fennesz) - 92 points, 6 voters, 2 #1 votes2. Closer to God - 68 points, 4 voters, 1 #1 vote3. The Hand That Feeds (DFA Mix) - 64 points, 5 voters4. At the Heart of It All - 54 points, 4 voters5. David Bowie - I'm Afraid of Americans (Nine Inch Nails V1 Mix) - 48 points, 3 voters6. Ruiner (Version) - 46 points, 3 voters, 1 #1 vote7. The Art of Self Destruction, Part One - 42 points, 3 voters, 1 #1 vote8. Gave Up (Remix) - 40 points, 3 voters, 1 #1 vote9. Find My Way (Oneohtrix Point Never Remix) - 38 points, 4 voters10. The Downward Spiral (The Bottom) - 36 points, 3 voters11. Heresy (Version) - 32 points, 2 voters11. Only (Richard X Mix) - 32 points, 3 voters13. Self Destruction, Final - 30 points, 2 voters, 1 #1 vote13. All The Pigs, All Lined Up - 30 points, 2 voters15. Eraser (Denial; Realization) - 28 points, 3 voters15. David Bowie - The Hearts Filthy Lesson (Trent Reznor Alternative Mix) - 28 points, 2 voters, 1 #1 vote15. Piggy (Nothing Can Stop Me Now) - 28 points, 2 voters15. David Bowie - I Can't Give Everything Away (Farewell Mix) - 28 points, 2 voters, 1 #1 vote19. The Beauty of Being Numb - 24 points, 3 voters20. Closer (Further Away) - 20 points, 1 voter, 1 #1 vote20. Capital G (Paul Epworth Phones 666 Revolutions Mix) - 20 points, 1 voter, 1 #1 vote20. Me, I'm Not (Olof Dreijer) - 20 points, 1 voter, 1 #1 vote20. Closer (Precursor) - 20 points, 4 voters20. Slipping Away - 20 points, 3 voters25. The Hand That Feeds (Photek Straight Mix) - 18 points, 1 voter25. Hurt (Quiet) - 18 points, 1 voter25. The Perfect Drug (Spacetime Continuum) - 16 points, 1 voter25. Happiness In Slavery (Fixed) - 16 points, 2 voters25. The Great Destroyer (modwheelmood) - 16 points, 1 voter25. The Beginning of the End (Ladytron) - 16 points, 2 voters31. Another Version of the Truth (Kronos and Enrique Gonzales Muller) - 14 points, 1 voter31. Erased, Over, Out - 14 points, 2 voters31. Self Destruction, Part Two - 14 points, 1 voter34. Every Day Is Exactly The Same (Sam Fog vs. Carlos D Mix) - 12 points, 1 voter34. The Perfect Drug (Nine Inch Nails) - 12 points, 1 voter36. Eraser (Polite) - 10 points, 1 voter37. The Day the World Went Away (Porter Ricks Mix) - 8 points, 1 voter38. Gunshots by Computer (Saul Williams) - 6 points, 1 voter38. Sin (Dub) - 6 points, 1 voter40. Underneath The Skin - 4 points, 1 voter40. Heresy (Blind) - 4 points, 1 voter40. Where is Everybody? (Remix) - 4 points, 1 voter40. Neil Ciceriega - Rollercloser - 4 points, 1 voter40. Copy of A (Simian Mobile Disco Remix) - 4 points, 1 voter45. Curve - Missing Link (Nine Inch Nails Screaming Bird Mix) - 2 points, 1 voter45. While I'm Still Here (Breyer P-Orridge 'Howler' Remix) - 2 points, 1 voter
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 02:21 (three weeks ago) link
i literally did the exact same thing!!! except in my case i really dug a lot of what i heard on ICBYD and was an instant fan.― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, April 24, 2024 1:34 AM (fifty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, April 24, 2024 1:34 AM (fifty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Oh yeah, me too - it's more that I had to adjust my expectations a bit.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 02:28 (three weeks ago) link
Is this only going to roll out at nighttime BST hours? Would be nice to participate a bit in real time but no worries if work/life prevents that.
8. Gave Up (Remix)
My #1, maybe my first encounter with vocals cut up like that, still something I deeply love.
I threw aphex a point or two, yeah maybe it's not really a nin track but it does sound quite a bit like the steam engine in 'something i can never have', and it is great.
― ledge, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 08:00 (three weeks ago) link
i'm going to do some of the rollout at night my time which should suit europeans better
i'll probably start albums soon
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 09:51 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/H1aYQ4o.jpeg13. Year ZeroHalo 24, released 200752 points, 6 voters
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 11:44 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/y2GhI8P.jpeg12. Not the Actual EventsHalo 29, released 201656 points, 7 voters
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 11:55 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/saCDXPd.jpeg11. FixedHalo 6, released 199258 points, 5 voters, 2 #1 votes
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 12:10 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/uXUhUh4.jpeg10. Add ViolenceHalo 31, released 201772 points, 7 voters
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 12:25 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/i2n2Vdi.jpeg9. Bad WitchHalo 32, released 20186 points, 8 voters
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 12:38 (three weeks ago) link
bad witch is pretty great the whole way through, my main issue with it is i want more of it
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 12:41 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/tzERRnT.jpeg8. StillHalo 17 CD2, released 200292 points, 8 voters
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 13:00 (three weeks ago) link
not that i have anything against it, but genuinely surprised someone had fixed at #1!
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 13:11 (three weeks ago) link
it was me, and one other person who outed themselves in the voting thread
― ivy., Wednesday, 24 April 2024 13:17 (three weeks ago) link
I didn't know "still" existed. Listening right now for the first time.
― silverfish, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 13:22 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/o2S61vF.jpeg7. With TeethHalo 19, released 200596 points, 12 voters
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 13:24 (three weeks ago) link
oh whoops bad witch had 76 points
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 13:31 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/si2pYZB.jpeg6. Further Down the SpiralHalo 10, released 199598 points, 9 voters, 2 #1 votes
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 13:35 (three weeks ago) link
i remember being let down by with teeth at the time. but in doing the poll i realize what a great album it really is. not sure why i was so dismissive of it at the time - probably more about where i was personally then and TDS and Fragile putting the bar so high. i also hated and still don't care for the title track. but i owe you an apology, with teeth, you're a good album.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 13:39 (three weeks ago) link
Despite my best efforts at cramming over the last few weeks I don't really have a handle on year zero or with teeth and they kind of lump together in my mind. probably heresy to fans or detractors of one or the other.I had both versions of ftds, I was never crazy about all those endless different coil remixes so much preferred the UK version with the charlie clouser remixes.
― ledge, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 13:45 (three weeks ago) link
not having Clouser remix Closer was a missed opportunity.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 13:51 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/GkCgj34.jpeg5. Hesitation MarksHalo 28, released 2013148 points, 13 voters
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 14:01 (three weeks ago) link
Pleased to see Hesitation Marks land so high
― Tim F, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 14:11 (three weeks ago) link
ivy street teaming paid off.
― ledge, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 14:15 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/9zD30BC.jpeg4. BrokenHalo 5, released 1992196 points, 15 voters, 1 #1 vote
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 14:31 (three weeks ago) link
my main takeaway from this has been that people didn't listen to the 2016-18 ep trilogy enough
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 14:32 (three weeks ago) link
His Song Exploder episode was really fucking good, my favourite one, and I was never that much of a fan.
― piscesx, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 14:43 (three weeks ago) link
i dunno. admittedly, nostalgia is a tough thing to overcome; but i gave them every chance - and while i loved Add Violence, i did not dig Bad Which at all. also they're EPs, which - obviously - means there's just less music to them. then there's context - those first 3-4 releases were p unique to what existed at the time and wildly influential.xpost
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 14:44 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/e70QNTR.jpeg3. Pretty Hate MachineHalo 2, released 1989222 points, 17 voters, 1 #1 vote
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 14:59 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/jP9LpD0.jpeg2. The FragileHalo 14, released 1999230 points, 15 voters, 4 #1 votes
https://i.imgur.com/U6t1JZI.jpeg1. The Downward SpiralHalo 8, released 1994306 points, 17 voters, 7 #1 votes
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 15:24 (three weeks ago) link
not really a surprise to have the downward spiral so far ahead of everything else
I’m really happy Further Down The Spiral is getting so much love in this poll
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 15:49 (three weeks ago) link
(I wouldn’t have imagine Fragile at #2 - wow!)
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 15:50 (three weeks ago) link
i didn't expect it either, but the total points was close. the #1 vote difference is what put Fragile ahead.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 15:54 (three weeks ago) link
I guess I can understand being the only #1 for Pretty Hate Machine. It's not without its flaws, but I do think it's the most charming NIN album with the most memorable highs.
― peace, man, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 15:54 (three weeks ago) link
Every time I play PHM I’m somehow surprised anew at how gripping it is.
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 15:56 (three weeks ago) link
I wasn't sure which I was going to put first - I hadn't listened to either in a decade or more. phm may (arguably) have the 'best' (catchiest, most melodic. whatever) songs but the arrangement/production/sound palette on tds is in an absolute league of its own.
― ledge, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 16:01 (three weeks ago) link
It was hard to work out where to rank PHM, it's probably the NIN release I've played the most in my life because I bought it (on tape) at a point when I only owned a handful of albums but I think it's been surpassed many times over (I had it at #8 in the end I think). Hesitation Marks kept creeping up my ballot, glad to see it so high.
I prefer the international Further Down the Spiral although I realised my favourite tracks are mostly the ones that appear on both versions.
― Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 16:28 (three weeks ago) link
MAYBE I'M ALL MESSED UP
― ivy., Wednesday, 24 April 2024 16:30 (three weeks ago) link
Really happy to see the Fennesz remix of In This Twilight top the remix poll. It's truly a marvel and one of the best things musically that Trent's been involved with imho.
― octobeard, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 21:38 (three weeks ago) link
Surprised The Fragile: Deviations 1 and Ghosts didn't place on the releases poll! Excited for the tracks now.
