Worst state in the US

answer has and always will be texas

Ann Richards, Molly Ivins, Jim Hightower, Ralph Yarborough, Ray Wiley Hubbard, the 13th Floor Elevators, Willie Nelson, the Rothko Chapel
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Marilyn Manson, Marco Rubio

I can think of some people who are being let off the first list

I agree w/ you both that it's between texas and florida tho

Worst U.S. State
Which is the worst state in the United States of America

florida by a nose seems fair, it's def worse on a per capita basis

proud Mexican-American population turning the state blue eventually
v
Cuban exiles making the rest of the country pretend to give a shit about Florida/Cuba

come on, az's gotta be in the running these days

awww, didn't realize it had been that long I would have made a real poll

yeah arizona got 1 and 0 votes in those two polls, pretty sure that wouldn't happen today

Florida wins, have lived 4+ years in FL, TX, IN, & KS so I feel I have some perspective here

if you told me that, say, Lawrence KS is a better town than anyplace in Florida I'd gladly believe you

Happy 100th anniversary, Arizona.
"WE WEREN'T ALWAYS THE WORST"

Texas is way too big to be the worst.

feel like Texas should get a pass because of Oklahoma - everything you conceivably hate about Texas without any of the good stuff

central Florida is worse than both Miami & the panhandle because it doesn't even have beaches but it still has lots of roaches, ghastly weather, & too many old people still.

well the 'texas is the worst' argument is based on it having the highest total quantity of worstness

i think arizona has been winning this in my mind for a couple years now

feel like Texas should get a pass because of Oklahoma - everything you conceivably hate about Texas without any of the good stuff

― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, April 24, 2012 10:34 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

p much

I love Florida, it's full of the commercial crassness and development everyone hates but there's something about the semi-tropical air down there. I would never vote Florida!

gonna defer to bugs bunny on this one

it doesn't even have beaches but it still has lots of roaches,

nominating this for fake Hold Steady Lyrics

lawrence kansas is pretty cool!

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

if you told me that, say, Lawrence KS is a better town than anyplace in Florida I'd gladly believe you

Lawrence is better than anyplace i've been in FL, try wichita and we're talking

lol i actually thought "i'm going to vote for florida" as i clicked on the thread expecting to see all 50 states as poll options

also, orlando and tampa are both worse than panhandle and miami

connecticut is the worst state u guys

texas is awesome, florida is unique

for me to poop on

there's a reason they call it "the sunshine's taint"

proud Mexican-American population turning the state blue eventually

You're only allowed to say eventually if you expect to see it in your lifetime.

whites already are <50% in texas and hispanics will def become the majority demographic in our lifetime

texas would be a fine place w/o white people really

I understand that. Those proud Hispanics still live in metropolitan cities whose congressional districts look like a Trivia Pursuit pie designed by rural and suburban Republicans.

cool demos guys

well that's true everywhere, but at least as far as presidential elections go, which is usually what 'go blue' refers to, texas is def a swing state by 2020

i think it's an odd assumption that most "proud Hispanics" aren't Republicans

dont mess w

I thought Texas sucked until I moved here. Like it a lot so far.

Florida and CT both suck balls though.

are you a proud hispanic?

No.

it's not just an assumption:

As of December 2010, 65% of Latino voters were registered as Democrats and 22% Republican.

not sure how "pride" skews this, but...

I've seen in texas that Republicans play to the fact that most Hispanics are catholic and largely anti-abortion, as well as with other moral issues, even if their interest aren't really at the heart with what Hispanics want from a representative.

'did you know we might have similar views on some subjects' is not gonna cut it when the gop base is 'racists'

the republican portion of the latino vote is disproportionately cuban, so in states where the cuban population is low, the hispanic vote is even more strongly democratic

bbq is good

bbq is good

connecticut is the worst state u guys

― lag∞n, Friday, April 27, 2012 10:10 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

f u man ct is pretty awesome

haha sry but i h8 conn

what we do

yeah i mean is there anything specifically wrong with CT or is it a vague 'new england sucks in general, let's pick on one state with no obvious saving grace' thing

Tough call -- there are more places in FL than TX that would tempt me into venturing into the state. But Texas' temptation (Austin/Lockhart) is stronger.

