BBQ

I'll take a brisket and sausage plate

ya where the wonder and pickle chips @ ? !!!!

GINB!!

Chopped, not too fine, don't bogart the black edges for yourself, sauce somewhere in between tomato-based and vinegar-based, not too much, it's more for the fries than the sandwich, which should have slaw on it, kthx.

this new place is near me and is my enemies even though i eat there sometimes. authentic brooklyn bbq wtf guys.

God, cable tv was jammed full of BBQ specials yesterday. WANT WANT

Um no Carolinas on there?

CAROLINAZ

option #3

ugh, smoke joint was terrible when we went.

mmmmmm Kansas City

yeah i know its just sitting there taunting me like hey have some bbq its not v good is it i am only one block away

anyone been to the place in sunset park? ive heard good things from unreliable sources

xp smoke joint

D'oh that damn Z!

I'm voting for Alabama because Dreamland ribs blew my fuckin' mind and I've eaten there more recently than KC, Memphis or the CAROLINAZ (never been to Texas much.) St. Louis is not a great BBQ town IMO.

btw texas is the best u guys

Yeah but it's Texas.

i thought this would be about mark sultan.

anyway, i'll take payne's bbq, plz.

I would eat the hell out of some brisket.

texas is actually a pretty great place when you go there

> Yeah but it's Texas.

And what exactly is your objection to buckets of microbrewed german and czech style beer with your meal?

no monogolian, no credibility

I've had BBQ'ed ribs twice in the past four days. This is surely a good thing.

if i lived in texas i would be so fat

just sit around in the a/c eating brisket

texas is actually a pretty great place when you go there

i would rather have a bullet in my head than go to houston again.

Or Dallas.

xpost - i was just thinking that!

oh, houston is SO much worse!

And I'm not planning on going near El Paso or San Antonio if I can avoid it.

I've never been to Austin though. At some point, I suppose I should.

yeah i was gonna say except houston and dallas but you know

i liked galveston, i liked the hill country, i liked west texas, i loooved the bbq.

i would also not like to ever go to waco, el paso, or amarillo. i loved austin and am the only person i know who liked dallas.

never again got to waco, etc...

austin was alright

I don't think I'll ever go to Texas unless I'm flying. Takes three days of driving just to get into and out of there!

1) Memphis (actually Northern Mississippi you fuckers)
2) Genghis Khan/Mongolian
3) North Carolina
4) Korean/Yakiniku
5) Tri-Tip (Central Californian)
6) Luau
7) Satay

Payne's BBQ in Memphis was the best I've ever had. Also, the inside of the restaurant looks like a Jim Jarmusch film.

i have read the mongolian bbq wiki and i am declaring it to be not bbq

Nomadic Mongolians have several barbecue methods, one of them called 'Khorkhog'. They first heat palm-sized stones to a high temperature over the fire and sandwich several layers of lamb and stone in a pot. The cooking time depends on the amount of lamb used. It is believed that it's good for your health if you hold the stone used for cooking.

Another way of cooking is a "boodog" ("boo" means wrap in Mongolian). Usually marmot (black tail prairie dog) or goats are cooked in this way. There is no pot needed for cooking "boodog", after slaughter and dressing, the innards are put back inside through a small hole and the whole carcass is cooked over the fire.

The Mongolian barbecue often found in restaurants is a style of cooking falsely attributed to the mobile lifestyle of nomadic Mongolians. Having its origins in Taiwan in the mid to late 20th century, "Mongolian" barbecue consists of thinly sliced lamb, beef, chicken, pork, or other meat, seasonings, vegetables, and noodles, or a combination thereof, that are quickly cooked over a flat circular metal surface that has been heated.

Payne's BBQ is awesome. So is Arthur Bryants. These places' reps are well deserved IMO.

Payne's BBQ in Memphis was the best I've ever had.

most otm thing i've ever read on ilx. i can't wait to go back in september.

