Batman carries on beginning in ... The Dark Knight

I am very sad. :c

Radcliffe Joker-casting rumors for Batman Begins 2 start NOW

-- latebloomer (posercore24...), July 28th, 2006 3:09 PM. (latebloomer)

So good of the AP to let us know that nudity is not the focus of the play.

Clearly all Heath has to do is to give us a performance in line with Roar.

So, is the official rule "all freakish villains must be played by attractive young actors"?

Except in the Spiderman movies, where they're played by regular-looking middle aged actors.

I was really hoping for Christopher Ecclestone, me. Although Crispin Glover would have been equally great (although he would also be a fantastic Mad Hatter/Riddler/any of the "extremely crazy" Batman variety villains).

CRISPIN GLOVER AS BATMANG!?!?! OMG I R JEENYUS

They did it once before, jeez! (I mean, I fully understand if you want to scrub Nicholson from your brain.)

NEXT UP: ORNALDO BLOOMPS IS THE PENGUIN.

yeah, totally.

See, it could be super-authentic but that doesn't mean that watching ren-faire rejects drop it like it's hot is my idea of a good time.

BTW, I saw "Transporter 2" a couple of weeks ago, and DAMMMNNN

How many action figures has Liam Neeson generated? Just Ra's and Qui-Gon? Where's my Darkman figure?

jeez, $13 from wal-mart. that's gotta be like, what, $23 anywhere else?

http://www.hasbro.co.uk/images/shop/product/801022650.gif

or

Batman: The Dark Knight Returns...FOR THE FIRST TIME!

Also, Bale is going to ruin his career now.

Also I don't know what you people are talking about with this "young, good-looking villians" thing, Cillian Murphy is like some nightmare cross between Crispin Glover and F*** S*******, and whatshisface who isn't a villian yet but will be in Spiderman is like a poor man's Colin Farrell, and those are the only two I can even think of that fall under this category so I won't take it as a trend.

Ornaldo would be better as Catwoman than as the Penguin. I hope they do NOT reintroduce Catwoman (bad enough they are redoing the Joker, not that I don't think Nicholson needs to be redone and erased completely from human conciousness) and instead do Harley Quinn if they need a "sexy female villian."

Cillian Murphy might've been awesome but he doesn't qualify as "good looking" unless you really like Crispian Glover space aliens, in my mind at least. I mean he totally looks like a creepy movie dude.

This is so true.

ROFFLE ROFFLE ROFFLE ROFFLE ROFFLE ROFFLE

Frnk Sinatraa?

that's what they're going for, too!

xpost You might roffle but I can only cringe!!

And I think Cillian Murphy is a FOX. Clearly I am alone on this.

whatshisface who isn't a villian yet but will be in Spiderman is like a poor man's Colin Farrell = him from Sideways? Franco? Buh-huh? I can not think of any person in the Spidey cast who can match the ferocity of Mr. Farrell's eyebrows

For some reason that has me giggling wildly at my desk. But yeah, James Franco, although I still say his eyebrows are NOTHING compared to Farrell (who lest we forget was ALSO A SUPERHERO VILLAIN).

Yes, yes indeed.

Oh shit I feel like an internerd / ILX lifer for getting it.

THAT IS A TREAT

He attempted camp in Casanova and was quite splendid.

The casting choice here admittedly blew my mind. I never cared for him until Brokeback Mountain, but he was so marvelous it's almost impossible to separate him from Ennis Del Mar.

I think Cillian Murphy is generally considered the best looking actor of his generation. Ally's views are to be treated as that of a dangerous maverick.

i'm glad people have stopped casting him as european dudes, it just makes no sense

Also we were wondering to ourselves last night, what exactly IS a typical Heath Ledger role that the Joker would be distinct from? He seems kind of all over the map?

Isn't this kind of like asking "I don't get why the Superman movie go into his origin; didn't they cover that in the television show?"

Easily the best ever. Next comes the original original Adam West movie.

http://www.dvdscan.com/V_30.jpg

honestly though, i'm sick of almost anything burton-related these days.

i loved it as a kid.

I sold the Batman soundtrack for 2 bucks in 7th grade, and I really regret it.

-- Zwan (anthonyisrigh...), August 2nd, 2006 8:05 PM. (miccio) (later) (link)

WHAT.

http://www.newsarama.com/movies/darkknight/HeathJoker_t.jpg

first official pic...

totally creepy!!

I agree.

Jesus!

That's great! Yikes!

looks like the evil clown from House of 1000 Corpses

Looks like the Crow, more like.

After a bender.

Alternately, Robert Smith's greatest triumph.

That Joker Picture + Aaron Eckhart as Harvey Dent = Me being v. excited

I think this might be very, very awesome.

Yup.

wow!

Ledger in red lipstick? Hm.

-- elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Tuesday, August 1, 2006 1:15 PM (9 months ago)

So let's hear your judgment, elmo.

anthony michael hall is in this too apparently:

http://www.dailynews.com/celebrities/ci_5943152

as what the riddler

oh man

it's TOP SECRET

the $200m secret

LEMME GUESS...CATWOMAN

Anthony Michael Hall IS Killer Croc

that is sum fucked up shit

i'm guessing the Penguin? Robin?

"They're shooting in London, Chicago and Hong Kong. My next dates are in Chicago, the third week of August with Morgan, then I get to go back to London." He adds he's never been a comic-book fan, but "I loved the 'Batman' series, so Batman has truly always meant something to me. It's really been one of my dreams as an actor to become Batman."

omg he's gonna take christian bale's place in 3!

AMH as Bookworm, plz plz plz...favorite Batvillian ever!

Eric Roberts is in this too, as a gangster.

C. Thomas Howell IS the Mad Hatter

Jake Busey IS Mr. Freeze

Dolph Lundgren IS Clayface

running out of villains here, help me out

Parker Posey IS Poison Ivy

http://www.funny-business.com/uploads/images/94/JEFF_DUNHAM.jpg

Jeff Dunham as The Ventriloquist

lol

The Ventriloquist... ON A STEEEEEK

there's a bunch of obscure ones here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Batman_enemies

i think this one's my favorite for sheer wtf-ness:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Quilt

created by Jack Kirby, no less!

Crazy-Quilt's sight was restored briefly for a time after he kidnapped a surgeon to assist him, Batman and Grayson's Robin intervened, and in self defence, Robin reflected the madman's light beams back into his newly restored eyes, inadvertently blinding Quilter permanently. Obsessing over his young adversary, he became one of the few batvillains to hate Robin more than his mentor.

HAHAHAhahahaha

Whoa Bookworm was played by Roddy McDowall!

http://ibelieveinharveydent.warnerbros.com/images/dent.jpg

called it

as in: i read the internet

Plus, Batmanuel (!!!) Nestor Carbonell is reportedly playing the mayor of Gotham in this.

I think that Joker looks pretty stupid. What's up with the smeared lipstick and the scars? I thought Joker was supposed to be an evil dandy clown, not a horror movie monster.

i think it fits, tho i grew up on the batman of 'dark knight'/'killing joke' moreso than cesar romero.

Yeah, I thought Joker was supposed to be a horribly mutilated mass murderer.

if you look at that picture closely, you'll see there are in fact some mutilated parts below the cheek area.

i'm still undecided by it though

I thought Joker was supposed to be an evil dandy clown, not a horror movie monster.

the evil dandy clown version was done already in the Burton Batman. the character has been interpreted in enough various ways to warrant doing it differently this time around. i like it, it keeps the villain in line with the "creepy" approach they took towards the Scarecrow.

http://i9.tinypic.com/4t8g9hj.png

This was the Joker-fied Dent banner that was hiding that new Joker Wayne Gacy pic. There's been a bit more of this viral marketing thingy going on apparently. Details here:

http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/12513314.html

I'm getting excited now.

yeah, there was this site too with the wierd secret messages :

http://ibelieveinharveydenttoo.com/

im so happy eric roberts is in this

when is this out again?

next summer

im so happy eric roberts is in this

-- homosexual II, Tuesday, May 22, 2007 1:08 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

wow i guess there really is a first time for everything!

So looking forward to this.

http://ibelieveinharveydenttoo.com/

"see you in december"

but what happens in December?

I think that Joker looks pretty stupid. What's up with the smeared lipstick and the scars? I thought Joker was supposed to be an evil dandy clown, not a horror movie monster

Um, no.

Well, yeah, I know he's face was changed in a chemical accident, and I'm not against character revision... It's just that the image seems to imply they want to have a "darker", more brutal Joker, which is in line with the altogether darker approach they're taking with the new films, and I'm not sure if that's a good thing. The nice thing with Burton's films (and even Schumacher's) was that they blended the Gothy darkness with the essential absurdity in the heart of any superhero story, so they worked fine as modern fables. But as I said in the big debate we had about Batman Begins, I don't think Batman should be taken too seriously, which is why I think Joker works better as a dapper fellow who's just completely insane, rather than as some Hannibal Lecter type of psychopath serial killer.

Besides, if Joker has a mutilated face, doesn't he come a bit too close to Two-Face, who I see is also in the film?

The nightmarish visions of what the Batman Begins thread turned into are starting to recur...

> doesn't he come a bit too close to Two-Face, who I see is also in the film?

did the big Harvey Dent posters tip you off? 8)

that 'see you in december' is what the html source of that page reads if you scrub out all the 'Ha Ha' stuff. no idea what it means, other than 'wait'.

Heath's face too fat and round to play the Joker. Mind you so was Nicholson's.

Dude, with the exception of the 1940s-1960s, the Joker has always been portrayed as a violent sociopath, not a hilarious trickster-thief. I mean, look at what he did to poor Barbara Gordon. Playing the Joker dark and scary is totally appropriate and lives up to what (IMO) is the best part about Batman--the really awesome/interesting/scary villains. xxpost

I don't mean he shouldn't be dark and scary and violent, I'd just rather see him as funny-dark rather tortured-dark.

