I've been playing with some networking stuff on the Mac recently, and as a side effect did a little thing to watch ILX for new threads. It ballooned a bit, and is now nearly a full ILX client. I'm using it to read ILX more than I am the website, so I thought I'd let you all have a look at a beta version. If there's any interest, I'll polish it off and add the stuff that's missing.
(A chunk of this code could also go into a native iPhone client, if anybody's interested in that).
INSTALL:Download link: https://www.ilxor.com/MacZing.zip [2020 Edit - old and broken version link replaced with v2 - most this post is outdated now] You *must* have logged in to ILX from Safari *and* clicked "remember me". It currently picks up yr Safari cookies to log in, and breaks without them.
WHAT IT DOES:Lets you read and post.(Screenshot)Remembers threads you've readHas a floating "ticker" window that lets you watch a board for new and updated threads (Screenshot)A pop-out "chat" window that lets you treat a thread a bit like an iChat window. Kinda.(Screenshot)A pop-out message window to let you see a message in full, with images. (Images don't display in the main window as it kills performance)
STILL TO DO:There's no support for bookmarks. It's coming, though.You can't start a new thread.Polls don't display their options/results, and you can't vote.Killfile for boards/threads/postersChoose amount of old posts to view. (Just now it's either the most recent 100 or the whole thread)
KNOWN BUGS:The post parser needs more work. Right now it handles bold and italic natively, but inserting lists is funky, and the drag-and-drop for images and links is hosed.Admins can see deleted threads, but nothing happens when you click on them.The menus only work on the main window, and "Quote Message" and "Bookmark" do nothing.Collapsing the source list leaves the spinner a-spinning.You sometimes can't click the sixth thread down. This is an Apple bug. Just scroll a bit.The message table has odd redraw bugs. I think I've fixed this, but resizing the window definitely sorts it.(There are probably plenty more. I just found a howler as I was about to post this)
― stet, Thursday, 30 July 2009 16:46 (fourteen years ago) link
OK, this is all kinds of awesome, you have made my time wasting so much more efficient.
― Mornington Crescent (Ed), Thursday, 30 July 2009 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link
So great.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 July 2009 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link
no youtube :<
― generic xanax order cialis buy viagra cheap tramadol (Dr. Phil), Thursday, 30 July 2009 16:53 (fourteen years ago) link
(Of course the next step is an iPhone app :-D )
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 July 2009 16:53 (fourteen years ago) link
k what am i doing wrong? i logged out of ilx in firefox and logged in in safari
― wishes to be referred under the pseudonym of kronos (call all destroyer), Thursday, 30 July 2009 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link
did you definitely choose the "remember me" box?Oh, also: Needs 10.5 Leopard.
― stet, Thursday, 30 July 2009 16:55 (fourteen years ago) link
ahhhhh leopard would be the big ish here.
― wishes to be referred under the pseudonym of kronos (call all destroyer), Thursday, 30 July 2009 16:55 (fourteen years ago) link
damn man i want to use this, maybe you will result in me updating.
― wishes to be referred under the pseudonym of kronos (call all destroyer), Thursday, 30 July 2009 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh, yeah: Youtube doesn't work because Flash doesn't work with Garbage Collected apps, and Adobe are fucking about with fixing it.
― stet, Thursday, 30 July 2009 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link
Is showing images inline on the to-do list?
― Mornington Crescent (Ed), Thursday, 30 July 2009 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link
lol stet u madman
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 30 July 2009 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link
I like the "faster pussycat xpost xpost" error message
― Mornington Crescent (Ed), Thursday, 30 July 2009 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link
Inline images is definitely coming, but is a bit of work, as it kills scrolling with an ordinary table so I'll have to write my own (but need to do that anyway)
― stet, Thursday, 30 July 2009 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link
Also, the trucker had icon is good too, is it dirty?
― Mornington Crescent (Ed), Thursday, 30 July 2009 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link
haha i cant use this on my work computer but this looks hilarious and amazing
― max, Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link
It's not making long-lived connections is it, Stet? I shouldn't have thought so, but if it is, it's likely to make 'poxy fule' type errors pretty quickly. Just noticed the length of time it took to connect after I stop/started there.
― Keith, Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:08 (fourteen years ago) link
oooh, fun!
― carson dial, Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:08 (fourteen years ago) link
whoa, i'm posting from this now!
― dim sum dude (s1ocki), Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link
No, there's quite a lot of caching and stuff in there to stop it being boisterous. It should just appear like a normal browser session. xp
― stet, Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link
So it's making an HTTP connection to the server, getting the data and dropping the HTTP connection?
― Keith, Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link
lol trucker hat icon
― dim sum dude (s1ocki), Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link
Anyway, got to head out - looks cool.
― Keith, Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link
(Although when I fixed one bug earlier, it fired off a request for every thread in the table if you scrolled down it. Which wasn't great.)
xp Yep. Though It won't make a connection at all if it's previously loaded a thread or recently polled a board etc.
― stet, Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link
hey stet, may i suggest putting something in that allows u to see the thread's URL in case you want to email or IM a link to a thread
― dim sum dude (s1ocki), Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:12 (fourteen years ago) link
If you do shift-apple-O it'll open the thread in the browser so you can copy it, but yeah should do that.
