Anyway, as imdb says, a man whose brain becomes magnetized unintentionally destroys every tape in his friend's video store. In order to satisfy the store's most loyal renter, an aging woman with signs of dementia, the two men set out to remake the lost films, which include Back to the Future, The Lion King, and Robocop.
Pictures of Jack Black on set. Is that Back to the Future Part 3?
― Alba (Alba), Monday, 30 October 2006 10:37 (nineteen years ago)
it has been discused, can't remember where.
― benrique (Enrique), Monday, 30 October 2006 10:42 (nineteen years ago)
And then there's Master Of Space And Time. I'm so into the future right now.
― Alba (Alba), Monday, 30 October 2006 10:50 (nineteen years ago)
i have my doubts that 'master' will happen...
― benrique (Enrique), Monday, 30 October 2006 11:03 (nineteen years ago)
― polar bear flashback episode (nickalicious), Monday, 30 October 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)
― Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Monday, 30 October 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)
Um, exactly when is this film set? Does this place sell 8-tracks as well?
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 30 October 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)
x-post
― Alba (Alba), Monday, 30 October 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 00:47 (nineteen years ago)
― manute lol (sanskrit), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 02:42 (nineteen years ago)
― researching ur life (grady), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 02:47 (nineteen years ago)
― gear (gear), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 02:55 (nineteen years ago)
― chaki (chaki), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 03:00 (nineteen years ago)
This movie is going to be awesome. Has anybody seen it - or even a trailer for it - yet?
http://www.director-file.com/gondry/bekind-pic1.jpg
― nickalicious, Monday, 4 June 2007 14:02 (nineteen years ago)
Hey, I didn't know Mos Def was in this - awesome!
I hated Science of Sleep, which was sad cause I really loved Eternal Sunshine.
― Roz, Monday, 4 June 2007 14:33 (nineteen years ago)
The trailer's up on Yahoo. It looks absolutely brilliant:
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809761737/video/3631941/
― Bill A, Thursday, 9 August 2007 08:56 (eighteen years ago)
Terribly choppy streaming. Boo yahoo.
― StanM, Thursday, 9 August 2007 09:04 (eighteen years ago)
Really? No problems at all when I watched it again two mins ago...am on a very fast connection though.
― Bill A, Thursday, 9 August 2007 09:23 (eighteen years ago)
Poor streaming, shitty sound.
― G00blar, Thursday, 9 August 2007 09:26 (eighteen years ago)
Ah, Melonie Diaz. Now we're talking!
― Pete, Thursday, 9 August 2007 10:23 (eighteen years ago)
that looks awesome. can't wait.
― ^@^, Thursday, 9 August 2007 11:46 (eighteen years ago)
I LOL'd at Jack Black's Boyz N the Hood wig.
― jaymc, Thursday, 9 August 2007 13:12 (eighteen years ago)
WHAT'S HAPPENING TO OUR HOOD
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 15:35 (eighteen years ago)
Hey, this movie was filmed in the shithole city that's right next to the even bigger shithole city I was born in. Gotta see that.
― uhrrrrrrr10, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 15:37 (eighteen years ago)
Science of Sleep was snorezville and Jack Black is hit-or-miss but still.... I have high hopes
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 15:43 (eighteen years ago)
traielr is very funny. the gag that they don't remember the movies properly is really good.
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 15:44 (eighteen years ago)
"when you're walking down the street... and you see a little ghost..."
Paul Dinello!
Looks very non-Gondry like (no evidence of whimsy or emoness) and amusing!
― n/a, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 15:49 (eighteen years ago)
OMG
― Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 16:02 (eighteen years ago)
that keeps being in my head
"whatcha gonna do about ghostbuuuusters??"
― RJG, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 16:03 (eighteen years ago)
however all the crowd protest scene stuff kinda portends a lousy last half
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 16:04 (eighteen years ago)
when is this out...?
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 16:08 (eighteen years ago)
Gondry and I have a mutual friend... last time I talked to him he told me Be Kind Rewind has a brief scene built around this kitchen cleaning tool I gave him. I can't wait to see if the scene made the final cut (he could also have just been fucking with me).
Also, Paul Dinello is in it? That is EXCELLENT news.
― Jon Lewis, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 16:08 (eighteen years ago)
lol that is the most bizarre namedrop ever
― dmr, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 16:12 (eighteen years ago)
I know. But I'm going to be really proud if my stainless-steel dish brush makes it onto the int'l screen as a symbol of modernity or whatever!
― Jon Lewis, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 16:14 (eighteen years ago)
or as a light-saber
― dmr, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 16:16 (eighteen years ago)
Paul Dinello is in the preview, looks like he's the bad guy government agent.
― n/a, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 16:17 (eighteen years ago)
hahahaha xpost
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 16:25 (eighteen years ago)
-- n/a, Wednesday, August 15, 2007 4:17 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
i wonder how much this movie will actually echo ghostbusters
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)
this movie looks great.
― kenan, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 16:56 (eighteen years ago)
why doesn't jb's magnetized head erase all the tapes that they make???
