You Want Superman Revamp? [Also the Man of Steel (2013) thread]

And THANK JOR-EL Supes ditched the mullet, just before he turned into White Lightning (in his pants).

She had roller skates on too. The comics version of Xanadu the musical - she does have the distinction of being one of the few heroes to have taken down Galactus. WIth her rubbish pop singing or something.

I loved those. The Dan Jurgens and Jerry Ordway stuff was fun. It was just as the romance thing was starting to heat up. I got in on the Eradicator storyline where El Supo transmogrified into the cold-ass "Son of Krypton" and he had a hot outfit.

surely this is the most blatant piece of comic book nerdity-sublimation evah

I loved how outraged people became when Doug caught a bullet. My main reaction was, "Well, what did you expect? Dude went into a combat situation where no one was looking out for him and logic prevailed. (Warlock used to cover his ass but he was off with Sunspot in the Fallen Angels miniseries.)

I read a fan-fic where they ramped Cypher's power up from being able to interpret languages to being able to assimilate information, kind of like the way people had skills uploaded into their brains in "The Matrix" (only predating that by about 5 years). It almost made him a viable member of the team. At any rate, he's a character who's solely suited towards research/diplomacy and I'm glad that Louise Simonson didn't shy away from offing him.

Tom, are you talking about / standing up for the post-Byrne & Crisis, pre-Jurgens & DOOMSDAY! shenanigans? I'd have to agree, actually (tho I missed the Byrne / Kesel art combo). I'll wait for Mr. Skidmore to hop in & voice his displeasure re: this era, given he's not a fannie of the modern-day powered down Supes (unless he's Supe-d up again).

Smart money puts Mr. Morrison on Green Lantern at this point, sadly.

Looks like all of the current creative teams on the Super-books will get replaced at this point.

Semi-related, The Ultimates may be a thing of the past, as Mark Millar/Bryan Hitch are now in the running for books at DC as well.

Now, Grant Morrison on Spiderman or something, that'd be a shame.

Damn that Rucka. He's making me buy books I swore I'd never read.

Abstractly, this is beautiful.

Grant on anything is terrific. Grant with a really good artist is obviously even better. Grant and Art Adams on one of the great characters, one of my favourites, one Grant has already proven he can do exceptionally well, would be almost brain-meltingly wonderful.

According to DC, the writers on the 3 Superman titles (Superman Adventures of..., Action Comics) will be (respectively) Brian Azzarello, Greg Rucka, and Chuck Austen. Here are excerpts of what Austen plans on doing to Superman (via the Millarworld boards, via an interview @ CBR.com - LINK). Not WITH - TO. Since this is as down as I can feel regarding a fictional character, I'm gonna go fictionally throw up and then have a fictional weep or 26.

**************

"Clark will no longer be the star reporter. Someone is hired in his place to bring in a 'younger demographic' and Clark is shunted off to one side doing shmoe work. And the guy who replaces him is a jerk who he hates, and Clark can't understand. This makes no sense. He's a great writer, blah, blah, blah. Just like you and I feel when someone doesn't give us our due. When someone else is given the promotion we deserved.

[...]

"What will make it unique, I guess, is that, hopefully, it will all be unexpected. Everything will be fresh and surprising, and human. I don't see Clark as an alien, at all. I see him as an average Joe farmboy with incredible powers. The alien thing was just an excuse to give him powers. If we can't relate to him on any level, if he's alien and rich, and successful, and happily married-oops, did I say that out loud-then there's nothing for readers to hang onto. I already told you Clark won't be the star reporter. That's somewhat new. And that's the smallest change I asked for. Wait until you see what I do with Bizarro. And Gog is back. Woof. I'm having fun."

[...]

And that story was originally written as a 'Superman and Lois have a miscarriage.'

[...]

"So to all that, let me just say ... Lana's single again. And she liked Clark as Clark first, and then also as Superman. Much healthier.

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UGH. If this is the plan, bring back the mullet & the lightning bolt. And Black-Like-Me Lois. And the Supercar. And clones.

The Spider-Man Clone Saga thing, it sucked the way it was written, but the idea itself was at least a good example of doing something new with a character that a) didn't depend on lukewarm "reinterpretation" and b) came directly out of what had gone before.

I take offense at the "the nerds won" thing, becuase the nerds would most definitely concoct some sort of continuity-weighted logistical pretzel (cf. Clone Saga) than some warmed-over soap-opera potboiler. Of course, maybe Austen is just a horny nerd - his storylines in various Marvel books involve contrived lovelines & triangles & other types of polygons w/ dialogue that would melt Joe Eszterhas at 50 feet (cf. the example I posted earlier in this thread). Also, he's been lambasted by various "internet trolls" for his questionable characterization of various female characters. It's also worth reading that CBR interview to read the paragraph where he refers to old-school Lois Lane as a "gold-digging bitch" (paraphrased, of course).

I'd like to think there's a happy DMZ between continuity acknowledgement and devil-may-care hooptie where good stories involving established comic characters can be created and enjoyed. For the love of monkeyfuck, there's no need to play "the other woman" card AGAIN!

He's not an alien, he's Jewish!

(Captain Atom's own series was quite good in places, IIRC, or maybe I'm thinking of someone else.)

BTW, Horace, if you liked _Quiver_ (the Kevin Smith Green Arrow story, right?), you might like the 6-issue Brad Melzter Green Arrow run that followed it (_The Archer's Quest_). I liked it MUCH better than Smith's GA work, actually (or the bits of _Quiver_ I read) - Mr. Smith's knack w/ dialogue (which might be overstated) doesn't translate too well onto the printed page.

Its been so successful they have signed on for another mini called "I Can't Believe Its Not The Justice League".

And on the movie front:

Warner Bros is trying to ready its DC Comics stalwart Superman to soar again on the Big Screen, and the studio has turned to Chris Nolan to mentor development of the movie. Our insiders say that the brains behind rebooted Batman has been asked to play a "godfather" role and ensure The Man Of Steel gets off the ground after a 3 1/2-year hiatus. Nolan's leadership of the project can set it in the right direction with the critics and the fans, not to mention at the box office. Besides, Nolan is considered something of a god at Warner Bros and has a strong relationship with the studio after the success of Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. Though he wasn’t obligated to do so, he gave the studio first crack at his spec script Inception, and Warner Bros was able to buy it before other studios even got a sniff. While Nolan completes that Leonardo DiCaprio-starrer for a July 16th release, he's also hatched an idea for Warner Bros' third Batman installment. Now his brother and frequent collaborator Jonah Nolan, and David Goyer who co-wrote Batman Begins and penned the story for The Dark Knight, are off scripting it.

