Inspired by Tinashe's 2 On. R&B perfection. It's lush, sexy, cool, great beat, great vocals... until Schoolboy Q shows up and makes the whole thing gross.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 1 September 2022 15:38 (one year ago) link
Jeremih's Planes has the same thing happen with J. Cole's verse (I even downloaded a version that just leaves his verse off of it).
― Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Thursday, 1 September 2022 15:40 (one year ago) link
8/10 male guest verses tbh
― Left, Thursday, 1 September 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link
Regarding the first Dry Cleaning single (Don't Press Me) from the new album cycle,
file under 'fantastic verses, godawful chorus', what the hell is that banking-advert whistle doing here― imago, Thursday, 16 June 2022 08:23 (two months ago) bookmarkflaglink
― imago, Thursday, 16 June 2022 08:23 (two months ago) bookmarkflaglink
Said terrible chorus only appears once, so it fits here
― imago, Thursday, 1 September 2022 15:48 (one year ago) link
bjorn's dopey little poem on abba's otherwise majestic move on (many of their album tracks could probably qualify)
― Left, Thursday, 1 September 2022 15:57 (one year ago) link
― Left
Also pretty much every rap break on any k-pop song.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 1 September 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link
the painfully german attempt at a funky synth breakdown after the intro to 99 luftballons comes close to killing the song before it even has a chance
― Left, Thursday, 1 September 2022 16:16 (one year ago) link
I forgot they do it again halfway through, I get they need a contrast but some melancholic ambient noodling would work much better
― Left, Thursday, 1 September 2022 16:26 (one year ago) link
I always skip past the first few minutes of 'Close to the Edge', while I appreciate the dedication to the craziness involved, it's a bit of a chore to listen to.
― MaresNest, Thursday, 1 September 2022 16:44 (one year ago) link
'Feel Too Good' by the Move is an amazing song that I have to shut off before they start doing whatever ill-advised goof-ass doo wop thing they start doing at the end.
― Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Thursday, 1 September 2022 16:47 (one year ago) link
but without those first few minutes you don't get that catharsis when it finally resolves to the main theme!
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― comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Thursday, 1 September 2022 16:50 (one year ago) link
Nah, I'm fine with going in at the nice guitar bit
― MaresNest, Thursday, 1 September 2022 16:53 (one year ago) link
I love the Close to the Edge intro. I don't think any prog bands had tried anything quite like that as far back as '72. Yes probably have a few candidates for this thread though
― frogbs, Thursday, 1 September 2022 16:55 (one year ago) link
i love the scraping synth sound on that intro, gives my brain an asmr-like tickle
― comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Thursday, 1 September 2022 18:01 (one year ago) link
The main theme of Close to the Edge is my least favorite part tbh.
― The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 1 September 2022 18:14 (one year ago) link
That melody makes me think of a bob dylan harmonica solo (suck, blow, suck, blow, suck, blow) or a donkey hee-hawing
― The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 1 September 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link
The "cha-cha-cha" bit in VdGG's The Sleepwalkers. Drives me nuts every time.
― lord of the rongs (anagram), Thursday, 1 September 2022 18:18 (one year ago) link
Yeah, think that bit is the sole reason I like Godbluff less than PH or SL
― imago, Thursday, 1 September 2022 18:20 (one year ago) link
If someone comes for the cha-chas in Sound Chaser though, they're coming for me
― imago, Thursday, 1 September 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link
I can't listen to the song at all because of it.
― Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 September 2022 18:23 (one year ago) link
that bit in "Sleepwalkers" is worth it just because it comes back at the climax of the song
― frogbs, Thursday, 1 September 2022 18:23 (one year ago) link
The reggae breakdown in 'Cortez the Killer'
― ol' flint-eyes is back (Matt #2), Thursday, 1 September 2022 22:15 (one year ago) link
that only happens in the live versions tho
― comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Thursday, 1 September 2022 22:19 (one year ago) link
i'm gonna say it: the sex noises part of "whole lotta love" goes on for way too long
The introductory solo to "Close to the Edge" is amazing! Mahavishnu Orchestra vibes.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 1 September 2022 22:30 (one year ago) link
I don’t hate it as much as some do but Jay Z’s spot in Kanye’s Monster almost brings the track to a screeching halt, it doesn’t help that the track itself is very long, editing his verse would probably make it better.
But then we’d lose this meme masterpiece of him just listing monsters:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v52s9w9Q25Q
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 1 September 2022 23:19 (one year ago) link
I don't like the middle-eights in Just Dance, Poker Face or Paparazzi. Damn near sink all of them.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 1 September 2022 23:27 (one year ago) link
"Terrible songs with a great section" is also a thing. Like the introduction to Touch Me by The Doors.
― link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 1 September 2022 23:39 (one year ago) link
^It's by no means a terrible song but the only reason I care about The Buckinghams' Susan is the eerie Charles Ives collage bit, when the opposite is usually true of people in that's the part they don't like.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 1 September 2022 23:46 (one year ago) link
most grateful dead songs would be in that category for me
― Left, Thursday, 1 September 2022 23:47 (one year ago) link
it's not terrible by any means, but i was listening to Sparklehorses' Good Morning Spider earlier today, and after listening to "happy man", i went looking for a radio edit, or at least some version which doesn't cloak the first half of the song in parody radio dial noises, panning. there is another version ("memphis version"), but it's another recording altogether, and it's missing something. anyway, wonderful song made even more mysterious by a section that isn't terrible but maybe should have not been there though
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 September 2022 23:51 (one year ago) link
Esthero - Breath from Another
I always assumed the lunkhead guest rapper was some hack that her crew dragged into the studio to lend the album "street cred" or whatever. but it turns out the lunkhead was Esthero's primary collaborator Doc McKinney. Esthero's own rap works well enough as a bridge, so I don't understand why they thought the song demanded an extra verse
― a lesson before djing (unregistered), Thursday, 1 September 2022 23:53 (one year ago) link
Also not at all terrible but I usually turn Blood on the Motorway off when it gets to the silent part. First 3:30 or so are all that was needed really.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 2 September 2022 00:00 (one year ago) link
was totally gonna post this one, even though it's not the greatest song that's some of the worst rapping i've ever heard. also v surprised it's Doc.
― The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Friday, 2 September 2022 00:07 (one year ago) link
The Deliverance sample at the start is also unbearable
― The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Friday, 2 September 2022 00:17 (one year ago) link
― link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length)
Yeah maybe it deserves a new thread, I can think of several bad songs with a redeeming section.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 2 September 2022 00:42 (one year ago) link
I don't object quite as strongly as some but The Go-Betweens' "Bachelor Kisses" contains a middle eight that sounds incongruous and unnecessary at best. Its inclusion was demanded by management/label hungry for a hit single. Cover versions (there have been more than one might imagine) are at least as likely to omit it as retain it!
