ILX Best Films of the 1970s

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So I'm going to go ahead and start this. There is no official nomination process, you can just use this thread to list and talk up your favorites. It would be nice if someone kept track of all films listed, for reference, but I'm not going to do that.

You can send a ballot in to me at any time, the email address is ilx1970sfilm@gmail.com. I will receive ballots for ONE MONTH!!! This is plenty of time, I will take nothing else after August 22, 12 noon CST. This is the only time period that you have to remember. I will bump the topic up each time it falls off the front page, but I will do nothing to get people to send ballots in. If you want 10 people to decide the best films of the 70s, fine by me. After that, I will compile the results and have the reveal.

Point system is as follows: Vote for 20 Films. Your number 1 = 20 pts, 2 = 19pts, etc.

Go.


Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 22 July 2005 16:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, I will pull comments from this thread and whatever else I Can find on ILX, but if you send me some with your ballots, it would be greatly appreciated.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 22 July 2005 16:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Twenty? Just twenty?

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 22 July 2005 16:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Just twenty, MAKE THEM COUNT

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 22 July 2005 16:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Or 30, if there is overwhemling need. The 70s was a great decade for film.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 22 July 2005 16:56 (eighteen years ago) link

no stick to yr guns man, 20 is perfect number

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 22 July 2005 16:57 (eighteen years ago) link

YEAH!

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 22 July 2005 16:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Some noms up front:

Patton
The Deer Hunter
The French Connection
Jaws
Taxi Driver
The Godfather
The Godfather Part II
Apocalypse Now

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 22 July 2005 16:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Blazing Saddles
A Clockwork Orange
Eraserhead

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 22 July 2005 17:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Some Altman:

Nashville
The Long Goodbye
McCabe & Mrs. Miller
M*A*S*H

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 22 July 2005 17:01 (eighteen years ago) link

STAR WARS

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 22 July 2005 17:03 (eighteen years ago) link

people please email yr noms to Jeff instead of putting them all here, follow one directions

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 22 July 2005 17:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Annie Hall
Barry Lyndon
Cabaret

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 22 July 2005 17:04 (eighteen years ago) link

okay i take it back, 'follow one directions' myself!

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 22 July 2005 17:05 (eighteen years ago) link

You don't have to email them to me, since they are only used to talk up your favorite films, the only thing I want emailed to me is your finished ballot of 20.

xpost Yes!

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 22 July 2005 17:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Jeff, you are doing this the RIGHT WAY.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 22 July 2005 17:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Badlands
Carrie
Don't Look Now

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 22 July 2005 17:11 (eighteen years ago) link

My favorite movie of all time, probably, is from 1974: Young Frankenstein. I hope it gets some love around here.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 22 July 2005 17:12 (eighteen years ago) link

At this moment, that is my #2 right behind Erasherhead.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 22 July 2005 17:19 (eighteen years ago) link

It will. (xp)

Truckdrivin' Buddha (Rock Hardy), Friday, 22 July 2005 17:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I love it.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 22 July 2005 17:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Abby Normal, sir?

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 22 July 2005 17:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Blucher!

Truckdrivin' Buddha (Rock Hardy), Friday, 22 July 2005 17:23 (eighteen years ago) link

I could make a top 20 list comprised 100% of Gene Hackman-related movies.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 22 July 2005 17:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Everybody vote for Wise Blood - John Huston, 1979.

And please put loads of suggestions on this page as I'm positive I will forget many brilliant films.

Have we had a 1960s one yet?

emil.y (emil.y), Friday, 22 July 2005 17:35 (eighteen years ago) link

chinatown
the tenant
tout va bien
last picture show
the sting
spirit of the beehive
The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie
a woman under the influence
killing of a chinese bookie

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Friday, 22 July 2005 17:50 (eighteen years ago) link

the 60's were a much better decade, but the 70's were ok.

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Friday, 22 July 2005 17:51 (eighteen years ago) link


All of Fassbinder.

Wrong Huston up there. The Man Who Would Be King.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 July 2005 17:57 (eighteen years ago) link

oh god yes.

ali: fear eats the soul is soooo good.

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Friday, 22 July 2005 18:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Aguirre the Wrath of God

Robert Aldrich's Vietnam western "Ulzana's Raid"

Jeanne Dielman

Bresson's "The Devil Probably"

Mikey & Nicky

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 July 2005 18:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Cries and Whispers

Day for Night

Five Easy Pieces

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 22 July 2005 18:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Mean Streets

Animal House

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 22 July 2005 18:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Amarcord

The Conversation

Manhattan

jedidiah (jedidiah), Friday, 22 July 2005 18:19 (eighteen years ago) link

The Red Circle (Jean-Pierre Melville)
*A crime film with the coolest characters ever?

Millhouse (Emile de Antonio)
*The power of montage!

Shaft

The Grande Bouffe (Marco Ferreri)
*A much better (and less literal) interpretation of The 120 Days of Sodom than Pasolini's crappy version. Four bored bourgeiose men decide to eat themselves to death!

Phantom of the Paradise

Don't Touch the White Woman! (Ferreri)
*What if general Custer had fought against Indians in modern Paris? Great surrealist fun.

Barry Lyndon
*Definitely underrated.

The Man Who Would Be King

Small Change (Truffaut)
*The best film about childhood ever?

The Tenant
*The weirdest, most disturbing film Polanski has ever made.

Silent Movie (Mel Brooks)

Cross of Iron (Peckinpah)

Attack of the Killer Tomatoes

The Lord of the Rings (Ralph Bakshi)
*Loved it as a kid, too bad Bakshi didn't get the chance to make the second half.

The Adventures of Picasso (Tage Danielsson)
*The best post-sound silent film I've ever seen.

Lupin III: The Mystery of Mamo

1941 (Spielberg)
*Spielberg's best film, also his response to Dr. Strangelove.

Life of Brian

Manhattan
*Woody Allen's best, probably, though there's plenty to choose from.

Stalker
*In my book, the best movie of the decade.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 22 July 2005 18:29 (eighteen years ago) link

The Mirror (Tarkovsky)
O Lucky Man!
Sounder
Blue Collar
Richard Pryor: Live in Concert
Sweet Sweetback's Badassssss Song
Little Big Man
The Mouth Agape (Pialat)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 July 2005 18:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Wait, guys - I've just seen on IMDB that BEYOND THE VALLEY OF THE DOLLS was made in 1970! I'd always assumed that it was late 60s, but no. Vote vote vote for this masterpiece.

emil.y (emil.y), Friday, 22 July 2005 18:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, something pleases me immensely that Tuomas is a Phantom of the Paradise fan.

emil.y (emil.y), Friday, 22 July 2005 18:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Oops.

emil.y (emil.y), Friday, 22 July 2005 18:46 (eighteen years ago) link

The Three Musketeers (Richard Lester version)
M*A*S*H
McCabe & Mrs Miller
Kentucky Fried Movie
Enter the Dragon


oops. some of these have alrady been mentioned. oh well.

kingfish (Kingfish), Friday, 22 July 2005 18:49 (eighteen years ago) link

THE WIZARDS

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 22 July 2005 18:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I had no idea that it was really that easy to edit on Wikipedia. I just looked at their list of 70s films, and Raging Bull (1980) was listed, so I deleted it. Voila!

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 22 July 2005 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Days of Heaven
The Muppet Movie

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 22 July 2005 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link

BEYOND THE VALLEY OF THE DOLLS, tho intentionally and somewhat amusingly bad, is still a bad film.


Xala (Sembene) (now on DVD)
Killer of Sheep
The Go-Between
Blume In Love
Dog Day Afternoon
The Twelve Chairs
Wattstax
The Last Waltz
New York, New York
Real Life

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 July 2005 19:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Bad News Bears
Breaking Away

Pete Scholtes, Friday, 22 July 2005 19:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Love and Death
The Holy Grail
The Exorcist
Network
The Last Detail
Harold & Maude
Dawn of the Dead
Phantasm
Lenny

darin (darin), Friday, 22 July 2005 19:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Network! I so love Network.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 22 July 2005 19:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I kinda half-heartedly suggest The Wiz now. I love it with all my heart, but I realize it might not really be that great a movie.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 22 July 2005 19:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I just realized that my two favorite films of the 70s are probably THE WIZARDS and THE WIZ.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 22 July 2005 19:17 (eighteen years ago) link

GATES OF HEAVEN

(out on DVD Tuesday or today if you're me)

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 22 July 2005 19:20 (eighteen years ago) link

The Green Room
Two English Girls
Chloe in the Afternoon
The Man Who Fell to Earth
Hearts & Minds

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 July 2005 19:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Alien
Mad Max

darin (darin), Friday, 22 July 2005 19:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Claire's Knee

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 22 July 2005 19:29 (eighteen years ago) link

There is no way in the universe that Beyond The Valley Of The Dolls is a bad film. Yes, it has self-consciously cheesy bits, but it also has everything! you'd! ever! want! ever! in a film: it is hilarious (eminently quotable); the music is amazing; you can be a seedy lust-merchant if you really want to be; it is truly deranged and psychedelic in places; the cinematography and editing are actually very good and if not comparable to a beautiful art-piece then it's definitely above the level of most Hollywood films and it all fits perfectly into the pace, mood and context of the film; the casting and mise-en-scene creation are perfect; good lord, there is nothing wrong with it at all.

emil.y (emil.y), Friday, 22 July 2005 19:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Above the level of most Hollywood movies in having a detectably 'unique' sensibility, yes. One of the best 100 films made in the world in the '70s, no.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 July 2005 20:09 (eighteen years ago) link

The Wicker Man
Get Carter
Lancelot Du Lac
Even Dwarfs Started Small

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Friday, 22 July 2005 20:47 (eighteen years ago) link

The only three films I can think of at the moment are Saturday Night Fever, All The President's Men, and Rocky. Those are the three films I think of when I think of '70s films, and I really liked all three, so there you go. Oh! And Rocky Horror Picture Show. Gotta add that to the list. Um, aside from that -- total '80s person & beyond. ;) I think I'll leave the rest of you to do the rest of the nominating.

The Kind and Benevolent Oracle of Dee (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 22 July 2005 22:36 (eighteen years ago) link

would anyone object if i decided to do a '60s film poll, or should i wait till this one is over?

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 22 July 2005 23:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I think they're more fun one at a time, but whatever.

I don't actually know if these will make my 20, but worth mentioning:

In the Realm of the Senses
Over the Edge
The Sugarland Express
Across 110th Street

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 22 July 2005 23:15 (eighteen years ago) link

I have a lot of these I want to see. Here's my current list for the time being, which is a bit mediocre considering that I can't think of many films from the Seventies that I've seen.

20. The Rocky Horror Picture Show
19. Fantasy Mission Force
18. Smokey and the Bandit
17. Apocalypse Now
16. Star Wars
15. Walkabout
14. Young Frankenstein
13. The Woman With Red Boots
12. National Lampoon's Animal House
11. The Story of Adele H.
10. That Obscure Object of Desire
9. Monty Python's Life of Brian
8. The Offence
7. Eraserhead
6. Monty Python and the Holy Grail
5. Aguirre: The Wrath of God
4. The Wicker Man
3. Network
2. The Harder They Come
1. Two-Lane Blacktop

Kitten, the body needs it, the body cries out for Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Ma, Saturday, 23 July 2005 01:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I'll probably update it latter when I can come up with some better films I've seen.

