I was pretty impressed. I was expecting something totally different and much less dark.
Anyone else watch it?
I fear it'll be cancelled within a month or so, as that seems to be the fate of most good television these days.
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 23 September 2004 09:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― kephm (kephm), Thursday, 23 September 2004 11:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― g--ff (gcannon), Thursday, 23 September 2004 12:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 23 September 2004 13:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 28 October 2004 21:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 28 October 2004 21:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Andy K (Andy K), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 28 October 2004 23:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― JaXoN (JasonD), Friday, 29 October 2004 02:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 29 October 2004 05:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― LeCoq (LeCoq), Friday, 29 October 2004 06:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 29 October 2004 06:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― LeCoq (LeCoq), Friday, 29 October 2004 06:30 (nineteen years ago) link
I should move on.
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 29 October 2004 06:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 10:49 (nineteen years ago) link
Actually, I wonder if UPN affiliates might back out of showing the new episode tonight and if they'll just show the previous week's.
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 10:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― JaXoN (JasonD), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 00:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 00:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― JaXoN (JasonD), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 00:43 (nineteen years ago) link
does she like the show?
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 00:47 (nineteen years ago) link
KYLE, DO NOT SUCCOMB TO TIVO. IT IS THE BANE OF MY EXISTENCE. MY WIFE HASN'T LEFT THE COUCH SINCE APRIL.
― JaXoN (JasonD), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 00:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 15:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Leon the Fratboy (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― alex in montreal, Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Chip shop (Danny), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 21:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 23:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jeffrey (Danny), Thursday, 23 December 2004 00:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Thursday, 23 December 2004 07:31 (nineteen years ago) link
http://villagevoice.com/issues/0449/tv.php
"pulses with promise" is about right. Good character too, at least fr me.
Plus i was reading this thread, Why do I not get, care for, and in fact utterly disdain Buffy et al? while i was watching some episodes which implanted buffy in my brain. Now i think veronica mars is the first Post-Buffy show i have seen. there are probably already ones anyway, i miss a lot of tv. post-buffy is a pretty crap term.
err, Mel W to thread?
― chip shop (Danny), Thursday, 23 December 2004 08:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 15 January 2005 20:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 15 January 2005 22:54 (nineteen years ago) link
Some have been more uneven than others.
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Sunday, 16 January 2005 00:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 16 January 2005 00:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 16 January 2005 00:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Sunday, 16 January 2005 00:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― alex in montreal, Monday, 17 January 2005 01:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― qbert (Danny), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 21:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 21:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― qbert (Danny), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 21:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― alex in montreal, Wednesday, 26 January 2005 21:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 22:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― qbert (Danny), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 23:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 14 February 2005 13:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 14 February 2005 13:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― gunther heartymeal (Homosexual II), Monday, 14 February 2005 16:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― gunther heartymeal (Homosexual II), Monday, 14 February 2005 16:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Monday, 14 February 2005 16:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― gunther heartymeal, Monday, 14 February 2005 16:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 14 February 2005 17:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 14 February 2005 17:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― gunther heartymeal, Monday, 14 February 2005 17:14 (nineteen years ago) link
story of my life.
― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 14 February 2005 17:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― gunther heartymeal, Monday, 14 February 2005 17:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― gunther heartymeal, Monday, 14 February 2005 17:21 (nineteen years ago) link
yeah it ws awesome when duncan starting hallucinating and backflip head-hitting leg-breaking sky diving off the bleachers because he WASN'T on pills rather than yknow on them.
― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 14 February 2005 17:22 (nineteen years ago) link
i actually am really excited for the allyson hannigan appearance. oh and logan and veronica working together -- yes.
― gunther heartymeal, Monday, 14 February 2005 17:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 14 February 2005 22:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― gunther heartymeal, Monday, 14 February 2005 22:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 14 February 2005 22:40 (nineteen years ago) link
so THE BEST!!!
― gunther heartymeal, Monday, 14 February 2005 22:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― qbomb (Danny), Monday, 14 February 2005 23:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― qbert (Danny), Monday, 14 February 2005 23:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Monday, 14 February 2005 23:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― qbert (Danny), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 00:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 00:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 00:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― qbert (Danny), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 00:09 (nineteen years ago) link
I'm a bad proselytizer.
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 03:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 18:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 18:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 18:43 (nineteen years ago) link
the last one I saw (as I say, 12) was the one where mrs. echolls jumped from the bridge, logan told his dad off at school and veronica was, once again, pesky.
― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 18:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 18:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― jill schoelen is the queen of my dreams! (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 19:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― qbert (Danny), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 21:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― qbert (Danny), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 21:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 00:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― gunther heartymeal, Wednesday, 16 February 2005 00:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 02:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― qbar (Danny), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 02:13 (nineteen years ago) link
yr loving 'ask veronica'
― qbert (Danny), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 02:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 02:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― qbert (Danny), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 02:22 (nineteen years ago) link
As long as you ignore their genre, plot structure, and the fact that one has an ensemble cast and the other doesn't. They do both take place in towns where crimes are committed and are filmed in front of a live camera crew.
― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 02:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― qbert (Danny), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 02:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 02:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 02:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 03:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 04:01 (nineteen years ago) link
twin peaks was way more dramatic. what with the "DOOO doooo" music that played everytime a scene ended.
― gunther heartymeal, Wednesday, 16 February 2005 04:03 (nineteen years ago) link
Twin peaks is 'something + detective genre' in the same way Mars is 'something + teen drama + detective genre'. They both focus on the place and characters within the place rather than just the murder yet the investigation is used as a catalyst fr character development and insight into place which again promotes the influence of things outside the detective plot.
A marlowe movie like the big sleep couldn't carry on after the plot is unravelled (obv that's bad because it's a film and they're supposed to end.), twin peaks did because it had strongly established other elements but this establishing was done through the investigation of laura palmers murder just like v. mars non-detective elements are being established through the investigation to a large/some extent.
Okay a lot of that is rub but i think the way the detective elements are used and blah and lilly kane = laura palmer means that they're pretty similar.
― qbert (Danny), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 04:50 (nineteen years ago) link
And it was much more about the town than the one dead girl -- she provided a focus for the first slightly-less-than-half of the show, but the bulk of even that half dealt with other things. Her murder was the equivalent of the hospital in General Hospital; the investigation was a setting as much as it was a plot element, like Mulder's ongoing quest in The X-Files. (There are bigger differences than this, but they boil down to "Twin Peaks is a take on the traditional night-time soap opera, Veronica Mars isn't," with the plot structures, the lack of episodic closure, the roaming focus on different characters, etc.)
― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 05:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― qbert (Danny), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 05:57 (nineteen years ago) link
Or, like buffy (prolly a ton of other things), the soap opera elements and character development are brought out through solving problems in her career. That does make it even more of a detective show though which twin peaks isn't but finding the actual murderer of lilly has about as much priority as finding laura's and the bulk of the show is about other things.
― qbot (Danny), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 06:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 10:13 (nineteen years ago) link
i read a review on imdb that said it was 1/3 buffy, 1/3 twin peaks and 1/3 'the outsiders'. i don't know what the outsiders is unless it's the slicks vs greasers book i read as a kid.
― qbert (Danny), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 10:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― johnson (johnson), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 11:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:07 (nineteen years ago) link
On the bright side, House is not hurting for ratings at ALL and is a 100% lock for a second season. And you should all watch it too. If you have Tivos or VCRs and can watch Veronica Mars first, that is.
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― gunther heartymeal, Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― gunther heartymeal, Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 19:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 19:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― gunther heartymeal, Thursday, 17 February 2005 19:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 18 February 2005 05:18 (nineteen years ago) link
Go on. You know you want to watch it.
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 07:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 07:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 11:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 11:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 11:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 12:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― alex in montreal, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 14:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 14:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― alex in montreal, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 15:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― gunther heartymeal, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 16:54 (nineteen years ago) link
veronica article.
― gunthet heartymeal, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 16:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― gunther heartymeal, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 16:57 (nineteen years ago) link
Which would be HUGE for the show.
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 17:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― gunther heartymeal, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 18:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 18:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 20:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Andy K. (ADK), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 03:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 06:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 17:02 (nineteen years ago) link
The man that Veronica saw at the end there is the man she thinks was sending the pictures to her mother.
Also her mother has a reputation as a bit of a drunk.
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 24 February 2005 09:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 24 February 2005 10:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Thursday, 24 February 2005 14:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 24 February 2005 14:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― gunther heartymeal, Thursday, 24 February 2005 16:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Oblivious Lad (Matthew Lazowski), Friday, 25 February 2005 03:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Sunday, 27 February 2005 08:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 18 March 2005 03:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 18 March 2005 03:23 (nineteen years ago) link
(I'm watching the alyson hannigan ep)
― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 18 March 2005 03:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 22:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Sunday, 10 April 2005 03:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Sunday, 10 April 2005 05:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 10 April 2005 07:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 10 April 2005 15:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Leon WK (Ex Leon), Sunday, 10 April 2005 16:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― gunther heartymeal (keckles), Thursday, 21 April 2005 23:17 (nineteen years ago) link
will the murder be solved at the end of this season?
― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 2 May 2005 13:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― gunther heartymeal (keckles), Monday, 2 May 2005 14:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Monday, 2 May 2005 16:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― gunther heartymeal (keckles), Monday, 2 May 2005 16:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Monday, 2 May 2005 16:53 (nineteen years ago) link
I wonder what will be the arc of the second series then, if it's all solved.
― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 2 May 2005 17:22 (nineteen years ago) link
Other than...mmmmm. Logan.
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Monday, 2 May 2005 17:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 2 May 2005 17:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Monday, 2 May 2005 17:36 (nineteen years ago) link
'Veronica Mars' Given Early Second-Season Renewal
(April 2005) - Warner Bros. International Television's critically acclaimed series "Veronica Mars" has been given an early pickup for a second season, with network heads lauding its fine cast, writing and production.
The one-hour drama was created by Rob Thomas and is executive produced by Thomas and Joel Silver.
"Veronica Mars" stars Kristen Bell ("Spartan," "Reefer Madness: The Movie Musical") in the title role as a high school student turned private investigator following the murder of her best friend. Veronica used to be one of the popular girls, but it all came crumbling down around her after Lilly was killed, and her then sheriff father, Keith (Enrico Colantoni - "Full Frontal), was removed from office for naming Lilly's rich dad as the lead suspect. During the day, Veronica negotiates high school like any average teenage girl. But at night, she helps with her father's struggling, new private investigator business--and what she finds may tear the seaside town of Neptune, California, apart at the seams.
In the first season finale, viewers learn ... well... watch CTV and see for yourself.
"Veronica Mars" is produced by Silver Pictures Television in association with and distributed by Warner Bros. International Television Distribution Inc. Production services provided by Stu Segall Productions Inc.
Aaaargh, they still haven't decided on when they're gonna broadcast the first season. It's still "Coming soon"... I'm *only* anticipating this because of this thread's existence and casual references to Buffy.
― alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Monday, 2 May 2005 18:55 (nineteen years ago) link
I think he did an awesome job with the veronica/logan relationship and I'm sure it won't last, even if I want it to. I watched the extended preview for tonight's episode a couple of times, and it's gonna be intense. Don't forget to watch everyone! Even though I think only Melissa and Cozen read this thread. HEY GUYS.
― gunther heartymeal (keckles), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 15:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― chiptshop, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 23:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 01:09 (nineteen years ago) link
and yes, HOLY CRAP! that was intense.
― gunther heartymeal (keckles), Thursday, 5 May 2005 02:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 5 May 2005 03:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 5 May 2005 03:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 5 May 2005 03:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 5 May 2005 03:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 5 May 2005 12:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 5 May 2005 18:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 5 May 2005 19:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 5 May 2005 19:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 5 May 2005 19:39 (nineteen years ago) link
anyway, I can't wait to watch this new holy shit episode.
― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 5 May 2005 19:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 5 May 2005 19:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 5 May 2005 19:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Oblivious Lad. (Oblivious Lad), Friday, 6 May 2005 04:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Oblivious Lad. (Oblivious Lad), Friday, 6 May 2005 04:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 08:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― gunther heartymeal (keckles), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 14:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 14:56 (nineteen years ago) link
predictions cast: veronica's mum or duncan's mum!
― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:09 (nineteen years ago) link
Phil... I think you actually mentioned that on another thread once. I've always wanted to ask you about a bunch of NYU people. But I won't on this thread because I don't want them googling!
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 22:20 (nineteen years ago) link
also gotta love the "stay tuned for next season" cliffhangers.
man, i guess they'da had to cut those if the show had been canned.
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 01:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 03:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 06:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 13:02 (nineteen years ago) link
just watched ep. 7, I think. the pregnant sarah goes missing. the bits were v. obvious.
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 02:07 (eighteen years ago) link
tep is not very good, here, and cozen is good and then bad and then, I assume, good.
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 02:13 (eighteen years ago) link
Good stuff with Weevil and Logan in that one, though.
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 03:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 07:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 13:22 (eighteen years ago) link
logan's mum's lips are ridiculous.
I like the lawyer.
other obvious and silly stuff.
― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 15:42 (eighteen years ago) link
: ((
― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 15:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 20:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 20:11 (eighteen years ago) link
maybe only the really ridiculous episodes are without obvious big bits.
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 May 2005 10:09 (eighteen years ago) link
others-air when logan and weevil are painting over the graffiti-stereophonics at the hippy commune
other others?
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 May 2005 11:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 May 2005 12:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 May 2005 12:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 19 May 2005 12:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 May 2005 13:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:35 (eighteen years ago) link
my final disc better be in my mailbox today. : )
― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 22 May 2005 06:58 (eighteen years ago) link
-> Simon R's wife is a terrific writer. I really love her articles.
I have to watch this if only because Alyson plays in this.
― nathalie's baby (stevie nixed), Sunday, 22 May 2005 07:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 22 May 2005 08:47 (eighteen years ago) link
I can't seem to download the latest episodes.
― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 May 2005 09:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Sunday, 22 May 2005 11:33 (eighteen years ago) link
my ep. 22 is jerky but apparently it is "amazing!"
― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 22 May 2005 13:23 (eighteen years ago) link
I will be pissed if this sucks.
― alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Thursday, 26 May 2005 18:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Your Little Hoodrat Friend, Monday, 30 May 2005 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Monday, 30 May 2005 22:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Monday, 30 May 2005 23:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 00:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 00:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― teeth montrose (Cozen), Monday, 6 June 2005 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― jones (actual), Monday, 6 June 2005 19:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― teeth montrose (Cozen), Monday, 6 June 2005 20:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― teeth montrose (Cozen), Monday, 6 June 2005 20:55 (eighteen years ago) link
And then they immediately move to Wednesday nights at the same time.
Catch up, people!
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 21:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 21:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 21:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 21:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 00:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― nickn (nickn), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 07:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― [that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link
And then season 2 will also premiere on Wednesdays in the fall!
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Leon C. (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Leeeeee (Leee), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 23:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― Leeeeee (Leee), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 23:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― [that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Thursday, 16 June 2005 00:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 16 June 2005 00:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― [that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Thursday, 16 June 2005 01:01 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 15 July 2005 04:22 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 15 July 2005 07:12 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 15 July 2005 07:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 15 July 2005 12:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― Leon C. (Ex Leon), Friday, 15 July 2005 12:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 15 July 2005 12:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― jeffrey (johnson), Friday, 15 July 2005 16:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― Leon C. (Ex Leon), Friday, 15 July 2005 16:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 15 July 2005 17:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ian in Brooklyn, Friday, 15 July 2005 18:29 (eighteen years ago) link
CC I never liked. She was just...off her game about 50% of the time.
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 15 July 2005 18:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― etc, Friday, 15 July 2005 21:08 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm mad the show didn't get any emmy nominations.
― gunther heartymeal (keckles), Friday, 15 July 2005 23:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― jeffrey (johnson), Saturday, 16 July 2005 00:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Friday, 5 August 2005 01:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 5 August 2005 03:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Yellow Kid, Friday, 5 August 2005 13:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Saturday, 6 August 2005 20:10 (eighteen years ago) link
Yay!
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 12 August 2005 06:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 12 August 2005 10:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― jeffrey (johnson), Friday, 12 August 2005 12:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― neptunian, Friday, 12 August 2005 17:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― gunther heartymeal (keckles), Friday, 12 August 2005 17:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― gunther heartymeal (keckles), Friday, 12 August 2005 17:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― jeffrey (johnson), Friday, 12 August 2005 18:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― jeffrey (johnson), Thursday, 22 September 2005 19:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Thursday, 22 September 2005 19:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― jeffrey (johnson), Thursday, 22 September 2005 19:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Leeeeeeeee (Leee), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― gunther heartymeal (keckles), Friday, 23 September 2005 01:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 23 September 2005 03:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Friday, 23 September 2005 03:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 23 September 2005 03:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Friday, 23 September 2005 03:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 23 September 2005 03:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Friday, 23 September 2005 03:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 23 September 2005 03:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Friday, 23 September 2005 03:27 (eighteen years ago) link
The return of V.Mars is exciting, but worrying.
― algorhythm (uzumaki), Friday, 23 September 2005 10:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― jeffrey (johnson), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Monday, 26 September 2005 02:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Monday, 26 September 2005 04:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Monday, 26 September 2005 05:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Leeeeeeeee (Leee), Monday, 26 September 2005 05:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― Pork Cheops (willpie), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― jeffrey (johnson), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 18:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― nickn (nickn), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 29 September 2005 03:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 29 September 2005 04:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 29 September 2005 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link
****spoilers****........
nice couple of plot twists in last nights episode. did not see the return-to-duncan-as-boyfriend coming at all.
logan being/hanging around the bus before it left the school is probably a little to obvious.
― drone/a/saur (william), Thursday, 29 September 2005 20:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Friday, 30 September 2005 00:57 (eighteen years ago) link
i dunno, why would he kill his friends and if they were in on it, why would blond surfer dude invite duncan and veronica?
― alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Friday, 30 September 2005 01:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 30 September 2005 01:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Friday, 30 September 2005 01:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Friday, 30 September 2005 01:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Yellow Kid, Friday, 30 September 2005 03:46 (eighteen years ago) link
OK start but I still fucking hate the duncan thing and the logan thing it is a bit boring!
"twists" about who her boyfriend is were rubbish. not at all...a surprise just an...OK.
I still like her dad. I hope their lawyer pal comes back
weevil should still get a smaller jacket
guttenberg seems to have lost almost all of whatever acting ability he had, based on his very short appearance, here, but maybe it's just his face, that is the problem. weird teeth, too
― RJG (RJG), Friday, 30 September 2005 16:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― jeffrey (johnson), Friday, 30 September 2005 17:53 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm not sure that it was an elbow song, but it wasn't very good; I like one elbow song
the duncan thing logan thing I can forgive though, it's the non-xander
weevil looked cool in the closing scenes, like someone had photoshopped his living head
all in all, I agree with rich, but raise to an interesting start, which effortlessly side-steps a lot of the concerns I had coming to the end of the first season by introducing a lot of new concerns of its own
― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 30 September 2005 19:34 (eighteen years ago) link
I meant embrace, sorry
― RJG (RJG), Friday, 30 September 2005 19:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― Leeeeeeeee (Leee), Monday, 3 October 2005 21:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Monday, 3 October 2005 21:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― jeffrey (johnson), Monday, 3 October 2005 23:05 (eighteen years ago) link
But yeah, still way way better than Lost.
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 02:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 08:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 19:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Leeeeeeeee (Leee), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 20:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 20:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 20:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― jeffrey (johnson), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 23:27 (eighteen years ago) link
Can I say whoever monkeyed with the bus, I hate you? You killed Naima!
― Leeeeeeeee (Leee), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 23:59 (eighteen years ago) link
The ep was a little uneven, but that was made up by a lot of moments of awesomeness.
Duncan/Teddy Dunn needs to get the hell off of my television screen, though.
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 6 October 2005 05:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 6 October 2005 14:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― Leeeeeeeeee (Leee), Monday, 10 October 2005 00:19 (eighteen years ago) link
I thought this ep was great - it's going to be hard for the second series to be as jaw-droppingly great as the first, given that it was new back then but it's really working on it
― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 10 October 2005 18:38 (eighteen years ago) link
Tonight's was a lot better than last week.
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 13 October 2005 03:32 (eighteen years ago) link
They've also separated the Casablancas storyline and the bus crash one (by seemingly directing it towards Aaron Echolls), at least momentarily. In fact, there hasn't been as many standalones. As a result, there are a lot of different storylines being advanced each episode, probably all towards one single denouement.
― alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Thursday, 13 October 2005 23:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 14 October 2005 00:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― gunther heartymeal (keckles), Friday, 14 October 2005 00:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Friday, 14 October 2005 03:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 14 October 2005 03:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Leeeeeeeeee (Leee), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:09 (eighteen years ago) link
I like this show! I make sure to watch it after Lost so as to end my TV night on a guaranteed high note.
― Leeeeeeeeee (Leee), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:14 (eighteen years ago) link
but was that the dandy warhols guy, lip sinking?
poor old beaver and his sad-face
― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:42 (eighteen years ago) link
Was VM this indie last season?
― Leeeeeeeeee (Leee), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Yellow Kid, Friday, 14 October 2005 17:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:53 (eighteen years ago) link
Is it just me or is the new girl from New York an atrocious actress? That's the one element that gets to me sometimes - the unmistakable air of low-budget TVdom, complete with F-list actors (Harry Hamlin, teh Guttenberg) and tiny locations. They would have been better off casting at least the latter to a complete unknown (I haven't watched my first season DVDs, maybe Hamlin's awesome). At least they don't have to skimp on monster costumes (ala Buffy on UPN).
― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― gunther heartymeal (keckles), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― jeffrey (johnson), Friday, 14 October 2005 18:27 (eighteen years ago) link
Strangely, he totally is.
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Saturday, 15 October 2005 06:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― gunther heartymeal (keckles), Saturday, 15 October 2005 15:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― jeffrey (johnson), Saturday, 15 October 2005 17:21 (eighteen years ago) link
what a mistake
― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 16 October 2005 23:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― jeffrey (johnson), Sunday, 16 October 2005 23:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Monday, 17 October 2005 06:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― Leeeeeeeeee (Leee), Monday, 17 October 2005 17:33 (eighteen years ago) link
Whoa, someone on this board knew something about me.
I like the fact that when they go to Mexico, they never go any further than Ensenada, which is basically the exact story of me and all my friends.
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Monday, 17 October 2005 18:18 (eighteen years ago) link
Do people here know that Weevil is FRANK CAPRA'S grandson?
― Leeeeeeeeee (Leee), Monday, 17 October 2005 18:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 22:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 22:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 22:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Sunday, 23 October 2005 06:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Thursday, 27 October 2005 04:00 (eighteen years ago) link
REALLY good episode, which is the par, it seems!
― Leeeeeeeeee (Leee), Thursday, 27 October 2005 04:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Thursday, 27 October 2005 04:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Mendoza Lineman (Carey), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― c7n (Cozen), Thursday, 27 October 2005 16:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― c7n (Cozen), Thursday, 27 October 2005 16:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― Mendoza Lineman (Carey), Thursday, 27 October 2005 17:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 27 October 2005 17:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Mendoza Lineman (Carey), Thursday, 27 October 2005 17:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 27 October 2005 18:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― Mendoza Lineman (Carey), Thursday, 27 October 2005 21:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Thursday, 27 October 2005 22:07 (eighteen years ago) link
Wallace dumped whatsherface, right? I already forget.
― Leeeeeeeeee (Leee), Thursday, 27 October 2005 22:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― c7n (Cozen), Friday, 28 October 2005 19:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Friday, 28 October 2005 19:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― jeffrey (johnson), Saturday, 29 October 2005 00:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Yellow Kid, Saturday, 29 October 2005 04:26 (eighteen years ago) link
ok, i don't really follow this show, clearly, but i like it, and i'd like someone to explain how veronica is so out of it.. i.e. the psychic show - "everyone at neptune high watches it!" - but veronica's unaware of its existence??
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 29 October 2005 18:16 (eighteen years ago) link
The whole thing was a set up from Jackie, but it didn't seem well planned if the whole point was to let the world know that Veronica used breast cream, that was something that Veronica told her quite late on. It seems a bit weird to plan something so meticulously yet have the whole thing rely on a piece of embarrassing information that you may never get. It wasn't brilliantly written.
― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Saturday, 29 October 2005 19:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― c7n (Cozen), Saturday, 29 October 2005 20:02 (eighteen years ago) link
xpost No it wasn't, I'm starting to think she wasn't actually in on it, as there would be no point in trying to amaze Veronica with knowledge about Lily as she'd know Veronica would work out it was a set up by the end. Maybe Jackie claimed she had known Lily and Lily had told her about the cream, as it was "Lily" who mentioned the cream when the psychic talked to Veronica.
― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Saturday, 29 October 2005 20:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 29 October 2005 20:29 (eighteen years ago) link
The intricacies of the weekly mystery never seem to fit together perfectly, but they're usually not so noticeable (as in this week, I get the point even if it's not completely sensible).
― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Saturday, 29 October 2005 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link
It did seem weird that all of Neptune watches this show, though. Logan and Duncan stop what they're doing to watch a cable-access psychic show? And I know Veronica's not part of the "in" crowd, but she is dating Duncan, you'd think she'd know about it.
― The Yellow Kid, Sunday, 30 October 2005 16:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― c7n (Cozen), Sunday, 30 October 2005 16:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Leeeeeeeeeee (Leee), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 04:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 04:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― jeffrey (johnson), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Thursday, 10 November 2005 04:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Yellow Kid, Thursday, 10 November 2005 11:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 03:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sonneywolferinecastleee (Leee), Thursday, 17 November 2005 06:49 (eighteen years ago) link
But maybe he can explain the ending of last night's show to me.
― The Yellow Kid, Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link
snail darter, a small, rare fish, Percina tanasi, discovered by a zoologist who was snorkeling in the Little Tennessee River upstream from the projected Tellico Dam. Dam opponents, including Native American tribes who would see their burial grounds flooded, fought successfully to include the darter on the Endangered Species List in 1975 (see endangered species), and the dam was halted. In 1978, the Supreme Court sided with environmentalists, but Congress declared the fish nonendangered and the Tellico was built. Snail darters are classified in the phylum Chordata, subphylum Vertebrata, class Osteichthyes, order Percomorphi, family Percidae.
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sonneywolferinecastleee (Leee), Saturday, 19 November 2005 07:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Saturday, 19 November 2005 14:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Saturday, 19 November 2005 16:34 (eighteen years ago) link
Best Veronica Mars in ages, btw, maybe ever?
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 21 November 2005 05:18 (eighteen years ago) link
Steve Guttenberg is still terrible, but I imagine the fight over his new richie-city vs. poor-county plan is going to be entertaining. Will Keith bite the hand that fed him, or will he sign on to police the city?
― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Monday, 21 November 2005 05:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 21 November 2005 05:24 (eighteen years ago) link
does anybody else think it's weird that veronica is basically dating an asshole, who we are asked to root for no less?
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 21 November 2005 19:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― jeffrey (johnson), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 01:59 (eighteen years ago) link
He is! He really scares me.
― Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 02:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 03:08 (eighteen years ago) link
Tessa is/was a terrible actress.
― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 03:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Keep the juices flowing by jangling around gentleee as you move (Leee), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 04:28 (eighteen years ago) link
I wish they'd stop saying ibeeza
― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 23:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― jeffrey (johnson), Thursday, 24 November 2005 00:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 24 November 2005 00:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 24 November 2005 01:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Thursday, 24 November 2005 02:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 24 November 2005 03:25 (eighteen years ago) link
p.s. Who gives a shit about Lost? My problem with the Wednesday 9 p.m. timeslot is that it falls at the same time as MythBusters!
― J (Jay), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:46 (eighteen years ago) link
Alternate ending of the last episode.
― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Friday, 2 December 2005 06:07 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm willing to bet the kid isn't Duncan's - it's too easy, the parallels between Duncan/Veronica and Jake/Lianne and everything. They're setting it up so that Duncan looks like a dick, but comes out clean in the end.
― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Friday, 2 December 2005 06:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Friday, 2 December 2005 19:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― Gukbe (lokar), Saturday, 3 December 2005 02:56 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm glad they didn't go that route.
― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Saturday, 3 December 2005 03:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― Keep the juices flowing by jangling around gentleee as you move (Leee), Saturday, 3 December 2005 04:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Saturday, 3 December 2005 10:34 (eighteen years ago) link
I don't know, I mean, it would involve having to actually kill someone off.
― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Saturday, 3 December 2005 21:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 4 December 2005 20:33 (eighteen years ago) link
The last two episodes have been great, if a little confusing.
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 4 December 2005 20:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― Laurel (Laurel), Sunday, 4 December 2005 20:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Sunday, 4 December 2005 20:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Sunday, 4 December 2005 21:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― jeffrey (johnson), Sunday, 4 December 2005 21:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 4 December 2005 22:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Sunday, 4 December 2005 22:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― Keep the juices flowing by jangling around gentleee as you move (Leee), Sunday, 4 December 2005 22:33 (eighteen years ago) link
xpost that too!
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 4 December 2005 22:34 (eighteen years ago) link
ASTRIDYou're right -- that is a weird question.
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 4 December 2005 22:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 4 December 2005 22:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 4 December 2005 22:42 (eighteen years ago) link
CINDYAnd bitter ranting for me!
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 4 December 2005 23:02 (eighteen years ago) link
So are Mac and the rich kid going to hit it?
― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Sunday, 4 December 2005 23:04 (eighteen years ago) link
I really really hope not.
UPN's Veronica Mars site is a joke, by the way.
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 4 December 2005 23:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 5 December 2005 13:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Thursday, 8 December 2005 03:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― gunther heartymeal (keckles), Thursday, 8 December 2005 05:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 8 December 2005 07:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 8 December 2005 07:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― c(''c) (Leee), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 01:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 05:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 09:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 15:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― gunther heartymeal (keckles), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 16:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― c(''c) (Leee), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 20:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― ShawShank Rambo Connection (Carey), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 20:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 26 January 2006 01:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 26 January 2006 01:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 26 January 2006 04:46 (eighteen years ago) link
laugh with me
― lemin (lemin), Thursday, 26 January 2006 14:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― lemin (lemin), Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 26 January 2006 19:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Monday, 30 January 2006 05:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Mary (Mary), Monday, 30 January 2006 05:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― jeffrey (johnson), Monday, 30 January 2006 20:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 2 February 2006 19:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― c(''c) (Leee), Thursday, 2 February 2006 20:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 2 February 2006 20:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― c(''c) (Leee), Thursday, 2 February 2006 20:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― willpie (willpie), Thursday, 2 February 2006 21:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― lemin (lemin), Thursday, 2 February 2006 23:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 2 February 2006 23:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Friday, 3 February 2006 00:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― gunther heartymeal (keckles), Friday, 3 February 2006 02:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Friday, 3 February 2006 03:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― jeffrey (johnson), Friday, 3 February 2006 21:47 (eighteen years ago) link
Anyhow, can someone tell me who's at her door when she opens it at the end of season 1? My assumption is that it's Duncan.
― josh in sf (stfu kthx), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 06:52 (eighteen years ago) link
Season 2 is getting really good but it took sitting through a bunch of mediocre episodes to get to this point.
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 07:34 (eighteen years ago) link
not much to add.
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 16 March 2006 04:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 16 March 2006 06:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 16 March 2006 06:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Thursday, 16 March 2006 09:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 16 March 2006 15:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 16 March 2006 15:21 (eighteen years ago) link
I thought this episode was fine, a good looking up after a rough patch. I've felt the same way as Alex, about the loss of momentum, but I think it's just in the mysteries of the week, and the terrible WHAT ABOUT THE BABY? subplot, which is thankfully (hopefully) finished. The bus crash & Logan stuff are still working for me.
― WitchBaby (witchy), Thursday, 16 March 2006 16:13 (eighteen years ago) link
I love this though: it feels true to Veronica's character (she's too cynical and wounded to ever assemble a true Scooby Gang), and to the necessities of detective work in a smallish community. And a lot of these characters are stronger for only being onscreen long enough to deliver a joke or a clue--if there was ever a "Dick Episode" his assholism would lose its charm, or it'd turn mawkish.
― WitchBaby (witchy), Thursday, 16 March 2006 16:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 16 March 2006 18:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― WitchBaby (witchy), Thursday, 16 March 2006 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Thursday, 16 March 2006 20:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Friday, 17 March 2006 02:48 (eighteen years ago) link
This episode was pretty meh. Lamb is still a fantastic character, and I liked the "Rick Santorum" thing, but the whole thing wasn't terribly intriguing or funny.
― clotpoll (Clotpoll), Friday, 17 March 2006 03:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Yellow Kid, Friday, 24 March 2006 19:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 24 March 2006 19:39 (eighteen years ago) link
I wonder if watching the first season on DVD, one after the other, colored my view of it - the writing was tighter and more cohesive, not too many characters got in the way. This year the mysteries have been boring, too many b-plots get in the way (girlfriend in a coma, etc.) and not enough screen time for Wallace.
― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Friday, 24 March 2006 19:41 (eighteen years ago) link
That said, I thought last night's episode was the best one in a real long time. All of the various subplots got an interesting scene or two, the plot-of-the-week had some twists (even if it wasn't all that interesting), and look at all the characters who showed up. Cordelia, Harry Hamlin, the lawyer guy, Vinny Van Lowe.
― The Yellow Kid, Friday, 24 March 2006 20:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Saturday, 25 March 2006 15:54 (eighteen years ago) link
i am trying very hard not to read all of this; try with me.
― tom west (thomp), Saturday, 25 March 2006 16:54 (eighteen years ago) link
i actually really liked the twelve angry men episode. just me?
season two doesn't seem so bad until i remember that the first season had the poker game / party stabbing / echolls suicide where this had the limp, limp 'donut run' deal and all the slightly inconclusive feeling stuff leading out of it. it's still, uh, 'highly watchable'. but if in season 3 they really go with having veronica go to college in her hometown (most hatable american tv readymade of them all) i very much doubt i will be able to carry on.
― tom west (thomp), Saturday, 25 March 2006 17:00 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm still enjoying this, and the guessing game of how everything's going to be resolved, although I'm guessing that the guessing will turn out to be more fun than the real ending. And I'm still worried that it's all going to be down to the secret society (and that the sheriff is a member and has framed the baseball bloke). The secret society even had a cameo the episode after I had the thought, apparently just to remind the audience that they still existed (speaking of which, continuity weirdness? Last year they were ultra secret and Veronica had never noticed the school's logo had a trident, etc, this year they streak at the school fayre and Veronica's going "oh those wacky secret society types, it just wouldn't be the school fayre if they didn't run through it naked every year").
― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Saturday, 25 March 2006 17:39 (eighteen years ago) link
So where is Neptune, precisely? Between LA and San Diego, in "Balboa County" ie Orange County? Last season Keith was a big Padres fan, now it seems there's another mysterious MLB club somewhere in the vicinity. And do OC'ers really go to San Diego more than LA, which the kids in this show seem to do? Did they shut Camp Pendleton down, turn it into a beach community?
― Sentenza says, You're not digging (witchy), Saturday, 25 March 2006 23:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― Big Willy and the Twins (miloaukerman), Thursday, 30 March 2006 00:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― horsehoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 30 March 2006 01:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Big Willy and the Twins (miloaukerman), Thursday, 30 March 2006 02:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Big Willy and the Twins (miloaukerman), Thursday, 30 March 2006 03:25 (eighteen years ago) link
seeing the arrested development guys was funny (thought george michael was gonna turn out to be the rapist, for a sec!!)
I really love the lawyer guy
this is still fun
have last nights but not seen yet
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 6 April 2006 20:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Big Willy and the Twins (miloaukerman), Thursday, 6 April 2006 20:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 6 April 2006 21:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 6 April 2006 21:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Big Willy and the Twins (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 03:00 (eighteen years ago) link
although i may have been blinded two weeks ago by michael cera - i mean, he wasn't even all that good, but, like, michael cera!
― lemin (lemin), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 03:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― lemin (lemin), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 03:21 (eighteen years ago) link
it was still very funny, though.
― horsehoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 03:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 04:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Thursday, 20 April 2006 01:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 20 April 2006 02:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Big Willy and the Twins (miloaukerman), Thursday, 20 April 2006 03:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 20 April 2006 16:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― tom west (thomp), Thursday, 20 April 2006 19:07 (eighteen years ago) link
they were just cycling through all poss baddies (w/ the weevil and w/ the gay radio kid and the pwt sister/family etcs)
despite the varying pace, ep to ep, it seems to be managing to juggle quite a few threads OK
the kendall casablancas revelation is a bit of a weird one. makes you wonder why she was hanging around w/ logan and desperate w/ duncan and stuff, when she has the fitzpatricks behind her, etc
I'm still enjoying it
wonder what happens when they graduate
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 20 April 2006 19:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― horsehoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 01:18 (eighteen years ago) link
They waited too long to wrap up too many loose ends, some things read like major deus ex machinae. Unless the season finale is like four hours long or something and then it's all good.
Did I just overestimate how close Wallace and Veronica are - what's with the "I'll miss you" speech in the hall?
― milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 02:33 (eighteen years ago) link
this season did fuck up the timing of the main arc, but this episode was decently suspenseful, so I'm hoping the finale will be, too.
― horsehoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 02:43 (eighteen years ago) link
And yeah, just being more demonstrative, and then they're presumably going to see each other at graduation/parties and during the summer.
― milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 02:52 (eighteen years ago) link
aw, graduation parties. i just had a burst of nostalgia. it's true, it was a little dramatic, which might have been hedging of bets in case the show doesn't get renewed.
― horsehoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 03:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 02:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 02:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 02:41 (eighteen years ago) link
I sort of think that the end of the episode was Veronica's dream, from the moment Keith shows up alive until the end. it was just so bizarre.
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 02:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 02:54 (eighteen years ago) link
Meg's parents hired the guy to find Woody when it became apparent that he was involved in her death. Pretty straightforward.
Just a thoroughly satisfying conclusion to a lot of plot arcs, no matter how stupid the Echolls trial happened to be.
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 04:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― drone/a/sore (drone/a/sore), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 04:23 (eighteen years ago) link
Does this mean that Duncan's baby has the clap?
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 04:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 04:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― jeffrey (johnson), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:19 (eighteen years ago) link
Too many threads wrapped up too quickly (as though this finale was for the series?!?! re: VM no longer being lock for making the CW schedule next year), which diluted the OMGness of thee BIG REVEAL. But I refuse -- nay, STRONG REFUSE to believe that Keith might have bought it and that the ending "THE MARS ARE GOING TO DELAWARE NYC!!" was a dream, even if the cinematography was washed out like her actual dream sequences in the episode. But (jone) dayam, V's heartbreak at the airport equals ~*tear*~
― c(''c) (Leee), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― J (Jay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:56 (eighteen years ago) link
I struggle to care what was in Kendall's briefcase, but I just can't. Still, I loved the finale.
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:59 (eighteen years ago) link
What would prevent them from being friends? Little Dick is not his brother's keeper.
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:30 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm almost disappointed they didn't kill him, really. It seems like that would be a radical move for a series like this. Parents die, but never ones so integral to the series and so connected to the main character - it would be like having the Cohens suddenly die on the OC.
xp - I didn't think about the public linking teh Guttenberg to the bus (only the kiddie-touching), but there's still something unexplained about that situation. Why did they bail out the crazy guy who attacked Woody's daughter?
― milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 19:05 (eighteen years ago) link
It didn't work out too well for Eight Simple Rules....
Keith and Wallace are the spiritual core of the show, imo. Killing either of them off (or getting rid of them) would be a huge mistake on RT's part.
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 19:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 19:24 (eighteen years ago) link
A few thoughts: 1) Little Dick is now going to be totally on his own, since Kendall's got money, Beav is dead, and Big Dick's MIA. Can Little Dick survive financially or otherwise in that situation? 2) Will Little Dick blame Logan and/or Veronica for Beav's death? 3) Will Logan finally wake up and grow the fuck up? (NOTE: Definitely not counting on this one!)
― J (Jay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 19:27 (eighteen years ago) link
I thought the finale was terrible, overwrought and ham-fisted where the show is usually cool with moments of genuine weirdness and terror, and far too implausible. It felt like they conveniently rewrote several characters and wrapped up too many loose ends.
"My name is CASSIDY" ugh.
― Sentenza says, You're not digging (witchy), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 21:34 (eighteen years ago) link
I guess I've arrived at a point where I've stopped expecting the show to make any sense or have any real consistency of character.
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 21:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 21:40 (eighteen years ago) link
This was the mystery though: WHY was it apparent to Meg's parents Woody was involved in the bus crash? He was never a suspect, except at Mars Investigations, and even then pretty late. And the janitor had been harassing the Goodmans for awhile. So the implication was that the cabal of parents with dead kids that was set up in the first episode knew something we were meant to find out, only... we didn't.
― Sentenza says, You're not digging (witchy), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 21:43 (eighteen years ago) link
The bit with the briefcase - really lazy way to try to create suspense. But I did like the bit in the dream at the beginning where the writers took the piss out of the parallel universe cliche where a much loved character has something horrible happen to them because a seemingly meaningless event never happened ("Wallace Fennell? You didn't hear...?")
― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 21:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sentenza says, You're not digging (witchy), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 21:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm guessing that Lamb either put out an APB for Woody in connection with the bus crash (subtlety never was his strongpoint), or actually called the Megs himself. Reno isn't his jurisdiction, so someone other than he would have to find the guy.
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 22:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 22:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― c(''c) (Leee), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 22:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 11 May 2006 00:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Thursday, 11 May 2006 01:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Thursday, 11 May 2006 02:45 (eighteen years ago) link
I didn't realise it was the finale! wasn't ready for it all to come to a head
so many diff things happening
didn't really like aaron being killed and duncan on a beach (just don't like duncan, really)
beav...
didn't see it coming at all. even thought veronica might be wrong, when she was first calling mac. so many fake outs. what a bad wee guy! thought the "my name is CASSIDY" was fine but it seemed designed to make you feel a bit "sorry" for him or "understand" him or "something" but he was just a bad wee guy, in the end
I don't think I have much more to say about the ep, just now!
however
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what are most of you guys talking about?
the beach duncan was on was one in australia like they managed to make the words on the screen say as we saw him on the beach. don't think we would have been able to see kendall and her briefcase and have the opportunity to wonder what on earth could possibly be in it (I think there's a small chance that there might have been some money in it) if it had been a dream and keith were really dead
this show would not be better, for keith dying
the move to new york looks set, w/ jackie and wallace there and veronica on her way. who else will go w/? keith? logan? v possible. less likely: cliff
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would be a shame and I would miss characters like eli and lamb and cliff and so on. I forget that there are so many characters
yeah, logan's mum could be back and veronica's, of course. someone mentioned weevil's trial for killing thumper--I never really thought he died! thought he was tied up in a toilet somewhere else, like the fpatrick bar. would they have been able to have a telly on in somewhere primed for demolition I don't really think so. the fpatricks, too--doesn't seem like there was any kind of conclusion, there, either
maybe we could have another season, in neptune, and veronica can defer entry to stanford and work a summer and we can have our loose ends tied up and free up weevil and cliff and people to move to new york
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:29 (eighteen years ago) link
I went on that tangent because I thought wallace would stay w/ jackie and because of that began thinking stanford was in new york and that it was all ready
I take back all my new york talk
jackie would be no great loss, no
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:33 (eighteen years ago) link
Not enough wonderment at my forward-thinking brane, possibly because people are hyperlink adverse, so stand in awe of me now:
I bet it was the Beave who sabotaged the bus~
-- Leeeeeeeeee (leeee...), October 9th, 2005 6:19 PM. (link)
― c(''c) (Leee), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:39 (eighteen years ago) link
well done, though!
if thumper was in the stadium, that's a bit weird
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 11 May 2006 21:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Thursday, 11 May 2006 22:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 11 May 2006 22:40 (eighteen years ago) link
sorry, again!
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 11 May 2006 22:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 11 May 2006 22:59 (eighteen years ago) link
Question: It seems pretty obvious that Veronica will be at Hearst College next year and the serial rapist story line will also show up again. Can you give us some other clues about what to look forward to next season? — Jessica
Thomas: The biggest news is that we will be going to a three-mystery-per-season format next year. This way, the mysteries will play uninterrupted by repeats or preemptions. We're hoping this will help us cast guest stars in smaller arcs, allow newbies to jump in easier, and lessen the too-much-going-on complaint we heard in Season 2.
― milo z (mlp), Thursday, 11 May 2006 23:16 (eighteen years ago) link
and yes, they fixed things so that Wallace, Veronica, and Logan will all be in Neptune next year, at the very least. Weevil will probably be in jail--sob!
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Friday, 12 May 2006 05:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Friday, 12 May 2006 06:08 (eighteen years ago) link
with this and studio 60, i really wish i had cable
― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 14:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― svend (svend), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link
KOZEN LAHREE, you could just pause the downloaded videos during breaks!
Did I mention I made out w/ KB backstage once?
― c('°c) (Leee), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― less-than three's Christiane F. (drowned in milk), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link
i hate watching them on TV though... one a week! i watched the first two seasons like six or eight episodes at a time.
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― adam (adam), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 01:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 01:12 (seventeen years ago) link
Generally pretty awesome though. Bell was in fine form.
― milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 01:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― adam (adam), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 01:34 (seventeen years ago) link
That's not really so bizarre, depending on where you live.
― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 01:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― Cunga (Cunga), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 01:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 02:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 04:05 (seventeen years ago) link
well, the bizarreness is more to do with the characters. wallace makes sense, he got a full scholarship. but for two seasons both veronica and mac both have the "can't wait to graduate and blow this town" attitude, and after all the shit that has happened to logan in neptune, why the hell would he want to go to college there?
that said, i don't really care. logan is a dickweed, but he's great to watch. and mac is v. crushworthy.
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 04:10 (seventeen years ago) link
I'll forgive a little deus ex machina when the other option is to throw out 90% of the cast and start out with just Veronica and Keith (actually, throw in Wallace and I'd be OK with that).
― milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 04:17 (seventeen years ago) link
The new version of the theme song suuuuuuuuucks.
― The Yellow Kid (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 07:40 (seventeen years ago) link
Me and my friends all had grand plans of escaping where we're from, but we didn't for a couple years. I don't think it's all that strange. Besides, Veronica's San Diego State money was spent on her mum. I miss the LeBaron.
― The Ultimate Conclusion (lokar), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 11:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 11:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 12:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― adam (adam), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 12:30 (seventeen years ago) link
The show plugged Top Model? ^_^
Slash vibes between Logan and DICK? 0_o
― c('°c) (Leee), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link
The Piz is very 'straight from the OC' isn't he?
― milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― c('°c) (Leee), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link
Whether the shorter, simpler arcs are good or bad, I dunno - time will tell. If it's dumbed down at all, boo. The biggest mis-step from S1 to 2 was making Wallace less of a featured player, but maybe that's reversing itself.
― milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link
lucky back as teaching assistant
theme tune back as bad version of theme tune
the unsolved rape stuff back as the unsolved rape stuff
logan
no cliff
etc
― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 19:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link
About Veronica being at this college, it wasn't made entirely clear, but I got the impression she traded in her school scholarship (the Kane scholarship? Or was that a different one?) for the chance to see Aaron get found guilty. She's talking a lot about how she needs to pass an exam to stay in the lead in the episode, then she skips the exam to go to the trial. So I'm guessiaccept the one the woman in the jury episode was talking about. And nevermind Neptune, why is Logan even at college at all?
I didn't like the theme tune either, and the credits were only about 4 minutes in. That feels wrong somehow.
― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 21:02 (seventeen years ago) link
I really can't believe that they had Keith buy Veronica an SUV.
― clotpoll (Clotpoll), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 21:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 23:18 (seventeen years ago) link
Fucking up the theme is like the signal move--it's like even that assurance of pep has been chopped up.
The first 15 mins did sag with exposition, but that's inevitable, introducing new people, locations, etc.
Since their doing the three mystery arcs, I think some might be thrown by a new rhythm. There isn't as much Veronica and Dad just mucking about--more fioreshadowing of some big badnesses to come.
This one ep packed ALOT into 40 air minutes: the expo, dad's friend's deal, Kendall (maybe) getting shot, Dad getting shot, Dick all bloodied up after doing fuck knows what, about which you KNOW Logan is gonna do something that will screw up him and Veronica. And we haven't even gotten to whatever awful thing happened to Weevil.
I'd say that's some well-stocked entertainment.
― Grey, Ian (IanBrooklyn), Thursday, 5 October 2006 03:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 5 October 2006 04:14 (seventeen years ago) link
yeah not sure what happened in the end though
liam had hired other PI to find kendall/cormac obviously but it is unclear who cormac shot
he said kendall wasn't such a good judge of character: he thinks keith led liam there and then cormac had to shoot liam/he said kendall wasn't such a good judge of character: he shot kendall? suppose the 2nd doesn't really make much sense
weird though
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 5 October 2006 07:43 (seventeen years ago) link
Hi RJG!
― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 5 October 2006 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Thursday, 5 October 2006 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― Pork Cheops (willpie), Friday, 6 October 2006 00:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Friday, 6 October 2006 01:07 (seventeen years ago) link
― disappointing goth fest line-up (orion), Friday, 6 October 2006 01:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Friday, 6 October 2006 02:17 (seventeen years ago) link
so cormac shot kendall because she could finger him for more jailtime?
and that was keith's gun he had? wonder why he let keith go out instead of just shooting them both in the house. so there would be a story I suppose
hi mary!
― RJG (RJG), Friday, 6 October 2006 07:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Friday, 6 October 2006 11:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 6 October 2006 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 6 October 2006 16:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Friday, 6 October 2006 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― gunther heartymeal (keckles), Friday, 6 October 2006 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link
v sad
― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Friday, 6 October 2006 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Yellow Kid (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 6 October 2006 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 6 October 2006 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― c('°c) (Leee), Friday, 6 October 2006 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link
LIES!
― The Ultimate Conclusion (lokar), Friday, 6 October 2006 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link
it was not particularly good, but season openers are hard. and college just doesn't work as well as high school as allegory-for-life.
and it's true, it didn't look or feel noir-y enough. the tone was way too sunny for most of it. also, I hate Mac. am I supposed to like Mac? that comment she made about her roommate having a tip jar + being mean to her perfectly nice adoptive parents because they don't have money=she sucks.
I'm hoping this I-don't-give-a-shit-about-anything vibe Veronica's giving off is going to crumple soon, but I don't want it to be this Piz guy who makes it happen.
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Saturday, 7 October 2006 13:53 (seventeen years ago) link
The backstage part was true!
― c('°c) (Leee), Monday, 9 October 2006 15:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― c('°c) (Leee), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link
Also, redheaded sorority chick is hot.
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link
The Stanford Experiment story was nicely done, but it felt forced a bit.
And am i the only one who doesn't care much for Keith story so far?
The credits started too soon, and new version of the song sucks. Actually i liked till the very last bit where it kinda ruins the whole thing for you.
― scnnr drkly (scnnr drkly), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link
Also, I love the Battlestar Galactica references.
― Hanna (Hanna), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 21:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― Hanna (Hanna), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 23:14 (seventeen years ago) link
Then, it got better. Although I kinda of hate guilty Veronica.
― J (Jay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 00:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― c('°c) (Leee), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― J (Jay), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 00:59 (seventeen years ago) link
I don't know, this story arc just seems so much more a trifle than the previous seasons. The major characters are barely involved at all. The first season's plot was so epic by comparison.
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 04:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link
Good episode. I know the first major mystery seems a bit downplayed, but they're fighting to get new viewers. I like the mysterys-of-the-week.
― The Ultimate Conclusion (lokar), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― c('°c) (Leee), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 18:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― gunther heartymeal (keckles), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 19:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 19:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― Pork Cheops (willpie), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 23:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Thursday, 19 October 2006 01:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Thursday, 19 October 2006 02:28 (seventeen years ago) link
This episode was alright. The use of "Hold On Hold On" made me happy, and Veronica's complete hatred of painter-stalker guy cracked me up. Her sudden realization that tracing Logan's car was a mistake was highly lame, though.
― clotpoll (Clotpoll), Thursday, 19 October 2006 05:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Thursday, 19 October 2006 12:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Thursday, 19 October 2006 12:51 (seventeen years ago) link
Weevil, Junior Veronica Mars Detective was awesome and so sad to see it end (presumably) so soon.
― c('°c) (Leee), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Thursday, 19 October 2006 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link
I kind of hated the Logan/Veronica business in this episode, right up until the final scenes in the library, and then I gave in to the sentimental romance and got all teary-eyed.
Love that Weevil is back, and yeah I think they could have let him be mini-detective for at least a couple of episodes...
― Hanna (Hanna), Thursday, 19 October 2006 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Friday, 20 October 2006 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link
I know, right? this show has weird gender politics. I used to chalk it up to the noir thing, but it hasn't even been that noir this season.
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Friday, 20 October 2006 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― Mary (Mary), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― c('°c) (Leee), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 02:02 (seventeen years ago) link
what the fuck kind of feminists don't want to know who's actually responsible for a rape. absurd strawman feminists, that's who.
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 02:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 02:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Thursday, 26 October 2006 00:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 26 October 2006 01:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― J (Jay), Thursday, 26 October 2006 12:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― Hanna (Hanna), Thursday, 2 November 2006 00:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jimmy_tango (Jimmy_tango), Thursday, 2 November 2006 01:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― clotpoll (Clotpoll), Thursday, 2 November 2006 04:38 (seventeen years ago) link
Cliff!!!
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 2 November 2006 07:03 (seventeen years ago) link
Piz is still the suck, however.
― c('°c) (Leee), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link
Since they talked about there being no physical evidence in this ep I'm afraid it's going to turn out that the feminists were the culprits in all of the rapes in some crazyass attempt to get rid of the greek system.
― Beth S. (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 21:07 (seventeen years ago) link
― lemin (lemin), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 9 November 2006 00:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 9 November 2006 01:22 (seventeen years ago) link
It's getting different to remember the huge influx of minor characters, and the relationships they all forged with Veronica 5 episodes ago before never being mentioned again until now. The Jewish kid and the lad who bullied him in the second episode got another mention too, so they'll be back to carry on that storyline at least 5 episodes after it was started. They should stick to a few short term story arcs that last 4 or 5 episodes instead of trying to fit so many in at the same time and jumping between them.
― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Thursday, 9 November 2006 02:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 9 November 2006 03:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Thursday, 9 November 2006 03:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― clotpoll (Clotpoll), Thursday, 9 November 2006 04:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Friday, 10 November 2006 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link
Typo or The Office reference?
― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 10 November 2006 20:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― ^@^ (map), Friday, 10 November 2006 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Friday, 10 November 2006 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 10 November 2006 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link
second biggest is chubby, acned weevil.
― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Friday, 10 November 2006 22:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Friday, 10 November 2006 22:59 (seventeen years ago) link
The CW network has extended the lives of two of its shows, college detective Veronica Mars and teen drama One Tree Hill. Both shows have been given orders for three more episodes apiece.
Mars has held steady since its third-season premier in October, matching its series-best ratings and retaining much of its Gilmore Girls lead-in. At the TCA in July, show-runner Rob Thomas said he was "acting like man who had been given a full season order."
Hill has seen ratings growth this season, retaining almost 90 percent of its America's Next Top Model lead-in teen audience. The show beat Fox's The O.C. last week in adults 18 to 49, with a 1.6 rating/4 share and has improved 14 percent in the demo compared to last year.
Both Mars and Hill had been on the bubble when The WB and UPN merged into The CW in the spring. Fans breathed easy when they both made the cut to the new network, but the CW hasn't broken out in the ratings as had hoped, and the shows aren't out of the woods yet.
The CW was expected to reap the rewards of having the combined fans of the highest-rated shows from each of the former networks. Instead, the new net pulls in about the same exact amount of viewers as either of those networks did by themselves.
― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Friday, 10 November 2006 23:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― c('°c) (Leee), Friday, 10 November 2006 23:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 10 November 2006 23:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Friday, 10 November 2006 23:51 (seventeen years ago) link
this show used to have a bad theme tune then I began to like it but now it is v rubbish
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 08:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 09:24 (seventeen years ago) link
that episode was lame.
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 04:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 04:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 04:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― clotpoll (Clotpoll), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 05:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― svend (svend), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 05:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― J (Jay), Saturday, 18 November 2006 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link
― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Saturday, 18 November 2006 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link
The quippery was fantastic, the MOTW was fun, finally some real Veronica/Logan-puppy chemistry, and PATTY HEARST.
I can't believe nobody's bothered to post about this yet.
― J (Jay), Thursday, 23 November 2006 16:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― J (Jay), Thursday, 23 November 2006 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 23 November 2006 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― J (Jay), Thursday, 23 November 2006 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 23 November 2006 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link
― clotpoll (Clotpoll), Thursday, 23 November 2006 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link
wallace is being severely underused, veronica is different--she is too mean and jumps to too many stupid conclusions
didn't think it was funny, when they were laughing at the male rape (v said, at one point, that it wasn't funny or something but, at many points, joined in on the joking)
also...nothing is happening! meanwhile, this season story arc, that we were told would be played down or less important, trudges on, v slowly and boringly
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 23 November 2006 19:23 (seventeen years ago) link
the pacing this season has been odd (i'm chalking at least part of it up to the unsureness-of-its-future that torpedoed arrested development's third season) but shit, it's still miles and miles better than gilmore girls this season.
― maura (maura), Thursday, 23 November 2006 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 23 November 2006 19:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 20:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link
tonight is a mac heavy episode, so that's a plus.
― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 21:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 21:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 21:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link
i should write a competent sentence.
― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― c(°°c) (Leee), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 22:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 23:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Ultimate Conclusion (lokar), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 23:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 23:10 (seventeen years ago) link
Mac-y O!
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 03:12 (seventeen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 03:13 (seventeen years ago) link
I would have liked this episode better without the Veronica/Logan re-hookup, though. the mystery wasn't particularly interesting, but the writing was pretty snappy. Mac's new boy could be Adrian Grenier's little brother. Is he?
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 03:19 (seventeen years ago) link
― svend (svend), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 05:45 (seventeen years ago) link
It's been so long since the first half of the season, I can barely remember what I disliked. Veronica/Logan crap was definitely up there.
― milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 05:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Yellow Kid (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 20:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link
Plus season 2 is much better than season 1. Not so much Duncan.
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 20:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 20:38 (seventeen years ago) link
season three just v v bad
― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link
looks rubbish at first watch and for a while after, but then the revisionists will come along and it will actually be better.
― The Ultimate Conclusion (lokar), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Ultimate Conclusion (lokar), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 21:20 (seventeen years ago) link
It's like the whole thing is in a holding pattern - nothing ever changes. Veronica and Logan are together - they break up - they're together - they angst over it - will they break up - Pizz looks hopeful - Pizz looks hurt. There's nothing tying it all together, and every episode seems like it could be the same (except for the woeful rape mystery they began with) I really don't think the writers know what to do.
There were loads of highs and lows before - you always knew a good episode wold come along, or at least something with lots of twists and mystery and intrigue... now it's just like a dull hum in the background, and a twisty story about a monkey. And, does anyone care? There's no real narrative thread and even the Cyrus murder was barely there.
This is totally dif to Buffy season 4, cos that at least had some sense of direction and change - maybe in ways people didn't like, but it was going somewhere. This show seems to be ambling slowly, ever so slowly, to a nothing conclusion - and the fact they're ending the season with five one offs seems to be indicative of that.
― Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 23:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 23:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― c(,,c) (Leee), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 23:21 (seventeen years ago) link
keith asking veronica where weevil was scene > veronica & mac's first PHAT meeting scene > keith & weevil in the dean's office scene > veronica & mac's second PHAT meeting scene > veronica arriving home to find keith standing in silence worrying about the dean's scotch scene
― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 23:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Thursday, 25 January 2007 00:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 25 January 2007 01:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 25 January 2007 02:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― clotpoll (Clotpoll), Thursday, 25 January 2007 03:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 25 January 2007 03:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 25 January 2007 04:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Thursday, 25 January 2007 04:37 (seventeen years ago) link
and the fact they're ending the season with five one offs seems to be indicative of that.
That isn't their fault. the network won't give them the two final episodes, at least not in enough time to properly set up the final arc I assume.
― The Ultimate Conclusion (lokar), Thursday, 25 January 2007 04:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 25 January 2007 04:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― clotpoll (Clotpoll), Thursday, 25 January 2007 07:56 (seventeen years ago) link
I'd take more new stuff, more Wallace for sure, more anything, I'd like to see them trying something - just to fill all this empty space they seem to have going on.
― Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Thursday, 25 January 2007 11:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link
the mystery of the week is that a monkey and some rats have been stolen from a medical research lab on campus. Veronica enlists Mac to go undercover with the campus PETA-esque animal rights group ("PHAT") to find out if they liberated the animals. that turns out to be a dead-end, but the leader of the group, an Adrian Grenier lookalike, takes a liking to Mac, and after various roadblocks, they set up a first date and kiss (aw!) this is significant because of Mac being all gunshy because of Beaver last year. it turns out one of the labworkers liberated the monkey himself, and Veronica doesn't rat him out, but her attempt to save the monkey's life (the subjects of research are all eventually killed so they can be autopsied) proves futile, as the scientist in charge just decides to special order another monkey.
Logan and Veronica mope about each other separately all episode. Logan has meaningless sex with a girl we're meant to find trashy. there's a conversation between Veronica and Piz about not being willing to date just anyone and it seems like they might be on the very boring road to hookup, but instead, in the next scene, Veronica shows up on Logan's door, they look all stricken roadkill at each other for like an hour and then start making out. (most annoying moment of the episode in my eyes.)
I think that's it. scenes from next week indicate even more Logan Veronica drama in exactly the same mold as the goddamn rest of the season.
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 25 January 2007 20:05 (seventeen years ago) link
But generally, S3 is bumming me out.
― J (Jay), Friday, 26 January 2007 01:08 (seventeen years ago) link
From what I've heard it's more likely to be post-college, Veronica and Keith trying to make a go of it as a mismatched father and daughter detective duo. Which would be no great shame. I don't know if I've ever been so upset by a tv show as I was at the end of series 2 when it looked like Keith might have been blown out of the sky by the little guy. So, yeah, he should stay.
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 26 January 2007 01:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 26 January 2007 04:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Friday, 26 January 2007 09:04 (seventeen years ago) link
No matter how bad it gets, I'll keep watching for "tell me he plays the piano."
The only way to salvage this and any future seasons is to kill the Logan-Veronica relationship.
― milo z (mlp), Saturday, 27 January 2007 06:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Ultimate Conclusion (lokar), Saturday, 27 January 2007 20:11 (seventeen years ago) link
OTM. Also, more Vinnie Van Lowe.
― The Yellow Kid (The Yellow Kid), Sunday, 28 January 2007 09:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― gunther heartymeal (keckles), Monday, 29 January 2007 03:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Monday, 29 January 2007 03:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Monday, 29 January 2007 03:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― gunther heartymeal (keckles), Monday, 29 January 2007 04:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Monday, 29 January 2007 05:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 22:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Yellow Kid (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 23:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― clotpoll (Clotpoll), Thursday, 1 February 2007 00:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― c(,,c) (Leee), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link
I haven't seen this episode yet.
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― be home by 11 (orion), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link
I mean, Bell can make a whole lot of stuff seem convincingly awesome, but then there are certain things that are just ... and then she hits them so valiantly and confidently anyway.
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:54 (seventeen years ago) link
Strangely, I don't think I've seen her much in any kind of non-acting setting: I think I only saw one half-minute interview clip when the show debuted, in which she seemed ... really hard-assed, actually.
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:59 (seventeen years ago) link
Umm, goony:
http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/images2/reefermadness.jpg
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 1 February 2007 19:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Thursday, 1 February 2007 19:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Thursday, 1 February 2007 19:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 1 February 2007 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― c(,,c) (Leee), Thursday, 1 February 2007 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― c(,,c) (Leee), Thursday, 1 February 2007 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Thursday, 1 February 2007 19:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Thursday, 1 February 2007 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― c(,,c) (Leee), Thursday, 1 February 2007 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 1 February 2007 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Thursday, 1 February 2007 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― clotpoll (Clotpoll), Thursday, 1 February 2007 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Thursday, 1 February 2007 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link
An airline round-trip ticket will be provided from any city in the continental U.S. that is served by Southwest Airlines. The winner will be picked up at the airport in San Diego and taken directly to the set.
http://www.usvetsinc.org/
― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Friday, 2 February 2007 00:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― m@p (plosive), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― m@p (plosive), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― N.i.c.o.l.e (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 22:50 (seventeen years ago) link
i watch for criminal misuse of keith and wallace
i watch for piz's hair
― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 23:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 23:15 (seventeen years ago) link
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― The Ultimate Conclusion (lokar), Thursday, 8 February 2007 01:31 (seventeen years ago) link
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― milo z (mlp), Thursday, 8 February 2007 02:06 (seventeen years ago) link
i was trying the other day to remember what it was we agreed on that one time. do you remember?
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 8 February 2007 02:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Thursday, 8 February 2007 02:12 (seventeen years ago) link
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― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Thursday, 8 February 2007 02:21 (seventeen years ago) link
I actually think the "rich vs. poor" thing is an oversimplified way to see Neptune -- now we get all the college vs. town stuff, Lamb having to suck up to some college people but loving to bust college students, the way others look at Veronica for being a commuter student, etc.
Cousin Larry I think there is a show you would like, it is called Kiss My Ass.
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 8 February 2007 02:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Thursday, 8 February 2007 02:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 8 February 2007 02:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Ultimate Conclusion (lokar), Thursday, 8 February 2007 03:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Thursday, 8 February 2007 14:43 (seventeen years ago) link
I had that same feeling when I saw Sarah Michelle Gellar on a talk show for the first time, after watching Buffy for awhile.
― alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Saturday, 10 February 2007 22:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― Melissa W, Friday, 16 March 2007 04:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― ian, Friday, 16 March 2007 04:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z, Friday, 16 March 2007 04:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe, Friday, 16 March 2007 05:07 (seventeen years ago) link
― ian, Friday, 16 March 2007 05:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― Melissa W, Friday, 16 March 2007 05:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe, Friday, 16 March 2007 05:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― s.clover, Friday, 16 March 2007 11:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― J, Friday, 16 March 2007 13:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― Leee, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― clotpoll, Monday, 19 March 2007 04:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― Simon H., Monday, 19 March 2007 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― Stevie D, Sunday, 1 April 2007 09:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― s.clover, Sunday, 1 April 2007 09:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― V, Sunday, 1 April 2007 11:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― Leee, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link
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― Nicole, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:11 (seventeen years ago) link
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― milo z, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link
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― milo z, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― Hanna, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:38 (seventeen years ago) link
it's still a really good show.
― milo z, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― Leee, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― Hanna, Thursday, 3 May 2007 10:07 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dimension 5ive, Thursday, 3 May 2007 12:46 (seventeen years ago) link
that scene where V fell in slow motion
― Leee, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dimension 5ive, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― RJG, Friday, 4 May 2007 12:51 (seventeen years ago) link
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― horseshoe, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― RJG, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dimension 5ive, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― Leee, Friday, 4 May 2007 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link
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― Tracer Hand, Friday, 4 May 2007 16:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― goth casual, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 19:43 (sixteen years ago) link
― Alex in Baltimore, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 19:48 (sixteen years ago) link
― Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 19:50 (sixteen years ago) link
― wanko ergo sum, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 20:21 (sixteen years ago) link
― goth casual, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 20:31 (sixteen years ago) link
― Melissa W, Thursday, 17 May 2007 02:16 (sixteen years ago) link
― maura, Thursday, 17 May 2007 05:10 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh man, I can totally update my "21st century so far" list: 1. Robot hegemony 2. Monkey comeback 3. Re-established robot hegemony 4. Zombie revolution (zombies in, robots out) 5. Failed undercurrent of pirate 6. Wizard remains confined to child-fan ghetto 7. Ninja resurgence 8. Skanks 9. Cowboys 10. SPARTANS (I totally failed to predict this) New predictions: 1. Skank oversaturation 2. Marines 3. Vikings (with a bullet) 4. Bike cops 5. Ghost comeback 6. Skank backlash Classics holding strong: 1. Douchebags -- nabisco, Thursday, 5 April 2007 08:18
― nabisco, Thursday, 17 May 2007 06:42 (sixteen years ago) link
― C. Grisso/McCain, Thursday, 17 May 2007 16:28 (sixteen years ago) link
The new "Gossip Girl," about a group of prep school teenagers in Manhattan, will be given the biggest push. The CW scheduled it for Wednesdays at 9 p.m. after its top-rated program, "America's Next Top Model." The CW's only new comedy, "Aliens in America," is about a high school student trying to adjust to a Pakistani exchange student. "Life is Wild" is a drama about a New York City family spending a year at a game reserve in South Africa The new drama "Reaper" features one of the CW's oldest new characters: a 21-year-old. His parents sold his soul to the devil and he's assigned to track down evil escapees from hell. On Sunday nights, the network will debut "The CW Now," an entertainment-oriented newsmagazine for 18-to-34-year-olds. "Online Nation" will talk about what's hot on the Web. In midseason, the CW will bring on a reality show, "Farmer Wants a Wife," about a country guy choosing among 10 women fed up with big-city prospects.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 May 2007 16:33 (sixteen years ago) link
― Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 17 May 2007 16:35 (sixteen years ago) link
― Rock Hardy, Thursday, 17 May 2007 16:39 (sixteen years ago) link
― RJG, Thursday, 17 May 2007 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 17 May 2007 16:54 (sixteen years ago) link
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― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 17 May 2007 17:09 (sixteen years ago) link
― RJG, Thursday, 17 May 2007 17:11 (sixteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 17 May 2007 17:14 (sixteen years ago) link
― nabisco, Thursday, 17 May 2007 17:18 (sixteen years ago) link
― Yerac, Thursday, 17 May 2007 18:50 (sixteen years ago) link
― Virginia Plain, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:35 (sixteen years ago) link
― RJG, Thursday, 17 May 2007 22:19 (sixteen years ago) link
― HPSCHD, Thursday, 17 May 2007 22:30 (sixteen years ago) link
― RJG, Thursday, 17 May 2007 22:59 (sixteen years ago) link
― gershy, Friday, 18 May 2007 03:26 (sixteen years ago) link
― Melissa W, Friday, 18 May 2007 05:46 (sixteen years ago) link
― V, Friday, 18 May 2007 12:48 (sixteen years ago) link
macx?
― RJG, Friday, 18 May 2007 20:06 (sixteen years ago) link
Shit. That finale actually demonstrated a bit of S1-style brilliance.
― J, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 02:00 (sixteen years ago) link
the mets get clobbered by the braves and veronica mars ends with an episode that brings back the ******s
what a shitastic end to a craptastic day
― maura, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 02:06 (sixteen years ago) link
dear maura an' j - can you tell me how they can end it. like. that?
― BleepBot, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 02:54 (sixteen years ago) link
total bummer.
― s.clover, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 02:57 (sixteen years ago) link
guys what happened???
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 02:57 (sixteen years ago) link
wow
― Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 04:26 (sixteen years ago) link
It was so cruel for them to end with an ep that so reminded me of why I so love this show.
― i, grey, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 07:53 (sixteen years ago) link
damn yall, i am now totally tempted to order this. it's import so hellaexpensive but i am craving for some veronica mars.
― nathalie, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 08:07 (sixteen years ago) link
Can any Europeans on this thread tell me if they have the region 1 version of season 1, and if it works? I've heard people saying that it works on region 2 players despite being labelled region 1, but I want to be sure.
― V, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 11:01 (sixteen years ago) link
I have the region 1 and 2 boxes and it works on my UK player - there is usually a simple, googleable hack to make your DVD player multi-region.
― Stevie T, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 11:06 (sixteen years ago) link
(region 1 boxes for seasons 1 and 2 I mean)
― Stevie T, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 11:07 (sixteen years ago) link
Thank god I didn't press order: I didn't know there was a reg.1&2.
― nathalie, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 11:29 (sixteen years ago) link
Never seen this -- worth renting the first season DVD?
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 19:10 (sixteen years ago) link
No, because you will be so heartbroken and distraught that the subsequent seasons are sooooo awful in comparison to the utopian splendour of season 1 that the difference will cause you to wish you'd never seen the show and then kill yourself, or failing that, complain on a message board.
― Leee, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 19:14 (sixteen years ago) link
Ignore Leee, he's a whiner. Rent it.
― J, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 19:17 (sixteen years ago) link
wow, what a bleak ending.
― goth casual, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 19:26 (sixteen years ago) link
It's actually an incredibly bleak show, under the sun and quips.
― i, grey, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 20:25 (sixteen years ago) link
Thanks for the recommendation, Lee!
(Goes to video store.)
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 20:44 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh, this show remembered how to be good, right at the end! I felt like it was actually better when it came back after the break.
Did anybody else feel like they were almost shopping it around to be picked up for another season by somebody else? I don't really know if that's likely or what's gone on or anything - it just all felt like set up to me. I wish we'd had some stuff like that from the beginning of series 3, that would have set the whole thing up well.
― Suedey, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link
Rob Thomas is already talking a VM feature film ala Firefly/Serenity tradition.
― i, grey, Thursday, 24 May 2007 03:52 (sixteen years ago) link
I am excited, if there's no Logan. Please God let them ditch Logan.
― milo z, Thursday, 24 May 2007 19:22 (sixteen years ago) link
I was actually just remarking that I could get down with a spinoff of Logan and Dick (no homo).
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link
those two were depressingly good. reminders of s1 brilliance OTM.
― Gukbe, Thursday, 24 May 2007 21:23 (sixteen years ago) link
I think my post was too high-concept!
