Perfume / Cologne

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So what kind do you wear? Do you wear any? Is it pricey? Cheap? What's it smell like, because really just saying the name generally isn't enough. Are any of you allergic to perfume / cologne? What do you think about people wearing it? What about on men, classic or dud?

(Question prompted by TWO perfume related experiences this weekend, weirdest being man who followed me around Food Emporium working up the nerve to ask what kind I wore)

Ally, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I wear the Gauiter fragrance with the male torso.

anthony, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

What's that smell like?

Ally, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

St. Etienne

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I used to use cologne now and again for very fancy occasions -- can't recall *what* I used, it was that long ago. These days I simply trust the work of a good shower and effective underarm deodorant.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Dud: relying on supermarket deodorant/antiperspirant to do all the odor-bearing work. This is a poor habit of indie boys, though preferable to no deodorant at all.

Benjamin, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I wear Fracas. It comes in a black bottle. It smells like tuberose and gardenia and something else. I used to wear Joy, which smells like jasmine and tuberose. I might switch back to that. I plan to go to Sephora pretty soon and go through all their perfumes and decide on a new signature scent.

Sometimes when I feel like being a moron I wear Skin Musk, that stuff is tops.

Ally, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't wear any, just deodorant.

Ally C, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

My signature scent for a long time was Fahrenheit, which smelled like pine. Lately I've taken to wearing a Perry Ellis scent that smells like generic cologne. Sob.

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

sticky stuff under arms = dud. I like my smell.

tracer Hand, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Bod, the green one. Every single time I wear it I get compliments, girls come up and take big wiffs. At first, I thought they were being sarcastic and then I realized that it smells like Isey Miaki (or however you spell it). At $7 per huge bottle, it's a much better deal than it's fancy Asian counterpart. I also wear some blue shit from Bath & Body that is similarly fruity. I like fruity scents. Spicey or musky are disgusty. My girlfriend wears Happy a lot and Green Tea (I think?). Yummy.

Nude Spock, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Unfortunately, tracer, your idea is mainstream in subway life. Everyone seems to be pleased with their reeking ass selves on the subway.

Nude Spock, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

In elementary school I tried to be cool by bringing one of those sample vials of cologne into the coat room, but I dropped it and it broke and stank out the joint, not to mention my arm for the next 24 hours. Perry Ellis still makes me get all misty-eyed.

Dave M., Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

There are always Demeter's colognes. Laid-off "new media" girls in New York seem to have a fondness for the "Dirt" smell. But if I smell like Gin and Tonic or some other Demeter fragrance, it is because I have spilled my drink down the front of my shirt.

Benjamin, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I too wear the Gaulthier cologne with the naked man with the huge package. It used to make my ex very, um, aroused. But my european housemates bought me a bottle of Emporio Armani from the duty free store. I wish they had gotten me cigarettes instead.

Phil-Two, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Note to Tracer: Similar feelings about sticky armpits have caused me to become addicted to anti-perspirants.

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

spock - yet I am unbothered because I am protected by my own impermeable force-field of earthy sweat. Fight fire with fire!

I have heard that people in Germany hold body odor in much higher regard (aphrodisically speaking) than us scrub-crazy Americans. I don't think UKers feel the same way, but it sure seems like it ;)

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I almost bought some Dirt - I'd been putting it off, and when I went back to the store to buy it, I felt it was a little sweet for my taste. The tangerine one was nice. I'm sticking with Song de Chine (a green tea fragrance), and after my bottle is empty, I'm going for a citrus. I like to mix the green tea with the citrus or a rose scent. I hate spicy or excessive floral scents. I also like Rain oil, but that's a little played out now, I guess.

Kerry, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Demeter annoys me - I mean, why would you want to smell like Dirt? Or Gin & Tonic? Or Tomatoes??? I don't get it. Their sweet ones are nice for trying to be all innocent every once and a while, like there's one that smells all carmelly, I forget what it is called but it's nice enough.

I like Smell This for cheap stupid novelty scent. Beach Smells = great.

Ally, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Used to have Eau D'Issey Miyake. Now I use what my granny gives me. Can't remember what it is though. Oh yeah occasionally use Anais Anais.

nathalie, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

A bottle of Tommy I stole from my brother. Or a CK1 one rip off from Target. Both I've recently grown tired of, and am looking for a switch. Most men's cologne's are really gross, too musky. I tend to go for the perfumey types.

The odd thing is when you are standing in an elevator or such, and you notice some stranger smells like an ex-girlfriend.

bnw, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Bought bottle of semi-expensive YSL Kouros in duty free shop two or more years ago when loaded (in all senses). Still a few splashes left. What happened to the great smell of Brut?

Andrew L, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

My problem is that I wear things that are way too expensive. I was sitting there in that stupid movie this weekend smelling my wrist, going, hey, this isn't strong enough for costing $90. I have to go find something strong enough to be worth that cash, although apparently it's stronger than I thought.

Ally, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I wear a number of perfumes/colognes but my favourites are: Eternity, 5th Avenue and 2 I can't find anymore... :( Somewhere and Wishing( Avon) Gale

Gale, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

If my nose comes within ten feet of Tommy, I feel like vomiting. Sensory trigger reaction from 2nd college roommate (for more information, see 'Strange Wiggling').

matthew, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Nothing...I usually don't like perfume. I like flowery scents, though. The real reason is that I am too cheap to spend money on accessories, be it perfume or hair ties or makeup. $10 for perfume when I could get a book? Really, people. Deodorant and shampoo.

Lyra, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Old Spice. Grown up man's smell.

DavidM, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Sort of masculine but in a femme kind of way. citrus, greenry and a touch of floral

anthony, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't go for aftershave, I just have nice-smelling deodorant, currently Lynk Gravity (I think).

DG, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

sorry, LYNX.

DG, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I have a zinc deficiency and that urban legend lactose intolerance, which means I've had almost no sense of smell my whole life, and for that reason any smells which I can perceive are pretty disagreeable to me, especially artificial odors. Manure smells better to me than perfume / cologne.

Otis Wheeler, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Has cologne become "in" again, or am I just now noticing more guys wearing cologne than before?

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I *hate* the smell of perfume and am incredibly glad Isabel doesn't wear it (she's allergic - I think she'd quite like to wear it). It all just smells so ghastly and inhuman - ugh. Being on a tube with someone with strong perfume on is the absolute worst form of public transport sense pollution I know, bar someone actually taking a shit on the tube floor.

Tom, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, surely perfume was invented and became fashionable when it was really really difficult for people to take regular baths. It is now in the 1st world at least not difficult for people to take regular baths i.e. perfume is now completely unneccessary and using it is the equivalent of still using a horse and bloody cart.

Tom, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Tom you have reminded me of the hilarious joke Q. Why do girls wear makeup and perfume A. Because they are ugly and they smell.

I don't wear it on a daily basis but sometimes if I'm going out. Then it's Eau D'Issey or Dune. I used to wear Spellbound and lots of men would comment favourably on it. Why did I stop?

Emma, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't wear any, just deodorant.

Ally C - Lynx Africa does not count as deodorant as it has no anti-perspirant qualities. It's a body spray = perfume = you are a girl.

I like perfume (and girls) so that's not meant as an insult. I'm wearing Farenheit today, which is nice but doesn't seem to last very well. Sometimes I wear Cool Water and sometimes I sip into my CK selection pack.

Nick, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

um, ckone

gareth, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I theoretically agree with Tom as reasonably clean humans usually smell great and covering it up seems daft. However, some musky perfumes (I'd recognise them, but I don't know their names) do send me into a deep lustful swoon.

I do use an antiperspirant myself but that's because I'm a sweaty bastard.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

You sip perfume Nick? Why not just try breath freshener?

Emma, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

At the moment Héritage by Guerlain or on sunny days Allure by Chanel. After I finish those I'm going to change again, I'm thinking Vetiver by Guerlain and that Helmut Lang eau de toillete if I can ever find a bottle in this godforsaken city.

In general I trust Guerlain and Chanel.

Omar, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Today it's Hugo Boss, but I've also got Bvlgari (a bit lemony, not too sure about it), contradiction, xs and boss elements aqua. I love the smell of perfume and aftershave, mind you I do get some funny looks when I ask people what that lovely aftershave they're wearing is. But nothing floral, destroy:anais anais, the smell of creeping death and funerals.

cabbage, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

perfume and cologne are both disgusting. they make me gag. they all smell so damn artificial and in many cases like solvents and some people SERIOUSLY overdo it. a clean-person-smell is so much nicer and is actually pretty damn attractive.

lady die, Thursday, 23 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The trick with perfume is to only apply enough so you can smell it when you get close. Unfortunately, this is difficult to achieve as most perfumes either fade quickly or smell very strong for the first couple of hours.

I am currently rotating between Fendi, Trussardi Light, CK Truth, Green Tea, Happy, a freebee phial from Zara and a bottle of stuff from River Island I got for Christmas (work days only).

Madchen, Thursday, 23 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
I wear Angel now. Everyone likes it, but vaguely irritatingly, Ramon prefers Skin Musk, which I used to wear, which costs $8 in the kiddie perfume section of Duane Reade. Why am I spending any money at all? I'm a big moron.

Ally, Tuesday, 16 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I think Angel has chocolate in it. I wear Comptoir Sud Pacifique's Motu, but it's a summery fragrance and the bottle's almost empty so I'm looking for something else next. They have a new one, Coeur de Raisin. I tried it, it's grape, lilly and jasmine, about $50 for a small bottle, I guess that's a moderate price. The Jo Malone Honeysuckle + Jasmine I bought only attracted bees, it's still more than half full.

Lesley Higgins, Tuesday, 16 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I think my favourite is H2O+'s Green Tea but I don't have it - somehow got Elizabeth Arden's Green Tea instead which smells pretty darned good too and is especially nice if you use just a tiny bit but of the actual cologne but beforehand you shower with the gel and use their moisturizer and also if you use a green tea scented shampoo and conditioner - leaves just a very subtle scent but then you've got it *everywhere*. I don't have a signature scent though as I have about ten different ones on the go at any given time. I love cool oceany or airy smelling ones for everyday. Still, sometimes nothing beats something as basic as a fresh shampoo and a bit of baby powder.

On the boy I'm 'liking' this new one that's oh so obliquely called Sexual. It's like, ok YOU, bedroom NOW!

Kim, Tuesday, 16 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Kiehl's. Cucumber. Body. Wash.

better shower regularly tho, or you'll turn into a pickle!

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 16 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Comptor has some nice stuff if you just want really subtle. Except for that goddamned Vanille line they have, which smells like you've just rolled around for 8 hours in cookie dough and then gone out, and is disgusting.

Ally, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

What an excellent question. I'm still mourning discontinuation of Donna Karan's Chaos - although I saw a bottle for $150 in a rare perfume shop I didn't bite. I'm trying to find a replacement because it's spicy and musky and everyone else likes it on me too. I'm one of these people who cannot bear to have the same perfume as any friends. but as I used to wear the Issey Miyake one, Diorissimo, Joseph and the men's Escape I'm not normally a musk person. If you like real ho's bedroom stuff go for Chaumade by Guerlain.

Suitable replacements for the Chaos are either the Comme des Garcons red or Corso Como 1010 and I will get one of these on my next trip to Liberty, or when a fashion friend goes through Milanese duty free. Whichever comes first.

suzy, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

You know what's good? Thierry Mugler's new mens cologne. If I could afford to buy such things right now I'd get it, it smells delish.

Nicole, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

This thread has reminded me I should wash. Thanks ILE!

Sarah, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

white musk from the Body Shop - i've experimented with other things and non of them work for me. the smell of white musk actually calms me down and balances me as well - it's amazing!

katie, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

And it excites Mark Casarotto!

RickyT, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

perfumes are dud. I like to smell people. If there's any non-natural scent to them let it be a lingering of their soap/shampoo that can only be smelled when you get really close.

Samantha, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, I hate to wear the same fragrances as my friends too, which is why I hate telling anyone offline what perfume I'm wearing. I used to buy the most expensive one possible when I was in high school and college cos I knew if I told people which one it was, they wouldn't be able to afford it anyhow so it wouldn't matter. I know, I know perfumes smell different on different people thanks to body chemical makeup but still - if you've ever walked into a room reeking of COol Water or Tommy Girl because 10 girls are all wearing it, you know what I mean. My entire workplace seems to wear Cool Water or Bulgari, it's bullshit. Angel is common enough for me, quite frankly, that's as common as I'll go, and I go out of my way to mix things when I'm wearing a common one to make sure it doesn't smell like regular (hint: lotions from Bath and Body Works are good for doing this).

Ramon wears Pi, that smells pretty good. Nicole, what does the new Mugler one smell like? Is it that Angel Men one?

Ally, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I wear Bvlgari, and I don't know anyone else who wears it. Is it far more popular over there?

chris, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

It might just be a workplace thing, ie the girls here all latch onto each other, "Ooh, you're wearing that? Where'd you get it?" (next day) "Are you wearing that perfume?" "Yeah!" "Fantastic!" Argh. They do that with shoes too.

Ally, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll stress nopw that I'm referring to Bvlgari for boys, I am not a perfumed ponce.

It is nice though, very fresh

chris, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Right now I'm after a bottle of Ralph Lauren Glamorous (I know, everyone has that now, but I was wearing stuff that smelled absolutely identical for years, and I don't know where to find more cuz the store that sold it closed), and Yves Saint Laurent Baby Doll. I just like that they're so flowery and warm, and sweet in a subtle way, not overbearingly like Vanilla Fields or Angel. Actually, Angle Innocence isn't bad. I also like Lancome Miracle.

For guys, I like Christian Dior Higher (airy, floral) or Farenheit (to me, it smells like SEX!, it's just raw appeal), or Giorgio Armani Acqua di Gio (light, transparent, oceanic). I don't like old-man- smelling stuff, and I don't want my guy to smell like a girl, either.

simmer, Monday, 5 November 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm with samantha.

ethan, Monday, 5 November 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I prefer no scent on people too - I don't even like the smell of shampoo/soap/washing-powder-on-clothes/deodorant. Having said that, some perfumes etc. are really beautiful smelling.

I have a tendency towards puritanism and so for many years I was as fragrance free as I possibly could be. I am a bit more relaxed about things nowadays so I do sometimes wear some perfume or something.

toraneko, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

LYNX is one of those scents which reminds me of powder gay night here in Dunedin, and KC's too. My friend Steve thinks that the constant conjunction of LYNX and these places, mingled with the memory of one night stands has given him associations such that he gets horny every time he smells it.

Someone I knew wore vanilla essence, but stopped after a strange man approached her and said that she smelt good enough to eat.

Menelaus Darcy, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Ally: No, it's not Angel for Men, I think it's just called Mugler Cologne. It's mostly bergamot and citrus, with a nice "clean" scent to it that I can't quite identify.

Just plain soap and water works fine for some people, but I have noticed that there are some people who just smell off like sour dough even if they bathe and/or shower regularly. Which is why the "no scent" option is sometimes dud.

Nicole, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

People who smell like sour dough?!?!?!?!?!

I like Marc Jacob's new cologne. Except I don't like that it's advertised by pictures of Sofia Coppola.

Ally, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

So do I. But yeah, Sofia Coppola??? Forget Godfather 3, I hate her for doing that psuedo hipster crap television show High Octane a few years back.

People do have very distintive smells, whether they clean themselves a lot or not. I do remember another girl I knew who just smelled like a goat. It's not like she was dirty, it was her body chemistry.

Nicole, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

A goat? Good lord. That's the worst thing I've heard in a long time. You're right though, some people just don't smell pleasing on their own, that's why I think the insistance some people I know have on being anti-cologne baffles me. "I like natural human smell, with maybe just some soap" - not when "natural human smell" means a person smells like sausage (which happened to my sister, our doctor told her to take garlic pills to clear up something and she did and they made her stink of polish sausage until she stopped taking the garlic).

Sofia Coppola is a complete dud, and it pains me to want to buy Marc Jacobs when I feel I am supporting Sofia Coppola by doing it.

Ally, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

THIS JUST IN: Happy For Men does not smell like it was made for men, nor does it make me happy. Wearing fruitier-smelling cologne than your wife = DUD.

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Dan, avoiding Clinique in general is a good bet.

Ally, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

maybe it's supposed to make you smell like you're happy for men.

ethan, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Joei loves Clinique stuff, though. She thought it would be cute for me to get a sample of Happy For Men since she wears Happy sometimes because then we could have matching scents. I honestly couldn't tell the difference between the two at first. Happy For Men is more masculine in the same way that a severe black skirt is more masculine than a pink tutu. If we're going to have matching scents, I'd much rather they be Obsession.

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

That was actually sort of funny. Hrrm. WORLDS ARE COLLIDING.

Just kidding. I've never said "just kidding" in a post before, ever.

I'm wearing something called Croquembouche by Demeter. I don't know what a Croquembouche is, but it smells like caramel, which is a bit odd. WHy do I want to smell like food?

Ally, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I love perfumes,i use 212 for men,Giorgio Armani's aqua di gio or issey miyake.i feel this is what a gentleman should smell of! I think every young man should get one of them!

chukwuma Nwude, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
you know i am hopelessly searching for my beloved donna karan "chaos" does anyone have this or know where i can get some??? sigh.......

r.d. lehman, Thursday, 29 November 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Err heref or a start. Or am I missing something?

Nick, Thursday, 29 November 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Has anyone ever tried Adidas? My son wears it, and I have never smelled anything as nice. It is jus a clean smell. :) Gale

Gale Deslongchamps, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The cologne I'm wearing now is's pretty good and all, but I get sick of it fast! I've tried many different colognes in my day, and the best BY FAR is Realm. It's really light and smells awesome. It's also said to contain some phermones in it too....helps attract the I'm told. Oh well, Realm is the shiznit.

Dan Meissler, Friday, 14 December 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

i wear holy water by demeter. reminds me of being a girl with catholic parents.

maura, Friday, 14 December 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't mind perfume as long as it's just a hint. I usually don't wear cologne unless I know I will be active for a while, and will have to attend a large gathering in close quarters - then comes a couple small drops of BRUT.

Otherwise, I prefer shampoo/soap/fabric softener/candle odors than perfume/cologne... I'd rather take a dip in baby powder than spend large dollars on little bottles of excess.

Brian MacDonald, Friday, 14 December 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm going to try a new one. Royal Doulton . I love trying new perfumes

Gale Deslongchamps, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
In flatmate's Cosmo there was a strip of new perfume Miracle (can't remember who makes it). It was gorgeous, even with glue smell. Can anyone confirm? Understand there is also a men's version.

N., Saturday, 26 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

six months pass...
I cant say that I've ever had a quote "signature scent" I've went from the Old school Draakar noir everyone had it, everyone loved it everyone hated it is how it pretty much went.. LOL IM sure more than a few of you still have a quarter full bottle of the stuff or empty bottle just for old time reminiscing. but anyway from that to whatever sparks my sniffer walking through the mall. I usually keep about five or six handy for all different occasions Huge fan of curve, its a nice warm smell for a guy without being too spicy, nice and smooth! D&G is a nice aggressive scent a little spice without being overwhelming, Never liked Tommy a little too citrusy for me but of course I had a bottle of that junk too LOL right now IM actually trying to figure out what to buy next, I don't think I've ever bought the same cologne more than once, I made one exception though. Aqua di geo absolutely marvelous LOL I have to say though smelling good was just a normal everyday thing for me, I didn't realize how much it actually does matter to the opposite sex! it seems as though not all guys share the same desire to smell pleasing the way I do so if you are like me, and your not well informed about the situation at hand.. It really does matter LOL and that's all I've got to say about that LOL ! any comments or help with a new purchase email me at

Joseph Hunsinger, Friday, 26 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Cologne on men is just about as dud as dud gets.

Sean, Friday, 26 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

yip -stinkie and dudie

ducklingmonster, Friday, 26 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Perfume: Tommy Girl and Vanilla Musk are dope. Cologne: Once in a while I rock Escape (the bottle I've had since i was 14) but i usually get headaches. basically people should just use jergens sensitive because it makes your body smell like clean genitals all over

Ramosi, Saturday, 27 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

yuck perfume (& "cologne" ie perfume marketed at men)...I like the sound of this natural "sour dough" smell...I'm going to aim to mathat my "signature scent", if it's not already.

halo halo, Saturday, 27 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

yuck perfume (& "cologne" ie perfume marketed at men)...I like the sound of this natural "sour dough" smell...I'm going to aim to make that my "signature scent", if it's not already.

halo halo, Saturday, 27 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

My signature scent has always been Christian Dior's Diorella. I lubs it.

My favourite after-shave on a man is Essence of Mysore Sandalwood from Crabtree & Evelyn. Makes me go weak at the knees.

C J, Saturday, 27 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm thinking now that duckling meant dud-ie but i first read it as dude-ie, which i thought was great. you would not want to smell like a stink and you would not want to smell like a dude. i'm in general not a big perfume/cologne fan. i squirt some stinky juice on myself when i put on the suit, but that's about it. i do have a thing for ysatis, more on a specific person. she used to wear it in lieu of deodorant, so the perfume would get all entangled with girlie b.o. which was wonderful. i once smelled someone wearing it, years later, on a bus and immediately got off the bus and hopped into the perfume store to buy myself a bottle. i don't put it on me, just maybe spray a bit around the bathroom and such. i would be supportive of people appreciating natural human stank rather than perfumes. also, why do so many people hate patchouli. oh yeah at one point i was messing with some essential oils - there was a cool smelling frankincense oil that did smell kind of like sweet dirt.

Ron, Saturday, 27 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I wear Eau de Ciel by Annick Goutal. I've tried a few Goutal scents (I'm a sucker for that girly packaging) but like that one the best.

For men, I liked Vetiver by Guerlain (vetiver, tobacco, line), which I bought once on the recommendation of the nice man with a waxed moustache at Colonial Drug for an ex-boyfriend who smoked. I doubt I'd like Vetiver any more now than I like Chanel's Coco which I wore when I was 16 and thought I was chic. Now I think it smells like whore.

