Come anticipate "The Dark Knight Rises" with *BATSPOILERS*

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Because Gary Oldman says it's on:

Oldman, who was at Comic-Con to promote "The Book of Eli," was reportedly asked by a Comic-Con attendee when the next film in the series would begin shooting. He told the crowd that the film would go before cameras in 2010, and then quickly added, "But you didn't hear that from me."

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This isn't the first time Oldman has possibly spoken out of turn about a forthcoming "Batman" film. While promoting "The Dark Knight," Oldman was quoted as saying, "Maybe we don't need the Joker. Because we'll have the Riddler."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 July 2009 19:52 (nine years ago) Permalink

please please please don't use the Riddler

girlish in the worst sense of that term (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 24 July 2009 19:54 (nine years ago) Permalink

A sinister Riddler or Penguin might be pretty excellent. (I thought both Carrey and DeVito did excellent jobs at the campy versions, although I HATED Carrey's costumer.)

Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Friday, 24 July 2009 19:55 (nine years ago) Permalink

That campy tone would be out of place for the new series. I've heard about other villians, not Riddler. Can't recall their names now. . . Dark Mask, maybe? Something about a mask melted onto the villian's face.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 24 July 2009 19:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

DeVito did way better than I would've expected with the character, but even so there's some basic psychology behind that character that provides for some essential drama (he's an archetypal deformed outcast, etc.) The Riddler's got none of that. He's a one-dimensional gag villain, there's no way to make the character plausible or emotionally engaging, because his central characteristic (that he's a compulsive leaver of convoluted clues) is basically really fucking stupid.

girlish in the worst sense of that term (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 24 July 2009 20:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

Something about a mask melted onto the villian's face.

holding out hope for Clayface

but then most of the moviegoing public are totally unfamiliar with that character

girlish in the worst sense of that term (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 24 July 2009 20:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

Looks like I was wrong: Riddler (Johnny Depp) and Penguin (Phillip Seymour Hoffman).

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 24 July 2009 20:02 (nine years ago) Permalink

Oh, and Cloris Leachman as Catwoman. Oh! Sorry, I meant Cher, maybe.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 24 July 2009 20:05 (nine years ago) Permalink

If you pare The Riddler down to his core, he's basically the dude who's convinced he is smarter than everyone else around him to the degree where he arrogantly thinks he can leave riddles that, when deciphered, will tell people exactly what he's doing but that the people opposed to him are too stupid to figure them out in time. Add onto that some more realistic trappings like maybe the "Die Hard With A Vengeance" diversion idea where the riddles actually lead people AWAY from him rather than towards him and you've got more than enough meat to make a more plausible version of the character than you would expect given his comic book silliness.

Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Friday, 24 July 2009 20:06 (nine years ago) Permalink

probably not going to happen, but I thought that the guy playing Scarecrow in the first one was the best part of this whole franchise ... why doesn't he get a whole movie?

tylerw, Friday, 24 July 2009 20:06 (nine years ago) Permalink

Uh, he got most of the first one and a minor chunk of the second, what more do you want!

Depp as The Riddler also opens up an entire avenue for the character to get over on a combination of intellect and charm, making him more plausible as well.

Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Friday, 24 July 2009 20:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

zack galifinakis as the riddler and seth rogen as the penguin

highway to sarahel (J0rdan S.), Friday, 24 July 2009 20:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

eh, just seemed like he was on the periphery of the first one (main baddie was Liam Neeson, right?) and was barely in the second. xpost

tylerw, Friday, 24 July 2009 20:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

If you pare The Riddler down to his core, he's basically the dude who's convinced he is smarter than everyone else around him to the degree where he arrogantly thinks he can leave riddles that, when deciphered, will tell people exactly what he's doing but that the people opposed to him are too stupid to figure them out in time

why are you talking shit about Morbs when he's not around?

Heric E. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 July 2009 20:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

If it's The Riddler, I expect the moviemakers to take the character to an evil, twisted place (the way they did with The Joker, who was -- admittedly -- a much more menacing character than The Riddler was, but The Riddler could be a wiry, insane little villian too, with the right script and actor).

BTW, Scarecrow was awesome, and they should have given him a bigger role.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 24 July 2009 20:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

Sorry if I'm (more) incoherent (than usual). On vacation. Had a drink.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 24 July 2009 20:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

Looks like I was wrong: Riddler (Johnny Depp) and Penguin (Phillip Seymour Hoffman).

― Daniel, Esq.

please those were "rumored" since TDK went into production. How can they have villains chosen and cast before they have a writer and director signed on?

master of karate and friendship for everyone (musically), Friday, 24 July 2009 20:13 (nine years ago) Permalink

yeah, biggest laugh/biggest scare in the whole series for me is that "would you like to see my mask" scarecrow scene ...

tylerw, Friday, 24 July 2009 20:14 (nine years ago) Permalink

I did not think Scarecrow was a minor character in "Batman Begins" at all!

Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Friday, 24 July 2009 20:15 (nine years ago) Permalink

So, Depp is going from the Mad Hatter to The Riddler. I think that Depp needs a more low-key role...something that shows he's still ADEPPT at doing a more nuanced, subtle thing. Not another larger-than-life weirdo. It's getting stale. How about Paul Giammatti (spelling?) as the Penguin?

SourPatchCorpse, Friday, 24 July 2009 20:16 (nine years ago) Permalink

as a villain, I definitely liked the Scarecrow more than Ras Al Guhl... but it would seem weird to resort to him as the central villain for the third film, would be kinda taking a step backward/treading water.

girlish in the worst sense of that term (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 24 July 2009 20:17 (nine years ago) Permalink

I did not think Scarecrow was a minor character in "Batman Begins" at all!
not minor, but certainly not the center of the action in the way the joker was ...

tylerw, Friday, 24 July 2009 20:17 (nine years ago) Permalink

BTW, I saw The Riddler, at his core, as a paranoid, hyperactive, insecure socoipath. To me, the riddles were a gimmick that fed his ego, and helped him deal with his insecurities and a constant sense of dread and paranoid. To me, he was Batman's most unhinged, insane enemy (now, obv., I think of The Joker in that role, but mostly b/c of the movies).

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 24 July 2009 20:19 (nine years ago) Permalink

he was a guy in a question mark costume who told riddles

goole, Friday, 24 July 2009 20:20 (nine years ago) Permalink

fuckin english majors!

goole, Friday, 24 July 2009 20:20 (nine years ago) Permalink

I think the Joker should be in it if only for one scene, like they did for Scarecrow in Dark Knight. A Johnny Depp cameo as the Joker would be pretty awesome I think.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 24 July 2009 20:21 (nine years ago) Permalink

Dan/Daniel - I would assume they would make the Riddler a darker/more twisted character as well, (certainly the rich tradition of films with serial killers leaving compulsive clues behind - se7en, Zodiac, tons of others - springs to mind), but they would really have to make the character into a violent psychopath who's not in control of his behavior for that to work... and that's already such ridiculous, well-travelled ground that I don't think it would be particularly satisfying. That would basically make it a Dirty Harry movie. With costumes.

x-posts

girlish in the worst sense of that term (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 24 July 2009 20:21 (nine years ago) Permalink

I mean I can see it now...

Gordon: Batman! There's a mysterious serial killer on the loose and he's left clues behind, scrawled in blood on the wall!
Batman: I'm on my way

Me: zzzzzzz

girlish in the worst sense of that term (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 24 July 2009 20:23 (nine years ago) Permalink

i do not believe these Depp/Hoffman rumours. Too on-the-nose for Nolan.

sean gramophone, Friday, 24 July 2009 20:23 (nine years ago) Permalink

I remember Mr. Freeze being really awesome on the cartoon Batman show. Scary, tragic.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 24 July 2009 20:23 (nine years ago) Permalink

Even in terms of fictional deaths you're jaded, Shakey Mo.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 July 2009 20:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

maybe they'd make the riddler another rich high tech playboy dude but instead of an insane vigilante he's a goofball who steals stuff, i'd be into that

goole, Friday, 24 July 2009 20:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

i always liked this guy when i was a kid
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/69/Ventiloquist_000000475.jpg

tylerw, Friday, 24 July 2009 20:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

ha! Pitt should be the riddler, in his Twelve Monkeys guise

Great Scott! It's Molecular Man. (Ste), Friday, 24 July 2009 20:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

would assume they would make the Riddler a darker/more twisted character as well, (certainly the rich tradition of films with serial killers leaving compulsive clues behind - se7en, Zodiac, tons of others - springs to mind), but they would really have to make the character into a violent psychopath who's not in control of his behavior for that to work... and that's already such ridiculous, well-travelled ground that I don't think it would be particularly satisfying. That would basically make it a Dirty Harry movie. With costumes.

wtf are you talking about?

Why can't they take The Riddler in the direction of the "Die Hard" example I gave, namely a smart, ruthless guy who sets up these elaborate riddles and death traps that all lead AWAY from the prosaic-but-audacious-in-size bank robbery that is his real goal? Not everything has to be about psychos eating eyeballs.

Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Friday, 24 July 2009 20:27 (nine years ago) Permalink

also goole OTM: maybe the prosaic turn is to actually keep a lighter tone but make him more of a thrillseeker thief rather than a tortured baby-spiker

Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Friday, 24 July 2009 20:28 (nine years ago) Permalink

ha now i'm waiting for this: the gotham public likes its new lighthearted costumed villain more than its dour costumed protector who, maybe a reality-show celeb media satire vibe (ok no)

goole, Friday, 24 July 2009 20:31 (nine years ago) Permalink

Hoffman could do his Capote voice as the Penguin.

mile high guy (brownie), Friday, 24 July 2009 20:31 (nine years ago) Permalink

Actually, since Batman is taking the fall for the Two-Face rampage and the death of Harvey Dent, maybe you have one villain be the standard crook and the other one be a vigilante going after Batman for being a menace.

Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Friday, 24 July 2009 20:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

Dan's riddler would have to spend most of the movie getting foiled and/or caught then in the finale switcheroo be successful to work as described. That would mean villain wins. Don't know if that would work. Maybe.

For other uses, see Cornhole (disambiguation). (Oilyrags), Friday, 24 July 2009 20:42 (nine years ago) Permalink

Also kudos to danielesque for posting links to rumors from a year ago.

For other uses, see Cornhole (disambiguation). (Oilyrags), Friday, 24 July 2009 20:45 (nine years ago) Permalink

ty, ty.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 24 July 2009 20:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

There were new to me!

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 24 July 2009 20:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

I remember Mr. Freeze being really awesome on the cartoon Batman show. Scary, tragic.

yup.

also in this: http://www.amazon.com/Batman-Snow-Dan-Curtis-Johnson/dp/1401212654

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51zyPd08SPL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Friday, 24 July 2009 20:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

I'm inclined to think this Depp/Hoffman rumor is bullshit because a) as noted this rumor has been around since before DK was even out, and b) its way more likely that Gyllenhaal will be in the third movie as Catwoman - she's already under contract for three movies, it would fit into the personal transformation/unintended consequences thread of the existing narrative, you don't SEE her die ("cats have 9 lives" lolz). Plus the cat joke/ref in DK.

By all means there could be another villain, but I'll be very surprised if there's no Gyllenhaal as Catwoman.

girlish in the worst sense of that term (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 24 July 2009 20:48 (nine years ago) Permalink

Depp would be completely non-threatening as the Riddler imo, the best thing about the first two movies was Gary Oldham so as long as he's in the next one i'm happy.

same dog, different leg action (Mr Raif), Friday, 24 July 2009 20:51 (nine years ago) Permalink

but I'll be very surprised if there's no Gyllenhaal as Catwoman

(a) would look good in costume; (b) would allow her to play the opposite of the character she played in Secretary.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 24 July 2009 20:53 (nine years ago) Permalink

not minor, but certainly not the center of the action in the way the joker was ...

― tylerw, Friday, July 24, 2009 4:17 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

...which was about two-face as much as it was about the joker in exactly the same way as the first one was about ras al ghul as much as it was about the scarecrow!

julien schNAGL (s1ocki), Saturday, 25 July 2009 18:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

only logical choice imo

Panera - Vulgar Display Of Flour (latebloomer), Saturday, 25 July 2009 18:15 (nine years ago) Permalink

that dude has problems

julien schNAGL (s1ocki), Saturday, 25 July 2009 18:17 (nine years ago) Permalink

Starting with his greasy forelock.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 July 2009 18:23 (nine years ago) Permalink

still crossing my fingers for catwoman. bale's on record saying he wants wayne to knock boots, and I think the sex angle is the only novel place to go post-joker - otherwise it's all just crime bosses with goofy fetishes ("I like cold!" "I like alice in wonderland!")

da croupier, Saturday, 25 July 2009 18:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

i may have posted this on a thread before, but I'd love to have catwoman call out bale's goofy "argh i'm batman" voice and then have him abandon it, as if finally accepting that wayne is the costume and that batman is the real him.

da croupier, Saturday, 25 July 2009 18:27 (nine years ago) Permalink

some other villainy casting ideas i wrote for work a while back

eric roberts didn't actually die, gets really into greek mythology and becomes...maxie zeus!

miley cyrus is a teeage sociopathic joker fan who becomes...harley quinn!

ben foster is a cyberpunk who decides batman is the reason crime bosses are buying funny hats and becomes...anarky!

sly stallone is bane!

da croupier, Saturday, 25 July 2009 18:30 (nine years ago) Permalink

maybe you have one villain be the standard crook and the other one be a vigilante going after Batman for being a menace.

http://www.popculturemadness.com/Entertainment/News/Images/Special.jpg

miley cyrus is a teeage sociopathic joker fan who becomes...harley quinn!

YES.

Leee, Saturday, 25 July 2009 18:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

Pretty cool fan-made poster
http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/riddlerpostercopy.jpg

Number None, Saturday, 25 July 2009 18:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

I was typing 'Batman' into Google and after I clicked search I realized I had actually typed 'Batmoon'

Armageddon Two: Armageddon (dyao), Saturday, 25 July 2009 21:33 (nine years ago) Permalink

Luckily the GIS results were not as bad as I thought they would be

Armageddon Two: Armageddon (dyao), Saturday, 25 July 2009 21:34 (nine years ago) Permalink

Third Rock From The Sun kid to take over the Joker role. Maggie as Catwoman.

I can't make my face turn into a heart (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 26 July 2009 06:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

just... "maggie"?

julien schNAGL (s1ocki), Sunday, 26 July 2009 07:52 (nine years ago) Permalink

maggie smith

Panera - Vulgar Display Of Flour (latebloomer), Sunday, 26 July 2009 07:53 (nine years ago) Permalink

Thatcher. Filming starts tomorrow just in case.

I can't make my face turn into a heart (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 26 July 2009 08:51 (nine years ago) Permalink

I think bringing in Catwoman would be a good idea, but didn't Gyllenhaal's character die in the Dark Knight? They'd require some major retconning to make her into Catwoman. Also, the enemies/partners + sex + costume fetish thing between Bruce and Selina was done so well in Batman Returns, they'd have to find a new angle to that, otherwise they're just biting Burton. I guess Catwoman being an ex of Bruce's who's pissed off at him for letting Joker (supposedly) kill her could provide that angle.

Tuomas, Sunday, 26 July 2009 12:05 (nine years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

I think the only way to top the first two films, and a nice left turn and final nail for the trilogy, would be to have the next film as a huge set piece, something like The Long Halloween (but not that), Dog Day Afternoon or Die Hard.

mei, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 00:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

It's all so old hat now. I say turn Batman evil and psychotic. Make Oldman the hero, sympathetic to Batman because of his past help, but single-mindedly focused on reigning him in.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 22 September 2009 00:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

i like mei's idea

fountain bleaut (s1ocki), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 02:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

The biggest temptation to be overcome is eating from the Multiple Villains tree. Knowing that a series will go that route is like hearing a previously decent band describe the next album as "their Sgt. Pepper," or whatever the best tip-off is that cocaine's on the mixing board and we're all in for something bloated.

Cunga, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 06:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

I say turn Batman evil and psychotic. Make Oldman the hero, sympathetic to Batman because of his past help, but single-mindedly focused on reigning him in.

but that's just using the 'two face' story again, really.

What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 09:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

The biggest temptation to be overcome is eating from the Multiple Villains tree.

They already did that, tho, in TDK. It worked because the stories were linked-up nicely in the script (unlike other attempts at multiple villian films, e.g. Nos. 2 -- 4 of the old Batman franchise).

But generally I agree with you.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 22 September 2009 10:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

I actually don't think it worked that well. Two Face was give fairly short shrift. Don't think we'll be seeing a third movie for a few years anyway.

Number None, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 11:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

Just hoping they don't let Cookie Monster dub his vocals for Batman again!

Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 12:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

The multiple villain thing in "Batman Returns" was great. (well, hero/antihero/villain)

so says i tranny ben franklin (HI DERE), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

oh wait, Christopher Walken was there too so there were multiple villains

so says i tranny ben franklin (HI DERE), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

didn't think it worked, tbh. didn't give two face enough time to develop, especially as he was so central to the drama at the end. he just had a tough scene and turned evil.

What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I thought Dent's transformation to Two-Face was the least credible thing in TDK.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

Alongside the idea that Joker had somehow planned it beforehand that he would transform like that.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

apart from the flying bat billionaire ninja, i assume. xp

What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

I've found its best not to start thinking too hard into how Joker pulled that complicated scheme together, especially the jailbreak, as it involves holes large enough to drive a semi through. Still love the movie to pieces though.

Size-zero-brigade-embrace-token-chubby-chops (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

There's different levels of credibility. Even if it's a fantasy, you have to convince the viewer that what happens is credible within the boundaries of this particular fantasy. Bruce Wayne's transformation in Batman Begins feels believable because so much time and justification is devoted to it. Compared to that, Dent's transformation in TDK feels rushed and random, not quite as believable.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

(x-post)

Tuomas, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

joker jailbreak the big one. but yeah it's still great stuff.

What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

Dent's transformation into Two-Face is being wholly overblown by ppl familiar with the comic books IMO; all he was was a pissed-off dude with a burned face who was exacting vengeance on the ppl he thought were responsible for his fiancee's death.

so says i tranny ben franklin (HI DERE), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

That's true, it wasn't as if he immediately became this "Two Face" personality.

Size-zero-brigade-embrace-token-chubby-chops (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

He did start throwing the coin and thinking justice is random, didn't he? Also, Joker's plan seemed to depend on Dent becoming crazy in a way that would taint his former reputation, which means Joker is helluva planner.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

when is joker NOT portrayed as a helluva intricate planner to the point of complete ridicness?

fountain bleaut (s1ocki), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

Most of the time, at least in comics. Being crazy prepared is Batman's attribute, not really Joker's.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

are you talking about the same joker who schemed to become iran's ambassador to the UN so he could gas everyone and yet claim diplomatic immunity

fountain bleaut (s1ocki), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

maybe they'd make the riddler another rich high tech playboy dude but instead of an insane vigilante he's a goofball who steals stuff, i'd be into that

― goole, Friday, 24 July 2009 16:24 Bookmark

This could be really cool, and it would be a different twist on the "how good are Gotham's people really" theme - now testing whether their fascination with Batman has more to do with the fact that he fights crime or the fact that he's freaky and exotic. Fabulous, winking, quipping playboy Riddler, while robbing banks and so on, ends up being more popular than Batman!

(Could also take the opportunity to talk about the shit economy, people being fed up with fat cats = guy who robs banks is a kind of folk-heroic Robin Hood.)

Also kind of like the Die Hard 3 idea, just as a way of making the riddles less inexplicable...

The real challenge of course is the pressure to do another "serious" film after #2, but having not so many pressing issues left to cover that fit well under the Bat umbrella. TDK kind of covered most of the really interesting ground, it's gonna be hard not to just descend into the mythos and tell internally interesting but globally uncompelling stories with the characters.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

http://nooneknowswhatitslike.ytmnd.com/

Sure this further ruined the song for me and I'll never unhear it, but it's not like I was gonna listen to "Who's Next" again anyway, right?

Cunga, Saturday, 17 October 2009 04:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

what a disaster for the who

well pull down my pants and call me swamp thing (latebloomer), Saturday, 17 October 2009 04:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

and what a coup for internet memes.

Cunga, Saturday, 17 October 2009 06:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

Hardly any real detail here but:

While Nolan completes that Leonardo DiCaprio-starrer for a July 16th release, he's also hatched an idea for Warner Bros' third Batman installment. Now his brother and frequent collaborator Jonah Nolan, and David Goyer who co-wrote Batman Begins and penned the story for The Dark Knight, are off scripting it.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 16:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

Still hoping for Riddler or Anarky, would accept Solomon Grundy or Victor Zsasz (maybe Mad Hatter or Clayface)

PIES! PIES! PIES! PIES! PIES! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 16:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

pretty sure that nolan's batman deserves a day-lewis villain

quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 16:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

haha playing arkham asylum has made me totally ok w/riddler being the main dude. actually i'll even take harley quinn as an option.

if i have to watch gyllenhal in a catsuit act poorly i will be very angry

SMALL BONES, SMALL BODIES (jjjusten), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

he was planning on a DeLouise villain until last May (xpost)

some dude, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

if i have to watch gyllenhal in a catsuit act poorly i will be very angry

What if it was Jake?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

i'll be angry if i have to watch gyllenhaal act poorly in another one of these movies period. stay dead!

some dude, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

Zsasz would be awesome, but I can't imagine a studio going for it. That's next-level dark even for Nolan's franchise.

El Poopo Loco (Pancakes Hackman), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

just glanced at the wiki entry for the zsasz character. yikes! that is dark. i guess it would allow the two-villain theme to continue (zsasz and penguin).

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

Could live with Eckhart having some further involvement; don't get why TwoFace was meant to be any more dead than Batman was after they both fell off the same thing

MPx4A, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

twoface obviously in arkham at end of TDK?

quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

haha ok so if they use zsasz, would they have to keep him cast and played by the lead singer of James? because that would be pretty funny.

SMALL BONES, SMALL BODIES (jjjusten), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

god I hope so

PIES! PIES! PIES! PIES! PIES! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

He later breaks out of Arkham to kill the doctor where the other doctor frantically calls her to warn her but is interrupted by Zsasz knocking on the door and the doctor going to answer the door the fate of the doctor in unknown but most likely killed by Zsasz.

great wikipedia moment

wall•egina (s1ocki), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

LOL

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

sounds like a hyperventilating 13-year-old trying to describe his favourite video game

wall•egina (s1ocki), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

plz let that be repruposed into actual dialog in the movie

PIES! PIES! PIES! PIES! PIES! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

narration

wall•egina (s1ocki), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

in scary batman voice

wall•egina (s1ocki), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

someone explain to me why nolan has an english accent and his brother an american accent.

by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

pretension

PIES! PIES! PIES! PIES! PIES! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

not all twins are identical

wall•egina (s1ocki), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

also sorry but whole batman movie thing is so fucking boring. character is dead.

by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

Could live with Eckhart having some further involvement; don't get why TwoFace was meant to be any more dead than Batman was after they both fell off the same thing

― MPx4A, Tuesday, February 9, 2010 12:16 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

whether you think it made sense or not, the movie was pretty unambiguous about Dent being dead at the end

some dude, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

i did like the prestige though.

the dark knight had a fuckton of plot holes.

by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

also hate phrase "the dark knight"

by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

batman should be retired for a few decades like captain marvel or something

by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

u just hate it because u want it for yourself xp

wall•egina (s1ocki), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

and then the one guy was talking about batman to the other guy but then a third guy he was just like "batman is fucking boring. character is dead" and the first guy his head just exploded with the information it was terribly tragic he was dressed so nicely too

Lamp, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

I think they should kill off Batman and replace him with a robot Batman and an alien Batman and Batman Jr and the first black Batman.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

it's a shame those ray-bans didn't survive the impact

by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

xpost

by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

it's your fault

wall•egina (s1ocki), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

I think they should kill off Batman and replace him with a robot Batman and an alien Batman and Batman Jr and the first black Batman.

holy lol

PIES! PIES! PIES! PIES! PIES! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

all in the same film

by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

directed by todd haynes

by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

"crisis with infinite batmans"

Lamp, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

i'm not... (couldn't think of anything)

wall•egina (s1ocki), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

starring christian bale, the girl from precious, the fat kid from 2.5 men, and all the members of kraftwerk

by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

this is getting better and better tbh

wall•egina (s1ocki), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

and michael steele

xpost

by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

HOLY LOL

PIES! PIES! PIES! PIES! PIES! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

two and a half batmen

wall•egina (s1ocki), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

The villain will be called the Hot Prowler.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

Batmobile found crashed in a ravine near Wayne Manor etc.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

p excited 2 know what it wld b like when bruce wayne (played by tilda swinton) is a member of the parisian bourgeoisie married to a psychiatrist (anne consigny)

Lamp, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

his real enemy then will b existential ennui

Lamp, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

In another world, The Bathangover

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

BATMAN, a catherine breillat film

by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

this could go on, guys

by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

maybe talyor swift will purchase the franchise and she can rewrite it so that bruce wayne's parents never die in the 1st place teenage bruce attends a gotham magnet school plays lacrosse and gets early admission to brown~~

Lamp, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

talyor swift to play catwoman (a talented gymnast at gotham prep who is as agile as a cat)

Lamp, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 18:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

BATMAN, a catherine breillat film

― by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, February 9, 2010 12:56 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

wouldn't that be BAT GIRL

wall•egina (s1ocki), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 18:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

bá-ma soeur

Norman Mail (schlump), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 18:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

i did like the prestige though.

the dark knight had a fuckton of plot holes

...unlike The Prestige.

da croupier, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 18:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

cold.

wall•egina (s1ocki), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 18:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

is that DJ Spooky in Blues Bros 2K?

Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 18:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

i did like the prestige though.

the dark knight had a fuckton of plot holes

...unlike The Prestige.

What were the plot holes in The Prestige? I know both of the twists were kinda silly from a realistic point of view, but it's not a realistic movie, and its internal logic seemed to work fine.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 19:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah i don't recall any huge plot holes, despite the ludicrous conceits.

by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 19:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

some stuff was probably treated too elliptically.

by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 19:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

I've been reading the wiki entries on some of these potential villains & the impression I'm left with is that they really, really need to up the level of security at Arkham Asylum.

Screeching Weerasethakul (Pillbox), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 19:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2010/03/christopher-nolan-takes-flight-with-superman-we-have-a-fantastic-story-1.html

His villain choices to date have steered clear of strongly supernatural or super-science characters (no Man-Bat, Mr. Freeze or Poison Ivy, for instance) but he shook his head when asked if that was a trajectory he would continue. He did however concede one tidbit: “It won’t be," he said, "Mr. Freeze.”

Simon H., Wednesday, 10 March 2010 20:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

He's writing and producing a new Superman movie too? Oh dear, I hope he isn't gonna do an "edgy" and "psychological" version of Supes too, that would be like the wrongest thing ever! I'd rather see something like an adaptation of All-Star Superman, but I can't see Nolan writing anything like that.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 20:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

I think the strength of Nolan's Batman franchise is that he's created a bigger Gotham, and one that exists in a larger world in that Bruce Wayne can travel and Batman can go to Hong Kong. It makes sense that you'd see more than one criminal, gang, or villain, although the plots so far have done pretty well with keeping things balanced. I think the weakness of the Batman franchise, especially the earlier film series, was that there had to be some drawn out "Villian A meets Villian B" scene in the film, or that they had to tie together or have the origin story every time.

Maybe that's the win: no (complex) villain origins.

mh, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 22:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

Nolan Batman = take the subtext of the Batman comics since forever, which has been made thuddingly overt at least since Frank Miller '86, and make it more overt and turn Batman into some pseud brainy b.s. And there's also one really, really big car with a really big turn radius.

The Burton Batman movies used space better. They communicated an unseen Gotham through judicious art direction and storyboarding, and they showed (or at least implied) night and fog without being pictorially dark.

I felt insulted by Batman Begins.

bamcquern, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 23:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

I thought the Burton films were good at the time, but there's a lot of characters standing around mugging for the camera. Maybe it's because the age I saw them at, but they seem a lot more cartoony. The Joker bouncing around the art museum, the Penguin doing his "oh what do we have here" intro to Catwoman and providing audience laughs that deformed freak is perving on latex catsuit.

Maybe Nolan's is too WHY SO SERIOUS-business, but I don't mind it. As for the idea that there's "pseud brainy b.s.," that's kind of baked into the franchise. The world's greatest detective, right?

mh, Thursday, 11 March 2010 19:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'd rather see something like an adaptation of All-Star Superman

me too, but this isn't gonna happen

Utopian Paisley Shirt Production Co. (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 11 March 2010 23:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

Burton's first Batman movie is an ugly piece of shit

Utopian Paisley Shirt Production Co. (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 11 March 2010 23:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

YOU WANNA GET NUTS?! COME ON - LET'S GET NUTS!!!

da croupier, Thursday, 11 March 2010 23:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

please Joker, don't make me listen to that shitty prince song again!

Utopian Paisley Shirt Production Co. (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 11 March 2010 23:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

i agree that it's not a very good movie but it's not ugly by any means.

ILX's Dopiest Poster (latebloomer), Friday, 12 March 2010 00:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

Also, Burton movies def. had the best Batmobile

ILX's Dopiest Poster (latebloomer), Friday, 12 March 2010 00:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

no

Utopian Paisley Shirt Production Co. (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 12 March 2010 01:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

yes

ILX's Dopiest Poster (latebloomer), Friday, 12 March 2010 01:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

best screen batmobile anyway

ILX's Dopiest Poster (latebloomer), Friday, 12 March 2010 01:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

i honestly don't give a shit about the comics

ILX's Dopiest Poster (latebloomer), Friday, 12 March 2010 01:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

tbh I don't like the idea of Batman's shit being super-stylized. If he has batarangs shaped like bats, so be it. But the stylized bat logo, the super-stylized car with wings, meh.

Note that I did have the plastic model kit where you had to assemble/paint the Burton-era batmobile, I just think Burton's films (surprise surprise) ended up being about super-stylized decor and villains, and less about the characters and script behind those.

mh, Friday, 12 March 2010 02:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

batman returns is really pretty great

nitzer ebbebe (gbx), Friday, 12 March 2010 02:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

guys he is called batman, if his car isn't shaped like a giant bat then I just don't know what to say

but actually it is impossible to have a penis on the body of a mermaid (dyao), Friday, 12 March 2010 02:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

if I was batman you'd better believe that my dutch oven is going to be shaped like a bat

but actually it is impossible to have a penis on the body of a mermaid (dyao), Friday, 12 March 2010 02:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

honestly i wouldn't mind if they treated the next batman movie kind of like the 1st spider-man movie, that is, a kind of straightforward extension of the basic premise of the franchise/classic narrative, not some psuedointellectual psuedorelevant overpsychologized stuff.

by another name (amateurist), Friday, 12 March 2010 07:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

but with nolan onboard that's probably a vain hope.

actually i don't know why i'm posting here; i don't really give a shit.

by another name (amateurist), Friday, 12 March 2010 07:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

YOU WANNA GET NUTS?! COME ON - LET'S GET NUTS!!!

Bale couldn't pull this off in a million years.

Adam Bruneau, Friday, 12 March 2010 07:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

Also

THIS TOWN NEEDS AN ENEMA!!!

Adam Bruneau, Friday, 12 March 2010 07:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

michael keaton is a much better actor than xian bale

by another name (amateurist), Friday, 12 March 2010 09:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

^^^^ I might have argued against this before seeing "Terminator: Salvation".

we call him black Nev coz he's black & his names Neville (HI DERE), Friday, 12 March 2010 18:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

Bale's made a bunch of shit but let's be fair here so has Keaton. They do different things, not sure who I'd really say is "better" as an overall actor but Bale is definitely a better/more convincing Batman. Never once believed Keaton was capable of psychotically beating up criminals, nor could he successfully pull off the vacant yuppie thing that's essential to Bruce Wayne

Get the Flaps Out (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 12 March 2010 18:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

I thought you were supposed to believe in Bruce Wayne's "psychic wounds" or some such nonsense, and in this Keaton was excellent.

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 March 2010 18:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

btw Batmanis the only post=Beetlejuice Tim Burton film I can watch.

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 March 2010 18:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

I thought the Burton films were good at the time, but there's a lot of characters standing around mugging for the camera. Maybe it's because the age I saw them at, but they seem a lot more cartoony.

Hooray! So far only the first two X-Men movies have managed the serious tip.

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 March 2010 18:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

i think bale works just fine, cos the implication is that there is just not much to the guy.

goole, Friday, 12 March 2010 19:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

With Nolan directing there's not much to the comic either.

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 March 2010 19:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

I really do think the first Burton Batman is just unbelievably ugly - day-glo color schemes, shoulder pads, consistently poor use of shadows and steam to evoke some kind of urban/nighttime environment that never feels believable, cheap shit architecture that looks terribly fake... the whole thing looks like its shot on a series of poorly designed soundstages and it shows. not once is the environment believable or immersive, it all feels false. when people tell me they like this movie I just assume they haven't actually seen it in 20 years.

and this is in addition to the shitty acting, a script riddled with plotholes, etc.

Get the Flaps Out (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 12 March 2010 19:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

One thing I think Bale did much, much better than Keaton was portray a palpable sense of self-loathing within Bruce Wayne; I don't know how much of this was due to directorial tone and how much was due to Bale actually hating himself and that bleeding through into his performance (it seems like a very common thread through the characters he's portrayed).

we call him black Nev coz he's black & his names Neville (HI DERE), Friday, 12 March 2010 19:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

Keaton did a much better job of portraying Bruce as someone who could conceivably fit the mold of someone who was the head of a wildly successful technological research company, though; Bale's take seems like a little too much of a fuckup without the proven core of competence shown by RDJ in his (100% spot-on) portrayal of Tony Stark.

we call him black Nev coz he's black & his names Neville (HI DERE), Friday, 12 March 2010 19:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

Bale just looked vaguely petulant. Keaton genuinely looked as if it hurt him to pucker his mouth in that soul-weary manner.

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 March 2010 19:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

the burton movies are unwatchable imo

call all destroyer, Friday, 12 March 2010 19:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

I think the second one's great. the first one's an abortion.

Get the Flaps Out (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 12 March 2010 19:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

nah

The first one has some pacing problems but is a very good visualization of a live-action cartoon; the second is more of the same with much better antagonists.

we call him black Nev coz he's black & his names Neville (HI DERE), Friday, 12 March 2010 19:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

(and better pacing, oops)

we call him black Nev coz he's black & his names Neville (HI DERE), Friday, 12 March 2010 19:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

The Schumacher movies are interesting mostly because they only really succeed when the antagonists don't do flat-out Joker impersonations (which is why Carey's Riddler works better than Tommy Lee Jones's Two-Face and Uma Thurman's Poison Ivy was the best villain out of all of them).

we call him black Nev coz he's black & his names Neville (HI DERE), Friday, 12 March 2010 19:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

I think we can all agree that if they continue on with the Nolan version, they either better keep him as the director or do some serious quality control. The Burton-originated series got... well, we all know what happened there.

x-post, and apparently Dan is somehow defending any part of the Schumacher crap

mh, Friday, 12 March 2010 19:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

basically i think the nolan batmans are the best just b/c i dig the scope and style and the villains are all pretty dope. the burton ones maybe looked kinda cool at the time but now i have no use for them. the schumacher ones...batman forever i remember as competent some of the time but i think that's only because it's not a total mess like b&r.

('_') (omar little), Friday, 12 March 2010 19:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

Val Kilmer was fine as Wayne/Batman. He didn't fit the role nearly as well as Keaton but he did a good-enough job of continuing the tone and he was removed enough to make the Robin situation seem a lot less like gross creepy pedophilia. Tommy Lee Jones did Two-Face completely wrong and no one involved in the film had any idea of what the character was actually supposed to be, so he ended up being a budget Joker. The Riddler was also verging on budget Joker, but since the original character is also kind of a budget Joker, it wasn't as off-putting.

"Batman and Robin" was ill-conceived on almost every level. A smarmy, self-satisfied Batman is never a good one, Chris O'Donnell was way too old to play Robin as so much of a whiny bitch, Alicia Silverstone was completely disengaged from the movie and Arnold played Mr. Freeze less like a scientist and more like The Terminator. Uma Thurman seemed to be the only one who read the script, looked at the costumes and sets and went, "hookay, in order for this to work at all, I need to out-camp the 60s series" and, as a result, her part was the only one that seemed like it matched the movie they were trying to make. Still wasn't enough to save the movie, though.

we call him black Nev coz he's black & his names Neville (HI DERE), Friday, 12 March 2010 19:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

(sometime I should rewatch all of these movies to shore up my arguments, lol)

we call him black Nev coz he's black & his names Neville (HI DERE), Friday, 12 March 2010 19:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

Still wasn't enough to save the movie, though.

need to put this in the understatement hall of fame

call all destroyer, Friday, 12 March 2010 19:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

there was a weird period of time where chris o'donnell was actually a *star*, which i find kind of unbelievable.

('_') (omar little), Friday, 12 March 2010 19:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

mid 90s was a weird time

call all destroyer, Friday, 12 March 2010 19:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

ha, is it really understatement to say "the one performance that seemed like it actually belonged in the film couldn't make up for the horribly misconceived portrayals of every other major character"?

we call him black Nev coz he's black & his names Neville (HI DERE), Friday, 12 March 2010 19:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

I mean, the second best character in the movie is a tie between Alfred and BANE

we call him black Nev coz he's black & his names Neville (HI DERE), Friday, 12 March 2010 19:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

Love the screenshots throughout:

http://www.agonybooth.com/recaps/Batman___Robin_1997.aspx

Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 March 2010 19:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

lol no no it was just kinda funny after thinking about the litany of things that are wrong with b&r (many of which you listed) that one could casually drop that thurman's performance (which i agree with you on) was not enough to save the movie.

call all destroyer, Friday, 12 March 2010 19:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

Nicole Kidman's in there somewhere, no?

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 March 2010 19:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

haha it says a lot for the impact/caliber of Nicole Kidman's character/performance that I completely forgot she was in this movie

we call him black Nev coz he's black & his names Neville (HI DERE), Friday, 12 March 2010 19:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

i remember her because i was watching it with my dad and some older kids in the theatre kept yelling "fuck her! fuck her!" when she showed up in her nightgown and i was very embarrassed

sonderangerbot, Friday, 12 March 2010 19:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

oh my god, reading that recap is showing me that my mind was trying to protect me from how goddamned stupid this movie is

we call him black Nev coz he's black & his names Neville (HI DERE), Friday, 12 March 2010 19:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

wait, she was in batman forever

('_') (omar little), Friday, 12 March 2010 19:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

xpost -- Kidman is in Forever. And yes, that recap brings back the pain.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 March 2010 19:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

Don't worry, they do that too:

http://www.agonybooth.com/recaps/Batman_Forever_1995.aspx

Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 March 2010 19:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

okay phew I am not as crazy as I thought I was

we call him black Nev coz he's black & his names Neville (HI DERE), Friday, 12 March 2010 19:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

Which film was it that had the scene where Chris O'Donnell storms off in the Batmobile, is cruising for chicks, and then has to fight a bunch of thugs with a neon-light backdrop? That was some great material, there.

(My scorn for these films, so much scorn)

mh, Friday, 12 March 2010 19:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

That was Forever.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 March 2010 19:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

She rubs up against Batman and tells him to "send Junior home" because she's got some "wild oats to sow!" [?] If this is supposed to be a plant-related pun, they are really, really reaching now. Then she slides over to Robin, saying that "On the other hand, youth does have its advantages!" She calls Batman "geriatric" and tells Robin that "My garden needs tending!" Ew. No thanks.

She grabs the diamond from Commissioner Gordon and puts it around her neck, then announces to the entire crowd that "some lucky boy's about to hit the honey pot!" Okay, that's the second plant-themed allusion she's made to her genitalia in about half a minute. This is a witty script, no? She then basically offers her body to the highest bidder, and the men all start yelling out dollar amounts at a feverish pace. If you're wondering why Ivy is attempting to become the highest-paid prostitute ever, keep watching.

holy hell

we call him black Nev coz he's black & his names Neville (HI DERE), Friday, 12 March 2010 19:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K2Y2cGDRhI

('_') (omar little), Friday, 12 March 2010 19:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

All of the promo posters and stills have Jim Carrey mugging with weird body language and facial expressions, just so you know this is a 90s Jim Carrey film with his totally awesome physical comedy and jokes.

mh, Friday, 12 March 2010 19:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

I was a kid when I saw the Jim Carrey Riddler one and I really liked it for about a week or so. Batman & Robin is a movie so bad that it can't even be saved by the Rifftrax. Most of the movie they just sit in silence at how awful it is.

Adam Bruneau, Friday, 12 March 2010 21:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

i was worried i'd hate the burton batman when i rewatched it recently, but it was really fun. i might take over dark knight as a whole - fewer ponderous speeches even if TDK has fresher "fuck YEAH" moments

da croupier, Friday, 12 March 2010 21:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

Tom Hardy joins the cast.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 17:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hahah this prediction maybe not too far off somehow:

Third Rock From The Sun kid to take over the Joker role. Maggie as Catwoman.

― I can't make my face turn into a heart (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, July 25, 2009 11:26 PM (1 year ago)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 17:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

Time for a thread title update...

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 16:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

shitty title, but so was Batman Begins

da croupier, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 16:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

"The Dark Knight Rises" would make a good porn title.

SongOfSam, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 16:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

Sounds like some studio bod wanted to call it "The Dark Knight II" and this was the compromise.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 16:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

Pretty sure the villain is going to be Catwoman.

Davek (davek_00), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

Almost tempted to make a Worst Batman Movie Title poll, but as lame as this one is, nothing beats Batman Forever

da croupier, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

Batman vs Bronson <---much better idea

former moderator, please give generously (DG), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hardy could be a less well-known villain who they make as the official lead. Or how about the Penguin?

Davek (davek_00), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

Pretty sure the villain is going to be Catwoman.

^^^my money's on this, seeing as how Maggie Gyllenhaal is still alive and under contract for the third movie

men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

Maggie Gyllenhaal isn't playing Catwoman.

Princess TamTam, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

Pretty sure Christopher Nolan is the villain here.

sandra lee, gimme your alcohol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

xpost -- "Why Robin you've...changed."

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

Maggie Gyllenhaal isn't playing Catwoman.

and you say this, why...?

men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

Because she played a character who died in the last movie. It's a stupid idea that audiences would find confusing.

Princess TamTam, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

xp She might be an interesting Catwoman, but what is it in Rachel Dawes' psychology/character arc that would make her return as a villain?

It will be hard for the third film to top the crazed-nihilist-attacks-the-city angle so it makes sense that they might go for a more ambiguous villain, someone who aligns with Batman in a different way to the Joker.

Davek (davek_00), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

hardy as a nu-style Hugo Strange would give them a decent sci-fi angle

da croupier, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

And characters rising from the dead isn't in keeping with Nolan's ultra-realistic real-world non-fantastical realistic Gotham.

Hoping it's Bane, frankly.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

Because she played a character who died in the last movie. It's a stupid idea that audiences would find confusing.

I see you are unfamiliar with the cats/nine lives mythos. most importantly, you don't see her die on-screen. there are several oblique references to cats in the movie. how her character arc would be handled is a little more difficult to work out, but obviously the being betrayed by Bruce/let down by Batman thing would figure in

men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

but really the dead giveaway is that she's under contract for the third movie.

what, do you think she's going to appear in a bunch of flashbacks or something.

men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

I think haunting flashbacks make more sense for Nolan than magical resurrections.

I may be forgetting someone, but the options for new elements are basically Sexy Time With Catwoman, wacky mob types (Ventriloquist, Maxie Zeus, etc), sci-fi dudes (Freeze, Strange), vigilantes with an oppositional moral code (Azrael, Anarky) and monsters (Bane, Croc).

da croupier, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

At once.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

but really the dead giveaway is that she's under contract for the third movie.

what, do you think she's going to appear in a bunch of flashbacks or something.

― men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, October 27, 2010 1:42 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

so is Aaron Eckhart, it doesn't mean anything

Princess TamTam, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

i don't think nolan wants to return to the burton well too often and i don't think he's going to really mess around with "rises from the dead" kinda shit, like that article likewise suggests.

rothko's chapel and waffles (omar little), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

I guess there's also clue-leaving serial types like Riddler and Zsasz but with Nolan saying his inspiration was that this is the Last Batman Movie he'll probably go for bigger game than just Solvin' Puzzles With Bats.

da croupier, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

given that the moral quandaries involved with being Batman are central to Nolan's take on the character, having his longtime paramour become warped/turned against him would fit in nicely

and again I don't see any need for "magical" resurrections - you don't see her die on-screen, you see an explosion. people survive movie explosions ALL THE TIME

xp

men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah being under contract doesn't mean they have been paid and are gonna appear, it just suggests to me she's there just in case she's needed for something like flashbacks or nightmares or something.

rothko's chapel and waffles (omar little), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hoping it's Bane, frankly.

― James Mitchell, Wednesday, October 27, 2010 5:39 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

man itd be pretty sweet to have AZRAEL around -- that saga was so chill

69, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

with Nolan saying his inspiration was that this is the Last Batman Movie he'll probably go for bigger game than just Solvin' Puzzles With Bats.

^^^totally agree with this. this is going to be some conclusive-character-arc sorta stuff

men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

"Oh hey, Gordon, you know how Harvey went apeshit because his girlfriend died in that explosion? Turns out she survived, crawled out, and didn't tell anyone until his madcap time as Two-Face came to an end."

"Oh, the sad, plausible irony!"

da croupier, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

from the themes & plot points set up in the first two movies, really seems like the next villain will be a false good guy heroically persusing the dangerous menace 'bat man' for the good of the city, but really working for shady moneyed interests or his/her own whacked psychology. if batman was 'order' and joker 'chaos', i bet number 3 works on an inversion of this.

or a glory-hunter type who pulls crazy stuff in a reality-show way w/o batman's principles. super-celebrity for its own sake kind of a thing.

but i don't know comics so i dunno who these would be.

goole, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

MAN-BAT

lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

Turns out she survived, crawled out, and didn't tell anyone until his madcap time as Two-Face came to an end."

um, his madcap time as Two-Face lasted all of what, a day? two days?

men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

MAN-BAT

― lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Wednesday, October 27, 2010 5:49 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

^^omg this is the best idea

69, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

shakey, she's not going to be catwoman, please stfu.

C. Tuomas Howell (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

Why couldn't the title have been "The Dark Knight Returns"? It would've probably fit thematically (I assume that in the third movie Batman will reclaim the status he lost in the end of DK), and it would certainly have resonance among Batman fans. Plus it sounds better than "The Dark Knight Rises" - didn't that "rise" already happen in the first movie?

Tuomas, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

I was just about to say Man-Bat would rule. I'm sure Nolan doesn't have the guts to go with that angle though.

Princess TamTam, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

Because then people would be expecting an adaptation of the comic.

Princess TamTam, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

um, his madcap time as Two-Face lasted all of what, a day? two days?

you're right, the cops declared her dead without finding remains, she crawled off for two days and will come back dressed as a cat, having decided the town needs another animal-themed adventurer

da croupier, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

The Nolan bros were like "oh shit, how did it take us two years to come up with a plot when THAT was staring at us the whole time!"

da croupier, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

ha i thought two-face survived and i'm pretty sure i saw the movie twice.

goole, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

you guys are missing the obvious angle here:

Catwoman appears... and is played by AARON ECKHART

lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

anyway i hope shakey is wrong because maggie g is not so great at the acting and would make a super awful catwoman.

goole, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

most importantly, you don't see her die on-screen.

in 'the dark knight' you really don't see anyone die on-screen, they keep a lot of it off-camera. or maybe the chechen wasn't actually cut up and fed to his dogs! sal maroni just broke his other leg in the car wreck! detective wuertz was just grazed by dent's bullet!

rothko's chapel and waffles (omar little), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

i think maggie g is really good tbh and fine in that particular role, but she wouldn't be suited to play catwoman.

rothko's chapel and waffles (omar little), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

in 'the dark knight' you really don't see anyone die on-screen

um, the pencil trick?

lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah, that's the other thing, I don't think Maggie G has any ability to like... vamp or be threatening at all.

Princess TamTam, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

in 'the dark knight' you really don't see anyone die on-screen,

my big hope was that Eric Roberts survived and will come back with a Greek mythology fixation...as MAXIE ZEUS

da croupier, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

aside from likely being very hot, catwoman is a lousy idea for the next villain. sort of glad the riddler's not going to be the next villain, either. but who does that leave? penguin sounds equally lame, and unlike a nolan villain-type.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

the most Nolan-esque villain is Victor Zsasz

lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

my batman 3 would basically involve all the mob lords picking out their stylish trademark ("hmmm...I did always love Lewis Carroll") and getting really fucking annoying, forcing anarky to realize that all these weirdos are batman's fault.

da croupier, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

as a non-comix person, 'rahz al-guhl' (sp) was a new one on me, and it worked fine. and yeah, none of the a-list batman villains seem very nolan-y

goole, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

FWIW Marion Cotillard turned down a part in Batman 3, and it was thought it would've been either Catwoman or Talia al Ghul.

Princess TamTam, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

omg you guys, there was a CATMAN

lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

Tom Hardy as Black Mask or Zsasz would be pretty fucking dope.

if Maggie G is in this as Catwoman i will not see it.

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

I thought they really wasted an opportunity with Ra's al Ghul in BB... he's supposed to be a badass immortal arab mastermind, Liam Neeson with a glued on moustache didn't really fit the bill for me.

I hope they don't go with a lame new school villain like Bane or Zsasz (or Hush).