― octobeard, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 21:39 (three weeks ago) link
do people want top 60 tracks or top 50? i can do either but only have images for top 50
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 21:59 (three weeks ago) link
i'll try to get through these quickly
60. In This TwilightReleased on Year Zero, 200788 points, 5 votersStudio versionLive 2008
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 22:12 (three weeks ago) link
59. The Only TimeReleased on Pretty Hate Machine, 198996 points, 3 votersStudio version
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 22:22 (three weeks ago) link
58. Kinda I Want ToReleased on Pretty Hate Machine, 198998 points, 2 votersStudio version
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 22:32 (three weeks ago) link
this one was a surprise to see, it always seemed like a lesser track on phm to me
57. Dead SoulsReleased on The Crow soundtrack, 1994102 points, 3 votersStudio version
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 22:41 (three weeks ago) link
i love Dead Souls so much
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 22:48 (three weeks ago) link
56. RunningReleased on Hesitation Marks, 2013106 points, 3 votersStudio version
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 22:54 (three weeks ago) link
53. This Isn't the PlaceReleased on Add Violence, 2017110 points, 5 votersStudio version
53. SuckReleased on Broken, 1992110 points, 6 votersStudio version
53. Less ThanReleased on Add Violence, 2017110 points, 6 votersStudio version/music video
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 23:04 (three weeks ago) link
51. Even DeeperReleased on The Fragile, 1999112 points, 3 votersStudio versionLive 2013
51. Leaving HopeReleased on Still, 2002112 points, 4 votersStudio version
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 23:14 (three weeks ago) link
i really recommend the live version of "even deeper" there
https://i.imgur.com/mRHVhiA.jpeg49. The Great DestroyerReleased on Year Zero, 2007116 points, 6 votersStudio versionLive 2007Live 2014
https://i.imgur.com/qi3irH7.jpeg49. Shit MirrorReleased on Bad Witch, 2018116 points, 3 votersStudio version
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 23:27 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/7KL0Xt6.jpeg48. SanctifiedReleased on Pretty Hate Machine, 1989124 points, 4 votersStudio versionLive 2013
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 23:37 (three weeks ago) link
even deeper wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy too low
― ivy., Wednesday, 24 April 2024 23:46 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/lyRY0lC.jpeg47. The Hand That FeedsReleased on With Teeth, 2005134 points, 6 votersStudio versionMusic videoLive 2006Live 2008Live 2013
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 23:51 (three weeks ago) link
i really regret not managing to fit "even deeper" on my ballot after hearing that live version
i'm surprised "the hand that feeds" was this low, it's quite good at what it does really
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 23:52 (three weeks ago) link
Me too! Figured it for top 25 at least
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 23:57 (three weeks ago) link
same. expect WAAYYYYY higher
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 25 April 2024 00:01 (three weeks ago) link
last one for now:
https://i.imgur.com/yDumcC4.jpeg46. I Do Not Want ThisReleased on The Downward Spiral, 1994136 points, 5 votersStudio version
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 00:01 (three weeks ago) link
58. Kinda I Want ToReleased on Pretty Hate Machine, 198998 points, 2 votersStudio version― ufo, Wednesday, April 24, 2024 6:32 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglinkthis one was a surprise to see, it always seemed like a lesser track on phm to me― ufo, Wednesday, April 24, 2024 6:32 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― ufo, Wednesday, April 24, 2024 6:32 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
I had it at #3, which pushed it over the edge. During voting, I got kinda obsessed with a minor similarity to Genesis's Tonight Tonight Tonight. In retrospect, I might have had it a little high. :)
― peace, man, Thursday, 25 April 2024 00:02 (three weeks ago) link
it didn't make my ballot, but this was one of my favs off PHM in my peak NIN fandom.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 25 April 2024 00:04 (three weeks ago) link
I’m going to go ahead and predict “Only” in the top 20
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 25 April 2024 00:06 (three weeks ago) link
I have a notion about that song that I’ll share as soon as we get to it
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 25 April 2024 00:07 (three weeks ago) link
summary so far:
46. I Do Not Want This - 136 points, 5 voters47. The Hand That Feeds - 134 points, 6 voters48. Sanctified - 124 points, 4 voters49. The Great Destroyer - 116 points, 6 voters49. Shit Mirror - 116 points, 3 voters51. Even Deeper - 112 points, 3 voters51. Leaving Hope - 112 points, 4 voters53. This Isn't the Place - 110 points, 5 voters53. Suck - 110 points, 6 voters53. Less Than - 110 points, 6 voters56. Running - 106 points, 3 voters57. Dead Souls - 102 points, 3 voters58. Kinda I Want To - 98 points, 2 voters59. The Only Time - 96 points, 3 voters60. In This Twilight - 88 points, 5 voters
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 00:07 (three weeks ago) link
and full albums results:
1. The Downward Spiral - 306 points, 17 voters, 7 #1 votes2. The Fragile - 230 points, 15 voters, 4 #1 votes3. Pretty Hate Machine - 222 points, 17 voters, 1 #1 vote4. Broken - 196 points, 15 voters, 1 #1 vote5. Hesitation Marks - 148 points, 13 voters6. Further Down the Spiral - 98 points, 9 voters, 2 #1 votes7. With Teeth - 96 points, 12 voters8. Still - 92 points, 8 voters9. Bad Witch - 76 points, 8 voters10. Add Violence - 72 points, 7 voters11. Fixed - 58 points, 5 voters, 2 #1 votes12. Not the Actual Events - 56 points, 7 voters13. Year Zero - 52 points, 6 voters14. Closer to God - 22 points, 2 voters15. March Of The Pigs - 16 points, 1 voter15. The Fragile: Deviations 1 - 16 points, 1 voter17. Ghosts V: Together - 14 points, 3 voters18. The Slip - 12 points, 2 voters19. Y34RZ3r0r3mix3d - 10 points, 2 voters19. Ghosts I-IV - 10 points, 2 voters21. Watchmen: Volume 1 (Music from the HBO Series) - 6 points, 1 voter21. Quake - 6 points, 1 voter23. Ghosts VI: Locusts - 4 points, 2 voters23. The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo (Original Soundtrack) - 4 points, 1 voter23. "The Perfect Drug" Versions - 4 points, 1 voter23. Broken (film) - 4 points, 1 voter27. Watchmen: Volume 3 (Music from the HBO Series) - 2 points, 1 voter27. Closure - 2 points, 1 voter, #1 votes27. The Vietnam War (Original Score) - 2 points, 1 voter, #1 votes
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 00:08 (three weeks ago) link
I voted for both “kinda I want to” and “the only time” - love how the back end of PHM basically gives up on the angst and just becomes about illicit sex.
― Tim F, Thursday, 25 April 2024 01:38 (three weeks ago) link
going to do 5 more now
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 10:33 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/P1iFwa2.jpeg45. RingfingerReleased on Pretty Hate Machine, 1989138 points, 4 voters, 1 #1 voteStudio version
https://i.imgur.com/Ev7nqP4.jpeg43. BurnReleased on Natural Born Killers soundtrack, 1994140 points, 5 votersStudio versionMusic videoLive 2009
https://i.imgur.com/ZMABIEK.jpeg43. Every Day Is Exactly The SameReleased on With Teeth, 2005140 points, 4 votersStudio version
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 10:55 (three weeks ago) link
actually need to leave it there
aaaaaaaaaaaaHHHHHHHHHHHHHH MOTHERFUCKER!
Ringfinger was my #1! Unlike yesterday's entry from my list, Ringfinger is a decades-long, deeply held #1 NIN song for me. Verse one feels almost like a 60s or 70s soul song, like some Al Green or something. Verse two is, I admit, pretty stupid. Crap about Jesus on a cross that is not unlike the lyrics I tried to write in 7th grade. In revisiting Pretty Hate Machine, I found that to be the case with most of the songs on the album - moments of sublime beauty and transcendent emotion juxtaposed against "I can't believe I wrote that when I was 13" juvenalia. It doesn't matter to me - I'm fine with it and accept it
The intro does a lot to lure me in: the sparse 4/4 kick drum underneath the alternating synth and bass lines is so hypnotic, made doubly so by letting you sit through 8 repetitions of the riff lasting 30 seconds. I think a lot of artists would have probably just left it at 4. And then, pulling the same trick, the awesome, cathartic outro bassline lasts for almost 2 minutes!
Anyway, glad enough other people voted for it that it made it to the rollout.
― peace, man, Thursday, 25 April 2024 12:24 (three weeks ago) link
I thought I voted for it but apparently not! It was very hard and somewhat arbitary to decide which to pick and which to leave, especially from phm. The intro is good and the outro is great but musically the verse isn't so strong. At least be thankful he rewrote the chorus lyrics from the demo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROYVYVPqj34
(Literally the first time I've listened to that in 30 years, after hearing it coming out of someone's tent at a music festival in 1994)
― ledge, Thursday, 25 April 2024 12:33 (three weeks ago) link
I’m convinced that if “Less Than” had come out during the imperial period it would have been a huge hit.
― Doctor Madame Frances Experimento, LLC", Thursday, 25 April 2024 12:39 (three weeks ago) link
xp: yeah, I listened to the demo for the first time during this poll. Definitely glad he worked on it a little longer.
― peace, man, Thursday, 25 April 2024 13:02 (three weeks ago) link
in the chorus of Ringfinger does anyone hear the sounds of someone tapping an incandescent light bulbs 3x repeatedly?
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 25 April 2024 13:16 (three weeks ago) link
Ringfinger remains one of my favorite tracks from PHM. Its production is singular. I have long been a bit of a lyrical apologist for that album, most of the songs on it exhibit some form of "juvenalia".
― octobeard, Thursday, 25 April 2024 13:49 (three weeks ago) link
(it also made my ballot too)
"If I was twice the man I could be I'd still be half of what you need" is a great Reznorian equation. If Ringfinger had sounded more like the live versions from the period heard on live bootlegs it'd have made my ballot and been pretty high up.
― Lemon Kitten (Dan.S.), Thursday, 25 April 2024 15:04 (three weeks ago) link
link to a good example?? very curious
― octobeard, Thursday, 25 April 2024 17:14 (three weeks ago) link
Even Deeper was my #3... for some reason I thought it was certainly going to make the top 30 :(
― ashamed, Thursday, 25 April 2024 17:46 (three weeks ago) link
love the outro, hate the "naa naa, na-na-na naaaaghghgh"
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 25 April 2024 17:55 (three weeks ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNaZKus4NN4
Ringfinger live in 91. I love the songs on PHM but the live versions do it much more for me. A large part of this being the audio quality of the bootlegs: I've got a major weak spot for drum machines swathed in tape hiss.
― Lemon Kitten (Dan.S.), Thursday, 25 April 2024 18:49 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/euHH1Tz.jpeg42. ReptileReleased on The Downward Spiral, 1994144 points, 5 votersStudio versionRadio performance with Peter Murphy, 2006
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 21:46 (three weeks ago) link
unpopular opinion maybe but i still really love this song, one of my favorites on DS because of the way it fits into the narrative etc
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 25 April 2024 21:47 (three weeks ago) link
and that Peter Murphy version is so good
https://i.imgur.com/bCrK1MA.jpeg41. All Time LowReleased on Hesitation Marks, 2013150 points, 5 votersStudio versionLive 2013
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 22:01 (three weeks ago) link
“Reptile” was a very late cut from my ballot - the arrangement is top-tier but that are a few TDS tunes which I feel match it but where I like the song more.