― Leee, Friday, 25 May 2007 01:35 (sixteen years ago) link
very crap
― RJG, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 20:47 (sixteen years ago) link
I am in love with Logan.
― marianna lcl, Sunday, 24 June 2007 22:28 (sixteen years ago) link
no !
― RJG, Sunday, 24 June 2007 22:38 (sixteen years ago) link
My TiVO deleted the second storyline, I think, but I started on the last group of eps (with the Arab family) and it was really, really good. Looking forward to a more-Logan-free last six or seven.
― milo z, Sunday, 24 June 2007 23:07 (sixteen years ago) link
! no
― RJG, Sunday, 24 June 2007 23:13 (sixteen years ago) link
it's really sad that i hate this now.
― Dy, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 01:01 (sixteen years ago) link
I've finished watching all three series over the past couple of weeks. Marathon! I understand the flaws, but I still love, love, love it. And Logan - swoon! My kind of bo-hunk. Veronica's sarcasm did get a bit too bitchy towards the end, though. But I've perfected the braid from one side of the head to the other hairstyle that she'd been rocking.
― marianna lcl, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 10:55 (sixteen years ago) link
Maybe my expectations were too high, so I need to get into it more, but I definitely do NOT regret having ordered this. We're watching two eps an evening (and have to resist watching more). Also, (to self) do NOT read too much of this thread. :-)
― nathalie, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 12:09 (sixteen years ago) link
UK folks, series one is repeated on Living TV: weeknights at 2am, from Thursday the 19th of July onwards.
― marianna lcl, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 15:01 (sixteen years ago) link
Veronica is the final Cylon.
― Leee, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 18:15 (sixteen years ago) link
Ha man okay this is the second time in my life I feel weird for pointing this out, but:
bo-hunk = old American ethnic slur for eastern Europeans!
beau or hunk = better suited!
― nabisco, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 18:20 (sixteen years ago) link
Actually the proper term for Logan is Scientologo-hunk.
― Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 18:27 (sixteen years ago) link
jason BORING
jason GOERING
jason D'OH RINGWORM
jason MORON
― RJG, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 18:43 (sixteen years ago) link
was just talking about "bo-hunk", the other day
― RJG, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 18:44 (sixteen years ago) link
I watched the last four eps of season 1. I feel like a giddy teeenager now. Not completely, but the LoVe (hah!) romance really pushed the 15 year old teen button in me. I think this is what appeals to me so much, the fact they push several age buttons (for me anyway).
I checked and it's impossible to import season 3 boxset from amazon.co.uk. :-( How oh how will I survive after watching S2. I don't really care whether S2 is up to scratch, I am already more than happy with S1's brilliance.
― nathalie, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 08:20 (sixteen years ago) link
I also feel ike a bit of a twit for posting on a thread that is about a cancelled show. :-(
― nathalie, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 08:23 (sixteen years ago) link
I had a dream the other night that I got into a bit of a mix - someone was blackmailing me over old videos they were going to send to my boyfriend. And I remember distinctly saying "I need to get Veronica Mars's help!"
― marianna lcl, Friday, 20 July 2007 12:16 (sixteen years ago) link
I dreamt I was swimming with Weevil. God, I'm going completely gaga over this show. That said, the S2 finale was... hmmm. I'm having withdrawel effects already. I solved this more or less by learning how to use BitTorrent and downloaded S3 (whichI will buy anyway once it's out in the US in October).
― nathalie, Friday, 20 July 2007 12:20 (sixteen years ago) link
Nat, I'm genuinely pleased you love it.
― marianna lcl, Friday, 20 July 2007 12:26 (sixteen years ago) link
S3 : (
― RJG, Friday, 20 July 2007 14:44 (sixteen years ago) link
just starting disk 5 of season one (thanks jerry)
rofled at the eighties disco and the pretty in pink homage.
did read something the other week that seemed to pour scorn on anyone over the age of 25 watching veronica mars though. pah.
― koogs, Thursday, 26 July 2007 13:57 (sixteen years ago) link
Probably a zitty 13 year old. Who cares? That's like saying a 50 year old can't enjoy Teen Pop. I mean, how do they explain Rob Thomas' talent with/enjoying this type of stuff?
I'm still bittorrenting (is that even a verb) S3. I managed to do it but the first two eps were fucked. So I have to start all over. And then register DVD creator. I had to up my transfer limit on my DSL account... twice. hah.
Can you tell I'm psyched?
― nathalie, Thursday, 26 July 2007 14:00 (sixteen years ago) link
http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/51kxPGQOGGL._AA240_.jpg
Just got this book! I'm so excited!
― nathalie, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 13:45 (sixteen years ago) link
No wonder 'Ronnie could solve all those crimes: she's a dirty mutie!
― Leee, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 19:27 (sixteen years ago) link
So she's going to appear in Lost.
― stevienixed, Friday, 24 August 2007 11:16 (sixteen years ago) link
no, heroes
― Gukbe, Friday, 24 August 2007 11:19 (sixteen years ago) link
Urgh that Neptune Noir book is terrible, Nathalie!
― Stevie T, Friday, 24 August 2007 11:21 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh shit. hahah First I mistype it and second of all I should have clicked that link.
Is it that bad? Oh crap. :-(
― nathalie, Friday, 24 August 2007 11:25 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh, what could've been.
― Leee, Thursday, 22 November 2007 18:40 (sixteen years ago) link
I dare not watch it because I fear I'll fall into a deep depression if I do. Damn I miss that show. :-(
― nathalie, Friday, 23 November 2007 08:23 (sixteen years ago) link
No Keith, no Logan, no deal.
― marianna lcl, Friday, 23 November 2007 10:37 (sixteen years ago) link
no Logan would have been the best thing they could do for the show
― milo z, Friday, 23 November 2007 16:27 (sixteen years ago) link
I'd've been bummed about the lack of Keith in the show, although they could've plausibly kept him in the cast way more easily than Logan or any of VM's other high school/college classmates. I really wish they'd gotten the go-ahead to do that Season 4, even if it wouldn't have worked and been cancelled a year later, I really like the idea of a show like that just jumping ahead a few years in the chronology.
― Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 23 November 2007 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link
Do we know that there wouldn't have been any Keith? He's not in that promo, but she's still in LA so we could see Keith, Wallace, Weevil without much trouble. Also, I guess, Logan, but it really would have been great to move on from that story line (though apparently she was just going to do the same dance with FBI Logan).
soon to be jumping ahead in the chronology: One Tree Hill!
― milo z, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:43 (sixteen years ago) link
I want to mount Kristen Bell....she'd be tied up of course
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 24 November 2007 15:11 (sixteen years ago) link
Waht, teh roofies sub-plot wasn't enuff for yoos?
― ian, Saturday, 24 November 2007 16:03 (sixteen years ago) link
-- Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 19:10 (8 months ago) Link
-- Leee, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 19:14 (8 months ago) Link
So I finally rented Season 1... Awesome fun. Dare I continue? Does the show really get that bad? Or are the internet-posters just being too... internet-poster-y about it?
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 3 February 2008 01:04 (sixteen years ago) link
Season 2 had its charms, but it seemed annoyingly jerky and tossed-off compared to the impeccably paced and plotted season 1. After watching it we had no desire to get season 3.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 3 February 2008 01:59 (sixteen years ago) link
Total agreement.
The filmed pilot for season 4 was pretty good, though.
― polyphonic, Sunday, 3 February 2008 02:03 (sixteen years ago) link
I actually thought season 2 was pretty great, albeit a little over-ambitious, but I'm afraid to see season 3.
― Simon H., Sunday, 3 February 2008 02:12 (sixteen years ago) link
it's all good, go for it and don't be all 'OMG SHARK JUMP' about it
― Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 3 February 2008 02:20 (sixteen years ago) link
Latter half of the third season an improvement on the second season, first half about the same as S2.
Neither is as good as the first, but still better than most TV.
― milo z, Sunday, 3 February 2008 02:33 (sixteen years ago) link
We've been watching season 3 and it's really not as bad as people make it out to be. Definitely not as compelling as the first two, but still worth watching. And Dick suddenly becomes hilarious and awesome.
― lindseykai, Sunday, 3 February 2008 02:36 (sixteen years ago) link
Season 2 drags a lot in the middle but easily redeems itself by the end, and the last few episodes of series 3 (after the long term story arcs are over) are still pretty great.
― limón, Sunday, 3 February 2008 03:32 (sixteen years ago) link
I just watched all three seasons last month and yeah, season 3 was a real drag at the start, but started getting a bit better with the second mystery arc and then the last four or so episodes were pretty brilliant. I liked where they were going with it and wished that there had been a proper season 4 - the original outline of season 4, not the FBI one.
and yeah, I agree with everyone who says that while seasons 2 and 3 aren't great compared to season 1, it's still miles better than your average TV show.
― Roz, Sunday, 3 February 2008 03:51 (sixteen years ago) link
OTfM. Except for the part about Dick being awesome; Dick was and will never be anything remotely approaching "awesome"
― Stevie D, Sunday, 3 February 2008 06:14 (sixteen years ago) link
I think season 3 Dick is pretty funny as predictable but ultimately harmless asshole. Although emo Dick, like emo Logan, sucks.
― Roz, Sunday, 3 February 2008 06:28 (sixteen years ago) link
I miss this show :(
― baaderonixx, Monday, 26 May 2008 10:22 (fifteen years ago) link
best tv station ever?
http://www.svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=74527&selectedDate=20090107
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 00:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Gah, I miss this show too. Maybe I'll go and DL all John Hughes films to make up for my loss. :-)
― Nathalie (stevienixed), Wednesday, 14 January 2009 08:40 (fifteen years ago) link
can't read this thread because i'm only about halfway through s1 but yeah i love this shit
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 4 May 2009 20:19 (fifteen years ago) link
do yerself a favor and stop with season two, which is... full of wtf moments itself, but not nearly as bleak as the third season.
― ian, Monday, 4 May 2009 20:27 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, season 2 was not as good, and season 3 was unwatchable for me.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Monday, 4 May 2009 20:29 (fifteen years ago) link
The second season finale kind of ruined this show for me, it was such an unbelievable Scooby Doo-style reveal.
― Saula (Nicole), Monday, 4 May 2009 20:32 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, it was pretty rough.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Monday, 4 May 2009 20:34 (fifteen years ago) link
LET'S NOT SPOIL THIS FOR N/A OKAY GUYS?let him have his wtf moment(s) for himself.
― ian, Monday, 4 May 2009 20:35 (fifteen years ago) link
i dug season 2 more than 1, but really they're both top notch. 3 isn't as good, but still essential due to the fact that veronica mars is the best TV show made this century.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 4 May 2009 20:36 (fifteen years ago) link
Watch the last 5 episodes of series 3 at least (the standalone ones). For all the flaws in series 2 and 3 they're still a lot better than almost anything else you could be watching.
― 88, Monday, 4 May 2009 22:16 (fifteen years ago) link
the 2nd season finale is kinda hilarious in retrospect
the plane!!! lol
― zinguist (cozwn), Monday, 4 May 2009 22:20 (fifteen years ago) link
I loved the second season finale for that reason, it was crazy and over the top! But no spoilers.
Season 3 is just.. okay, then the final episodes are just bad... you want to talk about disappointing finales, the S3 finale was just awful, a terrible rehash of season 1 stuff and just a horrible down note to end it all.
― Nhex, Tuesday, 5 May 2009 01:46 (fifteen years ago) link
only halfway thru season 1 but veronica/logan, fuckin barf
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 22 June 2009 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link
lolol season one of this shit is great, season two is okay also. avoid season three.logan suxxxx. in fact, all the men veronica dates suxxxx.
― ian, Monday, 22 June 2009 19:18 (fourteen years ago) link
why wont she just get with wallace
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 22 June 2009 19:18 (fourteen years ago) link
(ps dont tell me if she ends up getting with wallace)
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 22 June 2009 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link
OMG I was totes in support of Logan + VM, I was practically suckerpunched by that scene. So hot.
― But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Monday, 22 June 2009 19:21 (fourteen years ago) link
would be more into it if logan wasnt so dumb lookin
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 22 June 2009 19:21 (fourteen years ago) link
I like Logan except for his retarded bro necklaces. We're about halfway through s2, still digging it except I'm missing the episodicness of s1.
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 22 June 2009 19:23 (fourteen years ago) link
logan's hair makes him look like a dragonball z character.
― ian, Monday, 22 June 2009 19:24 (fourteen years ago) link
logan as a character - interesting, well-rounded, well-actedlogan as an object to look at - doughy, terrible fashion, terrible hair, worst necklaces
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 22 June 2009 19:24 (fourteen years ago) link
ok yeah I'll agree with that
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 22 June 2009 19:25 (fourteen years ago) link
i loved this show
― gabb 'bag (s1ocki), Monday, 22 June 2009 19:25 (fourteen years ago) link
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― ian, Monday, 22 June 2009 19:26 (fourteen years ago) link
i wonder what shakey thinks of this.
Crinkly eyes, no lips to speak of, pale like the belly of a dead fish. This is, for better or worse, 100% my type.
― But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Monday, 22 June 2009 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link
guy who plays Logan is a 2nd-generation $cientologist, if that helps you enjoy his character more, max
― my mans paul tsongas (some dude), Monday, 22 June 2009 19:40 (fourteen years ago) link
i am wracking my brain and damn if I can't recall a single smashworthy dude from this show
― giovanni & ribsy (elmo argonaut), Monday, 22 June 2009 19:48 (fourteen years ago) link
weevil?
― ian, Monday, 22 June 2009 19:48 (fourteen years ago) link
i was always hoping veronica would break down and booty call weevil after one of her breakups.
― ian, Monday, 22 June 2009 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link
well steve gutenberg is a vintage smash but lookin rough lately
― giovanni & ribsy (elmo argonaut), Monday, 22 June 2009 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link
lol boys. i love logan.
― horseshoe, Monday, 22 June 2009 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link
until season 3, in which i pretty much hate everyone.
weevil is smashworthy until season 3. something happened to that actor's face.
― horseshoe, Monday, 22 June 2009 19:58 (fourteen years ago) link
also that very goodlooking young man who played lindsay lohan's love interest in mean girls is in one episode of veronica mars--ws.
― horseshoe, Monday, 22 June 2009 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link
just saw the one with alia shawkat and michael cera, which was kinda wtf
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 22 June 2009 20:03 (fourteen years ago) link
I think the original plan was to have Cera be the season 2 rapist, but that would probably have involved not being Michael Cera.
― Sir William of Joel (Nicole), Monday, 22 June 2009 20:07 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i sensed they were headed in that direction when i first watched that episode and it had me ON EDGE.
― horseshoe, Monday, 22 June 2009 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link
k im checking out of this thread cuz things are being revealed--cant believe none of yall would smash wallace but no accounting for taste--also the deputy from the beginning of season 1 has a funny accent
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 22 June 2009 20:30 (fourteen years ago) link
i cant believe no1 mentioned the jerk sheriff as a ws i mean cmon
― combination pizza hut and shanty town (Lamp), Monday, 22 June 2009 20:31 (fourteen years ago) link
sheriff lamb was ok but that deputy dude she dated was v hott iirc
― giovanni & ribsy (elmo argonaut), Monday, 22 June 2009 20:37 (fourteen years ago) link
yesssss dude she dates b4 logan
also lol max if u r still reading this did u decide to watch this because of party down?
― combination pizza hut and shanty town (Lamp), Monday, 22 June 2009 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link
Hey I just finished season 3 (late to the party). I was watching the penultimate episode and was psyched cuz I thought I had a whole other disc to watch (getting them from Netflix) but then I saw that the last disc was just extras so there was one ep left! And it was weird and left a whole lot of things completely hanging. (The previous episode brought up the Fitzpatricks wanting Cordelia's money and I thought there was some question as to whether she was really dead - but that didn't go anywhere).
In S3 - the rapist storyline - VM thought it couldn't be Mercer because he had a phone-in radio show. Did they explain that?
Anyway, sucks that this is finished :(
― Not the real Village People, Sunday, 21 March 2010 19:40 (fourteen years ago) link
IIRC they were playing Mercer's show over the speakers at the party and she heard the audio skip - then she realized that it was pre-recorded and he had no alibi.
― musically, Sunday, 2 May 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link
I just watched the last few episodes last night. It was such a superb show, just so brilliant, and the end of season 3 just left me so...cold. I don't necessarily need everything to be wrapped in a nice bow but when after the finale I'm scrambling to see if I forgot the last DVD then it seems like SOMETHING went wrong. I'll blame the network for picking up the final episodes last minute, not allowing time for a cohesive final arc - in other news, Smallville is on season 9!
Random notes:
-A+++ decision to drop Duncan from the show for season 3 - glad I wasn't the only one who was firmly team Logan/Veronica, not to mention that the Duncan character was complete dead weight anyway. I only wish their relationship could have been a bit more steady in the end, as it was getting a bit too Ross & Rachel for my liking.-The murder of Aaron Echolls was dismissed far too casually- father of Logan, movie star, acquitted murderer was killed execution style right after the trial and barely two words about it in season 3?-Did anyone else not recognize the other female in the S3 credits as Parker immediately? It was about 10 episodes in that I figured that it wasn't a character that was coming mid-season, ha.-One thing I found a bit jarring but didn't get too hung up on was that Veronica would still associate with Dick (not that they were bffs) even though she knew that he facilitated her rape. And Logan loved to get smashy smashy at any man who dared give Veronica the side eye so his continued friendship with Dick was a bit of a plot hole in my mind.-Were the Weevil and Logan actors on roids for season 3? Both were a lot bigger and very pimply (check out Logan's back during the surfing scenes).
― musically, Sunday, 2 May 2010 23:40 (fourteen years ago) link
So this is all on Netflix Watch Instantly now it seems. I can finally watch it from beginning to end instead of loose episodes I've caught here and there. Amazing use of The Streets in pilot!
― Mordy, Saturday, 10 July 2010 21:11 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh man I miss this show so much. Thank god for True Blood.
― Nathalie (stevienixed), Saturday, 10 July 2010 21:13 (thirteen years ago) link
Favorite thing abt that show was a gay-themed/pizza delivery man mystery episode titled "Versatile Toppings"
― the aztec mystic pizza (Stevie D), Saturday, 10 July 2010 21:16 (thirteen years ago) link
big fan of this show.
― not everything is a campfire (ian), Saturday, 10 July 2010 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link
this show is dope
― blap...tremendo (deej), Thursday, 29 July 2010 01:00 (thirteen years ago) link
have the first two season on DVD: and yes, it's awesome!
― demons a. real (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 29 July 2010 01:25 (thirteen years ago) link
i can't quite put my finger on why this show's cynicism seems so much more thorough than like a 'grownup cop show' or a teen-themed show with all kinds of social backstabbing, or what have you.
― j., Thursday, 29 July 2010 01:45 (thirteen years ago) link
i think it's bcz Veronica Mars schools EVERYONE! even her dad at times.
― demons a. real (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 29 July 2010 01:47 (thirteen years ago) link
it's not so much Nancy Drew as much as Fresh meets Beavis & Butthead
― demons a. real (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 29 July 2010 01:48 (thirteen years ago) link
i started watching this over the weekend and i'm almost done with season one. good shit.
― DâM-EdnA-FunK (get bent), Thursday, 29 July 2010 06:14 (thirteen years ago) link
just watched the 'hot dog' ep. i love the background trip hop soundtrack!! shit is so great & dated.
― blap...tremendo (deej), Thursday, 29 July 2010 06:38 (thirteen years ago) link
i have just started watching this a second time. loving it just as much as the first time. :-)
― Nathalie (stevienixed), Thursday, 29 July 2010 08:29 (thirteen years ago) link
great great show
― titchyschneiderhouserules (s1ocki), Thursday, 29 July 2010 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link
very few performers nowadays are as charming as k-bell
even k-bell
― Eggs, Peaches, Hot Dogs, Lamb (remy bean), Thursday, 29 July 2010 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link
such a great show! and yeah, I don't think any of the cast has gone on to do anything as good, though it was fun to see them all show up on Party Down. Seyfried's rise is kind of pleasing even if I haven't seen any of her movies
― elephant rob, Thursday, 29 July 2010 17:46 (thirteen years ago) link
should i watch s3 everyone says its bad right?
― blap...tremendo (deej), Monday, 2 August 2010 03:50 (thirteen years ago) link
It's a little worse than S2, but not terrible. (IIRC)
― a cross between lily allen and fetal alcohol syndrome (milo z), Monday, 2 August 2010 03:59 (thirteen years ago) link
yah but S2 itself is a massive dropoff from the greatness that is S1
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 2 August 2010 04:53 (thirteen years ago) link
hated season three with a passion
was probably fine
except for change in theme song and piz and everything shit about it
― conrad, Monday, 2 August 2010 05:06 (thirteen years ago) link
season 3 is totally funny and entertaining, but the story lines and politics are pretty dumb. if you're watching for the zings (like me) you will be fine. if you're watching for the noir atmosphere and intelligent mysteries, you will hate it.
― symsymsym, Monday, 2 August 2010 05:21 (thirteen years ago) link
fucking piz
― it sucks and you all love something that sucks (reddening), Monday, 2 August 2010 07:28 (thirteen years ago) link
It would have been 100% better if Rob Thomas had been able to cast Michael Cera as the creepy rapist like he had planned. I feel like Cera would work better as a creeper rather than a corny indie fuck.
― ô_o (Nicole), Monday, 2 August 2010 10:47 (thirteen years ago) link
I like Piz! And I thought the third season was actually an improvement on the second, despite defanging Logan and killing off the best character too early in the season. The finale is heartbreaking (and made even worse for me as I thought I still had another DVD’s worth of episodes left in the box).
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 2 August 2010 11:38 (thirteen years ago) link
My wife and I started watching season one last week, and I'm having trouble sticking with it. Part of the problem I think is that unlike lots of other shows we've been watching start to finish, this one doesn't lend itself well to nightly viewing. It seems designed for once a week watching. Also, it's got this annoying too cool for school but still for kids (but not) vibe, like some Nickelodeon production with extra hormones. Also also, I hate almost everyone in the first five eps, V. Mars excepted. Knowing little of the show beyond its reputation, if I haven't been convinced five eps in, is it still worth waiting it out? At least they've already dropped the horrid Troy love interest.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 August 2010 12:44 (thirteen years ago) link
only u can answer that question
i mean you're basically saying "i hate this show, should i keep watching it?"
― the itsytitchyschneider (s1ocki), Monday, 2 August 2010 12:46 (thirteen years ago) link
kind of a classic ilx query tbh
― just sayin, Monday, 2 August 2010 12:47 (thirteen years ago) link
Part of the problem I think is that unlike lots of other shows we've been watching start to finish, this one doesn't lend itself well to nightly viewing. It seems designed for once a week watching.
I might agree with this, but I wonder why you think so?
― jaymc, Monday, 2 August 2010 12:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Also it's funny to me that so many of us are watching this show right now (thanks to Netflix, I presume).
― jaymc, Monday, 2 August 2010 12:54 (thirteen years ago) link
Jaymc, I suspect it's because so much of the show is told in voiceover and flashback, like one long "previously on 'Veronica Mars.'
I don't think asking if I should stick with it is dumb at all. I don't know how many people I've suggested stick with "Buffy," because those first few episodes are kind of rocky and ridiculous, but then it gets pretty good pretty quickly after that. Or "Deadwood," which is great but begins sort of short of where it soon gets (starting around the episode with Kristen Bell, ironically). Season two of "Mad Men" is much better than the first. "The Shield" starts strong but then keeps getting better and better. So asking whether "Veronica Mars" gets better is perfectly reasonable, I'd say. Vs. most shows, which are so formulaic they're basically the same show again and again. Like "ER" or "Cheers" or whatever. Or even "Seinfeld." Or "The OC." If you don't like 'em at first, you likely won't like them later. Right now I'm on the fence about "Veronica Mars" because the formula rubs the wrong way, but I suspect it may get better. Or maybe it doesn't!
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 August 2010 14:23 (thirteen years ago) link
Also also, I hate almost everyone in the first five eps, V. Mars excepted.
Felt this way at first, but the best thing about it is being surprised by how many you end up liking A LOT by the end of the season.
― Roz, Monday, 2 August 2010 14:53 (thirteen years ago) link
but that's just me though.
― Roz, Monday, 2 August 2010 14:55 (thirteen years ago) link
no, i totally agree with you there
― Nhex, Monday, 2 August 2010 15:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Nickelodeon production with extra hormonewe just started watching this on netflix on demand, and i've actually kind of appreciated this vibe. pleasingly artificial? Like, it's not even going for any real semblance of believability -- everything is sorta stylized in a way that maybe more shows should be.
― tylerw, Monday, 2 August 2010 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link
The show could do away with the washed-out/weirdly lit look of all the flashback scenes, though.
