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Hello! There are lots of us!

What do you teach? Who do you teach it to?

Gravel Puzzleworth, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 23:41 (thirteen years ago) link

english, to students who almost made it to university

an indie-rock microgenre (dyao), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 00:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Neurology, to residents and medical students

Previously:
MCAT Physics, verbal reasoning and "essay" writing to pre-med students for Princeton Review
English, in Japanese high schools (on the JET program) and to private students in tutorial and conversation classes
Piano and rudimentary music theory, to semi-interested 6-16 year olds taking private lessons at Yamaha

I have no formal teacher training.

The Amy Misto Family Knife (Plasmon), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 07:34 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd like some stories on this thread, if thats viable (privacy notwithstanding) for any of you! I admire the fuck out of anyone who teaches.

property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:26 (thirteen years ago) link

English to foreign types. Favourite quote: "If I have the million pounds, I will buy big house in the cunt."

rhythm fixated member (chap), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Other known teachers? Vahid/Baja?

(Me: Maths to 10-12 y/olds)

Gravel Puzzleworth, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link

knowledge, to fools

I am an old guy, and I prefer the late 90s. (Matt P), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link

with any luck, HS math next year (just got back from a massive job fair, have two little screening interviews this afternoon)

this is fresh air, i'm very gross (m bison), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link

with substantial luck, HS English in the 2011-12 school year.

good luck, m bison!

horseshoe, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link

pimpin got a campus interview tomorrow afternoon now

this is fresh air, i'm very gross (m bison), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:00 (thirteen years ago) link

lol i got a job offer from another district

champs like us, baby we were born to stunt (m bison), Thursday, 17 June 2010 03:25 (thirteen years ago) link

video production, to teenage Latinas

admrl, Thursday, 17 June 2010 03:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I teach proper deportment on a school bus.

Aimless, Thursday, 17 June 2010 03:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh hi. I just got a teaching job that I accepted. I don't start till August but -- uh -- will be posting here!

Mordy, Thursday, 17 June 2010 03:40 (thirteen years ago) link

hi 5, we are teaching bros now

when u deliver a tight lesson u should be like, son, r u scared, it looks like u just got MORDYFIED

champs like us, baby we were born to stunt (m bison), Thursday, 17 June 2010 03:48 (thirteen years ago) link

you got Mr. Sh1n31fied more like it (no, probably kids will call me by my first name)

Mordy, Thursday, 17 June 2010 03:58 (thirteen years ago) link

ESL, developmental english, and occasionally speech to adults (occasionally teenage highschool dropouts) in a small private college that is rather unique in its mission but i don't want to identify on a public message board

one of my favorite student sentences: "Workers get lezzy when the boss is away."

an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Thursday, 17 June 2010 04:03 (thirteen years ago) link

was waiting for you to show up LL!!

dyao, Thursday, 17 June 2010 04:04 (thirteen years ago) link

<3 !

an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Thursday, 17 June 2010 04:07 (thirteen years ago) link

my summer project is to read the grammar book from cover to cover :)

dyao, Thursday, 17 June 2010 04:09 (thirteen years ago) link

my summer project is to continue to develop my reading curriculum. i have not yet started working on this project, though. we're also trying to hire a new ft person, which is a little hairy.

an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Thursday, 17 June 2010 04:13 (thirteen years ago) link

ft --> full time fac

an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Thursday, 17 June 2010 04:13 (thirteen years ago) link

I've gotta find out exactly which classes I'm teaching next semester so I can prepare stuff. I've never actually done this before (did tutoring and writing center work before, but never taught a class). It's exciting!

Mordy, Thursday, 17 June 2010 04:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I am a peer educator for an intro college biology class (geared toward biology majors). I have all of the fun of teaching but the prof I work for fields all the troublesome stuff, and they also come up with the lesson plans. It's the five-week summer class right now and it's so fast-paced!

breaking that little dog's heart chakra (Abbott), Thursday, 17 June 2010 06:27 (thirteen years ago) link

with substantial luck, HS English in the 2011-12 school year.

good luck, m bison!

― horseshoe, Wednesday, June 16, 2010 2:04 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

let me just say--u will be an awesome, awesome teach

max, Thursday, 17 June 2010 06:30 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean im sure the rest of you guys are good too

max, Thursday, 17 June 2010 06:31 (thirteen years ago) link

congrats m bison! congrats mordy!

Gravel Puzzleworth, Thursday, 17 June 2010 06:36 (thirteen years ago) link

i just realized my post made it sound like we were hiring a little hairy person. this may be true, but mainly we're looking for someone competent, stable, and not likely to drive us nuts. this person could wind up being little and hairy...or not.

an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Thursday, 17 June 2010 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

hi max. i might be a little tired and overwrought lately, but at any rate that made me tear up a little bit. thank you!

Amanda, you strike me as one of the hardest-working and most committed teachers I've known. god knows it's an easy job to burn out at. your students are lucky to have you!

horseshoe, Thursday, 17 June 2010 18:34 (thirteen years ago) link

integrated math & chemistry for 10th graders

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link

thanks h! i do my best. mine is not an easy job, but it's one i enjoy and am happy to do. i'm glad someone notices.

it is a little known fact that horseshoe and i worked together (sort of) for a while :)

an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Have any of you read http://www.amazon.com/Global-Achievement-Gap-Survival-Need/dp/0465002293 ?

I've been enjoying it, and this particular paragraph jumped out at me. It's apart of a narrative being told by Helen Mountjoy, who tried to establish less test-oriented curriculum's in Kentucky:

"We were totally unprepared for the kind of response we got from our right-wing brethren... For example, it was said that these open-response tests would measure students' values, and that students would be kept in school until they could answer 'the right way.' 'Critical thinking skills' means teaching your children to be critical of you and your church.

Religious fanatics. This is why we can't have nice things.

Mordy, Friday, 18 June 2010 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link

(Curricula?)

Mordy, Friday, 18 June 2010 17:58 (thirteen years ago) link

yes

champs like us, baby we were born to stunt (m bison), Friday, 18 June 2010 18:03 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm a music teacher in Scotland, 5 days from finishing my probationary year and looking at unemployment after the summer if more jobs don't appear soon!

argosgold (AndyTheScot), Friday, 18 June 2010 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link

What ages do you teach, andy?

Music teacher is a brutal job most places imo - respect!

Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 18 June 2010 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link

"We were totally unprepared for the kind of response we got from our right-wing brethren... For example, it was said that these open-response tests would measure students' values, and that students would be kept in school until they could answer 'the right way.' 'Critical thinking skills' means teaching your children to be critical of you and your church.

i dunno the context here but it seems like kind of a weak argument to blame the parents. if parents don't understand what "critical thinking" means in the context of standards and testing then the state board / school districts / school administrations / classroom teachers aren't doing a good job of explaining themselves to the stakeholders. we explicitly teach both values and critical thinking at our school but we're also quite explicit with parents and students about what critical thinking skills and values we're teaching and what they represent.

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 18 June 2010 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link

hi guys, i am a teacher. elementary. actually, i'm back in school this next year getting my m.ed. books i am reading lately for it:

peter maclaren: life in schools
deborah meier: playing for keeps
diane ravich's new book

ampersand (remy bean), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link

remy would you recommend any of those books?

have you read 'why children fail'?

Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 18 June 2010 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link

I love the first two. Maclaren comes from the Marxist/Paolo Freire camp, and he's got a good (appropriately incensed) energy that he brings to the idea of education reform. The book is dated in places, but not ineffective from a philosophy standpoint. Pretty provocative, actually. Deborah Meier is an inspiring teacher and talented author, and the schools she works in sound... pretty amazing.

No, I haven't read 'why children fail' but I've heard good things. Worth picking up?

ampersand (remy bean), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link

i'll try to read those two then!

'why children fail' is good, yeah - it's very easy and pleasant to read and it's interesting - I read the later version, where he's annotating his own book, and it seemed like that'd be better. it's a bit dated fwiw but not totally so. i found it really spoke to me as the kind of teacher I am at this stage (4 yrs experience): he's very convincing about saying that imbuing a good learning strategy is the most important thing, and very honest about not really knowing how to do it (I'd love to read books that offered more on the latter, if you had any recommendations) but the stuff that really struck with me is the stuff that goes: sometimes you should asking the kid to work out the phoneme with a neutral expression and not-giving-away-the-answer and etc, and just read to the damn kid.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 18 June 2010 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link

the meier/ravitch columns in ed week are a traet

ico-friendly plaxic bottle (m bison), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link

they are, huh?

ampersand (remy bean), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link

(that was meant sincerely, not sarcastically)

ampersand (remy bean), Friday, 18 June 2010 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I really want to read the Ravitch book - it's next on my list. Have you guys seen the interview she did recently in Slate?

Mordy, Friday, 18 June 2010 23:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Here's the Ravitch interview: http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/thewrongstuff/archive/2010/05/17/diane-ravitch-on-being-wrong.aspx

What teaching related journals/magazines do you guys read regularly?

Mordy, Sunday, 20 June 2010 00:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Also! Can any of you recommend a good history of pedagogy text?

Mordy, Sunday, 20 June 2010 01:54 (thirteen years ago) link

a history of pedagogy? why would you want to read that?

i imagine it might be more reasonable and useful to narrow it down by audience, context and content.

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 20 June 2010 03:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Sorry about the spammy links. Next time I'll just tinyurl it.

Mordy, Sunday, 20 June 2010 03:38 (thirteen years ago) link

also remy tell me your class! i bet that is an awesome class to be in.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Sunday, 20 June 2010 03:58 (thirteen years ago) link

admrl, how'd you go about starting to teach video production to teenage latinas?

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Sunday, 20 June 2010 04:19 (thirteen years ago) link

It's through a community arts program affiliated with my school. It's awesome though, an all-girls' public high school in East LA. My students could "MESS" YOU UP (I probably shouldn't swear here)

admrl, Sunday, 20 June 2010 04:33 (thirteen years ago) link

High school history.

Super Cub, Sunday, 20 June 2010 04:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Plasmon, doing the JET program and another ALT job in Japan convinced me to become a teacher.

Super Cub, Sunday, 20 June 2010 04:41 (thirteen years ago) link

It is very likely that come September I will be starting the path to teaching HS level students in MA. Pretty excited about this tbh.

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Sunday, 20 June 2010 04:48 (thirteen years ago) link

yay Erica! is it an alt cert program? mine technically starts in september, too, a year-long university program. taking a couple classes this summer.

horseshoe, Sunday, 20 June 2010 04:53 (thirteen years ago) link

I probably make reference to this too much in other posts and in my writing in general, but I teach elementary school in the Toronto area. I've done either grade 6 or grade 7 for the past decade. I'm eight school days away from summer vacation. The public just loves us for the two months off.

clemenza, Sunday, 20 June 2010 05:04 (thirteen years ago) link

x-post - :D It's actually pretty confusing and I need to call the state ed dept on Monday but I *think* that as long as I pass the Massachusetts Tests for Educator Licensure, I can get a preliminary license. I'm just not clear on what that means exactly and whether or not it's good enough for the kinds of positions I'd be interested in.

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Sunday, 20 June 2010 05:06 (thirteen years ago) link

i find all the certification stuff endlessly complicated, too. but yay, that rules!

horseshoe, Sunday, 20 June 2010 05:08 (thirteen years ago) link

:D

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Sunday, 20 June 2010 05:10 (thirteen years ago) link

btw - It rules that you are also doing this and I echo what Max said above.

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Sunday, 20 June 2010 05:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Is there any US equivalent to tes.co.uk - like, an actual site that respectable US teachers read and post at?

Gravel Puzzleworth, Saturday, 26 June 2010 08:35 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

ilx?

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 03:33 (thirteen years ago) link

what what, new teacher training in less than 2 weeks

for those about to s1ock, we slutsk you (m bison), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 03:38 (thirteen years ago) link

me too! orientation in a few weeks. btw, don't think i've mentioned it here, one of my highschool classes next semester is US History + Popular Music.

Mordy, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 03:57 (thirteen years ago) link

:O hella jeal

for those about to s1ock, we slutsk you (m bison), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 04:00 (thirteen years ago) link

English to foreign types. Favourite quote: "If I have the million pounds, I will buy big house in the cunt."

― rhythm fixated member (chap), Wednesday, June 16, 2010 2:34 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark

me too. favorite misspelling: "Mohammad was chosen to deliver a massage from Allah."

symsymsym, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 08:06 (thirteen years ago) link

just found out i'm teaching mostly geometry, but one period of alg 2.

for those about to s1ock, we slutsk you (m bison), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs216.snc4/39154_685807015335_25406876_38972997_4079718_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs116.ash2/39154_685807025315_25406876_38972998_699063_n.jpg

this is what my classroom looks like rite now, have very few ideas of how to pretty it up. thinking of doing a section called IMPORTANT MATH PPL and highlight contemporary ppl doin tite math 4 a living (nate silver, that lady who got on the futurama dvd, jaime escalante even tho he is rip'ing it up now ;_;). that should maybe get 10% of the walls.

for those about to s1ock, we slutsk you (m bison), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 15:05 (thirteen years ago) link

do you have to leave the desks where they are?

Eggs, Peaches, Hot Dogs, Lamb (remy bean), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link

some of these are a little silly, but:

http://www.mathteacherstore.com/middle/midlpost/5-8/mathpostA.htm

http://www.mathsoul.com/

have shown up in my room

Eggs, Peaches, Hot Dogs, Lamb (remy bean), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 15:16 (thirteen years ago) link

FRACTALS

the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 15:17 (thirteen years ago) link

And pictures of that pointy green cauliflower that grows in spirals. Or maybe just a fresh head of it on your desk every week. I could look at that freak of nature all day.

the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 15:17 (thirteen years ago) link

remy - i can do whatever with the desks, i scattered them just to see how much spread i could get in terms of width b/c they were shoved on one side when i got in yesterday morning

laurel - i will so post pictures of geometrically interesting foods, 4 real

for those about to s1ock, we slutsk you (m bison), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 15:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Also: Square watermelons.

the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 15:35 (thirteen years ago) link

okay, these are really cool. i wonder if you could print/enlarge them?

http://www.geekosystem.com/fruit-mri-pineapple-orange-banana/

Eggs, Peaches, Hot Dogs, Lamb (remy bean), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 15:49 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

a rolling thread where we are exhausted

jerk of all trades (m bison), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 02:45 (thirteen years ago) link

a rolling thread were we are still on holiday

how is this going for you?

Gravel Puzzleworth, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 03:15 (thirteen years ago) link

just started orientation yesterday. already tired.

Mordy, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 10:28 (thirteen years ago) link

(lol. it'll be better tmmrw when i can start carpooling half hour to work and not hour + half by public transportation)

Mordy, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 10:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Bison do Ken Keeler in yr maths dudes talk too!

I used to lurk on some turtle forums (Trayce), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 10:49 (thirteen years ago) link

starting next monday. hopefully I can get moved into my new flat before then.

dyao, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 12:12 (thirteen years ago) link

first class this morning. think of me!

The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 12:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Good luck, LL!

I teach rotating terms of legal writing, business law, and contracts to paralegal students at a community college. I'm a lawyer by day, but love teaching so much more than I love lawyering, so once I get a little more experience under my belt, I'm going to see how I can maybe teach full time. First bizlaw class of the term is this Saturday. I'm pretty excited, but I had foot surgery so I have one foot in a big boot thing which is going to cramp my very mobile, pacing, animated teaching style.

Jenny, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 13:05 (thirteen years ago) link

i lived! i think it was among my best first-classes ever. i gave good examples and tied everything together by the end of class and led right up to their homework. i love teaching.

The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link

now i am eating a salad that smells a little old/off but i am eating it anyway because the only other food i have here is a package of ry-crisps and some stale graham crackers. (file under: sad contents of teacher's desk)

The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Awesome! High five!!!

er about the class, not about your sad lunch.

Jenny, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link

xposts to trayce

i'm doing spec ed math, so ken keeler will be a bit inappropriate for their current level understanding, but i am going to find a way to throw futurama in there (thinkin the wall street episode, the montage where they go down different streets, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, πth street...where does pi go on the number line, BOOYAAAAA)

jerk of all trades (m bison), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 02:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Yess :D

I used to lurk on some turtle forums (Trayce), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 11:26 (thirteen years ago) link

dyao – sucks. i'm not able to move into my new place until (9/1), and i'm teaching full time beginning next week (8/30) and the movers are charging me nearly $800 to move 3 miles.

SYNTAX ERROR (remy bean), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 12:10 (thirteen years ago) link

that sucks remy. I schlepped my fridge (not a big one but still reasonably large) across town yesterday, was not fun. I'm moving my flat piece by piece, lucky in that I have an office to serve as a intermediary stop. hopefully will get done by the weekend. your movers sound like highway robbers!

got teaching materials yesterday for a class that starts monday. still no word on teaching materials for my other class which starts wednesday. found out for that class, it's only going to be and this other guy who's the course coordinator. he's the dude who basically plagiarized teaching materials from the web for this same course last year without giving credit, who was always late in distributing course materials, completely changed the nature of the final exam and basically screwed over the students. looking forward to a fun semester working with this dude.

dayo, Thursday, 26 August 2010 02:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Just found out today that I'm teaching an 8th grade class of boys a lit semester themed around Survival that is including at the very least "Alive" and "Into Thin Air."

Mordy, Thursday, 26 August 2010 02:25 (thirteen years ago) link

a nickel will get you a dime that lord of the flies is on the syllabus. yeah?

dayo, Thursday, 26 August 2010 02:26 (thirteen years ago) link

oh yes, most definitely

Mordy, Thursday, 26 August 2010 02:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Good job LL! I'm always so nervous about first class back - it seems such a leap to go from 'not having taught for 2 months' to "I expect your unconditional loyalty and devotion starting RIGHT NOW - ps we are studyin' numbers" - like, I know I can do it, but it seems like a kind of magic that I always expect to be exposed in!

Gravel Puzzleworth, Thursday, 26 August 2010 02:58 (thirteen years ago) link

oh
my
GOD

i just tripped over some cords and fell flat on my belly in front of my speech class -- it was like slow-mo
as i did this, i squealed WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
did not get injured, unless you consider loss of cred an injury

sweet jesus

The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Friday, 27 August 2010 01:01 (thirteen years ago) link

once I taught for a full hour without realizing my fly was open. :o

dayo, Friday, 27 August 2010 01:35 (thirteen years ago) link

hole in the back of my pants on the day i wore my lucky elephant boxer shorts (in fifth grade class)

SYNTAX ERROR (remy bean), Friday, 27 August 2010 01:52 (thirteen years ago) link

First assignments distributed this week.

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 August 2010 03:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh -- I'm an adjunct professor of English.

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 August 2010 03:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Ok so I'm finally home now. In my final piece of inspiration to my speech class, did I implore my (adult) students to pick themselves up, dust themselves off, and continue if they fall down during their speeches?

You know I did. It's a corny teacher moment, but they seemed to like it. I don't have any native speakers in this class, so that makes it a little more fun. Ah well.

The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Friday, 27 August 2010 03:27 (thirteen years ago) link

aw, I bet your students aren't even going to remember this accident a month from now.

from the advice of a colleague, created a separate facebook account for interacting w/ students with. think it might be a useful way to convey information about due dates, requirements, etc. & maybe an interesting alternative to e-mail.

dayo, Friday, 27 August 2010 04:30 (thirteen years ago) link

oh, i meant to tell you -- the merriam webster's learner's dictionary website is fantastic. they have a blog with posts that should be interesting to students of your level, word of the day, pronunciation exercises, a place to create your own dictionary, all kinds of neat stuff. i think they recently made it a lot different/better. also recommended: visual thesaurus (dot com). great for vocabulary, words with two different definitions that are 2+ parts of speech, demonstrating language shit in an interesting way, etc.

The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Friday, 27 August 2010 04:35 (thirteen years ago) link

wow, thanks for the tip! going to check it out right now

dayo, Friday, 27 August 2010 04:37 (thirteen years ago) link

:) my pleasure

The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Friday, 27 August 2010 04:39 (thirteen years ago) link

my coordinator just came by and dropped off the materials, still crappy, still plagiarized. \(O_o)/

dayo, Friday, 27 August 2010 06:05 (thirteen years ago) link

oh yeah while I was showing him my iPad he made a joke about "don't show me all the porn I know you've got on there!"

...

dayo, Friday, 27 August 2010 12:07 (thirteen years ago) link

way to project, loser

The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Friday, 27 August 2010 12:09 (thirteen years ago) link

(him, not you)

The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Friday, 27 August 2010 12:11 (thirteen years ago) link

hah - also word on the street is he's dating a 25 year old who used to be a student (not sure if she was his student specifically or not) at his last university. on facebook they are 'engaged.' he is 45.

dayo, Friday, 27 August 2010 12:11 (thirteen years ago) link

he is giving all of us a bad name

The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Friday, 27 August 2010 12:13 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm taking tesol classes at the moment. teaching english has always appealed to me so i decided to give it a try. i like reading you people's posts about it.

estela, Friday, 27 August 2010 12:21 (thirteen years ago) link

oh! wonderful -- you will salvage our collective reputation if anyone can.
if you have any questions, i'd be glad to answer them :)

The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Friday, 27 August 2010 13:17 (thirteen years ago) link

LL, that was a Good Save! I think the only way to recover from those kinds of events is to be self-deprecating and corny.

Jenny, Friday, 27 August 2010 13:19 (thirteen years ago) link

amanda is the bestest tesol teacher btw

dayo, Friday, 27 August 2010 13:32 (thirteen years ago) link

awww <3
certainly the clumsiest

i'm feeling really unusually motivated this semester. it feels good!

The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Friday, 27 August 2010 13:39 (thirteen years ago) link

aw thanks, ll, i'm sure i will have questions as i go along.

estela, Friday, 27 August 2010 14:15 (thirteen years ago) link

first two classes went okay on Monday, another one today...

the course packet for the above mentioned plagiarized course is pretty lol.. I can pretty much take a sentence from any page in the packet, google it, and find the original source...

dayo, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 01:33 (thirteen years ago) link

that is super lame
would not pass for student work, don't see why it would pass for administration?

today in my class we were talking about how new words are born, and it was really fun
i love my job

The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Wednesday, 1 September 2010 01:36 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah. I dunno, my school uses TFQ (teaching feedback questionnaires) as its primary way to evaluate teachers, and it kind of sucks - you just need to entertain the students & get them to like you in order to keep your job (which is what this guy does). stanley fish wrote some good oped pieces earlier this summer about the drawbacks of using TFQs as primary evaluation devices.

dayo, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 01:41 (thirteen years ago) link

it all depends on how they're written, imo. sometimes they can elicit better information, sometimes not.

The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Wednesday, 1 September 2010 01:44 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, I def agree they can be valuable, but I don't like the idea of basing hiring decisions on them (sorry should have mentioned that in my post - my school basically decides whether to hire or fire you based on how good your TFQ is)

dayo, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 02:26 (thirteen years ago) link

also, grammar question for all the ESL/EFL teachers itt: I'm working on teaching comparisons and comparative structures right now. the grammar book mentions that with adverbs that end in -ly, you need to use the 'more X-ly' construction. i.e. more slowly, more brusquely, more sharply (examples from the book). however what's the difference in meaning between:

John works more slowly than Peter does
John works slower than Peter does

to my ear, both of those sentences sound the same? whereas with the following two

Bill dresses more sharply than Adam does
Eric dresses sharper than Rick

the second example definitely does sound a bit off.

dayo, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 02:30 (thirteen years ago) link

has anybody here used Blackboard? My school just switched from WebCT to Blackboard and I'm wondering if I want to get hot n heavy with this software and use it for setting up email groups so students can read each other's weekly response papers to the reading. Thoughts?

the tune is space, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 02:36 (thirteen years ago) link

our school uses Blackboard, and my university used blackboard too. you can set up discussion forums on blackboard. for one of my classes we did something similar to what you're suggesting - everybody posted their weekly response on blackboard. but I don't know how many of the students actually read the other students' responses.

dayo, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 02:38 (thirteen years ago) link

it seems really powerful and flexible, I just don't want to "bet the farm" on having students submit lots of content to it if they're not likely to look at it / use it. But I can see the advantages in terms of messaging people about course related stuff.

the tune is space, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 02:48 (thirteen years ago) link

teachers at my school don't really seem to know how to use it, they just use it as a storage place for all their course files.

anyways, I've answered my own question upthread - the book was just describing tendencies for choosing between the -er and the 'more' form, there is a great degree of flexibility in choosing. ugh english is so hard to teach

dayo, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 02:52 (thirteen years ago) link

has anybody here used Blackboard? My school just switched from WebCT to Blackboard and I'm wondering if I want to get hot n heavy with this software and use it for setting up email groups so students can read each other's weekly response papers to the reading. Thoughts?