That said I'm still not sure that any of them beat Dreamland's ribs. I don't really advocate going to Birmingham or Tuscaloooooosa for any reason really, BUT if you are there then you have to go there.

oh shit, i think i've been there^^.

mmm, Payne's.

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THE SALT LICK U GUYS SRSLY

More BBQ pics pls

i like it north carolina style. on a bun w.slaw

had some pretty good ribs in nyc over memorial day, there's more bbq places here now than ever before. new york's never been a bbq town.

what about brazilian-style bbq where they bring around all the meat on swords? that's big out here but I've never tried it.

I've had it. It's def. good.

had some pretty good ribs in nyc over memorial day

uh where

Basically there is no bad way to char meat.

> THE SALT LICK U GUYS SRSLY

A man who knows whereof he speaks.

Payne's is teh awesome, but if you want ribs it's all about Cozy Corner.

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I have heard of this Cozy Corner. I've only been to Memphis once since I moved down here, so it's high time for a food road trip. Nashville's BBQ is not its strong point. Hot chicken, on the other hand, is the shit.

I liked Dallas. I loved the BBQ.

Brisket bun at Fort Worth, but Chris has got tons better texas bbq pictures.

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Madison has one awesome BBQ place. You can tell it's awesome from the website: http://www.smokyjons.com/Beware%20of%20Imposters.htm

Everyone who doesn't vote CAROLINAZ is going to be hunted down and made into BBQ by yours truly.

am the only person i know who liked dallas.

I loved Dallas when I lived there. You have to know where to go to avoid the crap.

Last time I ate at Salt Lick's I nearly suffered a family style death.

what is this BBQ ribs shit. PULLED PORK OR DIE.

omg whatevs

omg whatevs

OTM ribs 4-ever

NoMiss/Memphis pulled pork >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carolinas

eat me, you fuc

whoa. BBQ getting folks worked up. I've enjoyed my fair share of Carolina, (And KC & TX) But I gotta go with M.E.M.P.H.I.S.

Hot chicken, on the other hand, is the shit.

prince's.

NoMiss/Memphis pulled pork >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carolinas

that's because molasses >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinegar.

Shasta I hope a shark eats you.

now I want shark bbq

When I was living in the Delta, I did a review for an organizational newsletter of about 20 or so Q spots, from The Cozy Corner to Rob's Ribs just outside of Leland, to Armstrong's in West Helena, etc. Never has gaining 15-20 pounds been so damn enjoyable.

Carolina Q can suck one pig's foot. Wait...give me back that pig's foot.

Kevin, Prince's is hands down, the best, but there's this place in North Nashville called "400 Degree Chicken" which is a close contender. Also, it's not filled with frightened hipsters ("uhh, where do we sit?"), drawn there by the Yo La Tengo song, and most recently, a piece on "The Splendid Table" which made Lynn Rosetto-Casper drool.

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thx i will seek out

This is the kind of contentiousness that ilx needs. I kicked a drunk woman out of my hotel for calling barbecue faggy.

ooh yeah, someone brought a huge tin of Dreamland ribs back across state lines when I was working down in Forrest, MS. 2.5 hours old and lukewarm at best and they were still pretty friggin tasty

Damn, my wife is gone all day in the truck and there's no cue within walking distance. :-(((((

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someday.

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The best BBQ I've ever had is at Bruno's BBQ in Scotts Valley, CA.

Also: this is hilarious.

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old local bb

From your user talk page, I can see that you have already had disagreements with at least two other users because you chose to impose American English on the Bakeware article.

I was hoping this poll was just gonna be YES/YES NOW.

To quote the poet kj: "Fuck y'all bitches, I'm from Texas"

best bbq in the world

honestly guys i have no idea what the regional differences between bbqs are.

however, my friend is making a SMOKER this summer in his backyard, :D

lol. have you heard Sultanic Verses yet? (I haven't)

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lol. have you heard Sultanic Verses yet? (I haven't)

i've heard snippets, not the whole thing. i've ordered mine from itr, just waiting for it to be delivered.

honestly guys i have no idea what the regional differences between bbqs are.

oic

(nb I have never tried the mustard-based sauces that apparently exist in some parts of South Carolina but I will allow for the possibility that they are delicious)

u ignorant

there's a place in Mem that offers the mustard sauce option and it is pretty yummy.

i'm an old school dry-rub man myself. Too much sauce is for n00bs.