Kitten, the body needs it, the body cries out for Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Ma, Saturday, 23 July 2005 01:47 (eighteen years ago) link

3 Women
The Hospital
Dersu Uzala

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 23 July 2005 01:49 (eighteen years ago) link

The Warriors

Seuss, Saturday, 23 July 2005 01:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Young Frankenstein! How could I have forgotten?? (i.e., good one, Ian.) AND speaking of Gene Wilder -- WILLY WONKA & THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY!!!! How much of a part of our childhood was that film, fellow Gen X - and - beyond-ers? ;)

That's it. I think that's all I can name now.

The Kind and Benevolent Oracle of Dee (Dee the Lurker), Saturday, 23 July 2005 01:57 (eighteen years ago) link

cries and whispers
jaws
a woman under the influence
young frankenstein
weekend
female trouble
harold and maude
nashville
annie hall
eraserhead
monty python and the holy grail
beyond the valley of the dolls
aguirre: wrath of god
ali: fear eats the soul
the act of seeing with one's own eyes

(god my list is boring)

joseph (joseph), Saturday, 23 July 2005 02:38 (eighteen years ago) link

SHIT weekend is from '67, scratch that off

but add:
the spirit of the beehive
lucifer rising
sweet movie
valentin de las sierras

joseph (joseph), Saturday, 23 July 2005 02:44 (eighteen years ago) link

am i the only one who always thought the monty python movies were way inferior to the tv show?

i'm having trouble coming up with my own list; i'm a bit bored of the usual crop of classics from this decade (coppola, scorsese, altman blah blah blah) but i can't exactly dismiss them either. a few i like:

f for fake
duel
taxi driver
alien
being there
quadrophenia

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 23 July 2005 02:58 (eighteen years ago) link

(actually props to morbs for reminding me of real life! it's been awhile since i've seen it but young'un joe loved it)

joseph (joseph), Saturday, 23 July 2005 03:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Black Christmas
A Fistful of Dynamite
Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid
Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia
The Getaway
Straw Dogs
The Ballad of Cable Hogue
The Iron Cross
Junior Bonner
Close Encounters of the Third Kind
High Plains Drifter
Saint Jack

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 23 July 2005 03:08 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm a bit bored of the usual crop of classics from this decade

I'm a bit bored of them in theory, but whenever I actually see most of them I get unbored again.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 23 July 2005 03:14 (eighteen years ago) link

eraserhead was so bad. i am the happiest man alive for not blind-buying the dvd from davidlynch.com

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Saturday, 23 July 2005 05:30 (eighteen years ago) link

harold and maude, without a doubt.

bela lugosi meets a brooklyn gorilla (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 23 July 2005 06:03 (eighteen years ago) link

and brewster mccloud.

bela lugosi meets a brooklyn gorilla (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 23 July 2005 06:06 (eighteen years ago) link

La Maman et La Putain
Picnic at Hanging Rock

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 23 July 2005 06:57 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm a bit bored of the usual crop of classics from this decade

Oh come on. If you're bored watching Patton you need to check your pulse.

If I'm bored with any of these, it's only from overviewing. Like Apocalypse Now.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 23 July 2005 11:05 (eighteen years ago) link

i should explain: i'm not actually bored WITH a lot of these movies, i'm just bored of hearing about them! but yeah, most of them do hold up surprisingly well, despite the overexposure.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 23 July 2005 11:29 (eighteen years ago) link

(If I buy a DVD player, as I might finally get around to doing this fall, these threads will be very useful, if a bit overwhelming.)

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 23 July 2005 12:06 (eighteen years ago) link

don't forget the decade of alan arkin:

7% solution
fire sale
catch-22
deadhead miles (for you malick fans)
last of the red hot lovers
freebie & the bean
rafferty & the gold dust twins
the in-laws
hearts of the west
little murders

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 23 July 2005 12:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Wow, I haven't thought about Young Frankenstein in possibly a decade or so.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 23 July 2005 12:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Freebie and the Bean! I love that film. Also Breaking Away and The Bad News Bears.

Not forgetting A Boy and His Dog, the only good thing Don Johnson has ever done.

Did we say Cabaret yet? I didn't see it.

If you had asked me in 1980, when I was ten, what my favourite films of the seventies were, I would have said The Bad News Bears, The Rescuers, Watership Down, and Breaking Away.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Saturday, 23 July 2005 13:49 (eighteen years ago) link

My list will probably be herzog heavy

aguirre
even dwarfs started small
kasper hauser
heart of glass
Stroszek

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Saturday, 23 July 2005 13:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I got A Boy and His Dog as a gift. I don't want to say it was good, but it was certainly different. Better than Mad Max, at least.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Saturday, 23 July 2005 14:33 (eighteen years ago) link

California Spilt
Who Is Harry Kellerman And Why Is He Saying Those Terrible Things About Me?
Smile
Letter To Jane
Jonah, Who Will Be 25 In The Year 2000
Night Moves
Vanishing Point
Over The Edge
Bed & Board
The Conformist
Smokey & The Bandit
American Graffiti
Dirty Harry
Little Big Man
Performance
Airport (the one good one in the franchise)

Apologies for any dupes.


Marxism Goes Better With Coke (Charles McCain), Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Also:
The Heartbreak Kid
The Outlaw Josey Wales
Thunderbolt & Lightfoot
Play It Again Sam
The Jerk
Papillon

Marxism Goes Better With Coke (Charles McCain), Saturday, 23 July 2005 16:37 (eighteen years ago) link

some of my favorite new york films of the '70s:

the out-of-towners
three days of the condor
a new leaf
an unmarried woman

juicy juice is 100 percent juice (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 23 July 2005 17:15 (eighteen years ago) link

let's throw the hot rock in there too. 1972 redford = hottie.

juicy juice is 100 percent juice (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 23 July 2005 17:16 (eighteen years ago) link

and harry and tonto.

juicy juice is 100 percent juice (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 23 July 2005 17:18 (eighteen years ago) link

and the sunshine boys!

juicy juice is 100 percent juice (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 23 July 2005 17:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Halloween
The Brood
The Fury

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 24 July 2005 03:07 (eighteen years ago) link

BUMP.

Good good.

http://www.panix.com/~dangelo/top.html

some good lists here.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 24 July 2005 16:34 (eighteen years ago) link

I wouldn't say so... Dude has Badlands, Close Encounters of the Third Kind and Eraserhead as the best of their respective years! And his two best films of 2001 are Memento and The Man Who Wasn't There! Not that any of these really suck, but surely there are better nominees.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 24 July 2005 16:48 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't think badlands is such a bad choice for 1973.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 24 July 2005 18:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Woodstock: 3 Days of Peace & Music
Pumping Iron
Cheech and Chong's Up in Smoke
Rock 'n' Roll High School
THX 1138

richardk (Richard K), Monday, 25 July 2005 06:59 (eighteen years ago) link

the new one-armed swordsman

fe zaffe (fezaffe), Monday, 25 July 2005 07:21 (eighteen years ago) link

beyond the valley of the dolls pales before the '70s output of meyer's heir john waters (esp FEMALE TROUBLE)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 July 2005 12:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Shoot, I forgot about the original Willy Wonka and THX-1138!
Great decade for martial arts, including -

Master Of The Flying Guillotine (1974, Jimmy Wang Yu)
36th Chamber Of Shaolin (1978, Lau Kar-Leung)
Magnificent Butcher (1979, Yuen Woo-ping)

Also -

The Chant Of Jimmy Blacksmith (1978, Fred Schepisi)

Mil (Mil), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 10:25 (eighteen years ago) link

for horror fans Suspiria is a must.

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 12:33 (eighteen years ago) link

for horror fans Suspiria is a must!

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 12:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Wow I haven't seen any of those Arkin movies. I loved The Heart Is a Lonely Hunter when I was little...

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 26 July 2005 13:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm going to make a big pitch for The War At Home (1979)
http://imdb.com/title/tt0080118/

It provided the template for later '60s documentaries, from Eyes on the Prize to Berkley in the Sixties, in how it used news footage and vintage popular music (especially "For What It's Worth" and "We Should Be Together"). It was also very good in its tone--sympathetic but also ironic and objective. If there's a better video history of the anti-Vietnam War movement, I'd love to see it. This one was nominated for an Academy Award.

Though it was a TV series, not a movie, the documentary that Real Life was satirizing is also worth seeing if you can: 1973's An American Family. Reality TV starts here.
http://imdb.com/title/tt0211195/

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 26 July 2005 13:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Scratch "video history" and replace with "film history."

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 26 July 2005 13:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Picking only 20 films from the '70s is faintly ridiculous; how do you pick among the various significant Altmans, Fassbinders, Tarkovskys, Mazurskys, Bergmans? If you limit it to one or two of each, picking them 'symbolically', then the other fans of those auteurs will likely pick different ones. So The Godfather(s) and Star Wars win in a walk.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 13:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Another vote for 30. :)

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 26 July 2005 14:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Don't mind me, I'm not voting.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 14:06 (eighteen years ago) link

"Solaris" (Tarkovsky, 1972)

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 14:07 (eighteen years ago) link

So The Godfather(s) and Star Wars win in a walk.

sheesh, they would have anyway

fe zaffe (fezaffe), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 14:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Yep. So why have a poll, again?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 14:23 (eighteen years ago) link

The Sorrow and the Pity

One of the greatest documentaries ever...

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 26 July 2005 14:27 (eighteen years ago) link

The China Syndrome
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 26 July 2005 14:28 (eighteen years ago) link

My best argument for a Top 30 rather than a Top 20: Grease. Okay, maybe I have to do better than that...

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 26 July 2005 14:33 (eighteen years ago) link

oh god oh god i almost forgot:

harlan county

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 16:09 (eighteen years ago) link

I want to do the '60s poll!!

I might start the nominations process concurrently with this one but wait until this is over and done with completely to get the voting started.

I think that decade is more unpredictable, which is why I'd find it interesting to do.

gear (gear), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 17:47 (eighteen years ago) link

My best argument for a Top 30 rather than a Top 20: Grease.

Oooo! Thanks for reminding me. Now I have to figure out where to rank it on the list.

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 22:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Dawn of the Dead
The Wicker Man
Willard
The Brood
Susperia
Phantasm
Carrie
Deep Red
Texas Chainsaw Massacre
Last House on the Left
Night of the Lepus
Halloween
Marathon Man
Black Christmas
Jaws
The Sentinel
The Exorcist
Theatre of Blood
The Omen
Alien
Deathrace 2000

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 14:41 (eighteen years ago) link

bump.

I've recieved a whopping 0 submissions so far. 3 weeks and 4 days till poll closes.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 28 July 2005 20:37 (eighteen years ago) link

This is the time for kibitzing.

