charly bliss: guppy

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hi everyone this is my fav band in new york, like most bands in new york they recall the '90s but this is more specifically the belly/veruca salt axis if a little squeakier and more invariably bright

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_2UqssvaSc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGhFsNP_Rdk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-grIezjeaw

album out april 24

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 17:53 (two years ago) link

<3

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 20:33 (two years ago) link

as expected this thread will be authored by me and johnny fever, no features

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 21:28 (two years ago) link

very catchy

this is what all bands in nyc sound like now?

flopson, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 22:27 (two years ago) link

j/k tho i feel like there's not an insignificant amount of '90s throwback rock bands here or in philly

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 22:42 (two years ago) link

these guys have a particular ear for hooks though imo and prioritize the pop as much if not slightly more than the power which sets them apart

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 22:47 (two years ago) link

i've been waiting for a thread where i could casually drop the names of letters to cleo and eve's plum and not feel unwelcome.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 22:57 (two years ago) link

also, they seem like they should be from boston, not new york.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 22:58 (two years ago) link

I will admit and acknowledge that the throwbackness of Charly Bliss is what drew me to them initially, but Brad is right that they write exquisitely hooky songs that take the whole enterprise well above pastiche.

I've been trying to nail who exactly Eva's voice reminds me of. I'm still not there, but one day it will come to me.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 03:38 (two years ago) link

kind of close vocally: paula kelley of the drop nineteens (speaking of boston):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaN1rMjH18E

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 04:46 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

is this album out yet?

flopson, Thursday, 2 March 2017 18:04 (two years ago) link

sorry, reread OP

flopson, Thursday, 2 March 2017 18:04 (two years ago) link

my god, this is the new best band ever

alpine static, Friday, 10 March 2017 18:45 (two years ago) link

this is the closest 90s thing to charly bliss imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glDFPjrolx0

flopson, Friday, 10 March 2017 19:02 (two years ago) link

yes! that dog. was what immediately came to mind for me, too. charly singer is a bit squeakier than Anna Waronker, but yes.

alpine static, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 23:57 (two years ago) link

Yeah, BradNelson is OTM that they bring the hooks. Thanks for pointing this band out

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Thursday, 16 March 2017 04:12 (two years ago) link

Charly Bliss are great. They've been around for awhile—"Love Me" was one of my favorite songs of 2014—I'm glad they're finally releasing an album (thankfully it's not loaded with old songs, like Bully's debut; "Ruby," "Percolator," and "Gatorade" are the only tracks already released). Does anyone else prefer the Audiotree Live version of "Percolator"? I love her yelp in the beginning.

Handsome Bookor, Thursday, 16 March 2017 16:20 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elL0ktbhhnM

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 April 2017 16:04 (two years ago) link

Great song and love the video for it. "Black Hole" is "Bad Box" on their audiotree live performance for those interested.

Handsome Bookor, Friday, 7 April 2017 21:34 (two years ago) link

this band seems great

ciderpress, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 13:21 (two years ago) link

Guppy streaming now at NPR.

http://www.npr.org/2017/04/13/523437524/first-listen-charly-bliss-guppy

Handsome Bookor, Thursday, 13 April 2017 13:30 (two years ago) link

omg

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 April 2017 13:31 (two years ago) link

oh yeah this is precisely as good as i expected it to be

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 April 2017 14:16 (two years ago) link

yeah this totally rules, hooks for days

devvvine, Thursday, 13 April 2017 14:31 (two years ago) link

mentioning belly made me very curious.

Nourry, Thursday, 13 April 2017 15:09 (two years ago) link

This is everything I wanted it to be <333

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 15 April 2017 02:16 (two years ago) link

unsurprisingly I love this album, but it is way more like kay hanley than tanya donelly, both in sound and songwriting

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Saturday, 15 April 2017 03:00 (two years ago) link

Yeah, there's nothing Belly-ish about this at all. I like it more than I ever liked Letter to Cleo, though.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 15 April 2017 03:29 (two years ago) link

I'm not sure why they re-recorded "Ruby." I mean, it's about 99% the same, but the tiny differences are throwing me off.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 15 April 2017 03:33 (two years ago) link

btw the answer to who her voice reminds you of is mz moxy, or at least it is for me

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Saturday, 15 April 2017 03:42 (two years ago) link

This album is a miracle

And yeah I hear Letters to Cleo here more than anyone else, but they never made an album this consistently good

bunny slopes, Saturday, 15 April 2017 06:13 (two years ago) link

"DQ" is so killer

Handsome Bookor, Saturday, 15 April 2017 21:06 (two years ago) link

Of the songs posted itt, I quite like "Glitter." The rest are somewhere between "yeah, this is catchy" and "but did I really need another Letters to Cleo record?" Still, I'll check out the album. Hoping "Glitter" isn't the only track with synths on it.

some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Saturday, 15 April 2017 21:41 (two years ago) link

it's not! did....did you not need another letters to cleo record?

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Saturday, 15 April 2017 23:36 (two years ago) link

I liked LtC, but I haven't touched their 90s records in years.

some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Saturday, 15 April 2017 23:44 (two years ago) link

I mean we just DID get another letters to cleo record also

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Sunday, 16 April 2017 02:59 (two years ago) link

and that's not counting Weaponize or either of the Palmdale EPs

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Sunday, 16 April 2017 02:59 (two years ago) link

yeah also that!

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, 16 April 2017 03:43 (two years ago) link

Can't stop playing this album. Definitely my favorite of the year so far. Torn between "DQ" and "Glitter" as the best song on it.

Handsome Bookor, Thursday, 20 April 2017 21:17 (two years ago) link

i really like the rerecording of "ruby" and generally how much synth they layered over this thing

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 20 April 2017 21:24 (two years ago) link

I came around to the new "Ruby"; took some getting used to. Was listening to the A Lot to Say and Soft Serve EPs today and realized just how much progress they've made with Guppy (really glad Eva takes lead vocals on all 10 tracks).

