alan shearer - c or d

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weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:11 (twenty-two years ago)

He's a wanker

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:15 (twenty-two years ago)

He's a wanker but classic

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:15 (twenty-two years ago)

He's no Larsson.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:16 (twenty-two years ago)

he's too much dearer than solsjkaer

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:16 (twenty-two years ago)

alan has too plain a personality to be deemed a wanker!!!

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:16 (twenty-two years ago)

i don't see how he is a wanker or worse than Larsson. a bit dull granted (tho i love his solemn defiance in interviews) but a brilliant player and very much classic in the meat and potatoes vein. only flaw may be in shoddy Mcdonalds endorsements.

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:18 (twenty-two years ago)

ok so i find shearer's presence at the top of the premiership goaslscoring charts (well, the top 2/3/4 whatever) comforting and familiar and reassuring. he's very very effective on the football pitch, but boringly effective, so when he first started scoring 25-30 goals a season i hated him and was dying for him to show signs of weakness. now i want him to go on scoring forever. classic.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Who was it who said that Alan Shearer is the sort of bloke who throws his wife onto the bed and promptly hoovers the spot where she'd been standing?

Japanese Giraffe (Japanese Giraffe), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyone who can score that many goals that consistently AND at the highest level too cannot surely not be considered a dud - however dull he may be personally. Could be worse, he could be Michael Owen - possibly the dullest homo sapien ever

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:22 (twenty-two years ago)

gullit called him overrated recently, which was silly cos the things that cause ppl to rate shearer are very evident and undeniable and present for long stretches of each match.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:22 (twenty-two years ago)

he's good at winning them freekicks outside the box.

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:26 (twenty-two years ago)

he's a durty divin'/hackin' MAGGIE BASTAD

obv.

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Who was it who said that Alan Shearer is the sort of bloke who throws his wife onto the bed and promptly hoovers the spot where she'd been standing?
-- Japanese Giraffe

that was Nick Hancock, They Think It's All Over ;)

(see also the sort of bloke who celebrates opening a 9 point lead at the top of the table by creosoting his garden fence)

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:28 (twenty-two years ago)

there will be no Owen-bashing here either

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Michael Owen - didn't he recently bore a man to death?

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:32 (twenty-two years ago)

shearer's garden fence must be very rusty nowadays

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:33 (twenty-two years ago)

to be fair Dadaismus I think you did most of the loosening of that jar and Owen merely had to unscrew the lid once loosened

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:35 (twenty-two years ago)

To be fair stevem, fuck you

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:36 (twenty-two years ago)

chill you two, this is the thread for praising the balding, ox-like shearer.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:37 (twenty-two years ago)

He's a wanker. Always kept a good rep despite being a sly dirty fucker, should have been properly reprimanded for kicking Lennon.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:38 (twenty-two years ago)

And not for insulting one another, thank you

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:38 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm not sure how 'sly' shearer's overbearing physicality was ronan. he used to just fly in with the old elbows, the fact that the referees refused to punish him is their problem!!!

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Je lui adore

the magfox, Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:40 (twenty-two years ago)

sly dirty fucker like about 200 other players. has received only one red card in his career and that was Uriah Rennie's stupidest, practically childish, decision ever. can you argue with the maths that much? is Shearer really that intimidating to referees on the pitch? he's hardly Keane.

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, Alan Shearer does have an uncanny knack for getting away with some pretty atrocious stuff on the pitch. Dull as ditchwater off the pitch.

However his goal record is fucking great by anyone's standards and I kind of respect him for sticking with Newcastle throughout seasons of midtable mediocrity instead of bleating "ooh I want to be in the Champions League and I'll leave otherwise". And I'd be secretly happy if he played for England in Euro2004.

Jury's out then.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Not just that though, I remember one game against Villa where he ran across Bosnich and pulled his arm as on the SLY as the ball was being kicked, causing him to utterly fuck up the kick-out.

Keane was not sly though that's the difference, he stood up and was counted. Shearer got away with too much because since he was English and scoring goals for England (and essential to England) he was never branded with a rep like Vieira or Keane.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Also it was his fucking elbow that put England out of France 98 and no one ever seems to mention that.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the dullness is over-stated. Is it a consequence of his on-pitch brilliance? Ronaldo is dull off the pitch for chrissakes, that's not what we pay them for (leave that to Nikesico)

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Also it was his fucking elbow that put England out of France 98 and no one ever seems to mention that.

this cannot be pinned down to any one thing. Beckham, Ince, Batty, Roa and the ref are all just as significant factors as Shearer's elbow.

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:47 (twenty-two years ago)

okay i concede Shearer got away with a lot...but there's an interesting thing going on here where if you were to ask if Vieira, Keane, Cantona etc. were classic or dud I think you'd get the unanimous 'classic...but a dirty bastad' as well, and they're possibly all perceived to be MORE classic than Shearer because they're considered less dull as people and their petulance is better-documented, almost celebrated.

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, they're better players too and they won more trophies.

Contrary to what Matt says I think Shearer was unambitious not to leave Newcastle. Same goes for him quitting England. When you look at his ability he's had a very disappointing career.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Could you imagine late 90s Manyoo with Shearer upfront? Frightening.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Does Shearer have any trophies to his name other than the Premiership title with Blackburn?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:59 (twenty-two years ago)

dunno about BETTER players. Shearer WAS ambitious but also idealistic and seemed to feel that trophies wouldn't mean half as much unless they were won with Newcastle. maybe that's not true, but he surely joined the club believing they could become a real force and not just out of homesickness. so I wouldn't lump him in with Le Tissier or Steve Bull in that respect (their loyalty admirable but was there real ambition there?).

