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Formerly known as herky-jerky, time travel, experimental etc etc

Charlie Looker of Extra Life and such has just tweeted about this, by Stern, an old friend of his. It is weird, and really good. File under lo-fi underwater prog:

https://sterntheband.bandcamp.com/album/sunder-hawk

imago, Tuesday, 7 January 2020 20:51 (nine months ago) link

my new band is going to be called Toby Driver Used To Be In My Band

revenge of the jawn (rushomancy), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 00:24 (nine months ago) link

Martillero, from my favourite 2019 album

https://solteronasenescabeche.bandcamp.com/album/lenguaje-y-comunicaci-n

boladederribo, Wednesday, 8 January 2020 05:14 (nine months ago) link

'Weird music' works for me, feel like herky-jerky and experimental are both too specific, and while time travel worked for a while the last thread was too much orange milk and not enough other stuff. My tip for this year is to keep an eye out for BodyVice, Natalie Sharp's newish project.

emil.y, Wednesday, 8 January 2020 21:47 (nine months ago) link

That Stern album sounds great in places.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 18 January 2020 13:53 (nine months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Quietus head honcho releases album of spoken word & electronics: https://teslatapes.bandcamp.com/album/self-help-grand-hotel-ibis -> sounds pretty good in a Shadow Ring/Call Back the Giants way.

emil.y, Friday, 7 February 2020 16:34 (eight months ago) link

Haha, it has gained sentience and begun to communicate in song!

TOO LOW, the Curator (imago), Friday, 7 February 2020 16:37 (eight months ago) link

I don't know if it's a bit self-absorbed to do this, but I think time travellers might enjoy the stuff I play on my radio show, so here's a link. There's four so far and we do it monthly, and I talk a lot of cringey rubbish in between songs so you can laugh at me.

emil.y, Friday, 7 February 2020 16:46 (eight months ago) link

thanks!

let's talk about gecs baby (sleeve), Friday, 7 February 2020 16:50 (eight months ago) link

Very curious to hear both D0ran's venture and your show!

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 7 February 2020 16:52 (eight months ago) link

will definitely be tuning in to your occult frequencies emil.y!

ymo sumac (NickB), Friday, 7 February 2020 17:21 (eight months ago) link

from last year but painted faces “tales from the skinny apartment” fits the bill, utterly stoned demented murk

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Friday, 7 February 2020 17:54 (eight months ago) link

This is pretty rad

https://maternalvoice.bandcamp.com/album/in-threes

are you a fan of i.die music (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 8 February 2020 02:11 (eight months ago) link

SLUSHWAVE FOR AUSTRALIA

http://globalpattern.bandcamp.com/album/slushwave-for-australia

calstars, Saturday, 8 February 2020 02:19 (eight months ago) link

I don't know if it's a bit self-absorbed to do this, but I think time travellers might enjoy the stuff I play on my radio show, so here's a link. There's four so far and we do it monthly, and I talk a lot of cringey rubbish in between songs so you can laugh at me.

― emil.y

i don't think it's self-absorbed, the word i'd use is "cool", thanks!

you know my name, look up the number of the beast (rushomancy), Saturday, 8 February 2020 02:56 (eight months ago) link

took 12 minutes until it hit something where i was like "oh! i know this!" (was that omar khorshid? idk). but everything so far is awesome.

you know my name, look up the number of the beast (rushomancy), Saturday, 8 February 2020 03:08 (eight months ago) link

Awww, thank you so much - it means a lot!

emil.y, Sunday, 9 February 2020 02:29 (eight months ago) link

Stabscotch are back, and they are sounding incredible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w356crY7q8Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k7gAMuGzlQ

imago, Saturday, 15 February 2020 17:36 (eight months ago) link

The Last Alchemist will take some beating as SOTY and that's after one listen

imago, Saturday, 15 February 2020 17:38 (eight months ago) link

https://stabscotch.bandcamp.com/album/twilight-dawn

Album/double EP/'gemini release' announced. Gonna be huge

imago, Monday, 24 February 2020 18:20 (seven months ago) link

Lol at the Schlippenbach reference on the review of the first album posted. So many laughters out loud

sarahell, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 08:39 (seven months ago) link

🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️ NEW MACHINE GIRL 🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️

https://machinegirl.bandcamp.com/album/u-void-synthesizer

on the first track this is insane amazing

imago, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 13:11 (seven months ago) link

I give it 5 bags of popcorn and I'll throw in 10,000 gecs <3

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 14:02 (seven months ago) link

It's very Digital Hardcore!

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 14:05 (seven months ago) link

This rules :D

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 14:12 (seven months ago) link

to think of the saps paying Grimes so much mind and ignoring this, the real 90s-reloaded cybercore

imago, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 14:38 (seven months ago) link

this is insane:

I’m selling my records. Like, all of em. I’m having an open house (date TBA). Not exactly invite only but I won’t be publishing my address. If you’re interested in what I have, check out this spreadsheet (broken down by genre) and DM me for more info. https://t.co/9LW1dyfDBP

— Anti-Gravity Bunny (@justinsnow) February 27, 2020

alpine static, Friday, 28 February 2020 19:14 (seven months ago) link

sounds like something isn't great w/ him or his family, so i'm not trying to make light of that. just saying ... selling all those records is like whoa

alpine static, Friday, 28 February 2020 19:15 (seven months ago) link

I remember when that ^^ dude's iPod broke and he crowdfunded getting a new one. Hope he's doing OK.

This came out last year but only just come across it: Kutiman, an Israeli musician making stuff that could have come out in the early 80s. Sounds like Craig Leon or some of Richard Pinhas' stuff. It's good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2WJ3gq1hh8

Ngolo Cantwell (Chinaski), Sunday, 1 March 2020 20:23 (seven months ago) link

https://infiniteleisure420.bandcamp.com/track/--130

ncxkd, Sunday, 1 March 2020 20:59 (seven months ago) link

i love me some kutiman, he's going interesting directions

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 1 March 2020 23:30 (seven months ago) link

to think of the saps paying Grimes so much mind and ignoring this, the real 90s-reloaded cybercore

🙄

Murdered-Out Highlander XLE (morrisp), Monday, 2 March 2020 06:04 (seven months ago) link

Bit of a vested interest as they're now labelmates, but honestly if you're not listening to Massicot's new one you're missing out: https://massicot.bandcamp.com/album/kratt

emil.y, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 16:14 (seven months ago) link

They self-describe as "tropical kraut punk", which I reckon is fairly accurate. FFO The Ex?

emil.y, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 16:16 (seven months ago) link

Will check! SoL coming soon too yes?

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 16:38 (seven months ago) link

Yes! It's out March 13th, so soon now after such a long wait, eep.

emil.y, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 16:41 (seven months ago) link

Excellent! ILM launch party to come haha

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 16:48 (seven months ago) link

Enjoying the Massicot album, thanks Emily! Tropical kraut punk is otm. It's fun!

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 10:02 (seven months ago) link

not sure if this is the thread for this but i liked Nist-Nah by Will Guthrie:
https://willguthrie.bandcamp.com/album/nist-nah

various sparse metal (the material not the genre) percussion

idgaf (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 18:01 (seven months ago) link

If search is to be believed, the only other time Delphine Dora has been mentioned on ILM is in the 2018 time travel thread. So, here you go. I like this.
https://wearethreefour.bandcamp.com/album/linattingible

Jeff W, Tuesday, 10 March 2020 19:31 (seven months ago) link

I put a gig on featuring Delphine and Sophie Cooper in a tiny space above a pub. Delphine was magnificent but only 8 people showed up. We didn't put many more gigs on.

I'd kind of forgotten about her, tbh. Will check this out, cheers.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 20:21 (seven months ago) link

SoL sounding great, super stuff emil.y et al!

