Liquid soap - WTFF??

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Liquid soap - WTF????????

why the fuck does this shit exist? why does everyone now seem to have a silly bottle with a squity bit in their bathrooms?! man, i am sick of this shit! whats wrong with a bar of soap? is there really any clear advantage in have brightly coloured, malodorous gunk in a bottle? Like, you dont even get to use it all, the last bit is inaccesible?! aaaaaaaaaarrrrghh

so, share your liquid soap stories here, and explain why you think it deserves to live.

(ps i am experiencing move-into-new-house-trauam, whereby i find out all the weirtd shit my new housemate does in her life, eg BREAD IN FRIDGE OMG LOLLOLOL, hence the anger)

― ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Because anybody that may use your bathroom will invariably wash their dirty hands using said soap. with liquid soap, you get the amount you need without anyone else having to touch it after you've used it.

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)

using a bar of soap always makes me feel like i'm rubbing my hands on someone else's shit from the previous use.

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

relax dude

― lukey (Lukey G), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

And you know that the liquid soap hasn't recently been used on someone's ass!

xxxxxpost

― Huk-L, Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Hot tip : when liquid soap comes to its last legs and the sqirty bit doesn't reach down enough to collect the bottom bit - open the cap and mix in a bit of water. you'd get slightly less concentrated soap, but it still works!

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)

liquid soap is neater, cleaner. plus i enjoy having a large bottle of neon red goop in my kitchen.

― kephm (kephm), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:21 (twenty-one years ago)

And if you drop it you don't get, ahem, "bathroom hairs" stuck to it.

― dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:21 (twenty-one years ago)

It is a bar of soap. Exactly how dirty is it going to get?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:21 (twenty-one years ago)

huk-l do you regularly stick liquid soap up people's asses?????

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:21 (twenty-one years ago)

the not slipping everywhere thing is a plus for liquid soap, too.

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:22 (twenty-one years ago)

and my gf will yell at me if i leave the soapdish with water in it, something i do not understand. i was like 'am i supposed to dry the bar of soap when i am done with it?"

― kephm (kephm), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:22 (twenty-one years ago)

soap dries my hands out something rotten!

― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

you should stick it up her ass xpost

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Antibacterial soap will kill you by not allowing your body to fight bacteria - C/D? (T/F?)

― dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Kephm - I think the problem is that you're letting too much water drip into the soap dish, causing the soap to go all manky. Your girlfriend is wise.

Bread in the fridge is another ridiculous one. Ditto ketchup in the fridge.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I used to know someon who put crisps in the fridge...

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Bread in the fridge controls humidity though, so it doesn't go moldy as fast.

― dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:25 (twenty-one years ago)

What's wrong with bread in the fridge? have you never had an invasion by mice what can get into any breadbin?

― Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Dr. Bronner's organic liquid soaps are very awesome, have strong powerful clean odor. I take camping with me for when I wash my body in streams and creeks.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah bread in fridge is totally classic, otherwise they go off in 3 days!

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

i now imagine matt's household to be full of furry bread and furry bars of soap

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:27 (twenty-one years ago)

kinda cute!

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:27 (twenty-one years ago)

sinker was a great one for crisps in the fridge. tried it once but found no difference.

i keep bread in fridge for anti-mould / freshness purposes. and because otherwise they'd be even less in my fridge than there currently is which would be depressing. ketchup too.

― koogs (koogs), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:29 (twenty-one years ago)

matt dc, yeah i know that's the problem, but actually i think i just wash my hands way too much. she is a bread and soap nazi.

― kephm (kephm), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Doesn't ketchup say "refridgerate after opening" on the label? I don't really use it much, but it seems like the right thing to do.

― dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Plus, bread-in-fridge encourages toasting-of-said-bread for eating/sammich purposes, which almost always = THE YUMMY.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

bread in the fridge i can live with. i used to put peanut butter in the fridge but have been reprogrammed

― kephm (kephm), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Peanut butter in the fridge makes it so hard you can't get your knife in.

― Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I put my bread in the fridge because it lasts longer, and goes stale (but still toastable) rather than mouldy. I hate when people don't keep their mustard in the fridge and it goes brown, but my ketchup lives in the cupboard.

But back to the subject. Liquid soap means that friends/grubby workmen know what it is and use it, rather than reaching for my expensive facial cleansing bar. To go into the bathroom and find a whole band plus their extra guitarist have rubbed my expensive facial cleansing bar all over themselves in my shower and reduced it to half the size and garnished it with hairs is VERY annoying.

Don't get me started on boyfriends who leave the soap dish swimming in water.

― Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Ditto ketchup in the fridge.

No! Ketchup is MEANT to go in the fridge! Read the label!

xpost, thanks dave

― JimD (JimD), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Crisps in the fridge is totally wrong, they lose their crispness!

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Every single cafe in London can't be wrong!

I'm not even going to speculate on why Madchen has had an entire band taking a shower together in her bathroom.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Ketchup in the cupboard, salad cream in the fridge.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

i refridgerate ketchup. it seems wise to me. same with eggs - i don't understand the room temperature eggs thing you people do here in the UK. i guess 'room temperature' in most homes is cold enough.

i don't like liquid soap. i prefer a nice bar of pears in the bathroom - it seems more civilised to me. liquid soap in those dispensers, i dunno, feels like a cheap cop-out.

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

i am still in two minds about EGGS in the fridge. but i've tried it a few times and they stay good for so much longer.. so maybe i should do it.

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)

plus the bar you have for showering purposes should be in a seperate area from the bar by the sink for hand-washing purposes! TWO BARS, PEOPLE!

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)

angel in the garden, whore in the bedroom, and your mother in the wardrobe

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

two bars are always better than one

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Ketchup in the cupboard, salad cream in THE MANGY PIT OF HELL to which it belongs.

Liquid soap is for HANDWASHING ONLY. If soap is going to be used on any other bits it should be a BAR, hence liquid soap by kitchen sink, yes, liquid soap in BATHROOM, no.

― Starry (hello chickens), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Bread in the fridge incidentally is INSANE.

― Starry (hello chickens), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

you don't wash your hands in the bathroom?!??!?

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

(the mangy pit of hell = the back of the fridge, where it never gets touched, I must confess)

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

(starry sarah is making very good sense here, I must confess)

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

i have liquid soap in the kitchen, liquid soap in the bathroom for washing hands only & a bar for washing bodies!
ketchup in the cupboard, mayo/salad cream/mustard in the fridge.

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Liquid soap = ONLY WHEN YOU ARE WASHING ONLY YOUR HANDS, ONLY!!! In the bathroom you're in a "hands PLUS!" situation so YOU USE SOAP. Gooner!

― Starry (hello chickens), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Liquid soap is for HANDWASHING ONLY. If soap is going to be used on any other bits it should be a BAR

i don't understand the reasoning behind this.

xpost but what about the soap you use for post-poo situations????? or do you use the same one for post-poo and shower??

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)

cold bread is disgusting. food like bread, ham etc should be room temperature. cold meat is vile. don't get me started.

as for ketchup in the fridge, that's also lunacy, disgusting condensation. HOWEVER occasionally it cools hot things well.

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I had shower gel by the shower, but the label was in french, so I think they got confused.

― Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Liquid soap is INCREDIBLY drying, you have to faff about pumping it, you can't rub it about and get lathery, it's only decent for handwashing and nothing else! Who is going to wash their FACE with handwash for goodness sake? We shouldn't even be CALLING it soap!!

KEN: post-poo situation still = WASHING YOUR HANDS unless you, er, have extra "problems" down there...

― Starry (hello chickens), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Aw man, what I'd give for a bottle of ketchup and a digital camera right now. (if anyone else has access to these things you can really help me out). Honestly, it always says on the label that you have to refridgerate it. I was shocked when I first heard too (a friend was doing a food hygiene course), but really, it's true. And a bottle of ketchup usually lasts, what, a month? Two? Would you leave any other fridge food out for that long and still eat it?

Please, put it in the fridge.

― JimD (JimD), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

KEN: post-poo situation still = WASHING YOUR HANDS unless you, er, have extra "problems" down there...

EXACTLY! so liquid soap in bathroom!

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

It's got a ton of vinegar in it, dude - preservative innit.

xpost re ketchup

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)

and Shower Gel for shower, obv

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I hope starry wasn't calling me an arsenal fan!!

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean, that's like the point of bloody ketchup - preserved concentrated tomatoes.

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes! I forgot what point I was arguing there but THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS in the bathroom you wash more than just your hands so you don't want liquid soap, YES!

― Starry (hello chickens), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah Pink, remember those things called xposts?

― Starry (hello chickens), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:50 (twenty-one years ago)

And a bottle of ketchup usually lasts, what, a month? Two?
More like a year.

Would you leave any other fridge food out for that long and still eat it?
Flour, sugar, tea bags, jam... all sorts of things. Yes.

This is my favourite kind of thread, btw.

― Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Of course, but do YOU remember such things as jokes?
x-post. see?

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)

It is allowed to have different soaps for different parts of your body, you know. I don't use shower gel on my hair.

― Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Ketchup lasts FOREVER!

RULE OF THUMB: if it's not in the fridge at the supermarket then it doesn't need to be in the fridge at home!

(Madchen: me too!)

Pink: xpost: I'm afraid you've caught me in my "fun hating" recincarnation, innit.

― Starry (hello chickens), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Ronan probably lives in a cottage with no fridge. I hear it's cold in Ireland!

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Seriously - meat/ham left out of the fridge?? MADNESS!

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh no, I have to go home in four minutes.

― Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

What are everybody's thoughts on those plastic pouf thingies that you're supposed to use along with liquid soap in the shower? Just as unsanitary as bar soap, I would imagine, if you used them to wash the nether regions.

― Nemo (JND), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, but what about UHT milk? THat's not in the fridge at the supermarket, but if you don't refridgerate it after opening, you'll have UHT yoghurt really quick!

― Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Isn't it to do with once things have been opened though?
x-post
Ah, then all of this talk of ketchup/bread in the fridge & liquid soap can't be helping, my sympathies!

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry but no one has given me a convincing argument for liquid soap apart from "no pubes on bar of soap" and this: "liquid soap is neater, cleaner."

liquid soap is cleaner? how could it be cleaner than other soap? if theres grime on the soap, rinse it off! then use er....soap, to clean your hands. see, you can use the same thing for all purposes!

bread in the fridge: no comment. bread is not meant to last over 3 days, if it does there is something wrong with it, thats why civilised people eg French etc buy bread everyday, cos thats how long it lasts. if it is in the fridge, it is damp, cold, and shit. i dont want to eat bread like that. maybe you do.

Imperial Leather owns ALL your asses

also, i think madchen has given me a valuable insight into what i have been using all this time. guess it must be my housemates expensive facial cream bar thing!!!!

AAAAAARGGHHH DEATH TO UNNECESSARY COSMETICS ETC (carries on ranting for 4 hrs...)

― ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate liquid soap. It is an abomination. As is SHOWER GEL.

― Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

doesn't anybody here rub soap onto a sponge??? instead of sticking the bar up their asscrack or whatever?

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Flour, sugar, tea bags, jam...

tea bags aren't fridge food! Ah, you're making me giggle with your mentalness. :)

― JimD (JimD), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah you mean the "body puff", ahahahaha - well you're supposed to "wash them thoroughly after use" innit, I certainly do. But I use them with shower gel, not LIQUID SOAP which I have said before shouldn't even be called soap! "antibacterial cleanser" maybe!

― Starry (hello chickens), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)

the other thing about non liquid soap is it slips out of your hands. i'm not vehemently against it, to be honest soap is soap to me. liquid soap looks nicer than a mingy skinny bar of soap though, any day of the week.

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)

the soap arrangement in my house (my bathroom isn't really that large)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/kenjuggle/soap.jpg

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Imperial Leather is incredibly allergenic, and also suitable only for grandparents. Live in a timewarp if you want, but watch as we liquid soap users zoom to a zingy-clean future.

― L Ron Mother Hubbard, Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm getting hives just thinking about all that soap. Ugh!

x-post

― Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Cosmetics are NEVER unnecessary.

― Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Imperial Leather owns ALL your asses

(I use Imperial Leather shower gel :))) )

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

'other rooms'

more people are killed by bars of soap every year than...flying

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.handmadeinhartland.com/catpages/images/pouf.jpg

― Nemo (JND), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:59 (twenty-one years ago)

i have 8 other rooms there you know

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

ken, is that a turd floating in your toilet?

― JimD (JimD), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

EIGHT OTHER ROOMS AND THEY ARE ALL FULL OF LIQUID SOAP, OH NO, ARRRRGGGGHGHGGHGHGHHHHH!!!

― Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

jimD - 2 turds!!

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)

it was to demonstrate the use of liquid soap in a post-poo situation

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)

"Honestly, it always says on the label that you have to refridgerate it."
dude about a zillion things say this shit, like Black berry PRESERVE (GEDDIT PRESERVE IE ITS FULL OF FECKIN SUGAR MORRISONS YOU MUGS). its a cover your ass ploy by supermarkets in many cases, and not to be trusted.

Imperial Leather is gorgeous. Liquid soap users are no cleaner than me. If you are going to have liquid soap in one part of the bathroom, and a bar in another, why not just buy a four pack of Imperial Leather for 99p?! why take 10 soaps into the shower, when you can take one?!

my rule of thumb is, every basin should have soap by it, and every soap should be a bar of nice smelling soap. the holy grail is those massive hunks of olive oil soap that you get from provence.
liquid soap stinks of shit (which, is like, the secondary purpose of soap for me) looks suspicious, feels manky on your hands, you have to cane the bottle to get a decent amount out, as has already been mentioned, and is a royal waste of time. thats all i haver to say, before i explode, or transmogrify in to Ed (this thread is dedicated to him, although he recently changed his stance IIRC)

― ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah, I thought the little one was one of those toilet cleaner things that hangs over the rim.

Your big turd is about half the width of your bath. Good effort!

― JimD (JimD), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

hold on - the "pubes on the bar" argument against bars is FALSE!! i assumed ambrose's original thought when starting the thread was regarding the soap used by the sink, i.e. for common use by you and/or guests. in the shower, well, chacun a son gout - you can use fancy bars, liquid shower gels, whatever...

by the sink, there is indeed the option of either having a bar or a bottle of liquid stuff. the bar will not be 'polluted' by pubes or other 'unpleasantness' from body-washing, so there's NOTHING WRONG WITH A BAR, DAMMIT!