― stet, Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:15 (fourteen years ago) link
how cool! using this right now. at least i hope
― sonderangerbot, Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link
oh also... is there any way to make links to threads in threads open in zing instead of the default browser?
sorry i know it's probably too early to be making feature requests!
― dim sum dude (s1ocki), Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link
can you hear me? yeah this is cool.
― dan selzer, Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link
i can't hear u, speak up
― dim sum dude (s1ocki), Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:28 (fourteen years ago) link
wheres the suggest ban link
― generic xanax order cialis buy viagra cheap tramadol (Dr. Phil), Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link
how about a refresh button?
― dan selzer, Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:40 (fourteen years ago) link
geuess papers app
― generic xanax order cialis buy viagra cheap tramadol (Dr. Phil), Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link
there's a few different ways to refresh things. If the thread's in a separate window, you can refresh with the weird button at the top right. Otherwise it's shift-apple-r to reload a thread, and option-apple-r to reload new answers. Do you want buttons for them?
― stet, Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link
hahaha
t-t-t-totally duuuuude @_@
― air crut (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link
this is amazing stet
(also things do refresh themselves automatically -- it can just be a bit slow if a thread's moving v. quick, but I don't want to poxy fule the server)xp tx!
― stet, Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:46 (fourteen years ago) link
STET FOR PRESIDETN
― tehresa, Thursday, 30 July 2009 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link
gonna d/l when i get home, awesome
― cutty, Thursday, 30 July 2009 18:32 (fourteen years ago) link
we need this ON IPHONE
― dim sum dude (s1ocki), Thursday, 30 July 2009 18:38 (fourteen years ago) link
Tried to post --
"Failed: For Mysterious Reasons"
― Beanbag the Gardener (WmC), Thursday, 30 July 2009 18:51 (fourteen years ago) link
Otherwise, very cool!
How do I post from it?
― I can't make my face turn into a heart (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 30 July 2009 18:55 (fourteen years ago) link
Can you make a new thread from it, too?
Looks way cool. The icon's a trucker hat!
― I can't make my face turn into a heart (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 30 July 2009 18:57 (fourteen years ago) link
iPhone app of this would, of course, be the coolest motherfucking thing ever. I'd sling 59p your way for it.
― I can't make my face turn into a heart (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 30 July 2009 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link
are you gonna post the code anywhere?
― bnw, Thursday, 30 July 2009 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link
so maybe you are aware of this but the auto-refresh affects the thread you are currently reading and makes the thread jump down to the bottom so you have to scroll back up to catch your place again.
― tehresa, Thursday, 30 July 2009 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link
ok, now posting from zing...
― Beanbag the Gardener (WmC), Thursday, 30 July 2009 19:18 (fourteen years ago) link
cool!
Nick: no new threads yet. Press the pencil to show the post box, or double click thread to show in new window
WmC: that's usually the not-clicked remember me that causes that.
Tza: shit, thought I'd fixed that. Is it doing it in the main window or in a pop-out?
― stet, Thursday, 30 July 2009 19:46 (fourteen years ago) link
My post attempt timed out?
― I can't make my face turn into a heart (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 30 July 2009 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link
That's a new one, not seen that before. Are you on a slow connection?
― stet, Thursday, 30 July 2009 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link
in the main window
― tehresa, Thursday, 30 July 2009 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link
Jesus, this has grown legs somewhat since I last saw it. And arms. And got itself a hat.
Huge respect.
― grimly fiendish, Thursday, 30 July 2009 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Broadband; uploads can be slow but I've never had a problem with posting or emailing without attachments.
― I can't make my face turn into a heart (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 30 July 2009 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link
tza: am finding it hard to replicate that scrolling bug. Is it doing it every single time?
Nick: that's very odd. I'll go on modem later and see if I can make that happen. Sorry!
― stet, Thursday, 30 July 2009 21:28 (fourteen years ago) link
You rule, stet. Love this.
― never name anything coolpix (kenan), Thursday, 30 July 2009 21:37 (fourteen years ago) link
tza: got it! It scrolls to end when the boards refresh, weirdly. will fix.
― stet, Thursday, 30 July 2009 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link
plz port to windoze
― the stain specialist (Viceroy), Thursday, 30 July 2009 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link
Can I post from Zing now, I wonder?
― I can't make my face turn into a heart (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 31 July 2009 06:56 (fourteen years ago) link
It seems that I can!
Huzzah!
plz to finish ifone app k thx.
― Jack Battery-Pack, Friday, 31 July 2009 07:17 (fourteen years ago) link
This is a fucking awesome little tool. Any way I can increase font / fontsize?
― I can't make my face turn into a heart (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 31 July 2009 07:19 (fourteen years ago) link
xp "Hey guys I just spent untold hours building this really cool thing that you can now have for free!"
"Yeah, great. I want it to do this other thing."
― never name anything coolpix (kenan), Friday, 31 July 2009 07:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Plz allow me to pay u money for iPhone app.
― ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Friday, 31 July 2009 08:18 (fourteen years ago) link
I only use ilx to sb these days where's my sb link fool!!!!!!