― Tim F, Thursday, 25 April 2024 22:09 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/UW7MyAW.jpeg40. That's What I GetReleased on Pretty Hate Machine, 1989158 points, 4 votersStudio version
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 22:14 (three weeks ago) link
this is another on pretty hate machine that i was surprised that it was as high as it was
This is second tier PHM for me only because I find it a bit whiny
“All Time Low” is monumental
― Tim F, Thursday, 25 April 2024 22:15 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/23CGtTy.jpeg39. The Big Come DownReleased on The Fragile, 1999162 points, 5 voters, 1 #1 voteStudio versionLive 2008Live 2013
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 22:25 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/oknaqQM.jpeg38. HurtReleased on The Downward Spiral, 1994168 points, 7 votersStudio versionLive 1995Live 2006Live 2008Live 2013
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 22:34 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/y6xTg6r.jpeg37. Various Methods of EscapeReleased on Hesitation Marks, 2013190 points, 5 votersStudio version
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 22:44 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/TDEr4q0.jpeg36. God Break Down the DoorReleased on Bad Witch, 2018192 points, 6 votersStudio version
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 22:54 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/vZZ4a3e.jpeg33. Copy of AReleased on Hesitation Marks, 2013194 points, 9 votersStudio versionLive 2013
https://i.imgur.com/dF8PR7I.jpeg33. She's Gone AwayReleased on Not The Actual Events, 2016194 points, 6 votersStudio version
https://i.imgur.com/fokLep3.jpeg33. The Background WorldReleased on Add Violence, 2017194 points, 6 votersStudio version
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 23:04 (three weeks ago) link
i thought Hurt might be higher but i guess maybe everyone thought that collectively & didn’t place it higher lol
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 25 April 2024 23:07 (three weeks ago) link
oh "she's gone away" is from and not the actual events, i should have caught that
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 23:08 (three weeks ago) link
no 'and' in the title either
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 23:09 (three weeks ago) link
i'm not really surprised by hurt being this low it's just ultimately not that interesting
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 23:10 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/JhQde0O.jpeg32. EverythingReleased on Hesitation Marks, 2013198 points, 5 votersStudio version
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 23:14 (three weeks ago) link
now this is one i was not expecting
https://i.imgur.com/J7Tfjp3.jpeg31. OnlyReleased on With Teeth, 2005218 points, 7 votersStudio versionMusic videoLive 2006Live 2008
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 23:24 (three weeks ago) link
31. Only - 218 points, 7 voters32. Everything - 198 points, 5 voters33. Copy of A - 194 points, 9 voters33. She's Gone Away - 194 points, 6 voters33. The Background World - 194 points, 6 voters36. God Break Down the Door - 192 points, 6 voters37. Various Methods of Escape - 190 points, 5 voters38. Hurt - 168 points, 7 voters39. The Big Come Down - 162 points, 5 voters, 1 #1 vote40. That's What I Get - 158 points, 4 voters41. All Time Low - 150 points, 5 voters42. Reptile - 144 points, 5 voters43. Burn - 140 points, 5 voters43. Every Day Is Exactly The Same - 140 points, 4 voters45. Ringfinger - 138 points, 4 voters, 1 #1 vote46. I Do Not Want This - 136 points, 5 voters47. The Hand That Feeds - 134 points, 6 voters48. Sanctified - 124 points, 4 voters49. The Great Destroyer - 116 points, 6 voters49. Shit Mirror - 116 points, 3 voters51. Even Deeper - 112 points, 3 voters51. Leaving Hope - 112 points, 4 voters53. This Isn't the Place - 110 points, 5 voters53. Suck - 110 points, 6 voters53. Less Than - 110 points, 6 voters56. Running - 106 points, 3 voters57. Dead Souls - 102 points, 3 voters58. Kinda I Want To - 98 points, 2 voters59. The Only Time - 96 points, 3 voters60. In This Twilight - 88 points, 5 voters
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 23:25 (three weeks ago) link
I’m a high “That’s What I Get” voter, mostly because it’s a clear precursor to “We Share Our Mother’s Health”. Totally agree that it’s whiny, which doesn’t bother me since Trent as producer >>>>>>>>>>>>> Trent as vocalist >> Trent as lyricist and I pay attention accordingly.
― Doctor Madame Frances Experimento, LLC", Thursday, 25 April 2024 23:52 (three weeks ago) link
Hmmm that lineage does make sense to me - Dreijer really has built a career out of flying the flag for post-PFM dance pop.
Has Reznor ever messed with Caribbean drums?
― Tim F, Thursday, 25 April 2024 23:54 (three weeks ago) link
I don't dislike "Everything", exactly, but it's definitely one of the few tracks on Hesitation Marks that I didn't consider voting for at any stage.
― Tim F, Thursday, 25 April 2024 23:56 (three weeks ago) link
*post-PHM
ooh yeah i definitely hear how it could have inspired "we share our mother's health" but those synths are really the only bit i care about
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 23:56 (three weeks ago) link
i appreciate that "everything" sounds a bit like new order in places but it's just uncanny and doesn't really have enough going on
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 23:59 (three weeks ago) link
all uncanny, no valley
― Tim F, Friday, 26 April 2024 00:18 (three weeks ago) link
i do really like "all time low", that's my favourite off hesitation marks. it really goes on a journey in the same way as a lot of tracks from the fragile do.
― ufo, Friday, 26 April 2024 00:36 (three weeks ago) link
Definitely thought "Only" would be top 20. I'm guessing the top 20 will be mostly 80s/90s cuts then
― Vinnie, Friday, 26 April 2024 00:59 (three weeks ago) link
i love everything. i didn’t vote for it and it’s a little obviously “the track we recorded for the greatest hits we ended up not putting out” but it’s like… the most free nin track, completely untethered from most of the things that keep reznor’s work anchored to the ground, let’s just do a fuckin emo synth rock track who cares
― ivy., Friday, 26 April 2024 01:02 (three weeks ago) link
“all time low” is one of the best things he’s ever done. the “stretch across the sky coda” is just one factor… there’s also:
HEY
EVERYTHING IS NOT OK
― ivy., Friday, 26 April 2024 01:03 (three weeks ago) link
Yeah I like that take on "Everything" - I certainly appreciate its existence
― Tim F, Friday, 26 April 2024 01:11 (three weeks ago) link
I think it’s great! I love how different the vibe is v the rest of his stuff. The still I used was from a video they made for it that they shelved after finishing. Trent said it was because they weren’t happy with how it turned out, but apparently at the time the song was not as popular with fans as they’d expected - which also might have had something to do with it.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 26 April 2024 02:15 (three weeks ago) link
fans HATED it. they still do
― ivy., Friday, 26 April 2024 02:26 (three weeks ago) link
i think it's a bit out of place on hesitation marks and one of the weaker tracks but i don't hate it, it just doesn't really feel like it's as good as it could be
― ufo, Friday, 26 April 2024 02:28 (three weeks ago) link
Does “Only” remind anyone else (even a little) if Sheryl Crow’s biggest hit? Not note for note or anything, but both melodically and rhythmically. Sort of a weird echo, like how you can close your eyes listening to certain Weeknd tracks and make pretend that Tracy Chapman’s voice never changed and then she took some interesting lyrical detours
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 26 April 2024 03:02 (three weeks ago) link
…. has anyone made this mashup
― ivy., Friday, 26 April 2024 03:04 (three weeks ago) link
“Only” is one of those songs that I just can’t help but sing along with, even if I didn’t intend to (I know the words to a whole lot of NIN songs but it’s not like I sing along to “Closer” or “Sin”)
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 26 April 2024 03:06 (three weeks ago) link
"all i wanna do (dfa mix)"
― ufo, Friday, 26 April 2024 03:09 (three weeks ago) link
Props to whomever put The Big Come Down as their number 1. That's such an underrated track and one of the best on The Fragile.
― octobeard, Friday, 26 April 2024 07:58 (three weeks ago) link
I had Hurt at #4. As I was playing tds again for the first time in years a thought flashed into my head, one of those random notions that you immediately know is nonsense - that it was a novelty song, a bonus track, even a cover of a johnny cash song?! Anyway when it came on I realised it's just a fucking great song.
I still haven't really delved into the EPs and I didn't vote for The Background World but that slowly disintegrating 7 minute outro is *chef's kiss*
great images btw thermo.
― ledge, Friday, 26 April 2024 08:03 (three weeks ago) link
That 'The Big Come Down' number one was me.
Ranked it first to help boost it's chances of placing highly, but arguably my favourite nonetheless. A great example of the amazing sound design going on throughout The Fragile, which might be my personal favourite production wise - although from that point on it's all quite consistent on that front. The guitar solo/break in 'The Big Come Down' easily one of my top NIN moments.
― Internet Alan, Friday, 26 April 2024 09:31 (three weeks ago) link
a very weird and cool song indeed, like taking the good parts of Primus
― Vinnie, Friday, 26 April 2024 11:11 (three weeks ago) link
I’d always assumed that guitar break on The Big Come Down was one of Adrian Belew’s contributions to The Fragile, but seemingly it’s not.
― Internet Alan, Friday, 26 April 2024 11:47 (three weeks ago) link
'Everything' was pretty high on my ballot, ivy's take is OTM, I just really enjoy hearing Trent do a full-on pop song, also it basically reignited my interest in the band after tuning out for over a decade.
― Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 26 April 2024 11:57 (three weeks ago) link
“all time low” is one of the best things he’s ever done. the “stretch across the sky coda” is just one factor… there’s also:HEYEVERYTHING IS NOT OK― ivy., Thursday, April 25, 2024 9:03 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― ivy., Thursday, April 25, 2024 9:03 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
I had both Everything and All Time Low pretty high on my list. Just now realized that I accidentally deleted Copy of A from my ballot before submitting, although I can't remember where it was ranked. All Time Low was a song that I hadn't paid much attention to when I first listened to Hesitation Marks. Re-listening for this poll, the thing that jumped out at me was that the vocal cadence reminded me of the Beastie Boys song Girls. A lot better though, for many reasons, including those stated by Ivy.
Jockin' Adrian B. to my dismay.
― peace, man, Friday, 26 April 2024 12:10 (three weeks ago) link
That's What I Get didn't make my ballot but I really like it and am pleased it got a placement here. With NIN, narrowing it down to 30 was surprisingly easy in that after a certain point it's much of a muchness. There are very few NIN songs I don't like so i tried to rep for ones you don't hear a lot. If I'm Looking Forward To Joining You, Finally doesn't pop up, it was very high on my ballot because I've got a strong attachment to it.
Various Methods of Escape and The Background World are two others I've got that with. In the thread before this there was a bit of discussion of Trent's substance issues and VMEO in particular was a big touchstone for me when I was getting sober. The "I think I could lose myself in here" feels like the weirdly comforting sinking feeling of relapsing, before the shit hits the fan but after you're lucid enough to feel the guilt and the gnawing knowledge that this was an incredibly stupid idea. There's not a lot of other music that captures that for me.
