Bloomberg: What the hell is his problem?

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So I'm watching the news and see this one ad, the anti-smoking ad, for the millionth time. It's got all these cute bubbly waitresses going around, talking about how they promise they won't fuck up your order if you don't smoke in their restaurant and you agree with the smoking ban. A referendum which is not up for popular vote, I add.

This ad has been bookended by stories about the MTA strike (non-NYers: our public transit is all threatening to go on strike starting this weekend if they don't get raises) and a story about how they're going to shut down firehouses in the city because there is no money.

That ad is paid for by the government. As is all the tourism ads that seem to be exclusively shown in NY state.

So we have money for that but not for firehouses and public transit? What the hell?

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 03:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

what do you expect for electing a greedy rich boy to office.

Mike Hanle y (mike), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 03:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

I didn't vote for him! He's obviously insane!

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 03:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

From what I have read about Bloomberg, smoking seems like his personal vendetta. He's an ex-smoker, and they are usually the ones who get so annoyingly evangelistic about the evils of smoking. He should do it on his own dime if he's that obsessed with it.

Still, they can't be as repulsive and off-putting as "The Truth" ads -- they usually make me want to take up smoking for a minute or so, if those are the kind of self-righteous assholes who are that upset by smoking.

Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 04:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

WHat was the deal with Gulianni anyways? Was he good? I heard he reduced crime, and of course he was sainted during the post 9-11 days, but what else did he do? I dont say that criticizingly, I really dont know much about his term.

Mike Hanle y (mike), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 04:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

He wore women's clothing.

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 04:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

Did he hang around in bars?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 04:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

He stood next to Joe Torre

James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 04:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

They just passed a smoking ban in Florida this election. All restaurants and bars except for 'stand up only, no food bars' are required to remove their smoking sections. I understand the reasoning behind it, but doesn't it seem a bit overbearing? I mean, it's anyone's choice to smoke, right? And then you get the "I have asthma and smoking in restaurants is bad for my lungs" commercials...well no shit...go to another restaurant..i mean I'm sorry you can't breathe and everything, but go somewhere else....if you don't liek it here, nobody's keeping you here...just like nobody's telling me I have to smoke...

B, Tuesday, 10 December 2002 04:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh god, I had completely forgotten about Giuliani in drag.

rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 05:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

b - staff can't really go elsewhere.

minna (minna), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 05:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

Why not? The Union say they have to work there?

B, Tuesday, 10 December 2002 05:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

finding a new job is much harder than going outside for a cigarette!

minna (minna), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 05:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

I hate non-smokers. Anybody who's that anal about wanting to increase their life expectancy is just being narcissistic.

dave q, Tuesday, 10 December 2002 06:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

kick that bum Bloomberg out NOW!

Paul (scifisoul), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 17:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

Listen, I personally don't have issue with banning smoking in restaurants (it seems most already have anyhow?) and even those dodgy bar/restaurants you see so much in the city (and at Red Lobster) - but a regular no holds barred bar or club? Surely when you apply for a job there you no what you're getting into? It's like being an AA member in recovery and then becoming a bartender and being pissed at serving alcohol.

For what it's worth, most barmaids I know don't support the potential bars-included ban in NYC, because more customers nipping outside for a smoke = less customers inside tipping the barmaids.

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 06:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

I must say, I really really really don't like smoking (I've never done it myself for a reason) but, uh, isn't that why bars were invented? So you could go out and smoke and drink and be bad until 9 in the morning? Hello!

M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 06:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

also, Bloomberg is a fucking scumbag for his recycling-suspension alone; for this he oughta be flogged (and I'm anti-smoking!)

M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 06:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

What about farting in restaurants? Its about time something was done. or "loudtalking".

Mike Hanle y (mike), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 06:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't smoke either, and i don't particularly liek being around it, but a government ban as opposed to an individual restaurant decision is too impeding in my opinion.

B, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 06:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

local governments can most definitely regulate (or ban outright) cigarette smoking ... it's a longstanding constitutional law doctrine that states and municipalities are free to regulate for the "health, safety, and welfare" of those under their jurisdiction unless such regulation violates some fundamental right. and i don't think anyone would get very far in any court by claiming that banning cigarette smoking in restaurants is an unconstitutional violation of a fundamental right.

(not saying that i like this regulation myself ... since i smoke like a chimney ... but it's probably constitutional)

Tadeusz Dershowitz, Esq. (llamasfur), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 06:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

i should have said "regulate (or ban outright) cigarette smoking in public places and probably restaurants."

but hey, i was too stupid to go to Columbia Law or Harvard Law, so cut me some slack ;-p

Tad (llamasfur), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 06:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think that because a restaurant is a private institution esentially, it does violate a fundamental right of that establishment by regulating it's policies within. A police officer can't declare fault, or even respond in some cases, to an accident on private property....why should another function of that same government be able to regulatethe practices onthat same property?

B, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 06:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

states and municipalities already do regulate policies within restaurants and other private institutions -- through fire codes, environmental codes, health and safety violations, etc. and there are different legal standards governing how the police can constitutionally enter one's private property and how health and safety inspectors can enter one's private property (even in this Rehnquist Court world).

Tad (llamasfur), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 07:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh Iknow, but where do they draw the line? Regulating building and fire codes ensures the safety of those around, which is just as well...but smoking only concerns those inside, which I believe is over the line...if we allow smoking to fall under the same categories as fire and building codes, then it could also be regulated in a personal dwelling...

B, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 07:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

(Giuliani getting credit for lowering crime rates is suspect: The city was in a serious economic boom, thus lots of jobs = no crime, fewer homeless, etc., etc. Obviously post 9-11 he was breathtaking... This will sound corny, but I felt much calmer after watching his press conferences in that wood-paneled room... But overall he's still a suckah!)

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 16:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yeah, but he was a suckah with a personality, which gets you a long way. Bloomberg has no personality besides strangely paperesque. And obv. insane.

I mean obviously being a song and dance fancy boy like Giuliani doesn't mean you're going to be a good mayor at all but it certainly is more entertaining.

i got the flu.

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

Bloomberg is also 5'2" or something. I've met him twice (when I say met I mean he shook my hand for whatever reason) and he is astonishingly short. Who knows how many Manhattan phonebooks he's standing on behind those podiums.

Most uncomfortable Bloomie moment: When the NFL had the season kickoff party in Times Square and Bloomie went out to the drunk crowd, who had just been grooving to Bon Jovi, to rile them up more. He was stiffer than [penis joke] in a [penis joke]!

(I'm sick too. My girlfriend's got it way bad, though.)

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

don't you all go and forget "Sensation" that stank.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

Giuliani had an extremely confrontational and dictatorial style that works well with people in the Police Dept but doesn't work so well in the spaghetti of city agencies and constituencies that any NY mayor has to placate and deal with on a weekly basis. He refused to play ball unless there was something in it for him (i.e. demonstrable votes or other more immediate civic powers). He would just announce things, bypassing consultations with groups that traditionally were included in policy discussions.

From what I hear Bloomberg's not nearly as confrontational and abrasive but he's actually worse about including people - poss due to his experience as CEO, where you don't generally poll the janitors or whatever before making a big change. At least with Giuliani you knew where you stood - in the rain, usually, getting beaten by cops.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 21:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

Manon Lescault has got the flu!

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 21:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

Pardon me, that's "Lescaut."

des grieux (nabisco), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 21:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

Other Giuliani achievements: fining clubs for allowing patrons to dance and promising to prosecute people who set off firecrackers on Chinese New Year

I think it's safe to say that the man hates fun

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 21:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

Giuliani had an extremely confrontational and dictatorial style that works well with people in the Police Dept but doesn't work so well in the spaghetti of city agencies and constituencies that any NY mayor has to placate and deal with on a weekly basis. He refused to play ball unless there was something in it for him (i.e. demonstrable votes or other more immediate civic powers). He would just announce things, bypassing consultations with groups that traditionally were included in policy discussions.

= GREATEST MAYOR EVER IN HISTORY! I never thought of him that way but that's exactly how I'd do things to, I'd be all like, fuck you all, I don't care what you gotta say, I pity the fool who thinks I care what you gotta say, then I'd be all doing things.

Except I wouldn't ban dancing, that's silly. The man can't hate fun though - the drag!

Manon Lescaut is officially a book for assholes, stop talking about it.

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 23:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...
I'm a fan of Bloomberg. Why? 311 was a good idea. He's Laissez Faire. And I support the banning of car alarms and the ticketing for noisy dogs.

Ghostface Threadkillah (calstars), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 02:31 (nineteen years ago) link

if ally were mayor, she'd be a female giuliani. would she dress up as a dude on saturday night live, though?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 02:39 (nineteen years ago) link

I would immediately enact a law against me doing or saying anything while having the flu.

Allyzay, Wednesday, 16 June 2004 02:41 (nineteen years ago) link

made-up quotes attributed to john stuart mill (shit, throw in david hume too!) would be carved onto city hall's walls.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 02:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I was half-expecting this revive to be courtesy of the Pinefox.

Leeefuse 73 (Leee), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 05:11 (nineteen years ago) link

there's something about bloomberg i actually like. perhaps his lack of "folksiness"--a disease that seems to plague all politicians these days, whether they come to it naturally or at the urgings of consultants.

what is manon lescaut?

amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 05:33 (nineteen years ago) link

A reference to Ally's email address. It is also a novel and an opera.

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 11:32 (nineteen years ago) link

I 'm with amateur!st -- I sorta like that Bloomberg doesn't mind taking a few shots to get what he wants to do done. Whether you like his smoking ban, recycling cutbacks (restored), tax increases (rolled back), etc. or not, at least he's had the political will to see them through. He's had a tough act to follow, picking up where the deified Giuliani left off, and I think he's been smart not to try to fill those shoes.

rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 13:19 (nineteen years ago) link

311 was a good idea.

yeah, altho he didn't think of it. Chicago had a 311 line at least 2 years before NYC.

