The French language, grammar

«Lexik», le guide pour «capter» la cité

g tant oublié c grave koi !

merci pour le link! je ne sais pas exactement ce que je lis, et c'est tres mal, je sais, mais donne moi quelques semaines!

je viens d'ecouter un reportage a propos du lexique, cela m'intrigue. je veux bien me procurer un exemplaire - il n'est pas disponible a present sur amazon.ca/amazon.fr. on peut le commander d'avance a fnac mais le frais de livraison aux E-U fait 16 euro ! c dingue

je suis le king la reine du divan.

J'aime bien le Français, mais j'ai presque oublié tout. :-(

je vous conseille d'ecouter radio france, surtout france info - grace a la radio sur internet il m'est assez facile a reapprendre un francais plus ou moins courant.. moi aussi je dois le faire, j'ai ete tj assez nul en ecriture mais je commence a perdre la parole egalement !

Je voudrais parler un français très antique, le français des encyclopedists. Ou peut-être la langue d'oc des troubadours.

en ce qui concerne l'ecriture academique, y a pas de grande difference entre le francais au xviieme et le francais contemporain, je trouve - ce n'etait pas en aucun cas tres antique !

Est-ce que l'on peut parler comme ces écrivains?

Il y a un livre chez Powells sur l'argot des années 70s en Anglais pour les francophones. C'était groovy.

je suis une poupee de cire
une poupee de son

La grammaire française est insupportable, il y a autant d'exceptions que de règles. Du moins c'est ce que je pensais pendant mes cours de français quand j'étais plus jeune. J'aime bien le vieux français du moyen-âge, celui où les verbes se finissent en "-oient". Mais j'ai arrêté d'en lire depuis que j'ai arrêté de faire de l'histoire.

oui, il y a autant d'exceptions mais pour anglais aussi, non?

je ne savais pas que tu peux parler comme ca, daria et cas -- c'est tres jolie! tu dois m'excuse parce que je n'ai pas parle francais pour longtemps. je dois m'amemliorer bientot!!

Il y a un autre thread ou on parle en français. Je ne veux pas le chercher ce matin gris, je regrette.

Fus, fus, fut, fûmes, fûtes, furent.

Je voudrais parler un français très antique

La chanson du Roland. Ça me fait chier.

On va pouvoir transformer ce lien en un point de rendez-vous pour la communauté francophone de ILX!

hahaha madchen

bonjour. j'ai un matin tard aujourd'hui -- je suis a l'office a 11 heures. c'est parfait

j'ai encore rien mangé sauf du café

c'est l'heure

Sauve qui peut!

j'ai encore rien mange de tout mais j'ai faim! travail maintenant

J’en ai ras le cul du boulot aujourd’hui. Je suis nase. J’ai sommeil. Je m’y emmerde et tout-ce je veux c’est de retourner chez moi et me recoucher.

bof

is "manak" a french slang term? what does it mean?

Aucune idée

(does anyone say that? wouldn't you just say pas idée)

Aucune idée

never heard of it , but i don't use much paris, france slang. not in sync with the french murican xperience. am partial with "beu" tho, such a lil vile sound there must be something to it.

Never heard the term manak. Where did you hear it and what leads you to believe its frech slang? And aucune idée is what ppl would say, not pas idée.

Is that the actual spelling or some kind of transliteration of, say, "mon mec," as in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zgB1Jfpjdw

is a beu a lush?

i have a little group of french friends on fb and they say it all the time. i now believe it to be either a dude's nickname or an injoke, tho

beuh is weed. it's verlan (slang where you invert syllables of words) for herbe (grass)

o wow. kinda surprised i havent heard it tbh

actually maybe i have and just glossed over it as something i didnt know

what about "le saut" as slang?

le saut as slang doesn't ring any bells. closest i have is that sauter quelqu'un means to have sex with someone but i've never heard the noun version of the verb used that way. or it's just that they all really like to speak about jumps?

haha. i feel like i've heard it used meaning exactly what "dump" would when referring to a city.

i'm not 100% on that tho

if you say "le grand saut" would mean ur getting married or ur making a massive change in ur life according to a frenchie but she's not aware of any other meaning

"faire un saut" can mean to take a brief trip somewhere: "je fais un saut a Paris," etc. Not quite slang, just an expression. "Faire le grand saut" can also mean "to die" - but again, hardly slang. (It sounds like it should be some sort of highly risky sex act only possible in France, but that doesn't seem to be the case.)

