Zing: A (beta) ILX client for Macs

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I've been playing with some networking stuff on the Mac recently, and as a side effect did a little thing to watch ILX for new threads. It ballooned a bit, and is now nearly a full ILX client. I'm using it to read ILX more than I am the website, so I thought I'd let you all have a look at a beta version. If there's any interest, I'll polish it off and add the stuff that's missing.

(A chunk of this code could also go into a native iPhone client, if anybody's interested in that).

INSTALL:
Download link: https://www.ilxor.com/MacZing.zip [2020 Edit - old and broken version link replaced with v2 - most this post is outdated now]
You *must* have logged in to ILX from Safari *and* clicked "remember me". It currently picks up yr Safari cookies to log in, and breaks without them.

WHAT IT DOES:
Lets you read and post.(Screenshot)
Remembers threads you've read
Has a floating "ticker" window that lets you watch a board for new and updated threads (Screenshot)
A pop-out "chat" window that lets you treat a thread a bit like an iChat window. Kinda.(Screenshot)
A pop-out message window to let you see a message in full, with images. (Images don't display in the main window as it kills performance)

STILL TO DO:
There's no support for bookmarks. It's coming, though.
You can't start a new thread.
Polls don't display their options/results, and you can't vote.
Killfile for boards/threads/posters
Choose amount of old posts to view. (Just now it's either the most recent 100 or the whole thread)

KNOWN BUGS:
The post parser needs more work. Right now it handles bold and italic natively, but inserting lists is funky, and the drag-and-drop for images and links is hosed.
Admins can see deleted threads, but nothing happens when you click on them.
The menus only work on the main window, and "Quote Message" and "Bookmark" do nothing.
Collapsing the source list leaves the spinner a-spinning.
You sometimes can't click the sixth thread down. This is an Apple bug. Just scroll a bit.
The message table has odd redraw bugs. I think I've fixed this, but resizing the window definitely sorts it.
(There are probably plenty more. I just found a howler as I was about to post this)

stet, Thursday, 30 July 2009 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link

OK, this is all kinds of awesome, you have made my time wasting so much more efficient.

Mornington Crescent (Ed), Thursday, 30 July 2009 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link

So great.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 July 2009 16:52 (thirteen years ago) link

no youtube :<

generic xanax order cialis buy viagra cheap tramadol (Dr. Phil), Thursday, 30 July 2009 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link

(Of course the next step is an iPhone app :-D )

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 July 2009 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link

k what am i doing wrong? i logged out of ilx in firefox and logged in in safari

wishes to be referred under the pseudonym of kronos (call all destroyer), Thursday, 30 July 2009 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link

did you definitely choose the "remember me" box?
Oh, also: Needs 10.5 Leopard.

stet, Thursday, 30 July 2009 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link

ahhhhh leopard would be the big ish here.

wishes to be referred under the pseudonym of kronos (call all destroyer), Thursday, 30 July 2009 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link

damn man i want to use this, maybe you will result in me updating.

wishes to be referred under the pseudonym of kronos (call all destroyer), Thursday, 30 July 2009 16:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh, yeah: Youtube doesn't work because Flash doesn't work with Garbage Collected apps, and Adobe are fucking about with fixing it.

stet, Thursday, 30 July 2009 16:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Is showing images inline on the to-do list?

Mornington Crescent (Ed), Thursday, 30 July 2009 16:56 (thirteen years ago) link

lol stet u madman

ice cr?m, Thursday, 30 July 2009 16:56 (thirteen years ago) link

I like the "faster pussycat xpost xpost" error message

Mornington Crescent (Ed), Thursday, 30 July 2009 16:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Inline images is definitely coming, but is a bit of work, as it kills scrolling with an ordinary table so I'll have to write my own (but need to do that anyway)

stet, Thursday, 30 July 2009 16:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, the trucker had icon is good too, is it dirty?

Mornington Crescent (Ed), Thursday, 30 July 2009 16:58 (thirteen years ago) link

haha i cant use this on my work computer but this looks hilarious and amazing

max, Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link

It's not making long-lived connections is it, Stet? I shouldn't have thought so, but if it is, it's likely to make 'poxy fule' type errors pretty quickly. Just noticed the length of time it took to connect after I stop/started there.

Keith, Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link

oooh, fun!

carson dial, Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link

whoa, i'm posting from this now!

dim sum dude (s1ocki), Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link

No, there's quite a lot of caching and stuff in there to stop it being boisterous. It should just appear like a normal browser session. xp

stet, Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link

So it's making an HTTP connection to the server, getting the data and dropping the HTTP connection?

Keith, Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link

lol trucker hat icon

dim sum dude (s1ocki), Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Anyway, got to head out - looks cool.