Let us emphasize that Superman 3.0 is in the early stages of development. And we doubt Nolan would direct. This wouldn't be a sequel to Superman Returns but a completely fresh franchise. As one of our insiders reassures: “It would definitely not be a followup to Superman Returns." Nolan coming on board follows a hiatus period for Superman after that 2006 reboot as the studio tried to figure out whether or not to make a sequel to that version starring Brandon Routh directed by Bryan Singer. As recently as this summer, Warner Bros was still contemplating how to proceed. We were told that "Bryan or Brandon are not completely out of it yet. But Warner Bros doesn't have a handle yet on it, either. (Producer) Jon Peters is trying to make something happen since he stands to benefit financially. But they (the studio) need to hear a great story that makes sense." Another insider explained to us, "We know what we don't want to do. But we don't know what we want to do. We learned a lot from the last movie, and we want to get it right this time."

Etc. etc.

It's a little weird that they're rebooting all of these commics franchises so soon (Hulk, Spider-Man...and Fantastic Four, from what I understand), but I think I might be okay with it from the standpoint of shit just not working the first time.

bankruptcy of ideas, plus cynical appeal to the familiar.

Isn't it still Superman 2.0 at this point? Singer/Routh still held all the trappings if the Donner/Lester/Reeve films.

Hey you're the one with the doctorate, how can you not know!

(mail order)

Permanment Origins Issue

Kinda with they'd reboot with Bizarro instead of Superman.

considering that the guy who made x-men turned out a superfilm that was too murky and overwrought, it seems ironic they'd go to the guy who made Dark Knight to rectify the situation. admittedly they're probably not thinking much beyond "the money comes out of THAT GUY" but all the same...

if they're looking for alighter tone then you'd have though favreau would have been the superheromoviemaker to go to?

if they're looking for a lighter tone, i can't imagine they'd go with nolan.

Favreau not already at the WB table.

superbad team should have a shot at the title.

or alternatively, vince vaughan playing the bad/drunk superman for an entire movie.

Jason Reitman, since Up in the Air is the movie I think Superman Returns was trying to be.

psyched for new superman voice

lars von trier

Zack Snyder is the director for this job.

barf

guess I'll be skipping this one

barf x 2

SUPEROWL

"Faster than a speeding bullet!"

*extended slow motion sequence*

hunky tudor Henry Cavill to play supes

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/celebritynews/8291749/Another-British-superhero-Henry-Cavill-to-play-Superman.html

hes a horrible actor from what i can tell

Ta-da?

http://www.comingsoon.net/nextraimages/manofsteelsupermansmall.jpg

A clickthrough on the bigger version confirms the suit is, well, scalloped.

looks shite

I find it hard to believe this is the first Superman to radiate amber alert. But it's true.

I hope we find out how Superman became Superman.

He looks like Bizarro, so now I want to see the Bizarro movie instead.

There's still a little too much blue in the suit, it's not DARK and GRITTY enough. They really should have just set saturation at 0% rather than 25%.

why do they keep trying to make superman movies? nobody gives a shit about superman.

I am still at a loss as to why the suit would be scaly. Did Ma and Pa Kent kill and skin a pack of ornery lizards and make it for him?

they should have made it silky and shiny

like this!

http://www.milanoo.com/upen/v/200808/Shiny-Metallic-Blue-Superman-Costume-with-Red-Pants-and-Cape-3147-1.jpg

Should've gone with

http://www.brandchannel.com/images/FeaturesProfile/profile_img1_underoos.jpg

Don't think American Apparel can afford the product placement.

Said it before, but they really missed a trick by not casting Jon Hamm.

Everybody says that. He probably has more sense anyway

I remember Jon Hamm was on Conan making fun of the idea, saying he was too old and the movie would have to be about Superman having a midlife crisis. But it still sounds way more fun and interesting than what they've come up with here.

only thing that can save this is Superman, huddled in the wreckage of the Fortress of Solitude, in his darkest hour, singing The Smiths' "Asleep"

They should have cast Hamm and rewritten it as a comedy.

when will they release the clark kent scaly outfit photo

Ta-da!

http://nicolars.tumblr.com/post/24007861570/zebablah-edendae-henry-cavill-filming

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4lmtkvL981qabls9o1_250.png

oh jeez

jesus christ if there's one superhero's iconography that shouldn't be fucked with it's Superman

Hair by Romney.

Bunching on the abs looks like immediate post-lipo.

Everything about this is gruesome.

if there's one superhero's iconography that shouldn't be fucked with it's Superman

lol

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/agent-of-style-superman-110805.html

apart from the Morrison one (which was temporary and really random) almost all of those changes are really, really minor. and not as dramatic as the stupid thing upthread.

cavill's got some sick fuckin quads

We're all overlooking the elephant in the room. And by the room I mean his pants.

apart from the Morrison one (which was temporary and really random)

the jeans and t-shirt version in Action? it's not random, it's because he hasn't invented the costume yet (or had it grow on him in a lab, whatever was going on in #8 with a different artist every four pages)

This doesn't look like a Liefeld costume; there aren't any pouches anywhere.

apart from the Morrison one (which was temporary and really random) almost all of those changes are really, really minor. and not as dramatic as the stupid thing upthread.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman_Red/Superman_Blue

This doesn't look like a Liefeld costume; there aren't any pouches anywhere.

And he presumably has feet. But the muscles look very Liefield.

I think we can all agree that, of all the factors that might draw people to this movie or keep them away, Superman's suit is like #1,000 on a list of 999 things.

he kind of looks like a Matt Bomer in an expensive-but-cheap-looking Halloween costume

no Actual Human Being can look liefeldian, because liefeld cant draw human beings

at first i didnt like how textured and waxy this looked, but now im digging that hes basically Superman Of Finland

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman_Red/Superman_Blue

that's not by Morrison in any way though

no one said it was...?

Everything about that pic looks incredibly shopped to me. Emphasis on incredibly.

why is this even happening.

why wouldnt it be

well yeah.

quite a cast, but, snyder...

There's just a weird serial killer vibe I get off of Cavill, he might have been a better Zod.

