straight people going to gay bars/clubs: is this bullshit?

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i drag straight friends to gay bars all the time. what's the big deal?

lol @ thread

gay people going to straight bars/clubs: is this bullshit?

There's a gay bar right around the corner (literally like 30 seconds away) from my apartment. So sure, I've gone there a few times, esp. in inclement weather when I don't feel like walking the half-mile to the next-nearest bar. No one seems to mind.

as long as they don't mind being hit on in a civilized way.

I'm just wondering if I'm the only one bothered by this and if I'm being stupid. Probably. I'm also hoping this can become an endless clusterfuck thread.

should gay bars institute a homosexual variant of the 'paper bag test'?

Any minute now!

What's the paper bag test?

xxxp That's the spirit! Are you gay or straight, ryan?

lol at dom

There's a gay bar right around the corner (literally like 30 seconds away) from my apartment. So sure, I've gone there a few times, esp. in inclement weather when I don't feel like walking the half-mile to the next-nearest bar. No one seems to mind.

-- jaymc, Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:20 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

i tht u were bi neway?

How would the gay version of the paper bag test work???

I'm straight but get hit on by men a lot so I probably project gay!

This might stop if you stop going to gay clubs...?

FAGGOTS FUCK FAGGOT ASS AND GET NIGGER AIDS AND DIE AND ALSO HITLER

"the paper bag test used to determine one's fitness to enter certain public places, including nightclubs. skin lighter than a brown paper grocery bag could pass, darker skin could not pass."

guys i've gone to lesbian bars a few times and it's totally cool

I can see being upset about it. The assumption could be that everyone in a gay bar/cub is potentially receptive to advances from members of the same sex. Takes the guessing out of trying to figure out if that might be the case. If it's a mixed crowd, it's a guessing game again.

I met my fiancee at a gay bar. I'm straight, she's bisexual. We were both their with mutual friends.

"there"

I can't spell grammar worth a shit today.

The gay bars here suck, so I end up at het establishmetns 98% of the time anyway, but when I'm obliged to take them they're cool, especially when they realize that their own cool points shot up astronomicaly with the straight girls in there.

Better question: gay guys who hate going to anyplace BUT gay bars c/d.

If it's a mixed crowd, it's a guessing game again.

YES LIKE I SAID, HITLER

i tht u were bi neway?

Yeah. I usually go to the gay bar with my girlfriend, though.

straight men could not possibly want to sleep with me in smaller numbers than gay men do.

That's weird, considering the direction of the thread I'd have thought it wd be more like "skin darker than a brown paper bag could pass" because if it's about proving you're gay "enough"...oh well.

xpost smaller than zero is just math

is the Abbey a gay bar?

gay bars on tv have the best names

I used to go to lesbian bars all the time and this was never felt it was a problem this could however be because I'm not entirely straight. I have never felt 100% comfortable in gay male clubs. I've always felt as if as if a lot of the men didn't like women being there. Then again, I could be paranoid or just going to the wrong clubs/bars.

Abbey usta be; just one night a week now?

thx a lot kenan, I get a free date with yr brother for that one.

Better question: gay guys who hate going to anyplace BUT gay bars c/d.

Total dud. One of my best friends is gay and hates going to "straight" bars and it can get kind of annoying, to be honest.

xpost :)

he's cuet.

As I said, I've a couple of friends who hang out 99% of the time with other gays; even when I invite them to accompany my het friends and I they're nervous and awkward.

The excuse? "I'm playing a part nine to five. After five, I can be myself."

That's a terrible excuse.

srsly. GROW A SPINE, PUSSY

Tell your friends to stop being pussies.

xpost HA

I think there is probably a lot of factors at play, especially for women who do this. Not least a perceived "no pressure" zone in dealing with the opposite sex, like a gender free utopia or something.

if you're a straight dude who really loves dancing to diva house or old whitney houston, you're not gonna have a lot of straight bar options

That's weird, considering the direction of the thread I'd have thought it wd be more like "skin darker than a brown paper bag could pass" because if it's about proving you're gay "enough"...oh well.