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Lineker only won the title with a club once too didn't he?

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Surely Shearer fulfilled part of his ambition by playing for Newcastle, undoubtedly he'd have won more trophies at ManU, L'pool, Arsenal etc but it's not what he was interested in.

He'll fulfill the rest of his ambition when he suceeds Sir Bob as manager in a year or two's time.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:02 (twenty-two years ago)

A great goalscorer and an exciting lover.

Remember France 98 when all the England team were giving media interviews and dropping song titles into them? They would have got away with it if Shearer hadn't said "we've been dancing on the ceiling." Only Alan would come up with a Lionel Richie song.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah I still think he should have left at some stage. He's never going to be considered as good a player as he could have been.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Michael Owen - didn't he recently bore a man to death?
-- Dadaismus (kcoyne3...), April 13th, 2004.

No, Houlier recovered from the heart attack.

matthew james (matthew james), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Erm

Mikey G (Mikey G), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I admire his loyalty and appreciate his desire to have a settled, stable life rather than chase trophies and ca$h wherever whim and luck may have taken him. I wouldn't be too pissed off if I was him looking back over his career.

(also I don't see why being the Premiership's top goalscorer at 33 while playing for a mediocre team disaqualifies him in Ronan's eyes. If he's happy and loves his club I'm sure he's giving it his all. Better than being a bernchwarmer in the highly pressurised top rung of club football. Ronan, try and look on the positive side for once, Christ!)

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes I am incessantly pompous and oblivious amn't I?

Oh did I just type that!

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I feel Shearer's career is disappointing, staying at his club was in my opinion a mistake. I feel lots of other players have fulfilled their potential. It's not even a matter of negative/positive. I think it's quite clear he could have won more, and besides, do you expect me to say something I don't think for the sake of "being positive", or your fairly spurious idea of positivity.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:19 (twenty-two years ago)

but if you asked most pundits to pick their top 5 players of the Premiership, I reckon Shearer would be many people's first choice because of the prolificness and consistency he provided where so many others could not, in spite of the empty trophy cabinet.

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:21 (twenty-two years ago)

it's not a given he would've won more Ronan. Unless you mean he should've gone to Man Utd or to a big Italian club (he learned Italian with this view in mind but it never happened)..but who knows how it would've worked out either way.

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:23 (twenty-two years ago)

stevem has a point. he was bought for massive money by a big club who were spending a lot of money to build a title-chasing team. it wasn't like le tiss who stayed at a club who were never ever gonna compete for anything - shearer showed ambition, but the club never quite got off the ground in the way they wished (still had some strong seasons)

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:26 (twenty-two years ago)

If Shearer had gone to Italy or Spain he'd be a God now. I've watched Celtic be outplayed by two Spanish teams this seasons - outplayed in the sense of out-passed and out-thought but could either of them score? OK so Villarreal fluked a header but they could still be playing NOW and they wouldn't have scored another.

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the memory of him will always be purely an English one and in today's game that's not enough really, there are bigger opportunities. I mean whatever about not leaving Newcastle, retiring from England ASWELL. That does show a total lack of ambition or drive to take on things on the international stage.

x-post, he stayed for ages though!

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Players who score goals are gold dust - Shearer scores goals

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Surely he is not boring - look at the hilarious way he participated in the 'drop song titles into the press conference answers' game?

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:29 (twenty-two years ago)

xpost.

Dadrockismus is becoming positively Martian.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:30 (twenty-two years ago)

People were practically begging Shearer to retire from international duty by the time he actually did though. Although I think in that respect he was tarnished by the Keegan period of England and over-reliance on past-it players.

Shearer could still win a major trophy with Newcastle, I might add.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:30 (twenty-two years ago)

they almost won the premiership once... you know that one where kevin keegan would have "luved" to win?

i mean, you weren't really going to win the premiership unless you joined man u or arsenal. in fact, shearer was in the only other team who won the premiership in the past 10 years, well, ever.....

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:31 (twenty-two years ago)

xpost obv, "they" at the start = newcastle

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:32 (twenty-two years ago)

the retirement from the international stage was a decision motivated partly by a desire to concentrate on winning something with Newcastle and partly to allow a fresher younger pair of legs to run on for England. Shearer was probably not very keen on the appointment of Erikkson at first and could see the problems it would cause perhaps. I don't think any of this was about ambition.

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:32 (twenty-two years ago)

We're talking about Shearer, not me, Jerry

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I think it's automatically about ambition because if he really had enough of it he wouldn't have allowed himself to do that kind of thing.

OK Keane retired from Irish football but this was after a major bust up and also Keane is desperate to win in Europe again, more than anything else I suspect. If Keane was at a side not getting into Europe he'd have been gone quicksmart.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:34 (twenty-two years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38963000/jpg/_38963713_hollangdgi_245x245.jpg

here he is scoring from one of the most beautiful sequences of play i've ever seen, in one of the most beautiful performances i've ever seen

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:35 (twenty-two years ago)

is that the goal set up by sheringham against holland?

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:36 (twenty-two years ago)

xpost

He played in the Euro and World cup competitions, so he hardly lacked ambition in that respect. His retirement from the England team competition has made him twice the clube player he'd be otherwise.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:36 (twenty-two years ago)

but who's that behind him? the real genius behind the Venables machine - Darren Anderton?