Bloomberg sucks because he hates ice cream and puppies.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 13:25 (nineteen years ago) link

four years pass...

http://i36.tinypic.com/91f9di.jpg

\\\\\\\\YES//////// (ice crӕm), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 18:55 (fifteen years ago) link

http://img5.allocine.fr/acmedia/medias/nmedia/18/35/92/68/18450207.jpg

Mackro Mackro, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 19:12 (fifteen years ago) link

not saying i'll vote for him (not saying i won't either), but term limits suck

gabbneb, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 20:24 (fifteen years ago) link

yah theyre completely undemocratic

\\\\\\\\YES//////// (ice crӕm), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 20:25 (fifteen years ago) link

if i didn't think so, i might have more of a problem with his making a push as a sitting mayor in a 'crisis' context

gabbneb, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 20:25 (fifteen years ago) link

would i feel the same if we still had giuliani? uhhh.

gabbneb, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 20:27 (fifteen years ago) link

yes, term limits suck, and yes, Reagan's corpse wd still be prez if we didnt have em.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 20:27 (fifteen years ago) link

^^only if the 22nd Amendment allowed for zombie presidents instead of imposing a term limit Morbs

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 20:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Tom Bradley was mayor of L.A. for about 734 years, and even though I didn't dislike him as mayor, there's this "too settled" thing about not having term limits that tends to rot after a while, whether you like the mayor or not.

Mackro Mackro, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 20:29 (fifteen years ago) link

In the United States, term limits on executives are absurd. Bloomberg has been an excellent technocrat for a city that was in desperate need for one. Hopefully he’ll win a third term and create even a larger precedent for future mayor’s.

Allen, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 20:30 (fifteen years ago) link

hey, that was kinda funny, morbs

gabbneb, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 20:30 (fifteen years ago) link

if we hadn't had term limits, we might not have gotten bloomie in the first place

gabbneb, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 20:32 (fifteen years ago) link

term limits alternate between seeming like a good idea and like a bad idea every 8 years or so.

Everything is Highlighted (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 04:02 (fifteen years ago) link

i have always thought term limits were a bad idea, even if i am thankful that they foreclosed the theoretical possibility of another Giuliani or Bush term

gabbneb, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 04:08 (fifteen years ago) link

petition vs the City Council overruling the vote on NYC term limits, if that's your view:

http://www.ItsOurDecision.org

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 16:31 (fifteen years ago) link

not my view

gabbneb, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 16:32 (fifteen years ago) link

we knew.

Let's have the fucking anti-free speech billionaire stay cuz there's a "crisis" caused by his breed.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 16:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Cheistine Quinn:

http://www.movieactors.com/freezeframes5/blazingsad31.jpeg

"We've gotta protect our phony baloney jobs, gentlemen!"

Dr Morbius, Monday, 13 October 2008 13:01 (fifteen years ago) link

there's a "crisis" caused by his breed

Bloomberg hasn't been a banker since 1981, and I don't believe he's ever been involved with mortgage-backed securities. He ran a technology and media company, and for the last dozen years, he's also operated one of the largest philanthropies in the country.

gabbneb, Monday, 13 October 2008 13:09 (fifteen years ago) link

^in the tank for Masters of the Universe

(God bless the smoking ban, tho)

Dr Morbius, Monday, 13 October 2008 13:13 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm just stating facts. I do think that Bloomberg might be the right guy to deal with a struggling economy the transition from a NY funded by Wall St, or maybe he won't be - let's see who runs and what they propose. I am quite certain that Christopher Brodeur, for instance, like Sarah Palin is very much the wrong guy, at any time.

gabbneb, Monday, 13 October 2008 13:18 (fifteen years ago) link

The idea of Sarah Palin as a guy disturbs me.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 October 2008 13:56 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe locking up anyone who engages in protest against Wall St w/out a charge for 72 hours will be the plan.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 13 October 2008 14:01 (fifteen years ago) link

so the CC votes tomorrow. Love those Bloomie gritted-teeth responses to questions about anyone who would dare impede his coup d'etat...

Mugabe? OK, it's an outrageous comparison. Forgive me. Mike Bloomberg would never shut down newspapers or use brutal thugs against dissenters in order to hold onto power. He doesn't have to. He buys them....

http://www.villagevoice.com/2008-10-22/columns/michael-bloomberg-s-velvet-coup/

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 19:30 (fifteen years ago) link

ok, I vote No on Bloomberg here

gabbneb, Thursday, 23 October 2008 07:15 (fifteen years ago) link

by Sewell Chan and Jonathan P. Hicks

After a spirited, emotional and at times raucous debate, the City Council voted, 29 to 22, on Thursday afternoon to extend term limits, allow Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg to seek re-election next year and undo the result of two voter referendums that had imposed a limit of two four-year terms. (Please refresh this post for latest updates.)

The vote was a major victory for Mayor Bloomberg — a billionaire and lifelong Democrat who was elected mayor as a Republican in 2001, won re-election in 2005 and decided just weeks ago that he wished to seek a third term in 2009 — and for the Council’s speaker, Christine C. Quinn, but the intense acrimony surrounding the decision could come at great cost.

After Public Advocate Betsy Gotbaum, who presides over the Council, announced the final result, the balcony erupted in shouts of “The city’s for sale!” and “Shame on you!”

Earlier, at 3:22 p.m. the Council rejected, 28 to 22, a key amendment that would have called for a public referendum on term limits by summoning a Charter Revision Commission, which would schedule a special election. One member, James Sanders Jr. of Queens, abstained on the amendment. (See the end of this article for the full roll call.)

Opponents of the bill to extend term limits without a public vote crowded the balcony of the Council chamber. As Ms. Gotbaum announced the final vote count on the amendment, groans erupted from the balcony, which was packed with members of the public opposed to extending term limits without a public vote. The Council immediately turned its attention to the main bill, which would extend the limit to three terms from two.

Councilman Bill de Blasio of Brooklyn, who supported the amendment, warned his colleagues that the Council’s legitimacy would be forever tarnished.

“The people of the city will long remember what we have done here today, and the people will be unforgiving,” Mr. de Blasio said. “We are stealing like a thief in the night their right to shape our democracy.”

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 23 October 2008 20:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I bet Rudy is pissed.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Thursday, 23 October 2008 21:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I know I am.

Casuistry, Thursday, 23 October 2008 22:32 (fifteen years ago) link

The Inside City Hall host on NY1 (the Time Warner local news cable outlet), Dominic Carter -- who've I've generally found to be a reliable softball tosser (he has to treat Ed Koch and Al D'Amato as serious analysts, for one thing) -- was practically laughing in the face of City Council members who voted for this thing and claimed it didn't smell.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 24 October 2008 16:58 (fifteen years ago) link

four months pass...

well, anti-corporate comedian Rev. Billy -- who I've never found all that funny -- has the Green nomination for mayor. I wonder if any non-comedians will challenge Emperor Mike.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/02/nyregion/02billy.html

Dr Morbius, Monday, 2 March 2009 21:10 (fifteen years ago) link

The strongest candidate to face Bloomberg will be a guy with the last name that is a homophone with 1) a slang term for being an emasculated, inffectual loser and 2) gradeschool term for penis.

burt_stanton, Monday, 2 March 2009 21:28 (fifteen years ago) link

gabbs loves the weiner-schnitzel, so be warned.

LOLBJ (Eisbaer), Monday, 2 March 2009 21:34 (fifteen years ago) link

forewarned is forearmed, as it were ...

LOLBJ (Eisbaer), Monday, 2 March 2009 21:34 (fifteen years ago) link

ugh, Son of Chucky

Dr Morbius, Monday, 2 March 2009 21:46 (fifteen years ago) link

sorry, burt!

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/03/12/1833617.aspx

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 12 March 2009 15:38 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

yay, Weinerdick definitely out.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link

four months pass...

At least Green Party candidate Billy Talen heckled the Mayor from the audience: "What are you doing here, Mike? We voted for term limits!" In a statement Rev. Billy said, "The missing voice tonight was the voice of New York City's neighborhoods, which Bloomberg and the Democrats have victimized in their lust for the bubble-based economies of tourism, chain stores and Wall Street..."

No one gives a shit.

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2009/10/bloomberg-thomp.php

Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

You all know what to do.

Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 13:38 (fourteen years ago) link

"Marjorie Shea, a retired high school teacher, said the spending was "overkill" but she voted for him anyway, saying his wealth and businessman's mind makes him an independent thinker."

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link

you suck, New York, New York

Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 22:28 (fourteen years ago) link

hold on! NBC News called Bloomie the winner -- and has now RETRACTED that!

Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 03:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Looks like a 4-pt win for the emperor. $110 million well spent.

Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 03:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Bloomberg won by 50,342 votes, out of 1.1 million cast. That averages out to 8.24 people at each of the city's 6,110 election districts. So if you're the biggest Thompson supporter in your ED, just imagine if you could have dragged your nine laziest friends out to vote. And if you're the biggest Bloomberg supporter in your ED, all those handwritten letters to your neighbors and the sign in your window may have really made the difference. Seriously.
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/brawlforthehall/2009/11/bloomberg-and-thompson-by-the.html

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 09:32 (fourteen years ago) link

It's a pity all my friends live in other election districts.

Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 13:34 (fourteen years ago) link

dont blame me i voted in the nj election

Bobby Wo (max), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 13:51 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Join Housing Works World AIDS Day "Schmear Campaign" Against Mayor Bloomberg!

Every World AIDS Day, December 1, Mayor Bloomberg hosts a World AIDS Day "Bagel Breakfast" at Gracie Mansion where he professes his commitment to ending the AIDS epidemic -- and every January, he proposes a budget that includes devastating cuts to services for homeless New Yorkers living with HIV/AIDS, as well as other critical social services.

This year, the bagels are boycotting breakfast.

To expose Bloomberg's hypocrisy and bring an end to his attacks on chronically ill homeless New Yorkers, Housing Worksâ staff and clients will be dressing up as giant bagels (sesame, poppy seed, everything, onion, blueberry!) and protesting outside of Gracie Mansion on World AIDS Day, December 1. And, possibly for the first time in human history, bagels will engage in civil disobedience. In other words, its a schmear campaign!

In order for this unprecedented foray into baked-good political action to succeed, we need your help. We are looking for people to do one or both of the following:

* Create and dress up in bagel costumes and/or make and carry signs; or simply attend our bagel protest outside of Gracie Mansion * Participate in a civil disobedience action (NOTE: No one is required to engage in civil disobedience. You can come, simply watch, and enjoy yourself.) Come to an information session Saturday, November 13 at noon at Housing Works Brooklyn headquarters at 57 Willoughby St., 2nd Fl, easilyaccessible by the A, C, F (Jay St./Borough Hall) or N/R (Lawrence St) or 2,3,4,5 (Borough Hall).

