Freeview Boxes : Classic or Dud?

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Just got one, have had it for a week. Now the kids watch cbeebies all day despite what I say...

And this bid up TV / Drop Down TV where they sell towels/jewellry/golf clubs to callers on-line ....

And cause of all this, I missed Psychomania on BBC1!!!

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 22 March 2004 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

You may wish to see this thread, mark. It's not very good though.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 22 March 2004 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks.

No, but then it's just worth it for Radio 6, ocasionally.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 22 March 2004 16:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I meant that thread, not Freeview. I suppose that's not very good either, but hey, it's cheap.

Digital Radios is a better thread.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link

True, re: the thread. But, not great source material I guess.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Classic for Sky Sports News (immensely entertaining, if occasionally heartbreaking, on a Saturday afternoon), BBC4 (Richard Rorty/Emmylou Harris/John Cage/Paul Morley/Alan Clark/Gyorgy Ligeti/Mark Steel...), Radio 3 & 4 hiss-free, Five in near-DVD kwal for CSI, etc., the entire-series-in-a-day rerun approach of UK History (dip a toe into The Cuban Missile Crisis).

Dud for ropey BBC/ITV bitrates, the shopping channels (only funny the first time), the wasteland of ITV2 and the creeping menace of Top Up TV (I don't have an old OnDigital box so I can't see these extra subscription services - which are eating into channel-space, goddammit*), the plethora of EMAP-owned trash radio.

(* - OK, more to it than that, but, y'know...)

Jury's out: BBCi (I'm waiting for June...) and TMF/Hits channels (one could get sick of even "Hey Ya"), BBC3 (comedy on weeks before BBC2 - which I still can't help thinking of as a taster for its real analogue broadcast... the endless looping repeats on BBC3 don't encourage any kind of timeslot loyalty and by the time of BBC2 screening I can't remember what I have/haven't seen; the rest of its programming is without merit).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Don't forget Bunk Bed Boys, 11pm tonight. Comedy you'll never see on BBC2.

Pete (Pete), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:25 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...
OK, I've just tried retuning so I can pick up the unencrypted E4.

Not matter how many times I retune, I can get E4+1 perfectly but I've completely lost the reception for E4, Channel 4 and ITV etc.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 27 May 2005 16:10 (fifteen years ago) link

E4 only came on for me at about 10pm (which wasn't really a problem I suppose, since BB was on C4 at the time).

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Saturday, 28 May 2005 07:12 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah i've now got both E4 and E4+. yay!

Ste (Fuzzy), Saturday, 28 May 2005 13:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, I've got mine all sorted out now. You might be able to go straight to channel 705 for the Big Brother live stream.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Saturday, 28 May 2005 13:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Freeview boxes are okay, I haven't got mine connected though. Can't work out the connections with my TV and DVD recorder.

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 28 May 2005 13:26 (fifteen years ago) link

two years pass...

ftn seems to have been replaced with virgin1 which is showing Deep Space 9 5 times a week (opposite Daily Show unfortunately).

Tivo is currently listing 50+ episodes of takeshi's castle, all of which i've seen before. i deleted the Season Pass thing only to have them all reappear due to Takeshi Kitano wishlist thing. will have to delete them all individually...

bbc radio channels seemed to rejig last week sometime - needed a channel rescan to pick them all up again. annoying - missed start of dirk gently.

koogs, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 12:57 (thirteen years ago) link

I heard a couple of Radio 4 trailers saying that you'd need to rescan around October 2nd, the other week.

Forest Pines Mk2, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 13:27 (thirteen years ago) link

(note to self: remember to listen to Dirk Gently whilst in the car tonight)

Forest Pines Mk2, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 13:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Our box spazzes out and demands a rescan once every week or two. It happened again yesterday and afterwards we were missing bbc 1 and 2.

ledge, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 13:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I seem to be rescanning every other week, what with C4+1 and Virgin 1 and the BBC radio stations moving about. It's quite a to-do and I worry about how the old folk cope.

Also, ITV2 never seems to provide any programme guide information anymore. Luckily, I couldn't care less.

Alba, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 13:53 (thirteen years ago) link

One of our Freeview boxes started demanding a rescan every time it started up, for a couple of months, before dying completely.

Forest Pines Mk2, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link

What I don't understand is why you can't search for a show title on these things. The schedules are just stored as text in some database sitting right there inside the box - why not let me search for "Kath and Kim", show me the results, and then let me select "Record All"?

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 14:06 (thirteen years ago) link

We recently got a new freeview box which can has about 100+ channels on it, can record programmes, and can pause TV shows (even live ones) for up to 30 minutes. It's amazing! and it only cost £50.

C J, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 14:09 (thirteen years ago) link

The schedules are just stored as text in some database sitting right there inside the box - why not let me search for "Kath and Kim", show me the results, and then let me select "Record All"

er ... you can pretty much do that with ours (some kind of two-year-old humax thing that actually rocks a lot harder than i think i realise, given that it does all the stuff CJ's new thing does and i just take it for granted). you can certainly search for programmes by name, and it's piss easy to set up a repeat-recording schedule.

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 14:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes well that... makes sense

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 14:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Everyone should have a Humax.

Alba, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 14:43 (thirteen years ago) link

i want the one that can output to my computer.

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 14:44 (thirteen years ago) link

I need to read the instruction book with my Sky+ box to see if it can do fancy searching stuff. It can record whole series and that, but if I don't actually see it in the TV guide, it doesn't go "yo, you're going to miss that thing you might have wanted to see". Or maybe it does and i just don't know how to work it.

Anyway, that's not freeview. Our freeview box doesn't work due to crappy aerial set-up in the house. Luckily a guy about five doors down from us has a van with "TV Aerial Repair" written on it, I just have to befriend him for some spurious reason.

ailsa, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 14:48 (thirteen years ago) link

I am scared to make mine rescan, since I currently appear to be getting Setanta Sports without paying Top Up.

aldo, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 14:58 (thirteen years ago) link

It seems like you've got a non-spurious one already!

xpost

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 14:58 (thirteen years ago) link

"hello, I've just moved in a couple of doors along from you, care to fix my aerial for nothing in a neighbourly kind of way?"

ailsa, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 15:00 (thirteen years ago) link

"hello, I've just moved in a couple of doors along from you. nice van. be a shame if something happened to it, eh? now, about my aerial."

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Here's a "controversial" article about Freeview .. I can't say I really buy the guy's argument. I may not even grasp it in the first place.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/10/10/telebusillis_digital_tv_analysis

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Our Freeview box recently broke (it won't turn on - yes, I've tried replacing the remote control batteries) and would like to know where CJ got a box that records for only £50.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 11 October 2007 11:15 (thirteen years ago) link

yes, me too. i have seen cheap freeview boxes, less cheap recording boxes but freeview boxes that also record have, in my experience*, all been around the £200 mark. need a second digibox for the bedroom and may as well get one that records.

(* argos)

koogs, Thursday, 11 October 2007 11:21 (thirteen years ago) link

ok, they are coming down in price - a sony here for £80

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-SVR-S500-Digital-Recorder-Freeview/dp/B000FCQMFK

koogs, Thursday, 11 October 2007 11:27 (thirteen years ago) link

It's no Humax.

Alba, Thursday, 11 October 2007 11:29 (thirteen years ago) link

(that sony's a refurb, oops)

and humax ain't no tivo. 8)

koogs, Thursday, 11 October 2007 11:32 (thirteen years ago) link

We bought a fairly bog-standard freeview box (to replace an unreliable one which kept freezing up) from Argos about six months ago. We pay monthly for that top-up TV thing, so presumably our details exist on some top-up-tv-database somewhere .... because a couple of weeks ago we had a phone call from whoever the manufacturer of our freeview box was, offering us an upgrade to this spiffing new recordable one for just £50. My husband, being a sucker for gadgetry, said yes immediately and it arrived by parcel courier the next day. I can't remember what make it is, but I can check when I get home tonight if anyone's interested.

