Have I got long players for you!
Yes.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 January 2015 15:07 (nine years ago) link
Albums playlist at Spotify
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 January 2015 15:08 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/zxPyngW.jpg
77 BABYMETAL Babymetal [236 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote]
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 January 2015 15:11 (nine years ago) link
haha perfect
― ear sirrom (imago), Monday, 26 January 2015 15:11 (nine years ago) link
man troll gas beany jim-jam
― ciderpress, Monday, 26 January 2015 15:12 (nine years ago) link
I liked 'Gimme Chocolate' well enough but not sure I have the stamina for a whole album tbh
― pandemic, Monday, 26 January 2015 15:13 (nine years ago) link
Is it actually metal, or is that name "ironic"?
― Tuomas, Monday, 26 January 2015 15:13 (nine years ago) link
Iconic start!
― tangenttangent, Monday, 26 January 2015 15:13 (nine years ago) link
k-pop female vocals over rock (based on gimme chocolate the rest may be different)xp
― pandemic, Monday, 26 January 2015 15:15 (nine years ago) link
why 77 for albums & tracks?
― campreverb, Monday, 26 January 2015 15:16 (nine years ago) link
77 is a sacred number on this forum
― ciderpress, Monday, 26 January 2015 15:17 (nine years ago) link
okay 'line' has some metal growling backing vox going on
― pandemic, Monday, 26 January 2015 15:17 (nine years ago) link
it's metal + j-pop, more or less
― ciderpress, Monday, 26 January 2015 15:18 (nine years ago) link
8 votes w roughly 30 points per vote is not a huge hurdle to clear
― YES TYPE all your albums ballot out and post them here (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 26 January 2015 15:19 (nine years ago) link
I half-feel like seeing the rest of the rollout will spoil the perfectness of Babymetal being the first album revealed on the countdown
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Monday, 26 January 2015 15:21 (nine years ago) link
(btw I stand by "perfectness")
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Monday, 26 January 2015 15:22 (nine years ago) link
a low hurdle...for Menace Ruine!
If you like your female-sung metal actually written by a woman, that is ;)
― ear sirrom (imago), Monday, 26 January 2015 15:23 (nine years ago) link
77 is the number of times Tom Ewing chanted "rockism" in front of a mirror to wish ILX into existence.
― Tuomas, Monday, 26 January 2015 15:23 (nine years ago) link
This is p cool obv, listening now :)
haha this is so ilm
― Get Ducked (Cosmic Slop), Monday, 26 January 2015 15:24 (nine years ago) link
BABYMETAL, yes! Gimme Chocolate is not representative of the whole album (and imo is one of the weaker tracks). I agree it's not a records you can digest easily all in one go, rather like a 1LB chocolate bar in fact. Great in small doses though.
― Jeff W, Monday, 26 January 2015 15:26 (nine years ago) link
dun get baby metal. sounds like the internet.
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Monday, 26 January 2015 15:26 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsBF_QLDK6w
― Get Ducked (Cosmic Slop), Monday, 26 January 2015 15:26 (nine years ago) link
Isn't this the band that Marty Friedman is the music director for or something? I just remember seeing him and Paul Gilbert together for that Cacophony album in guitar magazine ads back in the 80s. (I know he went on to play in Megadeth, but I'd already stopped listening to them by the time he got there.)
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 January 2015 15:28 (nine years ago) link
There's a fun novelty aspect to Gimme Chocolate I guess, but I can't say I'm really enjoying this.
― silverfish, Monday, 26 January 2015 15:28 (nine years ago) link
no, he does a different band
― Get Ducked (Cosmic Slop), Monday, 26 January 2015 15:28 (nine years ago) link
can we have youtubes be linked and not embedded in this thread? otherwise it gets more and more taxing to load as it expands
― ciderpress, Monday, 26 January 2015 15:29 (nine years ago) link
yes plz
― sleeve, Monday, 26 January 2015 15:29 (nine years ago) link
Gimme Chocolate just missed the top 77 tracks (84)
― gr8080, Monday, 26 January 2015 15:30 (nine years ago) link
Surprisingly good album the Babymetal one. Doki Doki Morning still rules 3 years on.
― All The Craigers Gonna Craig Craig Craig Craig Craig (Craigo Boingo), Monday, 26 January 2015 15:30 (nine years ago) link
This other track I'm listening to now, Megitsune, is much better
― silverfish, Monday, 26 January 2015 15:31 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/esEEHHs.jpg
76 CHER LLOYD Sorry I'm Late [239 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 January 2015 15:36 (nine years ago) link
i liked the album but i just didn't feel compelled to revisit it when i was putting together my EOY lists
― diddybops 67 (120.2)(source field mix) (some dude), Monday, 26 January 2015 15:37 (nine years ago) link
BABYMETAL is better than this
― silverfish, Monday, 26 January 2015 15:41 (nine years ago) link
Wow, shocked but delighted to see Cher Lloyd make it. Such a shame what a flop this album was, lots of potential hit singles just wasted.
― Kitchen Person, Monday, 26 January 2015 15:43 (nine years ago) link
CL in the 40s on my EOY list. Bought the CD on the strength of stanning here. Not as likeable as her debut, but s'alright.
― Jeff W, Monday, 26 January 2015 15:43 (nine years ago) link
Thought it was a lot better than her debut even though there isn't anything as amazing as Superhero on there.
― Kitchen Person, Monday, 26 January 2015 15:44 (nine years ago) link
Need beta blockers to listen to BABYMETAL while working.
Cher Lloyd looks dreadfully ill/existentially null. What's the best/most representational track from this album?
― tangenttangent, Monday, 26 January 2015 15:46 (nine years ago) link
babymetal - the first i heard of this band was when a civil servant friend who gets more drunk than almost anyone i know casually mentioned them. i'm intrigued by the concept despite metal not being for me (not even kitty), will probably check this out when i'm not in a café
cher lloyd - YESSSSS so happy this snuck in. it's been noted a lot that pop discourse in 2014 increasingly seemed to only revolve around the same 5 names over and over again, and non-megastar pop artists feel like they're all in limbo to an extent - this vicious cycle of their irrelevance making them irrelevant in a lot of critics' eyes, their music having nothing to do with any of it.
cher lloyd has surprised me several times in her career - her sugary bubblegum debut had nothing to do with the hard-ass swagon lightning bolt i first loved on the x factor and this depressed, despairing album of emo ballads (leavened with a few bratty party songs, sure) has nothing to do with either (i guess you could link it back to her x factor cover of "stay"). she sounds so weary on it all - "human" is a highlight here - and even though hardly anyone bought it and no critics cared, it was an album i kept returning to in 2014
― lex pretend, Monday, 26 January 2015 15:47 (nine years ago) link
also, "sweet despair" co-written with beth ditto, and "bind your love" as an example of a non-downer.
i thought this album was leagues better than the actual crowning-a-new-megastarlet move of ariana grande's second album
― lex pretend, Monday, 26 January 2015 15:50 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, Bind Your Love is the one I'd go with. Should have been the third single (She didn't even make it to a third single)
― Kitchen Person, Monday, 26 January 2015 15:51 (nine years ago) link
lex this music is definitely not for me, but I really appreciate you putting this album into context
― sleeve, Monday, 26 January 2015 15:52 (nine years ago) link
― lex pretend, Monday, January 26, 2015 10:50 AM (59 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
that i will agree with
― diddybops 67 (120.2)(source field mix) (some dude), Monday, 26 January 2015 15:52 (nine years ago) link
yeah i made the comparison bc more than once that opinion has been scoffed at as just unthinkable because ariana sold a shit ton of records so how could cher lloyd possibly have made a better album
― lex pretend, Monday, 26 January 2015 15:53 (nine years ago) link
The main thing I get from Ariana Grande is an overwhelming desire to apologize to Toni Braxton and Anita Baker for ever saying they didn't enunciate enough.
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Monday, 26 January 2015 15:56 (nine years ago) link
oooh what’s WRONG with you / no the problem is not my ATTitude / but you’re EW / just not my type / and the next time I won’t be so polite!!!!!!!!!!
and "alone with me" being the best closing song of all time <3
album's like 70 positions too low
― uberweiss, Monday, 26 January 2015 15:57 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/85lDQkc.jpg
75 MICA LEVI Under the Skin: Original Motion Picture Soundtrack [242 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 January 2015 16:01 (nine years ago) link
Is that the first film soundtrack ever to have placed?
― Matt DC, Monday, 26 January 2015 16:02 (nine years ago) link
listening to cher lloyd, really digging "bind your love"
wooooo under the skin!
― i'm tellin you it was kenard (slothroprhymes), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:03 (nine years ago) link
Mica (chu) is one of my favourite musicians currently operational and everything she* touches turns to sonic ecstasy, including that recent Feeling Romantic...mixtape she* did. Haven't heard this yet as I'm waiting to see the film. Soon, though. I'm sure this is fucking brilliant.
*not sure which gender pronoun Mica is currently using so correct me if this is wrong! :)
― ear sirrom (imago), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:04 (nine years ago) link
A surprise, but we all seem to have loved the kubrickian/tarkovskian film. Eerie drones and thumps leavened with strident insistent string motifs, but stands surprisingly well outside the films context. Particularly on Halloween.
Does anyone have an opinion on: Micachu & The Shapes & London Sinfonietta - Chopped and Screwed (2011)?
― excreting zeitgeist (Sanpaku), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:07 (nine years ago) link
Mica is the only one so far I've seen perform a Cornelius Cardew graphic score.
― All The Craigers Gonna Craig Craig Craig Craig Craig (Craigo Boingo), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:07 (nine years ago) link
― lex pretend, Monday, 26 January 2015 15:50 (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This isn't something I'd usually listen to, but 'Bind Your Love' has a certain woozily infectious appeal. For me to like this a lot would require a significant increase on the emo component. As in, actual blood spilled.
Under the Skin! Best film and film soundtrack of 2014 perhaps...
― tangenttangent, Monday, 26 January 2015 16:07 (nine years ago) link
...including that recent Feeling Romantic...mixtape she* did.
― ear sirrom (imago), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:04 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah, that was wonderful!
― tangenttangent, Monday, 26 January 2015 16:09 (nine years ago) link
Also of note, Levi just joined the reborn BBC Radiophonic Workshop, lead by Matthew Herbert, so this won't be the last we hear of her(?).
― excreting zeitgeist (Sanpaku), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:10 (nine years ago) link
Yeah I should check this out. Mica's great! I hope she continues to do stuff with the Shapes as well
― YES TYPE all your albums ballot out and post them here (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:11 (nine years ago) link
wow, nice the see the under the skin s/t place! especially brilliant in context, but a fascinating listen on its own.
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:11 (nine years ago) link
I've only heard bits of this but I like the Feeling Romantic Feeling Ill record. didn't think this was how she'd evolve
― Dan S, Monday, 26 January 2015 16:14 (nine years ago) link
loved this. didn't vote for it.
― gr8080, Monday, 26 January 2015 16:14 (nine years ago) link
I've been meaning to watch this movie. It's on my netflix list. I'm going to wait until I've seen the movie before listening to the soundtrack.
― silverfish, Monday, 26 January 2015 16:14 (nine years ago) link
i really hated the shapes album i heard, really awful. Is this much better?
― Get Ducked (Cosmic Slop), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:15 (nine years ago) link
I wasn't that into the shapes either but I love this (I also really like the chopped & screwed album mentioned above)
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:16 (nine years ago) link
Need to listen to Under the Skin on its own, loved the music in the context of the film.
― Gavin, Leeds, Monday, 26 January 2015 16:20 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/jD8Xcla.jpg
74 NOURA MINT SEYMALI Tzenni [243 points, 8 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 January 2015 16:22 (nine years ago) link
mice
― sleeve, Monday, 26 January 2015 16:24 (nine years ago) link
uh I mean "nice"
mice.
― Matt DC, Monday, 26 January 2015 16:24 (nine years ago) link
this looks interesting!
― Get Ducked (Cosmic Slop), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:27 (nine years ago) link
Great stuff so far. Have heard exactly none of these albums. Only found out about Babymetal the other day and it looks fun.
― quinoa: how's it spelt? (dog latin), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:29 (nine years ago) link
whoa, mice
― ciderpress, Monday, 26 January 2015 16:31 (nine years ago) link
yeah that's hairy mice indeed
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:32 (nine years ago) link
haha i hate babymetal but i am so happy to see them kick off this poll i cant even
― a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:33 (nine years ago) link
For those seeking to get closer to the roots here (without the flanged guitar and drum kit) seek out: Khalifa Ould Eide & Dimi Mint Abba - Moorish Music from Mauritania (1990). I'd love to discover Noura is one of Dimi's daughters on that cover, but I doubt it.
― excreting zeitgeist (Sanpaku), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:33 (nine years ago) link
SHE IS! Dimi Mint Abba is her step-mother.
― excreting zeitgeist (Sanpaku), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:34 (nine years ago) link
http://petattack.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/talented_mice_10.jpg
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:35 (nine years ago) link
Mordy pressed this onto me n let's say I was quite IMpressed
― ear sirrom (imago), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:37 (nine years ago) link
this is terrific so far
― Get Ducked (Cosmic Slop), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:39 (nine years ago) link
So is this a rockier version of traditional Mauritanian music then?
― Matt DC, Monday, 26 January 2015 16:40 (nine years ago) link
The psych-funk version, yes.
― excreting zeitgeist (Sanpaku), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:40 (nine years ago) link
This poll is exceeding expectations after the (relatively) narrow remit of the tracks poll. Already we've had Japanese idol/metal crossover, ambient soundtrack music, UK pop and outernationalism and we've only just started. Brill!
― quinoa: how's it spelt? (dog latin), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:40 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/9neQ0lu.jpg
― gr8080, Monday, 26 January 2015 16:44 (nine years ago) link
lol
― ear sirrom (imago), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:44 (nine years ago) link
yay seymali
― Mordy, Monday, 26 January 2015 16:44 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/WHq5fdg.jpg
73 REAL ESTATE Atlas [254 points, 9 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 January 2015 16:45 (nine years ago) link
INDIE
― gr8080, Monday, 26 January 2015 16:46 (nine years ago) link
Alt-ass, morelike
― how's life, Monday, 26 January 2015 16:46 (nine years ago) link
Mica! My #1. When Jonny Trunk played the whole s/t on his Resonance fm show near the start of the year was a transcendent 2014 moment for me. After that, what was going to top my albums list was NID. Works really well in the context of the movie too.
― Jeff W, Monday, 26 January 2015 16:47 (nine years ago) link
is this just an audiobook of real estate listings or what
― diddybops 67 (120.2)(source field mix) (some dude), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:47 (nine years ago) link
lol gr80 beat me to it
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:47 (nine years ago) link
Aaww sweet little indie album. Talking Backwards is quite lovely!
― tangenttangent, Monday, 26 January 2015 16:47 (nine years ago) link
The Noura Mint Seymali is spectacularly great imo! My #2. Best non-metal guitar rock album I've heard in ages.
I really liked the Under the Skin score in the context of the movie but have not yet listened to the score on its own.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:47 (nine years ago) link
This feels like I was listening to it longer ago than this year.
Real Estate are like WoD, but at least not hyped beyond their worth. They make for pleasant background listening; almost ambient indie music. Great for summer days, breezy afternoon picnics in the grass, melty plastic watchstraps, ant infestations, oily-looking ham slices...
― quinoa: how's it spelt? (dog latin), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:48 (nine years ago) link
damn if this is placing this low i p much have no hope of seeing Horsebeach place.
If you feel like a gothy balearic Real Estate sounds nice check out Horsebeach
― gr8080, Monday, 26 January 2015 16:48 (nine years ago) link
don't you mean Beach Horse?
― quinoa: how's it spelt? (dog latin), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:49 (nine years ago) link
;-)
Ohh so nice that Under the Skin placed! Love hearing that while driving at night.
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:50 (nine years ago) link
Indie that i like! Love Real Estate. Loving the poll so far
― Get Ducked (Cosmic Slop), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:51 (nine years ago) link
"well, we were sort of going for the vibe of an oily-looking ham slice."
"more than one. like slices, actually. oily-looking ham slices.
"yeah, slices. i should have said slices."
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:51 (nine years ago) link
babymetal is really interesting because it's 100% legitimate j-pop vocals over commensurably legitimate metal. getting that to work as well as it does is probably pretty challenging.
re: real estate, "They make for pleasant background listening; almost ambient indie music" – OTM. i can't really remember this album but i know i didn't mind it, and their first one still has an alluring haze to it (and the end of "beach comber" is a double rainbow).
― soyrev, Monday, 26 January 2015 16:52 (nine years ago) link
also i love this gradual result rollout, if it weren't 2am in seoul i'd be here all day
― soyrev, Monday, 26 January 2015 16:53 (nine years ago) link
i do like this album tho, pretty good album. didn't vote for it.
― gr8080, Monday, 26 January 2015 16:53 (nine years ago) link
I cut it off my ballot I think to make 25 so im really pleased it made it.
― Get Ducked (Cosmic Slop), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:54 (nine years ago) link
((and to clarify, by 'j-pop vocals' i don't mean poppy vocals sung in japanese, i'm referring to the composition of the melody lines as much as their performance/production))
― soyrev, Monday, 26 January 2015 16:54 (nine years ago) link
preferred Ducktails to Real Estate, but I don't mind this at all
― sleeve, Monday, 26 January 2015 16:54 (nine years ago) link
I have to say, nothing makes me more interested in checking out a band than finding out they make music for the contemplation of oily ham
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:54 (nine years ago) link
re: Mica Levi - why does it always always has to be: psychotic blah blah = pull out yer neighbourhood avant-classical type moves out of the bag. Probably the weakest part of that film.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 26 January 2015 16:55 (nine years ago) link
this noura mint seymali is great, thanks to whoever voted for it!
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:56 (nine years ago) link
Mauritanian psych-funk sounds fun. As does ambient indie to be fair. Will give them both a go.
― Jeff W, Monday, 26 January 2015 16:57 (nine years ago) link
"fake blues" from some early real estate single is still one of my very favorite 3-4 min of chillout indie ever. have opined elsewhere that it seems to be ripping off mark knopfler's local hero sndtrk (in a good way). experienced diminishing returns with the band tho.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHx8ZhYsigQ
^ album version not quite as good
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:57 (nine years ago) link
sorry, meant for that to be a link :(
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:58 (nine years ago) link
digging the Real Estate. thanks ILM!
― example (crüt), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:58 (nine years ago) link
i didn't vote this year but i am going to follow thread because these results are more promising than the singles for melove under the skin sdtk, big fave in my houselove noura too -- she makes it sound so easy and this reminds me that i wanted to hear the album
― groundless round (La Lechera), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:58 (nine years ago) link
the last real estate album is one of my fav indie rock records ever but i couldn't get into this one at all
― J0rdan S., Monday, 26 January 2015 16:59 (nine years ago) link
Xyzzz__: why not? Those sounds work well to bring out that atmosphere. At least it's more interesting than minor-key piano arpeggios or something.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:00 (nine years ago) link
uh, whether or not there were any actual mice involved, this noura mint seymali album is fantastic
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:03 (nine years ago) link
Nooo, I missed the moment Babymetal hit, I was praying for this. It feels weird finally having a vote place right inside the top 77 and not outside. This is definitely the best Babymetal song, here performed in front of 60k people.. in England! http://youtu.be/jKs7JnAWI9s
― abcfsk, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:05 (nine years ago) link
Love the Real Estate album, and it was quite high up on my ballot. It's everything I want from an "indie" album right now - clear, chiming, blissful. I think they just keep getting better.
Loving this Noura Mint Seymali album too.
― Modern French Music from Failure to Boulez (askance johnson), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:05 (nine years ago) link
I agree they do Sund4r. I suppose I'd like to hear those sounds in more surprising contexts these days. A bit of an easy option to take. xps
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:06 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/bQyox4f.jpg
72 CALL SUPER Suzi Ecto [255 points, 11 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:07 (nine years ago) link
looks like an abstract magen dovid on the cover
― Mordy, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:07 (nine years ago) link
yay call super!
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:08 (nine years ago) link
― xyzzzz__, Monday, January 26, 2015 9:06 AM (3 seconds ago)
oh pooh. everything's an easy option. the execution's what counts. impeccably well constructed soundtrack, both as a functional component of the film and as a stand-alone listen. it sound more "surprising" a kristen wiig comedy sure, but i'm not that desperate for novelty thrills.
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:09 (nine years ago) link
Huh, really fun start to the albums list. Babymetal!
Will they change the band name to Toddlermetal or Teenmetal as they get older? Or swap out the members?
― octobeard, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:10 (nine years ago) link
no spotify links this year?
― Get Ducked (Cosmic Slop), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:11 (nine years ago) link
There's a whole playlist linked at the top of the thread.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:11 (nine years ago) link
never heard of this Call Super record, very nice on first listen - I assume there's no vocals?
― sleeve, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:12 (nine years ago) link
Or swap out the members?
how it's done iirc
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:12 (nine years ago) link
This album cover promises fuzzy artpop...
― tangenttangent, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link
yeah do these images come with blurbs or no1-2 objective descriptive sentences or phrases?
― groundless round (La Lechera), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:14 (nine years ago) link
Happy that Real Estate placed. They have a special way with melody.
― quan voice (voodoo chili), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link
i prefer the mystery & intrigue
― ciderpress, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link
Blurbs haven't been part of the eoy polls for several years, but a quick search turned up a few mentions of Call Super in techno/bobbins threads.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link
oh pooh. everything's an easy option. the execution's what counts. impeccably well constructed soundtrack, both as a functional component of the film and as a stand-alone listen. it sound more "surprising" a kristen wiig comedy sure, but i'm not that desperate for novelty thrills.― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Monday, 26 January 2015 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Monday, 26 January 2015 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Don't be an idiot - of course not everything is an easy option and no I am looking for this stuff to be used in a comedy or anything. Its their problem to sort out. I just know what they've come up with just isn't really going to do.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:16 (nine years ago) link
xpI prefer not knowing what the hell kind of music it is immediately when I've never heard of something (as is true of Call Super). Part of the fun!
― Jeff W, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:16 (nine years ago) link
not feeling the real estate. think their sound worked better for me when it was fuzzing in through chillwave-contemporaneous vhs nostalgia, buried vocals, tape hiss, etc.
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:18 (nine years ago) link
I suppose I'd like to hear those sounds in more surprising contexts these days. A bit of an easy option to take. xps
― xyzzzz__, Monday, January 26, 2015 9:06 AM (11 minutes ago)
"i don't like this and want to seem important saying it"
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:19 (nine years ago) link
Suzi Ecto was definitely one of the more interesting electronic albums this year, and very accessible
― Dan S, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:19 (nine years ago) link
Crystalline clearwater ambience embroiled in benign laser warfare.
This is oooookay.
― tangenttangent, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:20 (nine years ago) link
call super is kind of techno with a fuggy cloud-forest vibe and maybe a bit more focus on sonic detail than beats
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:20 (nine years ago) link
The Call Super album is fantastic and I have Lex to thank for recommending it on more than one occasion.it seems to take on different properties depending on where and who I listen to it with. Sometimes it's a really lush ambient album with dub inflections, other times it's something a lot more tense/intense than that.
― quinoa: how's it spelt? (dog latin), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:20 (nine years ago) link
this sounds like something i would like a lot, whoops
― ciderpress, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:21 (nine years ago) link
I somehow missed that Call Super album entirely, will give it a spin tonight.
― Matt DC, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:21 (nine years ago) link
I feel I am gaining a good bit of internet notoriety in this msg board by damming it, yes..xps to contend idiot.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:21 (nine years ago) link
ok nm then! i'll guess
― groundless round (La Lechera), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:23 (nine years ago) link
contend idiot.
lol, you've sure got a way with words
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:24 (nine years ago) link
la lechera, i think the idea is that fans of whatever record will chip in and explain/enthuse xp
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:24 (nine years ago) link
lol I couldn't remember how the rest of it went, couldn't be arsed to press back. The only thing you are right about.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:25 (nine years ago) link
I am gaining a good bit of internet notoriety in this msg board by damming itFirst mice, now beavers itt!
We heart u really Julio, u know that.
― Jeff W, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:26 (nine years ago) link
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Monday, January 26, 2015 12:19 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i don't even totally understand this convo but wow this came off dickish!
― diddybops 67 (120.2)(source field mix) (some dude), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:27 (nine years ago) link
Cool list so far. I haven't heard any of most of these, but they all look interesting.
Very pleased BM made it.
― jmm, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:27 (nine years ago) link
do like the call super album quite a bit, though it's well outside my usual wheelhouse. can't comment on dog latin's observation that it takes "on different properties depending on where and who" cuz it's new to me, but "dovetail" gets a lot of mileage out of the tension between that metallic snare and the pillowy synth clouds it drills against. loving "sulu sekou"'s clarinet, too.
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:31 (nine years ago) link
mica levi - surprised in a good way to see this; one of the best films i saw last year, and one of the best uses of its score within that. the strings in the pool scenes...not just sinister but stately. the film's slow pace suited it, but the score went a long way to holding interest which might have otherwise flagged. i have not been tempted to hear the soundtrack by itself.
nora mint seymali - never heard, would be interested to hear, any track recommendations?
real estate - never heard and god willing will keep it that way
call super - woo, second of my votes. love the mood and the way different details dapple over the beats. very organic-sounding - not as hermetically sealed as voices from the lake but a similar vibe. also, wonderfully generous melodically. not an album for identifying tracks in isolation and the quality is very consistent but "dovetail" and "hoax eye" are both very pretty indeed
call super also did good work under the ondo fudd alias last year too
― lex pretend, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:31 (nine years ago) link
Moreso than the singles thread I'm inclined to actually seek out some of these winners
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:32 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/nNAdhJK.jpg
71 STURGILL SIMPSON Metamoden Sounds in Country Music [256 points, 10 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:32 (nine years ago) link
― diddybops 67 (120.2)(source field mix) (some dude), Monday, January 26, 2015 9:27 AM (4 minutes ago]
you missed a couple steps in there, but mea culpa, retracting
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:35 (nine years ago) link
i discovered this sturgill simpson album via critics' year-end lists. i've been enjoying it in a low-key way, i like the gravitas of his voice though his enunciation is on ariana grande levels of non-existence. don't think it's on the level of the post-miranda lambert wave of female country artists though, doesn't grab me emotionally in the same way
― lex pretend, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:36 (nine years ago) link
I've heard of this. Is the title ironic or something?
― quinoa: how's it spelt? (dog latin), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:36 (nine years ago) link
(i'm quite happy that miranda lambert, almost certainly, and angaleena presley, i hope and expect, will have beaten simpson here)
i enjoyed the couple tracks i've heard from this record, will listen in full at some point
― ciderpress, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:37 (nine years ago) link
― quinoa: how's it spelt? (dog latin), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:36 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Must be. This makes my eyes hurt.
― tangenttangent, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:38 (nine years ago) link
Saw Sturgill Simpson open for Willie Nelson at the end of December. His band had a lot of power and energy, especially the lead guitarist who cranked out continuous hot doggin' riffs through the whole set. Good stuff, I'll have to at least give this a listen.
― Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:38 (nine years ago) link
even though im sure this is a lot of people's "one critic-influenced [country/metal/insert oft-maligned-to-varying-degrees genre or subgenre here}" album, goddamn it's great
― i'm tellin you it was kenard (slothroprhymes), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:39 (nine years ago) link
People kept telling me about this and I kept not getting why. And yeah that goddamn title
― ear sirrom (imago), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:40 (nine years ago) link
Hoping now we have had the token metal,indie and country to appease their fans and prove how oh so eclectic we are and theres no more sp we can have more pop, rnb, rap, bobbins type music like the mostly excellent tracks poll.
― strychnine, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link
i need to give this a listen on cruts recommendation
― Get Ducked (Cosmic Slop), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link
strychnine soubds like a good name for a thrash metal band
― quinoa: how's it spelt? (dog latin), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:43 (nine years ago) link
This is a damn fine record.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:44 (nine years ago) link
http://www.3chorddorks.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/front_page_comic_preset/images/comics/544.png
― dogs, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:45 (nine years ago) link
good dogs
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:46 (nine years ago) link
I mean, if you're into neo-trad country and people like Justin Townes Earle and Ryan Bingham let you down every time by missing the mark, then this is a must-hear album.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:47 (nine years ago) link
xps to dog latin there are multiple bands named strychnine after a cursory google search - sadly, none of them seem to be thrash metal
― i'm tellin you it was kenard (slothroprhymes), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:47 (nine years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Monday, January 26, 2015 11:59 AM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah this was the first one of theirs to really leave me cold--it's nice enough but i think the formula just sort of played out for me
― call all destroyer, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:48 (nine years ago) link
I liked the Call Super album a lot (the woodwinds are such a nice touch), but when I listened to it at my parents' house on their system that has a sub woofer, it sounded amazing
― rob, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:49 (nine years ago) link
i listened to the real estate record a lot earlier in the year and then i made the mistake of listening to it at the dentist while i was getting a cavity filled and now i can't disentangle those 2 experiences in my mind so i don't listen to it anymore
― ciderpress, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:50 (nine years ago) link
I enjoyed "Atlas" but yeah it's not half as good as the one before
― Stig of the sanctimonious uncontextualized linkdump (Michael B), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:50 (nine years ago) link
xp hipster dentist or bring your own music
― nothing but rap and country (diamonddave85), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:51 (nine years ago) link
both, but the latter in this case
― ciderpress, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:51 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/ZUDV3aG.jpg
70 NINOS DU BRASIL Novos Mistérios [258 points, 9 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:55 (nine years ago) link
I like the Sturgill Simpson album. I think it's getting a little overpraised because he hits a lot of critics' sweet spots -- he's the anti-brocountry guy who writes about metaphysics, etc. He interviews well. But there are several good tracks and I like his voice despite the mumbles. Good job reinventing "The Promise," too.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:56 (nine years ago) link
!!!
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:56 (nine years ago) link
xp
(The album Sturgill's reminds me most of, both in terms of its execution and its place in the critical firmament, is the Mavericks' What a Crying Shame.)
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:57 (nine years ago) link
lol nino du brazil album has a track called "sepultura"
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:58 (nine years ago) link
s
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:59 (nine years ago) link
sss
― ciderpress, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:59 (nine years ago) link
Sepultura would be a good name for a militantly popist ilm poster
― quinoa: how's it spelt? (dog latin), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:00 (nine years ago) link
expected Ninos to be higher but whatever. great album
― sleeve, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:01 (nine years ago) link
so babymetal is like this year's farrah abraham except it didn't place as well.
― billstevejim, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:02 (nine years ago) link
― nothing but rap and country (diamonddave85), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:02 (nine years ago) link
Can confirm that anyone tempted by the Ninos du Brasil track that placed won't be disappointed by the album.
― lex pretend, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:02 (nine years ago) link
strychnine is this thread's saer, I hope
― ear sirrom (imago), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:02 (nine years ago) link
So happy I could share the "Carnivale under the influence of ayahuasca" sound with ILX.
― excreting zeitgeist (Sanpaku), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:03 (nine years ago) link
i don't get the connection between babymetal and farrah at all
― ciderpress, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:03 (nine years ago) link
fell hard in love w ninoS du braSil after "sombra da lua" showed on the tracks rollout. whole album is hypnotically immersive, i get all sucked in & spaced out every time i put it on, no matter what else i'm doing (or trying to).
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:04 (nine years ago) link
one's babymetal and the other's a babymama
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:04 (nine years ago) link
Vg
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:05 (nine years ago) link
Dancing!
― tangenttangent, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:08 (nine years ago) link
whole album is hypnotically immersive
This is very succinct and very true.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:10 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/xC27b0b.jpg
69 OUGHT More Than Any Other Day [262 points, 7 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:11 (nine years ago) link
ok i've never even heard of this one
― ciderpress, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:13 (nine years ago) link
Yay! First one voted for. This Heat-ish post-punk dream poetry Americana.
― tangenttangent, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:14 (nine years ago) link
now THIS is some "indie" I can get behind, have not ever heard of it before but I'm liking this first track, getting vague Thinking Fellers/Polvo vibes?
― sleeve, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:14 (nine years ago) link
(from Canada, apparently...)
o yeah I can hear This Heat a bit as well, no wonder I like this
― sleeve, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:15 (nine years ago) link
Yes! Ought are pretty much one of the only straight up rock bands I give a shit about this year and the album is outstanding. Perfect cross between Television, early Radiohead and maybe some early 90s rock thing. it would all be 'been there, done that' were it not for their urgency and the sincerity of the lyrics. Best song is Habit followed by the title track. Was really high on my ballot And one of my big regrets of 2014 was not seeing them live when they played London.
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:15 (nine years ago) link
Ought also reminds me a little of Talking Heads, something to do with his voice and phrasing.
― Dan S, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:17 (nine years ago) link
I discovered them literally two nights after their London gig this year - definitely a disappointment to be rectified in 2015. Concur with those two best tracks, plus Around Again.
― tangenttangent, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:18 (nine years ago) link
It's definitely a combobulation of lots of postpunk bands - the greyscale mood included, but if Ought had come out with this record in '79 it'd be up there with many of my favourites easily
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:20 (nine years ago) link
ought album is gr8! not hearing so much direct television or radiohead influence, but yeah, maybe as the more traditional pop/rock element being squozen out through thinking fellers & this heat type art weirdo filters. pere ubu! or a more long-term interesting version of tyvek. not so fond of "habit" cuz i like the herk & jerkier punk stuff best.
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:21 (nine years ago) link
It's hard to do austere rock without being boring. Ought manage it very well I think.
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:23 (nine years ago) link
hadn't heard this, but this is super cool - hearing a little karate in this too maybe?
― the portentous pepper (govern yourself accordingly), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:24 (nine years ago) link
Thinking fellers wAs my abiding thought too after listening to this . Didn't really do all that much for me tbh but i'll give it another shot I guess
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:25 (nine years ago) link
That line about 'stick your head underwater and breathe in deep' will never leave my psyche. What a disturbing thought.
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:25 (nine years ago) link
On the other thread, someone asked about what records sound like Ninos du Brasil, and I was gonna mention the Sultan project by Burhan Öçal & Pete Namlook. Obviously the origin of their sound is completely different (Turkey instead of Brazil), but they have a similar combination of dense polyrhythmic percussion riffs and heavy synths (heavier than on Namlook's ambient albums), so NdB fans might enjoy that shit too.
― Tuomas, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:26 (nine years ago) link
Sturgill Simpson's record is very solid--I voted for it--but I preferred his last album. This one is a bit more ambitious (especially lyrically) but the last one was rawer and had a couple tracks that I think are better than anything here.
Regardless, do check him out. For how much this board was willing to cross over for Pistol Annies, Brandy Clark, and Kacey Musgraves, one would think Sturgill would be popular here; he pushes many of the same buttons, putting a modern spin on traditional sounds.
― Indexed, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:29 (nine years ago) link
Suspect Ninos du Brasil would have placed a good bit higher if the album vote had happened after the track rollout.
― ewar woowar (or something), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:29 (nine years ago) link
Re: Sturgill Simpson
I hate the implication that I should somehow be ashamed for liking a crossover/token country album, sorry I don't have the time to do a deep dive into the genre of every kind of music that catches my attention
(But of course, I felt the same way country listeners did in 2012 as an R&B listener, when Channel Orange and Kaleidoscope Dream were the token R&B albums so who am I to whine)
Anyway, there's so many things about Sturgill Simpson's album that should turn me off - the aforementioned title, the "authenticity"-laden marketing, the drugs-as-salvation-but-really-love themes - but it's all executed so well to me that it's all moot
― Tay-Tay Brooklynpants (Murgatroid), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:29 (nine years ago) link
ninos du brasil just released a 12" on DFA last week fwiw
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:30 (nine years ago) link
from what i heard it wasn't as compelling as the album but maybe check it out if you're a fan
xp Tuomas:
Good call. A similar project from this year (which I doubt will make the cut) was Clap! Clap! - Tayi Bebba, which is light, African, sampled, and footwork rather than the dark, Brazilian, live, and house of the Ninos du Brasil.
― excreting zeitgeist (Sanpaku), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:30 (nine years ago) link
Ought record is sweet, really happy to see it here & look forward to spending much more time with it. Up there with Total Control in the year's best post-punk.
― ear sirrom (imago), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:32 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/wKm9XqL.jpg
68 WARPAINT Warpaint [262 points, 9 votes, 1 first place vote]
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:32 (nine years ago) link
when this came out it felt like it was going to be finishing much higher in the poll
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:32 (nine years ago) link
― the portentous pepper (govern yourself accordingly), Monday, January 26, 2015 1:24 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i haven't formed an opinion on ought yet but karate was a great band
― call all destroyer, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:33 (nine years ago) link
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Monday, January 26, 2015 1:21 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
hmm this sounds nothing like tyvek or pere ubu and exactly like television + radiohead (+ talking heads) i think u need to update your rock vector space basis
great album tho. tim's vocals make it imo. it's like, with this post punk stuff there's the whole mythology of ian curtis *actually* having an epileptic fit or a seizure or whatever on stage, omg so punk right? but, like, the truth is no one actually wants to hear someone spazz out. it's uncomfortable and bad. but the flip of that is no one wants to hear someone sing sound like they're holding anything back or shy. and i think the vox on this album are really the perfect point between these two extremes
― flopson, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:33 (nine years ago) link
my #1, wooo
the Warpaint album owns super hard
IMO it's best digested as a whole but "Love Is To Die", "Biggy" and "Drive" all are immaculate songs in isolation
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:34 (nine years ago) link
Remembered who this ought album really reminds me of: horny genius!
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:34 (nine years ago) link
Speaking of the year's best post-punk...I didn't vote for Warpaint as I thought it was an album of highlights (pretty much the songs DJP lists! DRIVE omg), but I think it's still a very good record with some cracking ideas and performances!
― ear sirrom (imago), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:35 (nine years ago) link
― flopson, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:33 (28 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I can totally hear Pere Ubu in there!
― tangenttangent, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:35 (nine years ago) link
I was initially lukewarm about the Warpaint album, but ended up listening to it a lot this year, it's great driving-at-night music
― Dan S, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:37 (nine years ago) link
Warpaint expands on all of their strengths: dreamy flow, dubby undertow, and proggy but non-masturbatory excursions, but the album as a whole became wearying after repeated listens. I still return to highlights ("Love is to Die", "Disco//Very").
― excreting zeitgeist (Sanpaku), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:37 (nine years ago) link
xps- yeah ok the least yelpy stuff though. tyvek is a major reach tho. whatstheirname, ummm parquet courts that one sounds like tyvek
― flopson, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:37 (nine years ago) link
Didn't vote for this, but definitely memorable from this year. El-p remix of Keep It Healthy is well worth checking out too.
― tangenttangent, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:38 (nine years ago) link
One thing about the Warpaint album that puzzled me was picking "Disco/Very" as the single. I mean, it's catchy and pleasant but it seems like "Love Is To Die" is such a no-brainer introduction into what the album is all about and "Disco/Very" would work better/have more impact as a follow-on to it.
xp with Sanpaku, ha
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:39 (nine years ago) link
Strongly recommend Drive for passing samplers btw
― ear sirrom (imago), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:40 (nine years ago) link
warpaint record came out early in the year but i never stopped listening to it at any point really. was in my top 5 iirc
― ciderpress, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:43 (nine years ago) link
It's a short album, I recommend just listening to it. The highlights work outside of context but within context they work with the albums sequence and achieve super-saiyen status.
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:43 (nine years ago) link
Yeah it does work as a whole too
― ear sirrom (imago), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:44 (nine years ago) link
i think u need to update your rock vector space basis
― flopson, Monday, January 26, 2015 10:33 AM (8 minutes ago)
mebby so? but i hear what i hear. admit it's been a long (long) time since i last heard any early radiohead.
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:44 (nine years ago) link
i listened to "gimme chocolate" and omg babymetal are quite something. i think i might actually like the instrumentation more than the vox. not sure i want to delve into a whole album, which might make me tire of them a bit quickly, but i'll be happy with this treasure of a single for a bit
― lex pretend, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:46 (nine years ago) link
spent a couple months with the warpaint album in heavy rotation, so much so that i eventually became a bit tired of it. haven't been tempted back, though i still dig certain tracks, esp "biggie" and "disco/very"
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:48 (nine years ago) link
like the instrumentation more than the vox
May be an issue with Warpaint. These women (particularly the rhythm section) are super skilled, but perhaps too much character has been ironed out of the vocals.
― non-masturbatory prog excursion (Sanpaku), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:49 (nine years ago) link
Babymetal basically ended up as #26 on my ballot ;_;
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:51 (nine years ago) link
should i be surprised that the metal fans itt seem to be pro-babymetal?
― lex pretend, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:51 (nine years ago) link
i'm watching their live dance routines for "gimme chocolate" now <3333
http://i.imgur.com/bSBV9mm.jpg
67 FUTURE Honest [262 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:51 (nine years ago) link
i'm surprised because i'm a fan of NEITHER metal nor j-pop yet it turns out what i needed in each was...the other
― lex pretend, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:52 (nine years ago) link
If shitty rock must place at least it is outside the top ten. But eww at anyone voting for indIe.Where is saer?
― strychnine, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:52 (nine years ago) link
I think there's another "metal" album you may like this year lex
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:53 (nine years ago) link
they are the Reese's Peanut Butter Cup of music
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:53 (nine years ago) link
wow talk about a big budget highly anticipated album that sounded less awesome than his cameos and guest appearances on other records
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:53 (nine years ago) link
"Honest" from way back in 2013 is easily my favorite song on Honest and "I Be U" was the only thing that even came close. one of the big sophomore slump disappointments in recent major label rap history imo.
― diddybops 67 (120.2)(source field mix) (some dude), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:54 (nine years ago) link
Future has IMO always been terrible
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:54 (nine years ago) link
dunno whether i should be surprised future scraped in or slightly pity the fall of a former ilx favourite
the album wasn't that bad at all, "special" and "i be u" are pretty great, but it really had a grab-bag, unsure feel about it
― lex pretend, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:54 (nine years ago) link
yeah the future album was super disappointing. the title track owns though, which reminds me that totally got snubbed in the tracks poll, goons blew that one
― k3vin k., Monday, 26 January 2015 18:55 (nine years ago) link
i love 'turn on the lights' but i haven't really liked any other future songs at all
― ciderpress, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:56 (nine years ago) link
These women (particularly the rhythm section) are super skilled, but perhaps too much character has been ironed out of the vocals
^this. I'm relistening to the Warpaint album now and I wanna go all JK Simmons on their voices
― Jeff W, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:56 (nine years ago) link
xp that's insane
― flopson, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:56 (nine years ago) link
I think there's another "metal" album you may like this year lex― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins),
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins),
what would that be? It can't be menace ruine.
― Get Ducked (Cosmic Slop), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:57 (nine years ago) link
there are a lot of great tracks on Honest (plus a couple terrible ones admittedly). feel like you guys are kind of overinvested in the narrative on this one
― rob, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:57 (nine years ago) link
I really dug this album *skrug*
― 龜, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:58 (nine years ago) link
I think the flat-affect singing on the Warpaint album is the unifying thread across the songs that weave them into a stronger whole.
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:58 (nine years ago) link
^yes I like the vocals they add to the hypnotic feeling of the music
― Dan S, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:59 (nine years ago) link
I think that was used to better effect on the previous albums though.
― how's life, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:59 (nine years ago) link
scott0 xps
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Monday, 26 January 2015 19:00 (nine years ago) link
Had written this one off having heard what I thought were unforgivably misogynistic lyrics, but I've just looked them up and was apparently mistaken. Ready to give it another chance... Pretty interesting production so far!
― tangenttangent, Monday, 26 January 2015 19:00 (nine years ago) link
― k3vin k., Monday, January 26, 2015 1:55 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
tbf it was in 2013, when the vote was split between half a dozen great Future hits
― diddybops 67 (120.2)(source field mix) (some dude), Monday, 26 January 2015 19:00 (nine years ago) link
Oh no, here we go... I'm out on this one.
― tangenttangent, Monday, 26 January 2015 19:02 (nine years ago) link
― diddybops 67 (120.2)(source field mix) (some dude), Monday, January 26, 2015 2:00 PM (2 minutes ago)
huh for some reason i thought the single was released in late 2013, i guess it was august
― k3vin k., Monday, 26 January 2015 19:04 (nine years ago) link
ok i listened to a little bit of warpaint and yes i would enjoy the music a lot more if there were no words/vocals
― groundless round (La Lechera), Monday, 26 January 2015 19:04 (nine years ago) link
not because their voices are boring or offensive or w/e they're just not interesting enough to add to the music and words themselves are distractingwould rather just groove along instrumentally
― groundless round (La Lechera), Monday, 26 January 2015 19:06 (nine years ago) link
― lex pretend,
Young Thug, you are put on notice.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 January 2015 19:08 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/4PjnTIV.jpg
66 KHUN NARIN Khun Narin's Electric Phin Band [263 points, 10 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 January 2015 19:09 (nine years ago) link
nice
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Monday, 26 January 2015 19:09 (nine years ago) link
― rob, Monday, January 26, 2015 10:57 AM Bookmark
Word. It's not as good as Pluto, but it's like 80% as good as Pluto, which was hardly super-consistent anyway. It got my vote and I'm glad it made the countdown. I feel like this album's rep would be better if most of the best tracks weren't buried in the last half.
"Move That Dope"/"Honest"/"I Be U"/"Covered In Money"/"Special"/"Benz Friends"/"Blood, Sweat, & Tears"/"How Can I Not"/"Sh!t"/"Karate Chop" <--- all great
― The Reverend, Monday, 26 January 2015 19:09 (nine years ago) link
more mice
― ciderpress, Monday, 26 January 2015 19:10 (nine years ago) link
Young Thug treads that line between amazing and terrible way more often than Future ever did and has
― Tay-Tay Brooklynpants (Murgatroid), Monday, 26 January 2015 19:10 (nine years ago) link
The Khun Narin album is great.
― xelab, Monday, 26 January 2015 19:12 (nine years ago) link
Khun Narin is great, well done ILX
(xp w/xelab)
― sleeve, Monday, 26 January 2015 19:12 (nine years ago) link
Keep forgetting to check out the Khun Narin album despite watching those wonderful Youtube videos repeatedly
― Stig of the sanctimonious uncontextualized linkdump (Michael B), Monday, 26 January 2015 19:13 (nine years ago) link
what is this?
― Dan S, Monday, 26 January 2015 19:13 (nine years ago) link
Honest just had a Carter 3 vibe to me where it seemed like he gave away a classic album's worth of songs to other artists and then threw together some leftovers for his own album
― diddybops 67 (120.2)(source field mix) (some dude), Monday, 26 January 2015 19:13 (nine years ago) link
the writing looks Thai?
― Dan S, Monday, 26 January 2015 19:14 (nine years ago) link
yep
― sleeve, Monday, 26 January 2015 19:14 (nine years ago) link
xp: Thai psych wedding processional music.
― non-masturbatory prog excursion (Sanpaku), Monday, 26 January 2015 19:14 (nine years ago) link
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Monday, January 26, 2015 1:58 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah this is exactly how i feel, the vocals only get really emotive at a handful of points on the album and every one is full of intention
― call all destroyer, Monday, 26 January 2015 19:15 (nine years ago) link
tzenni and khun - great start ilx :D
― Mordy, Monday, 26 January 2015 19:16 (nine years ago) link
Tbh, I was never that into Future's big 2013 features. None of "Love Me" or "Bugatti" or "UOENO" or "Tapout" ever really did anything for me.
― The Reverend, Monday, 26 January 2015 19:17 (nine years ago) link
The Khun Narin album was okay as a curio but I didn't LOVE the music. Getting 6 people or whatever to do the work of one drummer is whatever...
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Monday, 26 January 2015 19:20 (nine years ago) link
Noura Mint Seymali and Call Super and Ought all sound promising so far. Babymetal are fun and I officially approve of them but they aren't for me. I still need to check out the Ninos du Brasil album too.
― The Reverend, Monday, 26 January 2015 19:20 (nine years ago) link
Nice! My #3! LOVED that Khun Narin album. So much fun for a jammy psych album. If you are unfamiliar with the album definitely check out the street videos of their performances. It really gives it a lot of context...not that the context is entirely necessary, but it's interesting.
― Non-Stop Erotic Calculus (bmus), Monday, 26 January 2015 19:20 (nine years ago) link
Where is saer?
― strychnine,
I have done my time! Cant cope with the idea of whole albums of this stuff! Also I didnt nominate or vote for any albums so it doesnt seem right
― saer, Monday, 26 January 2015 19:20 (nine years ago) link
xp i think that's otm, youtube def played a role in my love of the album. not sure if i'd like it as much just on its own.
― Mordy, Monday, 26 January 2015 19:23 (nine years ago) link
Much prefer listening to an actual phin than what Khun Narin is doing tbh. This just reminds me I should've nominated that Soundways comp.
― Jeff W, Monday, 26 January 2015 19:26 (nine years ago) link
specialest snowflake lol
― ear sirrom (imago), Monday, 26 January 2015 19:27 (nine years ago) link
Honest was okay for me! Just not earth-shattering or enough of a standout to vote for it or any singles.
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 26 January 2015 19:27 (nine years ago) link
ur just being honest
― lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2015 19:30 (nine years ago) link
^ha! yeah
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 26 January 2015 19:30 (nine years ago) link
lagxxn what was that IDigIt link you'd posted of the 10 minute video of thai music you liked or recorded or something?
― Jennifer 8.-( (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 26 January 2015 19:31 (nine years ago) link
or ThatsMyJam or w/e that website was
― Jennifer 8.-( (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 26 January 2015 19:33 (nine years ago) link
oh yeah that was so good!
― lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2015 19:34 (nine years ago) link
Background: Underground mag Newsweek's story on the Khun Narin album.
― non-masturbatory prog excursion (Sanpaku), Monday, 26 January 2015 19:35 (nine years ago) link
Here's a couple of the links to street videos of the Khun Nariin band doing their thing:
http://youtu.be/sw01jVL0OsE?list=PL0DtV_dCGOlNOTXfJnuAKxYHj31tPPC5-
http://youtu.be/IYGl-l0Toig?list=PL0DtV_dCGOlNOTXfJnuAKxYHj31tPPC5-
― Non-Stop Erotic Calculus (bmus), Monday, 26 January 2015 19:35 (nine years ago) link
― Jennifer 8.-( (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, January 26, 2015 2:31 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
http://youtu.be/RsUaRVW44fU
― lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2015 19:38 (nine years ago) link
lol xp same thing!
― lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2015 19:39 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/eErFpdp.jpg
65 THEO PARRISH American Intelligence [267 points, 10 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 January 2015 19:41 (nine years ago) link
good album imo
― lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2015 19:41 (nine years ago) link
yesssssssssss
― The Reverend, Monday, 26 January 2015 19:43 (nine years ago) link
yessssss first vote of mine to place
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 26 January 2015 19:44 (nine years ago) link
Johnny Fever good call on Justin Townes Earle way back.
― campreverb, Monday, 26 January 2015 19:44 (nine years ago) link
album could go on forever tbh
That album sounds like the skeletons of deep, percussive house jams and it's amazing.
― The Reverend, Monday, 26 January 2015 19:44 (nine years ago) link
Cool. I wasn't even aware he had an album out this year.
― Stig of the sanctimonious uncontextualized linkdump (Michael B), Monday, 26 January 2015 19:45 (nine years ago) link
didnt vote for that but everyone should watch the beautiful video for footwork imo
http://youtu.be/70CeiEJi1OI
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Monday, 26 January 2015 19:45 (nine years ago) link
Not on UK Spotify boo
― Jeff W, Monday, 26 January 2015 19:46 (nine years ago) link
Theo Parrish - Fallen Funk
― The Reverend, Monday, 26 January 2015 19:46 (nine years ago) link
yes theo!!!
"be in yo self" is stunning, whole album is - still enjoying getting into it, it's barely a month old
― lex pretend, Monday, 26 January 2015 19:49 (nine years ago) link
i like his shirt on the cover too
― lag∞n, Monday, 26 January 2015 19:52 (nine years ago) link
shirt/hat/beard combo is excellent
― The Reverend, Monday, 26 January 2015 19:53 (nine years ago) link
it is one long-ass album, still digesting it myself
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Monday, 26 January 2015 19:54 (nine years ago) link
Slight pet peeve, but "I don't like j-pop", like "I don't like American pop", doesn't mean anything.
― abcfsk, Monday, 26 January 2015 19:54 (nine years ago) link
People who dig Khun Narin's mixture of 'world' music and psych could do worse than check out The Dur Dur Band release from last year. Not really the same thing at all, but I really like this.
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Monday, 26 January 2015 19:57 (nine years ago) link
This was a great year for instrumental albums
― fan boy three (Lee626), Monday, 26 January 2015 20:00 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/YnSsgU0.jpg
64 THE NEW PORNOGRAPHERS Brill Bruisers [269 points, 10 votes, 2 first place votes]
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 January 2015 20:03 (nine years ago) link
more like Water Treaders
― sleeve, Monday, 26 January 2015 20:05 (nine years ago) link
i love that cover to bits but have never got anything else about this band
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Monday, 26 January 2015 20:06 (nine years ago) link
Nah, this was a good record...best one since Twin Cinema...but in the end I realized I just didn't care as much now as I did ten years ago.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 January 2015 20:06 (nine years ago) link
OK back to Theo then. The tracks linked above are all seriously good. Is it all programmed? Painstaking stuff if so.
― Jeff W, Monday, 26 January 2015 20:07 (nine years ago) link
Ha! I'm lukewarm on this album, but I've seen plenty of good to great live shows by them. The anti-indie hatred here seems kind of outdated, and not a little creepy.
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 26 January 2015 20:07 (nine years ago) link
I could hang with a full disc of Theo (listening now), good stuff.
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 26 January 2015 20:08 (nine years ago) link
Surprised to see 2 first place votes. Good album, but spotty. Best of the year?
― Indexed, Monday, 26 January 2015 20:09 (nine years ago) link
Wait did that Theo Parrish album come out really late in the year or just with minimal fanfare? I missed it completely.
― Matt DC, Monday, 26 January 2015 20:09 (nine years ago) link
Have to admit when I saw that cover I was like "oh word Common made the list?"
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 26 January 2015 20:09 (nine years ago) link
man I hadn't paid NP much mind after Twin Cinema but this album really sucked me back in and I am super regretful I didn't see them when they toured
― Jennifer 8.-( (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 26 January 2015 20:10 (nine years ago) link
Cher Lloyd was my summer (should have been everyone's) and I'm overjoyed she managed to outshine her debut. Haven't even given Theo Parrish that many spins yet, but he quickly transcended artists I've been playing all year. The Warpaint album sounds great, but not much else to it.
― jay., Monday, 26 January 2015 20:11 (nine years ago) link
I caught NP on the tour around the time of their debut and it kicked alllllll kinds of ass - that period (debut + TC) was when they were at their peak. Since then? There have been....moments of greatness.
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 26 January 2015 20:11 (nine years ago) link
This Theo album is pretty great so far. Hadn't heard of it prior to voting...I can see how it would have shaken up my list a bit.
Definitely agree about that Dur Dur Band album. Doesn't sound anything like Khun Narin but really great.
― Non-Stop Erotic Calculus (bmus), Monday, 26 January 2015 20:12 (nine years ago) link
will never forgive TNPs for the youtube war on the east coast ads
― ||||||||, Monday, 26 January 2015 20:15 (nine years ago) link
OK I had tuned out the NPs since twin cinema as well but this is sounding very good as of track 2
― ciderpress, Monday, 26 January 2015 20:15 (nine years ago) link
voted for this one, thought it was surprisingly strong
― Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Monday, 26 January 2015 20:16 (nine years ago) link
brill bruisers is a big step down from their peak but still has 4 or 5 really great songs.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 26 January 2015 20:17 (nine years ago) link
the title track and the neko songs are all bangers but i could never find myself listening to it with any frequency after a couple times through
― i'm tellin you it was kenard (slothroprhymes), Monday, 26 January 2015 20:19 (nine years ago) link
Theo came out mid December, I'm pretty sure. Love it, but certainly haven't digested it yet. Second of my votes to place (Call Super the other one so far).
― toby, Monday, 26 January 2015 20:22 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/p9hqgae.jpg
63 LEON VYNEHALL Music for the Uninvited [271 points, 13 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 January 2015 20:25 (nine years ago) link
it's good but theo should have placed higher
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Monday, 26 January 2015 20:26 (nine years ago) link
Now this one I really couldn't get into, although I did like 'Butterflies'.
― Matt DC, Monday, 26 January 2015 20:27 (nine years ago) link
It's okaaaayyyyy. I like the first track with the strings a lot most of the rest is kind of boring.
― The Reverend, Monday, 26 January 2015 20:27 (nine years ago) link
first of mine to place
― j. winters (josh), Monday, 26 January 2015 20:29 (nine years ago) link
Alllllllmmmmmmmmost voted for Ought. Maybe that was my only shot at placing something and I fucked it up.
― Dinsdale, Monday, 26 January 2015 20:29 (nine years ago) link
Apropos as the guy next to me on the bus currently is inside the deku tree in his DS zelda game
― ciderpress, Monday, 26 January 2015 20:30 (nine years ago) link
Damn, I just realized Aphex Twin is gonna win, isn't he? There hasn't been an Aphex albums released during ILM's EOY poll era, so punters must've had a huge suppressed aphexgasm just waiting to erupt into votes. Blah.
― Tuomas, Monday, 26 January 2015 20:33 (nine years ago) link
No
― ear sirrom (imago), Monday, 26 January 2015 20:33 (nine years ago) link
actually tuomas, good news, pete namlook is going to win
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Monday, 26 January 2015 20:34 (nine years ago) link
aphex at #11 imo
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Monday, 26 January 2015 20:35 (nine years ago) link
Aphex will place high (like top 10), but will not win.
― MarkoP, Monday, 26 January 2015 20:35 (nine years ago) link
FKA twigs or T. Swift will win.
― Tay-Tay Brooklynpants (Murgatroid), Monday, 26 January 2015 20:36 (nine years ago) link
Aphex seems like a lock for top 10 but 1 is unlikely
― ciderpress, Monday, 26 January 2015 20:36 (nine years ago) link
d'angelo will win imo
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Monday, 26 January 2015 20:37 (nine years ago) link
Richard D Awson to beat his near-namesake mebbe
― ear sirrom (imago), Monday, 26 January 2015 20:38 (nine years ago) link
I love the vynehall record but wouldn't argue with ppl who find it boring
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 26 January 2015 20:38 (nine years ago) link
gave it a few votes iirc but i liked some of the tracks a lot more than others. personal favourite is goodthing: http://youtu.be/ZP7oy6O7hrU
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Monday, 26 January 2015 20:39 (nine years ago) link
i should've votedsorry :(
― groundless round (La Lechera), Monday, 26 January 2015 20:39 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/ftpAthH.jpg
62 DEAN BLUNT Black Metal [272 points, 9 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 January 2015 20:40 (nine years ago) link
Thought this was a good album but it didn't really stick with me.
― seandalai, Monday, 26 January 2015 20:41 (nine years ago) link
I can't make heads or tails of this (though I only started listening to it for the first time ten minutes ago).
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 January 2015 20:42 (nine years ago) link
Track titles are great. I'm really hoping now it sounds like Lush meets 50 Cent.
― Jeff W, Monday, 26 January 2015 20:44 (nine years ago) link
there's something impressive about how similar all his records sound regardless of the sounds he uses
― ogmor, Monday, 26 January 2015 20:46 (nine years ago) link
I tried to listen to that album but couldn't make it halfway through.
― The Reverend, Monday, 26 January 2015 20:48 (nine years ago) link
I don't like the ALL CAPS naming convention for tracks, but I shouldn't let that blind me. This is fine.
― tangenttangent, Monday, 26 January 2015 20:49 (nine years ago) link
This sounds like something a friend would record and then play for you and you have to say nice things about it because he's your friend but down inside you and he both know it's not very good.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 January 2015 20:52 (nine years ago) link
I'd be very frustrated if Aphex won, but I doubt he will. My bets are on #6
/nomorepredictionspromise
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Monday, 26 January 2015 20:54 (nine years ago) link
i am assuming there's some conceptual angle i would need to read about to "get" b/c otherwise yeah it sounds like some guy's demos
― call all destroyer, Monday, 26 January 2015 20:54 (nine years ago) link
Such a misleading album name.
― Dinsdale, Monday, 26 January 2015 20:55 (nine years ago) link
I'm yet to understand the work of Dean Blunt. He's like Oneohtrix to me - hugely popular with the publications/sites I follow but I just can't get my head around or relate to what's going on with it.
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Monday, 26 January 2015 20:56 (nine years ago) link
I keep meaning to start a thread of indie/hipster culture referencing black metal. It seems to be quite the thing these days.
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Monday, 26 January 2015 20:57 (nine years ago) link
Deafheaven
― ear sirrom (imago), Monday, 26 January 2015 20:57 (nine years ago) link
I like that Dean Blunt album, reminds me of AR Kane's wasted, hazy vibe
― Stig of the sanctimonious uncontextualized linkdump (Michael B), Monday, 26 January 2015 20:58 (nine years ago) link
The Soft Pink Truth had the best black metal this year
― The Reverend, Monday, 26 January 2015 20:58 (nine years ago) link
^
― ear sirrom (imago), Monday, 26 January 2015 20:58 (nine years ago) link
(& Myrkur!)
― ear sirrom (imago), Monday, 26 January 2015 20:59 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/wvpKzMX.jpg
61 FREDDIE GIBBS & MADLIB Piñata [275 points, 9 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 January 2015 21:00 (nine years ago) link
77 BABYMETAL Babymetal [236 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote]76 CHER LLOYD Sorry I'm Late [239 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]75 MICA LEVI Under the Skin: Original Motion Picture Soundtrack [242 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]74 NOURA MINT SEYMALI Tzenni [243 points, 8 votes]73 REAL ESTATE Atlas [254 points, 9 votes]72 CALL SUPER Suzi Ecto [255 points, 11 votes]71 STURGILL SIMPSON Metamodern Sounds in Country Music [256 points, 10 votes]70 NINOS DU BRASIL Novos Mistérios [258 points, 9 votes]69 OUGHT More Than Any Other Day [262 points, 7 votes]68 WARPAINT Warpaint [262 points, 9 votes, 1 first place vote]67 FUTURE Honest [262 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]66 KHUN NARIN Khun Narin's Electric Phin Band [263 points, 10 votes]65 THEO PARRISH American Intelligence [267 points, 10 votes]64 THE NEW PORNOGRAPHERS Brill Bruisers [269 points, 10 votes, 2 first place votes]63 LEON VYNEHALL Music for the Uninvited [271 points, 13 votes]62 DEAN BLUNT Black Metal [272 points, 9 votes]61 FREDDIE GIBBS & MADLIB Piñata [275 points, 9 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 January 2015 21:01 (nine years ago) link
xp yaaaaaaaaassssssssssssssssssss
― i'm tellin you it was kenard (slothroprhymes), Monday, 26 January 2015 21:03 (nine years ago) link
nice start!
voted ninos & warpaint, gibbs/madlib just missed my ballot.
