THE VAULT OF ILX Top 100 HORROR Movies Poll Voting Thread (voting closes May 9 *~*~*~*2012*~*~*~*)

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed

Nominations are in and there are 734 movies that someone deemed worth of note. Only about 100 shy of the 835 or so movies nominated for the comedy poll. Good job, fellow genre geeks! Your years subscribing to Gore Zone were not for naught.

Feel free to big-up your last minute write-ins itt, but know that it's probably a lost cause. Lucky for you I went ahead and nominated The Cabin in the Woods a couple weeks ago because I knew you'd have wanted it that way.

After much soul-searching, I decided I couldn't go through with the ascending point value thingy, which would've given you only as many points for your top choice as you had films on your ballot (i.e. if you list 20 movies, your top-ranking movie gets 20 points; if you list 35, your top-ranking one gets 35). Mostly because it would've been a headache to tally.

That said, I am going to require a minimum of 20 movies on your ballot. Any ballot with less will be staked through the heart. SO ... submit your ballots to me in the same format as top comedies:

The Death of Nubile Emily – 50
Dave Gruebeck Takes Five (Lives) – 49
Hobo Boxcar Massacre – 48
etc.

I suppose if you are submitting a ballot of 20 where you don't actually feel all that enthusiastic about the bottom 10, you can feel free to give them less points than they would otherwise be given for placing in slots 11-20. Your call.

Polls are open for the next three weeks. Ballots should be sent to ephender AT gmail daht cahm

NOTE: As with the top 100 comedies and top 100 action movies polls, it's totally cool to campaign for your favorites here, but please do not reveal your own ballots.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 16 April 2012 16:46 (five years ago) Permalink

Full nomination list:

1408
13 Ghosts (1960)
13 Tzameti
13: Game of Death
2,000 Maniacs
28 Days Later
28 Weeks Later
3 Women
30 Days of Night
Abandoned, The
Abby
Abominable Dr. Phibes, The (1971)
Absentia
Acacia
Addiction, The (1995)
Alice, Sweet Alice
Alien
Alien 3 (1992)
Aliens (1986)
All The Colours Of The Dark
Alligator (1980)
Altered States (1980)
Alucarda
Amer (2009)
American Psycho
American Werewolf in London, An
Amityville Horror, The (1979)
Anaconda (1997)
And Soon the Darkness (1970)
Angel Heart (1987)
Angry Red Planet
Anguish [Angustia] (1987)
Antibodies
Antichrist (2009)
Antichrist [L'Anticristo] (1974)
Apaches
April Fool's Day
Arachnophobia (1990)
Army of Darkness (1993)
Asylum (1972)
At Midnight I'll Take Your Soul (1964)
Atrocious
Attack the Block
Audition (1999)
Autopsy [Sunspots] (1975)
Awful Dr. Orloff, The
Baby, The
Bad Ronald (1974)
Bad Seed, The (1956)
Basket Case (1982)
Basket Case 2 (1990)
Basket Case 3: The Progeny (1991)
Beast with Five Fingers, The
Beast Within, The (1982)
Beast, The [La Bete]
Bedlam (1946)
Begotten (1990)
Behind the Mask: The Rise of Leslie Vernon
Bell from Hell, A
Beloved
Below
Beyond, The
Bird with the Crystal Plumage, The (1970)
Birds, The (1963)
Black Belly of the Tarantula, The
Black Cat, The (1934)
Black Christmas (1974)
Black Sabbath
Black Sunday
Black Swan
Blacula (1972)
Blade (1998)
Blair Witch Project, The (1999)
Blind Beast [Moju]
Blob, The (1958)
Blob, The (1988)
Blood and Black Lace
Blood Beach (1980)
Blood Feast
Blood for Dracula
Blood on Satan's Claw [Satan's Skin] (1971)
Bloodsucking Freaks
Blue Sunshine
Blue Velvet
Body Melt
Body Snatcher, The
Boy Meets Girl (1994)
Brain Damage (1988)
Brain Dead (1990)
Braindead [Dead Alive]
Bram Stoker's Dracula (1992)
Bride of Chucky (1998)
Bride of Frankenstein, The
Bride of Re-Animator
Brood, The (1979)
Bucket of Blood, A
Bug
Burn, Witch, Burn
Burrowers, The
Butcher, The
C.H.U.D. (1984)
Cabin Fever
Cabin in the Woods, The (2012)
Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, The
Call of Cthulhu, The (2005)
Calvaire
Candyman (1992)
Cannibal Holocaust
Captain Kronos: Vampire Hunter (1974)
Carnival Of Souls (1962)
Carrie (1976)
Carry On Screaming
Castle Freak (1995)
Cat and the Canary, The
Cat People (1942)
Cat People (1982)
Cathy's Curse
Cat's Eye
Cemetery Man [Dellamorte Dellamore] (1994)
Changeling, The
Chaser, The
Children of the Corn
Children, The (2008)
Child's Play
Christine
Church, The [La Chiesa] (1989)
City of the Living Dead [The Gates of Hell]
Class of 1984 (1982)
Clean, Shaven
Cloverfield
Cold Night's Death, A (1973)
Company of Wolves, The (1984)
Craft, The (1996)
Crazies, The (1973)
Crazies, The (2010)
Creature from the Black Lagoon
Creepshow (1982)
Creepshow 2 (1987)
Cremaster 3
Cremator, The
Crimes of Passion (1984)
Criminally Insane (1975)
Cronos (1993)
Crowhaven Farm (1970)
Cube (1997)
Cujo
Cure [Kyua] (1997)
Curse of Frankenstein, The
Curse of the Cat People (1944)
Curse of the Demon [Night of the Demon] (1957)
Dagon
Dahmer
Dark Half, The
Dark Night of the Scarecrow (1981)
Dark Secret of Harvest Home, The (1978)
Dark Water
Daughters of Darkness
Dawn of the Dead (1978)
Day of the Beast, The [Dia de la Bestia] (1995)
Day of the Dead (1985)
Day of the Triffids, The (1962)
Dead and Buried (1981)
Dead Calm
Dead End (2003)
Dead Kids [Strange Behavior] (1981)
Dead of Night (1945)
Dead of Night (1977)
Dead Ringers (1988)
Dead Zone, The (1983)
Deadgirl (2008)
Death Bed: The Bed That Eats (1977)
Death Line [Raw Meat]
Deathdream [Dead of Night] (1972)
Deep Red [Profondo Rosso] (1975)
Dementia (1955)
Demon Seed (1977)
Demons
Descent, The
Devil Dog: The Hound of Hell (1978)
Devil Inside Her, The (1977)
Devil Rides Out, The (1968)
Devil's Backbone, The
Devil's Rejects, The
Devils, The
Diabolique [Les Diaboliques]
Disappearance of Alice Creed, The
Dog Soldiers
Donkey Punch
Don't Be Afraid of the Dark (1973)
Don't Deliver Us from Evil
Don't Look Now (1973)
Dorian Gray (1970)
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1920)
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1931)
Dr. Phibes Rises Again (1972)
Dracula (1931)
Dracula: Prince of Darkness (1966)
Drag Me To Hell
Dreamcatcher
Dreamscape (1984)
Dressed To Kill (1980)
Driller Killer, The (1979)
Duel (1971)
DUMPLINGS!
Dunwich Horror, The
Dust Devil (1992)
Eaten Alive (1977)
Eden Lake
Embodiment of Evil
Entrails of a Virgin (1986)
Equus (1977)
Eraserhead (1977)
Event Horizon (1997)
Evil Dead 2: Dead By Dawn
Evil Dead Trap
Evil Dead, The
Evil, The
Evilspeak (1981)
Exorcist 3, The
Exorcist II: The Heretic, The
Exorcist, The
Exte
Eye, The
Eyes Of Laura Mars
Eyes Without A Face [Les yeux sans visage]
Faces of Death
Faculty, The
Family Portraits: A Trilogy of America (2003)
Faust (1926)
Faust (1994)
Fearless Vampire Killers, or Pardon Me Your Teeth Are In My Neck, The (1966)
Feast
Feed
Fido
Final Destination (2000)
Final Destination 2
Finishing Line, The
Fire Walk With Me [Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me]
Firestarter
Five Dolls For An August Moon
Five Million Years to Earth [Quatermass and the Pit]
Flesh for Frankenstein
Fly, The (1958)
Fly, The (1986)
Fog, The (1980)
Forbidden World [Mutant]
Four Flies on Grey Velvet
Fourth Man, The [The 4th Man] (1983)
Frailty
Frankenhooker (1990)
Frankenstein (1931)
Freaks
Friday the 13th (1980)
Friday The 13th Part II
Fright Night (1985)
Frighteners, The (1996)
Frogs (1972)
From Beyond
From Beyond the Grave
From Dusk Til Dawn (1996)
From Hell
Frontiere(s)
Funhouse, The (1981)
Funny Games (1997)
Funny Games (2007)
Fury, The (1978)
Galaxy of Terror (1981)
Ganja and Hess (1973)
Gargoyles (1972)
Gate, The (1987)
Geek Maggot Bingo (1983)
Gemini
Genesis
Ghostwatch (1992)
Ginger Snaps (2000)
God Told Me To [Demon] (1976)
Godzilla vs. the Smog Monster (1971)
Golem, The (1920)
Gothic
Gozu (2003)
Grandmother, The
Grave Encounters
Graveyard Shift
Gremlins (1984)
Gremlins 2: The New Batch (1990)
Grizzly Park
Grudge, The (2004)
Habit (1995)
Halloween (1978)
Halloween II (2009)
Halloween III: Season of the Witch (1982)
Hampshire
Hands of Orlac, The
Hannibal
Happiness of the Katakuris, The
Happy Birthday to Me (1981)
Hard Candy
Hardware (1990)
Hatchet
Haunted Castle, The [Le Manoir du Diable]
Haunting in Connecticut, The
Haunting, The (1963)
Haute Tension
Haxan (1922)
Hell Night
Hellbound: Hellraiser II (1988)
Hellraiser (1987)
Hellstrom Chronicle
Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer
Hidden, The (1987)
Hills Have Eyes, The (1977)
Hills Have Eyes, The (2006)
Hiruko the Goblin
Hitcher, The (1986)
Home Movie (2008)
Homebodies (1974)
Homicidal
Horde, The
Horror Express (1972)
Horrors of Malformed Men
Horseman, The
Hospital Brut
Host, The
Hostel
Hostel Part II
Hour of the Wolf [Vargtimmen] (1968)
House (1986)
House [Hausu] (1977)
House by the Cemetery (1981)
House of 1000 Corpses
House of the Devil, The
House of Wax (2005)
House Of Whipcord (1974)
House on Cuckoo Lane, The
House on Haunted Hill (1959)
House That Dripped Blood, The
House With Laughing Windows, The
Howling, The (1971)
Human Centipede 2: The Full Sequence, The
Human Centipede: First Sequence, The
Hunger, The (1983)
Hush... Hush, Sweet Charlotte
I Drink Your Blood (1970)
I Saw the Devil
I Spit on Your Grave [Day of the Woman] (1978)
I Walked with a Zombie (1943)
Ichi the Killer
Idle Hands (1999)
Images
Impulse (1984)
In My Skin
In The Mouth of Madness (1994)
Incubus
Inferno (Argento)
Initiation of Sarah, The (1978)
Inland Empire
Innocents, The
Inside [Ë l'intŽrieur]
Interview With The Vampire
Invasion Of The Body Snatchers (1956)
Invasion Of The Body Snatchers (1978)
Invisible Man, The (1933)
Irreversible
Island of Dr. Moreau (1977)
Island of Dr. Moreau, The (1996)
Island of Lost Souls, The
Isle, The [Seom] (2000)
Isolation (2005)
It
It! The Terror from Beyond Space
It's Alive
It's Alive 3: Island of the Alive
Jack Frost (1996)
Jacob's Ladder
Jaws (1975)
Jennifer (1978)
Jigoku
Ju-on: The Curse (2000)
Ju-on: The Curse 2 (2000)
Ju-on: The Grudge (2003)
Ju-on: The Grudge 2 (2003)
Keep, The
Kill List
Kill, Baby, Kill! (1966)
Killer Klowns from Outer Space (1988)
Killers (1996)
Kingdom of the Spiders (1977)
Kissed
Kwaidan (1964)
Lair of the White Worm, The (1988)
Last House on Dead End Street
Last House on the Left, The (1972)
Last House on the Left, The (2009)
Last Wave, The (1977)
Lawnmower Man, The (1992)
Legend Of Hell House, The
Legend of the 7 Golden Vampires (1974)
Lemora: A Child's Tale of the Supernatural
Leprechaun 2
Let Me In (2010)
Let Sleeping Corpses Lie
Let the Right One In (2008)
Let's Scare Jessica to Death
Lifeforce (1985)
Lisa And The Devil
Little Girl Who Lives Down The Lane, The (1976)
Living Dead Girl
Lizard in a Woman's Skin (1971)
Lost Boys, The (1987)
Lost Highway
Lost, The [Jack Ketchum's The Lost]
Love - Zero = Infinity [Iyarashii hitozuma: ureru] (1994)
Love Letters to a Portuguese Nun (1977)
M
Macbeth (1971)
Machine Girl, The
Mad Love
Man Who Laughs, The
Mangler, The
Maniac (1980)
Maniac Cop
Manos: The Hands of Fate (1966)
Man's Best Friend (1993)
Marebito
Martin (1977)
Martyrs
Masque of the Red Death, The (1964)
Massacre at Central High (1976)
Matango: Attack of the Mushroom People
Maximum Overdrive
May
Meet The Applegates
Memento Mori
Memories of Murder
Messiah of Evil (1973)
Midnight Meat Train
Mimic (1997)
Mist, The
Motel Hell (1980)
Mother Joan of the Angels [Matka Joanna od Anio?—w] (1961)
Mother's Day (1980)
Mulholland Dr.
Mum & Dad
Mumsy, Nanny, Sonny & Girly [Girly] (1970)
Murder Loves Killers Too
Murder Party
My Bloody Valentine (1981)
My Little Eye
Mystery of the Wax Museum, The
Nadja (1994)
Naked Blood [Splatter: Naked Blood] (1996)
Naked Lunch
Near Dark (1987)
Needful Things
Nekromantik (1987)
Nekromantik 2 (1991)
Night of Fear
Night of the Bloody Apes
Night of the Creeps
Night of the Hunted [La nuit des tranquees]
Night of the Hunter, The
Night of the Lepus (1972)
Night of the Living Dead (1968)
Nightbreed
Nightmare on Elm Street 2: Freddy's Revenge, A
Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors, A
Nightmare on Elm Street 4: The Dream Master, A
Nightmare On Elm Street, A
Nightmares (1983)
Noriko's Dinner Table (2005)
Noroi [Noroi: The Curse] (2005)
Nosferatu (1922)
Nosferatu: Phantom der Nacht (1979)
Old Dark House, The
Omega Man, The (1971)
Omen, The (1976)
One Missed Call
Onibaba
Opera [Terror At The Opera] (1987)
Orphanage, The
Other, The (1972)
Others, The (2001)
Outer Space
Pan's Labyrinth
Paperhouse
Paranormal Activity
Parents
Peeping Tom (1960)
People Under the Stairs, The (1991)
Perfect Blue
Pet Sematary (1989)
Phantasm (1979)
Phantasm II (1988)
Phantom of the Opera, The (1925)
Phase IV (1974)
Phenomena (1985)
Picnic at Hanging Rock
Picture of Dorian Grey, The
Pieces
Pin (1988)
Piranha (1978)
Pit and the Pendulum, The
Pit, The (1981)
Planet of the Vampires
Planet Terror
Poltergeist (1982)
Pontypool
Possessed, The (1977)
Possession (1981)
Prince of Darkness
Prom Night (1980)
Prophecy, The (1995)
Psycho (1960)
Psycho 2
Psychomania
Pulse [Kairo]
Pumpkinhead (1988)
Puppet Master (1989)
Q: The Winged Serpent (1982)
Quiet Family, The
Quiet Place in the Country, A (1969)
Rabid
Race with the Devil (1975)
Raising Cain
Rare Exports: A Christmas Tale
Ravenous (1999)
Razorback (1984)
Re-Animator (1985)
Rebecca
Rec [rec]
Rec 2
Re-Cycle
RED (2008)
Reflecting Skin, The (1990)
Repulsion (1965)
Requium for a Vampire
Return of the Living Dead III (1993)
Return of the Living Dead, The (1985)
Riding The Bullet
Ring, The (2001)
Ringu (1998)
Rituals (1977)
Rocky Horror Picture Show, The
Rogue
Rosemary's Baby (1968)
R-Point
Rubber
Ruins, The
Salem's Lot (1979)
Salo, or the 120 Days of Sodom
Santa's Slay
Satan's School for Girls (1973)
Sauna (2008)
Save the Green Planet!
Saw
Scanners (1981)
Schramm: Into the Mind of a Serial Killer (1994)
Scream
Scream, Blackula, Scream (1973)
Season of the Witch [Jack's Wife]
Seconds (1966)
Secret Window
See No Evil [Blind Terror] (1971)
Sender, The (1982)
Sentinal, The
Serbian Film, A
Serpent and the Rainbow, The (1988)
Session 9
Seven
Seventh Victim, The (1943)
Severance
Sexykiller (2008)
Shadow
Shadow of the Vampire (2000)
Shallow Grave
Shallow Ground
Shatter Dead (1994)
Shaun of the Dead
She Killed In Ecstasy
Sheitan
Shining, The
Shiver
Shiver of the Vampire
Shivers [They Came From Within] (1975)
Shock Waves
Short Night Of Glass Dolls, The
Shout, The (1978)
Shrooms
Shutter (2004)
Shuttle
Signal, The
Signalman, The (1976)
Silence of the Lambs, The
Silent Night, Deadly Night (1984)
Silver Bullet
Singapore Sling
Sisters (1973)
Slaughter High
Sleepaway Camp (1983)
Sleepwalkers
Sleepy Hollow
Slither
Snuff
Society (1989)
Something Wicked This Way Comes (1983)
Son of Dracula
Species (1995)
Spider Baby
Spiral (2000)
Splice (2009)
Splinter
Squirm (1976)
Stacy [Attack of the Schoolgirl Zombies] (2001)
Stalker (1979)
Stendhal Syndrome, The (1996)
Stepfather, The (1987)
Stir of Echoes
Stone Tape, The
Straight-Jacket
Strange Circus (2005)
Strange Vice Of Mrs. Wardh, The
Strangers, The
Straw Dogs (1971)
Street Trash (1987)
Stuck
Student of Prague (1926)
Stuff, The (1985)
Suicide Club
Super 8
Suspiria
Tale of Two Sisters, A
Tales from the Crypt (1972)
Tales from the Crypt: Demon Knight (1995)
Tales from the Hood (1995)
Teeth
Tell Me Something
Tenant, The
Tenebrae
Terror Train (1980)
Tesis (1996)
Testament
Tetsuo: The Iron Man
Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2, The
Texas Chainsaw Massacre, The (1974)
Thankskilling
Theatre of Blood
Them [Ils] (2006)
Them! (1954)
They Came Back [Les Revenants]
They Don't Cut the Grass Anymore (1985)
They Live (1988)
Thing, The (1982)
Thinner
Thirst (2009)
Threads
Three
Three... Extremes
Throne of Blood
Through the Looking Glass
Tingler, The
To The Devil... A Daughter (1976)
Tokyo Gore Police (2008)
Tomb of Ligeia, The
Tombs Of The Blind Dead
Torture Garden
Tourist Trap
Toxic Avenger, The (1984)
Tremors (1990)
Trial, The (1962)
Triangle (2009)
Trick r' Treat
Trilogy of Terror (1975)
Trouble Every Day
Twillight Zone: The Movie (1983)
Twisted Nerve
Twitch Of The Death Nerve
Two Thousand Maniacs!
Ugly, The (1997)
Uncle Sam
Underworld
Ungodly, The [The Perfect Witness]
Uninvited, The (1944)
Unknown, The (1927)
Untold Story, The
Uzumaki [Spiral]
Valerie and Her Week of Wonders (1970)
Vampire Circus (1972)
Vampyr (1932)
Vampyros Lesbos
Vanishing, The [Spoorloos] (1988)
Vault of Horror, The
Versus
Videodrome
Village of the Damned (1960)
Village of the Damned (1995)
Violent Kind, The
Virgin Spring, The [JungfrukŠllan] (1960)
Visitor Q
Viy
Wages of Fear, The
Wait Until Dark
Wake in Fright
Warlock (1989)
Warlock: The Armageddon (1993)
Watcher In the Woods (1980)
Waxworks (1924)
Wayward Cloud, The [Tian bian yi duo yun] (2005)
Wes Craven's New Nightmare (1994)
What Are These Strange Drops Of Blood Doing On Jennifer's Body?
Whatever Happened To Baby Jane?
When a Stranger Calls
Whispering Corridors
Whistle and I'll Come to You (1968)
White Zombie
Who Saw Her Die?
Wicker Man, The
Wild Zero (2000)
Wishmaster (1997)
Wishmaster 2 (1999)
Witch Who Came From the Sea, The (1976)
Witchfinder General [The Conqueror Worm]
Wizard of Gore, The (1970)
Wolf (1994)
Wolf Creek
Wolf Man, The (1941)
Wolfen (1981)
Woman in Black, The (2012)
Woman in the Dunes
Woman, The (2011)
Woods, The (2006)
X: The Man with the X-Ray Eyes (1963)
Xtro (1983)
Your Vice Is A Locked Door And Only I Have The Key
Zombie [Zombi 2] (1979)

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 16 April 2012 16:46 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm doing this only because jj asked me to. So we're voting for a maximum of 50, right?

Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 16 April 2012 16:51 (five years ago) Permalink

this is gonna be tough. watched Fulci's "The Beyond" as, uh, "research" for this thread last night. pretty silly. plotless gore! loads of great setpieces tho. and the painting motif was a good touch.

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 April 2012 16:51 (five years ago) Permalink

Oops, yeah. Maximum ballot of 50. Minimum of 20.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 16 April 2012 16:52 (five years ago) Permalink

hey where's Taxi Driver?

picture jean rollin (Pillbox), Monday, 16 April 2012 16:53 (five years ago) Permalink

totally psyched to spend these intervening weeks catching up on old favorites & binging on ILX recommendations btw

picture jean rollin (Pillbox), Monday, 16 April 2012 16:54 (five years ago) Permalink

Let the horror commence *cackles evilly*

emil.y, Monday, 16 April 2012 17:05 (five years ago) Permalink

I love The Isle by Kim Ki-Duk, but who the hell thinks it's a horror movie?

Tuomas, Monday, 16 April 2012 17:09 (five years ago) Permalink

really no need to ask about that one w/ The Virgin Spring on there

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:16 (five years ago) Permalink

Done. That was easy. Freakishly, I wound up with exactly 50 titles after breezing through the list once.

Soooo not a horror film: Wages of Fear, The

Really, this is a horror film?: 3 Women

Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 16 April 2012 17:19 (five years ago) Permalink

well it's pretty creepy

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:20 (five years ago) Permalink

So is Patch Addams.

Tuomas, Monday, 16 April 2012 17:22 (five years ago) Permalink

Don't think anyone actually explicitly nominated Taxi Driver, ftr. But I'm sure it'll be on everyone's minds as they do their ballots now.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:25 (five years ago) Permalink

interesting that The Sixth Sense wasn't nominated. I guess it it technically more of a thriller or whatev, though there is enough spooky haunted house stuff, zombie-ghosts and what not, to qualify it imo. Personally, I do like it, but I prob wouldn't have voted for it in this. That's valuable real estate!

an accidental oversight, or perhaps simply indicative of how badly MNS's subsequent cavalcade of banalities has tarnished the esteem held for his one actually pretty good film (tbh tho I'd prob stan for Unbreakable over TSS, tho it's been a steep and steady decline from there..)

picture jean rollin (Pillbox), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:31 (five years ago) Permalink

This is the first ilx ballot poll I've participated in w/o ghostbusters on the nom list.

HE HATES THESE CANS (Austerity Ponies), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:32 (five years ago) Permalink

Sixth Sense felt more supernatural drama than horror to me, the few shock scenes it had were tacked-on, as it clearly wasn't a scary movie at heart.

Tuomas, Monday, 16 April 2012 17:34 (five years ago) Permalink

was decided early in the nom process that horror film does not necessarily equal scary film

the lack of something like the sixth sense is not because it's not a horror a film, but prolly because nobody was willing to rep for it on the nom thread

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:37 (five years ago) Permalink

it was a shitty movie at heart

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:38 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah, there are a bunch of these that i don't think of as horror films and i'm not a genre-pedant at all. 3 women is one of them -- wages of fear might cut it as a "suspense" film (as would, for another example, blue velvet), and truthfully i have difficulty of diabolique as a horror film (consequently, if wages of fear and diabolique are "horror" films, then why should le corbeau be excluded? if anything, le corbeau has more horror film elements than the foregoing clouzot films!)

but hey, easy enough to settle i won't include those on my ballots and everyone else can vote for whatever they want so ignore me lalalala.

onibaba o'reilly (Eisbaer), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:38 (five years ago) Permalink

http://www.gbfans.com/images/store/m/1554_2096451093.jpg

xp - surely GB is not enough of a horror flick to warrant inclusion here, tho I will say that this ^ scene scared the bejeezus out of me when I saw it for the first time in the theatre as a kid.

picture jean rollin (Pillbox), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:40 (five years ago) Permalink

was decided early in the nom process that horror film does not necessarily equal scary film

What does "horror film" mean, then? Any movie with a supernatural element? Is that why movies likes like The Isle or Stalker, which have absolutely no scary scenes at all, are on the list?

Tuomas, Monday, 16 April 2012 17:40 (five years ago) Permalink

...except that The Isle doesn't have supernatural elements either.

Tuomas, Monday, 16 April 2012 17:41 (five years ago) Permalink

it's a movie where the primary conflict is resolved through gory setpieces

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:42 (five years ago) Permalink

or devil babies

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:42 (five years ago) Permalink

also creepy music

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:42 (five years ago) Permalink

Glad Paperhouse is on the list. Another sort of unconventional horror movie, but really unnerving. I first saw it with about a dozen friends in college at my girlfriend's apartment, and I remember a few scenes where everybody in the room jumped at once.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:43 (five years ago) Permalink

also, is testament the 1983 film about nuclear war?!? i guess that it must be, since threads is also on the list.

onibaba o'reilly (Eisbaer), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:45 (five years ago) Permalink

Testament is possibly the scariest movie I've ever seen

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:46 (five years ago) Permalink

I have no idea why Stalker was nominated either, unless it was a different one than the Tarkovsky movie. Or maybe the final shot (SPOILER ALERT?) tipped someone off into Carrie territory?

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:46 (five years ago) Permalink

this is gonna be tough. watched Fulci's "The Beyond" as, uh, "research" for this thread last night. pretty silly. plotless gore! loads of great setpieces tho. and the painting motif was a good touch.

― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, April 16, 2012 12:51 PM (46 minutes ago)

the beyond is kind of like suspiria's slow brother, it tries to leap over yr aesthetic concerns by going for a similar pervasive atmosphere of terror, which translates to an almost poetic surrealism in some scenes, and a final sequence that is truly haunting. but it is a deeply stupid movie.

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:47 (five years ago) Permalink

I love The Isle by Kim Ki-Duk, but who the hell thinks it's a horror movie?

i nominated the isle because it's suspenseful, grisly, disturbing and it maintains an atmosphere of dread. a lot of contemporary "horror" focuses more on ordeal than scariness. nominated ming-liang tsai's the wayward cloud at the same time for similar reasons, though that one's got more genuinely unnerving scenes (e.g., the porn basement). mostly just wanted to throw in some outliers.

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:48 (five years ago) Permalink

it's a movie where the primary conflict is resolved through gory setpieces

If that's enough to make a horror movie, then why didn't anyone nominate Monty Python and the Holy Grail?

Tuomas, Monday, 16 April 2012 17:48 (five years ago) Permalink

xp Its going to place for me on the final scene alone. Also my inherent weakness for foamy, pink blood.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:49 (five years ago) Permalink

re: The Beyond - it's funny how the plot is so non-existent, characters are established but then they do things and go places for no apparent reason, there's no discernible logic to the sequence of events etc

xp

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:50 (five years ago) Permalink

edward III otm re: the beyond. i nominated it for its reputation, gore and atmosphere, and for its terrific conclusion, not cuz it's a conventionally good movie.

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:50 (five years ago) Permalink

that was a joke Tuomas

xp

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:50 (five years ago) Permalink

it's funny how the plot is so non-existent, characters are established but then they do things and go places for no apparent reason, there's no discernible logic to the sequence of events etc

this is actually a good description of a lot of horror movies from the 1980s onwards ...

onibaba o'reilly (Eisbaer), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:51 (five years ago) Permalink

The Beyond might be the only Fulci film from that era I love, much less like.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:51 (five years ago) Permalink

(xx-post)

To me the Isle just felt melancholy and beautiful, I can't remember any suspense in it. Sure, there's that one icky scene, but if something is horror because of an icky scene, regardless of the context, that sounds like a way too technical definition to me.

Tuomas, Monday, 16 April 2012 17:51 (five years ago) Permalink

interesting that The Sixth Sense wasn't nominated. I guess it it technically more of a thriller or whatev, though there is enough spooky haunted house stuff, zombie-ghosts and what not, to qualify it imo. Personally, I do like it, but I prob wouldn't have voted for it in this. That's valuable real estate!

yeah, that does seem like a pretty surprising oversight. i'd meant to nominate it, but forgot. it's certainly not that i wouldn't be willing to rep for it. i love that movie.

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:52 (five years ago) Permalink

The Beyond might be the only Fulci film from that era I love, much less like.

yeah, that was the other reason i nominated. i felt that fulci deserved representation on this list, and the beyond is the only film of his that i've ever really enjoyed.

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:53 (five years ago) Permalink

The City of the Living Dead is awkward. Zombie is lugubriously paced and then there's a shark vs. zombie battle that's awesome in concept but *yawn* in execution. New York Ripper is grimy without being truly disturbing like Maniac.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:53 (five years ago) Permalink

oh come on contenderizer, Zombie is plenty entertaining. a zombie punches a shark! underwater!

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:54 (five years ago) Permalink

lol xp to Eric

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:54 (five years ago) Permalink

only saw the sixth sense once in the theaters and I have to give it props as a well-done horror film, I think most of the resistance to it is actually horror at what shamalama did afterwards

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:54 (five years ago) Permalink

There's a few grindhouse nasties I forgot to nominate but probably that's for the best. Goodbye Uncle Tom is definitely some *kind* of horror movie, but maybe not this kind.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:55 (five years ago) Permalink

it's funny how the plot is so non-existent, characters are established but then they do things and go places for no apparent reason, there's no discernible logic to the sequence of events etc

every italian horror film

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:55 (five years ago) Permalink

The Grim Reaper with Tisa Farrow probably should've been at least given a mention tho.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:55 (five years ago) Permalink

I am simultaneously cursing and thanking you for cutting off the nom process eric

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:56 (five years ago) Permalink

Paperhouse! I totally need to rewatch that. I remember renting it from my local video shop as a kid and thinking I was all smart and fancy b/c a blurb on the box advertised it as 'the thinking person's Nightmare on Elm Street.' I don't remember much about it at all, save for that it creeped me out sufficiently, despite there not actually being some intellectually sophisticated version of Freddy (lol which I guess is what said blurb made me envision back then).

picture jean rollin (Pillbox), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:56 (five years ago) Permalink

I consider something horror if some supernatural element or unexplained phenomenon is intrinsic to the plot, or the movie was designed to invoke a sense of horror (even if it doesn't). The only controversial nomination I made was Fire Walk With Me, but I stan for that as a horror movie because it is full of supernatural/unexplained things, it succeeds in evoking horror, and also it scares the bejeepers out of me.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:57 (five years ago) Permalink

it's funny how the plot is so non-existent, characters are established but then they do things and go places for no apparent reason, there's no discernible logic to the sequence of events etc

every italian horror film

― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, April 16, 2012 5:55 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes! I kept trying to reply with "That's so Fulci!" but I was getting xposted into oblivion.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:58 (five years ago) Permalink

I know I know, it just seemed especially pronounced in this case. I kept laughing every time someone went down under the house by themselves just to, y'know, wander around.

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:59 (five years ago) Permalink

I have no idea why Stalker was nominated either, unless it was a different one than the Tarkovsky movie. Or maybe the final shot (SPOILER ALERT?) tipped someone off into Carrie territory?

― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, April 16, 2012 1:46 PM (9 minutes ago)

this was a carry over from darin's yearly horror polls, which were awesome and comprehensive but sometimes too broad in their inclusions. pretty sure I bitched about the stalker nom at the time.

see also: equus. one of my fave films but in no way a horror movie. unless you're a horse.

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:59 (five years ago) Permalink

also, is testament the 1983 film about nuclear war?!?

Yup.

Testament is possibly the scariest movie I've ever seen

And yup. It's going to be very high on my ballot. I'm gonna limit my hardcore nominee stumping to Testament and Possession. If at least some of y'all made a point of seeing those two before voting, I'd be over the moon.

Harried Ice Craw (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:00 (five years ago) Permalink

I can't decide if the fact that I can't bring myself to watch it as an adult means I should include it or not.

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:01 (five years ago) Permalink

I meant to make this point on the horror thread, but I think if a future sci-fi poll is a "sci-fi and fantasy" poll, that will allow for some glaring misses to be rectified (e.g. king kong, godzilla).

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:03 (five years ago) Permalink

*horror nom thread*

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:03 (five years ago) Permalink

I mean, as weird as The Beyond is, the House by the Cemetery is completely incomprehensible. But should have placed in the comedy poll for the Little Bob's voice dub acting.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:04 (five years ago) Permalink

also, still finding movies missing from the nom list that have a shot on the lower echelons of my ballot *sniff*

burnt offerings (1976)

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:05 (five years ago) Permalink

Zombie is lugubriously paced and then there's a shark vs. zombie battle that's awesome in concept but *yawn* in execution.

Is Zombie the one where the girl has her eyeball impaled on a jutting wooden splinter in super slow-motion, or was that COTLD? Either way, that is one most harrowing death scenes ever iirc.

picture jean rollin (Pillbox), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:06 (five years ago) Permalink

I can't decide if the fact that I can't bring myself to watch it as an adult means I should include it or not.

I will tell you this: I found it just as horrifying and devastating as an adult as I did when I saw it as a kid. Feel free to take that as a recommendation or a dissuasive argument.

Harried Ice Craw (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:07 (five years ago) Permalink

If I were going to vote in this*, I'd put Testament at #1 and fill the rest of the ballot out with 19 films I didn't think would get any votes.

(*which I'm not; I don't like horror films and haven't seen many)

improvised explosive advice (WmC), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:07 (five years ago) Permalink

What does "horror film" mean, then? Any movie with a supernatural element? Is that why movies likes like The Isle or Stalker, which have absolutely no scary scenes at all, are on the list?

― Tuomas, Monday, April 16, 2012 1:40 PM (25 minutes ago)

any movie nominated which eric h allowed as "horror" is a horror film for purposes of this poll. thank you and have a nice day!

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:09 (five years ago) Permalink

I'd recommend you to vote, then, WmC! Do it for Testament's sake!

Harried Ice Craw (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:10 (five years ago) Permalink

I thought Testament was a very powerful movie and all, but am a little weirded out at how many people are calling it one of their likely top vote-getters.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:11 (five years ago) Permalink

Is Zombie the one where the girl has her eyeball impaled on a jutting wooden splinter in super slow-motion,

Yeah! It's great!

Zombi's the only Fulci film i rate that highly, although Lizard In A Woman's Skin is better from a technical perspective.

Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:11 (five years ago) Permalink

xpost In a horror movie poll.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:11 (five years ago) Permalink

also as eric pointed out on the nom thread, "scary" is a terrible barometer for what is a horror film, since he's only ever been frightened by a handful of films

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:12 (five years ago) Permalink

maybe wikipedia can help

Horror films are a movie genre seeking to elicit a negative emotional reaction from viewers by playing on the audience's most primal fears. They often feature scenes that startle the viewer through the means of macabre and the supernatural, thus they may overlap with the fantasy and supernatural genre. Horrors frequently overlap with the thriller genre.[1]

Horror films deal with the viewer's nightmares, hidden worst fears, revulsions and terror of the unknown. Although a good deal of it is about the supernatural, if some films contain a plot about morbidity, serial killers, a disease/virus outbreak and surrealism, they may be termed "horror".[1]

Plots written within the horror genre often involve the intrusion of an evil force, event, or personage, commonly of supernatural origin, into the everyday world. Themes or elements often prevalent in typical horror films include ghosts, torture, gore, werewolves, ancient curses, satanism, demons, vicious animals, vampires, cannibals, haunted houses, zombies, sadism and serial killers. Conversely, stories of the supernatural are not necessarily always a horror movie as well.

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:13 (five years ago) Permalink

I'd recommend you to vote, then, WmC! Do it for Testament's sake!

― Harried Ice Craw (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, April 16, 2012 1:10 PM (32 seconds ago)

Nah, it would feel dishonest. I haven't looked at the whole noms list, but I'd be surprised if I've even seen 20 of them.

improvised explosive advice (WmC), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:16 (five years ago) Permalink

Horror films are a movie genre seeking to elicit a negative emotional reaction from viewers by playing on the audience's most primal fears. They often feature scenes that startle the viewer through the means of macabre and the supernatural

ergo, patch adams, i accidentally domed your son and the john-travolta-in-drag hairspray should've been nominated as well ...

onibaba o'reilly (Eisbaer), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:16 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm gonna limit my hardcore nominee stumping to Testament and Possession. If at least some of y'all made a point of seeing those two before voting, I'd be over the moon.

enthusiastically second possession. one of the few films i really think more people need to see before voting. pontypool too!

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:17 (five years ago) Permalink

I thought Testament was a very powerful movie and all, but am a little weirded out at how many people are calling it one of their likely top vote-getters.

In the stew of elements that I feel make for an effective horror film, 'dread' is probably the most prominent. Testament is one of the most dread-full films I've ever seen. It's not a boilerplate horror film and probably all the more effective because it was never intended as such and because it doesn't use any tired formulae in its pursuit to make you feel dread.

Harried Ice Craw (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:17 (five years ago) Permalink

lastly, there are 734 movies in the nom list, maybe a dozen of them are not horror movies, that still leaves over 700 real live horror movies for you to choose from

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:18 (five years ago) Permalink

It is pretty horrible how dark the sky gets by the end.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:18 (five years ago) Permalink

If I did 50, The Sixth Sense wd certainly make ballot

however, I have a Big Poll project due 2 days after this one, so even 20 will be hard.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:19 (five years ago) Permalink

people can vote for whatever they want on the list ... and i haven't seen testament so i can't judge. it just seemed a bit odd to be included on a horror film poll, and i was curious as to why it was so included!

onibaba o'reilly (Eisbaer), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:19 (five years ago) Permalink

at least come and see isn't on our list

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:19 (five years ago) Permalink

the beyond is kind of like suspiria's slow brother, it tries to leap over yr aesthetic concerns by going for a similar pervasive atmosphere of terror, which translates to an almost poetic surrealism in some scenes, and a final sequence that is truly haunting. but it is a deeply stupid movie.

Yes, joining in the OTM fest on this. I love The Beyond, particularly the ending, but overall it is silly silly silly. Also gonna OTM carl agatha on the ludicrousness of the dub in The House by the Cemetery.

Please, please, anyone who is thinking of voting for Testament, make sure you watch Threads before you vote. It is far superior, and far far far scarier.

emil.y, Monday, 16 April 2012 18:22 (five years ago) Permalink

also as eric pointed out on the nom thread, "scary" is a terrible barometer for what is a horror film, since he's only ever been frightened by a handful of films

I wish scary movies scared me more. I LOVE being frightened in a controlled context, but the emotional callouses one can develop indulging in such things have long since dulled any actual sense of visceral fear I once got from horror. Every once in a while, though. something will genuinely give me the heebie-jeebies. I've found that it usually has just as much to do w/ the context in which something is seen as it does the film (or book etc.) itself.

picture jean rollin (Pillbox), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:23 (five years ago) Permalink

i don't mind the inclusion of films that have almost no relationship to horror as a genre, hell i nominated a bunch of them, but i'll be disappointed if they dominate the results. can't imagine they will, though, so no need to worry about it.

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:25 (five years ago) Permalink

Exactly, if enough people think they're horror films for them to feature in the countdown, they're probably going to be horror films.

Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:26 (five years ago) Permalink

Please, please, anyone who is thinking of voting for Testament, make sure you watch Threads before you vote. It is far superior, and far far far scarier.

I do intend to see Threads before I vote. I somehow doubt, though, that British nuclear panic could possibly compare to good ol' American nuke-yoo-lar panic.</arrogantpatriotism>

Harried Ice Craw (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:31 (five years ago) Permalink

another film that everyone should see before voting: ingmar bergman's hour of the wolf (vargtimmen). it's a real-deal horror movie in every respect: atmospheric, imaginative, dread-ful and haunted. plus lots of fun, intellectually rewarding and beautiful to look at. the perfect after-dark movie.

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:32 (five years ago) Permalink

So out of curiosity I checked the list and have seen 73 of them, almost exactly 10%. I'm surprised!

improvised explosive advice (WmC), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:33 (five years ago) Permalink

Having only just watched it, I enthusiastically second that recommendation. xpost

emil.y, Monday, 16 April 2012 18:34 (five years ago) Permalink

however, I have a Big Poll project due 2 days after this one, so even 20 will be hard.

Odds I'll extend the ballot window another week are pretty high.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:34 (five years ago) Permalink

I do intend to see Threads before I vote. I somehow doubt, though, that British nuclear panic could possibly compare to good ol' American nuke-yoo-lar panic.</arrogantpatriotism>

Threads is easily one of the most harrowing movies I've ever seen.

an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:36 (five years ago) Permalink

Actually, I believe I was thinking of The Day After, not Testament when I posted that, don't think I've seen the latter one. TDA is also a good film, but totally doesn't compare to Threads.

emil.y, Monday, 16 April 2012 18:38 (five years ago) Permalink

threads > testament > the day after

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:39 (five years ago) Permalink

Day After is practically a joke next to Testament imho

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:40 (five years ago) Permalink

i will also stan for hour of the wolf. good news, it's available on Netflix Instant and it's only 90 minutes so if y'all have nothing else to do y'all should watch it.

i've only seen a few parts of threads -- the parts immediately before, during and immediately after Sheffield gets nuked. the day after doesn't hold a candle to those scenes.

onibaba o'reilly (Eisbaer), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:41 (five years ago) Permalink

add some more >>>>>'s then

xp

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:41 (five years ago) Permalink

on the subject of Ingmar-horror, i'll also stan for the virgin spring ... you get to see a young, buff Max von Sydow uproot a birch tree, rip off its branches and flog himself before doing his ass-whuppin'. it's also available on HuluPlus.

onibaba o'reilly (Eisbaer), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:43 (five years ago) Permalink

The Day After was like a soap opera with some mild sadness in it.

With Threads, I felt like some of the actors actually died making the movie

an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:46 (five years ago) Permalink

the day after shook up RonaldRreagan to the point where he thanked the director after he signed a missile treaty with the Soviets. but not even threads could melt Margaret Thatcher's cold reptilian heart.

onibaba o'reilly (Eisbaer), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:49 (five years ago) Permalink

i thought that the day after, while soapy, eventually managed to be quite powerful. haven't seen threads for comparison.

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:52 (five years ago) Permalink

threads really is in a class by itself, not sure if I'd vote for it in a horror poll tho

I mean it is trying to disturb and horrify, and is wildly successful in doing so, but there's a social conscience aspect to its intent that doesn't really jive w/ my conception of horror

that said SEE THREADS

repeat if you have not seen threads SEE THREADS

this will be your final warning

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:57 (five years ago) Permalink

The Day After is like having your mom give you a long lecture about being careful when walking through the park by yourself at night

Threads is like walking through the park at night and being jumped by three muggers who kick you in the face until all of your teeth are knocked out, jump up and down on each of your limbs until they shatter, then strip you naked, drag you out to the sidewalk and throw your battered body in front of a speeding bus

an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:58 (five years ago) Permalink

that makes me never want to see threads. it's a fitting description of stuff like funny games and kidnapped, my single least favorite approach to "horror".

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:00 (five years ago) Permalink

xpost I'd vote for a movie that actually depicted that, provided the muggers were backwoods, incestuous triplets.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:00 (five years ago) Permalink

i mean, threads is supposed to be more moving that just brutal and despairing, right?

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:01 (five years ago) Permalink

do plan to watch it no matter what

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:01 (five years ago) Permalink

There's a heavy Italian bias to the things i nominated. Along with the big names like Argento, Bava, Fulci and Martino, i'd definitely recommend catching something by Aldo Lado. A lot of his films (Night Train Murders, for example) aren't all that good but the first two he directed, Who Saw Her Die? and The Short Night Of Glass Dolls, are excellent.

Who Saw Her Die? is an obvious riff on Don't Look Now, as George Lazenby rushes around Venice trying to work out who murdered his daughter, but i prefer it in a lot of ways. The Morricone score is one of his best too.

The Short Night Of Glass Dolls is arguably even better. Jean Sorel is found "dead" in the street and carted off to a mortuary. He's actually only paraylsed and has to work out, from his mortician's slab, what happened to him. It has one of the most memorable endings in the genre.

Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:03 (five years ago) Permalink

Testament is like discovering that your dog just finished eating an entire box of D-Con.

Harried Ice Craw (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:04 (five years ago) Permalink

Except instead of your dog IT'S YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY.

Harried Ice Craw (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:05 (five years ago) Permalink

that makes me never want to see threads. it's a fitting description of stuff like funny games and kidnapped, my single least favorite approach to "horror".

see, this is partly why I'd never rep threads as a horror film. it's drama, or maybe heavy dystopian sci-fi. it takes the concept of nuclear winter and extends it out to its logical conclusion in a very matter of fact way. it's harrowing in the same way holocaust films are harrowing. there's nothing gothic or grand guignol about it.

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:06 (five years ago) Permalink

A lot of straight horror films could stand to be more 'matter of fact' and less 'grand guignol'.

Harried Ice Craw (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:08 (five years ago) Permalink

I'd actually argue that, in a lot of cases, the extent that a horror film veers away from 'matter of fact' is the extent to which it pulls its punches. I enjoy a great deal of stylistic variation within the genre, but the pulled punches are the reason I find very little of the genre legitimately scary.

Harried Ice Craw (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:10 (five years ago) Permalink

see, this is partly why I'd never rep threads as a horror film. it's drama, or maybe heavy dystopian sci-fi. it takes the concept of nuclear winter and extends it out to its logical conclusion in a very matter of fact way. it's harrowing in the same way holocaust films are harrowing. there's nothing gothic or grand guignol about it.

I sort of agree with that, though I do think the ending takes it close to horror. But I am making an exception for its inclusion by voting for it on how much it makes me TERRIFIED, which I'm not going to judge many of the other films by.

Also, I know what DJP's getting at with his analogy (it's brutally intense) but I find it is more the deep dark futility of all action that gets to me, rather than any overt display of brutality.

emil.y, Monday, 16 April 2012 19:11 (five years ago) Permalink

Oh, I want to second ShariVari's recommendation of Short Night of Glass Dolls, too. Probably won't be high up on my ballot, but is pretty likely to make it in.

emil.y, Monday, 16 April 2012 19:12 (five years ago) Permalink

Given that The Day After more or less ruined my childhood, I don't think I'm going to watch Threads.

On my first pass through the nominations list, I've already got 53 yeses, 56 maybes, 22 movies to revisit, and 36 that I want to watch before voting.

lolsob

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:16 (five years ago) Permalink

I just culled it down to the 60 I'd actually seen and plan to weed out from there

an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:17 (five years ago) Permalink

OH BTW y'all really need to watch Apaches, too

it will ruin your life

an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:18 (five years ago) Permalink

Now Apaches has the bluntness and random, wonton death I've come to expect from great horror.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:19 (five years ago) Permalink

I wonder if they'll let me take a three-week sabbatical from work to get this all sorted out.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:20 (five years ago) Permalink

I have a shortlist of 80 or so that I might conceivably vote for(including the five or six movies I'd like to try and watch before voting) pared down from a list roughly three times as long of movies I've seen (and largely wouldn't dream of voting for).

Harried Ice Craw (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:20 (five years ago) Permalink

the only apaches i could find on Netflix was some East German propaganda film from 1973. although Stalinist propaganda and life behind the Iron Curtain were quite awful, i'm assuming that this isn't the horror film apaches that people are talking about now?!?

onibaba o'reilly (Eisbaer), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:31 (five years ago) Permalink

this is also something horrible & european from the 1970s and it's also about apaches:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo4glASbEh4

onibaba o'reilly (Eisbaer), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:32 (five years ago) Permalink

apaches was a public service type flick from the UK to convince kids not to play on farm equipment

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:33 (five years ago) Permalink

here ya go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0GyRz_lOQA

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:34 (five years ago) Permalink

*thread goes silent as everyone watches apaches*

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:40 (five years ago) Permalink

I think the thing that pushes Apaches firmly into the realm of horror is the aparent nonchalance of the adults. Oh, three of your playmates have died on that farm in as many days? Well, pay it no mind, dear. Run along and play now. It's infanticide by proxy, I tells ya.

Harried Ice Craw (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:40 (five years ago) Permalink

more discussion of Apaches here: Public information HORROR film.

an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:42 (five years ago) Permalink

Hmmmm. Amaches may be getting a couple points.

HE HATES THESE CANS (Austerity Ponies), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:49 (five years ago) Permalink

I think the thing that pushes Apaches firmly into the realm of horror is the aparent nonchalance of the adults. Oh, three of your playmates have died on that farm in as many days? Well, pay it no mind, dear. Run along and play now.

i interpret this more as LOL Britishes than LOL horror.

onibaba o'reilly (Eisbaer), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:53 (five years ago) Permalink

just submitted a ballot. i think most of the ilx hardcore horror crew would not be happy with it, it's pretty canonical and i tend to favor non-gore-heavy movies, but i had a few idiosyncratic choices that i wanted to make sure got points or else i wouldn't have bothered voting

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:55 (five years ago) Permalink

Oh, y'know, I shoulda nominated Burnt Offerings. That movie creeped the hell out of me.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:00 (five years ago) Permalink

It's on there, I think.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:00 (five years ago) Permalink

Wait, no. Sorry!

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:01 (five years ago) Permalink

I mean, I don't think it's probably a good movie. But as a teenager, it spooked me.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:04 (five years ago) Permalink

I'd actually argue that, in a lot of cases, the extent that a horror film veers away from 'matter of fact' is the extent to which it pulls its punches. I enjoy a great deal of stylistic variation within the genre, but the pulled punches are the reason I find very little of the genre legitimately scary.

"punches" certainly have something to do with horror, but aren't usually all that scary in and of themselves (jump scares notwithstanding). a film that simply and graphically depicted an child being burned with a lighter for an hour or two couldn't be accused of pulling any punches, but it probably wouldn't be at all scary. it would simply be repulsive and dispiriting. i completely disagree with deric here. matter of factness has no relationship to scariness. i'm not more scared by a knife wielding maniac in a film than a ghost simply because i think the former is more likely to exist. i'm not more scared by realism than fantasy. the scariest thing, imo, are the inchoate shapes the evocatively sculpted unknown can conjure in our minds. this is david lynch's best trick, and his films are hardly "matter of fact".

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:05 (five years ago) Permalink

the scariest thing, imo, are the inchoate shapes the evocatively sculpted unknown can conjure in our minds.

see, I think the scariest thing is subject-verb disagreement

an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:06 (five years ago) Permalink

lol THINGS

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:10 (five years ago) Permalink

I actually think we're agreeing in a weird way, contenderizer. When I say 'matter of fact' in this context, I'm not talking about bluntness or jump scares or realism (crazy dude vs. Lovecraftian Other) but rather the method of presentation. Camera tricks and spoooooky scores and anything OTT and showy are always, AFAIC, going to undercut any scares that a horror movie might've otherwise delivered. I'd argue that, by the definition I'm utilizing, Lynch's films are incredibly 'matter of fact' and, as a result, super effective. I suppose 'subtle' is a better word? It's about creating a substrate of normalcy that lulls the viewer into a false sense of security before letting things go horribly awry.

Harried Ice Craw (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:19 (five years ago) Permalink

agreed, contenderizer. mystery/the unknown is much more effective than laying everything out. making something familiar/normal/matter-of-fact takes away what makes it frightening - or if it's something sadistic or disgusting that really shouldn't be normalized/made familiar, then it's just cruel and depressing

Chris S, Monday, 16 April 2012 20:21 (five years ago) Permalink

Camera tricks and spoooooky scores and anything OTT and showy are always, AFAIC, going to undercut any scares that a horror movie might've otherwise delivered.

i'm even more lost now. lynch relies heavily on effects and music to generate a sense of dread.

figure you're drawing a distinction between that which reads as "horror cliche" and other means of generating atmosphere. on that level, i agree. old-fashioned "spooky" organ doesn't seem scary anymore because it's become familiar.

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:27 (five years ago) Permalink

I mean, I can see the horror of being forced to face some abject condition, like Cronenberg-style body horror, but if it veers too much in to some demystified, scientifically-clinical, almost sociopathic perspective on the condition then it's taking away the alienation and repulsion that actually makes it horrific and becomes a sociopathic gaze

Chris S, Monday, 16 April 2012 20:29 (five years ago) Permalink

re apaches: LOL death by drowning in animal shit

onibaba o'reilly (Eisbaer), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:29 (five years ago) Permalink

on the subject of Ingmar-horror, i'll also stan for the virgin spring ... you get to see a young, buff Max von Sydow uproot a birch tree, rip off its branches and flog himself before doing his ass-whuppin'. it's also available on HuluPlus.

Does its availability on HuluPlus make it horror too?

Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 16 April 2012 20:31 (five years ago) Permalink

I think Through a Glass Darkly is the creepiest of the Bergmans I've seen. (Whether or not it's a horror film.)

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:33 (five years ago) Permalink

that's what i get by forgetting english composition basics, i suppose.

xpost

onibaba o'reilly (Eisbaer), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:34 (five years ago) Permalink

ah didn't see Deric's response xxp.

Chris S, Monday, 16 April 2012 20:34 (five years ago) Permalink

I mean, I can see the horror of being forced to face some abject condition, like Cronenberg-style body horror, but if it veers too much in to some demystified, scientifically-clinical, almost sociopathic perspective on the condition then it's taking away the alienation and repulsion that actually makes it horrific and becomes a sociopathic gaze

this is an interesting distinction, though i'm not sure about the "sociopathic gaze" part. i strongly dislike what i consider sadism-as-horror, where the horror element is simply the spectacle of prolonged suffering, dehumanization and despair. this type of horror is often very matter of fact, but i rarely find it scary or otherwise compelling.

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:36 (five years ago) Permalink

figure you're drawing a distinction between that which reads as "horror cliche" and other means of generating atmosphere. on that level, i agree. old-fashioned "spooky" organ doesn't seem scary anymore because it's become familiar.

Yes, this is what I mean. Me am no good describe things today. Standard horror movie scoring, for example, often detracts from scariness, whereas the use of source music or Lynchian sound effects/scoring (or no music at all) tends to be much more effective.

Harried Ice Craw (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:36 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm starting to suspect that our ballots won't be too stylistically dissimilar from one another, contenderizer.

Harried Ice Craw (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:37 (five years ago) Permalink

that apaches film is something else ... it's one part dry horror, one part critique of American cultural imperialism (the flower of British youth playing Cowboys and Indians and running around w/ popguns imitating Starsky & Hutch), and one part surrealism. i also just found out via Wikipedia that it was directed by the same guy who directed the long good friday (one of my favorite British films of all time).

onibaba o'reilly (Eisbaer), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:57 (five years ago) Permalink

I've been pretty busy w/ lolwork of late & missed a lot of activity on the previous thread.. I'm just curious is Mr. Hal Jam has chimed in on any of this. I have much love for all yall ilx horror stans, but that dude's ballot is the one I'm most curious about (if he submits one, that is).

picture jean rollin (Pillbox), Monday, 16 April 2012 21:01 (five years ago) Permalink

the girl who tastes the poison and then dies screaming later that night was the one that REALLY got to me

that, and the parents solemnly emptying the dead kids' dressers

an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Monday, 16 April 2012 21:03 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm just curious is Mr. Hal Jam has chimed in on any of this. I have much love for all yall ilx horror stans, but that dude's ballot is the one I'm most curious about (if he submits one, that is).

yeah, i'd be interested in hearing from HJ, too, but i don't think i've seen him posting on horror threads since i returned a few months back

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Monday, 16 April 2012 21:08 (five years ago) Permalink

when we were in grade school, we had one gross-out contest where we had to answer whether we'd rather drown in a tubful of shit or a tubful of vomit.

onibaba o'reilly (Eisbaer), Monday, 16 April 2012 21:09 (five years ago) Permalink

"I would prefer not to."

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Monday, 16 April 2012 21:14 (five years ago) Permalink

I said mr hal jam's name 3x into a mirror at midnight on the nom thread and he still didn't appear

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 21:16 (five years ago) Permalink

Oh, y'know, I shoulda nominated Burnt Offerings. That movie creeped the hell out of me.

I mean, I don't think it's probably a good movie. But as a teenager, it spooked me.

― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, April 16, 2012 4:04 PM (1 hour ago)

same here, it's not a very good movie but it has some super creepy parts. namely:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/burnt_offerings.jpg

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 21:22 (five years ago) Permalink

this is an interesting distinction, though i'm not sure about the "sociopathic gaze" part. i strongly dislike what i consider sadism-as-horror, where the horror element is simply the spectacle of prolonged suffering, dehumanization and despair. this type of horror is often very matter of fact, but i rarely find it scary or otherwise compelling.

― BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Monday, April 16, 2012 4:36 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This seems like a very tricky distinction to make wrt horror in general. Anything short of an actual snuff film that is made w/ respect to the genre, even tangentially, will generally have at least some element of the macabre - I would say this is true of even the most sadistic examples of recent 'torture porn' & 70s exploitation. I could see rejecting something like Salo or I Spit on Your Grave on such a basis, but both of those are on the far-flung fringes of the genre anyway, and might not even constitute inclusion as legit 'horror' by many (though I tend to allot fairly wide parameters personally).

Also, p sure you came to the defense of Cannibal Holocaust when I ranted about the turtle scene some years ago - and if CH doesn't epitomize what you're talking about, what would?

picture jean rollin (Pillbox), Monday, 16 April 2012 21:24 (five years ago) Permalink

Standard horror movie scoring, for example, often detracts from scariness, whereas the use of source music or Lynchian sound effects/scoring (or no music at all) tends to be much more effective.

agreed on this. I'd say the problem today is an overreliance on a certain kind of jumpy post-Mtv editing and color treatment (that originated in late-90s Marylin Manson/nu-metal videos) that tries really hard to be cool/edgy (in a Hot Topic/mallgoth/WB/CW-series/Slipknot way) rather than scary (maybe the horror version of the raised-eyebrow-poochie-Pixar-film problem?), and especially a lazy fallback on loud booms and cracks and jumpscares (not to be confused with Lynch's nightmarish use of sound and atmosphere). horror trailers almost completely rely on loud cracking noises and lame Korn aesthetics

Chris S, Monday, 16 April 2012 21:33 (five years ago) Permalink

speaking of which, have y'all seen rob zombie's woolite commercial???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj87E-bc3xE

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 21:35 (five years ago) Permalink

^ tops the list of things I'd never thought I'd say back when I was blasting white zombie's soulcrusher in my bedroom in 1988

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 21:37 (five years ago) Permalink

lol

picture jean rollin (Pillbox), Monday, 16 April 2012 21:38 (five years ago) Permalink

'don't let your laundry get tied up into a Slipknot"

Chris S, Monday, 16 April 2012 21:39 (five years ago) Permalink

Also, p sure you came to the defense of Cannibal Holocaust when I ranted about the turtle scene some years ago - and if CH doesn't epitomize what you're talking about, what would?

I'm not a Cannibal Holocaust defender and never have been (unless I'm forgetting something). The animal cruelty is bad enough, but I find the whole thing infuriatingly hypocritical, pretending to condemn what it flagrantly wallows in. Plus it's slow, ugly and boring.

I'm not a big fan of the seedy underbelly of exploitation cinema, tbh. I've seen a lot of it, but have few favorites that fall into categories like 'torture porn', 'extreme horror' or '70s exploitation'. There are certain visions and attitudes that I just can't enjoy, and they seem all but inescapable in certain subgenres. Wanton cruelty, misogyny, prolonged torture & rape, brutal nihilism: these things are almost always dealbreakers for me, unless distanced by means of camp (thinking of HGL's Blood Feast and the Findlay's Her Flesh films, for example).

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Monday, 16 April 2012 21:41 (five years ago) Permalink

but more importantly what do you think of rob zombie's woolite commercial

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 21:42 (five years ago) Permalink

that, and the parents solemnly emptying the dead kids' dressers

Dan, you need to watch Testament. It's basically about solemnly dealing with inevitable horror. I was just skipping through clips on YouTube (the whole thing is available in sections) and feeling very intensely overwhelmed by the remembrance of certain scenes (a mother quietly sewing her dead daughter up in her bedsheets, LUKAS HAAS IN THE SINK). No one can tell me this isn't horror!!

Harried Ice Craw (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 16 April 2012 21:43 (five years ago) Permalink

I did not realize Rob Zombie directed that, but I'm completely unsurprised. Which is the opposite reaction I had to seeing that commercial in prime time.

Harried Ice Craw (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 16 April 2012 21:44 (five years ago) Permalink

I'd say the problem today is an overreliance on a certain kind of jumpy post-Mtv editing and color treatment ... that tries really hard to be cool/edgy ... rather than scary ..., and especially a lazy fallback on loud booms and cracks and jumpscares... horror trailers almost completely rely on loud cracking noises and lame Korn aesthetics

yeah this. the scratchy film, twitchy fonts and industrial tones approach is absolutely THEE WORST thing about contemporary horror aesthetics

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Monday, 16 April 2012 21:46 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah, I hate that shit

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 April 2012 21:46 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm not a Cannibal Holocaust defender and never have been (unless I'm forgetting something). The animal cruelty is bad enough, but I find the whole thing infuriatingly hypocritical, pretending to condemn what it flagrantly wallows in. Plus it's slow, ugly and boring.

hmm.. sry baout that then. Maybe your were playing devil's advocate, or maybe I'm completely mistaken!

picture jean rollin (Pillbox), Monday, 16 April 2012 21:47 (five years ago) Permalink

lol nu-metal horror

onibaba o'reilly (Eisbaer), Monday, 16 April 2012 22:11 (five years ago) Permalink

speaking of which: no-one bothered to nominate either of Insane Clown Posse's movies (both of which could be considered "horror" i suppose).

onibaba o'reilly (Eisbaer), Monday, 16 April 2012 22:14 (five years ago) Permalink

nu-metal horror is only horror in it being an extremely unpleasant aesthetic experience

Chris S, Monday, 16 April 2012 22:24 (five years ago) Permalink

anyone see the lordi movie?

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Monday, 16 April 2012 22:26 (five years ago) Permalink

ha no, it was in my netflix queue but I think it expired

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 22:27 (five years ago) Permalink

wth was it called lonely floors or something

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 22:27 (five years ago) Permalink

DARK FLOORS

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 22:27 (five years ago) Permalink

should've used spic n span!

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 22:27 (five years ago) Permalink

keep meaning to watch it, then forgetting, or thinking of something better

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Monday, 16 April 2012 22:28 (five years ago) Permalink

I mean what could possibly be better than the lordi movie

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 22:29 (five years ago) Permalink

good question

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Monday, 16 April 2012 22:30 (five years ago) Permalink

I had no idea Lordi were in that! I've been skipping past it on the Lovefilm menu but i'll have to watch it this weekend.

Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Monday, 16 April 2012 22:56 (five years ago) Permalink

don't forget abt DEATH BED ppl!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMkxVmLHIMk

fyi the death bed is the bed that EATS

picture jean rollin (Pillbox), Monday, 16 April 2012 23:30 (five years ago) Permalink

Finishing off my ballot, and I realize that even though Jaws is one of my favourite films of the decade, it doesn't feel like a horror film to me. I can't really make a credible argument as to why--I can't say it's because there's no supernatural element, as I'll be listing other films that don't have that either. I can't even say it's because so much of takes place during daylight hours; that's true of The Birds, too, yet that feels more like horror to me. I don't know what it is. Maybe I'm just wrong--but I'm leaving it off.

clemenza, Monday, 16 April 2012 23:48 (five years ago) Permalink

No, I get that. Jaws doesn't feel like horror to me. A thriller, sure, but not horror (although the difference between the two could take all day to parse). It has something to do with directorial choices, at the end of the day. Compare, for example, the emergence of the shark in the "We need a bigger boat." scene with the emergence of the tripods in War of the Worlds (one of the only real "horror" sequences I can think of in Spielberg's oeuvre). In the first instance, Spielberg directed the scene so as to invoke surprise and exhilaration in the audience. In the second, he directed it so as to invoke panic and dread.

Harried Ice Craw (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 16 April 2012 23:59 (five years ago) Permalink

sacrifice to the fire pit in temple of doom is another spielberg horror moment. visit of the saucer-lights to the house in close encounters arguably swings that way too. nothing in jaws registers as horror to me. it's a thriller, a man-against-nature survival tale.

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 00:08 (five years ago) Permalink

you guys

Spielberg was an uncredited director on Poltergeist

an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 01:08 (five years ago) Permalink

Lots of Spielberg horror moments in the two Jurassic Park movies he directed, and in Schindler's List, too.

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 01:19 (five years ago) Permalink

Fuuuuuuuuck how did I not notice that burnt offerings never got nominated

Rango Unchained (jjjusten), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 01:29 (five years ago) Permalink

Also: The Terminal. Like, the entire movie, amirite.

Also also: yeah, Dan, but I still don't think that's technically been substantiated. I was just going with what we know.

Oh, Duel was kinda horror-y, iirc.

Harried Ice Craw (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 01:30 (five years ago) Permalink

you guys

Spielberg was an uncredited director on Poltergeist

oh i know, but i've argued abt that too many times to want to go into it again

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 01:38 (five years ago) Permalink

I just noticed that last-minute write-ins are okay. So even though I'll be the only vote, and even though it's a stretch to call it horror (although it does contain various tropes of the genre), I'm putting Sybil in my top 20. There's almost nothing that ever terrified me as much as the mother and the "green kitchen"--in 1976, when it first played on TV, or when I watched it again a few months ago.

http://elmarcapaginas.com/images/sybil_03.png

clemenza, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 01:44 (five years ago) Permalink

May I bring the conversation down for a moment? Firestarter 2: Rekindloled is made for TV and it would be cute but they revised the original story, and that's not right. Come the fuck on. They could have made a perfectly terrible made-for-TV movie without those irrelevant changes.

Also, Stpephen King is a dipshit for hating The Shining, but then to the made-for-TV remake.

And his bitter public statements toward the guy who hit him with his car are NAGL, either.

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 02:46 (five years ago) Permalink

Got five ballots already. Good job, people.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 02:49 (five years ago) Permalink

Stephen King has terrrrrrrrrrrible taste in movies made from his own books. I think he actually rates 1408 but not Carrie, The Dead Zone or The Shining.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 02:49 (five years ago) Permalink

xp

you won't be getting mine for another two weeks at least. got some catching up to do, and i want to see what people rep for. like i'm gonna watch threads at least.

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 02:53 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I need to try and finish my own ballot by the end of the day tomorrow. I want to make sure I'm not influenced by the direction other ballots are taking the poll.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 02:54 (five years ago) Permalink

Everyone watch anguish before voting

Rango Unchained (jjjusten), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 02:55 (five years ago) Permalink

I've probably related this anecdote before (from an old interview with King).

In the middle of making The Shining, King got a 3:00 a.m. phone call from Kubrick. "Do you believe in god?" Kubrick asked him; King replied that he did. "I don't," said Kubrick, then hung up. King said that this got to the core of his problem with the original--that to get the film right, you had to believe in god. So he redid it himself. I have no desire to see the remake.

clemenza, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 02:58 (five years ago) Permalink

King is so wrong. Even the book itself doesn't have much to do with god, demons, eternal damnation. Most of its power comes from its depiction of a man refusing to come to terms with his own limitations as a patriarch.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 03:00 (five years ago) Permalink

Everyone watch Anguish before voting

^ knows what's up. i nominated it figuring it for a dark horse at best, but it's fucking awesome and completely insane. gots michael lerner and zelda rubinstein! and telepathic snails.

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 03:04 (five years ago) Permalink

The story was so unusual, it's stayed in my mind ever since, but then and now, it seems like such narrow and theoretical grounds on which to dismiss the entire film. My guess is that it's a colourful story (maybe embellished, maybe not) standing in for a various other problems he had with Kubrick's film.

clemenza, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 03:09 (five years ago) Permalink

Everyone watch anguish before voting

I really appreciate this sort of campaigning! Putting together this ballot has been humbling.

The Shinging remake was a mini-series, right? It was certainly at least 2 episodes. It was offensive. Far worse than Firestarter 2.

It's interesting that Dennis Hopper and Malcolm McDowell are in Firefart 2. How much did this thing pay? MM is kind of funny in parts. He manages to make terrible lines funny, e.g., re a dead guy in a restaurant cooler, "Now, you don't suppose this is a health code violation, do you?"

And Dennis Hopper is a fine looking man!

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 03:15 (five years ago) Permalink

Movie that I thought was nominated the whole time: House on the Edge of the Park
Movie that actually was nominated: House by the Cemetery

Oops. Oh well. Here's my mildly enthusiastic FYC for that as a write-in, tho I guess it might not make anything but the lowermost reaches of my own ballot.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 03:16 (five years ago) Permalink

Other movies I am only now realizing weren't nominated (in most cases, great movies that just happen to have horror tones):

Ms. 45
The Act of Seeing with One's Own Eyes
Last Year at Marienbad
The Leopard Man
After Death

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 03:41 (five years ago) Permalink

Terribly happy to see Ganja And Hess mentioned.

"Fourvel - it's like Fievel, but one less." (R Baez), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 03:45 (five years ago) Permalink

I just noticed that last-minute write-ins are okay. So even though I'll be the only vote, and even though it's a stretch to call it horror (although it does contain various tropes of the genre), I'm putting Sybil in my top 20.

Sybil is THE ONLY movie I have ever seen that has given me weeks and weeks of nightmares. I know I've mentioned this before. Another vote here if I know it'll count! That movie is straight up terrifying.

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 03:55 (five years ago) Permalink

Last Year at Marienbad

lol, it's not horror at all, but would totally have voted for this

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 05:00 (five years ago) Permalink

Movie that I thought was nominated the whole time: House on the Edge of the Park
Movie that actually was nominated: House by the Cemetery

Oops. Oh well. Here's my mildly enthusiastic FYC for that as a write-in...

man, we just do not see eye to eye on this kind of stuff

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 05:01 (five years ago) Permalink

Terribly happy to see Ganja And Hess mentioned.

need to see this again. i watched it about a decade back and was seriously in love with the first half hour or so, but kind of zoned out as it went along and barely remember the second half. so strange and dankly atmospheric, psychedelic even, but also slooooooow as all not get out.

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 05:04 (five years ago) Permalink

also wanna see ms. 45. have been meaning to check it out for 25 years!