C J, Thursday, 11 October 2007 11:33 (thirteen years ago) link

oh, the topup tv thing, that makes sense. they've switched to uploading content to recordable devices during the times when other channels don't broadcast and the content is then available for topuptv people the day after, like tv on demand. as far as i understand it anyway.

http://www.radioandtelly.co.uk/topuptv.html

koogs, Thursday, 11 October 2007 11:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Top-up TV is rub-a-dub, as far as I can make out.

Alba, Thursday, 11 October 2007 11:50 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

bought a new set-top box to watch at christmas whilst parents monopolised downstairs tv. only the bedroom tv didn't have a scart-in.

tried it on parents' bedroom tv which does have scart-in. no dice - loop aerial, even one that's amplified, doesn't get a good enough signal for digital tv. i fear this will be the same for millions of sets come 2012.

anyway, got it home and tried to use it to replace the old itv digital box that keeps freezing up (sticks on bbc channels, which meant i lost about 5 hours of recordings over christmas, 5 hours of bbc7 rather than virgin1) but the tivo cannot replicate the remote control commands that it needs in order to turn over to the correct channel.

it will, i think, let me watch one channel whilst tivo is recording another, so not entirely useless. i will need to rejig wiring though as i know have more scart inputs than i have scart-in sockets.

koogs, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 13:12 (thirteen years ago) link

argos are doing a wharfedale 160G pvr thing for £75 in their sale btw

http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Search?catalogId=1500000701&searchTerms=WDTR160

have no idea what it's like other than the shape and the price. 8)

koogs, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 13:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I think I need to get myself one of those, but the thought of disconnecting everything and trying to work that into my existing set-up gives me nightmares.

nate woolls, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 13:43 (thirteen years ago) link

i believe it should come first in the chain, then output to your DVD/VCR/whatever, which then outputs to your TV - i think?

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link

My OnDigital box finally died last week, so I replaced it with the only cheap crap that Tesco had. It's bollocks. Audio keeps going out of sync, and you can only pull up now/next info for the channel you're watching!

Staggeringly, neither can the Humax PVR that is tied for "best" in all the reviews. But the Topfield TF5800PV can, as it just as good, and also has firefox-esque extensions you can download to it. So that's the one for me.

stet, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 18:01 (thirteen years ago) link

I can press "guide" on the Humax and it tells me all the channels (providing it has been on for a few minutes).

We now have a cheap crap Tesco telly that is digtal-enabled, but it is total shit, can't get a decent picture for most of the channels, whereas the Humax can get a good picture through the same (not very good) aerial setup.

Mind you, all I do is record crap and never watch it.

PS: What did you end up doing, Deano? Giving up and Watching To The Manor Born?

PJ Miller, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link

(Portal / Half Life 2 / babylon 5 avis on laptop)

koogs, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link

um, Teletext Extra. meant to be a 14 day episode guide but what you end up with is (virgin broadband) adverts top and bottom and room for 5 channels worth of listings in the middle = so much paging up and down.

new set top box is sharing a scart lead and a plug socket with the dvd. bit of a faff but should be ok as i should never be using both at the same time. but unplugging set top box means having to sit through 5 minutes of setup every time i turn it on. oh um. it's 'interactive' red button indicator is also eye-searingly bright compared to the last one.

koogs, Thursday, 3 January 2008 09:49 (thirteen years ago) link

So, until last weekend I had all the 'normal' channels (bbc1,bbc2,itv1,c4,5) working tickety boo through the freeview box, suddenly itv1,4 and 5 give me "no signal' or "service unavailable" and when I re-tune they've gone altogether. What gives?

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Reload your channels when it's quiet and the reception is good (i.e. not during a thunderstorm)

Mark G, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Somebody told me that I should "empty" the box first by unplugging it from the aerial so you that when you retune you get nothing and then turning it off for 15 seconds and then plugging it all back in to re-tune again. Do you think he was having a laugh?

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean - how would that help?

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link

I dunno, but there is a 'replace all' option that's best. I tried "add new ones only" once but it ended up a complete mess (BBC4 was actually ITV3 and loads of other type mixups)

Mark G, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Looking at to-days listings I can see that would be disastrous - sitting down to enjoy Masterpieces of Vienna and being confronted with The Two Ronnies. For shame.

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link

You'd only know which one you were watching when the fat lady started to sing! (maybe)

Mark G, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Miss Elaine Paige is not fat.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

She's not as thin as she was.

Alba, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Rear of the Year 1984.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 17:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Weren't we all.

Alba, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 17:47 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm getting really pissed off with freeview. The reception has been terrible recently and half the channels have gone including C4. Someone down my road reckons it's because they've changed transmitters or something - could that be true? If so does that mean I need a new arial or can I just get on the roof and point it in another direction. I emailed the freeview website and (quelle fckng surprise) no answr. If this is still the case when they switch of analogue I am not going to be happy.

Ned Trifle II, Monday, 21 January 2008 11:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Some of the channels are reasonable. Some go into pixel meltdown every 15 seconds or so.

What to do about it? I used to have a standalone Freeview box, now it's internal to the TV, which is a drag for reasons probably mentioned above. (quick check, nope: Basically, I can't record off the freeview channels unless TV is switched on and showing *that* channel)

Mark G, Monday, 21 January 2008 12:11 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Well, those channels have had a big shift-around.

The one that had grrls in not much, 'vibrating' while shaking mobile phones has gone.

And "Russia Today" has begun, a news programme that's on 2 hours each day, around 07:00

There's one called QUEST that's starting in May.

Still, I'd scrap the whole thing if it wasn't for BBC4.

Official.

Mark G, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 13:16 (twelve years ago) link

http://zattoo.com/

Jarlrmai, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 13:47 (twelve years ago) link

^ Shit, that's quite neat. Never bothered to check it out before. It's also a way of catching the Gaelic sitcom my mate wrote for BBC Alba (no, really) ... assuming they show it again. (If BBC Alba is anything like BBC3, I imagine it's on a constant loop).

Obviously, I won't understand a word of it, but hey.

a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 13:52 (twelve years ago) link

Mine are all working really well now. I watch BBC4, E4 and More4 and a surprising number of films on Film4. What the hell is on 5 these days?

commons hack spat (Ned Trifle II), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 15:30 (twelve years ago) link

30 Rock! or maybe it stopped again

using Zattoo more and more lately

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

What the hell is on 5 these days?

FUCK ALL. One of the things I occasionally have to do at work is write little extended captions for the TV page -- ie pick something and knock together four lines about it for any given night on each of the terrestrial channels. The only thing that stops it being anything other than a one-minute job is the fact there is never a fucking THING worth writing about on Five. Once you've done CSI a few times, you're on to plums.

a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 15:39 (twelve years ago) link

Peppa Pig getting short shrift here

also The Shield (i still haven't seen it but i'm sure it's lovely)

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 15:42 (twelve years ago) link

Five shows a lot of Segal/Van Damme movies.

a turducken of Hindu deities (gnarly sceptre), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:01 (twelve years ago) link

Dudes, Neighbours is on Five!

(also Highland Emergency, which no-one except my mum watches)

ailsa, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:10 (twelve years ago) link

And also THE MENTALIST which is OK, if you like watching Cracker reimagined as glossy American drama.

ailsa, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:12 (twelve years ago) link

Zattoo doesn't appear to have any of the additional ITV or Channel 4 channels, which is a bit crap. You're probably better off forking out £20 or so for a USB TV stick or something.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

Dudes, Neighbours is on Five!

Thus my point is made. (I've always hated Neighbours. Even when I was a kid. Mind, I also hate fun.)

a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

Don't think the 2 are connected.

