The Official Newscorp/UK end of season finale/Rebekah Brooks did 9/11 thread

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tpp, Friday, 15 July 2011 13:10 (six years ago) Permalink

lool

so brycey (history mayne), Friday, 15 July 2011 13:18 (six years ago) Permalink

'i'm not afraid of heights, snakes, or red-headed women'

so brycey (history mayne), Friday, 15 July 2011 13:19 (six years ago) Permalink

Is it just me or does KRM look like the unseen hand is doing a five-finger Umbro shuffle?

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 15 July 2011 13:19 (six years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/M0Jlr.jpg

TRIBAL BRAH

nakhchivan, Friday, 15 July 2011 13:57 (six years ago) Permalink

Uh? Via the Telegraph:

14.49 Barack Obama is expected to break his silence on the phone scandal this afternoon. Stay tuned for more.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 14:08 (six years ago) Permalink

TRIBAL BRAH

When James Murdoch was a hip-hop mogul

James Mitchell, Friday, 15 July 2011 14:12 (six years ago) Permalink

that's lachlan tho, guessing his boutique psytrance label didn't get bought by pops

nakhchivan, Friday, 15 July 2011 14:13 (six years ago) Permalink

It's hard to tell these wealthy white boys apart, with all their tattoos and suits and board positions.

James Mitchell, Friday, 15 July 2011 14:25 (six years ago) Permalink

I wouldn't want someone jailed if they lobbed a bin at my car whilst I was driving it, but I'd definitely want some sort of punishment that would be more than a mild inconvenience to them

if someone threw a bin at a human being in a car i think it wd be naughty but in this case

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 July 2011 15:05 (six years ago) Permalink

Rupert Murdoch is very sad:

We are sorry.

The News of the World was in the business of holding others to account. It failed when it came to itself.

We are sorry for the serious wrongdoing that occurred.

We are deeply sorry for the hurt suffered by the individuals affected.

We regret not acting faster to sort things out.

I realise that simply apologising is not enough.

Our business was founded on the idea that a free and open press should be a positive force in society. We need to live up to this.

In the coming days, as we take further concrete steps to resolve these issues and make amends for the damage they have caused, you will hear more from us.

Sincerely,

Rupert Murdoch

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 15:10 (six years ago) Permalink

Grovelling little bastard

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 15 July 2011 15:11 (six years ago) Permalink

Oh and apparently Cameron had Coulson over for tea or something two months after the latter resigned. Bros, kicking back.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 15:11 (six years ago) Permalink

Everyone deserves a third chance

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 15 July 2011 15:13 (six years ago) Permalink

hope he's got the same idea of "taking concrete steps" as me

this planit is socked up and dave is a cul ringmaster (DJ Mencap), Friday, 15 July 2011 15:17 (six years ago) Permalink

16.14 Rupert Murdoch is meeting the family of Milly Dowler, the murdered schoolgirl whose voicemail was hacked into by the News of the World, BBC News reports.

"No, really, I insist, please take all this money."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 15:19 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah they seem quite happy to support the super soaraway lying cunt

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 July 2011 15:19 (six years ago) Permalink

16.20 More on that meeting between Rupert Murdoch and the Dowlers. BBC News reporting that the meeting at a central London hotel was arranged hastily this morning, with the Dowlers told: "Rupert wants to meet you".
They were said to be desperate not to be used as an instrument of spin but still agreed to the meeting. Murdoch was wearing a full suit this afternoon as he went into the hotel, a change from the tracksuits and casual wear we've seen him in this week.

Really, really wish he had gone in in the tracksuit.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 15:23 (six years ago) Permalink

And that ad as it will run:

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Media/Pix/pictures/2011/7/15/1310742686365/Rupert-Murdoch-ad-001.jpg

WE ARE SORRY plzleaveusalone

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 15:25 (six years ago) Permalink

they should get Morrissey to release "Suedehead '11" for this

she choots, she pah! (DJP), Friday, 15 July 2011 15:26 (six years ago) Permalink

OK, soz, thxbye.

Mark G, Friday, 15 July 2011 15:27 (six years ago) Permalink

xpost -- that would make the final lines a little...weird.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 15:28 (six years ago) Permalink

16.29 A little more detail is coming from Downing St about Andy Coulson's stay at Chequers in March. He was invited to dinner and to stay overnight as a "thank you for his work" before his resignation in January.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 15:32 (six years ago) Permalink

i smell a slash fiction genre

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 July 2011 15:33 (six years ago) Permalink

the most terrifying of smells

Spotify, Spotify me (DJP), Friday, 15 July 2011 15:34 (six years ago) Permalink

Slash *is* the genre. The term you are looking for is "pairing".

Karen D. Tregaskin, Friday, 15 July 2011 15:34 (six years ago) Permalink

sorry K i knew it was badly worded

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 July 2011 15:35 (six years ago) Permalink

the most terrifying of smells

At the least, rather moist.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 15:36 (six years ago) Permalink

At Dave’s house Andy listened to the message with a smile on his face. Soon enough Dave would know all about the Game. Andy felt himself harden at the thought of what lay ahead for them both, not just tonight but over the weekend to come.

Andy’s hand slipped down inside his pants, grabbing his cock and gently pulling his hand along its engorged length. He moaned at the sensations flooding his body. Preparing for what was to come had made him so sexually charged he could have climaxed right there and then.

Stop that, he told himself, there is still so much to do before Dave gets back, everything must be perfect. Reluctantly Andy released his hand from his cock and went back to work.

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 July 2011 15:36 (six years ago) Permalink

Stop that

otm

Spotify, Spotify me (DJP), Friday, 15 July 2011 15:37 (six years ago) Permalink

xpost -- Yeah yeah, docudrama and all, but where's your slash entry?

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 15:37 (six years ago) Permalink

Chancellor of the SexChequers

Neil S, Friday, 15 July 2011 15:39 (six years ago) Permalink

sb'd everyone itt, risk of contagion too great

who shivs a git (darraghmac), Friday, 15 July 2011 15:42 (six years ago) Permalink

Slowly Darragh inched his hand towards the throbbing SB button.

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 July 2011 15:44 (six years ago) Permalink

jesus CHRIST

who shivs a git (darraghmac), Friday, 15 July 2011 15:45 (six years ago) Permalink

He gasped...

that was the last arrow in my quiver of whimsy (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 15 July 2011 15:45 (six years ago) Permalink

lolling like a mf here

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 July 2011 15:46 (six years ago) Permalink

.. he shouted(xpost), but it was OK, now was not the time..

Mark G, Friday, 15 July 2011 15:46 (six years ago) Permalink

amazing

Spotify, Spotify me (DJP), Friday, 15 July 2011 15:56 (six years ago) Permalink

was anyone else old/lame enough to be reminded of this

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6135/5939909003_69e5d33aab_z.jpg

this planit is socked up and dave is a cul ringmaster (DJ Mencap), Friday, 15 July 2011 15:56 (six years ago) Permalink

The perfect thing is that Murdoch's referenced two-thirds through!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 16:00 (six years ago) Permalink

17.24 Mark Lewis, Dowler family solicitor:

"It was a private meeting that had been called for by Rupert Murdoch and he was humbled to give a full and sincere apology to the Dowler family.

"We told him, the Dowler family told him, that his papers should lead the way to set the standard of honesty and decency in the field and not what had gone on before.

"At the end of the day actions are going to speak louder than words. Thank you."

He went on to say, when questioned over Rupert Murdoch: "I think he was very humbled, I think he was very shaken and sincere. I think it was something that has hit him on a very personal level that it shouldn't have happened.

"Yes, he did apologise, he apologised many times. I don't think somebody could have held their head in their hands so many times to say they were sorry.

"It was a heartfelt and what seemed to be a very sincere apology."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 16:27 (six years ago) Permalink

"Share values keep dropping, you have no idea how sorry I am!"

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 16:28 (six years ago) Permalink

sepukku or he don't mean it imo

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 July 2011 16:29 (six years ago) Permalink

Probably saving that for Tuesday.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 16:33 (six years ago) Permalink

Would be interested to know the size and nature of Brooks' golden parachute.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 15 July 2011 16:34 (six years ago) Permalink

i have just reached a point where i'm sick of hearing about this. yes please punish everyone who broke the law but i'm just never going to care about it as much as the ppl writing the newspapers obviously (and understandably) do

tpp, Friday, 15 July 2011 17:25 (six years ago) Permalink

Actually thinking about Murdoch being all apologetic to the Dowlers makes me think about the opening of Snow Crash where it's clear the pizza mogul does not like having to go out and apologize for late delivery.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 17:29 (six years ago) Permalink

We've been caught.

The News of the World was in the business of catching other people. It failed when it came to not getting caught itself.

We are sorry we've been caught.

We are deeply sorry for the hurt we as individuals have suffered by getting caught.

We regret not acting faster to prevent ourselves being caught.

We realise that simply apologising won't change the fact we've been caught. But it might start to give the corrupt politicians and policemen we rely upon to look after us an excuse to start looking after us again.

Our business was founded on the idea that if we owned the press we would be immune from being caught. Your vindictive little country didn't live up to this.

In the coming days as we take further concrete steps to try to obscure the issues and limit the damage caused you will hear more bullshit from us.

Sincerely,

Rupert

frankiemachine, Friday, 15 July 2011 17:31 (six years ago) Permalink

I am honestly having a difficult time reconciling the amiable hippie I met in passing 15 years ago with modern-day CEO James Murdoch, lightning rod of scorn and hatred.

I mean it's not even like I KNOW know him or anything, just that apologetic rhetoric matches the person I met much more than the allegations swirling among his underlings does.

I kind of wish I'd made an actual connection/friendship there so I could dish more effectively about this

Spotify, Spotify me (DJP), Friday, 15 July 2011 17:35 (six years ago) Permalink

Well, we're talking two different Murdochs here, plus lawyers/PR people, so...

Meantime, so Jude Law is suing the Sun. Fun bits at the Telegraph:

18.59 The hunt is on for the four articles published in 2005 and 2006 that could be the source of the lawsuit. Do you know what they are?

19.01 The Sun website has quite a good search function. Get sleuthing, internet!

19.05 Hmmmm this is interesting - When you type Jude Law into The Sun's website it gives you a chronological archive going backwards. But get to the last page and the stories jump abruptly from 2007 to 2004 - cutting out the exact period covered in the lawsuit.

Could be that less was archived online back then. Could be something else...

19.11 We're working on a full archive search for the Jude Law stories and will hopefully have some results soon.

19.15 Worth remembering that it was Law's ex, Sienna Miller, who kept the issue of phone hacking in the public eye by suing the News of the World.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 18:19 (six years ago) Permalink

Fox finally covers the scandal. "You would think martians have landed in New Jersey"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qtC4gT-_Nj0#at=37

prolego, Friday, 15 July 2011 18:55 (six years ago) Permalink

Murdoch better not wear a beige turtleneck: he will look even more like an old man's penis.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 15 July 2011 19:04 (six years ago) Permalink

Also, FOX pundits are reacting and - surprise, surprise - they just don't get it:

On the Fox and Friends show, Fox journalist Steve Doocy wondered just what the fuss was all about: "The company has come forward and said: 'look, this happened a long time ago, at a tabloid, in London, somebody did something really bad,' and the company reacted. They closed that newspaper, all the people got fired, even though 99 percent of them had nothing to do with it."

Doocy's guest, public relations consultant Robert Dilenschneider, was in agreement:
"If I am not mistaken, Murdoch, who owns it, has apologised but for some reason, the public, the media keeps on going over this, again and again. It's a little bit too much."

"The bigger issue is hacking and how we as a public are going to protect outselves," said Dilenschneider, who earlier listed a number of US companies which had recently become the targets of hacking.

Doocy added later: "One of the things about the media, you look at some sites and you would think that martians had landed in New Jersey - again"

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 15 July 2011 19:29 (six years ago) Permalink

Holy shit, can someone confirm? Supposedly Hinton stepped down at the WSJ.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:14 (six years ago) Permalink

Guardian's just posted that as a red BREAKING headline.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 15 July 2011 20:15 (six years ago) Permalink

This via the Times' assistant news editor so presumably on the level.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:15 (six years ago) Permalink

One of the things about the media - is that we're not it, obviously. xps

that was the last arrow in my quiver of whimsy (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 15 July 2011 20:16 (six years ago) Permalink

So if Hinton and Brooks are out...beginning to wonder if this is just some sort of outright coup.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:17 (six years ago) Permalink

Dear Rupert,

I have watched with sorrow from New York as the News of the World story has unfolded. I have seen hundreds of news reports of both actual and alleged misconduct during the time I was executive chairman of News International and responsible for the company. The pain caused to innocent people is unimaginable. That I was ignorant of what apparently happened is irrelevant and in the circumstances I feel it is proper for me to resign from News Corp, and apologize to those hurt by the actions of the News of the World.

When I left News International in December 2007, I believed that the rotten element at the News of the World had been eliminated; that important lessons had been learned; and that journalistic integrity was restored.

My testimonies before the Culture Media and Sport Select Committee were given honestly. When I appeared before the Committee in March 2007, I expressed the belief that Clive Goodman had acted alone, but made clear our investigation was continuing.

In September 2009, I told the Committee there had never been any evidence delivered to me that suggested the conduct had spread beyond one journalist. If others had evidence that wrongdoing went further, I was not told about it.

Finally, I want to express my gratitude to you for a wonderful working life. My admiration and respect for you are unbounded. You have built a magnificent business since I first joined 52 years ago and it has been an honor making my contribution.

With my warmest best wishes,

Les

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:21 (six years ago) Permalink

"In sum, so long and thanks for all the fish."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:22 (six years ago) Permalink

I mean the wording of that basically boils down to "I didn't know about it, please don't make me testify anywhere, I'm already on the plane so I won't suffer Dominique Strauss-Kahn's fate, send severance check by carrier pigeon to the South Pacific."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:23 (six years ago) Permalink

TS: criminal negligence vs. actively rolling in the muck

Josef K-Doe (WmC), Friday, 15 July 2011 20:25 (six years ago) Permalink

Three down surely? xp

that was the last arrow in my quiver of whimsy (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 15 July 2011 20:30 (six years ago) Permalink

James Murdoch hasn't sent a grovelling resignation letter yet. But I would kill to read it.

"Dear Dad, my bad, so sad."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:31 (six years ago) Permalink

Extra points if he raps it.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 15 July 2011 20:32 (six years ago) Permalink

xp - but that's Coulson at the back next to Brooks.

that was the last arrow in my quiver of whimsy (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 15 July 2011 20:35 (six years ago) Permalink

It is, isn't it. There's a general short-hair-and-glasses douchebag quality around Murdoch that seems to smooth them all out.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:36 (six years ago) Permalink

Here one of Murdoch's mastheads published this accusing one of its competing papers of "hacking hypocrisy". Editor-in-chief of the accused paper shot it down in flames.

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 15 July 2011 20:39 (six years ago) Permalink

Anyway, Murdoch speaks:

“Les and I have been on a remarkable journey together for more than 52 years. That this passage has come to an unexpected end, professionally, not personally, is a matter of much sadness to me,” commented Rupert Murdoch, Chairman and CEO of News Corporation.

“On this difficult day we should appreciate that his extraordinary work has provided a platform for the future success of Dow Jones. And his great contribution to News Corporation over more than five decades has enhanced innumerable lives, whether those of employees hired by him or of readers better informed because of him.

"News Corporation is not Rupert Murdoch. It is the collective creativity and effort of many thousands of people around the world, and few individuals have given more to this Company than Les Hinton.”

http://image1.masterfile.com/getImage/NjAwLTAxNjQ2NDEwbi4wMDAwMDAwMA=AL18-T/600-01646410n.jpg

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:39 (six years ago) Permalink

As the Telegraph notes, "The fact that the press release carries a nice tribute from Murdoch makes you wonder how long Hinton's resignation has been in the works."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:44 (six years ago) Permalink

Are these resignations orchestrated to wrap up the agenda for the week? I know Murdoch would love nothing more than to start next week with an agenda that's not about him.

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 15 July 2011 20:45 (six years ago) Permalink

(and tbh I don't believe it would work anyway)

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 15 July 2011 20:45 (six years ago) Permalink

He and his son are facing that committee on Tuesday, all of Monday will be nothing but 'what will he say?' Interspersed with announcements that the Sun has been sold to Borders for immediate liquidation, the ceremonial destruction of Wapping with the people still in the buildings and Chase Carey and Roger Ailes coming over to talk about how British people suck.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:46 (six years ago) Permalink

"News Corporation is not Rupert Murdoch" seems a really significant quote right now

prolego, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:47 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah. I don't think Murdoch has a great deal of control over this particular narrative.

xp yes it does (and a lie)

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 15 July 2011 20:47 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that quote's getting a lot of immediate attention, I'm noticing.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:48 (six years ago) Permalink

Anyway don't forget...THE REAL POWER BEHIND THE THRONE:

http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2011/02/09/1226002/554932-dame-elisabeth-murdoch.jpg

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:48 (six years ago) Permalink

monty burns' mother

prolego, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:51 (six years ago) Permalink

dear old thing

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 15 July 2011 20:51 (six years ago) Permalink

I appreciate how she is not so much cutting that cake as simply outright murdering it.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:52 (six years ago) Permalink

is that pic of rebekah in the now-locked cleggeron thread a current one? if so, can't believe she'd pin a sarah payne badge to her dress.....

whatever, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:58 (six years ago) Permalink

I presume it's from when the NOTW campaigned for "Sarah's Law".

that was the last arrow in my quiver of whimsy (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 15 July 2011 21:09 (six years ago) Permalink

Would any of you recommend a simple explanation of what this is all about? I understand that phone hacking was involved, but why is this having such long legs politically? I just don't get this story but I want to!

Euler, Friday, 15 July 2011 21:12 (six years ago) Permalink

The short version is that a lot of people had their privacy violated, including celebrities, politicians and people with close ties to famous Britain incidents like the Tube bombing.

The outrage is due to a case involving a 12?-year-old girl who was missing for days who was later found murdered; her family kept calling her phone to find her, leaving messages that filled up her voicemail, and the hackers kept deleting them to make more space so they could get more info, leading the family to believe she was alive when she wasn't.

Spotify, Spotify me (DJP), Friday, 15 July 2011 21:15 (six years ago) Permalink

What he said. Further:

Guardian's overview page:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/phone-hacking

But of course there's always...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_of_the_World_phone_hacking_scandal

On top of all that, the connections/collusion between various papers, London police and the major parties of government are why this thing has major legs.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 21:17 (six years ago) Permalink

It has long legs politically because almost every politician in the country has been in thrall to Murdoch for decades and they've finally broken the spell xxp

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 15 July 2011 21:18 (six years ago) Permalink

euler, i thought it was because of suggestions/rumors/evidence that the sun and perhaps other newscorp companies had been using similar, criminal techniques to shut down police investigation into them, intimidate politicians, and generally enjoy a great deal of political influence, so that the knowledge of their criminal activity in some cases has led to suspicion that they're thoroughly rotten (and can be publicly, i.e. politically, pursued for it). xxxp

j., Friday, 15 July 2011 21:19 (six years ago) Permalink

Also former execs from NI being on the police payroll while the police were trying to tell the Guardian 'nothing to see here, mate'.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 15 July 2011 21:21 (six years ago) Permalink

Yep, former NI execs on the police payroll and former police chiefs / prosecutors who were meant to be looking into the criminality on the NI payroll.

модный хипстер (ShariVari), Friday, 15 July 2011 21:24 (six years ago) Permalink

aaaaaargh no Newsnight.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 15 July 2011 21:32 (six years ago) Permalink

fuck golf

prolego, Friday, 15 July 2011 21:41 (six years ago) Permalink

ok this helps!

Euler, Friday, 15 July 2011 21:43 (six years ago) Permalink

the prime minister employed as communications chief the ex-editor of the 'news of the world', who had quit after two of his employees had been jailed for hacking voicemails.

the police didn't investigate the editor at the time [because of close and in common parlance corrupt links between the police and news corp/news international] but 'most people' went along with the idea that, though he was editor, he had no idea about the hacking.

the last two weeks have blown that story to smithereens and so part of the story is about the cravenness of politicians on both sides towards murdoch. cameron had been set to give murdoch an even greater share of the uk television market -- which was already controversial.

so brycey (history mayne), Friday, 15 July 2011 21:58 (six years ago) Permalink

they should get Morrissey to release "Suedehead '11" for this

― she choots, she pah! (DJP), Friday, 15 July 2011 08:26 (7 hours ago) Bookmark

We had to sneak into your phone
just to hear your voicemails

kinder, Friday, 15 July 2011 23:10 (six years ago) Permalink

Appropriately Freudian Freudian slip about a famous Freud in the newspaper famously famed for its slips:

It also quotes Matthew Freud, Elisabeth's wife, something that is unlikely to please the PR man who has been as invisible as he can the last two weeks.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/blog/2011/jul/16/phone-hacking-rupert-murdoch#block-13

James Mitchell, Saturday, 16 July 2011 15:56 (six years ago) Permalink

has anybody done a "Will the Last One Out of News Corp Turn Out the Lights?" gif yet

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 16 July 2011 16:51 (six years ago) Permalink

long nyt article about the extent of the relaysh between scotland yard and news int

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/17/world/europe/17police.html?pagewanted=all

max, Saturday, 16 July 2011 18:19 (six years ago) Permalink

At a parliamentary committee hearing last week, three current and former officials who ran the case were openly mocked. One member of Parliament dubbed an investigator “more Clouseau than Colombo.”

At the hearing, the senior investigator in charge of the day-to- day inquiry, Peter Clarke, blamed The News of the World’s “complete lack of cooperation” for the shortcomings in the department’s initial investigation.

While editors were not sharing any information, they were frequently breaking bread with police officers. Andy Hayman, who as head of the counterterrorism unit was running the investigation, also attended four dinners, lunches and receptions with News of the World editors, including a dinner on April 25, 2006, while his officers were gathering evidence in the case, records show. He told Parliament he never discussed the investigation with editors.

Mr. Hayman left the Metropolitan Police in December 2007 and was soon hired to write a column for The Sunday Times, a News International paper. He defended the inquiry that he led, writing in his column in July 2009 that his detectives had “left no stone unturned.”

max, Saturday, 16 July 2011 18:53 (six years ago) Permalink

On Friday, The New York Times learned that the former editor, Neil Wallis, was reporting back to News International while he was working for the police on the hacking case.

Executives and others at the company also enjoyed close social ties to Scotland Yard’s top officials. Since the hacking scandal began in 2006, Mr. Yates and others regularly dined with editors from News International papers, records show. Sir Paul Stephenson, the Metropolitan Police commissioner, met for lunch or dinner 18 times with company executives and editors during the investigation, including eight occasions with Mr. Wallis while he was still working at The News of the World.

max, Saturday, 16 July 2011 18:54 (six years ago) Permalink

just a little dining, no big deal

caek, Saturday, 16 July 2011 18:58 (six years ago) Permalink

the hayman interview is on the youtubes apparently, it's pretty lol

so brycey (history mayne), Saturday, 16 July 2011 19:13 (six years ago) Permalink

since May 2010 the Prime Minister met 26 times with Rupert Murdoch, his son James Murdoch, or former News International head Rebekah Brooks. That's nearly once every two weeks. Or as The Times put it: "His meetings with the Murdoch officials exceeded all his encounters with other British media representatives put together."

p damning statistic

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Saturday, 16 July 2011 22:16 (six years ago) Permalink

Oooooooooh:

@tom_watson If what I have just heard is true, there will have to be a major resignation tomorrow.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Saturday, 16 July 2011 22:22 (six years ago) Permalink

man there is such teasing going on with this! if something breaks tomorrow it'd be through the papers, wouldn't it? i don't know if it's just because of the bbc thing but things have seemed to slow down a lot over the weekend.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Saturday, 16 July 2011 22:31 (six years ago) Permalink

guy's other tweets seem sorta nonplussed by people throwing around the idea of cameron resigning at some point

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Saturday, 16 July 2011 22:32 (six years ago) Permalink

sunday papers are already out so if there is something it's probably not in them

caek, Saturday, 16 July 2011 22:36 (six years ago) Permalink

We've been caught.
The News of the World was in the business of catching other people. It failed when it came to not getting caught itself.
We are sorry we've been caught.
We are deeply sorry for the hurt we as individuals have suffered by getting caught.
We regret not acting faster to prevent ourselves being caught.
We realise that simply apologising won't change the fact we've been caught. But it might start to give the corrupt politicians and policemen we rely upon to look after us an excuse to start looking after us again.
Our business was founded on the idea that if we owned the press we would be immune from being caught. Your vindictive little country didn't live up to this.
In the coming days as we take further concrete steps to try to obscure the issues and limit the damage caused you will hear more bullshit from us.
Sincerely,
Rupert
― frankiemachine, Friday, July 15, 2011 12:31 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

otm

by another name (amateurist), Saturday, 16 July 2011 22:41 (six years ago) Permalink

No, that's not it. Or, if Stephenson goes, it won't be for that reason.

George Osborne's been MIGHTY QUIET these past few weeks.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Saturday, 16 July 2011 22:42 (six years ago) Permalink

man i wish.

i loved the 'concrete steps' part in the original text of rupert's letter, because i kinda feel like it's going to be in reference to the sun on sunday; we will launch this new shitty newspaper as part of our new approach to righteous journalism!

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Saturday, 16 July 2011 22:53 (six years ago) Permalink

This is going to be an amazing Peter Morgan film.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Saturday, 16 July 2011 22:56 (six years ago) Permalink

provided that revelations keep spilling with this, it'll be interesting to see to what extent they remain partisan or agency specific; you almost feel there could be that level of fatigue that came with the expenses scandal, whereby at some point everyone implicated & it in some ways takes the heat off
xp lol

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Saturday, 16 July 2011 22:57 (six years ago) Permalink

When I say this is going to be an amazing Peter Morgan film, that means I was speaking to someone who works with him today, and... XD

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Saturday, 16 July 2011 22:58 (six years ago) Permalink

The MP who will lead the attack on Rebekah Brooks and Rupert and James Murdoch this week over their roles in the phone-hacking scandal has close links with the media empire, it is revealed today.

John Whittingdale, the Conservative chairman of the Culture, Media and Sport committee, admitted he was an old friend of Mr Murdoch's close aide, Les Hinton, and had been for dinner with Ms Brooks.

The Independent on Sunday has also learnt that Mr Murdoch's daughter Elisabeth, seen as the future saviour of the company, has also met Mr Whittingdale a number of times. Among her 386 "friends" on Facebook, the only MP she lists is Mr Whittingdale. He is also the only MP among 93 Facebook "friends" of Mr Hinton.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/revealed-senior-mps-secret-links-to-murdoch-2315111.html

James Mitchell, Sunday, 17 July 2011 08:23 (six years ago) Permalink

Fuck.

