Doctor who has lost his ways or they seriously need new scriptwriters (Contains Speculation, Spoilers, Space Crabs)

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The Latest series of Doctor who is utter crap. Rose needs to be electrocuted, THe doctor needs rewiring. The scriptwriters need a firing squad. I mean its just so fucking poor quality, No real elements of SCi Fi, and whoever said the doctor lived on earth? the episodes are boring predictable and dull, Give me Talons or City of Death any day. The last series was great, the last doctor was interesting and a quality actor, rose was tolerable. Now she seems a cardboard cut out version of her previous, already verging on the vapid, self. Get the writers to concentrate on some otherworldy content, I am sick of this pissy empathy crap. The doctors manic ways are cool, but he diverts to much into this soppy sentimentalist. It could have been so good and dark, but it turns out to be a light and fluffy hit and miss series.

― gimli (orc11), Monday, 25 September 2006 00:52 (nineteen years ago)

omg. this is the only telly i never miss. i love it!

― gem (trisk), Monday, 25 September 2006 00:54 (nineteen years ago)

I totally thought this was going to be a thread about a wayward doctor the poster had who had really horrible handwriting and needed someone new to write prescriptions for them. Seriously.

― Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Monday, 25 September 2006 01:07 (nineteen years ago)

I thought I had started this thread drunk, and just forgotten about it.

I watched Warriors Of The Deep yesterday, and even it was better than anything in "Series 2".

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Monday, 25 September 2006 08:04 (nineteen years ago)

Girl in the Fireplace and Love & Monsters were both great, and I enjoyed the Cybermen two-parter in a cheesy action movie kind of a way.

― chap who would dare to contain two ingredients. Tea and bags. (chap), Monday, 25 September 2006 12:18 (nineteen years ago)

Love & Monsters would be a suitable winner for WORST WHO EVER except it was outdone a couple of weeks later by Fear Her.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Monday, 25 September 2006 12:30 (nineteen years ago)

What do you mean, "even it"??? "Warriors Of The Deep" is flat-out awesome! That whole season is awesome! (The gag in "Frontios" about Tegan being a malfunctioning robot = genius A++)

― Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Monday, 25 September 2006 12:31 (nineteen years ago)

I mean even because it has the PANTOMIME HORSE OF DOOM, and my new favourite line - "Is the (horrible item of death and destruction ready?" < silurian looks in box > "Yes."

Plus a couple of the new Sea Devils have their heads on sideways at one point, the polystyrene doors, the drowning sequence, MISSILE COMMAND...

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Monday, 25 September 2006 12:37 (nineteen years ago)

The HORSE OF DOOM looks drunk, yeah, but the whole episode really revolves around Turlough attempting to leave people to their grizzly fates.

― Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Monday, 25 September 2006 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

([email protected])

Maybe they need you onboard as director. Alan Pillay as Doctor, Kate Bush as assistant.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 25 September 2006 12:41 (nineteen years ago)

'Love And Monsters' is the 'Rudebox' of Doctor Who stories.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 25 September 2006 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

(hahaha WOTD would be even better if bears kept jumping out at people, wtf typo)

― Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Monday, 25 September 2006 12:45 (nineteen years ago)

Ingid Pitt would just do really crap karate on them.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Monday, 25 September 2006 12:48 (nineteen years ago)

I'd totally forgotten that I never really liked Dr Who that much, until I saw an episode recently.

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 25 September 2006 12:48 (nineteen years ago)

Seriously aldo, you are just reminding me of exactly how much I love this story. Its unbelievably amateurish execution is completely offset by the full-scale brutality of the plot; I don't think anyone in the supporting cast survives the story's ending (except maybe the heroic younger dude from the base?) and that last shot completely drops the hammer on you after much of the nonsense (like the aforementioned karate, roffle roffle).

― Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Monday, 25 September 2006 12:52 (nineteen years ago)

It's certainly representative of all of the Eric Saward era in that respect. As with all that series, the stories are uniformly excellent but let down by the production values. The base just doesn't look anything like Johnny Byrne must have envisaged it.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Monday, 25 September 2006 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

Resurrection of the Daleks is not excellent.

I think Dan is more right about WOTD, the pantomime horse didn't look as bad as it had been built up to be.

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 25 September 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

I remember really digging WOTD when it first aired, I must've been eight or something.

― chap who would dare to contain two ingredients. Tea and bags. (chap), Monday, 25 September 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

Just looked it up, I was six.

― chap who would dare to contain two ingredients. Tea and bags. (chap), Monday, 25 September 2006 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

Resurrection of the Daleks WAS awesome! So much death! "It's not FUN anymore!!!" Most wrenching companion exit ever!

I think it's kind of hilarious that TURLOUGH is the Davison companion whose story arc had the happiest ending.

― Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Monday, 25 September 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

Nyssa was delighted with her leper work!

The last bit of RotD is pretty good but it doesn't make up for the total nonsense of the first 3 episodes (OK, 1.5 episodes)

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 25 September 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

I will admit I haven't seen ResotD in something like 23 years so nostalgia might be making me think it was better than it actually was.

Also, becoming king >>>>> frolicking with lepers.

― Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Monday, 25 September 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

Rodney Bewes is pretty great throughout it.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Monday, 25 September 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

Resurrection of the Daleks WAS awesome!

they should have just let leslie grantham loose with his webcam, that would have sorted them daleks out

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Monday, 25 September 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

Which big veteran British TV actors/actresses to appear in new Who then RTD?

"Ah durn't really nurrr!"