― Lemon Kitten (Dan.S.), Friday, 26 April 2024 17:05 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/jZ9eWZ6.jpeg30. The FragileReleased on The Fragile, 1999232 points, 8 votersStudio versionStill versionLive 2009
― ufo, Friday, 26 April 2024 22:38 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/xvyUV66.jpeg29. The Great BelowReleased on The Fragile, 1999238 points, 7 votersStudio version
― ufo, Friday, 26 April 2024 22:51 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/ivPkP8h.jpeg28. Somewhat DamagedReleased on The Fragile, 1999252 points, 7 votersStudio versionLive 2009
― ufo, Friday, 26 April 2024 23:07 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/HNdrDs8.jpeg27. Gave UpReleased on Broken, 1992254 points, 9 votersStudio versionMusic videoLive 2000Live 2008
― ufo, Friday, 26 April 2024 23:18 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/a9sAq4C.jpeg26. And All That Could Have BeenReleased on Still, 2002264 points, 6 votersStudio version
― ufo, Friday, 26 April 2024 23:28 (three weeks ago) link
this one's a favourite of mine, something like their version of a disintegration track
https://i.imgur.com/bQLpjDc.jpeg25. Happiness In SlaveryReleased on Broken, 1992276 points, 7 votersStudio version
― ufo, Friday, 26 April 2024 23:46 (three weeks ago) link
24. All The Love In The WorldReleased on With Teeth, 2005280 points, 8 votersStudio version
― ufo, Friday, 26 April 2024 23:58 (three weeks ago) link
sorry that should be:
https://i.imgur.com/rEZP8NK.jpeg24. All The Love In The WorldReleased on With Teeth, 2005280 points, 8 votersStudio version
― ufo, Saturday, 27 April 2024 00:00 (three weeks ago) link
another favourite, the piano house coda with those overlapping vocals is fantastic
― ufo, Saturday, 27 April 2024 00:01 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/Qy3J1yv.jpeg23. LastReleased on Broken, 1992282 points, 8 votersStudio versionLive 2009
― ufo, Saturday, 27 April 2024 00:15 (three weeks ago) link
last one for today
oh wait no there's one more
https://i.imgur.com/VSYhd6A.jpeg22. The Day The World Went AwayReleased on The Fragile, 1999310 points, 9 voters, 1 #1 voteStudio versionStill version
― ufo, Saturday, 27 April 2024 00:25 (three weeks ago) link
my #1 love it so much
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 27 April 2024 01:27 (three weeks ago) link
It's his highest charting single to this day, right? Such a wild bit of trivia you would not expect. A truly unique single too - in hindsight it's quite a risky pick for the first from The Fragile
― octobeard, Saturday, 27 April 2024 02:42 (three weeks ago) link
Both Happiness In Slavery and The Great Below were in my top 5. Both really capture Trent's extremes in terms of sound palette.
― octobeard, Saturday, 27 April 2024 02:45 (three weeks ago) link
“Last” seems less talked about than other Broken songs but I love it so much, maybe the closest he came to a straight rock song but somehow incredibly sexy - the combination reminds me of Jane’s Addiction.
― Tim F, Saturday, 27 April 2024 02:48 (three weeks ago) link
i really love the wall of guitars on "the day the world went away"
― ufo, Saturday, 27 April 2024 02:51 (three weeks ago) link
i also forgot about the "quiet" version which was a b-side
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmzzu3HqL4c
― ufo, Saturday, 27 April 2024 02:54 (three weeks ago) link
It's his highest charting single to this day, right? Such a wild bit of trivia you would not expect. A truly unique single too - in hindsight it's quite a risky pick for the first from The Fragile― octobeard, Friday, April 26, 2024 10:42 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― octobeard, Friday, April 26, 2024 10:42 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
probably isn’t the case, but I’d be completely unsurprised if Reznor tried to push “Starfuckers, Inc.” as the first single
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Saturday, 27 April 2024 03:52 (three weeks ago) link
the fragile just doesn't really have obvious singles which is surely one of the reasons it underperformed
― ufo, Saturday, 27 April 2024 04:18 (three weeks ago) link
I will never forget Johnny Depp’s introduction of NIN at the 99 MTV music video awards.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Saturday, 27 April 2024 04:22 (three weeks ago) link
xxp it is! Went up to 17. I mean shit, I bought the 12". Fans were hungry lol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_Inch_Nails_discography#Singles
And I recall where I learned this tidbit from too: Rob Harvila's 60 Songs That Explain the 90's.
His next highest charting single was The Hand That Feeds at 31. Closer peaked at 41.
― octobeard, Saturday, 27 April 2024 06:57 (three weeks ago) link
Somewhat Damaged never made my ballot but it could've easily. I once had a huge argument with my then boyfriend because I kept absent mindedly playing the opening riff and staring into space for about half an hour. It's a fantastic opening track. Trying to find out what the "angrily sawing wood with a blunt utensil" sound that punctuates the intro was one of the things that made me interested in music production. The sound design on The Fragile is impeccable.
― Lemon Kitten (Dan.S.), Saturday, 27 April 2024 15:37 (three weeks ago) link
top 20 will be in two days or so
― ufo, Saturday, 27 April 2024 21:28 (three weeks ago) link
sounds good! thanks for the rollout so far!
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 27 April 2024 21:37 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/o8KVsM8.png
Gonna tuck in my tank top and cuff my jorts to get ready for this industrial music!
― peace, man, Monday, 29 April 2024 16:08 (two weeks ago) link
Al Jourgensen having a Blue Öyster Cult tattoo surprises me, somehow.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 29 April 2024 16:23 (two weeks ago) link
let's kick off the top 20
― ufo, Monday, 29 April 2024 20:53 (two weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/dTQzFdF.jpeg20. Something I Can Never HaveReleased on Pretty Hate Machine, 1989312 points, 9 voters, 1 #1 voteStudio versionStill version
https://i.imgur.com/sShZxCm.jpeg20. La MerReleased on The Fragile, 1999312 points, 10 votersStudio version
https://i.imgur.com/Tj1Oh2A.jpeg19. Beside You In TimeReleased on With Teeth, 2005314 points, 7 voters, 1 #1 voteStudio versionLive 2006
― ufo, Monday, 29 April 2024 21:08 (two weeks ago) link
damn i was starting to think my no. 1 wouldn’t make it
― ivy., Monday, 29 April 2024 21:09 (two weeks ago) link
Three amazing tracks.
My one time seeing NIN live was this show, the most memorable part of which was certainly this speech before "La Mer".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIsAazPVnFQ
― jmm, Monday, 29 April 2024 21:13 (two weeks ago) link
kinda wish the rest of With Teeth was more shoegazer/wall of sound style production that Beside You In Time exhibits. Like a whole album building on The Day The World Went Away
― octobeard, Monday, 29 April 2024 21:16 (two weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/65IISFx.jpeg18. Into The VoidReleased on The Fragile, 1999364 points, 11 votersStudio versionMusic video
― ufo, Monday, 29 April 2024 21:24 (two weeks ago) link
jmm damn, thanks for sharing that vid
― octobeard, Monday, 29 April 2024 21:25 (two weeks ago) link
la mer and into the void were nos. 2 and 3 on my ballot
― ivy., Monday, 29 April 2024 21:27 (two weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/bswllm7.jpeg17. EraserReleased on The Downward Spiral, 1994368 points, 9 votersStudio versionLive 2014
― ufo, Monday, 29 April 2024 21:34 (two weeks ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLFUKBWyves
they did do "la mer" into "into the void" live in 2006
― ufo, Monday, 29 April 2024 21:35 (two weeks ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtLHcgDJvzA
and like every funk-adjacent track, the 2013 live version of "into the void" is great, though there isn't any pro-shot footage of it (whatever happened to that promised tension concert film release anyway)
― ufo, Monday, 29 April 2024 21:38 (two weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/YSGrnoP.jpeg16. The WretchedReleased on The Fragile, 1999372 points, 10 votersStudio versionLive 2000Live 2008
― ufo, Monday, 29 April 2024 21:44 (two weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/Ctlkyeg.jpeg15. HeresyReleased on The Downward Spiral, 1994378 points, 9 votersStudio version
― ufo, Monday, 29 April 2024 21:54 (two weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/bvksuax.jpeg14. Terrible LieReleased on Pretty Hate Machine, 1989384 points, 13 votersStudio versionLive 2008
― ufo, Monday, 29 April 2024 22:08 (two weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/79wbiF1.jpeg12. RuinerReleased on The Downward Spiral, 1994386 points, 9 voters, 1 #1 voteStudio version
https://i.imgur.com/MGjGRfZ.jpeg12. A Warm PlaceReleased on The Downward Spiral, 1994386 points, 11 votersStudio version
― ufo, Monday, 29 April 2024 22:19 (two weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/fFv1nJ4.jpeg11. Just Like You ImaginedReleased on The Fragile, 1999402 points, 12 votersStudio versionLive 2000Live 2009 with Mike Garson
― ufo, Monday, 29 April 2024 22:30 (two weeks ago) link
top 10 tomorrow!
It comes down to this…
― Doctor Madame Frances Experimento, LLC", Monday, 29 April 2024 23:00 (two weeks ago) link
GREAT GRAPHICS TY THERMO
― Psychocandy Apple Grey (Pyschocandles), Monday, 29 April 2024 23:28 (two weeks ago) link
Just Like You Imagined is my favorite NIN instrumental. Surprised it placed so high!
― octobeard, Monday, 29 April 2024 23:52 (two weeks ago) link
Mine too - it was no. 3 on my ballot.
― Tim F, Monday, 29 April 2024 23:59 (two weeks ago) link
Lots of my other ballot choices in this run: "Beside You In Time" and "And All That Could Have Been" were top 10 picks for me and "The Wretched" and "Eraser" were top 20.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 00:02 (two weeks ago) link
I’m wondering what people expect the top 10 to look like.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 00:28 (two weeks ago) link
And thanks, candles!
I’m pretty positive on 9 out of 10 but the order is a mystery.
― Doctor Madame Frances Experimento, LLC", Tuesday, 30 April 2024 00:41 (two weeks ago) link
Obviously a lot of singles - I'm more interested to see where any album tracks place. I was disappointed to see "I Do Not Want This" place relatively low but that's nothing compared to my crossness if "The Becoming" misses out entirely.
I'm a bit resigned to "Running" not making it now, sadly.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 00:57 (two weeks ago) link
Starfuckers Inc. better not be anywhere near the top ten. I'd almost prefer Deep.
Regarding the rundown:
Shout out to Terrible Lie's vestigial twin, Now I'm Nothing.
SICNH was my number one. I'm particularly fond of the Natural Born Killers version - first verse and chorus with a new long piano outro.
― Vernon Locke, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 01:32 (two weeks ago) link
I didn't vote because I only really know 2 albums and 1 EP well enough, but I've made playlists for this:
Remixes
Songs
Loads of really great stuff here that I'd never heard before
― nate woolls, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 01:52 (two weeks ago) link
Tim: Running was #56
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 01:57 (two weeks ago) link
:-(
― Tim F, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 02:02 (two weeks ago) link
Thanks for that Nate ! I'm in the exact same position.
― LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 02:40 (two weeks ago) link
there's so many obvious "top 10" contenders that have already placed and the fact "just like you imagined" placed #11 has me excited for the final rollout.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 07:16 (two weeks ago) link
20. Something I Can Never Have
My second highest off PHM, my poll was quite heavy with the sappier tracks. That steam engine is still incredible.
17. Eraser
A stunning instrumental first half, the vocals in the second half are powerful but also the worst example of trent's worst lyrical technique - trying to make you sympathise or even identify with an abuser because they feel bad about themselves.
― ledge, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 07:44 (two weeks ago) link
Very interesting 20-11, I've never had any awareness of what the consensus Fragile picks are beyond a couple of songs (in general I mean, not just on ILM...).
― Gavin, Leeds, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 07:51 (two weeks ago) link
Heresy was my number 2, and really could have easily been my number 1. I really love the way his voice sounds in the verses, wish he did that kind of thing more often.
― silverfish, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 13:43 (two weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/w6xll3r.jpeg10. PiggyReleased on The Downward Spiral, 1994426 points, 12 votersStudio versionLive 2008, Ghosts versionLive 2013
― ufo, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 21:00 (two weeks ago) link
the outro on "piggy" is one of their very best moments
― ufo, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 21:16 (two weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/Mh6s68F.jpeg9. Head Like A HoleReleased on Pretty Hate Machine, 1989452 points, 13 voters, 1 #1 voteStudio versionMusic videoLive 2008Live 2013
agreed!