Truckdrivin' Buddha (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 28 July 2005 20:45 (eighteen years ago) link

I think this is confusing some people since there usually is a list to choose from and a voting period that lasts a month or so.

gear (gear), Thursday, 28 July 2005 21:15 (eighteen years ago) link

people! be smarter! it's not complicated. Also, if someone would compile a list, that would be great.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 29 July 2005 00:24 (eighteen years ago) link

i still have to see some of the movies listed before i can truly make a sound judgement... but i do have a preliminary list

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Friday, 29 July 2005 00:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Is there any love for Klute (1971)?

Truckdrivin' Buddha (Rock Hardy), Friday, 29 July 2005 02:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Picking only 20 films from the '70s is faintly ridiculous

Sure, but no more so than any other such endeavor. The Sight and Sound poll only allows 10 picks, across the entirety of cinema history. Of course it's a ridiculous exercise. But it's fun. People like making lists and arguing about them. And you like arguing about them too, Dr.M., or you wouldn't always show up on these threads. I respect your taste and your thoughts on film, but your principled disdain is a little comical.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 29 July 2005 03:09 (eighteen years ago) link

COMICAL LIKE MONTY PYTHON AND THE HOLY GRAIL (1975)

Truckdrivin' Buddha (Rock Hardy), Friday, 29 July 2005 03:13 (eighteen years ago) link

OR THEY MIGHT BE GIANTS (1971)

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 29 July 2005 03:39 (eighteen years ago) link

OR SHIT-YOUR-PANTS HILARIOUIS LIKE WHAT'S UP DOC (1972)

Truckdrivin' Buddha (Rock Hardy), Friday, 29 July 2005 03:50 (eighteen years ago) link

So,
Francis Ford Coppola : 1970s poll :: Radiohead : 2000 poll?

Or maybe Lucas would make more sense there

richardk (Richard K), Friday, 29 July 2005 10:03 (eighteen years ago) link

>your principled disdain is a little comical.

I dare you to find a principle in my disdain!

Sure I like throwing out lists of great movies, but since no two of my own from week to week would match, locking them into a ballot is just too labor-intensive to me.

Alec Guinness on Star Wars in new bio: "fairy-tale rubbish"

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 29 July 2005 12:43 (eighteen years ago) link

bump

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Saturday, 30 July 2005 19:02 (eighteen years ago) link

in order:

Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory
Annie Hall
Network
Love and Death
Papillon
Taxi Driver
The Concert for Bangladesh
Up in Smoke
Manhattan
Woodstock
The Godfather: Part II
Master of the Flying Guillotine v. One Armed Boxer
Aguirre, Wrath of God
McCabe & Mrs. Miller
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Young Frankenstein
Get Carter
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
The Texas Chain Saw Massacre
Invincible Armour

tremendoid (tremendoid), Saturday, 30 July 2005 20:59 (eighteen years ago) link

oops, I'll email them. I need to make a few revisions anyway(damn you IMDB!)

tremendoid (tremendoid), Saturday, 30 July 2005 21:13 (eighteen years ago) link

My shortlist, not necessarily in final order or anything:

Manhattan
The Last Picture Show
Annie Hall
Solaris
Don't Look Now
The Godfather
The Godfather part II
Taxi Driver
Harold & Maude
Stalker
The Harder They Come
Deep End
Catch-22
In the Realm of the Senses
Day For Night
Play It Again Sam
The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie
Mean Streets
Walkabout
The Shout (not seen this mentioned - another oddity by Skolimowski, who made Deep End above)
That Obscure Object of Desire
Phantasm
M*A*S*H
Young Frankenstein
Sleeper
The Man Who Fell to Earth

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 30 July 2005 21:37 (eighteen years ago) link

excellent, the ballots are starting to come in now. Thank you all.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Saturday, 30 July 2005 21:47 (eighteen years ago) link

how about this, everybody who sends me a ballot, I will randomly draw a name at the end, and will send you a $20 amazon gift certificate. Not much, but you can get a book or a cd or a vibrator.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Saturday, 30 July 2005 21:49 (eighteen years ago) link

and don't tell me not to do that, it's my poll and I'll cry if I want to.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Saturday, 30 July 2005 21:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm surprised to find Last Tango In Paris not already on this thread. I just submitted my ballot -- this was my #1.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 30 July 2005 22:12 (eighteen years ago) link

So I said I wasn't going to do this, but I felt sorry for everyone. Listing of what's been mentioned (more or less)

1941
3 Women
36th Chamber Of Shaolin
7% solution
A Boy and His Dog
A Clockwork Orange
A Fistful of Dynamite
a new leaf
a woman under the influence
Across 110th Street
Aguirre the Wrath of God
Airport
ali: fear eats the soul
Alien
Amarcord
American Graffiti
an unmarried woman
Animal House
Annie Hall
Apocalypse Now
Attack of the Killer Tomatoes
Bad News Bears
Badlands
Barry Lyndon
Bed & Board
being there
Beyond the Valley of the Dolls
Black Christmas
Blazing Saddles
Blue Collar
Blume In Love
Breaking Away
brewster mccloud
Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia
Cabaret
California Spilt
Carrie
catch-22
Cheech and Chong's Up in Smoke
chinatown
Chloe in the Afternoon
Claire's Knee
Close Encounters of the Third Kind
Cries and Whispers
Cross of Iron
Dawn of the Dead
Day for Night
Days of Heaven
deadhead miles (for you malick fans)
Deathrace 2000
Deep End
Deep Red
Dersu Uzala
Dirty Harry
Dog Day Afternoon
Don't Look Now
Don't Touch the White Woman!
duel
Enter the Dragon
Eraserhead
Even Dwarfs Started Small
f for fake
Fantasy Mission Force
female trouble
fire sale
Five Easy Pieces
freebie & the bean
Freebie and the Bean
Gates of Heaven
Get Carter
Grease
Halloween
harlan county
Harold & Maude
harold and maude
harry and tonto
heart of glass
Hearts & Minds
hearts of the west
High Plains Drifter
In the Realm of the Senses
Invincible Armour
Jaws
Jeanne Dielman
Jonah, Who Will Be 25 In The Year 2000
Junior Bonner
kasper hauser
Kentucky Fried Movie
Killer of Sheep
killing of a chinese bookie
Klute
La Maman et La Putain
Lancelot Du Lac
Last House on the Left
last of the red hot lovers
last picture show
Last Tango In Paris
Lenny
Letter To Jane
Life of Brian
Little Big Man
little murders
Love and Death
lucifer rising
Lupin III: The Mystery of Mamo
M*A*S*H
Mad Max
Magnificent Butcher
Manhattan
Marathon Man
Master Of The Flying Guillotine
Master of the Flying Guillotine v. One Armed Boxer
McCabe & Mrs Miller
McCabe & Mrs. Miller
Mean Streets
Mikey & Nicky
Millhouse
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Monty Python's Life of Brian
Nashville
National Lampoon's Animal House
Network
New York, New York
Night Moves
Night of the Lepus
O Lucky Man!
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
Over the Edge
Papillon
Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid
Patton
Performance
Phantasm
Phantom of the Paradise
Picnic at Hanging Rock
Play It Again Sam
Pumping Iron
quadrophenia
rafferty & the gold dust twins
Real Life
Richard Pryor: Live in Concert
Rock 'n' Roll High School
Saint Jack
Shaft
Silent Movie
Sleeper
Small Change
Smile
Smokey & The Bandit
Smokey and the Bandit
Solaris
Sounder
spirit of the beehive
Stalker
STAR WARS
Straw Dogs
Stroszek
Susperia
sweet movie
Sweet Sweetback's Badassssss Song
Taxi Driver
Texas Chainsaw Massacre
That Obscure Object of Desire
the act of seeing with one's own eyes
The Adventures of Picasso
The Ballad of Cable Hogue
The Brood
The Chant Of Jimmy Blacksmith
The China Syndrome
The Concert for Bangladesh
The Conformist
The Conversation
The Deer Hunter
The Devil Probably
The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie
The Exorcist
The French Connection
The Fury
The Getaway
The Go-Between
The Godfather
The Godfather Part II
The Godfather: Part II
The Grande Bouffe
The Green Room
The Harder They Come
The Heartbreak Kid
The Holy Grail
The Hospital
the hot rock
the in-laws
The Iron Cross
The Jerk
The Last Detail
The Last Picture Show
The Last Waltz
The Long Goodbye
The Lord of the Rings
The Man Who Fell to Earth
The Man Who Would Be King
The Mirror
The Mouth Agape
The Muppet Movie
The Offence
The Omen
The Outlaw Josey Wales
the out-of-towners
The Red Circle
The Rocky Horror Picture Show
The Sentinel
The Shout
The Sorrow and the Pity
the spirit of the beehive
the sting
The Story of Adele H.
The Sugarland Express
the sunshine boys
the tenant
The Texas Chain Saw Massacre
The Three Musketeers
The Twelve Chairs
The War At Home
The Warriors
The Wicker Man
The Wizards
The Woman With Red Boots
Theatre of Blood
They Might Be Giants
three days of the condor
Thunderbolt & Lightfoot
THX 1138
tout va bien
Two English Girls
Two-Lane Blacktop
Ulzana's Raid
Up in Smoke
valentin de las sierras
Vanishing Point
Walkabout
Wattstax
weekend
What's Up Doc?
Who Is Harry Kellerman And Why Is He Saying Those Terrible Things About Me?
Willard
Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory
Wise Blood
Woodstock
Woodstock: 3 Days of Peace & Music
Xala
Young Frankenstein

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Saturday, 30 July 2005 22:37 (eighteen years ago) link

The Ruling Class (1972)

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 1 August 2005 04:52 (eighteen years ago) link

El Topo
The Honeymoon Killers
Bananas
Carnal Knowledge
The Canterbury Tales
The Devils
Serpico
The Parallax View
Arabian Nights
The Taking of Pelham One Two Three
Shampoo
Shivers
Rollerball
All the President's Men
Rocky
High Anxiety
The Rutles
Midnight Express

Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 1 August 2005 05:28 (eighteen years ago) link

For those who are interested in checking out "all of Fassbinder" from the '70s -- the iMdB lists *33* titles...