Stick around for costume decorating! Please RSVP and send questions to mailto:tho✧✧✧@housingwo✧✧✧.o✧✧.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 November 2010 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

I am going to hit the next person who tells me this fucker is "a good mayor."

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 00:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Cant stand this fuck and his smug face

http://www.ilxor.com/glyloop.mp3 (Aerosol), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 00:39 (thirteen years ago) link

and his absent snowplows

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 00:48 (thirteen years ago) link

janette sadik-khan makes up for a lot of other stuff, like I'm not sure that even a progressive dem mayor would be as good as he's been on this subject

iatee, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 00:50 (thirteen years ago) link

she went to my college

max, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 00:57 (thirteen years ago) link

just found out who that is.

you have got to be fucking kidding.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 00:57 (thirteen years ago) link

She is an ethnic Tatar.

buzza, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:01 (thirteen years ago) link

thank her when you don't get hit by a car on PPW, morbs. dunno how you can bitch about nyc politics...and transit...yet have (proudly) not heard of the very prominent DOT commissioner??

iatee, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:35 (thirteen years ago) link

pedestrian plazas for tourists on Broadway!

see deck chairs, Titanic

(I am pretty much never on PPW)

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:56 (thirteen years ago) link

also, on urban "greening": a fucking pissdrop in the ocean

she's "prominent" to the MSM Entertainment Circus

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:59 (thirteen years ago) link

and his absent snowplows

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Monday, December 27, 2010 7:48 PM Bookmark

Stop being such a self-entitled prick. The city is in really bad financial shape and it's not his fault.

I can take a youtube that's seldom seen, flip it, now it's a meme (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 02:01 (thirteen years ago) link

he's fucking sold it further down the river like Prick Rudy, Prick Dinkins and Prick Koch.

also lol, he got the third term under cover of being THE FINANCIAL GENIUS WE NEEDED!!!!!

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 02:18 (thirteen years ago) link

tourists shouldn't have to get hit by taxis either. it's a small but important step of a bigger process - shutting down larger parts of broadway to cars - which is pretty fucking revolutionary as far as american urbanism goes. he's a corporate fuck on a lot of things, but try and find another american mayor who'd push for congestion pricing like he did. times square is the biggest success story, but most of the progress is more subtle - there are pedestrian plazas throughout the city and new ones are being built at a pretty rapid pace. and hundreds of miles of bike lanes. and protected bus lanes.

iatee, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 02:20 (thirteen years ago) link

also, on urban "greening": a fucking pissdrop in the ocean

nyc easily the greenest city in america already

iatee, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 02:22 (thirteen years ago) link

I CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 02:23 (thirteen years ago) link

move to queens ffs

iatee, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 02:24 (thirteen years ago) link

you can't afford to live in the posh parts of nyc because it's become increasingly appealing to live here. that's annoying, but the solution isn't "make times square shitty and dangerous again" but rather "seriously increase the amount of housing in the nyc area"

iatee, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 02:27 (thirteen years ago) link

In Philadelphia the streets look like this a week after a snowstorm. I'm all for not giving any leader a free pass no matter what, but I don't think you've ever given a moment's thought to what it might actually take to govern a city (xposts).

I can take a youtube that's seldom seen, flip it, now it's a meme (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 02:49 (thirteen years ago) link

bike lanes are sweet but basically got no love for this guy

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 02:55 (thirteen years ago) link

A good city leader would work on creating a sustainable and equitable living environment for as many citizens as possible. Bloomberg worked hard as hell to take away public resources and put them in the hands of his business friends, and one of his primary "missions" was further bottlenecking New York's economy to high-end industries that are currently propped up by moral hazard from our federal government, done at the expense of the living standards of middle and lower-income New Yorkers.

Can't put all the blame on him, though, it might just be a result of how screwed up our economy and society in general is right now.

Spectrum, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 03:05 (thirteen years ago) link

liked when he got smacked down on the west side stadium cause he didnt kiss the right rings p funny

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 03:08 (thirteen years ago) link

lol atl

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 03:28 (thirteen years ago) link

oops

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 03:28 (thirteen years ago) link

no pity for brooklyn heights ford explorers

iatee, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 05:18 (thirteen years ago) link

"seriously increase the amount of housing in the nyc area"

Clearly not as big a priority as "plow 79th Street first, where Bloomberg lives."

I don't think you've ever given a moment's thought to what it might actually take to govern a city

^Kool-Aid drinker who accepts that a city must be minimally governed for the workers so the millionaires and tourists can be prioritized.

you can't afford to live in the posh parts of nyc

I'm talking about "middle-class" Kensington.

Spectrum otm

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 07:36 (thirteen years ago) link

you can't afford to live in the posh parts of nyc because it's become increasingly appealing to live here.

lmao

buzza, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 08:13 (thirteen years ago) link

must be bcz the city is in really bad financial shape

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 10:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I know a guy who pays $200 a month in kensington (w/ roommates, but still.) sucks that hipsters are gonna price you out of brooklyn, cause yeah, even the lower half of the borough is ridiculously overpriced for the most part. but again, until it's unaffordable to live in queens, the bronx and the path-y parts of jersey, it's hard to accept the argument "I can't afford to live here." there are literally millions of lower-income people who manage to pay their rent.

iatee, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean here in Brooklyn, where all my friends are (in other neighborhoods).

anyway:

http://www.salon.com/news/michael_bloomberg/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2010/12/28/bloomberg_christie_snow

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 December 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

haa did christie even have a reputation for effectiveness, i thought he just ate sandwiches and yelled at people

ice cr?m, Friday, 31 December 2010 02:32 (thirteen years ago) link

he is also #1 SPRINGSTEEN FAN 4EVA

Auld Future Wolf Lang Syne Them All (donna rouge), Friday, 31 December 2010 03:01 (thirteen years ago) link

I want springsteen to write a song about the arc tunnel

iatee, Friday, 31 December 2010 03:11 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.r8ny.com/blog/larry_littlefield

this guy has a good blog and the best take on the situation I've read. nate silver's is okay but also kinda ridiculous.

iatee, Friday, 31 December 2010 03:30 (thirteen years ago) link

silver obvs enjoyed putting his together v much

ice cr?m, Friday, 31 December 2010 03:32 (thirteen years ago) link

srsly

iatee, Friday, 31 December 2010 03:34 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/30/nyregion/30ride.html?_r=1

iatee, Monday, 3 January 2011 14:59 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't think you've ever given a moment's thought to what it might actually take to govern a city

"Kool-Aid drinker who accepts that a city must be minimally governed for the workers so the millionaires and tourists can be prioritized."

Um, maybe more like guy whose family lived in NYC for a couple of generations and experienced what it was like for "the workers" in prior decades (dad lost public school teaching job, aunt got mugged several times, etc.)

Yeah it sucks that NYC is so expensive now and I don't like banks and starbucks on every corner and russian tourists knocking me over because I stand in between them and century 21 either, but there are tradeoffs and cities need some kind of tax base. Bloomberg has been much better at prioritizing affordable housing policy than Giuliani was, fwiw. I know he's cozy with the finance industry but you also can't blame him for macroeconomic trends, the return of the rich to cities, etc.

pomp la familia (Hurting 2), Monday, 3 January 2011 20:23 (thirteen years ago) link

can I blame him for making a mealymouthed "It Gets Better" video 2 days after cutting the hell out of homeless youth programs?

http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2011/01/michael-bloomberg-it-gets-better.html

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link

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ice cr?m, Thursday, 6 January 2011 20:54 (thirteen years ago) link

this guy

ice cr?m, Thursday, 6 January 2011 20:54 (thirteen years ago) link

he's a 1-3 incher alright

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 January 2011 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link

boom

ice cr?m, Thursday, 6 January 2011 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link

dr morbius, the man with a phd in mayoral dick jokes

hi5s

Z-Ro Price (m bison), Friday, 7 January 2011 00:58 (thirteen years ago) link

lol you still aren't over this? cars couldn't drive for 2 days, boo hoo, end of the world

iatee, Monday, 10 January 2011 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't own a car, so wtf u talkin bout

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 January 2011 21:48 (thirteen years ago) link

right me neither, which is why roads not getting plowed didn't really ruin my day

iatee, Monday, 10 January 2011 21:52 (thirteen years ago) link

could you get out of your 'hood by train? I couldn't, for 2 days.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 January 2011 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah the 7 was running. but the subway problems weren't Bloomberg's fault.

iatee, Monday, 10 January 2011 22:02 (thirteen years ago) link

:p

WALKING to the subway (or the supermarket) might've been helped by plowing too.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 January 2011 22:04 (thirteen years ago) link

ime plowing just built up huge snow barriers at the crosswalks, was easier to get around before the plows. and I mean regardless, it would take an army to clear the sidewalks for all of NYC after the blizzard.

I mean admittedly I have a distorted POV where anything that makes it harder to drive a private vehicle is basically good for NYC.

iatee, Monday, 10 January 2011 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Morbs, the MTA is actually not under Bloomberg's control. I mean that's one area where you really can't lay the blame at his feet.

hey boys, suppers on me, our video just went bacterial (Hurting 2), Monday, 10 January 2011 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link

mostly just surprised that morbs is willing to let his pure hatred for bloomberg overwhelm the fact that this was a ny post-esque 'controversy' - gee, a giant blizzard slightly inconveniences the privileged minority of new yorkers who think that getting their driveway plowed should be the one and only city priority. and many of whom, by choosing to drive during the storm, helped make things worse. this is not quite hurricane katrina.

iatee, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 01:31 (thirteen years ago) link

iatee i feel like as a total n00b you should know the thing that pisses people off so bad abt the snowocalypse is its indicative of bloombergs distain for all people who are not bloomberg - and you know it is the citys job to remove the snow - pretending that its no big deal that it didnt get moved for three days isnt gonna change the fact that it was a major dereliction of duty

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 06:01 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah except I see little evidence that it happened because he had disdain for people (which is why I would have done it fwiw) and significant evidence that it happened because there was a much bigger than anticipated blizzard that surprised everybody including weather forecasters

iatee, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 10:02 (thirteen years ago) link

and icy maybe it's easier to take when you're not a n00b but people in this city have such an epic sense of self-entitlement...only place in america where 'my driveway didn't get plowed!' has merit as a national news story. average new yorker is incredibly shitty at taking the smallest inconvenience and I find this more disgusting on a day-to-day basis than I find the bumbling wannabe technocrat mayor.

iatee, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 11:18 (thirteen years ago) link

how fucking long have you lived here?