I don't know if it's a hipster cliche or something but I'd like to visit Marfa.

i lived most of my life p close to conn so its not just a vague distaste, its hard to put into words cause theres just something abt it

1 theres no there there
2 wasps, i think the worst wasps, worse than mass wasps, w/their boats
3 southern connecticut 1% land
4 its biggest citys primary industry is... insurance

idk its poopy, i got depressed riding through there on the train the other day

i remember as a kid always being told not to speed when in connecticut (a place one only ever drove through, so useful advice). implication that CT was always ready to fuck with u. plus taco mayor.

http://image1.masterfile.com/em_w/02/63/87/619-02638718w.jpg

what I find interesting are the like, trashy not-rich wasp, it's like the ct version of jersey trash

you forgot joe liebermann, but yeah even living in the northeast pt of the state for the last 5 years i understand those vibes. both statewide and nationally (liebermann excepted) our politics aren't terrible tho

i would go so far as to claim that texas is one of the better states for eating, Austin, Houston, Port Arthur, Del Rio, the Hill Country the Valley, Corpus, Galveston, even Dallas and Lubbock all have distinct food to offer. and you can dig up great records still in texas

i dunno that all sounds like generic lol new england stuff to me -- is there some way that vermont or new hampshire is way better or exzempt from the same kind of ire?

what I find interesting are the like, trashy not-rich wasp, it's like the ct version of jersey trash

― iatee, Friday, April 27, 2012 11:11 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lots of jersey ppl go to school here so the distinction sometimes is nonexistent

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paging max xp

wow i really forgot how to spell exempt for a sec there

vermont and new hampshire are not huge suburbs for nyc financial industry

http://www.greenwichtime.com/news/article/1-in-7-cars-in-Greenwich-a-BMW-or-Mercedes-3340419.php

i dunno that all sounds like generic lol new england stuff to me -- is there some way that vermont or new hampshire is way better or exzempt from the same kind of ire?

― some dude, Friday, April 27, 2012 11:15 PM (59 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

vt n nh r p diff than ct, none of the things on my list apply to them particularly, ct is like only half new england culturally really and even then there are a lot of differences w/in that

ct has a vaguely disapproving vibe

fair enough -- i genuinely don't know that area well and am being mostly curious and only somewhat facetious and difficult here (xpost)

it's just a huge foresty rich person suburb w/ some boats

ct has a vaguely disapproving vibe

― Lamp, Friday, April 27, 2012 11:22 PM (12 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well that is p generally new englandy

partly i just think it's hilarious when these areas are carved up into tiny little states that people pretend are more culturally distinct from each other than they really are -- i mean i lived in delaware for years and i can go on and on about what the delaware vibe is but when you get down to it it could really easily be a shitty coastal part of pennsyvlvania or maryland

vt is legit beautiful ime although nh is kinda w/e it still has a more authentic new england backwoods charm. i grew up in a really lovely part of ct but its unrelentingly square and ersatz colonial

you could make an argument for the southern ne states being somewhat indistinguishable and the northern ones too but theres a p strong rural/urban divide between the two groups that makes them quite different

no way, all the southern states are a bit larger and have more obvious landmarks and cultural identities that distinguish them from each other

if u see boston u know ur in massachusetts

obviously, i didn't say ALL new england states

im actually not clear on what youre saying tbh

yeah neither am i, i misspelled exempt for fucks sake, i should quit while i'm ahead

yeah theres some v real demographic differences btw at least like western/southern ct and vt/nh its just denser and more suburbanized and richer, more tied to nyc, more ahistorical.

like i can kinda see jhos points in that lots of ct is sorta indistinguishable from any rich whites and assimilated jews colony anywhere, vt and nh are a lot more rooted in new england

what part of ct, lamp?