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 2 September 2022 01:23 (one year ago) link
The sax solo in Total Control by The Motels. Completely ruins the restrained beauty of what is otherwise an exemplary slice of minimalist girl-group-inspired new wave pop.
― The Ghost Club, Friday, 2 September 2022 01:49 (one year ago) link
Try this version on for size:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg5yi18x424
Sparklehorse - Happy Pig
― Hideous Lump, Friday, 2 September 2022 02:17 (one year ago) link
Maybe I’m alone on this one but “Donna Lewis - I love you always forever” is a great song with a great groove until the “say you love love me forever” with the piano that ruins the mood for me. Sounds like it turns into an ad for feminine towels.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 2 September 2022 02:27 (one year ago) link
Also every Sugarcubes are ruined by Einar.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 2 September 2022 02:29 (one year ago) link
LOL
You don't think his trumpet squonks and bizarre rants added to the band's sound?
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 2 September 2022 02:40 (one year ago) link
Ugh, thank you, I meant to post about Einar earlier. I SAID OUCH, THIS REALLY HURTS! You mean your presence in this song? Because yes it does!
― Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Friday, 2 September 2022 04:01 (one year ago) link
I’ve always wanted the moody Vangelis/Blade Runner-ish parts of “Eyes Without a Face” to go on forever, but the rock-out section, while not all bad, ruins that vibe.
― Spencer Chow, Friday, 2 September 2022 04:57 (one year ago) link
Isn’t ‘terrible song with a great section’ basically going to be every song on WhoSampled.com
― Agnes, Agatha, Germaine and Jack (Willl), Friday, 2 September 2022 05:45 (one year ago) link
thinking bout Charli’s “Femmebot” which glides along so beautifully then goes to clown town with Mykki Blanco’s godawful verse and neutron bum-bum
― assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 2 September 2022 07:12 (one year ago) link
peter hammill is the king of this! Time Heals from Over is all deep until the ragtime part. That one song on World Record with the reggae!
― kurt schwitterz, Friday, 2 September 2022 07:39 (one year ago) link
Miss Broadway by Belle Epoque is one of my favourite disco songs of all time. But I really dislike the part where it breaks down and it's just the backing dudes singing "Uh-huh / I like it" for just a bit too long
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Friday, 2 September 2022 08:01 (one year ago) link
"My Wandering Days Are Over" by Belle and Sebastian - one of the best and most affecting verses they've written. I've no love for the "disenchanted pony" part though. Shit lyrics and just nothingy for a chorus
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Friday, 2 September 2022 08:06 (one year ago) link
"Always on Time" has a stellar chorus by Ashanti but virtually everything Ja Rule says in the verses is offensively dumb
― corrs unplugged, Friday, 2 September 2022 10:17 (one year ago) link
'Feel Too Good' by the Move is an amazing song that I have to shut off before they start doing whatever ill-advised goof-ass doo wop thing they start doing at the end.Similarly, “Cherry Blossom Clinic Revisited” on Shazam starts out heavy and stomping, but then goes into an utterly pointless and profoundly irritating series of renditions of Bach and Tchaikovsky pieces.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 2 September 2022 11:07 (one year ago) link
Mr Blue Sky is (overplayed but it's) such a brilliant pop song... until the drawn-out ending, with the choirs and everything. At the very end you hear the title through a vocoder to remind you, tantalisingly, of the thumping joy of the first 'main' section.
― giraffe, Friday, 2 September 2022 12:23 (one year ago) link
“Under My Spell” by Desire. The spell is broken by that dialogue portion.
― Chris L, Friday, 2 September 2022 12:51 (one year ago) link
"Kashmir" is awesome right up until we come to the "Lord yeah mama, there ain't no denyin', I've been flying" bit, which is risibly inane. A real "will this do?" moment.
― Vast Halo, Friday, 2 September 2022 13:20 (one year ago) link
'You' by REM, good until the end when Stipe unaccountably adopts a Corgan-esque porcine whine when belting out those last few YEEEWWWWs
― Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Friday, 2 September 2022 13:20 (one year ago) link
oh no that rules
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 2 September 2022 13:24 (one year ago) link
anyway first thing that came to mind was taylor swift "lover" bridge
Mr Blue Sky is (overplayed but it's) such a brilliant pop song... until the drawn-out ending, with the choirs and everything
Whatever, that's the best part.
― Bait Kush (Eric H.), Friday, 2 September 2022 13:28 (one year ago) link
{Forever) Live and Die by OMD is pretty sweet until that terrible middle eight. Though now I've forced myself to listen it, it seems inevitable. The same family of synth tones, really. It's not like we were going to drop into 40sec of Ellesmere Port field recordings. Those days are over.
― Michael Jones, Friday, 2 September 2022 13:45 (one year ago) link
Any number of great r&b sons nearly ruined by someone shouting "Hey hey"
― You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Friday, 2 September 2022 14:09 (one year ago) link
songs too
yeah the YEEEWWS are great + the contrast between those and the birdies afterwards
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 2 September 2022 14:13 (one year ago) link
Louisa Marks' Meet Me at Sixth Street sounds great and then the toaster throws up some vile homophobia in the middle. If it wasn't for that (and the poor dead fox) Breakout would be up there with Hopelessly in Love.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 2 September 2022 14:19 (one year ago) link
Mark's
As Eric said, that's clearly the best bit!
― emil.y, Friday, 2 September 2022 14:30 (one year ago) link
The pointless noise section at the end of "Bitter Wind" by Moby Grape. Apparently the rest of the band retired for the evening thinking they'd just recorded a classic and were horrified the next day when they discovered what Bob Mosley had been up to in their absence.
― Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Friday, 2 September 2022 14:37 (one year ago) link
I don't think it's a great song, but I've always thought the cool moody vibes of the second half of Mick Smiley's Magic are absolutely ruined by the first 2:19 (arguably the actual song part).
― peace, man, Friday, 2 September 2022 14:40 (one year ago) link
At the very end you hear the title through a vocoder to remind you, tantalisingly, of the thumping joy of the first 'main' section
That's not the title you hear, it's the words "please turn me over". The song was the final track on side 3 of the album.
― lord of the rongs (anagram), Friday, 2 September 2022 14:57 (one year ago) link
Hahaha sorry, giraffe. Here’s another vote to that section being the best one.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 2 September 2022 15:08 (one year ago) link
{Forever) Live and Die by OMD is pretty sweet until that terrible middle eight
omg I love that section!
