hahahahahaha Atlas Shrugged is being made into a movie! with Angelina Jolie! [EDIT: actually not anymore! oh well!]

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Writer-director Randall Wallace wasn't about to shrug off the chance to adapt Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged" for the bigscreen.

Wallace, the "Braveheart" scribe known for taking on epic themes, will begin penning the script immediately for Lionsgate.

Angelina Jolie has already signed on to star in the film, which is being produced by Howard and Karen Baldwin ("Ray") -- who hold the rights to the classic book -- and Media Talent Group topper Geyer Kosinski.

Wallace, who last wrote and directed "We Were Soldiers" for Paramount, said he and his college-age son made a deal last year to read each other's favorite books. His was C.S. Lewis' "Mere Christianity," which runs around 100 pages; his son's was "Atlas Shrugged," which runs more than 1,100 pages.

"I was fascinated by Rand's book. It was original and provocative," Wallace told Daily Variety.

Wallace intends to finish the adaptation before he starts production next year on Catherine the Great epic "The Mercenary," another collaboration with Jolie.

"Mercenary," previously titled "Love and Honor," will be produced by Wallace's shingle, the Wheelhouse, which is in the final stages of closing a slate financing deal with a Wall Street private equity fund. "Mercenary," set in Russia during the time of the American Revolution, would be financed by the fund.

A movie version of "Atlas Shrugged" has been long in the making. Producer Al Ruddy tried for years, attracting the interest of Clint Eastwood, Robert Redford and Faye Dunaway along the way.

Jolie is another longtime fan of Rand's, and she was eager to play the role of Dagny Taggart, the most powerful female character in any of the Russian-born author's books.

Wallace is repped by William Morris Agency. Jolie is managed by Kosinski.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 19 October 2006 04:15 (nineteen years ago)

too bad my proposed Starship Troopers-style treatment of the material wont ever be made now:-(

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 19 October 2006 04:17 (nineteen years ago)

Jolie is another longtime fan of Rand's

Not so hot anymore?

this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Thursday, 19 October 2006 04:19 (nineteen years ago)

Wallace, who last wrote and directed "We Were Soldiers" for Paramount, said he and his college-age son made a deal last year to read each other's favorite books. His was C.S. Lewis' "Mere Christianity," which runs around 100 pages; his son's was "Atlas Shrugged," which runs more than 1,100 pages.

I'd be the black sheep of this family so damn quick.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 October 2006 04:24 (nineteen years ago)

"Stop that frivolous nonsense you're doing or you're disowned! I want a book report by 5 pm on everything Dickens ever wrote!"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 October 2006 04:25 (nineteen years ago)

Wallace, who last wrote and directed "We Were Soldiers" for Paramount, said he and his college-age son made a deal last year to read each other's favorite books. His was C.S. Lewis' "Mere Christianity," which runs around 100 pages; his son's was "Atlas Shrugged," which runs more than 1,100 pages.

oh for fuck's sake

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fauxhemian (fauxhemian), Thursday, 19 October 2006 04:26 (nineteen years ago)

just the whole smug cross-generational irony implied in that graph is driving me nuts. dadz learn too. ughhhhhhh

fauxhemian (fauxhemian), Thursday, 19 October 2006 04:27 (nineteen years ago)

this blows

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 19 October 2006 04:34 (nineteen years ago)

produced by Wallace's shingle, the Wheelhouse

what

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Thursday, 19 October 2006 04:49 (nineteen years ago)

Jolie is another longtime fan of Rand's

For some reason, this seems totally logical.

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 19 October 2006 04:53 (nineteen years ago)

will there be objectivist titty?

Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 19 October 2006 05:00 (nineteen years ago)

I wish my Dad could make movies of my favorite books starring Angelina Jolie.

Marmot (marmotwolof), Thursday, 19 October 2006 05:02 (nineteen years ago)

i wish you would die

fauxhemian (fauxhemian), Thursday, 19 October 2006 05:07 (nineteen years ago)

I will! Be patient.

Marmot (marmotwolof), Thursday, 19 October 2006 05:13 (nineteen years ago)

Awesome. I hope it is completely over the top ridiculous.

Maria (Maria), Thursday, 19 October 2006 05:19 (nineteen years ago)

me too!

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 19 October 2006 05:19 (nineteen years ago)

Now. Who is John Galt?

Maria (Maria), Thursday, 19 October 2006 05:26 (nineteen years ago)

What is John Guilt?

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 19 October 2006 05:27 (nineteen years ago)

objectivism is the new sc1ent0logy.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 19 October 2006 06:14 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, The Fountainhead was a good movie, this might be too. Especially if the producers can somehow revivify the maggoty corpse of Gary Cooper.

James Herbert Dip (noodle vague), Thursday, 19 October 2006 07:00 (nineteen years ago)

"Another major comic book writer who explicitly acknowledges an intellectual debt to Ayn Rand is Frank Miller"

SHOCKED

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 19 October 2006 09:06 (nineteen years ago)

seriously though, i'm not really surprised that so many movie stars/hollywood-types love an author that celebrates success and "individualism" as the pinnacle of achievement.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 19 October 2006 09:15 (nineteen years ago)

That's unfortunate. Atlas fugged.

Sir Lance A Zit (Dick Butkus), Thursday, 19 October 2006 10:47 (nineteen years ago)

produced by freaks and geeks producer

directed by the director of the paris hilton sextape

am0n (am0n), Thursday, 19 October 2006 12:10 (nineteen years ago)

It's gonna have a hard time being funnier than The Fountainhead.

Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 19 October 2006 12:17 (nineteen years ago)

Oliver Stone —unquestionably Hollywood’s farthest-left director

FFS, really? Paranoia over the Kennedy assasination and being cranky about Nixon was almost universal for his and subsiquent generations. How was Natural Born Killers a far-left movie?

Coach Dave (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Thursday, 19 October 2006 12:35 (nineteen years ago)

and don't forget his 9/11 movie

milo z (mlp), Thursday, 19 October 2006 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

NBK was a far-AWESOME movie!

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Thursday, 19 October 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

"Objectivism" is funny every time I read it. It reminds me of that movie where Fred Astaire plays a character based on Richard Avedon and the female lead is interested in some philosophy called "Empathicalism"

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 19 October 2006 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

Funny Face. Good movie.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 19 October 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

Also, given the idiocy of entertainment press, it's entirely possible that "longtime fan" means some reporter fired the question at Jolie and she just didn't say no.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 19 October 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

Ayn Rand seems to appeal to extremely self-centered and self-deluded people regardless of political allignment, so I wouldn't be completely surprised.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 19 October 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

I suppose. Still, I don't know much about objectivism (nor can I be arsed to consult wikipedia before noon) but the whole saving-forgotten-peoples, millions-of-dollars-to-charity thing doesn't seem very Randian.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 19 October 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

Er, yeah, I guess that's true.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 19 October 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

Seriously Hurting, shut the fuck up.

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Thursday, 19 October 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

Rand VERY big with gym-toned brainless Chelsea fags

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 October 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

"shingle" = the sign you hang out in front, i.e.

http://thumb2.shutterstock.com/photos3/thumb_small/10087/10087,1132560086,1.jpg

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

i love variety's industry-speak. it's cute.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

does anyone outside the USA understand anything about ayn rand??? it seems to me to be a very specifically american phenom

Mark Co (Markco), Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

I'm IN the USA and I read AS in high school some time and I STILL don't understand it.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

objectivism = harmolodics

The Bearnaise-Stain Bears (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

my UK view on ayn rand = eccentric 50s author who wrote books where big strapping economists say things like "I had to kill my cat because SHE WAS WEAK!!" and then some buxotic lady economist says "quite right, darling there is no time for emotion in our WORLD OF NOW!!"

US view on rand seems to = omg this is serious philosophy!!!

Mark Co (Markco), Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

in Soviet Russia AS understands YOU

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

Mark, awesome! Hahah.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

Oh man, how much better would this be as a musical?

Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

i don't think anybody serious takes rand seriously. she might be assigned in high school, but i don't think she's taught in college philosophy courses or anything. but i could be wrong.

but based on the number of people i know under 40 who call themselves libertarians, i won't be surprised if some form of libertarianism is the next big wave in american politics. it's what underlies a lot of the "western strategy" being considered by both parties right now. so a big rand revival could be in the offing.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

"A Is A" = total big finale number. "Aaaaaaa...iiiiiiisssss...AAAAAAAAA!!! Dun dun dun."

Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

i don't think anybody serious takes rand seriously.

enough undergraduates do to make it rather disturbing.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think so - the philosophy is too deeply rooted in the Cold War-era.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

I had this weird friend in college who was both a Randite and a hardcore fundamentalist Christian. She also tended to go to extremes in general though, including a half-hearted suicide attempt.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

Not very extreme of her.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

Is she even taught widely in high school? Rand seems (on a literary/respectability level) like the kind of thing some kids read on their own, but not so much in an actual English class.

My high school loved the canon - two Shakespeares a year from 9th grade on, American novelists junior year (Hawthorne, Gatsby, et al.), European and 20th Century world senior year (Kafka, Dostoyevsky, Camus, et al. plus Milton and Dante). I can't imagine any of my teachers handing out Rand with a straight face (or finding time to teach a 1000-page novel).

xp - I knew a gay, Mormon Randroid. He moved to Manhattan a year ago, so he could be part of the Chelsea boy crew Morbs speaks of.

milo z (mlp), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

Oh man, how much better would this be as a musical?

Atlas!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

this would be awesome as a farce - probably turn out that way anyhow.

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

fwiw, the only randian i know in new york is gay.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

Rand seems (on a literary/respectability level) like the kind of thing some kids read on their own, but not so much in an actual English class.

yeah the few rand fans i knew in high school and college all came to her via 2112.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

She also tended to go to extremes in general though, including a half-hearted suicide attempt.

-- A-ron Hubbard (Hurtingchie...), October 19th, 2006.

Not very extreme of her.

-- Laurel (sininspac...), October 19th, 2006.

Well, she got all set to do it but then called her brother to have him come "say goodbye." Obviously the brother realized what was going on and stopped it and she was briefly checked in to an institution, as she was on a few other occasions.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

i don't think anybody serious takes rand seriously. she might be assigned in high school, but i don't think she's taught in college philosophy courses or anything. but i could be wrong.

In my college freshman-year facebook (circa 1991) The Fountainhead was the most popular "favorite book" behind the Bible. I don't think the academy takes it, or any pop-dogma type book that seriously, but people sure seem to.

Dr. Alicia D. Titsovich (sexyDancer), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

i won't be surprised if some form of libertarianism is the next big wave in american politics.

as far as i know that's already happening. there's a lot of suburban youths of voting age who are disconnected from the rest of society (or at least any social diversity one might find living in stripmall subdivisions that tend to homogenize class and race) that feel like their taxes are wasted on programs they don't have any use for, and they're burdened by RESTRICTIVE LAWS against drugs and guns and helmets. combine this (what i guess you could call a randian sense of independence) with an already growing athiest sentiment that severs any potential affiliation with the republican right, as well as a contempt for what they see as a "bullshit two party system," and the libertarians emerge as the new conservative party for an upper-middle class 18-25 generation further from the working poor than ever.

ath (ath), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

yeah in American schools this has zero cred - I can't imagine a course with Rand as required reading. (of course kids still read it - mostly nerds with power fantasies of being iconoclasts)

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

Rand is good for telling people what they want to hear - that the easiest thing to do (always acting purely out of self-interest) is actually the best thing to do. Hence her popularity.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

I think Rand really is a very American phenomenon - I'd heard nothing about her until I stumbled across the name on the Internet a few years back, and most I've learned about her has been through ILE.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

At my college there was an Objectivist group that actively agitated against such degeneracy as health insurance, which subsidizes medicine for lazy people who haven't earned it.

Paul Eater (eater), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

My jr. high school had a class that was essentially free reading time with the caveat that you had to select what you read from the bookshelf in the class. There was a point system based on the supposed difficulty of the book, etc. Anthem was v. popular. But none of my jr. high/high school/college classes actually assigned Rand.

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C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

I assume that this is so because her writing appeals to "American" (in an extremely rough sense) rather than "European" values.

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Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, c'mon there has to be some seething lurker out there who wants to defend Rand.

Coach Dave (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

Squirrel Police?

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

Who needs a lurker when you've got Dang P.

milo z (mlp), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

maybe we can find someone from this?

The Atlasphere: Ayn Rand Dating & Networking

ath (ath), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

MYRIGHTFULLYEARNEDSPACE.COM

ath (ath), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

The problem is that any of Rand's ideas that carry any intellectual weight have been formulated by better thinkers.

James Herbert Dip (noodle vague), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

I hope neil peart gets a part in this.

timmy tannin (pompous), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

even the name objectivist is goofy.

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

shit, i can't find a screengrab of Officer Barbrady talking about Atlas Shrugged was so bad he's never going to read again

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 19 October 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

anyone heard penn jillette's radio show? libertarian talk radio.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 19 October 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

Dude endorsed the Lib.party candidate two years ago, too

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 19 October 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

Rand is good for telling people what they want to hear

OTM. I've a few objectivist friends and in each of their cases they were already predisposed to a high degree of self-centeredness and isolation. Sara has done this frightening self-indoctrination thing where she's read Atlas & Fountainhead twice a year for the last 8 years.

Her political philosophy is "as long as the government let's me close the door to my house and leaves me the fuck alone, I don't care what else it does (to you or anyone else)."

Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Thursday, 19 October 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

sounds like a totally happy well-adjusted person yep

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 October 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

Books: David Sedaris, Harry Potter, anything by Ayn Rand

and what (ooo), Thursday, 19 October 2006 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, that's the experience that I've had with folks I met in school who were really into it. They were a shade of nerd or geek whose socialization was damaged even moreso than most, to the point where it was infected by some reagan rugged individual bullshit and resulted in this almost full-on retreat. It's like their defense mechanism was this self-fulfilling isolation.