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

and 'Lady Thaw'? OH NOES, DYS 'ICE WARRIOR' BASED PUNS A GO GO

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

From RTD interview:

People will say, 'Why doesn't he visit alien planets more often?'" he said. "But that's because they are expensive. They're hugely expensive."

Davies also told Doctor Who magazine that these episodes gained the lowest viewing figures of the series.

"The programmes that do show alien planets are not prime-time programmes," he said.

"Star Trek and Stargate are subscription-based programmes for a dedicated audience."

― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Thursday, 28 September 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

Davies also told Doctor Who magazine that these episodes gained the lowest viewing figures of the series.

largely because of the World Cup no? it's a ridiculous excuse. does he really think the majority of people who watch Doctor Who (people well aware of the original show and it's concepts) think "tonight's story....alien planet? oooooooooh naaaaaaaaah"

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 28 September 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

honestly though unless they can get the budget to do alien planets convincingly, it's only going to add to the perception that dr. who = cheap looking rubbish

― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 28 September 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

big stupid CGI devil vs painting a quarry

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 28 September 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

plus using the 'lots of planets have a north' logic they can always contend that many life-supporting planets out there would resemble Earth. they don't have to be bizarre alternative realms - although if they were to do it they'd be wise to avoid the lazy cliche of mentioning the same planet as having the same terrain/environment/climate the world over.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 28 September 2006 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

I'm totally fed up with so many stories being set in London. GO TO SOME PLANETS!

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 28 September 2006 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

ha go to london! bloody bbc wales

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Thursday, 28 September 2006 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

i bet even the Ice Warriors one will be set in London

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 28 September 2006 21:15 (nineteen years ago)

The main stories are def set in London all the time so Stevem is probably right. How long til the audiences drop because everyone gets fed up with the london stories?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 28 September 2006 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

if the stories are good enough, just having a scene where Tennant explains the TARDIS is fucked and can only move through time but not space (hence stuck in the capital), might placate the furious whovian masses

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 28 September 2006 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

Nah everyone would just say that was a shit excuse!
If Tennant was allowed to speak in his normal accent it might be a bit better too. Ecclestones accent hardly hurt viewing figures so why Tennant wasn't allowed to use his is beyond me. He's not exactly Rab C Nesbitt.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 28 September 2006 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

at least it would be more understandable than 'oh we keep going to London, but refer to crazy old planets like Woman Wept(!) now and then just to annoy you'

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 29 September 2006 08:39 (nineteen years ago)

i heart RotD for its utter bonkersness and "him off the telly"ness. i have said this before. very few of the recent 2 series are as bad as ppl say (tho there ARE some stinkers) in that they are consistently better than re-watching old stuff. fans saying grr i'd rather watch Warriors of the Deep, or Seeds of Doom should be beaten with sticks.

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Friday, 29 September 2006 12:34 (nineteen years ago)

Stories are surely set in London so that Rose/Mickey had a link to Earth and to places they are familiar with and it anchors them (and hence the viewer) in the storyline - weird things happen to normal people in a familiar place. Martha is going to have a family too, so I can't see it changing any time soon.

(though the Torchwood Estate was in Scotland and Boomtown was in Cardiff and the Girl in the Fireplace was in France, so it's not all London for the Earth-based ones, y'know)

Why would Tennant speaking in his West of Scotland accent make it any better? I think the consensus upthread was that his generic English accent was OK, and his accent is not even remotely instrinsic to the plot.

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 29 September 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

I dunno Alan it really does depend on the old stuff. I thought that too until I started watching some old ones again recently.

New Series 1 - better than all but the very very best old ones.
New Series 2 - on a level with most of the good old ones, better in places, worse in places.

The main difference between NS2 and the old stuff is conciseness, and because acting fashions have changed in the last 20 years you get more naturalistic acting now, but not necessarily better acting.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 29 September 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

I totally thought this was going to be a thread about a wayward doctor the poster had who had really horrible handwriting and needed someone new to write prescriptions for them. Seriously.

It reads like a cryptic crossword clue.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 September 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

Oh let's not forget they even made it as far as NORWAY for that final episode too.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 29 September 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

Norway, looking suspiciously like pembrokeshire on a wet afternoon with the saturation turned down

― Ed (dali), Friday, 29 September 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

i maintain that lots of planets must look like pembrokeshire on a wet afternoon with the stauration turned down.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 29 September 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

Does the original poster want the Doctor to visit middle earth?

― GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Friday, 29 September 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

All alien planets looking like pembrokeshire on a wet afternoon with the stauration turned down vs all alien planets looking like a quarry somewhere near Leicester.

― chap who would dare to contain two ingredients. Tea and bags. (chap), Friday, 29 September 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

vs all space stations looking like an NHS trust reception area with chrome decals

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 29 September 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

Or all planets looking like a forest in Vancouver. I'm looking at you, Sci-Fi channel.

― GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Friday, 29 September 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

Or medieval Europe looking like Southern Califonia. I'm looking at you, classical era Hollywood.

― chap who would dare to contain two ingredients. Tea and bags. (chap), Friday, 29 September 2006 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

The news over the weekend that [insert name of recurring enemy that I won't name for fear of spoiling people who don't want spoiled] are in the New York episodes (4 and 5) make this thread title more accurate than ever.

RTD writing 8 or 9 of the series.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Monday, 13 November 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

New York episodes?!

― 2 american 4 u (blueski), Monday, 13 November 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

I want spoilers! Shove us a link or something, cheers.

― chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Monday, 13 November 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

BBC have come down hard on the pictures, haven't been able to track them down again since they were deleted where I saw them.

The answer though is daleks. Sometimes de-travel-suited, in the New York sewers, Depression era. Currently obliquely mentioned on the Torchwood website. Some photos have emerged of the Hooverville they've built in a Cardiff park for the episodes.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/52814101@N00/295511689/

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

i don't see what's so bad about that

― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

Daleks = use other villains please.

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

(i.e. it's pointless the Doctor defeating every last Dalek, hurrah, oh, woops, here they come again)

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

I'm intrigued as to how RTD will indulge his 'blowing the glass off massive buildings' fetish in New York without provoking outrage.

Charlie Brooker was right about how Nu-Who needs a new really menacing and scary alien army to match the Daleks and Cybermen. Not the Slitheen though (although I bet they'll be back).

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

personally I like the sound of that story, but yeah, we could do without Daleks for at least a series. They would be allowed if Davros tagged along though.

xpost - EMERGENCY TEMPORAL SHIFT!

― chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

Taxi for russell t davies.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

so is Torchwood just an excuse for writers to create a doctor who style series with the flexibility they need to prevent grumpy 40-something Who fans complaining about 'not enough daleks'?

and twice in pub quizzes have i encountered torchwood/doctor who anagram questions. thanks to ilx i got them right.

― Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/listings/programme.shtml?day=today&filename=20061113/20061113_1910_4544_25961_50&service_id=4544

Doctor Who
Spearhead from Space

1&2/4

Jon Pertwee stars in a classic story from 1970. The newly-regenerated Doctor is discovered by UNIT troops as the Earth comes under attack from an alien consciousness. [S]

Part of BBC FOUR's Science Fiction Britannia season.

Mon 13 Nov, 19:10-20:00 50mins Mono

― Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

What we need now is CGI Sea Devils.

― chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

People are saying what I would have posted. It sounds like an interesting story, but after last series' shoehorning of daleks in (let's face it, they added nothing to the plot except camp bitching) it just looks desperate.

Adds weight to the rumours that that Nation estate only allowed RTD to use the daleks if they were in every series, doesn't it?

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

camp bitching >>>> whatever the plot of 'Doomsday' was in the end

― 2 american 4 u (blueski), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

Nu-Who needs a new really menacing and scary alien army to match the Daleks and Cybermen

It has had a few decent new villains (The Empty Child, the clockwork robots) but these have been non-recurring by their very natures.

― chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

How come they haven't announced a fourth season yet, by the way? The third one was announced before the first had even ended. It's such a flagship/relative ratings success that I'm sure they want to do one - is it down to actors getting cold feet, maybe?

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

i'd bring the Sycorax back in some way, even just a bit-part in an alien planet story perhaps.

maybe The Devil will come back. he deserves a better 'death' than having his seat belt unbuckled by Monkey Girl.

― 2 american 4 u (blueski), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

I thought they had confirmed a fourth season already but maybe not.

― 2 american 4 u (blueski), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

Can't they bring back Tony Head? I was so excited to see him, I really hoped he was going to be the new Master or something. It would be a shame to just use him the once. Of course, maybe he's sick and tired of making campy sci fi shows and wants to be a grownup.

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

The Daleks have appeared in the vast majority of seasons, though, haven't they? It's more that it's hubris on RTD's part to say "Now we have definitely killed all of them" and expect anyone to believe him. Which of course he isn't even saying - emergency temporal shift indeed!

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

4th season news should be timed for the xmo special publicity i'd've thought

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

Have appeared in seasons:

1, 2 (twice!), 3, 4 (twice!) ("killed off forever" at end of Evil of Daleks)

9, 10, 11, 12 (not killed off in Genesis but story designed to be the 'ultimate' Dalek yarn)

17 (sets up latter-day status quo w Davros et al)

20, 22, 25 ("killed off forever" by McCoy)

TV Movie (I think - still never seen it)

27 (twice!), 28, 29 apparently ("killed off forever" before AND during series 27)

So just over half, counting the new series.

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

PH34R THE SADNESS.

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

TV Movie (I think - still never seen it)

the McGann one?! they're not in that

― 2 american 4 u (blueski), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

They're not in the TV movie - one wonders whether something to do with RIGHTS kicked in? Mmm lovely wiggy McGann.

Anyway I thought this thread was going to be about 'Doctors'.

vworp vworp

― Bhumibol Adulyadej (Lucretia My Reflection), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

Doctor who has lost his keys/CD of 'Astral Weeks'/mojo/homework/dinner money or etc.

― 2 american 4 u (blueski), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

they are in the mcgann movie as voices and silhouettes - right at the start of the trial of the master

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

MY TRAP HAS CLOSED! Mwahahaha!

The best bit about the TV movie is the bit where wiggy McGann walks about in the NUDD. Wahey! The worst bit = everything else! Argh!

― Bhumibol Adulyadej (Lucretia My Reflection), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

They're only in the TV movie in a flashback framing sequence - The Master has been executed in a dalek court for "crimes" (opinion is generally that this takes place after Frontier In Space leading to the degenrated Master in The Deadly Assassin) and The Doctor has to take him to Gallifrey.

You're right not to watch it though, it's rubbish.

Resurrection was series 21, not 20. It's also worth remembering The Dalek Master Plan was a 12 parter.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

they are in the mcgann movie as voices and silhouettes - right at the start of the trial of the master

oooh i forgot, sorry

― 2 american 4 u (blueski), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

Oh come on, you can't have too many Dalek episodes. It's the Daleks! It's like Inspector Gadget without the Evil Claw! Don't the kids like repetition?