Yeah, it's totally in keeping with Batman existing more along the Doc Savage/The Shadow/Dick Tracy axis than the Superman/Green Lantern axis.

For that matter, Captain America and the Red Skull pretty much work the same kind of angle.

Here is how I would cast it:

Batman/Bruce Wayne: Mark
Two-Face/Harvey Dent: Scott
Joker: Kevin
Gordon: Bruce
Barbara Gordon: Dave

FWIW I think The Joker's "dark sense of humor" is supposed to come into play in this film.

BONUS POINTS: Katie Holmes is replaced by Maggie Gyllenhaal as Rachel Dawes in this.

And thank god for that.

Does anyone know if this movie is based on "The Long Halloween"? The last one already took some bits of it, and the Harvey Dent thing makes me suspect this one will too.

ledge otm about nicholson face.

but the more i'm reading stuff online about this new one the more i'm warming to it. I love dark and nasty Joker, and am a huge fan of the Arkham Asylum graphic novel.

it's difficult to draw a conclusion on how Ledger is going to play this Joker just from one picture tho. I'm sure they'll be some 'harlequinn' banter at some point surely.

Okay that is perfect!

The Joker isn't in The Long Halloween. It DOES look like it will take elements of that and Dark Victory though, since Sal Maroni is also in it.

Can we cast Jake Gyllenhaal as Gay Cowboy?

I am kind of wondering if the A Story will be from Long Halloween, and Anthony Michael Hall will be the Calendar Killer.

Also, when do we see Robin? Wouldn't it be great if they'd someday come up with a Batman/Robin love story, where Katie Holmes would act as Bruce Wayne's beard?

(x-post)

I think Joker is in the Long Halloween, but he has only a minor part... Maybe in the movie he's responsible for Harvey Dent's fate rather than the mobsters.

My guess is the newly-mutilated Joker is going on a revenge spree against the mobsters responsible with Bruce and Harvey trying to stop him, and prevent a gang war, with a big ironic finale as Havey gets Two-faced by the same poison that Jokered the Joker.

xp

I was a bit underwhelmed by The Long Halloween to be honest. Lots of great atmospheres there, but in the end it was just a run-of-the-mill whodunit with a run-of-the-mill twist ending. They should've focused more on Harvey Dent's metamorphosis, which was the most interesting part of the story.

I think of Loeb as second-rate at best, so yeah, I agree.

long halloween was not great.

I didn't really get "Arkham Asylum."

I don't mean he shouldn't be dark and scary and violent, I'd just rather see him as funny-dark rather tortured-dark.

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SO THEN GO WATCH THE IDIOTIC TIM BURTON FILM FOR GOD'S SAKE TUOMAS

or the cartoon series, or the television series from the 60s, or...etc etc!!

It's all Jungian and shit. Fuckin' Morrison. (I don't think AA is one of his better works, but I'd take minor Morrison over a Loeb 'masterpiece' anyday.)

i am so so so there for this if aaron eckhart is playing harvey dent tho. i mean i was there for this before that but now i'm 100% on board.

Look upthread, Ally.

wtf do you think i was referring to, ned.

u makin me crazy, bro!!

xpost Whoa. Now I happen to think that Batman Begins is the best batman movie yet, but let's not get too crazy. Keaton was awesome, and Burton's film was a lot of fun.

u makin me crazy, bro!!

It was your use of the word 'if' that threw me! But now I'm imagining a scenario where they cast him, took the promo photos and then told him they were fucking with him.

omg that should be casting industry standard procedure.

"Michael Keaton" and "awesome" are only allowed in the same sentence as "Beetlejuice" sorry.

How soon we forget "Jack Frost."

How soon thankfully we forget "Jack Frost."

It's all Jungian and shit. Fuckin' Morrison. (I don't think AA is one of his better works, but I'd take minor Morrison over a Loeb 'masterpiece' anyday.)

-- Oilyrags, Tuesday, May 22, 2007 4:26 PM (9 minutes ago)

Ya, I got the Jung undertones, I think it was just too much atmosphere and too little comprehensible story for my tastes. I loved the art, but it was too difficult to follow. I suppose I should go back and read Morrison's annotated script in the back.

AA is a bit of a big mess, but it was one of the first things I remember reading with Morrison's name on it - definitely put him on my radar

"Michael Keaton" and "awesome" are only allowed in the same sentence as "Beetlejuice" sorry.

Dear Jessie,

You are wrong.

Sincerely,

Mr Mom

MR. MOM (1983)

Plot Keywords:
Child Nudity / Self Discovery

i actually liked him as batman

I actually liked Arkham Asylum.

I like it as well! Then again it's one of the few Batman books/stories I actually own/have read, which probably skews my viewpoint on the whole cycle.