― mizzell, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 17:46 (eighteen years ago)
they shoot to dvd-r?
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)
why does jack black have to be in this.
also the science of sleep was not snoresville, you fucks.
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Wednesday, 15 August 2007 17:52 (eighteen years ago)
what year is this movie supposed to take place in? the most recent thing they feature is Rush Hour 2... were there still all-vhs stores in 2002? I can't remember.
― kenan, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 17:53 (eighteen years ago)
xpost I have not yet seen a Gondry movie I didn't love at least a little.
i will still be doing this on december 21 but my god i hate jack black
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Wednesday, 15 August 2007 17:56 (eighteen years ago)
ned's kenan's just pointed out the one unbelievable thing in gondry's ouevre!
-- s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 00:47 (9 months ago) Link
― Alba, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 17:58 (eighteen years ago)
there was a Time Before DVD, you know. I was there!
― kenan, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 18:00 (eighteen years ago)
That time was not 2002.
― Alba, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 18:01 (eighteen years ago)
hey guys guess what??
in a lot of little local-owned rental places, like the one obviously depicted in the trailer, there are STILL vhs cassette tapes available in them!!! i know this is amazing in this day and age, much like fax machines, but they are still there, existing, on shelves.
i mean, if realism is what you are looking for in your gondry films, that is.
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Wednesday, 15 August 2007 18:03 (eighteen years ago)
I think he was talking about stores that had only VHS.
― Alba, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 18:06 (eighteen years ago)
i don't see why anyone is under the impression that this particular store in the film only has vhs. if, say, all of the vhs at kim's suddenly demagnetized they'd have a shit ton of lost business.
BUT LOL WILLING SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF ANYWAY ETC ETC wtf why are you people picking apart the vhs and not the fact that jack fucking black is in this movie with his d isgusting putrid face and his horrible voice and his unfunny everything?
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Wednesday, 15 August 2007 18:07 (eighteen years ago)
i mean seriously there are bigger potential complaints here than the idea that maybe they wouldn't care so much about losing vhs.
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Wednesday, 15 August 2007 18:08 (eighteen years ago)
my neighborhood video store was predominantly VHS just 5 years ago - FACT
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 18:09 (eighteen years ago)
I don't think I even owned a DVD player 5 years ago
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 18:10 (eighteen years ago)
I'm with you! I think!
Hey Ally - you might appreciate this excerpt from the imdb message board for Gondry's next film Master Of Space And Time:
WHY IS JACK BLACK NO LONGER ON THE CAST LIST!?!?!?! by fenster89 (Tue Mar 7 2006 13:55:08)
What's the deal?...now it says Gael???!!!!
He's taken off his shoes and one of his socks and... actually, I think he's crying.
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Re: WHY IS JACK BLACK NO LONGER ON THE CAST LIST!?!?!?! by imwithavril2000 (Fri Mar 10 2006 05:08:34)
I THINK THAT GAEL GARCIA IS A REALLY GOOD ACTOR. I DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT J. BLACK. HE'S A PATHETIC FAT MAN.
― Alba, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 18:11 (eighteen years ago)
don't worry, soon enough Jack Black will take his place in the hallowed pantheon of Dead Fat Actors
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 18:12 (eighteen years ago)
Dead Fat Actors Comedians, rather
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 18:13 (eighteen years ago)
PATHETIC FAT MEN
― Alba, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 18:13 (eighteen years ago)
shakey mo, bringin the inappropriate death pool jokes.
/makin cooooopieeees guy
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 18:47 (eighteen years ago)
hey don't blame me cuz American has a love/hate relationship with fat "funny" guys prone to self-destructive behavior and dying young
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 18:56 (eighteen years ago)
2001-02 was the breakout year for dvd. the independent place i used back then was predominantly vhs and obviously most places' back catalogue (ie 'ghostbusters') was vhs at that point.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 19:01 (eighteen years ago)
Jack Black is not partic. fat next to Belushi/Farley.
― Jon Lewis, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 19:02 (eighteen years ago)
nor nearly as self-destructive, from what I can tell
― kenan, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 19:02 (eighteen years ago)
O RLY
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f2/Belushi_in_Animal_House.jpg/170px-Belushi_in_Animal_House.jpg vs. http://www.adorocinema.com/personalidades/atores/jack-black/jack-black01.jpg
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 19:07 (eighteen years ago)
why are you such a dick
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 19:17 (eighteen years ago)
I wasn't aware that I was being a dick, sorry - I didn't know it was a "dick move" to point out obvious similarities between the careers of various comic actors
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 19:21 (eighteen years ago)
it is a dick move to gleefully wish for people to die.
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 19:23 (eighteen years ago)
I didn't wish for his death wtf learn to read
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 19:24 (eighteen years ago)
pointing out that a hyperactive fat man that likes to party isn't liable to live all that long /= wishing for his death
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 19:25 (eighteen years ago)
what do you have against dead people shakey mo
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 19:25 (eighteen years ago)
1. what makes you think he's a mega-partier/substance addict 2. he's not even that fat 3. smugly predicting anyone's death is always a dick move, whether you wish for it to occur or not
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 19:34 (eighteen years ago)
people die, get over it
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 19:38 (eighteen years ago)
you're a dick.