― gr8080, Monday, 26 January 2015 21:03 (nine years ago) link
that was my #4 iirc
Ehhh that's ok I never got that into it, maybe I should give it another shake.
― The Reverend, Monday, 26 January 2015 21:04 (nine years ago) link
I missed most of the rollout today but enjoyed catching up - voted for Khun Narin and Noura Mint Seymali, have previously enjoyed Call Super, Ninos du Brasil and Dean Blunt, still need to check out Theo Parish and Mica Levi...
Oh, and HB JF!
― seandalai, Monday, 26 January 2015 21:04 (nine years ago) link
77-61 was a ride and a half
Dean Blunt's songs remind me of those 'Best of MP3.COM' posts on WFMU. They've definitely got something about 'em. Can't imagine why a label would want to release them in album form though.
― Jeff W, Monday, 26 January 2015 21:08 (nine years ago) link
You know we're all getting old when there's more bobbins on the albums thread than in the tracks poll.
― Matt DC, Monday, 26 January 2015 21:09 (nine years ago) link
Enjoyed the diversity of today's list. Had only heard 8 and only voted for 2 (Cher Lloyd & Sturgill Simpson).
― Indexed, Monday, 26 January 2015 21:13 (nine years ago) link
i also found the dean blunt album inscrutable but i wasn't as quick to dismiss it as BS as you guys are. i ended up really liking it. it starts out kinda singer songwritery then gets noisy & then dubby.
― flopson, Monday, 26 January 2015 21:14 (nine years ago) link
catch-up on the last few...
rev otm re: honest. it's not perfect, but it's got a ton of great tracks, not just the 1 or 2 that so many wanna grudgingly acknowledge. a slight disappointment after pluto, sure, but not some smoking crater.
love the khun narin lp! preordered, have happily spun it countless time since. made for lolling about on sunny days.
remember enjoying the freddy gibbs/madlib album, but it's been a while. need to catch up on the rest (except new pornographers, who bore me silly).
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Monday, 26 January 2015 21:21 (nine years ago) link
Ooh, just missed the rollout. Good work so far, guys.
Voted for: Babymetal & Ninos du BrasilOn longlist: Dean Blunt (was never that likely to make it but still a good record)
I heard a tiny bit of Noura Mint Seymali and Khun Narin but not enough to consider putting them on my lists, I liked what I heard, though.
I probably should check out Ought, but for every interesting point of reference someone then brings up a deathly dull comparison to counter it with.
― emil.y, Monday, 26 January 2015 21:24 (nine years ago) link
seriously great start.
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Monday, 26 January 2015 21:26 (nine years ago) link
madlib totally off my radar, i will check that
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Monday, 26 January 2015 21:27 (nine years ago) link
Albums results are much better than singles so far.
― MikoMcha, Monday, 26 January 2015 21:28 (nine years ago) link
Dean Blunt ended up my 27, Babymetal my 31. The appeal of the former faded fast after a while. I kind of liked the moments most on Black Metal that could've come out on Sarah Records.
― All The Craigers Gonna Craig Craig Craig Craig Craig (Craigo Boingo), Monday, 26 January 2015 21:28 (nine years ago) link
more bobbins on the albums thread than in the tracks poll
Much of the heralded bobbins material I've sampled this year has been a bit too "tracky", both in construction and intent as DJ tools. Past EOY bobbins have made more concessions to song form.
Voted for: Mica Levi, Ninos Du Brasil, WarpaintPleased to see: Babymetal, Noura Mint Seymali, Call SuperDiscovered: Khun Narin
― non-masturbatory prog excursion (Sanpaku), Monday, 26 January 2015 21:30 (nine years ago) link
― The Reverend, Monday, January 26, 2015 3:04 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah ditto for pinata
interesting start for sure, didn't vote for any of 'em
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 26 January 2015 21:31 (nine years ago) link
Havent heard any of them so far and im on a train with no headphones, so its already a more pleasant experience. I own some records by one of the artists! tho not the one featuring here, which I havent heard, he lost me a while back though:(
― saer, Monday, 26 January 2015 21:33 (nine years ago) link
Voted for: Mica Levi, Ninos Du BrasilPleased to discover: Khun Narin, Babymetal, Noura Mint Seymali
― MikoMcha, Monday, 26 January 2015 21:34 (nine years ago) link
Oh, and I voted for Dean Blunt.
― MikoMcha, Monday, 26 January 2015 21:35 (nine years ago) link
Khun Narin seems like a wild choice, when and where was this discussed?
― MikoMcha, Monday, 26 January 2015 21:36 (nine years ago) link
I own some records by one of the artists! tho not the one featuring here, which I havent heard, he lost me a while back though:(
― saer, Monday, January 26, 2015 1:33 PM Bookmark
Theo?
― The Reverend, Monday, 26 January 2015 21:36 (nine years ago) link
oops, forgot to say who, but yes Theo
― saer, Monday, 26 January 2015 21:38 (nine years ago) link
no thread for ขุนนริทร์ศิลป์พิณประยุกต์ (Khun Narin's Electric Phin Band)?
― seandalai, Monday, 26 January 2015 21:38 (nine years ago) link
listened to bits of khun narin and noura mint seymali over dinner, enjoyed them all but utterly lack the grounding in their contexts to make any qualitative judgments
shocked @ my own ballot for apparently leaving off theo parrish - there were about 10 albums that kept moving in and out of the last 5 spots and it seems on the day i submitted, theo moved out and leon vynehall moved in. if i was making it now theo would be way up the list because that album is endlessly engrossing; vynehall just pushed my tasteful breezy summer house buttons - i find his productions smooth in just the right way, those tasteful strings on "inside the deku tree" and "be brave, clench fists". glad they both made it.
absolutely hated the music dean blunt made as part of hype williams, he has also inspired a lot of bad writing that makes me want to listen to him even less.
i have had the freddie gibbs album in my itunes for months without being moved to play it, it sort of has this dusty air of ~real hip-hop for j dilla fanboys about it whereas i would rather have rae sremmurd and junglepussy in my life.
― lex pretend, Monday, 26 January 2015 21:39 (nine years ago) link
I can confirm that the Call Super album does indeed sound fantastic on a big system, really intricately textured and pretty but with some serious low end at the same time.
Most intrigued about the Noura Mint Seymali and Khun Narin albums though.
― Matt DC, Monday, 26 January 2015 21:41 (nine years ago) link
it sort of has this dusty air of ~real hip-hop
lol I admit this being the reason why I like it so much.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 January 2015 21:44 (nine years ago) link
"no thread for ขุนนริทร์ศิลป์พิณประยุกต์ (Khun Narin's Electric Phin Band)?"
A thread title that's completely logical and yet it's also clear why I never clicked on it.
― MikoMcha, Monday, 26 January 2015 21:46 (nine years ago) link
Vibe is sort of dated, like something that would have sounded brilliant 10 years ago. Feel the same way about RTJ.
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Monday, 26 January 2015 21:46 (nine years ago) link
it used to have the rather inscrutable title "no thread for ขุนนริทร์ศิลป์พิณประยุกต์ ?" xp
― seandalai, Monday, 26 January 2015 21:48 (nine years ago) link
Voted for Cher Lloyd; I like the Future album but recognise its flaws. I love "Butterflies" and need to hear the rest of the Vynehall album; ditto Ninos du Brasil after the tracks poll.
Couple of things I've never heard of popping up which is nice to see!
Predicting that D'Angelo wins in a landslide.
― bae sremmurd (monotony), Monday, 26 January 2015 21:49 (nine years ago) link
i almost never click on threads with the 'why isn't there a thread for ____?' titles, i don't know why but they annoy me
― ciderpress, Monday, 26 January 2015 21:49 (nine years ago) link
xxp There's also: Psychedelic Rock that's not Psychedelic Rock
― Lee626, Monday, 26 January 2015 21:51 (nine years ago) link
Wowwwwwwwwww Sturgill is way low. A lot of these are way lower than I expected. Pouring ones out for Menace Ruine, Botanist, Torn Hawk, and Earth...
― YES TYPE all your albums ballot out and post them here (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 26 January 2015 21:57 (nine years ago) link
― ciderpress, Monday, January 26, 2015 4:49 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the first couple times they happened they were incredibly obnoxious, but when they happen now i tend to assume they're knowing parodies of the form
― diddybops 67 (120.2)(source field mix) (some dude), Monday, 26 January 2015 21:57 (nine years ago) link
What? No thread for MAGIC!?
― Lee626, Monday, 26 January 2015 21:58 (nine years ago) link
Voted for Khun Narin and Warpaint. Sturgill and Noura Ment Seymali were near-misses for my ballot
― YES TYPE all your albums ballot out and post them here (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 26 January 2015 22:00 (nine years ago) link
i think botanist will still place- am i deluding myself?
― Mordy, Monday, 26 January 2015 22:03 (nine years ago) link
Voted for Khun Narin and Real Estate (even though Atlas not as strong as their previous albums). Cher Lloyd just missed the cut.
― Lee626, Monday, 26 January 2015 22:03 (nine years ago) link
I kinda wish ขุนนริทร์ศิลป์พิณประยุกต์ had played my wedding.
― MikoMcha, Monday, 26 January 2015 22:05 (nine years ago) link
Think I voted for Mica Levi, v cool to see it turn up
― Simon H., Monday, 26 January 2015 22:10 (nine years ago) link
― Lee626, Monday, January 26, 2015 1:51 PM (17 minutes ago)
yeah, that was the thread that first got me all het up abt thee electric phin. esp this video right here.
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Monday, 26 January 2015 22:16 (nine years ago) link
completely agree with everyone who has said the Khun Narin Youtubes outshine the album (though the album is great too!)
― so not gonna häpna (seandalai), Monday, 26 January 2015 22:17 (nine years ago) link
Isn't the first track the same as one of the youtubes?
― Lee626, Monday, 26 January 2015 22:19 (nine years ago) link
Menace Ruine may well still place. Botanist certainly will. Relax!
― ear sirrom (imago), Monday, 26 January 2015 23:41 (nine years ago) link
I was briefly in love with that Freddie Gibbs album throughout the summer, but I didn't end up voting for it.
I wasn't impressed with the indie stuff on here tonight, it was pure rote worthless dogshit. I mean the NP's and Real Estate - gimmee a fucking break! Ought were just more inconsequential, grinding dullness.
― xelab, Monday, 26 January 2015 23:48 (nine years ago) link
Fantastic first day. Bunch of new things I hadn't heard and already really enjoy: NMS, Call Super and Warpaint.
― octobeard, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 00:50 (nine years ago) link
leon vynehall is my only vote to make it so far, beautiful album, one that i think a lot of people who aren't normally into house might like. the theo parrish probably would've made it given another few months to digest it, but so far "be in yo self" is the only track that i love on it. i really like the call super, but i don't think i love it, just missed by ballot, i'll keep listening and i suspect it will click in a different way eventually. khun narin just missed by ballot. i like cher lloyd's "bind your love" and i'm kind of intrigued, but i'm not sure if i could get into an album of emo balladry. real estate is an indie band that doesn't annoy me at all, quite pleasant in fact, i like that they don't come off as try-hards and they seem to know their own strengths.
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 27 January 2015 01:00 (nine years ago) link
shit honest & benz friends alone make the future album a classic imo
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 01:09 (nine years ago) link
i also voted for warpaint - it grew on me when i relistened to it after nominations started, idk its still more background-ish to me than their earlier stuff
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 01:12 (nine years ago) link
Pull up at this girl's crib bumpin Lil Boosie yeah
― 龜, Tuesday, May 6, 2014 8:26 AM (8 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 01:21 (nine years ago) link
77 BABYMETAL BabymetalLove Gimme Chocolate but missed this happening this year. Will happily tuck into this album at some point and if that track is indicative, I'm sure I'll enjoy it.76 CHER LLOYD Sorry I'm Late Just recently got through this one; I don't care much for her as a vocalist. There's a standout track or two; I can ride for "Bind Your Love". 75 MICA LEVI Under the Skin: Original Motion Picture SoundtrackVoted for this; loved the movie and was so taken with the visuals I overlooked the tracks. Spent at least a week listening to this more or less nonstop. Lygeti-lite and very insectile. Recommend "Death" as the best route in.74 NOURA MINT SEYMALI TzennI work with people who got Noura out and about and saw her live this year. She's dope. Like the album but mostly for vibin' out.73 REAL ESTATE AtlasIt ain't me man.72 CALL SUPER Suzi Ecto Never heard of this; looking forward to a spin or two.71 STURGILL SIMPSON Metamodern Sounds in Country Music Voted for it and surprised this was so low! I listened to a fair amount of pop and trad country this year and this was as good as anything in that vein; if it's this year's token country name drop it's not because it's not deserving.70 NINOS DU BRASIL Novos Mistérios New to me but the representative track on the singles poll was great so high hopes.69 OUGHT More Than Any Other Day Never heard of it. Will try.68 WARPAINT WarpaintI feel like I tried this album at some point and it didn't click? Willing to try again.67 FUTURE HonestFell completely in love with Pluto and had perhaps unrealistically high expectations for this. Move That Dope is about timeless; I will also rep for My Momma, Honest, I Be U and Benz Friendz. Plus he put Big Rube on so I can't be too snarky.66 KHUN NARIN Khun Narin's Electric Phin BandThis has been sitting on my desk in shrinkwrap for months! I suppose I need to open it.65 THEO PARRISH American IntelligenceI was aware this album dropped but I have limited exposure to Parrish and no immediate quick access (this is the only album thus far in the countdown not on spotify). I will find it.64 THE NEW PORNOGRAPHERS Brill BruisersNever been a fan and doubt this is gonna change things but I'll try.63 LEON VYNEHALL Music for the UninvitedGlancingly familiar with this guy and a skim of the tracks is very rewarding... I think I'll be thankful to y'all later.62 DEAN BLUNT Black MetalNever heard of him, unsure what to make of this. Will report back.61 FREDDIE GIBBS & MADLIB Piñata Played this heavily and enjoyed it quite a bit but have a lil' bit of LOL OLD anxiety about riding too hard for it. That said, Deeper / High / Harold's / Bomb / Shitsville / Thuggin / Robes / Broken / Knicks / Piñata are all excellent and while I didn't vote for it, Pinata was only just outside the ballot. YAY OLD
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 01:45 (nine years ago) link
"Redeemer" and "Stone Island" by Dean Blunt were my favourite records of that year, go get on them. "Black Metal" is... not great on the surface but framed as a "major label debut pisstake" (I think?) it is pretty good
― fgti, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 01:58 (nine years ago) link
― johnny crunch, Monday, January 26, 2015 8:21 PM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
that reminds me, if Honest barely scraped its way in then Life After Deathrow doesn't stand a chance :/
― diddybops 67 (120.2)(source field mix) (some dude), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 02:13 (nine years ago) link
re: gibbs/madlib, madlib still sounds interesting and fresh in a field where nearly everyone has has gone completely stale, and i think that should count for something. not a fan of RTJ tho.
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 02:23 (nine years ago) link
i don't think i'll ever understand that perspective where the style of the music matters more than what it actually sounds like.
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 02:30 (nine years ago) link
My favorite of this batch is the Vynehall.
― Tove Lo Tove You Baby (jaymc), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 05:40 (nine years ago) link
Mine is probably Ninos du Brasil, and I imagine by the time I actually take it out to my car and listen to it while driving that appreciation will quadruple.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 05:46 (nine years ago) link
^ My favorite too, in ahead of Freddie Gibbs, Ought, Khun Narin and Mica Levi.
Of what I heard for the first time today, Nora Mint Seymali and Call Super are the most promising. Sturgill Simpson's nice, too.
No: Babymetal, Dean Blunt, New Pornographers.
A lot of folks repping "Honest", but I wanna 2nd forks & the Rev on "Benz Friends". Love that track so much, esp Andre's verse, being lol/yay old an everthing. Listened to it on repeat for quite a while when first getting into the album.
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 06:00 (nine years ago) link
dammit, "benz friendz", do so much of my typing on autopilot :/
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 06:01 (nine years ago) link
I think it's kinda interesting that out the 17 albums so far, only Ninos du Brasil has also show up in the tracks list. It's not unusual that with rock music people are more likely to vote for albums than tracks from said albums, but the same seems to apply to techno/house and rap and pop albums on the list too, which is a bit surprising. Are people just more likely to vote for different stuff (one-hit wonders, tracks that didn't get a particularly good album to accompany them) in the tracks poll?
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 08:11 (nine years ago) link
If i like say 3 or less tracks on an album then I dont think of it as an album it just a record with some other tracks on it that i never play. If there's more than that on it I like then I guess I start to think of it as an album
there are only around 12 of these in existence
― saer, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 08:16 (nine years ago) link
Future placed in both didn't he?
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 08:17 (nine years ago) link
Oh yeah, forgot about that.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 08:24 (nine years ago) link
wow great start so far, my #1, #3 and #6 already placing.voted cher lloyd number one, every single track on that album just grabs me, and every time i listen to it i find myself enjoying it over and over. the finale, 'alone with me' i probably repeat five times over when the album finishes.also voted dean blunt and sturgill simpson high.babymetal and ought were both on my longlist, think i was planning on throwing a tracks vote to gimme chocolate but it fell a bit shy too.voted 'sombra da lua' over the record but absolutely fantastic to see ninos du brasil place on both polls.most of the rest that has placed so far i had enjoyed but wasn't near voting for, except for the theo parrish and mica levi records, neither of which have i heard so will be checking them out.cheers ilm and JF!
― nxd, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 09:21 (nine years ago) link
I was the #1 vote for Future. Had more tracks I straight out loved on it than any other album I listened to last year. Think the only other album I bothered ranking was 2NE1.
Also voted for Ought. Happily most of the countdown so far is stuff I'm completely unfamiliar with. Been enjoying the Noura Mint Seymali a lot this morning.
― pandemic, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 10:38 (nine years ago) link
I was one of the two #1 voters for Brill Bruisers - the New Pornographers totally lost me with their last couple of albums, would never have guessed they'd come back with something this strong.
I liked the Leon Vynehall and Freddie Gibbs/Madlib albums although neither made my ballot (the Step Brothers album got my Old Guy Rap vote this year).
Keen to hear Noura Mint Seymali and Khurin Narin. Also the Ought record - I don't really listen to much post-punk these days but the Karate comparisons upthread sound promising.
― Gavin, Leeds, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 10:59 (nine years ago) link
tried listening to ought again last night but some of it was so close to tful282 that it was just distracting, like meeting someone who just happens to be wearing the hollowed-out skin of your best friend from school. no slight on their music but i just couldn't do it.
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 11:06 (nine years ago) link
just going through this thread in detail now...
― uberweiss, Monday, January 26, 2015 3:57 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
completely otm for me haha
― nxd, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 11:09 (nine years ago) link
might grow on me though - i had a similar initial reaction to the protomartyr record which basically sounds like a less-aggro gvsb, but i've ended up playing the shit out of that (xp to me)
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 11:09 (nine years ago) link
I loved that Protomartyr album too Nick, it got a vote from me, GvsB is a good point of comparison, I also thought of Jonathan Fire-eater for my sins.
― Ratt in Mi Kitchen (Neil S), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 11:24 (nine years ago) link
the songwriting on the ought album is very very good. I've never heard thinking fellers, so maybe it helps. But I love the lyrics on Habit, for example describes the state of addiction/addictive personality disorder perfectly.
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 11:26 (nine years ago) link
"Redeemer" and "Stone Island" by Dean Blunt were my favourite records of that year, go get on them.
yeah, both of these are better/more accessible than Black Metal. Although he's always going to an acquired taste
― Number None, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 11:27 (nine years ago) link
'Habit' was the song that made me feel sad that LTM will never be able to release a Slovenly box set while Greg Ginn still walks this earth
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 11:31 (nine years ago) link
but yeah, that was a decent track
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 11:32 (nine years ago) link
i've never heard of any of these bands, Nick. Maybe if I had, I'd not be so enamoured by Ought. Certainly felt frustrated by the Parquet Courts' 'Sunbathing Animal' for sounding too uncannily close to umpteen other things.
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 12:43 (nine years ago) link
To mention Total Control again - they were the slightly derivative postpunk band I really took to during the nominations process. Worth checking out (opening track is lovely but an anomaly)
Parquet Courts are a disgrace
― ear sirrom (imago), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 12:47 (nine years ago) link
I need a list of very good lesser-known postpunk bands to check out. http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/business/levi-roots-launches-post-punk-post-punk-sauce-2015012294685
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 12:55 (nine years ago) link
― pandemic, Tuesday, January 27, 2015 5:38 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
My dude
― 龜, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 13:07 (nine years ago) link
Xelab 100% otm upthread. Worthless dogshit is correct.
― strychnine, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 13:11 (nine years ago) link
My name is dog latin.
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 13:19 (nine years ago) link
What is latin for indie rock is worthless dogshit then?
― strychnine, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 13:21 (nine years ago) link
I bet you dont know dog no latin
― strychnine, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 13:22 (nine years ago) link
nux vomica nequam est
― ear sirrom (imago), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 13:32 (nine years ago) link
What's latin for 'lame kissass troll'?
― YES TYPE all your albums ballot out and post them here (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 13:57 (nine years ago) link
60-41 today, starting now...
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:00 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/pEzE4q3.jpg
60 TUNE-YARDS Nikki Nack [278 points, 11 votes]
whats the latin word for afterglow of critical irrational exuberance
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:02 (nine years ago) link
Tune-Yards finally make an album that I love front-to-back, and that's when everyone starts to cool on them a bit.
― That shit right there is precedented. (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:02 (nine years ago) link
ha found it quite tricky to jones for a second listen to this one :(
― nxd, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:04 (nine years ago) link
worst album title of rollout sewn up, maybe worst album too
― ear sirrom (imago), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:04 (nine years ago) link
maybe, one day, i will get through more than 2.5 of the songs on here.
i like the name nikki nack, and the cover to an extent. very ze records/italo disco
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:07 (nine years ago) link
does the title actually refer to anything or is it insufferable quirky infantilism pt 939203354354
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:07 (nine years ago) link
love your indie infantilism thing, lex.
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:08 (nine years ago) link
All of a sudden I have a hankering for a cherry Fruit Roll-Up
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:11 (nine years ago) link
I usually love twee infantile indie maximalism and I can't stand Tune-Yards.
― All The Craigers Gonna Craig Craig Craig Craig Craig (Craigo Boingo), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:12 (nine years ago) link
Violently loathed Water Fountain, but maybe this harbours discreet depths I'm yet to discover. Trying now.
― tangenttangent, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:13 (nine years ago) link
Only heard one song (dunno from what album) and never felt encouraged to explore any further, even after she won the P&J in whatever year.
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:14 (nine years ago) link
we have no time for anything childlike ::roars with applause when nicki minaj becomes a human barbie doll::
― some dude, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:14 (nine years ago) link
that's a pretty low placing right?
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:15 (nine years ago) link
mmmm... not really?
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:16 (nine years ago) link
Would a Ting Tings comparison be unfair?
― tangenttangent, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:18 (nine years ago) link
Some infantilism is uncanny & inspired. Some is unconscionable & insipid
― ear sirrom (imago), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:20 (nine years ago) link
it's a low placing when her last album was #10 in our 2011 poll. but it's also not unexpected given that on Pazz & Jop she dropped from a #1 in 2011 to #29 in 2014. it doesn't even seem like there was a backlash or bad reviews, people just moved on and lost interest?
― some dude, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:21 (nine years ago) link
― some dude, Tuesday, January 27, 2015 8:21 AM (1 second ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
quite possibly. it's rough when you believe in an artist and this happens, but it's usually inevitable.
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:22 (nine years ago) link
never got into Tune-Yards but her stuff is definitely distinctive, not yr typical indie whatsit at all iirc
― Simon H., Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:23 (nine years ago) link
how much of TY's high placing in 2011 was down to 'shock of the new'? i don't feel as though this new album is much of a leap, is it?
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:24 (nine years ago) link
I was listening to this while showering this morning – some of her best choruses ever. I top tenned it.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:25 (nine years ago) link
Becky G would approve.
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:26 (nine years ago) link
I liked "Real Thing" and "Water Fountain" off the album but not much else tbh
― Stig of the sanctimonious uncontextualized linkdump (Michael B), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:27 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/FBf6x3y.jpg
59 KELIS Food [281 points, 13 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:28 (nine years ago) link
criminally underrated
― Simon H., Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:29 (nine years ago) link
great cover/title. not heard this though.
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:29 (nine years ago) link
now this album I couldn't get into at all besides "Jerk Ribs" and, I think, "Rumble." Dave Sitek arranges the horns rather awkwardly.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:30 (nine years ago) link
guess no-one was all that hungry?
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:30 (nine years ago) link
this falls into my 'like every track on the album' categoryvoted for it i think
― nxd, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:31 (nine years ago) link
xpost yeah same as Alfred, I like the afrobeat touches though, maybe its due a relisten
― Stig of the sanctimonious uncontextualized linkdump (Michael B), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:31 (nine years ago) link
Agree with Alfred, love 'Jerk Ribs' but found the production really cloying over a whole album.
― Gavin, Leeds, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:33 (nine years ago) link
I should love Kelis but to my ears her producers don't often find the most sympathetic settings for her chalky voice. I do ride for this album conceptually though.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:35 (nine years ago) link
wonderful album, kelis is a rare one who can do retro revivalism (on the heels of a guettabosh motherhood album) and still sound completely distinct. if it faded a bit i'll ascribe that to winter, it's really a blazing weather album, but it's domestic as well, sort of like being in your kitchen looking out at the city. it probably sounds like a lot of classic 70s soul records i've never heard
aside from "jerk ribs" (obviously), "runnin" and "friday fish fry" were favourites - former for the gorgeousness, latter for the funk
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:35 (nine years ago) link
This Kelis album was a massive grower for me. Thought it was kind of bland at first apart from Jerk Ribs which I already loved but slowly the rest of the songs grew on me. Forever Be, Floyd and Bless The Telephone are my highlights now. Shame this was her first album that didn't produce any big singles.
― Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:36 (nine years ago) link
I'll give it another try.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:37 (nine years ago) link
I wonder will the Neneh Cherry album chart
― Stig of the sanctimonious uncontextualized linkdump (Michael B), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:39 (nine years ago) link
the production sounds a lot more natural than the retro shit that actually does do well like "uptown funk" or "happy". horns sound excellent to me, and her voice has this dustiness to it that fits right in.
she smashed it live with this album too
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:39 (nine years ago) link
― Stig of the sanctimonious uncontextualized linkdump (Michael B), Tuesday, January 27, 2015 8:39 AM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Was literally just wondering this too
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:40 (nine years ago) link
didn't like the neneh album half as much as the free jazz one she did.
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:40 (nine years ago) link
I figure it will. Seemed to get quite a bit of love 'round here (and I voted for it).
― That shit right there is precedented. (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:40 (nine years ago) link
I wonder how much of the production complaints are just a subconcsious kneejerk "eww indie bro" thing, whole album sounds great to me (xp's)
― Simon H., Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:42 (nine years ago) link
do I need to send you a photo of my Stephen Malkmus poster
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:43 (nine years ago) link
also...Kelis is indie?
i heard so many albums last year but not enough listens to let them sink in hence i ended up having 3 albums on my ballot. neneh cherry album sounded good though (esp "weightless") although not as good as the free jazz album
― Stig of the sanctimonious uncontextualized linkdump (Michael B), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:44 (nine years ago) link
I wd be stunned if Neneh didn't make it
― YES TYPE all your albums ballot out and post them here (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:47 (nine years ago) link
Opening track sounds like a peppy retread of Massive Attack's Protection. Not such a bad thing
― ear sirrom (imago), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:48 (nine years ago) link
Put those horns away though, jesus
Was referring to Sitek
― Simon H., Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:48 (nine years ago) link
Kelis making it made me wonder for a moment abt Meshell but I just don't see that happening...(xxxp)
― YES TYPE all your albums ballot out and post them here (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:49 (nine years ago) link
lol if you hate the horns you should probably quit now xp
― Simon H., Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:49 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/3tmF1ct.jpg
58 KASSEM MOSSE Workshop 19 [282 points, 13 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:49 (nine years ago) link
http://94.136.40.103/~pestcontrolliverpool.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/mice.jpg
― MikoMcha, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:50 (nine years ago) link
growing vpon the head of a man?
― ear sirrom (imago), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:50 (nine years ago) link
Jerk Ribs is much better
― ear sirrom (imago), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:52 (nine years ago) link
I keep hearing great things about Kassem Mosse but each time I check him out it's not much more than nothingy IDM-house that leaves no impression. Maybe I need to give it a more focused listen.
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:52 (nine years ago) link
Cheesem Mice
haven't heard the whole kelis album, but the horn arrangements aren't a problem on "jerk ribs"
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:53 (nine years ago) link
Käse Mice, m8
― ear sirrom (imago), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:53 (nine years ago) link
This benefits from really good speakers/headphones.
― MikoMcha, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:53 (nine years ago) link
Tune-Yards: a band I should love on paper but just annoy the hell out of me.
Voted for Food; unsurprising it didn't do well on the charts, but thought it'd get more critical attention. Greg Kot had it as his #1 iirc but it didn't seem to garner much more attention. I don't mind the production, but Sitek's definitely heavy-handed.
― Indexed, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:54 (nine years ago) link
kassem mosse! another of my votes. immaculately produced headrush techno, platonic ideal of what i want to stay up all night dancing to. yeah it's anonymous and has no use for you if you're not a clubber but this is not my or his problem
untitled b1
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:54 (nine years ago) link
Lex pretend otm Not everyone listens to music in a basement
― strychnine, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:56 (nine years ago) link
So you need really good headphones, but also to be dancing.
― ear sirrom (imago), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:57 (nine years ago) link
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, January 27, 2015 9:35 AM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
"chalky"! very perfect word choice. i've really not been able to enjoy what any of her post-Neptunes collaborators have done with that voice, it's an unusual instrument.
― some dude, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:58 (nine years ago) link
This seems fine to me. I'd put it on around the house while cooking or something.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:58 (nine years ago) link
definitely when I've gone out dancing, I've been most excited when the DJ just throws on an album and peaces for 45 minutes
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:58 (nine years ago) link
kelis album called food
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:59 (nine years ago) link
ah sweet had A2 on a playlist and enjoyed it whenever it came ongood choice ilm, will pay more attention to the rest of their catalogue
― nxd, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:00 (nine years ago) link
I was talking about the Mosse album, but the Kelis album would be great for that too.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:00 (nine years ago) link
i'll def give kassem another go. it could well have been the anonymity that put me off unnecessarily. i hate it when albums/EPs come with an oblique number in the title as I generally assume it's number 19 in a series. It ruined Aphex on Analord.
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:02 (nine years ago) link
The Kassem sounds ideal this AM.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:08 (nine years ago) link
i hate it when albums/EPs come with an oblique number in the title as I generally assume it's number 19 in a series
it was
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:08 (nine years ago) link
the 19th release on the workshop label, that is
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:09 (nine years ago) link
that Kelis album had one track "Fish Friday?" totally grab me in the listen-to-noms phase, I should give it a listen
― sleeve, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:09 (nine years ago) link
ive been in bed listening to the kassem mosse album and it still sounded good tbh
― Stig of the sanctimonious uncontextualized linkdump (Michael B), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:10 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/FU5A8cG.jpg
57 BOTANIST VI: Flora [285 points, 10 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:12 (nine years ago) link
YES
― tangenttangent, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:13 (nine years ago) link
― Stig of the sanctimonious uncontextualized linkdump (Michael B)
is the "B" for bum ;)
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:13 (nine years ago) link
Oh, I liked what I heard of this, should give it a bit more play.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:14 (nine years ago) link
Nice!
― Simon H., Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:14 (nine years ago) link
wots this sound like
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:14 (nine years ago) link
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:15 (nine years ago) link
Kew Gardens-infused intricate metal
― tangenttangent, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:16 (nine years ago) link
fantastic album artknow nothing about this, but two tracks in and it's sounding awesome
― nxd, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:17 (nine years ago) link
Cinnamomum Parthenoxylon and Leucadendron Argenteum are highlights for me, though the album in its entirety is sumptuously blissed-out sonic foliage for the spirit.
― tangenttangent, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:19 (nine years ago) link
Oh nice one! Given me hope for Menace Ruine,Yob, Agalloch, Electric Wizard and Scott 0))) now
― Get Ducked (Cosmic Slop), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:23 (nine years ago) link
Lush guitars on this. I like it. Only heard after the metal poll so I haven't had much time with it yet.
― jmm, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:24 (nine years ago) link
Just 49 points separating all the albums so far
― groovypanda, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:24 (nine years ago) link
Don't get your hopes up yet, CS
but yeah my 3rd one to make it :)
― YES TYPE all your albums ballot out and post them here (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:25 (nine years ago) link
It's only a hair away from Deafheaven but for some reason I find this a lot more striking.
― jmm, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:26 (nine years ago) link
Yeah I like it way better than any Deafheaven I've heard
― YES TYPE all your albums ballot out and post them here (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:30 (nine years ago) link
Botanist is the guy who makes metal on a giant dulcimer right? I've heard some of it and it's quite interesting as a curiosity, but how does this differ from his other work?
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:31 (nine years ago) link
My first vote to place! #16 on my ballot. Absolutely stunning record, heavy and gorgeous, nothing like Deafheaven because he can write melodies and songs. A brief read of the concept behind the artist is quite elucidating too.
― ear sirrom (imago), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:32 (nine years ago) link
Bit underwhelmed by Workshop 19 - I only play the B3 off that one.
workshops 1 and 6 are killer!
Lex pretend otmNot everyone listens to music in a basement
― strychnine, T
If it contributes towards general wellbeing its totally ok to play in the woods too
― saer, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:32 (nine years ago) link
kassem mosse! another of my votes. immaculately produced headrush techno, platonic ideal of what i want to stay up all night dancing to. yeah it's anonymous and has no use for you if you're not a clubber but this is not my or his problem― lex pretend, Tuesday, January 27, 2015 8:54 AM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― lex pretend, Tuesday, January 27, 2015 8:54 AM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Haha, I tried to get into this album late in December by listening to it with headphones on while falling asleep, and ... no.
― Tove Lo Tove You Baby (jaymc), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:32 (nine years ago) link
I say 'heavy' - it is - but it is not crushing - rather, monumental
― ear sirrom (imago), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:33 (nine years ago) link
Haha I think it was #16 on my ballot as well
― YES TYPE all your albums ballot out and post them here (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:35 (nine years ago) link
re Botanist
foliage for the spirit.
between this and the name and cover I risked a quick play.
oh no, a trojan horse:(
― saer, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:35 (nine years ago) link
Ah, so it's lush dulcimer, not lush guitar?
― jmm, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:35 (nine years ago) link
im enjoying this freddie gibbs and madlib, havent listened to anything madlib in so long but he is still good, his productions always have such a nice sound
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:35 (nine years ago) link
xVI
― nxd, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:35 (nine years ago) link
this album rules. I had it high up. I think FOOD just crept on to my ballot too.
― cajunsunday, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:36 (nine years ago) link
saer ive played botanist in plug.dj before when you were in
― Get Ducked (Cosmic Slop), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:37 (nine years ago) link
I've heard some of it and it's quite interesting as a curiosity, but how does this differ from his other work?
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Tuesday, January 27, 2015 7:31 AM (2 minutes ago)
black metal harshness dialed back on flora relative to past efforts. i'm glad to see it show up, though it wasn't one of the year's standout metal albums for me. prefer installments III and IV tbh.
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:38 (nine years ago) link
I was similarly misled, this cover is completely incorrect and should be changed by trading standards. it's true about madlib though
― ogmor, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:38 (nine years ago) link
ogmor you're a plug regular too you have no excuse
― Get Ducked (Cosmic Slop), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:42 (nine years ago) link
― saer, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:35 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'm sorry, I should have qualified that this foliage was less that of deepest woodland and more heathered clearing... I'm sure there'll be something on here for you. Maybe.
― tangenttangent, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:44 (nine years ago) link
yessssz
― gr8080, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:45 (nine years ago) link
Found some footage of saerhttp://youtu.be/u8pZkDTKTNw
― Get Ducked (Cosmic Slop), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:46 (nine years ago) link
Almost got distracted thinking about this album, but have sprung free from the foliage and just about made my train
― ear sirrom (imago), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:46 (nine years ago) link
Kew Gardens metal also a description I will borrow
― ear sirrom (imago), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:48 (nine years ago) link
i prefer botanist when less about the astral blissout, more some creepy little wrigglers in the underbrush
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IrJb2YMlV8
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:50 (nine years ago) link
this is another album with a number, sadly.
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:51 (nine years ago) link
I reckon VI is all about the astral creepy wrigglers blissing out in the undergrowth tbh
Latin numbers, too!
― ear sirrom (imago), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:53 (nine years ago) link
this album had better be triffic!
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:55 (nine years ago) link
http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=77&threadid=67116
― some dude, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:55 (nine years ago) link
'astral blissout' is really one of the highest modes music can achieve
― YES TYPE all your albums ballot out and post them here (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:55 (nine years ago) link
xp i think you might want to expand to those of us that can't see board 77
― nxd, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:56 (nine years ago) link
I probably wouldn't think to associate this with botany without the many cues, but I like the idea of black metal devoted to small organic forms rather than, what seems to be more typical, the sublime on a grander scale.
― jmm, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:57 (nine years ago) link
it's a cool concept. like swamp thing meets hammered dulcimer meets black metal. i will def check this new album out.
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:58 (nine years ago) link
kind of want him to team up with Konono No1 or something and have an electrified tuned percussion face-off
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:00 (nine years ago) link
Kassem Mosse and Botanist are both albums I've listened to once and enjoyed but not revisited yet. Hoping for some more metal to place but I don't think any of my atmospheric/prog-BM picks will make it.
― Gavin, Leeds, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:00 (nine years ago) link
it would be quite a strange year if lots of metal placed, but it's not beyond the realms or reality. lots of high-profile releases as Cosmic Slop mentioned, but I don't know why it would happen this year necessarily and not previous years.
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:02 (nine years ago) link
I could see it happening due to there being fewer niche-consensus releases in other genres (if that's the case)
― Simon H., Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:04 (nine years ago) link
The Wizard may show. Ruine is a glorious outside shot. Fever's given Botanist nearly an hour. Very mice of him.
― ear sirrom (imago), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:06 (nine years ago) link
while we're still on botanist, less blissfuly still:
deathcap, track II from botanist III
still probably more discernable as emotive post rock than black metal, even with "experimental" tag enhancement, but i love the bright, spiky tone of the (clearly) hammered dulcimer. much less fuzz besotted than on later albums. puts my mind to pinhead, or the final act of audition maybe.
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:06 (nine years ago) link
I could see Earth or Yob placing. ScottO))) and Swans are dead certs, although I don't think of them as bona fide metal records.
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:07 (nine years ago) link
tbh i only expect scott 0))) now dog latin
― Get Ducked (Cosmic Slop), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:07 (nine years ago) link
These are great contendo, will check later :)
― ear sirrom (imago), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:08 (nine years ago) link
swans yeah tho not metal (despite being in metal poll)
― Get Ducked (Cosmic Slop), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:08 (nine years ago) link
Maybe Fever has given us this long coz it's the only metal :D
― ear sirrom (imago), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:09 (nine years ago) link
totally enjoying having time to listen to this album in its entirety right now
― nxd, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:09 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/e54S2gh.jpg
56 STEVE GUNN Way Out Weather [286 points, 9 votes, 1 first place vote]
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:09 (nine years ago) link
would be nuts if none of the metal poll top ten didn't make it but possible
10 Jute Gyte - Ressentiment 697 Points, 18 votes9 Earth - Primitive and Deadly 738 Points, 21 votes , ONE #18 Scott Walker & SunnO))) - Soused 799 Points, 21 votes, TWO #1s7 Darkspace - Dark Space III I 813 Points, 22 votes , ONE #16 Godflesh - A World Lit Only By Fire 876 Points, 23 votes, THREE #1s5 Triptykon - Melana Chasmata 1078 Points, 27 votes FIVE #1's4 Electric Wizard - Time to Die 1130 Points, 27 votes THREE #1's3 Agalloch - The Serpent & the Sphere 1165 Points, 31 votes, Three #1s2 Pallbearer - Foundations of Burden 1233 Points, 33 votes, One #1
nice!1 YOB - Clearing the Path to Ascend 1240 Points, 32 votes , THREE #1s
― Get Ducked (Cosmic Slop), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:10 (nine years ago) link
oops the nice shoulda been for the steve gunn
― Get Ducked (Cosmic Slop), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:11 (nine years ago) link
this is a post-Fahey guitar guy, right?
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:11 (nine years ago) link
xxxp Soft Pink Truth still a possibility (FALSE I know but still), there are plenty of Matmos/ ILM's very own D Daniel fans around aren't thera?
― Ratt in Mi Kitchen (Neil S), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:11 (nine years ago) link
that'll def place, Neil.
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:12 (nine years ago) link
nice, enjoy thiks record a lot
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:13 (nine years ago) link
Never heard of Steve Gunn before but I like the album cover.
― Gavin, Leeds, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:14 (nine years ago) link
SPT not really a metal album but will place quite high. Also incredible. Wonder if I'd like Steve Gunn...
― ear sirrom (imago), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:14 (nine years ago) link
I'd prob be more stoked about Godflesh placing than any of the top 5. Though tbh I only voted for Earth and J Gyte. (Xp to CS)
I'm loving a lot of this bottom third though
― YES TYPE all your albums ballot out and post them here (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:15 (nine years ago) link
I dont expect any to place bar scott 0)))
― Get Ducked (Cosmic Slop), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:17 (nine years ago) link
it has elements of that but it's expansive guitar-based singer songwriter stuff - richard thompson or eleventh dream day are probably good points of comparison. excellent record, which has grown on me more with every listen. try Tommy's Congo
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:18 (nine years ago) link
xpost feel like Earth is most likely to place other than that.
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:18 (nine years ago) link
sleepy americana
― ogmor, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:19 (nine years ago) link
I think I'm the only regular on the ILX Brigade thread who was not totally into this Steve Gunn record, but I'm happy to see it place
xp hmm listening to this thru a Richard Thompson lens may increase my appreciation
― sleeve, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:19 (nine years ago) link
love this album so much
― example (crüt), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:19 (nine years ago) link
Wonder if I'd like Steve Gunn...
― ear sirrom (imago), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:14 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
He's touring with War on Drugs if that helps...
― tangenttangent, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:20 (nine years ago) link
steve gunn is nothing like war on drugs if that helps
― example (crüt), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:21 (nine years ago) link
wow, this is very, very nice. superficially maybe in real estate territory (?), but the overt raga folk & retro psych elements make it so much more relaxed, inviting & lush - richard thompson otm. i was for a while keeping tabs on things vile & violators-related, but appear to have completely missed the boat on gunn. fucking LOVE this.
- sincere thanks, a fan
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:21 (nine years ago) link
Guilt by association not always foolproof :P
― ear sirrom (imago), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:22 (nine years ago) link
Yes! re Botanist. I think it was top 5 for me. Never heard of most of the rest of these but the most recent one sounds like it may be up my alley. "Singer-songwriter" tag leaves me a little antsy but I love Thompson and like Fahey.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:22 (nine years ago) link
hey it has it's tense moments!
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:23 (nine years ago) link
can't wait to listen to Steve Gunn in the springtime
― example (crüt), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:23 (nine years ago) link
I really dug the Gunn-Truscinski album from a couple years ago but never listened to this
― YES TYPE all your albums ballot out and post them here (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:26 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/fy22dpz.jpg
55 RONIKA Selectadisc [288 points, 10 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:31 (nine years ago) link
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Tuesday, January 27, 2015 8:23 AM (2 minutes ago)
i'm at the hot takes stage w gunn, but track 3 does up the energy & rock quotient, with exile-style memphis soul detailing. not sure how i feel about it, tbh. was really digging the stoned pastoral folk vibe (to which we return on track 4).
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:31 (nine years ago) link
I've been trying to get Ronika in the tracks poll for 3 years, so I'm glad she finally put out an album.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:32 (nine years ago) link
just missed out on my cutbut a wonderful collection of pop songs
― nxd, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:32 (nine years ago) link
― ear sirrom (imago), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:22 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
But in this case...
No no, maybe I jumped the gun (not a pun). This is like War on Drugs only in the flailing, low impact of it all. It's sort of dusty, sultry Americana. It might be nice, I can't really tell just yet.
― tangenttangent, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:32 (nine years ago) link
yeah Ronika!
― example (crüt), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:32 (nine years ago) link
in <3 with '1000 nights'
― nxd, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:33 (nine years ago) link
Sultry Americana tends to be a magic eye thing around the small details imo - either it leaps into ethereal glory or it lies there like a sunbathing sidewinder. The Weyes Blood album was the best example this year imo of something transcending mere pastoralia and finding some sort of impossibly gorgeous mesmeric power
― ear sirrom (imago), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:36 (nine years ago) link
A little late to chime in regarding Steve Gunn but I'd urge anyone willing to check out "Wildwood" from that album.
― Evan, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:38 (nine years ago) link
sleeve, just check out the guitar playing on 'drifter'
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:40 (nine years ago) link
xxp
I adored the Weyes Blood too! Wishfully imagining that it might weave its splendid way into the murky middle waters of the albums poll. I like my fair share of wispy Americana too, but it has to really eat away at the brain and this just wasn't parasitic enough.
― tangenttangent, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:41 (nine years ago) link
Imagine an early Madonna record produced by Nile Rodgers, entirely and very well self-produced over three years in a Nottingham bedroom. If you're into this sort of thing, the only fault is that while reprising her singles output, it omits the best one, "Automatic", from last yer.
― non-masturbatory prog excursion (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:41 (nine years ago) link
Oh yeah the Ronika album is really good.
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:42 (nine years ago) link
Love this Ronika album. It's the kind of album I wish Annie would come back with.
― Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:44 (nine years ago) link
ronika! which i cut from my ballot
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:46 (nine years ago) link
Tune-Yards way too low. My #2 and better than whokill IMO. Also "Water Fountain" is the least best track in an otherwise brilliant first half. So, if that's putting you off, try "Look Around" or "Find A New Way" instead. Love Merrill's voice though can understand why it's marmitey.
I slogged dutifully through the Ronika a few weeks back, albeit not under ideal listening conditions. I can see why ppl here like her but I wasn't convinced. I may give it another try.
― Jeff W, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:46 (nine years ago) link
imo it should be summer
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:48 (nine years ago) link
Ronika sounds great so far
― gr8080, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:48 (nine years ago) link
i never bothered with ronika bc of third-tier popjusticebait assumptions - wow this is derivative as hell BUT somehow doesn't just seem like dead-end pastiche. i think it's the backing vox that do it. idk if i need an album of it though
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:48 (nine years ago) link
oh wait the song ended and i've just somehow put on actual early madonna instead of another ronika track, oh well
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:49 (nine years ago) link
With lex on the "derivative as hell" except I also think it's dead-end pastiche, pass on Ronika
― Tay-Tay Brooklynpants (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:52 (nine years ago) link
her enthusiasm shines through imo
― example (crüt), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:52 (nine years ago) link
Yeah she's better than a lot of that Popjustice friendly bollocks, quality of songwriting helps here. The album runs out of steam towards the end but the first third in particular is loads of fun, played it a lot in the early summer, which is when you need albums like this. 'In The City' is my favourite.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:53 (nine years ago) link
wow this is derivative as hell BUT somehow doesn't just seem like dead-end pastiche
basically its appeal. also connects early madonna explicitly to freestyle so
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:53 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/LgBHUxy.jpg
54 MOODYMANN Moodymann [291 points, 12 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:53 (nine years ago) link
yeahhhhh i voted for thissss onnnne
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:54 (nine years ago) link
this album is weed
Album Covers Featuring Tiny People Living In The Artist's Or Cover Model's Hair
― sleeve, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:54 (nine years ago) link
yes! one of the albums I listened to the most this year
― Dan S, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:55 (nine years ago) link
brad which ronika tracks have freestyle? i did not hear it in "1000 nights" but that is relevant to my interests
i love moodymann yet somehow COMPLETELY missed that he released an album last year until EOY list time; i intend to hear it but haven't had time yet
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:55 (nine years ago) link
The finest Ronika tracks IMO are at the end of the album: 1000 Nights and Search Siren.
― mike t-diva, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:55 (nine years ago) link
"forget yourself" imo!
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:55 (nine years ago) link
Too much dicking about on this one, 27 tracks on a single album is just ridiculous, there's some terrific grooves on this one but he never allows them for settle for too long in a way that I find absolutely infuriating.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:56 (nine years ago) link
and "only only"
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:56 (nine years ago) link
that's why i like this moodymann record so much actually, it's just as long as his others but keeps moving between ideas
Moodymann is one of those perennial names i see on ilm and nowhere else for years and years without having any idea what it is besides "ilm loves it"
― some dude, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:57 (nine years ago) link
I usually get as far as 'Video Collection' and think 'you're trying too hard now'. There's one enjoyable one right at the end but it feels like too much of a Technique-era New Order rip to really love.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:58 (nine years ago) link
I didn't really hear '27 tracks' when it was playing, though. It felt like one long piece
― Dan S, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:58 (nine years ago) link
oh christ i forgot how much i loved ronika's "in the city"
exquisite construction
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:58 (nine years ago) link
Missed a bunch of time here but I am starting to think "infantilism" doesn't mean what you guys think it does wrt:tuneyards
― a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:58 (nine years ago) link
he's pretty much a house legend, some dude
moodymann's afternoon set at sónar a few years ago was one of the best sets i've ever experienced
xps
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:58 (nine years ago) link
Is this one of those Cockney rhyming slang things
― a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:59 (nine years ago) link
I'm currently on a train for the first time in months, hence using headphones for the first time in months. This is making Ninos Du Brasil sound glorious, every bit as good as the track which placed last week.
― mike t-diva, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:59 (nine years ago) link
ooh heard the track he did with andres just the other day and loved itwill check out this record
― nxd, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:00 (nine years ago) link
he's from detroit iirc, me old china
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:02 (nine years ago) link
"forget yourself" seems more tom tom club than freestyle imo? again it's ok i guess
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:04 (nine years ago) link
well i'm prob overstating it
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:06 (nine years ago) link
House flute slow jam hash odyssey. This is very listenable so far.
― tangenttangent, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:07 (nine years ago) link
The Moodymann mix of Cosmic Slop towards the end of the record is amazing
― quan voice (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:08 (nine years ago) link
"Shell Shocked" is the freestyle Ronika I think
― example (crüt), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:08 (nine years ago) link
why you gotta be so rmde (NickB)Posted: January 27, 2015 at 11:02:34 AMIs this one of those Cockney rhyming slang things
Haha I was making a joke about britsh people and this whole infantilism thing, but as usual I wasn't terribly clear
― a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:09 (nine years ago) link
couldn't find a way into ronika after botanist & steve gunn. sounded like shallow 80s pop pastiche, and the songwriting wasn't drawing me in.
but fuck i LOVE the moodymann album. i went on a massive moody bender after "discovering" him a few years ago, and it's great to have new album of this quality to slot in with silentintroduction, black mahogani, etc. such a gorgeous front-to-back listen.
^ brad nelson otm. you want longer grooves? there's a dj for that.
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:10 (nine years ago) link
I sorta admired and appreciated this when I heard it, but didn't deeply connect. Moodymann in general is obviously all time tho.
― MikoMcha, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:11 (nine years ago) link
The annoying infantilised adult is a fairly common archetype in gentrified London and a quick image search for Tune-Yards suggests her entire image is based around being a particularly egregious version of that, and that's before you even get onto the music itself.
Disclaimer, I've not listened to any of the lyrics.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link
sorry jjj, i think i missed a few posts there
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link
voted "lyk u used 2" in the tracks poll but i think this missed my albums ballot. good album
― gr8080, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link
It's probably best if everyone logs out now and comes back in a half hour or so while #53 sits here uncommented upon...
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:14 (nine years ago) link
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:14 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/UFgid4D.jpg
53 SUN KIL MOON Benji [292 points, 9 votes]
well i'm glad it's this low
ha
― gr8080, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link
Errr... whatever the opposite of mice is.
― MikoMcha, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link
Rats!
― ear sirrom (imago), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link
hate this dude
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:16 (nine years ago) link
this is one of the worst, most unbearable things I heard all year, wanted to kill the guy after about three minutes of his sad-sack routine
― sleeve, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:16 (nine years ago) link
omg are they the people who did that hilariously pathetic diss track about that other indie band? lmao didn't realise they weren't a joke act
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:16 (nine years ago) link
Hope War on Drugs is next at 52
― Tay-Tay Brooklynpants (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:16 (nine years ago) link
Glad this album exists if only for provoking the greatest piece of music journalism this year.
And it's nothing to do with that diss track.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:16 (nine years ago) link
xxxxps if you did you'd be giving him ideas for the follow up
― nxd, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:17 (nine years ago) link
Still think Run The Jewels will provoke the angriest and most animated post-placement discussion
― ear sirrom (imago), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:17 (nine years ago) link
http://www.theunitedpatriot.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/img_54914eb0911e5.jpg
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:17 (nine years ago) link
tbh i loved almost everything red house painters ever did but was never able to get in to anything he's done since
his set at pitchfork was kinda nice 4pm wash-over-you background noise i didn't focus on but enjoyed
― gr8080, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:18 (nine years ago) link
? nah
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:18 (nine years ago) link
panerawave
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:18 (nine years ago) link
Matt, you should probably listen to tune-yard's lyrics, or at least read them (and bear in mind that this is coming from the #1 booster of never paying attention to lyrics)
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:19 (nine years ago) link
Most of the negative RTJ discussion has been along the lines of "not my thing, glad these dudes made it" with a side order of "El-P still can't rap". If it's the most controversial placement I'll be amazed.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:19 (nine years ago) link
otm except i like the first two proper skm albums
his stream-of-consciousness death and bar decorations stuff basically revived his career but it's total garbage imo
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:19 (nine years ago) link
There's some great stuff on this album but it's no Perils From the Sea (or any peak RHP/SKM obviously)
― Simon H., Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:19 (nine years ago) link
Same. It's weird, because it's not wildly different, but it just seems like he's been on autopilot for close to 15 years.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:19 (nine years ago) link
xps hey look jason segel and billy crystal had a very angry baby
― quan voice (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:20 (nine years ago) link
there is almost no way RTJ2 pisses people off as much as kozelek on any number of levels, though it'll def inspire some grumbling
― i'm tellin you it was kenard (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:20 (nine years ago) link
this piece pretty much summed up how i felt about this ludicrous record:
http://beardedgentlemenmusic.com/2014/02/11/sun-kil-moon-benji-sucks/
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:20 (nine years ago) link
I liked it better when he wrote actual songs with actual melodies
glad to see steve gunn for some ilx brigade luv
kuhn narin is so awesome, i would have voted for both of those had i voted
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:20 (nine years ago) link
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:21 (nine years ago) link
Sun Kil Moon hasn't inspired much angry debate, as it's so obviously a load of terrible horseshit whose voters won't be able to defend it
― Scrabble: A classic board-game that Mark Kozelek likes to play with his (imago), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:22 (nine years ago) link
SKM's ghosts of the great highway from like, 2003 i think, is pretty all right, but benji is so far away from that sound it's not even funny
― i'm tellin you it was kenard (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:24 (nine years ago) link
i mean i get it there's a ton of mundanity contrasted with the inexorable advance of death on this record which really resonates with a certain demographic, i just think it's lazy garbage
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:24 (nine years ago) link
the self-consciousness of it is really off-puttng
It made me want to listen to 'I See A Darkness' and not any other Kozelek material.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:25 (nine years ago) link
there's also a song on here about kozelek's early sexual experiences which no one needed
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:26 (nine years ago) link
a certain demographic
like ian cohen and critics of his ilk who fancy themselves as like, inheritors and/or appreciators of this updike suburban anomie burden
― i'm tellin you it was kenard (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:26 (nine years ago) link
if no one likes this album, how did it manage to get any votes?
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:27 (nine years ago) link
haha that review :D
― Scrabble: A classic board-game that Mark Kozelek likes to play with his (imago), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:27 (nine years ago) link
still kind of feel like Tavoris Cloud is his best song from this new period.Fave Kozelek iteration: Ghosts of the Great Highway
― campreverb, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:28 (nine years ago) link
This is true.
― MikoMcha, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:29 (nine years ago) link
Ghosts of the Great Highway is a near-classic, April is one of my favorite records ever, and Perils From the Sea, the record he did in 2013 with the album leaf guy, was really good too, but this one didn't work for me at all, i think it's his weakest record.
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:29 (nine years ago) link
From the moment I clicked 'submit' on that post I knew exactly what some of those lyrics were going to end up being about and reading some of them confirms that - zing revoked.
Her image and aesthetic are still terrible though.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:29 (nine years ago) link
I really like Benji and I found a lot of the songs- Jim Wise, Micheline etc - genuinely affecting. I love the layered guitar work too. That said, it's the only real thing of Kozelek's that I know. I know very little about him as a person or his previous work or the WOD thing. This album will remind me of lone summer evening bike rides in the countryside near where I live. It's too easy to be cynical about music like this I guess.
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:30 (nine years ago) link
Name and shame the voters.
― strychnine, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:32 (nine years ago) link
― quan voice (voodoo chili), Tuesday, January 27, 2015 10:20 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
dying @ this
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:32 (nine years ago) link
loool
― gr8080, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:32 (nine years ago) link
This record kinda of reminded me of Marc Maron's self-depreciating freestyles on WTF.
― MikoMcha, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:33 (nine years ago) link
my hot tip for no-one in particular: listen to 'two coffins' off the against me! record instead - none of the self-indulgence and 100 times shorter to boot
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:34 (nine years ago) link
Sun Kil Moon hasn't inspired much angry debate, as it's so obviously a load of terrible horseshit whose voters won't be able to defend it― Scrabble: A classic board-game that Mark Kozelek likes to play with his (imago), Tuesday, January 27, 2015 5:22 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark
― Scrabble: A classic board-game that Mark Kozelek likes to play with his (imago), Tuesday, January 27, 2015 5:22 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark
ugh dude
― a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:34 (nine years ago) link
like i dont give 2 shits abt sun kil moon but how do you post that and not feel immediately embarrassed about it
NickB OTM
― sleeve, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:35 (nine years ago) link
Pray for Newtown put it over the top for me.
― campreverb, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:35 (nine years ago) link
The annoying infantilised adult is a fairly common archetype in gentrified London and a quick image search for Tune-Yards suggests her entire image is based around being a particularly egregious version of that, and that's before you even get onto the music itself.Disclaimer, I've not listened to any of the lyrics.― Matt DC, Tuesday, January 27, 2015 9:13 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post PermalinkMatt, you should probably listen to tune-yard's lyrics, or at least read them (and bear in mind that this is coming from the #1 booster of never paying attention to lyrics)― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Tuesday, January 27, 2015 9:19 AM (17 seconds ago)
― Matt DC, Tuesday, January 27, 2015 9:13 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Tuesday, January 27, 2015 9:19 AM (17 seconds ago)
recommended
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:35 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/ZPyWpGA.jpg
52 FENNESZ Bécs [306 points, 12 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:36 (nine years ago) link
to contribute something positive though, "i saw the film 'the song remains the same'" is a good exmaple of a good kozilek song in his new superconfessional , its the bright spot on the record for me
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:37 (nine years ago) link
superconfessional style, rather
Was really looking forward to this one after he was like, "this is Endless Summer Part 2, y'all!" but it didn't really stick with me
― Tay-Tay Brooklynpants (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:37 (nine years ago) link
first of mine to place! lots of very beautiful sounds on this one
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:38 (nine years ago) link
I liked this Fennesz record, after a few times through it revealed more teeth & claws than the 'Endless Summer Pt. 2" retread I was expecting after my first listen
― sleeve, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:38 (nine years ago) link
Heh. I voted for this one, but wasn't too sure it would place.
― MarkoP, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:39 (nine years ago) link
liminality was the standout track for me
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:39 (nine years ago) link
skipped this completely, not sure why. i'd heard it was out way back when, read good things. something to look forward to...
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:40 (nine years ago) link
i have not listened to fennesz since black sea and kinda forgot he put out something new
― indie fuxxor albums i have secretly spotified (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link
Sorry JJJ. The board seemed pretty unanimous though. I did get carried away.
― Scrabble: A classic board-game that Mark Kozelek likes to play with his (imago), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link
Listened to Liminality on the noms Spotify. It's OK, sounded like Fennesz.
Really loved Endless Summer when it came out, but increasingly got the impression from it over the years that it rides a lot of MAX/MSP FX and gloss, which was definitely interesting at the time, but now also comes across as a bit like a demo reel from a studio technician.
― MikoMcha, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:43 (nine years ago) link
that record cover looks really dated. enjoyed it when i heard it but never went back
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:43 (nine years ago) link
Fennesz was one of the last things I cut from my ballot. It's shimmery!
― example (crüt), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:44 (nine years ago) link
I like the Fennesz better than anything I've heard of his in a while and it deserves a place here, but imo this record is not as good as Ben Frost's AURORA, which was released around the same time and which is flat out amazing
― Dan S, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:46 (nine years ago) link
I keep meaning to listen to that Ben Frost album, but then again I had no idea Fennesz even released anything this year.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:47 (nine years ago) link
i remember feeling very nonplussed when i heard endless summer, which was an ilm fave back in the day. nothing happened in it!
things are happening in "liminality" but i'm not sure i like the fuzzy wash of guitars in general, i prefer my contemplative instrumental music a bit sharper than this. i wonder if the francis harris album will place.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:49 (nine years ago) link
i listened to the fennesz back catalog the other day in anticipation of hearing this but i just wasn't feeling it tbh, there's something a little kitschy in a bland way about some of the tracks on black sea.
lee gamble - koch probably won't place but it hits so much harder and better in my own "weird ambient with teeth" category.