BTW, anyone know if S. Moffat's writing any of the new episodes?

― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

But - right - the Dalek cult... could be.... cool?

― Emergency Temporal Bhumibol Adulyadej (Lucretia My Reflection), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

Is the idea that it's a Dalek-worshipping cult in Depression-era New York? And the Daleks are out of their travel units?

So basically it's a Call Of Cthulhu adventure, WITH DALEKS??

OK, I am quite keen on that.

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

What's concerning me as I think about it more is that two episodes of Thirties New York = eleven episodes of Noughties London and Cardiff (unless they steal outtakes from King Kong or something).

― chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, Moffat's doing a single episode again. Number 9, I think.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

So basically it's a Call Of Cthulhu adventure, WITH DALEKS??

OK, I am quite keen on that.

Yeah, if people have a problem with that, well...I don't know what to tell them. They can watch Stargate, I guess.

― Beth S. (Ex Leon), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

So I saw the episode with The Wire in it and I kind of totally agree with the thread title based on that because WOW WAS THAT AWFUL.

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
(shut the fuck up, douchebag)

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

I fought in the war for this moustache!

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

To be fair it's one of only two absolute stinkers in series two (unless you count Love & Monsters, which I don't).

― chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, the Idiot Lantern was terrible! I assume you mean the 'other' stinker was PH34R H3R which I liked and no-one else in the WORLD likes ahahaha. Scary scribble monster! Scary dad in the cupboard! AND THE OLYMPICS ARE GRATE!!! (ok ok *slightly* overdone there I'll grant you). Crayon world doctor! TARDIS materialising between two solid objects - "oops"! The council worker obsessed with tarmac!

The more I think about this the BETTER IT IS!!

― Bhumibol Adulyadej (Lucretia My Reflection), Monday, 13 November 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

I liked Fear Her as well. I said so at the time. I also liked Love and Monsters, but I am one of these much-maligned nu-Who-fans so make of that what you will.

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 13 November 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, but Ailsa you are "out of this world", man! Yeah! Ahem hem.

I don't actually know anyone who hated Love and Monsters unless you count the letters page of Doctor Who Magazine (and who would count all the letters? That would be seriously OCD/autisticist).

― Bhumibol Adulyadej (Lucretia My Reflection), Monday, 13 November 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

I remember the posters on twop hated it, but then they hated the Girl in the Fireplace so they are all complete crazyfaces.

― Beth S. (Ex Leon), Monday, 13 November 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

Aldo disses it at the top of the thread.

― chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Monday, 13 November 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

Good episode but the denoument was sick and wrong. Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong. And implausible, if that's a reasonable accusation to level at such a show.

― ledge (ledge), Monday, 13 November 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

'Fear Her' would've been good if not for Huw Edwards, pointless use of Olympics at all, DOCTOR CARRYING OLYMPIC FLAME THEN USING IT TO SEND LAMEXOR FAIRIES BACK INTO SPACE, distinct lack of actually moving drawn characters (inc. Doctor) and that rubbish rubbish Dadmonster in the wardrobe.

― 2 american 4 u (blueski), Monday, 13 November 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

Ugh, that Olympic flame bit made me cringe more than all episodes of the office + Borat combined.

― ledge (ledge), Monday, 13 November 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

it's...it's a symbol of hope now...ARRRGH SHUT UP

― 2 american 4 u (blueski), Monday, 13 November 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't think there was anything wrong with the idea of
"Love and Monsters" as such, especially the so-called WRONG WRONG joke, but the execution was indulgent, overacted, and clumsy (i.e. typical series 2).

"Fear Her" started okay, embarrassing end. (Also, un a rare Who/ILX x-reference, I saw Teachers/Fear Her lady at the Union Tavern last month!)

― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Monday, 13 November 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

Yah but all respect due to Aldo, I don't "know" him, in a meaningful sense, eh?

BLUESKI in FUN HATING shocker! Also you hate fairies => u r a big h0m0ph0b3 and want to punch Russell the Davies.

The drawn characters moving WHEN YOU CAN'T SEE THEM = the scariest thing ever, I remember reading about such a thing in THE WITCHES as a tiny. Shudder!

(Admittedly you don't need to be a h0m0ph0b3 to want to punch RTD ~~but it helps~~ ~~argh why do I keep typing~~)

(I bet the strikethrough tag doesn't work on ILx anymore you know, and thus my joke will fail)

― Bhumibol Adulyadej thinks the olympics = grate (Lucretia My Reflection), Monday, 13 November 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

"Fear Her" started okay, embarrassing end.

as did 'The Satan Pit'. re-watched 'The Impossible Planet' recently and still like it.

Also, un a rare Who/ILX x-reference, I saw Teachers/Fear Her lady at the Union Tavern last month!

we need to start leaving Poptimism flyers in there 2 weeks in advance...

― 2 american 4 u (blueski), Monday, 13 November 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

indulgent, overacted, and clumsy

Only true if you think the guest star is actually the important bit, everything else was fan-fucking-tastic.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 13 November 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

Admittedly you don't need to be a h0m0ph0b3 to want to punch RTD

Reading Damaged Goods is enough to make you want that.

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Monday, 13 November 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

Love & Monsters was an unprovoked attack (OK, not strictly true because Ian by nature is provocative, but...), or character assassination if you prefer, on Ian Levine. The blow job scene has NO PLACE IN WHO. NEITHER DOES SCOOBY WHO.