― jaymc, Monday, 2 August 2010 15:22 (thirteen years ago) link
it could do away with amanda seyfried (seriously, am i the only person that hates her?)
― Eggs, Peaches, Hot Dogs, Lamb (remy bean), Monday, 2 August 2010 15:30 (thirteen years ago) link
this is the only thing i've seen Seyfried in, but yeah, she is horrible here.
― tylerw, Monday, 2 August 2010 15:33 (thirteen years ago) link
(might not be her fault, tho, i don't know)
― tylerw, Monday, 2 August 2010 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link
she looks like A) an alien B) gemma ward C) my cousin Natale
― Pissed off our Weingarten (Stevie D), Monday, 2 August 2010 15:35 (thirteen years ago) link
always thought it was weird that amanda seyfried and the actress who plays mac in v. mars were also both in big love
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 2 August 2010 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link
My gf was very proud of herself for identifying the girl who plays Mac ashttp://image.xyface.com/image/a/movie-andre/andre-140119.jpg
― jaymc, Monday, 2 August 2010 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link
(The one on the left.)
omg, i knew she was familiar from something. did not think it was that.
― tylerw, Monday, 2 August 2010 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link
does she have bell's palsy in that photo?
― Eggs, Peaches, Hot Dogs, Lamb (remy bean), Monday, 2 August 2010 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link
it's been so long since i watched s.1 of this that i nearly forgot seyfried was on this show. that said, y'all crazy, i luv her
― johnny crunch, Monday, 2 August 2010 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Has there ever been a fish out of water show with a super rich person forced to live with poor people? Because there have been a lot of the opposite. One of the things I liked best about "Buffy" was that pretty much everyone was firmly middle class.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 August 2010 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link
iirc the sixth episode is when they start giving Logan a bit more depth.
I agree about the enjoyably artificial feel, though they did do some things realistically that other network high school shows don't, especially drug use. Like, Logan does drugs off and on, but it's never LOGAN HAS A DRUG PROBLEM, he just gets high and plays Halo with Dick a lot.
― "the English sweat" (a new disease) (clotpoll), Monday, 2 August 2010 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link
josh it's not quite like buffy, but i feel like if you're 5 eps in and hate everyone and aren't liking it, u should cut yr losses
― the itsytitchyschneider (s1ocki), Monday, 2 August 2010 16:11 (thirteen years ago) link
(ie, it might ramp up a bit, but not as steeply as buffy)
― the itsytitchyschneider (s1ocki), Monday, 2 August 2010 16:12 (thirteen years ago) link
Has there ever been a fish out of water show with a super rich person forced to live with poor people?
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h279/juicyfrt/simplelife_Main-Profile_hea.jpg
― demons a. real (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 2 August 2010 16:14 (thirteen years ago) link
that's actually how we canoe in canada
― the itsytitchyschneider (s1ocki), Monday, 2 August 2010 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link
nice.
― demons a. real (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 2 August 2010 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link
x-post Since Veronica can hold her own, I figured the only reason the supporting cast was composed almost entirely of rich assholes was to set the stage for their potential redemption. BTW, had a great theory as to what's going on (being totally blind to future plot turns), but deep down I'm (preemptively) bummed that there's no way the show will go where I wished it went. Eh, it's light. I'll give it a few more eps.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 August 2010 16:38 (thirteen years ago) link
i feel like if you're 5 eps in and hate everyone and aren't liking it, u should cut yr losses
Agreed. VM never ramped up in terms of quality the way Buffy did. I think if you don't like it after the first 5 episodes you're probably never going to like it.
― ô_o (Nicole), Monday, 2 August 2010 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link
it's funny that I like this show but hate logan tons and duncan and piz and wallace sometimes and mac sometimes and the rest. I like veronica and keith
― conrad, Monday, 2 August 2010 19:22 (thirteen years ago) link
tbh most tv show characters, even on tv shows I love, are pretty hateable
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 2 August 2010 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link
mr rogers for example
― the itsytitchyschneider (s1ocki), Monday, 2 August 2010 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link
Green Acres
― no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Monday, 2 August 2010 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link
I think it's the actors I hate rather than the characters which are just a bit rubbish
― conrad, Monday, 2 August 2010 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link
i like wallace most of the time. and i like weevil.
― not everything is a campfire (ian), Monday, 2 August 2010 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link
I like the mushmouthed deputy, the defense lawyer, and Ken Marino as the rival p.i. (though I can't remember how much he's in season 1).
― elephant rob, Monday, 2 August 2010 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link
I like just about all of the characters on this show? I think it must take a lot for me to hate a character.
― ô_o (Nicole), Monday, 2 August 2010 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah they are all quite good
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― conrad, Monday, 2 August 2010 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh, I like all the teenagers too but pretty much all the adult secondary characters are great iirc and that's a real strength of the show compared to other "teen dramas." OTOH, I'll spend time watching people on TV who I would actively avoid irl (which is kind of no duh, but I mean I still can't believe I enjoy a show about football players in Texas) and maybe other people aren't like that.
I'd say watch past the first 5. That Troy subplot seems like an out and out fuckup by the writers' compared to the rest of the season which is really well-balanced between the overarching plot and the individual eps.
― elephant rob, Monday, 2 August 2010 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link
the Troy thing sets up the show's cynical tone so well!
― Simon H., Monday, 2 August 2010 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link
A lot of the 09ers seem kind of cardboard, tbh. Logan and Duncan seem to be getting a bit more interesting (I've watched 12 episodes), but a lot of the secondary characters are just anonymous chiseled dudes.
― jaymc, Monday, 2 August 2010 20:02 (thirteen years ago) link
show has had some good homicide cameos so far, which I appreciate. Bayliss! Melissa Leo -- as a transgendered woman! i hope there are more.
― tylerw, Monday, 2 August 2010 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link
xpI moved to a new high school after sophomore year, so "anonymous chiseled dudes" actually rings true with my experience.
I think that's it tylerw. I was always sad they didn't have a scene together.
― elephant rob, Monday, 2 August 2010 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link
i also appreciate that, despite its kinda artificial feel, a lot of the show seems to be filmed on location in the San Diego area, and kind of gets the vibe of the place right.
― tylerw, Monday, 2 August 2010 20:07 (thirteen years ago) link
As kind of an extension of what I saying about the adult characters, I think one are where VM excels over Buffy is the setting. Neptune and its high school feel much more real to me than Sunnydale. Obv neither show is aiming for naturalism, and I don't really care about this idea wrt to Buffy, but I think it's one of the pleasures of VM.
― elephant rob, Monday, 2 August 2010 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link
i've also watched 5 eps of this and kinda lost interest. not sure why exactly because there's a lot i like about it. a friend told me the overarching plot gets darker and more interesting within the next few eps, so i'm gonna try again.
the trans mom ep made me cry and is by far my favorite so far ;_;
― my objective was to get the ham (another al3x), Monday, 2 August 2010 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link
At least Veronica Mars didn't have an awesome pool hall/bar/concert venue (with national touring acts!)... that caters to one high school and only serves juice/soda.
― a cross between lily allen and fetal alcohol syndrome (milo z), Monday, 2 August 2010 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Did you not get to the episode where Spoon plays yet.
― no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Monday, 2 August 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link
I remember almost no details about VM (except for how much I hated the 12 Angry Men/Veronicas episode)
― a cross between lily allen and fetal alcohol syndrome (milo z), Monday, 2 August 2010 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link
v mars doesn't ramp up like buffy but it starts out stronger (i love buffy a lot more overall but the first season of vmars is better than the first season of buffy). also, vmars starts moving really fast about six episodes from the end of the season and then it's impossible to stop watching. i think i watched the last six episodes in a night the first time i watched the first season through.
― horseshoe, Monday, 2 August 2010 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link
person who finds the characters unlikeable, how can you dislike Cliff??!?
Logan is a great character and i love him but boys seem to have something against him ime
― horseshoe, Monday, 2 August 2010 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link
we're jealous duh.
― not everything is a campfire (ian), Monday, 2 August 2010 20:22 (thirteen years ago) link
totally! he's the classic "why do girls only like jerks?" model
― elephant rob, Monday, 2 August 2010 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link
logan is a great character arc iirc
― the itsytitchyschneider (s1ocki), Monday, 2 August 2010 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link
logan 100% rubbish
― conrad, Monday, 2 August 2010 21:35 (thirteen years ago) link
I just dug out my Veronica Mars dvd set and Episode 5 is probably the worst episode of the season (well maybe the Paris Hilton one earlier is worse). The thing is from around episode 11 the series hits a really great roll all the way to the end. Now it may be the show just isn't to your taste, but it might be worth hanging on a wee bit longer to see if that second half of the season saves it for you.
― treefell, Monday, 2 August 2010 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, I think I'll stick with it a bit longer, because it's harmless/mindless enough, and def. sharp enough for me to suspect it can do better. With Troy out of the way, I hope it's onward and upward! Or at least reaches cruising altitude.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 August 2010 21:54 (thirteen years ago) link
― the itsytitchyschneider (s1ocki), Monday, August 2, 2010 3:25 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
otm. logan is awes
― blap...tremendo (deej), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 01:38 (thirteen years ago) link
hey, its a dude who is actually self aware & genuinely funny/cynical
also is amanda seyfried the dead sister? imo shes the hottest
― blap...tremendo (deej), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 01:39 (thirteen years ago) link
duncan is way more the kind of dude i would sorta roll my eyes at when girls go gaga for him ... hes pretty cardboard as a personality, a centered person but not much for entertaining conversation. also hella mopey (w good reason obv im just sayin)
― blap...tremendo (deej), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 01:40 (thirteen years ago) link
the lawyer is def a great character too. trying to think of characters i just dont like & kinda struggling
dick is hilarious also
whoa dude from freaks & geeks is in season 3
aside from kevin smith the cameos in this show are pretty great
― blap...tremendo (deej), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 01:51 (thirteen years ago) link
why so many scientologists in this prog?
― conrad, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 02:14 (thirteen years ago) link
why so many in hollywood?
the new theme song does suck
― blap...tremendo (deej), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 02:29 (thirteen years ago) link
who are the scientologists?
― tylerw, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 02:35 (thirteen years ago) link
logan piz dick probably others
― conrad, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 02:43 (thirteen years ago) link
maybe not actually http://arabian.dreamwidth.org/70712.html?thread=476728
― conrad, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 02:51 (thirteen years ago) link
piz is so boring i cant take it
lol @ the constant lebowski references btw
― blap...tremendo (deej), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 03:01 (thirteen years ago) link
Actually this show kind of is mediocre.
― Daleks in NYC (Leee), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 03:24 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, no
― blap...tremendo (deej), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 05:09 (thirteen years ago) link
ugh piz i couldn't finish the third season
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, I couldn't do Season 3.
― no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link
Piz is too lame to be a dick.
― ô_o (Nicole), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link
I just met my downstairs neighbor for the first time this morning and he could have walked off a Veronica Mars 09er casting call. He sounds like an 09er and even has kind of an 09er name (no offense to the two prominent ILX posters with the same name).
― no gut busting joke can change history (Jenny), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link
In fact, I will probably just refer to him as Dick Casablancas going forward.
― no gut busting joke can change history (Jenny), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link
all the white boy 09ers remind me so much of every single boy i went to high school with it's crazy
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link
3 is a total drag, though I vaguely recall liking the Paul Rudd ep and the final one. Bizarre that they pulled the old "let's send them all to the same college" TV move and then you hardly see Wallace and Mac (iirc) once they get there. Also, they make Veronica genuinely unpleasant, judgmental, and rash.
― elephant rob, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link
i miss wallace. i feel like percy daggs is never going to be cast in anything ever again.
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah. I would get super depressed whenever that Hot Pockets or whatever commercial he was in would come on.
― elephant rob, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link
I was being pretty glib about most TV characters being hateable, and that doesn't apply to V Mars for me (I even like Logan!) but there are definitely shows I enjoy where I don't like any of the characters but for some reason I can't remember what they are right now.
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, it's pretty rough. I guess it was silly to keep watching and expect it to get better. I did like the last episode, though.
― ô_o (Nicole), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link
So ep. 6 was OK, but now (scanning these recent posts) I'm a bit worried. Do I watch til the end of season one then cut and run? Season 2? Half of season 2?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link
Watch all of Season 2 or none of it. Watching half of it is sort of pointless.
― no gut busting joke can change history (polyphonic), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link
jesus, all of it is worth watching!
can't believe the dad of the deceased girl - can you tell i'm crap with names - is that dude from homicide!!!!
― Nathalie (stevienixed), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah it is! funny. i don't think i've seen him in anything else.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Kyle Secor was in an episode of The Closer last night! He gets around
― Nhex, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link
kinda sad they didn't get to do fbi season 4 with walton gogginshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG_dqD9RrKM
― cozen, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 21:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Thanks for that, hadn't seen it.
― Not the real Village People, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 22:04 (thirteen years ago) link
kyle secor is dreamy
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link
i saw kyle secor in something else recently, cant recall
his character in homicide becomes really really interesting as the seasons go on
― blap...tremendo (deej), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 01:10 (thirteen years ago) link
oh yeah season 2 is great btw ... if you get halfway through you'll want to watch the end.
― blap...tremendo (deej), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 01:12 (thirteen years ago) link
S2 isn't perfect but it must count as one of the most ambitious seasons of TV ever.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 4 August 2010 01:13 (thirteen years ago) link
wow this ep is where s3 really takes a hit huh
vmars getting all 'noid about her prof is ugh
― blap...tremendo (deej), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 01:42 (thirteen years ago) link
piz is ... literally not a character
― blap...tremendo (deej), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 01:43 (thirteen years ago) link
― Simon H., Tuesday, August 3, 2010 8:13 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
OTM
S2 broadens the Neptune world significantly, building on what I said was such a strength in a rather complicated way. There are some bad individual episodes (that jury duty one is justly reviled), but I ultimately admire that season for its ambition, even if it kind of blows it at the very end.
― elephant rob, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link
The ending of S2 was so Scooby Doo and ott that it just about ruined the season for me.
― ô_o (Nicole), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 15:16 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, "kind of blows it" is too charitable. Compare that rooftop scene with the final confrontation in S1 and it's like, wth happened writers?
― elephant rob, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Frankly, I loved it. It was so over the top and crazy, and it almost fit the weird escalation that started off the season with the bus killing all those kids. To me, season 2 was not quite up to the level of season 1, but still great.
― Nhex, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 15:28 (thirteen years ago) link
haha i love the ending. im glad its super ott
― blap...tremendo (deej), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 23:53 (thirteen years ago) link
imo, its better as 'totally wtf unpredictable' than 'oh so it was the janitor' the way it had potential to be (that would have been the scooby doo ending iirc)
they do leave some loose ends in the season, that im p sure they had trouble resolving
― blap...tremendo (deej), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 23:54 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah I like the S2 ending, save for the distractingly crappy low-budget f/x.
― Simon H., Thursday, 5 August 2010 02:12 (thirteen years ago) link
i actually think the veronica-wigs-out subplot in s3 is kinda ... right. i mean as far as her being super-suspicious of logan & everything, it just makes more logical sense than '& they lived happily ever after.'
i do hope they give logan some irreverence back tho hes kind of turned into duncan :-/
― blap...tremendo (deej), Thursday, 5 August 2010 02:15 (thirteen years ago) link
for some reason, it took me half of S1 before i could consistently recognize duncan when he came on-screen. he just kind of faded into the sea of other douchey-looking brown-haired guys at the school. during one episode i was like "oh you know what, duncan wears argyle a lot, i'll bet i can remember him that way," but it turned out to be same episode where ducan lends logan one of his argyle sweaters and SEXY MIXUPS occur.
― it sucks and you all love something that sucks (reddening), Thursday, 5 August 2010 03:02 (thirteen years ago) link
that guys is super forgettable in every way, yeah
― horseshoe, Thursday, 5 August 2010 03:04 (thirteen years ago) link
i think rob thomas had big plans for duncan as a character but the dude who played him just couldn't get it done, acting-wise
― horseshoe, Thursday, 5 August 2010 03:05 (thirteen years ago) link
otoh, Duncan's final act is one thing I do really love about the S3 finale, not that that required any acting feats.
― elephant rob, Thursday, 5 August 2010 03:13 (thirteen years ago) link
I remember reading Rob Thomas based Kyle Bradway on the dude who played Duncan.
― ô_o (Nicole), Thursday, 5 August 2010 03:26 (thirteen years ago) link
ahahahaha amazing!
― horseshoe, Thursday, 5 August 2010 03:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Miss this show...
― Blue Sky Whine (SeekAltRoute), Thursday, 5 August 2010 03:48 (thirteen years ago) link
i always thought it was weird that the chick who played gia in S2 is in like, everything, all the time now. she was a p great character tho
S3 kinda worth it 4 the sweat scavenger hunt episode
― TEEN LESBIAN (Lamp), Thursday, 5 August 2010 03:50 (thirteen years ago) link
veronica: "your fly is open"dick: "I know. party ritual."
<3 dick
― blap...tremendo (deej), Friday, 6 August 2010 01:19 (thirteen years ago) link
n/h
― blap...tremendo (deej), Friday, 6 August 2010 01:34 (thirteen years ago) link
Our one dvd of season one ist kaput. Major bummer
― Nathalie (stevienixed), Friday, 6 August 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link
got hooked on this when i gave it a second try, sped through s1.
what are your favorite logan zings?
Trina: Will you just hear me out, please? My boyfriend Dylan spotted me some cash a few months ago, and now he's bugging me about it. I — I can't get him off my back. Logan: Did you try standing up?
― a man without his raincoat (another al3x), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link
Mr. Daniels: You know, the glow of your father's wealth and celebrity may be enough to sustain you through high school, Mr. Echolls, but do you know what it will get you in the real world? Logan: Please say "high school English teacher." Please say "high school English teacher."
― a man without his raincoat (another al3x), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 22:48 (thirteen years ago) link
haha he's such a punk i <3 him
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link
sad i can't find the "so you got a trophy for a rim job?" scene on youtube :(
― not everything is a campfire (ian), Thursday, 26 August 2010 03:52 (thirteen years ago) link
what's the song at the end of s2e7?
― pun gent (another al3x), Monday, 6 September 2010 16:34 (thirteen years ago) link
It's "Run" by Air. Off Talkie Walkie.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 6 September 2010 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link
So I watched this whole series in a little over a month.
Despite the fact that the show just sort of sputters out at the end, due to cancellation, I think I might have liked S3 a little better than S2. I admire the ambitiousness of S2, but there were SO many threads going at once and whole episodes in the middle that just seemed to drag. I liked the lighter touch of S3. Still, best stretch of episodes in the series is definitely the back third of S1; I don't think many people disagree with that.
Random peeves I couldn't get out of my head:
1. Who is paying for the suite at the Neptune Grand? At first it's the Kanes, but when Duncan moves out, are they still paying for Logan to live there by himself? At the end of S3, Dick Casablancas Sr. suggests that *he* is paying for it -- but is he paying for just Dick Jr., or Logan too?
2. After she was raped and her head was shaved, Parker wore an unflattering wig for one episode. Next episode, her hair had miraculously grown back to shoulder-length, despite the fact that the other rape victims still sported silly bald caps. (I thought maybe it was just a more realistic wig, but no.)
― jaymc, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Also, skimmed through this thread last night, and this... In any other actress's hands Veronica Mars would probably be completely insufferable! She's, umm, particularly good at being punchably smug / clever / quippy in a way that does not inspire punching impulses -- like, quite the opposite.― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, February 1, 2007 12:43 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
...is totally OTM. She's a really great actress.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link
<3 kristen
― pun gent (another al3x), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link
so having heard about this show for years i finally start to watch and plow thru season one in one week on netflix. very good, great entertainment. love the dad. maybe it was just bad luck and the timeslot but it does seem weird it wasn't a bigger hit. part of me wonders if it would've done well on a bigger network and part of me wonders if it wouldn't have been canceled midway thru the first season (nevermind lasted three seasons) if it hadn't of been on the cw.
― balls, Monday, 4 October 2010 02:06 (thirteen years ago) link
Probably would have lasted longer on something like ABC Family channel that is geared towards younger people. Greek has been on 4 seasons now and that is pretty bad.
― svend, Monday, 4 October 2010 02:10 (thirteen years ago) link
The subject matter probably wouldn't fly on ABC Family, though I admittedly don't watch that channel very much.
― No Good, Scrunty-Looking, Narf Herder (Gukbe), Monday, 4 October 2010 02:50 (thirteen years ago) link
finished s2 recently. not as good as s1 for sure, but still pretty great. loved guttenberg!
― ๏̯͡๏ (another al3x), Monday, 4 October 2010 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link
the more i think abt it, it's kind of odd how most of the fathers in the series (keith aside) are kinda bad guys? daddy echolls, pedo mayor, wallace's dad (shady past least), Meg's dad, mr. casablancas.. idk, just a stray thought.
― not everything is a campfire (ian), Monday, 4 October 2010 23:56 (thirteen years ago) link
i think a major theme of the show is that the adult world does not have kids' interests at heart and is often actively harmful/abusive/neglectful of kids.
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 00:07 (thirteen years ago) link
iirc rob thomas has a background in YA fiction (and maybe teaching, too) that might account for his POV.
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 00:08 (thirteen years ago) link
it's a noir, most every adult is suspect in some way (and it ends up being significant when veronica discovers that her dad is willing to… what is it, have an affair with mrs. laura san giacomo just because it makes him happy?). moms and other women, too. veronica's mom ditches her rehab and takes the money veronica put toward it; celeste kane despises veronica and then still doesn't like her even after she helps solve lily's murder; one of her female teachers tries to hold off an investigation into madison sinclair's ballot-stuffing out of spite for veronica.
i can't remember the (fired) journalism teacher doing anything morally vicious. levy-the-business-teacher does nothing but have his retirement investments tank because he bought big into casablancas stock. apart from wanting to hide her past, and from being a little bit of a jerk to keith at first, did wallace's mom ever do anything blameworthy? logan's mom seems kind of put upon by his dad's behavior, but apart from being generally a bad mom i don't remember her doing anything specifically bad.
anyway, like horseshoe says, the bearing of their parents' behavior on the kids' lives is a pretty big theme: whether, say, the kids can somehow find a way to not be complete creeps given the world their parents have made for them or the examples they've set. lots of them are creeps, but they can at least point to their parents a lot of the time.
but it's also a recurring counterpoint to that that veronica discovers after helping someone out that there are plenty of decent people who like her and aren't especially mendacious or manipulative, she just couldn't see it through the perspective on her social world she'd adopted after being shunned by all the 0-9ers.
― j., Tuesday, 5 October 2010 04:27 (thirteen years ago) link
you do rc (in both cases)
― swagula (Lamp), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 04:34 (thirteen years ago) link
My wife and I finally finished the first season, and I pretty much hated the show. I mean, I thought the acting was great across the board, and the writing was tops, but rarely have I seen either put in service of stories I cared less than a shit about. Of all the things that bugged me perhaps number one was Veronica mentioning she had been raped in the first ep, but only getting around to finding out who raped her in the second to last ep. Like, VM's Things to Do list:
1. Solve murder of best friend2. Find lost dogs and parrot...13. Find out who raped me
VM, apparently, was first pitched as a YA novel, and the rights bought as such.
We're not going to bother with the future seasons. That first one was just so full of holes and ridiculousness (in a bad way) to bring down the ridiculous (in a good) way stuff. Shame Kristen Bell hasn't taken off beyond this show, but she was great in "Deadwood."
This seems to be the implicit theme of any show about rich kids. It's a convenient way to get the grown ups out of the picture.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 11:29 (thirteen years ago) link
u dislike a lot of awesome stuff iirc
― cathy: ACK-er (s1ocki), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 11:45 (thirteen years ago) link
i thought they did a pretty awesome job of spreading the central storylines out over the course of 10+ hrs. balancing the time between that and the episodic mysteries is one reason why this is a great tv show in a different way than if it was a great 2 hr movie all about solving lily's murder. i'm sure that would be neater, but i'm totally willing to forgive a few minor plot holes to get stuff like dognappers and purity tests and transmoms too
― ๏̯͡๏ (another al3x), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 12:19 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't understand why they had to fuck with the theme song for s3 though :\
― ๏̯͡๏ (another al3x), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 12:20 (thirteen years ago) link
My wife and I finally finished the first season, and I pretty much hated the show. I mean, I thought the acting was great across the board, and the writing was tops, but rarely have I seen either put in service of stories I cared less than a shit about.
man, wonder which part of this they'll put on the dvd
― laughing out loud lol (history mayne), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 12:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Killing off --REDACTED-- halfway through the third season was the show's greatest mistake. And that awful Twelve Angry Men episode. And Wallace's dad. Otherwise: top-notch.