Keith, Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link

(Although when I fixed one bug earlier, it fired off a request for every thread in the table if you scrolled down it. Which wasn't great.)

xp Yep. Though It won't make a connection at all if it's previously loaded a thread or recently polled a board etc.

stet, Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link

hey stet, may i suggest putting something in that allows u to see the thread's URL in case you want to email or IM a link to a thread

dim sum dude (s1ocki), Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link

If you do shift-apple-O it'll open the thread in the browser so you can copy it, but yeah should do that.

stet, Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link

how cool! using this right now. at least i hope

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link

oh also... is there any way to make links to threads in threads open in zing instead of the default browser?

sorry i know it's probably too early to be making feature requests!

dim sum dude (s1ocki), Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link

can you hear me? yeah this is cool.

dan selzer, Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link

i can't hear u, speak up

dim sum dude (s1ocki), Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link

wheres the suggest ban link

generic xanax order cialis buy viagra cheap tramadol (Dr. Phil), Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link

how about a refresh button?

dan selzer, Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link

geuess papers app

generic xanax order cialis buy viagra cheap tramadol (Dr. Phil), Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link

there's a few different ways to refresh things. If the thread's in a separate window, you can refresh with the weird button at the top right. Otherwise it's shift-apple-r to reload a thread, and option-apple-r to reload new answers. Do you want buttons for them?

stet, Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link

hahaha

t-t-t-totally duuuuude @_@

air crut (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:44 (thirteen years ago) link

this is amazing stet

air crut (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:44 (thirteen years ago) link

(also things do refresh themselves automatically -- it can just be a bit slow if a thread's moving v. quick, but I don't want to poxy fule the server)
xp tx!

stet, Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:46 (thirteen years ago) link

STET FOR PRESIDETN

tehresa, Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link

gonna d/l when i get home, awesome

cutty, Thursday, 30 July 2009 18:32 (thirteen years ago) link

we need this ON IPHONE

dim sum dude (s1ocki), Thursday, 30 July 2009 18:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Tried to post --

"Failed: For Mysterious Reasons"

Beanbag the Gardener (WmC), Thursday, 30 July 2009 18:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Otherwise, very cool!

Beanbag the Gardener (WmC), Thursday, 30 July 2009 18:51 (thirteen years ago) link

How do I post from it?

I can't make my face turn into a heart (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 30 July 2009 18:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Can you make a new thread from it, too?

Looks way cool. The icon's a trucker hat!

I can't make my face turn into a heart (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 30 July 2009 18:57 (thirteen years ago) link

iPhone app of this would, of course, be the coolest motherfucking thing ever. I'd sling 59p your way for it.

I can't make my face turn into a heart (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 30 July 2009 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link

are you gonna post the code anywhere?

bnw, Thursday, 30 July 2009 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link

so maybe you are aware of this but the auto-refresh affects the thread you are currently reading and makes the thread jump down to the bottom so you have to scroll back up to catch your place again.

tehresa, Thursday, 30 July 2009 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link

ok, now posting from zing...

Beanbag the Gardener (WmC), Thursday, 30 July 2009 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link

cool!

Beanbag the Gardener (WmC), Thursday, 30 July 2009 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Nick: no new threads yet. Press the pencil to show the post box, or double click thread to show in new window

WmC: that's usually the not-clicked remember me that causes that.

Tza: shit, thought I'd fixed that. Is it doing it in the main window or in a pop-out?

stet, Thursday, 30 July 2009 19:46 (thirteen years ago) link

My post attempt timed out?

I can't make my face turn into a heart (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 30 July 2009 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link

That's a new one, not seen that before. Are you on a slow connection?

stet, Thursday, 30 July 2009 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link

in the main window

tehresa, Thursday, 30 July 2009 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Jesus, this has grown legs somewhat since I last saw it. And arms. And got itself a hat.

Huge respect.

grimly fiendish, Thursday, 30 July 2009 20:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Broadband; uploads can be slow but I've never had a problem with posting or emailing without attachments.

I can't make my face turn into a heart (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 30 July 2009 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link

tza: am finding it hard to replicate that scrolling bug. Is it doing it every single time?

Nick: that's very odd. I'll go on modem later and see if I can make that happen. Sorry!

stet, Thursday, 30 July 2009 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

You rule, stet. Love this.

never name anything coolpix (kenan), Thursday, 30 July 2009 21:37 (thirteen years ago) link

tza: got it! It scrolls to end when the boards refresh, weirdly. will fix.

stet, Thursday, 30 July 2009 21:39 (thirteen years ago) link

plz port to windoze

the stain specialist (Viceroy), Thursday, 30 July 2009 21:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Can I post from Zing now, I wonder?