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 17 July 2011 08:33 (six years ago) Permalink

That was poetic, wasn't it? Just fucking exasperated.

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 17 July 2011 08:33 (six years ago) Permalink

Oh, well, that's all right then!

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 17 July 2011 09:33 (six years ago) Permalink

if nothing else there is political capital to be gained in opposing this ^^^, on account of it adding to the picture of the cosy, tory/murdoch group in control of everything. it should be opposed as a conflict of interest, surely ..?

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Sunday, 17 July 2011 09:47 (six years ago) Permalink

Really worried that this whole death-of-News Corp business will be nothing more than a massive anti-climax. If there's one aspect that's guaranteed to endure it's the revelation of just how many hooks that bastard's got into govt etc. Thank christ Miliband has got some guts.

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 17 July 2011 09:51 (six years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/Idnup.jpg

TORY B

‘Wore a dog-collar for his whippings, but a nice guy’

A married man, tipped for a prime role in any future Tory government. Natalie claims she had five cocaine-fuelled sessions with Tory B, who got his kicks from being whipped while in a dog’s collar.

She said: “I really fancied him when we first met at the home of one of his friends. At first he had no idea what I did for a living, but his wife kept giving me the evil eye. Then one day his friend let slip what I actually did and he booked me for a session.

“A lot of the men I meet are cold and uninteresting, but he had a good soul. But he would soon go off on a rant as soon as anyone mentioned politics. He was very critical of William Hague, the Tory leader at the time. He said after hoovering up a line of coke ‘I’ll be Prime Minister one day’ and I joked, ‘And I’ll have all the evidence on you.’

“He paid me £360 plus pop, which means he had to pay for cocaine on top.”

http://imgur.com/4JZkx

James Mitchell, Sunday, 17 July 2011 10:19 (six years ago) Permalink

A lot of the men I meet are cold and uninteresting, but he had a good soul.

So it wasn't Osborne then? Sounds like Dave but he wouldn't do this to the fragrant Sam...

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Sunday, 17 July 2011 11:28 (six years ago) Permalink

Tories will be launching a full internal inquiry if it turns out somebody with a soul's infiltrated the party.

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 11:32 (six years ago) Permalink

Yes, that's where the story breaks down

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Sunday, 17 July 2011 11:37 (six years ago) Permalink

"police arrest 42 year old woman"; i wondered if that was brooks, but she's 43

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:11 (six years ago) Permalink

oh, no, guardian says believed to be her

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:12 (six years ago) Permalink

met has corrected its statement: 43yo. lol she lied about her age to the desk sergeant.

joe, Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:16 (six years ago) Permalink

http://twitter.com/#!/BreakingNews/statuses/92569755323600896

"Sources tell Sky that Rebekah Brooks has been arrested as part of phone hacking investigation"

max, Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:25 (six years ago) Permalink

LOL xp

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:31 (six years ago) Permalink

met has corrected its statement: 43yo. lol she lied about her age to the desk sergeant.

or they just got it wrong lol.

lex pretend, Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:35 (six years ago) Permalink

tweetminster

Rebekah Brooks is being held on suspicion of conspiring to intercept communications & corruption allegations - Sky News #notw #phonehacking
2 minutes ago via TweetDeck

lex pretend, Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:35 (six years ago) Permalink

or they just got it wrong lol.

― lex pretend, Sunday, 17 July 2011 13:35 (40 seconds ago)

print the legend, it's the news int way

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:36 (six years ago) Permalink

cover up the truth, it's the met police way

lex pretend, Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:37 (six years ago) Permalink

A Metropolitan Police spokeswoman said "At approximately 12.00 hrs a 43-year-old woman was arrested by appointment at a London police station by officers from Operation Weeting together with officers from Operation Elveden. She is currently in custody.

"She was arrested on suspicion of conspiring to intercept communications, contrary to Section1(1) Criminal Law Act 1977 and on suspicion of corruption allegations contrary to Section 1 of the Prevention of Corruption Act 1906.

"It would be inappropriate to discuss any further details regarding these cases at this time."

James Mitchell, Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:37 (six years ago) Permalink

before it gets lost under all the brooks stuff, & w/apologies for continuing to just c+p from the guardian liveblog verbatim, i thought this was interesting:

Just 24 hours before news broke that Milly Dowler's mobile had been hacked, Elisabeth Murdoch and her husband Matthew Freud hosted a gathering of the UK's political and media elite at their Costwolds mansion. According to The Mail on Sunday, Guests included Peter Mandelson, the BBC's Mark Thompson and Robert Peston, Labour MP David Miliband, Conservative education secretary Michael Gove, Tory policy guru Steve Hilton, his wife, Google communications chief Rachel Whetstone, Rebekah Brooks and James Murdoch.

like so much of what's fascinating about this (to me, dilettante) is getting a window into the texture of the whole world these people occupied, how often they lunched & fraternised. & d miliband & brooks & the murdochs hanging out just seems like such a fucking underworld, like seriously when i imagine this soiree it is happening in the batcave, it is intriguing to me.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:38 (six years ago) Permalink

conspiring to intercept communications

is this the same charge everyone else is under, & what phone-hacking is categorised as btw? i just wondered if it might refer to one of the other supposed offences

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:40 (six years ago) Permalink

like so much of what's fascinating about this (to me, dilettante) is getting a window into the texture of the whole world these people occupied, how often they lunched & fraternised. & d miliband & brooks & the murdochs hanging out just seems like such a fucking underworld, like seriously when i imagine this soiree it is happening in the batcave, it is intriguing to me.

it's def something which i want to see more analysis of, because in one sense it's like - duh, of course they're friends. why wouldn't they be? it's natural to socialise with people you meet in your professional life. it's natural for networking to elide with actual friendship among people who have similar interests and personalities. that's not a grand conspiracy, everyone does it. but riven through it are all these deeply gory interpersonal details (eg brooks and the browns) and the sense of having to navigate this minefield of fake friendship even amid the real frienships...it reminds me of, like, a medieval royal court or something.

lex pretend, Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:44 (six years ago) Permalink

really wonder how the crisis would have been different if david milliband was the opposition leader, as ed has been so aggressive in all of this.

also wonder if rebekah has been arrested so she doesn't have to go in front of the commons committee on tuesday.

prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:47 (six years ago) Permalink

She'll be out in time to go to the HCMS committee. Coulson was out after a long day of being held.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:52 (six years ago) Permalink

it'll provide her with an "ongoing police matter" out for every question though :/

lex pretend, Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:53 (six years ago) Permalink

They all need to go under oath on Tuesday.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:58 (six years ago) Permalink

mps will probably use some unused powers dating back to the 14th century to drag her from jail to get her to that committee if they have to.

prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 13:42 (six years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/U3uc6.png

James Mitchell, Sunday, 17 July 2011 14:46 (six years ago) Permalink

wtf

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 17 July 2011 14:58 (six years ago) Permalink

Oh FFS. Which news outlet is that?

emil.y, Sunday, 17 July 2011 15:09 (six years ago) Permalink

Yahoo! News

James Mitchell, Sunday, 17 July 2011 15:27 (six years ago) Permalink

Yahoo News seem to have a general problem with justification of images in their rolling news bits...decapitations are common.

One Big Craigo, Full Of Bad Boingos (Craigo Boingo), Sunday, 17 July 2011 15:44 (six years ago) Permalink

oh if only

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 15:47 (six years ago) Permalink

HEH

One Big Craigo, Full Of Bad Boingos (Craigo Boingo), Sunday, 17 July 2011 16:20 (six years ago) Permalink

A+

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 17 July 2011 16:30 (six years ago) Permalink

18.20 Channel 4 is reporting that the Serious Fraud Office is now involved in the investigation of News International

Can UK folks tell me what this means in terms of ratcheting up pressure? Is this an SEC equivalent?

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 17:24 (six years ago) Permalink

lol that sounds so fake

J0rdan S., Sunday, 17 July 2011 17:29 (six years ago) Permalink

Fraud, For Serious

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 17:29 (six years ago) Permalink

Some followup:

18.23 Tom Watson MP apparently wrote to the SFO to ask them investigate whether management had failed in its responsibilities to share holders. The SFO won't confirm or deny its investigation and News International are saying they've had no contact from investigators.

18.27 Channel 4 seems to be slightly back tracking now, stressing that the SFO aren't necessarily investigating but they have been asked to.

So who knows.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 17:30 (six years ago) Permalink

lol i thought the serious fraud office had been shut down

lex pretend, Sunday, 17 July 2011 17:56 (six years ago) Permalink

@rblandford: Mick Hucknall arrested by accident.

bernerrrrr! berrrrrnowwww.... (Eazy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:26 (six years ago) Permalink

Sir Paul Stephenson has just resigned.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:33 (six years ago) Permalink

ooh, any indication why?

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:36 (six years ago) Permalink

these girls fall like dominoes...

lex pretend, Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:36 (six years ago) Permalink

ooh, any indication why?

― textbook blows on the head (dowd), Sunday, July 17, 2011 7:36 PM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark

loool

so brycey (history mayne), Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:36 (six years ago) Permalink

Can we place bets on the next resignation?

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:38 (six years ago) Permalink

So how long until Yates goes, at this rate...

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:38 (six years ago) Permalink

Stephenson just now:

I have this afternoon informed the Home Secretary and the Mayor of my intention to resign as Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police Service.
I have taken this decision as a consequence of the ongoing speculation and accusations relating to the Met's links with News International at a senior level and in particular in relation to Mr Neil Wallis who as you know was arrested in connection with Operation Weeting last week.
I had no knowledge of, or involvement in, the original investigation into phone hacking in 2006 that successfully led to the conviction and imprisonment of two men. I had no reason to believe this was anything other than a successful investigation. I was unaware that there were any other documents in our possession of the nature that have now emerged.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:41 (six years ago) Permalink

murdoch minor then cameron please

lex pretend, Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:41 (six years ago) Permalink

xpost "Basically, I suck."

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:41 (six years ago) Permalink

wow

prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:45 (six years ago) Permalink

Firstly, I want to say what an enormous privilege it has been for me to lead this great organisation that is the Met. The recent example of the heroism and bravery of Met officers in chasing armed suspects, involving the shooting of one of my officers, is typical; but is in danger of being eclipsed by the ongoing debate about relationships between senior officers and the media. This can never be right.

Crime levels in the Met are at a ten year low. You have seen the Met at its glorious and unobtrusive best on the occasion of the royal wedding; the professional and restrained approach to unexpected levels of violence in recent student demonstrations; the vital ongoing work to secure the safety of the capital from terrorism; the reductions in homicide; and continuing increased levels of confidence as the jewel in our crown of Safer Neighbourhoods Teams serve the needs of Londoners.

Etc. etc. "please love me"

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:49 (six years ago) Permalink

'Coming soon our new tough talking Sun on Sunday columnist Sir Paul Stephenson.'

The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:54 (six years ago) Permalink

'restrained approach' as in didn't actually kill anyone this time around

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:57 (six years ago) Permalink

xpost -- "The establishment is too soft on crime and the police are clearly corrupt."

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:58 (six years ago) Permalink

the professional and restrained approach to unexpected levels of violence in recent student demonstrations
the professional and restrained approach to unexpected levels of violence in recent student demonstrations
the professional and restrained approach to unexpected levels of violence in recent student demonstrations
the professional and restrained approach to unexpected levels of violence in recent student demonstrations
the professional and restrained approach to unexpected levels of violence in recent student demonstrations
the professional and restrained approach to unexpected levels of violence in recent student demonstrations

BAD COP NO DOUGHNUT

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:58 (six years ago) Permalink

psyched for when they take this series to film

maurice flitcoz (cozen), Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:59 (six years ago) Permalink

I'll have better Peter Morgan gossip this time, next week...

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:00 (six years ago) Permalink

Your wonderful London mayor:

I was very sad and very reluctant to accept Sir Paul Stephenson's resignation.
Sir Paul is widely admired by men and women in the police service in London.
He felt this whole business was going to make things very very difficult for him in the months ahead in the run up to the Olympics, and he didn't want that kind of distraction.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:02 (six years ago) Permalink

And more from Stephenson:

"The purpose of that meeting was, as with other journalists, to represent the context of policing and to better inform the public debate carried out through the media on policing issues.

I had no knowledge of, or involvement in, the original investigation into phone hacking in 2006 that successfully led to the conviction and imprisonment of two men. I had no reason to believe this was anything other than a successful investigation. I was unaware that there were any other documents in our possession of the nature that have now emerged.

I have acknowledged the statement by John Yates that if he had known then what he knows now he would have made different decisions.

My relationship with Mr Wallis continued over the following years and the frequency of our meetings is a matter of public record. The record clearly accords with my description of the relationship as one maintained for professional purposes and an acquaintance.

In 2009 the Met entered into a contractual arrangement with Neil Wallis, terminating in 2010. I played no role in the letting or management of that contract.

I have heard suggestions that we must have suspected the alleged involvement of Mr Wallis in phone hacking. Let me say unequivocally that I did not and had no reason to have done so. I do not occupy a position in the world of journalism; I had no knowledge of the extent of this disgraceful practice and the repugnant nature of the selection of victims that is now emerging; nor of its apparent reach into senior levels."

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:04 (six years ago) Permalink

Okay come ON dude:

--

8.10pm: Stephenson also addressed the allegation that the contractual relationship with Wallis was kept secret:

"The contracting of Mr Wallis only became of relevance when his name became linked with the new investigation into phone hacking. I recognise that the interests of transparency might have made earlier disclosure of this information desirable. However my priority, despite the embarrassment it might cause, has been to maintain the integrity of Operation Weeting. To make it public would have immediately tainted him and potentially compromised any future Operation Weeting action."

He said the reasons for not telling David Cameron and Theresa May about the relationship with Wallis were "two fold":

"Firstly, I repeat my earlier comments of having at the time no reason for considering the contractual relationship to be a matter of concern. Unlike Mr Coulson, Mr Wallis had not resigned from News of the World or, to the best of my knowledge been in any way associated with the original phone hacking investigation.

Secondly, once Mr Wallis's name did become associated with Operation Weeting, I did not want to compromise the prime minister in any way by revealing or discussing a potential suspect who clearly had a close relationship with Mr Coulson. I am aware of the many political exchanges in relation to Mr Coulson's previous employment - I believe it would
have been extraordinarily clumsy of me to have exposed the prime minister, or by association the home secretary, to any accusation, however unfair, as a consequence of them being in possession of operational information in this regard. Similarly, the mayor. Because of the individuals involved, their positions and relationships, these were
I believe unique circumstances.

Consequently, we informed the chair of the MPA, Mr Malthouse, of the Met's contractual arrangements with Mr Wallis on the morning of the latter's arrest. It is our practice not to release the names of suspects under arrest, making it difficult to make public details of the
arrangements prior to Mr Wallis's release the same day. The timing of the MPA committee that I appeared before at 2pm that day was most unfortunate."

8.16pm: Speaking about his free stay worth £12,000 at Champneys health farm where Wallis was also acting as PR agent, Stephenson again denied all allegations of impropriety:

"There has been no impropriety and I am extremely happy with what I did and the reasons for it - to do everything possible to return to running the Met full time, significantly ahead of medical, family and friends' advice. The attempt to represent this in a negative way is both cynical and disappointing.

I thought it necessary to provide this lengthy and detailed account of my position on aspects of the current media questions and speculation concerning my conduct. I do this to provide the backcloth to the main purpose of this statement."

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:22 (six years ago) Permalink

dunno why the press are still going on about this minor insular non-story

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:24 (six years ago) Permalink

I am extremely happy with what I did I am extremely happy with what I did I am extremely happy with what I did I am extremely happy with what I did I am extremely happy with what I did I am extremely happy with what I did I am extremely happy with what I did

Aimless, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:27 (six years ago) Permalink

On Friday, Carl Bernstein said:

it is evident to him the events of the past week "are the beginning, not the end, of the seismic event".

Dude was right.

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:33 (six years ago) Permalink

A shame that Sir Paul has to resign on a full pension now rather than face an investigation and lose some nominal amount of his money.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:35 (six years ago) Permalink

You horrible cynic.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:38 (six years ago) Permalink

Andrew Neil says the "carnage has only just begun"

prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:40 (six years ago) Permalink

Mark S has it right:

Yog Sothoth invited into cabinet to stabilise political situation, calls for calm

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:42 (six years ago) Permalink

Methinks the Mail doth protest a little too much.

Neil S, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:44 (six years ago) Permalink

Except the problem is not phone hacking now, but corrupt officials.

Aimless, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:45 (six years ago) Permalink

to be fair the daily mail is actually leading on the stephenson resignation, and one of those links is a ~maverick~ opinion piece

lex pretend, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:46 (six years ago) Permalink

ok, that is true. Sorry, Daily Mail.

StanM, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:48 (six years ago) Permalink

For catchphrase frenzy, it's hard to beat this:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2014981/Hacking-They-hell-handcart.html

4, 5, 6, The monkey's got a hockey stick (aldo), Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:49 (six years ago) Permalink

"Hacking They hell handcart" indeed

Neil S, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:50 (six years ago) Permalink

Who knew the Daily Mail would support the Orange Order and other loyalists in the recent disturbances? I need to remember never to read more of the DM than I have to...

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:50 (six years ago) Permalink

Interesting interview with Watson:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/jul/17/tom-watson-rupert-murdoch

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:54 (six years ago) Permalink

Even though the News of the World has been closed, the BSkyB takeover bid withdrawn, and Rupert Murdoch has promised to co-operate with the judicial inquiries, the bloodlust – orchestrated by a vastly subsidised BBC – continues.
wtf. even now they can't shut the fuck up about the bbc. and if this whole thing was some left wing conspiracy (which the telegraph is also now arguing despite pursuing this with equal vigour) it's orchestrated by the guardian obviously.

prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:55 (six years ago) Permalink

The state records our emails, spies on our rubbish bins and uses airport X-ray machines to peer sneakily at our naked bodies.

hahahahahaha!

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:56 (six years ago) Permalink

Apparently Watson shared a flat at uni with... Neil Codling?

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:56 (six years ago) Permalink

The alternate universe in which Watson was playing keyboards on "Trash" while Codling went on to interrogate Murdoch is an unusual one to be in.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:57 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah, do you know Neil?

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:57 (six years ago) Permalink

ah fuck d'you know i never realised he was in Suede.

Sarah Gurling was at Hull around this time too.

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:59 (six years ago) Permalink

I don't know NC at all. The one in Suede I know best (though not well) is Brett.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:00 (six years ago) Permalink

Hold on, NV, you know Neil but missed the Suede connection?

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:00 (six years ago) Permalink

i knew him vaguely, i didn't pay a lot of attention to who was in Suede, or to Suede after the first album really

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:01 (six years ago) Permalink

altho i saw them play at Hull the week before the debut album came out? Neil joined later on tho

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:02 (six years ago) Permalink

^^^He is Simon Gilbert's cousin.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:03 (six years ago) Permalink

Ah okay, I was just getting my head around the idea you and he were buds but he never mentioned his day job.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:03 (six years ago) Permalink

"So what do you do anyway, Mr. Eastwood?"

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:03 (six years ago) Permalink

nah this would've been 87 to 92 ish

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:04 (six years ago) Permalink

I don't know, there's a clear BBC link to the DMill, Mandy dinner mentioned up there somewhere.

Does this mean some of the rumoured suppressed threads surrounding the RWade/RKemp marriage will now come out?

4, 5, 6, The monkey's got a hockey stick (aldo), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:05 (six years ago) Permalink

Oh, what: affair with chef GR?

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:06 (six years ago) Permalink

is it true rebekah smacked rkemp up because she caught him in bed with some tory boy?

prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:09 (six years ago) Permalink

That and the whole beard thing.

haha, that's the story I was thinking of.

4, 5, 6, The monkey's got a hockey stick (aldo), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:10 (six years ago) Permalink

i thought we'd decided it was Phil Mitchell

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:11 (six years ago) Permalink

I once saw them together at a book launch and R. Kemp had the most hostile body language ever.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:16 (six years ago) Permalink

I kind of liked the personal time I spent with RKemp but it was at a charity dinner with a number of people much harder than him.

4, 5, 6, The monkey's got a hockey stick (aldo), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:18 (six years ago) Permalink

ah, the Loose Women presenters

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:19 (six years ago) Permalink

looooooool

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:22 (six years ago) Permalink

Apparently there's some hilarious Fox & Friends bit where they have the NOTW as the victims, then they finish with how this foreign news isn't important anyway and that's when their Casey Anthony bit starts? (can't search, my provider has probs with youtube at the moment)

StanM, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:25 (six years ago) Permalink

for a sec there i was wondered wtf rainer werner fassbinder had to do with this... still am but in a different way

so brycey (history mayne), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:26 (six years ago) Permalink

'i was wondered' - 2:1 degree yall

so brycey (history mayne), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:26 (six years ago) Permalink

xps - I once saw them at...ahem...Daylesford Organic (yea, verily, I walked into the very heart of the Chipping Norton set and ate overpriced chocolate with them) and there was a very nasty moment over a jar of organic artichoke hearts.

that was the last arrow in my quiver of whimsy (Ned Trifle II), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:27 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtC4gT-_Nj0&

nate woolls, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:29 (six years ago) Permalink

"If I'm not mistaken Murdoch has apologised, but FOR SOME REASON the public, the media, keeps going over this"

loooooool

ledge, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:33 (six years ago) Permalink

James Murdoch may be arrested?

James Mitchell, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:34 (six years ago) Permalink

Reading rumors about same.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:34 (six years ago) Permalink

wow this could be the best summer ever

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:34 (six years ago) Permalink

Thanks, Nate! It's even better than I'd read.

StanM, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:37 (six years ago) Permalink

Am I right in thinking that Brooks is apparently still being questioned?

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:38 (six years ago) Permalink

i'm really suspicious about these arrests before the committee thing on tuesday.

prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:41 (six years ago) Permalink

As well you should be.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:41 (six years ago) Permalink

Course, if *Rupert* got arrested too...

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:41 (six years ago) Permalink

As likely as Santa Claus getting arrested for breaking & entering.
Can't shake this feeling that the whole lot of them are going to get off scott free.

Servants of the SBankh (snoball), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:44 (six years ago) Permalink

from that mail "What about the REAL problems?" post

The state records our emails, spies on our rubbish bins and uses airport X-ray machines to peer sneakily at our naked bodies.

gyac, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:45 (six years ago) Permalink

Can't shake this feeling that the whole lot of them are going to get off scott free.

After Murdoch Jr. owned up to the payments? I think not.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:46 (six years ago) Permalink

it may yet happen. also no police arrested yet iirc. but the committee is a spectacle, an entertaining one sure but a spectacle. starting criminal proceedings against the guilty parties is much more important in the big scheme of things.

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:47 (six years ago) Permalink

Course, if *Rupert* got arrested too...

Not sure about him, but Cameron surely can't stay? Was just reading comments on the Telegraph and quite a lot of the top-rated comments were variations on "he must go." And that was the Telegraph.

Can't imagine their voters in the shires are impressed at all. The pressure must be huge.

gyac, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:48 (six years ago) Permalink

who have the Tories got who's far enough out of the loop to take over as PM without being in the same situation in 2 weeks time?

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:49 (six years ago) Permalink

Was just reading comments on the Telegraph and quite a lot of the top-rated comments were variations on "he must go." And that was the Telegraph.

the telegraph doesn't live cameron though, ever. comments boxes man.

so brycey (history mayne), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:50 (six years ago) Permalink

'love'

so brycey (history mayne), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:50 (six years ago) Permalink

Who would become PM then though? The cabinet is useless. I guess it'd have to be David Davis.

prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:50 (six years ago) Permalink

who have the Tories got who's far enough out of the loop to take over as PM without being in the same situation in 2 weeks time?

― dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, July 17, 2011 9:49 PM (24 seconds ago) Bookmark

can i just nick clegg

so brycey (history mayne), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:50 (six years ago) Permalink

It's Cameron's involvement that makes me think that they're all going to get out of this relatively unscathed. Junior takes one for the team and does time in an open prison, getting let out early for 'good behaviour', but that's about it.

Servants of the SBankh (snoball), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:51 (six years ago) Permalink

Anyway if Blair could survive after Iraq I'm sure Cameron will be fine.

prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:52 (six years ago) Permalink

cameron doesn't control events, no-one does. there are conspiracies, sure, but cameron is clearly not on top of this situation.

so brycey (history mayne), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:52 (six years ago) Permalink

Blair was not clearly implicated in criminal activity, sorry SWP fans. Cameron, as hm says, is drowning here. Surely it's time for Ann Widdecombe to form a government of national unity.

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:53 (six years ago) Permalink

x-post OTM. Camerons been outpaced by the story at every point.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:54 (six years ago) Permalink

can i just nick clegg

omg the idea of this

lex pretend, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:55 (six years ago) Permalink

bring back attlee

max, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:55 (six years ago) Permalink

who have the Tories got who's far enough out of the loop to take over as PM without being in the same situation in 2 weeks time?

who does labour have &c &c

lex pretend, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:55 (six years ago) Permalink

i said days ago at least nobody can accuse the Lib Dems of being too close to NI. or anybody else

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:55 (six years ago) Permalink

no lex absolutely this doesn't help the revivified corpse of the Labour party one iota. if anything, electorally this ought to play well for the LDs except you know that wd be logical or something

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:56 (six years ago) Permalink

prolego otm and i dont see wtf shaun wright-phillips has to do with it tbh

who shivs a git (darraghmac), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:57 (six years ago) Permalink

No idea, isn't the chancellor first in line for this kind of thing? He's been very quiet recently though. Would love to know what they have on him.

I had to check the PM page on wiki for backup and found this lovely official Cameron photo on there.

gyac, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:57 (six years ago) Permalink

there's always boris.

prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:57 (six years ago) Permalink

the chancellor was the one who recommended coulson! though that could have been a ruthless move aimed at eventually destorying cameron. he's very ambition.

prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:59 (six years ago) Permalink

xp

prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:59 (six years ago) Permalink

George has problems with escort and coke, yes?

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:02 (six years ago) Permalink

It'll be interesting to see how much pressure there is from the Tory right / Telegraph / Mail on Cameron in the next few weeks. They only tolerated him initially because he was reasonably popular. If that starts to slip, he might have trouble within the party. On the one hand, his cuts have probably been aggressive enough for most of them, on the other, he hasn't been particularly hardline on Europe or law and order. I'm sure that the whole party had fed from the NI trough at one point but none are tied so closely or would make such a convenient sacrifice. I can't really see it happening though. Who would step in? Pickles? Davies?

Also interesting to think about what the ostensible removal of the Murdoch influence might mean for his personal politics moving forward.

модный хипстер (ShariVari), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:03 (six years ago) Permalink

problems?

who shivs a git (darraghmac), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:03 (six years ago) Permalink

It'll be interesting to see how much pressure there is from the Tory right / Telegraph / Mail on Cameron in the next few weeks.

