New York Bars

companion thread to New York Restaurants

You FOOL, this will be at 3000 before nightfall.

question--i am looking for a bar where i can play settlers of catan. where is somewhere

a) in manhattan (somewhere between, lets say houston and, like, 42nd st--trying to meet up w/ people from the ues and morningside heights; i live in bk)
b) not really crowded or loud after work
c) pretty cheap
d) they wont care if we play a board game and have some beers (i imagine this is most bars but you never know)

You want Hell's Kitchen, then, probably? When I briefly dated someone over there, he drank almost exclusively at the Gaf and Conker Hill. I prefer the Gaf but it's a little short of tables, so prob Conker would be better cos it has a few booths. Plus, Max, it's on the West Side so it's good for you and the UWS people.

That's all I got at the mo....

ACTUALLY I take that back -- the Gaf has a whole basement full of tables, IF the construction/plumbing is done by now. Haven't been since December. You could call and ask if basement is open? That would make it perfect.

max i'm not sure if you have ppl to play w/already but monday nights there's a settlers night at a bar on the uws - cosi's.

maybe common ground i have no idea how inconvient thatll be tho

wtf @ there already being a settlers of cazan NIGHT at a bar

catan oops

also i would recommend mona's on 13th & b for this purpose, tho god knows why i'm telling board game players to go to one of my default manhattan bars.

i have ppl to play with + i sort of imagine settlers "night" would be a little intense for my group

also fuck if im going all the way up the west side

hey schef, board games fuckin rule, put that in your pipe and smoke it

~~~~~gaaaaaay~~~~~~

who is more gay - the man who plays the board games - or the man who insults the board game player - zen koan

both

11th st bar doesn't seem to get crowded until really late tho it isn't really cheap imo -- but it also has big tables in the backroom, like mona's.

xpost i'm a lady, not a man!

^^^ now whos gay

Max, don't you live on the A/C?

Oh man I like the 11th Bar, I just don't like walking over there -- too lazy. Even more so for Mona's.

hey schef, board games fuckin rule, put that in your pipe and smoke it

― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, March 30, 2009 2:15 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

~~~~~gaaaaaay~~~~~~

― he sounded italian enough to give me something (the schef (adam schefter ha ha)), Monday, March 30, 2009 2:18 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

pretty sure i've heard this interaction verbatim between certain groups of my friends

yes i live on the a/c but im willing to transfer for a primo settlers spot

^^^ attitude bodes well for your success tonite imo sry i have nowhere else to rec i basically dont know where anything is

it's hardly even a walk to get to mona's or 11th st bar...? i mean it is like 2 blocks from the l train and just a few more over from union square.

i miss mona's. does richie still own it? i recall that he was trying to sell it a year or so ago.

yeah that didn't happen afaik

OK, you're right. You know I'm lazy.

i loved the attempt to spruce that place up - several years ago there was a what appeared to be an oriental rug, long and narrow like a runner, hung on the wall above the bar. awesome.

there are new board games? oh just what we need

settler's of catan has been around for at least 10yrs, bill.

that's NEW

so set in your ways.

btw, i went to motor city for the first time tonight and am 99% sure i know the bartender from the record store--she's in a band with my co-worker's ex, but i can't remember he name.

not true -- i went to a honkytonk in Texas tnite!

xp

first time for everything, but the point remains, you are unwilling to give "new" boardgames a chance and that is SAD.

still so disappointed that motor city changed its pinball machine

settlers is almost 15 years old

i would guess that the board game h8rs have never played it & u know what i would hate board games too if the only ones i knew were monopoly and risk which are fucking terrible but settlers is 100% fun times

but whatever i bet u guys h8 magic cards too which makes ur opinions worthless ime

blue and gold seems to be pretty board game friendly - i mean they have a hand painted monopoly board on one of their tables

so has anyone been to the new brooklyn public house on dekalb - it is supposed to be a gastro pub which is apparently some horrible britishes terminology - are they into dork games i dont know

brooklyn public house's food was very basic and kinda gross. nothing gastro pub about it.

i have played a whole helluva lot of board games including yr precious girlfriend "settlers of catan" and they are just not a fun way to spend time imho. i am only down if it is a game of uno.

i like boggle.