Also, she's quickly becoming one of my favorite lyricists. So funny, bizarre, and self-deprecative, but not in a classically emo tear-yourself-down kinda way. So many quotables on this record, but the opening lines of "DQ" are my favorite: "I laughed when your dog died/it's cruel, but it's true/take me back, kiss my soft side/does he love me most now that his dog is toast?"

Handsome Bookor, Thursday, 20 April 2017 21:57 (two years ago) link

katherine this is great! http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/23085-guppy/

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 21 April 2017 11:51 (two years ago) link

Doesn't sound like them particularly but something reminds me of The Blake Babies.

yugi ex, Friday, 21 April 2017 18:38 (two years ago) link

I made a post in this thread yesterday giving Katherine a hi-five for namedropping Stretch Princess in 2017, but it disappeared. I can't let that acknowledgement go unappreciated though, so I'm posting it again.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 22 April 2017 12:46 (two years ago) link

"jawbreaker soundtrack" could be swapped out for "she's all that soundtrack" or really just like any soundtrack between 1995-2005

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Sunday, 23 April 2017 19:11 (two years ago) link

Love this album.

Matt DC, Sunday, 23 April 2017 21:22 (two years ago) link

this is great, they totally get that the best of this stuff was about hard rock as much as it was about hooks

call all destroyer, Monday, 24 April 2017 14:59 (two years ago) link

ennhhh, not especially

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Monday, 24 April 2017 18:01 (two years ago) link

I want to like this so much. They kind of have "Erica band" written all over them and yet I find her voice so awful and grating that I can't listen to any of it beyound a couple seconds. :/

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 24 April 2017 20:27 (two years ago) link

this is a total sugar rush

ciderpress, Tuesday, 25 April 2017 12:50 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

seeing them tonight. this album is so catchy.

geoffreyess, Friday, 12 May 2017 20:12 (two years ago) link

Eva Hendricks last night: "Do you guys love the song "Minneapolis" by that dog.?"

geoffreyess, Saturday, 13 May 2017 15:50 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Hey, I like this record.

It looks like some other old person beat me to the that dog comparison, but it's accurate. These are some catchy songs, and toadilly unique vocals.

Charly Bliss are a dynamite act!!!

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 31 May 2017 17:01 (two years ago) link

i'm not old enough to remember it from the 90s but when i was in college my roommate and i watched every spike jonze music video :)

lovin the album btw. it's almost slight in its hyper-focused aesthetic, but perfecting the micro-est of pop micro-genres is the noblest pursuit imo

flopson, Wednesday, 31 May 2017 17:05 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9DEK9mNVRU

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 14:52 (two years ago) link

^^the song that hooked me initially

geoffreyess, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 20:23 (two years ago) link

That's definitely Camp Crystal Lake

Handsome Bookor, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 10:18 (two years ago) link

this album makes me so happy

alpine static, Friday, 16 June 2017 00:31 (two years ago) link

it reminds me of Be Your Own Pet in a lot of (good) ways

boxedjoy, Friday, 16 June 2017 07:26 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

Four months later and this is still my favourite album of the year. like nothing else even comes close to this for me, pretty much every song is fantastic.

josh az (2011nostalgia), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 04:49 (two years ago) link

it is very good. i've come back to it more than any other new album as well.

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 05:00 (two years ago) link

samesies

i don't know if i will really put it at #1 at year's end, but it will be top 5 and i probably listen to it more than whatever will be ahead of it

alpine static, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 05:39 (two years ago) link

I really hope this crushes it in the year-end album poll

josh az (2011nostalgia), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 06:04 (two years ago) link

the choruses on this are never leaving my brain these days, I wake up most days with something from this playing in my head

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 08:28 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

i love this album! a fun tidbit i also just learned is that the male guitarist was the voice of "dash" in the movie the incredibles

monotony, Monday, 2 October 2017 00:09 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2GZT5f4J7U

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 13 October 2017 15:13 (two years ago) link

seeing them and wolf parade in a tiny venue on Saturday, extremely stoked

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 13 October 2017 15:18 (two years ago) link

that's a great video

would love to see WP

niels, Sunday, 15 October 2017 08:51 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

This album never wears out.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 03:41 (two years ago) link

Glitter never fails to sounds absolutely magica

josh az (2011nostalgia), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 04:56 (two years ago) link

*magical

josh az (2011nostalgia), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 04:56 (two years ago) link

eight months pass...

saw them last night, the listed set times were more of a lie than pizzagate and qanon combined (I'm old, live nowhere near brooklyn and work 9 to 5 so I'm probably just complaining unnecessarily) but the set itself was amazing

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 24 August 2018 14:39 (one year ago) link

I just don't get big gaps between artists playing, fair enough when you're with someone but as a regular single gig goer they are just painful. Finish the show earlier and we can all go home, or get an extra local band to play a set.

Old and cranky I am.

Minister of the Pillow (fionnland), Friday, 24 August 2018 15:45 (one year ago) link

But yes they put on a great show, always seem thankful to the crowds which I love

Minister of the Pillow (fionnland), Friday, 24 August 2018 15:46 (one year ago) link

few bands seem as genuinely appreciative of the attention as this band, it's v charming

alpine static, Friday, 24 August 2018 17:07 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

my sister saw these folks open for Death Cab the other night and I'm listening to this album now and it's good I think

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 16:59 (one year ago) link

you are a right thinking person

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 17:00 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

New album out on May 10th!!

https://lnk.bio/charlybliss?fbclid=IwAR0Ha37znKyFb7i3KsOh8SILR0CZfzqlQS_08Sxl1w_QxkQ4nLavmxIDfBg

kitchen person, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 15:13 (eleven months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3yayHHmUxs

you beat me to it!!!

