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not the one you necessarily go in, but the very nearest pub to your house. what is it like?

i have 2 equidistant pubs.

1) Arsenal Tavern. yes, a football pub. yes, named after the area. 2 strikes against. been in once, place is falling down, is full of inbreds with mullets (scorpions 82 style). stopped off on a saturday night on the way out. empty. a couple in their 50s stood, in silence, drinking. nothing left to say to each other. like martin parr photography with colour removed

2) T-Birds. dingy bar, lock ins. ok, but like how you imagine some bar in Iowa or Alberta to be, y'know, that kind of twin peaks vibe going on. you can join in the lock in as long as you go drink at the bar with the regulars and staff. its not that bad actually.

gareth, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

We are pretty much equidistant between 2 pubs too -

1. The Shaftesbury which I have never been to. Pete might've been. It looks rough and I have no plans to go there in the near future if ever.

2. The Hogshead which despite being a chain pub is quite nice and good for spotting CE minor slebz. Also it is directly next to the Railway where they do a good quiz & are very friendly though they do not check signatures properly thereby aiding & abetting the north London crime wave & the fraudulent removal of my money from my bank account.

Emma, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

My nearest pub is The Fox. It has an eerie Fox head as its sign and an optimistic chalkboard saying "A FAMILY PUB" outside. It is huge and bricky. I've never been in it because it looks so unfriendly and because I don't know anyone in Barton so I've never had the need to meet there. It doesn't ever look like there's many people in it - from the windows the interior seems clean, empty but somehow ratty too.

Tom, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

horribly enough i have no idea what the nearest pub to my house is. in fact i have never seen any less than a tube journey away. oh, there is something called the bar med or something like that, but it looks like the worst thing ever.

in the past i guess it has always been college bars. pretty unexciting.

toby, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I've got 3 very near me. The Woodman is a fraud, they say they have football but when I went in there I couldn't see any evidence of this so I left. The Shepherd's is apparently home to Coldplay of an evening but I've never been there because it doesn't look very nice. The third is pleasant enough, they show the football, have a pool table, a modest quiz night and a landlady with the dirtiest laugh in London.

Jonnie, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

2 as well, one, The Grove you can see from our kitchen is a hole, go in there occasionally with flatmate who loves it, and thinks the sing- songs they have in there on a friday or Sunday night are fun, they're not, they are excruciatingly bad, awful even. The other is called the Windmill I went in there once over Euro 2000, everyone turned round to look at us but we went through to the back room and had a great time. Unfortunately since then we've heard rumours of it being somethinh of a national front hangout (it does have a whopping great St George's cross hanging outside) so we haven't been in since.

Fortunately the great Village pub is only 5 minutes away.

chris, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The pub i see from my window is 2 mins walk if that. It is a pretty straightforward Fullers pub at first glance, but there is a lot of dining room at the back. During the week it will have a thin sprinkle of locals in, maybe a dozen or more. But at the w/e it's bleddy packed, cos it's on the river. Worthy but dull.

A minute more along the river is the fancy family pub The City Barge where rumour has it Ant and/or Dec are semi-regulars. However it's popularity is a major drag, so what could be a nice place for a sunday lunch really drags out. plus they were v rude to a friend of mine (big row, money was thrown in faces, ect)

Alan Trewartha, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Jonnie, the Shepherd's is a great pub as it is the venue for BASH THE PEGG the Thursday night quiz attended by local sleb Simon Pegg. I have only been once and we failed miserably to bash him I'm afraid though the quizmistress lady thought Nick was a girl so that was funny. Ha ha.

Emma, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I want to bash the Pegg Jonnie!

chris, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The Standard Bearer, Goodmayes Road: It's a Wetherspoon pub. That should tell you all you need to know, surely.

DG, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

We got the curiously named 'Hero of Switzerland'. It looks like it's council owned. We daren't go in there. Full of men who have been there all day and women who are odd. It should be on a rough provincial estate. It isn't. Depply disturbing. Had to go in once to give my landladies mail to the landlord. Sometimes when there's work needed done on the house said landlady will fetch someone across from the pub. Our flat: repaired by drunk men.

Alix, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The HERO OF SWITZERLAND pretty much defines the ESTATE PUB. I have never been in, due to the FEAR. There is also the MUCKY DUCK by the train station which I've been in THREE! times! Once to meet AB and once with AC. Next I hope to go with someone with the intitials AD (but where will I find someone named Anno Domini at this time of night DOH). Going the other way from our flat, you hit the Loughborough Road boozer wot advertises Salsa Classes.

Sarah, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I've seen Simon Pegg in the off licence near the Shepherd's. Thanks for the information Emma, Thursday nights suddenly have a new attraction.

Jonnie, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The other time was by myself. Yes. I walked in and walked out. This counts.

Sarah, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The Red Lion, it looks kinda horrible. Never been in it. There is also one at the very end of my road, but I've forgotten the name. I don't go to pubs very often.

jel --, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ah yes, the salsa tavern. Shame we can't be bothered to go out to the pub of an evening really. Let's add that to your house criteria. Must be close to local pub with 1)beer garden and 2)newspapers.

Alix, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

This may mean a move to Camden to the Oxford Arms you know. I am sure there is something about that pub which must be bad and we just did not notice it - it's in CAMDEN for chrissakes yet still once inside it's welcoming arms this can be overlooked...

Sarah, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The closest to me is an awful next-to-the-station affair, it has wooden floors and looks quite decent. It used to be well rough, then they closed it for a year and had a refit. Now it has 'art' and internet, but is still full of nutters and alkies.

My proper local is the best in the world. It's small, quiet has kitsch decor and is run by two jolly gay blokes. Also has quiz machine. It was pub of the year in 1981 (according to the plaque outside!)

Simeon, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The Old Suffolk Punch on Green Lanes. A Wetherspoons so it has a lot of regulars who use it because the beer is cheap. I occasionally go in and have one beer near closing time.

David, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Closest pub to my flat is the Yorkshire Grey on the corner of Gray's Inn Road and Theobald's Road. I have *never* been in it. Ever. This is because it advertises a Blues Night.

Also just as close are 1) the Griffin on Clerkenwell Road which a number of Picnic In The Sky revellers borrowed for its toilet facilities unaware until entering that it was a STRIPPER PUB and 2) the Duke of York which is Ground Zero for couriers, has lovely landlords, good Guinness and a Thai couple stashed in the basement making good food for £5 a plate. I go there often enough and ILE has drunk there before.

On Farringdon Road, we have the Eagle, which I can't praise enough.

Every other pub in the area, especially the ones on Mount Pleasant, Leather Lane and Exmouth Market are ALL branches of that well-known chain the Halfwit and Banjo (translation: drinking holes for the inbred and infirm).

suzy, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I am not moving to Camden. Sorry. You know there is a pub in the houses to the back of our flat, over camberwell way. However, it looks as tempting as the Hero.