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)
get over it!
― jeff, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 20:01 (eighteen years ago)
lol vhs this movie sucks is jack black dead yet
― marmotwolof, Thursday, 16 August 2007 02:33 (eighteen years ago)
No, I just saw the trailer on G4 and it looks funny.
The movie part looks good, and I'm pretty excited to see Jack Black and Mos Def as a duo.
if, say, all of the vhs at kim's suddenly demagnetized they'd have a shit ton of lost business.
really? I work at TLA in Philly, which serves the same kinda crowd, and if our videos disappeared tomorrow, we wouldn't lose much at all. We only keep out of print shit in stock, I'd assume Kim's is the same.
That said, suspension of disbelief and all of that, though all they gotta do is put the words "1997" in the first scene and its all good.
― da croupier, Thursday, 16 August 2007 04:48 (eighteen years ago)
The fake movie part, I mean.
― da croupier, Thursday, 16 August 2007 04:50 (eighteen years ago)
it isn't set in 1997
― RJG, Thursday, 16 August 2007 07:55 (eighteen years ago)
“I’m writing a story about kids who invent a water that makes you hear music when you drink it,”
― Alba, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:03 (eighteen years ago)
The trailer looked great!
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:04 (eighteen years ago)
“It’s going to be a scientific story, but completely unrealistic.”
o_O
― Autumn Almanac, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:11 (eighteen years ago)
filmed in my home town! i signed up to be an extra in the film, but they were filming the scene on the day i was going on vacation. some of the cast came to read to the kids in the schools in town though, which was pretty cool.
― miryam, Sunday, 6 January 2008 06:21 (eighteen years ago)
this does look interesting. when does it come out?
― amateurist, Sunday, 6 January 2008 06:23 (eighteen years ago)
imminently.
it's very good.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Sunday, 6 January 2008 10:49 (eighteen years ago)
-- BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, August 15, 2007 3:35 PM
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 6 January 2008 11:02 (eighteen years ago)
seems like most viewers/critics who saw the early screening agree it's a flop. oh well..
― Zeno, Monday, 11 February 2008 23:32 (eighteen years ago)
The previews looked horrible - I'm surprised at all the positive anticipating going on in this thread.
― Jeff LeVine, Monday, 11 February 2008 23:40 (eighteen years ago)
maybe expecting the niceness of "eternal sunshine" again?
― Zeno, Monday, 11 February 2008 23:42 (eighteen years ago)
this viewer/critic who saw the early screening thought it was good. it's a kind of alternative history of cinema, a remake of 'le crime de monsieur lange', and also a lolsy thing in itself. shitload better than 'science of sleep'. and the most left-wing film of the year to boot. which critics have hated on it?
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 11 February 2008 23:43 (eighteen years ago)
it's nicer than 'eternal sunshine' -- which is maybe its only flaw. (gondry: still weird about girls.)
"which critics have hated on it?" check out imdb and rottentomatoes. anyway, get ready for 2009: "Master of Space and Time " new Gondry film about "Two mad scientists discover a way to control reality"
― Zeno, Monday, 11 February 2008 23:45 (eighteen years ago)
from a book by Rudy Rucker which i never heard of
― Zeno, Monday, 11 February 2008 23:47 (eighteen years ago)
yeah i'm stoked for that too tho gondry needs a writer.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 11 February 2008 23:49 (eighteen years ago)
no-one i've heard of has reviewed it yet. i think it'll get middling-to-good reviews.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 11 February 2008 23:51 (eighteen years ago)
lol
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=26893092
― max, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 22:57 (eighteen years ago)
I WANT IT TO BE NEXT WEEKEND NOW
― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 17 February 2008 22:03 (eighteen years ago)
"which critics have hated on it?" check out imdb and rottentomatoes.
response seems largely positive? meh.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 17 February 2008 22:23 (eighteen years ago)
Whole family's going to see this next week we're giddy as fuck
― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 17 February 2008 22:24 (eighteen years ago)
boo @ this movie.
― s1ocki, Monday, 18 February 2008 17:37 (eighteen years ago)
it's like michel gondry's heartwarming tribute to the creativity, passion, ingenuity and community spirt of... michel gondry.
― s1ocki, Monday, 18 February 2008 17:38 (eighteen years ago)
That's good enough for me.
― ledge, Monday, 18 February 2008 22:20 (eighteen years ago)
**mild spoilers**
Saw a UK preview of this last night and would say it's a modest delight. Obviously, the trailer spunks a couple of the best gags (Ghostbusters, "What's happening to our hood?!") so I was surprised when the first half hour was deliriously funny in its own right, well before any "sweding" takes place. There's one particular visual gag (the chain link fence) which had me pretty much roffling uncontrollably, and is *pure* Gondry.