My fave philosophy prof who pointed out that trying to focus on selfishness and asshole self-centeredness as a means to actually develop a self tends to result in hilarious failure. "Selfishness is not selfish enough" or some such.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 19 October 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

as far as i know that's already happening. there's a lot of suburban youths of voting age who are disconnected from the rest of society (or at least any social diversity one might find living in stripmall subdivisions that tend to homogenize class and race) that feel like their taxes are wasted on programs they don't have any use for, and they're burdened by RESTRICTIVE LAWS against drugs and guns and helmets. combine this (what i guess you could call a randian sense of independence) with an already growing athiest sentiment that severs any potential affiliation with the republican right, as well as a contempt for what they see as a "bullshit two party system," and the libertarians emerge as the new conservative party for an upper-middle class 18-25 generation further from the working poor than ever.

I see this as fairly otm. I'm in the buckle of the Bible Belt, and I just don't see that many politically engaged, under 25, right wing Christians these days. Perhaps it will come with age?

Will (will), Thursday, 19 October 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

eh - that description's been accurate for at least 20 years, and I don't see no Libertarian/Randian nat'l political movement.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 October 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

That's because they all have capital gains they need to protect and inheritance taxes on mummy's estate to dodge, so they just vote Republican.

milo z (mlp), Thursday, 19 October 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

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True: all we do see is decline in participation at the polls.

Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Thursday, 19 October 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

uh yeah apathy doesn't make you a libertarian. that makes you a non-voter. people 18-25 don't vote!

SOME LOW END BRO (TOMBOT), Thursday, 19 October 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

soon enough it'll be people 18-30!

SOME LOW END BRO (TOMBOT), Thursday, 19 October 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

Apathy doesn't make you a libertarian, but it makes you less likely to care what the government is doing UNLESS of course it intrudes on your personal affairs.

It's a remarkably libertarian sentiment, I think.

Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Thursday, 19 October 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

Obviously I'm not suggesting that every frat boy who doesn't vote is in fact holed up in his room reading Anarchy, State & Utopia, but I think you get my meaning.

Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Thursday, 19 October 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

Maxim: The All-Objectivist Issue!

Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 19 October 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 19 October 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

Maxim: The All-Objectivist Issue!

oh dear Lord. Would this be less toxic or even more toxic than those "Conservative T-shirts!@!!1" pop-ups?

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 19 October 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

I've met a fair number of people who think of the Rand novels in positive terms who are not Objectivist-types. Regardless of what the crazy lady intended or how far the hard-line nerd cult feels it should be taken, the philosophy can be so broadly applied; it's essentially Nietzchian self-empowerment concepts in a thriller context.
Atlas Shrugged:The Movie should be entertaining. No matter how straight they play the material, some plot elements are so bizarre the movie is bound to be even a little excentric.

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Villians design a sound-wave machine that can make things explode, which is tested on a goat in a public ceremony.
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I remember the novel having some entertaining set pieces, and the Epic cinema prose which praises American landscapes and industrial machinary is effectively visceral in doses. The most ineresting thing about it though is the fact that the villians are all defined as passive-aggressive types who used their emotions to manipulate people. This aspect, if adapted correctly may resonate massively with the emo backlash in the culture.

theodore (herbert hebert), Thursday, 19 October 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

We don't want to hear it, Mr. Rand Apologist.

milo z (mlp), Thursday, 19 October 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

come on. i know a few perfectly lovely people who were objectivists in high school and got over it sometime during college. it's a good rebellion against some image of traditional christian values, and just seems to last as long as it takes to find or construct something a bit less crazy. (also the whole "you are not responsible for anyone else's happiness, and nobody is responsible for yours" thing helped me get through a long high school breakup without being a complete doormat, even though i never went so far as to actually be objectivist.)

i love "sewer, gas, and electric." it starts out with a parody of the first scene of atlas shrugged. but everything's better when you add a mutant flying shark.

Maria (Maria), Thursday, 19 October 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

oh I'll happily admit I went through an Ayn Rand phase around age 15-16.

Then I moved on to James Joyce and the Pogues or something, I forget.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 October 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

yeah i think i was also in the midst of a buddhism phase at the same time. it was followed by a christian theology phase, and it kinda stuck, and now i'm kinda christian. go figure.

Maria (Maria), Thursday, 19 October 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

lol @ people comparing Ayn Rand to Nietzsche. The biggest fan of Nietzsche I know is a Marxist and hates Rand with a burning passion.

I never went through a "Rand phase" because I read Anthem at age 14 and thought it was a poorly written, melodramatic pile of BS. (But I won 30 bucks from the Ayn Rand Institute for the essay I wrote about it.)

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 19 October 2006 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

I really like Nietzshe and really dislike Rand.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 19 October 2006 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

my Nietzsche phase was college, for sure - but like kingfish I still really appreciate Nietzsche in my dotage, whereas I find Ayn Rand beyond laughable.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 October 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

Somebody ought to do a paper on why Rand, Marx & Nietzsche all appeal so much to disaffected white kids from 15-20, despite the fact that nothing they have to say makes a goddamn bit of sense. Why those three crazy people? Why not Kant or something? Seriously.

SOME LOW END BRO (TOMBOT), Thursday, 19 October 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

And yeah they seem mutually exclusive!

SOME LOW END BRO (TOMBOT), Thursday, 19 October 2006 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

Marx makes a lot of sense.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 19 October 2006 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know any 15 year olds that could understand Kant. Rand wrote a novel and Marx & Nietzsche wrote manifestos.

Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 19 October 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

Nietszche's basically highbrow self-help, isn't he? (I haven't read all that much Nietszche, so it's possible I'm too quick to judge)

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 19 October 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

And I case Nietzsche appeals to teens because he's like the ultimate rebel philosophist, man.

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Yeah, I can't imagine any 15 year old reading anything from Marx except the Communist Maniphesto.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 19 October 2006 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

Er, you can read Nietzsche as highbrow self-help, just like you can read him as a proto-Nazi, but I don't think either of those are what he was really going for. Nietzsche's basically a political philosopher.

Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 19 October 2006 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

Marx makes tons of sense on a lot of points and is way too complex for the majority of 15-20 yo's to grasp beyond the most basic level. Actually this goes for Nietszche too (tho there is a good deal more nonsense in Nietzsche due to his poetic propensities and questionable mental balance).

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 October 2006 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

There's a lot of other Marxist writing you can get your hands on that's not actually Das Kapital, though. But yeah, that doesn't really mean they're comprehending it, just that they're mad about Wal-Mart or something.

Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 19 October 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

Basically if you like computers a lot you're into Rand, if you have ever considered vegetarianism you're into Marx, and if you like industrial music you dig Nietzsche.

Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 19 October 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

I never went through a "Rand phase" because I read Anthem at age 14 and thought it was a poorly written, melodramatic pile of BS. (But I won 30 bucks from the Ayn Rand Institute for the essay I wrote about it.)

Now that's how Rand makes in-roads in education. Every English class from seventh grade on had a poster for their essay contest. I never could bring myself to enter.

(I never had a Rand phase - I had an Orwell/Hemingway/pine-for-the-glorious-Spanish Republic phase. I call that phase "my teenage years.")

milo z (mlp), Thursday, 19 October 2006 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

Only thing Marx ever got right was when he talked about how wage labor can kill you.

And Nietzsche had plenty of problem, mainly involving women. Either in his take on them("Everything Nietzsche ever knew about women was second-hand and third-rate" -Walter Kaufman) or his nutzoid sister who shacked up with a proto-nazi husband and put out a random blather of N's notes and called it "Will to Power."

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 19 October 2006 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

i'm by no means a marxist but comparing him with rand is the biggest bullshit i've ever heard. his writings on the US civil war are fantastic (light-years ahead of anything any libertarian ever wrote about it, for sure).

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 19 October 2006 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

Somebody ought to do a paper on why Rand, Marx & Nietzsche all appeal so much to disaffected white kids from 15-20, despite the fact that nothing they have to say makes a goddamn bit of sense. Why those three crazy people? Why not Kant or something? Seriously.

I don't remember Marxist boy's opinion on Kant, but I know he's read him and a ton of other philosophers. (He and another friend of mine are in a Facebook group called "Let the General Will Be Sovereign" where argue about Rousseau.)

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 19 October 2006 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

Nietzsche's basically a political philosopher.

-- Eppy (epp...) (webmail), Today 5:47 PM. (Eppy) (link)

EH?

I've only read half of Twilight of the Idols and am in the process of reading Thus Spoke Zarathustra but I wouldn't call him a political philosopher. He seems like more of a moral philosopher determined to tear down rationalist and Christian tradition

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 19 October 2006 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

Logic, reason and happiness wasnt really Nietzsches thing, but his influence is obvious, read the fountainhead .

Kiwi (Kiwi), Thursday, 19 October 2006 22:30 (nineteen years ago)

rationality: "reasons" = "causes" for human behaviour?

Kiwi (Kiwi), Thursday, 19 October 2006 22:54 (nineteen years ago)

re Rand cf http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e8/Satanicbible.gif

Kiwi (Kiwi), Thursday, 19 October 2006 22:58 (nineteen years ago)

Somebody ought to do a paper on why Rand, Marx & Nietzsche all appeal so much to disaffected white kids from 15-20

Rush and Joy Division dude!

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 19 October 2006 23:12 (nineteen years ago)

i'd like to see "either/or" by soren kirkegaard made into a movie starring jennifer aniston, as a direct dialetical diss to this

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 19 October 2006 23:20 (nineteen years ago)

wot do victorious hermits know anyway

Kiwi (Kiwi), Thursday, 19 October 2006 23:29 (nineteen years ago)

will there be objectivist titty?

-- Zwan (anthonyisrigh...), October 19th, 2006.

U&K.

(I have a friend who was required to read Anthem in hs FWIW. It is only since coming to the US that I've realized people actually think of AR as a serious philosopher on par with Nietzsche [whom I've never read]. Not to say it doesn't happen in Canada, just I never really noticed it so much. [I don't really think Peart did before anyone gets to that.] She's not without her merits, as extracurricular high school reading goes. Can't have been that much worse than Brave New World.)

Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 19 October 2006 23:52 (nineteen years ago)

Reading this thread you'd think half the U.S. population is made up of walking Howard Rourkes!

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 19 October 2006 23:56 (nineteen years ago)

i don't think people outside of high school do think of her as a serious philosopher on par with nietzsche, though. honestly, i have never met someone older than 20 who thinks that.

Maria (Maria), Thursday, 19 October 2006 23:57 (nineteen years ago)

i've met too many rand-admiring adults

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 19 October 2006 23:59 (nineteen years ago)

yeesh. i will never forget how cheap and used i felt by Anthem.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Friday, 20 October 2006 00:09 (nineteen years ago)

is it unfair to speculate that lars von trier seems like he'd be a rand fan, for some reason?

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Friday, 20 October 2006 00:10 (nineteen years ago)

aldous huxley >>>>>>>>>>>> (etc) ayn rand

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 20 October 2006 00:58 (nineteen years ago)

Oh good, now I won't have to feel vaguely lame about not having finished the book when I was 17.

Pork Cheops (willpie), Friday, 20 October 2006 01:19 (nineteen years ago)

is it unfair to speculate that lars von trier seems like he'd be a rand fan, for some reason?

ha, i know what you mean, but yeah, that's unfair. lars is a humanist. he just doesn't like people very much. but dogville is really kind of an anti-anthem.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 20 October 2006 02:38 (nineteen years ago)

Curt1s OTM re: Nietzsche. He was misappropriated a number of times by politicians (i.e. fascists using Will to Power), but his work isn't explicitly political. Obviously it's political in the sense of personal politics, and his views on gender are deeply problematic as a result of that.

Re: LOWENDBRO & "mutally exclusivism," Nietzsche & Marxism can coexist quite easily if you follow the literature into the Nietzsche-influenced post-Marxists like Louis Althusser & Alain Badiou (the fucking MAN).

Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Friday, 20 October 2006 03:53 (nineteen years ago)

Didn't they already make this film?

http://common.swankmp.com/movie_titles/images/incredibles.jpg

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Friday, 20 October 2006 11:42 (nineteen years ago)

Elastigirl is hotter than angelina jolie, though.

I bet this film totally blows, but in a non-entertaining manner. Rand was a crashing bore.

They should make a film based on that steve ditko objectivist superhero comic - Mr A, was it? That would be hilarious.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 20 October 2006 11:55 (nineteen years ago)

omg Mister A is so awesome.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 20 October 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Haha, yeah, after I wrote that I was wondering how long it'd be til someone called me on it.

Also, it must be noted that Rand's influence is far more keenly felt on the Internet than it is IRL. Randians do love to post on message boards and blog threads.

Eppy (Eppy), Friday, 20 October 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

If Ayn Rand had started her career writing for the movies in the 1990s instead of the 1930s, she would have been writing stuff produced by Jerry Bruckheimer.

mh. (mike h.), Friday, 20 October 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

otm

Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Friday, 20 October 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

Didn't they already make this film?

zaxxon25, I totally agree with you. The Incredibles creaped me out.

WHY DOES OUR SOCIETY CRUSH EXCEPTIONAL PEOPLE?!?! OMG, THERE'S NO WHERE FOR PEOPLE WITH TALLENT AND WILL TO GO. DAMN THE COMMON HERD! DAMN THE SOCIALISTS RUNNING THIS COUNTRY!

Why do so many people identify with this movie?

Coach Dave (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Friday, 20 October 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

it's essentially Nietzchian self-empowerment concepts in a thriller context

I find the idea that these books are thrilling far more ridiculous than that they have anything in common with Nietzsche.

this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Friday, 20 October 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

As always, TfP getting to the heart of the matter:

http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/102306/ayn-rand.gif

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

*salutes*

latebloomer: Veteran of the Mai Tai Massacre (latebloomer), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

ten months pass...

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117971319.html?categoryid=13&cs=1

Vadim Perelman to direct 'Atlas'
Jolie to star in Lionsgate's Ayn Rand adaptation
By MICHAEL FLEMING

Lionsgate has brought on Vadim Perelman to rewrite "Atlas Shrugged" and direct Angelina Jolie in the starring role.

