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love this band. straight up grateful dead worship

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_If3DIdKYs

flopson, Thursday, 14 May 2020 05:40 (three years ago) link

Absolutely one of my favorite bands going right now, but I honestly think the Dead comparison gets oversold. There's definitely some influence there, but I also hear lots of other stuff in their sound as well. That "One Step Behind" track is so great, a half hour track that absolutely earns the running time. I should have been seeing them again last week at Schuba's, really sad to have missed them since their last trip through Chicago was an abbreviated set opening for Hand Habits, still slayed though.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 14 May 2020 14:43 (three years ago) link

i simply cannot get over their name. and in the first single i heard (which i mostly enjoyed) were lyrics about 'slipping into a dark star...' which really didn't help matters

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 14 May 2020 17:49 (three years ago) link

i actually never got into the dead and listening to GP got me wondering ‘are the grateful dead actually this good?’ lol

Hope to someday see them live, in like 2035 or whenever

flopson, Saturday, 16 May 2020 20:28 (three years ago) link

whoa PG Six is in this band. makes me more curious.

mizzell, Saturday, 16 May 2020 23:48 (three years ago) link

this band rules, loved One Step Behind and also their live album with Chris Forsyth from this year

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Saturday, 16 May 2020 23:51 (three years ago) link

I kinda hated them at first honestly, feel like the least of the new indie jam but the new album was a lot better and the thing with Forsyth is great but obv he's just a next level guitar player

the name is maybe the worst band name ever

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 16 May 2020 23:58 (three years ago) link

matt whos the best of the new indie jam iyo

flopson, Sunday, 17 May 2020 00:02 (three years ago) link

Sunwatchers (can't really say enough about this band)
Chris Forsyth/Solar Motel Band
Rose City Band
David Nance Group
later Ryley Walker
75 Dollar Bill
Wilco live shows (Nels on Impossible Germany live is the new Dark Star)

honestly though I really have to give it to GP I thought the second album was really a ton better and tbh I sort of resented the name and how the WFMU Conklin types seemed to have such an interest in pushing them so I'm not unbiased

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 17 May 2020 00:15 (three years ago) link

cool gonna listen to all those. love ryley walker

flopson, Sunday, 17 May 2020 01:39 (three years ago) link

also to shamelessly self promote, global t & I are in a band together Cassini and we opened for Forsyth, for sure check out the recording of him, was temporary lineup with Doug McCombs of Tortoise on bass

https://southernjukeboxmusic.com/home/forsyth-cassini-iosis

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 17 May 2020 01:57 (three years ago) link

Can't really hang with the GP vocals/lyrics, and similarly have found Forsyth's efforts on that front pretty distracting from the things he does well. Chris is a really good guitar player, and hits sweet spots for me relatively frequently, but yeah there is something about each that doesn't land all the time for me.

grandavis, Sunday, 17 May 2020 05:32 (three years ago) link

I think Steve Gunn's bands hit some good spots in this terrain, but they hit a little lighter on the "jam" side of things. Based on Steve's latest record, and what I have heard of Cassini, I am very excited to see where that goes. Very promising!

grandavis, Sunday, 17 May 2020 05:34 (three years ago) link

i actually like the band name. the recordings are ok (newest one better than older stuff, imo) but i saw them open for Howlin' Rain and was dreadfully bored. i'd say maybe it was just my mood but Howlin' Rain blew me away / far exceeded my expectations.

Sunwatchers runs circles around GP.

alpine static, Sunday, 17 May 2020 05:38 (three years ago) link

To me Sunwatchers (and 75 Dollar Bill too) are not in the same arena/related to aspects of "indie jam." I would imagine that they might appeal to folks into GP, but yeah they pull in a whole other set of influences and operate on a higher level (imo). Sunwatchers live run circles around most bands trying to play related music to be honest, they are just fucking a great live band.

grandavis, Sunday, 17 May 2020 05:47 (three years ago) link

worse band name than mr twin sister

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Sunday, 17 May 2020 07:49 (three years ago) link

i'd add mountain movers to the list ums posted. more on the noisy side, but great sprawling psych

https://themountainmovers.bandcamp.com/album/mountain-movers-2017

global tetrahedron, Sunday, 17 May 2020 16:34 (three years ago) link

i saw mountain movers open for howling rain and found the latter dreadfully boring in comparison haha

and sunwatchers are amazing live. they have a recent live official 'bootleg' out

global tetrahedron, Sunday, 17 May 2020 16:35 (three years ago) link

Sunwatchers runs circles around GP.