I only have Killing Joke, Year One, and a copy of AA that a friend gave me. Don't feel the need for much else (I can't stand Frank Miller anymore)

Wouldn't it be great if they'd someday come up with a Batman/Robin love story, where Katie Holmes would act as Bruce Wayne's beard?

No.

here is how I rank Batman books I own:

Killing Joke > Arkham Asylum > Year One > Long Halloween > Dark Victory

I only want to see Robin in a Batman movie if they are going to kill him or if he ends up hating Batman for being the psycho he is.

<quote>Wouldn't it be great if they'd someday come up with a Batman/Robin love story, where Katie Holmes would act as Bruce Wayne's beard?

No.

-- HI DERE, Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:19 PM (46 seconds ago) Bookmark Link
</quote>

Oh, I could live with it. Williewonkafy the whole Batman concept til its so silver age it hurts and doesn't really affect perception of the Batnolan movies and it'd be fine.

See you in December = when the first teaser trailers are released?

I only want to see Robin in a Batman movie if they are going to kill him or if he ends up hating Batman for being the psycho he is.

omg jessie u r soooo wrong the iconic Batman is mortal perfection personified wlomgoltf.

Are there actually any truly great Batman graphic novels or miniseries besides the Miller ones and Killing Joke? Because most of the ones I've read have been disappointing in one way or another, and I've never had the money or time to follow the monthly books.

Batman and Judge Dredd Files is a must to own by any fan of Batman comics or otherwise, 3 stories by different writers and artists.

Oh yeah, I've read the first one of those (with Judge Death and Scarecrow), it was pretty good.

that was Simon Bisley artwork, which was in my opinion simply breathtaking

So to summarize, Tuomas hates Batman.

We already knew this, though.

You're not my intended audience.

Leee I will fight you for I Love Comics ownership.

I checked "The Greatest Batman Stories Ever Told" out of the library recently, and despite an inevitable emphasis on one-issue stories, it has a lot of great material in it.

I really dig Matt Wagner's three-parter "Faces" from Legends of the Dark Knight. I think it got reprinted as a tpb. There was another one "Blades" from around the same time with art by Tim Sale and written by James Robinson that was also high quality. Dunno if you can still find that one, though.

Also, the recent "Mad Moon Rising" or whatever it was called thing by Wagner retelling the early Hugo Strange and Mad Monk stories is a lot of fun. Fact is, though, I'm just a Wagner fanboy, so take that as you will.

Oh yeah! Also the first Grendel/Batman crossover, the one with Hunter Rose. The later one with Grendelprime kinda sucked.

Now that I think of it, when it comes to superheroes I've always preferred bright-coloured cosmic fables to dark and edgy vigilante stuff, so I guess I do hate Batman.

good now get out

Bring it if you can, monster jessie.

xpost s1ocki otm.

slocki harsh but fair -- it's like Tuomas is wishing the sky wasn't blue.

tuomas would probably like the batman story in mike allred's solo tho.

yay Matt Wagner

If you can find them in the back issue bins, Pete Milligan's Batman one-issues are just as awesome as their titles suggest they might be ("The Executioner Wore Stiletto Heels" and "The Hungry Grass!"). Also, the Wagner/Grant run is bestest -- definitely more "funny dark" than "tortured dark."

i dunno guys tuomas is saying it in a really annoying way as usual but i think hes right that this is some bullshit dark re-imagineered david fincher joker instead of classic funny-yet-crazy joker - do yall also like this?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/62/American_McGee_Alice_box.gif/256px-American_McGee_Alice_box.gif

No one likes American McGee.

tuomas would probably like the batman story in mike allred's solo tho.

Also sci-fi closet Morrison? There were really only a couple of good issues though.

I like Year 100 but Tuomas wouldn't.

I dunno, I thought the Nolan movie was quite light-hearted in places. It wasn't dark in a "grim 'n gritty" way.

classic funny-yet-crazy joker

"classic" is subject to debate, as this thread makes rather obvious. which interpretation a reader/viewer priveleges is entirely up to their own prejudices.

I dunno guys we have two photographs and a totally inconsistent narrative spanning nearly a century involving perhaps hundreds of authors, surely we can nail down the probable levels of genuine intent and fitting nuance mr ledger will bring to the role, and what the script will have in it.

I predict Ledger dances a killer Batusi

I hope Ledger's Joker tries to out-do Bale's Batman in a contest of BONERS

definitely psyched about the prince song.

R. Kelly should do the soundtrack.

Perhaps snorggirl should play the Joker.

Snorggirl? Is that some superhero?

better if it were Snoggirl

genuine intent and fitting nuance mr ledger will bring to the role

I predict Ledger dances a killer Batusi

I hope Ledger's Joker tries to out-do Bale's Batman in a contest of BONERS

Can y'all call him Heath otherwise I get a little taken aback whenever I open the thread.

i just realized while watching it again this weekend that while its not my favorite batman movie i think mask of the phantasm has by far the best batman characterization of any of them

bruce wayne kneeling on his parents grave in the rain begging them to let him not be batman, and you know that hes going to have to anyway, is some tragic shit

http://rjr10036.typepad.com/proceed_at_your_own_risk/images/batman.jpg

if i could count the times i begged my folks not to be batman...

and yet they insisted on being batman

family outings were no fun at all. mom and dad were always on the lookout for some evildoers to bust.