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 05:05 (five years ago) Permalink

Most disturbing moment in Apaches: the one kid momentarily forgetting how many of them are left alive.

"There are only FOUR of us."
"oh yeah..."

Look at how funky he is! (jer.fairall), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 06:23 (five years ago) Permalink

Sybil is THE ONLY movie I have ever seen that has given me weeks and weeks of nightmares.

I bet that anyone who's ever seen it has never forgotten the mother. The horror-film aspect is made very explicit at one point, a scene that ends with Sybil cowering in a corner after one of her flashbacks, whimpering and sucking her thumb; "What did that monster do to you?" Joanne Woodward asks, and in terms of how the mother's presented, she's not really speaking metaphorically.

clemenza, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 11:22 (five years ago) Permalink

Hey all,

Haven't read/tabulated any of the ballots that have come in yet ... pending the nailing down of my own ballot (have it down to 100 and will pare down during my lunch today). But I'd like to just make one small request: could you make sure to let me know what your ILX username is when you're submitting ballots? Or, if you're a lurker, that's cool too.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 13:36 (five years ago) Permalink

Mine should be obvious but if not, let me know.

Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 13:38 (five years ago) Permalink

Yours was the first one to roll in. You get the booby prize.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 13:42 (five years ago) Permalink

As in you show yours and are the first one killed.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 13:42 (five years ago) Permalink

re: Anguish - arrrgh dying to see this but they didn't have it at my local store :(

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:39 (five years ago) Permalink

is it on Netflix?

an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 15:48 (five years ago) Permalink

yes but not streaming

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:50 (five years ago) Permalink

i will be voting for anguish.

i am not getting off the couch today until i mail eric my ballot. otherwise i will forget. again.

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 17:46 (five years ago) Permalink

Is the BUG on this list the Friedkin film, or that older killer beetles (or whatever) one?

Look at how funky he is! (jer.fairall), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:39 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah, I was going to suggest that bug (1975) and bug (2006) get added to the list for clarity's sake but then figured no one would vote for either of them

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:43 (five years ago) Permalink

eric, my ballot came from naamme at gmail.

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:44 (five years ago) Permalink

Was considering voting for Bug '06, but I decided I'm only gonna do 20 (not a genre expert) and it just barely misses.

Look at how funky he is! (jer.fairall), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:53 (five years ago) Permalink

I have no desire to see the (Shining) remake.

― clemenza, Monday, April 16, 2012 9:58 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I actually liked the remake (probably not a widely-shared opinion.) It's not great, but it hews closer to the book, without Kubrick's additions and without Nicholson's hamminess.

Advanced Uncle Meat recovery system (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:59 (five years ago) Permalink

Sent!

Look at how funky he is! (jer.fairall), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:02 (five years ago) Permalink

is it too late to nominate screaming racist genital mutilation cake (2012)?

HE HATES THESE CANS (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:31 (five years ago) Permalink

guess I should start repping for favorites while ppl still have time to watch.

shivers - cronenberg's first feature length is also, on the whole, the best of his early films. creepy, claustrophobic, transgressive. unfortunately the DVD is out of print in the US.

carnival of souls - if you can forgive its technical problems (poor dubbing in some scenes, wooden acting) and focus instead on its strengths (some amazing cinematography, a smart script, heavy atmosphere of existential dread), maybe you'll agree that it's one of the all-time greats. a waking nightmare.

ringu - granted, the remake is v good, but not better than the quiet, creepy original. I don't know what it is about that climactic scene, so simple in execution, surreal in its implications, and effective beyond whatever its legion of imitators could accomplish.

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:38 (five years ago) Permalink

Carnival of Souls bores me to tears. don't get the love for it.

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:39 (five years ago) Permalink

i think it's good, but not a personal all-time favorite. agree w edIII that everyone should see it though.

i like the ringu remake, personally. it's not as strange and unnerving as the original, but it's a solid contemporary ghost story.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:42 (five years ago) Permalink

Is the US version of Ringu worth catching if you've already seen the Japanese films?

Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:42 (five years ago) Permalink

I love Carnival of Souls! LOVE. The quietly unlikable female lead is only part of the reason, but also the music is great and the dream sequences are pretty scary, imo.

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:42 (five years ago) Permalink

Is the US version of Ringu worth catching if you've already seen the Japanese films?

I actually like the US version much better. It felt more cohesive to me and was scarier for it.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:45 (five years ago) Permalink

Thanks! I'll have to get hold of a copy.

Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:46 (five years ago) Permalink

Is the US version of Ringu worth catching if you've already seen the Japanese films?

yeah. it's a very nice-looking film, with atmospherically moody photography and lighting, some interesting production design. it fleshes out the mystery so it's more a "proper story" and less a bizarre enigma with a reveal at the end. it's more in line with american cinematic conventions, but not really any worse for that and still scary as hell. i enjoyed it.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:48 (five years ago) Permalink

^^^ what he said

For perspective, I haaaated the US remake of The Grudge, loved the original.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:51 (five years ago) Permalink

I went as Samara for Halloween one year and this bozo at the party was all "Who are you supposed to be?" and I hissed "Seven days!!!" at him and he was like "Saturdays? Cool, I guess" and I knew these were not my people.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:53 (five years ago) Permalink

hahahaha

an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:55 (five years ago) Permalink

carnival of souls - if you can forgive its technical problems (poor dubbing in some scenes, wooden acting) and focus instead on its strengths (some amazing cinematography, a smart script, heavy atmosphere of existential dread), maybe you'll agree that it's one of the all-time greats. a waking nightmare.

This is totally OTM. I think the lead is actually a pretty good actress, but the dubbing makes her seem a little off, and the rest of the cast can be quite bamboozling. And yet... it keeps up a very strong sense of eeriness, and does tip over into nightmare alley in segments.

emil.y, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:56 (five years ago) Permalink

DJP, my first instinct after seeing the ring was to make a VHS copy of the cursed video, slap a "copy" sticker from work on it, and mail it to you.

HE HATES THESE CANS (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:59 (five years ago) Permalink

but I was too lazy ;_;

HE HATES THESE CANS (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:59 (five years ago) Permalink

Also, I will be miffed if the American Ring gets in above the Japanese original. Not because it's bad or anything (I haven't seen it) but simply because the Japanese one was great, and the remake basically took away a load of its potential audience (I realise it also gave the story to some people who would never have watched the original, but you can see what I mean when you note someone who seems to have a good grasp of horror like c.a. dress up as Samara instead of Sadako).

xpost the first two times I saw Ringu the phone went off exactly as the credits rolled. The first time was a prank by my friend I watched it with, but I was completely alone when I watched it the second time, and nobody knew I was watching it. I did not answer, hell no.

emil.y, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:05 (five years ago) Permalink

Sorry to say, The Ring will be on my ballot but Ringu won't make it. I just didn't like it that much.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:07 (five years ago) Permalink

;_;

emil.y, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:09 (five years ago) Permalink

sound design in ringu is p amazing iirc

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:09 (five years ago) Permalink

I've seen ringu a bunch of times but never had the desire to rewatch the ring

wonder if it's one of those things where whichever you saw first will always be yr fave?

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:11 (five years ago) Permalink

ringu is good, true. ring is one of the few non-embarrassing horror remakes of the 21st-century.

i am probably more seduced by american ring because it is more "technically assured" or wtfever.

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:20 (five years ago) Permalink

though in many ways it did unfortunately launch the "everything looks like it was shot under flickering fluorescent lights and through blue-grey filters, even the outdoor scenes" thing.

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:21 (five years ago) Permalink

Speaking of stuff to see before voting, marebito is an unsung masterpiece imo. Also shutter is on Netflix streaming fyi.

Rango Unchained (jjjusten), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:23 (five years ago) Permalink

marebito sounds great! will watch asap

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:37 (five years ago) Permalink

interested due to the presence of tsukamota as much as anything else, i have to admit...

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:38 (five years ago) Permalink

man my ballot is just embarrassingly m.o.r.

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:39 (five years ago) Permalink

but i have to go with my heart

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:39 (five years ago) Permalink

or maybe my gut, given the subject

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:39 (five years ago) Permalink

and while we're on the subject of recent japanese stuff, i wanna put in a word for Noroi: The Curse. it's a documentary-style horror film, not perfect, but very clever and spooky as hell. recommended to anyone who dug ringu and/or ju-on.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:43 (five years ago) Permalink

uh, "tsukamota" = shinya tsukamoto

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:44 (five years ago) Permalink

man my ballot is just embarrassingly m.o.r.

Exactly what I thought when I sent in mine. More than with comedy, more than with almost any music list I assemble, my horror-film ballot was like an AFI list (with a predominance of post-Psycho picks). I guess horror films bring out the stodgy classicist in me.

clemenza, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 22:37 (five years ago) Permalink

here's to stodgy classicism

http://www.therealmusician.com/images/pie-in-the-face.jpg

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 23:23 (five years ago) Permalink

Seeing Possession on the list, makes me wonder if anyone's seen Zulawski's On The Silver Globe...

I haven't, but, judging by descriptions, I suspect it deserves some sort of mention.

"Fourvel - it's like Fievel, but one less." (R Baez), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 23:40 (five years ago) Permalink

Actually, I've been meaning to mention three key writers on the genre: 1) Robin Wood, for The American Nightmare--I've mentioned that book a few times; 2)David Pirie, who wrote A Heritage of Horror about Hammer Films (where I found out about The Conqueror Room and The Devil Rides Out and things like that; 3) Carlos Clarens, who may have written the earliest genre history. It's been ages, but they all influenced me when I first started paying attention to this stuff.

clemenza, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 23:42 (five years ago) Permalink

on the silver globe usually considered sci-fi.... pretty sure there's a zulawski thread around here somewhere

xp

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 23:52 (five years ago) Permalink

lol @ the conqueror room

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 23:53 (five years ago) Permalink

hammer stuff got under-nommed but it's been so long since I've seen most of the frankenstein/dracula series I'm not sure which I'd even vote for. I don't think a single one of those films got nommed? very disappointed in you brits tbh

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 23:56 (five years ago) Permalink

i thought about nominating some of that stuff, but tbh, i'm not very familiar with it, so i figured i'd leave it to others. surprised that no one here seems to care about that era.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 23:59 (five years ago) Permalink

i feel like redoing my ballot and including nothing but unearthed and toetag films.

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 00:01 (five years ago) Permalink

if i won't speak up for slaughtered vomit dolls, who will?

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 00:03 (five years ago) Permalink

SOME NOTES:

- Seeing Coffin Joe nominated thrills me, largely because all I can remember of his movies is him being not so much evil as obnoxious, moody, and self-righteous.

- DUMPLINGS!! is an eyecatcher on that list.

- Leprechaun 2 nominated, but not Leprechaun.

"Fourvel - it's like Fievel, but one less." (R Baez), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 00:09 (five years ago) Permalink

HEADS UP TO VOTERS:

DON'T FORGET Def By Temptation!

"Fourvel - it's like Fievel, but one less." (R Baez), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 00:13 (five years ago) Permalink

hammer stuff got under-nommed but it's been so long since I've seen most of the frankenstein/dracula series I'm not sure which I'd even vote for. I don't think a single one of those films got nommed? very disappointed in you brits tbh

Hammer films are like Carry On films in that they're mostly good but quite similar to each other, the only one I can think of that really stands out is Witchfinder General (was that even Hammer?). Also they turn up on tv a lot, or used to at least, so they don't seem like anything special here.

0O0O0O0O0 (Matt #2), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 00:14 (five years ago) Permalink

"The Conqueror Room"--yikes. Vincent Price rides around the English countryside, trying to rid the country of...I can't even figure out a punchline for that one. Maybe should have gone with Witchfinder General.

clemenza, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 00:18 (five years ago) Permalink

The Conqueror Room: Vincent Price rides around the English countryside, trying to convince Denny that two is great, but three is a crowd.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 00:20 (five years ago) Permalink

"You're tearing me apart, Hopkins!"

emil.y, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 00:20 (five years ago) Permalink

hammer stuff got under-nommed but it's been so long since I've seen most of the frankenstein/dracula series I'm not sure which I'd even vote for. I don't think a single one of those films got nommed? very disappointed in you brits tbh

Hammer films are like Carry On films in that they're mostly good but quite similar to each other, the only one I can think of that really stands out is Witchfinder General (was that even Hammer?). Also they turn up on tv a lot, or used to at least, so they don't seem like anything special here.

― 0O0O0O0O0 (Matt #2), Tuesday, April 17, 2012 8:14 PM (8 minutes ago)

there are a couple of hammer films nommed, just not any from the dracula/frankenstein camp. I get the cultural fatigue but it strikes me as, like, not nomming any of the corman poe adaptions.

also roomfinder general is not a hammer film

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 00:34 (five years ago) Permalink

It's Tigon, right?

emil.y, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 00:39 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah tigon/aip

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 00:45 (five years ago) Permalink

I dunno maybe those hammer films just haven't aged well

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 00:46 (five years ago) Permalink

The Pirie book may have been about British horror films in general, with a focus on Hammer. But I see The Conqueror Worm's in the first Danny Peary cult-movie book, so maybe that's where I first found out about it.

clemenza, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 00:47 (five years ago) Permalink

Just scanning over a list of Hammer films, and yeah, most of them do blur into one for me. For some reason I thought Theatre of Blood was a Hammer, but noooo.

emil.y, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 00:52 (five years ago) Permalink

peary's cult movies turned me on to so many movies in the 80s

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 01:00 (five years ago) Permalink

i missed all the threads/testament discussion earlier, but like i said in the noms thread, threads is a lock for my top ten. and unlike e3, it totally fits my definition of horror, or at least one of them. i can't think of anything much more horrifying than the complete breakdown of human society, especially since [SPOILERS?] the ending hints at a slight hopefulness for survival that's even more horrifying than the entire destruction of all organic life on the planet, and in the best horror movie tradition it makes the whole thing gripping (if not thrilling).

plus it's available to watch in its entirety for free on google video. #hintsfromstrongoise

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 01:03 (five years ago) Permalink

I nommed Dracula: Prince of Darkness. It's got a lot more action than a lot of Hammer Dracula films, and Christopher Lee is in fine form. Also nommed The Woman in Black, which I'm not expecting a lot of support for but I loved it.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 01:29 (five years ago) Permalink

Nine ballots so far. No movie shows up on more than six, and only two boast that number.

Almost wish I could've preserved the results in amber at four ballots. The number one movie would've shocked the hell out of everyone.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 03:17 (five years ago) Permalink

it's i accidentally domed your son amirite?!?

a big fat fucking fat guy in a barrel what could be better? (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 03:21 (five years ago) Permalink

Original or remake?

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 03:28 (five years ago) Permalink

i missed all the threads/testament discussion earlier, but like i said in the noms thread, threads is a lock for my top ten. and unlike e3, it totally fits my definition of horror, or at least one of them. i can't think of anything much more horrifying than the complete breakdown of human society, especially since [SPOILERS?] the ending hints at a slight hopefulness for survival that's even more horrifying than the entire destruction of all organic life on the planet, and in the best horror movie tradition it makes the whole thing gripping (if not thrilling).

plus it's available to watch in its entirety for free on google video. #hintsfromstrongoise

― jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, April 17, 2012 9:03 PM (Yesterday)

I can see why somebody would consider threads a horror movie, it's pretty horrific, and I've gone back and forth on it myself as y'all debate. but for some reason threads feels more akin to bleak desolation fests like pixote or come and see. they all depict hell on earth, it's just in threads it's a hell that hasn't yet occurred.

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 17:35 (five years ago) Permalink

OK, so I just copy-pasted the nom list into Word so I can start winnowing out the ones I haven't seen and go from there, and it runs 16 pages.

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 17:40 (five years ago) Permalink

cutting one of 2,000 Maniacs! and Two-Thousand Maniacs could help bring it down to 15

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 17:45 (five years ago) Permalink

Who's the joker who nommed Donkey Punch?

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 17:55 (five years ago) Permalink

?

it is a horror movie. maybe theres 2 w/the same name or something, but this was abt bad things happening on a bout

Rango Unchained (jjjusten), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 18:14 (five years ago) Permalink

man my ballot is just embarrassingly m.o.r.

Mine's in progress, but it's looking pretty much like this will be the case for me, too. I wish I could vote anonymously. Eric, are you judging voters?

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 18:23 (five years ago) Permalink

Not at all. My own ballot is probably apt to strike a few participants here as ... well, whatever the horror movie equivalent of Biskand is. I think all of my top 5 are American horror movies 1968-1979. Can't help it.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 18:34 (five years ago) Permalink

dont worry i am working up some totally strange internal rules for my ballot that will make mine a glorious mess

btw on the "hey give this a shot before voting" tip both deadgirl and session 9 are on streaming netflix

Rango Unchained (jjjusten), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 18:53 (five years ago) Permalink

also i just started narrowing down my list and good god this is a fucking nightmare

Rango Unchained (jjjusten), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 18:53 (five years ago) Permalink

Drew down to 100 before making the hard choices.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 18:55 (five years ago) Permalink

Sadly I winnowed down to 6 pages by eliminating what I haven't seen. And expect mine to be pretty MOR as well.

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:08 (five years ago) Permalink

I actively hated Session 9 and I thought it was pretty clearly garbage but then people whose opinions I value told me they liked it. That was surprising.

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:09 (five years ago) Permalink

thought it was pretty great until the end. atmospheric, scary as hell, great soundtrack, decent performances - all undone by a predictable and heavy-handed conclusion.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:12 (five years ago) Permalink

I liked Session 9 but I think it's going to get cut from my ballot.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:29 (five years ago) Permalink

as I generally don't like gore or the '70s, I will be filling in your dead zones.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:31 (five years ago) Permalink

I openly welcome your ballot.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:45 (five years ago) Permalink

well shit even with my wacky rules i still have 88 left, plus a bunch of stuff i feel terrible about excluding

Badu and a sax run hand-in-hand (jjjusten), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:51 (five years ago) Permalink

and i have a bunch of stuff lined up to watch before voting that i havent seen

arrghhhhh

Badu and a sax run hand-in-hand (jjjusten), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:52 (five years ago) Permalink

^ same here, have threads and marebito ready to go for tonight. can't imagine that threads will make the cut, as "horrific" does not = "horror" in my book, but who knows?

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:53 (five years ago) Permalink

fyi I have reversed my decision and will not be putting screaming racist cake on my ballot

HE HATES THESE CANS (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:59 (five years ago) Permalink

btw on the "hey give this a shot before voting" tip both deadgirl and session 9 are on streaming netflix

heartily second the deadgirl recommendation. very well done, but not for the squeamish. will prolly end up somewhere on my ballot?

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:08 (five years ago) Permalink

did not much care for deadgirl but maybe i need to (ugh) rescreen

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:25 (five years ago) Permalink

mostly i find myself wanting to rewatch films on my ballot i havent seen in ages

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:26 (five years ago) Permalink

henry: poask you fucked my shit up at age 12. will you still do so at age 34? etc etc.

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:27 (five years ago) Permalink

my votig strategy turned out to be some lame (but apt given the subject) what had the most impact on first seeing and maybe thereafter thing

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:28 (five years ago) Permalink

btw i will prob give anything that is on streaming a shot if people want to pimp particular movies. i would say the same thing about netflix but my queue is sitting somewhere around 500 already so that way lies madness. if anyone knows an easy way to get a hold of noroi: the curse that is one that i desperately want to see before voting but netflix doesnt even have it on disc so angryface

Badu and a sax run hand-in-hand (jjjusten), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:29 (five years ago) Permalink

That's a pretty good strategy, actually. xp

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:30 (five years ago) Permalink

not sure how to get ahold of noroi, jjj. i, uh, cataracted it.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:32 (five years ago) Permalink

would also like to rep for messiah of evil - had never even heard of it until it got some votes n love in darin's 1973 poll. at a historical midway point between carnival of souls and suspiria, it brings to mind the former's horror-in-everyday-life and the latter's color scheme and shot composition. while I wouldn't put it on the same level as those two, it's worthwhile if you dig slow-paced creepy arty horror flicks from the 70s. I know I do.

FUN FACT: walter hill plays the guy who gets killed in the first scene.

WARNING: don't watch the version on youtube. it has a goofy alternate soundtrack, and it's cropped which really impacts one of the film's strong points, those great 'scope setups.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/moe_1.png
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/moe_2.png
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/moe_3.png
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/moe_4.png
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/moe_5.png

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:33 (five years ago) Permalink

also just noticed that entrails of a virgin is on the nominations list. slay classy, ilx ;)

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:33 (five years ago) Permalink

dang, that looks nice, edIII. big pix tho.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:34 (five years ago) Permalink

I like big pix and I cannot lie

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:35 (five years ago) Permalink

fyi I have reversed my decision and will not be putting screaming racist cake on my ballot

I don't think this joke is getting the credit it deserves.

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:35 (five years ago) Permalink

'Messiah Of Evil' is fucking great, especially when Albino Jandek dude asks his passenger 'Do you like...Wagner?' (Wagner prounced like Robert Wagner, not Richard Wagner). Love.

Cragenham Craig (Craigo Boingo), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:37 (five years ago) Permalink

^ yeah I love that bit

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:38 (five years ago) Permalink

Craig stole my post.

emil.y, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:46 (five years ago) Permalink

Just wanted to mention that the wonderfully-named Twitch of the Death Nerve is A) great, and B) perhaps better known today as Bay of Blood (original Italian title, Reazione a Catena). It's a 1971 film by Mario Bava that's sometimes credited with kicking off the "body count" or slasher sub-genre. Clever, suspenseful and funny, with excellent gore effects by Carlo Rambaldi. Recommended to fans of Argento, Bava, De Palma and bloody mystery thrillers in general.

http://bt.eutorrents.com/imagehost/images/reaziohmh.jpg

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:57 (five years ago) Permalink

Huge influence on Friday The 13th. I like it a lot but it missed my ballot in the end. Still went with lots of Bava though.

Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:07 (five years ago) Permalink

First pass got it down to 90 movies or so. Suspect that getting it to the core 50 won't be hard at all. The problem I'm having (or rather the regret I expect to have) is that there are so many all-time classics that I absolutely have to vote for that there won't be much room on my ballot for oddball personal choices and dark horse contenders.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:57 (five years ago) Permalink

More than anything else this whole thing is a very welcomed opportunity to actually watch all that heavily recommended and eagerly anticipated stuff that keeps piling up for years. Still unwatched, waiting beside me and literally ready to be popped in at any second:
Angel Heart (1987)
Apaches
Brood, The (1979)
Calvaire
Images
Marebito
Night of the Hunter, The
Onibaba
Possession (1981)
Repulsion (1965)
Session 9
Short Night Of Glass Dolls, The
Shout, The (1978)
Them/Ils (2006)
Threads

Now if I just had an evening on my own that would last approx 20 consecutive hours.

the europan nikon is here (grauschleier), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:58 (five years ago) Permalink

These are essential:

Onibaba
Possession (1981)
Repulsion (1965)
Threads

I really need to see Night of the Hunter, but I honestly don't think I'm going to get around to it before the end of the poll.

emil.y, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 22:07 (five years ago) Permalink

As for coaxing people in watching films that may or may not change their life to the better: If you don't have to already, maybe make sure to get hold of Spoorloos (for the ending), Messiah of Evil (for the beautiful set design of the beach house), Hausu (for the sheer spectacle and inventiveness) and Pulse/Kairo.

the europan nikon is here (grauschleier), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 22:07 (five years ago) Permalink

If I find the time, a Possession/Threads double feature will get the ball rolling in a promising manner, me thinks.

the europan nikon is here (grauschleier), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 22:10 (five years ago) Permalink

Angel Heart (1987)
Apaches
Brood, The (1979)
Calvaire
Images
Marebito
Night of the Hunter, The
Onibaba
Possession (1981)
Repulsion (1965)
Session 9
Short Night Of Glass Dolls, The
Shout, The (1978)
Them/Ils (2006)
Threads

great list. i'd be surprised if you didn't come out with 5 or 6 new favorites. would add night of the hunter, the brood and calvaire to those upped by emil.y. need to see the shout myself.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 22:14 (five years ago) Permalink

And watch Apaches too if only cause it only takes a half hour.

Look at how funky he is! (jer.fairall), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 22:25 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm torn on voting for Night of the Hunter. It's one of my favorite movies of all time and would go in the top 5 of any all time movie list for me, but I never considered it a horror film. I can certainly see it, but it has never resonated for me in that particular way.

Jeff, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 22:29 (five years ago) Permalink

^^^

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 22:50 (five years ago) Permalink

i'm gonna wind up voting for it, but it definitely rides the edge for me, more than almost anything else that'll be a gray area on my ballot.

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 23:10 (five years ago) Permalink

Oh damn didn't even see it on there. Add about 49 points to the final tally.

Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 23:14 (five years ago) Permalink

night of the hunter is clearly a borderline case, but it exemplifies much of what i want out of a horror movie: it's inventive, dreamlike, wildly stylized, lushly atmospheric, and suffused with a particularly voluptuous sort of dread. this is what i want more of in horror. what i want less of are the things i expect i'll find in threads: harrowingly realistic depictions of human suffering. what night of the hunter lacks are supernatural elements, jump scares and a clear relationship with horror as an established genre, but that's okay with me. i see it as a forerunner of lynch, and lynch is easily my single favorite horror filmmaker.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 23:17 (five years ago) Permalink

It also looks back, I think, to some of the dreamlike qualities of the earliest horror films. The amazing scene in the kids' bedroom when Mitchum's shadow is thrown on the wall reminds me of Caligari, other shots remind me of Whale's Frankenstein, etc. I voted for it.

clemenza, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 23:20 (five years ago) Permalink

I think rewatching that clip convinced me that I should vote for Night of the Hunter in every poll, genre be damned.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 23:24 (five years ago) Permalink

The first time I saw it and she says, "It's a hard world for little things" I might have cheered, that scene is just that good.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 23:25 (five years ago) Permalink

it is the best movie

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 23:33 (five years ago) Permalink

It also looks back, I think, to some of the dreamlike qualities of the earliest horror films. The amazing scene in the kids' bedroom when Mitchum's shadow is thrown on the wall reminds me of Caligari, other shots remind me of Whale's Frankenstein, etc.

OTM

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 23:34 (five years ago) Permalink

and yeah, that does give it a "clear relationship with horror as an established genre"

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 23:35 (five years ago) Permalink

i'd put night of the hunter on the horror film side of the ledger b/c it contains so many essential elements of that genre -- an evil, almost supernatural villain (Mitchum); atmospheric mise-en-scene; scared little children running in legitimate fear of their lives; a magic talisman of sorts (the little doll!).

i have a harder time w/ stuff like 3 women or straw dogs as horror.

a big fat fucking fat guy in a barrel what could be better? (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 23:37 (five years ago) Permalink

my current poll dilemna is which one of the 2 robert aldrich/bette davis-as-crazy-old-biddy films to include on my ballot ... to wit, whatever happened to baby jane? or hush ... hush, sweet charlotte. my inclination is to vote for both -- and both are worthy and given you LOL philistines mine may be the only votes that either gets -- but including both is a bit excessive.

a big fat fucking fat guy in a barrel what could be better? (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 23:40 (five years ago) Permalink

I went through first and bolded my no-question absolute mortal locks and came away with 28, which leaves me 22 slots to play with. And gives me opportunity to watch a few things before I send in my ballot.

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 23:48 (five years ago) Permalink

btw Eric are you doing stills, or do you have someone doing them for you?

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 23:49 (five years ago) Permalink

i called dibs on doing the stills, but if any of you have any nice screengrabs you'd like to have included, plz feel free to email them to s t g e r t z @gmail

picture jean rollin (Pillbox), Thursday, 19 April 2012 01:03 (five years ago) Permalink

Lol Apaches.

I can understand every 3rd word these kids are saying. So far the dialog doesn't seem too necessary for understanding what leads to each incident.

Wot in Christ's name are they saying, though??

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Thursday, 19 April 2012 01:23 (five years ago) Permalink

Except for the inter-mortality parts, and WTF @ those?

LOL the kiddies' American accents are amazing!

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Thursday, 19 April 2012 01:26 (five years ago) Permalink

got it down to 57 on a second pass. gonna be tough from here on out, specially cuz i got a bunch of stuff to watch before ranking and submitting.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 01:35 (five years ago) Permalink

You all convinced me to vote for NotH. I hope you're happy.

Jeff, Thursday, 19 April 2012 01:38 (five years ago) Permalink

I can't believe Audrey Rose didn't get nominated.

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Thursday, 19 April 2012 01:46 (five years ago) Permalink

The nomination's list looks great! Can't think of anything that should be there but isn't. Reading this thread, however, has made me feel like I have missed a lot essential films. Can someone recommend a few (5 or so) titles that more on the side of eerie, spooky sets/soundtracks (rather than "jump scares")? I'm thinking of stuff like Kairo, perhaps or the videos from the ring movies (obv. I have seen both of these).

daavid, Thursday, 19 April 2012 01:47 (five years ago) Permalink

Kwaidan
Onibaba
The Cremator
Valerie And Her Week Of Wonders
Martin

could be that kind of thing I guess, although most of those are borderline horror.

O00O0O00O (Matt #2), Thursday, 19 April 2012 02:20 (five years ago) Permalink

you could try 'cure', also by kiyoshi kurosawa, which relies heavily on low frequency drones and ominous wind sounds for atmosphere. same goes for 'eraserhead', but you probably knew that.

, Thursday, 19 April 2012 02:25 (five years ago) Permalink

I can't believe Audrey Rose didn't get nominated.

Before I rewatched it a couple of years ago I probably would have nominated and voted for it purely on personal impact. My mom and I watched that when I was a youngin' and to this day we still whisper "Is she Ivy Templeton… or AUDREY ROSE?" at each other and mime burning our hands on cold window glass. But you know what? That movie is boring.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Thursday, 19 April 2012 02:28 (five years ago) Permalink

xpost

RANDOM THOUGHT, AFTER ANOTHER GLANCE AT THIS POLL:

Who'd be keen on a poll on God Told Me To vs. Cure?

"Fourvel - it's like Fievel, but one less." (R Baez), Thursday, 19 April 2012 02:33 (five years ago) Permalink

xxpost- Thanks ☆ and Matt. Yes, Eraserhead is the perfect example!

daavid, Thursday, 19 April 2012 02:55 (five years ago) Permalink

But you know what? That movie is boring.

POSSIBLE SPOILER I can't believe at what's his name's trial his defense is based on selling the jury on reincarnation. That lecture on Hinduism ran a little long. The whole trial drags on waaay too long. There are a few creepy parts and I like the actor who played Ivy/Audrey. Anyway, yeh, it's fairly boring.

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Thursday, 19 April 2012 03:25 (five years ago) Permalink

okay, so i watched apaches earlier this evening. lol is all i can say. won't make my ballot, but i did enjoy it.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 06:28 (five years ago) Permalink

i see your apaches british people, and i raise you the wonders of american drivers ed films (machanized death, red asphalt, etc.)

Badu and a sax run hand-in-hand (jjjusten), Thursday, 19 April 2012 07:16 (five years ago) Permalink

this is not an endorsement, do not watch these, unless you are looking to vote for faces of death and then fill out the rest of your ballot

Badu and a sax run hand-in-hand (jjjusten), Thursday, 19 April 2012 07:16 (five years ago) Permalink

Whittling it down to 50 was so painful I've made a list of 51-100 too, just to calm myself down.

O00O0O00O (Matt #2), Thursday, 19 April 2012 09:09 (five years ago) Permalink

i called dibs on doing the stills, but if any of you have any nice screengrabs you'd like to have included, plz feel free to email them to s t g e r t z @gmail
― picture jean rollin (Pillbox), Wednesday, April 18, 2012 8:03 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes. I am eternally grateful too, btw.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 19 April 2012 14:31 (five years ago) Permalink

Obviously this is Eric's and Pillbox's call, but my own feeling on stills: atmospheric/moody rather than bloody corpses/exploding heads. I know many would strongly disagree.

clemenza, Thursday, 19 April 2012 14:45 (five years ago) Permalink

atmospheric/moody would keep things unambiguously SFW, for those for whom that's a consideration

an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Thursday, 19 April 2012 15:06 (five years ago) Permalink

(although I'm not sure atmospheric/moody would capture what people were attracted to with movies like "Dead/Alive")

an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Thursday, 19 April 2012 15:07 (five years ago) Permalink

It is possible to like more than one style within a genre. I consider Dead/Alive more of a comedy, but might put it in the 40s if I get that far.

That some of you you are sufficiently immersed to make an individual list of 100 top horror films might give you an idea of my emotions during the comedy poll, when ppl were throwing their votes together in 15 minutes.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 April 2012 15:14 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm not pissed off at the people who are throwing their horror movie ballots together in 15 minutes. I'm happy they feel enthusiastic enough to contribute to a horror movie poll.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 19 April 2012 15:19 (five years ago) Permalink

sure, but Matt #2 may feel differently.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 April 2012 15:20 (five years ago) Permalink

I am struggling with my ballot, probably largely because of the many movies I know I liked but that I don't remember very well. I would like to rewatch some things, especially Anguish, Night of the Demon/Curse of the Demon, Hush...Hush, Sweet Charlotte, and Dementia/Daughter of Horror, but also Black Cat, Blood on Satan's Claw, Burn Witch Burn, Kill Baby Kill, God Told Me To and others.

I think I nominated the 1926 Student of Prague but really meant the 1913 version.

I watched Apaches last night.

Sadly, netflix seems to have neither Threads nor Testament on dvd (I don't have streaming). Not that I would probably vote for them here anyway but after what people have been saying I would really like to see them.

MrDasher, Thursday, 19 April 2012 15:26 (five years ago) Permalink

Link posted upthread by strongo - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2023790698427111488

improvised explosive advice (WmC), Thursday, 19 April 2012 15:37 (five years ago) Permalink

(Threads)

improvised explosive advice (WmC), Thursday, 19 April 2012 15:37 (five years ago) Permalink

I saw Testament on PBS when it was new. It was OK; it's not horror. It's not "top" material list, except maybe Top Jane Alexander Films.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 April 2012 15:39 (five years ago) Permalink

She sorta vanished after becoming SAG prez, no?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 April 2012 15:43 (five years ago) Permalink

my first pass has 123 movies, yikes. time to get out the scissors. and the butcher's knife. and the axe. and the scythe. and the chainsaw.

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 19 April 2012 15:46 (five years ago) Permalink

Jane does tons of theatre, always has. You remember theatre, tha thing nobody goes to.

xp

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 April 2012 15:49 (five years ago) Permalink

I only meant movies since that's the poll; she's a Living Legend onstage.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 April 2012 15:50 (five years ago) Permalink

Jane Alexander missed her window of opportunity to be the next Linnea Quigley.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 19 April 2012 15:51 (five years ago) Permalink

Taking my time. I appreciate a slow heart sinking reveal as much as a quick scream out loud scare.

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 April 2012 15:52 (five years ago) Permalink

I also regret not participating in the nomination stage :(

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 April 2012 15:52 (five years ago) Permalink

Will survive

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 April 2012 15:52 (five years ago) Permalink

what would you have nommed that isnt there? i could be convinced to do some write-ins (although its not like i need more movies on my shortlist but whatever)

Badu and a sax run hand-in-hand (jjjusten), Thursday, 19 April 2012 15:54 (five years ago) Permalink

no wicker man 2

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 19 April 2012 15:54 (five years ago) Permalink

haha i still haven't seen cowboys for jesus!! can you believe that?

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 April 2012 15:56 (five years ago) Permalink

anyway let me collect my thoughts (i am enlisting a lurker as well) and will post when i have a list

for instance, is whoever slew auntie roo? on there?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvLdTFQ9RGU

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 April 2012 15:56 (five years ago) Permalink

Shelley Winters plays an eccentric widow who loves her children to death. A modern retelling of the Hansel and Gretel story.

