High Fidelity: Classic Or Dud?

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I'm talking about the film OF COURSE, not the pissy book. Let's have this thing punching its full weight. And none of your script-books either, young man. What you see on the screen is what you get.

Was it any good? Was it true?

I've been out with Charlie, and I've met the man who wore the hair and the shirt of Mr. Cusack, in fact he shares bits of my DNA. But organising your record collection autobiographically? organising your record collection full stop? Does anyone? Top five anything? Does anyone? DO YOU?

ARE YOU JUST A BIG FOOL?

― Al Ewing, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I like dthe film although I hated the actress who played his girlfeind

― Pennysong Hanle y, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

but john cusack = CLASSIC

i've not seen the film (tho i have read the book), but i wouldn't care *what* order he put my records in. actually, having said that my boyfriend is a bit of a tidy-records freak and it can get somewhat annoying, as i am definitely of the 'make a big sloppy pile with whatever is on at the moment at the top' skool. then when my back is turned for 0.0001 seconds it gets cleared up which confuses the hell out of me.

so, er, the answer is yes i suppose.

no to the top 5s though. 'specially not at 10 in the morning.

― katie, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

not bad, thouhg loses points for confusing evil dead 2 with evil dead 3 - you'd think a iflm about anal obsessives would be, but no - they fucked up.

― Geoff, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Alphabetically by artist - anyone who doesn't need to organise their collection in some way simply DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH RECORDS! Far preferred the film to the book (the latter was a bit of a dud), though I also prefer Roger Moore to Sean (*spit*) Connery, so go figure.

Put simply, Cusack rocks in *everything* - how could you possibly be a doubter?

― ogden, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

top 5 hat-themed records

Hats Off To Larry- Del Shannon (this is Officially The Best Song Ever Written, as well)
Some Questions About Hats- Slapp Happy
Safety Dance- Men Without Hats
My Hat- Pere Ubu
Stetson Kennedy- Billy Bragg

― emil.y, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

It doesnt count if the name hat is in th eband title

― Pennysong Hanle y, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Pah, it's 'hat-themed records' so technically I could have included every Men Without Hats song ever.

A more fitting technicality would be that as they state categorically that they are WITHOUT hats, it's not hat-themed at all.

In that case, I substitute 'My hat it has three corners, three corners has my hat...' or 'The Sun Has Got It's Hat On'

― emil.y, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

How can you leave out All Around My Hat by Steeleye Span??? Folk-Rock in down-the-toilet-forever shocker?

― ogden, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Because I don't like it, that's why.

Deduct points for bad apostrophe use. 'The Sun Has Got Its Hat On', surely?

― emil.y, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

'Wherever I Lay My Hat' by Marvin Gaye (not Paul Young, natch...)

'Hats Off to (Roy) Harper' by Led Zeppelin.

Second Blue Nile alb is called 'Hats'.

― Andrew L, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The characters in that film were creepily similiar to this guy that worked at a record shop in Christchurch and now works at one in Wellington.

Yes of course people organise their record collection. In fact i don't know anyone who doesn't.

― hamish n00nan, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Cusack lost his classic status for me after I saw "High Fidelity." I hated it. I hated all the characters, except the skater kids. Such a joyless, anal world they all lived in. If that's rockist, then no, I'm not one.

Plus it was crappy as a relationship movie. And Jack Black was so much better, so much more over the top, in Jesus' Son

But I was shocked that Catherine Zeta Jones was the best thing in the movie. She can really act!

OK-"She Bought a Hat Like Princess Marina"-Kinks

"Leopard Skin Pill Box Hat"-Dylan

"Kings Lead Hat" - E

― Arthur, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Eno! Eno, dammit. Not that drip E!

― Arthur, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Emily,

another Del Shannon fan here! Will wonders never cease? "Hats Off To Larry" = ROXOR (but coldly, mechanically, efficiently: as far from Little Richard as it is near to John Baker).

I'd have to include "All Around My Hat" for all kinds of arcane personal reasons most of which have little to do with ILM. It's a record I don't listen to much, and don't even think is particularly good, but conceptually and culturally it is one of Britain's greatest ever pop contrivances (and a record that could, I think, NEVER have been a hit at any other time, as inconceivable 10 years later as 10 years before). That is however not, in itself, any sort of musical recommendation.

― Robin Carmody, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ah Robin, just admit it like wot I do. All around my hat is easily one of the best pop songs ever written and is rarely from my lips when pissed.

My record collection is in no order. Apart from the New Order records which are in a new order which resembles the old order in as much as there is no order.

― Pete, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I hated the film because NO WAY would a struggling record store guy have an apartment like that in Wicker Park. I wish I could afford a place like that. It was huge. Plus, I've never seen kids skateboarding in the street like that. And his girlfriend in the film was a Trixie , and Lincoln Park girls just don't go out with guys like that, unless, of course, they're really John Cusack disguised as a record store guy.

― Kerry, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

(i wuv it when that happens: mark s has spasm of HTML related schadenfreude)

― mark s, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I have at least 1000 CDs (I've never counted them). Yesterday was the first time I've attempted to put them order EVER. I discovered that about 30 of them are AWOL... BALLS!

I was happier when they were a disorganized mess. At least I didn't know what I was missing.

― Dan Perry, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"Me and the guys have been talking, and we reckon that what you like is at least as important as what you _are_ like. Music, Films, Books: these things matter"

So QED this board must find it classic. Also for the The Beta Band scene (what was the song in the book?) and the brief fantasies of Rob Vs Ian.

A lot of people I know saw the film after reading the book, and complained that they'd niced up Rob too much. But seeing it a second time, he is a complete bastard at times in the film, it's just that he's played by John Cusack, and everyone loves John Cusack.

― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I would have liked to have seen a few more scenes of Rob standing in the rain. Three of four wasn't enough. It's a really good metaphor.

Mark S.: God, yes Affording the rent for the store alone is a stretch. Re Lincoln Park Trixies: Why do you...don't you live in the UK? (yes, the interweb thingy is international, but connotations, etc...)

That said, even though I in no way am aligning myself with the lead character it is strange seeing a film in which you are familiar with basically every public, interior location: clubs, bars, shops, restaurants, cafés.

― scott p., Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

(scott p you have confused me with kerry dymaxia: i wuz merely snickering feebly at how her point had collapsed ignobly due to bludged html. she made the actual smart point)

― mark s, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Oops. I made myself John Cusack's girlfriend, is what I did. Which would actually be more likely than a Trixie . It's pretty funny because someone applied on my behalf for the Trixie Society, and I got accepted.