Dritte Generation, Die (1979)
... aka The Third Generation
Ehe der Maria Braun, Die (1979)
... aka The Marriage of Maria Braun (USA)
In einem Jahr mit 13 Monden (1978)
... aka In a Year of 13 Moons
Despair (1978)
Deutschland im Herbst (1978)
... aka Germany in Autumn
Bolwieser (1977) (TV)
... aka The Stationmaster's Wife
Frauen in New York (1977) (TV)
... aka Women in New York
Chinesisches Roulette (1976)
... aka Chinese Roulette (USA)
Satansbraten (1976)
... aka Satan's Brew (USA)
Ich will doch nur, daß ihr mich liebt (1976) (TV)
... aka I Only Want You to Love Me
Angst vor der Angst (1975) (TV)
... aka Fear of Fear (USA)
Mutter Küsters Fahrt zum Himmel (1975)
... aka Mother Küsters Goes to Heaven (USA)
... aka Mother Kuster's Trip to Heaven (UK)
Faustrecht der Freiheit (1975)
... aka Fox and His Friends (USA)
... aka Fist-Fight of Freedom (International: English title: incorrect title)
... aka Fist-Right of Freedom (International: English title)
... aka Fox (UK)
Wie ein Vogel auf dem Draht (1975) (TV)
... aka Like a Bird on a Wire
Effi Briest (1974)
... aka Effi Briest (USA)
... aka Fontane Effi Briest
Martha (1974) (TV)
Angst essen Seele auf (1974)
... aka Ali: Fear Eats the Soul (USA)
... aka Fear Eats the Soul
Nora Helmer (1974) (TV)
... aka Nora Helmer (USA)
Welt am Draht (1973) (TV)
... aka World on Wires
... aka World on a Wire
Wildwechsel (1973) (TV)
... aka Jail Bait (USA)
... aka Wild Game (UK)
Bremer Freiheit (1972) (TV)
... aka Bremen Coffee
... aka Bremen Freedom
"Acht Stunden sind kein Tag" (1972) (mini) TV Series
... aka Eight Hours Are Not a Day
Bitteren Tränen der Petra von Kant, Die (1972)
... aka The Bitter Tears of Petra von Kant (USA)
Händler der vier Jahreszeiten, Der (1972)
... aka The Merchant of Four Seasons
Warnung vor einer heiligen Nutte (1971)
... aka Beware of a Holy Whore (USA)
Whity (1971)
Pioniere in Ingolstadt (1971) (TV)
... aka Pioneers in Ingolstadt
... aka Recruits in Ingolstadt
Rio das Mortes (1971) (TV)
Niklashauser Fart, Die (1970) (TV)
... aka The Niklashausen Journey
Amerikanische Soldat, Der (1970)
... aka The American Soldier (USA)
Warum läuft Herr R. Amok? (1970)
... aka Why Does Herr R. Run Amok?
Kaffeehaus, Das (1970) (TV)
... aka The Coffeehouse
Götter der Pest (1970)
... aka Gods of the Plague (USA)


I've seen about 25 of those and the only one that sucks is "Satan's Brew" (farce was not his forte). I'd put 4 or 5 of them in a Seventies Top 20.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 August 2005 13:39 (eighteen years ago) link

are the ones marked (tv) even votable? i would give welt am draht my #1 vote, but its not a film, its a miniseries

fe zaffe (fezaffe), Monday, 1 August 2005 13:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Two more noms straight from my ballot:

Murmur of The Heart
Prime Cut

Marxism Goes Better With Coke (Charles McCain), Monday, 1 August 2005 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link

'76 version is The Bad News Bears, just so's it's not counted twice or whatevs...

My shortlist:

The Godfather
Star Wars
Jaws
The War at Home
The Bad News Bears
The Godfather Part II
Apocalypse Now
Taxi Driver
Mean Streets
The Sorrow and the Pity
Manhattan
Annie Hall
Saturday Night Fever
Blazing Saddles
National Lampoon's Animal House
The Harder They Come
Breaking Away
The China Syndrome
Dog Day Afternoon

And then it's a toss-up (based mostly on my poor memory):

The Warriors
Norma Rae
Walkabout
McCabe and Mrs. Miller
Chinatown
Grease
Close Encounters of the Third Kind
The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie
The Conversation
Carrie
Real Life
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 16:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Kings of the Road
The Passenger

nickn (nickn), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 18:05 (eighteen years ago) link

6 ballots received so far, very good people. I'll try and compile a list of all films mentioned every week, leading up to the deadline of AUGUST 22ND

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 01:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I've seen about 25 of those and the only one that sucks is "Satan's Brew"

Ha ha, that was my favorite of his as well as being the source of my login name.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 01:21 (eighteen years ago) link

bump

Still at 6 ballots

18 more days of voting left!!!!

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 4 August 2005 16:37 (eighteen years ago) link

bmp

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 7 August 2005 14:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Ah, thanks for reminder.

Truckdrivin' Buddha (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 7 August 2005 14:42 (eighteen years ago) link

just sent mine in

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 7 August 2005 15:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Shit, I can't believe the list of 70s movies I haven't seen yet. I need to get with the program. I shouldn't even be allowed to vote, but I will.

Truckdrivin' Buddha (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 7 August 2005 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link

My ballot would include a whopping five titles.

Leeeeeeee (Leee), Sunday, 7 August 2005 17:51 (eighteen years ago) link

7 ballots in. thanks j blount.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 7 August 2005 18:12 (eighteen years ago) link

just sent mine too

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Sunday, 7 August 2005 20:35 (eighteen years ago) link

could someone who hasn't voted and isn't sure what they voting for bump up chinatown a couple of spots wherever they got it cuz somehow i FORGOT CHINATOWN OMG LOL

j(ake) blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 7 August 2005 21:01 (eighteen years ago) link

forget it blount.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 7 August 2005 21:02 (eighteen years ago) link

dont worry, i have it at the #3 position

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Sunday, 7 August 2005 21:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, it's on mine, too. In the bottom 10, but still.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 7 August 2005 23:59 (eighteen years ago) link

I have three Jack Nicholson movies on my list! Maybe I shouldn't be embarrassed about that.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 00:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I will vote at some point soon, but I'm hoping to manage to get around to watching The Conformist before I do. Pretty sure that once I see it I'll like it enough to put it on the list, but I haven't got around to it for 3 years...

emil.y (emil.y), Monday, 8 August 2005 10:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Just trawling through IMDB for some thoughts. I don't know about "best", but some of my favourites here are Bugsy Malone (which I think I must have seen about 20 times) and The Big Bus.

"They're breaking wind at 90!"

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Monday, 8 August 2005 11:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Also Slapshot.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Monday, 8 August 2005 11:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Excellent, up to 10 ballots received.

The voting period is half over, you have 2 weeks remaining to case your ballots.

I am still doing a drawing for a Amazon gift certificate for all ballots received.

Results are interesting so far.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:52 (eighteen years ago) link

case = cast

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:52 (eighteen years ago) link

bump, ballot status is the same.

I'm still working on mine, I'd like to watch a few more films that I feel like I should see.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:44 (eighteen years ago) link

I'll figure out some kind of order and send my vote in soon, but for now, here's for everyone's discussion:

The Conformist
Annie Hall
The Third Generation
End of the Road
Dead Pigeon on Beethoven Street
Lucifer Rising
Dawn of the Dead
The Harder They Come
Tout Va Bien
The Act of Seeing With One's Own Eyes
Ganja and Hess
Thriller: A Cruel Picture
The Killing of a Chinese Bookie
Razor 2: The Snare
Under the Flag of the Rising Sun
Sisters
11 x 14
The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie
Female Convict Scorpion: Jailhouse 41
It's Alive


Anthony (Anthony F), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 11:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Shit, I didn't realize the voting was on, I thought this thread was just for suggestions. Maybe you should start a new thread for folks who're as dumb as me.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Just sent in my ballot, and i would like to shout-out the following films in the hopes that future ballot-senders will remember them when they vote('cause I forgot a couple, and the others are cool):

Murmur of The Heart
Prime Cut
California Spilt
Who Is Harry Kellerman And Why Is He Saying Those Terrible Things About Me?
Smile
Jonah, Who Will Be 25 In The Year 2000
Night Moves
The Heartbreak Kid
Little Murders
Blue Collar
GATES OF HEAVEN
Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia

Marxism Goes Better With Coke (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:22 (eighteen years ago) link

1. The Godfather I & II
2. Nashville
3. Taxi Driver
4. Five Easy Pieces
5. The Conversation
6. Goin' Down the Road
7. Chinatown
8. Jaws
9. The Candidate
10. Carrie
11. American Graffiti
12. Mean Streets
13. California Split
14. Straight Time
15. McCabe & Mrs. Miller
16. All the President's Men
17. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
18. Invasion of the Body Snatchers
19. North Dallas Forty
20. The Heartbreak Kid

I know my list is ultra-conventional, but I think most of these films are famous for good reason. I've counted the two Godfathers together, as Sight and Sound did in their last poll--there are arguments against doing so, but it makes sense to me. I'll get this e-mailed...

Phil Dellio (j.j. hunsecker), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Oops--forgot Frederick Wiseman's Welfare. Put that at #7 and drop everything down. Goodbye, Charles Grodin.

Phil Dellio (j.j. hunsecker), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Worse than that, goodbye Jeannie Berlin :(

Marxism Goes Better With Coke (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:41 (eighteen years ago) link

And goodbye, pecan pie.

Phil Dellio (j.j. hunsecker), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Phil, I emailed you back. We're actually counting the Godfather's separate for no reason other than I've received a ton of ballots already with them separate.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 21:35 (eighteen years ago) link

and I don't want to ask a dozen people to re-list and re-submit.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 21:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Hey, Jeff, I just realized that The Sorrow and the Pity is, according to IMDB, a '60s film (1969). Is there any chance I could swap in Scorsese's "American Boy" for the same points?

It's actually one of his best films.

Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 11 August 2005 13:52 (eighteen years ago) link

And to remind everybody, there's only 11 days left to vote. You big procrastinators.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 11 August 2005 13:54 (eighteen years ago) link

>We're actually counting the Godfather's separate for no reason other than I've received a ton of ballots already with them separate.<

Well that's good, since Brando does what he can to wreck the first one.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 August 2005 14:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Come again? Are you sure you're not thinking of The Freshman, or maybe some SNL or SCTV parody Brando participated in? I'll concede that the The Godfather's greatest performance is given by Pacino, and that any awards that were given out should have gone to him, and I'll even agree that the gallery of character actors that populate the film--Richard Castellano, John Marley, Sterling Hayden, Alex Rocco--might be more indelible than any one leading performance, but Brando's an integral part of the first film anyway. Saying he actively wrecks the film makes as much sense to me as saying that Citizen Kane is hurt by Welles's poor direction.

Phil Dellio (j.j. hunsecker), Thursday, 11 August 2005 17:42 (eighteen years ago) link

He's a joke except when he's very still, or clowning with the grandkid. When he shakes Al Martino and tells him to ACT LIKE A MAN, just bad hamming. Same when hearing of Sonny's death -- slump shoulders, furrow brow...

I prefer him in The Freshman, and Harry Belafonte in Uptown Saturday Night.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 August 2005 17:46 (eighteen years ago) link

If you can track down a version of The Godfather Saga with all of Coppola's deleted footage, you'll find an alternate take of the scene where Brando learns of Sonny's death: he high-fives Duvall, says "Finally, that hothead bastard's out of the way," and then the two of them dance a celebratory Tarantella together. So I sort of see where you're coming from.

Phil Dellio (j.j. hunsecker), Thursday, 11 August 2005 19:51 (eighteen years ago) link

I see you're coming down Snotnose Bullshit Boulevard.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 August 2005 20:07 (eighteen years ago) link

films that are on my ballot but havent been mentioned yet:

Fist of Fury (1972)
Jeremiah Johnson (1972)
Juggernaut (1974)
Lone Wolf and Cub: Baby Cart at the River Styx (1972)
Mr. Majestyk (1974)
New One-Armed Swordsman (1971)
Turkish Delight (1973)

fe zaffe (fezaffe), Thursday, 11 August 2005 20:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Uh, "Dr. Morbius"--if you want to dismiss Brando in The Godfather with such sweeping authority ("He's a joke"?), you maybe shouldn't react so petulantly if someone wants to suggest that such a dismissal is absurd. Did you really think that no one would strongly disagree with you?