Princess TamTam, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

i had this weird audiotape batman thing when i was a kid that had an incredibly scary manbat story on it.

tylerw, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

haha what about Deadshot

lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

badass immortal arab mastermind

can't imagine why this didn't happen

goole, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadshot

Within the DC Universe, Deadshot is often a hired assassin, regularly boasting to "never miss." He is capable of using a large variety of weapons, but is most frequently portrayed as using a pair of silenced, wrist-mounted guns. He initially appears in Gotham City as a new crimefighter, but is revealed to be an enemy of Batman when he attempts to replace the Dark Knight. He is sent to jail when Batman and Commissioner Gordon publicly expose his plot to become the king of Gotham's underworld.[1]

After serving his term, Deadshot begins hiring his services out as an assassin, changing his costume from the top coat and tails he previously wore to a red jumpsuit and distinctive metal face plate with a targeting device on the right side.

lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

Isn't this movie legally required to feature Shia LaBeouf in some capacity?

da croupier, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

Either him or Justin Long

da croupier, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

I guess they could do Mad Hatter

lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

i had this weird audiotape batman thing when i was a kid that had an incredibly scary manbat story on it.

― tylerw, Wednesday, October 27, 2010 6:07 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

had this on LP </ILV>

69, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

danggg, wonder if it's available on the internet. seriously, it sort of scares me to even think about it.

tylerw, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

in 'the dark knight' you really don't see anyone die on-screen, they keep a lot of it off-camera. or maybe the chechen wasn't actually cut up and fed to his dogs! sal maroni just broke his other leg in the car wreck! detective wuertz was just grazed by dent's bullet!

did you even watch this movie? a BUNCH of people die on-screen. and not only that, we already had Gordon "return" from the dead

men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Quilt

what the hell, comics

lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

I could be totally wrong, but the Catwoman thing seems like an obvious route to go, to me - seems likely they'd pair her with some other minor villain

men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

we're all gonna feel so dumb when Batman 3 turns out as stupid as Shakey wants it to be

da croupier, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

Doctor No-Face
Detective Comics #319 (September 1963)

Bart Magan tried to use a device that would erase a facial scar, but ended up erasing his face.

lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

oops!

men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

we're all gonna feel so dumb when Batman 3 turns out as stupid as Shakey wants it to be

to be clear here, this is not what I WANT to have happen, just what seems likely

men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

you know what is REALLY unlikely? the third film in a trilogy being any good

men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

danggg, wonder if it's available on the internet. seriously, it sort of scares me to even think about it.

― tylerw, Wednesday, October 27, 2010 6:13 PM (11 seconds ago) Bookmark

buy-it-now!

69, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://batman.neoseeker.com/w/i/batman/7/77/Calculator.jpg

The role Hardy was born to play

da croupier, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

did you even watch this movie? a BUNCH of people die on-screen. and not only that, we already had Gordon "return" from the dead

― men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier)

but we didn't really "see" them die, did we now? there was no doctor pronouncing them dead in a hospital. pencil guy could return as a villain called "one-eye" for example. the judge, we never saw her body, she could return as "The Judge." just going with your dawes logic here.

rothko's chapel and waffles (omar little), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

speaking of dark night returns, tho, would it be crazy for nolan to adapt the mutants for the new movie? they were called the mutants right?

tylerw, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

and omgggg gorilla city!

tylerw, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://livingbetweenwednesdays.com/?p=1240

If the villains in the third movie aren't a league comprised of everyone mentioned on this page, I will be disappointed.

lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

Doctor No-Face
Detective Comics #319 (September 1963)

Bart Magan tried to use a device that would erase a facial scar, but ended up erasing his face.

see, i could see maggie g in a part like that

goole, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

just going with your dawes logic here.

no, you're not

men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

It is amazing how many batman villains are just variations on the same theme. "Once I have begun my reign of terror, no one will forget the name of MR. SECRET PASSWORD!!!!"

da croupier, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

smart money is on calendar man

everything you do is a meatloaf (another al3x), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

loling at dr no-face

everything you do is a meatloaf (another al3x), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

scarecrow was second-best villain, and criminally underused in first installment of rebooted series.

of this wiki list, the most promising choices look to be black mask, clayface, and deadshot. not many good choices imo.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

The bio for "Axel Alex"

Alex Farland is a mechanic who hates his job. He attempts to steal his boss' car because his boss never gives him a raise. Batman later defeats him and he is sent to prison.

da croupier, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

Batman goes to prison? That's gratitude for ya

sandra lee, gimme your alcohol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

shakey don't take this so seriously, you might be missing out on obvious clues that point to the return of michael jai white as "big smile"

rothko's chapel and waffles (omar little), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://luchins.com/dickery/Batman133kite_man.jpg

da croupier, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

I SWEAR TO GOD I WAS JUST XPOSTED ON PUTTING UP THE KITE MAN WIKIPEDIA LINK

lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol @ "KGBeast"

goole, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

Dot-face must have been taken

men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

Bart Magan tried to use a device that would erase a facial scar, but ended up erasing his face.

"Bart Magan" is an anagram for "Arg! Batman." Which should be the name of the movie.

Tub Girl Time Machine (Phil D.), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

Kevin Smith has written some of the worst comics I've ever read in my life.

Princess TamTam, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

xpost -- Argh! A Batman War

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

klaus nomi would make a vv good batman character w/a nice toe to head reveal shot

rothko's chapel and waffles (omar little), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

Numan would be a good runner-up.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

Azamat Bagatov as The Penguin

Davek (davek_00), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

that list of villains is kind of making my head spin

goole, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

Also think that the title 'Dark Knight Rises' promises more installments after this one, possibly without Nolan. The beginning of something, rather than a stated 'end' of the batman saga ie 'The Dark Knight Falls'.

Davek (davek_00), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

The Dark Knight Relaxes

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

the dark knight rises again

rothko's chapel and waffles (omar little), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

The Dark Knight Gets Drunk and Naked in a Hotel Room

men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

dark knight iv: the quest for peace

tylerw, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

the dark knight sleeps tight.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

Could be a good Kevin Smith cameo:

Mr. Camera
Batman #81 (February 1954)
A camera-headed villain that uses cameras in his crimes.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

The Dark Knight Renews His Driver's License

men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

guys:

Adolf Hitler
Green Lantern (vol. 1) #3 (Spring 1942)
A character based on the historical figure of the same name, Hitler appeared as an enemy of many members of the Justice League, including Batman.

goole, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

haha I was going to post that too

lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

Raiders of the Lost Dark

Davek (davek_00), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

i mean, nobody saw him die

goole, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

A character based on the historical figure of the same name, Hitler appeared as an enemy of many members of the Justice League, including Batman.

good to know.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

Maggie G comes back as Harley Quinn, having decided that the Joker's plan was the way to go.

mh, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

It Was A Dark And Stormy Knight

tylerw, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

a self-mutilating criminal named richey james, whom no one saw die when he vanished years ago

rothko's chapel and waffles (omar little), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

What about.....ELLEN PAGE as Catwoman??

Davek (davek_00), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

maybe they'll go like the Spider-Man musical and create a totally new stupid-ass villain

da croupier, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

Perfect excuse for the long-awaited Brandon Routh cameo

da croupier, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

superman is an asshole

rothko's chapel and waffles (omar little), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

god, this poor kid is watching his guardian get his ass kicked by a cheap knockoff and all supes can do is bitch about having to redo his plaque, as if it wouldn't take like a minute of heat vision to accomplish

da croupier, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

really excited about maggie g as catwoman [via shakey mo finke]

caek, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

also wtf kinda policy is "anyone who kicks my partner's ass gets to be my new partner"

da croupier, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

btw if Harley Quinn appears in the new movie in any way, I am not taking credit

mh, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

hope its gonna be a wes cravens final nightmare-style plot where all these studio execs dealing w/ the batman franchise are getting caught by a mysterious vigilante and everyone suspects christian bale is dressing up as batman but the twist is... its maggie gyllenhaal, who is alive

max, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

just saw this on twitter: "Now that The Riddler has been ruled out as the villain in Chris Nolan's third Batman film, can I suggest Ben Kingsley as Dr. Hugo Strange?"
GIVE ME A BREAK, DUDE.

tylerw, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

the very much alive maggie gyllenhaal will be playing the cat-woman

rothko's chapel and waffles (omar little), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

ugh. please, christopher nolan, just make up a new villain.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

^^^

Unfrozen Caveman Board-Lawyer (WmC), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

RiddlerCatMan

tylerw, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

bearsharkosaurus.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

i'd pay to see ron paul as the riddler.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

"the octopus", a villain capable of eerie foresight

rothko's chapel and waffles (omar little), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

The Black Glove, as a group of Gotham's finest who are tired of the entertainment their money and influence can provide and decide to break Batman. Rutger Hauer reprises his role from the previous two films as a member. Entire thing turns out to be a plot by Talia al Ghul, who has also infiltrated as a businesswoman.

mh, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol at editors roundtable. knew how to hook the kids back in the day

browns zero loss (brownie), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

batman v. the human centipede.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

batman vs. barack obama as the joker [via tea party posters]

max, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

The Adventures of Batman, Queen of the Desert

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

Guys, the sun rises in the east. This is all about Batman going to Asia.

Villain will be Lord Death Man.

mh, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

who the fuck cares who the villain is? just make sure you write a "batman dance" into the script.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06kXXJUddHQ

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

Daniel Craig as the Penguin, man.

Ballard, Dick (Eazy), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

daniel craig is an inspired choice for a villain, i must say.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

what happened to Philip Seymour Hoffman as Penguin?! i was loving that idea. also who's Tom Hardy and what's he been good in?

piscesx, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

he was in a movie called INCEPTION by a director named NOLAN. for all other references, consult imdb.

mh, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

Guys this is a GRITTY and REALISTIC and ADULT version of Batman. Clearly there will be no costumed supervillian.

Instead, that guy that found out about Batman in TDK will turn him in and Bruce Wayne will be taken to court for tax evasion, destruction of public property, etc. The whole thing will be a MORAL DILEMMA played out in an unfolding court case shot in GRITTY desaturated HD entirely in a REALISTIC court room. Right before the verdict is read the judge will say "Will The Dark Knight please rise?"

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

totally want to be batman's lawyer.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

well, maybe batgirl's lawyer.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

not robin's, tho.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

also who's Tom Hardy and what's he been good in?

― piscesx, Wednesday, October 27, 2010 7:51 PM (2 hours ago)

hes the main dude in "Bronson", which if youve seen it will give you a shot at how awesome he could be in a variety of bad guy roles.

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

not crazy quilt tho

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

wait maybe he will be catwoman

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

What about.....ELLEN PAGE as Catwoman??

― Davek (davek_00), Wednesday, October 27, 2010 2:48 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

smdh

JIMMY MOD THE SACK MASTER (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

wait it could all be an endaround distracting us from the moment the trailer unfurls and we are presented with a shuffling foot staring MICHEAL CERA AS THE RIDDLER

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

actually, i like the idea of michael cera, daniel craig and/or kid from third-rock-from-the-sun as the new villains.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

no crazy quilt no credibility

I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

I am rooting for Jason Bateman as Doctor No-Face

Justine Bateman would also be acceptable

lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

Megan Fox for unlikeable distant heroin chic catwoman

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

I still think Hugo Strange would be a good choice, not as the main villain but in a similar role to the LotDK arc "Prey". That would fit pretty well with the story so far.

Duane Barry, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 23:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

nsme is too corny.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 October 2010 23:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

name.

damn laptop keys.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 October 2010 23:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

"The Dark Knight Part II" would be better than this bullshit title.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 31 October 2010 00:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

might as well have called it Bitter Fanboy Tears

lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Sunday, 31 October 2010 00:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

Some further thoughts from Nolan:

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2010/10/27/nolan-dark-knight-rises-finds-the-future-in-imax-not-3d/

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 31 October 2010 00:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

Is "The Dark Knight Rises" really that much worse of a title than "Batman Begins"?

the waning trend (latebloomer), Sunday, 31 October 2010 00:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

yes

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 31 October 2010 08:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

This clumsy way of making the third film in the series use the same title as the second, more popular film is just asinine. People saw the fuck out of the last one because it looked awesome, and they'll see the fuck out of the new one if it looks awesome. "The Dark Knight" isn't going to be what draws them back.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 31 October 2010 08:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

perhaps the title is astrology-related?

http://www.superdickery.com/images/stories/stupor/5428.jpg

the waning trend (latebloomer), Sunday, 31 October 2010 12:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

might as well have called it Bitter Fanboy Tears

― lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Sunday, 31 October 2010 01:10 (11 hours ago)

had the spider-man reboot not already taken that title.

Cunga, Sunday, 31 October 2010 12:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

“It’s horses for courses,” Nolan said, using the British expression for taking things case-by-case

Number None, Sunday, 31 October 2010 17:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

Villains should be a trio of Oprah Winfrey, Egghead and Condiment King.

avant-sarsgaard (litel), Sunday, 31 October 2010 23:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

Professor Pyg please

I am using your worlds, Sunday, 31 October 2010 23:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

Dark Knight Redemption

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 1 November 2010 10:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

Dark Knight Revolutions

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 1 November 2010 10:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

Dark Knight: The Final Chapter

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 1 November 2010 10:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

Dark Knight Resumption

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 1 November 2010 10:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

Dark Knight Addendum

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 1 November 2010 10:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

Dark Knight 3: PS I hate you

I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 1 November 2010 10:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

Dark Knight and a Baby

I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 1 November 2010 10:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

Dark Knighterer

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 1 November 2010 10:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

Knight: The Darkening

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 1 November 2010 11:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

Dark Knight: Knight Moves

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 1 November 2010 11:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

Dark Knight Reloaded

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 1 November 2010 11:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

Darkest Knight

I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 1 November 2010 11:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

Dark Knightenings

I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 1 November 2010 11:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

In the Dark Dark Knight There Was a Dark Dark House

I'm being a smartass here, but in a fun way (NotEnough), Monday, 1 November 2010 11:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

Dark Knight and the Bear: Monkey Business

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 1 November 2010 11:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

Dark: A Knight's Tale

I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 1 November 2010 11:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hard Darkness: A Knightmare Revisited

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 1 November 2010 11:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

Knightness at the Edge of Dark

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 1 November 2010 11:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

Rising Knights: Darkening Days

I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 1 November 2010 11:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

In the Dark of the Knight

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 1 November 2010 11:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

(eww)

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 1 November 2010 11:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

Dark Knight: Feels So Right

I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 1 November 2010 11:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

Heart of Knight: Dark Star

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 1 November 2010 11:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

Knight Star: Dark Heart

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 1 November 2010 11:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

Starry Knight: Heart of Dark

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 1 November 2010 11:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

Dark Knight III: Monte Carlo

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 1 November 2010 11:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

Dark Knight of the Moon

the waning trend (latebloomer), Monday, 1 November 2010 11:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

Dark Knight Rider

Tuomas, Monday, 1 November 2010 11:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

Dark Knight II: Meet the Jokers

Tuomas, Monday, 1 November 2010 11:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

Darkwing Knight

Tuomas, Monday, 1 November 2010 11:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

All Dark and All of the Knight

Varèse Garagebande (kkvgz), Monday, 1 November 2010 11:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

What a Dark: Growing Up Knight

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 1 November 2010 11:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

Through a Knight Darkly

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 1 November 2010 11:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

One Knight in Bangkok: Thai Game

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 1 November 2010 12:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

Dark Knight Shift

mh, Monday, 1 November 2010 13:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

Alone in the Dark Knight

mh, Monday, 1 November 2010 13:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

Long Day's Journey Into Dark Knight

romoing my damn eyes (Nicole), Monday, 1 November 2010 13:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

Dark Knight of the Iguana

romoing my damn eyes (Nicole), Monday, 1 November 2010 13:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

A Dark Knight at the Roxbury

romoing my damn eyes (Nicole), Monday, 1 November 2010 13:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

All Things Pass Into the Dark Knight

dayo, Monday, 1 November 2010 13:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

The Dark Knight Raises: All In

dayo, Monday, 1 November 2010 13:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

Dark Knight Etcetera, Etcetera, Something-Or-Other Maybe Ominous or Epic Sounding, I Don't Know Whatever, Do I Look Like a Marketing Guy?

once a remy bean always a (remy bean), Monday, 1 November 2010 13:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

Do not go gently into that Dark Knight

I'm being a smartass here, but in a fun way (NotEnough), Monday, 1 November 2010 14:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

Is that the bareback porn version?

Tuomas, Monday, 1 November 2010 20:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

The Knightly Passion of Jean d'Arc

Øystein, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 15:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

(yay bookmarks, didn't realize I was two days late ;_; weept)

Øystein, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 15:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hard Dark's Knight

I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 15:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

Harley Quinn?
Poison Ivy?

the Whiney G. Weingarten Memorial 77 Clique (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 11 November 2010 23:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'd bet on one of them being Talia al Ghul

Princess TamTam, Friday, 12 November 2010 00:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

Talia al Ghul or Catwoman sound like the most probable choices to me. After Ledger, I don't think Nolan wants the next movie to have a female Joker. And Poison Ivy is too fantastical to fit Nolan's "realistic" (read: boring) idea of Batman's world. Talia al Ghul would tie the last movie to the first movie without Nolan sacrificing his "realistic" vision by actually resurrecting Ras. On the other hand, Catwoman is obviously much more iconic and well-known.

Are there any other notable female Batman villains?

Tuomas, Saturday, 13 November 2010 10:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

Baby Doll!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUtLTxBYZHw

KyleP (Princess TamTam), Saturday, 13 November 2010 11:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

also wtf kinda policy is "anyone who kicks my partner's ass gets to be my new partner"

― da croupier, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:53 (2 weeks ago)

Are you really that unfamiliar with the mating rituals of small towns?

Well, because whatever happened changed him. (Dr. Superman), Saturday, 13 November 2010 16:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

Bored to Dark Knight: a minor writer in Gotham's trendiest neighbourhood struggling with his second novel finds inspiration in the longboxes left behind when his girlfriend moves out. "It is an omen," he says, "I shall become a bat." With the help of his socially frustrated sidekick and a hedonistic police commissioner, as well as liberal doses of white wine and weed, Batman lists his services as an unlicensed vigilante on Craigslist.

Well, because whatever happened changed him. (Dr. Superman), Saturday, 13 November 2010 16:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

The Dark Nougat Rises: Batman in the Kitchen

dayo, Sunday, 14 November 2010 02:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

The Dark Knight Rinses: Starring Warren Beatty (40 yrs ago)
The Dark Knight Surprises
The Dark Knight Compromises: Frank Miller weeps
The Dark Knight Prizes
The Dark Knight Lezzes Up
The Dark Knight Raises
The Dark Knight Folds
The Dark Knight Appraises
The Dark Knight Erases
The Dark Knight Rizzles
The Dark Knight Rickles
The Dark Knight Celebrity Roast
The Dark Knights in Rodanthe
The Dark Knight of Madison County
The Dark Knight Clause
Some Dark Knight it Hot
A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Batcave
Barefoot Batman in the Park
Dark Knight Side of the Moon

make the Pagan Dad a Pagan Father. (Dr. Superman), Sunday, 14 November 2010 16:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

The Dark Knight and I: The Incredible Travels of a Pocket Mouse, a Superhero, and a Very Dark City

they call him (remy bean), Sunday, 14 November 2010 17:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

Night Dark Knight: The Erotic Confessions of a Jilted Sidekick

by Dick Grayson

(Includes "I Know Why Caged Robins Sing" and "Caged Heat: The Bat, The Cat, and The Bird")

they call him (remy bean), Sunday, 14 November 2010 17:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hey! You know that dumpy guy with the beard who was like a follower of Batman or something, going all vigilante in a homemade batsuit but with guns (booooooo) until he got hauled off by the police back in the first act of THE DARK KNIGHT, right? He looks like that guy behind the counter at your comic book shop who told you "You gotta read THE BOYS!"

WELL, BRUCE WAYNE SHOULD DIE AND THAT GUY SHOULD BE THE NEW DARK KNIGHT.

R Baez, Sunday, 14 November 2010 17:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

the dark knight starring will ferrell

cant believe you sb'd me for that (darraghmac), Sunday, 14 November 2010 17:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

xpost that dude done got kilt by the Joker.

Tub Girl Time Machine (Phil D.), Sunday, 14 November 2010 17:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

Well, hell.

ANYWAY: Those guys in the cutaways at the climax of BATMAN BEGINS who are like fiddling with stuff and looking at computers in a very "OMG THIS THING'S HAPPENING AND SO'S THIS THING AND EVERYTHING'S ABOUT TO EXPLODE OR SOMETHING AND WHAT'S TO BE DONE? EXPOSITION!" - y'know, it was all obviously a second-unit thing, damn near b-movie-ish, kinda like the PC POLICE scene in Hawks' version of SCARFACE?

THOSE GUYS SHOULD SHOW UP AGAIN FOR SOME REASON IN THE DARK KNIGHT RISES.

R Baez, Sunday, 14 November 2010 18:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

The Dark Knight of the Lepus

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 14 November 2010 18:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

"There's a herd of killer Batmen coming this way."

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 14 November 2010 18:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm kind of in love with The Dark Knight Clause, where Tim Allen plays a neglectful father who is magically turned into Batman and has to become filled with the spirit of vengeance in order to bring a smile to his son's face. With Chris Elliott as Robin.

make the Pagan Dad a Pagan Father. (Dr. Superman), Sunday, 14 November 2010 20:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

batman v. grinderman.

nick cave looks like a comic book villain.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 14 November 2010 20:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

Perhaps J-G Levitt will play the Riddler as Nick Cave just as Depp did the Keith Richards pirate fellow.

make the Pagan Dad a Pagan Father. (Dr. Superman), Sunday, 14 November 2010 20:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

good a reason as any
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ-KCpxLDtY

make the Pagan Dad a Pagan Father. (Dr. Superman), Sunday, 14 November 2010 20:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ yes this is where the batman franchise should go.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 14 November 2010 20:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

can't really get into superhero costumes with hair that tall imo.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 14 November 2010 20:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Anne Hathaway as Catwoman, Tom Hardy as Bane, sez Hollywood Reporter: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/blogs/heat-vision/anne-hathaway-cast-catwoman-dark-73418

you think you're cool, but you read ick (Phil D.), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 17:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

not surprised

ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 17:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

well I still think they shoulda gone with Maggie as Catwoman but whatever

ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 17:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

Surely Bane is a surprise? I guess Nolan could do something cool with the character though.

Number None, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 18:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

i can't wait to not see this

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 18:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

It will depend on the trailer for me.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 18:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

stoked

ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 18:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

Surely Bane is a surprise?

not really, he's one of the few non-supernatural/crazy powers-ish options (the others being the Penguin or Catwoman. after that you get into some pretty silly minor characters)

ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 18:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

Sounds cool! Can't wait to see this Cool Movie.

Princess TamTam, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 18:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

tho i just read bane's wikipedia entry (only being familiar with him from the back-breaking thing), and i guess it seems like he's a bit of a blank slate, at least for the film? he's basically just opposite-batman: hyper-intelligent, super-fit, but a bad guy. and not a lunatic. curious to see how nolan styles the character

ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 18:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

I see the backlash is already in full swing, but I'm excited to see this. I'm not sure how well Anne Hathaway will fit into Nolan's universe, I haven't seen much beyond Rachel Getting Married that leads me to believe she can do "dark" but we'll see. At the very least she'll be better than Mrs Tom Cruise (what is it with Nolan and horrible casting decisions for female characters? Juno was an AWFUL choice for Inception too), but I'm willing to give her a chance because I have a hueg crush on her and would like to see her in a Catwoman outfit. Bane could be really cool. I'm still excited. These are much better rumors than the ones involving Johnny Depp, for sure.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 18:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah bane's supposed to be a tactical genius, v. methodical and shit - i could see hardy and nolan knocking that out of the park. hathaway is hard to imagine as catwoman unless they downplay the character's vampiness, idk

Princess TamTam, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 18:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

NEVER FORGET
http://www.metrocity.com/personal/Vince/bane.jpg

Number None, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 18:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol, I never read Bane in the books and therefore had no idea he was actually supposed to be more than a hulking, grunting brute

Indolence Mission (DJP), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 18:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

i'm willing to bet the backlash was in full swing when heath ledger (lol can u imagine!) was cast as the joker. i'm gonna trust nolan's judgment, i figure catwoman will be presented less as a sleek dominatrix and more of a vengeful ms. 45 kinda thing.

omar little, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 18:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

I don't get why ppl aren't convinced Anne Hathaway could do vampy

Indolence Mission (DJP), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 18:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

I think it has to do with 94% of her movie roles being a giggly, bubbly girl.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 18:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah but her most recent one was that of an aggressively sexual Parkinson's sufferer, so...

Indolence Mission (DJP), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 18:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

Plus her HUGE SMILE doesn't mesh with Nolan's dark and dour universe. I think she can do it, but I can see why people might be cringing if they only know her from like Devil Wears Prada and the princess flicks.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 18:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

HAVOC

omar little, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 18:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

wonder if theyll do a knightfall rip

max, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 18:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah, i def had low (or at least middling) expectations for ledger. and i think this is the perfect role for hardy.

yeah but her most recent one was that of an aggressively sexual Parkinson's sufferer, so...