Has anybody else read the very gothy Perfume by Patrick Suskind? THE UNDETECTABLE YET ALL- POWERFUL SCENT OF YOUNG FRENCH VIRGINS hehehe

felicity, Saturday, 27 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

(Felicity I love how you could be nu-Suzy if you wanted to.)

nabisco, Saturday, 27 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

apparently it's all about Nu, that's what the Frenchies say

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 27 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I've worn Tea Rose for years. Some of my friends would probably suffer from cognitive dissonance if I wasn't wearing the stuff.

I hate when people wear so much cologne that it's almost visible (especially because then I sometimes have slight allergic reactions), but I hate even more when people smell as if they haven't had a shower in the last decade (one of the many reasons I hate DC public transportation).

I'm bored with the fashion for fruit (especially citrus) scents, and thankful that the vanilla fad seems to have peaked., Saturday, 27 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
My dad is a better perfume collection than mine. I stole some of his hugo boss one night. girls still go crazy, yeah yeah it's old. After trying everything the next perfume I buy will be a hugo boss. Try it maybe you'll like it.

Nelly Carlson, Monday, 19 August 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
LYNX smells like the back end of a dirty cat's scent gland plus a locker room thrown in. It is the biggest woman repellent ever created. All the women I know say this.. Sigh! When will men ever learn that if we can smell at a short distance anything you wear for smell, it's done the opposite job it was ment to do. Too much of anything, no matter how nice or expensive is a big big turn off!

Karen, Thursday, 27 March 2003 20:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Just that name alone! I wear Clinique Happy for men, which you can practically bathe in and not have it be overpowering, and Hugo Boss green, which is a little bit more of a problem with overuse. I swear I'm gross without co-log-nee.

Bryan (Bryan), Thursday, 27 March 2003 20:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I wear Charlie occasionally. But there's barely any need, because I rather strangely smell just like that normally.

ChristineSH (chrissie1068), Thursday, 27 March 2003 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm a perfume fetishist (just finished reading "a rebours" by huysmans which was a big bore apart from the perfume bits)....the whole "i love the smell of people / perfume is an abomination" argument really annoys me because there's nothing as delightful and suprising as the way perfume mingles with one's own scent , and how one perfume can smell totally different depending on the wearer.

"angel" was my scent for years, but just recently i decided to go for a change and am wearing the grandly named "jasmine for the empress" by creed, which was created for the empress josephine (napolean's s.o.) it was a limited edition and i probably won't be able to replace it. shame, cos it's heavenly!

jeanne picot (jeanne picot), Friday, 28 March 2003 01:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Chanel's Coco which I wore when I was 16 and thought I was chic. Now I think it smells like whore.

I sometimes wear DK Men (discontinued, but I still find a bottle here or there online), it smells like manwhore.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 28 March 2003 02:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Too bad it's discontinued. What the world needs now is manwhores, sweet manwhores.

Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 28 March 2003 02:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Reviving, because I need to buy my youger sister some perfume for her birthday in a couple weeks time. She goes through perfume fast (apparently) so I wanted to get her something unusual and from sephora online. She lives in Michigan and is a pastry chef! Any suggestions?

marianna, Tuesday, 1 April 2003 14:03 (seventeen years ago) link

What kind of perfume does she normally wear? It would give me an idea of what kind she might like.

Me, I want a bottle of Alexander McQueen's Kingdom. I don't even care about the perfume, the bottle is just a little piece of art.

Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 14:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I like Charlie and anything that has an undercurrent of vanilla.

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link

So that's vanilla flavoured heroin, then?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

or vanilla-scented Viet Cong

felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I really loved one by VS - Encounter, I think it was, but they discontinued it, the fuckers - now I wear Dior Addict which smells YUMMY unless you overspray...

luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

From an impoverished standpoint, this stuff is just *too* effing expensive. Except for the nasty stuff that smells like pig wee.

(I'm an expert on pig wee, of course. Don't ask. You have to make a living somehow...)

ChristineSH (chrissie1068), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I wear Lolita Lemnicka (uh, is that what it's called?) and it smells strangely like cotton candy.

Mandee, Tuesday, 1 April 2003 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link

in france it's ALL called "parfum" - "cologne" is watered-down crap that only grandmothers wear

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not sure I really have a preference for women's perfumes. Do I really like Cristalle or Bulgari, or do they just remind me of certain people? I've certainly never minded a woman's perfume. Also, I don't think I've ever been physically attracted to someone, only to be turned off by how they smell (perfume or BO).

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Not even someone who smelled of pig wee?

ChristineSH (chrissie1068), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Surely it's just a denotation of strength?

parfum > eau de parfum > eau de cologne

Perhaps I am a grande-mere and Goutal is frumpy anyway but some of the scents are only easily gettable as eau de parfum and eau de cologne. I've tried!

Oh god I love BVLGARI. It's the Korean in me. And no, not because it looks like BVLGOGI,

felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

mmm pig wee

luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

mmmm eau de BVLOGNA

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link

All Korean barbeque joints throw in a free 2-day supply of Eau de Bvgolgi with dinner.

felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

in france it's ALL called "parfum" - "cologne" is watered-down crap that only grandmothers wear

This is now the FOURTH TIME I've seen/overheard you say this, Tracer Hand. WE ALL KNOW YR GF IS FRENCH STOP BEING PONCEY ABOUT IT. Before I dump buckets of cologne all over your unshowered ass.

I like those VS Secrets line of colognes except 88 is quite strong, I mean it's like meant to kill a man if you put on too much I think

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually, it's called LOLITA LEMPICKA and Sephora describes it as having hints of Ivy Leaves, Aniseed, Amarena Heart, Violets, Iris Roots, Vetiver, Tonka Bean, Vanilla, and Musk. (All together, those smell like cotton candy)

Mandeee, Tuesday, 1 April 2003 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Tracer, can't you see that that French Mata Hari of yours is using you as a pawn in her top-secret campaign of reverse espionage? The battle front is right here, in the Perfumanias of the free world.

felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay, not like you guys don't already think of me as hippie enough, but honestly in lieu of cologne I use those scent oils...the stuff I use now is a blend of sandalwood and frankencense (sp?). It makes me smell like MANIMALIUS ULTIMUS.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link

No it's us who are poncey, I mean men who spray perfume on themselves but need to use this special "man-word". For Christ's sake.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Tracer, teach me in the ways of your manword.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Get a room!

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 19:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Only if you ask nicely.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 19:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Ned will you loosen my black mandals?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 20:00 (seventeen years ago) link


Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link

It's the perfume I'm wearing, isn't it?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link


Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 20:36 (seventeen years ago) link


Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 21:01 (seventeen years ago) link

*quarantines Spencer Chow*

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 21:02 (seventeen years ago) link


Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 21:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Did it ever occur to you that man cologne is actually the same proportion parfum-to-other as the French old-woman cologne you speak of, Tracer Hand? DID YOU?

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 02:46 (seventeen years ago) link

don't naked ladies dance there?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 05:11 (seventeen years ago) link

eight months pass...
i have to admit i like smelling nice perfume but it's not really a sexual thing, it doesn't attract me to someone or even necessarily make me notice them, it's just a kind of wafting nice thing that cheers me up a little so long as it's not too strong.

the downside of perfume obv is that it gets stale, and the other day i was on a crowded metro with seemingly ten different types of stale perfume in the air and i wanted to vomit.

thank you.

amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 8 December 2003 08:01 (seventeen years ago) link

perfume exacerbates my hayfever bigtime

the surface noise (electricsound), Monday, 8 December 2003 08:05 (seventeen years ago) link

i always wear rapture and have for years. i love it. if it gets discontinued i will bomb the victoria's secret headquarters.

Emilymv (Emilymv), Monday, 8 December 2003 09:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Escada Sentiment for Men, these days -- "green lime, nutmeg, pink peppercorn, sandalwood, and cedar" -- which surprised me because it isn't the sort of thing I thought I would wear, but it works on me. Kenneth Cole Black, which I actually bought first because it is the kind of thing I thought I would wear, is terrible after I've worn it for half an hour or so, and gives my girlfriend migraines.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 8 December 2003 09:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Zirh cologne on occasion.

I've heard good things about Ralph Lauren Purple Label, but I can't find anywhere that sells it around here.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Monday, 8 December 2003 09:11 (seventeen years ago) link

so i just went to a friend's show, and i was behind the stage drinking beer with some other friends (all ages/no drinking venue). when the first band's set ended, they walked back and the guitar player said, "oh emily, i thought i smelled you"! and hugged me. does this mean i wear too much perfume?

Emilymv (Emilymv), Monday, 8 December 2003 09:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I wore Benneton's Colors from adolescence through college, at which point I decided it was time to stop smelling like the 80s. I still like it though, and I think I still have a bottle. Now I wear Isabella Rossellini's MANIFESTO, which is the best perfume name ever. Here's the description. I never see it offered anywhere now but it takes me a decade to get through a bottle so no matter.

teeny (teeny), Monday, 8 December 2003 14:08 (seventeen years ago) link

i like l'eau d'issey.

but i hardly wear any, since i'm phobic about wearing too much.

i've been thinking of getting something new. i like burberry brit, but hate the marketing campaign and the bottle. any ideas?

colette (a2lette), Monday, 8 December 2003 14:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I hate most perfumes, and I'm not completely happy with MANIFESTO because the floral notes linger longer than the woody/green notes, and so the scent becomes a little too old-lady over time. If anyone has recommendations for a non-sweet woody/green/oriental, pls share.

teeny (teeny), Monday, 8 December 2003 14:21 (seventeen years ago) link

The non-sweet part is the hard part, I think, but Bvlgari maybe?

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 8 December 2003 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link

ten months pass...
whoa, i wear the same thing that tep does

i used to wear cool water or ck crave

todd swiss (eliti), Thursday, 14 October 2004 22:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Aqua de Parma.

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 14 October 2004 22:18 (sixteen years ago) link

I have an Eau de Cologne strength scent called Sieste made by Fragonard in Grasse. My gf says it smells exactly like some brand name eau de cologne but I can't think of which one. I have a great fondness for Bel Ami by Hermès.

Michael White (Hereward), Thursday, 14 October 2004 22:38 (sixteen years ago) link

three months pass...
The office secretary just dropped a perfume bomb in our office and it's suffocating. I'm having shallow breath and narrowness of vision. It might have well have been sarin nerve gas.

Drake Beardo (cprek), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 16:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Turns out is extremely perfumey lotion. It's awful. The bottle needs a warning label against usage indoors.

Drake Beardo (cprek), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 16:22 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Despite the overly purple presentation, I'm so far very happy with everything I've seen from Black Phoenix Alchemy Lab (which has a cult-ish following and which, because it lags so much on filling orders, is best sampled by searching Ebay).

Within minutes of my putting Haunted on my hand to test it, Gretchen (a cat, fwiw, not a maid from Benson) jumped up on the couch next to me, sniffed my hand, and laid her head down on it and went to sleep. Your mileage will vary.

(I also like Demeter, if for no other reason than that I can do stupid writerly things like wearing Bourbon and Paperback and smelling like someone spilled bourbon in a used bookstore.)

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:08 (fifteen years ago) link

does anyone wear quorum?

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:13 (fifteen years ago) link

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Sometimes I wear L'air Du Temps, but not today.

Aaron A., Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:17 (fifteen years ago) link

QUORUM???? for people who find robert's rules of order sexy????

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:19 (fifteen years ago) link

2005 "what do you smell like" update: I have a crazy amount of options, partly because of a Penhaligons sample case that never seems to deplete, and partly because of having dribs and drabs left of things that aren't entirely empty yet. Penhaligons Endymion, Demeter Bourbon (Thunderstorm smells like a dead basement), Escada Casual Friday, Paloma Picasso Minotaure, and Lolita Lempicka for Men, my girlfriend's nostalgic favorite. And now I've got a dozen BPAL samples, some for me and some for her.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Everyday I wear a sandalwood/rose/spice combo from Bath & Body Works: it's not sweet, which I destest in perfume. I really like the new Prada scent, and may ask for it as a gift at some point.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Today I am wearin=g Escada Rockin Rio which smells so much like passionfruit that I want to lick myself.

I will not, however.

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Someone gave me some Eau d'Orange Verte by Hermès when I was in Paris in November and I've been wearing it since.

Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:28 (fifteen years ago) link

From now on, I'm only going to buy colognes and perfumes based on the ads and packaging.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Somebody gave me Chanel Egoiste Platinum which smells fancy.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Today I am wearin=g Escada Rockin Rio which smells so much like passionfruit that I want to lick myself.


Escada came out with a bunch of new stuff over the past couple years, either this is one of em or there isn't a "for Men" version. (Which is maybe good. Do I want to smell like passionfruit? Maybe if I mixed it with the Bourbon.)

Actually, after seeing just how much the Demeter Bourbon does in fact smell like bourbon, I splashed some single-malt Scotch on myself to see what it would smell like. It smelled like I had wasted some really good Scotch.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link

There are a few gin/juniper-based colognes. I like that scent.

Aaron A., Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:35 (fifteen years ago) link

If I only bought perfume based on packaging, it would be Kenzo Flower.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:36 (fifteen years ago) link

spencer, wear quorum.

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:02 (fifteen years ago) link

I'll check it out. What has their advertising signified?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:09 (fifteen years ago) link

It's new this year, I think, Tep. I keep making people smell me.

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:10 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm not sure what that means, spencer, but it smells rotten and has connotations of love-making ("quorum"!!!)

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Interesting. Something you might have seen in the pages of Oui in 1980?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:14 (fifteen years ago) link

so they call it 'quorum' because they can't call it 'quim'?

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:14 (fifteen years ago) link

quo-rum n.
1. The minimal number of officers and members of a committee or organization, usually a majority, who must be present for valid sex transaction of business.

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Is that all sex is to people? *shakes head*

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:17 (fifteen years ago) link

It's new this year, I think, Tep. I keep making people smell me.

I think you have a better shot at getting away with this than I do.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:23 (fifteen years ago) link

a brief history of my many smells (my first dead milkmen ref for the day!):

polo (in high school. nauseating!)
gap grass (miss it!)
claibourne for men (discontinued but have stash if i'm ever in the mood--rarely put it on)
dolce&gabbana pour homme (the one in the zebra stripe thingy. works with my chemistry very well. for now at least.)

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:24 (fifteen years ago) link

to people who wear quorum!


cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Jo Malone -- Nutmeg and Ginger.

Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:36 (fifteen years ago) link

polo (in high school. nauseating!)

But such a memory trigger...

Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:37 (fifteen years ago) link

L'eau d'Issey sometimes if I have to go to work or library
Guy Laroche Fidji if I'm feeling fancy (my mom used to wear this when I was a kid and I still love it)
or Guerlain's pamplelune (like right now) if I need to be reminded that spring will ever come again.

sgs (sgs), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Reading this thread also makes me realize I am really bad at describing smells in language like "woody tones" or whatever.

sgs (sgs), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, most of the scents I like are classified by the manufacturers as "woodsy orientals" or "spicy orientals," and I'm shit at trying to figure out what their commonalities really are. It's a skillset all its own, and with body chemistry such a big factor in how it actually ends up smelling, I'm not convinced it's as useful a skillset as it could be.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:52 (fifteen years ago) link

I've come around from my anti-parfume stance. Wearing perfume is like having your own invisible protection from the world wrapped around you. I gravitate toward clean, fresh, fruity scents.

Current faves: Acqua di Parma/Lavendar Tonic;Korres Athens/Citrus Body Water; and 06130/Yuzu Rouge.

Mary (Mary), Thursday, 10 March 2005 02:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Declaration by Cartier

Remy (null) (x Jeremy), Thursday, 10 March 2005 02:56 (fifteen years ago) link

i have been wearing amarige by givenchy for quite a few years, i still really love it. i also wear clinique's 'simply' during the day.

gem (trisk), Thursday, 10 March 2005 02:57 (fifteen years ago) link

amarige reminds me of an opium den, but in a flattering way.

Remy (null) (x Jeremy), Thursday, 10 March 2005 02:58 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah the oriental spice thing is the main reason i like it so much

gem (trisk), Thursday, 10 March 2005 02:59 (fifteen years ago) link

I sometimes wear Eau d'Hadrien by Annick Goutal.

youn, Thursday, 10 March 2005 03:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Put a guy in Issey Miyake or Joop Homme and I'm a wibbling puddle - I particulalry love the Joop one, it smells of vanilla milkshakes.

But for the most part I cant stand strong perfumes on anyone. I'd rather smell sweat than a bad cologne. Women who sit at work reapplying sceent TEN TIMES A DAY whats up with that? Spraying shit on yrself at your desk? Why dont you poop on your desk while you're at it, save some time.

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 10 March 2005 04:05 (fifteen years ago) link

you should only apply once! if you have decent perfume it lasts all day.

issey miyake on guys makes me utterly nauseous as it was the cologne of choice of the last chap who crushed my heart. i used to love it though.

gem (trisk), Thursday, 10 March 2005 04:25 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm trying out a new one by Rodier the moment, it's wonderful. Smells like my mum's spice jar.

kate/thank you friendly cloud (papa november), Thursday, 10 March 2005 04:30 (fifteen years ago) link

spicy is by far the best i reckon! so much better than floral. what is it called kate?

gem (trisk), Thursday, 10 March 2005 04:31 (fifteen years ago) link

It is so weird how intensely connected to memory the olfactory system is. I smell what I assume is CKOne all the time and am convinced my ex is walking among the crowd. I cant shake my brain off the idea.

Primitive part of the brain, apparently. Limbic system?

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 10 March 2005 04:33 (fifteen years ago) link

It's called Rodier pour homme. I don't really like women's perfumes much. Far too flowery for me.

kate/thank you friendly cloud (papa november), Thursday, 10 March 2005 04:35 (fifteen years ago) link

i'll check it out when next i'm in my favourite section of david jones

gem (trisk), Thursday, 10 March 2005 04:35 (fifteen years ago) link

also i am wracking my brains trying to remember where the olfactory senses are processed, it is proving that my psych degree did me no good at all since i did two whole units on physiol psych and sensation and perception and i really can't remember. oh dear. perhaps it was all the cones. you could well be right though trayce.

gem (trisk), Thursday, 10 March 2005 04:37 (fifteen years ago) link

i find a slight smell of human attractive. must mean i should move to germany. i dont mean stinky though. after breakups i've suffered bouts of sadness when smelling something that reminds me of an ex. amazed find that sometimes this sadness was invoked by the smell of a certain deoderant. agree about the primitive part of the brain.

i wear marc jacobs or fresia from crabtree and evelyn. sometimes i just wanna wear some fruity strange head shop oil but thus far i've held off from moonbeam or whatever. i wish i could smell like rosemary.

jane (jane), Thursday, 10 March 2005 04:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Demeter should make eau de spliff. I'd buy that shit.

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 10 March 2005 04:38 (fifteen years ago) link

the vanilla scent from crabtree and evelyn is pretty delish too actually. and you're right jane, rosemary is an awesome smell!

gem (trisk), Thursday, 10 March 2005 04:41 (fifteen years ago) link

I still look for my exes brand of deodorant in the supermarket a whole six years after we broke up because it reminds me of what I now see as a happy time in my life. I don't think they make it anymore....and I think I should get a life :)

kate/thank you friendly cloud (papa november), Thursday, 10 March 2005 04:43 (fifteen years ago) link

All I used to wear was hippy shop oils... sandalwood, that kind of thing. I still have a bottle of Body Shop's mega-intense woody sandalwood, 2 drops and you pong for days, it really clings.

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 10 March 2005 04:45 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost humans are funny creatures aren't they. i do things like that with regard to the issey miyake chappy too. although not deodorant, more so wine and teabags.

sandalwood is really nice. patchouli is ALL BADNESS though.

gem (trisk), Thursday, 10 March 2005 04:47 (fifteen years ago) link

I have stopped wearing body spray because I've noticed the scent is so unnoticeable on me now that it's not worth spending the $6 to purchase it (though I still kinda like using the travel-size ones for portable air fresheners). The perfume I wear now is something I had to get used to in order to really get into, but now that I'm used to it, I'm extremely happy with it -- okay, hold on, I need to look it up -- oh yeah, Shalimar by Guerlain, which is apparently also the first perfume my mom purchased for herself when she began to get into fancy perfumes. Which is, well, interesting I guess; I'm already turning into my mother?

Surreal Addiction (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 10 March 2005 04:47 (fifteen years ago) link

my mum and i totally have the same taste in perfume and we couldn't be more different in pretty much every other way

gem (trisk), Thursday, 10 March 2005 04:48 (fifteen years ago) link

I stuffed up before, the Rodier stuff is called Eau Intense, not pour homme, although they also make one by that name.

It says on the packaging that it contains the scent of:

Lemon Bouquet
Black Pepper
Ambery musky notes
and Vetyver

kate/thank you friendly cloud (papa november), Thursday, 10 March 2005 04:51 (fifteen years ago) link

And, well, I have no qualms about people using body sprays or more inexpensive scents or even scented oils. What I could not stand is the person who doesn't want to use any sort of body odor improvement at all. I could see the point of someone who uses a nice soap and a good deodorant/antiperspirant who just wants to stop at that, but I really, really cannot stand that "natural human" smell. To me, that reeks.


Well, gem hon, I don't know if it'll stop at that perfume thing. Honestly, I can actually see myself taking on certain traits of hers. The perfume thing seems to be a major signifier of the transformation.

Surreal Addiction (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 10 March 2005 04:52 (fifteen years ago) link

I love natural human smell. Nothing like your lovah's sweat after a shag, that smell is gold.

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 10 March 2005 04:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Homeless old man stink though - yuck blergh vom.

I am so put off by bad smells, that I've actually decided not to date guys I really liked otherwise. My bf has severely bad foot odour probs and I'm really struggling to deal with it. I hate it.

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 10 March 2005 04:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Guy next door to us never ever ever showers. I know this because we have never heard his shower once in the three years we've lived here and our bedroom wall is right next to his he smells terrible.

Theres this smell between urine, faeces and B.O that humans get. A clammy greasy kind of smell. He has that smell.

kate/thank you friendly cloud (papa november), Thursday, 10 March 2005 04:59 (fifteen years ago) link

ew. bad human smells make me dry retch (dry reach?) whatever that word is. in a big way, and completely uncontrollable.

but i agree, there is not much better than the nice smell that your lover has when you cuddle up to their back in bed. i can vaguely remember that ;)

gem (trisk), Thursday, 10 March 2005 05:01 (fifteen years ago) link

i now only wear kiehl's musk one. it's great.