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 15:13 (eleven months ago) link

Haha, I was surprised to be the first one. Video directed by Michelle Zauner of Japanese Breakfast. Two of my favourites!

kitchen person, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 15:16 (eleven months ago) link

Oh great another guitar band discovers synths.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 15:17 (eleven months ago) link

wasn't really expecting them to suddenly get into the synths but i like it, the verse reminds me a fair bit of LC!

ufo, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 15:22 (eleven months ago) link

I appreciate the dedication to accurate 90s recall of the guitars to analog synth shift that happened mid decade, but tbh this song is underserved by Moogs.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 15:23 (eleven months ago) link

Nice

Sam Weller, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 15:40 (eleven months ago) link

Just noticed that Heaven isn't on the new album. That's a shame.

kitchen person, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 15:56 (eleven months ago) link

Normally, I'm all synths >>>>>>> guitars but yeah, really don't feel this applies here. Lovely melodies as usual, but so much of what made their debut great were those punchy, sparkly guitar hooks.

Roz, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 16:03 (eleven months ago) link

Aweh I really like this!

josh az (2011nostalgia), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 16:39 (eleven months ago) link

I hate to be a "I miss the guitars" guy but I miss the guitars

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 16:43 (eleven months ago) link

i assume y'all will get some of what you want on the actual record

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 17:15 (eleven months ago) link

yeah, i expect this track will fit better into an album compared to how it seems as a standalone.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 17:16 (eleven months ago) link

I hope we get some more guitars. But the fact that they left Heaven off the album makes me think otherwise.

MarkoP, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 17:18 (eleven months ago) link

i think "heaven" was written and recorded before any of the new album, is why it's standalone

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 17:31 (eleven months ago) link

they played it at the guppy release show i attended two years ago

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 17:31 (eleven months ago) link

part of team sceptical/concerned over here.
Guppy was probably my most-played record of 2017 and this... reminds somewhat of Kero Kero Bonito during the snythy beginning and Carly Rae Jepsen towards the end?

And even though I absolutely love KKB and CRJ, this just isn't what I want from Charly Bliss.

fragglerock, Thursday, 7 February 2019 01:12 (eleven months ago) link

I don't know, I enjoy songs with a lovely chorus and harmonies, so I like this a lot. And it does have guitars. Something for everyone.

Sam Weller, Thursday, 7 February 2019 09:20 (eleven months ago) link

I don't know if this really count as "another guitar band discovers synths" -- the hooks are still there, and there's a long gap from this to landfill synthpop. also, it's great, kind of reminds me of fight like apes

theorizing your yells (katherine), Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:01 (eleven months ago) link

yeah i kept wanting to post “the bones of this song are good who caaares”

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:02 (eleven months ago) link

enh sonics matter, and despite the trad instrumentation on the last album, the sound was more distinctive. this sounds like a million other acts to me (for now, anyway)

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:03 (eleven months ago) link

maybe it's just that Eva's voice stands out to me more contrasting w/ the crunch

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:04 (eleven months ago) link

I mean, <i>Guppy</i> also sounded like a million other acts, they just happened to be really good ones

theorizing your yells (katherine), Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:09 (eleven months ago) link

And many of them were from 20 years ago.

MarkoP, Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:10 (eleven months ago) link

that too

theorizing your yells (katherine), Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:11 (eleven months ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXrJwXRyitg

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 15:51 (ten months ago) link

Why does this one suck too? I'm worried.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 March 2019 17:58 (ten months ago) link

"capacity" doesn't suck wtf

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 17:59 (ten months ago) link

this one doesn't suck either but i'm still adjusting to it

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 18:00 (ten months ago) link

You're right. But it's not super great or anything. xp

This one for sure sucks.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 March 2019 18:01 (ten months ago) link

how do you tell which songs suck

moose; squirrel (silby), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 18:03 (ten months ago) link

For this band it's easy.

"Is this a song that only Charly Bliss could write?"

If the answer is yes, then hold on to your butt.

If the answer is no, then this sucks and why are they doing this??

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 March 2019 18:06 (ten months ago) link

feel like the great thing about this song is how the bridge completely takes over the middle of it

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 18:08 (ten months ago) link

i don't think i'm a fan of this one : /

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 6 March 2019 18:16 (ten months ago) link

i like this a lot, the progression and accumulation is really satisfying

lowercase (eric), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 18:28 (ten months ago) link

can't imagine complaining about the guitars on this one, at least

lowercase (eric), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 18:29 (ten months ago) link

Here's my main gripe, and it may make sense or it may not, but apart from the songwriting itself on the first album, the thing that hooked me so deep to it is that everything they were doing just felt they were a conduit for pure crunchy pop rock energy captured from the ether. Nothing about it sounded like *work*, like these songs were birthed, fully formed and any and all fine-tuning was unnecessary. Ten perfect musical prizes.

Chatroom, especially, but Capacity as well, sound like the portal closed. They sound plotted, sculpted, and engineered to be *a sound*. And it comes through abundantly clear.

I dunno. The immediacy and impulsiveness is missing. If that makes any sense.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 March 2019 18:37 (ten months ago) link

They're ostensibly fine songs, well-written, etc. They don't even sound phoned-in or anything. They did a good job with them.

They just don't kick me in the guts.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 March 2019 18:40 (ten months ago) link

yeah I wouldn't say either song sucks exactly, I'd still rather listen to them than half the singles out this year, but there is a bit of sophomore slump to them

theorizing your yells (katherine), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 19:13 (ten months ago) link

meh.
maybe album #3 will align with my taste more again.

fragglerock, Wednesday, 6 March 2019 22:37 (ten months ago) link

album 2 isn't even out yet!!

alpine static, Thursday, 7 March 2019 01:41 (ten months ago) link

but the direction seems clear, no?

fragglerock, Thursday, 7 March 2019 02:56 (ten months ago) link

JF otm. Neither of these songs are bad, but they also sound like they could have been made by a gazillion other bands. I loved the energy of Guppy.

Roz, Thursday, 7 March 2019 06:07 (ten months ago) link

I like this band a lot but I'm not convinced the first album is as wildly original or distinctive as is being made out here.