Fear Her could have made a perfectly good Sapphire & Steel storyline, except for OH NOES OLYMPICS SEE I AM DOWN WIV DA KIDZ BOLLOCKS.

Although whomever upthread says the failings of NuWho Series 2 are all about execution is OTM. I wanted to like David Tennant so much, but he's just a gurning buffoon in so much of it.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Monday, 13 November 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

Aldo hates fun! (you're right about Tennant though)

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 13 November 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

Love and Monsters was great.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 13 November 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

Fun is fine. Overly campy pop culture references while remaining 'edgy' = shite. (c.f. Torchwood)

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Monday, 13 November 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

I've been in Canada since Torchwood started... er, I take it it's not very good, then?

― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Monday, 13 November 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

God, Tennant was such a COCK in "The Idiot Lantern" it was unbelievable. I haven't been that embarrassed watching Doctor Who since the last time I watched "Destiny of the Daleks".

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Monday, 13 November 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, whateverthefuck about Ian Levine, is his partner in inventing NRG actually _that_ Fiachra Trench?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 13 November 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

ok i have just seen fear her for the first time, hataz be wrong.

― emsk ( emsk), Monday, 13 November 2006 21:50 (nineteen years ago)

Andrew, I wish I understood what you were trying to say there?

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Monday, 13 November 2006 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

Fear Her is kind of lame, but not as horrible as you would think. But then I have a high tolerance for all things olympian.

― Beth S. (Ex Leon), Monday, 13 November 2006 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

Andrew: yes, that Fiachra Trench.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Monday, 13 November 2006 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

Aw, I just searched Google and Wikipedia to understand what Andrew was talking about and found this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Levine

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Monday, 13 November 2006 22:06 (nineteen years ago)

Roffle I think Ian used to post on radw, actually???

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Monday, 13 November 2006 22:07 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, he did. He mainly posts on his own forum now, because he's become such a hate figure he just gets attacked on the likes of OG. His mate has just done a colour restoration of Ambassadors Of Death 4.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Monday, 13 November 2006 22:11 (nineteen years ago)

Hahahaha, when you get yourself more hated by fandom than John Long...!

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Monday, 13 November 2006 22:14 (nineteen years ago)

"Love & Monsters was an unprovoked attack... on Ian Levine"

oh it was ENTIRELY provoked

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Monday, 13 November 2006 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

More unprovoked attacks should be so sweet _and_ awesome.

My bogglement is that if you click through that Ian Levine Wikipedia article to the Fiachra Trench one, that's all I knew Mr. Trench from. Finding out that he invented Hi-NRG is liking finding out that the Pope used to drum with The Stones.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 13 November 2006 22:32 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

SPOLIERS AND STUFF:

1: Smith and Jones
Writer: Russell T Davies
Director: Charles Palmer
Cast: Adjoa Andoh (Francine Jones), Trevor Laird (Clive Jones), Anne Reid (Florence), Roy Marsden (Mr. Stoker), Gugu Mbatha-Raw (Tish Jones), Reggie Yates (Leo Jones)
The Doctor faces the dreaded Judoon, intergalactic alien stormtroopers who have transported a hospital to the moon... including the young Martha Jones.

2: The Shakespeare Code
Writer: Gareth Roberts
Director: Charles Palmer
Cast: Dean Lennox Kelley (William Shakespeare)
Shakespeare gives the performance of his life to save the Earth from destruction at the hands of fearsome flying witches.

Episode 3
Writer: Russell T Davies
Director: Richard Clarke
Cast: Ardal O'Hanlon (Brannigan), Jennifer Hennesy (Valerie)
The Doctor returns to New Earth, and encounters the Face of Boe again.

4: Daleks in Manhattan
Episode 5
Writer: Helen Raynor
Director: James Hawes
Cast: Hugh Quarshie (Solomon), Miranda Raison (Showgirl), Ryan Carnes, Andrew Garfield, Eric Loren, Flik Swann, Alexis Caley, Earl Perkins, Peter Brookem, Ian Porter
Two-part story
The Doctor and Martha visit New York in the 1930s... and run into an experiment by the Daleks to disrupt the fabric of time!

6: The Lazarus Experiment
Writer: Stephen Greenhorn
Director: Richard Clarke
Cast: Thelma Barlow (Lady Thaw), Mark Gatiss (Dr. Lazarus)
The famed scientist Dr. Lazarus may have developed the fountain of youth!

Episode 7
Writer: Chris Chibnall
Director: Graeme Harper

Episodes 8
9: Family of Blood
Writer: Paul Cornell
Director: Charles Palmer
Cast: Jessica Stevenson (Joan), Harry Lloyd (Jeremy Baines), Thomas Sangster (Tim Latimer), Tom Palmer (Hutchinson), Pip Torrens (Rocastle), Rebekah Staten (Jenny), Gerard Horan (Clark), Lauren Wilson (Lucy Cartwright), Matthew White (Phillips)
Two-part story
The Doctor settles down to lead a normal life in a boarding school, in an adaptation of Cornell's novel "Human Nature".

