PHOEBE BRIDGERS - what's the deal?

my brother just told me about her. many comparisons to elliott smith, i don't hear it in the guitar playing but definitely the vocals, especially the phrasing, the way they're double/triple tracked, lyrically too. this song is really great, production is fantastic, particularly the sound effects.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM1t8H_PE78

on first listen, i was like "whatevs" but then i returned, liked it more, and kept returning.

i think she's good, but that song "motion sickness" is an instant classic, man.

motion sickness is a gem yeah

just listened to Motion Sickness 20 times in a row lol

oh my god... motion sickness...

lol otm

Same as Alpine, keep returning to this. It's eclipsed the long awaited Julien Baker album for me.

i immediately connected with this on the strength of the songwriting and now i'm discovering all the lovely details in the production too. completely agree with all the love for motion sickness

her version of you missed my heart is better than kozelek's original too

I think she is good ... almost in a way that I am suspicious of ... because I like it too much or too easily? (I think this is what people feel about ALVVAYS.)

Actually, more specifically, I slightly distrust the songwriting I have heard: ticking too many generic attitude boxes. Yet what she does, she does very well, I know. And maybe other songs I have not heard would give me a different view.

She sounds a bit uncannily like Kathleen Edwards - whom I have long admired a lot.

funny that you mention Edwards because to me it's the new Waxahatchee that sounds just like her.

Anna Tivel has some Kathleen Edwards in her, too. maybe she is a bigger influence on young songwriters than anyone realized. (which would be a good thing.)

Edwards is terrific! (In her own generic way, familiar yet with intelligent and crafted twists.)

I heard a bit of this on the NYT Popcast (a bit from Funeral) when they were doing their end of year thing and was really struck by it by but didn't go back to it until I heard her name come up today. It's not subtle or oblique enough for the Elliott Smith comparisons but there's definitely a huge gut punch factor in it, and the ambient/production touches going on are so great.

only elliott smith thing that stuck out like a sore thumb was the second line in 'scott street': "open heart, open container." the song doesn't sound that much like 'st. ides heaven,' but the instrumentation + the melodic sensibility really highlights it. other than that I don't hear it.

heard "motion sickness" for the first time recently and it really struck me. that first verse is just one of those verses, enough odd little details and turns of phrase to catch me off guard a bit. her vocals are lovely and the touches in the production especially as it swells just so toward the end are really haunting and great.

haven't spent much time with the album yet but i enjoyed it and am looking forward to living with it a bit.

it's so fuckin' good, man

one thing about Motion Sickness ... album version is one of the songs of 2017 for me ... but if you go looking for some of the sessions she has played (like Paste, Tiny Desk ... something else, can't remember) she plays it a little slower, and she tends to slow it down even more on the bridge, and then she emphasizes the slight rhythmic and melodic change in the "I have emotional motion" line after the bridge ... and it's awesome.

well, here's the TIny Desk version, which has piano and vocal harmony with it, unlike, say, the Paste one:

https://youtu.be/-hLJNZSIwP8?t=3m34s

gives me chills, man

oh my god

https://youtu.be/H37WARFESUE

oh my god... motion sickness...

― flappy bird, Wednesday, December 6, 2017 1:48 AM (one month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

pretty much here now.

everyone who hears it gets there eventually.

Weirdly disappointed to learn that the boyfriend who shells out for expensive hypnotherapy, sings in an English accent and was in a band when PB was born is (supposedly) Ryan Adams.

Motion sickness, damn

i saw her live recently. it was a really good show!

i heard "smoke signals" on the radio and it was v good, gave some julien baker vibes. other songs havent really clicked for me immediately

mordy and i both have this as one of our top albums of the year, if not the album of the year

just wanted to give it some more publicity before people vote on their year end things

this album, or boygenius?

alright i am hearing reports that this came out last year

lol

i learned about it this year at the same time as boygenius. the boygenius one is a favorite of mine as well.

Treeship what do you think of the new Girlpool

this was one of the best albums of last year, glad that she's getting more exposure from all the boygenius excitement

agreed ^

moreso than I did a year ago, I think Stranger In The Alps is a legit long-haul classic

and by that i just mean it still sounds so good and feels like it's getting better, even after what must be, idk, 60+ listens?

I also missed out on this last year and probably would've put it at the top of my list this year if I could. Love boygenius and their whole coming together but this album is.. some album.

i only heard it right at the end of last year when going through my backlog for eoy season but it instantly went to near the top of my list, an immediate classic to me. so many delightful moments - the "falling" bass on "smoke signals", the way the bridge goes into the final chorus on "motion sickness", that synth choir line near the end of "scott street", when the guitar comes in a minute into "georgia"

thinking about it now it's fairly similar in feeling to this year's kacey musgraves album - singer-songwriter with gorgeous arrangements and lots of beautiful ambience filling up the space

just to clarify what i was saying: i loved it a year ago, too. put it in the second half of my top 10, i believe.

but you know how a year or two or five later, some of the records in your top 10 kinda fade away and you don't reach for them as much, while a few come into focus as the ones you keep returning to? Alps is one of those for me, at least right now.

so is last year's Manchester Orchestra album.

I like Phoebe Bridgers a lot and really hate the Julien Baker I've heard which makes the Boygenius album effectively useless for me.

Hating Julien Baker seems.. cruel. But there are several Boygenius tracks that don't sound like Baker tracks.

Funeral kills me every time. It never doesn't make me tear up a little.

Yeah. She is just remarkably talented as a songwriter.

I like Phoebe Bridgers a lot and really hate the Julien Baker I've heard which makes the Boygenius album effectively useless for me.

― Matt DC, Tuesday, December 4, 2018 3:27 AM (ten hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

phoebe's presence in the boygenius stuff is wayyy heavier than julien's imo, outside of "stay down" there isn't really a typical julien baker moment on the ep

imo "motion sickness" is a perfect song, rest of stranger in the alps is pretty good

I also missed out on this last year and probably would've put it at the top of my list this year if I could. Love boygenius and their whole coming together but this album is.. some album.

year of impact rule means i get to vote for this

https://pitchfork.com/news/phoebe-bridgers-covers-the-cures-friday-im-in-love-listen/

Weirdly disappointed to learn that the boyfriend who shells out for expensive hypnotherapy, sings in an English accent and was in a band when PB was born is (supposedly) Ryan Adams.