Matt DC, Thursday, 7 March 2019 12:21 (ten months ago) link

the first album isn't wildly original at all but it did feel distinctive enough in how good it was at the particular power pop sound it was aiming for

the new songs are enjoyable enough but i agree with those that feel they don't really capture what made the debut so good

ufo, Thursday, 7 March 2019 12:45 (ten months ago) link

This band was never very original; in fact Guppy remains wildly overrated. However, "Chatroom" is ace. I love it when plain-jane indie bands swing for the pop fences like this.

A. Begrand, Thursday, 7 March 2019 13:24 (ten months ago) link

Lemme ask you this: do you prefer your music made with considered precision or more of a spark of immediacy?

Despite the fact I'm a huge Def Leppard fan, I generally get more of a kick from the latter.

These songs (and this album?) seem to be the product of the former, and that's the opposite of what I found so great about them.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 March 2019 14:45 (ten months ago) link

About Charly Bliss, that is.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 March 2019 14:46 (ten months ago) link

Just heard the new album for the first time. First impressions are that it's not the instant classic that Guppy was, but it's a good album. They have not done a Haim on us. The guitars have not totally disappeared although it is very keyboard heavy. There aren't exactly many tracks that could fit on the debut.

I'm hoping it's like the second Alvvays album where some of the songs initially seem a bit too slight, but they end up getting stuck in my head with me eventually enjoying the album as a whole as much as I loved the debut.

kitchen person, Sunday, 10 March 2019 06:33 (ten months ago) link

Just heard the new album for the first time

h-has it leaked?

josh az (2011nostalgia), Sunday, 10 March 2019 18:39 (ten months ago) link

Yeah, these new songs = not my taste at all. Still listening to "Percolator" and "Glitter" a lot, though.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Sunday, 10 March 2019 18:44 (ten months ago) link

h-has it leaked?

― josh az (2011nostalgia),

I have a stream of it to review.

kitchen person, Sunday, 10 March 2019 18:50 (ten months ago) link

It's extremely rare that I would get something sent this early.

kitchen person, Sunday, 10 March 2019 18:51 (ten months ago) link

Both new songs are v. enjoyable.

Sam Weller, Monday, 11 March 2019 08:35 (ten months ago) link

You're a cop.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 11 March 2019 13:28 (ten months ago) link

How do you do, fellow Brooklynites.

Sam Weller, Monday, 11 March 2019 15:29 (ten months ago) link

four weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQZdBVgkYCg&feature=youtu.be

love this new one (guitars and power pop choruses are back).

Roz, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 15:03 (nine months ago) link

that embed doesn't work so here it is again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQZdBVgkYCg

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 15:09 (nine months ago) link

song kicks ass

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 15:09 (nine months ago) link

soz thanks, don't know what went wrong there.

Roz, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 15:10 (nine months ago) link

fuck yeah, this rules

devvvine, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 15:33 (nine months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Got an advance of the new one in full. Opening track is a very smart way to start.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 03:44 (eight months ago) link

I really wasn't feeling the new album that much after my first play, but now I'm five plays in I'm already as obsessed with it as I was with Guppy. The title track in particular is really hitting me hard. I love how much bolder Eva's lyrics are overall.

They're one of the best groups around.

kitchen person, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 05:22 (eight months ago) link

^^^^

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 19:47 (eight months ago) link

also imo ppl spoke too soon about the sound change

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 19:48 (eight months ago) link

also imo this album kicks a ton of ass

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 20:56 (eight months ago) link

"hard to believe" as penultimate track is expert sequencing

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 21:13 (eight months ago) link

and in time i will probably prefer this to guppy

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 21:19 (eight months ago) link

<i>and in time i will probably prefer this to guppy</i>

Ok, that sounds serious

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 21:20 (eight months ago) link

I will give this album a fair listen, but I'm still skeptical.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 21:21 (eight months ago) link

If this were the 90s and Charly Bliss were Letters to Cleo , Guppy would be the cd still in everyone's collections (Aurora Gory Alice) and Young Enough would be the cd in every music store's used bin (Wholesale Meats and Fish).

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 22:08 (eight months ago) link

"Capacity" hits a nerve for me in a very real and specific way and I've gone from being fond of it as a single by a band I really like to easily one of my favourite singles released in a long, long time - I'm very excited to listen to this album

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 22:42 (eight months ago) link

i get the chorus stuck in my head a lot (often while i'm thinking about the big thief album lol)

lowercase (eric), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 22:51 (eight months ago) link

Guppy would be the cd still in everyone's collections (Aurora Gory Alice) and Young Enough would be the cd in every music store's used bin (Wholesale Meats and Fish).

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, May 8, 2019 6:08 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this seems backwards

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Thursday, 9 May 2019 00:34 (eight months ago) link

Just based on the sampler tracks, this album sounds more appealing to me than Guppy, which I was never really sold on.

o. nate, Thursday, 9 May 2019 01:02 (eight months ago) link

this sounds good on first listen but i kinda doubt itll stick with me as much as guppy did

ufo, Thursday, 9 May 2019 01:07 (eight months ago) link

and in time i will probably prefer this to guppy

― american bradass (BradNelson)

I think I already do!

kitchen person, Thursday, 9 May 2019 01:09 (eight months ago) link

this album sounds more appealing to me than Guppy, which I was never really sold on.

i literally have no idea how this could be

alpine static, Thursday, 9 May 2019 01:51 (eight months ago) link

Not feeling this so much. I mean it's not bad but Guppy had a sharper production and better melodies. This is Charly Bliss taking one step forward towards accessibility.

nostormo, Thursday, 9 May 2019 05:46 (eight months ago) link

guppy was incredibly accessible though, is the thing?

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 May 2019 12:41 (eight months ago) link

I love how much bolder Eva's lyrics are overall.

staring at cars
selling your art
feeling so sure you're waking up tomorrow

better son or daughter
drunk walking home
making the choice to be completely alone

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 May 2019 12:45 (eight months ago) link

Guppy would be the cd still in everyone's collections (Aurora Gory Alice) and Young Enough would be the cd in every music store's used bin (Wholesale Meats and Fish).

lol the latter is a WAY better album!

Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Thursday, 9 May 2019 12:59 (eight months ago) link

Yes but this is even more friendly and poppy, with softer guitars and keyboards.

Xxpost

nostormo, Thursday, 9 May 2019 13:00 (eight months ago) link

i guess but i still feel all their sharpness in stuff like "camera," "bleach," "hard to believe," etc.

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 May 2019 13:04 (eight months ago) link

"camera" is maybe the best song here besides the title track

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 May 2019 13:05 (eight months ago) link

It's a good record. But Guppy is better. First impression.i might change my mind after a few spins who knowd

nostormo, Thursday, 9 May 2019 13:16 (eight months ago) link

i think there's a strokes song that really resembles "blown to bits"

overall this album doesn't have quite the same sense of dynamics or density of hooks (but that comes with the lower tempos generally) which were part of what made the debut so good

ufo, Thursday, 9 May 2019 13:19 (eight months ago) link

OTM

nostormo, Thursday, 9 May 2019 13:21 (eight months ago) link

oh it's "all the time" of all things, they have pretty similar choruses

ufo, Thursday, 9 May 2019 13:21 (eight months ago) link

i think this record is way more dynamic than the debut

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 May 2019 14:08 (eight months ago) link

less within the songs themselves than from song-to-dog i guess, but this album has a really beautiful arc

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 May 2019 14:09 (eight months ago) link

song-to-song* lol

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 May 2019 14:09 (eight months ago) link

oh man, we're not gonna agree on this one, huh?

anyway, _for me_ it's pleasurably boring. It's okay and I get the appeal but as someone how still puts on Guppy to heighten the mood two years later, I can't see how this record would ever come close. Completely different mood, and not one I necessarily needed from Charly Bliss.

fragglerock, Thursday, 9 May 2019 14:13 (eight months ago) link

this is really bizarre to me, i guess we’re not hearing the same record!

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 May 2019 14:14 (eight months ago) link

When I listen to Guppy I hear a young band cramming a ton of interesting ideas into their songs. However for me the listening experience is a bit tiring at times. Young Enough is less fatiguing on my ears. Course I’m old so ymmv.

o. nate, Thursday, 9 May 2019 14:15 (eight months ago) link

just one song but “over you” doesn’t strike me as a distinct mood from guppy at all

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 May 2019 14:19 (eight months ago) link

like i don’t mean to split hairs this much but this album is a same-band-with-new-tricks situation imo and there’s v little to complain about bc the new tricks are so well integrated, plus there are plenty of guppy-style bangers

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 May 2019 14:28 (eight months ago) link

this is otm ^

it's more dynamic than guppy, less densely hooky (but still hooky), moodier and a little less one-note (although that one note on guppy was as good as it gets).

they've basically followed up an incredible debut by doing something that's really hard: make a second record that is still "them" but also incorporates some new ideas, shows a little range/ambition and points them in a direction going forward.

it's impressive! does it all add up to "better than guppy"? time will tell (but that is an insanely high bar, btw)

("under you" and "hard to believe" rule)

alpine static, Thursday, 9 May 2019 15:48 (eight months ago) link

... is "bleach" in 6/4? i love it deeply

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 May 2019 23:35 (eight months ago) link

the way eva's voice ascends and descends according to the synth melody is wonderful, it's like "scare u" x1000

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 May 2019 23:36 (eight months ago) link

This is fucking brilliant

boxedjoy, Friday, 10 May 2019 07:13 (eight months ago) link

I feel like if you loved "Guppy" because it was a great pop-punk album then this isn't the album for you but if you loved it because of the great lyrics and hooks and wanted to see them go bigger, bolder and more confident, then this is everything you could want from them

boxedjoy, Friday, 10 May 2019 07:15 (eight months ago) link

IT’S GONNA BREAK MY HEART TO SEE IT BLOWN TO BITS

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 10 May 2019 15:15 (eight months ago) link

alfred would like this record. alfred to thread

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 10 May 2019 15:18 (eight months ago) link

guppy is possibly the best power pop album ive ever heard but young enough is just pretty good

ufo, Friday, 10 May 2019 15:20 (eight months ago) link

you were still just a kid
you’re a beautiful boy
crushing cigarettes just to prove a point

^^ my fav part of the title track rn

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 10 May 2019 15:32 (eight months ago) link

"under you" feels like a weak spot strengthened by its placement but otherwise i think i already like young enough (even) more than guppy, what a perfect progression of songs... one that cldn't fit the soft combustibility of something like "glitter", so i'm just glad we have both albums

lowercase (eric), Friday, 10 May 2019 15:45 (eight months ago) link

i do wish it wasn't so in-the-red production-wise

lowercase (eric), Friday, 10 May 2019 15:49 (eight months ago) link

you were still just a kid
you’re a beautiful boy
crushing cigarettes just to prove a point

^^ my fav part of the title track rn

― american bradass (BradNelson)

Yeah, I've had this in my head a lot recently. I think this might be their best song.

kitchen person, Friday, 10 May 2019 16:07 (eight months ago) link

People make some OTT claims for Guppy considering its a pretty great piece of 90s nostalgia and that's about it, but it clearly has a fizz that this one lacks.

The production does the new one no favours, blowing the sound up like this makes everything feel that little bit emptier.

Matt DC, Sunday, 12 May 2019 10:33 (eight months ago) link

Blown To Bits is terrific though.

Matt DC, Sunday, 12 May 2019 10:34 (eight months ago) link

Guppy really was as good as this sort of thing gets for me, a step above all the 90s bands they're drawing so heavily from

ufo, Sunday, 12 May 2019 12:21 (eight months ago) link

oh my god y’all this album is better than guppy

american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 12 May 2019 13:20 (eight months ago) link

i mean i shared y'all's reaction when i first heard "capacity" and "chatroom" but i hear that emptiness as space and atmosphere now, plus these songs are fucking great, i think their songwriting advanced considerably

american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 12 May 2019 14:06 (eight months ago) link

How could I not adore an album whose sound world exists in the space between Hole’s “Awful”, Paramore’s “Daydreaming” and The Yeah Yeah Yeahs’ “Hysteric”?