Already kicking in:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100097264/sir-paul-stephenson-resigns-this-is-grave-news-for-david-cameron/

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:04 (six years ago) Permalink

PIIICKLLLLLLLLLLLEEESSS

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:06 (six years ago) Permalink

Cameron speaks:

Sir Paul Stephenson has had a long and distinguished career in the police, and I would like to thank him for his service over many, many years.
Under his leadership the Metropolitan Police made good progress in fighting crime, continued its vital work in combating terrorism, and scored notable successes such as the policing of the Royal Wedding.
While I know that today must be a very sad occasion for him, I respect and understand his decision to leave the Met, and I wish him well for the future.
What matters most of all now is that the Metropolitan Police and the Metropolitan Police Authority do everything possible to ensure the investigations into phone hacking and alleged police corruption proceed with all speed, with full public confidence and with all the necessary leadership and resources to bring them to an effective conclusion.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:07 (six years ago) Permalink

From Osborne's last speech three days ago!

We have discussed chocolate biscuits, Tupperware, secret treaties and what Mr Skinner said in 1971, the year in which I was born.

Amazing.

gyac, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:09 (six years ago) Permalink

NADINE DORRIES FOR PM

prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:11 (six years ago) Permalink

Loving waking up atm. Every day is like xmas.

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:12 (six years ago) Permalink

This doesn't look good for ERII either, this all happened during her reign. Can we expect a "One abdicates" speech over this too?

StanM, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:14 (six years ago) Permalink

Maybe Liz, Charles, and Wills can all abdicate one after the other, leaving Harry as king?

Servants of the SBankh (snoball), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:14 (six years ago) Permalink

I mean, a guy who wears a Nazi to a fancy dress party has got to make the government look good by comparison.

Servants of the SBankh (snoball), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:15 (six years ago) Permalink

Nazi uniform
oh dear...

Servants of the SBankh (snoball), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:15 (six years ago) Permalink

Let it cascade down to Beatrice, who can become queen only if she wears that hat all day.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:16 (six years ago) Permalink

Wearing a Nazi is the in thing, don't you know.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:16 (six years ago) Permalink

'ere, guvnor, I 'ad that Goebbells on me 'ead last week!

Servants of the SBankh (snoball), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:16 (six years ago) Permalink

Ow man, we're gonna need a bigger boatload of popcorn if all of that happens.

StanM, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:16 (six years ago) Permalink

It's Cameron's involvement that makes me think that they're all going to get out of this relatively unscathed. Junior takes one for the team and does time in an open prison, getting let out early for 'good behaviour', but that's about it.

― Servants of the SBankh (snoball), Sunday, July 17, 2011 9:51 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark

returning to this, if the met is like every other organization of human beings in history, those slightly lower in the hierarchy will want to fill the power vacuum left by the departure of the discredited former top brass. so some part of justice may be served by their ambition, kind of thing.

so brycey (history mayne), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:18 (six years ago) Permalink

Pippa will probably end up Queen.

prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:19 (six years ago) Permalink

lol @ dorries for PM.
& i had the same holy shit! feeling at wondering if clegg could somehow become PM out of this. it would be so amazing. it would be worth how terrible it would be just for how awkward it would be.

cameron doesn't control events, no-one does. there are conspiracies, sure, but cameron is clearly not on top of this situation

yeah for the talk of osbourne being quiet i really do think it's weird that cameron's been so useless w/this - you'd have thought he'd be trying to get ahead of the story, & wonder if there's a fear of something that's stopping him from doing so.

also waking up every morning knowing more of this shit is coming OTM. there was a comment is free piece about how this 'isn't britain's worst crisis', which sort of misses the point, that it's britain's best crisis.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:21 (six years ago) Permalink

Surely the Tory Right would rather be in Opposition than have Clegg as PM?

carson dial, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:23 (six years ago) Permalink

they mayn't have a choice?

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:24 (six years ago) Permalink

theresa may preparing to give a statement at 10pm on a sunday makes me feel like she might've killed bin laden?, or at least the bin laden of this story, rupert murdoch?

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:29 (six years ago) Permalink

xp Clegg would have to be PM at least temporarily, but the TR would fight to have one of their number as PM.

Servants of the SBankh (snoball), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:30 (six years ago) Permalink

NADINE DORRIES FOR PM

― prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:11 (18 minutes ago)

thought this said NANDO TORRES for a second

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:31 (six years ago) Permalink

neither of them have scored in the last 6 months

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:32 (six years ago) Permalink

the appraisal of telegraph blogwriters and other assorted bankrupts is rather wishfully END TIMES

cameron is ~gonna get thru this~

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:33 (six years ago) Permalink

not without a few kickings, still

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:34 (six years ago) Permalink

slam dunk from NV

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:36 (six years ago) Permalink

Cameron is kind of obligated to be on the back foot with all this. every additional word he says about it reminds people of his involvement with Coulson. his hands are tied.

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:38 (six years ago) Permalink

A roffly detail:

The prime minister is currently en route on a foreign trip. His location is being kept a secret for security reasons, according to the BBC. However he was informed about Stephenson's resignation before flying and is being kept informed in the air.

"Called Siberia, I think, don't worry, plenty of room."

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:39 (six years ago) Permalink

he will make a new life in mexico

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:39 (six years ago) Permalink

for Cameron to go, I think it'll take somebody senior in the Government to deal the first blow. Can't see that happening.

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:41 (six years ago) Permalink

yah pretty sure georgie never did that

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:44 (six years ago) Permalink

Wasn't one K. Clarke famously anti-Murdoch at one point? He's been quite quiet too.

What a day this was. Cmon Tuesday already.

stet, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:49 (six years ago) Permalink

So where is Cameron that he needs to be secretive, Afghanistan - surely too dangerous currently (and hasn't he just been there)? Iraq? Scotland?

that was the last arrow in my quiver of whimsy (Ned Trifle II), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:52 (six years ago) Permalink

Australia, obv. Murdoch's mom is already getting her knife ready.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:53 (six years ago) Permalink

libya?

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:53 (six years ago) Permalink

He's en route to South Africa.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:54 (six years ago) Permalink

any chance if cameron cred was destroted lib dems would make common cause w labour and form new coalition?

by another name (amateurist), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:56 (six years ago) Permalink

the lib dem leadership would need to be completely removed, don't think there are any likely insurgents from outside the cabinet

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:57 (six years ago) Permalink

triumphant return of charlie kennedy would be fun tho

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:58 (six years ago) Permalink

"Secondly, once Mr Wallis's name did become associated with Operation Weeting, I did not want to compromise the Prime Minister in any way by revealing or discussing a potential suspect who clearly had a close relationship with Mr Coulson. I am aware of the many political exchanges in relation to Mr Coulson's previous employment — I believe it would have been extraordinarily clumsy of me to have exposed the Prime Minister, or by association the Home Secretary, to any accusation, however unfair, as a consequence of them being in possession of operational information in this regard. Similarly, the Mayor. Because of the individuals involved, their positions and relationships, these were I believe unique circumstances.

I'm still trying to get to get to grips with this bit. It's late and I'm tired, can someone re-write it for me in one sentence?

that was the last arrow in my quiver of whimsy (Ned Trifle II), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:59 (six years ago) Permalink

"I'm a coward and I hate myself but I hate Cameron even more."

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:00 (six years ago) Permalink

Dunno but Cam's guys are spinning vehemently against Stephenson as we speak. Nothing so entertaining as a falling out of thieves.

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:01 (six years ago) Permalink

have we done this bit about honest copper Paul Stephenson yet?

Ahead of a planned appearance before MPs on Tuesday, it was revealed Sir Paul enjoyed a free three-week stay earlier this year at Champney’s, a leading health spa, following surgery. Champney’s was at the time employing Mr Wallis, a former News of the World journalist, who also gave public relations advice to the Met. The New York Times has also alleged Mr Wallis reported back to News International while he worked for the police.

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:04 (six years ago) Permalink

Wait, so if nobody in politics, the press or the police can be trusted at face value anymore, who's going to investigate all of this? Are judges the only institution not yet involved?

StanM, Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:04 (six years ago) Permalink

clearly it will be arbitrated the the britain's got talent judges

by another name (amateurist), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:05 (six years ago) Permalink

BY the

by another name (amateurist), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:05 (six years ago) Permalink

"britain's got corruption"

by another name (amateurist), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:05 (six years ago) Permalink

http://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/13956-simon_cowell_really_musical_authority.jpg

"I don't mean to be rude but you all completely suck."

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:07 (six years ago) Permalink

xps - it's ok, it was just a mate of his giving him £12k worth of bed and board for nought - no biggie...

that was the last arrow in my quiver of whimsy (Ned Trifle II), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:07 (six years ago) Permalink

this is by far the most entertaining political bloodbath i've seen, though more annuated ilx users will doubtless wish to have their say

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:07 (six years ago) Permalink

w/r/t politics, if this claims tory scalps, so far i don't think labour's prospects are really better than they were a few weeks ago. miliband is doing no more than voicing public opinion; he's still a weak candidate without a convincing story about unemployment, economic restructuring, curbing the power of the banks and corporations, lowering the cost of living, etc etc etc. that isn't irrelevant to this crisis, which is partly about a conspiracy of what used openly and unironically to be called top people against everyone else.

so brycey (history mayne), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:08 (six years ago) Permalink

It's basically down to the X-Factor panel, who have often been accused of vote rigging, but found to be innocent in every incident.

xpost I SAID IT FIRST!!

Mark G, Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:08 (six years ago) Permalink

i was young and naive and optimistic but i think there was a moment during the Westland scandal when it really felt like Thatcher was on the way out. this is far more satisfying and far-reaching tho i think.

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:12 (six years ago) Permalink

New Guardian piece

The Guardian has learned that Scotland Yard chiefs invited Wallis to apply for a senior communications post with the force in 2009, a decision Stephenson was aware of. Wallis was approached to apply for the two day a month contract by the Met, following discussions involving the forces's most senior figures.

A source with close knowledge of the Yard's thinking at the time said part of Wallis's attraction was his connection to former News of the World editor Coulson, who was a leading aide to Cameron, then in opposition and expected to become prime minister.

Part of the Met's thinking was that Wallis's connections would help the force's relationship with Cameron: "One (Wallis) is a lot cheaper and gives you direct access into No 10," the source added.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:13 (six years ago) Permalink

what would have happened with all this w/o the moral authority of the poor dead teenager's family? if it was just celebs and royals? would it have the same traction?

by another name (amateurist), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:16 (six years ago) Permalink

xxxp

The narrative that EMil is starting to develop is that once Wapping has been pulled down and the fields sown with salt, the political landscape of the country will change for the better and the Labour party will rise from its tomb and effect real social change free from the scaremongering of a Murdochite press.

This is bollocks obviously but

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:16 (six years ago) Permalink

you'd have thought the mail could have picked a more suitable time to try and bring the bbc down but no

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2015829/Melanie-Phillips-If-Miliband-hero-wont-tackle-REAL-threat-way-life--BBC.html

prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:16 (six years ago) Permalink

this is by far the most entertaining political bloodbath i've seen, though more annuated ilx users will doubtless wish to have their say

http://enemiesofreason.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/11qhf7o.jpg

NEVER FORGET

that was the last arrow in my quiver of whimsy (Ned Trifle II), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:16 (six years ago) Permalink

But for years now, the BBC has instead been playing to the lowest common denominator

now i'm enough of a snob about the Beeb but nobody who's seen ITV or Sky's original programming cd write this with a straight face

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:19 (six years ago) Permalink

what would have happened with all this w/o the moral authority of the poor dead teenager's family? if it was just celebs and royals? would it have the same traction?

Well that's kinda the point in all of this as I understand it, that HAD been happening all this time and no major traction came of it beyond Coulson's resignation a while back, though the new police investigation had been continuing. Then the news breaks about said teenager's phone and now we're here.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:20 (six years ago) Permalink

what would have happened with all this w/o the moral authority of the poor dead teenager's family? if it was just celebs and royals? would it have the same traction?

― by another name (amateurist), Sunday, July 17, 2011 11:16 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

answer is something like 'probably not'. notw staff were jailed for hacking royal/celeb phones years ago but the weirdly sustained fiction was that the editors knew nothing.

so brycey (history mayne), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:23 (six years ago) Permalink

i was young and naive and optimistic but i think there was a moment during the Westland scandal when it really felt like Thatcher was on the way out. this is far more satisfying and far-reaching tho i think.

This is looking to be the scandal of a generation. The very fact that Rupert Murdoch is at the centre of it all and has no control whatsoever of the story speaks volumes.

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:24 (six years ago) Permalink

The other considerable factor is the feeling that many politicians have broken loose of NI and seem incredibly excited about it.

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:27 (six years ago) Permalink

He's en route to South Africa.

Someone else just said South America(which is a bit vague). Is is normally a secret when the PM goes abroad (to places that aren't war zones)?

a more annuated ilx user (Ned Trifle II), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:37 (six years ago) Permalink

xpost -- Yeah, that's the thing I'm sensing too, if only because part of the story seems to have clearly shifted to how NI in all its forms is reporting (or more to the point, not reporting or misreporting) the story. WSJ interview seen as crass defiance, Fox and Friends piece widely mocked of course, etc., and of course above all that the NotW closing -- rather than tone-setting it's all sounding like an extended flail. Ergo, if they try to attack any politician going at them, what exactly would it achieve?

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:37 (six years ago) Permalink

I thought that when I read the Gordon Brown Is Going Mad Again piece in the STimes this morning. All a bit desperate.

a more annuated ilx user (Ned Trifle II), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:42 (six years ago) Permalink

you could see this as another example in a half decade full of them that there is a club at the top of society that appears to just shit on everyone for fun

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:43 (six years ago) Permalink

^^^Apparently Ed Miliband is going to tie this into a culture of irresponsibility ie. bankers' behaviour and the like.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:44 (six years ago) Permalink

Miliband will use a speech in the City of London on Monday to widen his attack on Britain's "untouchables" – scandal-dogged bankers, politicians and now the media, who think they are above the law – by identifying other groups whose conduct puts them in the same category. After Sir Paul Stephenson's resignation the police too are expected to join the Labour leader's list.

^^^Guardian, just up...

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:47 (six years ago) Permalink

that sounds promising. pretty much everyone who has worked in the_city deserves a mallet to the nuts tbqf.

so brycey (history mayne), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:49 (six years ago) Permalink

Hmm seems a bit of a shit angle; this is strong enough on its own, it doesn't need a larger narrative. You dont want this to seem too big to fix; you want itbboiled down "here is a really clear and obvious crime: so sack x and y; do Z; all will be well". Not "oh woe what a massive systemic mess we are, the only answer is nothing simple or pat and leaves lots of room for argument"

Depends how he sells it, I guess. Oh.

stet, Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:52 (six years ago) Permalink

Depends how he sells it, I guess. Oh.

haha. yerce.

so brycey (history mayne), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:53 (six years ago) Permalink

If he turns up with a mallets for everyone plan I'm right behind him, tho

stet, Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:53 (six years ago) Permalink

Miliband will use a speech in the City of London on Monday to widen his attack on Britain's "untouchables" – scandal-dogged bankers, politicians and now the media, who think they are above the law – by identifying other groups whose conduct puts them in the same category. After Sir Paul Stephenson's resignation the police too are expected to join the Labour leader's list.
^^^Guardian, just up...

― natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, July 17, 2011 11:47 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

weird coincidence: the anti-corruption task force in the met that andy hayman led and john yates served in during the late 90s-early 2000s was nicknamed the "untouchables", but allegedly spent a lot of time covering up corruption, pinning the blame on a few suckers and smearing innocent officers who got in their way.

joe, Sunday, 17 July 2011 23:02 (six years ago) Permalink

Is this the thing where they were dobbing officers of colour into disciplinaries and terrorism referrals?

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 23:12 (six years ago) Permalink

From the BBC comments:

If the Met hired Wallis, did the govt hire Grommit?

I am sorry, but I lol'd

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 17 July 2011 23:15 (six years ago) Permalink

Brooks finally bailed. See you all in the morning.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 23:27 (six years ago) Permalink

Well that was quick:

12.11am: The Guardian's chief political correspondent, Nick Watt, has some more details about David Cameron being informed of Stephenson's resignation. He says the prime minister was told of the news at 7.20pm, en route from Heathrow to South Africa.

Downing Street made contact with the prime minister while he was on board his Virgin plane shortly before the commissioner's statement was released.

The prime minister spoke from his first class cabin by satellite phone to the home secretary, Theresa May, and officials before releasing his own statement at around 9.30pm.

Downing Street officials said at the time that the prime minister would press ahead with his two-day visit to South Africa and Nigeria.

12.21am: David Cameron has cancelled plans to visit Rwanda and Sudan during his visit to Africa in order to return earlier to the UK.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 23:28 (six years ago) Permalink

From a linked story:

David Cameron begins a two-day visit to Africa which has been curtailed to allow the prime minister to fly home early to finalise the terms and membership of Lord Justice Leveson's inquiry into the media.

In his first visit to sub-Saharan Africa as prime minister, Cameron will fly into South Africa with a message that an African free trade area could increase GDP across the continent by more than it currently receives in aid.

He will praise his generation for marching against African debt and for holding concerts to raise funds for aid to the continent.

But in article in the South African Business Day he will call for a change of approach. "They have never once had a march or a concert to call for what will in the long term save far more lives and do far more good – an African free trade area," he writes.

But Cameron's free trade message is likely to be overshadowed by events back home following the arrest of Rebekah Brooks, the former chief executive of News International, who entertained the prime minister at her Oxfordshire home over the Christmas period.

Downing Street aides, who had at one point considered cancelling the trip altogether at the height of the phone-hacking crisis last week, instead decided to cut it back from four days to two. Cameron will now just visit South Africa and Nigeriaon Tuesday. Plans to visit Rwanda and Sudan have been scrapped.

Time has been found in the diary to allow No 10 aides – and possibly the prime minister – to watch the appearance by Rupert and James Murdoch.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 23:29 (six years ago) Permalink

Charges re: Brooks:

She was arrested by appointment at a London police station on suspicion of conspiring to intercept communications, contrary to Section 1(1) Criminal Law Act 1977 and on suspicion of corruption allegations contrary to Section 1 of the Prevention of Corruption Act 1906.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 23:32 (six years ago) Permalink

lol hey africa we care, honest! oh wait we don't because some rich old dude has a problem.

� (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 23:47 (six years ago) Permalink

Time has been found in the diary to allow No 10 aides – and possibly the prime minister – to watch the appearance by Rupert and James Murdoch.

jeez david this is not an opportunity to socialise

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Sunday, 17 July 2011 23:59 (six years ago) Permalink

Australia, obv. Murdoch's mom is already getting her knife ready.

Ned you keep citing Dame Elis as panto eminence gris, but since all her recent treatment in Ncorp press is that she's either senile or brainwashed for going off-message in re Carboncategate, is there really any actual connection w/ Rupert at all post-Deng?

dave kohl (sic), Monday, 18 July 2011 00:16 (six years ago) Permalink

lol

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 July 2011 00:18 (six years ago) Permalink

What better way to exact revenge, my friend.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 00:57 (six years ago) Permalink

ONE LIZ TO ANOTHER: PM's flight to Oz leads to a trussing

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 00:58 (six years ago) Permalink

Guardian reviews Stephenson statement.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 01:29 (six years ago) Permalink

so much for editorial indpendence for the wall street journal

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303661904576451812776293184.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop

prolego, Monday, 18 July 2011 06:09 (six years ago) Permalink

Guardian finally manages to implicate Dan Wooton:

The connections between Champneys and News International's papers, in particular the Sun and the News of the World, are extensive. They involve several promotional reader offers promising discounts and two-for-one deals at the spa, and the papers' coverage of the resort has also been generous.

In the last year, the News of the World ran a string of stories about Champneys. One, by showbiz reporter Dan Wooton, reported "a pal" of pop singer Pixie Lott and model Oliver Cheshire saying how they "wanted some quiet time so they had a four-day romantic break at Champneys in Tring in Hertfordshire".

Amanda Holden devoted most of her column one week describing a break at the spa with two friends, in particular detailing Charlie Brooks's kriotherapy centre offering "a new treatment which should blitz our cellulite!"

It did not stop there. Girls Aloud singer Sarah Harding eulogised about spa's "non-surgical facelifts", and Flavia Cacace, a dancer on Strictly Come Dancing told the paper: "I like to go to Champneys Spa for a facial and a massage."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/jul/18/champneys-spa-paul-stephenson-phone-hacking

James Mitchell, Monday, 18 July 2011 06:21 (six years ago) Permalink

Wooton going to jail would give me more pleasure than anything

prolego, Monday, 18 July 2011 07:00 (six years ago) Permalink

^^^^yes.

lex pretend, Monday, 18 July 2011 07:57 (six years ago) Permalink

Wooton is significant, why?

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2011 08:59 (six years ago) Permalink

Fuck, RAF Leuchars is closing as part of the defense review. I live in Leuchars, and it's really the only source of jobs - everyone I know works for the MOD or is married to someone who does. There used to be a paper mill here, but that closed a few years ago, so it's just dishwashing and bedmaking in St Andrews. Place is going to be a ghost town. Still, people in the forces will insist on voting Tory, no matter what, and Fife votes Lib Dem, until the last Scottish election, so I guess we're reaping what we sow.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 09:04 (six years ago) Permalink

Another example of the tories screwing Scotland, of course. But I guess it'll get buried by the NI story to a large degree.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 09:16 (six years ago) Permalink

Who's who by Businessweek, don't think it's been linked here before:

http://images.businessweek.com/cms/2011-07-14/004-openingremarks30_2.jpg

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 18 July 2011 09:22 (six years ago) Permalink

Crap, how do I shot it being readable?

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 18 July 2011 09:23 (six years ago) Permalink

Sigh.. sorry guys.

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 18 July 2011 09:24 (six years ago) Permalink

Don't worry, Clive Goodman's Harry Redknapp impersonation is worth seeing twice.

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 09:26 (six years ago) Permalink

Firefox users: right-click on the pic and select 'View Image'

Servants of the SBankh (snoball), Monday, 18 July 2011 09:26 (six years ago) Permalink

^^ that indeed helps, thanks Snoball!

@NickB: LOL

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 18 July 2011 09:29 (six years ago) Permalink

James Murdoch, the beleagured News Corporation executive, has received a ringing endorsement from MMR manufacturer, GlaxoSmithKline according to Reuters news agency on Friday. GSK who appointed him to their board in February 2009 insist Murdoch has made “a strong contribution” to the group and received share payments worth $158,000 in 2010. Murdoch was appointed to the board of the pharmaceutical manufacturer with a brief to “review…external issues that might have the potential for serious impact upon the group's business and reputation."

Within a fortnight of his appointment News International had published at least 5 articles attacking MMR researcher Andrew Wakefield’s integrity.

http://www.ageofautism.com/2011/07/james-murdoch-is-still-supported-by-glaxosmithkline.html

James Mitchell, Monday, 18 July 2011 09:46 (six years ago) Permalink

hmm that may be true but wouldn't credit anything from a site that defends Wakefield.

ledge, Monday, 18 July 2011 09:53 (six years ago) Permalink

christ

who shivs a git (darraghmac), Monday, 18 July 2011 09:53 (six years ago) Permalink

Wakefield didn't really need a Murdoch to discredit him.

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 July 2011 09:55 (six years ago) Permalink

from the site that brought you The Age of Autism:
Mercury, Medicine, and a Man-Made Epidemic

i.e. it's Mercury Hat time

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 July 2011 09:56 (six years ago) Permalink

I keep staring at NV's judgesiren.jpg. Infuriating how it doesn't blare.

*throws Noodle Vague a http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu216/le_bateau_ivre/UEKoi.gif *

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 18 July 2011 09:57 (six years ago) Permalink

drudgesiren, even

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 18 July 2011 09:57 (six years ago) Permalink

I would rather NI had published pro-big pharma propaganda if that means they were also publishing anti-Wakefield propaganda, if you see what I mean.

Neil S, Monday, 18 July 2011 09:57 (six years ago) Permalink

i wd rather not pick a side in terms of good guys and bad guys but i guess Wakefield and co. have arguably done more harm over the short term

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 July 2011 09:58 (six years ago) Permalink

if we could just roll up every major news story of the last decade into this that would be fab.

ledge, Monday, 18 July 2011 10:13 (six years ago) Permalink

Apparently there's some hilarious Fox & Friends bit where they have the NOTW as the victims,

Don't remember that bit...

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51PRANTGW8L._SL500_AA300_.jpg

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Monday, 18 July 2011 10:19 (six years ago) Permalink

37. Hello Goodbye Single (Points: 238, Voters: 10, Number Ones: 1)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLAcxCkjqJs&feature=related

Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2011 10:34 (six years ago) Permalink

haha

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 18 July 2011 10:55 (six years ago) Permalink

A little melody to help you through your day..

A comment on the short tenure of the chief of police there....

(ahem.. tiptoes away)

Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2011 10:58 (six years ago) Permalink

Inspector Gadget commenters are more upset with Stephenson for a) making them wear ties and b) not allowing them Tasers than anything, you know, substantive.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2011 11:01 (six years ago) Permalink

Them coppas were queueing up and fighting amongst themselves to have a go at tazering RMoat "No let me" "Gerrof, I want to" "SARGE!!!"... etc.

Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2011 11:03 (six years ago) Permalink

"But I would say that the situation in the Metropolitan police service is really quite different to the situation in government so suck on that Boris"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-14182703

Ned Trifle X, Monday, 18 July 2011 11:04 (six years ago) Permalink

The Metropolitan police authority is currently holding a meeting to discuss Mr Yates' handling of the phone hacking affair and his links with Mr Wallis, a former senior executive at the News of the World.

It is understood the authority has decided to hold an investigation into the assistant commissioner. It is expected he will be asked to step down while this investigation is carried out.

A source close to the mayor told The Daily Telegraph: "If an investigation is ongoing he cannot stay in his job."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/phone-hacking/8645011/Phone-Hacking-John-Yates-to-be-suspended-over-Neil-Wallis-links.html

James Mitchell, Monday, 18 July 2011 11:05 (six years ago) Permalink

Although it's not like Boris is still in charge of the MPA, so it's not like he's trying to grab the glory for himself.

James Mitchell, Monday, 18 July 2011 11:05 (six years ago) Permalink

oh nononono nooo

Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2011 11:08 (six years ago) Permalink

Just thinking about annoying style journalist, initials DJ, whose fealty to Cameron caused an industry to sick up onto its taxi shoes...

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2011 11:13 (six years ago) Permalink

Yes, excellent choice - please let him be implicated...

Yates gone now?