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 April 2012 15:57 (five years ago) Permalink

I had a list of around 15 films I was about to nom when the voting opened

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:00 (five years ago) Permalink

That reminds me of the existence of What's the Matter with Helen? Not that I remember if it's good or not but I think it's in the same vein?
There were actually a number of things I was thinking of nominating but didn't for some reason or another. Some of them got nominated but other people, some didn't.

MrDasher, Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:01 (five years ago) Permalink

the only thing on the missing list I thought I would've voted for was burnt offerings, but looking at my ballot now it didn't have a chance tbh

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:03 (five years ago) Permalink

What's the Matter with Helen?

B- psychobiddy

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:04 (five years ago) Permalink

I have this at home but haven't watched either one.

http://content9.flixster.com/movie/11/12/36/11123615_det.jpg

clemenza, Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:05 (five years ago) Permalink

Hag horror! I love it.

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:05 (five years ago) Permalink

Was going to mention What's the Matter with Helen next!!! I think it's better than Auntie Roo by a pretty wide margin.

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:06 (five years ago) Permalink

Neither are as good as Baby Jane -- not even Charlotte -- but for color + splashy + crazy old ladies, you can't go wrong with Helen or Roo.

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:07 (five years ago) Permalink

and don't forget mark lester as a murdering preteen sociopath in night hair child, possibly the best name for a film ever

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:08 (five years ago) Permalink

Which is a good time to mention a dreadful TV movie that scared me silly in the early '70s: The Devil's Daughter, with Shelly in the Ruth Gordon role.

http://cdn100.iofferphoto.com/img3/item/383/583/548/the-devil-s-daughter-1973-dvd-shelley-winters-rare-d916a.jpg

Abe Vigoda!

clemenza, Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:09 (five years ago) Permalink

Watched Marebito last night on jjjusten's recommendation. It's a low-budget Japanese horror film by Takashi Shimizu, director of both the Japanese and American vesions of Ju-On/The Grudge, and starring Shin'ya Tsukamoto, director of Tetsuo, the Iron Man and its sequels. Pretty great! I don't know that it's a masterpiece, but it reminded me a lot of Kiyoshi Kurosawa films like Cure and Pulse, spliced together with Tsukamoto's punk experimentalism, Shimizu's finely-honed creepiness, and lots of nods to Lovecraftian pulp horror. Dreamlike, strange and quite unpredictable.

http://i2.listal.com/image/1122254/600full-marebito-screenshot.jpg

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:17 (five years ago) Permalink

Holy shit, must see The Devil's Daughter!!

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:20 (five years ago) Permalink

I was pleased that Watcher in the Woods was on there. It was My First Horror Movie!

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:21 (five years ago) Permalink

xxp - The international title, A Stranger from Afar, gives a pretty good idea of the film's themes and tone, plus sounds very much like something Lovecraft or one of his contemporaries might have written.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:22 (five years ago) Permalink

watched Repulsion (finally) last night. awesome. was this controversial/a big deal when it was released? It seems several steps beyond Psycho, which was just a few years earlier.

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:23 (five years ago) Permalink

I was pleased that Watcher in the Woods was on there. It was My First Horror Movie!.

yeah, I nommed it cuz it was one of my first, too. loved it at the time, though i haven't seen it in forever.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:24 (five years ago) Permalink

LL, The Pit is on the nomination list and a certain person you live with wasn't even involved in the process.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:24 (five years ago) Permalink

See, I knew you all would take care of me.

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:25 (five years ago) Permalink

Another film I really want to go to bat for here is Dementia, aka Daughter of Horror. One of the most remarkable films I've ever seen, an hour-long, dialogue-free, first-person Freudian head trip from 1955 that follows a frightened and disturbed young woman down a rabbit hole of her own making. It's similar in many ways to Polanski's Repulsion, dealing as it does with sexual psychosis, and also to the films of David Lynch, especially Mulholland Dr. and Inland Empire. It's hard to believe, in fact, that Lynch and Polanski didn't crib heavily from it. The soundtrack is gorgeous, and the stylized, deliberately artificial imagery recalls German expressionist filmmakers like Weine and Murnau. It's scary, brave, campy, arguably feminist and deliriously surreal. Hard to believe that it was made five years before Hitchcock's Psycho. Would make my top 10 list even if this poll wasn't limited to horror films.

Advertising:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_myX5Q4qMDhY/SlTzeTEHitI/AAAAAAAACdY/k3U3APjH1ls/s400/dementiatitle+copy.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_qDiXNzuPtUA/TEkE80BIVrI/AAAAAAAABnk/Na7VZcPN4zw/s400/dementia-01.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_myX5Q4qMDhY/SlTzeGSEMJI/AAAAAAAACdI/bkrcoD8KkTU/s400/dementia2+copy.jpg

http://s3.amazonaws.com/auteurs_production/images/film/dementia/w448/dementia.jpg?1289451447

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_myX5Q4qMDhY/SlX_C1zOw9I/AAAAAAAACd4/DsZSMu9mjA8/s400/Dementia2ffff.jpg

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:56 (five years ago) Permalink

holy crap will watch!

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:58 (five years ago) Permalink

wow great stills

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:58 (five years ago) Permalink

thx

not quite horror but I would recommend Suddenly Last Summer for the atmosphere/sense of terror as well

Chris S, Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:59 (five years ago) Permalink

one of the charms of marebito is that shimizu shot it in 8 days and basically was using it as a palate cleanser between ju-on and the usa grudge, which obv doesnt add merit to the film inherently but does make the result kind of amazing. it def doesnt feel like a speed run film at all.

Badu and a sax run hand-in-hand (jjjusten), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:05 (five years ago) Permalink

Re Watcher in the Woods, it was an earlyish scary movie for me, too -- I guess I was 10 or so. Remember it being spooky but not much else about it. The movie that did scare the living hell out of me at that age (or maybe a year earlier?) was the Body Snatchers remake, which is definitely going on my ballot. I think I literally didn't sleep for a few nights afterward. (Actually, the original Body Snatchers might make the ballot, too.)

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:10 (five years ago) Permalink

I still feel the terror when I see Mitch McConnell

http://images.politico.com/global/news/100913_mitch_mcconnell_ap_328.jpg

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:11 (five years ago) Permalink

Dementia / Daughter Of Horror seconded, the DVD I have actually has 2 versions, one with narration and one (the original I think) without.

Weird retro art horror fans, check out Jigoku! It's very strange.

http://nicolasheller.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/jigoku-screenshot-15.jpg
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDReviews24/a%20jigoku%20criterion%20dvd/a%20jogoku%20JIGOKU-19.jpg
http://subwaycinemanews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Jigoku1-759562.jpg

O00O0O00O (Matt #2), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:16 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah jigoku is rad. dementia's been on my to-watch list for years.

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:19 (five years ago) Permalink

putting together my ballot is reconfirming my love of downbeat 70s b-movies: let's scare jessica to death, shock waves, shivers, homebodies, lemora, messiah of evil, deathdream, the other. try to creep me out while employing glacial pacing, a burbling electronic score, and lots of film grain, apparently I will love you forever.

in some weird way I consider the evil dead to be part of this tradition except everything's turned up to 11.

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:38 (five years ago) Permalink

one of the charms of marebito is that shimizu shot it in 8 days and basically was using it as a palate cleanser between ju-on and the usa grudge, which obv doesnt add merit to the film inherently but does make the result kind of amazing. it def doesnt feel like a speed run film at all.

― Badu and a sax run hand-in-hand (jjjusten), Thursday, April 19, 2012 10:05 AM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It does and doesn't, imo. I'm not surprised that it was shot in a hurry, but it never feels rushed or thrown together. It often has a distinctly improvisational feel, like I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Shimizu just told Tsuakamoto to react silently to situations and characters about which he knew little in advance. I love how fragmentary and loosely connected it all is, though nothing feels unfinished or unanswered in the end.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:45 (five years ago) Permalink

Obviously this is Eric's and Pillbox's call, but my own feeling on stills: atmospheric/moody rather than bloody corpses/exploding heads. I know many would strongly disagree.

― clemenza, Thursday, April 19, 2012 3:45 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't know, I think the stills should either be representative or intriguing images, and I imagine there'll be a fair few placers that would need bloody corpses/exploding heads to fulfil the 'representative requirement'.

Also, crap, Dementia is going on my to-watch list.

emil.y, Thursday, 19 April 2012 18:04 (five years ago) Permalink

I want to strongly campaign for 964 Pinocchio but I know next to no one has seen it :'(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SHlSJIw99o

Time, a group with Jam and Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 19 April 2012 18:13 (five years ago) Permalink

Also am ashamed w/ how many films on this list I haven't even seen (Jigoku, Kwaidan, Onibaba, The Thing, Phantasm, etc...)

Time, a group with Jam and Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 19 April 2012 18:14 (five years ago) Permalink

more ppl have seen pinocchio 764 than you think, ilxors have repped for it before. don't think rubber's lover was nommed.

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 19 April 2012 18:40 (five years ago) Permalink

Wd also rep for Lord of Illusions but everyone seems to hate that one too

Time, a group with Jam and Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 19 April 2012 18:45 (five years ago) Permalink

I like 964 Pinocchio and Rubber's Lover quite a bit, but probably not enough to push either into my top 50. Would like to see the former again, as it's been at least 15 years.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 18:47 (five years ago) Permalink

Hey, for anyone curious about Dementia but unable to a hold of a proper copy (it's available through Netflix), it can be viewed in criminally low quality on YouTube. Not recommended, but might do in a pinch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMeSo_4aIBU

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 18:50 (five years ago) Permalink

Stevie D, you must see Kwaidan.... it is available in a beautiful Criterion edition. AND Eric hates it!

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:00 (five years ago) Permalink

I like onibaba more than kwaidan... but I would

surprised ugetsu wasn't nommed tho maybe that's more fantasy than horror? been a long time since I've seen it and don't remember much about it.

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:07 (five years ago) Permalink

Not a big Kwaidan fan. Lovely but rather inert, imo.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:09 (five years ago) Permalink

According to DVDBeaver the Criterion DVD has fucked-up colors and 20 minutes of missing footage :(

Time, a group with Jam and Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:09 (five years ago) Permalink

Not enough missing imo. (just kidding. I don't hate that movie. I just think its no ugetsu. Or creepshow.)

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:19 (five years ago) Permalink

Creepshow otm

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:19 (five years ago) Permalink

Yes, inert is a good word.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:20 (five years ago) Permalink

I LOVE Ugetsu-it is one of my favorite movies-but it never would have occured to me to nominate it in a horror poll.

MrDasher, Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:22 (five years ago) Permalink

re Kwaidan:

•A 163 minute version is now available on Region 1 DVD as a part of the Criterion Collection. The (Region 2) Masters of Cinema DVD is the first video release to contain the full 183 minutes of the original Japanese cut of the film.

•Originally a four-episode anthology released in Japan at 183 minutes. The USA version removes the second episode, starring Keiko Kishi and Tatsuya Nakadai, in order to shorten the running time to 125 minutes.

So really, at the time the CC was released I guess they couldn't get their hands on the original material. It was enough that they restored the fourth episode that had been completely excised from the US release.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:23 (five years ago) Permalink

well Ugetsu is nominally a ghost story, like The Uninvited.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:24 (five years ago) Permalink

From what I remember, Ugetsu was mildly freakier than Kwaidan.

But I'll stop, since it's bad manners for the poll host to engage in politicking.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:28 (five years ago) Permalink

A ghost story may or may not be horror, I would say.

I never found Ugetsu horrifying or freaky, maybe in part because I identify with the ghost.

MrDasher, Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:37 (five years ago) Permalink

Just previewed the first couple minutes of "Dementia." Wow, that does look amazing. Soprano in the credits music is Marni Nixon!

Advanced Uncle Meat recovery system (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:40 (five years ago) Permalink

Not that you can't be horrified while identifying with the source of horror...or even because you identify with the source of horror...
(xpost)

MrDasher, Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:41 (five years ago) Permalink

I don't think netflix has Dementia on disc does it? I really don't want to watch it on youtube. I think the half hour, public service film Apaches is about as far as I'm willing to go down that route.

MrDasher, Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:47 (five years ago) Permalink

Have been thinking about the relationship of "ghost story" to "horror" ever since I first saw The Devil's Backbone (which I will be seriously voting for, btw). It's in many respects a straight drama, and the ghost is more a figure of sympathetic pity than fear, but I nonetheless consider it one of the best horror movies of the last decade or so. The combination of supernatural elements, gothic atmosphere, creepy suspense and occasional jolts of real terror are enough to convince me that it belongs on my ballot.

The ghost story is one of the most basic and essential "scary story" models, and tbh, I'm inclined to consider almost any at least moderately creepy movie featuring ghosts part of the horror genre.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:49 (five years ago) Permalink

I don't think netflix has Dementia on disc does it? I really don't want to watch it on youtube. I think the half hour, public service film Apaches is about as far as I'm willing to go down that route.

It had copies of the Kino edition a few years back. Haven't checked recently. And yeah, it's gonna suffer for the low tube quality a lot more than Apaches.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:51 (five years ago) Permalink

there are plenty of movies with ghosts I wouldn't consider horror, anything from ghost to fanny and alexander

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:58 (five years ago) Permalink

harry potter

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:58 (five years ago) Permalink

etc

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:58 (five years ago) Permalink

Speaking of things that are on youtube in fairly poor quality, I would like to rep once more for The Signalman. It's a 40-minute film, so possibly bearable in this format, but I haven't watched it through myself. Almost certainly my favourite Ghost Story for Christmas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmBkK7N3Hhc

emil.y, Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:59 (five years ago) Permalink

I think "fantasy" is a suitable label for non-horror films featuring ghosts

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:59 (five years ago) Permalink

there are plenty of movies with ghosts I wouldn't consider horror, anything from ghost to fanny and alexander

...harry potter

yeah, that's why i threw in "almost" and "moderately creepy" as qualifiers. like if creepiness and scariness seems to be a substantial part of the point, and if it's got non-comedy ghosts, then i'll probably a horror movie. of course it's arguable that creepiness and scariness are "a substantial part of the point" in the later harry potter films, so it's a judgement call more than a hard-and-fast rule.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 20:05 (five years ago) Permalink

"seems"

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 20:05 (five years ago) Permalink

ugh

"...then i'll probably consider it a horror movie"

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 20:06 (five years ago) Permalink

I did cut Pan's Labyrinth cuz it feels more like "dark fantasy" than horror to me, so the distinction I'm observing is obviously vanishingly thin.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 20:11 (five years ago) Permalink

Courtesy of my lurker, these movies were ;_; missing from the nom list (I take responsibility for not participating, just answering the question from like a zillion posts ago)

Wicked, Wicked
I Can See You
From a Whisper to a Scream
Just Before Dawn
Who Can Kill a Child?
Wendigo

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 April 2012 20:12 (five years ago) Permalink

never seen any of those, and three of the first four are completely unfamiliar to me. i'm curious, though.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 20:17 (five years ago) Permalink

Ugetsu, along with a few things on the nomination list that I also excluded because I don't really consider them horror, would probably, if I were to include them, displace items in my current top 5-10. I would probably be more willing to consider them if they would occupy lower positions. I guess I don't want to have my top horror movies to be things I don't strongly feel are horror. But I will think about it some more.
The stuff that is at the top of my list is not all stuff that is unambiguously considered horror either so I am also not sure what distinction I am using exactly. It's just intuitive I suppose.

MrDasher, Thursday, 19 April 2012 20:21 (five years ago) Permalink

ok who can kill a child? is a big oversight. crap.

Badu and a sax run hand-in-hand (jjjusten), Thursday, 19 April 2012 20:22 (five years ago) Permalink

Who Can Kill a Child?

Damn it! That's such a good film and totally didn't occur to me.

Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Thursday, 19 April 2012 20:22 (five years ago) Permalink

Also missing, and not really obscure at all: Dementia 13.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 19 April 2012 20:22 (five years ago) Permalink

^ was on my late nom list

wendigo's the fessenden film? I did nom his habit but I doubt it will make my ballot.

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 19 April 2012 20:24 (five years ago) Permalink

I thought of Who Can Kill a Child? but I didn't nominate it because I don't really like it. I guess I should have nominated it anyway. Oh well.

MrDasher, Thursday, 19 April 2012 20:26 (five years ago) Permalink

I stopped compiling this list once the voting thread opened, but I would've nommed these in addition to some ones already mentioned above

awakening of the beast (1970)
baby blood (1990)
willard (1971)
beware! the blob (1972)
body snatchers (1993)
castle of blood aka danza macabra (1964)
children of the damned (1964)
crawlspace (1986)
curse of frankenstein, the (1957)
dracula aka horror of dracula (1958)
frakenstein created woman (1967)
revenge of frankenstein, the (1958)

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 19 April 2012 20:26 (five years ago) Permalink

Children of the Damned is the only of the not-nominees mentioned so far that I'd have seriously considered, but I would have wound up cutting it anyway. I've avoided Who Can Kill a Child? because it doesn't sound like the sort of thing I'd like. Is it really all that great? Murderous moppets is a great idea, but I figure that Village of the Damned is hard to top on that score.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 20:35 (five years ago) Permalink

The Curse of Frankenstein is nominated, isn't it?
I could have sworn Castle of Blood was as well, but it doesn't seem to be on the list upthread. Odd.

MrDasher, Thursday, 19 April 2012 20:39 (five years ago) Permalink

Who Can Kill a Child gets extra points for being a super grim movie in a really pretty setting, so that is something I like about it.

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 April 2012 20:41 (five years ago) Permalink

It's really, really good. Quite different to Village Of The Damned - less of a sci-fi element.

Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Thursday, 19 April 2012 20:47 (five years ago) Permalink

what i mostly hear is that it is "disturbing"

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 20:53 (five years ago) Permalink

when it comes to 21st century horror fandom, i find that "disturbing" is generally code for "do not watch this"

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 20:53 (five years ago) Permalink

that a hard line to toe

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 19 April 2012 20:56 (five years ago) Permalink

Any film in which children kill and are killed is going to be a struggle for some people but it's not gratuitously shocking for the sake of it.

Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Thursday, 19 April 2012 20:57 (five years ago) Permalink

No, and when people can't stretch their imaginations enough to include the possibility of an island of evil children, I'm not sure I care what they think anyway.

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 April 2012 20:59 (five years ago) Permalink

contenderizer, you liked shankland's the children didn't you?

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 19 April 2012 21:02 (five years ago) Permalink

Any film in which children kill and are killed is going to be a struggle for some people but it's not gratuitously shocking for the sake of it.

cool. i'm sort of itching to see it now.

as far as the "disturbing" thing goes, i don't mean it as a rule. i just think that the incorporation of super-transgressive, gutter-dwelling exploitation aesthetics into mainstream horror fandom has had a terrible effect on the genre. i mean, i'm a gorehound and a fan of extremes, but i am beyond sick of attempts to find and make "the most disturbing ever". not saying that who can kill a child? belongs in that company, btw, but i have seen it described in similar terms.

i hate to say this, but i think that horror, when taken as a form of pop-cultural entertainment, is inherently trivializing, inherently desensitizing. there's nothing really wrong with that, but i don't like the fact that films like salo and a serbian film have become an important part of pop horror's fan culture. personal taste, you understand.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 21:11 (five years ago) Permalink

contenderizer, you liked shankland's the children didn't you?

oh hell yeah! great movie. i'm not opposed to child-harm in films, and not opposed to grim and distressing content. i've just learned to be wary.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 21:12 (five years ago) Permalink

I just wanna quickly stump for Images, which is probably Robert Altman's most overlooked film (like, I've literally never heard/seen anyone talk about it ever). It probably would've been another director's greatest film, but Altman had the poor judgment to make it in the midst of making some of the best movies ever, so it was a bit overshadowed. It's very much of a kind with Polanski and Lynch's "am I losing my mind?" films (although much more subdued), and it's really gorgeous to look at. And you can apparently watch the whole thing on YouTube.

Harried Ice Craw (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 20 April 2012 02:11 (five years ago) Permalink

as far as the "disturbing" thing goes, i don't mean it as a rule. i just think that the incorporation of super-transgressive, gutter-dwelling exploitation aesthetics into mainstream horror fandom has had a terrible effect on the genre.

twas always thus in the lifetimes of just about everbody posting in this thread. except maybe the good doctor.

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 20 April 2012 02:17 (five years ago) Permalink

i do think the search for "extremes" can easily lead to freebasing terrible torture gore nonsense in the horror fandom crackhouse. but i dunno if i want a horror movie to not "disturb" me on some level.

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 20 April 2012 02:20 (five years ago) Permalink

I dunno, I'd say extreme horror has produced more interesting films than the dozens of post-scream ironic bullshit outings

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, 20 April 2012 03:13 (five years ago) Permalink

Shit I just realized I forgot to nom "don't torture a duckling" goddamnit

Oh and also, another Netflix streaming recommendation - despite looking like it is going to be crap due to the box art, you should all really give "dead end" a shot

Badu and a sax run hand-in-hand (jjjusten), Friday, 20 April 2012 03:21 (five years ago) Permalink

twas always thus in the lifetimes of just about everbody posting in this thread. except maybe the good doctor.

― jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, April 19, 2012 7:17 PM (56 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

is that true? maybe i've just been sheltered. seemed to me that this sort of thing went mainstream in the late 90s, when the DVD boom took off, boosted by the increasing access to internet fan communities and later by torrent-based downloading. before that, interest in the really hard stuff seemed the province of a pretty small cult w/in horror fandom. your local "video store" (lol, remember?) might have had the faces of death movies, some herschell gordon lewis titles andi spit on your grave, maybe a bootleg of cannibal holocaust or something, but it's not like most horror fans were even aware of the sleazier european grindhouse fare, 70s porn roughies, or way-out asian extremes. easy access to such stuff and to an online culture dedicated to sickness for its own sake really changed horror fandom, imo, and we've only been seeing the effects for a decade or so. i do like disturbing stuff, but i don't like the culture dedicated disturbing stuff. like i said, it's made me wary of certain films, perhaps unfairly.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Friday, 20 April 2012 04:08 (five years ago) Permalink

i think its true, i knew about faces of death and extreme horror films by hanging out with metal kids and their older brothers, and this was in a small east texas town in the mid90s. before the internet, mail order was huge for people looking.

JacobSanders, Friday, 20 April 2012 04:31 (five years ago) Permalink

I dunno, I'd say extreme horror has produced more interesting films than the dozens of post-scream ironic bullshit outings

― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, April 19, 2012 8:13 PM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i i i have to admit that this is true. the way international horror exploded in the late 90s and early 00s, the fact that every curious fan now has instant access to the whole history of the genre, these are undeniably good things. hell, at good third of the movies i'm considering for my ballot were basically unknown in america until the era of netflix and torrents. i don't know how many of them will actually make it, but still. though they wouldn't ruffle the feathers of the toe tag crowd, a lot of people would probably describe films like audition and trouble every day as "disturbing" and "extreme", and there's a good chance that i'll vote for both. if i hadn't forgotten to nominate baise-moi, i'd likely be voting for for that, too.

i guess i'm just letting my distaste for so-called "torture porn" turn me into a prudish crank. over the last few years, i've often found myself angry about having subjected myself to films that other fans seem to love. i'm still pissed about funny games, eden lake and martyrs. just in the last few weeks, i've watched a bunch of seriously nasty shit out of a sense of obligation to "keep up" with the genre, including a serbian film, kidnapped (which i'd been looking forward to) and the human centipede 2. a decade of nihilistic torment-wallowing has left me with a chip on my shoulder, i guess. maybe the lesson is that i should avoid things i'm almost certain i'll hate.

"maybe" he says...

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Friday, 20 April 2012 04:34 (five years ago) Permalink

I can see yr beef w/ A Serbian Film and torture porn but what did Martyrs ever do to you???

Time, a group with Jam and Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 20 April 2012 04:49 (five years ago) Permalink

bugged me. i don't wanna get into it cuz maybe i was in a mood or something. i will grant that it's an interesting and unusual film and that the editing in the first half made it quite a ride.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Friday, 20 April 2012 05:01 (five years ago) Permalink

more and more i feel like ebert's original straw dogs review (written when he was a good deal younger than i am now). i know it's nagl, but i can't help it.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Friday, 20 April 2012 05:08 (five years ago) Permalink

i will also grant that in retrospect it could be read as extremely misogynistic

Time, a group with Jam and Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 20 April 2012 05:08 (five years ago) Permalink

that's part of it, yeah. though i know that horror films are fictional, i find the experience of watching helpless women brutalized at length a genuinely horrible experience. the more i'm encouraged to sympathize, the greater my distress and anger, especially if things end on a hopeless note. this makes me a very bad audience for certain films.

there are exceptions. though it wasn't perfect, i did like lucky mckee's recent the woman, and it pushed a lot of the buttons that ordinarily repel me.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Friday, 20 April 2012 05:17 (five years ago) Permalink

i've also liked several of lars von trier's "female martyr" pictures, especially breaking the waves. that he manages to achieve the kind of catharsis martyrs can only talk about helps a lot.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Friday, 20 April 2012 05:26 (five years ago) Permalink

^ probably not helping my horror cred

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Friday, 20 April 2012 05:50 (five years ago) Permalink

lvt is such a shit though

Time, a group with Jam and Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 20 April 2012 06:09 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah, he's a handful

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Friday, 20 April 2012 06:14 (five years ago) Permalink

URGENT: ilxors voting in this poll who have not seen the original 1988 Dutch version of The Vanishing (aka Spoorloos) owe it to yourselves to do so before submitting your ballots. Please proceed directly to your Netflix queue & do not look up any info on the film b/c the less you know, the better.

picture jean rollin (Pillbox), Friday, 20 April 2012 11:40 (five years ago) Permalink

i find the experience of watching helpless women brutalized at length a genuinely horrible experience. the more i'm encouraged to sympathize, the greater my distress and anger, especially if things end on a hopeless note. this makes me a very bad audience for certain films.

That's really OTM for me as well. I am also still angry (like, if I think about it, I will get actually angry) about Breaking the Waves.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Friday, 20 April 2012 12:15 (five years ago) Permalink

martyrs seems much more honest about wanting to get to the same place as lvt tbh

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 20 April 2012 12:16 (five years ago) Permalink

like i think if lvt was honest with himself he'd just end with [HORRIBLE ACT REDACTED] to bring his female characters to "enlightenment."

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 20 April 2012 12:17 (five years ago) Permalink

We watched Breaking the Waves like... eleven years ago? and I still remember watching this movie, and being like, well, this woman is a fool but let's see where it all goes, and the end happened and I spent about an hour sobbing on the couch and probably wasn't right again for a couple of days and since then, I've had a strict no LVT policy.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Friday, 20 April 2012 12:22 (five years ago) Permalink

otoh i think contendo *does* have a bit of a point. visitor q and martyrs are probably the only two films that will make my list that i wouldnt recommend to anyone who wouldnt be down with what they're gonna get, and maybe its not coincidental they're both 21c flicks.

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 20 April 2012 12:22 (five years ago) Permalink

Okay I just read the Wikipedia summary for Visitor Q and that is completely batshit.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Friday, 20 April 2012 12:26 (five years ago) Permalink

actually i recommend visitor q to the whole family.

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 20 April 2012 12:27 (five years ago) Permalink

lol

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Friday, 20 April 2012 12:29 (five years ago) Permalink

martyrs seems much more honest about wanting to get to the same place as lvt tbh

otm I think its essential honesty to theme and form is the main reason why Martyrs is more effective than lvt and also seedier genre nasties like Human Centipede and what not.

picture jean rollin (Pillbox), Friday, 20 April 2012 12:31 (five years ago) Permalink

Obviously this is Eric's and Pillbox's call, but my own feeling on stills: atmospheric/moody rather than bloody corpses/exploding heads. I know many would strongly disagree.

― clemenza, Thursday, April 19, 2012 10:45 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

RE: Stills - Wherever possible, I would like to use thematically appropriate, tho non-iconic screengrabs taken from the films themselves. I mean, this IS a horror poll, but if images should neccessarily be kept SFW, I can stay w/in said parameters if that is the general consensus?

fishermen are coveted by whores & stoners (Pillbox), Friday, 20 April 2012 13:55 (five years ago) Permalink

Not sure what it is that makes me respond well to LVT when I usually can't tolerate Haneke.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Friday, 20 April 2012 13:55 (five years ago) Permalink

Nah, it's a horror poll, come on.

emil.y, Friday, 20 April 2012 13:56 (five years ago) Permalink

xpost

emil.y, Friday, 20 April 2012 13:56 (five years ago) Permalink

seedier genre nasties like Human Centipede

Human Centipede really wasn't that bad. I mean, the very premise is dire and I admit I left the room for the few minutes depicting the actual surgery (so I don't even know how graphic that was) but compared to, say, Last House on the Left*, it was pretty benign, almost campy. I actually liked it a lot and like I've said, movies with brutality as a central theme are not my cup of tea.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Friday, 20 April 2012 14:09 (five years ago) Permalink

*asterisk to nowhere

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Friday, 20 April 2012 14:09 (five years ago) Permalink

there's actually nothing that explicit in the human centipede, one of the things I loved about it was that tom six managed to terrorize, scandalize & traumatize audiences with 3 naked people and a couple of pieces of gauze. as with most great horror films, it's works based on the implication of something more than the graphicness of it.

and the fact you were driven from the room based merely on the description of something is a great success! </dr heiter>

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, 20 April 2012 14:30 (five years ago) Permalink

*it works*

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, 20 April 2012 14:31 (five years ago) Permalink

Oh that was no success. I'm a huge wuss and scenes of forced medical procedures are one of my big freak out buttons. Getting me to leave the room on the threat of sewing three people together mouth to anus is about as hard as startling a sleeping house cat.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Friday, 20 April 2012 14:36 (five years ago) Permalink

But I agree w/ you completely about the movie.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Friday, 20 April 2012 14:37 (five years ago) Permalink

The episode of How It's Made with a piece about laser eye surgery was far, far more horrifying than anything in Human Centipede.

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Friday, 20 April 2012 14:55 (five years ago) Permalink

Here's a list of everything from the nomination list that appears to be currently streaming on Netflix:

Antichrist (2009)

Atrocious

Audition (1999)

Baby, The

Beast Within, The (1982)

Behind the Mask: The Rise of Leslie Vernon

Black Belly of the Tarantula, The

Black Sabbath

Blue Sunshine

Bucket of Blood, A

Burn, Witch, Burn

Butcher, The

C.H.U.D. (1984)

Candyman (1992)

Captain Kronos: Vampire Hunter (1974)

Carrie (1976)

Child's Play

Creepshow (1982)

Creepshow 2 (1987)

Dahmer

Dark Half, The

Daughters of Darkness
Dead and Buried (1981)

Dead End (2003

Deadgirl (2008)

Deathdream (1972)

Deep Red (1975)

Dust Devil (1992)

Eaten Alive (1977)

Evil Dead, The

Exorcist, The

Faust (1926)

Fido

Fog, The (1980)

Friday the 13th (1980)
Friday The 13th Part II

From Dusk Til Dawn (1996)

Funny Games (1997)

Fury, The (1978)

Gate, The (1987)

Grizzly Park

Hatchet

Hellraiser (1987)

Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer

Host, The

Hour of the Wolf (1968)

House (1986)

House of the Devil, The

Human Centipede 2: The Full Sequence, The

Human Centipede: First Sequence, The

Inferno (Argento)

Initiation of Sarah, The (1978)

Interview With The Vampire

Isolation (2005)

Keep, The

Killer Klowns from Outer Space (1988)

Lifeforce (1985)

Little Girl Who Lives Down The Lane, The (1976)

Lost Boys, The (1987)

Lost, The
Maniac (1980)

Maniac Cop

Mimic (1997)

Nightmares (1983)

Nosferatu (1922)

Parents

Pet Sematary (1989)

Phantasm II (1988)

Pit and the Pendulum, The

Pontypool

Prince of Darkness

Pulse
Rubber

Scream, Blackula, Scream (1973)

Severance

Squirm (1976)

Tale of Two Sisters, A

Them (2006)

To The Devil... A Daughter (1976)

Tremors (1990)

Triangle (2009)

Trick r' Treat

Ugly, The (1997)

Videodrome 

Village of the Damned (1995)

Darin, Friday, 20 April 2012 15:55 (five years ago) Permalink

whoa, thank you!!

Time, a group with Jam and Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 20 April 2012 16:02 (five years ago) Permalink

was Hatchet actually any good? I always think of it as "the Newbury Comics horror movie" because of how it was promoted here

I need new, hip khakis (DJP), Friday, 20 April 2012 16:14 (five years ago) Permalink

regarding recent trends in horror.... I've been a horror fan for over 30 years, I've seen a lot of subgenres come and go, and the past 10 years have been an embarrassment of riches. anybody complaining about the current state of horror needs to check themselves. yea, torture porn has been a dominant (and sometimes tiring) force, but there's also been asian ghost stories, zombie innovations (I'll reel off my standard list - the 28 movies, pontypool, deadgirl, the signal, the end of the line), and plenty of quality outliers (sauna, home movie). plus extreme horror has delivered its own set of triumphs among the copycat gruelfests, and at a higher rate than slasher films or 90s-meta ever did. jjjusten has a point about torture porn being a useless pejorative - everybody hates torture porn, and if you like one of the films falling under that rubric you're suddenly in a position of explaining why it's *not* torture porn, or how it distinguishes itself from its own subgenre.

that so much of modern horror is based on a knowing helplessness (e.g. a victim strapped into a torture dungeon) rather than on fear of the unknown accurately reflects our 21st century position. we know everything now, an enormous world of information is available to us with a brief swipe of our fingertips, yet terrorism and war abound and our daily happiness is at the mercy of global economies and market forces beyond our control. as our collective roles in society are defined as passive consumers of information, the terror is not some ancient unknowable evil, or in the suspense of being hunted - it is in "how much will I be shown / how much can I endure?" the tools are laid out on the table in plain view, the straps unsubtle, the ritual inevitable. the fact that a number of directors have been able to extend this trope beyond its inbuilt limitations is something to celebrate imo.

for example, I'll defend martyrs as being a thoughtful, self-reflexive hall of mirrors. the torture on display is not for sadistic pleasure or kicks, which is what we assume when the film begins. as its characters' motivations become clearer, our own motivations for watching are called into play. and laugier doesn't shove it down your throat, or pull any aesthetic dirty tricks like a haneke or von trier. he constructs a plot to keep you guessing but doesn't lead you around by the nose, never tries to seduce you into enjoyment or complicity, and - this is critical - doesn't patronize the audience or his characters. it's interesting how the film revels in grotesque intensity but never feels cheap or sordid, and how that overtly arty and clinical approach still manages to remain squarely in the horror genre.

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, 20 April 2012 16:16 (five years ago) Permalink

Thanks for the list, Darin! The Nightmares on Instant isn't the one that was nominated, though. And I'm guessing you consulted instantwatcher, because Hellraiser II is available on Instant but doesn't show up on that site (which isn't the first time I've noticed stuff missing from instantwatcher).

Potty Problems (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 20 April 2012 16:44 (five years ago) Permalink

i've been meaning to watch fido for a while now ... also, just got ferrera's the driller killer (thanks for the recommendation, kjb!) so i'll see what's up w/ that one.

a big fat fucking fat guy in a barrel what could be better? (Eisbaer), Friday, 20 April 2012 16:47 (five years ago) Permalink

Oh, wait, nobody nommed "Jeepers Creepers," did they? That should've been on the list. Unexpectedly good.

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Friday, 20 April 2012 16:48 (five years ago) Permalink

Here's a list of everything from the nomination list that appears to be currently streaming on Netflix:

Daren, you are awesome, thanks!

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Friday, 20 April 2012 16:55 (five years ago) Permalink

Haha, Phil, I thought Jeepers Creepers was awful.

emil.y, Friday, 20 April 2012 16:59 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah, I used instantwatcher for reference, but you're right - I don't think it's 100% accurate.

