Post all festival and tour cancellations here. Feel free to also post cancellations of film festivals, conferences, art exhibits, readings, and anything else art or music related. At the very least, it might help those who've already secured event tickets, plane fare, hotels, or babysitters make alternate plans.
So far:
SXSWCoachella (postponed?)Big Ears
Heard a few rumors about some bands cancelling upcoming tours but as none of it is official or public yet, I'll wait to post those for now.
I don't really know how touring works. Does anyone know if it is more likely to be clubs and promoters cancelling dates or the artists themselves? If the former, how will small venues survive potentially 6 months (or more) of quarantine? I realize there are bigger fish to fry at the moment but this is likely to be potentially devastating to a lot of people we probably all know.
― Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 12 March 2020 00:01 (four years ago) link
Bunch of DC venues are suspending all their remaining shows for March: https://wtop.com/entertainment/2020/03/imp-postpones-events-at-930-club-the-anthem-lincoln-theatre/
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 12 March 2020 00:21 (four years ago) link
The rest of Houston Livestock Show & Rodeo, which features some of the biggest Country shows around (amongst other stuff--Lizzo was gonna do homecoming show on Friday) was cancelled today.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 12 March 2020 00:36 (four years ago) link
sort of hoping drive by truckers cancel this weekend so I don't have to make the decision n myself.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 12 March 2020 00:38 (four years ago) link
Dark Mofo, a nationally prominent music'n'arts festival in Hobart, Tasmania: https://darkmofo.net.au/statement
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 12 March 2020 00:58 (four years ago) link
All gigs with audience larger than 250 are banned in Washington state. Todd Barry and Bikini Kill shows axed in the next few days.
― Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Thursday, 12 March 2020 01:22 (four years ago) link
I don't really know how touring works. Does anyone know if it is more likely to be clubs and promoters cancelling dates or the artists themselves?
For non-USA artists, Coachella and SXSW are big tentpole festivals that tours are based around - a spot on Coachella pays enough to make the visa expenses (a massively huge up front expense) worth it to make up for the tight margins for other gigs. Altin Gün and Anna Calvi both had some US dates around Coachella - Altin Gün cancelled everything yesterday, Calvi presumably will shortly (which is frustrating because Calvi had postponed her US shows last year because she got the Coachella gig)
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 12 March 2020 01:32 (four years ago) link
Canadian comics arts festivals as yet uncancelled, by request of health authorities: http://www2.vancaf.com/2020/03/11/update-to-the-comics-community-regarding-covid-19-from-tcaf-and-vancaf/
― Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Thursday, 12 March 2020 02:03 (four years ago) link
NAB and E3 conferences cancelledhttps://e3expo.comhttps://news3lv.com/news/local/national-association-of-broadcasters-conference-in-las-vegas-postponed
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 12 March 2020 02:22 (four years ago) link
Pixies have cancelled the rest of their Aussie tour after someone at a festival they headlined tested positive. (Also 12,000 people at that festival so it will be way more than 1)
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 12 March 2020 02:24 (four years ago) link
A list of cancellations.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/every-coronavirus-cancellation-adam-sandler-000222436.html
― nickn, Thursday, 12 March 2020 02:43 (four years ago) link
Stereolab canceled the China/Japan/Philippines leg of their tour a few days ago.
― with hidden noise, Thursday, 12 March 2020 02:47 (four years ago) link
What makes me sad is that two good friends who were in separate amateur theatrical productions had their shows cancelled after rehearsals for months.
One just moved out of state and had no friends and had just been through a fairly traumatic ordeal a year earlier and this project was helping her feel better about things. Now she's crushed.
Other friend going through a bad depression bout and it was having a similar positive effect on her.
Both get why it needed to be done but it's rough.
We're determining if the 2020 Orlando Fringe will happen now. It's in May, but i am not optimistic. We're in rehearsals
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 March 2020 03:04 (four years ago) link
https://pitchfork.com/news/coronavirus-updated-list-of-tours-and-festivals-canceled-or-postponed-due-to-covid-19/
― Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 12 March 2020 11:24 (four years ago) link
TMBG rescheduled the rest of their tour for the fall
― Vinnie, Thursday, 12 March 2020 11:32 (four years ago) link
https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/what-happens-when-a-music-festival-is-canceled-due-to-coronavirus/
"Artists will surely be counting on fans’ support even more than usual, perhaps through non-concert avenues like merch sales."
lol what
― Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 12 March 2020 12:14 (four years ago) link
First date of the Van der Graaf Generator tour (Athens, 28 March) cancelled, with probably more cancellations to come.
― the grateful dead can dance (anagram), Thursday, 12 March 2020 12:28 (four years ago) link
Yes just pulled out of their 'Cruise To The Edge' in Miami and some early tour dates, gigs are one thing but a Prog cruise with loads of old dudes all trying to shake yer hand is just asking for trouble.
― Maresn3st, Thursday, 12 March 2020 12:33 (four years ago) link
And as the elders beat their browsThey know that it's really far too late nowTo stop usFor if the sky is seeded deathWhat is the point in catching breath?Expel itWhat cause is there left but to die?
― strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Thursday, 12 March 2020 12:37 (four years ago) link
The Revealing Science of Pence
Torche have pulled out of their Euro tour so no Roadburn appearance, dunno if that festival can even go ahead if all the American doomsters self-isolate.
― akb23 (Matt #2), Thursday, 12 March 2020 13:49 (four years ago) link
Hi there
We're very sorry to announce that due to travel issues relating to the coronavirus, The Dead C have unfortunately had to cancel their forthcoming tour, including the residency dates at OTO in May.
We're working to reschedule this residency as soon as we can. The current situation is obviously a little uncertain concerning travel but we'll let you know details of the new dates as soon as we have them - all originally bought tickets will remain valid.
In the meantime, if anybody wants their tickets refunded we will of course be happy to do so - just give us a shout if that's the case.
All the best,Cafe OTO
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 12 March 2020 13:50 (four years ago) link
newsletter about how the virus is gonna affect the music industry
https://musicxcorona.substack.com/
― ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Thursday, 12 March 2020 14:04 (four years ago) link
Pop Conference, in which music writers, academics and ilx0rs gather annually to listen to each other read jokes and essays about music for three days, has been postponed from late April to TBD, maybe September.https://www.mopop.org/programs-plus-education/programs/pop-conference/
― Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Thursday, 12 March 2020 15:56 (four years ago) link
The Grand Illusion, a 70-seat volunteer-run arthouse cinema in Seattle, is closed until TBD, maybe April. (They had an 24-film A24 retrospective including several on 35mm scheduled for April, which one might expect to have paid the bills for a few months of Soviet and Romanian flicks)
― Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Thursday, 12 March 2020 16:04 (four years ago) link
The Juno Awards and a corresponding week of live events in Saskatoon have been cancelled in full.
― Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Thursday, 12 March 2020 16:10 (four years ago) link
Finally some good news
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Thursday, 12 March 2020 16:10 (four years ago) link
Well, my gig in London with my drone 'supergroup' at the end of this month (our first ever) has been cancelled, bah. Probably not a great loss to culture but still gutted.
― Maresn3st, Thursday, 12 March 2020 16:51 (four years ago) link
RRHoF induction ceremony postponed.
― Panic! At The Costco (morrisp), Thursday, 12 March 2020 17:37 (four years ago) link
Take that, Trent
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 March 2020 17:41 (four years ago) link
http://cultureaidnyc.com/resources-2/https://www.ncaper.org/https://docs.google.com/document/d/1htY4q6Aq2cg1OU7p2Q6i9x8EZy-aOxgLooUp6kgxZzw/preview?mc_cid=b4bd785659&mc_eid=15cfd7b5a8
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 12 March 2020 17:48 (four years ago) link
XP Countdown to the revelation that has all been an elaborate trolling of The Doobie Brothers.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 12 March 2020 17:59 (four years ago) link
ah, Lollapalooza Chile has been suspended.
for all those waiting to hear.