― in twelve parts (lamonti), Tuesday, March 6, 2018 2:04 AM (ten months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I just heard this song for the first time and I fucking hate the shit out of Ryan Adams, this is just amazing songwriting....

some of these lines are ice cold, damn love it:

And why do you sing with an English accent
I guess it's too late to change it now

You said when you met me you were bored
And you, you were in a band when I was born

this is my album of the year even tho it came out in 2017 and consequently i will not be voting for it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Ryan is great, but yes, that last line in particular is an all-time great dig xp

knowing that song is about ryan adams makes it 1) funnier, then 2) more upsetting

album is much better than i gave it credit for upthread but i've also been depressed

it also keeps getting better, imo

the album is good but not necessarily good for you

Her voice really does carry this weight of sadness. Incredible singer and songwriter.

why date Ryan Adams in the first place? I've liked his music off and on for 20+ years but at no point during that time did he ever seem like the kind of person you'd want to spend any time around.

Idk she is young. I dated worse people than that.

this is my album of the year even tho it came out in 2017 and consequently i will not be voting for it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

― Mordy, Friday, January 11, 2019 1:15 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Believe I was the only voter for "Funeral" last year in the songs poll. It was my #1. Still hits me like a ton of bricks every time.

why date Ryan Adams in the first place?

idk, why would ryan adams date someone twenty years younger than him

Ryan Adams being that kind of skeeve shouldn't be surprising... but it is.

haha yeah no it's not

gfvmic

co-sign the excellence of "Motion Sickness." a 2017 song that i kept randomly returning to in 2018.

the first two lines of Scott street have been stuck in my head all fucking day

That song is so good

similarly this is a 2018 album for me albeit i did listen to it after they played a clip of funeral on the popcast and immediately thought it was stunning

a popcast year in review thing i mean

seems like she has some sort of collaborative project with conor oberst on the way, "Better Oblivion Community Centre"

And why do you sing with an English accent
I guess it's too late to change it now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAFZnvTfFAs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAFZnvTfFAs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAFZnvTfFAs

and the collaborative album with conor oberst is out now!

https://open.spotify.com/album/5622zSt4RLqNSPShdqmWpj

what!!

i'm halfway through and it's sounding very good, also there's a synthpop song?

Huh! Eagerly awaiting more solo material but since this just appeared it's a bonus

Oh man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VzWK08EmMk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DSO-w_AxgQ

phomplaberst is not my thing

it's a pretty fun record so far! only the opening track has really struck that quintessential phoebe bridgers note of emotional desolation though

“Service Road” on the Better Oblivion record, the one about Oberst’s brother’s death, is haunting and amazing. Bridgers’ backup vocals are great.

was planning on ignoring this cause i've been out on oberst for a while and bridgers' 2017 album didn't stick with me, but wow is "dylan thomas" a good song.

this is my favorite oberst related project for a while

Whole album's a treat tbh

"Dylan Thomas" and "Service Road" I hope show up in next year's track list.

So is the title Stranger In The Alps a reference to The Big Lebowski?

it has to be, right?

One would assume so, yes

Yeah, it has to be.

About 6 months ago, Mark Wheat, a DJ on our local public indie station (89.3 - "The Current") played Phoebe's "Stranger in the Alps" track "Motion Sickness" immediately before Kenny Rogers & The First Edition's "Just Dropped In", then simply followed it with another song, adding no context or reference. It was one of those rad "I see what you did there!" moments that remind me of just why I care so much about this whole music whathaveyou. The station seems to love rewarding fellow music nerds, as another Current DJ, Mary Lucia, plays Hüsker Dü tracks primarily from the era of their (actual or kayfabe-laden?) rivalry with the Replacements (Paul Westerberg happens to be her brother).

Sorry, I'm dense ... what did they do there?

"big lebowski" references

sorry/thx, i knew Stranger in the Alps but not Just Dropped In. (seen Lebowski once long ago and hated it.)

i think motion sickness might be a "great" song, not just a good one. i was a bit disappointed to learn it was about ryan adams--i didn't want the narrative to be so specific--but even with that, it doesn't lose any of its impact.

it's better than great. it's brilliant, a bona fide classic, an all-timer...

"Dylan Thomas" and "Service Road" I hope show up in next year's track list.

― a Stalin Stale Ale for me, please (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, February 19, 2019 12:01 AM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm, just hit replay on "Dylan Thomas." I like this album.

I'm coming around on some songs. It still really annoys me when Conor's voice comes in on the first track. The lyric is one person's story, and it doesn't really make sense for this other voice to come in with octave unison. Phoebe's double tracked voice and the guitars would have been stronger for the song. I like Conor's voice as a lead, but it's not really capable of serving another role.

really

feel like I made a deal w/ satan to make my copy of Raising Sand much cooler, but he took all of the harmonies away as payment.

'Service Road' sure is good, though

no i agree there's too much oberst on this album

So is the title Stranger In The Alps a reference to The Big Lebowski?

― Only a Factory URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, February 18, 2019 8:17 PM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it has to be, right?

― we're far from the challops now (voodoo chili), Monday, February 18, 2019 10:49 PM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

One would assume so, yes

― Only a Factory URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, February 19, 2019 4:47 AM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, she's confirmed this in interviews.

her ep of the Song Exploder podcast is pretty cool

"Dylan Thomas" is my favorite song today; Most likely for the rest of the week.

i thought there was a boygenius thread ... no?

i don't know why i posted that. i know how to search.

so ... uh ...

Phoebe is great!

sorry all.

this version is killer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KgK0_a574s

I checked out her solo LP after all the hubbub. It totally lives up to the hype. Fabulous atmosphere, impressive depth, looking forward to her next one. The Boygenius EP is great as well. The album with Conor Oberst, not so much.

I'm just not as enthused by the collaborative stuff as I am by her solo album. Have a side-projectiness to them that I find off putting.

man, Me & My Dog is an all-time jam

yeah i watch this version quite often
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T5zc36sAIE

yeah. PB hitting that big note at the end is ... good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u8rIx65QgA

so good. who's doing the deep background harmonies?

damn this is excellent. at the very least keeps up her streak of one very great song per album.

boooo voodoo

hey, this is a good sign that the new album could be the one with multiple very great songs.

haha, great opening shot

so good. who's doing the deep background harmonies?

from here: https://www.stereogum.com/2074637/phoebe-bridgers-garden-song/video

I was just thinking about my hometown, and I was thinking about reoccurring nightmares I have on tour. So on “Garden Song,” my tour manager sings with me. He’s 6-foot-7. He’s a Dutch man named Jeroen. I realized he had the voice of an angel when he was singing Mitski with me in the van and he was two octaves below me, and I was like, “You sound like a Dutch Matt Berninger from the National.”

oh cool, thanks!

Great song!