Alix, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Like Gareth, two equidistant pubs: the Marlborough House in my road and the Folly Bridge Inn around the corner. Although I've lived in my present house for six and a half years I haven't been in the Marlborough House more than five times, all of them to partcipate in quizzes and most of them when my team was playing the Marlborough Mutineers (as they're called) in the local quiz league. People say that they really know how to keep the beer at the Marlborough House (true). People also say that it has been altered structurally very little since it was built in 1883 (this is also true). However, that doesn't stop the place from giving me the creeps. It has such a dedicated clientele that I see the same old faces (almost always occupying the same seats) every time I walk past. It just seems more like a private club than a pub. It's a pity, coz the married couple who run it are really nice people who usually say hello when we pass in the street. I often see them in their boat on the Thames (a couple of hundred metres down the road). The bloke also has a bicycle repair business and if you know anything about Oxford you'll know that this is really appreciated!

The Folly Bridge Inn used to be called the White House. This was a more sensible name as it's quite a way from Folly Bridge. It used to be a lovely pub attracting stoodies and locals alike...it had a quiz on Tuesdays and a music quiz on Sundays. It is a Wadworth pub which used to mean there was FARMER'S GLORY on tap (num num!)....a much better ale than Wadworth 6X and very hard to find these days. Unfortunately, the popular landlord disappeared off to Winchester and since then they've had a serious of poor bar managers who really don't seem interested. Even when I turned up with a huge crowd of co- workers they didn't seem to want to serve us. Luckily I live within easy walking distance of the city centre and fairly easy walking distance of "alt. Oxford", ie Cowley Road, so the low quality of the local boozers is not a particularly big loss to me.

MarkH, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

David you surely should be going to the Sally (The Salisbury Hotel), which is big, a beautiful building, shows the football, has a strange Rugby-esque version of table football (both teams have fifteen players) and in the olden days they also used to have a busty bar wench called Emma.

Pete, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Sod off Pete. I kept my assets well covered when working in that den of vice & iniquity. Unless they have a new landlord I would not advise it as Eric the Austrian was EVIL and you can never get into the toilets since they are full of people shooting up.

It is a nice space though and it's a shame it's in such a shitty area.

Emma, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Alan - are you in Chiswick?

The Shepherd's - never been, but heard the story of when Coldplay bloke turned up for the quiz...with Gillian Anderson.

My local - Ye White Hart. This proudly boasts it's status as Wine Pub of the Year 1999 and 2000. However, when the Bull's Head, about 200 yards away, won the 2001 title, I began to suspect the geographical remit of this competition might not be as wide as they'd like you to believe.

dan, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

oh yes. i'm told it gets vvv crowded come the boat race (in 2 wks). As I may have said elsewhere, I have "issues" with the boat race, but I think i'm through that, so am determined to enjoy* the crowd. it's SOO quiet round where I live.

[*In the sexual sense]

Alan Trewartha, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Oh and I've been to the Shaftesbury and I thought it was quite nice (though dodgy pub singer spoiled the ambience. The people who live locally though live on the farside of the hill and are therefore generally unwilling to sample its joys. Mr & Mrs Carsmile on the other hand...

Pete, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The Nobody Inn (do you SEE? - dear God) It's yellow outside which is not an outside of pub colour. I've only been in once when I was looking for my housemate when I was locked out and needed keys. There are much nicer pubs in Crouch End and anyway ... I like bars *runs off"*

Anna, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

David, you should go in the Old Ale Emporium on Green Lanes. It's ace. They have nice toilet seats in the ladies. And that chap who was murdered last year was murdered right outside. It used to be my local, but only in theory.

Alix, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Regular readers will be astonished to know that Pete has just persuaded me to go to a (gasp) bar for my birthday drinks.

Tom, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The Nobody Inn is a bit crap (though they used to do a music quiz which I reckon we could have won) though it does stay open til 1pm. Most intreiguingly it has a portrait of Big Bird dressed as the Virgin Mary in it.

Have you ever been to ICE Anna?

Pete, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

closest bar to me is O'Connor's, which i think i've spilled enough ink on. let's just say I'm lucky.

what IS it though about the closest x to your house that is usually so unattractive?

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

closest bar to me is Bar Med which, being in St Ebbe's, is thankfully not that close.

Ever been to the pub in Risinghurst, Tom? Can't remember what it's called. Or any of the ones in Quarry (Six Bells, Masons Arms or Chequers?)

MarkH, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The Nobody Inn is only open till 1pm? It's worse than SOAS bar which closes at 8:30pm!

Emma, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I haven't Pete. I don't often go out in Crouch End unless someone's staying at my house. I don't really think I could fill the conversational vacumns that would occur drinking with my housemates and other nearby friends live in places with nice pubs, so I go out by them or in the centre of town.

Anna, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I think Pete is kidding Anna as Ice is this incredibly bad wannabe Brixton-stylee bar which is trying to make the thirtysomething parents & twentysomething newlyweds of Crouch End feel young & groovy again. It fails miserably. However the cocktails aren't bad.

Emma, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I will never trust Pete EVER again. (why have I not learned yet?)

You can tell I don't go out in CE can't you?

Anna, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

On the (AWFUL) advert for the Observer's Bar Guide the bloke goes into O's Bar which is also in Crouch End. It looks appalling. If the Observer Bar Guide is recommending places of this calibre then frankly it is not worth bothering with.

Emma, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Where have I been? Barbarella (although not strictly a bar); The Kings Something and another pub I don't remember the name of.

Anna, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

isnt there a Nobody Inn at Newington Green too?

gareth, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The King's Arms isn't great and has gone downhill since its refurb. Also it is one of the evil CE pubs that cashed my stolen cheques despite the really really terrible forgery of my signature. However there are worse places.

Emma, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Nearest bar to me is the terribly hip 21. Jahrhundert, which has terrible service, a terribly inconsistent kitchen, terribly overpriced drinks, and a terrible amount of chain-smoking schicky mickies not listening/not dancing to some terribly predictable DJs. A nice place for breakfast, though.

Colin Meeder, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

re. The Salisbury (Green Lanes): I've never been in because it seems a bit bare, and full of people wielding pool cues (perhaps that's just the bit that is visible from the street).

re. The Old Ale Emporium (Green Lanes): I've been in there a few times and quite liked it, but it's always jam-packed and I like a seat.

re. The Nobody Inn (Newington Green version): I used to go in there a lot because it stayed open late. Irritatingly Oasis were always on the juke box (it was around 96-97 though).

Does anyone like the Compton Arms in Islington?

David, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I wasn't telling her to go to ICE - I was just wondering if she had been there and if she thought it was as rubbish as we did. Barbellas is nice for food though, and pitchers of cocktails during its eight hour long happy hour. We will have to take you out for a proper Crouch End night out it would appear Anna. The Princess Alexandra is very nice in the summer for beer and just by the lido.

There is a Nobody Inn in Newington Green which is actually quite nice (though the back half is a bit like a scout hut if that takes your fancy).

Pete, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The Princess Alexandra has some weird punters though like the hugely obese blind man who was sat near us. However the garden out back is great.

Emma, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The Unicorn, Camden Rd. Don't go there very often but good points = cheap, shows football, weekly pub quiz, friendly staff, spacious. Against = dodgy geezers, grubby decor, neglected toilet facilities. Good honest pub, 'pint for the gentleman' etc

Graham C, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The Princess Alexandra is very nice in the summer for beer and just by the lido.