The big trip to Disney World was a fiasco.

"Dad, the mad hatter is PART OF THE RIDE ffs"

Should I make my comic-lord brother get me copies of Arkham Asylum, Year One and the Alan Moore collection w/ The Killing Joke for a Batman introduction?

Yes.

obviously

btw dude, I woulda taken you up on that Drink offer if I'd caught it before I called it a night!

The world's gin supply is safe for the moment, so there will probably be more opportunities.

http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2007-05-28-dark-knight-firstlook_N.htm

http://www.comingsoon.net/images/newbatmansuit.jpg

fuck that robocop shit

best batman
http://www.brokenfrontier.com/img/2005/mar/DC/BatmanLegendsOfDarkKnightCv.jpg

...is that Moebius?

the late Seth Fisher, from his and JH Williams' and D. Curtis Johnson's LOTDK.

Well well:

http://www.latimes.com/media/alternatethumbnails/story/2007-06/30587677.jpg

Story.

whatever that is i love it

ok so they went and decided to top the actual jumping batmobile? that's good news. fuck a CGI.

Is that the Batvibrator?

No.

2nd best Batman

http://www.freegorifero.com/weblog/assets/060226.jpg

Year 100! I loved that.

So, I finally got around to seeing Batman: Mask of the Phantasm last night. I'm not sure if it's as great as some have hyped it to me, but it's really more solid than a lot of the 90s Batman films and does some interesting rewriting of the Batman origin story including a romantic interest that's scripted more maturely than other film versions, and it's in a cartoon! The whole thing reminded me how great the Batman animated series was.

http://video.whysoserious.com/TDK_Teaser_HD_Best_L98hufT.mov

ha, was just about to post that

SO EXCITED.

youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3DV-uaUkzk

So Heath is doing his Jack impression, I take it.

That fucking why so serious link shows an "All audiences" notification that doesn't fit on my screen, then stalls for a year and crashes my browser.

THANKS WARNER BROTHERS! I WUB OO!

http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/movie/gallery/10006191/photo_04.jpg

wow, Ichi The Killer goes full circle

PAT LEAHY AS MR FREEZE

he did say he has landed a scene with its two stars, Christian Bale and Heath Ledger

He subpeonas them, asks for their private e-mails, gets nowhere, subpeonas them again...

http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2007-09/32821514.jpg

*impatient*

I got to see Maggie Gyllenhaal and Aaron Eckhart going to the "opera" a few months ago. My impatience has been sated temporarily.

I am watching the Watchmen!

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3085&Itemid=99

MOAR picts

http://www.iesb.net/images/zoom/IAGNRE/TDK7.jpg

KA-BOOSH!

Is the Joker wearing jeans?

lookin good

heath ledger sounds like andy dick in the trailer

okay that is MASSIVELY disturbing

Andy Dick and Crispin Glover should make a movie about the Wright Brothers, as they didn't get to be in this.

God, I didn't even like the last one that much and I'm dying to see this.

I like it.

http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/jokerempire.jpg

How is my namesake?

Andy Dick and Crispin Glover should make a movie about the Wright Brothers, as they didn't get to be in this.

-- da croupier, Monday, October 1, 2007 10:44 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Link

<3<3<3

well Batman Begins ruled (and shit all over all but the Tim Burton Batman. even Batman Returns bites--I liekd it as a kid but god it didn't age well...and it's not that old!)

Whoa does this mall get filled w/blue-paint-zombies & bikers???

http://www.iesb.net/images/zoom/IAGNRE/TDK2.jpg

xtians bale plz contact me w/yr magick stack of wires. you are beautiflu

http://www.iesb.net/images/zoom/IAGNRE/TDK1.jpg

Omh plz zpsonsor my coming out party

I feel like a dumbass for not realizing he was British until a month ago

Yeah, in a special feature of Newsies DVD he basically says 'why did they think it would be good for me to sing in an affected British accent? I don't know."

British Brooklyn accent

http://i6.tinypic.com/89sg5z8.gif

lol i didn't realize the pic I posted did not come out and now it looks like I'm just saying "I like it" like I've seen it. tis the cover of the latest Empire with Ledger as the Joker on it.

http://www.joblo.com/index.php?id=18776

oh wait now I see it again. gah wtf.

He looks like a member of the Sex Pistols there.

God, I didn't even like the last one that much and I'm dying to see this.