You can look under "locutions" to see other idiomatic uses (definitions in French only, unfortch): http://cnrtl.fr/definition/saut

Why did Le journal en français facile at RFI suddenly stop this week?

Wednesday and Thursday were non-working days in France (journée du 8 mai) and so everybody 'a fait le pont' and took Friday off for a very long weekend. I would guess that is why, but I'm not certain.

I forgot to do the groceries so I'm basically just eating bread, honey and cheese and I have a whole day to go. Purée.

Oh, thanks. Thought there might have been a strike or something. Last one was Saturday, May 4, maybe they extended the bridge the other way and took the whole week off.

Server outage

Journal en français facile
Suite à un important problème avec nos serveurs, le journal en français facile n'a pas pu être publié.

Veuillez nous excuser pour la gêne occasionnée, et nous vous remercions de votre patience en attendant le rétablissement du service.

L'équipe Langue française de RFI.

can anyone advise which of the 'french for reading knowledge' type books out there are the best/worst? i mean the type that are designed for graduate students prepping for language exams, though not necessarily only those.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/nov/03/french-language-watchdogs-say-non-to-gender-neutral-style

so what's up with this

i read an article spelled this way the other day and it seemed pretty wild. like how do you read it aloud?

gender-neutral german when

Ime out loud people just say eg étudiants et étudiantes

In writing it’s now pretty common

Étudiant.e.s is even more common in Quebec. Out loud I'd just alternate between 'étudiantes et étudiants' and 'étudiants et étudiantes'.

Anyway, I've already posted about this debacle elsewhere and am too lazy to pick up the thread again.

…the tl;dr being: in grammatically gendered languages, l'arbitraire du signe prevails 99% of the time, to the extent that to speak of 'gender' is almost a misnomer. E.g. Persian/Farsi is a genderless language, yet Iran is hardly a tolerant country as a result (take that, Sapir-Whorf). Nevertheless, active efforts to prevent linguistic inclusivity are obviously unjustified and reactionary (j'encule l'Académique française quel que soit son genre).

*l'Académie, bah

In gendered languages, gender may be a misnomer when you're talking about things that aren't humans. But once you're talking about people, their roles and the jobs they do etc., it's not arbitrary, at all.

Indeed!

At the risk of repeating myself yet again, many French people (from France) are shocked to discover that Valérie Plante is Montreal's mairesse because historically (and tellingly) that term was used to refer to the mayor's wife. Reclaiming it as a linguistic possibility for women is a necessary act, and readily accepted in a Québécois context.

An additional repetition: I do find it fascinating how English has gone in the opposite direction with regard to gendered titles: 'actress' or 'poetess' are nagl, whereas an actrice who calls herself as an acteur (understood as a neutral term, supposedly) can often (but not always) be rightly assumed to identify with the right.

Écrivain/écrivaine and auteur/autrice are better examples tbf.

English seems to be going the other way in some regards, losing female equivalents. Women are now more often actors than actresses. You'd have thought it would be better to try to give the word actress the same gravitas as actor, rather than banishing it.

Wait, it's nagl to call Zooey Deschanel an actress?

j'encule l'Académique française quel que soit son genre

Haha

Wait, it's nagl to call Zooey Deschanel an actress?

Not so much these days, no. It does get a bit confusing when, as a progressive, you're expected to do one thing in one language and the exact opposite in the other. I'm inclined to agree with Zelda, though.

The “Immortals”, as the 40 academy members ... are known

Super cringey