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 21:17 (two weeks ago) link
no one has ever made drums sound cooler than trent reznor
― ivy., Tuesday, 30 April 2024 21:19 (two weeks ago) link
Heresy has my fav sounding drums
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 21:22 (two weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/vUxwqMW.jpeg8. The Perfect DrugReleased on Lost Highway soundtrack, 1997454 points, 11 voters, 3 #1 votesStudio versionMusic videoLive 2022
― ufo, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 21:28 (two weeks ago) link
i was surprised this wasn't higher, it's so great
it's also quite odd structurally, very poppy first half but then spends the second half on that jungle-inspired breakdown and atmospheric outro
― ufo, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 21:30 (two weeks ago) link
speaking of drums sounding cool
hearing the extremely glitchfucked amen break/drum solo in the middle of this is probably the thing that made me want to be a drummer, which is hilarious because it's practically unplayable (ilan rubin has somehow done it)
― ivy., Tuesday, 30 April 2024 21:37 (two weeks ago) link
I love this poll thank you ufo
I wish there’d been a sidebar for “fave lyric”, I always get “shove it up inside / surprise! / lies!” in my head
― Drowning in TG, he sent me Discipline (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 21:38 (two weeks ago) link
fave lyric: the clouds will part and the sky cracks open and god himself will reach his fucking arm through!!! just to push you down, j-j-just to hold you down
― ivy., Tuesday, 30 April 2024 21:40 (two weeks ago) link
other fave, obv: stale incense, old sweat, and lies! lies! lies!
― ivy., Tuesday, 30 April 2024 21:41 (two weeks ago) link
The “inside!” / “surprise!” / “lies!” section of “March of The Pigs” is so great - a performative bow on the top of the time signature decision (which I was mentioning somewhere upthread), but also at that point Trent declaiming vaguely about “lies” was already self-parody, so it feels like one of the best examples of Trent winking at the listener and saying “yes, I really am completely ridiculous”.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 21:45 (two weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/LeYpGc3.jpeg7. We're In This TogetherReleased on The Fragile, 1999500 points, 12 voters, 1 #1 voteStudio versionMusic video
― ufo, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 21:55 (two weeks ago) link
i didn't expect this to be so high, it's decent but kinda just chugs along, unusually uninteresting for a fragile track
― ufo, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 21:56 (two weeks ago) link
I’m generally indifferent to the Fragile, but I like the chorus
― Doctor Madame Frances Experimento, LLC", Tuesday, 30 April 2024 22:01 (two weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/1d0viVd.jpeg6. WishReleased on Broken, 1992516 points, 14 votersStudio versionMusic videoLive 1995Live 2006Live 2008Live 2022
― ufo, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 22:08 (two weeks ago) link
Video is Sleazy at the top of his powers as a director
― Doctor Madame Frances Experimento, LLC", Tuesday, 30 April 2024 22:10 (two weeks ago) link
iirc they pretty much never play "we're in this together" live because reznor can't sing it
"the perfect drug" was also never played until 2018, though not because the drum solo was impossible but apparently because reznor didn't like how the outro felt when they rehearsed it? something about it killing the momentum
― ufo, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 22:11 (two weeks ago) link
HEY PIG
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 22:16 (two weeks ago) link
― ivy., Tuesday, April 30, 2024 4:41 PM (thirty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
IT COMES DOWN TO
THIS
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 22:17 (two weeks ago) link
I wouldn’t have imagined those songs placing at 7/8, will have to revisit them.
Very, very glad to see “Wish” here even as I wish (heh) it was higher
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 22:19 (two weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/Hkd9duY.jpeg5. The BecomingReleased on The Downward Spiral, 1994518 points, 11 voters, 4 #1 votesStudio versionStill versionLive 2009
― ufo, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 22:24 (two weeks ago) link
My number one - just a really precise and concentrated encapsulation of basically everything I love about NIN
― Tim F, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 22:25 (two weeks ago) link
Was very surprised how high this was.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 22:26 (two weeks ago) link
i think my favorite thing about “we’re in this together” is the…. drums
― ivy., Tuesday, 30 April 2024 22:31 (two weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/JDbmDGm.jpeg4. March Of The PigsReleased on The Downward Spiral, 1994562 points, 13 voters, 3 #1 votesStudio versionMusic videoLive 2006Live 2008Live 2013Live 2014
― ufo, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 22:34 (two weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/pTJKWlA.jpeg3. SinReleased on Pretty Hate Machine, 1989616 points, 17 votersStudio version
― ufo, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 22:44 (two weeks ago) link
Correct
― Tim F, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 22:47 (two weeks ago) link
your fist
― ivy., Tuesday, 30 April 2024 22:50 (two weeks ago) link
Kind of shocked Mr. Self Destruct isn’t going to place at all
― Doctor Madame Frances Experimento, LLC", Tuesday, 30 April 2024 22:50 (two weeks ago) link
i am dying to know what #1 is! i have been casually following along (did not vote) and i am so curious
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 22:52 (two weeks ago) link
You can have it allMy empire of derp I will let you downI will give you herp
― Drowning in TG, he sent me Discipline (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 22:54 (two weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/Z3Q3jOd.jpeg2. Mr. Self DestructReleased on The Downward Spiral, 1994626 points, 13 voters, 2 #1 votesStudio version
― ufo, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 22:56 (two weeks ago) link
Uh I meant Down In It
― Doctor Madame Frances Experimento, LLC", Tuesday, 30 April 2024 22:59 (two weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/UKC8Xhd.jpeg1. Starfuckers, Inc.Released on The Fragile, 1999840 points, 42 votersMusic video
― ufo, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 23:07 (two weeks ago) link
lol
― octobeard, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 23:07 (two weeks ago) link
Glad 42 of us could get past the taste
― Vinnie, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 23:10 (two weeks ago) link
more seriously:
https://i.imgur.com/Dx69Kq1.jpeg1. CloserReleased on The Downward Spiral, 1994760 points, 18 votersStudio versionMusic videoLive 2006Live 2008
― ufo, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 23:12 (two weeks ago) link
phew - good one
― StanM, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 23:13 (two weeks ago) link
but it was nobody's #1?
― StanM, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 23:14 (two weeks ago) link
yeah, no #1 votes
― ufo, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 23:14 (two weeks ago) link
great result revelation & artwork, well done!
― StanM, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 23:18 (two weeks ago) link
Great job, ufo and Thermal!
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 23:21 (two weeks ago) link
thanks for running this!
― peace, man, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 23:32 (two weeks ago) link
Thank you, ufo!
― octobeard, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 23:37 (two weeks ago) link
Mr. Self Destruct was my #1. Used to be The Becoming. However, over the years it's grown on me much much more. I feel it's the most intense and quintessential song that captures the best lyrical and sonic elements of the band. The guitars that sound like razor blades slicing skin. The equally sharp and incisive lyrics. The ambient breakdown in the middle. Belew's insane outro. It's a punch in the gut in the best way possible.
Super stoked it hit #2. I was hoping it might top this poll, but Closer is a perfect, if predictable winner.
― octobeard, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 23:44 (two weeks ago) link
yes thanks to thermo for their great work with the images, that saved me a ton of work
also thanks to everyone who voted or participated in the rollout
― ufo, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 23:45 (two weeks ago) link
full countdown:
1. Closer - 760 points, 18 voters2. Mr. Self Destruct - 626 points, 13 voters, 2 #1 votes3. Sin - 616 points, 17 voters4. March Of The Pigs - 562 points, 13 voters, 3 #1 votes5. The Becoming - 518 points, 11 voters, 4 #1 votes6. Wish - 516 points, 14 voters7. We're In This Together - 500 points, 12 voters, 1 #1 vote8. The Perfect Drug - 454 points, 11 voters, 3 #1 votes9. Head Like A Hole - 452 points, 13 voters, 1 #1 vote10. Piggy - 426 points, 12 voters11. Just Like You Imagined - 402 points, 12 voters12. Ruiner - 386 points, 9 voters, 1 #1 vote12. A Warm Place - 386 points, 11 voters14. Terrible Lie - 384 points, 13 voters15. Heresy - 378 points, 9 voters16. The Wretched - 372 points, 10 voters17. Eraser - 368 points, 9 voters18. Into The Void - 364 points, 11 voters19. Beside You In Time - 314 points, 7 voters, 1 #1 vote20. Something I Can Never Have - 312 points, 9 voters, 1 #1 vote20. La Mer - 312 points, 10 voters22. The Day The World Went Away - 310 points, 9 voters, 1 #1 vote23. Last - 282 points, 8 voters24. All The Love In The World - 280 points, 8 voters25. Happiness In Slavery - 276 points, 7 voters26. And All That Could Have Been - 264 points, 6 voters27. Gave Up - 254 points, 9 voters28. Somewhat Damaged - 252 points, 7 voters29. The Great Below - 238 points, 7 voters30. The Fragile - 232 points, 8 voters31. Only - 218 points, 7 voters32. Everything - 198 points, 5 voters33. Copy of A - 194 points, 9 voters33. She's Gone Away - 194 points, 6 voters33. The Background World - 194 points, 6 voters36. God Break Down the Door - 192 points, 6 voters37. Various Methods of Escape - 190 points, 5 voters38. Hurt - 168 points, 7 voters39. The Big Come Down - 162 points, 5 voters, 1 #1 vote40. That's What I Get - 158 points, 4 voters41. All Time Low - 150 points, 5 voters42. Reptile - 144 points, 5 voters43. Burn - 140 points, 5 voters43. Every Day Is Exactly The Same - 140 points, 4 voters45. Ringfinger - 138 points, 4 voters, 1 #1 vote46. I Do Not Want This - 136 points, 5 voters47. The Hand That Feeds - 134 points, 6 voters48. Sanctified - 124 points, 4 voters49. The Great Destroyer - 116 points, 6 voters49. Shit Mirror - 116 points, 3 voters51. Even Deeper - 112 points, 3 voters51. Leaving Hope - 112 points, 4 voters53. This Isn't the Place - 110 points, 5 voters53. Suck - 110 points, 6 voters53. Less Than - 110 points, 6 voters56. Running - 106 points, 3 voters57. Dead Souls - 102 points, 3 voters58. Kinda I Want To - 98 points, 2 voters59. The Only Time - 96 points, 3 voters60. In This Twilight - 88 points, 5 voters
Interesting that no one had Closer at #1. Has there been an artist poll where the #1 song had zero #1 votes?
― octobeard, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 23:46 (two weeks ago) link
Thank u ufo for pollrunning and thermo for imagicking - excellent work all around!