― Yerac, Thursday, 12 March 2020 18:44 (four years ago) link
Live Nation pulling all its tours off the road:
https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/touring/9333748/live-nation-global-pause-tours-concerts-coronavirus
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 12 March 2020 19:10 (four years ago) link
that's the ball game, really.
NYC is shutting down anything over 500 people and has ominous and unclear plans to restrict smaller gatherings. It's gonna be a rough few months.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 12 March 2020 19:11 (four years ago) link
Am I right in thinking that for any show scheduled between now and June that this is not an 'if' but a 'when' situation at this point re: canceling? I mean, at some point very soon anyone going forward with events is going to look reckless and arrogant, right?
― Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 12 March 2020 19:41 (four years ago) link
bowery n mercury close tomorrow
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 12 March 2020 19:41 (four years ago) link
Punk/industrial band L.O.T.I.O.N. just pulled their European tour
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 12 March 2020 19:46 (four years ago) link
Fennesz (who is here right now) just canceled the rest of his US tour.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 12 March 2020 19:46 (four years ago) link
I called the Blue Note jazz club an hour or so ago to verify whether the Christian Scott show I was planning to see tomorrow night was still happening. They told me it was, but that was before NY Governor Cuomo announced that gatherings of 500+ were banned, and gatherings below that number would have to reduce their attendance by 50%. (The Blue Note holds ~150 people.) I just emailed the publicist to take me off the guest list.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 12 March 2020 20:11 (four years ago) link
― Maresn3st, Thursday, March 12, 2020 7:33 AM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
covid or no i get an anxiety attack even thinking about this
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 March 2020 20:20 (four years ago) link
Horse Lords tour just canceled
― sleeve, Thursday, 12 March 2020 20:32 (four years ago) link
Decibel Magazine Tour canceled
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 12 March 2020 20:40 (four years ago) link
been spending the last week and half postponing a west coast tour that was to begin next week, and I can't tell you how hard it was. by march 1st it was clear to me the shows were not a good idea, but it took a week for the rest of the band to stop weighing the situation (varying degrees of financial hardship incurred), and even this weekend we kept getting feedback like 'all commercial venues still expecting you, smaller & mid-sized concerts still safe'. and I'd look at that text, then look at Italy expanding it's quarantine, and crunch the numbers and see SF at 10-14 days behind Italy
no one wants to over-react, but until better data starts coming in, we no longer know what over-reaction is. flattening the curve means social distancing for... twelve months? unthinkable, as recently as last week.
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 12 March 2020 20:50 (four years ago) link
silver lining, I had a ton of concert and festival tickets that I'm about to get refunds on, so unexpected influx of cash to pay my taxes with.
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 March 2020 21:22 (four years ago) link
First postponement for a ticket I held: Even As We Speak have deferred all their UK shows. 🙁 The postponement of Cologne Popfest makes the remaining dates no longer viable. Plus who knows what may transpire in next two weeks. Full statement on their Facebook page.
― Jeff W, Thursday, 12 March 2020 22:21 (four years ago) link
Decibel Metal and Beer Fest postponed but not cancelled.
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 March 2020 22:22 (four years ago) link
xp ah I was thinking of going to see EAWS in London soon, OTOH gigs are kind of painful for me at the moment and I already have one coming up so probably not so bad
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 12 March 2020 22:39 (four years ago) link
Guessing Limpe Fuchs on Saturday night in London will have less than 500 people in attendance so I may go, then again it only takes one carrier doesn't it
― akb23 (Matt #2), Thursday, 12 March 2020 23:00 (four years ago) link
Nice post by Big Thief #hippies
― Panic! At The Costco (morrisp), Friday, 13 March 2020 01:55 (four years ago) link
Yes' 'Cruise To The Edge' now postponed, Curved Air fans in apoplexy.
― Maresn3st, Friday, 13 March 2020 10:06 (four years ago) link
Is it any use me doing a sort of 'punter's pledge' saying I won't claim refunds on any cancelled upcoming shows I have tickets for?
― doorstep jetski (dog latin), Friday, 13 March 2020 10:48 (four years ago) link
Big list of global cancellations at the Graun:
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2020/mar/13/coronavirus-culture-arts-films-gigs-festivals-cancellations
― Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Friday, 13 March 2020 19:54 (four years ago) link
Record Store Day bumped to June.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 13 March 2020 20:12 (four years ago) link
Well at least something good came from this
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 March 2020 20:16 (four years ago) link
Yes, take that, already-teetering-on-the-brink-of-bankruptcy indie record stores hoping this event will help cover their rent for six months
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 13 March 2020 20:59 (four years ago) link
I do hate that indie shops are going to suffer, absolutely, but this just underscores how absolutely stupid and short-sighted it was to turn the entire record store industry into two days a year worth of exclusives that essentially exist only for flippers.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 13 March 2020 21:07 (four years ago) link
Seattle libraries had already cancelled programming and author events for March; as of 6pm all libraries are going to close for at least a month. This is going to have a major impact on homeless patrons: it's 3°C with snow mixing with rain today, and sub-zero night temperatures forecast over the next five days.
Some cinemas and rock venues are staying open but selling 50% of capacity for now; two seats-and-tables jazz venues are closing down for the month.
― Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Friday, 13 March 2020 21:10 (four years ago) link
record store day is a farce and fuck it
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 March 2020 21:11 (four years ago) link
more Seattle venues and nightclubs on staying open / closing down
https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2020/03/11/43118987/seattle-music-venues-respond-to-the-new-social-distancing-rules
― Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Friday, 13 March 2020 21:29 (four years ago) link
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, March 13, 2020 5:07 PM (nineteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
The windfall is not from the limited edition junk, though, but from the tremendous amount of non-RSD store stock sold when people inevitably bundle used items with new. RSD is lame and probably a pain in the ass for most stores, but I don't think you'll find a single remaining shop owner who doesn't count on that day in a big way to stay afloat. But yeah, fuck it, viva la spotify
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 13 March 2020 21:31 (four years ago) link
shut the fuck up
― sleeve, Friday, 13 March 2020 21:37 (four years ago) link
Dude, I didn't say fuck record stores. At all. I'm glad the day helps them! At the same time, I think it's clearly dangerous that it has evolved into the two days that force record stores to survive. And the stupid exclusives list is a big part of why it evolved in this direction.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 13 March 2020 21:39 (four years ago) link
(botched my wording there, meant to say "two days that solely allow" them to survive)
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2020-03-13/coronavirus-live-nation-aeg-concert-industry
― Panic! At The Costco (morrisp), Friday, 13 March 2020 22:19 (four years ago) link
I was so looking forward to seeing Wire tonight. Cancelled in Boston/Cambridge.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 13 March 2020 22:27 (four years ago) link
Strange.
― nickn, Friday, 13 March 2020 22:35 (four years ago) link
was excited to see shellac tomorrow but i imagine it's going to get cancelled. even if it weren't i don't know if i'd go. do the right thing, steve, and turn that PT cruiser back towards chicago...
― global tetrahedron, Friday, 13 March 2020 22:47 (four years ago) link
At this point maybe we should just list the shows that are still on
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 13 March 2020 23:25 (four years ago) link
Corey Haim - solo theramin
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 March 2020 23:27 (four years ago) link
shit I actually forgot he had died.