Cant wait to listen to this when i get home

one great song per album, gtfoh

album length great songs per album

love the video too, very pumped

yah i love every song on Stranger at this point.

This sounds better with each listen. I’m sleep deprived and on a train at the moment so that sound of looping backwards guitars (?) is blending with everything around me and it’s beautiful.

Excellent new song, love the spooky double-tracked vocal vibe she's working with. No info on the sophomore lp?

“I’m sleep deprived and on a train” almost sounds like a lyric she would write

Phoebe Bridgers’ new album ‘Punisher’ is out June 19th!

💀https://t.co/AgIKKhoo4z pic.twitter.com/ZseaBfF6xQ

— Dead Oceans (@DeadOceans) April 9, 2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw0zYd0eIlk

Horns, nice! Quite looking forward to this!

Love this tune.

digging this. the arrangement reminds me of a beulah song, or something in that vein.

So nice!

this is good

Yes

she's gonna have a big year

Phoebe is the best. Cannot wait for this whole album.

Kyoto reminds me a lot of Hello Saferide. It’s good.

wow, haven't thought of hello saferide in a while!

This is cute.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROwoUgKf4lU

the toy mic, the Head&Shoulders shampoo, the pjs - everything about that is adorable.

That rules!

impeccable

I love 100 gecs https://t.co/X9rcDp4Lin

— traitor joe (@phoebe_bridgers) April 30, 2020

lol

the rare perfect tweet

Idgi

Is she singing backing vocals on this here? Blake Mills

No, apparently not. But she is a fan and has had him play on her album.

Blake's new album also sounding intersting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Yl_T4O7-d8

I have been super remiss in not listening to her sooner

https://www.nme.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/19c8d4ca-d020-4a00-ad95-80dd3e29951c.jpg

that should be

https://www.nme.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/19c8d4ca-d020-4a00-ad95-80dd3e29951c.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDGWhJmnack

Oh that’s beautiful

World Tour just announced! I'm gonna try and get to some of these dates.

And be sure to catch the “Phoebe Bridgers’ World,Tour”!

Starts on May 26 with a livestream performance from her kitchen and runs until June 6 with a show from her bed. 🥳

I'm going to EVERY SINGLE DATE!!!😎 pic.twitter.com/DipsatjfzC

— Dead Oceans (@DeadOceans) May 19, 2020

Something about her voice gets me every time.

Kyoto is one of my favorite songs ever recorded, i believe

I don't know how but I'm taller
It must be something in the water

Kyoto is one of my favorite songs ever recorded, i believe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvDO8v0GdFE

This thread title always makes me think of some 80s Seinfeld type comedian..."I mean... What's the DEAL with Phoebe Bridgers?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsJYmf_G5d0

that sloppy jane song is great.

Sweet Relief, the benefit organization/concert series started by Victoria Williams in early 90s, for musicians lacking adequate medical coverage, has a May 28 livestream incl. Bridgers, more info here:
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qj4p5x/were-hosting-a-livestream-with-finneas-phoebe-bridgers-and-more?utm_source=Iterable&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=curated_vice_daily_1023202

^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPMJd6QlkBE

that sloppy jane song is great.

It is. I love Sloppy Jane (put on one of the best live shows I've seen in the last 5 years), and I knew Phoebe had been in the band briefly but had never seen evidence of it.

Absolutely floored to read Amanda Petrusich’s profile of Bridgers and learn she was the singer in that super annoying Apple commercial covering The Pixies’ Gigantic. God I used to rip on that ad mercilessly, can’t believe its star turned out to be one of the best new songwriters of the past few years.

today is Kyoto day for me. on repeat. what a song.

I liked the profile too. Grand Central Oyster Bar -- now that's a place!

There are no words in the English language
I could scream to drown you out

does phoebe actually believe in chemtrails this is important

And now she produced this lovely record:
https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/christian-lee-hutson-beginners/

so this record is very good - the new one. one or two songs feel a bit slight right now, but perhaps they'll grow.

it would be unfair to expect her to deliver another Alps/"Motion Sickness" but damn is she close w/ Punisher/"Kyoto"

YSI? 😉

I wish. :) Can't risk it, tho.

Let's just meet back here next Thursday night at midnight, cool?

Can’t wait!

Can’t hardly wait.

As much as I love "Kyoto" and "Garden Song," finding this oddly insubstantial on first listens.

Punisher
Halloween
Moon Song
Savior Complex

these kinda blur together a bit ... similar vibes, tempos, etc. "insubstantial" feels fair.

but after several listens, Punisher and Moon Song, especially, started popping out for me.

the only one i still feel pretty uninterested in is Halloween.

not sure about this one on first listen either, feels akin to the 2nd Julien Baker album. of course some ppl loved that one

'Punisher' is one of my favourite tracks so far. 'Chinese Satellite' too. I'm really loving the album after a couple of spins.

tried listening to the leak (a vinyl rip) but it sounded fairly flat to me so i think i'll wait for the official release

this is on streaming rn btw

kyoto is almost as good as motion sickness. i'll bet this one is great after a few listens, even if it doesn't make a perfect first impression.

on first listen it's pretty immediately better than stranger imo

she's a fucking great lyricist

i love "halloween" but i hate conor and wish he'd go away

"chinese satellite" has absolutely ruined my life, i'd say she outdid "motion sickness" there

was listening without paying much attention to the lyrics, and it’s washing over me. im clearly doing it wrong and will save it for a time i can pay better attention.

kyoto is still a kick in the ass tho, what an excellent song.

if you're a work of art
i'm standing too close
i can see the brush strokes

i hate your mom
i hate it when she opens her mouth
it's amazing to me how much you can say when you don't know what you're talking about

"i see you" is.... the best song

just got to chinese satellite, another great one. major echoes of the last couple albums by the national, especially in the way the drums and the strings interact. the chorus melody is super strong, feels like it could fit easily into a heroine's torch song in a disney movie.

i find it hard to get to the end of the record because i have to listen to "i see you" at least three times in a row before progressing

arrangement reminds me of neon bible (underrated)

That chord change 30 seconds or so before the end of Savior Complex!

that part where it briefly turns into 'what a wonderful world'?

Brad you should go back to stranger too

But yeah a few days on this album and even some of the less conspicuous tracks like Moon Song are revealing their richness. Helps to hear it in good sound quality.

i have gone back to stranger! it's a good record. this one's great

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/05/25/phoebe-bridgers-frank-anxious-music

Good interview here

Ah, twas mentioned earlier I see. Looking forward to playing this!

if you never get to the end of the record than you never get to the middle section of "I Know The End"

don't let that happen to you

horns on this remind me of Beulah at times.

agreed, that was my first reaction when i heard kyoto

"chinese satellite"! "i know the end"! idk if this is better than her debut but probably its equal

This seems better than her debut on first listen - I couldn't really get into Stranger aside from "Smoke Signals", "Motion Sickness" and "Scott Street".