― alpine static, Sunday, May 17, 2020 1:38 AM (eleven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

ok so i listened to this band and, I’m not saying they’re bad bc they’re obv pretty great, but skronky free jazz rock isn’t what i get out of garcia peoples so idg the comparison other than ‘improvisation’

flopson, Sunday, 17 May 2020 17:26 (three years ago) link

i don’t think the band name Garcia Peoples is bad. if it’s bad it’s bad in a fun low-stakes way that jibes with the carefree attitude and shameless influence

flopson, Sunday, 17 May 2020 17:28 (three years ago) link

what do you get out of GP? just curious

global tetrahedron, Sunday, 17 May 2020 17:52 (three years ago) link

lighters in the air, sun-soaked roadtrip vibes, hippie americana

flopson, Sunday, 17 May 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link

I'm listening to their live set from 10/10/19 in NYC (it's on Spotify), it's a trip. Bearing in mind the first song is almost 50 minutes long. I'm not totally sure how much Dead I hear in this, but admittedly I'm not overly familiar with the Dead. Not to mention the first twenty minutes was in fact free jazz skronk. Well, maybe not skronk, but it was electric guitar and saxophone (played by maybe the dude's dad? how cute), kind of reminded of the gentler moments of "The Creator Has a Master Plan."

Revolutionary Girl Utrenja (Tom Violence), Sunday, 17 May 2020 18:21 (three years ago) link

definitely check out rose city band then- ripley johnson project

global tetrahedron, Sunday, 17 May 2020 18:22 (three years ago) link

xp yeah GP do have free sax jams (like the first 8 minutes of the full length version of one step behind) but it's gentle not hard skronk

flopson, Sunday, 17 May 2020 18:26 (three years ago) link

definitely check out rose city band then- ripley johnson project

― global tetrahedron, Sunday, May 17, 2020 2:22 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

thx, will do

flopson, Sunday, 17 May 2020 18:26 (three years ago) link

been listening to ryley walker - primrose green last couple days and man, if u time-travelled to the 70s and showed someone that album they wouldn't blink

flopson, Sunday, 17 May 2020 18:30 (three years ago) link

i'd start with their S/T although the new one is great too

global tetrahedron, Sunday, 17 May 2020 18:30 (three years ago) link

i thought about mentioning Mountain Movers but didn't ... but yeah, they rule. their sister band Headroom, too.

also i didn't really mean to imply that Sunwatchers and GP are all that similar ... I was just trying to say Sunwatchers are awesome

alpine static, Sunday, 17 May 2020 21:58 (three years ago) link

I guess I don't see all jam having to descend from the Dead but I see what you mean

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 17 May 2020 22:44 (three years ago) link

There is definitely some cool crossover going on right now between a lot of these bands, even those that aren't "jam bands", like Garcia Peoples backing up Forsyth, Hans Chew and Ryan Jewell playing with One Eleven Heavy, and Matt Valentine openings up for Garcia Peoples.

I'd add Dire Wolves (Just Exactly Perfect Sisters Band) to the list, Jeffrey Alexander used to be in Jackie-O Motherfucker and, I think, played with Suburned Hand of the Man.

There's a line traced through the freak folk and noise scenes that loops back around to some of these newer bands which definitely pushes them away from the derisive image of a jam band. I mean, Dire Wolves get plenty heady and cosmic, but I don't think they have a lot of direct Dead DNA either. Stuff like 75 Dollar Bill, Elkhorn and Matt LaJoie fall into this in my mind, though they all come at it from different angles. It's all kinda centered around labels like Beyond Beyond is Beyond and Feeding Tube Records and as noted, Jeff Conklin at WFMU is a big supporter of this kinda stuff (but i like his taste a lot, seemed he was mentioned a little derisively upthread).

I mean, all this stuff is right up my alley and I'm pretty much a big fan of every artist brought up itt so far, so take me with a grain of salt.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 17 May 2020 23:54 (three years ago) link

Peter Kerlin from Sunwatchers is also (or was for a long time) in Solar Motel too

I kinda mentioned Conklin backhanded, I like his taste and his show was great I dunno sometimes he comes off a little gatekeeperish to me but he's great overall

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 17 May 2020 23:58 (three years ago) link

Elkhorn is a great call, should have mentioned them!