-- da croupier, Monday, October 1, 2007 3:45 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Link

with his fuckin, his fuckin laser eyes, you know

http://metropotam.ro/Recomandari/2007/05/art1134938944-Prodigy-ne-reintalnim/Prodigy.jpg
http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/jokerempire2.jpg

Dammit!

http://metropotam.ro/Recomandari/2007/05/art1134938944-Prodigy-ne-reintalnim/Prodigy.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/lixnixn/jokerempire2.jpg

lol cover design scarier than joker

Some further PR hash re: six-minute screening of footage the other day

<img src=http://impawards.com/2008/posters/dark_knight.jpg>;

Meet my new desktop wallpaper.

http://impawards.com/2008/posters/dark_knight.jpg

christianbale.gif is way better than Batman Begins

This is easily my favorite poster design since Hard Candy:

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/darkknightteaserposter.jpg

exept for the unnecessary "why so serious?"

it's the TAG LINE

and a SHITTY and UNNECESSARY one

That "The Ha Ha Ha Times" viral website is pretty cool, tho.

haha omg that is a terrible tagline!

superman 2: "i know right"

GOT BATMAN?

haha

Batman Much?

Bat Me Worry?

What part of "Batman" don't you understand?

prepare for a crimewave: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7141740.stm

How do you survive falling into a fucking vat of cyanide, precisely?

In the funny books that's okay, you turn into the Clown Prince of Crime, but in real life..Jeez

clearly the tagline should've been "Batman carries on beginning in..." (which, btw, I still can't believe isn't a Raggett thread every single time I see the subject line).

Hahahah!

Was this linked?

http://batman-dark-knight.moviechronicles.com/

The trailer has leaked:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAW0Bif_2CU

bateman/batman

i love it, best since keaton (which isn't hard, really)

http://www.omelete.com.br/imagens/cinema/news/thedarkknight/posterexclusivoomelete.jpg
this poster is all kinds of awesome. it makes me hope that TDK is going to be a Bat-remake of King of New York.

I have Batman Begins at home on DVD!!!! Trying to decide on a party to go to tonight, or just stay in and watch??

well couldn't you just watch it later?

I would stay in and watch it, but my other option is to go to work while 95% of my coworkers go to the reportedly amazing xmas party

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/images/features/topvillains/10brooks050107.jpg

with his fuckin, his fuckin laser eyes, you know

-- BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, November 28, 2007 10:18 AM

what the hell am i talking about

the trailer is now officially out:

http://atasteforthetheatrical.com/deathtrap/default.htm

I am v. happy.

I'm surprised at how bright and modern Gotham looks, even compared to Batman Begins. That's not a negative thing, it's just...different.

But yeah, I'm uber-excited.

batman 2: electric boogaloo

This batnerd says: boioioioioioing!

"Show me show me show me how you do that trick."

http://a230.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/83/l_55343cf917373fbe9b7645919397f4b5.gif

Heh. Closer to this, I think

http://www.smorty71.com/images/blog/kiss_tourbook.jpg

I freely believe that Paul Stanley has had some CRRRRAZY NIGHTS looking like that, yes.

"Some drunk-ass punk said I looked like the Crow and it was all a fog after that."

http://www.metal-experience.com/images/bands/kreator2007/watain10032007-12.jpg

http://blogs.amctv.com/monsterfest/images/2007/07/10/ichi_killer.gif

Huh. Trailer is pretty okay. They seem to be combining Nicholson's Joker with DeVito's Penguin somehow, maybe with a dash of Hannibal Lecter. I can dig it. Batguy looks more like Tom Cruise in every thing I see.

Mostly Nicholson though. Wow.

Yeah, it's definitely a Nicholson-influenced take but not a clone. I've got no problem with that!

Christopher Nolan's IMDB pic is kind of creepy:

http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/21/07/12m.jpg

Sounds like Cesar Romero's j-laugh.

Whoo! I do kind of feel from that trailer like I've already seen the whole movie, but I'll watch the full-length just to have more time to gaze at Christian Bale.

I don't see Nicholson there at all -- whereas Jack's Joker was a sadistic, but ultimately aloof, refined villain whose violence was mediated by henchmen or circus-type gadgetry. THIS Joker seems like the type to actually pop out your eyes with his thumbs.

nichelson's joker wanted you to take the toast and put it between your knees

also, not sure the characterization is going to hold up for the whole movie, but I'm really impressed at Ledger's transformation as seen here, especially in the physicality & vocal range. that chirpy "like me!" bit gave me a chill.

contrast: jack nicholson doing a jack nicholson voice

Jack Nicholson is apparently "disgusted" by all of this.

I am apparently apathetic about what Jack Nicholson thinks of anything. You made "Anger Management," Jacko, and it can't have been for the money at this late stage in the game. Ergo your opinion means precisely shit.

See also: "The Bucket List."

Anyone seen the trailer? I normally don't like Hollywood-type movies, especially comic book movies. But this -- this looks good.

WhySoSerious?

At first, I thought Ledger was a bad choice for the Joker. I might have been wrong.