― Tim F, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 23:47 (two weeks ago) link
and the rest:
61. The Way Out Is Through - 82 points, 5 voters62. Find My Way - 80 points, 4 voters63. While I'm Still Here - 78 points, 5 voters64. Satellite - 76 points, 4 voters65. Pilgrimage - 72 points, 2 voters66. Down In It - 66 points, 3 voters67. Burning Bright (Field on Fire) - 64 points, 3 voters68. Over and Out - 64 points, 3 voters69. The Downward Spiral - 62 points, 2 voters70. The Lovers - 60 points, 2 voters71. Maybe Just Once - 56 points, 1 voter72. Lights In The Sky - 50 points, 3 voters73. I'm Looking Forward To Joining You, Finally - 50 points, 1 voter74. The Persistence of Loss - 50 points, 1 voter75. The Frail - 48 points, 2 voters76. Sunspots - 44 points, 2 voters77. Memorabilia - 44 points, 2 voters78. The Collector - 44 points, 1 voter79. The New Flesh - 42 points, 1 voter80. Right Where It Belongs - 40 points, 2 voters81. 34 Ghosts IV - 38 points, 1 voter82. The Sound Of Forgetting - 36 points, 1 voter83. Underneath It All - 36 points, 2 voters84. The Idea of You - 36 points, 1 voter85. Discipline - 34 points, 2 voters86. Me, I'm Not - 34 points, 2 voters87. Quake Theme - 32 points, 2 voters88. Big Man with a Gun - 32 points, 1 voter89. The Mark Has Been Made - 32 points, 1 voter90. In Two - 32 points, 1 voter91. Dear World, - 30 points, 1 voter92. With Teeth - 30 points, 2 voters93. Play the Goddamn Part - 30 points, 1 voter94. Nun With a Motherfucking Gun - 30 points, 1 voter95. Zero Sum - 28 points, 1 voter96. Metal - 28 points, 2 voters97. A Violet Fluid - 28 points, 1 voter98. Starfuckers, Inc. - 28 points, 1 voter99. Physical (You're So) - 24 points, 3 voters100. Driver Down - 24 points, 1 voter101. Complication - 24 points, 2 voters102. Corona Radiata - 22 points, 1 voter103. The Four of Us Are Dying - 20 points, 1 voter104. 10 Miles High - 20 points, 1 voter105. Please - 20 points, 2 voters106. Survivalism - 20 points, 1 voter107. Life On Mars? - 18 points, 1 voter108. Came Back Haunted - 16 points, 2 voters109. Where Is Everybody? - 16 points, 1 voter110. Hand Covers Bruise - 16 points, 1 voter111. Echoplex - 14 points, 1 voter112. Ice Age - 12 points, 1 voter113. (You Made It Feel Like) Home - 12 points, 1 voter114. Love Is Not Enough - 8 points, 1 voter115. Zoo Station - 8 points, 1 voter116. Gone, Still - 8 points, 1 voter117. Meet Your Master - 6 points, 1 voter118. Pinion - 4 points, 1 voter119. Ahead of Ourselves - 4 points, 1 voter120. My Violent Heart - 4 points, 1 voter121. Demon Seed - 2 points, 1 voter122. The Warning - 2 points, 1 voter
― ufo, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 23:48 (two weeks ago) link
i don’t think i even voted for Closer! lol facepalm. i def forgot but it seems like it was fine without me
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 23:49 (two weeks ago) link
oh whoops that didn't have the ties, so if anyone really cares:
61. The Way Out Is Through - 82 points, 5 voters62. Find My Way - 80 points, 4 voters63. While I'm Still Here - 78 points, 5 voters64. Satellite - 76 points, 4 voters65. Pilgrimage - 72 points, 2 voters66. Down In It - 66 points, 3 voters67. Burning Bright (Field on Fire) - 64 points, 3 voters67. Over and Out - 64 points, 3 voters69. The Downward Spiral - 62 points, 2 voters70. The Lovers - 60 points, 2 voters71. Maybe Just Once - 56 points, 1 voter72. Lights In The Sky - 50 points, 3 voters72. I'm Looking Forward To Joining You, Finally - 50 points, 1 voter72. The Persistence of Loss - 50 points, 1 voter75. The Frail - 48 points, 2 voters76. Sunspots - 44 points, 2 voters76. Memorabilia - 44 points, 2 voters76. The Collector - 44 points, 1 voter79. The New Flesh - 42 points, 1 voter80. Right Where It Belongs - 40 points, 2 voters81. 34 Ghosts IV - 38 points, 1 voter82. The Sound Of Forgetting - 36 points, 1 voter82. Underneath It All - 36 points, 2 voters82. The Idea of You - 36 points, 1 voter85. Discipline - 34 points, 2 voters85. Me, I'm Not - 34 points, 2 voters87. Quake Theme - 32 points, 2 voters87. Big Man with a Gun - 32 points, 1 voter87. The Mark Has Been Made - 32 points, 1 voter87. In Two - 32 points, 1 voter91. Dear World, - 30 points, 1 voter91. With Teeth - 30 points, 2 voters91. Play the Goddamn Part - 30 points, 1 voter91. Nun With a Motherfucking Gun - 30 points, 1 voter95. Zero Sum - 28 points, 1 voter95. Metal - 28 points, 2 voters95. A Violet Fluid - 28 points, 1 voter95. Starfuckers, Inc. - 28 points, 1 voter99. Physical (You're So) - 24 points, 3 voters99. Driver Down - 24 points, 1 voter99. Complication - 24 points, 2 voters102. Corona Radiata - 22 points, 1 voter103. The Four of Us Are Dying - 20 points, 1 voter103. 10 Miles High - 20 points, 1 voter103. Please - 20 points, 2 voters103. Survivalism - 20 points, 1 voter107. Life On Mars? - 18 points, 1 voter108. Came Back Haunted - 16 points, 2 voters108. Where Is Everybody? - 16 points, 1 voter108. Hand Covers Bruise - 16 points, 1 voter111. Echoplex - 14 points, 1 voter112. Ice Age - 12 points, 1 voter112. (You Made It Feel Like) Home - 12 points, 1 voter114. Love Is Not Enough - 8 points, 1 voter114. Zoo Station - 8 points, 1 voter114. Gone, Still - 8 points, 1 voter117. Meet Your Master - 6 points, 1 voter118. Pinion - 4 points, 1 voter118. Ahead of Ourselves - 4 points, 1 voter118. My Violent Heart - 4 points, 1 voter121. Demon Seed - 2 points, 1 voter121. The Warning - 2 points, 1 voter
― ufo, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 23:50 (two weeks ago) link
Is March of the Pigs the highest charting song to be in 7/8 for most of its running time? It hit 59.
― octobeard, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 23:50 (two weeks ago) link
Good for “The Becoming” - always really liked that one. (Did anyone ever remix that?)
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 23:53 (two weeks ago) link
"Closer" was no. 4 for me, and when compiling my ballot I did turn my mind to the question of whether I was if anything underrating it a bit, taking slightly for granted what is clearly a masterpiece of construction and populism and compulsiveness and repulsiveness and creativity. The outro is just this outrageous succession of "look at this! no, look at this! no, look at this!" moments whose additive approach never falls into the trap of making the song less than the sum of its parts - maybe the moment where Reznor's spiritual connection to Lindsey Buckingham is clearest.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 23:53 (two weeks ago) link
“The Becoming” (subconsciously) always seemed like a Giger/X-Men “Lifedeath”/Cronenberg vibe - a man turning into a monster, or thinking he is. Should’ve been on the Annihilation soundtrack.
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 23:56 (two weeks ago) link
Totally. Especially when the coda whisper "I wont give up / it wants me dead / and goddamn this noise inside my head" turns into a cyborg's hiss that feels like the splattery aphex-ish snares of the prior snares (now overwhelmed by pummeling kicks). A total subjugation to the man-machine to underscore the point that the earlier guitar break and final outro are both terrible lies.
(when I first got Further Down The Spiral I vaguely assumed "At The Heart of it All" was a particularly radical remix of "The Becoming")
― Tim F, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 00:12 (two weeks ago) link
aphex-ish *feel of the prior snares
― Tim F, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 00:13 (two weeks ago) link
Right on!
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 00:27 (two weeks ago) link
Tim, I had the same thought about “Closer” but decided to leave it where I had it (maybe 6?) since I figured it wouldn’t need the help.
― Doctor Madame Frances Experimento, LLC", Wednesday, 1 May 2024 00:44 (two weeks ago) link
I feel like a lot of people must have felt it was safe to move closer down a little for their personal favs (and those favs were Mr self destruct and The Becoming). I had it 2nd after Head Like a Hole. I just could not put that bass synth groove anywhere but first.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 02:26 (two weeks ago) link
Thermo thanks for the images btw. Awesome stuff.
― octobeard, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 03:07 (two weeks ago) link
Great poll thank you ufo
@ octobeard, “Solsbury Hill” is 7/4, but otherwise yes maybe
― Drowning in TG, he sent me Discipline (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 03:25 (two weeks ago) link
"money" is the obvious one in 7/4
"paranoid android" has a little section in 7/8 but it's hard to think of many songs that are mostly/all in 7/8
― ufo, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 03:30 (two weeks ago) link
listening to the downward spiral for the first time in a really long time when preparing my ballot for this poll The Becoming was the track that really jumped out at me, I had somehow forgotten how incredible it sounded.
― silverfish, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 03:41 (two weeks ago) link
I did not expect literally every track from TDS to get as much love as they all did.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 03:43 (two weeks ago) link
Tho surprised Hurt didn’t do better and Dead Souls didn’t get more love. Also expected All The Live in the world to rank higher.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 03:44 (two weeks ago) link
Thanks ufo. This was fun.
Favorite lyrics: I want you to take me I want you to break meI want you to throw me away
Also:I wanna fuck everyone in the world I wanna do something THAT MATTERS
And in Eraser I love the way his throat-shredding snarl KILL ME merges with the jagged distortion at the end. *chef’s kiss*Last and Eraser really rose in my estimation listening back to everything for this poll. The Only Time and Ringfinger deserved better.
TDS is such a marvel on headphones. While I was heavily invested in the Fragile—drove to the mall on release day to get it (+ Tori To Venus and Back), listened to it obsessively—I’ve always felt it was a bit of a let down. TDS set such a high bar, everything on The Fragile feels more flat/shallow. Baffled that The Great Below placed. I even think La Mer is kinda goofy, though I liked it at the time.
Spent a lot of time trying (again) to get into With Teeth and beyond. Still think hardly any of it is as good as PHM, Broken and TDS.
― How to Destroy How to Dress Well (lou), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 03:57 (two weeks ago) link
I never got that lyric… how do you go from banging literally everybody to doing something that “matters”?!
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 04:02 (two weeks ago) link
he's manic
― ivy., Wednesday, 1 May 2024 04:04 (two weeks ago) link
Yes I suppose that would explain things.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 04:06 (two weeks ago) link
I never got that lyric… how do you go from banging literally everybody to doing something that “matters”?!― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, May 1, 2024 4:02 AM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, May 1, 2024 4:02 AM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
lol this lyric makes perfect sense to me
― Tim F, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 04:13 (two weeks ago) link
I love how eraser starts by sampling someone blowing into a straw or bottle
― octobeard, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 04:16 (two weeks ago) link
Then beeeeeeees
I love The Fragile, but I think it's fair to say that nothing he has done since TDS has the level of sheer obsessive-compulsive layering that TDS has. The Fragile is still gorgeous-sounding but the complexity such as it is tends to derive from shifts in direction within songs (though The Fragile's status as dense and difficult has always struck me as overstated). Hesitation Marks feels like it splits the difference between those two approaches.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 04:20 (two weeks ago) link
yeah i agree, the production on tds is just so intricate in a way he's never quite replicated
― ufo, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 04:24 (two weeks ago) link
definitely. that kind of intensity-fuelled-by-bad-vibes is kind of a once in a lifetime deal imo
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 05:03 (two weeks ago) link
It’s a master class in mix and sequencing… how could he make such decisively new decisions all at once?