Straight from the Top of My Dom (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

Rejected Neighbour spin-offs:

Bouncer's Nightmare
Bertha Goes Bananas
The Mangles Christmas Carol

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

and not forgetting "Hello again, we bludgeon"

Mark G, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

> 30 Rock! or maybe it stopped again

last 2 of season 2 are on friday night.

five.tv seems to be of the same opinion as grimly, the listings link keeps giving me:

"The system cannot find the path specified."

anyway, gadget show (increasingly terrible), NCIS (increasingly terrible) and Numb3rs (increasingly terrible) are all on 5. as are L&O:* (although despite being 4 or 5 years behind on L&O:SVU they keep showing only repeats)

koogs, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

five.tv is one of the worst web sites ever made, and it hasn't changed in fucking years. Just try to find information about the baseball games they show. I dare you! They show two games a week. What teams will be playing? Who knows!

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

four months pass...

apparently HD is coming to freeview on or around nov. 1! hotcha

Tracer Hand, Friday, 21 August 2009 21:54 (eleven years ago) link

that's BBC HD, mind you - which i believe currently has about five shows on repeat and a test card

Tracer Hand, Friday, 21 August 2009 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3166/3098983708_59d3a0f7c9_b.jpg

the "x" on the tic-tac-toe board marks the exact center of the screen, fact fans

Tracer Hand, Friday, 21 August 2009 21:58 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

Remember to retune your boxes if you want more TJ Hooker and Ironside repeats.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 07:42 (eleven years ago) link

Channel 4 HD coming soon too, apparently. Course, existing freeview receivers (including lots of those built into HD tellies) won't actually be able to decode HD channels, we'll need new boxes for that. (although apparently the USB DVT jobbie I've got for my PC will be able to cope with it)

JimD, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 08:19 (eleven years ago) link

You need really good reception for the HD channels. If you have problems picking up the regular channels, you'll be out of luck.

Unless this is what the whole retuning thing is meant to solve, who knows?

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 08:32 (eleven years ago) link

Doesn't digital reception become less of an issue when analogue gets switched off? Because then they can turn the power up without worrying about disrupting the old system, or something.

JimD, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 08:36 (eleven years ago) link

Remember to retune your boxes if you want more TJ Hooker and Ironside repeats

What channel shows TJ Hooker repeats?

The Prince's choice: making a brush. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 09:07 (eleven years ago) link

still not got a humax

cozwn, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 09:10 (eleven years ago) link

xp the new Quest channel.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 09:16 (eleven years ago) link

I was hoping it was 24 hour repeats of old Richard Quest shows.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 09:16 (eleven years ago) link

Is that up and running? It's been on there for ages as "Coming Soon"

The Prince's choice: making a brush. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 09:18 (eleven years ago) link

Launches tomorrow with the retuning, though it was meant to launch in May.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 09:20 (eleven years ago) link

i was misinformed about BBC HD on freeview.. if you're in london you won't get it til 2011 or something. they figured there would be all kinds of problems rolling it out so they wanted to do london last, so they'd have gotten good at it, but apparently it's been dead easy so far so they could have done london first. oh well. i am told you won't need a new decoder..

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 09:42 (eleven years ago) link

18:00 Weird Connections Locust That Watched Star Wars, The Locusts are amazing at avoiding obstacles. Biologist Claire Rind shows a locust Star Wars and observes it neural responses to find out how.

butchered in the spooky twilight (stevie), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 10:18 (eleven years ago) link

Anybody re-tuned yet? Any difference? (I still can't get C5)

Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 14:40 (eleven years ago) link

Channel 5 is surely just an urban myth yes?

Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 14:42 (eleven years ago) link

I have retuned.

That was exciting!

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 14:53 (eleven years ago) link

I'm waiting for the phone call from my mum in about about a week asking me what colour buttons to press and in what order.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

i am told you won't need a new decoder.

Well you were told wrong if you are refering to the HD channels. They require decoding of a completely different transmission protocol and codec. Almost every Freeview box currently out there will need to be replaced to get these channels.

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 15:33 (eleven years ago) link

If anything it now seems worse.

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 18:10 (eleven years ago) link

i rescanned only to get five and a n other channel replaced with 'five has moved, please rescan' messages. swizz.

koogs, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

I'm waiting for the phone call from my mum in about about a week asking me what colour buttons to press and in what order.

I was at my parents' house on monday and ended up writing them a list of instructions on how to retune. And also telling them to buy a new bloody telly.

Bill A, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 21:20 (eleven years ago) link

Chewshabadoo that's sort of what i suspected :(

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 23:32 (eleven years ago) link

You can watch (fairly low-bitrate at the moment) HD on iPlayer already though.

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 1 October 2009 13:26 (eleven years ago) link

lost ITV4 (Champions, The Saint, Space 1999, etc.), gained Quest (TJ Hooker) - bleurhg...

a gift from your mind in the form of the perfect beat (snoball), Thursday, 1 October 2009 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

i updated bedroom tv which is attached to an indoor aerial and that picked up five no problems, big tv with the proper aerial still doesn't want to know.

koogs, Friday, 2 October 2009 09:41 (eleven years ago) link

Had Channel 5 anyway but have now lost ITV3 and 4. Not too happy with the usual shambles. An apology would have been nice but of course this is broken Britain and their attitiude is they simply do not care.

Ah, broken Britain.

Michael Jones, Friday, 2 October 2009 09:47 (eleven years ago) link

I did notice that some channels are 'hiding', e.g. ITV2+1 is still giving "We have moved", but on ch33, "ITV" it says, is actually ITV2+1

Mark G, Friday, 2 October 2009 09:48 (eleven years ago) link

Koogs, it depends if your proper aerial is pointing in the right direction, I'd guess.

James Mitchell, Friday, 2 October 2009 09:51 (eleven years ago) link

^^^this is exactly the problem I have. It's driving me mad. I can get C5 sometimes on the big TV using the analogue service but now the freeview tv doesn't even acknowledge the existence of it. I had to pay 79p to watch Flashforward via "replay" on my bt vision box. It's madness I tell you.

Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Friday, 2 October 2009 09:52 (eleven years ago) link

oops , that's an xp to koogs.

Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Friday, 2 October 2009 09:52 (eleven years ago) link

Sometimes you have to re-retune.

Mark G, Friday, 2 October 2009 09:53 (eleven years ago) link

I've done that. This whole thing makes me feel old.

Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Friday, 2 October 2009 09:58 (eleven years ago) link

You think? I still miss the Rediffusion channel!

Mark G, Friday, 2 October 2009 09:59 (eleven years ago) link

i have re-re-retuned even since the bedroom tv has worked.

i don't have much say in where the aerial is pointing what with this being a flat and the aerial being 2 floors above me. but the signal strength is 100% (5? miles from xtal pal). during retune of bedroom tv five popped up very early along with the bbc channels. on the main tv it just says 'unknown 123812' or something. probably a function of the digibox.

(never did like that digibox. have to press button to switch between tv and radio which means no radio recordings on the tivo anymore. it also puts up nasty 'looking for updates' at 3am every morning spoiling every foreign film that film 4 has ever shown)

koogs, Friday, 2 October 2009 10:03 (eleven years ago) link

(You can turn that off usually, check the 'config' menu)

Mark G, Friday, 2 October 2009 10:04 (eleven years ago) link

you'd think, but i've looked repeatedly and seen others with the same problem.

koogs, Friday, 2 October 2009 10:24 (eleven years ago) link

How old is the box, Koogs. Even the cheapo one you get in supermarkets nowadays are a shitload better in terms of reception etc than even mega-expensive boxes from three or four years ago.

James Mitchell, Friday, 2 October 2009 10:30 (eleven years ago) link

is about a year old, a phillips DTR220. ironically i plumped for it after two of the cheaper models wouldn't work with the tivo (it changes channels in order to record freeview channels by simulating a remote control's IR codes but the database of models it can emulate was fixed 6 years ago and doesn't understand the newer, more exotic makes)

i could just buy a humax and solve two problems at once...

koogs, Friday, 2 October 2009 10:36 (eleven years ago) link

My sister has one of those, it's pretty nifty and the EPG and interface look like an old 8 bit computer.

