Could we please be objective cause the other POLLS are queuing up behind us - Artist Poll #94 - Belle & Sebastian - RESULTS

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52 ballots, 140 track selections.
40 also conveyed opinions on the question of best albums, and 27 on the best EPs.

We'll start with the sub-polls, but this seems a good place for a Spotify link for the eventual track rollout:

https://open.spotify.com/user/empeecee/playlist/4AEQhTWsUuc2FMJIsVScBi?si=OOZanxXxQPqBEc7UcSc5pA

Thanks to Alba and eephus! for the thread title!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 11:54 (one year ago) link

Hadn't time to vote, sadly, but stoked for the madness!

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 11:56 (one year ago) link

Hell yeah

resident hack (Simon H.), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 11:58 (one year ago) link

wow that's a fantastic turnout! looking forward to this

ufo, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 12:00 (one year ago) link

Could be a slow start, but I'll try to get through this lot before I retire for the evening.

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Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 12:04 (one year ago) link

This is the only really important vote this week

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 12:06 (one year ago) link

10. (TIE)

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Storytelling (June 2002)
Points: 1
Votes: 1
#1 Votes: 0

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God Help the Girl (June 2009)
Points: 1
Votes: 1
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 12:07 (one year ago) link

This list will, in fact, outline everything that got a vote.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 12:09 (one year ago) link

9.
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Belle and Sebastian Write About Love (October 2010)
Points: 8
Votes: 3
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 12:17 (one year ago) link

such a pretty sounding album but that's about the right place for it

ufo, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 12:21 (one year ago) link

Stoked! It’s been a long time since I voted in an ILM poll, but I just love this band too damn much not to do it.

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 12:23 (one year ago) link

This is one I massively underestimated before this exercise. I'd heard it, a number of times, but nothing quite stuck with me in the past. As I hinted on the other thread, I now have much of it swimming around head in quiet moments.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 12:25 (one year ago) link

around MY head.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 12:25 (one year ago) link

8.
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Girls in Peacetime Want to Dance (January 2015)
Points: 17
Votes: 9
#1 Votes: 1

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 12:29 (one year ago) link

So guessing How to Solve Our Human Problems didn't get any votes?

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 12:33 (one year ago) link

Not much of a spoiler, I guess: no, not as a compilation of the three parts. A mere five slots to fill is frightfully limiting though, so unsurprising.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 12:42 (one year ago) link

7.
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The Life Pursuit (February 2006)
Points: 23
Votes: 12
#1 Votes: 1

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 12:45 (one year ago) link

So far, so good.

Mark G, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 12:49 (one year ago) link

with the exception of song for sunshine, nothing but bangers

devvvine, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 12:51 (one year ago) link

Voted for both of these last two, glad to see I'm far from the only one.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 12:52 (one year ago) link

Good to see Storytelling get a vote (even if it wasn't me)

enochroot, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 12:54 (one year ago) link

6.
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Fold Your Hands Child, You Walk Like a Peasant (June 2000)
Points: 30
Votes: 13
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:03 (one year ago) link

i'm a little surprised this one did better than The Life Pursuit. i don't really care much for either but i think this is the right way around though

ufo, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:06 (one year ago) link

Stevie Jackson on "Fold Your Hands Child":
"For a long time, this was my least favourite record because it was such a miserable time making it. I just hated that period. It was a rudderless operation and there was a lot of intrigue going on with the band. It was the end of the 90s so you had just endless studio time and budgets that no longer exist and I just remember being in there forever and it being a really obscene waste of time. An album emerged from it eventually..."

enochroot, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:07 (one year ago) link

one thing that really stands out about it is all the harpsichord

ufo, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:10 (one year ago) link

uneven but women's realm -> family tree -> there's too much love is a perfect piece of sequencing

devvvine, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:14 (one year ago) link

If we were submitting our 10 favourite B&S LPs, FYHCYWLAP would have been my #10

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:14 (one year ago) link

but yeah, women's realm and ttml are pretty great

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:16 (one year ago) link

FYH beating TLP is a travesty but I didn't submit an album list so I'm partly to blame.

resident hack (Simon H.), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:19 (one year ago) link

When it came out, I think I resented Stuart for not writing all the songs.

enochroot, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:20 (one year ago) link

*extremely me voice* girls in peacetime is also better than fold your hands

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:20 (one year ago) link

girls in peacetime just missed my ballot, i was definitely surprised by it

ufo, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:22 (one year ago) link

one thing that really stands out about it is all the harpsichord

yeah it's the most baroque-pop they ever got. my favorite non-comp b&s album these days

J. Sam, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:26 (one year ago) link

Speaking of which, purists holding the opinion that compilations don't really count are invited to avert their gaze...

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:29 (one year ago) link

I've tried listening the The Life Pursuit, I really have. But I just can't understand how anyone could rank it above FYHCYWLAP. Before the Sunrise is bad, but it's not bad enough to sink the whole album! I guess there are just people who want a very different thing out of this band and that's all well and good!

Alba, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:29 (one year ago) link

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Push Barman to Open Old Wounds (singles compilation, May 2005)
Points: 73
Votes: 22
#1 Votes: 4

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:30 (one year ago) link

The nadir of FYHC.. for me is the opening to The Wrong Girl, Beyond The Sunrise is fine.

I ummed and ahhed about voting for Push Barman but ultimately, just look at what's on it.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:33 (one year ago) link

Yeah, I voted for it, and I've never actually listened to it (just to the EP's that comprise it)

enochroot, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:34 (one year ago) link

Yes, felt a bit weird putting Push Barman as my #2 even though I don't own it and still don't think I've ever listened to it from start to finish, but that's compilations for you.

I forgot Beyond the Sunrise's name it's so bad. Well it would be fine as a B-side I guess.

Alba, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:35 (one year ago) link

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Dear Catastrophe Waitress (October 2003)
Points: 79
Votes: 29
#1 Votes: 2

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:52 (one year ago) link

wow too low! classic nearly the whole way through

ufo, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:52 (one year ago) link

I was expecting a few more #1 votes. Still, it was on almost 3/4 of ballots.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:55 (one year ago) link

Yeah, now that i'm looking at the track list again, I feel like I should have had it higher in my list.

Top 3 prediction:
Arab Strap, Tigermilk, Sinister

enochroot, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:57 (one year ago) link

prefer peacetime and the ones that have placed since to arab strap

devvvine, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:00 (one year ago) link

3.
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The Boy with the Arab Strap (September 1998)
Points: 92
Votes: 33
#1 Votes: 5

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:14 (one year ago) link

this has some incredible highs but it's way more inconsistent than the first two and DCW

ufo, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:15 (one year ago) link

I was surprised to find myself not voting for TABBYWARS, but though I like most of the tracks and it's sequenced well, I just don't go back to it, in the end it was shunted out by The Life Pursuit

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:16 (one year ago) link

The Boy with the Arab Strap #1's Unite!

ヽ(_ _ヽ)彡 ᴵ'ᵐ ᵒᵏᵃʸ_(・_ .)/ (FlopsyDuck), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:20 (one year ago) link

What is TABBYWARS?

enochroot, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:22 (one year ago) link

I've never liked Boy with the Arab Strap, kind of mystified by the high placement. Girls in Peacetime and The Life Pursuit deserve to be higher.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:23 (one year ago) link

will concede that 'it could have been a brilliant career' is an incredible way to start a record

devvvine, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:24 (one year ago) link

xp ufo
I think The Boy with the Arab Strap is their most consistent album so...

ヽ(_ _ヽ)彡 ᴵ'ᵐ ᵒᵏᵃʸ_(・_ .)/ (FlopsyDuck), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:24 (one year ago) link

For a lot of people (myself included), it was their first real exposure to the band, which counts for a lot.

enochroot, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:25 (one year ago) link

I tend to think a lot of the post-two-classics albums from B&S are about equal to each other, they all have some really good, some good, quite a lot of mundane, and a few questionable numbers. Which is partly why it's a great band to poll imo. The later albums are also just less known / familiar.

Nabozo, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:33 (one year ago) link

TWATTYBUS was my highest ranked conventional album (Barman was #1) after a cold scientific calculation of the raw number of favourite tracks on each. Didn't feel quite right somehow, but I went with science anyway.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:35 (one year ago) link

these acronyms are killing me lol

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:38 (one year ago) link

TWATTYBUS!

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:38 (one year ago) link

TUBBYBEERS has a couple classics but also a lot of riff raff.

SA, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:39 (one year ago) link

I didn't vote in the albums poll but don't get the distaste for FYTCHYWALLOP

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:45 (one year ago) link

did anyone ever ask the Glaswegians from the band Arab Strap what they thought of this album title? (or "Space Boy Dream," which deliberately cribs their whole deal)

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:50 (one year ago) link

they're from Falkirk, not Glasgow, my bad

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:50 (one year ago) link

i thought they were supposed to have been annoyed by it because people kept thinking it was a collaboration?

ufo, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:51 (one year ago) link

When questioned about it, Arab Strap's leader/singer, Aidan Moffat, said "They have a sense of humour." Malcolm Middleton, the band's instrumentalist, added, "Because Arab Strap is quite an interesting name. The words go well together. That's why we chose it as a band name. We're friends with them, but there's a limit to putting someone else's name on an album. They're taking away something from us." He also mentioned that the album had been confused as a collaboration between the bands

devvvine, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:51 (one year ago) link

I didn't vote in albums, I had to hustle to get tracks in. But no controversy here.

campreverb, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:55 (one year ago) link

Nor here, I suspect:

2.
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Tigermilk (June 1996)
Points: 116
Votes: 38
#1 Votes: 7

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:57 (one year ago) link

1.
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If You're Feeling Sinister (November 1996)
Points: 159
Votes: 38
#1 Votes: 20

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 15:04 (one year ago) link

Tigermilk has IDLA which is super classic. SM really HIOOTP with that one.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 15:05 (one year ago) link

GOAT

devvvine, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 15:06 (one year ago) link

20 #1 votes out of 40 total. That's what politicians call a "mandate"

enochroot, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 15:08 (one year ago) link

Ha! I just looked on eBay to see how much original copies of Tigermilk were going for these days, and the actual stuffed animal from the album cover just sold for $18,500. LOL fans.

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 15:08 (one year ago) link

BBCODTV

Mark G, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 15:09 (one year ago) link

I am one of the two non-Sinister-voters, who are you, other misfit?

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 15:20 (one year ago) link

LOL @ enochroot.

Being in a silly timezone I will pause at this point and endeavour to resume with EPs on Thursday morning, AEDT. (so...probably not before 8PM Wednesday, GMT.)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 15:22 (one year ago) link

Stoked for this!

I can't see the images!

I had Arab Strap at #1! (I don't objectively think it's the best but I can't shake the feeling of what it did to me at the time.)

Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 15:36 (one year ago) link

Easy Chinaski, I thought we had an agreement we'd be objective.

Nabozo, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 15:42 (one year ago) link

Fallen at the first (tartan) hurdle.

Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 15:43 (one year ago) link

Your favorite between sinister v tigermilk comes down to which one you heard first, I’d guess.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 15:44 (one year ago) link

No, I heard Sinister in full before I heard Tigermilk

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 15:48 (one year ago) link

I voted Sinister but not Tigermilk. Heard Sinister first FWIW.

Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 15:51 (one year ago) link

Fold Your Hands was the album that rose the most in my estimation while re-listening, though not enough to place top 5.

eva logorrhea (bendy), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 16:18 (one year ago) link

I think I first heard Tigermilk, Sinister and Arab Strap within the same week or month

ヽ(_ _ヽ)彡 ᴵ'ᵐ ᵒᵏᵃʸ_(・_ .)/ (FlopsyDuck), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 16:25 (one year ago) link

52 ballots! wtf this band isn't *that* good

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 16:27 (one year ago) link

incorrect

devvvine, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 16:31 (one year ago) link

but seriously has anyone else put out as many deftly crafted pop songs in the last quarter century?

devvvine, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 16:33 (one year ago) link

they’re that good

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 16:35 (one year ago) link

they're grrrrrrrrreat!

J. Sam, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 16:45 (one year ago) link

Shall we post our albums votes then?

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 16:47 (one year ago) link

I actually had (have!) a cassette taped from the original Tigermilk vinyl release by Pam from Chickfactor, beat that, hipsters.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 16:59 (one year ago) link

speaking of chickfactor, solo stevie jackson then the softies was probs the best show i saw last year

devvvine, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 17:05 (one year ago) link

52 ballots! wtf this band isn't *that* good

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, December 12, 2018 4:27 PM (thirty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is like the second or third ILM poll I’ve ever voted in!

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 17:06 (one year ago) link

I... didn't know you could vote for MC Push Barman for LPs!

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 17:07 (one year ago) link

that one I never bought since I already had the EPs

Dan S, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 17:10 (one year ago) link

push barman was the only two cd's in my car for a good year

devvvine, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 17:11 (one year ago) link

I've never actually owned Push Barman. It arrived today.

Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 17:16 (one year ago) link

I am one of the two non-Sinister-voters, who are you, other misfit?


Alas I was nearly a misfit. Sneaked into my ballot at 5.

avoid drinking on an empty liver (fionnland), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 18:19 (one year ago) link

Who didn't vote for Tigermilk?

avoid drinking on an empty liver (fionnland), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 18:19 (one year ago) link

Apart from Dan.

avoid drinking on an empty liver (fionnland), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 18:22 (one year ago) link

52 ballots! wtf this band isn't *that* good

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, December 12, 2018 4:27 PM (thirty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Almost 3 times as good as the entire P-Funk catalogue ;_;

It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christ (Tom D.), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 18:27 (one year ago) link

I actually had (have!) a cassette taped from the original Tigermilk vinyl release by Pam from Chickfactor, beat that, hipsters.

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, December 12, 2018 4:59 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That is pretty cool! I was wondering last week whether bootlegs of Tigermilk circulated in the three(!) years before it got a proper release or was it just this sort of mythical unheard thing.

Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 18:51 (one year ago) link

I definitely had a cassette dub of Tigermilk too, don't remember who dubbed it for me. I do remember it circulating in that period.

erasingclouds, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 19:00 (one year ago) link

I had a cassette of Tigermilk! Definitely before you could buy a CD of it in the store. And there was definitely an "oh my god I HAVE THIS" aspect to it.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 19:08 (one year ago) link

I had a dubbed cassette version that had been passed around and was of questionable fidelity, it was written up in high praise by either Jenny Toomey (or Franklin Bruno?) in Puncture Magazine and I put out some ISOs. The Matador crew hooked me up.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 19:14 (one year ago) link

It was Jenny Toomey's article circa 1997. Franklin's piece came out later, around the time they toured NYC for the first time around Sinister. I remember FB made a note that SM changed the TSTIAMI lyric from "turning tables round in Marks & Spencer" to "Sears & Roebuck" lol.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 19:23 (one year ago) link

Rolling Stone's 20 Best Metal Albums of 2018

Normally wouldn't care but my boys Frontierer got in again!

avoid drinking on an empty liver (fionnland), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 19:38 (one year ago) link

the boy done wrong again

devvvine, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 19:39 (one year ago) link

been one of those days eh

avoid drinking on an empty liver (fionnland), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 19:41 (one year ago) link

first cup of coffee tasted like washing up

avoid drinking on an empty liver (fionnland), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 19:44 (one year ago) link

Hey this may be a dumb question but did anyone here see the 1 hour Pitchfork doc on the making of If You're Feeling Sinister? It's stellar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4de-RHHLCBA

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 20:04 (one year ago) link

Okay, time to run through the EPs perhaps?

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 20:30 (one year ago) link

yee

J. Sam, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 20:34 (one year ago) link

you be the driver

avoid drinking on an empty liver (fionnland), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 20:38 (one year ago) link

Sorry, slight technical issues. I'll skip the intended image...

Part Two: EPs

27 ballots received. As with albums, voters submitted ranked 5 selections. Scoring was a simple 5,4,3,2,1.

Any release with 3 to 5 tracks was eligible.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 20:46 (one year ago) link

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9. How to Solve Our Human Problems (Part 1) (December 2017)
Points: 2
Votes: 2
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 20:47 (one year ago) link

Er, "5 ranked selections" rather.

Again, this list includes everything that received a vote.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 20:49 (one year ago) link

i watched the sinister doc and it is really excellent!

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 20:50 (one year ago) link

the artwork for the 3 Human Problems EPs is their very worst imo. if you're going to feature monochromatic randos, at least give them enough space to do something interesting for the camera!

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 20:55 (one year ago) link

*lines up all 3 EPs*

"but you don't understand, now there are TWELVE monochromatic randos doing nothing!"

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 20:56 (one year ago) link

It's not great. I believe the cover stars were fans, so it may have involved more more deliberation than their average cover!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:10 (one year ago) link

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8. Legal Man (May 2000)
Points: 10
Votes: 5
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:17 (one year ago) link

Where it all started going wrong.

Alba, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:21 (one year ago) link

Where it all started going wrong groovy.

J. Sam, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:23 (one year ago) link

judy and her dream of dickslaps

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:24 (one year ago) link

this is not my favorite B&S EP

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:24 (one year ago) link

I dug the title track. But the others were their first to actually feel like B-sides to me.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:28 (one year ago) link

I was listening to Push Barman a few days ago and I realized that the Legal Man single is all garbage. If I had actually bought it at the time I woulda been pissed.

sacral intercourse conducive to vegetal luxuriance (askance johnson), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:28 (one year ago) link

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7. I'm Waking Up To Us (November 2001)
Points: 24
Votes: 8
#1 Votes: 2

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:33 (one year ago) link

Sorry, that's actually 3 first-place votes. I can respect that position. All three tracks are possibly a tad under-rated. (Or under-heard?)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:49 (one year ago) link

agreed. voted for two of these on my traxx poll and the third barely missed the cut.

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:55 (one year ago) link

5. (TIE)

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Jonathan David (June 2001)
Points: 32
Votes: 14
#1 Votes: 0

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Books (June 2004)
Points: 32
Votes: 12
#1 Votes: 3

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 22:01 (one year ago) link

A tie on total points, at least. The former was on more than half of ballots. The latter received several first-place votes. Pick your own winner if you wish.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 22:02 (one year ago) link

judy and her dream of dickslaps

ha

the salacious inaudible (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 22:06 (one year ago) link

a lot of people who don't like "winter wooskie" itt

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 22:07 (one year ago) link

you're all wrong

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 22:07 (one year ago) link

jonathan david is my vote for the best non-classic single. "carriage clock" AND "middle distance runner"???? my god

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 22:08 (one year ago) link

^ Yeah, what he said.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 22:33 (one year ago) link

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4. This Is Just a Modern Rock Song (December 1998)
Points: 67
Votes: 20
#1 Votes: 6

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 22:35 (one year ago) link

^ Yeah, what he said.

― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, December 12, 2018 3:33 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this isn't me correcting you angrily or anything, it's extremely not a big deal and hard to figure out even from context, but for future notice i go by they/them

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 22:42 (one year ago) link

Oh, indeed! I was in furious agreement about Jonathan David! :)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 22:45 (one year ago) link

And then I didn't even read that properly. Now I have!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 22:46 (one year ago) link

books was my number 1 and all three original tracks made my top 12 (i do love cover (version) too, consider it lumped in with your cover's blown)

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 23:04 (one year ago) link

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3. 3.. 6.. 9 Seconds of Light (October 1997)
Points: 75
Votes: 23
#1 Votes: 6

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 23:06 (one year ago) link

Books was my number one, Jonathan Davis my number two, Modern my number three. I really love the first two EPs but they each strike me as one stellar song with a couple good ones and a bad one.

avoid drinking on an empty liver (fionnland), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 23:13 (one year ago) link

Incidentally, I think the tracks rollout shall start at #60, because:

(i) everything has >10 votes out to around that point
(ii) there's an interesting mix of stuff between 50 and 60
(iii) more opportunity to annoy ILM's unbelievers than with 50

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 23:19 (one year ago) link

i think 369 seconds of light is easily the best of the first three eps, ok i guess they’re all hits so it doesn’t matter

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 23:24 (one year ago) link

Oh Nag can you also disclose which album track from pre-hiatus didn't get a vote (assuming it didn't in the final ballots)? That's been bugging me.

avoid drinking on an empty liver (fionnland), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 23:24 (one year ago) link

369 was my #1 too, even though the lead track (or at least the one that got a promo video) was probably my least favourite of that era.

I'll disclose right now which track missed out, because it's probably more of a technical thing than a quality thing: "Act of the Apostle II." Some votes for "AotA" might have implied support for both parts.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 23:36 (one year ago) link

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2. Dog on Wheels (May 1997)
Points: 77
Votes: 24
#1 Votes: 4

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 23:41 (one year ago) link

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1. Lazy Line Painter Jane (July 1997)
Points: 84
Votes: 25
#1 Votes: 5

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 23:42 (one year ago) link

These last few kept swapping places right up to yesterday. There ultimately wasn't a huge amount it.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 23:44 (one year ago) link

"IN it."

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 23:45 (one year ago) link

369 was my favorite too. couldn't decide which songs from it to put on my tracks list, ended up with Beautiful and Put the Book Back on the Shelf but it could have been any of the four

Dan S, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 23:56 (one year ago) link

I need to perform some last minute quality control checks on the tracks ballot. And I've only just grasped the final positions for the first few. I shall endeavour to commence that bit some 9-10 hours from now. (Perhaps late morning, Greenwich Mean Time!?!)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 00:04 (one year ago) link

Amazing work so far. I'd had 3..6..9 top too and it wasn't really a tough decision. Can't wait for the tracks results.

Alba, Thursday, 13 December 2018 05:40 (one year ago) link

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Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 09:37 (one year ago) link

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60. I Don't Love Anyone
From Tigermilk (1996)
Live at Bowlie Weekender, 1999
Points: 156
Votes: 11
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 09:44 (one year ago) link

I should arguably have had someone competent do graphics, but it turns out I *really* like adding tints to dorky band portraits.

I get the impression at least one person will find this placement disappointing.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 09:48 (one year ago) link

That would've been my number 1, if I'd voted. Way too low obv.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 13 December 2018 10:02 (one year ago) link

damn... forgot to vote!

frame casual (dog latin), Thursday, 13 December 2018 10:10 (one year ago) link

I like it a lot, but do find it to be one of the weaker tracks on a really great albums.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 13 December 2018 10:11 (one year ago) link

How can multiple people have forgotten to vote and yet we have so many ballots?

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 13 December 2018 10:11 (one year ago) link

I didn't forget but hadn't time

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 13 December 2018 10:12 (one year ago) link

one of the more minor tracks on Tigermilk but that means it's still really quite good

ufo, Thursday, 13 December 2018 10:16 (one year ago) link

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59. If You Find Yourself Caught in Love
From Dear Catastrope Waitress (2003)
Live at Glastonbury, 2015
Points: 157
Votes: 9
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 10:19 (one year ago) link

the whole end section of this one is a delight

ufo, Thursday, 13 December 2018 10:30 (one year ago) link

Is this one Stuart's coming-out-as-a-christian song?

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 13 December 2018 10:36 (one year ago) link

noh, we always knew..

Mark G, Thursday, 13 December 2018 10:37 (one year ago) link

I recognised all the religious metaphors from my Catholic upbringing, but imagined he was just using them as a source of vivid imagary, right up to this point.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 13 December 2018 10:38 (one year ago) link

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58. I Want the World to Stop
From Belle and Sebastian Write About Love (2010)
Original promo video
Points: 158
Votes: 11
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 10:42 (one year ago) link

My Tigermilk choices were a bit more arbitrary than those for other albums. In retrospect I should maybe have picked I Don't Love Anyone, just on the basis of how often I've found myself singing it since relistening to the album.

Alba, Thursday, 13 December 2018 10:48 (one year ago) link

All songs in the countdown so far have started with the letter I. How long can this carry on?

Alba, Thursday, 13 December 2018 10:49 (one year ago) link

Love Sarah Martin's vocals on Caught in Love, especially the 'give up your will' bit. The simple village girl verse is far more embarrassing than anyone's religion though.

Brand Slipper, Thursday, 13 December 2018 10:50 (one year ago) link

I think some of Write About Love is very much in the same vein as their early stuff. I Want The World To Stop probably is my favorite 2010’s B&S next to I Didn’t See It Coming

ヽ(_ _ヽ)彡 ᴵ'ᵐ ᵒᵏᵃʸ_(・_ .)/ (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 13 December 2018 10:52 (one year ago) link

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57. The Blues Are Still Blue
From The Life Pursuit (2006)
Original promo video
Points: 168
Votes: 13
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 11:02 (one year ago) link

^ I was generally avoiding front covers for this bit, as we've seen a lot of them already, but then I saw this charming TBASB promo CD cover.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 11:03 (one year ago) link

Can I put in the first "too low!" here?

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 13 December 2018 11:06 (one year ago) link

Too high!

Alba, Thursday, 13 December 2018 11:09 (one year ago) link

That will be my last piece of carping about my dislike of The Life Pursuit. Sorry.

Alba, Thursday, 13 December 2018 11:11 (one year ago) link

the blues rock thing they do on this one really does nothing for me

ufo, Thursday, 13 December 2018 11:11 (one year ago) link

I'm generally down with The Life Pursuit but I seem to get the least mileage out of the Bolan-esque bits.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 11:12 (one year ago) link

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56. I Fought in a War
From Fold Your Hands Child, You Walk Like a Peasant (2000)
Live at Glastonbury, 2004
Points: 177
Votes: 13
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 11:22 (one year ago) link

Wish I'd voted to drive the Blues higher. It's such a festival of sweet supporting details and goofy vocal tics. But then I'm in the minority who think that Side A of TLP is the best sequencing they ever did. Weird that people don't like its big pay-off moment.

Brand Slipper, Thursday, 13 December 2018 11:23 (one year ago) link

I like I Fought in a War a lot but it does have one fatal flaw: the implausible concept of Stuart Murdoch having fought in a war.

Alba, Thursday, 13 December 2018 11:29 (one year ago) link

Fold Your Hands - so many good songs jumbled up with some very bad songs. I Fought In a War serves as a promising intro though.

frame casual (dog latin), Thursday, 13 December 2018 11:32 (one year ago) link

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55. Put the Book Back on the Shelf
From 3.. 6.. 9 Seconds of Light (1997)
Youtube audio track
Points: 178
Votes: 12
#1 Votes: 1

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 11:37 (one year ago) link

...incorporating "Songs for Children" on record. Though I don't think anyone made any reference to that section on ballots.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 11:42 (one year ago) link

Also: too low!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 11:44 (one year ago) link

yes, a serious "too low!" now, a top 5 for me easily, such a joy from start to finish this one

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 13 December 2018 11:45 (one year ago) link

I mentioned Songs for Children!

Alba, Thursday, 13 December 2018 11:52 (one year ago) link

Yes, I see you did! I guess I meant that no-one highlighted it as the main attraction or indicated that they were voting principally for SFC. :)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 11:59 (one year ago) link

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54. I Know Where the Summer Goes
From This is Just a Modern Rock Song (1998)
Live at Bowlie Weekender, 1999
Points: 179
Votes: 13
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 12:02 (one year ago) link

I'd have voted for PTBBOTS anyway but the SFC coda pushed it way up my ballot.

Alba, Thursday, 13 December 2018 12:03 (one year ago) link

one of many very lovely songs that didn't quite make my ballot. the This Is Just A Modern Rock Song EP is definitely my favourite EP - it's so delightful the whole way through while even Lazy Line Painter Jane has an oddity like A Century of Elvis on it

ufo, Thursday, 13 December 2018 12:14 (one year ago) link

good morning!