― Drowning in TG, he sent me Discipline (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 05:11 (two weeks ago) link
it seemed like he was so intent on not letting what he felt like the failures of PHM not happen again made him over-correct into a lane that didn’t even really exist til then? like his own self-loathing & pursuit of perfection is some kind of insane alchemy where he doesn’t even know what he doesn’t know i guess
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 05:26 (two weeks ago) link
i love what he posted on the 30th anniversary of DS back in march, it was quite tender: “Spending too much time looking backwards feels dangerous to me, but this day on the calendar caught my attention. Has it really been that long, old friend?I just spent an hour listening to this time capsule of what 28 year old me had to say, and it still excites me and breaks my heart.Be kind to yourselves. Hope to see you soon.TR 3.8.24”
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 05:28 (two weeks ago) link
I never got that lyric… how do you go from banging literally everybody to doing something that “matters”?!― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, May 1, 2024 4:02 AM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglinklol this lyric makes perfect sense to me― Tim F, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 04:13 (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Tim F, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 04:13 (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
More seriously I always understood that final refrain of “I Do Not Want This” as getting at the way we conflate “mattering” with “mattering for others” - basically, having an impact, making an imprint on reality that is indubitably broader than our own subjective experience of it.
Which makes the way the song lurches into “Big Man With A Gun” (a song I don’t particularly care for in any other respect) really effective given that song is basically the same concept taken to its logical and most destructive extreme.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 07:47 (two weeks ago) link
Big Man with a Gun is a lol for sure.
― ledge, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 08:00 (two weeks ago) link
Just catching up with the top ten...
I didn't vote for either of the pig songs. Piggy I thought was too simple maybe? But it's both a deceptive and effective simplicity. I'm a bit surprised that March of the Pigs is so high though.
Head like a Hole could seem a bit straightforward and ripe for parody but there's loads of excellent sound design hidden in there.
The Perfect Drug - ok I'll have to listen to this again, I thought it was considered a bit of a throwaway.
We're in This Together - my top rated from The Fragile, maybe not that interesting production wise compared to some of the others but just a killer song with a great vocal performance.
The Becoming, my #1. Though as noted above TDS is an incredible outstanding nonpareil ne plus ultra of production, some of the tracks maybe tip just a little too noisy or chaotic for my tastes but this one hits the sweet spot, and I love the "how it started / how it's going" aspect of the lyrics. (I beat my machine! Sounds good :) It won't give up it wants me dead! Oh dear :(
Sin. Yes. I put this below HlaH but could've switched them around easily.
Mr Self Destruct - just an incredible opening track and statement of intent.
Closer - Maybe I did vote it lower for being the normies choice lol but I couldn't put it better than Tim upthread, "a masterpiece of construction and populism and compulsiveness and repulsiveness and creativity."
― ledge, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 08:23 (two weeks ago) link
I Do Not Want This and BMWAG are so inseparable, I just put them next to each other on my ballot.
Anyone else find TDS and NIN in general to be perfect gym music? The playlist I made for this poll is really quite invigorating.
― How to Destroy How to Dress Well (lou), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 08:30 (two weeks ago) link
btw thanks ufo for the poll and thermo for the images! It's been good revisiting an old friend. Sadly I haven't really had any revelations about post TDS stuff but I'll carry on digging in, and put my old faves back on semi regular rotation. And Ill definitely be there if they tour again.
― ledge, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 08:32 (two weeks ago) link
lol I have always heard “I beat my machine” as a masturbation metaphor (I give it pleasure; I allow its needs to consume me); it had never even occurred to me until now that he might mean “I had overcome/suppressed it”
― Tim F, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 08:47 (two weeks ago) link
ha! Well your reading certainly never occurred to me!
― ledge, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 09:01 (two weeks ago) link
I didn't vote because I didn't have time to take a deep dive into the NIN stuff I haven't heard in years. Great poll with a lot of surprises though. And great job with the images Thermo!
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 10:52 (two weeks ago) link
Big thank you to ufo and Thermo, this has been a lot of fun to follow. 'Closer' was my #3 but it is my favourite on some days, feels right as the pollwinner either way. Have realised that The Downward Spiral is an all-time record for me at this point - just amazing songwriting and sound design that doesn't feel particularly tethered to its era or genre (whatever that might be). Agree with Tim F's point that The Fragile doesn't feel that densely layered by comparison - it can overwhelm due to its sheer length and I guess the sustained mood but the songs breathe a bit more I think?
Stray thought: I really need to re-listen to Still.
― Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 12:28 (two weeks ago) link
Adding my thanks to ufo and Thermo!
― Vinnie, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 14:36 (two weeks ago) link
stoked to see three other #1 votes for 'The Becoming'! I had a lot of fun exploring their discography and partaking in this poll, so thanks for running it, ufo! :D
― ashamed, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 17:41 (two weeks ago) link
TDS in the gym seems like it would work if you are fueled by self hate haha. Trent as drill sergeant! "Don't give up (flabby muscles) wants you dead" "I wanna lift you like an animal" "march push (ups) crawl right up on your knees"
― octobeard, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 17:50 (two weeks ago) link
And of course, after you're done and sore:
"I hurt myself today"
― octobeard, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 17:52 (two weeks ago) link
Relistened to TDS last night, it really is a penis album, huh! Amazing production, just wow. I would put a marble bust of Flood on my piano
― Drowning in TG, he sent me Discipline (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 18:27 (two weeks ago) link
“I want to fuck everyone in the world / I want to do something that matters” is pretty much sexual compulsion in a nutshell, as I’ve viewed it
― Drowning in TG, he sent me Discipline (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 18:28 (two weeks ago) link
I think it’s sexual but also (especially for a younger person) it’s “I feel small and powerless and want to make some sort of mark,” an emotion that can be positive or negative.
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 18:39 (two weeks ago) link
“The world is so huge and I am so tiny, what can I do to be remembered or acknowledged?”
Which, heh, TDS did that.
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 18:41 (two weeks ago) link
As a side note, I love 1990s RS NIN cover stories:
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/the-fragile-world-of-trent-reznor-114999/
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/nine-inch-nails-love-it-to-death-2-96265/
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 18:44 (two weeks ago) link
“We try to name all our hard drives something easy to remember,” Reznor explains to computer consultant Charlie Clouser, “like Bum Cleaver, Cunny or Big Hairy Pussy. Sometimes it gets complicated when we don’t remember if the file we’re looking for is Assfuck 25 on the Fuckfuck 12 drive or Fuckfuck 12 on the Assfuck 25 drive. And when we’re talking to each other in the studio, wondering aloud whether running the Cunnykick file through the Fuckchop program on the Asslick disc would help us access the Turbocunt compression . . . it’s really like speaking another language altogether.”To paraphrase the late poet Philip Larkin, hatred is to Nine Inch Nails what daffodils were to Wordsworth.
To paraphrase the late poet Philip Larkin, hatred is to Nine Inch Nails what daffodils were to Wordsworth.
― Drowning in TG, he sent me Discipline (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 18:56 (two weeks ago) link
lmao
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 19:27 (two weeks ago) link
The writer had a lot of fun on that assignment.
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 19:38 (two weeks ago) link
I beat my [Bum Cleaver] machine
― Tim F, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 20:14 (two weeks ago) link
Quake Theme has one of the best screams ever. It's my morning alarm.
― How to Destroy How to Dress Well (lou), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 20:38 (two weeks ago) link
My song ballot:Head Like a Hole Closer Into The Void A Warm Place The Background WorldHeresy All The Love In The World Everything La Mer Sin Burn GiveUp The Sound Of ForgettingThe Hand That FeedsLess Than Nun With a Motherf*&*ing GunDisciplineDead Souls The Wretched Suck Just Like You Imagined Life On Mars?PilgrimageWish Ice AgePiggy Zoo StationCopy Of A Terrible Lie Metal
i might have been the only person to vote for songs off his soundtracks. i had "A Warm Place" pretty high and a tracks like "The Sound Of Forgetting" from Girl With The Dragon Tattoo, for example, aren't far off in terms of vibe. i knew i was likely throwing away my vote, but didn't care - the songs off his soundtracks i like, i *really* like!
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 21:57 (two weeks ago) link
also, whoever else voted for Metal: i love you.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 21:59 (two weeks ago) link
Also I think the only fantasy nine inch nails album I want to compile is Trent Reznor’s Beginner’s Guide to Gay Sex― Tim F, Wednesday, April 17, 2024 3:56 AM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Tim F, Wednesday, April 17, 2024 3:56 AM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink
In other news, here's my ballot:
The BecomingSinJust Like You ImaginedCloser Happiness In SlaveryBeside You In TimeAnd All That Could Have BeenRunning I Do Not Want ThisKinda I Want ToAll Time LowWishThe WretchedEraser Find My WayThe Only TimeZero Sum The Perfect DrugInto The VoidGod Break Down The DoorLastAll The Love in The WorldSuckSatellite March of the PigsWhile I'm Still HereThe Great Destroyer The Background WorldSomewhat DamagedDemon Seed
― Tim F, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 23:00 (two weeks ago) link
my ballots:
Beside You in TimeLa MerInto the VoidThe WretchedSinRuinerJust Like You ImaginedVarious Methods of EscapeWishAll Time LowAll the Love in the WorldCopy of aThe Great BelowThe BecomingEven DeeperThis Isn't the PlaceSomething I Can Never HaveFind My WayBurning Bright (Field on Fire)The Only TimeThe Great DestroyerOver and OutSunspotsCloserReptileLeaving HopeMarch of the PigsSatelliteA Warm PlaceWhile I'm Still Here
Releases
FixedHesitation MarksThe FragilePretty Hate MachineStillThe Downward SpiralNot the Actual EventsBad WitchFurther Down the SpiralThe Vietnam War
Me, I'm Not (Olof Dreijer)The Hand that Feeds (Photek Straight Mix)Ruiner (Version)In This Twilight (Fennesz)The Beginning of the End (Ladytron)Eraser (Denial; Realization)The Day the World Went Away (Porter Ricks Mix)Closer (Precursor)Copy of a (Simian Mobile Disco)Find My Way (Oneohtrix Point Never Remix)
― ivy., Wednesday, 1 May 2024 23:14 (two weeks ago) link
Big laugh on the #1 fake out, top work pollrunners. Closer was my number two, as I'm sure it was for plenty of others.
I pulled together my list last minute, so apologies for Burn and Perfect Drug not being higher. It was almost worth it to be (I think) the only person who voted for a Ghosts track.
Did anyone else vote for Closure or the Broken movie as a release?