Dan: whoops, I elided my quoting of Shaky with your quoting of Shaky while scrolling down

it is late

the jeans and t-shirt version in Action? it's not random, it's because he hasn't invented the costume yet

no the JLA one where Superman became white-and-blue-electro dude

er which I guess is related to the thing DJP posted, which I only know about because it was used in Morrison's JLA run - if it was someone else's idea that's news to me but whatever. argh comics continuity!

I think it's supposed to be the costume from the Justice League reboot - maybe it was mentioned in the back of one of the issues? - which would make it a Jim Lee design?

lol that you could read JLA and think that HADN'T been forced on the book by pointless continuity crossover antics!

that photo does have the look of Lee's pointless piping from nu-52

I haven't read Morrison's entire JLA run, came in in the middle, whadayawant from me

you got into it because of the tie-in with John Byrne's Genesis, didn't you

Hm.

n the pantheon of superheroes, Superman is the most recognized and revered character of all time. Clark Kent/Kal-El (Henry Cavill) is a young twenty-something journalist who feels alienated by powers beyond his imagination. Transported years ago to Earth from Krypton, a highly advanced, distant planet, Clark struggles with the ultimate question ‘Why am I here?’ Shaped by the values of his adoptive parents Martha (Diane Lane) and Jonathan Kent (Kevin Costner), Clark discovers having extraordinary abilities means making difficult decisions. When the world is in dire need of stability, an even greater threat emerges. Clark must become a Man of Steel, to protect the people he loves and shine as the world’s beacon of hope – Superman.

aka My Dinner With Superman

Zack Snyder is such a horrible fucking hack there is no way in hell this will be any good. Which is unfortunate, cuz I would love to take my daughter to a decent Superman movie.

Shakey beyond OT re Snyder and I have no interest in this film but

aka My Dinner With Superman

idgi, how is this different from - say - any given retelling of the origin from the last 15 years endless annual iterations, or - say also - either of Morrison's versions in ASS or Action, in your estimation?

ASS, lol

sorry. can a mod delete that post please?

between this and that M. Night/Will Smith movie plot, hollywood is crazy for beacons in 2013

LOL

Ok so..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ras0b2SOzp8

http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/wb/manofsteel/

Hmm, the page you’re looking for can’t be found.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEUHTDtbLPA

chicken with plums looks good

Starting to think it's impossible to make a good Superman movie.

(Though I'd take any of the Reeve films over that shitclod from 2006.)

looks shite

superman returns was good

Rob Guillory ‏@Rob_guillory

Zack Snyder should be applauded for not doing the Man of Steel teaser that he REALLY wanted: A Slow motion punch that lasts 2 minutes.

superman 2; best superhero/comic movie ever i mean come on.

eh I wouldn't go that far.

will go as far as "movie, i mean come on"

lol yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUhramQcyKw

Intriguing exchange: "What was I supposed to do? Let them all die?" "Maybe."

Could work.

this movie is going to be a DELIGHT

I didn't see any super slo-mo in the trailer, so cautious hope.

I hate absolutely everything about it. I know that's hyperbolic, but Snyder really bothers me and this trailer just gets my hackles up.

So basically every movie trailer has to look like Dark Knight Rises now?

I hope Pa Kent dies because he goes on a murdering spree attempting to eradicate witnesses who've seen Clark's powers in action and the police take him out in a hail of bullets

I want him to tell Clark that he does not belong on land, and that the ocean, his only home, calls to him.

"You don't understand! All the people in that bus DESERVED TO DIE!"
<hail of gunfire>

Pa Kent: "Clark, I wanted to send you to an adoption agency. It's only because your mother insisted..."
<Clark headbutts his old man so hard he goes into orbit>

after Pa Kent's death, Ma Kent starts an incestuous relationship with an already-traumatized Clark that is discovered by Clark's classmates, who record their illicit tryst and post it on the Internet, where it goes viral; Ma Kent hangs herself during the ensuing trial and Clark is put into a foster home with the wealthy, kindly Luthor family on the other side of town

Why so serious?

I want him to tell Clark that he does not belong on land, and that the ocean, his only home, calls to him.

― this will surprise many (Nicole), Tuesday, December 11, 2012 7:12 PM (5 minutes ago)

plot twist: this is secretly the story of Aquaman

strong, athletic Clark is embraced by the Luthors, much to the chagrin of their son, Clark's nerdy classmate Alexander; thus are sown the seeds of a sibling rivalry that will haunt the two for the rest of their adult lives

I would see all this movie.

I was kind of excited by the pre-Dark Knight Rises (or Bourne, maybe?) teaser - it looked like a slow, grey melodrama about a New England fishing village (aka my catnip) before I figured out it was Superman.
Kind of looks like a turd now.

strong, athletic Clark is embraced by the Luthors, much to the chagrin of their son, Clark's nerdy classmate Alexander; thus are sown the seeds of a sibling rivalry that will haunt the two for the rest of their adult lives

hahaha yup

this looks shit

plot twist: this is secretly the story of Aquaman

Man of Creel

Po-faced Singer Superman + po-faced Ang Lee Hulk=no fun. Superman has always been one of the least dramatically compelling superheroes because he is Superman. Sort of like Thor with no family squabbling. Annoyed that they thought they could remedy this by grafting on internal pain and torment.

The twist, obviously, is that Kevin Costner is super, too, but he has mastered the art of not saving people.

I love Superman Returns.

I spent the whole movie feeling sorry for Criss.

I want him to tell Clark that he does not belong on land, and that the ocean, his only home, calls to him.

― this will surprise many (Nicole), Tuesday, December 11, 2012 2:12 PM (59 minutes ago) Bookmark

lol

ang lee's hulk is the greatest btw

I love Superman Returns.

Really? I thought it was clumsy and dull until Superman started peeping through Lois's windows like a stalker. Then I hated it.

there's 90% chance i will see this movie, but i do wonder how (or if?) all this "what kind of man do you want to be?" earnestness fits in with him being a dickless dork crushing on his co-worker

i'm so curious how all this fancy pants digital prestige camera biz works in a superman movie that there will have to a tidal wave of zzzz's from preview audiences for me not to see it

some people will really vigorously defend Superman Returns. its not really my bag, but it does do some pretty different things with the character

more like skeevy man returns

five years after knocking lois lane out with his super sperm...the man of steel is back to gaze at her longingly in his (still) secret identity.

it is a shame we won't find out whether he ever spoke to his son while the son was conscious

I anticipate having some very depressing conversations with my daughter about this movie (and, specifically, why we will not be watching it)

haha aww.

it just bums me out - my daughter (5 yo) is WAY into Superman and it's going to break her little heart that a) this movie is probably not going to be rated G and b) it is going to suck

"What was I supposed to do? Let them all die?" "Maybe."

god this is so fucking wrong URGH SMASH

maybe pa kent is the bad guy!