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 March 2020 23:28 (four years ago) link
Apparently Shellac is actually still playing tonight in Madison.
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 13 March 2020 23:29 (four years ago) link
Pro-Pain are defiantly insisting they're starting their US tour.
I guess there's no chance of 250 people giving a fuck about Pro-Pain in 2020
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 March 2020 23:30 (four years ago) link
in the entire US
shellac cancelled mpls finally. slightly bummed but i don't think it would have been fun anyway
― global tetrahedron, Friday, 13 March 2020 23:31 (four years ago) link
No specific need to update this thread now that everything except Reverend Horton Heat shows are cancelled, but the axing of Melbourne International Comedy Festival is going to bankrupt dozens or hundreds of people in one go.
― Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Monday, 16 March 2020 02:53 (four years ago) link
The Exploited also taking a defiant stance: https://ultimateclassicrock.com/reverend-horton-heat-exploited-coronavirus/
― Panic! At The Costco (morrisp), Monday, 16 March 2020 07:02 (four years ago) link
punk's gonna die
― Paul Ponzi, Monday, 16 March 2020 13:18 (four years ago) link
Can’t stop the blues: https://variety.com/2020/music/news/blues-awards-canceled-replaced-by-webcasts-1203540420/
― morrisp, Friday, 20 March 2020 18:58 (four years ago) link
Welcome to Rockville cancelled
Maryland Deathfest lineup moved to 2021
brutal year for music
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Saturday, 28 March 2020 02:56 (four years ago) link
That ucr link upthread is funny, suggesting at a glance the Reverend Horton Heat was exploiting the virus.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 28 March 2020 03:19 (four years ago) link
Anyone watching #IHeartConcertOnFOX right now?
― morrisp, Monday, 30 March 2020 01:03 (four years ago) link
Dead Can Dance officially pushed their Americas tour to 2021, was just a matter of time
― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Monday, 30 March 2020 01:20 (four years ago) link
I saw Billie Eilish with her brother. They killed it like you would expect. This is sort of neat
― Bee OK, Monday, 30 March 2020 01:34 (four years ago) link
I would have been seeing The 1975 in two weeks for the first time
― Bee OK, Monday, 30 March 2020 01:35 (four years ago) link
Demi Lovato looks healthy, good for her
― Bee OK, Monday, 30 March 2020 01:56 (four years ago) link
Mariah was a great closer*(*my autocorrect initially made this “cougar”)
― morrisp, Monday, 30 March 2020 02:02 (four years ago) link
I'm listening to/watching Keiji Haino doing an organ grinder performance at Zebulon from last year. Streaming only, I think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk6y2OnhwUo&feature=youtu.be
― nickn, Monday, 30 March 2020 02:28 (four years ago) link
Ah well.
― nickn, Monday, 30 March 2020 02:29 (four years ago) link
R.I.P. Alan Merrill (of the Arrows, etc.), who co-wrote "I Love Rock 'N' Roll": https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-52089768
― morrisp, Monday, 30 March 2020 16:39 (four years ago) link
Is his tour still going ahead, though?
― Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Monday, 30 March 2020 17:25 (four years ago) link
guilty lol
― Microbes oft teem (wins), Monday, 30 March 2020 17:29 (four years ago) link
Posted this in the wrong thread, but primavera sound are still insisting they are going ahead, just postponed till... summer. In fucking barcelona.
― Microbes oft teem (wins), Monday, 30 March 2020 17:30 (four years ago) link
xxp I’m resisting the idea of creating a separate thread for music-related COVID deaths; think this one will do as a catch-all (and can hopefully soon be retired).
― morrisp, Monday, 30 March 2020 17:35 (four years ago) link
probably best to confine to the standard RIP thread for a multitude of reasons (easier searching, extant need filled, we don't need another COVID thread polluting answers for people who are having a hard time dealing)Rolling Obituary Thread: 2020
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 30 March 2020 17:39 (four years ago) link
Thanks, I’ll just refrain from posting obits then, rather than be forced to visit ILE.
― morrisp, Monday, 30 March 2020 17:44 (four years ago) link
There is also a "famous sick and dead ppl Covid cases" thread on ILE you could bookmark and thus use without returning to the board - I'm avoiding it so can't link.
― Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Monday, 30 March 2020 17:59 (four years ago) link
Rolling COVID-19 Notably Infected and/or Fallen Thread
― Miami weisse (WmC), Monday, 30 March 2020 18:13 (four years ago) link
It's looking like mid-Fall is the new target for getting touring/large-ish shows going again? The big area indie venue has started announcing shows for then, including a rescheduled date w/a noted ilxor.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link
Said ilxor being Esteban Buttez of course.
I should clarify this is in America. Ymmv.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link
seems like too soon, there's zero chance I go to a concert or even a half-empty bar until I've got a positive antibody test or been vaccinated and I can't see either of those things being available (to me anyway) by October
― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 17:54 (three years ago) link
Psycho Las Vegas is in August and already moved back a year
― genital giant (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 20:33 (three years ago) link
Big Thief just canceled the rest of their shows for the year... their Hollywood show in August was my only one on the books.
― I eat fast foods (morrisp), Thursday, 7 May 2020 18:34 (three years ago) link
I noticed in that great Vulture interview w/Hayley Williams that her small venue tour has been bumped to next year.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 7 May 2020 18:36 (three years ago) link
NY Philharmonic cancelled through 2021.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 15:53 (three years ago) link
I'm seeing notices online that a handful of local venues are starting to go forward with small stakes shows (tribute bands, local performers) later this month.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 16:11 (three years ago) link
https://variety.com/2020/music/news/music-venues-foresee-permanent-closure-1234629793/
― Charging for Brewskis™ (morrisp), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 16:22 (three years ago) link
The Metropolitan Opera already cancelled through the end of the year too.
― Boring, Maryland, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 16:26 (three years ago) link
Yeah, we just lost Barracuda, where I saw LPD and Ex Hex (among others) last year... gonna miss that place. Don't want to think about what things will look like a year from now for live music venues in Austin.
― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 16:48 (three years ago) link
this is what i do for a living so you can imagine how i feel
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 19:11 (three years ago) link
Lollapalooza in Chicago was finally officially canceled this week.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 19:27 (three years ago) link
I miss live music so much that I've resorted to doing what I did when i was in college and couldn't afford to go to any.... watching live vids.
― Dig Dug the police (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 21:38 (three years ago) link
ACL Fest cancelled.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 16:28 (three years ago) link
"torn", surely
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 16:31 (three years ago) link
VMS Live venues the Welly and the Polar Bear shut their doors for good, as do Manchester's Gorilla and Deaf Institute
https://www.iq-mag.net/2020/07/two-vms-live-companies-enter-administration/
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 20:12 (three years ago) link
The Satellite / Spacelab in LA is converting to a gastropub after 25 years as a live venue, and Re-Bar in Seattle (mainly a DJ and drag and theatre and weirdo gay video arts, but some live music) has been forced out of one of the only remaining single-story buildings downtown, after 30 years - their neighbour in the building is a sandwich shop that opened in 1948. Nirvana held the Nevermind launch party there, and got kicked out for trying to get in the DJ booth.
― Steppin' RZA (sic), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 21:36 (three years ago) link
So it would appear that all the festivals are more or less back in force, with a few new additions. Different requirements for the ones I've seen, though (besides the standing requirement that they all feature the same bands). Pitchfork requires proof of vaccination or negative test *and* a mask, iirc, Lollapalooza requires proof of vaccination or negative test, *or* a mask. I think Bonnaroo is masks required (but no proof of vaccination or negative test). Riot Fest says "full compliance with local and state regulations regarding health screenings and mask mandates," which is non committal and probably takes into account that things may change again before September, anyway.