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 17 May 2020 23:59 (three years ago) link

dire wolves and just exactly perfect sisters band are both direct dead references though. brian lucas of the former says he spent his formative years on dead tour in the 80s

global tetrahedron, Monday, 18 May 2020 04:56 (three years ago) link

Sure, the names are direct Dead references, but I don’t hear a whole lot in their songs themselves that can be directly attributed to Dead songs. I don’t doubt the Dead are a formative influence, but I know folks that can’t stand the Dead but like Dire Wolves.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 18 May 2020 05:01 (three years ago) link

heh I'll have to check Dire Wolves, just don't know why these bands have to choose names that sound like Dead tribute bands that play bars in a middling state university college town

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 18 May 2020 18:20 (three years ago) link

i haven't quite fallen under the spell of GP, though I agree that their last record (or just the epic that makes up most of it) is my fave thing I've heard them do thus far. so i think they probably have good stuff ahead of them.

tylerw, Monday, 18 May 2020 18:41 (three years ago) link

sunwatchers are so good, like a free jazz meat puppets.

tylerw, Monday, 18 May 2020 18:41 (three years ago) link

Wow otm!!^^

doktor forstus (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 18 May 2020 19:54 (three years ago) link

Yeah, Sunwatchers are killer.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 18 May 2020 20:18 (three years ago) link

not like sunwatchers but i think folks in this thread might appreciate this band

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6B3KbePQAI

global tetrahedron, Monday, 18 May 2020 20:58 (three years ago) link

Another great band/album! I'll second Tonstartssbandht for sure.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 18 May 2020 21:00 (three years ago) link

yeah, they rule ^ not so much this convo, but Edwin from Tonstartssbandht has a project called EOLA where he does weird-ass psychedelic vocal-loop spiritual "future hymns" ... i fuckin' love it: https://eola.bandcamp.com/album/dang

i really think there's an interesting piece to be written about jammy bands breaking through the indie/press glass ceiling to where they're now considered "cool" ... the quality and growing number of bands are part of it, of course, but so is Conklin and Beyond Beyond is Beyond and one or two hip publicity firms, and now it's moved up into the Vampire Weekend / Steven Hyden world. this stuff could never have gotten the kind of love they're getting even 5 years ago, i don't think. and Garcia Peoples was the canary in the coal mine, imo.

alpine static, Monday, 18 May 2020 23:46 (three years ago) link

It's a fuckn drag to me that there's a whole scene of white dudes who wanting to play/listen to longform jamz that could be jamming to the intricate and groove-centric arrangements of Funkadelic, Fela Kuti, Electric Miles, Ornette Coleman, Can, Isaac Hayes, Neu!, Herbie Hancock, Flash and Bambaataa tapes, Zulu Beat Radio, whatever, but instead they're like "What if jam bands but Union Pool"

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 18 May 2020 23:55 (three years ago) link

Bedford Cheese Shop Incident

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 18 May 2020 23:56 (three years ago) link

Whiney you should check out this band called Phish

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Monday, 18 May 2020 23:58 (three years ago) link

where is your past

peace, man, Monday, 18 May 2020 23:59 (three years ago) link

you should actually listen to Sunwatchers and 75 Dollar Bill before doing your usual parachute in to call people stupid routine

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 00:04 (three years ago) link

or the best part of the new Garcia Peoples is closer to Neu than the Dead really

but anyway thanks for those cool obscure references no one on ILX ever heard of and congrats on your Wire subscription

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 00:07 (three years ago) link

sad

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 00:13 (three years ago) link

you should actually listen to Sunwatchers and 75 Dollar Bill before doing your usual parachute in to call people stupid routine

lol!

calstars, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 00:35 (three years ago) link

you should actually listen to Richard Pictures before doing your usual parachute in to call people stupid routine

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 00:39 (three years ago) link

Yeah, it was a really rough day when I bought that 75 Dollar Bill record and they told me I had to immediately burn my copy of Jack Johnson.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 02:07 (three years ago) link