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

in other words, i'm with ambrose on this.

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm sure some wise-ass merkun's gonna tell us how it doesn't matter what format of soap we use the water here is too hard yet weak to clean anything properly anyway

ambrose i think you've gone mental, trad-soap is badly designed (it slips out of the hand so easily), cracks easily and messes up surfaces. liquid soap and shower gel 4 evah.

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

liquid soap is cleaner? how could it be cleaner than other soap?

no soapdish.

― kephm (kephm), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

What's a soapdish?

― Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

liquid soap is cleaner? how could it be cleaner than other soap? if theres grime on the soap, rinse it off! then use er....soap, to clean your hands. see, you can use the same thing for all purposes!

so you end up losing more soap by this rinsing process than you would lose from the bottom of the bottle of liquid soap!!!

i just don't like the feeling of as if i'm holding a bit of poo from the past whist using a soap, whilst trying to wash away poo from my hand. and also the time when your bar of soap gets so small it splits into tiny pieces :(

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.colgate.co.uk/products/personalcare/_img/lhs/img_pc_lhs_milk_honey.jpg

Liquid handwash smells nicer than soap, and Colgate Palmolive Milk & Honey Liquid Handwash smells nicer than all other liquid handwashes - and it doesn't make your skin dry.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

its a cover your ass ploy by supermarkets in many cases, and not to be trusted.

Ooh, I dunno. I'm still worried. I just have this vision of a 28 Days Later style situation where I find I'm the only person left alive in Britain because the rest of you have all died as a result of continued exposure to unrefridgerated ketchup.

― JimD (JimD), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

What's a soapdish?

oh christ

― kephm (kephm), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I refuse to believe that there is anything bad that can come out of eating unrefridgerated ketchup.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

bbbbut what about the pump thing on the liquid soap, thats covered in shit right, if theres shit on everyones hands who has used it? and who cleans the pump?

― ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

The best smelling soap in the world is LUSH HONEY I WASHED THE KIDS which is solid, solid, solid, the way god intended soap to be.

― Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

By that logic there's as much shit on the taps themselves. WHO CLEANS THE TAPS?!

I just went to the toilet and used the liquid soap and thought THAT EXACT SAME THING incidentally.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

yeh but you're about to wash your hands anyway if you're using the pump so it doesn't matter

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I refuse to believe that there is anything bad that can come out of eating unrefridgerated ketchup.

This is classic disater movie dialogue! I am Jeff Goldblum, and you're all going to die!

― JimD (JimD), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

the taps is a different issue - we need those sensor ones like you get in swank hotels

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.madworlddesign.co.uk/abbieswork/madness.jpg

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Jim, will you save a sweet-looking little girl from eating the deadly ketchup in the nick of time?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

And Welcome Breaks on the M62.

― Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes. And a dog. And a hottie lady. And then we'll build a whole new world. Without ketchup!

― JimD (JimD), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:17 (twenty-one years ago)

wait, ketchup is liquid TOMATO, OH NO

― kephm (kephm), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:17 (twenty-one years ago)

This sounds like the sort of film in which the lady is played by Kate Beckinsale.

The automatic taps they have in the Tottenham Court Road McDonalds nowadays are k-rub. You have to practically bash the wall to get them working.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:18 (twenty-one years ago)

practically bash the wall to get them working.

You don't want to KNOW what I read that as...

― Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Serious question - what about brown sauce?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

my one misgiving about actual bars of soap are that they are mostly sodium-tallowate - ie big bars of melted-down cow. vegetable soap (sodium-palmate based) is strangely hard to come by around here, especially since the rise of Morrisons.

― koogs (koogs), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)

what about brown sauce?

I'll check the label when I get home tonight.

― JimD (JimD), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

i've used some excellent sensor taps but can't remember where

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah personally i dont think about all the shit smeared all over door handles, taps, flushes, etc etc etc. i dont give.....wait for it....a shit. oddly enough, i think the same as steve m, ie yeh but you're about to wash your hands anyway if you're using the pump so it doesn't matter, gowes the same for a bar of soap, ie you are using a cleaning product, so you will get clean, not dirty.

― ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)

If only you could wash yourself with a piece of ketchupy bread. I suppose that is what you would do though, if you had been spritzed by a skunk. (Worked for the Partridge family anyway.)

― dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

yeh but all the crap comes into contact with the soap. to me your logic seems akin to viewing baths as better than showers when it comes to gettin' clean

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

wait, ketchup is liquid TOMATO, OH NO

You're so naive.

Incidentally, I went into Lush the other day (went shopping in Edinburgh with my mum) and it was the worst place ever. It stank to high heaven, and all the workers were very chic, which I don't like. And the soaps had stupid names and meaningless descriptions.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Brown sauce does not require refridgeration.

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

i've used some excellent sensor taps but can't remember where

MI5?

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Do boys just have some kind of genetic predisposition towards smell that they cannot stand the smell of Lush? I mean, yeah, it's pretty overpowering, but most females seem to be able to stand it, or even like it. I think it must be some kind of genetic primitive hunter-gatherer that girls are more attuned to the smell of florals or something.

― Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:28 (twenty-one years ago)

nah, you need the actual tomato, cause there is no shit on it. but only organic

xpost

Naive? WTF

― kephm (kephm), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Brown sauce does not require refridgeration.

what about refrigeration?

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

(sorry)

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, don't worry Kephm.

Lush burns my lungs.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

i am amused by Ronan's disdain for cold meat. i shall wave some refridgerated ham in his face next time i see him.

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Brown sauce just does not get your hands clean.

― Nemo (JND), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)

i never got close enough to Miki or Emma to answer the question

― kephm (kephm), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

so why is there no 'd' in 'refrigeration', but there is in 'fridge'?
(thanks ken)

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

i bet kate knows!

― kephm (kephm), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

to the smell of florals or something.

yo its not the smell of flowers that chokes me when i walk past lush (u dont even need to go in!), its rancid burning chemicals!

hey steve, iu dont really belivce my argument about shit on the pump/soap or whatever, that was just a riposte to kens i just don't like the feeling of as if i'm holding a bit of poo from the past whist using a soap

― ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

especially since the rise of Morrisons

that was the other thing that got me mad last night

― ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

if you do I will have to kill you, steve

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

i guess for me the shit on soap thing is really just the thought of the stuff that's supposed to clean you shouldn't really have the stuff you're trying to clean out on it in the first place.. like. with the pump thing for the handwash you might get extra poo on your hand from the pump, BUT after you got the viscous nectar out, you're washing it all off! all down the sink, woot!

with a bar of soap, you're still actually FONDLING this bar of soap which still might have the previous user's shit during the washing process! that's the actual thing you're putting on your hand! lovingly rubbing the stuff off from the soap surface.. and putting more back!! like a fly praying on a piece of decayed meat.

in reality it's not that much different. but the thought of it! and it certainly gives advantage to the handwash liquid.

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Do I know what? What Miki and Emma smell like? I've only ever smelled Miki. She smelled of cider. But in a nice way, kind of like appleblossoms, not like scary Camden street drinkers.

― Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

rob that has always intrigued me too, and also why there is an o in "pronounce", but the noun is "pronunciation"

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

and why is a word like phonetic spelled so fucky?

― dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I'VE GOT IT!

I've been wondering what exactly it is about liquid soap that bothers me, and it occurred to me as I went to our office bathroom for a wee. You see, liquid soap is what I expect to see in 'public' washrooms - offices, restaurants, bars, train stations, etc. It makes sense in these high-traffic environments (except Glastonbury, where they oddly favour the piles of manky bars by the makeshift sinks). In your home on the other hand, sure you will have a sink for guests to use, but why emulate a public bathroom? A bar of soap reminds you that you are in a "home" - a comforting feeling.

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

nope, the d in fridge question.

― kephm (kephm), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

So.. I should remove the hand-dryers from my bathroom as well now?

― dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

get a life rob ;)

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

(except Glastonbury, where they oddly favour the piles of manky bars by the makeshift sinks).

too much plastic for their liking

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

rob OTM. although i kinda love hand dryers, esp the black "world handdryer corporation, berkeley, IL" dryers they have in....moto service stations, is it? they are classy and would look good in a bathroom.

― ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

waste of electricity tho

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:50 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't enjoy standing there for ten minutes waiting for my hands to dry

― kephm (kephm), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Soft, nicely-scented things don't get your hands clean, and may well lead to gay marriage. The only appropriate hand-washing product is a rough, green bar of Lava soap, or, if you've been wrenchin' on something especially greasy, a can of Goop:

http://www.goophandcleaner.com/images/original_350w.jpg

― briania (briania), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I like 'World Dryer Corporation' because of the sinister overtones of their name.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

in my last job in canada, we found a whole bunch of those world handdryer units in the rubbish area of our office after some renovations in the building. our office manager wanted to take them and mount them on our wall as "art". he was shot down. (i supported his idea on the condition that they would all be functional)

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:55 (twenty-one years ago)

have any of you ever used that soap made from rats?

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

This is the best thread in a very, very long time!

― Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I like when they're mounted up high and show a little picture of how you can use them as hair dryers.

xpost

― dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

waste of electricity tho

so you favour paper-towels? THINK OF THE TREES!

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I like liquid soap.

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I like when they're mounted up high and show a little picture of how you can use them as hair dryers.

I like that a bit. But I'm a bit dense, don't notice it's aimed up and always push the button and get hot-eyes.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

so you favour paper-towels? THINK OF THE TREES!

no we're talking about in the home, proper towels only

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Liquid soap is INCREDIBLY drying
I agree. I have some, but only by the kitchen sink (Dial soap) because I don't like the idea of a bar of soap touching the gross sink.

I am generally opposed to shower gels for the same reason, but am all for the occasional bath gel, but only when taking a bath, not showering.

On other topics, eggs, ketchup, and mustard all go in the fridge with the salad dressing. Bread goes on the counter.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I like how the toilet sinks in the Barbican have these foot pedals, you don't have to risk touching the taps! Just push the button with your foot and you have flowing water, genius. It's like being in a spaceship, but not quite.

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Ketchup lives in the cupboard, it goes in about 2-3 weeks. I love ketchup.

Mustard lives at the back of the cupboard, as it is disgusting.

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

The Barbican is *SOOO* like a spaceship or a spacestation. Or some bizarre retro-futuristic Roman vision of a spacestation...

― Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Holy shit Ken, the solution is STOP SMEARING SHIT ON YOUR HANDS YOU DIRTY FREAK!

I am firmly in Ambrose's camp on the soap issue. The rest of you are a load of namby-pamby bed-wetting hypochondriacs.

Here's something I DO think is unhygienic - when people in cafes make your sandwich with the same hands with which they take your money. Money really IS dirty and foul.

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

or when they put money in the sandwich despite the fact you specifically said you didn't want any.

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't keep my (delicious) wholegrain mustard or jam in the fridge but am thinking i should.

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I only put jam in the fridge in the summer.

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)

do you think one day we will have nanobots inside us that do all the cleaning?

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:11 (twenty-one years ago)

they will replace the traditional English "nan".

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

But we already have lots of friendly bacteria!

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

We'll have microchips inside our heads, and have robots to make our beds.

I reckon there will be some kind of laser system that will totally replace soap and water.

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't believe in the 'friendly bacteria' thing - i think they just made that up so people would buy whatever that weird product is.

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

People will get nostalgic about liquid soap. There will be enthusiasts the world over, washing their hands in secret.

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

ah, Goop.

there used to be an advert on tv for domestic version of industrial hand cleaner and it used to finish with the words "From the makers of 'PlusGas' and 'Gunk'" which always amused me.

― koogs (koogs), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

We should also have life-support systems that allow us to survive by just lying in bed .. and then some virtual reality that allows us to experience whatever we want without travel. Awesome.

xpost

― dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

In the US military liquid soap is a godsend. As I recall nobody used bar soap after basic training. Seriously.

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

robot whores. priorities people.

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I think the stomach is full of bacteria and whatnot for breaking down the food you eat. Whether it's friendly or not is debateable. I wouldn't expect a birthday card.

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

i wonder if prisoners take bottles of liquid soap on a roap into the communal showers

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:19 (twenty-one years ago)

As far as 'friendly bacteria' go, I've always wondered why you don't get positive viruses, that like clean up your arteries and increase your muscle mass and make you feel happy or something. It would be in their interests because we would, for health and recreation purposes, deliberately give the virus to each other. Why do you need to hurt us, viruses?!

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:19 (twenty-one years ago)

You know what else is the greatest thing on earth? Moist towelettes. Baby wipes are king. Also, self-drying hand sanitizer gel.

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Sarah McKlusky is utterly OTM about everything by the way. She speaks the truth. She is wise.

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Except I can't spell her name correctly

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Moist towlettes? Like the hot towel things that come in silver foil packaging that you get in restaurants sometimes? I like them for about 15-20 seconds, then they are just cold and damp, the thrill is all gone.

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Bread goes in the bread bin.

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)

The 'anti-liquid soap' thing is just snobbishness. They just want their bathrooms at home to be different from public toilets because of misanthropy and elitism.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I have so much liquid soap in my house it would make starry cry.

Kitchen - pretty L'Occitane bar soaps AND liquid hand soap

Bathroom sink - liquid soap for handwashing

Shower - Dr. Bronners liquid peppermint soap (this kinda makes my skin dry though), Cake-smelling body wash, and peppermint-rosemary body scrub, AND zest fully clean bar soap. I always use a bar soap before I just a body wash. I just don't feel clean otherwise.

Oh and I also have 5 shampoos and conditioners, and Madchen is right when she says you can NEVER have too many cosmetics!

― battlin' green eyeshades (Homosexual II), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)

ok random sample fomr tesco:

Imperial Leather Bath Soap 125g £0.45

Tesco Handwash Magnolia (cheapest liquid soap they do?) 500ml £0.88

i guarantee that 1 bar of soap lasts longer than a bottle of handwash.

therefore, bar of soap is cheaper, rendering this: The 'anti-liquid soap' thing is just snobbishness, a nonsense. although i secretly DO think that liquid soap is deeply deeply unclassy, hence my disdain, rendering that statement true.
how confusing.

― ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Cake smelling body wash?

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I have liquid soap at home cos my flatmates are doctors and they liberate it from hospital. But I use Dove bars too.

How does anyone feel about using shampoo in the shower instead of soap/gel? I'm all for it.

― beanz (beanz), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)

liquid soap from a wooden or stainless steel container would be classy. i hate cheap plastic but not as much as i hate soapbars

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Ideally, I would have a team of workers melting down bars of soap into liquid form.

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

ideally i'd be self-cleansing, like a cat, but there's no way i'm doing THAT

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

yes, you would need to be rather double jointed. And then there is the problem of hair-balls.

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)

i wish cats would discuss this sort of thing on public msg boards

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)

but there's no way i'm doing THAT

so... i assume this means you'd do anything for love?

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Hello, cake smelling body wash???

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

When and why did it stop being ok to wash your body with a bar of soap?
Do you religiously wash your hands in public restrooms?
"Men are pampering themselves, specifically with skin products that exfoliate, rejuvenate, and even moisturize. They're buying special soaps and lotions and eye creams. And even if they aren't yet flaunting it, they don't seem too embarrassed by it either."
My Morning Tingle

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 21 October 2004 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Why Shampoo?

― dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 21 October 2004 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)

RUMBLED!!!

i should have done a search...i nearly did, but my freakedout ness spurred me on.
i said in 1 post there what i took several rmabling incomprehensible pposts to say here

― ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 21 October 2004 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah it's cake-scented, jel.. purchased from the new Lush ripoff store that is blessing the malls of midwestern america.

― battlin' green eyeshades (Homosexual II), Thursday, 21 October 2004 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Ketchup in the fridge otherwise it might explode.

I keep my crisps in the bread bin, and my bread in the fridge. It's made from the same stuff as beer which I keep in the fridge.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 21 October 2004 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)

does it smell more like birthday candles or frosting? xpost

― kephm (kephm), Thursday, 21 October 2004 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm imagining victoria sponge, lovely!

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 21 October 2004 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)

x-post What is this faux-Lush store, Mandee?
In a public bathroom I would much rather use liquid soap from a dispenser than a bar sitting in a few cm's of water that everyone else has pawed. In my own house, for hand-washing, I really don't care.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 21 October 2004 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Every single cafe in London can't be wrong!

oh yes they can!

― adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 21 October 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't have ketchup, bread, or crisps so I can't tell you how I work this out. I do know that keeping eggs or ketchup out of the fridge is mentalism.

OH and Jocelyn, this store is called MELT and its OKAY but it's NO Lush that's for damn sure.

It seems that I remember dealing with a lot more soppy bars of soap in public restrooms in the UK -- I wonder why?

― battlin' green eyeshades (Homosexual II), Thursday, 21 October 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

What about foaming soap dispensers? They seem to be quite the thing in hospitals these days.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 21 October 2004 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I actually hate soap.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 21 October 2004 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

adam = smelly.

I love foaming soap! Although it goes fast.

― battlin' green eyeshades (Homosexual II), Thursday, 21 October 2004 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

It seems that I remember dealing with a lot more soppy bars of soap in public restrooms in the UK -- I wonder why?

We don't have any in our houses so we devour them eagerly when we (infrequently) wash.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 21 October 2004 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I use soap frequently but it's a horrible word and a horrible product.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 21 October 2004 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yeah! The Ketchup says to refrigerate! I also assumed "a cool dry place" was good enough. Oh well. I don't think I could get learn to live with cold ketchup.

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 21 October 2004 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I keep my crisps in the bread bin, and my bread in the fridge. It's made from the same stuff as beer which I keep in the fridge.

I like this! I think I could respect almost any opinion as long as their justifications were witty.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 21 October 2004 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

doesn't anyone just like cold ketchup? I don't really like it as much warm (ie. at restaraunts)

― -- (A.H.), Thursday, 21 October 2004 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I haven't read this thread all the way through, but I had no idea there were people who didn't refrigerate ketchup. You are all mad.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 21 October 2004 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh wait but restaurants! Good point! Yeah, it just sits there on the table, doesn't it?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 21 October 2004 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)

What about jam??? To refrigerate or not?

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 21 October 2004 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I always refrigerate jam. I guess I refrigerate all sauces/condiments like jam, ketchup, pasta sauce, mustard, hummus, pesto, etc., once they've been opened.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 21 October 2004 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I would think if you didn't refrigerate jam, it would attract bugs.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 21 October 2004 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I keep jam in the cupboard. But I guess it might depend on climate.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 21 October 2004 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Do you live in the tundra?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 21 October 2004 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I refrigerate jam too otherwise it ends up with mould on top, which may not be tasty in a mouldy cheese type of way.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 21 October 2004 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Tundra? No. But my jam has never attracted bugs, so I was imagining some sort of rainforest environment might force the use of a fridge.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 21 October 2004 20:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh wait but restaurants! Good point! Yeah, it just sits there on the table, doesn't it?
But they use it so quickly that it's gone before it goes bad.

Also, if someone gets food poisoning, they always blame the chicken salad.

― dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 21 October 2004 21:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, wait. If they had chicxen salad, they prolly wouldn't have used ketchup too. Damn you, botulism!

― dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 21 October 2004 21:59 (twenty-one years ago)

holy shit! if people'd only stop smearing poo onto their bank notes then we'd have no problems in sandwich shops!

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 October 2004 22:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Mandee, why not L'occitane soap every where. It's taken the place of dr bronners (too expensive in the Uk) and the really nice savon proveçal liberty used to sell.

However I think you are all not being clearly scientific. Mist things you describe as liquid soap are in fact detergents not Soap. Dr Bronners should be the bench mark for liquid soap as it is actually soap. I loathe with a passion all of these detergents one is supposed to put on the skin, showergels, squirty hand detergents etc. Far too chemical and nasty. Soap is where it's at.

Seriously - meat/ham left out of the fridge?? MADNESS!

Maybe sliced packaged ham belongs in the fridge, but real ham in whole hocks and legs belongs in the larder or on the sideboard.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 22 October 2004 06:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Well Ed, I for one can attest that houses (kitchens in particular) are generally colder over here than in North America (at least in all the drafty houses i've been in anyway) - so maybe this 'meat out of the fridge' business will fly here, but I don't know about 'belongs'. But NO WAY would I leave meat 'out'! It will go bad! Bacteria will flourish more quickly! Are you seriously trying to tell me that keeping meat at room temperature has advantages over refrigerating it? Name them!

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Friday, 22 October 2004 07:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Hippies talking about soap?! Whatever next... ;)

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 22 October 2004 07:57 (twenty-one years ago)

SWARFEGA, bitches.

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Friday, 22 October 2004 08:13 (twenty-one years ago)

swarfega may have been what they were selling in the advert i mentioned above. all my lego is in large industrial swarfega tubs that dad bought home from work.

don't cafes, restaurants etc use liquid soap because it's harder to steal as well as being more hygenic? (public toilets in hammersmith have strange 'soap on a stick' arrangement, solid bars that poke out from the wall)

― koogs (koogs), Friday, 22 October 2004 08:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Dudes, jam was invented before refrigerators. What do you think people did in olden times?