Anyone that goes to one of these things unvaxxed is crazy. At the same time, most of these things suck so much in the best of circumstances, I can only imagine what it will be like to hang packed in with the great unwashed for hours on end in the summer *with* a mask on (like they'll even be able to enforce them anyway). Though at the least the mask might help with the dust and stink.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 23:39 (two years ago) link
JazzFest again this year.
More to follow?
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 9 August 2021 17:17 (two years ago) link
Wise elder statesmen of rock Limp Bizkit have cancelled their summer tour. I think this bodes poorly for the future of live music this year.
― peace, man, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 18:09 (two years ago) link
The safety of our patrons and staff is our number one priority. As such a full COVID-19 vaccination or negative COVID-19 test will be required to attend Bonnaroo 2021. pic.twitter.com/KnwCJWaNf4— Bonnaroo (@Bonnaroo) August 10, 2021
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 18:10 (two years ago) link
Btw, the comments there are kind of illuminating. Not too much pushback that I saw, but a lot of fascinating ignorance. Like, people complaining there is not enough time to get both doses of Pfizer or Moderna before the festival ... but they've literally had months and months to get vaccinated, so is this really, finally all it took? Or people asking, because J&J is all that's left as a wannabe fully-vaxxed option, what the difference is between it and the other two. Really? Where have you all been?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 18:17 (two years ago) link
Limp cancelled cos Wes fell ill
― there's too much fucking shit on me (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 18:18 (two years ago) link
Where have you all been?
1. partying 2. in states where communities and governments actively work towards making that kind of info hard to access
― bezos did the dub (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 18:21 (two years ago) link
It boggles the mind, we carry supercomputers with all the information in the world on it in our goddam pockets. So, sure, partying, I guess.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 18:23 (two years ago) link
but they've literally had months and months to get vaccinated, so is this really, finally all it took?
For some, it's an empanada. For some, it's the opportunity to see tha Bizk'. But what unites them is a lack of self-care or concern for their loved ones.
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 18:25 (two years ago) link
we carry supercomputers with all the information in the world on it in our goddam pockets
yes, but also all the misinformation in the world
― bezos did the dub (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 18:27 (two years ago) link
Though I do love the idea of Bonnaroo bros partying so hard they don't even know we're in the midst of a pandemic. They're probably wondering why there's been a two year gap between sets.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 18:35 (two years ago) link
perhaps they thought Sleep was playing Dopesmoker
― there's too much fucking shit on me (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 18:39 (two years ago) link
Except they are also going with the 72 hour negative test result (same as Lolla) which, iirc, has been noted as way too long.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 18:41 (two years ago) link
They really should just require proof of vax, period.
― Shallot Shortage 2021 (morrisp), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 19:24 (two years ago) link
Seriously. I don't get the negative test result shit. Okay, I'm sure this individual who's still unvaccinated in August of 2021 has made nothing but responsible choices in the 72 hours since they tested negative, right on.
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 19:29 (two years ago) link
Maybe they've just had covid a lot so assume they are very immune.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 19:32 (two years ago) link
I wish!
Not even that! It's "lucked out enough to not be positive on that specific date" but I highly doubt someone still unvaccinated at this point is going to sit patiently at home for those 72 hours pre-show. Of course they will be out and mixing with people and potentially getting infected.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 19:49 (two years ago) link
They're even offering testing on site, if you really want to test your luck.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 19:51 (two years ago) link
After 18 months of full denial i have finally come round to the we are all going to get it eventually, probably several times point of view as it just seems sadly inevitable. it is now endemic in the UK, the whole country is fully open and i'm pretty sure there will be no turning back now. i am burning through the lateral flow tests at a crazy rate and am fairly sure i'll catch it in the not too imminent future.
do US folks here intend to avoid gigs etc for the foreseeable future?
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 20:03 (two years ago) link
I've got tickets for a big outdoor show in mid-September, bought during that flush of hope early this summer when it seemed like we might be turning a corner. It might end up being a last minute decision on whether I go or not, currently leaning towards going and masked, but I don't know.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 20:05 (two years ago) link
Same. Tickets for my show (medium-sized venue, also mid-Sept.) were initially seated and socially-distanced and I wasn't planning to go, but then they switched it up to general admission and I bought them, ostensibly have people coming to stay with us from out of town to see said show, all or some or none of which might ultimately happen. Like everything else, it's just a matter of playing it by ear minute-to-minute based on whatever little snatches of seemingly-reliable information we can grab from the ether. It's goddamn exhausting.
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 20:10 (two years ago) link
Still debating. My first ticketed shows aren't until the end of September, and I am waiting to see what things are like much closer to the time.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 20:15 (two years ago) link
until further notice i'm seeing phish on saturday. idk
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 20:19 (two years ago) link
Until my kids can be vaccinated, I would feel irresponsible going to a big gathering. If I were single, or lived in a household with all healthy/vaxxed people (who were ok with it), I might go to a gig... at least outdoors?
― Shallot Shortage 2021 (morrisp), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 20:41 (two years ago) link
I've got tickets to two concerts in the coming months.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 20:48 (two years ago) link
do US folks here intend to avoid gigs etc for the foreseeable future?Two weeks ago, El Vez and Digable Planets played an open-air plaza downtown in daylight, which was the first music I’ve seen since Feb 2020. I don’t intend to attend any indoor shows in 2021, and may not see anything else outdoors unless it’s as small as those.
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 22:58 (two years ago) link
Stevie Nicks has cancelled all of her 2021 shows, including several festival performances.
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 23:38 (two years ago) link
And so the pushback begins?
Tomorrow's @JasonIsbell and the 400 Unit show at the Cynthia Woods Mitchell Pavilion in Houston, TX is CANCELLED. Unfortunately, the venue was not willing to comply with the band's updated Health and Safety standards. (1/2)— Southeastern Records (@SoutheasternRec) August 10, 2021
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 23:57 (two years ago) link
I really would like to know how well that show sold in the first place. The venue is a 20000 seat summer shed tied to LiveNation and the city of the Woodlands (a big semi-upper class suburb of Houston).
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 00:03 (two years ago) link
I'd be willing to bet that it was the city that balked at Isbell's demands: it's a bit of a GOP stronghold, and they probably would have been responsible for checking out the attendees (ticket-takers, concessions etc. are all handled by volunteers from the community).
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 00:11 (two years ago) link
https://www.houstonpress.com/music/jason-isbell-show-in-the-woodlands-cancelled-11701965
"The Cynthia Woods Mitchell Pavilion fully supports and commends Jason Isbell and his team for their commitment to the health of their fans, crew, band and venue staff. We are on on the same page here and we agree with what Jason Isbell would like to implement, but there is a timing issue," wrote Jerry MacDonald, president & CEO of The Cynthia Woods Mitchell Pavilion."To implement a major change in policy such as what is requested will take more time than we have," MacDonald wrote.
"To implement a major change in policy such as what is requested will take more time than we have," MacDonald wrote.
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 00:25 (two years ago) link
The pavilion statement is false. Live Nation, the promoter, was on board but the venue owner flat-out refused to even attempt to implement the policy. https://t.co/iGlfTTLYsV— Jason Isbell (@JasonIsbell) August 11, 2021
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 02:00 (two years ago) link
It’s been great to watch Jason fight the good fight here and not back down, even with some of the shit he’s been getting from some of his “fans”. Also good on him to put his money where his mouth is on this and just let the show go.
I feel for the dedicated, vaccinated Isbell fans in the area that will miss this, but I have a feeling his true fans aren’t going to blame him too much.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 02:14 (two years ago) link
Oh, he'll be back, and at a less douchy venue to boot. As I said, the venue's "staff" are all volunteers, many of them teens or seniors. This was just not going to work.