1) settlers of catan isnt my girlfriend, how could it be my girlfriend, when its a board game and not a person, not even a femal person

2) ur gay

3) i like boggle too

i love all game of the world - settlers of catan is obv hugely dorky - u just hav to accept that going in

yea i dont think i ever claimed 2 be anything but a dork, what with asking someone to recommend, a bar, to play a board game in, on, the internet

btw if ne1 wants 2 play we could prob use a 4th

i have never heard of this game before

its german

http://www.criticalgamers.com/archives/pictures/SettlersOfCatan.11.29.06.jpg

ive only played once but i could brush up - a friend of mine plays online all the time - maybe ill give it a shot

here are some of the cool bros what play settlers of catan:

http://lansingboardgamers.com/home/Logs/2005-09-17/Settlers%20of%20Catan%20Sinking.jpg

its pretty easy to pick up. people get way "into" it and im not @ that level yet mostly b/c im not very good.

o i will totally wear my raging inferno button down when we play

<3 catan. the only people i know who are really addicted to it are girls though.

which version do u play max

regular ol settlers. my dude in sf got the expanded edition so u can play w/ 5 or 6 ppl. ive heard mixed things abt 'seafarers' and 'knights' of catan

omfg stop ruining the bars thread guize

lol remember the good old days of the bars thread, before it was ruined by this settlers of catan talk

you have a dude in sci-fi?

a friend was totally scoffing at people who play the original - i think hes into traders and barbarians

of COURSE he does

so what if i have a friend in sci fi

Althought elements of this expansion were available separately from 2004 to 2007, this pack did not release in English until 2008. It combines elements of fishing, events, expanded trading, barbarian attacks, camel trains, and much more to make a more well-rounded playing experience.

i don't have many favorite bars... it's like what's cheap and nearby kind of thing.

frank's lounge next to my house is cute because it's quaint

i finally went to pete's waterfront -- that was not terrible, they had a good scotch ale.

i liked franks a lot the 1 time i was there but isnt it closed right now?

you know what's fun is Carcassonne

back in my day all we had was keep on the borderlands and we liked it

i know we all hate gowanus yacht club but free beer + free hot dogs there this saturday

i've never been to GYC, but Sat will be Citi Field and then Bell House:

http://newyork.decider.com/events/wfmu-presents-freemusicarchiveorg-launch-party,65641/

max j/k, no judgment on games, bro. I wd gladly play u in Cinema Trivial Pursuit.

i've been looking for a friendly scrabble night for years.

i will have scrabble night with you, ian.

I know there usta be lotsa Scrabble on Sunday aftnoon @ Commonwealth. (I've never played.)

wait for serious free beer and hot dogs???

I could drink all these NY bars today.

http://eater.com/uploads/2009_04_gyc1.jpg

^^^ did you happen to see this...yesterday? anyway whatever i will come

i have to go to the slipper room tonight, why does that shithole still exist :(

i happened to see it... on a blog... this morning

APRIL FOOLS

april... fools

it's not...as funny

the last bit of that sign makes it sound like if you show up you have to help them set up

haha, feel better about non-free Shake Shack food @ Mets game

yeah i plan to show up at like 2pm or something, surely they will be done setting up their traditional "four broken ass picnic tables" with some chalk outlines saying "SMOKE HERE" by then??

i do like they are just advertising that justin will be there, i heard he just got back to india and therefore i do probably want to meet him and hear about his wonderful journey which was probably spiritual and life-altering too btw.

love me some justin

*free beer
*free hot dogs
*free conversation with justin

real crime is they missed out on a solid "this just in" pun

this just in... from india

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2007/specials/sma07/mag/justin_timberlake.jpg

hey there girl i just got back from india how you doin

i'm bringin chutneyback

hey fools

tell me about your favorite places to drink outside

it's pretty obscure, but there's this beer garden, sorry BIERGARTEN, in queens.

