"I want those two hours of my life back!"

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People say this all the time about movies they hated. Why does it bother me so much?

The big reason is probably that it seems to imply that art owes you something, which I disagree with. Also, even if I'm not enjoying myself at the time, I'm ultimately thankful for bad experiences with art as much as good ones for contributing to the refinement of my taste.

I guess it's just a very consumer-oriented attitude.

Is anyone else bothered by this expression? Do you use it yourself?

jaymc, Thursday, 11 December 2008 14:23 (seventeen years ago)

Change the 'hours' to 'minutes' and it's the story of my sex life :(

hyggeligt, Thursday, 11 December 2008 14:24 (seventeen years ago)

I feel this way all the time, but never about movies. You can turn movies off or leave the theater.

Usually, I feel this way about forced social events.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 11 December 2008 14:25 (seventeen years ago)

^^this

android army (Kitties!!!), Thursday, 11 December 2008 14:26 (seventeen years ago)

I feel this way sometimes about ilx otherwise no, it's a stupid thing to say xp for reasons mentioned above not least

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 11 December 2008 14:28 (seventeen years ago)

i dont think ive ever met anyone who meant this literally; i always assumed it was a sort of funny thing to say, funny, or "funny," at least in part because it would be pretty ridiculous to actually take that kind of attitude to life. not that it would surprise me to learn that there are people who say this seriously.

beyonc'e (max), Thursday, 11 December 2008 14:28 (seventeen years ago)

it's used in a funny way when it's about seconds

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 11 December 2008 14:31 (seventeen years ago)

People are expression irritation that they paid money for something they didn't enjoy. This isn't really rocket science.

Ca-hoot na na na oh oh (HI DERE), Thursday, 11 December 2008 14:34 (seventeen years ago)

A couple additional points:

1. Whenever I hear someone say this, I always wonder how they would've spent their time differently if they'd somehow known that the movie wasn't worth seeing.

2. Very rarely do I dislike a movie completely out of proportion from my expectations. It does happen from time to time (Transamerica is a good example), but I generally tend to avoid movies that I know I'll dislike right off the bat. (Or else if I do see them, I know what I'm getting myself into.)

jaymc, Thursday, 11 December 2008 14:35 (seventeen years ago)

people who say this need to consider investing their time in reading reviews, finding movie critics they agree with, etc. sure, they may want the 15 minutes per week they spend on this activity back, but isn't that better than wanting a whole two hours of their life back?

n/a is just more of a character....in a genre polluted by clones (n/a), Thursday, 11 December 2008 14:37 (seventeen years ago)

I always wonder how they would've spent their time differently if they'd somehow known that the movie wasn't worth seeing.

Watching a better movie is my guess.

dj onimotian (onimo), Thursday, 11 December 2008 14:37 (seventeen years ago)

you guys know a lot of people who are totally serious when they say this???

beyonc'e (max), Thursday, 11 December 2008 14:38 (seventeen years ago)

People are expression irritation that they paid money for something they didn't enjoy.

Phrasing it in terms of money ("I want those $10 back") actually bothers me much less, for some reason.

jaymc, Thursday, 11 December 2008 14:38 (seventeen years ago)

I felt this way about Vertigo. I could only watch the first hour. I watched the second half about a week later. I'm glad I did, it kicks off!

NotEnough, Thursday, 11 December 2008 14:45 (seventeen years ago)

I was tempted to write a personal note to Kim Basinger to get my money back for 'Boxing Helena' - it was my own fault really. Weirdly there's the forgiving sci-fi fan in me that can recall book basis/writing talent when it comes to Costner's Postman and Waterworld - so - I wasn't as mad (kinda liked Waterworld).

BlackIronPrison, Thursday, 11 December 2008 14:48 (seventeen years ago)

Maybe it's a roundabout way of wishing you could turn back time and remove the memory of having seen a terrible movie/show/play from your brain, thus alleviating the pain of reliving the terrible experience, ie I want the one minute I spent reading this thread back.

atty at LOL (Jenny), Thursday, 11 December 2008 14:53 (seventeen years ago)

(j/k ILU John!)

atty at LOL (Jenny), Thursday, 11 December 2008 14:53 (seventeen years ago)

dude this is just a way of saying that something was really shitty

Tanganyika laughter epidemic (gbx), Thursday, 11 December 2008 14:59 (seventeen years ago)

ie I want the one minute I spent reading this thread back.

Beat me to it

The Biggest Event In The History Of Ethnic Comedy (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:00 (seventeen years ago)

one minute is nowhere near enough the time needed to absorb the subtle undercurrents and subtexts of this thread - i recommend further study before you post again

n/a is just more of a character....in a genre polluted by clones (n/a), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:03 (seventeen years ago)

dude this is just a way of saying that something was really shitty

nono this is a LIFESTYLE and it must be STOPPED

Ca-hoot na na na oh oh (HI DERE), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:04 (seventeen years ago)

it's just a way of saying that something was really shitty, but it's a retarded way of saying it with lame connotations of entitlement

n/a is just more of a character....in a genre polluted by clones (n/a), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:06 (seventeen years ago)

c/d people who get really worked up about threads that overanalyze common turns of expression but have somehow managed to post continuously to ILX for five+ years without having an aneurysm

n/a is just more of a character....in a genre polluted by clones (n/a), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:09 (seventeen years ago)

^^^ the real heros

n/a is just more of a character....in a genre polluted by clones (n/a), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:09 (seventeen years ago)

Really, how dare someone pay for entertainment and expect to be entertained. What shocking entitlement!