While Lionsgate needs to get a final script before formally committing to a start date with Perelman at the helm, the move puts the company in a strong position for an early 2008 production start, just a shade over 50 years after Ayn Rand's famed novel was first published in 1957.

Pic will be produced by Howard and Karen Baldwin and Media Talent Group's Geyer Kosinski.

Perelman will work from a draft of the script penned by "Braveheart" scribe Randall Wallace, who managed to boil down the Rand manifesto of 1,100-plus pages into a 127-page script. The drama revolves around what happens when great industrialists and thinkers go on strike and the world grinds to a halt.

Wallace will remain involved, and in a recent meeting with Perelman, the pair traded Russian dialogue. Perelman was born in Kiev, while Wallace has picked up the language researching his Catherine the Great pic "The Mercenary"; Rand was born in Russia. Perelman has brought his own take that will be incorporated into Wallace's script.

Perelman's latest film, the Uma Thurman-Evan Rachel Wood starrer "In Bloom," premieres at the Toronto Film Festival. It's his first since his 2003 breakthrough, "House of Sand and Fog."

Jolie starts work in early fall on the Clint Eastwood-directed "The Changeling" for Universal, Imagine and Malpaso. She would like to follow with "Atlas Shrugged," long a passion project for her.

latebloomer, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 11:08 (eighteen years ago)

this is madness. i haven't read it, just the wiki entry, but it sounds no less insane than that l ron hubbard book john travolta did.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 11:22 (eighteen years ago)

"this is why i make the blockbusters," said jolie, "so that i can do important work like this"

actually she didn't say that but i bet that's what she thinks

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 12:09 (eighteen years ago)

she's also doing that daniel pearl movie with the awful title

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 12:11 (eighteen years ago)

more like "Atlas Sucked" amirite?

Heave Ho, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 12:13 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I can't wait until she finishes doing that movie that came out two months ago.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 12:14 (eighteen years ago)

not out in uk yet

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 12:17 (eighteen years ago)

we're counting the hours

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 12:17 (eighteen years ago)

As you should be.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 12:46 (eighteen years ago)

I can't wait for this! The thing I love about Atlas Shrugged is that it's so over-the-top and ridiculous. Therefore the movie will be hilarious and awesome.

Something bothers me about this sentence: "Perelman's latest film, the Uma Thurman-Evan Rachel Wood starrer "In Bloom," premieres at the Toronto Film Festival." That something is the phrase "the Uma Thurman-Evan Rachel Wood starrer." How hard is it to use real words?

Maria, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 13:22 (eighteen years ago)

well you know, it's Variety

latebloomer, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 13:25 (eighteen years ago)

"I was fascinated by Rand's Hitler's book. It was original and provocative," Wallace told Daily Variety.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 13:26 (eighteen years ago)

i love var-speak

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 13:27 (eighteen years ago)

yes, maria! that sent. bothered me so much i didn't read teh rest of the article.

tehresa, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 13:36 (eighteen years ago)

lol varnacular
xpost

tehresa, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 13:40 (eighteen years ago)

I thought Angelina wanted to help the world :(

humansuit, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 15:11 (eighteen years ago)

in her own special Randian way.

do you prefer "vehicle" to "starrer"? That just makes me think of a limo.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 15:22 (eighteen years ago)

She needs a limo to pack as many Darfur orphans as possible.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 15:24 (eighteen years ago)

"this is why i make the blockbusters," said jolie

Maybe I need to look at her filmography again but she hasn't had many blockbusters. I mean, outside of the Tomb Raider films and Mr and Mrs. Smith she's had a lot of bombs. Even "Mr. and Mrs." was driven largely by her celebrity as a celebrity, not her reputation for being a box office queen. The fact she's used the tabloids nearly as much as Paris Hilton has to be build her career is something nobody really looks at.

Cunga, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

she has never ever been in a good movie ever and she sucks

gff, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

The fact she's used the tabloids nearly as much as Paris Hilton has to be build her career is something nobody really looks at.

they're too busy looking at other things

Edward III, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 17:09 (eighteen years ago)

she has never ever been in a good movie ever and she sucks

otm

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 17:37 (eighteen years ago)

guys lol point: in my pr class yesterday we were talking about industry jargon, etc. in trade publications vs. press releases. the prime example of crazy jargon used: variety. :P

tehresa, Friday, 7 September 2007 22:04 (eighteen years ago)

Lionsgate has brought on Noam Chomsky to rewrite "Atlas Shrugged" and direct Angelina Jolie in the starring role.

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 7 September 2007 22:11 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

http://www.riskybusinessblog.com/2009/07/with-charlize-atlas-is-no-longer-shrugging.html

'Atlas' may no longer be shrugging

By Steven Zeitchik

Char The 37-year effort to bring "Atlas Shrugged" to the screen is finally gaining momentum.

Sort of.

Oscar winner Charlize Theron has been meeting during the past several months with Lionsgate and producers Howard and Karen Baldwin, who are developing the project's latest iteration, about starring as main character Dagny Taggart.

Theron has been eager to play the role but has been concerned that a feature would lose many of the nuances of the monster-sized novel. So the Rand adaptation would, under a plan she and producers discussed, be turned into a miniseries for Epix, the pay-cable network Lionsgate is forming with MGM and Viacom/Paramount.

The project, according to this plan, would be to make the mini one of the fledgling network’s programming linchpins. While insiders are not ruling out the possibility of releasing a condensed version to theaters, the main thrust would be the network, where the mini could be used to lure the book’s legion of fans to subscribe.

Theron, who recently signed with WME after years without an agent, has a history of embracing difficult roles. She took the role of a prostitute-turned-killer in “Monster,” which won her an Oscar. She’s also had parts in the sexual-harassment drama “North Country” and the upcoming apocalyptic tale “The Road.”

But her involvement remained uncertain at press time.

While those familiar with the discussions say she has been driving the development process, her reps say that she has recently come to a decision but has not yet informed the studio or producers. WME and longtime manager J.J. Harris told THR late Monday that Theron "is not moving forward with the project."

The uncertainty surrounding Theron's involvement continues a long tradition of murkiness for “Atlas Shrugged,” the project with more go-rounds than Ayn Rand’s book has pages.

Regarded as a difficult book to film, an “Atlas” project nonetheless has been tried by countless producers, dating back to an attempted effort with writer-producer Albert Ruddy in 1972 (he and Rand couldn't see eye-to-eye on creative issues).

Most recently, the Baldwins and Philip Anschutz tried at Crusader Entertainment and the Baldwins, who produced “Ray” and other well-regarded pics, took it with them when they split from Anschutz.

Angelina Jolie had been loosely attached to the material with the Baldwins but has a number of projects that could go first, and producers are keen to shoot “Atlas” next year. That’s in part because of the timeliness of the material but, more important, because an option with the Rand estate expires if principal photography does not begin in 2010.

With Theron's involvement, it could finally get a boost, especially since financiers also have come aboard; a high net-worth individual is said to find the themes resonant is said to be close to investing in the project. If Theron’s involvement falls through, Lionsgate and producers could bring on another lead, with several other well-known actresses expressing interest.

A 1,000-page novel filled with Rand’s ideas about the future of Western civilization, “Atlas” centers on Taggart, a railroad executive trying to keep her corporation competitive in a world she sees as hostile to innovation. Among its most famous passages is a 50-page speech from mysterious character John Galt, regarded as a veiled expression of Rand’s own ideas.

The book, which has sold tens of millions of copies since being published in 1957, has gained new traction in this era of Wall Street bailouts and corporate responsibility. Those opposed to Washington intervention have frequently cited it as a cautionary manifesto.

Producers own several drafts of the script adapting the difficult material, including one by “Braveheart” scribe Randall Wallace, which compressed the longer, more miniseries-friendly version by James Hart. It’s possible that several drafts could be synthesized to create the basis for a mini.

Although the miniseries idea is a new twist for Lionsgate, it has been considered before for “Atlas,” most recently as a development project a decade ago at TNT. Rand, who died in 1982, had favored television over film, thinking the medium would give her ideas more room to breathe.

Epix was created in part as an output pipeline for the films of the three studios but also is developing original programming. This year, it announced it was developing the pilot “Tough Trade,” a country music-set drama from “Weeds” creator Jenji Kohan.

Still, there are business obstacles for Epix, which has no carriage deals with cable or satellite operators. Some Wall Street analysts wonder how a network might be launched in a climate of consolidation — and one in which HBO, Starz and Showtime are competing for pay-cable subscribers.

But insiders hope the fact that there’s now another outlet for premium programming — and a climate favorable to prestige longform projects on the small screen — could ensure Hollywood finally is shrugging no more.

Maybe.

Panera - Vulgar Display Of Flour (latebloomer), Thursday, 23 July 2009 19:20 (sixteen years ago)

ten months pass...

Oh boy:

For almost two decades, Hollywood has tried unsuccessfully to turn Ayn Rand’s 1100 page classic Atlas Shrugged into a feature film with actresses ranging from Angelina Jolie to Charlize Theron to Faye Dunaway. John Aglialoro, the entrepreneur who 17 years ago paid $1 million to option the book rights, is tired of the futility and is taking matters into his own hands. He’s announced that he is financing a June 11 production start in Los Angeles for the first of what he said will be four films made from the book.

Aglialoro, who had a hand in writing the script by Brian O’Tool, is taking on this ambitious plan with an unproven director, and is weeks away from production without stars to play Dagny Taggart, Hank Rearden, John Galt and the other roles. He's moving forward despite the conventional wisdom that without stars, it could ultimately be the audience that shrugged.

Aglialoro, CEO of exercise equipment manufacturer Cybex International and UM Holdings, would hardly be the only entrepreneur who uses his resources to make a picture happen, one in which he took on a creative role. David Ellison, son of Oracle's Larry Ellison, made a co-financing deal with Paramount, and one of the first projects from his Skydance slate is the aviation thriller Northern Lights, which casts him as co-star. Dan Pritzker, the billionaire son of Hyatt Hotels chain magnate Jay Pritzker, financed and directed a pair of jazz films: Bolden stars The Hurt Locker's Anthony Mackie as pioneering horn player Buddy Bolden; Louis is an honest to goodness silent film--with dialogue title cards and musical accompaniment--about the childhood of Louis Armstrong. Pritzker is working on a plan to show the latter in venues with a live orchestra. I saw the silent film and thought it was well made, but I have doubts Pritzker will sway the business from its 80 year infatuation with "talkies."

Atlas Shrugged will be directed by Stephen Polk, an actor/producer whose father, Louis Polk, was once MGM chairman. He considers Atlas Shrugged to be his feature directing debut, though Polk acknowledges he stepped in and helmed the 2008 indie Baggage. Aglialoro was unavailable to speak directly, but sent a missive indicating that he’s courting actresses like Theron and Maggie Gyllenhaal to play Taggart. Sources in the camps of both actresses were aware of the project, but neither is planning to go to work on Atlas Shrugged next month.

Polk said they are not intimidated to film a storied book even if stars don't align. “For more than 15 years, this has been at studios and there has been a whole dance around who’ll play the iconic roles,” Polk said. “Making it an independent film was the game-changer. Everybody is saying, how can you shoot this movie without a star? We’re shooting it because it’s a good movie with great characters. We've been in pre-production for months, but kept it a mystery. Part of the reason is because there’s so much crap about how you need a great big budget and stars. We aren’t looking for big names to trigger press or financing.”

Polk said that the idea of cutting through the bureaucracy and just getting started is consistent with the book's themes of capitalism and taking entrepreneurial risk. The story centers around Taggart, a railroad executive trying to keep her business on a growth track despite her feeling that innovators in hers and other industries have stopped innovating, which is causing society to crumble.

...four films. Great.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 17:08 (sixteen years ago)

uh

even as the board's resident "Rand's work isn't as terrible as you guys say it is" poster, this entire project seems like the worst fucking idea possible

Marni and Louboutin: coming to Tuesdays this fall on FOX (HI DERE), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 17:12 (sixteen years ago)

Part of the reason is because there’s so much crap about how you need a great big budget and stars. We aren’t looking for big names to trigger press or financing.

Wait, based on this, the perfect solution!

Ladies and gentlemen, Atlas Shrugged directed by...

Tommy Wiseau.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 17:16 (sixteen years ago)

I just keep thinking Atlas Shrugged: First Sequence and... no

Marni and Louboutin: coming to Tuesdays this fall on FOX (HI DERE), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 17:17 (sixteen years ago)

"The human railroad! Ha ha ha...ha...ha ha!"

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 17:19 (sixteen years ago)

Actually this whole thing does seem like the perfect project for Kirk Cameron.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 17:19 (sixteen years ago)

Tommy Wiseau version of Atlas Shrugged would blow my mind

oh hai parasites

Mordy, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 17:22 (sixteen years ago)

script by Brian O’Tool

da croupier, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 17:32 (sixteen years ago)

the producers should just have a casting auction. that'd be kind of a beautiful free-market method for selecting taggart. they could start the bidding at $50 million and interested agents could just keep working it down until they get tara reid to sign on.

iiiijjjj, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 17:39 (sixteen years ago)

I would watch a movie version of Atlas Shrugged with Victoria Jackson in the role of Dagny Taggart.

Ice Man Hearts Manly Interests, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 17:42 (sixteen years ago)

Hahah I was thinking of her earlier as a possible lead.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 17:43 (sixteen years ago)

gotta get my hands on that script

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 17:51 (sixteen years ago)

i don't think free-market would work. after all, some terrible architect could surely have bargained a cheaper cost than Roarke did in Fountainhead, but Rand clearly believes there is such a thing as aesthetic/art value.

Mordy, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 18:11 (sixteen years ago)

Happy to see that there are others who were as creeped out by the Incredibles as I was. It did seem pretty Randian. Actually, the super-hero genre lends itself pretty easily to Randian themes.