'sauce'?

the salt lick is awesome, went there back in march. i hear there's a place in lockhart that's even better tho.

really, no owensboro in this poll, no credibility.

okay, someone recommend me a good barbecue place in SC and I will try to make it down there this summer. Columbia is about 4 hours away, Charleston 4.5, I have never been to either but I think I would like Charleston more so I don't mind the extra driving.

snowy, where you at? research triangle?

yeah, durham

(chapel hill in the fall though -- lol college)

Lexington, NC has good BBQ.

any place in particular you recommend? I have always tried to avoid western NC barbecue but I might as well give it a shot; as long as they're still combining pulled pork with vinegar, adding some tomato to the mix can't do that much harm

I know this will sound like blasphemy, but Western New York has this amazing bbq sensation known as Chiavetta's. It's this fantastic vinegary marinade that is delicious. It's totally a regional thing, but can be found at every 4th of July picnic and every church's chicken dinner (my grandparents always made sure to get a half chicken).

I would fly to Dallas again, just to eat my way through the menu here:

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BOOOOOOOOOOOO

As a former resident of both N. Carolina and Texas, I feel qualified to attest that teh pig is superior to teh cow. End of story.

i'm currently enjoying the fruits (porks?) of the backyard smoker. yum.

TEXAS MUTHAFUCKA THAT'S WHERE I STAY

Ben's Barbecue beckons me.

But I just had leftovers for lunch, so maybe another time.

CAROLINAS BITCHES RUB AND SMOKE IT YUMMERS

How do you feel about Ruby's? If you're up for it we need to hit it up sometime.

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Smoked pork ribs are TRANSPENDANT.

Re: Charleston, I remember going to a place called Sticky Fingers (or something like that) and loving it. I was also ten years old, though.

I found their website...It looks like they've won a number ofawards, too.

I need to build a smokebox and conduit for my grill. I would also like to get a gas grill to go with the charcoal grill, but that may be pushing it a little.

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I'd hit it.

srsly

Oh, I'm sad I missed this poll. Carolina for me. Lots of vinegar.

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guys i just went out and got bbq because of this thread. carolina-style pulled pork. teh best french fries ever with homemade ketchup and garlic aioli (lol california).

Eastern NC BBQ. I'm hoping all you people talking about "North Carolina BBQ" are talking about Eastern and not that Western NC stuff. Those people can take their sweet ketchup goop to Tennessee, as far as I care. And the South Carolina stuff with the mustard sauce? WTF, fellow Carolinians?

So yeah I'm back in NC for the month and I've yet to get on that list of local restaurants I've gotta hit. I already have plans to go to the beach and intend to find that King's place you told me about, snowy, and get that "Pig in a Puppy" BBQ in a hushpuppy hotdog bun thing... oh yes.

I was at my family reunion in South Carolina over Memorial Day weekend... You want some good BBQ, hoo boy, talk to any of my great-uncles.

Oh hi! I was just coming here to sing the praises of EASTERN NC BBQ.

When I visited Charlotte last year I was very sad to discover that they are not so big on Eastern style, but instead use that sweet thick sauce (I'm looking at you, TX and W. NC) or a spicy sort of vinegary sauce.

One thing I am a little unclear on--"Lexington" and "Eastern" are synonymous, right? (despite Lexington being in the center of the state).