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Saturday, 14 March 2020 14:11 (seven months ago) link

Thanks imago, was really hoping you and tt would like it!

emil.y, Saturday, 14 March 2020 16:39 (seven months ago) link

Another vote for Massicot, very weird & cool!

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 14 March 2020 21:31 (seven months ago) link

The new Slum of Legs album kills, emil.y! Omg I love it. Such densely layered weirdo post-punk! The synth and string arrangements are wonderful. I hope we get to see you perform someday, post-apocalypse.

tangenttangent, Sunday, 15 March 2020 12:19 (seven months ago) link

^^^

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Sunday, 15 March 2020 13:02 (seven months ago) link

Was thinking about doing a thread for that but didn't want to cause any awkwardness but yes - tremendous job e!

ymo sumac (NickB), Sunday, 15 March 2020 13:16 (seven months ago) link

I'm honestly blown away by everyone being so nice about it, makes me all warm and fuzzy, thank you guys.

emil.y, Sunday, 15 March 2020 15:13 (seven months ago) link

we've had very limited interactions on here if any but this is awesome.

gman59, Sunday, 15 March 2020 17:13 (seven months ago) link

I'm sure it's due to the name but it does remind me a bit of King Of The Slums who were a Manchester band from the late 80s who had a rumbling Fall-ish sound but with a fiddle player, and they were fab and I've missed them for a long time. Anyway the first track on the SoL album is fucking stunning and I love it

ymo sumac (NickB), Sunday, 15 March 2020 17:23 (seven months ago) link

rap thread hasn't claimed Zebra Katz yet, can we

new album is fire

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Friday, 27 March 2020 22:48 (six months ago) link

two weeks pass...

New Patricia Taxxon sounding lovely!

https://patriciataxxon.bandcamp.com/album/rainbow-road

What does track 3, Soaring, remind you of? :)

ban laggy jazzer (imago), Saturday, 11 April 2020 19:08 (six months ago) link

New Emma Phyzema on Bandcamp (mixed by Bob Drake), just had a quick listen, sounds good, I detect a bit of a Dannielle Dax influence.

https://emmephyzema.bandcamp.com/album/chronic-bronchitis

Maresn3st, Monday, 13 April 2020 13:40 (six months ago) link

not to take this back to too much orange milk but this is cool:

https://orangemilkrecords.bandcamp.com/album/diagnostics

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 17:48 (six months ago) link

http://hausumountain.bandcamp.com/album/coriolis

Interesting sounds...warm and disjointed

ncxkd, Saturday, 18 April 2020 19:11 (six months ago) link

three weeks pass...

imago and tangent: this seemed like something you might dig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghpn99s8I-U
lifted from the k-pop thread

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 11 May 2020 16:45 (five months ago) link

Radio show #7 up on mixcloud, we got some old weird and some new weird for you all: https://www.mixcloud.com/citybeatradio/cryptophasia-007/

emil.y, Friday, 22 May 2020 15:03 (four months ago) link

https://sidechains.bandcamp.com/track/1-800

devvvine, Friday, 22 May 2020 15:51 (four months ago) link

reminds me of the old slapp happy song "i got evil"

and of course a little DOOM

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 22 May 2020 16:26 (four months ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYP-MscXgAAaNFG?format=png&name=small

Perhaps the most astonishing, seductive and compelling of Partch's works, Delusion stands as the Choral Symphony or Ring Cycle do to other composers: a culminating testament to a lifetime of "doing your own thing."