seriously though, it's great in the afternoon for lunch and drinks, but don't ever go after 5pm. Then it's intolerable.

daddy's backyard circa 2004
my backyard circa 2005

also, mets games (but i haven't been in forever, and obv can't speak to the new shake shake.)

there is a rooftop winebar in wbrg but it probably sucks.
clem's in wburg has tables on the sidewalk and is pretty good if you can score one of those; the interior of the bar is kinda narrow & cramped.

there's a place up btw wb & greenpoint that has a patio, lauren knows this place.

boxcar backyard during happy hour.

all too inconveniently located, ppl

well, down by YR area, morbs, there is the farm on adderley, though i actually don't know if you can just drink outside? they have a bar but it's also a restaurant

and then there's the crown hts beer garden which i enjoyed the three or four times i've been but some might beg to differ

yeah, i hv not been in the Farm yet, DR. or that bar called Sycamore.

ft grn: alibi, stonehome, rope, habana - obvs bunch of restaurants too

sycamore opened about a week after i moved out of the area (he says, bitterly)

farm has great brunch too btw

farms back yard is mad pleasant

f'reals - my ex-roommates hosted a movie night there two summers ago, it was a great place to chill

is it true oconnors back yard is out of commish - teh schef broke this story shortly before signing w/espn

I remember when I could think about spending money on a brunch, 3 weeks ago (he says, bitterly)

I'm in New York right now.

(Night night)

Good Morning.

(I'm off)

i been wanting to go to the flatbush farm so bad

sycamore is great, but i haven't been in the warm weather--there's a backayrd?

also, the "crown heights beer garden" aka Franklin Park is fine when it's not super crowded; good for sunday or saturday afternoons & week nights. ex-ilxor Bell_Labs lives across the street and the noise/music from the bar is often pretty irritating.

4th ave pub and cherry tree both have backyards. i'm holding out hope for the o'connors "beer garden" to reopen but who knows.

spuyten duyvil has expanded their back yard
http://www.the-feedbag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/spuyduyoutdoor.jpg

do you mind if i blog?

wow their yard used to be pretty busted - thats quite nice

never bn to SpDuyvil, wd do.

great beers

new SD backyard looks great. would definitely drink a fancy beer.

Friday, Sunday? (not mobbed?)

Anything happening tonight? I believe my plans just fizzled.

i been wanting to go to the flatbush farm so bad

Flatbush Farm is ok. fwiw they were talking about Farm on Adderley

2nite = in C

what does that mean

Perhaps it's the picturesque new bar with a cozy backyard to hang out in.

My plans have resurrected themselves and I will be able to report back on Dutch Kills, the new retrofit "cocktail bar" in Queens.

who wants drinks after in c?

Flatbush Farm's backyard is nice-ish, but the food is kinda meh

WTF IS IN C???

C is for cookie

fish r in c

in c on t's

whatever it is, i'll be watching Johan Santana

burn!~!!

don't get all riled up

gabbneb, where 2 get drinx in uws w/o a douchefactor of infinity?

happy hour in about 60mins?

...

xp

yesterday i walked by empire hotel and there was a lol hueg line for the rooftop bar and i was like 'lol joeks on u dudez that bar is LAME'

where we gonna get happy? i might have to wait 120 min or so :(

im probly takin off for commonwealth soon, will be gone by 6:30

I don't go to uws bars but in college we liked the uuws abbey pub

specifically we need something near carnegie.

(which i consider midtown still)

(i hate midtown)

http://www.freeicecream.net/events/

– Business Casual combines the lyrical styles of Kats, Domer, brokeMC and the Metermaids with Domer’s hip–hop remixes of your favorite indie rock bands, including the White Stripes, Spoon, MGMT, the Black Lips and more.

– DJ SmutVillain and his crew, Das Wyld Saloonatiks, weave old school hip–hop into 80’s dance beats and blend pop hits with dusty vinyl gems to create feel good party mixes.

tza, is that the royal "we"?