― Indolence Mission (DJP), Wednesday, January 19, 2011 1:35 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

lol like anyone saw that

Havok was pretty funny but she just plays an insouciant brat in that

Princess TamTam, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 18:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

but hey maybe i would've been saying the same about pfeifer pre-batman returns, if i was actually aware of who she was back then - i feel like i can trust nolan at this point

Princess TamTam, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 18:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah, was gonna say, Bane is most famous in the comics for actually putting Batman right out of the game

http://www.listzblog.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/batman-knightfall.jpg

you think you're cool, but you read ick (Phil D.), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 18:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

i always loved that cover cuz of the dinosaur just goin 'hey'

Princess TamTam, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 18:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

he's just popping in to check out some muscles

brownie, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 18:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol, I never read Bane in the books and therefore had no idea he was actually supposed to be more than a hulking, grunting brute

same here p much, but knowin what I do now it seems like hardy will be perfect.

ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 18:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

i don't quite understand how excellent and probably-soon-to-be-Oscar-winning actor Bale could have been so meh in Dark Knight. Hathaway is bloody amazing in Rachel Getting Married, much as i hated the film.

piscesx, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

I thought he was pretty far from meh but what do I know?

‎\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

The only thing meh about Bale in these is the increasingly awful bat-growl.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

he's stuck doing that dumb voice, which is nolan's fault

lol xp

goole, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah he's kinda good as bruce bateman

tylerw, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

^^^yup

ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 20:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

Being in the same movie as such a showy performance as Ledger's Joker didn't help him either. It's always gonna be more fun to play the villain.

Number None, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 20:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah i barely remember any bruce wayne scenes in the last one, but there were a few in "begins" that were funny/good.

tylerw, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 20:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

anne hathaway is in this one movie where these rich druggie girls go party with gang members in l.a.

dj plain ole m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 20:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

i have seen selected clips of that, on the internet

goole, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 20:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

he is great as Bruce Wayne. the bat voice is totally silly and yet... well, dressing up as a bat and beating up people is pretty silly.

ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 20:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

i have seen selected clipsscreencaps of that, on the internet

Let's be honest here.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 20:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

Anne Hathaway in a "My diet's going pretty well, huh?" catsuit:

http://i56.tinypic.com/33b2zv4.gif

Cunga, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 20:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

my only hope for the next Batman movie is that her Catwoman suit becomes as popular with 20something women on Halloween as Heath Ledger's Joker make-up was with teenage boys. I don't care about the rest of the franchise, or integrity of the comic or character.

Cunga, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 20:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

I suppose there is a lack of girls wearing revealing clothing on Halloween these days

Number None, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 21:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

i judge movies these days by the memes they will create and whether or not they will promote heterosexual male leering.

Cunga, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 21:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

FWIW "The Dark Knight Rises" is tracking incredibly well right now, on both fronts.

Cunga, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 21:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

not sure how well Anne Hathaway will fit into Nolan's universe

less a question of how well she fits into nolan's universe and more a question of how well she fits into the catsuit.

i figure catwoman will be presented less as a sleek dominatrix and more of a vengeful ms. 45 kinda thing.

don't know what "vengeful ms. 45 kinda thing" means, but they should veer toward the "sleek dominatrix" side to the character imo. no matter how they play it, catwoman is lame.

i can't wait to not see this

kind of feelin' this way tbh.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 19 January 2011 21:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

Oh you guys stop pretending like you won't see this one too.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 22:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

Modern comic depictions of Catwoman are pretty cool, imo.

sectarian chicken (mh), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 22:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

The Dark Knight Rises sounds too much like a porn title imo

i love tampon spaceship (San Te), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 22:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

that's some pretty tame porn

ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 22:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

I got Batman: Arkham Asylum for christmas and just beat it a few days ago.

It was an extraordinary game. That game made me more interested in finding out all the Batman villains than any other Batman merchandise combined (and no I have not read the comics).

I wasn't really familiar with Bane, Killer Croc, Clayface, Scarface or Mr. Zsasz but because Arkham Asylum was such a good game (could of been longer though) I freaking love all of them. And the next game is gonna have Dr. Hugo Stange for sure, so I know I'll like him too. I actually believe that any villian has potential at this point.

So another Dark Knight movie produced by Christopher Nolan with story by Christopher Nolan (not credited for writing though) will have to score at least a 70 on metacritic. (The Dark Knight got a 82)

Just being immersed in Gotham again, like in the video game, will be amazing for me.

homeless romantic (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 22:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

Clayface is such a great villain

ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 22:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

I really like the original casting for Catwoman on the cornball Batman series
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_YyQYa4b2MSU/TCtmI6s96HI/AAAAAAAAAJ4/9nD7n9EODW8/s1600/newmar_catwoman.jpg

Julie Newmar was 5'11" and I think all Catwomans should be tall now
Plus she has a really cute cat-face and what appeared to be all spandex clothing
http://geektyrant.com/storage/page-images/Julie%20Newmar1.jpeg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1288627810251

homeless romantic (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 22:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS-2SW8QGkQ

homeless romantic (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 22:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

and Pink Pussycat was so cute and lolsy (song at the 2:00 mark)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUxI95RQJSA

homeless romantic (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 22:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah, still no topping 60s Batman for sexy costumes. Batgirl was always smokin as well.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 22:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

Oh yeah, Catwoman from that series had a definite impact during the crucial years of my youth.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 22:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

I suspect I will feel obligated to see this, even though I didn't care for The Dark Knight, which I also felt obligated to see.

Tyler/Perry's "Dude (Looks Like a Lady)" (jaymc), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 22:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

would dane cook as the riddler move this obligation threshold one way or the other?

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 22:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

Batgirl was always smokin as well.
Batgirl was always smokin as well.
Batgirl was always smokin as well.
Batgirl was always smokin as well.
Batgirl was always smokin as well.
Batgirl was always smokin as well.

-- can't be repeated often enough.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 19 January 2011 22:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2201/3531607938_1079ff4367.jpg

The fact that the 60s Batman isn't issued on glorious DVD box set because it doesn't fit in with the dark, gritty Nolan versions is the biggest fail of all. It's a large part of my personal TDKR backlash-even tho i actually enjoyed the previous film.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 23:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

dude it's on TV all the time do you really need a GLORIOUS DVD BOX SET

ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 23:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

The reason the 60's Batman isn't on DVD is due to rights issues. The Nolan Batman movies have nothing to do with it not being available.

Young Guns aside, the western is not my favorite genre. (latebloomer), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 23:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm pretty sure the Dark Knight won't be the only thing that rises when Anne Hathaway walks out in a spandex costume.

[/ obvious joke outta the way]

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 23:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

still wanna see "What a Dark: Growing Up Knight"

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 23:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

ann coulter as catwoman: dealbreaker?

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 23:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

That would involve Ann Coulter being a woman, wouldn't it?

buildings with goats on the roof (James Morrison), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 23:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

that's unnecessary

conrad, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 23:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

so is Anne Coulter

Young Guns aside, the western is not my favorite genre. (latebloomer), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 23:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

By all means there could be another villain, but I'll be very surprised if there's no Gyllenhaal as Catwoman.

― girlish in the worst sense of that term (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, July 24, 2009 9:48 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

not surprised

― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, January 19, 2011 5:57 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

caek, Thursday, 20 January 2011 01:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

cut the guy some slack he's an ex heroin addict tricycle

HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 20 January 2011 01:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

god< I am love with hot catwomwan shit

homeless romantic (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 20 January 2011 05:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

gimmme some of that pink pussy yummmmm

homeless romantic (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 20 January 2011 05:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

can lorax get a do-over?

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Thursday, 20 January 2011 05:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

my only hope for the next Batman movie is that her Catwoman suit becomes as popular with 20something women on Halloween as Heath Ledger's Joker make-up was with teenage boys. I don't care about the rest of the franchise, or integrity of the comic or character.

― Cunga, Wednesday, January 19, 2011 3:49 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 20 January 2011 09:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

I like Serwer's point about Bane being played by a white guy:

http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/adam_serwer_archive?month=01&year=2011&base_name=bane

polyphonic, Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

I dunno insofar as Bane is kind of an anti-Batman figure - a traumatized child who grows up to be a genius with psychopathic tendencies, augmented by silly gadgets - the narrative appeal for Nolan seems pretty self-evident.

ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm with you on that point.

polyphonic, Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

Isn't Ra's al Ghul supposed to be from the Middle East or something? Don't think there was much of an outcry about that either

Number None, Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

ra's al ghul in the first batman movie was the most bland villain ever in an even mildly successful superhero movie.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

scarecrow 10millionX better than ra's al ghul. he should have had more screentime.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

i dunno i kinda thought neeson owned what little he was given and made it something more. murphy was the best in that one though.

omar little, Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

Murphy was great, much more interesting character - and one more integrated into the backdrop of Gotham. but I've never really been Ras Al Guhl as a villain, the whole immortality thing = eh whatever

ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

been INTO

ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

al ghul in begins felt like a set up for the character to be more of a straight-up villain in later films in the series, although of course that didn't happen.

some dude, Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

he's supposed to have a magic jacuzzi that makes you live forever. i'm surprised they went near that at all. for some reason magic is anathema to superhero movies.

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

figured it was like the star trek reboot, where the villain is way less important than the origin story itself.

ullr saves (gbx), Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

whatevs.; he was boring and bland.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

ra's al ghul's dad is sensei, which makes even less sense.

sectarian chicken (mh), Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

also, the significance of the villain certainly became evident in the second-film in the reboot batman series.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

liam neesowned

omar little, Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

I just thought the whole integration of Ras into the origin story was pointless. Like, okay, Batman learning martial arts in the Himalayas or whatever is fine, but bringing in an extra (supposedly immortal) villain...? why?

this is the main reason I think the second one is way better than the first tbh

ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

Let's pretend Al Ghul never even happened. Blandest villain ever comment OTM

Personally, I was hoping Leo DiCap would be cast as Cobb/Riddler, and we might get an "Inception" crossover movie and a lot of capital would be put towards the Inception/Batman X-Box game.

xpost

Cunga, Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

maggie gyllenpage

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

I think the main reason the second is better for the first is that the screenplay was by the Nolan bros with Goyer being involved in the initial story, whereas Goyer was in on the screenplay on the first one.

Not that Goyer is all that bad, I just think he's maybe a tier lower than the Nolans.

sectarian chicken (mh), Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

an entry-level batman fan

Cunga, Thursday, 20 January 2011 22:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

not up on the comic books, but ra's al ghul episodes of batman: the animated series were always awesome, i don't think the character is inherently lame

some dude, Thursday, 20 January 2011 22:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

he's not really compatible with live-action though. he's like garfield in that way.

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 20 January 2011 22:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

He's a great long-term, big picture adversary in that he's a villain that's sympathetic to Batman and there's some level of mutual respect.

Laughing at the Garfield comparison.

sectarian chicken (mh), Thursday, 20 January 2011 22:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah lol

ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 January 2011 22:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

would be down for a Bill Murray-as-Garfield vs. Baleman flick

ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 January 2011 22:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

actually bill murray would be a good -- albeit old, so not physically imposing -- villain.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 20 January 2011 22:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

he could crash twentysomethings' kareoke party with a violent band of dimwits (like chevy chase, playing himself)

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 20 January 2011 22:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

if Bill Murray plays a character and Chevy plays himself i think jaymc and nabisco are gonna have some issues with that

some dude, Thursday, 20 January 2011 22:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

how 'bout if chevy plays some anonymous, random tool? that's fairly close to him playing himself, anyway.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 20 January 2011 22:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/doleted/steve-martinKingTut.jpg

was king tut in the comics or purely a TV creation?

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 20 January 2011 22:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

Bill Murray's blithe insouciance would kinda make an awesome foil for I R SERIOUS CRIMEFIGHTER Bale

ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 January 2011 22:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

yep, except the gravitas-gap b/w murray and bale would be huge. that's not a bad thing in a villain, tho.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 20 January 2011 22:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

He's a great long-term, big picture adversary in that he's a villain that's sympathetic to Batman and there's some level of mutual respect.

― sectarian chicken (mh), Thursday, January 20, 2011 2:09 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark

this. it's not that he's a lame villain or ill-suited to live action, just that nolan used him badly.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Thursday, 20 January 2011 22:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

superman is also a great sympathetic mutual respect batman adversary but photoshop them into the same picture and it falls apart.

it's going to be interesting to see how the avengers movie handles the thor problem.

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 20 January 2011 22:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

it would be more interesting if hollywood declared an indefinite moritorium on superhero movies.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 20 January 2011 22:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

the one project my ILM buddy is working on is the Joss Whedon Avengers movie but I gotta say I'm deeply skeptical

ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 January 2011 23:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

er the one project my ILM buddy is working on that she is excited about

ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 January 2011 23:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

The article upthread makes me worried that this movie will be dominated, or at least focused on these hand-to-hand combat scenes...the bits where Batman was 'characteristically' kicking ass like at the beginning with the fakes or at the end with dogs were the least interesting parts of TDK for me.

Davek (davek_00), Thursday, 20 January 2011 23:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

the one project my ILM buddy is working on is the Joss Whedon Avengers movie but I gotta say I'm deeply skeptical

Took me too many seconds to realize that that stood for Industrial Light and Magic, and not I Love Music.

Cunga, Thursday, 20 January 2011 23:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

that happens a lot around here

ullr saves (gbx), Thursday, 20 January 2011 23:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

Industrial Light and Magic

spelling this out is a pain, sorry

ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 January 2011 23:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

IRL-ILM

goole, Thursday, 20 January 2011 23:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

IL&M

polyphonic, Thursday, 20 January 2011 23:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

Lucaslaves

ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 January 2011 23:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

IRL-ILM

lollll

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Friday, 21 January 2011 00:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

Kinda loved the way the catwomen and batgirl fans were all coming out of the woodwork upthread. Fetishes. Fetishes we didn't even know we had.

Cunga, Friday, 21 January 2011 00:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

Also reminds me of dating advice I once heard a guy give to women: "Don't date a man who has 'How to Draw Women in Comic Books' on his bookshelf."

Cunga, Friday, 21 January 2011 00:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

hahahaha

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Friday, 21 January 2011 01:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

the gravitas-gap b/w murray and bale would be huge

even moreso than Heath Ledger imitating Al Franken for 2-1/2 hours?

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Friday, 21 January 2011 01:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

hey guys it's Dr. Morbius!

i love tampon spaceship (San Te), Friday, 21 January 2011 01:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah, dr. m, much, much moreso.

Kinda loved the way the catwomen and batgirl fans were all coming out of the woodwork upthread. Fetishes. Fetishes we didn't even know we had.

oh i knew i had them.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 21 January 2011 01:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

haha i never heard the Franken line before, that's great

some dude, Friday, 21 January 2011 01:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

Ol' Doc Morbs makes some movie he dislikes worth a rematch due to his commentary yet again!

sectarian chicken (mh), Friday, 21 January 2011 03:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

There was this one episode where Catwoman ties up Batgirl with heat-sensitive strings, and the only way she can escape is by rolling around in water. Swear to God.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 21 January 2011 04:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

hahahaha

HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 21 January 2011 04:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

don't tease, telephoneface (adam bruneau).

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 21 January 2011 04:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

WHY DONT THEY HAVE THIS ON GLORIOUS DVD BOX SET

HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 21 January 2011 04:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

I know, I can only watch the Batman movie w/Adam West, and force others to watch it with me, so many times!

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Friday, 21 January 2011 04:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2971848540982254111#

Late merry Xmas, Daniel, Esq.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 21 January 2011 04:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

xpost -- so how's the shark repellent working out for you?

Ned Raggett, Friday, 21 January 2011 04:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

i like how she has to use her nose to turn on the sprinklers, when her hands were clearly available.

batgirl's hott.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 21 January 2011 04:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/4lbw3.jpg

ullr saves (gbx), Sunday, 23 January 2011 19:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

hm. not diggin' it, tbh. you?

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 23 January 2011 19:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

not really

earnest goes to camp, ironic goes to ilm (pixel farmer), Sunday, 23 January 2011 19:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

I feel like if you did that to the strung-out AH in Rachael Getting Married it would be more accurate

Elegant Bitch (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Sunday, 23 January 2011 19:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

is that really it? the costume seems so pedestrian, and the character looks non-threatening.

i mean, nolan's a talented moviemaker, so i have little doubt it will be an okay movie.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 23 January 2011 19:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

maybe she's supposed to be non-threatening? i guess i don't remember enough about catwoman.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 23 January 2011 19:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

srsly doubt that's the actual costume. guessing it's just a publicity photo that's like "btw anne hathaway is gonna be catwoman, hey stylist gin up something catty asap"

ullr saves (gbx), Sunday, 23 January 2011 19:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

mask looks pretty photoshopped cmon guys

xp ha!

Clay, Sunday, 23 January 2011 19:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

makes sense.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 23 January 2011 19:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

duped u_u

ullr saves (gbx), Sunday, 23 January 2011 19:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

dammit, doctor.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 23 January 2011 19:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

u_u

marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Sunday, 23 January 2011 19:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol @ "the actress was cast a week ago and the movie hasn't been shot yet but sure that's a real photo of her in character why not"

we're on dis innocuous ting that makes you irrationally angry (some dude), Sunday, 23 January 2011 19:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol

‎\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Sunday, 23 January 2011 19:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

oh i didn't realize the moviemaking process moved that slow in this fastpaced age; n/m.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 23 January 2011 19:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

PLEASE, MOVIEMAKERS, UNVEIL THE REAL CATWOMAN COSTUME ASAP FOR COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 23 January 2011 19:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

tbh, i don't even know who anne hathaway is (i know her by name).

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 23 January 2011 19:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

She's Wm Shakespeare's lady.

Fairport Dinkum Convention (Leee), Sunday, 23 January 2011 19:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

IIRC.

Fairport Dinkum Convention (Leee), Sunday, 23 January 2011 19:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

she's the one who beat amy adams in an online poll xp

Elegant Bitch (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Sunday, 23 January 2011 19:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

That Anne Hathaway pic is - um - very captivating. I welcome her sensuous good looks to this new Bat-epic. Cuz, honestly, both K. Holmes and M. Gallenhyllehally looked like their faces were melting.

A happenstance discovery of asynchronous lesbians (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 23 January 2011 20:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

early test footage:
http://i56.tinypic.com/jgp075.gif

Kerm, Sunday, 23 January 2011 20:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

kerm i love u

HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 23 January 2011 20:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

it can be made from black bin bags and sellotape for all i care, she'll look amazing no matter what.

not_goodwin, Sunday, 23 January 2011 20:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/e8If7.png

ullr saves (gbx), Sunday, 23 January 2011 20:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

now you're talking, phwoar!

not_goodwin, Sunday, 23 January 2011 20:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfe9fnfMfy1qahug3o1_400.jpg

Kerm, Monday, 24 January 2011 01:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

many better choices imo, e.g., courtney love. don't even script her dialogue just let her talk.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 24 January 2011 01:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

O_O xp

HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 24 January 2011 01:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

would also endorse sarah palin for catwoman. would bring valuable, real-life evil streak to role.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 24 January 2011 01:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

i'm intrigued

amphetamine enhanced scholar (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 24 January 2011 15:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

After watching Bronson (film based on the story of Britain's most violent prisoner) starring Tom Hardy, I'm pretty sure that if you combined footage of films he's already shot, you could create a pretty convincing backstory reel for Bane!

w/no hesitation (mh), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 15:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

Or even Wuthering Heights! Hardy is my favorite Heathcliff because he was a bugfuck insane thug instead of some lovelorn hero.

Peyton Flanders (Nicole), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 15:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

I think there's little doubt that Hardy is gonna rule in this film

Number None, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 03:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

imo he could make the comic character more interesting through his portrayal and what they do with him in the film

w/no hesitation (mh), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 04:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://www.cnn.com/2011/SHOWBIZ/Movies/02/14/marion.cotillard.batman.ppl/index.html

is it just me or are they just cramming talent into this picture

DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

either that or they're cramming Inception into it

da croupier, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

Ha, that would make sense if they were bringing back Scarecrow

DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

with dicaprio as King Tut

da croupier, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

Turns out Inception was just the prequel to this, and we see the top fall into Bale's hands.

"He murdered her in a dream."

*doom chord*

Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

cotillard is 35 o.0

Elegant Bitch (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 14 February 2011 17:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

why is that o.0

HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 14 February 2011 17:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

Christian Bale is 37, what's your point?

Old Batman is old.

w/no hesitation (mh), Monday, 14 February 2011 18:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

wait

I'm older than Christian Bale????

DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 18:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

Well, yeah. Don't you remember when Empire of the Sun came out? Always knew dude was younger than me at least.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 February 2011 19:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

old perry is old

w/no hesitation (mh), Monday, 14 February 2011 19:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

Maybe Cotillard will be Talia al Ghul?

Tuomas, Monday, 14 February 2011 19:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

That is what "online sources" are wondering, yeah. It'd make sense to me that if this is Nolan's last film and he's trying to create a trilogy of sorts that he'd want to circle back to some original themes. Bringing in Talia would make sense.

w/no hesitation (mh), Monday, 14 February 2011 19:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

did i read that Joseph Gordon-Levitt is in this new one?

always thought he'd be a good choice for a batman-villain.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 14 February 2011 19:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

a non-scary villain

call me king bubbles and sound like a sheik sheik (CaptainLorax), Monday, 14 February 2011 19:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

Twee-Man

Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 February 2011 19:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

i think you'd be surprised by the range JGL could bring to a villain role.

did you see mysterious skin? guy can act, and even be creepy/menacing.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 14 February 2011 19:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

of the main villains I can only picture him as Firefly

call me king bubbles and sound like a sheik sheik (CaptainLorax), Monday, 14 February 2011 19:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

Maybe it's a crossover and he plays Cobra Commander

w/no hesitation (mh), Monday, 14 February 2011 19:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

I think its been suggested JGL will just be a henchman of Bane, hope he's the falconer from B's Knightfall posse

da croupier, Monday, 14 February 2011 19:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

cap't lorax and neg raggett, you will be pleasently surprised by JGL's performance.

i predict this.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 14 February 2011 19:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

and i have only been wrong in the case of nat'l presidential elections and in my prediction that lady antebellum would win album-of-the-year.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 14 February 2011 19:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

Which villain will D-Caps play?

Peyton Flanders (Nicole), Monday, 14 February 2011 19:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

Ellen Page will be Robin obv.

Peyton Flanders (Nicole), Monday, 14 February 2011 19:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Banes-Gang.jpg
Bane's Henchmen: Zombie, Trogg and Bird

call me king bubbles and sound like a sheik sheik (CaptainLorax), Monday, 14 February 2011 19:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

jgl obv zombie

HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 14 February 2011 19:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

i see ellen degeneres as "bird."

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 14 February 2011 19:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

Actually I think JGL will be just fine in the film, he'd be good as some sort of conniver.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 February 2011 19:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

500 days of bat turds

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Monday, 14 February 2011 19:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

Alberto Falcone was the son of Gotham City crime lord, Carmine Falcone.
http://images.wikia.com/marvel_dc/images/a/a8/Alberto_Falcone_001.jpg
I just read that this is JGL

call me king bubbles and sound like a sheik sheik (CaptainLorax), Monday, 14 February 2011 19:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

Since Bane is in this, it would be awesome if it was based on "Knightfall" and Marion Cotillard played Jean-Paul Valley.

Tuomas, Monday, 14 February 2011 22:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

Ha ha :)

the most cuddlesome bug that ever was borned (James Morrison), Monday, 14 February 2011 23:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

I like how when I open this thread, my browser loads at just the right place where I always get to see Hathaway's decolletage.

Asparagus Peee (Leee), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 04:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

JGL = Holiday Killer

Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 March 2011 15:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

Wasn't the identity of the Holiday killer the main mystery The Long Halloween? And it the end it was hinted that the killer wasn't actually Falcone, but... Well, I won't spoil it. It's kinda weird that they're gonna use a villain who only appeared in that one story, especially since his identity will be spoiled by articles like the above. Unless Nolan has drastically changed the whole story? (I hope he has, TLH wasn't that good.)

Tuomas, Monday, 21 March 2011 15:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

i didn't like the long halloween, one of the reasons being the silly twist ending. (the other main reason being all of the godfather references.) but i suppose the falcone's are a good choice as they are among the most realistic of batvillains.

three megabytes of hot RAM (abanana), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 06:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

falcones

three megabytes of hot RAM (abanana), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 06:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

i read long halloween when i was 13 and even then i thought it was really hacky and cliched. Commando is the only jeph loeb product i've ever enjoyed

the jgl = falcone thing's already been debunked tho

ℳℴℯ ❤\(◕‿◕✿ (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 06:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

And the new Gotham is...Pittsburgh!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 22:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

Maybe Tom Hardy will be playing Bane as some deranged guy who just thought he was Mean Joe Greene.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 22:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

Boo. It was fun to watch them shooting stuff around Chicago last time.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 22:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

Dark Knight shooting in Pittsburgh, Avengers shooting here in Cleveland . . . it's all Rust Belt up in this here superhero stuff.