Funkadelic, Fela Kuti, Electric Miles, Ornette Coleman, Can, Isaac Hayes, Neu!, Herbie Hancock, Flash and Bambaataa tapes, Zulu Beat Radio

This Heat, Pere Ubu, Outsiders, Nation of Ulysses, Mars, The Trojans, The Black Dice, Todd Terry, the Germs, Section 25, Althea and Donna, Sexual Harrassment, a-ha, Pere Ubu, Dorothy Ashby, PIL, the Fania All-Stars, the Bar-Kays, the Human League, the Normal, Lou Reed, Scott Walker, Monks, Niagra, Joy Division, Lower 48, the Association, Sun Ra, Scientists, Royal Trux, 10cc, Eric B. and Rakim, Index, Basic Channel, Soulsonic Force ("just hit me"!), Juan Atkins, David Axelrod, Electric Prunes, Gil! Scott! Heron!, the Slits, Faust, Mantronix, Pharaoh Sanders and the Fire Engines, the Swans, the Soft Cell, the Sonics, the Sonics, the Sonics, the Sonics

flopson, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 05:49 (three years ago) link

kool herc peoples

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 06:14 (three years ago) link

Typically uninterested in neo-psych guitar-jam bands but inspired by this thread I checked out One Step Beyond by Garcia Peoples and I liked it. I get as much Feelies (and at one point, The Band) from them as I do the Dead but I definitely hear the Dead thing too. Don't know what 75 Dollar Bill has to do with any of these other bands, though. They're leagues apart imo, at least based on some cursory listens to some of the other jammy bands named in this thread

As to Whiney's point, my hunch is that a lot of these bands actually do aspire to the heights of the artists he names but most can't pull it off, which is not really a criticism because, come on, who the fuck can pull off Fela or Can or Ornette better than Fela, Can, or Ornette? This is also, by the way, why I resist listening to neo-psych guitar-jam bands: life is short and I'd almost always rather go to the source. I mean, there are a lot of electric Miles bootlegs out there

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 10:42 (three years ago) link

It's a fuckn drag to me that there's a whole scene of white dudes who wanting to play/listen to longform jamz that could be jamming to the intricate and groove-centric arrangements of Funkadelic, Fela Kuti, Electric Miles, Ornette Coleman, Can, Isaac Hayes, Neu!, Herbie Hancock, Flash and Bambaataa tapes, Zulu Beat Radio, whatever, but instead they're like "What if jam bands but Union Pool"

― The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, May 18, 2020 7:55 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

There could be an interesting discussion about the differences/similarities between strands of jam and current bands tapping into them (or not) but, as usual per latter-day ILX, it's couched in box-canyon zings where no discussion is required or wanted.

Laziest Sybarite in the World (PBKR), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 12:16 (three years ago) link

Though Bedford Cheese Shop Incident is B+. Good job.

Laziest Sybarite in the World (PBKR), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 12:18 (three years ago) link

Tangentially related and somewhat tying these ideas together, someone put together a 20+ minute live jams playlist on Spotify that does indeed have Dead, Phish, electric Miles, Velvet Underground and Can on it. Starts out promising, but then of course it devolves into some of the worst jam imaginable - Twiddle, Goose (both of which I'd successfully avoided until now), Disco Biscuits, Aqueous, String Cheese Incident and Umphrey's McGee.

Twiddle is the worst of the worst though, imagine someone strangling Dave Matthews over some of the laziest, least imaginative "jamming" possible.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 13:50 (three years ago) link

flopson v cool bands 😎

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:31 (three years ago) link

Peter Kerlin from Sunwatchers is also (or was for a long time) in Solar Motel too

he is a secret weapon in both imo -- always holding things together when they spiral out. i esp like his playing on the long track of the Forsyth/Solar Motel/Garcia Peoples live album. i love the second track on that album too -- afaict a uniting factor of these bands is that they are aiming at some sort of transcendence, which i think we all have the musical right to do, and they occasionally reach it. GP covering Popol Vuh was enjoyable to a certain degree (if very by-the-numbers) but the vocals left something to be desired imo.