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 02:25 (two years ago) link
Also… of course…
Yes, Sally McDonald is the daughter of the Houston venue owner I was referring to. She prolly shoulda said that! https://t.co/jW2jSs7dM2— Jason Isbell (@JasonIsbell) August 11, 2021
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 02:46 (two years ago) link
In other Isbell news, his DFW show has changed venues.
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 02:54 (two years ago) link
👏The Woodlands 👏 is 👏 not 👏 Houston!👏 No lie, they had to shut down their Walmart over the weekend due to. COVID outbreak. Antivax, anti mask idiots— Chris Egan (@cpegan70) August 11, 2021
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 02:56 (two years ago) link
weird hill to die on, there.
― there's too much fucking shit on me (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 03:02 (two years ago) link
i mean it's literally just outside of Houston, I've been there for work and my friend runs security at that pavilion.
― there's too much fucking shit on me (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 03:03 (two years ago) link
can’t believe cpegan70 is sacrificing his reputation on this
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 03:10 (two years ago) link
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/jason-isbell-covid-vaccine-required-1210914/
So what happened in Houston? The venue is saying there wasn’t enough time to implement your Covid policy.They were unwilling to implement what we had requested. And it’s not the kind of thing we’re going to compromise. The compromise is the negative test. That’s for people who can’t get the vaccine, and also for people who just won’t get the vaccine. As long as they can show up with a 72-hour negative test, we’ll let them in. And in my mind, that’s not everything that we could do. We could cancel all the shows and go home. But we made this decision, and we’re going to stick by it. We’re not going to compromise any farther beyond the negative test. I think anything other than that would be extremely irresponsible on our part.As for the idea that they didn’t have enough time to implement it, how long has Covid been around? How long have these venues known that this kind of thing was going to happen? What did they think was going to happen when the vaccines rolled out? You know, I started to trademark the name “The Antibody Bar” about a year ago, because I thought, “Man, one day we’re going to need a bar where people who have viral antibodies can come and hang out.” I even emailed my lawyer and he said, “Yes, we can do that.” But I thought, you know what, that would be taking advantage of a bad situation, so I didn’t do it. But that goes to show you that we knew this was coming. People had plenty of time to prepare. So that excuse, I think, looks pretty hollow to anybody.You were supposed to play Panther Island Pavilion in Fort Worth this Friday, and the show was moved to another venue, Billy Bob’s. Why did that change?Normally, what we’re looking at are venues that are large, outdoor venues that receive some funding from the state. Their fear is that, as (Texas Governor) Abbott has threatened, the state is going to withhold funding from the venues that allow artists to put Covid restrictions in place. I don’t think Billy Bob’s needs Texas’s money, because Billy Bob’s got Billy Bob’s money. So capitalism stepped up and said, “Hey, we’ll take the money.” I think of Billy Bob’s in Hank Williams, Jr.’s voice: “I’ll take your money. I’ll make your movies. I’ll tell you right now, I was born to boogie.” I think Billy Bob’s Texas was born to boogie. They don’t need Texas state funding, so they have no problem hosting the show there. I’m excited about it, because my bass player Jimbo told me the other day that his dad, who has since passed away, told him a long time ago, “Son, since you’re out there touring, one day you got to go to Billy Bob’s Texas. It is the greatest place on Earth.”Why specifically are you drawing this line and refusing to play venues that won’t honor your vaccination or negative-test policy?Because I don’t feel right onstage while I think people might be getting deathly ill in the crowd. I don’t think it’s fair to the audience or to the crews at the venues or to my crew to put people in a situation where they’re possibly risking their lives or taking the virus home to their kids, or they go to school and give it to other kids. It just didn’t feel right. I pride myself, and I have always prided myself, on being successful at a job where nobody gets hurt. I’m not an investment banker or a hedge fund manager. I don’t need anybody to fail for me to succeed. And I think if we hadn’t put these kinds of restrictions in place and we didn’t hold the line on it, I would feel like I was taking advantage of people while I’m doing my job. I don’t ever want to do that, because that little thing that I love the most about the job that I have is the fact that it spreads something positive. I want to protect that. I don’t want to spread positive tests — I want to spread positive vibes.With some states banning vaccine requirements, how does your decision affect your tour routing, from a logistical standpoint?Well, so far, Houston’s the only one that we’ve had issue with. I have a really good team of people around me who are able to respond and react real quickly, and I know this is going to put a burden on them, but that’s a sacrifice they’re willing to make in order to do the right thing. We’ve got some shows coming up in Alabama, and I know Governor Ivey has been a little bit more science-based in some of her Covid-related decisions than some of the other Republican governors in the southeastern states. So I’m hoping that, if we need to, we can get in touch with her and discuss that, because Lord knows, I love playing big shows in my home state. But what’s really going to help is if all the artists who are at the level where they can hold this line and make these restrictions and keep them in place — if all those artists do that, it’s going to be real hard for the states to turn that down, because they’re going to lose a lot of revenue and a lot of their constituents are going to get real upset. That’s what I’m hoping happens.So why won’t some artists, especially in country music, do what you’re doing? Or encourage their fans to get the vaccine? Or even just wear a mask?It’s easy for me because I’m not really a country artist. It’s easy for me to say, “I don’t care if I piss off country fans or not,” because I really don’t have a whole lot of them. Artists who are working their way up or don’t have a huge crowd and aren’t bringing in a whole lot of money, they’re in a different situation, and it’s not as easy for them. I think a lot of it is the way the country music industry was designed and has been run from the start — what you’re seeing is another problem created by the unwillingness of country music to push any narrative other than the suffering of a straight white man. That’s been going on for so long, and that is the story that they have decided they’re going to sell. They know that that story will make them X amount of revenue, and so they continue to sell that story over and over right down the line. This is another one of many, many problems that have been caused by their reluctance to promote any narrative other than that one.I think everybody should do the right thing, regardless of what you think your fans are going to do about it. I’m not risking the same amount as somebody who’s a superstar and loves being a superstar might be risking, but that being said, the right thing is still the right thing, no matter what. And there’s a difference between right and wrong; there aren’t good people on both sides; and I don’t want us to all unify and come together under the banner of stupidity. I think we should do the right thing any time we get the opportunity, no matter who we are. And the right thing is to try to keep people safe and make some requirements at your shows.You’re playing Bonnaroo this year, and the festival just announced its own vaccination or negative-test policy. How will your policy work if another festival doesn’t comply?When I made this declaration, I didn’t know Bonnaroo was going to do it, and I was a little nervous because I sure do love playing Bonnaroo. But (my policy) means across the board. I’m not going to play a festival unless they require either vaccine proof or a negative test. I have my own festival in Alabama (ShoalsFest in October), and we’re going to require that at my festival, and if Kay Ivey won’t let us do it, then we will not have the festival, as much as it breaks my heart to say it.There’s no leeway on that as far as you’re concerned.The test is the leeway, and that’s plenty. They’ve got a better test now where they can just do it real comfortably and it takes three minutes and it’s no problem. And they’re cheap. You can get tests now at Walgreens and there are still a lot of free testing facilities. So I’m not buying any of this, “We can’t afford to go get a test” bullshit. You might not be able to afford a positive result, but you should not be going about your business if you are Covid-positive.Nashville clubs announced a similar policy yesterday. What’s your take on that, especially as it relates to the local musicians?That’s a very specific point that needs to be made. At my level, I can make that decision and implement it. That can’t happen if people are playing Exit/In or Mercy Lounge. They need the venues to step up and take that heat, because the venues have more power than the artists in those situations. So I was really proud to see those places do that. It was their responsibility to take that on and not force the hand of these artists who are trying to make a living on one show at a time.What would you say to fans who object to the proof-of-vax or negative-test mandate?I think if people will look inside themselves, they will see that in most cases, the truth is that they are afraid to get the vaccine. I understand that. When my dad got the vaccine, he was afraid to get the vaccine. My wife got the vaccine, and she was afraid to get the vaccine. And they sat down and had a discussion. They talked to their doctor. The doctor told them, “This is why you don’t need to be afraid of this.” And they went and they got the vaccine.I think a big problem with this is the fact that people don’t feel comfortable saying, “I’m afraid.” It’s so much easier to say, “Well, you can catch Covid even if you’ve been vaccinated” or “I’ve heard a lot of people getting sicker from the vaccine” or “This is just like the flu.” “This is just like the flu” is an interesting one to me, because until this point, it has not been just like the flu. It has been a whole hell of a lot worse than the flu. What we’re trying to get to is a point where Covid is just like the flu. That’s the win. That means that we get to have our lives back and our economy gets to do better. People get to go back to work and back to shows and families can be together. And you don’t have to worry about hundreds of thousands of people dying. It can be just like the flu — if we will all just go ahead and admit what we’re afraid of, communicate with the people that we trust, and get the damn vaccine if we can.A lot of artists on tour now are reporting getting sick. Are you testing daily?We’re testing band and crew every day. I’ve got a big old stack of tests, rapid tests, in my wardrobe case.The trappings of the rock star life…Yeah, it’s like, “Get out your snakeskin boots and stick a swab up your nose!”You didn’t ask for this, but you’ve become something of a beacon for fans and for artists right now. How do you feel about that?That’s fine with me. I have a lot of patience. I think the things that I learned when I was recovering from alcoholism made me more capable of handling a situation like this. But I’m not the first that did this. Widespread Panic are doing the same thing, and Japanese Breakfast did it pretty early. But I’m fine with whatever responsibility is put on me. I’m a white man. You know, there’s no reason to have all this privilege and power if I don’t use it for something good every once in a while.
