wildflowers: the new york loft jazz sessions

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Wildflowers – The New York Jazz Loft Sessions ist eine Serie von fünf Jazz-Alben, aufgenommen in wechselnden Besetzungen zwischen dem 14. und dem 23. Mai 1976 im New Yorker RivBea-Studio von Sam Rivers und 1977 zuerst veröffentlicht bei Douglas Music und Casablanca Records. Erstmals 1999 erschienen die Aufnahmen als 3-CD-Edition.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
amed abdullah, charles brackeen, mashujaa, leroy seals, rickie evans, rashied sinan - blue phase 2
hamiet bluiett, olu dara, butch campbell, billy patterson, don moye, charles bobo shaw, juney booth - tranquil beauty 2
sunny murray + the untouchable factor fear. byard lancaster - over the rainbow 1
andrew cyrille + maono - short short 1
kalaparusha, chris white, jumma santos - jays 0
julius hemphill, abdul wadud, bern nix, don moye, phillip wilson - pensive 0
jimmy lyons, karen borca, hayes burnett, henry maxwell letcher - push pull 0
oliver lake, michael jackson, fred hopkins, phillip wilson - zaki 0
david murray, olu dara, fred hopkins, stanley crouch - shout song 0
sunny murray + the untouchable factor - something's cookin 0
dave burrell, stafford james, harold smith - black robert 0
michael jackson, oliver lake, fred hopkins - clarity two 0
randy weston, alex blake, azzedin weston - portrait of frank edward burton 0
ken mcintyre, richard harper, andrei strobert, andy vega - new times 0
sam rivers, jerome hunter, jerry griffin - rainbows 0
henry threadgill, fred hopkins, steve mccall - uso dance 0
flight to sanity - the need to smile 0
ken mcintyre, richard harper, andrei strobert, andy vega - naomi 0
anthony braxton, george lewis, michael jackson, fred hopkins, barry altschul - 73ª -s kelvin 0
marion brown, jack gregg, jumma santos - and then they danced 0
leo smith + the new dalta ahkri - locomotif no 6 0
roscoe mitchell, don moye, jerome cooper - chant 0


j., Wednesday, 30 January 2019 00:42 (five years ago) link

ho boy

budo jeru, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 00:59 (five years ago) link

love this thing. I want a physical copy, needs to be reissued. Just got my BYG Actuel 3cd box, so things aren't that bad.

nicky lo-fi, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 12:07 (five years ago) link

I might go with "tranquil beauty"

It reminds me of some sexy Sidney Bechet slow burn.

nicky lo-fi, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 12:15 (five years ago) link

https://culturevulture.net/books-cds/wildflowers-the-new-york-loft-jazz-sessions/

our friend phil is right, fred hopkins is all over

- and it's GOOD that he is, i think -

j., Friday, 1 February 2019 01:56 (five years ago) link

That review was used as liner notes when these albums were reissued by Douglas a few years ago. Naturally, I didn't find out until I bought the thing for myself, and I never received a dime.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 1 February 2019 02:25 (five years ago) link

I have one of these on vinyl - with Stanley Crouch on drums!

Johan Lif, Friday, 1 February 2019 12:41 (five years ago) link

Crouch actually acquits himself well on his tracks. He came to NYC as David Murray's drummer; not sure when/why he did a 180 and decided he hated the new music.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 1 February 2019 14:40 (five years ago) link

I feel like I'd be more likely to vote for one of the five LPs as originally released than any specific track; all the individual tunes vary so much in tone and approach, which is one of my favorite things about this collection. That said, "Jays' is hard to beat for an opener.

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 1 February 2019 17:49 (five years ago) link

xpost Crouch was a or the mentor to Favid Murray in Cali, but then came the moment he first visited New York as a 20 year-old student, playing in a walkup loft, in 1975,, Murray's moment, that is, according to the bio on his site, and he soon relocated to NYC, but not before Crouch ran interference, possibly challenged by his own need to succeed in the Jazz Capital, and in context of his subsequent career alreadu quite the hard-charging control freak, not surprising he became the righteous, increasingly reactionary jazz purist, sneering at Steve Coleman and others favorably presented elsewhere in the Voice, from which he got fired after attacking Harry Allen for being an advocate and associate of for instance Public Enemy---rap was crack, and PE's Chuck D was even a known leftist! Attack was the last straw, ditto calling the success of Dave Douglas inflated by racism, which got him fired from Jazziz---although the last time I saw him in there, he still approved of Ornette Coleman, and Coltrane, I think (Cecil Taylor not so much).
Lots more, like pandering to The New Republic during their contra-loving etc. etc. Shit Years, but that goes beyond ILM-relevance. Sad considering his musical talent, but it just wasn't enough to suit him.

dow, Friday, 1 February 2019 19:52 (five years ago) link

I have enjoyed some of Crouch's music criticism even when I haven't agreed with his opinions and conclusions (see also Phil Larkin)

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 1 February 2019 19:57 (five years ago) link

Crouch's Charlie Parker bio (the first of two volumes, I believe) is absolutely stellar. The only thing that keeps it from being flawless is the occasional completely random swipe at hip-hop (I'm paraphrasing, but it's along the lines of, "Parker dug in, realizing it would take arduous practice to achieve his goal. You know who never practices? Those rap so-called 'artists'!")

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 1 February 2019 20:07 (five years ago) link

Oh yeah, bop hegemony is his thing, and I guess he might hear Coleman and 60s Coltrane as an extension of that, but yeah talented as a writer too, even with the tangents & 'tude (like Mailer and Jones/Baraka, although I like them better).

dow, Friday, 1 February 2019 20:34 (five years ago) link

Presenting bop *as* hegemony, that is, and I mean nothing against Bird in that--but it was prob part of what made him attractive to righteous young Wynton (who has since done his own tribs to Ornette and become a cultivated entertainer, for that matter, like with United We Swing: Best of the Jazz at Lincoln Center Galas and the albums with Willie Nelson etc)

dow, Friday, 1 February 2019 20:42 (five years ago) link

Another apostate, eh Stanley?

dow, Friday, 1 February 2019 20:43 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Wednesday, 27 February 2019 00:01 (five years ago) link

oh crap

j., Wednesday, 27 February 2019 00:29 (five years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Thursday, 28 February 2019 00:01 (five years ago) link

sorry, really wish i would’ve had time to revisit this !!

budo jeru, Thursday, 28 February 2019 01:09 (five years ago) link

i gave myself a month and i even listened to the whole thing several times over, but i didn't have enough time either : /

j., Thursday, 28 February 2019 01:54 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

Maybe someone here knows: if I own the 1995 Gravity 2xCD reissues, do I need the 2005 box? I'm assuming no remastering was done, but I might take the plunge if there's a packaging upgrade, maybe a cool booklet or something, as I can't seem to find my copies of the Gravity CDs at the moment. It can still be found used for under $50...

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 12 April 2019 20:06 (five years ago) link


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