Warren Beatty, washing machine

He did 'inspire' David Thomson's worst bk, tho'.

http://www.cinemastudio.com/moviegallery/bulworth.JPG

"You got half your kids are out of work and the other half are in jail. Do you see ANY Democrat doing anything about it? Certainly not me! So what're you gonna do, vote Republican? Come on! Come on, you're not gonna vote Republican! Let's call a spade a spade!
I mean - come on! You can have a Billion Man March! If you don't put down that malt liquor and chicken wings, and get behind someone other than a running back who stabs his wife, you're NEVER gonna get rid of somebody like me!"

And Beatty actually made a comic-strip movie that LOOKED like one, instead of these gr*phic n*vel basement-boy jizzfests. I love when he says to Tess, slipping out of the opera, "I'll be back, I wanna see how it comes out."

Re: comic strip movies that look like comic strips, be more specific about what you are talking about because you'll find that a lot of these movies DO look like exactly what they are based off of. Just because they're not the versions you like doesn't mean they aren't imitating the look of the comic. This is not a defense of Frank Fucking Miller, just a comment. Though I do have to say I preferred Batman Begins >>>>>>>> Tim Burton's first Batman flick.

Bulworth is not a great movie, and I find its attitude too diffident/distant/cynical/unserious (it's what you think about politics if your major role in it is going to Hollywood events and sending people lots of money), but at least he's trying and I liked it a lot the first time around (it doesn't hold up that well).

Dick Tracy is ridiculous, but I think seriously underrated. Also perhaps the role best-suited for him.

wrong!!!! you just like bale more than keaton!!!

http://www.famouslocations.com/images/movies/shampoo_.jpg

A sure sign of insanity.

'shampoo', 'shamPOO' more like.

I FUCKED 'EM ALL

I skimmed through a biography of the man in a bookstore...one of the best examples of how being successful in yr chosen field, being filthy rich, and having virtually unlimited access to yr choice of sexual partners does not equal "happiness"

it's the ultimate boomer movie

xpost

great movie. not as good as McCabe and Mrs. Miller tho. Or Bonnie and Clyde.

Still one of the best dressed men. I would kill to have his tailor who is oddly, Frank Foster, the now famous tailor responsible for fashionable skinheads (e.g. Nick Knight).

I could never understand what made him so desirable. Does he stick $20 bills in their vaginas?

...

I could never understand what made him so desirable. Does he stick $20 bills in their vaginas?

to paraphrase another actor: "I've got the TEETH, I've got the HAIR"

in Mark Harris' new book about the films of 1967, Beatty comes off as the only guy who could irritate Godard and Truffaut equally.

i think being handsome, rich, and famous does it for a lotta chicks.

he's a good-looking dude, of which there are no shortage of in Hollywood, obv...but, also, presumably he's managed to communicate a charismatic, sexay vibe

one of my favorite parts of the "Raging Bulls, Easy Riders" book is when it talks about him having whispery, hushed-toned late-night/early dawn conversations with Robert Towne. Please bring on the transcripts of that shit!

The only time I ever found him hawt was watching him learn Russian in Reds (then the scene with the dog barking killed it).

Think, alf, think. Not just hair or teeth. Skin. Clothes. Cheekbones. Manicure. Car. House. Power. Money. Fame. Not a lot of women can stand up to that package. xp

all those things do not add up to a big package.

one of my favorite parts of the "Raging Bulls, Easy Riders" book is when it talks about him having whispery, hushed-toned late-night/early dawn conversations with Robert Towne. Please bring on the transcripts of that shit!

The Lothario dialogues.

if you say so...

Uh?

Actor Warren Beatty has filed a federal suit for control of comic-strip detective Dick Tracy.

The film idol bought rights to the character two decades ago from the Tribune Company in order to make his 1990 hit movie version of the square-jawed, tough-talking gumshoe. The sale allowed Tribune, the original publishers of the classic strip, to take back the rights if Beatty didn’t film another project.

Tribune, which owns the Los Angeles Times, recently sent Beatty a letter saying time is up and it is reasserting control of the character. But the actor claims he should retain the rights because he started filming a Dick Tracy TV special earlier this month.

His attorney declined to say where or when the program will air, but insists the 71-year-old is far from done with the detective.

“Warren has always viewed Dick Tracy as a very valuable, interesting iconic character,” said attorney Charles Shephard. “He has all sorts of creative thoughts about what he might do with this character.”

Great. The Dark Detective.

18 years? Sounds like he needed to stop dicking around.

'And all I do now...'