What lido? God, I feel like such a newbie.

Anna, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Duh, the lido by the Princess Alexandra!

It's on Park Road on the way to Ally Pally / Muswell Hill. I have never been as lidos are full of horrible children at the best of times and the proximity to Sprog Central can only exacerbate this problem.

Emma, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Sprog Central = what? a school?

MarkH, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The closest to me is the Master Plan Lounge. I live in very crime ridden area so I imagine the only planning going on in there is of the nefarious variety. Stay away from the Master Plan!

lawrence kansas, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The dodgiest thing about the enormous blind man was his enormous blind MATE who was there with him. One enormous blind man is a coincidence but two seems like carelessness. Also the way these enormous blind men had a team of hangers-on helping them with their vast plates of food and hanging on their every word made me think they might be some kind of huge fat blind mobsters.

Hooray for the Princess Alexandria.

Tom, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Y'know Tom I thought there were 2 then I thought nah, that's way too improbable, I must've imagined it.

Sprog Central = Crouch End, where North Londoners go to breed

Emma, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Sprog Central = Crouch End. It is a little known fact that the Crouch End / Highgate environs are the most fecund place in Northern Europe with more pregnant/people with children under five than anywhere else in the UK, Belgium, Scandinavia, Ireland and Holland.

Pshaw Anna. You'll be telling us you've never been on the Crouch End rollercoaster next.

Pete, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

kathleen's cafe. it's underground and there are italian lounge singers there twice weekly. i've never been though.

maura, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

well i suppose it has to have some kind of public transport

gareth, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I DO NOT TRUST YOU ANY MORE!

Anna, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

where once there was innocence and delight, Pete introduces suspicion and fear. You're a bad man Baran.

chris, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Okay - so I was lying about the rollercoaster. Give a guy a break...

(I can however be trusted on public houses, it is a subject I never lie about).

Pete, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Luckily you can trust me as I am the honest side of the PeteEmma mindmeld. There is no rollercoaster. There are however NUMEROUS buses Gareth which surely count as public transport?

Emma, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I hardly ever go to bars. When I used to, though, I'd go to the Union Colony Brewery where all the hippies went. They'd put Rusted Root on the jukebox and dance.

Mandee, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

In Emma I trust then.

I am innocent and delightful (hem) that's why I keep falling for Pete's lies/

Ana, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Removing the false veil of innocence is my burden unfortunately - but I try to do it in a harmless manner with lies about eyes and rollercoasters which hurt much less than the lies told by the government. Who is the evil man here eh? Is it me with my whimsical untruths or is it the government? Eh? Eh? Eh?

Pete, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

(hem) indeed

;-)

chris, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

My local pub is Gibneys. I only ever go there on Fridays despite the fact that have minor Father Ted stars like Father Damo doing stand up there. I make a point of asking them can they tell some jokes in the middle of their show every week. However they've started charging at the door now so I will have to find a new local. Or just boycott drinking all night in a pub.

Ronan, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'm not having my hems thrown back at me by sex tourists.

Kathleen's Cafe sounds quite nice Maura.

Anna, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"The Pav". It's often full of students.

Graham, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

future sex tourist at least please, I mean I haven't been there yet.

chris, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ah, but you have 'friends' who know the prices in Britain ...

SEX DOMESTIC!

Anna, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

There's a "Pav" in Trinity College in Dublin too. They let you buy 3 cans of shit beer for a fiver. Unlike my shit college bar where everything is full price and made under proper health standards.

Ronan, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Several of you have been to it. The Duke of York, sing its praises.

Ed, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

a bit like an independent All Bar one for my liking. Nice beer though and they let us move the table etc, but where were the nooks and crannies I demand of a pub?

Anna, I may not be talking to you anymore.

chris, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

My nearest pub (and not that bloody near either) is a Jim Thompson's, which doesn't really count. My nearest kosher pub is, appealingly, called the Arab Boy, and it's oaky. And okay. It does have the football on, but then I don't have any friends who live in the immediate vicinity so I always end up watching it at home or travelling into Fulham or town.

When I lived in Royal Leamington S!P!A! I lived just next to the roughest two pubs in the world, or at least I imagine they were, I never went in them. One was called the Jet and Whittle, which was nice. I had to call the police once when I saw shaven headed young gentlemen loitering outside the Jet with an iron bar, drawing a swastika onto the corner shop.

Mark C, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"Come with my to my nook, Thai bar girl, that I might have some fun with yours...."

Tom, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

But you wuv me really Chris. See how my delightful innocence melts your heart ...

Oh alright then.

D of Y - strange sepia tinted television.

Anna, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

can I plagiarise that one Tom?

chris, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Yes "plagiarise". Of course.

Ronan, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Anna, what was once Ice, indeed melted, unfortunately it's turned into slush.

chris, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

ahh bless.

Anna, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Get a Cranny, you two!

Tom, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

If she's going to go round melting people I best try harder at removing her innocence.

What's that mushy pile of goo on the floor? Why if it isn't Cabbage. His days of sex tourism seem long gone. Instead it appears tidal motion has set in.

Pete, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I drive past the Arab Boy on an almost daily basis. Yet have never been in.

dan, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I best try harder at removing her innocence

That has a terrible Tess of The D'Urbavilles ring to it.

Anna, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

*Twiddles moustaches*

Pete, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Go back to talking about pubs the lot of you.

Anna, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I can't believe N. was comparing me to Tom Cruise in Risky Business, jesus you're the ones making pub threads into chances to flirt outrageously. Such a bad influence.

Ronan, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

It's not like I do this often though Ronan, I would never be a candidate for the 1983 teen sex satire that is Risky Business

Anna, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Hmm, closest to our house is probably Otra Parte, a tejano nightclub that bbqs during the day and always has big dodgy looking tourbuses in the parking lot at night. Whenever we drive by I joke about never getting to go there and Hank jokes about not wanting to get stabbed.

The next nearest after that is Ships, which is our favorite bar. Ships is little with one pool table and a great fucking jukebox (bob wills and lightin' hopkins). And it's next door to our fave restaurant, El Monterrey, so you can imagine we get a lot of use out of that particular block.

Samantha, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I can't remember ever indulging in the kind of sinful innuendo that goes on here. Remember, Ireland is a good straight catholic country.

Ronan, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

It's Spring and the sap is rising Ronan - I'm sure it'll all blow over soon enough.

Tom, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Gareth i am hurt. Alberta is much more classy then you give it credit for being . The closeste bars to our place is a faux pub with a sherlock holmes theme and a thai resturant that serves cocktails after 5

anthony, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Anna, if you can do the Rebecca De Mornay bit I will happily give you the rest of my life.

Mark (still not recovered from the experience, age 9)

Mark C, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I think closest bar to me (pubs, wassat?) is "L'Héretier" (sp?) which means The Heir, I think (as in = "The Prince of Wales"). Never been inside but I think you can buy a bolleke there, so it must be good.

Jeff W, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ah yes, 'The Chimneys'. This is also one of those family pub affairs. Apparently families go there and are angry because the people who own it want to sell the plot to developers. it looks scary. people park their souped-up max-power type cars in the car park and seem fairly intimidating when they sit outside drinking. I don't want to go there. ever.