I can't make my face turn into a heart (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 31 July 2009 06:56 (thirteen years ago) link

It seems that I can!

I can't make my face turn into a heart (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 31 July 2009 06:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Huzzah!

I can't make my face turn into a heart (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 31 July 2009 06:56 (thirteen years ago) link

plz to finish ifone app k thx.

Jack Battery-Pack, Friday, 31 July 2009 07:17 (thirteen years ago) link

This is a fucking awesome little tool. Any way I can increase font / fontsize?

I can't make my face turn into a heart (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 31 July 2009 07:19 (thirteen years ago) link

xp "Hey guys I just spent untold hours building this really cool thing that you can now have for free!"

"Yeah, great. I want it to do this other thing."

never name anything coolpix (kenan), Friday, 31 July 2009 07:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Plz allow me to pay u money for iPhone app.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Friday, 31 July 2009 08:18 (thirteen years ago) link

I only use ilx to sb these days where's my sb link fool!!!!!!

read ur post, phoned a somnambulance (cozwn), Friday, 31 July 2009 08:51 (thirteen years ago) link

haha

I can't make my face turn into a heart (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 31 July 2009 09:06 (thirteen years ago) link

poor pc-using me doesn't get to play with the cool kids' toys "-/

forkshighway (The Reverend), Friday, 31 July 2009 09:28 (thirteen years ago) link

http://i.zdnet.com/blogs/nelson-muntz.gif

never name anything coolpix (kenan), Friday, 31 July 2009 09:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Go play Flight Simulator, Rev!

http://tinyurl.com/mnd3bd (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 31 July 2009 14:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm not sure about all the space that's taken up by the board list in the left column. I doubt most ILXers look at it all that often. Maybe a way to select your favourite boards from a drop-down?

fields of salmon, Friday, 31 July 2009 15:30 (thirteen years ago) link

if you press the circle button on the bottom left the list does go away, if that's any help?

stet, Friday, 31 July 2009 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link

(Ah! I haven't actually downloaded it. I'm just looking at the screen shot.)

fields of salmon, Friday, 31 July 2009 15:37 (thirteen years ago) link

You can also adjust that column to make it thinner. I use it reasonably often, if only to flit from ILE to ILM.

I can't make my face turn into a heart (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 31 July 2009 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link

!!!!

I missed this thread earlier

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 10 August 2009 23:11 (thirteen years ago) link

holy shit

Tracer Hand, Monday, 10 August 2009 23:57 (thirteen years ago) link

i am truly stunned

Tracer Hand, Monday, 10 August 2009 23:57 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I haven't forgotten about this, but since the most asked for feature was an iPhone version I decided to have a stab at that. It's not *too* shabby, so far.
http://www.ilxor.com/~stet/zingimg/ZingMsg.png
http://www.ilxor.com/~stet/zingimg/Zingborads.png
http://www.ilxor.com/~stet/zingimg/ZingThread.png

stet, Thursday, 27 August 2009 22:28 (twelve years ago) link

arg forgot to resize them, sorry

stet, Thursday, 27 August 2009 22:29 (twelve years ago) link

ooh looks cool

jergins, Thursday, 27 August 2009 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

at last, a reason to buy an iphone.

seriously, beautiful beautiful work. I want.

narcissistic late-20s liberal arts grad on ilx right now (sciolism), Thursday, 27 August 2009 22:39 (twelve years ago) link

Oh wow.

Seriously, let me pay you for this.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Thursday, 27 August 2009 22:51 (twelve years ago) link

stet! <3

tehresa, Thursday, 27 August 2009 23:12 (twelve years ago) link

Brilliant. :-D

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 27 August 2009 23:12 (twelve years ago) link

you tha man

[not sent from my iphone which i don't have yet]

unban dictionary (blueski), Thursday, 27 August 2009 23:17 (twelve years ago) link

wow AMAZING!!!

Miss Fitzhenry (s1ocki), Friday, 28 August 2009 00:20 (twelve years ago) link

Will this work on an iPod touch as well? *curious*. If so, what v of the s/w do I need cos I think I'm a couple revisions behind.

Spy in the Cab Sav (Trayce), Friday, 28 August 2009 00:25 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks guys! Yeah it will work on iPod tooch, but you'll need a wifi connection to use it (I played with storing threads offline, but to be useful you'd want to dl a whole board, and that's server killing. I might try to just dl all yr bookmarks, for a short tube trip or something)

stet, Friday, 28 August 2009 00:39 (twelve years ago) link

Oh buttered corpse, yeah. I like to ILX in bed, sometimes.

Hm... TMI, perhaps.