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 12:47 (thirteen years ago) link
i thought it was pretty clear that #13 was something she basically wanted to put behind her? she keeps up her investigation, like she does with every other ongoing mystery in her life, but what's she supposed to do, go banging on doors day after day? when she goes to the cops to report it lamb laughs her out of the office, and she keeps it a secret from her dad for a long time. in fact, the two ongoing mysteries she does more actively pursue are both concerned with important other people in her life (finding lily's murder and finding her mom), while she tends to suppress things that (justice aside) only concern her and which nothing can be done about. seems like pretty good character-plot-writing to me?
― j., Tuesday, 5 October 2010 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link
she only investigates her rape (which turns out to be a somewhat ambiguous rape in a turn i'm not sure i would feel better about if they'd planned it that way or if they just twisted it that way at the last moment) when a new lead opens up from another case. 2-12 are her living her life/helping her friends/occasionally fucking w/ 09ers. i'm kinda happy the show wasn't 22 weeks of 'chick finds out who and wrecks vengence on her rapist'; not really crying out for 'i spit on yr grave: the tv show'.
― balls, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link
have you only seen the first season?
― No Good, Scrunty-Looking, Narf Herder (Gukbe), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 20:22 (thirteen years ago) link
yes! and one ep of season two before i stopped and thought 'ok, i need to watch something besides veronica mars for at least a week or so'.
― balls, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link
I just thought it was sort of pointless to bring up the rape in the first ep if she wasn't going to follow through til the end. And in the end it only took an ep to solve something I would think would be even more damaging/horrific than the murder of your best friend. Just not needed, and really did reveal the on-the-fly nature of even that first season. I mean, I'm not even sure they knew what to do with the missing mom story! In the last ep, she she's basically back just long enough for Veronica to kick her out and write her off.
There are easy fixes for all these problems, which is why I'm so down on the show. I can handle failure, obviously I can handle success, but what bugs me more than anything are shows and movies that have everything going for them yet still drop the ball. All I can see is potential squandered. At the end all I could think of is that "Brick" did the hard boiled high school detective thing better. And Buffy did high school just as well as Mars, and it had vampires!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm not sure how anyone in 2010 could still regard vampires and teens as a positive
― balls, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link
you'll want to avoid monk though, they take even longer to solve the central mystery. and you'll totally want to avoid homicide - they never solve it!
― balls, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link
just finished the first season of this, too -- thought it was pretty entertaining. but the "twists" there at the end kinda amounted to making the show a lot less subversive/dark than what it started out with -- the rape, the incest, etc, all turned out to be kind of warm and cuddly, amazingly enough. also sort of weird that lily was depicted as a horrible human being throughout the season ...
― tylerw, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Everyone was pretty much depicted as horrible, save Wallace, Wallace's mom, Mac and Veronica's popular blonde friend. I kind of wish they didn't solve anything. "Forget it, Veronica. It's 09-er Town"
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 01:16 (thirteen years ago) link
wow came in here to post about the new Harry Hamlin/Lisa Rinna reality tv show to find that the thread has been flooded with RONGness. what the hell is up with ILX lately???
― scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 15 October 2010 23:17 (thirteen years ago) link
This seems to be the implicit theme of any show about rich kids.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, October 5, 2010 6:29 AM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
this show is also emphatically not just about rich kids & frequently is aware of & confront class issues
― j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Friday, 22 October 2010 03:03 (thirteen years ago) link
which tbh was one of the best things abt it imo
― j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Friday, 22 October 2010 03:04 (thirteen years ago) link
This is, like, so stupid as to be beyond words. Go hone your challops somewhere else, bud.
― scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 22 October 2010 09:58 (thirteen years ago) link
3rd season of this show might be my favorite TV thing ever.
― by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 05:58 (thirteen years ago) link
amster you crazy
― balls, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 06:02 (thirteen years ago) link
ya well S1 > S2 >>> S3 >>>>>>>>>> most everything else on tv anyway, so he does sort of have a point.
― twisted sister hazel dickens (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 06:05 (thirteen years ago) link
no, i'm not crazy. though admittedly i took a 2-year break between finishing s2 and starting s3, so maybe i just forgot how good previous seasons were? but seriously the episode in s3 with the guy searching for his prostitute soulmate was just shockingly good.
most episodes of this show have SO. MUCH. PLOT. not that this is by definition a good thing (see most soap operas) but it's usually handled so fleetly and deftly. i mean i can't believe the shit they pack into 45 minutes.
― by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 06:14 (thirteen years ago) link
all the veronica mars fans i know irl think season 3 was awful which seems crazy to me also. i'm apparently the only person i know who thinks season two was best (and it's pretty far ahead imo). season 3 there's some definite cost cutting and heavy retooling on the go, anything to keep it on the air. plus tv shows set in high school always have such a awkward time transitioning to college for some reason. such a great character though. i wonder what that fbi fourth season would have been like. tempted to watch all the party downs again to see everybody pop up.
― balls, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 06:18 (thirteen years ago) link
I always liked season 3, though watching episodes of it again recently I've found it somewhat wanting. It's alright, but it's not as good as the first two seasons.
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 06:20 (thirteen years ago) link
there are some really great moments in the third season but also long stretches where they seemed uncertain of what to do w/ a # of characters (mac, logan, piz) & so didnt really do anything at all
i did think the switch to more self-contained episodes worked really well, and towards the end of s3 the show got really good again
― Lamp, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 06:22 (thirteen years ago) link
I started season three with some hesitation four days ago and I'm already 2/3 through. Why oh why did I think it was so terrible? Too bad about the movie dying. Too bad / so sad.
― they call him (remy bean), Sunday, 2 January 2011 03:02 (thirteen years ago) link
just watched the pilot on netflix STREAMING VIDEO and lolllllll at this bullshit show
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 7 February 2011 21:48 (thirteen years ago) link
I will probably watch every ep by tomorrow or something tho
watch the first three or four before making a snap decision imo, but ymmv.
― not everything is a campfire (ian), Monday, 7 February 2011 21:52 (thirteen years ago) link
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, February 7, 2011 4:48 PM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
lollllll @ u imo >:[
― horseshoe, Monday, 7 February 2011 22:25 (thirteen years ago) link
I remember when I was a kid they used to be a promotional commercial for UPN where they had a bunch of kids dancing and jumping around shouting UPN all upbeat phonetically like "YEAHHHH OOP PEN!"
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 7 February 2011 22:34 (thirteen years ago) link
uh oh, you are TRIFLING with the WRONG MAMA-JAMA.
― go peddle your bullshit somewhere else sister (Laurel), Monday, 7 February 2011 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link
i REALLY disliked the first episode of this show, i was all "i can't believe how horrible logan is, i'll never like this character." then at the end of the season he was like my favorite character.
― just wait and see what happens to her uterus (reddening), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 02:37 (thirteen years ago) link
I started watching this the other day and like this show so far! I'll probably watch the first season by the end of the week.
― mh, Monday, 11 April 2011 22:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah awesome show! Jealous that you only discovered this now.
― Nathalie (stevienixed), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 09:13 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/559914737/the-veronica-mars-movie-project
― adam, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 15:01 (eleven years ago) link
guys
It would also be a semi-Party Down movie given all of the VM actors that were on both shows. I would like to donate money if I could add the caveat that Piz cannot be in it.
I was watching an episode recently on cable and was surprised to Jessica Chastain on an episode, forgot she was on there.
― rallying against young people who wear hats (Nicole), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 15:23 (eleven years ago) link
I bet Piz is working for Buzzfeed.
― rallying against young people who wear hats (Nicole), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 15:24 (eleven years ago) link
Piz: everything that is wrong with this world, basically.
― rallying against young people who wear hats (Nicole), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 15:25 (eleven years ago) link
cute but i don't a believe for a sec that this will fly
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 15:28 (eleven years ago) link
In just the couple of minutes it took me to skim through the pitch, they'd made another $20k.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 15:36 (eleven years ago) link
Today is bad, but I might try to give $25 at least
― smh on the water (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 15:45 (eleven years ago) link
I was skeptical until (like Johnny Fever) I noticed it went up about $25k in the three minutes or so it took me to read through all the options.
They're already over $300k now; I can almost see them making their goal by the end of the day tomorrow.
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 16:30 (eleven years ago) link
man, i had completely blocked piz from my memory
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 16:43 (eleven years ago) link
Lucky you!
― rallying against young people who wear hats (Nicole), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 16:56 (eleven years ago) link
close to $475K now!
― smh on the water (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
who's piz again?
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 17:00 (eleven years ago) link
The TV show never got released on region 2 dvD (UK) I think. I was looking for something awesome to rent for my o/h when he was housebound but I'd have to stump up import prices :(
― kinder, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 17:14 (eleven years ago) link
I forgot about Piz, but I don't remember disliking him particularly.
Weevil must be in this, obvs.
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
Piz was a corny indie fuck from Veronica's year at college.
― rallying against young people who wear hats (Nicole), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 17:24 (eleven years ago) link
― smh on the water (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, March 13, 2013 10:57 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
900
damn
― sleepingbag, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 18:36 (eleven years ago) link
Over halfway there already...
― michaellambert, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 19:12 (eleven years ago) link
damn this is moving fast
― Nhex, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 19:50 (eleven years ago) link
Amanda Palmer will be grinding her teeth with envy.
― rallying against young people who wear hats (Nicole), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 19:52 (eleven years ago) link
17000 people averaging $70 apiece.
I need to come up with some kind of Kickstarter scam scheme product.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 20:02 (eleven years ago) link
xpost -- don't even invoke her name, she'll find a way to be on the soundtrack
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 20:03 (eleven years ago) link
That is true.
― rallying against young people who wear hats (Nicole), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 20:08 (eleven years ago) link
ILX: the Kickstarter
Instead of pledging money, you send Buffy dvds.
― rallying against young people who wear hats (Nicole), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 20:09 (eleven years ago) link
Would pay for Party Down, would not pay for V. Mars, which fell off hard after season one.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 20:15 (eleven years ago) link
Also, really uncomfortable giving money to Hollywood to make stuff for us to pay for.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 20:17 (eleven years ago) link
That's because you'll pirate it otherwise, you heartless criminal.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 20:20 (eleven years ago) link
tbf, most of the packages include a DVD so you don't have to pay twice
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
Some even come pre-chewed.
― rallying against young people who wear hats (Nicole), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 20:34 (eleven years ago) link
Do I get a share of the profits? Of whatshername's salary and (herherhe) backend?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 21:00 (eleven years ago) link
I leave ilx for half the day, see this thread bumped, and the kickstarter project is already at $1.5 million. Daaaaamn. Looks like some other people love Veronica Mars, too.
― ☠ ☃ ☠ (mh), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 21:02 (eleven years ago) link
No, you're just pre-ordering a DVD at an inflated price because you feel like if you don't, you'll never see a Veronica Mars movie. If you're someone who lusts after a VM movie or another season of Firefly or w/e, this is perfectly reasonable calculation.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 21:03 (eleven years ago) link
A share of their mega, mega profits on this Veronica Mars movie, as Veronica Mars and Party Down made so much cash for the actors and writers
― ☠ ☃ ☠ (mh), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 21:07 (eleven years ago) link
So, about Amanda Palmer and envy...nah, she is TOTALLY angling for that soundtrack spot, I can tell:
https://twitter.com/amandapalmer/status/311941320702820353
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 21:09 (eleven years ago) link
You mean mid-00s UPN shows weren't billion-dollar properties?
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 21:09 (eleven years ago) link
t-shirt + DVD for $50 isn't so bad... that's about what a ticket to a show + a t-shirt runs you these days.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 21:12 (eleven years ago) link
most LOL support premium -- kristen bell will follow you on twitter!
― i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 21:17 (eleven years ago) link
at least they find it funny, rather than the Penny Arcade assholes who were selling you a precious retweet
― ☠ ☃ ☠ (mh), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 21:33 (eleven years ago) link
amanda palmer is the worst dot avi
― maura, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 21:41 (eleven years ago) link
I was kinda tempted by the $750 one with tickets to the premiere, but I already spent $422 on music this year, so the entertainment budget is tight.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 21:43 (eleven years ago) link
Xpost, mostly just complaining, but come on,.if you don't think the people behind this show didn't make a hunk of change just because they weren't hits, you don't know Hollywood, where even failure pays. 1 of my favorite magazine profiles of all time was of the star of the then lowest rated show on TV, Nick Freno Licensed Teacher. even he had a house on the hills with a pool.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 22:01 (eleven years ago) link
IDG the revelance? Yeah, Kristen Bell is doing okay, though probably not okay enough to fund a multi-million dollar film on her own. Is this a charity drive for the cast?
I don't think Wallace has a house in the Hollywood Hills, though.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 22:17 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, young people make great financial decisions.
http://realestalker.blogspot.com/2012/02/la-home-of-kristen-bell-falls-into.html?m=1
― ☠ ☃ ☠ (mh), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 22:28 (eleven years ago) link
I mean, assuming that dude wasn't in a non-failure later, Do you think he is still in that house?
― ☠ ☃ ☠ (mh), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 22:29 (eleven years ago) link
Man, I wonder if we can earmark $$$ for Wallace.
xpost The relevance is in reference to folks that jibed sarcastically that Veronica Mars was a mega money maker or a billion dollar property, raining cash. Any way you slice it, the principals behind it got paid and got rich. Maybe not by Seinfeld standards, but extremely well off by human standards, if maybe not Hollywood standards. This is not a Kickstarter for a struggling musician or hand-to-mouth documentary film. This is raising money for a corporate project. With, granted, some talented and creative people involved, none of whom I imagine will be working for sub-scale, taking turns cooking pasta for the crew, rolling their paychecks into the production. I think every fan should be allowed to keep their favorite stuff going, by any means necessary. No one is twisting any arms here. But this makes Amanda Palmer's outstretched hand seem modest in comparison.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 22:54 (eleven years ago) link
i'll own up to dropping $50 on this. that's like my fiancee and i going out to see two movies, neither of which would be about veronica mars. down for that.
― adam, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 22:58 (eleven years ago) link
I mean, assuming that dude wasn't in a non-failure later
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 23:06 (eleven years ago) link
The relevance is in reference to folks that jibed sarcastically that Veronica Mars was a mega money maker or a billion dollar property, raining cash.
Any way you slice it, the principals behind it got paid and got rich. Maybe not by Seinfeld standards, but extremely well off by human standards, if maybe not Hollywood standards. This is not a Kickstarter for a struggling musician or hand-to-mouth documentary film. This is raising money for a corporate project. With, granted, some talented and creative people involved, none of whom I imagine will be working for sub-scale, taking turns cooking pasta for the crew, rolling their paychecks into the production.
If they're trying to make this for $2mn or whatever, then yeah, Rob Thomas and Kristen Bell will be working for peanuts. If Bell wanted to make money, she'd sign on for another rom-com when her Showtime series is on hiatus. The entire idea is that Thomas needed to prove that there's a dedicated fanbase that will pay plenty of money to see the film, allowing the WB to let it be made risk-free, and so everyone's desires are served. Without the Kickstarting there's no movie.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 23:14 (eleven years ago) link
Nm Josh in Chicago and his 'crusades'
― smh on the water (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 23:48 (eleven years ago) link
OK so how much money is this actually gonna end up with? This is insane tbh.
― sleepingbag, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 23:50 (eleven years ago) link
I am so on a "crusade." This particular crusade has me up in arms, Arms, I tell you! I'm crusading! Or at least on a "crusade."
Tbh, I'm having trouble figuring out what the $2mil is for. To prove to WB that there is interest? To pay for the production, with WB handling distro and promotion? To pay for part of the production, with WB kicking in a bunch having received proof of interest? Iirc correctly, $2mil was around the cost of an ep of the show. I think the pilot was maybe $3mil.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 23:52 (eleven years ago) link
That's probably the minimum they could do it for.
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 23:56 (eleven years ago) link
Over $1.8 million at this stage, plus nearly all high end packages over $500 are spoken for aside from two of the $5000 ones. I'm bizarrely impressed, this'll be funded within twelve hours total at this rate.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 23:57 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/entertainment/2013/03/kickstarter-kind-of-annoying-isnt-it/63060/
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 23:59 (eleven years ago) link
I should stress, crusading or no, that it's awesome anyone can raise so much money so quickly, for a corporate for profit venture or no.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 23:59 (eleven years ago) link
This is just a new way for markets to work. I get the consternation, but hey, more Veronica Mars. Don't see why it's worth getting upset about.
― Gukbe, Thursday, 14 March 2013 00:02 (eleven years ago) link
i'm sure this movie will be really great and cool
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 14 March 2013 00:03 (eleven years ago) link
It will be a Firefly crossover movie.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 March 2013 00:04 (eleven years ago) link
Nerds will explode and die.
and here i was worried that it would be so long til we'd see another 'veronica mars' project that it would turn into 'murder, she wrote'
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 14 March 2013 00:05 (eleven years ago) link
but see the thing about firefly is that it sucks. besides that it's not really a fair comparison--joss whedon rules the world with his creepy nerd misogynist empire. rob thomas can't even work a half-hour comedy on fuckin starz.
― adam, Thursday, 14 March 2013 00:25 (eleven years ago) link
What position is fucking Starz in to call something a success or not?
I know why Party Down flopped - because it was on Starz - but for the life of me I can't figure out how that show didn't end up somewhere else. Or, hell, how or why it ended up on Starz to begin with!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 March 2013 00:28 (eleven years ago) link
It was commissioned under the first Starz new-progamming director. He didn't last long, plus nobody watched it, so it got canned when the new guy came in.
Just to say I think the Amanda Palmer comparison is really unfair. He's not asking to crowdsource the crew and the cameras and having people volunteer to edit and foley etc.
― Gukbe, Thursday, 14 March 2013 00:40 (eleven years ago) link
Passed the goal.
― Gukbe, Thursday, 14 March 2013 00:56 (eleven years ago) link
I'm having trouble figuring out what the $2mil is for.
Iirc correctly, $2mil was around the cost of an ep of the show. I think the pilot was maybe $3mil.
so, the money is to pay for the cost of shooting up-front, minus what the packages sent to donators costs them, meaning they'd be working on a lower budget. presumably, WB would recompensate for the lesser earnings of the actors/director/writers if it makes more money, but if they don't, they're out nothing. if the kickstarter project makes more, then presumably they spend it on the production in some way, even if that's just pocketing it as compensation?
I mean, this isn't rocket science, they're basically saying "front us this much, and we'll make a movie." It's not "front us this much, and then we'll ask you to act in the movie for hugs"
― ☠ ☃ ☠ (mh), Thursday, 14 March 2013 00:57 (eleven years ago) link
joss whedon rules the world with his creepy nerd misogynist empire
a+ trolling
― Simon H., Thursday, 14 March 2013 01:01 (eleven years ago) link
dude i've been rescreening some buffy and the guy is a total women's studies 101 sleazeball.
anyway the v mars kickstarter hit 2 million a few minutes ago. so there's something to look forward to.
― adam, Thursday, 14 March 2013 01:04 (eleven years ago) link
They've said that any additional money will go into the production. They'll be able to shoot more locations etc...
― Gukbe, Thursday, 14 March 2013 01:11 (eleven years ago) link
Also, this is only a corporate enterprise insofar as Warner Bros owns Veronica Mars. I'm sure they'd make it completely indie if they could.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 14 March 2013 03:04 (eleven years ago) link
if they end up with some insane amount like $20 million they should just do a whole new season of the show, and also the Party Down movie
― some dude, Thursday, 14 March 2013 03:47 (eleven years ago) link
Also Kristen Bell gets 10 of her own sloths
― ☠ ☃ ☠ (mh), Thursday, 14 March 2013 03:49 (eleven years ago) link
I hope I can still get a pdf of the shooting script
― smh on the water (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 14 March 2013 05:13 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/tv-column/post/veronica-mars-creator-pledges-movie-of-short-lived-series-if-fans-can-raise-2-million-in-a-month/2013/03/13/9114dac6-8c02-11e2-9f54-f3fdd70acad2_blog.html
^about halfway down there's an implication that a Terriers movie kickstarter might be on the way
― Mily has a new friend, who turns out to be a dwarf. (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 14 March 2013 06:24 (eleven years ago) link
Would definitely throw some money at a Terriers wrap-up movie.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 14 March 2013 06:28 (eleven years ago) link
Would you get a SAG card for the $10k speaking role?
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 14 March 2013 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
He's baaack.
― Ou sont les Sonneywolferines d'antan? (Leee), Sunday, 9 June 2013 06:14 (ten years ago) link
piz is all right.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Sunday, 9 June 2013 06:58 (ten years ago) link
more happy about Percy Daggs
― Nhex, Sunday, 9 June 2013 08:44 (ten years ago) link
oh man, fortuitous thread bump, just watched the first three eps of s2 today. Honestly there's nothing I find more charming than teen detectives.
― Operation Gypsy Dildo (silby), Sunday, 9 June 2013 08:47 (ten years ago) link
have been shipping Veronica/Weevil all along but my sister tells me that's not a thing.
― Operation Gypsy Dildo (silby), Sunday, 9 June 2013 08:48 (ten years ago) link
Not a thing on the show or not a thing on the internet?
― Ou sont les Sonneywolferines d'antan? (Leee), Sunday, 9 June 2013 17:49 (ten years ago) link
On the show.
― Operation Gypsy Dildo (silby), Sunday, 9 June 2013 17:56 (ten years ago) link
man, it looks as if they're going to get pretty much every major or beloved character from the original series that didn't die or have to flee the country. personally hoping they manage to swing principal clemmons and corny, if it's going to be a high school reunion mystery.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 04:15 (ten years ago) link
― Nhex, Sunday, June 9, 2013 3:44 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
what has he been doing for six years?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 07:20 (ten years ago) link
yes now piz can finally die
― ty based gay dead computer god (zachlyon), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 07:34 (ten years ago) link
https://twitter.com/RobThomas/statuses/317629030914461698
Swearing!
― Roz, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 10:22 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq1R93UMqlk
trailer looks pretty promising although LOVE TRIANGLE WITH PIZ NOOOO
― some dude, Saturday, 4 January 2014 02:10 (ten years ago) link
piz being in this was unavoidable so we should be thankful it appears we're going to get a scene or two at the beginning and then a couple of awkward phone calls later on
― balls, Saturday, 4 January 2014 02:13 (ten years ago) link
yeah i hope you're right... still the idea that she was with him all this time or even just the last year or two is :/
― some dude, Saturday, 4 January 2014 02:20 (ten years ago) link
This feels like the right time to admit that I just named my external HD "Take Back-Up."
― Horreur! What are this disassociated lumps of (in orbit), Saturday, 4 January 2014 02:23 (ten years ago) link
reunion is a pretty smart idea
― j., Saturday, 4 January 2014 02:24 (ten years ago) link
stoked to see leo tbh
― balls, Saturday, 4 January 2014 02:39 (ten years ago) link
very excited about this!
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Saturday, 4 January 2014 02:48 (ten years ago) link
That looks way better than I expected, nice to see VM with non-UPN budget lighting.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 4 January 2014 02:49 (ten years ago) link
otm
― Spottie, Saturday, 4 January 2014 03:03 (ten years ago) link
I remember watching an episode of the show back when it was on the air and it did nothing for me but the trailer is making me excited for the movie and maybe I should try watching the show again?
― Murgatroid, Saturday, 4 January 2014 03:06 (ten years ago) link
Yeah!
― Spottie, Saturday, 4 January 2014 03:07 (ten years ago) link
my hope is that the movie will work as a standalone piece and that people who've never seen an episode will enjoy it, but it's hard to tell if's going to rely heavily on familiarity with the characters or if the trailer is just playing up things that will get the fans excited.
― some dude, Saturday, 4 January 2014 03:18 (ten years ago) link
WHERE IS KEN MARINO
― jaymc, Saturday, 4 January 2014 03:55 (ten years ago) link
was veronica's dad the only Old Person they showed?
― j., Saturday, 4 January 2014 04:00 (ten years ago) link
I'm hoping this sparks a series revival so that I can forget House of Lies exists.
― Simon H., Saturday, 4 January 2014 04:01 (ten years ago) link
arghhh i actually HAD forgotten House of Lies exists, now i am sharing in your pain
― some dude, Saturday, 4 January 2014 04:11 (ten years ago) link
never watched! hard earned showtime skepticism paying off again.
― balls, Saturday, 4 January 2014 04:19 (ten years ago) link
wait, so Veronica and Piz have been together for 10 years and she's never met his parents?
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 4 January 2014 04:25 (ten years ago) link
my wife said she read something that implied that they only linked back up a year or two before the storyline in the movie, so they haven't been together the whole time or anything
― some dude, Saturday, 4 January 2014 04:34 (ten years ago) link
hoping for awesome Logan zingers in this movie
― Spottie, Saturday, 4 January 2014 04:38 (ten years ago) link
happy that Duncan still seems non-existent, while (former) Deputy Leo is back. :D
― Roz, Saturday, 4 January 2014 14:35 (ten years ago) link
Ugh, Leo, he's such a douchebag now.