Bill, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Nearest actual establishment-with-bar is the Sam Woo's a few blocks over. Damn good Chinese food, but I've never actually had a drink there. In terms of nearest actual honest-to-god pub or bar...nothing within easy walking distance, to the distress of us who are soaks.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I have quite a few locals being in St Kilda. The Greyhound, The Esplanade and the Prince of Wales, among others. The only one I've been to since I've lived there is the Espy. I'd rather drive across town to the Empress to go drinking.

electric sound of jim, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

wot the fuck are all you sad. lonely old twats talkin ABOUT????if u ask me u all sound like stupid ass raping faggots that have a wife, but that she's only for show to provide proof to your friends that you dont rape young children. you all disgust me!!

Mike Palmer of Honiton, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I went to T-Bird once cause it looked intriguing. I never went back, though.

I have two more or less equidistant pubs too:

The Brownswood, on the corner of Brownswood Road and Green Lanes. Mainly used a landmark when giving people directions. I haven't drunk in there for at least two years. It's just a typical residential area pub. Middle agedish, localish, largeish, serving cheap pub food specialsish. Blackboards with coloured writing. You know the kind of place. Nondescript.

The Stoke Tup on Church St. Yeach. Once the Magpie & Stump, then taken over by the Tup chain and given the 'Stoke' bit about a year ago. Very new Stoke Newington. Boring atmosphere. About the only pub in the area to chuck you out on time. Doesn't even have a pool table upstairs anymore. A bit rubb.

N., Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

woo! jonnie lives in my area.

closer pubs to me than peggspub and coldplayspub is the bar at the back of our kebab shop, sans atmosphere but open till 1pm, free chips, enormous measures and decorated like your grans.

in the other direction, The Settle Inn which has the finest selection of board games in the land. well... only about seven, but the alco-buckaroo challenge is a fine, fine thing indeed.

nickie, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Our Highgate spies spotted the Pegg in the Shepherd's earlier this week sleb fanz.

Emma, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

And I purposefully went to the off licence near the Shepherd's in the hope of bumping into him too. No luck though. But 4 cans of stella for £3.50 was some consolation.

Jonnie, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

You would not make a very good stalker Jonnie. Unless failed to mention that you drank your Stella whilst staking out the Shepherd's.

Emma, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Any clues where I can bump into Jessica Stevenson. (I know she's not single, still...)

Alan Trewartha, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The Settle Inn quiz is free to enter and when you win a round they give you lots of free alcohol. But I kinda miss The Dog that used to be there and its great dartboard.

Pete, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The Settle Inn is the one at the bottom end of Archway Road yes? It always looks a bit intriguing for some reason when I go past it on the bus.

Jonnie, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Its a bit bright and a bit gastropubby but they do keep some nice ales in there, the staff are very nice and the food is actually very reasonable and good. But it stretches my definition of a pub admittedly.

Pete, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

so, it's like the Duke of York, yes?

chris, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

We went to a pub near where my brother lives in Forest Gate to watch Liverpool piss on Leeds when I was over. Actually it was called the Forest Gate. And the landlord looked like Jim Royle. But the thing that struck me was that they kept bringing out dishes with prawns and mussels and stuff on them, it was so absolutely classic. Is it some kind of London thing?

Ronan, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The Castle, the wrong end of Oldham Street, Manchester.

This is God's Own Pub. Cheap as chips, proper beer, as old as the hills, full of marginal types but cool because Cath the landlady rules with a rod of iron. On days when there's trouble int' air she locks the front door and vets everybody when they knock on. A somewhat Cavalier attitude to license restrictions as they apply to opening times. To say the least. Darts, Bar Billiard, Pool and Pinball. I love this pub.

misterjones, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Plenty of proper London locals (ie not the kind of pub anyone round here goes to) lay on "British Tapas" of this sort on a Sunday afternoon. My Dad's local brings out little Yorkshire Puddings stuffed with roast beef and horseradish which are K-num.

Settle Inn is probably even more All Bar One-ish that the Duke O'York because they do proper food - not Thai Muck.

Pete, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

mmmm, there's a pub on the Thames which I've been to a few times with several people who post here that puts out roast potatoes, yorkshires and gravy on a big salver on the bar. I believe PF is a big fan of this practice.

chris, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

WHERE cabbage WHERE?

Sarah, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

erm, very near bermondsey tube, I know it's a favourite of Edna's, in fact Sarah I think you may have been there once when Honey was down, I know Alix was there along with various other foax.

chris, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ha ha! For the next week my local will be a weensy bar in a little hamlet in Normandy where I will drink lots of pastis & cider & calvados & cheap wine and fall off my chair. Happy Easter everyone.

Emma, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

six months pass...
my new local is The Northgate, i went in last night. there are sofas and they play massive attack. oh well, never mind, you can't have everything

gareth (gareth), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 09:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

since Suzy said this: Every other pub in the area, especially the ones on Mount Pleasant, Leather Lane and Exmouth Market are ALL branches of that well-known chain the Halfwit and Banjo (translation: drinking holes for the inbred and infirm).

I have started going to one on the Mount quite regularly and it's very good indeed, a standard working pub that sells damn good beer, and good food.

chris (chris), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 10:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

Which one?

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 11:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

The Apple tree. The beer in there is kept well and it's not full of cycle couriers (apart from two older ones) and Clerkenwell ponces. It's a good normal boozer. Was better before they did it up though. But crucially it has a late licence every day of the working week.

chris (chris), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 11:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

There was a big street fight outside our local the other afternoon and a police van took loads of people away - when London Irish birthday parties go bad!!

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 11:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

also in a similar area is the horseshoe, tucked away up the hill from the Betsey, where Jonnie and I watch the footie occasionally, nice quiet boozer where the beer is good and you don't get annoyed by ponces.

chris (chris), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 11:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

Was there Tom??? When?? I must have been too absorbed in my latest vampire novel to notice.

Sarah (starry), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 12:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

It was a weekday when I was working from home - Wednesday I think. You both missed it and then I was down at Isabel's so I forgot to tell you! But it was v.exciting.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 12:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...
The Stoke Tup on Church St. Yeach.

I think N. is being unduly harsh about this pub. I was in there for just over an hour on Saturday night and I quite liked it....Bombadier on tap, friendly staff and nicely subdued lighting. The Stoke Tup name is a terrible pun, but the chain doesn't seem nearly as awful a brand as many I could mention....the Latin enscription on the lit up fag machine sign could even be described as cerebral. It began Oves optima (Best sheep? Top sheep?) Can't remember the other two or three words as I don't even possess schoolboy Latin.

MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 16 February 2004 00:45 (twenty years ago) link

The Wenlock Arms. It regularly wins CAMRA awards, which is no good to me as I drink lager. I can almost get that 'NORM!' feeling when I walk in...a bar person will start pouring me a pint when I walk in. Which is very handy, apart from last week when I was in the company of a lady, and we quaffed a bottle of wine instead. This may show how rarely I go to my local in the company of a lady. I do not have a problem with this. A man's local operates in his own time and space. There is also a quiz on Thursdays. And some dogs.