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 December 2018 12:16 (one year ago) link

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53. Beautiful
From 3.. 6.. 9 Seconds of Light (1997)
Youtube audio track
Points: 181
Votes: 10
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 12:25 (one year ago) link

Arguably a bit much seventies knitwear in this section. Definitely a lot of too-low-ness as well.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 12:28 (one year ago) link

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52. Ease Your Feet in the Sea
From The Boy With the Arab Strap (1998)
Youtube audio track
Points: 187
Votes: 11
#1 Votes: 1

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 12:42 (one year ago) link

a longtime ex had an interpolation of this as her email so I couldn't in good conscience give it any points

resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 13 December 2018 12:48 (one year ago) link

Image not necessarily related to this particular song, but they seemingly spent more than a little time in Hyndland Parish Church in '97/'98.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 12:58 (one year ago) link

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51. Is It Wicked Not to Care?
From The Boy With the Arab Strap (1998)
Original promo video
Points: 206
Votes: 12
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 13:00 (one year ago) link

good song for singing at home because you can just adlib freely, ie "is it wicked not to care about the vacuum in the air \\ and how the shampoo in the bathroom's beyond compare?"

L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 13 December 2018 13:02 (one year ago) link

Must try this.

Alba, Thursday, 13 December 2018 13:05 (one year ago) link

Quoting the name of this track got me blocked from Lena Dunham's Twitter.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 13 December 2018 13:06 (one year ago) link

what?!

resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 13 December 2018 13:11 (one year ago) link

She posted a pic of her book Is It Evil Not to be Sure? and I replied "Is It Wicked Not To Care?" and was immediately blocked.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 13 December 2018 13:17 (one year ago) link

That promo video of Isobel singing the song to a stuffed lion might be the most B&S thing I've ever seen.

enochroot, Thursday, 13 December 2018 13:18 (one year ago) link

What does Isobel mean by "counting acts"? She uses the phrase in both IIWNTC and The Gate.

Alba, Thursday, 13 December 2018 13:23 (one year ago) link

XP: Innit. I fiddled around trying to capture suitable frames for ages this week. :)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 13:24 (one year ago) link

I've just remembered when Isobel turned up to a cafe I was in with that cuddly lion.

Alba, Thursday, 13 December 2018 13:24 (one year ago) link

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50. Dress Up in You
From The Life Pursuit (2006)
Unidentified TV footage
Points: 209
Votes: 10
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 13:25 (one year ago) link

OH NO! Wait...

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 13:25 (one year ago) link

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50. Dress Up in You
From The Life Pursuit (2006)
Unidentified TV footage
Points: 209
Votes: 10
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 13:27 (one year ago) link

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49. I Didn't See It Coming
From Belle & Sebastian Write About Love (2010)
Promo video for the Richard X remix
Points: 216
Votes: 13, including one vote specifically for the Richard X remix.
#1 Votes: 1

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 14:05 (one year ago) link

I'm concerned that's going to be Sarah's only entry.

Alba, Thursday, 13 December 2018 14:09 (one year ago) link

wow i thought this one would be much higher, it's right up with their very best. it builds so well the whole way through but when it really gets going in the middle section when the synth line comes in is fantastic

ufo, Thursday, 13 December 2018 14:09 (one year ago) link

Huh. A #1 vote even...

enochroot, Thursday, 13 December 2018 14:11 (one year ago) link

Dress Up In You would be a lot higher if I'd voted. A LOT higher.

frame casual (dog latin), Thursday, 13 December 2018 14:19 (one year ago) link

“i didn’t see it coming” is way too low

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 December 2018 14:20 (one year ago) link

dress up in you was my #6. the least life pursuit-y track on life pursuit. the horn solo kills me (a theme on my ballot)

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 December 2018 14:20 (one year ago) link

both way too low!!

resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 13 December 2018 14:21 (one year ago) link

Voted for I Didn't See It Coming, easily the best thing on that Write About Love, have not heard that remix before, not bad but not a patch on the original IMO

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 13 December 2018 14:24 (one year ago) link

i thought "i didn't see it coming" would show up somewhere in the top 30, that's where that sort of late career highlight often falls, but i guess this band really just has too many good songs

ufo, Thursday, 13 December 2018 14:25 (one year ago) link

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48. Jonathan David
From Jonathan David (2001)
Original promo video
Points: 221
Votes: 12
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 14:28 (one year ago) link

ok I'm gonna have to stop myself from saying "too low!!" every time

resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 13 December 2018 14:28 (one year ago) link

"beautiful" is prob my biggest "too low," i love everything about that song

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 December 2018 14:32 (one year ago) link

I have swung a few times between love and hate for this one, the harmonies in last minute or so are perfection, but afraid I find everything about the vocal/lyric sort of embarrassing for some reason.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 13 December 2018 14:33 (one year ago) link

glad people voted for "ease your feet into the sea" which fell off the edge of my ballot

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 December 2018 14:33 (one year ago) link

Obviously know the song and album but I still had to look up "Ease Your Feet," which I did not recognize by title alone.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 13 December 2018 14:36 (one year ago) link

looks like a lot of the ones people big-upped on the voting thread are placing around now...

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 December 2018 14:37 (one year ago) link

I was the #1 vote for "Didn't See it Coming". Easily my most listened song by them over the past...ten years? Perfect vocals!

john. a resident of evanston. (john. a resident of chicago.), Thursday, 13 December 2018 14:38 (one year ago) link

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47. Photo Jenny
From Lazy Line Painter Jane (1997)
Live at Bowlie Weekender, 1999
Points: 228
Votes: 16
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 14:46 (one year ago) link

Just noticed it, but it sounds like Photo Jenny quotes "Wichita Lineman" with that guitar line at about 2:30?

enochroot, Thursday, 13 December 2018 14:49 (one year ago) link

Didn't make my 30 but the way he sings "Get some fish and chips / La la la la la / What's on the box? 'Man about the house' with Paula Wilcox" is hard to beat.

Alba, Thursday, 13 December 2018 14:50 (one year ago) link

Now this I expected to be much higher. Think perhaps the twee name / subject matter distracts from quite how good it is.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 13 December 2018 14:51 (one year ago) link

I've no idea what comment he's making about gender or sexuality in this song. Or really anything about what he's getting out apart from wanting a photo of Jenny.

Alba, Thursday, 13 December 2018 14:52 (one year ago) link

love this song, also fell off of my ballot

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 December 2018 14:53 (one year ago) link

I Know Where the Summer Goes is too low! Delicious melancholy.

Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Thursday, 13 December 2018 14:56 (one year ago) link

the most obvious reading of 'photo jenny' to me is that it's from the perspective of a trans woman but it's not the clearest narrative

ufo, Thursday, 13 December 2018 14:57 (one year ago) link

it's 1995, the girls are just friends

J. Sam, Thursday, 13 December 2018 15:05 (one year ago) link

I love this one.

Didn't make my 30 but the way he sings "Get some fish and chips / La la la la la / What's on the box? 'Man about the house' with Paula Wilcox" is hard to beat.

― Alba, Thursday, 13 December 2018 14:50 (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think out of all their songs this is the B&S moment that pops into my head most frequently.

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 13 December 2018 15:05 (one year ago) link

the girls are holding hands
don't be a fool
it's 1995, the girls are just friends

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 December 2018 15:07 (one year ago) link

b&s, my favorite weirdly religious but also weirdly super gay band

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 December 2018 15:07 (one year ago) link

glad people voted for "ease your feet into the sea" which fell off the edge of my ballot

It was my number one.

Didn't make my 30 but the way he sings "Get some fish and chips / La la la la la / What's on the box? 'Man about the house' with Paula Wilcox" is hard to beat

Agreed.

the salacious inaudible (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 13 December 2018 15:08 (one year ago) link

it feels a little weird that "straight to the point of boring" man stuart murdoch wrote so many songs with very queer narratives, but i guess i appreciate it?

ufo, Thursday, 13 December 2018 15:15 (one year ago) link

I suppose it fits in with his self-styled ME origin story, but so much of his songwriter self is vicarious - the effete voyeur too afraid to touch the ground lives through the experiences of others.

Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Thursday, 13 December 2018 15:17 (one year ago) link

dress up in you was my #6. the least life pursuit-y track on life pursuit.

i had it at #8. a little shocked at how low it is. i love the life pursuit, but this song kind of towers over the rest of the album.

J. Sam, Thursday, 13 December 2018 15:21 (one year ago) link

loving the images! voted for these so far, of which the first and last two are, as they say, too low:

If You Find Yourself Caught in Love
The Blues Are Still Blue
I Fought in a War
I Know Where the Summer Goes
Beautiful
Dress Up in You

devvvine, Thursday, 13 December 2018 15:21 (one year ago) link

xps That's such a bland point. I guess it's a rejoinder to folk who I've heard say his whole schtick is appropriative and sinister.

Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Thursday, 13 December 2018 15:22 (one year ago) link

I thought it was well put.

Alba, Thursday, 13 December 2018 15:23 (one year ago) link

You're a star now / I am fixing people's nails

frame casual (dog latin), Thursday, 13 December 2018 15:25 (one year ago) link

And you've suddenly made me think of Stuart Murdoch in this era as a Harvey Darger like figure with his Story of the Vivian Girls.

Alba, Thursday, 13 December 2018 15:26 (one year ago) link

"Dress Up In You" is one of their most convincing character studies.

resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 13 December 2018 15:27 (one year ago) link

have had 2 show up, Is it wicked not to care and I know where the summer goes.
somewhat surprised by the former.

campreverb, Thursday, 13 December 2018 15:27 (one year ago) link

Henry Darger, I mean!

Alba, Thursday, 13 December 2018 15:30 (one year ago) link

Not Harvey Danger?

Vinnie, Thursday, 13 December 2018 15:33 (one year ago) link

i've got a boyfriend
i've got the feeling that he's seeing someone else
he always had a thing for you as well

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 December 2018 15:34 (one year ago) link

That's what was infecting it in my brain, Vinnie!

Alba, Thursday, 13 December 2018 15:34 (one year ago) link

"I am sick and I'm not well"

Mark G, Thursday, 13 December 2018 15:34 (one year ago) link

This lip dub brought "The Blues are Still Blue" to my attention and ensured a spot on my ballot. Wonder if the staff or the students chose the song? Laundry as a metaphor for romantic befuddlement works for me on it's own.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB-1BFWWkcU

eva logorrhea (bendy), Thursday, 13 December 2018 15:37 (one year ago) link

I wonder if the Darger thing does hit home in some ways. As in the music is always about the outside, yet Murdoch was always too self-aware to truly be outside anything.

Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Thursday, 13 December 2018 15:51 (one year ago) link

Didn't manage to vote for "Photo Jenny," how could I not have? Expect i'm gonna have this feeling a lot.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 13 December 2018 16:16 (one year ago) link

i'm waking up to us this poll

Karl Malone, Thursday, 13 December 2018 17:01 (one year ago) link

so far i voted for...

i don’t love anyone
i want the world to stop
i fought in a war

I like I Fought in a War a lot but it does have one fatal flaw: the implausible concept of Stuart Murdoch having fought in a war.

so otm. also, let me say without evidence that i fought in a war led directly to the decemberists

Karl Malone, Thursday, 13 December 2018 17:04 (one year ago) link

"Photo Jenny" was my #5. I'm amazed people are confused by the subject matter! But I agree with Chinaski's reading as SM's allegory for defeating ME (going out of the house) as coming out as trans.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 13 December 2018 17:13 (one year ago) link

Just catching up. My 3 was I Don't Love Anyone. I thought that would be much, much higher.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 13 December 2018 17:16 (one year ago) link

that lip dub made me happy, thanks bendy

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 December 2018 17:20 (one year ago) link

yes that was nice

Dan S, Thursday, 13 December 2018 17:25 (one year ago) link

Jonathan David is too low!!!

the one on this list so far that I most regret not voting for is I Didn't See It Coming

Dan S, Thursday, 13 December 2018 17:35 (one year ago) link

My overall thoughts after a deep Belle and Sebastian immersion for this poll: their faster ones are much better than their slow ones.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 13 December 2018 17:37 (one year ago) link

funny, I was thinking about that too, but my feeling ultimately leaned to the opposite

Dan S, Thursday, 13 December 2018 17:39 (one year ago) link

obv a lot of exceptions on both sides

Dan S, Thursday, 13 December 2018 17:39 (one year ago) link

actually I guess it's more complicated than that for me, maybe it's that I'm attracted to their sadder / more reflective songs, fast or slow

Dan S, Thursday, 13 December 2018 17:46 (one year ago) link

One question about the Photo Jenny video from 1999 Bowlie Weekender posted upthread, Isobel is playing bass, what is Stuart David doing?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 13 December 2018 17:47 (one year ago) link

Think he was already a part-time member by then, though he didn't officially leave until a year or two later

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 13 December 2018 17:53 (one year ago) link

I think he's sitting down playing acoustic guitar. You can see it at about the one minute mark. XP

sacral intercourse conducive to vegetal luxuriance (askance johnson), Thursday, 13 December 2018 17:54 (one year ago) link

Ugh so annoyed w/myself for not getting a ballot in, would have voted for the majority of songs starting with I that have placed so far.

JoeStork, Thursday, 13 December 2018 18:03 (one year ago) link

My overall thoughts after a deep Belle and Sebastian immersion for this poll: their faster ones are much better than their slow ones.

― kornrulez6969

What do you listen to more often, upbeat or slow songs?

ヽ(_ _ヽ)彡 ᴵ'ᵐ ᵒᵏᵃʸ_(・_ .)/ (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 13 December 2018 18:22 (one year ago) link

or to put it another way, do your most favorite songs tend to be upbeat or slow?

ヽ(_ _ヽ)彡 ᴵ'ᵐ ᵒᵏᵃʸ_(・_ .)/ (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 13 December 2018 18:25 (one year ago) link

Fast, but it depends on the band. There are plenty of slow Belle and Sebastian songs that I love but the fast ones are the ones I gravitate to most.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 13 December 2018 18:28 (one year ago) link

not a huge fan of post-'dear catastrophe waitress,' but i'm still in grieving for how low some of my (few) more-recent favorites placed! 'dress up in you,' 'i want the world to stop,' and 'didn't see it coming' are all gorgeous!

KevRus, Thursday, 13 December 2018 19:12 (one year ago) link

DCW didn’t rate on my albums ballot, but The Life Pursuit did.

naus, Thursday, 13 December 2018 19:21 (one year ago) link

The Bolan-esque one up there ^^^ reminded me why I find The Life Pursuit such a slog.

Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Thursday, 13 December 2018 19:23 (one year ago) link

I've voted for Beautiful, Ease your Feet into the Sea, I didn't see it coming, and I want the world to stop, so I feel like a good boy so far. I must say I sadly missed Dress up in you.

Nabozo, Thursday, 13 December 2018 19:30 (one year ago) link

I voted for Photo Jenny and Beautiful (which I somehow put at #5!). Wish I could have found room for Ease your Feet into the Sea and Jonathan David.

sacral intercourse conducive to vegetal luxuriance (askance johnson), Thursday, 13 December 2018 19:31 (one year ago) link

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46. There's Too Much Love
From Fold Your Hands Child, You Walk Like a Peasant (2000)
Live at Barrowlands
Points: 238
Votes: 15
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 19:42 (one year ago) link

My no.7!

Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Thursday, 13 December 2018 19:43 (one year ago) link

Oh looks like we're back on!

enochroot, Thursday, 13 December 2018 19:43 (one year ago) link

I didn't intend to stop when I did, but brain demanded sleep quite suddenly. I'll post a few more...

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 19:48 (one year ago) link

been meaning to look up the local time in australia, because i've been unable to wrap my head around when the poll results go quiet or active.

enochroot, Thursday, 13 December 2018 19:57 (one year ago) link

this is their best closer imo. it's too much low

J. Sam, Thursday, 13 December 2018 20:00 (one year ago) link

There's Too Much Love is maybe my favourite on that album. I love it when they get a bit Northern Soul

frame casual (dog latin), Thursday, 13 December 2018 20:05 (one year ago) link

XXP: Nor I, really. Been trying to get vaguely close to some of ILM's peak times without being awake at 4am. :)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 20:07 (one year ago) link

I like it as long as it's as sad as this. Another of my favourite SM deliveries in "With my face head down just staring at the brown form-i-ca"

Xpost

Alba, Thursday, 13 December 2018 20:07 (one year ago) link

I want to like "There's Too Much Love" more than I do because of its use in the lovely queer film The Way He Looks, but it just seems kind of ordinary to me.

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Thursday, 13 December 2018 20:18 (one year ago) link

^ I noticed such snippets amongst the homemade Youtube vids. Lots of them. Must see this film.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 20:23 (one year ago) link

Dammit I really should've voted for "There's Too Much Love", genuinely baffled looking over my ballot and not finding it. I apologise to everyone for my part in it's TOOLOWness.

Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Thursday, 13 December 2018 20:25 (one year ago) link

44. TIE

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It Could Have Been a Brilliant Career
From The Boy With the Arab Strap (1998)
Youtube audio track
Points: 244
Votes: 15
#1 Votes: 0

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I'm Waking Up to Us
From I'm Waking Up to Us (2001)
Live on 'Later With Jools Holland'
Points: 244
Votes: 18
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 20:28 (one year ago) link

xp The only possible explanation I have is that I didn't even glance at FYHCYWLAP, just went by memory "save Woman's Realm and BURN THE REST", but this is really top 10 stuff...

Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Thursday, 13 December 2018 20:29 (one year ago) link

For a few seconds I thought that was superman in the wheel chair

ヽ(_ _ヽ)彡 ᴵ'ᵐ ᵒᵏᵃʸ_(・_ .)/ (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 13 December 2018 20:33 (one year ago) link

I always find I'm Waking Up to Us a bit too uncomfortable -- especially in that video. That's some real dirty laundry.

sacral intercourse conducive to vegetal luxuriance (askance johnson), Thursday, 13 December 2018 20:33 (one year ago) link

It Could Have Been a Brilliant Career is, of course, brilliant, though I don't think I quite found room for it in my ballot.

sacral intercourse conducive to vegetal luxuriance (askance johnson), Thursday, 13 December 2018 20:34 (one year ago) link

If There's Too Much Love is this low I've got a nasty feeling my favourite Fold Your Hands track of all, Don't Leave the Light on Baby, is nowhere at all.

Alba, Thursday, 13 December 2018 20:35 (one year ago) link

i love i'm waking up to us, great song title, appealingly melodramatic. a clear tribute to forever changes, but it nearly does it justice.

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 December 2018 20:35 (one year ago) link

xp Alba

i doubt that. i put it way up on my ballot, at least

Karl Malone, Thursday, 13 December 2018 20:36 (one year ago) link

appealingly melodramatic

This is the key, you can pretty much here the swooning

Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Thursday, 13 December 2018 20:40 (one year ago) link

*hear

Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Thursday, 13 December 2018 20:40 (one year ago) link

I'm Waking Up to Us is great but I always want to spoil it by singing "You know I love you, here's the ironing".

Alba, Thursday, 13 December 2018 20:40 (one year ago) link

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43. Another Sunny Day
From The Life Pursuit (2006)
Live at Lowlands Festival, 2006
Points: 248
Votes: 12
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 20:58 (one year ago) link

'herbaceous border' appears in too few songs.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 20:59 (one year ago) link

I don't love the later stuff but this song is great. Good arrangement and playing, really highlights what a strong band they had become at this point

bunny slopes, Thursday, 13 December 2018 21:00 (one year ago) link

don't know if this is a Challop but Dear Catastrophe Waitress is a significantly better album than Boy with The Arab Strap

frame casual (dog latin), Thursday, 13 December 2018 21:02 (one year ago) link

chocolate on the boil, steamy windows when we met

devvvine, Thursday, 13 December 2018 21:04 (one year ago) link

xp think most would agree here

devvvine, Thursday, 13 December 2018 21:05 (one year ago) link

The playing on TLP is so good that I felt compelled to look up whether or not they'd brought in any session players and was surprised to find they hadn't

resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 13 December 2018 21:05 (one year ago) link

TOO LOW!!!

Infidels, Like Dylan In The Eighties (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 13 December 2018 21:07 (one year ago) link

Stevie's guitar just sings on it. I rated it at #13

bunny slopes, Thursday, 13 December 2018 21:09 (one year ago) link

yeah i'm not here for the TLP slander. Another Sunny Day stands up to any melody in their catalog and it fits comfortably in the middle parts of my ballot

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 December 2018 21:13 (one year ago) link

Fantastic song. 'The referee's giving us fuck all'.

Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Thursday, 13 December 2018 21:21 (one year ago) link

I'd even say TLP is better than Arab Strap. I'm not saying I don't like Arab Strap it's just got a good bunch of unmemorable or annoying songs amongst the good stuff

frame casual (dog latin), Thursday, 13 December 2018 21:22 (one year ago) link

i realize this is kind of sacrilege on a B&S thread, but does anyone else get kind of burned out on the horn+piano instrumental passages that features on so many of their songs? after the 100th time of hearing it they all kind of blur together

Karl Malone, Thursday, 13 December 2018 21:23 (one year ago) link

that's half of my problem with a song like "Dress Up In You", tbh. it's all very nice but when the trumpet comes in again it's just exhausting

Karl Malone, Thursday, 13 December 2018 21:23 (one year ago) link

you are correct that is sacrilege

resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 13 December 2018 21:25 (one year ago) link

Yeah, I never get tired of the trumpet. Though I guess Mick Cooke left the band a few years ago, so there should be less of it in the future?

sacral intercourse conducive to vegetal luxuriance (askance johnson), Thursday, 13 December 2018 21:26 (one year ago) link

I was just thinking that re the next entry. The trumpet solos, for instance, are good in themselves but they've inserted them in a similar fashion across quite a number of songs.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 21:27 (one year ago) link

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42. My Wandering Days Are Over
From Tigermilk (1996)
Live at KCRW
Points: 257
Votes: 16
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 21:28 (one year ago) link

Fantastic song. 'The referee's giving us fuck all'.

An unlikely complaint from a(n alleged) Rangers fan tbh.

It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christ (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 December 2018 21:28 (one year ago) link

it's not even just the fact that the trumpet features so prominently. it's that they all have the same kind of style. you know what i'm talking about.

Belle & Sebastian trumpet solo time!

Derp, derp, derp-y dah dah!
(da) derp, derp, derpy doodle doop-y dah!
Derp, derp, derp-y dah dah!
(da) derp, derp-ah doop-y do-daaah!

sorry

Karl Malone, Thursday, 13 December 2018 21:30 (one year ago) link

I really wanted to vote for My Wandering Days Are Over but the "disenchanted pony" part is a bit too twee even for me. The rest of it is amazing though.

sacral intercourse conducive to vegetal luxuriance (askance johnson), Thursday, 13 December 2018 21:31 (one year ago) link

'louvre doors' appears in too few songs.

Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Thursday, 13 December 2018 21:32 (one year ago) link

i love My Wandering Days Are Over but it didn't my ballot. possibly due to this trumpet solo. i should really try to explain what i dislike about it, probably

Karl Malone, Thursday, 13 December 2018 21:33 (one year ago) link

I really wanted to vote for My Wandering Days Are Over but the "disenchanted pony" part is a bit too twee even for me. The rest of it is amazing though.


I could have written exactly these words! Maybe the central song in SM's early B&S lyrical world. I feel a bit ashamed for not voting for it.

Alba, Thursday, 13 December 2018 21:34 (one year ago) link

The trumpet solos are what I'm here for tbh

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 13 December 2018 21:34 (one year ago) link

You are not alone, Karl Malone.

The trumpet (nor tweeness, LOL XP) wasn't enough to stop me from voting for 'Wandering' however.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 21:35 (one year ago) link

Oh god, the trumpets invariably make me weak at the knees.

Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Thursday, 13 December 2018 21:36 (one year ago) link

I'm enjoying Karl's trumpet tirade. I can't get on board with it but it's hard to argue against.

Alba, Thursday, 13 December 2018 21:36 (one year ago) link

the trumpet solos usually just follow the vocal melody, don't they? Idk, it's usually my favorite part of the B&S songs where they show up, including "My Wandering Days Are Over," my #5

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 December 2018 21:37 (one year ago) link

Always remember "you said it was a living hell / you said you were in hell" - he sounds so shocked, like it was a throwaway comment but he has taken it really fucking seriously.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 13 December 2018 21:38 (one year ago) link

Could really find a, er, banging vid for 'Wandering'. I'm trying not to duplicate what's on Spotify where possible, but that vid's a bit tepid tbh.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 21:40 (one year ago) link

I'd never thought of it that way. I'll remember that next time I listen. Xpost

Alba, Thursday, 13 December 2018 21:41 (one year ago) link

Ah shit I meant to come back to ILX for this and now that I've sat down to do it it's already done!

Gukbe, Thursday, 13 December 2018 21:50 (one year ago) link

welcome back, Gukbe!

Dan S, Thursday, 13 December 2018 21:57 (one year ago) link

seems like Gukbe should at least get a little fanfare for their return, and actually i do have a pleasant melody that could work...*reaches for trumpet*

Karl Malone, Thursday, 13 December 2018 22:00 (one year ago) link

lol

Dan S, Thursday, 13 December 2018 22:02 (one year ago) link

Corrected link for There's Too Much Love at the Barrowlands

Belated tooOOOOoo low for this and 'It Could Have Been A Brilliant Career' (my #4 - though I did have suspicions it would not crack top 30)

Your dad's Carlos Boozer and you keep him alive (fionnland), Thursday, 13 December 2018 22:09 (one year ago) link

Whoops, thanks for that.

I have to do some actual boring daytime stuff for a bit but I'll resume countdown within the next couple of hours, probably at a fairly leisurely pace.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 22:12 (one year ago) link

this is the first real "too low" for me. I think it's one of their classics, trumpet solo and all. I like how ridiculously over the top the chorus lyrics are. He was very much about establishing their brand in the early days, and this establishes the hell out of it.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 13 December 2018 22:53 (one year ago) link

Love the trumpet. Imagine if they had gone full-kazoo instead!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 13 December 2018 22:57 (one year ago) link

this is the first real "too low" for me. I think it's one of their classics, trumpet solo and all. I like how ridiculously over the top the chorus lyrics are. He was very much about establishing their brand in the early days, and this establishes the hell out of it.

― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, December 13, 2018 5:53 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm. tooooo loooooow

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 December 2018 23:07 (one year ago) link

My Wandering Days Are Over... what a song. I'm surprised it's so low. The opening lines pop into my head on an almost weekly basis. 'I'm tired of looking after Michael and the rest of them...'. The verses are especially brilliant although the chorus maybe takes the wind out its sails slightly
I'm kicking myself that I didn't vote

frame casual (dog latin), Thursday, 13 December 2018 23:32 (one year ago) link

'disenchanted poney' otm. I was going through a few B&S guitar tabs, doing covers for myself in the kitchen, and when it came to this song and that bit I just couldn't carry on through the song.

frame casual (dog latin), Thursday, 13 December 2018 23:35 (one year ago) link

I'm Waking Up To Us is too low. I LOVE that song. So funny.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 13 December 2018 23:36 (one year ago) link

Always remember "you said it was a living hell / you said you were in hell" - he sounds so shocked, like it was a throwaway comment but he has taken it really fucking seriously.

― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, December 13, 2018 9:38 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh but during this bit I welled up slightly while singing it and couldn't catch my breath for the stupid 'poney' section, which is actually the reason I probably had to stop playing

frame casual (dog latin), Thursday, 13 December 2018 23:38 (one year ago) link

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41. Seymour Stein
From The Boy With the Arab Strap (1998)
Stevie Jackson solo in NY
Points: 258
Votes: 14
Number Ones: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 13 December 2018 23:41 (one year ago) link

this is one of the nothingy songs on Arab Strap I was talking about

frame casual (dog latin), Thursday, 13 December 2018 23:42 (one year ago) link

i like all of these songs

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 December 2018 23:47 (one year ago) link

I don't think of this song as nothingy. besides the greatness of the song itself, the piano, organ, guitar, handclaps, and syncopation in the outro to this - and the sound of the airplane taking off - always get to me

Dan S, Thursday, 13 December 2018 23:55 (one year ago) link

This is the song the record store guy who looks like me in High Fidelity plays, and for that reason I can never play it in front of anyone again

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 13 December 2018 23:56 (one year ago) link

:) I had forgotten about that scene!

Dan S, Friday, 14 December 2018 00:10 (one year ago) link

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40. Piazza, New York Catcher
From Dear Catastrophe Waitress (2003)
At Lollapalooza Berlin, 2015
Points: 271
Votes: 19
#1 Votes:: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 00:17 (one year ago) link

Wow, I'm legitimately surprised by this. Figured it was a lock for the top ten.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 14 December 2018 00:19 (one year ago) link

such a great song

Dan S, Friday, 14 December 2018 00:19 (one year ago) link

didn't vote for it, tho i do feel bad for mike piazza and his treatment at the hands of the ny sports tabloids

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 December 2018 00:20 (one year ago) link

life outside the diamond is a wrench

Dan S, Friday, 14 December 2018 00:21 (one year ago) link

poor stuart forgetting the words at lolla

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 December 2018 00:23 (one year ago) link

you know, this is one of those ones people bang on about that I do not get the appeal of. not a highlight for me on an otherwise excellent album

frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 14 December 2018 00:24 (one year ago) link

Agreed. Think it might be my least favourite on the LP.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 14 December 2018 00:33 (one year ago) link

Never liked this one tbh

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 14 December 2018 00:35 (one year ago) link

SS otoh was in my top 5, gorgeous song, incredible outro as mentioned

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 14 December 2018 00:37 (one year ago) link

music-wise it's one of the rare later B&S tracks that feels like it could come from one of the early albums. and I love how it skips over the real life Mike Piazza into a private reverie

Dan S, Friday, 14 December 2018 00:37 (one year ago) link

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39. We Rule the School
From Tigermilk (1996)
Mark Radcliffe session 1996
Points: 276
Votes: 21
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 00:57 (one year ago) link

Twee image, perhaps. Doing something pretty while I/she can. :)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 00:58 (one year ago) link

Also: seems kinda low.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 01:01 (one year ago) link

after The State I Am In, this is my favorite track on Tigermilk

Dan S, Friday, 14 December 2018 01:03 (one year ago) link

My fave Tigermilk song when I first got the album in ‘99, I found it slipping in my esteem a bit when I listened to everything again. I still like it, though; came in near the bottom of my ballot.

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Friday, 14 December 2018 01:09 (one year ago) link

None of my top 10 have appeared yet but several from my 15-30. I had We Rule the School at 13, my highest yet. Such a gorgeous song.

erasingclouds, Friday, 14 December 2018 01:10 (one year ago) link

In contrast, I can only assume the relatively low placements of “Dress Up In You” and “Another Sunny Day” are reflective of overall feelings about The Life Pursuit here. I had both in my Top 5.

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Friday, 14 December 2018 01:11 (one year ago) link

Xp re: Piazza, New York Catcher, I like this quote from Stuart in Rolling Stone from 2016

“I think he’s a cool enough guy that he’d shrug it off, and be happy that there are a few daft hipster kids who know his name,” he says. “It’s funny, I’ve never met him, but my wife follows the Mets as well, and her folks are down in Florida, so one year we drove down to Spring Training in Port St. Lucie. We watched Piazza hit, and she went up with a baseball to get it autographed, and he didn’t even look down and realize she was a woman. He just said ‘Not now kid, I gotta run.'”

Dan S, Friday, 14 December 2018 01:17 (one year ago) link

Piazza was known as a pretty big metal fan so I doubt he's into Belle and Sebastian.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 14 December 2018 01:44 (one year ago) link

I remember reading part of an article where Stuart’s dad was asked to review TBSTAS and the only track he found exceptuonal was Seymour Stein.. At least that’s how I remember reading it.

I personally think the album is my favorite because the tracks let me zone out and there are lots of great, sunny ones at that. Also none of the songs have the annoying earworm quality that you would get with some of the more upbeat songs in the B&S catalog. Anecdotally, a list of my top 50 favorite songs in the world would probably average out more on the lower end of a tempo spectrum.

ヽ(_ _ヽ)彡 ᴵ'ᵐ ᵒᵏᵃʸ_(・_ .)/ (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 14 December 2018 01:46 (one year ago) link

37. (TIE)

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String Bean Jean
From Dog On Wheels (1997)
Youtube audio track
Points: 283
Votes: 17
#1 Votes: 0

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The Rollercoaster Ride
From The Boy With the Arab Strap (1998)
Youtube audio track
Points: 283
Votes: 18
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 01:56 (one year ago) link

Speaking of low tempos and TBWTAS...

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 01:57 (one year ago) link

Another consideration: while we don’t know where the members of Belle and Sebastian will have been every day of the time periods being considered here, we do know when they would have been playing shows. According to the band’s official site, the group had no live shows scheduled during the relevant timeframe in August of 2002.

What fangraphs doesn't know is that SM married a gal from San Francisco, and spent a lot of time here during the courtship.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 14 December 2018 02:00 (one year ago) link

*there ;-)

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 14 December 2018 02:01 (one year ago) link

I didn't know that!

I think The Rollercoaster Ride should have placed much higher

Dan S, Friday, 14 December 2018 02:01 (one year ago) link

Both of those were ranked very high for me.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 14 December 2018 02:02 (one year ago) link

The Rollercoaster Ride was the fourth of my top 10 to appear so far (with Jonathan David, Piazza, New York Catcher, and Seymour Stein). I expect most of the rest will also show up

Dan S, Friday, 14 December 2018 02:12 (one year ago) link

Rollercoaster way too low, an extreme grower for me during the voting process, starting off the ballot and moving into my top ten

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 December 2018 02:14 (one year ago) link

both on my ballot as well. i think rollercoaster was my second highest vote from TBWTAS, which i didn't expect when i started ranking them

Karl Malone, Friday, 14 December 2018 02:23 (one year ago) link

I love the blown-out quality of the recording too

Dan S, Friday, 14 December 2018 02:29 (one year ago) link

Yes, Rollercoaster was prominent on my ballot as well.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 14 December 2018 02:45 (one year ago) link

xp by blown-out I mean that in parts it's so closely microphoned it's blurry. What I think David Keenan would refer to as “dilated sound”

Dan S, Friday, 14 December 2018 02:46 (one year ago) link

*of it is*

Dan S, Friday, 14 December 2018 02:50 (one year ago) link

amazing to think there are 30+ tracks more loved, yet to come

Dan S, Friday, 14 December 2018 02:55 (one year ago) link

String Bean Jean is so great -- so fun and yet so much sadness

doctor johnson (askance johnson), Friday, 14 December 2018 03:02 (one year ago) link

“string bean jean” was my first favorite b&s song. just jumped right out at me on barman

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 14 December 2018 03:06 (one year ago) link

I remember thinking "The Rollercoaster Ride" was a "Waterloo Sunset" for its day. Haven't revisited either enough to see if it holds up.

john. a resident of evanston. (john. a resident of chicago.), Friday, 14 December 2018 03:06 (one year ago) link

I didn't expect "String Bean Jean" to rank even this high. A pleasant surprise.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 03:17 (one year ago) link

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36. You're Just a Baby
From Tigermilk (1996)
Youtube audio track
Points: 285
Votes: 17
#1 Votes: 1

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 03:18 (one year ago) link

that's my #1, and the rest of you are fucking LIARS

Karl Malone, Friday, 14 December 2018 03:21 (one year ago) link

another one of my favorites from Tigermilk

Dan S, Friday, 14 December 2018 03:21 (one year ago) link

Arguably a bit much seventies knitwear in this section.

No fucking such thing.

lingereffect (Kent Burt), Friday, 14 December 2018 03:31 (one year ago) link

nag, if it isn't too much trouble, could you post a recap when you reach a good benchmark?

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 December 2018 03:33 (one year ago) link

So kiss me on the cheek before you go to sleep

Dan S, Friday, 14 December 2018 03:36 (one year ago) link

XP: I shall do so, yes. Actually, I'll post one more track and let things rest for a bit.

Shocking confession: I voted for way more Tigermilk tracks than IYFS tracks but have always found the fourth track on each side of the former ("YJAB" and "IDLA") to be a bit tiresome. They seem more accomplished at things other than repetitive guitar chugga-chugga and the part of my brain that likes "Jonathan David" craves a few more chords, or something. :)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 03:41 (one year ago) link

B&S sound cool as shit on You're Just A Baby. the recording and the reverb are absolutely perfect.

Karl Malone, Friday, 14 December 2018 03:43 (one year ago) link

yes

Dan S, Friday, 14 December 2018 03:49 (one year ago) link

plus the "and what's the score?" part during the chorus is weirdly perfect, just one of those things you start singing along with without thinking about it. and then the switch-up on the last chorus, when he's like "so what's theeeeeee ...reason for all the looks we gave?" is so good! and those repeated Befores at end, resolving in a very Beatles-esque pleasing way? you all are insane, that is a top 3 song

Karl Malone, Friday, 14 December 2018 03:53 (one year ago) link

and the organ-led instrumental rave-up in the middle is really good, too, one of my favorites in a catalog stuffed with them. unlike a lot of the others, it feels really fun and a bit intoxicated and sloppy. it's wonderful that they developed into such good musicians and cleaned up their recordings, but something was lost in that same gradual transformation, too.

Karl Malone, Friday, 14 December 2018 03:57 (one year ago) link

that's such a great description

Dan S, Friday, 14 December 2018 04:01 (one year ago) link

I shall have to re-listen!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 04:04 (one year ago) link

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35. Funny Little Frog
From The Life Pursuit (2006)
Original promo video
Points: 287
Votes: 14, including 4 votes for the God Help the Girl rendition.
#1 Votes: 1

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 04:06 (one year ago) link

argh, so you're going on while some of us are going to bed?!

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 December 2018 04:11 (one year ago) link

That's it for now. :)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 04:13 (one year ago) link

so kiss me before you go to sleep!

Dan S, Friday, 14 December 2018 04:14 (one year ago) link

on the cheek, lol

Dan S, Friday, 14 December 2018 04:15 (one year ago) link

i will see you liars tomorrow

Karl Malone, Friday, 14 December 2018 04:16 (one year ago) link

The other thread suggested that this may even be their most hated song. What's all that about then?

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 04:18 (one year ago) link

really did not expect that to do as well as it did, it's ok but not really a favourite from life pursuit or anything

rollercoaster ride managed to make my ballot at the last minute, i love how it drifts along - it feels so much like something yo la tengo could have done

string bean jean is also excellent, the synth bit that starts off sounding like a marimba is great and i love that surf guitar line

ufo, Friday, 14 December 2018 04:35 (one year ago) link

There are at least, like, 8 better songs on TLP tbh. But it's good!

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 14 December 2018 04:43 (one year ago) link

Summary (I hope this formatting works)


Rank Title Pts Votes #1s

60 I Don't Love Anyone 156 11 0
59 If You Find Yourself Caught in Love 157 9 0
58 I Want the World to Stop 158 11 0
57 The Blues Are Still Blue 168 13 0
56 I Fought in a War 177 13 0
55 Put the Book Back on the Shelf/Songs for Children 178 12 1
54 I Know Where the Summer Goes 179 13 0
53 Beautiful 181 10 0
52 Ease Your Feet in the Sea 187 11 1
51 Is It Wicked Not to Care 206 12 0
50 Dress Up in You 209 10 0
49 I Didn't See It Coming 216 13 1
48 Jonathan David 221 12 0
47 Photo Jenny 228 16 0
46 There's Too Much Love 238 15 0
44= It Could Have Been a Brilliant Career 244 15 0
44= I'm Waking Up to Us 244 18 0
43 Another Sunny Day 248 12 0
42 My Wandering Days Are Over 257 16 0
41 Seymour Stein 258 14 0
40 Piazza, New York Catcher 271 18 0
39 We Rule the School 276 21 0
37= String Bean Jean 283 17 0
37= The Rollercoaster Ride 283 18 0
36 You're Just a Baby 285 17 1
35 Funny Little Frog 287 14 1

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 04:50 (one year ago) link

*phew*

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 04:50 (one year ago) link

nice!

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 14 December 2018 04:52 (one year ago) link

a great rollout Nag! Nag! Nag!

Dan S, Friday, 14 December 2018 04:53 (one year ago) link

The singer on God Help The Girl Funny Little Frog has a powerful voice. I had to vote for this.

ヽ(_ _ヽ)彡 ᴵ'ᵐ ᵒᵏᵃʸ_(・_ .)/ (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 14 December 2018 04:57 (one year ago) link

the points distribution of the roll-out so far has been very very smooth

Karl Malone, Friday, 14 December 2018 05:13 (one year ago) link

there aren't any big jumps between any of them so far, like boiling a funny little frog

Karl Malone, Friday, 14 December 2018 05:13 (one year ago) link

Sorry I was too busy to comment much. "You're Just A Baby" -- I am basically permanently yessed out so the opening riff from "yours is no disgrace" here just always gets me, the way it seems to announce it is going to be a certain kind of song but then isn't -- or is it? I can't in good conscience say this is B&S prog but the weird harmony on "before" isn't really like anything else in their catalog and they just SIT on it...

And

"the switch-up on the last chorus, when he's like "so what's theeeeeee ...reason for all the looks we gave?"

YES.

"We Rule The School" was my #6 and not, I thought, an idiosyncratic choice; very surprised to see it this low. It's not the song I'd play for someone to get them excited about Belle and Sebastian, but it might be the one I'd play to explain what Belle and Sebastian is about, or were about then.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 14 December 2018 05:16 (one year ago) link

wait... hold up.. how is String Bean Jean so low? That song is canon - I'd have expected it to place at least top 10 if not higher.

frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 14 December 2018 07:36 (one year ago) link

I mean the lyrics alone. it's the ne plus ultra B&S song

frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 14 December 2018 07:39 (one year ago) link

this is one of the nothingy songs on Arab Strap I was talking about

FITE YOU!

Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Friday, 14 December 2018 08:13 (one year ago) link

“string bean jean” was my first favorite b&s song.

Same here. When I started to get my ballot together I assumed it would be my number one, but listening back I didn't like it quite as much (still right up there though).

the salacious inaudible (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 14 December 2018 08:28 (one year ago) link

and we always have a laugh and then we all get in the bath to save on the 'leccy bill / me and Jo and Phil

frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 14 December 2018 09:16 (one year ago) link

I gave votes to Piazza, We Rule, You're just a baby, and clearly, the one I regret not seeing higher, Seymour Stein. Big regrets for There's Too Much Love, I missed it.

Nabozo, Friday, 14 December 2018 09:29 (one year ago) link

I used to be a bit embarrassed by We Rule the School when I felt more defensive about the band. But relistening to Tigermilk it had that feeling of encapsulating everything, and with the benefit of distance it made its way on to my ballot ahead of some other tracks from the album I thought I loved more.

Alba, Friday, 14 December 2018 10:20 (one year ago) link

'You know the world is made for men, not us'
'You could either be successful or be us'
'They called us winsome but we're just hopeless'

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 10:57 (one year ago) link

I might drop a few more of these now, just to spread the timezone love around...

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 10:58 (one year ago) link

"Belle & Sebastian, on the radio, playing songs for children. And we're really sorry fur all the trouble we've caused".

Alba, Friday, 14 December 2018 11:00 (one year ago) link

http://i68.tinypic.com/23r2z9s.jpg
34. Le Pastie de la Bourgeoisie
From 3.. 6.. 9 Seconds of Light (1997)
Perky performance at Lowlands
Points: 292
Votes: 20
#1 Votes: 1

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 11:04 (one year ago) link

XP: Ah, yes!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 11:04 (one year ago) link

I've always liked Le Pastie but maybe it could have a more blistering production on it. Or maybe I just need to turn up the volume.

Alba, Friday, 14 December 2018 11:08 (one year ago) link

Good timing! I’ve had this in my head all morning.

hot dog go to bathroom (cajunsunday), Friday, 14 December 2018 11:10 (one year ago) link

I was the first-place vote here, and the imaginary version that plays inside my head does indeed tend to be more blistering than the familiar recording.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 11:20 (one year ago) link

Love 'Le Pastie' and also kind of wish they'd done more songs like it.

Karl Malone otm re: 'You're Just a Baby' - I had it at #15 on my ballot but it should have been higher.

Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 14 December 2018 11:47 (one year ago) link

http://i64.tinypic.com/nch9jr.jpg

33. A Century of Fakers
From 3.. 6.. 9 Seconds of Light (1997)
Original promo video
Points: 293
Votes: 15
#1 Votes: 1

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 11:55 (one year ago) link

The only B&S song I've ever sung on stage.

Alba, Friday, 14 December 2018 12:01 (one year ago) link

They nearly made it onto Top of the Pops with "Le Pastie", I forget why they got dropped..

Mark G, Friday, 14 December 2018 12:08 (one year ago) link

http://i68.tinypic.com/nfi87d.jpg

32. Step Into My Office, Baby
From Dear Catastrophe Waitress (2003)
Original promo video
Points: 297
Votes: 16
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 12:42 (one year ago) link

banger

devvvine, Friday, 14 December 2018 12:46 (one year ago) link

My output is in decline
I was burned out after Thatcher
My banner I laid down with a sigh
Now I doubt if I'll ever catch her

devvvine, Friday, 14 December 2018 12:47 (one year ago) link

one of the uncharacteristically extroverted-sounding songs from DCW, really great arrangement

ufo, Friday, 14 December 2018 12:49 (one year ago) link

It's odd, the band's been doing period-perfect pastiche from the start but to my ears has almost always come across well doing it, even at its most overt. This song, for example, is a real collision of familiar elements, but somehow it all works for me.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 December 2018 12:49 (one year ago) link

Only six songs from my ballot have showed up so far, so now I'm going through the list again trying to figure out which ones didn't place at all.
(probably the ones from Storytelling)

Nice to see Funny Little Frog garnered a #1 vote. I didn't rate that song at all really until I heard the God Help The Girl version. After that I came around to the original.

enochroot, Friday, 14 December 2018 12:57 (one year ago) link

It doesn't feel right getting all shirty on the B&S thread, particularly about whimsy, but I'd happily never hear this again - it puts my teeth on edge.

Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Friday, 14 December 2018 12:58 (one year ago) link

your boss is not your girlfriend

devvvine, Friday, 14 December 2018 13:01 (one year ago) link

Ah, I was the only one who put "A Century of Fakers" at #1. I was thinking that song would be arriving any minute, seeing so many other early EP tracks showing up in the results.

erasingclouds, Friday, 14 December 2018 13:01 (one year ago) link

I do actually like this song despite/because of its insane levels of goofiness; didn't vote for it, mind

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 14 December 2018 13:03 (one year ago) link

we need to talk

J. Sam, Friday, 14 December 2018 13:03 (one year ago) link

Also it's greatly improved if you imagine it really is just about the hazards of wage labor

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 14 December 2018 13:06 (one year ago) link

I'm with you, Chinaski -- I know it's supposed to be in character and all, but it's just kinda ham-fisted (and musically, a bit too disjointed for my liking -- like a bunch of set-pieces)

enochroot, Friday, 14 December 2018 13:08 (one year ago) link

I'm not in favour of any goofiness but the I was burned out after Thatcher section is strong.

Alba, Friday, 14 December 2018 13:14 (one year ago) link

http://i67.tinypic.com/35jc77o.jpg

31. Wrapped Up in Books
From Dear Catastrophe Waitress (2003)
Original promo video
Points: 300
Votes: 21
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 13:19 (one year ago) link

all the arrangements on DCW are so good, i love when the jangley motorik groove suddenly transitions into that brief piano & reeds section

ufo, Friday, 14 December 2018 13:24 (one year ago) link

Wonderful album, high on my ballot

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 December 2018 13:26 (one year ago) link

Nice work on the image for that one.

enochroot, Friday, 14 December 2018 13:29 (one year ago) link

I'm very much a 'prefer the early stuff' fan but I love this song, great rhythm guitar and some of their best vocal harmonies. Also I noticed from going through some of their videos that both this and the one for Lazy Line Painter Jane feature someone using a book as a pillow, I'm convinced that has some sort of significance.

Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 14 December 2018 13:30 (one year ago) link

30 down and 30 to go. Three more now, I think. Can figure out how to make things a bit more orderly for the end of the countdown after I've had some sleep...

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 13:47 (one year ago) link

http://i66.tinypic.com/vgj60l.jpg

30. Women's Realm
From Fold Your Hands Child, You Walk Like a Peasant (2000)
At KCRW, 2003
Points: 305
Votes: 21
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 13:48 (one year ago) link

Some things I've learned quite a bit about in recent days because of B&S:
- Mike Piazza
- Eucalypts in California
- Women's Realm magazine

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 13:52 (one year ago) link

Step into my Office Baby: specifically a pastiche of “Good Vibrations”? That’s the way I heard it once I got past the lyrics. One of those rare pop songs where the lyric stood out on first listen.

eva logorrhea (bendy), Friday, 14 December 2018 13:56 (one year ago) link

"pastie" and "century of fakers" are way too low

"women's realm" about right though, i love that song

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 14 December 2018 13:57 (one year ago) link

"you're just a baby" should've been top ten imo

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 14 December 2018 13:58 (one year ago) link

string arrangement on this one is ridic

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 14 December 2018 14:03 (one year ago) link

I hope 'To Be Myself Completely' pops up, although it's unlikely.

frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 14 December 2018 14:05 (one year ago) link

One thing this exercise has clarified for me is that FYHCYWLAP is...bitchin'

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 14:11 (one year ago) link

http://i64.tinypic.com/ff8nsm.jpg
29. Don't Leave the Light on Baby
From Fold Your Hands Child, You Walk Like a Peasant (2000)
Live in Rio, 2001
Points: 310
Votes: 17
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 14:12 (one year ago) link

hell yeah

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 14 December 2018 14:16 (one year ago) link

couldn't find room for it on my ballot but a great song buried in that first side

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 14 December 2018 14:16 (one year ago) link

Love that moment when the backing vocals finally come in on this track. This is the only FYHCYWLAP that made my ballot.

enochroot, Friday, 14 December 2018 14:25 (one year ago) link

I've never been one to emphasize the importance of good lyrics, but B&S is a band that really does benefit from having good ones.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 December 2018 14:29 (one year ago) link

There's Too Much Love is approximately 20 times better than the coasting Women's Realm you lunatics. Glad to see Don't Leave the Light on Baby make it though.

Alba, Friday, 14 December 2018 14:29 (one year ago) link

5th in the row I haven't voted for.

Nabozo, Friday, 14 December 2018 14:35 (one year ago) link

I bloody love Women's Realm. It'd be good to put some kind of concordance together, to track the different themes and locations in their songs. This has the classic dance/sing like you're on your own, and, I've always linked the 'Indian part of the town' to the taxi driver in TBWTAS.

Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Friday, 14 December 2018 14:37 (one year ago) link

"There's Too Much Love" is the only Fold Your Hands track I squeezed onto my ballot, and only at the last minute. Which now seems insane. Clearly my biggest mistake was failing to propose a ballot size of 100 slots at the outset.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 14:38 (one year ago) link

B&S coast so beautifully.

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 14 December 2018 14:41 (one year ago) link

Clearly my biggest mistake was failing to propose a ballot size of 100 slots at the outset.

― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, December 14, 2018 7:38 AM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i agree that you were wrong

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 14 December 2018 14:42 (one year ago) link

"women's realm" is just kinda "dirty dream no. 3" so i get thinking it's coasting but also i need thirty more of those songs please

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 14 December 2018 14:42 (one year ago) link

The arrangements on Don't Leave the Light on Baby are pure Moon Safari. In a good way, obviously.

Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Friday, 14 December 2018 14:47 (one year ago) link

"Woman's Realm" reminds me more of "The Boy With the Arab Strap" (the song) with the electric piano and handclaps.

enochroot, Friday, 14 December 2018 14:49 (one year ago) link

There also aren't enough songs where Stuart trades verses with Isobel (cf Women's Realm).

Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Friday, 14 December 2018 14:51 (one year ago) link

The clustering by era in this stretch is quite marked...

http://i64.tinypic.com/23ijwbk.jpg

28. The Model
From Fold Your Hands Child, You Walk Like a Peasant (2000)
Live at Glastonbury, 2004
Points: 322
Votes: 19
#1 Votes: 1

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 14:56 (one year ago) link

wrapped up in books is way too low

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 December 2018 14:57 (one year ago) link

le pastie is the other one i voted for from this stretch

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 December 2018 15:01 (one year ago) link

oh good this is my actual favorite song from fold your hands

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 14 December 2018 15:02 (one year ago) link

yup

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 14 December 2018 15:03 (one year ago) link

is this the horniest B&S song

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 14 December 2018 15:04 (one year ago) link

I may have slightly overrated The Model, but it's so charming. It must be the last from its album.

Nabozo, Friday, 14 December 2018 15:05 (one year ago) link

nah, on certain days i think it's the ultimate b&s song, though there are many other songs vying for that title

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 14 December 2018 15:06 (one year ago) link

this is my favourite from fold your hands and i really should have voted for it. the constantly building and shifting string arrangement is fantastic. also stevie singing one line in every verse

ufo, Friday, 14 December 2018 15:07 (one year ago) link

the harpsichord definitely is twee as fuck.

enochroot, Friday, 14 December 2018 15:09 (one year ago) link

The Model is amazing. That rush of words reminds me of that story about how Dylan thought nuclear war was coming so he just took all the stanzas he'd jotted down intended as starting points for various songs and just threw them all into A Hard Rain's Gonna Fall before it was too late.

Alba, Friday, 14 December 2018 15:10 (one year ago) link

also stevie singing one line in every verse

yeah this is such a cool move

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 14 December 2018 15:11 (one year ago) link

to catch up with some stuff i missed:

- i like the life pursuit and i like this rollout a lot but imo "funny little frog" can't hang imo, not this high
- didn't vote for "piazza" but i think its charms are extremely obvious so i'm not mad
- i love how many people had "the rollercoaster ride" ascending their ballots during the voting period. me too! its effect is so subtle but when it hits you, it's devastating

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 14 December 2018 15:11 (one year ago) link

i said that about "funny little frog" but i know when i hear it in the playlist i'm gonna think "ok this song is a jam"

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 14 December 2018 15:14 (one year ago) link

"funny little frog" is ok but i'm shocked that it's probably the highest placing song from the life pursuit, unless "mornington crescent" is still to come which seems unlikely?

ufo, Friday, 14 December 2018 15:17 (one year ago) link

i don't know if i'd ever describe b&s lyrics as "good," there's always, always, always some dodgy or obvious rhyme even/especially in the classic stuff, but i think what makes it all work for me is the sensibility, that the band have literary aspirations but are never polished about it and are willing to follow an image around a corner but are also just gonna rhyme "on the rag" with "sleeping bag." it's part of their whole marriage of the mysterious and the incredibly ordinary, which, given murdoch's perspective, he would find incredibly ordinary things deeply mysterious

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 14 December 2018 15:19 (one year ago) link

almost certainly not :( xp

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 14 December 2018 15:19 (one year ago) link

afaict not a single song from Sinister has placed yet!

doctor johnson (askance johnson), Friday, 14 December 2018 15:20 (one year ago) link

lol right

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 14 December 2018 15:21 (one year ago) link

"mayfly" is already too high btw

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 14 December 2018 15:21 (one year ago) link

i'm not too surprised that every sinister track is doing this well when it won the albums poll so overwhelmingly - i really thought it might be closer though

ufo, Friday, 14 December 2018 15:22 (one year ago) link

the rollercoaster ride
of all the trouble kept her inside

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 14 December 2018 15:24 (one year ago) link

;_;

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 14 December 2018 15:24 (one year ago) link

Perhaps not 'every' Sinister track. :)

I'll shall roll out some more in the morning. (Friday afternoon for most of you, it seems.)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 15:28 (one year ago) link

i love the gradual introduction of all of the instruments in "you're just a baby," and how it feels like the song doesn't *really* start until stevie jackson starts strumming. what an awesome guitar player

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 14 December 2018 15:29 (one year ago) link

Thank you! Xpost

Alba, Friday, 14 December 2018 15:29 (one year ago) link

hadn't realized until just now that they are currently a seven-piece(!!)