― read ur post, phoned a somnambulance (cozwn), Friday, 31 July 2009 08:51 (fourteen years ago) link
haha
― I can't make my face turn into a heart (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 31 July 2009 09:06 (fourteen years ago) link
poor pc-using me doesn't get to play with the cool kids' toys "-/
― forkshighway (The Reverend), Friday, 31 July 2009 09:28 (fourteen years ago) link
http://i.zdnet.com/blogs/nelson-muntz.gif
― never name anything coolpix (kenan), Friday, 31 July 2009 09:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Go play Flight Simulator, Rev!
― http://tinyurl.com/mnd3bd (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 31 July 2009 14:26 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm not sure about all the space that's taken up by the board list in the left column. I doubt most ILXers look at it all that often. Maybe a way to select your favourite boards from a drop-down?
― fields of salmon, Friday, 31 July 2009 15:30 (fourteen years ago) link
if you press the circle button on the bottom left the list does go away, if that's any help?
― stet, Friday, 31 July 2009 15:31 (fourteen years ago) link
(Ah! I haven't actually downloaded it. I'm just looking at the screen shot.)
― fields of salmon, Friday, 31 July 2009 15:37 (fourteen years ago) link
You can also adjust that column to make it thinner. I use it reasonably often, if only to flit from ILE to ILM.
― I can't make my face turn into a heart (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 31 July 2009 15:52 (fourteen years ago) link
!!!!
I missed this thread earlier
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 10 August 2009 23:11 (fourteen years ago) link
holy shit
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 10 August 2009 23:57 (fourteen years ago) link
i am truly stunned
I haven't forgotten about this, but since the most asked for feature was an iPhone version I decided to have a stab at that. It's not *too* shabby, so far.http://www.ilxor.com/~stet/zingimg/ZingMsg.pnghttp://www.ilxor.com/~stet/zingimg/Zingborads.pnghttp://www.ilxor.com/~stet/zingimg/ZingThread.png
― stet, Thursday, 27 August 2009 22:28 (fourteen years ago) link
arg forgot to resize them, sorry
― stet, Thursday, 27 August 2009 22:29 (fourteen years ago) link
ooh looks cool
― jergins, Thursday, 27 August 2009 22:37 (fourteen years ago) link
at last, a reason to buy an iphone.
seriously, beautiful beautiful work. I want.
― narcissistic late-20s liberal arts grad on ilx right now (sciolism), Thursday, 27 August 2009 22:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh wow.
Seriously, let me pay you for this.
― ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Thursday, 27 August 2009 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link
stet! <3
― tehresa, Thursday, 27 August 2009 23:12 (fourteen years ago) link
Brilliant. :-D
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 27 August 2009 23:12 (fourteen years ago) link
you tha man
[not sent from my iphone which i don't have yet]
― unban dictionary (blueski), Thursday, 27 August 2009 23:17 (fourteen years ago) link
wow AMAZING!!!
― Miss Fitzhenry (s1ocki), Friday, 28 August 2009 00:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Will this work on an iPod touch as well? *curious*. If so, what v of the s/w do I need cos I think I'm a couple revisions behind.
― Spy in the Cab Sav (Trayce), Friday, 28 August 2009 00:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Thanks guys! Yeah it will work on iPod tooch, but you'll need a wifi connection to use it (I played with storing threads offline, but to be useful you'd want to dl a whole board, and that's server killing. I might try to just dl all yr bookmarks, for a short tube trip or something)
― stet, Friday, 28 August 2009 00:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh buttered corpse, yeah. I like to ILX in bed, sometimes.
Hm... TMI, perhaps.
― Spy in the Cab Sav (Trayce), Friday, 28 August 2009 00:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh forgot to say, it needs 3.0. It's worth getting anyway, it's miles better.
― stet, Friday, 28 August 2009 00:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Arse, I dont have 3.0 yet, but this might be an incentive to! :)
Excellent work btw :)
― Spy in the Cab Sav (Trayce), Friday, 28 August 2009 00:57 (fourteen years ago) link
AMAZONG. want!
― JimD, Friday, 28 August 2009 01:16 (fourteen years ago) link
has it been submitted to appledapple?
― Miss Fitzhenry (s1ocki), Friday, 28 August 2009 04:09 (fourteen years ago) link
you are so awsum
― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Friday, 28 August 2009 10:02 (fourteen years ago) link
thought of making it (the full Mac OSX version) growl? </moon + stick>
― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Friday, 28 August 2009 10:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Does anyone know about a mac emulator that will run this on a pc? (Yeah yeah, nelson ha ha again)
― StanM, Friday, 28 August 2009 10:48 (fourteen years ago) link
It's not at Apple yet, there are a few bugs still (mostly with bloody webkit and with the OG phone running out of memory on big threads). Next week I reckon.
Al: yeah, that looks easy enough. In my build here I post notifications when new bookmarks or new posts arrive, so I could stick Growl on the end of that.
― stet, Friday, 28 August 2009 11:00 (fourteen years ago) link
this combination gives me chills
― #/.'#/'@ilikecats (g-kit), Friday, 28 August 2009 13:32 (fourteen years ago) link
Just wait until Stet programs it to have each post talk in the original poster's voice.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 August 2009 13:33 (fourteen years ago) link
who is the original poster, if not you ned?
― Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Friday, 28 August 2009 13:34 (fourteen years ago) link
Mysterious.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 August 2009 13:41 (fourteen years ago) link
WANT. You are awesome, Stet.
― schwantz, Friday, 28 August 2009 15:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah once this is on the app store ima get it for sure, even if you wanna charge for it :)
― Spy in the Cab Sav (Trayce), Saturday, 29 August 2009 00:57 (fourteen years ago) link
bug report? i had zing running earlier and it just randomly quit. i wasn't even using it, it was just on. that is probably not so helpful!
― tehresa, Saturday, 29 August 2009 00:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Ah, yeah, it'll have been the session timing out. It falls on its ass if that happens, but i've fixed that now. Much better Mac Zing coming when I get this iPhone one out.
― stet, Saturday, 29 August 2009 01:01 (fourteen years ago) link
^ilx's most inspirational figure
― jergins, Saturday, 29 August 2009 01:41 (fourteen years ago) link
we need a bait thread for the apple testers
― jergins, Saturday, 29 August 2009 01:42 (fourteen years ago) link
You snake.
― StanM, Saturday, 29 August 2009 06:07 (fourteen years ago) link
<3
― Suedey 2, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 11:23 (fourteen years ago) link
Any idea of an ETA on the iPhone app? I'm salivating.
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 11:38 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm goin to submit it on Thursday and then it's down to Apple ...
― stet, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 12:18 (fourteen years ago) link
does zing refresh in realtime?
― cozwn (webinar), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 12:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Is there anyway to get apps other than via the App store?
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 12:24 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah can you not let 10 of us test it or something? or did they do away w/tht
― cozwn, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 12:26 (fourteen years ago) link
woo-hoo, this is all kinds of awesome
― Gigolo Grasiento (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 12:54 (fourteen years ago) link
No real-time refresh, that'd take server push and that's a lotta work for not much better than hitting refresh.
I can do private builds but they're clunky a kind of a pain. Will look into it if Apple drag their heels
― stet, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 14:18 (fourteen years ago) link
is it really bad i finally got the ipod touch upgrade so i can use this when it is eventually available?
― tehresa, Thursday, 3 September 2009 04:43 (fourteen years ago) link
what in the hell, how did i miss this
― crabRCISE (gbx), Thursday, 3 September 2009 04:47 (fourteen years ago) link
this post is coming from inside the app
― crabRCISE (gbx), Thursday, 3 September 2009 04:49 (fourteen years ago) link
Hahah tza thats what is going to be my impetus too ;_;
― our soldiers die like chickens day by day (Trayce), Thursday, 3 September 2009 05:16 (fourteen years ago) link
I know, this has persuaded me into buying an iPhone finally :-)
― young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 September 2009 07:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Is it on the store? How've you got it gbx?
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 3 September 2009 08:18 (fourteen years ago) link
i think he meant just zing for regular computers?
― tehresa, Thursday, 3 September 2009 18:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Ah.
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 3 September 2009 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Any word from the app store?
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 12 September 2009 09:01 (fourteen years ago) link
keep your pants on
― mountain G.O.A.T. (s1ocki), Saturday, 12 September 2009 12:07 (fourteen years ago) link
where my zing at
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 11:46 (fourteen years ago) link
I thinking it going to be this week. Surely.
While I'm waiting, I'm adding bookmarks to Zing Mac, but was also wondering if anyone would like a like menubar thing that glowed when you had updated bookmarks, showed you what they were, and opened them in a browser?
― stet, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 11:51 (fourteen years ago) link
Bugger. Rejected for having "henfap" as one of the keywords. Had to submit new binaries, so could take another 7-14 days. Sigh.
― stet, Saturday, 17 October 2009 02:07 (fourteen years ago) link
I will never buy another Apple product as long as I live, this is lunacy.
― ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Saturday, 17 October 2009 02:10 (fourteen years ago) link
heh, meant to quote there. Anyway, f u apple and your henfap hating ways
― ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Saturday, 17 October 2009 02:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Rejected for having "henfap" as one of the keywords.
Umm...could this be explained, somehow?
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 17 October 2009 03:18 (fourteen years ago) link
You're not allowed keywords that aren't linked to the app, and I figured it'd take even longer to explain the link as to just take it out.
― stet, Saturday, 17 October 2009 03:29 (fourteen years ago) link
"it's, uhh, something you need to have." lol, might not cut it with testers. thanks for all your work, stet, this is gonna be great.
― jergins, Saturday, 17 October 2009 03:42 (fourteen years ago) link
Any signs of a new update to the desktop app?
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 01:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh, yeah! Are folks still using it? I don't get any stats, so I didn't know. If you are, yeah, I learned a lot from the iPhone version so could do a pretty big update, with bookmarking and polls etc. I'll see about making some time for it.
― stet, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 01:42 (fourteen years ago) link
roxor!
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 02:02 (fourteen years ago) link
i would be interested in this
― remembrance of schwings past (gbx), Friday, 12 August 2011 14:41 (twelve years ago) link
<-- also interested
― diamonddave85, Friday, 12 August 2011 16:13 (twelve years ago) link
<-- could also assist with development
If I do the work required to make an iPad version it'll make doing a new Mac version way easier. I cld just do a framework that wraps the API essentially, and you could build on that maybe?