my only gripe about this general type of band is there are too many men in these bands. the women only came in to sing. my long-awaited (by me) plan to record a women-only instrumental Can-jam was squashed by the rona :( maybe someday

i don't expect anyone else to care about this but as a woman i wouldn't mind some more femme musical energy in the mix.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:41 (three years ago) link

oh no that would help it's a dude scene for sure

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:45 (three years ago) link

like bring some meg baird, elisa ambrogio, ava mendoza in the mix and i think i could stay interested instead of getting a tiny bit bored. just sayin

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:49 (three years ago) link

looking forward to the upcoming marisa anderson + jim white album but that is a very special combo

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:51 (three years ago) link

yeah that's like the most anticipated album in ilx brigade history! was so glad I got to meet her and tell her how much I loved her music even if I was probably a dork

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:55 (three years ago) link

For sure, there are way too many dudes in these bands. I was surprised by the ratio of women at the Garcia Peoples show I saw at Schuba's, but it would be great to see that reflected in the band line-ups. It's interesting that a lot of the women that do overlap with this scene (Kendra Amalie, Sarah Louise), primarily pursue their own solo projects.

Also, La Lechera otm with Garcia People's vocals, def a weak link.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:56 (three years ago) link

in general vocals ain't exactly the best feature of any bands in this zone

Baird is great, she sounds should be the lead singer of all these bands

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:58 (three years ago) link

That would not be bad, she's great.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:59 (three years ago) link

What happened to Heron Oblivion? She was singing and drumming in that band. When I saw them, I was not disappointed or bored and her presence and energy really did change the dynamics of this particular type of rock music.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 15:02 (three years ago) link

don't know actually!

on the latest Forsyth he has a vocal by Rosali (her album Trouble Anyway is great but but really this scene) anyway, it sounded so good over his stuff

love the guy but his singing is not great

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 15:06 (three years ago) link

Last I heard of Heron Oblivion was a set NYC Taper shared from December of 2018, that was pretty heavily loaded with "new" material. I've been hoping that means a second official album, but I haven't heard anything lately. That self-titled record was fantastic.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 15:07 (three years ago) link

think there's a new heron oblivion in the works, new meg baird solo album as well ... she kinda goes at her own pace, haha.

Bedford Cheese Shop Incident it A+, thank you Whiney. Park Slope Toodle-oo?

tylerw, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 15:31 (three years ago) link

Probably of interest to some of the folks in this thread, Aquarium Drunkard has put together a 44-track digital comp to raise money for Australian brushfire relief. Includes MV & EE, Dire Wolves, Hans Chew, Nathan Salsburg, Elkhorn, Starbirthed, Sarah Louise and many, many others.

https://dropbearbenefit.bandcamp.com/album/the-drop-bears-song-an-australian-bushfire-relief-album

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 17:51 (three years ago) link

& our very own global tetrehedron!

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 18:51 (three years ago) link

Oh man! I totally didn't grok that when I scanned the tracklist, thanks! Track number 15, no?

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 19:07 (three years ago) link

Indie jam pioneer Steve Palmer

tylerw, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link

steve hyden deserves the blame, not steve palmer

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link

Oh shit, sorry.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 19:49 (three years ago) link

ha no, that's me, i just disavow 'indie jam', nomenclature of steven hyden

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 20:04 (three years ago) link

I didn't really dig that article felt very weird leaving out, say, Built to Spill...I dunno just felt he had this handful of bands he wanted to write about and bent the narrative around that

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 20:10 (three years ago) link

ppl in this thread should check out spencer radcliffe

sleight return (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 20:17 (three years ago) link

LL if you're cooling yr heels waiting for a new Heron Oblivion album you might enjoy this Major Stars album from last year that's got similar vibes (though I think Wayne Roger's p easily outclasses the Comets guys, which is fine though bcz as cool as much as I like Noell Dorsey she's no Meg)

Anyways ahem
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kRqnadeeODjA4nu5Ort8I3ZRDTW_yvBvA

doktor forstus (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 20:25 (three years ago) link

(Also I'm pretty sure one of the guitarists is one Kate Biggar)

doktor forstus (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 20:28 (three years ago) link

that's cool
speaking of Comets on Fire, I think their unloved at the time Avatar seems ahead of this curve in retrospect

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 20:34 (three years ago) link

major stars is a good call. no dead influence there, more like if MC5 was a jam band. all the magic hour stuff is worth it too ...

tylerw, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 20:38 (three years ago) link

yeah i am enjoying Major Stars! that is the type of energy i am after at the moment -- thanks!!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 20:51 (three years ago) link

they're super gnarly!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 20:51 (three years ago) link

I like Major Starts, but I totally spaced on their record from last year. Need to check that out!

