Like, I've got 3 of the 8 versions of "Sing song", 1,3 and 8 - does anyone out there in ILM-land have the others and can we make a complete set?
And how come Warners refuse point blank to re-issue "Space mate" (which I missed buying in 1986 and deeply regret ever since)
And how come they just kind of disappeared into the art world after all those strange concept albums?
So - any info on their whereabouts? Any opinions, CDs, or anything at all?
― Rob M (Rob M), Monday, 25 November 2002 21:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
Check out Tony Jordan's site at http://www.suddensway.freeserve.co.ukIt should tell you everything you need to know.
There's also a Yahoo! group (there are nine members - care to bring us into double figures?)
!!!
I wish they'd re-release Spacemate too. And '76 Kids Forever for that matter.
― Zanny Gognet (Zanny Gognet), Tuesday, 26 November 2002 09:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 17 November 2003 13:35 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 17 November 2003 13:41 (twenty years ago) link
I did have a complete set of the "Singsong" singles, sold them but kept a tape which I found the other day.
The twelve inch version picked three versions, which ones I don't know.
I remember hearing "Let's Evolve" on Peel when the 12" was issued. I remember thinking "SHUT UP!!!"
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 18 April 2005 09:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 18 April 2005 09:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― everything (everything), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 20:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― mark e (mark e), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link
My cover has no tracing paper but has another cover printed on the inside. Some sort of (possibly invented) reggae artist I think.
― everything (everything), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― mark e (mark e), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 21:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― mark e, Sunday, 22 April 2007 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― Bimble, Sunday, 22 April 2007 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― mark e, Sunday, 22 April 2007 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― Bimble, Sunday, 22 April 2007 18:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― Bimble, Sunday, 22 April 2007 18:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― mark e, Sunday, 22 April 2007 19:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― Bimble, Sunday, 22 April 2007 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― stirmonster, Sunday, 22 April 2007 19:11 (seventeen years ago) link
― mark e, Sunday, 22 April 2007 19:12 (seventeen years ago) link
― Bimble, Sunday, 22 April 2007 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― mark e, Sunday, 22 April 2007 19:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― Bimble, Sunday, 22 April 2007 19:19 (seventeen years ago) link
Once again, can anyone help me find Spacemate? I found two tracks on s1sk but the person who had them doesn't seem to ever be on anymore.
― Bimble, Saturday, 15 September 2007 20:07 (sixteen years ago) link
Bump at a better hour for maximum Brit exposure.
― Bimble, Sunday, 16 September 2007 06:18 (sixteen years ago) link
Well okay it's 7:30 am there, but at least I'm getting closer.
Yeah, I'd like to know/have this too.
― Mark G, Monday, 17 September 2007 09:35 (sixteen years ago) link
It's okay I talked to the guy who had it last night but once again before I knew it he was gone. He'll come back.
― Bimble, Monday, 17 September 2007 22:16 (sixteen years ago) link
I'll hunt out the tape of the eight singsongs at some point.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 08:48 (sixteen years ago) link
I worry about what state my copy of this is in - it's in my mum's house somewhere. O Copper Eskimo!
― Tom D., Tuesday, 18 September 2007 08:51 (sixteen years ago) link
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/A-Sudden-Sway-Spacemate-Box-Set-with-inserts-books_W0QQitemZ130157861676QQihZ003QQcategoryZ58622QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
― Mark G, Monday, 1 October 2007 10:16 (sixteen years ago) link
Hmm, doesn't that box set bear a passing resemblance to the Radiohead box?
― Mark G, Monday, 26 November 2007 14:04 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh, and I got the 12" of Sing Song the other day.
Version 8 on the a-side. Funny, if you look around, version 8 seems to be the only 7" version you can find!
(I did have all eight singles, bought as a set, back in the day. I did tape them all, will have to dig that cassette out!)
― Mark G, Monday, 26 November 2007 14:06 (sixteen years ago) link
I worry about what state my copy of this is in - it's in my mum's house somewhere
It is in my mum's house but i fear the box and insets are long gone... anyway brought the album down to London to listen to, what a great album! "Ah Metal Blossom"! "Drink Extravite"! "Official Sway Look"! This must be re-released! Someone!
Also had a good listen to "'76 Kids Forever": the music's not as good as the concept and to appreciate the full majesty of the track "Barmy Army", you really need the single version. "Ko-Opera" is fairly poor, boring music (apart from "Byron Chocolotheoria") and I don't know what it's actually about, I think have forgotten.
Also a shame the 'Hypnostroll' Peel Session was never released.
― Tom D., Saturday, 5 January 2008 12:53 (sixteen years ago) link
I actually did find Spacemate after all, but it didn't hold my interest, sadly. Maybe I just wasn't in the right mood.
― Bimble, Monday, 7 January 2008 06:56 (sixteen years ago) link
:(
― Tom D., Monday, 7 January 2008 14:04 (sixteen years ago) link
And I still haven't found that cassette.