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:36 (twenty-two years ago)

his trademark goal celebration shows a real lack of ambition. why only raise the one hand? why did he never go the whole way and raise both? why did he never deviate from this formula? no ambition!

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Shearer wasn't always ace for England anyway, there were times when he deserved to be dropped but he never was because it was illegal to give Robbie Fowler a decent chance at international level (or Steve McManaman for that matter, particularly when there were Spurs players around)

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think Shearer's decision to retire had anything to do with Eriksson considering his last game in an England shirt was when we got knocked out of Euro2000 - ie before Keegan quit and before anyone knew Sven was even in the picture.

Keane retired from Irish football because of what he perceived as LACK of ambition and professionalism from the Irish FA and even some of the other players. Different kettle of fish entirely.

I stand by my admiration of Shearer for sticking with Newcastle. I don't want a footballing world where ALL the top players are automatically hoovered up by the top five or six clubs in Europe and I don't think all those Liverpool fans who stand to lose Michael Owen do either.

The one-hand thing is really annoying. Not so much so in an England shirt mind.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:39 (twenty-two years ago)

does anyone remember the MOTD where shearer revealed the key to his success - a pre-match meal of chicken and beans? it was in his blackburn days. the sheer banality of that could only be masterful self-parody. actually, it probably isn't. me, brother and father still refer to him as Chicken and Beans Shearer. i wonder if it's still his pre-match meal...

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I do remember that yeah! Weird

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:47 (twenty-two years ago)

As a player he scored goals efficiently for club but had a slow start to his international career, took a while to get going and got out at the right time.

He once said that there is no need to practise penalties at all, that you couldn't recreate the atmosphere, which I couldn't agree with: surely lesser scoring talents than him do need to plan and think abt taking a penalty and get even just a feel for it.

Practice makes a diff and its that sort of attitude that destroyed england's chances in the '91 world cup and euro '96.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:50 (twenty-two years ago)

What is the '91 World Cup of which you speak?

Shearer was injured during most of Graham Taylor's reign wasn't he, which might account for his slow start?

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:52 (twenty-two years ago)

He's missed quite a few penalties in recent years

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Rugby.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm disappointed that Ronan didn't use the phrase "Spurs mafia" this time. It always amused me that Darren Anderton would barely kick a ball all season and then walk straight into the England squad for a major tournament nicking Ray Parlour's place.

The only other players regularly anywhere near the England squad were Cambell and Sheringham, and Teddy's partnership with Shearer was something special particularly in Euro96 against Holland. Quite why Keegan overlooked him when he was in the form of his life at Man U was a mystery to me.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:54 (twenty-two years ago)

.... England manager in not picking best English players shockah!

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:56 (twenty-two years ago)

(Also McManaman started every game in Euro96 but we'll let that one pass)

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:57 (twenty-two years ago)

sorry 1990.

I know he wasn't involved, but there has always this attitude regarding penalties, but i know, unfair to pick on him for this.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 12:57 (twenty-two years ago)

you can practice penalties until the cows come marching home but there's no guarantee those cows will yield milk

big ron (blueski), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 13:00 (twenty-two years ago)

That was about the only chance McManaman ever got, and it's not as if the players who kept him out were fantastic.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 13:02 (twenty-two years ago)

For them to yield milk you need plenty of bottle(s)

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 13:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Now I am imagining Ron Atkinson's big grinning face under a cow.

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 13:02 (twenty-two years ago)

remember Shearer's big England goal draught (from friendly with USA in '94 right up to England's first match in Euro 96)? not sure if Scholes has surpassed it yet or not - probably he has.

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 13:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Anderton is the ultimate 'if only he could reproduce his international form at club level'

Mcmanaman is the ultimate 'if only he could reproduce his club form at international level', alongside a Mr John 'Welcome to Five Football Special aka No I Can't Believe We Couldn't Get Anyone Else To Do This Either Next Page' Barnes

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 13:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I remember when we used to cry 'Scholes scores goals' and 'He's a little ginger Pele' to the theme of Bridge over the River Kwai (except for one incident in 1998 when we cried 'He's a little ginger Maradona' because he cheated horribly to win a goal).

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 13:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Anderton - if only he could walk, it'd be a start

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 13:06 (twenty-two years ago)

when I was playing football, yesterday, I had SHEARER 9, on my back.

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 13:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Hang on, maybe it's not 'Bridge over the River Kwai' - that's the Hitler's only got one ball one, isn't it? The one that goes der der de de, der der de de, der der, der der, der DER, anyway

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 13:07 (twenty-two years ago)

But McManaman was never given a chance to produce what he did at Liverpool at international level, how many caps did he get?

As far as I recall he was good enough in Euro 96 anyway!

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 13:08 (twenty-two years ago)

i thought it was glenn hoddle who made the "you can't practice penalties" remark.

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 13:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Tel liked Macca but the problem was fitting him into a conventional formation. or a formal convention.

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 13:10 (twenty-two years ago)

didn't mcmananaman play mostly on the right wing - i guess they found beckham after 96.

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 13:11 (twenty-two years ago)

the Dutch practiced penalties ardently prior to World Cup 98 and Euro 2000 iirc

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 13:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Macca: 37 caps. 3 goals (a respectable is not amazing return). TMFD.

Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 13:12 (twenty-two years ago)

colonel bogey.

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 13:12 (twenty-two years ago)

if, not is.

Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 13:12 (twenty-two years ago)

hahahah they should practice qualifying instead!!!

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 13:13 (twenty-two years ago)

capital footwork!