Episode 10
Writer: Steven Moffat
Director: Hettie MacDonald
Cast: Carey Mulligan, Lucy Gaskell, Michael Obiora, Finlay Robertson, Ian Boldsworth, Richard Cant

11: Utopia
Writer: Russell T Davies
Director: Graeme Harper
Cast: John Barrowman (Jack Harkness)

Episodes 12 & 13
Writer: Russell T Davies
Director: Colin Teague
Cast: John Barrowman (Jack Harkness)
Two-part story

Additional Cast Members (episodes unconfirmed) include Travis Oliver, Leona Crichlow, Bridget Turner, Georgine Anderson, Lucy Davenport, Tom Edden, Natasha Williams, Gayle Telfer Stevens, Daisy Lewis

― chap (chap), Thursday, 11 January 2007 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

After waiting for what seemed like an eternity for the "New Beginnings" box set, imagine my disappointment on realising what a clunker it is. I watched Castrovalva last year and enjoyed it as a stand-alone adventure, but in context with the other two it really is a bit rub. Logopolis by far the worst of the three though.

― I don't know whether to play the trumpet, read a book or be a lesbian. (aldo_cow, Monday, 5 February 2007 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

it struck me recently that Richard Hammond is somehow David Tennant's younge brother (despite being older?).

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 5 February 2007 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

You are so wrong, Aldo.

That said, I watched Castrovalva a few years ago, having not seen it since I was a child, and was disappointed at how cobbled-together it seemed, even though the concept was still great.

I absolutely loved the Keeper of Traken. I've got to go back and view the making-of docu to figure out where it was filmed, as I can't believe they did all that set design just for Dr. Who.

Teegan was a big ninny when she joined. And my god, how *does* the Master get anything done when he can't do one single thing without breaking out into cackling laughter. That is the trouble with Evil Geniuses.

― Fire and Worms (kate), Monday, 5 February 2007 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

Surely there's a better thread to talk about Doctor Who than this one? It has such a whiny title.

― N.i.c.o.l.e (Ex Leon), Monday, 5 February 2007 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think there's a thread for the forthcoming series yet (best to wait until episode summaries emerge i reckon).

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 5 February 2007 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

I loved Tegan mostly because of her whining!

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Monday, 5 February 2007 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

as I can't believe they did all that set design just for Dr. Who

The grove/courtyard scenes? All Tony Burr0ughs sets, apparently.

Cheers for joe.gooden for the S3 titles! Helps me out a bit...

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 5 February 2007 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

Traken is actually pretty good (despite expecting you to believe that The Master will hang about for 20 years on the off chance something will happen - although I suppose if you've spent that long in a black hole this is merely a twinkling of the eye), but then it all goes downhill.

Why does The Watcher bring Nyssa to Logopolis (and, more importantly, how)? How does The Master know The Doctor is going to try and get his chameleon circuit fixed, and exactly what police box he is going to materialise round? THE WHOLE 'OH NOES TEH MASTER IS GOING TO TAKE OVER TEH WORLD SUBMITS TO HIM NOW' PLOT JUST GETS ABANDONED AT THE END OF THE STORY!

The 'it was all a plan by The Master in the first place with a trap within a trap within a trap within a trap within a trap' in Castrovalva is cack, and the TARDIS returning to the Big Bang was done far better in Edge Of Destruction.

The one real spark of joy is how much contempt Tom Baker obviously has for Matthew Waterhouse, he seems to hate him as much as the rest of us. And you get to play the 'badge for mathematical excellence' drinking game.

It's not all bad news, I watched Seeds Of Doom to cheer myself up.

― I don't know whether to play the trumpet, read a book or be a lesbian. (aldo_cow, Monday, 5 February 2007 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

whoops i didn't see that they had already been posted. (xpost)

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 5 February 2007 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

Awww, I am the only person in the world who does not hate Adric? I had such a teenage crush on him.

It was all the art nouveau type doors and bookshelves and detailing - the surrounds for the ball of energy holding the source. Amazing!

Though we did giggle at 1) astonishingly weird SPACEFRUIT for breakfast = aubergines. 2) "I did not realise you were so technologically advanced" at sight of these musty old 70s mainframes.

But laughing at obsolete technology is half the fun of old sci fi - the Dr. holding up circuit boards going "OHMIGOD, YOU HAVE INVENTED BUBBLE MEMORY!!!" like it was the latest thing (which it was on 1981 Earth but surely to Timelords even Pentium would be a cartoony joke.)

― Fire and Worms (kate), Monday, 5 February 2007 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

1: Smith and Jones
appears to be the main reason new companion is called Jones. DYS V CLEVERRRR RTD.

Shakespeare gives the performance of his life to save the Earth from destruction at the hands of fearsome flying witches.
Alarm bells a-ringing

Cast: Ardal O'Hanlon (Brannigan)
could be great could be horrendous, excited to discover which

I'm confused because I thought Captain Jack was going to be in the first few episodes of the new series.

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 5 February 2007 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

The sheer variety of aubergines on Traken is a wonder to behold.

― I don't know whether to play the trumpet, read a book or be a lesbian. (aldo_cow, Monday, 5 February 2007 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

Logopolis collapses if you think about it for a microsecond but the end-of-an-era mood is terrific - great performance from Tom B, good music, the central high-concept idea ("erm the universe ended ages ago soz") COMPLETELY blew my mind aged 8. So it's still a flawed favourite.

I agree with the criticism of Castrovalva's stupid plot but the last time I watched it I found myself really enjoying the textures of the story and some of the images - and again, very good central Doctor performance, but I'm a huge Davison fan.

xpost The alium fruit in Traken is surely beaten by the "riverfruit" in Full Circle, which they have the gall to make into a plot point even!

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 5 February 2007 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

In general you can't explain ANYTHING the Master does in ANY STORY by recourse to puny human logic.