I'd echo the comment upthread that Gondry really does need a writer, or at least a co-writer, because the funny stuff is very much a product of his visual genius and not down to the script (although there are a few very good throwaway lines and the ensemble has a nice natural feel to it). The whole VHS vs DVD issue is set out very early on and makes perfect sense in context, in fact a latter part of the plot hinges on the pressure to "upgrade".
So whilst it's not a very ambitious film it has a pretty convincingly good hearted centre and was a lot of fun to watch. If Gondry's general style appeals then I'd recommend it.
― Bill A, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 08:48 (eighteen years ago)
I saw the ads for this on tv and it looked so cheesy! I had no idea Michel Gondry had anything to do with it.
― Nicole, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 13:58 (eighteen years ago)
It looks a bit like a one-joke SNL sketch-based flick.
― Hurting 2, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 14:13 (eighteen years ago)
that's what the ads concentrate on, but it ain't like that.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 14:16 (eighteen years ago)
If only current day SNL put this much effort into their writing.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 14:17 (eighteen years ago)
-- s1ocki, Monday, February 18, 2008 5:38 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link
there's a lot of truth in this, but he's trying to be nice and say hey, with the youtubes everyone could be as awesome as me, kind of thing.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 14:18 (eighteen years ago)
this movie was filmed in beautiful Passaic, NJ, the neighbor city to the bigger shithole city I was born in. That's why I'll see it.
― burt_stanton, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 14:22 (eighteen years ago)
if the film is Gondry self-love over Jack Black vehicle then that might be enough for me (not liking JB and really put off by his presence)
― blueski, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 14:26 (eighteen years ago)
Fat Tony Lane hates it! http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/cinema/2008/02/25/080225crci_cinema_lane?currentPage=2
― Stevie T, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 14:29 (eighteen years ago)
so if I loved Science of Sleep will I like this?
― Thomas, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 14:32 (eighteen years ago)
to enjoy this you have to get past the OMG VIDEOS??!! stage right quick. also you have to find the spoofs funny, which i did, mostly. lane doesn't: probably not a big ghostbusters guy, really.
desperate bid to seduce the YouTube generation.
i think it's actually a parable of early (pre-1910s) filmmaking. but lol what do i care, tony tone likes 'cinema paradiso'. this film is closer to 'le crime de monsieur lang' (may have already said this).
xpost
ugh, hate that movie.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 14:36 (eighteen years ago)
the spoofs are the best part. but they're like 15 minutes of the movie. i thought the first hour was terrible. totally unfunny.
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 14:53 (eighteen years ago)
it's definitely gondry patting himself on the back the same way science of sleep is.
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 14:54 (eighteen years ago)
But if I liked the Science of Sleep would I like this?
― Nicole, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 16:06 (eighteen years ago)
if i hated science of sleep, would i like this?
― Jordan, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 16:08 (eighteen years ago)
if i didnt see science of sleep would i like this?
― jhøshea, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 16:09 (eighteen years ago)
If I mildly enjoyed The Science of Sleep and Gondry in general but that's about it, etc.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 16:11 (eighteen years ago)
i hated SoS, liked this. but i think people who liked SoS, will also like this.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 18:10 (eighteen years ago)
I dislike Michel Gondry as much as the next guy but this was really quite good!
― czn, Saturday, 23 February 2008 19:33 (eighteen years ago)
Going tomorrow!
― Noodle Vague, Saturday, 23 February 2008 19:33 (eighteen years ago)
I have to keep gently telling the kids that it won't be all "lol Ghostbusters song".
― Noodle Vague, Saturday, 23 February 2008 19:34 (eighteen years ago)
The first zing was Melissa W zinging guitars when discussing Bombs Over Baghdad:
Still like it except for the dreadful guitars.
-- Melissa W, Tuesday, May 22, 2001 1:00 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark Link
― Mr. ILX, Saturday, 23 February 2008 19:42 (eighteen years ago)
RONG THREAD DUDE
― Noodle Vague, Saturday, 23 February 2008 19:50 (eighteen years ago)
science of sleep was so fucking bad
― gbx, Saturday, 23 February 2008 19:54 (eighteen years ago)
Alright, who is this guy that likes something and what have you lot done with Enriquit?
― the next grozart, Saturday, 23 February 2008 20:29 (eighteen years ago)
I liked them both. Actually I really liked SoS, probably slightly more than this but this was great. In fact I don't think I've actually enjoyed being in a cinema this much in quite a while. I loved the chaos of it all. Or the seeming chaos anyway.
― Ned Trifle II, Saturday, 23 February 2008 20:35 (eighteen years ago)
Why do people hate Gondry even when they haven't seem his films?
― Ned Trifle II, Saturday, 23 February 2008 20:36 (eighteen years ago)
Why can't a woman be more like a man?
― Noodle Vague, Saturday, 23 February 2008 20:43 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3efIawOBpw
― Tape Store, Saturday, 23 February 2008 21:04 (eighteen years ago)
Except that sweded films aren't shot for shot remakes. That's what makes them fun!