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 13:13 (twenty-two years ago)

The Dutch are great at practising for any brawls which occur too.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 13:13 (twenty-two years ago)

are you calling my Oranjeboom a poof?

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 13:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Morrissey to thread, re. chants

the redfox, Tuesday, 13 April 2004 13:21 (twenty-two years ago)

HE'S NOT GOIING TO COME.

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 13:25 (twenty-two years ago)

The other reason for McManaman's international decline (aside from not actually passing or crossing the ball very well after all those nice dribbling runs down the wing) was that it was pretty tricky to fit wingers into Hoddle's precious fucking 5-3-2 formation, as Simon Davies found out at Spurs.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 13:26 (twenty-two years ago)

we forget how that cruciate lig injury took away from his game; when he had some pace after euro96 he was pretty unstoppable. but i always wonder why recovered-from-serious-injury players seem to lose the power of evil freekicks

i'll always prefer sir les, mind

prima fassy (mwah), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 13:35 (twenty-two years ago)

owen is so absurdly boring i've come to be quite fond of it

prima fassy (mwah), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 13:37 (twenty-two years ago)

C'mon - he's a GAMBLER and he will TAKE YOU BY SURPRISE.

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 13:38 (twenty-two years ago)


Even as a Newcastle fan I’ve never found it difficult to understand the criticism Shearer receives. Praise for his ‘loyalty’ doesn’t impress me. Staying at Newcastle has been very lucrative for him, especially given the alleged clauses in his contract determining he remains best paid player. Robson reportedly wanted to sell him to Liverpool (the club he allegedly supported as a boy) in the summer as this clause prevented him offering a contract to another ‘big name striker’ (prob Kluivert) see http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,1563,1160830,00.html

There isn’t a single Premiership player who has as much authority and power within his club as Shearer does at Newcastle, and that hasn’t always been healthy. When the previous manager wasn’t to his taste Shearer made sure the man got sacked. His own performance in Ruud Gullit’s penultimate game away against Southampton was so poor that many on Tyneside could understand why he was dropped for the following derby game against Sunderland.

That said his goal scoring record stands for itself. Even now, when he’s lost most of his pace and can be static, he’s still second top scorer in the EPL. I watched Shearer last Thursday as Newcastle laboured for a 1-1 draw away in Eindhoven. He spent most of the game trying to win the ball in the air to knock down to Bellamy, often getting punished by the ref, and looking very one dimensional. Then in the closing stages he got a half chance outside the are and hit the ball with a force that few strikers anywhere can match. It went narrowly over the bar but that ability to be in the right place with a ferocious strike, that’s Shearer.

stevo (stevo), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 13:46 (twenty-two years ago)

There was a brief fashion,among people who know Shearer, for mentioning what sparkling company he is in private. If that's true then I like him for being perverse enough to build himself such a dull public image.

Except, except... I worry that he might have done that because he sees himself as some kind of "last real footballer", a balding bulwark against the football-as-entertainment business. That would be awful and rockist, obv.

Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 14:32 (twenty-two years ago)

he is a niggly, awkward sod, the sort that defenders won't like to play against, and yes I was secretly thinking that if the rumour had come true and he'd gone to Liverpool two seasons ago it would have been great. He is a fantastic player.

Rennie's sending off of him for persistant foul play though? he deserved it, one sending off for a career full of shoves, barges elbows etc etc - seems fair enough.

and yes, it's Cruyff who's been saying that you can't practice penalties due to the lack of atmosphere at practice sessions. The whole penalty concept is excellently discussed in Brilliant Orange.

chris (chris), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 14:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I like shearer. There's a story of him at a Newcastle training session, told by Gullit of all people I believe. Ginola, and some of the other foreign fancy dans who were there at the time were in a little group, practising tricks. Inevitably they start to try and outdo eachother in the stylishness/amazing skill department, flicking the ball up and keeping it up with their legs, chest, shoulders etc. Shearer walks past and Ginola says 'Hey look at this! Bet you can't do this Alan.'
Shearer sighs, takes the ball, and proceeds to demonstrate that not only can he do what they're doing, but even more skilfully and masterfully. The players look on in awe, as with a parting shot Shearer bangs the ball into the net. 'I don't mind tricks, but there's got to be some purpose to it.'

de, Tuesday, 13 April 2004 15:19 (twenty-two years ago)

bless his boring bonce

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 15:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Goal of the season today?

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 25 April 2004 13:28 (twenty-two years ago)

i haven't seen it yet! was it something special? describe!

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Sunday, 25 April 2004 17:28 (twenty-two years ago)

A tremendous goal. He received it maybe 25 yards out in an inside-left position (haha, showing my age) with his back to goal and Desailly right behind him, and leant back on Marcel while he controlled it slightly away and to one side. Desailly took enough of a step back to give Shearer room to turn and swing, and he smashed a rocket into the far top corner.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 April 2004 18:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I am trying to think of a racist joke.

N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 25 April 2004 19:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh good. That's what football needs.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 April 2004 19:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I wasn't really.

N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 25 April 2004 19:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Why was the bloke off 606 going on about men wincing in sympathy? Did he get kicked in the bollox or something?

Shearer - up until 1997- Classic. Then a dud for 3 years as he becomes the one man automatycially on the england teamsheet when it was screamingly obvious he wasn't enjoying it; how Kevin Phillips must have wondered ahat he'd have to do to get a game that season.

Since his international retirement - classic again.