That goes completely against all social precedent, though.

xp: if you're a str8 dude who loves that, give it up

i understand this is not a real problem xpost

My friends are Pearl Jam fans.

No wonder they're pussies!

the only thing i love more than dancing to diva house is pussy

haha -- ABANDON HOPE

i understand this is not a real problem

i think maybe it is for some... i mean... totally theoretically. Totally.

No, I guess not, Dan. I thought of it as a black pride thing -- prove yr "one of us" or whatever.

Straights need to realize that they're doomed as a species.

gotta make way for the homo superior

oh boo

the church of man-love is such a holy place to be.

max!

so wait pearl jam lovin homos are taking over the world????

http://www.23hq.com/edouard/photo/822151/standard

loves Pearl Jam, is gay

haha -- my straight friends love PJ, the gay ones don't go to straight clubs, I got the brains, you got the looks, etc.

Gay man who only hits gay bars:

http://l.yimg.com/img.tv.yahoo.com/tv/us/img/site/46/68/0000034668_20061021010455.jpg

lol hueg

http://www.dickdestiny.com/jpg

Please Mommy, don't tell me any more stories about Daddy at the gay club!

straight man who loves teh gays:

http://nickolas17dp.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/jake_gyllenhaal_02.jpg.w300h474.jpg

lol tripod

lol "tripod"

image blocked by third leg

http://www.solocine.it/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/jake_gyllenhaal.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/19748199@N04/

My experiences going to gay bars as a straight guy is that it's by and large totally chill. That being said, if gay dudes were to resent my presence there in some big way (which has never happened, as far as I can tell), then I would be inclined to not argue and respect their wishes to have a space where they don't have to deal with the "straight" world during their leisure time...esp. if they happen to live somewhere that is less receptive to gay culture overall. Everyone deserves some kind of sanctuary from bullshit.

going to gay bars is usually pretty fun, except i got dragged to some weird warehouse called the eagle once where there were dudes in leather chaps and masks and i heard some dude say "eew, women" -- I WAS OUTTA THERE PRETTY QUICKLIKE

being said, if gay dudes were to resent my presence there in some big way (which has never happened, as far as I can tell)

We only do this if you're ugly.

Maybe it has something to do with patrons' ages? My most extensive experience in a gay bar involved going there with an ex-girlfriend, in part b/c oftentimes the environment there seemed less annoying somehow than other local "straight" places. I wouldn't classify her as a "fag hag", whatever that means, in any sense, but the guys there always treated her awesomely.

Oh, the part I forgot to post is that the patrons of this particular place were largely middle-aged.

i think it's a good bet that if any bar has the word "eagle" in the title it's a leather daddy bar

as long as they don't mind being hit on in a civilized way.

-- Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 09:21 (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

^^^ this

Straight guys who go to gay bars and WHINE LIKE BABIES because some guy groped them in the arse c/d

some gay/lesbian bars are fun (in SF I dig the Eagle and El Rio and used to enjoy Kimo's). Some I have no interest in but always chuckle at their "risque" names (the Men's Room, the Midnight Sun, Look Daddy's Coming, Moby Dick, etc.)

http://www.metavox.co.kr/images/userdif/goods/jazz/ncd/f002/16430.jpg

I think it depends on the situation. There are bars I don't tend to want to go to: lesbian pick-up bars where I feel distinctly unappreciated on a Saturday, say, or gay pick-up bars where I end up having to fend off lots of inquiries without looking like I'm a rubbernecker or otherwise causing offense, but that's often more a function of the day and time than the bar itself and if I'm there with a bunch of gay friends, I figure I'm a 'guest' and I don't care if anybody takes offense. I also think that it depends on your behavior. I don't get grossed out by dudes kissing on the dance floor or talking dirty or checking people out or hitting on me, for that matter, if there not louts about it, or going off to do drugs together or whatever, so I don't feel that I'm sullying anybody's sanctuary.

There's a place near me called The Dick Liquor. Sadly it's nothing to do with the gays.