― stet, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 23:17 (twelve years ago) link
I would pay for and use both.
― Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 23:28 (twelve years ago) link
So there y'are, six quid guaranteed.
― Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 23:29 (twelve years ago) link
can i just say that with the new system font on iOS this is finally REALLY THE WAY ILX IS SUPPOSED TO BE
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 October 2015 12:32 (eight years ago) link
where did the top left "back" button go in this new update. is it just me?
― let's talk about gecs baby (sleeve), Saturday, 1 February 2020 01:23 (four years ago) link
oh nm I thought it was on the home screen but it's in thread view, sorry
― let's talk about gecs baby (sleeve), Saturday, 1 February 2020 01:24 (four years ago) link
https://i.ibb.co/MRMPZp5/Screenshot-2020-05-14-at-17-27-09.png
― stet, Thursday, 14 May 2020 16:28 (four years ago) link
🤯
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 14 May 2020 17:11 (four years ago) link
only took ten years, like :/
― stet, Thursday, 14 May 2020 17:13 (four years ago) link
(the last 1% of bugs will take another ten years at this rate)
whaaaaaaat
― lukas, Thursday, 14 May 2020 17:26 (four years ago) link
is that a desktop client?
― Mordy, Thursday, 14 May 2020 17:31 (four years ago) link
YESSS
― porlockian solicitor (Karl Malone), Thursday, 14 May 2020 17:35 (four years ago) link
holy cow! might finally be time to switch my work PC to a mac. :)
― DJI, Thursday, 14 May 2020 17:40 (four years ago) link
i’m not sure how i feel about this
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 14 May 2020 20:21 (four years ago) link
Me too. I spent ages wondering if it was worth it now that browsers are so good and fast. But I got tired of testing Zing Touch in the simulator so then I made this as a wrapper ... and then I found I was using it nearly exclusively. Need to add search but it's pretty usable. I'll put up a beta if people would like a play.
― stet, Thursday, 14 May 2020 20:51 (four years ago) link
yes, please!
― DJI, Thursday, 14 May 2020 21:20 (four years ago) link
I'm in.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 15 May 2020 01:22 (three years ago) link
OK, here goes!It's definitely a beta but it's OK to use for checking bookmarks and posting.Notes:- Search isn't implemented yet- Nor are themes (but dark mode works)- Can't favourite borads- Can't cmd-c on selected message text, you have to right-click- Single-pane mode (close the message list from X) is a little buggy.- The menubar checker drags off but doesn't resize.Download here: https://www.ilxor.com/MacZing.zip
― stet, Friday, 15 May 2020 09:29 (three years ago) link
(Oh also: drag it out of the Downloads folder before opening it for best results)
― stet, Friday, 15 May 2020 09:30 (three years ago) link
downloading now - thanks stet. zing is genuinely one of the best apps on my phone, so looking forward to giving this a go.
― Fizzles, Friday, 15 May 2020 09:36 (three years ago) link
and posting from it now : )
― Fizzles, Friday, 15 May 2020 09:39 (three years ago) link
Stet is the man
― calstars, Friday, 15 May 2020 09:50 (three years ago) link
Trying this now. thanks. Right now all my bookmarks are duplicated. Two lines for every one (to the tune of "Surf City").
― Louder Than Bach's Bottom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 May 2020 14:29 (three years ago) link
oooh that's weird. Can you check you don't accidentally have two accounts listed? (In preferences go to the accounts tab)
― stet, Friday, 15 May 2020 14:31 (three years ago) link
Same account listed twice, yes.
― Louder Than Bach's Bottom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 May 2020 14:39 (three years ago) link
I deleted one at which point it logged me off. I logged back on. Now it shows no accounts.
― Louder Than Bach's Bottom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 May 2020 14:41 (three years ago) link
well done me - if you trying adding once more it should hopefully work
― stet, Friday, 15 May 2020 14:45 (three years ago) link
Now it's there twice again.
― Louder Than Bach's Bottom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 May 2020 14:46 (three years ago) link
But this time I deleted the first and not the second and now I'm back down to one.
― Louder Than Bach's Bottom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 May 2020 14:47 (three years ago) link
Trying this now -- works very nicely from here!
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 May 2020 14:50 (three years ago) link
Works pretty good for me. ILX links in posts open in my browser though.
― DJI, Friday, 15 May 2020 15:10 (three years ago) link
Yes, this later was kind of shocking, tbh, although I suppose it makes sense.
― Louder Than Bach's Bottom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 May 2020 15:25 (three years ago) link
i don't prefer it to the website (and i think it's a little slower) but still v cool
― Mordy, Friday, 15 May 2020 15:25 (three years ago) link
Works fine, but I'll have to stay with the browser until I can enlarge type in zing.
― herds of unmasked cletuses (WmC), Friday, 15 May 2020 15:27 (three years ago) link
It’s obvious how much Apple has neglected the Mac when you start coding for it again. Like on iPhone I can really easily set everything to the user’s preferred text size. There’s no support for that on Mac at all. Changing the link behaviour is really easy, I’ll do that.