Spy in the Cab Sav (Trayce), Friday, 28 August 2009 00:47 (twelve years ago) link

Oh forgot to say, it needs 3.0. It's worth getting anyway, it's miles better.

stet, Friday, 28 August 2009 00:50 (twelve years ago) link

Arse, I dont have 3.0 yet, but this might be an incentive to! :)

Excellent work btw :)

Spy in the Cab Sav (Trayce), Friday, 28 August 2009 00:57 (twelve years ago) link

AMAZONG. want!

JimD, Friday, 28 August 2009 01:16 (twelve years ago) link

has it been submitted to appledapple?

Miss Fitzhenry (s1ocki), Friday, 28 August 2009 04:09 (twelve years ago) link

you are so awsum

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Friday, 28 August 2009 10:02 (twelve years ago) link

thought of making it (the full Mac OSX version) growl? </moon + stick>

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Friday, 28 August 2009 10:06 (twelve years ago) link

Does anyone know about a mac emulator that will run this on a pc? (Yeah yeah, nelson ha ha again)

StanM, Friday, 28 August 2009 10:48 (twelve years ago) link

It's not at Apple yet, there are a few bugs still (mostly with bloody webkit and with the OG phone running out of memory on big threads). Next week I reckon.

Al: yeah, that looks easy enough. In my build here I post notifications when new bookmarks or new posts arrive, so I could stick Growl on the end of that.

stet, Friday, 28 August 2009 11:00 (twelve years ago) link

this combination gives me chills

#/.'#/'@ilikecats (g-kit), Friday, 28 August 2009 13:32 (twelve years ago) link

Just wait until Stet programs it to have each post talk in the original poster's voice.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 August 2009 13:33 (twelve years ago) link

who is the original poster, if not you ned?

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Friday, 28 August 2009 13:34 (twelve years ago) link

Mysterious.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 August 2009 13:41 (twelve years ago) link

WANT. You are awesome, Stet.

schwantz, Friday, 28 August 2009 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah once this is on the app store ima get it for sure, even if you wanna charge for it :)

Spy in the Cab Sav (Trayce), Saturday, 29 August 2009 00:57 (twelve years ago) link

bug report? i had zing running earlier and it just randomly quit. i wasn't even using it, it was just on. that is probably not so helpful!

tehresa, Saturday, 29 August 2009 00:58 (twelve years ago) link

Ah, yeah, it'll have been the session timing out. It falls on its ass if that happens, but i've fixed that now. Much better Mac Zing coming when I get this iPhone one out.

stet, Saturday, 29 August 2009 01:01 (twelve years ago) link

^ilx's most inspirational figure

jergins, Saturday, 29 August 2009 01:41 (twelve years ago) link

we need a bait thread for the apple testers

jergins, Saturday, 29 August 2009 01:42 (twelve years ago) link

You snake.

StanM, Saturday, 29 August 2009 06:07 (twelve years ago) link

<3

Suedey 2, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 11:23 (twelve years ago) link

Any idea of an ETA on the iPhone app? I'm salivating.

Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 11:38 (twelve years ago) link

I'm goin to submit it on Thursday and then it's down to Apple ...

stet, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 12:18 (twelve years ago) link

does zing refresh in realtime?

cozwn (webinar), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 12:20 (twelve years ago) link

Is there anyway to get apps other than via the App store?

Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 12:24 (twelve years ago) link

yeah can you not let 10 of us test it or something? or did they do away w/tht

cozwn, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 12:26 (twelve years ago) link

woo-hoo, this is all kinds of awesome

Gigolo Grasiento (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 12:54 (twelve years ago) link

No real-time refresh, that'd take server push and that's a lotta work for not much better than hitting refresh.

I can do private builds but they're clunky a kind of a pain. Will look into it if Apple drag their heels

stet, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 14:18 (twelve years ago) link

is it really bad i finally got the ipod touch upgrade so i can use this when it is eventually available?

tehresa, Thursday, 3 September 2009 04:43 (twelve years ago) link

what in the hell, how did i miss this

crabRCISE (gbx), Thursday, 3 September 2009 04:47 (twelve years ago) link

this post is coming from inside the app

crabRCISE (gbx), Thursday, 3 September 2009 04:49 (twelve years ago) link

Hahah tza thats what is going to be my impetus too ;_;

our soldiers die like chickens day by day (Trayce), Thursday, 3 September 2009 05:16 (twelve years ago) link

I know, this has persuaded me into buying an iPhone finally :-)

young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 September 2009 07:28 (twelve years ago) link

Is it on the store? How've you got it gbx?

Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 3 September 2009 08:18 (twelve years ago) link

i think he meant just zing for regular computers?

tehresa, Thursday, 3 September 2009 18:11 (twelve years ago) link

Ah.

Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 3 September 2009 18:52 (twelve years ago) link

Any word from the app store?

Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 12 September 2009 09:01 (twelve years ago) link

keep your pants on

mountain G.O.A.T. (s1ocki), Saturday, 12 September 2009 12:07 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

where my zing at

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 11:46 (twelve years ago) link

I thinking it going to be this week. Surely.

While I'm waiting, I'm adding bookmarks to Zing Mac, but was also wondering if anyone would like a like menubar thing that glowed when you had updated bookmarks, showed you what they were, and opened them in a browser?

stet, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 11:51 (twelve years ago) link

Bugger. Rejected for having "henfap" as one of the keywords. Had to submit new binaries, so could take another 7-14 days. Sigh.

stet, Saturday, 17 October 2009 02:07 (twelve years ago) link

I will never buy another Apple product as long as I live, this is lunacy.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Saturday, 17 October 2009 02:10 (twelve years ago) link

heh, meant to quote there. Anyway, f u apple and your henfap hating ways

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Saturday, 17 October 2009 02:11 (twelve years ago) link

Rejected for having "henfap" as one of the keywords.

Umm...could this be explained, somehow?

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 17 October 2009 03:18 (twelve years ago) link

You're not allowed keywords that aren't linked to the app, and I figured it'd take even longer to explain the link as to just take it out.

stet, Saturday, 17 October 2009 03:29 (twelve years ago) link

"it's, uhh, something you need to have." lol, might not cut it with testers. thanks for all your work, stet, this is gonna be great.

jergins, Saturday, 17 October 2009 03:42 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

Any signs of a new update to the desktop app?

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 01:31 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, yeah! Are folks still using it? I don't get any stats, so I didn't know. If you are, yeah, I learned a lot from the iPhone version so could do a pretty big update, with bookmarking and polls etc. I'll see about making some time for it.

stet, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 01:42 (twelve years ago) link

roxor!

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 02:02 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

i would be interested in this

remembrance of schwings past (gbx), Friday, 12 August 2011 14:41 (ten years ago) link

<-- also interested

diamonddave85, Friday, 12 August 2011 16:13 (ten years ago) link

<-- could also assist with development

diamonddave85, Friday, 12 August 2011 16:13 (ten years ago) link

If I do the work required to make an iPad version it'll make doing a new Mac version way easier. I cld just do a framework that wraps the API essentially, and you could build on that maybe?

stet, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 23:17 (ten years ago) link

I would pay for and use both.

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 23:28 (ten years ago) link

So there y'are, six quid guaranteed.

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 23:29 (ten years ago) link

four years pass...

can i just say that with the new system font on iOS this is finally REALLY THE WAY ILX IS SUPPOSED TO BE

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 October 2015 12:32 (six years ago) link

four years pass...

where did the top left "back" button go in this new update. is it just me?

let's talk about gecs baby (sleeve), Saturday, 1 February 2020 01:23 (two years ago) link

oh nm I thought it was on the home screen but it's in thread view, sorry

let's talk about gecs baby (sleeve), Saturday, 1 February 2020 01:24 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

https://i.ibb.co/MRMPZp5/Screenshot-2020-05-14-at-17-27-09.png

stet, Thursday, 14 May 2020 16:28 (two years ago) link

🤯

El Tomboto, Thursday, 14 May 2020 17:11 (two years ago) link

only took ten years, like :/

stet, Thursday, 14 May 2020 17:13 (two years ago) link

(the last 1% of bugs will take another ten years at this rate)

stet, Thursday, 14 May 2020 17:13 (two years ago) link

whaaaaaaat

lukas, Thursday, 14 May 2020 17:26 (two years ago) link

is that a desktop client?

Mordy, Thursday, 14 May 2020 17:31 (two years ago) link

YESSS

porlockian solicitor (Karl Malone), Thursday, 14 May 2020 17:35 (two years ago) link

holy cow! might finally be time to switch my work PC to a mac. :)

DJI, Thursday, 14 May 2020 17:40 (two years ago) link

i’m not sure how i feel about this

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 14 May 2020 20:21 (two years ago) link

Me too. I spent ages wondering if it was worth it now that browsers are so good and fast. But I got tired of testing Zing Touch in the simulator so then I made this as a wrapper ... and then I found I was using it nearly exclusively.

Need to add search but it's pretty usable. I'll put up a beta if people would like a play.

stet, Thursday, 14 May 2020 20:51 (two years ago) link

yes, please!

DJI, Thursday, 14 May 2020 21:20 (two years ago) link

I'm in.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 15 May 2020 01:22 (two years ago) link

OK, here goes!