Blackboard is terrible software for stupid technophobes.

SYNTAX ERROR (remy bean), Wednesday, 1 September 2010 03:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Personally, I'm phobic about wasting my student's time and energy, and my own time and energy. I make no claims to be a code-writing fiend, but that hardly makes me a technophobe. Kind of busy with the content of the course (an upper division seminar for undergrads on Edmund Spenser which asks them to read all of "The Faerie Queene"). Just trying to talk to other teachers about whether they've enjoyed using this software. Oh, and are all technophobes stupid? Or are there some people who happen to be both technophobes and stupid? And in either case, are you actually accusing me of being a stupid technophobe, or just claiming that anyone who is skeptical/curious about a new piece of software's utility in the classroom is a stupid technophobe?

the tune is space, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 03:17 (thirteen years ago) link

John works more slowly than Peter does
John works slower than Peter does

to my ear, both of those sentences sound the same? whereas with the following two

Bill dresses more sharply than Adam does
Eric dresses sharper than Rick

the second example definitely does sound a bit off.

as i read it: prescriptively, the second sentence in each pair is technically inaccurate. one of them sounds more inaccurate to your native-speaking ear because descriptively, people do say that. less so the second example. but in terms of language teaching, which is usually done somewhat prescriptively so as to avoid serious confusion, i would say go with the more + adverb formula. it's safe, and students are not going to benefit as much from what flies descriptively. imo, of course.

The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Wednesday, 1 September 2010 03:20 (thirteen years ago) link

i would be thrilled to use blackboard, as most of my students are technophobes. instead, we have moodle.

The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Wednesday, 1 September 2010 03:21 (thirteen years ago) link

thanks LL, that sounds about right.

dayo, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 03:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I'll probably use Blackboard next term, at least as a place to house documents and links. We used it when I was in law school and I hated it, but it's all we got.

Jenny, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 03:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, a lot of my students don't have easy access to computers and I don't want to make their grades dependent on their being able to get to a computer lab at school. Just getting them to type their assignments in legal writing was like pulling teeth.

Jenny, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 03:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I've been in the last couple of days setting up the classroom. Well, yesterday I actually just sat at the computer--I need a day to get re-acclimatized to the simple fact of being there. I've been working my way through The World Is Flat over the summer. Made me extra glad I'm a teacher and don't have to worry about "high-value added skills" and all that stuff.

clemenza, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 04:13 (thirteen years ago) link

just putting this out there:

http://eltj.oxfordjournals.org/content/current

is pretty good and I've got an institutional subscription. if any of the articles look interesting to you guys let me know and I could, uhm, share.

shorn_blond.avi (dayo), Thursday, 2 September 2010 03:46 (thirteen years ago) link

thanks!

The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Thursday, 2 September 2010 11:57 (thirteen years ago) link

As a continuing ed instructor, I get paid by the student and I just found out yesterday that I have 23 in my class this term. That's a lot! And, bonus, this is not a writing class so unlike last term when I had to read 24 legal writing assignments every week (omg), I just have to grade 23 midterms and 23 finals.

I had my first class this past Saturday and I have a lot of really interesting students. In a good way! That's one thing I love about continuing ed - my students are v. interesting individuals that I enjoy getting to know.

Jenny, Thursday, 2 September 2010 13:24 (thirteen years ago) link

my teacher ed program started this week. officially freaked out

horseshoe, Thursday, 2 September 2010 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link

oh please, you're a natural
stop the freakouts before they start imo

The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Thursday, 2 September 2010 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link

aw <3 means a lot coming from you, Amanda
i think i will maybe just take a nap and calm down

horseshoe, Thursday, 2 September 2010 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah just remember that in order 2 b a good teacher, u have to not freakout, ever

oneohtosh point never (m bison), Thursday, 2 September 2010 22:51 (thirteen years ago) link

doing responsive classroom stuff today. it is good and all, but kind of... obvious?

SYNTAX ERROR (remy bean), Thursday, 2 September 2010 23:59 (thirteen years ago) link

sorry but need to vent - hate it when that dude I'm working with from upthread e-mails me about his sessions and says something like "many of the students are not very strong..." (happens all the time)

have you ever thought that you are just not teaching them effectively

grandma: smells and textures :: 180 (dayo), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 03:54 (thirteen years ago) link

also, just turned down a request to write a rec letter. that felt bad. but I honestly think lukewarm rec letters hurt more than help. need to have a range of stock responses stored for next time.

grandma: smells and textures :: 180 (dayo), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 04:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Not much, just fractions to a niece, and it was frigging harder than I ever imagined it would be. Sister-in-law got a laff watching.

B'wana Beast, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 05:20 (thirteen years ago) link

I won't write rec letters for everybody either. Some of my students, as much as I might like them personally, are just not very recommendable.

dayo, how did you tell the student that you would not write the letter?

Jenny, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 13:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Does anyone happen to know of any EFL schools in London looking for teachers? I've been doing agency work all summer, and it's abruptly dried up.

rhythm fixated member (chap), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 13:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I sort of hemmed and hawed and told her that she did pretty good work (B to B+ student I would say) but I said that she was very quiet in class, I didn't really notice her contributing during group work, etc - also explained that I could only write her a fair letter, and that would probably hurt her application more than help. not sure if she fully understood. I tried to soften it by saying I would help her look over her application, give her advice on her essays etc. xp

grandma: smells and textures :: 180 (dayo), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 13:12 (thirteen years ago) link

That seems like a nice way to do it!

Jenny, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 13:17 (thirteen years ago) link

is there any way we could move this thread to 77 or deindex it or something? i'm getting a little nervous about it.

The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Friday, 10 September 2010 03:49 (thirteen years ago) link

lalech, twice in the past two weeks our tesol teacher has almost tripped on a cord, and each time i've immediately thought of you and lolled, which probably makes me look mean and/or inappropriate.

estela, Friday, 10 September 2010 03:56 (thirteen years ago) link

hahaha
i insinuate myself into many unusual situations

i have a funny story but i want to wait to post it til the thread is safeguarded
today was full of conflict and crying

The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Friday, 10 September 2010 04:03 (thirteen years ago) link

i was not the one crying fyi
it's week 3 -- usually someone cries by this point

The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Friday, 10 September 2010 04:04 (thirteen years ago) link

as soon as the thread is safe i want to hear this story.

estela, Friday, 10 September 2010 04:26 (thirteen years ago) link

can we move it to 77? is that ok? i don't want to exclude anyone...but i am dying to tell this story

The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Friday, 10 September 2010 04:27 (thirteen years ago) link

it's a good idea. and anyone who isn't on 77 and wants to be just has to ask and they get added so there are no real issues with exclusion.

estela, Friday, 10 September 2010 04:35 (thirteen years ago) link

mod request requested

The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Friday, 10 September 2010 04:35 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm mad paranoid and love my job* too much to endanger it.

*really, for real i do actually genuinely ENJOY what i do for money

The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Friday, 10 September 2010 04:37 (thirteen years ago) link

i can tell!

estela, Friday, 10 September 2010 04:48 (thirteen years ago) link

i asked the mod board and they suggested starting a new thread on 77. i'll wait til the morning to start it, and will let you know if/when i do. i would rather have a high level of privacy if we're talking about something that -- for some people -- is be as controversial as teaching.

i don't want to get burned or drowned or blacklisted for this. it's not that the story is so good, it's just that we're dealing with a sensitive subject here.

The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Friday, 10 September 2010 04:58 (thirteen years ago) link

is be == can be or is, depending on which way i rewrote that sentence like 5x

The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Friday, 10 September 2010 04:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I just started one FYI

always be cozen (dayo), Friday, 10 September 2010 04:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Could someone here send me a 77 invite? I'm not on there yet.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 10 September 2010 06:25 (thirteen years ago) link

just ask on this thread and a mod will add you.

Request Access to 77 Borad

estela, Friday, 10 September 2010 06:34 (thirteen years ago) link

so I'm confused about one activity that keeps on coming up in my materials. we're practicing listening and I'm supposed to ask them to do a 'pre-listening' activity where they 'predict' the content of the recording before listening, based on the title of the recording, and then try to see if what they predicted matches up with what is said.

is there a pedagogical base for this? does it sound stupid to anybody else? I can't recall doing anything similar at all to this in my language classes in school.

dayo, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:38 (thirteen years ago) link

ability to prejudge ilx threads as clusterfucks

tunde atablimpie (m bison), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:39 (thirteen years ago) link

ha, i had an exercise yesterday where ss had to predict what an article called "about engineering" would be "about".

i guess maybe it has smthg to do with developing the ability to glean gen ideas from key words in texts where they won't know many of them (wds). same as we've been practicing "skimming" as a skill. just speculating on the intent though, and no idea really if it's at all effective.

rent, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 04:38 (thirteen years ago) link

so I'm confused about one activity that keeps on coming up in my materials. we're practicing listening and I'm supposed to ask them to do a 'pre-listening' activity where they 'predict' the content of the recording before listening, based on the title of the recording, and then try to see if what they predicted matches up with what is said.

is there a pedagogical base for this? does it sound stupid to anybody else? I can't recall doing anything similar at all to this in my language classes in school.

― dayo, Monday, September 20, 2010 11:38 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

some of the stuff i'm reading for my teacher ed program suggests doing this. i guess it's to get them in an active reading/listening posture? it is hard for me to imagine not seeming stilted in the classroom, but what do i know?

horseshoe, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 04:41 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah maybe it's designed to make them more active listeners? idk. the thing is I can't take it for granted what vocab if any my students know about the subjects at hand, and it's rly hard to guess what passage called 'there is no right or wrong answer' is going to be about?

dayo, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:00 (thirteen years ago) link

it's a standard thing in esl teaching to ask students to "predict" what something will be "about" -- what they're really doing is making inferences about limited context clues, something we all do without thinking about it. when you see a thread that says "thread where we are teachers" you use your previous understanding of ilx to know that this is a thread for people who are teachers, not a thread where people teach you how to do things. when you see a thread that says "clusterfuck thread" and it's about different kinds of international soft cheese, you realize that you predicted incorrectly. it's just developing that skill to correctly infer what something will be "about." like critical thinking, it's a skill that must be developed.

The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 12:12 (thirteen years ago) link

okay, that makes sense - thanks LL. I'll try to use it more in my next few classes

dayo, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 12:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm doing my own social studies this year for the first time in a while. We covered the Beringia Land Bridge Theory yesterday, lead-in to our Native Canadians unit. For the first and last time in my life I was thinking, "You know, I could really use Sarah Palin as a guest lecturer today."

clemenza, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 11:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Thursday we were doing the five kingdoms of living things, and I had a girl read "amoeba" off the board as "Obama." I was able to milk that for laughs the rest of the day. "Bacteria" was up there too--if only someone had read that as "Gingrich."

clemenza, Sunday, 26 September 2010 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link

just wanted to share this with all my other ESL teachers, found it through a link from a link that LL originally sent me

http://www.voanews.com/learningenglish/home/

they have a youtube too!

http://www.youtube.com/voalearningenglish

tumlbrah (dayo), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 05:49 (thirteen years ago) link

also this story is awesome and uplifting

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/28/education/28school.html

tumlbrah (dayo), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 07:39 (thirteen years ago) link

we're doing something similar at my school!

this is key: “Let me help you,” was a response committee members said they often offered to reluctant colleagues who argued that some requests were too difficult.

The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 12:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Ughh I think I just had my least favourite lesson since I got to the basic-class-control stage 3 years ago: there is a HUGE FUCKING DRILL right outside school and the whole building is shaking? Ughhh I like talking about decimals and all but I just want to put a pillow over my head.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 1 October 2010 12:11 (thirteen years ago) link

sharing another cool website that I use fairly frequently

http://www.unc.edu/depts/wcweb/esl/videos.html

http://eslonthehill.wordpress.com/

lots of good stuff for higher level ESL teaching

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile (dayo), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 13:21 (thirteen years ago) link

five months pass...

Hello,

I was hoping that there may be discussion of How To Write A Teaching Philosophy on this thread, but there is none. How does one compose one of these things?

puff pastry hangman (admrl), Friday, 11 March 2011 23:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I found a lot of samples and just went from there

http://www.crlt.umich.edu/tstrategies/tstpts.php

dayo, Friday, 11 March 2011 23:41 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

hoo boy

Pompoussin (admrl), Monday, 30 May 2011 18:39 (twelve years ago) link

I teach English to foreign students and I teach people how to teach English to foreign students and sometimes I teach people how to teach people to teach English to foreign students.

Waking Suggs to make music to wake Suggs to (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 30 May 2011 18:47 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

Does anyone know anything about getting single subject teaching credentials (e.g. for high school, etc.). I know it varies by state.

Patrice Leclerc Delacroix Poussin (admrl), Friday, 8 July 2011 20:28 (twelve years ago) link

yes. you have to pass CBEST (in CA). You have to have a certain number of hours of student teaching. You can apply or look for some programs where you can actually get this credential while teaching at a private school, thereby still getting paid (because otherwise you don't get paid, and it makes it kind of hard to get a credential).

akm, Friday, 8 July 2011 22:32 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

I missed this, thanks kyle!

Anyway, I start teaching film production in 3 weeks. Who wants to get schooled?

Pizzataco Five (admrl), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 19:51 (twelve years ago) link

back to school tomorrow

just went to my classroom to hook up my laptop / PowerPoint and practice my first lecture to a giant, empty lecture hall

stoked!

the tune is space, Sunday, 28 August 2011 21:12 (twelve years ago) link

So guys, I didn't get hired this year. I'm too expensive ... 2 Masters and 3 years experience put me out of the running in my cash-strapped state, and as of tomorrow morning I am an unemployed elementary school teacher. I've signed up for sub lists, etc., but this is ... very very difficult, and I'm looking at a year with low and irregular cashflow,as well as a more difficult time getting hired next year. In all, I sent out roughly 100 applications, with custom cover letters and glowing references and ... not one of my references got called; I didn't get an interview between May and today. It really sucks, and I'm not really sure what to do with my life right now.

come back to the five and dime remy bean, (remy bean), Sunday, 28 August 2011 21:16 (twelve years ago) link

This won't make you feel any better, but once I got about five years into teaching (also elementary), and was high enough on my board's seniority list that I was never in danger of being excessed, my lack of any extra qualifications--no ESL, no special ed, no French--actually became an advantage in making sure I'd always have my own classroom. There's nowhere else to put me.

I spent a few years supplying/substituting before going full time, and then--and now--the sub work in my board is extremely steady. I think our subs draw probably 90% of a full year's salary, some more.

clemenza, Sunday, 28 August 2011 21:30 (twelve years ago) link

remy, that is so disheartening. ordinarily I wd just say come to Texas but even jobs here are hard to come by now (you are still welcome to come to Texas, tho, if u don't mind 109 deg heat right now.)

davon cuul II (m bison), Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:41 (twelve years ago) link

four months pass...

Teaching: we enlist for the opportunity to counsel and educate tomorrow's youth, but we stay for the extra-long vacations.

clemenza, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

had to sub a sixth grade health class
subject: body odor

apropos.

gnome rocognise gnome (remy bean), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link

awesome

La Lechera, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 20:25 (twelve years ago) link

how do you teach about body odor? what's the lesson like?

La Lechera, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 20:26 (twelve years ago) link

"Okay: everybody gather around Tommy's desk for a second."

clemenza, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 20:27 (twelve years ago) link

i did not have any prep time. So I talked extemporaneously about deodorant as a public service; we discussed the many implications of the phrase "your rights end where my nose begins" took a brief detour into the farts vs. pit odor discusison, and then talked about empathy, and how to pull somebody politely aside rather than publically call them out for stankiness.

gnome rocognise gnome (remy bean), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

Hello ILX.

I teach History, to 11-17 year olds in Northwest London.

Did do 2 years of TEFL in Barcelona.

I have plenty of body odour problems with my students routinely not showering but the worst thing is when students unilaterally decide to unload a bottle of deodorant in the room. But hey at least I don't have the problem of nits that my primary colleagues do.

Am off until Thursday!

danzig, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 20:49 (twelve years ago) link

can we keep teacher stuff on our 77 thread?
i plan on keeping anything personal on it at least

remy i'm curious what the discussion about noses and rights was like. feel free to bump the other thread though.

La Lechera, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 20:53 (twelve years ago) link

it's tuesday!

ah, how quaint (Matt P), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 18:30 (twelve years ago) link

Tell me about your attendance policies! Especially if you teach at a post-secondary level. This is my first time getting to make up my own and I have some ideas, but I would like to compare them to what other people have done to see if I'm way off base. Thanks!

gonna give her the old fuquay-varina (Jenny), Monday, 16 January 2012 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

I am loving teaching right now. I got a real thrill yesterday imparting some arcane, theoretically impractical (in real-world terms, anyway) tech knowledge to one of my students yesterday and seeing him start to dig the process. I only wish teaching paid more (like enough to pay my student loans!) and I would do more of it =(

love, light, and walkabout-thinking (admrl), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:32 (twelve years ago) link

i taught my students the following words today and it was very satisfying:

monotonous/monotony/monotone
mellifluous

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link

Did you kno that the "melli-" part is from the Latin word for "honey"?? A voice as sweet as honey!

I have some Mountain Flower Honey here on my desk and it's PRETTY SWEET.

drawn to them like a moth toward a spanakopita (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:00 (twelve years ago) link

I have laryngitis right now, and I had to teach yesterday entirely without my voice. Either in spite of, or because of, I taught a really amazing math lesson (on scale factor) and transformations using fake shrinky-dinks made from #6 plastic

a serious minestrone rockist (remy bean), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

"did you know"
Laurel, do you know me? Gah!

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:30 (twelve years ago) link

;)

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:30 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/05/science/new-test-for-computers-grading-essays-at-college-level.html?hp&_r=0

where are these clowns getting the 'keep resubmitting until you get it right' idea from?

j., Friday, 5 April 2013 02:35 (eleven years ago) link

also

Mark D. Shermis, a professor at the University of Akron in Ohio, supervised the Hewlett Foundation’s contest on automated essay scoring and wrote a paper about the experiment. In his view, the technology — though imperfect — has a place in educational settings.

With increasingly large classes, it is impossible for most teachers to give students meaningful feedback on writing assignments, he said. Plus, he noted, critics of the technology have tended to come from the nation’s best universities, where the level of pedagogy is much better than at most schools.

“Often they come from very prestigious institutions where, in fact, they do a much better job of providing feedback than a machine ever could,” Dr. Shermis said. “There seems to be a lack of appreciation of what is actually going on in the real world.”

= let's not kid ourselves southwest northern state u

j., Friday, 5 April 2013 02:40 (eleven years ago) link

e-boox watch students, report on them to teachers

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/09/technology/coursesmart-e-textbooks-track-students-progress-for-teachers.html?pagewanted=1&_r=4&hp&

“They caught me,” said Mr. Tejeda, 43. He has two jobs and three children, and can study only late at night. “Maybe I need to focus more,” he said.

j., Thursday, 11 April 2013 20:47 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/20/education/score-corrections-qualify-nearly-2700-more-pupils-for-gifted-programs.html?hp

The errors were discovered when two parents, one a statistician, complained that their children had been incorrectly scored, the department said.

According to Pearson, three mistakes were made. Students’ ages, which are used to calculate their percentile ranking against students of similar age, were recorded in years and months, but should also have counted days to be precise. Incorrect scoring tables were used. And the formula used to combine the two test parts into one percentile ranking contained an error.

Earlier this week, the department said that score reports for 400 students had been lost, but that those tests had been found and were being scored.

One parent, Rena M. Ismail, 36, who had been told that her 5-year-old son, Hyder, was not eligible for a gifted seat, said the department informed her that her son had scored in the 89th percentile, when, by her math, he was in the 91st.

“I knew he got it,” she said. “I could see it. They told me I was mistaken.

“I am an educated person. I know how to add and multiply, and I knew he got in by his score sheet.”

j., Saturday, 20 April 2013 02:58 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

http://www.citypages.com/2011-02-23/news/inside-the-multimillion-dollar-essay-scoring-business/full/

Then came the question from hell out of Louisiana: "What are the qualities of a good leader?"

One student wrote, "Martin Luther King Jr. was a good leader." With artfulness far beyond the student's age, the essay delved into King's history with the civil rights movement, pointing out the key moments that had shown his leadership.

There was just one problem: It didn't fit the rubric. The rubric liked a longer essay, with multiple sentences lauding key qualities of leadership such as "honesty" and "inspires people." This essay was incredibly concise, but got its point across. Nevertheless, the rubric said it was a 2. Puthoff knew it was a 2.

He hesitated the way he had been specifically trained not to. Then he hit, "3."

It didn't take long before a supervisor was in his face. He leaned down with a printout of the King essay.

"This really isn't a 3-style paper," the supervisor said.

Puthoff pointed out the smart use of examples and the exceptional prose. The supervisor just shook his head and pointed out how short the paragraphs were.

"You know, it's more of a 2," the supervisor repeated. "Not enough elaboration."

Puthoff quickly learned these were not arguments he could win. But as time went on, he found himself having more and more of them.

j., Sunday, 14 July 2013 07:57 (ten years ago) link

The great myth of rubrics as an objective panacea. They've been front and center in my board since I started 15 years ago--in the provincial marking I did for a few summers, in this thing that came in a few years ago called TCLP ("Teaching Critical Learning Pathways"--took me forever to stop accidentally calling it TLCP, after the "No Scrubs" group), in just about anything we come up with at the grade level (speeches, art assignments, etc.) They definitely make life easier--check, check, check, 3+, next--but the idea that you can eliminate the whims of subjectivity (setting aside whether you've even want to) is an illusion. From the linked article:

Although DiMaggio had been through a training process, he found himself tripped up as he began scoring the essays. What made the organization "good" as opposed to "excellent"? What happens when the kid doesn't answer the question at all, but writes with excellent organization about whatever the hell he wants?

And the people who do the training often have no idea either. I still remember a question on mean and median from one of the provincial tests--check that, assessments--I marked one summer. At first we were instructed that if the kid did everything right but had the two concepts backwards, that was an NE--not enough for a grade, essentially a zero. After 15 or 20 minutes of debate about this, word came back within the hour that such answers should be given a Level 2 (in the C-range). I guess you could say that's good, that they ultimately got it right, but I wonder instead about their original contention that such an answer deserved a zero.

What I generally do with a rubric is work backwards: go with my initial sense of what grade I want to give, then make the rubric fit the grade. I don't think where I end up is any more subjective than working in the other direction.

clemenza, Sunday, 14 July 2013 14:27 (ten years ago) link

otm. grading is the art of pretend objectivity.

THAT'S MY NAME, DON'T WEAR IT OUT! (m bison), Sunday, 14 July 2013 14:40 (ten years ago) link

this is not surprising at all
i have friends who do grading for TOEFL and IB essays and everyone acknowledges that it's a bit of a farce but also not a bad way to make some extra cash
i don't think it means that grading rubrics are useless, just that factory grading is flawed

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Sunday, 14 July 2013 14:53 (ten years ago) link

That's actually why I stopped doing the provincial marking: for the first few summers, there was lots of really valuable discussion every step of the way ("Is this a low 3 or a high 2? Why?"), which went on for as long as necessary, but gradually that gave way to no discussion, here's the rubric, now mark x number of booklets in y amount of time or you won't be invited back.