Already love "I See You" and "Kyoto". "Chinese Satellite" is incredible, the careful plucking on "Halloween" is gorgeous imo and Oberst isn't on it long enough to be distracting, and I'm a sucker for pretty strings so "Savior Complex" is right up my street.

Still kinda meh about: "DVD Menu", "Garden Song"

update: the title track is perfect

The last two songs too.

"chinese satellite" is like a kathleen edwards-quality song

and "moon song" is 100 percent taylor swift

fucking incredible record jesus

if we were to pin boygenius songs to individual songwriters my favorite phoebe bridgers song would be "me & my dog" and she wrote an album full of songs as good or better than that one

this list gets the top 3 right:

https://www.pastemagazine.com/music/best/phoebe-bridgers-songs-boygenius-bocc/

you called me on a payphone
they still got payphones
it costs a dollar a minute

That's about her dad, right?

I’m on my first listen but so far making me feel like the early 00s is starting to come back into vogue? Reminding me of songwritery albums from that era.

xpost yes, she confirmed in something i read

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/05/25/phoebe-bridgers-frank-anxious-music

here ^

I hear that early 2000s thing too. Big Sufjan/Polyphonic Spree vibes from 'I Know The End'.

"I Know The End" sounds most like Bright Eyes tbh, just with a much better singer lol. Amazing song though, that closing verse is incredible.

i don't really like the horns on this album that much because they reminds me of bombastic 00s indie folk in a way that conflicts with the things i like about this album

even on kyoto?

especially on kyoto

gasp!

😱

i love the horns. i love the ending of i know the end too.

i listened to this while jogging today and yesterday. i think it's a masterpiece and an album i'll be listening to 20 years from now.

one of the reviews i saw compared "I Know the End" to the last track on Lifted

xxxxpost to Roz

Early favorites: "Garden Song," "Moon Song," and "Punisher."

Fantastic stuff. Huge step up from the first album imo, in terms of - well, in terms of nearly everything. Lyrics, consistency of sound not for the sake of it, not monotonous but because it builds towards something, creates a whole of an arc, and a hugely impressive one. 'I Know the End' is killer, and such a release!

Only quip is that the sonics of 'Garden Song' don't sit well with me at all! Listening through headphones, the warbly sound makes me feel seasick lol.

@LBI, was just thinking how much I love 'Garden Song' but that the soft but persistent pulse underlying everything makes me a bit anxious.

The sound on this is really weird in general, like everything is slushed together in the mix and backgrounded and then her voice is absolutely front-and-centre and crystal clear over it all.

otm

maybe that's what's been keeping me at arm's length idk

Yup

this is going to be one of those ilx mixing discussions i can't parse

record sounds amazing imo

Listening now and the kick in Garden Song is sidechained and heavily muffled, it's the sort of pulse you feel in your chest* more than hear, early-00s Kompakt did that a lot but it feels weird it hearing it in this context.

*FWIW that's clearly deliberate given the lyrics and I think it works.

It also think it's deliberate and applaud her for it, it just makes me - I should have said this earlier, obviously - 'motion sick' :)

No related problems whatsoever w/ the rest of the album.

yeah it's def designed to be as unsettling as it is lovely

To be clear, "everything is slushed together in the mix and backgrounded and then her voice is absolutely front-and-centre and crystal clear over it" I consider a compliment.

yeah the more i read that and listen along with the record i agree, though also i feel like "graceland too" and "savior complex" are too spacious and sparkling to be slushed together

it's a really good atmosphere the built around these songs, cloudy and clear in just the right amounts, and when the clouds appear they're huge cf. all the production touches on the title track

i love the muted instrumentation on "halloween," feels like i never hear an actual guitar note, just this weird space between note and harmonic

"My feet can't touch the bottom of you" -- "Moon Song"

I spent a few minutes staring at the tracklist on Spotify to find out if they'd randomly changed it or removed a song and then I realised that 'I See You' is now 'ICU'.

Matt's assessments otm

lol (i don't know if ppl w/o reddit accounts can see this)

https://www.reddit.com/r/phoebebridgers/comments/hdfegw/had_to_do_it/

^^ otm

anyone check out the recent christian lee hutson album that phoebe produced? sounding really nice to me today, and likely will to you too if your favorite song of punisher is 'savior complex'.

That album is really great.

I’m still stunned by how good this is

Painful and cathartic truth in every verse

“Cause I don't know what I want
Until I fuck it up”

The sound on this is really weird in general, like everything is slushed together in the mix and backgrounded and then her voice is absolutely front-and-centre and crystal clear over it all.

― Matt DC, Monday, June 22, 2020 2:29 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Feel like this is really what's making me not grasp onto this album too. I like a lot of parts of it but not the whole. I find it too distant and ethereal (or smushy) sonically and even with repeated listens that isn't changing.

Definitely feel that's the point of the production style too. Maybe it'll hit me differently at some point in the future.

i feel that all this heavy-handed studio production is impeding her and it's such a shame. the new bright eyes record is the same. i used to love listening to BE for mogis' creative production, and it's completely absent from their new songs, it all just sounds distorted and sterile. though phoebe's production is more creative... the arrangements for ICU are top.

in her 'what's in my bag' ameoba records episode she talks about liking elliott's 'new moon' bc of how stripped down it is... i'd like to hear her make a record with just a four track, too.

"Alps" was pretty stripped down and she's said in interviews she specifically wanted something different for this one.

because i think when you're gone it's forever
but you know i'd stand on the corner
embarrassed with a picket sign
if it meant i would see you when I die

sometimes when i can't sleep
it's just a matter of time before i'm hearing things
swore i could feel you through the walls
but that's impossible

that whole song is just incredible

Hayley Williams identified a pretty obvious stand-out part lyrics-wise as well

#nl @phoebe_bridgers pic.twitter.com/5QenjWNdii

— hayley from Paramore 🌺 (@yelyahwilliams) June 18, 2020

people desire transcendence. we don't feel at home in this world.

sometimes a poet can make this ancient wisdom sound new.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcQl5lerI3E

i like the skeleton outfit. maybe i'll get one.

just dropping by the thread to declare my love for this album

xp people will just think you're obsessed with donnie darko. this album rules.

I keep listening to it despite initial reservations about the sonics, so who knows, maybe it could be this year’s Field Day.