They were unwilling to implement what we had requested. And it’s not the kind of thing we’re going to compromise. The compromise is the negative test. That’s for people who can’t get the vaccine, and also for people who just won’t get the vaccine. As long as they can show up with a 72-hour negative test, we’ll let them in. And in my mind, that’s not everything that we could do. We could cancel all the shows and go home. But we made this decision, and we’re going to stick by it. We’re not going to compromise any farther beyond the negative test. I think anything other than that would be extremely irresponsible on our part.
As for the idea that they didn’t have enough time to implement it, how long has Covid been around? How long have these venues known that this kind of thing was going to happen? What did they think was going to happen when the vaccines rolled out? You know, I started to trademark the name “The Antibody Bar” about a year ago, because I thought, “Man, one day we’re going to need a bar where people who have viral antibodies can come and hang out.” I even emailed my lawyer and he said, “Yes, we can do that.” But I thought, you know what, that would be taking advantage of a bad situation, so I didn’t do it. But that goes to show you that we knew this was coming. People had plenty of time to prepare. So that excuse, I think, looks pretty hollow to anybody.
You were supposed to play Panther Island Pavilion in Fort Worth this Friday, and the show was moved to another venue, Billy Bob’s. Why did that change?
Normally, what we’re looking at are venues that are large, outdoor venues that receive some funding from the state. Their fear is that, as (Texas Governor) Abbott has threatened, the state is going to withhold funding from the venues that allow artists to put Covid restrictions in place. I don’t think Billy Bob’s needs Texas’s money, because Billy Bob’s got Billy Bob’s money. So capitalism stepped up and said, “Hey, we’ll take the money.” I think of Billy Bob’s in Hank Williams, Jr.’s voice: “I’ll take your money. I’ll make your movies. I’ll tell you right now, I was born to boogie.” I think Billy Bob’s Texas was born to boogie. They don’t need Texas state funding, so they have no problem hosting the show there. I’m excited about it, because my bass player Jimbo told me the other day that his dad, who has since passed away, told him a long time ago, “Son, since you’re out there touring, one day you got to go to Billy Bob’s Texas. It is the greatest place on Earth.”
Why specifically are you drawing this line and refusing to play venues that won’t honor your vaccination or negative-test policy?
Because I don’t feel right onstage while I think people might be getting deathly ill in the crowd. I don’t think it’s fair to the audience or to the crews at the venues or to my crew to put people in a situation where they’re possibly risking their lives or taking the virus home to their kids, or they go to school and give it to other kids. It just didn’t feel right. I pride myself, and I have always prided myself, on being successful at a job where nobody gets hurt. I’m not an investment banker or a hedge fund manager. I don’t need anybody to fail for me to succeed. And I think if we hadn’t put these kinds of restrictions in place and we didn’t hold the line on it, I would feel like I was taking advantage of people while I’m doing my job. I don’t ever want to do that, because that little thing that I love the most about the job that I have is the fact that it spreads something positive. I want to protect that. I don’t want to spread positive tests — I want to spread positive vibes.
With some states banning vaccine requirements, how does your decision affect your tour routing, from a logistical standpoint?
Well, so far, Houston’s the only one that we’ve had issue with. I have a really good team of people around me who are able to respond and react real quickly, and I know this is going to put a burden on them, but that’s a sacrifice they’re willing to make in order to do the right thing. We’ve got some shows coming up in Alabama, and I know Governor Ivey has been a little bit more science-based in some of her Covid-related decisions than some of the other Republican governors in the southeastern states. So I’m hoping that, if we need to, we can get in touch with her and discuss that, because Lord knows, I love playing big shows in my home state. But what’s really going to help is if all the artists who are at the level where they can hold this line and make these restrictions and keep them in place — if all those artists do that, it’s going to be real hard for the states to turn that down, because they’re going to lose a lot of revenue and a lot of their constituents are going to get real upset. That’s what I’m hoping happens.
So why won’t some artists, especially in country music, do what you’re doing? Or encourage their fans to get the vaccine? Or even just wear a mask?
It’s easy for me because I’m not really a country artist. It’s easy for me to say, “I don’t care if I piss off country fans or not,” because I really don’t have a whole lot of them. Artists who are working their way up or don’t have a huge crowd and aren’t bringing in a whole lot of money, they’re in a different situation, and it’s not as easy for them. I think a lot of it is the way the country music industry was designed and has been run from the start — what you’re seeing is another problem created by the unwillingness of country music to push any narrative other than the suffering of a straight white man. That’s been going on for so long, and that is the story that they have decided they’re going to sell. They know that that story will make them X amount of revenue, and so they continue to sell that story over and over right down the line. This is another one of many, many problems that have been caused by their reluctance to promote any narrative other than that one.
I think everybody should do the right thing, regardless of what you think your fans are going to do about it. I’m not risking the same amount as somebody who’s a superstar and loves being a superstar might be risking, but that being said, the right thing is still the right thing, no matter what. And there’s a difference between right and wrong; there aren’t good people on both sides; and I don’t want us to all unify and come together under the banner of stupidity. I think we should do the right thing any time we get the opportunity, no matter who we are. And the right thing is to try to keep people safe and make some requirements at your shows.
You’re playing Bonnaroo this year, and the festival just announced its own vaccination or negative-test policy. How will your policy work if another festival doesn’t comply?