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:50 (nine years ago) link
Also enjoyed Fennesz but didn't longlist it for my ballot. Partly because I think I just had less of a drone year this year. Gutted that the one time I saw him live (with Grouper AND Natural Snow Buildings supporting, omg) he got the plug pulled on him when he was bossing the damn church.
― All The Craigers Gonna Craig Craig Craig Craig Craig (Craigo Boingo), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:50 (nine years ago) link
just got here but wanted to cheer for BOTANIST yay@!
― Mordy, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:50 (nine years ago) link
Given some of the albums that have placed I'd say there's a decent chance of Lee Gamble showing up.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:50 (nine years ago) link
Is it worth a bet though? /sorry
― All The Craigers Gonna Craig Craig Craig Craig Craig (Craigo Boingo), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:52 (nine years ago) link
a cunning punt right there
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:55 (nine years ago) link
did roll the dice release an album this year?
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:56 (nine years ago) link
Endless Summer was one of the most important records for me in my teenage years, and is still a very emotional and rewarding listen. This album sounds good but hasn't really hooked me.
― abcfsk, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:57 (nine years ago) link
yes xp
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:57 (nine years ago) link
Venice was the one that was important to me in my teenage years, remember listening to it on repeat in high school with my Minidisc player also lol Minidisc
― Tay-Tay Brooklynpants (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:58 (nine years ago) link
― All The Craigers Gonna Craig Craig Craig Craig Craig (Craigo Boingo), Tuesday, January 27, 2015 5:50 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I was at this, it was a really good gig
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:59 (nine years ago) link
yeah this year's roll the dice was pretty good i thought, though it sort of fell out of regular listening by the end
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:59 (nine years ago) link
I voted for it, not holding out much hope for it placing
lee gamble will i think
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:00 (nine years ago) link
I like Benji
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:00 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/6B6VEO2.jpg
51 A WINGED VICTORY FOR THE SULLEN Atomos [309 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote]
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:03 (nine years ago) link
Very gorgeous album, as expected, but didn't really think to place it on my list :(
― Tay-Tay Brooklynpants (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:04 (nine years ago) link
Only discovered that this month, but I love it.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:05 (nine years ago) link
oh nice didn't realize this had an ilx following
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:05 (nine years ago) link
oh hey this is in my review pile, have not heard yet
― sleeve, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:08 (nine years ago) link
Matt DC what did you like about tune-yards lyrics? or did i misread you here
From the moment I clicked 'submit' on that post I knew exactly what some of those lyrics were going to end up being about and reading some of them confirms that - zing revoked.Her image and aesthetic are still terrible though.
― flopson, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:08 (nine years ago) link
Pleasant background music, an easier listen than, for example, fellow Kranky artist Grouper. I like it, even though it barely made my top 500 :)
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:08 (nine years ago) link
wow this winged victory band is goodlike stars of the lid meets max richter
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:09 (nine years ago) link
That's because it's one of the members of SOTL with another guy
― Tay-Tay Brooklynpants (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:10 (nine years ago) link
Matt DC what did you like about tune-yards lyrics?
I realised that 'infantilised' was inappropriate given some of the subject matter.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:10 (nine years ago) link
winged victory are fantastic. didn't get my vote, but only because i hadn't given it enough time.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:12 (nine years ago) link
ahhhh just googled the lyrics to water fountain, got it
― flopson, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:14 (nine years ago) link
Fennesz was the last thing I cut from my ballot. Didn't like Black Sea that much but for some reason this one clicked with me a lot. It's one of my favourite album covers of the year too.
― Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:16 (nine years ago) link
I voted Sun Kil Moon my #2 pick. I was floored by the excruciating confessionals and found quite affecting (and at times disturbing, e.g. his handwaving of parental beatings in "I love my dad") and its one of the most gut-wrenching depictions of working class American childhood/adolescence. I think people are writing this album off due to Kozelek's (admittedly assholish) public persona.
― Stig of the sanctimonious uncontextualized linkdump (Michael B), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:17 (nine years ago) link
i found the asshole public persona stuff hilarious
― flopson, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:18 (nine years ago) link
xp no, I genuinely hated it with a passion just from listening to whatever came up on shuffle, and have not been following the media circus
― sleeve, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:19 (nine years ago) link
xp yeah for this reason I've avoided any news stories about kozelek this year. Doubt I'll check anything else out by him but I like Benji as a single thing.
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:19 (nine years ago) link
^^^^ This is the first thing I've read that has made me interested in hearing Sun Kil Moon
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:19 (nine years ago) link
Love Atomos. First of mine to place but I forgot to vote for Steve Gunn & Real Estate.
― groovypanda, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:20 (nine years ago) link
it's fine if ppl don't want to hear a middle-aged dude work through his shit but lol @ everyone being like "my ears! my ears!" it was a unique, affecting record for me and i'm glad to see it place.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:21 (nine years ago) link
the song about thinking about his mom dying really got me, it was so painful and raw and the feelings weren't masked with any kind of poetry, just thinking about my own mom what i would do if she died
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:23 (nine years ago) link
yeah "I Can't Live Without My Mother's Love" is the clear standout to me
― Simon H., Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:24 (nine years ago) link
Yeah but lol scrabble tho right?
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:24 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/Q4cK8hC.jpg
50 ALVVAYS Alvvays [314 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:25 (nine years ago) link
I'm thinking the new Marilyn Manson is not the correct lead-in to be in the right frame of mind to appreciate Sun Kil Moon based on the agonizing minute of "Carissa" I just sat through
I think it's likely there is something worth exploring here but oh man, not now
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:25 (nine years ago) link
Feel bad for dismissing it so violently and denying the agency of its voters :/ it is just the sort of art that gets me riled purely by existing. 'Not for me' doesn't quite cover it when it (easily) wins Drowned In Sound's year-end equivalent poll (lol I know, I haven't been there much of late, worry not) - feels like the UK indie consensus is heading down some paths I absolutely cannot follow. But fuck the consensus, really :P
...I mean,
― Scrabble: A classic board-game that Mark Kozelek likes to play with his (imago), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:25 (nine years ago) link
(also i shouldn't say no poetry but very plainspokens style. also i find his fingerstyle playing though simple very hypnotic at times)
what's wrong w/scrabble?
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:27 (nine years ago) link
alvvays! great album.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:28 (nine years ago) link
huh Alvvays a) sounds nothing like what I imagined them to be; and b) sounds really fun on first blush
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:29 (nine years ago) link
Xpost Imago, Benji's not really million miles away from Nothing Important of you squint. Not exactly as arcane or experimental, very straight-up and confessional instead but I don't see the ire unless one happens to have a problem with Kozelek as a personality, or just acoustic guitar music of this sort in general
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:29 (nine years ago) link
Probably the only indie-pop record I needed this year, filler-free
― Simon H., Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:29 (nine years ago) link
More like Nevver, right guys?
― Tay-Tay Brooklynpants (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:30 (nine years ago) link
― Simon H.
Agree with this. Lovely album.
― Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:30 (nine years ago) link
sh@akedown if you like his playing but not the singing style, maybe check out Admiral Fell Promises - all nylong-string guitar, no stream-of-consciousness aspect to the vocals (iirc)
― Simon H., Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:31 (nine years ago) link
Will definitely check that one out. Hadn't heard of them until they popped up on the tracks poll.
― groovypanda, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:32 (nine years ago) link
Still haven't heard alvvays because their name screams 'you will not like this at all' to me
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:32 (nine years ago) link
I love that just for a split second when I'm playing "Party Police" it sounds like it's going to be "One of Us" by Joan Osborne.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:33 (nine years ago) link
Thee Ahs was the indiepop record of the year for me by a mile.
― All The Craigers Gonna Craig Craig Craig Craig Craig (Craigo Boingo), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:33 (nine years ago) link
i was down with the Literature LP too as far as indie but I don't think I voted for it, it was a few steps below this.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:34 (nine years ago) link
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Tuesday, January 27, 2015 1:32 PM (2 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Exactly! The slightly misspelled band name thing (Wavves, Chvrches, etc.) is so over
― Lee626, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:35 (nine years ago) link
― Simon H., Tuesday, January 27, 2015 12:31 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
cool thank you will check it out. i go back & forth w/his vocal approach on benji it works about half the time IMO. sometimes it's very affecting other times it just feels like he's reading a short story or something. but overall i like his playing, very pared down - l like the tone too which i bet is because it's nylon string, different from most players i listen to
or in other words i look forward i look forward to listening to another completely bankrupt piece of shit that i won't be able to even defend to forward thinking music philosphers like imago :)
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:35 (nine years ago) link
*makes noose and stands on chair waiting for war on drugs to place*
― strychnine, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:35 (nine years ago) link
I didn't bother because people kept comparing them to Best Coast and that Boyfriend song is the worst I've heard this decade.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:36 (nine years ago) link
*makes noose and stands on chair waiting for war on drugs to place*― strychnine, Tuesday, January 27, 2015 1:35 PM (55 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― strychnine, Tuesday, January 27, 2015 1:35 PM (55 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:37 (nine years ago) link
I don't see the ire unless one happens to have a problem with Kozelek as a personality, or just acoustic guitar music of this sort in general
it's terrible in comparison to his earlier records is the problem for me
maybe check out Admiral Fell Promises - all nylong-string guitar, no stream-of-consciousness aspect to the vocals
lots of folks didn't like it, but that's a pretty record imo
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:37 (nine years ago) link
what is a winged victory for the sullen, please?
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:37 (nine years ago) link
It's like the brown M&Ms thing. it might be the best music in the world but if you're going to call yourselves alvvays then who knows what else you're stumbling around making a rash bollock of?
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:37 (nine years ago) link
Alvvays >>>>> Best Coast by so much
― Simon H., Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:37 (nine years ago) link
lex, ambient music
― Tay-Tay Brooklynpants (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:38 (nine years ago) link
nu-classical/ambient biz with a Stars of the Lid member
― Simon H., Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:38 (nine years ago) link
Nothing Important is confessional solo-guitar music maybe, but the comparison ends there. Dawson is maximalist literature, complexity, philosophy, poetry. SKM...diary notes by a confirmed narcissist imo
― Ban Kil Moon (imago), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:39 (nine years ago) link
idk who stars of the lid are but this sounds like something i'll investigate
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:39 (nine years ago) link
This is true. Still not something I'd reach for all the time, but I don't want to turn it off while it's playing either.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:39 (nine years ago) link
First Best Coast album was great the second one was one of the most boring records I've heard in recent years.
― Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:40 (nine years ago) link
Diary notes though? Weird diary.
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:40 (nine years ago) link
Every time the name Alvvays comes up, Bon Jovi's "Always" pops into my head but with him singing "alvays" instead of "always"
Also, that Bon Jovi song >>>>>> Alvvays
― Tay-Tay Brooklynpants (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:40 (nine years ago) link
― Ban Kil Moon (imago), Tuesday, January 27, 2015 12:39 PM (9 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
chug my entire nutsack you dilettante
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:40 (nine years ago) link
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, January 27, 2015 1:00 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Kinda funny how hateful everyone is. I feel like it's at least 75% motivated by his dickish behavior unrelated to the record itself. Some other percent motivated by the hype disproportionate to it's quality against the rest of his catalog, fueled by a glowing review from everyone's fav ian cohen...
Many of the songs he's written over the years are the most gorgeous I've ever heard yet because of the effect I've outlined above people will just go on writing him off as the guy who bullies other bands and sings about his teenage sexual conquests. Almost guarantee many people would love an album here or a handful of songs there by him if that context was never part of the picture.
― Evan, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:40 (nine years ago) link
Stars of the Lid are great
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:41 (nine years ago) link
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Tuesday, January 27, 2015 1:37 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
That is my favorite record ever (currently)
― Evan, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:41 (nine years ago) link
i think his war on war on drugs was an amazing labeouf-esque meltdown and sort of pathetic but i'm interested to hear the album now. he's done so much good work.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:42 (nine years ago) link
It's not as good as Stars of the Lid but it's perfect for staring blankly on winter morning commutes.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:42 (nine years ago) link
second verse of 'WoD suck my cock' right?
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:43 (nine years ago) link
As someone who's a pretty big Koz fan overall, his antics last year were pathetic and annoying. Really hoping that was just a brief phase.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:43 (nine years ago) link
is there an imgur gallery for this
― ||||||||, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:43 (nine years ago) link
Evan and others, I believe I have made it clear that I hate SKM on its own musical terms regardless of media hype (that I ignored) so plz do not include me in yr strawmanning
it's so maudlin and overwrought, I get that y'all are feeling him at times but all I hear is willful pandering to sad cliches
― sleeve, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:44 (nine years ago) link
LOOOOVE the alvvays record, it'll always remind me of last summer
― j. winters (josh), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:44 (nine years ago) link
It's not public yet.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:45 (nine years ago) link
haha so if any of you "i can't listen to this because funny spellings of band names are so over" peeps voted for Rae Sremmurd we are going to need to have a talk
― a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:45 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/ruUC95V.jpg
49 GIGI MASIN Talk to the Sea [323 points, 9 votes, 2 first place votes]
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:46 (nine years ago) link
xps to evan - upthread there are quite a few laudatory statements about non-benji albums of his, i think the nature of benji's songs + his attitude/stunts have thoroughly soured the opinions of many, incl. those who may have liked previous work
― indie fuxxor albums i have secretly spotified (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:46 (nine years ago) link
I can't listen to it because I listened to enough boring sub-Slumberland shit when I was in school
― Tay-Tay Brooklynpants (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:46 (nine years ago) link
What is this Hm?
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:46 (nine years ago) link
i know nothing of kozelek's apparent dickish behavior, i just really loved Perils From the Sea and this record came pretty soon after it and failed to affect me at all, so he's doing something wrong here in relation to what i want from his music, even if i can't nail down exactly what.
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:47 (nine years ago) link
yessssssssssss!!!! this is sooo good
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:48 (nine years ago) link
https://music-from-memory.bandcamp.com/album/talk-to-the-sea
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:48 (nine years ago) link
there is a LOT of ambient music in this list! it is probably all great and serves its purpose but i feel like no one person needs this much ambient music? i haven't heard this one, only recognise the name bc he collaborated with young marco once iirc?
makes me feel more hopeful that francis harris will show up though
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:49 (nine years ago) link
This Alvvays is so sweet. This year's Waxahatchee (sort of).
My favourite indiepop of the year (why didn't I nominate it?!) was Teleman. New Tommy Sanders (of Pete & the Pirates) project of crippling poignancy and infectious minimalism that builds and builds.
― tangenttangent, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:49 (nine years ago) link
I think people are writing this album off due to Kozelek's (admittedly assholish) public persona.
― Stig of the sanctimonious uncontextualized linkdump (Michael B), Tuesday, January 27, 2015 10:17 AM (2 minutes ago)
this is what i did w/ it, tbh. plus i never much cared for red house painters, and even the biggest kozelek fans seem to slot his recent material in as a footnote to those early, s/t painters albums. between those two considerations, i felt pretty safe writing benji off. now, listening to "carissa", i feel chastened. i'm not sure i like it, as he's foregrounding his cousin's life (and death) as the impetus for his songwriting in a way that i find somewhat distasteful ("meant to give her life poetry", etc). but i suppose the self-centeredness fits with the confessional angle michael b. noted?
...five or six songs in, i'm starting to find kozelek's interest in all of the above somewhat less interesting than he evidently does. or maybe the general vibe of truculent midwestern masculinity just isn't my thing: flatness of affect, focus on matter-of-fact details, willingness to go sentimental and/or serious while distrusting intellectualism. the appeal lies entirely in kozelek himself, his voice & playing, his memories, interests and persona. i'm on the fence there.
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:49 (nine years ago) link
getting hopeful john luther adams might place
― gr8080, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:50 (nine years ago) link
― sleeve, Tuesday, January 27, 2015 1:44 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I only meant in general. Of course you're welcome to not be into the record itself regardless of the surrounding context.
― Evan, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:50 (nine years ago) link
Fwiw I know only a handful of Mark Kozelek's tunes besides "benji" as I'm not a singer-songwriter guy
― Stig of the sanctimonious uncontextualized linkdump (Michael B), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:51 (nine years ago) link
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:48 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:51 (nine years ago) link
Huh, I skimmed this Gigi Masin album earlier in the year, but I'm only just now discovering there are some vocals. Makes it better imo.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:51 (nine years ago) link
alvvays album is great :)
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:53 (nine years ago) link
Benji is clearly Kozelek not giving a shit and venting through his music. Admiral Fell Promises was him giving a shit and trying his best to write songs, play, and sing them well. It's interesting to me to see one artist have such completely opposite approaches in just a few years.
― Evan, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:55 (nine years ago) link
I am fairly convinced that my father in law owns every ambient album ever made including everything in this list, so apparently you can't have too much ambient music.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:55 (nine years ago) link
talk to the sea is a retrospective compilation and mr. masin has been working since the 80s (including a collab with charles hayward [this heat] which my bf pointed out as a huge charles hayward fan). as someone who listens to a lot of ambient-ish music i thought this was pretty special and a cut above, with more varied instrumentation including like the best-sounding digital synthesis ever and great cale-esque vox on some tracks. the vibes are kind of perfect for 2014 era balearic. i'm sort of over stars of the lid and certain guitar treatments, personally.
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:57 (nine years ago) link
idk i was pretty excited about this person's work as a "discovery" obviously lol
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:58 (nine years ago) link
Will second greatness of Teleman album, if UMS will let me off his nutsack
― Ban Kil Moon (imago), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:59 (nine years ago) link
― Tay-Tay Brooklynpants (Murgatroid), Tuesday, January 27, 2015 10:46 AM (9 minutes ago)
engaging super-Slumberland shit imo
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:59 (nine years ago) link
my ballot was very ambient-heavy but none of the ambient albums I voted for have placed yet.
― example (crüt), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:00 (nine years ago) link
OK I need to hear that Masin/Hayward record, as I am also a massive CH fan
― sleeve, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:00 (nine years ago) link
Talk To The Sea was beautiful when I listened awhile ago. I totally forgot to seek it out later for purchase, thanks for the reminder ilx
― Evan, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:01 (nine years ago) link
feel like yr father-in-law should post to ilx
― Mordy, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:02 (nine years ago) link
Go Gigi. Great album.
Well worth also checking the Gaussian Curve album he did with Jonny Nash & Young Marco
― groovypanda, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:02 (nine years ago) link
TIL: Don't put aerosol cans on trash fires, else Mark Kozelek may eulogize you.
― non-masturbatory prog excursion (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:03 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/qo30AJW.jpg
48 WILD BEASTS Present Tense [326 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote]
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:03 (nine years ago) link
wes anderson album cover
― nxd, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:04 (nine years ago) link
did not really get a lot out of this record :/
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:04 (nine years ago) link
Gigi Masin sounds really good so far
― example (crüt), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:05 (nine years ago) link
Yes! An album I voted for! Love these guys.
― Tay-Tay Brooklynpants (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:05 (nine years ago) link
ok i rescind the ambient snark bc i've just put this gigi masin album on and i'm already quite spellbound. i like his voice!
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:05 (nine years ago) link
didn't vote for the wild beasts record but it's very underrated
― j. winters (josh), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:06 (nine years ago) link
gigi is a man?
― groundless round (La Lechera), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:07 (nine years ago) link
i love this band so much! (p sure it was on my ballot) despite some strong ideas i think this album is a slight step down from earlier ones.
― goole, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:07 (nine years ago) link
feel like my 2014 was very successful in that i passed through the whole year without this terrible band once coming into my purview
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:08 (nine years ago) link
didn't vote for this but it's nice, has at least 3 or 4 songs that i really dig
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:08 (nine years ago) link
my #1! cant really put my finger on why it struck me so hard this year but i played it more than any other record this year
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:08 (nine years ago) link
Tired Sound of Stars of the Lid was a forest favourite for a long time until I replaced music with the the sound of a pine cone lying on the ground. Winged Victory is a little rich for me, though I did like one track off the previous record
― saer, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:09 (nine years ago) link
<3
― sleeve, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:10 (nine years ago) link
never heard of gigi masin, but i'm listening to "snake theory" and the vocals just kicked in. wow.
not much use for wild beasts tho.
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:11 (nine years ago) link
le saer est mort vive le saer
― non-masturbatory prog excursion (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:11 (nine years ago) link
that pinecone mad underrated imo
fuuuuck I haven't been on this thread all day but WORKSHOP 19 IS SO FUCKING GOOD, Y'ALL!!!!
― Jennifer 8.-( (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:12 (nine years ago) link
I think I'm the only regular on the ILX Brigade thread who was not totally into this Steve Gunn record, but I'm happy to see it place― sleeve, mardi
― sleeve, mardi
felt it was super okay but not nearly as EOY worthy as Time Off
ugh benjiApril is one of my all-time favs and Admiral Fell Promises is pretty great too but since then he's been crap. Had to turn to Rivulets to get a taste of former SKM this year.
Fennesz was on the long list, didn't expect much but was pleasantly surprised.
― Dinsdale, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:12 (nine years ago) link
he's italian xp
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:12 (nine years ago) link
that Kelis album was also so so so great
― Jennifer 8.-( (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:15 (nine years ago) link
"Wanderlust" was the only track I'd heard on this Wild Beasts album before today, and it was okay, but I'm liking the stuff that comes after it much more.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:15 (nine years ago) link
Steve Gunn album is so good. I do also prefer Time Off but I voted for WoW too. Hoping Forsyth shows up, but probably not?
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:16 (nine years ago) link
http://rnbxclusive.se/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Lady-Nicole-Wray-Terri-Walker-Lady-iTunes.jpg
This album is like the Kelis album except 300,087 times better. Better songs that don't all sound the same, better singers (much as I love Kelis), production that isn't dogshite. Thanks, you're welcome.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:16 (nine years ago) link
STEVIE D OTM re kassem mosse. very high quality, functional, all-purpose, endlessly repeatable trax, which sounds bland but is actually exciting and no mean feat.
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:17 (nine years ago) link
that Lady album was great but was it as great as FOOD? no.
― Jennifer 8.-( (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:17 (nine years ago) link
saer would like gigi masin, i would bet a small bundle of twigs on it
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:17 (nine years ago) link
Man, talk about pastiche.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:18 (nine years ago) link
i didn't think the lady and kelis albums sounded much like each other beyond the general retro premise
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:18 (nine years ago) link
The one Lady song I heard (Money) was a superior quality Motown rip, so I'll give this a go.
Too many albums to listen to right now!
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:19 (nine years ago) link
gigi masin is my number one! so glad it placed, i had a feeling it would. easily my most listened to album of the year, and my favorite album to come out in a long, long time. i've never heard anything quite like it, really one of the greatest things ever.
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:19 (nine years ago) link
Incongruously angry lyrics on this Wild Beasts opening track are fun. I don't hate this at all.
― tangenttangent, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:19 (nine years ago) link
so many fêted ambient albums like fennesz just sound nice put pass by without much happening; on this gigi masin album, things seem to be constantly happening. the opening of "fata morgana" is so effective
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:20 (nine years ago) link
Food was trash tho.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:21 (nine years ago) link
― groundless round (La Lechera), Tuesday, January 27, 2015 2:07 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yep, gigi masin is a man from venice, italy. people who like 'talk to the sea' need to listen to gaussian curve's album as well.
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:21 (nine years ago) link
I've not given up on the Ian William Craig album placing just yet
― Get Ducked (Cosmic Slop), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:22 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/uI4kUVe.jpg
47 KATY B Little Red [342 points, 16 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:23 (nine years ago) link
fennesz is quite overrated, it's the trick of being the right person doing the right thing at the right time in the right place imo
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:24 (nine years ago) link
my #12! i think the pre-release reaction to this was similar to Jessie Ware in that people were starting to seemingly panic that it was going to be mediocre or lowering their own expectations but i thought it was really good.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:24 (nine years ago) link
god WHO IS gigi masin?!? this is spectacular music, easily the most impressive board upside my head of the albums rollout so far. sincere thanks to everyone who voted for this.
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:24 (nine years ago) link
Since I've not said it before can I say I the cover of the Katy B album is lovely. I got almost as much out of staring at it IRL as the music on the CDs.
Mixed version > unmixed blah blah
― Jeff W, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:26 (nine years ago) link
i think the pre-release reaction to this was similar to Jessie Ware in that people were starting to seemingly panic that it was going to be mediocre or lowering their own expectations but i thought it was really good.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, January 27, 2015 11:24 AM (17 seconds ago)
jessie ware was one of the best things about the singles rollout, but katy b still misses me every time
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:26 (nine years ago) link
hope ian william craig's "a turn of breath" places
― ||||||||, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:27 (nine years ago) link
katy b is definitely more an acquired taste for some i guess. this isn't as good as the Jessie Ware album which i think is just about as good as 'Devotion'.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:27 (nine years ago) link
katy b! i was initially disappointed by this album. horribly sequenced, a step down from her impeccable debut...i rarely actually create alternate track listings but rearranging (and judicious deleting) actually made little red work really well, and it got under my skin and stayed with me longer than i thought it would. i seem to have pushed it off my ballot at the last minute, which annoys me, it should have been there. happy to see it here.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:28 (nine years ago) link
― lex pretend, Tuesday, January 27, 2015 11:28 AM (28 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
v interested in your alternate tracklist (if it differs at all from the continuous mix tracklist)
― j. winters (josh), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:30 (nine years ago) link
"Archie" rightly got the most attention, but the Alvvays record is top to bottom very solid; has a ton of wonderful riffs. It's also a nice length, and every track runs into the next, so I seem to want to replay it nearly every time.
They're in the same wheelhouse as Allo Darlin and Camera Obscura. It's definitely twee, but the lead singer has a dead-pan/I-don't-give-a-shit delivery and there are enough fuzzed out guitars to make it sound way cooler than, say, a Belle and Sebastian.
― Indexed, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:30 (nine years ago) link
Oh, glad to see the Fennesz.
Would be eager to meet this studio tech!
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:32 (nine years ago) link
― j. winters (josh), Tuesday, January 27, 2015 7:30 PM (21 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah i made it before i knew there was a continuous mix...and the continuous mix still includes the blah tracks that make it sag
next thingeverythingi like youblue eyeslittle red lightsapphire bluevulnerable/drunk in lovestay downemotionsaaliyahhot like fireall my lovin'wicked lovecrying for no reason5 amsky's the limit
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:34 (nine years ago) link
the track First Time Ruth Saw The Sea is the best one from quick listen to the gigi masin, some of the others might be a touch rich for me again, but will definitely come back to this one!
First time Ive heard Wild Beasts, I get stressed going clothes shopping and it reminded me a lot of the last time. I've been putting off buying a winter coat partly for this reason but luckily a man here gave me a spare one. This music is stressful
I thought the Katy B record in the poll was horrible. I think any artist can have a little gem tucked away somewhere in their back catalogue. I also think its ok that you might miss out on it. I dont feel like listening to any of this
― saer, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:38 (nine years ago) link
The middle stretch of the Katy B album was wonderful. I threw in "Hot Like Fire" and I was in business.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:39 (nine years ago) link
Love the Lady album. Reverend is right, wtf happened to Kelis, the production on her album really is dogshit and it's a shame because it seems like there's some decent songwriting muddled in there... then you listen to Lady and the production is so lush. Glad it's here although I didn't vote for it. I play it at one of my bars constantly to make amends.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:41 (nine years ago) link
I meant buried not muddled.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:42 (nine years ago) link
tbc Lady isn't in the countdown. It was just offered up as a helpful suggestion.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:43 (nine years ago) link
Isnt the gigi masin a resissue? how come qualify
― saer, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:43 (nine years ago) link
I mainly found it odd that people complained about Ronika's pastiche and then had all kinds of good things to say about Lady, which is nothing but that.
Typical that the first time I've been not that excited about a Wild Beasts album that they make their first appearance in the end of year list. Easily their weakest album for me. They promised they weren't going to do something different to the last couple of albums but I didn't really hear it. Still think Limbo Panto is their best, bring back the pomp!
― Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:44 (nine years ago) link
It's a compilation of mainly unreleased material.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:44 (nine years ago) link
imago - sorry for real
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:44 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/3fh9hlS.jpg
46 YOUNG MARCO Biology [355 points, 15 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:45 (nine years ago) link
nice!
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:46 (nine years ago) link
yh sorry too h3lg, terrible argument against music. feel rly guilty still
― Ban Kil Moon (imago), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:46 (nine years ago) link
sweet!biology is awesssssome
― nxd, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:46 (nine years ago) link
another one that just slipped off my ballot wtf. i guess i didn't find it as exciting as young marco's mixes or singles but it was still excellent listening.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:47 (nine years ago) link
young marco is def a new direction for YMCMB
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:48 (nine years ago) link
terrible argument against music
new board description.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:49 (nine years ago) link
Lol M@tt
― 龜, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:50 (nine years ago) link
omg M@tt hahaha
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:50 (nine years ago) link
yay Young Marco!
nu-balearic crew represent
― gr8080, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:59 (nine years ago) link
Sea World sounds like nitrous oxide
― tangenttangent, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:03 (nine years ago) link
― gr8080, Tuesday, January 27, 2015 6:50 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
if I were voting today I'd have become ocean high on my ballot, doubt we'll see it tho
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:05 (nine years ago) link
shit I forgot to vote for that! so beautiful.
― sleeve, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:06 (nine years ago) link
was anyone else into steel hammer or is that just me?
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:06 (nine years ago) link
Wow! I didn't think Gigi Masin had made such an impact on here, there were a few amazing retrospectives from last year (also that Vangelis Katsoulis & the Ariel Kalma ones) but this one the best by miles.
― xelab, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:14 (nine years ago) link
Feel if it's got the saer okay, I'll give it a spin
― 龜, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:15 (nine years ago) link
Too low
― groovypanda, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:15 (nine years ago) link
nice of you guys to not have any of the albums i voted for in the countdown yet so that my entire ballot can place in the top 40
― some dude, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:16 (nine years ago) link
I don't get the fascination with the next one at all, but people seemed endlessly fascinated with it.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:18 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/IxFIEqd.jpg
45 LEWIS L'Amour [367 points, 11 votes]
year of impact I guess
― sleeve, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:19 (nine years ago) link
yeh never got too much with this musicBut the story seemed real cool
― nxd, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:19 (nine years ago) link
― example (crüt), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:20 (nine years ago) link
lewis story seemed hokey to me - why are people so fascinated by ~mystique as though that makes an artist's music better - and i thought the album was dull and pretty standard for what it was
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:20 (nine years ago) link
whats the story behind this one?
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:20 (nine years ago) link
he's garth brooks
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:21 (nine years ago) link
he looks more like Richard Madeley
― xelab, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:22 (nine years ago) link
The story was offputting. The record itself was pretty fine.
― All The Craigers Gonna Craig Craig Craig Craig Craig (Craigo Boingo), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:22 (nine years ago) link
http://noisey.vice.com/blog/light-in-the-attics-lewis-lamour
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:23 (nine years ago) link
Lewis <3 Glad to see it place.
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:23 (nine years ago) link
Don't know anything about the last couple
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:24 (nine years ago) link
God, this is even more dull than I remember.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:24 (nine years ago) link
lol xelab
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:24 (nine years ago) link
man, huey lewis looked great when he was young!
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:25 (nine years ago) link
someone dig up that murgatroid post re this album
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:25 (nine years ago) link
the Lewis is great, 'romantic times' is just as good. didn't vote for it bc i stuck to music strictly from '14.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:26 (nine years ago) link
this is really lovely so far, don't think it needs a mysterious origin story to prop it up
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:26 (nine years ago) link
Totally bought into the story and love the album too. Romantic Times is great too but the other songs I've heard of his are pretty bad.
― Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:27 (nine years ago) link
got it
Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid) wrote this on thread Lewis - "L'amour" on board I Love Music on Aug 10, 2014Oh, so now that the backlash seal has been broken, I can say that this stuff sounds like music white dudes caress their nipples to
Oh, so now that the backlash seal has been broken, I can say that this stuff sounds like music white dudes caress their nipples to
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:27 (nine years ago) link
HA!
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:28 (nine years ago) link
Wasn't really into the Lewis until I caught this shot from the publicity campaign - after this I was on board
http://i.imgur.com/gx02Q7C.jpg
― 龜, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:28 (nine years ago) link
I think I put this at #2 on my ballot, mostly because on the day I voted I was sick at home and this was just the perfect music to listen to in that situation. So soothing.
― silverfish, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:28 (nine years ago) link
I had it at #2 as well I think.
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:29 (nine years ago) link
is that really lewis tho
― j. winters (josh), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:31 (nine years ago) link
Wasn't feeling Romantic Times, really.
L'amour very easily floats out the window in the wrong settings but there are a few songs on there I find gorgeous at all times.
― Evan, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:31 (nine years ago) link
i enjoyed l'amour quite a bit, though i wouldn't rush to include it among the year's very best. and the backstory isn't all that important, imo. the music's no less lovely and haunting without it.
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:32 (nine years ago) link
The backstory put it in the spotlight but it didn't influence my opinion of the record, either.
― Evan, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:35 (nine years ago) link
Hearing the backstory vastly improves this for me. Nothing like a bit of nebulous memento mori to make an album sparkle.
― tangenttangent, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:37 (nine years ago) link
Lewis seems like a very shy Bryan Ferry who doesn't know any drummers.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:37 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/mScykzh.jpg
44 ONE DIRECTION Four [372 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote]
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:39 (nine years ago) link
Too low, but glad it beat Lewis.
― Tay-Tay Brooklynpants (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:39 (nine years ago) link
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:39 (nine years ago) link
so is this their best album then? i still haven't listened to any of them in full
― bae sremmurd (monotony), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:40 (nine years ago) link
lol JF
― sleeve, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:40 (nine years ago) link
so jack white lost some weight huh
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:41 (nine years ago) link
i like how harry styles dresses just like todd trainer of shellac in 1991
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:41 (nine years ago) link
xxxxxpsI am bit of a sucker for a backstory, I was listening to that Luciano Cilio re-issue and can't separate some of the fragile beauty of his music from the fact that he topped himself. Maybe it is purely cosmetic, but sometimes it does seem to add something.
― xelab, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:44 (nine years ago) link
is this for real
― Dinsdale, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:44 (nine years ago) link
yesssss. One Direction was in my top 20 but if i made my ballot now it'd probably be in my top 10. the closing trio of non-bonus tracks is incredible, especially "Clouds."
― some dude, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:45 (nine years ago) link
why wouldn't it be? xp
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:45 (nine years ago) link
gotta love the synchronicity of Four placing at 44
― gr8080, Tuesday, January 27, 2015 2:59 PM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
woop woop
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:46 (nine years ago) link
This is better than any indie or metal dinsdale.Popism ftw
― strychnine, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:47 (nine years ago) link
placing 44th in ILX's year-end poll is a real feather in One Direction's hat
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:47 (nine years ago) link
per the modern country songwriting discussion in the tracks thread, I'm struck by how easy it would be to add a touch of twang to these 1D songs and score hits on country radio.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:48 (nine years ago) link
It's really hard to get over how much I hated them on X Factor but Fireproof is quite a nice tune. That's as positive as I can be right now.
― Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:49 (nine years ago) link
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, January 27, 2015 8:46 PM
Fingers crossed that Horsebeach and Mark Barrott also make the cut
― groovypanda, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:49 (nine years ago) link
I've listened to "Fireproof," "No Control," "Girl Almighty," and "Stockholm Syndrome" every day since NOvember.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:51 (nine years ago) link
~Change Your Ticket~
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:52 (nine years ago) link
What was the image selection process for this cover? It must be more symbolic than it lets on...
― tangenttangent, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:52 (nine years ago) link
excellent journalism from our j0rdan on that front:
http://rankings.gawker.com/the-dumb-faces-of-one-directions-four-ranked-1661231846
― some dude, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:53 (nine years ago) link
never have four consistently gross-looking young dudes recorded such fine pop
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:55 (nine years ago) link
it's sad – how do you kick FIVE dudes out of bed at the same time?
xpost
Haha perfect! Still looking to unlock some Lacanian deeper purpose to it all though...
― tangenttangent, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:56 (nine years ago) link
solitary posts that effortlessly summarize the history of rock & roll
― example (crüt), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:57 (nine years ago) link
i can't get into these dudes (have tried), it just doesn't hit my specific pop music sweet spots
― indie fuxxor albums i have secretly spotified (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:57 (nine years ago) link
No Control, Change Your Ticket, and Steal My Girl alone make this worth your time. The whole album is great.
― Indexed, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:57 (nine years ago) link
love it
― cajunsunday, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:58 (nine years ago) link
xps to alfred seems difficult, could require assistance from hotel staff
― indie fuxxor albums i have secretly spotified (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:59 (nine years ago) link
They seem like okay kids, but they're definitely too far on the Ryan Tedder/OneRepublic end of pop music for me to embrace any of their songs.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:59 (nine years ago) link
they aren't bad looking imo
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:59 (nine years ago) link
I bet that kid with the hat has early male pattern baldness.
― xelab, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 20:59 (nine years ago) link
clouds is my favourite here.
Here! We! Go again! Another go round for all our friends! Another non-stop will it ever end?
― cajunsunday, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:00 (nine years ago) link
Oh hang on, I just got to "Stockholm Syndrome." It (most likely unintentionally) sounds like "Everybody Wants to Rule the World" imo.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:00 (nine years ago) link
very. with a little bit of that one Haim song too.
― some dude, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:02 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/NWbBRlI.jpg
43 DJ Q Ineffable [374 points, 17 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:02 (nine years ago) link
didn't vote for it but what a great moment in ilx history
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:03 (nine years ago) link
classic pop/rock pastiche is a big part of the 1D brand. there are the singles that sound like "Baba O'Reilly," "Pour Some Sugar On Me" and "Faithfully," and one of the bonus tracks on Midnight Memories sounds like "Jessie's Girl." xp
― some dude, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:04 (nine years ago) link
one thing about the one direction album is that it's such a throwback to when an album meant something - a thematically well-strung together, well developed whole unit that does rigorous world building and echoing musical motifs
― Mordy, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:04 (nine years ago) link
at different times through the year, i think i would've called Ineffable my fave album of the year. it's fucking great.
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:05 (nine years ago) link
― Johnny Fever,
not at all!
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:06 (nine years ago) link
so did DJ Q get his album title from ILX?
― sleeve, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:07 (nine years ago) link
y
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:08 (nine years ago) link
oh that is very cool
― cajunsunday, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:09 (nine years ago) link
and how did we repay him
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:10 (nine years ago) link
― Ban Kil Moon (imago), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:10 (nine years ago) link
his next album's called '43'
― cajunsunday, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:11 (nine years ago) link
We should get DJ Q to post here regularly.
― Tay-Tay Brooklynpants (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:12 (nine years ago) link
Catching up: Really thrilled that the Wild Beasts album made it, my number 3.
― quan voice (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:12 (nine years ago) link
xp to Alfred - Tedder is one of the chief architects of the very blocky strict measure for measure pop that dominates both top 40 and country radio that sounds like they just dragged and dropped songs into being using Logic. I won't get into it all here—in fact I may never get into it because it seems to go nowhere anytime I do—but it's a formula I don't like at all.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:12 (nine years ago) link
i just don't think 1d occupy that space at all
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:14 (nine years ago) link
their blockiness is stadium rock-derived. not that tedder's isn't i guess
Isn't there a thread for pics of musicians and their synths?
http://i.imgur.com/azBbKXS.png
― 龜, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:14 (nine years ago) link
I voted for and named this album.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:17 (nine years ago) link
I hear more traditional guitar-bass-drums arrangements and climaxes, with a power pop bass. Tedder can't resist electronified white gospel rave-ups.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:18 (nine years ago) link
You're still distracted by the flourishes. I'm talking about the very skeleton of the songs. (It had already begun to take that turn before OneRepublic ever happened, but he's ballooned the style certainly.)
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:19 (nine years ago) link
Back to Ineffable, though...this is great!
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:21 (nine years ago) link
think Rev needs a bit more erence for his feat of boosting tbrr
― Ban Kil Moon (imago), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:21 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/rJIpNt7.jpg
42 LEE ANN WOMACK The Way I'm Livin' [380 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote]
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:23 (nine years ago) link
his next album's called '43' '77'
― cajunsunday, Tuesday, January 27, 2015 10:11 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Fixed
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:24 (nine years ago) link
i like that cover it looks like something King Tee would have if he had a new album
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:24 (nine years ago) link
i would be interested in hearing this just based on that cover
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:25 (nine years ago) link
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:26 (nine years ago) link
This album took a while, and it's not as indelible imo as There's More Where That Came From, but the singing and playing are first-rate.
was about to say the same, awesome cover!
― xelab, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:26 (nine years ago) link
Really hoping the rest of the album sounds like "All His Saints".
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:27 (nine years ago) link
That is an awesome cover.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:27 (nine years ago) link
I like the cover too. I agree with standing next to cars
― saer, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:28 (nine years ago) link
fyi everyone i'm clothes shopping with my gf right now and the store is playing warpaint
― gr8080, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:28 (nine years ago) link
Where's the best place in the forest to find cars saer
― 龜, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:29 (nine years ago) link
Tedder is one of the chief architects of the very blocky strict measure for measure pop that dominates both top 40 and country radio that sounds like they just dragged and dropped songs into being using Logic. I won't get into it all here—in fact I may never get into it because it seems to go nowhere anytime I do—but it's a formula I don't like at all.
It sounds like you're saying "he writes pop songs using the rules for constructing a pop song", which I don't believe is what you're trying to say.
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:30 (nine years ago) link
Well hey, "Chances Are" is some good old slow country too. I'm guess Lee Ann isn't beholden to the big pop country sound? Please don't betray me, album. I want to like you.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:30 (nine years ago) link
No, you're right. I may elaborate someday, but not now.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:31 (nine years ago) link
this song:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5_xgDDrvzo
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:31 (nine years ago) link
I hope you do, and that when you do this baffled expression leaves my face
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:35 (nine years ago) link
sometimes i want to like this kind of thing. maybe when i'm 55 and living in grand junction with a dog and gin.
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:37 (nine years ago) link
1D are pretty approachable
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:39 (nine years ago) link
lee ann womack record most devastating record of the year
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:40 (nine years ago) link
excellent journalism from our j0rdan on that front:http://rankings.gawker.com/the-dumb-faces-of-one-directions-four-ranked-1661231846
http://rankings.gawker.com/the-dumb-faces-of-one-directions-four-ranked-1661231846
lmao love it
― gr8080, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:40 (nine years ago) link
xpsIt suits me as 41 yr old with a dog and a carton of Tesco wine, that song sounded really lovely and I need to dig more country really.
― xelab, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:41 (nine years ago) link
btw Noura Mint Seymali is ungodly good wow
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:42 (nine years ago) link
i worked a concert recently and got to hear lee ann womack sing an emmylou harris song, she sounded gorgeous. haven't heard any of her singles in a while so i had kinda forgotten about her.
― some dude, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:43 (nine years ago) link
oh i dialed the album up on spotify, couldn't get past the jesus song tbr but the rest sounded aight. her voice is great.
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:44 (nine years ago) link
Her 2008 album had a couple of bangers. Try "Solitary Thinkin'."
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:44 (nine years ago) link
Really glad this list broke out of its ambient/Balearic/dreamy indie pattern in such style.
I reckon Q would be quite happy at beating Katy B and One Direction fwiw.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:46 (nine years ago) link
jesus can you save mefrom going crazy
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:46 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/OmwYt29.jpg
41 EX HEX Rips [380 points, 15 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:48 (nine years ago) link
I love this record and this band. Shame it wasn't released until the fall as this is amazing summer driving music.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:50 (nine years ago) link
I still haven't gotten around to that one. Which is good because I CAN just wait until summer.
― Evan, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:50 (nine years ago) link
oh shit this rules
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:51 (nine years ago) link
Yay! Does nothing particularly novel and has none of Mary Timony's standard magical fairy-dust but still manages to be a terrific record.
― Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:51 (nine years ago) link
This had never clicked for me, but this afternoon it sounds WHOA MY GOODNESS.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:52 (nine years ago) link
yes to this
― sleeve, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:53 (nine years ago) link
So far...
60 TUNE-YARDS Nikki Nack [278 points, 11 votes]59 KELIS Food [281 points, 13 votes]58 KASSEM MOSSE Workshop 19 [282 points, 13 votes]57 BOTANIST VI: Flora [285 points, 10 votes]56 STEVE GUNN Way Out Weather [286 points, 9 votes, 1 first place vote]55 RONIKA Selectadisc [288 points, 10 votes]54 MOODYMANN Moodymann [291 points, 12 votes]53 SUN KIL MOON Benji [292 points, 9 votes]52 FENNESZ Bécs [306 points, 12 votes]51 A WINGED VICTORY FOR THE SULLEN Atomos [309 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote]50 ALVVAYS Alvvays [314 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]49 GIGI MASIN Talk to the Sea [323 points, 9 votes, 2 first place votes]48 WILD BEASTS Present Tense [326 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote]47 KATY B Little Red [342 points, 16 votes]46 YOUNG MARCO Biology [355 points, 15 votes]45 LEWIS L'Amour [367 points, 11 votes]44 ONE DIRECTION Four [372 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote]43 DJ Q Ineffable [374 points, 17 votes]42 LEE ANN WOMACK The Way I'm Livin' [380 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote]41 EX HEX Rips [380 points, 15 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:54 (nine years ago) link
Did I vote for Ex Hex? don't remember, it was in the mix but might have been bumped. Anyway this is the first album to place that I've heard in full.
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:55 (nine years ago) link
i kept trying to like that Ex Hex album and it just wasn't coalescing.
― Jennifer 8.-( (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:56 (nine years ago) link
totally missed A Winged Victory placing! love it.
― AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:56 (nine years ago) link
I don't know that it's the best thing Timony's done, but in the right mood...
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:58 (nine years ago) link
ex hex album is lots of fun, but i don't know you how you write a song like "beast" and not just start singing "radio on" at the end or something
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:00 (nine years ago) link
ok i got bored of ex hex, dj q next, don't know why i skipped over this before, it's excellent. reminds me there's a todd edwards album due this year i think.
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:01 (nine years ago) link
the ex hex album is just really well constructed pop rock, in some ways it's more like a Cars record than Helium
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:02 (nine years ago) link
It's 1979 in 2014.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:05 (nine years ago) link
"how you got that girl" is certainly more cars than anything timony's done before
every song sounds like a blurry snapshot of something else tho
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:05 (nine years ago) link
xxpDo you reckon Chris Forsyth will gatecrash the top 40 UMS?
― xelab, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:05 (nine years ago) link
he better
― Modern French Music from Failure to Boulez (askance johnson), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:07 (nine years ago) link
boring results today imo. Yesterday was way better.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:07 (nine years ago) link
Ninos and Noura still my faves
― sleeve, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:08 (nine years ago) link
ex hex album is good though, don't mean to take anything away from it. reminds me of the fastbacks more than anything else.
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:09 (nine years ago) link
― xelab, Tuesday, January 27, 2015 4:05 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it really should in terms of guitar rock in 2014feeling bad i didn't vote in this poll cuz it might have made more of a difference
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:10 (nine years ago) link
yeah you and tyler at least should have voted
I'll remind u both next year :)
― sleeve, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:12 (nine years ago) link
Today's votes:
Kelis - initial reaction to this was "oh god yet another dull thing from Ninja Tune", but seeing her in July completely reframed the album for me and it's been in constant rotation ever sinceAlvvays - was reticent with this b/c of double vs instead of double ewe but their charming melodies were irresistibleKaty B - probably only "Aaliyah" and "Emotions" are on a par with album 1 but this was maddeningly consistent and I think would've been a lot more popular with a different singles configurationYoung Marco - don't have anything profound to say about this - my fave techno of the year tho, insanely groovy
― bae sremmurd (monotony), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:13 (nine years ago) link
one direction - i appreciate their existence as a cultural phenomenon but the music isn't my style of pop at all. not that i've heard anything off this album - have their voices improved, are they less clumsy/rambunctious? i can't work out exactly what it is that made everyone who'd ignored their first three albums suddenly get into their music. they've all lost their looks imo
dj q - great album albeit one i felt like i should have gone back to a lot more than i did? like, i enjoyed it in a low-key way but it never turned into an addiction. "notice me" and the epic "through the night" are highlights
lee ann womack - another of my votes, this album floored me the first time i heard it. title track is incredible and "chances are" (some live performance is all that's on youtube) is so bleak
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:14 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, you should have voted.
But I don't get the Chris Forsyth thing.
xposts
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:14 (nine years ago) link
do you mean "inconsistent"?
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:14 (nine years ago) link
my hopes for francis harris, mirel wagner, meshell ndegéocello, angaleena presley receding swiftly; my hopes for gangsta boo/la chat and fatima have receded :(
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:15 (nine years ago) link
Love the Young Marco a lot but partly with Lex in that the album ultimately didn't hit me as hard as prior one-shots like "Darwin in Bahia" or "Later Than U Think".
I think in my head I had imagined he was on this kind of trajectory towards Power Spot meets Achso percussive delirium, which daydream the album even had the graciousness to partly fulfill, but not to the level of excess I had fantasised about.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:17 (nine years ago) link
Throw Spanners in there as another fantasised-about reference point.
xxxxps to Chris Forsyth peepsI was wondering around some lonesome Victorian gardens in my local park on xmas day and quite drunk after quadruple brandies and constantly playing Yellow Square on repeat, it was the most transcendent experience I had listening to guitar in a long time.
― xelab, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:17 (nine years ago) link
I have heard much worse nu-country than LAW. Much worse. Timid approval & ongoing play
― Ban Kil Moon (imago), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:18 (nine years ago) link
that sounds nice
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, January 27, 2015 4:14 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
have you ever listened to Chris Forsyth.....on weeeed?
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:19 (nine years ago) link
LAW more like "deliberate retro country" but "without a trace of boring roots rock"
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:19 (nine years ago) link
voted for these. all great.
Steve Gunn - Way Out WeatherKaty B - Little RedLee Ann Womack - The Way I'm Livin'Alvvays - AlvvaysYoung Marco - Biology
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:19 (nine years ago) link
Lex I think I voted for the Gangsta Boo / Beat King. I keep forgetting there is another Gangsta Boo album from 2014 I haven't listened to yet! Is it even better?!
― Tim F, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:20 (nine years ago) link
Sounds like the trick to getting Chris Forsyth is to listen to it lit as fuck. Well, since I don't ever get that out of it I won't be getting Chris Forsyth.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:21 (nine years ago) link
― Ban Kil Moon (imago), Tuesday, January 27, 2015 10:18 PM (58 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
uhhhhh she is not in any sense NU country o_0
it's funny seeing album covers i've never seen before in these countdowns despite owning and loving the album, i hadn't seen the lee ann womack one!
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:21 (nine years ago) link
maybe he means "country albums recorded in 2014," at least I hope so.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:22 (nine years ago) link
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, January 27, 2015 4:21 PM (46 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i actually don't even smokeit's one of those records though i feel like you either are 100 percent on board or it just feels meandering and probably boring, but i guess jammy stuff i always like that, feel like you either click w/certain textures of how they play or not, whether its the dead or forsyth or like earthless or w/e
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:23 (nine years ago) link
― Tim F, Tuesday, January 27, 2015 10:20 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yes! she did an excellent mixtape with beatking but a proper album with la chat called witch, which basically reimagines the two of them as first the witches out of macbeth then mean girls then thelma & louise via a lot of partying, and folds all those tropes into their implacable characters. plus, gangsta boo shouting "YEAH HO" really is so deeply satisfying
WITCH BREW
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:23 (nine years ago) link
I voted for the Gangsta Boo / Beat King mixtape because I thought it was marginally stronger than the other one.
― xelab, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:24 (nine years ago) link
i'll be mad if fatima doesn't make it. glorious album
― bae sremmurd (monotony), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:24 (nine years ago) link
also u&k off witch are "sum 2 do" and "can't sit with us"
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:24 (nine years ago) link
the forsyth is a beast of an album. i feel like gunn was definitely getting more of the hipster kisses though, for whatever reason.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:24 (nine years ago) link
it's one of those records though i feel like you either are 100 percent on board or it just feels meandering and probably boring, but i guess jammy stuff i always like that, feel like you either click w/certain textures of how they play or not, whether its the dead or forsyth or like earthless or w/e
This is a really good call. I've seen live clips where I think I'd get Forsyth in that context, but the album is somehow jammy and sedate in a way I can't connect with.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:27 (nine years ago) link
i'm a little bummed cuz i saw them and they killed but they had this 2nd guitarist who i loved his playing and i guess he's not in the band anymore
i feel like his playing has such strong melodies in the leads it carries it for me (also v melodic basslines)
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:29 (nine years ago) link
oh yeah and i finished listening to the gigi masin over dinner. it's brilliant stuff.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:29 (nine years ago) link
and that Gangsta Boo / Beat King mixtape has Dollar Signs on it, which is fucking awesome.
― xelab, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:30 (nine years ago) link
I dug the basslines for sure, but it isn't enough.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:31 (nine years ago) link
― lex pretend, Tuesday, January 27, 2015 2:23 PM Bookmark
I think my favorite moment out of everything that happened in 2014 is when me and my GF were listening to Witch when suddenly she kissed me hard, then broke it off and yelled "YEAHHH HO!" in my face.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:33 (nine years ago) link
I voted for both Gangsta Boo projects and Fatima so hopefully they will place.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:34 (nine years ago) link
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, January 27, 2015 2:19 PM
YES YES YES thank you for mailing this
― sleeve, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:34 (nine years ago) link
gah "nailing" what is it with me and this thread
― sleeve, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:35 (nine years ago) link
Alfred mailed me a copy too
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:36 (nine years ago) link
lot of money spent on postage stamps but worth it
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:37 (nine years ago) link
Heh, some people seem to be feeling the guitar deficiency in their diets. I voted for for Forsyth album, but there's certainly no shortage of great guitar stuff.
I was wandering around the desert quite lifted after quadruple peyotes and constantly playing Colour Haze on repeat, it was the most transcendent experience I had listening to guitar in a long time.
I was wandering around the forest quite buzzed after quadruple hits and constantly playing Truckfighters on repeat, it was the most transcendent experience I had listening to guitar in a long time.
I was wandering around space, my brain imploding from the gravitational force of the oncoming black hole and constantly playing the new Ufomammut on repeat, it was the most transcendent experience I had listening to guitar in a long time...
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:40 (nine years ago) link
Those people who recoil from Dierks Bentley or Brantley Gilbert should check Womack out.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:40 (nine years ago) link
if you haven't seen them live, forsyth's band is where it's at i like his playing a lot but if it weren't for the rest of them (props to the rhythm section esp) the songs would not be as movingone does not need to be lit in order to enjoy that
hope it places!
― groundless round (La Lechera), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:43 (nine years ago) link
if anyone wants to invite me over to get lit and listen to it though, lemme know
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:45 (nine years ago) link
Can I just say how happy I am that the true ineffability of DJ Q won out over the false ineffability of Ronika?
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:45 (nine years ago) link
i'm still sorry!
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:46 (nine years ago) link
Honestly I feel like Ronika is something I would have been really into if it came out in 2007 but I have no time for that strand of 80s revivalism at all anymore.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:53 (nine years ago) link
hmph
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:56 (nine years ago) link
steve gunn record is really cool btw, good new find for me
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:58 (nine years ago) link
"revivalism" is such a worthless word to describe music in 2015
― example (crüt), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:58 (nine years ago) link
gonna paint my nails and listen to selectadisc rn
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:59 (nine years ago) link
Does DJ Q have an actual posting presence on ILX or are you guys riding some in-joke i dunno about?
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:00 (nine years ago) link
i don't think he posts but he definitely got the title for his record from rev's thread
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:01 (nine years ago) link
http://f.cl.ly/items/3z3e1x2C2C442e2m0F1H/IMG_0561.jpg
― example (crüt), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:01 (nine years ago) link
Reverend is in charge of any use of the word "ineffable" and we mistakenly tried to describe Ronika that way once. We received a cease and desist.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:01 (nine years ago) link
xxxps to Fastnbulbous
I think a fucking cave would would be a more suitable location for you pal
― xelab, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:02 (nine years ago) link
dude is cute and definitely effable imo
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:05 (nine years ago) link
How did you know?
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:06 (nine years ago) link
the ineffable genius of DJ Qtotally missed the thread, it's a fun skim
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:06 (nine years ago) link
kinda shocked Lewis isn't top 20 tbh
― gr8080, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:09 (nine years ago) link
can't see crut's post -maybe it's the same thing- but this was posted by tracer to the ilx thread 2 years ago:
http://images-mix.netdna-ssl.com/w/600/h/600/q/85/upload/images/extaudio/f4b9b328-f563-42b8-bccb-93a2167bf17b.jpg
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:09 (nine years ago) link
reason i tried is i got a similar charge and iridescent vibes from the ronika record as i got from tropical 2 despite them not resembling each other at all
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:10 (nine years ago) link
I fin intense antipathy towards Wil Beasts weird, they have most of the qualities that people who tend to hate indie rock say it lacks
― Simon H., Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:12 (nine years ago) link
does he post on here? He might be miffed that the 1D discussion overwhelmed his space.
― xelab, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:13 (nine years ago) link
He's posted a few times in the DJ Q thread and made a really good exclusive mix for us in that thread once.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:17 (nine years ago) link
https://twitter.com/search?q=ilxor%20from%3Adjqmusic&src=typd
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:18 (nine years ago) link
wow, that's awesome!
― Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:19 (nine years ago) link
I never saw the irl crossover between album title and thread, this is an eye opener for me.
― xelab, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:21 (nine years ago) link
aww i had no idea, that's so cool
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:23 (nine years ago) link
ronika album is good clean fun, i am enjoying it.
I tried to get the Decibel festival to book him this year so I could see him play/meet him, but it was not to be. u___u
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:23 (nine years ago) link
xp xelab, oh, I thought that was a compliment but perhaps not. I wasn't poking fun at you, I liked your post and just repurposed it for other guitar xperiences. Sadly my psychedelic doom cave/listening lair has been dismantled as we sell our place. I can't wait to move and bring it back, more cave-like than ever.
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:37 (nine years ago) link
oh man i want a psychedelic doom cave/listening lair
― Mordy, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:39 (nine years ago) link
Very glad to see The Way I'm Livin' place so high. My #1.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5_xgDDrvzo― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:31 (1 hour ago) Permalink
Best on the record and the best country song I heard in 2014. But the album really picks up around "Nightwind" and doesn't let up. Side 2 is flawless, imo.
― Indexed, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:39 (nine years ago) link
Listening now to the one direction album and realising they're as good at this point as girls aloud were back in the day.
― ewar woowar (or something), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:41 (nine years ago) link
Part of the album's trouble is its tentative start.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:46 (nine years ago) link
i think the first half of the womack is the better half! not that it tails off but the opening run until "same kind of different" is just flawless
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:47 (nine years ago) link
followed by "Don't Listen to the Wind"!
*runs to play album*
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:48 (nine years ago) link
btw it also boasts the best recent Neil Young cover.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:49 (nine years ago) link
"don't listen to the wind" comes before "same kind of different"?
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:49 (nine years ago) link
no -- I'm saying that right after this sequence comes another amazing song.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:50 (nine years ago) link
have gone back to last year's Solar Motel album and realised that it is also great.
― xelab, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:53 (nine years ago) link
oh i was talking about the tracks 1-7 sequence as the amazing run. "out on the weekend" is where that ends imo
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:53 (nine years ago) link
Cher Lloyd and One Direction placing? Future Islands yet to place?
Christ, what a shit year.
― You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:55 (nine years ago) link
Oh yeah, of the 37 albums we've posted so far, you find 2 objectionable and 1 more that probably coming. Definitely points toward a shit year.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:56 (nine years ago) link
Proves to me there wasn't enough good music released to edge 'em out.
― You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:58 (nine years ago) link
yes but you have terrible taste in music
― WRINKLEPAWSOME (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 00:00 (nine years ago) link
maybe you should edge out on a brit pop thread instead of complaining here
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 00:00 (nine years ago) link
what's the Forsyth album everybody's talking about? only heard the ep that came out this year and the last song on it is my jam.
― Heez, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 00:02 (nine years ago) link
2014 was the best albums-I-like year I've experienced in a long while, so I was kind of glad the albums poll fell to me this year in the rotation. Hoping 2015 is awesome for individual tracks/singles again, because it's back to the tracks poll for me next time.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 00:03 (nine years ago) link
Not enough straight edge music in the poll
sXeTrue Til Death
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 00:04 (nine years ago) link
not enough bike horn music imo
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 00:07 (nine years ago) link
not enough from the Camden Lurch scene on here imo
― xelab, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 00:09 (nine years ago) link
still waiting for some skiffle revival LPs to show up
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 00:10 (nine years ago) link
oh man i want a psychedelic doom cave/listening lair― Mordy
The cave as it was.
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 00:13 (nine years ago) link
damn looks cozy
― Mordy, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 00:15 (nine years ago) link
ingenious sequencing folds a neil young song i was sort of sick of into the rich narrative of the record! the lee ann womack record everyone!
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 00:19 (nine years ago) link
maybe you should edge out on a brit synth pop thread instead of complaining here― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Wednesday, January 28, 2015 12:00 AM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Wednesday, January 28, 2015 12:00 AM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Fixed.
― You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 00:21 (nine years ago) link
Just saw that Avi Buffalo split - wonder if anyone but me threw a vote to At Best Cuckold. (The other worthwhile indie-pop record, which I forgot about for a bit just now.) Really hit the spot for jangly self-loathing.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 28 January 2015 00:35 (nine years ago) link
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 23:47 (Yesterday) Permalink
Suffice it to say there isn't a bad song on the album, it's more about pacing to me--the second half has a few more uptempo songs that just make it a really pleasurable listen.