Darin, Friday, 20 April 2012 17:02 (five years ago) Permalink

thx darrin! you've been the secret mvp of this poll...

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, 20 April 2012 17:07 (five years ago) Permalink

if you missed any of these classics, get at 'em

Carrie (1976)

Evil Dead, The

Exorcist, The
Nosferatu (1922)


these are all worthwhile watches

Audition (1999)

Black Sabbath
 (if only for "the drop of water")
Blue Sunshine

Candyman (1992)

Daughters of Darkness
Dead and Buried (1981)

Deadgirl (2008)

Deathdream (1972)


Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer

Host, The

Hour of the Wolf (1968)

Human Centipede: First Sequence, The

Inferno (Argento)

Initiation of Sarah, The (1978)

Little Girl Who Lives Down The Lane, The (1976)

Pontypool

Pulse
Tale of Two Sisters, A

Them (2006)

Videodrome 


diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, 20 April 2012 17:13 (five years ago) Permalink

xxp But Jeepers Creepers kills off Justin Long! What's not to like?

You have to admit it's probably the best horror film directed by a convicted child molester, though.

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Friday, 20 April 2012 17:14 (five years ago) Permalink

sorry that honor goes to rosemary's baby

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, 20 April 2012 17:15 (five years ago) Permalink

OTM

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Friday, 20 April 2012 17:17 (five years ago) Permalink

Here's a list of everything from the nomination list that appears to be currently streaming on Netflix:

Thanks, Darin!!!

HE HATES THESE CANS (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 20 April 2012 17:17 (five years ago) Permalink

you all can talk about how awesome it is until you're blue in the face but I am not watching Deadgirl

I need new, hip khakis (DJP), Friday, 20 April 2012 17:19 (five years ago) Permalink

You have to admit it's probably the best horror film directed by a convicted child molester, though.

I did not know this. My first instinct was similar to EIII's, though I'd say Repulsion rather than Rosemary's Baby, but didn't he abscond before conviction? Or was he convicted but not sentenced? Though let's not turn this into another ethics of Polanski thread.

emil.y, Friday, 20 April 2012 17:29 (five years ago) Permalink

just wanna thank e3 for his dropped science, and not just cuz i agree with him.

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 20 April 2012 17:37 (five years ago) Permalink

was Hatchet actually any good?

Not really. Just about watchable but you might as well be viewing any lousy eighties comedy horror franchise effort.

Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Friday, 20 April 2012 17:55 (five years ago) Permalink

you all can talk about how awesome it is until you're blue in the face but I am not watching Deadgirl

i recommend not watching deadgirl. it's well-made, smart, challenging and awful.

and hatchet is a complete POS with one all-time great gore moment

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Friday, 20 April 2012 17:59 (five years ago) Permalink

Hatchet was mildly diverting, but I was fairly squicked to learn after the fact that the vomiting scenes in the movie were (completely unnecessarily) real.

Potty Problems (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 20 April 2012 18:07 (five years ago) Permalink

the most amazing thing about deadgirl is jenny spain's performance. she doesn't let the makeup do the acting, and if she had gotten it wrong the whole thing would've gone down the tubes, so easy for that to go laughable or intolerable. also perhaps an influence on mckee's the woman?

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, 20 April 2012 18:12 (five years ago) Permalink

ps fistbump to strongo

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, 20 April 2012 18:32 (five years ago) Permalink

We watched Breaking the Waves like... eleven years ago? and I still remember watching this movie, and being like, well, this woman is a fool but let's see where it all goes, and the end happened and I spent about an hour sobbing on the couch and probably wasn't right again for a couple of days and since then, I've had a strict no LVT policy.

― Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Friday, April 20, 2012 5:22 AM (5 hours ago)

I understand this completely and won't say you're wrong to feel as you do. I think it's one of the most remarkable movies I've ever seen (second time in this thread I've said that), but I completely understand where you're coming from. I felt furiously angry during the second half of the film, when it became inescapably clear where it was going. I loved Emily Watson's performance and character and did not want to see Bess destroyed for the sake of Lars fucking dickhead von Trier's "great art". I honestly don't think I've ever felt so enraged while watching a film as I did during the last half hour of Breaking the Waves.

When it was over, as the light played on the bridge and then the credits rolled, I wept uncontrollably. This wasn't the brief, misty-eyed tearfulness I sometimes experience in response to children's films and other forms of cheap, sentimental uplift. These were full, wracking, heartsick sobs, and they lasted for quite a while. I'd never before and have never since had that response to art of any kind. Afterwards, I didn't feel angry any more. I felt drained, and in feeling drained I felt strangely calm and clear, purged and refined, as though I'd successfully navigated some sort of meditative ritual. It's the only experience I've ever had that even vaguely resembles what people call "catharsis", and it was hugely valuable to me.

I'll defend martyrs as being a thoughtful, self-reflexive hall of mirrors. the torture on display is not for sadistic pleasure or kicks, which is what we assume when the film begins. as its characters' motivations become clearer, our own motivations for watching are called into play. and laugier doesn't shove it down your throat, or pull any aesthetic dirty tricks like a haneke or von trier. he constructs a plot to keep you guessing but doesn't lead you around by the nose, never tries to seduce you into enjoyment or complicity, and - this is critical - doesn't patronize the audience or his characters. it's interesting how the film revels in grotesque intensity but never feels cheap or sordid, and how that overtly arty and clinical approach still manages to remain squarely in the horror genre.

― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, April 20, 2012 9:16 AM (1 hour ago)

Martyrs is obviously a critique of exactly the sort of "cathartic" response I had to Breaking the Waves. It attacks the idea that horrific, abusive art can provide some sort spiritually transformative experience to sufficiently pious viewers. That's admirable, I suppose, but I found the film shallow and basically meaningless beyond that, drunk on cheap thrills and misery for its own sake.

For what it's worth and imo, the way Lars von Trier seduces us "into complicity" with his melodramatic agenda is one of the most brilliant things about Breaking the Waves. We are told up front that we will be manipulated, that we will be made to feel things. The film is very clear about this, and I respect its clarity. It allows us to say, "No, I am not so easily manipulated. I refuse to feel what you so obviously want me to feel." It solicits an oppositional response, and this in turn allows von Trier to play the incredible trick of making us feel exactly what he wants anyway, despite our awareness of the game being played. He manages to manipulate our emotions without playing any "tricks", with all the cards on the table, admitting all along exactly what he's up to. Von Trier even mocks his own appeal to emotion by calling attention the protagonist's fondness for cheap, sentimental, "spiritually moving" bric-a-brac. And the emotional reward (or punishment, if you prefer) he finally offers is profound. Or so it seems to me.

I don't see Martyrs as doing anything anywhere near as clever, perverse or daring. But that's more a matter of taste than relative "quality". I expect that others will see things differently.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Friday, 20 April 2012 18:33 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah lars von trier sucks dude

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, 20 April 2012 18:37 (five years ago) Permalink

wow that was long. sry all...

anyway, i was super hungover and depressed when i saw deadgirl, so maybe that affected my judgment. now that you mention it, edward, it is quite similar to mckee's the woman, and i dug that one. should probably see it again, in a less grouchy and sensitive frame of mind.

ignore me on deadgirl until i rescreen

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Friday, 20 April 2012 18:38 (five years ago) Permalink

sorry I could not resist punchline

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, 20 April 2012 18:43 (five years ago) Permalink

I've been a horror fan for over 30 years, I've seen a lot of subgenres come and go, and the past 10 years have been an embarrassment of riches. anybody complaining about the current state of horror needs to check themselves. ...asian ghost stories, zombie innovations (I'll reel off my standard list - the 28 movies, pontypool, deadgirl, the signal, the end of the line), and plenty of quality outliers (sauna, home movie). plus extreme horror has delivered its own set of triumphs among the copycat gruelfests, and at a higher rate than slasher films or 90s-meta ever did.

that so much of modern horror is based on a knowing helplessness (e.g. a victim strapped into a torture dungeon) rather than on fear of the unknown accurately reflects our 21st century position. we know everything now, an enormous world of information is available to us with a brief swipe of our fingertips, yet terrorism and war abound and our daily happiness is at the mercy of global economies and market forces beyond our control. as our collective roles in society are defined as passive consumers of information, the terror is not some ancient unknowable evil, or in the suspense of being hunted - it is in "how much will I be shown / how much can I endure?" the tools are laid out on the table in plain view, the straps unsubtle, the ritual inevitable.

can't argue with any of that. otm all the way. when i complain about the spectacle of helpless suffering in contemporary horror, i'm not disparaging the genre as a whole. it's seen a huge creative revitalization over the last 15 years or so.

that's also a pretty brilliant defense of the function of helplessness in contemporary horror. i'm not sure i completely buy it, but it's certainly compelling, and i applaud the construction.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Friday, 20 April 2012 18:48 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I was impressed by that second paragraph. Definitely an interesting way to consider it.

emil.y, Friday, 20 April 2012 19:10 (five years ago) Permalink

right or wrong, I def see the rise in torture porn coinciding with post-9/11, new american feelings of helplessness. oddly enough, this occurred to me after defending salo for years on movie fan messageboards after criterion reissued it in the late 90s. americans in particular seemed to have a difficult time accepting the film, hated the lack of agency of the characters. unfortunately I don't have the time right now to explicate much further but y'all can prolly connect the dots...

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, 20 April 2012 19:35 (five years ago) Permalink

definitely agree that the rise of "torture porn" in america seemed/seems at least in part to have been a response to 9/11. that agenda is made quite clear in films like hostel and turistas - also in the way the american flag, a mobile home and an isolated family function symbolically in aja's hills have eyes remake. i've tended to see the post 9/11 condition of symbolic american-ness in horror films as being one of uncomprehending isolation in hostile surroundings. i'd honestly never considered the way that the physical state of complete helplessness and entrapment might also be an expression of the same anxieties. it does make sense now that i think about it.

while we're on the subject, and lol @ me reading waaaaaay too much into things, i was struck at the time by a scene that appears in both hostel and the hills have eyes, the two most explicitly intentional "post-9/11" horror films i can think of. it may be that i'm misremembering things, but iirc, in both films a protagonist character is trapped, bound and tortured. during the torture sequence, two of the fingers on his/her right hand are cut off [cue drudge sirens]. it's almost too ridiculously on-the-nose to mention, but i was kind of blown away at the time by *the symbolizm*.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Friday, 20 April 2012 19:52 (five years ago) Permalink

i'm not sure that the symbolism would have been so striking to me if the act of seriously maiming a protagonist wasn't, at the time, such a surprising transgression in pop horror. prior to the extreme horror boom in american pop horror, to really and truly survive in the genre was generally to survive (more or less) intact, both physically and psychologically. to see the protagonist irreparably maimed therefore came as a terrible shock, because it made clear that "intact" was no longer an option. you couldn't go through the experience of horror and come out on the other side the same person. to endure horror was to be changed, to be broken, perhaps ruined forever. this also seems like a post 9/11 response, now that i think about it.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Friday, 20 April 2012 19:57 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm liking the direction of this discussion. I'm also no less wary about watching anything the slightest torture porn-y. Although, given the breakdown of post-9/11 extreme-ish horror tropes, it occurs to me that I may actually be a fan of what could be classified as psychological torture porn (which I would've never previously thought to label stuff like The Tenant and Inland Empire and Possession as such, even though a large part of why I enjoy them is the shared experience of audience and protagonist simultaneously being raked over psychological coals).

Potty Problems (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 20 April 2012 20:11 (five years ago) Permalink

Keep meaning to check this one out.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51h3jlkkhaL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Friday, 20 April 2012 20:34 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah, had never heard of that. sounds great.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Friday, 20 April 2012 21:02 (five years ago) Permalink

it occurs to me that I may actually be a fan of what could be classified as psychological torture porn (which I would've never previously thought to label stuff like The Tenant and Inland Empire and Possession as such, even though a large part of why I enjoy them is the shared experience of audience and protagonist simultaneously being raked over psychological coals).

otm, especially in that those are three of my favorite films, horror or not. and now that you mention it, most "torture porn" is ultimately about the psychological experience more than just the gore or even what i've called "the spectacle of suffering". after all, gore alone can't rake us jaded moderns over the coals. what i find troubling about torture porn is the psychological experience it forces me to endure. that and the spectacle of suffering, pervasive misogyny, tough-guy nihilism, etc...

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Friday, 20 April 2012 21:07 (five years ago) Permalink

i cant believe i didnt vote for spoorloos :\

, Friday, 20 April 2012 22:20 (five years ago) Permalink

thinking about it. loved it at the time, but it's been so long.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Friday, 20 April 2012 22:31 (five years ago) Permalink

Oh no--I want to vote for the original Stepford Wives, which no one nominated. If it's okay, Eric, I'm going to send an addendum with five more films you can just tack on at the end.

clemenza, Friday, 20 April 2012 23:30 (five years ago) Permalink

I don't know that psychological stuff can ever really be compared to 'torture porn'. There is something in the explicitness of the latter that seems more objective, where psychological stuff may really resonate with one person and fall flat with another, because it just can't operate in that objective field quite as well.

Spoorloos is going to be reasonably high on my ballot. I don't think that the first half is that great, it seems quite banal, but that banality ensures that the second half/ending makes me crumple all the more.

emil.y, Saturday, 21 April 2012 00:49 (five years ago) Permalink

Didn't know what you were both talking about till I looked it up. Pretty sure I saw the original on TV once; definitely saw the little-regarded remake (same director, weirdly enough).

clemenza, Saturday, 21 April 2012 01:09 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I think it was one of those 'move to America, remake your hit' scenarios. But ffs, they ruined it so bad.

emil.y, Saturday, 21 April 2012 01:17 (five years ago) Permalink

those [The Tenant and Inland Empire and Possession] are three of my favorite films, horror or not.

contenderizer, I'm gonna double up on my earlier recommendation of Images just for you. I share your love for those three films, and Images is in much the same vein.

Potty Problems (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 21 April 2012 01:35 (five years ago) Permalink

Just finished watching Deadgirl. Ugh. Well-made, but...hmm. I openly acknowledge that there are people in the world who are generally awful and I don't really need to see movies that just underscore that awfulness. Really persuasive argument for the forced castration of the entire male gender, though, if that's your thing.

Potty Problems (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 21 April 2012 01:39 (five years ago) Permalink

^ that was my response. admired the craft, intelligence and willingness to pursue an idea to its logical extreme, but i didn't enjoy the experience one bit.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Saturday, 21 April 2012 03:07 (five years ago) Permalink

voted. morbz will be happy to hear that my #1 vote was for a silent foreign film from 1920

Mordy, Sunday, 22 April 2012 00:47 (five years ago) Permalink

The Golem?

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 22 April 2012 00:49 (five years ago) Permalink

The Golem was my #5. My #2 was also a pre 1940s foreign movie.

Mordy, Sunday, 22 April 2012 00:50 (five years ago) Permalink

Forgot to vote for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dybbuk_(film) - would've been in my top 25 for sure.

Mordy, Sunday, 22 April 2012 00:50 (five years ago) Permalink

Eleven ballots now and a tie at #1. For fun.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Sunday, 22 April 2012 05:02 (five years ago) Permalink

sort of regret getting all po-face srs about breaking the waves, catharsis and those "full, wracking, heartsick sobs" up there. sheesh, me. it's all true, and i wanted to be matter-of-fact rather than coolly faux-casual & self-mocking, but i have a tendency to slip into dewy-eyed, handwringing earnestness when i don't watch myself.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Sunday, 22 April 2012 05:10 (five years ago) Permalink

note to future self: don't do that

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Sunday, 22 April 2012 05:12 (five years ago) Permalink

No prob, dude. I had the same reaction to Tree of Life and reported as much on its accompanying thread. Dewy-eyed handwringing solidarity.

Toity Troubles (Deric W. Haircare), Sunday, 22 April 2012 05:21 (five years ago) Permalink

As soon as I finalize an addendum to my list, I'll be writing in the original Mummy, directed by Karl Freund (who was the cinematographer on famous Lang and Murnau films...and I Love Lucy!)--completely slipped my mind during nominations. Very, very atmospheric. Kael: "No other horror film has ever achieved so many emotional effects by lighting; this inexpensively made film has a languorous, poetic feeling, and the eroticism that lives on under Karloff's wrinkled parchment skin is like a bad dream of undying love." I've never seen Freund's Mad Love with Peter Lorre.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbkuJrTPa4I

clemenza, Sunday, 22 April 2012 19:29 (five years ago) Permalink

i saw mad love last year and thought it was kind of awful. would like to see the 32 mummy again as it's been forever, and i do remember enjoying it

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Sunday, 22 April 2012 19:44 (five years ago) Permalink

Mad Love looks pretty crazy. It shares Gregg Toland with Citizen Kane, and Kael plausibly suggests that Welles may have based his look for Kane as an old guy on Lorre.

http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_full_width_scaled/hash/8e/7b/ck8.jpg http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t427/sayhey1/1935-mad-love-3.jpg?t=1335124356

clemenza, Sunday, 22 April 2012 19:59 (five years ago) Permalink

I'd forgotten about this--surprised it wasn't nominated for the title alone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEgq22jLho8

I saw it on TV years ago. More early-'70s esoterica: The Pyx, a Canadian film with Karen Black and Christopher Plummer that used to play on TV here regularly. If you're interested, this seems to work.

clemenza, Sunday, 22 April 2012 23:03 (five years ago) Permalink

if i had waited to submit my ballot until after i saw cabin in the woods, it would've for sure made my list. at least somewhere in the top 50

Mordy, Sunday, 22 April 2012 23:06 (five years ago) Permalink

Oh crap nobody nominated The Asphyx either!

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Sunday, 22 April 2012 23:17 (five years ago) Permalink

Haven't seen "Frenzy" since high school, going to rewatch it, thanks abanana.

poxen, Sunday, 22 April 2012 23:17 (five years ago) Permalink

Frenzy WAS nommed iirc.. I had included it on one of my nom lists & removed it after searching the page to discover someone else had listed it. It is indeed missing from the master list upthread, but if it was in fact on the nom list, it should be fair play, right Eric H?

fishermen are coveted by whores & stoners (Pillbox), Sunday, 22 April 2012 23:23 (five years ago) Permalink

I thought write-in votes were fine, the noms list was just for memory-jogging, right? So you can vote for anything, but it's less likely to make it into the top 100 if it isn't on the list. Or am I wrong?

emil.y, Sunday, 22 April 2012 23:30 (five years ago) Permalink

ok here is where i stan for THE CHANGELING (awesomely spooky 1980 haunted house flick starring George C. Scott - NOT the Angelina Jolie joint). In the interest of perhaps persuading a few of the uninitiated among the electoral constituency to check it out before voting, here is a YouTube w/ the first 15 minutes!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUKE_CGOjnE&feature=related

fishermen are coveted by whores & stoners (Pillbox), Sunday, 22 April 2012 23:38 (five years ago) Permalink

Not sure why Frenzy was left off the list, but yes, any movie is fair game, really.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Sunday, 22 April 2012 23:38 (five years ago) Permalink

Oh crap nobody nominated The Asphyx either!

― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Sunday, April 22, 2012 7:17 PM

I thought about it, not sure why i didn't. I wouldn't vote for it but it's a good flick. kind of obscure I guess? super-unique premise.

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Sunday, 22 April 2012 23:43 (five years ago) Permalink

re: the asphyx and the pyx (oddly similar names)

these were tapes that every video store had back in the 80s & early 90s, and i probably picked them up 20 times each without ever renting either. i deliberately gave them the skip because the packaging was so sad, and i'd learned to distrust tapes without credibly horrific screenshots on the back.

http://vhscollector.com/sites/default/files/vhscovers/Asphyx(Small).jpg

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Monday, 23 April 2012 00:16 (five years ago) Permalink

xpost

So much effort went into that monster, i.e. conjuring up an equal opportunity phallic/vaginal beast.

"Fourvel - it's like Fievel, but one less." (R Baez), Monday, 23 April 2012 00:23 (five years ago) Permalink

the dude on the asphyx cover looks like Carl Sagan.

a big fat fucking fat guy in a barrel what could be better? (Eisbaer), Monday, 23 April 2012 02:16 (five years ago) Permalink

Ok so I sat out the torture porn discussion on this thread partially because I don't want to be that guy and partially because I've prob already said most of the stuff I would say on that other thread but I will say that a) anyone w/a serious interest in the genre has to confront this stuff on a deeper level than hold on a second this is too long for a zing post

Badu and a sax run hand-in-hand (jjjusten), Monday, 23 April 2012 05:32 (five years ago) Permalink

sorry that was driving me crazy - to continue, if you have any sort of interest in the genre, the gulag placing of viewer defined torture porn is an empty cipher. giallo stuff is crazy, violent, misanthropic, and mostly anti-woman, but its gotten to the point of art acceptance so that gets a pass. texas chainsaw massacre gets a pass. but on some sorta sliding scale martyrs/hostel/saw/the butcher/toe tag/guinea pig are eventually devalued as empty or debased or wrong or reprehensible. i dislike several of those examples, but i dislike them because of their qualities, not their membership in a group. the fact that this happens withing peeps that are aficionados is kind of weird to me and seems like a capitulation to the idea that horror is a guilty pleasure or wrong in some way, unless it has been elevated over time. deadgirl for me is a case in point - it is unpleasant, and it is nihilistic, but it is a million miles from thoughtless or prurient. i dont expect people to be as convinced of its value as i am, but i think that the reductive way it gets discussed is sort of willful at times - it is unpleasant, it is uncomfortable, and it says terrible things about people and their capacities for the worst possible scenarios. but that nihilism is too easily dismissed (i fear) when it is wrapped in the context of a horror film, because then it can be easily discarded as baseless or pandering to an audience. i liked cabin in the woods a lot more before i read the various interviews where the creators talked about how they were critiquing the laziness and excessiveness of modern horror, because when viewed in that way, it seems pretty clear that they actually want to bowlderize horror, bring it back to the point where it was jokey and safe and fodder for teens being edgy with a knowing nod from their parents sitting upstairs and making popcorn. ignoring edge-treading gonzo unsafe horror in favor of winkwink thinking person stuff like pontypool or the genre lapping exercises of house of the devil or drag me to hell or the well mannered nordic sanitization of let the right one in (several of which i like, one of which i love) seems to smack of the same shame based self-loathing that makes game geeks talk endlessly about how video games are art, or can be. Texas Chainsaw Massacre is an ugly human hating monster that was further out of bounds of society at the time than martyrs or human centipede could ever hope to be, and acting like these films have somehow crossed some new line is straight up revisionist history.

Badu and a sax run hand-in-hand (jjjusten), Monday, 23 April 2012 06:06 (five years ago) Permalink

jj otm!

fishermen are coveted by whores & stoners (Pillbox), Monday, 23 April 2012 12:26 (five years ago) Permalink

I agree with you to the extent that anyone's making the argument that you're countering, jjjusten. I personally don't care to watch a lot of that more extreme stuff because it's maybe just too much for me. I wouldn't place any qualitative value on that "too much"-ness, though, or make any claims that it's worthless trash because I'd prefer not to watch it. As I said upthread, I seem to enjoy the psychological equivalent of those more extreme horror movies, but I wouldn't blame somebody one bit if they were, for example, too uncomfortable to sit through Possession. And if that person were to saddle their discomfort with a negative qualitative judgment, I'd have to assume that their gut-level revulsion played as much of a role in the critique as their critical faculties did. I think some people are always going to equate 'deeply unpleasant' with 'bad'.

Campbell's Pink & Pasty (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 23 April 2012 13:12 (five years ago) Permalink

while we're on the subject, and lol @ me reading waaaaaay too much into things, i was struck at the time by a scene that appears in both hostel and the hills have eyes, the two most explicitly intentional "post-9/11" horror films i can think of. it may be that i'm misremembering things, but iirc, in both films a protagonist character is trapped, bound and tortured. during the torture sequence, two of the fingers on his/her right hand are cut off [cue drudge sirens]. it's almost too ridiculously on-the-nose to mention, but i was kind of blown away at the time by *the symbolizm*.

― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Friday, April 20, 2012 3:52 PM (3 days ago)

ha, nice catch there

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 23 April 2012 13:38 (five years ago) Permalink

obv I'm with mr justen all the way but the torture porn bashing in this thread has been mild to non-existent, most folks have acknowledged that martyrs and deadgirl are unusual and well-made films, even if the content or overall message isn't for them.

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 23 April 2012 13:57 (five years ago) Permalink

obv I'm with mr justen all the way me too -- i think he summed it up nicely.
I have been under the impression that anyone who bothers to post to this thread is (1) into horror movies and (2) pretty well schooled on the varieties and (3) not a total psychopath. Maybe that's naive on more than one count, but I don't think so.

as for deadgirl, I haven't seen it, but my lurker has and his opinion was the same as everyone else's here afaict -- well executed (pardon the choice of terms there), but could not recommend and never need to see/think about it ever again.

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Monday, 23 April 2012 14:08 (five years ago) Permalink

In making my list I've determined that Horror Comedy is my favorite genre of horror movies.

Jeff, Monday, 23 April 2012 14:11 (five years ago) Permalink

That and the Human Centipede, which is sort of a comedy.

Jeff, Monday, 23 April 2012 14:12 (five years ago) Permalink

I watched Cat People and Curse of the Cat People yesterday. Saw the original years ago; don't think I'd ever seen the second. Very good--I'm tempted to cast a dual vote for the two of them (you could enjoy the second without having seen the first, but I think it helps), but I know how Eric feels about melding the two Godfathers into one vote, so I won't. The first is scarier and more of a pure horror film, so I'll go for that. The sequel has some genuinely frightening moments involving the old woman's daughter, though, just like the first is as dreamy and as strange as the sequel--they flow together well.

clemenza, Monday, 23 April 2012 14:22 (five years ago) Permalink

Can I please do some light but earnest campaigning for my favorite movie on this list, and one of my favorite movies of all time?! A movie for which I engaged in overseas tourism? This song is great. And no one can deny that OH GOD OH JESUS CHRIST is a terrifying moment the first time you see it? I just posted this to another thread and it was so good I had to put it here too. It's that time of year again...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDLi4v8evJM

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Monday, 23 April 2012 14:41 (five years ago) Permalink

Positive The Wicker Man will be Top 10--I had it slightly lower on my ballot.

clemenza, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:04 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah, if the Wicker Man doesn't make it to the top 10, I will not only eat my hat but declare all the results invalid.

emil.y, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:05 (five years ago) Permalink

(And force everyone who didn't vote for it to watch the remake on eternal repeat.)

emil.y, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:05 (five years ago) Permalink

Is the symbolism that the two fingers are the twin towers?

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:07 (five years ago) Permalink

I tried to watch Creepshow last night; I got through the one where Patsy Stone's dad crawls out of the grave and kills her while she lies there immobile for 30 seconds, and about 10 minutes into the one with the green moss, and just couldn't do it anymore. OTT dumbed-down shit grates on me so hardcore.

Time, a group with Jam and Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:13 (five years ago) Permalink

Congratulations. You are not a child of the '80s.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:14 (five years ago) Permalink

i dont think 'wicker man' needs shilling, tbh.

the second greatest horror film about rl european heathen customs is 'sukkubus - teufel im leib', but im aware that no-one outside k4r4g4rg4 has seen this, so i didnt nominate it.

, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:15 (five years ago) Permalink

Also, you of all people decrying OTT shit, Stevie, smdh at you.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:17 (five years ago) Permalink

xp I'm all for horror-comedy but not where the comedy is "Look how stupid this country bumpkin is!! Look at those funny faces he's making! He's so stupid!!!"

Time, a group with Jam and Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:18 (five years ago) Permalink

But he is a stupid country bumpkin! And he is making funny faces! It's a goddamned comic book!

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:24 (five years ago) Permalink

It's like if Disney Channel made a horror film.

Time, a group with Jam and Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:25 (five years ago) Permalink

That's so craven.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:25 (five years ago) Permalink

The idea of watching someone w/ a Monkee's haircut running around flapping his arms crosseyed and yelling "DERP DERP DERP!" for half an hour just does not rly appeal to me I guess.

Time, a group with Jam and Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:26 (five years ago) Permalink

Stay clear of Two Thousand Maniacs, SD...

clemenza, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:27 (five years ago) Permalink

But at least the ott blood and gore would compensate for the stupidity of the characters though

Time, a group with Jam and Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:37 (five years ago) Permalink

Slippery slope imo.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:42 (five years ago) Permalink

i've thought about voting for the Nicolas Cage version of the wicker man -- oh wait, this isn't the comedy poll!

(joke)

a big fat fucking fat guy in a barrel what could be better? (Eisbaer), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:43 (five years ago) Permalink

feel a distinct disconnect w/ anyone who can't find some level of amusement in 80s Stephen King mugging it up as a yokel in a Romero directed EC Comics tribute.

circa1916, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:47 (five years ago) Permalink

Is the symbolism that the two fingers are the twin towers?

Also wondering about this.

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:48 (five years ago) Permalink

Somehow think the disconnect begins and ends with anyone who can't find some level of amusement with EC Comics full stop.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:51 (five years ago) Permalink

The "Jordy" segment is no doubt intended to be something like a Jack Davis tribute, all funky and sweaty and messy and gangly.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:52 (five years ago) Permalink

That's why I said light campaigning. Just making sure we are all on the same page here. Proceed.

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:55 (five years ago) Permalink

I can't watch the moss part b/c it grosses me out way too much. Just too horrible.

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:58 (five years ago) Permalink

Is the symbolism that the two fingers are the twin towers?

yeah. i said it was a stretch...

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Monday, 23 April 2012 16:01 (five years ago) Permalink

King's performance as "Hoagie Man" in Romero's Knightriders is his true shining moment imo.

http://www.discordia19.com/storage/king_cameo1.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1327683865672

circa1916, Monday, 23 April 2012 16:07 (five years ago) Permalink

His cameo as a racist truck driver in Creepshow 2 isn't bad either.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 23 April 2012 16:09 (five years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65GQg06SX90

tbf he was sky-high on coke and pills pretty much continuously from 1980-1985

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Monday, 23 April 2012 16:10 (five years ago) Permalink

That's so craven.

HAHAHAHAHA! A+++

Advanced Uncle Meat recovery system (Dan Peterson), Monday, 23 April 2012 16:15 (five years ago) Permalink

anyway, about extreme horror and "torture porn" or w/e, in response to jjj:

the slasher film has never been my favorite genre. essence of the genre = crazy monsterish guy watches girls get naked while breathing heavy, then plunges knives into them. not my thing, unless there are strong fantasy elements to offset the stalk and slash, as in say nightmare on elm street. the giallo is similarly troubling, perhaps more so because the misogyny is often more explicit, plus rapeyness, implied or otherwise. i like mario bava and dario argento because they made absolutely amazing, bizarre and dreamlike films, but have few other italian horror favorites. and i find the texas chainsaw massacre actively unpleasant. it's a great & important movie in lots of ways, but the constant, desperate shrieking & terrified helplessness get to me. much prefer the sequel's comic surrealism.

on a broader level, i have little time for "gritty", "realistic" and brutally sadistic nihilism as art or entertainment. i feel that it has nothing useful to say about life, and whatever sensibility it might appeal to just isn't mine. moreover, whatever "boundary" it might seem to be pushing at has long ago been thoroughly transgressed. the room beyond is just another room, anyone anyone can enter any time they wish, and its ugliness isn't inviting. i like both straw dogs and taxi driver, but that's about as far down that particular path as i care to go.

i've been watching horror movies nearly all my life, the gorier the better, but i think my interest in the genre is fundamentally an outgrowth of my childhood love of fantasy and science-fiction literature. i watch horror to see impossible, undreamt things, the imagination unleashed. horror, as a cinematic genre, is a much freer than fantasy and sci-fi, which are bound by tiresome action melodrama expectations. i like that sense of possibility. any crazy thing anyone can think of can be made into a horror movie of some sort, and probably will be. i like the suspense, the desperation, the titillation, the darkness and the gore, but they aren't enough on their own to seduce me. i need some visionary quality, something from another world.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Monday, 23 April 2012 16:41 (five years ago) Permalink

re: la lechera

the wicker man is great, but come on, it's a lock

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Monday, 23 April 2012 16:43 (five years ago) Permalink

xpost Def going to be interested to see your ballot imo.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 23 April 2012 16:44 (five years ago) Permalink

the primary reason i disliked deadgirl, by the way, is that it uses the "zombie movie" trappings to make a story about rape and sexual slavery semi-palatable. in essence, it's about two boys who find a sex slave and continue to use her as a sex slave. the film would work just as well - it would mean the same thing and function in the same way - if the girl were not a zombie. i don't deny that it has something valid to say, but the brutality and explicitness of the presentation repelled me. that said, the ending was pretty great and i did like they mysterious anubis-dog.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Monday, 23 April 2012 17:08 (five years ago) Permalink

with contenderizer on this. I don't feel the need to critically lambast stuff I have no interest in watching and when I read the plot summaries of something like Martyrs for ex it just seems like something I don't want to experience. which is not a value judgment on it as a film or not, really.

heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 April 2012 17:16 (five years ago) Permalink

For me, it's not so much a moral problem as a question of largely replacing suspense with disgust. It's not a new phenomenon, and it's as valid an approach as any other, but i tend to find films like Deadgirl dull.

Just like you, except hot (ShariVari), Monday, 23 April 2012 17:22 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm sure I've issued this caveat already on here somewhere, but I am not trying to talk anyone into watching or liking any of these movies - I just bristle when there seems to be more of a surface reading of the more extreme stuff simply because it's extreme. For example (not picking on you contenderizer) describing deadgirl as being about rape and sexual slavery, when there is a lot more going on there. And similarly, claiming that it could have been done w/o the living dead girl is a similar misreading of theme to me, because it radically changes everything about the motivations and decision making of the 2 main characters.

Badu and a sax run hand-in-hand (jjjusten), Monday, 23 April 2012 18:04 (five years ago) Permalink

This probably isn't the thread for it, and lol at me for asking this about a movie I have no intention of seeing, but what else is there to Deadgirl besides rape and sexual slavery mixed in with zombies?

I need new, hip khakis (DJP), Monday, 23 April 2012 18:13 (five years ago) Permalink

Its a pretty interesting meditation on teen socialization and sexuality actually.

Badu and a sax run hand-in-hand (jjjusten), Monday, 23 April 2012 18:15 (five years ago) Permalink

And beyond that also how we form morality in a situation outside definition and standardized exemplars of behavior. Also how we define what it is to be human and what the line between person and object truly is.

Badu and a sax run hand-in-hand (jjjusten), Monday, 23 April 2012 18:18 (five years ago) Permalink

Ugh, can we not use the word "meditation?"

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Monday, 23 April 2012 18:26 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah, it's kinda like war film : killing :: Deadgirl : sex. I got it, I just didn't particularly want it.

Campbell's Pink & Pasty (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 23 April 2012 18:27 (five years ago) Permalink

This is grossly unfair but if I want to watch a meditation on what it means to be human, I would watch about a bazillion slavery movies before watching Deadgirl, since slavery is a direct antecedent of my family history.

I need new, hip khakis (DJP), Monday, 23 April 2012 18:32 (five years ago) Permalink

for me it's trollhunter

HE HATES THESE CANS (Austerity Ponies), Monday, 23 April 2012 18:39 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah sorry I used meditation, I regretted it right afterwards but some guy was yapping at me while I typed so

Badu and a sax run hand-in-hand (jjjusten), Monday, 23 April 2012 18:42 (five years ago) Permalink

tell GZeus we said hi

I need new, hip khakis (DJP), Monday, 23 April 2012 18:44 (five years ago) Permalink

ahahaha

HE HATES THESE CANS (Austerity Ponies), Monday, 23 April 2012 18:46 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm Norwegian, and zombies are a direct antecedent of my family history.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 23 April 2012 18:51 (five years ago) Permalink

This is grossly unfair but if I want to watch a meditation on what it means to be human, I would watch about a bazillion slavery movies before watching Deadgirl, since slavery is a direct antecedent of my family history.