James Mitchell, Friday, 2 October 2009 10:39 (eleven years ago) link

Anyway, I use a Topfield PVR 5800. Why? It's a pretty solid bit of kit out of the box. But you can easily upgrade the harddive with a standard PC 3.5inch drive if you want, copy videos onto your PC, and best of all they encourage people to write their own 3rd party software for it. For example I use this EPG: http://www.toppy.org.uk/~mystuff/

The community is pretty large for this stuff: http://www.toppy.org.uk/

Chewshabadoo, Friday, 2 October 2009 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

i did a manual rescan, which lets you pick a single frequency to scan. and it picked up five right off. so i clicked on 'save new channels' and it didn't save it, because, i guess, it wasn't a *new* channel. i did the same again and noticed there were more options than just 'save new channels' like 'replace all channels' and that worked (but because i'd only searched one frequency i only got those channels, like 6 in total, five, gay rabbit, all the faves). a full scan and a 'replace all channels' and i'm sorted.

got bitten by the 3am update again last night though. 1:25 into Bergman's Dreams on film4, 5 minutes of zx81 quality graphics...

koogs, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 20:25 (eleven years ago) link

Humax DVR here now crashing if left on the BBC channels for too long. Which is a pisser if you go on holiday and forget you left it on BBC 1 and get home to find it has recorded stuff for two days and then frozen. Bah.

stet, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 20:45 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

So I can get ITV1, C4, C5, E1, etc in the evening but not in the daytime. What's that about then?

PC Thug (Ned Trifle II), Monday, 9 November 2009 19:39 (eleven years ago) link

six months pass...

WTF

you should see the size of satellite some dude is putting up on the tenement next to mine; thing's like fkn hubble

can you just put up any old satellite you want if you live in a tenement? thing is p.horrid

cozen, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 12:36 (ten years ago) link

Is it 7+ feet across? If it is, it may be an old-style C or C/Ku band dish.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 13:07 (ten years ago) link

it's the fucking ladbrokes round the corner! liberties

it's not quite 7feet no but it's about 4 feet across; it's pretty big

cozen, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 14:36 (ten years ago) link

three years pass...

So Freeview Channel 66, only recently added, is something called movies4men, which is generally shite but throws up the occasional gem (no doubt entirely inadvertently). In the past week or so we've had "Out of the Past", "Django" (the original), "A Bullet for the General" (hadn't seen this before) and, on Saturday morning at 9am, Bunuel's "The Adventures of Robinson Crusoe"!

A frenzied geologist (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 14:40 (six years ago) link

so?

conrad, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 15:15 (six years ago) link

i've seen movies4men on my brother's skybox before, i must admit i would probs watch these movies... when our freebox is reconnected I shall def check that out.

it definitely wasn't designed to be a pants pocket player (stevie), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 16:24 (six years ago) link

Well that contribution was worth waiting for, thanks, well done there fella (xp)

A frenzied geologist (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 08:25 (six years ago) link

oh i do apologise my man i intended only to indicate and investigate the v interesting relative implications of your introductory so

conrad, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 08:35 (six years ago) link

No no the apology is mine for being a curmudgeonly twat always assuming the worst in people... it's too early in the day for me tbh.

A frenzied geologist (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 09:19 (six years ago) link

dudes i'm moving into a place w no aerial but with a sky dish. should i go freesat??

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 09:58 (six years ago) link

fwiw I use one of those little indoor aerials and it works a treat even though my place has concrete walls. I think it cost about a tenner in sainsburys.

sktsh, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 10:28 (six years ago) link

ahhh. will try.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 10:41 (six years ago) link

indoor aerial FTW

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 16:02 (six years ago) link

:D

sktsh, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 20:23 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

i have a channel 8, sat there between BBC3 and BBC4. never saw it before last night. some local london channel. lots of pearly kings and queens and people complaining about pains in the gulliver.

koogs, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 16:39 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

need a new PVR. current one (a digistream) suddenly keeps insisting on recording two copies of the same program, at the same time, tying up both tuners. it also claims to be recording when it isn't, "Recording (empty)" it says. playback has gaps in it too.

humax hdr2000t? it says 2013 on some of the listings. things have moved on since 2013.

the newer humaxs (humii?) have smart tv like features, "freeview play", which i don't really need - the fvp series. reviews of these on amazon are mediocre, citing hmi issues.

i guess i'll have a wander to richer sounds, see what they have.

koogs, Saturday, 15 October 2016 10:40 (four years ago) link

so, i walked to chiswick richer sounds* and bought a "Mocha" Humax FVP 1000 or something. got it home plugged it in and it was like My First PVR, episode guide had space for 5 channels a page and 2 hours across, finding anything would take forever.

but i updated the software and it drastically improved, UI-wise. am generally happy with it. recordings list is a mess though (like windows Icons view, always sorted by most recent first) and no user-defined folders like the DigitalStream. programme info also harder to get to.

the interesting thing is that LOADS of people are having the exact same problems i was, the forum, which i only looked at today, has pages of them. apparently sony PVRs are rebadged DS boxes and they are also suffering. DigitalUK, the governing body, seems to have changed something that's caused all the recent woe - https://www.facebook.com/UKterrestrialTV/posts/1303918016299713 and oddly the incoming signal is breaking playback of old recordings.

so it wasn't the box, and i could've saved myself 180 quid.

* richer sounds is posh nowadays, catalogue is printed on proper paper, not that cheap shiny stuff. also has a lot less in it, as do the shops. a few big tvs, more high end stuff. and many fewer people than when i went there a few years ago.

koogs, Thursday, 20 October 2016 13:31 (four years ago) link

(i say it's posh but it's still at the arse-end of chiswick, past all the closed down shops, empty blockbusters etc)

koogs, Thursday, 20 October 2016 13:33 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

Channel 81, Talking Pictures, home of creaky old British movies that no-one was or is interested in, does play the occasional blinder - tonight, they have "The Passenger" followed by "Gumshoe".

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Saturday, 4 May 2019 16:29 (one year ago) link

Tuned over at random last night, it was Otis Redding doing "Satisfaction"

More like it.

Mark G, Saturday, 4 May 2019 16:36 (one year ago) link

brown t shirt again (seriously this t shirt and the prison grey one have just gone on and on - like 12 years now)

just another country (snoball), Saturday, 4 May 2019 18:07 (one year ago) link

whoops wrong thread

just another country (snoball), Saturday, 4 May 2019 18:07 (one year ago) link

They had 'Bedazzled' followed by 'The Red House', way more interesting than most of the stuff you get on Film 4.

Dan Worsley, Saturday, 4 May 2019 18:13 (one year ago) link

That was on Wednesday night.

Dan Worsley, Saturday, 4 May 2019 18:13 (one year ago) link

'Bunny Lake is Missing' is the highlight of the schedule next week, must see, bizarro pyschological noir from Otto Preminger. https://talkingpicturestv.co.uk/schedule/

Dan Worsley, Saturday, 4 May 2019 18:18 (one year ago) link

Soundtrack by the zombies as well. And great titles.

Talking pictures freezes for a second or so every few seconds on my PVR but doesn't on the TV or the other PVR. It's annoying.

London Live is another source of good old films if you can get it. They are obsessed with London gangster movies though.

koogs, Saturday, 4 May 2019 23:28 (one year ago) link

ten months pass...