― Ned Trifle II, Saturday, 23 February 2008 21:08 (eighteen years ago)
-- Ned Trifle II, Saturday, 23 February 2008 20:36 (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
-- Noodle Vague, Saturday, 23 February 2008 20:43 (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
I mean, has he done something terrible that i've missed. Rather than films.
― Ned Trifle II, Saturday, 23 February 2008 21:09 (eighteen years ago)
Michel Gondry I have seen: Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, The Science of Sleep, Be Kind Rewind, plus a whole bunch of internet videos and music videos.
― czn, Saturday, 23 February 2008 21:53 (eighteen years ago)
i liked this. i thought it worked in spite of its glaring flaws (i.e. awkward pacing, sloppy-as-fuck editing, a bit syrupy towards the end).
― latebloomer, Sunday, 24 February 2008 22:08 (eighteen years ago)
-- s1ocki, Tuesday, February 19, 2008 2:54 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark Link
i didn't get that from this at all.
― latebloomer, Sunday, 24 February 2008 22:12 (eighteen years ago)
pretty much all brit critics ignore the fats waller/community filmmaking stuff and concentrate on the lol 'rush hour' bidnizz.
the end is syrupy, but i will keep at this, it's syrupy in a renoir way.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Sunday, 24 February 2008 22:12 (eighteen years ago)
i'm so happy it's shitty in a way that reminds you of way better movies.
― s1ocki, Sunday, 24 February 2008 22:16 (eighteen years ago)
i mean you could just as easily say it's syrupy in a "every 80s movie about saving the community centre" way but i guess that doesn't have the same ring as renoir.
― s1ocki, Sunday, 24 February 2008 22:17 (eighteen years ago)
also i doubt renoir would ever end a movie with everyone in a town wildly applauding and cheering for a renoir movie. ugh.
― s1ocki, Sunday, 24 February 2008 22:18 (eighteen years ago)
The "yay community" bits seemed a bit tacked on, I don't see what's so bad about the simple premise of needing to correct mistakes, race against time, home-made attempts to do this. Mos Def was so charming in this, I thought. Bit weird pacing though and I wanted more movie stuff focussing on the random bits that people remember. But there's a website to see those. Didn't think it was overly Gondry-y indulgy at all.
― Not the real Village People, Sunday, 24 February 2008 22:44 (eighteen years ago)
In his Observer review today, the great 'Brit crit' Phillip French calls this "a sentimental embarrassment" and notes that Fats Waller "had nothing to do with Passaic". He goes on to add that "It's particularly sad that the demoralised citizens of the film's Passaic seem unaware that DW Griffith shot his earlier films in the area and that their town is the setting of a milestone documentary, THE PASSAIC TEXTILE STRIKE, produced by the Communist party in 1926. Kevin Brownlow brough it to the attention of cineastes in BEHIND THE MASK OF INNOCENCE, his great book on films of conscience in the silent era."
― Ward Fowler, Sunday, 24 February 2008 22:57 (eighteen years ago)
ugh
― latebloomer, Sunday, 24 February 2008 22:58 (eighteen years ago)
ha. it is kind of funny and random that they went with fats waller.
― s1ocki, Sunday, 24 February 2008 23:15 (eighteen years ago)
Thoroughly enjoyed this. Sentimental, sure, but I don't think they were going for gritty urban realism duhhhhh.
― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 24 February 2008 23:33 (eighteen years ago)
-- s1ocki, Sunday, February 24, 2008 10:17 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link
yeah i agree, it's also kind of 'batteries not included', but it's also a lot more inventive than that. anyway how could the audience not be applauding a film by gondry? the plot is, the BKR crew make a film and the townspeople see it and applaud. it's no different from the 'arizona jim' stories taking off in renoir -- and his mid-30s films are partly a celebration of the renoir collective, and just as self-flattering if that's how you want to see it.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Sunday, 24 February 2008 23:41 (eighteen years ago)
philip french quotation is o_O. the fats-waller-not-from-passaic thing is kind of obvious within the film itself from the first frame... the other stuff is too random to live.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Sunday, 24 February 2008 23:50 (eighteen years ago)
I lived in beautiful Passaic, NJ, between a synagogue and the punk clothing store, for 4 years.
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 25 February 2008 19:10 (eighteen years ago)
That's the alternate opening to Goodfellas I assume.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 February 2008 19:11 (eighteen years ago)
i loved it. i dunno why every single critic has ignored the fact that this is, by and large, an african-american movie.
― YGS, Monday, 25 February 2008 19:13 (eighteen years ago)
you guys aren't really talking about Jean Renoir, are you?
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 25 February 2008 19:13 (eighteen years ago)
i am, yeah.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 25 February 2008 20:32 (eighteen years ago)
i mean, if that's *particularly outlandish*, do say, but a lot of guff builds up around the old masters, as if they were working in an entirely different medium. i think you could compare jack black with michel simon, gondry's videos with 'charleston', stuff like that. i'm not saying gondry has made a 'rules of the game' yet; i don't think he will, either, and two of his films are godawful. but 'BKR', to my mind, has a lot more to do with poetic realism -- ie populist french cinema -- than with gondry's peers.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 25 February 2008 20:40 (eighteen years ago)
i'm saying you wish.