Phil Dellio (j.j. hunsecker), Thursday, 11 August 2005 21:09 (eighteen years ago) link

My favorite deleted scene in The Godfather Saga is where they show those guys actually sneaking the horse's head into the mansion.

Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 11 August 2005 22:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, but no way that should have made the final cut. It ruins the punchline.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 11 August 2005 22:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Cause the scene builds like, "Blood? What is this blood? Did they cut his legs off or something?" And then you find out it's so much better than that.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 11 August 2005 22:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Pete, yes, I can do that. I'm away from my home computer right now, but if you can emailed me again to remind me, that would be great. Thanks.

Yes, vote early, vote often.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 12 August 2005 21:21 (eighteen years ago) link

I made that up, Paunchy Stratego, sorry.

Like the deleted scene after the door closes on Kay at the end of the movie, which shows her throwing a glass at the door, shattering it, and screaming, "Noooooooooooo!" It ends with a freeze frame of her face with her mouth open, and the credits roll over that.

Pete Scholtes, Friday, 12 August 2005 23:44 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.gonemovies.com/WWW/TopFilms/Godfather/kay1.jpg NooooooOOOO!

richardk (Richard K), Friday, 12 August 2005 23:59 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.outchy.com/images/vader_02.jpg NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

richardk (Richard K), Saturday, 13 August 2005 00:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Good job folks, 18 ballots received.

9 MORE DAYS LEFT TO VOTE

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Saturday, 13 August 2005 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link

bump, hooray new answers!

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Saturday, 13 August 2005 21:27 (eighteen years ago) link

1) Dawn of the Dead
2) Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid
3) Mean Streets
4) Taxi Driver
5) Two-Lane Blacktop
6) Lancelot Du Lac
7) Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia
8) Stalker
9) Jaws
10) The Long Goodbye
11) Apocalypse Now
12) Get Carter
13) Deep Red
14) High Plains Drifter
15) M*A*S*H
16) Young Frankenstein
17) Straw Dogs
18) The Getaway
19) The Ballad of Cable Hogue
20) The Last Detail

gear (gear), Saturday, 13 August 2005 21:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Like blood much, Gear? Then you'll love Eric Rohmer!

'mazing how one person's opinion is indicted for 'sweeping authority' when it's phrased like 5000 others. Ah, the $ of challenging Conventional Wisdom.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 14 August 2005 13:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Jeff, can I amend my ballot to include a few (one?) omission?

Leeeeeeee (Leee), Sunday, 14 August 2005 17:59 (eighteen years ago) link

email it to me

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 14 August 2005 18:15 (eighteen years ago) link

1)The Getaway
2) The Godfather II
3) The President's Analyst
4) Nashville
5) Dog Day Afternoon
6) Bring Me The Head of Alfredo Garcia
7) Love On The Run
8) The Harder They Come
9) Love and Death
10) Blazing Saddles
12) Cross of Iron
13) Manhattan
14) Celine and Julie Go Boating
15) Sweet Sweetback's Badassssss Song
16) Stalker
17) Up in Smoke
18) Phantasm
19) Junior Bonner
20) The Hot Rock

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 14 August 2005 19:07 (eighteen years ago) link

will someone please explain the appeal of nashville to me?

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 14 August 2005 20:04 (eighteen years ago) link

explain the NOT appeal first, plz.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 14 August 2005 20:13 (eighteen years ago) link

it's boring and none of the characters are interesting?

it also seems kind of snide and condescending, like altman wanted to make a renoir-style ensemble film but completely lacked renoir's wit and generosity.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 14 August 2005 20:23 (eighteen years ago) link

blood! blood!!

gear (gear), Sunday, 14 August 2005 20:27 (eighteen years ago) link

i always thought it had enormous respect for all the characters. i mean, i guess if you don't find them and that sort of americana a strangely noble thing, then it'll do nothing for you.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 14 August 2005 20:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I'll vote in this before the 22nd, if only to get "The Optimists of Nine Elms" in there; a sorely overlooked film...

Tom May (Tom May), Sunday, 14 August 2005 22:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Dr. Morpheus: this war stops now. I'm not sure how it is that my last post reaches the level of an indictment. You ridiculed Brando in The Godfather, I defended him in a rather calm and measured way--conceding that he probably does get too much credit for his performance--you ridiculed him some more, I recounted with with what was intended as a humorous shrug of the shoulders as to how exactly you wanted him to play the scene where he learns of his son's death, at which point you really turned thoughtful: you called me a "snotnose." I have no problem at all with challenging conventional wisdom, but I've encountered this kind of back-and-forth before in another context: it seems to me you want to challenge conventional wisdom without having your unconventional wisdom questioned, and as soon as it is, you get very defensive.

Phil Dellio (j.j. hunsecker), Sunday, 14 August 2005 22:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, it all comes down to whether we think his perf is bad or not, right? I'll grant you that. I just think his playing was obvious, gimmicky (let me stuff tissues in my mouth to look a dozen years older -- or "grotesque in an absurd makeup," as Leslie Halliwell put it) and vastly improved upon by deNiro in GPII. Diane Keaton's hair also gets multiple laughs in theater showings, as does Tessio's line about the good food in the place where Michael whacks Sollozzo and the cop. And the Corleones are generally sentimentalized, compared with II.

>The President's Analyst

late '60s.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 15 August 2005 13:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Let me say that I swear--on the souls of my grandchildren--that I will not be the one to break the peace that we have made here today. We're at an impasse on Brando, but no argument that Keaton is often terrible in both films. I think it's only partly her fault--it's the usual woman-as-accessory role, very poorly written, like Sissy Spacek's in JFK. I've probably seen the first Godfather 15-20 times in a theatre, and I've never heard Tessio's line about the food get an unintentional laugh, though. The one line that always turns the theatre upside down is John Marley's Kraut-Mick rant.

Phil Dellio (j.j. hunsecker), Monday, 15 August 2005 16:57 (eighteen years ago) link

6 DAYS PEOPLE!!!

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 17:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I thought Part II had many, many worse lines. "If history has taught us anything... it's that you can kill anyone." Then again, maybe Michael turning into an idiot was a subtext there. I think both Keaton and Brando are great, by the way, but I've heard otherwise before. To me, this is the result of them both taking chances. I was utterly convinced when I was 12...

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 16 August 2005 21:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I received my 20th ballot today. The top 7 are very closely grouped, and it could really go any way. Keep them coming.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 23:17 (eighteen years ago) link

don't feel i've seen enough of the contenders to submit a ballot but just from browsing i think "Network" is being hosed...i have an unending amount of admiration for that movie; dear god, it's impeccable.

Jimmy_tango, Wednesday, 17 August 2005 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, no. It's a brilliant mess. My #4.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 00:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Just sent mine.

(Network is my #6.)

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 00:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Ok, not a mess, but not perfect. The way it switches between and mixes tones can leave you a bit dizzy. Some of the characters work better as ideas than performances, like the angry black Communist turned angry raving Capitalist once she gets a TV deal. Given that the movie tries to juggle so much, and so much of the responsibility for keeping it all in the air falls to the Diana character, Faye Dunaway's performance is one of the all-time stunners. Best actress of 1976, of course, and maybe one of the best damn performances of the decade. She's a complete and total looney, and completely and totally serious about being so. She's so sincere about being histrionic. She's funny and dangerous and amazing. And not everyone will agree with me on this, but the scene with Ned Beatty is one of my favorite in the movie. It's so broad, so over the top that it becomes something more than that. And he, too, is completely, totally serious about what he is saying, which is given extra weight because it makes perfect sense.

Yeah, this is one of my favorite movies.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 00:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Long before we had a word for "globalizaation," Network gave us "the philosophy of Nathan Jensen." And long before we had a disdain for TV news, Mr. Chayefsky saw what was coming. The movie is great speculative fiction, really.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 00:17 (eighteen years ago) link

So, what I'm saying is, watch it again, and think of it as you vote. Thank you and goodnight.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 00:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Network was so ahead of its time that I never even think of it as a '70s movie. It seems more '80s to me.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 00:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Sorry, Arthur Jensen. Who the fuck's Nathan Jensen?

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 00:22 (eighteen years ago) link

^taking shots in the first post and then *completely* making my point in the next few...Faye Dunaway is really, profoundly incredible and i'd even defend the choppiness as purposeful in light of the whole idea of a 30-minute network news show w/ its canned 1m30s stories, etc.

The speculative fiction line i totally agree w/ also, though it's brilliant (to me) b/c it never verges on impossibility or the territory that sci-fi works with...honestly, i am again and again hard-pressed to come up with a smarter screenplay ever written (hyperbole, but you get the idea).

Jimmy_tango, Wednesday, 17 August 2005 01:43 (eighteen years ago) link

You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, Mr. Beale, and I won't have it. Is that clear? You think you've merely stopped a business deal? That is not the case. The Arabs have taken billions of dollars out of this country, and now they must put it back. It is ebb and flow, tidal gravity. It is ecological balance. You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples. There are no nations; there are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no third worlds. There is no West. There is only one holistic system of systems; one vast, interwoven, interacting, multivaried, multinational dominion of dollars. It is the international system of currency which determines the vitality of life on this planet. THAT is the natural order of things today. THAT is the atomic and subatomic and galactic structure of things today. And YOU have meddled with the primal forces of nature. And YOU WILL ATONE. Am I getting through to you, Mr. Beale? You get up on your little 21-inch screen and howl about America, and democracy. There is no America; there is no democracy. There is only IBM, and ITT, and AT&T, and DuPont, Dow, Union Carbide, and Exxon. Those are the nations of the world today. What do you think the Russians talk about in their councils of state? Karl Marx? They get out their linear programming charts, statistical decision theories, minimax solutions, and compute the price-cost probabilities of their transactions, just like we do. The world is a business, Mr. Beale; it has been since man crawled out of the slime. Our children will live, Mr. Beale, to see that perfect world in which there's no war or famine, oppression or brutality - one vast and ecumenical holding company, for whom all men will work to serve a common profit, in which all men will hold a share of stock - all necessities provided, all anxieties tranquilized, all boredom amused.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 02:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Just wanted to clarify something Pete Scholtes responded to a few posts up: when I said that John Marley's Kraut-Mick tirade in The Godfather gets a huge response every time I see the film with an audience, I meant that in a good way--I think it's one of the funniest movie speeches ever. My original post may have implied that the scene gets unintentional laughs, which is not what I meant.

Phil Dellio (j.j. hunsecker), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 03:55 (eighteen years ago) link

My enthusiasm for "Network" -- I loved it at 15 -- is tempered somewhat by its Chayefskian speechifying, and that it's truly a REACTIONARY piece of social commentary (ie, ppl are much stupider than when they got their news from Ed Murrow & CBS in the '50s) for all its anti-corporatism beloved by liberals. (It was Paddy C who quickly damned Vanessa Redgrave on-camera at the Oscars for calling those who wanted her work boycotted "Zionist hoodlums.") A great film? No way (the Beatrice Straight wronged-wife speech alone should disqualify it).