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 5 February 2007 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

How does The Master know The Doctor is going to try and get his chameleon circuit fixed, and exactly what police box he is going to materialise round?

They even repeated the explanation in the incidental scenes on the menu! (Which I heard about 1200 times because I was still making curry as I put the disc in.)

Adric (asking how the Master knew these things): Did he read your mind?!??!
Doctor: He's A TIME LORD!!! In many ways, we have the same mind!

(In which case, how come the Dr. can't tell that the Master wants to sabotague Logopolis, especially since that infernal cackling is coming from Theta Block or wherever he landed his bad tardis. Also, how does the Master have so many TARDISes (the second one stashed away as a clock to catch Nyssa's dad when the first got destroyed) when later Doctor explains "they have to be grown!"?)

― Fire and Worms (kate), Monday, 5 February 2007 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

Also, Logopolis features a FITE on top of JODRELL BANK!!!

I was very excited at the time, jumping up and down going "MY DAD WORKED THERE!!!" and imagining it was him what was listening to music when he should have been checking on extraterrestrial intelligence when the Master got him. (An idea my dad did not dissuade me of.)

― Fire and Worms (kate), Monday, 5 February 2007 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

Logopolis is one of my faves!

Im so chuffed the master will be back in the new series. Dunno the guy from life of mars who is playing him though.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 5 February 2007 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

Steven Moffat needs to write more episodes.

― N.i.c.o.l.e (Ex Leon), Monday, 5 February 2007 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

The Master rumour about the new series is kind of lukewarm, even though The Sun have been pretty accurate about the RTD era. A lot of it centres round somebody realising that "Mister Saxon" is an anagram of "Master No. Six", and the actor playing him would be sixth one to do so.

I'm more excited about the near-certain return of the Macra.

― I don't know whether to play the trumpet, read a book or be a lesbian. (aldo_cow, Monday, 5 February 2007 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

I'm more excited about the near-certain return of the Macra.

OMG is this actually true? If the answer is no I will be very sad :(

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 5 February 2007 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

Steven Moffat needs to write more episodes.

Agreed.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 5 February 2007 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

RTD has said an unexpected Classic Series monster will return. The final issue of Dreamwatch adds that it is "a villainous crustacean last seen in the Troughton era".

NB - Speculation may go up as well as down. You should not invest emotions you cannot afford.

― I don't know whether to play the trumpet, read a book or be a lesbian. (aldo_cow, Monday, 5 February 2007 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

TOO LATE.

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 5 February 2007 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

waht is Macra?

cosign re Moffat.

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 5 February 2007 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

GIGANT ALIUM SPACE CRABS.

― I don't know whether to play the trumpet, read a book or be a lesbian. (aldo_cow, Monday, 5 February 2007 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

can't go wrong with space crabs. just watching the crab migration docu on BBC 2 saturday evening (which they seem to show every other week now) is creepy fun enough (except when they were getting crushed by big trucks that was genuine ;_;)

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 5 February 2007 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

Could we be warned in the title when a Doctor Who thread is going to degenerate into "I looked up the future on the internet" spackishness?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 5 February 2007 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

on what planet does experience not warn you of this?

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 5 February 2007 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

The Lost planet:) or any other TV show, it seems to be only Doctor Who where the fervent fans are the ones most intent of sucking any surprise out of 'their' show.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 5 February 2007 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

Question: which companion has had the best introduction to the Daleks?

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 5 February 2007 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

"new companion, you are about to meet a villainous crustacean last seen in the Troughton era!"

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 5 February 2007 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

Only about 3 ppl on the whole of ILX knew who the Macra are anyway! Their glorious advent is about as much of a spoiler as trailing the cat people from the last series!

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 5 February 2007 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

The Macra look amazing:
iwww.bbc.co.uk/.../monsters1/images/340/macra.jpg

I love pictures of terrifying monsters standing in front of rubbish suburban houses.

― chap (chap), Monday, 5 February 2007 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry:

ihttp://www.bbc.co.uk/.../monsters1/images/340/macra.jpg

― chap (chap), Monday, 5 February 2007 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

No, those dots need to be replaced with something else (and i http don't work anyway!)!

― Fire and Worms (kate), Monday, 5 February 2007 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

Space Crustacean:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/254393/macra.jpg

― Fire and Worms (kate), Monday, 5 February 2007 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

ihttp usually works fine for me, even since everyone else has been saying it doesn't!

― chap (chap), Monday, 5 February 2007 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

The Doctor settles down to lead a normal life in a boarding school

Er... eh?

― DavidM* (unreal), Monday, 5 February 2007 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

It's a boarding school for cosmic invertabrates.

― chap (chap), Monday, 5 February 2007 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

I think it's like Superman II except he gives up being a timelord. And it's probably not so he can have sex with Lois Lane.

― N.i.c.o.l.e (Ex Leon), Monday, 5 February 2007 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

Im so chuffed the master will be back in the new series. Dunno the guy from life of mars who is playing him though.

Which one of Life on Mars dudes would this be? John Simm looks about twelve. Philip Glenister is teh fucking MAN and I love him.

*googles* oh, it is John Simm. He's a terrific actor, but I can't kind of get past the fact that he looks about twelve.

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 5 February 2007 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

Bernard Sumner as The Master? No, no, no, no, wrong.

http://www.cerysmaticfactory.info/images/partypeopletimeout2.jpg

― Fire and Worms (kate), Monday, 5 February 2007 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

I like John Simm, but he doesn't strike me as Master material.