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 14 December 2018 15:31 (one year ago) link

the boy done wrong again placing above String Bean Jean would have me very upset

frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 14 December 2018 15:40 (one year ago) link

hadn't realized until just now that they are currently a seven-piece(!!)

― resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, December 14, 2018 8:31 AM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

when i watched the sinister doc i was completely baffled at their approach to recording the first two records, live from the floor including with fucking 6-7 people in your band? certainly the only way to do it if you have no money but also total madness

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 14 December 2018 15:42 (one year ago) link

including vocals*

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 14 December 2018 15:43 (one year ago) link

wow...

frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 14 December 2018 15:46 (one year ago) link

sounds surprisingly clear and good if that's the case

frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 14 December 2018 15:46 (one year ago) link

I bet you it wasn't.

It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christ (Tom D.), Friday, 14 December 2018 15:49 (one year ago) link

thanks for the insight tom

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 14 December 2018 15:50 (one year ago) link

I know somebody who used to play with them, I should ask him.

It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christ (Tom D.), Friday, 14 December 2018 15:53 (one year ago) link

I don't know what he played on though tbf.

It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christ (Tom D.), Friday, 14 December 2018 15:53 (one year ago) link

wow no wonder those albums sound the way they do then, except it is a bit of a wonder they don't sound much worse?

also funny that they released a live album of sinister because they wanted a better sounding recording of it, but it absolutely sounds worse

ufo, Friday, 14 December 2018 15:54 (one year ago) link

I'm surprised by "Funny Little Frog" non-enthusiasm -- those opening lines!

geoffreyess, Friday, 14 December 2018 16:23 (one year ago) link

it was a late cut for me, the lyrics are great, but there were a lot of songs i liked a lot more

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 December 2018 16:30 (one year ago) link

xpost Plus, the video!

Mark G, Friday, 14 December 2018 16:38 (one year ago) link

The arrangements on Don't Leave the Light on Baby are pure Moon Safari. In a good way, obviously

I'd never thought of this, but can see exactly what you mean

the salacious inaudible (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 14 December 2018 16:43 (one year ago) link

also funny that they released a live album of sinister because they wanted a better sounding recording of it, but it absolutely sounds worse

right, i was so excited when they released this but there's not a track on there i wouldn't rather hear the album take of

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 14 December 2018 16:53 (one year ago) link

very happy don't leave the light on baby placed, incredible song

devvvine, Friday, 14 December 2018 19:02 (one year ago) link

one more great thing about You're Just a Baby, a top 3 B&S song:

the little early measure drum hiccup/fill at "Yeah, you will be crying in the morning". the drummer guy was apparently a beginner when they were recording these, but he already had a great feel. it's the kind of weird stumble where you might glance over to see if he flubbed it or something, but then he just whoooshes back into the beat with such grace that it convinces you it was all on purpose. kind of hard to explain but it reminds me of some special ringo moments.

Karl Malone, Friday, 14 December 2018 19:12 (one year ago) link

dang, Funny Little Frog is hitting me just right this afternoon! i regret not voting for it!

Karl Malone, Friday, 14 December 2018 19:21 (one year ago) link

Karl Malone, did you lock yourself up with that song at some point ? The way you describe it so minutely and passionately makes me want to hear you on other songs :)

Nabozo, Friday, 14 December 2018 19:47 (one year ago) link

^ this. We need a thread with you dissecting all your favourite tracks, Karl.

Your dad's Carlos Boozer and you keep him alive (fionnland), Friday, 14 December 2018 19:50 (one year ago) link

drummers know drummers!

i didn't vote because i ran out of time/these songs hit me too hard and i can't afford to be a mess right now. however i would like to share a small anecdote for posterity.

i saw B&S at Pitchfork 2013 and it was raining during their set. i was there by myself. i was near an area where there were pieces of wood to dance on rather than soggy grass, so i took advantage of it and danced myself silly. there was a guy next to me who looked sort of like a goth Ray Davies and after a few songs, he looked at me and commented "You musta used up all your moves on that one!" And I just looked at him and said "Not even close" and continued dancing. memorable for how FUN it was to dance to B&S and also because the songs didn't send me into a tear-spiral, i just had a great time and was all by myself (which is how i have enjoyed B&S 99% of the time that i enjoyed their music) memory keywords: solitude, dancing, rain, lols <3

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 14 December 2018 19:54 (one year ago) link

i felt like the soggy star of my own little B&S song

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 14 December 2018 19:59 (one year ago) link

that's very nice of you all, but i have sort of been down that road before. turns out i don't have that many good thoughts about music. the well is shallow. or narrow but deep, or wide but shallow. whatever the worst of those is.
but when i (think i) do, i usually share them!

Karl Malone, Friday, 14 December 2018 20:08 (one year ago) link

I'm a little later than I thought I might be, but I shall drop a few more, I think...

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 20:12 (one year ago) link

http://i63.tinypic.com/2whktac.jpg

27. I Could Be Dreaming
From Tigermilk (1996)
The unabbreviated 1996 BBC recording, thanks to Jonathan Hellion Mumble
Points: 324
Votes: 16
#1 Votes: 1

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 20:15 (one year ago) link

Seems like there's already an unusually diverse scatter of #1 songs, probably because B&S is so suited for solitary listening. You develop strange awkward little attractions without friends looking on, just like the characters in the songs.

eva logorrhea (bendy), Friday, 14 December 2018 20:15 (one year ago) link

Also: much too low.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 20:16 (one year ago) link

Nice story Lechera. B&S could be the patron saints of dancing by yourself in the rain.

Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Friday, 14 December 2018 20:17 (one year ago) link

For the record, my #1 vote.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 14 December 2018 20:31 (one year ago) link

wow way too low

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 14 December 2018 20:34 (one year ago) link

The images are ace, by the way.

To be frank for a minute, I've had a right cunt of a few weeks at work and this poll has been a magnificent distraction. Thank you.

Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Friday, 14 December 2018 20:40 (one year ago) link

love this song soooo much

rip van wanko, Friday, 14 December 2018 20:43 (one year ago) link

It rocks but maybe it suffers from the comparison to later songs, it's sort of a blueprint.

Nabozo, Friday, 14 December 2018 20:46 (one year ago) link

http://i64.tinypic.com/ouz67n.jpg

26. A Summer Wasting
From The Boy With the Arab Strap (1998)
In San Francisco, 2017
Points: 327
Votes: 15
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 20:56 (one year ago) link

i'm getting increasingly worried that some of my more low-profile favorites just aren't going to place at all.
(i mean, I'd love to see Marx and Engels in the top 20, but that seems like a stretch)

Also, nothing off of Girls in Peacetime has showed up yet.

enochroot, Friday, 14 December 2018 20:58 (one year ago) link

I feared this one wasn't going to make it. In which case I would have wept. The votes were relatively infrequent (still a low vote count for a track at this level) but its fans tended to be fairly generous, points-wise.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 21:09 (one year ago) link

It was in my top ten. It meant a lot to me in the autumn/winter of 1998 because I had spent the previous summer wasting.

doctor johnson (askance johnson), Friday, 14 December 2018 21:12 (one year ago) link

my prediction is that 'mayfly' and 'boy done wrong' are the only sinister tracks not to place

devvvine, Friday, 14 December 2018 21:24 (one year ago) link

Summer Wasting sets my imagination rolling to bright summer scenes. My #2 vote

ヽ(_ _ヽ)彡 ᴵ'ᵐ ᵒᵏᵃʸ_(・_.)/ (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 14 December 2018 21:32 (one year ago) link

Yeah summer wasting! My highest ranking song from the album.

Karl Malone, Friday, 14 December 2018 21:40 (one year ago) link

http://i64.tinypic.com/25hg4s0.jpg

25. Electronic Renaissance
From Tigermilk (1996)
Black Session, 2006
Points: 335
Votes: 23
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 21:44 (one year ago) link

Does anyone know if Funny Little Frog was first written for God Help The Girl? Can't quite work out what it's really about but with the subject being a man it sort of makes sense that it's about God?

everything, Friday, 14 December 2018 22:07 (one year ago) link

Electronic Ren, which I love, is the only song from those first two albums that sounds like an actual demo, imo.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 December 2018 22:14 (one year ago) link

I loved that song so much back in the day. Someone (possibly on Sinister) said Murdoch made it to prove to Beans that he could write that there electronic music just as good as any young whippersnapper, but that story seems spurious in the extreme to me. For a band who wore their influences on their sleeve ER's existence and it's placement on the first album seemed an important acknowledgement of a whole swathe of vital predecessors, and had a profound effect on me and I'm sure a whole bunch of other teenagers who only latched onto B&S in the first place because we prayed nightly for guidance and direction

Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Friday, 14 December 2018 22:18 (one year ago) link

iirc Stuart had the original played on the radio, and loved the muffled sound of his tape recording so much that he put it on the LP instead of the original

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 14 December 2018 22:21 (one year ago) link

The lo-fidelity is important too, every one of my formative musical memories had tape hiss, mostly from being taped from Peel or whatever. Muffled vocals to reflect confusion and uncertainty
total xp

Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Friday, 14 December 2018 22:23 (one year ago) link

13 point increment! Counts as a major uptick here. :)

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24. Nobody's Empire
From Girls in Peacetime Want to Dance (2015)
Original promo video
Points: 348
Votes: 18
#1 Votes: 1

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 22:40 (one year ago) link

great song

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 December 2018 23:01 (one year ago) link

My number one, really snuck up over the past few years in my estimation. The narrative arc helps make this zing, but it’s Murdoch’s best vocal which makes it so great.

Dan Worsley, Friday, 14 December 2018 23:05 (one year ago) link

To be honest, every time I hear the opening instrumental passage it strikes me as a bit stiff and Coldplay-ish, but by the final verse it's the most ridiculously affecting thing in the whole world ever.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 23:05 (one year ago) link

never have been sure exactly what this song is about, but with every listen it seems more like a work of genius. wish I had put it higher on my ballot

Dan S, Friday, 14 December 2018 23:06 (one year ago) link

Apparently at least partially inspired by Murdoch's emergence from chronic illness.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 23:14 (one year ago) link

ok that makes sense, at least one verse almost sounds like an out of body experience during surgery

Dan S, Friday, 14 December 2018 23:20 (one year ago) link

Someone on the nomination thread said it was about being saved iirc.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 14 December 2018 23:21 (one year ago) link

Oh I meant to say when "I Could Be Dreaming" came up, lyrical (sorta)quotation from this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIgv4Tvx3V0

Always a minor joy noticing shit like this in the pre Genius etc days

Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Friday, 14 December 2018 23:41 (one year ago) link

“nobody’s empire” is the best belle and sebastian song

guess i can stop hoping “play for today” or “the cat with the cream” will place

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 14 December 2018 23:47 (one year ago) link

http://i68.tinypic.com/lzj20.jpg

23. The Loneliness of a Middle Distance Runner
From Jonathan David (2001)
TV performance, Apocalypse Tube, 1999
Points: 365
Votes: 20
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 14 December 2018 23:54 (one year ago) link

toooo loooow, my no. 2

devvvine, Saturday, 15 December 2018 00:11 (one year ago) link

'everything is possible' is my take-away from this song

the Jonathan David EP is one of my favorites, this song included

Dan S, Saturday, 15 December 2018 00:15 (one year ago) link

Toooo low indeed. My #3.

enochroot, Saturday, 15 December 2018 00:16 (one year ago) link

been obsessed with that live clip for years, such a beautiful performance

devvvine, Saturday, 15 December 2018 00:19 (one year ago) link

Excellent poll so far!

Wow Beautiful is crazy low.
Woah Piazza.. i thought that was a lock for maybe even Number 1 just goes to show ya.
How had i forgotten Ease Your Feet Into The Sea was so great.. baffling.
Great to see a recent track (Nobody's Empire) being so lauded. I'm guessing that's the last we'll see from the last couple of albums.

Wish i could've voted just didn't have time.

piscesx, Saturday, 15 December 2018 00:21 (one year ago) link

Can't understand why this was relegated to a B-side. It's miles better than the flip side.

enochroot, Saturday, 15 December 2018 00:23 (one year ago) link

yes, Beautiful and Piazza both I thought would be much higher! not really disappointed though, so many great ones have placed and are yet to come

xp Middle Distance Runner link doesn't work for me, blocked by youtube for some reason

Dan S, Saturday, 15 December 2018 00:27 (one year ago) link

The content is blocked in the US.

enochroot, Saturday, 15 December 2018 00:30 (one year ago) link

are you meaning the vinyl, enochroot? if you're referring to the A-side being jonathan david, I disagree

Dan S, Saturday, 15 December 2018 00:32 (one year ago) link

Comparable levels of greatness by my reckoning, with "Carriage Clock" not all that far behind.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 15 December 2018 00:38 (one year ago) link

it's the same vid from the ballot thread: https://tubeunblock.com/watch?v=w_nlGHj8lKY

devvvine, Saturday, 15 December 2018 00:38 (one year ago) link

Yes, was referring to Jonathan David... to each his own, I suppose, that song is to busy for me.

enochroot, Saturday, 15 December 2018 00:40 (one year ago) link

I get it about JD

xp thanks devvvine!

will be interesting to see what shows up from here on out

Dan S, Saturday, 15 December 2018 00:43 (one year ago) link

http://i64.tinypic.com/k9ay5h.jpg

22. Expectations
From Tigermilk (1996)
Live at Barrowlands (again)
Points: 380
Votes: 24
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 15 December 2018 00:46 (one year ago) link

the lyrics to this are so amazing

Dan S, Saturday, 15 December 2018 00:52 (one year ago) link

this is a great song but i kinda find it inseparable from the also great 'she's losing it'

devvvine, Saturday, 15 December 2018 00:52 (one year ago) link

The Model was my #1. It's one of those songs I have to play like 3 times in a row every time I hear it because of the head-spinning density of the lyrics and the gorgeousness of the arrangement.

The Model is amazing. That rush of words reminds me of that story about how Dylan thought nuclear war was coming so he just took all the stanzas he'd jotted down intended as starting points for various songs and just threw them all into A Hard Rain's Gonna Fall before it was too late.

This is a great comparison. Lyrically it's kind of a one-off for Murdoch, though The State I Am In has a similar oblique surreal logic to it.

Also, Elec Renaissance way too low :(

J. Sam, Saturday, 15 December 2018 00:59 (one year ago) link

"Middle Distance Runner" is one of those songs that feels familiar even though I only heard it for the first time last week. Really beautiful song that I probably put too low on my ballot

Can't believe we haven't seen a Sinister song yet! I guess the album results hinted at this, but there's only one song on there that I think is average; the rest very good to great. Wonder if every song will place

Vinnie, Saturday, 15 December 2018 01:02 (one year ago) link

Glad to see "Nobody's Empire", I had that at #5 I think. Voted for "Play for Today" too, but I doubt that'd be higher.

erasingclouds, Saturday, 15 December 2018 01:02 (one year ago) link

Hoping Play For Today makes it somehow. It was in my top 10.

J. Sam, Saturday, 15 December 2018 01:05 (one year ago) link

A slide from this morning's motivational band talk. pic.twitter.com/NHYtWMfzPF

— stuart murdoch (@nee_massey) December 14, 2018

J. Sam, Saturday, 15 December 2018 01:07 (one year ago) link

lol

Dan S, Saturday, 15 December 2018 01:08 (one year ago) link

First track with TWO first place votes!

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21. Your Cover's Blown
From Books (2004)
Promo video for the Miaoux Miaoux remix
Points: 398
Votes: 20, including 1 vote for the Miaoux Miaoux remix.
#1 Votes: 2

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 15 December 2018 01:23 (one year ago) link

legendary

J. Sam, Saturday, 15 December 2018 01:28 (one year ago) link

So that just leaves the top 20. I'll give it a rest for now.

I'm interested in opinions on the best time to roll out the remainder (including the ideal time of day for Euro and American folk) Weekends on ILM are usually too quiet, no?

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 15 December 2018 01:51 (one year ago) link

For stats fans:


Rank Title Pts Votes #1s

60 I Don't Love Anyone 156 11 0
59 If You Find Yourself Caught in Love 157 9 0
58 I Want the World to Stop 158 11 0
57 The Blues Are Still Blue 168 13 0
56 I Fought in a War 177 13 0
55 Put the Book Back on the Shelf/Songs for Children 178 12 1
54 I Know Where the Summer Goes 179 13 0
53 Beautiful 181 10 0
52 Ease Your Feet in the Sea 187 11 1
51 Is It Wicked Not to Care 206 12 0
50 Dress Up in You 209 10 0
49 I Didn't See It Coming 216 13 1
48 Jonathan David 221 12 0
47 Photo Jenny 228 16 0
46 There's Too Much Love 238 15 0
44= It Could Have Been a Brilliant Career 244 15 0
44= I'm Waking Up to Us 244 18 0
43 Another Sunny Day 248 12 0
42 My Wandering Days Are Over 257 16 0
41 Seymour Stein 258 14 0
40 Piazza, New York Catcher 271 18 0
39 We Rule the School 276 21 0
37= String Bean Jean 283 17 0
37= The Rollercoaster Ride 283 18 0
36 You're Just a Baby 285 17 1
35 Funny Little Frog 287 14 1
34 Le Pastie de la Bourgeoisie 292 20 1
33 A Century of Fakers 293 15 1
32 Step Into My Office, Baby 297 16 0
31 Wrapped Up in Books 300 21 0
30 Women's Realm 305 21 0
29 Don't Leave the Light on Baby 310 17 0
28 The Model 322 19 1
27 I Could Be Dreaming 324 16 1
26 A Summer Wasting 327 15 0
25 Electronic Renaissance 335 23 0
24 Nobody's Empire 348 18 1
23 The Loneliness of a Middle Distance Runner 365 20 0
22 Expectations 380 24 0
21 Your Cover's Blown 398 20 2

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 15 December 2018 01:53 (one year ago) link

I vote for Monday, working hours EST, since that's when I'm most online.

BTW, thanks for running this poll, Nag... this is the most fun I've had on ILM since I joined.

enochroot, Saturday, 15 December 2018 02:01 (one year ago) link

Weekend rollouts are best earlier in the reveals, and then only for about 5 entries a day.

Infidels, Like Dylan In The Eighties (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 15 December 2018 02:04 (one year ago) link

I'm on Pacific Time, but realize most of the interest may be in other time zones. Thanks Nag

Dan S, Saturday, 15 December 2018 02:07 (one year ago) link

Every single one of my polls have run into Saturday and both New Order and Steely Dan went into a Sunday. I'm on the West Coast and usually started around 10 AM on the weekends. People want to see who wins so Weekends for polls doesn't really hurt them. Most people don't want to wait on results.

Great job you are doing Nag!

Bee OK, Saturday, 15 December 2018 02:14 (one year ago) link

wow there's some surprises in that last batch - thought Your Cover's Blown was probably a lock for top 10. Nobody's Empire is decent but there's this awkward disconnect between the opening riff and the verse for me that doesn't quite work, so I'm really shocked it showed up so high and above things like Electronic Renaissance and I Could Be Dreaming which are some of their very best to me. it does have a nice build but it being the consensus late career pick over I Didn't See It Coming?

ufo, Saturday, 15 December 2018 02:54 (one year ago) link

"Your Cover's Blown" is just a ludicrous accomplishment. it was in my top 5

resident hack (Simon H.), Saturday, 15 December 2018 03:04 (one year ago) link

Nothing yet has been on half the ballots I think!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 15 December 2018 03:28 (one year ago) link

I believe 12 or 13 of my 30 votes have placed. not bad!

resident hack (Simon H.), Saturday, 15 December 2018 03:42 (one year ago) link

HOLY SHIT

I was gonna do that thing where you guess the top 3, but figured that would be annoying so I didn't. But I would have had Expectations at 2 or 3!! To my ears it's one of their crowning achievements, and I know I've talked with others who say the same. This is blowing my mind.

Electronic Rennaissance is in my personal top 3 but I know I'm weird about that one.

rip van wanko, Saturday, 15 December 2018 04:41 (one year ago) link

I think "ER" was my #3. Any song vaguely approximating New Order's "Procession" deserves such a ranking. And "Expectations" was somewhere in my top ten.

I've been surprised generally by the relative lack of popularity of Tigermilk, as an album, and of its constituent tracks, in relation to IYFS. Half a lifetime ago they felt like twin statements of approximately equal standing. Feels like a gulf has opened up between them while I was inattentive. (Or I could have just misjudged the situation in first place, my own preference being for the earlier record. LOL)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 15 December 2018 06:29 (one year ago) link

I wonder if it has something to do with the timing of its wider release.

My first exposure to B&S was IYFS, then TBWTAS, then the 3 EPs, and then Tigermilk only after all of those

Dan S, Saturday, 15 December 2018 06:52 (one year ago) link

also seven or so out of its ten tracks have placed, more than any other album so far, and I expect at least one more to show up

I guess I see your point, though, that all but maybe one will end up lower on the list than any track from IYFS

Dan S, Saturday, 15 December 2018 07:06 (one year ago) link

I didn't vote for it but surely we've got She's Losing It to come as well as The State I Am In?

On what seem like dead certs to me I also count one more from Dog on Wheels EP, eight from IYFS, one more from Lazy Line EP, two from the Modern Rock Song EP, four from TBWTAS, and two from Dear Catastrophe Waitress.

Which makes 20!

Alba, Saturday, 15 December 2018 08:24 (one year ago) link

XP: Tigermilk is certainly very popular. I guess I just thought it was a fraction more popular. :)

The albums poll asks this question more or less explicitly. Both appeared on the same number ballots (ie. nearly all of them) but IYFS's score was good 37% higher. "IYFS > Tigermilk" is a much more common sentiment than the opposite case. I just naively expected a slightly closer race.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 15 December 2018 08:28 (one year ago) link

* consults spreadsheet to gauge Alba's soothsaying skillz *

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 15 December 2018 08:32 (one year ago) link

Okay, I think I'll restrict the rollout to a trickle over the weekend and conclude with the top ten on Monday (GMT), at an hour that's convenient to most of Europe and the Americas.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 15 December 2018 08:59 (one year ago) link

I was hoping for Middle Distance Runner to crack the top 15, one of Murdoch's best vocal performances, his high notes are killing me.
Comparatively, I don't really get Expectations: good strumming song but still a strumming song.

Nabozo, Saturday, 15 December 2018 10:28 (one year ago) link

Okay, just a handful today. Starting with...

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20. This Is Just a Modern Rock Song
From This Is Just a Modern Rock Song (1998)
Original promo video
Points: 400
Votes: 23
#1 Votes: 1

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 15 December 2018 11:43 (one year ago) link

Middle Distance Runner and Modern Rock Song I had pegged for the top 5, quite surprised, are we going to have a top 10 full of Sinister? Other ones I expected there are Slow Graffiti and The State I Am In, will be a travesty if neither if those in the top 10.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 15 December 2018 11:55 (one year ago) link

Fear that Middle Distance Runner suffers from being hidden away on a b-side, if it had been on IYFS I reckon it could be #1

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 15 December 2018 11:58 (one year ago) link

Yeah, it would fit perfectly on IYFS. It's the song I've listened to the most since participating in this poll. I predict Slow Graffiti comes next.

Nabozo, Saturday, 15 December 2018 12:18 (one year ago) link

My no.1. All time.

Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Saturday, 15 December 2018 12:28 (one year ago) link

http://i68.tinypic.com/1sz2vk.jpg

19. She's Losing It
From Tigermilk (1996)
Live at Barrowlands
Points: 412
Votes: 25
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 15 December 2018 12:49 (one year ago) link

inch for inch and pound for pound
who needs boys when there's lisa around?

J. Sam, Saturday, 15 December 2018 12:52 (one year ago) link

some of my favourites just turned up. I love love love Your Cover's Blown and it's a shame B&S didn't do more funky rooms-within-rooms epics

frame casual (dog latin), Saturday, 15 December 2018 12:58 (one year ago) link

she's losing it is perfect the whole way through, but i especially love the horns in the last chorus

ufo, Saturday, 15 December 2018 13:04 (one year ago) link

and you can dance to it!

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 December 2018 13:07 (one year ago) link

I like the juxtaposition of this concise jaunty thing at #19 with the sprawling slackness at #20.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 15 December 2018 13:10 (one year ago) link

"this is just a modern rock song" is such an outlier in their discography, i like it a lot but i'm glad they cut it from if you're feeling sinister

ufo, Saturday, 15 December 2018 13:12 (one year ago) link

So tigers in bathtubs look like fish.

Nabozo, Saturday, 15 December 2018 13:18 (one year ago) link

Since it's Christmas period I've been reading my C&H compilations so anytime I see the Tigermilk cover I think it's Hobbes.

Nabozo, Saturday, 15 December 2018 13:19 (one year ago) link

I love contrast between the bombast of "Modern Rock Song" and the self-deprecating lyrics.
"I'm not as sad as Dostoevsky / I'm not as clever as Mark Twain"

enochroot, Saturday, 15 December 2018 13:30 (one year ago) link

It's also interesting to see the video links with these old songs, they had a very consistent visual aesthetic in the 90's. Plus, they all came out before youtube, so I had no idea these songs even had videos.

enochroot, Saturday, 15 December 2018 13:34 (one year ago) link

Yes! I'm not sure I ever saw 'Rock Song' or 'Fakers' before last week. (Unless they were on Fans Only and I just have a terrible memory--kinda likely.)

The one I was just about to post, however, represented my very first exposure to B&S.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 15 December 2018 13:45 (one year ago) link

http://i65.tinypic.com/20jo9k1.jpg

18. Dog on Wheels
From Dog on Wheels (1997)
Original promo video
Points: 413
Votes: 20
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 15 December 2018 13:46 (one year ago) link

this is one that's fine but never been a favourite so i wasn't really expecting it'd be this high, especially over some of the stuff that placed recently

ufo, Saturday, 15 December 2018 13:49 (one year ago) link

Yeah, I had it in my top 20 but it slipped out on relisten, not bad but not really special enough for me to vote for, think it might need to catch me in the right mood

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 15 December 2018 13:53 (one year ago) link

YCB sat in my number one spot for so long. The groove in the beginning is so fucking amazing, and then there’s that paranoid “shoulda stayed home section,” where we start to recognize it as a song by the same band that did Arab Strap, and then that gorgeous final section where we’re firmly back in classic territory, but with a groove fit for the Chic organization.

It eventually fell to my number 2, but your cover’s blown is still mind-blowing

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Saturday, 15 December 2018 14:13 (one year ago) link

I voted for "Dog". Hard to be objective though. It's all caught with seeing the video and thinking "gee, the reality may just live up to the online hype--this is odder and less straight-up twee than the much of the stuff the indiepop list gets excited about!"