The basic idea that there exists a select class of exceptional people who are essential to the welfare of the stupid, ungrateful lower classes has probably been around since the first human realized that there is an "I" and a "you".

Ice Man Hearts Manly Interests, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 18:22 (sixteen years ago)

They made the designer/architect in The Incredibles look like a goblin, if that's any consolation.

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 18:30 (sixteen years ago)

*shrug*

( `ハ´)☞  ☜(´∀`☜) (am0n), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 18:32 (sixteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118020578.html?categoryid=13&cs=1

The long-brewing feature version of author Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged" has begun shooting in Los Angeles as a $5 million indie produced by John Aglialoro and Harmon Kaslow.

Cameras began rolling over the weekend on a five-week shoot for "Atlas Shrugged Part One" with Paul Johansson directing from Brian Patrick O'Toole's script. Aglialoro would have lost the feature rights if the film wasn't in production by Saturday.

A spokesman for Aglialoro -- the CEO of exercise equipment producer Cybex -- said there will be at least one more "Atlas Shrugged" shot after the current film's completed. Rand's massive novel is divided into three parts, each consisting of 10 chapters.

"Atlas," published in 1957, takes place in a dystopian version of the U.S. in which society has collapsed as the government gains increasing controlover industry. The decline occurs while the most productive citizens, led by John Galt, begin vanishing.

Johansson ("One Tree Hill") portrays Galt. The lead role of railroad executive Dagny Taggart has gone to Taylor Schilling ("Mercy) and the part of Henry Reardon is being played by Grant Bowler ("Ugly Betty").

Michael Lerner ("A Serious Man") portrays lobbyist Wesley Mouch and director Nick Cassavetes has signed on for the Richard McNamara role. Other key cast include Matthew Marsdan as James Taggart and Graham Beckel as Ellis Wyatt.

"Atlas" also stars Edi Gathegi, Jsu Garcia, Rebecca Wisocky, Ethan Cohn, Patrick Fischer, Neill Barry, Christina Pickles and Nikki Klecha.

There have been unsuccessful attempts to bring "Atlas Shrugged" to the bigscreen and TV dating back to the 1970s.

In 2007, Angelina Jolie was to star in a Lionsgate version, with Vadim Perelman directing and rewriting "Atlas Shrugged" from a script penned by Randall Wallace. Husband-and-wife team Howard and Karen Baldwin and Media Talent Group's Geyer Kosinski were set to produce.

Save Ferris' It Means Everything knocked my socks off (latebloomer), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 01:58 (sixteen years ago)

Aglialoro would have lost the feature rights if the film wasn't in production by Saturday.

this stinks of a placeholder movie to retain the rights, kind of like Roger Corman's unreleased Fantastic Four flick.

Save Ferris' It Means Everything knocked my socks off (latebloomer), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 02:03 (sixteen years ago)

this stinks of a potential all-time classic!

love to see this book getting the motion picture it deserves; can't wait to see it.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 04:32 (sixteen years ago)

three months pass...

Too bad Oliver Stone isn't directing. I smell direct to DVD.

Remember the Dayne! (u s steel), Friday, 8 October 2010 10:11 (fifteen years ago)

only way I'll see this is if it's a black and white silent film that opens with a muscular dude holding a globe over his head, shrugging, then watching it slip out of his hands and smash into a million pieces upon hitting the ground. Roll credits over ragtime music.

committee for the removal of eccentric, evil mods (C.R.E.E.M.) (San Te), Friday, 8 October 2010 14:11 (fifteen years ago)

four months pass...

This really, really, really brings the LOLs. If I didn't already know, I'd assume it was a parody. May it do for libertarianism what that David Zucker POS did for conservatives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W07bFa4TzM

All you have to do is combine 1 to 7 with (a) to (d) and you should ha (Phil D.), Friday, 11 February 2011 22:50 (fifteen years ago)

I mean you've got a couple of Coen Bros alums, a dude from the cast of LOST, the drug dealer dude from Gone Baby Gone, that dude with the eyebrows . . . the sugar daddy behind this must have offered some juicy paydays, because this looks fucking ridiculous.

All you have to do is combine 1 to 7 with (a) to (d) and you should ha (Phil D.), Friday, 11 February 2011 22:59 (fifteen years ago)

lolz. jesus christ. part 1!

tylerw, Friday, 11 February 2011 23:04 (fifteen years ago)

Haha the dude playing John Galt is also the director!! You might know him from TV's One Tree Hill!

http://www.cwtv.com/images/c/0000/cw-onetreehill-prt-PJohansson-a_000672-c13f7b-325x434.jpg

All you have to do is combine 1 to 7 with (a) to (d) and you should ha (Phil D.), Friday, 11 February 2011 23:08 (fifteen years ago)

taxes on a train

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 11 February 2011 23:10 (fifteen years ago)

Thing was, I thought these modern types of libertarian/conservative whatevers hated high speed rail...

Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 February 2011 23:47 (fifteen years ago)

OMG it is Harry "Weasel" Weisel from Newsies!

Peter Pepsi (Abbbottt), Friday, 11 February 2011 23:50 (fifteen years ago)

they are not getting my metal!

tylerw, Friday, 11 February 2011 23:53 (fifteen years ago)

This is straight-to-video, right?

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 12 February 2011 00:12 (fifteen years ago)

Possible tagline: "Who is Alan Smithee?"

Whineyoming, The 51st State (King Boy Pato), Saturday, 12 February 2011 00:21 (fifteen years ago)

was gonna put the stars on my boycott list until i realised i'd never heard of any of them

Y Kant Torres Red (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 February 2011 00:33 (fifteen years ago)

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_is_Weasel_in_the_movie_the_Newsies

Peter Pepsi (Abbbottt), Saturday, 12 February 2011 00:34 (fifteen years ago)

I recognize the one guy from Mad Men/Lost (the interviewer?), but it's mostly a parade of unfamiliar faces. If I didn't know better, I'd think it was probably a Canadian production.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 12 February 2011 00:34 (fifteen years ago)

OMG it is Harry "Weasel" Weisel from Newsies!

― Peter Pepsi (Abbbottt), Friday, February 11, 2011 6:50 PM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i love u.

ENBB, Saturday, 12 February 2011 00:36 (fifteen years ago)

Holy shit, it's the diner guy from Mulholland Drive!

muus lääv? :D muus dut :( (Telephone thing), Saturday, 12 February 2011 00:38 (fifteen years ago)

God I couldnt even finish watching that!

Senor DingDong (Trayce), Saturday, 12 February 2011 00:41 (fifteen years ago)

armin shimmerman!

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 12 February 2011 00:44 (fifteen years ago)

laughed hard at the "PART 1" reveal.

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 12 February 2011 00:45 (fifteen years ago)

Holy shit, it's the diner guy from Mulholland Drive!

― muus lääv? :D muus dut :( (Telephone thing), Saturday, February 12, 2011 12:38 AM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

makes sense that he'd be afraid of a homeless person

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 12 February 2011 00:50 (fifteen years ago)

Aww now we cant make "Who is John Salt" jokes.

Senor DingDong (Trayce), Saturday, 12 February 2011 00:55 (fifteen years ago)

this is totally gonna be one of those things that cost $5 Hollywood to make and then pulls in like ten trillion dollars because it has a pre-built fanbase without a lot of discernment.

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 12 February 2011 01:00 (fifteen years ago)

(i say that as a fan of new moon)

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 12 February 2011 01:01 (fifteen years ago)

and then all the thinkpieces about how the mysterious power of ayn rand's work helped the one tree hill guy prove there can be "a different kind of blockbuster"

"it was a deeply personal project," hill says

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 12 February 2011 01:04 (fifteen years ago)

actor quotes equally divided between True Believers and people who won't say anything more than "i find [my part] a really fascinating character"

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 12 February 2011 01:04 (fifteen years ago)

"this year, we all know who john galt is."

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 12 February 2011 01:06 (fifteen years ago)

any excuse to post this is a good one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzPDEirVTZk

Philip Nunez, Saturday, 12 February 2011 01:07 (fifteen years ago)

I love the reveal

"what are you going to call this new company?"
"the john galt something"

what the fuck does that even mean. but I can imagine some randian getting really, really excited by that scene. oooh she's gonna stick it to the government!!

dayo, Saturday, 12 February 2011 01:43 (fifteen years ago)

will this be imax 3D

am0n, Saturday, 12 February 2011 01:52 (fifteen years ago)

opening Tax Day, get it?

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 12 February 2011 01:55 (fifteen years ago)

why not labor day

am0n, Saturday, 12 February 2011 01:56 (fifteen years ago)

Rich arseholes discussing tax loopholes + flashy shots of trains + epic thunderous music. Enticing.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Saturday, 12 February 2011 02:35 (fifteen years ago)

This really must be the most poorly timed film about petulant CEOs ever.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Saturday, 12 February 2011 02:48 (fifteen years ago)

i gotta say, as bad as this will be, it does have a lot of awesome character actors in it

i have no idea what its about though... some people are... angry about trains? idk

weed hitler poop fart obama (Princess TamTam), Saturday, 12 February 2011 03:51 (fifteen years ago)

This summer... Some people... Are ANGRY... ABOUT TRAINS

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Saturday, 12 February 2011 03:53 (fifteen years ago)

It's part 1 of 3 - the entirety of part 2 will be The Big Speech. Filmed in a single take a la Wavelength.

that's not funny. (unperson), Saturday, 12 February 2011 03:53 (fifteen years ago)

Considering the lack of a major distributor - the only company on the film's website is something called "The Strike" - I'd be impressed if this even makes Kirk Cameron Jesus Film money.

da croupier, Saturday, 12 February 2011 04:08 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah as someone who's never read a speck of Rand that trailer left me pretty confused.

IM SENDING IN MORE TRAINS.

Senor DingDong (Trayce), Saturday, 12 February 2011 04:12 (fifteen years ago)

haha from the site:

We're hard at work producing downloadable assets and putting the finishing touches on the Official Atlas Shrugged Movie web site, mobile applications, posters, banners and more. While we draw nearer to completion, the best way to get involved immediately is to link to us if you've got a web site or blog, follow us on twitter, visit with us on facebook, digg us, signup for our newsletter, and of course, spread the word by telling your friends.

two months before the release date - IT'S A RACE AGAINST TIME!!!!!

da croupier, Saturday, 12 February 2011 04:14 (fifteen years ago)

http://twitpic.com/3yqh7e

A+ promo campaign, guys

da croupier, Saturday, 12 February 2011 04:17 (fifteen years ago)

i just not so literally spit my drink out @ the screen

gallagher 3 (latebloomer), Saturday, 12 February 2011 07:13 (fifteen years ago)

i lol'd loud'ly

gallagher 3 (latebloomer), Saturday, 12 February 2011 07:13 (fifteen years ago)

This audio interview with Godfather producer Al Ruddy, about visiting Ayn Rand and trying to seal the deal on movie rights, is hilarious.

tantalizing titles like “Hair” (Eazy), Saturday, 12 February 2011 07:30 (fifteen years ago)

@empty00eyesgmail Indeed. The violent opposition is quite telling. Normally, people simply ignore things they don't like. But Atlas Shrugged causes stratospheric levels of hatred.

And they can't simply politely disagree either. Most of the time its bile-filled invective couched in the most utterly venomous terms.

I think this shows how significant the novel is. Good, bad, right or wrong is irrelevant; the book holds a prominent place in many political-ethical narratives.

studiodekadent 33 minutes ago

am0n, Saturday, 12 February 2011 07:38 (fifteen years ago)

LOL digby:

. . . we are supposed to root for the two most hottest hotties making super charged love on a fast moving train full of money. That's what Atlas Shrugged is really all about. They should have hired the people who wrote the Twilight series to really do it justice.

And I just can't buleeeve that Brad Pitt didn't fight for the role of a lifetime. Or anyone recognizable for that matter. What, Gary Sinese and Kelsey Grammer had scheduling difficulties? And I think Angie Harmon would have been fine as the toothsome Dagny if she could be spared from her obscure cable TV series. I guess the Hollywood liberal conspiracy runs so deep that they couldn't even hire the handful of quasi-famous C-list conservative celebrities for the most important wingnut movie of all time. Sad.

All you have to do is combine 1 to 7 with (a) to (d) and you should ha (Phil D.), Saturday, 12 February 2011 15:36 (fifteen years ago)

oh this looks great. part one of ten thousand, hopefully.

"this year, we all know who john galt is."

likely candidates:

  • steve urkel
  • the hamburglar
  • helena bonham carter
  • the most interesting man in the world (dos equis)

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 12 February 2011 19:42 (fifteen years ago)

lolling imo!!!

markers, Saturday, 12 February 2011 19:45 (fifteen years ago)

it's probably Marlon Brando tbh

fffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu (Z S), Saturday, 12 February 2011 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

i'd say dom deluise, but i think he's dead.

maybe dom deluise's son! he's the shlubby dad on some disney show iirc.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 12 February 2011 19:54 (fifteen years ago)

spoiler: john galt is john galt

am0n, Saturday, 12 February 2011 19:54 (fifteen years ago)

john galt is justin bieber

fffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu (Z S), Saturday, 12 February 2011 19:55 (fifteen years ago)

Dom DeLuise's son is the shlubby dad on Witches of Waverly Place!

It's pretty bad.

Y Kant Torres Red (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 February 2011 19:58 (fifteen years ago)

this has syndicated cable show production vibes

ice cr?m, Saturday, 12 February 2011 19:59 (fifteen years ago)

or maybe syfy original series

ice cr?m, Saturday, 12 February 2011 19:59 (fifteen years ago)

lol @syfy orgi

ENBB, Saturday, 12 February 2011 20:00 (fifteen years ago)

err orig

ENBB, Saturday, 12 February 2011 20:00 (fifteen years ago)

hah!

ice cr?m, Saturday, 12 February 2011 20:04 (fifteen years ago)

i like how the trailer overuses the "CHUNNNGGG" sound effect

lol @ 1:20

"maybe u should let me exp-"
"MAYBE U SHOULD LET ME FINISH SPEAKING"
*loud timpani hits*

am0n, Saturday, 12 February 2011 20:05 (fifteen years ago)

taxes on a train

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, February 11, 2011 3:10 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

I'M TIRED OF THESE MOTHERFUCKING TAXES ON THIS MOTHERFUCKING TRAIN!

symsymsym, Saturday, 12 February 2011 20:06 (fifteen years ago)

armin shimmerman!