I said this in the Rolling Country thread, but will add a bit more color: there were more imaginative, ambitious, and innovative country albums released this year to be sure; Sturgill Simpson and Miranda Lambert come to mind. But this was the best made by a long shot. The song choices are perfect with a cast of writers (including Natalie Hemby, Bruce Robison, Julie Miller, and yes, Neil Young) and players (among them Matt Chamberlain, Glenn Worf, and legendary steel guitarist Paul Franklin) to rival any country album in recent memory. And that just speaks to the continued success of Womack's husband/producer Frank Liddell, who imo has been behind as many quality country albums as anyone in the last decade-plus: all of Miranda Lambert's, both Pistol Annies records, the last two from Kellie Pickler, and some strong work with Eli Young Band and David Nail, to name a few.
― Indexed, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 01:02 (nine years ago) link
thanks for mentioning Lidell, who's been producer of the year imo for three years.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 01:09 (nine years ago) link
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, January 27, 2015 11:01 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
feel like i've been written out of history ;_;
― Tim F, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 01:23 (nine years ago) link
Aw, Tim. I actually don't know the legacy of that word as it relates to ilm, so if I left you out it was a mistake. I was just going by what happened in the Ronika thread.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 01:39 (nine years ago) link
ILX first mentions (kind of, anyway): The Ineffable Beauty of Tropical 2
― so not gonna häpna (seandalai), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 01:42 (nine years ago) link
Catching up with today...my only vote to place was Lewis; DJ Q, Fennesz, Moodymann, Kelis were on my mental longlist; "Archie" is great but the rest of the Alvvays album didn't grab me; expected to like Young Marco much more than I did; really need to listen to Gigi Masin but I'm lazy about albums that aren't on Spotify.
― so not gonna häpna (seandalai), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 01:47 (nine years ago) link
I forgive you JF, you have saved us so many times.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 02:48 (nine years ago) link
When there was only one set of footprints it was when JF carried ILX
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 03:00 (nine years ago) link
Unlurking to thank the voters for turning me on to a lot of really enjoyable music in these results. (Much more so from the albums than tracks.)
― WilliamC, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 03:35 (nine years ago) link
lol, i'm 2/37. one from each day. that is about to change however, i can feel it.
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 03:41 (nine years ago) link
Avi Buffalo
nice enough record, but not something i would have voted for
― don't ask me why i posted this (electricsound), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 04:06 (nine years ago) link
Voted for Ronika, as its arguably as good as any album from the 80's Nile Rodgers production/freestyle/Ze Records era, and there's nothing sacrosanct about any Pop graveyard. Pleased to see Kelis. DJ Q is a belated discovery.
― The inscrutable savantism of (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 05:00 (nine years ago) link
one thing that i know was totally overlooked and is very good / more exciting than e.g. leon vynehall was shinichi atobe's butterfly effect. i should have voted in this.
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 05:19 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, maybe that's a bit of a silly comment. Typed out after a couple of beers!
I guess my feeling is that as the glitch aesthetics and post-digital has become convention, the kitsch sentimentalism that Endless Summer was first engaging with doesn't have such an obvious foil against all the signal processing. So the whole thing unfortunately comes across as a bit trite to my ears these days. That said, I'd be curious to return to 'plus forty seven degrees 56' 37" minus sixteen degrees 51' 08"' and 'Field Recordings' maybe.
― MikoMcha, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 06:22 (nine years ago) link
xp 'butterfly effect' is pretty good, idk about exciting
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 28 January 2015 06:34 (nine years ago) link
otm
― Nourry, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 06:35 (nine years ago) link
I was a bit disappointed by Butterfly Effect...expectations might have been a bit high but it didnt particularly grab me
― saer, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 06:44 (nine years ago) link
these results are not satanic enough.
― billstevejim, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 06:58 (nine years ago) link
1Direction tho
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 07:55 (nine years ago) link
http://www.overthinkingit.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/1d-satan-banner-590x331.jpg
― Dinsdale, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 08:00 (nine years ago) link
More like One DIMENSION, amirite?
― MikoMcha, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 08:03 (nine years ago) link
666Direction there's 5 of them so they can stand at all 5 points in the pentagram before sacrificing a virgin for the dark lord
― billstevejim, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 08:04 (nine years ago) link
the other singers in this countdown could take a lesson from their example
I'd never heard of One Direction before this poll, are they like a boy band? They look really young in those pics.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 08:17 (nine years ago) link
Really enjoying this Ronika album
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 08:39 (nine years ago) link
Yes Tuomas they are just like a boy band except they sacrifice livestock to Azrael
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 08:43 (nine years ago) link
That's One Direction
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 08:44 (nine years ago) link
Classic One D!
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 09:30 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/htMIKBH.jpg
― ledge, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 09:34 (nine years ago) link
― MikoMcha, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 09:38 (nine years ago) link
btw - hooray for Gigi Masin! Amazing collection of tracks, and great work by the Music From Memory guys for putting this together.
― MikoMcha, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 09:41 (nine years ago) link
DJ Q is like Funkystepz for me in that his tunes (instrumentals especially) are like mini-Autobot components of a whole and they just don't sound right on their own. Like nearly everything on the album is good and I think I voted for it but I keep thinking about how much more thrilling they'd be pitched up in the mix and all piled on top of one another. As someone who came up through records like the Brown album and Exit Planet Dust, I like dance albums to feel like DJ sets and the album didn't capture the rushiness of his own sets, when it quite easily could have done.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 12:39 (nine years ago) link
OTM. Q's tracks have a consistent vibe and are relatively short for dance tracks, so a mixed album (possibly with a separate-track vinyl release for DJs) would have been a lot more useful.
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 12:47 (nine years ago) link
My highlight was 'Trust Again' FWIW
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 12:49 (nine years ago) link
Yeah the thing that prevented me loving Ineffable more is that it wasn't clear to me why I was listening to discrete album tracks from the best DJ in the world. It's still a great album but can't compete with one of Q's better MoS or Nocturnal sets let alone seeing him spin live (best night ever still).
― Tim F, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 12:54 (nine years ago) link
Voted for Fennesz and Alvvays from yesterday's run, I liked the Katy B and Lee Ann Womack albums as well, the latter is completely out of my wheelhouse but yeah it definitely deserves to place.
― Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 13:00 (nine years ago) link
― Simon H., woensdag 28 januari 2015 1:35 (13 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I threw it a vote. Loved their debut album, the second one was really good too. No way it'll pop up here though.
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 13:42 (nine years ago) link
just struck me that unless ariana grande places in the top 40 (which i think...possible but unlikely?), she'll get shut out completely. no track, no album, not even a guest spot
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 13:50 (nine years ago) link
Still getting over the fact that "Bang Bang" finished higher on the tracks poll than anything on her album.
― Tove Lo Tove You Baby (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 13:53 (nine years ago) link
I'm beginning to think that nothing I voted for will actually place in the top 77. :( I guess Neheh Cherry or Mirel Wagner or Meshell Ndegeocello still might appear, though their chances feel a bit slim already.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 13:56 (nine years ago) link
Also, it was probably pointless to vote for two classical albums, because the only classical that has any chance of making it in these polls is indie-friendly crossover stuff like that Winged Victory album.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:00 (nine years ago) link
or Clean Bandit
;)
― Ban Kil Moon (imago), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:01 (nine years ago) link
I think Neneh Cherry has a good shot at making it!
― example (crüt), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:05 (nine years ago) link
really really hope mirel wagner does! i actually counted up everyone who loved it in her thread. it came to less than the total votes albums around this mark are getting though :///
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:07 (nine years ago) link
Ian William Craig?
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:07 (nine years ago) link
Fingers crossed for Gazelle Twin, Lamb, and Mr. Twin Sister. Its today or never.
― The inscrutable savantism of (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:10 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/EzpzehY.jpg
40 LANA DEL REY Ultraviolence [390 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote]
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:11 (nine years ago) link
It's a great album and it took me a while to realise it. Was top 10 for me.
― Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:12 (nine years ago) link
people still rate this person hm?
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:13 (nine years ago) link
'shades of cool' was quite haunting, haven't heard the rest
― Ban Kil Moon (imago), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:13 (nine years ago) link
Lana Del ReyStraight in at number 40Video Gaaaaames
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:14 (nine years ago) link
dont feel comfortable with this albums promotion of violence
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:14 (nine years ago) link
the mk remix of "west coast" was a biiiiiig tune for me in 2014. i need to keep more up-to-date on house remixes of LDR if not her source material
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:15 (nine years ago) link
sort of admire that she's retreated even further into her thing though
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:16 (nine years ago) link
great album, played it a tonne this summer
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:17 (nine years ago) link
Had this in the bottom half of my list, big improvement on her first album.
― Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:19 (nine years ago) link
i liked the original "West Coast" a lot, shocking more because it was the Black Keys guy than because it was LDR.
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:20 (nine years ago) link
the mk remix of "west coast" was a biiiiiig tune for me in 2014. i need to keep more up-to-date on house remixes of LDR if not her source material― lex pretend, Wednesday, January 28, 2015 2:15 PM
― lex pretend, Wednesday, January 28, 2015 2:15 PM
Not heard the MK remix but did play the Zhu one a lot this year
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:20 (nine years ago) link
virtually no difference from her placing in 2012:
40 LANA DEL REY Ultraviolence [390 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote]35. LANA DEL REY Born to Die (392 Points, 11 Votes)
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:21 (nine years ago) link
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:23 (nine years ago) link
my first album vote to place
This album was a massive grower for me. Was really disappointed with it the first couple of listens but I kept coming back to it and ended up putting it in my top 10. I was surprised how well it did in all the end of year critics lists.
― Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:26 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/MV057fR.jpg
TIE-38 ANGEL OLSEN Burn Your Fire for No Witness [390 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote]
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:32 (nine years ago) link
The Angel Olsen was solid and good but somehow I never got DEEP into it
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:33 (nine years ago) link
she's good
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:34 (nine years ago) link
ooh a tie!
― Ratt in Mi Kitchen (Neil S), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:34 (nine years ago) link
The Lana Del Rey album has a couple of good songs on it; unfortunately one of them is called "Fucked My Way To The Top"
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:35 (nine years ago) link
i vaguely assumed that song was a 'lol this is what people think of me' satire like "Blank Space"
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:36 (nine years ago) link
Really like Angel Olsen's voice but the songs just didn't stick at all. Thought she would be a lot higher.
― Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:36 (nine years ago) link
i know nothing about Angel Olsen. Who is she and what does she do?
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:36 (nine years ago) link
thought i'd like angel olsen, didn't hate it but the songs really didn't stick and the scratchy arrangements weren't enough to keep me persevering...
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:37 (nine years ago) link
Yay Angel Olsen! Third vote placed.
― tangenttangent, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:41 (nine years ago) link
Really like Angel Olsen's voice but the songs just didn't stick at all.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:43 (nine years ago) link
Never really got into the first Lana Del Rey album but love this one. There are some bad songs but the good ones are amazing.
― silverfish, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:44 (nine years ago) link
know nothing about Angel Olsen. Who is she and what does she do?
kinda leonard cohen, kinda roy orbison, kinda pixies. this album was great and her writing is wonderful, best song is probably 'hi five'. such a warm, human album. still didn't vote for it though
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:44 (nine years ago) link
"cruel world" tho
― indie fuxxor albums i have secretly spotified (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:45 (nine years ago) link
(re: LDR)
― indie fuxxor albums i have secretly spotified (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:46 (nine years ago) link
I feel like a lot of people who loved Video Games but were really disappointed with her first album really like Ultraviolence.
― Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:46 (nine years ago) link
huh, I bought that LDR album on itunes a while ago and never got around to listening to it
― Dan S, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:47 (nine years ago) link
that's the sort of ennui-soaked profligacy she sings about!
― Ban Kil Moon (imago), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:48 (nine years ago) link
― Dan S, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:48 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/PO2ILrF.jpg
TIE-38 MARK BARROTT Sketches From an Island [390 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote]
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:49 (nine years ago) link
― Kitchen Person, Wednesday, January 28, 2015 9:46 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
This is certainly the case for me.
― silverfish, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:50 (nine years ago) link
so who is Mark Barrott?
― Dan S, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:51 (nine years ago) link
Yesssss
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:51 (nine years ago) link
sweeeeet
― Ratt in Mi Kitchen (Neil S), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:51 (nine years ago) link
xxp Balearic beach hippy house vibes, a bit more purposeful than the nearly-as-good Young MArco album IMO
― Ratt in Mi Kitchen (Neil S), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:52 (nine years ago) link
never heard of it! great cover though :-) :-) would sit nicely next to the botanist record
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:52 (nine years ago) link
ah fantasticmissed my ballot but this mark barrott album is beautifulas beautiful as the artwork
― nxd, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:52 (nine years ago) link
so who is Mark Barrott?― Dan S, Wednesday, January 28, 2015
― Dan S, Wednesday, January 28, 2015
Lives on Ibiza and runs the International Feel label. Ace Balearic vibes
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:53 (nine years ago) link
I haven't heard this but really liked Baby Come Home from the Spotify playlist. Not sure I'd need a whole album of that kind of thing though.
― Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:55 (nine years ago) link
that track's a bit anomalous TBH, a good opener but the rest of the album is a lot less baggy and more blissed-out Hatchback vibing
― Ratt in Mi Kitchen (Neil S), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:56 (nine years ago) link
I like the cover, and the title! will have to check it out
― Dan S, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:56 (nine years ago) link
can someone explain angel olsen to me? i tried and tried but have no idea what's interesting about that record.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:56 (nine years ago) link
yeh baby come home is unique compared to the rest of the album
― nxd, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:56 (nine years ago) link
yesss that mark barrott album is so so fine. another one that slipped off my ballot bizarrely. agree that it does a lot of what the young marco album did but with more purpose
"dr. nimm's garden of intrigue and delight"
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:57 (nine years ago) link
Baby Come Home kind of reminded me of Sebastien Tellier which is no bad thing at all. Might give the rest of the album a go. As others have already said, the artwork is really beautiful.
― Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:00 (nine years ago) link
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, January 28, 2015 8:56 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I didn't vote for it but liked its sound, which is a darker, broodier take on Sharon Van Etten.
It was the AV Club's #1 album of the year. Here's the write up:
More of a slow, warm smolder than an incinerator, Burn Your Fire For No Witness tops this list after creeping into voters’ hearts and minds over the course of 2014. Released in February on Jagjaguwar, Angel Olsen’s second studio LP is an exercise in quiet badassery, solid from front to back with nary a moment of shallow emotion or thin, clichéd “solo female singer-songwriter” sound in sight. Olsen’s Patsy Cline-like coo works with simple but full instrumentation to make songs like “Unfucktheworld” and “Forgiven/Forgotten” statements of both seduction and malice. Olsen is clearly an artist who’s lived through loss, loneliness, and heartbreak, and grown stronger in spite of all the drama, emerging on Burn Your Fire with a passion that’s not only impressive, but downright aspirational. Olsen might not look like a shit-starter, but wrong her or someone she loves, and she’ll harness all her emotion and power to reduce you to ashes with one callous and withering glare. Just because her name is “Angel” doesn’t mean Olsen won’t fuck you up. [Marah Eakin]
http://www.avclub.com/article/20-best-albums-2014-212282
― Indexed, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:00 (nine years ago) link
i also really like the front cover of the young marcos album as well.
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:01 (nine years ago) link
well if you don't like the basic sound of it there's no point in forcing yourself tbh, but beyond that basic appeal, i only made a real connection to it once i started listening to the lyrics
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:02 (nine years ago) link
re: Angel Olsen I think her voice sounds unique in today's world, it has a hyperemotional but not hysterical quality. to me it also sounds like something from the 60s/70s folk era
― Dan S, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:02 (nine years ago) link
Yeahhhh Barrott!
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:03 (nine years ago) link
The Emma Ruth Rundle album won my listening time and vote that would otherwise have fallen to Olsen.
― The inscrutable savantism of (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:04 (nine years ago) link
wasn't nuts about some of barrott's cheesier sounds but it's really nice overall
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:05 (nine years ago) link
Voted for all of Young Marco, Gigi Masin, Mark Barrett, very glad to see them all placing - played them all a ton this year, great music for being lazy to.
― toby, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:09 (nine years ago) link
Here's one you all can argue about for the next hour while I drive to work...
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:13 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/a0FUdRv.jpg
37 SPOON They Want My Soul [400 points, 11 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:14 (nine years ago) link
traditional outraged squawk at shit indie sullying my shoes
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:15 (nine years ago) link
Count me as another skeptic who came around on Lana Del Ray, fantastic album
Love Angel Olsen as well "Unfuck the World" should have made the tracks poll
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:16 (nine years ago) link
horrifically offensive post aimed at Spoon and their fans; subsequent apology
― Ban Kil Moon (imago), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:16 (nine years ago) link
why spoon, why?
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:17 (nine years ago) link
Love this album/band
― Indexed, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:18 (nine years ago) link
I don't get Spoon
― Stig of the sanctimonious uncontextualized linkdump (Michael B), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:18 (nine years ago) link
me and my Spoon
― Ratt in Mi Kitchen (Neil S), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:21 (nine years ago) link
some thrill spoon
― nxd, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:22 (nine years ago) link
I love Spoon and liked this album but it's definitely one of their weaker ones for me.
― Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:23 (nine years ago) link
Possibly favourite spoon song: http://youtu.be/POvLaziUsTo
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:24 (nine years ago) link
2014: 37. SPOON They Want My Soul [400 points, 11 votes]2010: 43. SPOON — Transference (374 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote)2007: 6. Spoon - Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga (203 points, 17 votes)2005: 3. Spoon - Gimme Fiction (221.5 points, 20 votes, 2 number ones)2002: 37. SPOON - Kill The Moonlight (20 points)
full circle from 37 to 37!
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:25 (nine years ago) link
I like spoon fine but stopped paying close attn around kill the moonlight wow 13! yrs ago
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:27 (nine years ago) link
xp spoonerang
― Ratt in Mi Kitchen (Neil S), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:28 (nine years ago) link
oh, ilm paws
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:28 (nine years ago) link
the track they placed previously was OK, but it was over five minutes long and did not appear to have a chord change or any variation
filing this under "idgi"
― WRINKLEPAWSOME (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:29 (nine years ago) link
― Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, January 28, 2015 9:23 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This, basically. "Transference" was better
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:29 (nine years ago) link
Will never ever understand Spoon.
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:30 (nine years ago) link
Voted for this, lots of great songs on the record. New York Kiss, the title track, I Just Don't Understand, Rent I Pay...
― quan voice (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:30 (nine years ago) link
Wither, spoons
― xelab, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:30 (nine years ago) link
liked this one the one time i played it. never played it again. i've said it before, but Spoon are the best most boring band out there and they suit a certain mood. like, there's a certain time or mood you can be in when it doesn't matter if music's boring. and by boring, i mean they are good at doing a lot with just a dogged insistence on plain-bread rock instrumentation. another good example of this is the horrors' album from this year (which i liked but doubt will place) - greyscale 80s pop-psychedelia which doesn't so much shock and awe as flow through you. close listening didn't make sense, but it made perfect music for when i was fixing my bike.
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:30 (nine years ago) link
general comment: this thread needs more saer
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:32 (nine years ago) link
for sooth, saer
― Ratt in Mi Kitchen (Neil S), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:33 (nine years ago) link
Transference is their weakest album, IMO.
KTM > GCT > TWMS > GGGGG > GF > ASOS > Transference
― Indexed, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:36 (nine years ago) link
Just imagine sitting around thinking up band names and thinking "Spoon? Yeah that'll do."
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:41 (nine years ago) link
so much worse than the knife!
― Indexed, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:42 (nine years ago) link
i've never shaken my impression of Spoon as "Grunge Beck" based on their Matador-era early music
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:43 (nine years ago) link
as in they literally just looked and sounded to me like Beck fronting a grunge band
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:44 (nine years ago) link
It is much worse than The Knife actually (and a bit worse than just calling yourselves 'Knife').
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:44 (nine years ago) link
the one named after a genesis song is so much better than the one named after a can song, just saying
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:45 (nine years ago) link
woo great day so far (even w/ the terrible LDR inclusion). i voted for angel olsen - which i love for its gothicy folk americana strands - and the mark barrott.
― Mordy, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:45 (nine years ago) link
spoon sounded okay but kinda boring? idk, i get why preexisting fans might like it.
gonna chime in and say i never liked any previous spoon album in full but this new one i thoroughly enjoyed from beginning to end. not sure if that's a reflection of the album or just how my tastes have changed.
― misterjoshua, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:50 (nine years ago) link
every Spoon album has been underrated
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:50 (nine years ago) link
Why do so many ilxors vote for shit pitchfork approved indie like the sheeple they accuse top 40 fans of being?Too many lists look the same because of it.
― strychnine, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:50 (nine years ago) link
It's weird to me holding KTM as a benchmark when they're so maddeningly devoted to an aesthetic that won't allow any but minor deviations. The trick is to like the aesthetic.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:51 (nine years ago) link
a ton of this list has been stuff i've never heard of and/or am reasonably sure was not on Pitchfork's EOY lists
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:52 (nine years ago) link
inividuals' routine rote dismissal of entire genres is my least favourite thing about ILM
anyway if you like Spoon this is an excellent Spoon album
― Simon H., Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:53 (nine years ago) link
sock disses spoon, more news at ten
― Ratt in Mi Kitchen (Neil S), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:54 (nine years ago) link
Some dude i only mean the indie
― strychnine, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:54 (nine years ago) link
spoon is probably the most boring possible band name ever which kept me from listening to them for the longest time
― Mordy, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:55 (nine years ago) link
Hell is an hour of Spoon opinions.
― Tay-Tay Brooklynpants (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:58 (nine years ago) link
educated ILMers want Spoon's soul
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:00 (nine years ago) link
In a world where people think names like Rae Sremmurd are a good idea, I welcome and appreciate bands like Spoon who keep it simple.
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:00 (nine years ago) link
at least yesterday's Fever-driving-to-work slot was Botanist
― Ban Kil Moon (imago), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:03 (nine years ago) link
spoon could have instantly been 100% more interesting if they'd have called themselves noops xp
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:04 (nine years ago) link
Why do so many ilxors vote for shit pitchfork approved indie like the sheeple they accuse top 40 fans of being?Too many lists look the same because of it.― strychnine, Wednesday, January 28, 2015 3:50 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― strychnine, Wednesday, January 28, 2015 3:50 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
you are raccoon tanuki and i claim my £5
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:04 (nine years ago) link
Spooge.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:04 (nine years ago) link
it's how i'll forever remember 3-4pm
― nxd, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:04 (nine years ago) link
i tried to listen to the Khun Narin album this morning on the way to work and it was rly great for like 5 min and then it just kinda got dull hearing it over and over
― Jennifer 8.-( (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:07 (nine years ago) link
for years I thought Spoon were the same band as UK ska punk lamers (spunge)
Anyway, their best album is Gimme Fiction. Transference was decent too - loved the deliberately rough-cut editing style.
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:08 (nine years ago) link
i'm still pretty blown away by noura mint seymali, def one of my best ilx discoveries in a minute
\i tried to listen to the Khun Narin album this morning on the way to work and it was rly great for like 5 min and then it just kinda got dull hearing it over and over
― Jennifer 8.-( (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, January 28, 2015 10:07 AM (6 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
nah i love the repetitive stuff that goes on and on and on and on infinity weird microtonal blues 4ever until i'm dead
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:08 (nine years ago) link
Save us, uh...me!
http://i.imgur.com/9i61HLi.jpg
36 AZEALIA BANKS Broke With Expensive Taste [408 points, 16 votes, 1 first place vote]
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:09 (nine years ago) link
I probably have the Spoon records in tiers. Transference and They Want My Soul are pretty top-heavy, but then Who Makes Your Money and Inside Out can do some heavy lifting.Telephono is one of the worst albums I have ever heard.
Gimme Fiction/Girls Can Tell/Ga Ga Ga Ga GaTransference/They Want My SoulKill The MoonlightA Series of SneaksTelephono
― campreverb, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:10 (nine years ago) link
I love BWET. Most of the stuff between 212 and BWET was pretty patchy so it was a such nice surprise how good this was.
― cajunsunday, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:12 (nine years ago) link
This was my biggest shock of the year. I really didn't expect it to be so great or to even sound like it does.
― Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:12 (nine years ago) link
*stuff RELEASED between 212 and BWET
interesting how much lower Azealia placed here than P&J (where it was #14).
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:13 (nine years ago) link
I gave this a curiosity listen and was shocked by how much I liked it, considering I've thought everything she's done up to this point (including "212") was at best competent.
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:16 (nine years ago) link
This was my biggest shock of the year.
co-sign
― Simon H., Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:17 (nine years ago) link
...but it made perfect music for when i was fixing my bike.― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin)
What kind of bike? Spoon is a good soundtrack for fixing an inexpensive 10-speed road bike. Not hip enough for a fixie, and not heavy enough for a chopper!
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:17 (nine years ago) link
interesting how much lower Azealia placed here than P&J (where it was #14)
It polled much better stateside across the pond.
the one named after a can song
Out of idle curiosity, artists named or potentially named after Can songs:
Deadlock, Paperhouse, Mother Sky, Mushroom, Oh Yeah, Halleluwah, Aumgn, Peking O, Pinch, Sing Swan Song, Vitamin C, Soup, Spoon, Future Days, Spray, Moonshake, Bel Air, Gomorrha, Musette, Blue Bag, Splash, Chain Reaction, Hunters And Collectors, Vernal Equinox, Unfinished, Smoke, Flow Motion, Call Me, Fly By Night, Serpentine, November, Safe, Sodom, Ping Pong, Butterfly, Pnoom, Thief
― The inscrutable savantism of (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:20 (nine years ago) link
I wasn't shocked so much as relieved.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:20 (nine years ago) link
What kind of bike? Spoon is a good soundtrack for fixing an inexpensive 10-speed road bike. Not hip enough for a fixie, and not heavy enough for a chopper!― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, January 28, 2015 4:17 PM (35 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, January 28, 2015 4:17 PM (35 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
just a regular £300 mountain bike. It's kind of fucked now and needs a new chain and sprocket set. i dream of selling it and getting a cyclocross like sick mouthy has.
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:22 (nine years ago) link
too low
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:22 (nine years ago) link
― some dude, Wednesday, January 28, 2015 10:13 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah this is startling
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:24 (nine years ago) link
No it's not, considering how thoroughly most of the posting community here had written her off.
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:25 (nine years ago) link
Telephono is one of the worst albums I have ever heard.
o_O (this is the only Spoon album I actually listen to or give a damn about)
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:25 (nine years ago) link
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, January 28, 2015 9:51 AM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
fwiw, I don't see KTM as the "benchmark," it's just my favorite. "Inside Out" might be the best song they've ever done, and it sounds nothing like KTM.
Agreed that BWET was far better than I was expecting but I can't see listening to it 5 years from now.
― Indexed, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:26 (nine years ago) link
What is A. Banks' music? Descriptive eulogies pls
― Ban Kil Moon (imago), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:26 (nine years ago) link
I was really into Azealia's EP a while back, but listening to the whole thing for the first time during a road trip was a tough slog. It's kind of busy with vocals relatively buried, didn't mesh well with the ambient noise of a car on the highway. I'd probably like it better on headphones.
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:26 (nine years ago) link
obv I remember her shouting 'imma ruin you cunt' over and over but all else escapes
― Ban Kil Moon (imago), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:27 (nine years ago) link
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Wednesday, January 28, 2015 11:25 AM (54 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i dunno if her tweets and whatnot were significantly more divisive here than they were among the staffs of the various publications that ranked her album higher
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:28 (nine years ago) link
i was NOT expecting this album to be so good either. xp imago idk like really interesting hip hop/dance/current trend stuff? riyl idk kid sister or mia or i mean dude haven't you heard "212" by now jesus
― Jennifer 8.-( (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:28 (nine years ago) link
tbh this album is delightfully all over the place musically. If you don't like the song you're hearing, the next one will be along any moment and you'll probably like that one.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:29 (nine years ago) link
although i suppose there was always a faction who just loved her since "212" and was unbothered or unaware of a lot of what transpired outside her records since then xp
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:29 (nine years ago) link
never listened to it before cos she seems like an incredibly annoying person, but this is okay. the tracks seem to go on forever though in a bit of a disjointed way
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:31 (nine years ago) link
is there anything else on it as good as chasing time?
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:32 (nine years ago) link
it's definitely (for me anyway) an album to experience as a whole - a good listen for walking or driving where you can just marinate in it
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:33 (nine years ago) link
Even if I'd heard BWET before I made my ballot, it wouldn't have made it; the simple fact that I wasn't wholly revulsed and actually enjoyed most of it puts it way above the rest of her material but doesn't displace my actual favorites from the past year.
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:33 (nine years ago) link
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, January 28, 2015 10:29 AM (53 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
"Delightfully all over the place" / "Totally disjointed". You say potato, I say potato. It's no White Album, but again, it's better than I expected. The Araabmuzik track is a lot of fun.
― Indexed, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:33 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/4qZGLuL.jpg
35 TONI BRAXTON & BABYFACE Love, Marriage & Divorce [414 points, 14 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:38 (nine years ago) link
This album is FANTASTIC
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:39 (nine years ago) link
YESSSSS
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:39 (nine years ago) link
Need to listen to this again. I only heard it once at the beginning of the year and really liked it but for some reason never went back to it.
― Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:39 (nine years ago) link
i should've voted for this, it's really good
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:40 (nine years ago) link
WOW
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:41 (nine years ago) link
I still jam to this a couple times a week.
not heard this before, but this looks like an r'n'b album i could get into.
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:42 (nine years ago) link
I have played "I Wish" so much this year, it's kind of ridiculous
I gushed about this album to my wife and she listened to it once and got super worried. After a ridiculous "are you trying to tell me something?" conversation she never went back to it.
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:43 (nine years ago) link
I never got around to listening to this until the noms process was underway, and by the time I'd already pretty much cemented my ballot, but if I'd had more time with it I'm sure I'd have voted for it. Wonderful record.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:43 (nine years ago) link
Looool
― 龜, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:43 (nine years ago) link
Xp to DJP
― 龜, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:44 (nine years ago) link
I still need to hear this, nb I know next to nothing about either of them aside from "Un-Breaky My Heart" and a hand of Boyz II Men singles
― example (crüt), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:44 (nine years ago) link
uh, Un-Break obv
it's so good that even the extra track "Let's Do It" sounds like the greatest Ne-Yo song ever.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:44 (nine years ago) link
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Wednesday, January 28, 2015 11:43 AM (44 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
haha yeah it can be a little awkward to be happily married but totally appreciate when someone makes a great breakup album
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:45 (nine years ago) link
You can't break my heartMy un-breaky heart
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:45 (nine years ago) link
so if you really wanna fight we can take it to the bed tonight
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:45 (nine years ago) link
album is the perfect length too
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:46 (nine years ago) link
my #2 P&J album
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:47 (nine years ago) link
there's really nothing to say about this album except that it sounds exactly like you would want it to
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:48 (nine years ago) link
glad i clicked on this thread right now - 'love, marriage & divorce' is a great, great record
from a different perspective its nice to listen to when youre going through a breakup
― wizaerd (Lamp), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:48 (nine years ago) link
nice not really the word i guess - cathartic probably what i meant
― wizaerd (Lamp), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:49 (nine years ago) link
btw crut, there was a period of time where Babyface was involved in almost every significant piece of black popular music; check this list of things he wrote, produced and/or performed that was nominated for or won awards:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babyface_%28musician%29#Awards
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:50 (nine years ago) link
o_O (this is the only Spoon album I actually listen to or give a damn about)― Johnny Fever
A+ trolling.
― campreverb, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:52 (nine years ago) link
also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babyface_discography
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:52 (nine years ago) link
Nah, that opinion or some variation of it has been consistent in every spoon thread on ilm for the last ten years. xp
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:53 (nine years ago) link
thanks DJP! I know a few of these songs, but I missed out on '90s pop and R&B radio so it's kind of a big hole in my knowledge that I need to correct
― example (crüt), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:55 (nine years ago) link
i still really like the grab bag of later non-R&B things Babyface did (Fall Out Boy, Eric Clapton, the Josie & The Pussycats soundtrack) and would like to hear him make a weird eclectic record someday. but the album with Toni is a homerun for his more familiar style.
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:55 (nine years ago) link
"i wish" is so good, so much acid and a great balance between being strong and being pathetic
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:56 (nine years ago) link
Kept meaning to check this out, seems as good an impetus as any
― Simon H., Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:57 (nine years ago) link
re: Toni Braxton, if you stick with her first two album you get 90% of what people know and love by her:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toni_Braxton_discography
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:57 (nine years ago) link
I Wish is fucking bitter as hell. Love it.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:58 (nine years ago) link
the angel olsen record was my no. 1 vote
― j. winters (josh), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:59 (nine years ago) link
secrets is a legitimately great album
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:59 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/sdZlgkY.jpg
34 ANDY STOTT Faith in Strangers [424 points, 14 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:00 (nine years ago) link
so is Toni Braxton
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:00 (nine years ago) link
toss in ""He Wasn't Man Enough"
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:01 (nine years ago) link
I LOVED the previous Andy Stott album but had zero desire to even investigate this one
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:03 (nine years ago) link
h8 that cover
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:04 (nine years ago) link
your instincts were correct – i felt this one was a let down.
― AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:05 (nine years ago) link
aw djp - this was his goth one as well!
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:06 (nine years ago) link
check out the title track for example: http://youtu.be/9BIYV3BLcno
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:08 (nine years ago) link
I missed the one weird trick of prior three releases, namely overbearing sidechain compression. I'm guessing inertia and belated recognition accounts for the critical praise.
OTOH, the cover art may be the best thing about more recent Andy Stott releases.
― The inscrutable savantism of (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:09 (nine years ago) link
listening to "Faith In Strangers" now
I am one who is all in favor of drawn-out intros but good god man, get on with it
much more interested in going back to the Lena Willikens album crut linked on the thread I started in Idiot Thread Repository than continuing with this, which has a slight "Squarepusher on quaaludes" vibe to it
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:12 (nine years ago) link
so ponderous xp
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:12 (nine years ago) link
i don't remember his last record having overbearing sidechain, it was pretty roomy. haven't heard this one yet but will check out at some point, i'm a mild admirer
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link
I put on Scuba Death's Nitrogen Narcosis (less ambitious, and better for it) far more often when seeking soporific dub techno in 2014.
― The inscrutable savantism of (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:16 (nine years ago) link
what exactly were the ambitions of this record?
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:17 (nine years ago) link
to serve man
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:18 (nine years ago) link
things pick up on it after the first three tracks tbh, it does get off to a very slow start
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:19 (nine years ago) link
I found even the last Andy Stott album, which seemingly everyone liked, to be dreary as hell, so no way am I going near this one.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:19 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/mOLc0q5.jpg
33 THE SOFT PINK TRUTH Why Do the Heathen Rage? [426 points, 16 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:21 (nine years ago) link
Oh thank god, finally something I voted for! Great, great record.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:22 (nine years ago) link
Ah excellent!
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:23 (nine years ago) link
yesss
― WRINKLEPAWSOME (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:23 (nine years ago) link
pro-tip: this album is rly fun sex music
― Jennifer 8.-( (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:23 (nine years ago) link
:D
― emil.y, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:24 (nine years ago) link
am i hearing the opening lyrics of this album correctly?
"ISIS, the rainbow of saphire mysteries, you are the calling I hear from the wind in my bones"
― Mordy, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:25 (nine years ago) link
Thank fuck for this, my #7, completely amazing work, an important album even
― Ban Kil Moon (imago), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:26 (nine years ago) link
Fuck yeah! Loved that SPT album.
― Non-Stop Erotic Calculus (bmus), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:26 (nine years ago) link
This has so many good moments. And yeah I know I said upthread the whole appropriation of black metal has been done a lot, but this gets it right. It treats the source material with respect while shining a light on all its nooks and crannies, not afraid to make fun of it either. I'm not that familiar with the original tracks - most of them are obscure even for BM - but it did make me go back and check them out. The difference in interpretations is significantly marked.anyway so many great moments: Let There Be Ebola Frost turned into a thunderous italo house tune being one of my faves.
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:28 (nine years ago) link
ok lol just realized it is probably referring to Isis, not ISIS.
― Mordy, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:28 (nine years ago) link
lmfao
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:28 (nine years ago) link
lay down that pipe son
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:28 (nine years ago) link
Love the Snap! sample on "Satanic Black Devotion".
― The inscrutable savantism of (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:30 (nine years ago) link
there's a sentence that piques my interest.
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:31 (nine years ago) link
I enjoyed that Andy Stott album more than anything I've heard of his in the past. It seemed somehow less dysphoric and more beautiful
I'm rapidly losing coherence, coming of a straight 24 hour stretch of work...
― Dan S, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:35 (nine years ago) link
*off
Really liked this album, especially "Let There Be Ebola Frost."
― Indexed, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:37 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/h2nE71J.jpg
32 ARIEL PINK Pom Pom [430 points, 15 votes, 1 first place vote]
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:38 (nine years ago) link
"put your number in my phone" is great - i was sure it was going to place on the singles poll
― Mordy, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:39 (nine years ago) link
Do the familiar song titles on SPT mean that it's an album of covers?
― Dan S, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:39 (nine years ago) link
megalol @ that SPT album cover
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:39 (nine years ago) link
possibly the most metal album of the year, almost certainly the most fun of the year imo
xfuckingposts
― Ban Kil Moon (imago), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:39 (nine years ago) link
Dan, yes, it's an album of black metal covers.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link
if you turn the ariel pink record the right way up, it's actually called 'wool wool'
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:43 (nine years ago) link
take that sheeple
Also time to rep for the SPT statement of intent, which I think is pitched perfectly (unlike the shitty shitty politics of AP).
Disclaimer: Aesthetics and Politics are neither equivalent nor separable. Black metal fandom all too often entails a tacit endorsement or strategic looking-the-other-way with regards to the racist, anti-Semitic, sexist and homophobic bullshit politics that (still) pervade the scene, on behalf of either escapist fantasy talk, shaky invocations of art as a crypto-religious path to transcendence, or--the oldest cop out in the book--the quietist declaration that “I just like how it sounds.” Just as blasphemy both affirms and assaults the sacred powers it invokes and inverts, so too this record celebrates black metal and offers queer critique / mockery / profanation of its ideological morass in equal measure. Mixed emotions about a murky, diverse and self-differential scene are all very well, but, as Barack Obama is so fond of saying at press conferences just before legitimizing drone warfare, let’s be clear: No apologies, no excuses, and no escape clauses are hereby offered. Murderers are murderers. No safe space for fascist garbage. The Soft Pink Truth hereby abjures black metal homophobes, racists, and Nazis categorically and absolutely: MAY THIS CURSE BIND! Remember Magne Andreassen!
― emil.y, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:43 (nine years ago) link
oh, thanks Emil.y, I'll have to check SPT out too
― Dan S, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:43 (nine years ago) link
Thank god Ariel Pink is out of the way.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:47 (nine years ago) link
I actually really liked about half of the Ariel Pink record, a first for me
― Simon H., Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:47 (nine years ago) link
ariel pink truth
― example (crüt), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:48 (nine years ago) link
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:48 (nine years ago) link
Great manifesto from Drew. What are Ariel Pink's shifty politics? My gf absolutely loves the album...
― Ban Kil Moon (imago), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:48 (nine years ago) link
I loved the Ariel Pink album on first listen, but when I tried to listen to it a second time it didn't seem as good. "Put Your Number In My Phone" is a great single though!
― example (crüt), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:49 (nine years ago) link
lol, shitty, even
― Ban Kil Moon (imago), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:49 (nine years ago) link
in interviews ariel pink comes across as a drugged out insane challoping "aren't i so un-PC" moron
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:50 (nine years ago) link
^^^
imago: http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/nov/15/ariel-pink-pom-pom-4ad
― WRINKLEPAWSOME (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:51 (nine years ago) link
I just got so sick of Ariel Pink being a garbage human being I couldn't be bothered to listen to him any more. Apparently it's a good record. I dunno, I like plenty of art made by assholes/evil people, but most of them aren't currently giving douchey interviews all the time.
xp imago, he's a misogynist twat, amongst other things. There's a strain of defence that says it's all 'arch' but ffs we don't need people spouting that crap whether they truly believe it or not.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:51 (nine years ago) link
Same.
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:52 (nine years ago) link
Different.
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:53 (nine years ago) link
the thing i'm most excited to hear from this late turn is the toni braxton babyface album
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:54 (nine years ago) link
Are we not doing P&J/P4K placements?
― 龜, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:56 (nine years ago) link
They weren't supplied to me for albums, and also I didn't care enough to ask.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:57 (nine years ago) link
They'll be in the the stats wrap-up though.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:58 (nine years ago) link
JF otm
― Ban Kil Moon (imago), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:01 (nine years ago) link
Listened to the Ariel Pink maybe 3/4 times. Way too Zappa. Lots of great ideas presented increasingly obnoxiously.
― All The Craigers Gonna Craig Craig Craig Craig Craig (Craigo Boingo), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:05 (nine years ago) link
Im on a train with no headphones, im enjoying the convivial nature of the conversations in the row adjacent, a man is laughing on the phone, he has the laughter of just being happy rather than anything in particular being funny, its nice to listen to, a lifting of the spirt
I cant really imagine playing any of todays choices, the names seem like shops and carpet warehouses on the main road into the city, I see them all the time from the window, they've been there ever since I can remember, but the signs are still well looked after. I cant remember if ive ever been in or not, I must have done at some point, I think I know exactly what they are like, but actually I have no idea
― saer, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:05 (nine years ago) link
I dunno, I feel like as it's more difficult to listen to the albums being listed than single tracks, it's more important for this poll to have the extra bits of info. On the other hand, it's a lot of work just doing it at all, so poll-runner's prerogative wins over my desire to have more stuff.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:07 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/9W9yayz.jpg
31 JESSIE WARE Tough Love [431 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote]
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:08 (nine years ago) link
Ariel Pink interview strikes me as contrarianism, whose impulse may at times be applauded even if its results may not. Haven't detected any asshole spewover into his art. Could be convinced either way. He seems problematic.
― Ban Kil Moon (imago), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:09 (nine years ago) link
I tried so hard with this album but it's just below the Lykke Li album as my biggest disappointment of the year.
― Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:10 (nine years ago) link
Ware album suffers only from questionable collaborative choices.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:10 (nine years ago) link
Also: too damn quiet.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:11 (nine years ago) link
i loved the lykke li! xxp the jessie ware was okay too.
― Mordy, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:11 (nine years ago) link
Weird. Lykke Li's album was my favorite of hers. Tough Love is on equal footing with Devotion imo.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:11 (nine years ago) link
I will say that I've quite liked the Ariel Pink songs I've heard, without giving the album a full listen - they seem generally interesting
― Ban Kil Moon (imago), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:12 (nine years ago) link
Tough Love is Too Low
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:12 (nine years ago) link
fun jessie ware facts:
"After her studies, Ware briefly worked as a journalist at The Jewish Chronicle, did sports journalism at The Daily Mirror and worked behind the scenes at TV company Love Productions. There, she was a colleague of Erika Leonard, otherwise known as E. L. James, the author of Fifty Shades of Grey.[17]"
― Mordy, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:13 (nine years ago) link
My one exposure to Ariel Pink was traumatic. for my ears.also, I'm not buying this Lewis album at all.
― campreverb, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:13 (nine years ago) link
Yes, let's applaud Ariel Pink's contrarianism.
"beta males have got it figured out so that they don't have to chase or rape their prey""beta males have got it figured out so that they don't have to chase or rape their prey""beta males have got it figured out so that they don't have to chase or rape their prey""beta males have got it figured out so that they don't have to chase or rape their prey""beta males have got it figured out so that they don't have to chase or rape their prey""beta males have got it figured out so that they don't have to chase or rape their prey"
Beta males. Got it figured out. So they don't have to chase or rape their prey. (That's women, btw.)
*applause*
― emil.y, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:14 (nine years ago) link
I always preferred Ariel when he was making quasi-anonymous car glovebox mixtapes as an outsider solo artist than his more recent stuff. Imago check out 'Worn Copy', I reckon you'd love that one
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:14 (nine years ago) link
was jamming 'tough love' on my drive this morning and i do think it's about even w/'devotion'
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:15 (nine years ago) link
xp to emil.y Yep! That's the quote that put me off Ariel Pink for good and I hope he goes to hell.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:16 (nine years ago) link
AP the guy strikes me as a deeply troubled, hopelessly narcissistic individual
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:17 (nine years ago) link
'The Doldrums' is one of my five favourite records of all time, it pains me he's the way he is now because it makes me averse to listening to him.
― All The Craigers Gonna Craig Craig Craig Craig Craig (Craigo Boingo), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:18 (nine years ago) link
JF seconded, not to mention his music is third-rate lofi psychedelia trash
― indie fuxxor albums i have secretly spotified (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:18 (nine years ago) link
also i think the version of this album to buy is the one w/bonus tracks, all four of them are winners. the album only has one weak link, which is 'say you love me'. the lion king shit at the end bums me out.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:18 (nine years ago) link
there are some duds on the jessie album but it really holds together imo, i remain a big fan
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:18 (nine years ago) link
my only real regret is that they threw strings on "cruel" cuz that beat is so good
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:19 (nine years ago) link
33 THE SOFT PINK TRUTH Why Do the Heathen Rage? [426 points, 16 votes]32 ARIEL PINK Pom Pom [430 points, 15 votes, 1 first place vote]31 JESSIE WARE Tough Love [431 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote]
two in the pink, one in merry old england
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:20 (nine years ago) link
Fuck, I hadn't seen that quote xps. Hardman bullshit narcissism. Yuck
― Ban Kil Moon (imago), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:20 (nine years ago) link
lot of folks seemed to hate "say you love me" off tough love, which i didnt understand, thought it was lovely in spite of the slightly schmaltz adult-contemp vibes
― indie fuxxor albums i have secretly spotified (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:21 (nine years ago) link
ugh, I remembered AP saying nonsense about beta males but forgot he said that.
Jessie Ware tho!
― example (crüt), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:21 (nine years ago) link
― All The Craigers Gonna Craig Craig Craig Craig Craig (Craigo Boingo), Wednesday, January 28, 2015 7:18 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I agree with everything in this post.
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:22 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, Say You Love Me is in the upper third of songs on Tough Love imo. I wish Midnight Caller had been on the album proper.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:22 (nine years ago) link
i didn't hate 'say you love me'. i think she's great on the song, i just think it's really generic and the shit at the end is all wrong.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:23 (nine years ago) link
Tough Love, Kind of...Sometimes...Maybe, Keep On Lying and Champagne Kisses are the keepers on the album for me. I can't really remember any of the other songs apart from Say You Love me which I really disliked. I probably listened to the album about eight times to try and get it into it more but it just wasn't happening. Hopefully I'll go back to it some point and it will just click. I really love Devotion.
― Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:24 (nine years ago) link
it took me a few times but then i "got" it
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:26 (nine years ago) link
"say you love me" was a major grower for me, it kinda ended up being the emotional high point for me on the record
― j. winters (josh), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:27 (nine years ago) link
just checked out 'Say You Love Me' and I'm sure Jessie's a real talent but to me this is the Sound of BBC Love Actually Saturday Kitchen Jools Holland AOR banality that's been shitting up UK music for just too fucking long.
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:28 (nine years ago) link
ariel pink as a person turns me so off that i have 0 desire to engage w/ his music at this point
jessie ware i adore but that album i wasn't super in2
― Jennifer 8.-( (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:29 (nine years ago) link
that's the wrong song to check out, DL
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:29 (nine years ago) link
Today is full of great entries! I personally loved the Ariel Pink, though truthfully this was prior to the context of misogyny... I figured the problematic album lyrics sounded far more deconstructive than celebratory of patriarchal values and masochism etc. But if he's a dick in interviews then it's sort of unforgivable... The art world is still way too beleaguered with pretentious arseholes masquerading as infants terribles, espousing dubious politics under the spurious disclaimer of being whimsically noteworthy. But oh Ariel Pink...such wonderfully grotesque sounds...
Generally of the SPT 'make no concessions' camp myself. A wonderful album and explication of its ethos!
― tangenttangent, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:29 (nine years ago) link
dog latin, try "Keep on Lying" which makes good use of a polka presethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP0YFbnF7Mk
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:32 (nine years ago) link
er, sorry that was just meant to be a link
http://i.imgur.com/In27WzI.jpg
30 FUTURE ISLANDS Singles [432 points, 15 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:32 (nine years ago) link
i exclusively listen to pre-pubescent ariel pink:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SYvSRXVW2o
― gr8080, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:32 (nine years ago) link
Appreciate whoever is updating the Spotify as we go. Made it through about :43 seconds of Ariel Pink. Just awful, and I like Oar.I thought I would like the Barrott more than I did, as I liked everything in the singles poll described as Balearic.
― campreverb, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:32 (nine years ago) link
re: Ariel Pink's asshole bleedover into the music - while there isn't really one particularly objectionable lyrics I can point to in "Black Ballerina", the whole song just comes across as so icky, given his recent interviews. maybe just the creepy way he crams "Condoleezza..." in is enough.
― ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:33 (nine years ago) link
xpost good album
― gr8080, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:33 (nine years ago) link
i am the ghost of spotify present these daysor maybe glenn is. i'm more like marley
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:33 (nine years ago) link
i hate a.p.'s music enough that i've never had to care about what he thinks about anything
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:33 (nine years ago) link
oh cool watch this thread blow up
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:34 (nine years ago) link
Thanks forks!
― campreverb, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:34 (nine years ago) link
http://www.songlyrics.com/ariel-pink/black-ballerina-lyrics/
I don't think this song requires terrible interviews to come across as icky.
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:34 (nine years ago) link
ariel pink is very icky but the music is hit or miss excellent imo
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:35 (nine years ago) link
This Future Islands album is really good. Even though not a single other song was nominated for the tracks list almost every song on there is great.
― Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:35 (nine years ago) link
black ballerina is a good example of all the above pureed
Jessie Ware album is gorgeous. "Say You Love Me" is the best song on it. Anyone who says otherwise is condemned to eternal wrongness.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:36 (nine years ago) link
good album. a big prt of me expects the next one to be even better. Sam T Herring is a legend in my eyes and deserves the highest of praises. I'd like to see FT go to grander heights, maybe become like a sort-of 21st century Moody Blues or do a conceptual prog record or something. His range and expressiveness feels a bit too contained by their current indie-synth style.
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:36 (nine years ago) link
My chair is feeling very creaky atm.
― sock (strychnine), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:36 (nine years ago) link
I'll take all of that you got.
― campreverb, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:36 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, as I meant earlier, AP is right to consider challenging consensus right up to the point where he's being an empathy-bereft asshole & talking stupid macho nonsense about beta males & women as prey. Comes across not as intelligent consideration but deeply stupid posturing. Will have a hard time listening to him now.
― Ban Kil Moon (imago), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:37 (nine years ago) link
forks you the real mvp (of spotify curation)
― indie fuxxor albums i have secretly spotified (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:37 (nine years ago) link
"A Song For Our Grandfathers" a very good song from Singles.
― gr8080, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:37 (nine years ago) link
Just now giving the Mark Barrott. Will have to file this away for when I buy some binoculars and go bird watching.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:37 (nine years ago) link
Just now giving the Mark Barrott a listen.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:38 (nine years ago) link
― campreverb, Wednesday, January 28, 2015 12:36 PM (55 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lmao
― goole, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:38 (nine years ago) link
Also idg ppl saying the Az. Banks album was surprising. It sounds like all her other music? I think it was the last thing I shaved from my ballot for Arca, who I'm guessing isn't going to make it now. :(
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:38 (nine years ago) link
― gr8080, Wednesday, January 28, 2015 1:37 PM (21 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah i love that one. i get why "Seasons" has kinda gone above and beyond the album's rep but any number of songs on the album are just as good.
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:39 (nine years ago) link
or, Kitchen Person otm
a song for our grandfathers is tremendous, love the lyrics
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:40 (nine years ago) link
― Kitchen Person, Wednesday, January 28, 2015 12:35 PM (4 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I can't be the only one who went the whole year without knowing that people liked anything other than Seasons. Was surprised to see the album so high on so many lists...still need to check it out.
― Indexed, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:40 (nine years ago) link
What was surprising to me wasn't the album itself, it's that I hated/didn't care about all of AB's other music but did like BWET. I only listened once so I don't know why.
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:41 (nine years ago) link
Pretty sure Arca will place, we're in the underwhelming-but-with-large-audience bit of the list now.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:41 (nine years ago) link
― call all destroyer
Yes! Beautiful song.
― Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:41 (nine years ago) link
I wanted to love the Babyface/Toni album but I really hate the production on that album. The sound of the record gives them none of the nuance the deserve.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:43 (nine years ago) link
one flight later and catching up in a different city
azealia banks - my last vote; if i was making my ballot today theo parrish would kick her out. i appreciated that, after all the antics and such, she made an album that was so idiosyncratically her, and also a better version of her than anything she'd previously done. there's a nonchalance to this album that by rights shouldn't exist - grabbing all these fun housey/garagey beats and doing her thing pretty casually over them. oddly for someone with so much, er, personality online, she takes back seat to a lot of the beats, though her voice as pure instrument is pretty cool. "desperado" and "heavy metal and reflective" and "miss amor" are highlights
toni braxton & babyface - YASSSSSS one of my favourite albums of the year. "i wish" as previously mentioned is a real highlight, "roller coaster" has such a gorgeous melody, "heart attack" really works as the token disco track...production and vocals so rich and generous, i feel like the wizened middle-aged divorce album is a very under-represented thing
andy stott - i was besotted with his last album but this never made it beyond pleasant background music for me
the soft pink truth - i do not know this album
ariel pink - fuck are you thinking of voting for this cunt? i find nothing to praise about his contrarianism, i couldn't give a shit how playful or wacky you think he's boring and his music is so terrible
jessie ware - of the two "sophomore slump albums by fêted female singers to emerge from the british dance scene" i found this really was a disappointment, compared to katy b's which was merely a botch job of the sequencing etc. "tough love", "kind of..." and "champagne kisses" are the keepers, peak jessie ware, but the rest of it sags in between those highs - little outright terrible (except "say you love me" obv, what a hideous song) but a lot that's just adequate. playing it back to back with devotion does it no favours at all
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:43 (nine years ago) link
I think I like Tough Love more than Devotion, honestly.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:45 (nine years ago) link
― The Reverend, Wednesday, January 28, 2015 1:43 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
feeling this after about three tracks, excellent tunes but it's a drag sonically
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:45 (nine years ago) link
I think I might too sometimes. xp
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:46 (nine years ago) link
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, January 28, 2015 10:45 AM Bookmark
I feel like "Where Did We Go Wrong?" is the one track they manage to get this right.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:48 (nine years ago) link
i'd be genuinely interested in your thoughts on the soft pink truth album, lex.
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:48 (nine years ago) link
this Dean Blunt guy spends a lot of time on his song titles huh?
― campreverb, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:48 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, I think the SPT album is something lex might not ultimately like, but will give a lot to chew on.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:48 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/yUIO31S.jpg
29 POPCAAN Where We Come From [435 points, 14 votes, 2 first place votes]
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:50 (nine years ago) link
i like this guy ^
― Mordy, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:51 (nine years ago) link
'The System' was my #2 track of the whole year, but nothing else from the album really grabbed and shook me like that one.
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:51 (nine years ago) link
everything is mice
― rob, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:51 (nine years ago) link
loved the singles from this, need to dig in to the rest
― gr8080, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:51 (nine years ago) link
dog latin, did you try "Evil"?
― rob, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:53 (nine years ago) link
i will now
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:53 (nine years ago) link
― The Reverend, Wednesday, January 28, 2015 1:48 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
personally i like that the album is almost more pillowy and upscale than old school Babyface, to like a Bacharach degree. but yeah this song definitely cuts through the album and does more with less.
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:54 (nine years ago) link
Popcaan! My #1 vote... <3 ILM so much right now.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:54 (nine years ago) link
Stumbled across Everything is Nice on the tracks poll and thought it was pretty amazing. Glad of the reminder to revisit now!
― tangenttangent, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:54 (nine years ago) link
I have really no idea what rev dislikes about the toni/babyface production - it's one of the greatest appeals about it to me. Just really creamy and lush. I don't hear how it's any different to prime toni/babyface material either.
Ughhhhh future islands.
Popcaan album was alright but smh at an album entirely devoid of bangers being the crossover; I didn't go back to it much bc I preferredto be ddancing to j capri or vybz kartel or tifa, dancehall-wise
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:58 (nine years ago) link
― The Reverend
we agree on one point, the most important one.
what i love abt tough love is how she's just so confident on this vocally. she doesn't make a single wrong move imo.
i just bought tickets to her show in L.A. too. 8)
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:58 (nine years ago) link
i want to listen to the babyface/braxton album based on the cover alone
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:59 (nine years ago) link
ariel pink - fuck are you thinking of voting for this cunt?
generally if I find music at all interesting I'm willing to ignore dumb or ignorant shit the artist says outside their music. (see also: AZB, who I voted for, unlike AP.) this is partially based on the fact that if I were intereviewed on a quasi-regular basis or had a popular twitter acct I would probably eventually say something dumb because I'm an idiot. things they've done - when that arises - a trickier matter.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:59 (nine years ago) link
Love, Marriage & Divorce has possibly my favorite cover art of the year, definitely top 3
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:00 (nine years ago) link
I will never ever understand or support the UK notion that it's OK to use "c-nt" as an insult
it's really not.
― WRINKLEPAWSOME (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:01 (nine years ago) link
lol tell that to Azealia
― Ban Kil Moon (imago), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:02 (nine years ago) link
I'm a bad bitch, I'm a cunt
Time to get on another plane!
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:03 (nine years ago) link
Geography, it's a killer. It wasn't too long ago we learned that "spaz" is a terrible word over there.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:04 (nine years ago) link
sp-z, Johnny Fever. Be sensitive.
― how's life, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:05 (nine years ago) link
xp "One More Time" is Ariel Pink's best song and possibly was also his first song. Guess it was all downhill from age 12. I wonder if he still hated women back in 1987.
― billstevejim, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:07 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/pBwrQ6L.jpg
28 DJ QUIK The Midnight Life [455 points, 18 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:10 (nine years ago) link
woah did not expect to see this
― gr8080, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:11 (nine years ago) link
There's no depth to it, it's all surface. Everything is at 10 most of the record. It's so LOUD in a way that doesn't suit the material and is really wearying to me.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:13 (nine years ago) link
Including "I Wish"?
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:13 (nine years ago) link
xxxpsdisablist slurs should be beyond the pale everywhere imo, usual suspect wading in ...yawn
― xelab, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:14 (nine years ago) link
I feel like a lot of records by people I fundamentally like but couldn't find a way into that particular record are placing. Quik/Popcaan/Toni & Babyface...
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:14 (nine years ago) link
The Midnight Life was not quite as good or as ILX-beloved as Quik's last two albums, but Blaqkout was #6 in the ILM poll and The Book of David was #7, so i'm glad we still got a good voter turnout for him.
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:16 (nine years ago) link
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Wednesday, January 28, 2015 11:13 AM Bookmark
Yup. It needs some headroom to it instead the cranked-up midrange it has.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:16 (nine years ago) link
Two minutes in and it's already palpable that DJ Quik is a legitimate monster.
― tangenttangent, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:16 (nine years ago) link
Popcaan - at first I was mildly disappointed that it wasn't more packed with bangers but it wormed its way in incredibly quickly. On the other thread I called him the dancehall Future and I sort of stand by that, he's got the whole robo-emo space candyfloss thing going on but with an actual likable persona. 'The System' and 'Evil' are total bangers but it hit me emotionally in ways I didn't expect - I find something about the whole sound of songs like 'Number One Freak' and 'Ghetto (Tired of Crying)' just deeply moving, and the title track makes my heart soar every time I hear it. Kudos to whoever else voted it number one.
I was all set to make this joke and everything, dammit.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:17 (nine years ago) link
Ariel Pink is basically trolling the world at this point. I still like pom pom though.
This Future Islands album is really good. Even though not a single other song was nominated for the tracks list almost every song on there is great.ha! couldn't disagree with this more. Singles vying with that terrible Grouper record for most annoying thing I listened to this year. Shame, as I think the singer's got a really interesting voice. He needs a decent band to front.
xposts - DJ Quik still in my 'to play' pile
― Jeff W, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:17 (nine years ago) link
"A banjo".
voted for Quik, Popcaan, Azealia; this is my day apparently.
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:18 (nine years ago) link
DJ Quik still in my 'to play' pile
me too, looking forward to it
― WRINKLEPAWSOME (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:18 (nine years ago) link
lol sorry Matt (I was the other #1 vote for Popcaan if that helps)
― rob, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:18 (nine years ago) link
the title track makes my heart soar every time I hear it
yes! you need the whole album to establish context, but the title track is my favorite
― rob, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:20 (nine years ago) link
Popcaan album was alright but smh at an album entirely devoid of bangers being the crossover
There was a time when you'd have blown a gasket with rage at anyone making this argument about an R&B album.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:21 (nine years ago) link
why did popcaan crossover to hipster audiences? is there an answer besides "new PR company"
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:21 (nine years ago) link
quik album has like 5 or 6 incredible songs, but some of the other ones are outright bad instead of merely listenable
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:22 (nine years ago) link
Quite a few asshole musicians in this run, it seems. What is Quik's monster deal?
― Ban Kil Moon (imago), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:23 (nine years ago) link
...And if you keep annoyin meI'ma pump your pussy full of lead and poison both your ovaries
Some introduction...
― tangenttangent, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:24 (nine years ago) link
xpthe no-bangers argument is also puzzling in that WWCF is so clearly part of the reggae tradition, lyrically and thematically
― rob, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:24 (nine years ago) link
I'd be lying if I said I was a fan of today's batch so far
― Dinsdale, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:25 (nine years ago) link
"that n****rs crazy" "puffin the dragon" "pet semetary" "life jacket" "bacon's groove" "why'd you have to lie" & "fuck all night" stand up with most of his last album imo, but the real hard stuff is bad imo
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:26 (nine years ago) link
jesus fkn christ xps
― Ban Kil Moon (imago), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:26 (nine years ago) link
anyone gonna defend that
― Ban Kil Moon (imago), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:29 (nine years ago) link
Quil good not great, which the last album waa.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:30 (nine years ago) link
Some good stuff on The Midnight Life but it's a big step down from his previous two albums which really deserved their top 10 placings on here.
― Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:31 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/g3z1SMG.jpg
27 GAZELLE TWIN Unflesh [469 points, 19 votes, 2 first place votes]
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:32 (nine years ago) link
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:33 (nine years ago) link
Gazelle Twin album rules super hard, strong shades of Pankow all over it.
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:34 (nine years ago) link
xps imago
I guess not. Praying for some Menace Ruine or something to blast away the lingering rape apologism going on with some of today's artists...
Oh and with that...this will do!
― tangenttangent, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:34 (nine years ago) link
http://www.gazillionmovies.com/Actor/J/Jo/Pictures/john-pankow.jpg
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:34 (nine years ago) link
Album cover by work experience design student
― xelab, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:35 (nine years ago) link
this is good stuff. didn't expect it to be so high up.
― cajunsunday, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:35 (nine years ago) link
Pankow huh? will listen.
― WRINKLEPAWSOME (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:35 (nine years ago) link
dj quik is definitely threatening to shoot a woman in her vagina and then poison it
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:36 (nine years ago) link
ILM has a somewhat lengthy fascination with Gazelle Twin. I liked the earlier stuff, but I couldn't get into this one. Anyway, not surprised at all that it's here.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:36 (nine years ago) link
someone must stop this monster
Yes! My #24! We can all ignore DJ Quip and his terrible lyrics - here's something fairly grand - hellish but in all the right ways
― Ban Kil Moon (imago), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:37 (nine years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, January 28, 2015 2:36 PM (18 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Ira from "Mad About You"? i dunno, i always liked him
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:37 (nine years ago) link
Given how formative I suspect body horror is for many (most?) of us, its surprising there haven't been more concept albums.
The cover's a straightforward Bacon rip, but fits the material
― The inscrutable savantism of (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:38 (nine years ago) link
Gazelle Twin is more abstract than Pankow but I get a similar vibe from the sound palette/arrangement
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:40 (nine years ago) link
love this album! great creepy videos too:
Anti BodyExorciseBelly Of The BeastGuts
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:41 (nine years ago) link
cover connection: Gazelle Twin and Ghostface, conveniently side by side in my Spotify saved albums folder
― Jeff W, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:41 (nine years ago) link
imago metal bands lyrics are just as bad and I dont see anyone demanding metallers to defend it.They just handwave away the cop out of not listening to lyrics so why should rap get picked on?
― sock (strychnine), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:42 (nine years ago) link
from the video I felt like I was watching some Goldsmiths art student project, it left me completely cold
― xelab, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:42 (nine years ago) link
hey i remember Pankow
― gr8080, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:43 (nine years ago) link
someone tell me if i would like this
Have you ever looked at a mirror in disgust/revulsion?
― The inscrutable savantism of (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:44 (nine years ago) link
Gazelle Twin was one of those albums I listened to once and meant to go back to before voting but ran out of time to do so. I liked it but definitely need to spend way more time with it to make more sense of it.
― Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:45 (nine years ago) link
Need to check that GT out, didn't get around to it last year. I've definitely felt unmoved by little bits I've heard in the past, but the reaction to this has piqued my interest. Also would fit nicely with my mini '2014 albums about bodies' list.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:45 (nine years ago) link
i wasn't much of a fan before this record tbh, this one is a bit more focussed i think
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:49 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/qYXjwRf.jpg
26 SWANS To Be Kind [481 points, 16 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:50 (nine years ago) link
I liked bits of the Gazelle Twin record but it's industrial-lite pop didn't really stick with me beyond a couple of songs. It slips into trip-hoppiness on occasion in a way that just didn't really grab me. Would like to how they work live, I can imagine that might get rid of my reservations about the limpness.
Listening to this and Pharmakon a lot around the same time probably entrenched those feelings tbh, the latter being way more satisfying (not that they're necessarily trying to do the same thing).
― All The Craigers Gonna Craig Craig Craig Craig Craig (Craigo Boingo), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:51 (nine years ago) link
Overall vibe of Unflesh to me is like a version of Fever Ray more indebted to 80s industrial dance music
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:51 (nine years ago) link
liked this album. didn't vote for it.
― gr8080, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:52 (nine years ago) link
huh was expecting this to be higher based on the last couple ones placing top 10 or w/e. still haven't heard it though
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:52 (nine years ago) link
it's not as good imo
― WRINKLEPAWSOME (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:53 (nine years ago) link
Quik was my third vote to place (and likely the last) after Azaelia and Lana
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:53 (nine years ago) link
Swans I bought but was bored by
adam summed it up well, I think:
swans tonight an endless dull churn, felt kinda bad for gira et al as they seemed to be working really hard to achieve very little. tho honestly that's basically how i feel about post-reformation swans on record too.
― adam, Friday, December 12, 2014 8:49 PM
― WRINKLEPAWSOME (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:54 (nine years ago) link
a bit more purposeful than the nearly-as-good Young MArco album IMO
― Ratt in Mi Kitchen (Neil S), Wednesday, January 28, 2015 9:52 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
agree that it does a lot of what the young marco album did but with more purpose
― lex pretend, Wednesday, January 28, 2015 9:57 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i actually disagree with this, i don't think the mark barrott and young marco albums are all that comparable. mark barrott is very balearic in that it is quilted from several balearic touchstones, but only in a few of it's best moments becomes more than pastiche. i love it and voted for it, but besides "deep water" i don't think it becomes all that much more than the sum of it's really awesome parts. the young marco is less immediate, but despite being a humble little album, it is really not quite like much else i've heard. marco carved out his own sound using a relatively simple palette of synth and drum machines and gets tagged balearic because of the feeling he inhabits rather than the usual earmarks that code as balearic. young marco is more larry heard's 'sceneries not songs' whereas mark barrott is more wally badarou's 'echoes.' i also find the construction of marco's tracks, with elements shifting and gradually piling on, is itself more 'purposeful' than the lazily (pleasurably) drifting mark barrott, but i'm not sure if that's what lex and neil s. meant by purposeful.
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:55 (nine years ago) link
i think one new swans was fine, three is turning out to be way too many
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:55 (nine years ago) link
"to be kind" was kind of my 2014 object lesson for "try before you buy"
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:55 (nine years ago) link
[zappa-talent]+[ween-cargo shorts]+[tenacious D X cassette tapes]=ariel pink
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:57 (nine years ago) link
she's a big fan of stuff like john foxx too, i wouldn't say that 'industrial pop' is too far wide of the mark
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:57 (nine years ago) link
So, given Gira was praising The Necks in many interviews leading up to To Be Kind, what the most The Necks like entry here?
(mind, I haven't followed Swans much this century - the 82-96 era churned my emotions up enough, I think)
― The inscrutable savantism of (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:57 (nine years ago) link
i liked this swans album, it was actually more entertaining than the previous two imo - both funnier and more unnerving
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:58 (nine years ago) link
I voted for Swans just so I could say something I voted for has placed.
― Dinsdale, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:59 (nine years ago) link
I liked the slight change in direction on this Swans album, but it does go on too long. I still voted for it though.
― silverfish, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:59 (nine years ago) link
strychnine you're a fucking moron, many xps
― Ban Kil Moon (imago), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:03 (nine years ago) link
J0rdan too
imago I'm fairly certain at least 23 other posters have held that dn of yours before you did
― 龜, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:04 (nine years ago) link
still getting my head round gazelle twin, but it's good stuff.
swans album is fantastic, surprisingly funky for them, but it was never going to be able to beat The Seer for me. not that i'm complaining.
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:05 (nine years ago) link
Lol metalNo more please
― sock (strychnine), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:05 (nine years ago) link
where's the metal
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:06 (nine years ago) link
fine
― DJ Quit (imago), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:06 (nine years ago) link
xxxxpsSanpaku, I would recommend The WHO Trio - The Who Zoo for someone who likes Necks type action. Although admittedly it is slightly more difficult listening, it has made up for the lack of a new Necks release for me. They are an awesome trio.
― xelab, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:07 (nine years ago) link
Couldn't get into The Seer, but loved To Be Kind - have spent several Sunday afternoons getting properly stuck into it. That said, the last two tracks on CD2 are two tracks too many.
― mike t-diva, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:09 (nine years ago) link
imago http://i.imgur.com/cPsCwxX.png
― gr8080, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:10 (nine years ago) link
I liked the shambling one about a little bit of God on one's hands very much, not braved the entirety
― DJ Quit (imago), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:10 (nine years ago) link
Oh, and add me to the "didn't rate Born To Die, pleasantly surprised by Ultraviolence" list.
― mike t-diva, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:11 (nine years ago) link
xpost to mike t-diva, yea the album basically climaxes with "oxygen" and then sorta peters out, closing title track is particularly meandering and doesn't add much
― indie fuxxor albums i have secretly spotified (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:12 (nine years ago) link
i still want someone to photoshop frank sobotka on this swans cover:
http://i.imgur.com/Ildk6Gg.png
― gr8080, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:14 (nine years ago) link
Gazelle Twin is way too low
― example (crüt), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:16 (nine years ago) link
All 19 of us who heard it voted.
― The inscrutable savantism of (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:20 (nine years ago) link
If only all 19 of you went on to start ILM threads too
― 龜, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:22 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/1cqzge3.jpg
25 SCOTT WALKER & SUNN 0))) Soused [482 points, 18 votes, 1 first place vote]
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:24 (nine years ago) link
ha, guess we're in the spooky old man music stretch here
― gr8080, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:25 (nine years ago) link
someone asked me today what i'd think about a scott walker POTUS run and i was briefly very confused
― Mordy, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:26 (nine years ago) link
:) liked what I have heard of this
― DJ Quit (imago), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:26 (nine years ago) link
Probably my biggest disappointment of the year. I was hyped for it, but it just didn't click. I think the mix was off.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:26 (nine years ago) link
nice juxtaposition!
I have hated everything I've ever heard by Scott Walker, except for this album, which I like quite a lot
― WRINKLEPAWSOME (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:27 (nine years ago) link
I preferred all the minor side projects from various Sunn members than this.
― xelab, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:29 (nine years ago) link
This initially disappointed me. I've come to enjoy it quite a bit. Sure, it's a step down from Bish Bosch, but that is one of the best albums ever made.
― silverfish, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:29 (nine years ago) link
I dig it.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:30 (nine years ago) link
Kinda wish it and the Swans record coulda swapped lengths
― gr8080, Wednesday, January 28, 2015 3:25 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this seems to happen around this time every year
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:30 (nine years ago) link
haha totally OTM xp
― WRINKLEPAWSOME (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:31 (nine years ago) link
leonard cohen must be coming up
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:31 (nine years ago) link
My #23 and my first to poll. Pretty good, but expectations were pretty ridic. Surprised it's this high but I guess it was always gonna get widely checked out and there wasn't much wrong with it. Those opening riffs also start things w/ a good lol.
― All The Craigers Gonna Craig Craig Craig Craig Craig (Craigo Boingo), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:32 (nine years ago) link
lots of xps: the reason Nicki Minaj or Azealia Banks using "cunt" was such a big deal is because the word is so generally verboten in the US. It's just not something you hear often so it's kind of shocking when it is used. It's very different than Brits being all I met my old cunt down at the pub or whatever.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:34 (nine years ago) link
i don't know that i listened to the new alb but i saw swans this summer for the second time in 2 years and it was way worse than the first. the first time was really dynamic, with extended quiet parts that were insanely beautiful, but this time was just brutally loud and relentless. and like, 2.5 hours long. also the guy who plays that electric lapsteel thing was way too loud in the mix, like overpowering everything else in the mix at its peak, but whenever the sound guy would try and turn him down gira would scream at him to leave the levels as they were. such an asshole. changed my impression of him from obdurate musical genius to just cranky deaf asshole
― flopson, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:35 (nine years ago) link
Like if a dude in the US says cunt a lot there's a 100% chance they're a hardcore misogynist.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:35 (nine years ago) link
true
― flopson, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:36 (nine years ago) link
i don't think i even knew the word "cunt" till i started reading ILX
― example (crüt), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:36 (nine years ago) link
My old mother never says the c-word out loud, she fucking S-P-E-L-L-S it, I'm all like 'Ma, you just made it last 4 times as long'.
― All The Craigers Gonna Craig Craig Craig Craig Craig (Craigo Boingo), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:37 (nine years ago) link
*british accent* why charles i'm feeling rather cunty this morning
― flopson, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:38 (nine years ago) link
for queen and cunty
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:39 (nine years ago) link
oh, I guess ballroom types are the exception
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:40 (nine years ago) link
could we just get back to talking about scott walker & cunnt ((())) plz
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:40 (nine years ago) link
see you next tuesday
― gr8080, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:41 (nine years ago) link
Last time I saw someone get called the c-word IRL, blows were exchanged, the cops came, everything.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:41 (nine years ago) link
Cuntry is very under-represented on this poll so far
― Stig of the sanctimonious uncontextualized linkdump (Michael B), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:42 (nine years ago) link
I met my old cunt down at the pub or whatever.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, January 28, 2015 3:34 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark
Irl lol btw
― 龜, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:42 (nine years ago) link
Difficult Listening For Old Men
― billstevejim, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:42 (nine years ago) link
quoting mike skinner there
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:43 (nine years ago) link
got your girl in the cunt and she choosay
― example (crüt), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:43 (nine years ago) link
del boy fell through the cunt, top laugh that
― goole, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:43 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/5cYh1KS.jpg
24 K. MICHELLE Anybody Wanna Buy a Heart? [486 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote]
(If I were to re-vote, this would be my #1. As it was, it was my #3.)
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:44 (nine years ago) link
Thank heck for that
― All The Craigers Gonna Craig Craig Craig Craig Craig (Craigo Boingo), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:44 (nine years ago) link
whoop whoop
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:44 (nine years ago) link
whooooooooo!
― indie fuxxor albums i have secretly spotified (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:45 (nine years ago) link
WOOO
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:45 (nine years ago) link
who????
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:46 (nine years ago) link
j/k i do like this album
I didn't think there was a standout track on this but it's really solid front to back yeah
― 龜, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:47 (nine years ago) link
wasn't 100% on this but i thought 'going under' was a fantastic song
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:48 (nine years ago) link
Didn't vote for it, but this is a very good album. "How Do You Know" was my favorite track. Love the cover art too.
― Indexed, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:48 (nine years ago) link
"Drake Would Love Me," y'all.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:48 (nine years ago) link
ILX would love me
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:50 (nine years ago) link
a totally fucking great album
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:50 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0T00XcN0N0
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:51 (nine years ago) link
HATED Scott Walker, until I heard Bish Bosch, which I ADORED. Therefore was expecting to ADORE Soused, but didn't particularly engage with it all.
― mike t-diva, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:53 (nine years ago) link
...AT all, duh.
― mike t-diva, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:54 (nine years ago) link
I'm gonna give K. Michelle a whirl based on this response (seriously)
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:56 (nine years ago) link
As a listener who typically only digs into lyrics when they're really really good, I'm absolutely smitten with this album lyrically.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:57 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/GamJ0dw.jpg
23 RICHARD DAWSON Nothing Important [497 points, 15 votes, 2 first place votes]
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:03 (nine years ago) link
my #1 and contender for all-time great status
listentothe title track
― DJ Quit (imago), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:05 (nine years ago) link
aptly titled
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:06 (nine years ago) link
& read its lyrics
― DJ Quit (imago), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:07 (nine years ago) link
seriously, read the lyrics to this album's longer tracks, especially the title track. read the lyrics while listening to the music. imagine a small, impossibly mice man howling them onstage accompanied only by a small, amplified nylon guitar.
― DJ Quit (imago), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:09 (nine years ago) link
Dawson <3 <3 <3
― emil.y, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:09 (nine years ago) link
Didn't hear this till the tracks poll came out, good stuff
― Simon H., Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:10 (nine years ago) link
prefer the lyrics to the album's shorter tracks tbh
― wins, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:10 (nine years ago) link
apt cliche: 'practically a religious experience'
― DJ Quit (imago), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:11 (nine years ago) link
#263 on PnJ. I see Whiney voted for it.
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:14 (nine years ago) link
Good stuff, voted for this.
― so not gonna häpna (seandalai), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:15 (nine years ago) link
Richard Dawson is terrible and unlistenable as far as I'm concerned.
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:16 (nine years ago) link
once and only once i can honestly say lj otm assuming mice means nice
― groundless round (La Lechera), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:18 (nine years ago) link
I like macrocosm type writing and film-making, but not in music. I will keep my criticism short before I dig myself into a hole here, cos I really like imago!
― xelab, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:20 (nine years ago) link
I had Dawson at #5. Was only able to listen to it via Spotify so no listening on the commute which would probably have pushed it higher.
― All The Craigers Gonna Craig Craig Craig Craig Craig (Craigo Boingo), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:20 (nine years ago) link
Couldn't get through this :|
― monster_xero, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:21 (nine years ago) link
the word 'cunt'richard dawson
so proud to be british rn lol
― DJ Quit (imago), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:22 (nine years ago) link
I couldn't connect with Richard Dawson in any way, either, and I was unable to listen to any whole Swans song, but I voted for Gazelle Twin, Scott Walker and K. Michelle, so this all seems fine. And pleasantly incoherent!
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:23 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/eb1QW10.jpg
22 SHABAZZ PALACES Lese Majesty [536 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote]
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:24 (nine years ago) link
I can see why the Richard Dawson record is niche, but by jove, if you like it you're probably going to love the chuff out of it.
― All The Craigers Gonna Craig Craig Craig Craig Craig (Craigo Boingo), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:24 (nine years ago) link
less of the c word m8
― wins, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:25 (nine years ago) link
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:27 (nine years ago) link
think it's time I come to terms with the fact that Menace Ruine is not gonna show up
― Dinsdale, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:27 (nine years ago) link
Oh Fuck I meant to say microcosm above
― xelab, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:29 (nine years ago) link
I like the "chuff" in Brit vernacular much better than the other c-word.
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:30 (nine years ago) link
np xelab - compliment returned!
i'll go insane for Shabazz Palaces right
― DJ Quit (imago), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:31 (nine years ago) link
THE STREETS IS UNDEFEATED
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:31 (nine years ago) link
Is "Under Cover of Official Right" not gonna place?
― monster_xero, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:31 (nine years ago) link
Thank God
Though I am thinking that we will not see Neneh Cherry or Orlando Julius now :-(
― YES TYPE all your albums ballot out and post them here (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:34 (nine years ago) link
Probably no Meshell Ndegeocello nor Reagenz
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:36 (nine years ago) link
either.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:37 (nine years ago) link
Nor Hollie Cook. :(
or chronixx
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:38 (nine years ago) link
The first time I heard the Richard Dawson title track, I thought it was unlistenable garbage. Voted this album in my Top 10. Funny how that happens.
― mike t-diva, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:39 (nine years ago) link
really dig the atmosphere of this album, had to cut it from my ballot though
― example (crüt), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:39 (nine years ago) link
I feel bad for not voting for Meshell or Neneh even tho I listened to both quite a bit.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:41 (nine years ago) link
I think we will see Neneh but not Meshell.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:41 (nine years ago) link
wish Dawson hadn't bitten quite so much of the "Lean On Me" melody for the title track, really like the album though
Shabazz Palaces rules, obv
― WRINKLEPAWSOME (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:41 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/Qw80FPg.jpg
21 NENEH CHERRY Blank Project [545 points, 20 votes, 1 first place vote]
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:42 (nine years ago) link
But on a positive note, I'm loving the Gazelle Twin tracks on Youtube, and I just ordered the album from Amazon. This kind of stuff is often the verge of becoming too gloomy and abrasive for me, but thankfully it stays on the good side just by an inch. Love her beat programming, so hard-hitting.
(xxxpost)
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:42 (nine years ago) link
haha lol
amazing album obv
― Tim F, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:43 (nine years ago) link
Yay, thank god for Cherry! Her comeback has been one of my favourite things in music during the last couple of years.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:43 (nine years ago) link
catching up from city number three
dj quik - "life jacket" and "that getter" stood out to me but overall it felt less like a disappointment than a minor work that came and went rather than something that left its mark on your listening like his previous two
gazelle twin - yesssss, i voted for this. huge volte-face from her "thread of knife-like music" debut - have never heard any music that captures body horror so effectively, and i appreciate the way it feels like a horror film. sounds better the louder it is. she's a super-interesting person too.
[run of Difficult Old Man Music; if i was slouching on the sofa at home alone i might give any of this a go but i'm in a hotel room in france with a shitload of work to prepare so i'll just skip to the bit where i go "hmm i admire it" then never ever listen to it again]
K. MICHELLE - YASSSS BISH YASSSSSSSSSSSS my #1 my #1 she is the realest and the rawest
"judge me" - bravura opener that makes me realise i want to hear her do a bond theme at some point in her career"build a man" - how to reconcile the depth of your feelings with the shittiness of men pt 1: frankenstein fantasies"drake would love me" - how to reconcile the depth of your feelings with the shittiness of men pt 2: fan fiction, and musing on what exactly we use pop stars and celebrities for (see also ne-yo's "single")"god i get it" - how to reconcile the depth of your feelings with the shittiness of men pt 3: resignation, acceptance. "god i get it / i'm a mess and i admit it"
why did shabazz palaces call their album by a french phrase but not spell it the french way? lèse-majesté. their first album was too awkward and unlovable for me
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:44 (nine years ago) link
ha i knew neneh would show up despite the handwringing. i never really expected meshell to but i'm slightly gutted about mirel wagner. anyway neneh's album is good, i was very impressed on release, but it completely fell out of regular listening and i was never motivated to get it back in there
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:45 (nine years ago) link
why did shabazz palaces call their album by a french phrase but not spell it the french way?
because
http://31.media.tumblr.com/db480ce9173e2053bb641b7f9c9051ee/tumblr_n949eloIYn1r4h022o1_500.jpg
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:47 (nine years ago) link
This album has a really unique feel, IMO... It doesn't sound like anything's that's hip these days (AFAIK), but neither does it sound like any of her older records (which did sometimes have a bit too much of following-the-latest-trend quality). It's like she re-emerged as a whole new artist.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:47 (nine years ago) link
― The Reverend, Wednesday, January 28, 2015 7:13 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i'm relistening now and i genuinely can't hear this? it doesn't strike me as unusually loud, i can hear depth...
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:47 (nine years ago) link
40 LANA DEL REY Ultraviolence [390 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote]TIE-38 ANGEL OLSEN Burn Your Fire for No Witness [390 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote]TIE-38 MARK BARROTT Sketches From an Island [390 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote]37 SPOON They Want My Soul [400 points, 11 votes]36 AZEALIA BANKS Broke With Expensive Taste [408 points, 16 votes, 1 first place vote]35 TONI BRAXTON & BABYFACE Love, Marriage & Divorce [414 points, 14 votes]34 ANDY STOTT Faith in Strangers [424 points, 14 votes]33 THE SOFT PINK TRUTH Why Do the Heathen Rage? [426 points, 16 votes]32 ARIEL PINK Pom Pom [430 points, 15 votes, 1 first place vote]31 JESSIE WARE Tough Love [431 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote]30 FUTURE ISLANDS Singles [432 points, 15 votes]29 POPCAAN Where We Come From [435 points, 14 votes, 2 first place votes]28 DJ QUIK The Midnight Life [455 points, 18 votes]27 GAZELLE TWIN Unflesh [469 points, 19 votes, 2 first place votes]26 SWANS To Be Kind [481 points, 16 votes]25 SCOTT WALKER & SUNN 0))) Soused [482 points, 18 votes, 1 first place vote]24 K. MICHELLE Anybody Wanna Buy a Heart? [486 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote]23 RICHARD DAWSON Nothing Important [497 points, 15 votes, 2 first place votes]22 SHABAZZ PALACES Lese Majesty [536 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote]21 NENEH CHERRY Blank Project [545 points, 20 votes, 1 first place vote]
Commence with top 20 predictions of course.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:48 (nine years ago) link
I suppose it would be nice for there to be more tunes (not just on the TB&B album but generally) that sound as infinity-swimming-pools luxuriant as Babyface's absolute best productions of the 90s ("You're Making Me High", "Diggin' On You" etc.) but for me that's less a problem with L,M&D and more a Santa's Wish List item for music in general.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:50 (nine years ago) link
i think only war on drugs is left over in terms of "indie albums bound to inspire ilxrage" that will most likely place in the top 20
― indie fuxxor albums i have secretly spotified (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:50 (nine years ago) link
interesting that nobody voted Swans #1
― WRINKLEPAWSOME (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:51 (nine years ago) link
RTJ2! xp
― DJ Quit (imago), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:52 (nine years ago) link
i still have no idea why LJ thinks RTJ2 will be controversial
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:53 (nine years ago) link
as someone who doesn't like it at all it's far from an album i'd get all UGH GTFO about
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:54 (nine years ago) link
The one thing I regret about skipping the Pitchfork Fest was missing Neneh Cherry. Did anyone see her show? I just finished Viv Albertine's memoir, and learned that 15 year-old Neneh toured with The Slits near the end of their run, contributing vocals.
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:55 (nine years ago) link
ha, fine
Poll took a massive turn for the awesome, will give K Michelle, Shabazz Palaces and Neneh Cherry thorough listens all :)
― DJ Quit (imago), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:56 (nine years ago) link
I think you will like the Neneh Cherry imago.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:57 (nine years ago) link
15 year-old Neneh toured with The Slits near the end of their run, contributing vocals.
That's awesome.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:58 (nine years ago) link
Thats probably what led to her being on the second New Age Steppers album
― YES TYPE all your albums ballot out and post them here (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:58 (nine years ago) link
xps to lex yeah most folks on here i've seen who haven't liked RTJ2 are more like "eh, it's not my thing but whatever," than "ew what is this corny fuxxor indie-rap shit"
― indie fuxxor albums i have secretly spotified (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:59 (nine years ago) link
Except for the Raccoon, but he's gone.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 21:59 (nine years ago) link
Cheers Tim. Today has been really good imo aside from discovering what dicks Ariel Pink and DJ Quik are - so much to listen to!
― DJ Quit (imago), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:00 (nine years ago) link
run the jewels, D'angelo, taylor, FKA Twigs, Tinashe, charli xcx, caribou, owen pallett, rich gang, war on drugs, aphex, against me, st vincent, nicki minaj, parquet courts, YGThat's 16. Anybody think any of those don't make it?
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:01 (nine years ago) link
the thing with RTJ2 is that while it clearly is the corny indie fuxxor rap album of choice it's not just that and its fanbase is obviously not limited to that so i just chalk it up to dislike of el-p's awkward bashy production and move on
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:01 (nine years ago) link
FYI Neneh is on (I think) all of the Rip Rig & Panic albums as well
― WRINKLEPAWSOME (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:02 (nine years ago) link
miranda lambert will make it, probably the juan maclean too?
sigh, just realised mariah probably missed out. and angaleena presley, unless ilm's pistol annies loyalty is stronger than i realise
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:03 (nine years ago) link
I mean just check this shit out if you've never heard RR&P
https://www.youtu.be.com/watch?v=5S_aOF_1Q0Y
(Neneh on vocals)
― WRINKLEPAWSOME (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:03 (nine years ago) link
Yep, I heart RR&P
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:04 (nine years ago) link
I don't see Parquet Courts making it and definitely not Nicki Minaj.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:04 (nine years ago) link
I can't imagine the Parquet Courts album placing, even the people who like them were cool about that record
― WRINKLEPAWSOME (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:04 (nine years ago) link
forks most of those definitely make it, i have some final (if on life support) hope that one of the two stellar vince staples projects makes it in - as well as one of the two gangsta boo tapes
― indie fuxxor albums i have secretly spotified (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:04 (nine years ago) link
forks: todd terjeble, grouper
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:05 (nine years ago) link
nicki might not, i feel like i enjoyed pinkprint a lot more than most of the people discussing and i didn't even vote for it
― indie fuxxor albums i have secretly spotified (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:06 (nine years ago) link
*discussing it
royksopp & robyn maybe
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:06 (nine years ago) link
Grouper OTM
― WRINKLEPAWSOME (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:07 (nine years ago) link
Neneh was my #2, and it was a late addition. I def felt when I heard it "this is better than anything else I'd heard this year". Lex you are not the first person I'd heard say that you found yourself not coming back to it after a very positive first impression. Idk maybe that will happen to me too :\
― YES TYPE all your albums ballot out and post them here (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:07 (nine years ago) link
todd terje yes. not so sure about grouper.
― example (crüt), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:08 (nine years ago) link
Any chance Ariana Grande is in the top 20?
The one thing I regret about skipping the Pitchfork Fest was missing Neneh Cherry. Did anyone see her show?
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, January 28, 2015 3:55 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
It was just all right.
― Indexed, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:08 (nine years ago) link
suppose it would be nice for there to be more tunes (not just on the TB&B album but generally) that sound as infinity-swimming-pools luxuriant as Babyface's absolute best productions of the 90s ("You're Making Me High", "Diggin' On You" etc.)
I hear this on "Let's Do It": the oh-oh-oh and quiet insistent "Let's do it" Babyface backup vocals, the ooooh-ooohs after the chorus hook.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:09 (nine years ago) link
miranda and juan maclean are safe bets too; i agree that mariah and angaleena don't get in. parquet got love everywhere else and nicki stans are a considerable voting bloc. so:Run The JewelsD'AngeloTaylor Swiftfka TwigsTinasheCharli XCXCaribouOwen PallettThe War on DrugsAphex TwinAgainst Me!St VincentYGMiranda LambertThe Juan McLeanRich Gang
and i'd bet on parquet and nicki... Phantogram? Did Terje's "It's Album Time" not go in for last year? If not, it's gotta place here right?
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:09 (nine years ago) link
Grouper / Protomartyr split?
Seems like only 1 album from the metal poll top 10 is going to place. Even the winner isn't going to place. You would think a few things would crossover to ilm in general.
― Get Ducked (Cosmic Slop), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:09 (nine years ago) link
I bet Arca will place
― monster_xero, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:10 (nine years ago) link
xxp as in: which of the two is more likely to make it
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:10 (nine years ago) link
who is going to finish second to D'angelo?
― Get Ducked (Cosmic Slop), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:11 (nine years ago) link
grouper x 10000 xp
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:11 (nine years ago) link
Did Terje's "It's Album Time" not go in for last year?
it just came out this past April!
― example (crüt), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:12 (nine years ago) link
no Pharmakon, damn
1 to 4 in no order - D'Angelo, Taylor, RTJ, Aphex
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:12 (nine years ago) link
xps to slop i voted for nux vomica and YOB!
― indie fuxxor albums i have secretly spotified (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:13 (nine years ago) link
crut, i guess I got all the Strandbar/Spiral stuff confused with it. It's a fun album!
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:13 (nine years ago) link
RTJ will not be top 4. FKA twigs will.
― example (crüt), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:14 (nine years ago) link
i think aphex will be a shock placing outside the top 10
― Get Ducked (Cosmic Slop), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:14 (nine years ago) link
(definitely nux vomica...i barely remember my ballot at this point)
― indie fuxxor albums i have secretly spotified (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:14 (nine years ago) link
1. FKA2. D'Angelo (juuuuust released too late to take no 1 spot imho)3. Tay-tay4. Aphex5. St. Vincent
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:15 (nine years ago) link
as a nicki stan i can assure you that the pinkprint will have been nowhere near placing
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:15 (nine years ago) link
slothslopslimes
― flopson, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:16 (nine years ago) link
i'm thinking miranda lambert will be in the top ten
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:16 (nine years ago) link
Love the Protomartyr (would've been top 5 on my ballot had I voted) -- but if it hasn't gone in already, it's not going to.
― Tove Lo Tove You Baby (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:16 (nine years ago) link
d'angelo's not gonna make it. sorry guys.
― cajunsunday, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:17 (nine years ago) link
i voted 4 nicki
― flopson, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:17 (nine years ago) link
I was late to the Charli XCX game & didn't vote for it but that album is great
― example (crüt), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:17 (nine years ago) link
Given what's placed already I can't see Sleaford Mods missing the entire top 77. Ditto Flying Lotus.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:18 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, I'm not sure D'Angelo will be number one. If Beyonce couldn't win last year I'm not sure he can.
― Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:18 (nine years ago) link
Sharon von Etten might sneak in? Please God no Beck or Damon
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:18 (nine years ago) link
really hope SVE makes it in that album was fucking incredible
― indie fuxxor albums i have secretly spotified (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:19 (nine years ago) link
Amory's top 5 looks about right, StV will prob be a bit lower though
no Protomartyr is a bummer
― Simon H., Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:20 (nine years ago) link
SVE will make top 20, no doubt. Beck though, by god I hope he doesn't place... For ILM's sake. Think abt the children ffs.
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:20 (nine years ago) link
I think Owen Pallett might stand a chance of being top five. That album had crazy support on here. I wouldn't rule Todd Terje out either. I think he'll be like Daft Punk last year where the thread was full of people saying they were disappointed but the album will still do really well.
― Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:23 (nine years ago) link
todd terje album was so so good but it just didn't feel right putting it on my albums ballot, y'know?
― example (crüt), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:23 (nine years ago) link
If you insist:
Winner: D'Angelo and the VanguardTop 5: FKA twigs, Taylor SwiftCertainly: Against Me!, Aphex Twin, Caribou, Charli XCX, The Juan McLean, Miranda Lambert, Nicki Minaj, Owen Pallett, St. Vincent, Rich Gang, Run The Jewels, Tinashe, Todd Terje, The War on DrugsLikely: Beck, Grouper, Flying Lotus, Javiera Mena, Perfume Genius, Sharon von EttenPossibly: Arca, Phantogram
― The inscrutable savantism of (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:26 (nine years ago) link
What will be the album with the longest dedicated thread that has absolutely fuck all chance of placing?
My guess is: Thom Yorke - Tomorrow's Modern Boxes
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:26 (nine years ago) link
I think Twigs is gonna win.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:28 (nine years ago) link
yup
― flopson, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:30 (nine years ago) link
Migos?
― example (crüt), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:30 (nine years ago) link
would be surprised by Beck or Phantogram.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:31 (nine years ago) link
People saying they really liked the Neneh album and then just let it fade away experienced it just the opposite of how I did. I thought it was cool initially, but then it just kept getting better and better.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:32 (nine years ago) link
Migos suffer from vote splitting.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:32 (nine years ago) link
Would be surprised if Minaj made it. Not a lot of love for the album once it eventually came out and it wasn't even included in the nominations list until a few days before closing due to error.
― bae sremmurd (monotony), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:35 (nine years ago) link
uh pinkprint was not nominated guys
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:38 (nine years ago) link
Sia? Nenad Markovic? lol
― example (crüt), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:38 (nine years ago) link
in that case nicki puts thommy to shame:
Nicki Minaj - The Pink Print (2014)Not all messages are displayed: show all messages (823 of them)
Thom Yorke - Tomorrow's Modern BoxesNot all messages are displayed: show all messages (199 of them)
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:38 (nine years ago) link
oh ok maybe just last min, wasnt there when i voted
I think at this exact point last year people were debating if the first Run The Jewels album was going to make it. It missed out but can't remember by how much now.
― Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:39 (nine years ago) link
It was, but it wasn't transferred to the nominations list until about half way through the voting period.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:39 (nine years ago) link
still room for one more Lewis album
― example (crüt), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:39 (nine years ago) link
jenny lewis right?
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:40 (nine years ago) link
day 1 > day 3 > day 2
― Mordy, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:41 (nine years ago) link
Pretty much follows that pattern every year iirc
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:43 (nine years ago) link
YG should be a shoo-in tbh
― example (crüt), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:44 (nine years ago) link
shoo-in for top 10, even
― Simon H., Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:53 (nine years ago) link
my top 5 prediction would be is d'angelo, twigs, swift, owen and yg
― bae sremmurd (monotony), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 23:14 (nine years ago) link
(delete the "is" lol)
im pretty sure no one voted for a beck album in the year 2014, especially a mopey-mode beck album
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 23:27 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, I can't see the Beck album placing at all.
I think Monotony might be about right. Maybe Todd instead of YG.
― Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 23:35 (nine years ago) link
VINCE STAPLES
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 23:43 (nine years ago) link
If 8 votes got Babymetal in at #77 surely ILM's Staples stans can elevate Shyne Coldchain 2 into the top 20. Right? Right?!?
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 23:44 (nine years ago) link
Vince Staples couldn't even break into the tracks poll, he ain't showing up
― Simon H., Wednesday, 28 January 2015 23:45 (nine years ago) link
As shit as my poll has gone at least so far there has only only been 3 fucking tedious, useless, reductive fucking uber-schmoozer wanker-posts from ILX's leading worst fucking poster on this thread so far.
― xelab, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 23:47 (nine years ago) link
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, January 28, 2015 5:38 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yup it was: ILM's 2014 End of Year Albums & Tracks Poll / NOMINATIONS THREAD
but it didn't make it into the list. ppl, who wanted to vote for it were supposed to email the ppl running the poll if they wanted it included ILM's 2014 End of Year Albums & Tracks Poll / VOTING THREAD
conspiracy, basically
― flopson, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 23:49 (nine years ago) link
hey wait, strychnine posted more than three times
(xp)
― WRINKLEPAWSOME (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 23:50 (nine years ago) link
lol not true. I added it to the list when it was brought to my attention and it was added to your ballot manually within a half an hour of your request. CONSPIRACY MY EYE
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 23:51 (nine years ago) link
― flopson, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 23:52 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/8YVcuNW.jpg
― gr8080, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 23:54 (nine years ago) link
SPOILER!
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 23:56 (nine years ago) link
http://cdn.hiphopwired.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Iggy-Azalea-The-New-Classic.png
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 23:58 (nine years ago) link
isn't it a bit early for joke #1s?
― so not gonna häpna (seandalai), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 23:59 (nine years ago) link
had to be a bit more realistic and post that one as a joke #20
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 29 January 2015 00:01 (nine years ago) link
Pretty sure I've posted more than 3 times too so for once it's not me being called it.
― Get Ducked (Cosmic Slop), Thursday, 29 January 2015 00:10 (nine years ago) link
Shabazz Palaces, oh my fucking god! We're near the end & honestly this feels like a subliminal trip, like Shabazz is in my head fiddling with the wires, implanting awesome ideas I won't fully comprehend until my net wisdom has reached a certain point. It's absolutely fucking glorious & easily my favourite discovery of the rollout so far. Thanks for voting for it!
― DJ Quit (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 00:12 (nine years ago) link
^fake imago
― gr8080, Thursday, 29 January 2015 00:13 (nine years ago) link
Lol
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Thursday, 29 January 2015 00:18 (nine years ago) link
Is xelab a faux-British matt p sock? Only other person who's come out of nowhere to hate me so much.
― how's life, Thursday, 29 January 2015 00:18 (nine years ago) link
Probably my biggest disappointment of the year. I was hyped for it, but it just didn't click. I think the mix was off.― emil.y, Wednesday, January 28, 2015 8:26 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― emil.y, Wednesday, January 28, 2015 8:26 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah, this was supposed to be the ultimate and it didn't quite meet my expectations. I'd actually thought about this collaboration before it happened, and when it did I couldn't believe it. But ultimately it's Scott doing his thing over Sunn O))) doing their thing. With a marriage of these minds it could have been more than the sum of its parts. I haven't gone back to it all that much, but it has consolidated both Bish Bosch and Monoliths & Dimensions as the apex (so far) of what each act is able to do in my opinion. Still, the lyrics on Herod 2014 are some of the best Scott's done and I think 'OOOOH THE WIDE MISSOURI' is pretty special. Still, not enough Sunn O)), and maybe the wrong amount of Scott.
Sorry guys, I love you. You are among my favourite acts in history, but this gets a B-.
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Thursday, 29 January 2015 00:20 (nine years ago) link
i feel exactly the same way about Swans and Scott this year. They individually delivered my favourite albums of 2012, opened up so many horizons for me and acted like a bit of a benchmark in that respect which could never be surpassed, even by them.
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Thursday, 29 January 2015 00:22 (nine years ago) link
I've basically been listening to Richard Dawson on repeat since it placed in the tracks poll. Great record. I love that high English tenor. I love his melodic turns and phrasings. Sometimes it is so funny the way he gives such big melodies to small lyrics such as, "chaaassssing a ball throuuuggh theeee mud"
― mom, Thursday, 29 January 2015 00:24 (nine years ago) link
On the other hand, Richard Dawson has filled my 'weird dark art-music dude' void, but only in the last couple of weeks. Nothing Important blew my mind. I didn't vote for him in the tracks poll because I think Nothing Important needs to be taken as a whole, and I'm pleased he deservedly beat out Swans and Scott O))) in those stakes.
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Thursday, 29 January 2015 00:25 (nine years ago) link
This 'A Winged Victory For The Heart Of The Sun' thing is gorgeous! Absolutely just.. just gorgeous. Thanks ILM
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Thursday, 29 January 2015 00:33 (nine years ago) link
imo their self-titled album from a few years ago is even more gorgeous
― bae sremmurd (monotony), Thursday, 29 January 2015 00:39 (nine years ago) link
Lol! Matt P even takes the piss out of me. You are a boring reactionary poster who has a habit of jumping in with an ill conceived "huh! pc gone mad" type demeanour on multiple threads in recent times. Some of them were threads where people were using disablist slurs, that leaves me thinking you deserve nothing but contempt, so until you you actually admit you are an arsehole, fuck off and die.
― xelab, Thursday, 29 January 2015 00:49 (nine years ago) link
yea i shouldve posted abt it when i was doing my ballot cuz i was gonna put nicki on it, tho near the bottom tbh maybe giving it eight pts or something inconsequential
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 29 January 2015 00:52 (nine years ago) link
xelab...
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Thursday, 29 January 2015 00:53 (nine years ago) link
now i want a faux british sock
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2015 00:55 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/UoH9NpW.png
― gr8080, Thursday, 29 January 2015 01:02 (nine years ago) link
Anywheeeee, Shabazz Palaces... No, this is twiggy cobweb music to me. Then again, I have an increasing aversion to excessive reverb and over-reliance on plugin-style effects these days. It's too often a get-out-of-jail-card for artists who either seem to be embarrassed about their abilities or want a cheap way to make themselves sound out-of-the-ordinary. It's my chief problem with bands like War On Drugs - it attempts grand gestures but modesty-screens them in washy films of echo and haze until I'm left stranded without anything to really catch hold.
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Thursday, 29 January 2015 01:03 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcEXydy8zGM
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Thursday, 29 January 2015 01:05 (nine years ago) link
OTM x 100000. the tracks poll was so over the top, it was ridiculous. people like different things, get over it. almost made it so i didn't even want to post anymore.
5/57
― Bee OK, Thursday, 29 January 2015 02:58 (nine years ago) link
people like different things, like hating entire genres, get over it
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2015 03:01 (nine years ago) link
I don't know anything about plug-ins, but I've never heard the kinds of effects Shabazz Palaces come up with. Black Up was loaded with crazy sounds that I couldn't identify, but on this album that feature seems multiplied ten-fold.
― Dan S, Thursday, 29 January 2015 03:02 (nine years ago) link
http://youtu.be/81fwc8i704s?t=32s
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 29 January 2015 03:32 (nine years ago) link
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Wednesday, January 28, 2015 8:03 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Sounds like you aren't much of a shoegaze fan
― Evan, Thursday, 29 January 2015 03:57 (nine years ago) link
plugin-style effects
in my day we called em eventides
― don't ask me why i posted this (electricsound), Thursday, 29 January 2015 04:04 (nine years ago) link
Seems like only 1 album from the metal poll top 10 is going to place. Even the winner isn't going to place. You would think a few things would crossover to ilm in general.― Get Ducked (Cosmic Slop)
Yeah, it might be the first year there isn't really any psych or metal placing, unless you count Babymetal. I thought it was a good year for it too. YOB maybe has a shot.
Previous years:
201047. ELECTRIC WIZARD — Black Masses (334 points, 10 votes)61. ENSLAVED — Axioma Ethica Odini (272 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)69. SUN ARAW — On Patrol (252 points, 8 votes)77. HARVEY MILK — A Small Turn of Human Kindness (240 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)
20119. Uncle Acid and the Deadbeats — Blood Lust (696 points, 19 votes, two first place votes)49. Moon Duo — Mazes (350 points, 12 votes)55. Mastodon — The Hunter (328 points, 10 votes)65. The Psychic Paramount - II (290 points, 9 votes)75. Liturgy — Aesthethica (264 points, nine votes)
201210. GOAT World Music (736 Points, 21 Votes, 1 First Place Vote)30. TAME IMPALA Lonerism (426 Points, 15 Votes, 2 First Place Votes)51. SUN ARAW & M. GEDDES GENGRAS MEET THE CONGOS Icon Give Thank (298 Points, 12 Votes)52. CONVERGE All We Love We Leave Behind (296 Points, 10 Votes, 1 First Place Vote)
201331 DEAFHEAVEN Sunbather (512 points, 18 votes, 1 first place vote)48 YAMANTAKA // SONIC TITAN UZU (360 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote)53 CARCASS Surgical Steel (344 points, 9 votes, 3 first place votes)71 FÖLLAKZOID II (284 points, 9 votes)72 THEE OH SEES Floating Coffin (282 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 29 January 2015 04:50 (nine years ago) link
Lana Del Rey – Ultraviolence – Bores in on its own peculiar sound-world with admirable dedication: Felt Mountain + The Trinity Sessions + Lynch's "woman in trouble" via Angelo Badalamenti, simultaneously soothing and unsettling, framed as nostalgia but existing wholly in the present moment. Catchy songs, too, but the whole thing leaves me cold.
Angel Olsen – Burn Your Fire for No Witness – An oddly appropriate follow-up to LDR, as Olson trades in a similarly minimal and atmospheric Americana. The reference field here is wider and the narrative persona much less archly stylized, but I hear more commonalities than differences. Good not great. Recommend the gorgeous "White Fire" as an introductory track to the curious.
Mark Barrott – Sketches from an Island – Nice vibes, but nothing here held my interest.
Spoon – They Want My Soul – A featureless surface, the Ikea of rock.
Azealia Banks – Broke With Expensive Taste – No idea what I was expecting, but not a face full of oddball funk. Fascinating listen, right up my alley though I can easily see why her label hedged so long. Can't offer any kind of summary on the first pass, just a fascinating unpop album I look forward to knowing better. And I now know wherefore that bundt got eaten.
Toni Braxton & Babyface – Love, Marriage & Divorce – Recused. No comment.
The Soft Pink Truth – Why Do the Heathen Rage – Didn't like this when it first came out, and repeat exposure hasn't changed a thing. The concept is far more interesting than the music, imo.
Ariel Pink – Pom Pom – Ariel Pink is an irritating fuckwad.
Jessie Ware – Tough Love – Though I'd never so much as heard of Jessie Ware, I LOVED the two songs that showed up in tracks countdown. Album delivers on that promise and then some. With Azealia Banks, my favorite "new discovery" of today's rollout.
Future Islands – Singles – Anthemic synthpop driven skyward by Bizarro Planet soul diva vocals. I wasn't a fan going in, but Herring's endearingly heroic overcommitment eventually wore down my defenses. Even so, a little goes a long way.
Popcaan – Where We Come From – With those who could have used a few more uptempo bangers along the lines of "Number One Freak", but I dig the album for what it is. Hooks for days, appealingly minimal production, no throwaway tracks.
DJ Quik – The Midnight Life – I'm not damning this when I call it the worst Quik album in half a decade, but there you go. Still 95% better than 95% of what's out there. Though I'm a fan, I can't so easily dismiss LJ's concerns about the lyrics. Pussy popping line is breaktakingly vile, yeah, but I laugh when he nuts ice cream a few seconds later. Conflicted isn't always such a bad place to be?
Gazelle Twin – Unflesh – Another artist of whom I'd never heard. Nothing gained for lost innocence.
Swans – To Be Kind – Not sure I can call a favorite among the three most recent Swans albums, and I probably lean toward The Seer, but this isn't far behind (if at all). I'm not always up for it, but some days, there's no better noise in the world. Loud needed.
Scott O))) – Soused – Sex repellent.
K. Michelle – Anybody Wanna Buy a Heart? – Taking another raincheck. I like her voice, but the settings aren't really grabbing me.
Richard Dawson – Nothing Important – Feel about the album exactly as I did when "The Vile Stuff" showed up in tracks: dig the crooked guitar scrabble, not so much the vocals. Happy to leave it there.
Shabazz Palaces – Lese Majesty – Spent some time with this on release, but just as quickly let it drop from view. Less immediate than Black Up and probably too abstract for its own good, but it does make for a pleasant afternoon's drift. Rap for airports.
Neneh Cherry – Blank Project – One of my very favorite albums of the year, would easily have gone top five had I voted. A gorgeous voice supported by strong songs, a swinging rhythm section and a sympathetic production. What more you need?
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Thursday, 29 January 2015 05:06 (nine years ago) link
A featureless surface, the Ikea of rock.
That's as succinct and perfect a description of 21st century Spoon as I've ever read.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 05:27 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, it might be the first year there isn't really any psych or metal placing, unless you count Babymetal.
noura mint seymali & khun narin both very psych
― gr8080, Thursday, 29 January 2015 05:43 (nine years ago) link
just want to chime in and say i saw swans live last year as well and they were incredible, i felt like i was levitating the whole show and lost track of time. thank god for creepy old assholes imo.
xp very excited to check out that noura mint seymali album
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Thursday, 29 January 2015 05:46 (nine years ago) link
got no time for young assholes like ariel pink otoh
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Thursday, 29 January 2015 05:47 (nine years ago) link
one of the best parts about swans live is gira literally doing the jigglepanda dance
― gr8080, Thursday, 29 January 2015 05:48 (nine years ago) link
lol otm
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Thursday, 29 January 2015 05:48 (nine years ago) link
yeah i love his jigglepanda. this last show i saw truly sucked though. for hardcore fans & masochists only
― flopson, Thursday, 29 January 2015 05:52 (nine years ago) link
I found the Swans album to be largely ponderous and somewhat one-note after The Seer.
Meanwhile I'm too days late and listening to the Khun Narin record and right now it's pretty much the best music I've ever heard.
Also for real it's coming to something when ILM can't have an ad-hominem pop at poor underappreciated lambs like Spoon and the War on Drugs, like they don't have blanket critical appreciation everywhere else as it is. And I like the War on Drugs.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 January 2015 08:51 (nine years ago) link
And yeah, Khun Narin totally psych-rock. The Gazelle Twin is heavier than any metal as well.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 January 2015 08:53 (nine years ago) link
"I have an increasing aversion to excessive reverb and over-reliance on plugin-style effects these days. It's too often a get-out-of-jail-card for artists who either seem to be embarrassed about their abilities or want a cheap way to make themselves sound out-of-the-ordinary"
Love the idea that a former member of Digable Planets and the son of a legendary Zimbabwean musician would be so embarrassed about their musical abilities that they have to resort to a plugin.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 January 2015 09:01 (nine years ago) link
I have the same problem with Khun Narin that I had with Konono No.1. Initially fantastic, then about three tracks in, you realise you're not going to get any significant variations, and it all starts to sound oppressive in its relentlessness. So Staff Benda Bilili remain the street virtuosos I can get with.
― mike t-diva, Thursday, 29 January 2015 09:09 (nine years ago) link
The Botanist counts as metal, surely??
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Thursday, 29 January 2015 09:13 (nine years ago) link
if you need it to count as something then it counts as whatever you want to count it as and no one can tell you any different
― saer, Thursday, 29 January 2015 09:16 (nine years ago) link
xx post to Matt, well yeah, I didn't know that about Shabazz but if so then why so obfuscated? I appreciate some shoegaze and I like effects whe they're used, I dunno, artfully? tastefully? sparingly? I hear so much music in the last few years spanning a range of genres that just doesn't jibe with me because it sounds like someone came in and pressed the 'make it sound all washed out and gauzy' button in the studio.
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Thursday, 29 January 2015 09:18 (nine years ago) link
agree with mike tbh
― DJ Quit (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 09:18 (nine years ago) link
this soft pink truth album is fantastic :)
― nxd, Thursday, 29 January 2015 09:24 (nine years ago) link
that and flora have been my fav finds this year
― nxd, Thursday, 29 January 2015 09:27 (nine years ago) link
really want to know what responses Drew has gotten from within the BM 'community' - support, vilification, indifference etc
― DJ Quit (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 09:27 (nine years ago) link
What was the soft pink truth concept? Only SPT track I know is that really old "jesus was a cock sucking jew from galilee" one which was a banger but I haven't thought about it in years
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 09:38 (nine years ago) link
This is a good interview with Daniel lex: http://www.invisibleoranges.com/2014/06/interview-mix-drew-daniel-the-soft-pink-truth/
Key explanatory para:
The ... quote you provide certainly captures the spirit of what I’m doing: hopefully the record is taken as both humorous and serious, both loving and hateful, and it tackles kvlt authenticity with a stance that mingles worshipful attention to formal details with an oppositional spirit of “Bestial Mockery” […] If the “classic” era of black metal has become a set of canonized treasures, then that makes them ripe for a satanic profanation, an inversion of their professed values.
― Ratt in Mi Kitchen (Neil S), Thursday, 29 January 2015 09:45 (nine years ago) link
and it's worth stating that, theory aside, it's a really fun ravey house music record!
― Ratt in Mi Kitchen (Neil S), Thursday, 29 January 2015 09:46 (nine years ago) link
Covering/reappropriating classic BM songs into hard queer techno as a challenge to homophobia in BM and also because it's fun as fuck
Works incredibly well. You might even like it in a brutal sort of way. It's very metal in its outlook but also incredibly celebratory and uplifting imo
Great piece on The Formant about it - an interview with a BM vocalist explaining why he likes it & where it fits into the metal narrative
lol so yeah Neil otm
― DJ Quit (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 09:47 (nine years ago) link
The Soft Pink album isn't brutal, sonically, in the slightest. It is very funny though.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 January 2015 09:54 (nine years ago) link
No, it's in no way a metal album, other than these are reimaginings of black metal songs as house tracks. The lyrics are the same, maybe some melody lines have been re-used etc.. One of the best concept albums to come out of 2014.
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Thursday, 29 January 2015 10:02 (nine years ago) link
It is quite jarring, in a really good and funny way! You know how Lex is with sudden loud noises ;)
I don't mean that it is a metal album, I mean that it is metal as hell \m/
― DJ Quit (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 10:03 (nine years ago) link
Sometimes it comes across a bit like 90s industrial techno - I'm especially reminded of campy hard-techno concept albums like Ultraviolence's 'Psycho Drama'... Not sure if that was the intention though.
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Thursday, 29 January 2015 10:06 (nine years ago) link
I agree with DL; I tried to listen to these tracks, but they brought back too many bad memories of 90s metal/industrial techno and hardcore... I'd much rather listen to proper house music by this act.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 29 January 2015 10:19 (nine years ago) link
actually, I'm just listening to the Gazelle Twin album for the first time, and would say that it is comparable to the SPT album in production style, sound palette etc.
― Ratt in Mi Kitchen (Neil S), Thursday, 29 January 2015 10:23 (nine years ago) link
they both share a certain brittleness it's true
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Thursday, 29 January 2015 10:24 (nine years ago) link
I made a compilation this year called Body/Sound with stuff including the Holly Herndon's 'Body Sound', Gazelle Twin and Pharmakon among others. Strange that this anatomical/body horror/organic noisetronica thing seems to be a thing this year.
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Thursday, 29 January 2015 10:49 (nine years ago) link
Holy shit, I was looking at the full track poll results, and I just realized that up until now I've conflated Taylor Swift and Miley Cyrus in my head! I remember finding it weird that no one in the tracks poll thread brought up the whole "twerk scandal" when Swift's tracks showed up, but I just thought ILM loves its teenpop so much it's willing to forgive anything.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 29 January 2015 11:47 (nine years ago) link
― DJ Quit (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 11:54 (nine years ago) link
miley cyrus, yeah i remember her!
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Thursday, 29 January 2015 11:58 (nine years ago) link
who recused you?
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 January 2015 11:59 (nine years ago) link
Miley did actually place in the both the albums and tracks polls last year fwiw.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 January 2015 12:12 (nine years ago) link
http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/67/tumblr_lbg76hKWjQ1qzz7nr.gif
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Thursday, 29 January 2015 12:37 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/za90tul.jpg
20 JAVIERA MENA Otra Era [574 points, 18 votes, 3 first place votes]
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 14:05 (nine years ago) link
― 龜, Thursday, 29 January 2015 14:06 (nine years ago) link
I guess if I hear the two albums side by side Otra Era sounds as good as its predecessor but it didn't move me as much...? I don't know. I did LOVE "Sincronia, Pegaso," which is the Latin American disco jam I've been waiting to hear at a Miami club.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 January 2015 14:07 (nine years ago) link
― ciderpress, Thursday, 29 January 2015 14:09 (nine years ago) link
sweet record, think it finished just outside my 25
― nxd, Thursday, 29 January 2015 14:11 (nine years ago) link
is this the first javiera mena album to have placed after years of her tracks?
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 14:11 (nine years ago) link
TBF this is the first album she's released since she rose to ILX prominence
― 龜, Thursday, 29 January 2015 14:12 (nine years ago) link
nah previous record placed well too iirc
― nxd, Thursday, 29 January 2015 14:12 (nine years ago) link
52nd
― nxd, Thursday, 29 January 2015 14:14 (nine years ago) link
i am a bad ilxor because i don't think i've ever listened to one of her songs ever, or if i have, they have left no trace at all. will dutifully trundle off to spotify i guess
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Thursday, 29 January 2015 14:17 (nine years ago) link
trundle to youtube, plenty of fun videos :)
― nxd, Thursday, 29 January 2015 14:19 (nine years ago) link
the track that placed this year is really lovely, balearic pop - all ice creams and twinkling sand.
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Thursday, 29 January 2015 14:23 (nine years ago) link
Also the video was awesome
― YES TYPE all your albums ballot out and post them here (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 29 January 2015 14:25 (nine years ago) link
Wonderful album. This is my favourite of hers so far. Not a bad song on there.
― Kitchen Person, Thursday, 29 January 2015 14:26 (nine years ago) link
Ok the one w the awesome video made last year's countdown
― proggy went a-courtin' (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 29 January 2015 14:28 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/R8cVhon.jpg
19 RICH GANG The Tour Part 1 [581 points, 18 votes, 3 first place votes]
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 14:32 (nine years ago) link
ugh the hour i spent listening to this felt like about five. such an energy-suck, the beats all sound tinny and identical. don't think i enjoyed it at any point
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 14:36 (nine years ago) link
lol I was gonna say, posting this during the UK shift won't work out so well
not a fan of much of this stuff. 'stoner' is fun. lyrics seem a combination of trite and problematic; will stand to be corrected though. fully aware that there's a large contingent who think these guys are saving rap or w/e
― DJ Quit (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 14:37 (nine years ago) link
pretty cool starfish costume that one guy has
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Thursday, 29 January 2015 14:38 (nine years ago) link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7e/Patrick_Star.png
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 29 January 2015 14:39 (nine years ago) link
tempted to check this out on the back of Lifestyle (which I love). So is this no good then?
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Thursday, 29 January 2015 14:39 (nine years ago) link
hahahaha xp
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 14:39 (nine years ago) link
let's allow the trap gang their say, dear chap
― DJ Quit (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 14:40 (nine years ago) link
the trap cadre
Love the Rich Gang, tho somehow left it off my ballot I think. Kinda have endless patience for rap in this wheelhouse.
― pandemic, Thursday, 29 January 2015 14:40 (nine years ago) link
also yeah ty
― young thug squarepants (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 14:41 (nine years ago) link
Voted for the DJ Quik from yesterday as well mainly on the strength of the 4 songs I really love on it. Problematic lyrics?? Yeah, don't care.
― pandemic, Thursday, 29 January 2015 14:43 (nine years ago) link
imo you should but w/e
― young thug squarepants (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 14:44 (nine years ago) link
He kept placing in the other pol rightl? Definitely had enough of him
― saer, Thursday, 29 January 2015 14:44 (nine years ago) link
amazing mixtape, London On Da Track made my favorite beat of the year ("About The Money") and then proved he had a whole bunch of other tricks in his bag over the course of the Rich Gang project. have no idea what Lex means about tinny and identical production, the beats are varied and huge-sounding.
― some dude, Thursday, 29 January 2015 14:44 (nine years ago) link
The curious should try "Flava" imo
― rob, Thursday, 29 January 2015 14:49 (nine years ago) link
agree
― some dude, Thursday, 29 January 2015 14:50 (nine years ago) link
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, January 29, 2015 9:32 AM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
http://i.imgur.com/TRW9sSW.gif
#1 #1 #1
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2015 14:53 (nine years ago) link
#1 19 RICH GANG The Tour Part 1 [581 points, 18 votes, 3 first place votes]
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2015 14:54 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/GxIG8Xi.jpg
18 MIRANDA LAMBERT Platinum [604 points, 16 votes, 1 first place vote]
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 14:56 (nine years ago) link
xxp Like '730' off that tape a lot as well.
― pandemic, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:00 (nine years ago) link
awwww no top ten
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:01 (nine years ago) link
but is this the highest Lambert's ever ranked?
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:02 (nine years ago) link
Its weird after everybody clowned Lex for not 'getting' Lifestyle how...not good that song turned out to be. Thug literally sounds brain-damaged in the back half of every chorus.
You think Black Portland has a shot at making it?
― proggy went a-courtin' (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:02 (nine years ago) link
First Pistol Annies was top ten. I think CXG was in the thirties though
― proggy went a-courtin' (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:03 (nine years ago) link
i remember when CMT first started playing the "Me and Charlie Talking" video round the clock 10 years ago and she seemed like the most feeble cheeseball wannabe star ever. still astounded she's become a critically beloved superstar.
― some dude, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:04 (nine years ago) link
the tape is so cool, the word/vibe that ultimately resonates with me re #1 RICH GANG The Tour Part 1 is intimate, like you get that feeling with thugger and quan of cabin fever, two dudes who are in the midst of spending a lot of time together (in the sutdio i guess) and theyve developed this chemistry of inside jokes and theyre starting to talk like and think like each other, which is really cool to hear in the music how their respective styles bleed into each other like quan totally gets on that thug tip with having a million diff styles/cadences every song and thuggers energy gets a little groovier and human via quan, its also intimate from the pov of being totally sexy w the smooth jazz beat and the near constant come ons which seem designed to appeal to actually humans rather than just some self involved braggy bodycount bs, such a legit great work of art everyone check it out :)
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:05 (nine years ago) link
Thug literally sounds brain-damaged in the back half of every chorus.