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 20:58 (three years ago) link

Stars obviously, oops.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 20:58 (three years ago) link

La Lechera, should be noted that Kryssi Battalene is the main guitar-wrangler in Mountain Movers and Headroom (mentioned above), who bring some nice Heroin Oblivion/Major Stars adjacent sonics, though directly. She is great, pretty partial to this one: https://headroomnhv.bandcamp.com/album/head-in-the-clouds

She also has a cool Black Dirt / Natch session as "Earth Cult" with Sarah Louise and Sally Ann Morgan (of House & Land) that I am into: https://blackdirt.bandcamp.com/album/natch-11-earth-cult-sarah-louise-sally-anne-morgan-kryssi-b-2

Sarah Louise has also sat in with Garcia Peoples, and I imagine will do so again down the line. (Completing the circle ....)

grandavis, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 21:19 (three years ago) link

as I've said in the Fahey thread (or maybe I didn't) the song "Statesboro Jam" from global tetrahedron's 2020 album is maybe my favorite song of the year so far, certainly within this general sonic world.

alpine static, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 00:46 (three years ago) link

anyway, i smell a Rolling Don't Call It Indie-Jam 2021 thread cookin'

alpine static, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 00:47 (three years ago) link

yeah we generally did all this stuff on the Fahey thread, which I generally approve of a "big tent" definition of the diaspora esp cuz so many like Forsyth, Ryley Walker come from that scene orginally

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 00:56 (three years ago) link

Wilco live shows (Nels on Impossible Germany live is the new Dark Star)

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown)

any particular recordings you can recommend, i haven't heard a live version since a radio broadcast from the netherlands in 2011

i am unequipped to really speak on the new jam scene except that i god tried to listen to that song and for the first ten minutes it was mediocre kosmische-jazz and then i got bored and skipped forward and yep that sounds like the dead alright. i guess they're better than the flaming lips.

i'm listening to the eight minute "single" version now. they sound like, i don't know, white denim. they're not bad, but i genuinely think the dead did it better when they were on.

i might be sold on these folks another time.

Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 01:09 (three years ago) link

I actually don't, I have seen them a couple of times in the last 5 years and hadn't seen them for a long time and was kind of blown away by what a good live band they are now

but I guess they've probably done 200+ shows a year forever

Impossible Germany is I'm pretty sure almost every show and is Nel's showcase

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 01:12 (three years ago) link

last time he was going off and Tweedy got a laugh just by looking Nels then looking at the crowd and grinning and shaking his head like can u believe this guy?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 01:13 (three years ago) link

i know Wilco is not cool but they ultimately have one of the best drummers in the world and one of the best guitar players

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 01:14 (three years ago) link

i know they're not cool too but i have heard them a couple times over the years and i agree with you that they have become a fucking incredible live band, i'd rather listen to them than 75 dollar bill or endless boogie or whoever damn near any day of the week

they still doing "bull black nova"? i kinda liked that one.

Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 01:17 (three years ago) link

that's cool
speaking of Comets on Fire, I think their unloved at the time Avatar seems ahead of this curve in retrospect

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, May 19, 2020 4:34 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

i put this on recently after many years. what a great record.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 01:18 (three years ago) link

xpost here was the show i went to, really cool Low opened and came up to do Cinnamon Girl with Wilco in the encore

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 02:10 (three years ago) link

lovin Rose City Band, thx for that rec

flopson, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 05:06 (three years ago) link

Rose City Band has such a great vibe, glad that wasn't just a one-off thing for Ripley.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 13:51 (three years ago) link

really enjoy the new one, but there's a track on the last half with a riff that sounds like the black keys. small quibble though

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 16:42 (three years ago) link

haha would that be Reno Shuffle? that's my least favorite one. I love the moment with the vibraslap on the second track.

mizzell, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link

Other than a couple of tracks I caught on WFMU, haven't actually heard the new one yet - waiting for the delayed physical release next month.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 16:53 (three years ago) link

digging Dire Wolves so far ty to whoever mentioned them

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 16:55 (three years ago) link