― difficult listening hour, Saturday, February 12, 2011 12:44 AM (19 hours ago) Bookmark

YES

HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 12 February 2011 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

Dom DeLuise's son is the shlubby dad on Witches of Waverly Place!

haha

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 12 February 2011 20:54 (fifteen years ago)

I haven't read this (couldn't get past the first few agonizing pages), but is there anything keeping them from changing it to airplanes or space travel (a beanstalk etc)? I mean, railroads? Steel? Set in modern day?

Spencer Chow, Saturday, 12 February 2011 21:30 (fifteen years ago)

shoulda been light rail obv

HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 12 February 2011 22:02 (fifteen years ago)

Conservatives queue up for peek at 'Atlas Shrugged' at CPAC

Perhaps you should elbow your way into the standing-room-only conference room on the mezzanine level, where herds of eager viewers are preparing to watch a sneak preview of a selection of scenes from the long-awaited movie adaptation of Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged."

Because inasmuch as the audience is made up of a group of people who have organized their entire belief system around a novel, this screening ultimately amounts to the equivalent of a Harry Potter screening at Comic-Con.

"I heard Angelina Jolie was going to star," whispers one attendee to his seatmate who, like the whisperer, is wearing the accepted fan uniform of a business suit tempered with funky glasses and modified mutton chops. (Mutton chops = IN for conservatives! FreedomWorks founder Matt Kibbe has them; so does Myron Magnet). "Did you hear that?" His friend did not hear that.

The movie does not star Angelina Jolie, nor does it star Farrah Fawcett, Charlize Theron or Maggie Gyllenhaal, all of whom were, through decades of aborted adaptation attempts, rumored to be affiliated with various "Atlas Shrugged" projects.

It does star Taylor Schilling, who appeared in NBC's now-cancelled "Mercy," and Edi Gathegi, best known for appearing as a vampire in "Twilight" and one scene of its sequel, "New Moon," until his character was ripped apart by giant animatronic werewolves.

The film has not yet been picked up for distribution.

All you have to do is combine 1 to 7 with (a) to (d) and you should ha (Phil D.), Saturday, 12 February 2011 22:04 (fifteen years ago)

The film has not yet been picked up for distribution.

lol

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 12 February 2011 22:05 (fifteen years ago)

hahah ok i just watched this trailer hahahahah

HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 12 February 2011 22:09 (fifteen years ago)

hahahahhahah

HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 12 February 2011 22:10 (fifteen years ago)

hahahahahah

HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 12 February 2011 22:10 (fifteen years ago)

MAYBE U SHOULD LET ME FINISH SPEAKING

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 12 February 2011 22:12 (fifteen years ago)

viva la capitalist revolucion

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 12 February 2011 22:12 (fifteen years ago)

MAYBE U SHOULD LET ME FINISH SPEAKING

― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, February 12, 2011 10:12 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

i love that this is so played up

also

'how deep is the ocean

how high is the sky

................................whoisjohngalt'

HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 12 February 2011 22:15 (fifteen years ago)

i also love that its not 'ayn rand's classic novel' but v deliberately 'ayn rand's best-selling novel'

HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 12 February 2011 22:16 (fifteen years ago)

this summer
break
THE JOHN GALT CODE

HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 12 February 2011 22:17 (fifteen years ago)

maybe this summer kids will spraypaint "JOHN GALT LIVES" on freeway overpasses across america.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 12 February 2011 22:23 (fifteen years ago)

or maybe "JOHN GALT LIVES BUT REFUSES TO LEND HIS INDUSTRIAL GENIUS TO THE OPPRESSIVE ENGINE OF MEDIOCRITY THAT CONTROLS OUR GOV'T."

that's catchier.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 12 February 2011 22:24 (fifteen years ago)

Twitpic linked earlier is so terribly appropriate - it looks like something an angry 14-year old carves into his or her desk when the cool kids are mean.

boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Saturday, 12 February 2011 22:31 (fifteen years ago)

but is there anything keeping them from changing it to airplanes or space travel (a beanstalk etc)? I mean, railroads? Steel? Set in modern day?

aggressive and slavish fanbases FTL

Cunga, Saturday, 12 February 2011 22:33 (fifteen years ago)

they should double-down and make it about the horse-and-buggywhip industry.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 12 February 2011 22:34 (fifteen years ago)

how did i never know until now that angelina jolie is the daughter of jon voight?

kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Saturday, 12 February 2011 22:34 (fifteen years ago)

i have no idea! that's a crazy thing to not know, unless you're a sherpa in the himalayas

weed hitler poop fart obama (Princess TamTam), Saturday, 12 February 2011 22:41 (fifteen years ago)

she just adopted a sherpa so even they know now

ullr saves (gbx), Saturday, 12 February 2011 22:43 (fifteen years ago)

they should double-down and make it about the horse-and-buggywhip industry.

That should be the new trend in Hollywood: instead of "updating" old classics we take recent hits and put them in the time machine, make a cheap profit

"What we're pitching here is the 'The Hangover' but set in ancient Greece. Bradley Cooper wakes up from a Dionysian orgy to notice that his slaves are free and some Persian bandits raped his wife! Now he's gotta figure out what happened the night before!"

would make so much $$$

Cunga, Saturday, 12 February 2011 22:48 (fifteen years ago)

how did i never know until now that angelina jolie is the daughter of john galt?

ice cr?m, Saturday, 12 February 2011 23:35 (fifteen years ago)

Who's John Voight?

tantalizing titles like “Hair” (Eazy), Saturday, 12 February 2011 23:40 (fifteen years ago)

john voight is john galt.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 12 February 2011 23:52 (fifteen years ago)

dumbass conservative american actor xp

kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Saturday, 12 February 2011 23:55 (fifteen years ago)

'how deep is the ocean

how high is the sky

................................whoisjohngalt'

lol

am0n, Sunday, 13 February 2011 00:26 (fifteen years ago)

John Voight is the guy who previously owned George Costanza's car.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 13 February 2011 01:12 (fifteen years ago)

jon voight was really good as milo minderbinder and well i guess we found out why.

difficult listening hour, Sunday, 13 February 2011 01:15 (fifteen years ago)

ayn rand was fn paranoid

plax (ico), Sunday, 13 February 2011 04:17 (fifteen years ago)

also dagney taggart is such a pain in the arse

plax (ico), Sunday, 13 February 2011 04:17 (fifteen years ago)

i mean

plax (ico), Sunday, 13 February 2011 04:18 (fifteen years ago)

dagney

plax (ico), Sunday, 13 February 2011 04:18 (fifteen years ago)

really

plax (ico), Sunday, 13 February 2011 04:18 (fifteen years ago)

also lol does anyone remember the first scene of this book, sounds like a who's afraid of the dark intro

plax (ico), Sunday, 13 February 2011 04:19 (fifteen years ago)

one month passes...

man the buzz on this thing is volcanic. here's the ad for the training seminar:

http://www.moviepostr.com/img/movie/1255/atlas-shrugged-part-i-8538-poster-large.jpeg

Cosmo Vitelli, Monday, 4 April 2011 09:27 (fifteen years ago)

the buzz should be called... atlas plugged

dayo, Monday, 4 April 2011 09:33 (fifteen years ago)

Why is Armin Shimmerman in this? I thought he was a big pro-union guy.

phantoms from a world gone by speak again the immortal tale: (Jenny), Monday, 4 April 2011 12:29 (fifteen years ago)

He was also in "Delgo"...dude knows how to pick a movie.

Publicidad de Sexo (Abbbottt), Monday, 4 April 2011 13:08 (fifteen years ago)

QUAAAAAARRRRK!

phantoms from a world gone by speak again the immortal tale: (Jenny), Monday, 4 April 2011 13:51 (fifteen years ago)

Looks like a fucking Global Village modem icon from like 1993.

Anti-mist K-Lo (Phil D.), Monday, 4 April 2011 14:02 (fifteen years ago)

shd we change thread title to "without Angelina Jolie"?

your generation appalls me (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 April 2011 14:33 (fifteen years ago)

pg-13 FOR SOME SEXUALITY

Uteruses Before Duderuses (Johnny Fever), Monday, 4 April 2011 14:45 (fifteen years ago)

that is some sexuality, bro

your generation appalls me (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 April 2011 14:47 (fifteen years ago)

shd we change thread title to "without Angelina Jolie"?

I tried something else instead.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 April 2011 14:48 (fifteen years ago)

I'm just going to assume that every part will be played by Angelina Jolie and Megan Fox in a surprise tour de force performance.

whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Monday, 4 April 2011 14:50 (fifteen years ago)

Ebert review

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110414/REVIEWS/110419990

Alba, Thursday, 14 April 2011 22:42 (fifteen years ago)

The dialogue seems to have been ripped throbbing with passion from the pages of Investors’ Business Daily. Much of the excitement centers on the tensile strength of steel.

living up to expectations imo

VegemiteGrrl, Thursday, 14 April 2011 22:49 (fifteen years ago)

"rumpy-pumpy" is my favorite.

That's why they call me (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 14 April 2011 22:50 (fifteen years ago)

I don't know if it's Ebert or just that it's Atlas Shrugged that made me giggle all the way through that review

Also: this movie is Part 1? O_o

VegemiteGrrl, Thursday, 14 April 2011 22:53 (fifteen years ago)

this whole section = lol

The movie is constructed of a few kinds of scenes: (1) People sipping their drinks in clubby surroundings and exchanging dialogue that sounds like corporate lingo; (2) railroads, and lots of ’em; (3) limousines driving through cities in ruin and arriving at ornate buildings; (4) city skylines; (5) the beauties of Colorado. There is also a love scene, which is shown not merely from the waist up but from the ears up. The man keeps his shirt on. This may be disappointing for libertarians, who I believe enjoy rumpy-pumpy as much as anyone.

VegemiteGrrl, Thursday, 14 April 2011 22:54 (fifteen years ago)

never change, Rog

in my world of ugly tribadists (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 14 April 2011 22:54 (fifteen years ago)

i wonder which unlikely pleasures armond will find in this flick

Mordy, Thursday, 14 April 2011 22:57 (fifteen years ago)

"This is what 'Mad Men' should have been!"

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 April 2011 23:27 (fifteen years ago)

0% on RT so far

reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Friday, 15 April 2011 00:08 (fifteen years ago)

Went to see this in hopes it would be fun to review. Haven't written review yet, but jeeeeezus the movie is awful, awful, awful. Ebert is otm.

I went to a Friday matinee which was maybe half-full, obviously mostly Rand fans (and mostly geezers, of the Fox News variety). They applauded at the end, but didn't seem like their heart was in it. They did enjoy hissing when the snaky, sniveling union guy showed up.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 16 April 2011 14:34 (fifteen years ago)

Roy Edroso's review is pretty funny, too:

Taggart and Rearden are supposed to be important and accomplished producers of wealth, but we never see them doing anything productive. Rearden smiles as he watches steel poured in his foundry, and Taggart walks around purposefully with folders, but neither is shown engaged in actual work. In fact the filmmakers seem to go out of their way to avoid showing it: At one point Taggart appears outdoors at a worksite, and Rearden compliments her on her easy manner with the workers, but we never see Taggart actually interacting with them.

It's as if the filmmakers couldn't imagine such a thing (nor can I: "Hello, factotum, your brute strength is useful to my enterprise, keep up the good work!"). In fact, it's as if they thought that the sight of either character doing anything like what real executives do would spoil the effect. Because executives make deals, and Taggart and Rearden can't deal with anyone but each other; the only thing like negotiation they perform is their own meet-cute, in which haggling over price becomes a romantic pas des deux. Everyone else they encounter, besides subordinates, is unworthy of their efforts, and thus can only be browbeaten or belittled.

Consistent though this may be with Objectivist mythology -- noble producers standing among, but not of, ignoble looters -- it destroys any opportunity for actual drama. Atlas Shrugged has several villains, yet none of them is allowed to effectively challenge Ragny Dearden. The union boss and the government factotum are wusses who are easily glowered down; the director of the State Science Institute -- "the last science center on earth," we are informed, all the others having presumably been turned into global warming propaganda centers -- only appears to tell us how pathetic he is; and the D.C. players never even get to meet Tagny Raggart. It's like a version of The Dark Knight in which the Joker says "I don't understand you, Batman," and Batman says, "I don't think you'll ever understand, Joker," and the Joker slouches off to get drunk at the Ebbitt Grill while Batman smiles at his glistening Batmobile.

An A-Team of Apes. (Phil D.), Saturday, 16 April 2011 14:36 (fifteen years ago)

It's terribly made and acted, which I'm sure Randians will use as their excuse for why it bombs, but also putting her ideas on screen really shows how weird they are. It's like this bizarro-world movie, where you're supposed to understand that people who call other people "selfish" are bad, and the guy who's mean to his wife and says he's only out to make a shit-ton of money is supposed to be a hero.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 16 April 2011 14:37 (fifteen years ago)

(3) limousines driving through cities in ruin and arriving at ornate buildings; (4) city skylines; (5) the beauties of Colorado.

this could also describe big chunks of Cremaster

akm, Saturday, 16 April 2011 15:16 (fifteen years ago)

the D.C. players never even get to meet Tagny Raggart.

Ned's long-lost cousin.

Matt Groening's Cousin (Leee), Saturday, 16 April 2011 17:46 (fifteen years ago)

Argh.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 16 April 2011 17:48 (fifteen years ago)

Can we change your name to Nerd Raggart?

