Shania Twain's Ramones T-shirt: C/D?

Bitch stole my idea for my first single. Shit. Seriously, that's fantastic, Shania is my new favorite artist ever.

This is who she looks like a fan of, with that cover:
http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drc000/c047/c047981q3s6.jpg

Kim Quiz

(or in other words - what Ally said)

In reality, I see what you're saying - but you know, this isn't the way to say it.

I only got 200 on that quiz. Even more reason I suck tonight.

http://www.chartattack.com/damn/2002/10/0706.cfm

Now I think further research is in order.

is this correct - and if so why?

i am a ramones fan = i wz a ramones fan ever since i wz born?? maybe she only heard the ramones after she left sudbury? if "sudbury taste" is all that defines her, why wd she ever have left it? snooker player steve davies is a top fan of magma, but he doesn't play snooker in a magma-like fashion (sadly)

number one was a really obscure nothern soul floor-filler

number two was something by magma

and number three was.....it's too good, but it's true! 'snooky loopy nuts are we'.

the man is pure class.

Problem is, she's clad in a skin-tight Ramones T-shirt, re-stitched in that ever-popular single-shoulder-strap Jane Of The Jungle style. Shania Twain in a freakin' Ramones shirt!

This is even worse then Britney in a school girl uniform.
I fear for radio in this country next year.

you learn something here every day.

it is thought that this gave added edge to their fierce rivalry on the green baize.

no, it's just less good.

Rumours that Chas & Dave were going to be the support proved unfounded....

in regard to your timmins comment - i have one question - AND STILL THINK THAT AFTER GOING TO HAMILTON FOR THE SWEARING AT MOTORISTS SHOW. I USED TO LIVE IN HAMMER-ROCK (HOME OF THE ROCK). IT IS LIKE BEING STUCK IN A BON JOVI/DAVID LYNCH NIGHTMARE WITH WORSE MUSIC THAN THE DARKNESS! YIKES!

if shania can get some mor freaks into ramones - good, thing, surely.

canada must be the home of the rabid joey ramone fan.

Band T-shirt Etiquette

I never put my hand up for that job. There are a few things that push my buttons and two of them are Bluegrass and 'New Country'.

i miss hamilton. it was more surreal than london!

(may i remark, this was on two seperate occassions)

oh....i'm getting homesick now!

here's hoping she wears a radiohead t-shirt next.

Canada unfortunately seems to have quite a few ramones fans. pity.

If Brian Eno can record an album in Hamilton so could Momus. The eye patch would just be an assumed over eager Ti Cats fan injury.

racebannon in hamilton

Well now that I am without access to a car, no.

true, true, if only we could keep him away from crazy deals (with appropriate backwards z) and buying a sparkly eye patch.

Momus: Why, this eye patch is fantastical, I shall busk my new song, in celebration *singing* 'My eyepatch is a penis...OOOoOOOOooOOOoOO....'

TiCat Fan: Faggot.....*punches Momus in the eye*

Momus: I am Marquis de sade and will come over your town in sweet revenge.

I still like the idea that the t-shirt was ripped up in a bar brawl in hamilton ....

You're a sick man, Sterling.

Dan's comment is far too evil to be allowed to live. I love it that much. :-)

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YOU DIE NOW, NED RAGGETT!!!!!

Its also equally possible that a wardrobe consultant said "Wear this, its cool." I suspect this might be true because of the location these adds appeared in...they were targeted to specific areas (in Toronto atleast) and weren't used (that I've seen) outside of the once punk rock now trendy yet fashionable Queen Street West area of town and at the various subway stops near U of T.

I seriously doubt that its an attempt to win over young Ramones fans, but it could appeal to an older person who stopped following music years ago...the shirt reminding them of their youth, while Shania presenting the 'now'. Its the kinda of thing that could sucker 35-40 year olds who stopped buying albums years ago into re-entering the music buying market. "Shania likes the Ramones? So did I when I was young...maybe I'll give her another listen." Let's face it, atleast 50% (minimum!) of her audience is made up of people who never would have considered buying a country album before she came out.

Wow, I've put way too much thought and effort into Shania and her shirt.

I'LL HAVE YOUR HEAD FOR THIS, JOhn DARLELLE

Why thank you :o) I kinda dove right in and haven't introduced myself yet....I think there's a thread for that!