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 12:33 (thirteen years ago) link

(my God, the length of my ILX shitlist these days)

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 12:33 (thirteen years ago) link

a much bigger than anticipated blizzard

last February's was bigger btw

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 12:36 (thirteen years ago) link

haha the ultimate ny dick measuring contest xp

iatee, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 12:37 (thirteen years ago) link

I need to get the hell out of here and leave the place to the likes of you and the revered tourists who are going to Spiderman

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 12:39 (thirteen years ago) link

otm

iatee, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 12:40 (thirteen years ago) link

i was in New York just before Christmas for the first time in many months and i was impressed by how shitty everything still is - the appearance of the subway stations, the broken moving sidewalks in JFK, just everything. people like to talk about how different NYC is from the bad old days of the 70s and early 80s, but that old broken badness never really went away, it just got a few coats of expensive veneer painted over it, so the upper crust never had to really notice

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 12:40 (thirteen years ago) link

also, is NYC really the greenest city in America???? that is a sad comment if so! tell it to bed-stuy!

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 12:43 (thirteen years ago) link

greenest in that it produces by far the least emissions per capita, not cause it's clean or particularly healthy to live in

iatee, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 12:45 (thirteen years ago) link

ahhhhh i see

the number of parks within walking distance of any random spot you might choose, for instance, is like :(

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 12:46 (thirteen years ago) link

really iatee, I'm relieved to know that the old rapid snow-cleanup schedule was a gratuitous indulgence on behalf of the arrogant.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 12:49 (thirteen years ago) link

yeahhhh queens is esp grim on that measure xp

iatee, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 12:50 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah except I see little evidence that it happened because he had disdain for people (which is why I would have done it fwiw) and significant evidence that it happened because there was a much bigger than anticipated blizzard that surprised everybody including weather forecasters

― iatee, Tuesday, January 11, 2011 5:02 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is absolutely wrong btw

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 15:37 (thirteen years ago) link

the forecasts were for like a foot + of snow - every other time that amount has been predicted a snow emergency it declared before hand and the streets are cleared - this time bloomberg who will literally not say where he was because he was in bermuda did not do that and the result was a a shut down city for three days and trash piled up for a week - yr idea that demanding the city do its job is some sort of entitlement is plainly inane

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link

and just review the timeline of the media trying to pry an apology out of this fucker if you dont think hes disdainful of the v people he governs

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 15:46 (thirteen years ago) link

basically iatee's POV is that for paying taxes we are entitled to a good screwing.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 15:47 (thirteen years ago) link

stop complaining and put on yr boots its not the billionaires fault ok

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 15:48 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.r8ny.com/blog/larry_littlefield/a_surprisingly_severe_storm.html

So I went through the archived "Forecast Discussion" from the NWS, and found the following. As late as Christmas Eve, the storm was expected to basically miss most of the NY metro, excluding eastern Long Island and Connecticut. On Christmas morning, the possibility of a 6 to 9 inch snowstorm was forecast, and a “Winter Storm Watch” was issued. Someone should have been watching, because Christmas afternoon it was suddenly upgraded to a “Blizzard Warning.” It was still expected to be a powerful but not devastating storm in NYC until just after noon on Sunday, the day the storm hit, when the snow accumulation totals were updated. Bottom line: this storm put out more fakes than Michael Vick, so it is no surprise that a stunned city and MTA shanked a punt to Desean Jackson. The four “Forecast Discussions” follow in full: bold and italics were added by me. If you bore easily, just read those parts.

iatee, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link

so it wasnt clear it was going to be a big storm until a little before it hit, and no one noticed because it was christmas, OK YOURE ALL OFF THE HOOK ITS CHRISTMAS

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link

NBD CHRISTMAS

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link

I lolled at the press conference that Monday morning where we was all proud that there was hot chocolate at the parks for the kids

Aerosol, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 15:57 (thirteen years ago) link

its a christmas miracle

max, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link

folks in cardiac arrest who can't be reached by EMS: NOT ENOUGH PREP TIME

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link

http://gawker.com/5720157/can-you-guess-which-street-is-mayor-bloombergs

in review: for my next trick i will suggest that you are being unreasonable and believe the city is destroyed forever

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link

or rather ambulances (and plows) blocked by people who decided to abandon their cars in the middle of the street, but yeah, believe whatever story works for you xp

iatee, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 16:03 (thirteen years ago) link

I GUESS THAT NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE!

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 16:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I have to go - but like it or not manhattan sidestreets deserve higher priority than sheepshead bay sidestreets, more people/buses/bikes/cars/delivery vans/etc. are gonna rely on bloomberg's street at any given moment. not true across the board, but in general, yeah, most of manhattan deserves priority.

iatee, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 16:08 (thirteen years ago) link

also really love having "snow emergency" rules that officials don't think make sense, so they don't declare one. Maybe rule changes in July?

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 16:09 (thirteen years ago) link

or rather ambulances (and plows) blocked by people who decided to abandon their cars in the middle of the street, but yeah, believe whatever story works for you xp

― iatee, Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:03 AM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol iatee r u just trolling at this point

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link

guys MSP had a huge blizzard, everyone knew it was going to be big, but it was bigger than expected. this is supposed to be the first-class american city for snow removal this side of buffalo and those other lake-effect shitholes. but it still was enough to swamp the place. buses and even the plows themselves were getting stuck. the dome broke, as you may have seen. a college kid died in a house fire because fire crews couldn't get their trucks into those streets. both mpls and st paul declared back-to-back snow emergencies -- that's four days straight of restricted, move-your-car-every-eight-hours bullshit, and it still wasn't enough to clear all streets. there are crews chopping out intersections and bus stops even now.

i have my suspicions why it was so bad this time -- without looking at the books, my guess is the public sector is a little bit less lavish than in previous years about equipment. the cities had to borrow freeway-clearing equipment from the state DOT. so yeah, there's somewhat of a political angle in that political angle in that we ought to have more trucks, meaning $$, meaning taxes.

but you know who i blame really? the snow.

goole, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link

nope, unions

max, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link

NYC is not comparable to MSP, the venom and hatred help melt the snow here.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link

like, given the budgets they had, and the systems they had, i dunno what rybak (mpls) or coleman (stp) would or could have done differently. get out in a truck themselves? likewise i dunno what bloomberg could have done except not be a dick in a press conference.

there is a vid of a tow truck pulling a skid loader out of a drift and smashing like three cars tho, so maybe it's a problem of not much institutional or staff preparation for events like this -- the upper midwest deals with this shit so the public knows not to get too frustrated and the plow drivers know wtf they're doing.

xps well glad to know you're doing your part then morbs!

goole, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link

that vid is from NYC i mean

goole, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link

goole, we had essentially the same storm 10 months earlier, and the cleanup speed was night & day-different

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link

well ok then, a hugely lowballed forecast and a holiday seem like the culprits?

goole, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link

in MA (specifically Boston/Cambridge/Somerville) they drastically lowball the budget for snow removal every year and hope they get lucky; odds are something similar happened here

Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Most sentient adults know advance forecasts can't be trusted (also everyone I knew heard 'blizzard' 24 hrs beforehand), and re holidays this is the City That Never Sleeps.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link

all the people freaking out sunday morning at the stores buying all the milk and bread knew the deal

Aerosol, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link

oh my god i'll never understand that. fuck!! buy the two most perishable goods there are!! we might be stuck!!

goole, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link

loading up on dairy products in a lactose-intolerant society when you think you're going to be shut in for several days just seems like poor planning no matter what angle you approach it from

Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link

maybe they were going to freeze it

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 17:47 (thirteen years ago) link

lol iatee r u just trolling at this point

reached the point where I don't even know when I'm trolling anymore

iatee, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 18:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Finally - Morbs and Giuliani on the same page -

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/former_mayor_snafu_giuliani_blasts_CSLws3DEAOFv8SVEjJAs7L

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 18:11 (thirteen years ago) link

there are prob two separate arguments - one based on the mindset where the centrality of travel by car in the culture is completely out of whack, and the other taking that as a given and so based on the status quo and bloomsberg's performance in the face of it

zvookster, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 18:15 (thirteen years ago) link

btw, rock salt on the subway stairs today 6 hours before the first flake.

as Jimmy Breslin used to say, "beautiful.'

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 18:53 (thirteen years ago) link

'WEATHER EMERGENCY' FOR TONIGHT.

“We recognize that we did not do the job that New Yorkers rightly expect of us in the last storm,” Mr. Bloomberg said at a news conference at City Hall.

Bloomie shamed onto same page as everyone else.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 22:55 (thirteen years ago) link

plows out in force tonight

mookieproof, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 05:12 (thirteen years ago) link

“We recognize that we did not do the job that New Yorkers rightly expect of us in the last storm,” Mr. Bloomberg said at a news conference at City Hall.

eh its not exactly 'i didnt declare a snow emergency because i was in bermuda'

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 05:27 (thirteen years ago) link

oh man it's all plowed, so beautiful

best mayor ever?

iatee, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 13:32 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, what a medal he gets for taking care of 1/3 of the December snowfall.