Kimo's is gay?! I played there once and didn't notice. Or get laid.

I have arguably never been to a gay bar in Portland, but I'm told I'm not missing much. Still that might give you a sense of my take on this "issue", if you couldn't already guess.

Kimo's is old skool gay for sure. I don't go there, however, as the owner is a completely creepy pervy voyeur who has a security camera system that's wired TO HIS HOME where he can keep an eye on the bar's patrons 24/7. I am not kidding.

pics

Looks like he's trying to sell.

http://www.kimosbar.com/

omg Embarchie there's a ton of punchable stuff on that link that is completely ignorable because of NAZI WOLF

My impression of Kimo's was that it was more of a sort of transexual bar or something? But maybe I'm confabulating it with other Polk St. institutions.

I just wish that Hemlock Tavern had opened up under the old-school Giraffe name. That signage rules.

Some I have no interest in but always chuckle at their "risque" names (the Men's Room, the Midnight Sun, Look Daddy's Coming, Moby Dick, etc.)

Best gay bar logo in SF: the Pendulum.

NB: Paper-bag test = do you have to put a paper bag over their head when you hump them?

what about straight guys who go to gay bars to pick up chicks?

i mentioned it!

we used to dance at the gay/lesbian bar quite a bit... it's a better place to go to dance and not be bothered imho. but this was like a dance club in a lot of ways.

i guess my question might be... the bar, is the sole purpose hooking up? or can a person just be getting a drink and being out around people?

kimo's and hemlock i mostly just know for some of the more nutty rock/art shows i've seen. (which ain't sayin too much probably... never did get to see extreme elvis do his thing. nice guy tho.)
m.

When you straight guys get back from the gay bars, tell me what they're like.

the only thing i love more than dancing to diva house is pussy

-- max, Tuesday, January 29, 2008 4:38 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

max otm ftw

Any chicago folks go to that club by Belmont called Berlin ever?? that place is a fuckin party

Hey, Eric, let's hang out and do anything other than go to gay bars.

i love u max

Straight people are not allowed to go to this gay bar:

http://melbourne.metblogs.com/archives/2007/05/the_peel_has_wo.phtml

How do they regulate it? Is there a gay breath test or something?

Yes. Does your breath smell like cock? Then you're in.

I've never felt unwelcome in gaybars/night clubs. Should I be?

The one I've been to most (quite a famous establishment in Brisbane) has mirrors behind all the urinals so everything's on show. Is this common?

I've heard of that one, so probably not.

I'm going to Melbourne's big gay street parade on Sunday. Will take cock breath spray just in case.

Is that midsumma fest?

yer.

Why bother with the breath spray? Actual cock is surely more fun.

Costs more in this area

Are you in bizarro world, where the blowjob recipient gets paid to endure the blowjob?

Wait

My god, you're right.

There's a gay pub just over the road from my flat. It stays open later than the other places in our area, so my boyfriend and I sometimes pop over for a quick late drink. One of our downstairs neighbours works behind the bar. It's a pub not bar, so it's pretty chilled and not especially hook-uppy. It's much friendlier than the pub opposite it, where they look askance at you if you have all your own teeth.

On Saturday a female friend and I were taken to a transvestite/ transgendered club. That was a hook-up joint, but no one minded us being there, several people asked if we'd consider going again. I've never felt quite so short in my entire life though.

That said I don't consider it a right of mine to be able to prance into any given bar or club - establishments make their own rules, written or unwritten - people generally want to hang out with those who share a roughly similar mind set. It's about decoding the signals the place is sending. Dress code and music policy play as big a part in this as anything else. There are certain gay nights I wouldn't go to as a straight woman and I don't go to other places because I'm not a teenager and others yet again because I don't like sports, don't work in the City, am not a goth etc.

I don't know if this has been covered above as such, but:

Back in the day, my wife would go to gay clubs with friends, as it was one place they wouldn't get hit on by blokes all the time. Of course, they'd bump into other friends and it would be all "you?" "No" "Me neither"...