― Kerry, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Wait, is that Trixie thing serious? It looked like a pisstake to me.

― Richard Tunnicliffe, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ah, yes. I am a fool.

Over the weekend I saw a black Jetta double-parked in front of the posh dog grooming place and Banana Reupublic on Halsted near Armitage with a "KERRY" vanity plate and was wondering if that was yours. ;)

― scott p, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The trixie site is a satire created by two gay men, but they really exist.

― Kerry, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Trixies really exist, that is.

― Kerry, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Cracks me up too, Mark.

Unfortunately, Pete, "All Around My Hat" wasn't far from Steve Wright's lips recently when he was (presumably) far from pissed. That's enough to cheapen anything, though the production still RoXoR.

― His girlfriend was a Dymaxia (not literally), Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

You could have cheated and used Men W/O Hates album Greatest Hats and filled your Safety Dance cravings. Safety Dance is never the same after you've seen the Safety Ape dance to it.

― Mr Noodles, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'm a girl and I totally identified with the guy, specially the mix tape thing. John Cusack is a total honey. Classic. Oh, and Trixies? Wtf?!?!?!? Makes me glad I'm English ;)

― Debs, Thursday, 13 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'm sure I found the film mildly depressing in some way, although I can't quite remember why. Perhaps it was the tremendous sense of mediocrity dressed up as passion. Not a great film, by any strech of the imagination.

― Ally C, Thursday, 13 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I think Boston had alot of Trixies too. And allot of blondes. The Charles is 50% peroxide

― Pennysong Hanle y, Thursday, 13 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

seven months pass...

Yes, of course Trixies are real. Pinch us, and we'll kick back. The Society is very real. Just look at the discussion board topic debating our legitimacy at www.lptrixie.com

Regards Ashley Burke Director of Communications Lincoln Park Trixie Society

― Ashley Burke, Saturday, 11 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Nutty thing is we have a (male) library worker named Ashley Burke. He has been described as Supermodel Ashley Burke by some.

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 11 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

You are surely a mentalist then, Ashley.

― RickyT, Saturday, 11 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Pinch us, and we'll kick back.

With what......yupscum SKELETON POWER? Haha, all you chicks will look and speak like Ann Coulter in 5 years, on the stremf. Someone link to the "stickers with Calvin pissing" thread, there are some highly apposite comments there re: your men. See, stuff like this Trixie culture thing is a challenge to me, because it's tough to find a watertight diss for something that's dissworthy simply on common sense.....like wearing a band shirt of the band youre seeing that night......there's no scientific or logical or ethical explanation why it's lame, but it just is, and everyone knows it.....but there's that one kid that doesn't know any better.....he did it last week, and when people clown he will be batshit enough to try to make a stand about 'why shouldn't you wear band shirts to the band's show? are you elitists?'......it's like that with that Trixie site.....constructing a diss on grounds of corniness isnt even worth the time cuz they're yupscum-impregnable.......here's one anyway......Trixie's are the kind of people that have made this phone call: "Hello? Mitsubishi? Ad department, please.........Hello? Yes, I just saw that commercial with the young people grooving and singing along in the car. I need to know what that song is!"

― Ramosi, Saturday, 11 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh shit, now I'm going to have their 'ringer' on my ass......you know, the law-talking "smart" one that handles all their battles......okay, okay, when you get back from rollerblading and read this, I'm SORRY. LEAVE ME ALONE.

― Ramosi, Saturday, 11 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

three months pass...

Jack Black is the real high point of this movie.

― Ron, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

don't make me puke

― electric sound of jim, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

DUD soooo so boring

― ducklingmonster, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

since dribbling about JC in this thread i have seen the film and was utterly and thoroughly bored by it. blimey, never thought i'd see the day when i wanted to punch john cusack! (tho i suppose i'd like to punch all nick hornby's characters) give me grosse pointe blank any day :(

― katie, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

nine months pass...

REVIVE! i just saw this movie last night on tele. i have a lot of mixed feelings about it. i wanted to hate it but it was a funny caricature, and i had to recognise myself in john cusack's character a little and its good to laugh at yourself, right?

― di smith (lucylurex), Monday, 12 May 2003 08:01 (twenty years ago) link

eleven months pass...

I watched this last night on BBC 3 for the first time (I vaguely remeber reading the book way back and being none too impressed) and all I kept thinking, all the way through was ILM ILM, that's so ILM. Sorry guys ;0(

― smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 11:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I really like this film I have to say.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 29 April 2004 11:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Never read it or watched it. Too englishy looking...

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 11:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Jesus I hate Jack Black so much.

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 29 April 2004 11:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Yay! Finally someone else who can't stand Jack Black. All my friends really like his stuff, and they don't understand why I get so annoyed with him.

― jellybean (jellybean), Thursday, 29 April 2004 11:24 (nineteen years ago) link

He doesn't even act, does anyone doubt he's actually exactly like his "characters" in real life?

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 29 April 2004 11:25 (nineteen years ago) link

I hate this film and all associated with it except John Cusack, who gets a bye because of being in Grosse Point Blank, the best film ever.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 29 April 2004 11:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Including the Beta Band, Nick?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 April 2004 11:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Romy and Michele's High School Reunion pisses all over Grosse Point Blank.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 11:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Not quite, Matt.

I'll have to take your word for it, N.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 29 April 2004 11:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Film is 100 x better than the book. This is saying VERY VERY little.

― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 29 April 2004 12:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Never read it or watched it. Too englishy looking...

you blithering moron it's set in chicago or somewhere and has an entirely american cast

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 12:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Mmmm, I guess I'm thinking about that Nick Hornby prat. Is this a different High Fidelity?

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 12:23 (nineteen years ago) link

no he wrote it, but the movie is v americanised. it's much better than the book. i like it, but i like john cusack so that's prob why.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 12:25 (nineteen years ago) link

just can't see how it's possible for something to look "englishy" when it's american.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 12:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Somebody enlighten me. Is Nick Fucking Hornby English or American - I clearly pointed out that I had not seen the movie, urk, film so I wouldn't know that it had been 'americanised'.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 12:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Nick Hornby is from North London. The book High Fidelity is set in North London. The film takes the story to Chicago.

Neither are much kop.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 12:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Unless you read anything about it anywhere. Where are you from that you're dissing things for being too english?

xpost

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 29 April 2004 12:32 (nineteen years ago) link

I knew what you meant Rumpy, the book was very English and there was a lot of English style hype around it.

― smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 12:39 (nineteen years ago) link

i hate everything not english

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 12:43 (nineteen years ago) link

No, I read nothing about the film anywhere, after reading the blurb and reviews of the book I had absolutely no reason to.

Do we know why the book had to be set in Chicago? Because it was too English?

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 12:44 (nineteen years ago) link

the book was set in london the film was set in chicago

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 12:46 (nineteen years ago) link

it was set in chicago because it was NOT FUCKING AMERICAN ENOUGH!!!

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 12:47 (nineteen years ago) link

They should have set it in Kilmarnock.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 12:49 (nineteen years ago) link

i couldn't care less where they set it, just that saying something is too english is like saying something is too american, too black, too jewish. plain fucking moronic.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 12:50 (nineteen years ago) link

I disagree. But that's possibly only because I love it when my Irish friend slags things off for being too English.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 12:53 (nineteen years ago) link

N - Now THAT would have been entertaining....

Dave - get over it mate, we are Scots and for historical reasons are entitled to complain about things being too english, so ner.

― smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 12:53 (nineteen years ago) link

It was set in Chicago because the musical Chicago had just come to London and the whole fabric of society would have collapsed unless art evened itself out.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 12:54 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah don't you know you're supposed to like all things equally? what's wroung with you?

xxxpost

― ooops, Thursday, 29 April 2004 12:54 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm half-scottish, half-irish.
to be honest i am glad i had the privilege of growing up in england, not scotland, otherwise i could have had a cultural life that consisted entirely of tennents super, sectarian football hooliganism and heroin.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, Dave.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:02 (nineteen years ago) link

No, making sweeping generilisations is moronic.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Dave, you have my sympathy.

― smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:03 (nineteen years ago) link

okay, okay - you gave the world golf, i could have had that if if was, like, real lucky.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Where I pointed out that a book was too english and had to be made more 'american' for a wider audience, I wasn't being a narrow minded racist buffoon. Unlike your goodself to whom insulting people who are not being offensive seems to come frighteningly easily.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, well I'm from Essex and I used to be a goth. You can't get more marginalised than that.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:06 (nineteen years ago) link

exactly - it was a really stupid thing for me to say and that wasn't what you were saying at all. it was a flippant classic kneekjerk bit of english-hating. i KNOW when i'm being an idiot.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:07 (nineteen years ago) link

This thread is not English enough. I demand some stiff upper lip.

― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:08 (nineteen years ago) link

But you're alright now, right Mikey?

― smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Um, are you sure Dave?

― smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:09 (nineteen years ago) link

sure about what?

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:11 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm fine thanks. Although after Chris & Vicky's wedding, my girlfriend asked what music we would have if we got married. I said Bauhaus.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Why on earth would you say it's english-hating? Again, generalisation. Do all Scots hate the English? Even ones like myself with English relatives? How the hell can you possibly categorise me? Someone you know nothing about other than the personality you appear to have attributed to me? You foolish foolish man.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:14 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm fine thanks. Although after Chris & Vicky's wedding, my girlfriend asked what music we would have if we got married. I said Bauhaus.

the proclaimers

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:15 (nineteen years ago) link

x-post - well you said "too englishy" (whatever the fuck that is) as perjorative. i'm just calling it as i see it.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Madness.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:16 (nineteen years ago) link

So wait, you're from _Scotland_, and you're complaining it's too English? Well, fair enough I suppose, it is a book.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Eh, look at Smees post regarding the setting and culture-speak in the book and you'll know what I meant.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Too uplifting.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:18 (nineteen years ago) link

The Proclaimers that is. Not this silly argument.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:20 (nineteen years ago) link

In chimes Andrew with a racist comment against Scots. Here we go. Sigh.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:20 (nineteen years ago) link

that i might benefit from the many delights scotland has bestowed on us poor philistine folks south of the border, i will listen to deacon blue and runrig for the rest of the day.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, when someone takes something out of context, gets their hackles up and starts retaliating with pish about drug addicts I feel compelled to defend myself. This is the first disagreement I have ever had on this board, as a mixed race person living in Scotland I do not have any strong patriotic ties so I would have absolutely no reason to chant racist pish to anyone. And I don't.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:24 (nineteen years ago) link

"In chimes Andrew with a racist comment against Scots. Here we go. Sigh."

Am I reading a different thread? Is what Andrew said racist?

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:24 (nineteen years ago) link

It clearly implied that 'scots don't read books'. Or am I misconstruing this? Please explain if I am.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:25 (nineteen years ago) link

It didn't come across that way to me. Only Andrew will know of course. I think you're a little wound up and reading between the lines.

I say we all take our clothes off.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Ignore Andrew F, he's showing his usual arrogant English cultural imperialistic snobbery.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:28 (nineteen years ago) link

you said something was TOO ENGLISH - i know i was talking bollocks... i was doing it to prove a point

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:28 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah andrew's the worst example of stuck-up englishness, just like that ronan

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Can I point out that delicious irony that half the bands bigged up in the film are SCOTTISH?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:29 (nineteen years ago) link

To prove a point. Okay, tell me what i said that was in any way derogatory to english people. Go on. Something preferably on par with your sick-making drug addict/sectarianism quip.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:31 (nineteen years ago) link

oh i am not repeating myself again... and don't forget the alcoholics

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Are any of the bands Runrig or the Proclaimers? Deacon Blue? Cause this is the only music we produce Matt.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Repeating yourself? You haven't yet stated what my racially pointed comment was.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Donald where's your trousers?

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:34 (nineteen years ago) link

That and the natural music of the agonised screams of tenement blocks.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:34 (nineteen years ago) link

The Beta Band bit is naffest evah. I was tres disappointed with the film, and I like Cusack AND Jack Black. It's no 'Con Air', put it that way.

BTW 'Con Air' FACT: 'In Da Club' is a clear steal off of the soundtrack. Truly.

― ENRQ (Enrique), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:34 (nineteen years ago) link

That's only racially pointed if you're not called Donald and you are wearing trousers.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:35 (nineteen years ago) link

I was winding up Scottish nationalists, a hobby of mine (the local nationalists are bit too dangerous to wind up).

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Dave, you're being a prick.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Crumbling estates and lush glens. Scotland - the land of contrasts.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:36 (nineteen years ago) link

He [Jack Black]doesn't even act, does anyone doubt he's actually exactly like his "characters" in real life?