Anti-mist K-Lo (Phil D.), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 23:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

eat shit, chicago!!!

ℳℴℯ ❤\(◕‿◕✿ (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 23:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

Uh, wow. Somedays I'm astonished that you haven't been banned yet, what with your friendly, winning personality and all.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 23:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

It was a joke, Jonathan. Can we please leave our personal differences out of this The Dark Knight Rinses thread?

ℳℴℯ ❤\(◕‿◕✿ (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 23:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

tam tam is kind of a bitch

bantonio banderas (history mayne), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 23:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

I can't sb him all on my own, people

in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 23:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol HM I see what u did there

ENBB, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 23:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

Okay, yes, we've well established that I'm a worse poster than Tam Tam, thanks for reminding me.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 23:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

Jon, this thread isn't about you. It isn't about Shakey either. It's about Batman.

ℳℴℯ ❤\(◕‿◕✿ (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 23:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

has no one learned the lessons of l0u1s jagg3r

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 23:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

the more victimized you act, the more victimized you will be

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 23:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

also chicago sucks

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 23:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

has no one learned the lessons of l0u1s jagg3r

wish there was like an olde english pamphlet of this, preferably illustrated by John Tenniel

in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 23:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/qDF883rwO2Y/0.jpg

omar little, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 23:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

Regardless of what this thread is about, Chicago doesn't suck, fuiud.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 23:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

Isn't Chicago standing in for Metropolis in the new Superman flick?

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 23:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hadn't heard that.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 23:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

p sure my balls are standing in for chicago and no one will be able to tell the difference

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 23:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol its funny that you guys think i'm all offended about that, i just hate TamTam

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 23:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

p sure my balls are standing in for chicago and no one will be able to tell the difference

― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, April 5, 2011 11:55 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

they call your dick the 'willis tower'

timbo slice (D-40), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 23:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

btw fukk u chicago r00lz!!

timbo slice (D-40), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 23:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

jesus i thought nerd threads like this were a refuge

FUN FUN FUN FUN (gbx), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 00:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

Chicago is pretty cool if you need somewhere bigger than Minneapolis that's in the midwest.

sarcasdick (mh), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 01:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

Some more official hoohah reconfirming earlier stuff:

Warner Bros. Pictures announced today that Oscar® winner Marion Cotillard (“La Vie en Rose”) and Joseph Gordon-Levitt have joined the cast of “The Dark Knight Rises,” the epic conclusion to the Dark Knight legend.

Cotillard will appear as Miranda Tate, a Wayne Enterprises board member eager to help a still-grieving Bruce Wayne resume his father’s philanthropic endeavors for Gotham. Gordon-Levitt will play John Blake, a Gotham City beat cop assigned to special duty under the command of Commissioner Gordon.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 18:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

at the end of the movie it turns out she's Talia and he's Alberto Falcone, and the end of the movie is just Batman kicking the shit out of the Inception cast

da croupier, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 19:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

followed by a shot of a spinning batarang on a table

da croupier, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 19:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol

shamefully blowable (latebloomer), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 20:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

I bet it will turn out that Collitard's character will be Talia Al Ghul, though

shamefully blowable (latebloomer), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 20:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that seems painfully obvious

Number None, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 20:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hollywood should just buy Detroit, relocate its remaining residents, then use the city as the world's biggest standing set. Imagine the destruction!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

haha that's kind of an amazing idea

some dude, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

like, a disaster movie with zero CGI? that would be incredible.

some dude, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

Detroit won't last long; they'd probably have to buy Chicago & Baltimore too...

music loves drugs (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

Nah, just hire all the people you just kicked out to constantly rebuild shit. It's a jobs program!

Paul McCartney and Whigs (Phil D.), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 22:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

sign me up!

music loves drugs (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 23:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

According to this article some actor I'm not familiar with has been cast as young Ra's Al Ghul, to appear in flashbacks:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/social-network-actor-lands-role-176577

So it seems more than obvious Talia will be in this movie (and will be played by Cotillard), because why else would Ra's be in it? Of course the flashbacks could mean Ra's himself returns, but that seems unlikely, because 1) if Liam Neeson was in the cast, we probably would've heard about it already, and 2) Nolan's stupid "realistic" vision doesn't allow for a resurrection by a Lazarus Pit.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 07:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

that guy is huge

Bee OK, Saturday, 21 May 2011 04:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

If you see Hardy in 'Bronson', he's pretty impressively built in that, and he spends much of the film naked and often smeared in grease, so you see a LOT of him

You're fucking fired and you know jack shit about horses (James Morrison), Saturday, 21 May 2011 09:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

They need a huge guy if they want Bane to look anything like he does in the comics, where hes a hulk of a man pumped up on super-steroids.

Tuomas, Sunday, 22 May 2011 14:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

the Nolan series has generally been less about fidelity to the comics than meeting them halfway with a more realistic or plausible approach, though.

Waluigi Weingoomba (some dude), Sunday, 22 May 2011 14:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hardy's role in Bronson is like an awesome British version of Bane imo. Perfect training run.

mh, Sunday, 22 May 2011 16:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

i think some people were wondering if they were affiliated w/a forthcoming computer game, rather than the film, but it says that they're on a campaign site, so. i don't know. this film is still really far away.

stately, plump bunk moreland (schlump), Friday, 3 June 2011 23:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

An initial year-in-advance teaser bit floated out before the last one and filming's well underway so I can see something like this already being done. Who knows.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 3 June 2011 23:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

This page is mentioned in the third video

https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Fire-Rises/219657001385788

And some of the comments on there are deep into the 'fake or not' weeds.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 3 June 2011 23:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

so cool that it looks like they're putting the arkham breakout in the movie. That was my favorite idea in the bane storyline.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 3 June 2011 23:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

room for zsasz then?

mr. mxstache (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 4 June 2011 18:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

that's kind of awesome

g++ (gbx), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 04:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

i guess he didn't get all the buildings-coming-apart out of his system.

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 04:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

that's a pretty good poster though.

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 04:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

the teaser's gonna debut w/harry potter

Ayatollah Colm Meaney (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 04:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

will go see this

markers, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 04:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

...no way!

g++ (gbx), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 04:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

Will DEFINITELY see this. I was one of the few people who thought Batman Begins> The Dark Knight, But Nolan's Bats film are consistently interesting and unusual at least.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 06:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

I think Batman Begins probably has more going for it in terms of mythos and character development, but TDK has a lot more to it, overall. Probably the biggest weakness of TDK is that every character has more depth than Batman!

mh, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 15:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

that's not a weakness

a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 15:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

is Nolan still writing and directing?

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 15:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

I thought he was co-writing this with his brother, like the last ones...?

a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 15:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

honestly Inception is the only thing that gives me pause about this one. I've liked all his other movies but that was garbage.

a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 15:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

inception was just like all his other movies! he just has really boring dreams.

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 19:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

Ann Hathaway is the only thing that gives me pause about this one. I don't think she's a bad actress, but I have a really tough time believing she would be able to pull off Catwoman. In the Joel Schumacher version of Batman movies, maybe.

online pinata store (Nicole), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 19:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

as long as the costume is on point i am sure miss hathaway will be okay.

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 19:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

</calum>

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 19:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

WE USE BBCODE ON THIS BOARD

gucci mande (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 19:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

sorry, now the calum tag will never be closed on this thread

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 19:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

capital knockers, eh wot

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 19:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

They've been sort of coy about her Catwoman, no? Like, she's in it, but not much as Catwoman or something?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 19:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

Maybe she will be another dead girl for Batman to get emo over like in every other Christopher Nolan movie.

online pinata store (Nicole), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 19:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

an emo kung-fu billionaire beating the shit out of people to avenge his dead mother really is the ultimate nolan subject

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 19:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

I think the main diff between the first two, story-wise, is that David Goyer did the screenplay for the first but he was just involved in brainstorming the story for the second

mh, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 19:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

TDK is massively overambitious, raising moral questions it has no hope of resolving. It's a bit of a mess. BB is just a really well-made, atmospheric, exciting action flick.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 19:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

TDK is massively overambitious, raising moral questions it has no hope of resolving.

to be fair this is every "serious" batman story for the last 25 years.

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 19:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

^^^

a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 19:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

I thought BB was too cheesy/underdone in the final chase/battle where Lt. Gordon is supposedly driving Batman's vehicle and Batman is having an "oh no you didn't" conversation/fight on the train.

Most of it is pretty decent, though.

mh, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 19:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

Josh they have recently said there definitely will be a cat costume.

Duane Barry, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 19:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

its pretty much been confirmed that the catwoman costume's gonna be modeled on the recent redesign with the novelty oversized goggles and zipper pull

Ayatollah Colm Meaney (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 19:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

TDK is massively overambitious, raising moral questions it has no hope of resolving

LOL

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 19:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

I don't think the moral questions raised in TDK can be resolved without feeling pat, preachy or "edgy"

like, if I go to a Batman movie and there's an extended tortured self-monologue where Batman goes "I need to tap everyone so I can find a lead, but I can't listen to everyone's cell phone conversations, that is a gross invasion of privacy, oh heavens I am conflicted", I am going to think that you are more interested in a political agenda than a story

but, if a side character interrupts Bats and argues the point, you are introducing conflict into the story while raising an interesting political point that may not have an easy resolution (particularly in a fictitious world), plus I would feel any repercussions from that choice played out later down the line would be better earned

basically it's about presentation

HOOBASTANK is my co-pilot (DJP), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 19:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

I thought the end of TDK was kind of overblown, but Gary Oldman's monologue really did put tears in my eyes

mh, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 19:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

i think BB > TDK

goole, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 19:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

ok I'm blind this week, I didn't notice the sky above the buildings was the batman logo until I saw the larger version of the poster on the official website

I think TDK has some amazing set pieces that are filmed and presented better than anything in BB. Either that or it just has that opening bank job where all the accomplices get killed and I love it so much I overlook the rest.

mh, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 19:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

josh they have definitely used the word 'voluptuous' in describing the catwoman costume
xp

Genre Fiction › Men's Adventure (schlump), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 19:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

The opening scene is magnificent, yeah.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 19:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

I think TDK has some amazing set pieces that are filmed and presented better than anything in BB. Either that or it just has that opening bank job where all the accomplices get killed and I love it so much I overlook the rest.

― mh, Tuesday, July 12, 2011 3:49 PM (15 seconds ago) Bookmark

no i think this is true. i didnt realize how awesome the truck chase was until i saw the movie again, but its really a nice piece of work. cool movie imo

Ayatollah Colm Meaney (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 19:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

the truck chase is pretty great. and I tend to hate car chase scenes

a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 19:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

The fight scenes are a mess though.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 19:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

I pretty much hate this fucking movie.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 19:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

TDK is massively overambitious, raising moral questions it has no hope of resolving

LOL

― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, July 12, 2011 7:46 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

what an inscrutable post

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 19:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

maybe it just made him laugh out loud

goole, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 19:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol

so brycey (history mayne), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 20:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

The fight scenes are a mess though.

― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, July 12, 2011 3:54 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah, i think thats a limitation of the batsuit, its so clunky you have to shoot around it

Ayatollah Colm Meaney (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 20:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

It did! Whenever i hear about this movie and all the DEEP MORAL QUESTIONS it asks i think back to the time I've seen it and kinda have to laugh. Maybe someone needs to point out some of these to re-jog my memory. I mostly remember lots of explosions and growly voices and token 'War On Terror' references.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 20:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

trying to condescend to something intellectually by saying you didn't really pay attention is... one way of doing it

so brycey (history mayne), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 20:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

welcome to America

HOOBASTANK is my co-pilot (DJP), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 20:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

Whenever i hear about this movie and all the DEEP MORAL QUESTIONS

I don't think anyone here is saying there are DEEP MORAL QUESTIONS, just some complex issues that can't be resolved in a movie of this depth, and probably can't be resolved in the real world, either.

Whenever I hear people talking about a movie having DEEP MORAL QUESTIONS they're usually someone I've just met who seems nice enough but really isn't anyone I'm going to talk movies with.

mh, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 20:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

its pretty much been confirmed that the catwoman costume's gonna be modeled on the recent redesign with the novelty oversized goggles and zipper pull

― Ayatollah Colm Meaney (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, July 12, 2011 2:41 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark

O_O

what does this look like btw

g++ (gbx), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 20:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

Whenever I hear people talking about a movie having DEEP MORAL QUESTIONS they're usually someone I've just met who seems nice enough but really isn't anyone I'm going to talk movies with

for god's sake don't peak into the Tree of Life thread.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 20:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

oh ffs

g++ (gbx), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 20:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/VJFpu.jpg

Ayatollah Colm Meaney (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 20:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

tdk really needed to lose the tapping concerns, the boat subplot and dent/batman/ann other love triangle, BB only needed to lose all of neeson after the training scenes.

Still good 'event' movies tho, psyched for next one, maybe he'll learn to streamline one of these days

who shivs a git (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 20:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

the boat subplot

nah this was good

a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 20:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

it was ok until he sanitised the point at the end, fair enough.

who shivs a git (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 20:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

Boat subplot was good. But really, you could have stuck it in a Die Hard and it would fit just fine.

I guess I mainly have a problem w the surveillance thing, which is brought out to obviously touch a post-9/11 nerve, and Fox even says he will resign if it's used after the emergency. But at the end of the movie they get the bad guy, destroy the thing, and Batman and Fox's consciences are clear, like nothing ever happened. Nothing really changed, other than a few discussions of how dangerous such a tool is. No consequences of it are ever shown, just feels like a morality tease to me.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 20:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

Btw it really is an awesome movie and I love it and apologize if i seem to be trolling here. Just feel like some parts are 1-D 'Woah, deep!' signifiers and little else.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 20:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

The tapping thing was just really annoying as a visual device too

Number None, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 20:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

agree the whole tapping/cellphone thing was totally stupid and unnecessary

a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 20:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

You can acknowledge you're walking a line and make a point without obviously going over it to show the audience, imo. It'd be more egregious if they had a scene where Bruce Wayne was using the tech to spy on his ex-girlfriend and Harvey Dent imo.

mh, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 20:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

well the main problem was that it was two movies mushed into one, and even if you'd separated them they'd both have a lot of padding.

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 20:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

it seems strange that a movie that moves so fast could even feel like it HAS padding but welcome to the 21st-century i guess.

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 20:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

i like tdk for the set pieces and (some) of the acting and just a lot of the images. i think i'm probably more immune to the lolz that come from "batman stories that bite off more adult morality than they can chew" than most people because i HAVE been reading the comics for the last 25 years. i still nolan should ditch the costumes and the high concepts and just make a '70s crime thriller or its modern m. mann style equivalent next time out thought.

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 20:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

I don't know if i'd characterize TDK as about DEEP MORAL QUESTIONS, but it does (pretty obviously if i remember correctly) deal with moral paradox--that's kinda the Joker's whole M.O. in the movie.

ryan, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

tdk is pretty much spoiled by DEEP MORAL QUESTIONS tbh

who shivs a git (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

there is no DEEP MORAL QUESTION raised in a batman story that can't be answered by slapping a psychopath around.

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

in itself, a DMQ I feel

who shivs a git (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

The whole point of the Joker is that there's no moral question! He's implicitly amoral and is supposedly trying to get Batman to break his morals, but really I think that's a red herring and he's just a troll

mh, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

it's basically impossible to write a batman story not spoiled by DMQs unless you're a fascist or aiming it at 6-year-olds.

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

the whole point of the joker is that THEY'RE TWO SIDES OF THE SAME CRAZY-ASS COIN, DO YOU SEE? which has been the snooze-y subtext of every batman story since dkr/killing joke, if not before.

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

"the whole point of the joker in tdk" i should say.

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

who do we have to talk to in order to get Neil Adams' "Batman: Odyssey" incorporated into this movie

HOOBASTANK is my co-pilot (DJP), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

DAN OTM

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

j-j-j-j-jack your batman

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

(someone has to have made that joke already)

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

the whole point of the joker is that THEY'RE TWO SIDES OF THE SAME CRAZY-ASS COIN, DO YOU SEE? which has been the snooze-y subtext of every batman story since dkr/killing joke, if not before.

― death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, July 12, 2011 5:20 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest

Batman can be made into a fugitive w/o really affecting Bruce Wayne's life so much cos as far as most know they are two different people that have nothing to do with each other. And perhaps Batman's life will change very little as well. It's not like he's going to have trouble outrunning the police if they ever chase him, and it's not like he doesn't already spend Gotham nights lurking about in the shadows.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

question to comics fans: is that batman page supposed to be good or not

goole, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

it is supposed to be AMAZING

mh, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

not in the way neal adams meant it to be good, no

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

actually it's a series by a classic batman artist who is apparently batshit (lol) insane and has a plot that makes no sense, a bizarre hairy bruce wayne who breaks the fourth wall constantly, and no discernible plot

mh, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

it is supposed to jack your mind into a puddle of goo

a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

Batman can be made into a fugitive w/o really affecting Bruce Wayne's life so much cos as far as most know they are two different people that have nothing to do with each other. And perhaps Batman's life will change very little as well. It's not like he's going to have trouble outrunning the police if they ever chase him, and it's not like he doesn't already spend Gotham nights lurking about in the shadows.

What does this have to do with the text you quoted?

Casting Batman as being as crazy as The Joker has nothing to do with his status as a fugitive or whether the police are helping him or hunting him; it has to do with the question "what is acceptable behavior?" and many many writers get a lot of mileage out of wondering whether putting on skin-tight body armor and throwing boomerangs at jewel thieves is an activity that should be considered "acceptable".

HOOBASTANK is my co-pilot (DJP), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

to be fair to neal adams a.) he's 70 now so incipient dementia is not out of the question and b.) his '70s batman was actually hairier if that's possible

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

'numbed to vibrating oblivion'??

goole, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

batman took his shirt off A LOT in the '70s. but then it was a sexier decade.

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

probably Neal Adams most famous moment:
http://www.bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads//2011/06/gl76a.jpg

a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

there is essentially nothing funnier to me than hairy batman sexing talia while leaving the cowl on

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

tbf Neal Adams' other recent enterprise has been making videos and websites about how the earth is actually expanding and continental drift is false

mh, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

"was it good? did the costumes make it good?"

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

I've never understood why there's an apostrophe in Ra's Al Ghul... like, what difference in pronunciation is that supposed to signify? Rah-us?

a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

plain old Roz not as evil-sounding I guess

a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

he is the Al Ghul that belongs to Ra, the Egyptian sun god

it's kind of like TV's Frank

HOOBASTANK is my co-pilot (DJP), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

the height of risque for a nine-year-old.

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

Ra's al Ghul is supposed to be "the demon's head" in imaginary comic writer foreign language, or maybe a bastardization of a real language

mh, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

or what DJP said

mh, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

The actual Arabic pronunciation of his name would be [raʔs alʁul], with a rolling "r" and a glottal stop before the "s" in "Ra's" and with a voiced uvular fricative (a French or German "r") at the beginning of "Ghul".

ty Wikipedia

HOOBASTANK is my co-pilot (DJP), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

so when Batman is yelling "Ra's!" that's the equivalent of yelling "demon's!"

that makes sense

a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

there is essentially nothing funnier to me than hairy batman sexing talia while leaving the cowl on

― death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, July 12, 2011 5:42 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

this always cracked me up too, and i think it also says a lot about what made 70s batman so cool - people love to lavish praise on oneil & adams for making batman dark again, but they also made him a swashbuckling barechested bro who beds the daughter of his immortal arab arch-nemesis - that side of batman could really use a revival

Ayatollah Colm Meaney (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

holy hell these movies made a lot of money

TDK made OVER A BILLION DOLLARS

HOOBASTANK is my co-pilot (DJP), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xK4IixBTZA

seriously even in the cartoon batman could not keep his shirt on around ol' ra's.

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

tdk was mega huge, yeah - highest grossing superhero movie ever

batman begins was actually a pretty modest success - it kinda fell into that area where it made just enough (and did really well on home video) for warner bros to greenlight a sequel

Ayatollah Colm Meaney (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

haha i forgot that motherfucking david warner was ra's on BTAS

Ayatollah Colm Meaney (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

batsignal a sequel

who shivs a git (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

This was my favorite episode when I was little, because when they ripped Batman's shirt off it gave me a boner.

cloneswereall 6 months ago 64

Ayatollah Colm Meaney (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

bruce timm never drew a woman he couldn't intimate had hard nipples

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

this always cracked me up too, and i think it also says a lot about what made 70s batman so cool - people love to lavish praise on oneil & adams for making batman dark again, but they also made him a swashbuckling barechested bro who beds the daughter of his immortal arab arch-nemesis - that side of batman could really use a revival

this fucken post... exceptional

# (Lamp), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 23:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

To be fair, there was a bit of that revival a few years ago--the writer, Grant Morrison, said he wanted to bring back "the hairy-chested love god" version of Bruce Wayne.

not bulimic, just a cat (James Morrison), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 23:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

bruce biggalo, bat gigolo

who shivs a git (darraghmac), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 00:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

why are the writers/artists of batman more insane than batman?

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 02:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

nature

brownie, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 02:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

After their parents were killed a Batman comic blew in through an open window next to where they were sitting on a plush armchair smoking a pipe. This is true of Batman writers without exception.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 04:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

except for bob kane himself. he was just drunk.

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 05:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hahaha

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 06:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

So anyway, trailer:

http://www.slashfilm.com/the-dark-knight-rises-teaser-trailer/

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

not too much to go on there 'cept the Batmang lookin' rough at the end there.

THIS IS SATIRE BTW (Simon H.), Monday, 18 July 2011 16:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

So the main plot is that Batmang has to face Bane as Ra's al Ghul's new protege, right?

mh, Monday, 18 July 2011 17:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

Sounds like, not much to go on. The trailer looked like it was assembled from test footage...which is ok. The main point seemed to be that there's gonna be another batfilm. Not really excited about Bane, would prefer another go with the Joker with somebody else playing the role.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 18 July 2011 17:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

so glad they didn't go with the Riddler

i hate it when rats eat my bushels (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 18 July 2011 17:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hoping for Killer Croc tbh

mh, Monday, 18 July 2011 17:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

would prefer another go with the Joker with somebody else playing the role

Really?

Number None, Monday, 18 July 2011 17:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

Anyone this actually trumps the teaser for The Dark Knight in that it has some footage, even if it's only a tiny bit. I like the last shot of Bane coming at the Batman. Looks menacing

Number None, Monday, 18 July 2011 17:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah, there's no reason somebody else couldn't give it a shot. (xpost)

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 18 July 2011 17:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

I feel like i got my fill of The Joker in the last one. What more is there to say about him really?

Number None, Monday, 18 July 2011 17:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

he's implacable.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 18 July 2011 17:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

well THAT joker, yeah.

apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 18 July 2011 17:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

it's hard to imagine ledger's joker concocting hilarious "mouse trap" style death schemes.

apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 18 July 2011 17:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

can't believe they went with the commissioner-gordon-has-a-hernia storyline. all laid up trying to commission from his hospital bed.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Monday, 18 July 2011 17:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

Batman will bring him back with the resurrection stone.

online pinata store (Nicole), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

whose the figure in white behind Batman in the trailer...?

i hate it when rats eat my bushels (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 18 July 2011 23:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

god

max, Monday, 18 July 2011 23:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3125/wxxtuk6v.jpg

Number None, Monday, 18 July 2011 23:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

aw

markers, Monday, 18 July 2011 23:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

Will he out-growly-voice Bats?

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 02:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

Tell me those are the puppy-eyes of John Cusack.

bernerrrrr! berrrrrnowwww.... (Eazy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 04:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

Oh, wait, is that Liam Neeson?

bernerrrrr! berrrrrnowwww.... (Eazy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 04:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

that's Tom Hardy as Bane

Kerm, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 04:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

Did we talk about the fake trailer with Robin Williams itt yet? It was all over Facebook this weekend.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

new trailer just leaked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCub_5Ai5hQ&feature=player_embedded#at=30

latebloomer, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 20:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

Could happen.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 20:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

those are some excellent cloth physics

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i_qxQztHRI (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 20:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

no crazy quilt no credibility

LocalGarda, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 23:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

So this is apparently being filmed behind my flat. Pittsburgh is the new gotham. Look out for a hippy in his underpants in the tracking shots.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 29 July 2011 10:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

Don't remind me, my enjoyment of this film will already be reduced by approximately 3% since I will no longer be able to watch for familiar Chicago locations. Traitors.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 29 July 2011 14:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm being silly, but they really established a lot of serious shots of Gotham's skyline with very notable Chicago buildings so I'm wondering how they'll reconcile that in the new one. Lots of CGI?