^^^ remove the humour and that's what Chinese Democracy sounds like...

haha

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20334160,00.html

he nobbed 13,000 women (possibly)

I'd like to see the author's research on that one.

like to see beatty's prescription bills more like.

VIAGRA right?!?!

to be fair 12,500 of them were before age 40.

yeah no i meant clap medicine and whatnot.

and also... VIAGRA.

figure does NOT include "daytime quickies"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/03/warren-beatty-slept-with-_n_409655.html

the story gets plausibler and plausibler.

i'd like to see his prescription.. for picking up women!

it's like one different woman a day for 35 years

http://gawker.com/5439473/warren-beatty-i-did-not-have-sex-with-13000-women?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+gawker/full+(Gawker)

the NY Times had a tiny boring item on this that named a lot of Beatty's well-known lovers as "alleged" -- Caron, Keaton, Christie, Madonna etc. However it left out Vivien Leigh and Molly Ringwald.

Never understood his appeal. Not a bit. He looked like poached salmon, even as a yute.

nyt should do a special bit naming all 13,000, 9/11 style.

hahah

or nightline... just ted koppel reading out every name in a hushed reverent voice

"Julia Child... Melinda Dillon... Butterfly McQueen..."

lol

http://consequenceofsound.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/u2_cuarta_etapa_20020203_superbowl_actuacion_03_nombres.jpg

"He banged them in the WTC, United 93, Pentagon...nothing stopped Warren..."

Don't those kind of statistics suggest he's also had at least 300 men, if only by accident?

Somewhere up in heaven, Wilt Chamberlain is stifling a yawn.

how strange would it be to fuck 13k people

and wearing

Beatty has lived the suicide bomber afterlife

maybe theyre not virgins but gdamn theres 13 thousand ok

72 virgins v 13k sluts

Nice analysis of Reds.

WARREN BEATTY says he’ll spare no expense on his son’s education – but he refuses to spend a single cent on gender reassignment surgery.

Warren and his wife Annette Bening have told their 20-year-old son Stephen Ira – born Kathlyn – that they’ll even pay the living expenses and tuition bill for an advanced degree, but that’s where the free ride stops!

“Warren is ada­mant about not shelling out any of his hard-earned mon­ey for Stephen’s sex-change operation,” a family friend told The ENQUIRER. “The whole concept of gender-bending is very difficult for Warren to accept. While he’s finally come to terms with his little girl living life as a man, he can’t fathom the thought of paying for the actual procedure.”

“Warren and Annette both agreed they’ll pay for Stephen’s schooling. He’s basically on his own after that.”

one of the first real big road markers of adulthood is paying for yr own sex change

one of the first real big road markers of adulthood is paying for yr own sex change

ty boo

http://www.showbiz411.com/2014/02/12/warren-beattys-untitled-howard-hughes-film-moving-forward-at-last

Is this the longest 'break' a prominent film director has had (~17 years), next to Malick (20)?

https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/l/t1/1743565_687424257986278_1025680851_n.jpg

Brett Ratner producing...

Done:

http://www.showbiz411.com/2014/06/08/warren-beatty-wraps-74-day-shoot-on-howard-hughes-movie

Beatty hasn’t made or been in a movie since he directed himself in “Town and Country” in 1991.

lol he didn't direct town & country, and it was released in like '01, not '91

bulworth was indeed his last triple threat film

Didn't he unofficially take over T&C and run it into the ground?

i'm glad that the christopher nolan/jim carrey howard hughes movie never happened.

He was reportedly offered “Kill Bill Pt. 1″ by Quentin Tarantino, but turned it down

huh hadn't heard about this but can totally see him in that role actually. although Carradine is a better casting choice overall.

“More than a quarter century after he brought Dick Tracy to the screen, Warren Beatty is considering making a sequel,” reports James Rainey for Variety. Meantime, we can “expect a fall or winter release for Beatty’s long-gestating passion project, the yet-to-be-titled [Howard] Hughes film.”

“I’m serious about it, but I am slow about these things.”

http://variety.com/2016/film/news/warren-beatty-dick-tracy-howard-hughes-movie-1201752997/

Fall or Winter when?

if he doesn't re-edit and reshoot after the test screenings...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1974420/fullcredits?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm

beatty is 80 years old, i'm not sure how much time he thinks he has to mull over a 'dick tracy' sequel...

that said i'm down w/ REDS and i'm really curious to see this new film.

"Congratulations! You've Outlived Your Dick (Tracy)!"