It's definitely a beta but it's OK to use for checking bookmarks and posting.

Notes:
- Search isn't implemented yet
- Nor are themes (but dark mode works)
- Can't favourite borads
- Can't cmd-c on selected message text, you have to right-click
- Single-pane mode (close the message list from X) is a little buggy.
- The menubar checker drags off but doesn't resize.

Download here:
https://www.ilxor.com/MacZing.zip

stet, Friday, 15 May 2020 09:29 (two years ago) link

(Oh also: drag it out of the Downloads folder before opening it for best results)

stet, Friday, 15 May 2020 09:30 (two years ago) link

downloading now - thanks stet. zing is genuinely one of the best apps on my phone, so looking forward to giving this a go.

Fizzles, Friday, 15 May 2020 09:36 (two years ago) link

and posting from it now : )

Fizzles, Friday, 15 May 2020 09:39 (two years ago) link

Stet is the man

calstars, Friday, 15 May 2020 09:50 (two years ago) link

Trying this now. thanks. Right now all my bookmarks are duplicated. Two lines for every one (to the tune of "Surf City").

Louder Than Bach's Bottom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 May 2020 14:29 (two years ago) link

oooh that's weird. Can you check you don't accidentally have two accounts listed? (In preferences go to the accounts tab)

stet, Friday, 15 May 2020 14:31 (two years ago) link

Same account listed twice, yes.

Louder Than Bach's Bottom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 May 2020 14:39 (two years ago) link

I deleted one at which point it logged me off. I logged back on. Now it shows no accounts.

Louder Than Bach's Bottom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 May 2020 14:41 (two years ago) link

well done me - if you trying adding once more it should hopefully work

stet, Friday, 15 May 2020 14:45 (two years ago) link

Now it's there twice again.

Louder Than Bach's Bottom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 May 2020 14:46 (two years ago) link

But this time I deleted the first and not the second and now I'm back down to one.

Louder Than Bach's Bottom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 May 2020 14:47 (two years ago) link

Trying this now -- works very nicely from here!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 May 2020 14:50 (two years ago) link

Works pretty good for me. ILX links in posts open in my browser though.

DJI, Friday, 15 May 2020 15:10 (two years ago) link

Yes, this later was kind of shocking, tbh, although I suppose it makes sense.

Louder Than Bach's Bottom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 May 2020 15:25 (two years ago) link

i don't prefer it to the website (and i think it's a little slower) but still v cool

Mordy, Friday, 15 May 2020 15:25 (two years ago) link

Works fine, but I'll have to stay with the browser until I can enlarge type in zing.

herds of unmasked cletuses (WmC), Friday, 15 May 2020 15:27 (two years ago) link

It’s obvious how much Apple has neglected the Mac when you start coding for it again. Like on iPhone I can really easily set everything to the user’s preferred text size. There’s no support for that on Mac at all.

Changing the link behaviour is really easy, I’ll do that.

stet, Friday, 15 May 2020 16:15 (two years ago) link

So cool. Couple things:
- I can drag to change the width of the threads list, but as soon as I let go it snaps back
- It'd be nice if arrows/PgDn/PgUp worked to scroll

posted from MacZing

lukas, Friday, 15 May 2020 16:29 (two years ago) link

thanks! got the width bug. The page up/dn thing is harder - it's the same bug as copy/paste note working. will take a look over the weekend

stet, Friday, 15 May 2020 16:35 (two years ago) link

oh maybe that's what you meant by menubar checker

haven't tried writing a Mac desktop app but it doesn't surprise me they've let the frameworks stagnate.

lukas, Friday, 15 May 2020 16:44 (two years ago) link

Now I have five copies of each bookmark. Only one account listed in Preferences.

Louder Than Bach's Bottom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 May 2020 19:39 (two years ago) link

What version of macOS are you running? It seems like this might be linked to how the keychain stores passwords

stet, Friday, 15 May 2020 19:43 (two years ago) link

Mojave, sorry.

Louder Than Bach's Bottom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 May 2020 19:52 (two years ago) link

It actually went up to six for a while. Just logged off and back on again

Louder Than Bach's Bottom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 May 2020 20:28 (two years ago) link

Maybe it has to do with logging onto the browser at the same time?

Louder Than Bach's Bottom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 May 2020 21:05 (two years ago) link

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Louder Than Bach's Bottom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 May 2020 21:07 (two years ago) link

Lol. That was supposed to be grasping at straws dot com.

Louder Than Bach's Bottom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 May 2020 21:07 (two years ago) link

Are you running from the Downloads folder?

The problem (I think) is that it is trying to save your settings and somehow failing and repeatedly trying. Quarantine might conceivably cause that; and moving it out of the Download folder will remove quarantine from it.