That's the hook though
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:05 (nine years ago) link
Black Portland definitely not gonna place. Christgau and a few other rockcrits prefer it to Rich Gang but not many people around here.
― some dude, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:05 (nine years ago) link
I rank Kerosene third among her albums.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:06 (nine years ago) link
booming post from lagoon
― some dude, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:06 (nine years ago) link
country stars required by law to pose by wheeled conveyances
― young thug squarepants (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:06 (nine years ago) link
Correction: CXG was #27 of 2007
― proggy went a-courtin' (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:07 (nine years ago) link
i am rn printing out a photograph of a chaffinch on a computer whose speakers don't work, it is bliss
― young thug squarepants (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:07 (nine years ago) link
def wanna get int othis now I've read lagoon's post.
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:07 (nine years ago) link
great post lagoon
― pandemic, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:08 (nine years ago) link
[bows]
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:09 (nine years ago) link
ya gr8 stuff
i was one of the three #1 votes. it tails off near the end but the openning run of, like, 10 songs givenchy thru i got is straight 10/10 one after the next
― flopson, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:11 (nine years ago) link
def a few songs in the second half that cldve been left off but it wld be an album not a tape in that case
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:12 (nine years ago) link
if i had a few more months to digest it and/or a CD copy to play in my car it probably could've been my #1 instead of my #3
― some dude, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:14 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/9jrcTOU.jpg
17 AGAINST ME! Transgender Dysphoria Blues [607 points, 16 votes, 4 first place votes]
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:16 (nine years ago) link
the CROZ album is actually pretty good! It's better the new Spoon IMO (&i'm a moderate Spoon fan).
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:17 (nine years ago) link
also i love "who's on top" obvs
― flopson, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:17 (nine years ago) link
top tenned the last two. My Young Thug-Migos-Rich Gang go-to thing remains The lag∞n Mixtape
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:18 (nine years ago) link
today's nipple count at 3
― gr8080, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:18 (nine years ago) link
excellent recorderroneously thought i voted fuckmylife666 so didn't vote for the album :( what a dope
― nxd, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:19 (nine years ago) link
phew
my #23
clicked on the NPR stream of this expecting to be all 'oh ilm and its silly taste in rock', ended up listening to the damn thing about 3 times
it's superb imo - rollicking, super energetic, well-written and lyrically important
― young thug squarepants (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:19 (nine years ago) link
this miranda lambert album is really awesome. her solo albums since crazy ex-girlfriend both underwhelmed me to varying degrees despite those years seeing the emergence of pistol annies (so you couldn't really say lambert fell off at all) and of course the whole post-lambert wave of young female country talents. but i think platinum finally found her finding a mode that worked for her as an established grande dame rather than young ferocious firebrand shooting everything up. someone on her thread compared it to beyoncé and that's really accurate - both albums made by women at the peak of their profession and genre, both deeply personal in their reflections on themselves and outward-facing in their commentary on femininity/body image in society and crucially multi-faceted in the way they balance the traditional with the radical
"bathroom sink" is just killer, and works so well as the dark flipside of "platinum" in which miranda revels in her ability to win a game she knows is rotten"girls" feels like an anthem in waiting"two rings shy" spins and lurches and wheels around its central metaphor brilliantly"hard staying sober" has that amazing false ending then WHY YA THINK THE WORLD DRINKS??????
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:20 (nine years ago) link
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Thursday, January 29, 2015 9:39 AM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
never listen to lex's opinions on rap music
― flopson, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:21 (nine years ago) link
and it's appropriate that she wrote "Bathroom Sink" by herself.
My #1 album of the year, marred by poor single choices.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:21 (nine years ago) link
worst development of this poll is imago letting us know every time he finds the lyrics of a rap song problematic
Other M Lambert placings:
Kerosene - #445 of 2005Revolution - #31 of 2009Four the Record - #233 of 2011
xp !!! I had TDB pegged for top ten for sure!
― proggy went a-courtin' (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:23 (nine years ago) link
also ty to 'some dude' for nominating (among certain other things) the Chumped album, because that's emerging as another great pop-punk/emo record from 2014, with another strong pan-album lyrical conceit
― young thug squarepants (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:23 (nine years ago) link
― flopson, Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:21 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i like most of the same rap music as you, dickhead
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:25 (nine years ago) link
That it for you LJ? I have one more coming
― proggy went a-courtin' (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:25 (nine years ago) link
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, January 29, 2015 10:18 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
being ilxes #1 young thug scholar is a lot of responsibility but also an honor thank you
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:25 (nine years ago) link
I have 1 more - a very high vote from me too. Clue: he's an ILX poster, lol
― young thug squarepants (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:26 (nine years ago) link
i agree with this though, add in his commentary about country and it's just like...does he even realise the stereotypical ignorance rap and country fans have heard a million times before
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:26 (nine years ago) link
oh no, I have 2 more. the other one is not an ILX poster but it is 2 rappers rollin' 2003 or w/e the h8rs call it
― young thug squarepants (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:27 (nine years ago) link
what is my commentary on country in this poll?
don't believe I've said anything except to praise LAW a bit and point out the similarities in album covers
― young thug squarepants (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:28 (nine years ago) link
Metal lyrics are just as bad as rap
― sock (strychnine), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:29 (nine years ago) link
and look at the lazy stereotyping metal gets too
― Get Ducked (Cosmic Slop), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:30 (nine years ago) link
speaking of i thought the hotelier might place. lol guess not
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:30 (nine years ago) link
metal lyrics are extremely good and cool
― ciderpress, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:31 (nine years ago) link
i agree with this though, add in his commentary about country and it's just like...does he even realise the stereotypical ignorance rap and country fans have heard a million times before― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:26 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
And indie and metal but w/e
― pig∞n (dog latin), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:31 (nine years ago) link
Oh too late
― pig∞n (dog latin), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:32 (nine years ago) link
Metal lyrics are just as bad as rap― sock (strychnine), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:29 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Have you ever heard any metal or even taken notice of the lyrics? Or is this just an assumption?
― pig∞n (dog latin), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:33 (nine years ago) link
anyway ftr i enjoy lex's contributions to these threads, his consistency of taste & his enthusiasm (not dissimilar to my own) so idk peace, you take your miranda lambert and i'll take my menace ruine
ignore strychnine
― young thug squarepants (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:35 (nine years ago) link
but maybe strychnine thinks rap lyrics are great
― Evan, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:36 (nine years ago) link
fuck/marry/kill
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:36 (nine years ago) link
sun/kill/moon
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:36 (nine years ago) link
also ftr i voted for 3 hip-hop trax and 3 hip-hop albums & would never generalise about it
can we talk abt against me! pls
― young thug squarepants (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:37 (nine years ago) link
(not dissimilar to my own)
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― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:37 (nine years ago) link
I genuinely thought Miranda was a lock for the top 10 given that both Kacey Musgraves and Pistol Annies placed there.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:38 (nine years ago) link
:)
― young thug squarepants (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:39 (nine years ago) link
Hey Imago I can save you ten minutes of scouring Rapgenius for things to be appalled by advising you just skip the YG album when it appears.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:39 (nine years ago) link
Musgraves rode non-country support, I think, and Pistol Annies I don't know.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:40 (nine years ago) link
PLATINUM was my #1 just ahead of Gazelle Twin. totally incredible record with only one moderately "eh" track (and yet it was the first single and the track a lot of year end voters rallied around.) her singing on this album is masterclass.
And I was the one who thought it was like 'beyonce'. ;)
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:40 (nine years ago) link
Two coffins for sleep.One for you, one for me.We'll get there eventually.
In the dark of our graves our bodies will decay.I wish you'd never change.
How lucky I ever was to seethe way that you smiled at me.Your little moon face shining bright at me.One day soon there'll be nothing left of you and me.
Two coffins for sleep.
All the things I have yet to lose will someday be gone too.Back into annihilation.All things will fade, maybe it's better off that way.I wish you'd stay with me.
― brain floss mix (sleeve), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:41 (nine years ago) link
feel like two or three folks who'd have put Platinum at #1 didn't vote maybe? alfred?
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:42 (nine years ago) link
― lex pretend, Thursday, January 29, 2015 10:25 AM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ya but we differ on crucial pts at which ppl should defer to me
― flopson, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:42 (nine years ago) link
lambert is surprisingly low yeah, though it was also surprisingly high on pazz & jop. despite being the progenitor, i found her a much more difficult sell to people who were converted by k musgraves and b clark - she's a much brasher, glitzier, camper proposition
i also though angaleena presley would be a lock for at least the lower reaches of the 77 so absolutely no pistol annies effect there :( such a great album though.
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:43 (nine years ago) link
― flopson, Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:42 PM (30 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
SOMEONE has to provide some anti-rich gang balance given praise gets lavished on them from all other quarters
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:44 (nine years ago) link
Does someone?
― quan voice (voodoo chili), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:44 (nine years ago) link
maybe its just good tho think abt it
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:44 (nine years ago) link
Rich Gang top ten for me, super-enjoyable throughout its approx 180 minute runtime.
― quan voice (voodoo chili), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:45 (nine years ago) link
I haven't listened to Platinum though I loved the first Pistol Annies album and have liked almost every solo single of hers. Same with LAW, except I only heard a couple recommendations scattrred throughout various threads. Sturgill missed my ballot by inches; dude had like three or four really great ideas but still tows the line a little too much for me and his druggie nihilism still feels a lot like status updates from an old high school friend who broke up from a LTR and began becoming obsessed with Hunter S Thompson and Bill Hicks and John Lennon. I'm holding out hope that a couple records down the road he might stumble into Up On the Sun territory from the opposite end if the country spectrum
The only other country album I was tempted to check out was from the other SS: Sunny Sweeney. The last album I heard from her wasn't necessarily front-to-back amazing but it had a couple songs--Staying's Worse than Leaving and From a Table Away--that I still am passionate about, esp the latter which is just super-smart in terms of songwriting...
― proggy went a-courtin' (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:46 (nine years ago) link
...ummm I thought for some reason LJ was asking ME for my commentary on country music in this poll
― proggy went a-courtin' (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:47 (nine years ago) link
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:06 (26 minutes ago) Permalink
This is a tough one for me because I have played the first two albums countless times. It may take a few more years for Platinum to dethrone one of them. For me:
CEG = Kerosene > Platinum > Four the Record = Revolution
CEG is the better front-to-back album, but Kerosene has a couple of individual tracks that I think still stand as some of the best in her catalog. Four the Record and Revolution both have some tremendous material but needed to be edited down significantly; when I first saw the tracklist for Platinum, I thought "here we go again," but it somehow holds together, especially if you treat it as a double-record.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, January 29, 2015 9:21 AM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
If there's been a consistent injustice in Lambert's career, it's that some of her worst songs (relatively) have been some of her biggest hits. "Somethin' Bad" is borderline unlistenable--I skip it nearly every time. "Heart Like Mine", "Over You", "Automatic", and "We Were Us" were all top 5 country hits that are among my least favorite of her songs.
― Indexed, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:47 (nine years ago) link
Very welcome it is, DAM!
― young thug squarepants (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:48 (nine years ago) link
man, I could use a coffin to sleep in right about now
my fave thing about the AM! record is the channeling of Ziggy Stardust that happens on "True Trans Soul Rebel", at least I hear glam-era Bowie in there
and the bridge of "Unconditional Love"
― brain floss mix (sleeve), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:48 (nine years ago) link
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little),
nope!
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:49 (nine years ago) link
I haven't listened to Platinum though I loved the first Pistol Annies album and have liked almost every solo single of hers. Same with LAW, except I only heard a couple recommendations scattrred throughout various threads.
The only other country album I was tempted to check out was from the other SS: Sunny Sweeney.
― proggy went a-courtin' (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, January 29, 2015 9:46 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
These are all fantastic. The new SS is better than her first album, imo.
― Indexed, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:49 (nine years ago) link
"somethin' bad" >>> "automatic". I don't hate them or anything, they're just sort of by the numbers
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:50 (nine years ago) link
i disagree but i only listened to it twice xpost
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:50 (nine years ago) link
possible i just felt the newer sunny sweeney record could've been edited down significantly
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:51 (nine years ago) link
Four the Record and Revolution both have some tremendous material but needed to be edited down significantly
i think it wasn't so much the lack of good material on these albums that weighed them down as the lack of a distinctive overall thrust; they're comparable to post-2005 mary j blige in that of course there are some good songs, she's a legend, but they seem almost accidental and overall the effect is of someone who has grown out of an artistic mode they excelled at and isn't quite sure where to go next
platinum by contrast is such a complete and confident statement of who miranda lambert is as an artist in 2014
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:51 (nine years ago) link
When you put it like this, yeah, these songs look like depressing cases of treading water or adapting her to A/C sounds. But then there's "Kerosene," "The House That Built Me" (the real country chart breakthrough)," "Famous in a Small Town," "Mama's Broken Heart," "Only Prettier." She's a got a decent singles comp waiting.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:51 (nine years ago) link
got yr rap opinions folks step right up hot fresh rap opinions straight off the press
― flopson, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:52 (nine years ago) link
Those two- and three-minute nuggets at the start of Revolution ("Only Prettier," "Me and Your Cigarettes," "Maintain the Pain") is her best sequence ever imo
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:52 (nine years ago) link
Downloaded the Against Me album on the strength of the two singles that placed in the track poll and it's great, though the ones that aren't about the core subject don't connect quite as much.
― quan voice (voodoo chili), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:53 (nine years ago) link
i definitely voted for the against me album and i still don't really have any idea how to talk about it
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:54 (nine years ago) link
good albums, good songs
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:55 (nine years ago) link
Presley's solo album didn't live up to the Pistol Annies records, imo. Nothing on there as good as "Lemon Drop" or "The Hunter's Wife" but it had a few good tunes.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, January 29, 2015 9:52 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
The first half of Revolution is so good. "Me and Your Cigarettes" and "Airstream Song" especially.
― Indexed, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:57 (nine years ago) link
Brad I guess one thing to note is that I really like the homemade production on the AM! album, I know ums described it as sounding like it was "made in garageband", but for me it's nice to pull back from the gloss of the major label records, it also dovetails nicely with all of the rebirth/re-gender themes, a new sound.
― brain floss mix (sleeve), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:58 (nine years ago) link
i kinda hated the production for a long time, you put one of those songs in soundcloud and its levels are all over the place
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:58 (nine years ago) link
now i sorta find it charming. it definitely sounds like it's their third time recording it
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:59 (nine years ago) link
punky lo-fi recording a plus in my book
― young thug squarepants (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:05 (nine years ago) link
hope JF's had a lovely drive
http://i.imgur.com/3JMdV5t.jpg
16 GROUPER Ruins [615 points, 21 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:05 (nine years ago) link
Too low :(
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:06 (nine years ago) link
aha thought my ballot was done other than war on drugs but forgot about this one
― ciderpress, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:06 (nine years ago) link
― Get Ducked (Cosmic Slop), Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:07 (nine years ago) link
about where it should be. gorgeous, harrowing album that's also v light
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:07 (nine years ago) link
otm bn
― nxd, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:08 (nine years ago) link
i never quite understand the praise grouper gets, especially from corners who don't usually delve too deep into quiet female singer-songwriter territory. her music always sounds lovely and is very calming to listen to but writing songs that stick doesn't seem to be her thing...it's just gauzey prettiness compared to someone like mirel wagner
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:08 (nine years ago) link
also the differences between her albums must be minuscule
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:10 (nine years ago) link
I don't think she has much in common w/ Mirel Wagner really
― Simon H., Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:11 (nine years ago) link
always got time for grouper,if i'm in the mood normally go back to 'disengaged' from DADDUAH to kick off a listening session
― nxd, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:11 (nine years ago) link
yeah, i have the 'dragging a dead deer' album, but i wonder why i'd need much more of her work... is this significantly different?
― pig∞n (dog latin), Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:11 (nine years ago) link
lex have you tried "Clearing" from this new one? her most immediately memorable yet imo
seeing her do these songs in a huge converted abbey (with giant video projections of waves etc. on the whole back wall) was one of the most awesome musical experiences I had in 2014
also this new one is very different - basically no effects on most of it, piano-based as well.
― brain floss mix (sleeve), Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:11 (nine years ago) link
I'm with lex on this one. If I want to get into the mood Grouper puts me in, I'd rather hear something like Mirel Wagner instead.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:11 (nine years ago) link
'clearing' is such a stunning song. I can listen to that one over and over.
― cajunsunday, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:11 (nine years ago) link
not true- this ones very diff from dead deer
― gr8080, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:12 (nine years ago) link
no but i'll try! i heard "call across rooms" which i thought was fine and did not inspire me to check the album out. grouper writing memorable songs is def something i'd be down for
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:13 (nine years ago) link
I was gonna say, Ruins is completely different from Dead Deer. This one is so minimal and sparse, it's so intimate.
xp to Gr80
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:13 (nine years ago) link
i prefer dead deer, tried getting in to this one, didn't hate it but not as great as dead deer
― gr8080, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:13 (nine years ago) link
couple of great songs on this but i just couldn't really get into it as a whole - could have done with a bit more variety i think?
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:13 (nine years ago) link
lots of quiet/ambient/discreet music in this poll, it's true
― pig∞n (dog latin), Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:15 (nine years ago) link
the idea of a less dense, piano-focused Grouper record recorded in the portugese countryside sounded great, but it never gelled imo
― gr8080, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:18 (nine years ago) link
love this record. I know that this sounds like a knock on it, but I like that it helps me go to sleep. It's been a magical cure for anxiety these past few months, clears my head as soon as I put it on.
― Roz, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:19 (nine years ago) link
this album did not click with me
― example (crüt), Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:20 (nine years ago) link
great album. I'm down w/her particular spaced out gauziness so much.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:24 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/mxzKH5X.jpg
15 CARIBOU Our Love [618 points, 22 votes, 2 first place votes]
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:25 (nine years ago) link
I find "Heavy Water / I'd Rather Be Sleeping" to be very memorable, particularly. But yeah Ruins is much different while still sounding very much like Grouper.
― Evan, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:26 (nine years ago) link
The Grouper one didn't stick with me either, but I love most of her releases up to and including Dragging A Dead Deer Up A Hill.
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:26 (nine years ago) link
pitchfork review of "our love" almost made me stop liking it
― gr8080, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:26 (nine years ago) link
too high
― brain floss mix (sleeve), Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:29 (nine years ago) link
rarely made it past the first 2 songs on this one since they were way better than the rest
― ciderpress, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:30 (nine years ago) link
Some other Grouper tracks that are memorable: Disengaged, False Horizon, Poison Tree.
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:30 (nine years ago) link
But lex is mainly correct, it's atmospheric.
this album did not click with me― example (crüt)Grouper album made me want to torch all of Spotify. Not sure if that counts as 'clicking'. Something snapped, leastways.
Caribou album is a fine thing, but I think it was at or near the bottom of my ballot.
― Jeff W, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:30 (nine years ago) link
Wherefore art thou, Hot Chip?
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:32 (nine years ago) link
could someone tell me what is going on musically with Second Chance?
― campreverb, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:36 (nine years ago) link
people need to stop listening to terrible, bland, twiggy indie dance music.
― pig∞n (dog latin), Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:36 (nine years ago) link
caribou was good for 2 records
― young thug squarepants (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:38 (nine years ago) link
i will never stop
― ciderpress, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:38 (nine years ago) link
Maybe I was just distracted by the name change, but I liked the Daphni record better than anything he's done as Caribou (liked the first Manitoba records, tho).
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:39 (nine years ago) link
Caribou sounds like clothes shopping music to me now.
― Evan, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:39 (nine years ago) link
What about Sun?
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:41 (nine years ago) link
Sun is unlistenable.
I think at one point I liked Andorra a bit though.
― pig∞n (dog latin), Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:42 (nine years ago) link
many xpsgrouper is enjoyable for me on account of the lack of traditional song structure/aimlessness i don't find it that interesting to listen to in the car or pay much attention to or whatever but when i need to chill, sure i'll listen to grouper
― groundless round (La Lechera), Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:42 (nine years ago) link
I'm trying to remember the name of an IDM artist I used to like who was somewhere in the same ballpark as Manitoba and active circa 2002-2006, and had a track with the word 'fishermen' in it. i know that's very vague, but it was a really good record, very melodic and playful. any ideas?
― pig∞n (dog latin), Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:44 (nine years ago) link
But I'm listening to Sun right now! Actually it works primarily on a dancefloor or a festival, strange that he didn't produce the track with that context so explicitly in mind.
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:44 (nine years ago) link
I think I had heard various DJs play Sun a half dozen times or so before I realized it was a track from Manitoba man.
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:46 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/2GwU7Gs.jpg
14 MR TWIN SISTER Mr Twin Sister [620 points, 18 votes, 1 first place vote]
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:48 (nine years ago) link
wait, who?
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:50 (nine years ago) link
Whoop Whoop. Did not expect.
― The inscrutable savantism of (Sanpaku), Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:50 (nine years ago) link
This was the most unexpected directional shift I've known a band to undergo in as long as I can remember. Also, it was a good idea because this is a fucking great record.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:50 (nine years ago) link
someone tell me about this album
― gr8080, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:50 (nine years ago) link
intriguing.
― how's life, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:51 (nine years ago) link
They used to just be called Twin Sister and made some nu-gaze/dreampop stuff, but they changed their name due to conflict and began making smooth balearic Sade-like grooves.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:51 (nine years ago) link
Mr Twin Sister
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:51 (nine years ago) link
I had a feeling this would place. Gorgeous album.
― Kitchen Person, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:52 (nine years ago) link
xpost this is a good album - bits of it are like a dreampop Sade and there's one track that reminds me of prime Underworld
― Stig of the sanctimonious uncontextualized linkdump (Michael B), Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:52 (nine years ago) link
"easy glistening" sounds about right on first blush
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:52 (nine years ago) link
I love how the album changes mood in the second half. It's almost like a different band.
― Kitchen Person, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:53 (nine years ago) link
I haven't checked this out, looks like I'm missing out on something.
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:54 (nine years ago) link
I think this should appeal to my balearic crew, to my sade crew, to my dixon crew, all crews welcome in fact.― Tim F, Friday, October 3, 2014 4:20 PM (3 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Tim F, Friday, October 3, 2014 4:20 PM (3 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― The inscrutable savantism of (Sanpaku), Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:54 (nine years ago) link
'Out Of The Dark' sounds immense on good phones, another better-than-actual-Hercules&LA type track
― nashwan, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:55 (nine years ago) link
mr twin sister >>>>>>>>
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:56 (nine years ago) link
Had this one high on my ballot, but started doubting that it would place. Glad it did though.
― MarkoP, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:57 (nine years ago) link
got this very late in the year and wound up voting for it, great record
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:58 (nine years ago) link
Amusing fact: the original Twin Sister who claimed the name is the self-proclaimed "greatest Star Wars funk band”, performing in full costume at fancons.
― The inscrutable savantism of (Sanpaku), Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:58 (nine years ago) link
love this record so much!!
― j. winters (josh), Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:58 (nine years ago) link
missed this completely but seems like a thing I'd enjoy. going to check it out!
― Roz, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:03 (nine years ago) link
"Out of the Dark" still demands an extended mix. 3:20 isn't enough.
― The inscrutable savantism of (Sanpaku), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:03 (nine years ago) link
Relistening to this album, I gotta say TOO LOW (I don't think it was even on my ballot, though, so fuck me).
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:04 (nine years ago) link
it's deliberate riot provocation imo xp
― nashwan, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:04 (nine years ago) link
oh hey i don't know this but it looks promising
― example (crüt), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:06 (nine years ago) link
had never heard this til now, am immediately taken with it
nashwan otm about it being a great headphones record (so far)
― indie fuxxor albums i have secretly spotified (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:07 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/Yh3zHBg.jpg
13 RUN THE JEWELS Run the Jewels 2 [673 points, 27 votes, 1 first place vote]
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:09 (nine years ago) link
Thought this was ok but I liked the first album a lot more. Surprised this one got so much more attention.
― Kitchen Person, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:10 (nine years ago) link
!!!!
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:10 (nine years ago) link
take that, Pitchfork and P&J.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:10 (nine years ago) link
happy this placed above rich gang
― young thug squarepants (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:11 (nine years ago) link
(my #11, reckon it's much better than the first one & generally just completely blistering & fucked, both of them are awesome. the SEGUES)
― young thug squarepants (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:12 (nine years ago) link
surprised this isn't top 5, thought ILM liked it a lot more
― Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link
It's better than Rich Gang and not as good as My Krazy Life so justice prevails.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link
the vocals are dragging Mr Twin Sister down for me but the quality of the production is undeniable
― example (crüt), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:14 (nine years ago) link
RTJ2 works better as a whole piece than the first one, but first record def is more pure fun shit-talking rap
― indie fuxxor albums i have secretly spotified (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:14 (nine years ago) link
Yes, the simplicity and airiness of Ruins makes it a serene, reflective listening experience--far more accessible than her previous albums, which I think explains its high placement in a few lists. But I found it striking that so many critics seemed enamored with the concept of a microwave beeping.
To these ears Dead Deer is still far and away her best work, with Cover the Windows and Walls not far behind.
― Indexed, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:14 (nine years ago) link
I have been avoiding Mr Twin Sister all year because for some reason I got them muddled up with Twin Shadow
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link
― indie fuxxor albums i have secretly spotified (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:14 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah my priorities exposed here
― young thug squarepants (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link
wait there's a microwave beeping on the Grouper record? I need to give it another try
― example (crüt), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link
I was all enthusiastic about listening to mr twin sister despite their name bc of that tim f description but it fell very short. Pleasant enough whatevia I guess, in one ear and out the other, young galaxy without the songs?
Whoa at rtj2 placing so low!!!
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:16 (nine years ago) link
xxp nothin wrong with that!
― indie fuxxor albums i have secretly spotified (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:16 (nine years ago) link
it sounds exactly like my microwave too so its fucked me up so many times
― ciderpress, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:16 (nine years ago) link
Couldn't listen to this. didn't like the first one much either. don't want to do an imago here too much but something about the brutalist production seemed to make the very explicitly misogynist lyrics on that first one felt 10 times stronger. This record is just unrelenting bash-you-over-the-head EDM-hop that didn't agree with my ears at all.
― pig∞n (dog latin), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:16 (nine years ago) link
Run the Jewels is the Killer Mike/El-P collab, right? I thought "R.A.P. Music" was okay, but Mike's one-trick flow gets tiring after while, and El-P is still 10 times worse than him as a rapper, so I had no interest for this project.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:17 (nine years ago) link
rtj2 was okay, people seem to have soured on el-p as a producer but i still like him for the most part. idk about his rapping though, that's always been mildly embarrassing
― ciderpress, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:17 (nine years ago) link
lol ciderpress
― brain floss mix (sleeve), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:17 (nine years ago) link
Today has not been a good run for me so far. Hope the top ten delivers
― pig∞n (dog latin), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:17 (nine years ago) link
(for yr microwave post, not that new one)
I Pledge Allegiance To The Grind I+II >> R.A.P. Music >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Run The Jewels
― example (crüt), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:18 (nine years ago) link
I like El-P as a producer a lot, but I wish he was more like Flava Flav to Killer Mike's Chuck D instead of them getting equal time.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:18 (nine years ago) link
Hated the first RTJ record, but am tentatively warming up to this one. For the most part, though, these records, along with R.A.P. Music and the record that El-P released around that same time, prove for me that Mike's place is in front of the mic and El-P's is behind the mixing board.
― That shit right there is precedented. (cryptosicko), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:20 (nine years ago) link
Whatever El-P's vocal deficiencies, he writes great lyrics imo
― young thug squarepants (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:24 (nine years ago) link
if there's any str8-up misogyny on this album I will be deflated - let this be your challenge
whatever you think of him as a rapper, I feel like el-p has at least become indisputably better at it since teaming up with Killer Mike.
― intheblanks, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:28 (nine years ago) link
rtj is awful and if u like it ur a bad person
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:28 (nine years ago) link
elp has maybe the least sense of rhythm of anyone in the world
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:29 (nine years ago) link
less than a mormon dad dancing at a wedding
Never heard Grouper before, thought I might quite like it but found bit mundane/flat, wasn't very drawn in off the one track i played anyway.
Never heard run the jewels before either, I dont get this, its leaden and tiring
― saer, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:29 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/tnodWUV.jpg
12 CHARLI XCX Sucker [688 points, 21 votes, 3 first place votes]
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:30 (nine years ago) link
his lyrics are so cringely begging for someone anyone (louis) to think hes smart
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:30 (nine years ago) link
lol Mr Twin Sister is sitting in that pocket of "pretty unchallenging music" that I've been bitching about for the past 3-4 years but manages to evoke enough sophistipop echoes of Swing Out Sister for me to work (with emphasis on "echoes"; this is no direct Twilight World pastiche)
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:30 (nine years ago) link
what a sad end for killer mike
my fave rtj hot-take was from a non-ilx friend "man its ok but i can only listen to 40 year old men screaming about fuckboys for so long"
― gr8080, Friday, January 23, 2015 12:01 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― gr8080, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:31 (nine years ago) link
xp yeah being more successful than ever commercially and critically seems super shitty for michael render
― indie fuxxor albums i have secretly spotified (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:32 (nine years ago) link
Was hoping this would scrape the top 10. It was my number two. If' I'd had longer with it I would have probably put it at number one. Such a fantastic album all the way through. Loved True Romance but thought this was a big step up.
― Kitchen Person, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:33 (nine years ago) link
sucker is great, was my #5 or #6
― indie fuxxor albums i have secretly spotified (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:33 (nine years ago) link
Was hoping this would scrape the top 10
might have had more chance if it had been released in the UK yet
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:34 (nine years ago) link
― young thug squarepants (imago), Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:15 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is the oddest sentiment abt this album, like from whineys piece
If there were a Grammy for Most Creative Ways to Say "We're the Best" ("We might be giants standing on little dandy shoulders/You punks is pussy, proverbial pansy panty-holders") these guys would win it, or take it by gunpoint.
this is not fun or confident or burning or shit talky, this is some try hard bs
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:34 (nine years ago) link
I don't know about the lyrics of Run the Jewels, but Killer Mike's debut has one of the best pro-women rap tunes by a male rapper that I've heard:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6kbXLuzOuw
(Not that he'd be the first rapper to have made both anti-sexist and blatantly sexist songs, see 2Pac for example.)
― Tuomas, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:34 (nine years ago) link
The opener of Sucker is a blast but despite the undeniably catchy hooks I still feel like charli's not quite there, a lot of these songs rely on a rush of energy but end up being kinda lumpen? I was expecting it to grow on me but it failed both the Drunk On The Night Bus pop test and the workout test. Feel like she has greatness in her but it's like her major pop star ambitions work in the opposite way. I do not understand stanning for her
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:35 (nine years ago) link
if there's any str8-up misogyny on this album I will be deflated - let this be your challenge― young thug squarepants
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:37 (nine years ago) link
Proper pop.Just realised war on drugs may not place after all
Might get off my chair.
― sock (strychnine), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:38 (nine years ago) link
War on Drugs is absolutely going to place.
― Simon H., Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:39 (nine years ago) link
The notion of nitpicking RTJ2 for sexism/misogyny is ridic in light of other stuff that's placed.
― Simon H., Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:40 (nine years ago) link
Nah, WoD is in. But only one of Perfume Genius, Sharon von Etten, or The Juan McLean made it. We've snubbed Perfume Genius in tracks.
― The inscrutable savantism of (Sanpaku), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:40 (nine years ago) link
xp Agreed. People's expectations for Charli XCX must be really low if they think Sucker delivers.
― Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link
Remember, it's being done in order to make fun of LJ
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link
It's fun but I kept thinking of the Sky Ferreira album - they have some of the same collaborators - and Sucker doesn't touch it.
― Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:42 (nine years ago) link
I would pull some examples of lyrics from YOB, Electric Wizard, Mastodon, Wo Fat, Truckfighters, etc., but lyrics sites are notoriously riddled with malware and mostly blocked at work.
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:42 (nine years ago) link
i kind of think of RTJ as the ZOMBIES BACON of rap. lines like "we tell monsters to suck our dicks" and the "run naked backwards through a field of dicks" would have blown my mind and cracked me the f up circa age 13. i don't hate the album though, i love the "dick in the mouth all day" song. and while some of the beats knock ridically i find the sorta edm style just makes me imagine a horizon of tan white college bros in tank tops at some festival
mr twin sister is my album of the year that's actually an album. gr80 its insane that u haven't heard it you would love it. the whole thing's great but it's all about the centerpieces 'in the house of yes' and 'out of the dark.' kind of rare to hear an indie-ish album made by studio-level skilled musicians and they really take to the next level. i think the criticism u could level at it is that its so easily decomposable into its influences. max said sade sugarcubes which is kinda ridiculously on point. but it's a novel influence mix imo, and they just utterly nail it. best album i wouldn't have bothered checking out if it weren't for the ilm thread
― flopson, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:43 (nine years ago) link
those words are problematic sure but that is goofy spitballing compared to the other shit we've seen
charli xcx has her moments I guess /Marina grumble
― young thug squarepants (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:43 (nine years ago) link
war on drugs get off my chairwar on drugsget off my chair
― how's life, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:43 (nine years ago) link
To be honest, I was smitten with "Nuclear Seasons" and to a lesser extent "Stay Away", and the move from gothpop to more mainstream teen fare hasn't caught me in its wake.
― The inscrutable savantism of (Sanpaku), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:43 (nine years ago) link
'sucker' was disappointing to me, her placing ahead of so many other much worthier contenders is weird. feel like she lost something in her rush to be a megastar and collab w/iggy or whatever.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:44 (nine years ago) link
sanpaku otm
There is no such thing as lyric-driven metal. (xps)
― Simon H., Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:44 (nine years ago) link
2nd half of Mr Twin Sister is WAAAAAY more engaging than 1st half, huh
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:44 (nine years ago) link
Um, Iron Maiden?
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:45 (nine years ago) link
Is that what people are principally listening for?
― Simon H., Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:46 (nine years ago) link
Xp yeah I get why people like Sucker, it's likeable and it does its job, but in terms of creating a captivating pop persona a la Sky, Charli's still kind of...jobbing industry songwriter who'll try on whatever role in a businesslike way, but what's at stake in her aesthetic decisions? It's like jessie j but with much cooler style. Idk I think I'm nitpicking cuz I expect more, if this was by some rando debutante I'd probably be pleased enough with it.
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:46 (nine years ago) link
i guess i will finally remember to listen to sucker
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:46 (nine years ago) link
― The inscrutable savantism of (Sanpaku)
Juan Maclean will definitely make it. Almost all of the album was nominated and voted for in the tracks list. People didn't have a lot to say about the album but people still loved it.
― Kitchen Person, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:47 (nine years ago) link
Good news, DJP, the first half of Mr. Twin Sister was older, pre-crash & MS diagnosis material. The material being hewn into album #3 promises to be more uptempo.
― The inscrutable savantism of (Sanpaku), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:48 (nine years ago) link
Also yeah True Romance felt much closer to greatness than Sucker albeit not quite there either
I never paid attention to the Rtj2 lyrics but these quoted are all hilariously terrible
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:48 (nine years ago) link
Charli's still kind of...jobbing industry songwriter who'll try on whatever role in a businesslike way, but what's at stake in her aesthetic decisions? I
weird to read you getting into biographical crit. If the songs themselves are wobbly and indeterminate that's legitimate criticism, but the songs create the persona imo. It makes sense to me that on a second album she would sound like the people for whom she's writing.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:49 (nine years ago) link
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:44 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
not at all surprised that you prefer the second half!
― flopson, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:50 (nine years ago) link
the point of RTJ2's lyrics is definitely for them to be read on a computer screen
― Simon H., Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:50 (nine years ago) link
The lyrics on Crown and Early are in no way hilariously terrible fwiw
― Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:50 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/iT5xzjf.jpg
11 THE JUAN MACLEAN In a Dream [710 points, 25 votes, 1 first place vote]
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:51 (nine years ago) link
kind of rare to hear an indie-ish album made by studio-level skilled musicians
oh flopson...
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:51 (nine years ago) link
Snubbed almost everywhere but here. ILX comes good.
― Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:52 (nine years ago) link
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:51 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
...what?
― flopson, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:53 (nine years ago) link
TJM are basically ILM: the band and I'm cool w/ it
― Simon H., Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:53 (nine years ago) link
This is my favorite TJM album, and I had no idea it would come so far into their career.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:53 (nine years ago) link
this is album is good but not _that_ amazing but the song "A Place Called Space" is a 10/10 bangin' moroder space disco all time classic
― flopson, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:54 (nine years ago) link
Yes! Love this Juan Maclean album. Every song is brilliant.
Just realised I've voted for eight of the top twelve albums.
― Kitchen Person, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:54 (nine years ago) link
NickB are you saying it's common for indie albums to be played by studio-level skilled musicians?
― flopson, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:55 (nine years ago) link
Less John, more Nancy - the solution was there all along.
― Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:55 (nine years ago) link
i wasn't crazy about this album but it's still good & got a place on my ballot
― gr8080, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:55 (nine years ago) link
love the twinkly 'i can't go for that' keyboards on 'running back to you'
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:56 (nine years ago) link
i like nancy whang but we tend to overrate her tbh
― flopson, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:56 (nine years ago) link
Tried to get into this record--love its sound--but the songs never seemed to stick. I was at the mall a while back and heard Nancy Whang's voice and thought, "Ooooh, have to remember what Juan Maclean song this is." Shazaamed it to find out it was from that Classixx record last year.
― Indexed, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:56 (nine years ago) link
Do we tho? xp
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:57 (nine years ago) link
think it was rev who called "running back to you" nu-jones girls, which is very otm
― gr8080, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:57 (nine years ago) link
i should listen to the jones girls in that case
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:58 (nine years ago) link
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, January 29, 2015 5:49 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i guess what i'm saying is that charli xcx's songs all create the outline of a persona - in a very route-one way - but they don't fill it in to make it captivating, whether with bio or with non-bio.
yay juan maclean. "a simple design" is my second favourite after "a place called space"; i have v little to say about it apart from it's thoroughly enjoyable start to finish and has a perfect sense of timing
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:58 (nine years ago) link
xp i think so. she's a good fit for the dfa sound/aesthetic but has pretty glaring weaknesses as a vocalist
― flopson, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:58 (nine years ago) link
i don't think it's a particularly rare occurrence - i mean, there's still the owen pallett and st vincent albums to come in this poll for instance
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:59 (nine years ago) link
i agree she is pretty and glares a lot
― nashwan, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:00 (nine years ago) link
OTM!! start here imo
― gr8080, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:00 (nine years ago) link
Favored genre, band longevity, and a lack of outright duds outweighs the paucity of hooks. Own and like In a Dream, but its a lesser album than The Future Will Come or Less than Human.
― The inscrutable savantism of (Sanpaku), Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:01 (nine years ago) link
i like a lot of juan m music but not this album
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:05 (nine years ago) link
This was my #1. Just great all the way through. I'd say it's their best. Both other albums I tend to skip around a lot, but there really are no weak points on this one.
― silverfish, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:06 (nine years ago) link
Agreed.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:07 (nine years ago) link
Yeah I think it's their best too. Higher highs on The Future Will Come but overall found this a much more satisfying listen.
― Kitchen Person, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:07 (nine years ago) link
Who on earth are the Juan Mclean? I've never heard of them before.
― pig∞n (dog latin), Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:10 (nine years ago) link
You've been on ILM for how long and you've never seen anyone talk about The Juan Maclean?
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:11 (nine years ago) link
i've long wondered whether dog latin's regular protestations of ignorance on these threads are trolling and finally now i know
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:11 (nine years ago) link
What DL? I remember you from countless EOY polls, you must have heard them!
― pandemic, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:12 (nine years ago) link
never underestimate dog latin
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:12 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/4jj0H8r.jpg
10 TODD TERJE It's Album Time [812 points, 30 votes, 1 first place vote]
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:13 (nine years ago) link
it's album time, guys
― ciderpress, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:13 (nine years ago) link
Too low!
― Kitchen Person, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:14 (nine years ago) link
Nope never heard of them. Not once. are they like the Dandy Warhols?
― pig∞n (dog latin), Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:14 (nine years ago) link
oof it is NOT RIGHT that terje beat maclean!
doing your thing entirely as expected to the point of self-parody vs doing your thing entirely as expected to become your most essential
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:15 (nine years ago) link
more like Get Back To Remixing time imo
― nashwan, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:15 (nine years ago) link
oh shit i had a feeling it was album time
― gr8080, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:15 (nine years ago) link
Surprised It's Album Time placed so high. It wasn't quite the record I was hoping for. the best moments had already been heard before, the Bryan Ferry song sounded uncannily like a Future Islands song but with all the urgency removed, and much of the rest was pastichey loungey music that grated on multiple listenings.
― pig∞n (dog latin), Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:16 (nine years ago) link
sounds like you're describing 2 kinds of ilm eoy voters
― shit's obviously artisanal (Will M.), Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:16 (nine years ago) link
I was excited about this around the time I first heard it, but I can't remember the last time I wanted to hear it since then. My life has no space for a Terje album...just singles/eps.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:17 (nine years ago) link
In all seriousness, the Juan Mclean pop up so regularly on EOY that I'm amazed I've never really bothered to check them out. I think it's the ubiquity of their albums, or maybe I heard one song years ago that did nothing for me.
― pig∞n (dog latin), Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:18 (nine years ago) link
dog latin:
Happy House - the Juan Maclean
listen, learn, love
― brain floss mix (sleeve), Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:18 (nine years ago) link
Would have made a fine EP. Shaking my head that someone ranked it #1.
― The inscrutable savantism of (Sanpaku), Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:19 (nine years ago) link
― pig∞n (dog latin), Thursday, January 29, 2015 1:16 PM (40 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
When I'm not in the right mood I agree, yet when I am I love this record.
― Evan, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:19 (nine years ago) link
Love this album, it was my summer soundtrack.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:19 (nine years ago) link
The worst bits of It's Album Time remind me of comedy big beat stuff like Bentley Rhythm Ace or Mr Scruff or something.
― pig∞n (dog latin), Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:21 (nine years ago) link
Sorry Sanpaku, this was my number one. I can see why some people were disappointed but it was everything I wanted it to be. Apart from Inspector Norse I don't think we'd already heard all the best songs.
― Kitchen Person, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:21 (nine years ago) link
The Terje was great fun, slipped off the end of my final ballot but it made me smile a lot last year.
― All The Craigers Gonna Craig Craig Craig Craig Craig (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:21 (nine years ago) link
ugh mr scruff
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:21 (nine years ago) link
what is the 70s library tune that he liberally borrowed from for "Preben Goes to Acapulco"? b/c someone pointed that out to me once and I can't find the song anymore and "Preben Goes to Acapulco" is my jam
― example (crüt), Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:22 (nine years ago) link
The (several) highs on the Terje album blow anything on the Juan Maclean album away but it's such a cut-and-shunt job taken as a whole, and I'm really not keen on the corny first third or so. The Juan Maclean is just consistently pretty good without getting anywhere near their peak
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:22 (nine years ago) link
i thought 'preben' sounded a bit like 'solstice' by brian bennett
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:25 (nine years ago) link
that's it! thank you
― example (crüt), Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:26 (nine years ago) link
http://media.giphy.com/media/iGGHjzCxell2o/giphy.gif
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:28 (nine years ago) link
I love the second half of Sucker. I often just start the album from 'Body of My Own'. Not so keen on 'Break The Rules' or 'Boom Clap' in the first half- feel like they ruin the flow a bit.
― cajunsunday, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:30 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/P9J8t64.jpg
9 ST. VINCENT St. Vincent [822 points, 28 votes, 1 first place vote]
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:35 (nine years ago) link
"body of my own" is def as close as sucker gets to greatness
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:35 (nine years ago) link
i'm not wild about the "i'm a BAD GIRL and i will NOT eat my vegetables!" schtick on a lot of Charli XCX songs but the other songs are pretty great
― some dude, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:35 (nine years ago) link
here you go http://www.allmusic.com/album/maritime-mw0000313460
now stop trying to make "twiggy" happen
― Number None, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:36 (nine years ago) link
So, if Owen Pallett is next that's my top five in a row.
― Kitchen Person, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:36 (nine years ago) link
― Number None, Thursday, January 29, 2015 6:36 PM (2 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Amen
― pandemic, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:37 (nine years ago) link
lol im feelin "twiggy" kiu
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:37 (nine years ago) link
ok-to-good shall prevail. not her best imo, but better than the previous. need to relisten.
― young thug squarepants (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:38 (nine years ago) link
i still listen to that minotaur shock record, its nice. he has a more recent one called 'orchard' that's also very good
― ciderpress, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:38 (nine years ago) link
can't see the wood for the arboreal themes
D'Angelofka TwigsAphex TwinTaylor SwiftTinasheOwen PallettYGThe War on Drugs
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:39 (nine years ago) link
Need Ur Love is my highlight on Sucker. I've had that song going round in my head every single day since I've heard it.
― Kitchen Person, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:39 (nine years ago) link
No spoilers!
― cajunsunday, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:39 (nine years ago) link
CROZ
― gr8080, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:40 (nine years ago) link
st vincent just reminded me of midnite vultures and i had turn it off
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:40 (nine years ago) link
croz
― ciderpress, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:41 (nine years ago) link
idg st vincent but i feel like i should love her
― Mordy, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:41 (nine years ago) link
see her live
― gr8080, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:42 (nine years ago) link
Actor is still my favourite but St Vincent came close. She's had such an incredible start to her career.
― Kitchen Person, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:42 (nine years ago) link
― Mordy, Thursday, January 29, 2015 1:41 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I wish I could but I'm totally unmoved by her music.
― Evan, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:43 (nine years ago) link
Only thing I remember about "Actor" is that one song reminded me of Clearlake.
― Evan, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:44 (nine years ago) link
st vincent seems like it was made by a critic tricking algorithm, same one that made dirty projectors
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:44 (nine years ago) link
hahaha
― brain floss mix (sleeve), Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:45 (nine years ago) link
I like St. Vincent but her long ago association with the Polyphonic Spree is a taint I find hard to overcome.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:45 (nine years ago) link
my favorite part of this record is that sonar-ping keyboard melody on 'i prefer your love'
― ciderpress, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:45 (nine years ago) link
The Juan Maclean album is the first one to pass my new (post laptop acquisition) test, i.e. sounded so good on Spotify I bought the CD.
Like the Todd Terje a lot but agree with Matt DC upthread. I *think* I voted it for it but just possible I omitted it to give something else a bit of love.
Can't see myself bothering with St Vincent any time soon. The track that placed this year was OK but hardly an advert for greatness.
Just realised the Guy Gerber & Puff Daddy LP is not going to place :(
― Jeff W, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:47 (nine years ago) link
I find her a bit too restrained. Actor her best as it lets go a little more. Critic tricking algorithm kinda otm - she's better than that, but errs on the safe side too often. This album is cool but not mindblowing imo
― young thug squarepants (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:47 (nine years ago) link
She is capable of greatness, still, I think
― young thug squarepants (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:48 (nine years ago) link
― Jeff W, Thursday, January 29, 2015 1:47 PM (40 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
its for patient motherfuckers only (shrug)
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:48 (nine years ago) link
Thought the St Vincent would be higher. It's a beautiful record and I think it might have been my number 1(?) If anything because my favourite track on it kept changing until I realised I loved the whole thing. Serious live performer too
― pig∞n (dog latin), Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:48 (nine years ago) link
― lag∞n, Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:44 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
david byrne tricking, too
― Indexed, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:49 (nine years ago) link
I find that the weird-ish tics in her music feel forced and I'd like her to be either more conventional or totally out there and she's neither. I actually like the quieter more restrained moments on here more than the big singles.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:49 (nine years ago) link
i think i need more of a vocal performance from her, or more stunning lyrics, for her shtick to work for me - like i just can't imagine a moment where i'd rather listen to her over angel olsen (not that they're nearly the same really but that comparison probably reveals my bias against vincent's kinda robotic / alienating persona)
― Mordy, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:49 (nine years ago) link
"i'm a BAD GIRL and i will NOT eat my vegetables!"
for a second I thought this was in reference to St Vincent and it still works
― Simon H., Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:50 (nine years ago) link
― Indexed, Thursday, January 29, 2015 1:49 PM (38 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
well yeah it is overtly in the byrne-zone
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:50 (nine years ago) link
tbf lots of stuff tricks David Byrne these days.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:51 (nine years ago) link
xpost Croz is a good album. Not enough lyrics about fuck boys to interest modern listeners tho
― ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:51 (nine years ago) link
its the throw back listeners who like the fuck boi lyrics tbf
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:57 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/c2TqaA0.jpg
8 THE WAR ON DRUGS Lost in the Dream [925 points, 26 votes, 4 first place votes]
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:57 (nine years ago) link
more like war on interesting music
― ienjoyhotdogs, Friday, May 2, 2014 12:15 PM (8 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― ciderpress, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:57 (nine years ago) link
4 people need to hear better records.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:58 (nine years ago) link
^this xp
― young thug squarepants (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:58 (nine years ago) link
(i am one of the 4)
― ciderpress, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:58 (nine years ago) link
i genuinely had hopes this would fail to place and we'd get a surprise in here :(
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:59 (nine years ago) link
1-2 has to be owen pallett & YG.
― ||||||||, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:59 (nine years ago) link
get it all out people
― indie fuxxor albums i have secretly spotified (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:59 (nine years ago) link
how is the war on drugs better than HONEST
― nose, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:59 (nine years ago) link
Your dad would love the WOD
― Indexed, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:00 (nine years ago) link
I should probably give this another try
― Simon H., Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:00 (nine years ago) link
my mom loves the WOD album
― Mordy, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:00 (nine years ago) link
good album.
― gr8080, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:01 (nine years ago) link
i mean i've groused to varying extents about like...the majority of the top 20 so far but each and every one of them is so obviously so much worthier of recognition than this dull dull dull gristly meat and overdone potatoes rock
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:01 (nine years ago) link
hurrr
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:02 (nine years ago) link
I don't think ILM will recover from this epic mistake. The War on Drugs' tedious, besotted, dull as ditch water excuse for an album in the top ten.
RIP ILM
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:02 (nine years ago) link
good record
― Ratt in Mi Kitchen (Neil S), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:02 (nine years ago) link
No one who likes rae sremmub can criticize War on Drugs.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:03 (nine years ago) link
Lex OTM!!
I'd never thought I'd say that, and pray to god I never have to again. The damage that frikking War on Drugs is doing...
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:04 (nine years ago) link
A pox on both your houses.
― The inscrutable savantism of (Sanpaku), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:04 (nine years ago) link
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Thursday, January 29, 2015 2:02 PM (47 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I've been told that everyone has 20 minutes to clear out, and the rest of the countdown has been canceled. good luck and may god have mercy on our souls.
― some dude, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:04 (nine years ago) link
what about if you like rae sremmurd?
xxxp
― pandemic, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:04 (nine years ago) link
aw this isn't that bad, just too high/overrated
― brain floss mix (sleeve), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:04 (nine years ago) link
― example (crüt), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:05 (nine years ago) link
"red eyes" is a decent song, but for one particular reason...it's short, unlike almost. every. other. fucking. song. on. the. album.
― indie fuxxor albums i have secretly spotified (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:05 (nine years ago) link
ilm revealed to contain Guitar Rock Likers
― ciderpress, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:05 (nine years ago) link
can we cut and paste remarks from singles thread?
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:05 (nine years ago) link
Roughly 1 in 5 or 6 voters had it on their ballot. Just deal with it.
― pandemic, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:05 (nine years ago) link
one of my favorite shows of all time was seeing these guys open up for destroyer during the kaputt tour
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:05 (nine years ago) link
guessing that Amory is also in the Wod Four
― young thug squarepants (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:05 (nine years ago) link
2014's Dire Straits?
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:06 (nine years ago) link
sorry to interrupt.
i saw swans back on the children of god tour (my ears my ears), and i have always wondered if he still does this.
brilliant.
back to catching up.
nothing i enjoyed in 2014 has appeared (i never vote in these as i feel i do not listen to enough to new music to make an informed decision), but that does not stop me from soaking all of this up.
― mark e, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:07 (nine years ago) link
Ah! So that explains it.
19 minutes and counting...
― Jeff W, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:07 (nine years ago) link
For stats' sake, there were 142 ballots in the albums poll.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:07 (nine years ago) link
― pandemic
I question all judgments you may have about music. I'm not a fan of this War On Drugs record, but I can see it's appeal to people. Which is something I can't say about rae sremmub.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:08 (nine years ago) link
WOD is pretty good to listen while stoned (lol what isn't)
― Mordy, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:08 (nine years ago) link
I admire your persistence and I lolled but I don't think "rae sremmub" is going to happen ;_;
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:09 (nine years ago) link
I know. But I try. Either that or "rae sreredrum". I can't decide which.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:11 (nine years ago) link
There hasn't been anything on the list so far I can't see the appeal of tbh
― Simon H., Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:11 (nine years ago) link
you'll be delighted next year when the album is top tenxp
― pandemic, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:12 (nine years ago) link
High rankings on best-of-year lists everywhere prompted me to listen to the St. Vincent album repeatedly. Still does nothing for me.
I would have voted for the Croz album had it been nominated. Likewise Joan as Police Woman.
Still several I voted for I was sure would place that haven't shown up yet, but also didn't think they'd place this high, so have no idea what to expect....
― Lee626, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:12 (nine years ago) link
xpost agree with EZ Snappin, Rae Sremmurd more cringeworthy and embarrasing than WoD
― Stig of the sanctimonious uncontextualized linkdump (Michael B), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:12 (nine years ago) link
Pretty surprised that it looks like Flying Lotus won't place at all.
― klonman, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:13 (nine years ago) link
sometimes laying around and being lazy and doing nothing can be great. it's no way to live your life but it can often be the best way to spend your day. that's pretty much how I break WoD down to an extent.
― gr8080, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:13 (nine years ago) link
I know, pandemic. I know. *sigh*
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:13 (nine years ago) link
neither are embarrassing or cringe worthy, they're just records
― pandemic, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:14 (nine years ago) link
i would be surprised to see sremm make top ten in 2015 but anything's possible
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:14 (nine years ago) link
Listening to Croz right now because why not. His voice is still pretty great for the life he's lived, huh?
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:15 (nine years ago) link
Man I had no idea the Juan Maclean album was supposed to be so great! I spent most of my time on the Shit Robot album instead I guess. That one was super awesome too.
― Jennifer 8.-( (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:15 (nine years ago) link
Just finished the Juan Maclean album, v enjoyable.
― pandemic, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:17 (nine years ago) link
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Thursday, January 29, 2015 7:14 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
most of the reaction to sremmlife has been "exceeded expectations, which were already high". 12 months is a long time but i don't think january releases have suffered unduly before
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:18 (nine years ago) link
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, January 29, 2015 2:15 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Still being alive is pretty great for the life he's lived....
― Lee626, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:18 (nine years ago) link
(albeit on his second liver)
though this january has been the best january i can recall EVER for new music so i'm hoping that people's memories are long for next year
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:19 (nine years ago) link
lol yeah xps
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:19 (nine years ago) link
I've only ever heard WoD when a friend takes me out to a restaurant that has single squiggly filament bare bulbs and giant oak tables and "hen of the woods" on the menu. They play the entire album one repeat. I've heard it three times in that environment and it is virtually indistinguishable to my ears from the Wilco that I used to hear in that environment. There's a cool song that sounds like a Silver Apples rip and I sing Silver Apples along to it. The rest of it sounds like Tom Petty and like all generic indie it seems extremely inoffensive and super-functional, I mean, it does go well with "hen of the woods". But with all generic indie it seems that the metric in which it is measured is 'competence' instead of 'genius', like, "no no this is in fact the Most Competent album by The New Pronographers" but I cannot fathom anybody getting either super-excited or super-pissed off about it, both sides of the fence are alien to me. Sounds good when a friend is buying you a hangar steak, that's pretty much how I break WoD down to an extent.
― sonny and sber (fgti), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:19 (nine years ago) link
as someone who's been on board with wod since the beginning i'm still mystified that this record is getting the attention it is, since it's more or less the third time they've made the same record
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:21 (nine years ago) link
excellent post fgti
we call it "chicken of the woods" here in the PacNW
― brain floss mix (sleeve), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:21 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/rMeUeq2.jpg
7 YG My Krazy Life [1,004 points, 32 votes, 2 first place votes]
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:22 (nine years ago) link
they got it right this time tho
― ciderpress, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:22 (nine years ago) link
wait they literally have a menu item called "hen of the woods"?
― Jennifer 8.-( (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:22 (nine years ago) link
WOD is what people who don't listen to Wilco think Wilco sound like? Tom Petty, Dire Straits, Springsteen, yes. Wilco, no.
― Indexed, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:22 (nine years ago) link
Third time's the charm apparently!
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:23 (nine years ago) link
"Hen of the woods" is a kind of mushroom, and I have hot takes for miles but I'm too shy to post them, I wrote two paragraphs on Kiesza's reverb settings, who wants to read that? nobody.
― sonny and sber (fgti), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:24 (nine years ago) link
i can tell this YG album is great but it's so clearly not for me
― Mordy, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:24 (nine years ago) link
fgti relax you beat them
― young thug squarepants (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:24 (nine years ago) link
I don't mind hearing some WoD now and then, just like I don't mind a bit of early Dire Straits once in a while. But I think a lot of us are at a loss as to why it's rated so high (top 10 here, #3 Pazz n Jop).
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:24 (nine years ago) link
The opening four or five tracks here are just fire, you just have to sit up and take notice.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:24 (nine years ago) link
Voted this. Love this.
― pandemic, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:24 (nine years ago) link
32 votes, damn
Couldn't get into this for some reason
― Simon H., Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:25 (nine years ago) link
I mean 'Bicken Back Being Bool'!!
― pandemic, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:26 (nine years ago) link
such a great album
my favourite non-obvious track from this was one of the bonus tracks! "459" is so so amazing, natasha mosley with a pretty haunting hook there
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:27 (nine years ago) link
i was one of the #1 votes :)
― some dude, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:27 (nine years ago) link
this is mostly accurate, but there's enough of a place for music like that in my life that this album did end up somewhere in the lower spots on my ballot.
Like I don't get super excited about WoD but end up listening to it a bunch because it just fits well in many situations.
I voted for it somewhere in the lower parts of my ballot.
― silverfish, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:27 (nine years ago) link
kinda surprised YG didnt make the top 5, it is indeed incredible
― indie fuxxor albums i have secretly spotified (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:28 (nine years ago) link
i have all the time in the world for fgti reverb discussion.
― how's life, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:29 (nine years ago) link
I wrote two paragraphs on Kiesza's reverb settings, who wants to read that? nobody.
i'd sincerely like to hear your thoughts on this tbh
― example (crüt), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:29 (nine years ago) link
^srsly
Could I get anything out of YG? Would revulsion overcome literary merit?
― young thug squarepants (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:30 (nine years ago) link
lol girl I trippin, p sure most ppl wd want to read this
― Jennifer 8.-( (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:30 (nine years ago) link
Ban imago from rap records
― 龜, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:31 (nine years ago) link
got burnt out on this album but i'm prime to revisit it
― gr8080, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:32 (nine years ago) link
idk imago what are your thoughts on "My dick work girl, I don't need no mic check, no panties on I can see your pussy through that white dress."
― Mordy, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:32 (nine years ago) link
elaborate dissections of oft-overlooked minutiae are a crucial and beloved component of yr discernible posting style imo
― Jennifer 8.-( (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:32 (nine years ago) link
hot or not?
no
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:33 (nine years ago) link
xp Glad there's a place for it, it drives my friends crazy
― sonny and sber (fgti), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:33 (nine years ago) link
Cmon, explain why this is good!
Oh, his penis works, and so do his eyes. That's nice.
― young thug squarepants (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:33 (nine years ago) link
i mean, dnftt
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:34 (nine years ago) link
It's trolls feeding trolls from where I stand
― 龜, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:34 (nine years ago) link
trolls all the way down
― Mordy, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:35 (nine years ago) link
enjoying this YG album so far, production is great. reminds me of classic gangsta rap albums like 'doggystyle'
― Stig of the sanctimonious uncontextualized linkdump (Michael B), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:36 (nine years ago) link
Let's all just be smug about how much more liberal and progressive we are than black people who grew up in deprived circumstances.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:36 (nine years ago) link
ouch
― ||||||||, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:36 (nine years ago) link
lol matt dc that's the trolliest thing posted yet
― Mordy, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:36 (nine years ago) link
uh oh
― young thug squarepants (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:37 (nine years ago) link
ooook I'll be checking back in after the countdown is through
― Simon H., Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:37 (nine years ago) link
still accurate
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:38 (nine years ago) link
Do we have these conversations every year when rap albums place or is this year special? Because y'all are acting like dummies.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:39 (nine years ago) link
(Matt's comment, I mean)
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:39 (nine years ago) link
really be / 1 am / sorry momma / bicken back are all A+ tracks
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:39 (nine years ago) link
think its time to bow out here
― Get Ducked (Cosmic Slop), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:39 (nine years ago) link
just a great combination of YG's massive personality coupled to a producer at the top of his game. perfect storm really
― ||||||||, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:42 (nine years ago) link
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:59 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
hmm idk i guess those are 2 exceptions. i haven't listened to st v so i don't know how skilled the playing on it is, what i've heard of hers was just quirky indie pop tho. indie is not really a sick chops genre though, it grew out of the jangly halfassed post-punk tradition & even if some acts have shed that attitude and make slick music it doesn't necessarily mean their playing is at such a high level. the twin sis album sounds extra studio-skilled because of the style they play, though
― flopson, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:42 (nine years ago) link
matt dc otm
― flopson, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:43 (nine years ago) link
flopson, StV is a legitimately talented guitarist--must see her live to appreciate her chops
― Indexed, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:44 (nine years ago) link
personally speaking i don't feel smug towards YG. i think he's obv a force of nature in terms of his personality + charisma and his songs are brilliant. but bc of my rarified hoity-toity cultural background i can't really play any of the songs off this album in front of ppl w/out offending delicate upper class sensibilities so i don't really get to enjoy it very much. fwiw i do think that white dress line is kinda hot idk. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― Mordy, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:45 (nine years ago) link
If I stay too long in Canada, I'll hear something like Bobby Schmurda and feel like I can't turn off my moral compass, lib feelings like "I understand that it's impossible to fully extract gun culture from all of American art but this is too much for me #Ferguson". But then I come back to the States and it's maybe on the second or third rest stop in rural upstate New York that I hear a white gas station attendant grumbling about the "n****r work" she's doing as she's mopping up spilled coffee and I basically shut my mind off, forget that I'm a faggot and press play on all rap
― sonny and sber (fgti), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:46 (nine years ago) link
i've seen st. v live at least twice, it ain't for everyone
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:46 (nine years ago) link
have read and loved plenty of books containing unconscionable shit, on a par with or worse than some of rap's more objectionable perspectives
― ||||||||, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:46 (nine years ago) link
I'd be very frustrated if Aphex won, but I doubt he will. My bets are on #6― diss strychnine (dog latin), Monday, January 26, 2015 3:54 PM (3 days ago)
― diss strychnine (dog latin), Monday, January 26, 2015 3:54 PM (3 days ago)
http://i.imgur.com/APFNYbW.jpg
6 APHEX TWIN Syro [1,035 points, 43 votes, 2 first place votes]
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:47 (nine years ago) link
::wrings hands about problematic Aphex Twins lyrics::
― some dude, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:48 (nine years ago) link
lol we could talk about the Windowlicker video if you want
― rob, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:48 (nine years ago) link
I was gonna say
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:49 (nine years ago) link
or his prior use of the c-word.