Would love a Reds interview.

the last DVD had one w/ WB

oh right! I watched that print ten years ago.

digital is not a 'print'

neither is pedantry

private eyes are watching you

I really want to watch Reds (I have the DVD! Somewhere!). Parenthood is not yet compatible with a four hour movie though.

yeah, and it's def. the kind of movie you want to watch in one sitting (although IIRC there's a built-in intermission)

195 minutes, or about 40 more than the next Captain America movie

It's not very good but it's an Important Movie, and it's one of the few times I'll claim that I admire a director's risk.

yeah I wasn't that impressed with Reds the last time I watched it, much as I admire Beatty and his other work during that period in particular.

like Heaven Can Wait?

btw between The Fortune (75) and Ishtar (87), the only films WB did are the two we just mentioned.

A good while back I caught on tv a good chunk of $ (Dollars), an early 70s German-set heist movie w/Beatty, Goldie Hawn, and a bunch of local character actors who appeared to be waiting for Fassbinder to cast them in something. Was intriguing, but I've yet to revisit.

https://scottross79.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/hawn-beatty-19539188_20131022180903523.jpg

strange that was a Richard Brooks joint, given his rep for heavier prestige fare (In Cold Blood, Looking for Mr Goodbar).

It's one of those few ill-regarded Beatty films i never felt the urge to check out, ditto The Only Game in Town w/ Liz Taylor -- that was George Stevens' last movie!

I do like Heaven Can Wait! Tho I was referring more to the 70s generally (yes I know Redds is '81), had forgotten Reds was essentially the end of that period of his career

essentially the end of his career, period. Ishtar and Dick Tracy beckoned.

both films that are trying to do stuff, whatever the results. DT is a good movie, Madonna aside.

(Warren also has the best dialogue in Truth or Dare).

DT is def interesting, idk if it works but as a unique oddity it's noteworthy

Ishtar's better than DT. It's not great but I don't get its reputation as a turkey other than by people who read Variety.

i think REDS is enormously impressive on its own terms! it's one of the most intelligent and involving of those big sprawling epic films (that were already way out of fashion in the early 1980s)

Up to a point. That damn dog scratching the bedroom door and Diane Keaton hiking across the tundra might disagree.

nah, i like that stuff. go big or go home!

I think Ishtar was drubbed because losing money is a surefire way to get hated in Hollywood. When they put up big upfront $$ they demand big $$ results.

i remember laughing fitfully for the first 45 minutes of Ishtar, and not much after that.

also i love Elaine May, but her working 'methods' seem utterly nuts esp in postproduction

I want to see Ishtar. I have Mikey And Nicky here waiting to be watched, too.

mikey and nicky is great. ishtar has become kind of overrated as an overcorrection in some quarters though not nearly as much as say heaven's gate. it received a high degree of notoriety as a flop because it had a long and troubled production so the pump was primed, it was dustin hoffman's first movie since tootsie and warren beatty's first movie since reds so it was kind of an event and frankly there were alot of ppl ready to take joy in those two flopping esp w/ beatty, who still had a kind of aura around him as not just a movie star (esp since around this time his buddy gary hart looked like he would be the next president). town and country (look it up) was a bigger disaster on all counts but by then america had moved on to ben affleck for their smug pretty boy kicks so instead of talking about town and country we talk about gigli.

don't forget Love Affair.

Stevie, if you have Mikey and Nicky to watch on this UK DVD, I would hold off - the image quality is atrocious, and utterly ruins the film:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mikey-Nicky-DVD-Peter-Falk/dp/B000062Y53?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0

Mickey One is fascinating btw

A good while back I caught on tv a good chunk of $ (Dollars), an early 70s German-set heist movie w/Beatty, Goldie Hawn, and a bunch of local character actors who appeared to be waiting for Fassbinder to cast them in something. Was intriguing, but I've yet to revisit.

I notice that one of the main actors is the dude from "The Goalkeeper's Fear of the Penalty Kick".

Ishtar also cost whatever ($100 million?) and no one under 30 wanted to see a big-budget spin on Hope & Crosby.

Isn't odd that there's only one mention way up top of Splendor in the Grass? William Inge is kind of the quintessential acclaimed middlebrow dramatist of that era, but it's quite a time capsule of how sex & youth was regarded in 1961.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/53/44/af/5344af1a97cae14b50f86cdf871cbc9b.jpg

thanks for the warning Ward!

gets a title & a release date

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1974420/

Bening, Alec Baldwin, Haley Bennett, Candice Bergen, Matthew Broderick, Dabney Coleman, Steve Coogan, Taissa Farmiga, Ed Harris, Megan Hilty, Oliver Platt, and Martin Sheen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1JrMOiG5hc

I get the distinct impression that the actors making that movie had a lot more fun making it than any of its viewers will have in viewing it.