> Bladerunner 2049

yeah, i've noticed the sony movies channel sometimes has a decent, recent film that hasn't been on broadcast tv before at the weekend (repeated later in the week. the above was one such (and an interesting watch, but far too long)

koogs, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 12:36 (one year ago) link

I think that film's tremendous! And underrated - a bit like WATCHMEN (2009) in that regard: films that fan types wanted to happen, and then people predictably slated, but that I think are terrific.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 13:44 (one year ago) link

GUMSHOE w/ Albert Finney and Billie Whitelaw on Talking Pictures TV tonight at 10pm

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 15:25 (one year ago) link

dir. Stephen Frears iirc. it's a good one

Two Gentlemen with the Rona (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 15:28 (one year ago) link

Tonight on Sony Classics: SATURDAY NIGHT & SUNDAY MORNING

Then on Talking Pictures (new channel to me but maybe I can get it): THIS SPORTING LIFE

the pinefox, Saturday, 28 March 2020 10:51 (one year ago) link

You can get it.

Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Saturday, 28 March 2020 11:36 (one year ago) link

Here's a list of Freeview channels from the Crystal Palace transmitter and which multiplex they're on. Basically, if you can get any channel on a "mux", you can get everything on that mux. My HD reception is crap at times (despite being so close to the CP transmitters); we don't have a rooftop aerial and delivery vans in the Sainsbury's car park seem to temporarily block out the mux the HD channels are on. I think there might be a Doug McClure film on Talking Pictures right now!

https://ukfree.tv/transmitters/tv/Crystal_Palace

Michael Jones, Saturday, 28 March 2020 12:02 (one year ago) link

Sony Classics is showing "Son of Paleface" right now, having shown "Duck Soup" earlier - two films where a character is pictured in bed with a horse. Can't complain tbh.

Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Saturday, 28 March 2020 16:53 (one year ago) link

Tremendous post from Mike - a level of local obscurity and quirky technical knowledge that feels like the glory days of 2003.

I shall take that memory to Sainsbury's (car park).

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 March 2020 11:05 (one year ago) link

Last night:

SATURDAY NIGHT & SUNDAY MORNING on Sunday classics - excellent. Wonder if it's actually the best of its genre.

THIS SPORTING LIFE: my first ever Talking Pictures experience. The adverts are always followed by a lengthy trailer of a forthcoming film. All these forthcoming films are oddly far off (like, two weeks away?) and, remarkably, all seem fairly obscure, bad or uninteresting. A baffling logic here.

As for THIS SPORTING LIFE: ultimately disappointing. I didn't remember it being quite like this: overlong, increasingly self-indulgent, the kind of film where a man smoulders then suddenly sweeps all the crockery off the table. The inchoate male rage becomes incredibly tiresome and unfocused. It also seems to go as far as domestic violence - he hits the woman he supposedly loves at least twice, not to mention forcing her to go to bed with him - which is never remarked on. I think that there were, partially observed, codes of conduct on such things even then - 'a bloke who raises his hand to a lass is a bad sort', etc - and it's disturbing to see this film disregard them.

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 March 2020 11:10 (one year ago) link

That depends on whether he's supposed to be a hero. I'm sure he's not. The title is the first clue to that. That said, I watched the first hour but it was not the right mood for me last night.

Let's kill the Queen and be legends (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 29 March 2020 11:43 (one year ago) link

All these forthcoming films are oddly far off (like, two weeks away?) and, remarkably, all seem fairly obscure, bad or uninteresting. A baffling logic here.

I always assume they just got a job of lot of (mostly bad) British movies that no-one else had any use for.

Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Sunday, 29 March 2020 11:50 (one year ago) link

The Fast Lady was on Talking Pictures last week but, sadly, at a time when I was working. Stanley Baxter, James Robertson Justice, Julie Christie. Directed by Ken Annakin (whose Battle of the Bulge was on Sony Pictures this afternoon). Must be 40 years since I've seen that! Probably terrible. Strangest thing I've encountered recently was a 15min performance from 1949 by a pretty awful sentimental vaudeville crooner, probably a good 20 years past his peak... someone Baker?

Michael Jones, Sunday, 29 March 2020 22:39 (one year ago) link

Kenny Baker?

Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Sunday, 29 March 2020 22:52 (one year ago) link

Found it! Ted Lewis.

It wasn’t this clip but this gives you a measure of the man.

https://youtu.be/eg7UKFGqAv4

Michael Jones, Monday, 30 March 2020 21:16 (one year ago) link

How is that hat staying on?

koogs, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 00:47 (one year ago) link

ok, not strictly freeview, but we are in old films mode.

BBC matinees this week are all Ealing comedies*

M 15:15 school for scoundrels
T 15:25 man in the white suit
W 15:25 titfield thunderbolt
T 15:25 whisky galore!
F 15:30 lavender hill mob

seen them all before, would watch them all again.

* sfs not considered an ealing comedy

koogs, Saturday, 4 April 2020 14:41 (one year ago) link

I missed Villain with Richard Burton on Talking Pictures TV last night (it'll be round again) - always remember Villain as being the film the BBC interrupted a late night screening of to 'go live' to the start of the first Gulf War - felt like the beginning of the end times, then, however melodramatic and distant that seems now.

Sure, 90% of the British stuff that Talking Pictures broadcasts is dull crap, but it is a fantastic resource for anyone interested in the history and content of our national cinema. The definitive account of The Huggett Family films is still to be written!

Ward Fowler, Saturday, 4 April 2020 17:51 (one year ago) link

"What are you looking??!?!!" Hard to watch "Villain" without thinking of The Sweeney tbh, but it's definitely worth watching!

Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Saturday, 4 April 2020 17:56 (one year ago) link

Also Burton kept reminding me of Bono, bizarrely enough - looks wise.

Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Saturday, 4 April 2020 17:58 (one year ago) link

... "What are you looking??!?!!" that should be, ffs.

Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Saturday, 4 April 2020 18:01 (one year ago) link

... "What are you looking AT??!?!!" AAAAAAAAAARGGHH!!!

Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Saturday, 4 April 2020 18:02 (one year ago) link

"Girl with Green Eyes" on Talking Pictures. Never seen this before. Rita Tushingham is fantastic in it.

Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Saturday, 4 April 2020 22:00 (one year ago) link

Fairly terrible British movie from 1972 on London Live right now, "All Coppers Are...", about a 'love triangle' between Ben Fogle's mum, a cheeky chappy Cockney crim and a boring posh policeman (played by Satyricon star, Martin Potter).

Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Sunday, 5 April 2020 10:48 (one year ago) link

... sorry, keep forgetting that London Live isn't available outside London (I think), not that you're missing much.

Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Sunday, 5 April 2020 10:51 (one year ago) link

LOL @ the filth getting a doing at a demo outside an Embassy in the most unconvincing London street Pinewood Studios had to offer - placards suggesting the demo is about torturers being harboured in the Embassy and, er, student grants.

Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Sunday, 5 April 2020 11:11 (one year ago) link

just discovered there's a 1974 remake of brief encounter w. richard burton and sophia loren (also on london live)

it's not very compelling

mark s, Sunday, 5 April 2020 14:46 (one year ago) link

When films like this occasionally turned up on the telly - before they had channels that show little else - I always used to make a jokey comment along the lines of "And people wonder why the British film industry collapsed?"

Did somebody just say eat? (Tom D.), Sunday, 5 April 2020 14:50 (one year ago) link

my gran (mum's mum, who ended her days in my parents' house) once walked into the room while i was watching some old B/W movie and just thought it was the funniest thing that a young person (as i then was more or less lol) was watching this format which had been ripped up and binned in her youth. i suspect the remake of BE was ordered up by ppl who thought the same way -- the idea of TV access to very old films is an 80s thing, more or less, occasional speeded-up clips of silent comedies notwithstanding

mark s, Sunday, 5 April 2020 15:15 (one year ago) link

mark s 2020 stop saying more or less challenge

mark s, Sunday, 5 April 2020 15:15 (one year ago) link

Post-Krays, I notice both "Villain" and "All Coppers Are" had gay gangsters. Also Robin Askwith and David Essex had blink and you'll miss them parts in the latter, David Essex had one line, something like, "'Ere, did you pull a bird last night?"