― Vernon Locke, Thursday, 2 May 2024 00:58 (two weeks ago) link
Top 30 Tracks
Mr. Self DestructHappiness In SlaveryThe BecomingThe Great BelowThe Perfect DrugPiggyThe FragileEraserCloserDown In ItSomewhat DamagedThe Big Come DownMarch Of The PigsGave UpIn This TwilightHeresySuckThe Day The World Went AwayA Warm PlaceThe Way Out Is ThroughComplicationHurtUnderneath It AllJust Like You ImaginedInto The VoidRingfingerSomething I Can Never HaveBurnMe, I'm NotSin
Top 10 NIN Releases
The Downward SpiralBrokenThe Fragile: Deviations 1Year ZeroThe FragilePretty Hate MachineCloser to GodFurther Down the SpiralThe Perfect DrugStill
Top 10 Remixes
In this Twilight (Fennesz)I'm Afraid of Americans (Nine Inch Nails V1 Mix)The Perfect Drug (Remixed By Spacetime Continuum)Closer To GodThe Perfect Drug (Remixed By Nine Inch Nails)Find My Way (OPN remix)The Hearts Filthy Lesson (Trent Reznor Alternative Mix)Happiness In Slavery (Remixed by Trent Reznor and Chris Vrenna with PK)The Beauty of Being NumbSlipping Away
― octobeard, Thursday, 2 May 2024 01:03 (two weeks ago) link
I Do Not Want ThisKinda I Want To
Nice back to back there
― octobeard, Thursday, 2 May 2024 01:07 (two weeks ago) link
Ha!
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 2 May 2024 02:45 (two weeks ago) link
my tracks ballot:
The BecomingSinEven DeeperSomething I Can Never HaveWe're In This TogetherShit MirrorCloserThat's What I GetAnd All That Could Have BeenBeside You In TimeJust Like You ImaginedThe Great DestroyerMr. Self DestructShe's Gone AwayThe Big Come DownVarious Methods of EscapeWith TeethMarch Of The PigsLa MerGod Break Down the DoorThe Four of Us Are DyingHeresyFind My WayThe WretchedThe LoversThe Great BelowHead Like A HoleAll Time LowPhysical (You're So)Less Than
releases:
The FragileThe Downward SpiralPretty Hate MachineStillBad WitchHesitation MarksAdd ViolenceNot the Actual EventsBrokenWith Teeth
― ashamed, Thursday, 2 May 2024 06:30 (two weeks ago) link
TracksThe BecomingHead Like a HoleWe're in This TogetherHurtSomething I Can Never HaveThe Great BelowCloserSinJust Like You ImaginedA Warm PlaceWishEraserSanctifiedThe Day The World Went AwayMr Self DestructRight Where It BelongsLa MerHeresyHappiness In SlaveryReptileUnderneath It AllRuinerHand Covers BruiseGave Up(You Made It Feel Like) HomeIn This TwilightTerrible LieFind My WayDown in ItThe Great DestroyerReleasesThe Downward SpiralPretty Hate MachineBrokenThe FragileFurther Down the SpiralYear ZeroWith TeethHesitation MarksFixedY34RZ3r0r3mix3dRemixesGave Up remixed by Coil with Danny Hyde (from Fixed)Heresy (version) (remixed by Charlie Clouser) (from Further Down the Spiral)The Great Destroyer - modwheelmoodAnother Version of the Truth - Kronos and Enrique Gonzales MullerIn This Twilight - fenneszRuiner (version) (remixed by Charlie Clouser) (from Further Down the Spiral)The Hand That Feeds - DFA MixOnly - Richard X MixRollercoaster - Neil CiceriegaAt the Heart of It All - Aphex Twin
― ledge, Thursday, 2 May 2024 07:11 (two weeks ago) link
Tracks:
March of the PigsWe're in This TogetherCloserHeresyLastSinRuinerEverythingMr. Self DestructEvery Day Is Exactly the SameEraserShe's Gone AwayOnlyReptileInto the VoidShit MirrorHead Like a HoleSomewhat DamagedWishVarious Methods of EscapeThis Isn't the PlaceOver and OutTerrible LieCopy of aLess ThanHurtLove Is Not EnoughJust Like You ImaginedI Do Not Want ThisPhysical (You're So)
Releases:
The Downward SpiralBrokenBad WitchHesitation MarksThe FragileAdd ViolenceNot the Actual EventsFurther Down the SpiralPretty Hate MachineWith Teeth
Remixes:
Closer to GodThe Hand That Feeds (DFA Mix)The Art of Self Destruction, Part OneIn This Twilight (Fennesz Remix)The Downward Spiral (The Bottom)Self Destruction, FinalFind My Way (Oneohtrix Point Never Remix)Eraser (Denial: Realization)Gave Up (Fixed version)The Beauty of Being Numb
― Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 2 May 2024 07:51 (two weeks ago) link
my ballot
March Of The PigsHeresyPilgrimageEraserMr. Self DestructGod Break Down The DoorLa MerThe Great BelowTerrible LieThe Perfect DrugThe BecomingThe Downward SpiralReptileMemorabiliaHappiness In SlaveryQuake ThemeA Violet FluidA Warm PlaceDriver DownHead Like A HoleRuinerI Do Not Want ThisWe’re In This TogetherThe Day The World Went AwaySinWish
Self Destruction, FinalAll The Pigs, All Lined UpThe Downward Spiral (The Bottom)Self Destruction, Part TwoEraser (Denial: Realization)Eraser (Polite)Erased, Over, OutThe Art Of Self Destruction, Part OneUnderneath The SkinCloser (Precursor)
Albums:
Further Down The SpiralThe Downward SpiralMarch Of The PigsCloser To GodPretty Hate MachineBad WitchBrokenQuakeGhosts V: TogetherGhosts VI: Locusts
― silverfish, Thursday, 2 May 2024 15:23 (two weeks ago) link
Though as noted above TDS is an incredible outstanding nonpareil ne plus ultra of production
re this and other comments above about TDS' very unique hyper-layered production density, I'm interested to hear what (if any) other records of the era people think broadly fit into this category
― Tim F, Friday, 3 May 2024 04:59 (two weeks ago) link
Failure's "Fantastic Planet" was the first thing that popped in my head.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 3 May 2024 05:10 (two weeks ago) link
maybe not quite the same hyper-layeredness but a couple of 90s albums that, for me, still stand out for their (idiosyncratic and or fresh/new/noticeable) production: Sparklehorse's vivadixiesubmarinetransmissionplot, Eels' Beautiful Freak, DJ Shadow's Endtroducing, and why not, U2's Achtung Baby
― StanM, Friday, 3 May 2024 06:28 (two weeks ago) link
the guitar on "we're in this together" sounds like the edge's playing on achtung baby
― ufo, Friday, 3 May 2024 06:40 (two weeks ago) link
Regarding hyper-layered: first thing that came to mind was the PE/Bomb Squad stuff, as an antecedent. Trent mentioned 3 Feet High and Rising in the Rick Rubin podcast, so Prince Paul, Dust Brothers and other pre-sample crackdown hip hop production would've been an influence.
― Vernon Locke, Friday, 3 May 2024 06:47 (two weeks ago) link
i tried the first two tracks and this just sounds to me like standard grungy alt rock, sorry!
― ledge, Friday, 3 May 2024 07:51 (two weeks ago) link
It's not 90's (though close) but the album I think of when I hear "hyper layered" is Since I Left You. Especially the original cut with all samples intact.
― octobeard, Friday, 3 May 2024 08:10 (two weeks ago) link
The sonic aesthetic does seem post-Bomb Squad in its layered approach. Prince Paul and The Dust Brothers (at least Paul's Boutique - I'd need to revisit Odelay again) feel slightly different to me, though I'm struggling to put my finger on why? Maybe it's that density never seems like the point of their productions. I can certainly imagine they might have influenced Trent in terms of their strategic use of sounds (sampled or otherwise) though.
The 90s albums that occurred to me as sharing that kind of vibe were New Kingdom's 'Paradise Don't Come Cheap', Disco Inferno's 'D.I. Go Pop', Ruby's 'Salt Peter' and Garbage's 'Version 2.0', though each of them is doing something at least slightly different.
― Tim F, Friday, 3 May 2024 12:41 (two weeks ago) link
I love seeing "The Becoming" so high. I thought it might have missed the cut. That would have been my top-ranked TDS track, most likely.
― jmm, Friday, 3 May 2024 12:54 (two weeks ago) link
The Woodstock 94 performance of "Sin" alone might have made it my #1.
― jmm, Friday, 3 May 2024 13:17 (two weeks ago) link
I know when I first heard it, a large part of the appeal of TDS was definitely the densely layered sound of it, but also that a lot of these sounds were things I'd never heard before, like blowing into straw thing from eraser. I feel like the only kind of stuff I'd heard that did that kind of stuff before was Depeche Mode (because of Flood maybe?)
― silverfish, Friday, 3 May 2024 13:41 (two weeks ago) link
Yup, I was about to say “Violator” and that era of Flood in general, but none of it is nearly at TDS levels of complexity.
― Doctor Madame Frances Experimento, LLC", Friday, 3 May 2024 14:06 (two weeks ago) link
I was a fan of Failure and never really thought of them as that hyper produced. Certainly not to the level of TDS.
In my mind, the only thing that came close the noise/sound layering of TDS was some of Foetus’s work, like Gash.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 3 May 2024 17:14 (two weeks ago) link
TDS also benefitted from arriving right as CDs were becoming the primary form of physical media. The level of dynamic range and clarity was unprecedented not only on the album itself but also the method in which I listened to it… I remember being gifted a pair of “good headphones” at age 15 (as opposed to the standard Sony Walkman issuances) and feeling like all the CDs I owned (and dubbed on to tape for mobile listening) were suddenly shocked into focus
― your dog is fed and no one cares (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 3 May 2024 17:42 (two weeks ago) link
The Flood discussion, and his contribution to the Downward Spiral, is very interesting to explore.
I recently read “Into The Never: Nine Inch Nails And The Creation Of The Downward Spiral” by Adam Steiner, which I would heartily recommend. Atrocious front cover, but some excellent and considered writing contained within.
In that book, there are was the suggestion was that Flood became increasingly uneasy and uncomfortable with the bleakness, particularly the suicide ideation, of much of Reznor’s lyrical content - especially a song that didn’t make the cut for the album proper - and bailed out after completing the album swearing he’d never work with him again.
― Internet Alan, Friday, 3 May 2024 17:45 (two weeks ago) link
most stuff that comes to mind is a bit more turn-of-the-millenium, reznor was really ahead of his time, but fantasma, ok computer, a few super furry animals songs here and there come to mind
― ufo, Friday, 3 May 2024 21:16 (two weeks ago) link
Another comparison that occurred to me was the first Laika album together with the second and third Moonshake albums (the second Laika album might not fit here, even if it’s probably my favourite of the four) - stuff like “Hard Candy” on Dirty & Divine. Those albums came out in 94 and 96 (as did Disco Inferno’s second and third albums) so very comparable timewise.
And of course (“of course”) later on El-P’s production work in the 00s (but not really Company Flow earlier on) - at its best sounding like an attempt to split the difference between “The Becoming” and “By The Time I Get to Arizona”.
― Tim F, Friday, 3 May 2024 22:23 (two weeks ago) link
Kate Van Buren's channel is a gift
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjqZ8RIiRLU
― jmm, Saturday, 4 May 2024 03:06 (two weeks ago) link
Well, that's "NIN meet David Crosby at Woodstock 94"