I don't know, LL--the main value I see in rubrics is from the teacher's point of view, that they make it easy to mark a class set of something very quickly. I don't know how much students get out of them. They're supposed to clarify for the student why a certain grade was given--look at the categories, look at the criteria--but if I try to write thoughtful commentary to go along with my grade (which takes time, which is why they can be useful as a teacher), to me that's just as good.

clemenza, Sunday, 14 July 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link

Actually, I realize they're supposed to be prescriptive, too: here are the expectations for the assignment, here's how the grade will match up with how well you meet those expectations. But I think I do that anyway when I make up an assignment sheet: here's what I'm looking for, and there'll be (for example) 12 marks for your information, 5 marks for the quality of your writing, and 3 marks for neatness and overall presentation. I think that plus relevant commentary when you mark the assignment works just as well.

clemenza, Sunday, 14 July 2013 15:35 (ten years ago) link

i'm not gonna sit around on a sunday morning debating the utility of rubrics, but i find them useful for more than just speed and ease. just as one little example, my students sometimes also like to use them as a checklist to make sure they're paying attention to the assignment and have done what they need to do in order to succeed on the assignment. assignment sheets help, but they need to see it in several different places/ways sometimes. the usefulness of a rubric really depends on a wide array of very different factors, many of which don't really apply to the situation being described in the mass standardized grading above.

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Sunday, 14 July 2013 15:38 (ten years ago) link

I'm positive the Velvet Underground's "Sunday Morning" was all about debating the utility of rubrics. No other time makes as much sense.

clemenza, Sunday, 14 July 2013 15:42 (ten years ago) link

ILXteachers: i'm hoping one of you can help me out -

my friend and her partner are thinking about moving to california from NZ, and i'm trying to find info on how teaching jobs work for foreigners. she is just finishing up her teaching degree this year, so she has never actually worked as a teacher. my amateur google skills didn't turn up much info, so if anyone has a useful link or two, i'd greatly appreciate it (i REALLY REALLY want my friend to move here).

just1n3, Friday, 19 July 2013 20:28 (ten years ago) link

what part of california? a lot of districts aren't hiring right now because of the state budget crisis.

here's the best link for finding public school teaching positions: http://www.edjoin.org/advancedSearch.aspx

i'm not sure her teaching credential would have reciprocity in california. but supposing it did, here's how she could parlay that into a california teaching credential.

http://www.ctc.ca.gov/credentials/leaflets/cl870.pdf

the late great, Friday, 19 July 2013 21:07 (ten years ago) link

thanks! i think they are looking at LA, but i don't know how soon it would happen - it all depends on her partner's job situation. in fact, i think there is only a slim chance that she will be able to even get a work visa for herself, but i still want to track down info for her.

just1n3, Friday, 19 July 2013 21:50 (ten years ago) link

ILXteachers: i'm hoping one of you can help me out -

my friend and her partner are thinking about moving to california from NZ, and i'm trying to find info on how teaching jobs work for foreigners. she is just finishing up her teaching degree this year, so she has never actually worked as a teacher. my amateur google skills didn't turn up much info, so if anyone has a useful link or two, i'd greatly appreciate it (i REALLY REALLY want my friend to move here).

― just1n3, Friday, July 19, 2013 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink


Will she be here on a visa? If so, she can look into the J-1 visa, if she's not already aware of it. I hear it's quite common amongst teachers.

http://j1visa.state.gov/

Best of luck to both of them!

c21m50nh3x460n, Friday, 19 July 2013 21:51 (ten years ago) link

This is the teacher programme: http://j1visa.state.gov/programs/teacher

c21m50nh3x460n, Friday, 19 July 2013 21:53 (ten years ago) link

a j1 visa is how i got here! and that was 5 years ago... actually, it hadn't occurred to me to get her looking at that, i was focused on how she would get a work visa as part of a couple since her partner will get job sponsorship, i think.

just1n3, Friday, 19 July 2013 21:56 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-OLldU8Vi8

it's an education, anyway

bentelec, Monday, 26 August 2013 22:20 (ten years ago) link

so tired

shiny trippy people holding bandz (m bison), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 00:25 (ten years ago) link

Back at it tomorrow. As I'm standing outside trying to round up kids in my class, thinking of asking each one of them "Are you going to bust my chops this year?" before entering the school. If they can't answer no to that question, I don't want 'em.

clemenza, Monday, 2 September 2013 21:10 (ten years ago) link

What if they say, "No, I was thining of busting your nads instead."

Aimless, Monday, 2 September 2013 21:12 (ten years ago) link

Both expressions turn up in Scorsese films (slightly different rendering of the second)--I went with the milder. If that is their comeback, I'm going to assume they've seen Goodfellas, and then it's "Welcome aboard!"

clemenza, Monday, 2 September 2013 21:21 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

I'm positive the Velvet Underground's "Sunday Morning" was all about debating the utility of rubrics. No other time makes as much sense.

This is brilliant.

Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 03:50 (ten years ago) link

Parent interviews tonight (and tomorrow). I've been doing these for 15 years--the tank's empty, nothing left to say. A teacher and I were saying it'd be fun, one year, just to take out the report cards and read from them word-for-word for the entire interview. Or to at least respond to every question in report card-ese:

Parent: "How are you tonight?"
Me: "With some assistance, I am doing fine."
Parent: "Where should I sit?:
Me: "You are encouraged to sit there."
Parent: "So--any hope for my child?"
Me: "You consistently demonstrate an ability to ask exactly the right questions."

clemenza, Friday, 8 November 2013 03:03 (ten years ago) link

our father came home from one of these one time and said to my sister, "your teacher said you don't even have the brain capacity of a gnat but i defended you and said that you do."

estela, Friday, 8 November 2013 03:11 (ten years ago) link

I'm goofing around, and not referring to any particular student. If your sister's teacher actually did say that, that's amazing--you'd be out of a job today!

clemenza, Friday, 8 November 2013 03:15 (ten years ago) link

Australia != Canada, Phil.

Blecch Dreieinigkeitsmoses (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 November 2013 03:21 (ten years ago) link

(Sorry)

Blecch Dreieinigkeitsmoses (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 November 2013 03:25 (ten years ago) link

new zealand != australia, james redd and the blecchs.

estela, Friday, 8 November 2013 03:38 (ten years ago) link

Knew that was coming.

Blecch Dreieinigkeitsmoses (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 November 2013 03:48 (ten years ago) link

new zealand is australia's canada tho

buzza, Friday, 8 November 2013 03:49 (ten years ago) link

A rolling thread in which we are incompetent geography teachers

Blecch Dreieinigkeitsmoses (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 November 2013 03:50 (ten years ago) link

we won't fret about any of this.

estela, Friday, 8 November 2013 06:02 (ten years ago) link

No, wouldn't want to let a little thing like this come between me and my favorite far-flung posters.

The Killer Inside Meme (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 November 2013 15:51 (ten years ago) link

http://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2013/11/when-parents-yank-their-kids-out-of-standardized-tests/281417/

Teachers at Seattle’s Garfield High School voted unanimously earlier this year not to give the district’s required reading and math test. They encountered predictable resistance from district officials and harsh criticism from outside observers. Many students and parents, however, sided with the teachers.

The PTA and student government leaders voted in support of the teachers, and many parents sent in “opt-out” letters to exempt their children from testing that they viewed as an inappropriate measure of teachers’ effectiveness. And so when administrators came to class with lists of kids who needed to take the tests during the spring testing period, many students were exempted and others students simply refused to go with the administrators.

bonkers

j., Friday, 15 November 2013 02:13 (ten years ago) link

jess hagopian is doing the lord's work

shiny trippy people holding bandz (m bison), Friday, 15 November 2013 02:14 (ten years ago) link

now i just wanna opt out of all kinds of stuff

j., Friday, 15 November 2013 02:18 (ten years ago) link

or get my mom and dad to do it on my behalf

j., Friday, 15 November 2013 02:18 (ten years ago) link

http://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2013/11/great-teachers-dont-always-want-to-become-principals/281483/

just realizing recently that everyone around me with power over my employed life, for the rest of my career, is likely to be a questionable teacher or someone with fantasies of administering control, i.e. an administrator : /

j., Monday, 18 November 2013 15:37 (ten years ago) link

that is one of the scariest moments, agree
also why i will not be pushed any further in that direction
it's where creativity and enjoyable human interaction goes to die

sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 18 November 2013 15:40 (ten years ago) link

i still wanna be an administrator at some point tho if i ever just become a full time journalism teacher, prob not

shiny trippy people holding bandz (m bison), Tuesday, 19 November 2013 02:39 (ten years ago) link

http://www.fastcompany.com/3021473/udacity-sebastian-thrun-uphill-climb

"We were on the front pages of newspapers and magazines, and at the same time, I was realizing, we don't educate people as others wished, or as I wished. We have a lousy product," Thrun tells me. "It was a painful moment."

suck it, barbarians

j., Thursday, 21 November 2013 12:27 (ten years ago) link

haha, my first thought was "eat it, losers"

sweat pea (La Lechera), Thursday, 21 November 2013 14:06 (ten years ago) link

the folx at work imply that if i am gonna wanna be on their good side i am gonna wanna learn about adminispeak pedagogical techniques and prove that i can use them :/

'statistics show' that i should, apparently

j., Wednesday, 27 November 2013 22:44 (ten years ago) link

ugh instructional design

how can a field full of educated people who educate others be so submerged in idiocy and sloganeering

j., Monday, 2 December 2013 18:25 (ten years ago) link

ambition

sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 2 December 2013 18:25 (ten years ago) link

these people need copies of orwell's 'politics and the english language' in their faculty mailboxes

or someone needs to force them to do a beckett and write everything in a second language so that they're denied every single little encrustation of verbiage whenever they want to express their thoughts

j., Monday, 2 December 2013 18:37 (ten years ago) link

i have so many things to say but i am not going to 1) type them all out or 2) do so here.
but yeah, try doing all this in a different language and then get back to me with some hella jargony bs

sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 2 December 2013 18:40 (ten years ago) link

hey i'm not saying it's not an impossible task, i'm just saying, goddamn

j., Monday, 2 December 2013 18:49 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...
two weeks pass...

http://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2014/01/theres-a-cheaper-more-effective-way-to-train-teachers/282778/

it often seems to me like this kind of model—apprenticeship under good and experienced teachers—is obviously right, even for higher ed. (where that could conceivably be more like the european model, save for the fact that that's often a matter of research-lead-and-subordinates as much as it is master-teacher-and-apprentice?), but when i think about the teachers i've had, i would only be willing to be apprenticed to a handful of them from the entirety of my educational career. it seems like maybe at all levels we have an allergy to requiring people to be under the authority of others, especially outside of institutional settings where people are temporarily, formally subordinate to others (i.e. schools)?

j., Friday, 3 January 2014 22:08 (ten years ago) link

-1 the Atlantic

I'm in a program like this, but the mentor teachers are all hand-picked for not being pedagogically conservative buttholes. Although they are pedagogically conservative in some ways, their employer, who runs my program, gives them a pass for not fulfilling the butthole part and for having some teaching chops. They also have to have at least ten years experience.

If I follow you correctly, you're right that they'd run into a lot of buttholes-without-chops if a program like this was expanded to include every new teacher. Or maybe you're just saying that students would bristle at being under someone's authority, in which case, it's nice of you to consider them. My program director is also working at the state level (California) to try to change credential testing to make it more "authentic." She helped implement PACT, which consists of 2 unedited 10 minute clips of the student/intern teacher teaching and a thesis-length analysis and explication.

I think the number 1 most effective school reform would be an emphasis on goodman/glasser/kohn-style student and teacher autonomy. From the teacher side, you can't really police what a teacher thinks or says or does in a classroom, and when you try you get, e.g., the anti-teacher, anti-union standards movement, which has cost a lot of money and has accelerated the bean counter philosophies of school and district management, but has arguably (not arguably) made American schools worse. So you can't very effectively (and without repurcussions) tell a teacher what to do or who to be, but a new teacher participating in a schoolwide democracy, in which consensus and consent are foregrounded elements of the occupation, and in which the administrative mandarins take a backseat in directing school function and policy, is a new teacher who will learn to be a school leader, to be better educated about state and district policy and law, and to be more conscientious about their curriculum and planning. A lot of traditional schools with revolving door administrations already have crippled versions of this model in place, because the schools would die if the teachers didn't assume, of no one else's volition but their own, leadership roles. These schools would do much better to just restructure and forget about hiring that principal or vice principal or "guidance counsellor."

bamcquern, Saturday, 4 January 2014 01:22 (ten years ago) link

i don't think it's just being nice! i seriously question how much someone doing that job can be told what to do or who to be, even to the extent of taking guidance from a 'master' / mentor for a limited period of time. i know that it HAS been done, that arrangements like that are not unheard of (thinking of old-timey disciplinarian schoolmarms or whatever, to dig that far back?), but it literally just perplexes me. something about the idea of one person who is supposed to enjoy/exercise some degree of authority visibly/tangibly being directed by a superior exercising their own authority, same place same time, gets something wrong about the work that's being done. (i suppose that is why this program gets pitched primarily as 'observation', 'helping' etc.?)

once in graduate school i happened to have (this was in no way the norm, for obvious reasons) a fellow graduate student as a t.a., for one of my first classes of my own in fact, and one day i heard her sitting in with some students engaged in group discussion, and the stuff she was saying made me just want to stop and say SHUT UP, DON'T RUIN THEM WITH YOUR MEDIOCRITY, but of course i couldn't quite do that so i just tried to leave her with few responsibilities so that she would disengage from the class for the remainder of the semester instead of trying to chip in. (now, with less of a need for control over all the aspects of the course, i could handle that better, but even late on i had a nightmare of a t.a. who i just had to cross my fingers would not ruin her students' chances of getting anything out of the class.)

'let me teach you how to teach someone else' kind of leaps over the fact that you're the one who has to do it, in the end. and in some way which is not exactly the same as say with a surgeon, 'let me teach you how to perform this procedure'. or 'explain thing x to someone else the way -I- tell you to explain it', which is a little closer maybe. with certain things, you can tolerate the requirement that your own explanation essentially repeats one you were given / told to give. but when the requirement bears on your own manner of giving the explanation / relating to others?

j., Saturday, 4 January 2014 01:41 (ten years ago) link

I agree with you. I meant it's nice of you to think of them because no one else will, because they're students, and nobody cares about students, even if they're adults. I see you're addressing it from a much more practical point of view, though.

You're perfectly describing one of the key motivations for decentralizing schools! Structural changes will always trump reforms that emphasize behavior.

bamcquern, Saturday, 4 January 2014 01:54 (ten years ago) link

'but how can we make improvements if we don't tell people what to do and then look to see if they did it?!'

j., Saturday, 4 January 2014 01:57 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://dianeravitch.net/2014/01/22/north-carolina-greatest-insult-to-teachers-ever-cooked-up-in-backroom/

“The NC 60/30/10 Plan, which “embraces high teacher turnover,” would place teachers on one of three tracks: Apprentice, Master or Career.

“Sixty percent of all North Carolinian teachers would make $32,000/year in the Apprentice category and be allowed to teach for up to twenty years, at which time they must retire or move on to another industry.

“Thirty percent of teachers would be eligible for the Master category if they have been teaching for three years, have completed an online training program, and can demonstrate mastery of the teaching method based on “customer survey data.” Master teachers would earn $52,000/year.

“Ten percent of teachers would become Career teachers, making $72,000 if they have an advanced degree and can innovate and lead.

“All teachers would be able to serve in North Carolina for no more than 20 years. If the plan were to be adopted, all teachers in North Carolina would be required to reapply for their jobs in 2015.

wau

j., Sunday, 26 January 2014 17:44 (ten years ago) link

i guess the tool hawking the plan has since said they are backing off the most bonkers part, the 20-year limit for 'apprentices'

though now that i look more closely, the 'masters' aren't just more highly trained, they're trained in 'the teaching method based on "customer survey data"', surely one of the cornerstones of any solid customer-teacher relationship

j., Sunday, 26 January 2014 17:50 (ten years ago) link

fuck corporate ed reform forever

rhyme heals all goons (m bison), Sunday, 26 January 2014 18:35 (ten years ago) link

this is disgusting

mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Sunday, 26 January 2014 19:05 (ten years ago) link

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25906736

UK Government allegedly briefs against the schools inspection body, partly for the right reasons but largely for the wrong reasons:

...the wish for schools to develop their own approaches to teaching was being held back by child-first orthodoxies among inspectors...
(!!!),
...who were stifling innovation

I would not disagree that Ofsted stifles innovation, not least because teachers have little time to really plan because they're too busy shuffling paperwork and fabricating Ofsted-pleasing frameworks.

ljubljana, Sunday, 26 January 2014 19:26 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

hiya, if you are or know of a good maths teacher in london (up to a-level) who's in the market for a part-time role in a good school, do get in touch with me!

lex pretend, Thursday, 13 February 2014 15:35 (ten years ago) link

This seems like the place to share my series of recent essays and how-to notes on authority, classroom management, and the Law of the Jungle. I wrote this for myself, while in grad school and while subbing, but wonder if it could help others too. I'm really interested in people's experiences with any of the phenomena described, and your reactions to anything below.

Main essays/outlines on Fred Jones (on "say, see, do" teaching, preferred activity time, "meaning business," Alfie Kohn, cooperative learning, and more):
Instruction.
Motivation.
Discipline.

Offshoot essays:
John Taylor Gatto's 'Dumbing Us Down.'
Why classrooms aren't communities.
School and the Law of the Jungle.
Teaching or violence.
John Locke, A.S. Neill, and authority revisited.

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 15:33 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

i've read some of those, pete, but it's a lot to take in and pitched way below my student level, so i might need a think on it.

meanwhile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAy3vJn4pbs

j., Wednesday, 5 March 2014 02:55 (ten years ago) link

http://www.forbes.com/sites/carolinehoward/2014/02/12/no-college-left-behind-randy-bests-money-making-mission-to-save-higher-education/2/

on the illiterate businessman whose company 'academic partnerships' is raking it in helping businesses and schools convert to online course delivery

j., Monday, 17 March 2014 12:10 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://spartandaily.com/119401/online-proctoring-raises-privacy-concerns

sure, no big, we'll just be watching you through your own camera while you pay $20 to take this test

well, watching you and half a dozen other test-takers, night-watchman style

j., Wednesday, 9 April 2014 02:24 (ten years ago) link

yeesh

Nguyen said he is also concerned with the type of personal information he was asked to provide to ProctorU.

In addition to showing the remote proctor his driver's license and entering in his student ID number, Nguyen said he was asked to answer four personal questions about himself.

One was to pick a family member's name out of a list of names.

Nguyen said that his uncle's name was on the list, although he isn't sure how they had his name since he's never willingly shared that information in a public context.

The questions, Hayes said, are a security measure that is also employed by some credit card and insurance companies.

He said all of the information is compiled from public records and databases by Acxiom, a data-brokering company.

"We're looking for something that you are, something that you have and something that you know," Hayes said, explaining the comprehensive verification process.

j., Wednesday, 9 April 2014 02:26 (ten years ago) link

fuck ed tech in whatever orifice is convenient at the time

smooth hymnal (m bison), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 02:27 (ten years ago) link

there are no orifices, they are remotely located and you receive updates about them in an app on your phone, which does not work

j., Wednesday, 9 April 2014 02:29 (ten years ago) link

the worst
ugh
so gross!

Mayor Manuel (La Lechera), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 02:36 (ten years ago) link

cool i will just give this ed tech to my students
*it is broken within a week*
welp
*prepares paper lessons*

smooth hymnal (m bison), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 02:38 (ten years ago) link

i spoke up against educational products during our HLC visit this week
feel good about that

Mayor Manuel (La Lechera), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 02:38 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

been following this dude

https://twitter.com/Beaker_Ben

who is a regular from one of those college instructor griping blogs

and he has made a habit of retweeting students tweeting about their teachers

good GOD are they vituperative and abusive about the most innocuous things when they're doing it in a public backchannel

j., Friday, 25 April 2014 02:00 (nine years ago) link

best to avoid shit like that
you can't even start to think about it

also are you an old ilxor with a new name?

Mayor Manuel (La Lechera), Friday, 25 April 2014 03:50 (nine years ago) link

nope, same one my mother gave me

j., Friday, 25 April 2014 04:29 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

This story is really bizarre. Teacher jail!

http://www.thenation.com/article/179605/where-shame-policy-inside-las-teacher-jail

polyphonic, Monday, 12 May 2014 20:24 (nine years ago) link

http://www.geoffshullenberger.com/archives/269

against 'adaptive learning' platforms

j., Wednesday, 21 May 2014 18:38 (nine years ago) link

That Nation story is both crazy and sad: “They want to dehumanize the profession as a whole, because if you can bring this profession down, if you can make people lose trust in this profession, then you can do anything.”

Peter Scholtes, Thursday, 22 May 2014 17:22 (nine years ago) link

four months pass...

http://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2014/10/does-england-have-the-solution-to-the-grade-inflation-problem/381571/

The U.K. is not immune to disputes about grade inflation. But it’s telling that the most common grade by far is still a second, not a first. When employers all accept that a second-class degree already provides a stamp of quality, it removes the narcissism inherent in minor differences. There are also fewer incentives for professors to assign higher grades if students recognize that the majority of them will receive the same mark. And sticking to four grades hasn’t harmed the UK’s stellar standings in global university league tables.

This approach might be called the Goldilocks principle of grading. It suggests that students, teachers, and employers can all find their way in a system where grades are not too high and not too low, but just right. And that might mean the majority of students get exactly the same grade.

it's called a C, people

j., Tuesday, 21 October 2014 00:54 (nine years ago) link

Ban grading aside from pass fail

owe me the shmoney (m bison), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 01:09 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

http://curmudgucation.blogspot.com/2014/12/pearsons-renaissance-1-history-and.html

this crank's anti-corporate-reform-gobbledygook blog makes me happy

j., Tuesday, 16 December 2014 20:50 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Odd German film from a few years ago--looks and feels more like a television show than a movie--but very good in terms of what it's like to face the reality of class control when you're starting out (not that that issue ever really goes away):

http://www.filmmovement.com/downloads/photos/Forestfortrees_hi.jpg

The teacher's personal life belongs in a Fassbinder film.

clemenza, Sunday, 4 January 2015 17:18 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

The black hole/Bermuda Triangle of elementary teaching: marking a class set of stories. Some never make it back.

I'm halfway through one about a new gaming console that does everything from waking you up in the morning to getting you something to drink:

"Ahh now that is one tasty glass of lemonade" said Jake relaxed.

Pulp Fiction reference, I'm pretty sure.

clemenza, Sunday, 8 March 2015 20:49 (nine years ago) link

three months pass...

I like marking math.
I don't mind marking art.
As noted above, I hate marking anything with words.

clemenza, Monday, 8 June 2015 17:29 (eight years ago) link

the wordst

j., Monday, 8 June 2015 17:30 (eight years ago) link

I love this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fn_vAhu_Lw

clemenza, Monday, 8 June 2015 17:34 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

http://wishtv.com/2015/07/12/indiana-schools-report-shortage-of-teacher-applications/

School districts across Indiana are having trouble finding people to fill open teaching positions amid a nearly 90 percent drop in the number of teacher licenses issued by the state.

The Indiana Department of Education says the state issued about 7,500 teaching licenses for the 2007-2008 school year. WTHI reports that number fell to 934 for the 2013-14 school year.

Licenses for teachers with at least 10 years of experience fell from 333 to 4 in the same period.

yeesh

j., Sunday, 12 July 2015 14:13 (eight years ago) link

Wow--I'll know where to direct all the underemployed supply/graduating teachers here. It's really hard just to get on my board's supply list (i.e., substitute, if you're American--I remember an American friend once thinking we hired teachers to man the supply cupboards).

clemenza, Sunday, 12 July 2015 19:43 (eight years ago) link

that's a key position tho

j., Sunday, 12 July 2015 22:39 (eight years ago) link

If you don't have the key, you'll never be able to open the cupboard, so yes.

clemenza, Sunday, 12 July 2015 23:33 (eight years ago) link

the hell's going on in indiana?

not a garbageman, i am garbage, man (m bison), Monday, 13 July 2015 02:42 (eight years ago) link

Let’s say, hypothetically, that the charter-union movement starts picking up steam. Is there any chance that Wall Street, which has been a massive supporter of charters, will abandon it because of their views on unions?