Dave B (daveb), Sunday, 25 April 2004 22:45 (twenty-two years ago)

shearer after the marseille game = downcast. seemed kind of pissed off with his team-mates, looked like a man who'd just missed his last chance of a european trophy. possibly he is regretting staying at newcastle this long.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Saturday, 8 May 2004 16:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Shearer's just missed a penalty v Wolves - it's 1-1 with five minutes left. Houllier may no longer have to set the video for Jobsearch each night.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 9 May 2004 14:47 (twenty-two years ago)

hooray/damn

Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 9 May 2004 14:48 (twenty-two years ago)

put him in my dream team, so obv. he won't score

stevem (blueski), Sunday, 9 May 2004 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Wins at St Mary's and Anfield will still do it for Sirbobby but right now it looks like they may not even overhaul Villa for a UEFA spot.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 9 May 2004 14:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Liverpool have had their two most convincing back to back wins in ages, possibly all season, still they've been so patchy you never know.

Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 9 May 2004 15:14 (twenty-two years ago)

"The bottom line is this, if Alan Shearer played for your club you'd think the sun shone out of his arse."

Quote from 'The Premiership's Greatest' 2004

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=109655

stevo (stevo), Sunday, 9 May 2004 16:23 (twenty-two years ago)

shearer misses header from two yards out, and turns in otherwise half-hearted performance in crucial game. oh dear.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)

guy is total dud

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 13 May 2004 09:01 (twenty-two years ago)

that wasn't a miss, it was a fantastic save

chris (chris), Thursday, 13 May 2004 09:15 (twenty-two years ago)

true but he could have placed it where it would be more difficult / impossible to save. he looked depressed for most of the game.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 13 May 2004 09:21 (twenty-two years ago)

it seemed to me he did everything right (well, you know what I mean). Basically I'm just bigging up the keeper.

agreed on Shearer looking depressed though, he did look out of sorts.

chris (chris), Thursday, 13 May 2004 09:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Was it Niemi in goal? He's been pretty shit-hot this season, up there with Carlo and TiHo as best keeper in the Premiership, I reckon. Liverpool or the Arse should be on the phone to his agent right now.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 13 May 2004 10:13 (twenty-two years ago)

it was a debut goallie called blainey. niemi is great, though.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 13 May 2004 10:14 (twenty-two years ago)

three months pass...
shearer dropped. kluivert scores, bellamy in good form.

perhaps he will be getting better acquainted with the bench this season?

he has been linked with a return to blackburn.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Sunday, 29 August 2004 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

The word I heard is that Shearer signs for Celtic tomorrow. Apparently his reps were at the old firm game today. This is pub talk though, and may not be nearly true.

scotstvo (scotstvo), Sunday, 29 August 2004 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Christ, I hope not. This rumour has been circulating for a while, and I'm not sure we need him.

ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 29 August 2004 21:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I disagree, I don't see why on Earth Shearer would be bad for Celtic (the fact we don't need him cos he's a w4nker besides...). Chances are Bobo's gone, and we'll need Sutton at centre half if that's true.

scotstvo (scotstvo), Sunday, 29 August 2004 21:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Bobo's going nowhere, and even if he did, we have Juninho, Hartson, Camara, Beattie and Wallace capable of providing cover for Sutton if he goes to defence. Not that he would need to as we have McManus, Valgaeren, Sylla, Laursen **sound of barrel being scraped** as well as the "proper" defence. We so don't need Shearer. He's old, he's past it, and he's just ever so slightly over-rated. The only advantage of Shearer is that he has a past successful partnership with Sutton, but if the only reason we need him is to turn Sutton into a centre half, then that's hardly relevant.

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 30 August 2004 15:59 (twenty-one years ago)

btw, Happy Birthday to Alan's brother*, Calumn. Hope he's having a nice day.


(* possibly not accurate.)

Mooro (Mooro), Monday, 30 August 2004 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I hope he's having a better day than he was on Saturday (Calumn, not Alan).

All talk of Shearer going to Celtic is also redundant as he will be the new Newcastle manager by the end of the week.

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 30 August 2004 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)

camara was awfulllll.

cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

he had better get better.

cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

"larsson was awful, once."

cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I was at Larsson's first game. The talk on the bus back was about him being a dud.

scotstvo (scotstvo), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

He was a dud, that's why. Crappy passback allowing Chic Charnley to score.

Camara should be shot for that one he took off Juninho's toes.

I'd still prefer him to Shearer though *diverts thread back on topic*

ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
he's still got it...

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 22 October 2004 08:10 (twenty-one years ago)

your Dido CD?

actually it's really hard to imagine Shearer listening to/liking music

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Friday, 22 October 2004 08:13 (twenty-one years ago)

whats on shearer's walkman?

suggestions...

weller
stereophonics
springsteen
rolling stones

real MAN'S music!

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 22 October 2004 08:21 (twenty-one years ago)

oh yeah i reckon he loves Teh Boss actually. and The Zutons. ergh.

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Friday, 22 October 2004 08:24 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
I will repeat from another thread that last night vs Grimsby I - unlike others, I dare say - was impressed by Shearer's belligerent refusal to shake hands and subsequent bloodied interview.

- You've played against some great centre-halves in your time, some real bruisers... what was the difference this time?

- Well, he wasn't great, for starters...

the pinefox, Thursday, 27 October 2005 11:50 (twenty years ago)

I like the Boss also.

the pinefox, Thursday, 27 October 2005 11:51 (twenty years ago)

I'm more of a Grimsby fan myself.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 27 October 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)

"It would have been easy for me to go out there and do him because that is what I wanted to do but I had to be sensible," said the 35-year-old.

haha

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 27 October 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)

If I had to guess, I would say that Alan Shearer is at least fifteen years older than me, yet he is younger.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 27 October 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)

Justin Whittle was a cornerstone of one of the best Championship Manager runs I ever had - Hull City in CM4. Took us from League Two to the Championship in two straight seasons, never anything less than immense at the back.