Canada Briggs (Canada Briggs), Monday, 16 February 2004 11:03 (twenty years ago) link

just done a bit of googling and there was in fact only one other word which was "sunt" and yes, it does mean sheep are best!

MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 16 February 2004 11:10 (twenty years ago) link

Canada is a lucky lucky person.

chris (chris), Monday, 16 February 2004 11:14 (twenty years ago) link

I'm starting to get really cheesed off with the Boogaloo in Highgate -see upthread for former life as The Shepherds. It used to be more or less passable, with the occasional twinge of celebrity wrongness when Sean Hughes popped in or Bash The Pegg was successful of a Thursday.

However, as soon as I actually move to Highgate, it becomes a flipping 'juke joint' with hipsters lining the walls and checking out each other's boxing boots and asymmetric haircuts. Bah. Although Shane Macgowan hangs out there for days sometimes.

Also - they have bloody live bloody country bloody music on Sunday nights, when I'm trying to get to sleep to remove the badness of the weekend's drinking in order to make a half-presentable appearance at work on Monday morning. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THOSE METROSEXUAL BASTARDS?

Liz :x (Liz :x), Monday, 16 February 2004 11:20 (twenty years ago) link

since I first posted to this thread my visits to the Folly Bridge Inn have diminished to none at all and my visits to the Marlborough House have increased. The latter is largely coz they now have two quiz teams playing in the league...the Marlborough team who used to be St Cross College until the few members of the team whop were actually at the College left. The other team is the Marlborough Lites who actually frequent the pub the rest of the time (ie when not doing quizzes). The landlord has changed and they've put in a huge TV screen which usually has football on. As the pub has huge windows it is very easy to check up on the latest score as I walk past which is pretty handy.

The Marlborough is also Enrique's local but he doesn't go out of the house ever.

MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 16 February 2004 11:34 (twenty years ago) link

just remembered another thing about the Marlborough House - it has pool tables upstairs which still take the old 50p pieces and you have to exchange your new 50ps for old ones at the bar. This is actually the thing the pub is most known for, bizarrely.

Also, they have a picture of Art Garfunkel behind the bar.

MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 16 February 2004 11:40 (twenty years ago) link

The Turf in Oxford got voted as one of the best drinking establishments in Britain by the observer food magazine readers. It's not a bad pub, but not all that, surely?

chris (chris), Monday, 16 February 2004 11:42 (twenty years ago) link

ironic that it was by a food magazine rather than CAMRA or someone like that, coz while the range of beers is impressive the food is awful!

MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 16 February 2004 11:43 (twenty years ago) link

My local pub is the Railway. It used to be a Firkin, but is now a horrid pine-furnished white-walled wankerpub that admittedly does top food. They have candles in lots of silly places as well - I once saw a man accidentally set himself on fire in there. His shirt went up REALLY QUICKLY but he was alright. And yet still they persist with the candles. Fules.

Just up the road is the Crown, which has two big screens showing football. It's a bit shabby, but basically pretty ILE-friendly, and indeed has been the venue of two accidental SE London FAPs in my time. The fancyapint link is talking nonsense, as there are three pubs and three bars on that road alone andd a further two round the corner. Also, the picture was clearly taken in 1985, as it looks nothing like that any more.

I still go to the Dacre Arms at least twice a week though. It is marvellous and warm and friendly and has a proper pub landlord like off the telly and two dogs and the same six old men sitting in the same place all the time.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 16 February 2004 11:44 (twenty years ago) link

were they geezaesthetes?

Stringent Stepper (Stringent), Monday, 16 February 2004 11:45 (twenty years ago) link

some of the voting was rather geezerish

chris (chris), Monday, 16 February 2004 11:47 (twenty years ago) link

My local is now the genuinely eeevil Star of Brunswick. I have never been there but I'm told it's built on the hell mouth or something, hence its eeevil.

Also within mere yards are The Freemasons (slogan: 'it's not what you think it's where you drink' arrgh fuck off), The Farm, the Biscuit Factory, The Coopers Cask ,and the cavernously awful Providence (prev. Litten Tree, prev. Bar Med). Astonishingly, I have never been to ANY of these. I prefer to return to my old locale where I can get Harveys and pool in the inexplicably Aussie-themed Cobblers Thumb (plus lethal Old Rosie cider arrr) or the teeny tiny Rose Hill.

Archel (Archel), Monday, 16 February 2004 11:56 (twenty years ago) link

oh inexplicably Aussie themed pubs. Can't beat 'em. there used to be one in Bristol called the Steam Tavern where lots of things were upside down, including the telly.

MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 16 February 2004 12:07 (twenty years ago) link

My local is still the above, I now go 3 or 4 times a week cos Dublin city is quiet and crap. I know the bouncers, it's embarassing.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 16 February 2004 12:18 (twenty years ago) link

Dublin city is quiet and crap

whatever happened to the craic we hear so much about???

MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 16 February 2004 12:19 (twenty years ago) link

Oh it's probably good if you don't want to go clubbing. There were laws and things, stuff got closed, it's in a "rebuilding phase".

Also I suspect with very few clubs open I've gotten used to going out where I can walk home as opposed to taking a 40 minute bus journey, so lazy.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 16 February 2004 12:20 (twenty years ago) link

I don't understand why Chris insists on comparing our lovely Duke of York to an All Bar One. It's a PROPER LOCAL where everyone knows the names of the Irish people working there, and regulars know about any seediness that might be happening. The Thai food is on the good side (served by ladyboy) and the Bloody Maries are bar quality at pub prices. Also the suited/booted types in there don't seem to have an attitude and lifestyle problem with a) cycle couriers b) trendier folks/LCP students c) old drinkers and d) neighbourhood people.

suzy (suzy), Monday, 16 February 2004 12:26 (twenty years ago) link

I went once and it had very little atmosphere and was full of stripped pine and thai food, ie a malaise suffered by too many pubs in recent times. It just wasn't like a proper pub to me at all.

It may have chanbed since, but I doubt I'll go back anyway.

chris (chris), Monday, 16 February 2004 12:30 (twenty years ago) link

can't beat a good pint of chanbed

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 16 February 2004 12:31 (twenty years ago) link

the bar closest to my house is the embassy.

there are countless pubs near my house (i live between upper street and essex road), but i hardly go to any of them at all. probably most recently i went into the jorene celeste.

i am, clearly, not using the resources of my locale to the fullest advantage.

colette (a2lette), Monday, 16 February 2004 12:37 (twenty years ago) link

is the Jorene Celeste the one that used to be the railway (is that right? it was a posties pub, has a bay window in the fronbt and is very long) if so that's another that got turned from a good, proper boozer, run by very good people into a stripped pine hell. I watched most of Euro 2000 there and it was fantastic.

chris (chris), Monday, 16 February 2004 12:39 (twenty years ago) link

it is very long, i didn't notice anything railroad-y about it, and actually noticed another pub called the jorene celeste somewhere else while i was stumbling around looking at flats on saturday.

colette (a2lette), Monday, 16 February 2004 12:58 (twenty years ago) link

Yep, there's a slightly skanky one in Kentish Town. Comfy though.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Monday, 16 February 2004 12:59 (twenty years ago) link

Dowb my local, right, if you so much as look at someone wrong you'll be leaving with a bar stool inserted up your ass. My fave line to practise on out of towners who come in:

"Do you like hospital food?"