Ned Trifle X, Monday, 18 July 2011 11:16 (six years ago) Permalink

Soundtrack for today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEO7AtBvmgA

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2011 11:20 (six years ago) Permalink

was going to link to this just in case anyone wanted an overview, but it has some pretty fun moments:

Nick Davies had been alerted that Brooks had told colleagues that the story was going to end with “Alan Rusbridger on his knees, begging for mercy.” “They would have destroyed us,” Davies said on a Guardian podcast last week. “If they could have done, they would have shut down The Guardian.”

http://www.newsweek.com/2011/07/17/how-the-guardian-broke-the-news-of-the-world-hacking-scandal.html#

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Monday, 18 July 2011 11:59 (six years ago) Permalink

Those evil far left Liberal Democrat supporters

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Monday, 18 July 2011 12:02 (six years ago) Permalink

“Alan Rusbridger on his knees, begging for mercy."

oh man the more i hear about this story the more i love this woman

c sharp major, Monday, 18 July 2011 12:03 (six years ago) Permalink

she is the greatest villainess of all time

c sharp major, Monday, 18 July 2011 12:04 (six years ago) Permalink

I mean... who in the world could you cast that would do justice to her? She is amazing.

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 July 2011 12:04 (six years ago) Permalink

TILDA SWINTON

c sharp major, Monday, 18 July 2011 12:05 (six years ago) Permalink

that just might work!

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 July 2011 12:05 (six years ago) Permalink

That was the day the NOTW was shut down

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 July 2011 12:07 (six years ago) Permalink

TILDA SWINTON

... and featuring, in his first dramatic role, as David Cameron, PM... Michael McIntyre

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Monday, 18 July 2011 12:08 (six years ago) Permalink

lol @ tilda swinton, word. tilda swinton reprising her role from the last ten minutes of michael clayton.
the bit where she was saying that the guardian 'had it in for them' to departing staff is still the thing that kills me, that you could be so mired in shit & still see it as a conspiracy.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Monday, 18 July 2011 12:09 (six years ago) Permalink

It's weird to be able to actually enjoy the Guardian being smug about something

MPx4A, Monday, 18 July 2011 12:10 (six years ago) Permalink

Scotland Yard's Assistant Commissioner John Yates says he's done "nothing wrong", amid speculation he could be suspended over the phone-hacking scandal. He tells reporters who ask if his position is untenable: "Give me a break."

LOL, what a twat

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Monday, 18 July 2011 12:11 (six years ago) Permalink

xxxxxpost
I like the way it appears there's a little mutant hand trying to get out of her chest.

The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Monday, 18 July 2011 12:11 (six years ago) Permalink

i was thinking nicole kidman (botox would help, when have you ever seen our rebekah have a facial expression) but SWINTON seems perfect

lex pretend, Monday, 18 July 2011 12:14 (six years ago) Permalink

or cate blanchett for full rebekah brooks/elizabeth i crossover

lex pretend, Monday, 18 July 2011 12:14 (six years ago) Permalink

great opportunity for a bonnie langford comeback here

Once Were Moderators (DG), Monday, 18 July 2011 12:21 (six years ago) Permalink

shameless wall street journal editorial: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303661904576451812776293184.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop

as bad in a way as that fox & friends clip

max, Monday, 18 July 2011 12:26 (six years ago) Permalink

Our readers can decide if we are a better publication than we were four years ago, but there is no denying that News Corp. has invested in the product. The news hole is larger. Our foreign coverage in particular is more robust, our weekend edition more substantial, and our expansion into digital delivery ahead of the pack. The measure that really matters is the market's, and on that score Mr. Hinton was at the helm when we again became America's largest daily.

Another day of chucking journalism down the news hole...

Neil S, Monday, 18 July 2011 12:36 (six years ago) Permalink

The overnight turn toward righteous independence recalls an eternal truth: Never trust a politician.

And uh, uh, I know you are, but what am I?!?

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 July 2011 12:42 (six years ago) Permalink

Hearing that Cameron was about to employ Coulson, the editor of the Graun let him (and, separately, Clegg) know that

in 2005 Coulson’s NotW had rehired as one of its investigators a man named Jonathan Rees, who was just out of prison having served a seven-year sentence for planting cocaine on an innocent woman. Rees was now in prison, awaiting trial for conspiracy to murder his former business partner, a man who had been found in a pub parking lot with an ax in his head.

He appeared rather dismissive of its significance and only a little rattled.

dave kohl (sic), Monday, 18 July 2011 12:50 (six years ago) Permalink

cate blanchett is one of the most beautiful women in the world and rebekah brooks looks like a regla at an ayrshire magistrates court

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 July 2011 13:01 (six years ago) Permalink

sic, and to boot, Rees was spying on the police officers in charge of investigating him for that murder! Of course he couldn't do the spying himself since his every move was being watched so he hired.... NotW people to do the job for him! joe linked that article in the other thread, it's here -

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/06/news-of-the-world-rebekah-brooks

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 July 2011 13:01 (six years ago) Permalink

There's a part of me that wants to spend a night with her.

abcfsk, Monday, 18 July 2011 13:02 (six years ago) Permalink

nakh while i agree tbh I don't think Blanchett has the think-bones to do Brooks justice

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 July 2011 13:03 (six years ago) Permalink

@BBCMichaelCrick Gordon Brown was so keen on judicial inquiry into hacking that it was even an item in May 2010 Lab Lib Dem Coalition negotiations

Serve it cold, Gordon...

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2011 13:05 (six years ago) Permalink

David Cameron tried his best to look interested during a lengthy business Q&A just now at the Johannesburg Stock Exchange; but his mind is undoubtedly elsewhere, several thousand miles to the north, where the phone hacking saga is yielding new twists and turns by the hour.

But he looked a bit more alert when Jason Groves of the Daily Mail – alluding to Ed Miliband’s comments this morning – asked whether he was considering his position as prime minister.

The answer was rather rambling and gave neither a negative or affirmative. Cameron must realise that “prime minister refuses to quit” would be a gift for the press.

http://blogs.ft.com/westminster/2011/07/david-cameron-asked-if-he-will-consider-quitting/

James Mitchell, Monday, 18 July 2011 13:06 (six years ago) Permalink


James Chapman, the Mail’s political editor, has pointed out that the odds of David Cameron quitting the cabinet first are now (at 12-1) shorter than those of Caroline Spelman (at 16-1).

hahaha

ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

lex pretend, Monday, 18 July 2011 13:10 (six years ago) Permalink

spelman of the forest-selling, lest we forget

lex pretend, Monday, 18 July 2011 13:10 (six years ago) Permalink

More from Cameron's ramble:

The British Government, in terms of this phone-hacking scandal, has taken all of the appropriate action. ...
I feel I have been out there in Parliament and in press conferences, fully answering the questions, fully transparent, very clear about what needs to be done, making sure that Britain gets to the bottom of what has been a terrible episode in terms of what newspapers have done, hacking into private data, and also some very big questions about potential police corruption - we need to get to the bottom of those.
I've said very clearly as a politician that the relationship between politicians and media hasn't been right.
The music has stopped on my watch and I am determined to get to the bottom of it to make sure we have a better relationship in the future and to put these things right.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 13:12 (six years ago) Permalink

I’m going to make a big statement...

Because I'm a big statesman. No, really I am.

Ned Trifle X, Monday, 18 July 2011 13:14 (six years ago) Permalink

yates has resigned, sez twitter

so jaded that i can barely muster a shrug, our sights are surely on bigger fish now

lex pretend, Monday, 18 July 2011 13:14 (six years ago) Permalink

"He's so nervous, avoiding all the questions"

Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2011 13:14 (six years ago) Permalink

BBC:

BREAKING NEWS:Met Police Assistant Commissioner John Yates resigns amid criticism of his investigation into phone hacking

Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2011 13:15 (six years ago) Permalink

I've said very clearly as a politician that the relationship between politicians and media hasn't been right...in fact I was only saying that to Rebekah the other day, but she told me to stop being such a worrier and once they got Rusbridger on his knees it would all be fine...

Ned Trifle X, Monday, 18 July 2011 13:16 (six years ago) Permalink

Scotland Yard's Assistant Commissioner John Yates says he's done "nothing wrong", amid speculation he could be suspended over the phone-hacking scandal. He tells reporters who ask if his position is untenable: "Give me a break. I resign"

fixed

Ned Trifle X, Monday, 18 July 2011 13:18 (six years ago) Permalink

How many resignations from people who have done absolutely nothing wrong are we on now?

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 July 2011 13:19 (six years ago) Permalink

It's the old get-out, used oft in the past, see Dame Shirley Porter or Jeffrey Archer:

"I have done nothing wrong" which is a matter of (someone's) opinion,

vs

"I have done nothing illegal" which is something that can be established.

Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2011 13:22 (six years ago) Permalink

Wonder if Cressida Dick will still be thinking about Jean Charles de Menezes "every day" in her new role?

James Mitchell, Monday, 18 July 2011 13:42 (six years ago) Permalink

great opportunity for a bonnie langford comeback here

this was a quality lol

Spotify, Spotify me (DJP), Monday, 18 July 2011 13:47 (six years ago) Permalink

this hacking scandal has caused such a distraction to my work that i am also resigning today

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 July 2011 13:53 (six years ago) Permalink

uh ruPert

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 July 2011 14:00 (six years ago) Permalink

this hacking scandal has caused such a distraction to my work that i am also resigning today

Yes, I'm finding it really hard to concentrate today!

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Monday, 18 July 2011 14:01 (six years ago) Permalink

no we have to get work done today because tomorrow it'll be impossible what with the select committee and all

lex pretend, Monday, 18 July 2011 14:02 (six years ago) Permalink

Are we getting called up, or just cited?

Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2011 14:04 (six years ago) Permalink

Don't think anyone could blame me for finding "Hostile & Generous Toleration (A New Theory of Toleration)" by George Jacob Holyoake not exactly riveting

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Monday, 18 July 2011 14:05 (six years ago) Permalink

Imagine the Manic Street Preachers are reading it alongside you.

Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2011 14:07 (six years ago) Permalink

xp

wd read tbh

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 July 2011 14:08 (six years ago) Permalink

Things are looking up, I'm on to "Life and Death (Part I. - Death)"

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Monday, 18 July 2011 14:08 (six years ago) Permalink

No spoilers.

ledge, Monday, 18 July 2011 14:09 (six years ago) Permalink

Wait, part I?

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 14:09 (six years ago) Permalink

part 1?
xp

pandemic, Monday, 18 July 2011 14:10 (six years ago) Permalink

Part II is yr phone gets hacked.

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 14:10 (six years ago) Permalink

lol

pandemic, Monday, 18 July 2011 14:11 (six years ago) Permalink

Part III is You're Fired.

Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2011 14:12 (six years ago) Permalink

14.54 Boris Johnson appears to have lost his temper at a question from Jon Snow, answers in raised voice. Starting to look more flustered than usual; fiddles with his tie. And to another question - "Come on, be fair".

Finally, challenged again on dismissing hacking as codswallop, says: "I misunderstood the severity of the allegations." Blames poor information he was given.

This guy.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 14:15 (six years ago) Permalink

"Come on, be fair" shd be the Tory campaign slogan for 2012.

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 July 2011 14:16 (six years ago) Permalink

2.58pm: You just effectively sacked two of the most senior officers in London, the mayor is told.

"Yeah ... That's not an operational matter," Johnson says. And with that the press conference is over.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 14:17 (six years ago) Permalink

Jon Snow?

Spotify, Spotify me (DJP), Monday, 18 July 2011 14:18 (six years ago) Permalink

... and Part II is......... Life! They got that one arse over tit there.

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Monday, 18 July 2011 14:19 (six years ago) Permalink

xpost -- is this the real life, is this just fantasy, etc.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 14:21 (six years ago) Permalink

A sick masochistic part of me wants to turn on Fox News today.

Josef K-Doe (WmC), Monday, 18 July 2011 14:21 (six years ago) Permalink

Why are you bored of the scandal? You wpn't find it reported there.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 18 July 2011 14:22 (six years ago) Permalink

ha, true. Just thought Doocey might do some more spinning, but Fox & Friends is already over today.

Josef K-Doe (WmC), Monday, 18 July 2011 14:23 (six years ago) Permalink

Death is four pages longer than Life :(

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Monday, 18 July 2011 14:26 (six years ago) Permalink

Thankfully it's mostly footnotes.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 14:27 (six years ago) Permalink

Meantime I note Sullivan's back blogging and has things to say, thus here and here. I admit to being amused:

I've lived in America for twenty-five years, and yet I can come home as a native son and personally knew at college the current Mayor of London (an Oxford Union successor), the Foreign Secretary (an Oxford Union predecessor), the editor of the Economist (Magdalen history), and from Reigate Grammar School, the director of strategy at Number 10, the director of public prosecutions and, last but not least, Fatboy Slim.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 14:30 (six years ago) Permalink

Death is four pages longer than Life :(

― R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Monday, 18 July 2011 15:26 (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Thankfully it's mostly footnotes.

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 15:27 (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/150571/150571,1247024235,1/stock-photo-human-feet-with-toe-tag-bar-code-33300391.jpg

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Monday, 18 July 2011 14:37 (six years ago) Permalink

I love how this reads:

15.40 Theresa May says the Met is stronger today than when Sir Paul Stephenson took over. She has agreed he should leave "as swiftly as possible".

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 14:44 (six years ago) Permalink

News America was led by Paul V. Carlucci [who engaged in unethical and illegal practices that eventually forced settlements exceeding $500 million], who, according to Forbes, used to show the sales staff the scene in “The Untouchables” in which Al Capone beats a man to death with a baseball bat. Mr. Emmel testified that Mr. Carlucci was clear about the guiding corporate philosophy.

According to Mr. Emmel’s testimony, Mr. Carlucci said that if there were employees uncomfortable with the company’s philosophy — “bed-wetting liberals in particular was the description he used” Mr. Emmel testified — then he could arrange to have those employees “outplaced from the company.”

So what became of him? Mr. Carlucci, as it happens, became the publisher of The New York Post in 2005 and continues to serve as head of News America, which doesn’t exactly square with Mr. Murdoch’s recently stated desire to “absolutely establish our integrity in the eyes of the public.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/18/business/media/for-news-corporation-troubles-that-money-cant-dispel.html

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 July 2011 14:46 (six years ago) Permalink

The Guardian's fault for the typo but even so:

May concludes by saying that many Met officers serve the public bravely. An officer was short in the course of his duties only three days ago. It is for their sake that these inquiries need to be successful.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 14:50 (six years ago) Permalink

Now, since ‘News International Associated Services’ is a News International subsidiary based in Wapping, it’s fairly clear that the GLA has paid a Murdoch company several thousand pounds for something, reasonably regularly, during 2009/2010.

Around that time, we know that the now defunct Murdoch freesheet The London Paper was running advertorials for Boris’s shiny new Story of London festival:

Publicity for the Story of London Festival was mainly through the GLA website, poster campaign and pamphlet supported by articles in the ‘londonpaper’.

Yes, if you close down your ‘Pyong-Yang style freesheet’ you effectively end up paying, well, Rupert Murdoch to print your PR.

http://www.boriswatch.co.uk/2011/07/14/boris-and-murdoch-part-1-cash/

James Mitchell, Monday, 18 July 2011 14:55 (six years ago) Permalink

4.23pm: PoliticalBetting is taking the prospect of David Cameron quitting quite seriously, reports Paul Owen.

The website's respected guru Mike Smithson reports that Ladbrokes has tightened the price on Cameron's being the next cabinet member to quit the government from 100/1 ten days ago to 12/1 now. Stan James offers 7/1 against Cameron not lasting the year.

Of the frontrunners to replace Cameron, David Davis represents "outstanding value" at 33/1, and Smithson has put some money down. Boris Johnson is top of the heap at 4/1, despite his not being an MP. Paul's own tip to replace Cameron would be William Hague, whose reputation and image as a statesman have steadily and markedly improved since he was last Tory leader – give or take a few embarrassing stories about his sleeping arrangements.

Ugh, Boris.

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 15:28 (six years ago) Permalink

Paul's own tip to replace Cameron would be William Hague, whose reputation and image as a statesman have steadily and markedly improved since he was last Tory leader

bleeeaarrghhhhh

lex pretend, Monday, 18 July 2011 15:29 (six years ago) Permalink

THOUGHT WE WERE RID OF HIM A DECADE AGO >:(

lex pretend, Monday, 18 July 2011 15:29 (six years ago) Permalink

He's back and balder than ever.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 15:31 (six years ago) Permalink

does he still have his beard

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 July 2011 15:35 (six years ago) Permalink

Inquiries inquiries inquiries:

• IPCC oversight of Operation Elveden:
Operation Elveden, looking into corruption, is being supervised by the Independent Police Complaints Commission. As soon as individual suspected officers have been identified, IPCC investigators will lead an independent investigation of those officers. Both of these matters will then be considered by the Leveson Inquiry, already established by the Prime Minister.
• Review of police-press relations:
Elizabeth Filkin, the former Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards, has "provisionally agreed to examine the ethical considerations that should, in future, underpin the relationships between the Metropolitan Police and the media, how to ensure maximum transparency and public confidence, and provide advice".
The management board of the Met has "agreed a new set of guidelines relating to relationships with the media, including recording meetings and hospitality and publication on the internet".
• Investigation into police corruption:
Her Majesty's Inspectorate of Constabulary (HMIC) has been asked to consider "instances of undue influence, inappropriate contractual arrangements and other abuses of power in police relationships with the media and other parties".
• Review of IPCC powers:
IPCC chief executive, Jane Furniss, has told the Home Secretary she has the power she needs for now but the Home Secretary has "commissioned work to consider whether the IPCC needs further powers, including whether it should be given the power to question civilian witnesses during the course of their investigations".
Ms May said: "Given that the IPCC can at present only investigate specific allegations against individual officers, I have also asked whether the Commission needs to have a greater role in investigating allegations about institutional failings of a force or forces."

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 15:36 (six years ago) Permalink

Oh and:

16.35 Breaking: David Cameron will now curtail his Africa trip - having already shortened it once and insisted earlier today he would not do so again.

At this rate he'll be refused reentry as an undesirable.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 15:37 (six years ago) Permalink

i so want one of the principles to try to flee the country while they can

lex pretend, Monday, 18 July 2011 15:38 (six years ago) Permalink

Re: Hague. Let's put the (purely platonic) bed sharing with attractive pouting young (male) political "advisers" to one side then, shall we?

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Monday, 18 July 2011 15:38 (six years ago) Permalink

PRINCIPALS

godfkndamnit

lex pretend, Monday, 18 July 2011 15:38 (six years ago) Permalink

The principles themselves having long since gone.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 15:40 (six years ago) Permalink

4.38pm: My colleague Vikram Dodd tells me that the home affairs committee has Lord Macdonald, director of public prosecutions at at the time of the first phone hacking prosecution in 2007, to appear before it tomorrow in a special session. Macdonald has been criticised because he has subsequently agreed to do some work for News International.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 15:47 (six years ago) Permalink

it is seriously difficult to keep all this shit straight

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 July 2011 15:50 (six years ago) Permalink

Everyone is arresting everyone else before they resign during a committee appearance.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 15:51 (six years ago) Permalink

isn't it gonna be quicker to pull in everybody who hasn't been paid by News Corp?

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 July 2011 15:51 (six years ago) Permalink

The room would be empty.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 15:56 (six years ago) Permalink

Meanwhile, speaking of committees and things:

Paul Dacre tells draft defamation bill committee he's never encountered hacking or blagging by journalists

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:03 (six years ago) Permalink

or anything resembling "journalism", in his newsroom.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:04 (six years ago) Permalink

Related:

Dacre, when asked re hacking and blagging ever justified:"Goodness me, deep waters"

Who is this guy again? Besides being the Daily Mail doofus and all.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:04 (six years ago) Permalink

Uh

No.10 confirms it missed off PM media meetings list last wk a "social engagement" with RBrooks."It was administrative error"

https://twitter.com/#!/paulwaugh/status/92974742927196160

Samantha Mumbahton (seandalai), Monday, 18 July 2011 16:05 (six years ago) Permalink

Way too many of those admin errors IMO.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2011 16:07 (six years ago) Permalink

Betting odds do not mean "lol he might go"

It's basically the lowest price that can attract people to buy a ticket for lolreasons...

Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:08 (six years ago) Permalink

14.54 Boris Johnson appears to have lost his temper at a question from Jon Snow

Hold up, the Night's Watch is now involved?!?

online pinata store (Nicole), Monday, 18 July 2011 16:08 (six years ago) Permalink

so anticipating dacre's downfall - surely imminent, if he had nothing to hide surely he'd be GOING IIIIINNNNN right now

lex pretend, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:08 (six years ago) Permalink

Hold up, the Night's Watch is now involved?!?

DJP already got there. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:11 (six years ago) Permalink

LOOOOOOOOOOOOL, R4 PM just opened with this as the intro:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2011 16:14 (six years ago) Permalink

Oh dear, looks like Murdoch using his goons to send Cameron a 'don't fuck with me' message:

Sky's Adam Boulton says there was a social meeting between Ms Brooks, James Murdoch and the Prime Minister that was not originally revealed.

James Mitchell, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:18 (six years ago) Permalink

i need this to be the intro music to a news programme v soon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_-GiF77St0

lex pretend, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:21 (six years ago) Permalink

5.23pm: John Yates has just given a public statement about his resignation. Here are the key points.

• Yates said that he had acted "with complete integrity" and that his conscience was clear.

• He said that "ill-informed" and occasional "downright malicious gossip" was making it impossible for him to carry on doing his counter-terrorism job.

• He said that he looked forward to the inquiry showing that he behaved properly when he reviewed the phone hacking case in 2009.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:28 (six years ago) Permalink

• That would be £500 please

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 July 2011 16:33 (six years ago) Permalink

Mr Miliband continues on Mr Cameron: "He must take ultimate responsibility for the conduct of his Government. I'm not saying he should go, but he should come clean."
Think Ed's finally got his words right.

James Mitchell, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:33 (six years ago) Permalink

Way too many of those admin errors IMO.

it would be totally hypocritical of me not to give anyone a free pass for admin errors at all times :/

lex pretend, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:34 (six years ago) Permalink

Yes, but your admin errors really ARE admin errors.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2011 16:36 (six years ago) Permalink

John Yates has just given a public statement about his resignation

aka Yates' whines lodged

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 16:36 (six years ago) Permalink

The ExNOTWJourno2 Twitter feed is making something of this:

Boss of the parent group of UK mobile phone networks Orange and T-Mobile is standing down for "personal reasons"

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:44 (six years ago) Permalink

yah that is what my brother is working on, it's some wild wild stuff

caek, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:46 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm with T-mobile, do you think I could use this as grounds for ditching my contract with them.

The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Monday, 18 July 2011 16:49 (six years ago) Permalink

A new rush of things:

17.41 The IPCC says it is investigating four senior officers or former officers.

Quote We have today received referrals from the Metropolitan Police Authority about the conduct of four current or former senior Metropolitan Police officers. The matters referred involve:
• The conduct of the Met Commissioner in carrying overall responsibility for the investigation into phone hacking
• The conduct of Assistant Commissioner John Yates: in his review in July 2009 and overall role in relation to the phone hacking investigation; and in his alleged involvement in inappropriately securing employment for the daughter of a friend;
• The conduct of two former senior officers in their role in the phone hacking investigation.

17.33 Breaking: IPCC investigating claims John Yates inappropriately secured employment for Neil Wallis's daughter

The IPCC says it is investigating John Yates for his role in the phone-hacking investigation but also for securing inappropriate employment for the daughter of a friend. Our crime correspondent Mark Hughes says that that friend is understood to be Neil Wallis.

17.30 More info on the social engagement with Rebekah Brooks inadvertently left off the list released by Downing Street last week. Apparently it was Cameron's birthday party.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:51 (six years ago) Permalink

T-Mobile and Orange just merged about a year ago, so is it an Orange person or a T-Mobile person?

Vodafone are on the African jolly with Cameron BTW.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2011 16:51 (six years ago) Permalink

More info on the social engagement with Rebekah Brooks inadvertently left off the list released by Downing Street last week. Apparently it was Cameron's birthday party.

Holy shitbags, this is a gift that'll keep on giving.

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 16:52 (six years ago) Permalink

haha otm that's a narrative right there

caek, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:53 (six years ago) Permalink

And now this?

BREAKING Former and current DPPs (Ken Macdonald and Keir Starmer) to give evidence to MPs on home affairs select cttee tomororrow

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:54 (six years ago) Permalink

Sources close to the company said they expected Alexander to be followed out of the door by a "wave" of senior executives.

James Mitchell, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:54 (six years ago) Permalink

Though I gather this is the same Macdonald mentioned earlier.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:54 (six years ago) Permalink

Sky's Mark Yates says that the IPCC are not confirming that the daughter of Neil Wallis, the former NOTW deputy editor, was the person who gained employment thanks to John Yates.

James Mitchell, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:55 (six years ago) Permalink

"happy birthday dave!!!"

"a... shit sandwich! just what i always wanted!"

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 July 2011 16:57 (six years ago) Permalink

More info on the social engagement with Rebekah Brooks inadvertently left off the list released by Downing Street last week. Apparently it was Cameron's birthday party.

oh maaaaaaan, amazing

"admin error"!!! just HAPPENED to be dave's b'day!

lex pretend, Monday, 18 July 2011 17:00 (six years ago) Permalink

But, but, his birthday is in October?

carson dial, Monday, 18 July 2011 17:04 (six years ago) Permalink

Sean Hoare, the former News of the World showbiz reporter who was the first named journalist to allege Andy Coulson was aware of phone hacking by his staff, has been found dead, the Guardian has learned.

Hoare, who worked on the Sun and the News of the World with Coulson before being dismissed for drink and drugs problems, is said to have been found dead at his Watford home.

Hertfordshire police would not confirm his identity, but the force said in a statement: "At 10.40am today [Monday 18 July] police were called to Langley Road, Watford, following the concerns for welfare of a man who lives at an address on the street. Upon police and ambulance arrival at a property, the body of a man was found. The man was pronounced dead at the scene shortly after.

"The death is currently being treated as unexplained, but not thought to be suspicious. Police investigations into this incident are ongoing."

???

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 17:06 (six years ago) Permalink

oh christ...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/18/news-of-the-world-sean-hoare

News of the World phone hacking whistleblower found dead

Death of Sean Hoare – who was first named journalist to allege Andy Coulson knew of hacking – not being treated as suspicious

lex pretend, Monday, 18 July 2011 17:07 (six years ago) Permalink

shit got real-er

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 17:08 (six years ago) Permalink

And now this?

BREAKING Former and current DPPs (Ken Macdonald and Keir Starmer) to give evidence to MPs on home affairs select cttee tomororrow
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 11:54 (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

IIRC Ken Macdonald was an adulterer, what did NOTW have on him?

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 18 July 2011 17:11 (six years ago) Permalink

Speaking to a Guardian reporter last week, Hoare repeatedly expressed the hope that the hacking scandal would lead to journalism in general being cleaned up and said he had decided to blow the whistle on the activities of some of his former News of the World colleagues with that aim in mind.