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 15 December 2018 14:23 (one year ago) link

"than much of the stuff", rather.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 15 December 2018 14:24 (one year ago) link

Yeah, it would fit perfectly on IYFS. It's the song I've listened to the most since participating in this poll.

Same here re: Middle Distance Runner

Dog in Wheels was almost my #1.

Gavin, Leeds, Saturday, 15 December 2018 14:40 (one year ago) link

Big uptick in points here and a track I suspect quite a few been anticipating. It'll have to be the last for today because I've spent far too long looking in vain for live footage with good audio and it's now 2AM. :)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 15 December 2018 15:02 (one year ago) link

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17. If She Wants Me
From Dear Catastrophe Waitress (2003)
Youtube audio track
Points: 442
Votes: 21
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 15 December 2018 15:02 (one year ago) link

i think this just missed my ballot but i'm delighted that this made it so high, i wasn't sure it was going to.

if i could just do one near perfect thing i'd be happy

ufo, Saturday, 15 December 2018 15:14 (one year ago) link

as usual from a dear catastrophe waitress track the arrangements are incredible, especially those backing vocals in the last section

ufo, Saturday, 15 December 2018 15:18 (one year ago) link

If she wants me was #18 on my ballot so...good work everyone

What a beautiful song. It might be my single favorite Murdoch vocal and the arrangement is perfect, with the guitar and organ and mellotron interplay.

“On second thoughts I'd rather hang around and be there with my best friend if she wants me”

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Saturday, 15 December 2018 15:18 (one year ago) link

yeah absolutely one of his best vocals, i love when his voice reaches up at the end of the verse

ufo, Saturday, 15 December 2018 15:21 (one year ago) link

Such a lovely chorus.

triggercut, Saturday, 15 December 2018 15:26 (one year ago) link

I just realized after watching that live version that She's Losing It and Boy with the Arab Strap both have drums that swing in the same way -- Ringo comparisons upthread otm!!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 15 December 2018 15:34 (one year ago) link

'If She Wants Me" seems so effortless; I love DCW but a lot of it sounds like a band pretending to be a band that sounds like that, while "If She Wants Me" just sounds like a band that's always sounded like that

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 15 December 2018 15:36 (one year ago) link

BTW someone complained earlier about the reliance on "and now here's a trumpet solo that follows the vocal line" and I can't deny that "Expectations" and "She's Losing It" both do this and yet I am utterly happy with both these trumpet solos. In "Expectations," maybe part of what makes it work is that the most breathtaking part of the vocal ("on top of the world again") isn't mirrored by the trumpet, that's left alone.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 15 December 2018 15:38 (one year ago) link

god let just one sinister track place ffs

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Saturday, 15 December 2018 16:35 (one year ago) link

Maybe the top ten will just be all the tracks on Sinister.

doctor johnson (askance johnson), Saturday, 15 December 2018 16:37 (one year ago) link

"If She Wants Me" is perfect, just an immaculate example of what I want from this band. I put it at no. 5, one spot below "I Could Be Dreaming" but somehow I am more disappointed with this placement than I was with ICBD so prolly should've switched them around. I certainly would've campaigned more for ISWM but I had some notion that it was already universally beloved. Oh well.

Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Saturday, 15 December 2018 17:27 (one year ago) link

"If She Wants Me" should probably have been my #1 tbh, a literally perfect song and v important to me

resident hack (Simon H.), Saturday, 15 December 2018 17:34 (one year ago) link

Well, 21 votes implies that it is pretty beloved (almost half the ballots), but wasn't too high on most people's lists.
ISWM and Your Cover's Blown were the only post-2000 tracks in my top 10.

enochroot, Saturday, 15 December 2018 17:39 (one year ago) link

Forgot this one had the line: "You are too young to put all of your hopes in just one envelope".

Interesting that they didn't highlight this song at all (no video, no single) when DCW came out. Maybe they thought it was a little too on-brand at a time when they were trying to do the Trevor Horn led reinvention.

enochroot, Saturday, 15 December 2018 17:53 (one year ago) link

I went through this morning and learned how to play most of the songs on Tigermilk. As expected, all of the chords are super simple, which really emphasizes how perfect the arrangements and vocal melodies are.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 15 December 2018 17:56 (one year ago) link

oh nice! was there a specific place you grabbed the tabs from, or did you just work it out yourself?

Karl Malone, Saturday, 15 December 2018 18:01 (one year ago) link

Good to see a lot 9f love for If She Wants Me. definitely a highlight of the album

frame casual (dog latin), Saturday, 15 December 2018 19:05 (one year ago) link

xpost Just at Ultimate Guitar, most (all?) are up there. Not the fancier ("fancier") flourishes, just the chords. I think The State I'm In was tuned down a half-step? Most were pretty standard, though, give or take a capo. But it was fun to hum along the tunes to these simple chords and hear how they all work out together.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 15 December 2018 19:09 (one year ago) link

B&S don't use weird chords, but they do use a lot of quick changes and they're fond of using all the chords in the scale.

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Saturday, 15 December 2018 19:53 (one year ago) link

If She Wants Me was pretty high on my ballo. I had completely forgotten about its existence until this poll.

kornrulez6969, Saturday, 15 December 2018 20:08 (one year ago) link

Lots of single and ep material I need to check out here. A lot of tracks I don't really know are placing quite high.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 15 December 2018 20:17 (one year ago) link

B&S don't use weird chords

Rollercoaster Ride has a D with an F# bass, a G6? (G5 with open e) and then a Bm with an F# bass as well. Nothing crazy but it's the little things.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 15 December 2018 20:22 (one year ago) link

right but most of those (G6 excepted) are just standard triads in different inversions

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Saturday, 15 December 2018 20:34 (one year ago) link

Yeah, we're not talking Nick Drake territory.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 15 December 2018 21:44 (one year ago) link

i totally forgot about how much i loved a summer wasting

Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Saturday, 15 December 2018 21:51 (one year ago) link

murdoch's twitter is unexpectedly delightful

Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Saturday, 15 December 2018 21:51 (one year ago) link

I had "If She Wants Me' Top 5, just irresistible.

campreverb, Saturday, 15 December 2018 22:08 (one year ago) link

"I'll Be Your Pilot" just came on the radio and I think I should've voted for it. So lovely.

geoffreyess, Saturday, 15 December 2018 22:10 (one year ago) link

One post while I'm near the computer. Incidentally, can anyone see what the first photo depicts? (from 'TIJAMRS' sleeve--I've between staring at it for years.)

15. (TIE)

http://i63.tinypic.com/20frvnr.jpg

Slow Graffiti
From This Is Just a Modern Rock Song (1998)
At Bowlie Weekender, 1999
Points: 486
Votes: 23
#1 Votes: 2

http://i67.tinypic.com/2rnxvra.jpg

Dirty Dream Number Two
From The Boy With the Arab Strap (1998)
Lance Bangs' Athens video
Points: 486
Votes: 26
#1 Votes: 2

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 15 December 2018 22:34 (one year ago) link

love both of these songs

Dan S, Saturday, 15 December 2018 22:56 (one year ago) link

Dirty dream placing in the right spot, what a great song.

bros before HOOS (voodoo chili), Saturday, 15 December 2018 23:06 (one year ago) link

slow graffiti was top 3 for me, something about murdoch's delivery of 'i stay in to defrost the fridge' destroys me

devvvine, Saturday, 15 December 2018 23:26 (one year ago) link

I had these songs at #14 and #18, so this is about right I suppose. "Slow Graffiti" we first heard on the Acid House OST (and lyrically it was obviously written for the film), it was a Big Deal when it was announced for TIGGERJAMMYS cos clearly this was the greatest song ever and the one to bring B&S to the masses, didn't quite work out like that but I look back on my teenage idealism fondly so don't give me no grief. The first time I ever saw them live was Bowlie Weekender, positioned myself front row early on and in the buildup I thought my heart was gunna burst. Then when they walked out and the first piano chords and the first lines of the first song, "keep for daaaays upon"... My heart did burst and I've honestly not been the same since.

Donno why I only had this at #18, mainly this rollout has been reiterating to me that I am clearly an idiot.

Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Saturday, 15 December 2018 23:38 (one year ago) link

lol have some of the same regrets

I like the kind of B&S song template Slow Graffiti represents, one that begins with a slow acapella or with minimal instrumentation and only really gets going after a verse or two (the defining ones of these maybe being The State I Am In and The Stars of Track and Field)

Dan S, Saturday, 15 December 2018 23:50 (one year ago) link

I completely forgot about the Acid House connection! (Somewhat obviously.)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 15 December 2018 23:57 (one year ago) link

I was going to put a tentative predicted top 5 which would have been Slow Graffiti / TSIAI / TIJAMRS / LOTMDR / LLPJ in some order or other, but wow was I off-base there

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 15 December 2018 23:58 (one year ago) link

Slow Graf was my #2.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 16 December 2018 00:31 (one year ago) link

I like the kind of B&S song template Slow Graffiti represents, one that begins with a slow acapella or with minimal instrumentation and only really gets going after a verse or two (the defining ones of these maybe being The State I Am In and The Stars of Track and Field)

― Dan S, Saturday, December 15, 2018 3:50 PM (forty-one minutes ago)

Or hey why not do it 3 albums in a row: "It Could Have Been A Brilliant Career" lol

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 16 December 2018 00:33 (one year ago) link

I think "I Fought In A War" even fits into this continuity, it mibbe doesn't start pure acapella but otherwise I think it fits. So this is a genuine deliberate move! What's next? "Step Into My Office Baby" ok nevermind

Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Sunday, 16 December 2018 00:37 (one year ago) link

it's only been through reviewing for this poll that I'm now realizing my affinity for these kinds of songs, I think a lot of them were all on my ballot

Dan S, Sunday, 16 December 2018 00:41 (one year ago) link

If She Wants Me was pretty high on my ballo. I had completely forgotten about its existence until this poll.

Exactly the same for me. It's just not an easy song for me to remember by the title

Vinnie, Sunday, 16 December 2018 00:52 (one year ago) link

Slow Graffiti is the first song in the rollout where I think I really missed the boat. I did my ballot from memory, and the song title didn't ring a bell at all so I left it off, but wow what a song.

enochroot, Sunday, 16 December 2018 01:58 (one year ago) link

I think that moment came for me with Your Cover's Blown. never heard it before, but it is amazing

Dan S, Sunday, 16 December 2018 02:23 (one year ago) link

Slow Graffiti was my #1. From Stuart's lead vocal, to Stevie's backups, to the rhythm, and the strings. It's the complete package. Until now, I had no clue it was written for a movie. It sounds like it could have been written about any of the characters/situations in Stuart's universe at the time.

naus, Sunday, 16 December 2018 02:38 (one year ago) link

It's great. It was high on my ballot too. A lot of people who voted for it placed quite high, such that it bounced around a lot. Before the very last ballots came in it was actually in the top ten--I remember changing the number I'd prematurely written in the image!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 16 December 2018 03:03 (one year ago) link

Here's a final 'Saturday' post while America, at least, is still experiencing Saturday. Leaving three for Sunday...

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14. Stay Loose
From Dear Catastrophe Waitress (2003)
Live at Benicassim, 2004
Points: 489
Votes: 26
#1 Votes: 4

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 16 December 2018 03:09 (one year ago) link

YES. I also ranked this at #14. One of their best genre exercises.

bunny slopes, Sunday, 16 December 2018 03:50 (one year ago) link

The twin guitarwork is fucking unreal

resident hack (Simon H.), Sunday, 16 December 2018 04:08 (one year ago) link

From the quiet acapella part to the end is all fantastic, reminds me of The Who in a weird way, and the verses are perfect Squeeze pastiche.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 16 December 2018 04:13 (one year ago) link

HOLY SHIT

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 16 December 2018 06:31 (one year ago) link

i had given up on "stay loose" placing, the best song in the WORLD

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 16 December 2018 06:31 (one year ago) link

"dirty dream" was my no. 1 but that's beside the point (it's better than every sinister song)

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 16 December 2018 06:32 (one year ago) link

(i'm just kidding that's probably not true but i still think it's the objectively perfect b&s song)

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 16 December 2018 06:36 (one year ago) link

4 #1s! Three other ilxors are pretty cool

Vinnie, Sunday, 16 December 2018 06:58 (one year ago) link

I threw a bucket load of points at "Stay Loose", for some reason this fucking dress up shit means more to me than "Your Cover's Blown" or I dunno most of their latter career.

In other news I woke up at ungodly hour and listened to The Life Pursuit. I had "Another Sunny Day" and "Dress Up In You" on my ballot when it was down to 31, then drunkenly decided to ditch them both in some sort of misguided attempt at PURITY and added... "Big John Shaft" in the last spot? That can't be right...
'Another Sunny Day" is phenomenal and should've made the cut. "Dress Up In You" I was enjoying, it resolved itself perfectly and oh wait we're still going? It fair outstayed it's welcome. And nothing else on this album really stood out. "Funny Little Frog" was better than I remembered, still, naw.

Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Sunday, 16 December 2018 07:06 (one year ago) link

That statue:

http://www.kelvingrovepark.com/heritage-tigress.html

koogs, Sunday, 16 December 2018 07:21 (one year ago) link

Aaaaaaaah! Thanks!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 16 December 2018 07:31 (one year ago) link

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12-A (Another tie) The Fox in the Snow
From If You're Feeling Sinister (1996)
Live at Barrowlands, with bonus coughing fit.
Points: 509
Votes: 26
#1 Votes: 1

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 16 December 2018 08:17 (one year ago) link

Missing definite article innit. Whoops.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 16 December 2018 08:22 (one year ago) link

Dirty Dream Number Two deserved an even higher placement, it's indeed perfect.
Never noticed Stay Loose, I guess I don't understand "genre exercises" (though I did discover your cover's blown miaou miaou with pleasure).
The Fox in the Snow... so finally we have a track from IYFS, I'm not surprised it's this one. But it's also the arch-fragile B&S song. Some hurting memories with this one, and for my ex even more probably. For a long while I could not listen to it, now I find it beautiful again.

Nabozo, Sunday, 16 December 2018 09:27 (one year ago) link

Sinister! The appearance of If She Wants Me has meant at least one of my 20 dead certs isn't actually a dead cert after all. I can't believe that there's a third song on Sinister in the same bracket of unpopularity as Mayfly and The Boy Done Wrong Again so I reckon I must have miscounted Arab Strap instead: no Simple Things is my revised guess. I guess I only had it at #30 so I can't complain.

Have no idea what Sinister track will be highest. Could be one of at least three. Am guessing that The State I Am In and TBWTAS will be the top 2 not very confident of that!

Alba, Sunday, 16 December 2018 09:27 (one year ago) link

Nothing about DD#2 surprises me, which is I guess why I don't love it. Stay Loose, on the other hand, well, I guess I just have my prejudices when it comes to which strands of genre pastiche we'll accept and I love it to bits.

Alba, Sunday, 16 December 2018 09:29 (one year ago) link

The "Boy On The Bike" verse of Fox hits pretty hard because I started racing bikes and then became ill and needed treatment and then once "healthy" tried returning to racing and realized that my treatment sucked much more life out of me than I initially realized. Painted the song in an entirely new light for me.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 16 December 2018 09:37 (one year ago) link

What a run of songs! The longer this goes on the more it becomes apparent that my ballot was essentially arbitrary.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Sunday, 16 December 2018 10:02 (one year ago) link

I remember being surprised by "DD#2" the first time I listened to TWATTYBUS: the sudden quasi-orchestral immensity of the first few bars alone likely induced an audible 'whoa!'

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 16 December 2018 10:07 (one year ago) link

And there's my #2. "Fox in the Snow" affects me more than anything else in their catalog, perfect pairing of music and lyrics

Vinnie, Sunday, 16 December 2018 10:12 (one year ago) link

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12-B (Tie)
Me and the Major

From If You're Feeling Sinister (1996)
Live in Rio, 2001
Points: 509
Votes: 24
#1 Votes: 2

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 16 December 2018 13:00 (one year ago) link

I'll post #11 in a few hours and then get back to a decent pace to finish things on Monday.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 16 December 2018 13:02 (one year ago) link

Me and the Major ended up being my top ranked Sinister track, which I wouldn't have guessed prior to relistening. I love the way it ends.

Alba, Sunday, 16 December 2018 13:32 (one year ago) link

Both #12s too high for me, Clive

Your dad's Carlos Boozer and you keep him alive (fionnland), Sunday, 16 December 2018 13:40 (one year ago) link

Isn't the next one #10 ? Otherwise I ask that you start a new thread with the correct numbers, and we'll pretend to discover the ranking again.
Can't hide my pleasure to see IYFS "haters" complain at IYFS high placement :D (My top-5 was IYFS tracks so I'm a main culprit)
Me and the Major has this intoxicating fast-paced free-rolling piano speed that I love on the album.
There's very few left now. I predict Sleep the Clock Around is next.

Nabozo, Sunday, 16 December 2018 14:05 (one year ago) link

Oh wait, actually you went 14, 12, 12.

Nabozo, Sunday, 16 December 2018 14:14 (one year ago) link

both perfect songs, the way 'me and the major' spins out in to the 'yeah the snow is falling' refrain is transcendent.

devvvine, Sunday, 16 December 2018 14:18 (one year ago) link

XP: LOL. Yeah, the other ties are similar.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 16 December 2018 14:25 (one year ago) link

Slow Graffiti is fantastic and I love that the emotion in the lines from “It doesn’t matter...” to “...it’s worse to wake up with her falling round the room” isn’t lessened by having “I stay in to defrost the fridge” in the middle of it.

the salacious inaudible (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 16 December 2018 15:45 (one year ago) link

I still remember the first time I heard The Fox in the Snow, being startled by the third line, "Cause the word out on the street is you are starving"

Dan S, Sunday, 16 December 2018 16:18 (one year ago) link

God I love the stuttery harmonica at the beginning of "Me and the Major."

I always kind of mentally mix it in my mind with the Housemartins' "Me and the Farmer."

That said, it's one of 4 Sinister songs I didn't vote for and so is "Fox." But I think in part I felt embarrassed to vote for all 10 Sinister songs, I can't deny I like this better than some songs I voted for (like "Stay Loose," sorry fans)

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 16 December 2018 16:31 (one year ago) link

I love the lyrics, melody and vocals on Slow Grafitti. I guess in the end it just missed my ballot because I'm not mad about the chugga-chugga rhythm that doesn't go anywhere.

Alba, Sunday, 16 December 2018 16:33 (one year ago) link

Graffiti! Could have done with checking over a lot of my posts on this thread.

Alba, Sunday, 16 December 2018 16:34 (one year ago) link

“Me and the Major” was my #1! I just love that darn harmonica so much.

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 16 December 2018 17:10 (one year ago) link

alba, if i ever make you a mix, i'm going to make a special note to NOT include CCR's Keep On Chooglin' :)

Karl Malone, Sunday, 16 December 2018 17:43 (one year ago) link

"Fox" my #1, and the first B&S song I ever heard

bunny slopes, Sunday, 16 December 2018 18:07 (one year ago) link

Guess what I'm now listening to, Karl? No, I don't think it's for me.

Alba, Sunday, 16 December 2018 18:37 (one year ago) link

i regret to tell you that you are contractually obligated to keep on chooglin' for the full 7:40

Karl Malone, Sunday, 16 December 2018 18:40 (one year ago) link

"i'm a cuckoo" 4 no. 1 btw

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 16 December 2018 18:44 (one year ago) link

Stuart Murdoch had better appear at some point. xpost

Alba, Sunday, 16 December 2018 18:44 (one year ago) link

“Me and the Major” was my #1! I just love that darn harmonica so much.

― Mr. Snrub, Sunday, December 16, 2018 12:10 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh yeah one of the best uses of the harmonica in the history of recorded sound

bros before HOOS (voodoo chili), Sunday, 16 December 2018 19:01 (one year ago) link

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11. Judy and the Dream of Horses
From If You're Feeling Sinister (1996)
Live at Barrowlands
Points: 564
Votes: 26
#1 Votes: 1

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 16 December 2018 20:06 (one year ago) link

Too low, best track on Sinister.

Dan Worsley, Sunday, 16 December 2018 20:09 (one year ago) link

Oh this top 10 is going to be so good.

Alba, Sunday, 16 December 2018 20:12 (one year ago) link

thanks everyone for voting "desperation made a fool of me" into the top ten j/k

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 16 December 2018 20:25 (one year ago) link

yung alex kapranos there, right?

J. Sam, Sunday, 16 December 2018 20:26 (one year ago) link

Re: Desperation, I'm looking forward to seeing the full list past 60 as much as I'm looking forward to the top 10.

Alba, Sunday, 16 December 2018 20:31 (one year ago) link

I'll post #10 pre-dawn, Glasgow time (maybe 9 hours from now) and gradually increase the pace as the bulk of ILM settles into Monday.

Summary of stuff since the last summary:


Rank Title Pts Votes #1s

20 This Is Just a Modern Rock Song 400 23 1
19 She's Losing It 412 25 0
18 Dog on Wheels 413 20 0
17 If She Wants Me 442 21 0
15= Slow Graffiti 486 23 2
15= Dirty Dream Number Two 486 26 2
14 Stay Loose 489 26 4
12= The Fox in the Snow 509 26 1
12= Me and the Major 509 24 2
11 Judy and the Dream of Horses 564 26 1

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 16 December 2018 20:35 (one year ago) link

A few facts here I didn't know:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fso8D9lgJVY

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 16 December 2018 20:47 (one year ago) link

Judy my #1. Too, obviously, fucking low. This is the song that sums up the whole Belle and Sebastian project for me. And the only one that gets to joy and that shows you what it might look like not to be trapped in the state that you are in. There's a star up on your shoulder.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 16 December 2018 20:59 (one year ago) link

Really the only thing that in the entire catalog that compares with the incredible buildup of "Judy" is "Lazy Line Painter Jane" which better be really high now or I'll sulk

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 16 December 2018 21:03 (one year ago) link

Wow, seems that is Kapranos. Did the crossing guard lass go on to fame and fortune too?

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 16 December 2018 21:12 (one year ago) link

Yeah lazy line is coming.

Judy was my #4 for all the reasons eephus said.

Dream of horses—Ba da dum ba

bros before HOOS (voodoo chili), Sunday, 16 December 2018 21:13 (one year ago) link

I started assembling my ballot by putting Judy at #1 and it didn't end up much further. Agree with Guayaquil. No ten better B&S songs than it (but well, I did find 30 better songs than Lazy Line Painter Jane so...).

Nabozo, Sunday, 16 December 2018 21:40 (one year ago) link

8 obvious picks
-I'm A Cuckoo
-If You're Feeling Sinister
-Get Me Away From Here I'm Dying
-Seeing Other People
-The State That I Am In
-The Boy With The Arab Strap
-Lazy Line Painter Jane
-Like Dylan in the Movies

Remaining
-Stars of Track and Field
-Sleep The Clock Around
-We Are The Sleepyheads
-Dear Catastrophe Waitress
-(I wish) Big John haft

ヽ(_ _ヽ)彡 ᴵ'ᵐ ᵒᵏᵃʸ_(・_.)/ (FlopsyDuck), Sunday, 16 December 2018 22:55 (one year ago) link

nix the last three and there's yr list

resident hack (Simon H.), Sunday, 16 December 2018 23:10 (one year ago) link

Me and the Major was my #1. It's perfect. Everything one could want in a Belle and Sebastian song.

Want to feel old? In 3 years Sinister turns 25. Same amount of time the Major went back, remembering Roxy Music.

kornrulez6969, Sunday, 16 December 2018 23:11 (one year ago) link

definitely agree on the first 8

Dan S, Sunday, 16 December 2018 23:49 (one year ago) link

I think Stars of Track and Field will also show up

Dan S, Sunday, 16 December 2018 23:50 (one year ago) link

I didn’t vote but if I had my #1 would have been Sleep Around the Clock. I saw them do it once mayve 15 years ago and it was magical. They didn’t play it the other times I’ve seen them.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Sunday, 16 December 2018 23:55 (one year ago) link

Argh the clock around obvs

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Sunday, 16 December 2018 23:56 (one year ago) link

it makes sense that those would be the 10, as Simon H said

Dan S, Sunday, 16 December 2018 23:59 (one year ago) link

I would be very surprised if it was not the exact first ten Flopsy mentioned, but haven't a clue about the order

Vinnie, Monday, 17 December 2018 00:08 (one year ago) link

Though I do hope you're all wrong about Big John Shaft

enochroot, Monday, 17 December 2018 00:10 (one year ago) link

i'm gonna be wild and say that maybe I'm A Cuckoo is out, and Dear Catastrophe Waitress makes it in. i'm not a cuckoo fan :-/

Karl Malone, Monday, 17 December 2018 00:13 (one year ago) link

I personally wish the 10th spot would go to Belle and Sebastian (the song)

Dan S, Monday, 17 December 2018 00:18 (one year ago) link

that song is all-time great

Dan S, Monday, 17 December 2018 00:19 (one year ago) link

actually, ok i like cuckoo. and i can see how it would make the top 10, it's really catchy and sort of sounds like a mix of Jessica by the Allman Brothers and Big Star

Karl Malone, Monday, 17 December 2018 00:22 (one year ago) link

Judy is only #11?!!
Judy where did you go wrong?!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 17 December 2018 00:23 (one year ago) link

Cuckoo is catchy, sure, but one of these (remaining) things is not like the others....

enochroot, Monday, 17 December 2018 00:25 (one year ago) link

I thought maybe I would kick Cuckoo out of the top 10 but then I listened to it again

Dan S, Monday, 17 December 2018 00:40 (one year ago) link

Perhaps I'm easily amused but the declaration, in a Scottish accent, that B&S "have no time for dumbfucks and fucknuggets" has had me chuckling like an idiot for several hours now.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 17 December 2018 00:41 (one year ago) link

Here are some fun facts which may or may not help with predictions:

The forty-nine first-place votes (3 ballots were unranked) were distributed across 27 different tracks in total. "Stay Loose" has received the greatest number (4) of first-place votes so far, but nothing in the top ten exceeds that number. In fact, #1 received fewer such votes and another track received none at all!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 17 December 2018 01:32 (one year ago) link

so "stay loose" is the true winner, makes sense

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 17 December 2018 01:39 (one year ago) link

LOL. Wouldn't rule out a tie, but yeah, basically.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 17 December 2018 02:54 (one year ago) link

Sounds like we can just end the poll now. Great job everyone

Vinnie, Monday, 17 December 2018 03:34 (one year ago) link

Judy at #11 is a dick slap

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 17 December 2018 04:13 (one year ago) link

Monday has arrived almost everywhere so best get this done. I'll return in an hour or two and see if anyone's about...

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10. Sleep the Clock Around
From The Boy With the Arab Strap (1998)
Live at Lowlands, 2006
Points: 583
Votes: 33
#1 Votes: 1

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 17 December 2018 06:35 (one year ago) link

I'm here! And that was my #1. So glad I pushed it into the top 10.

I remember when I first heard it in radio session form it didn't do much for me but it opened up so much in the album version.