Like composer Conlon Nancarrow, Partch had to wait until late in life for his radical contributions to the arts to receive wide attention. With the 1969 production of Delusion he was "discovered", idolized, and gurufied, as a 43-tone-to-the-octave, ex-hobo, eccentric, maverick, iconoclastic instrument-builder, and a "philosophic music-man seduced into carpentry." Hippy hyperbole notwithstanding, Partch was a genuine far-out radical whose time has come. Again. "Sounds like this have rarely been heard before, at least not on this planet." Delusion of the Fury is a 72' totally-integrated, corporeal, microtonal, elemental work of ritual theater, incorporating almost all of Partch's hand-built orchestra of sculptural instruments. Using mime, dance, music, vocalizations, lighting, and costume, Partch presents two tales concerning reconciliation of life and death, one after a Japanese Noh drama, the other after an Ethiopian folk tale.
streaming:
http://ubu.com/film/partch_delusion.html

dow, Friday, 22 May 2020 19:09 (four months ago) link

Oooooh.

emil.y, Friday, 22 May 2020 19:18 (four months ago) link

nice

sleeve, Friday, 22 May 2020 19:30 (four months ago) link

i got to see a full live production of Delusion of the Fury some year ago; it was a singular weird experience and i sorta doubt I'll ever hear a Partch orchestra in concert again
https://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/06/arts/music/06part.html

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 23 May 2020 04:10 (four months ago) link

two weeks pass...

More people need to listen and join in on this thread: White Boy Scream

emil.y, Sunday, 7 June 2020 11:10 (four months ago) link

i like this
https://fire-toolz.bandcamp.com/track/ever-widening-rings

billstevejim, Monday, 8 June 2020 19:28 (four months ago) link

Some of this is really lovely but I just can't get comfortable with the vokills and blastbeats in the mix so far

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 9 June 2020 18:39 (four months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4i2OQc7Gr8

I'm liking the new Cucina Povera album. This one features some nice use of mobile phone interference noise.

paolo, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 08:23 (four months ago) link

huh, that's damaging; will try in a focused listen soon.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 16:11 (four months ago) link

Really liked Redundance by Stian Westerhus on first listen: https://stianwesterhus.bandcamp.com/

Makes me think a bit of Robert Fripp playing with Ulver or Toby Driver? He's a very expressive singer. I gather that some of his previous work is just avant-garde guitar composition? I should look deeper into it.

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Monday, 22 June 2020 19:58 (three months ago) link

That's great.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 18:08 (three months ago) link

Not quite the right thread for it, but – in the deathless spirit of shitty descriptors – Tangram by Material Girl is Endtroducing… for zoomers and it rules.

pomenitul, Friday, 26 June 2020 01:43 (three months ago) link

will check recent additions tomorrow, but

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_czBcs7tFtE

taxxon having quite the 2020

the above song is off this, which is on first pass really great

https://patriciataxxon.bandcamp.com/album/gelb

imago, Sunday, 28 June 2020 21:26 (three months ago) link

Yeah I wasn't sure what to make of the Westerhus at first but I ended up enjoying it quite a bit xxp

weekly shopper helper (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 29 June 2020 06:03 (three months ago) link

The second in Taxxon's ballet trilogy is out already and somehow after a few years of releasing a lot of albums she has turned her craft into something quite extraordinary

https://patriciataxxon.bandcamp.com/album/rosa

imago, Monday, 29 June 2020 13:14 (three months ago) link

no wave band w new album out that might be of interest to ppl who read this thread: special interest

flopson, Monday, 29 June 2020 19:40 (three months ago) link

O hell yes Special Interest's Spriraling was amazing, great to know about new 'un.
Speaking of ballet music as breakthrough/honing of craft, have yall heard this?
https://jlin.bandcamp.com/album/autobiography-music-from-wayne-mcgregors-autobiography

dow, Monday, 29 June 2020 20:11 (three months ago) link

the Special Interest is fairly compelling but it is another album that seems to regard melody as some sort of bourgeois luxury

that is probably more cutting than it needs to be as I am rather enjoying the sonics!

imago, Monday, 29 June 2020 20:55 (three months ago) link

You mean the Sonics band or the sonics of the (latest?) Special Interest album?

dow, Monday, 29 June 2020 21:27 (three months ago) link

the latter!

imago, Monday, 29 June 2020 21:39 (three months ago) link

new emamouse is outstanding

https://emamouse.bandcamp.com/album/--3

imago, Friday, 3 July 2020 23:48 (three months ago) link

^this rules

special interest record is r good for summer humid walks

nxd, Tuesday, 14 July 2020 15:04 (three months ago) link

Would Memnon Sa fit in here? I mean one could put the new record in a lot of different categories, but I think it's tunefully weird and can't stop listening to it?