Allyzay Dallas Multi-Pass (allyzay), Thursday, 10 March 2005 05:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Everyday: Body Shop Pink Pepper. Spicy but subtle, and refreshing in the summer.
Girly: Flower by Kenzo. It's really strong though, and you can smell it if there's someone on the same tube carriage wearing it.
New and posh: Kingdom by Alexander McQueen. The bottle is pretty and it was duty-free, and it's dead sophisticated like. Actually very nice indeed.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 10 March 2005 10:40 (fifteen years ago) link

i love perfume. i had to impose a purchasing ban on it last year, unfortunately, after i had amassed a shelf of rarely-used bottles with debt to match. right now i've got bulgari black, bulgari green, nars for women, an escada one that comes in a magenta bottle shaped kind of like the citibank building in nyc, dior's hypnotic poison, and lanvin's eclat d'arpege. i'm currently lusting after one of the weird numbered comme des garcons colognes - it smells like tar, but sexy.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 10 March 2005 14:35 (fifteen years ago) link

my mom wears opium, has since i was v. little. she wears it divinely, you have to be close to her to smell it. her chemistry works well with it. i only know 2 people that smell good with parfum or cologne. i like to sniff them. everyone else smells like fart, i swear.

ai lien (kold_krush), Thursday, 10 March 2005 14:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Sentiment, lauren? (The Escada. I don't know the building.)

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 10 March 2005 14:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Or Magnetism if the building is leany and curvy...

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 10 March 2005 14:50 (fifteen years ago) link

higher energy, yo.

it smells exactly the opposite to how i look. confuse the senses, yo, and the bitches will love you.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 10 March 2005 14:51 (fifteen years ago) link

i think it's magnetism, tep. i loved it first, but i don't wear it very often now because it gets way too chocolatey when it settles down.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 10 March 2005 15:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Am currently wearing Guerlain mentafollia, which is nice and minty. I'm a Guerlain only zone these days as far as perfume goes - my all time faves are Shalimar, Mitsouko and l'heure bleue.

leigh (leigh), Thursday, 10 March 2005 15:38 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm wearing the prada lately--I generally like it but it's still not perfect. That amarige sounds up my alley, I will look for that. Prada has a patchouli note which would normally send me screaming but it's nice, must be a good quality rather than the head shop crap I normally think of. Also it has sandalwood & amber, two of my favorites.

I want a tea + cedar + sandalwood + pepper I think.

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 10 March 2005 15:39 (fifteen years ago) link

I wish I could find some Guerlain Nahema. I had one of those tiny sample bottles of it but when I went to look for a regular bottle I could never find one.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Thursday, 10 March 2005 15:40 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm a Guerlain only zone these days - Leigh

I only have a tiny smidge of Mitsouko left in the old-school bottle given me by my beloved granny - only scent she ever wore. It's one of the few things I've got to remember her by now. She told me a story once about being stuck in a super-posh hotel room (in Singapore, I think) with some ultra-rich brats who were splashing Joy (bloody expensive) around like lemonade.

This afternoon I smell of garlic from my lunchtime salami. Hello, fellas!

Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 10 March 2005 16:02 (fifteen years ago) link

I still love the Body Shop's white musk, beloved of teenage girls in the early 1990s. I haven't smelled it in ages though, so maybe I'd have grown out of it. I perceive it as a childish scent, in any case.

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 10 March 2005 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I got samples of Kiehl's musk and their grapefruit essence, but they did not make me so happy. My favorite perfume, though--the fresh clean smell after bathing with one of Kiehl's body washes--preferably grapefruit, possibly lavender. I'm doing corriander at the moment, but it's not quite me. I read that perfume fades so easily (not a problem for me bc I am actually paranoid about smelling chemically and making others sick) that what you should do is layer a number of the same scent/product line in different formats: soap, lotion, perfume, etc. all smelling of X. I am too easily bored to make such a commitment though I think. There's an article in this week's New Yorker about creating a new scent for Hermes--some good perfume-techie stuff. I learned a new word--sillage--the scent that lingers after one leaves the room.

Mary (Mary), Friday, 11 March 2005 03:03 (fifteen years ago) link

does anyone remember that cheap perfume for 12 year old girls called "Tribe", circa 1990? i LOVED that.

phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 11 March 2005 03:11 (fifteen years ago) link

I wear Paul Smith (green bottle).

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Friday, 11 March 2005 03:19 (fifteen years ago) link

i like marc jacobs blush on girls

phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 11 March 2005 03:21 (fifteen years ago) link

The Scent of the Nile - a wonderful article on parfumers. I'm in the middle of it, but in case you want to start reading...

youn, Sunday, 13 March 2005 00:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh, I liked that article. I read it today at the gym - which was bad, because in the middle of my run I started cataloguing all of the unpleasnt gym smells.

Remy (null) (x Jeremy), Sunday, 13 March 2005 00:41 (fifteen years ago) link

sorry, 'perfumers' or 'parfumeurs.'

youn, Sunday, 13 March 2005 00:52 (fifteen years ago) link

I wear Angel Schlesser Por Hombre. Does that makes me teh ghey? Mark's reference to Body Shop white musk provoked a Proustian reaction in me. *sighs*

Adam Faithless (Adam Faithless), Sunday, 13 March 2005 01:10 (fifteen years ago) link

80% of scents make my nose bleed and I start clawing at my neck and wrists.

That said, I wear Annick Goutal's Petite Cherie, which only makes me sneeze 3 times when I spray it and I think it smells like pears, although it is described as: vanilla, peach, musk rose and freshly cut grass. Kind of weird, since I try to stay away from vanilla scents, but I love it.

S!monB!rch (Carey), Sunday, 13 March 2005 02:07 (fifteen years ago) link for me. Makes me smell like a sexy forest.

Remy (null) (x Jeremy), Sunday, 13 March 2005 03:08 (fifteen years ago) link

hmh.. since i last posted to this thread (in 2001) i've become intolerant to nearly everything except the body shop's white musk. oh well.

Kim (Kim), Sunday, 13 March 2005 03:44 (fifteen years ago) link

i have a new object of desire: nomad tea by comme des garcons. they seem to be incapable of making anything that smells less than delicious. will someone help me ram-raid the beauty hall at liberty?

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 14 March 2005 11:23 (fifteen years ago) link

eight months pass...
Should i wear Opium or Shalimar tomorrow night bearing in mind i'm hoping to pull?

leigh (leigh), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 15:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Haha I am very pleased there is a perfume called FRACAS! You should wear that.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 16:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Perhaps it would help set the scene if you told us which specific bar you were going to

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 16:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Wear Opium. They'll be unconscious within seconds of inhaling, so pulling will be a piece of cake.

Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 16:38 (fifteen years ago) link

I used to have a wee sample bottle of fracas, perhaps i should head along to harvey nicks after work and try and blag some.

I've got opium parfum, it's really strong.

leigh (leigh), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 16:47 (fifteen years ago) link

haha why does anyone BUY perfume anymore when there are free samples at sephora? (i hate perfume, but i apply the same principle to cosmetics.)

j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Last time I was at Sephora I got a sample of the new Paris Hilton perfume. That's so wrong, why can't I ever get a sample of something good?

Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:20 (fifteen years ago) link

I have yet to try it, I should put some on as an experiment and see if it has a siren-like skank effect.

Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Last time I was at Sephora I got a sample of the new SANTANA (as in, Carlos) perfume WTF?

quincie, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Three hours of grimacing guitar solos distilled into a 1/2 oz. bottle.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:27 (fifteen years ago) link

fracas is, disappointingly, an EXTREMELY strong old-lady floral.

i'm wearing comme des garcons red palisander at the moment. i never did get the nomad tea that i lusted after upthread, sigh.

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:35 (fifteen years ago) link

i think fracas smells delightful! if it had 90 dollars i might buy some. i don't think it's strong at all, not like, i dunno, YOUTH DEW.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:47 (fifteen years ago) link

any floral is too strong for me, really. it makes me want to gag. youth dew is totally overpowering, but i think estee lauder got tom ford in to do a revamp and one of the new items is a half-strength version.

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:51 (fifteen years ago) link


cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Youth Dew is the most vile scent on earth. Oh my god.

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:56 (fifteen years ago) link

isn't it? paradoxically, it's the odor of grandmother. when someone says PEEYOO chances are they smelled YOUTH DEW.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:58 (fifteen years ago) link

My grandmother wears Red Door which is 800x better than Youth Dew!!! Who greenlighted that nonsense? Yuck.

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Know what is the smell of grandfather? Aramis.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Old Spice!

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:08 (fifteen years ago) link

My mum wore youth dew when i was a kid and i hated it. She wore blue grass too which is just as bad.

I might got for mitsouko tonight and work on the object of my affection's limbic system.

leigh (leigh), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 09:29 (fifteen years ago) link

i love some perfumes, but only spicy, light styles ones. however today i'm wearing an old wooden bead necklace my grandma gave to me as a bracelet and it is infused with a perfume of hers that i do not like at all. i sprayed it liberally with my own perfume this morning (this didn't successfully mask the granny smell) and i've felt mildly guilty about not liking her perfume all day.

gem (trisk), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 09:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Lauren, i love Palisander. the whole red series is brilliant. i think Harissa is probably the one for me.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 10:38 (fifteen years ago) link


bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 10:55 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm wearing rive gauche this morning, perhaps i should just re-apply it tonight.

leigh (leigh), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 10:56 (fifteen years ago) link

I wear Paul Sebastian, thats it.

bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 10:58 (fifteen years ago) link

mmm... harissa. cdg are incapable of making bad perfume. the only one i'm not too keen on is burnt sugar, but even that's better than most other scents.

does estee lauder still make cinnabar? that was what my mother wore throughout my childhood.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 12:09 (fifteen years ago) link

What do you do when you're given a perfume you don't particularly like? My boss gave me a bottle of Chloe for my birthday and I'm not at all keen. I've taken to wearing it for work only, because work doesn't really count.

The absolute worst perfume I own is Oceanus from the body shop. It smells like Ferring on a cold day, yet I can't bring myself to bin it! It'll be the work only perfume after the Chloe's gone.

Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 12:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Odeur51 was a good idea but bad in reality (it smelt like baby milk on me!?) Odeur72 was much better, though.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 12:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm nearly out of my signature scent (Guerlain's Mitsouko). I am rationing myself until Christmas.

I wanted to buy my grandmother Bojour's Evening In Paris, which she used to love when she was my age (she tells me). It's been reissued in America, but the cheapest place I can find it won't let me buy it without giving a state. I don't have a state, or a Canadian province, because I live in the UK. It gave me a UK option in the pull down menu, but I still had to give a state. ARRRRGGGHHH>

Anna (Anna), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 12:20 (fifteen years ago) link

i mean 53 and 71 :s


jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 12:20 (fifteen years ago) link

As far as i know you can still get Cinnabar, i've got a bottle at home.

leigh (leigh), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 12:22 (fifteen years ago) link

i might be able to help you, anna.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 12:24 (fifteen years ago) link

You sound like a spy film L. But thanks.

Anna (Anna), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 12:30 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
versace noir
annick goutal le muguet
bulgari omnia crystalline

hell no:
annick goutal ce soir ou jamais
jo malone wild fig and cassis (and the new pomegranate one, sadly)
new edition youth dew (still reeks)

fragrance counters are very good for holiday shopping procrastination.

lauren (laurenp), Sunday, 18 December 2005 22:56 (fifteen years ago) link

I doubt I'd like Vetiver any more now than I like Chanel's Coco which I wore when I was 16 and thought I was chic. Now I think it smells like whore.

so true. i sprayed myself with a bit of coco, which i wore in high school, to see if i still liked it. it immediately put me in mind of the french prostitutes in the kids in the hall hotel la rut skit ("i am theenking of tony").

lauren (laurenp), Sunday, 18 December 2005 23:30 (fifteen years ago) link

I think my next perfume will be Chanel No. 5. After 40. How long can you keep perfume anyway? This bottle of Paris I had got so stale I had to throw it out. Anais Anais reminds me of high school and Molly Ringwald in Pretty in Pink.

youn, Sunday, 18 December 2005 23:34 (fifteen years ago) link

My sister asked for Jill Sander no. 4 EDP for Xams. I ordered it for her on-line so I haven't smelled it yet. Any one familiar w/...?

Mary (Mary), Monday, 19 December 2005 00:07 (fifteen years ago) link

i recently started wearing parfum for the first time ever, starting on thanksgiving. for years, i've always disliked any/all perfumes and other "stanks". people have ruined it for me by wearing insane amounts, etc etc. anyway, when my stepmom was over for thxgiving, she smelled so lovely, i was actually following her around and 'secretly' sniffing her. well, she caught on and introduced me to dior's addict. i was really skeptical, but she let me try some and it just worked. i mean, it seem to work well with my chemistry. and i have to admit, it made/makes me feel so womanly or feminine or something. so, yeah, christian dior's addict. lovely.

ai lien (kold_krush), Monday, 19 December 2005 06:43 (fifteen years ago) link

i've been wearing noa fleur for about a year.. it's floral, but not too heavy. i like rose, but i hate the grandmother tea rose thing, and this is nice because it gives you a hint of rose but it's mixed with other niceness and is not overpowering.
today, i bought a little bottl of the banana republic perfume on a whim - it is very fresh and clean smelling :)

tres letraj (tehresa), Monday, 19 December 2005 07:00 (fifteen years ago) link

I bought Britney Spears' perfume for my friend's xmas pressie as she likes it for some strange reason. Talk about a red face when i had to ask for it.

leigh (leigh), Monday, 19 December 2005 11:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Can any Mitsouko wearers tell me where I can find a bottle for less than forty quid?

Mädchen (Madchen), Monday, 19 December 2005 13:35 (fifteen years ago) link is cheap and ships anywhere in the world, however if you need it for christmas it is probably too late.

Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Monday, 19 December 2005 14:05 (fifteen years ago) link

You should be able to get Mitsouko for about £25 in the perfume shop, i think there's one in the Buchanan Galleries.

leigh (leigh), Monday, 19 December 2005 14:06 (fifteen years ago) link

The thing about Mitsouko though is that the difference in quality between the eau de toilette and the eau de parfam is massive, far more so than with other scents. You can get small bottles of the eau de toilette in Superdrug for about a tenner, but I think it lacks the clingy dark edge that makes the eau de parfam so great. (I know this is verging on the obsessive, but I've been wearing Mitsouko for years and it is an additcion.)

Anna (Anna), Monday, 19 December 2005 14:21 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm thinking of getting that new gualtier scent for the g/f - is it any good?

JohnFoxxsJuno (JohnFoxxsJuno), Monday, 19 December 2005 15:03 (fifteen years ago) link


JohnFoxxsJuno (JohnFoxxsJuno), Monday, 19 December 2005 15:05 (fifteen years ago) link

I think I'll go and buy a new perfume at lunch now that you've all held forth -- that sounds like something that would sweeten the day.

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 19 December 2005 15:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Can somebody confirm whether Fendi Donna is a man or womans scent??

Rumpie (lil drummer girl parumpumpumpu), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 13:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Santa hates me :-(

Rumpie (lil drummer girl parumpumpumpu), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 13:22 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't wear perfume because I am too poor to spend money on smells. But I like people who do.

Cathy (Cathy), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 13:24 (fifteen years ago) link

I need to get more l'heure bleue.

leigh (leigh), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 13:26 (fifteen years ago) link

This one looks and smells like a mans, I won it as a prize. It may just be a masculine ladies scent. The bottle gives no clues.

Rumpie (lil drummer girl parumpumpumpu), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 13:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Hey does anyone want to hear my theory about the difference between perfume and cologne?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 13:34 (fifteen years ago) link

I do

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 13:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Go on then. Excuse me while I drink my Fendi.

Rumpie (lil drummer girl parumpumpumpu), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 13:36 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't think you can drink cologne.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 13:38 (fifteen years ago) link

It's okay with lemonade....

Rumpie (lil drummer girl parumpumpumpu), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 13:42 (fifteen years ago) link

two years pass...

My signature smell is Chanel Chance. I like Allure Sensuelle and Coco too, though No. 5 smells like a grandma to me. So over DKNY Be Delicious at this point. I like Vera Wang Princess. I guess I tend to like "young! fresh!" smells, for better or worse. Embarrassingly, I even like the "Music" smell out of Gwen Stefani's LAMB line. When I feel like a grown-up (rare) I wear Givenchy Amarige.
My BF likes Thierry Mugler's "Angel" which at first I refused to wear, but it's grown on me. Kinda smells like cake or something on me for some reason.
I praise and sometimes wear cK one why because it lol 90s.
The worst thing I've ever smelled: tie between Paris Hilton's Heiress and P. Diddy's Unforgivable. Totally apt name on that last one.

roxymuzak, Thursday, 13 November 2008 21:02 (twelve years ago) link

Other smells that are lol 90s:


roxymuzak, Thursday, 13 November 2008 21:35 (twelve years ago) link

I remember a New Girl coming to my middle school and she had this awful, rubber factory-esque smell to her. It was unexlplicable, until one day I saw her with a bottle of Tribe. Wonder if Jaymc remembers her...

Granny Dainger, Thursday, 13 November 2008 21:55 (twelve years ago) link

Ad-Roc doesn't smell like any of those things.

nabisco, Thursday, 13 November 2008 22:07 (twelve years ago) link

exclamation... haw! i guess debbie gibson's electric youth fragrance was more late 80s, but i think of that in the same way.

lauren, Thursday, 13 November 2008 22:08 (twelve years ago) link

Angel is the absolute worst

gabbneb, Thursday, 13 November 2008 22:08 (twelve years ago) link

Ad Rock smelled like Axe!!

xpost neb, we are just not meant to be, i guess

roxymuzak, Thursday, 13 November 2008 22:12 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, i don't think maintaining a 10-foot distance would work

gabbneb, Thursday, 13 November 2008 22:13 (twelve years ago) link

So I can get a refund on this juicer?

nabisco, Thursday, 13 November 2008 22:14 (twelve years ago) link

I like the Jo Malone jasmine and mint but I end up sniffing my own wrists.

ljubljana, Thursday, 13 November 2008 22:14 (twelve years ago) link

Dibs on the juicer, unless neb wants it.

roxymuzak, Thursday, 13 November 2008 22:14 (twelve years ago) link

To juice some red apples.

roxymuzak, Thursday, 13 November 2008 22:15 (twelve years ago) link


gabbneb, Thursday, 13 November 2008 22:20 (twelve years ago) link

youre gross

roxymuzak, Thursday, 13 November 2008 22:21 (twelve years ago) link

You two are making me think I should hang on to the juicer

nabisco, Thursday, 13 November 2008 22:28 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

Well, Marc Jacobs Daisy smells like shit and I was stuck with it all day.

Also: when I got paid the other day I went to the perfume counter and bought a GIANT cK one. I will be lol 90s til I die, I guess.

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Monday, 15 December 2008 10:06 (twelve years ago) link

I've been using a sample of Stella by Stella McCartney lately. Hope to get a gift card for xmas to buy it with.

Not Everyone Can Be Tupac (Susan), Monday, 15 December 2008 14:39 (twelve years ago) link

atm it's l'occitane's green tea for me.

jed_, Monday, 15 December 2008 14:47 (twelve years ago) link

i love perfume so much. it doesn't have to be stinky and artificial.

my two every day scents are l'artisan premier figuier extreme (notes of fig, fig leaf, milk of almond, sandalwood, coconut) and les nereides musc de java (notes of light musk, berries, blackcurrant, violet leaves, sage, fresh cut hay)

i just found out via my mother who is awful at keeping secrets that i am getting a full bottle of serge luten chergui for x-mas

homosexual II, Monday, 15 December 2008 14:50 (twelve years ago) link

i love l'artisan stuff. no more perfume for me until i use up most of my gigantic bottle of bulgari red tea, but i really want mure et musc extreme or premier figuier.

lauren, Monday, 15 December 2008 15:03 (twelve years ago) link

roxy is it like one of those small 375 ml Jim Beam sizes? I have seen those & they are rad.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 15 December 2008 18:22 (twelve years ago) link

I wear Delices de Cartier because it smells vaguely like cherries to me.

craven, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 02:24 (twelve years ago) link

Yep, Abbott! I got the same size cK one lotion, too. :X

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 02:53 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

^Is growing on me, but I feel like it doesn't suit me for a reason that is difficult to put into words.

What do y'all think about Kenneth Cole Black?

roxymuzak, Monday, 2 February 2009 04:22 (twelve years ago) link

i cannot get behind any perfume. it all smells really bad on me.

tacos, fettucini, linguini, martini, bikini. (sunny successor), Monday, 2 February 2009 04:25 (twelve years ago) link

Pretty sure I love this too, but I do not own it yet.

roxymuzak, Monday, 2 February 2009 04:28 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

Recommend me something manly.

weight and bulk are your enemies (Ned Trifle II), Saturday, 25 April 2009 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

That is a perfume.

weight and bulk are your enemies (Ned Trifle II), Saturday, 25 April 2009 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

I dated a guy who wore Kenneth Cole Black and I loved to smell him.

tuppence b. bag (roxymuzak), Saturday, 25 April 2009 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

Haha, What do y'all think about Kenneth Cole Black?

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tuppence b. bag (roxymuzak), Saturday, 25 April 2009 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

I dated a guy who wore Kenneth Cole Black and I loved to smell him.

Yes, that is what I need! Mrs. T loves Blenheim from Penhaligan's which is really for men of a certain age I think, and although I am OLD it's just a bit too Prince of Charles for me. Anyone read Amazing the different 'notes' people get from the same perfume. Such as aforementioned Kenneth Cole Black.

weight and bulk are your enemies (Ned Trifle II), Saturday, 25 April 2009 22:29 (eleven years ago) link

I am a fan of this also.

weight and bulk are your enemies (Ned Trifle II), Saturday, 25 April 2009 22:33 (eleven years ago) link

All those Penhaglions smells are great and interesting, but yeah, most seem a little mature.

Some of those people are OTM re: Black, though. It really does smell like tobacco, smoke and mint, only nicer.

