― chap who would dare to thwart the revolution (chap), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link
― dahlin (dahlin), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 19:36 (fifteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 19:37 (fifteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 20:25 (fifteen years ago) link
― stockholm cindy (from norway) (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 4 August 2005 06:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Dubrovnik is worth a stay of a couple of days. Lovingly restored with UN grants. Part of the deal restricted brand avdertising in the shops and cafes, so the main street doesn't look too touristy. I would also recommend Split. A Roman city (the palace of Diocletian) with lovely winding streets. If you have time, Croatia is great for island hopping. The ferries are cheap and regular. Try Korcula, Hvar & Vis. All are lovely, perhaps Korcula most of all.
From Dubrovnik there are several cheap tours you can do. The day trip to Serbia and Montenegro is excellent and you can also get to Mostar in Bosnia to see the restored bridge.
In the north of Croatia, Pula has a great ampitheatre and the town of Rovinj is one of the loveliest on the Adriatic. If you make it here, you can also get the bus to Piran in Slovenia, another beautiful port town.
I don't know Hungary so well, but preferred Buda to Pest. The island in the Danube (St Margarets?) is great for walking. Don't forget to see St Stephen's mummified finger in the cathedral and shine the horse's knackers in Buda.
I'm not sure if it's still there, but after the fall of communism, all the statues of the Soviet leaders were moved to a park on the outskirts. Worth a detour.
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 4 August 2005 06:44 (fifteen years ago) link
Statue Park is still on the outskirts of Budapest... or was last November.
In Buda Castle there is a great engraving of some guy presenting a model of a proposed cathedral to the King. The King looks like he is saying "What is this??? A Cathedral for ants???"
― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 4 August 2005 08:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Walking round the city walls is also good.
― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 4 August 2005 08:21 (fifteen years ago) link
― chap who would dare to thwart the revolution (chap), Thursday, 4 August 2005 10:58 (fifteen years ago) link
And afterward, have a beer on the terrace. Drink a Dreher, and I'm saying that because it's yummy beer, not just because it's the brewery my dad works for. Hell, have a couple. Go on.
Try Cafe Kor for dinner one night -- I remember it as having great food and atmosphere. It's been a couple of years since I went, though, mind, but it was still there last July. Tons of great restaurants in Budapest...
Enjoy the trip!
― Surfer_Stone_Rosalita (Surfer_Stone_Rosalita), Thursday, 4 August 2005 11:09 (fifteen years ago) link
hey im flying into dubrovnik in early september and out of budapest in mid/late sept--probably ferrying up the coast via split into zagreb and then from there to budapest
WHAT SHOULD I DO???
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:11 (eleven years ago) link
drink local beer
― 51 logins to SB Jol (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
stop by Hvar island (close to Dubrovnik) and spend at least a day in Split. Hell, if you're in Dubrovnik, you could even do a little tour to Mostar in Bosnia. The drive is amazing.
― baaderonixx, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:50 (eleven years ago) link
Fun in Hungary:
Getting drunk and forgetting where your hotel is located. Drunkenly asking for assistance. Trying to describe a city street that you can't quite recall, in sufficient detail to spark recognition in a random inhabitant of the town. Discovering aforesaid random inhabitant has very poor English skills, however eager they are to assist you. Trying to find your hotel through aimless wandering. Looking for taverns that are still open at 2am, so you can sit for a while and have a drink as you ponder your fate.
Fun in Croatia:
― Aimless, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 18:22 (eleven years ago) link
we couldnt find our digital cam so the only camera we had on the trip was this fujifilm instapix--it weighed like sixty pounds and only took good pics w/ a lot of sunlight--but luckily we had a lot of sunlight.
btw i am now an expert on croatia and hungary so just let me know if u have any questions
― fleetwood (max), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 17:48 (eleven years ago) link
― suggest friend (hmmmm), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 17:50 (eleven years ago) link
nice pics max
― il miglior Fabio (s1ocki), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 17:52 (eleven years ago) link
bump 4 planning a croatia/ hungary/ bosnia trip
― ( •ิ.•ั) (gr8080), Sunday, 24 July 2011 07:06 (nine years ago) link
Ahhhh it is the most beautiful place on earth. Where u going?