Garden Song does sound muddled and weird but it still brings tears to my eyes when the harmonies start.

give Phoebe credit for attacking this weird promotional environment with just enough humor and creativity to stand out from the rest of the livestreams.

the "tour" of her house, that cute A-for-effort Corden performance, the commitment to the pajamas ... it's all small stuff, but it's something!

This would have been a top 3 album for me back in 2002.

it will always be 2002 for me bb!

or more accurately, 2009

I actually love the production on this album. It's kind of ethereal, I described it to a friend as dream-folk. I like that it gets loud a few places too.

Does she do “Smelly Cat” on this album?

^ You're thinking of Phoebe Waller-Bridge

I want to love "Kyoto," but the Broken Social Scene horns (and, I guess, the "mix" generally) just do NOT do it for me. The song turns to mush at the chorus, when it should stay tight and focused. Same with "Chinese Satellite" (my 2nd-fave track), and its strings / sound effects... the production feels busy and overdone, clouding the songs rather than allowing them to shine on their own.

punisher is the album of the year

the year isn't over, but i feel like i can call it. "i know the end" feels elegiac, resigned, until about 4:35 when there is a burst of new life. not triumphant, but it's life, and when there's life there is hope.

I've been playing dead
My whole life
And I get this feeling
Whenever I feel good
It'll be the last time

some of these verses feel like things i've had memorized for years. they have "the force of inevitability"

otm

it's the album I've listened to the most this year.

i think Punisher is terrific but still (so far) think Stranger in the Alps is better. i wouldn't mind if that changes in the future, though.

The lyrics to the title track are so good, I want to quote them all.

that song is about Elliott Smith; as someone who saw probably every show Elliott Smith ever played in the Bay Are area and for whom his music was incredibly important for a few years there, I found that song really touching and effective. While my wife was in grad school with lots of people 10-12 years younger than her, several of them were pretty freaked out we'd seen him perform so many times; I wasn't even really aware he had such a strong legacy with people who weren't old enough to listen to him while he was still putting out music.

you were screaming at the evangelicals

Live from Goth Prom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zal6kbG1V4

ph*ebe bridgers flew across the atlantic during a pandemic to hook up with Connell from Normal People...messy and irresponsible but we have to stan https://t.co/ok8IjMav97

— Sophie (@insopherable) July 24, 2020

😂

This story is absolutely delightful for many reasons but particularly the specific fact of them having been outed by the Lemon Leaf Cafe in Kinsdale, County Cork, in an account that is otherwise basically just pictures of cakes.

next record is called fucklore

— traitor joe (@phoebe_bridgers) July 28, 2020

careful phoebe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ9-xN6dCW4

wonder if this was shot after COVID; the ending with the empty stadium and the way people are standing apart makes me think so, but who knows.

for real, great video but the ending with the kissing and screaming into an elderly woman's face was pretty o_O considering the circumstances. along with the transatlantic trip, she seems entirely too cavalier about this pandemic thing.

pheebs hearts harry: https://www.vulture.com/2020/08/phoebe-bridgers-favorite-books.html

everyone that age does

cancelled

i think i'd lie about it in 2020

as someone that age who was very into hp as a child, people who still vocally love it were annoying long before jkr's transphobic turn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rdElxBlnwc

that was enjoyable ^

and it led me to this, which i somehow hadn't seen ... and is also enjoyable:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUQzAHuJHKk

it includes fun interviews with producers Tony Berg and Ethan Gruska, co-writer Marshall Vore and Nate Walcott, who played trumpet on the song.

i feel like Berg would be a good person to talk to for, like, an hourlong podcast.

Good stuff, thanks

Apparently she has struck a Boomer nerve here: https://www.abc.net.au/doublej/music-reads/features/phoebe-bridgers-punisher-eric-clapton-covid/12546140

Bridgers confirms she is yet to hear from Eric Clapton, or his people, about the diss. Not that she would care.

"You know, I don't think our Venn diagrams are very connected," she says.

"I have such an Eric Clapton rant, because I think it's just extremely mediocre music, but also he's a famous racist."

"The lyric used to be, 'we hate Eric Clapton'. It's actually kind of worse now. Because it's the dead baby song, which is a heartbreaking song.

"If I were to pick an Eric Clapton song, it's up there with the ones that I actually like. So, it's kind of a lie on the record, but it sounds more poetic."

Incredible. She's the best.

hah that's v amusing

Famous Racist's Dead Baby Cookies

I immediately thought of this when I first heard the Clapton lyric: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCD-F81iptk&t=2m23s

i trust everyone knows the answer to the riddle: "What's the first thing Eric Clapton did after writing 'Tears in Heaven'?"

I only know the difference between a toddler and an eightball of coke.

Phoebe Bridgers otm

Clapton’s an easy target. If she called out Morrissey, it would be more interesting.

Not really. Septuagenarians in the biz are sacred cows, and this soppy asshole's gotten by too long

moz a way more obvious target

Moz/Smiths can’t be so easily dismissed as “mediocre,” and her & her fans’ “Venn diagrams” are more connected to them. It’s easy to take down a famous racist and say, “his music sucks, too.”

To put it another way, it’s not a big deal for an artist like her to strike a “Boomer nerve” or snap at an uncool guy like Clapton. In fact, it’s expected!

And it's not like she went out of her way to do it, it's one line on the album that a reporter asked her about. (And then NME and others turned it into a clickbait headline.)

But I posted it on FB yesterday for some Friday entertainment, and stirred up a satisfactory amount of outrage. Including lots of "I'VE NEVER HEARD OF HER WHO DOES SHE THINK SHE IS." Fish in a barrel, but kind of fun.

That's funny. I didn't think even many Boomer Music Fans™ cared much about Clapton.

If you're a dentist with a stratocaster you sure as fuck do. Ever been to The Gear Page?

Lol. My dentist is that guy too.

I have a friend's dad like that (he collects signed guitars and mounts 'em on the wall - don't know if Slowhand is represented).

Can’t believe that this guy who has been thought of as a bore for most of the last 50 odd years is finally being taken down a peg

Lol

Got myself to the point where I don’t mind the existence of Clapton’s latter day output, just don’t care to listen to it. Just now occurred to me on another thread that Richard Thompson does what I would want someone like him to do or think he should do so I guess he is The Thinking Man’s Eric Clapton, to damn him with faint praise.

boring shelves too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFiYTs7EWsU

that's pretty funny

Great stuff, thanks!

wonder if she regrets covering an SKM song now.

still a good song and a very good cover of it

wonder if she regrets covering an SKM song now.