I read somewhere that the main note in Chanel's Chance (what I wear almost every day) is hyacinth, and I never realized that before, but it completely explains why I love Chance so much. When I was a little kid, I went behind our house and found a patch of hyacinths growing, sniffed them and proclaimed them "the coolest thing I have ever smelled." I've always been crazy about both scents, but never really connected the two.

tuppence b. bag (roxymuzak), Saturday, 25 April 2009 22:38 (eleven years ago) link

he first study to indicate that chemical signals play a role in attraction was conducted by Claud Wedekind over a decade ago. Forty-four men wore the same T-shirt for three days. They refrained from deodorants and scented soaps so they wouldn’t interfere with their natural smell. Women then sniffed the shirts and indicated which ones smelled the best to them. By comparing the DNA of the women and men, the researchers found that women didn’t just choose their favorite scent randomly. They preferred the scent of man whose major histocompatibility complex (MHC) -- a series of genes involved in our immune system -- was most different from their own.

Researchers knew to look at the MHC because of its importance in animal’s sexual preferences. In mice, it has long been known that MHC not only helps ward off infection, but it also plays a role in scent and mate selection.

From an evolutionary perspective, choosing a mate with a different immune system makes survival sense. Kids of parents with different immune genes are more likely to be disease-resistant and are therefore more likely to survive. The women in this study also reported liking the scents that reminded them of their current or previous boyfriends, showing that MHC attraction is consistent. And because MHC profiles differ greatly from one person to the next, there is no universally “good” smell. One woman’s Romeo was another woman’s raunchy.

By all means kill the bacterial odors. But our native scent is part of who and what we are.

I've never wanted to have sex with a flower.

derelict, Saturday, 25 April 2009 23:03 (eleven years ago) link

What about a person who smells like one.

tuppence b. bag (roxymuzak), Saturday, 25 April 2009 23:37 (eleven years ago) link

do not care for most perfumes/colognes -- really strong ones make me ill. i'm more of a "small dab of essential oil" chick.

i buy unscented products (beauty/hygiene products, cleaning products) whenever possible, but like i said, if it's a small bit of essential oil rather than a chemical "fragrance," that's fine.

i am david suzuki (get bent), Sunday, 26 April 2009 01:11 (eleven years ago) link

eight months pass...

i think i'm going back to Gaultier 2 for nighttime, and clinique Happy for day.

Do you love me now? (surm), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 01:20 (eleven years ago) link

I wear essential oils for the most part--usually something with vanilla in it (sandalwood vanilla, lavender vanilla, etc.) For some reason, if I don't have a touch of vanilla in my scent, it fades too quickly.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 03:15 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

I'd like start wearing an essential oil or two, but I can never pick.

billion holla baby (roxymuzak), Sunday, 7 February 2010 18:10 (eleven years ago) link

Chanel's Coco and No. 19 are my favorites. I guess I like to smell like whore.

In hot weather, I've done Clarins' Elysium (sadly discontinued), Alfred Sung's Pure (ditto, I think), and Carolina Herrera's 212. Think I'd like to get my hands on some Elysium again. Can't do the Chanels when it is hot out.

quincie, Monday, 8 February 2010 13:04 (eleven years ago) link

You know, re weather, I was just thinking; I don't really think about perfume in the winter, more about soaps and lotions. Perfume is def a spring/warm weather pursuit for me, and I think I'll come back and take some ideas from this thread in the spring. :)

Let's see how tough Aquaman is once we get him in the water. (Laurel), Monday, 8 February 2010 15:23 (eleven years ago) link

I totally think about perfume in the winter. What else does an atheist want with frankincense oil?

Also from the department of HOORAY, they brought back Donna Karan Chaos.

spay or neuter your blue dog (suzy), Monday, 8 February 2010 16:15 (eleven years ago) link

i think about it in the winter too. it's hard to justify smelling like wood any other time, and spring is for dirt and flowers and green. i honestly usually spare summer because i am terrified of bees.

figgy pudding (La Lechera), Monday, 8 February 2010 16:25 (eleven years ago) link

My winter routine is: Prada lotion or cocoa butter, frankincense oil or Chaos or Comme des Garcons Avignon. Bees don't usually trouble me in the summer because I don't wear big floral fragrances. I will also go for anything with cedar oil in it when wearing wool because it's the only thing moths hate that smells good.

spay or neuter your blue dog (suzy), Monday, 8 February 2010 16:38 (eleven years ago) link

I don't wear colognes or perfume to work generally. I think I am too PC on this level, I don't want to offend anyone with allergies or oversensitive olfactory senses. What I wear off the clock: In the pricey category: Chanel 19 (a green scent) & 5 warmer sweet; Boucheron (warm sweet with some spice). Drugstore cheap: Love's babysoft mist (kinda baby powder with a little floral). Have worn it since I was a teenager <a VERY long time ago>!

I have never been bothered by bees attracted to perfume, but maybe it's because I am not in the bees environment too often.

I really like the ideas of cedar oil - it smells nice and earthy with the added benefit of no moths! Great idea!

Wiggywoo, Monday, 8 February 2010 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

Oh wait I do have a bottle of Chanel No. 5 but tbh it was a press freebie, scent of it gets on everything and not in a good way.

spay or neuter your blue dog (suzy), Monday, 8 February 2010 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

I'm still a Guerlain fan got L'heure bleue, Chamade, Mitsouko, Nahema, Apres le ondee, chant des aromes, Jicky, Shalimar, mouchoir de monsieur, petit guerlain, vol de nuit plus a few aqua allegoria lighter scents and some of the modern ones that i've got as presents. Have branched out a bit with Feminite du bois by Serge Lutens, Bandit and Fracas by Robert Piguet, Ivorie and Jolie Madam by Balmain, Femme, tocade and madame rochas by Rochas and a couple of Sonia Rykiel scents. Fancy trying Cuir de Russie by Chanel but I think it's only available in Chanel boutiques for ££££££££££.

leigh, Monday, 8 February 2010 16:56 (eleven years ago) link

I have waaaaaaaaaaaaay too much perfume.

leigh, Monday, 8 February 2010 16:56 (eleven years ago) link

cedar oil sounds really good. i'm going to try that.

billion holla baby (roxymuzak), Sunday, 14 February 2010 03:10 (eleven years ago) link

l'occitane green tea, l'occitane green tea with jasmine and l'occitane bergamot tea.

i suppose i just like smelling like tea but i ALWAYS get compliments on these fragrances when i wear them.

jed_, Sunday, 14 February 2010 03:20 (eleven years ago) link

I used to really like Jean Paul Gaultier, but I was wearing it today and it just reminded me of Faygo grape soda or rock n rye.

ô_o (Nicole), Sunday, 14 February 2010 03:30 (eleven years ago) link

eleven months pass...

jessica simpson has a perfume called 'fancy nights' which I think is an awesome name. if the insert in vogue is accurate it smells like getting mugged by grandma.

teeny, Thursday, 20 January 2011 03:09 (ten years ago) link

five months pass...

L'Artisan Parfumeur have a sale on at the moment as they're discontinuing some of their bottles / fragrances. Tea For Two is a real bargain at £25 / $57 for 50ml.

I've been watching the BBC4 documentary series on fragrances and it seems to have triggered my inner perfume geek.

модный хипстер (ShariVari), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 19:45 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

i have grown to love gaultier le male!

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 19:26 (seven years ago) link

I love Frédéric Malle Bigerade Concentrée and wear it pretty much every day

ship who you wanna ship (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 23:21 (seven years ago) link

i worry sometimes that i'm just completely indiscriminate when it comes to scents, because I love so many. There are some that I dislike, even hate, but I really just love the whole concept of perfume, and there are so many wonderful smells in the world.

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 23:54 (seven years ago) link


meketaten, Thursday, 22 August 2013 00:27 (seven years ago) link

I am curious about Frédéric Malle. A woman came into my store the other week wearing Portrait of a Lady, and it smelled so lovely.

I am also curious about the various perfumes from Etat Libre d'Orange (although not Sécrétions Magnifiques, that sounds horrible) but I am slightly intimidated about going into to the store that stocks it.

tokyo rosemary, Thursday, 22 August 2013 00:37 (seven years ago) link

I really like Etat Libre d'Orange.

I don't know if it's the same in the US, but some of the online stores that stock it will sell you twenty samples and let you get a discount, to the value of the samples, if you buy a full bottle.

I have Encens et Bubblegum (which is self-explanatory) and Rien (which is quite a bold, powdery leather). A lot of their fragrances are more interesting in theory than in practice so the sample route is a good one to go down.

In my experience, some of the stores that stock their stuff really don't like the brand for some reason.

Serge Lutens is also great, of course.

Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Thursday, 22 August 2013 11:41 (seven years ago) link

I miss my days of wearing cologne. My main scent was a really cheap one: OP Juice!

The bottle had a weird rubber outer covering that made it feel like a sex toy, but if you accidentally dropped it on the ground it wouldn't break. However, that little tab on the nozzle would always break off, so I'd have to depress it with a key or a pen cap or something. Went through three bottles of the stuff in the early 2000s. Smelled like cucumbers, bergamot, with a hint of cardamom? A really good fresh springtime/summertime scent. My wife hated it and said it smelled synthetic. I don't believe her, but I don't wear it anymore either.

how's life, Thursday, 22 August 2013 12:04 (seven years ago) link

i worry sometimes that i'm just completely indiscriminate when it comes to scents, because I love so many. There are some that I dislike, even hate, but I really just love the whole concept of perfume, and there are so many wonderful smells in the world.

― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Wednesday, August 21, 2013 6:54 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

AGREE!! a million times agree. i think i only generally dislike fruity scents but grapefruit notes are usually ok. lemon sometimes. i love most non-noxious smells.

no fomo (La Lechera), Thursday, 22 August 2013 13:26 (seven years ago) link

I am curious about Frédéric Malle

At Barney's they have those smelly tubes you can dunk your head into and really get into those scents. To be honest I'm not a big fan of most Frédéric Malle but the Bigerade is really, really special. Orange peel.

I also like the alcohol-free Le Labo, I forget what it's called, but it's good for kids, like, designed for your baby. I've three times given it as gifts to the parents of my godkids/nieces and they've loved it.

I met a guy in 2005 and he was wearing a really intensely beautiful cologne, it was really intense. It converted me from the "wearing cologne is vain" to the "wearing cologne is a treat for yourself and those around you". I tried to smell-remember the scent he was wearing because I was too shy to ask him what it was. Years later, I found it-- Creed "Silver Mountain Water"-- designed for Grace Kelly, I think?-- smells like honeysuckle (but I'm told it's actually black currant). Apparently Bowie is famous for wearing it. I have a small bottle but I'm rarely in a situation where it is called for, it's pretty flamboyant.

Creed stuff is all really good but prohibitively expensive :( I treat myself every few years when I'm in London. I like Millesme and Vetiver.

ship who you wanna ship (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 22 August 2013 13:48 (seven years ago) link

oh, that sounds amazing. bowie tidbit doesn't hurt. i want to smell it!

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Thursday, 22 August 2013 13:51 (seven years ago) link

how far are we from smellovision, as a culture

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Thursday, 22 August 2013 13:51 (seven years ago) link

I wear Floris "Eau de Santal"...haven't spent much time smelling around, but most non-luxury men's fragrances smell like a teenager's shower gel ime so I'm happy with the one I have.

Francois Toofo (seandalai), Thursday, 22 August 2013 13:57 (seven years ago) link

Also nervous of getting super into fragrances because ££££.

Francois Toofo (seandalai), Thursday, 22 August 2013 13:57 (seven years ago) link

It is such big business, too! If ever I make that hit record the first thing I'm gonna do is design and market a scent

ship who you wanna ship (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 22 August 2013 14:18 (seven years ago) link

There are lots of good non-luxe scents around that can be picked up really cheaply at discount places. Bulgari Black is lovely and i think i paid about £15 for a bottle a couple of years ago.

You can also get great mid-range ones(Comme des Garcons, Etat Libre d'Orange, Miller Harris, Guerlin, etc) without paying astronomical prices.

The Luca Turin / Tania Sanchez guide is a good starting point for suggestions.

Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Thursday, 22 August 2013 14:47 (seven years ago) link

whatever happened to the nose who posted here? was that person for real?

no fomo (La Lechera), Thursday, 22 August 2013 14:48 (seven years ago) link

Oh many I love perfumes but my love have been stifled upon obtaining a sneezy spouse.

quincie, Thursday, 22 August 2013 22:32 (seven years ago) link

feel like the time is right for me to start enjoying a good basic scent. i'm really cheap though. wonder if there's anything ok under 50 bucks.

maven maven (Matt P), Thursday, 22 August 2013 22:42 (seven years ago) link

Oh yes, definitely! Do you have some idea of what you like/don't like?

quincie, Thursday, 22 August 2013 23:00 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

there needs to be a Shazam for perfume! sometimes i smell something so good and want to know what it is without asking, or i don't know who to ask. also sometimes i smell someone that smells terrible and i want to be sure to avoid their perfume at all costs.

jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Monday, 1 December 2014 20:38 (six years ago) link

has anyone tried scents that purposely smell like bodily fluids like Secretions Magnifiques? from a customer review:

THE SCENT: It's fear sweat. Hot, semi-sour, salty, and immediately recognizable from human evolution. I'm frightened to ask how they achieved this! It's also sickness, something sick and hot and possibly dead nearby. Blood? Maybe in the saltiness, maybe the sour tang has a pinch of blood too but mostly it's the smell of fear to me. In less emotionally-linked terms about an hour later, it does smell like LOW TIDE FISHINESS/SALT + MILK left in the sun to spoil.

slam dunk, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 05:45 (six years ago) link

i don't want to smell like bloody jizz btw i'm just intrigued by the idea of conceptual art fragrance. i wish you could get a box of a bunch of little samples of them like the harry potter jellybeans.

slam dunk, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 05:48 (six years ago) link

yeaaaahhh nope

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 06:41 (six years ago) link

favorite perfume ever is Lolita Lempicka

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 06:42 (six years ago) link

too cheap to buy a new bottle at the moment so I googled around for similar-smelling perfumes and bizarrely found out that the consensus was on Jessica Simpson's 'Fancy' now discontinued & available at every Ross/TJMaxx for like $10. It's not perfect, but it's pretty close. Has nowhere near the staying power though. Lolita Lempicka, it was good for the whole day if you put it on in the morning

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 06:44 (six years ago) link

funnest thing is ppl saying ooh you smell good and telling them I'm wearing some Chicken of the Sea Jessica Simp perfume :D

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 06:45 (six years ago) link

You used to be able to get a box of little samples from Etat Libre d'Orange! A lot of places would credit the cost against a full bottle so they were effectively free. I'm not sure if they still do that, or whether Secretions Magnifiques is still one of them, but it's worth checking. It doesn't smell great, tbh, but a lot of their other ones are very good.

Lolita Lempicka is terrific too. I need to get another bottle of that.

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 07:37 (six years ago) link

i have asked strangers what scent they are wearing. mixed results.

kobaïas fünke (clouds), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 07:39 (six years ago) link

i don't usually like fragrances, but i've been wearing tokyo milk's gin and rosewater. it's young, fresh, and not too heavy, as long as i apply it with a bit of restraint.

Highland-Camrose Bungalow Village (get bent), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 10:29 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

After a 18 months on it and I'm still addicted to it I guess I'm Philosykos for life now. I don't think I'll ever get tired of it. It's damn expensive but then the last bottle of the parfum, which is manlier I think than the toilette, did last me 8 months or so, so.... It's a bit of a hit shelling out the cash when you do need to though.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Friday, 23 January 2015 01:06 (six years ago) link

It is a little sad to be with someone who sneezes at every perfume I own/love.

Fragrance also an absolute no-no at new gig.

Missing u, fancy smells.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 23 January 2015 01:27 (six years ago) link


difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 January 2015 01:38 (six years ago) link

I love the nose who created Philosykos, Olivia Giacobetti. She did two of my favorites: En Passant (for Frederic Malle) and Ofresia (Diptyque). I have a sample of Philosykos but it's too woody for me, but I love it on others.

My current fave is Geranium Odorata (also Diptyque. I get so many compliments on it) and my all-time favorite is L'Eau d'Hiver (Jean-Claude Ellena for Frederic Malle).

kate78, Friday, 23 January 2015 18:38 (six years ago) link

i got a sample of molecule 01 by escentual molecules - i layered it with flower by kenzo, and it's a nice combo, but i don't think it's any better than the kenzo on its own. def not as mindblowingly unique as i was led to believe.

just1n3, Friday, 23 January 2015 18:52 (six years ago) link

i had a subscription with olfactif for a few months, hoping to find a new scent, but i found most of them really really repulsive - like, outright unpleasant.

just1n3, Friday, 23 January 2015 18:55 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

I think i'm getting into fragrances! I just bought a v small bottle of Maison Martin Margiela (untitled) which is like SO green and grassy with undertones of musk, omg, so good! Also v much into Comme des Garcons Sherbet: Rhubarb (on fgti's recommendation) and it really smells like rhubarb! It's like tart and sweet and so intersting, I love it so! I've also got a small sample of Terre d'Hermes which on paper was interestingly bitter and hyper-woody (like pine sap) but on my skin just smells like a very pleasant but very approachable men's cologne

I'm about to order like 6 Comme des Garcons samples from luckyscent (2, Odeur 53, Odeur 71, Amazingreen, Guerrilla 1, Guerrilla 2) and am v excited to try them out.

I'm really into things that are not assertively masculine or feminine and are also really strange and unique, like "oh wow I would never imagine they would make a perfume smell like THAT but I quite like it!". Numerous ppl have also recommended that I check otu CB I Hate Perfume which I am going to sample next time I'm in NYC

but yeah am v new to all of this and am open to any recommendations of grassy + musk, or just intriguing and unique gender-neutral frags of all types

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 16 March 2015 15:42 (five years ago) link

rly I just want to smell like the weirdo that I already am

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 16 March 2015 15:42 (five years ago) link

Commes des Garcons Wonderwood is really nice - been wearing that for a while. In the recent past I've also worn Clinique's Happy and Chanel for men.

I also have a few of those Demeter "fragrance library" things - the "dirt" one is quite good, kinda smells like a forest floor, but in a good way. I got some in Duane Read last time I was in NYC - some are more for use in rooms rather than on yourself, though it can be hard to decide about this. A lot of them are quite generic smells that get used in theatre, by Punchdrunk or other interactive companies - kinda depends how much you want to smell like "rain" or "bubblegum".

I bought one called "funeral home" to try and see if I would actually wear it, it sort of smells like cold sad memories of death - lily and chemicals - prob more a curio than anything else.

They're worth messing around with though, some of them make quite good and unusual scents.

Junior Dictionary (LocalGarda), Monday, 16 March 2015 16:05 (five years ago) link

stevie i think you may enjoy BPAL
this is a good way to sample
i had a severe problem for a while but then i switched to making my own blends

groundless round (La Lechera), Monday, 16 March 2015 16:24 (five years ago) link has really good deals, but i don't think they offer any indie stuff.

stevie, i'm really getting into perfumes, too! i generally prefer unisex/neutral scents to really strong masculine or feminine ones as well.

just1n3, Monday, 16 March 2015 16:34 (five years ago) link

i tried the ineke library sample box, which comes in beautiful packaging, but the scents are all really really soapy :/

just1n3, Monday, 16 March 2015 16:35 (five years ago) link

stevie give guerlain vetiver a sniff and tell me what you think!

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Monday, 16 March 2015 20:49 (five years ago) link

Quite enjoyed a sample set of Murdock's colognes -

djh, Monday, 16 March 2015 22:35 (five years ago) link

xp I will track down this Guerlain Vetiver if I can find it!

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 14:31 (five years ago) link

Quite enjoyed a sample set of Murdock's colognes -

i used to get my hair cut here - these are nice

Junior Dictionary (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 14:36 (five years ago) link

I almost looked for a fragrance thread last week!

I am very much uncultured when it comes to perfume/cologne, but I definitely feel like I have some strong preferences when it comes to scents.

Very interested in Commes des Garcons' interest in non-standard fragrances. Wondering what Odeur 53 smells like.

mh, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 14:57 (five years ago) link

If you are interested in smelling like modern furniture this is cool

mh, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 14:58 (five years ago) link

those kind of scents are the best imo. i mean it's nice to have a fairly affordable daily thing that smells like you've just showered, but mainly you want your clothes to accumulate some kind evocative musk that people aren't sure is a scent.

Junior Dictionary (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 15:01 (five years ago) link

I stopped wearing fragrance when I was pregnant because puuuuuuuuke, then I didn't start again when the baby was an infant because it majorly weirds me out when she smells like something other than herself, but I have been feeling like I want to smell like something again. Of course right about the time I made that decision, we got a firm-wide email asking us to refrain from using "chemical scents" although it was very vague as far as whether that pertained to like air fresheners or personal care products or if it is the latter, putting them on at work versus putting them on at home. I think it's more of a "be considerate" kind of thing.

I've been using White Rabbit from BPAL as my main smell for a few years. Maybe I'd like to branch out? Body chemistry does change after childbirth/breastfeeding/when we get older. I'm not sure what I'd like to smell like, though. Something... interesting.

Anyway, good call reviving this thread, Stevie.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 15:03 (five years ago) link

mainly you want your clothes to accumulate some kind evocative musk that people aren't sure is a scent.

YES! Exactly so!

My mom has used Clinique Aromatics Elixer for my entire life and even when she doesn't wear it, her ~~aura~~ seems to carry that essence and I love it. I want people to associate a smell with me.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 15:04 (five years ago) link

A good smell, I should say.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 15:05 (five years ago) link

babies smell kind of nice when they don't smell like poop

mh, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 15:24 (five years ago) link

Non poop smelling babies smell amazing! Baby head is the best smell. I wonder if the maternity ward will let me borrow a baby to sniff at lunchtime.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 15:29 (five years ago) link

I don't want to smell like baby, though.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 15:30 (five years ago) link

No, I'm not suggesting that. I think that was in reference to you mentioning that it weirds you out when she smells not like herself!

This is my all time favorite perfume:

This stuff is also great:

And in summer I love this . . . oh no! My favorite summer scent by Lush is no more. This is bad.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 15:38 (five years ago) link

I know you weren't! I was making a joke as dry as baby powder.