VegemiteGrrl, Saturday, 16 April 2011 18:20 (fifteen years ago)

wait NEDNY RAGGART

VegemiteGrrl, Saturday, 16 April 2011 18:20 (fifteen years ago)

tagned

beyond custos (absolutely clean glasses), Saturday, 16 April 2011 18:25 (fifteen years ago)

Hee hee

VegemiteGrrl, Saturday, 16 April 2011 18:26 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8MVFoiw-dw

Haha, the union rep.

reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Saturday, 16 April 2011 19:20 (fifteen years ago)

oh fuck this movie to hell.

circa1916, Saturday, 16 April 2011 19:34 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.avclub.com/articles/atlas-shrugged-part-i,54675/

Crazed Mister Handy (kingfish), Saturday, 16 April 2011 20:44 (fifteen years ago)

is dagny against contractions too

j., Sunday, 17 April 2011 06:02 (fifteen years ago)

Contractions are for lazy people who are not willing to work hard enough to say words.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 17 April 2011 12:57 (fifteen years ago)

Debuted at #14 on the box office with $1.67 million at 500 screens. Which is definitely better than I Can Hope They Serve Beer In Hell as far "word of mouth" indie releases based on infamous books go.

da croupier, Monday, 18 April 2011 14:33 (fifteen years ago)

Though it didn't get as much love as that Robin Wright movie about the Lincoln assassination

da croupier, Monday, 18 April 2011 14:35 (fifteen years ago)

It'll be just enough to cover justifying the direct-to-Netflix sequels.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 April 2011 14:35 (fifteen years ago)

Remembering their website, I'm actually impressed they got this thing in 500 screens

da croupier, Monday, 18 April 2011 14:36 (fifteen years ago)

Studios have been trying for decades to get the rights to this--doesn't bode well for a future Catcher in the Rye.

Four Shouters Shouting (Eazy), Monday, 18 April 2011 14:37 (fifteen years ago)

If they can get Carrie Underwood playing a kindly counselor to a munched-leg surfer into theaters, anything goes.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 April 2011 14:38 (fifteen years ago)

reactions from fans linked to on the movie's twitter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWNn_y8z9zU

da croupier, Monday, 18 April 2011 14:39 (fifteen years ago)

I thought she was a munched-arm surfer

fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Monday, 18 April 2011 14:39 (fifteen years ago)

Munched-limb. Better than mulched-limb.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 April 2011 14:40 (fifteen years ago)

that was "Fargo"

fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Monday, 18 April 2011 14:40 (fifteen years ago)

"all and all i thought it was a very good film, i'd rate it a two and a half out of four"

a lot of polite, eerily sedate enthusiasm in that clip. Tucker Max's fans seemed a little more jazzed, honestly.

da croupier, Monday, 18 April 2011 14:41 (fifteen years ago)

Clearly there needs to be a supermovie here involving Carrie Underwood as a pregnant Objectivist sheriff burying union bosses's limbs in the snow.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 April 2011 14:41 (fifteen years ago)

"BASICALLY a good movie!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luAW3K11OKM

da croupier, Monday, 18 April 2011 14:42 (fifteen years ago)

Based on the clip, they loved it, it was much better than Cats and they would go see it again and again.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 April 2011 14:42 (fifteen years ago)

"I knew I was going to hate it when it ended, and I did!"

"A good movie, pretty well made. It accurately showed a bunch of the book!"

"It's kind of scary because we're hearing that gobbledy-gook message already!"

Four Shouters Shouting (Eazy), Monday, 18 April 2011 14:43 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.atlasshruggedpart1.com/bracelet

Proudly made in the U.S.A., this anodized aluminium alloy bracelet is an exact replica of the Rearden Metal Bracelet worn by Taylor Schilling (Dagny Taggart) and Rebecca Wisocky (Lillian Rearden) in Atlas Shrugged Part I.

da croupier, Monday, 18 April 2011 14:44 (fifteen years ago)

http://citifield.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/yogurtdoll.jpg

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 April 2011 14:45 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.zazzle.com/official_atlas_shrugged_movie_mug-168930944000522348

da croupier, Monday, 18 April 2011 14:46 (fifteen years ago)

only $25!

http://www.zazzle.com/official_atlas_shrugged_movie_t_who_is_john_galt_tshirt-235520993135444374

da croupier, Monday, 18 April 2011 14:47 (fifteen years ago)

for the objectivist griller who has everything:

http://www.zazzle.com/official_atlas_shrugged_movie_apron-154695603008090812

da croupier, Monday, 18 April 2011 14:49 (fifteen years ago)

Really funny emo capitalist t-shirt there. A series of lines bitching about taxes.

Located in the Home > Government, Military > United States > United States > Issues > Patriotism section.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 18 April 2011 14:57 (fifteen years ago)

is "rumpy pumpy" a Chicagoism?

your generation appalls me (Dr Morbius), Monday, 18 April 2011 14:59 (fifteen years ago)

I hope not.

phantoms from a world gone by speak again the immortal tale: (Jenny), Monday, 18 April 2011 15:06 (fifteen years ago)

I thought that phrase came from Monty Python

fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Monday, 18 April 2011 15:12 (fifteen years ago)

More Blackadder, surely.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 April 2011 15:13 (fifteen years ago)

well the roommate I heard it from was obsessed with both

maybe it was a Long Island thing

fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Monday, 18 April 2011 15:14 (fifteen years ago)

This I fully believe.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 April 2011 15:16 (fifteen years ago)

Randroids working overtime to bloat RT's user ratings and turn up posi reviews on Google.

Trill Jockey (lpz), Monday, 18 April 2011 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

I don't know how much inflation would make a difference, but it did have a better per-screen average than Battlefield Earth.

da croupier, Monday, 18 April 2011 16:00 (fifteen years ago)

Rightwing blog roundup by Roy in the Village Voice. Comedy gold throughout.

An A-Team of Apes. (Phil D.), Monday, 18 April 2011 16:02 (fifteen years ago)

Saw it opening night with our two teenage sons. It was almost sold out...and in MASSACHUSETTS no less!! How many movies have you gone to where people clap at the end? (Not many for me.) After the movie, there where lots of groups hanging around and talking about the movie and its themes.....another rarity.

No matter what 'movie critics' may say, the power of this movie is undeniable. I liked the actors and the acting. I believe it would have been a huge misktake to cast a 'Tom Cruise' as Henry or some such nonsense.

As for the dialog....can we aspire to speak English better than we are in this 21st century world of ours? Should Dagny have said "OMG!" or "Oh no you di-nt"? It was refreshing to hear people speak like they did in the movie. Let's move away from our 'text-ing' speech and embrace our rich language.

omar little, Monday, 18 April 2011 16:03 (fifteen years ago)

Oh my gosh!, when that train goes over the bridge at 250 MPH it just takes your breath away and swells your heart with Hope and Pride for this country. Only one theatre in all of the Sarasota/ Bradenton FL area had the Steel, (as in Rearden Steel), to show this!

omar little, Monday, 18 April 2011 16:04 (fifteen years ago)

You're right about the train scenes, truly inspiring! That's because it was imagery, and imagery affects us in a roundabout, very effective way that we're not even aware of. Especially when imagery is combined with music - very effective, because we're hit through TWO SENSES at once, seeing and hearing.

It sneaks up on us, through the heart, not the brain, and effects us at a very basic level. You don't even know it's happening, all you know is you're watching the train go over the bridge at 250 mph and all of a sudden you spontaneously feel your heart swelling with hope and pride. Many people have said they were affected this way by that scene. Best thing in the movie!!

omar little, Monday, 18 April 2011 16:04 (fifteen years ago)

I enjoyed the stilted dialog. Being somewhat hard of hearing, that kind of dialog is exactly what folks need that have trouble understanding the dialog and speech used in the movies today. I don't go to movies because most of the dialog is spoken like the actors were sucking on cotton before they said their words. I used the theaters assisted listening device, (headphones) and I was able to hear every word, because the words were pronounced well, and with emphasis and meaning, and not with the dullness of 2011 dialog. Say what you wish about the stilted dialog, I will always prefer that to the muffled crap on the screen today. Great job, and I hope part 2 and 3 are just as stilted.

omar little, Monday, 18 April 2011 16:05 (fifteen years ago)

^^^ That's especially funny given how these people actually feel about high-speed rail. ("Trains?! What is this, Civil War times!!!???!!!") xxp

An A-Team of Apes. (Phil D.), Monday, 18 April 2011 16:06 (fifteen years ago)

Gotta find the rightblogger who pronounced it "Possibly the greatest movie ever made. I'd put it up there with Schindler's List and Saving Private Ryan."

Poe's Law is a real thing.

An A-Team of Apes. (Phil D.), Monday, 18 April 2011 16:07 (fifteen years ago)

TWO SENSES

goole, Monday, 18 April 2011 16:10 (fifteen years ago)

For a quick second I was all "Omar what is wrong with you" then I realized you were quoting.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 April 2011 16:10 (fifteen years ago)

Should Dagny have said "OMG!" or "Oh no you di-nt"?

where in Massachusetts is this person

fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Monday, 18 April 2011 16:15 (fifteen years ago)

Those are so great. These people are seeing movies for the first time.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 18 April 2011 16:30 (fifteen years ago)

TWO SENSES!!!

xxxp fuck, beaten

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Monday, 18 April 2011 16:45 (fifteen years ago)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_qni52g2FRDM/SHNth9SK5mI/AAAAAAAAAGA/VFNsxXkqJEQ/s400/Two_Princes_281x211.jpg

An A-Team of Apes. (Phil D.), Monday, 18 April 2011 16:54 (fifteen years ago)

haha

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Monday, 18 April 2011 16:56 (fifteen years ago)

That's because it was imagery, and imagery affects us in a roundabout, very effective way that we're not even aware of.

fuckin' imagery-
how does it work??

i can tina turner (elmo argonaut), Monday, 18 April 2011 17:22 (fifteen years ago)

seeing stuff with your eyes! what a world!!

omar little, Monday, 18 April 2011 17:25 (fifteen years ago)

box office mojo breakdown: http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3143&p=.htm

Favorite bit of context: it was distributor Rocky Mountain Pictures' third highest-grossing launch, behind End of the Spear and Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed.

da croupier, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 17:03 (fifteen years ago)

Maybe if this movie had a big star like Ben Stein in it, it would have done better

da croupier, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 17:04 (fifteen years ago)

TWO SENSES

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 17:05 (fifteen years ago)

the audience shrugged

D-40, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 17:13 (fifteen years ago)

We should try to do an ILX adap on an even lower budget

your generation appalls me (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 17:16 (fifteen years ago)

(a Kucharesque one)

your generation appalls me (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 17:16 (fifteen years ago)

cant get over 'made in the usa' bracelet lmao

D-40, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 17:17 (fifteen years ago)

okay i wanna be the train

A Zed and Two Nults (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 17:18 (fifteen years ago)

I like in the Onion AV Club write-up they lament that they can't say it "Has the momentum of a runaway train"

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 17:18 (fifteen years ago)

our version could be called Atlas Sharted

your generation appalls me (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 17:20 (fifteen years ago)

lol buncha xposts TOP 3 REASONS TO SEE THIS:

1. a screening sold out in Massachusetts
2. non-actors are better than professionals
3. OMG-free

Cosmo Vitelli, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 17:21 (fifteen years ago)

I think my favorite bit of dialogue in the movie is when they're on the SUPERTRANE and it gets up over 250 mph or something and Hank Rearden says, "That's faster than any train's ever gone in this country!" It made me think that some fact-checker had added the "in this country" bit. (Of course, European trains don't really count anyway because a.) they're built by socialist parasites and not great men like hank rearden; and b.) they travel in kilometers, which are not nearly as Great and Bold as miles.)

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 17:21 (fifteen years ago)

I wd like to be a shiny building of industry :D

VegemiteGrrl, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 17:24 (fifteen years ago)

You up for having concrete slathered all over your foundation?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 17:25 (fifteen years ago)

why yes

VegemiteGrrl, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 17:26 (fifteen years ago)

xxxp I don't think Euro trains go that fast either and Japan is just like fancy magic-land where everything is like a Studio Ghibli film so whatever, catbus-trains don't count

I like that the setting of this has dwindling resources making train travel a shiny futuristic thing again, cz I thought the very idea of dwindling resources was an impossible myth put about by socialists to scare honest god-fearing citizens out of buying nice things

(is this in the book or is it a hasty retro-fit to cover up for why there are no planes?)

dimension hatris (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 17:27 (fifteen years ago)

We should try to do an ILX adap on an even lower budget

Could do it like the compilations--different folks take different scenes and then we paste it together.

Four Shouters Shouting (Eazy), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 17:32 (fifteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_speed_record_for_rail_vehicles

jay lenonononono (abanana), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 17:37 (fifteen years ago)

xpost -- alternately, like this:

http://www.starwarsuncut.com/

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 17:38 (fifteen years ago)

Atlas Sharted

Tears of laughter here, A+

Hardcore Bangage (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 17:43 (fifteen years ago)

Me, too!

phantoms from a world gone by speak again the immortal tale: (Jenny), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 18:41 (fifteen years ago)

dibbs on being john gult and the answer to the question who is john gult

popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

the comments on the AV Club review are now over 1K

Crazed Mister Handy (kingfish), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 04:34 (fifteen years ago)

I'm sure this has been said before, but it deserves to be said multiple times.

Ayn Rand collected Social Security and Medicare under the name "Ann O'Connor".

Is this true? I guess the Tea Party is more Randian than i thought!

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 04:50 (fifteen years ago)

couple in front of me at the movie theater tonight bought 2 tickets for Atlas Shrugged. Resisted the urge to say "are you sure"?

VegemiteGrrl, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 04:56 (fifteen years ago)

Article about how the movie was marketed to Tea Partiers.

Four Shouters Shouting (Eazy), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 05:37 (fifteen years ago)

I remember seeing The Fountainhead many years ago (I was 13 or so, and I didn't know about Rand) and hating with all my guts Cooper's parasite speech (probably one of the reasons I still don't like him much).
Can't believe someone can take objectivism seriously (but I guess it could be appealing for some people even here in Italy).