You can't imagine my disappointment when I saw "pulled pork" on a menu here in Chicago and it came out smothered in sweet, smoky, thick buncha mess....I should have known.

nah, I think you've got it exactly backwords:

A word here about the sauce. There are two different styles of North Carolina Barbecue, Eastern and Western. In both cases the sauce is a vinegar-based concoction, heavily seasoned; the largest difference is that the Western, or Lexington style of barbecue adds a small amount of tomato-base to the sauce, and also roasts pork shoulders in preference to the whole hog. That's it. That's the difference. Yet these tiny differences have caused near blood feuds between proponents of the two different styles. In both cases the vinegar base is augmented by a variety of secret herbs and spices – some favorites are salt, pepper, red pepper, cayenne pepper, onion powder, garlic, nutmeg, molasses, whiskey, and brown sugar. The specific potion is often a closely held secret, or varies depending on the ingredients at hand, but the sauce is thin, unlike most commercial tomato-based barbecue sauces. No roaster in their right mind would put that sweet, ketchupy stuff on a perfectly good pig.

heh, I was just about to quote that entire passage too. The "other messages have been posted" thing stopped me.

Western = Lexington = got 'Maters in it. Bleh.

Eastern = Vinegar + spices = The Truth.

In North Carolina you don't have to register or tag a towed pig cooker with the DMV unless you transport something in it, like a pig.

How far reaching are pig pickins?

I can't believe that the best BBQ in the world got the same number of votes as Korea!

That's gotta be because there's not enough mid-Americans here to represent KC, but I'm serious: this isn't even a contest. You like pork? KC does it, and it's fantastic (yes, even pulled). This is pork so smooth it makes foie gras seem like wood. You like brisket? KC does it, both the tender-as-butter inner stuff, and burnt ends, the zenith of 'cue. You like ribs? KC does it. Heck, at arguably the top place in KC, LC's, you can even get shrimp...and this is a place with bars on the window, a deer's head on the wall, and the only visual art on the wall...a signed Aerosmith pic. Well, that's Carolina, Texas, and Memphis all met.

And this isn't even to get into the matter of sauce (so we can meet the Texans on their own terms).

About the only things you can't get is pig snoots (but you can get those three hours east, so no biggie), and mutton, for which a yearly pilgrimage to Moonlite in Owensboro KY is enough.

Eastern = Vinegar + spices = The Truth.

All has become clear. I think I'm confused because I lived in Greensboro which is very close to Lexington, but the Gboro BBQ scene was dominated by the Eastern style.

Best thing about NC is the BBQ. That's where I learned the term "pig-pickin'."

PIG PICKIN.

Also western NC style all the way baby, although eastern is good too. I can only assume Texas beat Carolina because of all the ignorant yankees up in here. ;)

Euler, where do you like in KC? How does Gates stack up?

I feel such sorrow for vegetarians when I think how daily they willingly miss out on the joys of pigs. Pulled pork, bacon, pepperoni--those are the Trinity from whom I can never turn away.

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Gates is fantastic. If I were bringing a new visitor to KC to just one place, it would be Arthur Bryant's, though, for the atmosphere, and the legend, I guess. After that I'd go to LCs if I were near the city center (pork or burnt ends are great, and the best fries on Earth), or Oklahoma Joe's in KC KS (esp. for the Z-Man, a brisket sandwich with smoked mozzerella and onion rings). I have a soft spot (ok, after living near KC a while several soft spots) for Jones' in KC KS, and tend to go there now when I'm in town, but I wouldn't go there as a first-time visitor to the city, prob., just b/c there's so many other places to go first.

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Ruby's BBQ is legend. I used to go there twice a week, when I lived nearby.

(originally posted on the Chicago thread, where the conversation has turned to all things porky)

OK, I'm confused. I think I have to take this to the BBQ thread.....

From Stamey's website: "The entrepreneur of Lexington-style, Stamey is now synonymous with great barbecue."

But Stamey's sauce is vinegary and spicy with zero tomato or sweetness.

Also:

"Today, Stamey’s has been serving its staple “Lexington-style” barbecue pork and its “secret sauce” to Triad diners for 66 years. "

But it is definitely 100% true to the Eastern NC style!! Now you understand my cornfusion??