― Vinnie, Friday, 2 September 2022 15:16 (one year ago) link
― Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Friday, September 2, 2022 10:37 AM (forty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Haha I love that part. I'd still like the song without it, but that musique concrète bit makes the acid hangover and/or bad trip vibe of the song/album/band that much more pronounced.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 2 September 2022 15:22 (one year ago) link
The ill-advised rap break in Capsule's 'Love Or Lies' (comes in at around 2.55), all the more egregious for seemingly being lifted from a sample bank.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWQRLbMCKeU
― ol' flint-eyes is back (Matt #2), Friday, 2 September 2022 15:23 (one year ago) link
(Forever) Live and Die by OMD is pretty sweet until that terrible middle eight
Me too. In general, interjections from brass sections are good, not bad.
― Vast Halo, Friday, 2 September 2022 16:05 (one year ago) link
Ha ha! Pretty soon every example in this thread will have its champion!
(But it's awful thin synth brass! And it was floating along so serenely...)
― Michael Jones, Friday, 2 September 2022 16:09 (one year ago) link
Madness' lovely version of The Sweetest Girl has a total Fairlight percussion meltdown in the middle that kinda ruins the vibe.
― MaresNest, Friday, 2 September 2022 16:27 (one year ago) link
Well earlier I was gonna put the "Gorgon's heard gossip" line in House of Fun. Clunky as hell.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 2 September 2022 16:31 (one year ago) link
But it's awful thin synth brass!
Well, at the time, according to this article, OMD had expanded to include a real brass section! It sounds good to me.
― Vast Halo, Friday, 2 September 2022 16:33 (one year ago) link
I don't like early (or much) Arctic Monkeys but I'd probably be able to enjoy the first two hits a lot more if:- the last 15 seconds of Dancefloor where it gets all shouty weren't there- the horrid strummy beginning and end of Sun Goes Down sabotaging the nice riff they flank also weren't there
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 2 September 2022 16:42 (one year ago) link
but it turns out the lunkhead was Esthero's primary collaborator Doc McKinney.
Where are you seeing that btw? Shug is credited as the lunkhead on discogs, with Meesah as Esthero's stunt double. Certainly rings a bell and a quick glance at the tracklist of Shug's 1996 album seems to square with that.
― The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Friday, 2 September 2022 16:46 (one year ago) link
xxxxxp - Thanks for that Sparklehorse track!
― ArchCarrier, Friday, 2 September 2022 17:00 (one year ago) link
― Michael Jones
Only the fools and the damned would defend Einar.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 2 September 2022 17:02 (one year ago) link
― ol' flint-eyes is back (Matt #2), Friday, September 2, 2022 10:23 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
yeah I always hated that part too. it's a pretty unreal track otherwise though.
― frogbs, Friday, 2 September 2022 17:02 (one year ago) link
The composed part of Brubeck's "Blue Rondo a la Turk" is great, but I edited out all of the jamming on blues changes in the middle. My edit of "Bitches Brew" took out the free time staccato sections at the start, middle and end, keeping only the "groove" part."100,000 Years" on Kiss Alive is a favourite, especially now that I edited the drum solo/call-and-response part down to 5 seconds.
I love the Close to the Edge intro. I don't think any prog bands had tried anything quite like that as far back as '72.
Closest predecessors might be King Crimson's "Battle of Glass Tears" or parts of Pawn Hearts? Not quite the same thing, but it's funny how Soft Machine open up the first side of their double album with five minutes of multiple fuzzy organs noodling and a droning horn section.
Right, "you thought this riff was just a bit of fun but look out!!"
Time Heals from Over is all deep until the ragtime part.
It is awkward, but I'd call it "bad Elton John" instead of ragtime.
He's good on "Motorcrash".
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 3 September 2022 16:38 (one year ago) link
WE ALL WANT TO HOLD IN THE EVERLASTING GAZEENCHANTED IN THE RAPTURE OF HIS SENTIMENTAL SWAYBUT UNDERNEATH THE WHEELS LIE THE SKULLS OF EVERY COGTHE FICKLE FASCINATION OF AN EVERLASTING GOD
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Saturday, 3 September 2022 16:49 (one year ago) link
Was this really sixteen years ago?
You know that part of Led Zeppelin's "Fool in the Rain" where they come out of the silly Latin section back into the main piano riff and there's like a steadily rising drum roll and...and then there are two absolutely great drum fills--one loping and carefree and the other one very tight and focused? And then that hard shuffle starts up again as if the song had never departed from it in the first place?Ain't that cool?― The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Wednesday, August 2, 2006 7:38 PM (sixteen years ago) bookmarkflaglinkI could do without the whistle, though.― The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Wednesday, August 2, 2006 7:39 PM (sixteen years ago) bookmarkflaglinkI love the whistle. I love everything about this song except that it ends.― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, August 2, 2006 7:40 PM (sixteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink
― The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Wednesday, August 2, 2006 7:38 PM (sixteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink
I could do without the whistle, though.― The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Wednesday, August 2, 2006 7:39 PM (sixteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink
I love the whistle. I love everything about this song except that it ends.― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, August 2, 2006 7:40 PM (sixteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink
― the floor is guava (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 3 September 2022 18:07 (one year ago) link
Upon reflection, MarkR otm.
I was wrong and I am sorry
― the floor is guava (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 3 September 2022 18:11 (one year ago) link
I made an edit of The Doors' Touch Me with all the crap bits cut out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyZH0ev0oMk
― link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 3 September 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link
― big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Saturday, 3 September 2022 18:52 (one year ago) link
The first CD reissue of Moby Grape's Wow actually had the annoying part at the end of "Bitter Wind" snipped off, probably to fit the album and the (mostly monotonous) Grape Jam bonus disk on one CD. The whole album is full of decent songs messed up by terrible sections in it actually. "The Place and the Time" has some lovely parts like the "make the changes..." section about 45 seconds in, but also out-of-tune singing and sound effects near the end. "Just Like Gene Autry: A Foxtrot" was pressed at 78rpm and was preceded by spoken instructions to get up and change the setting on your turntable, followed by another spoken part read by Arthur Godfrey. "Funky-Tunk" has a verse sung half-speed-recorded chipmunk style. "Rose Colored Eyes", one of the album's best songs, has that spoken argument thing near the end. The recorder riff that begins and ends "Bitter Wind" is pretentious and unnecessary.
― Lee626, Saturday, 3 September 2022 19:57 (one year ago) link
“Funky Tunk” also has the line, “How come you ain’t got on your clothes on?” (or something similarly grammatically confusing)I wish I’d found a copy of Wow when I was 12-15 and still had a record player that could play at 78. I did, however, take advantage of the 78 speed when I read about the “star fleet” dialogue on Hendrix’s “Third Stone From The Sun.”