Ca-hoot na na na oh oh (HI DERE), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:11 (seventeen years ago)

uh the connotations of entitlement here are related to time (i want those two hours of my life back), not money ... the idea being that someone's time is so valuable that they deserve to be compensated for wasting that time in seeing a shitty movie instead of a quality movie

n/a is just more of a character....in a genre polluted by clones (n/a), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:15 (seventeen years ago)

yeah but time IS money

Tanganyika laughter epidemic (gbx), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:15 (seventeen years ago)

or didn't you get the memo!

Tanganyika laughter epidemic (gbx), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:15 (seventeen years ago)

it's just a way of saying that something was really shitty, but it's a retarded way of saying it with lame connotations of entitlement

Those connotations of entitlement really depend on who the speaker wants those “two hours of life back” from. They might realize they did this to themselves, by not choosing a more fulfilling way to spend two hours.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:15 (seventeen years ago)

the magic length of god (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:16 (seventeen years ago)

It's called HYPERBOLE.

Jesse, Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:16 (seventeen years ago)

Movies are a dodgy way to spend time and money. Might as well buy some scratch-offs.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:16 (seventeen years ago)

It's ok to say this about movies that seem worthwhile until they fuck up the ending, demonstrating that the previous two hours have, in fact, been wasted.

caek, Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:16 (seventeen years ago)

like if you're thomas edison, maybe you shouldn't have allotted two hours of your time to check out "high school musical 3" that you could have spent electrocuting elephants in the name of science

n/a is just more of a character....in a genre polluted by clones (n/a), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:16 (seventeen years ago)

Rly I think of this as being about things that you were somehow obligated to do but didn't enjoy. Like...the bonds of friendship obligated you to go to a friend's friend's birthday drinks where you didn't know anyone, or...the person you date really wanted to a see a certain movie and you hated it...that kind of thing. IE acknowledging that you COULD have gotten out of it if you absolutely HAD to, but circumstances/politeness required you to waste your time.

One Community Service Mummy, hold the Straightedge Merman (Laurel), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:16 (seventeen years ago)

Other such statements might include, "I wish I had spent those two hours getting a root canal w/out anaesthesia instead!!!1" xxxxp

Jesse, Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:18 (seventeen years ago)

They might realize they did this to themselves, by not choosing a more fulfilling way to spend two hours.

I think this idea is very key here.

One Community Service Mummy, hold the Straightedge Merman (Laurel), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:18 (seventeen years ago)

electrocuting elephants in the name of science

?

kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:18 (seventeen years ago)

should this turn of phrase be reserved for the wrongly imprisoned who want to be compensated for the length of their sentence then?

the magic length of god (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:19 (seventeen years ago)

no one goes to jail for two hours

Tanganyika laughter epidemic (gbx), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:20 (seventeen years ago)

....unless they just saw WANTED, which is LIKE going to jail!!!!!!!!! LOLOLOL

Tanganyika laughter epidemic (gbx), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:20 (seventeen years ago)

Surely they could have chosen a more fulfilling life than one of crime? Actually, elmo, I'm not sure where you're going with this...?

I think the phrase is a joking self-condemnation, even a little wry. If it were used in all seriousness by someone who wasn't directing any of it at themselves/meaning to be funny, I might find it more hateable. As jaymc does.

One Community Service Mummy, hold the Straightedge Merman (Laurel), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:21 (seventeen years ago)

you can go to prison for 2 hrs if you are a celebutante???

the magic length of god (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:22 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2008/01/dayintech_0104

n/a is just more of a character....in a genre polluted by clones (n/a), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:23 (seventeen years ago)

I want those two minutes of my life back

and whataburger (gabbneb), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:23 (seventeen years ago)

you can go to prison for 2 hours if 2 hours after you got to prison someone stabbed you with a shiv and then you would no longer be in prison, you'd be dead

Mr. Que, Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:23 (seventeen years ago)

n/a dropping science

In order to make sure that Topsy emerged from this spectacle more than just singed and angry, she was fed cyanide-laced carrots moments before a 6,600-volt AC charge slammed through her body. Officials needn't have worried. Topsy was killed instantly and Edison, in his mind anyway, had proved his point.

Mr. Que, Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:24 (seventeen years ago)

what if you went to purgatory after that, tho, that'd be like being in prison

Tanganyika laughter epidemic (gbx), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:24 (seventeen years ago)

if ur body is still in prison rnt u still in prison even if ur dead???

beyonc'e (max), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:24 (seventeen years ago)

^^^^ philosophy

beyonc'e (max), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:24 (seventeen years ago)

they could have at least gotten an elephant with a less endearing name :(

Tanganyika laughter epidemic (gbx), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:24 (seventeen years ago)

rip topsy :(

Tanganyika laughter epidemic (gbx), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:25 (seventeen years ago)

you can also go to prison for 2 hours if you go to 120 Minute Celebutante Prison

and whataburger (gabbneb), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:25 (seventeen years ago)

no, i mean, i hate this expression too, i just think it's a completely artless, played out way of saying that something wasted your time

i am more bothered by the fact that people learn how to talk like this from sitcoms and shit TV than the particular phraseology

the magic length of god (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:25 (seventeen years ago)

i am bothered by the people who say this, when they say it

and whataburger (gabbneb), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:26 (seventeen years ago)

It's a perfectly reasonable thing to say that's been worn out by overuse.

caek, Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:26 (seventeen years ago)

i don't take it literally, i just make a mental note that you are a complete dull-wit and proceed accordingly

the magic length of god (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:27 (seventeen years ago)

i offer people a cyanide laced carrot when they do this

Mr. Que, Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:28 (seventeen years ago)

*rings the authorities*

and whataburger (gabbneb), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:29 (seventeen years ago)

I agree that it's played out. But it is probably on its way from being "clever" to being a figure of speech.