“Peter Lawford invited Beatty out to his house in Malibu for a night of tacos and poker, and Monroe was there. ‘I hadn’t seen anything that beautiful,’ Beatty recalls. She invited him to take a walk along the beach, which he did.”

In a presumed reference to their stroll. Beatty tells Kashner “it was more soulful than romantic.”

“Back in the house he played the piano. Marilyn sat on the edge of the piano in something so clingy that Beatty could tell she wasn’t wearing underwear. ‘How old are you?’ she asked. ‘Twenty-five,’ he answered. ‘How old are you?” he asked cheekily. ‘Three…six,’ she said, as if not wanting to bring the two numbers together.

“By then the tacos had arrived, and no one really played poker that night. Warren noticed that Marilyn was already a bit tipsy from champagne, even before the sun had set.

“The next day Harold Mirisch, brother of the producer Walter Mirisch, called. ‘Did you hear?’ he asked. ‘Marilyn Monroe is dead.’ Warren was one of the last people to see Marilyn alive — a story Beatty tells only reluctantly.”

http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/10/warren-beatty-interview

He doesn’t smoke or drink and has taken good care of himself over the decades. “If you see pictures of me smoking,” he said as we drove up the canyon, “I was acting. What I do like very much is the smell of cigar smoke.” He had the distinction of being sent a box of cigars by none other than Fidel Castro, who admired Reds. “They were just unbelievable. I smoked one every night after dinner, and I talked until four A.M.”...

“There’s this misapprehension that it’s a biopic,” Beatty explains, “which it’s not, although Howard is an important character in it. I wanted to do a story about a girl who comes from being the Apple Blossom Queen of Winchester, Virginia [Marla Mabrey, played by Lily Collins], and a boy who is a Methodist from Fresno [Frank Forbes, played by Alden Ehrenreich], who is under the same religious influences that I was raised in. I wanted to do a story about that young man and that young woman that also deals with money and misogyny in late-1950s Hollywood.”

One doesn’t immediately associate Beatty with puritanical guilt and repression, but that is the world he grew up in, in conservative Virginia in the 1940s and 50s, and the one he has rebelled against his entire life. “I’m afraid it still remains a big subject in America,” he says, “which often makes us the laughingstock of France and other European countries. So I thought this would be fun to deal with—a young man and a young woman involved with an unpredictable billionaire, who had no rules he had to follow because of his inheritance and his way of life. So it’s also about the effect of Hollywood on those rules, and the effect of money.”

which often makes us the laughingstock of France and other European countries. So I thought this would be fun to deal wit

who gives a fuck what France thinks about us lol

The story of a young man coming to Hollywood from a conservative background is one he knows all too well. He and his sister, the actress Shirley MacLaine, were raised by Southern Baptist parents.

wow how the hell did i never know this?

I will never know why so women found Beatty hot. I don't see or feel it. Good hair though!

this is still my favorite lyric from "we didn't start the fire"

wow how the hell did i never know this?

I've always been fascinated by this tidbit. both seem like p fucked up people tbh

They lived in my neighborhood, and went to my daughter's school.

ever classy Shakes. i think the fact that they are alive and functioning after 60 years in that whirlpool attests to some sort of tenacious strength.

lookin fwd to the film

also WB praised his transgender son as a hero in that profile

beatty seems pretty chill, seems to have had an enviable life and career if that's the kind of life and career you're going for.

lol sorry to offend your delicate sensibilities Morbz, my wife just finished Shirley's daughter's autobio which does not paint a flattering portrait. I am a big fan of both of their bodies of work in general fwiw.

i'm sure Shirl can be a pain in the ass, i watched Letterman

less pain in the ass and more like narcissistic dimbulb

Shirley MacLaine is cool

that movie is already gone from NYC. The box office numbers are really awful.

http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Rules-Dont-Apply#tab=box-office

I missed the screening; saw the Annette Bening motherhood '70s movie instead. Not sure I chose wisely.

The film ended up grossing $1.6 million in its opening weekend (with a five-day total of $2.2 million), finishing 12th at the box office. It marked the worst Thanksgiving debut ever for a wide release and 6th worst opening ever for a film playing in more than 2,000 theaters.

saw the Annette Bening motherhood '70s movie instead. Not sure I chose wisely.

this is like a rock v hard place deal except neither choice is as interesting as a rock

Rules Don't Apply
Budget: $25,000,000
Gross: $3,580,979

Ishtar [adjusted for inflation]
Budget: $117,034,290
Gross: $30,588,910

(I know he didn't direct the latter, but just for comparison's sake.)

$25M is low-budget for a period piece.