When I made this declaration, I didn’t know Bonnaroo was going to do it, and I was a little nervous because I sure do love playing Bonnaroo. But (my policy) means across the board. I’m not going to play a festival unless they require either vaccine proof or a negative test. I have my own festival in Alabama (ShoalsFest in October), and we’re going to require that at my festival, and if Kay Ivey won’t let us do it, then we will not have the festival, as much as it breaks my heart to say it.
There’s no leeway on that as far as you’re concerned.
The test is the leeway, and that’s plenty. They’ve got a better test now where they can just do it real comfortably and it takes three minutes and it’s no problem. And they’re cheap. You can get tests now at Walgreens and there are still a lot of free testing facilities. So I’m not buying any of this, “We can’t afford to go get a test” bullshit. You might not be able to afford a positive result, but you should not be going about your business if you are Covid-positive.
Nashville clubs announced a similar policy yesterday. What’s your take on that, especially as it relates to the local musicians?
That’s a very specific point that needs to be made. At my level, I can make that decision and implement it. That can’t happen if people are playing Exit/In or Mercy Lounge. They need the venues to step up and take that heat, because the venues have more power than the artists in those situations. So I was really proud to see those places do that. It was their responsibility to take that on and not force the hand of these artists who are trying to make a living on one show at a time.
What would you say to fans who object to the proof-of-vax or negative-test mandate?
I think if people will look inside themselves, they will see that in most cases, the truth is that they are afraid to get the vaccine. I understand that. When my dad got the vaccine, he was afraid to get the vaccine. My wife got the vaccine, and she was afraid to get the vaccine. And they sat down and had a discussion. They talked to their doctor. The doctor told them, “This is why you don’t need to be afraid of this.” And they went and they got the vaccine.
I think a big problem with this is the fact that people don’t feel comfortable saying, “I’m afraid.” It’s so much easier to say, “Well, you can catch Covid even if you’ve been vaccinated” or “I’ve heard a lot of people getting sicker from the vaccine” or “This is just like the flu.” “This is just like the flu” is an interesting one to me, because until this point, it has not been just like the flu. It has been a whole hell of a lot worse than the flu. What we’re trying to get to is a point where Covid is just like the flu. That’s the win. That means that we get to have our lives back and our economy gets to do better. People get to go back to work and back to shows and families can be together. And you don’t have to worry about hundreds of thousands of people dying. It can be just like the flu — if we will all just go ahead and admit what we’re afraid of, communicate with the people that we trust, and get the damn vaccine if we can.
A lot of artists on tour now are reporting getting sick. Are you testing daily?
We’re testing band and crew every day. I’ve got a big old stack of tests, rapid tests, in my wardrobe case.
The trappings of the rock star life…
Yeah, it’s like, “Get out your snakeskin boots and stick a swab up your nose!”
You didn’t ask for this, but you’ve become something of a beacon for fans and for artists right now. How do you feel about that?
That’s fine with me. I have a lot of patience. I think the things that I learned when I was recovering from alcoholism made me more capable of handling a situation like this. But I’m not the first that did this. Widespread Panic are doing the same thing, and Japanese Breakfast did it pretty early. But I’m fine with whatever responsibility is put on me. I’m a white man. You know, there’s no reason to have all this privilege and power if I don’t use it for something good every once in a while.
I love this guy. Haven't spent much time with much of his post Truckers work, but I love this guy.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 August 2021 22:51 (two years ago) link
really proud of him for being a straight shooterits great to see
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 23:48 (two years ago) link
Good news: reportedly Lollapalooza was not a super-spreader event. City reporting around 200 cases, 50 from Chicago, a handful from out of state, none requiring hospitalization or leading to death.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 12 August 2021 16:08 (two years ago) link
Short answer no, although I don't go to that many shows. I went to a few indoor jazz shows this week, most people wearing masks when walking around but also, y'know, not. Also a local outdoor festival, played one night and went to a couple other nights. Since I'm vaxxed (obv) and the vaccination rates are super high here, I feel fine about it tbh.
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 12 August 2021 16:15 (two years ago) link
Was not expecting Saving Country Music to play Devil's Advocate here.
https://www.savingcountrymusic.com/houston-venue-refutes-jason-isbells-claim-it-refused-covid-policy/
Also, my question answered:
The show was going to be at about 10% capacity. We can seat 16,500 folks at our venue, and the show had sold about 1,700 tickets. We offered to open up our lawn. We are an open air, outdoor venue. We tried to give some options there, but our options were denied.”
Given the # of tickets sold, and had there been more acknowledged lead time (a point in the article is there was a disconnect between Live Nation messaging the venue about Isbell's demands and the venue addressing them), the show could possibly have been moved to an outdoor venue just north of downtown Houston that has been doing Covid-protocol shows since last year.
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 12 August 2021 21:00 (two years ago) link
...and Isbell has performed at in the recent past.
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 12 August 2021 21:01 (two years ago) link
...and where he probably should have been playing in the first place.
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 12 August 2021 21:06 (two years ago) link
It's all a tangled mess, but I'd still assign the most blame to the venue, who seemed to drop the ball too many times in ways you just can't do these days.
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 12 August 2021 21:12 (two years ago) link
If you’re so concerned with safety, be like Stevie Nicks and just cancel your tour. The vaccines aren’t going to stop the spread.— Scott Mervis (@scottmervis_pg) August 12, 2021
The ‘pop music beat reporter’ for the Pittsburgh paper’s on the case.
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Friday, 13 August 2021 00:22 (two years ago) link
Stevie Nicks cancelled her tour because she's 73 and has health issues and doesn't want to be exposed to a bunch of germs from unmasked and/or unvaxxed weirdos for in sets of two hours each spaced out over several weeks.
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 13 August 2021 00:28 (two years ago) link
idk you weren’t?
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 13 August 2021 01:53 (two years ago) link
the save country music guy has never struck me as someone who writes in good faith
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 13 August 2021 01:55 (two years ago) link
or worth treating as an authority about anything
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 13 August 2021 01:57 (two years ago) link
It's just he's usually tonedeaf about venue stuff (among other things), so getting such a rounded exploration* of what happened from there was a modest surprise. And despite Scam's general little hate-on for Isbell, it contains most damning evidence of the actions and non-actions of the venue.
*There's more about Live Nation and the venue in this piece than in others I've seen, which limit themselves to Isbell's pov and a mere scratching of the surface of everything else.
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 13 August 2021 02:37 (two years ago) link
oh whoops, sorry reacted v off the cuff without reading lol. thank u c. grisso
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 13 August 2021 02:40 (two years ago) link
Save Country Music guy is a racist-baiting asshole.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 August 2021 02:42 (two years ago) link
Well, yeah.
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 13 August 2021 02:47 (two years ago) link
Live Nation follows AEG and requires proof of vaccination or negative test.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 14 August 2021 16:42 (two years ago) link
https://neilyoungarchives.com/news/1/article?id=A-Message-Farmaid-And-The-Pandemic
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 19 August 2021 14:32 (two years ago) link
Nine Inch Nails cancelled the rest of their tour dates for this year.
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 19 August 2021 18:37 (two years ago) link
i feel like most of the people who will be making moves like these will be folks like trent or neil who do not rely on touring income to survive
― bezos did the dub (voodoo chili), Thursday, 19 August 2021 18:55 (two years ago) link
Ty Segall is going vax-only for upcoming shows.