Did somebody just say eat? (Tom D.), Sunday, 5 April 2020 15:22 (one year ago) link

"Performance", too, tho obv that's a different thing to a point

Kier today, Dom tomorrow (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 April 2020 15:26 (one year ago) link

Connections connections. We had T.P. McKenna as a London crime boss (in "Villain") one night and as a priest trying to talk sense into Rita Tushingham (in "Girl With Green Eyes") the next.

Did somebody just say eat? (Tom D.), Sunday, 5 April 2020 15:27 (one year ago) link

Mark's memories of the 1970s are stronger than mine, but I would say that there was a very big cultural attachment to vintage film then -- the obvious indication being Michael Parkinson's big interviews with veteran movie stars. And a great many TV sets then were still black & white anyway!

Michael Rodd's SCREEN TEST (19701-1984) is also relevant. I hope Steady Mike's reading this now.

the pinefox, Monday, 6 April 2020 11:05 (one year ago) link

Koogs: BBC is on Freeview, as much as any of these other channels are.

the pinefox, Monday, 6 April 2020 11:06 (one year ago) link

[*1970-1984]

the pinefox, Monday, 6 April 2020 11:07 (one year ago) link

this thread bumping reminds me to post

Talking Pictures Tv 17:50 today
Hell Drivers (1957)
which features, in no particular order, a doctor who, a james bond, a man from uncle, the prisoner, a professional, a ladykiller, and syd james.

koogs, Monday, 6 April 2020 11:44 (one year ago) link

How about SCHOOL FOR SCOUNDRELS -- are any of us watching that?

the pinefox, Monday, 6 April 2020 11:57 (one year ago) link

I did. It was enjoyable.

Useful tip from Koogs on these BBC films.

the pinefox, Monday, 6 April 2020 18:29 (one year ago) link

(I think I'll watch the next two also.)

(But first: NOTTING HILL on Five Star tonight.)

the pinefox, Monday, 6 April 2020 18:29 (one year ago) link

I missed the beginning but caught most of it, SfS. Modern 4th wall stuff from Sim at the end.

koogs, Monday, 6 April 2020 21:47 (one year ago) link

Yes this was good.

I plan to watch THE MAN IN THE WHITE SUIT next.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 09:08 (one year ago) link

NOTTING HILL btw was worth seeing but not that convincing.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 09:08 (one year ago) link

Loving Star Trek at 10 o'clock every morning, courtesy of the Horror Channel.

Did somebody just say eat? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 10:16 (one year ago) link

are they showing the 16:9 version?

(i have the dvds of TOS sat in front of the tv, i think i've finished them but can't remember. there's no real end to it - the last episode is just another episode)

Voyager on later in the day too. and Lost in Space. and Time Tunnel (the original?).

koogs, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 11:16 (one year ago) link

No, it's not the 16:9 version. They're started showing them from the start, and the first season is pretty consistently good.

Did somebody just say eat? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 11:31 (one year ago) link

(listen out in TMITWS forthe same bubble sound effects they used for the car in SfS)

oh, joan greenwood.

koogs, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 14:28 (one year ago) link

Greenwood's voice a tremendous artefact. Or do I mean instrument?

the pinefox, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 19:19 (one year ago) link

The Green of the Voice

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 21:54 (one year ago) link

That's good, Ward.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 09:37 (one year ago) link

THE TITFIELD THUNDERBOLT arrives on platform BBC2 at 15:25 today and departs at 16:45.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 09:38 (one year ago) link

Terrible Doug McClure (biceps) / Caroline Munro (boobs) movie on this morning, on Talking Pictures, which I ended up watching because of the weird electronic score - which it turns out was composed by a guy from Manfred Mann.

Did somebody just say eat? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 09:44 (one year ago) link

in response to PF's earlier comment abt the attitude to old movies in the 70s -- my feeling is we had parky and rodd and also e.g. michael bentine's golden silents instead of actually being able to view old films. the bbc was taping over many of its own archives (= why it's a big deal when eps of dad's army are found in skips etc) and the culture at large was casually and thoughtlessly non-archival, the turn to the past as a large wing of ordinary popular culture came later, when video became a household item not an expensive specialist technology (and relatedly when the huge music re-issue projects arrived alongside CDs)

almost parky's entire sheen was as loveable curator of lost things we shd pay more attention to, old films and broadway and the las vegas swing era, which only works when we realise that it really was mostly lost (since he was a p terrible curator)

mark s, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 10:03 (one year ago) link

Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner on channel 50 today at 14:50 (didn't you just read that PF?)

clashes with Titfield though (and i saw it only a month ago)

koogs, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 10:44 (one year ago) link

I did, Koogs ! Had no idea the film was coming on today.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 12:28 (one year ago) link

Cripes, it's Sony Classics. I really think I should watch this.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 12:31 (one year ago) link

(I didn't - and then I missed the start of the Ealing film too: so it ends up as no films today.)

the pinefox, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 14:38 (one year ago) link

more greenwood today. Whisky Galore!

koogs, Thursday, 9 April 2020 13:49 (one year ago) link

(that accent's a bit off though)

koogs, Thursday, 9 April 2020 13:52 (one year ago) link

next week's BBC2 matinees, btw

M The Robe
T The Long Ships
W The Vikings
T Those Magnificent Men in their Flying Machines
F ??? (not in EPG yet)

disappointing.

koogs, Thursday, 9 April 2020 14:06 (one year ago) link

Disappointing, indeed.

the pinefox, Thursday, 9 April 2020 14:45 (one year ago) link

Shall we all watch THE LAVENDER HILL MOB tomorrow anyway?

the pinefox, Thursday, 9 April 2020 14:45 (one year ago) link

btw I missed TITFIELD because it started 40 minutes earlier than the last schedule I saw had announced!

Saturday we should watch LONG DISTANCE RUNNER. Not as if any footy's on.

the pinefox, Thursday, 9 April 2020 14:46 (one year ago) link

Magnificent Men - I have a soft spot for those sprawling, international ensemble, chase-type films from the late '60s. Great Race, Monte Carlo or Bust, It's A MMMMM World, etc. Would happily watch for the cast alone for at least 30min.

The Robe - would be curious to see this as it was "the last film I saw at the pictures with your mother; y'know, with Victor Mature" - my Dad, every time anyone mentioned going to the cinema, 1975-2007.

But...work. Not seeing any daytime tv atm.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 9 April 2020 15:54 (one year ago) link

I watched Magnificent Men a couple of months ago, it's definitely comfort food

a slobbering sombrero moment (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 April 2020 16:06 (one year ago) link

the ealing things are entertaining enough but also familiar enough to not be a distraction. but then my home office is the sofa, facing the tv.

TMMITFM was a Pointless question the other day. john the measurer was a pointless answer (in two of the three jackpot round categories, the other one being The Wrong Box, which i've never seen)

koogs, Thursday, 9 April 2020 16:15 (one year ago) link

chitty chitty bang bang is the only good bond movie

mark s, Thursday, 9 April 2020 16:22 (one year ago) link

Benny Hill was in both CCBB and TMMITFM (and the italian job)

koogs, Thursday, 9 April 2020 16:27 (one year ago) link

exactly

mark s, Thursday, 9 April 2020 16:28 (one year ago) link

Gert Froebe obv in CCBB, TMM and Goldfinger

a slobbering sombrero moment (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 April 2020 16:35 (one year ago) link

Benny Hill in a Bond film would've been a treat

a slobbering sombrero moment (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 April 2020 16:36 (one year ago) link

high-speed chase through the undersea lair

mark s, Thursday, 9 April 2020 16:40 (one year ago) link

i can almost hear the mash-up of the John Barry theme and Yakety-Sax in my head

a slobbering sombrero moment (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 April 2020 16:42 (one year ago) link

I wished I'd started watching this version "Dorian Gray" with Helmut Berger earlier. Dubbing is abysmal.

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 April 2020 22:31 (one year ago) link

I have a soft spot for those sprawling, international ensemble, chase-type films from the late '60s. Great Race, Monte Carlo or Bust, It's A MMMMM World, etc. Would happily watch for the cast alone for at least 30min.