― max, Sunday, 24 July 2011 12:23 (nine years ago) link
the plan is zagreb > budapest > sarajevo > dubvornik > opatija > zagreb
― ( •ิ.•ั) (gr8080), Sunday, 24 July 2011 18:19 (nine years ago) link
i'll be with one of my best bros from high school who was born and raised in sarajevo, spent middle school through college in the US, but has been back in bosnia for the last 7 years or so
― ( •ิ.•ั) (gr8080), Sunday, 24 July 2011 18:22 (nine years ago) link
― max, Monday, 25 July 2011 21:18 (nine years ago) link
best food in the world in budapest/hungary
― night of the living based gods (flopson), Monday, 25 July 2011 21:19 (nine years ago) link
if you have time, I would recommend Eger in eastern Hungary, known as the "city of churches" it has a single mosque dating from Ottoman times, which looks extremely lonely amongst the spires which surround it. Also known for being the home of Tokay, aka Bull's Blood wine!
― Neil S, Monday, 25 July 2011 21:22 (nine years ago) link
this is just off the top of my head, ill update the thread if i remember more stuff
- zagreb is pretty boring, at least during the daytime, we stayed two days and two nights and would have been just fine with one day and one night.
- dubrovnik is absolutely beautiful, the most gorgeous place ive ever been. are you guys staying in b&b/pension-type places? it costs more to stay in the city walls but theres no real reason to do so, most of the bars in the walls get clogged with horrible australians. theres a famous bar thats on the rocks right outside the city walls--cant remember what its called but its in all the guides--its twice as expensive as any bar in croatia but is kind of unreal in terms of the view + you can swim right off the rocks there. ari and i spent 8 hours there one afternoon just watching the sunset and getting drunk on sweet wine.
- its totally worth taking day trips out of dubrovnik to the islands surrounding it--mljet in particular, which has an amazing national park with a beautiful lake for swimming and nice easy strolls. we also went to lopud which at the time had a pretty cool olafur eliasson installation, dunno if its still there.
- if you can swing it, hit the plitvice lakes national park for some really amazing walks and gorgeous scenery. you can "do" the whole park in a day, iirc its like 3-4 hours from zagreb, i assume there are places to stay nearby if you need to
- in budapest you have to, HAVE TO, eat at this little hungarian jewish place called fulemule, check out the menu here -- http://www.fulemule.hu/ -- nothing but duck and goose, the owner is so fat so you know its good, has a kind of checkered-tablecloth italian place vibe but seriously i had one of the best meals of my entire life here. o wait are you a vegetarian? worth breaking for this place imo.
- we had a kind of embarrassingly tourist-y visit to budapest but in all honesty the touristy stuff is worth going to. spend a whole day at the castle, check out the museums -- the "terror" museum is great but spooky -- go to a bath. we did a bunch of walking tours out of our lonely planet guide and they were actually really cool, the architecture in dat city is fantastic
― max, Monday, 25 July 2011 21:28 (nine years ago) link
matt dc just took a trip to croatia i believe and i bet hes got good recommendations for clubs and stuff
― max, Monday, 25 July 2011 21:29 (nine years ago) link
btw croatia is lousy with 20-year-old australians who are just the worst people basically on the planet
oh ALSO if you go to buda castle (which you should) and are walking around theres a GREAT little sausage-and-beer place thats perfectly situated for lunch AND is wayyy cheaper than the super tourist-trap places that are on the hill, some really nice tourist guide told us about it and it saved us from buying like 6-dollar cinnamon buns, of course i cant remember the name of it
also the labyrinth is a total rip off dont bother
― max, Monday, 25 July 2011 21:32 (nine years ago) link
just booked up for croatia in the last week of august. ~stoked~
― ༼◍ྀ ౪ ◍ི ༽ (cozen), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:21 (eight years ago) link
― ♆ (gr8080), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 19:57 (eight years ago) link
been trying to get there for years, starting to feel like i'll never make it.
― mizzell, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:00 (eight years ago) link
rough plan is dubrovnik - mljet - korcula - (hvar? if there's time) - split - home
― ༼◍ྀ ౪ ◍ི ༽ (cozen), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:07 (eight years ago) link
are you flying in to Zagreb? It's worth spending a day in.
Though, I'm American btw.
― ♆ (gr8080), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:15 (eight years ago) link
flying into dubrovnik, wasn't planning on spending any time in zagreb, heard it was a bit lackluster?
if we went north of split I think we'd maybe go to zadar instead
― ༼◍ྀ ౪ ◍ི ༽ (cozen), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:17 (eight years ago) link
or go to plitvice national park:
― ♆ (gr8080), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 23:20 (eight years ago) link
If you've got an extra day in Dubrovnik and a car, just over the border in Montenegro is Kotor. It's pretty amazing...
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 23:34 (eight years ago) link
Pula in the north is also great. The town itself is OK, but there are Roman-era ruins everywhere.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 23:37 (eight years ago) link
Zagreb's horrible, I wouldn't bother, virtually everywhere else I've been in Croatia is nicer.