Why bother with the breath spray? Actual cock is surely more fun.
-- Casuistry, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 07:30 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link

where do you think the cock breath spray comes from?

China.

I briefly shared a house with a bloke who'd go to the local gay bar (the Granby for Reading ilxors) to pick up women (successfully).

every mouthful could potentially be several of ~700 million people's sperms

xpost

You're confusing cock breath with cum breath again.

the one time i went to a gay club todd terje was playing and i received a sensual back rub from a big shirtless gurning dude with a handlebar. cannot recommend it enough!

this guy?

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41129000/jpg/_41129645_gurner203.jpg

lol @ kenan

FAGGOTS FUCK FAGGOT ASS AND GET NIGGER AIDS AND DIE AND ALSO HITLER

― kenan, Tuesday, January 29, 2008 5:27 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

kenan's best post ever

My best male friend at the moment is gay and most of the rest of my friends are women and I don't feel entirely comfortable around most heteronormative dudes as they roar like a bunch of testosterone-fueled grizzlies over touchdowns and goals on the TV and I like to dance and I like to karaoke. So I hope the gays in the gay bars that I go to don't think my presence is bullshit, because they're some of the few places that I don't feel entirely out of place. If there were more non-scenester hetero nancy boy bars, I would go to those.

I HEART CREEPY MENS

A good male friend of mine used to bartend at a lesbian bar and swears that it was the most sexually active time of his life (he's married now).

my friend & i stumbled into an older dudes' gay bar in prague, it took a little while to even realize it was a gay bar. no dancing or anything, just seemed like regular quiet czech bar.

we sat down w/ our beers, noticed we were being stared at a little bit, then noticed the photographs of naked dudes on the walls.

i imagine most people just assumed we were gay, too. we got the stares mostly b/c we were the youngest there by like 20-30 years

the only thing i love more than dancing to diva house is pussy

max otm btw

xp I went into a bar like that in Portland, except no nude photos. The only clues were the overly friendly bartender with multiple rainbow tattoos and the all-male, mostly paired clientele. We couldn't convince the gay dude in our group that it was a gay bar. He went and asked the bartender and felt kinda sheepish when he came back with an affirmative.

It was a pretty classy place tbh.

My best male friend at the moment is gay

Misread this as "my best friend is gay at the moment." Hm.

haha xxp

The first time I went to London I went out with a friend of mine who was living there at the time. At the first joint we went into she offered to go to the bar. As I sat there and observed the surroundings, I realized that everyone in the place was female and that there were a lot of really butch looking ladies. By the time she got back we'd both figured it out. "Ladies Night" meant something totally different at that bar then what we were used to.

"heteronormative dudes" – lol.

I had an unfortunate run-in on Halloween night at the gay bar around the corner from my apartment. While waiting for Jesse to show up, I got into a conversation with a guy in his late 30s/early 40s who, it became quickly clear, was quite drunk and lonely. (He had been dancing by himself at his bar stool when I got there.) He asked me if I was "typically straight," and I admitted, "Yes, typically, I am. And I'm in a long-term relationship with a woman right now, so." Of course, that didn't stop him from asking for my number and then later, after I made it clear that I really wasn't interested, from grabbing me and sitting me down on his stool and trying to engage me in some role-playing that involved him as "Jimmy Caan" and me as "Babs" (Funny Lady, I guess?) I tried to laugh it all off, but I guess he took this as me making fun of him, and when he finally left -- by this time, Jesse had shown up -- he narrowed his eyes at me and said, "You breeders make me sick."

How big was his stool?

trying to engage me in some role-playing that involved him as "Jimmy Caan" and me as "Babs"

dying at this

men creepily trying to pick up women: generally scary

men creepily trying to pick up men: generally hilarious and sometimes scary

How would the gay version of the paper bag test work???

― HI DERE, Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:25 PM (1 year ago)

so much joy here

Do you guys think you wld get more hostility as a jeans and Old Navy shirt-wearing person in a goth club, or as a str8 in a gay club?