Washington Commons = Good. Great selection of beers on tap, more bottles coming soon according to the bartendress. Backyard is huge, still being put together, but huge. I drank an old speckled hen & some barleywine that was rich but delicious, can't remember the name. Prices are reasonable, happy hours 'til 8 during the week = -$2 off all beers.

also popped into the new bar "Manhattans" owned by Tracy of s1ber1a fame. Awful place. Bottles only, cigarette smoke, glasses & bottles from the night before still out everywhere, no atmosphere to speak of.

no sign out front, newspapers pasted in the windows. in the spot formerly occupied by Ripple iirc.

woulda gone to wash. bar with you but we were up in queens

is this place open yet?

Der Schwarze Kölner Manchester, England, native and former Cologne resident Dale Hall, along with his girlfriend, Randi Lockemann, gives Fort Greene its first German beer garden. Eighteen Deutsch brews will be on tap, along with another 20 by the bottle. In keeping with Hall’s Cologne pedigree, three breweries from that city will represent. In addition to the beers, the space—which features communal tables indoors and both sidewalk and garden seating—will serve traditional foods. Cold items like wurst and cheese plates will be coming first, and hot dishes, including schnitzel and even more sausage, a couple months later. 710 Fulton St at South Oxford St, Fort Greene, Brooklyn (no phone yet)

mmm schnitzel.

not open but looks close

it's open now. i heard it's good. i'm going to go soon -- i really want to try the pretzels.

i've now been to The Box twice. it's kind of fun.

ooh lemme know how it is! am definitely gonna go once i get back

good! when are you getting back?

31st

wonderful

went to the biergarten - was not feeling it - why beer gardens always got to have a fratty vibe - also strangely laid out and super loud - the service felt a lil inattentive and chaotic - it is new tho - would prob be fine on a slow afternoon to sit by the window - theyve got good beer

was the garden open yet?

nope - mightve just been cause it was late tho

i did hear that it wasn't ready to open yet. hopefully that'll be nice, when it does happen.

yeah i wonder what its like back there - cant be v big can it

i don't know, that's kinda what i'm wondering!

it doesnt even seem like there should be an outdoor space there!

need recommendations for bar around murray hill that wont be filled with horrible people right after work

There's an Irish bar right around 31st & 2nd that I remember not being bad.

Rolf's on 3rd Ave is a cool old german place with free sandwiches at the bar during happy hour. at least it was, haven't been there for many years, can't comment on the clientele.

I guess it's this one I meant:

http://www.yelp.com/biz/failte-new-york

it's probably a crowded spot, and it's not huge, but i love molly's on third & 24th (i think?)--is that murray hill, really?

cheapest bar les/east village?

I mean it doesn't have to be the *single cheapest* that is probably dependent on a lot of factors but what place would be a bargain at 6 pm today? also would have seats.

blue and gold, international, cherry tavern, welcome to the johnson's

but i haven't been to any of those in a few years

mona's on ave B

where to go near fort greene? recently moved to lafayette & st. james

more interested in drinking with 'locals' than with pratt students

burger/wings a +

Those little ones on Avenue B. Yeah.

Monas or Music Box or that other one...there are multiple places with like $2 Budweisers during happy hour. Or whatever, but dirt cheap. Boxcar is 2-for-1 for HH.

more interested in drinking with 'locals' than with pratt students

― one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, August 16, 2011 4:16 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

h8 to break it to you bro but pratt students are "the locals"

in order of preference

• the alibi
• hot bird
• frankies (havent been in a while tho)
• fulton grand
• moe's (have only been once)

you should just come down to washington commons and drink with me, though

moe's closed, and then reopened as mo's
what's frankies?

or do you mean frank's?

yeah

"franks"

haha

just read the holiday cocktail lounge closed : (

^OK, I missed that

now, Lakeside Lounge -- we'll be turning off the lights soon.

http://culture.wnyc.org/articles/features/2012/apr/23/lakeside-lounge-closing-after16-years-east-village/

Are there any non-awful bars in midtown east? I just want something that isn't 100% divey/old-man but doesn't have that "Ooh, happy hour, let's get appletinis" vibe

does Kips Bay count? this place was Ok as of a few years ago.