Yes, I think that’s definitely a possibility. That’s something that various union people said to me. Jesse Sharky, from the Chicago Teacher’s Union, said that right, there’s a lot of businesspeople and entrepreneurs who are very interested in the charter school sector, and if that sector became more heavily unionized, it’s not so clear that suddenly it would be such an interesting or intriguing investment for them to make.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 19:33 (eight years ago) link

at a top-tier university, how many pages can you expect undergraduates (these days) to be able to read per week? i am composing a syllabus from scratch for the first time in a very long time and im realizing i have no idea what's a reasonable expectation on my part.

ryan, Saturday, 25 July 2015 04:33 (eight years ago) link

1000

j., Saturday, 25 July 2015 04:35 (eight years ago) link

ha there's an undergraduate class at my institution that's gonna be reading the entirety of A Remembrance of Things Past. i wonder how that's gonna go.

ryan, Saturday, 25 July 2015 04:39 (eight years ago) link

^i did that as an undergrad (though can't remember if it was grad course) & it was one of my fave courses ever

drash, Saturday, 25 July 2015 04:56 (eight years ago) link

can't remember if it was 2 semesters or one (prob 2)

drash, Saturday, 25 July 2015 04:59 (eight years ago) link

god years of grad school is like river of lethe

drash, Saturday, 25 July 2015 05:33 (eight years ago) link

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/634624c6-312b-11e5-91ac-a5e17d9b4cff.html#slide0

Student monitoring service Skyfactor, which is sold in the US and used by 130 universities there, advertises itself as a risk management service, promising to help academics “quickly see which students need attention and resources now — before it’s too late”. Course tutors are given access to a dashboard that documents each student’s class attendances, assessment grades, participation in sports practices, and visits to the campus financial aid officer. A door icon placed next to each name, either closed or open, signals the program’s prediction of how likely the student is to leave the institution early. If their high grades drop, or their passion for basketball begins to wane, Skyfactor will flag these individuals in red.

David McNally, chief technology officer at Macmillan Science and Education, which owns Skyfactor, says the early warning mechanism is beneficial for all involved. “In the US more than the UK . . . losing a student is a very expensive loss to an institution because they pay high annual fees,” he says. “If you can get to a student before they drop out, you can keep them in the institution.”

When asked about privacy implications, McNally says his company — a competitor to Pearson, current owner of the Financial Times — is “extremely serious” about abiding by both US and UK data security laws. He adds that the information is “being used for the greater good, which is better education for everybody”. He insists it is not only students being tracked: the same programs that measure their performance are being used to compare how effective their tutors are and how well one school is teaching its pupils compared with another. In the future, it will be possible to compare entire local education authorities.

j., Saturday, 25 July 2015 15:35 (eight years ago) link

That's pretty creepy. We do data analysis with stuff like Revel - interactive digital textbooks that allow tutors to monitor reading and have micro-assessments that enable changes in performance to be tracked over time, and it's pretty common to have centralised systems for attendance / grades, but i don't think we would ever want to monitor extracurricular activities or "visits to the campus financial aid office".

I wear my Redditor loathing with pride (ShariVari), Saturday, 25 July 2015 15:43 (eight years ago) link

it has 'sky—' right in the name

i mean cmon

j., Saturday, 25 July 2015 16:00 (eight years ago) link

units of alcohol served on student card, nights spent not in own bed, pages read per week

gawker's psychotic monkeys (imago), Saturday, 25 July 2015 16:03 (eight years ago) link

good lord

http://curmudgucation.blogspot.com/2015/08/the-human-proof-classroom.html

http://edushyster.com/i-am-not-tom-brady/

is this even like

real? how could ppl???

j., Thursday, 6 August 2015 13:53 (eight years ago) link

five months pass...

One of my best and weirdest moments ever as a teacher at dismissal today. A former grade 6 student of mine, now in 8, came up and asked me what my five favourite films are. Interesting student, related to a Nobel Prize winner in literature--he seems to be just getting into movies, and he'll occasionally drop around to tell me about something he's just seen. Anyway, I rattled off a quick list of the usual suspects, then asked him what his were. His list: 1. Pulp Fiction, 2. Zodiac, 3. The Shining, 4. There Will Be Blood, 5. Taxi Driver. Remember, this a kid who's 13 or 14. Allowing that there was probably a small element of him wanting to impress me, it was extremely gratifying, even though I had to go through the motions of doing the teacher thing: "M_______! What are you doing watching these films--these are not for someone your age. You've got to stop watching stuff like this immediately...warning, warning...blah blah blah...isn't Zodiac amazing?" I'm taking 15% of the credit/blame here.

clemenza, Thursday, 14 January 2016 22:10 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

Going back to grade 3 next year after 15+ years of 6/7. (I asked for 4--pretty close.) No more "Smells Like Teen Spirit," Warhol, Godard, Kent State, or Republican debate clips. Well, I can probably keep going with the latter--they'll understand.

clemenza, Friday, 26 February 2016 12:44 (eight years ago) link

i teach 6th grade, i'd love to hear what from godard you were showing to students!

intheblanks, Friday, 26 February 2016 19:27 (eight years ago) link

Every year on his birthday, I'd show a clip--usually the five minutes from 2 or 3 things with the coffee cup, some years the dance from Band of Outsiders.

clemenza, Friday, 26 February 2016 23:34 (eight years ago) link

Cool, thanks

intheblanks, Sunday, 28 February 2016 17:38 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

I mentioned an ex-student of mine a few posts back, how excited I was that he coming up to me all the time to talk about the Scorsese, Kubrick, and similar films he’d been watching. He joined the film club we run, worked away on something at home for the past couple of months, and we watched his finished film today (hadn’t seen any of it before today). Fantastic! It’s called A Trek Through the Cold Wilderness, and he’s going to enter it in the experimental category for our board competition. The film’s exactly as advertised, about five minutes’ worth (he told me how much he’d liked The Revenant, and I’m guessing that’s the guiding influence), with an operatic score and lots of great Cinemascope-like shots of snow and fields and trees. You can take it straight-up, and just watch it as a really impressive piece of work for a kid his age; it’s also a pretty good comp for an SCTV parody of a Bergman or (if they were around today) a Béla Tarr film. We were just killing ourselves watching it.

clemenza, Thursday, 7 April 2016 21:39 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

We fought the law, we won.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-teachers-ruling-1.3545989

clemenza, Saturday, 23 April 2016 04:38 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Took 30 students to my board's film festival today. Exciting seeing two of our films on a big Cineplex screen. The funniest thing was one that started like a horror film, leading to a character getting a phone call from her future self: "Donald Trump is president," followed by 10 seconds of first-rate screaming.

Found this very encouraging: out of the 30 films we saw (ranging from grade 3 to grade 8), two of them--one very specifically, one more symbolically--amounted to "Put the fucking device away and open your eyes."

clemenza, Thursday, 19 May 2016 00:27 (seven years ago) link

(Probably filmed with iPhones, but it's a start.)

clemenza, Thursday, 19 May 2016 00:31 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

chicago teacher among the 1000 fired recently:

http://www.progressive.org/pss/official-phone-call-don%E2%80%99t-tell-me-it%E2%80%99ll-be-fine#st_refDomain=www.facebook.com&st_refQuery=

j., Wednesday, 10 August 2016 02:50 (seven years ago) link

xian is one of my teacher heroes. he's v active on twitter and with the educolor group.

6 god none the richer (m bison), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 02:58 (seven years ago) link

nine months pass...

I call parents so infrequently--usually only when some piece of work is egregiously overdue--that when I do, like right now, the conversation generally begins, "Hi, it's Mr. D_______...Johnny's teacher...Right, right--we met last October."

clemenza, Monday, 5 June 2017 23:25 (six years ago) link

ha, i teach mostly seniors and i think i made one phone call home this year, it was bad

nice cage (m bison), Monday, 5 June 2017 23:48 (six years ago) link

should say ENTIRELY seniors now

nice cage (m bison), Monday, 5 June 2017 23:48 (six years ago) link

I assume you're speaking to the seniors themselves, not their parents...

clemenza, Monday, 5 June 2017 23:50 (six years ago) link

He means 17 year olds

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 00:00 (six years ago) link

Yeah yeah, I talk to them all the time. I am VERY popular *pops gum*

nice cage (m bison), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 00:24 (six years ago) link

eight months pass...

Only job in the world where 7 cm of snow can make the whole day a nightmare, but 8, like today, is pure bliss.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 13:16 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

One of my boys today was distraught because he couldn't find his yogurt. Boy across from him: "Maybe it's in your pencil case, J_______." Opens pencil case. "It is in your pencil case--I found it!"

Destined to be either the world's most ingenious detective or most inept criminal.

clemenza, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 21:17 (six years ago) link

Was it a gogurt? How does a yogurt fit in a pencil case? Poured into the bottom?

rb (soda), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 22:00 (six years ago) link

I am starting my first big PBL in a few days. Kind of intimidating!

rb (soda), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 22:01 (six years ago) link

good luck ... YOU’LL NEED IT!!

the late great, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 22:06 (six years ago) link

j/k you’ll be fine

its just i worked at a 100% PBL school for four years and still have PTSD when i see the letters

the late great, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 22:07 (six years ago) link

I’m toeing the dread/anticipate line.

I do a lot of project-based work already, but I keep it pretty buttoned-up and teacher-structured. This new unit is interdisciplinary, month-long, standards based, and requires ~10 different types of student roles. The outcome is more conceptual, and I have NO idea what it’ll be like.

rb (soda), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 22:11 (six years ago) link

doing new stuff is fun. i am teaching a music appreciation course this semester and, aside from the textbook, have built all my materials and assignments from scratch. it's a lot of extra work but i am really enjoying it. learning a lot too!

it's tempting to wish for a rut in which to relax
i figure that is what summer is for

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 22:15 (six years ago) link

also it's really only brutal the first time
the next time, at least the framework is there

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 22:16 (six years ago) link

Was it a gogurt? How does a yogurt fit in a pencil case?

A gogurt, yeah--I didn't realize they had a different name.

http://www.generalmillscf.com/~/media/images/product/product-detail/yogurt/yoplait-portable/42163000-yoplait-simply-go-gurt.ashx

clemenza, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 23:31 (six years ago) link

I'd never heard the term "PBL" before--figured that must mean project-based-learning from the subsequent posts. We call it "inquiry" up here. If the movement is 100% in that direction, that's one more reason I'm ecstatic I'm done next year.

clemenza, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 23:34 (six years ago) link

It is very much in that direction. In theory it is great. In practice, it's been ... bumpy.

x-post to LL: I have always had to make all of my materials from scratch. It's not by choice, though. My district requires expects extensive personalization/adaptation of all curriculum, and my colleagues are sometimes pretty protective of their materials. Or, their materials are freely shared much more lecture-y than my wont. In short, I've never found resources that are differentiated enough for the classroom I run. In one room I teach G&T, gen-ed, and special-ed inclusion, and most prepared materials have (at best) an "extension question" or a hokey graphic-organizer as supplmental to the orthodox design. Out of 20-25 students, I usually have, say, six to eight different variations running at a time, and at least a few ELLs. I'd say that in an average year I've had to create ~ 300+ pages of new documents. It's exhausting, and I truly don't think non-teachers have any idea of how much work goes into my prep.

This year, though, I started teaching two subjects and the prep got overwhelming. My supervisors have been good and they've been steering me to use lots of materials from tolerance.org, Smithsonian, commonlit, and the Choices program (out of Brown University). There's some great stuff out there, but I would LOOOOVE if somebody had a year-map for my content area(s) so that I didn't have to sequence day-by-day, week-by-week, and semester-by-semester. I used to adore creating new content/new units, but at this point it would be a delight to go back to previous material.

rb (soda), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 23:51 (six years ago) link

That's something I've always been terrible at (or just plain lazy): differentiation. I do it to a certain extant, but a lot of times it's just "You do this, and you that too, but less of it." (Also, ditto--good luck.)

clemenza, Thursday, 22 February 2018 00:05 (six years ago) link

I'd say that in an average year I've had to create ~ 300+ pages of new documents. It's exhausting, and I truly don't think non-teachers have any idea of how much work goes into my prep.

this is horrifying
300 pages?! every semester?! that can't be helping you deliver individualized instruction.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 22 February 2018 13:47 (six years ago) link

i have the same issue

the late great, Thursday, 22 February 2018 18:22 (six years ago) link

i spend so much fucking time making worksheets its ridiculous

it's my fault for always working at charter schools that implement cost-cutting measures like ... not buying curriculum

the late great, Thursday, 22 February 2018 18:22 (six years ago) link

it's one thing to do it once -- why would you have to do that every semester, or even every year? what is the administration's rationale for requiring this?

i make changes to my materials all the time, but i don't make 300 pages of all new materials every time. that would not leave me time for eating and sleeping and general physical maintenance.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 22 February 2018 18:57 (six years ago) link

then again i am also a course coordinator and have tp prepare materials for classes i may or may not be teaching
that's another issue though

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 22 February 2018 18:58 (six years ago) link

oops TO prepare

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 22 February 2018 18:58 (six years ago) link

in my case, it's because i'm always teaching new courses - i am authorized in chemistry, physics and math. so when i teach math i tend to get switched around between different levels. and the switch from california standards to common core meant a lot of redesign.

i teach regular and AP chem and physics, and they (college board) redesigned AP chem in 2013 and AP physics in 2014, so i had to redesign my materials. for regular classes i also had to redesign from california to NGSS.

and then on top of that i've been at three different schools in 12 years. the first was 100% PBL with a very high proportion of special ed students. the second was very traditional in a super high-achieving school with very high SES. and now i'm at a 100% free and reduced lunch school with a very high proportion of language learners. so every time i switch schools i have to re-jigger my materials for a new population.

i'm hoping it settles down soon ... but it's kind of been a perfect storm i guess ...

the late great, Thursday, 22 February 2018 19:04 (six years ago) link

To be fair, I create three hundredish pages per year, not per semester. My school year runs 185+ days, and I create something new at least a couple of times per week, usually 2-3 pages in length. Then I modify and adapt. I’m a big advocate of a student-led classroom, and when I’m roped into a set/previous curriculum I end up feeling like a cart before a horse.

Middle school is really hard to teach, because in the same classroom I’ll have kids reading/writing as college freshman, and kids struggling w/ comprehension on a third grade level. I’ve never found a textbook/curriculum that is interesting enough to engage both ends of the spectrum - but it’s no sweat to make something compelling on my own from ready materials (i.e. why we read Robert Frost and ee cummings and Gary Soto and Amy Tan and Avi and Sandra Cisneros and Judy Blume and Langston Hughes)

The cost of this, though, is that I don’t get to spend a lot of time thinking up creative pedagogies, and my in-room practice has gotten increasingly stale.

rb (soda), Thursday, 22 February 2018 19:32 (six years ago) link

i agree with you completely about customizing and the lack of utility of a pre-made curriculum
know what you mean about teaching multi-level classrooms
my mom taught middle school for 30 years and there are extracurricular challenges that no amount of worksheets and handouts could solve

ultimately we all have the same problems -- people expect us to be wizards monomaniacally focused on teaching above all else
i don't think this is fair or reasonable esp considering the compensation, grief, and, who knows, arms training we might need to go through :(

plus everyone thinks they know how to do our job
godspeed, everyone

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 22 February 2018 19:41 (six years ago) link

Hello, thread. I am a) old (early 40s) and ii) an RQT, teaching English at a secondary school. I'm a classic midlife crisis, basically. The job is fucking mental, isn't it? It's a bit like parenthood in that if anyone could actually communicate the day-to-day chaos of it, no one would actually do it. That said, I do love it. Most of it. Well, bits of it.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 23 February 2018 18:10 (six years ago) link

if anyone could actually communicate the day-to-day chaos of it, no one would actually do it

The disconnect there is why the longer you teach, the more you're inclined to let every new initiative go in one ear and out the other. It's all well-meaning, but most all of it takes place in some fictional classroom that has very little connection to the day-to-day chaos.

clemenza, Friday, 23 February 2018 20:50 (six years ago) link

Yes, I'm slowly coming to terms with this. I'd no real sense of just how autonomous teachers actually are - how, after a time, it's really you and the chaos. This is still half-formed but... it's a mixture of that and managing what is essentially an always already paranoid teaching subject by which I mean the teaching-ego that's formed in that first, unbelievably intense first year, where one is watched, and critiqued mercilessly, is by design and nurture, self-critical ('the best teachers are self-reflective!') to the point of madness. I still feel that watching eye, even now. That might be just my particular pathology, though.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 23 February 2018 21:30 (six years ago) link

That's spot-on. After a few years it's just you, the kids, and the chaos; I would guess, in the last 15 years, a principal has been in my room watching a lesson or activity fewer than 10 times--and some of that was the annual 5-year review. It gets to the point where you can't even convince someone you're doing a lousy job when you absolutely know that you are. I was having a nightmarish time last year--wrote about it somewhere in here, I think--and whenever I'd share that with another teacher, that I had no idea at the time what I was doing and wasn't helping anyone, it was always "No, no--you're doing a great job." Some combination of politeness, support, and the shared assumption that merely getting through the year counts for a lot.

clemenza, Friday, 23 February 2018 23:27 (six years ago) link

time for eating and sleeping and general physical maintenance.

― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, February 22, 2018 12:57 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

in my experience you can choose one of these 3 (i choose eating)
srsly my health is in shambles but i'm a pretty decent teacher now and im happy

NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Saturday, 24 February 2018 01:45 (six years ago) link

i think it should bother me more that ive put on like 80 pounds the last few years but im still extremely fucking cute so whatevs

NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Saturday, 24 February 2018 01:46 (six years ago) link

That's spot-on. After a few years it's just you, the kids, and the chaos; I would guess, in the last 15 years, a principal has been in my room watching a lesson or activity fewer than 10 times--and some of that was the annual 5-year review. It gets to the point where you can't even convince someone you're doing a lousy job when you absolutely know that you are. I was having a nightmarish time last year--wrote about it somewhere in here, I think--and whenever I'd share that with another teacher, that I had no idea at the time what I was doing and wasn't helping anyone, it was always "No, no--you're doing a great job." Some combination of politeness, support, and the shared assumption that merely getting through the year counts for a lot.

I've been thinking about this a fair bit, amongst general introspection about the madness of the job. We've just had a few snow days which were like a window of sanity. I got to read, which was novel, and sleep relatively well, not dreaming about Y11. But yeah, simply being there is a thing, isn't it? No matter that you feel half-powered most of the time, if not worse.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Thursday, 8 March 2018 22:06 (six years ago) link

five months pass...

about to start year #9. im stoked bc i'm going to have a full academic decathlon team and we're actually going to be competitive. i...might be teaching AP? they still havent told me LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL goddammit. im in my last semester of grad school before i graduate in december which means i'll get some of my life back in the spring.

21st savagery fox (m bison), Sunday, 12 August 2018 17:44 (five years ago) link

have you ever taught AP before?

the late great, Sunday, 12 August 2018 17:45 (five years ago) link

the first year is brutal, esp if the course has been recently revamped (mine has)

the late great, Sunday, 12 August 2018 17:46 (five years ago) link

i'm not sure if i'm going to do science olympiad again this year ... the last two years we have not been competitive and honestly the event as a whole is kind of a drag (in that it's very parent-driven, not that engaging for the kids, and not really structured toward developing scientific understanding, creativity, etc) ... but i am sure i will have some kids come begging for something to buff up their resumes

i already had to tell the kids that want to do rescue committee firmly no because they had been so useless the last two years

the late great, Sunday, 12 August 2018 17:49 (five years ago) link

well it wasn't a firm no

it was "no until you bring me written plans with deadlines and deliverables for three meaningful student-run service projects", no more "raising awareness" bs

the late great, Sunday, 12 August 2018 17:51 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

been sitting with this article all day, incredibly fucked up

21st savagery fox (m bison), Friday, 30 November 2018 20:21 (five years ago) link

what a nightmare

the late great, Friday, 30 November 2018 21:14 (five years ago) link

not the only alternative school out there that's functionally a cult, from what I've heard

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Friday, 30 November 2018 21:39 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

I've been keeping a Google classroom page this year--better than the board-created page I used to use (which wasn't bad). I posted a novel-study assignment today: "Joey Pigza - Culminating Task." (Jargon...I rail against it, but sometimes I give in.) The kids--grade 3 and grade 4--love to post responses, some of which kill me.

From V___: "thank you so much for the joey pigza culmination"

Culminate away.

clemenza, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 00:34 (five years ago) link

(Can I just post, being a parent, I'm in awe of teachers. Many tell me I'd have been good at it. But since I feel rub as a parent, I'd prob fuck that up too. The chaos description seems apt. What I find most saddening/maddening is the intro of technology/direct communication. So many patents pester the teachers. Question their authority. I myself have never done so. There's a distinct: that's the school/classroom. The teacher gets to decide and apply their rules. I even told teachers: if they are in the wrong, you are in charge. Not I.)

nathom, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 15:24 (five years ago) link

I was looking over some of the stuff I've posted here the past few years and came across the back-on-forth on rubrics six years ago. No better example of how they never settle on anything before moving onto something else. Rubrics are so passé now--it's task requirements and success criteria. ("Co-created," of course.) Our resource teacher--someone I like, and she's helped me at times--is a true believer in all this stuff, I'm most definitely not, so when she asked me a few weeks ago if I knew the difference between the two, the question put me off enough that I made it a point to make up an antiquated rubric instead. (I'm finished this year, so at a certain point, it's like nobody cares what you do anymore. It's a great feeling.) Would bet a small fortune: four or five years from now, the words "task requirement" and "success criteria" will never be heard.

clemenza, Wednesday, 27 February 2019 06:22 (five years ago) link

When I started teaching in earnest (ca. ‘03) it was all about “learning opportunities” which now seems both quaint and de rigeur.

rb (soda), Wednesday, 27 February 2019 12:02 (five years ago) link

i still use rubrics and don't feel shame about it

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 27 February 2019 14:34 (five years ago) link

my students like them too. sometimes i use a checklist to get them ready to turn in an assignment but the grade is determined by the rubric. i hate grading. however, i love teaching.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 27 February 2019 14:38 (five years ago) link

GRADING, you say?

more like DEGRADING if you ask me!!

the late great, Wednesday, 27 February 2019 19:24 (five years ago) link

Once a year--today was that day--the kids will be working on a math test and I'll take out some chocolate and say, "You guys work on your math test; I'll be sitting here eating chocolate." I'm going to miss that.

clemenza, Thursday, 7 March 2019 00:09 (five years ago) link

<3

you know who deserves sitewide mod privileges? (m bison), Thursday, 7 March 2019 01:24 (five years ago) link

I'm on the clock.

clemenza, Thursday, 7 March 2019 12:28 (five years ago) link

Swine! Seriously though, good luck and enjoy those 100-odd days.

(Just for a minute there, I read DeLillo and thought, Don!)

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Thursday, 7 March 2019 20:20 (five years ago) link

I can't tell you how many times people come up to me on the street and start asking about arcane plot points from Underworld...Thanks; only about 70 of them in the classroom.

clemenza, Thursday, 7 March 2019 20:53 (five years ago) link

Things I will miss, part 83: learning stuff I never knew, in this case what games and sports Ancient Egyptians played (from a grade 4 slide show):

"What the Egypt people played: fishing, rowing, football, basketball, golf, hockey, tennis, swimming...chess, weight lifting, wrestling, long jump and other card games."

clemenza, Saturday, 16 March 2019 01:02 (five years ago) link

i mean i bet there are people in egypt in 2019 who do that

you know who deserves sitewide mod privileges? (m bison), Saturday, 16 March 2019 04:52 (five years ago) link

Pretty clearly, their research led them to a page on Egypt today--happens all the time with kids. The thought of King Tut standing over a three-foot putt on 18 still made me laugh.

clemenza, Saturday, 16 March 2019 15:54 (five years ago) link

dying @ "long jump and other card games"

the late great, Saturday, 16 March 2019 16:04 (five years ago) link

Dying @ ancient Egyptians golfing

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Saturday, 16 March 2019 20:05 (five years ago) link

one of my students got into yale!!!!!!!!!!!!! yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(for reference of how big of a deal this is at my school, more of my former students have been convicted of murder than gone to ivy league schools)

you know who deserves sitewide mod privileges? (m bison), Saturday, 30 March 2019 00:17 (five years ago) link

That's great--I've had other success stories, not an Ivy League school (that I know of), and they always mean a lot.

clemenza, Saturday, 30 March 2019 15:10 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

In 21 years of teaching, I've had to administer standardized provincial testing in all but four of them. (Students do it in grade 3 and grade 6 here.) It came in one year before I started, and I wouldn't be surprised if it only outlasts me by a few years. I think--I hope--it is gradually dawning on the public what a rigged charade it is.