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 3 September 2022 20:04 (one year ago) link
I've been on the fence about the acoustic section of "Symptom of the Universe" for the better part of 4 decades. Not terrible of course but I'm still not sure it should be there. Maybe it should have just been a separate song?
― ol' flint-eyes is back (Matt #2), Saturday, 3 September 2022 20:35 (one year ago) link
Air's Radio #1 is the first one to pop into my head for this. Those goofy vocals that come in after the three minute mark kill the song.
Another one is the album version of Too Much Too Young by Specials. I knew the two minute single edit first, so when I got the album I was so disappointed at the moment when the song starts again and drags on for another four minutes for no reason.
― kitchen person, Saturday, 3 September 2022 21:15 (one year ago) link
He's good on "Motorcrash"
Eh. He really doesn't add anything to the song. Live--at least to judge by their SNL debut--he detracted from it. It was really all Bjork.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 3 September 2022 21:18 (one year ago) link
Come on, now. Einar sucks in “motorcrash” too. Every sugarcubes song would be improved if you remove him. Best thing Einar ever did was creating the band and pushing for Björk to go solo.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 3 September 2022 22:35 (one year ago) link
tbf, he did serve on Reykjavik city council after the Sugarcubes disbanded.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 3 September 2022 22:43 (one year ago) link
Re:Specials, My friend has or had it in for part 2 of Stereotypes, finding it to be basically pointless. But I love it and (thinking aloud so haven't checked) it's also the only real showcase moment for toasting on any of their early material.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Sunday, 4 September 2022 01:21 (one year ago) link
Where are you seeing that btw? Shug is credited as the lunkhead on discogs, with Meesah as Esthero's stunt double. Certainly rings a bell and a quick glance at the tracklist of Shug's 1996 album seems to square with that.― The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Friday, September 2, 2022 12:46 PM (two days ago)
― The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Friday, September 2, 2022 12:46 PM (two days ago)
shit, you're right. I did some very hasty "research" and wound up mistaking Doc's songwriting credit for a feature. was never my intention to sully his name like that
― a lesson before djing (unregistered), Sunday, 4 September 2022 14:55 (one year ago) link
count me among the "You" conclusion defenders. also my buds and i made so much fun of the a capella Corgan section on The Everlasting Gaze but now i kinda think that and "you know I'm not dead!" are kinda the only good parts of the song.
another ruinously bad and offensive male guest rap: "Shoop."
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 4 September 2022 17:31 (one year ago) link
i love einar
― kurt schwitterz, Sunday, 4 September 2022 18:28 (one year ago) link
Yeah Einar is great!
― Kim Kimberly, Sunday, 4 September 2022 19:03 (one year ago) link
He once posted on ilx!
― Kim Kimberly, Sunday, 4 September 2022 19:04 (one year ago) link
Omg "2 On" is definitely a good incentive to explore this question although the "money money money weed fashion" part is fun. Why didn't anyone just ask him to track another verse?
A common answer I've seen on ILM many times (I think it was almost always the same person) is "Work," which I still don't really get. I'm not a huge Drake defender, but everything he added to that song always seemed in good taste, appropriate, and very collaborative. Even the "if you had a twin" lyric isn't 1% as bad as Schoolboy's verse on "2 On."
― billstevejim, Sunday, 4 September 2022 19:58 (one year ago) link
he's done worse things in his life but it's still the greyest portion of the song. I often forget he's on it and it's always a slight drag when he comes in
― Left, Sunday, 4 September 2022 21:25 (one year ago) link
being forgettable is drake's best mode tbf
― Left, Sunday, 4 September 2022 21:29 (one year ago) link
would y'all agree that the more you like an artist, the more the terrible sections are part of the fun because you just kinda "get" them as artists and can kinda get on their level, even if you know something is kinda stupid? (not talking about things that are actually offensive, just things that are artistically cringey and musically distracting?) and that therefore only the truly, really, appallingly terrible sections stand out to you, while the everyday-terrible ones just feel like part of the song?
or is this specific to my feelings about Paul McCartney, who probably has dozens of these as far as the general public is concerned?
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 4 September 2022 21:58 (one year ago) link
This depends on whether I'm listening to them myself (fine) or whether I'm playing them to someone else (unbearable)
― link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 4 September 2022 22:10 (one year ago) link
In answer to your question: The Replacments' Hootenanny to thread! Maybe.
― When Harpo Played His ARP (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 4 September 2022 22:11 (one year ago) link
speaking of, i love most of “uncle albert” but the “live a little, be a gypsy” part…i could take or leave
― comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Sunday, 4 September 2022 22:17 (one year ago) link
Okay, upon reflection, Macca is a pretty good example. A lot of stuff that seemed kind of silly at the time which I tolerated way back when, then cringed at, but ended up ultimately not minding. Thinking particularly of, say, Venus and Mars or especially Wings Over America. But maybe it's just a case of the premise of this thread
― When Harpo Played His ARP (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 4 September 2022 22:24 (one year ago) link
Reggae section in Live & Let Die, ugh
― link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 4 September 2022 22:35 (one year ago) link
B-b-but it fit with the locations in the film! Oh wait.
― When Harpo Played His ARP (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 4 September 2022 22:37 (one year ago) link
Macca is a perfect example, the intro and outro sections of Pipes of Peace are the most beautiful little sections of music that I wish had been extrapolated into a whole song.
Instead, in the middle, there's terrible reggae with tabla breakdowns and lord knows what.
― MaresNest, Sunday, 4 September 2022 22:41 (one year ago) link
If ever somebody needed an editor or collaborator, oh wait!
― When Harpo Played His ARP (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 4 September 2022 22:49 (one year ago) link
Macca may be especially susceptible because he clearly really likes having a lot of musical ideas in one recording, and also constructing songs out of "sections"... with varying degrees or success.
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 4 September 2022 22:55 (one year ago) link
“Bad Guy” outro
“8 Out Of 10” outro
“Boo’d Up” outro
― The self-titled drags (Eazy), Sunday, 4 September 2022 23:07 (one year ago) link
Somehow now recalling some half-remembered details of the collaboration on his “Liverpool Oratorio.”