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 02:47 (eighteen years ago)
i think you could compare jack black with michel simon
o_O, especially in this movie.
― C0L1N B..., Tuesday, 26 February 2008 03:21 (eighteen years ago)
i think simon is great in the films i've seen him in (off the top of my head that's 'boudu', 'l'atalante', and 'quai des brumes' then). i also like jack black, mostly, and think they're doing similar work. i'm not seeing transcendent genius in what simon does. i would imagine the large audiences who went to see his films at the time got a comparable pleasure out of simon than modern ones do from jack black too -- obviously i'm hinting here that now that vigo, renoir, and carne are bracketed as "art-house" a certain deference comes into play.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 09:37 (eighteen years ago)
So wait ... according to Phillip French every movie set in Passaic should make reference to THE PASSAIC TEXTILE STRIKE? Or is the real point that every review he writes should make is clear that he is more knowledgable about film than the reader?
― zaxxon25, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 13:16 (eighteen years ago)
So who else had the idea of making a sweded version of BKR itself?
― ledge, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 13:24 (eighteen years ago)
I get that, Nrq, but other than the fact that they're well-liked, comedic actors, what's the comparison? I don't think Simon is some sort of "transcendent genius", but I do think that in the movies you mention, Boudu in particular, he's the most captivating physical presence--it's like every scene organizes itself around him--while in BKR, Black just sort of flatly plays his one character.
― C0L1N B..., Tuesday, 26 February 2008 18:37 (eighteen years ago)
other than the fact that they're well-liked, comedic actors, what's the comparison?
buffoons-who-upset bourgeois mores (in 'school of rock' anyway). i'm not disputing that simon is good at all but don't think the comparison is o_O. JB is a bit tooo subdued in on 'BKR', and in a way i think the film as a whole could have done with some broader touches. still rate it highly tho.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 18:43 (eighteen years ago)
Re: broader touches. Yeah, it's kind of a pity that the film abandons the slapstick/silent comedy riffs that happen in the first third.
― Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 18:57 (eighteen years ago)
-- s1ocki, Wednesday, August 15, 2007 4:04 PM (6 months ago) Bookmark Link
^^^ QFT
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 19:06 (eighteen years ago)
i thought the first hour was terrible. totally unfunny.
-- s1ocki, Tuesday, February 19, 2008 2:53 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Link
The movie is 94 minutes.
― C0L1N B..., Tuesday, 26 February 2008 19:07 (eighteen years ago)
this movie stinks.
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 19:12 (eighteen years ago)
IS MY POINT.
I couldn't tell, you were so vague upthread.
― Nicole, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 19:13 (eighteen years ago)
I thought the Sullivan's Travels thing they were going for at the end nearly made it. And Mia Farrow is a convincing crazy old lady.
B+
― Dr Morbius, Saturday, 12 April 2008 16:56 (eighteen years ago)
that's extremely generous.
― s1ocki, Saturday, 12 April 2008 17:04 (eighteen years ago)
I am exteremely generous, and don't hate humanity like SOME folks.
― Dr Morbius, Saturday, 12 April 2008 17:28 (eighteen years ago)
that's definitely how i would describe you.
― s1ocki, Saturday, 12 April 2008 17:38 (eighteen years ago)
Finally saw this, wanted way more visual whimsy and a little less diegetic whimsy.
― en i see kay, Sunday, 8 June 2008 22:15 (eighteen years ago)
yeah this movie also ruled. the "men in black" bit in the montage is possibly my favorite moment but there's a lot of them. Gondry does a great job of making the whole mess OTT and weird enough that you only really notice that Jack Black is overdoing it on a couple of occasions.
― El Tomboto, Monday, 23 June 2008 20:21 (seventeen years ago)
watched this last night thought it was okay (more enjoyable than Science of Sleep at least). Mostly reminded me of a John Waters movie sans the gross-out gags.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 23 June 2008 21:12 (seventeen years ago)
ha, it is a bit john waters, but I think mos def is more fun/likable than most of (if not all) JW protagonists
― El Tomboto, Monday, 23 June 2008 21:29 (seventeen years ago)
I guess - at the beginning of the film I wasn't sure if he was supposed to be mildly retarded or not ("Keep Jerry Out" note, etc.) But granted MD is just kinda likable in general in a way that a 400-lb sweaty drag queen is not.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 23 June 2008 21:43 (seventeen years ago)
I mainly drew the Waters' comparison because of the rather slapdash approach to pacing and characterization (characters are more like broad gags than actual people), as well as the overall themes of "gang of oddball losers vs. rich uptight assholes", piracy, private mythologies, and the championing of a seemingly nondescript nowheresville (Baltimore vs. Passaic).
or maybe it was cuz earlier that afternoon I stumbled across WGN broadcasting "Polyester"
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 23 June 2008 21:48 (seventeen years ago)
I am kinda with s1ocki about the end though - there was a bit too much of a self-congratulatory air about it
Amiable, but so weightless at times, especially in the second act, that it floats away.