People wear clothes to express themselves and send messages and maybe surprise people shockah!

I think my basic gripe here (and my position has been softened quite a bit since my initial reaction and post, because someone pointed out to me that Shania wearing a punk band's t-shirt pissing me off basically = punk, because punk is supposed to piss people off, right?) is that there's a real disconnection between Shania Twain and the Ramones, and that yes, it does seem hyper-calculated. That AC/DC shirt above I can definitely see with her small-town background (oh and the fact that her husband produced the album in question on the shirt). I have no problem with Shania liking things other than her own genre, but there's still something about this that smacks of image consultant or desperate cred-grabbing.

*though there is a lot more interesting stuff to say about her than this - putting out 3 versions of the same album is both amazingly cynical and artistically significant in terms of a big mainstream artist demolishing the idea of the 'original version'.

I think there are bigger questions about the culture of celebrity being raised with Shania and her Ramones T-shirt though -- a person who likes Shania might well enjoy the Ramones (or the Subhumans, which would have been a much savvier choice of T-shirt I must say) but in the rarefied air of unimaginable wealth like that enjoyed by Shania, doesn't it seem like the ability to process the data of the outside world gets compromised, or the nature of how it's done changes considerably? What I mean is: sure, Celine Dion could like any kind of music...but isn't it kind of difficult to imagine her listening to any kind of music at all?

I think probably the wealthier you are the bigger the chances of your enjoying *everything*, not nothing - whether you enjoy it in the same way or in more of a 'diverting novelty' sense I don't know, not being incredibly wealthy.

The photographer is trying to convey sleaziness - that nice Shania also has a dirrty side. It's not a very good picture so I wouldn't say it worked.

(Also in any marketing exercise designed to appeal to/create a demographic, answering a strong "no" is as useful to Them and Their profiling as answering a strong "yes".)

if one believes that ppl hearing heard the ramones would — for example — immediately begin to question their allegience to shania, then why complain when she gives the ramones a free endorsement? why is it so awful that outsiders and newbies find out about the ramones?

And the Ramones legacy is at least as much about fashion as it is about music, anyway--hasn't that been kind of obvious for a long time now?

same w/ Shania's shirt, it doesn't say like RAMONES on it, you'd only recognise it as a Ramones shirt if you were already familiar with the logo.

also, one-shouldered tight punk-band shirt = rhinestoned metal shirt etc., which particular band is being referenced really doesn't matter. I'd be more likely to believe Shania really liked the Ramones if she were to wear just an ordinary (not chopped-up) t-shirt of them. Okay yeah chopping up yr garments is "punk" but you know wot I mean.

I can't get up much righteous ire at the idea of her wearing it when the emo/punk kids at my high school are wearing it too. You can either say "It's fashion and you're only into punk because all of your friends are," or "how neat that you and your friends found out about this interesting music you'd never heard before." I can't see any of them going "oh maybe Shania's not so bad, I should try listening to her," though, they'd just all yell "POSER, I HATE HER!" so it can't be a very good promotional strategy.

well, I meant recognizably from a distance! :p Anyway, this Atomic Kitten thing disturbs me way more for some reason (dammit, why should I even give a shit about what people's shirts say??) There's some sort of unwritten (oh it's prob. been written by now on the band t-shirt etiquette thread) thing about wearing your band shirt sincerely vs. ironically, which is somehow being violated here and driving me insane ARGH

Worrying that Shania's Ramones shirt "demeans" punk concedes that Shania is stronger than the Ramones.

Which I actually think she is, but then I don't particularly mind. Remember Joey (?) supported Reagan but Shania won the "world's sexiest vegetarian award" one year (i shit you not).

She's giving a metaphorical finger to those who despise her work, and the righteous ire shown by those who find her appropriation of these images is just more fire in her belly. As they used to say, if you wan't to defeat your enemy sing their song.

..and don't talk about fire in Shania's belly so early in the morning... I have to scroll up to take a look at it.

well if its just a couple of pics this theory won't work will it.

is anyone going to find out in how many pics is shania wearing a ramones t-shirt?

whereas if she wears it on several pics then maybe ppl will find out I'm sure.

In fact I predict that within the next twenty-four months major American retail chains such as the Gap and Old Navy will be selling distressed t-shirts featuring faux-vintage rock art (but either no band specified or one made up); probably sooner, as you can already buy the standard Ramones or CBGBs t-shirts at Urban Outfitters.