Marco Damiani, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 09:18 (fifteen years ago)

Are they planning on marketing/releasing this film outside of North America? That would be truly hilarious.

lively and fuiud (Pashmina), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 09:50 (fifteen years ago)

Don't you just love (err...hate) the liberal critics of this movie? I'm reminded of the 1970s when critics panned the movie Jaws and said there was no such thing as a 20 foot great white shark. Guess Shark Week wasn't on the air in those days.

roffle roffle roffle roffle

lively and fuiud (Pashmina), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 09:51 (fifteen years ago)

xpost
I guess there are political factions in Europe that could be interested (that grey area where technocratic faith meets hate for central government - and it is not necessarily a right wing thing), but I think Rand's philosophy is too much of a joke to be taken seriously.
But who knows, maybe we'll have soon superfast objectivist trains running up and down the Italian boot too.

Marco Damiani, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 10:02 (fifteen years ago)

The Fountainhad trial speech, still authentically idiotic: the mix of badly digested Nietzsche, catastrophic tautology, stilted rhetoric and dumb arrogance reaches almost majestic heights.

"The creator stands on his own judgment. The parasite follows the opinions of others. The creator thinks, the parasite copies. The creator produces, the parasite loots. The creator's concern is the conquest of nature - the parasite's concern is the conquest of men. The creator requires independence, he neither serves nor rules. He deals with men by free exchange and voluntary choice. The parasite seeks power, he wants to bind all men together in common action and common slavery. He claims that man is only a tool for the use of others. That he must think as they think, act as they act, and live is selfless, joyless servitude to any need but his own. Look at history. Everything thing we have, every great achievement has come from the independent work of some independent mind. Every horror and destruction came from attempts to force men into a herd of brainless, soulless robots. Without personal rights, without personal ambition, without will, hope, or dignity. It is an ancient conflict. It has another name: the individual against the collective".

Marco Damiani, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 10:13 (fifteen years ago)

I love that speech mostly because Gary Cooper admitted he didn't know what he was saying, and looks it

da croupier, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 14:11 (fifteen years ago)

Don't you just love (err...hate) the liberal critics of this movie? I'm reminded of the 1970s when critics panned the movie Jaws and said there was no such thing as a 20 foot great white shark. Guess Shark Week wasn't on the air in those days

okay this needs reposting

fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 14:14 (fifteen years ago)

xpost It's like he's watching his mouth moving of its own accord.

da croupier, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 14:15 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc7oZ9yWqO4

his mouth says "my terms are a man's right to exist for his own sake" but his eyes say "HEEEEEEELLLLLPPPP"

da croupier, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 14:19 (fifteen years ago)

the mix of badly digested Nietzsche, catastrophic tautology, stilted rhetoric and dumb arrogance reaches almost majestic heights.

The same reason I always laugh when Rand fans complain that the field of philosophy is biased and wouldn't take her seriously: everything she said had been already said and analyzed to death by many other philosophers, and half of what she said/wrote wasn't even philosophy.

A is A!!

mh, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 14:28 (fifteen years ago)

his mouth says "my terms are a man's right to exist for his own sake" but his eyes say "HEEEEEEELLLLLPPPP"

quite possible! :)

Rand could be an effective novelist, even powerful in her obsessive way, but her philosophical efforts are plain terrible.

Marco Damiani, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 14:33 (fifteen years ago)

Every horror and destruction came from attempts to force men into a herd of brainless, soulless robots. Without personal rights, without personal ambition, without will, hope, or dignity. It is an ancient conflict. It has another name: the individual against the collective".

I wonder if Charles Manson read much Rand.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:15 (fifteen years ago)

Not like I'm saying anything new here, but my review, fwiw.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 16:45 (fifteen years ago)

Great job!

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 19:23 (fifteen years ago)

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljuxictB5d1qz6f9yo1_500.jpg

Four Shouters Shouting (Eazy), Thursday, 21 April 2011 15:56 (fifteen years ago)

how do you get the books out

The Everybody Buys 1000 Aerosmith Albums A Month Club (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 21 April 2011 15:59 (fifteen years ago)

WANT

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 21 April 2011 16:00 (fifteen years ago)

from cole-

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/05/nyregion/05deutsche.html?_r=2

A prosecutor at the trial of three construction supervisors charged in the deaths of two firefighters at the former Deutsche Bank building told the jury on Monday that the defendants had “put profit over people,” a decision that led to the deaths and put the lives of hundreds of firefighters, inspectors and workers at risk.

The three men, and the demolition contractor for which two of them worked, the John Galt Corporation, are charged with manslaughter and criminally negligent homicide.

the felonious against the corrective (Hunt3r), Thursday, 21 April 2011 20:39 (fifteen years ago)

Wow, the praxis of her 'philosophy'

Periblepsis occasioned by homoeoteleuton (Michael White), Thursday, 21 April 2011 20:49 (fifteen years ago)

"yes, your honor, but, 'profits over people', it's right on our masthead. i mean, i don't really understand where the prosecutor is going with this?"

goole, Thursday, 21 April 2011 20:52 (fifteen years ago)

it's also some kind of irony that rand's industrial heroes are all builders and engineers and scientist-creators and these guys run a demolition company

goole, Thursday, 21 April 2011 20:54 (fifteen years ago)

abjectivist

your generation appalls me (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 21 April 2011 21:24 (fifteen years ago)

lol

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 21 April 2011 22:32 (fifteen years ago)

http://wonkette.com/444005/nobodys-going-to-the-atlas-shrugged-movie

Atlas Shrugged: Part I has once again been eclipsed at the box office by the epic socialist propaganda romance Diary of a Wimpy Kid: Rodrick Rules, coming in at 18th and 17th, respectively.

Crazed Mister Handy (kingfish), Monday, 25 April 2011 17:42 (fifteen years ago)

hahah fuck yeah

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 01:41 (fifteen years ago)

Fin.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 04:33 (fifteen years ago)

This guy:

"Why should I put up all of that money if the critics are coming in like lemmings?" Aglialoro said. "I’ll make my money back and I'll make a profit, but do I wanna go and do two? Maybe I just wanna see my grandkids and go on strike."

Aglialoro, who is chief executive of the exercise equipment manufacturer Cybex, said he is not completely finished with Hollywood, however. An avid poker player who won the U.S. Poker Championship in 2004, he has a dramatic script called "Poker Room" in development. "Maybe the critics will be kinder to that one," he said.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 04:38 (fifteen years ago)

I do think it's bad that the New York Times didn't review it.

Alba, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 08:14 (fifteen years ago)

Transformers II was soundly panned by the critics but its fan based made it a huge hit. I'm sure Aglialoro thought, " hey Rand is a million selling author I can make my money back on her millions and millions of fans". Too bad her fame is bought by her institution they have been buying her books and donating them for a tax break.

"Every year, 400,000 copies of Rand’s novels are offered free to Advanced Placement high school programs. They are paid for by the Ayn Rand Institute, whose director, Yaron Brook, said the mission was “to keep Rand alive.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/15/business/15atlas.html?_r=4&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print

But according to ARI's website

In recent years, we have been pleased to see something of an “Ayn Rand
Renaissance”—as evidenced in part by the following:

* Sales of Ayn Rand’s books rose to more than 400,000 copies
annually—twenty years after her death."

Posted by: Dave | 04/26/2011 at 08:42 PM

roffles

popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 12:03 (fifteen years ago)

haha that article made me really sad

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 14:02 (fifteen years ago)

if money was all the Randroids wanted from this movie, they would've just released it straight to video so the Objectivists could beat their meat in private. the profits-über-alles jibber-jabber is camouflage for their proselytizing. it's like christian missionary work, only in reverse (kinda like how Objectivism is largely Christianity/Marxism in reverse).

Dziękuję bardzo panie robocie (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:12 (fifteen years ago)

Aglialoro, who is chief executive of the exercise equipment manufacturer Cybex

ha i'll remember this the next time i'm at the gym

goole, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:15 (fifteen years ago)

If you're at the gym they've already won.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:52 (fifteen years ago)

Atlas Benchpressed 250

no slouch of a snipster (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:56 (fifteen years ago)

more on dingbat producer:

http://www.salon.com/news/ayn_rand/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2011/04/27/atlas_sucks

and the NYT finally reviewed it! one of the B-critics, Carina Chocano.

“Atlas Shrugged: Part I” is rated PG-13 (Parents strongly cautioned). Some very bland sexuality and near-lethal levels of exposition.

http://movies.nytimes.com/2011/04/29/movies/atlas-shrugged-part-i-ayn-rands-opus-review.html

Lots of Galt-bots in Comments of course.

your generation appalls me (Dr Morbius), Friday, 29 April 2011 17:20 (fifteen years ago)

Only a thousand people saw Atlas Shrugged, but every one of them posted on the internet about it.

da croupier, Friday, 29 April 2011 17:25 (fifteen years ago)

bland sexuality is my new dance band

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 29 April 2011 17:46 (fifteen years ago)

Explore your blandsexuality.

more horses after the main event (Eazy), Friday, 29 April 2011 18:16 (fifteen years ago)

schadenfreude FTW

by another name (amateurist), Friday, 29 April 2011 20:11 (fifteen years ago)

six months pass...

http://blog.atlasshruggedmovie.com/2011/11/atlas-shrugged-inadvertently-releases.html

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Friday, 11 November 2011 19:14 (fourteen years ago)

Oneal has quite a bit of fun with it:

http://mobile.avclub.com/articles/atlas-shrugged-producers-boldly-release-unregulate,65031/?mobile=true

Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Friday, 11 November 2011 22:12 (fourteen years ago)

three months pass...

part 2 starts production next month:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies/2012/02/atlas-shrugged-part-2-shooting-april.html

the dried stigmas of the saffron crocus (get bent), Saturday, 10 March 2012 10:32 (fourteen years ago)

why is it that every libertarian i meet/read about is fucking awful with their money

if you ever leave me peggy, leave some propane at my door (zachlyon), Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:03 (fourteen years ago)

my roommate put a ron paul bumper sticker on his brand new BMW

if you ever leave me peggy, leave some propane at my door (zachlyon), Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:03 (fourteen years ago)

Hahahahahaha

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:04 (fourteen years ago)

i watched "part 1" last night and couldn't stop raising my fist and bellowing "PROGRESS!"

made me want to go galt all over progress island:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ1lLR4ePnE

the dried stigmas of the saffron crocus (get bent), Saturday, 10 March 2012 22:29 (fourteen years ago)

CAREER OPPORTUNITIES!!

http://blog.atlasshruggedmovie.com/p/jobs.html

"The ladder of success is best climbed by stepping on the rungs of opportunity."
- Ayn Rand

We’re hiring. The Atlas Shrugged Part II Marketing team has two immediate openings to fill.

INTERN
Full-time paid internship working with the marketing team in Beverly Hills, CA. Show us your creative writing skills by writing a brief 3 paragraph essay answering the question "Who is Ayn Rand?" Email your essay and contact info to: interns✧✧✧@atlasshruggedmo✧✧✧.c✧✧.

ART DIRECTOR
Full-time position working on the Atlas Shrugged Movie Marketing team (may work remotely). Must be proficient in Photoshop and Illustrator and posses depth of knowledge in Web related Graphics and design. HTML, CSS, and Usability huge pluses. Experience with Adobe Premiere helpful. Responsibilities to include evolving the foundational Atlas brand, creating collateral and assets for print & web. DO NOT send resume. Email ONLY links showcasing your work to: creat✧✧✧@atlasshruggedmo✧✧✧.c✧✧.

butvi wouls (Phil D.), Thursday, 15 March 2012 19:37 (fourteen years ago)

"evolving the foundational Atlas brand"

the kids of boris midney high (get bent), Friday, 16 March 2012 03:26 (fourteen years ago)

four months pass...

Well. Says it all.

http://blog.atlasshruggedmovie.com/2012/07/volunteers-wanted-dallas-tx.html

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 21:38 (thirteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

Saw a friendly acquaintance reading this last night, bummed me out. Question though: should I make an effort to read it first before trashing it? Seems the honest thing to do. Or should I just watch the movie? At least there's some rumpy pumpy in that, right?

Nothing cracks a turtle like Leeeon Uris (Leee), Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:44 (thirteen years ago)

dude, we've all read Atlas Shrugged, that's how we clown it

btw it's bad

your native bacon (mh), Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

I had a crush on a girl freshman year who was very sweet and reasonably bright but seemed to believe almost anything she read or that anyone told her. She had been raised evangelical christian family and was certain of the bible's truth, and then one day she came to me and told me that she had read this book by Ayn Rand and how it was completely obviously right about everything. Somehow this didn't contradict her view that the bible was also obviously absolutely right about everything. She later 'tried to kill herself', but called her brother to come 'say goodbye to her' before she did it (predictably, he stopped her from killing herself). Having a crush on her was like riding the slow boat through the "It's A Small World" ride except the people of each respective country throw some new kind of disgusting matter at you instead of greeting you with pleasant song.

Will Chave (Hurting 2), Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

tbf, the small world ride is pretty much horrible to begin with

your native bacon (mh), Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

one month passes...

http://bitcast-a.v1.lhr1.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/Atlas-Shrugged-Part-II-poster.jpg

New cast, new director, same atlas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF9QT43uDQU

DavidM, Thursday, 6 September 2012 18:45 (thirteen years ago)

slightly starrier cast this time around

Newgod joins this board, and quickly he's some dude (goole), Thursday, 6 September 2012 18:50 (thirteen years ago)

http://abovethelaw.com/2011/03/a-movie-recommendation-from-chief-judge-kozinski/

USADA Bin Dopen (dayo), Thursday, 6 September 2012 18:50 (thirteen years ago)

NOOOO Ray Wise NOOOOOO

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 September 2012 18:53 (thirteen years ago)

A: D.B. Sweeney.