Jesse, Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:29 (seventeen years ago)

i classify this along the lines of

"it's like $REFERENCE... on crack!"

or

metaphors of morbid fascination involving vehicles in crisis

the magic length of god (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:30 (seventeen years ago)

i decided that the phrase 'played out' was played out when, after playing out with my band, i saw it overused on the ILX message board

and whataburger (gabbneb), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:31 (seventeen years ago)

what if someone had just shown you a pivotal scene from the fugitive, tho, and you decided that you didn't like it one bit, and were struggling for a metaphor

Tanganyika laughter epidemic (gbx), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:32 (seventeen years ago)

lol

the magic length of god (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:34 (seventeen years ago)

they could have at least gotten an elephant with a less endearing name :(

They drowned Violent Drunken Asshole the Elephant the following week, but it was old news by then.

atty at LOL (Jenny), Thursday, 11 December 2008 16:04 (seventeen years ago)

LOL

Jesse, Thursday, 11 December 2008 16:06 (seventeen years ago)

I wish I could duplicate the last 15 seconds of my life that I spent LOLing and relive them over and over.

Jesse, Thursday, 11 December 2008 16:06 (seventeen years ago)

aren't most movies ~90 min anyway

Your original display name will be displayed in brackets. (dan m), Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:09 (seventeen years ago)

you'll want to get there early enough to get a good seat, that place fills up fast

n/a is just more of a character....in a genre polluted by clones (n/a), Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:10 (seventeen years ago)

jaymc would you feel the same about someone who said this after watching their pro sports team play like crap/blow a huge lead/etc?

Granny Dainger, Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:15 (seventeen years ago)

aren't most movies ~90 min anyway

Woody Allen movies maybe.

jaymc, Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:16 (seventeen years ago)

this is almost as bad as the salting foods thread

La Lechera, Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:17 (seventeen years ago)

give it time, I'm sure more people will post their opinions and it'll get saltier in here

Your original display name will be displayed in brackets. (dan m), Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:26 (seventeen years ago)

The big reason is probably that it seems to imply that art owes you something, which I disagree with.

you're overintellectualising or maybe just trying to intellectualise: it is simply a rubbish thing to say

conrad, Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:31 (seventeen years ago)

the more I think about it (ow) the more it seems obvious that this kind of thing is why the lord gave us booing

Your original display name will be displayed in brackets. (dan m), Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:35 (seventeen years ago)

jaymc would you feel the same about someone who said this after watching their pro sports team play like crap/blow a huge lead/etc?

This is a good question, and I'm not sure. There's certainly no way you can predict something like that will happen, but you also have to know that it's a possibility. (Then again, I personally don't find a whole lot of value in watching sporting events from beginning to end, so I am perhaps the wrong person to ask.)

jaymc, Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:38 (seventeen years ago)

well it doesn't make much sense to watch them from end to beginning, I've found.
Yes you know it's a possibility, but should that invalidate being upset by shoddy performance(s)?

Granny Dainger, Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:42 (seventeen years ago)

wow this thread is aspie central

Matt P, Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:44 (seventeen years ago)

i am in favor of more booing in all contexts
-press conferences
-classrooms
-movies
-other

La Lechera, Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:48 (seventeen years ago)

this is just a joke that was funny maybe the first time and everyone thought they could work it into their conversational joke repertoire, like "i could tell you but i'd have to kill you ;)"

s1ocki, Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:50 (seventeen years ago)

don't get me started

Mr. Que, Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:53 (seventeen years ago)

GD, of course it shouldn't invalidate being upset. I'm enough of a Cubs fan to know that much. There are two questions that are more to the point, though: 1) Was it a waste of time? (I don't know. Do you always only want to see your team win?) And 2) Does a slumping athlete owe you for your faithful fandom? (My guess is probably not, unless they're being paid to play poorly.)

jaymc, Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:53 (seventeen years ago)

guys this is about the immutable passage of time and regrets about time poorly spent, it's not about anybody owing anything to anyone

the magic length of god (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:55 (seventeen years ago)

Also, even if I'm not enjoying myself at the time, I'm ultimately thankful for bad experiences with art as much as good ones for contributing to the refinement of my taste.

i kind of agree with this now. actually i kind of agree with you in general jaymc, but there's a part of me that does feel this way after certain shows. i believe art does owe you a little something, no matter how negligible that obligation may be.

Surmounter, Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:55 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.opendemocracy.net/content/articles/3122/images/proust_565.jpg

Mr. Que, Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:57 (seventeen years ago)

Umm I'd guess that one of many reasons people often phrase it this way -- apart from it just being a common expression -- is that they start hating the film within the first forty-five minutes and then spend over an hour sitting there thinking "oh god please just END so we can get the hell out of here" and silently dwelling on better things they could be doing, like running errands, enjoying hobbies, or having sex with the person they're on a date with but can't talk to because they're in a theater.