He also said he has been injured at a party the previous weekend while taking down a marquee erected for a children's party. He said he had broken his nose and badly injured his foot when a relative accidentally struck him with a heavy pole from the marquee.

Hoare also emphasised that he was not making any money from telling his story. Hoare, who has been treated for drug and alcohol problems, reminisced about partying with former pop stars and said he missed the days when he was able to go out on the town.

dear lord there is a freight of insinuation in these three paragraphs.

c sharp major, Monday, 18 July 2011 17:12 (six years ago) Permalink

guys if somebody wanted Hoare out of the way this probly wasn't the best week?

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 July 2011 17:14 (six years ago) Permalink

what a weird coinkydink tho

so brycey (history mayne), Monday, 18 July 2011 17:16 (six years ago) Permalink

Not suggesting that - dude had some issues and 24/7 news cycle probably not adding much value to his mental health. As far as speaking out about Coulson, though, he was the canary in the mineshaft.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2011 17:17 (six years ago) Permalink

Must have been a hell of a pole to break a nose and injure a foot at the same time.

James Mitchell, Monday, 18 July 2011 17:17 (six years ago) Permalink

Hmmm...

ExNOTWjourno2 Marie X
RIP Sean.. Now i'm really going to go for the jugular.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 17:18 (six years ago) Permalink

And from our founder:

tomewing Tom Ewing
"The death is not being treated as suspicious, except by everyone reading about it."

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 17:19 (six years ago) Permalink

18.19 Sean Hoare, who has reportedly been found dead, made fresh allegations against the News of the World last week in the New York Times.

"A former show-business reporter for The News of the World, Sean Hoare, who was fired in 2005, said that when he worked there, pinging cost the paper nearly $500 on each occasion. He first found out how the practice worked, he said, when he was scrambling to find someone and was told that one of the news desk editors, Greg Miskiw, could help. Mr. Miskiw asked for the person’s cellphone number, and returned later with information showing the person’s precise location in Scotland, Mr. Hoare said. Mr. Miskiw, who faces questioning by police on a separate matter, did not return calls for comment."

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 17:23 (six years ago) Permalink

www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FZ2FA-epcE&feature=player_detailpage#t=70s

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 July 2011 18:12 (six years ago) Permalink

HackneyAbbott

IPCC investigating the Met Police top brass. I wouldn't worry too much, if I was Yates and co. IPCC a toothless tiger.
2 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone

lex pretend, Monday, 18 July 2011 18:15 (six years ago) Permalink

toothless tigers usually arent congenitally toothless tho

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 July 2011 18:16 (six years ago) Permalink

nick davies has a warm farewell piece for sean hoare up:

he had bought, sold and snorted cocaine with some of the most powerful names in tabloid journalism. One retains a senior position on the Daily Mirror. "I last saw him in Little Havana," he recalled, "at three in the morning, on his hands and knees. He had lost his cocaine wrap. I said to him, 'This is not really the behaviour we expect of a senior journalist from a great Labour paper.' He said, 'Have you got any fucking drugs?'"

joe, Monday, 18 July 2011 18:26 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b7DgOeMnW4

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 18:31 (six years ago) Permalink

guys if somebody wanted Hoare out of the way this probly wasn't the best week?

then again, if you wanted him out of the way and knew the police also had a vested interest in his removal, really the sooner the better - especially if you know the police will report it as 'not suspicious' no matter what

Michael B, Monday, 18 July 2011 18:47 (six years ago) Permalink

^^^also no idea how long he'd been there before they found him, yes?

Inquest, when?

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2011 18:49 (six years ago) Permalink

I notice that this thread has managed to spend even less time on the defense review than the mainstream media. Do people really have nothing to say? (I spent my afternoon with journos and people waiting to lose their jobs) It's another tory attack on Scotland, but this time it leaves British armed forces in an impossible position.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:27 (six years ago) Permalink

this is not the uk politics thread!

max, Monday, 18 July 2011 19:29 (six years ago) Permalink

Think you're looking for the other thread dowd

xp

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:30 (six years ago) Permalink

I thought this was the new UK pol thread and the other was locked! sorry about that - I guess the silence on the other confused me.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:32 (six years ago) Permalink

The previous DEM-CON threas was locked, that one is the new one.

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:34 (six years ago) Permalink

Ah, I must have got lost between the two.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:35 (six years ago) Permalink

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/18/mystery-bag-bin-rebekah-brooks

would be some real poetic justice in people rooting through a tabloid editor's bins preceding their downfall

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:56 (six years ago) Permalink

it does sorta sound like the least believable story as yet presented in this saga

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:58 (six years ago) Permalink

http://www.foxnewsuk.com/

ha ha ha ha jack my swag (boxedjoy), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:02 (six years ago) Permalink

blowing whistles in heaven now

am0n, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:04 (six years ago) Permalink

NYTimes goes in. HUGE amount of allegations, go nuts. Plus plenty of roffles:

Mr. Dacre, The Daily Mail editor, told his senior managers that he had received several reports from businesspeople, soccer stars and public relations agencies that the News International executives Will Lewis and Simon Greenberg had encouraged them to investigate whether their phones had been hacked by Daily Mail newspapers . “They thought it was unfair that all the focus was on The News of the World,” said one News International official with knowledge of the effort. The two men have told colleagues they did not make such calls, but two company officials disputed that.

Mr. Dacre confronted Ms. Brooks over breakfast at the plush Brown’s hotel. “You are trying to tear down the entire industry,” Mr. Dacre told her, according to an account he relayed to his management team.

Ms. Brooks, whose tenacity is legendary, was not deterred. At a dinner party, Lady Claudia Rothermere, the wife of the billionaire owner of The Daily Mail, overheard Ms. Brooks saying that The Mail was just as culpable as The News of the World. “We didn’t break the law,” Lady Rothermere said, according to two sources with knowledge of the exchange. Ms. Brooks asked who Lady Rothermere thought she was, “Mother Teresa?”

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:04 (six years ago) Permalink

re: dacre, thought this was interesting:

Asked whether unlawful newsgathering techniques could ever be justified, he said: "Goodness me, deep waters. I have considerable sympathy that if there's a great public interest then those methods can be justified."

However, he added later: "I don't think you should ever use hacking or blagging as a [public interest] defence because they're criminal offences."

like how much room is he leaving here for diff readings of 'if there's a great public interest' - like there is an obvious defence when it's regarding genuine journalistic enquiry, but given that the daily mail peddles a lot of gutter bullshit about cellulite and celebrity affairs that, y'know, there's a great public interest in, it's p interesting.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:08 (six years ago) Permalink

Mr. Murdoch was attending a conference in Sun Valley, Idaho, in early July when it became clear that the latest eruption of the hacking scandal was not, as he first thought, a passing problem. According to a person briefed on the conversation, he proposed to one senior executive that he “fly commercial to London,” so he might be seen as man of the people. He was told that would hardly do the trick, and he arrived on a Gulfstream G550 private jet.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:08 (six years ago) Permalink

"Get me a ticket on Freddie Laker's airline."

Servants of the SBankh (snoball), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:11 (six years ago) Permalink

haha

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:12 (six years ago) Permalink

not really keeping up w/ this thread, but the wsj editorial about this is hilariously small-minded and cunty

goole, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:17 (six years ago) Permalink

The Bancrofts were admirable owners in many ways, but at the end of their ownership their appetite for dividends meant that little cash remained to invest in journalism. We shudder to think what the Journal would look like today without the sale to News Corp.

read: "our only loyalty is to power, you can basically ignore what we say"

goole, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:18 (six years ago) Permalink

Really don't think Lady Rothmere is as bad as Mother Teresa, to be fair.

henri grenouille (Frogman Henry), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:22 (six years ago) Permalink

"The British politicians now bemoaning media influence over politics are also the same statesmen who have long coveted media support."

logic.ppt

goole, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:22 (six years ago) Permalink

And how the WSJ will trumpet this:

9.26pm: Standard and Poor's have put News Corp on negative credit watch, according to the AFP news agency.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:31 (six years ago) Permalink

What time does it kick off tomorrow?

� (a hoy hoy), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:32 (six years ago) Permalink

Hmm.

10.00pm: Three Police officers carrying cameras and wearing white forensic suits arrived a short time ago at Sean Hoare's flat in Watford.
Fifteen minutes earlier, at about 9.15pm, a police van marked "Scientific Services Unit" pulled up at the address, a block of flats that the journalist moved into in November 2009.
The Press Association reports that two officers emerged carrying evidence bags, clipboards, torches and laptop-style bags and entered the building.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 21:09 (six years ago) Permalink

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaow

a variable (sic) "League of Nations" (DJP), Monday, 18 July 2011 21:09 (six years ago) Permalink

Nothing suspicious here obviously.

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 21:13 (six years ago) Permalink

Fuck 'UK end of season finale', it's getting more like '24' end of season finale.

James Mitchell, Monday, 18 July 2011 21:16 (six years ago) Permalink

One of the more ridiculous later seasons, too.

James Mitchell, Monday, 18 July 2011 21:16 (six years ago) Permalink

Britain, you really have the best scandals ever.

StanM, Monday, 18 July 2011 21:19 (six years ago) Permalink

My mom has not fallen for the dismissal of the story a la Fox and is actually going to watch the Parliamentary hearing, even if she has to go to C-SPAN. I really hope this is her big Helen Keller moment with this shit. OTOH: "Who's the redhead? Is sex involved?"

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2011 21:22 (six years ago) Permalink

the hackers hacked:

http://whois.domaintools.com/new-times.co.uk

http://www.new-times.co.uk/sun/

joe, Monday, 18 July 2011 21:23 (six years ago) Permalink

now thesun.co.uk is redirecting to the hacked page.

joe, Monday, 18 July 2011 21:36 (six years ago) Permalink

omg @ that hack

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 21:40 (six years ago) Permalink

wow!

Samantha Mumbahton (seandalai), Monday, 18 July 2011 21:44 (six years ago) Permalink

I didn't know he had a famous topiary garden!

StanM, Monday, 18 July 2011 21:45 (six years ago) Permalink

this is awesome!

owenf, Monday, 18 July 2011 21:52 (six years ago) Permalink

I know newscorp people on fb who were all like 'uuuh not dead, hacker fail' and the links they posted are redirecting to the hack.

owenf, Monday, 18 July 2011 21:54 (six years ago) Permalink

fucking hell ed miliband is a robot

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Monday, 18 July 2011 21:54 (six years ago) Permalink

Looks like the AnonymouSabu twitter account is going even further (no idea if what they are posting is actually real)

jellybean (back again) (Jill), Monday, 18 July 2011 21:59 (six years ago) Permalink

What do those numbers do though?

a more annuated ilx user (Ned Trifle II), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:04 (six years ago) Permalink

This is absolutely nuts in a predictable "what zeitgeisty infosec trope hasn't turned up yet?" way.

Samantha Mumbahton (seandalai), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:04 (six years ago) Permalink

xpost
Think it's a cryptographic key to store the password?

jellybean (back again) (Jill), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:06 (six years ago) Permalink

Yes... The password hashes and salts are needed to decrypt the passwords.. Using these details the passwords could be cracked in seconds...

Night Nurse with Wound (Jack Battery-Pack), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:10 (six years ago) Permalink

The Sun homepage thesun.co.uk now redirects to the LulzSec twitter page

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:19 (six years ago) Permalink

this is all just spiffy

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:20 (six years ago) Permalink

End of season now feels too small, somehow...

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 22:27 (six years ago) Permalink

SABU

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:34 (six years ago) Permalink

i seriously would never have imagined that the parly grilling tomorrow would end up feeling like a sideshow

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:35 (six years ago) Permalink

This is crazy. I've got to interview someone discussed on this thread tomorrow - musician - first thing and I know we are going to spend half of it not talking about anything but this.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:38 (six years ago) Permalink

Waking up is brilliant these days. I need to take a day off just to work through the past few hours.

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:38 (six years ago) Permalink

11.37pm: A News International spokeswoman has confirmed to the Press Association that the company was "aware" of what was happening, but made no further comment.

What else could be said, anyway? "Uh, yeah, we're fucked."

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 22:38 (six years ago) Permalink

xp wooooow

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:38 (six years ago) Permalink

This is crazy. I've got to interview someone discussed on this thread tomorrow - musician

Say hi to Mr. Michael for us!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 22:39 (six years ago) Permalink

Via twitter:

PaulLewis

I've been at Sean Hoare's house. Police/ambulance there 11am-3pm. Then nothing. Story breaks. Forensics arrive 9pm.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 22:39 (six years ago) Permalink

Hahaha Ned, unlike GM, this interviewee has never had a homosexual experience.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:42 (six years ago) Permalink

Say hi to William Hague for us!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 22:43 (six years ago) Permalink

looool

i mean just in the last 24 hours there's been

- the supposed suicide of a key whistleblower
- a mysterious bag with computer and files in it found near rebekah brooks' house
- hackers who claim to have snaffled all NOTW and the Sun's emails

in the 24 hrs before that there was rebekah brooks' arrest and the chief of scotland yard's resignation. this is starting to make "house of cards" look unimaginative

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:46 (six years ago) Permalink

BTW if this were happening to any other news org the Post would have NEWS CORPSE for tomorrow's HL.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:47 (six years ago) Permalink

i will now admit that this may actually be somewhat of a big deal

who shivs a git (darraghmac), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:48 (six years ago) Permalink

i mean just in the last 24 hours there's been

- the supposed suicide of a key whistleblower
- a mysterious bag with computer and files in it found near rebekah brooks' house
- hackers who claim to have snaffled all NOTW and the Sun's emails

in the 24 hrs before that there was rebekah brooks' arrest and the chief of scotland yard's resignation. this is starting to make "house of cards" look unimaginative

― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 08:46 (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol and you left off John Yates

invite ← VERB (Schlafsack), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:55 (six years ago) Permalink

xp i may concur.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 18 July 2011 22:55 (six years ago) Permalink

ned t you are making me feel bad with that display name

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 July 2011 23:02 (six years ago) Permalink

- the supposed suicide of a key whistleblower

wait who has suggested it was suicide?

joe, Monday, 18 July 2011 23:04 (six years ago) Permalink

Widely reported as "not suspicious" until just recently.

invite ← VERB (Schlafsack), Monday, 18 July 2011 23:05 (six years ago) Permalink

just a whistleblower killing self after scandal breaks nbd

didn't even have to use my akai (Hurting 2), Monday, 18 July 2011 23:07 (six years ago) Permalink

suicide or murder aren't the only options! he had a long history of heavy drinking and drug use and nick davies recounted this:

In the end, his body would not take it any more. He said he started to have fits, that his liver was in such a terrible state that a doctor told him he must be dead.

quite prepared to believe he was murdered, especially as the news of the world private detective jonathan rees, who was accused of killing a guy with an axe, is still at large, but there are reasons to believe this guy was ready to go at any time.

joe, Monday, 18 July 2011 23:14 (six years ago) Permalink

Course if it turns out he was slowly poisoned like the ex-KGB dude...

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 23:16 (six years ago) Permalink

row row fight the power

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 18 July 2011 23:17 (six years ago) Permalink

Lulzsec scares me.

I met Sean Hoare a couple of times at music dos in the late 90s. Nice guy, usually pissed (as in drunk, not angry).

Strictly vote-splitting (DL), Monday, 18 July 2011 23:20 (six years ago) Permalink

NI and Times sites also down/hacked. perhaps include the Mail's site out of fairness?

blueski, Monday, 18 July 2011 23:20 (six years ago) Permalink

quite prepared to believe he was murdered, especially as the news of the world private detective jonathan rees, who was accused of killing a guy with an axe, is still at large, but there are reasons to believe this guy was ready to go at any time.

― joe, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 09:14 (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Definitely an easy target, then. The timing cannot be ignored.

invite ← VERB (Schlafsack), Monday, 18 July 2011 23:24 (six years ago) Permalink

you're not making any sense. the fact that he was very possibly ill and likely to die of natural causes means... that it's easier to murder him? but you were implying it was a presumed suicide earlier. our putative murderer can't have made it look like suicide and natural causes all at once.

there's enough conspiracy here already without jumping to conclusions and making your own.

joe, Monday, 18 July 2011 23:30 (six years ago) Permalink

Conspiracy theorists embarrassing themselves on this one IMO. As with David Kelly, (a) it's too late - the damage is done and (b) you don't go knocking people off in the full glare of the media spotlight.

Strictly vote-splitting (DL), Monday, 18 July 2011 23:34 (six years ago) Permalink

Tell that to Bin Laden / Saddam Hussein

Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2011 23:39 (six years ago) Permalink

you're not making any sense. the fact that he was very possibly ill and likely to die of natural causes means... that it's easier to murder him?

It's an obvious alibi.

but you were implying it was a presumed suicide earlier. our putative murderer can't have made it look like suicide and natural causes all at once.

I said the press reported suicide.

there's enough conspiracy here already without jumping to conclusions and making your own.

How about not jamming words into my mouth.

invite ← VERB (Schlafsack), Monday, 18 July 2011 23:40 (six years ago) Permalink

So if the lulzsec crew makes available the full data grab to UK/US cops, can any of that be used legally, if not as admissible evidence, then something?

Also, iPhones now autocomplete for 'lulzsec'. FYI.

Crazed Mister Handy (kingfish), Monday, 18 July 2011 23:41 (six years ago) Permalink

xp where did the press report a suicide, is what i originally asked? it wasn't in any of the reports i read (guardian, mostly).

joe, Monday, 18 July 2011 23:41 (six years ago) Permalink

Widely reported as "not suspicious" until just recently.

― invite ← VERB (Schlafsack), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 09:05 (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

invite ← VERB (Schlafsack), Monday, 18 July 2011 23:42 (six years ago) Permalink

Okay, I just realised you probably didn't know that "not suspicious" is press code for suicide.

invite ← VERB (Schlafsack), Monday, 18 July 2011 23:44 (six years ago) Permalink

it wouldn't also be used if it just seemed like someone had died of natural causes or in circumstances in which it didn't ... seem ... suspicious?

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Monday, 18 July 2011 23:44 (six years ago) Permalink

xp i work as a news reporter, and i know that if you assume a "not suspicious" death is a suicide, you sometimes get made to look like a fool.

joe, Monday, 18 July 2011 23:46 (six years ago) Permalink

It is more often than not code for suicide, though. If someone died of natural causes they say that.

stet, Monday, 18 July 2011 23:48 (six years ago) Permalink

CNBC saying Murdoch Jr considering position.

stet, Monday, 18 July 2011 23:52 (six years ago) Permalink

conclusion: fuuuuuuuuuuuuucked

blueski, Monday, 18 July 2011 23:54 (six years ago) Permalink

We covered the suicide/no-suspicious-circumstances thing in detail at uni in the '90s. Right now all I can find is mentions on various blogs and page 2 of this (opens a pdf).

xxp AWESOME

invite ← VERB (Schlafsack), Monday, 18 July 2011 23:54 (six years ago) Permalink

who is Louise Boat?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG7IURgryjA

zappi, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:00 (six years ago) Permalink

Think CNBC meant Rupert going too and I picked it up wrong.

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:01 (six years ago) Permalink

joe i'm still trying to wrap my head around the whole "not suspicious" convention in the uk. you're saying it could mean an OD?

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:01 (six years ago) Permalink

In a number of paper style books I've seen the advice for reporting suicides is to report them as deaths not in suspicious circumstances, because of the risk of copycats. Accidental ODs can be and are reported as such

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:03 (six years ago) Permalink

From that pdf link I posted (Aus Parliament House):

At the time of the establishment of the Press Council in 1976, the Australian press tended not
to report suicide, whether the story related to a particular self-harm incident or to a coronial
inquiry into such an incident. In order to avoid references to suicide, the press employed in
such reports some circumlocutions that persist to this day, for example, "the police say that
there were no suspicious circumstances".

As stet said it's by no means nomenclature that applies only to suicides but it's reasonable to interpret it that way unless explicitly informed otherwise.

invite ← VERB (Schlafsack), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:07 (six years ago) Permalink

so.... what are the other things it can mean?

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:09 (six years ago) Permalink

joe i'm still trying to wrap my head around the whole "not suspicious" convention in the uk. you're saying it could mean an OD?

― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 01:01 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

i don't think it's necessarily a convention in this case, they've probably not carried out a postmortem yet so all they know is that there's a sudden death with no obvious external cause. there are coded euphemisms for violent deaths, when "no suspicious circumstances" does mean that the only logical conclusion is suicide. but for non-violent deaths then "not suspicious" can just mean a guy died, and that's it - but when someone dies randomly in watford and neighbours call the police after they've not been seen for a few days, it's not usually national news.

joe, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:11 (six years ago) Permalink

Given most stories still say unexplained-but-not-thought-suspicious, I think it currently means anything from natural causes to OD to suicide, but no obvious foul play.
xp

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:13 (six years ago) Permalink

accidental death would be another 'not suspicious' one

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:15 (six years ago) Permalink

This isn't really a universal code, no, but once the death is explained, most of these other explanations would be reported as such. The report would just say "believed to have died of an accidental drug overdose" or "accidental death". When you have an explained death that's reported as nothing other than "the circumstances are not believed to be suspicious" that's usually a p. clear code for suicide.

Because this is so high-profile, though, they won't be circumspect about it -- people will report if it's thought to be suicide (cf David Kelly) rather than dancing around it. But it sounds like the cause of death isn't clear, so it's going to take autopsy etc before that happens.

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:23 (six years ago) Permalink

I feel this story would be complete if they could get that nice Freddie Patel to do the post mortem.

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:25 (six years ago) Permalink

lol

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:28 (six years ago) Permalink

Because this is so high-profile, though, they won't be circumspect about it -- people will report if it's thought to be suicide (cf David Kelly) rather than dancing around it.

Yeah, if a suicide is that high-profile somebody will get to the big headline first. I'm now so accustomed to seeing local reports of e.g. a road death attributed to 'no suspicious circumstances' that I rarely think twice about it.

invite ← VERB (Schlafsack), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:28 (six years ago) Permalink

it's such a cocktease of a phrase

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:34 (six years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/IPLPc.jpg

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:39 (six years ago) Permalink

cameron-and-a-hoodie.jpg

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 01:02 (six years ago) Permalink

from toynbee today, btw:

the Mail on Sunday reported that Cameron intended to hire the BBC's Guto Harri as his press secretary. So close, apparently, was the appointment that the Harri family visited the Camerons one weekend in 2007 at Chipping Norton to discuss it, but the job went to Andy Coulson after Rebekah Brooks "is said to have told Mr Cameron that the post should go to Mr Coulson to strengthen links between the Tories and News International". Is this true? Reviewing the papers on the Andrew Marr programme on Sunday, I pointed out this story and said Harri was well-known in the BBC as a straight-as-a-die, honest man. I was pleased to get a text from Harri just after the show saying "Thanks". Does that mean it is true? I called Harri, who now works for Boris Johnson, to check. Yes, he said he'd heard tell that his name was not acceptable to News International. "I heard it as gossip on the grapevine – but I have no idea whether or not it's true. Yes, I did talk to David Cameron about taking the job – but whilst I lingered they'd clearly approached Andy Coulson." He had a good idea who the source from the Sun was for the story. How Cameron must wish he had given Harri the job. The idea that News International planted their man in the heart of Downing Street is truly shocking.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 01:09 (six years ago) Permalink

lol yesterday's guardian liveblog

8.29am: "The number of dead bodies on the stage is beginning to resemble the final scene of a Shakespearian tragedy" is how the Guardian puts it today.

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 01:23 (six years ago) Permalink

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-07-19/news-corp-share-slump-murdoch/2799888

News Corp total value down an estimated 20%/US$9b since all this started. DELICIOUS.

invite ← VERB (Schlafsack), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 01:27 (six years ago) Permalink

It is going to be interesting after all the fallout to see how (if?) this changes the tone of bias in news reportage in the media in general.

Bloompsday (Trayce), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 01:30 (six years ago) Permalink

i know lol no-one buys papers but are there any figures re: how the sun/times has done this month?

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 01:35 (six years ago) Permalink

@DavidPrescott What a truly bizarre coincidence. The bodies of Sean Hoare and David Kelly were both discovered on July 18.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 01:38 (six years ago) Permalink

Nice little overview of the board via Sorkin:

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/07/18/murdochs-board-stays-silent-as-scandal-widens/

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 01:56 (six years ago) Permalink

timebomb about to go off y/n

invite ← VERB (Schlafsack), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 01:59 (six years ago) Permalink

All the hacked sites seem to be completely down now--anyone got a screencap or something showing what the hackers did?

not bulimic, just a cat (James Morrison), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 02:10 (six years ago) Permalink

Fantastic! Thanks

not bulimic, just a cat (James Morrison), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 02:28 (six years ago) Permalink

http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonathan-chait/92159/news-corp-vs-its-critics

/meta
/uscentric

we covered the redolently desperate WSJ editorial itt already, but it was even worse that i thought

goole, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 03:43 (six years ago) Permalink

News Corp papers worldwide seem to be covering this thing in two ways:

1. by focusing entirely on the phone hacking aspect (as if to say "right well we've done our job as journalists, let's move on")
2. by cranking up the noise about anything at all that serves as an effective distraction

I'm not allowing myself to ~really~ believe it just yet, but this is starting to feel like the death of News Corp as a political force. Those WSJ pieces are the kicking and screaming laid bare.

invite ← VERB (Schlafsack), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 03:51 (six years ago) Permalink

papers media outlets

invite ← VERB (Schlafsack), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 03:51 (six years ago) Permalink

Remember how last week there was the fuss over Cameron hosting The Sun's Police Bravery Awards at Downing Street? The next night he hosted a Downing Street reception "to commemorate the top 100 companies listed in The Sunday Times Profit Track 100 2011 awards".

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 07:18 (six years ago) Permalink

9.18am: Chris Bryant, the Labour MP who has been campaigning on phone hacking for ages, has just dropped an intriguing hint about "more to come" in an interview on BBC News.

The theatre of [today's appearance] is irrelevant. In the end we've got to get to the bottom of what is a very murky pool. And I tell you Rebekah Brooks was right. We're only half way into that pool at the moment. There's stuff about Surrey police as well and other things that are still to come out.

The Millie Dowler investigation was handled by Surrey police. So was Abigail Witchalls iirc.

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 09:09 (six years ago) Permalink

it's kind of amazing to me that less has been made of hacking of the soham victims' families

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 09:13 (six years ago) Permalink

Cameron in full photo-bombing mode

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 09:32 (six years ago) Permalink

it's kind of amazing to me that less has been made of hacking of the soham victims' families

― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, July 19, 2011 10:13 AM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark

it's gone so fast that im not sure the full extent of the hacking is common knowledge. was sarah payne's family hacked? remember this as a rumour. but the milly dowler story has stood for all the rest.

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 09:35 (six years ago) Permalink

I think that's Louise Boat stood behind him btw xp

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 09:35 (six years ago) Permalink

http://www.isdavidcameronstillprimeminister.com/

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 09:59 (six years ago) Permalink

LOLz...