I can listen to Mos Def's crinkly drawl all night.
Mia Farrow's wittingly used.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 23 June 2008 22:54 (seventeen years ago)
ehhh i feel like you're all giving this movie way too much credit on the basis of a couple of clever ideas.
― s1ocki, Monday, 23 June 2008 22:56 (seventeen years ago)
but clever ideas are worth a lot! I would like more movies with clever ideas plz
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 23 June 2008 22:58 (seventeen years ago)
sure... but don't just have one or two and coast the rest of the way
― s1ocki, Monday, 23 June 2008 23:00 (seventeen years ago)
I liked this way more than I expected to, esp. since I pretty much hated science of sleep.
― Simon H., Monday, 23 June 2008 23:01 (seventeen years ago)
-- s1ocki, Monday, June 23, 2008 6:56 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
yah - the plot was mad embarrassing sons
― jhøshea, Monday, 23 June 2008 23:01 (seventeen years ago)
no argument there - the plot was clearly a super-flimsy excuse to make a bunch of goofy genre-excercise movies Gondry-style.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 23 June 2008 23:03 (seventeen years ago)
ghostbusters can hardly be called a genre exercise
― El Tomboto, Monday, 23 June 2008 23:04 (seventeen years ago)
am i right in saying the romantic plot climaxes with the girl... licking jack black's face? gondry needs to man up and stop that shit. but this is a good film.
― banriquit, Monday, 23 June 2008 23:05 (seventeen years ago)
but the sweded movies were like 5 minutes of the whole! xp
― s1ocki, Monday, 23 June 2008 23:05 (seventeen years ago)
Yes, Gondry needs to man up. That's what is needed.
― Alba, Monday, 23 June 2008 23:06 (seventeen years ago)
i was amused by a bunch of stuff but the one part i really lold at was when they were breaking into the power plant and the cops came - lol camo
it was better than i thought - didnt go in expecting much tho
― jhøshea, Monday, 23 June 2008 23:06 (seventeen years ago)
okay yeah "genre-excercise" is not quite the right phrase
lolz "romantic plot". Gondry's totally got some girl issues. It was like he included a woman in the script cuz he felt guilty about making a sausage-fest, and then decided to overcompensate by making her spout "y'all are sexist and don't appreciate me even though I'm smarter than you" sorta lines.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 23 June 2008 23:07 (seventeen years ago)
this was really really funny and I appreciated it cuz in the previous scene I was thinking "what the fuck is wrong with Jack Black's face? Is he burned, or in blackface or what...?"
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 23 June 2008 23:08 (seventeen years ago)
the moustache bit was pretty funny I thought
― El Tomboto, Monday, 23 June 2008 23:09 (seventeen years ago)
yes exactly xp
― jhøshea, Monday, 23 June 2008 23:09 (seventeen years ago)
I had the misfortune to watch Jack Black in this and Margot at the Wedding this weekend.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 23 June 2008 23:09 (seventeen years ago)
though he was alright in this.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 23 June 2008 23:10 (seventeen years ago)
this is a minstrel show
― jeff, Monday, 23 June 2008 23:10 (seventeen years ago)
you should swede margot at the wedding!
― s1ocki, Monday, 23 June 2008 23:10 (seventeen years ago)
omg yesssss
― jhøshea, Monday, 23 June 2008 23:17 (seventeen years ago)
that scene at the end where hes all blubbering and spazzing
― jhøshea, Monday, 23 June 2008 23:18 (seventeen years ago)
s1ocki too wrong about this
― Annoying Display Name (blueski), Sunday, 12 October 2008 01:13 (seventeen years ago)
no.
― s1ocki, Sunday, 12 October 2008 02:16 (seventeen years ago)
someone was trying to sell me on this tonight at a partyi was full of turkeyso i said okay,maybe
― terminator boyfriend (rrrobyn), Sunday, 12 October 2008 06:31 (seventeen years ago)
turkey is the correct word here.
― s1ocki, Sunday, 12 October 2008 06:46 (seventeen years ago)
this movie is so weird.
― horseshoe, Sunday, 12 October 2008 06:56 (seventeen years ago)
this was alright, better than the science of sleeeeeeeep at least.
i don't think gondry will ever make a movie as good as eternal sunshine again but that's totally okay - just bring on the visual gags and try not to overdo the whimsy.
― Disco/Very (Roz), Sunday, 12 October 2008 07:13 (seventeen years ago)
jackblack's character's decision to darken his skin to play fats waller may be the weirdest/dumbest thing about it (would've thought he would've known not to)
i liked this about as much as Eternal Sunshine (and it was maybe funnier). wasn't sure about the ending at first but i like the merging of fiction/reality for the Passaic people - gimmicky but it works.
― Annoying Display Name (blueski), Sunday, 12 October 2008 19:36 (seventeen years ago)
it's weird and flawed but i like it
― Jordan, Sunday, 12 October 2008 19:41 (seventeen years ago)
i couldn't watch this movie. so bad
― jaxon, Sunday, 12 October 2008 19:42 (seventeen years ago)
interesting divergence of opinions here!