http://www.paddyreillysmusicbar.us/

I went there recently. It's Irishy. Also there's liable to be music a lot of nights, since that place is "the home of Irish music in NYC." Which is a draw for me, but not for all.

like what streets in Midtown East? I'm at 44th around Grand Central and most everything around here blows. generic Irish bars with $8 pints. best one is probably O'Neill's at 45th and 3rd, decent happy hour. Perfect Pint around the corner on 45th is ok, multi-level with an open air roof bar, always mobbed though. those are my usual picks if I go out after work around here but like I said the prices are ridic. I'm hoping someone has a good answer for you actually.

there's also a relatively new german beer garden upstairs on 3rd Ave but I haven't tried it yet. Hofbrau Bierhaus.

Hurting, 3rd Ave is chock-a-block with Irish bars?? Molly's is a good one.

xp dmr otm

yeah I don't mind Irish bars, it's the Midtown prices that blow

Yeah I guess Irish bars are ok. I'm near that Hofbrau Bierhaus, want to try.

ari works around grand central and theres nothing that weve ever been able to find

I'm in the low 50s on third. Every work happy hour I've ever gone to in this area has been in a miserable place.

just embrace your inner bro

I'm just saying, Molly's makes what is arguably the best cheeseburger in NY and it comes with a side of mashed potatoes.

molly's is also like 25 blocks from hurting's office tho.
but yeah it's great. they have good wings too.

hey guys guess who left his credit card at commonwealth and only remembered when he stepped out of the g at court sq

NNNOOOOOOOOO oh Iatee. You should have closed out your tab with me!

I very much agree with that statement

blauggghhhh

so yeah I went back, it ended up only being an hour of my life cause I got lucky w/ trains but the moment of realization was pretty horrible

:( whatta drag. at least you got it back asap and didnt' forget for like, two days or something.

i like that Hot Bird now has a bbq restaurant attached to it. that is v convenient, even if their fries are kinda wack.

do they make hot chicken?

no :(
but the pulled pork & brisket & sausages are all good.

they have BBQ chicken, i dont know if it qualifies as "hot"? its certainly warm

but yeah its decent BBQ and not too pricey and theyll take it over to you at hot bird if u tell em where youre seating

tbh now that they have food i dont know why id go to any other bar this summer

i see hanging out in our future.

real talk

wish hot bird opened earlier than 4, would like to just post up there every afternoon for 7-8 hrs and let ppl call on me

not a bar (but byob restaurant) but i love this place in y'alls neighborhood: http://www.uminom.com/

nice. never been but on their website they call it a sister restaurant to Kuma Inn in the LES, I'm a fan.

they have BBQ chicken, i dont know if it qualifies as "hot"? its certainly warm

― max, Monday, April 23, 2012 1:20 PM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hot Chicken is Nashville-style spicy fried chicken.

iirc peaches in bed stuy has hot chicken?

which i guess isn't what the sign that gives hot bird its name is talking about since it says no frying. i just want a place called hot bird to have it.

commodore in williamsburg does it, too.
xp

huh, well the bbq place next to hot bird is owned by the peaches folks

so it's basically smoke joint? still a little mad at those guys for closing little piggy which was the best place to eat in the neighborhood for a while, but smoke joint is always packed so i guess they know what they're doing.

i think its better than smoke joint but i havent eaten at smoke joint in a while. definitely cheaper.

anyone been to the revamped Holiday Lounge?

http://gothamist.com/2015/03/10/holiday_cocktail_lounge.php#photo-1

Excited to drop a lot of $$$ in NYC bars this weekend.

tearing up a little at the mentions of the alibi, frank's and moe's

well i forgot to hit the Grassroots one last time

https://vanishingnewyork.blogspot.com/2018/01/the-grassroots-tavern.html

rotten apple still got #bars
raise up

Never went to grasslands but the Blue and Gold Bar was my steady many years ago

I love how max started this thread looking for places to play board games

bar matchless is closing :(

Shout out to the recent closing of Hi-Fi/Brownies.