I can't believe that the best BBQ in the world got the same number of votes as Korea!

does not compute, redundancy

Food Wars: Barbecue is on the Travel Channel right now.

wellz I am biased but Texas b/c we stick to the runny/vinagery ethic (as opposed to thick & sweet). it's really more about the sauce than the meat *ducks salvo of revolver fire*

Uh, NC just lost the show's tasting competition... but all the judges were fatass cowboy wannabes in hats and boots and there were yellow, treeless mountains in the background so I'm calling shenanigans.

how was the trip, Kerm?

(thread revival inspired by a lunch of delicious Q Shack leftovers (don't worry, I had the brisket; wouldn't dream of going there for pulled pork))

There is a great place in Knoxville called Leo's Pulled Pig that I would argue has the best bbq in the south.

and i say that even though they have a pro-life sign attached to the wall. somehow i can ignore that to taste this fucking super bbq.

oh man i think i'm going to go here for lunch. totally bourgie but i could eat the "back porch" sauce all day.

lol @ ironing of place called "leo's pulled pig" w/ pro-life sign

The Brick Pit in Mobile was right next door to the record store/coffee shop I worked in some years ago. It was really good.

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The sign out front has that picture of a pig with a napkin around his next, like he's about to eat...himself?

friend made carolina stylez pulled pork in a smoker this weekend.....SO FUCKING GOOD

we need to do an nyc ilx hill country trip soon.

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dinosaur bbq 12th ave & 132 st

YESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYES

original dinosaur bbq in syracuse = half of my college experience

that dinosaur bbq is awes

i made fake bbq yesterday - braised pork ribs finished on the grill. thay were yum.

i don't know if there's enough of a taste-difference not to do ribs this way in a crunch. see also kebab.

oh god i have only been to the rochester one but even that was a+

some day i will venture up to harlem for some nostalgia.

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Big fan of BAR B-Q in vaguely Park Slope/Sunset Park. 21st St & 6th Ave. Cheap. Monday nights FREE BOURBON OF THE WEEK 7-9. Some of the best wings evar. Huge & meaty, smoked and then smothered in Frank's-based sauce. Deeeeeefuckinglicious. Cheap also!

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oh man my favorite thing at fette sau is the pastrami. and the beans.

and bar-b-q is really good, if kind of greasy. the wings were the best part.

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Yeah the pastrami at Fette Sau is the best. The squishy rolls there are really good for making little bbq sandwiches with.

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I missed Bernard's revive up there. I'm back in NC for the Winter/Spring. I had BBQ in Durham just last Friday and our waitress looked like a teenage Giada de Laurentiis in Tina Fey glasses.

is that sau in yr pocket or are u just happy to see me.

one day i will do this - http://www.texasbbqtrail.com/

FETTE SAU SECRET: POCKET THE SAUSAGES( WRAPPED IN THE WAX PAPER) FOR A QUICK MEAL ON THE GO.

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Haven't done this in a while.

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oh man i know that guy lol. looks great!

i really do want to open a bbq restaurant in my hood. it would make a fucking killing, with a big patio & a nice beer & bourbon selection, mmmm.

World Championship Barbeque Cooking Contest is this weekend. downtown is going to smell ridic

i'm vv curious about what sort of vinyl they'll be stocking at that place

bbq places in l.a. are hit-or-miss bigtime; most of them are just "passable." the best ribs i've had were still at this non-bbq joint called Animal, where the meat literally just slipped off the bone at the merest touch.

i like zeke's in west hollywood even though it's completely bourgie. wasn't wowed by baby blues bbq the one time i went, but they did have this very good housemade pepper-infused vinegar that mixed well with the bottle of hot sauce that was sitting next to it. i would go back just to guzzle that.

(make mine eastern NC pulled pork/vinegar/slaw, please, maybe some sweet potato fries on the side)

i hear good things about the boneyard bistro in sherman oaks, but i've never been.

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mmm fette sau. Pork Ribs and six point beer = bond with father in law.

fwiw I thought pork ribs > brisket > pulled pork. Sauces all very good. Beans awesome.