CT just got rid of the death penalty, so no way could it be on the list of worst anything.

that's not true it's the worst at having the death penalty

yeah, just in time not to execute those fucks who burned those teenage girls to death in a home-invasion robbery? Way to fucking go CT.

am I the only ILXer who still lives in Florida?

btw the majority of Cubans are Republicans because of a mistaken belief that the GOP strings them along less than Dems (while the older ones still complain about The Kennedy Betrayal). But Cubans could give a shit about abortion (most are pro-choice) and gay rights.

yeah, just in time not to execute those fucks who burned those teenage girls to death in a home-invasion robbery? Way to fucking go CT.

― frogsclovetofu (beachville), Saturday, April 28, 2012 4:30 AM (5 hours ago)

your reactionary rage may live on - the law applies only prospectively, unfortunately. those two aren't gonna be executed either way tho

I had a nightmare involving me living in Orlando. Sean "The Heartbreak Kid" was in it.

Florida has the Magic Kingdom and lots of beaches and cute manatees, but 95% of the people who live there are basically human shit

not sure I'd count Walt Disney World as part of Florida tbh; it's a sovereign country.

Alfred, Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo lives in Florida.

am I the only ILXer who still lives in Florida?

― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, April 28, 2012 7:42 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

how many have been killed by "stand your ground" laws so far?

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think bojax lives near orlando

no jaymc

vt is legit beautiful ime

― Lamp

yeah I drove through either NH or VT on my way to montreal once and it was a really beautiful state

CT, otoh, well I'm only familiar with southern CT but it's pretty blah

*looks out window* its p nice

texas is pretty outstanding. fla is terrible. not as bad as AZ, which admittedly has tucson and good scenery but not much else.

I still think it's hilaire that NJ has the highest population density out of all the states, despite having no major cities, america is just so big man

arizona is amazing for the natural beauty alone

if you were going ct>mtl that wouldve been vt dayo

arizona has steve nash. he'll probably be in florida next year tho

I was going PA -> montreal xp

Alaska 1.264 inhabitants per square mile

i would like to visit alaska

remember crossing some cool bridges, very cool, would cross again

a rerun of the 30 rock episode "i heart connecticut" is coming on comedy central in a few minutes, as it happens

I was going PA -> montreal xp

― dayo, Saturday, April 28, 2012 10:46 AM (17 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

new york state? p short detour to vt tho

new york state? p short detour to vt tho

― lag∞n, Saturday, April 28, 2012 10:47 AM (10 seconds ago) Bookmark

it's all coming back to me... I think we had to pick somebody up in springfield MA so we went a little more easterward - if that's true, then we probably drove through VT

yep

The old run up 91 to 89 to Montreal. Good times.

not as bad as AZ, which admittedly has tucson and good scenery but not much else.

― omar little, Saturday, April 28, 2012 7:44 AM (33 minutes ago)

Tucson is great and I dig living here but it's not some kind of oasis from the issues the rest of Arizona is facing. Por ejemplo, Tucson Unified School District has been part of a desegregation case since 1978:

In 1978, plaintiffs Mendoza and Fisher were told that TUSD would be required to remedy the ill effects of past segregation within the district. They could not have known that their fight for equality was only just beginning. What was initially presented as a five-year desegregation plan stretched into 30 years. In 2009 TUSD was granted unified status and released from court supervision despite the court finding it had “failed to act in good faith in its ongoing operation of the District under the Settlement Agreement.”

TUSD began operating under its Post-Unitary Status Plan, which promised that the district’s MAS program would be expanded. TUSD did support the existing MAS program, but it failed to follow through on its promise of expansion. Because TUSD also abandoned other important policies outlined in the plan, the court revoked the district’s unified status in 2011, saying it had failed to act in good-faith compliance with the order to integrate schools-yet again.

sorry, it was originally filed by the NAACP in 1974.
1974!