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Thursday, 6 September 2012 18:59 (thirteen years ago)

I know, it's disappointing seeing Ray Wise in this. But, a job's a job, I guess?

DavidM, Thursday, 6 September 2012 18:59 (thirteen years ago)

Oh man, Caprica must have really broken Esai Morales. ;_;

carl agatha, Thursday, 6 September 2012 19:39 (thirteen years ago)

Dude playing Henry Rearden was the paraplegic in Monkey Shines!

da croupier, Thursday, 6 September 2012 20:43 (thirteen years ago)

So these Galtian supermen finally bringing Ayn Rand's glorious vision to the screen weren't bright enough to sign their cast to a multi-movie contract?

Darren Robocopsky (Phil D.), Friday, 7 September 2012 00:59 (thirteen years ago)

Who's the James Carville-lookin' guy who says "capitalism doesn't work"?

get you ass to mahs (abanana), Friday, 7 September 2012 03:14 (thirteen years ago)

Having a crush on her was like riding the slow boat through the "It's A Small World" ride except the people of each respective country throw some new kind of disgusting matter at you instead of greeting you with pleasant song.

How did this pass without comment, this is hilarious.

frances boredom coconut (Trayce), Friday, 7 September 2012 04:11 (thirteen years ago)

Who's the James Carville-lookin' guy who says "capitalism doesn't work"?

He was on ER for years and years, and then he got killed when a helicopter fell on him.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 7 September 2012 05:28 (thirteen years ago)

(on the show, not irl)

Johnny Fever, Friday, 7 September 2012 05:28 (thirteen years ago)

I have seen maybe three episodes of ER In my life and that was one of them.

carl agatha, Friday, 7 September 2012 12:12 (thirteen years ago)

one month passes...

Bet the sequel will do well this weekend, lots more advertising than the last one and Ryan-mentum too.

pretty even gender split (Eazy), Friday, 12 October 2012 18:27 (thirteen years ago)

there's a hilarious TV commercial going on about "is this the movie that will DECIDE THE ELECTION!?"

some dude, Friday, 12 October 2012 18:37 (thirteen years ago)

completely tanked in wide release, barely did better than the first

libertarians of the nation really voting with their dollars

I have done bad. I love my pj's. (zachlyon), Saturday, 13 October 2012 20:47 (thirteen years ago)

it's only playing in one theatre around here, for a midnight show.

sriracha bishop (get bent), Saturday, 13 October 2012 21:15 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.avclub.com/articles/atlas-shrugged-part-iithe-strike,86633/

Here's the Av Club review, and the commenters are quite enjoying themselves

the max in the high castle (kingfish), Saturday, 13 October 2012 21:18 (thirteen years ago)

Atlas ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

pretty even gender split (Eazy), Sunday, 14 October 2012 00:35 (thirteen years ago)

"atlas shrugged, audiences follow suit"

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 14 October 2012 03:26 (thirteen years ago)

five months pass...

http://mobile.avclub.com/articles/producers-of-atlas-shrugged-movies-stand-up-for-se,95476/

Both previous installments in Ayn Rand’s vision of a world righted by corporate shit-fits have earned far less than they cost, taking in a combined $8 million at the box office for the approximately $30 million that was spent on them. Such numbers would lead most filmmakers to see this as an edict from the free market to just yield their work to some other’s control already, were they not still subscribed to Rand’s definition of objective thinking as “harboring hate-filled petulance for things that get in your way.”

The New Jack Mormons! (kingfish), Tuesday, 26 March 2013 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

So the final movie is just going to be some guy talking, yeah?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 March 2013 21:37 (thirteen years ago)

i still need to watch the second one.

polyphonic, Tuesday, 26 March 2013 21:41 (thirteen years ago)

you may have a distorted understanding of the definition of "need"

the pheromones of hot clothing (DJP), Tuesday, 26 March 2013 21:44 (thirteen years ago)

duh

polyphonic, Tuesday, 26 March 2013 21:45 (thirteen years ago)

five months pass...

http://www.avclub.com/articles/atlas-shrugged-producers-turn-to-kickstarter-for-h,103253/

The 3rd film has already been funded, but the producers have taken to Kickstarter to raise 250-large to raise awareness and piss off "haters", expressly violating the Kickstarter TOS.

And I love any Newswire bit that lets Oneal cram as many jokes at Ayn Rand into a post as possible.

Your Own Personal El Guapo (kingfish), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 02:26 (twelve years ago)

ok was at a party at a friend's house and they turn on the tv to hit up itunes via whatever media system and we momentarily see the netflix queue and both atlas shruggeds are on there.

i'm actively trying to pretend this never happened because i like the dude a bunch but yow.

Saul Goodberg (by Musket and Pup Tent) (s.clover), Sunday, 6 October 2013 06:43 (twelve years ago)

didn't wanna say 'i hope those are ironic' because what if they aren't really i'm too old to engage in a serious discussion with someone who isn't horrified by ayn rand about her work

Saul Goodberg (by Musket and Pup Tent) (s.clover), Sunday, 6 October 2013 06:44 (twelve years ago)

enh, I mean I could see watching it not ironically but out of genuine interest in badness, I mean voluntarily watched battlefield earth and read NRO from time to time just to keep tabs and such

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Sunday, 6 October 2013 23:16 (twelve years ago)

i suspect every tech person whose politics i don't know is secretly a way out libertarian. it turns out to be the case depressingly often :-(

Saul Goodberg (by Musket and Pup Tent) (s.clover), Thursday, 10 October 2013 03:50 (twelve years ago)

Where I live it's pretty much a guarantee.

goth drama is universal (latebloomer), Thursday, 10 October 2013 04:02 (twelve years ago)

eight months pass...

http://www.yahoo.com/movies/ron-paul-to-make-acting-debut-in-part-3-of-atlas-89270143262.html

Now featuring: Ron Paul! Sean Hannity! Glenn Beck!

Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Thursday, 19 June 2014 17:55 (eleven years ago)

In each of these films, Dagny and Hank are played by different actors. This time ROB MORROW is playing Hank? Really?

polyphonic, Thursday, 19 June 2014 18:11 (eleven years ago)

I wonder if I should watch the first one for Piper Chapman now?

Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Thursday, 19 June 2014 18:24 (eleven years ago)

Since I watched it first, I always think OITNB is about a bunch of ladies who went galt.

polyphonic, Thursday, 19 June 2014 18:26 (eleven years ago)

Would like to see a Northern Exposure episode where the cast does a community-theater production of Atlas Shrugged. True to Alaska, and Janine Turner would probably be down for it.

heavy on their trademark ballads (Eazy), Thursday, 19 June 2014 21:42 (eleven years ago)

Thinking of Janine Turner now makes the teenage me sad.

lauded at conferences of deluded psychopaths (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 19 June 2014 22:04 (eleven years ago)

one month passes...

I don't know why I'm surprised that this has made it to a second, risible looking sequel, but anyway. Trailer:

http://youtu.be/GSJNU41h5Cg

painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Tuesday, 12 August 2014 16:05 (eleven years ago)

can't believe you need three movies for one shitty book

everybody loves lana del raymond (s.clover), Friday, 15 August 2014 00:22 (eleven years ago)

#hobbit

polyphonic, Friday, 15 August 2014 00:26 (eleven years ago)

You saying Peter Jackson is ghost-directing this?

OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLEEE (Leee), Friday, 15 August 2014 00:51 (eleven years ago)

three weeks pass...

http://www.salon.com/2014/09/11/sean_hannity_and_glenn_beck_in_a_bizarre_ayn_rand_fever_dream/

You and Dad's Army? (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 11 September 2014 23:29 (eleven years ago)

three years pass...

lol the cast was like completely different in all three movies

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Saturday, 9 December 2017 17:34 (eight years ago)

I would watch a filmed version of Telemachus Sneezed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=175&v=AH9ufx-Wq3w

Sanpaku, Saturday, 9 December 2017 18:08 (eight years ago)

five months pass...

Zack Snyder has confirmed his next project will be an adaptation of Ayn Rand's THE FOUNTAINHEAD. pic.twitter.com/HiBhQTgkld

— Talk Film Society (@TalkFilmSoc) May 28, 2018

Truly the man to do it justice.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 28 May 2018 22:29 (eight years ago)

knowing he’d willingly make an Ayn Rand adaptation pretty much explains his whole film career

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Monday, 28 May 2018 23:53 (eight years ago)

If ever a couple of hideous cunts deserved each other, it's rand and snydet.

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 00:41 (eight years ago)

Kind of a perfect storm of material and director. A match made in Crap Heaven!

Won’t lie, I am kinda stoked.

latebloomer, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 03:41 (eight years ago)

It always irritates me to go to a bookstore and see Ayn Rand shelved with the "Classics". She's just so irretrievable bad.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 03:49 (eight years ago)

Won’t lie, I am kinda stoked.

Yeah, I'm kinda down with Snyder going as vulgar as possible with this. I hope he believes he is a Howard Roark.

jmm, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 04:07 (eight years ago)

someone should make the best ever period 50s/60s sex farce out of my years with ayn rand, the bildungsmemoir by one of her ahem "circle" who eventually broke with her philosophy and went on to (wait for it) found the self-help movement. not always intentionally one of the most revealing books i've ever read. don't even mean primarily about ayn rand. but about her too: jesus christ.

even now it is most likely uncool to give a shit but 300 remains prob the fashest movie i've ever seen, triumph of the will included. you long for the melancholy ambiguity of death wish

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 04:14 (eight years ago)

guys this is probably the best news i've had in months - american cinema's most meanspirited, meagre direcor takes on one of the 20th century's most indefensible novels! what could be more entertaining?

i am fast and full of teeth. i willl die in a barn fire (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 12:49 (eight years ago)

I was prepared to physically carry you to this thread if you didn't stumble upon it yourself.

I really like the acting, dialogue and especially the scenes (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 12:52 (eight years ago)

As a fan of massive lulz this is great news

Karius whisper (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 12:52 (eight years ago)

The original movie is pretty excellent if you've never seen it

Karius whisper (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 12:54 (eight years ago)

It always irritates me to go to a bookstore and see Ayn Rand shelved with the "Classics". She's just so irretrievable bad.

Black cover Penguin classic :(

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 12:54 (eight years ago)

I was prepared to physically carry you to this thread if you didn't stumble upon it yourself.

i felt a great disturbance in the luminerferous aether and was irresistably compelled to investigate

i am fast and full of teeth. i willl die in a barn fire (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 12:56 (eight years ago)

Don't know if Zack's looking for notes but Tom Cruise was born to play Roark

Karius whisper (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 12:57 (eight years ago)

nailed it

i am fast and full of teeth. i willl die in a barn fire (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 12:58 (eight years ago)

Arm0nd's review is legitimately going to be a masterpiece and is actually already written.

nourish nourish your turtleheart (Eric H.), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 12:59 (eight years ago)

i just can't wait to see how snyder, who is perhaps second only to michael bay in the cinematic-adhd stakes, handles endless scenes of extremely tedious dialogue

i am fast and full of teeth. i willl die in a barn fire (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 13:01 (eight years ago)

isn't vince vaughn a big libertarian shithead? he'd probably kill to play roark

i am fast and full of teeth. i willl die in a barn fire (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 13:03 (eight years ago)

Surely Snyder could have a Dr. Parnassus-esque rotating cast of alpha dudes playing the role.

I really like the acting, dialogue and especially the scenes (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 13:08 (eight years ago)

I wonder if Jon Hamm would do it.

jmm, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 13:47 (eight years ago)

Gary Cooper will be tough to beat

Karius whisper (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 13:50 (eight years ago)

It'll almost certainly be Cavill, won't it. I can feel it.

I really like the acting, dialogue and especially the scenes (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 13:52 (eight years ago)

John Cena

nourish nourish your turtleheart (Eric H.), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 13:53 (eight years ago)

I could never hack the Cooper version w/out MST3K, let alone reading Rand

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 13:56 (eight years ago)

but the man was born to play fascists tbf

Karius whisper (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 13:57 (eight years ago)

Courtroom scene: Roark monologues for two minutes before Zack gets bored. Cut to zoom-in shot of a jar of urine. Cut to Roark dynamiting the courthouse with all the socialists inside.

jmm, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 14:04 (eight years ago)

John Cena

― nourish nourish your turtleheart (Eric H.), Tuesday, May 29, 2018 8:53 AM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Misread this as 'Jon Secada' and nearly sprayed a mouthful of coffee across my monitor.

I really like the acting, dialogue and especially the scenes (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 14:11 (eight years ago)

It'll almost certainly be Cavill, won't it. I can feel it.


cavill seems like a total dick irl so there’s a decent chance he’s already a rand fan tbh

you know who i really want for this? paul ryan

i am fast and full of teeth. i willl die in a barn fire (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:26 (eight years ago)

I think I'd be willing to wager a good deal of money that there's a videotape in existence containing a homemade adaptation of The Fountainhead starring Paul Ryan.

I really like the acting, dialogue and especially the scenes (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:38 (eight years ago)

Or, at the very least, a dog-eared copy of the book with many instances of 'Roark Ryan' throughout.

I really like the acting, dialogue and especially the scenes (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:39 (eight years ago)

It always irritates me to go to a bookstore and see Ayn Rand shelved with the "Classics". She's just so irretrievable bad.

― A is for (Aimless), Monday, May 28, 2018 10:49 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Really she belongs in self-help. Self-help for complete assholes who want to feel ok about being assholes.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:45 (eight years ago)

two months pass...

When the first Atlas Shrugged film came out they asked for fans to say "I am john galt" to add to a dvd extra. The results are some of the best, most strange youtube videos you'll ever see pic.twitter.com/lVoSSSyQ0h

— Cruiskeen Lawnmower Deth (@NoChorus) August 11, 2018

Karl Malone, Sunday, 12 August 2018 03:35 (seven years ago)

Strangely, there was only one in that group of a couple dozen youtubes that featured a person of color, at least that I noticed.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 12 August 2018 03:51 (seven years ago)


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