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 17:14 (three months ago) link

Newish WaqWaq Kingdom is getting a lot of play at my house these days, this is the single and by far the most "normal" track on the record. Maybe better for deconstructed club, but I think it's a bit too tuneful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uho_3qWJIBw

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Thursday, 16 July 2020 23:06 (three months ago) link

one month passes...

https://open.spotify.com/track/60fbYOyOnb3FiYdByuF2mT?si=fGn6NqmqTVuxQ0N7NfhtAQ

Sewerslvt
Breakbeats and moody synths

calstars, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 00:09 (two months ago) link

I like this...I don't use Spotify, but is it the "Draining Love Story" record? If so, some of this is Bobbins worthy!

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 01:38 (two months ago) link

oh yes i have opinions on this record :)

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 01:40 (two months ago) link

Do tell!

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 01:42 (two months ago) link

Yes, draining love story
https://geometriclullaby.bandcamp.com/album/draining-love-story

calstars, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 01:44 (two months ago) link

wow @ lexapro delirium

nxd, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 17:27 (two months ago) link

Do tell!

― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table)

ok, here's what i wrote

https://weirdthingsonbetamax.blogspot.com/2020/05/reviews-of-couple-of-2020-albums.html

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 18:01 (two months ago) link

Thanks Kate! I like how you're able to see the value of the expression while ruing the circumstances that brought it to the fore.

I dig this a lot, downloaded and listened to late last night. Reminds me of a strange mish-mash of the E-Saggila hard techno, near-gabber sound and the Nathan Micay record's queer anime preoccupations.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 18:09 (two months ago) link

great review thanks kate

nxd, Wednesday, 19 August 2020 08:50 (two months ago) link

Stan Brakhage, "The Test of Time." A series of twenty half-hour radio shows featuring incredible music and insightful commentary, hosted by Brakhage in 1982 for University of Colorado KAIR radio [MP3]:http://www.ubu.com/sound/brakhage.html

dow, Wednesday, 19 August 2020 23:43 (two months ago) link

gahhhhhh not sure whether to thank you there or not

sleeve, Thursday, 20 August 2020 01:06 (one month ago) link

pro: amazing
con: timesuck of the highest order

sleeve, Thursday, 20 August 2020 01:07 (one month ago) link

was out when he started playing ruggles, lol

that said program 15 where he just does a whole bunch of bird songs sounds worthwhile

and he does eventually get around to the dead in the last program :)

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 20 August 2020 01:32 (one month ago) link

Stan Brakhage, "The Test of Time." A series of twenty half-hour radio shows featuring incredible music and insightful commentary, hosted by Brakhage in 1982 for University of Colorado KAIR radio [MP3]:http://www.ubu.com/sound/brakhage.html

― dow, Wednesday, August 19, 2020 6:43 PM (ten minutes ago)

awesome, thank you! i'm listening to episode 3, while using this transcript as a reference: https://www.fredcamper.com/Brakhage/TestofTime.html

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Thursday, 20 August 2020 01:33 (one month ago) link

and he does eventually get around to the dead in the last program :)

definitely haven't gotten that far and probably never will, but it's "That's It For the Other One"! going back to the roots

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Thursday, 20 August 2020 01:35 (one month ago) link

some of you might like this album rolling punk 2020

flopson, Thursday, 20 August 2020 06:47 (one month ago) link

Am I the only person who hasn't been converted to the Dead?