That one cracks the pub up usually as the moron wonders what to say and then BAM you smack him in the face with an ashtray eh? You know what I'm saying? It's a proper working class pub right?

Nutty Nigel (Nutty Nigel), Monday, 16 February 2004 13:00 (twenty years ago) link

My local is called the "The Pig's Rump" and it's owned by my good mate Biceps Bob, who just don't mess with.

Nutty Nigel (Nutty Nigel), Monday, 16 February 2004 13:04 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.urban75.org/brixton/history/images/waterlane1.jpg http://www.urban75.org/brixton/history/images/waterlane.jpg

the Hobgoblin is the building on the left of both pix altho i think in the old pic it was called "George Canning's Pub"

i also have a swish bar near me w/no name on the front but which the proprietor assures me is called "Mango Landin'" - it's on Brixton Water Lane about the same distance away as the Hobgoblin but in the other direction

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 16 February 2004 13:15 (twenty years ago) link

Here's a pic of the aforementioned Freemasons. It's getting harder and harder to find a pub in Brighton that isn't a converted church, factory, stable, mineshaft, or otherwise architecturally 'quirky'.
http://www.thisisbrightonandhove.co.uk/brighton__hove/leisure/at_the_bar/images/freemasonstavern.jpg

Archel (Archel), Monday, 16 February 2004 13:22 (twenty years ago) link

i think the 2nd closest pub to my house is probably the wetherspoons at the top of the O2 centre. i have now been there twice, the second being last night, owing to a power cut; i don't recommend it *except* that you can sit by the window and pretend you're in a hotel bar or something. if that's your thing.

toby (tsg20), Monday, 16 February 2004 13:31 (twenty years ago) link

Closest pub is either the Hemingford Arms which is grebt (tho I haven't been in much of late) or the Arundel Arms which is grim as heck.

Ricardo (RickyT), Monday, 16 February 2004 13:53 (twenty years ago) link

If we're just talking licensed premises, I sort of live above (but a little set back too, it's hard to explain) a bar which is primarily a restaurant called Scruffy's in Nottingham. It's quite pleasent, if a little pricey. It has film posters all over the ceiling which I think is quite cool. I never really go there that much as 20 seconds walk from my front door seems too little effort, if you know what I mean.

The nearest real pub is the Three Wheatsheafs, but there's always boys racers with their tracky bottoms legs rolled up hanging around outside, so I'm scared to go near it.

Nick H (Nick H), Monday, 16 February 2004 14:23 (twenty years ago) link

AH the Hemingford used to be my local, and I was a proper local there, like they'd pour me a pint without asking and lock me in.

Pete (Pete), Monday, 16 February 2004 14:25 (twenty years ago) link

my locals are The Queens Head on Ducketts Common (by Turnpike Lane) and The Old Ale Emporium on the Green Lanes but I have still not been in either yet - er, FAP anyone?

stevem (blueski), Monday, 16 February 2004 14:30 (twenty years ago) link

I don't know how you manage this without the Salisbury being closer than one or other of these pubs?

Pete (Pete), Monday, 16 February 2004 14:33 (twenty years ago) link

has stevem somehow managed to overlook this huge edifice?

MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 16 February 2004 14:38 (twenty years ago) link

The Turf in Oxford's lovely, though drinks are quite expensive, compared to some other places in Oxford. And it reminds me of my years of underaged drinking.

My local at the moment is The Anchor, and it's handily only about 3 minutes away. I like it, just because it's always empty, even at the weekends, so there's somewhere to sit. And they have a good pub quiz as well, with questions that we can actually attempt to answer.

jellybean (jellybean), Monday, 16 February 2004 14:45 (twenty years ago) link

yes sorry the Salisbury is of course closer

stevem (blueski), Monday, 16 February 2004 15:33 (twenty years ago) link

I know the guy who used to run the quiz in the Anchor, not sure if he still does or not. What area is the Anchor in? Bit far north to be regarded as Jericho. I think it's officially Walton Manor.

MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 16 February 2004 15:37 (twenty years ago) link

THE RED COW

I bet the HTML for "red" isn't [red] (where square brackets = pointy brackets, obv)

Sarah (starry), Monday, 16 February 2004 15:39 (twenty years ago) link

Bollocks.

Sarah (starry), Monday, 16 February 2004 15:39 (twenty years ago) link

THE RED COW

MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 16 February 2004 15:42 (twenty years ago) link

What was it about our forebears that they would use blue to mean grey and red to mean brown? There are lots of Red Cows and Blue Boars but no Brown Cows and Grey Boars.

MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 16 February 2004 15:43 (twenty years ago) link

They didn't 'use blue to mean grey and red to mean brown' - cows used to be red and boars were blue.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 16 February 2004 15:45 (twenty years ago) link

and if you carry on like that, yr face will be black and blue!

MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 16 February 2004 15:47 (twenty years ago) link

The Turf in Oxford got voted as one of the best drinking establishments in Britain by the observer food magazine readers. It's not a bad pub, but not all that, surely?

Full of hoorays. Unlike all the other pubs in Oxford. You're right Mark -- I can't actually remember the last time i went to a pub in Oxford. Had a swift one in the Grapes one Saturday afternoon in January. Other than that...

NRQ (Enrique), Monday, 16 February 2004 15:50 (twenty years ago) link

full of hoorays? it's the pub I usually go in when in Oxford, and I never noticed that really, except once on a graduation day. Me and my friend Alex once held the highest score on the quizzer in there for months.

Last time in there, I believe I was with Vicky, Ptee and Tim Hoppo.

chris (chris), Monday, 16 February 2004 15:53 (twenty years ago) link

Like I say, hoorays...

Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 16 February 2004 15:55 (twenty years ago) link

you're funny

chris (chris), Monday, 16 February 2004 15:57 (twenty years ago) link

One of you was even called 'Tim'!

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 16 February 2004 15:57 (twenty years ago) link

and you are even funnier

chris (chris), Monday, 16 February 2004 15:58 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, I would have done an emoticon, but you know... Last time I went was the end of eights week, so was atypical, yes.

ENRQ (Enrique), Monday, 16 February 2004 15:59 (twenty years ago) link

three years pass...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lastrounds/732301320/

ive never been in

Filey Camp, Thursday, 16 August 2007 10:36 (sixteen years ago) link

That looks alright!

Matt DC, Thursday, 16 August 2007 10:39 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.myspace.com/newcrossinn

NU RAVE IS DEAD!

Sarah, Thursday, 16 August 2007 10:49 (sixteen years ago) link

The Chatterton Arms in Pencoed. The biggest shithole pub I've ever been in in my life. The hand dryer in the bogs (I would never normally use the word "bog" instead of toilet, but there's really no better word for it) hasn't worked for literally 15-odd years.