Tremendous post. When I was, what - 7, 8? I can't think what age - it's a MMMM World seemed like the most exciting film in the history of film. Well, apart from THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK if that had been released by the time I'm thinking of.

the pinefox, Saturday, 11 April 2020 09:13 (one year ago) link

1:15 today, remember:

https://www.radiotimes.com/film/fj5j8h/the-loneliness-of-the-long-distance-runner/

the pinefox, Saturday, 11 April 2020 09:14 (one year ago) link

Some lovely shots, him running through the puddles.

Prefab housing as well is interesting as well.

The final fuck you is great though.

koogs, Saturday, 11 April 2020 14:04 (one year ago) link

one of Hull's most beloved <3

Pliny O'Toole (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 April 2020 14:05 (one year ago) link

bolan's girlfriend is ben fogle's mum.

koogs, Saturday, 11 April 2020 14:32 (one year ago) link

Thing from Another World last night
This Island Earth on right now.

(Chitty also on as i type)

koogs, Saturday, 11 April 2020 16:38 (one year ago) link

actually, it's classic sci fi weekend on horror.

tomorrow
The Giant Claw (no idea)
Incredible Shrinking Man
20 Million Miles to Earth (Harryhausen)
Journey to the Far Side of the Sun (Gerry Anderson)

koogs, Saturday, 11 April 2020 16:47 (one year ago) link

Ben Fogle's mum also on BBC2 this afternoon (Half A Sixpence; Marti Webb dubbed her songs... Bolam also a minor role).

Michael Jones, Saturday, 11 April 2020 17:33 (one year ago) link

incredible shrinking man is such a weird mixture of WHAT IT SAYS ON THE TIN and unexpected philosophical turn

mark s, Saturday, 11 April 2020 17:38 (one year ago) link

Ben Fogle's mum also in the All Coppers Are mentioned recently. It's Ben Fogle's Mum season, obv.

koogs, Saturday, 11 April 2020 18:12 (one year ago) link

For that authentic lockdown experience Peter Brook's Lord of the Flies is on 5Select (channel 54) at 11 o'clock this morning

où sont les threads d'antan? (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 12 April 2020 08:57 (one year ago) link

"The Swimmer" on Sony Movies (Channel 50) AT 7.05pm.

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Sunday, 12 April 2020 10:27 (one year ago) link

^^^this is grebt

mark s, Sunday, 12 April 2020 11:52 (one year ago) link

Yes one of my all time faves

Microbes oft teem (wins), Sunday, 12 April 2020 11:53 (one year ago) link

Yes, one for when you think you're having a bad day.

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Sunday, 12 April 2020 20:35 (one year ago) link

I think THE SWIMMER is repeated next weekend and I will watch then. Never seen it yet.

the pinefox, Monday, 13 April 2020 11:07 (one year ago) link

I'd strongly recommend it!

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Monday, 13 April 2020 11:12 (one year ago) link

likewise

mark s, Monday, 13 April 2020 11:13 (one year ago) link

INDIANA JONES - all 4 films on BBC over the weekend including RAIDERS Friday, TEMPLE Saturday and BOTH 3 & 4 today.

I watched TEMPLE on Saturday for first time in decades and it was ... even more disappointing than in 1984.

the pinefox, Monday, 13 April 2020 11:16 (one year ago) link

A TASTE OF HONEY is on Sony Classics AGAIN tonight for anyone who missed it.

BABY DRIVER is worth seeing once.

WOLF HALL is apparently ongoing on BBC4.

I think I will watch IJ AND THE CRYSTAL SKULL at 6:40 before UNIVERSITY CHALLENGE - a semi-final?

the pinefox, Monday, 13 April 2020 11:18 (one year ago) link

we watched raiders last night and it was far more old-fashioned than i’d remembered! i hadn’t actually seen it since 1982. big tin-tin energy.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 13 April 2020 11:20 (one year ago) link

the scenes where they find the real actual tomb poking out of the sand is lifted straight from cigars of the pharaoh

other overlaps: central hero never seems to be doing the job he's paid for, small puttering planes travelling immense distances, quite racist

mark s, Monday, 13 April 2020 12:22 (one year ago) link

yes my son said that. “dad this is pretty racist”

he also noticed no black people in mad max fury road which was a v good point

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 13 April 2020 12:38 (one year ago) link

vaguely watching "Carry On Girls" and it's a bit sexist tbh

où sont les threads d'antan? (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 April 2020 12:43 (one year ago) link

They'll be telling us "Mutiny on the Buses" is sexist next.

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Monday, 13 April 2020 12:59 (one year ago) link

... was on Freeview the other day fwiw.

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Monday, 13 April 2020 12:59 (one year ago) link

mutiny on the lost bus

mark s, Monday, 13 April 2020 13:31 (one year ago) link

Mutiny on the Buses is the feminist installment of the Buses Trilogy

Ward Fowler, Monday, 13 April 2020 13:32 (one year ago) link

The Robe's on BBC2. Richard Burton's hair is pretty funny.

où sont les threads d'antan? (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 April 2020 14:11 (one year ago) link

Hindle Wakes on TPtv right now, probably only notable for morrissey's pun in that moors murders song.

(it was quite a famous play and an interesting look at the Wakes Weeks thing that industrial towns used to do)

koogs, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 11:57 (one year ago) link

are they showing the 16:9 version?

(i have the dvds of TOS sat in front of the tv, i think i've finished them but can't remember. there's no real end to it - the last episode is just another episode)

Voyager on later in the day too. and Lost in Space. and Time Tunnel (the original?).

Re: Star Trek. Yes, they are the 16:9 version, I think? Anyway, they look great, in fact Star Trek must have blown a few minds when it was first shown, some of the photographic effects (not the polystyrene rocks) are still impressive. The first season of Star Trek is so good.

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Friday, 17 April 2020 09:12 (eleven months ago) link

(LOL McCoy wearing is so much make up in this current episode)

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Friday, 17 April 2020 09:13 (eleven months ago) link

"so for this episode we'll be needing a LIFE FORM OF PURE ENERGY"

mark s, Friday, 17 April 2020 09:15 (eleven months ago) link

"WOLF HALL is apparently ongoing on BBC4."

Yeah it was EP3 by the time I saw that :-(

xyzzzz__, Friday, 17 April 2020 09:20 (eleven months ago) link

Fuck, missed it too.

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Friday, 17 April 2020 09:23 (eleven months ago) link

WOLF HALL must be on iPlayer now - I think I'll watch it all again next week.

the pinefox, Friday, 17 April 2020 10:41 (eleven months ago) link

Next week: look out for THE WILD ONE and ON THE WATERFRONT on Sony Classics.

the pinefox, Friday, 17 April 2020 12:26 (eleven months ago) link

.@TalkingPicsTV gets a page-lead in tomorrow’s Mail on Sunday pic.twitter.com/HD4sjR9o2V

— Tony Paley (@tpaleyfilm) April 18, 2020

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 19 April 2020 15:28 (eleven months ago) link

sweet

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 19 April 2020 15:31 (eleven months ago) link

enjoyed peter vaughan in Smokescreen yesterday on talking pictures. bit of nonsense about possible insurance fraud/suicide/murder which was diverting enough. vaughan plays a miserly claims agent penny pinching whilst fiddling expenses who seems unsympathetic until the reveal of what he is using the saved money for.

also saw the tonally extremely odd That Brennan Girl. v strange melodrama.

oscar bravo, Sunday, 19 April 2020 16:38 (eleven months ago) link

he also noticed no black people in mad max fury road which was a v good point

discounting Zoe Kravitz for having a white grandparent on each side?

donald failson (sic), Sunday, 19 April 2020 16:46 (eleven months ago) link

to put that in context, our inspiration for watching fury road was the “california love” video. which probably skewed his expectations on blackness a little bit.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 19 April 2020 17:08 (eleven months ago) link

enjoyed peter vaughan in Smokescreen yesterday on talking pictures

Yes, that's a good film!