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, 20 August 2020 12:14 (one month ago) link

nah, most people haven't; i got plenty of friends who shake their heads when i start talking dead

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 20 August 2020 13:48 (one month ago) link

Thanks Dow, that is an awesome find.

calstars, Thursday, 20 August 2020 14:15 (one month ago) link

i'm not into the dead fwiw

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 20 August 2020 15:27 (one month ago) link

xpost You're welcome; I should check ubuweb more often, mostly wait 'til I catch one of their tweets. Don't know if the Harry Bertoia thread is weird enough for this one, but here's a similar approach to HB's, nice palate cleanser anyway, though my dog doesn't agree:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmrER-1_G9o If it doesn't show, search YouTube for Teaching a Stone to Sing.

dow, Thursday, 20 August 2020 17:52 (one month ago) link

Reading the text of Brakhage’s show it reminds me of the conversational tone of Nicholson Baker’s writing, also something about the simply joy of discovering and sharing things of interest

calstars, Thursday, 20 August 2020 18:28 (one month ago) link

LOVE the singing stones

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 20 August 2020 19:41 (one month ago) link

found a short doc on Sciola pretty quickly, queuing it up now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkq33RNZpL4

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 20 August 2020 19:43 (one month ago) link

Cool, thx, I came across his shortie whille looking for the film that Sonny Sharrock said Sun Ra showed him, about teaching statues to sing and/or speak. No luck w that yet.
also, do you know these threads?
Harry Bertoia

BERTOIA c/d
Good pix and discussion of some of the albums and other artifacts. What I really like is seeing his creations perform while I'm listening, usually some examples on youtube. He also designed and maybe constructed other things, like furniture and jewelry, prob. non-singing, but wouldn't put it past him.

dow, Thursday, 20 August 2020 23:44 (one month ago) link

whoa sewerslvt! I sent that to tim and brad earlier this year lol not sure they liked it but apparently i thought it was interesting enough to send ... going to revisit it

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 20 August 2020 23:58 (one month ago) link

It’s great

calstars, Friday, 21 August 2020 01:00 (one month ago) link

Good to know I'm not the only one still skeptical of the Dead.

Respect their fans' contributions to bootleg culture quite a lot, though I truly just don't "get" the music itself. And I really love wanky improv stuff— I have a lot of No-Neck Blues Band records, ffs. I think I just fall more on the electronics, noise and free jazz side of improv, tbh.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Friday, 21 August 2020 14:56 (one month ago) link

admittedly I am only a recent convert to being a stoner but (at least so far) stoned or sober I would rather listen to actual drone music or actual rock music than some mutant amalgam of the two

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Friday, 21 August 2020 14:58 (one month ago) link

Same!

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Friday, 21 August 2020 15:15 (one month ago) link

Velvet Underground---?

dow, Friday, 21 August 2020 15:21 (one month ago) link

lord I've tried

I don't think for me it has anything to do w/ the specific genre of improv....I took am into NNCK, Jackie O Motherfucker et al...even willfully slipshod "bad" playing e.g. Maher Shalal Hash Baz

my brain just cannot square the way these guys play together. With most improv, jazz or not—even super minimalist stuff like AMM—I'm conscious of an invisible baseline of togetherness somewhere. Like a subtext of tightness, something the band is deviating from. I never have any sense of that with the Dead.

I have wondered over the years if I would feel the same way if they never made an attempt at rock music...like they seem so incapable of swinging when they try to, and I am subconsciously biased/aware of that when they listening to the exploratory stuff.

syphilitic wolf prose errata (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 21 August 2020 15:37 (one month ago) link

when they listening

syphilitic wolf prose errata (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 21 August 2020 15:38 (one month ago) link

i wonder how much of it is expectations? ... like, as you say, it's not about "improv" -- it sounds like you have certain expectations (or at least aesthetic preferences) of rock music and acceptable adjacent sounds ... whereas the other stuff is subject to different expectations/aesthetics

sorry for butting in

sarahell, Friday, 21 August 2020 18:26 (one month ago) link

Lol we have a thread for this... it’s probably still on sna ffs

brimstead, Friday, 21 August 2020 18:45 (one month ago) link

I mean I would like to think at this point in life it’s not about expectations...I generally try to re-approach art that my friends and peers like that doesn’t click for me generously and from a bunch of different angles. I’ve had the experience of a band not matching my expectations and then recalibrating and returning and being totally win over.