I was thinking when I wrote up my ballot about whether I wanted to include Irreversible or not. I decided against it tho bc horrific movies are not the same as horror movies, and some horrific movies (movies about eg slavery, the holocaust, rape, etc) are worse and more difficult for me to watch than any horror movie. (Quoted DJP for tangental reasons - your comment about slavery just reminded me of this question I had.)

Also, I kinda feel bad bc there are some horror movies that I will probably never watch (Human Centipede, Audition, Martyrs, Deadgirl, etc) not bc I think they're bad movies but bc I'm kinda legit too frightened to subject myself to them? Not that this is similar, but tho I watched 2 Girls 1 Cup when it was the rage, I refused to watch those videos of those Ukrainian teenagers killing that guy. Obv these films are fictional and these other things are "non-fictional" but some images I don't want circulating in my brain. Anyway, I feel bad bc in some ways I suspect those are the best horror movies - the ones that are too scary for me to even watch. But I couldn't vote for any of them.

Mordy, Monday, 23 April 2012 18:57 (five years ago) Permalink

2 Girls 1 Cup

comedy poll iirc

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:00 (five years ago) Permalink

i'm not really a horror person - but am tempted to submit a ballot just so i can vote for Cemetery Man.
considered putting it on my comedy ballot!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:02 (five years ago) Permalink

FWIW, Mordy, Deadgirl isn't at all visually extreme (I have similarly-squeamish reservations about the other films you mention, aside from Human Centipede, which I've also heard leaves a lot to the imagination but which I simply have no desire to see anyway). It's the characters' motivations and decisions and actions that encourage fifteen post-viewing showers.

Campbell's Pink & Pasty (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:02 (five years ago) Permalink

oh man, someday my curiosity is going to overpower my sense and I'm going to watch Audition, and then I will hate myself so very much because I know I shouldn't watch that movie because I'm a gigantic wuss but I also know that one day I will watch it and that will be a sad day full of cringing

I need new, hip khakis (DJP), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:03 (five years ago) Permalink

Honestly think by this point Audition can't really do as much damage as it would've in stealth mode, before everyone knew it to be one of the new kings of extremity.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:04 (five years ago) Permalink

(Yes, that is me double daring you.)

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:04 (five years ago) Permalink

I think you are underestimating how much of a wuss I can be

I need new, hip khakis (DJP), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:04 (five years ago) Permalink

This is what wikipedia plot summaries are for iirc.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 23 April 2012 19:06 (five years ago) Permalink

but am tempted to submit a ballot just so i can vote for Cemetery Man.

cosign this before it disappears. everyone pls to watch and vote for cemetery man.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:11 (five years ago) Permalink

idk if this is the best place for this, but i wanted to let ppl know that They Live is playing on TCM 5/5 and Evil Dead II is playing on IFC 5/1

Mordy, Monday, 23 April 2012 19:15 (five years ago) Permalink

This thread has reignited my examination of why I'm perfectly able to handle pretty much any '70s/'80s/'90s gore but am totally squicked by the very idea of the gore in a lot of more recent movies, particularly wrt "torture porn". Like, reading about the eyeball stuff alone was enough to make me avoid Hostel. I think it might be something to do with the increasing tendency towards leaving less to the imagination (and also towards longer, lingering, loving shots of awful tableaux) plus a jaded, novelty-driven pushing beyond the boundaries of what I'm comfortable with. I used to love watching stuff with Tom Savini explaining his tricks and techniques and showing off all kinds of grotesqueries, but I'd feel a little uneasy seeing the (probably mostly digital) workshops of some of these dudes working today. I dunno. Maybe I'm just getting old.

Campbell's Pink & Pasty (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:15 (five years ago) Permalink

I know for me, the problem is that if I watch something, my subconscious does its damnedest to convince my body that what I'm seeing is real, almost to the point of triggering anxiety attacks later on when I try to sleep. If the context in which this is presented is fantasy or science fiction, I have enough obvious unreality for me to properly distance myself and control the physiological reaction, but 9 times out of 10 a straight-up slasher flick with tons of gore is going to be nightmare city.

Resident Evil didn't give me any nightmares at all, and neither did Silent Hill, but the remake of Night of the Living Dead ruined my sleep for a week and Nightmare On Elm Street 2 did likewise. My ability to tolerate a film is almost 100% predicated on whether I can rationalize it into something other than "a horror film".

I need new, hip khakis (DJP), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:20 (five years ago) Permalink

fwiw, hostel & hostel II aren't anywhere near as revolting as they're often made to sound. they have their moments, but are pretty enjoyable, overall. i like audition, too, though the R-rated version is rough enough for me.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:22 (five years ago) Permalink

i am not clicking play.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:31 (five years ago) Permalink

1:35 should get you to the good stuff

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:32 (five years ago) Permalink

du bist ein Arsch, Herr "Austerity Ponies"

I need new, hip khakis (DJP), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:33 (five years ago) Permalink

No joke, speaking as one wuss to another, Audition is way, way harder to watch than Human Centipede.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:38 (five years ago) Permalink

DJP, when you spoke of the physical, visceral reaction, it made me think of that scene, which as of today I have only seen 3 times, because HOLY FUCK JESUS

the interesting part is that it is my right eye that hurts, as if I had been looking into a mirror instead of a screen.

HE HATES THESE CANS (Austerity Ponies), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:41 (five years ago) Permalink

ichi the killer is way more gruesome than audition ... and it's also better than audition.

a big fat fucking fat guy in a barrel what could be better? (Eisbaer), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:42 (five years ago) Permalink

not nominated, bc rightfully it's not very good, but i get a lot of pleasure from poppy slasher horror movies like I Know What You Did Last Summer

Mordy, Monday, 23 April 2012 19:43 (five years ago) Permalink

also, it's been hard for me to take human centipede seriously since it was spoofed on South Park.

a big fat fucking fat guy in a barrel what could be better? (Eisbaer), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:46 (five years ago) Permalink

"Which would you rather I eat? Should I eat the cuttlefish and asparagus, or the vanilla paste?"

I need new, hip khakis (DJP), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:48 (five years ago) Permalink

no wai is ichi better than odishon! great onscreen delivery of the title, great gore here and there, amazing conclusion, but i thought it was a pretty dull movie outside the flagrantly weird stuff. auditon's completely the opposite. everyone talks about the crazy stuff at the end, but i was fascinated by the characters and their relationship.

THE KITTEN TYPE (contenderizer), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:48 (five years ago) Permalink

my eye still hurts

HE HATES THESE CANS (Austerity Ponies), Monday, 23 April 2012 20:00 (five years ago) Permalink

ok, i'm bored. horror-stans, talk about something provocative plz!

is anyone voting for faces of death? or similar 'horror' films?

Mordy, Monday, 23 April 2012 20:13 (five years ago) Permalink

Hey guess what? Everybody is OTM about Cabin in the Woods.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 03:48 (five years ago) Permalink

And no I am not voting for Faces of Death. I couldn't get past the first vignette (IIRC somebody getting tortured and punched in the face).

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 03:50 (five years ago) Permalink

Well, they were dead when they were punched in the face, so ...

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 03:57 (five years ago) Permalink

everyone pls to watch and vote for cemetery man.

Oh man, Cemetery Man is just swell.

"Fourvel - it's like Fievel, but one less." (R Baez), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 04:12 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm going to fill my last spot with the Twin Peaks pilot. (I don't mean to sidetrack this into Twin Peaks discussion #591.) I got it out and watched it again tonight. I'm not a big fan of Fire Walk with Me--there are parts of it I like--and even though I'd be okay with voting for the entire series, that really wouldn't be fair (plus you'd be voting for a fair amount of really silly stuff). The pilot is a way for me to acknowledge that part of the series (four, five, six hours, scattered about) that gripped and terrified me as much as almost anything I've ever seen. The blueprint for that film is in the pilot. Bob doesn't appear, but he's looming--in the one shot of the school's empty halls, in the awful traces left behind in the boxcar, in Grace Zabriskie's scream at the end. If you know what's coming, it's a horror film.

clemenza, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 04:32 (five years ago) Permalink

i want to stan for and hope everyone will vote for DAUGHTERS OF DARKNESS, harry kumel's decadent eurosleaze masterpiece from 1971. it is sort of my ideal horror movie, and another of my all time favorite movies of any sort. it's technically a "lesbian vampire movie", but much less campy and trashy than that might suggest, it's pitched somewhere between antonioni ripoff and tribute to the gothic glamour of 40s horror. drowsy, sexy, death-haunted and just totally badass from front to back. plus an all-time classic performance from delphyine seyrig as the countess elizabeth bathory.

http://10kbullets.com/images/2006/10/daughtersbride-02.jpg

http://10kbullets.com/images/2006/10/daughtersbride-04.jpg

http://blog.deedeesvintage.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/countess2.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ICedDZ151CI/Tin6kD1lvvI/AAAAAAAACcI/Dd5ekEm0oo8/s1600/darkness.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eJGQD8b1nHQ/Tin7LC6ZmHI/AAAAAAAACcQ/hwwV17F01mM/s1600/13625546_gal.jpg

THE KITTEN TYPE (contenderizer), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 04:42 (five years ago) Permalink

a lot of "it is" and "it's" sentences in there :(

THE KITTEN TYPE (contenderizer), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 04:43 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm going to fill my last spot with the Twin Peaks pilot.

Yeah, even though it's stretching the purpose of this poll somewhat, I considered stumping for some specific television episodes (e.g. Twin Peaks - "Lonely Souls", The X-Files - "Home", The Outer Limits - "Don't Open Until Doomsday" (total proto-Lynch, that one)) that are as solid as any number of horror films in the nominations thread. Because otherwise you'd have to do a "best horror episodes of all time" poll, which would just be a mess.

Dr. Buzzard's® Original Banana Bread (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 05:44 (five years ago) Permalink

I can't believe that jeepers creepers didn't get nommed, might vote for it anyway, and so should everyone else obv.

Badu and a sax run hand-in-hand (jjjusten), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 07:26 (five years ago) Permalink

i'm not qualified to vote in this but i think i may have been the only person to vote for cemetery man in the comedy poll and i just wanted to pop in and second/third/fourth the entreaties to vote for it here since i never bothered to stump for it earlier and have learned that the only thing necessary for cemetery man to fail is that good men do nothing.

their private gesture for bison (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 07:37 (five years ago) Permalink

"you have a lovely ossuary."

their private gesture for bison (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 07:38 (five years ago) Permalink

I really hope Michele Soavi's career takes off again because i'm pretty sure he'd be making better films than Argento at this point.

Just like you, except hot (ShariVari), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 07:50 (five years ago) Permalink

'Burn, Witch, Burn' is down on the list, it's also known as 'Night of the Eagle' and is a nice, low key chiller.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=768i8r9XfbU

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Thursday, 26 April 2012 18:42 (five years ago) Permalink

at the risk of being chased out of the thread with torches, i watched repulsion last night and it was sort of ok? i dont quite get where the huge love for it comes from at all.

Rachel Profiling (jjjusten), Thursday, 26 April 2012 19:35 (five years ago) Permalink

like if i ever had the need to watch something like that i would much rather have carnival of souls or psycho on and be done with it.

Rachel Profiling (jjjusten), Thursday, 26 April 2012 19:36 (five years ago) Permalink

yesterday i almost posted that you (and ed3) have been relentlessly otm throughout this thread.

now i am glad i got drunk and forgot what i was doing and played a mega man emulator instead.

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 26 April 2012 19:37 (five years ago) Permalink

hahaha

Rachel Profiling (jjjusten), Thursday, 26 April 2012 19:40 (five years ago) Permalink

ok to be fair i prob need to take a step back, ive kind of been mainlining old horror movies and giallos so i feel like i can vote fairly in this and it might be doing my head in a little bit, i think i watched who can kill a duckling and the start of two other things before getting to this one, so it seemed like a bit of a slog.

Rachel Profiling (jjjusten), Thursday, 26 April 2012 19:43 (five years ago) Permalink

What did you think of Don't Torture A Duckling?

Just like you, except hot (ShariVari), Thursday, 26 April 2012 19:46 (five years ago) Permalink

I mentioned upthread that Repulsion seems several steps away from Psycho - it goes farther, handles various things more explicitly. I thought it was great, especially stuff like the arms bursting through the walls in the hallway, cracks appearing abruptly in the building, her pulling back the covers of her bed and having a crazed rapist leap out from under them etc

heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 26 April 2012 19:48 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah i dunno, i think it's great, close to my favorite polanski and quite accessible. set and setting, though...

THE KITTEN TYPE (contenderizer), Thursday, 26 April 2012 19:48 (five years ago) Permalink

so since this all started and in the interests of research i've watched Possession, Amer, Pontypool, Tourist Trap, The Witch Who Came From The Sea, Pulse, Drag Me To Hell, Below and Apaches. Although I liked them all to varying degrees (apart from maybe Below) prob only Possession will make my 50. Got Paperhouse, Who Can Kill A Child and Hour Of The Wolf lined up (yes, I've been doing lots of youtubing). Obv I can't list everything I've seen but assuming I'm a pretty big horror fan and have seen most of the canonical ones, does anybody have personal recommendations for something I really, REALLY need to see before the deadline?

second only to popcorn (or something), Thursday, 26 April 2012 19:51 (five years ago) Permalink

Have you seen Alucarda?

Just like you, except hot (ShariVari), Thursday, 26 April 2012 19:54 (five years ago) Permalink

nope.

second only to popcorn (or something), Thursday, 26 April 2012 19:55 (five years ago) Permalink

and it's on youtube, thanks shari.

second only to popcorn (or something), Thursday, 26 April 2012 19:56 (five years ago) Permalink

guys do you all wanna get together and make a horror movie? this is what my life has been building toward since about age 10 but i'm 34 now and in the interest of keeping it really real i'll never get my shit together well enough to pull it off before i'm dead.

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:01 (five years ago) Permalink

I have no horror-filmmaking skills, I'm pretty sure

heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:03 (five years ago) Permalink

can you play dead? i'm sure there's an extras role in there for you somewhere.

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:03 (five years ago) Permalink

sure, i wanna make a movie.

THE KITTEN TYPE (contenderizer), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:03 (five years ago) Permalink

M. White used to be a location scout iirc

heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:04 (five years ago) Permalink

but sure I can play dead. I am also good at rolling around in corn syrup & red dye no. 5, if necessary

heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:05 (five years ago) Permalink

the saddest lol is that i already have the script written.

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:05 (five years ago) Permalink

Uh oh, I fear a Demon Lover/Demon Lover Diary situation coming on...

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:05 (five years ago) Permalink

and s1ocki knows a thing or two about moviemakin iirc

heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:06 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm in if I can die an absurdly creative death sometime in the second act.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:06 (five years ago) Permalink

if i ever get this thing off the ground, i promise to have my c.a.a. rep give each of you a call.

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:11 (five years ago) Permalink

I have blue and red gels, so let me know if you want some 80s lighing effects in there.

Meanwhile, on some cars... (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:19 (five years ago) Permalink

i will do this as long as craft services includes booze

Rachel Profiling (jjjusten), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:23 (five years ago) Permalink

can I sing on the soundtrack?

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:24 (five years ago) Permalink

i can bake cookies

THE KITTEN TYPE (contenderizer), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:25 (five years ago) Permalink

I can review it.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:25 (five years ago) Permalink

I can make a documentary about the making of it and then not let anyone see it while it's tangled up in decades-long distribution legal battles.

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:27 (five years ago) Permalink

Or I could work the craft services table. That's what I usually get stuck doing anyway. That, "transportation coordinator" or managing the online store.

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:29 (five years ago) Permalink

I can saw into cables so that the catwalk mysteriously falls on the leading man

Meanwhile, on some cars... (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:30 (five years ago) Permalink

i wanna read this script now.

Rachel Profiling (jjjusten), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:35 (five years ago) Permalink

okay aside from someone fronting us five million to make it, we're like almost there folks.

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:35 (five years ago) Permalink

just putting it out there, i will act in anyones horror movie as long as they fly me to where it is being filmed and provide booze. lodging and food would be nice, but with enough booze i can work around that.

Rachel Profiling (jjjusten), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:36 (five years ago) Permalink

really glad that i specified horror movie there before DJP enlisted me to star in his magnum opus "1 Guy 1 Cup"

Rachel Profiling (jjjusten), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:40 (five years ago) Permalink

okay so far we got:

justen as lead
slocki to direct (presuming we can meet his fee)
djp as music director
austerity ponies as lighting director
shakey and carl in starring victims roles
la lechera as les blank on the set of fitzcarraldo
contenderizer for catering
eric as pauline kael

anyone have tom savini's phone number?

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:41 (five years ago) Permalink

xp: I think that would still count as a horror movie tbh

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:42 (five years ago) Permalink

all we need is a final girl and a few reckless venture capitalists.

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:44 (five years ago) Permalink

plus I will learn claymation

Meanwhile, on some cars... (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:47 (five years ago) Permalink

I know film editors/FX/animation people at ILM, I'm sure I could get at least two of them to help out

heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:50 (five years ago) Permalink

"the cabinet of mr. jay batman, an ilx films production"

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:50 (five years ago) Permalink

guys do you all wanna get together and make a horror movie? this is what my life has been building toward since about age 10 but i'm 34 now and in the interest of keeping it really real i'll never get my shit together well enough to pull it off before i'm dead.

― jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:01 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

YES. I can do the Repulsion-esque psychodrama lady lead, or I can just, y'know, proof the script. Being crazy and being literate are pretty much my only personality traits.

emil.y, Thursday, 26 April 2012 21:28 (five years ago) Permalink

Being crazy and being literate are pretty much my only personality traits.

hey, me too!

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 26 April 2012 21:30 (five years ago) Permalink

*high fives*

emil.y, Thursday, 26 April 2012 21:33 (five years ago) Permalink

I can do your credits, strongo. Just downloaded a 'scratchy film' filter for Premiere and a Marilyn Manson song, so I'm good to go.

Dr. Buzzard's® Original Banana Bread (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 26 April 2012 21:34 (five years ago) Permalink

I would make a great extra, I'm nondescript and unmemorable and won't pull focus from the lead. And I take instruction really well.

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Thursday, 26 April 2012 21:53 (five years ago) Permalink

if dan p can't/won't do the soundtrack, i know that m.eily would do a bang-up job.

a big fat fucking fat guy in a barrel what could be better? (Eisbaer), Thursday, 26 April 2012 22:02 (five years ago) Permalink

You can have this one for free.

emil.y, Thursday, 26 April 2012 22:06 (five years ago) Permalink

can I be script doctor? I always wanted to be a doctor. also recommend that music director djp approve emil.y's soundtrack for use.

hey strongo I don't have savini's number but why buy a burger when you can learn to hunt

http://www.dec.edu/pages/makeupeffects.html

he's in your neck of the world, too

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, 27 April 2012 13:31 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I have a friend who went to the Pittsburgh Art Institute to study under Savini, and he's doing effects in Tarantino movies and stuff now, so his programs are presumably the Real Deal.

Dr. Buzzard's® Original Banana Bread (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 27 April 2012 13:48 (five years ago) Permalink

Obv I can't list everything I've seen but assuming I'm a pretty big horror fan and have seen most of the canonical ones, does anybody have personal recommendations for something I really, REALLY need to see before the deadline?

― second only to popcorn (or something), Thursday, April 26, 2012 3:51 PM (Yesterday)

you've done a lot of good homework already! some last minute recommends:

a tale of two sisters - I stopped repping for this years ago because it went from being an obscure korean film to one of its more well-known exports. it's a super creepy ghost story, but also verrry well-made, great cinematography and set design, top notch acting. it stumbles a bit during the conclusion but its gothy swampy dreamy sumptuousness is something else. streaming on the netflix.

homebodies - a 1974 black comedy about a group of seniors who start bumping off the people who plan to demolish their apartment building. kind of obscure, never on DVD, but it's on youtube. a weird mix of funny, poignant, and chilling.

last house on dead end street - a carnival of souls for the nihilist grindhouse set, as bottom of the barrel production values manage to produce some transcendent eerie effects and memorable, iconic images. the soundtrack of the last 10 minutes is dominated by drug crazed laughter. must've been some hard tonic back in 1973. US DVD is out of print, happy hunting.

polanski's macbeth / the tenant - the first two films in the apartment trilogy are going to suck up most of the polanski love in this poll, but don't overlook these two gems. his macbeth is brutal, gory, and darkly beautiful. the tenant is identity paranoia par excellence and proves there is nothing scarier than roman polanski in a dress.

haxan / vampyr - assuming you've already seen nosferatu, these are other worthwhile silent era treats.

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, 27 April 2012 15:17 (five years ago) Permalink

^^^ SPOILER ALERT re: The Tenant

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Friday, 27 April 2012 15:20 (five years ago) Permalink

Found this through the Damage contrololz thread. Video is good. Skip to ~ 2:00.

http://movieline.com/2012/04/26/great-moments-in-baseball-the-rings-sadako-throws-first-pitch-at-japanese-game/

Pita Malört (Je55e), Friday, 27 April 2012 15:23 (five years ago) Permalink

looooool

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, 27 April 2012 15:26 (five years ago) Permalink

hahahaha

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Friday, 27 April 2012 15:27 (five years ago) Permalink

It would have been pretty funny no matter what, but what she does post-pitch made me laugh aloud at my desk.

Pita Malört (Je55e), Friday, 27 April 2012 15:48 (five years ago) Permalink

Ok so putting together my ballot is basically making me feel terrible for doing a shit job in the nominations process, because there is no Jim van Bebber nominated. Fuck me.

Rachel Profiling (jjjusten), Saturday, 28 April 2012 06:17 (five years ago) Permalink

xxxp thanks for the recommendations edward. Vampyr will be pretty high on my list and The Tenant prob 3rd in a list of 4 polanski's that might make it but haven't seen any of the others so I'll get looking, unfortunately hampered by access to only the shitty uk versh of netflix tho.

second only to popcorn (or something), Saturday, 28 April 2012 09:43 (five years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNUr__-VZeQ

clemenza, Sunday, 29 April 2012 17:23 (five years ago) Permalink

Mid-polling period slump. I've only gotten two ballots in the last 4 or 5 days, bringing it up to a total of 13 with the early birds. I'd hate for 50 ballots to come in the last day (hint, hint).

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:36 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm gonna be a late bird, as is my lurker.
Give me a day or three and we will get our ballots in, and they will be full of HORROR.

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:39 (five years ago) Permalink

Imma get mine to you in the next day or so. Watching all of these movies I intended to watch just totally isn't gonna happen before the ballots are due.

O Aquaman (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:39 (five years ago) Permalink

dude I guess I should get mine over to you then as well, for one very obv reason & also to spare you my portion of the last-minute clusterfuck

fishermen are coveted by whores & stoners (Pillbox), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:46 (five years ago) Permalink

In the interest of fairness, I have every intention of extending the voting period an extra few days. But if your ballot is basically set, don't procrastinate.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:57 (five years ago) Permalink

i'll get my ballot to you in a day or two, eric, not just to spare you the last-minute clusterfuck but also b/c i'm at the "law of diminishing returns" portion of watching/evaluating horror films for this poll.

Nu Metal is the best music there is, the rest is pussy shit. (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:58 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm incredi-busy until the 6th, so if voting is extended that'd be awesome. If not, my ballot will be a bit more rushed and definitely last-minute.

emil.y, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:03 (five years ago) Permalink

Probably too late to influence voting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T5_0AGdFic

clemenza, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:11 (five years ago) Permalink

you'll get mine in the next couple days, eric

Choc. Clusterman (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:26 (five years ago) Permalink

also, wanted to pass along a short film that jjj recommended to me the other night. it's called outer space (2000, d. peter tscherkassky), and i don't know whether or not it's the "outer space" mentioned in the nominations list. even if not, it's worth a look. it's made entirely out of a painstakingly rephotographed and reedited chunk of the 1982 film the entity, starring barbara hershey, but it's a distinct and separate work, and quite a trip besides. all i've seen is a low-quality youtube. while it clearly doesn't do the film justice, it does get the idea across. plus it's only 10 minutes long, so no great investment required.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTarJ0Op7W8

Choc. Clusterman (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:38 (five years ago) Permalink

If I weren't the moderator of this poll, I'd be stunting hardcore for ^^^ too.

... oops.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:40 (five years ago) Permalink

there are a few other tubes of it up, none terribly high quality, but maybe a bit better?

Choc. Clusterman (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:41 (five years ago) Permalink

(And, yes, it's the same Outer Space as was nominated, because I was the one who nominated it.)

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:43 (five years ago) Permalink

cool, didn't know. this one's a bit better (and bigger), but still pretty cruddy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yASwqIWjaVI

Choc. Clusterman (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 02:29 (five years ago) Permalink

My ballot is submitted.

Jeff, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 02:33 (five years ago) Permalink

Fairly off topic, mentioning The Entity reminds me of this Thurston Moore song that samples it extensively:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C33Z4Cx5Adg

O Aquaman (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 04:21 (five years ago) Permalink

Oh, man, I'd forgotten about Outer Space. I was super into that when I first saw it. I don't know how seriously I'd take it as a horror film nomination, though (similar to my half-serious nomination for Hopital Brut inasmuch as they're more senses-battering experimental films than horror per se).

O Aquaman (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 04:32 (five years ago) Permalink

I would, however, like to suggest a very last moment write-in candidate which I'm surprised no one nominated:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S03Aw5HULU

O Aquaman (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 04:34 (five years ago) Permalink

NAKED BLOOD (aka "Splatter: Naked Blood", originally Nekeddo burâddo: Megyaku) - 1996, d. Hisayu Sato

I'd intended to rep this film early on, but kept putting it off. Now it's probably too late to change anyone's mind, especially as it's not the easiest thing to get a hold of - or endure. Still, it's one of my favorite horror films of the last couple decades, and this seems as good a place as any to discuss it. Basically, Naked Blood tells the simple story of a gifted but profoundly alienated young man who invents a drug (called "myson" or perhaps "my son") that causes people to experience pain as pleasure. His fond but distant mother is a medical researcher, and he tests his new drug on her hapless patients, with predictably gruesome results.

Naked Blood earned some cult notoriety in its day due to the grisly "self pleasurings" that result from the drug's application, but it's anything but a grim & gritty torture show. Though the idea of self-mutilation is ghastly and the gore is plentiful, what we see on screen is often more campy than stomach-churning (keep an eye out for the one truly unforgettable exception to this rule). More troubling to some may be the fact that, since the patients are all attractive young women and the "protagonist" spies on them voyeuristically in order to track the progress of his experiment, the result is at least arguably misogynist.

Moral reservations aside, this is a far stranger and more challenging film than its cartoonish American title might suggest. It combines a careful and understated look at the point where depressive disassociation slides over into something like psychosis - a common theme in Japanese horror and drama - with absurdist art-experimentation realized on a shoestring budget. Though it definitely delivers the "splatter" its American title promises, it's ultimately more concerned with symbolic transcendence and the possibility of love in a seemingly loveless world than with gore for gore's sake. Plus telepathic cactii. Bizarre, anguished and even moving, it deserves a much wider audience.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gdLoL6h5MFM/S1ucQdbu3jI/AAAAAAAAAJU/kjG3xBxjnmU/s1600/snapshot20100124014855.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_gdLoL6h5MFM/S1ucR7ueFHI/AAAAAAAAAJc/Y01NUS5Pu_Y/s1600/snapshot20100124014922.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gdLoL6h5MFM/S1ucTHTSo1I/AAAAAAAAAJk/lYBw5RoMZFI/s1600/snapshot20100124014952.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_gdLoL6h5MFM/S1ucnd6jchI/AAAAAAAAAKk/xkkSdm5S-hc/s1600/snapshot20100124015315.jpg

Choc. Clusterman (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 04:37 (five years ago) Permalink

xp yeah, i feel like a dummy for never even considering meshes of the afternoon. it's not as aggressively horrorific as outer space, but seems at least as worthy a candidate as lot of other stuff that got nominated. amer seems to borrow more than a little from it.

Choc. Clusterman (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 04:57 (five years ago) Permalink

OK, 15 ballots now.

Weird anomaly: Two films are currently tied for the most votes overall. One of the two is ranked #2 overall, whereas the other one is all the way down at #25. Token votes anyone?

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 05:02 (five years ago) Permalink

Also, only one movie has more than one #1 vote. It has three.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 05:05 (five years ago) Permalink

HMMM. Interesting. I had no idea Wishmaster was so well-regarded.

Vaginal Meshes Of The Afternoon (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 05:07 (five years ago) Permalink

lol

i will probably cast the lone vote for wishmaster 2 though

Choc. Clusterman (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 05:13 (five years ago) Permalink

Hey guys, I just watched Outer Space at work with the sound off. I think I remembered to breathe (?) because I didn't pass out. This is going p high on my list. The sound track will determine how high, but I could never see it w/the sound on and be v happy with what just happened to me.

Meanwhile, on some cars... (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:47 (five years ago) Permalink

The sound is more than half the terror imo.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:52 (five years ago) Permalink

Guys, if people are voting Maya Deren, then I'm on board. There's a lot of experimental film out there that's unsettling that maybe could be considered horror but probably isn't, but Meshes of the Afternoon has enough elements of horror that I will vote for it comfortably.

If you haven't seen Meshes, do! (and then vote for it)

Meanwhile, on some cars... (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:57 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm looking forward to watching Outer Space again, with sound.

Meanwhile, on some cars... (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:58 (five years ago) Permalink

There was a Tscherkassky season on Mubi in Europe recently. The films are probably still there if anyone has access.

Just like you, except hot (ShariVari), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:00 (five years ago) Permalink

I will probably vote for Meshes, now that I've remembered it long after the nomination period has ended.

Vaginal Meshes Of The Afternoon (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:04 (five years ago) Permalink

i just sent in my ballot -- i'll defend everything on my list, but i don't expect about 40%-50% of them to show up in the final tally.

Nu Metal is the best music there is, the rest is pussy shit. (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 01:48 (five years ago) Permalink

watched Frankenheimer's Seconds last night, will be placing it pretty high i think. ticks a lot of my boxes.

second only to popcorn (or something), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 11:19 (five years ago) Permalink

really not a horror film unless '60s orgies give you the willies.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 11:55 (five years ago) Permalink

well i'd better not vote for it then. remind me which of the films nominated for Top 100 horror films aren't actually horror films then otherwise this is gonna be one big waste of time for everyone.

second only to popcorn (or something), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 12:14 (five years ago) Permalink

those scenes in cali are p horrifying, at least in part b/c the movie would be a lot better w/o them

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 12:21 (five years ago) Permalink

no way, it wouldn't be half as interesting w/out them.

Choc. Clusterman (contenderizer), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 16:12 (five years ago) Permalink

Pretty sure Seconds ends with a drill kill or something close to it, right? I think that's horror enough.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 16:26 (five years ago) Permalink

genuinely don't see how it could be considered not, paranoid and with a weird, uncanny feel.

second only to popcorn (or something), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 16:34 (five years ago) Permalink

plus the drill kill obv.

second only to popcorn (or something), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 16:34 (five years ago) Permalink

I want to put a ballot in but feel like there's huge blind spots (mostly in the last decade) that I feel remiss about

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 16:35 (five years ago) Permalink

no one's ever going to see everything, just send a ballot

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 16:43 (five years ago) Permalink

plus I like handicapping recent films, as good as horror has been in the past decade there are only 2 movies on my ballot from that period

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 16:48 (five years ago) Permalink

Oh crap nobody nominated The Asphyx either!

― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Sunday, April 22, 2012 7:17 PM

I thought about it, not sure why i didn't. I wouldn't vote for it but it's a good flick. kind of obscure I guess? super-unique premise.

― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Sunday, April 22, 2012 7:43 PM (1 week ago)

by the way, a remastered asphyx was just released on blu-ray. would like to see it again in widescreen as I have a fond but dim memory of a decades-ago viewing.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Asphyx-Remastered-Edition-Blu-ray/dp/B0074V61KG

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 18:14 (five years ago) Permalink

voted

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:31 (five years ago) Permalink

awesome xpost

Anyone within driving distance of Chicago? There's gonna be a free showing of GOD TOLD ME TO and Cohen's new movie tomorrow, w/ Q & A session.

I serve at the pleasure of Dr. Dre and a team of Sorbonne scientists. (R Baez), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 22:33 (five years ago) Permalink

wow, would love to see that, but i am not within anything like driving distance, sadly. can't find any info on what his "new movie" might be, either. kind of excited to find out.

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 22:51 (five years ago) Permalink

Ohhh, man. Of course that happens after I've left Chicago.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:04 (five years ago) Permalink

if I had know y'all were gonna start repping experimental films I would've nommed olivier de sagazan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-S862p69B0

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:32 (five years ago) Permalink

So awes.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:49 (five years ago) Permalink

It's good to see that Mummenschanz is still going strong.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 3 May 2012 16:12 (five years ago) Permalink

transfiguration, by olivier de sagazan

^^^OOOOOOOOOOOH

a la bouquet marmoset (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:21 (five years ago) Permalink

huh, that's really good. never heard of him

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:26 (five years ago) Permalink

only scary part is wondering if he'll poke an eye out

the acquisition and practice of music is unfavourable to the health of (abanana), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:27 (five years ago) Permalink

wow, that was great! wouldn't make my top 50 list, but damn cool.

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:24 (five years ago) Permalink

ok i swear i will get my ballot in before the deadline eric but i have strange circus showing up on friday and i need to see if it places

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 3 May 2012 21:23 (five years ago) Permalink

lol, that is a fucked-up movie

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 21:33 (five years ago) Permalink

well then given my tastes i better see it first

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 3 May 2012 21:38 (five years ago) Permalink

it's probably gonna be on my list fwiw

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 21:41 (five years ago) Permalink

Ballot submitted! It's more mainstream than I expected, once all was said and done, but I threw a few decent curveballs in there that will hopefully have some effect. Also, I never really considered just how many Puppet Master movies there are, but it thankfully made the top quarter of my ballot pretty much a no-brainer.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 3 May 2012 22:59 (five years ago) Permalink

working on compiling mine and it is tough!

original bgm, Friday, 4 May 2012 00:03 (five years ago) Permalink

^ same here, plan to get it in tonight though. tomorrow maybe...

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Friday, 4 May 2012 01:51 (five years ago) Permalink

my ballot is definitely mainstream/"classical" horror (e.g., i have a few silents in there) b/c that's about as far into the horror genre as i'm normally willing to go. so there's very little of the buckets-of-blood-and-gore stuff on my ballot.

Nu Metal is the best music there is, the rest is pussy shit. (Eisbaer), Friday, 4 May 2012 01:53 (five years ago) Permalink

20 ballots in now. A movie I presumed would be in the top 10 finally managed to get there with the most recent batch of ballots, after languishing in the 40s or 50s for awhile now.

Still plenty of room to push your favorites into the top 100. Right now there are eight movies in there on the strength of a mere 2 ballots.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Friday, 4 May 2012 02:16 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm going to try to get it together tonight or tomorrow -- I treat deadlines like due dates, unfortunately.

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Friday, 4 May 2012 02:18 (five years ago) Permalink

Hey Eric, did you say there might be a short extension to the voting deadline? I'm working my ass off at the moment, and don't see me whittling down my incredibly long shortlist at any time before the actual deadline day...

emil.y, Friday, 4 May 2012 02:55 (five years ago) Permalink

sort of bummed that there haven't been more responses (while still delaying my own). i guess horror fandom on ILX is a small but vocal cult.