The money's not the issue so much as the disappointment of having gotten ready, ordered tickets, eaten meals at weird times so as not to be late, rushed over to the theater, gone through the whole seat-choosing rigamarole, sat through 40 minutes of preview material, etc., so that in the end you may have devoted an afternoon's worth of attention, planning, time, and mild hassle to seeing a movie that you wound up hating.

nabisco, Thursday, 11 December 2008 19:00 (seventeen years ago)

I suspect that s1ocki is probably OTM, although I am oddly fascinated by the process of how xontext-specific jokes and expressions seep into common usage without anyone remembering where they originated, or even giving it any thought whatsoever.

jaymc, Thursday, 11 December 2008 19:01 (seventeen years ago)

(Context, not xontext.)

jaymc, Thursday, 11 December 2008 19:01 (seventeen years ago)

yeah but nabisco if you hate a movie that much why wouldn't you just leave?

Mr. Que, Thursday, 11 December 2008 19:01 (seventeen years ago)

P.S. J, the thread is not titled "that movie owes me two hours of my life back," it's just about wanting them back, something people say after pretty much any endeavor that turns out not to accomplish their goals -- cf the post-breakup "I wasted X years of my life on that person," as if you were only spending time with them for eventual marriage purposes and not because it was satisfying in itself

nabisco, Thursday, 11 December 2008 19:02 (seventeen years ago)

"i could tell you but i'd have to kill you ;)"

there is some serious societal pressure to laugh at this, I guess because it would only make things more awkward not to.

bnw, Thursday, 11 December 2008 19:02 (seventeen years ago)

because that would be letting the movie win xxp

Your original display name will be displayed in brackets. (dan m), Thursday, 11 December 2008 19:03 (seventeen years ago)

Mr. Que, most people go to movies with other people. This makes it a lot harder to leave, because you can't really have the discussion necessary to confirm everyone involved is ready to walk out. Also most people just do not walk out of movies anyway.

nabisco, Thursday, 11 December 2008 19:04 (seventeen years ago)

right and i'm saying, if a movie is bad enough, you should just make a decision together to walk out

Mr. Que, Thursday, 11 December 2008 19:05 (seventeen years ago)

shut up you guys i'm watching this

goole, Thursday, 11 December 2008 19:07 (seventeen years ago)

1) Was it a waste of time? (I don't know. Do you always only want to see your team win?)

No but I always want them to put forth a good effort, not make silly mental mistakes, not blow huge leads, etc. (example that springs to mind is me going to Bulls game the other year--I only go to one or two games per year due to the cost, so each one means a lot to me--and they blew it at the end by, first, dude trying to showboat and grab a rebound with one hand. it went out of bounds. and, second, dudes not looking while inbounding and consequently the ball was thrown at back of dude's head. it went out of bounds. I didn't say this thread's title afterwards, but I surely thought it)

Granny Dainger, Thursday, 11 December 2008 19:10 (seventeen years ago)

Maybe I am peculiarly forgiving or tolerant, but I very rarely hate movies so much that I ever think about what I could be doing instead of watching them. Sometimes I'll get a little bored and distractedly think about stuff outside the movie, but I usually want to like what I'm watching, so I'll stick with it. And in the end, I'm glad that I saw movies like The Dark Knight or The Fellowship of the Ring, just to confirm that they're Not My Thing. On the other hand, I happen to think of movie-watching as a Productive Activity, a view that's probably not universally shared.

jaymc, Thursday, 11 December 2008 19:11 (seventeen years ago)

I only go to one or two games per year due to the cost, so each one means a lot to me

So did you feel like you wasted your time or your money?

jaymc, Thursday, 11 December 2008 19:12 (seventeen years ago)

xpost - Right and I'm saying, when you're sitting next to one or more people in a theater (where you're not supposed to talk), it often does not seem feasible to start a complex discussion about whether everyone is prepared to walk out.

The only way I've ever seen it work is when you're only with one other person, and it takes at least 20 minutes of both people clearly conveying their disgust to one another via facial expressions before you can start having the hand-signal discussion about leaving, and that's only if you're the sort of people who are used to walking out on movies in the first place. And I don't think I've ever gone to a movie with one other person that was horrible, because if there's only two of you you're probably going to pick something both of you will enjoy!

NB I never walk out on movies, and feel the same way as J most of the time -- I find bad movies funny/interesting and want to see where they go, I don't have high standards, etc.* -- but I have gone with groups of people to see movies I wish I hadn't wasted time on, and what am I gonna do, walk out and sit in the lobby until everyone else finishes and we go out for drinks?

* = for proof of this see Master and Commander thread -- I thought that movie was the worst thing in the universe and I was the only one in the theater but it's not like I was gonna leave

nabisco, Thursday, 11 December 2008 19:15 (seventeen years ago)

yeah i don't have high standards either. but i think if a movie is bad enough (and i'm talking really really ultra-bad) it would be simple to have a quick conversation about it, i.e.

"Do you want to get out of here? I have a hot tub, let's go to my place and french," etc etc

Mr. Que, Thursday, 11 December 2008 19:18 (seventeen years ago)

I should have walked out on that Philip K Dick movie with the bad animation but I went with a boyfriend who liked it more than I did.

I would like that whole summer back, please. To do over.

One Community Service Mummy, hold the Straightedge Merman (Laurel), Thursday, 11 December 2008 19:18 (seventeen years ago)

j, the money, i guess. i still enjoyed myself up til the very end when the boneheadedness began. but if i were watching on tv and that happened, it'd be the time.