.. I can't wait for this, if the band names are indeed made up. "Happy Rock Fire Bang"

there's nothing intrinsically ridiculous about shania growing to like the music of the ramones, even a lot, for exactly the reason you give custos

Yes -- the passion of people unaware of options of SUPERIOR quality.

"trying to apply your tiresome cock-rock standards as a universal norm is just dumb."

Hey Tom -- UP YOURS! By this point, you should know my tastes run well beyond 'tiresome cock-rock'. That was wholly unecessary.

Right?

... except for vocals.

Plus that "Getcha Good" song is pretty spiffy.

No, there is no secret catch. The Ramones and AC/DC shirts (whether they were Shania's doing, or -- in all likelihood -- some stylist's) are just crass tools to juxtapose the country-pop diva with genres she has really has nothing to do with (any argument there?) for the sake of fresh take beyond: "here's Shania in a tank top" or "here's Shania in a leopard skin jumpsuit" or "here's Shania with a cowboy hat on." It's just that the appropriation is offensive to we that take the iconography she's adopted a bit more serioulsy (then we arguably should). No apologies here either!

Your fiancee's tastes are your own problem, Tom.

Oh come on Alex, THAT is fucked. I didn't see Tom saying anything about what your significant other thinks of your taste.

Her husband's tastes are her own problem, Ned. (And ours).

I'm not offended at all by that - but the fact is Alex claimed that if Shania fans were exposed to superior options they wouldn't be as passionate about Shania. Now I happen to know a Shania fan very well and offered to test this claim: why Alex would turn down such a challenge I have no idea!

Try "His".

"Now I happen to know a Shania fan very well and offered to test this claim: why Alex would turn down such a challenge I have no idea!"

Because it's a stupid, pointless challenge. For a start, I shouldn't *NEED* to make a tape for your fiancee, as after reading my posts here for the last year and change (and being that you seem to be convinced that I listen exclusively to what you so charmingly characterize as 'tiresome cock-rock,') you should be able to save me the trouble and dowload the stuff for her yourself. Moreover, I don't *CARE* if your fiancee chooses to sully her aural cavities with the soulless warblings of Shania Twain. They're her ears -- she's perfectly within her rights to do so. Just pardon me if I think your wife-to-be is rather undemanding when it comes to music.

Memo to ILX: after 2 years trying we have found a counter-weapon to 'mindless pabulum' - use at all times!

Wrong. Shania's sporting of Ramones shirts will assuredly *NOT* prompt any Shania fans to rush out and buy up the Ramones' back catalog. It's merely a shallow fashion statement. The Ramones don't stand to make one thin dime from her sporting of the shirt.

"What interests me is that if Shania wore a Killing Joke shirt and loads of pop-country fans went out and bought the entire Killing Joke back-catalog Alex would complain, wouldn't he?"

I wouldn't complain, but it wouldn't happen, would it? The shirt isn't functioning in this context as a marketing tool, but merely as a artefact to lend its wearer a modicum of perceived coolness that would otherwise seem completely illogical.

Goddammit. I fucked that one up didn't I. In my rage, I misread that statement. Fuck, I hate that.

Well, of course Alex is wrong about that. The whole "classical"/"other" schism should render that entire line of thinking moot. All I'm saying is that expecting someone to seriously back up a hyperbolic statement is an exercise in futility (unless it's me going for a laugh).

Shania wearing a Ramones T-Shirt
or
Billy Idol wearing a Billy Ray Cyrus T-shirt?

C'mon, Tom, you prefer this?

Rod Stewart singing "Do You Think I'm Sexy?"
or
Iggy Pop singing "Do You Think I'm Sexy?"

I stand in the Shania's Ramones Shirt is Horseshit camp simply because I suspect that Shania doesn't care a whit about the Ramones either way, and something about that rubs me the wrong way. This doesn't make Tom's (or Mark S's) position -- that nobody gets hurt, and in fact the Ramones stand only to benefit, so why get all lathered up about it -- hath to it some pith, though it does seem a point that gets overstated quite a lot, presumably for rhetorical purposes. Tom's right to say that of course Shania might actually dig the Ramones, but doens't it seem more likely that her handlers chose the shirt in question? Or that the photographer did? Naturally Shania might like the ramones, but given what we know about the workings of high celebrity, do we honestly suspect that she does -- or does the question only get raised to score points? What I feel, and I'm guessing Alex feels as well, is that the whole enterprise of having a photographer pick out one's clothing is kinda icky, & that said enterprise is somehow symptomatic of a greater social ill...