Yes, all the women in the first "Godfather" -- Kay, Mama, the topless Sicilian bride -- are pretty much stick figures, which is one reason men love the movie so much.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 12:32 (eighteen years ago) link

>I never even think of it as a '70s movie. It seems more '80s to me.<

Because ppl were just so damn shallow til Reagan was elected?

>long before we had a disdain for TV news<

Sorry, TV news was held in contempt by many literate folk loooong before Network.

Jonathan Rosenbaum hits about the right median, I think, esp re its misogyny:


Good campy fun from the combined talents of Paddy Chayefsky and Sidney Lumet; Chayefsky was apparently serious about much of this shrill, self-important 1976 satire about television, interlaced with bile about radicals and pushy career women, and so were some critics at the time.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 12:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Just when I thought I was out, Dr. Morbius pulls me back in...I think the Sicilian bride in The Godfather is quite justifiably presented as a paragon of beauty, virtue, innocence, etc., like Claudia Cardinale in 8-1/2, the flower-girl in City Lights, or Cybill Shepherd in Taxi Driver. It's an archetype as old as the movies, used various ways--in the case of The Godfather, it's like she's standing in for the old-world purity of the Don long before he was corrupted, a contrast to the rot from which Michael's in hiding. (I know that's a simplification, as we simultaneously learn that vendettas have been part of Sicilian life forever.) That Michael's mother is kept in the background also seems right according to the film's internal logic; whatever one thinks about the code of conduct that guides the film's principals, obviously one of the key rules is that family and Family are supposed to be kept separate. I have a specific problem with the awkwardness of some of Keaton's lines (and I was too harsh earlier; much of the time, she's fine), but I don't think it's fair to generalize that one reason men love The Godfather is because the women are stick figures. I'm someone who loves the film who wishes Keaton's role were more, not less complex.

Phil Dellio (j.j. hunsecker), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost I find Jonathan Rosenbaum shrill and self-important.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:58 (eighteen years ago) link

a prominent if idiosyncratic film review guide lists these as it's top-rated (four star) films in the 1970s:

1970
M*A*S*H
Tristana
Walkabout

1971
Death in Venice
The Last Picture Show

1972
Aguirre, Wrath of God
Cabaret
Deliverance
The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie
The Godfather
Solaris
Viskningar och Rop

1973
Badlands
Day for Night
Don’t Look Now
Mean Streets

1974
Chinatown
The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser
The Godfather Part II
Lacombe, Lucien

1975
One Flew over the Cuckoo’s Nest
Picnic at Hanging Rock

1976
All the President’s Men
Network
Taxi Driver

1977
Annie Hall
Star Wars

1978
The Chant of Jimmie Blacksmith
Days of Heaven
The Driver
The Marriage of Maria Braun

1979
Alien
Being There
Manhattan
The Tin Drum

>myjobsworth, Wednesday, 17 August 2005 15:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Kay is the conscience of The Godfather movies, but she's so easily dismissed by viewers caught up in Corleone logic. I love the Mad Magazine satire where Michael takes a contract out on her.

Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 17 August 2005 15:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, but she's a conscience more than a character. I remember the MAD spoofs of I & II very well!

Quite an idiosyncratic list there -- the only Altman being MASH? (which is a dumb football comedy for most of its last third)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 15:20 (eighteen years ago) link

the Beatrice Straight wronged-wife speech alone should disqualify it

i don't want to privilege the CW too much, but when you're contrarian about the most C of the CW and without any attendant explanatory content, you appear to disrespect criticism and audience.

I think Rosenbaum is usually otm (though I'm not quite in the same place as him politically or aesthetically), and I don't completely discount the criticisms of Network - an adolescent favorite that I never regarded as taking itself more seriously than it does on its face (hello? "sybil the soothsayer"?) - but those who are quick to criticize its misogyny I think are missing that 1) Faye Dunaway's gender is not the second or even the third most important element of her character (but what, they should add another man to the cast? and write out the love interest?), and 2) the movie spends a fair amount of time viewing her through the eyes of an older man with whom it does not entirely sympathize

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 15:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Good discussion, now more ballots.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I find Jonathan Rosenbaum shrill and self-important.

he's the most annoying film critic in america. i can't think of anyone else who's so utterly humorless about the movies he doesn't like.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 20:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I think Morbius has the fundamental problem with Kay exactly right: she's a symbolic conscience rather than a fully developed character. Once Michael takes over, her role is reduced to popping up now and again to speechify and pass judgement on Michael, and most of the time she's telling us stuff we've already figured out for ourselves. The Godfathers are works of great subtlety in a thousand different ways, but Kay is the one character who always seems out of place. And even if that apartness is intentional, and Coppola wants her there to guide us so that we share in her revulsion at Michael's acts, I don't think it was necessary. By way of contrast, I'd point to the more shaded reaction of Lorraine Bracco's character in GoodFellas to all that she sees around her: at times appalled and afraid, but also revelling in the luxury that her husband's profession provides for her, and, when she witnesses the pistol-whipping of her ex-boyfriend, even turned on. Keaton is such a hectoring presence, we never get any indication of a life lived (as you even do with Michael's mother, I'd say, when she sings the old Italian song at Connie's wedding).

Phil Dellio (j.j. hunsecker), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 20:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Well gabb, given that the only 'career woman' in view is a beeyatch, and her professional mania is so linked to her sexuality that she screams Nielsen numbers during sex, I'd say the only alternative presented is the Suffering Little Woman demanding allegiance. Madonna vs Whore about as clear as it gets.

Basically, Kay is just The Girl. All the women get more spine in II (FFC even turns 'his' sister into a Borgia by III), but Molly Haskell remarked on the movie's chavinist appeal at the time.

Critics who are offended by films that are mistaken for good / great impress me. (Another disser of The Godfather: Stanley Kauffmann.)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 20:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Stanley Kauffmann is one of the greatest film critics ever, but he basically gave II the same dismissal as the original (just marginally less so), so I'm not sure if he's the best reference if you're trying to elevate the one over the over. (And he was hardly offended by either--one of Kauffmann's greatest strengths as a critic is that he rarely, if ever, hyperbolizes.) I'd also argue that Kay is even less interesting in the second film than the first: the more spine she gets, the more moralistic, and that's the problem.

Phil Dellio (j.j. hunsecker), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 21:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Critics who recognize what is evil in great films (and vice versa) impress me more. David Thomson covers all of this very well, while still recognizing the films' mastery. I could quote almost anything he's written about the Godfathers, but this is handy:

"When The Godfather measured its grand finale of murder against the liturgy of baptism, Coppola seemed mesmerized by the trick, and its nihilism. A Bunuel, by contrast, might have made that sequence ironic and hilarious. But Coppola is not long on those qualities and he could not extricate himself from the engineering of scenes. The identiication with Michael was complete and stricken."

Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 18 August 2005 00:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I wonder if Thomson believes Coppola's statement that he made "II" because he "wanted to punish Michael." (and cuz he got paid a lot more)

The baptism/slaughter sequence is sledgehammer-obvious, but brilliantly edited. If you're looking for irony (tho not Bunuelian), that's where "Goodfellas" comes in.

Kauffmann was particularly dismissive of Brando tho ("pudding in his cheeks... moves stiffly... hailed as great acting").

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Also re Network, Holden is unmistakably the audience-identification figure. Finch is too nuts and everyone else is repellent.

Anyway, I don't think of multi-Oscared movies like these when I think of '70s cinema (Godfather II aside).

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 August 2005 14:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I think you're being a little selective when quoting from Kauffmann. It's true, he didn't think much of Brando, but he did say this about the scene with Duvall you dismissed: "A few moments ring true. When [Brando] hears of the death of his son, an ache starts deep in him and works to the surface through the fissures in the old man's emotional armor." In the same review, he also brushed aside the performances of Pacino ("rattles around in a part too demanding for him") and Caan ("adequate"). Here are a few other '70s films he had little use for: Mean Streets, McCabe & Mrs. Miller, The Long Goodbye, and Jaws; I don't have Before My Eyes on hand to check, but if I'm remembering correctly, I don't think he thought much of Taxi Driver, either. The point is, Kauffmann is, and remains, a great, great critic (I tried, unsuccessfully, to contact him for an interview this summer) because he's a great writer, and because whatever his appraisal of a film, I never doubt for a second that he's laying out, as honestly as possible, his reaction to that film--i.e., he never jumps on bandwagons, like hacks, but neither does he ever slip into the role of full-time gadfly, shouting "black" because every other critic says "white." I don't revere him because I think his judgement's infallible, and quite honestly, I think he missed the boat with The Godfather.

Phil Dellio (j.j. hunsecker), Thursday, 18 August 2005 16:00 (eighteen years ago) link

My ballot's on its way.

o. nate (onate), Thursday, 18 August 2005 16:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Howdy partners, only THREE MORE DAYS left to vote. I've received about 25 ballots, I think. I believe the top film will be one that you think would be in the top 10, but not the winner. The reveal should be fun.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 19 August 2005 13:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I'd like to double the number of ballots I've received so far. I know you can do it ILX. Tell your friends, your relatives, anybody to vote. C'mon. Do it. Harder.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 19 August 2005 13:25 (eighteen years ago) link

1. Ali: Fear Eats the Soul
2. Dog Day Afternoon
3. Taxi Driver
4. The Conversation
5. Annie Hall
6. Dawn of the Dead
7. F for Fake
8. Jaws
9. Patton
10. Cabaret
11. Apocalypse Now
12. Carrie
13. The Godfather (Part I)
14. The Deer Hunter
15. Young Frankenstein
16. Chinatown
17. Aguirre the Wrath of God
18. Barry Lyndon
19. Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory
20. A Clockwork Orange

älänbänänä (alanbanana), Saturday, 20 August 2005 01:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Just a reminder, the deadline for ballots is at 12:00pm, Noon, Central Standard Time on Monday. I will not be accepting any ballots after that.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Saturday, 20 August 2005 16:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Just submitted mine, which is:

1. The Creeping Flesh (dir. Freddie Francis, 1973)
2. The Optimists of Nine Elms (dir. Anthony Simmons, 1974)
3. Chinatown (dir. Roman Polanski, 1974)
4. House of Mortal Sin (dir. Pete Walker, 1975)
5. Radio On (dir. Christopher Petit, 1979)
6. The Shout (dir. Jerzy Skolimowski, 1978)
7. The Wicker Man (dir. Robin Hardy, 1973)
8. Breaking Away (dir. Peter Yates, 1979)
9. Death Line (dir. Gary Sherman, 1972)
10. Get Carter (dir. Mike Hodges, 1971)
11. Picnic at Hanging Rock (dir. Peter Weir, 1975)
12. O Lucky Man! (dir. Lindsay Anderson, 1973)
13. Eskimo Nell (dir. Martin Campbell, 1974)
14. Sweeney! (dir. David Wickes, 1976)
15. Jubilee (dir. Derek Jarman, 1977)
16. 10 Rillington Place (dir. Richard Fleischer, 1970)
17. Walkabout (dir. Nicolas Roeg, 1971)
18. House of Whipcord (dir. Pete Walker, 1974)
19. The Conversation (dir. Francis Ford Coppola, 1974)
20. Eraserhead (dir. David Lynch, 1977)

You will note something of an anglocentric bias (I am at the moment working on a dissertation on British cinema of the seventies), and an attempt to broaden the sort of films getting in. It's more of a favourite than necessarily a 'best' list, but certainly strongly felt. There are some very underrated films, awaiting rediscovery, in this decade... and plenty of emphasis in the twenty above upon corruption and collapse. The 'devil's decade', indeed. Something of an Indian Summer for British horror, I would argue... which very sadly petered out mid-way through the 1970s.