A few Florida highlights: Gulf coast beaches and towns, the Everglades in winter, the giant Bryan Ferry poster in my living room.

Sorry to anyone who lives there but the only time I ever went to Arkansas (Little Rock) it really seemed like a bad alternate dimension.

i drove through some v beautiful places in arkansas once, missouri tho seems like it might be p bad

yeah I thought arkansas was pretty

oklahoma is the real wasteland

I also heard that Florida was crazy but it was the panhandle were all the bad craziness went on

xp

OK has Tulsa & OK City and a buncha great Route 66 stuff still

i spent like a week in okla once including drive clear across it, it has some character imho, i still vote missouri, the show me state is def our most repugnant state motto

That corner of OK, Arkansas and Missouri is quite pretty. Driving through the Ozarks down to Fayetteville and across to Tulsa was a joy.

You can always find something good to say about any shitty state.

its true connecticut has many beautiful things too

I think I posted this on another thread, but a point in Oklahoma City's favor is the street named after Charlie Christian:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/df/CharlieChristianAve.JPG/220px-CharlieChristianAve.JPG

Alfred, what are the Everglades like during the winter? What are the best gulf coast towns iyo?

I adore Sanibel and Captiva islands. Tarpon Springs too.

The Everglades are much cooler in January. I would not recommend a nature walk or air boat in July.

Sorry to anyone who lives there but the only time I ever went to Arkansas (Little Rock) it really seemed like a bad alternate dimension.

Would like to hear more about this. Not as a defensive citizen of the LR Metro, but as a fan of bad alternate dimensions.

And Abbott, if you think Tucson's bad for having a deseg crisis more than 35 years old, our school district is still in the courts over 1957. Which is really weird because as the Little Rock School District tries to keep itself as close to 50/50 b/w, it offers this "majority-to-minority" rule where white kids from other districts can go to LR schools since LR schools are more like 60/40 black. Works out for my family.

I've only been to the NE once, a round-trip from NYC to Bennington, VT, to Concord, NH, to Portland, ME back to Boston, Providence and CT. CT just looked like one big suburb to me and it didn't help that my only stop was at a Friendly's for dinner.

Can i just say here how much I hate that red state/blue state designation? It always confuses me 'cause here in Canada "red" = Liberal & "blue" = Conservative.

I kinda think Conservatives got the better color. You want to be RED or do you want to be ~blue~ ;_;.

* Post cold war, obv

Florida has a few things going for it, as does Texas. OK for the win (lose).

You know what state I know nothing about? Idaho. What's the deal with Idaho?

Xpost most of populated America looks like a strip mall. The prettiest places are the ones with no people.

The state with the prettiest name,
the state that floats in brackish water,
held together by mangrave roots
that bear while living oysters in clusters,
and when dead strew white swamps with skeletons,
dotted as if bombarded, with green hummocks
like ancient cannon-balls sprouting grass.
The state full of long S-shaped birds, blue and white,
and unseen hysterical birds who rush up the scale
every time in a tantrum.
Tanagers embarrassed by their flashiness,
and pelicans whose delight it is to clown;
who coast for fun on the strong tidal currents
in and out among the mangrove islands
and stand on the sand-bars drying their damp gold wings
on sun-lit evenings.
Enormous turtles, helpless and mild,
die and leave their barnacled shells on the beaches,
and their large white skulls with round eye-sockets
twice the size of a man's.
The palm trees clatter in the stiff breeze
like the bills of the pelicans. The tropical rain comes down
to freshen the tide-looped strings of fading shells:
Job's Tear, the Chinese Alphabet, the scarce Junonia,
parti-colored pectins and Ladies' Ears,
arranged as on a gray rag of rotted calico,
the buried Indian Princess's skirt;
with these the monotonous, endless, sagging coast-line
is delicately ornamented.