Does this really matter? As long as the characters he's playing are reasonably close to what you seem to think is his real-life personality, does it matter that he's not an "actor"? At least in terms of High Fidelity, Black is much more convincing in his role than Cusack, who seems to think that squinting makes him edgy.

― NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Dave is surely winding up those that are getting so offended.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:36 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah he's being a prick

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Jack Black was very convincing as Jack Black, but that was what the role called for.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:38 (nineteen years ago) link

xpost

Squinting and shouting and wearing T-shirts (possibly the latter is not down to him).

I like Cusack in general.

― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Wot N said just about sums up my thoughts on this one...

― smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:39 (nineteen years ago) link

I didn't day he was being a prick, but I think he is winding certain folx on this thread!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:39 (nineteen years ago) link

cusack = dour. played up his character's unpleasant qualities.

black = amusing comic performance.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:39 (nineteen years ago) link

He was producer (and adapter?), so I would assume that he hand-picked T-shirts for the whole cast.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:40 (nineteen years ago) link

jack black is too american

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:40 (nineteen years ago) link

i think people using english as a perjorative is pretty bloody silly that's all.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:40 (nineteen years ago) link

and i have ADMITTED to being a prick

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Cusack, in the past 5 years or so, always looks like he's wearing mascara. It's offputting. Plus my girlfriend loves him more than me.

― NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Are any of the bands Runrig or the Proclaimers? Deacon Blue? Cause this is the only music we produce Matt.

nah, you can always fall back on del amitri

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:41 (nineteen years ago) link

And I meant that ppl shouldn't take it so seriously!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:41 (nineteen years ago) link

co-adaptor yeah, i forgot that. Shame, I would rather he were blameless. Mind you, they were working with pretty rank material.

― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Knowing that one is being a prick so doesn't stop one being a prick. This is one of the lessons I have learned in life.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:43 (nineteen years ago) link

I like Cusack. Apart from Serendipity, which is a pile of twat.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:45 (nineteen years ago) link

No, I get offended AFTER I've been wound up. Where did you go trawling Dave to find out that I live in Scotland? To bring that up was completely irrelevant. I came on to give my opinion on the tone of a book and I am greeted with a torrent of anti-scottish vitriol. I have NEVER been knowingly insulting on this board or in trw, why are you getting away with it and nobody gives a damn?

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Rumpy, you are taking the bait!!!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:47 (nineteen years ago) link

I've lived (meekly) with rascism all my life Pink, should I just carry on?

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Ummmm, it's kind of locationism rather than racism innit.

Why can't we all just get along?

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:48 (nineteen years ago) link

i didn't go trawling anywhere to find out you're scottish, i partly guessed and then had it confirmed by smees' post saying you were scottish. i am not anti-scottish my mother was.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:49 (nineteen years ago) link

This thread needs more Marcello.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:49 (nineteen years ago) link

i would never have called her "too scottish"

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:49 (nineteen years ago) link

So did everyone take their clothes off like I suggested? I've got a meeting with HR at 4pm to explain my conduct in the office.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah you should sit back and cope with that racism, as if. Don't be so overdramatic, you are quite obviously being wound up on this thread!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:50 (nineteen years ago) link

With Harry Redknapp, Mikey?

― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:52 (nineteen years ago) link

I was more bothered/surprised by the 'knock the poor and homeless' connotations of the heroin and Tennents Super thing, but hey, I'm English.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:52 (nineteen years ago) link

fun fact: one of the proclaimers is married to a dwarf.

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:53 (nineteen years ago) link

i apologise for all derogatory mentions of scots culture (apart from the music-related ones as scotland has a higher ratio of shit music/good music ratio than anywhere else in the world, imho)

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:53 (nineteen years ago) link

N is indeed wise..

― smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:53 (nineteen years ago) link

A certain ratio of ratio?

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Knocking the poor and homeless is the 'new' thing, don't you know? Classism's all the rage nowadays.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:54 (nineteen years ago) link

I was more bothered/surprised by the 'knock the poor and homeless' connotations of the heroin and Tennents Super thing, but hey, I'm English.

i mentioned golf, too. i knocked the middle classes.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Eventually.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, so golf is only for the middle classes then hmmmmmm?

― smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Anyway - I'm sorry. It was meant for the female ferret thread.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:55 (nineteen years ago) link

and i think everyone is forgetting that scotland also gave us calum, so i think i'm entitled to say whatever the hell i like.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:55 (nineteen years ago) link

When you go, will you send back, a midget from America.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:55 (nineteen years ago) link

THIS IS WHY NICK HORNBY SHOULD BE DESTROYED! HE'S LIKE THE SERPENT IN OUR GARDEN OF EDEN AND WE ARE ALL ASHAMED OF OUR NAKEDNESS!

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Lauren, I kiss you for that information!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Mikey I am posting that on the laugh out loud thread!

― smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Being overdramatic? I have put up and shut up with too much (anti-scottish rascism, anti-black rascism) and have only recently began standing up for myself. I've had my say now, the hackles are going down, and I'm going home to put my rangers top on and open another twenty deck.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:57 (nineteen years ago) link

(I actually like High Fidelity, I recognised a lot of myself in it though it pains me to says so, and the film worked as well in Chicago as it would have in London, or Edinburgh, which is why this is all very silly)

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:57 (nineteen years ago) link

I quite liked it too, though I don't know what I'd think if I read it now, with all the Hornby-hating that has been fed to me by this evil board.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes rumpy, you are on an internet forum where ppl will take the piss and wind you up. They may have those opinions, but i seriously doubt it. All i meant is that by responding the way you have you have made them worse. I am not suggesting you put up & shut up about racism, all i'm saying is look at where it is coming from, i.e. ilx, home of piss taking & wind ups.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Nooooo Rumpy, not the Rangers top, anything but that!

Actually, going by Dave's earlier comments on football, shouldn't we hate each other?

― smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Is High Fidelity the first (only?) rom-com aimed at blokes?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:01 (nineteen years ago) link

jesus christ get over it rumpy - you experience more "racism" (and this is a stupid word to use in this context - go for regional bigotry, instead) as an english person in scotland than you'll ever get as a scottish person anywhere else in the world.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Apparently.... two words - Rosary Beads. And on that note...

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Ew ew ew! You are so not haveing that as the last word. You know you should tell that story on here one time, I bet it'll be up there with the Cheese Fry story....

― smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:03 (nineteen years ago) link

These bleads?
x-post

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:03 (nineteen years ago) link

I can't say I've experienced any anti-English bigotry from being an English person in Scotland, but maybe I move in Anglophile circles. Oh, there was one bloke in a pub who laughed about hating me for being English, but I don't think he was serious. It's all talk.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:05 (nineteen years ago) link

as was that... i just love the double standard scots have about this stuff.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Scottish music is all shit. I mean what have we ever achieved apart from the Incredible String Band, Alex Harvey, John Martyn, Gerry Rafferty, the Average White Band, the Poets, the Buzz, Frankie Miller, early Simple Minds, Ivor Cutler, the Fire Engines, Orange Juice, Josef K, early Aztec Camera, the Cocteau Twins, the Associates, Mogwai, Arab Strap, the Jesus and Mary Chain, Primal Scream, the Scars, Positive Noise, Leisure Process, Win, Nectarine No 9, the Commotions element of Lloyd Cole and the Commotions, the Delgados, Brian Connolly, Teenage Fanclub, the Pastels, the Vaselines, Future Pilot AKA, Bobby Wellins, Bill Wells, Marmalade, Lulu and Franz Ferdinand? Eh?

OK, admittedly you might have a problem with Middle Of The Road or the Bay City Rollers...

― Jesus H. Clapton, Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:08 (nineteen years ago) link

See what you've done now Rumpy?! Forgive her ILX, she's new...

― smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:09 (nineteen years ago) link

uh, Capercailie.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:11 (nineteen years ago) link

wet wet wet

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:11 (nineteen years ago) link

RUNRIG

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:12 (nineteen years ago) link

and apologies for being rude - i'm in a bad mood this morning. you can do what a friend of mine did when he took me into his local in govan last year, took me round and introduced me to people saying: "this is dave, he's english but he's alright!" so as i didn't get chinned.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:13 (nineteen years ago) link

British people are funny.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Racist.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:14 (nineteen years ago) link

(cries)

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Scotland's still largely run by a government and fed by a media that's 500 miles away. I think that's the difference. It's usual for people in such a position will have some mild resentment. Making remarks the other way around 'to get your own back' just sounds crass. Basically, I think you misunderstand the 'too English' thing - I usually understand it as "Ach, I get enough of this culture as it is", not a "The English culture sucks per se."

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Big Celtic baby.

(xpost, although I kind of wish it wasn't)

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:15 (nineteen years ago) link

I reckon the SPL will be a two horse race next year.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Wow, N. is displaying Confucius like wisdom today…

― smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:18 (nineteen years ago) link

are those the only two possible readings of "it's too english"? couldn't it mean "i don't particularly care for products of enlish culture/it's not my thing/i'm not a fan" (which is far from equaling "english culture sucks")

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Scotland's still largely run by a government and fed by a media that's 500 miles away

we can also easily substitute "run" for "subsidised". rough with the smooth's what i say.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Wow -- this thread is not really about crap Hornby!

This debate seems to have happened before. More than once maybe.

N. is right about the quality of Romy & Michelle.

― the bluefox, Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Well OK, any of those things too - none are offensive in the way what Dave said back was.

Dave - can Scotland have the North Sea oil revenues, then?

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Dave, enough is enough, she's gone now, give it up.

― smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I reckon the SPL will be a two horse race next year

Yeah, Celtic and Dundee United (or Hearts).

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:23 (nineteen years ago) link

nick is soooo right about romy & michelle vs. grosse point blank.

xpost

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:23 (nineteen years ago) link

(Actually, it's worth pointing out that tuition fees and Section 28 were abolished in Scotland years ago and one of those looks set to never happen in England so you're not suffering under the jackboot of central government that much)

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:24 (nineteen years ago) link

I am now going to count to ten then leave this thread and never come back.

― smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:26 (nineteen years ago) link

as far as i'm concerned north sea oil is british.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:26 (nineteen years ago) link

like we all should be rather than concentrating on stupid english v shcots battles that don't bloody exist any more

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:27 (nineteen years ago) link

British people be feudin'!

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Wow -- this thread is not really about crap Hornby!

I'm with you, PF, I thought the board had decided to burn him in effigy, thus the 150 new posts.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:32 (nineteen years ago) link

I would walk 500 miles just to see the man and discuss the effectiveness of decentralised policy making

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:33 (nineteen years ago) link

... naked.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:33 (nineteen years ago) link

mikey is the g in your name short for genius or something?

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:40 (nineteen years ago) link

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39771000/jpg/_39771171_ramblerarrives203.jpg

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Looks like I gave my opinion on the movie 2.5 years ago.

This thread, today, however = classic.

I especially love the bit where Dave says his mum is anti-Scottish, but not he.

― Ally C (Ally C), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:45 (nineteen years ago) link

hello dad

x-post

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:46 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah i read over that again. my mum was scottish. should have made that clearer. she was not anti-scottish, either.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:57 (nineteen years ago) link

However, your aunty Scott was a different matter....

― Ally C (Ally C), Thursday, 29 April 2004 15:19 (nineteen years ago) link

i should like my final appearance on this ridiculous thread to be made in honour of deep-fried, battered confectionery and the inestimable talents of big country

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 18:01 (nineteen years ago) link

You do know that deep-fried mars bar thing was a joke someone made up that people down South fell for, right? (I think some chip shops then started actually doing them to try to cash in on the meme, but I can't say I've ever seen one).

Deep-fried pizza is real, though, I can't deny.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 18:54 (nineteen years ago) link

I liked it till my little brother told me John Cusack's character reminded him of me. I'll just be shooting myself now

― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Thursday, 29 April 2004 18:56 (nineteen years ago) link

the deep fried mars bar hoax has spread across the atlantic. there are at least 3 foofy "authentic" brit-style chip shops in new york that sell them.

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 29 April 2004 19:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh good grief.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 19:01 (nineteen years ago) link

My brother claims a shop here did deep fried cream eggs.

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 29 April 2004 19:02 (nineteen years ago) link

I must be insane, that sounds great.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Thursday, 29 April 2004 19:02 (nineteen years ago) link

the fair outside o'Seattle deep-fries various items in 'homage'

― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Thursday, 29 April 2004 19:04 (nineteen years ago) link

those chip shops also charge $4 a portion for heinz tomato soup. i suppose you have to pay your illegal australian staff somehow, though.

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 29 April 2004 19:06 (nineteen years ago) link

I am now physically ill. I've seen the deep fried pizzas slices, I did not need to be reminded of them. And this creme egg madness YOU DISGUSTING BASTARDS.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 29 April 2004 19:14 (nineteen years ago) link

I wish there were still some Cadbury creme eggs for sale so I could try this!