The title track destroys me.

Tim F, Sunday, 12 May 2019 21:21 (eight months ago) link

otm. also add, i think, some rilo kiley song that didn’t exist before this record (“camera”) and taylor swift’s “clean” (“hurt me”)

american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 12 May 2019 22:20 (eight months ago) link

I need to step away from this album. Wasn't enthralled the first listen and it's been diminishing returns since. Hopefully I'll get something out of it when I revisit it but for now I'm firmly in the fragglerock camp.

Fetchboy, Sunday, 12 May 2019 22:51 (eight months ago) link

oh my god y’all this album is better than guppy

But it so isnt.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 12 May 2019 23:37 (eight months ago) link

I've been thinking a lot of Rilo Kiley when listening to this actually - lyrically the subject matter isnt too far removed from The Execution Of All Things on eg "Capacity", also you can kinda hear how both bands have singers who've come from a performing background and bring that precision of charisma into their performance

It also makes sense because people went off Rilo Kiley when they started realising their mainstream potential too, More Adventurous is the best RK album and also the album where they became more obviously ~refined

boxedjoy, Monday, 13 May 2019 00:41 (eight months ago) link

i mean i shared y'all's reaction when i first heard "capacity" and "chatroom" but i hear that emptiness as space and atmosphere now

yeah in hindsight "capacity" was a great intro to the album bc it in particular continually shades the space w various melodic elements & the reverberating percussive punctures; and like i feel like lesser bands wld've made the chorus of "chatroom" denser, but e.g. the way the guitar seems to shift from reflective shimmer in the chorus to center of accumulation in the bridge w/o changing tone is why it's so satisfying... if guppy feels gaseous young enough is fundamentally solid; the former is maybe more formally memorable but the addition of synths here definitely doesn't feel like just expansion, they illuminate the surfaces the songs glide across (such that the rhythmic steadiness is the point-- see the way the drums build up by switching back mid-bridge on "bleach", the friction at the whim of momentum-- & also why the great pacing is esp notable). idk i think it's really impressive how they're going for something so different while still being recognizably themselves, altho it also means "this is better than that" is a hard sell

lowercase (eric), Monday, 13 May 2019 02:00 (eight months ago) link

the new album does make a couple songs on guppy feel a little aimless to me

lowercase (eric), Monday, 13 May 2019 02:01 (eight months ago) link

(well a softer word than aimless... a little less aimful, in comparison)

lowercase (eric), Monday, 13 May 2019 02:19 (eight months ago) link

this does the same thing the first album did: nice opening run of tracks, then gentle slump into mediocrity

it's decent music but no better imo. if you put the start of this album with the end of the beths album you'd have a decent 90s pop album

it seems insane to claim this is the best pop-rock/powerpop going but instead of providing loads of things i prefer i'll leave you all to it *shrug*

imago, Monday, 13 May 2019 08:25 (eight months ago) link

just provide like 3

alpine static, Monday, 13 May 2019 09:32 (eight months ago) link

speedy ortiz - foil deer for absolute starters

imago, Monday, 13 May 2019 09:33 (eight months ago) link

trust fund - bringing the backline
does mitski count? yes
sad13's solo album
mike krol?

imago, Monday, 13 May 2019 09:41 (eight months ago) link

pup!

imago, Monday, 13 May 2019 09:50 (eight months ago) link

p much all of those records have nothing to do with this one besides being superficially more complicated

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 13 May 2019 11:53 (eight months ago) link

the pup record’s songwriting isn’t this strong

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 13 May 2019 11:54 (eight months ago) link

lol i need to wait til i'm not tired before commenting ig

lowercase (eric), Monday, 13 May 2019 11:58 (eight months ago) link

anyway the only comparison itt that might make me want to listen to something else instead is bc nothing touches taylor swift's best song

lowercase (eric), Monday, 13 May 2019 12:01 (eight months ago) link

lol i was reaching a little for that comparison point. “hurt me” still sounds like a t. swift song though

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 13 May 2019 12:07 (eight months ago) link

Young Enough makes me madder every time I play it. This is the final time. Y'all enjoy, but if anyone says it's objectively better than Guppy I'm cursing your family.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 13 May 2019 14:08 (eight months ago) link

I think this is probably a lot like how I felt about Last Splash vs Pod.

o. nate, Monday, 13 May 2019 14:15 (eight months ago) link

it’s objectively better than guppy

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 13 May 2019 14:29 (eight months ago) link

imagine being mad at this record

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 13 May 2019 14:30 (eight months ago) link

imagine being mad

don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Monday, 13 May 2019 14:54 (eight months ago) link

I definitely do prefer Young Enough to Guppy already. It kind of reminds me of how I felt about the second Japanese Breakfast album (which ended up as my favourite album of 2017). Everything feels so much bolder, especially with how Michelle and Eva get more personal using the music to talk about recent traumatic experiences (Michelle losing her mum and Eva coming out of a terrible relationship). They're both very cathartic and moving records in that way. Even though they both have more polished production, the hooks and songwriting are still very much there and sound like a natural development of what made the debuts so strong. It's no surprise that they're buddies with Michelle directing the Capacity video.

Right now, Young Enough is my album of the year. I really didn't see that coming after the singles and my first couple of plays of the album.

kitchen person, Monday, 13 May 2019 14:56 (eight months ago) link

Charly Bliss aren't very original as a band and probably never will be, but within the borders of the power pop/indie genre they are quite good at what they do.

Maybe the debut is better than the new one, maybe not. The differences aren't that big.It is (and will probably always be for this band) more or less more of the same thing.

nostormo, Monday, 13 May 2019 15:32 (eight months ago) link

one thing is for sure is there is music involved and you can definitely hear it with ears

alpine static, Monday, 13 May 2019 19:26 (eight months ago) link

On first listen, I'm kind of in love with it.