"Bookmakers William Hill are offering odds of 16/1 about "under pressure" PM David Cameron being out of office by the weekend."

Bigger LOLz...

"London Mayor Boris Johnson, at 4/1, is favourite to replace him as permanent leader of the Conservative Party"

What was Darren Clarke again? 150-1?

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:04 (six years ago) Permalink

What's the best (online) way to watch the questioning this afternoon?

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:05 (six years ago) Permalink

The evil BBC are the only people allowed to broadcast Parliament I think?

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:06 (six years ago) Permalink

Melanie Phillips won't be happy about this...

Neil S, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:09 (six years ago) Permalink

Oh, really? xps Thanks

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:10 (six years ago) Permalink

CNN.com will stream the entire testimony live on its website as well as through a number of mobile apps.
C-SPAN will stream the testimony live as well on C-SPAN3.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:11 (six years ago) Permalink

Thanks James!

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:13 (six years ago) Permalink

Oh, really?

Actually, now I come to think of it, no!

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:13 (six years ago) Permalink

:-)

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:14 (six years ago) Permalink

has the headline "Hacky Sack" been used yet?

kip winger; radio ventriloquist (jel --), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:35 (six years ago) Permalink

^ nice

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:41 (six years ago) Permalink

Can I listen to it? Is it on R4 or 5live or something?

hand me the banana of shame (NotEnough), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:47 (six years ago) Permalink

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/5live

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:52 (six years ago) Permalink

Will anywhere be helpfully liveblogging the thing for those of us unfortunate enough not to be allowed speakers/headphones at work?

(updates and comments on this thread will suffice, I guess, probably better than untrustworthy media outlets anyway)

ailsa, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:55 (six years ago) Permalink

the guardian is still the go-to thing for this i think
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/blog/2011/jul/19/phone-hacking-rupert-murdoch-rebekah-brooks-mps

w/an eye on twitter which is slightly quicker for peripherally related stuff

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:57 (six years ago) Permalink

For a politician to call for political control of the press is pretty sinister. Having spent the last decade and a half cosying up to the Murdoch press, Labour are now trying to turn this into a political vendetta which threatens to damage our democracy. Ed Miliband needs to distance himself from his mentor immediately.
http://conservativehome.blogs.com/leftwatch/2011/07/in-kinnocks-ideal-world-thered-be-no-mail-sun-or-telegraph-just-a-government-regulated-national-info.html

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:57 (six years ago) Permalink

what a disaster for neil kinnock

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:58 (six years ago) Permalink

Can why the Tories are running with this angle, after all it worked in 1983.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:59 (six years ago) Permalink

between that & vetting a proposed labour addition to the committee last night, the tories recalcitrance is nagl; just further compounds the image of them as resistant to any change, & mired in it all

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:59 (six years ago) Permalink

Like anyone has listened to anything Neil Kinnock has had to say since "WELL, AWWLLLLLLLLLLRIIIIIIIIGGHHHHHT!"

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:01 (six years ago) Permalink

lol

will all this be a huge anti-climax, y/n, paying special attention to how disappointing this kind of thing usually is. i guess it's interesting to see how brooks plays it under the spotlight and all.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:03 (six years ago) Permalink

is there any more news on the anonymous/lulzsec/antisec hack? The redirect was fun and all, but are they really now sitting on a huge pile of NI emails?

you don't exist in the database (woof), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:07 (six years ago) Permalink

Anti-climax: information and reveal-wise I'd say yes. But they are put on the spot. Hope the MPs questions won't be too cringe-worthy or facepalm.gif

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:07 (six years ago) Permalink

's a pity Chris Bryant's not on this committee

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:10 (six years ago) Permalink

ya it will be fun to see them shifting around in their seats like the grim reptilians they surely are

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:10 (six years ago) Permalink

You're referring to the as-yet-unexamined David Icke theory about Hackgate, I take it?

Neil S, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:11 (six years ago) Permalink

is anyone running a book on how often they'll say I'M NOT AT LIBERTY TO DISCUSS THAT

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:12 (six years ago) Permalink

Face? Bovvered? Catherine Tate shoo-in for Rebekah role in any upcoming drama?

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:13 (six years ago) Permalink

Does anybody else think she's been pulling "Nicole Kidman" faces in all the photos recently, trying to affect the selection process for "someone to play me in the eventual movie"

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:15 (six years ago) Permalink

^ ha, yes. But it's still a gimme for Tate (if Mick Hucknall decides he doesn't want a career in acting).

Cheers for Grauniad suggestion, will prob do that along with Twitter and this thread.

ailsa, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:20 (six years ago) Permalink

I am not expecting much new information to emerge from the hearings today. However from the imaginary film version perspective, forcing Rupert Murdoch to answer questions on the affair in a public forum must surely count as a dramatic highlight.

Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:24 (six years ago) Permalink

I am pretty ignorant re the MPs on the committee - given that they are politicians I presume that a fair amount of grandstanding / showboating is likely?

Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:26 (six years ago) Permalink

People have started saying WRONG a lot, I've noticed.

"We now recognise this was WRONG."

Such a handy word. It sounds forceful and conclusive, and yet it's such a fudge at heart. What KIND of wrong?

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:27 (six years ago) Permalink

Notice how Stephenson is rubbing his watch with his right index-finger almost all the time

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:27 (six years ago) Permalink

Don't think the masons can help him now

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:28 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEszTzdUMcY

ledge, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:29 (six years ago) Permalink

Notice how Stephenson is rubbing his watch with his right index-finger almost all the time

― Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:27 (12 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I guess Al Calavicci isn't showing up just yet.

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:30 (six years ago) Permalink

nicola blackwood POW

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:33 (six years ago) Permalink

(Side question: What the fuck is Julian Assange doing playing rhythm guitar for Cher in that video?)

Karen D. Tregaskin, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:33 (six years ago) Permalink

Per the NYTimes piece on News Corp's - News Corpse? Noose Corpse? - this will end with Murdoch literally buying Parliament.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:35 (six years ago) Permalink

i am kind of bored now, there's only so long a man finding new ways of saying DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING NO REASON FOR ME TO KNOW ANYTHING can be entertaining

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:38 (six years ago) Permalink

Phone hacking was not a priority for the Met, admits Sir Paul, unlike the "night stalker" rapist case, the murder of Stephen Lawrence...

Did a really good job on those two cases guys *thumbs up*

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:39 (six years ago) Permalink

And know he's quite obviously beating around the bush.

THERE'S A REASON I HAD DINNER WITH NOTW A MILLION TIMES.. BUT I AGREE THIS SHOULD BE DONE DIFFERENTLY. The question was, WHY did you dine with them so often.

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:43 (six years ago) Permalink

He was hungry.

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:45 (six years ago) Permalink

lol at this:

@BBCMichaelCrick
Michael Crick
Rumour among Cons MPs that Coulson kept diary since joining Cam. Sensational if so. Even Coulson memoirs 2014 cld wreck Cons election hopes

Neil S, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:46 (six years ago) Permalink

£1,000 a day and wallis was the cheapest option available?!

*changes career*

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:55 (six years ago) Permalink

My workmates would give no fuck about this shit at all but I'm still tempted to use it as an excuse to be late tomorrow.

Bloompsday (Trayce), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:57 (six years ago) Permalink

Woke up to this on the radio. How come everyone in the room keeps laughing?

emil.y, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:58 (six years ago) Permalink

Depressing lunchroom convo today: workmate peruses paper, says "oh, [AFL footy player] is resigning". I'm like "uh whatever... how about this Murdoch scandal?" and he looked at me like I grew 2 heads :(

Bloompsday (Trayce), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 12:00 (six years ago) Permalink

I got that too Trayce, from people who read murdoch tabloids

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 12:01 (six years ago) Permalink

We only have the Age at work in the lunch room, there was no excuse! :(

Bloompsday (Trayce), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 12:01 (six years ago) Permalink

But, even my own bf had no idea about all this shenanigans, but he is in the middle of a masters thesis so I'll give him a pass.

Bloompsday (Trayce), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 12:02 (six years ago) Permalink

A key phone-hacking suspect worked for senior detectives while he was chief crime reporter of the News of the World, the Standard reveals today.

The activities of Neville Thurlbeck, which date back to 1995, trigger new fears of collusion between the Met and the press.

Thurlbeck, who was arrested on suspicion of illegally accessing voicemail messages in April, has admitted working as an official police source under the codename "George".

He gave a "substantial volume of information that was extremely useful" to Scotland Yard and the security services.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23971221-hacking-suspect-worked-as-police-informer.do

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 12:17 (six years ago) Permalink

This is all turning out like a season 3 Bab 5 episode mixed with Jennifer Government :/

Bloompsday (Trayce), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 12:20 (six years ago) Permalink

Could be worse, my boss defended Murdoch on Monday. Because he didn't know anything was happening, y'know.

Scritti Eros Poli (King Boy Pato), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 12:23 (six years ago) Permalink

KathViner

Stephenson: 10 out of 45 press officers at the Met have worked for NI! #hackgate
3 minutes ago via web

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 12:29 (six years ago) Permalink

everyone has just says 'ask yates' so far

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 12:37 (six years ago) Permalink

Stephenson: 10 out of 45 press officers at the Met have worked for NI! #hackgate
3 minutes ago via web

it sounds like a technicality but i was surprised that this question was phrased based on current data - eg, how many ex-NI staff are there now, rather than over the past decade, throughout key periods, etc, how many ex-NI staff have there been on hand

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 12:44 (six years ago) Permalink

Finally!

I thought it'd be out last week as a special. Too much happening I guess.

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 12:49 (six years ago) Permalink

vaz's attack dog style is getting plaudits but i'm also taken by nicola blackwood's dry-as-a-bone supercilious approach. speaking very slowly as though to a slightly stupid six-year-old.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 12:49 (six years ago) Permalink

Yates up next.

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 12:59 (six years ago) Permalink

boggling at how fedorcio attained such a senior position in any organisation, that was embarrassing

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 12:59 (six years ago) Permalink

#scintillagate

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:04 (six years ago) Permalink

Alistair Campbell on Daily Politics right now...

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:08 (six years ago) Permalink

chief of staff again!

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:10 (six years ago) Permalink

HE IS THE MOLE

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:10 (six years ago) Permalink

Media committee's John Whittingdale is Facebook friends with Rebekah Brooks

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/phone-hacking/8644425/Phone-hacking-Media-committees-John-Whittingdale-is-Facebook-friends-with-Rebekah-Brooks.html

John Whittingdale MP is also friends with Les Hinton, a long time Murdoch ally who quit last week.

Mr Whittingdale, the Tory chairman of the Commons’ Culture, Media and Sport committee, is the only MP among 93 “friends” of Mr Hinton on the social networking website.

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:10 (six years ago) Permalink

the nuances of what a scoping is

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:11 (six years ago) Permalink

tom watson was repping for this guy, & a previous step he took in extending the enquiry, but yeah it's a significant enough conflict that you wouldn't think he'd be there

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:11 (six years ago) Permalink

I want to compile a list of all the funny linguistic habits these guys have, it’s so peculiar hearing them speak. I liked the guy who said, 'i’d say that that’s slightly over-egging the pudding ... to put it mildly!

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:13 (six years ago) Permalink

senior police officers have a peculiarly clunky officious cant

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:14 (six years ago) Permalink

are you writing cockney phonetically there

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:14 (six years ago) Permalink

peculiarly clunky officious cant

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:15 (six years ago) Permalink

haw

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:16 (six years ago) Permalink

lol his 'no....no..' just now was quite reminiscent of hugh abbott's select committee appearance

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:19 (six years ago) Permalink

no hand over mouth tho

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:19 (six years ago) Permalink

you interrupted my flow

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:19 (six years ago) Permalink

peculiarly clunky officious cant

Sounds like Andy Hayman, "Gawblimey, on my muvva's eyes, I never took a bung in me life, straight up!"

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:20 (six years ago) Permalink

quit it while i spit it blackwood

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:20 (six years ago) Permalink

breakin ma flow blud

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:20 (six years ago) Permalink

seriously what has ed llewelyn been doing is he just on ilx all day at work while critical issues pile up on his desk

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:21 (six years ago) Permalink

Thought they'd actually have to go into the House of Commons.

kip winger; radio ventriloquist (jel --), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:21 (six years ago) Permalink

"Biographer Michael Wolff is suggesting Rupert Murdoch could resign before the culture committee."

Is that guy on crack?

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:23 (six years ago) Permalink

remember that old rumour about how arthur lee blew his brains out onstage at the end of signed d.c.? michael wolff is talking about it re: murdoch's culture committee appearance

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:24 (six years ago) Permalink

BBC live feed a shambles - anybody have a better one?

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:25 (six years ago) Permalink

remember that old rumour about how arthur lee blew his brains out onstage at the end of signed d.c.?

No!

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:25 (six years ago) Permalink

here's one - http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN2/

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:28 (six years ago) Permalink

and the feed direct from the government -

http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Player.aspx?meetingId=8910

currently playing test tones

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:29 (six years ago) Permalink

Is the new Eye actually out? My local South London places have only got the last one so far. Was already stoked enough for the schadenfreude before I saw that cover.

MPx4A, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:29 (six years ago) Permalink

blew his brains out onstage at the end of signed d.c.?

Hoping that'll be Cameron's resignation speech tbh

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:30 (six years ago) Permalink

ha

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:31 (six years ago) Permalink

"No
One
Cares
(bang!)
for me...."

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:31 (six years ago) Permalink

remember that old rumour about how arthur lee blew his brains out onstage at the end of signed d.c.?

No!

mm, i wonder if i can find it; it sorta got rolled up amongst all the donut-store-robbery bullshit that dogged them for awhile, and circulated, apparently, while he was out of sight in the eighties i guess - that him & his band were playing and he killed himself.

i can't really find anything other than this amusing list of just crazy rumours-
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:57ce15iS-PYJ:psychedelic-rocknroll.blogspot.com/2011/02/forever-changes-arthur-lee-love-book.html+arthur+lee+suicide+rumor+donut&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&source=www.google.co.uk

Did "Arthur Lee" collect pigeons and dye them, so he could watch all the colors fly through the sky?

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:34 (six years ago) Permalink

I think it's funny how the cops under interrogation seem never to spend any time fighting crime.

Just reviewing employment procedure and seeking assurances.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:34 (six years ago) Permalink

kinda has a the red telephone ring to it

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:35 (six years ago) Permalink

IT'S ON

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:35 (six years ago) Permalink

<3

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:37 (six years ago) Permalink

MURDOCH TIME

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:37 (six years ago) Permalink

i'm just a gigolo
and everywhere i go
people know the part dave's playin

http://songspeak.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/nuts11.jpg

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:37 (six years ago) Permalink

CSPAN2 still carrying yates...

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:38 (six years ago) Permalink

Fuck, I can't get any site to work

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:39 (six years ago) Permalink

this one's working fine for me -

http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Player.aspx?meetingId=8910

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:39 (six years ago) Permalink

v. v. humble.

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:39 (six years ago) Permalink

humble my arse

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:40 (six years ago) Permalink

"The most humble day of my life."

Tomorrow should eclipse that, KRM.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:40 (six years ago) Permalink

sheeit, james murdoch just put many drinking game-players into comas with that opening line.

Sir Chips Keswick (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:40 (six years ago) Permalink

rupert looks like a cane toad that's about to get whacked by a golf club.

estela, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:41 (six years ago) Permalink

this is so weird. that interjection from murdoch apropos of nothing "this is the most humble day of my life"? o_0

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:41 (six years ago) Permalink

GIVE ME A GOLF CLUB

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:41 (six years ago) Permalink

it's not very humble to interrupt someone in order to announce that it's the most humble day of your life.

joe, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:41 (six years ago) Permalink

I don't think they should have RM's wife (?) nodding along behind them - no cheerleaders. Yates et al don't get them.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:41 (six years ago) Permalink

"actions don't meet standards of company" = "we didn't get away with it"

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:41 (six years ago) Permalink

lol joe OTM

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:42 (six years ago) Permalink

This bloke's looking more like Monty Burns every day

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:42 (six years ago) Permalink

james looks like an amphibian d miliband
xp

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:42 (six years ago) Permalink

JM is quite a character
v American
ve eloquent
loud
dull
hard to penetrate

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:43 (six years ago) Permalink

The murder of a whistleblower does not meet the standards of our company -- we have sacked the hitman who did the job.

didn't even have to use my akai (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:43 (six years ago) Permalink

llewelyn becoming a fall guy for this would be such a crock of shit; the idea that warnings on eg coulson's conduct were limited to things that went through him would be absurd

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:44 (six years ago) Permalink

LIZARD PERSON

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:44 (six years ago) Permalink

ahahaha

charltonbrooker Burns interrupts Smithers.

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:44 (six years ago) Permalink

"Shuddupaminit James, I'm a gonna let you speak in aminute..."

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:44 (six years ago) Permalink

it's funny having someone who can speak fluently & commandingly after the parade of mps & police, who (not a criticism) just spoke regularly

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:44 (six years ago) Permalink

it's not very humble to interrupt someone in order to announce that it's the most humble day of your life.

that, and murdoch minor making a separate statement before answering the first qn = status assertion after the committee told em they couldn't open with statements

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:45 (six years ago) Permalink

<3 <3 LOOOOOOOOL Smithers/Burns

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:45 (six years ago) Permalink

Lawyers advised him to spend 48 minutes apologising y/n

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:45 (six years ago) Permalink

james is just relying on verbal white noise

henri grenouille (Frogman Henry), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:45 (six years ago) Permalink

Dan Perry, needing you now...

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:45 (six years ago) Permalink

Rupert Murdoch looked relaxed going into the Commons hearing. His son James, however, was bricking it

http://twitter.com/#!/Kevin_Maguire/status/93314239573405696

Samantha Mumbahton (seandalai), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:46 (six years ago) Permalink

the amazing (to me) revelation that R Murdoch's mother is still alive was perfect for the Mr Burns thing.

Sir Chips Keswick (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:46 (six years ago) Permalink

mm, i wonder if i can find it; it sorta got rolled up amongst all the donut-store-robbery bullshit that dogged them for awhile, and circulated, apparently, while he was out of sight in the eighties i guess - that him & his band were playing and he killed himself.

Never heard that one. Am still awaiting independent confirmation that the snot caked against his pants turned to crystal.

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:46 (six years ago) Permalink

just a repeated lol at this is the humblest day of my life btw, i am going to say this like when i tread on someone's food in the lunch queue, etc. just like ... a minute after it happens.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:46 (six years ago) Permalink

frogman otm, tactic is clearly to filibuster

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:46 (six years ago) Permalink

JM is quite a character
v American

For an Australian Brit

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:46 (six years ago) Permalink

could be in that little barney hoskyns book, kinda years since i heard it & mmm yknow it wasn't true etc. i don't know that it was a raging inferno of mistruth, more that it spoke to the weird misinformation that abounded w/them

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:47 (six years ago) Permalink

pretty ashamed of my nationality right now fwiw

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:47 (six years ago) Permalink

lol, there is no evidence th-
THAT I AM AWARE OF!!!!!!!!!!

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:47 (six years ago) Permalink

his accent is all over the shop, it sounds like he's a bad actor valiantly trying to stay in character

Samantha Mumbahton (seandalai), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:47 (six years ago) Permalink

ask the lizard a question ffs

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:48 (six years ago) Permalink

ha! that was so qualified - no evidence that i have seen! that there was any impropriety, by them!

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:48 (six years ago) Permalink

james murdoch has no knowledge of anyone having any knowledge of anything.

Upt0eleven, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:48 (six years ago) Permalink

Rupert is just going to say fuck all and let James wait in the street for the bus huh. Can he say "Huh" and "Um" more?

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:48 (six years ago) Permalink

where is that youtube of the guy at a press conference shooting himself

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:49 (six years ago) Permalink

btw please no-one post it i am joking

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:49 (six years ago) Permalink

burns has had poker face coaching

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:49 (six years ago) Permalink

wow rupert actually giving yes/no answers.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:49 (six years ago) Permalink

Tom Watson's voice is so soft he sounds like he's scared of El Rupe.

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:49 (six years ago) Permalink

<3 <3 <3 Tom Watson! (sorry, drinking)

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:50 (six years ago) Permalink

james murdoch is truly a master of the art of bullshit

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:50 (six years ago) Permalink

wtf was that sales pitch

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:50 (six years ago) Permalink

guys i think he's die- oh no wait

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:50 (six years ago) Permalink

Tom Watson's strategy is to sound submissive but question incisively. This ALWAYS works.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:51 (six years ago) Permalink

Rupert seems a bit confused

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:51 (six years ago) Permalink

POUND the TABLE

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:51 (six years ago) Permalink

THUMP

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:52 (six years ago) Permalink

"I didn't hear that" good answer Rupe

Neil S, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:52 (six years ago) Permalink

i'll come to your son in a minute.

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:52 (six years ago) Permalink

don't think rupert has to worry about the gruelling effect of a 40 year prison sentence

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:52 (six years ago) Permalink

Watson good I think

brave, putting them in their place

Murdoch claims not to hear things

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:52 (six years ago) Permalink

the pause for thinking is killing me

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:53 (six years ago) Permalink

Blackwood getting the most praise (on Twitter) a Tory MP has since idk

blueski, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:53 (six years ago) Permalink

the post 'it was a civil case' murdoch shrug is a p good move

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:53 (six years ago) Permalink

ehhhhhhhhhhh

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:53 (six years ago) Permalink

he has the exact mannerisms of my bitch grandmother

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:53 (six years ago) Permalink

who is dead

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:54 (six years ago) Permalink

I still don't like the wife behind him nudging him comfortingly - this is wrong

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:54 (six years ago) Permalink

maybe it's an old australian thing xp

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:54 (six years ago) Permalink

LOL. "I just run the company, I don't know shit about it, especially when we break the law."

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:54 (six years ago) Permalink

Rupe looking for a spitoon to launch his chewin' baccy into

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:55 (six years ago) Permalink

i seriously had no idea that rupert murdoch had been replaced by a pickled frog thigh

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:55 (six years ago) Permalink

murdoch jr begging for mercy

joe, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:55 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah tom watson is a brave guy

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:55 (six years ago) Permalink

well done Watson, great at keeping them down

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:55 (six years ago) Permalink

LOL. "I just run the company, I don't know shit about it, especially when we break the law."

― I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 23:54 (9 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

John Howard used p much that defence when he was accused of lying about drowning refugees

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:55 (six years ago) Permalink

Loving the continual pwning of James Murdoch.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:56 (six years ago) Permalink

Tom Watson will go down as a bit of a hero I think, after this

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:56 (six years ago) Permalink

Watson has been killing this since the start.

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:56 (six years ago) Permalink

i mean.. is rupert all there? as the french say, "is he alone in his head?"

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:56 (six years ago) Permalink

these blokes have a shrewd way of remaining uninformed about things that may incriminate them

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:56 (six years ago) Permalink

i mean.. is rupert all there? as the french say, "is he alone in his head?"

― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 23:56 (3 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

shitting his pants imo

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:56 (six years ago) Permalink

i mean.. is rupert all there? as the french say, "is he alone in his head?"

....................................................................NOPE

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:56 (six years ago) Permalink

This is amazing stuff.

Josef K-Doe (WmC), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:57 (six years ago) Permalink

so many awkward pauses

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:57 (six years ago) Permalink

Rupert goin' for the Confused Old Man sympathy vote here or what?

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:57 (six years ago) Permalink

james is such a bully!

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:57 (six years ago) Permalink

this isn't good enough...he is treating the entire process with contempt.

LocalGarda, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:57 (six years ago) Permalink

haha murdoch minor getting sarky, "oh would you like me to answer questions now?"

c sharp major, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:57 (six years ago) Permalink

the 'junior soprano'

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:57 (six years ago) Permalink

MarinaHyde

Couldn't Rupert have brought along an ear trumpet? It would have made a sympathetic prop
2 minutes ago via TweetDeck

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:57 (six years ago) Permalink

props to my work proxy for cutting off all live radio + video feeds after 30 seconds, how do you do it

ledge, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:58 (six years ago) Permalink

Ach, just let him do the whole of the questioning.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:58 (six years ago) Permalink

Oh man have his lawyers told him to act like a senial old fool or is that just him? Is he going to die just to get out of this?

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:58 (six years ago) Permalink

james has got a pretty bad high blood pressure flush.

estela, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:59 (six years ago) Permalink

shocked! appalled! ashamed!

Samantha Mumbahton (seandalai), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:59 (six years ago) Permalink

lol at the guy next to tom watson just fucking LOVING IT

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:00 (six years ago) Permalink

did james actually just use the word "quantum" for like no reason at all? how do you learn to blather meaninglessly like that?

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:00 (six years ago) Permalink

drama

Watson is so darned brave, hard as nails

staring into the eyes of the monster

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:00 (six years ago) Permalink

Just the Millie Dowler case, he don't care about the rest.

What are Tom Watson's politics like? Do we like him outside of this?

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:01 (six years ago) Permalink

Aiannucci Armando Iannucci
You know that bit in Celebrity Mastermind when the celeb goes completely blank on their specialist subject? Like that, but not for charity.

Yeah, "quantum" was balls. Job interview failure.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:01 (six years ago) Permalink

there needs to be a killer question, maybe they're holding off so as to not influence later proceedings but

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:01 (six years ago) Permalink

JM's voice is so fascinating, like he went to a hypnotise-people-into-having-sex-with-you course and learned how to soothe.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:01 (six years ago) Permalink

2.57pm: Tom Watson is engaging in a thorough and detailed questioning of Rupert Murdoch of the details of the phone hacking investigations carried out internally at News International - who knew what, and when. Rupert Murdoch, who is 80, appears to be having considerable trouble following the questions and finding appropriate answers. There are long pauses between the end of Watson's questions and Murdoch's answers.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:01 (six years ago) Permalink

did james actually just use the word "quantum" for like no reason at all? how do you learn to blather meaninglessly like that?

― lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:00 (45 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

spending time with an ilxor, as we have already figured out.

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:01 (six years ago) Permalink

Tom used to be on the centre-right of the party back in the day so he's probably more or less considered a communist now

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:02 (six years ago) Permalink

there needs to be a killer question, maybe they're holding off so as to not influence later proceedings but

TW's been playing it down saying there will be no denouement, i don't know what could happen that would be conclusive; how unappealingly they're coming off is probably not a bad result here

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:02 (six years ago) Permalink

james still thinks they are running a show.

estela, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:03 (six years ago) Permalink

wow, "sit down and shut up, Junior"

wow wow

Josef K-Doe (WmC), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:03 (six years ago) Permalink

"We were the ones breaking the law, it was the Police's job to sort us out, bitch."