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Thursday, 29 April 2004 19:15 (nineteen years ago) link

The deep-fried creme eggs are only acceptable if they are served in ice cream cones.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 29 April 2004 19:15 (nineteen years ago) link

I realize this is as bad as Tep's Krispy Kreme burger, yes.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Thursday, 29 April 2004 19:15 (nineteen years ago) link

That should have been in an ice cream cone as well.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 29 April 2004 19:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Kerry OTM way upthread. This movie sucks so bad it makes me wonder how that could even be possible, given that Al Johnson and Ian Williams are in it.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 29 April 2004 19:30 (nineteen years ago) link

I should clarify my above post.

I DO NOT LIVE IN SCOTLAND. BUT ON A SEPARATE ISLAND.

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 29 April 2004 19:43 (nineteen years ago) link

I damn near hurled the book at the wall and the movie makes me hurl even more. Guys who make a cultural career out of complaining and whining about their exes are dud dud dud.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 29 April 2004 19:50 (nineteen years ago) link

The only thing that's even more dud than the High Fidelity franchise are people who feel compelled to ask "have you seen High Fidelity?" once they learn that I have more than ten records.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 29 April 2004 19:52 (nineteen years ago) link

http://monkeydyne.com/rmcs/opencomic.phtml?rowid=55849

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 29 April 2004 20:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I liked it till my little brother told me John Cusack's character reminded him of me. I'll just be shooting myself now

Count your blessings, Donna. Someone told me Jack Black's character reminded them of me.

― martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 29 April 2004 20:08 (nineteen years ago) link

I've been told a scary number of times "hey you're like that guy in High Fidelity", which pisses me off. by "that guy" they always say I'm half like John Cusack, half like Todd Louiso. Fortunately I'm not at all like Jack Black.

― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 29 April 2004 20:10 (nineteen years ago) link

xpost oh, snap, Martin. That hurtz

― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Thursday, 29 April 2004 20:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Actually, I understand the Jack Black comparison to me, and in some ways it is accurate... Still disconcerting though.

― martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 29 April 2004 20:12 (nineteen years ago) link

he's shorter than you.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 29 April 2004 20:12 (nineteen years ago) link

I think he's a bit heavier than I am too, and he has more hair. I think the bits where the comparison is accurate have more to do with "annoyance or vulgarity as humor" than with physical appearance.

― martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 29 April 2004 20:25 (nineteen years ago) link

"upper decking" f'rinstance :)

― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Thursday, 29 April 2004 20:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes.

― martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 29 April 2004 20:34 (nineteen years ago) link

i saw deep fried mars bars in glasgow. it's a very bad idea anyway. big country were not a joke.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 30 April 2004 09:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I thought that was Eric B & Rakim!

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 30 April 2004 10:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Scotland might have its faults but I've never met a more unpleasant, up their own arse, blind to the rest of the country, unpleasant gits as those that reside in "Lahn-dan".

― CRW (CRW), Saturday, 1 May 2004 23:08 (nineteen years ago) link

I make it my ultimate goal to never see this movie.

― Serya (Z_Ayres), Sunday, 2 May 2004 01:24 (nineteen years ago) link

This thread is like the most retarded thing on ILX ever, it's great.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Sunday, 2 May 2004 06:53 (nineteen years ago) link

pricks.

― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 2 May 2004 07:05 (nineteen years ago) link

godam. if i hadn't just gone vegan, i would have suggested my favourite takeaway start doing deep fried creme eggs. they sound quite heavenly.

― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Sunday, 2 May 2004 08:02 (nineteen years ago) link

1) curmudgeonly dudes name-checking obscure musicians: CHECK
2) raging lunatics whose insecurities prevent them from getting along like normal well-adjusted people: CHECK
3) a pleasant (though agressively hip) soundtrack: depends on you, but in my case CHECK

(of course i'm talking about this thread, not some stupid film)

― Dave M. (rotten03), Monday, 3 May 2004 03:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Um, Anyway... I really liked High Fidelity. Also, I live only a couple of blocks away from where the record store was supposed to be (in Chicago), so it's cool to walk around that corner and pretend I'm going to Championship Vinyl. Also, John C. is my back up.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 3 May 2004 15:18 (nineteen years ago) link

I need a Mars Bar
Hey raid the Spa
To help me through the day
I need a Mars Bar
I've had total fun
It helps me - makes me - work rest and play
It helps me - makes me - work rest and play

I never eat my dinner
I push away the plate
You can see I'm getting thinner
Because I just can't wait

To get my Mars Bar
Hey raid the Spar ...

To Patrick Moore and David Bowie
And all the other stars
There's evidence here to show
That there's life on Mars

I need a ...

There's glucose for energy
Caramel for strength
The chocolate's only there
To keep it the right length

I need a ...

To anybody out there who still eats Twix ?
Anybody on packets of Buttons ?
I gave them up when I was six
I hope your teeth are rotten

I need a ...

Work - rest and play

― J (Jay), Monday, 3 May 2004 15:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, John C. is my back up.

For a second, I thought you meant me!!!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 3 May 2004 20:05 (nineteen years ago) link

You're her back-up dancer. Like a Fly Girl.

― NA (Nick A.), Monday, 3 May 2004 20:25 (nineteen years ago) link

you blithering moron it's set in chicago or somewhere and has an entirely american cast

Just a blitheringly pedantic point, Cusack's Trixie girlfriend in the film is in fact Danish. And then there's Catharine Zeta-Jones in her very minor role, and she's "Welsh," whatever she means by that.

The only thing I remember from my one viewing is the minor character who interviews Cusack for the reader, and how I thought, shit, that's a hot hipster girl who looks like Natalie Wood, and sure enough, when I look at the credits and check out her name on the galactic interweb, the actress is Natalie's daughter.

― Dickerson Pike (Dickerson Pike), Monday, 3 May 2004 20:52 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Soon to be a stage musical, coming to Boston and Broadway...

http://www.playbill.com/news/article/99267.html

Once again, I expect the actor playing Rob will be way too goodlooking.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 22:25 (eighteen years ago) link

My mom always is like "YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS ARE RIGHT OUT OF HIGH FIDELITY". GAH

― JW (ex machina), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 22:33 (eighteen years ago) link

haha i had a dude say that to me when i was being interviewed for a big time jobby

― city of gyros (chaki), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 22:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Ian = Lisa Bonet, right?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 22:34 (eighteen years ago) link

are you the skate punks who sound like royal trux?

xpost

― electric sound of jim (and why not) (electricsound), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 22:34 (eighteen years ago) link

DEAN GULB3RRY WAS IN OLD SKU77

― JW (ex machina), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 22:38 (eighteen years ago) link

read the book. think i've seen the film. didn't mind them but a bit forgettable. a lot of truth, a lot of untruths.

― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 22:39 (eighteen years ago) link

truth: record store clerks can be dicks

untruth: record store clerks who listen to a lot of doug yule velvet underground and hallucinate conversations w/bruce springsteen rarely get tail from rich hot lawyer chicks who bankroll their record obsessions

― gear (gear), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 22:42 (eighteen years ago) link

he met her as a dj

― kephm (kephm), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 22:56 (eighteen years ago) link

there is no fucking way green day sound like the clash or stiff little fingers

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 23:50 (eighteen years ago) link

there is no fucking way nick hornby is a writer so that's okay

― Ricky Nadir (noodle vague), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 00:02 (seventeen years ago) link

is that originally in the book ?

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 00:05 (seventeen years ago) link

It's in the copy in the library that I defaced.

― Ricky Nadir (noodle vague), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 00:06 (seventeen years ago) link

i did like the detail about how ultra snob rob's musical defenses fell when confronted with lisa bonet's meek, spineless cover of "baby i love your way"

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 00:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Nicely done. (x-post)

The only thing that's even more dud than the High Fidelity franchise are people who feel compelled to ask "have you seen High Fidelity?" once they learn that I have more than ten records.

Ain't that the fuckin' truth.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 00:10 (seventeen years ago) link

-Don't you want to see the rest of the movie?
-I don't have to see it, Dottie. I lived it.

― paul reubens, Wednesday, 26 April 2006 03:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Hahahhahhahaha.

― Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 05:00 (seventeen years ago) link

jesus christ people. your long neglected and often abused subculture finally gets big-screen hollywood treatment, with john cusack playing you, and you still whine about it? c'mon high fidelity is to record geeks as top gun is to fighter pilots: simplistic heroic mythology. enjoy your myth, chrissakes.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 05:05 (seventeen years ago) link

my favorite movie record geek is still daniel stern in diner. his fight with ellen barkin is so great. "you never ask me what the b-side is!"

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 05:09 (seventeen years ago) link

what about Buscemi in Ghost World?

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Buscemi and Cusak don't blog

― JW (ex machina), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost
Max Von Sydow in Hannah and her Sisters.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Buscemi and Cusak don't blog

true, the blogger top gun has yet to come. but it will.

buscemi's fine, but he's a little too laid back. he doesn't seem really obsessive, which cusack doesn't either but daniel stern does.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Book: classic
Film: classic
Track: CLASSIC

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 22:54 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

my favorite movie record geek is still daniel stern in diner. his fight with ellen barkin is so great. "you never ask me what the b-side is!"
"Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey!"

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 31 January 2008 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Put simply, Cusack rocks in *everything* - how could you possibly be a doubter?

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 31 January 2008 22:11 (sixteen years ago) link

first saw in theater - that was really good, funny, bittersweet
see now on cable - he is so pathetic, sad, kind of a dick, WTF worst marriage proposal ever

― dmr, Thursday, 31 January 2008 22:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Grifters: C er D?

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 31 January 2008 23:43 (sixteen years ago) link

This movie made me way fucking self-conscious about my underwear choices. I never knew men had these judgements of women's underwear!

― Abbott, Thursday, 31 January 2008 23:44 (sixteen years ago) link

This movie was boring and irritating and full of jerks by the way! If there was one excellent thing about Juno, it is that it shows these type of mangs to just be frustrating as hell, and crepey!

― Abbott, Thursday, 31 January 2008 23:46 (sixteen years ago) link

That said, right now if a dude my age told me he was way into the Doobie Brothers, I would kind of swoon.

― Abbott, Thursday, 31 January 2008 23:46 (sixteen years ago) link

see now on cable - he is so pathetic, sad, kind of a dick, WTF worst marriage proposal ever

-- dmr, Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:31 PM

Totally, but I think giving him all those flaws makes him more relatable and more real (maybe just to commitment-phobic record geeks like myself?).

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 31 January 2008 23:52 (sixteen years ago) link

ten years pass...

lol

Hmm -
Why should I say it when the character does - literally - looking straight into the camera ? Millinials can’t be that dumb :) https://t.co/gizPBpM6nu
— John Cusack (@johncusack) August 7, 2018

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 01:08 (five years ago) link

Bless us

― faculty w1fe (silby), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 01:21 (five years ago) link

lol

― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 01:41 (five years ago) link

Fuck twitter confuses me. To what was Hoos referring with his "get John Cusack to say the same" ref there? That comment seems to have to hop across 3 or 4 seperate conversations.

― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 01:48 (five years ago) link

click thru

basically that HiFi Rob is a self-absorbed twit

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 02:00 (five years ago) link

Yeah, but Cusak is right. It’s obvious in the movie, so it would be pointless for him to have to say it.

― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 02:18 (five years ago) link

damn hoos got pwned

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 02:27 (five years ago) link

One key shot in the movie is the final one involving Lili Taylor

― omar little, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 02:28 (five years ago) link

yo is it true hoos got sonned by a Cusack after a movie beef?

― 16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 02:42 (five years ago) link

My boy john

Yet every other ilxor rants about what a misogynist rob was

🙄

― F# A# (∞), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 03:42 (five years ago) link

i was unaware there's a TV series planned, w/ a female lead

https://www.indiewire.com/2018/04/john-cusack-high-fidelity-remake-1201950107/

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 11:47 (five years ago) link

heres hoping its as good as ghostbusters!

― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 12:59 (five years ago) link

Ghostbusters is a classic bro

― F# A# (∞), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 13:41 (five years ago) link

classic moneymaking elephantine crap

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 13:55 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/high-fidelity-zoe-kravitz-hulu-930069/

― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 20 December 2019 23:03 (four years ago) link

how do you write that article and not even acknowledge that zoe kravitz’s mother was in the first screen adaptation of high fidelity

― i chop up the orange and chomp on the inside of it (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 20 December 2019 23:28 (four years ago) link

I'm assuming they didn't even bother to read the Wikipedia

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 21 December 2019 00:04 (four years ago) link

The lack of anyone in the record store who looks like Moby is promising

― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 21 December 2019 00:10 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

How she can afford to pay herself and her two employees while keeping that store open and making rent on a pretty spacious place in Crown Heights or some shit is the true magic of this show.

― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 16:19 (four years ago) link

TV logic i spose

― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 16:19 (four years ago) link

if it's Brooklyn obv she's a trust funder eg Lenny Kravitz's daughter

― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 16:20 (four years ago) link

Can’t wait for the Christmas episode where he comes to visit then!

― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 16:34 (four years ago) link

lol at listening to vinyl in order to make you playlists on spotify

― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 19:24 (four years ago) link

huh how's that work?

morbidly curious about this show

― maffew12, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 19:56 (four years ago) link

sorry I was referring to the scene taken from the original book/movie where Rob is playing records to go on his mixtape and agonizing over the rules of song selection and sequencing but in this show everything is the same up until she just ends up making a fucking spotify playlist out of it all.

this show was a bad idea

― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 20:45 (four years ago) link

am i imagining it that I read the store premise is that she inherited the space?

― Yerac, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 20:52 (four years ago) link

i used to work in a record shop in williamsburg. It was so chill on weekdays that I usually opened and closed by myself, just listening to music and processing orders/deliveries. We would just take our pay in cash at the end of each shift. I would totally have worked there forever if the owner hadn't sucked.

― Yerac, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 21:01 (four years ago) link

"this show was a bad idea"

it's completely unnecessary but I watched the whole thing and it got better as it went on and reminded me less of the original book and movie. It's passable weekend binge subscription TV fare.

― akm, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 21:35 (four years ago) link

Rob's not enough of an asshole in the TV show, the writers didn't seem to recognize that the relationship was a McGuffin and it was about contronting in middle age that you're an enormous piece of shit.

― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 23:47 (four years ago) link

really don't get the impression that the movie knows how much of a prick rob is.

― frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 00:13 (four years ago) link

like definitely it knows he's a bit of a fucking dolt and needs to grow up, but he's still our cool hero also

― frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 00:14 (four years ago) link

He’s definitely portrayed as sympathetic. Straw Dogs it is not

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 01:38 (four years ago) link

dolts can be heroes

eg, Bowie

― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 01:41 (four years ago) link

I've watched the first two episode and it's still just as cringe-worthy as the movie. Maybe I'm too old for this kind of thing.

― Darin, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 01:51 (four years ago) link

looks like the book and film maaaay have touched a nerve

― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 01:56 (four years ago) link

i just watched the trailer for the movie and the tv show. The tv show looks must better. I haven't seen the movie since it first came out but I recall the only sympathetic thing about it was that they cast John Cusack in 2000.

― Yerac, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 02:24 (four years ago) link

Jake Lacy is really making a career out of playing "a guy you date(d)".

― Yerac, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 02:29 (four years ago) link

i finished the first episode. This is totally fine! it's weird that this is kind of the first thing zoe kravitz has really starred in?

― Yerac, Saturday, 22 February 2020 07:29 (four years ago) link

Last two episodes were rushed and weird.

― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 22 February 2020 09:23 (four years ago) link

I just double checked how old Rob is supposed to be in the book. 35?

― Yerac, Saturday, 22 February 2020 09:33 (four years ago) link

halfway through, this is so much better than the movie (or rather my memory of the movie).

― Yerac, Monday, 24 February 2020 08:35 (four years ago) link

low bar

― lukas, Monday, 24 February 2020 21:18 (four years ago) link

i hope they pay homage to the ""i will now sell 5 copies of the 3 eps by the beta band" scene.

― frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Monday, 24 February 2020 21:22 (four years ago) link

"I will now tweet about adding tracks to the store's Spotify playlist"

― Οὖτις, Monday, 24 February 2020 21:23 (four years ago) link

I think there were two homages to the Beta Band thing

― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 24 February 2020 23:25 (four years ago) link

!!!

― frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Monday, 24 February 2020 23:26 (four years ago) link

Finished. This was totally good. The casting, the styling, the moments.

― Yerac, Thursday, 27 February 2020 07:30 (four years ago) link

six months pass...

weird i heard this was terrible

― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, 13 September 2020 05:40 (three years ago) link

Terrible is strong but it was not good.

― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Sunday, 13 September 2020 06:48 (three years ago) link

considering the lack of acting prowess among the major players, it somehow elevated itself to adequacy.

― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Sunday, 13 September 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link

at the moment I'd be happy if Peter Bradshaw was replaced by Aimless!

― calzino, Sunday, 13 September 2020 19:20 (three years ago) link

I just watched the Other Music documentary last weekend, don’t know if I can watch something like this.

― ABBA O RLY? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 13 September 2020 19:38 (three years ago) link

there's an Other Music doc? how was it?

― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 14 September 2020 16:12 (three years ago) link

Did you shop at Other Music?

― ABBA O RLY? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 14 September 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link

Yep

― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 14 September 2020 18:07 (three years ago) link

Then you should definitely watch it.
http://www.othermusicdocumentary.com/

― ABBA O RLY? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 14 September 2020 18:12 (three years ago) link

Best thing about it is, most of it takes place inside the store. Other good thing is that any well-known people that are interviewed were all regular customers.

― ABBA O RLY? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 14 September 2020 18:14 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

Finally saw this last night. I kinda avoided it as I too read the book and kinda tossed it down as I thought in the end the main character was a such dick. While I liked the music nods, I never checked out the movie.

The love story is still pretty much nerd fantasy land, but the scenes in the store and the nods to 90s Chicago was pretty fun. And the Cusacks are always fun to see act together.

Now that it 20 years on, I did think Tim Robbins character was really hilarious and kinda caught something in some hipsters of that era well. They should have somehow had a scene where it crawled across his shelves and you could see his CD collection. You know that dude would have some Rusted Root.

― earlnash, Saturday, 5 December 2020 01:09 (three years ago) link

I haven’t seen this in several years, but seeing it as a teenager vs. seeing it mid 20’s vs. seeing it at 30 was an interesting evolution in perspective. It still remained good in my eyes but for different reasons along the course. I’m roughly the age of Cusack in the film now. Hesitant to revisit.

― circa1916, Saturday, 5 December 2020 02:29 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZjIgH7E0_8

― Apollo and the Aqueducts (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 20 May 2022 22:00 (one year ago) link

John Cusack was extremely well cast in this film. He is the most believable character by a long way.

― everything, Saturday, 21 May 2022 01:24 (one year ago) link

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