I'm allergic to Lush. Last time I went in, I got a nose bleed. Seriously.

Molton Brown handwash is what I will be buying next, probably with a matching hand cream. It's super scrummy (although I agree that L'Occitane stuff is also good).

― Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 22 October 2004 09:16 (twenty-one years ago)

the best hand stuff I've found is crabtree and evelyn's gardener's range. They've got what's effectively an exfoliator for your hands, but it's got oils and stuff in it too, so when you wash it off it leaves your hands really silky. And their handcream is good too. They do have soap in the same range that mum swears by (liquid, to boot) but I find it a bit drying.

Though I did buy some L'Occitane handcream (20% shea butter!) on the ferry the other day, to leave in work.

― Vicky (Vicky), Friday, 22 October 2004 09:29 (twenty-one years ago)

(public toilets in hammersmith have strange 'soap on a stick' arrangement, solid bars that poke out from the wall)
This creeps me out. So you have to, like, rub a protrusion from the wall in order to use the soap? Yeurgh.
I have about five bars of special soap in the bathroom that have been needing their own dishes for a while. Anything that I put in the shower, dish or no, dissolves too quickly! I'd prefer liquid soap for handwashing if I could get Dr Bronner's. I probably could, but haven't bothered yet.

― sgs (sgs), Friday, 22 October 2004 09:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I had a look at the bottles in my kitchen this morning. The HP sauce says nothing at all about storage. But the Heinz ketchup said "refrigerate after opening and consume within 8 weeks".

!!!!! Insanity!

― JimD (JimD), Friday, 22 October 2004 10:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Drink it.

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Friday, 22 October 2004 10:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Sarah, shall we go on a soap-dish-buyin' spree this weekend? Not sure I want liquid soap in the house, really :)

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 22 October 2004 10:20 (twenty-one years ago)

heathens

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Friday, 22 October 2004 10:29 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, here again is your final authority on the fridge/food conuundrum:

Eggs - dear god, no - NEVER in the fridge. Eggs absorb moisture and odour from the rest of the fridge. Leave them in a dry, cool cupboard or buy less at a time.

Meat - Into the fridge with you my friend, bactieria multiplies quickly.

Bread - WHY!? would you put something that only works fresh and moist into an environment where moisture is sucked away? An airtight tin and carefull handling are best. If you want bread to last more than a day or two think about putting it in the freezer instead. Otherwise buy less bread more freguently - it isn't really very good for you anyway.

Ketchup/Jam - It's preserved innit, but sticking it in the fridge will do it no harm and a full fridge costs less to run, so why not?

---

As regards the soap/liquid debate, I'm not getting involved.

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Friday, 22 October 2004 10:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Dudes, jam was invented before refrigerators. What do you think people did in olden times?

Died young.

Do you heat your home in the winter? Because in olden times, they didn't do that. Refrigerators, heaters, flush toilets, automobiles .. all were actually pretty useful inventions! You should try them!

― dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 22 October 2004 11:04 (twenty-one years ago)

they so had automobiles in ancient times

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 22 October 2004 11:08 (twenty-one years ago)

yaba dabba do
http://www.seeing-stars.com/Images/People/Flintstones.jpg

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 22 October 2004 11:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh my GOd! They killed Dino in a Flintstones episode? (He looks happy though.)

― dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 22 October 2004 11:12 (twenty-one years ago)

That's a scream of terror.

Re. eggs and bread: if they sold them in smaller packs than 6 eggs or 1 loaf, I would buy less more often. Unfortunately...

― Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 22 October 2004 11:16 (twenty-one years ago)

yeh same here i think. you should be able to buy just a couple of Polos or a few sips of Coke from shops too (i'm serious!)

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Friday, 22 October 2004 11:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I used to know a shop where you could buy just one egg... can't remember for the life of me where it was, though. :-(

― Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Friday, 22 October 2004 11:21 (twenty-one years ago)

B-b-but, eggs are in the refrigerator in the stores! Surely that means you are supposed to refrigerate them at home as well! And why on earth would you *not* refrigerate ketchup? What's the problem with cold ketchup? If you put it on warm food it still warms upp, right? I put everything in the refrigerator except for dry stuff like rice, pasta, flour, etc. And I've even been refrigerating those things for a while when we had a problem with little black bugs living in the flour bags (the cold makes them not breed). Bread I usually keep in the freezer - lasts forever and I almost always toast it anyway!

― Hanna (Hanna), Friday, 22 October 2004 11:53 (twenty-one years ago)

eggs are not refriDgerated in UK stores

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Friday, 22 October 2004 11:54 (twenty-one years ago)

This is what bugs me most about UK supermarkets. THEY DON'T REFRIDGERATE EGGS!!!

Only in the UK have I ever bought eggs, and got them home from the shops to find that they are already off. :-(

― Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Friday, 22 October 2004 11:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I never put my eggs in the fridge, and I have never had a bad egg, even when they've gone past the use by date.

― Vicky (Vicky), Friday, 22 October 2004 11:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Bad eggs are really scary. Much yuckier than moldy bread.

By the way, isn't it true that mold in semi-liquid things like jam, and ketchup I guess, is potentially more dangerous than mold on solid things like hard cheese and bread? Because it sort of spreads its threads all through the food and you easily miss it?

― Hanna (Hanna), Friday, 22 October 2004 12:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm convinced that by putting a red date on eggs, they are just trying to encourage people to throw them away before they need to. The only thing that happens is the membrane around the yolk goes a bit saggy and wrinkly so you can tell they're not dead, dead fresh, but supermarket eggs aren't anyway.

(I've scooped mould off jam and kept eating it loads of times. Same with cheese)

― Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 22 October 2004 12:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah I've eaten hard cheese after just cutting off the moldy bits lots of times, but my mother always told me to not do that with jam because of evil nasty mold-threads. But this may just be a myth, I don't know.

― Hanna (Hanna), Friday, 22 October 2004 12:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Mold has to have air to spread. Ergo, it can't extend into the body of a pot of jam.

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Friday, 22 October 2004 12:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I just looked this up! Swedish authorities recommend throwing away moldy jam if it contains less than 500 g sugar per 1 kg berries/fruit. If more sugar, scraping off the mold is fine. Lemonade and other drinks - throw away if moldy. Bread + cheese - cutting off mold is fine.

― Hanna (Hanna), Friday, 22 October 2004 12:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I think even I would throw away mouldy lemonade.

― Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 22 October 2004 12:12 (twenty-one years ago)

So has anyone had a really bad experience where a refrigerated egg tastes like rotting cabbage or whatever nasties were in the fridge with it? Perhaps it's the shell that absorbs all that?

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 22 October 2004 12:12 (twenty-one years ago)

If it tastes sulphurous, that means that the egg has GONE OFF!!!

― Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Friday, 22 October 2004 12:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Eggs absord things, they have a porous shell.

I've never encountered a rotten egg.

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Friday, 22 October 2004 12:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Basically you shouldn't have to worry about eating a rotten egg - when you crack open one that has gone bad, the smell will be noticeably awful - i.e., you won't cook & eat it. If you smell nothing - the eggs are OK.