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 29 July 2011 14:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

Obviously the action will take place in the other part of Gotham they didn't show, or they'll rely on the audience not knowing architecture worth a shit.

mh, Friday, 29 July 2011 14:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

Good points, both. I was just impressed with they way they wove the character of Chicago into the last movie.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 29 July 2011 14:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

Have you seen Source Code, jon? It's obviously less woven and not really fictionalized, but gave me more of a shock due to lack of recontextualizing.

mh, Friday, 29 July 2011 14:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

Not yet, I do want to see that though. I've worked on a couple projects down at IIT that were shown in the trailer, so I'm imagining there are some shots of the city.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 29 July 2011 14:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

The entire plot is the main character repeatedly having to relive eight minutes of time on one of the north Metra lines, although they obviously futz with the geography since things not up there are included. He gets off at a station multiple times, the Glenview one I think.

mh, Friday, 29 July 2011 14:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

Gotham looked like a totally different city in Batman Begins, so i don't really see how it matters. It's just like different comics interpretations of the same place

Number None, Friday, 29 July 2011 15:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

Clearly they could not use Chicago again because Michael Bay destroyed the city with giant robots and ruined it for everyone.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 July 2011 16:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/gallery/dark-knight-rises-pittsburgh-pa-217659

you wonder whether if there had been an amply lit shot of batman at some point before now the whole thing would seem/look ridiculous

(oboe interlude) (schlump), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 12:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

That's why he doesn't go out during the day if he can help it

Number None, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 12:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

interesting to see that nolan continues the costume arms race like the other four

g++ (gbx), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 14:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

bale lookin pretty sassy

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 15:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

The way they've done the Bane mask, maybe just the colors of it, reminds me weirdly of the Mutant gang from Dark Knight Returns - wonder if that's what they're going for.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 17:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

huh now that you mention it I sorta can't unsee it

g++ (gbx), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 17:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

every time this is on SNA i misread it as "The Dark Knight Also Rises"

ok carry on

i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 19:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

"Crew members surround Cotillard who wears an ethnic-looking costume"

Love those ethnic-looking costumes

not bulimic, just a cat (James Morrison), Thursday, 4 August 2011 01:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

Maybe they just mean she looks French?

I always figured that if I were a bad guy in Gotham, I would commit most of my crimes during the day, when Batman is sleeping or out and about as Bruce Wayne.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 August 2011 01:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

Sombrero, lederhosen, and a kimono - that's my best guess.

Sean Connery dressed up like a teddy bear (R Baez), Thursday, 4 August 2011 01:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

a dashiki and wooden clogs

jackie tretorn (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 4 August 2011 15:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

That's not much of a disguise

Number None, Friday, 5 August 2011 11:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

no it is, that's batman

(oboe interlude) (schlump), Friday, 5 August 2011 12:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

ha, good one!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 August 2011 13:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

Lipstick is too colorful, should also be gray.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 5 August 2011 14:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

No way, I like that lipstick on her. Also note the title of the picture is Selina Kyle, not Catwoman.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 5 August 2011 14:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

Was being cheeky.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 5 August 2011 14:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

brb guys...ur...can't tell you why

Neanderthal, Sunday, 7 August 2011 22:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

the dark knight rises

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 7 August 2011 23:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

loool

lacanthrope (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 7 August 2011 23:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

loool

― lacanthrope (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, August 7, 2011 11:14 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

x2

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Monday, 8 August 2011 01:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

So this must be filming in DTLA? The lot near my work is full of shiny GOTHAM SWAT TEAM vehicles

Pizzataco Five (admrl), Monday, 12 September 2011 22:13 (six years ago) Permalink

nah that's the procedural TV spinoff "Gordon" that's going to be a midseason replacement on CBS this winter

ibiza bloodfarty rock anthem (some dude), Monday, 12 September 2011 22:18 (six years ago) Permalink

god

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 12 September 2011 22:18 (six years ago) Permalink

admrl to play new villain 'The Poster.'

Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 September 2011 23:14 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah we talked about that in the TDK thread

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i_qxQztHRI (Princess TamTam), Monday, 12 September 2011 23:22 (six years ago) Permalink

oops, heading over now

Mordy, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 00:14 (six years ago) Permalink

meh-ow

da croupier, Monday, 26 September 2011 13:39 (six years ago) Permalink

seen the trailer a bunch of times and I still haven't totally parsed what's being whispered. Something about Batman being a really big deal.

da croupier, Monday, 26 September 2011 13:41 (six years ago) Permalink

Eventually only four movies will ever be made, just over and over, and my grandchildren's grandchildren will be wondering who's gonna play Catwoman in Batman DIII (not that this is a bad thing)

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 26 September 2011 13:42 (six years ago) Permalink

those heels look a tad impractical

Number None, Monday, 26 September 2011 13:43 (six years ago) Permalink

prefer this pic of those guys just whiling away a coffee break

http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2011/09/26/article-1317036163235-0E1653E300000578-463180_466x489.jpg

mr. vertical (schlump), Monday, 26 September 2011 13:44 (six years ago) Permalink

yer man there in full "you want me to trash the lights?" mode.

piscesx, Monday, 26 September 2011 13:55 (six years ago) Permalink

so disappointed they replaced gary oldman with hugh laurie's schlumpy tennis-bum brother

mr. vertical (schlump), Monday, 26 September 2011 13:57 (six years ago) Permalink

Was shooting all weekend downtown. Fucking nuisance

lol goat on table (admrl), Monday, 26 September 2011 18:08 (six years ago) Permalink

As I said only two posts above. Weeks of the Dark Knight Rises shooting + Michael Jackson doctor trial +Occupy LA protests = gridlock around most of downtown LA for days now. This movie BETTER be good

donut and the golden hen (admrl), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 02:50 (six years ago) Permalink

I assume the Catwoman mask in the pic is just some makeshift practice mask, and not the final design. Can't imagine they'd go for such a crappy look in the actual movie.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 06:51 (six years ago) Permalink

+ MJ better come back to life + capitalism better get brought down

honest weights, square dealings (schlump), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 09:14 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm hoping for a Catwoman mask like the current comic because GOGGLES

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:32 (six years ago) Permalink

Glad you didn't say CLEAVAGE! :) But yeah, the current Catwoman mask is clearly the best she has ever had. If only they'd get rid of that stupid fanservice zipper...

Tuomas, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 07:19 (six years ago) Permalink

If you have to rely on cleavage or ass shots to make Catwoman look like an interesting or attractive character, you are either a horrible writer or a bad artist

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 15:31 (six years ago) Permalink

the zipper is fanservice and not a reasonable way for the character to get out of an outfit?

thank you BIG HOOS, you brilliant god-man (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 15:35 (six years ago) Permalink

I think getting rid of the zipper would be even more fanservice-y

the tax avocado (DJP), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 15:37 (six years ago) Permalink

the zipper is fanservice and not a reasonable way for the character to get out of an outfit?

It could be, but the way it's used in the comics is that Catwoman always has it half-open, thus exposing her cleavage. This wasn't the case with previous, zipperless suits.

Tuomas, Thursday, 6 October 2011 07:55 (six years ago) Permalink

I mean, in theory Catwoman is an iconic superhero/villain who could be made into strong female character (like Wonder Woman) that female readers good identify with (thus attracting some new readers), but it probably won't happen as long as DC keeps depicting her like this:

http://comics-x-aminer.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/c1.png

Seriously, wtf is even happening in that cover?! Catwoman is sprinkling some Magical Masturbation Dust on herself?

Tuomas, Thursday, 6 October 2011 08:03 (six years ago) Permalink

"good" = "could"

Tuomas, Thursday, 6 October 2011 08:03 (six years ago) Permalink

god that cover art is terrible in like 40 ways

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 6 October 2011 08:30 (six years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

so ilx was down:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GokKUqLcvD8

Bee OK, Friday, 13 January 2012 06:20 (six years ago) Permalink

Been taken off of YouTube, but there's also a 6-minute prologue shown at some of the IMAX screenings of Mission Impossible. It features Mayor Carcetti (really).

do you not like slouching? (Eazy), Friday, 13 January 2012 06:33 (six years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Hans Zimmer on this and that.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:29 (six years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2012/04/27/dark-knight-rises-christopher-nolans-masked-ambitions/#/0

The plot and the production have been treated like state secrets, which speaks to Nolan’s now-notorious practice of message management as well as his yearning for old-fashioned movie mystique in an over-information age. The 41-year-old filmmaker is defiantly old school — not only did Warner Bros. fail in a push to close out the franchise with a 3-D release (as “Harry Potter” did) but here in the digital summer of 2012 the Batman movie is the only major popcorn project that was shot on film stock.

and

“Without getting into specifics, the key thing that makes the third film a great possibility for us is that we want to finish our story,” the filmmaker said of the script he co-wrote with his brother Jonathan Nolan. “And in viewing it as the finishing of a story rather than infinitely blowing up the balloon and expanding the story … unlike the comics, these things don’t go on forever in film and viewing it as a story with an end is useful.”

Bee OK, Saturday, 28 April 2012 06:21 (six years ago) Permalink

so he (SPOILER) dies?

piscesx, Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:32 (six years ago) Permalink

Gets his back broke and it STAYS broken.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:46 (six years ago) Permalink

I would think it'd be impossible for DC/Warner Bros. to really let Chris Nolan follow their biggest hit with a movie where no one is audible and the hero dies, but then again, last year they made Green Lantern.

da croupier, Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:50 (six years ago) Permalink

they've changed Bane's voice now anyway

Number None, Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:51 (six years ago) Permalink

does batman still sound like a muppet?

da croupier, Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:56 (six years ago) Permalink

who's idea of fun is watching a film with a baddy who has his face and mouth is obscured for 2 hours?! i loved the first 2 films but .. man.
i mean i know that's how he looks in the comic and everything but still.

piscesx, Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:59 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah man nobody goes to a batman movie to see a major character wear a face-obscuring mask

some dude, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:03 (six years ago) Permalink

Lol Darth Vader to thread

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:22 (six years ago) Permalink

I've always kind of assumed Batmang dies in this one ever since Nolan started emphasizing the movie's finality.

Simon H., Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:53 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah man nobody goes to a batman movie to see a major character wear a face-obscuring mask

― some dude, Sunday, April 29, 2012 3:03 PM Bookmark

lol

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:58 (six years ago) Permalink

Has there ever been a successful franchise where the hero dies? Capt Kirk doesn't count

da croupier, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:03 (six years ago) Permalink

Killing Batman just seems like a good way to cut down on repeat attendance

da croupier, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:03 (six years ago) Permalink

could the millions of fans who flocked to see heath ledger's final performance really be turned off by the morbid buzzkill of the death of a fictional character, though?

some dude, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:06 (six years ago) Permalink

i mean outside of stuff with a predetermined longer arc like Harry Potter pretty much no series carries any serious momentum into a fourth movie or beyond, i don't see any problem with closing the door on Nolan Bats instead of leaving off with a "he lives to see another battle...but for how long?" ending.

some dude, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:08 (six years ago) Permalink

i mean outside of stuff with a predetermined longer arc like Harry Potter pretty much no series carries any serious momentum into a fourth movie or beyond

ROCKY & RAMBO

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:13 (six years ago) Permalink

how is the 4th movie following 20 years after the 3rd and making less money an example of carrying "serious momemtum"

some dude, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:18 (six years ago) Permalink

i'll grant Rocky, though, the first 5 movies came out at pretty regular intervals and all made big money

some dude, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:19 (six years ago) Permalink

Aren't they already talking about a reboot anyway? Something like how this sees off the Nolan take and then they can go a different direction next time. In fact, yeah, just dug this up:

http://collider.com/batman-reboot-warner-bros-christopher-nolan-producer/83025/

A year old and the initial date of 2013 has now been shot down but at the time:

Christopher Nolan has publicly stated that The Dark Knight Rises will be his final Batman film, and Warner Bros. is already looking ahead to the future of the franchise. As we reported last night, the studio is currently planning a Justice League movie for 2013 and Warner Bros. president Jeff Robinov tells Hero Complex that scripts are being written for Flash and Wonder Woman (the Wonder Woman project would exist separately from the upcoming NBC show). But most intriguing is what the studio plans to do with its marquee superhero, Batman:

“We have the third Batman, but then we’ll have to reinvent Batman…” says Robinov. “Chris Nolan and [producing partner and wife] Emma Thomas will be producing it, so it will be a conversation with them about what the next phase is.”

Two to one says something like this plays out. Nolan could kill off Bale-as-Batman easily and then any number of other possibilities goes forward -- there have already been rumors about Joseph Gordon Levitt's character in this new one assuming the mantle or whatever -- or even more likely they could take the Spider-Man approach and go 'fuck it' and just restart.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:25 (six years ago) Permalink

i just can imagine an exec saying "i think it was mistake to try and make a blockbuster where they killed batman" more than I can imagine ordinary people saying "my favorite batman movie is the one where batman dies". The JGL thing seems more likely, but that also reminds me of when they realized killing Hooch at the end of turner & hooch was a bummer even if they showed a puppy at the end.

da croupier, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:28 (six years ago) Permalink

maybe they just crack Christian's back and but still have him around to give JGL the go-ahead

da croupier, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:29 (six years ago) Permalink

that really was a bummer xpost

Number None, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:29 (six years ago) Permalink

armie hammer was gonna play batman in george miller's justice league movie a couple years ago, but they never started filming. they got pretty far into pre production though

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:32 (six years ago) Permalink

could the millions of fans who flocked to see heath ledger's final performance really be turned off by the morbid buzzkill of the death of a fictional character, though?

millions of people flocked to see the kick-ass batman movie that also had a great performance by an actor who tragically died after it was finished. i'm pretty sure you can see the distinction to be made between that and a superhero movie where the hero fails.

da croupier, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:32 (six years ago) Permalink

though if he does die, that does mean kiddie book spin-offs will be even more impressive

http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/26662097.html

da croupier, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:34 (six years ago) Permalink

Hahahah I still love that.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:35 (six years ago) Permalink

millions of people flocked to see the kick-ass batman movie that also had a great performance by an actor who tragically died after it was finished. i'm pretty sure you can see the distinction to be made between that and a superhero movie where the hero fails.

― da croupier, Sunday, April 29, 2012 4:32 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Fl

just like i'm sure you can see the difference between turner & hooch and the darkest big screen adaptation of the darkest of the big comic book heroes

some dude, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:37 (six years ago) Permalink

in the sense that both need to play in the sticks, not really

da croupier, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:38 (six years ago) Permalink

don't get me wrong, this is the company that brought back Superman as a negligent babydaddy. It's possible they're doing something this dumb cuz a respected director said it was a good idea.

da croupier, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:39 (six years ago) Permalink

i dunno is batman dying inherently "dumb"? i guess i just don't see the problem. but let's just skip ahead to the part where we make a bet about whether bruce wayne kicks it and one of us paypals the other $20 on opening weekend.

some dude, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:41 (six years ago) Permalink

oh i refuse to believe batman dying could be kept a secret till opening weekend

da croupier, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:43 (six years ago) Permalink

i mean, it's amazing we haven't seen a leak yet, but still

da croupier, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:44 (six years ago) Permalink

batman dying isnt the same as batman 'failing' it all depends on how its played - if the movie ended with him being murdered with a metal pipe and then the bad guy is like 'haha, owned', fade to black, audiences would be pissed - but the 'noble sacrifice in name of a greater good' often plays pretty well with mainstream audiences

of course i dont think theres a chance in hell that batbro bites it in this

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:45 (six years ago) Permalink

Give it back to Tim Burton

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:46 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah but it sounds better to say 'opening weekend' than 'when harry knowles is totally sure what he's holding in his hands is the actual screenplay' or w/e. it almost seems like kind of a no-brainer to me that the franchise that made a billion dollars off being the gritty realistic/pessimistic answer to other comic book movies could conclude by killing off the hero. not that i'm 100% confident they WILL do that, but it seems like a pretty obvious place to go.

some dude, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:47 (six years ago) Permalink

the only thing burton should be given is a boxing about the ears

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:47 (six years ago) Permalink

it almost seems like kind of a no-brainer to me that the franchise that made a billion dollars off being the gritty realistic/pessimistic answer to other comic book movies could conclude by killing off the hero.

no, there is a logic to it. it's just pretty bold move for a franchise that also makes its billion off toys, and a move that would easily seem idiotic in hindsight.

da croupier, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:52 (six years ago) Permalink

it's less bold when you consider that, nolan & bale declaring in advance that they're done with the franchise, it was going to be rebooted either way...

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:01 (six years ago) Permalink

my money is that marvel's gonna send them all bouquets

da croupier, Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:02 (six years ago) Permalink

will they stop making batman toys if batman dies? or only make 'dead batman' toys?

some dude, Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:02 (six years ago) Permalink

It's in the title, dudes. Batman dies and then all of Gotham watches his ghost rise into heaven.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:04 (six years ago) Permalink

what if BATMAN dies..

......but BRUCE WAYNE lives

max, Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:07 (six years ago) Permalink

food for thought

max, Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:07 (six years ago) Permalink

Two Face turns out to still be alive, movie ends with him deciding whether or not to spare Batman's voice by flipping a coin. the coin lands on a tabletop and just keeps spinning, cut to credits. SCHRODINGER'S BAT!

some dude, Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:08 (six years ago) Permalink

er Batman's life

some dude, Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:09 (six years ago) Permalink

maybe they kill him off but there's a "Batman will be rebooted in...THAT DARN BAT" before the credits

da croupier, Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:15 (six years ago) Permalink

3rd Bat From The Sun

some dude, Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:16 (six years ago) Permalink

I also like the "Bruce Wayne listens to recording of his Batman voice, gets seriously embarrassed, retires" possibility

da croupier, Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:16 (six years ago) Permalink

tails it is... tonight harvey dent fucks men!

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:18 (six years ago) Permalink

i can definitely see batman breaking his back and mentoring JGL in a reboot

i just really wish the new spiderman would flop bc 'reboot' is becoming the new 'sequel'

JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:23 (six years ago) Permalink

the worst possible reboot i can imagine is Christian Bale cameos as a Professor X figure

some dude, Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:27 (six years ago) Permalink

otm

improvised explosive advice (WmC), Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:30 (six years ago) Permalink

any time ive seen the new spidey trailer in a theater, the audience reaction is incredibly apathetic/bored. they kinda screwed up on that one

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:33 (six years ago) Permalink

i like how the poster says THE UNTOLD STORY, totally cornering the market of people who always wanted to know spidey's backstory but don't remember it from the first moive.

da croupier, Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:34 (six years ago) Permalink

weell they are doing all that lame crap with his parents

Number None, Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:36 (six years ago) Permalink

Has there ever been a successful franchise where the hero dies?

Alien. Clones don't count.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:53 (six years ago) Permalink

Alien 3 was a total commercial disappointment, though

da croupier, Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:55 (six years ago) Permalink

maybe they kill him off but there's a "Batman will be rebooted in...THAT DARN BAT" before the credits

― da croupier, Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:15 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

3rd Bat From The Sun

― some dude, Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:16 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"Big Bat Theory"

PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:40 (six years ago) Permalink

If i hear that this movie will kill him off, seriously I won't see it and I'll blank it completely off my radar. That should never happen.

Unless the film is set further in time, just before Batman decides to retire and move down to Florida.

PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:42 (six years ago) Permalink

they kill off comic book characters all the time you know (though tbf it took them a long time to do it with Batman)

Number None, Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:43 (six years ago) Permalink

Batman dying feels like the beginning of a story though, especially if they set up JGL as the successor. That's not "finishing" the story like they say they want.

But on the other hand, batman breaking his back being temporarily replaced and then coming back is a lot of narrative for one popcorn movie.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:06 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah isn't that the whole plot behind the Bane stories in the comics? I just remember that front cover where it was literally him breaking Batman's back over his knees.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:06 (six years ago) Permalink

Looks like that should be some sort of gabber single cover from 1994 Amsterdam.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:09 (six years ago) Permalink

If i hear that this movie will kill him off, seriously I won't see it and I'll blank it completely off my radar. That should never happen.

Unless the film is set further in time, just before Batman decides to retire and move down to Florida.

― PSOD (Ste), Sunday, April 29, 2012 6:42 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

well, Rises does apparently take place 8 years after the story of the last movie.

some dude, Monday, 30 April 2012 02:44 (six years ago) Permalink

3rd Bat From The Sun

― some dude, Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:16 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"Big Bat Theory"

― PSOD (Ste), Sunday, April 29, 2012 6:40 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

nobody from big bang theory is in the dark knight rises dude

some dude, Monday, 30 April 2012 02:45 (six years ago) Permalink

christian bale in batman by christopher nolan = "serious comic book film"

jgl in barman = popcorn flick for teens, with jgl cooing to interviewers about how "cool" it'll be ala the manchild that he is.

phantompenguin, Monday, 30 April 2012 02:46 (six years ago) Permalink

they got howard to play king tut

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 30 April 2012 02:48 (six years ago) Permalink

would like to see joseph gordon-levitt as mc paul barman

some dude, Monday, 30 April 2012 03:04 (six years ago) Permalink

serious comic book film

This always makes me laugh.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 30 April 2012 03:18 (six years ago) Permalink

well the phrase was used in scare quotes

some dude, Monday, 30 April 2012 03:20 (six years ago) Permalink

want to see a comic serious book film tbh

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Monday, 30 April 2012 03:24 (six years ago) Permalink

have you met ZAC SNYDER harbinger of seriousness and bad films

mh, Monday, 30 April 2012 03:27 (six years ago) Permalink

I liked TDK but I kind of harbor a grudge against the "serious, gritty" Nolan trilogy because it's pretty much the main reason the 60s TV show has never and will never be on DVD.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 30 April 2012 03:29 (six years ago) Permalink

why?

some dude, Monday, 30 April 2012 03:29 (six years ago) Permalink

Do you have something to back that up?
'60s Batman TV show is one of my favorite things ever.
I am fine with a world where gravel-voice nipples Batman wiretaps and Adam West does the Batdance. They can coexist peacefully. I like them both.

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Monday, 30 April 2012 03:32 (six years ago) Permalink

^^

some dude, Monday, 30 April 2012 03:33 (six years ago) Permalink

It's like having an Old Testament and a New Testament God. No one's criticized The Bible for that, I'm pretty sure.

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Monday, 30 April 2012 03:34 (six years ago) Permalink

idk, the jews don't have much truck with the latter

mh, Monday, 30 April 2012 03:35 (six years ago) Permalink

I remember hearing the 60s Batman wasn't on DVD because they don't own the rights to the tv show Batmobile and Warner Bros have to pay the guy through the teeth for it. They can syndicate it without a new contract, but home video is a different ball of wax.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 April 2012 03:40 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah i mean, it hasn't been on home video or dvd or anything ever, for decades. whether DC has done that in part out of some misguided attempt to stop it from 'hurting' the movie franchises or not, can't really lay blame for that at nolan's feet.

some dude, Monday, 30 April 2012 03:43 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah im basing that off something i read on Wikipedia years ago.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 30 April 2012 03:56 (six years ago) Permalink

Still, i think that 60s show gets the short end of the stick. It's pretty awesome.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 30 April 2012 03:58 (six years ago) Permalink

if nolan was remotely the reason the '60s Batman isn't on DVD, that would be some serious "life imitates Simpsons episode" shit

da croupier, Monday, 30 April 2012 04:00 (six years ago) Permalink

"go get 'em, scouts!"

da croupier, Monday, 30 April 2012 04:00 (six years ago) Permalink

I remember hearing the 60s Batman wasn't on DVD because they don't own the rights to the tv show Batmobile and Warner Bros have to pay the guy through the teeth for it. They can syndicate it without a new contract, but home video is a different ball of wax.

AFAIK this is pretty much the truth. The producers of the show made a contract and got paid for TV syndication, which is why Batman can still be shown on TV as reruns, but for it to be released on video would require a separate contract and payment (since for obvious reasons the original contact doesn't cover anything beyond TV runs), and for whatever reason Warner/DC hasn't managed to negotiate one.

Tuomas, Monday, 30 April 2012 07:48 (six years ago) Permalink

Anyway, I haven't been paying much attention to the news regarding this movie, but noticed IMDb now says Liam Neeson will appear in it as Ra's Al Ghul (presumably in flashbacks?) and some kid is playing "young Talia Al Ghul". So that pretty much confirms Marion Cotillard is Talia, right?

And if the movie is gonna deal with the Al Ghul legacy, I doubt they'll have much space to include the Knightfall stuff, Bane will probably just be an henchman of Talia's. Though it would be funny if the movie ended with Bruce Wayne getting his back broken and the Batman mantle being passed to AZRAEL, played by Joseph Gordon-Levitt. Actually, it would be kinda fitting, as Azrael was originally supposed to be a critique of the idea of a grim & gritty 90s Batman, but the Nolan movies seemed to have embraced that idea fully.

Tuomas, Monday, 30 April 2012 08:03 (six years ago) Permalink

want to see a comic serious book film tbh

― Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Sunday, April 29, 2012 11:24 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh no you don't!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJicfFcO74E

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Monday, 30 April 2012 09:46 (six years ago) Permalink

wtf I can't believe they adapted THAT book

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Monday, 30 April 2012 14:33 (six years ago) Permalink

the neanderthal incest novel

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Monday, 30 April 2012 14:33 (six years ago) Permalink

"serious comic book film" = american splendor...?

phantompenguin, Monday, 30 April 2012 18:50 (six years ago) Permalink

nobody from big bang theory is in the dark knight rises dude

― some dude, Monday, 30 April 2012 02:45 (15 hours ago) Permalink

Two Broke Bats

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 30 April 2012 18:51 (six years ago) Permalink

hough it would be funny if the movie ended with Bruce Wayne getting his back broken and the Batman mantle being passed to AZRAEL, played by Joseph Gordon-Levitt.