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:03 (six years ago) Permalink

how unappealingly they're coming off is probably not a bad result here

― Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 00:02 (26 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I agree, that's a pretty decent pay-off and could easily bollocks his share value within minutes

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:03 (six years ago) Permalink

they're being very careful not to commit themselves to any position that can be disproved later. committee can't do much about that rather than keep probing away. this was never gonna be the Murdochs' trial.

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:04 (six years ago) Permalink

Tom used to be on the centre-right of the party back in the day so he's probably more or less considered a communist now

― don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:02 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol. shame. if ever the labour party needed someone who knows how to pwn the right like he is currently doing... wait, whatever happened to ed balls?

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:04 (six years ago) Permalink

!!!!!!!!!!!

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:04 (six years ago) Permalink

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:04 (six years ago) Permalink

looooool "broken our trust with our readers"

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:05 (six years ago) Permalink

no-one has said that out loud yet, right. is tom watson caek's bro y/n

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:05 (six years ago) Permalink

I wonder if they will come off badly, in others' eyes

I guess you get out of this what you want to put in

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:05 (six years ago) Permalink

two summaries from bbc feed i'm wanting a 'Like' button for

1502: James Murdoch says it would be "more helpful" to ask him about details of decisions. Mr Watson replies it is "revealing in itself" what Rupert Murdoch does not know.

1501: Tom Watson - the man who once shouted that Michael Gove was a "miserable pipsqueak" across the Commons - is being very softly spoken in his questioning of Rupert Murdoch.

blueski, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:05 (six years ago) Permalink

Friggin' BBC feed!!!!!!!!!

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:06 (six years ago) Permalink

4/5 of our main free-to-air channels are carrying this

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:07 (six years ago) Permalink

laughter when murdoch utters the actual sentence "i just did what i was told"

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:07 (six years ago) Permalink

#backdoorgate

Samantha Mumbahton (seandalai), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:07 (six years ago) Permalink

ok what r murdoch saying "i just did what i was told" can someone gif this and loop it

c sharp major, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:07 (six years ago) Permalink

hahaha xpost

c sharp major, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:07 (six years ago) Permalink

lol

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:07 (six years ago) Permalink

This is getting more comic, more strange.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:07 (six years ago) Permalink

lawd sugah twolling now

blueski, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:08 (six years ago) Permalink

so when's bonnie langford up

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:08 (six years ago) Permalink

australia scotland translator required

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:08 (six years ago) Permalink

aaaaaaaaaahahahaha, rupert can't do scottish xp

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:09 (six years ago) Permalink

lol cameron / campbell mixup

blueski, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:09 (six years ago) Permalink

oh man that was big of Rupe to take a 200K hit on the Sun's circulation just to support his man Tony

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:09 (six years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/U6nID.png

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:09 (six years ago) Permalink

Can't get the Guardian to work either, I'm missing all the good bits

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:09 (six years ago) Permalink

so glad that tom watson laid the groundwork for people to just straight ignore james

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:09 (six years ago) Permalink

@TwopTwips: PLAYING Poker with Rupert Murdoch? If he starts banging the table, go all-in. He's got fuck all. #hackgate

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:09 (six years ago) Permalink

JM is like the slime from central casting

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:11 (six years ago) Permalink

this scottish cunt is nae fuckin good

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:11 (six years ago) Permalink

(the mp, ya)

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:11 (six years ago) Permalink

schlump otm, this little james feller is slimy and repulsive in the extreme

crap, it's midnight and i'm starving

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:11 (six years ago) Permalink

I continually picture him with dreads

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:11 (six years ago) Permalink

back to Tom, pls

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:12 (six years ago) Permalink

shut up james. your dads much more interesting/mad.

mark e, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:12 (six years ago) Permalink

"a consortium to destroy us" ?!

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:12 (six years ago) Permalink

sr. just let his real feelings out a bit - it's all a stitch up by the guardian, apparently

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:12 (six years ago) Permalink

wife in bkgrnd impatiently waiting for hubby to keel over and emit cash

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:12 (six years ago) Permalink

need to get into specifics w/ these creeps rather than unloading decades of generic resentment

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:13 (six years ago) Permalink

- do you accept that fundamentally you are responsible for this whole fiasco?

- no

c sharp major, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:13 (six years ago) Permalink

"we have apologised, what more do you want? we only broke the law!"

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:13 (six years ago) Permalink

"i would trust him with my life" - so, eight months then

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:13 (six years ago) Permalink

- do you accept that fundamentally you are responsible for this whole fiasco?

- no

― c sharp major, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 00:13 (20 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

isn't that at odds with all those press ads at the weekend?

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:14 (six years ago) Permalink

- do you accept that fundamentally you are responsible for this whole fiasco?

- no

my mind is blown

Josef K-Doe (WmC), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:14 (six years ago) Permalink

he takes it hugely seriously!

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:15 (six years ago) Permalink

are james's ears getting redder or

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:15 (six years ago) Permalink

lol yes

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:15 (six years ago) Permalink

god everybody must be wishing this boring twat wd tap out and let somebody good have a go

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:16 (six years ago) Permalink

who let johann hari in?

blueski, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:17 (six years ago) Permalink

OK, just caught the end of Wee Jimmy Sheridan, MP for my hometown, asking Rupe's son James about his son Tommy for no apparent reason

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:17 (six years ago) Permalink

financial quantum!!

c sharp major, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:18 (six years ago) Permalink

Quantum! Again!

There is power in an onion (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:18 (six years ago) Permalink

rupert looks like he's about to cry

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:19 (six years ago) Permalink

Quantum Leap would explain Rupe.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:19 (six years ago) Permalink

Maybe he's just really keen on Quantum of Solace, it makes no sense otherwise.

online pinata store (Nicole), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:20 (six years ago) Permalink

can not muffle laughter amid the sentence 'how much money do we have to spend'

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:21 (six years ago) Permalink

like, pfft, a family!, with its "limited resources"!

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:21 (six years ago) Permalink

omg & his false inquisative curious face

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:22 (six years ago) Permalink

http://www.millionaireplayboy.com/images/iphone_10.jpg

"Only a 23% chance of exoneration?!" *whacks Ziggy*

blueski, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:22 (six years ago) Permalink

I wonder what tomorrow's Times headline will be

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:22 (six years ago) Permalink

The Sun's will be something like "QUANTASTIC!"

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:23 (six years ago) Permalink

James was about to say he'd never asked about how off-book payments are made and then realised that was kind of stupid.

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:24 (six years ago) Permalink

has James actually known the answer to any question asked of him yet?

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:24 (six years ago) Permalink

"What a couple of quants!" xxp

online pinata store (Nicole), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:24 (six years ago) Permalink

therese coffey is too nervous to be effective at all

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:24 (six years ago) Permalink

The Sun's will be something like "QUANTASTIC!"

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 00:23 (44 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ahaha yes, possibly with the word "JUGS" beneath it

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:25 (six years ago) Permalink

these 2 both coming across as unfit to do their jobs from a shareholder's perspective tbh

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:25 (six years ago) Permalink

In a way what strikes me most about all this is the foreignness of the two Murdochs -- transnational figures who have to fly in, not the cockney Met types.

+ the contrast between the two

RM seems fundamentally arrogant and certain

JM perhaps nervy, overcompensating with the oil

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:25 (six years ago) Permalink

six "and"s in a row!

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:25 (six years ago) Permalink

Coffey is ineffective

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:26 (six years ago) Permalink

seriously when the transcripts are out some sub-editor just needs to go through everything james has said with a HUGE RED PEN

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:26 (six years ago) Permalink

god she is DIRE !

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:26 (six years ago) Permalink

these 2 both coming across as unfit to do their jobs from a shareholder's perspective tbh

― don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:25 (34 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Quantamly!

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:26 (six years ago) Permalink

the arrogance of JM far exceeds RM to me - like even if that isn't true it's so much more evident in the extent to which he feels justified to speak, interrupt, overrule etc

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:26 (six years ago) Permalink

the Coffey woman

really bad - a sympathizer with them

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:27 (six years ago) Permalink

This is even more brittle and more careful than I had hoped. I don't know what News Corp shareholders will read into this but I'm finding it hard to locate anything positive

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:27 (six years ago) Permalink

Coffey has asked some quite interesting questions about News Corp's management of irregular payments to people outside the organisation, this might well bear fruit down the line

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:27 (six years ago) Permalink

laziest defence of shitty journalism ever.
sometimes it causes offence

but

it's not intentional

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:27 (six years ago) Permalink

the arrogance of JM far exceeds RM to me - like even if that isn't true it's so much more evident in the extent to which he feels justified to speak, interrupt, overrule etc

― Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 00:26 (22 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I'm finding it difficult to draw that kind of conclusion because they're both incredibly nervous, incredibly guarded and incredibly deceitful atm

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:28 (six years ago) Permalink

QUANTUM CHUMP

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:28 (six years ago) Permalink

Coffey has asked some quite interesting questions about News Corp's management of irregular payments to people outside the organisation, this might well bear fruit down the line

^^
lester freeman
like i guess tom watson was doing the same by being all, supposing some other lines of hacking came to light, &c

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:28 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm finding it difficult to draw that kind of conclusion because they're both incredibly nervous, incredibly guarded and incredibly deceitful atm

i cannot permeate rupes' supershield; james is just a caricature of a schmoozy, evasive, doubletalking suit

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:29 (six years ago) Permalink

he is doing an impression of someone who gives a shit

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:29 (six years ago) Permalink

Is the suggestion from Watson's last question that Alex Marunchak did something that hasn't come out yet?

carson dial, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:30 (six years ago) Permalink

james volunteering an independent code of conduct because it's a better outcome for him than ACTUAL LAWS

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:30 (six years ago) Permalink

Oh god, Rupert trying to insinuate that this is all a conspiracy to bring down the free press. Instead of an investigation into highly illegal actions performed by his company.

emil.y, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:30 (six years ago) Permalink

"there are no immediate plans for the sunday sun a possible hypothetical sunday newspaper"

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:31 (six years ago) Permalink

lol, James was about to say "no Sunday tab" and Rupert bombed in with "no decision"

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:31 (six years ago) Permalink

xpost ha

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:31 (six years ago) Permalink

Oh god, Rupert trying to insinuate that this is all a conspiracy to bring down the free press. Instead of an investigation into highly illegal actions performed by his company.

― emil.y, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 00:30 (15 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yet another admission of guilt imo

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:31 (six years ago) Permalink

Is the suggestion from Watson's last question that Alex Marunchak did something that hasn't come out yet?

yeah, it was an obscure, short-circuited close

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:31 (six years ago) Permalink

In the latest bizarre twist in the phone hacking story it emerged that Alex Marunchak, an executive editor on the Sunday tabloid, worked for the force between 1980 and 2000 translating for Ukrainian suspects.

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:31 (six years ago) Permalink

Is the suggestion from Watson's last question that Alex Marunchak did something that hasn't come out yet?

― carson dial, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:30 (22 seconds ago) Bookmark

there are allegations that he's involved with computer hacking, having gained access to an intelligence officer's laptop in northern ireland. he's also the one who helped the alleged killers of daniel morgan obstruct the police investigation.

joe, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:31 (six years ago) Permalink

lol, James was about to say "no Sunday tab" and Rupert bombed in with "no decision"

lol otm

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:32 (six years ago) Permalink

james blathering about his passion for journalistic ethics was just...whut

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:32 (six years ago) Permalink

MURDOCH: THE ONLY WAYS IS ETHICS

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:33 (six years ago) Permalink

News Corp shares are up 3-4% today, trending up during the hearing so far - I suspect (in my near-total financial ignorance) this means "the markets" think RM is on the way out.

Groke, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:33 (six years ago) Permalink

i could've sworn that NI publications have generally called for heads of scandal-hit organisations to man up and take the rap

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:34 (six years ago) Permalink

Watching this, I imagine the medical profession think RM is on the way out

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:34 (six years ago) Permalink

these murdoch boys are not used to the establishment having the upper hand, strain really showing now

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:35 (six years ago) Permalink

@PennyRed Don't you think he looks tired? #hackgate #doctorwho

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:35 (six years ago) Permalink

btw i love how calm the interrogators are by comparison

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:36 (six years ago) Permalink

I don't think RM is strained ... I think he thinks this is beneath him

perhaps I'm wrong

he said 'quantum' again

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:36 (six years ago) Permalink

QUANTUM BINGO

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:37 (six years ago) Permalink

quantum! again!

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:37 (six years ago) Permalink

quantum of damages!

communicate as crisply as we can (c sharp major), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:37 (six years ago) Permalink

QUANTUM CHUMP was good

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:37 (six years ago) Permalink

Maybe if he says it five times he becomes Quantum Man.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:37 (six years ago) Permalink

the Tory blonde chick is waiting in the wings

to ask Tory questions maybe

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:37 (six years ago) Permalink

who is the dead-lookin dude behind murdoch jr's shoulder?

communicate as crisply as we can (c sharp major), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:37 (six years ago) Permalink

I don't think RM is strained ... I think he thinks this is beneath him

imo he's not used to being in this position (i.e. not the strongest person in any given room) and doesn't know how to deal with it

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:38 (six years ago) Permalink

four "the"s in a row

five "is a" in a row

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:38 (six years ago) Permalink

"that advice was just resting in our account!"

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:38 (six years ago) Permalink

QUANTUM OF DAMAGES

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:38 (six years ago) Permalink

ANOTHER QUANTUM!

Karen D. Tregaskin, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:39 (six years ago) Permalink

Tally of Quantums, please?

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:39 (six years ago) Permalink

Quantum of Dickthump

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:39 (six years ago) Permalink

somebody should tell james that they need more "granular" answers from him

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:40 (six years ago) Permalink

Really enjoying watching that vein popping out of James' forehead whenever he lies.

Karen D. Tregaskin, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:41 (six years ago) Permalink

"are you familiar with the term 'wilful blindness'"

ohhhhh burrrrrrrrrrrrn

communicate as crisply as we can (c sharp major), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:41 (six years ago) Permalink

yyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssss

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:41 (six years ago) Permalink

"Wilful blindness." hahahaha

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:41 (six years ago) Permalink

burrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrn

HA HA x-post

Karen D. Tregaskin, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:41 (six years ago) Permalink

When they were asking Murdoch if his employees had told him about the verdict of 'collective amnesia', I wished he'd said 'they must have forgotten'.

kip winger; radio ventriloquist (jel --), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:42 (six years ago) Permalink

"I just run the company, I don't know shit about it, especially when we break the law."

OTMx100

a more annuated ilx user (Ned Trifle II), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:42 (six years ago) Permalink

the wilful blindness moment was so weird, it was like sanders was making a not-very-veiled threat to them?

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:43 (six years ago) Permalink

like, that will be GOLD for the film

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:43 (six years ago) Permalink

amazed by this Con MP asking at the outset what COACHING they had!

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:43 (six years ago) Permalink

"we were advised [three minutes of nervous, stammering obfuscation] to be as transparent and honest as possible."

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:43 (six years ago) Permalink

"quantum creep" surely

MPx4A, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:44 (six years ago) Permalink

murdoch snr is demonstrating wilful blindness right now

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:44 (six years ago) Permalink

no answer to the who coached them, either

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:44 (six years ago) Permalink

"i'm not really in touch"

communicate as crisply as we can (c sharp major), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:44 (six years ago) Permalink

Does anyone believe any of this?

a more annuated ilx user (Ned Trifle II), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:44 (six years ago) Permalink

no

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:45 (six years ago) Permalink

I guess Al Calavicci isn't showing up just yet.

― Mark G, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:30 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:45 (six years ago) Permalink

james murdoch definitely failing a turing test today

Once Were Moderators (DG), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:45 (six years ago) Permalink

"maybe i lost sight of the NOTW because it was so...small" lolll

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:45 (six years ago) Permalink

Where is Davies going with this?

a more annuated ilx user (Ned Trifle II), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:45 (six years ago) Permalink

Ahhh, a joke.

a more annuated ilx user (Ned Trifle II), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:46 (six years ago) Permalink

wish we had captions for the MPs names and parties btw >:(

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:46 (six years ago) Permalink

we do get the same "rugby player retiring at the end of his career, in the future" headline popping up at the bottom every 40 seconds tho

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:47 (six years ago) Permalink

RM likes talking at the same time as his interlocutor - makes things less clear

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:47 (six years ago) Permalink

The Con got laughs for a question to RM - first real laughs

respect to that Con, he's brave

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:48 (six years ago) Permalink

"i can't speak to the [blah] of [blah]" is such an ugly formulation

communicate as crisply as we can (c sharp major), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:48 (six years ago) Permalink

damn son

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:48 (six years ago) Permalink

Murdochs deny knowledge of wrongdoing, shee-it
Updated 21 minutes ago

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:49 (six years ago) Permalink

unflappable, this Con

you wouldn't think he was facing the Murdochs

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:49 (six years ago) Permalink

Stop pounding the table! So rude!

It's weird, they have the same body language, their shoulders tilt at the same angle at the same time.

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:49 (six years ago) Permalink

it's like he's questioning Keith Vaz

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:49 (six years ago) Permalink

"I did not see the incident" A. Wenger

kip winger; radio ventriloquist (jel --), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:49 (six years ago) Permalink

I thought JM was at his shakiest on Tom Crone - they didn't pursue that

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:51 (six years ago) Permalink

i never actually saw that speech JM gave on the BBC a few years ago, kinda wanna dig it up now out of fascination

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:51 (six years ago) Permalink

he really doesn't want to answer the "who paid the legal fees" question

Josef K-Doe (WmC), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:53 (six years ago) Permalink

Joel Klein hasn't moved for five minutes.

a more annuated ilx user (Ned Trifle II), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:54 (six years ago) Permalink

seems bad how JM doesn't know facts basic to the case

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:55 (six years ago) Permalink

Stop pounding the table! So rude!

he's very canny on this (he thinks): he's not pounding, so he doesn't look like he's on the ropes; he's slapping the table right under the mic, so he'll sound emphatic

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:55 (six years ago) Permalink

oh man this guy

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:55 (six years ago) Permalink

answering a question with the words "I'd like to answer that question" = sure sign that you have no such intention

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:55 (six years ago) Permalink

imagining tomorrow's Guardian

Jonathan Freedland going on about fathers and sons
body language
will say the MPs were calm and did a good job
and it's unusual and historic that Parliament got them here (as we know)

and will maybe conclude AN AWAY DRAW ON POINTS

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:57 (six years ago) Permalink

or that he's startled himself by having an answer, for a change

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:57 (six years ago) Permalink

when the Con said 'I seem to be getting further with RM' -- that was the biggest putdown of JM so far

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:58 (six years ago) Permalink

no that was such a brave attempt to just utterly drown the truth in platitudes - it's a great question, it's a specific question; i was very surprised to find that-

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:58 (six years ago) Permalink

weirdly white finger nails!

kip winger; radio ventriloquist (jel --), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:58 (six years ago) Permalink

"That's a very good question" = "I have no intention in hell of answering that" right?

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:58 (six years ago) Permalink

wow yeah
xp

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:59 (six years ago) Permalink

weirdly white finger nails!

that's what they're hanging on by

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:59 (six years ago) Permalink

hey i wonder if james sees this as an opportunity to upstage his dad and accelerate his downfall

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:00 (six years ago) Permalink

because he's certainly taking the reigns here, for better or worse

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:00 (six years ago) Permalink

20 damn microphones those tabloid hacks

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:02 (six years ago) Permalink

LOOOOOOOOL at not being expected to stand by a quote because 20 mics were stuck in his face outside his home!

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:02 (six years ago) Permalink

ugh james is now feigning sentimentality re notw

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:02 (six years ago) Permalink

the rebekah brooks anguish scene is going to slay in the film

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:03 (six years ago) Permalink

1602:

Philip Davies asks if the Murdochs regret ending the News of the World to "save" Rebekah Brooks. The two decisions were "totally unrelated", Rupert Murdoch says.

TOTALLY UNRELATED!

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:04 (six years ago) Permalink

the rebekah brooks anguish scene is going to slay in the film

― lex pretend, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 01:03 (4 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

http://www.shadowlocked.com/images/stories/LISTS/003_Dec_2010/doctor_who_assistants_tournament/screamers_melanie_bush.jpg

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:04 (six years ago) Permalink

BANG mulcaire question

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:05 (six years ago) Permalink

oh god this guy

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:05 (six years ago) Permalink

Get these chumps off my screen, Lady Macbeth's been waiting in the wings for half an hour now

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:05 (six years ago) Permalink

james repeatedly struggling with the concept of a yes/no question

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:05 (six years ago) Permalink

o rly are we doin this it makes me so sad

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:05 (six years ago) Permalink

"i don't know the details of the civil actions? but i do know? that i was very disturbed? when i found out?"

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:06 (six years ago) Permalink

SPOTTED: James Murdoch appears to have a spray-tan gone RONG.

enough of the speak-to

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:09 (six years ago) Permalink

there is an awful lot these two don't know, despite (a) running the company for decades and (b) having had several days to prepare for this

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:09 (six years ago) Permalink

20 damn microphones those tabloid hacks

― Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:02 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

LOOOOOOOOL at not being expected to stand by a quote because 20 mics were stuck in his face outside his home!

― jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:02 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

YEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSS

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:09 (six years ago) Permalink

That was the prep - 100 Ways To Say Nothing.

a more annuated ilx user (Ned Trifle II), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:10 (six years ago) Permalink

well done, Hand?

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:10 (six years ago) Permalink

did collective schadenfraude just break ilx for anyone else or

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:11 (six years ago) Permalink

did collective schadenfraude just break ilx for anyone else or

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:11 (six years ago) Permalink

did collective schadenfraude just break ilx for anyone else or

― Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:11 (12 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol yeah wtf

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:12 (six years ago) Permalink

me too

it's, it's ... paper

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:12 (six years ago) Permalink

"it's paper"

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:12 (six years ago) Permalink

I like it!

a more annuated ilx user (Ned Trifle II), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:13 (six years ago) Permalink

"expletive deleted"

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:13 (six years ago) Permalink

(not the paper - the new look ilx which has suddenly appeared)

a more annuated ilx user (Ned Trifle II), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:13 (six years ago) Permalink

this Lab MP is very sarcastic toward JM

saying he never swears

'the Sunday Times - great newspaper' - why?

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:13 (six years ago) Permalink

does this guy really love the times or is he playing the long game

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:13 (six years ago) Permalink

"so the times... great newspaper..."

WHAT

xp

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:13 (six years ago) Permalink

ugh sunday times, even more wtf

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:14 (six years ago) Permalink

it's just so they can't deny that the reports are accurate, he's taking the piss.

joe, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:14 (six years ago) Permalink

kinda can't believe Brooks still to come

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:14 (six years ago) Permalink

Lord_Sugar Lord Sugar
Next MP question: Mr Murdoch senior can you tell me how much red ink and black in is used each day on Sun's print run

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:14 (six years ago) Permalink

james wants THE POLICE THE POLICE THE POLICE to conduct the investigation because half of them are in his pocket anyway

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:14 (six years ago) Permalink

He just likes The Game podcast

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:15 (six years ago) Permalink

@TheWordMagazine
The Word
Amazing: people's hero @tom_watson MP was flatmates with Neil Codling of Suede. This is bigger than Ben Goldacre/Noosha Fox #hackgate
15 minutes ago via Twitter for iPad

joe, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:15 (six years ago) Permalink

it's just so they can't deny that the reports are accurate, he's taking the piss.

― joe, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 01:14 (30 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is brilliant

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:15 (six years ago) Permalink

Am hearing Cameron "being summoned to special 1922 committee headed by Tories tomorrow" -- confirm/deny, anyone?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:18 (six years ago) Permalink

Twitter is saying exactly that.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:19 (six years ago) Permalink

Can this end already, I need to go out.

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:20 (six years ago) Permalink

John Whittingdale is a 1922'er.

"I'm glad you've asked that!"

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:20 (six years ago) Permalink

"I'd like to take this opportunity to talk for a very long time without answering the question"

There is power in an onion (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:21 (six years ago) Permalink

did parliament end up being a debate tomorrow or just a statement? i guess he has a busy day.

feel like JM has deferred on so many qs that he actually would have to honour his frequent offers to come back again.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:22 (six years ago) Permalink

this could very well be murdoch snr's final appearance as ceo of news corp

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:23 (six years ago) Permalink

On the other matters that have caught your attention this week, assuming we are thinking of the same thing, I am sure you will understand that we will want to be able to be entirely clear, for your sake and ours, that we have not been in contact with you about this subject.

So I don't think it would really be appropriate for the PM, or anyone else at No 10, to discuss this issue with you, and would be grateful if it were not raised please.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:23 (six years ago) Permalink

how did we define wilful blindness again

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:23 (six years ago) Permalink

Said 1922 committee meeting would be fun to overhear.

"...and in the immortal words of Stanley Baldwin, "Your ass went from the House to hangin with Rupe to Brooks to James and Andy C. murdered you on your own shit.""

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:24 (six years ago) Permalink

this could very well be murdoch snr's final appearance as ceo of news corp

have you asked him about this document?

no.

why not?

which document?

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:25 (six years ago) Permalink

rupe's colostomy bag must need changing at this point

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:26 (six years ago) Permalink

Can someone just bitch at him already for the death of Rawkus? RIP

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:27 (six years ago) Permalink

Twitter helped out there already, a hoy hoy:

huahsu hua
"Mr. Murdoch--James--would you please clarify whether Kool G Rap did indeed receive a 650,000 pound wage packet from Rawkus Records?"

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:28 (six years ago) Permalink

god this is just agonizingly dull

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:32 (six years ago) Permalink

What did you expect? A shootout?

StanM, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:32 (six years ago) Permalink

sorry i may have raised people's hopes

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:32 (six years ago) Permalink

^ OMG! There should be one in the movie! (xpost to self)

StanM, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:32 (six years ago) Permalink

Unbelieveable:

'brevity, please'

Alan Keen asks: 'could you paint a picture of how a Sunday newspaper is run?'

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:33 (six years ago) Permalink

lol

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:33 (six years ago) Permalink

could you breeze through the 168 year history of the notw

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:33 (six years ago) Permalink

"A Sunday newspaper is run the same as any other paper, except we all go to church in the morning first"

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:34 (six years ago) Permalink

Lol @ all the journo's lolling behind RM's back

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:35 (six years ago) Permalink

No Bagshawe questions through this whole thing? Sorry, she'll never be a Mensch to me.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:35 (six years ago) Permalink

i love those occasional coquettish delicate may i? may i just may i?s that james throws in

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:35 (six years ago) Permalink

6.30am unlock office
6.45am put kettle on
6.52am accept bribes from politicians
6.54am order yummy chocolate cake delivery for scotland yard
6.57am drink tea

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:36 (six years ago) Permalink

6.55 extricate embedded information from cake

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:36 (six years ago) Permalink

"there are thresholds of materiality where things have to move upstream": james getting metaphysical??