Thirty or more buzzards are drifting down, down, down,
over something they have spotted in the swamp,
in circles like stirred-up flakes of sediment
sinking through water.
Smoke from woods-fires filters fine blue solvents.
On stumps and dead trees the charring is like black velvet.
The mosquitoes
go hunting to the tune of their ferocious obbligatos.
After dark, the fireflies map the heavens in the marsh
until the moon rises.
Cold white, not bright, the moonlight is coarse-meshed,
and the careless, corrupt state is all black specks
too far apart, and ugly whites; the poorest
post-card of itself.
After dark, the pools seem to have slipped away.
The alligator, who has five distinct calls:
friendliness, love, mating, war, and a warning--
whimpers and speaks in the throat
of the Indian Princess.

I've only been to the NE once, a round-trip from NYC to Bennington, VT, to Concord, NH, to Portland, ME back to Boston, Providence and CT. CT just looked like one big suburb to me and it didn't help that my only stop was at a Friendly's for dinner.

― pplains, Saturday, April 28, 2012 2:11 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wth were u doin

xxpost Well depression's no fun, but neither is anger, really. Kinda never cared for either red nor blue overmuch, as far as apolitical nonemotional colo(u)r preference goes.

GREEN ftw! (Coincidentally how I voted last election too, lol)

Maybe not even a suburb, CT. I'm used to miles and miles of access roads with Best Buys and Texas Roadhouses. Those are a blight, sure.

But in CT, I felt like I was driving past miles and miles of fenced backyards and overpasses barely 12 feet tall.

I looked it up - I was on the Merritt Parkway. Not saying it was ugly, just amazing that it never felt once like I was out of the burbs, especially after a week of driving around Vermont, NH and Maine.

wth were u doin

chick in portland, but that's neither here nor there.

oh ha i thought u meant u drove between all those places and only stopped at friendlies

merritt pkwy is a quality road imho, no trucks allowed

merrit parkway is awesome

such a stark contrast to 95

Sorry to anyone who lives there but the only time I ever went to Arkansas (Little Rock) it really seemed like a bad alternate dimension.

Would like to hear more about this. Not as a defensive citizen of the LR Metro, but as a fan of bad alternate dimensions.

I don't know, I was on tour and we only spent a day or so. I got off a bus in downtown Little Rock on a Saturday night in the summertime and the whole way in the place was just eerily unpopulated. Nobody, absolutely nobody, was walking around, hanging out, or anything at all. When we got out of the bus there was one old guy that stepped out of a video store and told us we were in the middle of nowhere. All the kids we met were real nice and it was fun, but everyone seemed to have kind of given up in general or something. I don't know, weird vibes.

But yeah basing a perception on a state on one day's experience with a dozen or so locals. Kinda silly.

such a stark contrast to 95

― dayo, Saturday, April 28, 2012 2:32 PM (35 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah it doesnt have the malls n casual dining chains cause it parallels 95 where they all are

Yeah, downtown N/LR can give off a "Night of the Comet" vibe sometimes. I hear ya.

I took Merritt to get off of 95. Just didn't realize that it wasn't a backroad, I guess.

One of my favorite vacations. Drove up to Brooklyn. Took the really long way to Portland. Had an interesting time which included a cameo appearance by 80s rock band The Tubes. Drove too quickly back through Boston/RI/CT and back to NYC.