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Friday, 4 May 2012 03:05 (five years ago) Permalink

I'd be unsurprised if the number of ballots doubled (tripled?) by the deadline.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 4 May 2012 03:08 (five years ago) Permalink

I don't want to encourage everyone to procrastinate, but yes, I will likely hold open the polls for an extra day or two or three.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Friday, 4 May 2012 03:27 (five years ago) Permalink

as u may know, EH, I have other priorities til Wednesday.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, 4 May 2012 03:51 (five years ago) Permalink

Ah crap just remembered another intended nom, the dark hours! This ballot is killing me

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Friday, 4 May 2012 05:19 (five years ago) Permalink

I'll probably turn in the ballot right at the deadline. Sorry!

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Friday, 4 May 2012 12:14 (five years ago) Permalink

watched begotten last night cuz it'd been forever and i remembered liking it. quite a trip, won't make my ballot.

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Friday, 4 May 2012 17:27 (five years ago) Permalink

Sent my ballot in. Sorry so last minute. I was hoping to see more movies before I voted.

a la bouquet marmoset (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 4 May 2012 19:14 (five years ago) Permalink

working on compiling mine and it is tough!

― (⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Thursday, May 3, 2012 8:03 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^ same here, plan to get it in tonight though. tomorrow maybe...

― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, May 3, 2012 9:51 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, sry for the delay on mine, Eric. I should have it submitted tomorrow, though.

fishermen are coveted by whores & stoners (Pillbox), Saturday, 5 May 2012 00:12 (five years ago) Permalink

I just sent mine in. Sorry it took so long. I was hoping to rewatch more

MrDasher, Saturday, 5 May 2012 05:44 (five years ago) Permalink

Been super busy with end-of-semester stuff. I have a 48-item ballot ready to go but I've been putting off finding two more films and sending it for about two weeks... argh.

There are many tribes in the Juggalo nation (Viceroy), Saturday, 5 May 2012 18:22 (five years ago) Permalink

i'm posting one last minute. sorry but i'm really taking my time over this, care about it even more than the psb poll tbh.

second only to popcorn (or something), Saturday, 5 May 2012 20:01 (five years ago) Permalink

i am doing this right now

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Saturday, 5 May 2012 22:14 (five years ago) Permalink

aggggghhh. sent. nothing i can do about it now stop looking at it.

I do want to mention/pimp 2 that I cut at the last moment because they were just not quite horror enough (more revenge story really) that would have been in my top 20, RED by lucky mckee (well kinda) and the The Horseman (not the horsemen with dennis quaid), which are both completely amazing.

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Saturday, 5 May 2012 22:55 (five years ago) Permalink

i need to go breathe into a paper bag for a while

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Saturday, 5 May 2012 22:59 (five years ago) Permalink

getting close to done...

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Sunday, 6 May 2012 01:43 (five years ago) Permalink

Just remembered something that I left off my ballot fuuuuuuuuuck

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Sunday, 6 May 2012 02:09 (five years ago) Permalink

Thinking about a ballot, I remembered Mute Witness. Too late for evangelizing but it can at least get onto the lower end of my 50.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 6 May 2012 02:47 (five years ago) Permalink

yay I voted

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Sunday, 6 May 2012 02:52 (five years ago) Permalink

also I am super drunk

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Sunday, 6 May 2012 02:52 (five years ago) Permalink

Don't watch any of my horror choices right now, why, because I am a good friend

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Sunday, 6 May 2012 03:20 (five years ago) Permalink

aaaaaallright, it's sent. horrible process. so much stuff i wanted to include but couldn't: living dead girl, ginger snaps, uzumaki, freaking dawn of the dead. sorry it's so last minute, eric, but at least i got it done. yay, me! now i'm looking forward to the results...

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Sunday, 6 May 2012 21:40 (five years ago) Permalink

DONE

I'm sure I forgot something of vital importance, but I ended up with a solid list of 50 movies I really like, so I'm okay with it. I don't know if it's super MOR (probably) but I don't think anything on there will come as a surprise to anybody who knows me. Ultimately, I picked based almost entirely on gut - if I thought, "Holy shit I LOVE that movie!" about a movie, it went on the list. Top ten definitely in order, next ten or 15 sort of in order, everything after that was just free for all.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Sunday, 6 May 2012 22:14 (five years ago) Permalink

Ultimately I never got around to watching most of the movies recommended here that looked great, but two I watched in preparation for this poll made it on the ballot so... success?

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Sunday, 6 May 2012 22:14 (five years ago) Permalink

i think i'm done! holy crap that was arduous.

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Sunday, 6 May 2012 22:34 (five years ago) Permalink

it's like a list of my 50 favorite movies (and i had to slash and burn about 20 after the initial whittling)
i didn't watch any extras because choosing from my existing favorites was plenty hard enough, i'll watch new ones later.

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Sunday, 6 May 2012 22:35 (five years ago) Permalink

Between seeing people rep for it in this thread (some who just saw it for the first time thanks to the poll) and my first-place vote, I'm looking forward to seeing a movie that I hadn't even heard of a year ago get a decent position in the results.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Sunday, 6 May 2012 22:46 (five years ago) Permalink

sent! finally..

fishermen are coveted by whores & stoners (Pillbox), Sunday, 6 May 2012 23:12 (five years ago) Permalink

and i had to slash and burn about 20 after the initial whittling - oh man, whittling mine down from like the 75 point or so was just goddam EXCRUCIATING. Hardest list I've had to make for an ilx poll by a fair margin.

fishermen are coveted by whores & stoners (Pillbox), Sunday, 6 May 2012 23:24 (five years ago) Permalink

Mine is going to be a last second entry. I'm finishing watching "Haxan" on Hulu tonight, and I want to rewatch a couple of other things too.

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Sunday, 6 May 2012 23:54 (five years ago) Permalink

just sent mine in! wound up voting for 40 films, somehow forgetting Dawn Of The Dead until I was searching for 1 or 2 more to fill it out. goofy mix of old and new I'm not sure I'll be able to defend the order of in a month, but unlike the comedy list, I won't think i was foolish to leave anything out. weirdly wound up with at least three from 1978 in my top 10.

da croupier, Monday, 7 May 2012 11:39 (five years ago) Permalink

About a dozen new ballots came in over the weekend. Still a good distance away from my own personal goal 50-ballot benchmark.

#1 could still go to any one of about four or five different movies.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 7 May 2012 12:37 (five years ago) Permalink

Still a good distance away from my own personal goal 50-ballot benchmark.

That aside ... a hearty thank you to everyone who has turned in a ballot so far!

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 7 May 2012 12:39 (five years ago) Permalink

As long as the fringe horror nerds have made enough of an appearance to throw some monkeywrenches into the results with their weird and obscure horror movie choices, I'll be happy. The less these poll results look like boilerplate AFI lists, the better, imo.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 7 May 2012 12:48 (five years ago) Permalink

I can tell you there are some movies whose placements (so far) are surprisingly high; others even more surprisingly low. One or two movies in the current top 10 are somewhat surprising to me too. Didn't realize Jack Frost was so highly regarded.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 7 May 2012 12:51 (five years ago) Permalink

Well, despite Michael Keaton's voicework, it was a pretty horrifying creation.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 7 May 2012 13:03 (five years ago) Permalink

i wish i'd had the time to get involved in the nominations process, putting together my ballot now and finding it hard to fill all 50 spot, will probably just have 30 or so

some dude, Monday, 7 May 2012 13:09 (five years ago) Permalink

i swear by all that is unholy i will get my ballot in after work.

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 7 May 2012 13:13 (five years ago) Permalink

Well, despite Michael Keaton's voicework, it was a pretty horrifying creation.

i thought maybe eric was referring to this timeless classic:

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTIwMDkxNTU1NF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNzc0MDQyMQ@@._V1._SY317_CR3,0,214,317_.jpg

he's chillin & killin!

fishermen are coveted by whores & stoners (Pillbox), Monday, 7 May 2012 13:18 (five years ago) Permalink

As long as the fringe horror nerds have made enough of an appearance to throw some monkeywrenches into the results with their weird and obscure horror movie choices

howdy doo

i realized that my ballot was totally stuffed with movies about women. i hope that let's scare jessica to death gets the respect it deserves. not that it's all that OBSCURE these days but it's not Halloween.

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Monday, 7 May 2012 13:18 (five years ago) Permalink

i felt remorse this morning for not doublechecking for the devils, which i think i forgot to vote for! O NO

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Monday, 7 May 2012 13:19 (five years ago) Permalink

DJP, I found your in-flight movie from Taipei to Tokyo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mbo5vHy8dw&feature=related

a la bouquet marmoset (Austerity Ponies), Monday, 7 May 2012 13:36 (five years ago) Permalink

Plus your new ringtone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMvFo4cd02o

a la bouquet marmoset (Austerity Ponies), Monday, 7 May 2012 13:37 (five years ago) Permalink

Speaking of ringtones, I half-saw an unfortunate amount of One Missed Call last night. Can anyone here confirm that it is, in fact, the worst mainstream horror movie of the last ten years?

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 7 May 2012 13:48 (five years ago) Permalink

oh god that would be a good quickie poll thread, we should cull suggestions in teh 'shit your pants' thread or something

some dude, Monday, 7 May 2012 13:54 (five years ago) Permalink

Horror on Sorority Hill (or whatever it was called) was pretty bad. Also my personal worst is FEAR DOT COM. I can't believe I sat through that.

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Monday, 7 May 2012 13:54 (five years ago) Permalink

fear dot com will win unless it was more than 10 years ago

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Monday, 7 May 2012 13:54 (five years ago) Permalink

So what's cut-off here, timewise? If it's midnight EST tonight, I should be able to get one in...

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 7 May 2012 14:05 (five years ago) Permalink

The cutoff is try to get it in by the time you go to bed tonight, whenever that is. I'll be closing polls officially tomorrow or Wednesday.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 7 May 2012 14:08 (five years ago) Permalink

LL otm re: let's scare jessica

also wish I had done more pregame repping for lemora, a child's tale of the supernatural. reminiscent of valerie and her week of wonders, except replace the hippie-dippie surrealism with bava-does-southern-grotesque.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/lemora_01.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/lemora_02.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/lemora_03.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/lemora_04.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/lemora_05.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/lemora_06.jpg

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 7 May 2012 14:09 (five years ago) Permalink

i'm sorry to report that lemora was among the last 5 i cut -- but it is SO GREAT
if you have an extra vote to give, consider donating it to jessica, valerie, or lemora. they all deserve it.

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Monday, 7 May 2012 14:12 (five years ago) Permalink

Also it's really a shame that more people haven't seen Demon Lover Diary (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0206681/) -- it's not technically horror (although it's about making a horror movie), but there's a real menacing vibe to it that would make it a horror movie if it weren't a documentary.

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Monday, 7 May 2012 14:15 (five years ago) Permalink

Horror on Sorority Hill (or whatever it was called) was pretty bad. Also my personal worst is FEAR DOT COM. I can't believe I sat through that.

― former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Monday, May 7, 2012 9:54 AM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Sorority Row? i thought it was aight, in the way that shitty new mainstream horror flicks often carry on the spirit of old B-movie slasher flicks better than deliberate 'grindhouse' homages or whatever.

some dude, Monday, 7 May 2012 14:27 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I just remember thinking it was lazy and uninspiring.

I am also bummed that I missed the chance to vote for Insidious, which I really liked in spite of the stupid ghostbusters comedy thread. I also forgot what it was called.

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Monday, 7 May 2012 14:33 (five years ago) Permalink

pretty sure it was called insidious

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 7 May 2012 14:36 (five years ago) Permalink

verb tense!
clearly i do not continue to forget

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Monday, 7 May 2012 14:37 (five years ago) Permalink

also since you cut lemora from yr ballot I'm dropping the wicker man from mine

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 7 May 2012 14:37 (five years ago) Permalink

ok that hurt

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Monday, 7 May 2012 14:39 (five years ago) Permalink

If everyone instead focused on cutting Jack Frost from their ballots, then we'd all have room for both Wicker Man and Lemora.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 7 May 2012 14:42 (five years ago) Permalink

fight the real enemy

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 7 May 2012 14:46 (five years ago) Permalink

Every list needs at least one "winter SLAY-ride!" though, so choose wisely.

I serve at the pleasure of Dr. Dre and a team of Sorbonne scientists. (R Baez), Monday, 7 May 2012 14:47 (five years ago) Permalink

also wish I had done more pregame repping for lemora, a child's tale of the supernatural. reminiscent of valerie and her week of wonders, except replace the hippie-dippie surrealism with bava-does-southern-grotesque.

have to confess that i still haven't seen lemora. i wish you had pushed it itt, edward, cuz i've been meaning to see it for years, and it looks like exactly the sort of thing i'd love (valerie made my list*, and that's borderline horror at best).

* wicker man too, of course

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Monday, 7 May 2012 14:48 (five years ago) Permalink

I have finished all my work commitments, so now it is head down, full steam ahead, non-stop editing of horror ballot.

Too late for me to get any more watching in, sadly...

emil.y, Monday, 7 May 2012 14:58 (five years ago) Permalink

argh, still have to edit mine and it's going to have to wait until after work. sorry!!

original bgm, Monday, 7 May 2012 15:07 (five years ago) Permalink

Oh my god I just realized a terrible terrible omission from my list

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Monday, 7 May 2012 15:11 (five years ago) Permalink

As in should have been top ten. Noooooooooooooo

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Monday, 7 May 2012 15:12 (five years ago) Permalink

have to confess that i still haven't seen lemora. i wish you had pushed it itt, edward, cuz i've been meaning to see it for years, and it looks like exactly the sort of thing i'd love (valerie made my list*, and that's borderline horror at best).

* wicker man too, of course

― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Monday, May 7, 2012 10:48 AM (24 minutes ago)

*kicks self*

lemora is by no means perfect, but the carefully composed lighting and set design plus fairy tale trappings elevate the proceedings above its limitations. def more of a horror movie than valerie.

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 7 May 2012 15:13 (five years ago) Permalink

love gozu and want to vote for it but I'm not sure if it's really a horror movie.

guys, is gozu horror?

original bgm, Monday, 7 May 2012 15:13 (five years ago) Permalink

sure, parts of it definitely are

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Monday, 7 May 2012 15:19 (five years ago) Permalink

Been forever since I've seen it - can't remember much beyond Yakuza skins and dialogue off cue cards.

Nonetheless, it's on the list of nominees - go ahead and vote for it.

I serve at the pleasure of Dr. Dre and a team of Sorbonne scientists. (R Baez), Monday, 7 May 2012 15:19 (five years ago) Permalink

overall, it's probably not horror, but it's definitely worth voting for, even on the thinnest of excuses.

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Monday, 7 May 2012 15:20 (five years ago) Permalink

was a little disappointed in "that scene". certainly doesn't beat udo kier in the kingdom.

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Monday, 7 May 2012 15:21 (five years ago) Permalink

that's all the convincing I need

original bgm, Monday, 7 May 2012 15:24 (five years ago) Permalink

Yes it is, and I left it off my list. ;_;

a la bouquet marmoset (Austerity Ponies), Monday, 7 May 2012 15:24 (five years ago) Permalink

Oh my god I just realized a terrible terrible omission from my list
As in should have been top ten. Noooooooooooooo

I will accept revisions. Within reason.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 7 May 2012 15:31 (five years ago) Permalink

certainly doesn't beat udo kier in the kingdom.

Are you talking about the end of the first miniseries? I'll assume that you are, seeing as how that was one of the most WTF?!?! things I've ever seen.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 7 May 2012 15:31 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Monday, 7 May 2012 15:37 (five years ago) Permalink

want to revise my whole ballot, not the contents, just the order, but i will refrain. what's done is done.

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Monday, 7 May 2012 15:38 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I only have one real regret, but I'm moving forward with my life now.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Monday, 7 May 2012 15:41 (five years ago) Permalink

Thank you, Eric H, for being awesome!

a la bouquet marmoset (Austerity Ponies), Monday, 7 May 2012 16:27 (five years ago) Permalink

Eric, how many ballots have you received?

a la bouquet marmoset (Austerity Ponies), Monday, 7 May 2012 19:40 (five years ago) Permalink

I've received 37 ballots total, counting my own as well.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 7 May 2012 21:23 (five years ago) Permalink

make that 38.

second only to popcorn (or something), Monday, 7 May 2012 21:50 (five years ago) Permalink

come on, two more, people! nice round 40 would be a good voter base to work from. not that it makes much difference, really...

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Monday, 7 May 2012 22:03 (five years ago) Permalink

If people don't have the time to put together a ballot I would gladly email mine to them and they can submit it as their own

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Monday, 7 May 2012 22:07 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm excited for these results. I'm going to use them as inspiration for my 2012 It Came from Behind the Couch horror movie marathon.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Monday, 7 May 2012 22:20 (five years ago) Permalink

Although the turnout is a little disappointing, it should hopefully give some of the more oddball picks a chance to shine.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 7 May 2012 22:29 (five years ago) Permalink

If people don't have the time to put together a ballot I would gladly email mine to them and they can submit it as their own

― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Monday, May 7, 2012 5:07 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

Mine is available as well, with as much (or little) room as you want for adjustments and changes. Drag and drop! It's easy!

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Monday, 7 May 2012 23:09 (five years ago) Permalink

My votes are in now. Not that I've been able to give as much time and watching to this as I'd have liked.

Cragenham Craig (Craigo Boingo), Monday, 7 May 2012 23:37 (five years ago) Permalink

sent! god it feels good to finally remember to vote in one of these damn things.

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 00:28 (five years ago) Permalink

will probably hate my ballot in 20 minutes or less but at least it's off my desktop.

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 00:29 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm going to finally send in my ballot. I never noticed if there is a preferred format - I was going to do a numbered Google text doc, but could also do a Google spreadsheet.

Pita Malört (Je55e), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 00:37 (five years ago) Permalink

That seems like a dumb question now. I'm going to send a spreadsheet.

Pita Malört (Je55e), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 00:38 (five years ago) Permalink

Just finishing up, and I notice nobody nominated The Fall of the House of Usher. Bah. Perfectly happy to give its points to the Pit and the Pendulum, mind.

emil.y, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 00:39 (five years ago) Permalink

This is difficult.

Pita Malört (Je55e), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 00:54 (five years ago) Permalink

my list turned out like 33 percent canon, 33 percent childhood faves, 33 percent indefensible nonsense.

unlike ed3, i was surprised how many 21st century flicks showed.

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 00:57 (five years ago) Permalink

I think my list is relatively canon - I'm expecting the majority of my top ten to place, and place high.

Seeing as I did a decade breakdown of my ballot for the comedy poll, I figured it wouldn't be too spoilery to do one for this:

1920s - 2
1930s - 2
1940s - 1
1950s - 0
1960s - 16
1970s - 18
1980s - 9
1990s - 2
2000s - 0
2010s - 0

emil.y, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 01:09 (five years ago) Permalink

I submitted my ballot.

Pita Malört (Je55e), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 01:23 (five years ago) Permalink

My decade-by-decade breakdown:

50s - 2
60s - 2
70s - 10
80s - 22
90s - 7
00s - 7

Nothing from this decade, and the two most recent films in my top 15 are six and seventeen years old, respectively.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 01:52 (five years ago) Permalink

The old bell curve:

30s – 2
40s – 2
50s – 2
60s – 8
70s – 9
80s – 8
90s – 3
00s – 1

clemenza, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 02:03 (five years ago) Permalink

I guess I should submit a ballot for this

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 02:04 (five years ago) Permalink

lol

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 02:04 (five years ago) Permalink

OK, I'm not quite finished tabulating the ballots I have. It's still short of 50, but even if it weren't, I'm making this announcement official:

Balloting will be held open for at least another 36 hours and possibly longer if I feel lazy or generous.

Hence, I will still accept ballots provided they reach my inbox until 11 a.m. EST on Wednesday. Possibly a little longer, but I need to get st3v3 working on images so I can unveil the results starting next week.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 03:04 (five years ago) Permalink

This is like that slacker sculpture class I was in, where I felt accomplished for finishing at the last minute rather than (like half of the rest of the class) two weeks beyond deadline.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 03:21 (five years ago) Permalink

jeez, if we got another couple days, i wanna pull and rejigger my ballot. not a want in need of actualization though...

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 03:27 (five years ago) Permalink

So as if to sanctify the end of the horror poll, I went into a pawn shop tonight and they had an unopened copy of the 4 disc ultimate edition of dawn of the dead that was unpriced, and when I brought it up to the counter the kid just looked up "dawn of the dead" and charged me 99 cents.

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 03:47 (five years ago) Permalink

wow, nice!

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 03:52 (five years ago) Permalink

my favorites represent a pretty narrow window in time. what can i say, i like what i like...

1920s: 1
1930s: 1
1940s: 0
1950s: 2
1960s: 5
1970s: 14
1980s: 16
1990s: 3
2000s: 8
2010s: 0

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 03:52 (five years ago) Permalink

dunno why i gave such short shrift to the 60s and 90s, tbh

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 03:52 (five years ago) Permalink

i will disclose my decade by decade thing once all the votes are in so as not to tip my hand

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 04:00 (five years ago) Permalink

That's awesome, jjjusten. That set is a must.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 04:01 (five years ago) Permalink

i was pretty much ready and willing up to $25.

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 04:04 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah, that set is cool.

ballot sent! I hate it already.

original bgm, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 04:05 (five years ago) Permalink

Ballot sent, obvious omissions already piling up in my head, but whatever. Don't want to bother with decade count right now for all 50, but in my top 10, four are from the '70s, two each from the '60s and '80s, and one each from the '20s and '90s.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 04:07 (five years ago) Permalink

I had no guiding principle that I could articulate, but I was surprised how some movies I like and would have guessed were easy contenders for top 20 didn't make it onto my list of 50.

Pita Malört (Je55e), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 04:07 (five years ago) Permalink

It is no coincidence that a good chunk of my top 10 came out while I was between 8 and 14.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 04:08 (five years ago) Permalink

any thoughts on whther to start w/the extended or the european cut? pretty sure the one that i have seen is the american theatrical

also buying that set was another moment of horrible ballot facepalming for me because dawn of the dead didnt make it, although i love it

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 04:08 (five years ago) Permalink

just sent mine

sarahell, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 04:10 (five years ago) Permalink

My noms-by-decade. I didn't realize I repped for so many from the 00s. I guess it was a good era!

1920s - 2
1930s - 2
1940s - 0
1950s - 1
1960s - 8
1970s - 8
1980s - 12
1990s - 5
2000s - 12

fishermen are coveted by whores & stoners (Pillbox), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 04:14 (five years ago) Permalink

noms-by-decade - er, votes obv

fishermen are coveted by whores & stoners (Pillbox), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 04:19 (five years ago) Permalink

my favorites represent a pretty narrow window in time. what can i say, i like what i like...

my favorites are in the same window as yours!

sarahell, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 04:22 (five years ago) Permalink

was surprised by how lamestream my list turned out. i dig lots of the classics what can i say.

btw the director's cut of dawn of the dead is the one i usually go for but tbh that's mostly just bc it was the cut i played all the damn time on (double!) vhs in high school.

original bgm, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 04:27 (five years ago) Permalink

any thoughts on whther to start w/the extended or the european cut? pretty sure the one that i have seen is the american theatrical

extended

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 04:28 (five years ago) Permalink

my top 10 -

60s: 1
70s: 3
80s: 6

original bgm, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 04:30 (five years ago) Permalink

tbh that's mostly just bc it was the cut i played all the damn time on (double!) vhs in high school.

Yes! My rad zombie birthday in hs: Day and the double-down Dawn on VHS and the Zombies Heaven box set.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 04:45 (five years ago) Permalink

47 ballots in as of (almost) midnight. Very close to my own personal goal of 50!

I don't want to call any holdouts on this thread, and I won't. But there are a couple big holdouts I'll be disappointed to not see a ballot from, is all I'm saying.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 04:46 (five years ago) Permalink

(Though I draw the line at emailing them directly.)

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 04:48 (five years ago) Permalink

honestly, i think the best version of DotD is the unrated american theatrical original that you probably grew up with. moves, contains all the essential business, became a classic for a reason. extended version is a nice companion piece, but the movie was hardly a model of efficiency to begin with (unlike NotLD), so the extension does it no real favors. european version is cool too, but substantially different, reedited and rescored by argento, a curiosity.

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 04:48 (five years ago) Permalink

One argument for watching Argento's cut is that it lays the emotional and philosophical groundwork that gives one a richer appreciation of watching a zombie wrestle a shark.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 05:19 (five years ago) Permalink

(I would never in a million years claim that Zombi 2 is an even remotely good movie, but that particular scene is in the top 100 of film history.)

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 05:21 (five years ago) Permalink

and "they are going to eat you" is one of the better tag lines for a film

original bgm, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 05:28 (five years ago) Permalink

prob of interest to no-one but me, but some stats:

20s: 2
30s: 3
40s: 1
50s: 3
60s: 12
70s: 13
80s: 7
90s: 3
00s: 4
10s: 2

ended up selecting only 1 Val Lewton and 1 Dario Argento (which i'll probably come to regret). also, i have 2 pairs of originals/remakes (both of which are blindingly obvious b/c lol i'm not a horror stan) and several art-house chestnuts (again lol non-horror stan).

Nu Metal is the best music there is, the rest is pussy shit. (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 06:02 (five years ago) Permalink

Here's how mine broke down:

Celebrating, rather than dreading, difference: 25
Pausing to reflect on murder and the desecration it visits on societies: 10
Chaos theorems: 10
Camp: 15
Featuring buckets: 2
Allegories about repressed homosexuality: 1
Allegories about the terror Gen X faces growing up: 1
Allegories about Marxism (supposedly): 1
Starring Joan Crawford: 2
The loudest film ever made: 1

Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 06:35 (five years ago) Permalink

Holy shit this dawn of the dead transfer is O_O

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 06:45 (five years ago) Permalink

Celebrating, rather than dreading, difference: 25

lol, this is my favorite theme in horror. why i love stuart gordon's dagon so much. course that's dread leading to acceptance, not quite celebration, cept in my own private rituals, but still...

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 06:53 (five years ago) Permalink

I think my decade breakdown is:

1940s - 1
1960s - 6
1970s - 25
1980s - 9
1990s - 8
2000s - 1

Just like you, except hot (ShariVari), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 07:37 (five years ago) Permalink

Handed in my ballot last night, 8mins before my personal deadline at midnight CEST.

From my absolutely-definitely-must-see-before-voting-list posted way above I found the time to cover exactly: 0.
Whis is a pity cause some of them I suppose are candidates for my personal Top20 and I'm sure I will painfully regret the omission in more than one case.

Instead and of all possible stuff lying around I watched The Mephisto Waltz some days ago, oddball satanist/pianist thriller in the wake of Rosemary's Baby, with an incredibly (in a good way) corny Curd Jürgens and an almost equally (but in a bad way) corny Alan Alda.

Added it at the end of my ballot, for laughs, a rather good silvester-orgy scene and the sight of always delightful Jaqueline Bisset.

the europan nikon is here (grauschleier), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 09:13 (five years ago) Permalink

Breakdown by nationality

US 25
UK 15
Italy 2
1 each from Canada, Denmark, Sweden, France, Germany, Spain, Korea and Australia.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:35 (five years ago) Permalink

hey eric, can you just confirm that you got the two addendums to my ballot last night?

second only to popcorn (or something), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 11:15 (five years ago) Permalink

I ended up cutting some of the more avant-garde stuff from my ballot, sadly. I think my last ten were more for me to rep for some silly things that I have a lot of affection for. Regretting not voting for Street Trash now, too...

emil.y, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 12:19 (five years ago) Permalink

considered voting for street trash for its excellent melting sequences but then I remembered that long rape scene set to benny hill music

original bgm, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 12:26 (five years ago) Permalink

So as if to sanctify the end of the horror poll, I went into a pawn shop tonight and they had an unopened copy of the 4 disc ultimate edition of dawn of the dead that was unpriced, and when I brought it up to the counter the kid just looked up "dawn of the dead" and charged me 99 cents.

― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Tuesday, May 8, 2012 3:47 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

DO NOT WATCH THIS. IT IS CURSED.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 12:30 (five years ago) Permalink

I mean, what are you thinking?

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 12:30 (five years ago) Permalink

http://horrornews.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Friday_the_13th_TV_Series_3.jpg

If these people show up and ask for the movie back, GIVE IT TO THEM.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 12:32 (five years ago) Permalink

Instead and of all possible stuff lying around I watched The Mephisto Waltz some days ago, oddball satanist/pianist thriller in the wake of Rosemary's Baby, with an incredibly (in a good way) corny Curd Jürgens and an almost equally (but in a bad way) corny Alan Alda.

hah, just queued this and netflix recommended death bed: the bed that eats

original bgm, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 12:34 (five years ago) Permalink

hey eric, can you just confirm that you got the two addendums to my ballot last night?

I did. Thanks.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 12:36 (five years ago) Permalink

OK so my complete decade count goes as follows:

'20s: 1
'30s: 5
'40s: 2
'50s: 1
'60s: 9
'70s: 12
'80s: 12
'90s: 4
'00s: 4

Non-American: 21, of which 12 aren't in English

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 12:52 (five years ago) Permalink

(Three directors got 2 entries, other than that it's all one-offs.)

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 12:58 (five years ago) Permalink

Pretty sure my full country list would be a tad spoilery, so just gonna say:

UK: 16
US: 12
Non UK/US: 22

emil.y, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 13:20 (five years ago) Permalink

I saw Mephisto Waltz some years ago and it was kind of hilarious! I put that in the same category as Race with the Devil only the latter is way better on account of dirt bikes, "mobile home parks" and rituals. Neither of them appeal to me as much as Psychomania.

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 13:34 (five years ago) Permalink

Noooooooo! I forgot Psychomania! Bums...

emil.y, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 13:35 (five years ago) Permalink

I have ten on my list that could be considered non-US, I think. A couple of possible US/other country co-productions in there.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 13:44 (five years ago) Permalink

They all feature people with non-US accents and/or inept dubbing, so I'll say they count.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 13:45 (five years ago) Permalink

As I've indicated before, I was expected to read a lot of Robin Wood when I did a course on horror films in university. As I remember it, he only valued those films that questioned/undermined/subverted the dominant culture (the nuclear family, patriarchy, Christianity, etc.)...I hate writing this way; I managed to get it out of my system 25 years ago...and hated anything that reinforced/celebrated those things. With that in mind:

Films on my list Wood approved of, or I think he'd approve of: 23
Films he disapproved of, or I think he'd disapprove of: 8
Films that confound/blur his litmus test: 4

I just made those numbers up. I actually did start tabulating, but there was way too much thinking involved so I gave up.

clemenza, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 13:51 (five years ago) Permalink

I feel like there should be a separate thread for soundtracks to these movies because so many of them are SO GOOD.

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 13:53 (five years ago) Permalink

Not the least of which Wicker Man, obvs, but Blood on Satan's Claw, Carrie, Nosferatu...how could I possibly choose?!

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 13:56 (five years ago) Permalink

Valerie! That soundtrack is awesome.
Also why was Beyond the Valley of the Dolls not on here? Is that not horror enough? I should have written that one in just to have done it.

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 13:57 (five years ago) Permalink

Haha, I suppose it does have some horror tropes, but I'd consider it melodrama rather than horror, really. But then if it'd been nominated I'd have torn myself apart trying to decide whether to include it.

emil.y, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 14:17 (five years ago) Permalink

(Oh, yeah, I should point out my country list was worked out by imdb - I'd take the first country listed if there was more than one, and obviously some non-UK directors would be listed as UK and vice-versa depending on production etc...)

emil.y, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 14:18 (five years ago) Permalink

I think i have sixteen or seventeen Italian films on my list.

Vampyros Lesbos, Suspiria and The Wicker Man would be the predictable soundtrack picks from me but there are so many great ones that don't get enough love (Fabio Frizzi's Zombi 2 theme, Morricone's score for Who Saw Her Die?, etc).

Just like you, except hot (ShariVari), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 14:22 (five years ago) Permalink

I think some of you are going to judge the shit out of my ballot. That's okay, though. I like what I like.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 14:25 (five years ago) Permalink

I love the Creepshow soundtrack too, and Carnival of Souls, and The Shining, and I'm listening to Children of the Corn right now and guess what -- it's great.

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 14:26 (five years ago) Permalink

This seems like an unusual spread:

20s: 4
30s: 6
40s: 1
50s: 2
60s: 5
70s: 8
80s: 5
90s: 4
00s: 15

a la bouquet marmoset (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 14:29 (five years ago) Permalink

I think i have sixteen or seventeen Italian films on my list.

I was surprised by how few Italian films I had. I guess I was relatively ruthless about going 'nah, that's a giallo, I'll leave it off my ballot' (aside from when it came to Argento).

emil.y, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 14:29 (five years ago) Permalink

I don't know that I would've voted for it, but I definitely would've nominated Martha Marcy May Marlene if I'd seen it in time. It's very close to my ideal with respect to a very specific type of oblique not-quite-horror, wherein very little (or nothing) is shown but much is implied. As I mentioned before, I love the sort of "horror" (scare quotes due to this type of movie hardly ever being marketed as such) that strives to ease the viewer into the same off kilter headspace as the protagonist. The tension of the movie was driven by paranoia and implications of threat, and I wish more horror movies would go that route.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 14:37 (five years ago) Permalink

Oh man, Silent House was pretty good! Elizabeth Olsen is making a name for herself in that one role she keeps playing.

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 14:38 (five years ago) Permalink

And she might as well -- she's really good at it.

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 14:39 (five years ago) Permalink

i would kill all of you for a copy of the score to the original tcm.

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 14:41 (five years ago) Permalink

A relatively homogeneous decade split for me, apart from '70s peak and '90s dip:

30s: 8
40s: 5
50s: 5
60s: 6
70s: 14
80s: 6
90s: 1
00s: 5

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 14:42 (five years ago) Permalink

20s: 2
30s: 1
60s: 6
70s: 12
80s: 14
90s: 3
00s: 10
10s: 2

I won't do a country count because that will be a dead giveaway on a couple, but my list skews heavily American.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 14:57 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah i only wound up voting for three 90s films, and two of them were big budget slick mainstream some-might-argue-its-not-horror movies, and the other was an arty foreign thing by a noe hugely successful mainstream director. i dont remember it as a great decade for the genre, even tho its when i was consuming this stuff most rabidly.

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 15:14 (five years ago) Permalink

I had no idea I supported so many movies in the aughts. This has been a good millenia for horror movies.

a la bouquet marmoset (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 15:19 (five years ago) Permalink

More of the stats porn everybody loves: with the exception of '75, every year from '73 to '86 is represented in my top 25. '78-'82 seems to be a hot stretch, with ten of my top 25 falling in that range. There's a five year span ('87-'91) with no representatives in my top 25. Which is funny, because that was probably the time in my life (jr. high-ish) when I was most into horror. Although, yeah, I guess a lot of the stuff from that era was pretty shit.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 15:44 (five years ago) Permalink

funniest statlet about my ballot is that my top [number] are from the same year, but nothing else on my ballot is from that decade

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 16:12 (five years ago) Permalink

the other was an arty foreign thing by a noe

irreversible?

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 16:17 (five years ago) Permalink

Speaking of which - oh man, I forgot Innocence by Lucile Hadzihalilovic. Sorta horror? Eerie, nonetheless.

I serve at the pleasure of Dr. Dre and a team of Sorbonne scientists. (R Baez), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 16:21 (five years ago) Permalink

I feel like there should be a separate thread for soundtracks to these movies because so many of them are SO GOOD.

― former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Tuesday, May 8, 2012 9:53 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Seriously! I was already thinking the same thing... (I may have only seen like 20% of these movies but I've probably listened to 50% of their scores)

Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 16:26 (five years ago) Permalink

one I've been hunting for years is shock waves. great electronic score by richard einhorn, it turns up on blogs once every couple of years but I always seem to miss out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKgD0I-2PZg

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 16:38 (five years ago) Permalink

also strongo no need to hulk out here

http://www.mediafire.com/?dqs6t4yauqu68zu

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 16:39 (five years ago) Permalink

Edward, his score for Dead Of Winter got a CD release last year on the Kritzerland label but yeah Shock Waves seems to remain orphaned...

Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 16:40 (five years ago) Permalink

You guys need to check out La La Land records too -- they have good sales and a lot of oop horror sdtks. That's where I got Creepshow and May (which is really good btw!) among others.

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 16:59 (five years ago) Permalink

CDs, but better than nothing.

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 16:59 (five years ago) Permalink

I would wig out if someone could provide me with David Munrow's music from The Devils -- I don't think it's commercially available, is it? I've never found it.

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 17:01 (five years ago) Permalink

I don't know of any of Munrow's soundtrack work being available. I would really, really like his music for Zardoz too.

La La Land the record label also does tons of great reissues xpost.

Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 17:20 (five years ago) Permalink

I was wondering if I voted for any '90s films and then remembered I forgot to vote for Scream.

da croupier, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 17:55 (five years ago) Permalink

Speaking of La La Land, their latest 2 releases are pertinent to thread:

Coming Tuesday May 8, 2012 at 1 pm pst:

MOMMIE DEAREST
Music by Henry Mancini

La-La Land Records and Paramount Pictures present the world premiere release of Henry Mancini’s score to the cult classic MOMMIE DEAREST. This 51 minute presentation features the score as heard in the film, cues cut from the film, source cues and alternate tracks. With it’s grand sweeping themes and lush melodies that only Mancini can dish up this is a must buy Mother’s Day gift for all you Mother’s and “mutha’s” out there. wink Jeff Bond’s notes capture all the behind scenes antics of this Razzie Award winning classic! The movie might be one of those “it’s so bad it’s GOOD!” flicks but the one thing that is undeniably great is Mr. Mancini’s incredible score!

Continuing with our Mother’s Day theme. . .

ROSEMARY’S BABY
Music by Christopher Komeda

This definitive presentation of the Rosemary’s Baby score comes to you courtesy of La-La Land Records, Paramount Pictures and Universal Music Enterprises. Jam-packed with over 70 minutes of music this fantastic cd features the original soundtrack album, the film score, source music and a few bonus tracks. Neil Bulk and Chris Malone have performed miracles with their brilliant audio restoration of the film’s original mono tracks. In depth liners by Scott Bettencourt and John Takis take the listener behind the scenes of the film and the chilling score by one of cinema’s most underrated composers.

Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 18:12 (five years ago) Permalink

OMG!!

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 18:13 (five years ago) Permalink

I want/need both of those!

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 18:15 (five years ago) Permalink

I like these La-La Land Records people

a la bouquet marmoset (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 18:16 (five years ago) Permalink

I have made many nonregrettable impulse purchases from their website.

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 18:17 (five years ago) Permalink

Think Creepshow is the only purchase I've made from them so far, but it was incredibly worth it. (The only other horror site I've delved into so far is Fright Rags, but I didn't like the quality of the shirts they print on, unfor.)

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 18:40 (five years ago) Permalink

Oh yeah, love Creepshow sdtk!

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 18:45 (five years ago) Permalink

It's not actually on their site yet (that I can see) but today is the release date so i guess it will be up there by end of night.

Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 18:47 (five years ago) Permalink

Non-sold-out La La Land soundtrack releases which I urgently, urgently recommend:

-Haunted Summer (Christopher Young)
-The Mechanic (Jerry Fielding)
-Dragonslayer (Alex North)
-The Edge (Goldsmith)
-Dark Crystal (Trevor Jones)

Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 18:57 (five years ago) Permalink

Noooooooo may soundtrack is sold out

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:09 (five years ago) Permalink

Film score CDs are usually very limited edition affairs these days, lots of them sell out quickly.

Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:15 (five years ago) Permalink

i would kill all of you for a copy of the score to the original tcm.

― jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, May 8, 2012 10:41 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

also strongo no need to hulk out here

http://www.mediafire.com/?dqs6t4yauqu68zu

― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, May 8, 2012 12:39 PM (Yesterday)

listening to this tonight reminded me that my proudest moment as a musician was figuring out how to recreate the weird noise that goes off w/ the flashes in the opening graveyard scene

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 04:59 (five years ago) Permalink

nicely done - that is such an awesome, intriguing, foreboding noise!

fishermen are coveted by whores & stoners (Pillbox), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 05:06 (five years ago) Permalink

srsly, I was like archimedes in the bathtub when I made that discovery

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 05:13 (five years ago) Permalink

so are all ballots in then?!?

Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 05:56 (five years ago) Permalink

Hence, I will still accept ballots provided they reach my inbox until 11 a.m. EST on Wednesday. Possibly a little longer, but I need to get st3v3 working on images so I can unveil the results starting next week.

― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, May 7, 2012 11:04 PM (2 days ago)

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 06:19 (five years ago) Permalink

I was wrong about the number of ballots. It currently stands at 46.

As much as I kind of like the look of the results as they stand right now, I really want to reach 50 ballots. Come on people.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 06:36 (five years ago) Permalink

(No new ballots came in today as a result of the ballot extension, so I'm just hoping the tardy people are going to submit at the last second tomorrow.)

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 06:37 (five years ago) Permalink

Ballot sent. Regret not nominating:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N5FBXs1ZWw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wLUiQuT6rA

Simon H., Wednesday, 9 May 2012 07:21 (five years ago) Permalink

I'll have mine in this AM, if you can get morbz you'll be in spitting distance

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 12:41 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm not sure I can keep biting my tongue about the 2-ton elephant in the room that has not yet submitted a ballot (and, from all I gather, will not).

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 12:44 (five years ago) Permalink

he moves in mysterious ways

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 13:12 (five years ago) Permalink

(Ordered both those LLL soundtracks on impulse.)

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 13:25 (five years ago) Permalink

irony: I can't work on a ballot tonight bcz I have to write about Barnabas Collins.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 14:09 (five years ago) Permalink

I would really like to see your ballot, Morbz (not a euphemism).

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 14:12 (five years ago) Permalink

I think yours and emil.y's are going to have the most "things I not seen and need to see ASAP" value for me.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 14:13 (five years ago) Permalink

things I HAVE not seen, OBVIOUSLY. GOD.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 14:13 (five years ago) Permalink

How have I never known of the existence of "Miracle Mile" before this minute? Looks really fun.

Advanced Uncle Meat recovery system (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 14:31 (five years ago) Permalink

not a big fan of miracle mile but it does have rabid supporters out there. ending is kinda like whoa.

ballot sent...

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:07 (five years ago) Permalink

screening this month here

http://spectacletheater.com/shot-by-rybczynski#angst

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:11 (five years ago) Permalink

fuuuuuuuuu i woulda totally voted for angst

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:14 (five years ago) Permalink

ha, I did vote for angst. I think it was my one and only non-nommed vote, not sure how it slipped by.

it's at least 15 years ahead of its time in style and technique. wish the director would let the original cut be screened but he's gone all lucas on us.

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:36 (five years ago) Permalink

OK, I am now sitting at 49 ballots. I know I said I would close the polls about one half-hour from now, but I know there's got to be at least one more ballot sitting out there somewhere, right?

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:39 (five years ago) Permalink

hey look, that page the good doctor linked to offers a free download of the angst soundtrack!

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:41 (five years ago) Permalink

by klaus schulze!

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:43 (five years ago) Permalink

I think you should hold out for the magic number, Eric. To have accumulated one short of your stated goal & have to stop at that point.. you'd think morbs could at least eke out a quick top-20, right?

fishermen are coveted by whores & stoners (Pillbox), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:45 (five years ago) Permalink

can I just make up a ballot of every whale, tourner, and silent horror movie and submit it on morbs' behalf

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:46 (five years ago) Permalink

Can't get mine done for 36 hrs at least.

I happen to love Cronenberg's The Fly, smartypants

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:47 (five years ago) Permalink

I will wait for Morbs' ballot.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:49 (five years ago) Permalink

If anyone wants an extension beyond, oh, say the next couple hours, they need to state it explicitly in this thread.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:49 (five years ago) Permalink

i could vote twice if that would help, got all these sockpuppets lying around doing nothing.

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:52 (five years ago) Permalink

I am sending mine RIGHT NOW.

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:53 (five years ago) Permalink

Miracle Mile unnerved the shit outta me when I was 10.

Can't wait for Walter Chaw's upcoming book on the film.

Look at how funky he is! (jer.fairall), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 16:10 (five years ago) Permalink

I happen to love Cronenberg's The Fly, smartypants

― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, May 9, 2012 11:47 AM (21 minutes ago)

pffft I voted for the '58 version

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 16:11 (five years ago) Permalink

I will send you mine in abt 30 minutes!

Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 16:47 (five years ago) Permalink

When do you think the rollout will begin, Eric?

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 16:50 (five years ago) Permalink

You should be receiving a ballot from "Mustachioed Ponies" soon.

He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 17:07 (five years ago) Permalink

He will have a deep voice and will probably be wearing sunglasses and a trenchcoat.

He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 17:07 (five years ago) Permalink

chiming in re: Miracle Mile - fantastic movie, super-nihilistic ending is o_0

also parents going to eat pastrami before they die

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 17:11 (five years ago) Permalink

I can do another ballot where I remember Vampyr and Night of the Hunter.

Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 17:12 (five years ago) Permalink

I was originally aiming to rollout starting next Monday, but I think I'll need an extra day or two to gather some quotes. Haven't even started that yet.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 17:22 (five years ago) Permalink

I figure groups of 15 over seven days (last day = 10) should be grand.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 17:23 (five years ago) Permalink

I would very much like Morbs to get in a ballot, as I'm hoping he might bump up some of the older stuff (not an age joke). Although I'd like oddities to make it in, and I don't really give a shit about established canon, I'll definitely be annoyed if there's barely anything pre-50s...

emil.y, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 17:30 (five years ago) Permalink

Just sent mine. I hope I listed them correctly-- 50. is my favorite, 49. is my second favorite, 1. is my least fave out of these 50, etc.

Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 17:38 (five years ago) Permalink

It's crazy how many of my all-time favorite movies on the list I had to disallow for not being horror by my compass.

Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 17:39 (five years ago) Permalink

It's crazy how many of my all-time favorite movies are horror.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 17:40 (five years ago) Permalink

Ha yeah. My top three aren't just my favorite horror movies; they're my favorite movies.

I think I forgot Night of the Hunter! After all that talk. Sheesh.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 17:44 (five years ago) Permalink

^^^^ otm!!!! i hadn't realized that before i made this list, but yes.
life is horrifying, people are terrible, and horror movies are the best.

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 17:45 (five years ago) Permalink

multiple people who forgot NotH are getting me down ;_;

He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 17:46 (five years ago) Permalink

I didn't forget it, and it's an all-time fave, but I had to disallow it.

Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 17:49 (five years ago) Permalink

I *still* haven't seen it.

emil.y, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 17:52 (five years ago) Permalink

Oh gosh I envy you!

Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 18:00 (five years ago) Permalink

I can feel myself gettin' awful mad. I'm out of patience, children.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/936full-the-night-of-the-hunter-poster.jpg

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 18:06 (five years ago) Permalink

send... more... cops

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/rotld.jpg

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 18:11 (five years ago) Permalink

I would very much like Morbs to get in a ballot, as I'm hoping he might bump up some of the older stuff (not an age joke). Although I'd like oddities to make it in, and I don't really give a shit about established canon, I'll definitely be annoyed if there's barely anything pre-50s...

― emil.y, Wednesday, May 9, 2012 1:30 PM (54 minutes ago)

agree w/ all this. tho there are over 10 canon films from the 60s/70s I dropped from my ballot to make room for other stuff, my breakdown by decade still looks like:

20s - 2
30s - 2
40s - 1
50s - 3
60s - 7
70s - 18
80s - 8
90s - 5
00s - 4

apparently 1973 was the most horrifying year on record, and, with one off-the-wall exception, all my post 80s picks ended up being non-US.

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 18:46 (five years ago) Permalink

kino's blu-ray of ganja and hess came out yesterday. one of my last ballot cuts.

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 19:23 (five years ago) Permalink

Burton's Dark Shadows is set in 1972, which explains why it's not horrifying I guess.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 19:29 (five years ago) Permalink

It's crazy how many of my all-time favorite movies are horror.

― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, May 9, 2012 10:40 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ha yeah. My top three aren't just my favorite horror movies; they're my favorite movies.

I think I forgot Night of the Hunter! After all that talk. Sheesh.

― Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, May 9, 2012 10:44 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^^ otm!!!! i hadn't realized that before i made this list, but yes.
life is horrifying, people are terrible, and horror movies are the best.

― former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Wednesday, May 9, 2012 10:45 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol, yeah, there isn't much difference between my "favorite horror movies" list and my "favorite movies" list, thought the former doesn't include like the philadelphia story and repo man.

i did not forget to vote for night of the hunter

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 21:20 (five years ago) Permalink

Man. Listening to Mancini's score to Lifeforce right now and it's so damn good. Meant to see the movie in time for this poll, but a long visit from the mother-in-law prevented that. Maybe I'd have ended up with three Tobe Hooper joints on my ballot instead of two...

Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:28 (five years ago) Permalink

Sweet. I wondered if anyone else voted for Spontaneous Combustion and The Mangler.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:34 (five years ago) Permalink

OK, I'm calling it. Balloting is officially closed ...

UNLESS you can provide me a compelling excuse for your tardy ballot while I await Morbs' ballot, which I granted an extension. If I like your story enough and you're reasonably hasty, I'll let it slide.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 10 May 2012 04:35 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm just waiting to see which Rest Stop movie will place higher.

I serve at the pleasure of Dr. Dre and a team of Sorbonne scientists. (R Baez), Thursday, 10 May 2012 04:43 (five years ago) Permalink

54 ballots, btw ... not counting the one I gave the extension.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 10 May 2012 04:45 (five years ago) Permalink

congrats + thx

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 10 May 2012 04:51 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah - thanks!

I serve at the pleasure of Dr. Dre and a team of Sorbonne scientists. (R Baez), Thursday, 10 May 2012 05:01 (five years ago) Permalink

54 ballots, btw

COT DAMN!

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 May 2012 05:16 (five years ago) Permalink

yall voted for canibal holocaust like that shit was fucked up

partytime, Thursday, 10 May 2012 10:56 (five years ago) Permalink

Balloting is officially closed...

Who will survive and what will be left of them?

clemenza, Thursday, 10 May 2012 11:54 (five years ago) Permalink

54! Thanks, E

He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 10 May 2012 13:20 (five years ago) Permalink

54 is good, definitely.

emil.y, Thursday, 10 May 2012 13:29 (five years ago) Permalink

I think the results have their fair share of happy surprises, though one or two of them are going to test my ability to remain neutral as the "host."

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 10 May 2012 13:32 (five years ago) Permalink

Ha ha. Those are the kinds of hints I like to hear.

Speaking of hints, could you maybe just throw us a bone and, I dunno, post the entirety of the results thus far? I mean just real quick. Thanks so much!

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 10 May 2012 13:38 (five years ago) Permalink

And as the "host", you really deserve a moniker befitting the role, yeah? Like Uncle Putrid or The Casketmaker or somesuch.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 10 May 2012 13:40 (five years ago) Permalink

one or two of them are going to test my ability to remain neutral as the "host."

Surely that should be "one or two of them are going to test my ability to remain neutral as The Host"?

emil.y, Thursday, 10 May 2012 13:40 (five years ago) Permalink

LOL, oh man, I should roll each and every result out in the style of an EC host. That could get tiresome after the first seven or eight.

"Welcome back, my little BORES and GHOULS. I see you've come LURCHING back for another DRIPPY DOSE of TOOTHSOME TERROR. If BLOOD is what you crave, then SHARPEN up your FANGS for this CUTTING ENTRY in our countdown ... or should I say, COUNT-DRACULA-DOWN?"

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 10 May 2012 13:45 (five years ago) Permalink

THAT WOULD BE AMAZING.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 10 May 2012 13:46 (five years ago) Permalink

YES!

emil.y, Thursday, 10 May 2012 13:48 (five years ago) Permalink

PLEASE

He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 10 May 2012 13:48 (five years ago) Permalink

Putrid puns just seemed to come so easy to writers in the '50s.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 10 May 2012 13:51 (five years ago) Permalink

Suggested personas for host:

http://images.mylot.com/userImages/images/postphotos/2117676.jpg

clemenza, Thursday, 10 May 2012 13:57 (five years ago) Permalink

Surprisingly few pictures of Grandpa Fred from Gremlins 2. Bah.

emil.y, Thursday, 10 May 2012 14:13 (five years ago) Permalink

<3

emil.y, Thursday, 10 May 2012 14:30 (five years ago) Permalink

"What does a menswear makeover cost in Manhattan today? Join us!"

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 10 May 2012 14:31 (five years ago) Permalink

hey guys i started a thread for horror soundtracks horror soundtracks

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 10 May 2012 14:54 (five years ago) Permalink

Sorry for the size, but a shout-out to Forrest J. Ackerman.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/12/05/forrest_ackerman.jpg

clemenza, Thursday, 10 May 2012 14:56 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm actually a DEAD ringer for:

http://www.razorbackrecords.com/images/unclecreepy.gif

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:07 (five years ago) Permalink

Indiana's own:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_gmzIXMMWrsI/TFsm27LOlPI/AAAAAAAADgY/klaD5V0HbSM/s400/sammy02.jpg

There's at least one website out there dedicated to obsessively cataloguing all of these horror hosts (aka doing God's work).

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:08 (five years ago) Permalink

The more you know: Ghoulardi (or one of the Ghoulardis) was Paul Thomas Anderson's dad.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:11 (five years ago) Permalink

Uh oh. Sorry to rain on your parade, folks, but this poll has already been done: It's Official! The Results Of The Best Movies Of The Century Poll Are Now In!

Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:11 (five years ago) Permalink

oh man theres a doc out about regional horror hosts that i cant remember the name of. its long and kind of overstays its welcome so this is not a glowing recommendation, but lemme see if i can figure out what it was. netflix streaming fyi, at least the last time i checked.

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:17 (five years ago) Permalink

American Scary. not a great title but hey

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:20 (five years ago) Permalink

http://americanscary.com/

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:21 (five years ago) Permalink

Ahhhh. I saw that was streaming and didn't realize what it was. I'll probably check it out despite your not-quite-a-recommendation. Love stuff like that.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:28 (five years ago) Permalink

Being a regional horror host would probably be my dream job.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:33 (five years ago) Permalink

You would be SO good at it too.

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:33 (five years ago) Permalink

!!!

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:33 (five years ago) Permalink

Thanks! Maybe I'll call Svengoolie and see if he's got any openings for an apprentice.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:35 (five years ago) Permalink

It is about time for him to start considering his legacy...

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:39 (five years ago) Permalink

These folks have been doing a beatnik-schtick thing out of Buffalo called "Off Beat Cinema" for the past 15 or 20 years. It's about half bad horror films. They're a little scary, but not in the Texas Chainsaw Massacre sense.

http://artvoice.com/issues/v6n44/see_you_there/off_beat_cinema_now_dig_this_daddio/off_beat_cinema

clemenza, Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:44 (five years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im74bBeOT74

i wish that a TV horror would use this as a theme song.

Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:49 (five years ago) Permalink

"Pet Sematary"'s my favourite late-period song from them. (xpost)

clemenza, Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:50 (five years ago) Permalink

xp also played this guy (for afterschool kids' shows):

http://kidshow.dcmemories.com/DDC20-3a_640.jpg

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:52 (five years ago) Permalink

I hear they don't want to be buried in one.

xpost

Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:52 (five years ago) Permalink

LOL, oh man, I should roll each and every result out in the style of an EC host. That could get tiresome after the first seven or eight.

"Welcome back, my little BORES and GHOULS. I see you've come LURCHING back for another DRIPPY DOSE of TOOTHSOME TERROR. If BLOOD is what you crave, then SHARPEN up your FANGS for this CUTTING ENTRY in our countdown ... or should I say, COUNT-DRACULA-DOWN?"

― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, May 10, 2012 1:45 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

can I just say that, for me, this would never get old and I would laugh at it every single time

original bgm, Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:41 (five years ago) Permalink

I think Eric's made a rod for his own back, here. There will be 'PLAINTS if he doesn't do it now.

emil.y, Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:46 (five years ago) Permalink

wth happened in here

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:47 (five years ago) Permalink

thresholds attained, pacts sworn, ghouls celebrated

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:48 (five years ago) Permalink

can I just say that, for me, this would never get old and I would laugh at it every single time

^^^^ been going through my stack of old EC comics lately, plz don't let us down here

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:49 (five years ago) Permalink

altho tbrr I would also be okay with just accompanying every entry with a pic of Elvira

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:49 (five years ago) Permalink

i just almost started a horror movie documentary thread, but i thought i might be horror burdening up the boards a bit - is there a thread for docs about movies on here somewhere?

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:50 (five years ago) Permalink

The best things come to those who MUTATE!

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:51 (five years ago) Permalink

prompted by thinking abt american scary and watching one of the DawnOTD docs last night. also by being really excited by this poll.

xpost nice, v nice

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:52 (five years ago) Permalink

Gonna have to save any other ones that come to mind if I'ma get my Old Witch on in the results thread.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:54 (five years ago) Permalink

I would like results announced in the manner of the doddery old composer-haired wizard from that one episode of Boris Karloff's Thriller.

Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:57 (five years ago) Permalink

ASHTAROTH!!!

Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:58 (five years ago) Permalink

Another thing I failed to vote for because I remembered too late :(

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_m_yEp4yvWQY/TLcyCDHTcTI/AAAAAAAAW1o/9UZ3ihFpfFg/s320/0.jpg

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:08 (five years ago) Permalink

prepubescent pagan princess!

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:09 (five years ago) Permalink

crowhaven farm was one of my late ballot cuts, feel like when this is over we need to have a TV horror movie poll

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:10 (five years ago) Permalink

yes, then sybil and harvest home can finally get the respect they deserve

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:12 (five years ago) Permalink

if we ever do a tv horror movie poll i am going to stan for a killer scarecrow movie that i cant quite remember the name of at the moment SO HARD

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:17 (five years ago) Permalink

Dark Night of the Scarecrow! I finally figured out the name

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:19 (five years ago) Permalink

it's in the nom list dude!

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:20 (five years ago) Permalink

langoliers #1

the acquisition and practice of music is unfavourable to the health of (abanana), Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:22 (five years ago) Permalink

fuuuuuuuuuck no really

god damn it

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:22 (five years ago) Permalink

i would have totally voted for that if i had remembered the name oh a week ago or so (although to be fair i havent seen it since i was a kid so i might be giving it too much credit)

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:25 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I knocked off a couple movies that I thought were kind of cool as a kid: Gargoyles & Devil Dog

I remember the first part of Gargoyles being pretty scary though. I'm not gooing to rewatch it and ruin that memory.

He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:29 (five years ago) Permalink

My fondest TV horror movie is Salem's Lot, which scared the everloving shit out of me at age seven (wtf were my parents thinking?). The scene with the knuckleheads driving the van with the coffin in the back… yikes!

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:32 (five years ago) Permalink

Maybe we should start a Kindertrauma thread about too early childhood exposure to horror movies.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:33 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah i managed to see poltergeist when it came out (i was 9) and it fucked me up for weeks

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:43 (five years ago) Permalink

which in retrospect i also should have voted for but my self-imposed voting rules wouldn't allow it

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:44 (five years ago) Permalink

jjjusten hates little people. he didn't vote for fire walk with me either.

He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:32 (five years ago) Permalink

I saw Heavy Metal when I was five. MIND. BLOWN. Lots of other equally-inappropriate examples if I took the time to remember them.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:38 (five years ago) Permalink

I sometimes think my entire personality was formed by seeing things I shouldn't have at too young an age.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:39 (five years ago) Permalink

Have any of y'all ever seen The Reincarnation Of Peter Proud?

Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:43 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah. for some reason I always mix it up with the possession of joel delaney.

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:00 (five years ago) Permalink

the x of first name last name was a thing I guess

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:01 (five years ago) Permalink

so where's the results already

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:01 (five years ago) Permalink

settle down there pardner, gonna start rolling out next week

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:11 (five years ago) Permalink

Was it any good?

Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:30 (five years ago) Permalink

jjjusten hates little people. he didn't vote for fire walk with me either.

― He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, May 10, 2012 8:32 PM (1 hour ago)

LIES. in fact i voted for a movie with one of those little people in it. just not either of those.

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:36 (five years ago) Permalink

you voted for skinned deep?

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 May 2012 22:31 (five years ago) Permalink

Willow, I'd imagine.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 10 May 2012 22:32 (five years ago) Permalink

Even Dwarves Started Small is pretty horrifying

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 22:33 (five years ago) Permalink

i would have totally voted for that [dark night of the scarecrow] if i had remembered the name oh a week ago or so (although to be fair i havent seen it since i was a kid so i might be giving it too much credit)

OTM! i did remember it, but had the same reservations about the accuracy of my childhood recollections. and i didn't want to waste a vote. i do remember that they hyped the hell out of it in the weeks leading up, so i was super-excited to see it. 14 at the time, so it didn't really mess me up, but it was scary and cool (iirc). final scene still haunts me.

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 May 2012 22:35 (five years ago) Permalink

Even Dwarves Started Small always felt just a shade off seventies decadent Euro-horror. Like all it needs is three seconds of girls making out and it'd be there.

I serve at the pleasure of Dr. Dre and a team of Sorbonne scientists. (R Baez), Thursday, 10 May 2012 22:40 (five years ago) Permalink

Is there a horror movie where a little person get's stabbed to death and then shot out of a cannon into a wood chipper? If so, that's probably the one jjjusten voted for because he hates the wee.

He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 11 May 2012 14:38 (five years ago) Permalink

Can't abide-a-wee

Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Friday, 11 May 2012 16:00 (five years ago) Permalink

Results will begin next week, likely Tuesday or Wednesday. It'll be a seven-day unveil of six installments of 15 and then the top 10.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Friday, 11 May 2012 16:06 (five years ago) Permalink

Er, KIDDIES!

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Friday, 11 May 2012 16:06 (five years ago) Permalink

slow jammin'

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, 11 May 2012 16:11 (five years ago) Permalink

eric is allowing sufficient time for us to moan when taxi driver and inception place

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, 11 May 2012 16:13 (five years ago) Permalink

Trying to figure out how to soften the blow.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Friday, 11 May 2012 16:14 (five years ago) Permalink

np it's the horror poll we like to be shocked

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, 11 May 2012 16:15 (five years ago) Permalink

if the results can leap out from the bottom right corner of the screen with a sting cue that would be great

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, 11 May 2012 16:16 (five years ago) Permalink

I'll use the threat to establish lateral and/or neutral space, a la Carpenter.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Friday, 11 May 2012 16:17 (five years ago) Permalink

Maybe we should start a Kindertrauma thread about too early childhood exposure to horror movies.

― Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Thursday, May 10, 2012 2:33 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Some of my earliest scares were: The Bad Seed, Whatever Happened To Baby Jane and A Bucket Of Blood. Interesting to me, re-watching them as an adult, the levels of black humor and camp at work in these three.

Advanced Uncle Meat recovery system (Dan Peterson), Friday, 11 May 2012 18:02 (five years ago) Permalink

When I was 6 or 7, there was a moment in Disney's Blackbeard's Ghost--a painting of a woman where you could see the eyes move--that terrified me. The Green Slime frightened me around the same time. The bar for scaring me has always been about as low as it gets.

clemenza, Friday, 11 May 2012 18:07 (five years ago) Permalink

The movie that fucked me up most as a kid (mentioned for, like, the fiftieth time): Testament.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 11 May 2012 18:32 (five years ago) Permalink

My ultimate kindertrauma was when my idiot babysitter (a grown up! Not some dumb teenager!) let me watch The Excorcist on TV when I was ten. That was a long sleepless night of lying awake in bed, waiting for the devil to come and possess me. (She also let me watch The Deerhunter.)

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Friday, 11 May 2012 18:34 (five years ago) Permalink

Trilogy Of Terror is on my ballot solely due to chittering doll kindertrauma, I have never gone near that flick again.

Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Friday, 11 May 2012 18:36 (five years ago) Permalink

TV commercial for Amityville Horror literally ruined me for 2-3 years

Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Friday, 11 May 2012 18:37 (five years ago) Permalink

I probably mentioned this elsewhere but my most traumatic TV childhood experience was seeing this, age 9 (20 minutes of your time but worth sticking with it) :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slJyhOEo-SY

A++++++ would deal with again (Matt #2), Friday, 11 May 2012 18:38 (five years ago) Permalink

Can we plz refrain from posting our ballots until after the reveal?

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Friday, 11 May 2012 18:40 (five years ago) Permalink

i was more traumatized as a youth by small wonder than by any horror film.

Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Friday, 11 May 2012 18:59 (five years ago) Permalink

man britishers in the 70s sure liked to mess up their kids w/ heavy equipment

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, 11 May 2012 19:14 (five years ago) Permalink

Safety through PTSD.

He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 11 May 2012 19:36 (five years ago) Permalink

i am glad battle royale wasn't nominated, at least

the acquisition and practice of music is unfavourable to the health of (abanana), Friday, 11 May 2012 21:09 (five years ago) Permalink

<3<3<3 battle royale, tho have never thought of it as a horror movie at all tbh

fishermen are coveted by whores & stoners (Pillbox), Saturday, 12 May 2012 03:31 (five years ago) Permalink

SENT

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 12 May 2012 15:36 (five years ago) Permalink

FINALLY. Hopefully in future, you'll get your priorities straight and put ILX polls before work.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 12 May 2012 15:47 (five years ago) Permalink

Balloting is now officially, irreparably closed.

The ballot I was anticipating but afaik never received was Mr. Hal Jam's. :(

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Saturday, 12 May 2012 15:51 (five years ago) Permalink

Aw, shame. But at least you got Morbs'.

emil.y, Saturday, 12 May 2012 15:57 (five years ago) Permalink

the other thing wasn't work, either

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 12 May 2012 15:59 (five years ago) Permalink

As I'm tabulating the results, I can already see Morbs' ballot ousted something from the top 5 I really wanted to be in the top 5. Such wonton destructivism.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Saturday, 12 May 2012 16:04 (five years ago) Permalink

(Hint: It was Troll 2.)

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Saturday, 12 May 2012 16:05 (five years ago) Permalink

DAMN IT. Well, as long as Troll is still a contender.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 12 May 2012 16:16 (five years ago) Permalink

;_; troll 2

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Saturday, 12 May 2012 21:49 (five years ago) Permalink

there's only one of eli roth's top 5 horror movies that i'd want to see come in top 5 here, and it doesn't have the word troll in the title

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Saturday, 12 May 2012 21:51 (five years ago) Permalink

You don't know what you're missing if you haven't seen Cannibal Comptroller.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 12 May 2012 22:02 (five years ago) Permalink

i pretty much saw everything in my top ten (save two) before i was emotionally ready for them.

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Saturday, 12 May 2012 22:51 (five years ago) Permalink

the first movie to ever truly scare the bejeezus out of me was pinocchio at age 3 or 4 though. apparently i was howling so bad by the monstro scene my mom dragged me out and then i started complaining that she had dragged me out.

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Saturday, 12 May 2012 22:53 (five years ago) Permalink

Are we allowed to talk about things we're still catching up on because of the poll? Because I just watched The Sentinel on netflix insta and loved it. It was a LOT more bent than I was expecting, with a ridiculous cast (very young C Walken and J Goldblum and C Sarandon PLUS william dickey and eli wallach and Jerry Orbach are you fkin kiddin' me?) and a really superbly protean score from Gil Melle.

Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:11 (five years ago) Permalink

You are forgetting Beverly D'Angelo in the role of a lifetime.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:56 (five years ago) Permalink

Hahaha yesssssss

Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:59 (five years ago) Permalink

the first movie to ever truly scare the bejeezus out of me was pinocchio at age 3 or 4 though. apparently i was howling so bad by the monstro scene my mom dragged me out and then i started complaining that she had dragged me out.

― jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Saturday, May 12, 2012 6:53 PM

same here but mine was fantasia... night on bald mountain!

I also begged to go see grizzly when I was 5 and the first kill scene freaked me out so much we ended up in the next theater watching the bad news bears

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Sunday, 13 May 2012 16:16 (five years ago) Permalink

Are we allowed to talk about things we're still
catching up on because of the poll? Because I
just watched The Sentinel on netflix insta and
loved it. It was a LOT more bent than I was
expecting, with a ridiculous cast (very young C
Walken and J Goldblum and C Sarandon PLUS
william dickey and eli wallach and Jerry Orbach
are you fkin kiddin' me?) and a really superbly
protean score from Gil Melle.

plus ava gardner and BURGESS MEREDITH!

yeah this movie rules. v underrated. "woman finds out her apt is a portal to hell" is a great premise too.

also, i don't scare particularly easy when watching movies but i thought it had some genuinely creepy moments.

didnt realize melle did the score! thats the andromeda strain guy, right? don't remember the score too well tbh.

original bgm, Sunday, 13 May 2012 17:07 (five years ago) Permalink

I can already see Morbs' ballot ousted something from the top 5 I really wanted to be in the top 5.

My life is complete!

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 13 May 2012 18:14 (five years ago) Permalink

Because I just watched The Sentinel on netflix insta and loved it. It was a LOT more bent than I was expecting, with a ridiculous cast (very young C Walken and J Goldblum and C Sarandon PLUS william dickey and eli wallach and Jerry Orbach are you fkin kiddin' me?) and a really superbly protean score from Gil Melle.

― Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Sunday, May 13, 2012 8:11 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, it's great, right? so sleazy and creepy, plus excellent music, makeup effects by dick smith. i wanted to talk about it in the nominations thread, but forgot. didn't vote for it, but it was in the running.

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Sunday, 13 May 2012 19:35 (five years ago) Permalink

sonned with a batted ball by Turner this time!

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 13 May 2012 20:02 (five years ago) Permalink

whoops, though this was Baseball

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 13 May 2012 20:02 (five years ago) Permalink

Ha... I just added The Sentinel on netflix just to find this note at the top of my queue:

"Birdemic: Shock and Terror has been removed from your Queue. We no longer offer this movie for rental. We apologize for the inconvenience and hope you find many other movies to enjoy at Netflix."

Do they do this with all movies? Kind of cracked me up that they singled it out and made a to do about it.

Darin, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:38 (five years ago) Permalink

I kinda dug what The Sentinel was trying to achieve more than I dug the results. Plus, I always dig Cristina Raines.

Bob Bop Perano (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 14 May 2012 02:29 (five years ago) Permalink

Is today the day? I was looking for a good tagline to set the mood, and found these three lists:

http://horror.about.com/od/horrortoppicklists/a/50besttaglines.htm
http://www.mania.com/15-horror-movie-taglines_article_126010.html
http://moviecultists.com/2009/10/28/the-top-13-best-horror-movie-taglines/

Not one of them listed "Pray for Rosemary's Baby," which is surely up near the top.

clemenza, Monday, 14 May 2012 11:33 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm aiming for a Wednesday debut. Is there a tagline about patience?

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 14 May 2012 12:10 (five years ago) Permalink

"To avoid fainting, keep repeating: 'Patience is a virtue, patience is a virtue..."

clemenza, Monday, 14 May 2012 12:14 (five years ago) Permalink

"There's only one thing wrong with the Davis baby: it's alive." - this one is the creepiest, I think. So evocative.

Also like: "Man is the warmest place to hide."

This one, however, is a horror in its own right, so tortured and mangled is its grammar: "Please do not disturb Evelyn. She already is."

emil.y, Monday, 14 May 2012 13:44 (five years ago) Permalink

Did I already mention my favourite tagline-searching-for-a-film on this thread? Will offer it up for the Ilx Horror Movie:

"What they don't know... WILL EAT THEM"

emil.y, Monday, 14 May 2012 13:47 (five years ago) Permalink

oh that's a winner right there

i am psyched about horror movies + exam week

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Monday, 14 May 2012 13:57 (five years ago)