"And the memory will shine"

Alba, Monday, 17 December 2018 06:48 (one year ago) link

YES

I love the motorik (sorry) pulse of this one. My #3 and a song that's grown a lot in my estimation over the years

Would love to stay up for the entire top 10, but it's 1:30a here in the midwest states and I'm to bed soon

bunny slopes, Monday, 17 December 2018 07:22 (one year ago) link

I'm going to start fairly slooowly, with the US in mind. Might still be at #7 or something by dawn. :)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 17 December 2018 07:29 (one year ago) link

this is pretty close to the most dead time of day for ilm with it being middle of the night in the us

'sleep the clock around' is lovely but i wasn't quite expecting it to make top 10. between it and the title track i always think of boy with the arab strap as their electric piano album, although it's not really as prominent on the rest of the album

ufo, Monday, 17 December 2018 07:44 (one year ago) link

Love it when the bagpipes kick in, need more bagpipes in pop.

Dan Worsley, Monday, 17 December 2018 07:51 (one year ago) link

Never read this before, Stuart Murdoch
on Sleep the Clock Around:

"That song was about walking over the brow of a hill, away from the two people I loved most, when I had betrayed them somewhat: after they cast me out of their confidence and out of the cafe. So it’s a song that cries out for recovery."

♥️

Alba, Monday, 17 December 2018 07:53 (one year ago) link

Aww, that's lovely. StCA is a song that's become part of me, molecular.

I don't think I've ever heard the background sound effects on this used anywhere else - the little burbles and whirrs. They sound like the dreams of mouldering instruments.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Monday, 17 December 2018 08:29 (one year ago) link

That's brilliant, yes.

Alba, Monday, 17 December 2018 08:34 (one year ago) link

Assume they're Chris Geddes's work. He hasn't been mentioned enough on this thread.

Alba, Monday, 17 December 2018 08:35 (one year ago) link

His work is so understated yet utterly crucial to their sound.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Monday, 17 December 2018 08:37 (one year ago) link

http://i64.tinypic.com/2efswat.jpg

9. The Boy With the Arab Strap
From The Boy With the Arab Strap (1998)
Groovy, meandering rendition at Glastonbury, 2015
Points: 623
Votes: 32
#1 Votes: 3

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 17 December 2018 09:39 (one year ago) link

I can barely even remember what I voted for now. Apart from perhaps "Judy" or "Fox" any of the last dozen could plausibly have been on my shortlist.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 17 December 2018 09:44 (one year ago) link

Ooh, thought that would be higher. Maybe we've all heard it to much.

Alba, Monday, 17 December 2018 09:45 (one year ago) link

That a song THIS good could be number nine in a discography is quite a thing.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Monday, 17 December 2018 09:46 (one year ago) link

So, which song is going to be their "Hey Bulldog"?

Mark G, Monday, 17 December 2018 09:47 (one year ago) link

I think this was my #2. Every time I play it I have to resist dancing like a loon to it. But then think, fuck it and go for it.

Dan Worsley, Monday, 17 December 2018 09:49 (one year ago) link

This poll is reminding me how much I love this band. Thanks Nag.

Nabozo, Monday, 17 December 2018 10:05 (one year ago) link

:)

I'll wait another hour or so for the next one. Really don't want to rush too far ahead of the western hemisphere...

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 17 December 2018 10:11 (one year ago) link

Too low. The Boy With The Arab Strap is my #1.

ヽ(_ _ヽ)彡 ᴵ'ᵐ ᵒᵏᵃʸ_(・_.)/ (FlopsyDuck), Monday, 17 December 2018 11:17 (one year ago) link

Naming an album and a song after another band is just another way B&S have managed to confuse me over the years. Others: having their own eponymous song, putting photographs of people on the covers who for a few years I (a casual fan) thought were actually in the band, having too many members, etc.

Sam Weller, Monday, 17 December 2018 12:05 (one year ago) link

Assuming that's the band Arab Strap in the image for this one?

enochroot, Monday, 17 December 2018 12:34 (one year ago) link

We used to dance often to "The Boy..." in the early 2000s.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 December 2018 12:35 (one year ago) link

XP: Yeah, photographed in approximately that same era IIRC.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 17 December 2018 12:38 (one year ago) link

http://i67.tinypic.com/vyup9l.jpg

8. The Stars of Track and Field
From If You're Feeling Sinister (1996)
Amateur choral performance by Flash Chorus of Durham, North Carolina!
Live at the Barbican (audio track)
Points: 711
Votes: 35
#1 Votes: 1

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 17 December 2018 12:42 (one year ago) link

Belle & Sebastian Coe, see. Brilliant.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 17 December 2018 12:43 (one year ago) link

:D

Enjoying the rollout NNN!

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 17 December 2018 12:44 (one year ago) link

ah the points are really starting to jump now

ufo, Monday, 17 December 2018 12:56 (one year ago) link

Make a new cult everyday

bros before HOOS (voodoo chili), Monday, 17 December 2018 13:08 (one year ago) link

Never a big fan of "Sleep the Clock Around" but love the other two tracks. Thought "Stars of Track and Field" had a good chance to be #1

Vinnie, Monday, 17 December 2018 13:27 (one year ago) link

first B&S song i ever heard, and I can still remember the feeling, something akin to "i have found my new favorite band"

rip van wanko, Monday, 17 December 2018 13:31 (one year ago) link

http://i65.tinypic.com/2dig1zc.jpg

7. If You're Feeling Sinister
From If You're Feeling Sinister (1996)
At Austin City Limits, 2014
Points: 723
Votes: 34
#1 Votes: 2

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 17 December 2018 13:35 (one year ago) link

People don't reference this song enough! Glad it did so well. The playground noise is a weird masterstroke; "the vicar or whatever" similarly.

Alba, Monday, 17 December 2018 13:41 (one year ago) link

In a discography full of prettiness, this is their prettiest song.

bros before HOOS (voodoo chili), Monday, 17 December 2018 13:42 (one year ago) link

the playground noise gives it this weird sense of 'passing through' if that makes any sense? i really like the effect it has, it's sort of breezy

ufo, Monday, 17 December 2018 13:42 (one year ago) link

http://i66.tinypic.com/vnz12e.jpg

6. I'm a Cuckoo
From Dear Catastrophe Waitress (2003)
Original promo video
Avalanches remix, audio track
Points: 728
Votes: 31, including 2 votes for the Avalanches remix.
#1 Votes: 2

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 17 December 2018 14:06 (one year ago) link

awesome

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 17 December 2018 14:06 (one year ago) link

brilliant song, voted for it, the Avalanches remix is overrated

resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 17 December 2018 14:07 (one year ago) link

Still good though.

Mark G, Monday, 17 December 2018 14:09 (one year ago) link

Great song. That moment when the brass section goes into overdrive is deliciously over-the-top and perfect.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 17 December 2018 14:10 (one year ago) link

XP: Sinister, the album, has so many songs with these long melodic phrases, and the title track is a good example:
"He'll try in vain to take away the pain of being a hopeless unbeliever" comes out in one long stream where you keep expecting the melody to resolve but it keeps pushing on just a little bit further.

(see also: "Well if I remain passive and you just want to cuddle then we should be ok and we won't get in a muddle cause we're seeing other people, at least that's what we say we are doing")

enochroot, Monday, 17 December 2018 14:10 (one year ago) link

I’m a Cuckoo was my number one, the avalanches remix is what put it over the top for me

bros before HOOS (voodoo chili), Monday, 17 December 2018 14:12 (one year ago) link

Love, love this song.

Sam Weller, Monday, 17 December 2018 14:12 (one year ago) link

The playground noise is a weird masterstroke

This is so true, and it's not exactly clear why it works so well. It doesn't really tie to the lyrics in an obvious way.

Hillary's musings reference a scene in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Perhaps it's a meditation on lost innocence and lost youth. Murdoch does a lot of repurposing of popular kids culture that serves a similar purpose, right down to the band name.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 17 December 2018 14:13 (one year ago) link

Does anyone remember the DVD singles? B&S were well served with those. I have most (if not all) of them.

Mark G, Monday, 17 December 2018 14:14 (one year ago) link

IwasthebossofyouandIlovedyouyouknowIlovedyou

It's all over now

Alba, Monday, 17 December 2018 14:18 (one year ago) link

yeah going through this ballot has really made me notice Murdoch's unique sense of phrasing (in every sense)

resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 17 December 2018 14:20 (one year ago) link

“Never read this before, Stuart Murdoch
on Sleep the Clock Around:

"That song was about walking over the brow of a hill, away from the two people I loved most, when I had betrayed them somewhat: after they cast me out of their confidence and out of the cafe. So it’s a song that cries out for recovery."

♥️

― Alba, Monday, December 17, 2018 2:53 AM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink”

I love this. Like I said last night this is my fave B&S song. Very strong top ten so far as precdicted.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 17 December 2018 14:20 (one year ago) link

Funny little I'm a Cuckoo fact I noticed the other day. In Stuart David's B&S memoir he mentions the other Stuart in the pre B&S days having a song called Sunday Gang.

Have found no other reference to it except the line in I'm a Cuckoo "Watch the Sunday gang in Harajuku".

Alba, Monday, 17 December 2018 14:22 (one year ago) link

I thought it was 'Sunday gang in Harrods'! What the chuff is Harajuku?

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Monday, 17 December 2018 14:24 (one year ago) link

A neighborhood in Tokyo.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 17 December 2018 14:25 (one year ago) link

They like Thin Lizzy. and stuff.

Mark G, Monday, 17 December 2018 14:25 (one year ago) link

And this, I guess, is the Sunday Gang he's talking about?

https://www.tvcream.co.uk/telly/tv-a-z/n-z/s-is-for/sunday-gang/

Alba, Monday, 17 December 2018 14:25 (one year ago) link

xp That's one hell of a rhyming dictionary.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Monday, 17 December 2018 14:26 (one year ago) link

Harajuku is a trendy neighbourhood. I guess SM has been there when visiting Toyko.

Alba, Monday, 17 December 2018 14:28 (one year ago) link

"I'm a Cuckoo" looked like it was steady at #4, for pretty much all of the voting period. I was impressed. Still impressed, despite it losing ground with the last day's ballots.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 17 December 2018 14:31 (one year ago) link

I mean, I don't think he's actually singing about watching an old religious TV show for kids while in Toyko. I just mean I imagine that's the reference he's playing on when he talks about people watching in Harajuku.

Alba, Monday, 17 December 2018 14:32 (one year ago) link

Then again, I wouldn't put it past him.

Mark G, Monday, 17 December 2018 14:34 (one year ago) link

Rather be in Tokyo, listening to Thin Lizzy-o *thin lizzy guitar riff*

bros before HOOS (voodoo chili), Monday, 17 December 2018 14:34 (one year ago) link

I always hoped he was referring to the Sunday Gang tv show, as an 80s RC kid i was very familiar with it. It was pretty well known iirc, there's a Lucas and Walliams mid 90s piss take (Pray Away) of it on You Tube.

piscesx, Monday, 17 December 2018 14:35 (one year ago) link

http://i63.tinypic.com/2urxpwl.jpg

5. Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying
From If You're Feeling Sinister (1996)
Live at Lowlands, 2006
Points: 762
Votes: 37
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 17 December 2018 14:45 (one year ago) link

"i'm a cuckoo" was my #1, on its own merits (avalanches remix is perfect too)

the thin lizzy meets highlife thing works so well

ufo, Monday, 17 December 2018 14:49 (one year ago) link

*whispers* “like dylan in the movies” 4 no. 1

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 17 December 2018 14:51 (one year ago) link

This is the song I always forget is on IYFS and it's always an awesome surprise

Vinnie, Monday, 17 December 2018 14:54 (one year ago) link

No #1 votes!

Alba, Monday, 17 December 2018 14:56 (one year ago) link

Classic song, one I’ve probably taken for granted.

I could kill you sure, but I could only make you cry with these words

bros before HOOS (voodoo chili), Monday, 17 December 2018 14:57 (one year ago) link

Wow, we're in the top 5.
If you're feeling sinister has jumped mightily in my esteem as a top track, when I thought I was mildly annoyed by the silly chorus lyrics. I love that long intro that makes you think it's an instrumental. Mesmerizing track. I wish I had put it even higher.
Get me away from here I'm dying I'm not very objective on. My original favorite, it's so unique and deceptively simple I sometimes doubt its perfection. Their best lyrics maybe (at least the lines I know). It is mightier than swoords. I could... only make you cry!... with theeese woords.

Nabozo, Monday, 17 December 2018 15:00 (one year ago) link

Before anyone sent any ballots I thought this a likely #1. But only because it won some poll I participated in, in maybe...1998. LOL. (Not sure where though. Did the Sinister list do polls?)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 17 December 2018 15:03 (one year ago) link

I get that—I’ve always thought of it as their “signature song,” as much as a band as prolific as this one can have one

bros before HOOS (voodoo chili), Monday, 17 December 2018 15:05 (one year ago) link

Yeah, 'signature song' captures the vibe. It might have been clearer when they'd only released 32 songs or whatever.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 17 December 2018 15:14 (one year ago) link

http://i63.tinypic.com/2hwgvn4.jpg

4. Like Dylan in the Movies
From If You're Feeling Sinister (1996)
'Fans Only' segment
Points: 812
Votes: 34
#1 Votes: 4

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 17 December 2018 15:17 (one year ago) link

this was my highest IYFS track, undeniable vibe

I realized while assembling my ballot that the early albums are associated with a time in life I don't care to think about anymore, which probably contributed to my preference for the more recent stuff (DCW and onwards) and b-sides / stray tracks

resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 17 December 2018 15:21 (one year ago) link

Heard it on the radio a while ago and yes went back to another time. I know I said I voted Me and the Major my top Sinister track but really this can't be beaten.

Alba, Monday, 17 December 2018 15:21 (one year ago) link

For this poll I had decided (very unoriginally) that this was my favorite B&S song. Can't complain even if it misses the top 3. I'm still happy with my choice, it's the most perfectly balanced in everything: bassline, vocal lines, piano, impressions of "rising" and accelerating, guitars, details, xylophone-triangle whatever it is.
You can concentrate on the one you love...
I will love you over, I will love youuuuu
If they foooollow you
Seriously, it's perfect. We said the songs with 4 #1 votes win right. Right.

Nabozo, Monday, 17 December 2018 15:23 (one year ago) link

a great song but still only middle of the pack in IYFS to me

ufo, Monday, 17 December 2018 15:25 (one year ago) link

Please don't let LLPJ beat The State I Am In.

Alba, Monday, 17 December 2018 15:27 (one year ago) link

I hope it does tbqh

resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 17 December 2018 15:28 (one year ago) link

Oh yes did anybody compliment you on the blue - red - green - yellow color thing ? I swear I only actually noticed today, great idea.
LLPJ doesn't deserve it.

Nabozo, Monday, 17 December 2018 15:30 (one year ago) link

imagine thinking that "lazy line painter jane" isn't one of the best b&s songs and would be a totally excellent no. 1

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 17 December 2018 15:30 (one year ago) link

wouldn't*

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 17 December 2018 15:31 (one year ago) link

Comes back to preference for his personal songs over the character ones, I guess. TSIAI just means everything to me and I've never really got a handle on this Jane person.

Alba, Monday, 17 December 2018 15:31 (one year ago) link

seeing other people as the highest-ranked sinister track?

bros before HOOS (voodoo chili), Monday, 17 December 2018 15:31 (one year ago) link

also I feel like it's one of the few early-ish songs that predicts just how big and bold they'd let themselves get from DCW onwards which would make it a nice capper

resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 17 December 2018 15:32 (one year ago) link

(Jane that is)

resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 17 December 2018 15:32 (one year ago) link

this is tearing us apart!

(go Jane!)

maffew12, Monday, 17 December 2018 15:32 (one year ago) link

I've never really got a handle on this Jane person

idk i think that first verse is as distinct a character study as they did in their whole career.

You're working the village shop
Putting a poster up
Dreaming of anything
Dreaming of the time
When you are free
From all the trouble you're in

bros before HOOS (voodoo chili), Monday, 17 December 2018 15:35 (one year ago) link

"Like Dylan In the Movies" was my #1, one where you can hear the VU influence. I switched it to my #1 at the last second from "Marx & Engles" on which...you cannot hear the VU influence

L'assie (Euler), Monday, 17 December 2018 15:36 (one year ago) link

LOL

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 17 December 2018 15:37 (one year ago) link

http://i63.tinypic.com/25geblg.jpg

3. Seeing Other People
From If You're Feeling Sinister (1996)
Live at Bowlie Weekender, 1999
Points: 816
Votes: 39
#1 Votes: 4

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 17 December 2018 15:41 (one year ago) link

damn

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 17 December 2018 15:43 (one year ago) link

We go 3 2 and start to slow..

Mark G, Monday, 17 December 2018 15:43 (one year ago) link

(Arbitrary image, admittedly. Decided minutes ago that I didn't like the one I'd had all week.)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 17 December 2018 15:45 (one year ago) link

Pacific Time zone awake let's do this!

campreverb, Monday, 17 December 2018 15:45 (one year ago) link

there's something really incredible about the verse chord progression on this one

the top 2 is pretty perfect no matter the order

ufo, Monday, 17 December 2018 15:45 (one year ago) link

yeah agreed

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 17 December 2018 15:46 (one year ago) link

i also love that it's down to their very first song or their very best single

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 17 December 2018 15:46 (one year ago) link

seeing other people has an amazing piano part, but i left it off my ballot for some reason. maybe cause i had already voted for 7 sinister tracks and i like em all just a little bit more than this one.

bros before HOOS (voodoo chili), Monday, 17 December 2018 15:48 (one year ago) link

wow, four points apart !
I bet The State I am In has like 900 points.

Nabozo, Monday, 17 December 2018 15:49 (one year ago) link

These top 3 are all such perfect songs. And I'm perfectly fine with them at the top, though I had them at 8, 11 and 12 on my own list (with State I Am In highest).

erasingclouds, Monday, 17 December 2018 15:50 (one year ago) link

I only voted for two Sinister tracks and this is one of them. So... well done, people.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 17 December 2018 15:50 (one year ago) link

and LLPJ has 1400 (xposts)

Mark G, Monday, 17 December 2018 15:50 (one year ago) link

i voted for both songs in the top two though they were not very high on my ballot bc i rightly assumed they didn't need me

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 17 December 2018 15:52 (one year ago) link

Pretty interesting that the (presumably) top Sinister song is only #3, after it demolished the album poll

Vinnie, Monday, 17 December 2018 15:52 (one year ago) link

#1 has a VERY convincing lead. Actually, so does #2 over #3.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 17 December 2018 15:53 (one year ago) link

xp idk even without number 1, sinister put in a pretty dominating performance, with 8 of its 10 songs placing and the lowest coming in at #12

bros before HOOS (voodoo chili), Monday, 17 December 2018 15:54 (one year ago) link

Yeah, even though the album dominates the top of the ranking there's been a lot of splitting between the songs. 39 votes for Seeing other People and 24 for Me and the Major or 26 for Judy. TSIai was my 9th. Ok I change my prediction to 950 points (is 1000 even possible).

Nabozo, Monday, 17 December 2018 15:54 (one year ago) link

He'll post Big John Shaft anyway

Nabozo, Monday, 17 December 2018 15:55 (one year ago) link

i am sort of surprised that there was such a split between "mayfly" and "the boy done wrong again" not placing at all, and all the rest placing extremely high. they're the weakest tracks on sinister, sure, but not by that much.

ufo, Monday, 17 December 2018 15:56 (one year ago) link

XP: Apparently 1000 is possible, yes.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 17 December 2018 15:57 (one year ago) link

xp yeah for sure it still crushed

Vinnie, Monday, 17 December 2018 15:58 (one year ago) link

"Mayfly" did okay-ish. "TBDWA" definitely didn't. I was surprised too. I'll show the details shortly.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 17 December 2018 15:59 (one year ago) link

you will have a POLL tonight

rip van wanko, Monday, 17 December 2018 16:00 (one year ago) link

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80. Winter Wooskie
From Legal Man (2000)
Points: 64
Votes: 4
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 17 December 2018 16:01 (one year ago) link

Too high!

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 17 December 2018 16:03 (one year ago) link

The three songs I voted for which didn't make it were I Could be Dreaming, Nobody's Empire, and The Boy Done Wrong Again.

Nabozo, Monday, 17 December 2018 16:03 (one year ago) link

the first two made it in the 20s, iirc

bros before HOOS (voodoo chili), Monday, 17 December 2018 16:04 (one year ago) link

http://i67.tinypic.com/25gv6zk.jpg

2. Lazy Line Painter Jane
From Lazy Line Painter Jane (1997)
Original promo video
Points: 956
Votes: 39
#1 Votes: 4

http://i68.tinypic.com/fa7d75.jpg

1. The State I Am In
From Tigermilk (1996)
Youtube audio track
Points: 1041
Votes: 43
#1 Votes: 3

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 17 December 2018 16:05 (one year ago) link

well, yeah

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 December 2018 16:08 (one year ago) link

two perfect songs

thanks for running this, it's been a great poll and rollout

my ballots:

Tracks:
I'm A Cuckoo
The State I Am In
Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying
Lazy Line Painter Jane
Judy And The Dream Of Horses
Your Cover's Blown
If You're Feeling Sinister
I Could Be Dreaming
Seeing Other People
The Stars Of Track And Field
Electronic Renaissance
I Didn't See It Coming
Stay Loose
Sleep The Clock Around
Step Into My Office, Baby
The Boy With The Arab Strap
Me And The Major
Wrapped Up In Books
Dirty Dream Number Two
Like Dylan In The Movies
She's Losing It
String Bean Jean
The Fox In The Snow
This Is Just A Modern Rock Song
Mayfly
We Rule The School
Sweet Dew Lee
The Boy Done Wrong Again
The Rollercoaster Ride
Slow Graffiti

Albums:
If You're Feeling Sinister
Dear Catastrophe Waitress
Tigermilk
Push Barman To Open Old Wounds
The Boy With The Arab Strap

EPs:
This Is Just A Modern Rock Song
Books
Lazy Line Painter Jane
Dog On Wheels
3.. 6.. 9 Seconds Of Light

ufo, Monday, 17 December 2018 16:08 (one year ago) link

Amazing. I love this poll. Thank you so much.

Alba, Monday, 17 December 2018 16:09 (one year ago) link

oh MAN i just listened to "The State That I Am In" for the first time in ages and I got goosebumps and then my eyes started leaking. The chord changes -- what is it about them?!!?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 17 December 2018 16:11 (one year ago) link

Thanks Nag! Those handclaps in LLPJ, my god.

Rank Name
1 Dirty Dream Number Two
2 Lazy Line Painter Jane
3 If She Wants Me
4 The Rollercoaster Ride
5 Is It Wicked Not to Care?
6 Mayfly
7 It Could Have Been a Brilliant Career
8 The State I Am In
9 If You're Feeling Sinister
10 The Boy With the Arab Strap
11 I Know Where the Summer Goes
12 We Rule the School
13 Seeing Other People
14 Fox in the Snow
15 To Be Myself Completely
16 Get Me Away from Here, I'm Dying
17 Funny Little Frog
18 Judy and the Dream of Horses
19 You're Just a Baby
20 She's Losing It
21 Photo Jenny
22 Sukie in the Graveyard
23 I Fought in a War
24 Seymour Stein
25 Winter Wooskie
26 Scooby Driver
27 Ever Had a Little Faith?
28 Stars of Track and Field
29 Act of the Apostle
30 Beyond the Sunrise

campreverb, Monday, 17 December 2018 16:11 (one year ago) link

thanks for running this, great job!

my ballot:

https://open.spotify.com/user/suckerblues/playlist/2vhPcdKKkFpMYlMsFldf48?si=IhX65UBtShWE3TWTXv_SRQ

resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 17 December 2018 16:11 (one year ago) link


Rank Title Source Pts Votes #1 Votes

61 Mayfly IYFS 155 11 0
125 The Boy Done Wrong Again IYFS 8 2 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 17 December 2018 16:12 (one year ago) link

That was splendid.

ballot:
1. Like Dylan in the Movies
2. Get me away from here I'm dying
3. Judy and her dream of horses
4. Me and the Major
5. If you're feeling sinister
6. Dirty Dream Number Two
7. The Fox in the Snow
8. Dog on Wheels
9. The State I am in
10. Sleep the Clock Around

11. The Model
12. Slow Graffiti
13. She's losing it
14. Seeing other people
15. Seymour Stein
16. The Stars of Track and Field
17. The loneliness of a middle distance runner
18. Piazza, New York Catcher
19. Le Pastie de la Bourgeoisie
20. Beautiful

21. You're just a baby
22. I want the world to stop
23. We rule the school
24. I know where the summer goes
25. I Could be Dreaming
26. Electronic Renaissance
27. Nobody's Empire
28. The Boy Done Wrong Again
29. Ease your Feet into the Sea
30. I didn't see it coming

Nabozo, Monday, 17 December 2018 16:12 (one year ago) link

lol I missed the top ten due to an aborted attempt to sleep the clock around. Great poll nag nag nag!!

Karl Malone, Monday, 17 December 2018 16:13 (one year ago) link

so my first b&s record was barman, so the first song i really heard was "dog on wheels," which is kind of like a world gently unfolding, and then "the state i am in" happened right after and i was like "this is the best song i've ever heard in my fucking life" and the rest is history. good no. 1

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 17 December 2018 16:16 (one year ago) link

and i went through several phases of thinking i was too cool for this band or like i had heard everything basically worth hearing and every time i went back the strength of the songs humbled me incredibly

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 17 December 2018 16:17 (one year ago) link

great poll for a great band. thanks so much nag! it's been a great couple weeks diving back into the discography and re-learning some of these songs on the piano

Tracks:
I'm A Cuckoo
Your Cover's Blown
The State I Am In
Judy And The Dream of Horses
My Wandering Days Are Over
Dress Up In You
The Rollercoaster Ride
Lazy Line Painter Jane
Like Dylan in the Movies
Your Secrets
The Boy With The Arab Strap
If You're Feeling Sinister
Wrapped Up In Books
Expectations
Dirty Dream 2
The Stars of Track And Field
The Loneliness of the Middle Distance Runner
If She Wants Me
Another Sunny Day
Stay Loose
Me and The Major
I Love My Car
Le Pastie De La Bourgeoisie
Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying
I'm Waking Up To Us
The Fox In The Snow
Mornington Crescent
Nobody's Empire
We Are The Sleepyheads
I Fought In A War

LPs:
If You're Feeling Sinister
The Boy With the Arab Strap
Tigermilk
The Life Pursuit
Dear Catastrophe Waitress

EPs:
Books
I'm Waking Up to Us
3...6...9... Seconds of Light
Lazy Line Painter Jane
Dog on Wheels

bros before HOOS (voodoo chili), Monday, 17 December 2018 16:20 (one year ago) link

Good morning all, sorry to have missed the top-10 rollout!

"Boy with the Arab Strap" -- so weird to see them being rock stars and doing "everybody get up on stage" at Glastonbury in that clip. I still, all these years later, think of this as music to be listened to by yourself. But what a song. Everything in the top 10 is so good I hear each song and think "how could this not be top 3?"

"Seeing Other People" and "Stars of Track and Field" my #2 and #3. Had the same reaction as rip van wanko, "I can still remember the feeling, something akin to "i have found my new favorite band" Sad, pretty, dirty all at once, I didn't know you could do that in one song. "Seeing Other People," all these years later, still one of the songs I sing to myself most often when riding my bike, walking down the street, etc. Pretty surprised neither of these is #1.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 17 December 2018 16:21 (one year ago) link

I'll post the full results in the morning (Melbourne time) if there's interest. I need to proceed directly to bed now. :)

Thanks everyone for voting and reading and discussing, etc, etc

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 17 December 2018 16:21 (one year ago) link

very interested in the full results

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 17 December 2018 16:24 (one year ago) link

Here's mine. Fool me for thinking placing it as #3 might be enough to get Fickle Season to place. A somewhat more popular poll thank I'm used to.