I'm expecting "Bridgers pulls SKM cover off of streaming services" to be a headline within a week or two

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bOigld3D1k

i really like this performance, i think this version of "kyoto" is better than the album version

it's a wonderful performance of I Know The End also, the fan-videos are a nice touch for climax

I agree about “Kyoto,” but she seems bored with her own material.

don't agree with this ^

i think she is a relatively reserved performer who also probably feels somewhat awkward / conflicted doing all these online sessions to promote the album. in interviews and other performances, she seems more engaged

idk, even if she is bored with it, maybe that means she'll write new songs sooner or something

(agree the fan videos were a really nice touch on I Know The End, which is absolutely one of my favorite songs of the year)

i shouldn't say "i don't agree" ... more like "i read it differently" :)

the red rocks performance was incredible, look it up

yeah that was great, whole album live

Some really beautiful versions on CBS too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7sYhuYroHo

I don't know if this was linked before and it's a year and a half old, but this boygenius performance is off the hook amazing, particularly the take on Me and My Dog.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96wDhimQ6nw&t=1018s

hm

https://youtu.be/96wDhimQ6nw

literally every time i watch them play Me & My Dog (in any session, not just this one ^) I get the shivers when Phoebe screams her part at the end

i must be nearly 2 years and, i dunno, 40 or 50 views in?

this record's production sounds significantly fuller and better on my proper headphones than earbuds, haven't encountered this level of discrepancy between those in recent memory

i've been playing dead
my whole life
and i get this feeling
whenever i feel good
it will be the last time.

this album is an out and out masterpiece

one uncomfortable thing about her songwriting is how literally autobiographical it is. i always kind of resisted songwriting like that, and appreciated how bob dylan, even at his most confessional, would disguise his experiences in several layers of myth, just enough to give the people in life plausible deniability (somewhat not really).

however, the literalism of bridgers' lyrics seem essential to the enterprise. something about affirming the absolute reality of one's biography in an era when our identities are spread across tech platforms and like political affiliations. which is another way of saying the album feels very grounded, in a way that might have seemed naive if every song didn't hit so hard and true.

How does this new album compare to her earlier Stranger in the Alps? I couldn't click with that one, even as I recognized her obvious talent.

the production is more ambitious.

xp i think there's still a layer of myth here, or at least a fascination with urban legend that keeps it just outside of "absolute reality"

fwiw I almost gave up on Stranger in the Alps after four or five listens, but two songs from it came up on shuffle relatively close together and they both wowed me and that was the key to unlocking it.

for me, the song that sold me was "Motion Sickness."

when i learned it was about ryan adams, i was disappointed at first. it felt gossipy or something. but then i thought more about it and realized it was still a great song and an honest song. i don't think she was trying to trash him in it -- even though that would have been her prerogative, i don't think that would have made for a good song. but it's really about her experience, being disillusioned with some charismatic jerk she was infatuated with and still despite herself misses. (i've been there).

this, though, probably stung ryan adams, especially in a song that is so much better than anything he's ever written:

And why do you sing with an English accent
I guess it's too late to change it now

I very rarely -- "Sara" an exception, maybe -- felt Dylan was an autobiographical or confessional a songwriter.

blood on the tracks is about his divorce. but he tells the story in a refracted way.

it's my favorite album.

and the distance is part of what makes it work. or that tension -- you know, "is this him talking again or is he singing from the perspective of some rambler in the old west"?

Mine too, but at the risk of pedantry, I'd say it's "an album in which a guy and his wife divorce." Dylan isn't even much of a storyteller: he shares jokes, plagiarizes Americana, quotes Scripture, steals his ideas about women from Westerns.

sure, he takes you on a journey, but "finds in it, after all, a place for the genuine."

'if you see her say hello' and 'shelter from the storm' - the heart of the album - don't feel like pastiche.

Agree.

Back to Bridgers!

people use "refracted" to describe clever, nonlinear narratives in art as if the common experience of refraction is to look at your hand through a swarovski crystal dolphin in sunlight. oooooo. but our most common experiences with applied refraction are through corrective or camera lenses, which aim to give just an accurate image of reality.

good point

write-in vote for "fractured"

your favourite Punisher songs, now with strings! https://phoebebridgers.bandcamp.com/album/copycat-killer

this version of Kyoto is gorgeous.

it doesn't work very well to me, the vocals feel quite detached from the backing. maybe they should have slowed it down a little?

sappier sickly string arrangements def not what i want from my phoebe bridgers :(
(you too, julien baker!)

the strings sound great on the album version of “savior complex”

Yeah, that sample track doesn't make me feel really excited about this EP. But it's okay, can't blame her for playing around with something during the pandemic, and the original album is still getting plenty of spin around here.

Sounds real nice to me. Rob Moose is a wonderful arranger

Really into "Kyoto" recently. Not sure why it took so long to go from "solid tune I hear on the radio" to "could cry just thinking about."

She just released a cover of Iris by Goo Goo Dolls with Maggie Rogers helping out on harmonies:

https://phoebebridgers.bandcamp.com/track/iris

Judging by every cover she has made in the past year or so, I think she should really consider doing a proper covers album.

lol @ the cover art

Really into "Kyoto" recently. Not sure why it took so long to go from "solid tune I hear on the radio" to "could cry just thinking about."

― swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Thursday, November 12, 2020 10:52 AM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

it's unbelievable to me this album is only a few months old. kyoto and chinese satellite in particular feel like songs i've known for years.

Seems «Iris» has been taken down?

It was a one-day-available deal

Ah, it was a 24 hour benefit thing, apparently.

it sold an amazing amount during that one day -- 28,000 copies in the us, which is ~double or more what the top-selling digital download tends to pull in a typical week these days

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRyvr6h3nHw

here's it if anyone missed it

it's better than the original

I like how this thread title evokes a Seinfeld-ish stand-up bit...

“First there was Courtney Barnett... she was pretty good! Like if Sheryl Crow had a few Nirvana CDs and a reliable weed connection! Then there was Soccer Mommy... when I first heard her, I thought Liz Phair was trying to sneak back into the industry under an assumed name! And now this Phoebe lady... what’s the deal??”

This is why it happened

if trump loses I will cover iris by the goo goo dolls

— traitor joe (@phoebe_bridgers) November 3, 2020

I wonder if it was recorded already and she was just waiting for an occasion to drop it

i like it but it is not better than the original

it's better than the original

Yeah, this is just silly.

needs more nick cage

How’s this for a fun fact:

«Rzeznik named the song after country folk singer-songwriter Iris DeMent, after he noticed her name in a concert listing in the LA Weekly newspaper.»

i've never really liked "iris", it's too overwraught, so i was quite impressed by how bridgers made it sound like she could have written it, i much prefer her arrangement

The original is one of those songs you just have to give in to, imo. I tried to resist when I was a sullen teenager, but lost the fight pretty quick.