If the action sequences are going to be typical Snyder, then I'm going to hope 95% of it is Superman trying to get out of a sealed phone booth

careless talk costner lives

what I think would be great is if Superman did all of these great heroic things to offset the fact that every night he turns into a person-eating monster

this looks boring as fuck

Supermange

(xpost)

I blame all of you that went and saw Watchmen for this btw

Jeepers Supers

Hey the trailer sucked me into Watchmen, didn't realize they were going to ratfuck the source mat

I still kind of liked Watchmen

because you are satan

I don't think that's the only reason

I'd be OK with any Superman movie that featured Mxyzptlk, Solomon Grundy, Bizarro and a Prince soundtrack.

it's only the fourth-worst alan moore adaptation, so i mean, comparatively, i enjoyed it myself.

Watchmen wasn't that bad. I enjoyed most of it. It was maybe a little lifeless. The ending was meh.

I should go back and re-read and then I can shit my pants over this movie, maybe.

i'm not impressed with what snyder did with watchmen but could have been soooooo much worse

"mindlessly recreate the book except take out the alien and add more slo-mo kicking" - we've seen more horrifying takes

Watchmen was definitely better than League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and I refused to see From Hell

lol From Hell is better than both of those!

primarily because Hughes Bros actually know how to make a movie

(not that it was actually that good or anything)

I'd be OK with any Superman movie that featured Mxyzptlk, Solomon Grundy, Bizarro and a Prince soundtrack.

see I would totally take my kid to see this

will only watch if Ursa makes an appearance

i've never read league so i could just sit back and think "man when i was a little kid at nerd camp, we would have loved this crap" knowing said nerd camp kids once ran outside and pretended to be characters from spaceballs

i despised watchmen

watching this trailer again, it's hard to tell if it's gonna be good or not. there's some stuff in it that looks promising, and stylistically Snyder has reigned himself in. Really dig the shots of Supes hugging his mom and holding lois' hand. love the Donner superman but its time to get out from under its shadow

michael shannon's gonna be awesome, that's for sure.

i actually just watched the trailer finally and i'm kind of cautiously optimistic!

Shannon is the only thing promising about this

maybe it'll go all miracleman in the final third and an entire city will get ultra-violently destroyed after which benign super-fascist takes over the planet

i mean that's what I'D do

whether as filmmaker or super hero

amy adams is going to be a totally awesome lois lane, if they let her cut loose.

Lois Lane is one of the most thankless 'iconic' characters anyone could ever play, i don't even know what the best case scenario for playing LL is

i'm kinda scared clark will be this emo dude in glasses pouting at her from behind

like at this point in AA's career it almost feels a little beneath her (xp)

i can see this being pretty good, i know it was said before about the teaser but the first 45 seconds or so of the trailer give off a heavy malick/levi's commercial vibe, mystical voiceover + gorgeous midwestern scenery

tree of life but about superheroes is a movie i would really like to see so im just going to pretend this will be that

Lois Lane is one of the most thankless 'iconic' characters anyone could ever play, i don't even know what the best case scenario for playing LL is

― some dude, Tuesday, December 11, 2012 5:03 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

no way, lois is awesome

oh there have been some decent takes on lois in various comics. i mean, it's not the "iconic" reading, no, where she's a ballbuster to clark and a slavish super-dick devotee otherwise, but there's places you could go.

max i think it will be that, except its gonna be 'father... other father... always u wrestle inside of me'

lol @ comparing Zack Snyder to Terence Malick

I like how now there are at least two pretty intriguing trailers for next June...and the final products rest on M Night Shyamalan and Zack Snyder

well we survived the mayan apocalypse so anything's possible now i guess

wait no we haven't yet

DON'T FUCK IT UP, YOU DOOFS

may you live to see the spawn (of will smith)

lol @ comparing Zack Snyder to Terence Malick

― Twerkin in a coal mine (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, December 11, 2012 5:06 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

agreed, such an insult to Snyder

Synder's Dawn of the Dead remake was p good, i thought, especially the first twenty minutes or so, but nothing he's done since has filled me w/ much hope.

From Hell is far more of a travesty of the source material than Watchmen is, but then part of the problem w/ Watchmen is its literal-minded fidelity

still, this can't be any worse than Superman Returns, which has to be one of the most disastrous superhero movies of all time. bryan singer is the fucking worst.

Bryan Singer is no Uwe Boll

I grew up with Margot Kidder, who had a raspy chainsmoker's voice and was brusque and bitchy and exactly the right Lois imo.

"malick/levi's commercial" was the devastating part of that post, not that it was re: a snyder movie

margot was so rad as lois

lol valerie perrine, wherefore art thou

Snydy's Dawn of the dead is fantastic

Lois is v much a Katherine Hepburn/His Girl Friday-prototype in my mind

not sure that archetype works in 2012 though

i kinda wish the need to do the whole backstory deal wasn't a prerequisite for getting these things made. of all the super heroes, do we really need an hour's worth of SUPERMAN: WHEREFROM DID HE COME FROM AND WHAT DOES HE DO?

Lois was inspired by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torchy_Blane. Never seen any of the movies but they sound close enough to the His Girl Friday model

The first 20 minutes of Zack Snyder's "Dawn" were great, but then it settles into pretty pro forma/mediocre from there on out. It's everything he's done since then that gives me little hope for this, though I guess I didn't totally mind "Watchmen." Certainly the director I wouldn't go to for pensive mood pieces and internal struggle, though.