The only useful things I've gotten out of it were 1) marking it for the first few summers, which was genuinely worthwhile from the standpoint of learning how to assess (and allowed me to put away some money), and 2) the signs I post on my door every year while we're writing it.

http://phildellio.tripod.com/eqao.jpg

clemenza, Thursday, 23 May 2019 04:23 (four years ago) link

One regret about leaving now: I won't be around eight years from now, when I'd have a class where half the boys and a couple of the girls are named Kawhi.

clemenza, Saturday, 1 June 2019 20:21 (four years ago) link

just got back from graduation. always a dope experience.

be the 2 chainz you want 2 see in the world (m bison), Saturday, 1 June 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link

I always enjoy the grade 8 grad at our school. This year, though--with an incredibly small class of 14--I've never taught any of them (I've coached two or three).

clemenza, Saturday, 1 June 2019 20:45 (four years ago) link

i teach primarily 12th graders (high school seniors) so it's an annual thing for me now.

be the 2 chainz you want 2 see in the world (m bison), Saturday, 1 June 2019 20:59 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

When I write my half-arsed 'the impossible profession' book, one of my chapters/sections will be titled 'getting used to holidays - the unspoken something or other' because, four years in, it's still really weird. I'm all a) BIG PLANS - do the garage, shave the cat, make the garden less like a jungle, write a poem a day b) spend every second with my family! c) read everything d) sleep and laze about etc etc.

A) I'm quickly reminded I'm shit at big plans and trying to actually do anything with b) being such a big factor is the key.
B) Well, christ.
C) I'm currently in the grip of this and literally trying to read everything and it's driving me mad.
D) This gets old quite quickly and a), b) and c) are like gadflies.

Anyway, yes, I'm turning having 6 weeks off into a ballache - what of it?

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 10:01 (four years ago) link

summer is def too long

Carisis LaVerted (m bison), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 13:52 (four years ago) link

i spent the entire time either dealing with a tooth infection or complications that arose from it. awesome vacay!!!!!!!!!!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 15:39 (four years ago) link

i would rather have some scattered time off during the year than one time per year when i can try to accomplish something substantial and fail due to circumstances that happen to coincide with that one time of year

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 15:39 (four years ago) link

Can I still post here, or do I have to look for a "Rolling Thread Where We Were Teachers" thread? There are a handful of year-round schools in my former board that are exactly what LL describes above--a bunch of scattered two- and- three-week breaks throughout the year. I always needed the long break and was never tempted to apply to one of them.

clemenza, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 15:43 (four years ago) link

tbh i think we all need the long break because it's the only break we get -- i wouldn't need it so badly if i had more breaks!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 15:45 (four years ago) link

i literally spent my entire break being sicker than i have ever been and dealing with monster physical problems
now that they have been handled on my break they are invisible to my coworkers, who inevitably expect me to be feeling chipper and refreshed after a lengthy "break" when i barely feel able to function. this is not healthy imo

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 15:47 (four years ago) link

also i have stopped referring to it as a vacation. it's "time between contracts"

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 15:50 (four years ago) link

amen

Carisis LaVerted (m bison), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 18:51 (four years ago) link

This is how a teacher in Gaza welcomes the children in her class every morning.
❤️🇵🇸 pic.twitter.com/LdVvz29AMV

— James Melville (@JamesMelville) August 10, 2019

j., Monday, 12 August 2019 02:48 (four years ago) link

that is so precious and totally a kid-friendly way to teach about consent!!!

Carisis LaVerted (m bison), Monday, 12 August 2019 03:10 (four years ago) link

I love that.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 12 August 2019 07:24 (four years ago) link

four weeks pass...

A friend interviewed me about teaching just before I retired last spring (link at the top):

http://andyoucandancetoit.wordpress.com/2018/04/02/podcasts-interviews-radio-shows/

If anything, it's mostly about how difficult the job was even 20 years along. There's some stuff on my various principals that I contemplated removing, but I decided in the end it wasn't that big a deal.

clemenza, Monday, 9 September 2019 19:00 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I've invented a new term for supplying a couple of days a week after you retire: load management.

If you ever get the chance to supply (or, for Americans, substitute) post-retirement at the school you just left, especially if you were there for a long time (21 years for me), I highly recommend doing so. The kids know you, so you get zero grief; you get to see all your old students, who basically give you a hero's welcome; you know all the staff. My old room is being used for storage this year, so even my nameplate is still up there. As close as I've ever gotten to getting well paid for doing nothing. (I was in for an old friend last week, and she told me she needed me to actually teach for two periods--she was practically apologetic.)

clemenza, Thursday, 26 September 2019 02:15 (four years ago) link

I'm just entering my fourth year of teaching (fifth, if you count the *shudder* training year) and it's been a really tough start. It's an Outstanding school and we've just had what are basically the best results we've ever had. Due to the Oustanding status, we've not been Ofstedededed for over ten years and since that privilege was recently officially removed, everyone is shitting themselves. We've always been left largely alone, with a 'let teachers teach' mantra but the purported Ofsted visit has meant a whole bunch of shit pouring in from above: directives for seemingly every kid - on various lists -, new safeguarding measures, new disciplinary procedures which is resulting in 100+ kids every night in detention. It's making for a really odd atmosphere: embattled, faintly aggressive, stressful. I've properly fallen out with both my Y11 classes and I'm sure it's transferred stress. I've also managed to fall upwards into a 2nd in department role, under a part-time HoD, which is intense and seems proper ad hoc at times. I'm also really aware for the first time of the problems associated with teaching the same texts over and over - great for planning, but also an edge of drudgery, which I'm concerned I'm communicating to the kids.

Anyway, short version: this fucking job, eh?

Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Thursday, 3 October 2019 20:05 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

I must say that I am very anxious to get away from this place. I have become very weak in health and do not seem to recover myself here or likely to do so. Teaching is very burdensome, especially when you have much of it: I have. I have not much time and almost no energy - for I am always tired - to do anything on my own account.

Gerard Manley Hopkins on teaching

Ngolo Cantwell (Chinaski), Friday, 31 January 2020 22:26 (four years ago) link

Ontario's a huge mess right now. Rotating strike-days board to board (my old school was out today), a province-wide strike-day next week, endless sniping in the media, escalating job action (onto extra-curricular) if there's no settlement by Friday. I was supposed to supply next Monday/Tuesday, but Tuesday's another strike day; I'm at my old school, so I'll stick around and walk with them.

clemenza, Friday, 31 January 2020 22:37 (four years ago) link

Just read your post from three months ago, chinaski...Some of it didn't make sense to me (Ofsted?)--are you in Britain? My standard advice for stuff pouring in from above is smile, nod, and let it go in one ear and out the other. But I know that's not always possible.

clemenza, Friday, 31 January 2020 22:42 (four years ago) link

G.M. Hopkins otm as usual.

Lily Dale, Saturday, 1 February 2020 00:02 (four years ago) link

Clemenza - yes I'm in the UK; Oftsed is the government office for standards in education. And they are as Orwellian as that sounds. I mean, they were set up to introduce some sense of accountability, which I can understand, but the relationship has become so toxic and punitive that they basically exist to make teachers' lives a misery. I'm lucky, in that my school remains largely untouched, but schools in 'special measures' or 'requires improvement' are under what amounts to outside rule and governed by whatever directives are imposed upon them. It's hideous. Our previous head was brilliant in shielding us from the latest bullshit but we've had a new head and she has retained the basic ethos but there are things creeping in...

Anyway, aye - GMH otm.

Ngolo Cantwell (Chinaski), Saturday, 1 February 2020 10:24 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

Teachers...you remember them.

Got a FB birthday notification today for a former student (I was still substituting at the time) celebrating his 40th. Felt like some kind of a vicarious milestone.

clemenza, Sunday, 15 March 2020 13:47 (four years ago) link

A Brooklyn high school teacher died yesterday from COVID-19.

http://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/25/nyregion/coronavirus-death-brooklyn-school-principal.html

clemenza, Thursday, 26 March 2020 16:31 (four years ago) link

The mom of a student I had 20 years ago posted some old photos on Facebook this week, one with me, so we're FB friends now. From a post she just put up: "I’m running out of batteries......get yer mind out of the gutter." Geez--moms!

clemenza, Monday, 30 March 2020 14:13 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

My wife (public school librarian) got a linkedin email from an old lawyer colleague (literally named Karen) who was looking for public school teachers who "might be looking for extra work" to run some pod for her kids and a couple other rich families. My wife gently told her that she wasn't interested and that she wasn't comfortable with the ideas of these pods given the huge equity issues they raise.

DJI, Thursday, 23 July 2020 00:12 (three years ago) link

Felt a pang of deep shame when I saw a former student at my part-time job and I recognized them first. Not really sure they even remembered me when I told them how we were supposed to have known each other.

very avant-garde (Variablearea), Thursday, 23 July 2020 01:35 (three years ago) link

no need to feel shame about that! i love recognizing people and if they don't recognize me, oh well!

the separation of fortunate children into private learning pods makes me feel ill; i can see the temptation to do it esp for unemployed teachers or those who are looking to gain experience or whatever reason but it's just so wrong. still, i know it's coming and probably not too long before some people i know are even hiring private instructors for their kids :( :( :(

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 23 July 2020 02:14 (three years ago) link

thinking of taking a pod gig and seeing how long i can teach age-appropriate lessons on das kapital b4 i get fired

methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Thursday, 23 July 2020 02:53 (three years ago) link

Well this is interesting:

San Francisco officials are readying an unprecedented educational assistance program for the fall meant to help up to 6,000 children with their distance-learning needs, as parents and students confront the reality of starting the school year without classrooms during the COVID-19 pandemic.

Starting in September, dozens of recreation facilities, libraries and community centers across the city will be transformed into “learning hubs,” spaces where young students who may struggle with remote instruction can go each day to access their digital classwork and the social interactions that virtual schooling cannot provide.
[...]
Officials are prioritizing low-income families, children in public housing or the foster care system, homeless youth, and others in living situations that make remote learning particularly challenging. At first, the hubs will serve students in kindergarten through fifth grade, a group that has lower rates of infection, but officials will consider making the hubs available to older students. They will operate five days a week during ordinary school hours and will be staffed by experienced nonprofits and other organizations — many of which already partner with the city to provide after-school programs.

Hm. Well then I guess if rich people want to pod up (in San Francisco, at least), have at it? What do you guys think?

DJI, Friday, 24 July 2020 00:03 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Three weeks out, I still haven't decided whether to supply/substitute or not, though I'm leaning towards yes.

I don't think in-school will last past September--it'll take one school with three or four cases to shut everything down--so if I don't get some days in before that, I think the year will be a write-off. I lost my last 20 days last year, costing me about $5,000, but was lucky to have gotten in 30. Because all it will take is a sniffle for a teacher to book off, I'm sure the work will be there.

I honestly don't know how risky it'll be. And I'll be leaving a town with no cases to teach in a municipality with the second most in Ontario (although not even remotely close to what's going on in the States--there are currently 159 active cases there). And I'm still not sure how vulnerable I am personally; I've always had reason to believe I have a very strong immune system, but who knows.

What's actually going to happen three weeks from now, the province seemingly hasn't figured that out.

clemenza, Sunday, 16 August 2020 01:31 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Someone alerted me to the supply-substitute/itinerant-long-term-care-worker analogy a couple of weeks ago--hadn't really thought about it--and I decided I would at least limit myself to my old school.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/supply-teachers-covid-ontario_ca_5f4fcb2fc5b699772e2aada9

I'm trying to get onto the supply list where I live now; I suspect it was a disqualifying admission to let them know I was still planning to do the occasional day with my old board.

clemenza, Thursday, 3 September 2020 05:18 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Just taught my first online French class. It sucked. I suck. The students were bored to tears. I'm feeling like crap about my general language teaching abilities now, even though I know a lot of it is just not having any remote teaching skills yet.

It doesn't help that they hired me a week into the semester, I've had none of the trainings or practice time the other teachers have had, and scheduling has been messed up so only half my students were even there, making me unsure of what I should even do on Day 1. Still, I should have planned a better/ more interesting class and I'm mad at myself.

Lily Dale, Friday, 18 September 2020 20:12 (three years ago) link

What grade level? Almost every elementary teacher I know hates online teaching.

clemenza, Friday, 18 September 2020 20:23 (three years ago) link

Seventh and eighth. The kids are great, actually - they're attentive and doing their best. I just didn't have a sense of how long it takes to ask a question and get an answer, how to quickly direct them to an activity, and how to sustain attention when you're not physically there. I tried to keep it simple, since only half of them were there - just have them introduce themselves and say how they were doing, and then talk about the class and have a Q&A, and then a short activity to practice one of the apps we'll be using. But I ended up talking too much, and spending too much time trying to navigate the tech, and none of my explanations were clear and we never got to the one actual activity I had planned. It felt like the very first day of teaching rather than the first day of a new class.

The adjustment is just very weird, from being able to tell them to turn and talk to having every interaction be between you and individual students. All my teacher senses - pacing, student talk time, how I'm coming across to them, etc. - are completely thrown off.

Lily Dale, Friday, 18 September 2020 20:38 (three years ago) link

I don't think I could do it, and I'm glad I got out before I had to. I'm not even sure how you teach math to struggling younger students, say grade 3 or 4, with the requisite social distancing in a school. To help kids with math, you've got to be right there next to them, looking at their work and finding out what the problem is. You can't just talk kids through math.

clemenza, Friday, 18 September 2020 20:47 (three years ago) link

Yeah, language is very weird too, because typically you would have students turn and talk every few minutes. I knew you couldn't do that remotely, and that it would be weird, but I didn't have a good sense of just how flat everything would feel without movement or turn-and-talk.

Lily Dale, Friday, 18 September 2020 20:51 (three years ago) link

Don't beat yourself up - teaching remotely is brutal and so hard to get used to! As you say, all of those cues you're used to - human heat, basically - are gone and impossible to replicate online.

I eventually got into a rhythm, which was much less of me rambling on, and more 5 minutes of instruction, 15/20 minutes of them carrying out a task. Quizzes on Teams/Forms worked well, as did Show My Homework. I think you have to direct the energy you'd use in a lesson towards creative forms of feedback on their work: you could try audio feedback, email, target setting. Jamboard is worth exploring (in Google Classroom), Whiteboard (in Teams) - you can collaborate in both of these and see multiple students' work in front of you in real-time.

I came to accept that I was performing a slightly different function as an online teacher; I also had to accept that I simply didn't have the same level of control and that I lost some students altogether. It's shitty but you're still doing an amazing thing.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 18 September 2020 20:55 (three years ago) link

Thank you, that's very helpful and reassuring.

Lily Dale, Friday, 18 September 2020 20:56 (three years ago) link

I'm an English teacher btw, and it's so fucking *hard* to do this stuff when you can't see faces and gauge emotional responses. I'm back in the classroom now and I'd forgotten that that's hard too, but that simple fact of being able to question and respond to body language and not let students get away with half-arsed answers is *everything*. Hang in there because it's not forever.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 18 September 2020 20:59 (three years ago) link

Thank you! I'm an English teacher too, most of the time, but the last couple years I've gotten stuck teaching French, which is stressful in itself because I'm still building up my basic language teaching skills.

Lily Dale, Friday, 18 September 2020 21:01 (three years ago) link

Do you have a sense of how long you'll be doing it for?

The most frequent conversations I had with other teachers were along the lines of 'I didn't sign up for this!', which is a way of saying for all its maddening aspects, the job is about relationships, and online you're just jabbering into the black mirror and the feedback is distorted. Having said that, certain students do blossom online - more introverted kids who find classroom situations intimidating etc. Eck, it's an adventure, innit. Tech troubles are part of the ridiculous bullshit of it all

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 18 September 2020 21:16 (three years ago) link

I hear you all — don’t be too hard on yourself is the only advice. That will prevent self immolation/burnout. It’s the clarity of the moment I realized that being hard on myself was a self destructive habit and started to just do my best and self preserve when necessary.

I am managing, absolutely not doing my best, and giving myself full permission and encouragement to care for my personal needs and those of my loved ones.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 18 September 2020 21:37 (three years ago) link

Thanks to both of you. I have no idea how long this will be for. Right now my district is online-only for the fall; they'll make a determination about spring at some point.

Lily Dale, Friday, 18 September 2020 21:51 (three years ago) link

everyone otm about everything. this is nerve wracking at best.

i got a cheap lavalier mic, it's helping me not shout into the void

aside from that i have no good advice that hasn't already been mentioned. maybe do what i did and draw a stick figure in a hammock on a post it note with the words relax written on it too and put that post it on your laptop to remind yourself to relax.

the late great, Friday, 18 September 2020 22:56 (three years ago) link

One of the teachers at my old school posted a list of goals for teachers this year: "and we'll try to learn something along the way" (or words to that effect) was fourth on the list. Which is basically saying what you've all been saying.

clemenza, Friday, 18 September 2020 23:20 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Just wanted to thank everyone who reassured me after my first remote teaching day. It's still weird as hell, and I still don't know how to plan remote lessons to be both interesting and productive, but the actual talking-to-the-screen part of it has gotten much easier and I think most of my students like me okay.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 8 October 2020 16:30 (three years ago) link

It seems like everyone is more or less struggling. One of the science teachers at the school I'm working at just retired today - did a month of remote teaching, then went, "Nope, this isn't working for me," and peaced out.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 8 October 2020 16:32 (three years ago) link

God bless for fighting forward; this is just the worst for everyone.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 8 October 2020 18:30 (three years ago) link

My friend with two intelligent, artistic teenagers told me the other night that they're both failing multiple classes, despite the best efforts of teachers and admins to make due. Their senior year is a waste.

She thinks they should have scrapped the school year or gone with a Montessori model of learning, so that students could get some credit for engaging in their own interests. I agree with her, to be honest!

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Sunday, 11 October 2020 11:30 (three years ago) link

I am teaching in person on Tuesday. I will be in two rooms of ~ 12 students for three hours at a time, during which they will remove their masks for lunch.

MicroCovid calculator puts my risk at 2-4% likelihood of contracting corona per day, assuming all protocols are effectively followed.

rb (soda), Sunday, 11 October 2020 15:13 (three years ago) link

That's basically what I've doing as a substitute--but it's one room for six hours at a time. Didn't realize the odds were that high.

clemenza, Sunday, 11 October 2020 15:28 (three years ago) link

yeah are they really that high? This is now week 5 of our term, I've been teaching in person 4 hours one day per week (2 hours with about 30 students, then 2 hours with about 15 students). As far as I know there haven't been any cases among students or faculty. The rooms are big enough not be packed too badly.

All cars are bad (Euler), Sunday, 11 October 2020 15:46 (three years ago) link

The school where I substitute has zero documented cases right now, so technically that'd be 0%, except I know you have to account for potential asymptomatic carriers--I'd have to take a two-week timeout to be sure.

clemenza, Sunday, 11 October 2020 15:59 (three years ago) link

You can check your risk here — https://www.microcovid.org/ but it’s hard to get the numbers exactly right.

My town had four confirmed cases this week, but it is wealthy and testing is not readily available.

I am actually less worried about my safety in the building than I am about what happens if/when I DO get sick. (Because we do not have subs, shared lesson plans, and the expectation is that we work from until we can’t).

The erosion of workers’ rights is one of the scariest parts of this whole situation.

rb (soda), Sunday, 11 October 2020 16:22 (three years ago) link

I could not agree with you more on that. My rights (and those of my few remaining colleagues) have been eroded to such an alarming degree that my internal bells are all going off. All the time.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Sunday, 11 October 2020 20:10 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

Most of the public will be appalled, but I agree with the West Virginia superintendent who made news today announcing that snow days will remain in place there.

With remote learning in place now, I know a snow day can't really be rationally defended. But if you've taught elementary (can't speak for secondary), you know what a godsend they were. Even a no-bus day--which at my old school, meant maybe 30 kids total in attendance--was a gift in terms of catching up on marking and organizing the room. The superintendent is selling this in terms of the students--tobogganing, frolicking, etc.--and sure, students love them too. But a snow day for a teacher is pure joy.

Public: good point, you don't get enough fucking time off already.

clemenza, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 23:47 (three years ago) link

Public: good point, you don't get enough fucking time off already.

The public would break into a cold, nightmare sweat and go weak in the knees if their job suddenly became walking into a classroom full of 35 sixth graders day after day and they were required to teach them the curriculum for seven hours straight with minimal breaks. It would break them in pieces before the end of the first week.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Thursday, 17 December 2020 00:34 (three years ago) link

No argument here, but with an unreceptive audience, I've found it impossible to move that conversation past SUMMERSOFFSUMMERSOFFSUMMERSOFFSUMMERSOFFSUMMERSOFFSUMMERSOFFSUMMERSOFFSUMMERSOFFSUMMERSOFF...

clemenza, Thursday, 17 December 2020 00:47 (three years ago) link

ppl tend to stfu abt summers when i explain to them how much grading / planning / tutoring i do outside of my "work day"

the late great, Thursday, 17 December 2020 01:08 (three years ago) link

Having my life dictated by the academic calendar for 14 years now I can say that the “summers off/bust ass beyond reason 10 mo/yr” model is actually not a very good one.

Imagine getting to travel when you want, to have 4 weeks of vacation (or some ppl I know get “unlimited” PTO *as needed*)

Instead you work doglike for 10 mo, need a month to recover and then you get the other month to relax but it’s always the same month of the year and this will never change. Your entire life revolves around this calendar.

Even with the envied “summers off” it’s a raw deal. My school switched to year round and offered us no secure PTO. Raaaaawwwwest deal

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 17 December 2020 01:33 (three years ago) link

I understood the arguments for year-round (from a teacher's point of view), but I never even considered applying one of the two or three schools in my board that offered that.

Instead you work doglike for 10 mo, need a month to recover and then you get the other month to relax but it’s always the same month of the year and this will never change. Your entire life revolves around this calendar--dead on (though I'd say it was more like half the other month to relax, because the anxiety started up in the third week, and the fourth I was in the school setting up). And even with all that, I still wanted those uninterrupted two months away from the school.

clemenza, Thursday, 17 December 2020 02:01 (three years ago) link

Yes agree, the two weeks before going back were fraught so yeah two good weeks in there.

Is it normal to be fried to a salty crisp like this? I don’t believe so. I’m on burnout outreach if anyone needs resources.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 17 December 2020 02:13 (three years ago) link

Three months off = six unpaid weeks

mildew and sanctimony (soda), Thursday, 17 December 2020 02:37 (three years ago) link

also lmao at "summers" i literally get july and a week on either side.

honestly it's not that bad though. i could think of worse things i could be doing, and workload or no at least i got to talk to teenagers about escape velocity and car accidents for like nine hours today instead of whatever lame shit ppl do at desk jobs

the late great, Thursday, 17 December 2020 02:38 (three years ago) link

Guys, Friday’s my last day before winter break, and even so I just don’t know if I’m going to make it. This year is crazy.

horseshoe, Thursday, 17 December 2020 02:51 (three years ago) link

I feel like I spent the last month putting my students through a bunch of really dreary classes that were just repetitive and content-focused and no fun. Mostly because I had a ton of election/post-election anxiety and headaches, and kept having to work through headaches where I could barely think. I feel really bad because I know my class started out pretty fun and I feel like I'm losing my students. This week I have good plans and good energy, but I can tell my students have lost momentum. Wish I could rewind and do this whole month over.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 17 December 2020 02:57 (three years ago) link

if it makes anybody feel any better i know a lot of ppl (teachers students and parents) at a lot of different schools (primary secondary and higher, large and small, poor and rich, urban and suburban, high and low performing) and nobody, i mean nobody, has anything good to say abt this year

there's a fucking plague, what can you do

the late great, Thursday, 17 December 2020 03:35 (three years ago) link

amen

discourse stu (m bison), Thursday, 17 December 2020 03:35 (three years ago) link

I like that this has resulted in more small-group teaching sessions. I hope that carries over into the future.