― stet, Friday, 15 May 2020 16:15 (three years ago) link
So cool. Couple things: - I can drag to change the width of the threads list, but as soon as I let go it snaps back - It'd be nice if arrows/PgDn/PgUp worked to scrollposted from MacZing
― lukas, Friday, 15 May 2020 16:29 (three years ago) link
thanks! got the width bug. The page up/dn thing is harder - it's the same bug as copy/paste note working. will take a look over the weekend
― stet, Friday, 15 May 2020 16:35 (three years ago) link
oh maybe that's what you meant by menubar checkerhaven't tried writing a Mac desktop app but it doesn't surprise me they've let the frameworks stagnate.
― lukas, Friday, 15 May 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link
Now I have five copies of each bookmark. Only one account listed in Preferences.
― Louder Than Bach's Bottom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 May 2020 19:39 (three years ago) link
What version of macOS are you running? It seems like this might be linked to how the keychain stores passwords
― stet, Friday, 15 May 2020 19:43 (three years ago) link
Mojave, sorry.
― Louder Than Bach's Bottom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 May 2020 19:52 (three years ago) link
It actually went up to six for a while. Just logged off and back on again
― Louder Than Bach's Bottom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 May 2020 20:28 (three years ago) link
Maybe it has to do with logging onto the browser at the same time?
― Louder Than Bach's Bottom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 May 2020 21:05 (three years ago) link
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― Louder Than Bach's Bottom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 May 2020 21:07 (three years ago) link
Lol. That was supposed to be grasping at straws dot com.
Are you running from the Downloads folder?The problem (I think) is that it is trying to save your settings and somehow failing and repeatedly trying. Quarantine might conceivably cause that; and moving it out of the Download folder will remove quarantine from it. (You might also need to erase ~/Library/Containers/com.haunteddancehall.maczing (or similar) before trying again. Sorry! Beta 4 lyfe
― stet, Friday, 15 May 2020 21:58 (three years ago) link
Yeah, I might be doing something like that, thanks.
― Louder Than Bach's Bottom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 May 2020 21:59 (three years ago) link
Might be nice to see the current thread with some kind of subtle highlight in the threads list.
― lukas, Sunday, 17 May 2020 03:56 (three years ago) link
This is how I read ILX now. Shut up and take my money, etc.
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 23 May 2020 21:02 (three years ago) link
I'd been wondering whether to bother doing more work on it, so that's good to hear! I'm getting quite into using it in one-pane mode (cmd-1, cmd-2) in a small window over to the side — it sits nicely beside Tweetdeck.
― stet, Saturday, 23 May 2020 21:27 (three years ago) link
i'm not sure it *really* has enough over the browser functionality, then again, i'm using it now. Ctrl+D for bookmarking open threads is *incredibly* useful (would be useful to have a shortcut to unbookmark as well). Second lukas's request for some sort of shading in the open thread when using it in 2-pane mode. i can see if it had a bit more functionality it could easily become my default on mac.
― Fizzles, Sunday, 24 May 2020 09:54 (three years ago) link
actually i was just thinking how nice it would be to have full reader/email shortcut functionality - p/n for going up and down between messages, j/k for going up and down between bookmarks/threads. r for replying to a particular message in focus, automatically taking the message body and putting it in quote or italic bbcode brackets etc. so consider me interested! and actually *is* there a way to remove a bookmark from a thread?
― Fizzles, Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:11 (three years ago) link
and filtering bookmarks according to boards. sorry i'm getting carried away now - i know this is a spare time thing. on a basic using it point - it would be nice if clicking on a thread took you to the most recent post, or the most recently read post – i can't quite understand the existing behaviour about which post it goes to when you click on a thread.
― Fizzles, Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:16 (three years ago) link
no, keep this coming, I love it! The only way to remove a bookmark right now is to right-click (or ctrl-click) on the bookmark itself and choose "remove". Board-level bookmarks is a great idea, too. The thread behaviour isn't right, no. The way it works right now is that if you click a bookmark you see the thread starting from your last bookmark, if you choose a thread from new answers you get shown the 50 oldest and 50 most recent posts, with a fold in the middle. What it should really do is know if you've opened a thread before and if so take you to the most recent posts.
― stet, Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:25 (three years ago) link
ah right, interesting, thanks stet, and thanks on the remove bookmark instructions. also, i *think* if you have something that looks like bbcode that's incorrectly closed out, it will just go NOPE, rather than allowing a 'post anyway?' option. tbf my bracketing so often does require checking and revising you could argue this is *no bad thing*.
― Fizzles, Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:37 (three years ago) link
using now, seems great. will update if i run into any trouble. thanks for working on this :)
― devvvine, Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:49 (three years ago) link
using MacZing for the first time right now! boldly, in italics, underlining...
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 24 May 2020 13:48 (three years ago) link
formatting: CHECK
having a great time! i'm also going to throw some ideas out as i go - take with a grain of salt, of course. Is there a way to increase the size of the text submission area? i see that if i keep typing, it starts to add extra space, but it would be great if it could be manually resized by dragging the edge of the pane.(by the way, for people who haven't checked this out - one really cool quality of life thing is that you can scroll through the rest of the thread while keeping the message submission box on the screen. will be very handy for composing ridiculous messages in threads where people are rite and rong all over the place
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 24 May 2020 13:58 (three years ago) link
another small thing that might be nice - a subtle visual cue showing you which thread you're viewing from the site new answers and/or bookmarks. pro mock-up:https://i.imgur.com/nPkIWvH.jpg
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 24 May 2020 14:01 (three years ago) link
finally, would be neat if clicking the little red hat in the corner made a frog croaking noise
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 24 May 2020 14:02 (three years ago) link
a more serious bug - i keep getting the Poxy Fule error when clicking the "view previous page..." link in a bookmark.