Then back home where Tennessee really is the longest state east of the Mississippi.

vt is legit beautiful ime although nh is kinda w/e it still has a more authentic new england backwoods charm. i grew up in a really lovely part of ct but its unrelentingly square and ersatz colonial

― Lamp, Friday, April 27, 2012 10:24 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nh is so much more raw than vt, maybe not as bucolic but the most scenic parts owne

whites >>> greens, fuiud

racist

new hampshire is the worst because of their presidential primaries tbh

isn't it filled w/ libertarians

gbx went to dartmouth and is best friends w/dick cheney fyi so take that into consideration when weighing his important vt/nh opinions

^^
..
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he did dick cheney's open-heart surgery, didn't you know?!?

dick cheney shot gbx in the face?

all of my grandparents live in ct and when i read lag∞n's thing about wasps i did not even think of WASPs because i remembered there were a lot of wasps in my grandma's backyard and said to myself, "i didn't know that all of connecticut had a lot of wasps"

just try to get out of that state w/o getting a nasty sting u cant

i went to mystic seaport when i was a little kid, and to a fancy hotel there about 10 years ago for a convention. those two times are the only significant amounts of time i've ever spent in CT.

ct has the best pizza and it has beaches with lots of jellyfish

mystic seaport is cool

groton not so much

You know what state I know nothing about? Idaho. What's the deal with Idaho?

I live extremely close to Idaho and kind of love it because it's amazingly beautiful and has a lot of cool stuff going for it and think it's pretty underrated in a lot of ways.

On the other hand it's very reactionary in a crazy libertarian way in the north and in a religious nutjob way in the south and combining these turns it into one of those states that means it'll be like one of the last five to ever legalize gay marriage.

It does seem to have lost a lot of it's explicit racist / separatist vibe over the last 20 years or so, with Arizona picking up a lot of the slack in terms of being the scary western cowboy state. Though there is an actual KKK guy running for county sheriff in one of the counties near the Canadian border right now.

One of my dad's brothers retired to Idaho (Riggins), opened a little gas station there to keep busy, and lives right on the Salmon River. Most idyllic place I've ever been. It would be easy to spend entire decades just sitting in a lawn chair out back, sipping a cold drink, reading a book and waving at the rafters and innertubers floating past.

Then diving in at that little bend in the river where they always tip over and scoring mad coin, watches, and jewelry.

I guess I have been to Idaho before and it is pretty in an oh my god I'm going to fall into a ravine sort of way. though I do remember stopping at some backwoods diner that did have a backroom emblazoned wIth confederate flags. Figured it was a klan klubhouse, tbh.

ct has the best pizza
this is true

Seeing the thread title made me wonder what was the most innocuous U.S. state. Probably Delaware.

It does seem to have lost a lot of it's explicit racist / separatist vibe over the last 20 years or so, with Arizona picking up a lot of the slack in terms of being the scary western cowboy state. Though there is an actual KKK guy running for county sheriff in one of the counties near the Canadian border right now.

I spent ages 7-22 in Idaho, Ruby Ridge, neonazis, all that. Moved to NM and had to work really hard to convince non-white friends that being from Idaho didn't mean I was going to be a violent racist (tho I don't really blame them for thinking that, I mean my fucking aunt just bought an "anti-Obama gun" *96 tears*). I got accepted into University of Arizona two months before SB1070 and now I'm living here. I feel like I have this weird curse of living in the wild west hot spots of odious racist news.

that's it icey, next time i reprogram dick's pacemaker i'm setting him to "kill"

...kill YOU

Seeing the thread title made me wonder what was the most innocuous U.S. state. Probably Delaware.

hahahahaha ... no.

Probably Vermont, but I wanna say that Maryland is somewhere in the running.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

i'd probably say Maine in a pinch if i had to name a "most innocuous US state."

i look at Miami as a sort of West Berlin, surrounded by the East Germany that is the rest of Florida. that's how i see Atlanta, too, come to think of it.

Lol yeah i can see that. Tho I think you can miss out on some real treats with that attitude. Athens, Savannah, all the cool waterfalls and caves in the mountains of North GA. And Macon, which I've only been to once, but any town where you can see the Allman bros. graves in beautiful Rose Hill Cemetery, shop at the official Otis Redding store, and visit Indian Mounds is pretty damn cool.