By contrast, I signed Shearer when I was managing Wrexham in FM05, and he was shit.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

Isn't it lucky that Shearer doesn't have a history of dirty play when going up for headers, huh, or else he'd look like a massive fucking hypocrite.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)

Isn't it lucky that Shearer doesn't have a history of dirty play when going up for headers, huh, or else he'd look like a massive fucking hypocrite

Spot on. I can't be bothered to trawl through this whole thread to see if someone's already mentioned it, but this reminds me of that time a few years ago when he blatantly kicked someone right in the face. Full on, in the face, as hard as he could, deliberately, and shown repeatedly on TV. Yet he didn't even get a one-match ban, as a big tournament was coming up (was it France 98? or Belgium 00?) where he was expected to be England's hero, so the FA just went into denial about the whole thing and the official line was that he was 'just trying to free his foot'.

Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

yeah but alan shearer he's too much dearer.

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

ihttp://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/85000/images/_86318_alan_shearer_and_neil_lennon_after_kicking_incident300

It was 1998, against Neil Lennon (Leicester).

Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

I'll try again:

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:SGrVQ97lRokJ:http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/85000/images/_86318_alan_shearer_and_neil_lennon_after_kicking_incident300(30-04-98)allsport.jpg

Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

He should come and play in Scotland, abusing Neil Lennon is virtually a national pastime up here.

ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

I think you are all too hard on Shearer. I don't know why. I still love him.

the pinefox, Friday, 28 October 2005 11:44 (twenty years ago)

This whole thing smacks of overpaid Premiership prima donna expecting lower league clogger to all of a sudden prance around in a tutu because he's playing a "proper footballer" and not showing said prima donna enough respect etc. Reading this thread i notice that I spent most of it defending Shearer - so to even the balance I will add that he's always been a nasty vindictive sort of player, not above the odd stray elbow (or, as pointed out above) or boot to the physog

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 28 October 2005 11:56 (twenty years ago)

The Alan Shearer leading with his elbow in this image causing Campbell's goal to be disallowed is no relation to the Mary Poppins figure referred to in this thread.

http://152.111.1.48/photo/pages/soccer/worldcup98/images/980630_f16_enar/Campbell%20goal%20disallowed.JPG

Dave B (daveb), Friday, 28 October 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)

I don't think Shearer is a prima donna. I still like him. It is strange, the animosity. He is a nice fellow, I think, a good man. I hope I am not wrong.

the pinefox, Friday, 28 October 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)

Yes, I know, he probably isn't a prima donna (he doesn't play for Arsenal for a start)

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 28 October 2005 12:18 (twenty years ago)

Yes, I think he's always preferred 2nd tier clubs where he can throw his weight around. Hence not signing for Man U.

He's a tart - Dada totally OTM upthread. He should be able to take the same sort of stuff that he's been dishing out for years. Whining about it just sounds pathetic.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 28 October 2005 12:41 (twenty years ago)

He got an elbow in the face that meant he had to have stitches - he is entitled to complain, in much the same way that his victims over the years have been entitled to complain. We have a go at Shearer for his thuggish behaviour on past occasions (and rightly now for his hypocrisy, since we have seen him smugly talking about it being a man's game in the past), so I don't see why we should forgive it in this other guy. And Dada, there's a big gulf between injuring someone so they need stitches and prancing around in a tutu.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 28 October 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)

five months pass...
byediddlybye

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 12:11 (twenty years ago)

the pinefox was not wrong

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 12:13 (twenty years ago)

i am sad to see him go, though i do think he should have left at the end of last season - he has been lumbering a lot this year, and it has been frustrating to watch him. it was good that he goes out with 3 goals in two games, though.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 12:16 (twenty years ago)

Ideally, his career ending injury would have come in a loss to Ipswich at home, but still.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 12:16 (twenty years ago)

And can someone argue for Newcastle being anything other than totally fucked next season in his absence?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 12:16 (twenty years ago)

his knee is now d. would have been nice to finish the season. at least he scored in his final game.

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 12:16 (twenty years ago)

Brilliant footballer, one of England's best ever

TS: Mick Ralphs vs. Ariel Bender (Dada), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 12:17 (twenty years ago)

And can someone argue for Newcastle being anything other than totally fucked next season in his absence?

maybe Owen will be good again!

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 12:18 (twenty years ago)

Definitely. Such a waste tho, relatively early international retirement and never really made it at club level, nor did we ever see much of him in the CL.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 12:19 (twenty years ago)

lolwen

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 12:20 (twenty years ago)

I wonder if he's scored more penalties than any other Premiership player?

Terrific striker of the ball.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 12:21 (twenty years ago)

What the hell was I doing up at 8:15 in the morning.

Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 12:22 (twenty years ago)

Sorry I should correct, of course he made it at club level, all the goals, but never played in a really successful team.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 12:23 (twenty years ago)

Blackburn?

Teh HoBBler (the pirate king), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 12:44 (twenty years ago)

Yes but one league title for one of the best players in Britain fairly consistently for how many years, 12 or so?

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 12:50 (twenty years ago)

That's 'cos he's never played alongside a forward as good as Chris Sutton since ;-)

TS: Mick Ralphs vs. Ariel Bender (Dada), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 12:52 (twenty years ago)

Or Mike Newell!