Which Lush? I used their orange flower water Guerrilla Scent for awhile, but although it smelled great in the little sampler vial I got, it never smelled the same coming out of the spray bottle, and now it's years old and I should really throw it away.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 15:48 (five years ago) link

speaking of lush, their 'grass' products smell great imo -- sandalwood and chlorophyll

groundless round (La Lechera), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 15:50 (five years ago) link

i unabashedly love patchouli oil

marcos, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 15:57 (five years ago) link

Local Garda, you really need to check out Philosykos if you like unconventional fragrances.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 16:02 (five years ago) link

I will investigate.

Junior Dictionary (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 16:25 (five years ago) link

CA it was this one: and it was really interesting nice for summer. I think this summer I just want to smell like the beach.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 18:35 (five years ago) link

For which this is supposed to be very good:

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 18:36 (five years ago) link

Vetiver? Frederic Malle "Vetiver Extraordinaire" is my current fave eau de parfum. I always stock up when I visit France. It's way overpriced here in the States.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 18:46 (five years ago) link

OMG OMG OMG my cute tiny bottle of Maison Martin Margiela (untitled) just arrived and I am so elated!!!! It's so green and delightful and I lost the tester I had years ago and I cannot stop smelling my wrists. It's so pleasant and delightful and not v assertive and I think I might make this my signature daily frag! My only quip is it dries down to like a cinnamon/bubblegum smell but it's still so great. It's a dabber and not a sprayer so I am legit considering investing in one of these:

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 19 March 2015 15:58 (five years ago) link

stevie d: ebay is great place to find people selling samples or small aliquots of scents that sound interesting without having to commit to a full bottle.

kate78, Thursday, 19 March 2015 16:14 (five years ago) link

yeah that's where I got this lil baby bottle!!! it is SO CUTE TOO, I just have to post a picture

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 19 March 2015 16:37 (five years ago) link

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 19 March 2015 16:45 (five years ago) link

I wanted to spend a day w/ each of these CdG frags and let u kno but the prob is I have absolutely no clue how to write about frags.

Also they come in these teeeeensy tiny little vials with a toothpick-like dabber built into each cap, so I'm not really sure how to properly apply them bcz dabbing them with the dabber puts SO little on.

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 12:35 (five years ago) link

imo take the end of the vial, press it against your skin and flip it upside down and then back. you should have a little circle of fragrance that you can then rub

mh, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 13:59 (five years ago) link

yeah but even that puts such a small amt on, i mean this opening is V V tiny, but I think I will just do that a few times

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 14:06 (five years ago) link

yeah just put the palm of your hand over the bottle and flip it a few times

Junior Dictionary (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 14:08 (five years ago) link

OK here's what I will tell you

Comme des Garcons BLACK: this is a Very Serious Cologne. I smell like a humorless doctor or a funeral director, like someone stern and smug who maybe makes a lot of money and dresses conservatively. It doesn't smell bad per se but it is just totally not ~me~. It is has no joy; it is not fun in the least. I was expecting it to be kind of cool or modern but it's not really any of those things.

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 15:17 (five years ago) link

It doesn't even smell interesting!

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 15:17 (five years ago) link

I ordered some BLACK, lol. I AM SERIOUS MAN, STEVIE!!

mh, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 15:49 (five years ago) link

btw I am going to wear it in my Lexus

mh, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 15:49 (five years ago) link

xp wait did you rly order some?

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 15:59 (five years ago) link

yes, as a "I can wear this and norms at work will like it" selection

mh, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 16:11 (five years ago) link

I, in fact, ran it past some work norms and they liked it

mh, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 16:12 (five years ago) link

mh please please tell me what you think of this frag, I am dying to discuss it w/ someone else who knows what it smells like. What does it smell like to you note-wise? What does it evoke for you?

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 16:22 (five years ago) link

my dad sent me a bottle of this amazing expensive italian cologne santa maria novella and it is the best thing i have ever smelled in my life

the fuckin catalina wine mixer (sleepingbag), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 17:47 (five years ago) link

I will wait until I am hovering over the vial to document my experiences and will do so soonb

mh, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 19:20 (five years ago) link

what other frags did you order?

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 19:51 (five years ago) link

well that is the only bottle, I also like green and uh wood? I forget

mh, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 19:57 (five years ago) link

amazingreen? wonderwood?

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 19:58 (five years ago) link

or the Play Green?

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 19:59 (five years ago) link

Odeur 53

mh, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 20:04 (five years ago) link

btw I already have a bottle of Standard

mh, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 20:05 (five years ago) link

I just ordered a bunch of tiny samples! I've worn the same fragrance for years and this thread got me thinking it's time to have a bit more fun with smells.

kriss akabusi cleaner (seandalai), Thursday, 26 March 2015 01:30 (five years ago) link

wonderwood is amazing. all-time classic.

Junior Dictionary (LocalGarda), Thursday, 26 March 2015 01:42 (five years ago) link

Odeur 53: jfc what is this? this is very, VERY feminine. Does not feel particularly "avant-garde" or interesting or anything, it just smells like a not-unpleasant lady's perfume but not something I would ever choose to wear.

I think I am going to go wsh this off.

mh I NEED yr 2c abt this frag

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 26 March 2015 12:39 (five years ago) link

wish I got a Wonderwood sample! maybe I'll go to the CdG store in Chelsea and spritz a little spritz while I'm in NY this weekend.

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 26 March 2015 12:39 (five years ago) link

this whole fragrance adventure is making me think a lot though, like who are these for? Who are these ppl that use all of these weird words (nail polish! burnt rubber! desert sand! gasoline!) to describe this ultimately kind of regular-smelling perfume?? Maybe this is "avant-garde" to ppl who are immersed in this world but to someone who does not wear frags it smells v reg and not at all the "Oh huh, isn't THAT interesting!" that I thought I was going to get from this.

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 26 March 2015 13:00 (five years ago) link

also learning that you can get a sense for a thing when you read about film, about music, about food, about art, about books, about virtually any type of thing that people would write about descriptively or evocatively, but basically everything you read about a fragrance will be complete bullshit and is way, WAY farther removed from experiencing the product for yrself than any of the above mediums. The concept I formed in my head of these smells from reading about them smells absolutely nothing like the smell itself smells to me; language seems completely ineffective in representing these things. Maybe that's what makes it cool. I mean, what other objects in the world are absolutely impossible to experience even vicariously w/o engaging w/ the object itself? You can look at a photograph of a sculpture, you can read a synopsis of a film and a breakdown of its cinematic techniques, but what of smells?

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 26 March 2015 13:09 (five years ago) link

You should read The Emperor of Scent by Chandler Burr. It's really interesting and satisfying.

groundless round (La Lechera), Thursday, 26 March 2015 13:12 (five years ago) link

this might be something you would find interesting, arts festival that did a scent/audio/visual thing:

mh, Thursday, 26 March 2015 13:32 (five years ago) link

last vestiges of my head cold were acting up last night, didn't think I would get a good read (sniff?) so you'll have to wait a bit

stevie, are you smelling these on their own or on you for each? they smell diff on people than on their own

mh, Thursday, 26 March 2015 13:34 (five years ago) link

on a somewhat unrelated note, it's interesting to me how closely I associate certain smells with memories

In certain contexts, Chanel No. 5 makes me really angry now due to past experience

mh, Thursday, 26 March 2015 13:36 (five years ago) link

nah I'm putting them on and then commuting to work and sitting in my cube and thinking abt how I smell rn

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 26 March 2015 13:37 (five years ago) link

everyone who has a sense of smell closely associates smells with memory! it's a powerful trigger.

groundless round (La Lechera), Thursday, 26 March 2015 13:37 (five years ago) link

You should really read that book Stevie

The Emperor of Scent tells of the scientific maverick Luca Turin, a connoisseur and something of an aesthete who wrote a bestselling perfume guide and bandied about an outrageous new theory on the human sense of smell. Drawing on cutting-edge work in biology, chemistry, and physics, Turin used his obsession with perfume and his eerie gift for smell to turn the cloistered worlds of the smell business and science upside down, leading to a solution to the last great mystery of the senses: how the nose works.

groundless round (La Lechera), Thursday, 26 March 2015 13:42 (five years ago) link

xp yeah! frags seem way more of a subjective means-to-an-end than any other medium, less abt what they actually smell like and more abt how that smell makes you feel. v powerful stuff.

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 26 March 2015 13:44 (five years ago) link

ugh god I just smell like I gave my grandma a big hug or like some jackass aggressively sprayed me with a perfume that is v much not mine; i don't want to wear Odeur 53 anymore.

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 26 March 2015 13:49 (five years ago) link

I like that one but I can't imagine wearing it full time

just pretend you are John Waters right now

mh, Thursday, 26 March 2015 13:57 (five years ago) link

yeah I am trying that and it is just totally not working.

what does it evoke for you? what does it smell like to you?

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 26 March 2015 14:47 (five years ago) link

again, I'll want to smell again with a clear head, but I got kind of a clean baby smell, crossed with a little bit of a musty-but-not-unpleasant vibe, with kind of a kicker of overripe fruit that you left in the garbage can

mh, Thursday, 26 March 2015 14:51 (five years ago) link

I really enjoy the review I found on some website
This smells like my cat
By Anonymous on 3/10/2007

mh, Thursday, 26 March 2015 14:52 (five years ago) link

oh whoops sorry I didn't read what you'd said earlier

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 26 March 2015 15:23 (five years ago) link

This book is also awesome--who knew perfume reviews could be so amusing?

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Thursday, 26 March 2015 18:04 (five years ago) link

I have no real way to describe how my cat smells, but I would perhaps have a stuffed animal at work that I would spray with his fragrance if I could buy such a thing

mh, Thursday, 26 March 2015 18:06 (five years ago) link


hot doug stamper (||||||||), Thursday, 26 March 2015 18:33 (five years ago) link

further reviews of Commes des garcons

wonderwood - this makes me think of a really high quality, very normal scent. high, sharp green notes w/a very subdued musk. maybe a bit of a juniper thing?

black - I had a lot more of an incense feel to this originally, but the second time it really reminds me most of a humidor that's had nice pipe tobacco in it. some muskiness and pepper notes. malin + goetz have a "tobacco"candle scent that has some similar notes

mh, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 01:38 (five years ago) link

so wait these are all colognes by the same company (or designer?)? Just out of curiosity why are you, mh and Stevie D, sticking to this one brand?

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 01:42 (five years ago) link

I am not, it's just a recent interest!
I do not speak for Mr. D tho

mh, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 01:47 (five years ago) link

my relatively inexpensive default is Kiehl's Musk

mh, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 01:50 (five years ago) link

I am v perfume-dumb but I am such a massive fan of CdG's aesthetic and just playful things that make you go hmmm in general and the frags are so fascinating to read about that I guess I'm kinda jumping off w them.

the more I wear Margiela's (untitled) tho the more I think it's The One For Me

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 03:45 (five years ago) link

Some of the CdG frags are like almost antagonistic in their aggressive weirdness

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 03:46 (five years ago) link

I think they want to be!

Their collaborations are kind of cool, although the Pharrell Williams one was ehhh. Kind of wondering what their Monocle magazine ones smell like, except, lol Monocle

mh, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 14:10 (five years ago) link

btw I was wearing some of the Black one over the weekend when I went to a new restaurant and had this whiskey cocktail that was served in a whiskey bottle filled with wood chip smoke and between that smokiness, the cologne, and some savory food I was pretty much in rich texture overload

mh, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 14:12 (five years ago) link

I want to smell you guys!

None of the men in my life wear cologne (well, Jesse did but he can't smell anymore ;_;) and I'm so intrigued by the scents you two are describing.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 14:19 (five years ago) link

I should buy some for Jesse and just put it on him when he's around me.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 14:26 (five years ago) link

wearing currently:

Ivy perilla:
Top notes are Celery Seed, Maillette Lavender, Bergamot, Himalayan Cedarwood, Pine, Juniper Berry
Heart notes are Perilla, Lovage Root, Lavender Abs, Geranium
Base notes are Galbanum resinoid, oakmoss, Pine absolute, vetiver, patchouli


clouds, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 14:28 (five years ago) link

Do you still live in Chicago? Come here and let me smell you.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 14:32 (five years ago) link

i'm surprised you can't now. i love this so much that i probably overapply but who cares.

clouds, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 14:38 (five years ago) link

CLOUDS I ilx-mailed you!

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 15:06 (five years ago) link

Today I'm wearing Comme des Garcons 2.

It's just a flowery perfume, quite pleasant and fresh, not at all cloying, but not terribly ~intriguing~ either. Still not really getting how any of these are niche/avant-garde

OH OH OH EXCEPT for the Series 1 Leaves: Tea which smells like a computer lab or like plastic!!! It's so strange and interesting! This is by and far the most intriguing one I have smelled so far. Not unpleasant but DEFINITELY nothing remotely like you would smell in a perfume.

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 18:49 (five years ago) link

All the other ones I have smelled smell like bad or weird perfume, whereas this just smells like not perfume at all.

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 18:50 (five years ago) link

you need to smell Standard

mh, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 19:28 (five years ago) link

If you want stuff that's unlike perfume, definitely try those Demeter scents I mentioned upthread. There are about a hundred of them and they're all based on generic scents, like grass, bubblegum, laundromat etc. the "dirt" one is good as a scent.

Junior Dictionary (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 20:11 (five years ago) link

wearing today:

Distant Heath
Top notes: Coriander Seed, Peach, Wild Chamomile, Bulgarian Lavender, Celery Seed
Heart notes: Armoise, Ylang Ylang, Frankincense, Jasmine Grandiflorum, Octanol-3 isolate
Base notes: Liatrix, Oakmoss, Ambergris, Cardamom Abs, Guaiacwood

clouds, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 17:27 (five years ago) link

brown note y/n


difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 April 2015 17:35 (five years ago) link

it's okay, i know yr'e jealous~

clouds, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 17:36 (five years ago) link

Are you smelling these things or are they what is in the marketing?

mh, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 17:44 (five years ago) link

my friend who is an apprenticing scent maker put it together

i do smell the things i recognize

clouds, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 17:45 (five years ago) link

imagining the smell of those notes together IS making me quite envious tbh


difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 April 2015 19:43 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

my friend who is an apprenticing scent maker put it together

i do smell the things i recognize

― clouds, Wednesday, April 1, 2015 5:45 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

FYI clouds' friend who is an apprenticing scent maker is putting something together for me, too, and I am UNREASONABLY EXCITED ABOUT IT. It should be done May 20, he said. Can't wait can't wait! I will need to immediately find La Lechera so she can smell me.

Big thanks to you, clouds, for putting me in touch with him!

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Friday, 17 April 2015 16:39 (five years ago) link

i wanna smell you!

i have switched from my winter to my summer scent and it's lifting my spirits a little

groundless round (La Lechera), Friday, 17 April 2015 17:38 (five years ago) link

grateful that all 3 of you will be ready for me to smell by mem day weekend

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 17 April 2015 17:59 (five years ago) link

omg yay carl! so happy i was able to connect you two! i love my scents so much and am getting another more spring/summery floral/woodsy fragrance soon :D

truvada mangano (clouds), Friday, 17 April 2015 20:28 (five years ago) link

i wannna know more about this custom-scenter friend of yours

just1n3, Friday, 17 April 2015 22:02 (five years ago) link

imo it's not that modern life smells good, it's that everything has a scent already

Big companies have helped deflate the scents industry by piling on with their own special smells.

After reading that Burr book LL mentioned upthread this seems incorrect -- there are two tiers to the perfume industry, the creation of "pure" scents and the people combining those ingredients as perfumers. While some perfumers work creating products to be spritzed on the body, that ignores all of the scents used in everything from dish soap to dryer sheets to air fresheners.

I wonder if the industry is actually booming, it's just that stuff spritzed on human beings is in flux.

mh, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:27 (five years ago) link

Seems a fairly arbitrary distinction between cheap and expensive scents if things like Katy Perry's fragrance (£11 for 30ml of EDP) falls into the latter category. The decline in "drug store" scents could easily be because drug stores have started stocking celebrity fragrances.

Ethnically Ambiguous / 28 - 45 (ShariVari), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 20:19 (five years ago) link

The slow prevalence of chain stores like Victoria's Secret marketing scented lotions replacing entry-level perfumes with other scented products has to be part of it. Same with scented shower gel soaps.

mh, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 20:28 (five years ago) link

Who needs a Le Jardin gift set when you've got Bath and Body Works?

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 20:36 (five years ago) link

I was trying hard not to type B&BW

was it the 90s when they came to power, or was that just for my locale?

mh, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 20:39 (five years ago) link

Why did you not want to invoke B&BW? Are they like the Scientology of single note smells?

I don't think I really noticed them until the 00s? But I could be misremembering.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 20:43 (five years ago) link

when they first opened up in my area every high school girl was slathered in their lotions, especially the fruit-scented ones

I'm getting kind of hungry for apricots just thinking about it

mh, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 20:46 (five years ago) link

there's a link on their wikipedia page to an article titled "Bath & Body Works: 'The McDonald's of Toiletries'"

mh, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 20:47 (five years ago) link

I was a fan of their Warm Vanilla Sugar smell, and I liked some lime coconut offering of theirs as well.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 20:49 (five years ago) link

But I had McDonald's for breakfast.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 20:49 (five years ago) link

i figured this is why a glade candle and cheap shampoo can smell similar -they both use the same cheap smell factory scents

groundless round (La Lechera), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 20:52 (five years ago) link

In the mid-90s or so, my roommate took me to some mall store in the Delaware Valley area where you could mix your own fragrances. I remember there were glass containers of fragrance with glass swizzle sticks in them that you could pull out and smell.

Does anybody remember anything like that?

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 20:52 (five years ago) link

Body Shop!

kate78, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 21:17 (five years ago) link

Was it???? I'll be damned.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 21:22 (five years ago) link

Yup I did it too and my scent was groooooss

groundless round (La Lechera), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 21:42 (five years ago) link

Totally forgot about that!!

groundless round (La Lechera), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 21:42 (five years ago) link


truvada mangano (clouds), Friday, 24 April 2015 05:03 (five years ago) link

add to list of "links I will never click"

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 24 April 2015 05:13 (five years ago) link

No no it's actually really interesting!

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Friday, 24 April 2015 06:47 (five years ago) link

It's about an art exhibit of smells.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Friday, 24 April 2015 06:48 (five years ago) link

The Art and Olfaction awards. The award winner that created a smell narrative of celebrity deaths is only a part of the article.

mh, Friday, 24 April 2015 12:39 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

just got in another shipment of scents from my friend joseph

excited :D

clouds, Monday, 1 June 2015 23:13 (five years ago) link

seven months pass...

Got CdG Amazingreen for xmas, reviews of it are so middling but I am telling you it smells so fucking incredible, a bit masculine but definitely not assertively so, very foresty and green with hints of like gunpowder and spice, it is like everything I have ever wanted in a fragrance. I might like it even more than Margiela's "untitled". Cannot recommend enough.

stop assaulting my disposable income!!

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 7 January 2016 22:07 (five years ago) link

get a tester of it, all these ppl whine and moan abt how very BLUE it is and how very PEDESTRIAN and MASS-MARKET it is, and i agree that it's much more approachable and less challenging than many other CdG frags but it does NOT read pedestrian or mass-market to me, it seems v unique and interesting, and also i'm not really getting the blue, it seems so green to me

I mean I know you are v into CdG Black and also wearing black clothes and Amazingreen is much softer so idk

I am wearing a $3.50 Acqua di Gio knockoff. The scent is dead on but fades quickly.

rip van wanko, Thursday, 7 January 2016 22:17 (five years ago) link

nah, I had a tester it's nice

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 7 January 2016 22:44 (five years ago) link

four months pass...

It pains me to say it, but I don't think I've ever heard a better Badn

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Saturday, 14 May 2016 23:25 (four years ago) link

was just looking for Stevie's recommendation and have to say amazingreen is really nice

μpright mammal (mh), Sunday, 15 May 2016 01:22 (four years ago) link

It's great but its longevity is poor and it stays very close. I couldn't spent £80 on something that disappears after an hour. It is a really beautiful scent for 30 minutes though. One of my favourites but doesn't have staying power.

Mr. Hathaway. (jed_), Sunday, 15 May 2016 02:18 (four years ago) link


sexy dander (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 15 May 2016 15:33 (four years ago) link

rn I am into a bunch of these things I got at some boutique perfumirie in Berlin:

sexy dander (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 15 May 2016 15:34 (four years ago) link

I just bought four Demeter frags for super cheap! Dirt, Grass, Tomato, and Greenhoue (the first 3 were $25 ea and came in a set for $30 total, which was great bcz I was specifically looking to buy Dirt and Grass).

Have not tried them on yet but am super stoked

sexy dander (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 19 May 2016 15:19 (four years ago) link

(also Greenhouse was a free gift for ordering the $30 set, idk what they are doing over there but I'm not complaining)

sexy dander (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 19 May 2016 15:20 (four years ago) link

I'm realizing that I've gone from "dabbling in frags w/ a slight curiosity" to, like, being in possession of 20 diff frags now (most of them v small testers but still)

sexy dander (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 19 May 2016 15:24 (four years ago) link

slippery slope

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 19 May 2016 16:15 (four years ago) link

been wearing a mix i made of black poplar, douglas fir, rosewood, hinoki and orange lately

clouds, Saturday, 21 May 2016 20:56 (four years ago) link

can we just take a minute to appreciate what a great name for a perfume 'Fracas' is

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 21 May 2016 21:13 (four years ago) link

but not as good as

sexy dander (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 22 May 2016 01:34 (four years ago) link

the demeter stuff is p cool, whether in the context of it being used in theatre, or as a cologne, or just for general amusement. dirt is really good as a cologne tho.

the earl grey one is nice. there are so many. there's one called funeral home that is good if you want to wear a strange scent as a joke.

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Sunday, 22 May 2016 06:53 (four years ago) link

in theatre??

i think my new frag is gon b 1 spritz each of dirt and grass

my boyf and i saw funeral home on the web page and were horrified

sexy dander (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 22 May 2016 12:51 (four years ago) link

there's an immersive theatre company called punchdrunk and they use the scents a lot in their shows. like you walk into a room and it is a forest and smells of dirt. their only running show is in nyc at the moment, sleep no more - i think that uses some demeter stuff too, most of their shows do. i've noticed other companies copying this a bit.