I've been drinking there my entire adult life - 17 or so years - and I still get ignored at the bar in favour of the landlord's friends.

nate woolls, Thursday, 16 August 2007 10:58 (sixteen years ago) link

three years pass...

court enforced boozing, 23/7

http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/5065

nanoflymo (ledge), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 12:32 (thirteen years ago) link

This is my current local. It's been steadily improving for about a decade and now does a decent job of disproving the theory that all pubs called the Railway are crap. I avoid it on a Saturday night but its a decent midweek drinking place.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 12:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Gareth should've frequented the Bank of Friendship eight years ago, my favourite pub on Blackstock Road easy.

Rejoice that you weren't eaten (chap), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 12:41 (thirteen years ago) link

The Kenton -

http://www.kentonpub.co.uk

takes approx 45 seconds for me to walk to. It is awesome. Proper DJ cubbyhole, back garden, good beers, Thursday jumble sale, friendly staff. PIES.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 12:45 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm also minutes away from renowned bastion of the spit and sawdust boozer The Boston Arms. Not a place you can drink in too often and retain a positive outlook on life, but the day it becomes a trendy gastropub is the day I leave the country.

Rejoice that you weren't eaten (chap), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 12:52 (thirteen years ago) link

There's also Artifex Wine Bar near me, which seems like it has really awesome music but the number of arrests I see happening right in front of it on an almost daily basis kind of puts me off :/

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 12:54 (thirteen years ago) link

xp ha. i used to live 2 mins from the boston until recently, but was slightly afraid of it: i'm sure you see more people go in than ever leave. i miss how good tufnell park/kentish town is for pubs now i'm in finsbury park.

joe, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 12:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I've been permitted to leave the Boston many times, it is possible. There are definitely certain times when it's the only pub that'll hit the spot.

Five years ago I would've called the Pineapple my favourite pub in the area, but it's turned oddly soulless since it changed hands.

Rejoice that you weren't eaten (chap), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 13:17 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/22/2213/Shakespeare/Stoke_Newington

I play (badly) for the cricket team.

Neil S, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 13:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I like the Shakespeare.

Rejoice that you weren't eaten (chap), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 13:32 (thirteen years ago) link

if you go to uncle lou's
you'll get black gunk on your shoes
everyone smokes
you'll probably choke
but they got that rhythm and blues

peacocks, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 14:10 (thirteen years ago) link

actual nearest pub is this:

http://img01.beerintheevening.com/95/9555b2dad5aa8f53ebb66dca454f58b0.jpg

it's okay, would be great in any other area but the quality of pubs is strong around me. too many families for my liking and poor music frequently. plus feels a bit funereal imo. not great ales for what seems like a good ale pub either, bland weak english stuff.

http://img01.beerintheevening.com/8c/8cdb1b72f23c5629033768306f1a35d1.jpg

this is better, good music and always lively, nice inside too. been here absolutely loads since moving over to london and how much time me and my friends spend there has that nice running joke feel you get from a good local. downsides are it has a gang of crony cocaine selling dudes who have really inane loud conversations and can take over the place on occasion, plus it can get v crowded.

http://img01.beerintheevening.com/13/13ea38457d76229f41f72e66ce3c28b1.jpg

sometimes feel this is my favourite, though i live like 3 mins from the two above and this is a little further away. beautiful building, nice atmosphere, friendly landlord and they'll serve you till all hours. good bunch of old codgers playing live jazz on fridays and saturdays too. nice in summer being beside the canal. never had a bad night there and being served till 1am on a friday is about perfect, one of the few things i miss about ireland is the later pub opening hours.

http://img01.beerintheevening.com/7f/7f95c83c88602c252bb6e2e4cd62a433.jpg

like this place for a late drink, it's not amazing but prob has the most interesting ales of any of the pubs listed. friendliest staff too. it's a bit pokey but nice lighting, a decent option.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link

I've been going to the Camel a fair bit after life drawing classes on thursday. The ales are ok! And some decent European lagers if that's yer bag. Very small and usually full though. The Approach is our alternative haunt.

nanoflymo (ledge), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link

downsides are it has a gang of crony cocaine selling dudes who have really inane loud conversations

last time i was there three of us were at the small table in their little area by the gents and it became pretty difficult to hear each other. good PIZZA tho.

idgi fridays (blueski), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Ronan is that third one the palm tree? That is my favourite pub in London I think, dismal & stunted palm crucial to appeal imo.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Looks like the Palm Tree to me. I've only been there once but it made quite an impression on me. It seems like it occupies its own little world.

Rejoice that you weren't eaten (chap), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Is the second one the Florist? I quite like it there.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 16:05 (thirteen years ago) link

yep second is the florist, worth a try ledge if you've not been in that yet. esp midweek, when it's quiet there's nowhere better. i do like the approach too tho tend to think it as more of a place to eat.

third is indeed palm tree. apparently it's only called that due to the fact that it used to be part of a street called palm street. assume the tree was added later.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link

no love for The Approach ronan?

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link

i do like it...nice food, but i find the ceiling too high for drinking in there, i don't know why that matters but it doesn't feel compact enough or something. but that's a quibble really, again if it was the only pub on the street i'd be there all the time, it is a great pub too.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link

haha that's true - there is something about high ceilinged pubs. they should be called beer halls or something.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link

i like high ceilinged pubs - one of the things i always want in a pub is space. preferably personal space.

the old man pub is the worst kind of pub, obviously.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I like old man pubs. Time and a place for every type of boozer.

Rejoice that you weren't eaten (chap), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Hip crowded basement bars in Shoreditch/Dalston are generally way worse.

Rejoice that you weren't eaten (chap), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link

old man pubs = creepy old men staring at you, occasionally trying to talk to you and being generally inhibiting presences. and NO DECENT WINE.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link

why you'd go to a dalston basement bar to just drink is beyond me - only go to those places to dance.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Time and a place for every type of boozer.

except walkabouts etc, all bar ones etc, dodgy estate pubs (no problem with friendly estate pubs), awful omnipresent "club with no dancefloor" type bars...

nanoflymo (ledge), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link

really wish we had decent 'pubs' here

ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Love the Florist - recently been wishing it was my local

Also like the Camel - maybe more so in summer because of the outside

Still never been the Palm Tree

cherry blossom, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link

shoreditch generally is so shit for pubs. it really bothers me when i'm in that area. i guess owl and the pussycat does the job and is nice still post-refurb but most of the others are so disappointing.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Has anyone been to The Victory on vyner st?

People in E2 are spoilt for choice:/

cherry blossom, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link

old man pubs = creepy old men staring at you, occasionally trying to talk to you and being generally inhibiting presences. and NO DECENT WINE.

― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, January 26, 2011 5:10 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

The first point isn't true for all of them by any means. The second may be, but I don't drink wine in pubs.

Rejoice that you weren't eaten (chap), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link

I haven't been in the Owl & Pussycat post-refurb. I felt betrayed and disappointed they'd refurbished it at all. Otherwise the Reliance is the only good pub in Shoreditch proper, but that doesn't really feel like anyone could call it a local.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link

The best pubs are the ones that welcome old men and The Kids (as opposed to actual kids) equally.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link

i think we tend to default to the red lion or the strongroom or the barley mow when in sditch. both are fine. i mean, you'd never ever go to sditch for a "quiet drink" would you? all you need pubs there for is pre-club drinking.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link

The first point isn't true for all of them by any means. The second may be, but I don't drink wine in pubs.

i'm basically just trying to discourage anyone from trying to make me go to the wenlock again

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link

That may not be an issue for much longer :(

Matt DC, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link

The Prince Arthur on Brunswick Place is a nice cosy place, feels more trad than Hoxtonised.