Carrollton's nice too.

i'd probably say Maine in a pinch if i had to name a "most innocuous US state."

Maine's where that killer demon clown killed all those kids. Also where the four kids found that dead body in the woods.

i personally look to the midwest for my innocuousness

i might've said a Midwest state as an example of innocuousness too ... until the denizens of several such states went & elected evil asshats like Scott Walker, Michelle Bachmann and Steve King.

Probably Vermont, but I wanna say that Maryland is somewhere in the running.

Ha, yes, I'll consider this next time I'm hanging out in Fredneck.

Hawaii seems pretty innocuous

Queen Liliʻuokalani would like to have a word with you.

Idaho has three essential things, at least:
- The caldera entrance to Twin Falls
- SR 95 from Boise to Coeur D'Alene. It takes forever and it's so pretty.
- Priest Lake

On a cultural level, eh. Built To Spill play Seattle more often than most Seattle bands. And Boise is a loooong drive, if that gives perspective.
That KKK sheriff candidate is probably running in the same county as Priest Lake, to be fair.

I crossed SR 95 a couple of times today actually as I do most weekends. And as for your guess regarding the KKK sheriff candidate you would be absolutely correct.

I've lived here for almost six years now and I've been to Seattle and Portland dozens of times but have yet to go to Boise.

being from Idaho didn't mean I was going to be a violent racist

I love talking to people in my hometown, in rural-ass upper michigan, about Idaho and having them all freak out about how crazy and backwoods and racist it obviously must be while not realizing that they live in a far more crazy and occasionally racist backwoods place.

Ha, yes, I'll consider this next time I'm hanging out in Fredneck.

― pplains, Saturday, April 28, 2012 11:03 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Have you seriously had to hang out in Frederick for some reason?

the caldera entrance to twin falls is something to behold, it's true

twin falls, in general, is a very, deeply, strange place

Never hung out in Frederick though I have hung out a little in the panhandle and "innocuous" wouldn't be the word I'd use to describe it.

(but isn't all of Maryland a panhandle, ami rite.)

there is a lot of panhandling going on, yes

Maryland really got screwed when they were handing out boundaries.

If this poll was strictly about boundaries, it'd get my vote.

Alabama

truth is there are about 20 states that all fucking terrible

yeah but the answer is Alabama

i can't say i'm an AL expert but i'll cop to never finding much redeemable there in the way i could w/ GA, LA, TN and even godforsaken MS.

every state that isn't obscenely wealthy is str8 trash

TN should just annex the north part that has muscle shoals and huntsville in it, which would basically resolve the question completely

well that's true everywhere, but at least as far as presidential elections go, which is usually what 'go blue' refers to, texas is def a swing state by 2020

― iatee, Friday, April 27, 2012 9:31 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Only way this happens, btw, is if Hillary runs as a Republican next time.

Alabama has some amazing thrift stores and Hank William's gravesite is a must see. from my experience Birmingham is a cool city. everywhere else is college football land).

imo it's not as picturesque as the surrounding states that get more into the lower Appalachians, just kind of flat country dotted with Flying Js and the fireworks superstores with the tall facades.

Florida as a collective whole is crap (though I will admit I've only lived in a very small radius of it) but there are really dope areas of FL.

so a belated "eff these poll options".

• Alabama has more freshwater biodiversity than any other state.

• Bear Bryant was born in Arkansas.

About as good as I'm going to get this morning complementing Alabama.

I have a shitload of nice stuff to say about very specific aspects of small parts of Alabama - I was born and raised there, duh - but I mean, no, Alabama is bad. It's the worst. It's a tight race with Mississippi sometimes but really, Alabama.

I wouldn't call it the worst state. It definitely has fewer cowbells than Mississippi, for example.

Pointing out that Tennessee should annex North Alabama made me think of this turn-of-the-century arena football team, based in Huntsville.

https://image.ibb.co/hpdXok/Tennessee_Valley_Vipers.png