JOR-EL IS YOUR DADDY, AND WHAT DOES HE DO? xp

god i keep forgetting snyder did the dawn remake, that was fine

300 (2006)—“Theron”
DW: Yeah, that worked out well, didn’t it? (Laughs.) That worked out fine! Zack (Snyder) was hilarious. I mean, what a guy. He’s got about a hundred kids, Zack, and he’s the biggest kid of them all. He’d go, like, “Well, damn, what if a giant took on a midget, and they just went, ‘BOOM!’ Wouldn’t that be cool?” And I’m like, “Uh, okay, sure!”

every Zack Snyder movie would be better if it starred talking owls

ga'hoole.

ga'hoole could easily be a kryptonian name

i guess it'd be ga-hoole

yeah, Ga'hoole is a dragonrider of Pern

i was gonna make a tortured ga-hole joke and then realized i was conflating this thread with the rimming thread

DOTD was pretty rad, i mean considering the shitty '70s horror remakes that came along in its wake i think it looks even better. watchmen was semi-ok when i watched it but the more i thought about it over time, it felt particularly cold and gloomy and not in the good way. opening credits sequence was killer though. 300, whatever.

Dawn benefitted by falling right in the middle of tons of glossy remakes of grimy '70s drive-in fare and not totally sucking. And having the dramatic action-movie sense, I suppose, to speed up the zombies, albeit a little too much and following in the footsteps of "28 Days Later," but it's a trait that's stuck. Even Romero's zombies have gotten more agile, and they're fast on "Walking Dead," too.

The rest of the Snyder oeuvre has been like one long exercise in filters and ramping.

i kinda wish the need to do the whole backstory deal wasn't a prerequisite for getting these things made. of all the super heroes, do we really need an hour's worth of SUPERMAN: WHEREFROM DID HE COME FROM AND WHAT DOES HE DO?

― the oral history of (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, December 11, 2012 5:29 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You are John Byrne and I claim my $5.

once you stop pretending it's a movie, 300 becomes kind of hilarious

They should have Superman emerge from the center of the earth like the aliens in the "War of the Worlds" remake.

DOTD was pretty rad, i mean considering the shitty '70s horror remakes that came along in its wake i think it looks even better.

otm

doesnt hurt that it had a pretty nice james gunn script too

300 is a movie i would love to find as badass and kewl as everyone else but its just a big whatever to me

Superman the Musical. (Not the sixties Broadway thing.)

Anyway, I want the version of Lois that really doesn't care for Clark or Superman at all because she has a job and stuff.

http://www.harkavagrant.com/nonsense/loislanesm.png

300 is an extended videogame trailer with obscene amounts of bullet-time

plus abs

love how beaton drew lois like in the fleischer cartoons

xp: oh right, combination videogame trailer/Bowflex testimonial

i kinda wish the need to do the whole backstory deal wasn't a prerequisite for getting these things made. of all the super heroes, do we really need an hour's worth of SUPERMAN: WHEREFROM DID HE COME FROM AND WHAT DOES HE DO?

― the oral history of (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, December 11, 2012 5:29 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You are John Byrne and I claim my $5.

― Gollum: "Hot, Ready and Smeagol!" (Phil D.), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 09:55 (8 minutes ago)

uh the same John Byrne that did one six-issue miniseries, then a four-issue miniseries, then another four-issue miniseries, then a fourth, four-issue miniseries, all about WHEREFROM DID HE COME FROM AND WHAT DOES HE DO?, in two years?

And of course:

http://io9.com/5967542/what-secrets-does-the-man-of-steel-trailer-hold-our-shot+by+shot-breakdown

Xp yes and then got a little butthurt over "Superman:Birthright" iirc.

i've been called a lot of things on this board but john byrne might be the worst

300 and Watchmen were terrible, but they didn't prepare me for Sucker Punch, which was literally one of the worst movies I've ever seen. Dude is THE WORST.

oh god, i am so sick of superhero movies for adults, i guess TDKR finally pushed it over the edge for me, but this shit has got to stop it just has got to stop

Sucker Punch was totally terrible, but also hilarious in its ineptitude

I loved that they never once showed her dancing, because she was manifestly terrible at it given her inability to sway in tempo

s1ocki otm

christopher nolan presents a film by zack snyder is just the worst thing i could ever imagine seeing at the front of a movie, you people who are all like "hmmm! could be neat!" are fucking crazy

I'm just going to keep bringing up Uwe Boll

shouldn't have swallowed so much

slocki i agree with you but i will still see this because emotionally i am 10 year olds

oh i'll see the fucking thing

sigh

we are what we are, man

*kicks dirt, storms off*

you guys are such gluttons for punishment. never fails to amaze me.

man what else am i gonna do with two hours? work? make a child i can't take care of? mow the lawn? lament all of the life choices that led to me to watching yet another shitty super hero movie?

otm

oh god, i am so sick of superhero movies for adults, i guess TDKR finally pushed it over the edge for me, but this shit has got to stop it just has got to stop

I knew there was a DVD version of Year One (ugh) but they've done Dark Knight too? Does it keep the other (non-Gotham) DC characters in?

i am pretty sure slocki meant the dark knight rises

but they DID do an animated dark knight returns

i assume he means dark knight rises

im not convinced that this is 'for adults' it looks like its about superman holding hands and being nice to his mom and playing in cornfields

its dark and he has a beard iirc

christopher nolan presents a film by zack snyder is just the worst thing i could ever imagine seeing at the front of a movie, you people who are all like "hmmm! could be neat!" are fucking crazy

― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Tuesday, December 11, 2012 6:28 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark

brian singer presents a film by brett ratner

shit looks ass-y as hell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JMli3MopNs

Ghost217163 3 weeks ago
next step, gritty HBO series of Batman, one can only hope :D
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brian singer presents a film by brett ratner

― turds (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, December 11, 2012 6:42 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'll roll with the rat any day before i swing with the snyd

i am pretty sure slocki meant the dark knight rises

oh, pfft @ that

lol @ me for now wanting to waste two to four hours watching those shitty animated dkr's

i should just watch mask of the phantasm and go to bed

Joshua Lester 2 hours ago
I'm going to assume this mass of people are not from this generation, complaining about "too much CGI." CGI is the present/future of movies, and we're going to keep seeing more and more of it. CGI looks great and enables the creation of amazing worlds like the one seen in 'Avatar'. Is it just me or are these people crying about CGI just plain out of their minds? If the CGI in any way puts you off seeing this movie after watching this incredible trailer, you clearly aren't entirely sane.