I am declaring Iatee Looks Like a Choad Day.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 15:15 (thirteen years ago) link

happy iatee looks like a choad day, everyone!

max, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link

and the VV's cover story on more glorious NYC bang for the buck:

http://www.villagevoice.com/2011-01-12/news/nyc-payroll-computer-system-citytime/#

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link

so psyched to finally have my own day

gonna celebrate by cruisin around shep bay

this truly is a city of dreams

iatee, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link

dont rest on yr laurels, keep pushing until morbs gives you a nickname imo

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.dnainfo.com/20110120/manhattan/harlem-now-included-plan-legalize-hailing-livery-cabs

so, good for the boroughs vs 'great, more fucking black cabs'?

iatee, Friday, 21 January 2011 15:16 (thirteen years ago) link

everyone does this already, but good move regardless

ice cr?m, Friday, 21 January 2011 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link

oh man, gypsy cabs and upper manhattan, can't have one w/o the other

buzza, Friday, 21 January 2011 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link

sorta seems like it could be a first step in overturning the whole medallion system

iatee, Friday, 21 January 2011 15:35 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean at the very least meters + regulation would be a good thing...even though you can already hail one anywhere in the boroughs where there's currently enough of a market, a meter system would presumably increase ridership -> more business -> more coverage?

otoh worst fucking menace on the streets and I don't see anything in this process that would motivate them to drive more sensibly.

iatee, Friday, 21 January 2011 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link

i hate hailing black cabs cause i feel like i need to negosh

max, Friday, 21 January 2011 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I take a cab about 1.6 times a year

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Friday, 21 January 2011 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah I only take em to move shit

iatee, Friday, 21 January 2011 16:06 (thirteen years ago) link

aw you two are like 2 peas in a pod

max, Friday, 21 January 2011 16:10 (thirteen years ago) link

<3

iatee, Friday, 21 January 2011 16:11 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

joshrobin Josh Robin
Sustained booing for @mikebloomberg at labor-heavy crowd marking Triangle Shirtwaist fire anniv, @gracerauh says.
9 minutes ago

ice cr?m, Friday, 25 March 2011 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Unfortunately, Bloomberg was blissfully unaware that the tribute was being paid to the workers [[haw haw haw]]

Spectrum, Friday, 25 March 2011 18:15 (thirteen years ago) link

he wants to reopen Triangle Shirtwaist since he suspects a cigarette started the fire

Fuck bein' hard, Dr Morbz is complicated (Dr Morbius), Friday, 25 March 2011 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg intends to eliminate 4,100 teaching jobs through layoffs, city officials said on Friday.

resistance does not require a firearm (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 7 May 2011 01:36 (twelve years ago) link

three months pass...

"For your own safety stay in rooms with no or few windows."

DICK!

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 27 August 2011 09:17 (twelve years ago) link

do you live in a glass house or something? you know what they say, man.

some dude, Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:17 (twelve years ago) link

studio, WITH WINDOWS

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

uh yeah we all have those fyi

some dude, Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

I know that you think that every thing that bloomberg/the/ mta city of ny does is 100% just to fuck w/ you, but I mean, if the hurricane does get bad then people probably should attempt to stay away from windows. what do you want him to say? "I am buying a 1br for everyone in the city who lives in a studio" if there's a part of your studio that's further away from windows, you should probably be there. if things go apocalyptic, I dunno hang out in the bathroom.

fwiw I'm also in a studio w/ large windows right now too, outside of nyc but more directly in the hurricane's path

iatee, Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

"stay in a room with no windows in your apartment" is just something a guy w/ a panic room and several bunkers says

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

do you have a bathroom

iatee, Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

we have a 2br but there's nowhere away from a window. I guess the "worst" windows are ones facing S or SW? Or does it not work like that?

Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

Morbs, shut the fuck up and get in the bathroom with your Joel McCrea stickers collection.

a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:48 (twelve years ago) link

lol morbs this one is a bit of a stretch

J0rdan S., Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

I'm not gonna sleep in the bathroom, iatee, but i recommend you do

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

that's like... standard hurricane SOP

J0rdan S., Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

IN FLORIDA WHERE PPL HAVE HOUSES, YOU HICK

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

i have to imagine that in the vast jungle of nyc someone, somewhere, has an apartment with two rooms

J0rdan S., Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:57 (twelve years ago) link

what are you even complaining about at this point? do you think bloomberg is in some way responsible for the hurricane? do you think he could be doing things he isn't doing right now, if so, what exactly?

iatee, Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:59 (twelve years ago) link

an overwhelming majority of residents of new york city do not live in studios, I remember looking at the breakdown somewhere.

iatee, Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:02 (twelve years ago) link

what pct live in apts with a windowless room? don't answer.

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:04 (twelve years ago) link

it may be annoying (i have a 1-bedroom but the living room and kitchen have windows) but it's sensible advice. the mayor of Hoboken recommended the same thing FWIW.

Murdered plants communicate with a bowl of shrimps in another room! (Eisbaer), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:10 (twelve years ago) link

i mean, this is a silly thing to get pissed off with Bloomberg about!

Murdered plants communicate with a bowl of shrimps in another room! (Eisbaer), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:10 (twelve years ago) link

it shows the automatic-pilot elitism, typical of all high-level pols but rather pronounced in him.

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

this is insane

J0rdan S., Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:20 (twelve years ago) link

that we don't have windowless rooms?

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:21 (twelve years ago) link

Yes, but I, for example, am in a tenement 2Br and we have windows in every room.

Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:24 (twelve years ago) link

right but there's still a decision you can make w/r/t which room seems safer

iatee, Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:25 (twelve years ago) link

which was basically all bloomberg was saying...

iatee, Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:25 (twelve years ago) link

yeah fyi every single government official and broadcaster on the eastern seaboard has said this exact thing in the past 2 days, angrily reviving a thread about one of them because of your political opposition to them is just well it's just almost too morbz

some dude, Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:27 (twelve years ago) link

also it's not like there's gonna be some correlation between 'people w/ a room w/ no windows' and 'rich people' - lots of the 'worst' rooms in the city are gonna have no windows and lots of rich people are living in glass-y window-lovin skyscrapers.

iatee, Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:29 (twelve years ago) link

OMG Morbs, the "stay in a room with no windows" is also advice they give you in a tornado here in the Midwest, this isn't like something new Bloomberg pulled out of his ass just to piss you off.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:30 (twelve years ago) link

if you're so worried about debris flying through your window, then go to a shelter.

really, this is just pissing and moaning for the sake of pissing and moaning.

Murdered plants communicate with a bowl of shrimps in another room! (Eisbaer), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, reading boilerplate 'Prompter shit from the fuckin' Midwest is another example of Bloomie's expertise.

xxp

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

Alfred, shouldnt you be picking up teens at the video arcade?

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

hey let's find an example of an office-holding politician you admire and agree with who has issued this completely standard and logical warning -- oh right n/m

some dude, Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:39 (twelve years ago) link

"shall we play a game of donkey dong?"

a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:39 (twelve years ago) link

iatee already said it, but there are plenty of the new yuppie/hedge-funder condos that have tons of windows. this is just basic safety, not another sally in the Class War for Christ's sake.

Murdered plants communicate with a bowl of shrimps in another room! (Eisbaer), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:39 (twelve years ago) link

then again, maybe Dennis Perrin lives in a studio walk-up and can write a suitably angry opinion piece about all of the "clueless" politicos. won't do shit, but hey you gotta keep occupied during the storm amirite?!?

Murdered plants communicate with a bowl of shrimps in another room! (Eisbaer), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:41 (twelve years ago) link

i do like the idea of windowless rooms being the mark of the high class

J0rdan S., Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:42 (twelve years ago) link

"i finally knew i had made it when i could sit in a dark, small, windowless room during a tropical storm"

J0rdan S., Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:43 (twelve years ago) link

The only windowless room I remember being in, in Brooklyn, was ian j0hns0n's! we smoked some shit.

Perrin lives in Michigan, dilly

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:44 (twelve years ago) link

also not all rooms w/ windows are the same thing - an older tenement w/ a window to a central shaft area / small courtyard would presumably be less dangerous than a window facing a large open on-the-grid-avenue

iatee, Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:51 (twelve years ago) link

i'm not really worried about the windows, but there are two skylights for which the covers don't seem to be very well attached. and the ceiling has leaked before

mookieproof, Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:54 (twelve years ago) link

FIX THAT, BLOOMBERG

mookieproof, Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:55 (twelve years ago) link

what about if you have a window big enough for a cow to be blown through what then

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:57 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think anyone on ilx lives in staten island

iatee, Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:59 (twelve years ago) link

this thread's revival is Exhibit A as to why politicians don't (and shouldn't) try to court the chronic malcontent vote.

Murdered plants communicate with a bowl of shrimps in another room! (Eisbaer), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:03 (twelve years ago) link

I was generally happy with the Democratic Party in 1974-75, fyi

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link

2 years out of a 200+ year run isn't exactly a strong refutation of a charge of chronic malcontentism.

Murdered plants communicate with a bowl of shrimps in another room! (Eisbaer), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:11 (twelve years ago) link

Progressive Era was nice too

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:12 (twelve years ago) link

so now I'm 200+ yo?

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:12 (twelve years ago) link

lol i wasn't gonna say

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:12 (twelve years ago) link

haha yeah

iatee, Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:12 (twelve years ago) link

as someone who tends to agree with/defend you, morbs, it's necessary to know precisely what it is you're upset about

frogsb (k3vin k.), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:13 (twelve years ago) link

4llyz4y is "furious" too, btw, so count yr blessings!

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:15 (twelve years ago) link

boilerplate 'Prompter shit from the fuckin' Midwest

I know the midwest has a bad rap but don't they know a thing or two about severe wind storms.

The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:19 (twelve years ago) link

it's possible to get pissed at the general "the sky is falling!" alarmism in the media and the government about the hurricane and the moronic behavior of some NY-area residents (all of that is pissing me off, too) and to also get pissed off when someone is getting his nose all bent out of shape over being asked to avoid being next to windows.

what is Bloomberg supposed to say? "i think it's advisable that you stay away from windows ... but hey, if you wanna get cut to ribbons by shards of flying glass or impaled by a telephone poll that's your call"?!?

Murdered plants communicate with a bowl of shrimps in another room! (Eisbaer), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:21 (twelve years ago) link

howbout "For those of you who have windows everywhere..."