The non-refrigerated eggs thing in the UK is the thing that freaked me out the most when moving here. I mean, even in your UK fridges, you have those little slots for eggs - why, pretel, would you do that, hmmm?

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Friday, 22 October 2004 12:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, if you BOIL eggs, then you don't notice the smell until it's already cooked. That's how I've (almost) eaten rotten eggs.

― Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Friday, 22 October 2004 12:34 (twenty-one years ago)

True, Kate.

I have never seen mouldy jam. And I do keep it in the fridge, like a sensible modern person.

Again, I think a lot of the UK/Irish 'don't put that in the fridge!' posse must be used to having cool pantries or something, and houses are generally cooler here anyway. In the 'modern' world, you see, we keep our houses warm in winter, and of course the heat can get ridiculous in summer time (yes, even in Canada), so keeping food out of the fridge is sheer lunacy!

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Friday, 22 October 2004 12:41 (twenty-one years ago)

"pretel"?

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 22 October 2004 12:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't refrigerate pretels.

― dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 22 October 2004 12:44 (twenty-one years ago)

so what is that damn word then? i assume it's a latin thing? this is what i get for using words i remember from bugs bunny cartoons...

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Friday, 22 October 2004 12:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Chewie is right about everything. He is wise.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 22 October 2004 12:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought it was just "pray tell" as in the Shakespearian sort of way.

― Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Friday, 22 October 2004 12:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Ahhhh, yes. That's it. Proper Olde English then. Although I still think of Bugs first.

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Friday, 22 October 2004 12:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I have a kitchen that's cold enough for me to keep my butter out of the fridge and it's still too hard to spread on bread.

Butter out of the fridge, OMFG!!!

― Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 22 October 2004 12:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Again, I think a lot of the UK/Irish 'don't put that in the fridge!' posse must be used to having cool pantries or something, and houses are generally cooler here anyway

That and the buckets of salt we add to *everything*. Even salt.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 22 October 2004 13:34 (twenty-one years ago)

the salt kills the germs that grew in room temperature.. so it all works out

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 22 October 2004 13:48 (twenty-one years ago)

or at least numb out the taste of the mould

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 22 October 2004 13:50 (twenty-one years ago)

i might experiment with refrigerating my eggs later to see if it'd help the egg stay pert after a few days... I watched Delia once and she got really annoyed about people frying/poaching old eggs. (you can tell by the fact that they don't float or something? or that they float.. i can't rmemeber it was way back in May 2003 when I watched this programme.)

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 22 October 2004 13:52 (twenty-one years ago)

the eggs, that is, that don't float.. not the people (unless they die from eating the bad eggs)

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 22 October 2004 13:52 (twenty-one years ago)

but she also got mad at people who put the eggs in the fridge but then didn't bring them up to room temperature before using them

― Vicky (Vicky), Friday, 22 October 2004 13:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Delia is a pedant. Enjoy your eggs any which way. I can't remember how you tell if an egg's fresh by it floating or otherwise in a glass of water. I am a failure.

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Friday, 22 October 2004 13:58 (twenty-one years ago)

if it hadn't been for Delia i would never have known that eggs had to actually be cracked open!

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Friday, 22 October 2004 13:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Chewie is right about everything. He is wise.

Guilty as charged! ;-)

Ahem. Anyway, I get annoyed at Delia, to paraphrase another group of wise people: She can stick her saucepans up her arse... sideways. {/obligatory Ipswich Town fan bias)

Also, don't all Merkins have air-con set at a temperature lower than their fridge anyway?

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Friday, 22 October 2004 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

If the egg sinks, it's fresh. If it floats, it's a witch.

― eggfynder general (robster), Friday, 22 October 2004 14:03 (twenty-one years ago)

"Eggs - dear god, no - NEVER in the fridge. Eggs absorb moisture and odour from the rest of the fridge. Leave them in a dry, cool cupboard or buy less at a time."

this is what baking soda is for! put an opened box in the fridge and it absorbs any other odours. or, you could really get crazy and wrap up anything stinky in saran wrap. twice the freshness!

― Emilymv (Emilymv), Friday, 22 October 2004 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

wait, what happned to all the soap? an egg is not soap people?

anyay, be used to having cool pantries guilty as charged. i admit that eggs go in the 'larder' (that was our name for it), as does most other stuff. if all of youse could see my folks house you would run away screaming, it is full of weird pots and jars full of funny stuff like fat and stuff left in the lardr, meat in the larder, butter on the side in a dish etc etc. thats the way i grew up i guess, so thats how i live. but i do get annoyed with my dad for failing to realise that if you take all the bread out of the breadbin and collect it on the side, to 'rationalise', then leave it a day, it is all stale and you have to give it to the birds. bu then, he was a business dude, ot a domestic one. and he isnt a good pupil.

― ambrose (ambrose), Friday, 22 October 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I keep reading that as "cool panties"...

― dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 22 October 2004 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I have actually noticed that people in the UK have cool panties.

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Friday, 22 October 2004 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

and air-conditioned merkins.

― briania (briania), Friday, 22 October 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

AC stands for Ass Crack.

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Friday, 22 October 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

wow, that totally rendered my post incomprehensible. which makes it no different to any other that i make.

― ambrose (ambrose), Friday, 22 October 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Lada

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 22 October 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

ass crack/dick crack

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 22 October 2004 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

i agree with ken about everything on this thread.. he was clearly correct about bar soap being teh suck.

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Friday, 22 October 2004 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)

using a bar of soap always makes me feel like i'm rubbing my hands on someone else's shit from the previous use.
-- ken c (pykachu10...), October 21st, 2004.

OTM! that's really all there is to it.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 23 October 2004 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Regarding soap: It is pretty obvious that none of you have worked in a health care situation, wherein handwashing is a ritual. I hate commercial soap (but have had to use antibacterial at work), so I keep a nice small bottle of diluted Dr. Bronner's next to the bathroom sink, and a nice small bottle of diluted in the shower (along with Origins salt rub bar soap), and some regular antibacterial in the kitchen for after chopping raw chicken, etc. - which I also put on the cutting board and knives.
Dr. Bronner's should be the one and only soap - liquid or otherwise - to fulfill all bathroom needs. Bar soap should be fancy and for after cleansing in the shower.
Also - soap should ALWAYS be kept in the refrigerator, and eggs belong on or near the edge of the bathroom sink. Handtowels should be cotton, and used to hide the ketchup. Bread is best left on the mantel, and if you don't have one, a plant stand will do. Mustard should be kept in the bedroom, at the foot of the bed, under the covers so your toes can find it when you need it.
Mayonnaise should be put on a pedestal in the middle of the kitchen and worshiped as the greatest condiment ever devised.

― aimurchie, Saturday, 23 October 2004 00:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Eggs are for buying 18 at a time and keeping in the fridge.

Fresh eggs are harder to peel when they're hard boiled — I found that out making three dozen deviled eggs for a family reunion.

On second thought, what aimurchie said.

― the apex of nadirs (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 23 October 2004 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Three things:

1. The environmental impact of the three main hand drying technologies has been assessed. Surprisingly, paper towels are actually the best option. The electricity involved in powering a blower, or in washing a fabric towel (plus the detergent factor) are more harmful than the production and delivery of cheap, shit recycled paper.