TRACKS

Sleep the Clock Around
The State I Am in
Fickle Season
Me and the Major
Like Dylan in the Movies
Shoot the Sexual Athlete
A Summer Wasting
I'm a Cuckoo
Don't Leave the Light On, Baby
Expectations
There's Too Much Love
Put the Book Back on the Shelf/Songs for Children
Seymour Stein
Get Me Away from Here, I'm Dying
If You're Feeling Sinister
The Boy with the Arab Strap
Waiting for the Moon to Rise
Everything is Now (Part Two)
The Model
The Loneliness of a Middle Distance Runner
Sunday’s Pretty Icons
Desperation Made a Fool of Me
I Didn’t See It Coming
Your Cover's Blown
Seeing Other People
We Rule the School
Stay Loose
O Come, O Come Emmanuel
Electronic Renaissance
Simple Things

ALBUMS
If You're Feeling Sinister
Push Barman to Open Old Wounds
The Boy with the Arab Strap
Tigermilk
Fold Your Hands Child, You Walk Like a Peasant

EPs
3.. 6.. 9 Seconds of Light
Dog on Wheels
This Is Just a Modern Rock Song
Lazy Line Painter Jane
How To Solve Our Human Problems (part 1)

Alba, Monday, 17 December 2018 16:24 (one year ago) link

Listening to "The State I Am In" now. Love so much the way the opening verse is almost a capella, you can just barely hear the shy trace of guitar

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 17 December 2018 16:25 (one year ago) link

My ballot. I feel like I was pretty consensus -- the 6 Sinister tracks I voted for are the 6 that made the list, 7 of my top 10 are poll top 10.

1. Judy and the Dream Of Horses
2. Seeing Other People
3. The Stars of Track and Field
4. Lazy Line Painter Jane
5. The State I Am In
6. We Rule The School
7. Expectations
8. If You’re Feeling Sinister
9. Get Me Away From Here, I’m Dying
10. Sleep The Clock Around
11. I Could Be Dreaming
12. Family Tree
13. Don’t Leave The Light On Baby
14. The Boy With The Arab Strap
15. If You Find Yourself Caught In Love
16. You’re Just A Baby
17. Like Dylan In the Movies
18. She’s Losing It
19. I’m Waking Up To Us
20. I’m a Cuckoo
21. This Is Just A Modern Rock Song
22. My Wandering Days are Over
23. I Don’t Love Anyone
24. I Love My Car
25. Legal Man
26. A Century of Fakers
27. For the Price of a Cup of Tea
28. Beyond the Sunrise
29. Women’s Realm
30. Stay Loose

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 17 December 2018 16:29 (one year ago) link

here is my objectively perfect ballot (except that i should've found some space for "power of three")

TRACKS
Dirty Dream Number Two
Desperation Made a Fool of Me
If She Wants Me
Beautiful
I'm a Cuckoo
Nobody's Empire
If You're Feeling Sinister
Slow Graffiti
Like Dylan in the Movies
She's Losing It
I Could Be Dreaming
Stay Loose
The Rollercoaster Ride
The Model
I Didn't See It Coming
A Century of Fakers
The Book of You
Dress Up in You
String Bean Jean
Lazy Line Painter Jane
You're Just a Baby
Women's Realm
The Loneliness of the Middle Distance Runner
There's Too Much Love
Sleep the Clock Around
Play for Today
Your Cover's Blown
The State I Am In
Take Your Carriage Clock and Shove It
La Pastie de la Bourgeoisie

ALBUMS
Girls in Peacetime Want to Dance
Dear Catastrophe Waitress
Push Barman to Open Old Wounds
If You're Feeling Sinister
Tigermilk

EPs
3.. 6.. 9 Seconds of Light
Dog on Wheels
Jonathan David
This is Just a Modern Rock Song
Books

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 17 December 2018 16:30 (one year ago) link

This will get buried but attempt to answer this re: TSTIAI

The chord changes -- what is it about them?!!?

― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, December 17, 2018 8:11 AM (nine minutes ago)

The bulk of the song is written in a somewhat descending A#m-G#m-F#-B-C#-B six chord progression... EXCEPT the first line of every verse which transposes the relative major of the first 2 chords (also the same chords of the last two of the series. So when you first hear the verse progression it just feels like it never resolves as you keep waiting for A#m-G#m to show up again and instead seems locked into the B-C#-B loop.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 17 December 2018 16:30 (one year ago) link

lmao actually that was my first draft, oh well xp

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 17 December 2018 16:30 (one year ago) link

Sorry I missed the end of this rollout. What a great poll! thank you Nag! Nag! Nag! The State I Am In and Lazy Line Painter Jane are a perfect 1 & 2

Tracks

If You're Feeling Sinister
The State I Am In
The Stars of Track and Field
Jonathan David
The Boy With the Arab Strap
The Rollercoaster Ride
Belle & Sebastian
The Fox in the Snow
Piazza, New York Catcher
Seymour Stein
We Rule the School
Judy and the Dream of Horses
A Summer Wasting
You're Just a Baby
Lazy Line Painter Jane
The Cat With the Cream
Lord Anthony
Dog on Wheels
Beautiful
Slow Graffiti
Put the Book Back on the Shelf
I'm Waking Up to Us
Wrapped Up in Books
Like Dylan in the Movies
Take Your Carriage Clock and Shove It
Nobody's Empire
Act of the Apostle
The Party Line
Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying
I Fought in a War

Albums

If You're Feeling Sinister
Tigermilk
The Boy With the Arab Strap
Girls in Peacetime Want to Dance
Dear Catastrophe Waitress

EPs

3.. 6.. 9 Seconds of Light
Jonathan David
Dog on Wheels
Lazy Line Painter Jane
I'm Waking Up to Us

Dan S, Monday, 17 December 2018 16:33 (one year ago) link

Okay, here's a rushed attempt re full results. Hopefully I extracted all I thought I extracted.


Rank Title Source Pts Votes #1 Votes

140 Same Star HTSOHP 2 2 1 0
139 Cornflakes HTSOHP 2 3 1 0
138 The Magic of a Kind Word BBC 5/01 3 1 0
137 Best Friend HTSOHP 3 4 1 0
136 Poor Boy HTSOHP 3 4 1 0
135 The Girl Doesn't Get It HTSOHP 1 4 1 0
134 O Come, O Come Emmanuel COMP 4 1 0
133 Ever Had a Little Faith? GIPWTD 5 1 0
132 The Boys are Back in Town (Lynott) BBC 12/01 5 1 0
131 (I Believe In) Travellin' Light IAC 6 1 0
130 Beyond the Sunrise FYHCY 6 2 0
129 God Help the Girl GHTG 8 1 0
128 The Power of Three GIPWTD 8 1 0
127 Calculating Bimbo WAL 8 2 0
126 Fuck This Shit STORY 8 1 0
125 The Boy Done Wrong Again IYFS 8 2 0
124 I'm Not Living in the Real World WAL 9 1 0
123 Scooby Driver STORY 9 2 0
122 Everything Is Now (Part Two) HTSOHP 3 14 1 0
121 The Gate TIJAMRS 14 1 0
120 (My Girl's Got) Miraculous Technique BBC 5/01 15 2 0
119 The Book of You GIPWTD 16 1 0
118 The Everlasting Muse GIPWTD 16 1 0
117 I'll Have To Dance With Cassie GHTG 17 1 0
116 Perfection As A Hipster GHTG 17 1 0
115 Suicide Girl WAL+ 17 1 0
114 Heaven in the Afternoon WCB 17 1 0
113 The Ghost of Rockschool WAL 19 2 0
112 A Space Boy Dream TBWTAS 19 1 0
111 A Century of Elvis LLPJ 19 2 0
110 Chickfactor TBWTAS 21 2 0
109 We Were Beautiful HTSOHP 1 22 1 0
108 Your Secrets BOOKS 22 1 0
107 Roy Walker DCW 23 2 0
106 Storytelling STORY 23 2 0
105 Black and White Unite STORY 23 2 0
104 Perfect Couples GIPWTD 24 1 0
103 Waiting for the Moon to Rise FYHCY 26 3 0
102 Little Lou, Ugly Jack, Prophet John WAL 28 1 0
101 Sunday's Pretty Icons WAL 31 2 0
100 The Chalet Lines FYHCYWLAP 31 3 0
99 Nice Day for a Sulk FYHCYWLAP 32 3 0
98 Fickle Season HTSOHP 1 33 1 0
97 Enter Sylvia Plath GIPWTD 33 3 0
96 Song for Sunshine TLP 33 3 0
95 Shoot the Sexual Athlete BBC 5/01 33 2 0
94 Pocketbook Angel DEMO 34 2 0
93 Sweet Dew Lee HTSOHP 1 35 3 0
92 For the Price of a Cup of Tea TLP 35 2 0
91 Lord Anthony DCW 43 3 0
90 Come On Sister WAL 44 4 0
89 Judy Is a Dick Slap LM 45 5 0
88 We Are the Sleepyheads TLP 49 7 0
87 The Party Line GIPWTD 51 8 0
86 Big John Shaft STORY 52 3 0
85 Asleep on a Sunbeam DCW 53 6 0
84 Take Your Carriage Clock and Shove It JD 54 7 0
83 Desperation Made a Fool of Me SIMOB 56 3 0
82 The Wrong Girl FYHCYWLAP 59 4 0
81 The Cat With the Cream GIPWTD 61 6 0
80 Winter Wooskie LM 64 4 0
79 Mary Jo TIGER 65 6 0
78 Family Tree FYHCYWLAP 78 6 0
77 Allie GIPWTD 83 5 0
76 Mornington Crescent TLP 83 6 0
75 You Don't Send Me DCW 88 5 0
74 Dear Catastrophe Waitress DCW 99 6 0
73 Marx and Engels IWUTU 101 5 0
72 To Be Myself Completely TLP 105 8 0
71 White Collar Boy TLP 111 8 0
70 Act of the Apostle TLP 119 10 0
69 Sukie in the Graveyard TLP 122 9 0
68 I Love My Car IWUTU 125 10 0
67 Belle & Sebastian DOW 127 9 0
66 Write About Love WAL 134 8 0
65 Play for Today GIPWTD 137 10 0
64 Legal Man LM 138 12 0
63 Simple Things TBWTAS 140 9 0
62 You Made Me Forget My Dreams LLPJ 141 7 0
61 Mayfly IYFS 155 11 0
60 I Don't Love Anyone TIGER 156 11 0
59 If You Find Yourself Caught in Love DCW 157 9 0
58 I Want the World to Stop WAL 158 11 0
57 The Blues Are Still Blue TLP 168 13 0
56 I Fought in a War FYHCYWLAP 177 13 0
55 Put the Book Back on the Shelf/Songs... 369SOL 178 12 1
54 I Know Where the Summer Goes TIJAMRS 179 13 0
53 Beautiful 369SOL 181 10 0
52 Ease Your Feet in the Sea TBWTAS 187 11 1
51 Is It Wicked Not to Care TBWTAS 206 12 0
50 Dress Up in You TLP 209 10 0
49 I Didn't See It Coming WAL 216 13 1
48 Jonathan David JD 221 12 0
47 Photo Jenny LLPJ 228 16 0
46 There's Too Much Love FYHCYWLAP 238 15 0
45 I'm Waking Up to Us IWUTU 244 18 0
44 It Could Have Been a Brilliant Career TBWTAS 244 15 0
43 Another Sunny Day TLP 248 12 0
42 My Wandering Days Are Over TIGER 257 16 0
41 Seymour Stein TBWTAS 258 14 0
40 Piazza, New York Catcher DCW 271 18 0
39 We Rule the School TIGER 276 21 0
38 The Rollercoaster Ride TBWTAS 283 18 0
37 String Bean Jean DOW 283 17 0
36 You're Just a Baby TIGER 285 17 1
35 Funny Little Frog TLP 287 14 1
34 Le Pastie de la Bourgeoisie 369SOL 292 20 1
33 A Century of Fakers 369SOL 293 15 1
32 Step Into My Office, Baby DCW 297 16 0
31 Wrapped Up in Books DCW 300 21 0
30 Women's Realm FYHCYWLAP 305 21 0
29 Don't Leave the Light on Baby FYHCYWLAP 310 17 0
28 The Model FYHCYWLAP 322 19 1
27 I Could Be Dreaming TIGER 324 16 1
26 A Summer Wasting TBWTAS 327 15 0
25 Electronic Renaissance TIGER 335 23 0
24 Nobody's Empire GIPWTD 348 18 1
23 The Loneliness of a Middle Distance R... JD 365 20 0
22 Expectations TIGER 380 24 0
21 Your Cover's Blown BOOKS 398 20 2
20 This Is Just a Modern Rock Song TIJAMRS 400 23 1
19 She's Losing It TIGER 412 25 0
18 Dog on Wheels DOW 413 20 0
17 If She Wants Me DCW 442 21 0
16 Slow Graffiti TIJAMRS 486 23 2
15 Dirty Dream Number Two TBWTAS 486 26 2
14 Stay Loose DCW 489 26 4
13 The Fox in the Snow IYFS 509 26 1
12 Me and the Major IYFS 509 24 2
11 Judy and the Dream of Horses IYFS 564 26 1
10 Sleep the Clock Around TBWTAS 583 33 1
9 The Boy With the Arab Strap TBWTAS 623 32 3
8 The Stars of Track and Field IYFS 711 35 1
7 If You're Feeling Sinister IYFS 723 34 2
6 I'm a Cuckoo DCW 728 31 2
5 Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying IYFS 762 37 0
4 Like Dylan in the Movies IYFS 812 34 4
3 Seeing Other People IYFS 816 39 4
2 Lazy Line Painter Jane LLPJ 956 39 4
1 The State I Am In TIGER 1041 43 3

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 17 December 2018 16:34 (one year ago) link

What track are you all most surprised missed the top 60 and curious about where it landed? For me it's Simple Things.

Alba, Monday, 17 December 2018 16:36 (one year ago) link

Xpost whoop, thanks

Alba, Monday, 17 December 2018 16:36 (one year ago) link

Yes, I had Simple Things at #3.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 17 December 2018 16:37 (one year ago) link

shocked that I'm the sole "God Help the Girl" voter! and "Play for Today" got so close to the rollout...

resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 17 December 2018 16:40 (one year ago) link

This has been fantastic. Thank you for the chance to fall in love all over again. And wear Terry Towelling.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Monday, 17 December 2018 16:41 (one year ago) link

Surprised "Dear Catastrophe Waitress" didn't make it. Surprised "The Boy Done Wrong Again" only got 2 votes.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 17 December 2018 16:41 (one year ago) link

let's re-poll with 50 slots apiece in a decade's time

resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 17 December 2018 16:42 (one year ago) link

My list

Tracks

1 Stay Loose
2 If You're Feeling Sinister
3 Nobody's Empire
4 Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying
5 The Stars of Track and Field
6 Play for Today
7 Step Into My Office, Baby
8 The State I Am In
9 Seeing Other People
10 I Could Be Dreaming
11 Like Dylan in the Movies
12 Mayfly
13 I Fought in a War
14 Don't Leave the Light on Baby
15 Black and White Unite
16 Judy and the Dream of Horses
17 I'm Waking Up to Us
18 You're Just a Baby
19 Act of the Apostle
20 I Didn't See It Coming
21 Expectations
22 I'm a Cuckoo
23 Storytelling
24 I Want the World to Stop
25 Is It Wicked Not to Care
26 Write About Love
27 The Blues Are Still Blue
28 Le Pastie de la Bourgeoisie
29 The Chalet Lines
30 Funny Little Frog

Albums

1 If You're Feeling Sinister
2 Tigermilk
3 Dear Catastrophe Waitress
4 Girls in Peacetime Want to Dance
5 The Life Pursuit

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 17 December 2018 16:43 (one year ago) link

As a non-B+S fan, I think "Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying", is the only song of theirs I recognize - though I didn't know it was them for years, I just thought, "Not that annoying song again", so it's possible I might recognize other songs. I've tried listening to quite a lot of the tracks in this poll and, no, it's still not working for me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christ (Tom D.), Monday, 17 December 2018 16:43 (one year ago) link

let's re-poll with 50 slots apiece in a decade's time

i will try to remember to bump this in 10 years, but it might be difficult to remember when i'm flying to different planets in my space car

Karl Malone, Monday, 17 December 2018 16:44 (one year ago) link

I'm surprised Legal Man, with 12 voters, didn't have the oomph to push it past the haters.

eva logorrhea (bendy), Monday, 17 December 2018 16:46 (one year ago) link

1. Lazy Line Painter Jane
Dirty Dream #2
Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying
She's Loosing It
Legal Man
Step Into My Office, Baby
Nobody's Empire
Dog On Wheels
I Want the World To Stop
Allie
Like Dylan in the Movies
Piazza, New York Catcher
Le Pastie De La Bourgeoisie
Jonathan David
If You're Feeling Sinister
Don't Leave the Light On Baby
The Stars of Track and Field
A Summer Wasting
Expectations
The Blues Are Still Blue
Write About Love
The State That I Am In
The Loneliness of the Middle Distance Runner
You're Just a Baby
Waiting for the Moon to Rise
String Bean Jane
Sleep the Clock Around
Sukie in the Graveyard
Seeing Other People
30. Judy is a Dickslap

Albums
1. If You're Feeling Sinister
Push Barman
Boy with the Arab Strap
Tigermilk
5. Girls in Peacetime

EPs
1. Lazy Line Painter Jane
2. Dog on Wheels
3. Legal Man
4. 3..6..9 Seconds of Light
5. Jonathan David

eva logorrhea (bendy), Monday, 17 December 2018 16:49 (one year ago) link

83 Desperation Made a Fool of Me SIMOB 56 3 0

what is up to my other two friends

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 17 December 2018 16:49 (one year ago) link

What a fun poll! Thanks for doing it. Here's my ballot.

I wish I'd worked in "Beautiful" and "The Power of Three".

Songs:

1. A Century of Fakers

2. Get Me Away From Here I'm Dying

3. This Is Just a Modern Rock Song

4. The Stars of Track and Field

5. Nobody's Empire

6. Wrapped up in Books

7. Mornington Crescent

8. The State I Am In

9. Judy and the Dream of Horses

10. Mary Jo

11. Lazy Line Painter Jane

12. Seeing Other People

13. We Rule the School

14. There's Too Much Love

15. It Could Have Been a Brilliant Career

16. Family Tree

17. I Want the World to Stop

18. Women's Realm

19. Sleep the Clock Around

20. Slow Graffiti

21. The Boy with the Arab Strap

22. If She Wants Me

23. I Didn't See it Coming

24. Put the Book Back on the Shelf

25. Play for Today

26. Electronic Renaissance

27. Piazza, New York Catcher

28. Come On Sister

29. The Wrong Girl

30. We are the Sleepyheads

Albums:

1. If You’re Feeling Sinister

2. Dear Catastrophe Waitress

3. Fold Your Hands Child, You Walk Like a Peasant

4. Tigermilk

5. The Boy With the Arab Strap

EPs:

1. This Is Just a Modern Rock Song

2. 3…6…9 Seconds of Light

3. Lazy Line Painter Jane

4. Dog on Wheels

5. Books

erasingclouds, Monday, 17 December 2018 16:50 (one year ago) link

Thanks for running this poll, Nag Nag Nag, it's been something more than wonderful

My votes (bold for didn't place in top 60)

Tracks

The State I Am In
Slow Graffiti
The Loneliness of a Middle Distance Runner
Put the Book Back on the Shelf/Songs for Children
Electronic Renaissance
I Could Be Dreaming
Lazy Line Painter Jane
Me and the Major
Expectations
This Is Just a Modern Rock Song
Stay Loose
Le Pastie de la Bourgeoisie
Photo Jenny
Dear Catastrophe Waitress
Seeing Other People
The Blues Are Still Blue
My Wandering Days Are Over
Your Cover's Blown (Miaoux Miaoux Mix)
You're Just a Baby
Play For Today
Step Into My Office, Baby
We Are the Sleepyheads
She's Losing It
Dirty Dream Number Two
The Boy With the Arab Strap
Black and White Unite
Judy Is a Dick Slap
Women's Realm
I Didn't See It Coming
I'm a Cuckoo

Albums

Tigermilk
Dear Catastrophe Waitress
Push Barmaid To Open Old Wounds
Girls In Peacetime Want To Dance
The Life Pursuit

EPs

3.. 6.. 9 Seconds of Light
Lazy Line Painter Jane
This is Just A Modern Rock Song
Books
Dog on Wheels

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 17 December 2018 17:00 (one year ago) link

Song I think I most regret not giving a vote to, given the results: Storytelling. It's such a delight.

Alba, Monday, 17 December 2018 17:01 (one year ago) link

sorry to miss the end of the poll, thanks so much for running it Nag!

Albums

1. If You’re Feeling Sinister
2. Push Barman to Open Old Wounds
3. The Life Pursuit
4. Dear Catastrophe Waitress
5. Tigermilk

Tracks

1. If You’re Feeling Sinister
2. Slow Graffiti
3. The Loneliness of a Middle Distance Runner
4. The State I am In
5. Your Cover’s Blown
6. The Fox in the Snow
7. Step into My Office Baby
8. Get Me Away From Here, I’m Dying
9. If You Find Yourself Caught in Love
10. I Fought in a War
11. String Bean Jean
12. Dog On Wheels
13. Like Dylan in the Movies
14. Funny Little Frog
15. To Be Myself Completely
16. The Stars of Track and Field
17. There’s Too Much Love
18. Me and the Major
19. Dress Up in You
20. Don’t Leave the Light on Baby
21. Expectations
22. Seeing Other People
23. I Know Where the Summer Goes
24. The Boy with the Arab Strap
25. Women’s Realm
26. Le Pastie de la Bourgeoisie
27. This is Just a Modern Rock Song
28. Cat With the Cream
29. Belle & Sebastian
30. Allie

devvvine, Monday, 17 December 2018 17:02 (one year ago) link

my unplaceds: "Play for Today," "Cat With the Cream," "Same Star," "God Help the Girl," "Family Tree," "Mornington Crescent"

resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 17 December 2018 17:03 (one year ago) link

You’re Just A Baby
Don’t Leave The Light On Baby
The State I Am In
Like Dylan In The Movies
Dog On Wheels
Electronic Renaissance
Seeing Other People
A Summer Wasting
If You’re Feeling Sinister
The Rollercoaster Ride
I Could Be Dreaming
Piazza, New York Catcher
She’s Losing It
I Fought In A War
I Don’t Love Anyone
Mayfly
Women’s Realm
Get Me Away From Here, I’m Dying
I Want The World To Stop
Sleep The Clock Around
String Bean Jean
Stay Loose
Le Pastie De La Bourgeoisie
Your Cover’s Blown
The Boy With The Arab Strap
Lazy Line Painter Jane
There’s Too Much Love
Poor Boy
Write About Love

Wrapped Up In Books

Tigermilk
If You’re Feeling Sinister
Fold Your Hands Child You Walk Like A Peasant
The Boy With The Arab Strap
Dear Catastrophe Waitress

Dog on Wheels
Lazy Line Painter Jane
3.. 6.. 9 Seconds of Light
Jonathan David
Legal Man

Karl Malone, Monday, 17 December 2018 17:05 (one year ago) link

My non-top 60 tracks: Your Secrets, I Love My Car, Mornington Crescent, We Are The Sleepyheads

bros before HOOS (voodoo chili), Monday, 17 December 2018 17:09 (one year ago) link

Re "Mayfly," I love the line "I don't mind the sight of you" so much -- the way he takes a standard phrase ("I can't stand the sight of you") and then reasons, what would be the mild, Belle and Sebastian version of this?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 17 December 2018 17:12 (one year ago) link

Was surprised to see that 9 other people voted for "I Love My Car", but cheers to you all:
"I love my Carl / I love my Brian my Dennis and my Al / I could even find it in my head to love Mike Love"

enochroot, Monday, 17 December 2018 17:24 (one year ago) link

Looks like my poll entries that didn't place are mostly from Storytelling:
6. Big John Shaft
20. Marx and Engels
24. Fuck This Shit
25. Mornington Crescent
29. Scooby Driver
30. I Love My Car

Incidentally, I was the only person to vote for this song, which tells me that most people probably haven't heard it.

enochroot, Monday, 17 December 2018 17:28 (one year ago) link

Fuck This Shit just missed my top 30, it is lovely though

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 17 December 2018 17:30 (one year ago) link

107 Roy Walker DCW 23 2 0

also i'm glad this delightful song often singled out as the worst dcw track got two votes

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 17 December 2018 17:38 (one year ago) link

"Marx & Engles" was my #2, and "I Love My Car" my #12. I probably listen to the I'm Waking Up to Us EP more than anything else by this band.

L'assie (Euler), Monday, 17 December 2018 17:50 (one year ago) link

Thanks for this poll. It was nearly 20 years ago upon first hearing "The Stars of Track and Field" that immediately knew I had a new favorite band.

ALBUMS
1. If You're Feeling Sinister
2. Dear Catastrophe Waitress
3. Tigermilk
4. The Boy With The Arab Strap
5. Girls In Peacetime Want To Dance

EPs
1. I'm Waking Up To Us
2. Lazy Line Painter Jane
3. This Is Just A Modern Rock Song
4. Jonathan David
5. 3..6..9..Seconds of Light

TRACKS
1. Seeing Other People
2. Lazy Line Painter Jane
3. Nobody's Empire
4. I'm A Cuckoo
5. The Stars Of Track and Field
6. Slow Graffiti
7. Dress Up In You
8. Marx and Engels
9. The State I'm In
10. Stay Loose
11. Judy and the Dream of Horses
12. I Didn't See It Coming
13. Sleep The Clock Around
14. I Love My Car
15. I Know Where The Summer Goes
16. The Fox In The Snow
17. The Boy With The Arab Strap
18. I'm Waking Up To Us
19. We Rule The School
20. This Is Just A Modern Rock Song
21. Don't Leave the Light On Baby
22. Dirty Dream Number Two
23. Piazza, New York Catcher
24. Expectations
25. Seymour Stein
26. The Party Line
27. Mornington Crescent
28. I Don't Love Anyone
29. There's Too Much Love
30. Enter Sylvia Plath

gardening@night, Monday, 17 December 2018 18:39 (one year ago) link

thanks Nag!

rip van wanko, Monday, 17 December 2018 18:54 (one year ago) link

The Boy With The Arab Strap
Another Sunny Day
Mayfly
Nobody's Empire
Dress Up In You
Me and the Major
I'm a Cuckoo
Seeing Other People
Lazy Line Painter Jane
Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying
She's Losing It
The Blues Are Still Blue
Judy and the Dream of Horses
The Stars of Track and Field
This Is Just a Modern Rock Song
If She Wants Me
The State I Am In
White Collar Boy
The Fox in the Snow
Is It Wicked Not To Care?
We Rule The School
Susie in the Graveyard
Seymour Stein
Piazza, New York Catcher
If You're Feeling Sinister

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Monday, 17 December 2018 19:04 (one year ago) link

this seems like damning with faint praise, but I really love how Mayfly ties the sequencing together of IYFS. I don't think you can overlook it's pop value in an album that could have come across as fairly bitter. I suppose one of the downsides of a tracks poll is that somewhat slight songs don't hold up that well in the sunlight, but it's hard for me to imagine that album without it.

campreverb, Monday, 17 December 2018 19:15 (one year ago) link

TRACKS
Lazy Line Painter Jane
Dirty Dream Number Two
If You're Feeling Sinister
The Stars of Track and Field
Beautiful
Judy and the Dream of Horses
A Century of Fakers
Le Pastie de la Bourgeoisie
A Summer Wasting
The State I Am In
Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying
String Bean Jean
Nobody's Empire
The Loneliness of a Middle Distance Runner
She's Losing It
Lord Anthony
Seeing Other People
The Model
The Fox in the Snow
The Boy With the Arab Strap
Your Cover's Blown
Photo Jenny
Expectations
Mary Jo
Wrapped Up in Books
The Cat With the Cream
Sukie in the Graveyard
Pocketbook Angel
Slow Graffiti
The Ghost of Rockschool

ALBUMS
If You're Feeling Sinister
Push Barman to Open Old Wounds
Tigermilk
The Boy with the Arab Strap
Dear Catastrophe Waitress

doctor johnson (askance johnson), Monday, 17 December 2018 19:16 (one year ago) link

this seems like damning with faint praise, but I really love how Mayfly ties the sequencing together of IYFS. I don't think you can overlook it's pop value in an album that could have come across as fairly bitter

it's kind of a perfect album track tbh, it pulls you right out of the sadder and more expansive mood of the title track and you don't really notice it happening

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 17 December 2018 19:25 (one year ago) link

I suspect my ballot is slightly heavier on later stuff compared to others.