― When Harpo Played His ARP (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 4 September 2022 23:12 (one year ago) link
Drunk In Love is an amazing track with a bad Jay-Z interlude
― Dan S, Sunday, 4 September 2022 23:18 (one year ago) link
it's still an amazing track
― Dan S, Sunday, 4 September 2022 23:23 (one year ago) link
agree about the “bad guy” outro, the beat just feels cheap and repetitive
the “boo’d up” outro where we find out she’s british is great and i won’t hear otherwise
― comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Monday, 5 September 2022 01:00 (one year ago) link
Love "Blerwytirhwng?" by Super Furry Animals but I'm not sure I've ever listened to it through. the loop is kinda cool for one minute, not six
― Vinnie, Monday, 5 September 2022 03:02 (one year ago) link
It's a locked groove on the vinyl Out Spaced and I think also on the Llanfair EP 7". On the CD EP it's about 30 seconds, it's only on the Out Spaced CD that it goes on for a while (never bothered me)
― The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Monday, 5 September 2022 03:13 (one year ago) link
i did this too!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOQX3IcsN6E
― budo jeru, Monday, 5 September 2022 03:46 (one year ago) link
Ah interesting, makes more sense now xp
― Vinnie, Monday, 5 September 2022 04:47 (one year ago) link
budo jeru at 4:46 5 Sept 22I made an edit of The Doors' Touch Me with all the crap bits cut outi did this too!
― link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 5 September 2022 05:11 (one year ago) link
Jay-Z’s rap in “Crazy in Love”
― Mr. Snrub, Monday, 5 September 2022 20:09 (one year ago) link
the hilariously out-of-place monster rock drumbeat in Sting’s otherwise light jazzy “Englishman in New York”
― Mr. Snrub, Monday, 5 September 2022 20:11 (one year ago) link
I thought it was supposed to be a "hip-hop beat", to underline he's in New York.
My McCartney answer is "My Love" - the bridge/coda ruin it for me.
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 5 September 2022 20:53 (one year ago) link
That was the first example that came to mind when thinking of the opposite phenomenon - amazing bits in otherwise okay songs. Tackhead intruding and then leaving and the song acting as though nothing ever happened
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Monday, 5 September 2022 21:43 (one year ago) link
Nick Berry's Every Loser Wins is similar in that regard - random huge drums appearing for about 20 seconds near the end and then the song forgetting all about them. Except this time it's an amusing bit in an otherwise awful song.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Monday, 5 September 2022 21:45 (one year ago) link
The radio edit of Just Jack's Starz in Their Eyes works so much better than the album version with the quasi-grime interlude that threatens the momentum/nostalgia completely
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Monday, 5 September 2022 23:18 (one year ago) link
“James BROWWWN! James BROWWWN!”
― The self-titled drags (Eazy), Monday, 5 September 2022 23:37 (one year ago) link
More-so in Stop Making Sense. He STILL is the Godfather of Soul y'all so CHECK-IT-OUT
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 01:17 (one year ago) link
the rap breakdown in Erasure’s cover of “Take A Chance On Me”._.
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 02:02 (one year ago) link
nooo kinky makes it :(
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 02:19 (one year ago) link
The only Alcest song I enjoy, Tir Nan Og, has a boring and overlong moody guitar interlude that I always skip through
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 02:20 (one year ago) link
its so weird and out of left field that I can't dislike it exactly
― frogbs, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 02:23 (one year ago) link
Top 2 brief surreal moment from a 1987-88 pop hit along with the waltz bit in When Will I Be Famous
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 02:33 (one year ago) link
I thought the whole point of alcest was moody overlong guitar bits at least that's the impression I got from a few listens
I don't feel great dismissing the schoolkid stuff on stevie's "black man" considering where it's coming from but I don't love it, it nearly drowns out one of the best grooves on the album, and it hasn't aged as well lyrically as his better songs tackling race (still better than you know the one which is mostly a white man's fault anyway)
― Left, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 04:43 (one year ago) link
reminds me of Adele’s “My Little Love”, which could have been the highlight on last year’s 30, because the musical soundbed is beautiful, but as a song it’s underdeveloped because it’s interspersed with voicenotes of her and her kid instead which no one needs to hear more than once, if it all.
― big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 08:59 (one year ago) link
would y'all agree that the more you like an artist, the more the terrible sections are part of the fun because you just kinda "get" them as artists and can kinda get on their level, even if you know something is kinda stupid? (not talking about things that are actually offensive, just things that are artistically cringey and musically distracting?) and that therefore only the truly, really, appallingly terrible sections stand out to you, while the everyday-terrible ones just feel like part of the song?or is this specific to my feelings about Paul McCartney, who probably has dozens of these as far as the general public is concerned?
I can imagine this applies to Kate Bush for an awful lot of people.
― fetter, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 09:44 (one year ago) link
Co-sign on the James Browwwwn bit of Genius Of Love
― Agnes, Agatha, Germaine and Jack (Willl), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 11:22 (one year ago) link
Propaganda's "Frozen Faces" sounds like two song fragments smushed together. The intro isn't complex enough to work as a separate movement. The second half is much better but it still feels like a fragment of a song. Not so much a great song with a terrible section as a potentially good song that needed more work.
Along similar lines Paul McCartney's "Maybe I'm Amazed" alternates between a fantastic verse and a really perfunctory chorus/bridge. It's as if he wrote the opening lines and then didn't know what to do next, so he just half-assed the rest and recorded it. It's frustrating because it feels like an imposter. It's taking the place of a better song.
But of course the classic answer is Tangerine Dream's "Birth of Liquid Plejades", which has a great opening with cellos and strings and then turns into a thin, underproduced organ solo that isn't a patch on the other three tracks on that album. I usually skip the whole thing.
This doesn't fit the thread at all but it's a crying shame Creedence Clearwater Revival didn't do more with the groove at the beginning of "Ramble Tamble". It's only about fifteen seconds long and as far as I can tell they don't go back to it later in the song. The rest of the song is of course excellent but it would have been more excellent if they had developed that bit.
― Ashley Pomeroy, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 19:45 (one year ago) link
Lol there's really several McCartney tunes that apply here. Doctor Casino otm. Him being so musically omnivorous makes him want to tackle genres and styles out of his comfort zone with varying degrees of success, usually resulting in some very unfortunate sections in between great songs.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 19:50 (one year ago) link
I think Paul Simon also registers for me in that same space. I love him when he's doing contemplative, melancholic verses as in '50 ways to leave your lover' but when he suddenly changes the tone into a sesame street sing-a-long he loses me completely.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 19:53 (one year ago) link
I'm amazed at this assessment.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 20:06 (one year ago) link
Yes to Paul Simon. He often manages to pull it off and rarely reaches the full-on flopitude of say, The Capeman but still.
― When Harpo Played His ARP (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 20:07 (one year ago) link
Can't agree with this take on Paul Simon at all! (Then again, you won't ever hear me say anything negative about The Capeman either.) If there might be anything of his which I might bring up in this thread, it's his son's backing vocals in 'Father and Daughter'.
I was thinking of Genesis' 'Anything She Does' here. I do think the vocals and overall melody of the verses and choruses are pretty alright, but I quite dislike the in-your-face main brass & bass riff.I also have no idea why Phil Collins always did whatever he did before and after 'Throwing it All Away' whenever they performed it live.