...which would be some alleged crisis of authenticity or something, and since my longstanding position has been that there was no "turning point" at which the world abandoned authenticity and began pursuing its recent course but rather that things have always been more or less as they are now & only the tools have changed, this leaves me with few legs left to stand on. I just don't think that it's constructive to caricature the other side of the debate, and think it'd be useful if we began by conceding that there's something to each side. And if we then all agreed to just agree with whatever unstable position I happen to have randomly landed on, since I am so wise ;)

Rod Stewart surely defines tiresome cock rock but I love him too.

(The 'conversion fallacy' deserves its own thread which I will start when I work out how to phrase it)

This doesn't make Tom's (or Mark S's) position -- that nobody gets hurt, and in fact the Ramones stand only to benefit, so why get all lathered up about it -- hath to it some pith,

to this:

This doesn't make Tom's (or Mark S's) position -- that nobody gets hurt, and in fact the Ramones stand only to benefit, so why get all lathered up about it -- any less valid, and I think said position hath to it some pitch etc.

"Based on her press, she's has nothing but contempt for her audience and positively LOATHES being a "public person.""

Cf. "Based on Kurt Cobain's press he has nothing but contempt for his audience and positively LOATHES being a "public person""

-thetics? -thenics? I haff never known for sure

I think we can assume he thought it was the brand name.

Hey, I'm still your hero too, right Dan? *tear in eye, lip quivering*

(see, I'm agreeing with Alex in NYC pretty much! Except he dislikes this and I don't.)

(Alex there is a 'bollywood' version - the International version - judging by the first single it is ace and the others are rotten.)

This is a beautiful explanation of what you mean & bodes much further thought by me: offhand I'd say that the tension here is between an essentially rational impulse (yours) and an essentially religious impulse (mine, Alex's though I'm guessing he would/will resent that)

v. v. interesting indeed

You are the wind beneath my wings.

Is Tom's position rational (in the sense you describe it?)? Wouldn't it be more accurate to say iconoclastic vs. iconophilic?

The opposing position is certainly religious since it relies on gigantic Logos ideas of immutable Signifigance etc -- since I am religious & like religious thought (& think it's religious styles of thought that tend to produce singers of good songs & authors of good books) I tend to feel more sympathy with what I feel is essentially the less rational position

Surely the answer is yes. If you accept it's true that the Ramones will benefit from the exposure (by gaining Shania Twain fan's) then it's equally likely that their cultural stock amongst their diehard fans will be debased.

Since one of their main selling points is an anti-establishment, irresponsible, rebel pose, if it can be easily assimilated by a 'safe, corporate, family' act then what value does it have? Or does it mean that the features of that brand been assimilated into the mainstream and they've triumphed in the end?

In branding terms, like I said on the coke thread about the Clash and Crass, the universal solvent in branding is 'cool' (actualy 'classy' is another one, which is why politicians say they're reading Tolsoy on the beach - the high-cult equiv of this T-Shirt trick) - it's something every brand wants to be. So if you've built a big part of your branding on 'cool' like the Ramones (or the VU or Clash etc etc) have then you are very vulnerable to having your branding appropriated, and in the process all the other parts of your brand (rebellion, stoopidity, jokes) get ignored.

My point is that this process is always risky for the absorbing brand because the ignored components have still been borroed. But the basic message is that if you don't want your heroes to be sold out, don't pick cool heroes.

Last year, I was at a bar in Chicago that "Black" Jack McDowell's shitty band was playing. For those of you who don't know Jack, well he was once a great major league pitcher who, upon retiring, started a pretty crummy rock band. Anyway, I wasn't gonna watch his band, was out front in the "bar" portion of the club (as opposed to the "stage" portion), and McDowell walks by in a sequin-studded Ramones t-shirt. Y'know, like the kind they'd sell at Bloomingdale's if, indeed, they sold Ramones t-shirt. It looked ridiculous.

Okay, well, just never mind.

You'd be correct.