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Sunday, 22 May 2016 13:02 (four years ago) link

people still do this?

normcore strengthening exercises (benbbag), Sunday, 22 May 2016 17:03 (four years ago) link

rather than put an air freshener in my car I used a half dozen sprays of a nice neutral scent on a paper towel and threw it in the back seat

μpright mammal (mh), Sunday, 22 May 2016 17:12 (four years ago) link

smells way good in there

μpright mammal (mh), Sunday, 22 May 2016 17:12 (four years ago) link

Which chemicals?

normcore strengthening exercises (benbbag), Sunday, 22 May 2016 18:02 (four years ago) link

ethanol mostly but that evaporates real quick

μpright mammal (mh), Sunday, 22 May 2016 18:59 (four years ago) link

I'm wearing CB I Hate Perfume's Soaked Earth, kind of an evolution of Dirt by the same perfumer. Good rainy day scent.

controversial but fabulous (I DIED), Monday, 23 May 2016 00:31 (four years ago) link

is that the one that's milky white? I think I've tried that before and I liked it a lot; it was the first thing I thought of when I smelled Dirt (well, the second after "omg this smells like dirt")

sexy dander (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 23 May 2016 14:31 (four years ago) link

Yes - it's one of their accords, a building block for other scents. I also have the North Atlantic accord, a really fresh but delicate scent I tend to use in warm weather. Soaked Earth has a bit more of an organic quality than Dirt, and I suspect it may play a role in some of their earthier scents like Wild Hunt and Invisible Monster.

controversial but fabulous (I DIED), Monday, 23 May 2016 18:58 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

i have a tester of lalique encre noire and it's really compelling. not saying you should like it but i can't stop sniffing my arm. it's vetiver-heavy like terre d'hermes but replace the orange with cyress. it's supposed to have an inky note to it and i don't know if it's power of suggestion but i have an inkstone and some inksticks with the japanese characters on them and a bamboo brush for doing swoopy washes and that's the concrete manifestation of this. i like it.

i also have the narciso rodriguez for him bleu noir which i bought straight up from the department store; it was so good i didn't want to wait to dick around online and buy it cheaper. it's just a good and quality scent if you like that kind of thing. the regular narciso rodriguez for him is supposed to be a take on the classic aromatic fougeres from back when but they didn't have it. anyone familiar with it?

in the same category i sampled the cartier declaration essence. also vetiver-heavy, though not as intense, with lime and tea top notes. nice, and relaxed. one time i told a girl she was cute and she was insulted. i told her, you don't even know. i think that it's the same sort of thing; you can attack by retreating. not as immediate as terre d'hermes or encre noire but it keeps working on me.

also i was gifted bvlgari aqua marine. it has that seaweed note which comes off as swamp thing initially and i was like that ren and stimpy horse with the "no sir, i don't like it" but it dries down to a different type of marine note: cold, murky lake water instead of salty sea breezes like the usual. it really is chilling, like diving off a dock at a lakeside campsite in late september after the boys of summer have gone, but you realize the clouds have obscured the sun and it's really too cold out to be in the water and you get out and you're shivering and a bit stank and you dry off with a towel and get all up into the campfire but the chill is set into your bones. that's what i get, which is pretty refreshing in this heat right now.

others i think i like:

dolce and gabbana the one
hermes un jardin sur le nil
bvlgari black (just black, not man in black or man black)

slugbuggy, Saturday, 6 August 2016 07:39 (four years ago) link

i'm sticking to designer mostly because niche is pricey.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 6 August 2016 07:49 (four years ago) link

hermes concentre d'orange verte i also like enough.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 6 August 2016 07:52 (four years ago) link

"cypress" not "cyress" for the lalique. cyress i believe was the only good thing abt real world boston.

nb i know he's cyrus but jokes.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 6 August 2016 09:30 (four years ago) link

i looked it up, it's syrus. joke still holds.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 6 August 2016 09:41 (four years ago) link

jason still kind of a dick, although there was that time when he and syrus and sean were going to get the log for the kids at the youth center to do the log rolling thing and "more than a feeling" came on the radio and sean instinctively turned it up and he and jason bonded over that intersection where they both visualized maryanne walking away and the division within the house dissipated, at least in that moment, so i guess he's ok, but syrus was like, whatever.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 6 August 2016 09:57 (four years ago) link

i'm really focused on vetiver-based scents at the moment, is what i'm getting at. sean seems like he'd be into tom ford grey vetiver eu de parfum, which is kinda dull and serious, but also clean and purposeful and sorta trustworthy.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 6 August 2016 10:12 (four years ago) link

that's probably the greatest moment in the history of television, although i'm not sure that tom ford is the way to tie it into the concept of fragrances.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 6 August 2016 10:58 (four years ago) link

not funny or good

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Sunday, 7 August 2016 13:07 (four years ago) link

yeah, i shouldn't drink and try to talk about things. even when i was typing all that mess i realized maybe djp at most cared about mtv's real world minutiae and there's no reason to drag him into this.

i read that iso e super is widely used in woody scents and florals as an intensifier and an extender. it's such a large molecule that it can block receptors and cause temporary anosmia and headaches. last few times i used the terre d'hermes i couldn't smell it at all, and it has one of the highest concentrations of iso e super out there. it wasn't just olfactory fatigue from getting acclimated to an overused scent because i couldn't smell anything else for a good hour after that.

the lalique and the cartier also are high on the list of scents with iso e super. i like the warm, buzzy effect that i attributed to the vetiver but i think that's the synthetic extender so i might have to go easy or cut them out. before i stated messing around with this the most recent fragrance i had was cool water, which i think is ok, but a lot of modern scents are too sweet/ gourmand-y like the muglers, or too light and citrus-y aquatic like all the aqua di gio progeny, or intensely spicy or powdery, musky club and date night scents like spicebomb or le nuit de l'homme.

i'm still entry-level and experimenting so i like to smell things before i get samples to see how they wear, which limits me to the selection at sephora and nordstrom.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 7 August 2016 23:36 (four years ago) link

this was a good revive and had me lolling on a blue saturday

no poke balls (rip van wanko), Sunday, 7 August 2016 23:52 (four years ago) link

very well done

considering some escentric molecules fragrances

mh, Monday, 8 August 2016 02:33 (four years ago) link

i think i want to get a sample of molecule 01 just to see if i can smell the iso e super in isolation. i'm guessing i wouldn't smell much of anything in particular but would still recognize the visceral buzz i'm getting from the hermes or the narciso rodriguez which i might like more than the actual scents.

i ordered some cb i hate perfume samples from the perfumed court: at the beach 1966, wild hunt, and memory of kindness. these seemed like good starting points for this line as from what i've read they're pretty literal snapshots of the scenarios invoked, as opposed to their scents inspired by poems or novels. they didn't have the soaked earth so i got the demeter dirt. the imaginary authors line looks interesting too but i dunno just yet.

slugbuggy, Friday, 12 August 2016 00:20 (four years ago) link

I have samplers of the escentric/molecule varieties and a couple of the molecules do seem like they're more the suggestion of a scent than an actual scent. The formulas using them as a base scent actually smell like perfume, and the molecule odor is actually more discernible than it is on its own!

mh, Friday, 12 August 2016 00:59 (four years ago) link

ugh i have been meaning to go to cb i hate perfume for years and keep forgetting

laraaji p. henson (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 12 August 2016 01:02 (four years ago) link

i think my new frag is gon b 1 spritz each of dirt and grass

do you do this still? i got the cb i hate perfume samples and i really like memory of kindness and wild hunt as both wearable scents and as personal memory/ primordial image switches but the water perfume is as ephemeral as the demeters (maybe the cb absolute perfumes have more projection/ longevity) so i was thinking for a lot less (20 bucks per 4 oz. each vs. 100 bucks per 100 ml.each) i could get the demeter dirt, grass (or just earthworm instead of both since it's soil plus green notes), tomato, thunderstorm, snow (or frozen pond), cypress and/ or fraser fir, and log cabin (cedar plus oakmoss) and reasonably approximate a good six or seven (memory of kindness, winter 1972, black march, the fir tree, etc.) of the cbs using the note breakdown on fragrantica. i know the cb accords are supposed to be a step up but i have a compromised sniffer from smoking so the soil note in wild hunt seemed pretty close to the demeter dirt. i still would like to try some of the individual cb premium accords like north atlantic or wet pavement london, though, because cb seems to really focus on quality of individual notes, cf the rare flowers series.

also just having smelled dirt i feel like i've at least entered the 1990s scent-wise. you miss a lot of history if you don't keep up.

in defense of mediocrity and mall culture:

i also read a few christopher brosius interviews and i get the knock against the perfume-as-accessory orientation of mass-market designer scents but that of-the-moment quality is what makes hungry like the wolf or take on me so great. armani pour homme or farenheit, maybe those were good or maybe not ever or just not anymore given what we know now, i don't know anyone's tastes, i like them, but i grew up when monoculture and branding really meant something. the ubiquitous look of herb ritts ad campaigns, the wonderful pastels and warhol-derived newsprinty-dotted halftone graphics on OP t-shirts, nagel posters. some of those scents were loud and stupid but so was everything else and i have some awesome swatch watches from the 80s and early 90s, made almost entirely of plastic, and christopher brosius can't have them even if they're crap. i missed CKone and l'eau d'issey so they don't mean anything to me now, i smelled them at the mall and they're just ok, but that's like never having seen a tarentino film or having heard sneaker pimps or fastball. it's not the best the culture had to offer but it's mostly what the culture was and i'm not necessarily smarter for not knowing that stuff.

i like the fig leaf in hermes' un jardin de mediterranne so i'm gonna sample the philosykos, per thread recommendations, as well as the wonderwood and amazingreen, since i'm not completely averse to quality.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 21 August 2016 10:15 (four years ago) link

i havne't done this in a while, tbh they don't last long! also idk if i hyped it upthread but this is the price of 1.5 bottles but you get 3 bottles

laraaji p. henson (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 21 August 2016 15:12 (four years ago) link

thanks! i was looking at a discount site that only had the 4 oz. size but i just need the small bottles in the anniversary set. i figured the weak longevity would be a problem if you actually wanted to wear these out for a personal scent but it would still be fun to play with. i got the marc jacobs bang for cheap a tj maxx because it gets compared to encre noire and it's just pure pepper. i layered it with the cb memory of kindness (tomato leaf and green notes) and now i'm a salad.

what did arty kids and downtown types do for scents before the internet, with all the fragrance blogs for intel and direct access to niche houses for supply or the grey market for affordability? back then i could just go to the mall and get polo or tuscany because i didn't know anything else and it suited my needs, i'd wear any cologne in any weather for any and all occasions. now i can watch a few youtube reviews and decide that avignon or kyoto from comme des garcons or l'artisan parfumeurs' voleur de roses would be a good choice to wear while listening to disentegration on a cold november night. i assume if you were in a major urban area and had the cash resources you'd have a network of like-minded friends to clue you in to what was hip and you could shop at exclusive or avant-garde boutiques but if you lived somewhere else or didn't have the funds was there an acceptable sector of the designer market i missed or did you just pick up vintage scents from thrift stores and flea markets and wear those? or did that division not exist then, and everybody just wore opium and beautiful or grey flannel and eternity?

i have azzaro pour homme and paco rabanne pour homme samples and i think i'm getting a handle on 70s aromatic fougeres. the azzaro has a latin feel because of the anise note and it has a tinge of barbershop but not too much, while the paco is pure sweet green soap but in a not entirely unpleasant way, to my nose. way weaker than the original versions afaik so over-projection isn't a big problem. i wish i could pick out notes better because these classic fougeres were supposed to be heavy on the oakmoss, and i don't know what oakmoss smells like specifically, especially now since it's restricted in use. i think if you're old to have worn these or remember adults wearing these they may or may not seem offensive but not weird but under a certain age these aren't even recognizable as scents a human would but on his body. i also have a dior eau sauvage (the steve mcqueen eau sauvage from the 60s, but in the reformulated version, not the contemporary johnny depp sauvage) samples and i like it for a summer citrus aromatic.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 27 August 2016 21:04 (four years ago) link

tbh trying to smell all the old popular scents i missed and trying to connect them back to the culture they came out of is a really bad idea since they've mostly been reformulated to the point that they've lost all the qualities that made them part of the culture in the first place.

i still have guerlain vetiver and habit rouge samples coming but because they're supposed to be good and something i could like and not just artifacts.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 28 August 2016 15:28 (four years ago) link

i ordered habit rouge from amazon and fucking UPS would never ring my buzzer or call me and just said that no one was available so they wouldn't deliver >:(

clouds, Monday, 29 August 2016 13:50 (four years ago) link

have you smelled it before or are you getting it to try? i'm wondering how this smells to someone else. i got my samples and the vetiver seems like a timeless classic, no big surprises, really fresh and wearable today, but the habit rouge seems rather like something out of time, something that fell directly through a temporal portal instead of persisting throughout the years, something that's not supposed to exist in the here and now. maybe not that weird but it seemed really elegantly louche and dandyish, as opposed to crisp and buttoned-up with maybe a hint of five o'clock shadow, which is what i was expecting. i was thinking cary grant and i got tom wolfe, if he were standing next to quentin crisp.

that was the first wearing. i got a really floral and powdery vibe after the citrusy notes blew off, and then a really sweet and gentle leather eventually. today it feels a touch more woody and spicy, so it makes a little more sense that this was keith richard's favorite. maybe i'm overthinking it a little, but this is a little more complex than the reliable and serviceable old-timey scent i thought i was getting.

slugbuggy, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 19:29 (four years ago) link

now it just seems nicely balanced. i don't know if this acts weird on my skin or my nose is just settling down and getting used to it. sorry about all the fuss.

slugbuggy, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 12:11 (four years ago) link

not smelled before but a friend said it was mindblowing

clouds, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 20:56 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

acquisitions so far:

versace dreamer, blue jeans
lolita lempicka au masculin
bvlgari black, aqva marine
d&g the one
narsico rodriguez bleu noir
rochas man
hugo man
armaf tres nuit, club de nuit intense
grey flannel
lalique encre noire
azzaro pour homme
armani pour homme and drakkar noir minis, and claiborne for men, for nostalgic smelling

the hugo man is pretty synthetic and mall-generic but i got it because it seemed pretty 90s-ish and i'm ret-conning my past. i figure i would have had this in 1995 or so if i were buying colognes then. i was taking a drawing class at community college at the time time and someone was playing "you oughta know" on a tape deck and someone walking by stuck and his head in the door and asked who that was because it just seemed so now and hugo man fits in there somewhere. we were doing gestural figure drawings with charcoal sticks and a girl liked mine so i sold it to her for fifty cents. d&g the one was at tj maxx so i just got it; it's ok but i figure i need something that's popular today instead of waiting 10 years and getting it as something emblematic of that era, which is now. the dreamer is what i assume leonardo's romeo was wearing while skulking around verona's cafes scribbling poetic vignettes and romantic idylls in his moleskin, mooning over claire's juliet as his hair flopped around insouciantly while everyone else was off doing violence. it's pretty good; it's a dirty, smoky le male for people who are afraid of le male. the armafs are clones of creed's green irish tweed and aventus for way less because i don't need to spend that much on what i can't tell the difference. rochas man is a good gourmandy espresso. grey flannel is grey flannel.

i want guerlain homme but that can wait until next year. it's a pretty basic summer scent but i like it just fine. the lime, mint, rum (mojito) and vetiver notes just seem really natural and uncomplicated. i don't know what else is good for summer or i'd get that. all the other fresh summery scents, the versace man au fraiche, d&g light blue, azzaro chrome, montblanc legend, etc. that i smelled seem interchangeable but maybe that's just me. l'instant de guerlain is supposed to be a modern classic but i can't really get a handle on it yet.

prada amber, it's really clean and elusive and zen-like. it barely smells like a fragrance but it feels like it's knocking all the kinks out of my chakras at the same time. i should get this.

i'm also gonna get:

narciso rodriguez for him. strong violet leaf note like fahrenheit, which i also want, but rainy and moody, instead of a kerosene fire accord. i'd forgotten about fahrenheit but it's the really the apex of human achievement. i have a hard time not drinking it straight out of the sample vial. gucci pour homme ii has that same note but i'm already getting the other two.

hermes terre d'hermes, un jardin sur le nil, and concentre d'orange verte, why not. i know i like them already, but they're more pricey. also want to sample rocabar, equipage, and bel ami.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 1 October 2016 09:28 (four years ago) link

i keep sniffing the empty vial of habit rouge. if i were david niven, sporting a velvet smoking jacket and glancing up from a leather-bound tome to address a bbc audience who just popped in via the telly to hear a narrative on the crimean war i'd be all over it but i can't pull that off.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 1 October 2016 10:50 (four years ago) link

i'd also like a bespoke fragrance series based on and titled after popular music selections, specifically in between days, strangelove, silent morning, her head's revolving, cities in dust, green eyes, lake of fire, and blister in the sun if anyone wants to get on that.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 1 October 2016 11:52 (four years ago) link

my friend joe would actually probably be up for that

clouds, Saturday, 1 October 2016 13:32 (four years ago) link

i don't know you'd translate subjective sonic perceptions into subjective olfactory perceptions, but i figure out of the tens of thousands of perfumes out there, one of them best matches the impression new order's ceremony leaves on me, for example. it's likely different for someone else but that's an interesting question for a nose, how closely can the feel of a fragrance be matched up to the feel of a song, even if that experience is unique to him or her.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 1 October 2016 23:25 (four years ago) link

true faith, if you could just bottle true faith i'd be all set. my life depends on the morning sun. i need that inner sensation externalized, bottled. how soon is now? is also a song i need to smell.

i don't feel like 80s fragrances i know match the perceptions i have of 80s culture: bright, shiny, immediate, corrosively seductive, NOW! krugerian/ haringesque/ nagalesiac/ lynchific pop offerings in music, film, graphic design, and fashion, but the fragrances seem like they kept to a narrow leathery, fougery tangential corridor left over from god's own whenever until joop! homme and fahrenheit arrived at the very end of the decade, and those only posthumously capture the pop! zeitgeist. you get these words wrong. armani pour homme at least feels like bryan ferry in mood and texture, louche and elegantly disheveled, everyone has left the piano bar save the two chic personages exchanging wry repartee at the end of the night, tuxedo and unbound tie and rumpled satin dress, and they're totally gonna go home together and do sex things, except this is only a vague memory of what you once felt was once possible. you can't wear armani pour homme anymore; you're too grown up to dream. slave to love reference.

the contemporary grey flannel i have is so wrong. bitter herbal, green, soapy, with a mild violet note coming in during the heart note section. very pleasant and calming, a true classic fragrance that stands the test of time, once the difficult opening is past. except wrong, the grey flannel i had eons ago was a leathery, oily, floral, sensory blitzkrieg that radiated iridescent purple and stayed that way. i'm gonna get some oakmoss absolute and add a few drops to my bottle because that's supposedly the difference due to ifra restrictions. i'm not some weirdo nostlagieste who thinks old things are inherently better but there's a marked difference and it's not as good.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 15 October 2016 10:23 (four years ago) link

slugbuggy, have you ever tried Égoïste by Chanel? It came out in 1990 and I remember sniffing it at the time thinking it was the loveliest scent out there. Powdery and subtle, as I remember it. Apparently it flopped in the US and hasn't been sold here in years but still is in Europe. Maybe price was an issue - it cost about twice as much as a Guerlain, iirc. It's the favorite scent of its creator, Jacques Polge, who has created quite a number of fragrances going back to 1970.

I recently scored some online just to see if it smelled as great as my memory… and was kind of surprised by the strength and intrusiveness of it. Maybe best in small applications. Still stands out quite a bit from what you would normally smell nowadays.