That full length trailer is pretty special - I love Ledger's take on the Joker, it really feels like he is bringing something different to it which is an achievement in itself. Am very much into his weird intonation and emphasis on words eg. "to them, you're just a freeeek". The tech and action side of things looks like it's been given a mighty shot too, terrific looking Batpod etc.

The first 70 minutes or so of Batman Begins was my favourite part of any film that year, so I have high expectations of Nolan this time round. On this basis he may have pulled it off!

The thing Batman Begins lacked -- despite being a really well-made film -- was a compelling villan at the center of it. The Scarecrow character was great, and very creepy, but there just wasn't enough of him in the film. From this trailer, it appears they've solved that problem.

There were several lesser villains working in association in Batman Begins -- Raz al Ghul, Dr. Crane / Scarecrow, and Falconi -- but yeah, I'm really interested to see if Ledger's Joker will steal this movie like I think he might.

Totally agree about the lack of a compelling villain in BB - it was once the plot creaked into the climax that I felt it lost its way (a bit, still head and shoulders above most other recent comic adaptations).

There's about 6 minutes of the opening heist here:

http://theluis.com/2007/12/video-dark-knight-6-minute-prologe.html

Quality is a bit bob, but the film itself looks *great*. Also has a superb old-school John Carpenter-esque musical theme running in the background, which I hope will make it to the final cut.

can't... stop... watching... trailer...

joker costume design A+

Haha. I've watched it too many times, too.

http://thedarkknight.warnerbros.com/onesheet.jpg

That is one hell of a poster.

I still don't like the tag line much, but its incorporated a lot better in that poster that the one posted a while back.

The only things I don't like about the trailer are his transportation devices (do they have to be so blocky and unstylish? The car still looks like a charcoal brisquet) and that Bale appears to still be making a raspy "Batman" voice different than his Bruce Wayne voice.

than the one posted a while back

Totally with you on raspy voice and vehicles, although my main concern is the bright shiny chi-town standing in for Gotham. R.I.P., Anton Furst.

people who hate on the nu-batmobile are hella fired.

nu-bat vehicles are too compensaty

The Burton Batman movies aren't very good in retrospect but they got the design stuff right. The Batmobile in those two films is still the best screen incarnation to date, IMO.

That said, I think the Nolan Batmobile looks appropriate for what he's doing with these films.

i.e. the utilitarian, quasi-"realistic" approach to Batman

that prologue is so awesomely 70s French heist flick! I'm glad that Nolan has decided that Batman movies can be genre movies other than superhero genre movies.
Also, is Michael Caine the only non-American who doesn't have to fake an accent (though I think he does anyway) in this movie?

or was it in the Prestige where Michael Caine tutors Christian Bale in a cockney accent?

The Prestige (btw) totally counts as a Batman movie, as does I'm Not There, since it has Bale vs. Ledger.

Totally OTM about heist flicks and genre swapping, all of which I love it in theory. Just miss the atmosphere.

yeah, but Burton Batflicks were nothing but atmosphere (which is totally a valid reason to love them) and Michelle Pfeiffer ushering me through puberty in 126 minutes.

That's the only about "Returns" that still holds up.

Walken's "unlimited poontang" line was the only other reason.

those little penguins with rockets were cute

omg new trailer!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=iHufrsP9XMA

Hahah, nice.

Oh man, I hadn't seen that 6-minute clip until just now. I can barely wait!!

Spoilerish:
http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=21791

Worrisome. The problem with the first movie (as good as it was) is that it lacked a charismatic central villain to chew up scenery. Scarecrow would have been great, but -- apparently like the Joker here -- didn't get enough screentime to be that compelling central antagonist.

Still, the first film was great in spite of this flaw, and the promo for the new one looks even better.

Still, as they say in the piece, it's a neat peice of promotional slieght-of-hand. And the last time Bats fought the Joker on the big screen, the resulting film was terribly thinly-plotted.

Oh, I spelt 'Piece' two different ways there.

Two-Face is definitely better dramatic story arc fodder - I think its a good call to make him the focus, always loved the character (TLJ's performance/role was just a horrible disservice)

I watched the Burton Batman for the first time in years around xmas. Really charmed me. Almost every line felt like a nonsequitur! Jack Palance hissing anything >>>>>> Tom Wilkinson saying "you've never tasted desperate."

the first Burton movie is so awful. second one is much better

For the first half of the movie Batman doesn't really do anything other than flap his cape and harass (but not detain) criminals! Not sure how that's supposed to "stop crime" any more than a street mime does.

Not really a fan of the "utilitarian, quasi-'realistic'" man-in-tights film, but I'm still psyched to see this.

The second has a far more interesting set-up, but it kind of fluffs it in the second half. Wonderful art direction, though (duh, it's Burton).

isn't it totally tragic and fucked up when the penguins put Danny DeVito's body into the frozen lake at the end of Batman Returns?

-- BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, July 22, 2007 9:41 AM

Michael Keaton really gives a great performance in the first one. He's such an absent-minded freak in it.