DJI, Thursday, 17 December 2020 03:36 (three years ago) link

im gonna spend some time over the break refiguring what i want to do with our class time bc i judt do no trust anyone higher up than me in the leadership chart to know anything right now

discourse stu (m bison), Thursday, 17 December 2020 03:36 (three years ago) link

I've just broken up for Christmas and feel utterly destroyed. Not entirely sure how we've made it through, to be honest. And, just as the kids are exiting the gates, the DfE announce that the start of next term will be delayed and we'll be teaching online. Would it be possible for these fuckwits to get a little bit more organised? Three more days notice and we would have been able to get students set up with resources etc. Now, the start of next term will be a mad rush. Happy Christmas!

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, 17 December 2020 18:10 (three years ago) link

I've been in school since September, fwiw. We've been incredibly lucky and had minimal cases and haven't had to rely too heavily on bought-in supply staff.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, 17 December 2020 18:14 (three years ago) link

Can't remember where you are, Chinaski...Ontario's being a little coy, but some teachers at my old school think the break will be extended for a week or two extra (i.e., move online). Interesting theory from one of them: so no teachers would have time to book a holiday in the Barbados or wherever. (A highly subjective theory, I should add: she's a dedicated traveler.)

Glad I've banked 25 supply/sub days so far, in case there's an even longer shutdown. They raised our ceiling this year from 50 to 95--I'll be content to get to 50 later in the spring and summer.

clemenza, Thursday, 17 December 2020 20:26 (three years ago) link

Less coy today: “Our chief medical officer of health has confirmed that the transmission of COVID-19 in schools has remained low … however, the public health environment in Ontario continues to evolve rapidly,” the document said. “The government is continuing to monitor the COVID-19 situation, including recent trends in hospitalizations and intensive care unit patients. As a reminder, we are recommending that boards encourage students and staff to take home any materials that they may require for remote learning before they leave school for the holiday period so that we can continue to be ready for all scenarios.”

clemenza, Thursday, 17 December 2020 20:51 (three years ago) link

All right, here goes: I think I want to become a high school teacher. I know it's a lot of work, thankless, etc etc.

But I don't want to work a desk job. One day sitting at a computer, making edits on PDFs for pharmaceutical companies, confirms it. I love teaching, and I'm pretty good at it.

Any tips or pointers accepted.

"Bi" Dong A Ban He Try (the table is the table), Friday, 18 December 2020 03:25 (three years ago) link

yyyyyeahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! it's a shitty year for teaching, but it gets so much better.

what state are you in?

discourse stu (m bison), Friday, 18 December 2020 04:20 (three years ago) link

PA.

"Bi" Dong A Ban He Try (the table is the table), Friday, 18 December 2020 12:35 (three years ago) link

it looks like they do have an alternate route for folks who are already degree'd up: https://www.education.pa.gov/Educators/Certification/BecomeAnEducator/CertificationPathways/Pages/CPIntern.aspx

discourse stu (m bison), Friday, 18 December 2020 12:46 (three years ago) link

An alternate route where they don't actually explain what the fuck you have to do. Jesus, this is exactly why I've always given up on this type of stuff— the bureaucratic language is so thick that it makes it impossible to understand the basic steps one needs to take to get into the program.

I mean, I figured it out, but the whole page is gonzo in how confusing it is, imho

"Bi" Dong A Ban He Try (the table is the table), Friday, 18 December 2020 22:31 (three years ago) link

My advice, as someone who went from college teaching to secondary, is to do as much of the traditional teacher training, with student teaching included, as possible. There's A LOT to secondary teaching that I didn't know anything about before I did my training, and when you're working with large class sizes and have discipline issues to think about, it's good to have at least a semester, ideally a year, of student teaching before you have to handle everything on your own.

Another thing to think about is how many content areas you could be endorsed in. I went in hoping to teach English but so far have only been able to find jobs in French because it's in higher demand. That's let me get my foot in the door of the district I want, and hopefully I can transfer to an ELA job at some point.

Lily Dale, Friday, 18 December 2020 22:55 (three years ago) link

Thanks Lily. I'd probably try for English, History, and French, with more emphasis on the former. Would love to teach history, really regret that my only university experience in teaching American Studies occurred during my first semester...many things I would have done differently!

"Bi" Dong A Ban He Try (the table is the table), Saturday, 19 December 2020 01:34 (three years ago) link

You two should join us on the French borad some time:

https://www.ilxor.com/ILX/NewAnswersControllerServlet?boardid=725388455

pomenitul, Saturday, 19 December 2020 02:44 (three years ago) link

My French probably isn't good enough for it, but I'll try.

Lily Dale, Saturday, 19 December 2020 02:50 (three years ago) link

Everyone is welcome!

pomenitul, Saturday, 19 December 2020 02:53 (three years ago) link

I got into teaching when I turned 40, Table. I'd had literally zero experience in the classroom but was male, had a decent subject-related CV and I'd barely signed a bit of paper before I was in a classroom. I'd 100% agree with Lily: get as much experience as you can because, curriculum-wise, you'll always know more than the kids, but you won't know how to manage/orchestrate a room and that only comes with time and experience.

We have a thing called SCITT in the UK, where you basically learn in school (school-centred initial teacher training) - as opposed to the University-based route. I'd look for something similar to the SCITT if it's available: you're in school from the beginning, aside from a six-week period at a second placement, you'll be in the same environment for the whole academic year. I'd look closely at where you're going to be based and try to get a good sense of the levels of support because you'll need it! It varies so much from school to school and it's utterly ridiculous. By support I really mean time - what you're looking for is how long you'll have with the class teachers, mentor etc but also if they're available to be in the room with you when you're stumbling through the early phases of teaching. It's hard because it's basically all criticism early on, but it's invaluable. So many training teachers just get bunged into the classroom with no support and it's bullshit. No wonder so many people bail out.

This is all UK-related so apologies if it's not all relevant. Happy to discuss via email if that helps. Good luck! From what I've read on here, any school would chew both arms off to have someone like you and the kids would bloody love you.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Saturday, 19 December 2020 11:02 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Back to online teaching. Two days in and god this is soul crushing.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 14:27 (three years ago) link

Guess students are even more apathetic second time around?

clemenza, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 14:38 (three years ago) link

Yeah, very much so - and very clued-up on how to cut corners. The worst thing is the 'talking to the void' aspect of it. A Y10 class who are cheeky, noisy and boisterous in the classroom were completely mute with me today. Not a word.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 14:41 (three years ago) link

Hello, my former institution offered me a class for the spring semester, which begins next week. Online, with a weekly synchronous session that's 1hr40 minutes long.

The pay is not terrible, but I just started work in another industry that promises to be more stable in the long run (medical proofing and editing).

Legit have no idea what to tell them.

Pere Legume (the table is the table), Monday, 11 January 2021 15:48 (three years ago) link

I think if I were in your position, I’d decline. Even if the pay is not terrible, it’s unlikely to be commensurate with the amount of work you will do. I adjuncted for a while in grad school and after dropping out, and my quality of life improved whennI just stopped being lured by the siren call of adjuncting. It was always exploitative.

horseshoe, Monday, 11 January 2021 16:53 (three years ago) link

Yeah, I think I'm going to turn them down. Too much work for too little reward.

Pere Legume (the table is the table), Monday, 11 January 2021 17:05 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

God, this winter feels endless, and it's not even close to finished. Obviously that mostly has to do with the pandemic/lockdown/stay-at-home order, but I realize it's also because I'm retired and not teaching. I was regularly supplying last winter, so I didn't notice as much.

When I was full-time, there wasn't a winter as such, but a series of small blocks you had to get through to move onto the next one. You started with first report cards/interviews; then Halloween/Thanksgiving; Christmas; second reports; March break; and when the long Easter weekend came, you were done. Now it's just winter, forever.

clemenza, Sunday, 31 January 2021 02:37 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Schools were closed here through January, so I had my first supply job since before Christmas today. I retired as soon as I could because I'd hit the wall with reports, interviews, meetings, and the rest, but I do miss being in the classroom (which is that much more fun when you don't have to worry about that stuff). I found out today from one of my grade 3 guys about a YouTuber with 39 million views who says that 80% of your weight is supported by your two big toes, and also that zombies are real. The first actually seems to be in the neighborhood (it's a bone below the big toe, and 50%). I'm just glad for the warning with the second.

clemenza, Friday, 26 February 2021 00:42 (three years ago) link

Something else I miss: I didn't even know what a YouTuber was till six or seven years ago. I used to do an art lesson where they'd sketch a famous face; I had a slide show and printouts with about 40 people I really liked--Janis Joplin, Jackie Robinson, Warhol, etc.--and they'd do one of mine, and then one of their own choosing that I'd print out for them.

"Can I do Petey Pie?"
"Who's Petey Pie?"
"A YouTuber."

"Can I do Tree Stump?"
"Who's Tree Stump?"
"A YouTuber."

A lot of recent talk here an elsewhere about in-class learning. I didn't really feel any more vulnerable today than before Christmas: the classes are even smaller now, from 10-15. But the big thing is the variants. On the way in, the radio said there were eight new variant cases in Toronto (I was next door, in Brampton). Also, I was in for coverage, so I saw six different classes--obviously, the complete opposite of bubbling or cocooning or whatever.

clemenza, Friday, 26 February 2021 02:35 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Just had an observation that didn't go great, and now I have to wait until Monday for my post-observation meeting. Ugh.

Lily Dale, Friday, 12 March 2021 22:16 (three years ago) link

I hate being observed, it makes me nervous and I overthink both my planning and my teaching.

Lily Dale, Friday, 12 March 2021 22:16 (three years ago) link

observations are, in fact, Bad

class project pat (m bison), Friday, 12 March 2021 22:40 (three years ago) link

I've got my first interview in 23 years this week to get on the supply list where I live (rather than driving crazy distances to the school I retired from). One of the main reasons I stayed there forever is I hate interviews, and they hate me. It'll be done online. I'm assuming I'm not expected to wear a jacket...I will change out my pajamas.

clemenza, Friday, 12 March 2021 23:22 (three years ago) link

Observation is such a bullshit concept. We've moved to a coaching model, mercifully; we pair up, pick something you want help with, then get some useful feedback on what you might do differently. There is no grading and it's basically half hour per term.

I had my first week back this week. It was, to be frank, fucking mental. After three months of a (relative) quiet life, I couldn't cope with the sheer amount of input and questions, particularly from adults. The testing has been managed really well, but it does mean huge disruption to staffing, as it's manned by LSAs and PE teachers. We had a positive case late on Friday and we're a teacher down in the English department.

The main issue is around Y11 (15/16 yr olds) who should be doing their GCSEs this year. It's all teacher-assessed, which is fine, but there's an 'appeals process' in place, which has already been advertised. It means we're going to need as much evidence as we can, to beat off angry parents and Ofqual, so we're basically putting them through a whole round of assessments. These are 'optional' apparently and won't actually be sent out to schools until the end of March so we have no idea what we're actually preparing them for. It's so stressful - for us and the kids. Bollocks to all of it.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Saturday, 13 March 2021 14:06 (three years ago) link

Good luck with your interview clemenza. I'd go into like Red at the end of Shawshank Redemption.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Saturday, 13 March 2021 14:07 (three years ago) link

Appreciate that. I've decided my "strategy" will be to emphasize what mattered to me re supply/substitute teachers when I had my own class--I won't even try to fake my way through jargon.

By "observation," I take it you mean what would be called performance appraisal in Ontario, which happens every five years. Is this your first? The deeper you get into your career, the easier principals are about that. When you get to the last couple, I figured they don't have much choice at that point but to let you skate by. The alternative--"After letting this person teach for 15 years, we've finally decided he/she isn't very effective"--don't look good.

Man, I wish this were the case where I am:

As of Monday, teachers and educators in all 50 states will be eligible to receive Covid-19 vaccinations. The eligibility comes as the US ramps up vaccination efforts in hopes of curbing the spread of coronavirus variants and setting a course toward some sense of normalcy again.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/13/health/us-coronavirus-saturday/index.html

clemenza, Saturday, 13 March 2021 14:42 (three years ago) link

idk what the administrations are like in Canada (you're in Canada right?) but when there is a new administration, you do indeed need to watch out for being told you aren't good enough and being sent on your way IN SPITE OF your commitment and experience.
just sayin -- time will not protect you, at least not in the USA

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 13 March 2021 19:11 (three years ago) link

Canada, yeah. I'm just guessing and inferring there from my own situation--maybe I just got lucky with my principals. The last one especially--I was inside five years from my retirement date--I didn't think my appraisal lesson went particularly well (geometry, I remember, comparing/contrasting shapes), and there was a glaring problem with how I conceived the comparisons, but it didn't matter at all in the end.

clemenza, Saturday, 13 March 2021 20:14 (three years ago) link

Just found out I have to wear a face shield tomorrow, even though I wear glasses--my board made new rules as of Friday. A year into this, this seems like a strange thing to do.

clemenza, Monday, 15 March 2021 22:17 (three years ago) link

The face shield is not a big deal at all. Very lightweight--don't even know it's there.

clemenza, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 16:07 (three years ago) link

xp I'm in my second year of teaching, so I have to be observed and evaluated on the official Danielson framework three times this year. It's actually much more chill than it was at my last job. There, they didn't tell you in advance when you were going to be observed, it could happen any time, and your job really depended on it because the contract was year-to-year and they wouldn't renew it unless you did really well. Here you get advance warning and you're in the hiring pool for the district no matter what, so you'd have to do pretty badly for it to actually affect your job. I just have a lot of anxiety about it left over from two years ago, when I really did bomb an observation and miss my window to get rehired by my school as a result. (I eventually had a good observation and made it into the district hiring pool, but by then most of the jobs were gone.)

The post-observation debrief actually went fine in the end; I think a lot of the problems with my lesson were things that were much more obvious to me than to an observer. Like, they were definitely there, and a language teacher would have noticed and dinged me for them, but my evaluator mostly missed them, so it worked out okay.

Have you had your interview yet?

Lily Dale, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 21:45 (three years ago) link

Friday morning. I grabbed the first spot, as it were--not sure if that's good or not. Someone who's been doing this since 1991 shouldn't be this nervous.

Glad your debrief went well. I think you're right about evaluators zoning out a bit--which is strange, because whenever I had a student teacher, I was amazed at how observant I was, how I'd notice almost everything (including stuff I did all the time, too). I was always very critical of myself as a teacher, but I actually think I was a good associate.

clemenza, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 23:44 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Always good to stop on the middle Saturday of the two week Easter break, when school is distant enough to take on a rosy glow, and remember, ah yes, this is another reason why being a teacher is great.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Saturday, 10 April 2021 09:35 (three years ago) link

They should have take two weeks here, too--for reasons that mystify me, they decided to go online for four days between Easter Monday and delayed spring break.

clemenza, Saturday, 10 April 2021 13:04 (three years ago) link

We only get one week, because we also have a midwinter break in February. Break just started today, and I'm looking forward to it, but at the end of break we go back to in-person teaching and the schedule we've been given makes no sense and is entirely unworkable. The principal literally told us, "We expect you to do the impossible." So I should probably set aside some of my break for figuring out how to do the impossible.

Lily Dale, Saturday, 10 April 2021 14:22 (three years ago) link

Fuck that. Don’t do any work over your break! We all just need to make it through the year.

horseshoe, Saturday, 10 April 2021 15:11 (three years ago) link

I felt bad for enjoying my two weeks, then remembered y'all get three months off in the summer!

And totally don't do any work over the break. Last term, despite only being 3 1/2 weeks was utterly insane. It's legitimately taken me 10 days to recover and feel vaguely human again.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Saturday, 10 April 2021 15:21 (three years ago) link

I have to, though! We've been fully remote all year, and in nine days we go to a schedule where we have remote classes for all the students, plus 70 minutes of in-person "asynchronous time" per class where we have a group of students in the classroom but we're not allowed to teach them anything because that wouldn't be equitable for the students at home. Nine days isn't enough to figure out how to handle that; I'm not sure nine years would be enough.

Lily Dale, Saturday, 10 April 2021 15:30 (three years ago) link

They are asking you to do an impossible thing; it can’t be done! They’ll just have to deal with you figuring it out on the fly.

The way school districts are doing teachers right now makes me deranged-level angry.

horseshoe, Saturday, 10 April 2021 16:16 (three years ago) link

"They are asking you to do an impossible thing" --

This thread should be retitled: They Are Asking You to Do an Impossible Thing (A Rolling Thread Where We Are Teachers).

clemenza, Saturday, 10 April 2021 16:25 (three years ago) link

Freud called it the 'impossible profession' (along with healing and governing).

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Saturday, 10 April 2021 17:23 (three years ago) link

Fuck that. Don’t do any work over your break! We all just need to make it through the year.

― horseshoe, Saturday, April 10, 2021 10:11 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is my m.o. this year

class project pat (m bison), Saturday, 10 April 2021 19:04 (three years ago) link

I've done my first three days of remote supplying. My internet went down for a half-hour the second day. Happily, it was towards the end of the day--they were working on some art, followed by a catch-up period. That it'll happen again is in the back of my mind now.

clemenza, Friday, 23 April 2021 04:53 (two years ago) link

Starting to stress out about the danger to my students from being back in school in-person. My classroom door opens to the outside of the building, but we are supposed to close and lock our doors because we have a student who likes to escape from his classes and hide in random classrooms. Our in-person sessions are 70 minutes long, and I think most teachers just have their kids on the computer, working silently, during that time. But I've been having them talk to each other at a distance of six feet, since it's a language class and what we've been missing all year is the chance to talk in the target language. I'm starting to worry that I'm putting them at risk by having them talk, when that generates more particles and presumably more risk of infection. But I would feel awful if they came in just to sit at their computers - they wouldn't be getting any learning in exchange for the risk they're taking. Either way I feel like I'm doing harm.

We just finished our first week of classes, and one student who was in my Tuesday class mentioned yesterday (during remote class) that she now has a sore throat. It's hard not to feel a sense of dread and guilt: what if she got someone else sick while I was letting my students face toward each other and talk? I hate having so much potential weight on my tiny teaching decisions.

Lily Dale, Saturday, 24 April 2021 18:53 (two years ago) link

To state the obvious: it wasn't your decision to reopen. And even with the variants, I'm pretty sure serious illness in young people (I forget--I think you teach high school?) is still rare. They put you at risk.

clemenza, Saturday, 24 April 2021 20:37 (two years ago) link

I teach middle school. I worry more about their families, since Seattle only just opened up vaccine eligibility to everyone. I know it sounds like I'm finding reasons to stress out, but what worries me is knowing that I'm stretching the rules just by letting students turn toward each other to talk. It doesn't seem like it should make much difference, but I just hope I'm right about that, since it's a call I'm making as the teacher.

Lily Dale, Saturday, 24 April 2021 20:52 (two years ago) link

my school just started forcing kids back en masse two weeks ago and a kid i was working with 1 on 1 for 15 minutes literally tested COVID+ last that day. thankful we were masked and i was also vaxxed bc i remained negative, but there is this ambient dread looming over everything right now.

class project pat (m bison), Saturday, 24 April 2021 22:44 (two years ago) link

iow lily dale otm

class project pat (m bison), Saturday, 24 April 2021 22:44 (two years ago) link

Yeah but man alive’s kids can get out of his hair now so it’s fine right

Canon in Deez (silby), Saturday, 24 April 2021 23:49 (two years ago) link

lol shhhh you'll wake him

class project pat (m bison), Sunday, 25 April 2021 00:50 (two years ago) link

ugh i'm sorry, Lily and m bise. my school is private and has more money to deal with safety concerns than public schools, but i do identify with feeling like i'm in over my head in terms of making minute-by-minute decisions in the classroom to keep my students safe. also everything about social distancing is antithetical to effective teaching--i really struggle to stay in my seat (behind my nonsensical plexiglass).

horseshoe, Sunday, 25 April 2021 16:36 (two years ago) link

i think at my school returning to in person has been good for the kids socially, but i think they would be quick to agree that it's worse academically--i cannot figure out how to teach kids at home and in the room well at the same time, and the safety restrictions on the classroom make me feel like i'm trying to teach from a bubble to a bunch of kids enclosed in bubbles (i can't even see some of the kids through the damn plexiglass.

horseshoe, Sunday, 25 April 2021 16:39 (two years ago) link

the plexiglass is a joke, i never put mine up

class project pat (m bison), Sunday, 25 April 2021 16:40 (two years ago) link

it is absurd theater and i hate it

horseshoe, Sunday, 25 April 2021 16:42 (two years ago) link

my favorite is throughout the year how to guy taking temps at the door has had his mask off his nose at various points, its a fuckin joke

class project pat (m bison), Sunday, 25 April 2021 16:44 (two years ago) link

*how the guy

class project pat (m bison), Sunday, 25 April 2021 16:44 (two years ago) link

We're all back in the classroom so, mercifully, I don't have the lunacy of trying to teach the room and remotely at the same time. I do have the problem of 30 kids in a room though and, half-arsed safety measures aside, the sense that it's basically a lottery. I'm supposed to stay in my two-metre exclusion zone and mask up when I'm circulating (which is to be kept to a minimum) but I do get caught up and forget. Also, we have no mechanism for enforcing mask wearing with the kids, as it was only ever 'strongly advised' by the government. I'd say maybe 70‰ of kids are masked. We're all LFTing twice a week. We've had two cases since we've been back. It'll only increase.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Sunday, 25 April 2021 16:50 (two years ago) link

xp That sounds really rough, horseshoe. We don't have plexiglass, at least. And I walk around the classroom as per usual and just try to stay six feet away from everyone most of the time. It may well be that I'm supposed to stay glued to my desk, but the reopening was so rushed and the directions we've been given have are so vague that I honestly don't know. At this point, I'm trying not to ask too many questions.

Chinaski, that sounds nuts, I'm sorry you have to deal with that. We are constantly 100% masked to the point where the kids can't even pull down their mask to eat a snack in between classes, we have cohorts of no more than 15 per class, and I still worry about the risks.

Lily Dale, Sunday, 25 April 2021 16:57 (two years ago) link

I was doing remote yesterday for the music teacher at my old school. She has some K/1 coverage as part of her day, which includes dance. I hope my neighbor wasn't looking in when I was standing in front of the computer (and window) doing--or trying to do--this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LS89QO3U28

clemenza, Saturday, 8 May 2021 14:24 (two years ago) link

I hope the school board reimburses you for the pink cat costume.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 8 May 2021 15:45 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Unbelievably stressful: losing the internet when on a remote supply/substitute job. You've left behind ~25 kids who may, at that point, know what they're supposed to be doing or--if you're just about to start something--may not. Lost my connection twice this morning. Much colorful language. At least I'm with 7s and 8s today--even worse if it's young kids.

clemenza, Monday, 31 May 2021 18:19 (two years ago) link

Essentially, because the government have advertised the appeals process, and made school's liable, we have to have robust data to prove each student is entitled to the grade we award. We've had a month or so to turn ourselves into an exam board, desperately trying to retrofit data for purpose. So this week alone we've been moderating the 480 papers our Y11s sat in mid-May. We've marked them as a department (all anonymised), input the data onto a spreadsheet, moderated each other and changed any anomalies, re-entered data that needed altering, added names to the anonymised data and are now trying to match with data from across the last two years - with the aim of chucking out final grades that won't exceed previous years' by an amount that might trigger an investigation. All alongside our usual teaching and planning load (Y10 are preparing for end of year trials) and obviously for no extra money.