Granny Dainger, Thursday, 11 December 2008 19:26 (seventeen years ago)

I'm a fan of that rotoscoped animation, but I don't think Linklater's found a feature worthy of it yet.

jaymc, Thursday, 11 December 2008 19:28 (seventeen years ago)

Sunk cost bias keeps people in their seats even when the movie is really bad. Superbad, if you will.

atty at LOL (Jenny), Thursday, 11 December 2008 19:30 (seventeen years ago)

lol

Your original display name will be displayed in brackets. (dan m), Thursday, 11 December 2008 19:30 (seventeen years ago)

I'm ultimately thankful for bad experiences with art as much as good ones for contributing to the refinement of my taste.

If you mean this statement literally and take it to its logical conclusion, wouldn't that mean that you shouldn't seek out "good" music/movies/etc. at all and pretty much consume art randomly with no regard to your own taste? I mean, isn't the very existence of "taste" predicated on preferring to spend one's time with one sort of art rather than another? Maybe I'm overthinking this...

i fuck mathematics, Thursday, 11 December 2008 19:33 (seventeen years ago)

No, I mean, I'd definitely rather seek out stuff I have a feeling I will like, since I do want to maximize my pleasure. I'm just saying there can be something useful and valuable about having those kinds of viscerally negative experiences. For one thing, it helps you appreciate and articulate what's good about good art.

jaymc, Thursday, 11 December 2008 19:39 (seventeen years ago)

xp On ILX? That's unpossible.

One Community Service Mummy, hold the Straightedge Merman (Laurel), Thursday, 11 December 2008 19:39 (seventeen years ago)

Ha Mr. Que, we must live in completely different social dimensions, cause if I'm with (e.g.) four people who have all decided to see X film, no way is it not going to be prohibitively ass-painy to try and silently create a quorum for leaving. I wish I had your talent, and a job as an arbitrator, or a guy who orders pizza for small groups of picky people, or the head of a book club's selection committee.

nabisco, Thursday, 11 December 2008 19:41 (seventeen years ago)

nabisco, are you incapable of whispering in someone's ear?

Ca-hoot na na na oh oh (HI DERE), Thursday, 11 December 2008 19:42 (seventeen years ago)

*whisper* "I'm hating this. Do you want to leave?"
If yes: "ask so-and-so if they want to leave"

repeat as necessary

Ca-hoot na na na oh oh (HI DERE), Thursday, 11 December 2008 19:43 (seventeen years ago)

"guys this movie sucks, wanna leave?"

Mr. Que, Thursday, 11 December 2008 19:44 (seventeen years ago)

xpost excatly

Mr. Que, Thursday, 11 December 2008 19:44 (seventeen years ago)

I do like the idea of nabisco taking semaphore flags to the movies in case he needs to ask one of his companions a question, though.

Ca-hoot na na na oh oh (HI DERE), Thursday, 11 December 2008 19:46 (seventeen years ago)

and it gave us the phrase "prohibitively ass-painy", so it's good with me

Mr. Que, Thursday, 11 December 2008 19:47 (seventeen years ago)

Every day after work:

I want those eight hours of my life back.

UEK - Big Tempin' (Oilyrags), Thursday, 11 December 2008 19:48 (seventeen years ago)

a guy who orders pizza for small groups of picky people

FINALLY FOUND MY LIFE CALLING, THANKING YOU MR NABISCO

Granny Dainger, Thursday, 11 December 2008 19:48 (seventeen years ago)

Do you seriously want me to explain this?

- I am not a big social planner, so if I go to a movie with four people, it's usually because someone else really wanted to see that movie, and I am just going along socially, so I'm not going to presume that my hating it is shared by the rest of the group

- Most people do not make a habit of walking out on movies. If I'm on the end of a row of four and whisper to the person next to me that I think it's awful and want to leave, he/she is likely to go "oh, I'm sorry, it'll be over soon"

- On the off chance that he/she passes it down to the next person, that person might lean over and look at me and go "oh, are you really hating this? I dunno, do you want to go do X instead?" And now a whole decision-making whisper-fest is beginning

- After a period of whispering, word will come back to me that the person on the other end of the row, who originally suggested this movie, is enjoying it and is butt-hurt that I want to leave and doesn't understand why I'm being a pain in the ass about it when it's only a movie

- Person three might start whispering back down to me that maybe the two of us could leave and go do something else and meet up with the others later

- Person two then might start asking what we're going to go do, because if we're doing X, he/she would rather do that than stay at the movie, but if we're doing Y, then he/she is fine just staying at the movie, because he/she doesn't like Y

- Meanwhile person four is getting increasingly butt-hurt and is all like "fine, whatever, you guys just leave so I can at least watch the rest of this in peace"

- But now we can't leave until we decide what else we're doing, because person two needs to make a decision about whether he/she is going or not

- ETC ETC -- this is the same pain-in-the-ass small-group decision-making stuff that goes on when ordering pizza or deciding what restaurant to go to or any other bit of mundane organizational junk, I'm quite sure you guys are familiar with what I'm talking about!

nabisco, Thursday, 11 December 2008 19:59 (seventeen years ago)

nabisco yr employer wants however long it took you to fucking type that back

Tanganyika laughter epidemic (gbx), Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:00 (seventeen years ago)

Wow.