The original is one of those songs you just have to give in to, imo. I tried to resist when I was a sullen teenager, but lost the fight pretty quick.

The original video for Iris is weird, having now just paid attention to it for the first time ever.

2 Phoebes made a video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJlR3pvgLQA

lol the woman who tweeted this has now turned it into a full-fledged song

in 2023 Phoebe Bridgers is gonna drop her third album & the opening track will be about hooking up in the car while waiting in line to get vaccinated at dodger stadium and it’s gonna make me cry

— Jensen McRae (@Jensen_McRae) January 15, 2021

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKNnby2fhEU

passes as solidly believable julien bridgers pastiche till the percussion comes in

lol not bad

Last Night:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LE5tafaayc

smashing guitars is so friggin lame

blew off the stage

John Prine to thread!

Ugh, John Hiatt I mean.

Counterpoint: Loudon Wainwright

Smashing guitars is lame... but also looks kind of fun.

i couldn't figure out what thread morrisp.

i really, really like the song. haven't heard it before.

I thought her vocals sounded kind of hesitant on both songs last night; is this due to terrible shitty monitors in the studio? She certainly doesn't usually pull back vocally the way it seemed she was and she doesn't strike me as someone who gets nervous doing TV at this point so I'm inclined to think this is some technical issue.

Counterpoint: Loudon Wainwright

SNL is notoriously bad at mixing vocals for their musical guests. Also you could tell she was a little bit nervous during Kyoto.

That said she didn't sound bad at all compared to other SNL performances I've seen.

She only sounded worse compared to her 2020 performances.

love phoebe but the first chorus of kyoto has been a struggle before. I also don't like the slow-build-up-to-screaming song.

'Garden Song' was my most listened to track of 2020, and I don't think you play it on snl, though.

SNL needs to borrow the people who set up in-studio music for Howard Stern. Every peformance there is impeccable.

I thought Kyoto sounded great

I thought the Kyoto performance was very flat and she was clearly nervous, though both got better as it went along.

It's amazing to me that anyone has the energy and space right now to give even the tiniest shit that SNL's musical guest smashed a cheap guitar on TV. Social media is a cancer.

It didn't look very smashed.

This whole thing is so fucking ridiculous and a sign of how much people need to fill the T**mp shaped vacuum on Twitter. Like, yes, that one Brooklyn dad made a stupid as shit, misogynistic tweet, but it should have just been ignored instead of blown up to a whole thing.

xpost yeah was gonna say might need a set-up but that's about it

i guess she asked permission to smash it and told danelectro in advance? lol

At least if this is still what the word means: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/smash

Fwiw, I've seen endless posts and tweets criticizing or expressing amazement at the people who are offended by this and literally zero posts or tweets expressing offence - which itself raises a question imo: if the prevailing response (afaict) is "how could this ruffle anyone's feathers? It's completely normal and expected rock star behaviour; she even got permission from the manufacturer and used a fake monitor", what is even the purpose or significance of such a gesture? I think I'm ambivalent: on the one hand, polite fake guitar-hitting seems somewhat pointless. On the other hand, there's a case to be made that actually impassioned genuine guitar-smashing is wasteful and destructive so maybe this is better?

xps

Apart from this, I actually found the performances fairly engaging, as someone who was largely left cold by the album and is a non-fan of the genre.

listen, if the neck doesn't snap, you didn't smash the guitar. call me old fashioned, that's just how i was raised by my pappy

If the neck doesn't split, you must acquit

Trying to imagine Hendrix going to Fender and Monterey security days in advance like "OK if I torch this strat? I'll lay some protective stuff on the stage first, don't worry"

Or Sinead dutifully securing the green light from the Catholic church before tearing up the pic of old popey on national tv

smashing an instrument is a meaningless rockstar gesture even when done, uh, correctly afaic but watching that clip I felt embarrassed for everyone involved

lol sufjan

the amount of conversation about this even here is almost certainly misogyny

I dunno it's just a goofy thing imo

the funniest part is that they made a fake monitor for the event per bridgers on twitter, i was wondering because i thought that thing really sparked up a lot for getting hit with a guitar, usually stage wedges are generally passive speakers, but even if they were powered that would be a lot

Misogynist take on live sound imo

the band begins to play. the lead singer is singing. but what's this -- she is also winding new pickups for her guitar. will she finish assembling the guitar by the time the song reaches her solo? nobody knows. she is soldering the pickup wire to the 5-way switch. the iron isn't hot enough! this is fucking rock n' roll.

isnt that the "from a motel 6" video

she's throwing the solder balls from the cold joints into the audience! she joins the wires with twist-ons because who gives a shit. she didn't add any capacitors -- every frequency is invited to this party of a solo. here it comes!

I thought the performances were fine by SNL standards and the guitar-smashing was jokey fun. It's just exhausting the things people decide need to be A Topic of Conversation.

twitter just needs things to chew through every day

for each new snl ep, there's an article that describes what the cast and guests said in the 15 second promos. this is just normal snl churn.

Just watched her do “Kyoto” with Phillip Glass on piano, Jackson Browne on backing vocals and some orchestral string players whose names I didn’t catch , as part of the Tibet House benefit stream

She also did “Moon Song” with the same musicians

Both done in a very laidback manner but with enough spark and tunefulness

i might love this album too much. it's like everything i every wanted from an indie album in one spot.

i thought i had aged out of loving albums like this, like really resonating with the lyrics and overall mood in such a direct, unmediated way

Then i changed my miiiiind

not really my vibe but here's a new Luminous Kid single with Bridgers chiming in with spoken word at around the 3 minute moment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMF-34uyj-U

Every time I see this thread title I imagine Joe Biden saying it at a podium or Jerry Seinfeld saying it at an open mic

I did a whole bit about that above!

Finally announced a 2021 tour. Wish there was another chance to see her in Chicago that didn't involve Pitchfork Fest but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

https://pitchfork.com/news/phoebe-bridgers-announces-2021-us-tour/

So, um. I've seen the story pop up a few different prominent places now, and I don't know what to make of the fact that they all seem to similarly focus on the many salacious details but sort of glide right past the accusation that that producer dude who is suing for defamation is *literally a murderer*, which seems a much more serious and extreme accusation than fraud and theft etc..

tone of reporting around this is weird but i guess they can't outright say the dude suing her is a scumbag

gotta be careful around literally a murder

Yeah, while I can't promise I've read everything about this, it all scans like he's trying to get ahead of some very serious shit coming down on his head. Combined with his suit against Noel Wells, it feels more like damage control.