― Neil Nosepicker (Leee), Sunday, 5 January 2014 00:11 (ten years ago) link
JAR.
CastCredited cast, sorted by IMDb STARmeter:Kristen Bell Kristen Bell ... Veronica MarsJames Franco James Franco ... James Franco (rumored)
― j., Sunday, 5 January 2014 01:56 (ten years ago) link
ugh can't that guy just take a vacation or something
― some dude, Sunday, 5 January 2014 02:24 (ten years ago) link
Hahaha
― reductio balls absurdum (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 5 January 2014 11:08 (ten years ago) link
glad piz is back now he can finally get the death scene we deserve
― my whole family is catholic so look at the pickle i'm in (zachlyon), Monday, 6 January 2014 05:03 (ten years ago) link
and now we can finally get everyone's reaction to KONY 2012!
oh shit is the plot of the movie that veronica mars manages to find kony?
― reddening, Monday, 6 January 2014 07:09 (ten years ago) link
zach: thank you for finding the silver lining here
― Nhex, Thursday, 9 January 2014 06:05 (ten years ago) link
http://variety.com/2014/digital/news/veronica-mars-entire-tv-series-streaming-exclusively-on-amazon-prime-1201039809/
woo hoo, 'free' streaming
― j., Friday, 10 January 2014 01:26 (ten years ago) link
i was actually pretty excited to hear that news today -- we have amazon prime hooked up to the TV, and recently rewatched the first season of VM but don't have the other two seasons on DVD.
― some dude, Friday, 10 January 2014 02:25 (ten years ago) link
we just started the first season last weekend -- i totally dig it
also I think it's the first thing I've ever enjoyed Amanda Seyfried in. I always thought she looked like a goldfish before this.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 January 2014 02:33 (ten years ago) link
nah man them boobs is magical, they can tell the weather
― balls, Friday, 10 January 2014 03:29 (ten years ago) link
time for a 'murders at hearst college' re-eval i think
― j., Friday, 10 January 2014 03:33 (ten years ago) link
xpost omg her boobs are a+
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 January 2014 04:11 (ten years ago) link
ok will re-eval boobs too
― j., Friday, 10 January 2014 04:21 (ten years ago) link
Probably the last place to which I expected a VM thread to go.
― Neil Nosepicker (Leee), Friday, 10 January 2014 04:26 (ten years ago) link
sorry :(
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 January 2014 04:32 (ten years ago) link
lol not sure if I was complaining...
― Neil Nosepicker (Leee), Friday, 10 January 2014 05:09 (ten years ago) link
http://www.amazon.com/Veronica-Mars-Original-Mystery-Vintage-ebook/dp/B00DXKJ406/ref=pd_rhf_dp_s_cp_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=0310NKSRBJV1Q3CQQB06
― j., Saturday, 11 January 2014 21:42 (ten years ago) link
The first book in an original mystery series featuring twenty-eight-year-old Veronica Mars, back in action after the events of Veronica Mars: The Movie. With the help of old friends—Logan Echolls, Mac Mackenzie, Wallace Fennel, and even Dick Casablancas—Veronica is ready to take on Neptune’s darkest cases with her trademark sass and smarts. - seems to be a name missing here
― balls, Saturday, 11 January 2014 23:10 (ten years ago) link
a shame, I wanted to see if piz sparkles on the page the same way he does the screen
― reddening, Sunday, 12 January 2014 00:18 (ten years ago) link
unless he's there and they thought it would be too spoilery to refer to him by his new name, Piz Mars.
― reddening, Sunday, 12 January 2014 00:20 (ten years ago) link
o shit Piz is totally the criminal mastermind in the movie isn't he
― Simon H., Sunday, 12 January 2014 00:30 (ten years ago) link
maybe he just gets killed in an unfortunate accident
― j., Sunday, 12 January 2014 01:51 (ten years ago) link
I wd piz my pants!
― fit for one who twerks and cries (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 12 January 2014 04:26 (ten years ago) link
First two minutes is basically a series recap:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Cd8cMWb0gI
still lol @ the complete and total absence of Duncan.
― Roz, Sunday, 2 March 2014 19:27 (ten years ago) link
i am torn... loved the first few eps and now I'm midway through s1 and the noirish nancy drew thing, esp the narration is reaaaaaally getting on my nerves
kinda find myself waiting for it to be great again
logan looks like one of those floppy inflatable things they put out the front of tire stores
why is weevil/vm not a thing he's sooo cute
duncan can diaf he's like jared padelicki with a frontal lobotomy
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 2 March 2014 20:30 (ten years ago) link
the weevil bike gang is the single most ridiculous thing about this ridiculous (and often v good) show. a gang of soft-spoken helmet-wearing pranksters whose criminal activities are... framing each other for credit card fraud? so lame.
― adam, Sunday, 2 March 2014 21:19 (ten years ago) link
they're teenagers!
― j., Sunday, 2 March 2014 21:23 (ten years ago) link
i've been doing a rewatch and just finished s1. i went into it thinking "i was probably too hard on duncan the first time around" but no. he is dreadful. that scene early on where he and troy sit in a car and joke about "gettin' jiggy wit' it" and "raising the roof"? mortifying.
― reddening, Sunday, 2 March 2014 21:38 (ten years ago) link
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 2 March 2014 21:48 (ten years ago) link
the worst duncan line has to be, "you've been listening to radiohead again, haven't you? that's it, i'm putting you on a strict nelly diet!" i don't know if there's an actor who could make those words sound anywhere approaching normal, but duncan somehow manages the singular feat of making them sound even stupider.
― eh mec, elle est ou ma caisse? (ytth), Monday, 3 March 2014 02:43 (ten years ago) link
he sounds like a weird out of touch uncle
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 3 March 2014 02:57 (ten years ago) link
it's endearing how dated the music references seem, jessica chastain shows up as a guest star and her first line is like "oh, sorry i haven't returned your Snow Patrol CD yet!"
speaking of dated, the girl fashions in this show are something else. i just got to the episode where steve guttenberg's daughter claims she wore this outfit to "blend in":
http://i58.tinypic.com/rtglg4.jpg
― reddening, Monday, 3 March 2014 05:34 (ten years ago) link
my main impression of this show from the episodes i saw was that the colors were rad and the girl fashions were part of that. the like cool noir approach it (sometimes?) took to filming loud pastels.
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 3 March 2014 05:37 (ten years ago) link
whoa, I forgot Krysten Ritter was ever on VM
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 3 March 2014 05:42 (ten years ago) link
the "sunset lighting" & every room having blinds half drawn is starting to grate on me
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 3 March 2014 06:15 (ten years ago) link
haha havent seen the show since it came out but that's exactly how I remember it now.
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 3 March 2014 08:58 (ten years ago) link
http://www.fandango.com/movie-trailer/exclusive:veronicamars8minutepreview-trailer/166515/2440473354
― maura, Saturday, 8 March 2014 23:33 (ten years ago) link
the pilot looks less cheap than I remembered
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 10 March 2014 03:44 (ten years ago) link
PARIS HILTON
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 11 March 2014 01:17 (ten years ago) link
Saw this last night in a mostly packed theater and I really enjoyed it, despite me not having watched much of the show (I remember watching an episode back then but it didn't do much for me).
― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Friday, 14 March 2014 16:36 (ten years ago) link
glad to hear the movie holds appeal for a neophyte. but dude! you have to catch up on the show now!
― still alive, but charged with murder (some dude), Friday, 14 March 2014 16:40 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, I could see how the shuffling from one character to the next could be seen as fan service but since I wasn't technically a fan before the movie, it served as a nice introduction to the world and how expansive it got by the end of the show's run.
― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Friday, 14 March 2014 16:45 (ten years ago) link
seeing this tonight sort of against my will. i have fond memories of v mars but every time my wife rescreens an episode it feels stupider and stupider. assuming the movie will be roughly on the level of star trek: insurrection, the standard for post-show feature-length episodes.
― adam, Friday, 14 March 2014 16:45 (ten years ago) link
assuming the movie will be roughly on the level of star trek: insurrection
D:
― Gibbering Hard Gibberish Soft (Leee), Friday, 14 March 2014 16:55 (ten years ago) link
No spoilers intended with this post, but I'm getting the impression that most fans prefer Logan over Piz as Veronica's love interest? Because based off this movie alone, I'm mostly for Piz over Logan. Sorry everyone.
― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Friday, 14 March 2014 17:30 (ten years ago) link
Which one is the vampire?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 March 2014 17:32 (ten years ago) link
Can't wait for this. O/h is walking around singing 'Veronica Mars' to the tune of 'One foot in the grave'.Stupid movie ticket says it's 68 min long but apparently it's proper movie length.
― kinder, Friday, 14 March 2014 18:16 (ten years ago) link
i think we're gonna watch online since i can't deal with packed movie theaters. just bought some old school popcorn maker and fancy sodas so looking forward to an at-home event!
― just1n3, Friday, 14 March 2014 18:35 (ten years ago) link
Just saw this today in a half empty theatre. I really think they nailed it, it was everything I wanted from the movie. Feel guilty for not giving money to the Kickstarter campaign now.
― Kitchen Person, Saturday, 15 March 2014 00:14 (ten years ago) link
but I'm getting the impression that most fans prefer Logan over Piz as Veronica's love interest?
ha
ha ha ha
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Saturday, 15 March 2014 01:01 (ten years ago) link
piz
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Saturday, 15 March 2014 01:02 (ten years ago) link
This was so poor :( Feels like they tried to edit a whole season down to movie length, lost all character and distinctive dialogue, and were left with clunky exposition.
― Stevie T, Saturday, 15 March 2014 13:51 (ten years ago) link
what! it was great. They had to wrap up what would be a season-long mystery into 1.5 episode-length so ... the end was a bit rushed. But otherwise I thought they got the pacing and playing to the fans about right. <3 (also multiple Freaks & Geeks actors, yay)
poor piz :(
my screening was totally full (with some younger kids, too) but it's showing like 6 times in total in a handful of theatres in the UK. It was a really good atmosphere!
― kinder, Saturday, 15 March 2014 22:10 (ten years ago) link
also I'm pretty sure there is a Mitchell & Webb reference in there (for UK viewers)
― kinder, Saturday, 15 March 2014 22:15 (ten years ago) link
is piz EIC of p4k
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Saturday, 15 March 2014 22:33 (ten years ago) link
is the plot "who killed mark richardson"
the mystery was pretty weak, but the dialogue, especially the essential back-and-forth between veronica + her dad and veronica + logan was exactly what I wanted to see. the theater I saw loved it, but it was a fan screening so unless it was a total bomb they would go nuts. but I didn't hear anyone complaining. also oh pizpaws delivered on a great aspect of the original show, where someone lowers the boom on veronica about her terrible behavior and leaves her speechless.
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Saturday, 15 March 2014 22:39 (ten years ago) link
kinder otm
― just1n3, Saturday, 15 March 2014 23:31 (ten years ago) link
i've read the "it's a whole season condensed down to 2 episodes" criticism in a number of reviews. first, if that were *really* true, then there would have been 22 little cases interspersed among the big murder case, each one getting solved in 3-4 minutes. second, not sure how an abbreviated mystery arc could have been avoided unless the movie didn't have a mystery plot at all, which would have been pretty weird.
― eh mec, elle est ou ma caisse? (ytth), Sunday, 16 March 2014 02:04 (ten years ago) link
All it takes is one plucky girl detective to keep a town from becoming completely corrupt
― have a nice blood (mh), Sunday, 16 March 2014 15:34 (ten years ago) link
Thought the movie was great
― acluelessdic (some dude), Sunday, 16 March 2014 15:42 (ten years ago) link
i'm sure the studio rights among a million other things make it impossible but would love if netflix or showtime or a very desperate nbc would do a wheel show w/ a rebooted veronica mars and terriers and something else, just slot them into this -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHk5cGwuS6A
― balls, Sunday, 16 March 2014 15:53 (ten years ago) link
OTM (though that could be nostalgia talking)
― Corporal Clegg, you've got a lovely daughter (WilliamC), Sunday, 16 March 2014 16:07 (ten years ago) link
entirely satisfying little movie.
― akm, Sunday, 16 March 2014 17:13 (ten years ago) link
This was just ok, but I'm really happy it got made - seems like a better closure for the characters than the end of season 3.
Kirsten Bell and Jason Dohring still have crazy chemistry, but I thought the Logan+Veronica dialogue seemed to have lost a bit of spark. Then again I always liked them most when they were fighting. Felt bad for Piz.
― Roz, Monday, 17 March 2014 04:53 (ten years ago) link
I loved seasons 1 and 2 but skipped 3 after it got slammed here so hard. Should I watch any of it before watching the movie?
― Corporal Clegg, you've got a lovely daughter (WilliamC), Monday, 17 March 2014 12:50 (ten years ago) link
haven't seen the movie but at the very least you'll need to know who piz is and there's some stuff at the very end that might (probably should) come up in the movie. maybe start w/ episode 10? the main problem w/ season 3 is the overarching mysteries (there were two - no season long arc) were really lame, you could maybe even skip ahead to the last five episodes, after any running mysteries are done, but you'd miss some stuff that happens. season 3 is definitely the weakest but most of that is usual high school show adjusting to college (i can't think of any show that's made that transition w/ grace) and somewhat desperate attempts and compromises to keep it on the air. i don't think it's actually really bad, it's just nowhere near the first two seasons.
― balls, Monday, 17 March 2014 13:01 (ten years ago) link
i just finished watching s3 and really struggled getting through it, i didn't care for either of the multi-ep mysteries but i missed their guiding structure during the last "arcless" episodes. i had never seen the series finale before and it just feels like a mess, they threw a bunch of stuff at the wall to set up a future that didn't end up existing. very bittersweet.
however it was still an opportunity to inhabit the world w/characters i loved so i'm glad i watched it. as for the movie, i think they managed to recap enough of S3 in the beginning of the movie and then organically throughout that you'll be fine.
― reddening, Monday, 17 March 2014 17:42 (ten years ago) link
otm, this was my reaction too.
― reddening, Monday, 17 March 2014 17:53 (ten years ago) link
i had never seen the series finale before and it just feels like a mess
but <3 'it never rains in southern california' closer
― j., Monday, 17 March 2014 18:09 (ten years ago) link
Who was the other F&G actor besides Martin Starr?
Good movie btw.
― Gibbering Hard Gibberish Soft (Leee), Sunday, 23 March 2014 18:39 (ten years ago) link
PS I love Dick.
― Gibbering Hard Gibberish Soft (Leee), Sunday, 23 March 2014 18:40 (ten years ago) link
xpost Franco
― Roz, Sunday, 23 March 2014 19:39 (ten years ago) link
And Dave Gruber Allen!
― kinder, Sunday, 23 March 2014 20:02 (ten years ago) link
I am now into S2 and hi my name's VGrrl and I love Veronica Mars
All my previous 'meh' is now gone after binge-watching S1. Once the bigger storylines ramped up and she stopped having to look for ppl's stolen bicycles etc all the goddamn time, it got way better. I'm still trying to figure out how they made me turn a corner from hating Logan on site to squeeing like a fangirl when they finally hooked up.
Now I'm onto hating Duncan, like a constant obsessive hatred. Like every episode I want him to be murdered horribly or drown in a bathtub or eaten by wild animals. He's such a turnip.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 17:50 (ten years ago) link
Crushing SO hard on Logan now though. It's a sickness.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 17:51 (ten years ago) link
I'm still trying to figure out how they made me turn a corner from hating Logan on site to squeeing like a fangirl when they finally hooked up.
I think they stopped having Logan organizing hobo fights for starters.
― Ned Zeppelin (Leee), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 18:04 (ten years ago) link
oh god
yeah that helped
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 18:26 (ten years ago) link
some of the shit that him & Dick say to Weevil & his crew is seriously like WHOA O_o
also I have a crush on lil' Beaver. He's so cute.
uh yeah, enjoy that for now
― have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 18:28 (ten years ago) link
>:(
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 18:28 (ten years ago) link
Heh, Dick and Beav.
― Ned Zeppelin (Leee), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 18:31 (ten years ago) link
don't forget Richard Casablancas Sr aka "Big Dick"
― Roz, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 18:36 (ten years ago) link
so funny
also loving Charisma Carpenter as the gold-digger.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 18:37 (ten years ago) link
Yesss I knew you'd see the light!
― kinder, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 19:00 (ten years ago) link
man I just realised vg hasn't gotten to the prom episode yet. That crush on Logan? It's not going away any time soon.
― Roz, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 19:19 (ten years ago) link
jeez, mh, way to ruin it!!!
― just1n3, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 19:40 (ten years ago) link
I RUINED NOTHING
― have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 19:41 (ten years ago) link
read the novel this weekend, it's pretty fun
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 19:53 (ten years ago) link
um if the 'prom episode' is anything the 80's prom episode where Logan wore no pants then I'm all in
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 20:06 (ten years ago) link
This made LOL v hard last night
Kendall: Doesn't this mean anything to you? Logan: It does. It means I'm getting laid. And I owe your village a goat.
Logan: It does. It means I'm getting laid. And I owe your village a goat.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 20:09 (ten years ago) link
xps i just started the novel too, good light reading so far
― just1n3, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 20:22 (ten years ago) link
you guys are going to make me read the novel, aren't you?
― have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 20:59 (ten years ago) link
it's not a difficult read!
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 2 April 2014 00:19 (ten years ago) link
I don't think that was the supposed qualm :)
― have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Wednesday, 2 April 2014 01:21 (ten years ago) link
It would be amazing if the Veronica Mars novel was dense and impenetrable, secretly written by DFW before his death.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 2 April 2014 02:52 (ten years ago) link
or his semi-lookalike from season 3
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100709054258/veronicamars/images/f/fd/Tim_Foyle.jpg
― CANS.... and D? (some dude), Wednesday, 2 April 2014 03:08 (ten years ago) link
it should be like House of Leaves
HOUSE OF NEPTUNE
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 2 April 2014 03:14 (ten years ago) link
sorry guys it is breezy and fun! well I mean people get murdered, but there are also quips
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 2 April 2014 03:32 (ten years ago) link
1000-page meditation on class, violence and gender in contemporary suburban America.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 2 April 2014 03:36 (ten years ago) link
with quips
The Sun Also Quips
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 2 April 2014 06:18 (ten years ago) link
mmm, sun quips
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 2 April 2014 14:12 (ten years ago) link
our local indie theater got the vmars movie last week, so I saw it a second time and enjoyed it a LOT more than the first time. I was so wound up about identifying callbacks and returning characters that I couldn't enjoy all the jokes and character chemistry.
― reddening, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 17:44 (ten years ago) link
Did you ever wonder what Veronica Mars would be like, with a different actress, and she is a zombie who helps solve crimes by learning about crimes by eating the brains of the murdered and murderers? From the same producer, even?
You now have iZombie!
― mh, Friday, 3 April 2015 01:00 (nine years ago) link
sold!
― some stupid push back (some dude), Saturday, 4 April 2015 12:58 (nine years ago) link
IT's not that great (yet) unfortunately, much more procedural and stock-character-friendly than VMars. And I do not enjoy the big bad.
― fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Saturday, 4 April 2015 15:19 (nine years ago) link
I avoided this because zombies are stupid, but Rob Thomas did do Veronica Mars, and this is only one zombie... I will check it out.
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Saturday, 4 April 2015 15:53 (nine years ago) link
idk if they have actually introduced a bad guy, per se, but I know what you mean
― mh, Saturday, 4 April 2015 15:57 (nine years ago) link
It's kind of charming, I think. Yeah, baddie sucks, and I hate zombies, but the concept of her taking on attributes of dead folks provides a lot of space.
― Spaceport Leuchars (dowd), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 20:30 (eight years ago) link
did anyone see the feature film? was it just completely indifferent? after all the hype about its fundraising model, it seemed to die with a whimper.
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 20:45 (eight years ago) link
yeah i liked it. Some discussion upthread.We put in a new bathroom window in kind of frosted glass and there's a streetlight outside and every night it reminds me of the lighting in Keith Mars's office
― kinder, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 20:54 (eight years ago) link
afaik people liked it and watched it? it was a good movie-length episode
― ultimate american sock (mh), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 20:54 (eight years ago) link
It was basically a long episode of the TV show.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 20:55 (eight years ago) link
in a good way...?
i feel like i'd feel a little cheated by that in the theater, but it was released simultaneously to theaters and streaming, right?
anyway, I guess I should catch up w/ it.
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 20:56 (eight years ago) link
yeah, it was in both, and is worth watching if you're wondering what those kids from Neptune have been up to
― ultimate american sock (mh), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:02 (eight years ago) link
With swearing, right?
― Madison Dumbbarfer (Leee), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:06 (eight years ago) link
not much
― check out this insane slothroprhymes yall (Spottie), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:21 (eight years ago) link
maybe it's just a sign of me getting old but the weirdest thing about the movie was that it made me root for Piz over Logan. Like come on girl, it's time you picked the nice, clean, stable one over that reckless fireball of repressed rage.
― Roz, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:59 (eight years ago) link
You weren't the only one!
― ultimate american sock (mh), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 22:13 (eight years ago) link
Veronica/Logan otp tho
― jennifer islam (silby), Thursday, 14 May 2015 03:33 (eight years ago) link
well no really Mac/Veronica otp but failing that
https://ew.com/tv/2018/08/21/veronica-mars-hulu/
― maura, Tuesday, 21 August 2018 21:53 (five years ago) link
NO DICK NO CREDIBILITY
― maura, Tuesday, 21 August 2018 21:54 (five years ago) link
wait
DUNCAN KANE IS BACK AND HE'S STILL EXPRESSIONLESS
― com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 21 August 2018 21:58 (five years ago) link
At least Piz is going to be in it!
― kinder, Tuesday, 21 August 2018 21:59 (five years ago) link
(jk jk)
This is exciting
yeah the movie was fun but this really needs to be a 12-15 episode season with a nice mystery arc and lots of casual exchanges with mac and wallace and her dad
― com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 21 August 2018 22:03 (five years ago) link
hell yes im in
― InfoWarriors (Spottie), Tuesday, 21 August 2018 22:08 (five years ago) link
MY MAC/VERONICA SHIP LIVES I mean neato
― faculty w1fe (silby), Tuesday, 21 August 2018 22:19 (five years ago) link
yay!
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 00:00 (five years ago) link
S4 out today (a week early)
― Simon H., Friday, 19 July 2019 23:52 (four years ago) link
hell yeah
― big city slam (Spottie), Friday, 19 July 2019 23:57 (four years ago) link
Does this mean I'm finally going to buy a Hulu subscription??
― Coelacanth Green (Leee), Saturday, 20 July 2019 00:07 (four years ago) link
just do a free trial lol
― big city slam (Spottie), Saturday, 20 July 2019 00:08 (four years ago) link
exactly, free trial lasts a month, only need 24 hours
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 20 July 2019 00:34 (four years ago) link
Wait, what? Had no idea they're rebooting this thing.
Movie wasn't that great though.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Saturday, 20 July 2019 00:47 (four years ago) link
Kirby Howell-Baptiste! Patton Oswalt!
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 20 July 2019 01:50 (four years ago) link
https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/tv-reviews/veronica-mars-hulu-review-859790/
^it's been getting good reviews, i'm excited! Hulu's not available in my country though, will need to search through some other er, means.
― Roz, Saturday, 20 July 2019 02:30 (four years ago) link
halfway through now, everyone's in top form. way better than the movie.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 20 July 2019 02:44 (four years ago) link
Movie just want a good for this, TV is in its DNA.
― Coelacanth Green (Leee), Saturday, 20 July 2019 06:44 (four years ago) link
whew. that was incredibly satisfying.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 20 July 2019 08:10 (four years ago) link
I'm embarrassed that it took me this long to figure out who's singing the new theme; it's Chrissie Hynde!
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 20 July 2019 13:04 (four years ago) link
New theme! I am scared to start this.
― Yerac, Saturday, 20 July 2019 13:06 (four years ago) link
So is this US only atm?
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Saturday, 20 July 2019 15:51 (four years ago) link
(new version of old theme)
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 20 July 2019 17:01 (four years ago) link
Wait what?! How do I get this?