Rejoice that you weren't eaten (chap), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link

the red lion never has any place to sit down. owl and pussycat always felt too loud, too crowded, i.e. a bar that looks like a pub.

florist fans really would like the kenton i feel

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link

ou'd never ever go to sditch for a "quiet drink" would you? all you need pubs there for is pre-club drinking.

glad i don't live in shoreditch tbh

nanoflymo (ledge), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link

This is my nearest pub according to FancyAPint.co.uk:

The Victoria
http://www.fancyapint.com/pubs/pub2258.php

Never been in it. The only local pub I've been to is v slightly further away:

Ye Olde Rose & Crown
http://www.fancyapint.com/pubs/pub2257.php

'salright, has a theatre above it, so it gets suddenly busy at interval and then quiet again a few minutes later. Don't really go drinking in pubs around where I live though, because if I am in the pub it's usually with people who don't live near me.

a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Closest pub to me is a recently refurbished old man pub with big tellies for the football. I never go in because it's a hun shop (rangers pub).

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 18:43 (thirteen years ago) link

idk what's going on with the wenlock now, sale appara fell through but they're still looking to sell. last time i was in there before xmas a man wearing a morrissey t-shirt complimented me for looking like morrissey. obv i look nothing like morrissey. great pub.

havent visited the new owl&p either but have been told it's vile tedious gastro. (would assume they took the billiards out as well :/).

was in the florist on sunday for a bit, s'ok but i tend to think of it and the camel as bars tbh. otoh 1) they do london pale ale and 2) they do it in proper jars so fair play.

only been in the palm tree the one time years ago but it seemed fun. iirc the guvnor was doing his nut at someone for ordering water haha.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link

im so envious of all the real pubs. we've got nothing but college bars and shitty pub rip-offs.

Cultivating a manly musk puts your opponents on notice (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link

this is my hangout.
http://armsbyabbey.com/

Cultivating a manly musk puts your opponents on notice (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link

really miss proper pubs & pub sunday lunches now I'm in the US. Have a decent "Tavern" nearby that plays BBC america, has pool tables and a bit of a beer garden; has baseball stuff and photos of baseball stuff all around but it's pretty ok actually. But gooduns are kind of few and far between, particularly when you're used to having about 8 proper pubs within a 10-min walk.

Not the real Village People, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 20:47 (thirteen years ago) link

absolutely would kill for a beer garden around here. never going to happen.

Cultivating a manly musk puts your opponents on notice (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 20:49 (thirteen years ago) link

im so envious of all the real pubs. we've got nothing but college bars and shitty pub rip-offs.

― Cultivating a manly musk puts your opponents on notice (chrisv2010), Wednesday, January 26, 2011 1:14 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

yeah

ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 20:49 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm envious too. i like the names

mizzell, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm sure there are exceptions but anything called a "pub" in the US can be safely avoided

goole, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 20:59 (thirteen years ago) link

uh huh.

around here they call things pubs just because they have guiness on tap.

Cultivating a manly musk puts your opponents on notice (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link

i guess we have dive bars, do those exist in england

ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 21:18 (thirteen years ago) link

i work at a dive bar, buts its a great dive bar. we actually have a bar in town called the dive bar....which used to be a complete shithole when i was 21. now its pretty darn good, owned by same folks as armsby above.

http://thedivebarworcester.com/

Cultivating a manly musk puts your opponents on notice (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link

dive bars exist in England, yes. In London, they often seem to be Spanish-themed, for some reason.

Neil S, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 21:48 (thirteen years ago) link

i never have managed to enjoy the reliance, but have prob only been there on sat nights.

the new owl is v hipsterised and yeah a bit wanky, but they seem to have actually replaced the mini refurb the old irish owner did, where he lost the carpet in favour of v bright wooden floors and put bright lighting in. it actually looks a bit more similar to the old owl now. i've heard it's a real gastro pub but nobody was eating when i was in there.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Thursday, 27 January 2011 19:54 (thirteen years ago) link

the guvnor was doing his nut at someone for ordering water haha

he's famous for this, and other weird tics, like he'll sometimes just not let a group in for no reason. he's one of those landlords that will sit and drink with you when you're the only 3 people left in the place till 3am, but barely recognise you the next time you come in. generally a nice bloke tho.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Thursday, 27 January 2011 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link

lets go to the palm tree, garda

cherry blossom, Thursday, 27 January 2011 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link

he's famous for this, and other weird tics, like he'll sometimes just not let a group in for no reason. he's one of those landlords that will sit and drink with you when you're the only 3 people left in the place till 3am, but barely recognise you the next time you come in. generally a nice bloke tho.

Is this The Sun we're talking about? I have a recent anecdote about a friend having to sit in the cubicle there for a good fifteen minutes while some other friends tried to negotiate some toilet paper for him from the manager, and apparently the manager wasn't making it at all easy to be obtained...

Rejoice that you weren't eaten (chap), Thursday, 27 January 2011 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

haha no that's the palm.

cb i'm game for the palm anytime...apart from tonight or tomorrow, after that tho literally any day ever

I see what this is (Local Garda), Thursday, 27 January 2011 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link

palm tree manager sounds like the worst

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 27 January 2011 21:38 (thirteen years ago) link

longshot i know but is there any pub in london where you can play CHEESES (throwing a big cheese shaped wooden block at some bowling pins) like they do in the midlands.

r|t|c, Thursday, 27 January 2011 22:08 (thirteen years ago) link

not helpful but i know a bar in detroit, usa where you can do that, but they call it feather bowling

mizzell, Thursday, 27 January 2011 22:12 (thirteen years ago) link

freemasons arms in hampstead, though they call it "london skittles" of course: http://www.londonskittles.co.uk/

joe, Thursday, 27 January 2011 22:12 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah soz i was about to say, i could've just googled it.

wow proper alleys! that kinda seems less fun than the drop-down midlands table tbh:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skittles_(sport)#Midlands

r|t|c, Thursday, 27 January 2011 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link

palm and palm tree next friday

cherry blossom, Friday, 28 January 2011 00:27 (thirteen years ago) link

oh no just palm tree not palm

cherry blossom, Friday, 28 January 2011 00:27 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

BREAKING NEWS: the camel on globe road now sells punk ipa on draught. been there about 5 times since i found this out, which is about 5 times more than in the previous three years.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 18 March 2012 10:55 (twelve years ago) link

We just got a new local in a converted post office, it's pretty cool, snugs in old bank safes and stuff. Which is good because the actual closest local is fine for football watching but going in with girls feels like a complete no-no. It's basically all builders from what I can see.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 18 March 2012 11:59 (twelve years ago) link

nine months pass...

Calling Chap: is the Dartmouth Arms any good?

A Yawning Chasm (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 20 December 2012 12:16 (eleven years ago) link


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