As for Shania Twain fan's being open to conversion. I suspect the numbers who will now investigate the Ramones will be miniscule, and they will be the diehard fans who would hang on her very word. Just have to get her in a Merzbow t-shirt next time.

Sums it up for me, Nabisco!

"This is a perfectly legitimate stance so far as I can tell,"

Glad we agree.

"...but it unfortunately requires such a paranoid vigilant monitoring of who might possibly actually enjoy what that I'm not sure it's worth it."

I wouldn't consider guessing that Shania's *NOT* a Ramones fan a "paranoid vigilant monitoring", but rather a logical assumption based on a wealth of evidence.

They've *BECOME* fashion items, you mean.

Well, yeah...true, but there's a difference between fashion and Fashion (notice the capital letter).

Meaning: there's a difference between things people happen to wear and things that you're likely to spot people like Naomi Campbell and, well, Shania Twain in.

It seems to me that the problem then isn't that Shania is wearing a Ramones shirt, it's that the "outsider" signifiers don't signify the outside anymore (which, if you'd looked at a television or magazine at any time during the 90s, shouldn't be that big a shock to you).

"This is classical music for future generations. People will be listening to [the Ramones] in 100 years time and talking about it in the same breath as Beethoven."

Ironically, I'm not fussed about Shania wearing the Ramones t-shirt, because, well, the Ramones were just as much a knowing confection of poses and assumed attitudes as any band there's ever been! You can't have your cake and eat it!

On the other hand, I DO get kind of annoyed at the kind of post-Harmony Korine fashonista appropriation of eg metal t-shirts, mullets, monsta truks etc as some emblem of how, like, suburban white trash culture is just, like, the most *authentic* and *persistent* and *kinda charming* voice in the whole sanitized and tastefully niche-marketed datasphere. And I guess the difference is that this attitude strikes me as condescending, whereas, if anything, Shania - or her stylist - is honoring and valorising the Ramones by trying to be associated with them.

As for that quote, conjecture is not proof. "Serious" musicians and "serious" music lovers know, appreciate and respect Beethoven, NOT The Ramones. In fact, to "serious" music lovers, The Ramones are no-talent hacks who played the same simple song over and over ad nauseum.

Alex I think your "wealth of evidence" is exactly the kind of overwrought monitoring I'm talking about: first off, the fact that you see enjoyment of the Ramones and making Shania Twain's music as incompatible doesn't necessarily make it so (any more than her husband's early career is so incompatible with his current one). Second if you're so down on Shania Twain it saddens me that you'd have to go around collecting a "wealth of evidence" about her just to decide whether her shirt's worth criticizing -- I suppose what I'm saying here is that none of us should be wasting our time prying inside people's heads and lives to pass judgment on whether they are or are not "qualified" or "allowed" to wear a given shirt, and no matter how sure you are in this Shania case you're setting yourself up to conduct the same inquisition with everyone, everywhere, to the point of ridiculousness.

Don't be sad, Nabisco. Given her overexposure, the wealth would collect itself without much effort.

aka "If you think the Ramones are cheapened coz Shania wears them, then they were never yours to begin with.

Nabisco: "In other words, the horror is "well before I could assume that anyone wearing a Ramones shirt was at least pretending to be punk!" So I say it's a legitimate complaint insofar as, well, yes, the shirt-based "vocabulary" of such people does in fact suddenly have less of the meaning they want it to, and I suppose they have every right to bitch about that."

aka "Actually if you think Shania can cheapen The Ramones then they're ALL YOURS."

taking sides!

I = drunk on a wednesday

blah blah blah

It's rather incongruous seeing the Ramones in that context - far more jarring than the placing of da bruddas' logo on La Twain's body, when such devices are seen any day on fashion catwalks.

Dude, don't worry. Just one more of those beers and I probably would have posted "Sean = sexy ass" instead.

Me and a friend discussed my ass in depth tonight. Apparently my clean living has given me back my booty! It's very exciting. Also, the donut I ate today might've helped. I hadn't eaten a donut in like 2 years. BAVARIAN CREME IS DELICIOUS!

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Alex, who loves you baby, but dave225, nabisco, mark s and Tom are on the money. The more you all complain about this, the more the Ramones t-shirt is doing what it's supposed to be doing, which is to get you talking about Shania. This just in: music is a business.