i'll roll with the rat any day before i swing with the snyd

― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Tuesday, December 11, 2012 6:48 PM (17 seconds ago) Bookmark

smh. hey, i'll ride all day for the first two rush hours and even money talks. but snyder's got a way higher ceiling and i think he can do something good when he's not working from his own wretched vision

phantasm owns

some days i would say it's the best of all batman movies

'his own wretched vision' made me lol

shit seriously chokes me up every time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjAFbEP0wK4

sadly not even being sarcastic there

ALSO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6K1qNsE9v0

yeah, fuck it, i'm watching this tonight

aw man batman: the animated series was totally a fave growing up, didnt realize there was a movie too

dude you should totally watch this movie

the voice-acting is fucking amazing

BTAS is the best batman ever

truthbomb

Batman: The Animated Series

it's probably the best modern screen version of Batman, as someone else said on some other thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEgTcullKJI

clayface ;_;

^^ best BTAS

mr. freeze ;_;

that or "the laughing fish"

yeah the Clayface episodes are the peak imo

http://i.imgur.com/Bi4uc.jpg

i love the baby doll ep. and HARDAC. tyger tyger was a great episode when i was a kid who didnt know what furries were, but it might unsettle me now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUtLTxBYZHw

omg HARDAC

omg HARDAC

― 乒乓, Tuesday, December 11, 2012

otm

TAS strikes such a great balance tonally - it can be creepy and psychologically engaging but it doesn't do it in a hamfisted I R SERIOUS ADULT MATERIAL way, it makes no pretenses to realism

yeah the clayface episodes, for example, are totally silly and melodramatic, and yet i find them gripping and (in a weird way) kind of moving

HARDAC is my boy

hardac batman was great

http://i.imgur.com/KhpKO.jpg[

some days i would say it's the best of all batman movies

I've never seen Phantasm but I would wholeheartedly believe it's one of the only two good Batman movies ever

"This town needs an enema"

some days you can't get rid of a bomb

lol

the neo-fleischer with a dash o' toth art style, music, commitment to mood and atmosphere, great voice acting (how perfect is perlman's clayface) all go a long way. it does owe something to burton's batman in tone and style, but the writing is so much better. it was unembarrassed to be a children's entertainment, but it didn't talk down to kids either

it was unembarrassed to be a children's entertainment, but it didn't talk down to kids either

was reflecting the other day that my fav tv series from growing up were like this - batman TAS, tiny toons, exosquad, animaniacs

exosquad is still maybe my all time favorite cartoon

if i had three wishes they would be peace on earth, batman: tas on netflix instant, and more wishes

what was the future batman one

batman beyond

exosquad was my fucking jam back in the day dude. that shit blew me away, there wasnt nothing else like it

haha yup, it's all on hulu I think http://www.hulu.com/search?q=exosquad

I was so happy the day like 5 years ago when I found a torrent of exosquad .rm's even though they were .rm's

the tiny toons and then animaniacs pop culture madlibs style of writing just comes off as so hacky and lame now. loved it back then because it made me feel clued in, but it doesn't hold up

cant think of a joke? just make a reference to a random celebrity and ship it off to the worst animation studio in korea. steven spielberg put his name on this crap

freakazoid was the shit though

freakazoid, like the tick, was a little above my pay grade at the time

still kinda mystified that there was a live action tick show?

yes

i approve of BTAS derail

the tick cartoon did a great job of capturing that 90s independent comics feel. i never watched the live action one but yes it is incredibly weird that it existed

It was on Netflix last time i saw. Pretty awesome. Puddy from Seinfeld is the perfect Tick.

it was unembarrassed to be a children's entertainment, but it didn't talk down to kids either

superhero movies should strike this tone imo, viz superman 1

the only new superman i have any interest in seeing is a live action adaptation of morrison's superman beyond 3d. i don't get the nerd fuss over this new trailer.

i actually own the entire batman animated series in a box set but i've never seen it

WHAT

GET THE FUCK OFF THE INTERNET AND FIRE UP THAT DVD PLAYER FFS

Trailer SLAYS

GET THE FUCK OFF THE INTERNET AND FIRE UP THAT DVD PLAYER FFS

― my dinner of butt (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, December 11, 2012 8:42 PM (44 seconds ago) Bookmark

We should talk about Batman Beyond more, if that had been out when I was a kid it would have messed me up

As an adult though its just "this is gripping enough that I can enjoy this with my son"

Also: THE FUTURE IS CREEPY

BaBey started airing when i was like 14. i watched a little of it when it started but i wasnt really fucking with cartoons for the rest of HS

I remember telling adults to watch BTAS and being really annoyed by their cavalier dismissal. Parents just don't understand.

i watched a little of it when it started but i wasnt really fucking with cartoons for the rest of HS

if only i could have said this

Live action Tick was A+.

my brother watched Batman Beyond as faithfully as TAS but i just wasn't having it, the whole thing seemed like a terrible idea to me

So Phantasm is great? I remember it getting good reviews when it came out...

it is awesome

it's.... phantastic http://i49.tinypic.com/33wy4au.jpg

still kinda mystified that there was a live action tick show?

I've never seen either TV version but how on earth is it weirder that there's a live-action version starring Puddy than that there was a cartoon?

I've seen two Ben Edlund eps of Angel though, they were dope iirc

live action Tick was not as good as the toon but very good

Cartoon was great

whats the deal with batman beyond

i watched the first few episodes when it started and it was pretty good

the bit that sticks w/ me is from this episode where the bad guys implant something in bruce wayne's brain and try to like make him think hes crazy w/ voices in his head and he gets locked up in the hospital. and at the end the new batman is like "how did you know that you werent crazy and werent actually hearing voices?" and wayne is like "in my head i dont call myself bruce wayne." END. it was a v well done Moment

Kevin Conroy: BEST BATMAN EVER.

If any of you are feeling masochistic, try tracking down a podcast ILX favourite Kevin Smith did a while back with Conroy in which: 1) Smith breaks down in tears recounting his favourite Conroy-as-Batman scene 2) has Conroy use his Batman voice to tell him he's the best and the critics are all wrong.

well now i hate u kevin conroy

just kidding, i could never

i would probably cry if I talked to conroy to. loved that damn cartoon.

*too

It's not the crying I object to, it's Kevin Smith.

oh no, i know

yeah, i think that was p clear

besides, it's ilx, what else could u possibly have meant

i don't think i'll ever cry again, the whole thing has been tainted by Kevin Smith now

good going some dude, I hope everyone is prepared for 150 posts full of "Kevin Smith's taint" jokes

RIP cry

can we just talk about cartoon batman some more and forget the notion of kevin smith's taint-stained jorts

max otm, i hope

most encouraging thing about this to me is the score in the trailer is pretty good.