I just ordered the Pertwee box from Amazon :)

― onimo (onimo), Monday, 5 February 2007 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2001320029-2007040780,00.html

x-posts

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 5 February 2007 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

Enough with all of this Master baiting.

― N.i.c.o.l.e (Ex Leon), Monday, 5 February 2007 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

FFS, whoever wrote that article doesn't even know what the Chameleon Circuit does!

― Fire and Worms (kate), Monday, 5 February 2007 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

Awww, I am the only person in the world who does not hate Adric?

Yes. (Sorry! But it's kind of true.)

Best introduction to the Daleks is either Rose or Ian/Barbara/Susan.

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Monday, 5 February 2007 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

Dan brings the truth.

The writer of the Sun article above also cannot count his Masters, unless someone else plays the Master and Simm is the regeneration. There's only been 5 previous actors (Delgado, Pratt, Beevers, Ainley and Roberts).

Anyway, tonight I have been watching Planet Of The Spiders. It's very good in places. The spiders are a bit crap by today's SFX standards, and there are roffles to be had when the Welsh one gets really excited and turns into Nostradamus off TMWRNJ, but the plot hangs together pretty well.

― I don't know whether to play the trumpet, read a book or be a lesbian. (aldo_cow, Monday, 5 February 2007 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

I had a dream last night that the new Doctor was Alan Carr. Everyone was going on about how wicked he was going to be, and I was the only person in the whole world who seemed to realise what an appalling idea it was. Haha, my dreams are so nerdy.

― chap, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

Is this based on the episode of the Friday Night Project that David Tennant was on? I hated every second of that programme.

― accentmonkey, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

No it wasn't actually, I don't watch the Friday Night project because it makes me want to kill things.

― chap, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

I think Alan Carr may be my least favourite person on telly right now.

― ailsa, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

You say that like Jimmy Carr and Justin Lee Collins aren't on telly right now.

― onimo, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

The sad thing is that I've met Jimmy Carr in the real world on several occasions and he is a very nice man. I just don't like him on telly. Nor do I like his stand-up.

I do not want to ever meet Justin Lee Collins, because I dislike him so much on telly that if I found out he wasn't actually repellant I would be flummoxed.

― accentmonkey, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

I don't hate Jimmy Carr. I would be able to tolerate Justin Lee Collins for approximately ten seconds longer than I would Alan Carr, but it's a close run thing. Alan Carr = still more annoying.

― ailsa, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

Alan Carr does have that horrible cringey thing that he does which just makes you want to hit him.

― accentmonkey, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

"Girl in the Fireplace" just made me cry again. And now I have to take a overdose.

― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 25 March 2007 11:08 (nineteen years ago)

The Parting of the Ways made my son cry yesterday. I think that's4 eps of RTD era Who that make him cry.

(hehe I mistyped that as RTD era Who tat)

― onimo, Sunday, 25 March 2007 12:55 (nineteen years ago)

Who dat?

― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 25 March 2007 12:55 (nineteen years ago)

Spoilers!

― ailsa, Sunday, 25 March 2007 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

I wish RTD would leave.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Sunday, 25 March 2007 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

Recently I have mostly been wasting my life with old Hartnell eps on Youtube. The serials tend to be too long and thus flabbily plotted, but the direction and performances are pretty good, and the effects are often really quite impressive for the time and budget (especially the first view of the Dalek city). I like how the first Doctor was basically a selfish hypocritical arsehole. I don't like Ian though, he's a dick and he's always fondling the ladies.

― chap, Sunday, 25 March 2007 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

Fucking hell, Love and Monsters is awsome. I hope the new none-Doctor episode is any where near as good.

― DavidM, Sunday, 25 March 2007 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

omg i absolutely had not realised doctor who is starting THIS SATURDAY! omg omg. that's what you get for not watching telly. i am not going to be in, i will be in the forest :/ interview with freema agyeman here. sorry if it was already linked to, i haven't read the end of this thread.

― emsk, Thursday, 29 March 2007 08:01 (nineteen years ago)

Why do we keep using the 'Doctor Who is shit' thread rather than the 'Squee! Doctor Who is great!' thread?

― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 March 2007 08:04 (nineteen years ago)

there should probably be a new thread for the new series (i'm not doing it, i got to go to work like NOW, but please can it have "squee!" in the title?).

― emsk, Thursday, 29 March 2007 08:06 (nineteen years ago)

Yay, Jessica Stevenson is in this series! Good to see her in something good after that horrible sitcom that wasted her talents.

― Stew, Thursday, 29 March 2007 09:18 (nineteen years ago)

God Jessica Stevenson would make the best companion ever.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 March 2007 09:19 (nineteen years ago)

But only if she played badass kung-fu Daisy from the second series of Spaced.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 March 2007 09:21 (nineteen years ago)

"Good to see her in something good after that horrible sitcom that wasted her talents.

Stew on Thursday, March 29, 2007 12:18 PM (Yesterday)"

i think 'spaced' bears up pretty well.

― That one guy that quit, Friday, 30 March 2007 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/articles/a/accordingtobex_999050107.shtml

― Alan, Friday, 30 March 2007 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

There...were...just...er...rhinos...er...in...New...Rock...boots...on...my...telly....

Er...

― peteR, Saturday, 31 March 2007 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

...which have melted my brane, obv. Go see other thread.

― peteR, Saturday, 31 March 2007 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

Can we keep this on the other thread?

― Matt DC, Saturday, 31 March 2007 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

(I'll unlock this later, just keeping it tidy for now)

― Matt DC, Saturday, 31 March 2007 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

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