I've been meaning to watch Reds for years and years. I'm unlikely to have 4 hours to spare to watch it in one go, would it ruin it if I tried to watch it episodically?

if you must, I would go with halves; there's an intermission. It's only 3:20.

That sounds do-able, thanks Morbs.

Rules is not bad! All three principals are pretty good, in fact. Steve Coogan has one very funny scene in a cockpit while HH sings a Jolson medley.

Steve Mnuchin was a producer and has a wordless cameo (alongside a small gem of an Oliver Platt performance).

Beatty literally closes the curtain on his career in his last scene, works as a masked autobiography in many ways.

80 today!

the Karl story:

http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/02/warren-beatty-pauline-kael-love-and-money

didn't know the lead actress in RDA was Paperlate's daughter

good take here:

http://www.csmonitor.com/The-Culture/Movies/2016/1123/Rules-Don-t-Apply-Warren-Beatty-s-directorial-return-is-disarmingly-light

rewatched Dick Tracy; love Pacino, Headly, the production design/effects and most of the jokes.

don't like La Ciccone and the loudness/replication of Burton's Batman in the last half hour (down to Elfman scoring it).

this is the best Sondheim song in it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDUZgORmrSY

Yeah thats about how i feel about it too

Madonna has one good line reading where she sez about the Kid "What a cute little boy," like she wants to smother him.

She is a terrible actress

well she's not even a compelling presence in this

This works:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJN5DO4Lvx0

https://variety.com/2018/film/news/beatty-rules-dont-apply-test-audience-ethnic-1202935368/

“I’m not looking for acclaim for the movie,” wrote Beatty, who is 81. “The movie will be recognized for what it is. It’s that I want money to come back to our investors to cover the P&A shortfall, in order to compensate them for the mistake of our finally gambling on a higher awareness for a movie starring two unknown young people and an old guy who hasn’t been on the theatrical screen for 15 years.”

That article is great, I loved Rules Don't Apply

“One possibility discussed was that the public was just not interested in the film, its stars, or its subject matter.”

My conclusions about Reds since my second viewing in 2006 remain unchanged: a confused movie made by a guy attracted to capital-I-ideas filtered through Old Hollywood notions of chivalry and moviemaking. When Jack Reed is burning dinner or bumping his head against chandeliers, I want to bury the DVD in the backyard. While the film captures Reed's magnetism (from what I've read about him), it misses his energy and commitment. To a degree I admire that Beatty, a product of the mummified remains of the studio system, conceived of Reed as a passive force, to the point of being topped by Lousie whenever they fuck often in the second half (their sex drives increase as the Revolution triumphs, yet anothe of the film's howlers).

Also, the film has no clue what to do about Louise Bryant. Is she untalented, hence her anger? Is he a frustrated talent? Is he Annie Hall, yelling "fuck" and throwing things and gibbering la-dee-da to herself?"

*is she

Just now had a vague memory of something about the way the talking heads were presented in Zelig being a critique of the way this was done in Reds.

Proud to say I still have my Rules Don’t Apply cocktail glasses, commemorating a movie I enjoy https://t.co/XKqX2P3kcd pic.twitter.com/SDZiLZork1

— Splat! Prigge (@mattprigge) October 25, 2019

It’s a good movie

https://screencrush.com/warren-beatty-dick-tracy-special-2023/

In Dick Tracy Special: Tracy Zooms In, TCM host Ben Mankiewicz invites film critic Leonard Maltin over to his office as he prepares for a Zoom call with the famous comic strip and movie cop, Dick Tracy. Tracy (Beatty) calls Mankiewicz and Maltin on Zoom — Beatty is seated in a black void while wearing Tracy’s trademark yellow hat and overcoat — first to compliment Mankiewicz on an interview he did with Beatty for TCM some time earlier. Then “Dick Tracy” explains his issues with the movie Beatty made about him in 1990, while he watches clips from the film. A good five minutes of this 30 minute show were literally just Warren Beatty dressed as Dick Tracy watching the Dick Tracy movie while muttering things like “Yes! Yes, that’s good!” and “No! No! That’s terrible!”

...

2023’s Tracy Zooms In special builds to Maltin adding the “real” Warren Beatty to the Zoom call, and — as Mankiewicz and Maltin look on in disbelief — the two Beattys get into a rambling debate about the Dick Tracy movie and moviemaking in general.

it's fucking great and is making me wanna rewatch Dick Tracy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwYcwB_deG8

if i were warren beatty, i would get two dozen of these outfits made and not wear anything but
he should also go back to dating madonna

excellent, thx. this was the first movie i saw in a theater in america and still one of my favorite movies of all time.

Everytime Madonna comes onscreen=Tracy: "No no no..."

30 seconds no more Dick