Jarring live renditions of songs might be another topic altogether. I'm a huge Echo & the Bunnymen fan, but after having seen time live multiple times over the past 25 years I almost can't hear them do 'Nothing Lasts Forever' anymore as Ian McCulloch always makes it transition into a Walk On The Wild Side cover and back again, and it was fine for one time but otherwise it really doesn't add anything to the song other than taking time.
― Valentijn, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 20:51 (one year ago) link
But of course the classic answer is Tangerine Dream's "Birth of Liquid Plejades"
I won't argue with your taste, but have you really encountered this opinion elsewhere? The microtonal cello quartet is a brilliant opening, but I think that all the sections of this music are beautifully proportioned.
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 8 September 2022 01:52 (one year ago) link
Altrockchick otm
Um Girassol Da Cor De Seu Cabelo” (“A Sunflower the Color of Your Hair”): I have mixed feelings about this piece, though I think the song itself is quite lovely, both melodically and lyrically. Here’s what lyricist Mârcio Borges had to say about the song’s origins:(the song is) the fanciful narrative of a bus trip I made with my girlfriend, whom I would one day marry. It was the first time we traveled together. I rested my head on her lap, looking closely at the details of her blue jeans dress. Through the window the radiant sun filled the bright blue sky. And I lay there declaring eternal love. Sunflower was my favorite flower, and it all made sense.Grasse, Jonathon. Milton Nascimento and Lô Borges’s The Corner Club (33 1/3 Brazil) . Bloomsbury Publishing. Kindle Edition.What he is describing is a sweet and gentle moment between two lovers in the nascent stages of a relationship. The music captures that loveliness through the first verse and chorus with Lô Borges singing the simple melody in a soft voice as he plays piano with a light touch. When his supporting cast enters (Rubinho on drums, Beto on bass, Tavito and Nelson Angelo on guitar), they do so subtly and quietly, so as not to disturb the tender moment.The first sign of trouble comes at the start of the next verse when arranger Eumir Deodato introduces “silvery strings” that create a sound that is either a high-pitched violin filled with air or an extremely poor example of flute technique. The sound is terribly grating, so much so that I lose all connection to the flow. My suspicions concerning Deodato’s questionable choices are confirmed by the jarring appearance of what Grasse calls “an orchestral interlude of expressionistic, cinematic proportions, smearing those silvery background strings into an angst-ridden cloud dissonantly answering the lover’s question, ‘ou será que é tarde demais?’ (‘or will it be too late?’).” Talk about an overreaction to a simple question! Grasse goes gaga over the arrangement (he has a tendency to go gaga with annoying frequency); I would describe it as a classic example of the arranger absconding with the song. The up-tempo coda that follows might have worked had it not been for the orchestral intrusion; as it is, it feels like a failed rescue attempt. Deodato arranged some of the other pieces on the album but none are as obviously out of sync with a song’s content as this one.
(the song is) the fanciful narrative of a bus trip I made with my girlfriend, whom I would one day marry. It was the first time we traveled together. I rested my head on her lap, looking closely at the details of her blue jeans dress. Through the window the radiant sun filled the bright blue sky. And I lay there declaring eternal love. Sunflower was my favorite flower, and it all made sense.
Grasse, Jonathon. Milton Nascimento and Lô Borges’s The Corner Club (33 1/3 Brazil) . Bloomsbury Publishing. Kindle Edition.
What he is describing is a sweet and gentle moment between two lovers in the nascent stages of a relationship. The music captures that loveliness through the first verse and chorus with Lô Borges singing the simple melody in a soft voice as he plays piano with a light touch. When his supporting cast enters (Rubinho on drums, Beto on bass, Tavito and Nelson Angelo on guitar), they do so subtly and quietly, so as not to disturb the tender moment.
The first sign of trouble comes at the start of the next verse when arranger Eumir Deodato introduces “silvery strings” that create a sound that is either a high-pitched violin filled with air or an extremely poor example of flute technique. The sound is terribly grating, so much so that I lose all connection to the flow. My suspicions concerning Deodato’s questionable choices are confirmed by the jarring appearance of what Grasse calls “an orchestral interlude of expressionistic, cinematic proportions, smearing those silvery background strings into an angst-ridden cloud dissonantly answering the lover’s question, ‘ou será que é tarde demais?’ (‘or will it be too late?’).” Talk about an overreaction to a simple question! Grasse goes gaga over the arrangement (he has a tendency to go gaga with annoying frequency); I would describe it as a classic example of the arranger absconding with the song. The up-tempo coda that follows might have worked had it not been for the orchestral intrusion; as it is, it feels like a failed rescue attempt. Deodato arranged some of the other pieces on the album but none are as obviously out of sync with a song’s content as this one.
― The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 8 September 2022 02:00 (one year ago) link
yeah you didn't play my link apparently
― link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, September 5, 2022 12:11 AM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink
yeah, sorry. your joke was better but in truth i hate the whole fuckin song, even the curtis amy part
― budo jeru, Thursday, 8 September 2022 04:41 (one year ago) link
"Our Lips Are Sealed" – the bridge is a total whiff!
― west coast heat dome blues (morrisp), Thursday, 8 September 2022 23:52 (one year ago) link
Faust - Jennifer; the old timey saloon piano at the end.
― Chris L, Friday, 9 September 2022 00:45 (one year ago) link
I did a song when I was 19 where I ripped that bit off under the auspices of an Andy Partridge 'gear change'
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:36 (one year ago) link
I mean there's almost nothing it can do that won't be an anticlimax after the song proper, so why not, it has bathos at least
― imago, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:37 (one year ago) link
It's fantastic, weirdly poignant
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:40 (one year ago) link
Captain Sensible - Glad It's All Over. Absolutely gorgeous sounding but on some listens the stupid lyrics get in the way a bit too much
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:41 (one year ago) link
That too xp
― imago, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:44 (one year ago) link
Bee Gees "I Close My Eyes", a perfectly lovely piece of 1967 pop-psych with a bizarre piercingly-annoying wordless vocal hook at the end of each chorus
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:59 (one year ago) link
― Chris L, Thursday, September 8, 2022 7:45 PM (five days ago) bookmarkflaglink
awww I like that bit. though I don't really consider it part of the proper tune
the Faust one that comes to mind for me is that squeaky backwards organ feedback at the end of "Miss Fortune" - always have to turn it down because it really does hurt my ears
― frogbs, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 17:09 (one year ago) link
Elvis Costello once wrote that at one time, any song of his that had any potential for sweetness needed to be given the harshest possible treatment. I think he was talking about "Deportee."