In keeping with the thread topic and the thread derail, Superman:TAS is one of my favorite depictions of Superman. They need to make a movie in that spirit, not the emo, teal + orange POS this new movie appears to be. STOP WITH THE EMO SUPES ALREADY FFS.

can we just talk about cartoon batman some more and forget the notion of kevin smith's taint-stained jorts

well now i hate u strongo

old lunch I uncovered evidence that you hated batman: TAS, u are banished into the hinterlands and ur opinions are categorically invalidated

this may be my favorite batman coming of the last 20 years and i encourage everyone with an interest in batman or good comics to find a copy

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Ib2nKMhGL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

that should have said "batman comic" and not "batman coming" but now i can't stop thinking about "batman coming" and the proximity of that thought to the thought kevin smith's taint is going to result in a bleach cocktail if i don't go to my happy place right now.

well now i really hate u strongo

I may have said Batman:TAS was overrated (tho still v good) but never said I hated it. I dig all the Diniverse stuff.

can we get dan lacey to illustrate this thread?

I was *obsessed* with Batman TAS in college (I don't think I watched in HS bcz it didn't air right away in Aus? Couldn't find anything online to confirm.)

So bizarre guys

I basically rate all of the Dini stuff as one high-qual continuum which is why I don't make a big deal about Batman specifically.

that sentence still makes sense, "my favorite batman coming out of the last 20 years," means the same thing

it could also mean he's no longer interested in living the lie of the closet i guess

my favorite batman "coming out" arc of the last 20 years

The Dark Knight Comes

the batman cometh

gives "Dark Knight Rises" a whole new meaning

Strongo otm, "Mad Love" is great.

Can't wait to see dude's hipster take on Clark Kent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6DJcgm3wNY

Russell Crowe as Jor-el content, beware.

Bleurgh

Really kinda dreading this. Sadface desaturated Superman = do not want. Also impossible to imagine a Superman movie without John Williams' theme.

I am so tired of emo Nolan-esque superheroes.

Things/people/scenery will be punched.

Realistically that's all we can ask for.

Men will be supered.

MEN. WILL. STEEL.

this looks terrible.
definitive superman story is moore/gaiman's take on miracleman. someone needs to get around to filming that... because moore films have been so consistently strong of course.

Miracleman is undeniably great but I don't read it as a Superman story - I much prefer Grant Morrison's take on the character as the embodiment of the best aspects of humanity. Morrison and Quitely's All-Star Superman is the quintessential Superman story to me.

I guess the reason the character has lasted as long as he has is that he's malleable enough to tell whatever kind of stories creators want to with him, but what I've seen of this interpretation doesn't appeal to me at all.

"On my planet, this symbol means hope."

FAAAAAAAAAAART

"On my planet, this symbol means HAM-FISTED CHRIST PARALLELS"

My Question:
Dear General ZOD,

I find myself wondering what your opinion is on gay marriages and abortion. I am sure that you will have the solution that Planet Houston has been searching for. You seem to come from a "Sexually liberated" planet, as demonstrated by your devotion to your sadistic, wild eyed girlfriend and furry, "monkey man" sidekick. Us on Planet Houston can only wonder what happens in the glorious bedroom of General ZOD, but since you never seem to have time to take off your pajamas, it must be exhausting. I await your superior advice on this confusing subject...

Zod's Response: What I do not understand is why matters such as marriage of any sexes would concern a slave who should be doing nothing but kneeling in tribute to me! It appears as though you will soon discover my opinion on abortion, however, for I have just decided to abort your life! DIE AS YOU DESERVE TO!

My Question:
o powerful ZOD i would like to kneel before you but i have no legs what should i do?

Zod's Response: An understandable question that many slaves have asked before. I have actually shot off the legs of a few defiant slaves in the past and they too begged to know how they could now kneel before me. The answer is simple. You must now lie face-down before Zod. Do you understand? LAY BEFORE ZOD!

this is gonna own

nolan batman was excruciating enough, now we get zach snyder's inept take on it. given that nolan mistook batman's secret police fascism for rah-rah NYPD fascism i wonder how offensively snyder will handle supes' paternalistic aw-shucks fascism.

this movie deserves kevin costner and vice versa. kevin costner should play all the roles.

My Question:
How many licks does it take to get to the center of YOUR MOM?

Zod's Response: Who is this "Mom" that you speak of? I have no mother, I came from pure energy matter. If I did have a "Mom" she would be my slave or would be killed. And there would be no "licks" to get to the center of her. My eye-lasers would do get to the center of her in one shot. This is what happens to those to defy ZOD!

Miracleman is undeniably great but I don't read it as a Superman story - I much prefer Grant Morrison's take on the character as the embodiment of the best aspects of humanity. Morrison and Quitely's All-Star Superman is the quintessential Superman story to me.

kevin costner choking up was the best part of this

Will we finally find out how Superman became Superman?

Why is this alien wearing a costume with a giant "S" on it? Because punching things! FIXED

How exactly did Superman get picked up by the cops?

speeding

David Goyer to write an Axe Cop screenplay that gives a realistic explanation for why Hitler is building a zombie army in space.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/videos/60L.jpg

i'm ok with this

least promising aspect is more giger-y bug aliens. enough with that shit!

maybe zac snyder always wanted to film an alternate version of the sweet hereafter

(sorry)

They should have gone the whole way with the Giger vibe and just adapted this:

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111015140708/avp/images/a/a5/Saltpb.jpg

^would watch

Can't be any worse than Prometheus!

I was just saying the other day how I would watch Michael Shannon in anything, but I guess this film puts paid to that

So . . . kneel before Zod, I guess?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlOF03DUoWc

He seems annoyed.

Michael Shannon looks like the only redeeming factor in this trainwreck

Whoever it is they cast as Ursa is a pretty decent ringer for the one in the 1978 film.

So far no fast-then-SLOOOOOOOOW Synderiffic bits. So far.

idk this looks all right. shannon is worth the ticket price regardless imo

Snyder is incompetent as a filmmaker

NEVAR FORGET

"Tonight we dine...on mice!" -- come anticipate or at least acknowledge 'Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole' as directed by Zach Snyder

i wouldn't know actually. i've seen the first 25 mins of 300 and that's it

superman looks v superman-y, at least in the Christopher Reeve stereotype burned into my brain. idk. Sat through the trailer twice now at Iron Man 3 and Star Trek, kinda feeling like I could give this a shot.

i dug Watchmen. could give a shit about 300 or Gahoolio

but yeah Shannon is a big draw for me.