Tom May (Tom May), Sunday, 21 August 2005 13:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I sincerely hope "Star Wars" does not do well: it remains a sad marker for what happened to the mainstream in subsequent decades. Guinness was spot-on, frankly. I'm thinking there will be far more of worth in similarly massive hits such as "Jaws" and "American Graffiti", neither of which (bizarrely) I have seen.

"Network"... good film, certainly, but rather flawed. I mainly remember it for Peter Finch, who is marvellous; reminds me, I need to see "Sunday Bloody Sunday".

Tom May (Tom May), Sunday, 21 August 2005 13:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Good job folks, keep them coming, a little over a day left for voting.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 21 August 2005 14:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Also Tom, you by far have the most unique ballot submitted. Most of those films were only voted for by you.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 21 August 2005 15:07 (eighteen years ago) link

ALso, i'm gong back and forth how many films I want to do on the official reveal. 100 would be nice, but there are a lot of ties at the bottom of the poll. I thought counting points and total number of overall votes would keep that from happening. Wouldn't have that problem with 50.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 21 August 2005 15:11 (eighteen years ago) link

I always think that nothing should get in on the basis of only one vote.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 21 August 2005 15:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Number 89 is the highest one with just one vote right now. I just need more ballots!

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 21 August 2005 15:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Okay, since other people posted their votes here, I might as well do that too:

1. Andrei Tarkovsky: Stalker
2. Marco Ferreri: La Grande bouffe (aka The Grande Bouffe)
3. Woody Allen: Annie Hall
4. François Truffaut: L'Argent de poche (aka Pocket Money)
5. Sam Peckinpah: Cross of Iron
6. Emile de Antonio: Millhouse
7. Tage Danielsson: Picassos äventyr (aka The Adventures of Picasso)
8. Stanley Kubrick: A Clockwork Orange
9. Woody Allen: Manhattan
10. Roman Polanski: Le Locataire (aka The Tenant)
11. Robert Altman: MASH
12. Milos Forman: One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
13. Stanley Kubrick: Barry Lyndon
14. Roman Polanski: Chinatown
15. Steven Spielberg: 1941
16. Jean-Pierre Melville: Le Cercle rouge (aka The Red Circle)
17. Robert Benton: Kramer vs. Kramer
18. John Huston: The Man Who Would Be King
19. Terry Jones: Life of Brian
20. Francis Ford Coppola: Apocalypse Now


The seventies is a kinda difficult decade for me: having been born in 1979, I haven't really seen enough of the classics (especially those made outside the States) to give a comprehensive vote. Also, a lot of the classics, like Godfather, simply don't move me... Like Morbius said, the Godfathers are men's films, with lots of style and violence and honour and paternal/fraternal drama, but personally I find their world so removed from my own that there's simply nothing for me to root for. Admittedly, I did vote for The Red Circle, but that film is about pure style only, and it doesn't claim to be anything more. I also had lots of trouble deciding whether or not I should include Apocalypse Now, but in the end I thought that Brando's mumblings at the end don't ruin an otherwise good film.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 21 August 2005 15:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, I sent the vote via e-mail too, if that was unclear.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 21 August 2005 15:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, it felt a bit useless to vote for Millhouse or La Grande bouffe or Picassos äventyr because they probably won't get any other votes, but whatever.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 21 August 2005 15:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Here's mine. Anything but the top 5 or 6 could probably sub out for things that aren't on it, depending on the day. And I somewhat arbitrarily limited myself to one movie per director.

1. The Godfather Part II
2. Aguirre the Wrath of God
3. Taxi Driver
4. Eraserhead
5. McCabe & Mrs. Miller
6. Cabaret
7. Badlands
8. Hearts & Minds
9. Ali: Fear Eats the Soul
10. Annie Hall
11. Little Big Man
12. Star Wars
13. Walkabout
14. Monty Python and the Holy Grail
15. The Last Picture Show
16. In the Realm of the Senses
17. The Spirit of the Beehive
18. Alien
19. Close Encounters of the Third Kind
20. Over the Edge

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 21 August 2005 16:00 (eighteen years ago) link

JAYMC, I still haven't received your ballot!

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 21 August 2005 19:01 (eighteen years ago) link

I have received tons of ballots today though. Good job, this poll is going to be great.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 21 August 2005 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I will, Jeff. Maybe I will deliver it IN PERSON, haha.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 21 August 2005 19:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Some teasers:

4 films have received over 200 points
17 have received over 100 points
The most first place votes for any one film is 2
29 films have received first place votes

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 21 August 2005 19:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Joint list from me/RJG

(1) Annie Hall
(2) The Warriors
(3) Chinatown
(4) Harold & Maude
(5) All The President's Men
(6) The Conversation
(7) The French Connection
(8) Five Easy Pieces
(9) Capricorn One
(10) Save The Tiger
(11) The Sting
(12) Dog Day Afternoon
(13) The Godfather Part Two
(14) Willy Wonka And The Chocolate Factory
(15) Barry Lyndon
(16) Sleeper
(17) High Plains Drifter
(18) Time After Time
(19) The Man Who Fell To Earth
(20) M*A*S*H

Ally C (Ally C), Monday, 22 August 2005 11:09 (eighteen years ago) link

4 1/2 hours left to submit ballots

I've received 6 this morning, for a whopping 42 overall.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 22 August 2005 11:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Here's my list:

1. Amarcord
2. The Godfather
3. The Godfather Part II
4. Annie Hall
5. The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie
6. Cries and Whispers
7. Le Cercle Rouge
8. Play It Again Sam
9. That Obscure Object of Desire
10. Manhattan
11. Chinatown
12. The Conversation
13. Apocalypse Now
14. A Clockwork Orange
15. Taxi Driver
16. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia
17. Marathon Man
18. Being There
19. Straw Dogs
20. Monty Python and the Holy Grail

jedidiah (jedidiah), Monday, 22 August 2005 11:57 (eighteen years ago) link

I'd say it's pretty useless to vote for any foreign films, notwithstanding the tokenish-feeling votes for Fellini, Fassbinder, Herzog etc. That can't compete with all-English-lang ballots that include Capricorn One.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 August 2005 12:36 (eighteen years ago) link

bla. its useless to vote for foreign films that never had a uk/us dvd release, that much is true

fe7 (FE7), Monday, 22 August 2005 12:44 (eighteen years ago) link

THREE HOURS REMAINING

xpost Dr Morbius, you'd be surprised, several foreign films are doing extremely well.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 22 August 2005 13:01 (eighteen years ago) link


I'd predict the top 100 will lack any films 1) from Africa or 2) directed by a woman.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 August 2005 13:11 (eighteen years ago) link

...as does any top 100 published anywhere. It's not ILX's fault, it's the way of the world. (Which doesn't mean it's not a bad thing.)

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 22 August 2005 13:15 (eighteen years ago) link

>any top 100 published anywhere<

I somehow think there's a '70s film poll somewhere on Earth that included Seven Beauties, Harlan County USA, or any by Ousmane Sembene, Elaine May, or Margarethe von Trotta in the top 100 of the decade.

Since the '70s are considered an off-decade for Kurosawa, I can't see any Asian directors, or black Americans besides Van Peebles or maybe Gordon Parks, being mentioned either.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 August 2005 13:27 (eighteen years ago) link

We're so sorry for being too yobbish for your tastes! As much as I'd like to, not everyone has the chance to see these films... I don't own a DVD nor a TV set, so I rely on our local film archive for older films.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 22 August 2005 13:31 (eighteen years ago) link

>not everyone has the chance to see these films<

Then it doesn't make sense to vote. I'm not a huge fiction reader so I'd never partcipate in a "best novels of all time" poll.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 August 2005 13:37 (eighteen years ago) link

I think the idea of needing a working knowledge of Margarethe von Trotta to participate in a 70's poll on ILE is sort of unworkable.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 22 August 2005 13:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Sorry, next time I'll be sure to watch every movie ever made before casting a preference.

Ally C (Ally C), Monday, 22 August 2005 13:57 (eighteen years ago) link

weve had this debate before

fe7 (FE7), Monday, 22 August 2005 13:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Sadly, yes.

Ally C (Ally C), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:02 (eighteen years ago) link

You mean the debate in which Dr. Morbius declines to cast a ballot but hangs around anyway to deride the pointlessness of the exercise and be condescending about everyone else's ballots? Yes, we have. I think it's cute.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:04 (eighteen years ago) link

No, it's not pointless ... everyone gets to self-satisfactorily celebrate a bunch of FAMOUS American movies everyone has seen, and you all show you ghettoize foreign cinema the way you do foreign music.

Ally C/RJG, just one foreign-language film would be a jump in ambition. (no Towering Inferno?)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:25 (eighteen years ago) link

On that note, may I ask whomever does the 60s poll to return to the 30-film ballot? I could do a "Top 20" on just flicks from Europe and Asia.

Marxism Goes Better With Coke (Charles McCain), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:29 (eighteen years ago) link

morbius, I haven't noticed you, before

why such a fanny?

RJG (RJG), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:33 (eighteen years ago) link

morbius, if they wanted their films to be popular, maybe they should have made them in english then, huh, huh? didja ever think about that?

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:34 (eighteen years ago) link

i ll never get the 'its just not fair!! people arent supposed to be like this' line of arguing. xxxpost

fe7 (FE7), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:36 (eighteen years ago) link

AAAGH. I've missed the deadline. Can I send mine in now, or will it not get counted?

emil.y (emil.y), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Here's my ballot. I thought the films listed in this thread were the nominees so I probably left out some things I would have voted for otherwise.