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 24 May 2020 14:08 (three years ago) link
one more thought for today - is there a way to open multiple threads at once? i am an ilx multitabber, in general
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 24 May 2020 14:09 (three years ago) link
If you CMD-click or double click on a thread it should open in a new tab, yep.
― stet, Sunday, 24 May 2020 15:20 (three years ago) link
would love a Linux version I'll see myself out
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Sunday, 24 May 2020 15:38 (three years ago) link
just remembered at one point I had started writing an emacs mode for reading ILX. any interest? I'll see myself out again
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Sunday, 24 May 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link
Only if make a vim version as well.
― Spocks on the Run (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 May 2020 17:41 (three years ago) link
I’ll give you details of the API if it’d help, diamonddave85
― stet, Sunday, 24 May 2020 17:53 (three years ago) link
I've fixed that horrible poxy fule error on previous pages – if the thread view looks unstyled after the update, right-click on it and choose "refresh" to fix.
― stet, Friday, 5 June 2020 00:47 (three years ago) link
New release looks good thanks.
― Jeff Sunship (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 13 June 2020 15:05 (three years ago) link
If you CMD-click or double click on a thread it should open in a new tab, yep.This was working for me at one point but not anymore.
― Jeff Sunship (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 13 June 2020 15:06 (three years ago) link
looks like there's a crashing bug there if you cmd-click in certain circs, thanks
― stet, Saturday, 13 June 2020 15:32 (three years ago) link
Hm. Didn’t actually crash for me, just wasn’t working but now it does again.
― Jeff Sunship (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 13 June 2020 15:37 (three years ago) link
Oh wait. I see, it works with bookmarks but not from Site New Answers.
― Jeff Sunship (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 13 June 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link
Zing isn't remembering the window size between launches. Is this a known thing or should I toss prefs? (I'm on build 88)
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 02:53 (three years ago) link
It’s a known thing, I’ll upload a fixed version when I get near WiFi again
― stet, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 10:32 (three years ago) link
uploaded a new version now to sort that
― stet, Sunday, 2 August 2020 16:47 (three years ago) link
thanks!
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 2 August 2020 19:26 (three years ago) link
Possibly an option to open threads from SNA at the bottom / newest?
― lukas, Sunday, 2 August 2020 20:05 (three years ago) link
Here to a report with this revealing hidden text when returning search results or displaying latest post of a bookmarked thread in the left panel. See for instance Babylon 5
― It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 29 March 2021 15:00 (three years ago) link
thanks - the next beta fixes it. haven't pushed it out yet because it's broken in dark mode
― stet, Tuesday, 30 March 2021 11:21 (three years ago) link
Thanks!
― It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 11:24 (three years ago) link
Don’t what was going on with the beginning of that sentence.
― It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 11:29 (three years ago) link
Any chance of adding a preference panel for changing the app icon? I was about to screen-share with a work client and had sudden dread that they would think I was using some secret MAGA chud.net client.
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 28 June 2021 01:33 (two years ago) link
Oh my god I never made the connection. Fucking Trump. Yes, I’ll come up with something.
― stet, Monday, 28 June 2021 09:25 (two years ago) link
yeah can’t unsee now :(
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 28 June 2021 10:00 (two years ago) link
Wait, ILX isn’t a trump fan forum? I’m out of here!! ;)
― Karl Malone, Monday, 28 June 2021 13:06 (two years ago) link
Make America Gear! Again
― Alba, Monday, 28 June 2021 13:13 (two years ago) link
If I were home I could whip this up quickly, but I’d like to see an icon with hundreds of tiny mouths talking to Raul how other, with twice as many ears - at ILX, we sure do talk a lot. But we also listen.
― Karl Malone, Monday, 28 June 2021 13:15 (two years ago) link
That garbled by my lord Raul, but hopefully the meaning comes through
― Karl Malone, Monday, 28 June 2021 13:16 (two years ago) link
The view previous page Poxy Fule bug went away on MacZing when I updated my OS this morning.
― What Does Blecch Mean to Me? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 14 September 2021 16:54 (two years ago) link
So I never noticed until today that I could click on a timestamp and the relevant permalink to the post would show up in Safari.
― Solaris Ocean Blue (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 18 February 2022 02:04 (two years ago) link
Similar to Facepalm permalink trick I also just learned.
― Solaris Ocean Blue (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 18 February 2022 02:31 (two years ago) link
Would like to request a hide threads feature whenever you have time to look at zing again, would make the zing experience that much better I feel.
― gyac, Thursday, 16 June 2022 12:14 (one year ago) link
sure – just checking, zing for mac or iphone?
― stet, Sunday, 19 June 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link
I’d like to request the hide tags being added to the iOS apps formatting list.