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Sunday, 19 April 2020 18:41 (eleven months ago) link

"so for this episode we'll be needing a LIFE FORM OF PURE ENERGY"

... who is a prancing ninny, as in this morning's episode.

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Monday, 20 April 2020 09:43 (eleven months ago) link

Saturday night: THE SWIMMER. Quite fascinating and ultimately troubling.

Sunday night: COLD MOUNTAIN. Marred by too many fake accents by non-Americans but probably underrated - in an older Western, the content of this one would be considered very interesting.

the pinefox, Monday, 20 April 2020 17:01 (eleven months ago) link

Tomorrow night:
https://www.radiotimes.com/film/k8vx9b/up-the-junction/

Not very keen on the cast, but worth seeing?

the pinefox, Friday, 24 April 2020 09:50 (eleven months ago) link

maureen lipman iirc. it's a good addition to the 60s kitchen sink thing.

Adrienne Posta too...

https://youtu.be/79nVTKeaRGs

koogs, Friday, 24 April 2020 11:16 (eleven months ago) link

She definitely seems strongly preferable to Maureen Lipman.

the pinefox, Friday, 24 April 2020 11:24 (eleven months ago) link

The Ladykillers followed by All That Heaven Allows, 12.50pm on Film4, a channel which generally never shows anything worth watching.

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 April 2020 07:09 (eleven months ago) link

Can't watch today but thanks for the heads-up Tom D -- these reminders are useful.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 28 April 2020 07:44 (eleven months ago) link

Only problem I've got is that Channel 4 and Film4 don't work when it rains or is particularly overcast - come back analogue all is forgiven.

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 April 2020 09:47 (eleven months ago) link

Sony Movies Classic is running through a bunch of good onld english films, mostly repeats and mentioned upthread, but icymi

09ish Loneliness of long distance runner
11ish Georgy Girl
15ish Admirable Crichton
17ish, er, Dad's Army
19ish Saturday Night & Sunday Morning
21ish Taste Of Honey
23ish The Knack and how to get it

some notable war films on film4 too
11 This Happy Breed
13 Millions Like Us
15 Two Thousand Women
17 Waterloo Road

and TPTV have been showing hammer films late on a friday, tonight's is Dracula, Prince Of Darkness

koogs, Friday, 8 May 2020 08:28 (eleven months ago) link

of those on film4 the first two are interesting - noel coward wrote the first, and both are very much about the families left behind during the war, and both filmed whilst the war was still happening.

Patricia Roc in Millions and Two Thousand Women as well.

koogs, Friday, 8 May 2020 08:34 (eleven months ago) link

RUNNER, SATURDAY NIGHT, TASTE OF HONEY were all screened on the same channel in the last month or two - I saw them then otherwise would watch.

the pinefox, Friday, 8 May 2020 11:44 (eleven months ago) link

i did say as much - "mostly repeats and mentioned upthread, but icymi"

koogs, Friday, 8 May 2020 17:00 (eleven months ago) link

TPTV 13:10 The Importance Of Being Earnest (1952)
BBC2 15:00 The Importance Of Being Earnest (2002)

koogs, Monday, 11 May 2020 15:16 (eleven months ago) link

Some films on today:

London Live
13.00 Brief Encounter
15.00 Victim

Film4
16.45 Beneath the Planet of the Apes

Talking Pictures
23.55 Shampoo

Frank Bough: I Took Drugs with Vice Girls (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 09:01 (eleven months ago) link

I remember to take this opportunity to report that I have been listening to music that I think features TOM D.

Specifically on vinyl the whole of Close Lobsters' 12-inch, 4-track 45: 'What Is There To Smile About?'

The lead track can be heard here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a50KwHUAXo

the pinefox, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 09:09 (eleven months ago) link

four months pass...

Sony Movies Classic has now been rebranded Sony Movies Christmas for all your festive TV movie needs, three months early.

But that prompted me to finally watch The Swimmer before it disappeared and that was great. Nice device, the way back story is gradually revealed, but never fully. And the ending... Odd film for such a big name.

Also taped Miss Jean Brodie and American Graffiti.

Legend of Hell House was on tptv at weekend. Dvd has been on my Amazon wish list for about a decade after learning about the Delia Derbyshire soundtrack.

koogs, Thursday, 24 September 2020 04:28 (six months ago) link

What do people who aren't in London get on freeview channel 8? (Ie instead of London Live)

koogs, Thursday, 24 September 2020 06:35 (six months ago) link

In Glasgow, 'That's TV Scotland', which mostly seems to show fuzzy music clips from the 70s and 80s. I hear from London friends that London Live shows some interesting films from time to time - definitely not the case with That's TV Scotland.

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 24 September 2020 07:24 (six months ago) link

Just recently discovered that I can now get Sky Arts on Freeview.

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 24 September 2020 07:26 (six months ago) link

(I was asking because Stuart maconie was saying that he wanted to see Deep End and it was on LL yesterday. There were 6 months when it would show a new Ealing B-movie every day. Then it went onto Norman wisdom movies... And in the evenings it's all London gangster movies)

koogs, Thursday, 24 September 2020 07:34 (six months ago) link

i've just watched the whole of american graffiti without recognising harrison ford...

koogs, Thursday, 24 September 2020 12:13 (six months ago) link

Ah, he was so young..

Mark G, Thursday, 24 September 2020 12:16 (six months ago) link

'73, so only 4 years before SW.

koogs, Thursday, 24 September 2020 13:26 (six months ago) link

three weeks pass...

i keep forgetting about Sky Arts (ch 11?) but over the last week we've had

KT Tunstall on Ivor Cutler (including her singing Beautiful Cosmos to Phyllis)

Trailblazers: Two Tone (Noddy Holder narrated documentary, very Specials-centric, some good contributors like, surprisingly, Pete Waterman, who was DJ at the Locarno when the Coventry Automatics played there)

The Art Of Architecture on Battersea Power Station

er, Portrait Artist Of The Year

Punk Night tomorrow by the look

koogs, Thursday, 15 October 2020 14:18 (six months ago) link

I thought 'Danny Dyer on Harold Pinter' on Sky Arts was some kind of pisstake, but apparently Dyer worked with Pinter and is a big fan, so fair dos.

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 15 October 2020 17:00 (six months ago) link

I watched a thing about John Belushi which was quite poor (and had an odd, stilted, machine-translated-back-and-forth voiceover), and "Rankin's 2020", which obviously fulfilled my long-held wish for EXIF data to pop up onscreen when showing pro-grade photographs, but was still unsatisfying. Still, it beats Border Patrol on ch11.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 15 October 2020 17:32 (six months ago) link

three months pass...

Horror Channel is showing the old Universal monster films on monday lunchtimes. I'm guessing Dracula was on first, i caught Frankenstein (1931), missed The Mummy (1932). Wolfman (1941) is on tomorrow, and Creature from the Black Lagoon is on the 8th.

koogs, Sunday, 31 January 2021 21:39 (two months ago) link

two weeks pass...

so, some years ago i turned the tv on after midnight and caught the middle of a film about an american soldier's night in britain - failed visit to prostitute, picked up in a pub and rolled by the woman's compatriots, falls (mutually) for (very shy) barmaid, gets chased by the military police. curious little film.

i caught it, again by accident, about two months later, but again not all of it.

last night i taped something on spec from Talking Pictures. "A sensitive story of two airmen. One with a terrible injury and one dealing with life" and it's the film i didn't know the name of. "During One Night" it's called, barmaid is Susan Hampshire.

(said terrible injury, the bit i'd missed before now, is losing his penis (probably more). whilst still a virgin (hence prompting the other one's visit to the prostitute). kills himself over it in the end)

koogs, Friday, 19 February 2021 16:45 (one month ago) link


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