― Mark G, Monday, 7 January 2008 14:08 (sixteen years ago) link
I did find a web page with all eight versions on a 'streamplay'
but you can get the mp3s off yr temporary space if you do.
Also, just got a promo 12" single MEDIA/RETAIL which tells more! (or does it?)
― Mark G, Friday, 4 April 2008 14:22 (sixteen years ago) link
"Don't bring us up, Mum On anything else, Mum The Project Program So we're grown up When we're young, Mum!"
― Tom D., Tuesday, 22 April 2008 12:55 (sixteen years ago) link
I've lost my mind over their 1982 7" which I never even knew existed until now. Christ.
Bimble still loves you
I remember the day I found that EP of theirs called "To You With Regard". I found it in a Philadelphia record store. I was absolutely aghast cause I never thought I'd find it. This was extra weird because I actually saw a guy in that store who I knew from my hometown which was 2 hours away. This is what it was like, folks. I had to drive 2 or more hours to find the records which are so easily available through you computers. But yeah it was weird, I saw this guy at the store flipping through records like me, and I knew him from my hometown 2 hours away by car. I never really knew him all that well, though.
― Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Sunday, 4 May 2008 22:20 (sixteen years ago) link
I had to drive 2 or more hours to find the records which are so easily available through you computers.
What I mean is now you find them through computers, but then you had to FUCKING GET IN A CAR AND DRIVE
― Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Sunday, 4 May 2008 22:22 (sixteen years ago) link
anyway if no Brits respond to this thread revival I shall revive in the morning
― Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Sunday, 4 May 2008 22:30 (sixteen years ago) link
good grief ! all 8 versions of sing, Song online : here
― mark e, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 08:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Can you save them though?
― Tom D., Wednesday, 21 May 2008 08:26 (fifteen years ago) link
Yes, if you play them, the mp3 files can be found in your temporory internet files space.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 08:27 (fifteen years ago) link
ha. as ever, mark g on the case. so which one is the Adrian Sherwood version ?
― mark e, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 08:28 (fifteen years ago) link
I remember the day I found that EP of theirs called "To You With Regard".
I've got TWO copies! I remember reading, years ago, about that "Traffic Tax Scheme" single + game + computer programme + whatever, but I never thought I'd ever hear it!
― Tom D., Wednesday, 21 May 2008 08:29 (fifteen years ago) link
so which one is the Adrian Sherwood version ?
i'm guessing "s-o-o-h-s-i-n-g" ?
― mark e, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 08:30 (fifteen years ago) link
I can't get them to play on the computer I'm on at the moment, but I'll try it later on another one.
― Tom D., Wednesday, 21 May 2008 08:32 (fifteen years ago) link
Found an old tape of the 2nd Peel session when I back up at my mum's house last month - result!
"Delegates of COSETECH, all systems are positively and negatively balanced!"
― Tom D., Wednesday, 21 May 2008 08:37 (fifteen years ago) link
The Adrian Sherwood version is "m-i-x-x-s-i-n-g"
C'mon!
― Mark G, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 08:38 (fifteen years ago) link
ahh . i never got around to that one .. here goes ..
― mark e, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 08:45 (fifteen years ago) link
ah ha .. of course.
― mark e, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 08:46 (fifteen years ago) link
A little while ago, I tried to collect all 8. (I used to have them all as a pack, shrinkwrapped together, that I got at a record fair)
The funny thing was, every one for sale on GEMM or e-bay, was always V8, i.e. the Andy Hill version that maje it to the album, eventually.
The 12" was of V8 on the a-side, and one of the others on the b-side with the 'message' track as per the single.
I suspect the 8 version pack was purely issued as promo, and the shops only got the 'commercial' version. It even had been made using that 'direct press ink/relief label' that was around at that time.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 08:50 (fifteen years ago) link
OK, having listened to them all, I realise I've heard 5 of them before, tho it's maybe more amazing that I remember them!
― Tom D., Wednesday, 21 May 2008 13:35 (fifteen years ago) link
Mark G...can you be a little more specific about that Temp Internet Files folder? I'm on Windows XP and tried this last night...did a search but couldn't find anything that looked like the Sudden Sway tracks.
Anyway I don't have time to catch up with this thread right now so sorry if this has already been discussed in more detail.
― Bimble, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 13:41 (fifteen years ago) link
... I got to them by opening Tools / Internet Options on the browser and then Settings for Temporary Files and then View Files - that's from memory, can't do it on the computer I'm on now
― Tom D., Wednesday, 21 May 2008 13:45 (fifteen years ago) link
the temp folder is by default a hidden directory. However, under IE7 options you can open the directory quite easily. Tools > Internet Options > Browsing History > Settings > View Objects Now order the listing by type - and voila ! a bunch of mp3s should be listed .
[xpost !].