I would love if this meant JGL is playing a cartoon cat henchman.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Monday, 30 April 2012 18:55 (six years ago) Permalink

yikes

Simon H., Tuesday, 1 May 2012 03:31 (six years ago) Permalink

Kaboom, etc.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 03:36 (six years ago) Permalink

Nice to see that bottle brush treatment on Bane's throat nodes did the trick.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 03:36 (six years ago) Permalink

I was going to say the lack of Cotillard meant some bits were still under wraps, but she's in there toward the end

mh, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 03:43 (six years ago) Permalink

whoo, that was pretty damn cool. cannot wait for this movie.

Bee OK, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 04:45 (six years ago) Permalink

0:12 : wheelchair reversing

I know it's been said already, but the way the two masks are related to each other is just wow, imo. (the mf'ing batman has everything but his mouth covered, while bad guy dude's the diametrically opposite mirror other way round like)

StanM, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 05:18 (six years ago) Permalink

ah damn. looks GREAT. wanted to be all high and mighty about this, but i can't. photography, cinematography, costumes and production design look amazing. excellent trailer.

re bane's mask: i love how it looks like two sets of knuckles trying to pry his jaws apart, real tense and disturbing.

Choc. Clusterman (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 05:30 (six years ago) Permalink

this despite the fact that i didn't much care for either of nolan's previous batman movies

Choc. Clusterman (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 05:31 (six years ago) Permalink

Catwoman says, "You've given these people everything", and Batman answers "Not everything" = another hint that he will die in this movie? (I.e. he hasn't yet given his life for them.)

Tuomas, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 11:50 (six years ago) Permalink

bane's mask looks like goatse

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 12:47 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah that was the really obvious, heavy-handed implication, Tuomas.

mh, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 12:55 (six years ago) Permalink

ha that "not everything, not yet" had me wondering if Bale had de-muppeted the Bat, but "it's not a car" corrected that impression.

da croupier, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:00 (six years ago) Permalink

Would like if Batman ended up in the wheelchair due to lifting heavy books using a poor technique.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:42 (six years ago) Permalink

Alfred desperately warning him in advance but it's too late.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:42 (six years ago) Permalink

I know it's been said already, but the way the two masks are related to each other is just wow, imo. (the mf'ing batman has everything but his mouth covered, while bad guy dude's the diametrically opposite mirror other way round like)

― StanM, Tuesday, May 1, 2012 1:18 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark

the big secret about cotillard's character is that she's a new villain called "hear no evil" that wears extravagantly designed goth earmuffs

some dude, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:44 (six years ago) Permalink

I think you're thinking of Catwoman

mh, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:59 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm not a big fan of the Bane look, it's too Hannibal Lecter for my taste. Just another example of Nolan trying to make Batman overtly serious, I guess.

I know comic book costumes are hard to transfer to live action, but I wish they would've used some kind of a variation of Bane's current costume in the comics, it's pretty awesome:

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/54403/1703271-ss3.jpg

Tuomas, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:07 (six years ago) Permalink

Unlike most super dudes, Bane actually has an in-story explanation for those ridiculous muscles, so I think it's fitting he wears a rather flamboyant top to show them off.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:10 (six years ago) Permalink

Tuomas i don't think you can act surprised at this late date that Nolan is staying the course with this franchise's aesthetic. just take a deep breath, try not to make the same point 200 billion times on this thread over the next six months, and wait patiently for McG to be announced as the director of the next Batman movie.

some dude, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:14 (six years ago) Permalink

That trailer definitely implies the end is nigh for Batman. Wouldn't be surprised if there were some sort of passing of the baton -BAT-on - though.

I wonder why villains generally only attack this one city. In these comic book universes, is there, like, a supervillain who ever pummels, say, the entire state of Iowa into submission? Or are folks in Des Moines picking up the paper and thinking, phew, thank god I don't live in Gotham, shit is going down?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:17 (six years ago) Permalink

Alfred desperately warning him in advance but it's too late.

― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda)

too late indeed

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:19 (six years ago) Permalink

dammit canks

goole, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:19 (six years ago) Permalink

Or are folks in Des Moines picking up the paper and thinking, phew, thank god I don't live in Gotham, shit is going down?

Every morning, man. Every morning.

mh, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:30 (six years ago) Permalink

I wonder why villains generally only attack this one city. In these comic book universes, is there, like, a supervillain who ever pummels, say, the entire state of Iowa into submission? Or are folks in Des Moines picking up the paper and thinking, phew, thank god I don't live in Gotham, shit is going down?

They recently kinda tried to address this in Marvel comics by making every US state have its own superteam. But yeah, usually they just ignore the whole question, and with Marvel it's actually worse than with DC - most major DC heroes (Batman, Superman, Flash, Green Arrow, etc) live in separate fictional cities, whereas with Marvel 80% of the heroes live in NYC.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:32 (six years ago) Permalink

I do appreciate the scope of Nolan's Batman stories, though. Gotham as an island, both figuratively and literally, with the rest of the world only existing when it makes sense for the story. I never read it, but wasn't there a late 90s/early 00s story -- No Man's Land, maybe -- where the national government basically said they were throwing up their hands and giving up on Gotham? The same sort of thing seems to be happening here -- the entire city under siege, the bridges being destroyed, Batman in exile.

As opposed to villains who have some sort of grand scheme but mostly seem interested in screwing with Batman/Bruce Wayne, Nolan's trilogy started with a villain who wanted to basically level the place and start over. So you have an external siege on the city with Batman being triumphant, an internal siege on the city from a villain who acts as a force of nature and Harvey Dent triumphant (according to public perception), and finally the external siege that has the weakness of the second part's lie to work off of.

mh, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:38 (six years ago) Permalink

i think it's just pointless to wonder whether all the action IS in the city the story takes place in, like if they made some allusion to "well, Metropolis has its own problems right now!" that would just be a stupid fan service thing. besides, Gotham is a crime-ridden hellhole, asking why different villains are making trouble there and not elsewhere is like asking why Al Capone didn't do his business out in the countryside.

some dude, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:48 (six years ago) Permalink

They recently kinda tried to address this in Marvel comics by making every US state have its own superteam.

stupidest thing i ever heard

goole, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:50 (six years ago) Permalink

haha you are a supreme federalist even in comic book matters

max, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:52 (six years ago) Permalink

can't wait for that crisis in grand forks crossover storyline

goole, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:53 (six years ago) Permalink

Hey, Great Lakes Avengers brought us Squirrel Girl, so just focus on the upside.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifty_State_Initiative

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:53 (six years ago) Permalink

(Fifty State Initiative actually turned out to be of some use during the "Secret Invasion" Skrull storyline, since the already-placed state teams were largely uncompromised.)

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:54 (six years ago) Permalink

tbf Marvel mocked their own biases pretty well with the Great Lakes Avengers
lol xp

mh, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:55 (six years ago) Permalink

have they gone back and re-looped Bane? sure sounds way clearer now thankfully. although almost pisstakingly *too* much louder.

piscesx, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:02 (six years ago) Permalink

Delaware The Women Warriors Avengers: The Initiative #26 Asp, Black Mamba, Diamondback, Quicksand, Skein

did joe biden write this

goole, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:02 (six years ago) Permalink

"Squirrel Girl carries a utility belt comprising multiple pouches that contain nuts to give as snacks to her squirrel friends. These are known, to much comedic effect, as her "nut sacks".

Please be in the next Batman movie series, Squirrel Girl.

StanM, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:07 (six years ago) Permalink

i never actually saw the earlier trailer/prologue things that spurred all the outcy about Bane's voice so the first time i heard it was in this new trailer and i instantly thought "wow that sounds wrong, they must've overcorrected in response to the complaints"

some dude, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:11 (six years ago) Permalink

sounds great to me

mh, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:11 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah the voice has definitely been heavily cleared up.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:22 (six years ago) Permalink

GLI member Monkey Joe: Joined the team along with Squirrel Girl, but was killed by Leather Boy in a fit of jealousy.

Choc. Clusterman (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:15 (six years ago) Permalink

oops, GLA

Choc. Clusterman (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:16 (six years ago) Permalink

less Marvel more Batman, guys

So this Bane guy seems not-too-cheery, huh?

mh, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:20 (six years ago) Permalink

Whenever I see a drawing or clip of him I think of the bad guy from "The Road Warrior."

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:01 (six years ago) Permalink

lord goatass

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:03 (six years ago) Permalink

hate bane. such a boring villain. glad that nolan didn't feel constrained by his appearance in the comics.

Choc. Clusterman (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:09 (six years ago) Permalink

he could've been constrained by a flamboyant top to show off those muscles, though, eh? /tuomas

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:10 (six years ago) Permalink

I think the idea has some merit, but actual comic stories with the dude are not that interesting

mh, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:12 (six years ago) Permalink

constrained by a flamboyant top

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:21 (six years ago) Permalink

Unlike most super dudes, Bane actually has an in-story explanation for those ridiculous muscles, so I think it's fitting he wears a rather flamboyant top to show them off.

― Tuomas, Tuesday, May 1, 2012 10:10 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:22 (six years ago) Permalink

the only super-dude whose muscles make no sense to me is skeletor. why's a walking skeleton got to be jacked? preposterous.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:25 (six years ago) Permalink

the thing about bane is he was created for a specific storyline, and nobody could really figure out what to do with him after that story was finished - so as a regular of bman's 'rogue's gallery' hes not so great, but for a one-off story (like a movie) he could be really effective

http://www.denofgeek.com/comics/746701/bane_the_man_who_broke_batman.html

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:31 (six years ago) Permalink

so he's genius + psychotic + super-roids? the shots of him in the trailer show him flanked by soldiers (as guards?), i wonder if there will be a 'military experiment' angle to him

goole, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:40 (six years ago) Permalink

i'm p curious as to what sort of origin this version of catwoman gets to have, if any

zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:43 (six years ago) Permalink

it'd be funny if she was just an eccentric stripper

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:44 (six years ago) Permalink

Maybe it will be revealed she's called catwoman because she can lick her own butt, who knows!

StanM, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:46 (six years ago) Permalink

dramatic arts grad concerned for the 99%

i think it's just anne hathaway

goole, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:46 (six years ago) Permalink

she's using the same voice as from rachel getting married, if that gives a hint to what this catwoman will be all about.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:48 (six years ago) Permalink

Being boring?

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:51 (six years ago) Permalink

The Pet Shop Boys as a very elegant Batman and Robin, this is a vision.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:56 (six years ago) Permalink

I would buy tickets for that.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:57 (six years ago) Permalink

my guess is that batman is captured, and that catwoman and JGL step in somehow?

catbus otm (gbx), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:56 (six years ago) Permalink

There are at least two shots in that trailer of it looks like Batman being thrown down a well.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 20:02 (six years ago) Permalink

oh, so John Kerry is in this?

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 20:05 (six years ago) Permalink

so is JGL supposed to be Robin or something? idgi

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 20:05 (six years ago) Permalink

it turns out he's bat-mite

da croupier, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 20:13 (six years ago) Permalink

my money's on a nightwing type character, skipping robin altogether

catbus otm (gbx), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 20:18 (six years ago) Permalink

oh please let him be Clitoris Red Hood

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 20:19 (six years ago) Permalink

this movie totally needs Bat-mite to liven things up

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 20:20 (six years ago) Permalink

Maybe JGL is Damian al-Ghul/Wayne.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 20:24 (six years ago) Permalink

or... maybe he's TALIA al-Ghul

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 20:26 (six years ago) Permalink

who is left in the inception cast that isn't in this series, now? is it just juno and caprio?

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 20:27 (six years ago) Permalink

Maybe he's the cro-mag Bat-Man from Neal Adam's series. Or, even better, the evolved raptor Robin.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 20:28 (six years ago) Permalink

Evil Transformer Batbot

StanM, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 20:28 (six years ago) Permalink

money is on Bane's "grows up in a prison" story somehow linked to Ra's al Ghul, either him being responsible for it or Bane recruited after that

mh, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 20:29 (six years ago) Permalink

who is left in the inception cast that isn't in this series, now? is it just juno and caprio?

um, Dileep Rao?

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 20:30 (six years ago) Permalink

Ken Watanabe?

mh, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 21:03 (six years ago) Permalink

he's in the first one! "the decoy"

goole, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 21:04 (six years ago) Permalink

(spoiler)

goole, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 21:04 (six years ago) Permalink

Oh shit yeah, I forgot

mh, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 21:09 (six years ago) Permalink

who is left in the inception cast that isn't in this series, now? is it just juno and caprio?

― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, May 1, 2012 3:27 PM (53 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

funny enough, if you were shooting frank miller's the dark knight, ellen page would be about right for the robin part.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 22:01 (six years ago) Permalink

Trailer looks great. Though I'm a bit surprised that Nolan seems to have taken those overblown, editorially-driven "big event" storylines from the 90s (Knightfall, Cataclysm) as the main inspiration for the story.

Duane Barry, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 01:18 (six years ago) Permalink

The Pet Shop Boys as a very elegant Batman and Robin, this is a vision.

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:56 (Yesterday)

it happened!

http://i2.fastpic.ru/big/2011/0513/65/4f96c9aa402d2489ed9d70c01279e565.jpg

piscesx, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 01:51 (six years ago) Permalink

Hahah, that's right!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 03:32 (six years ago) Permalink

my money's on a nightwing type character, skipping robin altogether

I thought about this too; if Gordon-Levitt is supposed to be a version of Dick Grayson/Nightwing, maybe the movie will end with Bruce Wayne dying/becoming paralyzed and Gordon-Levitt's character becoming the new Batman, just like they did with Dick Grayson in the recent "Batman RIP" comic book storyline. (IIRC, didn't Dick become Batman for a while in the original Bane story arc too, after Bane broke Bruce's back?) That way they could do both the "Bruce Wayne sacrifices everything" story and end the movie on a hopeful note, as well as set things up for the future Batman movies.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 09:15 (six years ago) Permalink

I thought they were rebooting the franchise. So basically they could have Batman die and the world explode in a nuclear blast and it wouldn't stop the fact that in 5-6 years we'll be plunking down $$$ to see a new version of the Batman origin story.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 13:19 (six years ago) Permalink

maybe JG-L is just like his character in Inception where he doesn't really do much of anything but Nolan wrote him a part because he wanted him in the ensemble

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 13:25 (six years ago) Permalink

He's be tossed around by Bane in zero gravity.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 13:30 (six years ago) Permalink

I thought about this too; if Gordon-Levitt is supposed to be a version of Dick Grayson/Nightwing, maybe the movie will end with Bruce Wayne dying/becoming paralyzed and Gordon-Levitt's character becoming the new Batman, just like they did with Dick Grayson in the recent "Batman RIP" comic book storyline. (IIRC, didn't Dick become Batman for a while in the original Bane story arc too, after Bane broke Bruce's back?) That way they could do both the "Bruce Wayne sacrifices everything" story and end the movie on a hopeful note, as well as set things up for the future Batman movies.

this is pretty much what everyone seems to be saying.

i suppose ultimately only one gravelly voice can prevail.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 13:34 (six years ago) Permalink

short of something that played out the whole Grayson/Nightwing arc over a couple movies (and even that would have to be done really well to work), the idea of a Batman movie with someone other than Bruce Wayne under the mask can fuck off imo

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 13:41 (six years ago) Permalink

Reboot, remember?

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 13:42 (six years ago) Permalink

Re boot

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 13:42 (six years ago) Permalink

you know who they should make Batman, is Alfred

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 13:43 (six years ago) Permalink

i was responding to garda/tuomas's scenario, though (xpost)

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 13:44 (six years ago) Permalink

"fine, we'll let you break batman's back, but you have to offer a new hero at the end while we scream from the rooftops that a reboot is imminent." if it wasn't DC/Warner Bros I'd never believe a studio would follow their biggest hit ever with a sequel that depressing and irrelevant.

da croupier, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 13:50 (six years ago) Permalink

there should be several batmans. they would get more done.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 13:55 (six years ago) Permalink

There is no way Gordon-Levitt becomes Batman. I wouldn't be surprised if he were either a) turned into a villain or b) killed in this.

I do respect Nolan for apparently stopping the trickle of trailers after this one. No more hints a la "Prometheus"(until some stupid site spoils it for everyone).

Per reboots, at least that trend makes sense in the context of comic book movies. Comics are rebooting all the time. It's not like the reboot of "Friday the 13th" or whatever, totally gratuitous. Comic movie reboots are in keeping with a proud tradition: new artist/writer, new comic.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 13:55 (six years ago) Permalink

Nude writer, nude comic.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 14:04 (six years ago) Permalink

hope nolan's/dc's bright enough to know finality doesn't necessarily mean offing the lead so much as completing an arc. Bale can just be like "ah, a job well done, time for a nap" after putting Gotham in a happy place. Batman doesn't have to announce his retirement or turn into a franchise or anything. And then they don't have to go to great lengths to say Justice League Batman 2014 has absolutely nothing to do with the dead/retired batman you saw two years ago.

da croupier, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 14:08 (six years ago) Permalink

bane is like

http://i.imgur.com/u2Zrm.jpg

dayo, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 14:14 (six years ago) Permalink

Bale can just be like "ah, a job well done, time for a nap" after putting Gotham in a happy place.

Read that as 'Bane' initially and was all "Well that's one way to look at it..."

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 14:39 (six years ago) Permalink

lol

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 14:39 (six years ago) Permalink

croup's total distaste for the idea of him ever dying is making me bloodthirsty to see a dead Bats

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 14:40 (six years ago) Permalink

Tom Hardy as violent city masseuse. "You should be more relaxed now!"

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 14:42 (six years ago) Permalink

I kind of assume that with all the "WILL HE DIE?" angles in the trailers, there's no way they'll actually kill him.

mh, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 14:49 (six years ago) Permalink

or will they? makes u think

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 14:53 (six years ago) Permalink

guy's they're not gonna kill batman

zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 14:55 (six years ago) Permalink

guys

zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 14:55 (six years ago) Permalink

They're going to kill everyone *but* Batman, and he'll be left looking over the smoldering remains of Gotham thinking, "what now?"

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 14:57 (six years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/70EQ7.jpg

dayo, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 14:58 (six years ago) Permalink

oh DAMN U

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 14:58 (six years ago) Permalink

bane will fuck batman up and throw him in a well, then batman will mope in a wheelchair while gotham cries out "why hath the batman forsaken us?," catwoman and JGL search for sad beardo bruce wayne, find him, there's a physical therapy & training montage, some people die, batman lives on with ETERNAL GUILT

zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 15:05 (six years ago) Permalink

p much

catbus otm (gbx), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 15:07 (six years ago) Permalink

some people die

Probably Catwoman or Marion Cotillard, because Nolan always kills a woman to give his lead something to angst over.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 15:07 (six years ago) Permalink

The Dark Knight Incepts

dayo, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 15:08 (six years ago) Permalink

wouldn't be surprised if they did something kinda like the end of the dark knight returns, though, with bats and/or wayne appearing to die

catbus otm (gbx), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 15:09 (six years ago) Permalink

there's a physical therapy & training montage,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU9Uwhjlog8

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 15:16 (six years ago) Permalink

Marion Cotillard is gonna be the villain, cozy up to Bruce Wayne and then BAM he wakes up with Bane throwing him in a pit

mh, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 15:23 (six years ago) Permalink

Comic movie reboots are in keeping with a proud tradition: new artist/writer, new comic.

I totally don't have a problem with this. I do have a problem with telling the same origin story over and over.

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 15:25 (six years ago) Permalink

bane will fuck batman up and throw him in a well, then batman will mope in a wheelchair while gotham cries out "why hath the batman forsaken us?," catwoman and JGL search for sad beardo bruce wayne, find him, there's a physical therapy & training montage, some people die, batman lives on with ETERNAL GUILT

^^^also this

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 15:25 (six years ago) Permalink

the first two movies made a big deal about how physically punishing the batman line of work is, i wonder if the third won't go to something permanent

goole, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 15:29 (six years ago) Permalink

like a convalescence home for batmen?

mh, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 15:31 (six years ago) Permalink

that would be comedy central i think

goole, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 15:33 (six years ago) Permalink

batman gets broken back, wayne corps develops groundbreaking medical appliances, gotham's economy is revived by the growth of its biotech & manufacturing sectors, crime goes down. a rising dark knight raises all boats.

zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 15:38 (six years ago) Permalink

How do you rise with a broken back?

caro's johnson (Eazy), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 15:46 (six years ago) Permalink

Is that one of those "How can you hug your kids with nuclear arms?" deals?

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 15:51 (six years ago) Permalink

well if it's broken above s2 u should be cool

catbus otm (gbx), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 15:52 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52Ce0stbcbU

omar little, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 15:53 (six years ago) Permalink

wait no I got that backwards

catbus otm (gbx), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 15:53 (six years ago) Permalink

batman gets broken back, wayne corps develops groundbreaking medical appliances, gotham's economy is revived by the growth of its biotech & manufacturing sectors, crime goes down. a rising dark knight raises all boats.

― zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, May 2, 2012 11:38 AM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this sounds great

max, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 15:54 (six years ago) Permalink

Can't forgive the missed opportunity of "a rising dark knight raises all bats." Cancelling my subscription.

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 15:55 (six years ago) Permalink

batman gets broken back, wayne corps develops groundbreaking medical appliances, gotham's economy is revived by the growth of its biotech & manufacturing sectors, crime goes down. a rising dark knight raises all boats.

― zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, May 2, 2012 11:38 AM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Batman Shrugged

dayo, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 15:58 (six years ago) Permalink

I totally don't have a problem with this. I do have a problem with telling the same origin story over and over.

― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, May 2, 2012 10:25 AM

^^^ THIS THIS THIS

improvised explosive advice (WmC), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 16:06 (six years ago) Permalink

Batman drops his "no guns" stance, shoots Bane in head with bazooka.

scene.

mh, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 16:07 (six years ago) Permalink

for ex. Singer's "Superman" reboot was totally stupid but at least it wasn't a retread of material

xp

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 16:08 (six years ago) Permalink

batman abandons gotham to crime, galt-style, to prove the virtue & necessity of selfishness & vigilantism

zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 16:12 (six years ago) Permalink

any bets on whether Liam Neeson shows up in this in flashbacks or if he's actually in some part?

mh, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 16:15 (six years ago) Permalink

for ex. Singer's "Superman" reboot was totally stupid but at least it wasn't a retread of material

I honestly didn't mind it. I thought Kevin Spacey was the wrong pick for Lex Luthor.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 16:16 (six years ago) Permalink

the baby thing + jesus parallels sorta made me want to stab

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 16:18 (six years ago) Permalink

Superman is JEWISH for fuck's sake

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 16:18 (six years ago) Permalink

My bet on Neeson is flashback.

improvised explosive advice (WmC), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 16:19 (six years ago) Permalink

Unless Nolan goes balls-out and actually brings in the Lazarus Pit to re-introduce Neeson/heal Bruce Wayne after Bane fucks him up.

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 16:22 (six years ago) Permalink

Nolan won't bring in anything explicitly magical/unrealistic

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 16:24 (six years ago) Permalink

It's actually not a bad idea to let Nolan get real dark before a reboot, considering audiences wound up giving more money to Batman Forever than Batman Returns. Though it depends how dark is dark and how much the next movie is really a "reboot".

da croupier, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 16:39 (six years ago) Permalink

Nolan won't bring in anything explicitly magical/unrealistic

Flying Batmobile?

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 16:47 (six years ago) Permalink

He's always grounded that stuff as cutting-edge Wayne Industries/military R&D stuff, though.

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 16:50 (six years ago) Permalink

stuff

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 16:50 (six years ago) Permalink

grounded the batman movies

fka snush (remy bean), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 16:51 (six years ago) Permalink

Batman: Grounded

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 16:56 (six years ago) Permalink

^^new espresso brand

caro's johnson (Eazy), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 17:05 (six years ago) Permalink

guys what if Bane's mask gives him SUPER DRUG ENERGY and it's a SUPER DRUG that can bring someone back from near-death if you're directly exposed to it. like getting thrown in a pit of it can do that, but constant low-level exposure would make you super strong and give you great regenerative powers

this is definitely not what the plot will do, but hey, whatever

mh, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 17:14 (six years ago) Permalink

just watched batman begins again... hard to sympathise with the little kid in danger now i know he grows up to be king joffrey

r|t|c, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:29 (six years ago) Permalink

"In order to beat his enemy, Batman must BECOME his enemy" (inhales Bane mask)

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 22:19 (six years ago) Permalink

I wouldn't write off the Lazarus Pit as they did some shooting in India and the Chand Baori step well is pretty what what I think one of those would look like.