1. Nobody’s Empire
2. The Boy With the Arab Strap
3. I Didn’t See it Coming (Richard X remix)
4. Judy and the Dream of Horses
5. Little Lou, Ugly Jack, Prophet John
6. Lazy Line Painter Jane
7. This is Just a Modern Rock Song
8. I’m a Cuckoo (Avalanches remix)
9. The State I’m In
10. Is it Wicked Not to Care?
11. The Stars of Track and Field
12. Write About Love
13. Me and the Major
14. Seymour Stein
15. Step Into My Office Baby
16. Chickfactor
17. Come on Sister
18. Fox in the Snow
19. Ease your Feet in the Sea
20. Piazza, New York Catcher
21. Wrapped up in Books
22. Photo Jenny
23. I’m Not Living in the Real World
24. Like Dylan in the Movies
25. Legal Man
26. Calculating Bimbo
27. I Want The World To Stop
28. Funny Little Frog (GHTG)
29. Seeing Other People
30. The Party Line

Albums:
1. The Boy With The Arab Strap
2. If You’re Feeling Sinister
3. Write About Love
4. Dear Catastrophe Waitress
5. God Help The Girl

Dan Worsley, Monday, 17 December 2018 19:40 (one year ago) link

The part of "Mayfly" is when the drums switch to double time, all the way through to "you know it's a crying shame" is ace.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 17 December 2018 19:41 (one year ago) link

Is there a Spotify link to the results?

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 17 December 2018 20:07 (one year ago) link

yep - it's in the first post

Karl Malone, Monday, 17 December 2018 20:08 (one year ago) link

I wasn't going to vote. I'm going through a difficult life transition rn, and all my B&S CDs are in storage for the time being. But I went for it on memory alone.

TRACKS:

1. The Stars of Track And Field

2. The Wrong Girl

3. Lazy Line Painter Jane

4. Another Sunny Day

5. Like Dylan In The Movies

6. To Be Myself Completely

7. Seeing Other People

8. Don’t Leave The Light On Baby

9. Step Into My Office, Baby

10. Sleep The Clock Around

11. Write About Love

12. Act of The Apostle (I)

13. I Fought In A War

14. Me & The Major

15. A Century of Fakers

16. Photo Jenny

17, La Pastie de la Bourgeoisie

18. Put the Book Back On The Shelf

19. I Love My Car

20. Your Cover’s Blown

21. Funny Little Frog

22. Jonathon David

23. The Blues Are Still Blue

24. White Collar Boy

25. Dirty Dream Number 2

26. I’m Waking Up To Us

27. The Model

28. Legal Man

29. (My Girl’s Got) Miraculous Technique

30. A Century of Elvis

ALBUMS:

1. Push Barman To Reopen Old Wounds

2. The Life Pursuit

3. Write About Love

4. If You’re Feeling Sinister

5. The Boy With The Arab Strap

Infidels, Like Dylan In The Eighties (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 17 December 2018 20:40 (one year ago) link

Songs:
The Model
The State I Am In
Dirty Dream Number Two
The Stars of Track and Field
Lazy Line Painter Jane
Electronic Renaissance
Play For Today
Dress Up In You
If She Wants Me
I Want the World To Stop
Seeing Other People
I'm A Cuckoo
Women's Realm
She's Losing It
Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying
String Bean Jean
There's Too Much Love
The Fox In the Snow
Sleep the Clock Around
White Collar Boy
I'm Waking Up to Us
Dog On Wheels
To Be Myself Completely
Legal Man
Belle and Sebastian
I Could Be Dreaming
Put the Book Back On the Shelf/Songs For Children
The Boy With the Arab Strap
Mary Jo
Beautiful

Albums:
Push Barman to Open Old Wounds
Fold Your Hands Child, You Walk Like A Peasant
If You're Feeling Sinister
Tigermilk
The Life Pursuit

EPs:
Dog On Wheels
3...6...9 Seconds of Light
Lazy Line Painter Jane
I'm Waking Up to Us
Books

J. Sam, Monday, 17 December 2018 20:49 (one year ago) link

Here's the known B&S tracks from the other thread that didn't receive a single vote. (Hopefully there'll be no "b-b-but, I did vote for that--you screwed up." :) )


Hurley's Having Dreams DEMO
London Has Let Me Down Again DEMO
Are You Coming Over For Christmas? XMAS
Paper Boat OUTTAKE
Nothing in the Silence BBC 5/01
Here Comes the Sun (Harrison) BBC 12/01
I'm Waiting for the Man (Reed) BBC 12/01
Fiction STORY
Freak STORY
Night Walk STORY
Consuelo STORY
I Don't Want to Play Football STORY
Consuelo Leaving STORY
Wandering Alone STORY
Fiction Reprise STORY
Final Day (Young Marble Giants) RT 25
Love on the March SIMOB
Stop, Look and Listen IAC
Act of the Apostle II TLP
Meat and Potatoes FLF
I Took a Long Hard Look FLF
The Eighth Station of the Cross Kebab House FLF
Cassaco Marron (Trio Esperança) LNT I
The Life Pursuit TBASB
Mr. Richard TBASB
Whiskey in the Jar (Trad) TBASB
Long Black Scarf WCB
Baby Jane (Stewart) WCB
The Monkeys Are Breaking Out the Zoo COMP
Read the Blessed Pages WAL
I Can See Your Future WAL
Last Trip WAL+
Blue Eyes of a Millionaire WAL+
Crash (Primitives) LNT II
Today (This Army's for Peace) GIPWTD
Born To Act GIPWTD+
Two Birds GIPWTD+
Piggy In The Middle GIPWTD+
A Politician's Silence GIPWTD+
Olympic Village, 6am DIGITAL. SING
Everything is Now HTSOHP 1
Show Me the Sun HTSOHP 2
I'll Be Your Pilot HTSOHP 2
A Plague on All the Other Boys HTSOHP 2
Too Many Tears HTSOHP 3
There is an Everlasting Song HTSOHP 3

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 17 December 2018 21:11 (one year ago) link

These must be the only things I voted for that we didn't appear yesterday. Clearly I should have expanded the countdown out to 70. #TeamSimpleThings


95 Shoot the Sexual Athlete BBC 5/01 33 2 0
81 The Cat With the Cream GIPWTD 61 6 0
70 Act of the Apostle TLP 119 10 0
63 Simple Things TBWTAS 140 9 0
62 You Made Me Forget My Dreams LLPJ 141 7 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 17 December 2018 21:31 (one year ago) link

"the cat with the cream" forever

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 17 December 2018 21:33 (one year ago) link

OTM.

Could have sworn someone voted for "Today (This Army's for Peace)" too. Hopefully it was just my own provisional list that I'm thinking of. *has panic attack*

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 17 December 2018 21:49 (one year ago) link

"today" is a great song but i can see how it could've missed every ballot

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 17 December 2018 21:59 (one year ago) link

Great poll, I hadn't really listened to B&S in a long time and it's been great fun remembering how much I was into this band when I was just out of my teens.

TRACKS
Like Dylan in the Movies
Dog on Wheels
The Loneliness of a Middle Distance Runner
Slow Graffiti
The State I Am In
The Fox in the Snow
Simple Things
You Made Me Forget My Dreams
Lazy Line Painter Jane
I Could Be Dreaming
Electronic Renaissance
The Model
Me and the Major
Dirty Dream #2
You're Just a Baby
Seeing Other People
A Summer Wasting
Sleep the Clock Around
Le Pastie de la Bourgeoisie
The Stars of Track and Field
She's Losing It
My Wandering Days Are Over
Wrapped Up in Books
Photo Jenny
Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying
Belle and Sebastian
Women's Realm
Mayfly
I Know Where the Summer Goes
The Boy With the Arab Strap

ALBUMS
If You're Feeling Sinister
Tigermilk
The Boy With the Arab Strap
Push Barman to Open Old Wounds
Fold Your Hands Child, You Walk Like a Peasant

EPs
Lazy Line Painter Jane
This Is Just a Modern Rock Song
Dog on Wheels
3..6..9 Seconds of Light
Jonathan David

Gavin, Leeds, Monday, 17 December 2018 22:11 (one year ago) link

Ah sad, I love "You Made Me Forget My Dreams" and wish it'd placed higher.. surprised that "Lazy Line Painter Jane" is so popular! great song

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 17 December 2018 22:14 (one year ago) link

Surprised these ones didn’t quite make it:

67 Belle & Sebastian
64 Legal Man
63 Simple Things
62 You Made Me Forget My Dreams

the salacious inaudible (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 17 December 2018 22:32 (one year ago) link

The Cat with the Cream is underrated, as are Lord Anthony and Belle & Sebastian, I think

Dan S, Monday, 17 December 2018 22:35 (one year ago) link

OTM.

And I totally share #TeamYouMadeMeForgetMyDreams's sorrow.

But the biggest shock for me remains the utter unpopularity of "Boy Done Wrong Again". Didn't vote for it, but hadn't anticipated a conspicuously (near-)empty row in a spreadsheet, something that was overwise reserved for the likes of "A Space Boy Dream".

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 17 December 2018 23:01 (one year ago) link

I was thinking of including “Today” on the ballot I didn’t submit, relistening I think it’s great. “Ever Had a Little Faith” is fantastic too. Sure is a long album though.

JoeStork, Monday, 17 December 2018 23:22 (one year ago) link

One more stat and then I'll shut up. I was vaguely alluding to it a couple of days ago, but couldn't really reveal it.

The conventional studio albums ranked by the sum of their constituent track scores. IYFS's dominance is even scarier here:


IYFS 5569
Tigermilk 3531
TBWTAS 3377
DCW 2990
FYHCYWLAP 1584
TLP 1569
GIPWTD 782
WAP 647

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 17 December 2018 23:32 (one year ago) link

Where does PBTOOW place?

Mark G, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 00:07 (one year ago) link

I'm glad you asked. I'd wondered myself but had been too lazy to do the extra fiddling.

It's an impressive score, even with "The State I Am In" excluded:


DOW 823
LLPJ 1344
369SOL 944
TIJAMRS 1079
LM 247
JD 640
IWUTU 470

=

PBTOOW 5547

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 00:21 (one year ago) link

Many thanks to Mr. Nag! for running this. It's been a blast, and it will live forever in the funny little frog of my heart.

My ballot:
Tracks
1
Me and the Major
Lazy Line Painter Jane
I Don’t Love Anyone
Nobody’s Empire
I’m Waking Up to Us
String Bean Jean
Piazza, New York Catcher
Sukie In the Graveyard
If She Wants Me
Seeing Other People
The Stars of Track and Field
Photo Jenny
If You’re Feeling Sinister
Dress Up In You
Ease Your Feet in the Sea
Get Me Away From Here, I’m Dying
Sleep the Clock Around
Jonathan David
The Rollercoaster Ride
The Boy with the Arab Strap
Allie
Another Sunny Day
Act of the Apolstle
She’s Losing It
You’re Just a Baby
The State I Am In
I Love My Car
Wrapped Up In Books
The Blues Are Still Blue
Stay Loose
30

Albums
Push Barman to Open Old Wounds
If You’re Feeling Sinister
Dear Catastrophe Waitress
Tigermilk
The Life Pursuit

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 00:26 (one year ago) link

I’ve been thinking about why Lord Anthony stands out for me

I wasn’t bullied too much in high school, although I can remember being imprinted with the shame and fear of it. I also remember looking on and not stepping in as other kids were savagely harassed, and it’s been in the back of my mind since

it’s amazing to me that their music can so easily convey childhood feelings like this song does

Dan S, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 00:57 (one year ago) link

Great poll! I didn't have time to listen to everything to prepare for voting but my main takeaway is I need to listen to FYHC, which I foolishly skipped. Also it's hard to believe that just three weeks ago I had never heard "The State I Am In". Instant classic from the first listen, I probably put it on a dozen times in that time. It's a little strange to rank it over songs I've loved for 15 years but it's just that good

1. Stay Loose
2. The Fox in the Snow
3. The State I Am In
4. Seeing Other People
5. She's Losing It
6. If She Wants Me
7. A Summer Wasting
8. Seymour Stein
9. Like Dylan in the Movies
10. Step Into My Office, Baby
11. Ease Your Feet Into the Sea
12. Get Me Away from Here, I'm Dying
13. The Boy With the Arab Strap
14. If You're Feeling Sinister
15. Piazza, New York Catcher
16. Dear Catastrophe Waitress
17. It Could Have Been a Brilliant Career
18. Enter Sylvia Plath
19. The Stars of Track and Field
20. If You Find Yourself Caught in Love
21. I'm a Cuckoo
22. Belle and Sebastian
23. The Blues are Still Blue
24. Play for Today
25. The Party Line
26. Dress Up in You
27. The Loneliness of a Middle Distance Runner
28. Asleep on a Sun Beam
29. To Be Myself Completely
30. We Are the Sleepyheads

Top Albums
1. If You're Feeling Sinister
2. Dear Catastrophe Waitress
3. Boy From the Arab Strap
4. Tigermilk
5. Girls in Peacetime Want to Dance

Vinnie, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 01:07 (one year ago) link

also Belle & Sebastian wasn’t the first song of theirs I heard but it felt like it explained them somehow, as a central diorama of their world

Dan S, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 01:57 (one year ago) link

1. The Boy With The Arab Strap
2. A Summer Wasting
3. This Is Just A Modern Rock Song
4. Pocketbook Angel
5. Ease Your Feet In The Sea
6. String Bean Jean
7. Slow Graffiti
8. Big John Shaft
9. Lazy Line Painter Jane
10. Beautiful
11. I'm A Cuckoo
12. Simple Things
13. The State That I Am In
14. Get Me Away From Here I'm Dying
15. If You Are Feeling Sinister
16. Electronic Renaissance
17. Like Dylan In The Movies
18. Storytelling
19. Sleep The Clock Around
20. Funny Little Frog (God Help The Girl)
21. She's Losing It
22. Fox In The Snow
23. I Don't Love Anyone
24. The Model
25. Expectations
26. Seeing Other People
27. Dirty Dream Number Two
28. Belle & Sebastian
29. Photo Jenny
30. My Wandering Days Are Over

Albums
1 The Boy With The Arab Strap
2 Tigermilk
3 If You're Feeling Sinister
4 Push Barman To Open Old Wounds
5 Storytelling

Eps
1 This Is Just a Modern Rock Song
2 Lazy Line Painter Jane
3 Dog on Wheels
4 3.. 6.. 9 Seconds of Light
5 Jonathan David

Voted Belle & Sebastian track

I think if Pocketbook Angel wasn't a rough demo it would be looked on as fondly as Photo Jenny.. maybe not String Bean Jean. Those 3 are very similar in a way.

ヽ(_ _ヽ)彡 ᴵ'ᵐ ᵒᵏᵃʸ_(・_.)/ (FlopsyDuck), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 02:25 (one year ago) link

I remember reading an interview with Stuart Murdoch where he said that every song was written by either Belle or by Sebastian, it was up to us to figure out which, that has always stuck with me

Dan S, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 02:34 (one year ago) link

great poll, thanks for the winter wooskie shoutout! :)

Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 02:53 (one year ago) link

I like the pop songs.
The Life Pursuit is my favorite album.
"Funny Little Frog" was my #2.
"Mornington Crescent" is the worst song on TLP.
"Seeing Other People" was my #1 to a large extent because it sounds like Charlie Brown music.

I think what I'm trying to say is, I'm not a proper Belle & Sebastian fan.

01. Seeing Other People
02. Funny Little Frog
03. Dirty Dream Number Two
04. Don't Leave the Light On Baby
05. I'm a Cuckoo
06. Act of the Apostle
07. Lazy Line Painter Jane
08. Another Sunny Day
09. Write About Love
10. Like Dylan in the Movies
11. If She Wants Me
12. This Is Just a Modern Rock Song
13. Wrapped Up in Books
14. The Blues Are Still Blue
15. I Want the World to Stop
16. If You're Feeling Sinister
17. Step Into My Office, Baby
18. You Don't Send Me
19. Sweet Dew Lee
20. The State I Am In (Tigermilk version)
21. Legal Man
22. The Stars of Track and Field
23. Winter Wooksie
24. I'm Waking Up to Us
25. Nobody's Empire
26. The Boy with the Arab Strap
27. To Be Myself Completely
28. Best Friend
29. Expectations
30. Song for Sunshine

Hideous Lump, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 05:40 (one year ago) link

"Seeing Other People" was my #1 to a large extent because it sounds like Charlie Brown music.

Can't deny there's something to this

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 05:43 (one year ago) link

just want to say i enjoyed the warmth exhibited throughout this poll even if this band doesn't do much for me.

macropuente (map), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 06:01 (one year ago) link

Great poll thanks, never seen any of these 'outtake'/alternate-cover images before.

piscesx, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 06:05 (one year ago) link

I only possess a Vince Guaraldi record because a Charlie Brown vibe was also noted on, presumably, the Sinister list back in the day!

Anyone who voted for "Act of the Apostle" and "Song for Sunshine" (I missed the latter when listing the unpopular things on my ballot} may actually be the best kind of B&S fan.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 07:08 (one year ago) link

Great poll! Thanks for running it so wonderfully! :)

1. The State I Am In
2. I'm A Cuckoo
3. Your Cover's Blown
4. It Could Have Been A Brilliant Career
5. Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying
6. Lazy Line Painter Jane
7. If She Wants Me
8. The Boy With The Arab Strap
9. She's Losing It
10. Don't Leave The Light On Baby
11. The Blues Are Still Blue
12. Stay Loose
13. You're Just a Baby
14. The Model
15. Expectations
16. Jonathan David
17. Funny Little Frog (GHTG version)
18. There's Too Much Love
19. Dirty Dream Number Two
20. We Rule The School
21. The Chalet Lines
22. To Be Myself Completely
23. Women's Realm
24. Slow Graffiti
25. Judy and the Dream of Horses
26. A Summer Wasting
27. My Wandering Days Are Over
28. Electronic Renaissance
29. If You're Feeling Sinister
30. Piazza New York Catcher

Your dad's Carlos Boozer and you keep him alive (fionnland), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 08:30 (one year ago) link

This poll really arrived at an ideal time to re-think B&S, at that 20 year point where cultural artifacts take on a new context and rock artists sometime exit their awkward middle career flailing. The 90s records feel closer to Stereolab and even Ghost Box hauntalogy and further from c86 and twee now. Not that the later labels don't apply, but this listening exercise has changed my generalizations about the music.

eva logorrhea (bendy), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 14:08 (one year ago) link

yeah stereolab as a comparison definitely occurred to me when i was going through their discog, though mostly for the self-consciously retro pop songs but with motorik beats thing

ufo, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 14:34 (one year ago) link

I thought of Stereolab when I was trying to place the sound behind Sleep the Clock Around. They share a similar relationship with kitsch, too.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 15:59 (one year ago) link

organ riff at the end of "lazy line painter jane" is extreeeeeeeemely stereolab imo (and also extremely vu ofc)

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 16:00 (one year ago) link

There's something to be said for them following a particular path out of the VU sound - much closer to the Nico/John Cale version than the Lou Reed one, obviously.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 16:02 (one year ago) link

eh i think the third album is a major part of their sound

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 16:07 (one year ago) link

Buh, of course. Brainfart.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 16:10 (one year ago) link

just catching up with the results -- good stuff! one more ballot fwiw (informed by a cursory re-listening that turned often to awe and new appreciation, of course. i love this band's multitudes)

Like Dylan in the Movies
Women's Realm
The Stars of Track and Field
Seeing Other People
Another Sunny Day
A Summer Wasting
Me and the Major
Mayfly
The State I Am In
White Collar Boy
Get Me Away from Here, I'm Dying
She's Losing It
Funny Little Frog
I Didn't See It Coming
The Fox in the Snow
The Rollercoaster Ride
Family Tree
Lazy Line Painter Jane
Wrapped Up in Books
Sleep the Clock Around
Electronic Renaissance
Dog on Wheels
Your Cover's Blown
Come On Sister
We Are the Sleepyheads
Judy is a Dick Slap
Stay Loose
Waiting for the Moon to Rise
You Made Me Forget My Dreams
The Loneliness of a Middle Distance Runner

geoffreyess, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:46 (one year ago) link

I have no idea whether there's any discernable evidence in either case, but from the chatter on fan lists of each, I always imagined B&S must have prompted a spike in sales of Bryter Layter in a fashion not unlike Stereolab doing the same for Neu!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 23:15 (one year ago) link

This was an awesome poll. Cheers.

ALBUMS
1. Dear Catastrophe Waitress
2. If You’re Feeling Sinister
3. Tigermilk
4. Push Barman to Open Old Wounds
5. The Boy with the Arab Strap

EPS
1. Dog on Wheels
2. Lazy Line Painter Jane
3. Books
4. 3... 6... 9... Seconds of Light
5. Legal Man

TRACKS:
1. Me and the Major
2. Dog on Wheels
3. If You’re Feeling Sinister
4. Stay Loose
5. You Don’t Send Me
6. If You Find Yourself Caught in Love
7. She’s Losing It
8. Piazza, New York Catcher
9. Get Me Away from Here, I’m Dying
10. Is It Wicked Not to Care?
11. Sleep the Clock Around
12. Like Dylan in the Movies
13. I’m a Cuckoo
14. It Could Have Been a Brilliant Career
15. Electronic Renaissance
16. You’re Just a Baby
17. Seeing Other People
18. Expectations
19. Judy and the Dream of Horses
20. Legal Man
21. The Boy with the Arab Strap
22. Step Into My Office, Baby
23. Le Pastie de la Bourgeoisie
24. Your Cover’s Blown
25. I Love My Car
26. I Believe in Traveling Light
27. Stars of Track and Field
28. Act of the Apostle
29. The Party Line
30. Asleep on a Sunbeam

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 00:16 (one year ago) link

This poll made me realize a lot of people listen to B&S for reasons different to mine.

I had never really paid Lazy Line Painter Jane. I think it's appalling. Possibly the worst song by this band I've heard? Here's my points score:

40 - Stay Loose
36 - Expectations
33 - Dylan in the Movies
30 - I fought in a war
28 - I’m a cuckoo
26 - Dog on wheels
25 - Another sunny day
24 - Funny little frog
23 - Allie
22 - We were beautiful
21 - White collar boy
20 - Sunday’s pretty icons
19 - I want the world to stop
18 - Your cover’s blown
17 - The party line
16 - The everlasting muse
15 - The stars of track and field
14 - Wrapped up in books
13 - A summer wasting
12 - The fox in the snow
11 - Dirty Dream 2
10 - Play for today
9 - The blues are still blue

paulhw, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 02:08 (one year ago) link

I've never really liked it either

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 03:32 (one year ago) link

I keep coming back to that "The Blues are Still Blue" Lip Dub thingy. Gloriously goofy, and I like the song about 89% more after several viewings. Thanks bendy.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 07:35 (one year ago) link

Mine:

1 Ease Your Feet in the Sea
2 Belle & Sebastian
3 Seeing Other People
4 The Fox in the Snow
5 Slow Graffiti
6 String Bean Jean
7 Don't Leave the Light on Baby
8 Winter Wooskie
9 The Stars of Track and Field
10 A Century of Fakers
11 You Made Me Forget My Dreams
12 Dog on Wheels
13 Legal Man
14 The Model
15 Me and the Major
16 Stay Loose
17 I Know Where the Summer Goes
18 Lazy Line Painter Jane
19 The State I Am In
20 Step Into My Office, Baby
21 Beautiful
22 Simple Things
23 It Could Have Been a Brilliant Career
24 I Fought in a War
25 Photo Jenny
26 Sleep the Clock Around
27 Chickfactor
28 The Rollercoaster Ride
29 Women's Realm
30 Nice Day for a Sulk

the salacious inaudible (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 07:57 (one year ago) link

I keep coming back to that "The Blues are Still Blue" Lip Dub thingy. Gloriously goofy, and I like the song about 89% more after several viewings. Thanks bendy.

― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, December 19, 2018 8:35 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Otm! Gave me a whole new appreciation for the song. What a joyful bunch.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 12:35 (one year ago) link

A schoolyard of teens united in song, singing and dancing clumsily around Seville orange trees could well be a dream image from 90s B&S.

eva logorrhea (bendy), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 12:39 (one year ago) link

it's so cool.

frame casual (dog latin), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 15:24 (one year ago) link

four weeks pass...

I should have put Play for Today *much* higher. What a track.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Friday, 18 January 2019 13:54 (one year ago) link

Indeed.

I had but one Peacetime track on my hastily-assembled ballot. I'm wiser now and have even, finally, procured a physical copy. (Write About Love too, fercrissakes!) I also had a nice image prepared for "Play for Today", so I was doubly sad to see it slip down the rankings in late voting.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 05:51 (one year ago) link

Put it here, You're allowed!

Mark G, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 11:29 (one year ago) link

This poll was responsible for B&S cementing themselves in my favourite top 5 or so bands. Before they were a band I liked generally, loving a few songs and a couple albums. Now their entire catalogue just makes me very, very happy.

Thanks, Nag!

Your dad's Carlos Boozer and you keep him alive (fionnland), Monday, 28 January 2019 13:44 (one year ago) link

Definitely the rare and weird category of favorite band I unabashedly adore and want to listen to all the time, except for when I don't and find them too precious and need to set them aside for several months or even years.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 January 2019 15:12 (one year ago) link

Ha ha, yes. Same.

Alba, Monday, 28 January 2019 15:40 (one year ago) link

Thirded.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 28 January 2019 15:56 (one year ago) link

Fourthed. (I'd practically given up on them before this poll.)

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Monday, 28 January 2019 16:04 (one year ago) link

Yes! I feel this way about the Pixies too.

eva logorrhea (bendy), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 17:34 (one year ago) link

I've only just worked out that the backing vocals at the end of Play for Today are 'author, author'. I've been singing 'up your jumper'.

And it bears repeating: what a fucking great song.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Sunday, 10 February 2019 19:41 (one year ago) link

I though it was something like "up the mountain"

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 10 February 2019 19:45 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

I totally think it is 'up the mountain' but other days I hear 'author author' - both have resonance. Anyway, what a song and would probably be my number one if I were to vote today.

Let's fill the glass and light to share the sun
The backstage of your life.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Saturday, 13 April 2019 21:56 (one year ago) link

The lyrics on the sleeve are "author author" but my ears refuse to hear it as anything but "up the mountain".

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 13 April 2019 23:53 (one year ago) link

eleven months pass...

The backstage of your life.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 10 April 2020 23:28 (five months ago) link


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