Sir Chips Keswick (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:37 (six years ago) Permalink

7.04am begin answering yes/no question
11.27am finish answering yes/no question

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:37 (six years ago) Permalink

prefer his metaphysics to the basic physics of 'the folder was full of paper'

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:38 (six years ago) Permalink

emma watson getting bored of the engineer guy freewheelin with his stories

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:39 (six years ago) Permalink

some real dead weight in the room

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:41 (six years ago) Permalink

murdoch snr does not believe in personal privacy

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:42 (six years ago) Permalink

how does it feel to be using the methods of investigative journalism for non investigative journalism in a way that harms the future of investigative journalism

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:43 (six years ago) Permalink

unless it's 20 cameras/mics in his face outside his house obv xp

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:43 (six years ago) Permalink

Watching this is relaxing, haven't felt this calm in ages!

kip winger; radio ventriloquist (jel --), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:43 (six years ago) Permalink

i think he is actually trying to pay off the mps in the room right now

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:44 (six years ago) Permalink

haha rupert was just WAITING to bring up mps' expenses, wasn't he

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:44 (six years ago) Permalink

looooool singapore the most open society in the world

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:44 (six years ago) Permalink

bahahaha now he's talking up SINGAPORE of all places!! was that facetious or

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:44 (six years ago) Permalink

i think he is actually trying to pay off the mps in the room right now

ha ha yes

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:45 (six years ago) Permalink

"well i think and i think and i think, i think, i think after i think"

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:45 (six years ago) Permalink

Guy in the green tie behind James, getting a bit bored.

kip winger; radio ventriloquist (jel --), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:46 (six years ago) Permalink

aaaaaaaaaaaaaand he just talked up using newspapers to run campaigns

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:47 (six years ago) Permalink

had enough of this "i'm a good person" shtick from this slimy shit, it's 1.45am, going to bed

enjoy sideshow bob

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:48 (six years ago) Permalink

Guy in the green tie behind James, getting a bit bored.

dude he has been practically mummified throughout

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:49 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm sorry – my son has just told me not to gesticulate.

"This damn middle finger of mine!"

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:54 (six years ago) Permalink

wth? (am on radio)

ledge, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:54 (six years ago) Permalink

holy fuck

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:54 (six years ago) Permalink

WTF

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:54 (six years ago) Permalink

woah

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:54 (six years ago) Permalink

oh shit what just happened???

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:54 (six years ago) Permalink

someone tried to attack Rupert

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:54 (six years ago) Permalink

holy shit what just

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:54 (six years ago) Permalink

just as i was about to turn the telly off

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:55 (six years ago) Permalink

Heard it but missed it.... what's going on?

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:55 (six years ago) Permalink

WHAT IS HAPPENING

goole, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:56 (six years ago) Permalink

Just tuned back in to find a still picture of a mural, no sound, what's going on?

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:56 (six years ago) Permalink

I hope the old cunt ends up like Milly Dowler.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:56 (six years ago) Permalink

feller tried to dewick the melting candle apparently

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:56 (six years ago) Permalink

I loved the bit where Wendi rose up like a TIGRESS to defend Rupert

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:56 (six years ago) Permalink

"Portcullis House, line 4, the Wilson Room" ??????

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:56 (six years ago) Permalink

"someone tried to attack the murdochs, james and wendy intervened"

suspended for 10 mins

ledge, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:56 (six years ago) Permalink

some bro launched himself at rupe and son, wendi defended their honour

xp

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:56 (six years ago) Permalink

good christ

goole, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:57 (six years ago) Permalink

police have got a guy with white stuff all over his face - attempted custard pie attack??

jabba hands, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:57 (six years ago) Permalink

I think someone stormed the room (or was already in it?) and went for the Murdochs, there was a kerfuffle (punch-up?), security swarmed, I'm sure I saw Wendi land a slap

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:57 (six years ago) Permalink

Portcullis House, line 4, the Wilson Room
Portcullis House, line 4, the Wilson Room
Portcullis House, line 4, the Wilson Room
Portcullis House, line 4, the Wilson Room

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:57 (six years ago) Permalink

fucking hell, last thing those two need is bloody sympathy

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:57 (six years ago) Permalink

objectively speaking, wtg wendi

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:58 (six years ago) Permalink

Inspector Sands obviously doesn't have clearance for Portcullis House.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:58 (six years ago) Permalink

when was the last time there was a physical altercation in parliament? like, 16-something?

goole, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:58 (six years ago) Permalink

seems like an involuntary violent spasm of someone dying of boredom than a coherent attack

Once Were Moderators (DG), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:58 (six years ago) Permalink

OMG replay, Wendi is fierce

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:58 (six years ago) Permalink

Shamefully Rupert doesn't appear to have been hacked.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:58 (six years ago) Permalink

seeing reruns on bbc feed right now, this bloke just jumped in out of nowhere and lunged at the murdochs

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:58 (six years ago) Permalink

no-one has said that out loud yet, right. is tom watson caek's bro y/n

― Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, July 19, 2011 3:05 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

no my actual brother is a journalist doing this from the investigative/security side for a newspaper he claims is one of two not up to its neck in this stuff. i think tom watson is NV's bro in the figurative sense.

also can i just say i am at some bullshit conference about the origin of the universe and i am gutted to be missing this. although i think from reading this thread i am hearing the word quantum less than you guys.

xp lol there is also no attempted murder at this conference :-(

caek, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:59 (six years ago) Permalink

Wendy's like, "LEAVE MY MONEY ALONE!"

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:59 (six years ago) Permalink

what the hell is going on

g++ (gbx), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:59 (six years ago) Permalink

talk of a paper plate being thrown, that must be what the white stuff is

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:59 (six years ago) Permalink

police have got a guy with white stuff all over his face - attempted custard pie attack??

YES!!!!

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:00 (six years ago) Permalink

END OF SEASON FINALE DELIVERS

caek, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:00 (six years ago) Permalink

when was the last time there was a physical altercation in parliament? like, 16-something?

2004, purple floured condom attack:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/may/19/newsid_4516000/4516355.stm

ledge, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:00 (six years ago) Permalink

classic TV version of cream on a paper plate

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:00 (six years ago) Permalink

haha it was actually a pie!!

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:00 (six years ago) Permalink

is what he used I mean

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:00 (six years ago) Permalink

so so good

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:01 (six years ago) Permalink

Guy obv. couldn't face 15 minutes of Louise Bagshawe

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:01 (six years ago) Permalink

uk parliament has the worst security

caek, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:01 (six years ago) Permalink

oh no wait

better

Josiensor

Apparently it was shaving foam, Wendi stopped him and shoved it back in his face
4 minutes ago via web

GWARN WENDI

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:01 (six years ago) Permalink

It's hardly GARY KASPAROV ATTACKED BY FLYING PENIS but I'll take whatever excitement I can get.

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:01 (six years ago) Permalink

lex otm re deng as tiger mother

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:01 (six years ago) Permalink

james is a real p-word

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:02 (six years ago) Permalink

lol

caek, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:02 (six years ago) Permalink

and the director didn't have a camera on rupert!! D'OH

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:03 (six years ago) Permalink

LOL Britain

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:03 (six years ago) Permalink

rupert looked pretty chill

caek, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:03 (six years ago) Permalink

fucking plank uk uncut

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:03 (six years ago) Permalink

Let me guess... Wendi Deng gets an apology from the committee, the pie thrower gets to share a cell for five years with Dave Gilmour's son.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:03 (six years ago) Permalink

It's the ONE THING this story lacked: SLAPSTICK!

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:04 (six years ago) Permalink

everyone in the room at my conference just stopped paying attention to the talk by the way

caek, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:04 (six years ago) Permalink

the casting for the film beginning to fall into place now

rebekah brooks - tilda swinton
james murdoch - christian bale
wendi deng - LUCY LIU

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:04 (six years ago) Permalink

people saying it was http://twitter.com/JonnieMarbles

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:04 (six years ago) Permalink

1659: BBC political editor Nick Robinson says Rupert Murdoch was apparently hit in the face with a plate of shaving foam by a man shouting: "Greedy."

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:04 (six years ago) Permalink

Wendy's like, "LEAVE MY MONEY ALONE!"

― R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 01:59 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

quote of the thread

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:05 (six years ago) Permalink

is RB going to be on tomorrow then?

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:05 (six years ago) Permalink

i've got a thing

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:05 (six years ago) Permalink

JonnieMarbles Jonnie Marbles
It is a far better thing that I do now than I have ever done before #splat

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:05 (six years ago) Permalink

Headache for casting directors now is who will play the Pie Thrower

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:05 (six years ago) Permalink

There's a still of the pie tin on MSNBC, tantalizingly close to RM's face.

boxall, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:05 (six years ago) Permalink

brooks is going to have to do more than just hire a pie thrower if she wants to evade these questions

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:06 (six years ago) Permalink

a pie thrown in a human face, forever

almost

goole, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:06 (six years ago) Permalink

chris tarrant?

Summer Slam! (Ste), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:06 (six years ago) Permalink

JonnieMarbles Jonnie Marbles
It is a far better thing that I do now than I have ever done before #splat
14 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

JonnieMarbles Jonnie Marbles
It might be quicker if Baby Murdoch simply listed all of the things that he does know #hackgate
1 hour ago

JonnieMarbles Jonnie Marbles
One gets the sense that they haven't really done the required reading ahead of their presentation. Think they may fail this module #hackgate
1 hour ago

JonnieMarbles Jonnie Marbles
I'm actually in this committee and can confirm: Murdoch is Mr. Burns.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:07 (six years ago) Permalink

good of the bbc to say that pie throwing man didn't look that young.

Pie throwing man = Jack Black

kip winger; radio ventriloquist (jel --), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:07 (six years ago) Permalink

bbc looping the clip endlessly, it's the world's most immediate animated gif

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:07 (six years ago) Permalink

http://goodonpaper.typepad.com/goodonpaper/images/pie1.jpg

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:07 (six years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/5AqWH.jpg

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:08 (six years ago) Permalink

mrtonymartin Tony Martin
James Murdoch says he has 'no direct knowledge' of the attack on his father. #Murdoch

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:08 (six years ago) Permalink

# Bio Activist, comedian, father figure and all-round nonsense. Tweeting in an impersonal capacity.

TWAT

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:09 (six years ago) Permalink

Trenchant US TV analysis: "Here's a guy who, you know, he's elderly."

boxall, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:09 (six years ago) Permalink

bbc looping the clip endlessly, it's the world's most immediate animated gif

That was one of the strangest things I've ever seen. Just looped over and over and over and over.

THIS IS THE NEWS.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:09 (six years ago) Permalink

!

pageantmalarkey pageantmalarkey

Um. Yes. Yes that was my ex-boyfriend who just custard pied Rupert Murdoch.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:09 (six years ago) Permalink

James clearly says "Father!!!"

kip winger; radio ventriloquist (jel --), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:09 (six years ago) Permalink

most embarrassing moment for whole of UK is the bobbies run across the room

Summer Slam! (Ste), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:09 (six years ago) Permalink

we're back

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:09 (six years ago) Permalink

Ha, the Mensch face in that photo!

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:09 (six years ago) Permalink

Oh fantastic, he's being praised for his guts.

boxall, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:10 (six years ago) Permalink

good job taking the actual questioning off the front pages you fucking cretin

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:10 (six years ago) Permalink

TOUCHED HIS EAR

Summer Slam! (Ste), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:10 (six years ago) Permalink

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2011/7/19/1311091401499/Attack-on-Rupert-Murdoch-007.jpg

xp ahahahaha trust tony martin to be first in with that joke

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:10 (six years ago) Permalink

guy in green tie has had time to get some tea and bickies, looks a bit happier - was getting concerned about him.

kip winger; radio ventriloquist (jel --), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:10 (six years ago) Permalink

oh fuck five billion xposts

xp

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:10 (six years ago) Permalink

1709: The session is restarted after 15 minutes. Tory MP Louise Mensch continues her questioning. She praises Mr Murdoch's "immense guts" for facing the committee.

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:11 (six years ago) Permalink

if Rupe had had any sense he'd have paid one of his own to arrange this stunt

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:11 (six years ago) Permalink

uk uncunt more like

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:11 (six years ago) Permalink

god who in their right minds would think that the best way to get rupert murdoch is to distract from the hearing and turn him into the victim

max, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:11 (six years ago) Permalink

inside job?

kip winger; radio ventriloquist (jel --), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:12 (six years ago) Permalink

either a) a News Corp employee or b) some narcissistic hippy cunt

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:12 (six years ago) Permalink

my money's on b btw

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:12 (six years ago) Permalink

uk uncut just tweeted that it was nothing to do with them

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:12 (six years ago) Permalink

That has to be the ultimate PR stunt for a comedian, even if his repertoire doesn't appear to reach much further than that of a children's party entertainer.

Post-Manpat Music (dog latin), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:12 (six years ago) Permalink

l bags doing ok wity straight qns, better than most of these blatherers

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:13 (six years ago) Permalink

with

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:13 (six years ago) Permalink

What a cunt, and completely counterproductive. Hold Murdoch to account properly and put him under scrutiny, don't pull a shitty prank.

oppet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:13 (six years ago) Permalink

James seems to think it's advisable to pretend not to know the girl's name.

boxall, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:13 (six years ago) Permalink

a man shouting: "Greedy."

That's telling him, Tarquin

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:13 (six years ago) Permalink

max otm

xps this moves fast. oppet also otm

Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:13 (six years ago) Permalink

"I see you hesitating, James Murdoch" - wish we'd had Bagshawe earlier

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:14 (six years ago) Permalink

apparently its this guy

http://www.twitter.com/JonnieMarbles

max, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:14 (six years ago) Permalink

Have only been following this via looking at newspaper headlines and finding out that someone is now dead completely changes how I feel about it, from "lol @ UK" to "full-on David Icke shit is all real".

Gravel Puzzleworth, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:14 (six years ago) Permalink

guardian web site has fallen over

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:14 (six years ago) Permalink

wow, LB gets a straight 'no' from James.

Sir Chips Keswick (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:15 (six years ago) Permalink

welp, i know what fox @ friends are gonna be running today

goole, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:15 (six years ago) Permalink

if i sign up to twitter can i call him a cunt directly?

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:15 (six years ago) Permalink

the Tory chick is asking pretty toughly it seems to me - a good interrogator

I'm a bit impressed by the Cons on this panel

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:15 (six years ago) Permalink

OMG wikipedia is quick... o_0

On July 19, 2011, Wendi used her ninja background to ward off an attacker during her husband's questioning. The move is now being referred to as the "Crouching Wendi, Hidden Dragon."[9]

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:16 (six years ago) Permalink

They kinda have to show their independence as strongly as possible. Same w/the Times. xp

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:17 (six years ago) Permalink

Rupert increasingly resembling a crumpled creepy sad-faced clown sans make-up even before the custard pie intervention

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:17 (six years ago) Permalink

wendi back to looking immaculate. only a slightly rumpled jacket to betray the drama. BOSS BITCH.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:18 (six years ago) Permalink

am i correct in thinking this idiot didn't even connect?

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:18 (six years ago) Permalink

i mean, he actually pied himself, didn't he?

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:18 (six years ago) Permalink

Louise Mensch saluting the Murdochs' courage, strength and indefatigability,

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:18 (six years ago) Permalink

he got rupert's jacket, and most of it in his face thanks to Wendi!

kip winger; radio ventriloquist (jel --), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:19 (six years ago) Permalink

"Jane Martinson reports from the hearing: He was sitting four rows back, calmly walked up with a plate of shaving foam - smacked it in Rupert's face - Wendi intervened."

This is so lolworthy. Imagine him sitting there for four hours already with that plate in his lap.

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:19 (six years ago) Permalink

THIS IS THE NEWS.

Michael Jones OTM

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:19 (six years ago) Permalink

amazing - the reverse pie - a rare move

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:19 (six years ago) Permalink

oh boo, the police are wiping his face...

kip winger; radio ventriloquist (jel --), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:20 (six years ago) Permalink

Wendi shd've kicked his balls into his abdomen while she was on

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:20 (six years ago) Permalink

uk uncut denies involvement, but otoh: "UK Uncut is your movement. There are no centrally planned actions. If you have an idea for an action, or want one on your high street, it's up to you to make it happen."

joe, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:20 (six years ago) Permalink

distractionary fallout probably somewhat averted by pie-er being completely incompetent

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:20 (six years ago) Permalink

1719: Digital Maverick

tweets: Credit to the Murdochs for deciding to continue with the questioning in spite of what happened

Sigh...

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:21 (six years ago) Permalink

Is Mrs Murdoch the destroyer that Arsenal's midfield has been crying out for? Pace, tenacity, bravery. Sign her up.
https://twitter.com/#!/iainmacintosh/status/93349324423053312

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:21 (six years ago) Permalink

can someone shop up a gif from carlos but give them all pies

goole, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:21 (six years ago) Permalink

think i need to change my stance on cd you have a relationship with a conservative

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:22 (six years ago) Permalink

LOL. Louise Mensch, "You said earlier this was the most humiliating day of your life...", Rupe: "Humbling, I said humbling." Think she got it right first time.

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:22 (six years ago) Permalink

pie-er will be a guest on Harry Hill or some such show...pie-ing himself in the face.

kip winger; radio ventriloquist (jel --), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:22 (six years ago) Permalink

hope he's a guest on Celebrity Stabface

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:22 (six years ago) Permalink

looooooooooooooooooooooool at pie in the face

the pie in the face gag hasn't been so humorous in at least 50 years

Z S, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:23 (six years ago) Permalink

James is really running this Murdoch show isn't he?

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:23 (six years ago) Permalink

this woman's great

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:23 (six years ago) Permalink

Pie thrower = Gazza?

okay i'll stop now

Summer Slam! (Ste), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:24 (six years ago) Permalink

"I'm not saying who" rather than "I don't know who"?

Sir Chips Keswick (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:24 (six years ago) Permalink

"immense courage"!

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:24 (six years ago) Permalink

Wonder if Rupert will be on the phone to his editors tonight to discuss tomorrow's front pages?

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:24 (six years ago) Permalink

James is really running this Murdoch show isn't he?

No wonder, that old geezer couldn't run a bath on his own

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:24 (six years ago) Permalink

You can't slag the guy off for doing a 'shitty' stunt, then slag him for missing..

Or, can you?

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:24 (six years ago) Permalink

GET IN Louise Mensch. "Mr Murdoch, have you considered resigning?" "No." "Why not?"

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:25 (six years ago) Permalink

really going to bed this time, looking forward to the myriad variations upon rupert-cream-pie.gif in the morning

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:25 (six years ago) Permalink

I know it's not cool to make fun of people with stutters but seriously, dubdubdubwhuhwhuwhuwhWHAT'S UP DOC

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:25 (six years ago) Permalink

"Your wife has a very good left-hook" Phil Jupitus

kip winger; radio ventriloquist (jel --), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:26 (six years ago) Permalink

You can't slag the guy off for doing a 'shitty' stunt, then slag him for missing..

yes. you can slag him off for being a moron, for drawing attention away from what's important today to focus it on himself and his pathetic attention-grab, and for being completely fucking inept at the stupid shit he intended

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:26 (six years ago) Permalink

Rupert's got the floor now

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:26 (six years ago) Permalink

GET IN Louise Mensch. "Mr Murdoch, have you considered resigning?" "No." "Why not?"

BOOM

There is power in an onion (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:26 (six years ago) Permalink

Pro-celebrity boxing: Wendi Deng vs John Prescott

ledge, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:27 (six years ago) Permalink

Who's going to play Mensch in the movie?

ha ha ha ha jack my swag (boxedjoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:27 (six years ago) Permalink

Louise Mensch was good, Tom was good, Therese Coffey was good, can't say I picked up on any of the others' work

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:27 (six years ago) Permalink

"Mr Murdoch, have you considered resigning?" "No." "Why not?"

His wife

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:28 (six years ago) Permalink

Jodie Foster

Summer Slam! (Ste), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:28 (six years ago) Permalink

"Completely and deeply sorry... deeply regret the horrible invasion of their lives"

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:28 (six years ago) Permalink

xxxp paul farrelly was also good on who knew about the 2007 internal report that said hacking was rife.

joe, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:29 (six years ago) Permalink

"Completely and deeply sorry... deeply regret the horrible invasion of their lives"

― Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 02:28 (22 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

c.f. his complete and utter disregard for people's privacy not 40 minutes ago

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:29 (six years ago) Permalink

Who's going to play Mensch in the movie?

Carey Mulligan

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:29 (six years ago) Permalink

Emily Blunt

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:30 (six years ago) Permalink

dean gaffney

Once Were Moderators (DG), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:31 (six years ago) Permalink

roffle

goole, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:31 (six years ago) Permalink

so if anything new comes out about NI's illegal activities, the Murdochs will be left looking like total hypocrites or total incompetents? good call

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:31 (six years ago) Permalink

Meh statement, we're sorry etc, we didn't know, didn't realize etc.

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:31 (six years ago) Permalink

Marbles being taken to the tower...

kip winger; radio ventriloquist (jel --), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:32 (six years ago) Permalink

It's been a nice warmup for the main course though :)

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:32 (six years ago) Permalink

Interesting. She went to grab the papers out of his hands, and he handed them off to his son.

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:33 (six years ago) Permalink

have never wanted a dude to get a shoeing in the back of the van more than this guy

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:33 (six years ago) Permalink

LM's reaction to the custard pie was incredible

Summer Slam! (Ste), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:33 (six years ago) Permalink

Marbles being taken to the tower...

hahaha

Summer Slam! (Ste), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:34 (six years ago) Permalink

Rolled down the stairs headfirst

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:34 (six years ago) Permalink

Louise Münch

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:34 (six years ago) Permalink

entire story on BBC now become BS about fun Wendi Murdoch

appalling

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:34 (six years ago) Permalink

marcusbrig - This fucking idiot has probably just changed the news agenda. Fuck you Johnny Marbles you asshole 25 minutes ago via TweetDeck

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:34 (six years ago) Permalink

Interesting. She went to grab the papers out of his hands, and he handed them off to his son.

i noticed that too!

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:34 (six years ago) Permalink

lol @ suzy

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:35 (six years ago) Permalink

Was Johnny Marbles rich enough to book an appointment for his arrest?

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:35 (six years ago) Permalink

so did the taylor settlement include a confidentiality clause or what?

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:35 (six years ago) Permalink

tmr's headline: FOAM HACKING

Roz, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:36 (six years ago) Permalink

LOST HIS MARBLES, w/ photo of Rupert underneath

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:36 (six years ago) Permalink

there is too much news

caek, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:37 (six years ago) Permalink

http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2001/06/05/dd_junior2.jpg

James Murdoch (top) and Rupert Murdoch (bottom) celebrating a hearing that for them has gone really well, proposing a toast to Mrs. Murdoch.

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:37 (six years ago) Permalink

Pls shop this in place of Mensch.

http://blog.gesweb.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/doctor-who-silent-attack.jpg

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:38 (six years ago) Permalink

they better not postpone eggheads

kip winger; radio ventriloquist (jel --), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:39 (six years ago) Permalink

BBC panel of 4 blokes is basically pro-Murdoch

depressing

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:39 (six years ago) Permalink

https://twitter.com/MurdochCreamPie

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:40 (six years ago) Permalink

sigh

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:40 (six years ago) Permalink

Seriously, it was a walk in the park for the Murdoch's today wasn't it?

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:41 (six years ago) Permalink

far from it

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:41 (six years ago) Permalink

What is the deal w/Brooks?? Is she going to testify?

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:41 (six years ago) Permalink

in about two minutes, yeah

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:42 (six years ago) Permalink

xxp

they have put themselves on very public record about a bunch of events that can now come back to bite them pretty hard if we get further evidence uncovered

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:42 (six years ago) Permalink

i'm now waiting for her to appear, sleep be damned xp

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:42 (six years ago) Permalink

there's no master plan here, this feels more like a throw of the dice

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:43 (six years ago) Permalink

"I would like to welcome Mr Rebekah Brooks"

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:43 (six years ago) Permalink

NV, seriously don't think they will feel bad about how it went down. Mensch and Watson were good and sharp.

xp Ok I suppose so. Maybe my bloodlust is too big

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:43 (six years ago) Permalink

I suspect both Murdochs know they're fucked and are just trying to scrounge what they can

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:44 (six years ago) Permalink

poor rebekah. everyone's gone home :(

Once Were Moderators (DG), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:46 (six years ago) Permalink

i'm now waiting for her to appear, sleep be damned

she's so dull I'm actually being put to sleep

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:47 (six years ago) Permalink

well, that and the three-am-ness

xpost yeah, also fucking Marbles having destroyed the tone.

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:47 (six years ago) Permalink

poor rebekah. everyone's gone home :(

only lobby journalists allowed back in post-pie, not the public/other journalists

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:48 (six years ago) Permalink

i think rebekah is wearing the exact same jacket as in the photo at the top of this thread!

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:49 (six years ago) Permalink

frustrating to have "zero visibility" on mulcaire's files

yes, very frustrating to not know what prosecutors know

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:49 (six years ago) Permalink

haha yes, it is the same jacket

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:49 (six years ago) Permalink

xp to sic: yeah, if anything's guaranteed to put me down it's this bag crapping on in the small hours

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:49 (six years ago) Permalink

Lex :-)

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:50 (six years ago) Permalink

i think rebekah is wearing the exact same jacket as in the photo at the top of this thread!

Yup

in an arrangement that mimics idiocy (Michael White), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:50 (six years ago) Permalink

ugh people on twitter need to learn

REBEKAH not rebecca
BROOKS not wade
WENDI not wendy
DENG not murdoch

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:51 (six years ago) Permalink

Dodging dodging dodging

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:53 (six years ago) Permalink

nitty gritty here

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:53 (six years ago) Permalink

this "who approved the payments?" tack must be promising, because none of them have wanted to answer it properly

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:53 (six years ago) Permalink

"Don't particularly remember any instances" of having talked about payments to private detectives...

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:54 (six years ago) Permalink

Fucking hell, she doesn't remember 11 years ago. Rupert's senility must be catching.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:55 (six years ago) Permalink

"Michelle?"

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:55 (six years ago) Permalink

Watson's sinking his teeth in this good 'n proper

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:56 (six years ago) Permalink

again, either she's certain they can consistently maintain this story or this is an enormous gamble

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:56 (six years ago) Permalink

BBC News saying Wallis was informally advising Coulson while Cameron was in opposition...

ha ha ha ha jack my swag (boxedjoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:56 (six years ago) Permalink

"I first heard Glen Mulcaire's name in 2006."

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:57 (six years ago) Permalink

Even I'd heard of him in 2006 ffs.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:57 (six years ago) Permalink

Brooks is stonewalling but I prefer her at least being definite to having to endure Murdoch Minor's meaningless wordsoup

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:57 (six years ago) Permalink

Ask her what code name they gave Mulcaire.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:58 (six years ago) Permalink

how significant is that (re Wallis)? Tory heave against Cam, or pre-emption of revelations?