2. The egg refrigeration issue has been addressed before, at some length. I am generally of the good old British school of non-refrigeration, and certainly I have nothing but scorn for the '"h my word, eggs out of the fridge we shall all die!" freaks. However, I am prepared to accept, on the basis of evidence that I have found in the course of research into the subject, that refrigeration does indeed prolong eggs' shelf life. But cold eggs crack when you put them in a boiling water, and fried eggs are no good if they eggs aren't really fresh anyway, so the issue is muddied.

3. 'Fridge' has a 'd' because 'frige' looks stupid.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 23 October 2004 11:17 (twenty-one years ago)

the crisps first went in the fridge by error (they were some rare species of posh crisp): they tasted nicer so i went on doing it => it amplified the flavourdust i think

sugar is a preservative so jam need only be refrigerated for frosty taste sensation (ie put on hot buttered toast and eat v.quick = the baked alaska of horizontal snack foods)

mum says: don't refrigerate eggs or tomatos = the second is a flavour issue; the first possibly a TAINT issue (if you keep smelly things in the fridge the eggs will pick it up)

meat shd be kept on poles in the garden, if you have one (or sticking out of a hole in bathroom, to rub against) ( / taxi zum klo )

― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 23 October 2004 11:40 (twenty-one years ago)

The meat on poles issue seems to me to be unarguable.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 23 October 2004 11:45 (twenty-one years ago)

in hospitals - well the one in shrewsbury - they have this kewl anti-bacterial ~~jel~~ gel made of alcohol, which you rub on then it evaporates of by itself, complete w.frosty feel-sensation!!

― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 23 October 2004 11:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yes - I was going to mention that. They're trying to introduce this magic stuff to hospital bedsides across the country, in an attempt to fight off MRSA.

I assume it is the same stuff as they had in some of the Glastonbury 2003 portaloos, but which failed to make an appearance at the following year's festival. Mike Scott played an extra set to make up for it.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 23 October 2004 11:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not sure what menkos Rob Bolton is mixing with if he thinks Brits don't put eggs in the fridge. I don't know anyone who doesn't keep their eggs in the fridge!

― MarkH (MarkH), Saturday, 23 October 2004 12:24 (twenty-one years ago)

You know lots of people on this thread, sort of.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 23 October 2004 12:26 (twenty-one years ago)

'Fridge' has a 'd' because 'frige' looks stupid.

logically it should be spelt 'frig', but this gets blocked by Profanity Filters when you put it in an email.

― MarkH (MarkH), Saturday, 23 October 2004 12:26 (twenty-one years ago)

well you wouldn't spell "edge", as "eg".

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 23 October 2004 12:31 (twenty-one years ago)

[build-yr-own joke kit:

eg frig edgy fridgy

― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 23 October 2004 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)

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― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 23 October 2004 12:38 (twenty-one years ago)

MarkH - I'm British and I don't keep eggs, jam, ketchup, crisps or bread in the fridge. No wonder US fridges always look so overstocked on TV.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Saturday, 23 October 2004 12:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't keep jam or crisps in the fridge, but I do keep bread, eggs and ketchup in there.

― MarkH (MarkH), Saturday, 23 October 2004 13:04 (twenty-one years ago)

If you love America so much why don't you live there?

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 23 October 2004 13:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't agree with what you keep in the fridge, but I'll defend to the death your right to keep it there.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Saturday, 23 October 2004 13:06 (twenty-one years ago)

X-post, I guess. Oh, and I won't defend you if it's human heads or something. They go in the freezer.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Saturday, 23 October 2004 13:09 (twenty-one years ago)

blowers are least environmentally damaging, I believe.

― RJG (RJG), Saturday, 23 October 2004 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Well that's not WHAT I HEARD.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 23 October 2004 13:12 (twenty-one years ago)

the blowers make it hard to hear, properly.

― RJG (RJG), Saturday, 23 October 2004 13:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I assume it is the same stuff as they had in some of the Glastonbury 2003 portaloos, but which failed to make an appearance at the following year's festival.

I found some this year. I considered trying to drink it, at one point.

― JimD (JimD), Saturday, 23 October 2004 13:14 (twenty-one years ago)

To what end?

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 23 October 2004 13:15 (twenty-one years ago)

it's not called "drinking", to the other end.

― RJG (RJG), Saturday, 23 October 2004 13:16 (twenty-one years ago)

the blowers make it hard to hear, properly.

Yeah, but blowers can mask your toilet sounds. Also, I use to be a cleaner, so I'm definitely in favour of driers, as then you don't have to clean up all the towels some kids have thrown everywhere. And blocked up sinks with...?

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Saturday, 23 October 2004 13:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry, that was me - I thought it was a new kind of soap.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 23 October 2004 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)

yes: paper towels = towel production + delivery + tidy up + disposal

these all involve having the lights on.

― RJG (RJG), Saturday, 23 October 2004 13:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Sheets of soap would be cool. You pull one from the dispenser, and when they get wet they liquify. Like those horrible mint things you get.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Saturday, 23 October 2004 13:19 (twenty-one years ago)

they would just stick to the roof of your mouth and not liquify, properly, too.

― RJG (RJG), Saturday, 23 October 2004 13:20 (twenty-one years ago)

To what end?

High alcohol content, and we'd run out of booze, and I was very very drunked.

― JimD (JimD), Saturday, 23 October 2004 13:27 (twenty-one years ago)

'But cold eggs crack when you put them in a boiling water, and fried eggs are no good if they eggs aren't really fresh anyway, so the issue is muddied.'

really? I only eat fried eggs and those taste fine...I always have refrigerate them.

jel mentioned 'cool, dry place' for ketchup so outside the fridge is something I do. Refigerated jam is wonderful so that's in, summer or winter.

As fas as bread goes I keep in the fridge but I always toast the thing.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 23 October 2004 13:38 (twenty-one years ago)

No, my point about fried eggs was that, as Delia says, the eggs have to be really fresh for them not to be too runny, sloodging out all over the pan. It's not a taste thing. So although refrigerating them might allow eggs not to go rotten for a couple of extra weeks, by that point they'd be pretty useless for frying anyway.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 23 October 2004 13:43 (twenty-one years ago)

By 'really fresh' I guess I mean within a week of being laid, ideally.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 23 October 2004 13:43 (twenty-one years ago)

nobody will follow up that post with a joke ok?

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 23 October 2004 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

delia's tip for pouring the pan oil back on top of the eggs with a spoon just doesn't work unless you use a fucking lake of oil to cook them.

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 23 October 2004 13:47 (twenty-one years ago)

The best fried egg I've ever had was on my mum's Aga, recently. The egg was fresh from our hens; I'd recently got laid; and Mum had discovered that you can fry eggs on the Aga hotplate, with no oil at all, just a piece of special silicone paper, and with the domed cover down.

An amazing egg.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 23 October 2004 13:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I had an egg just now, I wouldn't rave about it to be honest. It didn't help that I didn't synchronise cooking it with cooking sausages, so it was sort of cold when I went to eat it. It was sub-par at best.

If pushed I'd give it a mere 3/10.

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 23 October 2004 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)

soapy?

― RJG (RJG), Saturday, 23 October 2004 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

cooking sausages