Best pre-Bale Batman, for sure.

watched the Burton Batman for the first time in years around xmas. Really charmed me.

I love the reboot a lot, but I also love Burton's first Batman film. It's more comic book-y, but -- for its time, especially -- it was dark and brooding and epic (with some comic relief by Nickelson).

Christian Bale doesn't really give the "prancing around in a tight suit with bat ears is the way to stop crime" vibe. Val Kilmer and Adam West are at least inherently ridiculous people.

Maybe not but I love Christian Bale so it's irrelevant.

I think he's a pretty weak actor and his accents are getting worse and worse (dude actually claims he makes up a new one for EVERY movie), and yet I'll basically see anything he stars in, as they're almost always interesting movies.

One of the best things about Bale's performance is the way he makes it convincing that everyone wouldn't clock that Wayne is Batman straight away, by playing Wayne as a total buffoon.

xpost
His best performance is still Empire of the Sun.

Poll?

Batman Returns
Batman Begins
Batman with Cesar Romero
Batman

All the others.

xp No, it's "Treasure Island" with Charlton Heston, but I'll forgive you for not knowing it because I think it was made for American TV.

but he plays Batman the way a five year old would play the boogieman. "grrr, I'M GONNA EAT YOU! RASP!"

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(am i the only one who thought/thinks that nicholson's joker was sorta irritating?)

"Drunken Billionaire Burns Down Own Home" scene is Bale's shining moment in Batman Begins

Nicholson's Joker is awful, just Jack in bad makeup.

no im totally with you remy

xpost

I'll take Nicholson hamming it up as an absurd baddie (Batman, Departed, Witches Of Eastwick) over Nicholson's "hi, Oscar!" steez.

I really hope Heath Ledger remembers to dance.

BATDANCE!

DO THA BATUSI

"Drunken Billionaire Burns Down Own Home" scene is Bale's shining moment in Batman Begins

Nicholson's Joker is awful, just Jack in bad makeup.

-- Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, January 18, 2008 5:42 PM

so rite and so rong, respectively

I'm still not sure about Ledger, the trailer just feels a little hollow to me. When he chews on a word like "commissioner," I'm not sure if he's camping it up too much or not enough, and I could see his approach to the role wearing thin over the course of a whole movie. But then, the only starring role of his I've ever seen is 10 Things I Hate About You, so I have no idea what he's really capable of anyway (jeez, he really hasn't been in many movies, has he? I mean even for a younger actor).

I haven't seen 10 Things, but was Heath Ledger in that? Maybe it will come on cable soon.

As completely ridiculous as it was, I really love A Knight's Tale...and specifically his role therein.

Paul Bettany's Chaucer is totally the best part of Knight's Tale though.

I love me some two-face. I think this strategy is very interesting, and obviously meant to set up a third picture focusing on Jokes.

heath ledger vs. ryan phillipe vs. hayden christiansen

who can tell the dif?

I can see where you're coming from on the last two, but you seriously don't see the difference between Ledger and them?

has Hayden Christiansen been in anything else besides Lucas's CGI wet dreams?

shattered glass (great)
life as a house (terrible)
factory girl (okay)
jumper (ehh)

i'm being glib. i like all three of them, actually.

You saw Jumper already?

Don't think I've seen Darth Christiansen in anything else. Can he actually act? You can't tell that about anyone who you've only seen in a Lucas film.

Kinda wanna see

the 'great' up there is just to needle morbs

Jumper looks like it could be fun. Do you think they know it means 'sweater' over here?

"Wanker" title was taken, presumably

by you?

:-D

j/k

*rimshot*

I am glad that they aren't going to invent an origin story for the Joker, because so far they have all been ridiculously stupid.

"I woke up one day and felt a bit down."

"Yeah, thanks."

That 6 minute clips starts pretty good but man oh man does the dialogue get LAME at the end.

that's what dialog is for in action movies

anyway, very stoked for MORE ECKHART (which is weird, cuz wasn't the dirty cop in Burton's Batman named Eckhart? who was sorta based on Harvey Bullock? and A. Eckhart is playing a diff bat-character named Harvey, and I can't believe I have retained so much info from when i was 13, yet can't remember a quadratic equation or what it's for?) I only hope it's Thank You For Smoking Eckhart and not No Reservations Eckhart that shows up.
Hopefully Batman Begins 3 will have Clive Owen as Mr. Freeze or Film Freak or Calendar Man or KILLER MOTH (YESSSS)

it's all about the Bookworm

http://www.waswatching.com/archives/bookworm-thumb.jpg

i'm still kinda irked that billy dee williams never got to play two-face.

billy dee was hella smart and put in his contract that if someone else got to play harvey dent as two-face they'd have to pay him off.

I wonder if they have to pay him EVERY time somebody else plays Dent! Maybe he's making money off this movie! That would be totally fucking awesome.

^^

Well, damn.

Damn.

All we'll ever get is a short taste of what Ledger would have been like.

I'm certain it will still be released.