Josefa, Saturday, 15 October 2016 15:43 (four years ago) link

*opening a french door* EGOISTE!!!

got a bottle of yatagan off amazon, kinda reminds me of the fougeres my dad would wear in the early 90s. not sure what the connection is... artemisia? it's also really spicy and woody. today's weather is chilly and wet and i notice the oakmoss notes for the first time and can't stop smelling my wrist

clouds, Saturday, 15 October 2016 21:40 (four years ago) link

i've been wanting to try egoiste but it's not in stores and the sample sites i use don't have it either. from what i read the current formulation doesn't get as much love from people who had the original; at least the opening is supposed to be harsher but i gather that overall it's still pretty good. either way i'll feel like i missed out if i don't get a hold of a sample.

yatagan has a castoreum note so maybe there's some similarity to kouros?

slugbuggy, Monday, 17 October 2016 14:22 (four years ago) link

my dad wore stuff like drakkar noir and joop! -- don't think he was fancy enough for ysl. kouros is on my wishlist though.

have you checked out luckyscent? i'm planning to get a bunch of samples from there since a friend rec'd it

clouds, Monday, 17 October 2016 14:36 (four years ago) link

i've browsed luckyscent but so far i've only used myperfumesamples since it's pretty inexpensive but limited to designer and theperfumedcourt for higher-end and it also offers different sizes compared to luckyscent. for full bottles i've only bought from fragrancex (i usually get stuff in two days) but i also check fragrancenet since prices vary and sometimes one will have a better deal than the other. there are other online discounters but so far i think i'm doing ok. luckyscent has full bottles of niche that i can't get from the others but they don't seem to discount.

i got my oakmoss absolute and put two small dollops of the resin into the 8 oz. splash bottle of grey flannel. there's a marked difference: the bitter green herbal galbanum note off the top of the current formulation is still present but pushed back into a supporting role. the problem i had with my current bottle was that one day the herbal note predominated and the next the floral or soapy notes stood out, but after i messed with it it seems pretty consistent so far. i think oakmoss is like a rug that ties the whole room together. i may have dampened the floral notes a bit in the process but this seems a lot closer to the vintage mini (90s pre-oakmoss ban) i have in texture and style if not exact smell. i'll let it settle a bit more and i don't want to futz with it too much but i might get some violet essential oil and add a bit to bring that note up. i've also added a touch of oakmoss to my screw-off top bottle of azzaro pour homme to see what that does.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 22 October 2016 07:38 (four years ago) link

nb i'm still a novice at this. mostly i can't pick out individual notes unless i see the note breakdown on fragrantica and then i go back and correlate what i'm smelling to what's supposed to be in there. like i thought d&g the one's sweetness derived from vanilla until i read it has a predominant amber note; maybe the inkyness of encre noire is the cypress? some people are really good at this stuff.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 22 October 2016 08:14 (four years ago) link

tbh i don't know what the grey flannel mania is about but if the past keeps changing i don't know how the present isn't wildly oscillating.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 22 October 2016 09:27 (four years ago) link

i think what i meant by that last post was that perfumery is a weird area of interest since you always have a shifting frame of reference temporally. if fragrances keep getting reformulated until they're barely the same thing anymore you don't have a stable baseline for comparisons. plus, given the "smell is the most powerful memory trigger" thing, if you change the smell you're getting a wonky signal and not getting full access to the memory bank. unless you want to pay $225 plus shipping for a vintage bottle off ebay. it's like if your mom photo-shopped your high school graduation picture every year to keep the hairstyle up to date.

like whenever i mention polo green to a sales rep as something that was really popular in the 80s they always wrinkle their noses and declare how awful it is. that kinda makes me a bit upset, not because they dislike the styles of my era, but because they've never truly smelled polo and don't know how gloriously awful it once was in all its disgraceful glory. it was truly glorious, that disgracefulness. i wore it all the time anyway.

also, clouds, have you smelled lapidus pour homme? it's from 1987 but to me smells even older, like from the deep polyester afternoon delight 70s. there's something really weird and dated about it in the opening, but at the same time i can't qualify why i feel that way since it doesn't smell like anything else from that era that i'm aware of. it's an oriental, it has rose, tobacco, honey, incense, pineapple, and some other random stuff in the notes. it think the clash of the sweet, floral, and dirty notes makes it weird, but it dries down to something that's really elegant, if you don't go heavy on it since it's pretty potent but i think it's like kouros in that aspect. fine line between love and ew gross. i think its datedness makes it kinda sad and poignantly beautiful, like a grand hotel that's fallen into disrepair.

i only figure since you mention kouros, egoiste, and yatagan; i think it triangulates somewhere in there. also i only recently smelled whatever current formulation exists so i can't speak to all that previous blather about things being different now since i don't know if it's changed any or how.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 23 October 2016 07:34 (four years ago) link

i think from the present era i like the narciso rodriguez for him and prada amber the most, but even those are like ten years old. they seem pretty introverted and contemplative and kinda soggy and passive-aggressive in their blithely transparent opaqueness that doesn't settle anywhere particular, so there's that. also i think from a raw sensory angle they also smell good to me without qualification and that's is not an idea i'm used to.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 23 October 2016 08:35 (four years ago) link

i don't know how i got from wanting to try a few new things besides cool water to wanting to learn a little more so i can make good choices to where i'm getting all upset because as cultural artifacts fragrances are texts that i don't have the skill set or methodology to properly approach so i'm not sure what i like anymore, all in the space of two or three months. i was in a store just smelling things and doing field studies and an actual customer walked in, asked to smell something, decided he like it, bought it, and then he took his purchase and left, and i think i was blown away that you could just do that.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 23 October 2016 19:26 (four years ago) link

i haven't tried lapidus, sounds interesting.

just got my pack of samples from luckyscent: unum lavs, cdg hinoki, maison francis kurkdjian oud silk mood, legrand chypre mousse and lutens vetiver oriental

wearing unum lavs atm and it's like old precious leatherbound books meets slightly metallic herbal soap.

clouds, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 13:30 (four years ago) link

i may have overreacted a bit but the lapidus was weird to me because i'm not really familiar with orientals in general and particularly because it seemed so far out of context with what i've tried of the old-timey scents, but it gets mentioned by the ppl who are into kouros and yatagan and the like so i thought i'd bring it up.

i looked up what you got and they all seem nicely timed for testing in the autumn weather, which is something i should keep in mind since i usually try whatever i've just read about that i think i need to put into my database, regardless of season.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 29 October 2016 07:31 (four years ago) link

also, i'm not sure if i'm trying to find scents that reflect and express something interior bout myself to the outside world or if i'm trying on things from the outside world in hopes of effecting some change in that general direction, like there's some jungian alchemical work towards actualization going on through the application of discernibly attainable qualities via the medium of scent or whatnot, or maybe just a a cargo cult type of thing. or else i just want to smell nice and carry around a nice thing on my self to smell all day. between love and madness lies obsession.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 29 October 2016 11:33 (four years ago) link

wearing unum lavs atm and it's like old precious leatherbound books meets slightly metallic herbal soap.

yeah, this is what i like about putting on smells. it's just fucking chemicals but there's old books in there and the leather seats in the dodge challenger your father drove before he got serious and had a family and violins and woodwinds and scratchy wool sweaters or whatever.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 29 October 2016 13:22 (four years ago) link

also, we're living in the near future already, you'd think by now they'd have developed sub-dermally injected symbiotic micro-organisms that metabolize and convert raw materials into designer aroma chemicals that are continuously extruded through sweat glands so your days belong to adventure and your nights belong to romance.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 29 October 2016 14:59 (four years ago) link

yeah i am quite solipsistic in public life and i really only wear things so that i can smell them, also it tends to block out unpleasant external smells

so far out of all the testers i got the mfk oud silk mood has been the most stunning, of course it's almost $400 for a bottle. it is like the most luxurious rose scent, but the rose is so fresh that it's almost herbal and not even floral at all. not skanky at all, not that that's a bad thing (part of why i love yatagan actually, it's such a dtf frag). i don't know what laotian oud is like on its own (checked the price for a bottle of oud absolute, sheesh) but i assume that and the blue chamomile are responsible for the "herbal" impression.

clouds, Saturday, 29 October 2016 15:10 (four years ago) link

i'd been thinking of fragrances as having personalities so i was wondering if people (mostly myself) tend to pick scents that project or amplify aspects of their own personalities or if the tendency is to pick scents with personalities they aspire to have and graft those over top of their own, is what i think i was getting at, but now that i see what i wrote that seems less the case than it is that scents have moods that you can use either way, to amplify or change you own mood at will.

i like what you wrote even better, though. creating a mini-environment that you yourself inhabit and can take around with you everywhere, it's not about changing yourself as much as it's about altering the texture and feel of the space you're in to your liking the way someone might decorate a room.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 30 October 2016 03:07 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

i got cdg 2 and 2 man samples. there was a post on the 2 that i can't find, but iirc in summary and in conclusion the takeaway was idgi, and i also am befuddled by this fragrance given its statement of purpose and what i actually experienced. the concept is opposition: light and dark, airy aldehydes and inky blackness, but i get a moderately pleasant scent that i can't engage with. prada amber is a comparatively liminal scent in that there's nothing there but the suggestion of something beyond what the senses can detect, but with the prada, and i'm quoting diane in manhattan, it has a marvelous negative capability whereas the cdg does not. i'll probably end up getting the cdg 2 over something i actually like, because it makes me feel dumb and i want its approval.

the cdg 2 man, though. my current situation is that i need something that is accessible/ wearable but pulls me towards the dark side and this is it. there are likely more complex incense fragrances out there but this is pretty fucking solid. it literally just smells like an incense stick but it also guides you by the hand into the proposition that dank smokiness can also be light and elegant at the same time, ever fallen in love with someone you shouldn't have fallen in love with?

i didn't get the amazingreen sample because of the negative reviews that said it was generic and mainstream but then i remembered what stevie said so i'll get it next go around. i think there's an intersection between advanced and populist that knows where you live and that's what i'm looking for. i think it just might have a nice butt; everyone likes a nice butt and everyone wants to have a nice butt despite creed or philosophy so let's get together on this. also i got the wonderwood a few months ago and it was way too much wood but i tried it again in the dry and cold weather and it it really dialed in to where it's on point.

i also am trying out the l'artisan parfumeur line. the velour de roses is way patchouli. the rose and plum are barely evident but i felt like it was instructive in that they really rounded out and shaped the main accord. it's hippyish firstly and gothy secondarily (lucretia, my hippy mama )and it's gorgeous out of the vial but it's yuck on my skin so i'll pass. the caligna is just a really good fresh fig; i don't get anything else. fou d'absinthe is an aromatic fougere so it smells like a lost classic from back when but i can't separate the wormwood from the pine and fir because i don't know what wormwood smells like. there's some spiciness in the drydown. très lumberjack. tea for two is available again and i want to try that. also i want to try timbuktu and the premier figiuer. seems like this is a good entry-level niche house for people who are me.

slugbuggy, Thursday, 24 November 2016 07:25 (four years ago) link

i'm wearing the fahrenheit. the next to last formulation toned down the chamomile, which apparently gives it the kerosine accord, and i checked the batch codes so that's the one i got. the reactionary faction of the fragrance community prefers the most recent formulation in that approximates the original with the smells like burning, but i can spray on the bastardized version as much as i want and get that sweet violet leaf bump as much as i want. you really can't go wrong though. i know there's a guidingi force to the universe because she gave me fahrenheit to spray on myself. who's gonna drive you home tonight? fahrenheit, that's who.

slugbuggy, Thursday, 24 November 2016 07:44 (four years ago) link

mongol general: what is best in life?

conan: to crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women. and dior fahhrenheit, never mind that aggro bullshit i just mentioned.

mongol general: that is good! that is good.

slugbuggy, Thursday, 24 November 2016 08:30 (four years ago) link


illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 24 November 2016 08:34 (four years ago) link

friend of mine has timbuktu, recommends it

really want to try al oudh

clouds, Thursday, 24 November 2016 15:31 (four years ago) link

for some reason i really want to like the timbuktu, and that reason is the hay note. rocabar is supposed to have this, too. i want to roll around in field and hear what the earth wants to say to me, without literally having to do that. i'll take a simulacrum of that experience. also i want a serviceable woody spicy thing that's good for cool weather and scarves.

i have opium pour homme and jaipur homme coming and that's something, even though i think they may be too old-timey. still can't find egoiste samples.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 3 December 2016 10:04 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

jaipur and opium are both pretty good! not amazing, but good reference points, as they're from the 90s but could be worn today without seeming too retro. not your most exciting friends, but your most reliable. very solid journeyman scents for cool weather. warm and inviting but not shouty-spicy. there aren't any really intriguing or compelling notes compared to current niche stuff but they seem well balanced and subdued compared to current mall-centric spicy stuff.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 18 December 2016 07:08 (four years ago) link

since i last posted i've been wearing lalique encre noire -- pretty much the best vetiver scent i've encountered. i don't really get the "black ink" of the name so much as vetiver and resinous wood. also, the bottle is gorgeous, a heavy black glass cube.

clouds, Sunday, 18 December 2016 14:25 (four years ago) link

Just wanted to say I love this thread and have it bookmarked, pls keep it coming!

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Sunday, 18 December 2016 15:50 (four years ago) link

I still get a lot of joy from Musgo Real's No 1 (Orange Amber).

djh, Sunday, 18 December 2016 16:18 (four years ago) link

i think the degree of inkiness is temperature/ humidity dependent? i first tried encre noire during the summer and i did get a discernible inky note, although i am susceptible to suggestion so i'm not discounting that i was looking for it to be there. i've worn it a few times lately in the cold and i probably wouldn't get "ink" out of it either under these conditions if i didn't already carry that impression around with me. i think the bvlgari black is the same way. i also tried it in warmer times and got the strong rubber note ppl talk about, but i'm wearing it now and i mostly get the black leather vibe (and that breaks down to the tea plus vanilla, i think) with hardly any rubber. i can still see where the ink and rubber come from but they're not really that prominent if you don't wear them out of season. the bottles are representations of inkwells and tires, though, so that novelty aspect is emphasized, even though that detracts from the actual balanced composition you get if worn during appropriate conditions, i'm assuming? that's on a level of makers of glass pipes for tobacco use only who strongly advise against any misuse of their products as putting weed in your pipe could have the undesired side effect of getting you really high.

i do like that ink note though and would wear this out of season to get that effect. also i am under the understanding that certain s&m types value the bvlgari black specifically for that vinyl/ rubber note. i just googled to check if this assertion was correct and got so far before i backed off.

does benzoin have a buttery, slightly nutty flavor to it? i get the resins in the drydown of the jaipur but i'm not sure if that particular slant comes entirely from the benzoin or if something else is bending it in that direction.

slugbuggy, Wednesday, 21 December 2016 09:03 (four years ago) link

bvlgari black along with guerlain's l'instant are next on my list, hopefully i get a nice tax return and can get my boyfriend JPG kokorico

clouds, Wednesday, 21 December 2016 15:11 (four years ago) link

my brother has caron pour un homme which is musk with lavender and vanilla; it has a minty medicinal note in the opening that i don't like so much and don't understand given the note breakdown but it seems to be of historical importance from my readings as far as musk goes (it's from the 30s)and i like the soft texture after the opening dissipates. the musgo looks like it's in the same trad vein but the citrus notes brighten it up, it seems? how do you know about this and where do you get this? i ask because it doesn't seem to be talked about much.

what's the kokorico like? i like the fig leaf in the hermes un jardin en mediterranee, the patchouli in zino and tom ford noire, and the dry cacao in lidg. this is available on fragranceenet for like $25 or $18 for a tester so i could blind buy.

also, midnight in paris, azzaro visit, roma by laura biagiotti? any intel on these? mip is likened to bvlgaei black, but more powdery and opinions seem really divided, visit is incencey and woody but could be cheap, roma is resiny but could be cheap.

slugbuggy, Friday, 23 December 2016 10:27 (four years ago) link

i apology for all the typos; scotch and smells is my MO. i'm not as smart as i should be under these conditions, but otherwise i'm all intp about it and that doesn't address what smells are for, just what they appear to be.

slugbuggy, Friday, 23 December 2016 10:58 (four years ago) link

my brother asked what i was wearing and when i told him it was the encre noire he gave the same comment - it didn't come across as ink as much as it just smelled like a good vetiver.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 24 December 2016 21:25 (four years ago) link

how do you like it? i think it is a really stylish frag but almost too cool for me?

clouds, Saturday, 24 December 2016 21:40 (four years ago) link

Bought a bottle of Creed Aventus even tho cologne doesn't last terribly long on my skin.

ILXorcist 2: The Heretic (Eric H.), Sunday, 25 December 2016 00:59 (four years ago) link

the encre noire? i've seen it described as too serious and dark and a bit melancholic, so only appropriate for formal occasions, mostly funerals, but also as rooty and earthy and woody, so a good lumberjack scent but maybe without any warmth. lumbergoth, maybe, so i can see where it might not comfortably fit either mood without seeming a bit self-conscious or forced?

personally i'm attached to a specific accord it has - kinda smoky, charred, inky, but also dank, sort of redolent of bongwater, maybe. can't pin it down but it's a bit funky and different than what i've experienced so far. right now that overshadows other aspects: nuances of composition, suitability of occasion, how its style wears on me, etc.. i just like shoving it up my nose.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 25 December 2016 17:52 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

i've had a crimbus and a birthday since last annoyance, so this is what i got:

narciso rodriguez for him - musky, violet leaf, patchouli. i like it so i never wear it so i can save it.

mugler a*men - sweet caramel but that tar note for contrast. fresh floral underpinning i think. historically significant, avoided for clubby associations but essential.

guerlain homme - basic, lime, mint, rum, vetiver. good for high heat. will report back when that occurs.

azzaro visit - good incense, pepper, cedar. way cheaper than cdg 2 man, which i prefer. too much iso e super, which makes it fade in and out.

versce man - not the man au fraiche, just man. saffron. i like saffron.

prada amber - saffron. white florals. vaguely realized concepts, like amber accord and eau de cologne accord and leather accord and fougere accord, which i get, but only because the designer indicated that that's the idea. pretty fucking elegant.

lalique homme equus - juniper berries and sequoia wood. blind buy gift. i didn't know what it would smell like and neither did the person who bought it for me. i thought it'd be more lumberjack. i think it's a different smell so i'm intrigued.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 5 February 2017 13:08 (four years ago) link

those all sound good - equus, original a*men and narcisco rodriguez are all on my want list

clouds, Sunday, 5 February 2017 13:34 (four years ago) link

how do you all feel about Vetiver Guerlain?

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Sunday, 5 February 2017 14:43 (four years ago) link

i like it, but i'm still trying to sort it out. i got a sample last summer and felt the woody and aromatic aspects were a little too much for the heat, even though it's still green and citrusy at the same time. i think it'd be good for spring weather.

i have the same issue with terre d'hermes and tom ford grey vetiver: too fresh and citrusy for cold weather, too woody in the heat.

i haven't smelled any of the nichey vetiver-dominant scents like creed original vetiver or frederic malle vetiver extraordinaire and the like so i don't know how it compares to that sort of thing.

slugbuggy, Friday, 10 February 2017 04:41 (four years ago) link

i think maybe that's why i wanted the guerlain homme - it still has that vetiver backbone, but dialed down for summer.

slugbuggy, Friday, 10 February 2017 04:51 (four years ago) link

i keep sniffing the empty vetiver guerlain vial, just the same as the terre d'hermes and the paco rabanne ph. i love these earthy/ fresh smells, but have issues with melding with them. i thought this would be a fun hobby but it's bringing on existential crises. this vetiver guerlain feels too serious for the summer! i feel like i should be trying to sell insurance to someone or issuing missives to the office staff to not change the copier toner before it's completely depleted! this fragrance would be great for wearing a white button-down short-sleeve oxford shirt with tan slacks! to a rotary club cookout fundraiser! fun but let's not get too crazy here, folks, this is plano, texas, not marin county!

in summary and in conclusion, i give guerlain vetiver an a minus.

slugbuggy, Friday, 10 February 2017 06:17 (four years ago) link

not sure if i really answered your question. i defer to anyone else who has an opinion.

slugbuggy, Friday, 10 February 2017 06:21 (four years ago) link

lalique equus - i mentioned to fambily that i liked the lalique white and encre noire, and that the quality seemed pretty good vs. online price, maybe the other offerings are just as good, this seems like a good and quality house, dedicated to different interpretations, what else do they have, and that the equus looked interesting as far as the listed notes, because usually the woody note is cedar and the dominant fruity note is bergamot or lemon, not sequoia or juniper berry. that's what i said. what was heard was that i really wanted the lalique equus.

anyway. now i have it. nb i'm a novice but stereotypicically intp so i really feel the need to qualify my impressions. the woods are predominant, but really red. the juniper, it's chistmasy, almost craft store make your own wreath, there's some attendant citruses, buy it's mostly all juniper.

it starts off really square, like a really polite attempt at interesting, but sheena is a punk rocker now. it's like going on a wholesome nature hike except you secretly have your boy scout canteen fulled with gin.

slugbuggy, Friday, 10 February 2017 08:13 (four years ago) link

this is the most glamping fragrance i've ever encountered not that's not a bad thing. tim gunn chopping firewood, what's the thread count on that gingham table covering? hey. diipshit, this is america, we're gonna roast some hot dogs over the campfire, put on your bean boots and flip up your fucking collar on your rl polo.

slugbuggy, Friday, 10 February 2017 10:09 (four years ago) link

never stop!

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 10 February 2017 10:11 (four years ago) link

i have optimisms.

slugbuggy, Friday, 10 February 2017 10:17 (four years ago) link

i think i meant 'opinions' but whatever.

slugbuggy, Friday, 10 February 2017 11:08 (four years ago) link

<3 a slugbuggy optipinions

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 10 February 2017 13:54 (four years ago) link

i like the equus, i just thought it was a little confusing. feels too well-mannered given that the notes suggest a gin-soaked lumberjack. or vice-versa? the black sheep of a respectable family that might disappear on a bender for a few days. also i'm not picking up the leather note.

i also wasn't calling tim gunn a dipshit, the last part of that rant was me picturing a kinfolk editorial or lifestyle blog spread featuring a very posh and forced version of outdoorsiness.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 11 February 2017 05:40 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

lalique goes for high-end designer prices on their website and through upscale retail stores like neiman marcus, but is really cheap on the discount sites. like, the 4.2 Oz of lalique white lists for $138, but i got it for around $25. encre noire is $125 for 3.3 oz, but again i got it for around $25 online. chanel and hermes are similarly priced high-end designer, but never get discounted to that degree. equus is the same deal, $115 for the 2.5 oz edp vs. $25ish my brother paid.

i kinda feel like i got caught wearing a thrift store tie that as is turns out, is a repp tie from a fancy prep school that i did not matriculate and in fact didn't even know existed. it's like how the family in your neighborhood with the most wealth isn't the one that drives mercedes and buys armani, it's the one that drives old volvos and goes to andover shop every school year and has a lot of old threadbare stuff in their house and all the kids read wittgenstein in the ninth grade and were over it because that's how their day school rolled and you didn't read that shit until freshman year of public university and wouldn't shut up about it. it's all just smells but there's something suspiciously square but assured about the laliques that doesn't have a place in the obvious and populist designer/ complicated and in-the-know niche dichotomy, is how i'm framing this.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 4 March 2017 06:53 (four years ago) link

Well framed!