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 12:53 (twenty years ago)

ihttp://www.thefa.com/NR/rdonlyres/1333122F-8293-4621-A39E-

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 12:54 (twenty years ago)

oh well, didn't work

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 12:54 (twenty years ago)

xpost: You could say something similar about Bryan Robson, I don't think greatness necessarily equates to league medals. Do you think Shearer made the wrong decision going to Newcastle instead of Manchester United? At the time (summer of 1996) Newcastle had narrowly missed out on winning the league - I'm sure he didn't expect them to win nothing in the following decade. Plus Jack Walker was adamant he would not sell to his supposed arch-rivals (forgetting that they were actually Burnley, not United). No other clubs had the money or the inclination, and Shearer was a boyhood Newcastle fan. So he probably had no choice.

Teh HoBBler (the pirate king), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 13:00 (twenty years ago)

A footballer who wants to play for the club he supports, what a crime!

TS: Mick Ralphs vs. Ariel Bender (Dada), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 13:01 (twenty years ago)

i always wonder why recovered-from-serious-injury players seem to lose the power of evil freekicks

i was just about to say this, again!

i'll always prefer sir les, mind

this too!

rtcotm (mwah), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 13:07 (twenty years ago)

A footballer who wants to play for the club he supports, what a crime!

I'm sure that's what swung it for him, but I don't think he would have made that decision if he'd known that Keegan would leave six months later and Newcastle would never challenge for the league again.

Teh HoBBler (the pirate king), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 13:07 (twenty years ago)

the 'what if shearer had gone to barcelona before newcastle came in' parallel universe is still always an enticing 'un

rtcotm (mwah), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 13:09 (twenty years ago)

manchester united didn't want shearer anyway, because he was too fucking dearer.

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 13:22 (twenty years ago)

I think it is perhaps a myth that he turned Manchester United down. I have always followed footy news closely - as have you. And I don't remember anything in that period about United tabling a bid. It is a pity that this story has become so standard-issue, leading to United fans baiting him, etc, with no evident basis.

I like Alan Shearer a great deal; I'll refrain from saying that I love him. I have always appreciated him, in just the same sort of way - as a scan of my comments on him on ilx would suggest. In English terms, he is one of the greats.

It is sad if he doesn't get to play again - but then, given his injury record, he's had a remarkably good run for the last two seasons. And this may be the perfect way to go: surely for many Newcastle fans, a 1-4 win at Sunderland is the best result in ages?

How about this question: what is your favourite Shearer goal? I think mine might be the 30-yard volley against Everton, about 2 years ago.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 18 April 2006 13:51 (twenty years ago)

fave club goal: hmm. did he score when Blackburn beat Utd at Ewood Park in '95?

fave international goal: the way he took the third goal against the Dutch in '96 - so perfectly poised and so emphatic an execution.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 14:03 (twenty years ago)

I think it is perhaps a myth that he turned Manchester United down. I have always followed footy news closely - as have you. And I don't remember anything in that period about United tabling a bid. It is a pity that this story has become so standard-issue, leading to United fans baiting him, etc, with no evident basis.

No, he definitely turned United down. Twice.

fave club goal: hmm. did he score when Blackburn beat Utd at Ewood Park in '95?

We beat them home and away the season they won the league (94/95), but they won 2-0 at Ewood Park the season before that. I remember it was on Sky, I think late on a Saturday afternoon, and it was during my Easter holidays from university. I was in a pub in a small town in Sussex and the only other people watching the game there were two Blackburn fans wearing Blackburn shirts with their Blackburrrrrrrrrrrrrn accents. They looked like the chuckle brothers and gave me abuse for the whole match. I don't know what on earth they were doing there. I think Blackburn went top, or at least level with United, after that result, even though United had been about 14 points clear at Xmas. Don't know if Shearer scored, but I expect so. When did Sutton sign for Blackburn?

Teh HoBBler (the pirate king), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 15:10 (twenty years ago)

but I don't think he would have made that decision if he'd known that Keegan would leave six months later

But Keegan's an appalling manager.

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 15:14 (twenty years ago)

Chris Sutton:

94-95 Blackburn Rovers 15 Goals, 40 Games
95-96 Blackburn Rovers 13 Games
96-97 Blackburn Rovers 11 Goals, 25 Games
97-98 Blackburn Rovers 18 Goals, 35 Games
98-99 Blackburn Rovers 3 Goals, 17 Games

TS: Mick Ralphs vs. Ariel Bender (Dada), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 15:15 (twenty years ago)

I remember it was on Sky, I think late on a Saturday afternoon

IIRC it was the first Premiership match to be shown live on Sky on a Saturday, and so close to the other games as well. It was all very exciting.

soccerbase sez Shearer got both:


English Premier
Blackburn 2 (0) - 0 (0) Man Utd
Shearer 46
Shearer 76

At Ewood Park on 02-04-1994

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 15:20 (twenty years ago)

No, he definitely turned United down. Twice.

This simply restates the claim. Where is the evidence? I dare say that you can produce it.

the bellefox, Tuesday, 18 April 2006 15:26 (twenty years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/tyne/content/articles/2006/01/17/shearer_magic2_feature.shtml

Perhaps the greatest team performance ever seen by Newcastle United in the Premiership. After being crushed 4-0 by Man United in the Charity Shield a couple of months earlier, Newcastle played the exact same line-up against the Premier League Champions, and got a completely different result.