(You might also need to erase ~/Library/Containers/com.haunteddancehall.maczing (or similar) before trying again. Sorry! Beta 4 lyfe

stet, Friday, 15 May 2020 21:58 (two years ago) link

Yeah, I might be doing something like that, thanks.

Louder Than Bach's Bottom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 May 2020 21:59 (two years ago) link

Might be nice to see the current thread with some kind of subtle highlight in the threads list.

lukas, Sunday, 17 May 2020 03:56 (two years ago) link

This is how I read ILX now. Shut up and take my money, etc.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 23 May 2020 21:02 (two years ago) link

I'd been wondering whether to bother doing more work on it, so that's good to hear! I'm getting quite into using it in one-pane mode (cmd-1, cmd-2) in a small window over to the side — it sits nicely beside Tweetdeck.

stet, Saturday, 23 May 2020 21:27 (two years ago) link

i'm not sure it *really* has enough over the browser functionality, then again, i'm using it now. Ctrl+D for bookmarking open threads is *incredibly* useful (would be useful to have a shortcut to unbookmark as well). Second lukas's request for some sort of shading in the open thread when using it in 2-pane mode. i can see if it had a bit more functionality it could easily become my default on mac.

Fizzles, Sunday, 24 May 2020 09:54 (two years ago) link

actually i was just thinking how nice it would be to have full reader/email shortcut functionality - p/n for going up and down between messages, j/k for going up and down between bookmarks/threads. r for replying to a particular message in focus, automatically taking the message body and putting it in quote or italic bbcode brackets etc. so consider me interested!

and actually *is* there a way to remove a bookmark from a thread?

Fizzles, Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:11 (two years ago) link

and filtering bookmarks according to boards. sorry i'm getting carried away now - i know this is a spare time thing. on a basic using it point - it would be nice if clicking on a thread took you to the most recent post, or the most recently read post – i can't quite understand the existing behaviour about which post it goes to when you click on a thread.

Fizzles, Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:16 (two years ago) link

no, keep this coming, I love it! The only way to remove a bookmark right now is to right-click (or ctrl-click) on the bookmark itself and choose "remove".

Board-level bookmarks is a great idea, too.

The thread behaviour isn't right, no. The way it works right now is that if you click a bookmark you see the thread starting from your last bookmark, if you choose a thread from new answers you get shown the 50 oldest and 50 most recent posts, with a fold in the middle. What it should really do is know if you've opened a thread before and if so take you to the most recent posts.

stet, Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:25 (two years ago) link

ah right, interesting, thanks stet, and thanks on the remove bookmark instructions. also, i *think* if you have something that looks like bbcode that's incorrectly closed out, it will just go NOPE, rather than allowing a 'post anyway?' option. tbf my bracketing so often does require checking and revising you could argue this is *no bad thing*.

Fizzles, Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:37 (two years ago) link

using now, seems great. will update if i run into any trouble. thanks for working on this :)

devvvine, Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:49 (two years ago) link

using MacZing for the first time right now! boldly, in italics, underlining...

Karl Malone, Sunday, 24 May 2020 13:48 (two years ago) link

formatting: CHECK

Karl Malone, Sunday, 24 May 2020 13:48 (two years ago) link

having a great time! i'm also going to throw some ideas out as i go - take with a grain of salt, of course.

Is there a way to increase the size of the text submission area? i see that if i keep typing, it starts to add extra space, but it would be great if it could be manually resized by dragging the edge of the pane.

(by the way, for people who haven't checked this out - one really cool quality of life thing is that you can scroll through the rest of the thread while keeping the message submission box on the screen. will be very handy for composing ridiculous messages in threads where people are rite and rong all over the place

Karl Malone, Sunday, 24 May 2020 13:58 (two years ago) link

another small thing that might be nice - a subtle visual cue showing you which thread you're viewing from the site new answers and/or bookmarks. pro mock-up:

https://i.imgur.com/nPkIWvH.jpg

Karl Malone, Sunday, 24 May 2020 14:01 (two years ago) link

finally, would be neat if clicking the little red hat in the corner made a frog croaking noise

Karl Malone, Sunday, 24 May 2020 14:02 (two years ago) link

a more serious bug - i keep getting the Poxy Fule error when clicking the "view previous page..." link in a bookmark.

Karl Malone, Sunday, 24 May 2020 14:08 (two years ago) link

one more thought for today - is there a way to open multiple threads at once? i am an ilx multitabber, in general

Karl Malone, Sunday, 24 May 2020 14:09 (two years ago) link

If you CMD-click or double click on a thread it should open in a new tab, yep.

stet, Sunday, 24 May 2020 15:20 (two years ago) link

would love a Linux version I'll see myself out

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Sunday, 24 May 2020 15:38 (two years ago) link

just remembered at one point I had started writing an emacs mode for reading ILX. any interest? I'll see myself out again

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Sunday, 24 May 2020 15:39 (two years ago) link

Only if make a vim version as well.