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Monday, 13 May 2019 21:07 (eight months ago) link

No idea if or when I'll prefer this to Guppy but so far loving the hooks, phonetically and otherwise. Shades of Joe Pernice at his "fell over ourselves all summer" peak.

geoffreyess, Monday, 13 May 2019 22:53 (eight months ago) link

the best love songs are about self-abnegation so tbh "Under You" totally rules

don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Monday, 13 May 2019 23:07 (eight months ago) link

think my favourites here are "camera", "chatroom" and "hard to believe", still a really solid & enjoyable album

ufo, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 05:01 (eight months ago) link

couple of spins and this is good, not sure yet if it's better than Guppy but there are some moments that suggest it could be. Title track is gorgeous and heartbreaking, also really liking "Camera" and "Hurt Me".

Roz, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 05:52 (eight months ago) link

oh god, i adore this, hooks are just heart bursting. best compliment i can give is that it's the only thing recently that's managed to tear me away from the go-betweens. these first two records are an incredible feat.

devvvine, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 13:05 (eight months ago) link

i didn't connect with the songs they prereleased individually but i am in love with this album and how it's sequenced. "blown to bits" is an incredible opener.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 16 May 2019 02:53 (eight months ago) link

I've been listening to this on my commutes and it is simply fabulous. Gigantic hooks, smart lyrics, slick production. One of those albums where I'm looking forward to my next chance to crank it.

A. Begrand, Thursday, 16 May 2019 04:01 (eight months ago) link

This feels like a good-to-great pop record that's really hamstrung by the laziness and obviousness of its production choices. Like, I find myself weirdly resentful of the way synths are used on records like this, like they're just there to add ballast and when you get to the end of the record you realise you haven't heard a single interesting or distinctive sound. Everything's blown up to such an extent that the record feels flat rather than big.

Also like a lot of bands who feel more about energy and momentum rather than rhythm it feels like they struggle to keep things interesting when the tempo drops a little bit. Like a song like Young Enough could really work with a different approach but it feels like a big stadium song that's constructed in the way that you might build a wall, just thudding and leaden and predictable.

Matt DC, Saturday, 18 May 2019 14:34 (eight months ago) link

^

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 18 May 2019 14:35 (eight months ago) link

yeah I can agree with that

ufo, Saturday, 18 May 2019 14:45 (eight months ago) link

I think I agree with that too. Great songs, so-so sound.

Simon H., Saturday, 18 May 2019 14:58 (eight months ago) link

I thought the production on this was good and suited the songs.

o. nate, Sunday, 19 May 2019 01:56 (eight months ago) link

i guess this really illuminates what kind of a music / Charly Bliss fan I am, but i think "Hard to Believe" is my favorite song here

alpine static, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 23:47 (eight months ago) link

and i love the rest of it

but

that chorus

alpine static, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 23:50 (eight months ago) link

Agreed. I think the last indie band that could write choruses like this was the New Pornographers, but I don’t think even they ever had so many good ones on one album.

o. nate, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 01:31 (eight months ago) link

I like a lot about the new album, but there are too many instances of the campfire indie stomp thing (more than zero). Every time it crops up it takes me out of the song.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 15:30 (eight months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNneb7pj3n8

adam, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 16:39 (eight months ago) link

i posted something like this in the Weyes Blood thread to crickets, but...

anyone hear the quick wrong note in "Hard to Believe" at 2:06/07? love that kind of stuff.

i can't stop listening to this song.

alpine static, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 22:02 (eight months ago) link

someone actually commissioned kay hanley to review the record, which is perfect https://www.talkhouse.com/charly-bliss-flirts-with-the-brutal-truth/

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 31 May 2019 14:46 (seven months ago) link

I don’t know how to review an album. It’s too much responsibility. Why did I agree to this? Argh.

lmao relatable

i love this

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 31 May 2019 14:50 (seven months ago) link

Caught their show last night at the Beachland Ballroom in Cleveland, and man was it great. This was their first time playing the big room -- they've played the much smaller adjacent tavern before -- and the energy onstage was just unbelievable. Definitely one of the best shows I've seen in the last 10 years or so. The interplay between Eva, Spencer and Dan is so energetic and infectious it's impossible to stand still while you're watching them. Can't remember the whole set list (I'm gonna be 50, gimme a break) but it included

Blown to Bits
Percolator
Ruby
Hard to Believe
Heaven
Chatroom
DQ
Black Hole
Young Enough

and five or so others. And they closed with an encore of "Mr. Brightside" by The Killers.

(I just realized last night that Eva said her first big inspiration for learning to write songs was Rilo Kiley, and both bands have former child actors in them.)

A couple of phone pics I snapped:

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/62315899_369167847286633_7547021008163569664_o.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_eui2=AeF-BxRmW1Vn9CTRT2cG6w-3dSpJs1NuzK2zogD8HE6ThFJ30bYMxAK9YI41flIA4wJIPO9NfMOgFa2imSog3JM09lTC4K29PB5IiYzBDv87aQ&_nc_oc=AQkVjNaZSh5kgY5d9npRAYO98Vx_dJxryOSo67L6MpnFJu0JEJkZXRJKXWmvMuv8yE45-qY3jS-Ry9WdTgOg8EX6&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-1.xx&oh=49486b925ab34df67e4dea3452900bf3&oe=5D9A2D53

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https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/62239347_369167960619955_6306320813091979264_o.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_eui2=AeGWva-Z_AG6tfTBmFQPbxM3SWLq5nprIZceR6pBIpJ_Zt8rslzUyoANdTakaCYjJA8-Q_RiKjcDd6_t8p27zQMvZc51IicxRBkn3E17RygygA&_nc_oc=AQkHDObdRKpkp6_XIcqJAFwq_vSfGQW1BfIL6zuhGaYxF5Kc4YiSuWiiQYdLc3yQoYeTgbuiZbUVw6nPSGcBTnfN&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-1.xx&oh=168d6577f85fdb5dc31528f2d9c3bb35&oe=5D9D3266

aw i love those photos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwszMAktc-M

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 17:28 (seven months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Christgau's take: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/a3xqmj/robert-christgau-reviews-charly-bliss-young-enough

He mostly likes it except (typically) wishes it was a bit more political and not so bougie.

o. nate, Sunday, 30 June 2019 02:41 (six months ago) link

one month passes...

hey so just to check in we now all agree that the new one fucking owns right? good

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Friday, 2 August 2019 16:16 (five months ago) link

Nah, still hate it.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 August 2019 16:17 (five months ago) link

what's the irish phrase? git tae fuck?