They're great, actually just got a package of CDRs in the mail that I bought on the bandcamp no fee day, includes the new Flow & Heady and a few other live sets.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 16:57 (three years ago) link

yes it's reno shuffle. bracing for dan auerbach to start singing

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 16:58 (three years ago) link

Dire Wolves is very dynamic rhythmically which gets at something about Garcia Peoples, they are pretty stuff rhythmically without being either cool motorik vibes or cool pummeling caveman Endless Boogie/Crazy Horse

the drums and bass are just kinda "there"

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:14 (three years ago) link

Which DW album are you listening to, ums?

weekly shopper helper (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 21 May 2020 03:17 (three years ago) link

Grow Towards the Light (liked the cover art)

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 21 May 2020 15:50 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

New album in October:

https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a4250120573_10.jpg

Really excited to hear where they go with this one, given that there are 12 tracks I'm fairly certain they won't be back with another side+ long epic.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 6 August 2020 16:23 (three years ago) link

Considering the lengths of some of the other albums I've been listening to in 2020, it may be 6 LPs of sidelong epics.

King SunnO))) Adé (Tom Violence), Thursday, 6 August 2020 20:25 (three years ago) link

Haha, but apparently this is a single LP only, thought it's a song suite it sounds like.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 6 August 2020 20:26 (three years ago) link

the cover vaguely reminds me of this one h.c. westermann print

budo jeru, Friday, 7 August 2020 02:52 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

This new one is so good. The first half is surprisingly darker than what I'd expect. Not like they've gone goth or anything, just more of an edge than I'd expect from them, but it works. The guitar playing is just so great.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 October 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link

yeah i think i need some physical copies of things, sound pretty good

Stevolende, Friday, 9 October 2020 19:46 (three years ago) link

This is continuing to grow on me, love the instrumental interludes that tie together the suite on the second side. “A Reckoning” is fast becoming a favorite, got a real nice Fairport Convention vibe and love the two guitar acoustic intro.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 11 October 2020 20:27 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

Aquarium Drunkard EOY list brought me here. Good stuff!

o. nate, Thursday, 17 December 2020 16:31 (three years ago) link

New one is so good and varied.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 17 December 2020 16:37 (three years ago) link

Definitely. Closest analogy I can think of is Dungen 4, another great and varied album.

o. nate, Thursday, 17 December 2020 16:51 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

We don't have a dedicated thread for their label, Beyond Beyond is Beyond, and I'm not sure it's worth a whole new thread... but RIP BBiB:

After 8 bonkers years, I’m leaving ye olde record label, Beyond Beyond is Beyond, behind in 2021. It’s been a dream to work with all the amazing artists we’ve released records with. ✌️♥️ 🎶

— mikenoomin (@mikenoomin) February 23, 2021

Really bums me out, they'd been a roll lately with Garcia Peoples of course, but also Tengger, Elkhorn, Kendra Amalie, Matt Valentine and De Lorians, to name a few.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 15:20 (three years ago) link

Oh man, I misread this yesterday as a guy leaving the label, not ending the label. This is a bummer! Tengger is my faaaaave...

alpine static, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 16:00 (three years ago) link

Yeah, that's what I was hoping it was, but reading through the replies it looks like the label is done, sadly. I guess it makes sense, considering they hadn't announced any forthcoming releases since the last Garcia Peoples record came out last October.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 16:03 (three years ago) link

Yeah I noticed after a busy couple years, things seemed to have quieted down quite a bit. Oh well ... it was a good run, and that label in particular did a lot for the indie/psych/jam resurgence.

alpine static, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 16:05 (three years ago) link

seven months pass...

Dodging Dues, new album due out in January, produced by Matt Sweeney and released by No Quarter since BBiB closed shop.

https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a2846999757_10.jpg

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 21:30 (two years ago) link

Good news.

o. nate, Wednesday, 6 October 2021 13:55 (two years ago) link

Three preview tracks up at bandcamp are excellent, I'm stoked.

https://garciapeoples.bandcamp.com/

They are playing in Chicago next weekend (they were actually the last show I saw before the pandemic kicked off) but with an unvaxxed kid at home I'm not ready for an indoor show quite yet. Hopefully they hit the area again on a tour after this comes out.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 October 2021 14:04 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

New one is very very good, tighter and more concise than the stage show, but they still manage to pack so much into every song.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 24 January 2022 15:49 (two years ago) link

Very nice. Starting the year off right.

o. nate, Monday, 24 January 2022 21:47 (two years ago) link

six months pass...