I don't think Snyder's technically incompetent at all. His movies are visually coherent and have a pretty definable aesthetic, it just happens to be a flashy and dumb one. Like, the problems with Watchmen or 300 aren't with the visuals or shot composition.

This actually looks pretty good for what it's supposed to be. Certainly the trailer is already better than the 2006 movie.

the 2006 movie

Let us cease speaking of this.

hahahaha

Like, the problems with Watchmen or 300 aren't with the visuals or shot composition

I have serious problems with his visuals. shot composition = eh okay. editing and storytelling-wise the guy is a disaster.

JF otm. we need to make a pact

editing and storytelling-wise the guy is a disaster.

I intensely dislike the movie, but how is 300 a storytelling disaster? It tells the story it wants to tell coherently. It's dumb, fascist and flashy, but it's not incompetent.

re: 300 you couldn't pay me to watch the whole thing. the fact that he treats comic books sources like storyboards is a huge problem imho. it signals a fundamental misunderstanding of how films work.

I forgot about Sucker Punch tho haha

tbh I don't think "because I don't like it" is sufficient evidence for dude being a storytelling disaster

"Sucker Punch" hahahahahaha I really cannot laugh enough at that movie

the fact that he treats comic books sources like storyboards is a huge problem imho. it signals a fundamental misunderstanding of how films work.

I don't think that's the problem with 300 since it's a simple story anyway. With a dense work like Watchmen it's a huge problem.

^ x 10000

the problem with 300 is that it wasn't just "THIS... IS... SPARTA! *kick*" on a 45 minute loop

Will this do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSTJMdgVRj0

I don't want to watch some Nolanized miseryguts Superman.

so glad (some of) you guys are happy to keep encouraging this idiot's career. plz sir may I have another etc.

I'm gonna rewire all the media outlets in your house so that they play nothing but Snyder movies

Yes, we're all huge Snyder fans here (we call ourselves the the Ruff Snyders)

welcome to our Snyder web

have a glass of apple Snyder

personally I can't wait for Zach Snyder's "The Yellow Wallpaper"

shakey relax

Hey guys just got back from finishing my SNYDE OR DIE tattoo what's up

i have a pair of google glasses that play nothing but snyder movies 24-7 it's the best u guys

snyde or die loooooooooooool

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I was supposed to go get lunch 14 minutes ago and instead I am listening to the audio of this video Ned posted while clicking over to its tab every now and then to see if the visuals have changed

this movie looks cool as heck

Yes, we're all huge Snyder fans here (we call ourselves the the Ruff Snyders)

― lego maniac cop (latebloomer), Wednesday, May 22, 2013 1:22 PM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark

lol

Shakey Morbz Collier

this is the first trailer to make this look possibly good

http://www.spscriptorium.com/Season12/bodysnatchers.jpg

They got to you too. :(

How many people can be pissed off in how many different ways by one quote? Let's find out!

And producer Christopher Nolan acknowledges the irony that Snyder is making a movie about the original superhero after making a movie adaptation of the ultimate superhero deconstruction in Watchmen:

"It’s ironic but it’s a very productive irony. You’re dealing with a filmmaker who has deconstructed this mythology and now has to reconstruct it. That’s a fascinating challenge for him... [Zack has an] innate aptitude for dealing with superheroes as real characters. That was what a new approach to Superman required. He understands the power of iconic images, but he also understands the people behind them."

hey wait, are we going to get slomo shots of young angsty Superman pulling limbs off of people, because I fully endorse that

Confirming this will flag the post for the attention of the moderators.

Posters whose posts are repeatedly flagged may be limited from posting or banned.

I didn't hit the button, btw. I was just tempted. I only flag the posts of people who defame Duran Duran.

THIS... IS... SMALLVILLE! *tears mugger in half*

hey dan does your ILX mail work

(if you are just ignoring me nbd)

sorry it does, it's just an account I rarely check

http://rhetoricsuperhero.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/quitely4.jpg

Superman needs to be more like Black Adam imo

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123659/2423284-crisis6p3.gif

yo sic

Boston -- Classic or Dirty Water?

innate aptitude

just gonna assume he meant ineptitude here

It's only Nolan, he thought that last Batman film actually made sense

Sad we're not going to get that movie with Batman and Superman chilling together, but I wouldn't want to see these guys hang out anyway

First review by Glenn Kenny is a good one:

http://movies.msn.com/movies/movie-critic-reviews/man-of-steel.2/

Shakey-bait: directed by admittedly somewhat audacious blockbuster engineer Zack Snyder

at least he doesn't make the mistake of calling him a filmmaker

http://manofsteelresources.com/

lol touché

The thing that bothers me most about this movie is the color palette, to be honest. Not nearly bold and comic-y enough.

i feel like that font is intended to remind us that nolan is involved. also, you have to have eagle vision to read the title.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-o4ZmF_PjQxE/UalCGYQXLDI/AAAAAAABGXU/5TR8hxk986U/s800/man+steel+billboard.jpg

it's like an eye test

Halls Cough Drops: The Movie

do we get special glasses in the mail so we can read the fucking thing or

by we I mean you because obv I am not in the greater LA area

at local screening last night, critics were horrified, if their FB posts this morning are any indication.

how so?

5 minutes in, the print they were watching jumpcut to "A Serbian Film"

It's a risky move, the implications of which are fully realized in the movie's tense climax, in which Superman is compelled to act in a way that none of the other prior screen incarnations of the hero would ever have even considered.

gonna go out on a limb here and guess that Superman kills some innocent people

FINALLY the grim and gritty superman movie that no one was asking for

cool, we're getting pre-Crisis Superman

in bone-snapping 360-degree rotating slowmo

ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY BY

CHRISTOPHER NOLAN

DAVID S. GOYER

THAT "SUPERMAN IS A DICK" WEBSITE GUY

Superman goes on a PCP binge and eats off Lex Luthor's face

Wait, he eats off of his face, or eats his face off?

he eats a tasty calzone off Lex Luthor's face, yes that's exactly what I was saying

"Oh hey Kal-El would you like a tasty calzone?"

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