"Ramones" is just a logo. More proof that Baudrillard was right when he postulated that in the future the strength of a signifier, rather than its qualitative meaning, will ultimately be the value that people seek in using them.

At "least" she's not selling Ramones T-shirts like at the boring rock-chick-by-the-numbers fashion in the Anna Sui boutique.

Would anyone like to talk about the album? I like "Up!" and "In My Car (I'll be the Driver). They sound like gasoline commericals written by Def Leppard. The blue disc isn't all that.

Oh no! The NYCILXCHIXoRs listened to the ILX comp, "No More Heroes" AND "Up!" yesterday when we were driving around Upstate NY. Oh No! (Well, I made them listen to Up! but it was my Strangelers comp, too!

Maybe to you.

"At 'least' she's not selling Ramones T-shirts like at the boring rock-chick-by-the-numbers fashion in the Anna Sui boutique."

Anna Sui herself is, at least, a fan of the band/scene/genre.

Alex, that's fine that as far as the T-shirt goes it's just a logo to me but the word "The Ramones" obviously means more than that, including a band that I have seen and records that I own.

Even assuming you know for a fact that one is a fan and the other is not, are you saying Anna Sui can sell $70 Ramones T-shirts and Shania Twain can't wear one? It's the exact same shirt -- what is the difference in effect? I mean, isn't it a good test -- would true Ramones fans be fooled? Where exactly are the boundaries of the band/scene/genre set such that that you can say a particular fashion designer is a fan and a particular pop singer isn't?

I'm not disagreeing with your position, just trying to understand it. I would expect you to be equally upset with Anna Sui for trading off Ramones logos but now I'm confused. I ahave always been curious about these what-is-okay-to-wear threads, I mean, wouldn't it be strange if I continually harped on the designer clothes a lot of musicians wear -- I mean, Mayn*rd K*enan in his Prada shoes, who does he think he is, Eurotrash? J.J. Burnel in a stripey boatneck -- what, is he a merchant sailor?

What is the difference between a fashionista and a rockist? What does a fashionista do, if not dictate what to wear?

For this and other crimes, yes, although maybe I'd just zap her with an ink-filled water pistol or something.

"Are you saying that musical knowledge really has nothing to do with it, it's "fashion" at all that bothers you?"

I resent "fashion" that implies musical knowledge being sported by someone who doesn't take the iconography seriously.

:)

I am so confused, how will I know the difference between an evil poseur and a person who just doesn't care? Do I set them on fire?

Thank you, your honor. The defense rests :)

I was gonna reference Alex and his goon squad coming to town *beep! beep!* But Ned stole my fire.

Like Cher at the Oscars circa 1987. But, you know, without taste.

How dull that is, though.

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There would be no Big Black without Killing Joke. Albini owes his fucking career to them.

DUD!

…already….

But, will wonders never cease, it's already starting to be funny to me again.

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This reminds me of seeing one of the members of Metallica (Jamez, I think) sporting an SNFU t-shirt on the back of one of their earlier releases. At the time I thought it was really cool that the band would give that kind of exposure to a small Canadian band that really could use that kind of exposure. On the other hand, I wonder what the end result was for SNFU: did they actually get any noticeable attention from that photo? And if they did, was it helpful? (in other words, did they get new fans that actually appreciated what they were doing, or was it just a bunch of metal meatheads that didn't really have any real affinity with SNFU in the first place?)

I still like the gasoline commercial, I mean, "In My Car (I'll Be the Driver)."

Yeah yeah yeah.

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god naomi watts is so hot in that photo

I can't see there being too many punk fans back in the day in Sudbury.
-- Mr Noodles

Maybe a coupla years too late to answer this (I ain't read the whole thread yet!), but my step-cousins were surely among the first punk fans in Garson - a "suburb" of Sudbury for those unaware. And it's just because I happened to be visiting them at the time that I was able to hear Never Mind The Bollocks the very day it arrived in Sudbury shops, December 31, 1977. Sounded OK to me, but I was more impressed by Rocket To Russia.

a member of the band 5 Seconds Of Summer wore a Misfits shirt on the Billboard Music Awards tonight, so be prepared for a few days of this kind of bitching and moaning again

rorschach's journal - may 8th, 2014: counter clerk at rick's mkt off rt 2 wearing a misfits t shirt w/ her marlboro visor. snorted derisively & took my patronage elsewhere.

lol

hahaha