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:22 (twelve years ago) link

your studio sounds pretty nice

iatee, Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:23 (twelve years ago) link

if you live in a place with bad hurricane conditions you go stay somewhere else fuckin duh

some dude, Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:38 (twelve years ago) link

"avoid basements BUT I LIVE IN A BASEMENT WHAT THE HELL"

some dude, Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:39 (twelve years ago) link

PeanutFreeMom Debra Jones-O'Brien
Our town has opened up several emergency shelters for the storm, but I just got us reservations at the Hyatt instead. #Irene
58 minutes ago

J0rdan S., Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:39 (twelve years ago) link

"family room, no windows please"

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:40 (twelve years ago) link

#hurricanechic

iatee, Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:40 (twelve years ago) link

Disney World is awesome during a hurricane, I'm told.

a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:42 (twelve years ago) link

mickey maelstrom

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:42 (twelve years ago) link

i was gonna stay with a friend's family but they're west of me and more in the direct path according to the latest models. i may drive into campus, bring a blanket, some food and water, and stuff to read, park my car in one of the parking garages and ride it out in my pharmacy building, which has fridges, microwaves, lots of places to hide, etc. could be kinda fuckin awesome actually

frogsb (k3vin k.), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

that sounds insane

J0rdan S., Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

you should invite other people and make it a party

iatee, Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:49 (twelve years ago) link

whoops meant that for the hurricane thread - anyway yeah we do shit like this sometimes when we have exams and stuff and are in there studying, i know how to work the projectors in the lecture halls so we put basketball or football games on the jumbo screen, order pizza, and study in there

frogsb (k3vin k.), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:51 (twelve years ago) link

at least you'll have lots of cool drugs to try

a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:51 (twelve years ago) link

back on topic:

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/08/rikers-island-prisoners-irene

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 27 August 2011 19:10 (twelve years ago) link

just belatedly wanna dip in to say:

The only windowless room I remember being in, in Brooklyn, was ian j0hns0n's! we smoked some shit.

that i always thought ian j0hns0n would be the kinda guy who had a room bong

(Chris Isaak Cover) (schlump), Saturday, 27 August 2011 20:50 (twelve years ago) link

PeanutFreeMom Debra Jones-O'Brien
Our town has opened up several emergency shelters for the storm, but I just got us reservations at the Hyatt instead. #Irene
58 minutes ago

Damn that is one righteous display name

Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 27 August 2011 21:23 (twelve years ago) link

kinda curious what the financial cost of shutting everything down is.

walking around carroll gardens a couple hours ago almost nothing was open, but the one or two restaurants/bodegas that were were busy. bodega was still pretty stocked, too.

mookieproof, Sunday, 28 August 2011 01:26 (twelve years ago) link

on that measure, we're fairly lucky that it's happening over a weekend

iatee, Sunday, 28 August 2011 01:38 (twelve years ago) link

Went out just now to give the dogs a chance to pee. Heard from someone that power to Greenpoint has been cut off.

Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 28 August 2011 05:01 (twelve years ago) link

greenpoint is pretty much all zone b at best it seems

mookieproof, Sunday, 28 August 2011 05:30 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...
one month passes...

Taibbi parses that crap, and how Bloomsmug has thrived:

Bloomberg’s main attraction as a politician has been his ability to stick closely to a holy trinity of basic PR principles: bang heavily on black crime, embrace social issues dear to white progressives, and in the remaining working hours give your pals on Wall Street (who can raise any money you need, if you run out of your own) whatever they want.

He understands that as long as you keep muggers and pimps out of the shopping areas in the Upper West Side, and make sure to sound the right notes on abortion, stem-cell research, global warming, and the like, you can believably play the role of the wisecracking, good-guy-billionaire Belle of the Ball for the same crowd that twenty years ago would have been feting Ed Koch.

...the condescension levels here are unbelievable, his air of aristocratic superiority almost breathtaking to behold. Listen to Bloomberg paternally conceding in one breath that it is certainly nice that some struggling people now have homes ("I'm not saying I'm sure that was terrible policy, because a lot of those people who got homes still have them and they wouldn't have gotten them without that"), just before chiding us with the next that there are sometimes negative consequences to doing something that sounds like goodness, like giving people a place of their own to live....

Well, you know what, Mike Bloomberg? FUCK YOU. People are not protesting for their own entertainment, you asshole. They’re protesting because millions of people were robbed, by your best friends incidentally, and they want their money back. And you’re not everybody’s Dad, so stop acting like you are.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/mike-bloombergs-marie-antoinette-moment-20111103

Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 November 2011 20:24 (twelve years ago) link

I hate this guy so much.

Mordy, Thursday, 3 November 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

4 morbs

http://gothamist.com/2012/01/26/mayor_bloombergs_should_never_start.php

iatee, Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:13 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

I can sense 4llyz4y fuming, in every sense of the word

http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/politics/2012/04/5728546/bloomberg-not-trying-end-smoking-he-says

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

what do we think about this? i'm kind of OK with it tbh

twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Friday, 1 June 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link

re-elect bloomberg

fapper don (J0rdan S.), Friday, 1 June 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link

in Chicago

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 June 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link

we already have one

fapper don (J0rdan S.), Friday, 1 June 2012 17:25 (eleven years ago) link

what do we think about this? i'm kind of OK with it tbh

I'm ok with calling people pigs for ordering 20 oz sodas but not making their sale illegal.

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 June 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link

The people or the sodas?

Brony! Broni! Broné! (Phil D.), Friday, 1 June 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link

Lady Bracknell: Well, both, if necessary, I presume!

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 June 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link

John Cole's response

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 June 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

FANTASTIC ad juxtaposition on that post

fapper don (J0rdan S.), Friday, 1 June 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

Bloomberg does know that two 16 ounce cokes equals one 32 ounce supersized coke, right? So what is to stop people from ordering two beverages instead of one?

costs more, for one thing

And why are fruit juices exempt? Does he not realize how much sugar is in your average over the counter orange juice and apple juice- my goodness, they are worse than soda, because with a soda you know you are getting a gut bomb. With fruit juices, you may thing you are drinking healthfully, but you are getting the same amount of sugar as if you were guzzling coke.

all calories aren't created equal - fruit juices are much more nutritious on a per-calorie basis

twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Friday, 1 June 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

I heard him say this morning, literally, "we want to make you go to another cup."

btw Big Gulps are still allowable, I understand, bcz 7-11s aren't considered restaurants.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 June 2012 17:55 (eleven years ago) link

but almost as bad with sugar levels

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 June 2012 17:55 (eleven years ago) link

xpost

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 June 2012 17:55 (eleven years ago) link

I'm working on a study right now that's examining the effect of sugary drink consumption on kids' weight and it's pretty awful. Not that that's surprising, just saying. Anyway, I fully support this.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Friday, 1 June 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link

i'm not familiar with the logistics - though i trust mr. cole is - but i don't see how enforceability is an/the issue, or why that matters. and calling it 'paternalistic' doesn't really appeal to me, but then big-government liberals like me tend to avoid that rhetoric. this seems to pretty much amount to a soda tax

twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Friday, 1 June 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link

but almost as bad with sugar levels

― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, June 1, 2012 1:55 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

xpost

― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, June 1, 2012 1:55 PM (3 minutes ago)

people guzzling 32 ounce orange juices at mcdonalds is a bridge we can cross once we get to it

twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Friday, 1 June 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link

a tax disproportionately on the poor, now there's a switch.

(I don't want them drinking that shit either, but the man's priorities are monomaniacal)

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 June 2012 18:01 (eleven years ago) link

sorry, guys, this is where my liberal streak really kicks in (fuck calling it a "libertarianism").

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 June 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link

Ordinarily I think I'd be totally against something like this but given where I'm working and what on it's sort of hard to be. It's not like someone still can't buy tons of soda but this might deter them or make them think about it even a little bit which can only be a good thing imo.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Friday, 1 June 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link

I'm okay with public schools eliminating soft drinks, PSA's during Cartoon Network, and so on, but I don't want a bored tinpot Ms Grundel setting rules. I mean, education does work. Every conservative I know (i.e. my family) no longer keeps Coke or Pepsi products around the house.

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 June 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link

people can still drink soda guys. just not as much

twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Friday, 1 June 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link

a tax disproportionately on the poor, now there's a switch.

(I don't want them drinking that shit either, but the man's priorities are monomaniacal)

― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, June 1, 2012 2:01 PM (3 minutes ago)

this seems better than a straight sugary-drink tax, in that it encourages but doesn't punish moderation. buy a 16 ounce for the same price it always was.

i'm sensitive to regressive taxes like this too, but it's somewhat difficult to avoid when the epidemic you're fighting is so neatly tied to socioeconomic status, as obesity is.

twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Friday, 1 June 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link

where the hell is iatee

twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Friday, 1 June 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

writing speeches for Larouche.

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 June 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link

oh c'mon

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 June 2012 18:10 (eleven years ago) link

i think this is kinda dumb, definitely paternalistic, probably pointless. and yet... i don't care too much? don't drink ANY soda, how 'bout that. voluntarily, like.

goole, Friday, 1 June 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link

probably says more about the hyperdense center-of-universe politics of NYC than anything else tho

goole, Friday, 1 June 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link

I think my big question here is "why is soda being treated like a life-giving substance that people need in order to survive?"

that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Friday, 1 June 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link

Great, I'm going to NY in September and now I have to triple my soda budget.

Brony! Broni! Broné! (Phil D.), Friday, 1 June 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link

really dunno why anybody drinks anything in a town where finding a bathroom is a soviet experience

goole, Friday, 1 June 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link

Try bumming a cigarette.

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 June 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link

means nothing til they ban bacon too.

how's life, Friday, 1 June 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

what the hell is a soviet experience?

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Friday, 1 June 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

they made Solzhenitsyn hold it for 20 years

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 June 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

lol

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Friday, 1 June 2012 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

Soundbite from Bloomturd yesterday on soda-size hearings: "No one is going to stop this."

And next, alcohol:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/25/bloomberg-alcohol-abuse-city-telephone-survey-new-york_n_1701356.html

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link

I guess I was gone volunteering for larouche the first time this came up but the way I'd suggest thinking bout this is let's say a democratic mayor passed a large-soda ban and bloomberg was being lobbied by a buncha soda giants and was trying to reverse the ban. do you really, honestly believe that you would be supporting that in that context?

iatee, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

big gulp-ernment

am0n, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

I want ppl to live as unhealthily as they choose to, and decrease the surplus population.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

too bad they burn through all the public health dollars on their way out

goole, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

(catch the Dickens quote?)

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

nope

goole, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

this kinda (very soft) health paternalism is pretty uncontroversial in countries where they accept that there's a social responsibility for health care provision / that maybe free market capitalism won't result in optimal decision making 100% of the time.

iatee, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link

I'm all for ppl being healthier, but not nanny statism

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

democratic socialism inevitably requires something of a 'nanny state'. universal health care is nannystatism.

iatee, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

i feel a lot more comfortable having huge private for-profit beverage corporations dictate the conditions of my soda consumption than representatives of elected government

max, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

I know there's irony somewhere in there, max

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

no way, what is freedom if not making sure that multinational businesses always have more influence than the state

max, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

I think what Morbs meant to say is that we don't really care until it affects our alcohol-consuming convenience. Or that could just be me.

check the name, no caps, boom, i'm (Laurel), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

as long as mikedolf bloomler stays away from the booze, i'm good with his health agenda.