Popture, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 22:26 (six years ago) Permalink

bruce discovered the batcave when he fell into a well, iirc...?

phantompenguin, Thursday, 3 May 2012 04:04 (six years ago) Permalink

sometimes a well is just a well

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 04:56 (six years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

http://i.imgur.com/jNQAp.jpg

StanM, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 03:14 (six years ago) Permalink

Needs more teal!

Trey Imaginary Songz (WmC), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 03:15 (six years ago) Permalink

isnt that just the The Dark Knight poster with more explosions

Hungry4Ass, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 03:25 (six years ago) Permalink

more like the dark nought rises

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 05:03 (six years ago) Permalink

Still stoked, but yeah, it's one of the earlier posters with added fire and dude.

StanM, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 05:16 (six years ago) Permalink

Am I the only one who sees Batman looking at his crotch, waiting for his "Dark Knight" to rise?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 07:55 (six years ago) Permalink

Also, why use such a bland and generic font for the title? It's a Batman movie!

Tuomas, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 07:55 (six years ago) Permalink

theyve been using that typeface since batman begins, its brand continuity

Hungry4Ass, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 08:00 (six years ago) Permalink

At one point in the 3rd trailer I thought Batman looked slighter than usual, i.e. JGL rather than CB...?

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 10:45 (six years ago) Permalink

What point exactly?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 10:51 (six years ago) Permalink

About 1:28 and 1:34 in.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 11:24 (six years ago) Permalink

1:44 too; I know Bane is BIG, but Bale as Batman was beefed in the first film, and he looks diddy there.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 11:25 (six years ago) Permalink

looks the same as always to me

Hungry4Ass, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 11:31 (six years ago) Permalink

i see a third batman at 1.52, his upper lip is darker

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 11:39 (six years ago) Permalink

can anyone confirm a fourth batman at 1.57, black guy

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 11:40 (six years ago) Permalink

Think I saw him but I was pretty distracted counting the basketball passes.

the fey monster (ledge), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 11:42 (six years ago) Permalink

the fifth "batman" is the trailer itself

max, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 11:47 (six years ago) Permalink

Am I the only one who sees Batman looking at his crotch, waiting for his "Dark Knight" to rise?

yes

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 12:07 (six years ago) Permalink

the sixth batman is inside every one of us

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 12:08 (six years ago) Permalink

man, movie posters are so lame these days

bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 12:14 (six years ago) Permalink

Tuomas hopes batman is inside him.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 12:33 (six years ago) Permalink

I feel weird agreeing with Tuomas, but Batman is just a slight arm movement from this:

http://michaelmay.us/08blog/12/1221_hotaugustnight.jpg

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 13:24 (six years ago) Permalink

i have no idea how many times in my life i've been excited or impressed by a movie poster, people are just looking for things to complain about seems like

tell peeta my fire dress is draggin on the floor (some dude), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 13:28 (six years ago) Permalink

forget it some dude, it's ILE

that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 13:29 (six years ago) Permalink

tru

tell peeta my fire dress is draggin on the floor (some dude), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 13:31 (six years ago) Permalink

Serious Batman font sucks and is boring, otm

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 15:58 (six years ago) Permalink

really if there's one thing that can make or break a movie for me, it's the font used on the poster

that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:01 (six years ago) Permalink

otm

mh, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:30 (six years ago) Permalink

man, movie posters are so lame these days

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:40 (six years ago) Permalink

Forget the font -- what it's missing is a gallery of dastardly villains.
http://www.bat-mania.co.uk/movie/images/batman_1966.jpg

Øystein, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 19:19 (six years ago) Permalink

from hans zimmer g+ page (possibly the only thing making it worth checking out !) :

http://www.ireallylovemusic.co.uk/art/mask.jpeg

mark e, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 19:57 (six years ago) Permalink

deep

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 03:18 (six years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/Vry2G.gif

Hungry4Ass, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 04:40 (six years ago) Permalink

Oh no, someone used Photoshop to create a movie poster! What a disgrace for the artform!

Tuomas, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 07:57 (six years ago) Permalink

pretty awesome that they were able to show how to recreate it in so few frames, though

mh, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 14:50 (six years ago) Permalink

So like the last movie, there's a kiddie book tie-in. Spoilers of sorts:

http://io9.com/5914447/a-first-look-at-catwomans-heist-and-peter-foley-fan-poster/gallery/1

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 May 2012 14:48 (six years ago) Permalink

Forget the font -- what it's missing is a gallery of dastardly villains.

fuck Frank Gorshin was so amazing

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:07 (six years ago) Permalink

Hot August Dark Knight

Odd Spice (Eazy), Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:11 (six years ago) Permalink

haha

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:12 (six years ago) Permalink

Length: 2h45m

http://i.imgur.com/FjlvE.jpg

StanM, Sunday, 3 June 2012 07:11 (six years ago) Permalink

and that's just the trailer

of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Sunday, 3 June 2012 07:13 (six years ago) Permalink

Seems crazy but that's like 10 minutes longer than The Dark Knight.

circa1916, Sunday, 3 June 2012 08:48 (six years ago) Permalink

10 mins for extra brooding.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 3 June 2012 14:37 (six years ago) Permalink

god this thing better not have like 17 endings

Simon H., Sunday, 3 June 2012 14:49 (six years ago) Permalink

The last hour is all the characters sailing off across the sea towards the grey havens, IIRC from the book.

StanM, Sunday, 3 June 2012 15:05 (six years ago) Permalink

They resolve it by explaining this whole series has all been taking place in Joseph Gordon-Levitt's dreamstate mind. It ends with 20 minutes of talking. Then a machine gun fight on skis.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 June 2012 18:27 (six years ago) Permalink

Bale, Oldman and Gordon-Levitt were on the MTV Movie awards last night showing a little clip. JGL has the most bizarre, contrived-sounding speaking voice when he's 'himself' on TV and not in a movie role, noticed it when he hosted SNL too.

kel ler/pharmacists (some dude), Monday, 4 June 2012 14:41 (six years ago) Permalink

i chalk it up to him being a child actor.

phantompenguin, Monday, 4 June 2012 16:23 (six years ago) Permalink

so glad they didn't go with Sweaty Bigface as the Riddler, *yikes*

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 4 June 2012 23:39 (six years ago) Permalink

Advance tickets for sale now and this fucker is selling out like crazy, can't get anything I want on Fandango.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 June 2012 17:39 (six years ago) Permalink

Looks like there's one more trailer...

http://io9.com/5919611/new-dark-knight-rises-trailer-lets-joseph-gordon+levitt-take-the-wheel

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 17:12 (six years ago) Permalink

starting to get really amped about this.

Bee OK, Thursday, 21 June 2012 03:07 (six years ago) Permalink

i really dug the five minutes of footage before MI4 (note: was lifted), but i gotta be honest, the trailers for this have been pretty lame. ya ok, the football field collapses. and a couple bridges fall down. and a bunch of crowd scenes, which are always terrible.

funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Thursday, 21 June 2012 05:13 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah. i'll wait and see i guess

Black_vegeta (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 21 June 2012 05:31 (six years ago) Permalink

the daylight brawl footage could use some BOF!s and POW!s

da croupier, Thursday, 21 June 2012 05:40 (six years ago) Permalink

i really dug the five minutes of footage before MI4 (note: was lifted), but i gotta be honest, the trailers for this have been pretty lame. ya ok, the football field collapses. and a couple bridges fall down. and a bunch of crowd scenes, which are always terrible.

― funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Thursday, June 21, 2012 1:13 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is kind of a silly criticism imo. it's a musical montage-driven trailer for a movie that they're trying to withhold plot details about, of course it's going to lean heavily on glimpses of big action setpieces and not give you much of an idea what actually watching the movie from scene to scene will be like.

here's my lumber, so jack me maybe (some dude), Thursday, 21 June 2012 14:12 (six years ago) Permalink

i think s1oc was saying that the big spectacle stuff looks lame

Black_vegeta (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 21 June 2012 14:17 (six years ago) Permalink

I hear that Bane also wrecks Bruce Wayne financially, through the business dealings of his firm, Bane Capital.

mh, Thursday, 21 June 2012 14:18 (six years ago) Permalink

It's mostly a legal drama about the case of Bane v Wayne.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 21 June 2012 14:19 (six years ago) Permalink

The opening sequence looks (and by all accounts is) pretty cool

Number None, Thursday, 21 June 2012 14:23 (six years ago) Permalink

Nolan does good set pieces! The one opening that last film could be a film in itself.

mh, Thursday, 21 June 2012 14:24 (six years ago) Permalink

I hear Bill Clinton has a lot of respect for the good work Bane has done.

nuts spats (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 21 June 2012 14:36 (six years ago) Permalink

i think s1oc was saying that the big spectacle stuff looks lame

― Black_vegeta (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, June 21, 2012 10:17 AM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah but i dunno "crowd scenes suck!" is a weird thing to say imo. as if a) any movie like isn't going to be to some extent about a SUPER VILLAIN TERRORIZING THE CITY OF GOTHAM, CUE SCREAMING CROWD and b) c'mon that'll be what 4 minutes of screentime in this thing?

here's my lumber, so jack me maybe (some dude), Thursday, 21 June 2012 14:43 (six years ago) Permalink

any movie like THIS, meant to say

here's my lumber, so jack me maybe (some dude), Thursday, 21 June 2012 14:43 (six years ago) Permalink

"A sensitive, crafty Dark Knight faces a heartless goliath named BAIN" vs. "A resourceful millionaire defends the American way from an aggrieved lunatic obsessed with the redistribution of wealth"

da croupier, Thursday, 21 June 2012 14:44 (six years ago) Permalink

scenes where groups of people run at each other yelling are so rarely good

funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Thursday, 21 June 2012 15:00 (six years ago) Permalink

anyway, that's just one thing, i'm just not feeling ~dun dun dun~ *BRIDGE EXPLODES*

but then again, the airplane scene was pretty awesome. so who knows

funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Thursday, 21 June 2012 15:01 (six years ago) Permalink

scenes where groups of people run at each other yelling are so rarely good

― funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:00 AM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

1) Braveheart 2) yeah i think that's it

here's my lumber, so jack me maybe (some dude), Thursday, 21 June 2012 15:27 (six years ago) Permalink

blazing saddles

goole, Thursday, 21 June 2012 15:35 (six years ago) Permalink

Gangs of New York, ymmv

Julie Derpy (Phil D.), Thursday, 21 June 2012 15:44 (six years ago) Permalink

the worst

funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Thursday, 21 June 2012 15:44 (six years ago) Permalink

barry lyndon
the red and the white

gangs of new york is the worst film ever made tho, yeah

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 21 June 2012 15:50 (six years ago) Permalink

<3 barry lyndon but I always feel like it's a comedy and giggle the whole time

mh, Thursday, 21 June 2012 15:51 (six years ago) Permalink

Seven Samurai

a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 21 June 2012 15:53 (six years ago) Permalink

the point is, that stuff doesn't really look exciting to me in the trailer, it just looks like a bunch of extras running and yelling

funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Thursday, 21 June 2012 15:59 (six years ago) Permalink

i don't disagree. just seems like an inevitable (and inevitably small, in this case) piece of any city-under-siege superhero movie.

here's my lumber, so jack me maybe (some dude), Thursday, 21 June 2012 16:06 (six years ago) Permalink

actually from what i understand half the movie is people screaming in the streets in daylight and then bane kills batman and the second half is JGL crying

da croupier, Thursday, 21 June 2012 16:11 (six years ago) Permalink

no spoilers

funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Thursday, 21 June 2012 16:12 (six years ago) Permalink

wooops

da croupier, Thursday, 21 June 2012 16:12 (six years ago) Permalink

no no, s1ocki means he's crying because someone stole his car's spoilers

StanM, Thursday, 21 June 2012 16:15 (six years ago) Permalink

right?

StanM, Thursday, 21 June 2012 16:16 (six years ago) Permalink

first of all, i didnt admit that i was crying

funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Thursday, 21 June 2012 16:16 (six years ago) Permalink

i mean, i didnt SAY that i was crying

funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Thursday, 21 June 2012 16:17 (six years ago) Permalink

but you are crying, right

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 21 June 2012 16:22 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm crying because I meant da croupier and not s1ocki ;_;

StanM, Thursday, 21 June 2012 16:24 (six years ago) Permalink

s1ocki, if it makes you feel better, I'm not feeling the trailers, either

I don't have a theory tho

nuts spats (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:37 (six years ago) Permalink

really can't tell much from trailers so wth

funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:37 (six years ago) Permalink

Braveheart. Worst movie ever.

old people are made of poop (Eric H.), Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:46 (six years ago) Permalink

trailers don't have me ecstatic but it still looks better than Batman Forever

da croupier, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:09 (six years ago) Permalink

did not dig the trailer shown before prometheus at all. movie looks boring, bane looks/seems superboring

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:26 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah tbh i am not encouraged by the Bane thing at all. my personal policy is 'avoid trailers, and if you must watch them don't put too much stock in them good or bad,' but i realize i'm always gonna be a minority in that belief.

here's my lumber, so jack me maybe (some dude), Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:31 (six years ago) Permalink

SPOILERS

Rutger Hauer's ousted character from the previous films returns with the support of a large venture capital firm that has been buying interest in Wayne Enterprises in the years since the last film. Bruce Wayne, who has been largely been pretending to be a figurehead and philanthropist while leaving the day-to-day operations to Lucius Fox who has proven to be more science- than business-minded. The early movie Gotham intrigue is a Robin Hood-type cat burglar who is brazen enough to approach Wayne himself.

Bane then attacks the city, after being rescued by a shadowy organization in the movie's intro and told that the time he's been trained for has come. His assault on Gotham, oddly enough, uses a number of Wayne scientific advances and gear, including the tumbler (batmobile) and body armor. Because the shadowy organization was really Bane Capital -- just kidding, it was Ra's al Ghul's organization. Ra's al Ghul's daughter, Talia, has been undercover and posing as a fellow philanthropist. She delivers Wayne to Bane. Catwoman knew something about Bane or Ra's al Ghul but didn't take it seriously enough

Second act is Batman/Wayne in the prison Bane was raised/trained in and JGL trying to figure out what happened to Batman and eventually raising a citizen army to hold the city together, after teaming up with Catwoman. Third act is Batman rising from the depths of the prison and joining up with the forces to take back Gotham.

I estimate this is about 5% accurate.

mh, Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:33 (six years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

just realized how much this reminds me of this. DK.3 RELOADED

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:15 (six years ago) Permalink

Hahah nice catch.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:18 (six years ago) Permalink

not sure if this was posted, nice juicy behind the scenes feature

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZuhCaKbUzY

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:30 (six years ago) Permalink

Embargo is lifted. Reviews coming in thick and fast.

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Monday, 16 July 2012 21:42 (six years ago) Permalink

I got the impression the first round of reviews is only from critics who went on the junket, and the actual showings for critics happen tomorrow or so?

hot sauce delivery device (mh), Monday, 16 July 2012 21:43 (six years ago) Permalink

or as Ebert put it:
"Warners moved up their embargo on Dark Knight to favor junket whores. Movie doesn't even *screen* in Chicago until Tuesday."

hot sauce delivery device (mh), Monday, 16 July 2012 21:44 (six years ago) Permalink

TIME's Richard Corliss, meaning every word:

"The Avengers" is kid stuff compared with this meditation on mortal loss and heroic frailty. For once a melodrama with pulp origins convinces viewers that it can be the modern equivalent to Greek myths or a Jonathan Swift satire.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 July 2012 21:48 (six years ago) Permalink

*strokes beard thoughtfully, wipes single tear*

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 16 July 2012 21:51 (six years ago) Permalink

*does the Batusi*

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 July 2012 21:54 (six years ago) Permalink

*lovingly clutches Hero With A Thousand Faces*

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 16 July 2012 21:57 (six years ago) Permalink

Where have all the good men gone
and where are all the gods?
Where's the streetwise Hercules to fight the rising odds?
Isn't there a white knight upon a fiery steed?
Late at night I toss
and I turn
and I dream of what I need.
I need a hero. I'm holding out for a hero 'til the end of the night.

tylerw, Monday, 16 July 2012 21:58 (six years ago) Permalink

"The Avengers" is kid stuff compared with this meditation on mortal loss and heroic frailty.

That's why I liked it, you blockhead. How many ponderous and broody superhero movies does the world need?

LISTEN TO THIS BRAD (Nicole), Monday, 16 July 2012 22:00 (six years ago) Permalink

you mean Thor doesn't meditate on mortal loss and heroic frailty in The Avengers? he should do that because .. oh wait no he shouldn't.

tylerw, Monday, 16 July 2012 22:04 (six years ago) Permalink

Spiderman 2 does it pretty well without being all emo about it

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 16 July 2012 22:06 (six years ago) Permalink

kid stuff

!

a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Monday, 16 July 2012 22:06 (six years ago) Permalink

I still want to see Dark Knight Rises, and maybe I'll enjoy it for some of those very reasons but ugh does all that chinstrokey grownup stuff really have to be a thing that is waved over all the other equally good comic book movies?

why oh why etc

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 16 July 2012 22:08 (six years ago) Permalink

no Veg all comic book movies must be the same because all comics are the same DO U SEE

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 July 2012 22:11 (six years ago) Permalink

That screencap reminds me how awful the CGI looks in that football scene. I mean, the efx have been generally pretty good in this franchise so far, which makes that clip in the trailers stand out even more.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 16 July 2012 22:14 (six years ago) Permalink

how could you be that upset about a review of a movie you haven't seen? The trailers don't look that good.

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 16 July 2012 22:18 (six years ago) Permalink

Doesn't look anything like the last cave-in I witnessed.

hot sauce delivery device (mh), Monday, 16 July 2012 22:20 (six years ago) Permalink

It just looks like a super obvious greenscree and the players don't blend in at all with what's going on in the background.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 16 July 2012 22:22 (six years ago) Permalink

I don't know when various cities got it for critics. NYC already had it, I think?

GK: http://movies.msn.com/movies/movie-critic-reviews/the-dark-knight-rises/

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Monday, 16 July 2012 22:25 (six years ago) Permalink

this new obsession with rotten tomatoes scores is so fucking weird

Number None, Monday, 16 July 2012 22:58 (six years ago) Permalink

I tune out as soon as anyone tells me a) Rotten Tomato scores or b)b) IMDB scores.

YAY THIS MOVIE WINS THE INTERNET. But it sucks. So...

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 16 July 2012 23:02 (six years ago) Permalink

For once a melodrama with pulp origins convinces viewers that it can be the modern equivalent to Greek myths

"for once"

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 13:13 (six years ago) Permalink

I really don't understand the people who obsess over rotten tomatoes or think that getting a high or perfect score matters in any significant way.

LISTEN TO THIS BRAD (Nicole), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 13:32 (six years ago) Permalink

It's a 84% now. I bet Nolan wishes he hadn't bothered

Number None, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 13:37 (six years ago) Permalink

this new obsession with rotten tomatoes scores is so fucking weird

Think of it like the weekly poll updates on the presidential superhero contest, only slightly less trivial.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 13:48 (six years ago) Permalink

movies that get in the 95% range are generally boring and average

Simon H., Tuesday, 17 July 2012 13:48 (six years ago) Permalink

im not sure if it's "new" or just reaching new depths of triviality: it's like an immunitary (sp?) response to the threat of disappointment. a whole identity wrapped up in this stuff means that these corporate/cultural products have to be the "real thing." it's fascinating though (in its stupidity).

ryan, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 13:51 (six years ago) Permalink

And here come the death threats for the bad reviews.

Marco YOLO (Phil D.), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 13:57 (six years ago) Permalink

Does "I hope you die" really constitute a death threat?

Ówen P., Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:05 (six years ago) Permalink

No, but hyperbole must be fought with hyperbole. It's the law.

mythical mickey rourke jacket (latebloomer), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:20 (six years ago) Permalink

those Michael Haneke fans are the ones really out for blood

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:25 (six years ago) Permalink

a "good review" is pretty relative, I'd imagine some critics see their review blurbed on rotten tomatoes and realize that their words were misconstrued and a positive review was viewed as negative or vice versa.

hot sauce delivery device (mh), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:25 (six years ago) Permalink

puzzling: editors who classify 2.5/4 as "rotten." Math?

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:28 (six years ago) Permalink

Like a superhero inadvertantly attracting/creating supervillains, rottentomatoes inadvertently attract/creates idiots.

mythical mickey rourke jacket (latebloomer), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:30 (six years ago) Permalink

It's the review aggragator site we deserve, but not the...ah fuck it.

mythical mickey rourke jacket (latebloomer), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:32 (six years ago) Permalink

There's always Metacritic, which divines numerals from reviews that don't use any rating scale whatsoever.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:34 (six years ago) Permalink

I was going to mention that site, but I did not dare speak its name. I wonder if they have a robot or wage slave that translates your words into a numeral, Morbs. Either way, what a job.

hot sauce delivery device (mh), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:36 (six years ago) Permalink

I don't think I've used RT more than once. Why does it get more "play" than Metacritic, which is more reliable and easier to navigate?

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:37 (six years ago) Permalink

it got there first i guess

Number None, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:40 (six years ago) Permalink

Metacritic lacks a cutesy name and the magic of the Tomatometer.

Agrees with the Tomatometer 71% of the time.

Don't argue with the Tomatometer!

hot sauce delivery device (mh), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:40 (six years ago) Permalink

Tomatometer/Retemotamot

Marco YOLO (Phil D.), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:43 (six years ago) Permalink

Agrees with the Tomatometer 83% of the time.

I regard this stat with the greatest of shame.

the new dire homonomoreboobsativity (Eric H.), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:46 (six years ago) Permalink

i could never be a critic. i have no idea what i just saw most of the time, let alone if i liked it.

ryan, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:59 (six years ago) Permalink

not a disqualifier by any means.

all my reviews have a star rating, so it's easy for them. not so much for me.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 15:01 (six years ago) Permalink

I don't think I've used RT more than once. Why does it get more "play" than Metacritic, which is more reliable and easier to navigate?

― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, July 17, 2012 7:37 AM (28 minutes ago)

i don't get the "reliable" thing. neither is a useful guide to movie quality. they're guides to what people are saying about movie quality. i think they're about equally reliable in that sense, though neither is perfect. i prefer rottentomatoes because i like the "top critics" filter, which allows me to easily focus on the responses of voices i'm familiar with.

contenderizer, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 15:13 (six years ago) Permalink

oh, I'm not sure anyone mentioned that the RT editor has suspended user comments and they're moving to a non-anonymous system.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:46 (six years ago) Permalink

rip anonymous commenting

hot sauce delivery device (mh), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:48 (six years ago) Permalink

i prefer rottentomatoes because i like the "top critics" filter, which allows me to easily focus on the responses of voices i'm familiar with

yeah but Metacritic does this automatically.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:54 (six years ago) Permalink

neither is a useful guide to movie quality

is that so

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:54 (six years ago) Permalink

i dunno how anyone can having anything but a 'hope for the best, prepare for the worst' attitude towards sequels, historically speaking it's just a crapshoot. i wanna see this and want to enjoy it, but who knows really.

some dude, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 18:43 (six years ago) Permalink

There's always Metacritic, which divines numerals from reviews that don't use any rating scale whatsoever.

Often with clear bias. Seen lots of mostly positive reviews get scored in the 40 percent range.

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 20:11 (six years ago) Permalink

it's pretty rare i want to get a sense of consensus, but i prefer the green-to-red scroll-down formatting of metacritic, despite the lunacy of their imposed rating style, to the relative swamp of rotten tomatoes

da croupier, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 20:13 (six years ago) Permalink

Viocodin is a helluva drug.

LISTEN TO THIS BRAD (Nicole), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 03:57 (six years ago) Permalink

Just incredible the shit that dribbles out of that gaping anal cavity.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 04:03 (six years ago) Permalink

you're looking for the tmi thread I think

hot sauce delivery device (mh), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 04:04 (six years ago) Permalink

lol

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 04:05 (six years ago) Permalink

thank u rush <3

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 04:13 (six years ago) Permalink

i use metacritic all the time but not to figure out movie quality just to see a list of links to reviews

i mean i don't read reviews to figure out movie quality either

a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 06:50 (six years ago) Permalink

i realize the same could be accomplished by googling "[movie name] review" but leave me alone

a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 06:51 (six years ago) Permalink

the first time i appeared on metacritic btw i screencapped it and posted it on my livejournal

a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 06:52 (six years ago) Permalink

Posting screencaps of your metacritic appearances on your livejournal is the new 'dancing about architecture' is the name of my dog, officer.

second dullest ILXor since 1929 (snoball), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 07:54 (six years ago) Permalink

(but YOU don't understand /unclesam)

second dullest ILXor since 1929 (snoball), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 07:54 (six years ago) Permalink

Chase Mitchell ‏@ChaseMit

.@rushlimbaugh You should read up on Bane. He's an oversized drug-addict with anger issues who's been popular since the 90s. You'd love him.

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Marco YOLO (Phil D.), Wednesday,