― mark e, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 13:51 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh yeah, that's what I did, but explained a lot better!
― Tom D., Wednesday, 21 May 2008 13:54 (fifteen years ago) link
The 12" single was the V8 Andy Hill 'commercial' version, which made it to the album. b-side was an instrumental version, and the 7" bside 'marketing message' b-side.
There was also one Retail/Media promo 12"
Posted, mainly because of finding this;
http://castlesinspace.blogspot.com/2009/01/sudden-sway-spacemate.html
― Mark G, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 16:37 (fifteen years ago) link
Found myself wondering whatever became of Michael McGuire when I stumbled across his interesting pre-Sudden Sway history, specifically the punk band The Now, who recorded a reunion album in 2005!
― Tom D (Tom D.), Sunday, 13 February 2011 13:46 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIrdrzeyK6M
― Tom D (Tom D.), Saturday, 13 April 2013 09:13 (eleven years ago) link
Thatcher's Britain!
― Tom D (Tom D.), Saturday, 13 April 2013 09:17 (eleven years ago) link
Revive, because I just bought a "Spacemate", the box a bit shab but its all in one piece, and everything is in it, MVEBerwick Street, £10 can't be bad.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 15:35 (nine years ago) link
A while ago I finally got some decent mp3s of Ko-opera after finding out it was released on cd which somehow I missed. Fucking great album. And someone recently put the whole thing on youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCKaA6-H7ew
― everything, Saturday, 13 February 2016 00:58 (eight years ago) link
I'm still looking for the 12" single of remixes for not daft price.
― Mark G, Saturday, 13 February 2016 01:13 (eight years ago) link
The "Between You and Me" one? I wish. I wish I had everything by them on vinyl.
― everything, Saturday, 13 February 2016 01:25 (eight years ago) link
I have pretty much the lot on nice CDR discs, labels and art done.
I did a 4 disc 'spesh' on that Spacemate set, 1 per side, with the 'singsong' set as disc 5,
― Mark G, Saturday, 13 February 2016 13:32 (eight years ago) link
wow score, median £77.50 on Discogs! that album is brilliant, I only listened to this band in the last couple of years and it's strange how little talked about they are for how good they were
― Colonel Poo, Saturday, 5 October 2019 22:46 (four years ago) link
As an aficionado of punk stuff, Colonel, I wonder if you're aware of Michael McGuire's pre-Sudden Sway punk band the Now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDdD0FoLtQk
― Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Saturday, 5 October 2019 23:21 (four years ago) link
yes, I have their Fuzztone Fizzadelic compilation - but I had no idea there was a connection between the 2 bands before!
― Colonel Poo, Sunday, 6 October 2019 10:44 (four years ago) link
I remember Let's Evolve from it being on peel and then on a tape I listened to a lot after grabbing bits off his show.I think the studio sound was pretty different wasn't it?
― Stevolende, Sunday, 6 October 2019 10:49 (four years ago) link
I've never heard the Peel session but it looks like it was from 1983 - they did a couple of singles 81-82 then there's a gap from 83-86, so maybe they changed their sound during that hiatus?
― Colonel Poo, Sunday, 6 October 2019 11:00 (four years ago) link
Oh man, you HAVE to hear the two Peel sessions.
― Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Sunday, 6 October 2019 11:15 (four years ago) link
I remember tuning into that peel session 2 minutes into "Let's Evolve" and thought it rub.
Obviously, I have it now (the cassette single because trendy, 50p recently), its OK.
― Mark G, Sunday, 6 October 2019 14:28 (four years ago) link
It's good but it's getting better.
― Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Sunday, 6 October 2019 14:29 (four years ago) link
aher heh heh woine bar aher heh heh cosy place between town and countroy
― Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Sunday, 6 October 2019 14:33 (four years ago) link
Just when i thought nobody cared, i found this thread..
Every couple of years i have the 'i wonder what SuddenSway are up to now' thought, and the last time that happenedi went down a 'where is Mike McGuire' rabbithole and i found this:
https://www.surrey.ac.uk/people/michael-mcguire
certainly looks like himso i sent him an email to see if he knew anything about sudden sway,this was his reply
"Nothing is impossible.
Even logical contradictions can be accommodated, according to the dialetheist."
so there's that :)
― gladbeast, Thursday, 13 February 2020 14:01 (four years ago) link
Just from the photograph, it's him. Senior Lecturer in Criminology!
― High profile Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 February 2020 18:03 (four years ago) link
... and if you needed any more proof.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpWbCjz1lxA
― High profile Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 February 2020 18:08 (four years ago) link
Oh my giddy aunt...(sits down to watch video like it's the new single)
I burst out laughing as soon as i heard the voice, good work, how many sway references can you invent? Love that the screenshot is very Spacemate. I think this an elaborate scheme for the 23 remaining sudden sway stans.
― gladbeast, Sunday, 16 February 2020 14:40 (four years ago) link