Anyway I have never felt that it was necessary to have "Man Out of Time" begin and end with the double-time distorted outtake spliced in. Your opinion may differ. The song would have been fine.
― the floor is guava (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link
"Captain Sensible - Glad It's All Over. Absolutely gorgeous sounding but on some listens the stupid lyrics get in the way a bit too much"
Literally every single King Crimson song with lyrics would be much better without lyrics. I would love that band if they had never had a singer ever. Or if the lyrics were sung in Sigur Ros' Hopelandic. Or Magma's kobaian. Or if they were whistled.
For that matter ELP's oeuvre is ruined for me by Keith Emerson's keyboard playing and Greg Lake's singing and guitar and whatever other instruments he played e.g. harmonica or banjo or whatever. If someone remastered their albums so that they were just Calm Palmer drumming and nothing else they would be fantastic.
― Ashley Pomeroy, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 18:39 (one year ago) link
check out "Tank" on the 1st ELP album, might be your jam
― frogbs, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link
I’m not…. super crazy about the slow spooky horror music of “children of the grave”, but I accept I’m wrong
― brimstead, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 19:01 (one year ago) link
horror music SECTION I mean, with the organ or whatever
Half-inclined to add the “Wot’s ‘e like?” in “Buffalo Stance.”
― The self-titled drags (Eazy), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 19:30 (one year ago) link
Outro to Queen's "Seven Seas of Rhye" where they go into a rendition of "Oh I Do Like To Be Beside The Seaside". I know it's a segue into the intro of the first track on the following album, which is a pretty good trick, but it's still crap.
― born on the bayeux (Matt #2), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 19:39 (one year ago) link
Literally every single King Crimson song with lyrics would be much better without lyrics.
Agree with this 100% (and I really like Greg Lake's voice, but KC's lyrics were jabbering nonsense at best, jabbering sexist, homophobic nonsense at worst).
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 19:50 (one year ago) link
Runnin Blue by the Doors would maybe be my favorite Doors tune if weren't for Krieger's cod hillbilly chorus break down barf
― chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 20:00 (one year ago) link
Great example
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 23:39 (one year ago) link
I think Jimmy Buffett's "Come Monday" is a great song, except for the "I can't help it honey..." bridge which is so completely nails on a chalkboard to me that I'll pull my earbuds out and just skip that part of the song altogether.
― Lear, Tolstoy, and the Jack of Hearts (Lily Dale), Thursday, 15 September 2022 04:02 (one year ago) link
I could really do without the spoken word poetry break in the Doors' "Peace Frog." Way to kill a groove. Only 16 seconds long but I want to snip it out so bad.
― Josefa, Thursday, 15 September 2022 14:33 (one year ago) link
"Ducks On a Pond" by the Incredible String Band is actually three songs in a row: one great, one fine, one terrible. I understand the thematic relation between the parts, but most of their "good-timey" stuff falls flat for me.
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 15 September 2022 17:03 (one year ago) link
I almost mentioned that song earlier. I also hate the "Keep the home fires burning" part of their song "Darling Belle" which, otherwise, is one of the best and most affecting things they ever did.
― Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Thursday, 15 September 2022 19:32 (one year ago) link
I opened this thread and immediate hit ctrl+F to search for "Eyes Without A Face". The 'rocking out' is less of an issue than the rapping.
― Publicradio (3×5), Friday, 16 September 2022 14:09 (one year ago) link
Lol it’s not great but neither that nor the rapping ruins the song for me.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 16 September 2022 14:50 (one year ago) link
Not terrible but the 'Leeeeee...eeeeeeisure' in XTC's Le(eeeeee...eeeeee)isure would benefit from only appearing once
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 20 September 2022 04:45 (one year ago) link
Half-inclined to add the “Wot’s ‘e like?” in “Buffalo Stance.”― The self-titled drags (Eazy), Tuesday, September 13, 2022 8:30 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
― The self-titled drags (Eazy), Tuesday, September 13, 2022 8:30 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
WOT?!
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 09:38 (one year ago) link
I've never come to terms with the drum break in 'like a motorway' that interrupts the sleek night driving synths at least two too many times.
― ledge, Tuesday, 20 September 2022 13:20 (one year ago) link
_Half-inclined to add the “Wot’s ‘e like?” in “Buffalo Stance.”― The self-titled drags (Eazy), Tuesday, September 13, 2022 8:30 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink_WOT?!
― Ride On Proserpina (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 13:25 (one year ago) link
"Going to California"
― Sam Weller, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 08:22 (one year ago) link
(Was only half-inclined with “Buffalo Stance” — maybe I’ll come around!)
― The self-titled drags (Eazy), Tuesday, 27 September 2022 12:19 (one year ago) link
BREATHE DEEPTHE GATHERING GLOOM(*click*)
― Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 14:17 (one year ago) link
i wouldn't say it's "terrible" per se but the extremely jaunty intro to "girlfriend in a coma" always cracks me up. my wife and i couldn't agree if it's riffing on disco or country but it does feel out of place, even with the rest of the upbeat instrumentation of the song.
― na (NA), Tuesday, 27 September 2022 14:23 (one year ago) link
whenever i see this thread title my brain parses "terrible section" as meaning like a part of an orchestra like string section or woodwind section
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 14:49 (one year ago) link
that sounds like a Zappa thing
― frogbs, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 15:01 (one year ago) link
Hahaha!
― Ride On Proserpina (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 27 September 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link
The Beach Boys - It's Getting Late is a lumpen Huey Lewis type chorus mixed with gorgeous rising-and-falling verses
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 21:11 (one year ago) link
It might just be me but I’ve always found the middle “Father, forgive me” bit of Pet Shop Boys’ “It’s a Sin” a bit of a slog. It seems musically and lyrically ordinary in an otherwise fantastic record.
― houdini said, Monday, 3 October 2022 13:23 (one year ago) link
The original album version of "Moonchild" by King Crimson. Every time I listen to it, I am tempted to create my own edit.
― beard papa, Monday, 3 October 2022 18:02 (one year ago) link
Could really do without the “meow meow meow meow” bit in Luna’s “Moon Palace”
― JoeStork, Monday, 3 October 2022 21:55 (one year ago) link
Feel the need to defend many examples brought up in this thread, but I have the exact opposite opinion of the "father, forgive me" section in "It's a Sin" - beautiful musically and lyrically, crucial to the song, even
But you did remind me of a PSB bridge I really don't like in an otherwise good song: the "everybody's got to live together" section in "So Hard"
― Vinnie, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 00:46 (one year ago) link
ok if we're gonna talk about bridges how about "Orinoco Flow". its such a cool New Age single because it's so brisk and catchy, unlike what you would expect from the genre. there's nothing else like it. so why not just stick a slow tuneless part in the middle just to ruin the flow
― frogbs, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 03:19 (one year ago) link
ruin the orinoco flow you could say!
no I agree actually. The best thing about it is that when the chorus returns it sounds even better
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 04:22 (one year ago) link
...but it's great because it blurs out like that then comes back even better! You're like, "oh, is that all the candy I get?" Then you get some more.