― kinder, Saturday, 20 July 2019 17:19 (four years ago) link
(in the uk)
HELLO I AM WATCHING THIS i like it :D but i am only 1 ep in so will report backi hate that Logan looks all paleo now, ripped yet gaunt :(love the new theme song
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 22 July 2019 03:55 (four years ago) link
it was better than season 3, probably season 2 as well
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 22 July 2019 04:00 (four years ago) link
being better than s3 is a low bar
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 22 July 2019 04:02 (four years ago) link
Just started, watching Veronica and Keith banter is so great.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 22 July 2019 05:00 (four years ago) link
ep 1 lots of “hey remember this” but still good ep 2 was v enjoyable
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 22 July 2019 05:01 (four years ago) link
I think the duck bar is the same set as the bar in the OC.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 22 July 2019 05:12 (four years ago) link
Very good, best since s1. The right length for the story. Unexpectedly moving and occasionally actual lol worthy content. MVP of the returning cast is obviously Cliff
― Simon H., Monday, 22 July 2019 20:06 (four years ago) link
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar wrote one of the episodes!
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 17:05 (four years ago) link
whaaaat
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 19:16 (four years ago) link
Rob Thomas has a strange but nifty Rolodex.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 23 July 2019 19:27 (four years ago) link
he’s been on izombie this season too
― maura, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 01:17 (four years ago) link
i liked this season a lot. thought it tied together a lot of loose threads well.
― maura, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 01:18 (four years ago) link
Did Weevil and Veronica have a falling out at some point in S3 or the movie?
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 03:20 (four years ago) link
At the end of the movie, he goes back with the PCHers. My understanding is that all the stuff about Veronica and Keith being there for him but him taking a plea deal behind her back was in one of the books that came out between the movie and the new season. So short answer: No, they had a falling out in the time since.
― Jouster, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 04:15 (four years ago) link
outlet and/or reboot fatigue must really be setting in cause I feel like no one watched this or is talking about it
― Simon H., Saturday, 27 July 2019 06:06 (four years ago) link
do we have to talk about everything the entertainment industry dumps on us the second they dump it on us
― j., Saturday, 27 July 2019 06:14 (four years ago) link
of course not! I was just struck by a lot of ppl here and elsewhere who had no idea this was even happening, I guess due to some combo of content saturation and insufficient marketing. the (not so hot) movie happening seemed like a bigger deal by contrast
― Simon H., Saturday, 27 July 2019 06:17 (four years ago) link
i’m watching this sporadically only bc i am mired waist-deep in my yearly Tour De France obsessionbut i LOVE ITdef the best it’s been since maybe s2 solid joeks, good tension, lots of good Leo moments & Logan moments - on board with all of itto my shame i though the new theme song was Aimee Mann but mr Veg informed me that it was in fact Chrissy Hynde - excellent version either way
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 27 July 2019 06:28 (four years ago) link
I guessed Aimee too!
― Simon H., Saturday, 27 July 2019 06:33 (four years ago) link
also general observation I fucking love VM’s character. She bridges the gap btw Buffy & Jessica Jones for me Buffy is the self doubting prom queen & Jessica the straightup alcoholic fuckup. VM isn’t the echo of former perfection nor is she the horsewoman of the apocalypse. She’s smart but dumb at life in a relatable way. There’s something so endearing about how human she is, the mistakes she makes, visibly emotionally scarred & afraid to move on & shoving it all down to cope ... not doing great but not completely sucking wind ... idk. Been thinking about her a lot and I just really love the normcoreness of her, even though she is obv exceptional in unique ways too.
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 27 July 2019 06:37 (four years ago) link
Yes! I really appreciated her casual drug use / ability to indulge without it being tied to Being Damaged or whatever. I thought they did a great job of making her complicated and a little difficult but by no means totally dysfunctional.
― Simon H., Saturday, 27 July 2019 06:41 (four years ago) link
Similarly, while Logan has never been my favorite character nor Dohring my favorite actor, there was something immensely refreshing about depicting someone who earnestly left the worst of themselves behind thanks to hard work and time. Too much lazy, cynical and unthinking "people never change" antihero shit out there
― Simon H., Saturday, 27 July 2019 06:46 (four years ago) link
Totally!
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 27 July 2019 15:32 (four years ago) link
only character beat I didn't buy was Veronica's respect for the FBI
― Simon H., Saturday, 27 July 2019 15:48 (four years ago) link
the original season 4 outline had her working for them.
― maura, Saturday, 27 July 2019 16:15 (four years ago) link
http://youtu.be/6xV5p_BndJs
― maura, Saturday, 27 July 2019 16:16 (four years ago) link
ep 3 joke spoiler: I had to pause and lose my shit at "Dom's(?) Sweet Release, that bakery at the edge of town that only employs ex-cons"
― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Saturday, 27 July 2019 16:21 (four years ago) link
people may not be talking about it too because it's on Hulu. I am waiting a bit longer to search for it online.
― Yerac, Saturday, 27 July 2019 16:43 (four years ago) link
yeah Hulu is only available through Crave in Canada so you have to pay for two services to get at it, which fuck that tbh
― Simon H., Saturday, 27 July 2019 16:45 (four years ago) link
i just finished the new season
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO😫😫😫😫😫😫😫😫🥺
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 28 July 2019 04:27 (four years ago) link
Yeah, with Veg here on all her posts, except on the new theme music (which sounds to me like she got all the money up front).
One thing I'd add is that this season does a great job on handling the who of the whodunnit (considering that I had the culprit in season 2 pegged from the first episode).
― Coelacanth Green (Leee), Monday, 29 July 2019 18:32 (four years ago) link
i'm on episode 6. i already know the big spoiler (heartbroken lol) but i've been really enjoying this despite... many awkward moments (did this season need two drinking/partying montages?)
― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 29 July 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link
regardless it's more consistent than both seasons 2 and 3 and the overarching mystery is weirdly... fun? jk simmons helps in this department
― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 29 July 2019 18:42 (four years ago) link
ryan hansen is wonderful as always though i have trouble squaring new harmless idiot dick with the former actively harmful guy who indirectly roofied veronica
― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 29 July 2019 18:45 (four years ago) link
i also love the hitmen, a delightful performance by clifton collins jr. especially
― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 29 July 2019 18:47 (four years ago) link
I didn't recognize Dick at first and thought he was Bradley Cooper!
― Coelacanth Green (Leee), Monday, 29 July 2019 19:10 (four years ago) link
In the beach volleyball scene, were the two ringers meant to be Misty May + Kerri Walsh but the show wasn't actually able to get them?
― Coelacanth Green (Leee), Monday, 29 July 2019 19:12 (four years ago) link
And this needs to happen:
“They would all be eight-episode mysteries,” Thomas said about his vision for future seasons. “For Season 5 the ideas I have been noodling with have all been kind of Agatha Christie in that Murder In the Manor House sort of idea.
― Coelacanth Green (Leee), Monday, 29 July 2019 19:15 (four years ago) link
― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, July 29, 2019 1:45 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
man go back and remind yourself what shithead logan is at the beginning of the show
― na (NA), Monday, 29 July 2019 19:52 (four years ago) link
i thought this was fine. we had started rewatching the original run but didn't get that far before new season started, so i was pretty lost about who most of the fan-service cameos were. meanwhile, the couple of characters i do remember (mac, piz) didn't show up.
i had a visceral hatred reaction to the new theme song when i first came up. so tuneless. but it grew on me a little.
― na (NA), Monday, 29 July 2019 19:54 (four years ago) link
I absolutely died at "is Piz back there?"
― Simon H., Monday, 29 July 2019 19:55 (four years ago) link
BIG SPOILER BELOW
...
did the ultimate bad guy really have to end up being the most famous (non-original-run) actor in the show? is this columbo?
― na (NA), Monday, 29 July 2019 19:55 (four years ago) link
well somebody had to do it
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 29 July 2019 19:57 (four years ago) link
he is not more famous than JK Simmons!
― Simon H., Monday, 29 July 2019 19:58 (four years ago) link
he did it too though!
― na (NA), Monday, 29 July 2019 19:58 (four years ago) link
also that's arguable
JK has 4x the google hits, an Oscar and a big MCU part! not close.
― Simon H., Monday, 29 July 2019 20:03 (four years ago) link
― na (NA), Monday, July 29, 2019 12:52 PM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
lmao listen, I KNOW
― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 29 July 2019 20:09 (four years ago) link
i rewatched the show last year and spent the first half of season one tabulating every racist joke logan makes at weevil's expense, but as soon as logan and veronica kissed the goddamn memory wipe happened all over again
― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 29 July 2019 20:11 (four years ago) link
Season 5 should be Maddie and Veronica Cagney and Laceying it up in Chicago or something.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 29 July 2019 20:12 (four years ago) link
I would watch roughly 10,000 more seasons of this length/quality regardless of setting tbh
― Simon H., Monday, 29 July 2019 20:15 (four years ago) link
yeah I just want to see her zinging people, solving mysteries, and sometimes getting blindsided by one of her close friends or family members telling her she's CROSSED THE LINE this time.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 29 July 2019 20:22 (four years ago) link
getting gradually more disappointed in people and institutions / gradually disappointing more people and institutions
― Simon H., Monday, 29 July 2019 20:26 (four years ago) link
with the caveat that if/when Colantoni quits acting or croaks there should be no more show
― Simon H., Monday, 29 July 2019 20:27 (four years ago) link
― maura, Monday, 29 July 2019 20:27 (four years ago) link
i would watch so many more seasons if they are anything like the calibre of this oneSO good but plz Rob Thomas no more braek heart
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 29 July 2019 22:53 (four years ago) link
can we get cybill in season 5? make it happen!
― untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 29 July 2019 23:27 (four years ago) link
I got taken in by this and kept expecting him to pop up, so well played.
― Coelacanth Green (Leee), Monday, 29 July 2019 23:37 (four years ago) link
so happy there was no Piz
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 01:12 (four years ago) link
i unfortunately love piz but i'm fine with him not being here, feel like that relationship is pretty expired by the movie
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 02:46 (four years ago) link
anyway i enjoyed this very much despite some loose moments as i mentioned earlier. feel like they could get into a real groove with another season pls
logan was doomed, rip :((((((((
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 02:47 (four years ago) link
^^^ sorry ENORMOUS SPOILER i forgot everyone was being coy
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 03:01 (four years ago) link
can’t believe Piz gunned him down, really a left turn in the plot
― untuned mass damper (mh), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 03:22 (four years ago) link
lol
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 03:33 (four years ago) link
Maddie was very good, I though. Well inserted.
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 08:59 (four years ago) link
Matty is also on iZombie, playing a very similar character.
― Coelacanth Green (Leee), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 20:14 (four years ago) link
Finally watched this and:
i just finished the new seasonNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO😫😫😫😫😫😫😫😫🥺
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
😫😫😫😫😫😫😫😫🥺
great season but gahh heartbroken. Goddamn this show.
― Roz, Monday, 12 August 2019 14:01 (four years ago) link
I have two episodes left to go but Jason Dohring is really bringing that izombie catatonic acting to VM.
― Yerac, Monday, 12 August 2019 15:42 (four years ago) link
the overall banter though is still so delightful though.
― Yerac, Monday, 12 August 2019 15:43 (four years ago) link
Need to watch! Thank you for reminder!
― ian, Monday, 12 August 2019 16:05 (four years ago) link
I needed more of Veronica's new dog. Also, had the same strong dislike of new theme song at first but now it's whatevs.
― Yerac, Monday, 12 August 2019 16:15 (four years ago) link
I need them to greenlight another season
― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Monday, 12 August 2019 16:17 (four years ago) link
yeah not a fan of the new theme song, sorry Chrissie.
not enough Wallace or Weevil this season imo, Mac was missed, though I enjoyed the extended time with Dep... Agent Leo, my second favourite Veronica boyfriend.
and lol @ all the former villains (Liam Fitzpatrick, Tim the TA, Mercer the rapist) showing up for exactly one scene each.
― Roz, Monday, 12 August 2019 16:39 (four years ago) link
Love Logan but he did seem a trifle lobotomized this season, I can see what Veronica was complaining about.
― Lily Dale, Monday, 12 August 2019 17:21 (four years ago) link
Maybe it's the $cient0l0gy?
― Coelacanth Green (Leee), Monday, 12 August 2019 17:28 (four years ago) link
what? oh, no!
― untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 12 August 2019 18:08 (four years ago) link
noooooooo
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 07:20 (four years ago) link
https://tonyortega.org/2019/07/28/scientology-uses-actor-jason-dohring-as-bait-in-what-ends-up-as-a-false-imprisonment-case/
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 10:01 (four years ago) link
using the phrase "by NY Times best-selling author L. Ron Hubbard" on a flier for a seminar held at the actual CoS Celebrity Center is some amazing "we're reeling in people who know as little as possible" work
going to drop it now, but this is good sc1entology thread material and I don't want to sully the VM thread
― untuned mass damper (mh), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 15:58 (four years ago) link
ha, I almost brought up the scientology thing but I didn't want to make a mean joke because I haven't finished the final two episodes yet and saw the spoilers above.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:23 (four years ago) link
Wait, I only had to pay for Crave to watch it. I binged it over the last two days since I had a cold. Ending = holy shit. It was addictive and good drama/suspense. I do appreciate how they've adapted the show to everyone being 15 years older. Not sure if it was good mystery.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Thursday, 29 August 2019 04:06 (four years ago) link
yeah the mystery was kinda “Agatha Christie starter kit”
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 29 August 2019 04:18 (four years ago) link
tbh the mysteries on the show have never been all that great/distinctive. they're more just skeletons to hang the characters, relationships, perilous ethical/moral landscape and mood on.
― Simon H., Thursday, 29 August 2019 04:23 (four years ago) link
s1 had the best one and it was pretty much just Twin Peaks redux
― Simon H., Thursday, 29 August 2019 04:24 (four years ago) link
Hm, well, Twin Peaks reimagined as a naturalistic traditional mystery story is p much what I want from TV. Even with that one, though, iirc, the answer was m/l just revealed via the deux ex machina of the videotapes in the last episode? I feel like there were some solid mysteries of the week, which they've done away with altogether, although I'd have to rewatch to recall what they were.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 30 August 2019 19:59 (four years ago) link
Rewatching s1 does seem like a good use of the month of Crave I've signed up for.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 30 August 2019 20:04 (four years ago) link
Speaking of Peaks-a-like shows: I found the first season of Northern Exposure for 25p a couple of days ago. That was compared to TP a lot, wasn’t it? I don’t think I ever watched it.
― Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Friday, 30 August 2019 20:09 (four years ago) link
compared?? related 'quirky' northwest settings maybe but
― j., Friday, 30 August 2019 20:24 (four years ago) link
lol yeah that is not a good comparison at all
VM is more bad-ass PI (meaning a cop without a police structure) than sherlock-style clue detection for sure
― rob, Friday, 30 August 2019 20:29 (four years ago) link
Veronica's deep, deep damage really coming to the forefront in this season made for fascinating viewing, I thought, great writing and great exploration of the character from Kristen Bell.
― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Friday, 30 August 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link
Yep, and it helped them to sidestep the most obvious/familiar potential sources of drama btwn Veronica and Logan (ie infidelity, Logan being a fuckup, etc)
― Simon H., Friday, 30 August 2019 20:34 (four years ago) link
I don't see how they can do veronica dirtier than they did this season but if they make another I'm sure they'll figure out a way b/c the genre probably demands that she won't get a break
― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Friday, 30 August 2019 20:36 (four years ago) link
I'm not the only one! https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/tv-lists/20-tv-shows-most-influenced-by-twin-peaks-126797/northern-exposure-114701/ I'm just dimly remembering marketing from nearly 30 years ago...
― Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Friday, 30 August 2019 20:40 (four years ago) link
yeah maybe her and Dick will hit the road and compare "my life is a series of horrors" stories
― rob, Friday, 30 August 2019 20:46 (four years ago) link
xp well, marketers are shameless
― j., Friday, 30 August 2019 20:47 (four years ago) link
it's like Sherlock Holmes, there's no need to show Veronica progressing (the death knell of many awesome genre shows)... she can just be a deeply damaged badass over and over again
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 30 August 2019 22:19 (four years ago) link
I super hope they don't bring back Piz or dunkindonut next season.
― Yerac, Friday, 30 August 2019 23:18 (four years ago) link
Northern Exposure intermittently had a supernatural weirdness that could be Twin Peaks-y I guess.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 30 August 2019 23:58 (four years ago) link
It started in 1990 - twin peaks was perhaps an obvious touchstone (though I guess I’ll have to watch it to find out if it was the writers or the critics doing the touching)
― Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Saturday, 31 August 2019 08:19 (four years ago) link
Ha, reviewing the first two eps, I had forgotten how much the show emphasized beatdowns as a model for adolescent conflict resolution.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Saturday, 31 August 2019 20:22 (four years ago) link
halfway through this new season and I'm loving it - it's aged exactly as it should, perfectly in sync with its audience. One small thing though, has Weevil always looked like a pre-teen dressed up as 90's gangsta for Halloween? Or did they make it worse by trying to age the character?
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 12:14 (four years ago) link
https://www.cbr.com/veronica-mars-tina-majorino-rob-thomas-book-report-promise/
― Johnny Grottan from the Skeks Pistols (Leee), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 23:09 (four years ago) link
I'm avoiding the recent part of this thread because I haven't been able to see this yet- but could some kind person have a look at this DVD on Amazon and see if it looks like s4 from the description etc? It's labelled season 1 but released 22 October 2019. Thanks!
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Veronica-Mars-Complete-First-Season/dp/B07VBH7242/
― kinder, Friday, 25 October 2019 11:55 (four years ago) link
Description is def the new season
― dan selzer, Friday, 25 October 2019 11:58 (four years ago) link
thank you! Weird that it's "The Complete First Season"
― kinder, Friday, 25 October 2019 12:06 (four years ago) link
don't buy things from amazon
― conrad, Friday, 25 October 2019 15:29 (four years ago) link
The cover looks like Veronica Mars combined with Leatherface
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 25 October 2019 15:49 (four years ago) link
well this was a ball!I really enjoyed watching it but also had this weird feeling of unease a lot of the time. Maybe it was Logan's 'keeping in the anger' or maybe it was all the adult dialogue which sat oddly at first (I can't remember if the movie was like that), or maybe I couldn't quite get a feel for some of the characters? idk.
― kinder, Thursday, 7 November 2019 22:23 (four years ago) link
Forgive the thread spam, but I wanted to note that this show's 2019 season is nominated in the 2019 ILX TV poll:
ILX's Best Television of 2019 Poll / VOTING AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD / Voting Ends January 31
If you like this show and you'd like to see it have a good showing in the poll (running in February) all you need to do is submit a ballot including it and your other favorites (4 minimum, 25 maximum, organized by your favorite to least favorite) to forksclovetofu at gmail by end of day today. It'll take five minutes; get to it!
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 31 January 2020 14:30 (four years ago) link
trying to do a rewatch and made it through s2 fine but s3 really feels like work. I hate Piz !
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, 13 September 2020 06:59 (three years ago) link
welcome to the club
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 13 September 2020 14:07 (three years ago) link
I figure after Piz’s Pitchfork internship fell through he probably became a bitter ilxor
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Sunday, 13 September 2020 14:19 (three years ago) link
piz is too ridiculous a creation for me to hate
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 13 September 2020 15:15 (three years ago) link
or maybe not ridiculous in and of himself so much as i think it's ridiculous that someone wrote him and put him in a show
the kiss scene between piz and veronica is all time, despite his shortcomings
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 13 September 2020 15:19 (three years ago) link
Piz is named after one of the show’s directors iirc.
found myself unexpectedly rooting for Piz in the VM movie though! He was nice and clean and cute there compared to the still volatile Logan.
― Roz, Sunday, 13 September 2020 15:50 (three years ago) link
I barely remember Piz tbh. Was s3 the one with the Stanford Prison Experiment storyline?
― The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Sunday, 13 September 2020 15:53 (three years ago) link
yes! featuring rider strong
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 13 September 2020 15:53 (three years ago) link
Yep lol. Season 3 was a chore tbf, way too many subplots and new characters no one cared about.
― Roz, Sunday, 13 September 2020 15:57 (three years ago) link
i remember preferring the third season to the second
i think 1 >>>> 4 > 3 > 2
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 13 September 2020 16:13 (three years ago) link
i can't hate piz when he's so great in glee
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 13 September 2020 16:14 (three years ago) link
i mean, er, glow
iirc 2 mainly suffers from the long format season, so much filler and the stakes just go up and up and up until it's even more ridiculous than usual
― unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Sunday, 13 September 2020 16:17 (three years ago) link
I would still take it over 3 tho
all relationships on this show dwarfed completely by veronica and keith's. although i am fond of veronica/wallace early seasons friendship.
― oscar bravo, Sunday, 13 September 2020 16:17 (three years ago) link
In my head this became Knives Out
― kinder, Sunday, 13 September 2020 16:28 (three years ago) link
Oh yeah Glow totally rehabilitate pix for me.
― dan selzer, Sunday, 13 September 2020 16:38 (three years ago) link
Logan is so f-ing tortured and hot in the movie. You can't blame her for throwing over bland NY guy even while your higher brain is going "NNNNOOOOOOO!" as she caroms right off a cliff.
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Sunday, 13 September 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link
I liked season 4's exploration of that aspect of the Veronica/Logan dynamic
― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Sunday, 13 September 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link
yeah that was my favorite part of the whole season, novel and thoughtful
― unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Sunday, 13 September 2020 18:07 (three years ago) link
Liz works for Ira Glass in the movie, right? He’s not even living in the same universe as Veronica
― mh, Sunday, 13 September 2020 19:46 (three years ago) link
I haven’t seen 4 yet. But I loved s2, flawed as it may be. S3 tho... the feminists vs comedians stuff ... the dean who Veronica has to charm... that I’m supposed to care if piz gets a radio show... the weird Stanford prison thing ... the only good plot so far (I’m just a few eps in) is Keith at the cabin (RIP Kendall)
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, 13 September 2020 21:24 (three years ago) link
Also piz in the movie might as well be a plot device designed to irritate Veronica who clearly is better off w Logan chemistry
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, 13 September 2020 21:25 (three years ago) link
just now noticed my autocorrect issue. Liz was obviously meant to be Piz
― mh, Sunday, 13 September 2020 21:29 (three years ago) link
S3 ended strong
S4 was A+ but that ending ... :( X infinity
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Friday, 18 September 2020 14:17 (three years ago) link
I kinda admire Rob Thomas for the honesty of directly admitting that he mainly killed off Logan cause he had no concept of how VM could be a continuing, interesting story if Veronica is happy/content
― Simon H., Friday, 18 September 2020 15:30 (three years ago) link
Unfortunately he seems to have misjudged interest—Are we getting a season 5? Man reviews of s4 were way more scathing than i realized
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Friday, 18 September 2020 19:05 (three years ago) link
I though it was pretty good! Surprised so many people care about logan anyway, it’s not like he blew up Keith
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 18 September 2020 19:20 (three years ago) link
So we have been rewatching Veronica Mars sporadically as it's been on a channel here. Finally got around to re-watching the movie a couple of weeks ago.Got a Lionsgate trial subscription to watch Party Down, and a ton of Mars Universe actors pop up in that, including Keith Mars.
The past few days, we decided to watch Contagion - thought it might be 'fun' after the pandemic. Anyway, Keith Mars again pops up in it, kinda weird.
Before ditching Lionsgate, thought we might as well watch Station Eleven (not yet convinced that was a good idea, not least right after Contagion). Anyway! Guess who rides up on a bike in that? Keith Mars again.I'm not complaining, I like seeing him. It's just a bit like he's following us about.
― kinder, Thursday, 20 July 2023 19:02 (nine months ago) link
wait until 90s sitcom Just Shoot Me shows up on streaming
― mh, Thursday, 20 July 2023 19:04 (nine months ago) link
Never heard of it! best one yet was Galaxy Quest.
― kinder, Thursday, 20 July 2023 19:44 (nine months ago) link
Party Down was created by the non-Matchbox Rob Thomas, who also created Veronica Mars
― symsymsym, Friday, 21 July 2023 01:26 (nine months ago) link
I, Zombie too. Keith Mars actor shows up there also.
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Friday, 21 July 2023 02:00 (nine months ago) link
I, Zombie of course is another Rob Thomas show - pretty much all of the main veronica mars actors appeared on that show at some point
― Roz, Friday, 21 July 2023 02:14 (nine months ago) link
I, Juggalo
― serving bundt (sic), Friday, 21 July 2023 05:58 (nine months ago) link
I revisited high school romance comedy Drive Me Crazy, which I hadn't realized (but have now learned) was scripted by Rob Thomas. When it came out in November 1999, it was third in a series of similarly themed flicks that year – after She's All That and 10 Things I Hate About You – and while it's less flashy than those two, it has a certain low-key appeal and degree of "realism" that generate particular interest. The dialogue is a step above, and there are certain character beats that reflect Thomas's skill & sensibilities. Cool soundtrack, too...
― Hippie Ernie (morrisp), Sunday, 3 March 2024 00:32 (two months ago) link