If you get the chance it's worth going to Zadar as well, which is a fantastic Roman city and has an awesome sea organ plus massive solar panel installation. Good nightlife and amazing sunsets as well.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 14 June 2012 11:27 (eight years ago) link
I second Kotor. Bosnia is great as well if you've got time.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:25 (eight years ago) link
big up bosnia
mostar is about 2-3 hours from dubrovnik:http://i.imgur.com/0JJVp.jpg
― ♆ (gr8080), Friday, 15 June 2012 00:16 (eight years ago) link
You can pay local youths to jump off that bridge while you watch and eat fish.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 15 June 2012 16:55 (eight years ago) link
Man I loved the Balkans, have to go back.
― ♆ (gr8080), Friday, 15 June 2012 17:21 (eight years ago) link
ha woah this is crazy, i was just looking through my photos from when i was at Mostar, including this one:
and then looked at my facebook wall and a friend of mine "liked" Bing and this is how that showed up on my feed:
― ♆ (gr8080), Saturday, 16 June 2012 21:37 (eight years ago) link
Mostar looks amaaaaaaazing, wow.I didn't find much going on in Zagreb but I was mostly there on a Sunday, so that may be why.I really loved Plitvice national park, I very much recommend it... though in August it'll likely be rammed from around 11am onwards, so staying in one of the hotels in the park and getting in some early visiting before the tourist buses arrive is a good idea, if you go.
― salsa shark, Sunday, 17 June 2012 00:11 (eight years ago) link
there's cool stuff in zagreb! like i said above you dont need more than a day. but if you spend a day wandering you can check out a small charming city incl:
- very good (and europe's first!) folk/"naive" art museumhttp://i.minus.com/iU9mgIsf8bDy4.jpeg- gorgeous 19th-century cemeteryhttp://i.minus.com/iwG6rDVgMcdTV.jpeg- st mark's church (not much inside but great tiled roof)http://i.minus.com/i54Vdaz2RdmH7.jpeg- the farmers markethttp://i.minus.com/if4RAHUgu3vWE.jpeg- "old town gate," -- now a kind of small alley with a beautiful/cool/creepy shrine to the virgin mary
haha that doesnt seem like much written out and my polaroids dont do it justice but its a nice way to spend a gorgeous day
i stand by basically everything i wrote to grady above. korcula is beautiful, though stick to the old town side of the island, mljet is even prettier, split is charming and has great roman ruins. you cant go wrong. watch the sunset every night.
― max, Sunday, 24 June 2012 15:53 (eight years ago) link
max otm re: zagreb, however i think it might easier to enjoy if you haven't grown up in (or even spent a lot of time traveling through) other european countries
sorry to spam another thread but i just self-published a booklet of photos i took in croatia, bosnia, and hungary. its mostly photos of the three dudes i went there with, but it came out pretty good. you can order it here.
or you can just look at my photos from that trip on facebook
― ♆ (gr8080), Sunday, 24 June 2012 16:48 (eight years ago) link
― max, Sunday, 24 June 2012 17:47 (eight years ago) link
i also enjoyed visiting The Museum of Broken Relationships on the day I had to myself in Zagreb
― ♆ (gr8080), Sunday, 24 June 2012 18:28 (eight years ago) link
oh this should go without saying, but stay out of Budapest's many strip clubs.
― ♆ (gr8080), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:39 (eight years ago) link
― skrill xx (cozen), Wednesday, 15 August 2012 20:45 (eight years ago) link
ur going to hungary?
― surm, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 20:46 (eight years ago) link
onvm i see upthread
― surm, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 20:55 (eight years ago) link
Anyone been to Dubrovnik lately? Still a good destination?
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 24 June 2018 22:38 (two years ago) link
I've been living in Zadar county for the last few months, but haven't made it any further south than Split. Prices in summer are ridiculous compared to rest of year, and I can only imagine Dubrovnik is completely overwhelmed in summer months - never been but I was under impression its one of those places that is crumbling under the weight of visitors, esp given its small size
― cherry blossom, Monday, 25 June 2018 11:40 (two years ago) link
Yeah that was what I was worried about! My partner works at a school so we're tied to taking holidays in mid-July to mid-Aug. Wondering if there's anywhere Croatia/Slovenia/ish that's pretty and relaxing and not full of holiday drunks.
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 25 June 2018 12:00 (two years ago) link
Lake Bled looks pretty. But hard to tell if it's mental or just average crowded in midsummer. I've heard good things about Lake Milstatt in Austria.