One Community Service Mummy, hold the Straightedge Merman (Laurel), Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:00 (seventeen years ago)

and that's why i only go to the movies with one person at a time

Mr. Que, Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:01 (seventeen years ago)

I understand the social comfort of wanting a plan that makes/keeps everyone happy, so I don't find that laborious dialogue COMPLETELY indefensible, but about halfway through I would have said "Whatever, I'll be in the lobby/this is what cell phones are for. Call me."

One Community Service Mummy, hold the Straightedge Merman (Laurel), Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:03 (seventeen years ago)

And like I said before, it's much rarer to want to walk out of a movie you went to with only one person, because you both have some pre-existing interest in it! I have only ONCE thought about leaving a movie that I was only at with one other person, and I did a whole lot of looking at my watch and sighing, which mostly made her chuckle at me, so obviously we stayed.

nabisco, Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:03 (seventeen years ago)

and that's why i only go to the movies with one person at a time

Ditto. Or by myself.

jaymc, Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:04 (seventeen years ago)

this is why I just don't go to movies

Your original display name will be displayed in brackets. (dan m), Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:05 (seventeen years ago)

Laurel, my fear in that situation would be that either (a) I will then be killing time for an hour while everyone else finishes the movie, or (b) I will just go home and wind up being "that freak we went out with who just disappeared midway through the movie."

nabisco, Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:05 (seventeen years ago)

basically, nabisco prefers not to be a dick.

Mr. ¿Qué (gabbneb), Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:05 (seventeen years ago)

You cannot tell me that you go anywhere without a book, Nabisco. That and a bench/bar will solve all your "killing time" needs.

One Community Service Mummy, hold the Straightedge Merman (Laurel), Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:07 (seventeen years ago)

I go to movies alone 98% of the time, and if I've paid I'm gonna sit there and suffer to the end. (see Alvy Singer's bad food/small portions joke)

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:07 (seventeen years ago)

lol nabisco

I have only ever wanted to walk out of one movie ("Rent") but I was the only one of the group of 6 who really hated it.

Ca-hoot na na na oh oh (HI DERE), Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:08 (seventeen years ago)

I mean, I couldn't even assuage myself with looking at Rosario Dawson in hotpants and fishnets, it was so bad.

Ca-hoot na na na oh oh (HI DERE), Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:09 (seventeen years ago)

did you try masturbating?

Mr. Que, Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:09 (seventeen years ago)

you should have danced out.

s1ocki, Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:10 (seventeen years ago)

I mean, when you go to a movie with one person, you've both agreed that you're interested, talked about it, both have the same expectations for what it is -- it's so unlikely that you're going to find it walk-out horrible.

xpost - Laurel, this is just me and just social, but it's going to take a torturously bad movie for me to be the guy who leaves and reads a book for an hour and meets everyone later. I have seen maybe three movies in my life I felt a desire to leave, so I'm not going to be too anti-social over a run-of-the-mill stinker

This:

only one of the group of 6 who really hated it

exactly -- walk-out hate is a personal emotion, rarely a group one

nabisco, Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:11 (seventeen years ago)

did you try masturbating?

sadly, not an option

s1ocki is onto something, I think

Ca-hoot na na na oh oh (HI DERE), Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:14 (seventeen years ago)

Audiences make me want to leave more often than movies do.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:15 (seventeen years ago)

^^^^^ totally unsurprising

Tanganyika laughter epidemic (gbx), Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:15 (seventeen years ago)

P.S. - do those of you who occasionally walk out of movies always pick aisle seats, or something? Cause I am not making people let me out mid-movie unless the alternative is soiling myself

nabisco, Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:21 (seventeen years ago)

xp: since ppl yak and act out all the fucking time, yes, UNSURPRISING.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:21 (seventeen years ago)

the only time i've ever walked out of a movie, it weirdly did become a group walk-out. (it was The Avengers, the remake with Sean Connery + Uma Thurman + Ralph Fiennes.)

i wanted to walk out of Moulin Rouge but my sister wouldn't let me. those are the only times i've wanted to, i think?

horseshoe, Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:23 (seventeen years ago)

Wow: I have a hard time imagining The Avengers was aggressively awful -- was it just a "this is silly, I have better things to do with my time" walk-out?

nabisco, Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:25 (seventeen years ago)

Man I have seen so many movies where I was the only person enjoying myself ("The Avengers", "The Cell", "Catwoman", "Ultraviolet")

Ca-hoot na na na oh oh (HI DERE), Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:25 (seventeen years ago)

Haha those all include a decent amount of CGI, don't they

(I saw The Cell in a theater and enjoyed the hell out of it!)

nabisco, Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:26 (seventeen years ago)

i walked out of 'wing commander' and then walked into 'the rage: carrie 2'

omar little, Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:27 (seventeen years ago)

wau hardcore

Ca-hoot na na na oh oh (HI DERE), Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:27 (seventeen years ago)

yeah, i'm trying to figure out why that walkout even happened...i think a bunch of friends only had a night to hang out and we all collectively decided we did not have time to waste watching a movie none of us liked? we ended up spending all night at some diner, i think?

it was really bad, but i think i was also watching it all wrong, like i wanted it to make sense and have a plot and not be boring.

horseshoe, Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:28 (seventeen years ago)

Yes, you were watching it it all wrong!