Spectrum, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

oh, missed the last revive. anyway this is pretty much otm and echoes one of max's points: http://www.newyorker.com/talk/financial/2012/08/13/120813ta_talk_surowiecki

k3vin k., Monday, 3 September 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

I've been turning this over in my mind for a while, and I just can't help but think there is something deeply wrong with the new campaign to convince mothers to breastfeed, like there's something sick about it. I don't know if I can entirely justify this opinion, other than the fact that I'm a new father and see what a sensitive and difficult issue it is already.

look at this quarterstaff (Hurting 2), Monday, 10 September 2012 02:36 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks to the revive, catching up on this thread's back catalog as a recent New York arrival. Holy shit did I LOL over the great "get away from windows during a hurricane" uproar.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 10 September 2012 02:56 (eleven years ago) link

i do like the idea of windowless rooms being the mark of the high class

― J0rdan S., Saturday, August 27, 2011 1:42 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"i finally knew i had made it when i could sit in a dark, small, windowless room during a tropical storm"

― J0rdan S., Saturday, August 27, 2011 1:43 PM Bookmark

Doctor Casino, Monday, 10 September 2012 02:57 (eleven years ago) link

saw this ad:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7106/7740341158_f6e34f75fa_m.jpg

plastered on the side of a pepsi truck today

fight the power

iatee, Thursday, 13 September 2012 13:32 (eleven years ago) link

straight from the NYT homepage:

New York City Approves Ban on Large Sugary Drinks
By MICHAEL M. GRYNBAUM 29 minutes ago
The measure, which bars the sale of sweetened drinks larger than 16 ounces, will take effect in six months unless blocked by a judge.

Panel Decides to Regulate a Circumcision Ritual 2:27 PM ET

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 September 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

read that article morbs

la goonies (k3vin k.), Thursday, 13 September 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

saw this ad:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7106/7740341158_f6e34f75fa_m.jpg

plastered on the side of a pepsi truck today

fight the power

― iatee, Thursday, September 13, 2012 9:32 AM (6 hours ago)

amazing

la goonies (k3vin k.), Thursday, 13 September 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

I've been turning this over in my mind for a while, and I just can't help but think there is something deeply wrong with the new campaign to convince mothers to breastfeed, like there's something sick about it. I don't know if I can entirely justify this opinion, other than the fact that I'm a new father and see what a sensitive and difficult issue it is already.

I haven't seen the specific campaign you're referring to, but as someone who also recently became a father, there is definitely a lot of pro-breastfeeding information presented to you by health authorities and others that you encounter on the road to parenthood. I don't think it was too over the top though I'm sure it annoyed some people. My wife and I intended to breastfeed though for various reasons things didn't work out that way.

o. nate, Thursday, 13 September 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

xp I saw that sign in spanish, which somehow made it seem even more effective/ridiculous as faux-revolutionary propaganda

look at this quarterstaff (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 September 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link

is there a thread in which we fight for our beverage choice

dayo, Thursday, 13 September 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

brb patenting a hat that holds 4 16 oz. cocaine colars

skrill xx (cozen), Thursday, 13 September 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link

is there a thread in which we fight for our beverage choice

― dayo, Thursday, September 13, 2012 5:36 PM (22 minutes ago)

this one?

la goonies (k3vin k.), Thursday, 13 September 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

lol

goole, Friday, 14 September 2012 04:01 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

http://i.imgur.com/eGuMm.jpg

iatee, Monday, 19 November 2012 14:12 (eleven years ago) link

LOS BUROCRATAS

iatee, Monday, 19 November 2012 14:12 (eleven years ago) link

speaking truth to power, god bless them

chief beef (k3vin k.), Monday, 19 November 2012 15:07 (eleven years ago) link

some linda mcmahon shit there

chief beef (k3vin k.), Monday, 19 November 2012 15:07 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...
one month passes...

the thing is like, i totally get it, and i don't disagree with it completely. but like, i LOVE a jumbo size. i grew up with it. a deli means jumbo size to me. sorry that's just the way it is.

surm, Thursday, 24 January 2013 00:45 (eleven years ago) link

well the goal is for the next generation to not grow up thinking deli means 800 calories of sugar water

iatee, Thursday, 24 January 2013 00:48 (eleven years ago) link

i would also get those huge "italian subs" on the reg so u can't go by me

surm, Thursday, 24 January 2013 02:01 (eleven years ago) link

but tbh i would get the jumbo half n half, not soda. altho i'm sure that's illegal now too

surm, Thursday, 24 January 2013 02:02 (eleven years ago) link

itt a strange man asks if you saw the ass on that one

http://nymag.com/news/features/christine-quinn-2013-2/index5.html

Later in the evening, the host interrupted me to point out that the mayor himself had just arrived. Did I want to meet him? Sure. My friend and I followed the host over, shook Bloomberg’s hand, and my friend thanked him for his position on gun control. Without even acknowledging the comment, Bloomberg gestured toward a woman in a very tight floor-length gown standing nearby and said, “Look at the ass on her.”

goole, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 01:02 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2013/03/11/judge-puts-cap-on-super-sized-soda-ban/]

FREEDOM LIVES IN AMERICA

iatee, Monday, 11 March 2013 21:57 (eleven years ago) link

http://abcnews.go.com/images/Health/abc_starbucks_mi_130311_wblog.jpg

Mary Elizabeth Quinn, left, said she doesn't agree with New York City's regulation of sugary drinks. Megan Guinan, right, supports the city's ban. (image credit: Karen Keller)

iatee, Monday, 11 March 2013 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.filmindependent.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/run.jpg

s.clover, Monday, 11 March 2013 22:14 (eleven years ago) link

Lol

latest worst poster (darraghmac), Monday, 11 March 2013 23:56 (eleven years ago) link

so awesome, fuck you Granny Mike

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 13:31 (eleven years ago) link

"If you look at how menus have changed, whether it be in fast food or family dining, you are seeing more and more healthy options," Cashion says. "Not because of legislative mandates or regulatory mandates, but because of consumer demand. Our industry has always been one to respond to the marketplace."

iatee, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 18:19 (eleven years ago) link

time to start shaming instead I guess

No, not sinister (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 15 March 2013 16:44 (eleven years ago) link

ugh just learned about this, fuck this earth

k3vin k., Saturday, 16 March 2013 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

Deal reached on paid sick leave over opposition of Mayor Whineberg, after Mayor-in-Waiting Pantsuit caves:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/29/nyregion/deal-reached-on-paid-sick-leave-in-new-york-city.html

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Friday, 29 March 2013 13:02 (eleven years ago) link

http://gothamist.com/2013/03/27/cigarettes_must_cost_at_least_1050.php

iatee, Friday, 29 March 2013 14:31 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

WOMEN VOTERS FOR CHANGE
nyc

BLOOMBERG: YOUR IDEA STINKS!

I live in a tiny NYC apartment with no room for even a garbage can. I am a senior citizen, and can hardly make it to my garbage room, no less get out of bed with my tired joints.

Now you want me to recycle my scraps of food?

How dare you impose your idea on the sick, dying, and elderly.

ARE YOU GOING TO FINE THOSE WHO ARE TOO OLD SND FEEBLE TO SORT EVEN MORE OF THEIR GARBAGE WHEN THEY HARDLY CAN REMEMBER TO TAKE THEIR MEDS!

SHAME ON YOU BLOOMBERG!

iatee, Monday, 17 June 2013 02:51 (ten years ago) link

god that nyt article is stupidly framed

max, Monday, 17 June 2013 10:47 (ten years ago) link

El Bloombito will now try some monetized blackmail on the City Council:

http://www.salon.com/2013/07/01/mayor_bloomberg_decides_to_spend_some_money_to_save_stop_and_frisk/

playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 July 2013 14:06 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

60 Clarkson was notorious when I lived in Flatbush. It was def regarded as a "problem building" on that block.

chinavision!, Monday, 12 August 2013 15:44 (ten years ago) link

he knows that to the extent there are any busts they're gonna be for weed, right

"Dave Barlow" is the name Lou uses on sabermetrics baseball sites (s.clover), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 22:55 (ten years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/newsgraphics/2013/08/18/reshaping-new-york/

k3vin k., Sunday, 18 August 2013 00:00 (ten years ago) link

link above is new video of fran lebowitz as part of the nyt thing--very classic as always on miguelito

Iago Galdston, Sunday, 18 August 2013 20:07 (ten years ago) link

Bloomberg is not actually trying to defend the constitutionality of his NYPD’s tactics, because it’s clear that he doesn’t actually care about constitutional policing. He’d have fired Ray Kelly after the RNC if he did. His point is to argue that it’s not racial profiling, because blacks really do commit more crimes, and that racial profiling is necessary, because blacks commit more crimes. See, “it’s not racial profiling” is the thing you say to make white liberals more comfortable with your actual pitch, which is, “we all know racial profiling works.”

http://www.salon.com/2013/08/19/new_york_citys_frisking_twins_meet_the_press/

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Monday, 19 August 2013 14:40 (ten years ago) link

Now Bloomberg is defending himself with that same logic in a Washington Post guest editorial too:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/michael-bloomberg-stop-and-frisk-keeps-new-york-safe/2013/08/18/8d4cd8c4-06cf-11e3-9259-e2aafe5a5f84_story_1.html

curmudgeon, Monday, 19 August 2013 15:43 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

saw that and thought "Morbius" immediately

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 16:32 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

coming to a town near you!

spread to fuck the fruit (Eisbaer), Sunday, 15 December 2013 17:45 (ten years ago) link

I think I will always remember this quote as the quintessential Bloomberg phrasing:

“But look, graffiti does ruin people’s property and it’s a sign of decay and loss of control. Art is art and nobody’s a bigger supporter of the arts than I am. I just think there are some places for art and there are some places [not for] art. And you running up to somebody’s property or public property and defacing it is not my definition of art. Or it may be art, but it should not be permitted. And I think that’s exactly what the law says.

signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Sunday, 15 December 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link

four months pass...

“I am telling you if there is a God, when I get to heaven I’m not stopping to be interviewed. I am heading straight in. I have earned my place in heaven. It’s not even close.”

goole, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 15:58 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

it's amazing what they were able to keep in the closet about Bloomberg's personal life...he wasn't going to Bermuda every weekend to play golf, if you know what I mean...