1. A Clockwork Orange
2. The Rocky Horror Picture Show
3. Aguirre the Wrath of God
4. El Topo
5. Phantom of the Paradise
6. Shampoo
7. Weekend
8. Performance
9. Up in Smoke
10. Harold & Maude
11. Satan's Brew
12. Solaris
13. Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory
14. Beyond the Valley of the Dolls
15. The Brood
16. The Long Goodbye
17. Susperia
18. Killing of a Chinese Bookie
19. The Muppet Movie
20. Dawn of the Dead

walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Oops, I changed El Topo to the Holy Mountain.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, in retrospect I would have included Minnie and Moskowitz rather than Killing of a Chinese Bookie.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:53 (eighteen years ago) link

I understand Morbius' perspective. If I'd seen as much as he appears to have, I might feel the same way. Or maybe I'd still put Coppola at the top, who knows. (See all the critics who vote for The Godfather and Citizen Kane in Sight and Sound's poll.) I probably wouldn't be as snotty about it, but that's just me. I've come to think of him as an endearing presence on these threads, the hectoring crank quietly fuming in the corner and periodically letting you know he still thinks you're an idiot.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Fuck, I forgot Superfly.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 22 August 2005 15:03 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm really not convinced too many ppl here are idiots. I just wish you were less incurious about the breadth of an art form before you make retrospective lists. e.g., I find some of kranz's picks overrated or even dreadful, but at least he's seen a lot.

wk, which "Weekend"? cuz the Godard film is '67.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 August 2005 15:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Who's incurious? Not having seen things =/= not wanting to see them, it just means you haven't seen it yet. And not having something on a ballot also =/= not having seen it. It's possible to see an awful lot of movies and still think, e.g., that Star Wars deserves a place on a 1970s film poll. (You can make an equally good case that Star Wars is terrible; but then, you can also make a case that Bresson is terrible. I wouldn't agree with either of those positions, but I could respect people who did.) (And I left off the only 1970s Bresson I've seen -- Lancelot -- because I found it ponderous. Which at least is something you can't say about Star Wars. Or I suppose you could. But I wouldn't.)

Point being, you're making an awful lot of assumptions about people's range of curiosity and exposure based on what they put on a message-board film-poll ballot. While refusing, of course, to submit your own list for similar assessment (admiration or derision). I'd personally like to see your list, because there are probably things on it I'd like to see. Your mention of Sembene has already prompted me to add Xala to my Netflix queue. If you're actually enthusiastic about the art form rather than scoring some kind of imagined intellectual superiority points, you've got an audience here of people interested in movies who'd probably like to hear your recommendations. But that doesn't seem to be your aim. Being condescending about other people's taste and/or level of expertise is cheap and easy.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 22 August 2005 15:47 (eighteen years ago) link

*applause*

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 22 August 2005 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Silent Running
Soylent Green

jel -- (jel), Monday, 22 August 2005 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Then it doesn't make sense to vote.

ONCE AGAIN THIS IS NOT THE FUCKING "SIGHT AND SOUND" POLL. WE'RE JUST PEOPLE ON A MESSAGE BOARD WHO LIKE MOVIES AND WANT TO SEE WHAT OTHER PEOPLE'S FAVORITE MOVIES ARE, TOO.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 August 2005 15:52 (eighteen years ago) link


Gyp, I still don't think I'm being condescending. Since I started going to movies semi-regularly in the mid '70s, perhaps I'm just more protective of the sublime and innovative things that were done in that decade. And yes, I know ppl under 30 or 35 haven't had that much time to see older films, but it IS easier now than when Teenage Morbius set the alarm clock so he could watch "Dr Strangelove" or "Red Dust" at 2am.

And just for damage control, I voted.
(on any given day I could replace 8 or 10 of these 20)


(1) Chinatown (Polanski)
(2) The Mirror (Tarkovsky)
(3) Barry Lyndon (Kubrick)
(4) Aguirre, the Wrath of God (Herzog)
(5) Fox and His Friends (Fassbinder)
(6) The Magic Flute (Bergman)
(7) Nashville (Altman)
(8) Xala (Sembene)
(9) Ali: Fear Eats the Soul (Fassbinder)
(10) The Long Goodbye (Altman)
(11) Amarcord (Fellini)
(12) Tristana (Bunuel)
(13) The Godfather Part II (Coppola)
(14) Annie Hall (Allen)
(15) Female Trouble (Waters)
(16) Cabaret (Fosse)
(17) In a Year of 13 Moons (Fassbinder)
(18) Five Easy Pieces (Rafelson)
(19) Ulzana's Raid (Aldrich)
(20) Two-Lane Blacktop (Hellman)


And Paunchy, you need to be sitting on those hands. After you wash them.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 August 2005 16:07 (eighteen years ago) link

so ballots are in right? here was mine at the time, only switch #3 cuz 'gates of heaven' is apparently an 80s flick and omgwtf i forgot chinatown.

1. f for fake (welles)
2. the long goodbye (altman)
3. gates of heaven (morris)
4. news from home (akerman)
5. female trouble (waters)
6. aguirre: the wrath of god (herzog)
7. in a year of 13 moons (fassbinder)
8. texas chainsaw massacre (hooper)
9. that obscure object of desire (bunuel)
10. claire's knee (rohmer)
11. the last detail (ashby)
12. up! (meyer)
13. the devil, probably (bresson)
14. nashville (altman)
15. the conformist (bertolucci)
16. in the realm of the senses (oshima)
17. pink flamingos (waters)
18. dawn of the dead (romero)
19. shampoo (ashby)
20. animal house (landis)

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 22 August 2005 16:48 (eighteen years ago) link

And here's my list, while we're all showing our hand.

1. Last Tango In Paris
2. A Woman Under the Influence
3. Aguirre: The Wrath of God
4. Network
5. Manhattan
6. McCabe and Mrs. Miller
7. Cries and Whispers
8. Badlands
9. Day for Night
10. Jaws
11. The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie
12. Five Easy Pieces
13. The Last Detail
14. Alien
15. Patton
16. Annie Hall
17. The Godfather, part II
18. Taxi Driver
19. Mean Streets
20. Chinatown

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 22 August 2005 16:53 (eighteen years ago) link

wk, which "Weekend"? cuz the Godard film is '67.

Aw shit. Like I said, I took that big huge list posted upthread as the nominee list. Oops.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 22 August 2005 17:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I put Slapshot and Bedknobs and Broomsticks

The Original Jimmy Mod: Kind Warrior (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Monday, 22 August 2005 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Aguirre is going to do well. Morbius some of your objections are valid but they seem to assume that people are able to spend more time on this than is actually the case. I like your list though. I feel like I've seen a ton of Fassbinder films and yet I've seen none of the three you nominated.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 22 August 2005 17:06 (eighteen years ago) link

OK Dr. M, that's a nice list. I appreciate it. Don't agree with all of it, naturally. I'm not nearly the fan of Chinatown or Nashville that others are, although the former would at least make my top 30. As would Fox and His Friends and Amarcord, probably.

Come to think of it, why isn't Little Big Man on more of these lists? What's the matter with you people?!?

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 22 August 2005 17:08 (eighteen years ago) link

I dunno. I have only the vaguest memory of it. Saw it on TV -- kind of a Saturday afternoon matinee movie. I never thought much of it.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 22 August 2005 17:13 (eighteen years ago) link

As Arthur Penn said at a screening of Little Big Man, "Isn't it better than the remake, Dances with Wolves?"

I like the movie fine -- it probly works on me better than any other of AP's, including Bonnie & Clyde -- but there are sequences where the picaresque shtick works less well than others (the gay stay-at-home brave, Richard Mulligan as Custer). It's just not in serious contention for best 20 of the decade. Chief Dan George (in this and Josey W) is certainly one of the supporting actors of the '70s.

btw I spent maybe 15 minutes on my ballot. And am already rueing the absence of Maurice Pialat, "The Day of the Locust," etc.

haha, Bedknobs and Broomsticks is probably the first film I saw of all mentioned.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 August 2005 17:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Okay, I just got home, and at 6pm CST, I am no longer accepting any more ballots. I will accept all the ones that came in the afternoon though. If I didn't received it via email, it will not be counted. I'm not going by lists posted in this threads. I will finish tabulating the results now, expect the reveal to start in a few days, in a new thread. Thank you all.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:00 (eighteen years ago) link

yay jeff!

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Votes counted. It was closer, the top two are seperated by 1 vote.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 00:58 (eighteen years ago) link

When do we get to see the results?

walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 01:06 (eighteen years ago) link

This weekend at the earliest, all the votes are counted, i'm just gathering comments (feel free to send me some) and writing the html for each entry, finding pics. Shouldn't take too long, I could knock it out if a few hours if I don't stop, but I'll allow myself a week.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 01:59 (eighteen years ago) link

I promise it will be light years faster than the 80s poll.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 02:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh crap, I just remembered this and I was going to submit a ballot right now, thinking there was a midnight deadline. Oh well. I didn't even have a clue as to what my list would look like, so yeah, whatever.

Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 02:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Should "Performance" actually be included? I know it was released in the 1970s, but it was made in 1968 or 9.

Tom May (Tom May), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 11:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I didn't check any of the dates, I was just going on what you guys thought. Anyway, Performance didn't place in the top 100.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 11:20 (eighteen years ago) link

"Performance" was released in 1970. "Raging Bull" was 'made' (ie principal photography) in '79, so I don't see what that has to do with anything. A movie doesn't exist til someone sees it.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Comcast fucked me for two days, so a small delay. I'm still planning for a weekendish reveal though.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 26 August 2005 02:02 (eighteen years ago) link

OMG, I can't believe I forgot to include Greaser's Palace in my list. Of course, I would have been the only person to vote for it anyway.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Saturday, 27 August 2005 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Results are going well. Revel will start today or tomorrow.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Saturday, 27 August 2005 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link

You're expecting more joy and festivity than the results will actually get, I suspect.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 27 August 2005 16:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Probably so, I just don't want to drag this thing out.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Saturday, 27 August 2005 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link

(that was a gag about your typo)

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 27 August 2005 17:12 (eighteen years ago) link

oh! I'm very slow and hung over.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Saturday, 27 August 2005 17:16 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

What does an ILXor think of Joe? I watched this a couple of days ago -- it certainly wasn't fun, and by the end of it I thought it was a bad movie, but it's stuck with me pretty well, and I think maybe it's a decent film without any sympathetic characters.

Rock Hardy, Saturday, 5 January 2008 15:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Man I've wanted to see that movie for so long. I was under the impression that the characters weren't meant to be unsympathetic tho?

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 5 January 2008 15:35 (sixteen years ago) link

i.e. isn't it a "fuck these lousy hippies" rant?

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 5 January 2008 15:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Nobody's cast in a very good light. Even big-eyed baby Susan Sarandon is a fairly whiny weakling with her boyfriend.

Rock Hardy, Saturday, 5 January 2008 15:41 (sixteen years ago) link

twelve years pass...

My picks!.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 July 2020 10:10 (three years ago) link

Cool, I've bought like five of those (which I have yet to see) in the past month, good to see my taste is in fact impeccable.

I don't think I will ever see what other people see in Suspiria, sadly.

Why does this relates to Yoda? (Old Lunch), Friday, 31 July 2020 14:59 (three years ago) link

88. Illustrious Corpses (Francesco Rosi)

OTM; I'm slightly disappointed cadaveri eccellenti didn't do as well as possession (1982)

oder doch?, Friday, 31 July 2020 15:37 (three years ago) link

Maybe it's a measure of how hard it is to make a comedy that stays funny, but I note a distinct dominance of serious films in your list.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Friday, 31 July 2020 18:06 (three years ago) link

it's OK, OL, Suspiria is giallos are shit

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 July 2020 18:15 (three years ago) link

The Driver and Apocalypse Now are both pretty funny.

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 July 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link

Giallo directors doing poliziotteschi are the best though.

And since Morbz is here, where is The Night Porter?

oder doch?, Friday, 31 July 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link

ONE of Bunuel's '70s films? And it's not Tristana? Away with thee...

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 July 2020 18:34 (three years ago) link


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