I mean I also grew up with the Dead in the air, I had the early records in HS and went to a state school in NE where they are/were ubiquitous, took the requisite acid trip at a stadium show etc. And I like their whole ethos—am attracted to the idea of that subculture.

I just can’t find a way in.

syphilitic wolf prose errata (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 21 August 2020 18:56 (one month ago) link

xp I had been reading but steering clear of posting in the Dead thread respectfully, it seems like it’s rolling along w/ real heads and I like that

syphilitic wolf prose errata (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 21 August 2020 18:59 (one month ago) link

though maybr this is better for "Bands you keep trying to like but can't get into"

syphilitic wolf prose errata (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 21 August 2020 19:01 (one month ago) link

idk i just approach things from the "it's okay if i don't like music i'm supposed to like" perspective and move on ... maybe it's worth analyzing why i don't, maybe that's what's going on with y'all? I generally only do this when it's the music of someone i know personally, and what I think of their music might actually affect them? ... there are definitely a whole cadre of ppl that are into 21st century alt-jam bands that have been recently mentioned here, that won't go near the Dead -- personally, I don't see that big of a difference between them ... but I'm of the "not really a fan of either type" though I find it pleasant enough

sarahell, Friday, 21 August 2020 19:10 (one month ago) link

I mean the Dead are one of those bands I'm totally "it's okay I don't like this." But I guess generally speaking it has something to do w/ appetite...I'm sometimes reluctant to give up entirely on something other ppl whose opinions I respect are into, in the hopes of expanding/developing my own sensibilities

syphilitic wolf prose errata (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 21 August 2020 19:19 (one month ago) link

Am I the only person who hasn't been converted to the Dead?

No. Every time I've tried listening to the Dead, I get maybe a minute or two into it until I realize: why am I listening to this when I can listen to Bardo Pond instead?

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 21 August 2020 19:34 (one month ago) link

it’s ok if you don’t like the dead... is it ok if I like the dead?

brimstead, Friday, 21 August 2020 19:42 (one month ago) link

I never in a million zillion years thought I’d EVER listen to Tom Waits by choice but here I am getting really into heart of Saturday night. Wtf.

brimstead, Friday, 21 August 2020 19:43 (one month ago) link

i have always liked Tom Waits

sarahell, Friday, 21 August 2020 19:43 (one month ago) link

listened to Rain Dogs in full for the first time in decades a week or two back, good times

sleeve, Friday, 21 August 2020 19:48 (one month ago) link

sleeve -- who was that british guitar dude that did that home concert a month or so ago? fish something or other?

sarahell, Friday, 21 August 2020 19:50 (one month ago) link

Is this Grateful Dead? Why does everyone call them The Dead?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 21 August 2020 19:52 (one month ago) link

great question Robert Adam Gilmour, can i call you Bob?

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Friday, 21 August 2020 19:57 (one month ago) link

I have no problem with people who are into the Dead. Just don't try to convince me, it's been done too many times.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Friday, 21 August 2020 19:59 (one month ago) link

xp lol

sarahell, Friday, 21 August 2020 19:59 (one month ago) link

xps Pat Fish a.k.a. The Jazz Butcher!!

sleeve, Friday, 21 August 2020 20:01 (one month ago) link

yes!! I remember something related to Jazz -- that was quite nice!