― how's life, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:49 (nine years ago) link
c-word? crut?
― Get Ducked (Cosmic Slop), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:50 (nine years ago) link
There are lots of lines on that album I wish didn't exist but the combination of YG and Mustard together is just electric on a purely musical level. A track like Left/Right is one of the most exciting noises I heard last year.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:50 (nine years ago) link
actually there was some chatter about a problematic sample on this one
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:50 (nine years ago) link
I would like some milk from the milkman's wife's tits
― The inscrutable savantism of (Sanpaku), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:50 (nine years ago) link
id like taylor to win but i think dangelo will
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:51 (nine years ago) link
was that boards of canada album '14 or '13?
― gr8080, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:51 (nine years ago) link
haha nobody remembers
― brain floss mix (sleeve), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:51 (nine years ago) link
"Left right" is probably the greatest thing i heard all year
― brimstead, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:51 (nine years ago) link
2013
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:51 (nine years ago) link
boc placed in the top 20 last year
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:52 (nine years ago) link
― Matt DC, Thursday, January 29, 2015 1:36 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
well that and let's be get all queasy and handwringy about songs written for a club environment where people are upfront about wanting to fuck
i've never liked mustard much tho :(
― goole, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:52 (nine years ago) link
I believe the problematic tune that I can't play to my liberal friends is "Produk 29 [101]"
― The inscrutable savantism of (Sanpaku), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:52 (nine years ago) link
goon tie for #1
― cajunsunday, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:53 (nine years ago) link
"she like the duk"
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:53 (nine years ago) link
ppl using dire straits as generic dad rock stand in smh they sound nothing like the WOD and are so >>>>>>
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:54 (nine years ago) link
For most of this year I thought my interest in techno had faded but Syro is pretty much the album that reignited my love for it, I just caned so many mixes new and old from September onwards. Just such a gorgeous, playful, endlessly involving record. It's not as good as his best ones, but it's better than a lot of electronic releases from this year.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:55 (nine years ago) link
imago riding a feminist high horse after this unremarked-upon post in the tracks thread has been v entertaining:
Love for the Gs in the endsWe don't love no girls in the endsLast time I fell in love with a sketBut trust me, I will never do that againUrban Dictionary: sketwww.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sketDefinition of a young girl late teens or 20's who sleeps around willingly and without worry.so he's a ho-shaming cunt as well? hate this now
Urban Dictionary: sketwww.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sketDefinition of a young girl late teens or 20's who sleeps around willingly and without worry.
so he's a ho-shaming cunt as well? hate this now
I know UK passports come with a special dispensation from the queen pardoning you of any misogynistic intent while using that word, but so much lol at this
― rob, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:55 (nine years ago) link
kidzbop take on "Produk 29 [101]" is classic
― gr8080, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:55 (nine years ago) link
dire straits are legendary, dire gr8s imo
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:55 (nine years ago) link
really need to get the WoD album
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:56 (nine years ago) link
one day i might listen to aphex twin, blue nile, all these old canonical acts that seem to belong a few decades ago
one day
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:56 (nine years ago) link
― sonny and sber (fgti), Thursday, January 29, 2015 2:19 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
props to the cute & evocative framing of this post but i think i disagree with the point. i relate to the feeling but i distrust it. like, does genius have to be controversial? does it have to make people super excited or super pissed? it's an album of slow paced rock songs, i don't think the intended effect was to make people flip over tables or shave WoD into the sides of their heads. but i think an album of amazing slow paced rock songs can be genius (even if this one is not). i think this use of "competence" is kind of condescending. the first new pornographers album is definitely a work of genius imo. but it's... also competent?
― flopson, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:57 (nine years ago) link
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, January 29, 2015 2:55 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:57 (nine years ago) link
I love that shopping @ mid-market fashion stores and bougie restaurants have become so entwined with music discussion for these polls
― 龜, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:58 (nine years ago) link
I just want to know how to keep it real at the j crew outlet store
― rob, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:59 (nine years ago) link
fgti, I just think that there's a tipping point beyond which regardless of background, certain macho codes become repulsive - perhaps that is personal aesthetic - certainly I let problematic stuff go if it isn't too emphatic. I would have to listen to YG before deciding if it's too much for my obviously so goddamn effete tastes (n.b. I like, say, Foetus, but he's playing the part of evil - is YG? If it's an act I could see a defence of it - I could see a purpose for it.)
I have no wish to restrict expression. YG can tell his stories, I don't care. But if I pick up attitudes I can't stomach, it's just so sad coz he's clearly talented and capable in the struggle to overcome the evils of institutionalised racism and racialLy-enforced poverty.
I'm really trying to engage here. Please don't rip me to bits.
― young thug squarepants (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:00 (nine years ago) link
where we publicly happen upon the music we hear is obviously as important as the content of the music itself. also the band name (see: spoon)
― Indexed, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:00 (nine years ago) link
xp: maybe don't say incredibly fucking stupid things, then
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:01 (nine years ago) link
hey imago just because you have opinions about every piece of music you hear doesn't mean all said opinions are worth a shit
― brimstead, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:04 (nine years ago) link
Before someone hoists themselves on their own petard:
Save us Johnny Fever!
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:05 (nine years ago) link
there's nothing wrong with saying the misogynistic or aggro lyrics make u queasy its just you chose to go about it by adopting a tut-tutting tone
― flopson, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:05 (nine years ago) link
like your attempt to morally justify your repulsion & implicate the ppl who like it
― flopson, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:06 (nine years ago) link
Personally, I think you're all racists.
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:06 (nine years ago) link
the whole omniscient "i can accurately objectively judge every song i hear" thing is not annoying at all
― brimstead, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:06 (nine years ago) link
― flopson, Thursday, January 29, 2015 8:05 PM (35 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yup and as though they're brand new valuable insights, completely ignorant of the conversations rap fans have been having about these subjects for so long now
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:06 (nine years ago) link
Imago, the problem is not that you're repulsed. Lots of people including people who actually love rap music are repulsed by some of the attitudes contained within it and grapple with that contradiction constantly, including vocally on a shedload of rap threads. So it's galling for someone to come in with zero contextual awareness and say things along the lines of 'you lot will forgive anything if there's a good beat' or 'how can anyone defend this?' when most people here aren't interested in validating or defending anything of the sort.
Everyone has a line they draw wrt repellant lyrics and sentiments and I wouldn't judge anyone for drawing that line way before the YG album, but maybe don't make it sound so much like you're the only one speaking truth to power every time you comment on it?
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:06 (nine years ago) link
my main problems w louis feminism itt isnt the moral high horsing so much as its typical entry level male feministing, like using gendered insults in yr violent power fantasies is nbd but gnarly sexual come ons are the height of offense, sry for piling on louis i support yr right to free speech btw!
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:09 (nine years ago) link
Can't save anyone right now. I'm at lunch.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:10 (nine years ago) link
:/
― young thug squarepants (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:11 (nine years ago) link
http://imoviequotes.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/2-Election-quotes.gif
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:11 (nine years ago) link
― Stig of the sanctimonious uncontextualized linkdump (Michael B), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:12 (nine years ago) link
No matter who wins we all lost.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:12 (nine years ago) link
― gr8080, Thursday, January 29, 2015 9:57 AM Bookmark
Mary Jane Girls iirc, but that works too
― The Reverend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:13 (nine years ago) link
how is it 2015 and we're still having the most entry level discussions with louis
is time meaningless? does it exist?
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:14 (nine years ago) link
yes, no
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:14 (nine years ago) link
there is no time, there is only album time
― ciderpress, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:15 (nine years ago) link
My Krazy Life was my #1.
Karry on.
― quan voice (voodoo chili), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:15 (nine years ago) link
Time is a flat circle
― 龜, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:16 (nine years ago) link
https://twitter.com/reverenddollars/status/482029158097092608 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― The Reverend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:16 (nine years ago) link
my krazy life never really clicked with me but i love the throwback alt title spelling very kool
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:16 (nine years ago) link
I notice ur p much all male too, btw
― Why? Gee! (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:17 (nine years ago) link
Save us, Mr. Fever.
― The inscrutable savantism of (Sanpaku), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:17 (nine years ago) link
[prays for lunch to end]
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:18 (nine years ago) link
We're all too far gone for salvation.
― Tay-Tay Brooklynpants (Murgatroid), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:18 (nine years ago) link
wtf?
― pandemic, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:18 (nine years ago) link
I was really excited to hear some epic Knopfler/Clapton solos on the War on Drugs album (preferably over synth pads) but it never really happened.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:20 (nine years ago) link
Sund4r otm
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:21 (nine years ago) link
the solo on 'suffering' is more Talk Talk than any of the other mentioned touchstones
― ciderpress, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:22 (nine years ago) link
This liberal handwringing shit is worse when it comes to country music. Like, did someone up thread say they couldn't get through a lee Ann Womack song bc she was singing about Jesus?!?! I get that like pro war Toby Keith songs would rub you the wrong way, but way too much cultural/ideological baggage is be brought to these songs. Sometimes it's just people singing about their life which is why the Womack and YG albums were 2 of my favorites this yr
― Heez, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:23 (nine years ago) link
i love when ppl sing abt jesus
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:24 (nine years ago) link
louis it's not that you're male and therefore have nothing insightful to add (though that's part of it), it's your constant posturing and (and lagoon says) entry-level understanding of the issues, like as someone who has embarrassed himself in front of ILX on these and related issues however many hundreds of times, it's weird to see you attempt to position yourself as some sort of moral authority on the topic, idk if you crave ILX's OTMs, or the approval of your girlfriend who seems to be reading all your posts or whatever, but just fall back man
― k3vin k., Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:24 (nine years ago) link
― Heez, Thursday, January 29, 2015 2:23 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This.
― Indexed, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:24 (nine years ago) link
https://twitter.com/dril/status/26334898832
― ciderpress, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:25 (nine years ago) link
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:25 (nine years ago) link
― flopson, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:25 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/ggKkZiG.jpg
5 TINASHE Aquarius [1,101 points, 35 votes, 1 first place vote]
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:26 (nine years ago) link
thank you based johnny fever
― indie fuxxor albums i have secretly spotified (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:27 (nine years ago) link
Mark Knopfler was pretty macho
― Dinsdale, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:27 (nine years ago) link
(also whoooooo this album is great & i might not've discovered it if not for ILX)
Man I thought '2 on' was nice when it was on the radio but had no idea it and the album were such ILX faves
― 龜, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:27 (nine years ago) link
Tinashe - Aquarius (out October 7 2014)
This thread has like 3 posts in it
― 龜, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:28 (nine years ago) link
aquarius is one of my favourite album arts of recent memory
― flopson, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:28 (nine years ago) link
That's one of the few albums I've heard that makes floaty vaguely psychedelic sad submarine Ecco the Dolphin R&B actually seem like a good idea.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:28 (nine years ago) link
i was really out of the loops wrt to albums r&b especially toward the end of the year, had no idea that tinashe's album was this loved ("2 on" is incredible obv), will have to check it out
― k3vin k., Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:28 (nine years ago) link
― Matt DC, Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:28 PM (10 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yup. even lex likes it
― flopson, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:29 (nine years ago) link
This album is so good. I was surprised. Prob my most-listened to album of the year. I've been burnt by pleasant, dreamy rnb hypes with no songs to back it up enough times. This album's got songs and grit and really great vocal performances. Gets physical. So many ideas and she's seemingly only scratching surface. Almost more surprisingly the mixtapes are pretty great as well, but the album tops it.
― abcfsk, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:31 (nine years ago) link
gorgeous album, tons of really awesome production details. "2 on" and "all hands on deck" made me crave more mustardwave bangerz but the rest of the album was so quality that it didn't matter. "indigo child" and "far side of the moon" >>>>>>>>
tinashe's vocals are on point throughout too, she's PRESENT in a way that many indie-r&b singers aren't
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:31 (nine years ago) link
I seriously underestimated ILX's Tinashe love.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:32 (nine years ago) link
it goes back to what i said about charli xcx's songs sketching the outline of a character but not filling it in - so much indie-r&b does that. tinashe fills it in beyond the positioning and beyond the predictable aesthetic package
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:33 (nine years ago) link
This album showed up with perfect timing by the way, like dropping a serene waterfall scene full of unicorns in the middle of a war zone.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:33 (nine years ago) link
mmmm waterfalls
― brain floss mix (sleeve), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:34 (nine years ago) link
If I'm reading Matt DC right this album is #seapunk&B? Nice, will listen to in full
― 龜, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:34 (nine years ago) link
Nobody fucking voted for this terrific album in P&J except Chris Randle
― sonny and sber (fgti), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:35 (nine years ago) link
Except that probably wouldn't be very productive because both sides would probably just end up inadvertently gunning down all the unicorns but what the hell it's working here.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:35 (nine years ago) link
need 2 listen 2 this
― ciderpress, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:36 (nine years ago) link
Oh weird that is actually not true. Why have I been frustratedly walking around with that non-fact in my head.
― sonny and sber (fgti), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:36 (nine years ago) link
yeah this rules.
― cajunsunday, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:36 (nine years ago) link
a unicorn playing echo the dolphin whilst getting 2 on
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:37 (nine years ago) link
feeling pretty on point here
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:37 (nine years ago) link
er, here:
D'Angelofka TwigsAphex TwinTaylor SwiftTinasheOwen PallettYGThe War on Drugs― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Thursday, January 29, 2015 6:39 PM (1 hour ago)
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Thursday, January 29, 2015 6:39 PM (1 hour ago)
as others have said, this album can take a while to grow on you, which is why the thread isn't that lively. it's brilliant though. "Cold Sweat" has become my favorite lately. usually not that interested in songs about being famous/the struggle to become a star, but that one has an element of lived-in realism to it that makes it shine. prob helps to know she was on a tv show with charlie sheen a few times.
― rob, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:38 (nine years ago) link
― Matt DC, Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:28 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm. didn't expect to like it beyond "2 On" given how people talked about her mixtapes but the whole thing holds together really well.
― some dude, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:38 (nine years ago) link
I knew nothing of Tinashe before trax poll so my initial impression of her is "widely acclaimed critical darling", like Ciara-level; I guess this is not the reality of it?
― Jennifer 8.-( (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:39 (nine years ago) link
forks wld like to point out he has been otm itt
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:39 (nine years ago) link
― sonny and sber (fgti), Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:35 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
well, 19 people did, including me and several others on this board
― some dude, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:39 (nine years ago) link
― 龜, Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:34 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― flopson, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:40 (nine years ago) link
oh shit, this is great
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:40 (nine years ago) link
ppl who voted for aquarius in p&j: http://furia.com/pjs/artist_8975.html
i think it fell outside my ballot but it's top level. very much a slow burner.
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:41 (nine years ago) link
oh man i am liking this
― k3vin k., Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:41 (nine years ago) link
― flopson, Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:40 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
can't wait for you to hear All Hands on Deck
― rob, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:42 (nine years ago) link
I would forward "Bet" as the secret best song on Aquarius
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:43 (nine years ago) link
That's my non 2 On fav.
― pandemic, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:44 (nine years ago) link
xp that, far side of the moon and thug cry are so great
― indie fuxxor albums i have secretly spotified (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:45 (nine years ago) link
gonna reiterate my "this is like 'what if Ciara was actually any good'" comment from the tracks poll
I liked "2 On" but thought I wouldn't be able to sit through an entire album; clearly I was wrong
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:45 (nine years ago) link
ciara is actually good
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:46 (nine years ago) link
Far Side of the Moon has consistently been the one that turns me into jelly.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:46 (nine years ago) link
disliking ciara is the mark of a scoundrel
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:47 (nine years ago) link
what omg how do you hear "Body Party" and think "this isn't good"
― Jennifer 8.-( (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:47 (nine years ago) link
I think my non-"2 On" fave is "Feels Like Vegas."
― Tove Lo Tove You Baby (jaymc), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:47 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, curious about how this bit of misinformation has been haunting me (and it's been haunting me, I love this album)
― sonny and sber (fgti), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:48 (nine years ago) link
"thug cry" was co-written by kalenna!
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:48 (nine years ago) link
Actually embarrassed I missed the Tinashe album last year.
― Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:48 (nine years ago) link
Because it's an ill-conceived, poorly-arranged mess sung by a wispy-voiced tone-deaf chipmunk
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:48 (nine years ago) link
'Thug Cry' is my favourite, it suddenly made total sense when I discovered the Kalenna connection. I like 'Bet' as well, finally a non-terrible use for Dev Hynes.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:49 (nine years ago) link
I think ~you're~ the tone-deaf chipmunk, mister
― Jennifer 8.-( (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:51 (nine years ago) link
iirc i voted for this higher than i did in my p&j ballot bc it is an exceedingly charming and rich album
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:52 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/W9HMd6p.jpg
4 OWEN PALLETT In Conflict [1,297 points, 37 votes, 4 first place votes]
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:52 (nine years ago) link
yay owen!!
― j. winters (josh), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:52 (nine years ago) link
the hometown hero
― ciderpress, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:53 (nine years ago) link
Yay! Such a good album.
― so not gonna häpna (seandalai), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:53 (nine years ago) link
TOO LOW
― gr8080, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:53 (nine years ago) link
lol at handwringing about misogyny in rap with the right hand and cheerleading indie rock (some of the most institutionalised misogy music going) with the left
― ||||||||, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:54 (nine years ago) link
tinashe record is amazing. a real sleeper.
"indigo child" and "far side of the moon" >>>>>>>>
― lex pretend, Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:31 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
"indigo child" is SO great
― j. winters (josh), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:54 (nine years ago) link
Liking this Tinashe on first listen, cheers!
― ineloquentwow (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:54 (nine years ago) link
It took me a fair while to fully appreciate this although I always thought the production and arrangements were top-drawer, now I love the whole thing.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:55 (nine years ago) link
I had problems connecting to Heartland but this is such a complete album, from the surprise Joe Hisaishi interlude in the opening track I was hooked
― so not gonna häpna (seandalai), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:56 (nine years ago) link
<3 that weirdly cute cover art for some reason
― davey, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:57 (nine years ago) link
#bless
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:57 (nine years ago) link
― 龜, Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:28 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This thread is a funny read as people slowly change their minds.
― rob, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:57 (nine years ago) link
damn, was hoping this would win
― Get Ducked (Cosmic Slop), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:58 (nine years ago) link
Yes! My #1. In the two magazine critics' polls I voted in I was the only voter.
― Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:58 (nine years ago) link
I don't know how many times I've played "The Riverbed" this year (my last.fm stats appear to be broken)
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:58 (nine years ago) link
My #3, a truly brilliant & emotionally consuming work - in a really good year, one of the standouts - amazing from start to finish. Great live too. NYC in for a treat this evening.
And yeah, too low :P
― Why? Gee! (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:58 (nine years ago) link
― rob, Thursday, January 29, 2015 8:57 PM (12 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i didn't realise it was one of my favourite albums of the year until after it had become one of my favourite albums of the year; you called it lived-in, which is otm and crucial, but it felt like you could live in it too. cocoon-like. and have a little dance every so often
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:59 (nine years ago) link
tinashe record is sounding fantastic, def living up to the hype (which a few things from today did not at all)
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:59 (nine years ago) link
predicting the order of the top 3 to go
3. t-swift2. f-twigs1. d-angelo
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:02 (nine years ago) link
― lex pretend, Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:59 PM (22 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
totally agreed, it's quite a deep album and needs exploring. I just found it funny how literally it enacts the idea of the album as a "slow burner" as the start of the thread is quite negative. I do wonder if D-40 ever came around on it?
― rob, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:02 (nine years ago) link
3. D'Angelo2. T-Swift1. Twigs
Is my guess.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:03 (nine years ago) link
I want Twigs to win but I don't see it happening
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:03 (nine years ago) link
I have to listen to this album. I've gotten very into "The Riverbed" (and fantastic video) since last week.
― jmm, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:03 (nine years ago) link
lex's order looks right
― Simon H., Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:03 (nine years ago) link
swift will win i think
― pandemic, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:04 (nine years ago) link
Yes! OWEN!
― pig∞n (dog latin), Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:04 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/0CwAvMr.jpg
3 FKA TWIGS LP1 [1,509 points, 43 votes, 2 first place votes]
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:04 (nine years ago) link
1989 for the top spot
XP
― ineloquentwow (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:05 (nine years ago) link
did tay tay fan vote in the albums poll? lol
― Get Ducked (Cosmic Slop), Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:05 (nine years ago) link
this was my no. 1 for so long, until another album got released last month.
― cajunsunday, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:06 (nine years ago) link
"Two Weeks" is amazing but I didn't find myself revisiting the album very often.
― so not gonna häpna (seandalai), Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:06 (nine years ago) link
i think more ILMers *love* d'angelo than really like taylor swift. could be wrong.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:06 (nine years ago) link
good for fucka twigs.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:07 (nine years ago) link
fka twigs just barely made my ballot but it's rare that these sorts of records appeal to me at all so i consider it one of the year's big pleasant surprises.
― some dude, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:07 (nine years ago) link
The tentpole tracks on LP1 are perfectly spaced out to keep the lesser ones from becoming a real drag on its greatness imo.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:07 (nine years ago) link
okay where do i sign up for team d'angelo?
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:07 (nine years ago) link
love that cover so much, almost made me buy a physical album for the first time in 5 years
― pandemic, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:07 (nine years ago) link
i have no dog in the top 3 race - all are albums i love, but with reservations, and not as much as their biggest fans love them
xp haha my order's already out of the window. good album! her middle eights and her icicle beats really elevate it. "two weeks" perhaps unfairly overshadows the rest of it; i found myself wanting more vocal chorales and less trembling sensuousness, but it could be pretty good to luxuriate in anyway. think it just fell off the edge of my ballot tho
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:07 (nine years ago) link
can't see Tay beating D'Angelo but I am almost always wrong about everything so
― Simon H., Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:08 (nine years ago) link
I waited so long before checking out what the hype was all about. I don't have anything clever to say about it yet but one of my favorites.
― abcfsk, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:08 (nine years ago) link
The T-Swift record is so strong though, I hadn't listened to a full record of hers before and I still can't stop blasting it daily
― ineloquentwow (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:08 (nine years ago) link
If Taylor wins idek
― The Reverend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:09 (nine years ago) link
I'm surprised Taylor's going to finish so high with my fourth-favorite Taylor Swift album. But I guess the crossover worked. No complaints, I like the record. Probably would have been in the low end of the top 10 for me.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:09 (nine years ago) link
Does not in any way deserve to beat D'Angelo tho.
I don't usually feel "Fuck out of here you all have atrocious taste" about artists I don't like but...
― The Reverend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:10 (nine years ago) link
i have no feelings toward the top three finishers ilx u hav forsaken me gon go meet me old cunt down the pub
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:10 (nine years ago) link
im rooting for beck
― cajunsunday, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:11 (nine years ago) link
the FKA twigs album is great but "two weeks" does tower over the rest of it for sure
― k3vin k., Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:11 (nine years ago) link
im rooting for dire straits feat young thug
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:11 (nine years ago) link
If other people dare like something I don't like, why, I'll just have to deal with it like an adult.
Yeah, I'm kidding myself. That doesn't happen here.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:11 (nine years ago) link
i don't like this record at all beyond the singles and i've listened to it so much
oh well
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:11 (nine years ago) link
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, January 29, 2015 1:11 PM Bookmark
Rae Sremmub
― The Reverend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:12 (nine years ago) link
I don't remember the last time I had such a violent, abrupt 180 on an artist like I had with FKA twigs. When "Water Me" placed last year, I basically rolled my eyes and went "eh whatever" and when people were going gaga over the "Two Weeks" video my initial thoughts were "wait, isn't this the really boring static whisper girl that three ppl were into last year" up until I played it, at which point my eyes got wider and wider until they took up about 80% of my face and I kept muttering "holy shit, holy shit, holy shit, WHAT IS THIS OH MY GOD"
The album is the best use of space in musical arrangement that I've heard since the first XX album and is a master class in crescendo. Once you get past "Two Weeks" and "Pendulum", spend some time really studying "Give Up", "Lights On", "Closer" and "Video Girl". Putting this at #1 on my ballot was the easiest decision I've ever made in an ILX poll.
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:12 (nine years ago) link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/Bono_U2_360_Tour_2011.jpg
"DID YOU PEOPLE NOT READ THE ROLLING STONE LIST???"
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:12 (nine years ago) link
The battle for the top spot was hard-fought, and amazingly ended in a tie...
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:13 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/STg5Qq2.jpg?1
TIE-1 CANNONBALL ADDERLEY The Black Messiah [7,498 points, 142 votes, 141 first place votes]TIE-1 VARIOUS ARTISTS Billboard Top Hits 1989 [7,498 points, 142 votes, 141 first place votes]
black messiah #1
― gr8080, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:13 (nine years ago) link
DJP I still haven't gotten past "Pendulum" :)
― brain floss mix (sleeve), Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:13 (nine years ago) link
lol, fka twigs.
― Nourry, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:13 (nine years ago) link
Rev - I didn't say I wasn't part of the problem.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:14 (nine years ago) link
I've never gotten the whole fascination with "Two Weeks" above and beyond the rest of LP1. It's just another track on the album to me, the whole thing is so of a piece I'd have a hard time declaring highlights.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:14 (nine years ago) link
ha ok xp
hmm. these numbers don't look right.
― cajunsunday, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:15 (nine years ago) link
And I've got a whole year to work on my hand-wringing when it comes to the Ear Bummers.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:15 (nine years ago) link
― The Reverend, Thursday, January 29, 2015 4:14 PM (13 seconds ago)
just on a basic level it's the easiest to get into, if you come at the album from an r&b-fan perspective, as i do, you're going to be drawn to the one that sounds like a ciara song. not to say there aren't some great other songs
― k3vin k., Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:16 (nine years ago) link
Honestly, I don't even play "Pendulum" that much. I spend a lot of time jumping between "Video Girl" and "Give Up", the latter slowly becoming my secret favorite when I'm not humming "Pull out the incisor/Give me two weeks/You won't recognize her" to myself
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:16 (nine years ago) link
― Matt DC, Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:28 PM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark
this is very true but also she can really sing ... she has really strong vocal moments ("bated breath") but they don't break the glass so to speak, it's kind of a tricky thing they pull off
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:17 (nine years ago) link
the bridge on "two weeks" is just unfairly sublime
― k3vin k., Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:17 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, I've never gotten why it's a stronger song or more r&b than anything else on there. xxxp
― The Reverend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:17 (nine years ago) link
was waiting for the u2 zing :-)
― mark e, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:17 (nine years ago) link
DJP otm. To me LP1 evokes much the same emotional state as the Marina Topley Bird tracks on Maxinequaye, only with present UK bass sonics and more coherence as an album, and that's no small feat. I also think, song for song, EP2 is stronger.
― The inscrutable savantism of (Sanpaku), Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:17 (nine years ago) link
Or maybe the real touchstone is, what if Nearly God wasn't made by a lazy stoner.
― The inscrutable savantism of (Sanpaku), Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:18 (nine years ago) link
I went back to EP2 thinking "omg I WAS WRONG" after loving LP1 so much and... well, I liked it more than I did initially, which is to say I didn't think it was monochromatic boring nonsense this time, but rather a dry run for the album that didn't work for me.
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:19 (nine years ago) link
Prob my favorite Twigs song is still "Papi Pacify" tbh
― The Reverend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:20 (nine years ago) link
Wish she had more of these tbh, I love her lower register and she doesn't use it that much. I also prefer the more conventional second half to the floatier first half.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:20 (nine years ago) link
ha i went back to EP2 as well and still thought it was boring wispiness
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:20 (nine years ago) link
Haven't heard any taylor swift since the first track to place on an EOY poll. People seem super into her though. Good luck to 'em.
― pandemic, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:20 (nine years ago) link
YES to praising tinashe's lower register
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:21 (nine years ago) link
i'll have to revisit ep2. I loved 'water me' but wasn't so in to the others.
― cajunsunday, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:21 (nine years ago) link
Water Me and Papi Pacify are still the two best Twigs songs imo, but LP1 works so well as it is that I'm glad they weren't repurposed for it.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:21 (nine years ago) link
But FKA Twigs isn't someone who really works well for me on a song-by-song basis. Way better to just put it all on and immerse.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:22 (nine years ago) link
I've spent a lot of time listening to EP2 and LP1 back to back. For some reason I've never gone back to the first EP tho.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:23 (nine years ago) link
we should just stop the poll here and leave the top 2 a mystery
― example (crüt), Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:23 (nine years ago) link
― ciderpress, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:24 (nine years ago) link
If that averts Taypocolypse, it works for me.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:24 (nine years ago) link
https://38.media.tumblr.com/b98745eb565e85c79c4814165af6806f/tumblr_n7cfzxWpFL1tq2qiuo1_500.gif
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:24 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/GI5m3tp.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ZEZWSSy.jpg
2 TAYLOR SWIFT 1989 [1,624 points, 40 votes, 8 first place votes]1 D'ANGELO AND THE VANGUARD Black Messiah [2,105 points, 58 votes, 8 first place votes]
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:25 (nine years ago) link
why even bother with 1-2?
you could listen to 3-4-5 on repeat forever and just generally be a happier person
xp haha nvm i guess the cat is etc
― otm rcuise (Will M.), Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:25 (nine years ago) link
58 votes!! WOW
― pandemic, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:25 (nine years ago) link
good job running thus guys. Thanks.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:26 (nine years ago) link
holy shit
― ciderpress, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:26 (nine years ago) link
2105! I noticed that we crossed 1000 as far back as YG.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:26 (nine years ago) link
Yessss!
― cajunsunday, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:26 (nine years ago) link
record-breaking points total
― so not gonna häpna (seandalai), Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:26 (nine years ago) link
i havent listened to the record yet since it came out so late in the year but that is an impressive % of the voter base
sort of relieved taylor didn't win with her worst album, even though i'm likely to play the best songs off 1989 more than black messiah, which also has its flaws
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:26 (nine years ago) link
Thx Fever and Sean.
― pandemic, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:26 (nine years ago) link
http://i.minus.com/izlIafbXI9G7h.gif
― prolego, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:27 (nine years ago) link
also haha tie for first place votes!
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:27 (nine years ago) link
D'Angelo is a worthy winner. Thanks JF. Sorry for shitting it up briefly.
― Why? Gee! (imago), Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:27 (nine years ago) link
cheers JF and crew for the effort, tis much appreciated.
― mark e, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:27 (nine years ago) link
so glad that was a blowou
― Simon H., Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:27 (nine years ago) link
lol Taytay gif is perfect
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:28 (nine years ago) link
Thanks, JF, gr80, seandalai!
― The Reverend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:28 (nine years ago) link
lmao prolego
― example (crüt), Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:28 (nine years ago) link
― Why? Gee! (imago), Thursday, January 29, 2015 4:27 PM (27 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh louis. it wasn't that brief.
― some dude, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:28 (nine years ago) link
YES thank you thank you thank you JF!
(also it's just in time for all of you to go nominate some stuff for ILGames's top of 2014, just saying)
― otm rcuise (Will M.), Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:28 (nine years ago) link
lol prolego
thx johnny & seandalai & gr8080!
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:28 (nine years ago) link
wow D'Angelo was on 40% of the ballots if I'm doing this right
― rob, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:28 (nine years ago) link
Have at it: ILM 2014 Albums Poll: Thread of Ballots, Statistics and Survivalist Posturing
― so not gonna häpna (seandalai), Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:28 (nine years ago) link
Can't begrudge D'Angelo for winning but it does make me wish I loved Black Messiah more than I did, although I'm listening now and Sugah Daddy is really doing it for me.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:29 (nine years ago) link
love the guy behind swift saying "fuckit"
― wins, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:29 (nine years ago) link
congratulation dangelo! i am glad u came back
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:29 (nine years ago) link
Direct link to the full results for those rationing their clicks: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HzdPL-OpUWIUEAOj9aKRbzPxMPyh0-XGBwxIK9YdPBo/edit?usp=sharing
― so not gonna häpna (seandalai), Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:29 (nine years ago) link
good poll JF and seandalai!
― rob, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:30 (nine years ago) link
It's not Taylor's best album - that's Fearless - and it's not necessarily more interesting than her last two, but with a few sequencing edits she succeeded in making an album-album which I've listened to more start to finish than, for example, Speak Now in the same period. And it doesn't really matter if the moment she went big, not only in album sales but in general acceptance, if you will, does not sound like what she's done so well until now -- because she has the power to define that even more now, anew, and has stated she's not doing the same album again, and after being so sceptical of the 1989 she pitched us, and an ill-advised lead single statement, and yet so happy with the result, all I can say for her future ventures is I'm more giddy with excitement than ever.
― abcfsk, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:30 (nine years ago) link
damn that's a blowout, just like the tracks.
thanks jf & seandalai
― gr8080, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:31 (nine years ago) link
Great poll, great rollout.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:31 (nine years ago) link
D'Angelo fuck yes, my number 2. Good poll, will have to check out the Juan MacLean record and Mr. Twin Sister.
― quan voice (voodoo chili), Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:31 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/KSXBZBd.png
― gr8080, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:34 (nine years ago) link
she has the power to define that even more now, anew, and has stated she's not doing the same album again
I'd like an album building off of "Clean." That's the song I play on repeat the most.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:34 (nine years ago) link
gangsta boo and vince staples both suffered from having multiple albums out i guess
― pandemic, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:35 (nine years ago) link
Yeah I'm looking forward to Tay's inevitable gothward lurch.
― Tim F, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:35 (nine years ago) link
― Tim F, Thursday, January 29, 2015 9:35 PM (18 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
"haunted" or "safe & sound"?
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:36 (nine years ago) link
I'm imagining something she hasn't really done yet. Heartened by her being a fan of Sky.
Thanks for these polls JF and Gr808.
― Tim F, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:37 (nine years ago) link
also i can't believe that i can hang out on ilx and still manage to miss a new the-dream record coming out
― pandemic, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:37 (nine years ago) link
Really pleased about D'Angelo. Course it was going to win!
― pig∞n (dog latin), Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:38 (nine years ago) link
Thanks poll crew
― Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:39 (nine years ago) link
your breakdown of countries
USA (41): D'Angelo And The Vanguard, Taylor Swift, Tinashe, YG, The War On Drugs, St. Vincent, The Juan Maclean, Run The Jewels, Mr. Twin Sister, Grouper, Against Me!, Miranda Lambert, Rich Gang, Shabazz Palaces, K. Michelle, Scott Walker & Sunn 0))), Swans, DJ Quik, Future Islands, Ariel Pink, The Soft Pink Truth, Toni Braxton & Babyface, Azealia Banks, Spoon, Angel Olsen, Lana Del Rey, Ex Hex, Lee Ann Womack, A Winged Victory For The Sullen, Sun Kil Moon, Moodymann, Steve Gunn, Botanist, Kelis, Tune-Yards, Freddie Gibbs & Madlib, Theo Parrish, Future, Warpaint, Sturgill Simpson, Real EstateGBR (18): FKA Twigs, Aphex Twin, Charli XCX, Richard Dawson, Gazelle Twin, Jessie Ware, Andy Stott, Mark Barrott, DJ Q, One Direction, Katy B, Wild Beasts, Ronika, Dean Blunt, Leon Vynehall, Call Super, Mica Levi, Cher LloydCAN (6): Owen Pallett, Caribou, Lewis, The New Pornographers, Ought, AlvvaysITA (2): Ninos Du Brasil, Gigi MasinNOR (1): Todd TerjeCHI (1): Javiera MenaSWE (1): Neneh CherryJAM (1): PopcaanNED (1): Young MarcoAUT (1): FenneszGER (1): Kassem MosseTHA (1): Khun NarinMTN (1): Noura Mint SeymaliJPN (1): Babymetal
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:40 (nine years ago) link
Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model)Posted: January 29, 2015 at 4:39:47 PMThanks poll crew
ya great job lots of fun
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:42 (nine years ago) link
I missed most of the rollout due to work so I'm going to have to go back and read through whatever happened today. I still don't know who Mr Twin Sister is.
― so not gonna häpna (seandalai), Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:45 (nine years ago) link
dee snider iirc
― why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:47 (nine years ago) link
oof @ nicki placing =257th
lol @ ariana getting shut out completely of both albums and trax
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:49 (nine years ago) link
so glad that a person with zero posting history, who only voted for the TS album, didn't end up influencing its placing
― brain floss mix (sleeve), Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:50 (nine years ago) link
I wonder how many people had intended to vote for The Pinkprint but didn't thinking it wasn't nominated. Show of hands?
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:50 (nine years ago) link
thanks again guys!
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:51 (nine years ago) link
xxxp i guess she's back to having the same number of problems
― otm rcuise (Will M.), Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:51 (nine years ago) link
I've had more critics and normal people say they "finally " "get" Swift with this album.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:53 (nine years ago) link
Must be that Swiftamine
― quan voice (voodoo chili), Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:55 (nine years ago) link
Great result. Happy with D'Angelo winning but even happier to see how high Owen ended up.
Thanks Johnny Fever, Seandalai and gr8080 for all your hard work.
― Kitchen Person, Thursday, 29 January 2015 21:59 (nine years ago) link
The rest of it sounds like Tom Petty and like all generic indie it seems extremely inoffensive and super-functional, I mean, it does go well with "hen of the woods". But with all generic indie it seems that the metric in which it is measured is 'competence' instead of 'genius', like, "no no this is in fact the Most Competent album by The New Pronographers" but I cannot fathom anybody getting either super-excited or super-pissed off about it, both sides of the fence are alien to me. Sounds good when a friend is buying you a hangar steak, that's pretty much how I break WoD down to an extent.
― sonny and sber (fgti), Thursday, January 29, 2015 11:19 AM (1 hour ago)
Already been discussed by flopson et al, but this sounds like the generic dismissal that genre-bound, vibe-based music inevitably receives from those who aren't particularly interested in the style and/or atmosphere cultivated. One could say something similar about quite a few relatively understated & gimmick-free album that have appeared in the countdown so far, whether Mark Barrott, A Winged Victory for the Sullen, Real Estate, Aphex Twin, Grouper, Shabazz Palaces, Fennesz, Steve Gunn, Kassem Mosse, or even the likes of Neneh Cherry and Moodymann. I don't think there's anything wrong with such dismissal when it's casual and foregrounds personal taste. I called Spoon's latest "the Ikea of rock", upthread, after all. But I get a little irritated when it extends out into the "let's be real here" suggestion that no one else could possibly find anything especially notable about the music.
The use of the world "functional" in fgti's description is, I think, key. No one gets too sneerily dismissive about purely functional dance music. Everyone accepts Music for Airports. But the suggestion that this year's sacrifical indie album is simply a noise interval well-crafted to suit certain environments is supposed to arrive as a knockout punch. A great deal more music is functionally ambient than is often supposed, and ambient music is as worthy as any other sort, imo. It seems that The War on Drugs construct a sonic environment that many find especially appealing, welcoming, chill or whatever. Wanted to say something similar in response to Lex's earlier suggestion that Mirel Lambert does Grouper better than Liz Harris. I disagree. Mirel Lambert is a traditional singer-songwriter working in a rather understated and atmospheric mode. Liz Harris is an ambient artist using what might seem to be a singer-songwriter's tools. At least that's how I hear and appreciate her music. It doesn't suffer at all by comparison by someone who might reasonably be described as a "better songwriter".
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:03 (nine years ago) link
due to work being hectic i missed the end of the rollout, will catch up now
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:04 (nine years ago) link
Was planning to put Pinkprint on the lower end of my ballot.
― bae sremmurd (monotony), Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:06 (nine years ago) link
Man, I love this place -- Tinashe so high! Her album you guys love more than I do, but I'm giving it another shot (I do love "Bet" and "2 On"). My ears got tainted by having to listen to Jhene Aiko non-stop for a couple days to write an article about underrated/understated R&B (and I only picked Aiko as an excuse to write about Ledisi, K Michelle, and Marsha Ambrosius).
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:08 (nine years ago) link
Wanted to say something similar in response to Lex's earlier suggestion that Mirel Lambert does Grouper better than Liz Harris.
I can't tell if you're talking about Mirel Wagner or Miranda Lambert. Leaning towards the former.
― Dinsdale, Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:08 (nine years ago) link
I make zero effort to hear the words in Grouper songs, partly because it was impossible for the first couple albums of hers I heard. She's very primarily ambient.
― ineloquentwow (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:11 (nine years ago) link
― ciderpress, Thursday, January 29, 2015 11:16 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:13 (nine years ago) link
lol, leah, meant mirel wagner. mentally subbed "lambert" due to that one bong hit back in 9th grade.
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:13 (nine years ago) link
and miranda is the lambert i'd mentally subbed in
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:15 (nine years ago) link
I was regretful that I left Mr Twin Sister out of the tail end of my ballot but I'm glad to see it didn't need my help.
"I am a woman / But inside I'm a man / And I want to be as gay as I can" before exploding into a storm of synths was one of the year's more thrilling pop moments.
― bae sremmurd (monotony), Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:18 (nine years ago) link
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Thursday, January 29, 2015 5:03 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Agreed. I have the same problem with lumping radio pop together with its own generic setting since I'm not a fan of that style.
― Evan, Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:20 (nine years ago) link
I liked flopson's response and liked contendo's addendum. Ftr I'm not being dismissive about generic indie in saying it's measured by competence, I like a lot of super-competent generic indie (Sloan, the first A.C. Newman record)!
@ Craigo make an effort to listen to the words in "Clearing", "Alien Observer" and "Come Softly" (esp. "Alien Observer") she is quietly a devastatingly good lyricist
― sonny and sber (fgti), Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:24 (nine years ago) link
OK, I only have one question for each and every one of you.
Why did you not tell me about Mr. Twin Sister?
― The Reverend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:27 (nine years ago) link
― Stig of the sanctimonious uncontextualized linkdump (Michael B), Thursday, January 29, 2015 1:36 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:28 (nine years ago) link
the whole 1989 rollout has been a masterclass in (re)branding - from her pointed genre shift to her new hyper-stylish single lady in nyc image to her savvy use of social media - and i think ppl's perception of tswift has changed more than their reaction to her music. i don't know whether they actually "get" her more or they just prefer that she's no longer a teenage girl singing overtly feminine country songs about ex-boyfriends. + i've noticed the fact that she writes the songs herself seems to have become a big bonus point in her favour to regular ppl. her banging on about it for 8 years (and tacking those voice memo bonus tracks onto the album) and making it the focal part of her appeal has really paid off.
i'm surprised 1989 has got the highest enthusiam score in the top 77 though tbh!
― prolego, Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:28 (nine years ago) link
xxp when I saw it in the rotation at my radio station I assumed it was some horrible cutesy thing w/ukeleles, sorry
― brain floss mix (sleeve), Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:28 (nine years ago) link
Yeah 'Alien Observer' is pretty clear and damn beautifully emotional tbh
― ineloquentwow (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:30 (nine years ago) link
@ rev: Mr Twin Sister
― bae sremmurd (monotony), Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:32 (nine years ago) link
Thanks JF!
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:35 (nine years ago) link
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, January 29, 2015 4:53 PM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i don't understand how they didn't already with RED, which is way way better and more revealing of her aesthetic/personality/insecurities etc, imo, but i guess i can see that
― indie fuxxor albums i have secretly spotified (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:35 (nine years ago) link
happy abt d'angelo
― Indexed, Thursday, January 29, 2015 1:44 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
hoping for the covers album Cold Shot: StV Does SRV
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:36 (nine years ago) link
RED was definitely my "in" for Swifty, and I had big hopes for 1989 (and they initially seemed to be fulfilled), but it wasn't long before I stopped listening to it at all.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:37 (nine years ago) link
don't understand how they didn't already with RED, which is way way better and more revealing of her aesthetic/personality/insecurities etc, imo, but i guess i can see that
― indie fuxxor albums i have secretly spotified (slothroprhymes
I prefer 1989 like most of the boards knows, but I suspect Swift's reached such popular mass that the former skeptics have started to soften -- like people who hate rock finally getting the Beatles in '65 after realizing they weren't going away.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:39 (nine years ago) link
and gay marriage
xxp same here, more or less. i listen to certain songs on 1989 regularly (style, out of the woods, blank space, new romantics) but since the week it came out i've listened all the way through like...twice.
― indie fuxxor albums i have secretly spotified (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:40 (nine years ago) link
red coincided with the absolute worst time for her public image - the whole gyllenhaal/styles relationship drama and "we are never getting back together" (although self-parody) fed into the worst perceptions of her being a clingy maneater. "i knew you were trouble" felt just as big as any of the recent singles but it felt a lot harder to sell tswift credibly to ppl than it does it now.
(the most impressive thing about 1989 is she's sold a fairly standard break-up album as being a 1980s influenced soundtrack to being single in nyc).
― prolego, Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:42 (nine years ago) link
read that as "being single in NSync."
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:43 (nine years ago) link
So basically it's Girls: the album? Yikes.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:48 (nine years ago) link
it's more looking
― prolego, Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:50 (nine years ago) link
Eyvind Kang - Alastor: The Book Of Angels vol.21Tinariwen - EmmaarHead High - MegatrapTerrence Parker - Life On The Back 9Jennifer Castle - Pink CityGangsta Boo & Beatking - Underground Cassette Tape MusicChris Forsyth and the Solar Motel Band - Intensity GhostCurren$y - The Drive In TheatreEdward - Into A Better Future
My expectations are always way off on this poll, but I thought at least one of these would place or maybe even a few! Gangsta Boo would have been a shoe in if not for her 2 strong releases. Although I thought most of them were massively odds against to place after 60.
― xelab, Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:52 (nine years ago) link
The use of the world "functional" in fgti's description is, I think, key. No one gets too sneerily dismissive about purely functional dance music. Everyone accepts Music for Airports. But the suggestion that this year's sacrifical indie album is simply a noise interval well-crafted to suit certain environments is supposed to arrive as a knockout punch. A great deal more music is functionally ambient than is often supposed, and ambient music is as worthy as any other sort, imo. It seems that The War on Drugs construct a sonic environment that many find especially appealing, welcoming, chill or whatever.
Agree with this, but the caveat might be that indie's trend towards pure functionalism is in many senses self-denying - it is part of indie's narrative that it is never purely functional, it's always (to use nabisco's formulation) a twisting or making-strange of available archetypes. And I think that if an album of "purely functional dance music" was considered album of the year by music critic consensus a lot of people would be very sneerily dismissive (albeit more on RYM than on ILM), most people would conclude that such an album does not deserve to be album of the year without something more going on.
So I think that in a lot of ways the consensus support for The War On Drugs is actually the best demonstration of the kind of critical double-standard that still remains in the wider world of music crit and fandom: we don't ask for demonstrations of something beyond competence from indie because the assumption of that "something more" is already built into our understanding of the genre as a whole.
― Tim F, Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:55 (nine years ago) link
Here's the imgur album with all the covers, btw: http://imgur.com/a/rU6gz#0
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:56 (nine years ago) link
Depends whether Fisher Price version of Eddie and the Cruisers is supposed to be (a) competent (b) something more
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:57 (nine years ago) link
johnny fever you still planning to do a 2000-2014 tracks/albums poll in the summer?
― Get Ducked (Cosmic Slop), Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:59 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, penciling it in for August/September-ish.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:59 (nine years ago) link
Tim I like that, and I would submit that the "something more" or twisting/making-strange quality of "indie" has slowly disappeared, not just from the music itself (see Alfred's comment about "boring roots rock" above), but from the genre/concept as a whole - it's no longer oppositional, it's the norm, so what used to be a funhouse mirror reflection of the dominant culture now comes across as navel-gazing or water-treading as opposed to twisted or strange.
― brain floss mix (sleeve), Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:00 (nine years ago) link
lets do it now xp
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:00 (nine years ago) link
just start reveling the results itt
obv we will all have competing definitions of what is just competent/functional and what is the ~twist~ and I'm not denying that TWOD are distinctive, more that at a very broad social dialogue about music level an album of equivalent "something more"-ness in any almost other genre would really struggle to build that level of consensus support (Rolling Stone love of U2 etc. aside).
― Tim F, Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:00 (nine years ago) link
― Tim F, Thursday, January 29, 2015 4:55 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
once again glad it's not my job to care about this kind of stuffrecord is nice imo
and honestly i think it is unique in its own way (vile being a close comparison obviously but they are so interconnected it's hard to separate, i personally rate vile higher), it's weird to me as someone who engages in a lot of rock music to hear people writing this off as "generic" indie because i don't consider this trad indie at all, and honestly i put it more in the classic rock zone than indie anyway
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:01 (nine years ago) link
definitely
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:01 (nine years ago) link
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, January 29, 2015 4:57 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i disagree, there's no elements of rock 'n roll (in the 50s sense) in this as there are in eddie in the cruisers, it has elements of springsteen but not the elements that connected springsteen to the 50s or spector
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:02 (nine years ago) link
haha it's great how we're arguing about conventional the purported influences can be
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:05 (nine years ago) link
*about HOW
I guess the point I was trying to make is that what was once considered "indie" is now almost literally classic rock
WOD being exhibit A in this transformation
― brain floss mix (sleeve), Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:06 (nine years ago) link
everywhere ya gokids wanna rock
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:07 (nine years ago) link
A+ display name btw
― brain floss mix (sleeve), Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:10 (nine years ago) link
ty :)
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:11 (nine years ago) link
i wonder to what extent availability on spotify played into the results? it seems like a very high % of these albums were easily accessible (obv taylor swift a big exception)
― Mordy, Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:11 (nine years ago) link
In the 80s/90s "indie" to me meant the self-denial of the guitar-bass-drums lineup, only they couldn't get on the redio.
― The inscrutable savantism of (Sanpaku), Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:14 (nine years ago) link
^ er radio. The biggest distinguishing mark was cheap production and guy-next-door vocals.
― The inscrutable savantism of (Sanpaku), Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:15 (nine years ago) link
+ i've noticed the fact that she writes the songs herself seems to have become a big bonus point in her favour to regular ppl.
Except that the fact that she shares writing credits on most of 1989's tracks is a reason for people like Sady Doyle to keep dismissing her.
― Tove Lo Tove You Baby (jaymc), Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:22 (nine years ago) link
(Actually, this tweet prob more relevant to that point.)
― Tove Lo Tove You Baby (jaymc), Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:23 (nine years ago) link
If people had to PAY for an album they sure as hell were gonna vote for it!
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:25 (nine years ago) link
I pay for access to about a gazillion albums each month
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:26 (nine years ago) link
1989 def would have made my top gazillion
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:28 (nine years ago) link
How much of the Taylor narrative is really based around "writes all her own songs"? She hasn't exactly been reclusive about the fact that she did this album with Martin and Antonoff. I also recall reading a very lengthy and frank post from Imogen Heap as to how they came up with "Clean".
― bae sremmurd (monotony), Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:34 (nine years ago) link
there's a weird "one drop" rule when pop stars' songwriting ability is being questioned where if any collaborator did anything, they did everything.
― some dude, Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:39 (nine years ago) link
one weird drop rule to determine songwriting credits
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:40 (nine years ago) link
Change some names and words around and that Bjork quote applies:
I have nothing against Kanye West. Help me with this—I’m not dissing him—this is about how people talk about him. With the last album he did, he got all the best beatmakers on the planet at the time to make beats for him. A lot of the time, he wasn’t even there. Yet no one would question his authorship for a second. If whatever I’m saying to you now helps women, I’m up for saying it. For example, I did 80% of the beats on Vespertine and it took me three years to work on that album, because it was all microbeats—it was like doing a huge embroidery piece. Matmos came in the last two weeks and added percussion on top of the songs, but they didn’t do any of the main parts, and they are credited everywhere as having done the whole album. (Matmos’) Drew (Daniel) is a close friend of mine, and in every single interview he did, he corrected it. And they don’t even listen to him. It really is strange.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:41 (nine years ago) link
the 'narrative' of her being a songwriter meant more when she was a full-on country artist and people who write all their stuff and get nothing from the Nashville song factory are a relatively small minority. to say nothing of the fact that most people who become stars in their teens don't start out with all self-written material.
― some dude, Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:42 (nine years ago) link
...it is part of indie's narrative that it is never purely functional, it's always (to use nabisco's formulation) a twisting or making-strange of available archetypes...
― Tim F, Thursday, January 29, 2015 2:55 PM (16 minutes ago)
I'm not sure how crucial a role this kind of thinking plays when it comes to the critical success of acts like The War on Drugs, The New Pornographers and Spoon. As sleeve suggests, while assumptions about indie's inherent and elevated otherness may residually attach to the genre, they're nowhere near so dominant as they were in the 80s and 90s. Besides, fans of practically every musical genre promulgate self-validating specialness narratives of this or that sort. Metalheads nurse a sense of defiant alienation far more profound than any found in indie. Dance partisans valorize electronic music's (by now surely vestigial) futurist cred. Rap fans champion street-level authenticity. If you spend a lot of time dwelling in any genre, you'll likely find some way to pat yourself on the back for doing so, and will also come to wholeheartedly adore music that those with no taste for the genre view as merely "competent" or "functional".
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:45 (nine years ago) link
A lot of the acrimony in the polls towards War on Drugs has less to do with the WoD album per se, or even the genre, and more to do w the frustration where Iit seemed like 17 out of the first 20 lists on the Year End Critics thread tagged as album of the year a project that could charitably be described as "white hipster channels VH1" when it seems that even withim the genre ppl like St Vincent and FKA Twigs were doing things more formally interesting and having to settle for second- or third-best or a/e
None of this has to do w people who acyually enjoy Lost in a Dream
― proggy went a-courtin' (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:47 (nine years ago) link
ok, that makes sense. having a really hard time wrapping my head around the idea that WoD and FKA twigs share a genre tho.
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:51 (nine years ago) link
why is "formally" interesting or genre breaking all of a sudden applied to WoD when ILX likes tons of stuff from other genres that sticks within genre convention and formulas
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:54 (nine years ago) link
They don't share a genre just a demographic
― Evan, Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:55 (nine years ago) link
It's a stick to be used to beat things in genres one doesn't like.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:55 (nine years ago) link
^^ez otm
it's craftsmaship when you want to like it and not innovative when you don't
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:56 (nine years ago) link
I'm no saint here, as I've been known to wield the club against programatic dance music. We all do it to some extent.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:59 (nine years ago) link
I'm not sure how crucial a role this kind of thinking plays when it comes to the critical success of acts like The War on Drugs, The New Pornographers and Spoon. As sleeve suggests, while assumptions about indie's inherent and elevated otherness may residually attach to the genre, they're nowhere near so dominant as they were in the 80s and 90s.
I think it's less obvious in what indie music music crit discourse valorises now, but it's still painfully obvious in what non-indie music that discourse valorises. Which is my entire point.
Besides, fans of practically every musical genre promulgate self-validating specialness narratives of this or that sort. Metalheads nurse a sense of defiant alienation far more profound than any found in indie. Dance partisans valorize electronic music's (by now surely vestigial) futurist cred. Rap fans champion street-level authenticity. If you spend a lot of time dwelling in any genre, you'll likely find some way to pat yourself on the back for doing so, and will also come to wholeheartedly adore music that those with no taste for the genre view as merely "competent" or "functional".
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Thursday, January 29, 2015 11:45 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Agreed, the only difference is that indie dominates general music crit discourse - this is pretty much always the only difference in these debates, really.
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, January 29, 2015 11:54 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I dunno if this is directed at me but if so you're misreading me. I have no issues with music not being "formally" interesting or genre breaking (in fact I've devoted a lot of time on ILM arguing against that requirement) and I have no issues with people liking WOD. I'm commenting on the fact that WOD has become the consensus choice for indie discourse notwithstanding that indie discourse still habitually looks down on music that "sticks within genre convention and formulas".
― Tim F, Friday, 30 January 2015 00:05 (nine years ago) link
The idea that, say, K Michelle gets rewarded for being devoted to R&B genre tropes while The War On Drugs get punished for being devoted to certain rock genre tropes can only be possibly true in respect of ILM - the reverse is true almost everywhere else.
― Tim F, Friday, 30 January 2015 00:07 (nine years ago) link
indie discourse still habitually looks down on music that "sticks within genre convention and formulas".
idk, this isn't as true as it used to be IME
― example (crüt), Friday, 30 January 2015 00:10 (nine years ago) link
...the only difference is that indie dominates general music crit discourse - this is pretty much always the only difference in these debates, really.
― Tim F, Thursday, January 29, 2015 4:05 PM (7 minutes ago)
i don't think this has much to do with indie, per se, except in that indie is quite popular with mainstream critics. by which i mean that point one above extends almost automatically from point two. those immersed in a genre will tend to notice other genres primarily when something in them seems to "stick out" of the general run. they will champion only that which strikes them as ~extraordinary~ in less familiar genres while more passively accepting and even celebrating their home genre's formal conventions.
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Friday, 30 January 2015 00:22 (nine years ago) link
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Friday, January 30, 2015 12:22 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Right, but your "except in that" is doing a lot of work here. Sure, it's an entirely arbitrary fact that indie is the 'center' of music crit discourse but it's still a fact, and it shapes how critical discourse as a whole talks about music.
It goes without saying that these things are almost never a direct consequence of the music itself.
― Tim F, Friday, 30 January 2015 00:27 (nine years ago) link
― example (crüt), Friday, January 30, 2015 12:10 AM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'd be interested in what you'd point to here. I think the fact that Pitchfork, say, has moved from being basically all-indie-all-the-time to more of an equivalent of Spin circa 1997 is not really indicative of a shift in the discourse so much as a shift in the magazine's positioning of itself within that discourse.
― Tim F, Friday, 30 January 2015 00:29 (nine years ago) link
seems like all indie kids like new R&B and Fleetwood Mac now
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 January 2015 00:46 (nine years ago) link
d'uh
― flopson, Friday, 30 January 2015 00:47 (nine years ago) link
well the cool ones at least
― flopson, Friday, 30 January 2015 00:48 (nine years ago) link
at some point they all started dressing like the mom on beverly hills 90210 too, brave new world imo
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 January 2015 00:49 (nine years ago) link
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown),
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 January 2015 00:51 (nine years ago) link
if the complaint proceeds from the idea that indie receives too much cheerleading attention from mainstream critics who don't venture far beyond the shire, then i tend to agree. i see the cultural dominance of indie not as the simple and direct "fault" of indie-centric publications and critics, however, but rather as the product of larger social dynamics. pitchfork caters to an audience it not only grew with, but helped cultivate. it dictates to some extent, but in order to do this effectively, it must also reflect. pitchfork is only as influential as its audience, and it commands cultural power by virtue its editorial congruence with that audience's tastes & values. its primary obligation is therefore to its audience.
at that point, the complaint shifts to something like "the consumers of ostensibly generalist music publications should be less interested in reading about and buying indie crap", and i begin to disengage. i don't disagree, necessarily, but it's not a fight i have a stake in.
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Friday, 30 January 2015 01:01 (nine years ago) link
so how would you classify its reviewing Tinashe and K Michelle singles?
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 January 2015 01:03 (nine years ago) link
er, Jazmine Sullivan
i can't. i don't have access to the kind of metrics that would help me evaluate their impact on readership. the impression that i get is of a publication that's trying to be all things to all potential readers without alienating their indie rocking core.
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Friday, 30 January 2015 01:07 (nine years ago) link
if the complaint proceeds from the idea that indie receives too much cheerleading attention from mainstream critics who don't venture far beyond the shire, then i tend to agree. i see the cultural dominance of indie not as the simple and direct "fault" of indie-centric publications and critics, however, but rather as the product of larger social dynamics.
I don't want to be inflammatory but in most other contexts we'd all agree that saying "but no one is specifically at fault for this social dynamic!" is not a terribly useful way of discussing an issue.
Also as someone who writes for Pitchfork I nonetheless find it remarkable that people treat the site's editorial decisions as the be all and end all of music crit discourse today. As if, but for Pitchfork, TWOD would not be the default album of the year pick. I disagree pretty strongly.
― Tim F, Friday, 30 January 2015 01:21 (nine years ago) link
TWOD would not be the default album of the year pick
^^is this true though?
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 January 2015 01:22 (nine years ago) link
Also as someone who writes for Pitchfork I nonetheless find it remarkable that people treat the site's editorial decisions as the be all and end all of music crit discourse today.
― Tim F, Thursday, January 29, 2015 5:21 PM (6 minutes ago)
i wasn't suggesting that no one is at fault, rather that it's complicated. you have to look at who's reading & why as well as what's getting written about. and i didn't bring pitchfork into this, much less suggest that's the be/end all. i think i was tending more towards pitchfork as a symptom of the culture it serves.
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Friday, 30 January 2015 01:33 (nine years ago) link
what's TWOD?
― flopson, Friday, 30 January 2015 01:40 (nine years ago) link
TWOD was #1 EOY polls in:
US/Can: Paste, NPR, Spin, AllMusic, Consequence of Sound, Under the Radar, Death & TaxesUK: Q, Uncut, The Line of Best FitElsewhere: Sonic (Sweden), Mondosonoro-Intl (Spain), OOR (Netherlands), Rumba (Finland), De Morgen (Belgium), Kalporz (Italy), Humo (Belgium), Dagsavisen (Norway), Dagbladet-Intl (Norway), Kindamusik (Netherlands), Ondarock (Italy), Pattentests (Germany), Storia Della Musica (Italy)
To be honest, it says more about how many music journalists may rely on others to do their filtering than the album itself.