― Alba, Sunday, 19 June 2022 18:30 (one year ago) link
― gyac, Sunday, 19 June 2022 19:12 (one year ago) link
Has anyone else had a problem where as it's left open, accounts appear to duplicate, and bookmarks with them? I'm not sure if they're doubling every time, but so far I have had 2, 4 and 8 accounts showing.
screenshots:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/r3u0y6yflfkbh9o/Screenshot%202023-07-27%20at%2014.14.55.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ggvnvw9xkrb5zz2/Screenshot%202023-07-27%20at%2014.15.04.png?dl=0
if I delete any of these extra accounts and restart, I have to log in again.
― toby, Thursday, 27 July 2023 12:17 (nine months ago) link
What build are you on toby? There was a bug in older ones that caused that but I thought it had been fixed
― stet, Saturday, 29 July 2023 10:10 (nine months ago) link
I had that problem for a long time on my desktop.
― Poor Little Fool Killer (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 29 July 2023 11:16 (nine months ago) link
I *think* the way I solved it was by staying logged off in certain browsers and only using the app.
― Poor Little Fool Killer (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 29 July 2023 11:17 (nine months ago) link
(For reference, the latest build is "101".
― stet, Saturday, 29 July 2023 13:32 (nine months ago) link
Like in 1984 or the pre-Clash Joe Strummer project.
― Poor Little Fool Killer (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 29 July 2023 13:36 (nine months ago) link
Where does one even get the latest build? I tried the link in the first post and it seemed to be an older build.
― Poor Little Fool Killer (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 29 July 2023 13:56 (nine months ago) link
I've just uploaded the latest build to that same address - https://ilxor.com/MacZing.zip - and if it's stable enough I'll push it to existing users soon.If you are still seeing the multiple-accounts bug, you might need to quit Zing and trash the ~/Library/Containers/MacZing folder before trying again
― stet, Saturday, 29 July 2023 16:21 (nine months ago) link
Thanks. Downloaded. I keep getting a color wheel of death when I try to load threads, both with the old build and new. Not sure if it is a proxy issue or some cache I need to clean or restart. Also having some problems loading virtual backgrounds on Zoom, maybe it’s related.
― Poor Little Fool Killer (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 29 July 2023 19:46 (nine months ago) link
Aka Spinning Wait Cursor or Spinning Beach Ball of Death (SBBOD)
― Poor Little Fool Killer (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 29 July 2023 20:00 (nine months ago) link
Got rid of all my bookmarks to see if that would help. Wonder if there is some other cache I can clean or delete. Before I resort to trouble-shooting 101, restart your machine.
― Poor Little Fool Killer (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 29 July 2023 20:03 (nine months ago) link
The only cache relevant to Zing is that folder listed above, if you delete that you should be all set. It does use the system networking so if you have system-wide problems I can see that affecting it. What version of macOS are you running?
― stet, Saturday, 29 July 2023 20:06 (nine months ago) link
Monterey. Can't upgrade this old mac much further. But restart did the trick, restart was the ticket, fixed my other problem as well. Thank you for your support in this matter.
― Poor Little Fool Killer (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 29 July 2023 20:15 (nine months ago) link
Build 101 has a NOT sign on top of the grayed out red trucker cap. Assuming that means it's not considered production yet.
― Poor Little Fool Killer (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 29 July 2023 20:18 (nine months ago) link
One thing I love love love about MacZing is the persistence of the last search term.
― Poor Little Fool Killer (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 29 July 2023 20:21 (nine months ago) link
Doesn't persist through a restart but I'll live. Any new features I should check out. I see "History works a bit better" when I click Help>What's New? not sure what it means exactly.
― Poor Little Fool Killer (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 29 July 2023 20:23 (nine months ago) link
It’s a euphemism for “the old history was incredibly buggy”
― stet, Saturday, 29 July 2023 20:38 (nine months ago) link
Lol
― Poor Little Fool Killer (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 29 July 2023 20:38 (nine months ago) link
So now it should work as expected. I think.
I seem to remember that but had just stopped using it for ages.
I just redownloaded from the link above and reinstalled (now build 102), I still have the excess of bookmarks but I'll delete the account and see if it happens again. Thanks!
― toby, Sunday, 30 July 2023 13:10 (nine months ago) link
Oh also: don’t run it from the Downloads folder, drag it literally anywhere else first - there’s a special quarantine state for apps in there
― stet, Sunday, 30 July 2023 17:29 (nine months ago) link
I think deleting the cache was the key, thanks - it seems to be doing OK now.
― toby, Sunday, 30 July 2023 18:59 (nine months ago) link
Really enjoying using this now - thanks for making it! Stupid question: is it possible to navigate completely with the keyboard? e.g. I can go up and down the bookmarks list, and once I've clicked on a bookmark and then on the answers pane I can scroll up and down, but I don't know how do this from the keyboard (I tried hitting enter, for example).
― toby, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 05:17 (nine months ago) link
That’s the ambition, but it has proved a bit trickier to implement than I expected. I’ll have a think about how to do it.
― stet, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 16:53 (nine months ago) link
Great, thanks!
Also - any chance of killfile? I miss it from the phone.
― toby, Saturday, 5 August 2023 11:11 (nine months ago) link