And at the heart of it was Alan Shearer, a player who turned down Manchester United to join Newcastle. He set up one goal, whipping in a fantastic cross for the reliable head of Les Ferdinand, before scoring another, tapping in after Schmeichel could only parry a shot.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 15:29 (twenty years ago)

I remember Shearer turning down Man Utd quite clearly, because if you recall at the time Blackburn made a cheeky offer of a swap deal for Cantona.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 15:29 (twenty years ago)

I'm afraid I don't count that (the italicized bit above) as evidence - it's just someone else in a hurry referring to hearsay.

What would count as evidence? Perhaps a book by Shearer in which he talks about why he made the difficult decision not to join United.

the bellefox, Tuesday, 18 April 2006 15:31 (twenty years ago)

No, it's true, I turned them down twice. The first time for the love of money, and the second time for the love of my home town team. Now, I sit here, with my dodgy knee and reflect on David May having considerably more medals than me.

Alan Shearer, Tuesday, 18 April 2006 15:36 (twenty years ago)

"It Doesn't Match???"

Alan Actor (Ronan), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 16:15 (twenty years ago)

i love alan, he makes me happy in my pants.

Edward Jennings III, Tuesday, 25 April 2006 15:43 (twenty years ago)

English Premier
Blackburn 2 (0) - 0 (0) Man Utd
Shearer 46
Shearer 76

At Ewood Park on 02-04-1994

I watched that game in a pub in Plumstead with my Dad. The local opinion was divided on which of the two teams was the biggest bunch of rich northern cnuts.

I found the teams:
Blackburn: Flowers ,May ,Le Saux ,Batty ,Hendry ,Berg ,Ripley ,Sherwood ,Shearer ,Newell (Marker ,85 ) ,Wilcox ,Mimms
Subs not used: Wright,

Man Utd: Schmeichel ,Parker (McClair ,70 ) ,Irwin ,Bruce ,Sharpe ,Pallister ,Kanchelskis ,Ince ,Keane ,Hughes ,Giggs
Subs not used: Robson,Sealey,

Bookings: None

Attendance: 20866

Top of the table clash with no bookings and only 20866 people there!

Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 15:53 (twenty years ago)

No wonder Blackburn won, they fielded 12 players (including two goalies) according to that!

ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 15:59 (twenty years ago)

Soccerbase formatting issues I think.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 16:01 (twenty years ago)

Mimms should have been in the subs list.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 16:02 (twenty years ago)

Wot no Cantona?

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 16:17 (twenty years ago)

Who was "Marker"?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 16:18 (twenty years ago)

Wot no Cantona?

Cantona got sent off twice in about three days around that time, so he was probably banned. This was during the Great Wobble of the Spring of 1994. United had been leading the league by about 14 or 15 points at Christmas, and on course for an unprecedented (and still never-achieved) domestic treble, then it all started to fall apart - players getting sent off left, right and centre, the Rumblewoodsmilk Cup lost to Villa, Blackburn closing the gap to zero points, deep into injury time and losing against Oldham in the FA Cup semi-final with the chants of 'You're gonna win fuck all' ringing out...

Then Hughes got an improbable equalising volley, United powered clear of Blackburn again, completed the double with a 4-0 win over Chelsea and topped the charts with Status Quo.

Teh HoBBler (the pirate king), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 16:40 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...
Revive for his testimonial, eh?

Coverage on ITV4 right now - Newcastle are playing "money for nothing" over the tannoy during the warm-up. Hoho.

ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:40 (twenty years ago)

"all the Newcastle celebrities are here, and Jimmy Nail is the top of that list". Roffle.

Cool, Neil Lennon's playing. I hope he kicks Shearer in the face for revenge.

ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:47 (twenty years ago)

I really miss that 1995 Blackburn team! They were formative, somehow, for me.

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:20 (twenty years ago)

Wish i'd known this was on tv earlier.
In a sign of sportsmanship Celtic are bringing on Adam Virgo to allow Newcastle a better chance of equalising.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:36 (twenty years ago)

haha am i genius or what

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:42 (twenty years ago)

Yes, recognising Adam Virgo as shit makes you the greatest footballing expert in the world. Well done ;-p

Testimonial in totally-fixed-to-make-the-recipient-and-the-fans-happy shockah!

ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:53 (twenty years ago)

Sorry to sound churlish, but Shearer's speech about the uniqueness of the Newcastle fans was annoying. 52,000 cheering fans - where else would you get that?

Daniel Giraffe (Daniel Giraffe), Friday, 12 May 2006 10:19 (twenty years ago)

I had no intention of watching this but I was meeting my flatmate in the pub and caught the last 20 minutes or so. The end of this match was hilarious. It was such an obvious fix. Last minute equaliser followed by the most uneccessary hack in the penalty box. And who do they sub on to take the penalty? Priceless!

Stew (stew s), Friday, 12 May 2006 10:24 (twenty years ago)

Sir Les nobly threw himself to the ground in the area in the last seconds, as his main contribution to proceedings.

Daniel Giraffe (Daniel Giraffe), Friday, 12 May 2006 10:26 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

He just said that John Terry's goal and England captaincy 'couldn't happen to a better person'.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 20:00 (eighteen years ago)

Hahahaha, yes, exactly.

Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

Apparently England's trouble is that they have too many good players. OK...

The Boyler, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 22:19 (eighteen years ago)

and nice people, like JT

the pinefox, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 22:39 (eighteen years ago)

ten months pass...

Someone must have been spreading rumours about Alan Shearer.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 10:05 (seventeen years ago)


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