― The inscrutable savantism of (Sanpaku), Friday, 30 January 2015 01:40 (nine years ago) link
ah okay that's a lotcongrats to war on drugs on all their success, wishing u years of good health & choice bud
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 January 2015 01:42 (nine years ago) link
this is my big takeaway from the whole thing
― brain floss mix (sleeve), Friday, 30 January 2015 01:43 (nine years ago) link
can someone make a "just the countdown" post
― oochie wally (clean version) (sic), Friday, 30 January 2015 01:57 (nine years ago) link
20 JAVIERA MENA Otra Era [574 points, 18 votes, 3 first place votes]19 RICH GANG The Tour Part 1 [581 points, 18 votes, 3 first place votes]18 MIRANDA LAMBERT Platinum [604 points, 16 votes, 1 first place vote]17 AGAINST ME! Transgender Dysphoria Blues [607 points, 16 votes, 4 first place votes]16 GROUPER Ruins [615 points, 21 votes]15 CARIBOU Our Love [618 points, 22 votes, 2 first place votes]14 MR TWIN SISTER Mr Twin Sister [620 points, 18 votes, 1 first place vote]13 RUN THE JEWELS Run the Jewels 2 [673 points, 27 votes, 1 first place vote]12 CHARLI XCX Sucker [688 points, 21 votes, 3 first place votes]11 THE JUAN MACLEAN In a Dream [710 points, 25 votes, 1 first place vote]10 TODD TERJE It's Album Time [812 points, 30 votes, 1 first place vote]9 ST. VINCENT St. Vincent [822 points, 28 votes, 1 first place vote]8 THE WAR ON DRUGS Lost in the Dream [925 points, 26 votes, 4 first place votes]7 YG My Krazy Life [1,004 points, 32 votes, 2 first place votes]6 APHEX TWIN Syro [1,035 points, 43 votes, 2 first place votes]5 TINASHE Aquarius [1,101 points, 35 votes, 1 first place vote]4 OWEN PALLETT In Conflict [1,297 points, 37 votes, 4 first place votes]3 FKA TWIGS LP1 [1,509 points, 43 votes, 2 first place votes]2 TAYLOR SWIFT 1989 [1,624 points, 40 votes, 8 first place votes]1 D'ANGELO AND THE VANGUARD Black Messiah [2,105 points, 58 votes, 8 first place votes]
― brain floss mix (sleeve), Friday, 30 January 2015 02:14 (nine years ago) link
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Friday, January 30, 2015 1:33 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Sure. I've not even been attacking anyone, just talking about interesting contradictions and double-standards and disparities at the discursive level.
All I really want is for critics to be more self-aware about their own limitations and biases (and obviously this applies as equally to critics who are too quick to dismiss indie records based on their own biases) and write in a way that reflects that. If you want to praise a record based on its generic competence, think about what that means for all the records you have dismissed on the same basis. And the reverse.
Or, basically, for critics to be more conscientious in applying Frank's Boney Joan Rule when thinking about what makes music worth (or not worth) celebrating.
― Tim F, Friday, 30 January 2015 03:23 (nine years ago) link
damn i had 8 of my votes place between #88 and #115
http://i.imgur.com/k2669I6.png
looking forward to getting in to Ronika and Mr Twin Sister and all the ambient and outer-national stuff that was never on my radar
― gr8080, Friday, 30 January 2015 03:45 (nine years ago) link
Or, basically, for critics to be more conscientious in applying Frank's Boney Joan Rule when thinking about what makes music worth (or not worth) celebrating.― Tim F, Thursday, January 29, 2015 9:23 PM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Say what?
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 January 2015 04:01 (nine years ago) link
thanks sleeve!
― oochie wally (clean version) (sic), Friday, 30 January 2015 04:19 (nine years ago) link
As this applies to words that I said, this is kinda bullshit as I for the most part tend to veer away from touting 'craftsmanship', although since I put words in the mouth of the ppl who were frustrated at TWOD placing, I can't really get mad at you doing the same to me
There's a couple more things which I don't have time to say right now. One is how in the 80s when indie first came out of college rock and hardcore genres is that it stood in opposition for stuff like Building the Perfect Beast and now has come full circle. Say what you will about rap which has existed for abt the same time; it never quite transformed into 'not-rap'
― proggy went a-courtin' (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 30 January 2015 04:37 (nine years ago) link
couldn't be happier to see the sharon van etten album ignored here, might be the only record more overrated the war on drugs one elsewhere
― don't ask me why i posted this (electricsound), Friday, 30 January 2015 04:40 (nine years ago) link
*than the
Boney Joan Rule
― Tim F, Friday, 30 January 2015 05:23 (nine years ago) link
let's start the 2015 nomination round now
― Dinsdale, Friday, 30 January 2015 06:34 (nine years ago) link
Noms December 11, 2015 - January 3, 2016Voting January 3, 2016 - January 15, 2016Tracks results January 18, 2016 - January 21, 2016Albums results January 25, 2016 - January 28, 2016
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 30 January 2015 06:49 (nine years ago) link
there's gonna be so much bitching about The Wrens
― Simon H., Friday, 30 January 2015 07:02 (nine years ago) link
This conversation seems to have evaporated somehow, or skewed awfully far afield of its origins. I began by suggesting that the "super-functional" quality (to use fgti's description) of an album like Lost in the Dream might be of legitimate value, in much the sense that ambient or dance music are often praised in functional terms. This was an attempt to steer the conversation away from competence vs. genius, which didn't seem a promising avenue.
Tim responded with, "we don't ask for demonstrations of something beyond competence from indie because the assumption of that 'something more' is already built into our understanding of the genre as a whole." I was dubious about this argument relative to the sort of comfortably mainstream, classic rockin' indie represented by The War on Drugs. From there, the discussion mutated a while before eventually settling on shared & uncontroversial complaints about the undue influence/tiresome homogeneity of complacent indie criticism.
That's all good, but I'm not sure how the Boney Joan rule fits in. Kogan's article suggests that we should interrogate the justifications we use to defend our tastes, but also that we should own them. It's perfectly okay to prefer Boney M for the same reasons that one scorns Joan Baez. According to Kogan (and I agree), the real, deep down, ultimate explanation for our tastes will probably never be available to us anyway. By this logic, it's perfectly fine to happily vibe out to The War on Drugs while finding other sorts of vibe-dependent music kind of boring. Or vice-versa.
To return to a previous stage in the conversation, I honestly think that the Problem With Indie, as exemplified by all those #1 placings for Lost in the Dream, is the lie of "generalism". A publication that highlights a strong institutional/curatorial identity yet frames its editorial taste as existing independent of any explicit niche (like "Rap Music", "Seattle Music" or "Christian Music") is expressing an arrogance that should strike us as laughable. If a publication truly wished to cover the globe, it might gather a cadre of deeply knowledgeable specialist critics and give each full oversight over his/her own roost, but such a publication would then have no core editorial identity. It would simply be a loosely affiliated critics' collective, a riot of harshly disparate voices and tastes.
Pitchfork, our era's leading generalist music site, refuses to settle for that. It wishes to survey the panoply and present only the very Best New Music available to you, dear reader. The fact that it nevertheless remains staunchly indie-centric without ever admitting it is fucking bizarre. Rap and metal (and jazz and dance and classical and country and avant-garde and punk and world music) publications have no problem defining their respective beats. Their readerships have no problem professing allegiance to the specific cultures they cover. Such publications issue modestly restricted year-end lists that concentrate on their declared areas of specialty. I personally believe that indie's generalist arrogance - in no way limited to Pitchfork - is a product of the peculiar form of self-blindness familiar from conversations about "privilege". But, to close the circle, that doesn't impugn anyone's enthusiasm for The War on Drugs.
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Friday, 30 January 2015 07:11 (nine years ago) link
This conversation seems to have evaporated somehow
gee
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Friday, 30 January 2015 07:13 (nine years ago) link
hi, matt
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Friday, 30 January 2015 07:18 (nine years ago) link
Never heard of war on drugs until this poll
― saer, Friday, 30 January 2015 07:23 (nine years ago) link
If you're starting this conversation by conflating 'competent' and 'functional' (and maybe 'sticks within the borders of its genre') in relation to the War on Drugs or indeed virtually anything then you're starting from a false premise regardless of the correctness of other parts of your argument.
― Matt DC, Friday, 30 January 2015 08:31 (nine years ago) link
I mean I'm not sure how many bands there are out there who over the years have mixed boomer rock tropes with droney shoegaze, not that many that I can think of, but because these are both separately very well worn tropes within indie rock now, they seem more generic than they might otherwise be considered.
The flipside is that this is exactly the sort of "the points of difference are only really visible close up" scenario that some critics would do well to consider more regularly when reviewing other genres.
― Matt DC, Friday, 30 January 2015 08:40 (nine years ago) link
I think the conversation has been tighter than you suggest. I raised the Boney Joan Rule because "owning" the contradictions in one's tastes necessitates dispensing with the pseudo-ethical justifications for our qualitative distinctions - if we recognise that we like competence in one area and dislike it in another out of pure inconsistency, then we have to concede that this distinction is entirely arbitrary. At that point, intellectual consistency demands acknowledgment that's no reason that it's "right" to be inconsistent in that manner.
My original point was to agree with you that tolerance of pure functionalism or competency in one area of music while complaining about it in another (or using it as a basis to justify disregarding whole swathes of music) is inconsistent, but I would like to see more music crit discourse own up to this inconsistency rather than pretend (whether consciously or just at the level of an unacknowledged starting premise) that in just one area pure functionalism is okay because of some inherent nobility of form.
I agree with you that the basic problem is... not indie-generalism itself, but the circumstances that give rise to it.
― Tim F, Friday, 30 January 2015 09:01 (nine years ago) link
Agree with that analysis and it gets some way to identifying what my problem with them is. They're taking these two contrasting but both ultimately very stodgy comfort food ingredients and fusing them together into what basically amounts to the glazed bacon donut of indie rock.
― let me be your fan taytay (NickB), Friday, 30 January 2015 09:02 (nine years ago) link
That was a response to mdc btw
― let me be your fan taytay (NickB), Friday, 30 January 2015 09:03 (nine years ago) link
Thanks to JF and sean - really enjoyed the rollout, esp. Day 1
― Jeff W, Friday, 30 January 2015 10:26 (nine years ago) link
I hate Bruce Springsteen. I hate late 80's beer commercial rock. Dire Straits do nothing for me. I don't read Pitchfork. I love the War On Drugs album, and voted it third. My enjoyment of it has nothing to do with its presumed influences. For me, it inhabits its own singular musical space. PS, I am 52.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 30 January 2015 11:16 (nine years ago) link
Guards, take him.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 January 2015 11:54 (nine years ago) link
― johnny crunch, Friday, 30 January 2015 12:09 (nine years ago) link
One more casualty of the war on drugs
― proggy went a-courtin' (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 30 January 2015 12:12 (nine years ago) link
I also voted for Jack White and Manic Street Preachers. I'll leave my pass at the security desk.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 30 January 2015 12:16 (nine years ago) link
Thanks for a great roll out JF! Enjoyed it and have quite a list of albums still to check out.
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Friday, 30 January 2015 12:44 (nine years ago) link
― The Reverend, Thursday, January 29, 2015 5:27 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
Rev I'm pretty sure I played this for you when you were over haha
― 龜, Friday, 30 January 2015 13:20 (nine years ago) link
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 13:45 (nine years ago) link
Think what threw you off was that I mentioned the Sade comparison that gets thrown around and obviously everything that isn't Sade starts sounding a little bland as soon as you mention Sade
― 龜, Friday, 30 January 2015 13:50 (nine years ago) link
Already found some good stuff in the 77 that I missed completely (DJ Q, Winged Victory for the Sullen, Ex Hex). Thanks to the pollrunners!
― Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 30 January 2015 13:50 (nine years ago) link
i feel like every year ilms eoy list becomes more itself
― wizaerd (Lamp), Friday, 30 January 2015 13:53 (nine years ago) link
― proggy went a-courtin' (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, January 29, 2015 10:37 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
did not intend to put words in your mouth that was just my reaction to the post...
i get what you're saying about indie/college rock being in opposition to building the perfect beast...but in the long perspective of music, it gets more apparent that the differences between, for example, one of the "pro" X major label records and Boys of Summer had a lot more to do w/how the audiences viewed themselves than X really breaking from classic rock forms in any meaningful way...or like I dunno, the difference between REM and Tom Petty, they both are now actually considered classic rock, as is U2, once a "post-punk" band so for a band that comes later like War on Drugs, I don't think it's unnatural to throw in psych/post-punk/kraut/dire straits/FM rock/neil young/whatever into a blender
also i heard an interview with the War on Drugs dude on the local radio station when they came through town and he talked about like driving around listening to Bob Dylan on cassettes in a Volvo station wagon after soccer too, so I'm not sure how "indie" the dude ever was....he might have always just a rock dude
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 January 2015 13:57 (nine years ago) link
rock and roll genius ride the middle of the roadmilk that sound, blow your loadsoon it's bigger than you ever said it'd gofour stars in a Rolling Stone
― brain floss mix (sleeve), Friday, 30 January 2015 15:28 (nine years ago) link
if we recognise that we like competence in one area and dislike it in another out of pure inconsistency, then we have to concede that this distinction is entirely arbitrary
True up to a point -- if all you say is, "Ugh, competent rock/trap/techno/country" or "Yay, competent rock/trap/techno/country." But it's possible and not rhetorically contradictory to find some competence charming or comforting, and some competence stultifying. So it's a matter of clarity and specificity, not being lazy in thinking or writing.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Friday, 30 January 2015 15:34 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, I agree that talking about TWOD in terms of "indie" values, for good or ill, is a red herring. The fact that it's placed so high in the ILX poll when records with equivalent RS/Q love (Beck, Sharon Van Etten, Sun Kil Moon, Jack White) proves that it's not representative on indie in 2014. That's why everyone tasked with defining its significance in EOTY write-ups has struggled. There's nothing to sign up to here. It's just an unassuming yet distinctive, very pleasurable (or not) vibe record that's thinkpiece-repellent. It's not just competent though. There are hundreds of merely competent rock records every year that get faint praise and disappear.
― Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model), Friday, 30 January 2015 15:39 (nine years ago) link
Otm
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 January 2015 15:41 (nine years ago) link
i think ppl should be using 'atmospheric' to describe that war on drugs records. doing a kinda scott seward disoriented grandpa thing here but i dont really have a sense of what ppl are talking about when the say 'indie' rn. i did really like the war on drugs records, listened to it a fair bit but i feel like it kinda falls into that matt p thread about 'inconsquential music' i was reading like its not really situated w/in the current aesthetic or social context for 2014 indie? its just sorta... its own thing but not in a tastemaking way. idk
― wizaerd (Lamp), Friday, 30 January 2015 15:53 (nine years ago) link
truth bomb from the tracks poll:
ILM is one of the few remaining safe spaces online where indie rock is rightfully hounded & mocked ceaselessly.
― ||||||||, Friday, January 23, 2015 6:05 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
tim explained this to contenderizer but everyone complaining about indie getting mocked for things that rap, country, metal, pop, dance don't is missing the point. they don't start on the same level. you've had half a century and ongoing of rock/indie's values being centred and dominant. pushing back against that is an integral part of this board's dna and you will simply DEAL when people continue that proud history.
― lex pretend, Friday, 30 January 2015 15:55 (nine years ago) link
its not really situated w/in the current aesthetic or social context for 2014 indie? its just sorta... its own thing but not in a tastemaking way. idk
― wizaerd (Lamp), Friday, January 30, 2015 10:53 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
theyll be on the bonaroo/jam circuit w/3 years, ive see it happen before, bet
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 15:56 (nine years ago) link
indiesplaining
― Mordy, Friday, 30 January 2015 15:56 (nine years ago) link
lex thats nonsense
― wizaerd (Lamp), Friday, 30 January 2015 15:57 (nine years ago) link
― lag∞n, Friday, January 30, 2015 9:56 AM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah any band that comes close enough to that scene generally makes that move eventually and i don't blame them, way more loyal fanbase & big summer circuits to hit
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 January 2015 15:58 (nine years ago) link
Pretty sure this board used to be a Belle & Sebastian fan forum.
― emil.y, Friday, 30 January 2015 15:58 (nine years ago) link
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, January 30, 2015 10:58 AM (19 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah its way better, the fans actually love music too
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 15:59 (nine years ago) link
Wonder if PJ Harvey will drop a new LP two weeks before Xmas so we can really test this.
― nashwan, Friday, 30 January 2015 15:59 (nine years ago) link
This board started out thinking Loveless and Kid A were the best albums ever iirc
― nashwan, Friday, 30 January 2015 16:00 (nine years ago) link
haha even the early board's official indie hate mascot ethan was a belle & sebastian fan
― some dude, Friday, 30 January 2015 16:00 (nine years ago) link
who isnt?
― wizaerd (Lamp), Friday, 30 January 2015 16:04 (nine years ago) link
that said a song like 'Seasons' winning the tracks poll would've felt like much more of a break from tradition
― nashwan, Friday, 30 January 2015 16:04 (nine years ago) link
I wouldn't equate "rock values" with "indie values" nor say that either set of values has remained consistent over a half-century
― example (crüt), Friday, 30 January 2015 16:07 (nine years ago) link
i'm american btw
TWOD is on the Bonnaroo roster for this year. I haven't been too into I've heard by them, but I might check them out there -- hazy guitar jams can be fun.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Friday, 30 January 2015 16:07 (nine years ago) link
And yes, it's not hard to imagine them going over well with the My Morning Jacket fanbase, e.g.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Friday, 30 January 2015 16:08 (nine years ago) link
xp If ILM's mission is to correct historical rockcrit injustices and oppose Pitchfork and all it stands for, then maybe there should be a sign on the door.
― Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model), Friday, 30 January 2015 16:14 (nine years ago) link
lol @ lex's timsplaining
the discussion at this point has zero to do with whether or not it's okay to mock indie. of course it is, you big dummy. if fgti had come in yesterday with "lol, more landfill indie crap", then i'd have filed the post with strychnine's and quickly moved on. however, the fgti post that triggered all this was a good deal more subtle and interesting than that, so i treated it in kind. mockery is fine for what it is, but when your ability to deal with a genre is wholly defined by childish "my team rulez, your team droolz" bullshit, then you've become irrelevant to more nuanced discussions.
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Friday, 30 January 2015 16:14 (nine years ago) link
our job is to fight the indiearchy
― Mordy, Friday, 30 January 2015 16:15 (nine years ago) link
i do agree that yesterdays rock/today's indie are the voice, in a way, of a dominant culture. that's probably worth discussing, and it's where i'd left things at the end of my last (long) post. i didn't push it any further, cuz this is the point at which fucks cluster.
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Friday, 30 January 2015 16:19 (nine years ago) link
srsly you do not want to go down that roadway too much time has already been devoted to the war on drugs as it is
― groundless round (La Lechera), Friday, 30 January 2015 16:21 (nine years ago) link
the war on drugs will never end tbh
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 January 2015 16:23 (nine years ago) link
Was secretly hoping that Aphex Twin's placing would cause a reevaluation of his catalog, a process called The War On Drukqs
― 龜, Friday, 30 January 2015 16:25 (nine years ago) link
― wizaerd (Lamp), Friday, January 30, 2015 11:04 AM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
me, lots of people here
― some dude, Friday, 30 January 2015 16:26 (nine years ago) link
― example (crüt), Friday, January 30, 2015 10:07 AM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
no crut, you know ROCK VALUES...the ones shared by Motley Crue, Grateful Dead, The Clean, and Jesus Lizard
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 January 2015 16:26 (nine years ago) link
I find Lex's genre-battle approach both exhilirating to read and completely alien to how I think about music.
Enjoyed all your posts contenderizer
― Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model), Friday, 30 January 2015 16:29 (nine years ago) link
― wizaerd (Lamp), Friday, January 30, 2015 7:53 AM (25 minutes ago)
oh, do disoriented grandpa! i love that.
good post, kidding aside. agree that "atmospheric" is a good description of the vibe-based pleasures offered by lost in the dream. that's what i was getting at in describing it as functionally ambient: songwriting aside, it creates & maintains a distinct sonic environment, one that many find enjoyable for obvious reasons. i'm not eager to distance it from "indie", though. indie's a big tent, and the war on drugs don't seem so terribly out of place slotted alongside acts like kurt vile (obviously), the hold steady and even fleet foxes.
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Friday, 30 January 2015 16:37 (nine years ago) link
also, good call on the thread connection with matt's "inconsequential music". i'd wanted to rope that in yesterday, re: indie generalism's magpie mentality, but i could make it fit and had gone on forever already.
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Friday, 30 January 2015 16:40 (nine years ago) link
Contendo making cool and interesting posts. Lex otm as always
Just to be clear, my usage of the word "competent" was not meant to be demeaning in any way or suggest that somehow functional music is less-than uhhhh "art music" or what you will. I am a card-carrying AC Newman fan. "Generic indie" bands make up 90% of my client base. But yeah, sound of the monoculture. When the comfort of a steak and a bougie ragout is available to me then I can enjoy this music recreationally. The only time I work up a sweat about "too music indie rock" is when I see festival line-ups and there are no girls or queers
― sonny and sber (fgti), Friday, 30 January 2015 16:51 (nine years ago) link
"Generic indie" bands make up 90% of my client base
indie rock well much clientele anything u needhe probably sell
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 January 2015 16:52 (nine years ago) link
also the way these "serious debates" play out is a good reminder that i'm still basically lobbing jokes from the ILX kid's table
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 January 2015 16:57 (nine years ago) link
Would like to say that the AWVFTS record was a major code-crack for me. I feel like a lot of people on Erased Tapes have been on the comfortable side of the field, closer to the "not-as-good-as-actual-chamber-music" of fifteen-years-ago post-rock than something that is new and profound. But yeah they cracked the code, ATOMOS is an enormous watershed moment to my ears. All the discipline of Feldman but with a lovely elegance. Really melted my heart and I've spent my whole life smiling politely at that style of disguised easy listening music whither it's Sigur Ros or Tim Hecker
― sonny and sber (fgti), Friday, 30 January 2015 16:59 (nine years ago) link
Ive been wanting ti check out Winged Victory since 2011. Maybe it's time I finally did so
― the war on me (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 30 January 2015 17:50 (nine years ago) link
ILM indie mockery is fine but it teeters on close-mindedness and hi-fiving each other's narrow tastes a lot of the time
― Darin, Friday, 30 January 2015 18:23 (nine years ago) link
does it, though
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 30 January 2015 18:25 (nine years ago) link
― Darin, Friday, 30 January 2015 18:26 (nine years ago) link
*hi-5*
― 龜, Friday, 30 January 2015 18:28 (nine years ago) link
there's a lot of indie love on this forum, it just tends to not manifest on the poll rollout threads as strongly as pop / dance / r&b etc love. probably because 'indie' is so fractured and ill-defined that it doesn't really have the same type of rallying points
― ciderpress, Friday, 30 January 2015 18:35 (nine years ago) link
imo its because indies know they are shameful
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 18:36 (nine years ago) link
i certainly do
― ciderpress, Friday, 30 January 2015 18:37 (nine years ago) link
lol no its because indies are ruthless appropriators of everything else
― wizaerd (Lamp), Friday, 30 January 2015 18:37 (nine years ago) link
feel like were finally getting somewhere
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 18:38 (nine years ago) link
http://bygonebureau.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/vote.jpg
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 January 2015 18:40 (nine years ago) link
enough shame to know they need to appropriate everything else, not enough shame to refrain from it
― lex pretend, Friday, 30 January 2015 18:41 (nine years ago) link
I don't recognise P4k indie as worth giving a shit about, the rampant conservatism is anathema to anything definable as worthy in the sense if beind independent. Soundtracking a Harvester meal seems about right. Would not identify as indie, UK DIY definitely bcs a lot to be proud of. Indie rock is growing old and mostly very boring.
― ineloquentwow (Craigo Boingo), Friday, 30 January 2015 18:41 (nine years ago) link
The bad records are bad because they make a horrible sound, not because of where they are in the supermarket
― saer, Friday, 30 January 2015 18:42 (nine years ago) link
lol no its because indies musicians are ruthless appropriators of everything else
― Darin, Friday, 30 January 2015 18:43 (nine years ago) link
kinda vibe ilms place in the vanguard of indie cultural appropriation tbh - making the pop country and adult r&b nabes safe for the p4ks of the world to plant their eoy lists in.
― in de rawk (Lamp), Friday, 30 January 2015 18:44 (nine years ago) link
tru
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 18:44 (nine years ago) link
btw i enjoyed the mr twin sister record its neat
― ciderpress, Friday, 30 January 2015 18:46 (nine years ago) link
no one is innocent
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 January 2015 18:46 (nine years ago) link
musicians are ruthless appropriators of everything else
― example (crüt), Friday, 30 January 2015 18:48 (nine years ago) link
Lex pretend otm with his last two posts
― The Ghost of (strychnine), Friday, 30 January 2015 19:04 (nine years ago) link
― sonny and sber (fgti), Friday, January 30, 2015 5:59 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Hey, great you warmed to this man! Remember your initial reservations,but you cracked it alright :)
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Friday, 30 January 2015 19:16 (nine years ago) link
― The Ghost of (strychnine), Friday, January 30, 2015 1:04 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
if lex is kid rock i guess yr joe c.
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 January 2015 19:24 (nine years ago) link
― lex pretend, Friday, January 30, 2015 12:41 PM (56 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i thought you liked juan maclean
― goole, Friday, 30 January 2015 19:38 (nine years ago) link
btw juan maclean used to be in this band called six finger satellite that seemingly opened for every touring band who came through boston when i was a youth, i def saw them over ten times and didnt really care ever
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 19:41 (nine years ago) link
i like his dance music tho
not the new album so much
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 19:42 (nine years ago) link
six finger satellite i guess at the height of grunge sent sup pop a fake grunge demo and got signed then just recorded their normal synthy music for release and sub pop never commented on the discrepancy
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 19:43 (nine years ago) link
i'd heard that story yeah. never heard 6FS tho! they were post punk before that was cool, right?
― goole, Friday, 30 January 2015 19:44 (nine years ago) link
post punk was very cool then idk they didnt seem out of place opening up for like jesus lizard
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 19:45 (nine years ago) link
but i guess they were ahead of the curve as far as being into like synthesizers and general machiney music in that scene, same as like trans am
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 19:46 (nine years ago) link
feel like juan might be a little overselling how progressive they were i mean
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0OBlrx6qQw
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 19:47 (nine years ago) link
― 龜, Friday, January 30, 2015 5:20 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― 龜, Friday, January 30, 2015 5:50 AM Bookmark
I don't remember this at all! Just us playing a whole bunch of goon rap. I blame the whiskey.
― aybaybayfan (The Reverend), Friday, 30 January 2015 19:49 (nine years ago) link
6FS ruled
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 January 2015 19:51 (nine years ago) link
idk that youtube sounds like the rockier end of DFA stuff already to me
― aybaybayfan (The Reverend), Friday, 30 January 2015 19:54 (nine years ago) link
yeah theres def something going on there but it also doesnt sound that diff than like shellac
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 19:56 (nine years ago) link
that electronic meets touch n go tuff guy thing wasn't nec uncommon though - trans am, girls vs. boys, etc were all in that zone
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 January 2015 19:57 (nine years ago) link
the whole edgy tuff guy aspect of that music is so hilarious in retospect
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 19:58 (nine years ago) link
you wouldn't want to meet GVSB in a dark alley though. all those dark clothes, you might not see them and bump into them and injure yourself.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Friday, 30 January 2015 19:59 (nine years ago) link
they might say something deeply cynical and disturbing to you about like society
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:00 (nine years ago) link
look out, he's got guttural sloganeering + bass jams
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:01 (nine years ago) link
GVSB came up to mpls to record an album and they did a residency night for a while on wednesdays at this bar, it was super awesome they would play & have guests & dj and stuff, p cool
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:01 (nine years ago) link
i still f/w all that stuff though
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:02 (nine years ago) link
i cant really deal tho in theory some of it is still p cool
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:03 (nine years ago) link
i'm actually a gvsb fan, though i checked out after freak*on*ica. which is probably not as terrible as its rep but still kinda terrible.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:04 (nine years ago) link
i never listened to gvsb, i did jesus lizard, shellac, scratch acid, the band with the terrible name who had members of scratch acid and shellac
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:06 (nine years ago) link
I've probably seen Shellac the most of any band that I wasn't friends with
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:08 (nine years ago) link
i saw them at least a few times tho jesus lizard more i think, not sure who i saw most of all, maybe the melvins
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:10 (nine years ago) link
i love all those bands but never heard SFS. Remember Brainiac?
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:11 (nine years ago) link
I saw the jesus lizard once,was pretty great that 90's amerindie was my fave music back then
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:12 (nine years ago) link
what do we call this type of music
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:12 (nine years ago) link
fyi melvins were nominated in this poll and got zero votes, rip melvins
― gr8080, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:12 (nine years ago) link
Brainiac was great
Great band out of that scene that is awesome but no one outside of Minneapolis or Albini & Cory Rusk love is Arcwelder
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:13 (nine years ago) link
indie is more insidious now tho, secret indie histories revealed itt, sad
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:14 (nine years ago) link
xps "pigfucker" iirc
― brain floss mix (sleeve), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:14 (nine years ago) link
― gr8080, Friday, January 30, 2015 3:12 PM (43 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
aw
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:14 (nine years ago) link
does silkworm fit in here somehow?
― Evan, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:14 (nine years ago) link
Melvins are weird cuz the are partly this scene, partly Am Rep, and partly metal scene
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:14 (nine years ago) link
― brain floss mix (sleeve), Friday, January 30, 2015 3:14 PM (0 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
was thinking that tho cldnt be sure, i def never uttered that word or heard anyone say it tho maybe i read it in a magazine
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:15 (nine years ago) link
Skwm were more trad & had some classic rock influences but are def core Albini posse members
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:15 (nine years ago) link
yah I think FE coined it? xp
― brain floss mix (sleeve), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:16 (nine years ago) link
melvins kinda just in their own beautiful realm doing beautiful things
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:16 (nine years ago) link
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Friday, January 30, 2015 3:14 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
It's crazy now they are like the Grateful Dead, dudes will pay crazy amounts for limited vinyl or small shows, they were charging like $100 for this thing where Buzzo bartender at Tom Hazelmeyer's bar
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:18 (nine years ago) link
haha wut
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:19 (nine years ago) link
Yeah wasn't even a show just a hangout
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:20 (nine years ago) link
brainiac is def the band i was thinking of listening to that 6fs youtube
― call all destroyer, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:20 (nine years ago) link
were there special hugs?
― goole, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:20 (nine years ago) link
― lag∞n, Friday, January 30, 2015 3:12 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh early red red meat is part of this scene too I think. I'm not sure what the topic is right now though.
― Evan, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:21 (nine years ago) link
remember being really proud i d'led this one brainiac album on napster
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:22 (nine years ago) link
Yeah it wasn't really a sound so much as some aesthetic I know instantly but can't articulate... Like Slint was a part too & they are way different
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:23 (nine years ago) link
just figured out that Toko Yasuda from the Brainiac spinoff band Enon is playing moog & guitar for St. Vincent
― Darin, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:25 (nine years ago) link
it's so great that t&g stuff is on spotify, i am jamming some brainiac rn
― call all destroyer, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:26 (nine years ago) link
when i hear 'indie rock' i think of a lot of that stuff in addition to the pavement gbv matador mid 90s indie rock but i guess they really arent related at all
― ciderpress, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:27 (nine years ago) link
def strongly overlapping fanbases tho
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:28 (nine years ago) link
indie rock and indie in general was a lot of things not an actual 'sound'. You forget that sometimes in todays climate of all things 'indie'.
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:28 (nine years ago) link
xpeven if yes there was overlapping audiences at times. It was a far cry from 90s uk britpop or whatever you would label post millennium indie
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:29 (nine years ago) link
yeah, that's why it strikes me as weird when people categorize Haim or whoever as being "indie'. It's as useful of a descriptor as "hipster".
― Darin, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:29 (nine years ago) link
iirc the label that was involved also influenced that definition ;)
― brain floss mix (sleeve), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:31 (nine years ago) link
im interested in the hipster/indie divide i lived in new york so long i didnt know there were still indies left but then i visited portland and it was full of em i was like wow
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:31 (nine years ago) link
I said upthread somewhere that indie to me just describes a demographic
― Evan, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:31 (nine years ago) link
indies buy records, hipsters buy cassettes
― brain floss mix (sleeve), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:32 (nine years ago) link
there's plenty of indies in the bullshit college town i live in now but scant dear hipstros
― flopson, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:32 (nine years ago) link
sad
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:33 (nine years ago) link
the greatest trick the devil ever played was teaching indies to be sexy (hipsters)
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:34 (nine years ago) link
there's a class element to indie / hipster imo
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:35 (nine years ago) link
ur a class element
― flopson, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:35 (nine years ago) link
i am it's true
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:36 (nine years ago) link
it def requires less money to be indie than hipster
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:36 (nine years ago) link
indie defensive hipster offensive
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:38 (nine years ago) link
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:38 (nine years ago) link
just tryin out words
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:39 (nine years ago) link
I'm very confused. I thought that hipsters could only be defined by what they're not.
― Evan, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:39 (nine years ago) link
no u can tell by how the pants are slim cut
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:40 (nine years ago) link
sexy pants
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:42 (nine years ago) link
major faction of non hipster indies in 2015 is like ppl who got into indie circa cute woodsy bearded lumbersexual picnic in a meadow animal-themed band names circa mid 00's but couldn't get down with the ensuing trends. my roommates bf is like that, all the music he listens to sounds like arcade fire mixd with kind of triumphant lion king soundtrack epic group vocals on the chorus, they play twee songs to each other on guitars in the living room and bake their own bread. glad i made it out of that aesthetic intact
― flopson, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:42 (nine years ago) link
indies just wear some like brown pants, theyre not sure where even got them
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:43 (nine years ago) link
If you guys are going to start dissing wearing brown clothes, I'm gonna be mad.
― emil.y, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:45 (nine years ago) link
class is a dumb way to talk about something so hairsplitting but plenty of poor hipsters on the grind, asking u for bumps, asking to get onto the guestlist. "indie" is more a college thing atp so it probably correlates more with fam income. also more of a white thing.
― flopson, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:46 (nine years ago) link
i have brown cords but i know *exactly* where i got them
hahaha I was waiting for you to reply to that. Quick work emil.y
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:46 (nine years ago) link
Non-hipster indies are the worst imo. Like the woman I met who named her dog Wilco.
― aybaybayfan (The Reverend), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:46 (nine years ago) link
o god
― flopson, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:47 (nine years ago) link
the non-hipster indies western us version i'm thinking of are over 40, worked in a record store or were in a industrial / neo folk / post punk band in the 90s, love the stooges and nick cave, opposed to hippies and prob. can now just be described as "conservative, eccentric"
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:47 (nine years ago) link
Music and cultural "taste" is backed up with correct arguments and facts, not "digging".
― Banaka™ (banaka), Thursday, 16 August 2012 01:09 (2 years ago) Permalink
― example (crüt), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:48 (nine years ago) link
working-class parents, may or may not be kinda racist, etc. xp
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:49 (nine years ago) link
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― flopson, Friday, January 30, 2015 3:42 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Is anyone else seeing this?
― Evan, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:49 (nine years ago) link
"indie" is more a college thing atp so it probably correlates more with fam income.
Naw, most of the non-hipster indie types I know are 25-45 well-off post-collegiates. That may be reflective of my own age, iirc you're a bit younger?
― aybaybayfan (The Reverend), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:49 (nine years ago) link
I find a lot of people ay they're into "80s indie " or "90s indie" they dont want anyone to think they like "pitchfork or nme music" (depending on whether they are US or UK based.Pretty sure the whole im into 80s indie was around in 1991 though.
Weirdly I see just as many people posting about being into 80s or 90s rap. That really is a thing ive seen watching the reverend arguing with those people on twitter.
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:50 (nine years ago) link
hm so much history how time moves along
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:52 (nine years ago) link
is emo still a thing with the teenagers?
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:53 (nine years ago) link
xp rev- i'm 23. i think we're in agreement though. by "a college thing" i meant something norms get into during college so well off post-collegiates fits that
matt i think we're talking about a different thing. or your example is just getting lil too specif and you're just describing one person you know irl lol. "may or may not be kinda racist" applies to all groups we are talking about evenly. hipsters def less racist than 10 years ago though, reading gawker/jez instead of vice
― flopson, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:53 (nine years ago) link
I'm into 80s and 90s rap, especially 90s rap tbrrwu.
― aybaybayfan (The Reverend), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:53 (nine years ago) link
im into music
― ciderpress, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:55 (nine years ago) link
a few people but indicative of a type i think.
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:55 (nine years ago) link
maybe more "tru kvlt alt" then "indie"
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:57 (nine years ago) link
90s are involved
alternative rock is back in 2015 baby...oh yahhhhh
― ciderpress, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:58 (nine years ago) link
OK word. I'm 28 and pretty much disconnected from the college crowd. I work with teenagers and DJ for and party with 21+ crowds on the reg, so I know what those sets like but college taste is p much a mystery to me at this point. Seems like they like middlebrow rappers and MGMT knockoffs a lot afaict.
― aybaybayfan (The Reverend), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:58 (nine years ago) link
and they stream legend by bob marley rather than have it onmp3/cd/lp ?
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Friday, 30 January 2015 21:00 (nine years ago) link
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Friday, January 30, 2015 3:50 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah I do this because in general indie rock stylistically started to shift away from my liking in about 96-97. Though I like plenty of newer artists too.
― Evan, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:01 (nine years ago) link
whos an example of a 'middlebrow rapper'?
― ciderpress, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:01 (nine years ago) link
Seems like they like middlebrow rappers and MGMT knockoffs a lot afaict.
― aybaybayfan (The Reverend), Friday, January 30, 2015 3:58 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is also what ppl liked 10-ish years ago when i graduated
― call all destroyer, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:02 (nine years ago) link
― flopson, Friday, January 30, 2015 3:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAWdc9haQcA
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 January 2015 21:02 (nine years ago) link
I started to turn on indie rock when postrock became a thing, but I began to antagonize indie rock and indie rock fans when Death Cab and Rilo Kiley and Sufjan and Oberst became the inescapable leaders. There's nothing I hate worse in music of any style than unchecked preciousness.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:03 (nine years ago) link
all i remember music-trend-wise from college was a lot of kanye and a bit of vampire weekend
― ciderpress, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:03 (nine years ago) link
this was 6-9 years ago tho
― ciderpress, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:04 (nine years ago) link
i know a handful of people who match each of the descriptions of "types" itt, but in general i'm not really into sorting living breathing human beings into genres and making sweeping ideological assumptions about people i don't know based on my anecdotal experiences. tho i've definitely done it before and still slip into it again occasionally. i guess this is part of the reason why i don't think i should be a pop music critic.
― example (crüt), Friday, 30 January 2015 21:05 (nine years ago) link
I loved post-rock and math-rock but it did end up becoming formulaic and with diminishing returns but what doesn't
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Friday, 30 January 2015 21:05 (nine years ago) link
i'm not really into sorting living breathing human beings into genres and making sweeping ideological assumptions about people i don't know based on my anecdotal experiences
― example (crüt), Friday, January 30, 2015 4:05 PM (25 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
one of my fav things to do tbh
― flopson, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:07 (nine years ago) link
don't be afraid of types it's ok everyone is still unique in miniscule amts
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Friday, 30 January 2015 21:08 (nine years ago) link
i dont like physically sort them
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:08 (nine years ago) link
i think it's a natural tendency for people & a sign of intelligent thought process! but it's stereotyping & therefore not really accurate/honest/fair to anyone
― example (crüt), Friday, 30 January 2015 21:09 (nine years ago) link
binders full of types
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 January 2015 21:09 (nine years ago) link
just to revel in the natural display of human diversity tho
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:10 (nine years ago) link
so many "likes" and "unlikes"
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Friday, 30 January 2015 21:11 (nine years ago) link
― aybaybayfan (The Reverend), Friday, January 30, 2015 3:58 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i meant "non-indie hipsters" as we were calling them tend to have gone to college whereas "hipsters" as i have known them includes more "loser" alt-lifestyle dbags. art school the exception obvs. but yeah the avg college student in 2015 listens to like stuff you named + black keys and mumf
― flopson, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:13 (nine years ago) link
― ciderpress, Friday, January 30, 2015 1:01 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
J. Cole
― aybaybayfan (The Reverend), Friday, 30 January 2015 21:15 (nine years ago) link
i like the idea that u can classify culture + subcultures and that people fit into them. i'm obsessed with the commonality of human experience lately, thinking about how everyone over estimates the uniqueness of their experience. it's kind of calming to know that we're to a large degree just acting out cultural archetypes and even the perception that we have 'free will' in something as simple as our tastes in music is misguided (that was one of my big epiphanies reading like nabisco & tim f posts as a teen). and like the role of media in all this. like thinking about how stuff i read when i was 12 or 13 years old that i can't even remember reading is now embedded in me, and in other people who read the same stuff at the same impressionable age, too. imo it's only a shitty thing to do if you keep yourself outside of it like some omniscient seeing-thru-your-bullshit snob. i'm as much a "type" as any of the people i'm sorting, its kind of cool & freeing to admit it
― flopson, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:23 (nine years ago) link
like obvs don't lose sight of the magic & uniqueness of everyday human experience. but also don't mistake one for the other?
― flopson, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:24 (nine years ago) link
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Friday, 30 January 2015 21:25 (nine years ago) link
I don't got no type
― 龜, Friday, 30 January 2015 23:02 (nine years ago) link
Bad Brains is the only band that I like
Great band out of that scene that is awesome but no one outside of Minneapolis or Albini & Cory Rusk love is Arcwelder― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown)
I saw Arcwelder many times. Some great shows in the hot, stinky basement of the Speedboat Gallery in St. Paul, and $3 shows at the Uptown Bar in Mpls. Babes In Toyland, The Bastards, Run Westy Run, Rifle Sport, Walt Mink, all the Amphetamine Reptile bands like Cows, Hammerhead, Janitor Joe, Melvins (we booked them to play outside our student union and they were game!) and visiting Aussies Lubricated Goat and Cosmic Psychos. When I moved to Chicago, Touch & Go bands filled that slot. The Jesus Lizard, Shellac, Six Finger Satellite, Silkworm (just got this reissue - https://skwm.bandcamp.com/album/libertine). My bread and butter for live shows in the early 90s. We just called them rock bands.
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 30 January 2015 23:24 (nine years ago) link
ha xp
― aybaybayfan (The Reverend), Friday, 30 January 2015 23:30 (nine years ago) link
I know people are mainly thinking of much different bands, mainly from the 00s, when they set up these indie straw dogs. If only I could stuff a bunch of folks in this forum in a time machine and see some of the shows I did like Dog Faced Hermans, early Fugazi shows, Jesus Lizard and others above, and witness firsthand how demented, funny, sometimes frightening, and fresh and original these bands were.
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 30 January 2015 23:32 (nine years ago) link
they seem like the requisite troll-placements of their respective years. not that i don't unironically enjoy both.
― billstevejim, Friday, 30 January 2015 23:40 (nine years ago) link
Fastnbulbous OTM. The live music experience is not appreciated or discussed much on this forum it is true.
― everything, Friday, 30 January 2015 23:43 (nine years ago) link
http://www.indyweek.com/binary/06e2/indy-logo-sq-fb.pngGAH. THE HORROR.
― billstevejim, Friday, 30 January 2015 23:46 (nine years ago) link
http://www.empireonline.com/images/features/100greatestcharacters/photos/6.jpgThis man ruined my life.
― billstevejim, Friday, 30 January 2015 23:47 (nine years ago) link
@ everything, it's understandable though, as it's hard to translate in writing. What little video footage there is doesn't really do the experiences justice. I'd love decent footage of moments like my friend Glenn literally banging his head against Donita Sparks' (L7) guitar, He Who Shall Not Be Named (Dwarves) whacking a heckler with his guitar, penis flopping about.
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 30 January 2015 23:55 (nine years ago) link
seeing bands live is rockist
― billstevejim, Saturday, 31 January 2015 00:14 (nine years ago) link
Great lost upthread, flopson
― pig∞n (dog latin), Saturday, 31 January 2015 01:30 (nine years ago) link
*post
Yeah flopson doing god's work
― Tim F, Saturday, 31 January 2015 01:31 (nine years ago) link
When I think of 'indie' I think if the Stone Roses and the Happy Mondays, which is the first music I remember being described as such. Think it's pretty mad how now it seems to mean something so different in places like ILM.
― pig∞n (dog latin), Saturday, 31 January 2015 01:33 (nine years ago) link
cuz they came up earlier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qzf7h3AR8Iw&t=1m43s
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Saturday, 31 January 2015 01:47 (nine years ago) link
― lag∞n, Friday, January 30, 2015 12:12 PM (5 hours ago)
indie rock, iirc
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Saturday, 31 January 2015 01:49 (nine years ago) link
this whole discussion should probably be on some indie thread but w/e, some history
my (US) pantheon for this type of stuff (n.b. I am 48) from 92-95 was Pavement, Sebadoh, & Unrest. Almost nobody outside of Ohio had heard about GBV until late 93 or 94, I saw them play a free show downtown in the summer of 93 and there were < 20 people. Sebadoh's "Gimme Indie Rock" had come out in 1991, and in my mind is still the most high profile use of the term.
It's funny now in retrospect to think about the 88-91 era, what I think of as the grunge years as opposed to the post-Nirvana alt-rock that the word came to describe. Mudhoney, Dinosaur, Pussy Galore, SY. The only traces of 90's indie were the first few releases by Drag City (Pavement's Demolition Plot 7", first two Royal Trux singles), the very early Sebadoh records, and Unrest's 2 albums for Caroline which were very different than their work w/Bridget Cross. Go back even earlier and you get college rock or whatever, another antecedent.
and then somehow from the late 90's where Sebadoh and GBV and Pavement were all the rage, we get this kinda thing that ppl touched on earlier
a major faction of non hipster indies in 2015 is like ppl who got into indie circa cute woodsy bearded lumbersexual picnic in a meadow animal-themed band names circa mid 00's but couldn't get down with the ensuing trends. (flopson)
I started to turn on indie rock when postrock became a thing, but I began to antagonize indie rock and indie rock fans when Death Cab and Rilo Kiley and Sufjan and Oberst became the inescapable leaders. (Johnny Fever)
so it seems to me like even the musical signifiers have mutated and changed, and that the word is just some free floating cultural signifier. I dunno.
I'm deliberately leaving out the whole pigfucker/AmRep/Dog Faced Hermans/The Ex/Fugazi/whatever thing because I don't think it was ever really "indie" in fact probably kinda hostile to the term. I mean, I love all of that stuff, but I see it as it's own thing, much more punk rock related as in sweaty basement shows or whatever.
― parakeetal pancreasface (sleeve), Saturday, 31 January 2015 01:52 (nine years ago) link
Confused by what flopson was saying in that quote.
I liked the freak folk thing in 2005. I was a big fan of Animal Collective and the one Devendra album I had. it was interesting and refreshing until that style started getting co opted and flattened out by things like Fleet Foxes and Bon Iver before eventually becoming a default style that gets played on car adverts.
― pig∞n (dog latin), Saturday, 31 January 2015 02:00 (nine years ago) link
yah I think FE coined it? xp― brain floss mix (sleeve), Friday, January 30, 2015 3:16 PM (3 hours ago)
― brain floss mix (sleeve), Friday, January 30, 2015 3:16 PM (3 hours ago)
Actually I read somewhere that Christgau came up w the term 'pigfuck'
― the war on me (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 31 January 2015 02:26 (nine years ago) link
that was hobbies
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Saturday, 31 January 2015 02:39 (nine years ago) link
not sure i recognize the indie rock landscape described itt. ime, most major cities have a healthy, showgoing indie rock subculture dedicated to high-energy freakouts in small spaces. its local taste & character probably draws on and crosses over with garage rock, punk, hc, metal, noise and artmusic, but remains distinct and tacitly punk-oppositional. bands from these scenes rarely become super popular, but many thrive for quite a while in the niche. until a couple years ago, when i moved to siberia, i was still hooked in with, listening to and going out to see a lot of what i'd call indie rock: oh sees, ty segall, pissed jeans, deerhoof, oneida, wooden shjips, metz, tyvek, etc. that's still the essence of indie rock to me: loud yet accessible noise delivered in a small room delivered to an audience of nerds.
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Saturday, 31 January 2015 02:41 (nine years ago) link
^ well, wasn't sure i recognized it prior to sleeve's last (excellent) post. lol, i'm sure i've run a similar breakdown at least five time on this site.
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Saturday, 31 January 2015 02:42 (nine years ago) link
that's still the essence of indie rock to me: loud yet accessible noise delivered in a small room delivered to an audience of nerds.
a CIA black site
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 31 January 2015 02:43 (nine years ago) link
flopson otm re: types
it's always fun figuring out your taste against the backdrop of an archetype, seeing where you cleave to it and where you don't. and seeing where you're perfectly happy to be that archetype vs watching out for the danger of getting calcified in it (the latter especially with people getting older)
― lex pretend, Saturday, 31 January 2015 04:12 (nine years ago) link
types
― gr8080, Saturday, 31 January 2015 05:00 (nine years ago) link
subcultures
genres
memories
vibes
― lag∞n, Saturday, 31 January 2015 05:26 (nine years ago) link
albums
songs
― lag∞n, Saturday, 31 January 2015 05:27 (nine years ago) link
friends
ipods
― 龜, Saturday, 31 January 2015 05:28 (nine years ago) link
retweets
― gr8080, Saturday, 31 January 2015 05:57 (nine years ago) link
carles
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Saturday, 31 January 2015 06:03 (nine years ago) link
Yeah flopson doing god's work --Tim F
flopson otm re: typesit's always fun figuring out your taste against the backdrop of an archetype, seeing where you cleave to it and where you don't. and seeing where you're perfectly happy to be that archetype vs watching out for the danger of getting calcified in it (the latter especially with people getting older) --lex pretend
it's always fun figuring out your taste against the backdrop of an archetype, seeing where you cleave to it and where you don't. and seeing where you're perfectly happy to be that archetype vs watching out for the danger of getting calcified in it (the latter especially with people getting older) --lex pretend
aw :) love u guys
― flopson, Saturday, 31 January 2015 06:03 (nine years ago) link
sometimes i do actually realise that i am becoming quite boring and that's when I am thankful for the people who say the things i want to say but less tiresomely than the way I would put it
― Tim F, Saturday, 31 January 2015 06:55 (nine years ago) link
I did notice that 9 out of the 25 albums I voted for were made by middle-aged women and briefly wondered whether that was me getting old and calcified but then I realised no one else, old or young, is much repping for those middle-aged women so it's more down to patriarchy
― lex pretend, Saturday, 31 January 2015 08:01 (nine years ago) link
Of course you've repped for a few middle-aged men as well (Cohen, Waits)
― the war on me (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 31 January 2015 08:18 (nine years ago) link
(also Quik duh)
― the war on me (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 31 January 2015 08:19 (nine years ago) link
I like to think of myself as being untied to any scene or genre. But that all gets thrown into sharp relief come EOY when I realise I've listened to naff all metal, barely any hip hop and even less r'n'b and pop this year, despite really enjoying these genres when the time comes to hearing them. I started subscribing to Wire two years ago, so among other things it's shaped my listening landscape a lot more than top 40 radio.
― pig∞n (dog latin), Saturday, 31 January 2015 12:41 (nine years ago) link
Being untied to scenes and genres is exactly what would cause you to lose touch with them
― lex pretend, Saturday, 31 January 2015 13:35 (nine years ago) link
dog latin maybe it's time you started following those scenes then. Every year you say you are disconnected but never try to alter that!
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Saturday, 31 January 2015 15:34 (nine years ago) link
Reading The Wire will widen the schism too.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 31 January 2015 15:49 (nine years ago) link
the non-hipster indies western us version i'm thinking of are over 40, worked in a record store or were in a industrial / neo folk / post punk band in the 90s, love the stooges and nick cave, opposed to hippies and prob. can now just be described as "conservative, eccentric"― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Friday, January 30, 2015 2:47 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Oh man neofolk... That's a whole can of worms on its own, I fell into a wiki/Spotify hole one day trying to understand who was racist & who was into gay Nazi kink & who was just singing about sad trees and snowball
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 31 January 2015 15:58 (nine years ago) link
Lol snow not snowball
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 31 January 2015 15:59 (nine years ago) link
hah i read through the wikis for those guys every so often too just because i don't relate to them in any way
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 31 January 2015 16:02 (nine years ago) link
Stop reading magazines and just see what you find in the woods
― saer, Saturday, 31 January 2015 16:08 (nine years ago) link
what if you find a magazine in the woods
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 31 January 2015 16:11 (nine years ago) link
sad trees and snowball i expect
― ciderpress, Saturday, 31 January 2015 16:12 (nine years ago) link
then you won't have to wipe with leaves
― Dinsdale, Saturday, 31 January 2015 16:14 (nine years ago) link
And don't just look in one place, I often venture out of the woods, and sometimes I got right up on top of the old abandoned viaduct and see whats there too
― saer, Saturday, 31 January 2015 16:15 (nine years ago) link
pro tip: magazines under old board in vacant lot
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Saturday, 31 January 2015 16:19 (nine years ago) link
contendo check yr webmail
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Saturday, 31 January 2015 16:22 (nine years ago) link
Have you ever found porn in the woods?
― the war on me (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 31 January 2015 16:25 (nine years ago) link
areweoutofthewoods yetareweoutofthewoods yetareweoutofthewoods
― dyl, Saturday, 31 January 2015 17:35 (nine years ago) link
woodsporn
― lag∞n, Saturday, 31 January 2015 18:12 (nine years ago) link
best thread ever
― Vic Perry, Saturday, 31 January 2015 19:08 (nine years ago) link
did & done, cs
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Saturday, 31 January 2015 19:43 (nine years ago) link
argh you can't keep the "fascist themes unspoken". are you singing about forests?? you are a nazi!! this is crystal clear.
― goole, Friday, August 17, 2012 1:57 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― goole, Saturday, 31 January 2015 20:04 (nine years ago) link
Got a copy of Workshop 19 from Hardwax yesterday!
― MikoMcha, Sunday, 1 February 2015 12:42 (nine years ago) link
Being untied to scenes and genres is exactly what would cause you to lose touch with them― lex pretend, Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:35 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkdog latin maybe it's time you started following those scenes then. Every year you say you are disconnected but never try to alter that!― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Saturday, January 31, 2015 3:34 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post PermalinkReading The Wire will widen the schism too.― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, January 31, 2015 3:49 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― lex pretend, Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:35 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Saturday, January 31, 2015 3:34 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, January 31, 2015 3:49 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Uh... isn't this what I'm saying?
― pig∞n (dog latin), Monday, 2 February 2015 11:29 (nine years ago) link
ah never mind, who cares...?
― pig∞n (dog latin), Monday, 2 February 2015 11:31 (nine years ago) link
I guess what I mean is, who's got the time? If I had more than 2, maybe 3 hours worth of music listening time a day then maybe I'd be able to check out all the latest things I'd like to, but I don't. And I don't see the point in specialising in just one style at a time. I have to be in a specific mood to listen to hip hop or metal, so it would be unnatural to spend a week just listening to one style unless I really wanted to. So I'm pretty happy being a dilettante in that respect.
― pig∞n (dog latin), Monday, 2 February 2015 11:49 (nine years ago) link
You dont have to follow anything, its not a test!
and theres no need to put things in boxes and think i must listen to something in category 7 today.
― saer, Monday, 2 February 2015 12:08 (nine years ago) link
yes. but this is all in relation to flopson and lex talking about archetypes and how we see ourselves fitting into those.
― pig∞n (dog latin), Monday, 2 February 2015 12:11 (nine years ago) link
I worry about being a cherry picker sometimes but ultimately I know I'm culturally a UK DIY indie/experimental plugged-in guy over and above anything else. We're all here bcs we have our specialisations to some degree and want to benefit from the wisdom and research of others with different specialisations imho. Here as in this thread.
― ineloquentwow (Craigo Boingo), Monday, 2 February 2015 12:28 (nine years ago) link
Man I'd love to have 2-3 hours music listening time a day.
― Tim F, Monday, 2 February 2015 12:34 (nine years ago) link
I have a lot more than that...work with headphones on + travel
― saer, Monday, 2 February 2015 12:35 (nine years ago) link
xpost yeah, it's a stretch at that
― pig∞n (dog latin), Monday, 2 February 2015 12:36 (nine years ago) link
most of my music time is done on my commute, with train carriage noise and traffic to contend with. these last couple of years, i've been busy writing and producing my own music as much as listening to others', so obsessively listening to demo versions and mixdowns eats into that time, as well as effecting my listening habits to some extent as well.
― pig∞n (dog latin), Monday, 2 February 2015 12:38 (nine years ago) link
In theory I have an entire waking day of music listening time available to me, most days, because I work from home. But a lot of the time - not all, but some - I find myself wanting to listen to news radio or blessed silence. As I get older, I feel less guilty about that.
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 2 February 2015 12:56 (nine years ago) link
I love silence!
― saer, Monday, 2 February 2015 13:05 (nine years ago) link
tennis tends to be the biggest interference with my listening time - fitting new music around the matches when there's a slam on is a struggle - and even then i have no idea how some people find time to listen to as much as they do. tim if you have so little time how do you hear so many long hour-plus radio sets?!
it's also having, say, two uninterrupted hours - if i know i'll have to stop in 45 minutes there's no point starting a mix that lasts longer...
― lex pretend, Monday, 2 February 2015 13:10 (nine years ago) link
I'm pretty used with sets to listening to them across the day - commute / gym / commute for example.
― Tim F, Monday, 2 February 2015 13:14 (nine years ago) link
Yeah I can remember the last time I had the opportunity to stream a dj set for example. No wifi on the train makes for endless buffering. Shame really, because obvs this is one of the best ways to hear and appreciate new dance music.
― pig∞n (dog latin), Monday, 2 February 2015 13:18 (nine years ago) link
*Can't remember
You can download a mix and put it in your bag
― saer, Monday, 2 February 2015 13:20 (nine years ago) link
I have a bag of mixes somewhere here, near the old barn
― saer, Monday, 2 February 2015 13:21 (nine years ago) link
best you come over to us on ile we'll look after you
― local eire man (darraghmac), Monday, 2 February 2015 17:43 (nine years ago) link
lol at ppl who just filled out ballots with 25 ALBUMS of music released in 1 year being all "where might i find the time to listen to a dj set?"
― flopson, Monday, 2 February 2015 18:06 (nine years ago) link
NB i don't think it's important to follow scenes or listen to dj sets in fact its often really boring i think dog latin missed my pt upthread, all i meant was its fun to talk in a reductive way about music & culture more generally
― flopson, Monday, 2 February 2015 18:10 (nine years ago) link
also people who are like i don't see colour I ain't got no type are usually kidding themselves a bit.
I'll happily admit that given my taste in music and general ~listening history~ I think about music in fairly predictable ways.
― Tim F, Monday, 2 February 2015 20:05 (nine years ago) link
I will certainly allow biases - mainstream country production tends to grate on me (the Lee Ann Womack album itt being a happy exception) and being a person who fears clubs, straight-up dance music tends to leave me cold. But I do make an effort to broaden my tastes a little every year. I can definitely thank ILM for getting me into balearic house, and helping me to get in touch with my emo-loving side.
― Simon H., Monday, 2 February 2015 20:25 (nine years ago) link
from the other thread - "Genres - never deny their existence if someone else says them, never use their names yourself"
I dont think its about saying you dont have a type, its more that it fades into the background, its not important because its implicit, people are too hung up on it, border-policing, this isnt that genre, yes it is, its not the real kind - its all missing the point, shutting things down, another chapter in the anthology, another section in the record shelves
― saer, Monday, 2 February 2015 20:29 (nine years ago) link
Difference between not border policing and pretending you're a totally unbiased all gates open listener in the face of clear evidence to the contrary IIRC
― Tim F, Monday, 2 February 2015 21:01 (nine years ago) link
Oh no, I'm definitely not that, believe me, you wouldn't believe some of the things Ive heard in the last couple of weeks!
― saer, Monday, 2 February 2015 21:09 (nine years ago) link
Saer you transcend all categories trust me
― Tim F, Monday, 2 February 2015 21:10 (nine years ago) link
category: woodland fauna
― saer, Monday, 2 February 2015 21:20 (nine years ago) link
I wish i could get out of my comfort zone. Want to be blown away by something NEW but nothing doing whenever i listen i just feel let down. I dont think im close minded but maybe i am with new music? (new as in current not new styles)
as nakh says 90% of my listening appears to people as metal but that is because i feel it is offering something new whilst rock/indie/electronic stuff that was always my bread and butter hasnt been offering as much to ME in recent years. I know these things can change as I went off metal in the late 90s and things turn around and good things can start happening again. As long as I keep looking. I'd hate to be one of those people who only likes old music.
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Tuesday, 3 February 2015 00:02 (nine years ago) link
NB i don't think it's important to follow scenes or listen to dj sets in fact its often really boring i think dog latin missed my pt upthread, all i meant was its fun to talk in a reductive way about music & culture more generally― flopson, Monday, February 2, 2015 6:10 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkalso people who are like i don't see colour I ain't got no type are usually kidding themselves a bit.I'll happily admit that given my taste in music and general ~listening history~ I think about music in fairly predictable ways.― Tim F, Monday, February 2, 2015 8:05 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― flopson, Monday, February 2, 2015 6:10 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Tim F, Monday, February 2, 2015 8:05 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Bit past the point now, but for the record, yes I'm agreeing with both these points.
― pig∞n (dog latin), Tuesday, 3 February 2015 00:04 (nine years ago) link
This Steve Gunn album is pretty good.
― o. nate, Sunday, 15 February 2015 02:44 (nine years ago) link
It is! I'd recommend his album "Time Off" slightly above that one though. Both are fantastic.
― Evan, Sunday, 15 February 2015 04:45 (nine years ago) link