Ca-hoot na na na oh oh (HI DERE), Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:29 (seventeen years ago)

wow this thread is aspie central

― Matt P, Thursday, December 11, 2008 1:44 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Emergency Rainbow (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:29 (seventeen years ago)

ha Dan, i was a humorless teenager!

xpost :(

horseshoe, Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:29 (seventeen years ago)

I once was hanging out with a group of co-workers at someone's apartment, and the hostess thought it would be a good idea to rent a movie from the Blockbuster across the street. So for some reason we rented Titus (the Julie Taymor film), and it wasn't until after the movie was over that we discovered that nobody in the room liked it but we were all too polite to say anything about it at the time.

jaymc, Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:34 (seventeen years ago)

see this is what i'm talking about^^^^^^^^^^^

Mr. Que, Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:35 (seventeen years ago)

that's how lives slip away people. carpe diem! sieze the day! speak out against bad movies, no matter where you live!

Mr. Que, Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:35 (seventeen years ago)

that sounds like the worst party ever

omar little, Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:35 (seventeen years ago)

I was at a holiday party last year where the host made us watch an instructional DVD made by his recently-deceased aikido sensei.

Ca-hoot na na na oh oh (HI DERE), Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:38 (seventeen years ago)

so I'm thinking maybe I win

Ca-hoot na na na oh oh (HI DERE), Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:38 (seventeen years ago)

i went to some party that some dude was throwing at his parents' house (they were out of town for the weekend!!) and i walked in and it was 18 guys silently watching jackass

omar little, Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:39 (seventeen years ago)

the only time ive ever walked out a movie it was w/ a group, and we just walked into some other movie. i think we left that australian torture porn movie and went to the lindsay lohan luck movie

beyonc'e (max), Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:40 (seventeen years ago)

"Wolf Creek"? I wouldn't have walked into that movie!

Ca-hoot na na na oh oh (HI DERE), Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:41 (seventeen years ago)

lindsay lohan luck movie

I misread this.

jaymc, Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:41 (seventeen years ago)

Man, if only cinemas had bars. "psst, this sucks...I'll be in the bar, find me when you're done..."

WmC, Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:46 (seventeen years ago)

The place we go to has a bar!

Ca-hoot na na na oh oh (HI DERE), Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:48 (seventeen years ago)

You know how they say that in Michigan/Minnesota/etc you're never more than 10 miles from open water? In New York, you're never more than 5 blocks from someplace you can get a drink.

One Community Service Mummy, hold the Straightedge Merman (Laurel), Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:50 (seventeen years ago)

Woody Allen said it more emphatically: "If I had to live my life again, I'd do everything the same, except that I wouldn't see The Magus."

He should have known it'd be a bad film though; it's got Michael Caine in it (I don't think it's even the worst film Michael Caine has been in).

Bob Six, Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:53 (seventeen years ago)

"The novelist Kingsley Amis was once asked what he would do differently if he could live his whole life over again. He paused for a few seconds before replying 'well I wouldn't read The Magus'"

ledge, Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:57 (seventeen years ago)

Results 1 - 7 of 7 for "I wouldn't see The Magus"
Results 1 - 4 of 4 for "I wouldn't read The Magus"

ledge, Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:57 (seventeen years ago)

Are you all serious? We publish that linebacker of a book. I read it. Does it actually not make any sense and I wasn't just too dumb/not literary enough to "get" it?

One Community Service Mummy, hold the Straightedge Merman (Laurel), Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:58 (seventeen years ago)

randy quaid once said if he could live his life over again, he wouldn't have seen the magus.

s1ocki, Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:00 (seventeen years ago)

"Peter Sellers was once asked what he would do differently if he could live his life all over again. His response: 'I would do everything exactly the same, except I wouldn't see The Magus.'"

Read it once years ago, from my recollection it was some kind of bullshit. Tempted to read it again just out of perverse curiosity.

ledge, Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:02 (seventeen years ago)

Paris Hilton once said, "You know, my life is, like, I look back at it and go, 'That's hot.' I would totally do everything the same if I lived it again. Except I wouldn't see 'The Magus.'"

Ca-hoot na na na oh oh (HI DERE), Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:03 (seventeen years ago)

i went to some party that some dude was throwing at his parents' house (they were out of town for the weekend!!) and i walked in and it was 18 guys silently watching jackass

― omar little, Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:39 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

if anyone would watch jackass silently, i would guess Some Dude

ohhhh we pop champagne (deej), Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:04 (seventeen years ago)

hahaha

s1ocki, Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:12 (seventeen years ago)

that was Some Zing

s1ocki, Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:12 (seventeen years ago)

I would do everything the same, but I wouldn't dance about architecture.

jaymc, Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:19 (seventeen years ago)

OK I read this whole thread. And I'm surprised no one has mentioned this common variant: "That's two hours of my life I'll never get back."

You don't get any of it back, dude.

Last week I rented After Hours by Martin Scorcese. I defy anyone to actually watch that all the way through on DVD. In the cinema I can understand that peer pressure probably kept people in their seats but my Lord. After about an hour myself and the lovely Emma B realized that shouting "you IDIOT" at the screen is only fun for about that long.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:21 (seventeen years ago)

^^^ major rongness up there with nabisco on master & commander

s1ocki, Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:23 (seventeen years ago)

I attempted to watch "I Accidentally Domes Your Son" but turned it off maybe 20 minutes in. Some movies should only be watched with incredibl drunk friends.

Ca-hoot na na na oh oh (HI DERE), Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:24 (seventeen years ago)

I defy anyone to actually watch that all the way through on DVD.