Spocks on the Run (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 May 2020 17:41 (two years ago) link

I’ll give you details of the API if it’d help, diamonddave85

stet, Sunday, 24 May 2020 17:53 (two years ago) link

I've fixed that horrible poxy fule error on previous pages – if the thread view looks unstyled after the update, right-click on it and choose "refresh" to fix.

stet, Friday, 5 June 2020 00:47 (two years ago) link

New release looks good thanks.

Jeff Sunship (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 13 June 2020 15:05 (two years ago) link

If you CMD-click or double click on a thread it should open in a new tab, yep.
This was working for me at one point but not anymore.

Jeff Sunship (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 13 June 2020 15:06 (two years ago) link

looks like there's a crashing bug there if you cmd-click in certain circs, thanks

stet, Saturday, 13 June 2020 15:32 (two years ago) link

Hm. Didn’t actually crash for me, just wasn’t working but now it does again.

Jeff Sunship (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 13 June 2020 15:37 (two years ago) link

Oh wait. I see, it works with bookmarks but not from Site New Answers.

Jeff Sunship (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 13 June 2020 15:39 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

Zing isn't remembering the window size between launches. Is this a known thing or should I toss prefs? (I'm on build 88)

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 02:53 (two years ago) link

It’s a known thing, I’ll upload a fixed version when I get near WiFi again

stet, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 10:32 (two years ago) link

uploaded a new version now to sort that

stet, Sunday, 2 August 2020 16:47 (two years ago) link

thanks!

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 2 August 2020 19:26 (two years ago) link

Possibly an option to open threads from SNA at the bottom / newest?

lukas, Sunday, 2 August 2020 20:05 (two years ago) link

seven months pass...

Here to a report with this revealing hidden text when returning search results or displaying latest post of a bookmarked thread in the left panel. See for instance Babylon 5

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 29 March 2021 15:00 (one year ago) link

thanks - the next beta fixes it. haven't pushed it out yet because it's broken in dark mode

stet, Tuesday, 30 March 2021 11:21 (one year ago) link

Thanks!

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 11:24 (one year ago) link

Don’t what was going on with the beginning of that sentence.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 11:29 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

Any chance of adding a preference panel for changing the app icon? I was about to screen-share with a work client and had sudden dread that they would think I was using some secret MAGA chud.net client.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 28 June 2021 01:33 (one year ago) link

Oh my god I never made the connection. Fucking Trump. Yes, I’ll come up with something.

stet, Monday, 28 June 2021 09:25 (one year ago) link

yeah can’t unsee now :(

Tracer Hand, Monday, 28 June 2021 10:00 (one year ago) link

Wait, ILX isn’t a trump fan forum? I’m out of here!! ;)

Karl Malone, Monday, 28 June 2021 13:06 (one year ago) link

Make America Gear! Again

Alba, Monday, 28 June 2021 13:13 (one year ago) link

If I were home I could whip this up quickly, but I’d like to see an icon with hundreds of tiny mouths talking to Raul how other, with twice as many ears - at ILX, we sure do talk a lot. But we also listen.

Karl Malone, Monday, 28 June 2021 13:15 (one year ago) link

That garbled by my lord Raul, but hopefully the meaning comes through

Karl Malone, Monday, 28 June 2021 13:16 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

The view previous page Poxy Fule bug went away on MacZing when I updated my OS this morning.

What Does Blecch Mean to Me? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 14 September 2021 16:54 (ten months ago) link

five months pass...

So I never noticed until today that I could click on a timestamp and the relevant permalink to the post would show up in Safari.

Solaris Ocean Blue (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 18 February 2022 02:04 (five months ago) link

Similar to Facepalm permalink trick I also just learned.

Solaris Ocean Blue (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 18 February 2022 02:31 (five months ago) link

three months pass...

Would like to request a hide threads feature whenever you have time to look at zing again, would make the zing experience that much better I feel.

gyac, Thursday, 16 June 2022 12:14 (one month ago) link

sure – just checking, zing for mac or iphone?

stet, Sunday, 19 June 2022 17:28 (one month ago) link

I’d like to request the hide tags being added to the iOS apps formatting list.

Alba, Sunday, 19 June 2022 18:30 (one month ago) link

sure – just checking, zing for mac or iphone?


iPhone, thank you!

gyac, Sunday, 19 June 2022 19:12 (one month ago) link


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