"I am sorry, you are gayer than this paper bag and therefore too gay to enter this club. Good day."

lol

Do you guys think you wld get more hostility as a jeans and Old Navy shirt-wearing person in a goth club, or as a str8 in a gay club?

Definitely the former, in my experience. 'Straights' I've gone to a particular goth club with (for '80s night dancin') have reported quite a bit of hostility from the locals.

Dan you have made my morning perfect.

xp lol Neo

what's in the paper bag, though? poppers, maybe

http://rlv.zcache.com/2_grooms_blonde_and_black_hair_bag-p1494700532441555962w92h_400.jpg

that's paper?

hey a GIS for "gay bag" turns up a lot

i'm calling jaymc Babs from now on

didn't work for the last guy tho

just call him Stools.

As I inched my way off the seat, I believe I said, "I'm going to go direct Yentl now."

oh okay i thought u meant:

http://badpamma.com/images/model_babs_color.jpg

hott girls at gay bars = good

kenan i kiss you. those old posts made my morning excellent.

also, i really have no opinion. i've invited so many straight people to gays bars that i have no problem. (i mean, if people REALLY LIKE DISCO, they have a right to go somewhere where they can hear it played super-loud, right?)

ugh the hot girls are always the ones i want to punch. it's the crazy theatrical big ugly girls i love in a gay bar.

(and no i'm not getting confused between them and the queens)

you want to punch girls

well, yknow. not really. but if i see paris hilton fake lipgloss style girl next to some hot young twink boyfriend (and this is anywhere not just at gay bars), my first inner thought is: 'punch the girl and kidnap the boy'

so it's more inner reaction to the beauty myth than actual physical, outward reaction to the beauty myth.

etc.

"I Punch Beauty: The Table is the Table Story"

really? my first thought is "enjoy your shitty lives, if you are able"

http://th05.deviantart.net/fs26/300W/i/2008/241/4/6/black_beauty_by_holdyourhorses.jpg

"Why the punchings? ;_;"

oh no i love me a horsey. i discriminate against humans only. and fuckin spiders, egads.

how about celibate spiders

Fuck 'em.

yo even charlotte creeps me out. look at that tiny mouth!

http://www.nmr.com/uploads/charlotte.jpg

i have only been to a gay bar once, how is this possible??

You are straight.

got me there

well, yknow. not really. but if i see paris hilton fake lipgloss style girl next to some hot young twink boyfriend (and this is anywhere not just at gay bars), my first inner thought is: 'punch the girl and kidnap the boy'

― my bach penises and their contrapuntal technique (the table is the table), Tuesday, November 10, 2009 5:48 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ok well this is not what i meant by hot girls but whatever.

typical ilx :)

me: i like hot girls

table: i like ugly girls

eric: who goes to gay bars?

lol. excellent.

i have only been to a gay bar once, how is this possible??

You're gay.

!

On the weekend, an overly solicitous salesman in a gayish swimwear store was giving me a lengthy sales pitch when suddenly he stopped, indicated a particularly fruity pair of speedos, and said, "Can I tell you something serious? Straight men buy these now. They go to Arc (trashy gay nightclub) because they like the music and they like to have their back licked by men, but they won't have sex with you. They're not gay for sex." This rant went forever and became more and more clearly about one particular dude who had refused to sleep with the salesmen, ending with, "And he has a wife. She knows all about it." Did not seem like a good time to tell him I have girlfriend.

want to hear that story in more detail!

So does that straight man wear the speedos to the club? That would make it a lot easier for people to lick his back, if he was just wearing speedos.

Another highlight was his opening his spiel with, "If you buy those, you have to take 'straight-acting' off your Manhunt profile."

OMG!

gayish swimwear store

?

Another highlight was his opening his spiel with, "If you buy those, you have to take 'straight-acting' off your Manhunt profile."

― sandy, Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:21 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

amazing

i can only imagine your face as he is telling you that story

gayish swimwear store

Yeah what were you doing there in the first place?

Looking for gayish swimwear, obv.

Another highlight was his opening his spiel with, "If you buy those, you have to take 'straight-acting' off your Manhunt profile."

lolz