Iago Galdston, Friday, 27 June 2014 14:45 (nine years ago) link

he was going to his soda mansion to chug soda

iatee, Friday, 27 June 2014 15:02 (nine years ago) link

de Blasio backed the ban btw, tsk tsk

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 June 2014 15:24 (nine years ago) link

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1041458/original.jpg

iatee, Friday, 27 June 2014 15:33 (nine years ago) link

Still don't get what about the soda ban turned everybody into a libertarian

, Friday, 27 June 2014 15:35 (nine years ago) link

Too arbitrary.

Suppose a convenience store started a promotion: "Buy a 31 oz. soda and get a free 1 oz. soda with it!" If they put them into two cups, would that violate the ban? Anything that could be so publically ridiculed and circumvented is not ever going to make a good law. It was either empty posturing, or a total failure to foresee its unenforceability.

Aimless, Friday, 27 June 2014 17:02 (nine years ago) link

the point is to make it marginally more difficult to sell massive amounts of soda, not impossible. stores wouldn't give people 1 oz cups of soda because that would look make the store and the consumer look ridiculous, and nobody would actually miss that 1 oz of soda anyway, which is the bigger point.

iatee, Friday, 27 June 2014 17:11 (nine years ago) link

people just want 'the biggest' and tend to finish what they order they don't have some innate desire to consume 32 oz of something

iatee, Friday, 27 June 2014 17:12 (nine years ago) link

Wait, what's he doing in Bermuda?

how's life, Friday, 27 June 2014 17:13 (nine years ago) link

he has dedicated the rest of his life and his entire fortune to studying the bermuda triangle mystery

iatee, Friday, 27 June 2014 17:13 (nine years ago) link

the point is to make it marginally more difficult to sell massive amounts of soda, not impossible.

bingo! there can't be a compelling state interest to reduce soda consumption, if that interest can be satisfied by a regulation that can't be shown to accomplish anything.

Aimless, Friday, 27 June 2014 17:21 (nine years ago) link

what. this is like arguing against gun regulations because you can kill people with knives. changing peoples behavior by making things marginally more difficult to do is not accomplishing nothing.

iatee, Friday, 27 June 2014 17:27 (nine years ago) link

this is like arguing against gun regulations because you can kill people with knives.

No. This is like arguing against a regulation on soda because the proposed regulation doesn't actually regulate soda.

changing peoples behavior by making things marginally more difficult to do is not accomplishing nothing.

But there is no requirement here that people change their behavior, only an inference that they might. so, the regulation cannot be shown to accomplish anything. One may infer that it might possibly accomplish something, which is different.

Aimless, Friday, 27 June 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link

okay I am done talking to you

iatee, Friday, 27 June 2014 17:56 (nine years ago) link

thinking that there are plenty of stupid laws and that the soda law was one of them doesn't make you a libertarian. the soda law struck me as arbitrary and dumb in the same way you can't buy alcohol on sundays in some states

marcos, Friday, 27 June 2014 17:57 (nine years ago) link

Wait, what's he doing in Bermuda?

― how's life, Friday, June 27, 2014 1:13 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's amazing what they were able to keep in the closet about Bloomberg's personal life...he wasn't going to Bermuda every weekend to play golf, if you know what I mean...

― Iago Galdston, Friday, June 27, 2014 10:45 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Iago Galdston, Friday, 27 June 2014 18:44 (nine years ago) link

I think we all know what it means not to play golf.

Aimless, Friday, 27 June 2014 18:55 (nine years ago) link

ive heard all those whispers, but his gf never seemed like the beardo type

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 June 2014 23:29 (nine years ago) link

eight months pass...

which of these guys is most thrilled to be near the other three?

http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-HI513_NYEGAN_H_20150310152901.jpg

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 15:36 (nine years ago) link

at that height is he really near anyone?

goole, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 21:37 (nine years ago) link

four years pass...

Bloomie, fuck you you fuckin fuck

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 November 2019 22:50 (four years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/12AwAY2cWA

— Jason Adam Katzenstein (@JasonAdamK) November 7, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 November 2019 01:14 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

I regret to inform you that Mike Bloomberg attempted to shake a dog’s mouth. pic.twitter.com/hKsagJ4xAf

— Christopher J. Hale (@chrisjollyhale) January 28, 2020

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 23:07 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

icymi

Bloomberg has explicitly argued that “our interpretation of the Constitution” will have to change to give citizens less privacy and the police more power to search and spy on them. In fact, he does not seem to believe that certain people have innate civil rights that the state must respect. If the NYPD wanted to spy on Muslims, even if they lived outside New York City, solely because of their religion or ethnicity, Michael Bloomberg thought it was a great idea. And as Jack Shafer recently pointed out, his dedication to ensuring submission began before he was an elected official—when he was the boss at a company notorious for its tyrannical treatment of employees.

Bloomberg’s three victorious mayoral election campaigns are depressing evidence that a substantial number of Americans are amenable to authoritarian politics and uninterested in protecting civil liberties. So long as the person overseeing the police state claimed to be surveilling people for their own good, it was easy to turn a blind eye, especially if the surveillance was concentrated in certain neighborhoods. ...

https://newrepublic.com/article/156560/michael-bloombergs-polite-authoritarianism

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 February 2020 16:31 (four years ago) link

I genuinely don't know if Bernie can win the general, but I feel confident that Bloomberg would lose it. I'm upset by his entry into the race. He's a spoiler.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 13 February 2020 16:32 (four years ago) link

He is exactly the worst of both worlds -- he will dampen enthusiasm among the democratic base, but he also wants to come after your guns and soda and vape pens.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 13 February 2020 16:33 (four years ago) link

thread worth reading, this dude is almost as terrible as Trump is

What 2020 Presidential contender said the following?
- "I'd fuck that in a second,"
- "I’d do that piece of meat…”
- “If women wanted to be appreciated for their brains they’d go to the library instead of to Bloomingdale’s”
- Called women: “fat broads” & “horse-faced lesbian.”

— Sarah (@sarah_in_ny) February 12, 2020

frogbs, Thursday, 13 February 2020 16:34 (four years ago) link

he also wants to come after your guns and soda and vape pens spy on yr Muslim ass.

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 February 2020 16:37 (four years ago) link

I don’t like to dunk on my short kings (hell I’m barely 5’9”) but fuck this elf

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 13 February 2020 16:37 (four years ago) link

What "unlimited resources" buys you:

Trump was in rare form during his post-acquittal speech. pic.twitter.com/jq8NTTn5yd

— Team Bloomberg (@Mike2020) February 6, 2020

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 13 February 2020 17:44 (four years ago) link

this asshole is in my state today and apparently a lot of prominent Dem politicians here are backing him. clap real good for Daddy Mike and maybe he'll toss you a tasty million or two bucks as a treat.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 13 February 2020 18:20 (four years ago) link

These people do not have the poster’s spirit. They’ve dishonored themselves and our noble profession https://t.co/uvfo7VthFD

— Sweetie in chief (@InternetHippo) February 13, 2020

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 February 2020 18:27 (four years ago) link

wishing for an asteroid for each of em

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 February 2020 18:33 (four years ago) link

from that list of Bloomberg quotes

"If I were a woman, I would wear high heels."

of course you would, dude, you're super short and probably have considered it anyway

mh, Thursday, 13 February 2020 18:37 (four years ago) link

Trump otm?

I'm not sure I would actually vote if Bloomberg was the nominee? I guess I would because of the Supreme Court, but there is a 50-50 chance Bloomberg selects a Federalist Society ghoul anyway.

We're jumping on the road with @Nickelback this summer! (PBKR), Thursday, 13 February 2020 18:38 (four years ago) link

Actually I doubt that. He's a Republican at heart, but he's not a FedSoc Republican.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 13 February 2020 18:41 (four years ago) link

bloomberg > trump just for the climate stuff. but yeah

mookieproof, Thursday, 13 February 2020 18:42 (four years ago) link

I will of course show up at the polls for him if it comes to that. Hell, I'd canvass for him if he was the nom, but does he even have volunteers? I feel like he probably just has an army of Boston Dynamics robots that go door to door for him.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 13 February 2020 18:51 (four years ago) link

to posit the possibility of a Bloomberg nomination is defeatism, you pikers

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 February 2020 18:54 (four years ago) link

God, Trump would clown Bloomberg in a debate so bad. People that don't know Bloomberg well should check out clips of him doing dumbass everyday political stuff like opening a sports arena or honoring someone famous. He is so bad at that shit and has no charisma.

We're jumping on the road with @Nickelback this summer! (PBKR), Thursday, 13 February 2020 19:07 (four years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/Iy4yvGBOJw

— Garf Gab (@GarfieldFanArt) February 13, 2020

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Thursday, 13 February 2020 19:11 (four years ago) link

Bloomberg is a remarkably poor public speaker. if he actually has to start talking his numbers will tank harder than Biden's

frogbs, Thursday, 13 February 2020 20:11 (four years ago) link

I didn't have much exposure to his speaking voice until recently but he really does have that patrician, speaking-down-his-nose-at-the-plebes tone nailed down.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 13 February 2020 20:12 (four years ago) link

bloomberg's 'actually, rich new yorkers are laughing at you' is exactly why people fucking vote for trump

mookieproof, Thursday, 13 February 2020 20:16 (four years ago) link

Wait till you hear him speak Spanish

Josefa, Thursday, 13 February 2020 20:16 (four years ago) link

https://twitter.com/ElBloombito

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 February 2020 20:19 (four years ago) link

BOOMberg

Bloomberg at his second event today in NC: Trump “calls me little Mike. My answer is Donald, where I come from we measure height from the neck up.”

whistling (brownie), Thursday, 13 February 2020 20:21 (four years ago) link

Would imagine that Trump is taller by that measure also

Josefa, Thursday, 13 February 2020 20:23 (four years ago) link

My answer is Donald, where I come from we measure height from the neck up.

God, I hate bullies and I want to give Bloomberg a wedgie.

We're jumping on the road with @Nickelback this summer! (PBKR), Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:02 (four years ago) link

it's interesting to see Trump spend his energy attacking the guy he'd have the easiest time beating while defending the person most likely to defeat him but that's how his brain works.

frogbs, Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:06 (four years ago) link


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