meanwhile I kinda just want to listen to TFUL282 I Hope It Lands on repeat -- why? idk

sarahell, Friday, 21 August 2020 20:03 (one month ago) link

that is the best TFUL282 album

went through that Stan Brakhage series 10 years ago, it comes to mind at the oddest moments, every episode is good

been ransacking everything at this website: http://theatticmag.com/features/2337/'this-is-not-intentionally-music'.-a-cedrik-fermont-interview.html

found website through googling Svitlana Nianio

Milton Parker, Friday, 21 August 2020 20:11 (one month ago) link

& sarahell, you see this?

https://pleasekillme.com/pink-section-inflatable-boy-clams/

Milton Parker, Friday, 21 August 2020 20:12 (one month ago) link

I keep thinking it must be a different band and it seems like an affectionate name only big fans would use.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 21 August 2020 20:13 (one month ago) link

Is this Grateful Dead? Why does everyone call them The Dead?

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, August 21, 2020 12:52 PM (nineteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

sorry, i mistyped, meant The Gay Dad

brimstead, Friday, 21 August 2020 20:14 (one month ago) link

milty -- i got the reissues of those back when my band was a duo -- so 2014? 2015? ... Inflatable Boy Clams was a fave of my bandmate, whose ex-gf is, I think, dating that one guy from the 19th century bullshit band

sarahell, Friday, 21 August 2020 20:17 (one month ago) link

Whenever I try giving the Dead another chance I end up listening to the Paul Butterfield Blues Band’s ‘East-West’ for the 23806th time.

pomenitul, Friday, 21 August 2020 20:22 (one month ago) link

oh, that reissue came out before "flyergate" -- I think I stopped buying Superior V1aduct releases after flyergate ... geez, it seems surreal to think about the innocent times of flyergate compared to the election, G.S., ... now ...

sarahell, Friday, 21 August 2020 20:26 (one month ago) link

xxxp lol

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Friday, 21 August 2020 20:28 (one month ago) link

Dadheads

sarahell, Friday, 21 August 2020 20:28 (one month ago) link

anyway -- the way she sings "horrible mistake" on that song ... sigh, the best.

sarahell, Friday, 21 August 2020 20:31 (one month ago) link

Oh mom, get back to me, bring me some snacks
What I want to do in Marin is to relax
Oh yeah I dig Marin, the views... are good
And everything is bettering me, I mean I feel, yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah

Milton Parker, Friday, 21 August 2020 20:50 (one month ago) link

God, I love Inflatable Boy Clams.

emil.y, Friday, 21 August 2020 21:24 (one month ago) link

Same here. I remember playing them for a date once and he was so obsessed with I'm Sorry that we listened to it a few times while getting ridiculously baked. We set the fire alarm off lol

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Friday, 21 August 2020 23:12 (one month ago) link

Sarahell will know this person, too, which helps make the story funnier for the two of us.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Friday, 21 August 2020 23:13 (one month ago) link

omg who?!!!!!

table is the table was at the first gig my band played!

sarahell, Friday, 21 August 2020 23:26 (one month ago) link

the way she sings "horrible mistake" on that song ... sigh, the best.

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3

sleeve, Friday, 21 August 2020 23:49 (one month ago) link

best fucking band

sleeve, Friday, 21 August 2020 23:50 (one month ago) link

at the 2004 reunion show in PDX this dude got up on stage, went around, and hugged each member individually. random fan otm.

sleeve, Friday, 21 August 2020 23:50 (one month ago) link

(I got tons of love for IBC as well, but y'know there's only like 5 songs or w/e)

sleeve, Friday, 21 August 2020 23:51 (one month ago) link

Sarahell, he's in the Y0ung3r Lover5

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Saturday, 22 August 2020 00:41 (one month ago) link

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

sarahell, Saturday, 22 August 2020 03:25 (one month ago) link

some of you might like this album rolling punk 2020
― flopson, Thursday, August 20, 2020 2:47 AM (six days ago)

I came here to post the home blitz. It's great.

billstevejim, Wednesday, 26 August 2020 19:09 (one month ago) link


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