― bendy, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 19:44 (one year ago) link
It does run the risk of throwing away the momentum though. It's lucky it doesn't imo
There was a really good youtube cover of Primal Scream's Slip Inside This House (i.e. based on their version not 13FE) which is gone now I think but in the middle it went into this sparse fusty breakbeat bit and it sort of spoiled it.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 22:00 (one year ago) link
No problem with "Crash Into Me" being a permanent CVS staple, but the sing-songy "I'm the king of the castle" toward the very end grates on me.
― The self-titled drags (Eazy), Thursday, 6 October 2022 16:35 (one year ago) link
Just heard the chopsticks part of "Blinded By The Light" in a Starbucks and was reminded how it could be clever hearing it the first time, but grating if it's now part of a background-music song.
― The self-titled drags (Eazy), Thursday, 6 October 2022 21:56 (one year ago) link
Completely agree!Several Doors songs have already been mentioned here, there are probably more - I think the Soft Parade title track may also be an example, but I'm not entirely sure how to dissect that one. I think the spoken-word "petition the lord with prayer" opening is just embarrassing. The "let me give you sanctuary" bit, I find one of their most beautiful moments. I do think it's a good thing that it flows into different directions, but I'm not so keen on the segment that follows. It works for me again when it picks up with the "welcome to the soft parade" part. Not sure about the last section. Overall, it feels to me like it should have been their masterpiece, but fails.
― Valentijn, Friday, 7 October 2022 07:32 (one year ago) link
I still thought to mention the crying children in 'The Kids' by Lou Reed. It may fit the theme, strengthen the meaning, add to the atmosphere and whatever, but -even if it's pretty short- it's really not fun to listen to. It also puts negative weight on the entire album for me: I'm rarely in a mood to put it on simply because it is the album with the crying kids.
― Valentijn, Friday, 7 October 2022 07:37 (one year ago) link
Bob Ezrin never misses an opportunity to get wailing, yelling or chanting children in his productions.
― Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 9 October 2022 01:24 (one year ago) link
otm
― Askeladd v. BMI (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 9 October 2022 01:27 (one year ago) link
opening 2 minutes or so of The Fiery Furnaces “Benton Harbor Blues.” Like, it’s the Fiery Furnaces so it’s kinda to be expected, but they had a hook so good they had to just throw “Benton Harbor Blues - Again” at the end of the album to knock off those annoying parts.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Sunday, 9 October 2022 01:46 (one year ago) link
That’s nothing compared to the high-pitched whistle in “Whistle Rhapsody” (…not that I consider either of these to qualify as “great songs,” but they sure would’ve been better)
― Linkin Bio (morrisp), Sunday, 9 October 2022 02:45 (one year ago) link
I suggested a superfluous middle-8 the last time around and I was just reminded of another. (Or, strictly speaking, a middle-16, which doesn't really even switch to new material, musically...)
David + David's "Welcome to the Boomtown" has a flaccid 30 seconds, 3:30 in, partly to accommodate the spoken verse "the ambulance arrived too late/I guess she didn't want to wait". Impossibly corny, but having mainly heard a (wisely) edited video version in adulthood, I didn't even recall this fabulous song being marred so regrettably.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 9 October 2022 08:20 (one year ago) link
For those who mentioned "Eyes Without A Face," (which is the first song that came to mind when reading the thread title) here is an edit I made a few years ago that cuts out the guitar solo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU1Yolk9TXg
At the time I considered going on an Edit Crusade and making a bunch of these bridge-cut edits. The only other one I did was New Edition - "If It Isn't Love." If anyone is interested, I'll dig it up.
― mom, Friday, 14 October 2022 15:02 (one year ago) link
Xxposts: Fiery Furnaces have so many of these where there’s a brilliant pop song somewhere but you have to pass through sections that are not very pleasant on repeated listens or haven’t aged very well.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 14 October 2022 18:06 (one year ago) link
i don't know how many would rank it a "great" song, but "Good" by Better Than Ezra undergoes a huuuuge quality drop for the duration of its short, oft-forgotten and totally shapeless guitar solo. yuck!
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 22 December 2022 05:30 (one year ago) link
maybe not a great song, but it's at least a good song
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 22 December 2022 14:21 (one year ago) link
It may not be Better Than "Good", though
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 22 December 2022 15:38 (one year ago) link
I don’t hate it as much as some do but Jay Z’s spot in Kanye’s Monster almost brings the track to a screeching halt, it doesn’t help that the track itself is very long, editing his verse would probably make it better.But then we’d lose this meme masterpiece of him just listing monsters:
this was incredible btw, exactly what I needed this AM
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 22 December 2022 15:38 (one year ago) link
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, September 1, 2022 7:29 PM (seven months ago)
While I'm not necessarily an Einar hater, I gotta say that the chorus of "Hit" is so transcendent ("I lie in my bed / Totally still..."), and the Einar section so banal/irritating, that the song def. qualifies for this thread for me.
― morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Thursday, 27 April 2023 20:24 (eleven months ago) link
Heart of the Sunrise, at 6:52
― Xgau Murder Spa (nikola), Sunday, 30 April 2023 01:32 (ten months ago) link
Maybe, but it's sort of effective the way it plays off the main riff. I first heard the song on the Classic Yes compilation, where they cut off the recapitulation of "We Have Heaven" at the end, and it's never sounded right to me the way it is on Fragile.
― Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 30 April 2023 01:49 (ten months ago) link
Yeah not really sure what part you’re referring to, that game show like keyboard bit?
― frogbs, Sunday, 30 April 2023 01:54 (ten months ago) link
― Xgau Murder Spa (nikola), Sunday, 30 April 2023 12:41 (ten months ago) link
oh, you know, you wind up in all kinds of places when you're lost in the city.
― No, 𝘐'𝘮 Breathless! (Deflatormouse), Sunday, 30 April 2023 19:18 (ten months ago) link
second post OTM, that j cole verse has one of the worst lines in rap history
sort of an inversion of the OP and a jump off of the second post but jeremih - i think of you is a song with only one great section, the first minute is amazing until the guests totally ruin in
― Vapor waif (uptown churl), Sunday, 30 April 2023 21:47 (ten months ago) link
I like that part in Heart of the Sunrise but yeah its kinda corny and weird
― frogbs, Sunday, 30 April 2023 21:49 (ten months ago) link