I did this a year or two ago. I liked it!

jaymc, Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:24 (seventeen years ago)

"I want my two dollars!"

http://www.xenafan.com/movies/bod/images/johnny05.jpg

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:25 (seventeen years ago)

i have watched after hours several times and would again

penice (velko), Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:26 (seventeen years ago)

I think it's also like Alex in NYC's favorite movie of all time.

jaymc, Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:31 (seventeen years ago)

yes
RFI: Classical Music in Scorsese's "After Hours"

penice (velko), Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:32 (seventeen years ago)

we need him over here now

s1ocki, Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:32 (seventeen years ago)

My major problem, as you may have guessed, is that the main character is an idiot and very little that he does makes any sense. Which is a problem if you're supposed to be the everyman protagonist in a movie full of kooky weirdos.

It also really drove home how Scorcese just cannot write women's parts. Whatever fascination or investment I might have had evaporated when I realized every single woman was a different piece of Scorcese's well-polished collection of misogynist stereotypes.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:35 (seventeen years ago)

i saw reality bites with my dad and he walked out and walked in to ace ventura: pet detective

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:36 (seventeen years ago)

good call on his part frankly

beyonc'e (max), Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:36 (seventeen years ago)

Parts of After Hours are greater than the whole:

search: Rosanna Arquette; Teri Garr; John Heard
Destroy: the drawn out mistaken for a burglar plot

Bob Six, Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:37 (seventeen years ago)

probably yeah, but these days i would rather watch RB again, if only for "lol '90s/serious ben stiller is serious" value.

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:38 (seventeen years ago)

I like After Hours, mostly. It helps to think less about the guy's passively bad decision-making and think of it more as a comedy about how bad life was before ATMs and cellphones. The entire film is technologically unthinkable now. Plus Soho is dirty in it.

s1ocki, take it to the Master & Commander thread. I am tempted to watch that entire movie again just so I can argue with y'all about it again. That and Crash are probably most most-hated films of the past many years. Those and the mistakes of renting Petulia and Barefoot in the Park.

nabisco, Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:42 (seventeen years ago)

wait do you like M&C, i forget

Tanganyika laughter epidemic (gbx), Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:45 (seventeen years ago)

Tracer, Scorsese doesn't "write" many of his films at least not for credit.

However, see: Sandra Bernhard in The King of Comedy

The hours of my life I want back are currently spent hiking/riding to a decent supermarket/ eats from my nabe.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:45 (seventeen years ago)

yeah, after hours script was famously touted at the time for being the work of a film school student. scorsese was in a sort of lull at the time (coke?) and took it on because he could do it fast & cheap. sort of to "recharge" - at least that's how people talked about it at the time.

penice (velko), Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:48 (seventeen years ago)

scorsese de-coked pre raging bull from what i understand but yeah the narrative was that he was trying to go "indier" after NYNY/RB, hence king of comedy, after hours, life lessons, even last temptation

omar little, Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:51 (seventeen years ago)

I think Raging Bull was the post-coke film (xp). After Hours was made after Bull did weak box office (yes) and KofC barely got released.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:52 (seventeen years ago)

I need to watch The King of Comedy again.

Nicolars (Nicole), Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:55 (seventeen years ago)

king of comedy, after hours, life lessons, even last temptation

the two on the ends are my favorites; maybe i should see the others. tho i think i've tried with after hours and didn't get far as tracer says.

very very serious (gabbneb), Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:57 (seventeen years ago)

KoC is great

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:59 (seventeen years ago)

if i had those two hours of my life back, i would use them to watch king of comedy again

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Thursday, 11 December 2008 22:00 (seventeen years ago)

but if they were a different two hours then i would probably do something else

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Thursday, 11 December 2008 22:00 (seventeen years ago)

for people who don't read I Love Film/SNA: what was the last film you walked out of and why?

caek, Friday, 12 December 2008 00:51 (seventeen years ago)

yeah, after hours script was famously touted at the time for being the work of a film school student.

This might interest some fans of the film: The Scandalous Origins of Martin Scorsese’s After Hours

web sharif (jeff), Friday, 12 December 2008 00:57 (seventeen years ago)

i want two hours for reading this thread please ok

sam york, Friday, 12 December 2008 01:15 (seventeen years ago)

# what do you want for the christmas? [Started by Tracer Hand in December 2007, last updated 4 minutes ago by sam york] 23 new answers
# "I want those two hours of my life back!" [Started by jaymc in December 2008, last updated 9 minutes ago by sam york] 200 new answers

s1ocki, Friday, 12 December 2008 01:26 (seventeen years ago)

I once watched a whole episode of married w/ children with one of my old roomates because we both thought the other liked the show

cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 12 December 2008 01:31 (seventeen years ago)

"I wish I could have the next fifty years of my life back."
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0cg83o393JbDd/610x.jpg

ian, Friday, 12 December 2008 02:08 (seventeen years ago)

:/

what is my attitude (gbx), Friday, 12 December 2008 02:09 (seventeen years ago)

i kinda feel this way abt my 20s tbh

kuntrie/hardrock-tributes (goole), Friday, 12 December 2008 02:17 (seventeen years ago)

hey man at least your 20s only lasted two hours

beyonc'e (max), Friday, 12 December 2008 02:18 (seventeen years ago)

for most people theyre like 10 years

beyonc'e (max), Friday, 12 December 2008 02:18 (seventeen years ago)

i was under the impression the time on this was sort of elastic

kuntrie/hardrock-tributes (goole), Friday, 12 December 2008 02:19 (seventeen years ago)


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