It goes without saying that as an English department we a) are under greater scrutiny as a core subject and b) simply don't have robust data in the way that STEM subjects do. We have student work but it's not marked in a way that generates neat summative data and anyway, it's not marked with this kind of end-goal in mind (and can't be adapted for purpose, really). It's been an extraordinary week already and there's still a shit ton to do before Friday's deadline. And our head could still kick our results to the kerb if he thinks they're lacking integrity or are too advanced on the previous five years.

The scale of stress and rage within our department is amazing.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 21:01 (two years ago) link

give everyone a's

class project pat (m bison), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 23:19 (two years ago) link

That sounds miserable. I'm so sorry you have to deal with that.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 10 June 2021 04:27 (two years ago) link

I think I taught the world's first trillionaire this morning: a kid in kindergarten who, for his sharing, had a chart with the main units of money from 20 different countries. He could pronounce most of them--Deutsche Mark gave him some trouble.

clemenza, Thursday, 10 June 2021 23:35 (two years ago) link

(Quadrillionaire, that is--my brain and my hands are often strangers.)

clemenza, Friday, 11 June 2021 00:35 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I only come here to moan... By the middle of this week: all of Y8 isolating, half of Y7, Y10 preparing for trial exams told to go on study leave because of an outbreak in their year group, 12 cases in Y9. Y11 have already left, so we're down to about 400 kids out of 1400 and about 25 staff are missing. Could this all just fuck off now please?

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 25 June 2021 17:59 (two years ago) link

And yet people keep repeating ad nauseam that Science Shows Outbreaks Don't Happen in Schools.

How much more of the school year is there where you are? We got done a week ago.

Lily Dale, Friday, 25 June 2021 18:07 (two years ago) link

Right? I guess we were pretty lucky in the run up to Christmas but this is madness. We're all double vaxxed but ffs.

School year finishes 23rd July unfortunately. Not even a whisper of closing early.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 25 June 2021 18:14 (two years ago) link

Science Shows Outbreaks Don't Happen in Schools is/was one of the most pernicious lies told during COVID.

DJI, Friday, 25 June 2021 18:15 (two years ago) link

Just signed off on my last remote supply/substitute job of the year. I enjoyed it at first. The last two or three weeks, no nearly as much--much apathy, especially in the older grades. Would be happy to never do another remote job in my life.

clemenza, Friday, 25 June 2021 18:34 (two years ago) link

We got done a week ago.

When do you go back?

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Friday, 25 June 2021 20:09 (two years ago) link

Last day for my partner. She is going drinking with the staff and told me not to wait up

xp Well, that depends on whether I can find a job for next year. They phased out the French program at the school I was teaching at, displacing me, then the school district decided they had too many French teachers and laid me off for real. I'm also endorsed in English, but the district has also been laying off English teachers this year, so the job market isn't looking so good. If I find another public school job I'll go back at the very end of August, otherwise, idk.

Lily Dale, Friday, 25 June 2021 21:47 (two years ago) link

Where I am, French or music always pretty much guaranteed you a job (and probably a choice of where you wanted to go).

clemenza, Friday, 25 June 2021 21:48 (two years ago) link

French is not all that popular here; I think it's seen as the elitist choice compared to Spanish. So when they had to cut costs at my school because they had lower enrollment than before, they chose the French program to get rid of.

Lily Dale, Friday, 25 June 2021 21:58 (two years ago) link

To be fair, it made sense if they were going to to cut a language program; there was a lot more demand for Spanish. But it's hard on the high schools that no longer have a feeder school for French, and it's hard on the heritage Spanish students who really do not want to be stuck in a middle school Spanish class.

Lily Dale, Friday, 25 June 2021 22:05 (two years ago) link

Languages and music are def not the route to job security in teaching in the USA lol

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 25 June 2021 22:16 (two years ago) link

French, as you might guess, is mandated here; not sure why qualified music teachers were always in short supply, but they were (at the elementary/intermediate level, anyway--not sure about high school).

clemenza, Friday, 25 June 2021 22:20 (two years ago) link

here in mexico city schools have been closed since march 2020, and from a purely selfish perspective i loved teaching from home and not having to deal with the awful traffic every day, plus having more time for myself to explore the city. sadly it's all coming to an end soon.

groovemaaan, Friday, 25 June 2021 22:37 (two years ago) link

it was pretty fun to see the students take advantage of online classes too - every week there was someone connecting from acapulco or cancun excited to show the class their hotel room.

groovemaaan, Friday, 25 June 2021 22:41 (two years ago) link

Yeah that was fun. I had students tuning in from Bolivia, Mexico, Taiwan, and down the street. Very weird and I do miss it 😢

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 25 June 2021 23:05 (two years ago) link

four weeks pass...

how do you fit in grammar, style, and usage lessons in a way that makes sense and has an impact? this is the area of my teaching that i want to improve this year. it's hard to make this stuff not seem boring and arbitrary.

treeship., Friday, 23 July 2021 21:37 (two years ago) link

i teach high school english by the way.

treeship., Friday, 23 July 2021 21:37 (two years ago) link

do some googling and find some cool videos -- this is basically what i taught (sentences and paragraphs) for 14 years and there is a lot more good stuff out there than there used to be

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 23 July 2021 21:40 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

How is the school year organised in the USA? I'm asking because in the various COVID-related threads I keep reading about American kids being at school in August when I had assumed they would be on their summer break. In England* the school year starts in the first week of September. There are three terms, each with a one-week half term holiday in the middle: September to December (then a two-week holiday around Christmas & New Year), January to Easter (then another two-week holiday), then Easter to mid/late July, followed by a break of about 6 weeks. Exams are usually around May.

*I won't say Britain because for all I know it's different in Scotland

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Monday, 23 August 2021 20:21 (two years ago) link

Used to be we went back to shoool in September and got out in June. Now the kids go in mid-to-late August, and get out in late May/early June. This is in the Bay Area. I don't think there are even rules within California let alone the whole country - I think every district gets to do what they want.

DJI, Monday, 23 August 2021 20:26 (two years ago) link

The administration of schools is highly localized in the USA. The starting day of the school year, along with the year's calendar of school days, holidays, planning days and parent-teacher conference days is most often set by the local school district and these vary widely.

it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Monday, 23 August 2021 20:28 (two years ago) link

Cheers

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Monday, 23 August 2021 20:29 (two years ago) link

school districts that start school before labor day are objectively incorrect about what summer is

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Monday, 23 August 2021 20:44 (two years ago) link

I've only taught in Alaska and in Seattle, but they're fairly different; Alaska starts its school year in mid-August and ends in May, with a winter break and a spring break. Seattle starts Sep. 1 and goes through June 21st, with a winter break, a mid-winter break and a spring break.

Lily Dale, Monday, 23 August 2021 21:04 (two years ago) link

Today was the first day back in the classroom! (I got hired back after being laid off by the district.) Man this is exhausting, and it's only been one day. Still getting used to the lack of lag. 50 minute classes used to feel so short when I had block scheduling, but after remote teaching, when 50 minute classes yielded about 30-35 minutes of usable lesson time, it now feels like omg I have so much time to fill.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 2 September 2021 04:45 (two years ago) link

my partner is in her first week in NYC; she says like a third of the teachers had some sort of flooding issue last night and are trying to juggle dealing with that at the same time as being in class.

three weeks pass...

I have this one class that goes badly about 50% of the time and I'm really starting to worry that it's getting too late to turn it around. The kids are super smart but rowdy, like to test authority, and loved their previous teacher, so they push back every chance they get, and I'm reluctant to start coming down hard on them because I know their previous class had a really warm positive vibe and I'm still hoping I can get there. But the reality is I'm not as experienced a French teacher as their previous teacher was, and I'm still getting a handle on what they know and don't know, and so this part of the year is just going to be me trying stuff and seeing if it works - which of course comes across as incompetence to them because they're smart middle-schoolers who live to judge adults. Today's class went really badly, and what's really frustrating is it didn't need to. The activity wasn't bad, I just hadn't quite calibrated it right for this class and I'd left too many opportunities for them to get distracted, and they took all of them.

Lily Dale, Monday, 27 September 2021 21:26 (two years ago) link

I wish I were better adjusted and didn't react to bad classes with this panic spiral of "I am a bad teacher and I won't be able to come up with a good plan to get out of this hole I'm in because I am a bad teacher."

Lily Dale, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 00:12 (two years ago) link

It's supposed to be a reflective profession...I'd always take bad days and disastrous lessons home with me. Usually things get better just because things usually get better.

clemenza, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 00:54 (two years ago) link

I wish I were better adjusted and didn't react to bad classes with this panic spiral of "I am a bad teacher and I won't be able to come up with a good plan to get out of this hole I'm in because I am a bad teacher."

as an alternative to just gritting your teeth through it, remember your reaction to things can change for the better (as well as your class!) but only YOU can do it -- you need to focus on noticing when the panic spiral starts and shutting it tf down. it's possible, it's work, and u can do it!! :) don't let a job eat you alive. i am here to post this as many times as i need to.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 13:59 (two years ago) link

Real bad teachers really dgaf when their classes are going badly.

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 14:02 (two years ago) link

Thank you all!

Lily Dale, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 14:17 (two years ago) link

LL is right, Lily Dale— and just a reminder that we all have off days, and to be kind to yourself.

I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 16:20 (two years ago) link

Thanks, everyone. I really appreciate the pep talk. I had a talk with the class today - "I'm not happy with yesterday's class, part of that's on me, but part of it's on you, let's talk about expectations," and then switched up my plans for the next couple of weeks, because I can tell they're sick of review, and jumped into a new unit that they seem to be on board with. And it all went pretty well! It's sometimes hard for me to remember that I'm not a first-year teacher anymore and I actually have the skills to pull the class out of a slump if I can just chill out enough to hear myself think.

Lily Dale, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 22:57 (two years ago) link

That' great to hear, Lily. I also have found that especially with teens and younger people, sometimes actually acknowledging that things aren't working and having a conversation about it can yield a much better dynamic.

I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 16:21 (two years ago) link

I think so much of being a teacher is working out your boundaries and that can take months, even years. The corollary of that is certain lessons (indeed, whole classes over whole terms/school years - I have the scars!) that can collapse around you - particularly in the early years. I don't know that there's a shortcut for it. It's that old saw that you 'can't learn experience'. It sounds like you've handled it well. A reset, a re-drawing of your expectations and a new topic can work (small) wonders, I think.

I also think you just grow a thicker skin with this stuff; as time passes, you're less likely to catastrophise and will just shrug those lessons off because in the grand scheme of things...

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 17:39 (two years ago) link

This won't really help you--you seem to have righted the ship anyway--but something I wrote on the board two or three times after particularly awful days. It's a quote from Earl Weaver: "We do this every day." And I'd talk about it--no matter what happened yesterday, you get to come back the next day and try it again. The thing that makes teaching so hard is also the thing that sooner or later fixes the problem.

clemenza, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 17:47 (two years ago) link

Right— when I was adjuncting, I had a class that collapsed around me in spring 2018, but luckily I was also teaching another course at the time that was one of the better courses I'd ever taught, up to that point. The collapsed class still made me feel horrid, but much of the fault there can be laid upon working with a crap syllabus that someone else wrote (not my choice!) and two students in a class of 20 who made sure to be disruptive every chance they got. I failed more students that semester than I ever had previously, and blamed it on myself for awhile, but no more.

I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 17:48 (two years ago) link

^This.

xp That's great clemenza. I'm going to steal the quote and your reading of it for the teaching book I'll never write.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 17:55 (two years ago) link

My day. I have a new tutor group. 31 11yr olds every morning. They were berating today for not wearing a tie because it made me look 'informal'. Fine. One kid looks at me thoughtfully and says 'you look like a dad who's given up'. Oof. Skewered. Utterly.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 17:58 (two years ago) link

Christ, look at that post. Can you tell I've been teaching minor sentences?

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 17:58 (two years ago) link

I think it also sends a message to the students, who, starting in the junior grades, will get it: no matter what you throw at me, I will be back here tomorrow. (Weaver was talking about the difference between baseball and football: "This ain't a football game, we do this every day.")

clemenza, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 18:04 (two years ago) link

important article about professional burnout, passion for one's work and my favorite scale for measuring burnout, the MBI. recommended reading!!!!

https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2021/09/10692458/burnout-work-millennials-ambition-scam

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 1 October 2021 20:40 (two years ago) link

I am not a teacher but we got a message from kid's high schools saying "we know there's a Tik Tok "slap your teacher" challenge, please be advised that if you slap a teacher you're getting expelled" -- jesus, teachers, is this a real thing, are kids slapping you for Tik Tok clout, or is this a bizarre moral panic about something that doesn't exist?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 1 October 2021 20:42 (two years ago) link

i heard someone else mention it too -- i think it is a thing (i do not teach k-12 so i did not get slapped)

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 1 October 2021 20:43 (two years ago) link

Thanks for that, LL. Needed it today, which is my last day freelancing for a company I've been working for on and off since the year began. At first I was really worried about not having a job, and then I realized: oh shit, I get to have my birthday (on Monday) to do what I want, for the first time in YEARS. I'm going to do things I want to do! It's going to be great.

In other words, I have often preached the sort of lessons that this article is offering, namely that work can be joyous and fun, but that no matter what, it is still *work*, and it cannot be the center of one's existence.

I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Friday, 1 October 2021 20:57 (two years ago) link

make it the center of your existence at your peril

this part from the beginning resonated w me having been laid off and subsequently devastated

Being jobless, then, isn't only difficult because of the financial instability — it's also a kind of social death. As such, the fate of the jobless — the attendant derision or pity is often used as a cautionary tale. And the warning works: Most of us are terrified of losing our livelihoods.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 1 October 2021 21:06 (two years ago) link

who is a teacher who is not teaching? ;_;

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 1 October 2021 21:08 (two years ago) link

The Tik Tok challenge is sort of a thing, but it remains to be seen how much of one. September's challenge was to vandalize school bathrooms and steal from the school, and a bunch of our bathrooms did get vandalized and my key card got stolen. I guess the Tik Tok stars behind this have rolled out another set of challenges and October's is "slap a teacher," but my guess is that kids who are willing to anonymously trash a bathroom are going to be much less inclined to hit their teachers and hopefully the whole thing will fizzle out.

Lily Dale, Friday, 1 October 2021 23:23 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

The 50-day supply limit is back in place for retired teachers where I am. It was lifted last year, and I ended up doing ~80+ days, mostly remote. I was hoping they'd lift it again. I'd supply virtually every day if I could.

This perplexes teacher friends of mine: "Why would you want to keep doing this if you retired?" The first answer is simple, and they get this part: I still like being in the classroom, I just couldn't take any more staff meetings, reports, parent interviews, or never-ending curriculum revisions and preposterous new gimmicks (Growth Mindset! Transformation Practices! Etc.!).

The other answer, though--underscored by a class where I've supplied three times this year--is that I can take a day or a couple of days of certain kinds of students, but that's my limit now; the idea of having to go back every single day knowing X and Y will be sitting there wore me out after a while. There are two guys in particular in this one class (a 5/6). The first is the guy who just does and says one silly thing after another; he can't help himself. The other is the guy who has to blurt out every thought that crosses his mind. Sometimes they trade places: during a slide show I was presenting today, the guy who blurts out fell out of his chair not once but twice. Their teacher has asked if I can fill in for the rest of the week: I committed to tomorrow and Thursday, but I'm looking for a excuse to pass on Friday. Two days of such students is pretty much my limit now.

clemenza, Wednesday, 10 November 2021 02:44 (two years ago) link

xp

After ten years in grad school limbo (oh the places I go!), I started working as a special ed aide in a high school's autism program a couple of weeks ago. One of the kids got triggered by water last week and ended up socking me in the head and shoulder, but I think it was a psychotic episode rather than the result of a TikTok challenge.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 03:27 (two years ago) link

We also had a destroyed toilet, reportedly.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 03:28 (two years ago) link

I get a surprise four day weekend this week! We were supposed to have just Thursday off, but so many teachers requested leave for Friday that with our sub shortage there weren't enough subs to cover it all, so they're just closing school for the day. I've worked through every weekend since school started, so this is unheard-of luxury.

Lily Dale, Wednesday, 10 November 2021 04:24 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

This is pretty corny, I know, but it's also pretty great.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2021/12/24/third-grade-teacher-makes-full-court-shot-smerconish-intv-ctn-vpx.cnn

The thing that makes me laugh is that this teacher is going to have zero problems with this class for the rest of the year; she's god and Superwoman and the most famous Tik Tok/Instagram/YouTube superstar all rolled into one. She'll be pretty much walking on water from now till June (and probably beyond).

clemenza, Friday, 24 December 2021 11:12 (two years ago) link

my partner does admin work for a brooklyn charter school and is telling me that 65% of her parents have moved into full on "let me speak to your manager" mode

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Monday, 3 January 2022 16:13 (two years ago) link

I am getting increasingly nervous about going back to work tomorrow - not fear of covid, but just the sense of not knowing what's coming next and whether I'll have full classes or half the class out or a sudden switch to remote teaching or what. I'm figuring I should make two slideshows & lesson sequences for each class - one with the actual lesson, the other with a game of Mafia in case half the class is gone.

Lily Dale, Monday, 3 January 2022 16:23 (two years ago) link

Premier of Ontario is speaking right now; looks like he's moving from a two-day delay (a ridiculous half-measure) to two weeks. He's giving everyone less than 48 hours notice--parents need to arrange for daycare, teachers need to revamp whatever plans they had for online. I also got an e-mail this morning saying the 50-day supply limit for retired teachers has again been bumped to 95 days; they're obviously expecting a ton of absences, even with the move online.

clemenza, Monday, 3 January 2022 16:32 (two years ago) link

We got today off for voluntary rapid testing for everyone. I wonder if this is just so they can catch as many cases as possible and have a ton of absences, or if they will switch to remote/ delay the start if they get a certain number of positive results.

Lily Dale, Monday, 3 January 2022 16:46 (two years ago) link

I always forget where you are...

clemenza, Monday, 3 January 2022 16:51 (two years ago) link

I'm in Seattle. This fall went fine, apart from a sub shortage, but the sub shortage is such that I really don't know how we're going to deal with staff absences during this surge. Who would want to sub right now?

Lily Dale, Monday, 3 January 2022 16:55 (two years ago) link

I'd be fine going in if I hadn't had to cancel my booster. In Ontario, they were taking people out of various teachers colleges to supply last winter--I don't think they've yet reached that stage again, but it may follow.

clemenza, Monday, 3 January 2022 16:58 (two years ago) link

That's a point, I suppose we'll get a few subs who are boosted, but they've already been drafting teachers to sub during their prep time, and even with that they had to close school on the Friday after Veterans' Day because there wasn't enough coverage. So it's hard to be full steam ahead with planning when I don't really know what to plan for.

Lily Dale, Monday, 3 January 2022 17:11 (two years ago) link

It looks like the school closure here (Ontario) is on a collision course in the next week or so, before the scheduled return on Jan. 17.

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/group-of-ontario-parents-boycott-remote-learning-in-the-face-of-new-public-health-restrictions-1.5732260

https://www.cp24.com/news/pediatrician-groups-call-for-ontario-schools-to-reopen-no-later-than-jan-17-1.5732019

https://globalnews.ca/video/8497509/ontario-faces-pressure-to-reopen-schools-as-virtual-learning-takes-toll-on-kids-parents

My assumption at first was that we'd be out for a month, maybe longer, but I'm not sure now. Based on my three days of remote supply last week, I can attest to the fact that the schools are a mess. There was no dayplan for any of the three days. The first day was for a teacher who'd been off for a month, without an LTO ever being hired; two of the four Google Meet codes I was given in the morning didn't work and had to be resent, and the period 7 Google Meet was empty. (And no one ever returned my e-mail with an explanation.) The the second day I got the call at 9:10, half an hour into the day; I'm not even sure what that means. I was back with the same class the next day, and it actually went well--great group of kids (grade 2), improbably still really keen. But they were the exception--I spent a month teaching zombie-kids last spring, and I'm sure I'll encounter that again very soon. All in all, my sense is one of all parties--parents, students, teachers--starting to give up.

clemenza, Sunday, 9 January 2022 03:49 (two years ago) link

It's really starting to get to me. I needed to spend all weekend working to try to catch up and plan for the next week, and today I was just crushed by exhaustion and couldn't do anything. It's a bad sign when you know you're going to be behind for the week because you couldn't spend your Saturday working. And there's still that uncertainty of not knowing if we might suddenly go remote, or how many students will be out if we're in person. And knowing that unless I get Covid I can't take a day off because there's no one to cover for me.

Lily Dale, Sunday, 9 January 2022 05:08 (two years ago) link

this is not a real school year

class project pat (m bison), Sunday, 9 January 2022 15:40 (two years ago) link

im not trying to be glib bc this year is so fucked up (and last year too), i think we should all just recognize that this is not real, planning is not real, grading is not real, you just do your best and get some rest and charge the rest to the game. i love doing this too much to let how terrible this all is to deprive me of future joys, so im just not working hard at all out of self preservation.

class project pat (m bison), Sunday, 9 January 2022 15:45 (two years ago) link

Thank you and I didn't think you were being glib at all. I think I'm just so new to secondary teaching that I'm losing all sense of what a real school year even is. I had one year of full-time teaching, accompanied by burnout, followed by a year of subbing that turned into the start of the pandemic, followed by a year of remote teaching and now this. I don't really know how to measure this against previous years.

Lily Dale, Sunday, 9 January 2022 15:49 (two years ago) link

yeah this is all weird and fucked up, i mean "normal" years have their own weirdness and fuckedupness but you learn year to year how to anticipate and contingency plan for that and in the meantime you can still do extracurricular stuff and not have people's sloppy mask-wearing habits (including coworkers for fucks sake) as a constant strain. this is my 12th year of teaching all at the same campus fwiw.

class project pat (m bison), Sunday, 9 January 2022 15:53 (two years ago) link

(xpost) I agree with all of that (which is, admittedly, easier for me to say since retiring from full-time). I'd aim to keep the kids engaged as much as possible, get as much curriculum as you can in there without worrying in the least about keeping up, clear time every day for the students to do whatever it is they like best, and remind them every so often that this will end eventually. I felt good Friday in that I'd taught this grade 2 class to use Google Draw and how to format an acrostic poem on a Google Doc; with younger kids, you can try to show them all kinds of apps and programs they've never used. Much harder with older kids, obviously.

clemenza, Sunday, 9 January 2022 15:55 (two years ago) link

m bise otm

any rhetoric your admin may be giving you, Lily, about the need to give even more of yourself is bullshit cover for keeping the economy churning. Normal learning is not possible under these conditions. You’re a teacher, not a martyr. Take care of yourself!

horseshoe, Sunday, 9 January 2022 16:05 (two years ago) link

hi horseshoeeeeeee!!!!

class project pat (m bison), Sunday, 9 January 2022 16:07 (two years ago) link

<3 hope you and your fam are weathering this nonsense okay, m bise

horseshoe, Sunday, 9 January 2022 16:11 (two years ago) link

likewise friend!!

class project pat (m bison), Sunday, 9 January 2022 16:27 (two years ago) link

That's a really important message to hear again and again m. bison and I have to keep telling myself that. I'm pretty close to burnout myself. I have only been doing it for five years and have lost sight of 'normal' if indeed I have ever really had it.

Someone unthinkingly offered me a job over Christmas. The job is irrelevant (marketing!) but my readiness to say yes to him (actually, cuddle him, chew his arm off) made me realise just how close to the edge I was. I honestly think I'd jump now, given the chance.

Lily, you're in a shitty organisation there, and not getting the right messages or support. I'd say hang in there and keep looking for ways out. And as m.bison says, although it doesn't feel like it now, the job is worth fighting for.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Sunday, 9 January 2022 17:31 (two years ago) link

Thanks everyone. Honestly I think a lot of it is coming from me. There are some weeks where I feel like I know how to do a good job for my students, and then weeks like this one where I feel like I don't have it in me to give them the level of teaching they deserve. I don't feel like I'm getting extraordinary pressure from admin - as a part-time teacher in an elective subject, early in my career, I think I actually get a lot of slack. But I have expectations for myself and I haven't figured out how to deal with the times when I don't meet them.