I have problems with Eternal Sunshine and kinda hated Science of Sleep...but I adored this. I liked the cast, it's OTT without trying too hard, and it's funny without being jokey. and that gag with the brick and the windows brought down the house with the group i saw it with.
I don't really have a problem with the ending, since it sorta struck me as a fable/wish-fulfillment...and I liked the actors/characters enough to find it very nice. and it's clear that they demolish the building anyway.
― ryan, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 05:16 (seventeen years ago)
and sort of a nice "response" to Science of Sleep since it shows image/fantasy making as a collective enterprise rather than the province of the lonely and desperate.
― ryan, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 05:22 (seventeen years ago)
one day im gonna alternamom out so hard w/this movie
― A B C, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 05:34 (seventeen years ago)
how funny/interesting it would be to have your first exposure of 2001 or Ghostbusters through this movie...
― ryan, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 05:38 (seventeen years ago)
10%
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 05:40 (seventeen years ago)
hahaha....yes everyone knows you hate this movie!
― ryan, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 05:43 (seventeen years ago)
Gondry is a visual genius, no question, but this came across as an empty exercise in formalism - without the sort of heart and soul that, ironically, the movie wanted to address.
― Live from the Witch Trials (SeekAltRoute), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 06:58 (seventeen years ago)
^^Yes, I'm a bitter fan.
this was good enough for me
― akm, Saturday, 17 January 2009 06:30 (seventeen years ago)
so much better than at least 3 of the films that will be Oscar nominated
― Dr Morbius, Saturday, 17 January 2009 20:54 (seventeen years ago)
such trivial garbage
― s1ocki, Saturday, 17 January 2009 21:17 (seventeen years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier
― velko, Saturday, 17 January 2009 21:27 (seventeen years ago)
you're thinking of those apatow films you enjoyed
― Timezilla vs Mechadistance (blueski), Sunday, 18 January 2009 01:00 (seventeen years ago)
lets not do that
this film is fun
― cozwn, Sunday, 18 January 2009 01:30 (seventeen years ago)
Ugh, this is fucking baaaad. Gondry has no business directing feature length films.
― ciara1985 (circa1916), Sunday, 26 April 2009 21:02 (seventeen years ago)
yeah i saw this a wk or 2 ago and i hated it so much and read this thread in disbelief
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 26 April 2009 21:09 (seventeen years ago)
yeah this sucked
― wilter, Monday, 27 April 2009 00:29 (seventeen years ago)
nah it was good
― I'm the head soul brother in the US. Where to now? (bernard snowy), Monday, 27 April 2009 00:29 (seventeen years ago)
I dislike gondry, liked this movie
did I say tht already?
― zinguist (cozwn), Monday, 27 April 2009 01:04 (seventeen years ago)
Don't have much to add that hasn't already been said. Weightless and empty pretty much nail it. The whole thing just sort of floated by. Lots of hollow sentiment. I didn't care about or believe the characters or situations. Mos Def was super bland, don't get the praise here at all. And what was up with the "Keep Jerry Out" thing? The general dopiness of the characters wasn't endearing but kind of fucking annoying and inconsistent.
Guess it comes down to the fact that whole thing is basically a pretty flimsy excuse for Gondry to indulge his Gondryisms and I'm not particularly charmed by his cute and "clever" faux-naive whimsical shtick in the first place, so yeah, Massive Dud.
― I feel a huge onus (circa1916), Monday, 27 April 2009 02:32 (seventeen years ago)
did gondry fuck slockis girl or something?? cant imagine hating this movie that much!!
― fleetwood (max), Friday, 4 September 2009 01:48 (sixteen years ago)
caught like 3/4s of this on tv and i thought it was pretty fun!!!
should have been way more sweded movies way less fats waller obviously
― fleetwood (max), Friday, 4 September 2009 01:49 (sixteen years ago)
it was cute when the girl snuck the Lion King tape into their stack
― god bless this -ation (Abbott), Friday, 4 September 2009 01:52 (sixteen years ago)
this movie is ass... but funny enough as a matter of fact gondry did once hit on a friend of mine's gf... TRUE STORY
― HOOSteen we have a problem (s1ocki), Friday, 4 September 2009 03:01 (sixteen years ago)
badass
― like to see people and animal getting hurt or in troubles (nickalicious), Friday, 4 September 2009 03:11 (sixteen years ago)
i liked this up till the lame-o ending. definitely needed more sweding.
― dj rolando the aztec fish stick (haitch), Friday, 4 September 2009 03:12 (sixteen years ago)
― velko, Saturday, January 17, 2009 1:27 PM
― velko, Friday, 4 September 2009 03:13 (sixteen years ago)
i sort of assumed when it came out on dvd one of the features would be a sweded version, way to miss a golden opportunity geniuses
― like to see people and animal getting hurt or in troubles (nickalicious), Friday, 4 September 2009 03:22 (sixteen years ago)
No, that would have been shit.
― Alba, Friday, 4 September 2009 07:29 (sixteen years ago)