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Friday, 2 August 2019 16:17 (five months ago) link

I've made peace with the fact they don't owe me another album that hits me the way Guppy did, so y'all enjoy.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 August 2019 16:19 (five months ago) link

I'm a sucker for albums about bad relationships tbqh

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Friday, 2 August 2019 16:20 (five months ago) link

I can't fault them for changing things up a bit, because they're still exceedingly competent about it. It's just not my particular bag. otoh the other big disappointment I had this year (Marina's album) comes down entirely to the fact she's become incredibly timid in her musical expression and the result is devoid of personality and risk. Charly Bliss didn't get shy. They just got more polished.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 August 2019 16:25 (five months ago) link

Not a day goes by that "Capacity" isn't playing in my head at some point. And also usually "Camera."

"Under You" gets me right in the pit of my self-abnegating heart

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Friday, 2 August 2019 16:27 (five months ago) link

I'm pretty far removed from feeling relationship shit deeply at this point (I haven't so much as dated since 2012), so nothing about love and loss hooks me to the degree it might have in the past.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 August 2019 16:36 (five months ago) link

interesting -- not that the songs aren't about that but I wouldn't call charly bliss's core appeal their being about deep relationship shit

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 2 August 2019 16:55 (five months ago) link

You're right. Not saying they really go spelunking into the deep, but silby's apparently taking that away from listens to the album.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 August 2019 16:57 (five months ago) link

did I say deep?

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Friday, 2 August 2019 16:58 (five months ago) link

"pit of my self-abnegating heart" insinuated as much. Ignore me, though!

Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 August 2019 17:01 (five months ago) link

The whole of this exchange is very low stakes for me, and I'm really just basing all my objections on the synths lol

Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 August 2019 17:03 (five months ago) link

I mean I think it's high-impact, like cf. the two most romantic things I've seen in the movies lately are Max giving blood to Furiosa and the consensual mushroom poisoning in Phantom Thread if that gives you a sense of my brain I don't know if I think it's deep

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Friday, 2 August 2019 17:08 (five months ago) link

the synths are good they're like woomwoomwoom and then on other songs the guitars are like grangrangrang

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Friday, 2 August 2019 17:08 (five months ago) link

I normally don't post on ILM lol but something like one album per year totally wrecks me and this year it's this one so I wanna yell about it

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Friday, 2 August 2019 17:09 (five months ago) link

Go off! I'm glad people still have that energy. I don't anymore, even if I'm totally into something. I've only posted a couple times on the Meernaa thread, and that's my clear 2019 fave.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 August 2019 17:16 (five months ago) link

oh I meant, the core appeal seems to me like the hooks, where basically anything could be sung over them and it'd still be great; the lyrics are a bonus

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 2 August 2019 20:39 (five months ago) link

find it impossible to think of the lyrics as a "bonus" in an album like this but the world is full of different kinds of people and that's great

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Friday, 2 August 2019 20:57 (five months ago) link

at first i was indifferent, but this is a grower it seems

nostormo, Saturday, 3 August 2019 08:17 (five months ago) link

Saw 'em in Sydney a couple of weeks back, and they were great. Feel like the newer songs have more of a kick live with a higher tempo and less emphasis on the synths. They really just sounded more like Guppy songs, and for the better. Anyway, they had great energy and seemed like they were having lots of fun.

Mr. Brightside cover was cool.

triggercut, Saturday, 3 August 2019 09:23 (five months ago) link

I have to admit that I've warmed up to it (some more) in the last months. Now it's... fine.
But yes, as Johnny Fever said, they don't owe me a Guppy 2 and that's perfectly okay.
By now I'm just glad that this seems to be enjoyed by a lot of people.

fragglerock, Sunday, 4 August 2019 13:08 (five months ago) link

two months pass...

new ep! https://charlybliss.bandcamp.com/album/supermoon

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 14:33 (two months ago) link

lovely news! still going back to young enough pretty regularly

devvvine, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 14:34 (two months ago) link

and to drop it on a rare occasion i can listen at work, so thoughtful!

devvvine, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 14:35 (two months ago) link

fans of guppy who couldn't get down with the new lp: idk, seems like this is for you

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 14:38 (two months ago) link

how do they write so many good songs

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 14:38 (two months ago) link

was mid supermoon and came to post the same thing

devvvine, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 14:41 (two months ago) link

Niiiice!

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:15 (two months ago) link

Holy shit @ "Threat." I'm constantly wrestling with whether or not I was that guy in my youth, and I don't think I was to that degree, but I feel this in my bones.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:33 (two months ago) link

This new E.P sounds somewhat like a bunch of Demos. Everything is quite basic, thin and...boring :(

nostormo, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 18:53 (two months ago) link

"heaven" giving me breeders vibes.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 19:21 (two months ago) link

these songs are all pretty good except for "supermoon"

ufo, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 20:29 (two months ago) link

ended their set tonight with a dancing on my own cover

devvvine, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 23:11 (two months ago) link

best band in the world

devvvine, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 23:11 (two months ago) link

ended their set tonight with a dancing on my own cover

― devvvine, Wednesday, November 6, 2019 3:11 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

inject it into my veins

josh az (2011nostalgia), Thursday, 7 November 2019 03:36 (two months ago) link

and yeah, the new EP is so-so but Supermoon and Heaven are great

josh az (2011nostalgia), Thursday, 7 November 2019 03:37 (two months ago) link


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