The old joke rings true about these places that are closing becoming either a Duane reade, a nail salon, or a bank

Recommend me a bar that has good low-key dance nights (as opposed to a club) and where you could conceivably start dancing earlier than midnight with a decent crowd there.

Never went to grasslands but the Blue and Gold Bar was my steady many years ago

― calstars, Thursday, January 4, 2018 2:21 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

my measurement of whether new york is over or not is based on blue & gold staying open. think they own the building though

Nice
I also spotted it in the HBO show “the deuce”

A scene in the Mrs Maisel show shows them walking into a bar with a giant sign on the window reading "Kettle of Fish" and I was never a regular at the Kettle but I don't think that was the Kettle.

i don't think i visited a bar on my own volition in 2017

I (sorta) regret to inform you that my bar HiFi will be closing at the end of this calendar month, ending my 23 year tenure at 169 Avenue A. All parties booked before the end of the month will happen as planned. The story? Quite simply, the renovations we undertook a few years ago to reinvigorate the business were not successful in putting us back on a good financial footing.The generation of people who inhabit this neighborhood on weekends remain mostly indifferent to the place. HiFi seems to occupy a place square in the middle between “dive bar” and “mixologist paradise” — and while I hoped that would help us have a broad appeal to the newbies, it turns out that it translated as utilitarian (aka boring) to their tastes.

Can someone familiar with the current state of NYC bardom explain to me what he's talking about? What kind of bar do the people who live in the Brownies/HiFi neighborhood (or "inhabit it on weekends" -- are those different people?) now want? What does it mean for a bar to be "utilitarian" and why is that bad?

I think he means they either want $13 cocktails or to be drinking with grandpas.

$30 cocktails

I went to hi fi once in the past two years or so and despite the renovations(?) it still had the vibe of an old neighborhood place (which it was) and not really the kind of joint where 20 somethings would hang out given the multitude of options on Ave A, where there are more bars per block than almost anywhere else in manhattan.

It did have a really cool, intimate space for music in the back.

Recommend me a bar that has good low-key dance nights (as opposed to a club) and where you could conceivably start dancing earlier than midnight with a decent crowd there.

― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive)

If you don't mind going to the Upper East Side, Ethyl's Alcohol is the bomb. Excellent retro-oriented dj's plus go go dancers. Actually has quite an old East Village vibe.

A scene in the Mrs Maisel show shows them walking into a bar with a giant sign on the window reading "Kettle of Fish" and I was never a regular at the Kettle but I don't think that was the Kettle.

― Conic section rebellion 44 (in orbit)

They were trying to portray the original location on MacDougal St. Now it's on Christopher St.

for awhile, the Kettle of Fish was the old (second) Folk City.

I was looking to see if Subway Soul Club is still around, but they host it in Gowanus now.

should i go here before it closes?

http://gothamist.com/2018/12/21/chelsea_half_king_closing.php

White Horse tavern sold

Villagers have heard that “exactly as it is” pledge before about such historic places as the Waverly Inn and the Minetta Tavern, which were then turned into playpens for the rich and the vacuous. However, since the buildings contain 17 market-rate apartments it appears this deal is not so much to acquire a historic pub, but more a real estate transaction....

Author and radio host Malachy McCourt told me that he was prepared to lead a wake at the White Horse. When I asked him if he was serious he emailed me, “Yes I am serious about the gig. Peter Carlaftes of Three Rooms Press asked me to do it. He lives in the Village and is appalled at the destruction of the artistic life. So the answer is of course Yes! So Thursday, 21st March at 4 pm and only the God-guy knows what will happen, but let’s go for it!”

https://www.irishcentral.com/news/white-horse-greenwich-dylan-thomas-sold

When workers removed the bar from the former Grassroots Tavern (1975-2017) on St. Mark's Place last week, they discovered these old murals. I have no idea how old they old. The landmarked building dates to 1832. [Photos by Derek Berg] pic.twitter.com/rEPN7Ej2Zc

— evgrieve (@evgrieve) May 21, 2019

i didn't even know that closed. haven't been in that neighborhood since forever