Anyway, lots of sympathy and solidarity to everyone who's teaching right now. It's good to hear from all of you.

Lily Dale, Sunday, 9 January 2022 19:04 (two years ago) link

weeks like this one where I feel like I don't have it in me to give them the level of teaching they deserve

The absolute worst feeling, the one time--when I switched grades and our school moved into another building temporarily--where I sought outside help/medication. Either it or just time worked; after a couple months, that feeling went away.

clemenza, Monday, 10 January 2022 01:23 (two years ago) link

Looks like we're headed back to in-person on Monday.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-students-in-person-learning-monday-january-17-1.6310451

clemenza, Tuesday, 11 January 2022 02:28 (two years ago) link

"We need staff in order to continue providing live teacher-led remote learning and safely operate our schools when students return to in-person learning," Lecce's statement read. "That is why we have now secured an agreement with the Ontario Teachers' Federation that will deliver access to thousands of teacher-qualified educators that will help keep schools open and safe."

Part of that is that they lifted the 50-day supply limit on retired teachers like me and pushed it back up to 95 days, like last year. My head is room-sized right now; I feel like I single-handedly saved the whole school year.

clemenza, Tuesday, 11 January 2022 02:43 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Next week is the start of the new semester. Usually we get a day off between semesters (today), but since they had to cancel school the Friday after Veterans' Day, they made it a makeup day, so it's a regular week of school and we don't have any work time for grading.

Despite that, I was planning on going to Chicago this weekend to see the Vulgar Boatmen - leaving Saturday, getting back Sunday. I was worried about whether I could manage that because I've been exhausted lately, but was planning on doing it anyway because I haven't gone on a trip or heard live music since the start of the pandemic.

But two days ago the directive came down from admin that next week is Black Lives Matter Week and we have to create content-specific BLM-related lessons for every day of the week. It's a fine idea in itself but there is NO TIME. They sent out some material and pre-designed lessons for a range of content areas; I don't know how useful those are, but it's moot because none of them are for my content area.

I don't think I can go to Chicago now. I want to and I haven't completely given up hope, but - how??? I'm exhausted and I don't even know what I'm doing for class tomorrow, so the idea that I'm going to come up with five days of culturally sensitive material on issues of race in the Francophone world without working through the weekend seems nuts.

And these are the admin who will lecture us about the importance of self-care and not letting yourself burn out.

Lily Dale, Friday, 28 January 2022 02:57 (two years ago) link

I used to love it when we'd devote a staff meeting to self-care and avoiding burn out. "If you want to help me, let me go home right after school--being here an extra hour-plus is not helping my mental outlook."

Meanwhile, I was in a K class the other day where there was a kid who screamed, full throttle, for 30% of the day, which they told me was normal. The rest of the time he played fine. There were two EAs in the room, and they spend most of their day, every day, with him. I'm guessing it costs the province an additional ~$75,000 to attend to this one student. What else can you do?

clemenza, Friday, 28 January 2022 03:47 (two years ago) link

this week has really sucked.

One of my French 1 classes has discipline and morale issues, and while I do my best to keep redirecting kids and addressing issues as they come up, I haven't been good about calling parents and emailing counselors and actually making sure there are hard consequences for being disruptive in class. As a result, students are dispirited and negative about the class and their own progress, and about me as a teacher. It's a big class - 32 kids - in a tiny room, and a lot of them would really enjoy the class given a smaller class size, a different group of kids, or even a bigger room, but they don't know that.

It's the week that students sign up for classes for next year, and so I'm in the shitty position of trying to convince them to sign up for French 2, and I've got a bunch of them telling me they don't want to, with the implication that I suck at my job and I've made them not like French.

And I know it's really just that class that's negative and I'll probably have quite a few signing up from my first period. So I'll probably have enough for one French 2 class, which is what we had this year, which is pretty much to be expected. But it's depressing and makes me feel like shit about my abilities.

Lily Dale, Friday, 11 February 2022 01:57 (two years ago) link

I mean this in the best possible way, not glibly: "Take it easy, Jake--it's COVID." These last two years are complete write-offs. They say nothing about what kind of teacher you are, or what kind of teacher you'll be when things return to some semblance of normal. You have to get through it day-to-day, I know, but don't draw any conclusions about what they think about you as a teacher.

(I should follow my own advice--I got down last spring when it was like former students didn't even know me.)

clemenza, Friday, 11 February 2022 02:29 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Had a grade 6/7 class today. The day plan alerted me anger issues this one guy had, and not to engage if he went off.

He had a good morning, and he was fine in gym too, even playing dodgeball, which can be highly competitive. (Not my choice by the way--dodgeball from a supply teacher is a long-standing cliche. I wanted to do basketball, they wanted dodgeball.) Right at the end, though, this guy got hit with a (nerf) ball that someone was tossing into mesh bag. And he indeed went off. The transformation is hard to describe, but if he'd had access to a knife, I think he would have cut me up right there. Thankfully, he just stood there in the middle of the guy, shaking, while another student retrieved the VP. He was back in class 20 minutes later, settled down.

I don't really get this, from either a medical or psychological standpoint. Is it an overload of neurons firing off? It was scary, and it was over nothing.

clemenza, Thursday, 3 March 2022 01:50 (two years ago) link

Um…

Gary Gets His Tonsure Out (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 3 March 2022 20:58 (two years ago) link

That doesn't really tell me anything.

clemenza, Thursday, 3 March 2022 21:15 (two years ago) link

You don't have any framework with which to understand anger issues or you don't understand this particular kid's behavior?

Gary Gets His Tonsure Out (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 3 March 2022 21:20 (two years ago) link

I don't understand what causes a 12-year-old kid to experience murderous rage over getting nicked by a nerf ball. I sincerely don't, else I wouldn't be asking. (Is my memory of my own classmates at that age selective enough that I don't remember going to school with such kids? Because I don't.)

clemenza, Thursday, 3 March 2022 21:24 (two years ago) link

I mean I understand anger issues up to a point, obviously, I have them myself. This is something different.

clemenza, Thursday, 3 March 2022 21:25 (two years ago) link

Anything in the file about that kid's home life?

Gary Gets His Tonsure Out (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 3 March 2022 21:27 (two years ago) link

There's a good chance that it's neurological. Frontal lobe damage can cause this.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 3 March 2022 21:27 (two years ago) link

I'm a supply these days--I'm sure there is, but nothing I would have access to.

When I taught full-time, I had any number of kids who had difficult home lives for all sorts of reasons. In 20 years, I don't think I ever encountered in my own classes what I saw yesterday--maybe I just got lucky.

(CGLDI: thanks, that makes sense.)

clemenza, Thursday, 3 March 2022 21:30 (two years ago) link

I know someone who occasionally explodes over very minor issues, like screaming violent threats over a minor slight. Its quite scary in the moment. The next day they will be remorseful. No idea what causes it.

o. nate, Thursday, 3 March 2022 21:31 (two years ago) link

I spoke to him briefly about 15 minutes after he returned to class, said something like "I'm pretty sure that was an accident," and he was calm. Before he returned, I spoke to the class and said if you know _______ can be set off like that, you have to be extra careful about tossing stuff around when putting away equipment. They were really good about handling the situation, but I guess they need periodic reminders about that.

clemenza, Thursday, 3 March 2022 21:35 (two years ago) link

This is purely anecdotal, but I've taken care of both people with mental issues/deficiencies and people with neurological issues, and I've noticed a kind of eerie calm that accompanies behavior incidents by the latter that doesn't happen with meltdowns/triggerings from the former. It's like their soul leaves their body temporarily.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 3 March 2022 21:43 (two years ago) link

If I had to guess, that would be mine, the second--he really did look like this was beyond his control (and that trying to talk to him in the moment, which I did initially--very calmly--was pointless and even counter-productive). He did seem to have acquired one coping mechanism: he just stood in the middle of the gym until the VP arrived.

I go to this school regularly. It occurred to me later that this particular student was probably the reason for many of the lockdowns the school has initiated while I've been there (which just means classroom doors are closed for 10-15 minutes and no one can leave the room).

clemenza, Thursday, 3 March 2022 22:00 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

A retired teacher in Ontario is allowed 50 supply/substitute days. During the pandemic, that was bumped to 95. I thought that was a hard cap, but because my 95th day will fall right at the beginning of May, I can continue working for the rest of the month. Which means by the end of the year, I'll have done ~110 days--almost 2/3 of a full school year. (I really got hit at tax time for teaching ~85 days last year.)

I'm happy about this--I still like being in the classroom--but I really hope I don't get too many calls for intermediate the rest of the way. It feels like the pandemic has affected them much worse than young kids--there's this real us-vs.-you thing right now, worse than what you normally get with intermediates. (And it doesn't seem to be reserved for supply teachers, either.)

The affect on young kids won't be known for a few years; it'll probably be worse, either socially or academically or both.

clemenza, Monday, 25 April 2022 03:32 (one year ago) link

Effect, that is. Teacher here.

clemenza, Monday, 25 April 2022 03:33 (one year ago) link

I'm a terrible ILX poster these days; I only seem to post when I have some mildly shitty life event to bitch about. Sorry everyone.

But basically I got laid off AGAIN a month or two ago because my school decided to phase out the French program. I just had my first interview for an English position, at a school I really wanted to teach at, and I was so nervous I completely bombed it. This sucks and I'm really tempted to take this as a sign that I should just get out of this damn profession but I don't know what else I can do.

Lily Dale, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 03:30 (one year ago) link

<3 i dont have advice, just a fellow teacher offering my support from across the internet

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 4 May 2022 04:12 (one year ago) link

Thank you!

Lily Dale, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 04:46 (one year ago) link

Sorry to hear all that. So different here...They can't fill the jobs that are open. I get e-mail every night with anywhere from five to 20 LTOs open (two boards).

clemenza, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 17:25 (one year ago) link

Especially French, I think.

clemenza, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 17:25 (one year ago) link

i'm sorry, Lily, and i completely understand if you want to move on to another profession, but you'd make a great English teacher!

horseshoe, Thursday, 5 May 2022 14:41 (one year ago) link

Agreed, Lily!

It seems I might be back to adjuncting uni again in the fall, at a local arts college’s creative writing program.

I realized that while I worked hard hard and made some good money last year doing medical editing, my most potent creative moments were when I had more time to myself. With the workshops and other work I do on the side, I should be fine— sometimes I just need to remind myself that there isn’t one path, and I’m not trying to build a career, just support my other pursuits.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Friday, 6 May 2022 22:53 (one year ago) link

Thank you, everyone! I don't think I'm being hired this round of interviews, though I got a friendly "we liked your interview and encourage you to reapply if there's another opening" rejection call today, which is slightly encouraging.

What this is all telling me is that it's time to start saying no to the French jobs, which just keep demanding a ton of prep time and taking me further away from teaching English. That might mean a year of subbing or adjuncting, but after pandemic teaching I wouldn't mind a more low-key year to recharge.

Table, I know exactly what you mean, and that's about where I am too. Sometimes you just need a job that doesn't soak up all your energy. Adjuncting creative writing sounds fun - do you like it? I've only taught composition classes.

Lily Dale, Saturday, 7 May 2022 00:40 (one year ago) link

Are teachers in a perpetual discussion about 'leaving the profession'? It certainly feels that way sometimes.

I'm considering my position at the moment - mainly because of what Lily said about needing a 'job that doesn't soak up all your energy'. I've always found it exhausting - physically, emotionally - but since I had covid back in October, I'm dragging my sorry arse through the week; by Friday, I'm running on empty and my weekends are a write-off. This Friday was kind of humiliating, really - one of those days when you have nothing in the tank, the kids sense it and walk all over you. Cue a weekend of introspection and blah blah blah.

Anyway, that's me at the moment. This probably feels like a luxury when you're looking for a job, so apologies there. All the best with your search Lily. Don't lose heart!

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Sunday, 8 May 2022 09:27 (one year ago) link

In the upcoming Ontario election, one of the parties is promising to reinstate grade 13, which would require an additional 10,000 teachers. When asked where they'd find them, the response was that there are currently 70 or 80 thousand teachers who are certified but not teaching, many of them because they've been ill-treated by the current government and have left the profession; they'll be able to get 10,000 to return.

clemenza, Sunday, 8 May 2022 13:58 (one year ago) link

My sympathies, Chinaski, and I hope the fatigue lessens soon. I'm in much the same state, really. I don't know if what I had a couple months ago was covid or not, but it was followed by some pretty severe fatigue that's better but not gone. Teaching has always felt a bit like being two people - Teaching Persona and Me - but it now feels like there's only enough energy for one of them and Teaching Persona gets all of it.

So if anything, it feels like a luxury to have the potential prospect of a doing a year of something else and then coming back, without having to sacrifice an established position in order to do it.

Lily Dale, Sunday, 8 May 2022 14:13 (one year ago) link

Yeah, Lily and Chinaski, it really is about energy and also engagement for me— when I’m reading tons of poetry and student work, I am also much more interested in pursuing my own work. When I’m doing other kinds of work, poetry feels more like a funny hobby.

I love facilitating creative writing workshops. I venture to say it is what I am best at as an educator— creating an environment where students feel free to make the things they want to make, as well as giving them permission to push boundaries.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Sunday, 8 May 2022 14:38 (one year ago) link

Yeah that's a really good point, and it's one thing I've been missing since I switched from teaching English to French. I don't write for publication, or write very much by the standards of anyone who is writing for publication, but I do write, and it's important to me, and teaching French seems to divert that particular creative channel.

Lily Dale, Sunday, 8 May 2022 20:04 (one year ago) link

Yeah that balance is important to me, and as I try to recover from the grief and loss of being laid off, it's important for me to be able to make money without the emotional investment of teaching.
Today/tomorrow I am grading my final project podcasts (that I have 72 hours to complete/turn in final grades) and have to take a break to go work at my other job waiting tables, where I have no prep work or any work outside working hours whatsoever. It's neither good nor bad, it just is the way it is.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Sunday, 8 May 2022 20:35 (one year ago) link

*being laid off from my longtime FT teaching job

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Sunday, 8 May 2022 20:37 (one year ago) link

Collected field-trip forms for a teacher today, and the students had to fill out a Google Form pertaining to an upcoming dance; tomorrow I'm with a class that's doing Jump Rope for Heart. Actually feels like school.

clemenza, Friday, 20 May 2022 03:57 (one year ago) link

Next week I start what will hopefully be a long term gig, instructing a few 1-hr classes in creative writing to young teens (middle school aged). Mostly 2nd or 3rd gen Chinese students living in the Bay. Seems like the parental terrain might be a little fraught, but judging from the sample classes I watched, the kids are pretty all right and into what’s going on.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Friday, 20 May 2022 11:15 (one year ago) link

Le table, if this sounds like a ballache no probs at all, but I'm shit at teaching the creative writing element of our Language GCSE - do you have any useful tips/places to look/texts etc?

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 20 May 2022 11:39 (one year ago) link

I mostly know poetry. One book that contains a lot of different prompts and ideas re: poetry is this volume: http://www.matthewjohnburgess.com/new-page

It also does a good job of mixing contemporary poetry with older poems, which is essential when teaching poetry— can't have students thinking there are no poets any longer.

As far as my own strategies, so much isn't taught any longer, so that I often spend an hour-long session going through basics like euphony and cacophony, another session going through metaphor, another going through parataxis, etc. We also read a lot of poems aloud and listen to/watch poets read their poems so that the kids feel they're more alive.

Another good strategy for getting things started is picking a quote that might be related to the lesson of the day, even if the quote is from someone who isn't a poet or fiction writer or whatever. Having kids talk about what they think the quote means and how it means what it means gets their brains moving in a creative direction, so that the segue into talking about poems— whether their own or someone else's— is easier.

I have some other strategies, too, but I should mention that one of my big things from the beginning of *any* class is to inform students that it is an okay space to get weird and really be *creative* with language...good poetry isn't staid or stuffy!

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Friday, 20 May 2022 13:40 (one year ago) link

I forgot to say thank you for this, Tabes! Some really interesting ideas. So much is about trying to get people to 'forget themselves' in some way - get past the barrier that they're awful at it etc and a lot of these techniques are about making the process exploratory or whatever. Thanks again.

Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Monday, 30 May 2022 11:42 (one year ago) link

seven months pass...

Telling sign that your math text may be out of date: the one in front of me, in the data unit, has a graph of the year's top-selling albums:

1. Rockinghorse, Alannah Myles
2. Reckless, Bryan Adams
3. Greatest Hits, Anne Murray
4. Boy in the Box, Corey Hart
5. The Thin Red Line, Glass Tiger

(Also a telling sign the school may be in Canada.)

clemenza, Thursday, 26 January 2023 18:02 (one year ago) link

I detect some dissimulation on the part of the publishers: there's no way Corey Hart's 1985 album was still selling that well in 1992, when the Alannah Myles album came out.
Just find 2023 versions of those artists to enlighten your students: e.g. Bryan Adams = Drake.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 26 January 2023 18:17 (one year ago) link

Mathpower Eight--the front page with the copyright has been ripped out. Does sound suspect (though I don't doubt the Anne Murray album might still be hanging around).

clemenza, Thursday, 26 January 2023 18:27 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

i heard from a teacher friend that the librarian in their school was tasked with making posters for black history month highlighting black scientists and this guy made them using AI art generators rather than, you know, using pictures of ACTUAL BLACK SCIENTISTS. He apparently doesn't understand the problem.

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 14 February 2023 05:15 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

The high school music club has started a Music League and one of my students invited me to join. I can't express the level of pride and responsibility I feel at being invited into the high school music nerd space.

Lily Dale, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 23:39 (one year ago) link

yayyyyy!! that sounds so much fun!

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Thursday, 30 March 2023 00:45 (one year ago) link

Some parent from the board I teach with was posting on Facebook today about how her kid's school won't allow the students to take soccer balls (or any kind of ball) out at recess. This is preposterous. I can guarantee that what she's talking about are days when the field is out of bounds because of weather, and everyone's confined to the hardtop. On those days, sure, the school will likely say "No soccer" because of safety.

Some of the comments have pointed this out, but of course some of them are like "The inmates are running the asylum."

Did you know that some people hate teachers?

clemenza, Thursday, 30 March 2023 01:20 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Just the kind of email you want to get from the homeroom teacher the day before:

Thank you for picking up my job. I am going to warn you this is a tough crew. I have a few kids who like to express themselves through behaviour.

I am in the office as Teacher in Charge so you can call if you need me.

Here are a few notes to get you going: I am trying to paint a clear picture here for you...this looks overwhelming though (sorry).

...followed by notes on 12 (!) students I have to be aware of.

If I don't make it back, tell the world my story.

clemenza, Sunday, 16 April 2023 19:17 (one year ago) link

The punchline: not middle school, grade 3/4.

clemenza, Sunday, 16 April 2023 19:18 (one year ago) link

oh lord

horseshoe, Sunday, 16 April 2023 19:29 (one year ago) link

Glad the teacher told me up front; lowered expectations help. The really bad thing is that it looks like rain the entire day, meaning I can't bribe them with outdoor time, and also that they very likely won't even get their regular recesses.

clemenza, Sunday, 16 April 2023 19:34 (one year ago) link

doesn't everyone like to express themselves through behaviour

symsymsym, Sunday, 16 April 2023 19:35 (one year ago) link

I think she's euphemizing.

clemenza, Sunday, 16 April 2023 19:46 (one year ago) link

Wasn't all that bad. Sent one kid out early (the homeroom teacher was TIC--"teacher in charge"--so she was there), basically fine after that. But I can see where this'd be a tough class every day.

clemenza, Monday, 17 April 2023 23:19 (one year ago) link

I'm hoping one day (wish I'd done it myself before retiring) a teacher leaves me a dayplan that just says "Be afraid--be very afraid."

clemenza, Tuesday, 18 April 2023 01:26 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

I had to leave early today for a doctor's appointment, so I set up my last class with their project before leaving them with the sub. As I was trying to give them the overview, they were like, "Why are you leaving? Are you going to see Bruce Springsteen again?" I told them it was a doctor's appointment, and one of them was like, "Ok hear me out. WHAT IF...you walk into the doctor's office and Bruce Springsteen is THERE?"

Lily Dale, Friday, 12 May 2023 23:35 (eleven months ago) link

hey that does happen sometimes

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Saturday, 13 May 2023 00:10 (eleven months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NinSGaFDXM

soup of magpies (geoffreyess), Saturday, 13 May 2023 03:39 (eleven months ago) link

Lol that’s cute, Lily

horseshoe, Sunday, 14 May 2023 11:27 (eleven months ago) link

two weeks pass...

There are plans that aren't nearly enough, and then there's the opposite. I'm in for kindergarten tomorrow, and I'm looking at the dayplan the teacher has emailed (8 pages of 12-point type over two separate documents) and the three pages of supplemental notes. It's overkill. To be fair, she emailed it two days in advance, but I'd much rather have a clear, simple dayplan of about two pages to look at the morning of.

clemenza, Thursday, 1 June 2023 02:45 (ten months ago) link

only way to respond to that plan, good lord

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Thursday, 1 June 2023 02:53 (ten months ago) link

Definitely a challenging day--12 Ks who felt like 25--but the micro-developed dayplan hurt more than it really helped.

clemenza, Thursday, 1 June 2023 20:19 (ten months ago) link

three weeks pass...

The kind of thing that makes anyone who's been at this for a while just shake your head: major revamp of the Ontario language curriculum, released yesterday, government wants it in full effect by September. That's bad enough, but the funny part is the new focus on phonics (and reintroduction of cursive!). When I started supplying in the early '90s, anything phonics-related was being phased out for "whole language," and when I started full-time in '98, phonics was practically verboten. My board purchased some expensive, rather insane program around that time called First Steps. Every three or four years, there'd be something else new come along--First Steps went from the number-one focus to something you monitored on a casual basis to something you dashed off as an afterthought in June to a piece of paper buried in the deepest recesses of each student's OSR. Now everything's come full circle.

I know cursive is a nice skill to have, but seriously? In today's world?

https://globalnews.ca/news/9787008/cursive-writing-reintroduced-ontario-schools/

clemenza, Friday, 23 June 2023 02:53 (nine months ago) link

Very humid outside, storm looming, end-of-year intermediate dance (whole school), Friday afternoon, A/C not working--truly one of life's best experiences. I had cafeteria supervision: thought I was going to pass out. Was also reminded of the eternal mystery of how anyone gets through adolescence. There was this one kid, sort of looked like Michael Cera, who wandered around for the full two hours clutching this large box of Welch's Fruit Snacks. I don't know if it was his way to ingratiate himself with others--there was something sad about it. I did see four of five students wearing Expos hats, so maybe that's a thing now.

clemenza, Friday, 23 June 2023 19:29 (nine months ago) link

seven months pass...

Very last thing you want to see on a dayplan: instructions for vacating the room in case your one student-of-concern has a meltdown. I think I run into this once every couple of weeks now. Luckily, I haven't yet had to follow through (and today, the student-of-concern is absent). Before I retired, there were two such students in the room next to me (grade 1/2). They'd clear out frequently, leaving whichever one of them was having the meltdown to turn the room upside down while an adult stood there and watched.

clemenza, Friday, 16 February 2024 15:00 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

Last day for me; they didn't bump the retired-teachers days, so I've hit my limit for the year. I've got stuff to attend to but expect I'll go crazy anyway. Five months off will be the longest not-working window of my life, along with that first COVID spring-summer--which, because there was so much to monitor and think about and discuss, didn't feel like a layoff.

Half-day in a middle school to finish, and they're having a pre-Easter fun day. One period in the gym for a school-wide rock/paper/scissors tournament, one period co-supervising the games/art room (where I am right now). Free money.

Why I'm posting: one of those absurd moments that still makes me love this job. As 300 adolescents filed into the gym, all hopped up on cinnamon swirls--I mean hormones--whoever was in charge of music had Black Sabbath's "Paranoid" blasting. Surreal and thrilling. When the tournament got underway (class winners going against each other in a double-knockout format), the noise level was enough that I had to get some tissue paper and make impromptu earplugs. Insane--how did ESPN not cover this?

clemenza, Thursday, 28 March 2024 18:06 (three weeks ago) link


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