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 25 June 2018 12:01 (two years ago) link
Dubrovnik is packed during the day and relatively quiet in mornings and evenings. In season, a vast proportion of the visitors are cruise passengers who clear out at about 4pm.
― Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 25 June 2018 12:13 (two years ago) link
If you want to have an incredible diverse holiday with minimal travelling then Slovenia is one of the best places you can go. Lake Bled is busy but the place is astonishingly beautiful - I went there in the height of the summer and it was busy but by no means overwhelmed, there are plenty of quieter bits where you can lounge around and swim etc. Bled -> Ljubljana -> Piran would give you a lot of variety and Piran itself is a beautiful little coastal town with a decent beach.
In Croatia - Zadar is wonderful, Split is OK but gets very crowded, I guess Dubrovnik is even crazier. A lot of the smaller islands would be great as well.
― Matt DC, Monday, 25 June 2018 12:20 (two years ago) link
That’s great to know, thanks! Did you need a car or is it ok for trains?
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 25 June 2018 12:29 (two years ago) link
We did all of Slovenia on trains, it's a very small country and you can head up and down it with ease.
You are genuinely better off getting the bus in Croatia, or a ferry if you're heading up and down the coast. The trains take a long time and don't go any further south than Split.
― Matt DC, Monday, 25 June 2018 13:30 (two years ago) link
The buses are reliable and frequent, and mostly have wifi. the ferries are nice but can be long and arent as frequent, depending on route, not sure on if you can boat from Pula/Rijeka/Zadar down to Split or Dubrovnik, but buses are all the time
― cherry blossom, Monday, 25 June 2018 14:14 (two years ago) link
Soča Valley in Slovenia is beautiful, quite relaxed even in summer and great for hiking into the mountains if you're into that. Probably requires travelling by bus if you're depending on public transport though.
― willem, Monday, 25 June 2018 14:22 (two years ago) link
i regretted not renting a car in rural slovenia, though trains and buses around population centers were very effective.
― adam, Monday, 25 June 2018 14:46 (two years ago) link
Enjoyed Dubrovnik last May, it's tourist-y for sure but we were there before the real busy season kicked in. Taking the ferry to Lokrum for an afternoon was the highlight, probably.
― change display name (Jordan), Monday, 25 June 2018 14:53 (two years ago) link
Matt DC, we've basically part-pilfered your holiday: Ljubljana > Piran > Bled, and then up to Lake Milstatt in Austria. Thanks for the tips - I was having one of those "there's too much choice" panics about what to book and that was really helpful!
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 25 June 2018 23:55 (two years ago) link
I was actually in Dubrovnik yesterday (albeit briefly, my bus transfer was there), it appeared much less crowded than I thought it would be (bus station seems relatively central) - may back up what ShariVari was saying (though this was around noon, would have thought the cruise ships lads would have been in by then?)
― cherry blossom, Monday, 2 July 2018 18:23 (two years ago) link
Going to Debrecen on thursday for the Bela Bartok Choir Competition. Then a couple of days in Cluj and Sibiu in Romania. Any mustsees in those areas? I know a lot of Romanian classics are shot in those two cities, but it's probably tough to drag my fellow choir members to a concrete monstrosity that I saw in that one film that one time.
― Frederik B, Monday, 2 July 2018 20:21 (two years ago) link
Right, then. Croatia in June for less than £500 per person (two people) from the UK. Any ideas?
― djh, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 19:46 (two years ago) link
― djh, Thursday, 11 April 2019 19:42 (two years ago) link
How long are you planning on being there for?
― Matt DC, Friday, 12 April 2019 22:52 (two years ago) link
I'm not sure about the budgetary constraints but when I was there we stayed in cavtat the first night, seemed like a nice enough little semi-contained resort town with decent swimming and some restaurants, and a lot of fancy yachts. dubrovnik definitely worth a visit though eating within the walls can be expensive. split was great - good fun watching people play picigin on plitvice beach at sundown. we day tripped to mostar (in bosnia-h) from dubrovnik too which was worth doing.
we never made it to any of the islands or national parks... though hear they're the true stars of the show
― ... and the crowd said DESELECT THEM (||||||||), Saturday, 13 April 2019 09:55 (two years ago) link
June may still be early enough that the national parks aren't mad busy, but idk - wouldn't bet against it either
Zadar and surrounding region are very user-friendly, particularly for public transport - the buses (and app) are excellent, even extending out to buses on the islands (Ugljan and Pasman)
― cherry blossom, Saturday, 13 April 2019 10:03 (two years ago) link