Um...ngl, but I'm reading that there are no police reports associated with these alleged incidents? Obviously FTP, but it's a little unhinged to assume that this guy murders and bludgeons people based on the hearsay in a former lover's now-deleted Instagram account?

file transfer protocol?

Fuck the Police

I just found it odd that none of the stories *lead* with the accusation of murder. It's like, "he lies, he cheats, he's a fraud, he murdered someone, he smells bad, he's not nice ..."

Because Bridgers didn't accuse him of that? "Phoebe Bridgers sued for linking to the Instagram of Guy's Ex-Girlfriend who accuses him of murder, abuse" is kind of a strange lede.

Oh, I know. It's just how it's listed in his response to the accusations.

Nelson alleges Bannon “published false, defamatory, and misleading statements about (him) stating, among other things, that (Nelson) is a career criminal, murdered a man, commits racially-motivated hate crimes, abuses women, stole hundreds of thousands of dollars, trafficked in stolen or fake goods, committed cybercrimes, and defrauded numerous people.”

Especially possibly racially-motivated murder.

NGL— this might be bad faith and spurious on his part, but I'm also not really buying "was a SoCal Klansman who committed sexual cybercrimes" accusations either.

I've only seen the (weird) Pitchfork story, but I don't know why they would lead with the accusation of murder. As mentioned above, it seems to have been made in a now-deleted Instagram account, and the guy himself raised it in a defamation suit last December. I don't know why that and the other old suit even newsworthy (or even his suit against Bridgers, tbh).

My take on the Pfork piece is they did this dude a weird solid by airing out claims he's been making in various lawsuits. No one knows this guy, who gaf?

yeah, this feels like fallout from a failed effort to extort phoebe bridgers

Lots of victim blaming going on in here, shameful

(that was a joke)

She has a fine new song on Bandcamp: https://phoebebridgers.bandcamp.com/track/that-funny-feeling-2

you mean... Bo Burnham cover

ugh I just got less interested in hearing this

more like Gerald Boing Boing

got tix to see her in June

yeah, great show but she had to stop the show like 5 times for medical emergencies bc people kept on passing out from dehydration (apparently)

also, people were lining up since 5pm the day before so when the doors opened, they all ran to the front and several people were trampled

somewhere along the line i joined the Phoebe subreddit and i swear everyone in there is super young and seeing her for their first-ever concert. they are all asking each other about when they should get in line, how early do they need to get there to be in the front row, where the merch stands are, how much money do they need to buy all the merch, etc.

it should be cute but it's actually annoying. this may be because i am a 46-year-old member of the Phoebe Bridgers subreddit.

because i am a 46-year-old member of the Phoebe Bridgers subreddit.

^^New Borad Description?

no boygenius thread I gather but FULL ALBUM coming

https://i.imgur.com/wi9bIVF.png

Every time I see this thread title my mind posits a very lame non-existent Seinfeld but

Bit

I like how this thread title evokes a Seinfeld-ish stand-up bit...

“First there was Courtney Barnett... she was pretty good! Like if Sheryl Crow had a few Nirvana CDs and a reliable weed connection! Then there was Soccer Mommy... when I first heard her, I thought Liz Phair was trying to sneak back into the industry under an assumed name! And now this Phoebe lady... what’s the deal??”

― it's AG in your faaaace.... (morrisp), Sunday, November 15, 2020 7:00 PM (two years ago)

There appears to be a song on this record titled "Leonard Cohen"

Bring it on, the EP is glorious, and each one of them has gotten better since then. Phoebe is opening for Taylor Swift, right? She's gonna get a lot of new fans this year.

it should be cute but it's actually annoying. this may be because i am a 46-year-old member of the Phoebe Bridgers subreddit.

this reminds me of a friend of mine telling me he got annoyed at the boygenius show he went to because there were so many young people and I was like "dude, I too wound up being a 50 year old greyhair at a phoebe bridgers concert and that is just something you have to accept"

Phoebe is opening for Taylor Swift, right?

That has got to be either the best or the worst opening slot in the world.

she'll do great but if you were annoyed by her fans now, just wait until she picks up more swifties

I wish her luck convincing those people that she is more than the only thing standing between them and Taylor.

man, I think they took it down, but there was a boygenius pitchfork live set from brooklyn on youtube for a few years that I watched about a thousand times, the version of Me and My Dog in it is one of my favorite live performances ever I think.

Interscope, huh? I guess they outgrew Matador. I wonder if Julien and Lucy are still there as solo artists.

(Old Matador BBS interests die hard.)

the pitchfork live session is def now gone from youtube, I wonder if that's because of the band changing labels or something...or maybe they're going to release that session in some other way. I hope it comes back, it's something else. there are a few audience shot videos of the same show but they're not as good obviously

phoebe's set that preceeded theirs does appear to still be online though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLYlYwoqeFI

Genuinely excited for the album. The EP is magnificent.

Yep, love the EP and optimistic that they’ll all bring good material for the album.

Heard her on a Sirius XM radio show playing lots of melancholy rock ballads by Big Star and others and she was enthusing about Alex Chilton from Box Tops days to Big Star and solo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJFaEfwu6J8

they sound fucking amazing together, once again

Three tracks (including the above) on Spotify. All lovely but True Blue stands out as a Dacus masterclass.

I like them all, "$20" best because I always like when Baker rocks out a little. Hope there's at least a bit more of that on the album.

I think there should be a boygenius thread, really. Any objections?

make it

boygenius: Baker Bridgers Dacus LLC

I absolutely love Phoebe Bridgers, but even as a huge Phoebe Bridgers fan, I would be very good with seeing about 65% fewer "artist X releases a new single featuring Phoebe Bridgers" headlines every month. Seems like they are hitting every few days right now.

🤑

Phoeturing Phoebe.

The National one is fucking ridiculous: 'contains tincture of Bridgers'.

What prompted this was realizing that today's Pitchfork headline about a new song with Rob Moose was indeed not the same headline as the one from two days ago about a new song with Arlo Parks.

clearly a Bridgers too far

It won't last, you're only the new cool kid for a while, but she seems like she's having fun.

Also she obviously loves collaborating.

"Rob Moose" is killing me for some reason what a hilarious name

Mortal enemy of

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71EytrCqVML.jpg

In the photo accompanying the pfork article, HE seems to be the one wearing her trademark "skeleton costume" garb... unexpected switcheroo!

Lol every Pitchfoyk article about this Rob Moose guy has Bridgers’ name in the headline