Rather than starting a new thread for an album that maybe only three people will care about, I'm going to bump this to say that fans of Garcia Peoples will probably very much dig the debut full-length from Color Green. The closer, "Blizzed Out" is really great and hits a similar vibe for me. Liking this a lot.

https://colorgreen.bandcamp.com/album/color-green-2

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 5 August 2022 21:30 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

Ryley Walker is putting out Danny Arakaki's solo album, Tumble in Shade, in January on his Husky Pants label.

Pretty heady lineup for this one:

Danny Arakaki - Guitar/Vocals
Ryan Jewell - Drums/Percussion
Mike Bones - Guitar
Chad Laird - Bass
Samara Lubelski - Violin (on "All Thanks")
Andi Magenheimer - Vocals (on tracks 1, 2, 4, 7)
Helen Rush - Vocals (on tracks 3&4)
Winston Cook-Wilson - Piano/Organ/Rhodes
Jef Brown - Saxophone
Rachel Herman - Violin
Dan Iead - Pedal Steel/Guitar

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 15:59 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

^^

This is out Friday, but my copy came yesterday. It's really good.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 20:11 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Great sound and a blistering live performance of a good chunk of "Dodging Dues":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtG5e7JKYx8

o. nate, Saturday, 4 February 2023 20:23 (one year ago) link

love these dudes. danny's new record is really good too.

ian, Saturday, 4 February 2023 23:30 (one year ago) link

finally checking these guys out. just wow.

ꙮ (map), Sunday, 5 February 2023 00:18 (one year ago) link

The Arakaki solo record is fantastic — just a really great rock record.

tylerw, Sunday, 5 February 2023 00:36 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

Missed this revive, but yeah that's a great performance. Loving the new Arakaki album and still bummed I had to miss the GP/Forsyth tour due to life stuff.

Also been really getting into Taper's Choice lately, on that "indie-jam" tip.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 16:16 (one year ago) link

They really were not good live when I saw them recently which was a bummer because I was expecting great things. Part of it was the sound at the venue (bad) and part of it could have been my general mood that day (not great) but they didn’t really seem all that into it either and the vocals can be a little rough.

zacata, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 19:27 (one year ago) link

i saw them about a month ago and didn't come away super impressed tbh. they are a band i should like on paper.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 20:00 (one year ago) link

'vocals are rough' comes with the dead/any dead adjacent act, something i'm willing to overlook if the jams are good, which,

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 27 April 2023 01:20 (one year ago) link

if they weren't called 'garcia peoples' i might like them. maybe

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 27 April 2023 01:22 (one year ago) link

I also saw them a few months ago & wasn't particularly impressed after having previously dug a couple sets of theirs on the archive. Just figured that my expectations were too high, but maybe they've fallen off a bit as of late.

BrianB, Thursday, 27 April 2023 01:47 (one year ago) link

I haven't caught them on the recent tour, bummed to hear they haven't been great. The two times I saw them pre-pandemic were absolutely killer. I've caught a couple tapes of other shows from 2021 and 2022 that were good, but not much has been circulating yet from the most recent tour.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 27 April 2023 15:23 (one year ago) link

Can’t decide whether I love or hate this band name. I go back and forth.

tobo73, Thursday, 27 April 2023 16:00 (one year ago) link

they did suffer a bit from following Chris Forsyth, his band has Doug McCombs from Tortoise and Ryan Jewell as the rhythm section and they give him a really strong almost krauty vibe, Forsyth can verge on guitar mag stuff at times for me, but he's a much better soloist than anyone in Garcia Peoples (at least that night)

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 27 April 2023 16:06 (one year ago) link

Not surprised to hear that, makes sense.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 27 April 2023 16:53 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

Finally got to see them again tonight, in a nice small space. They sounded great, played almost all new material - apparently “figuring out what the next album wants to be”. Heard new stuff with some Allman style twin guitar, thought decidedly less southern rock, and one with some great choogle.

PG Six opened on solo harp, it sounded fantastic.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, 11 May 2024 03:46 (two hours ago) link


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