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Thursday, 19 August 2021 19:10 (two years ago) link
and by that he means his shows are only people showing up to get vaccines and no actual music
― there's too much fucking shit on me (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 August 2021 19:31 (two years ago) link
lol Riot Fest replaced NIN with ... Morrissey.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 20 August 2021 03:04 (two years ago) link
All the NIN fans on my timeline when that news hit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBOhQamGGuI
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 20 August 2021 03:27 (two years ago) link
Live Nation follows AEG and requires proof of vaccination or negative test
But not till October. They have summer tour money to make first , without having to have ushers looking at vax cards. They claim the October start is to give staff time to get vaccinated
― curmudgeon, Friday, 20 August 2021 04:22 (two years ago) link
I'm sure making money (after making summer plans) played a part, but tbf, if you got your first shot of Moderna or Pfizer today, you couldn't get your second shot until somewhere around September 10. And if you got your second shot September 10, you wouldn't be fully vaxxed until around October. That was one of the complaints some were making after Bonnaroo called for vaccines, that it didn't give enough notice for people to get the double-shots in time for the show, just the single dose J&J. Which of course is better than nothing, but if I had my choice that is not necessarily the shot I'd prefer.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 20 August 2021 12:10 (two years ago) link
That was one of the complaints some were making after Bonnaroo called for vaccines, that it didn't give enough notice for people to get the double-shots in time for the show,
If only someone had informed them about the vaccine at any point before then! My heart, it weeps.
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Friday, 20 August 2021 12:43 (two years ago) link
What vaccine?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 20 August 2021 13:06 (two years ago) link
too busy partying to glance at the news or social media for 12 months
― bezos did the dub (voodoo chili), Friday, 20 August 2021 13:21 (two years ago) link
BTS cancels world tour.
― Shallot Shortage 2021 (morrisp), Friday, 20 August 2021 22:14 (two years ago) link
pic.twitter.com/QpQAr7q84R— Sam O’Rama (@samorama) August 20, 2021
― ... (Eazy), Friday, 20 August 2021 22:23 (two years ago) link
I thought it would be cancelled, but Clive Davis's huge Central Park concert is still going (and just missing a tropical storm that's already cancelled the following evening Summerstage concert with Common). I walked by tonight and to my surprise they were doing soundchecks with Patti Smith and Paul Simon. I only stayed for Patti's but she did some standards you've come to expect like "People Have the Power," "Gloria," "Because the Night," etc. Lots of stop and starts, but a nice thing to run into.
CNN will stream it live tomorrow at 5 p.m. EST, and it's free to watch, i.e. you don't have to login/have an account to get the whole thing.
― birdistheword, Saturday, 21 August 2021 04:35 (two years ago) link
Article summarizing the state of things: Are concerts safe? For a growing number of artists and tour pros, risk outweighs reward https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2021-08-23/delta-variant-concerts-cancellations
― Shallot Shortage 2021 (morrisp), Tuesday, 24 August 2021 01:10 (two years ago) link
Ironically, 'twas not Covid that killed Bonnaroo this year:
We are absolutely heartbroken to announce that we must cancel Bonnaroo. While this weekend’s weather looks outstanding, currently Centeroo is waterlogged in many areas, the ground is incredibly saturated on our tollbooth paths, and the campgrounds are flooded to the point that...— Bonnaroo (@Bonnaroo) August 31, 2021
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 21:39 (two years ago) link
https://www.thedailybeast.com/kiss-postpones-concerts-after-paul-stanley-gene-simmons-catch-covid?
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 21:55 (two years ago) link
https://www.nashvillecasketsales.com/assets/images/kiss11-800x600.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 22:27 (two years ago) link
Caskets are not autographed. Picture is of Gene Simmons autographing our prototype.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 22:28 (two years ago) link
[Cancels order...]
― nickn, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 22:34 (two years ago) link
If you should happen to feel like you have a little too much faith in humanity today, I suggest you take a quick stroll through the responses in that Bonnaroo tweet thread to have them knocked back down to reasonable levels.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 14:30 (two years ago) link
They should go camp out in that sloppy flooded mudfield in protest.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 September 2021 14:35 (two years ago) link
A lotta people not understanding that you can be mad about something and not go on Twitter about it.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 15:17 (two years ago) link
Meanwhile in Nebraska, rain just means they're just moving indoors:
A Christian rock show tonight and a country rock show tomorrow will be moved indoors at the State Fair in Grand Island with no masks or vaccines required.The Covid vaccination rate in Hall County is under 42%, and the rates of surrounding counties are even lower. This is nuts. https://t.co/371bt1a3oY— Ted Genoways (@TedGenoways) September 1, 2021
― ... (Eazy), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 15:25 (two years ago) link
Sometimes I wonder if it's less COVID fatigue than it is just like living fatigue
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 15:27 (two years ago) link
that's the crux, i think. we're a spiritually sick society
― global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 1 September 2021 15:58 (two years ago) link
Neko Case cancelling the rest of her tour with AC Newman.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 17:50 (two years ago) link
That’s a weekend of sold-out shows for them. Damn.
― ... (Eazy), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 18:12 (two years ago) link
This weekend’s shows are unfortunately postponed due to illness. New dates will be: Fri Jan 14 - New York, Irving PlazaSat Jan 15 - Boston, The Royale— Guided By Voices (@_GuidedByVoices) September 9, 2021
Not able to confirm that this is COVID related, to be transparent, but not great news.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 September 2021 20:56 (two years ago) link
Just noticed today that Dinosaur Jr are no longer on the Riot Fest line up, and their home page tour section has many dates listed as postponed. Bummer. I feel bad for Ryley Walker, as that would have been an excellent bill. I wasn't ready for indoor shows yet, and didn't get tix for their separate Chicago show.
― BlackIronPrison, Thursday, 9 September 2021 23:32 (two years ago) link
Sorry, y’all pic.twitter.com/z3BWdO67HB— clipping. (@clppng) September 13, 2021
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 13 September 2021 23:31 (two years ago) link
Faith No More now too:
pic.twitter.com/7vFtlB34lP— Faith No More (@FaithNoMore) September 14, 2021
Just whiplash to see these cancellations coming in between new tour announcements (Mastodon/Opeth tour for one).
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 14 September 2021 17:22 (two years ago) link
That's not due to covid though. Patton is struggling with mental health issues.
― peace, man, Tuesday, 14 September 2021 17:38 (two years ago) link
A statement from Mike Patton pic.twitter.com/uUIZdlefAm— Ipecac Recordings (@IpecacRec) September 14, 2021
― peace, man, Tuesday, 14 September 2021 17:39 (two years ago) link
thanks for that, sorry. i hadn't seen Patton's separate release and the first tweet linking the FNM announcement said it was from COVID and i jumped the gun.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 14 September 2021 17:40 (two years ago) link
accidentally posted this in the wrong thread:
Dead and Company cancelled their two Florida shows coming up next month. Official reasoning being "routing and production logistics", but I won't be surprised to lean that is has more to do with DeSantis and his anti-vaccine proof stance. They've been pretty big on proof of vaccine requirements at their shows and vocally concerned about Delta. Considering they are still managing the "routing and production logistics" are still getting them through North Carolina and Georgia, it's hard not to read between the lines about why only the Florida shows got scratched.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 18:11 (two years ago) link
Judas Priest cancelled rest of US tour, though NOT due to COVID, but due to Richie Faulkner's ticker problems (he's my age!!! ;_;)
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 18:18 (two years ago) link
This was the thread I was actually looking for, but as mentioned in the other thread, Sturgill Simpson cancelled a bunch of shows (including his Webster Hall residency) due to ongoing vocal issues. He had COVID last year so maybe it's long-term effects?
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 22:50 (two years ago) link
North America 2021 - An important message to our fans pic.twitter.com/P492jPH8WW— Dead Can Dance (@DCDmusic) September 20, 2021
Update on our North American 2021 Tour Dates pic.twitter.com/fmAMz9eHRM— Dead Can Dance (@DCDmusic) September 29, 2021
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 18:48 (two years ago) link