Do you dabble in any "women's" scents? I wore Coco yesterday and it seemed pretty retro but in a different way then, like, Giorgio retro. I tend to choose a scent (to be fair I only have 5, not much to pick from) based on what I'm wearing. Today is jeans, t-shirt, cropped cowboy boots and I'm going to a gun range. Definitely not a Coco day. Maybe eau de Cartier but I tend to only do that in warm weather and it's quite chilly today. Perhaps I'll give the Guerlain Vetiver one last try before I admit that I like to smell it in the bottle but don't particularly like wearing it.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Saturday, 4 March 2017 13:37 (four years ago) link

tried a couple 90s scents, one really familiar (tommy) and one less (cool water). tommy smells even better than i remember, like fresh soapy apple. i feel like this could easily be a unisex scent.

as for cool water i've already blown through almost ~1.5oz of a bottle. i was half-expecting to find it somewhat cloying since this is seems to be the archetype for mainstream male frags made in the last 30 years, but it really is brilliant. pleasantly abstract and balanced as fuck, can't honestly name any one particular note that stands above the others. maybe oakmoss. it's hard to describe how it smells other than just "clean"

also snagged a large bottle of puig quorum on a friend's recommendation. first thought is, "wow this is like yatagan" but with more of a powdery grapefruit vibe and not quite as piney. reads as super old-school masculine which i'm thinking is where i gravitate frag-wise.

quincie you should give encre noire a try -- when i was wearing it i thought it was quite unisex

clouds, Saturday, 4 March 2017 17:47 (four years ago) link

i haven't dug into scents marketed as women's much because i don't know the landscape. i smelled the ysl opium and i can see it being unisex. i figure a lot of contemporary unisex scents are orientals, so a lot of classic women's scents that are orientals would be unisex by today's standards.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 18 March 2017 04:59 (three years ago) link

also calling something unisex suggests there are still things that aren't? i don't know if unisex means genderless or gender inclusive. there's the line i see a lot that there's no gender in fragrance but i dunno if you can dispose of the concept entirely. there's stuff that has nothing to do with gender associations, stuff that shouldn't have been given gender associations but wasn't given a choice because society, stuff that acknowledges gender associations but bridges the gaps to allow for freedom of expression, and stuff that is deeply rooted in gender associations, which is also good because you can't subvert paradigms if there aren't any, or conversely you just want to stick to where you're at as far as that sort of thing goes.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 18 March 2017 06:30 (three years ago) link

I wear the goiter with the male torso.

The sandwiches looked quite dank. (contenderizer), Saturday, 18 March 2017 06:45 (three years ago) link

what's that smell like?

slugbuggy, Saturday, 18 March 2017 07:00 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

i tried the tommy and i think it's a better choice for my 90s retconning than the hugo man, which is giving me attitude. i didn't have the tommy at the time, but i could wear it and pretend it's a nostalgic scent for me. def get the "clean laundry" vibe, which i think is in other more recent stuff like versace pour homme, but this seems seminal and of pop-cultural import and could be a good everyday thing when you just want a pleasant uncomplicated thing that reminds you of rocco's modern life and playing doom and all the divisions in the boston firehouse and sean and montana should have hooked up already and whatnot.

i did a mall sweep where i smelled all the mall scents to see if anything stood out and it was unproductive. after a few smells all i got was white noise, which would be a good band name for any band i would be in. the worst part was that i found out that the dior homme sport has been completely reformulated. i wasn't going to get it, but i liked it, and they changed it. they took out the fucking iris! and the ginger and citron! it was really pretty, for a man's scent! it's like jesus said, people are dicks, whatta you gonna do? we're all slaves to the rhythm, and the rhythm of dior homme sport was a sophisticated yet flirty foxtrot. i can't dance to this new stuff. boo dior.

slugbuggy, Friday, 14 April 2017 06:30 (three years ago) link

also before it goes away i used the last of the cdg 2 sample. it's so slight, but there's an allure. this makes me wish i had applied myself more in the competitive sphere so i could afford to longer keep frivolous things that might be for me but i'll never know. i now get the aldehyde/ floral thing that looks over its shoulder at its inky shadow, it's so damn cute. goodbye, cdg 2 sample, we could have spent the rest of out lives together wasting away sunday mornings reading the times in bed and splitting a croissant because nobody needs a whole croissant.

slugbuggy, Friday, 14 April 2017 07:06 (three years ago) link

ah but that's where you're wrong

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 14 April 2017 07:46 (three years ago) link

you think you need a whole croissant?
nobody needs a whole croissant!

slugbuggy, Friday, 14 April 2017 08:02 (three years ago) link

maybe you just don't like croissants?

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 14 April 2017 08:06 (three years ago) link

cause i'll eat two as a goddamn warmup

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 14 April 2017 08:07 (three years ago) link

Slug where do you get your samples? Any sample-shopping tips?

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 14 April 2017 11:55 (three years ago) link

picked up laura biagiotti roma for myself and mugler cologne for my bf: roma is like a creamy vanilla-y benzoin with orange/bergamot, pine needles and a kind of pleasant musty note that smells a bit like visiting someone's else's house. the mugler is musky metallic neroli soap, really lovely, just wish the longevity were better.

clouds, Friday, 14 April 2017 12:21 (three years ago) link

the CdG/Monocle (don't judge) collaboration Hinoki is one of my faves and I actually remembered it this morning

it's got this woody camphor thing going that reminds me of the smell of the cabins from summer camp when I was a kid

a landlocked exclave (mh 😏), Friday, 14 April 2017 14:23 (three years ago) link

i actually had a sample of hinoki, it seemed to me like an incense wood type scent. i liked it but it's such light subtle stuff that the niche price isn't rly justified imo

clouds, Friday, 14 April 2017 15:20 (three years ago) link

definitely one that dissipates quickly

i have a couple faves like that, and while the ephemeral nature can be irritating in some ways it's nice in others

a landlocked exclave (mh 😏), Friday, 14 April 2017 15:23 (three years ago) link

for samples i try sephora and nordstrom. that's the best i got for brick and mortar. they'll give you some small spray vials if you ask, and they have a slightly better selection than macy's or whatnot. like at least sephora has dior eau sauvage, while macy's dior stock was entirely johnny depp sauvage plus one solitary bottle of fahrenheit, fer chrissakes. they didn't even have the dior homme line anymore. i think there's a saks within driving distance that may or may not have a chanel boutique but i'm pretty limited to what i can test in person. sephora has platinum egoiste but not the EGOISTE! EGOISTE! one.

for online i try MyPerfumeSamples first since you can get a decent quantity for cheap. they don't have much past the usual designer but that's where i got the jaipur homme and ysl opium, 3ml or 5ml for about 4 to 6 bucks usually. notino and decantshop i can get a 2ml sprayer for about the same price, so it's slightly more per ml but they have things like l'artisan or some but not all cdg or diptyque or things like jpg kokorico or dsquared rocky mountain he wood that myperfumesamples doesn't have.

i've also used the perfumed court for the cb i hate perfume samples i got. they've got a lot of high end and niche and vintage versions of stuff, but it gets pricey real quick. luckyscent seems to have all the niche but they only have the small .7ml vials for dabbing, but luckyscent keeps the price at 4 bucks for everything, i think, while the perfumed court varies. the perfumed court also has larger sprayer sizes, which i like because i don't think i get enough from just dabbing on a bit from the small vials; i like enough to get a couple of sprays for at least a few trial wearings. anyway i figure i'm good messing around with classics and designer for now.

also tj maxx, half the boxes have been broken into already so i just spray that right on, assuming they have anything good, which they never do.

mostly i watch a lot of fragrance reviewers on youtube (kristo from the betawiblood channel is good, so is christopher from scentland for classics, lanier smith, robes08, and simply put scents are some others i like) and browse fragrantica to get a sense of what i might like and then go mall sniffing or order samples. fragrantica's useful, in that if you like a certain note in a thing you can go to the page for that note and it'll show you other things with that note predominating. like i smelled the prada amber at sephora, got a sample to wear, went on fragantica for the note breakdown, figured out that i like saffron, found that versace man (just man, not man eau fraiche) also has a predominant saffron note and is cheap, got a versace man (just man, not man eau fraiche) sample, and ended up getting both for christmas/ birthday presents.

i want to try the roma since i've liked everything from annick menardo so far.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 22 April 2017 05:05 (three years ago) link

they have celery, cucumber, tomato, pepper, bread (for croutons), wine (for vinaigrette), and bacon notes, so where are all the salad fragrances? who dropped the ball on this?

slugbuggy, Saturday, 22 April 2017 06:56 (three years ago) link

also that smell of entering a chamber of an etruscan ruin that hasn't been exposed for a couple and a half millennia with the cold, cold marble and all the clay wine vessels, cold marble and clay and wine and the cessation of time and memory, that's also a good one i think would sell a few units.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 22 April 2017 08:12 (three years ago) link

Excellent info, thanks!

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Sunday, 23 April 2017 20:05 (three years ago) link

the non-drinky version of my last two posts is first, that i tried the polo blue because it has a cucumber note but i couldn't make it out. mostly i got basil which is a different green than i was looking for. the hermes un jardin sur le nil has nice tomato (i thought it had tomato leaf, which is sharp and acrid, but i think it's just the tomato fruit?)and carrot notes, i figure i'd like more in that vein, salad scents.

second, sometimes skin acts weird or your nose is all stuffy and that can really warp the way a fragrance smells; once under those conditions i was getting impressions of cold marble or ceramics, heavy, uncirculated air, and wine, but the scent of wine from an empty bottle instead of actual wine, all from a fragrance that didn't smell like any of that ordinarily. it wasn't bad, though, it smelled as if it were consciously composed like that, accords that are reminiscent of ancient places or things.

then i had too much jameson and posted some inscrutable blarp about salads and scary ruins.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 29 April 2017 04:12 (three years ago) link

i didn't care for the hermes un jardin sur le toit last time i tried it, because mostly it was all apple, but this time i got the grass note, which i like a lot. i vaguely remember smelling gap grass in the 90s,
i dunno about comparing gap to hermes but it seemed nice at the time.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 29 April 2017 04:27 (three years ago) link

it was rainy and mild today so i borrowed some of my brother's vetiver guerlain for another go-round. today, it was pretty good. i still think it's too much for the heat but really nice for spring weather, so i'm not off it altogether. the citrus and green notes seemed more in balance with the heavier woody and aromatic notes. i was able to pick up some pepper in the middle so that's always a bonus when i can detect notes i couldn't before.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 30 April 2017 04:47 (three years ago) link

picked up laura biagiotti roma for myself and mugler cologne for my bf: roma is like a creamy vanilla-y benzoin with orange/bergamot, pine needles and a kind of pleasant musty note that smells a bit like visiting someone's else's house. the mugler is musky metallic neroli soap, really lovely, just wish the longevity were better.

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the world's little sunbeam (in orbit), Sunday, 30 April 2017 14:01 (three years ago) link

Sorry, Idk what happened, but OH OH OH ROMA IS MY FAVE!!! I started with a sample vial of it over 20 years ago that I got on a trip somewhere and then couldn't find it again for a decade or more, and then my parents went to Paris and my mom got me a huge bottle that I've barely made a dent in and it's probably gone off now. Truly my fave since I was a teenager.

But I never wear perfume. I wish I did. I just don't.

the world's little sunbeam (in orbit), Sunday, 30 April 2017 14:03 (three years ago) link

i love it. did you have the femme version? i'd like to try that. really wish the weather would warm up here so it'd feel more apt to wear.

clouds, Sunday, 30 April 2017 14:43 (three years ago) link

Yes I suppose it is. I think it's just called Roma, not "Roma for Women" or something. Now I wonder what Roma for Men smells like. Probably better, because I like woodsy and spicy and citrusy smells.

the world's little sunbeam (in orbit), Sunday, 30 April 2017 14:50 (three years ago) link

ALSO BREAKING NEWS I learned that someone I know socially works at a fragrance house compounding scents for everything from personal care products to laundry detergent!!!

He said there's a chemical they use that smells exactly like potting soil but it's proprietary. Now I'm curious.

ASK ALL YOUR QUESTIONS and I shall endeavor to get answers.

the world's little sunbeam (in orbit), Sunday, 30 April 2017 14:51 (three years ago) link

Honestly for those of you who wear scent, how many hours of the day does it last you? When I'm out of the house for 12 hours I feel like any scent I use is only going to be there for half the day--the other half I'm going to smell like my lunch plus sweat from running up and down the stairs at school.

the world's little sunbeam (in orbit), Sunday, 30 April 2017 14:59 (three years ago) link

i make frags "stretch" a bit by putting jojoba/avocado/almond oil on my skin before spraying - the fragrance melds with the oil and seems to stay present for longer

clouds, Sunday, 30 April 2017 15:14 (three years ago) link

it's tricky because a lot of the ones that really hang around all day are the most cloying

a landlocked exclave (mh), Sunday, 30 April 2017 20:31 (three years ago) link

I don't own more than one bottle of cologne at a time, so I usually go for broke
I wear Creed "Virgin Island Water" it is the second-best smell
Frederic Malle "Bigerade Concentree" remains the best smell, if I date a man I will buy it for them
Creed "Millisme" was circulated for a time but it faintly smells like urine
Creed "Vetiver" is nice enough but boring over time
Le Labo "Bergamot" was worn for a while but then all my NYC gay friends poached it and now it's in bathrooms at the Ace
I bought Creed "Aventus" for my manager and she loves it

fgti, Monday, 1 May 2017 03:36 (three years ago) link

i read something about how creed claims to have lineage back to napoleon and george iii but no one can find any evidence of them existing before 1975 lol

clouds, Monday, 1 May 2017 04:00 (three years ago) link

Very plausible. Still love more of their stuff (Aventus, Silver Mt. Water, Millesime Imperial) than I dislike (Green Irish Tweed).

insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Monday, 1 May 2017 15:04 (three years ago) link

"Virgin Island Water" is also a fantastic smell, but one I wouldn't feel at all guilty opting for an imitation thereof.

insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Monday, 1 May 2017 15:27 (three years ago) link

Went down the wormhole of a Fragrantica thread on Creed 1975 claims, and my main takeaway was ... you either love or loathe Creed.

insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Monday, 1 May 2017 15:27 (three years ago) link

found the creed scents nice but incredibly strong. one squiff of it and i felt drenched in scent.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 1 May 2017 15:34 (three years ago) link

the roma, yatagan, kokorico, philosykos, tam dao, and timbuktu samples are coming, so i can check those off. also ordered moschino uomo?, dsquared he wood rocky mountain wood, and the lalique homme lion and hommage a l'homme for the heck of it.

they didn't have the mugler cologne, which i really wanted to try for summer, but i figure it'll pop up sooner or later.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 7 May 2017 07:04 (three years ago) link

lalique lion and moschino uomo are on my wishlist -- actually ordered another moschino frag for my bf, fresh couture. supposed to be v floral and citrusy and probably v good for this high spring weather.

also snagged gaultier's fleur du male as it's been mostly unavailable everywhere and i think it's discontinued. reviewers say it's a strong herbal white flower nuke and has godlike longevity so looking forward to it. will write more once it's finally here.

clouds, Sunday, 7 May 2017 13:02 (three years ago) link

they determined that having real-sounding artificial frags like the "every man jack" or whatever brand is cool

lag∞n (mh), Monday, 8 May 2017 20:53 (three years ago) link

JPG fleur du male came in and omg this is so good -- smells like a white florals explosion for the first hour then fades into a delicious dirt and fresh green hay note that lasts literally until you shower, and even then there's still a hint of it.

moschino fresh couture is really nice too but totally different, like flowery bubblegum-flavored soda but not cheap or cloying. definitely feels like a "going for a walk in tank tops and shorts" kind of frag. the bottle is real cute too:

clouds, Sunday, 14 May 2017 22:38 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

tam dao and philosykos are pretty straight-up good. i get the whole fig tree deal from the philosykos - fruit, leaf, wood. can't separate the woods in the tam dao but but it seems more sandlewoody and the rose isn't really distinct on skin but i can pick it up fine out of the vial. would like to compare the l'artisan premier figuier extreme to the philosykos since it can be had for less than half the price discounted, but if i were just buying a few decent things instead of dicking around with everything that looked interesting i'd get the tam dao and philosykos.

the kokorico, i can't settle on an opinion even though it's a really compelling scent i keep sticking my nose to. there's some kind of discordance between the fig leaf, patchouli, and cacao notes (can't really make out the cedar and vetiver), and i'm getting a sort of ghost floral note like a desiccated rose, even though that's not in there. the notes don't seem to be blending together to make a composite scent, but they're stepping on each other in a manner that the notes i though were familiar by now are slightly unrecognizable as their true selves, like the fig leaf is an evil doppelganger of the fig leaf i smelled in other scents, and so on. i think this is what people who live inside david lynch films wear, there's something sinister going on here that maybe you shouldn't have let in but now it's marked you. nb just my impression.

the lalique pour homme (lion) i think is really nice for something that's not that exciting. seems very traditional and self-possessed

roma and yatagan are as clouds described, can't add anything.

moschino uomo? is a nice musky scent but i'm not getting the citrus as strong as i'd hoped for or any of the notes in particular. it's a soft scent so maybe i'll have to empty out the whole sprayer.

slugbuggy, Friday, 2 June 2017 15:51 (three years ago) link

i cut off the lion comment - it seems traditional and calm and centered but also upbeat and optimistic. the lavender and vanilla soften each other up, neither one is heavy or overbearing, just kept at a pleasant volume, but the citruses and vanilla interact to give it an orange creamsicle vibe that perks things up a bit.

slugbuggy, Friday, 2 June 2017 16:03 (three years ago) link

lalique is such a good price on discount sites atm, wish i wasn't broke or i'd buy it

i think i'm gonna try and collect most of the guerlains? habit rouge, vetiver, insolence, l'heure bleu, samsara, shalimar, mitsouko, heritage. i could probably just stop collecting with those 8 frags.

clouds, Sunday, 4 June 2017 22:23 (three years ago) link

i used to like vetiver a lot.

surm, Monday, 5 June 2017 18:24 (three years ago) link

clouds where in the world do you live

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Monday, 5 June 2017 22:48 (three years ago) link

chicago, why?

clouds, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 13:01 (three years ago) link

Samsara and Shalimar are my faves for the lack of flowery smells but I cant wear them because they've been my mom's signature perfumes as long as I can remember so Dry Idea it is.

It's always (sunny successor), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 14:19 (three years ago) link

Try food smells - vanilla - fruit - cinamon - moke

Dean of the University (Latham Green), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 15:24 (three years ago) link

I can donate the vetiver to your nascent collection, wondered if your are stateside. Need your addy but my ilx web mail goes into the void so uh we'll figure something out.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 19:37 (three years ago) link

omg email me girl! i'm d o m i n y c o r e y @ g m a i l. com (no spaces obv)

clouds, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 19:40 (three years ago) link

holy shit y'all

he not like the banana (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 19:47 (three years ago) link

can I borrow $90 plz?

he not like the banana (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 19:47 (three years ago) link

I don't even want to own them I just want to smell them once or maybe twice

he not like the banana (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 19:49 (three years ago) link

what kind of frags do you like?

clouds, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 20:04 (three years ago) link

gosh I don't even know at this point, I haven't fucked w them in a v long time. At this point I wear CdG Amazingreen once every few months and also a combination of Demeter Dirt + Grass (often just Dirt tho)

he not like the banana (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 20:25 (three years ago) link

i'll bet you would like l'occitane eau de l'occitan, i was wearing at work and my supervisor walked by and was like "it smells like a BARNYARD in here! but in a good way!"

clouds, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 20:32 (three years ago) link

My bf wears the shit out of L'Occitane Bavx and Cade and maybe the Cedrat? I wish he liked sandalwood but he hates it.

Conic section rebellion 44 (in orbit), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 21:21 (three years ago) link

baux is sooooo fucking good, that's gonna be one of my winter scents this year for sure

clouds, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 22:51 (three years ago) link

stevie give guerlain vetiver a sniff and tell me what you think!

― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Monday, March 16, 2015 8:49 PM (two years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Apparently I have been trying to re-home my bottle of Vetiver for a while. This is a good sign that it is time. All yours, clouds--I'll e-mail ya shortly.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Thursday, 8 June 2017 23:18 (three years ago) link


clouds, Friday, 9 June 2017 14:45 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

i got amazingreen because it was on sale and i figured i should just go for it because if i got a sample first it's be gone at that price if i liked it. it is really sweet, i assume there's an overabundance of calone, but it doesn't feel blue or aquatic to me either, just dewy. i really get the gunpowder accord, which cuts against the sweetness. other than that it just seems green; i can't pick out the green pepper from the palm leaf or ivy or vetiver or whatnot.

i get how ppl think it's generic and mainstream because the sweetness always stays on top so there you go but also i can't see it as a legit populist fragrance because that gunpowder accord is a bit too earthy and off-putting for that sort of thing. i also like the bvlgari aqua marine for the same reason, in that there's a battle between the stank-monster seaweed note and the sweet citrus/ floral notes that never resolves.

i got a bunch of samples too but i'm not gonna dig them out to go through them all now. off the top, i got the escentric molecules escentric 01, and like mh said upthread, the iso e super effect is more pronounced when it's used with other notes. i should probably have gotten the molecule 01 to compare, but i was afraid i wouldn't smell anything at all.

i got l'artisan premier figuier and tea for two, too. diptyque philosykos over the l'artisan but you can get the l'artisan for cheaper and they're both olivia giacobetti creations but in this case i figure go for the gold. the tea for two is like the gucci pour homme II without the violet leaf note so it's warmer but i like both so i dunno.

i also got l'artisan passage d'enfer and seville a l'aube (i dug through all my samples) and they're ok. passage is a modest incense fragrance, and the seville is really strong with orange blossom and beeswax. orange blossom smells like dish soap to me but here it's kept in check by the beeswax. neroli i like; one's an absolute and one's an extract of the same flower but i forget which one's which. like the beeswax note enough because i wanted to see if it's different from a strictly honey note and it is so i'm gonna try the lanvin avant garde which is also predominantly beeswax plus tobacco and ginger and the other usual suspects.

then i got bottles of lalique lion and aramis tuscany. the lion is baseline boring. just lavender, citrus, cedar, vanilla, the most basic of basics, but of the highest quality. to me it's an assurance that you can weather all the bullshit. all you need is love, love is all you need. the tuscany has a leathery, citrusy opening that's one of my favorite things ever, but it doesn't persevere and it turns into an azzaro pour homme clone, which i already have. i don't remember if i had a bottle of tuscany back in the day or just the sample vial but it's a memory scent for me, a cousin to armani pour homme, so i'll brook no quarrel.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 26 August 2017 08:33 (three years ago) link

also, clouds, do you have or have you smelled the habit rouge yet? i wanted to try it again in the winter because i figured my reaction was tempered by trying it out in warm weather when it would have been pushed in odd directions by the heat, but i forgot to try it again last winter. in the summery broil the powdery rose aspect bloomed irrepressibly, but i figure under more temperate conditions it would be more of a piece. also the heritage, have you smelled it or is it a want to try thing? also, how's the vetiver?

slugbuggy, Saturday, 26 August 2017 08:47 (three years ago) link

i went to perfumania and perfume outlet at the nearest outlet mall and they had so many outre things, compared to the usual mall shops. givenchy xeryus rouge, reyane insurrection pure II, muelhens 4711, ferrari uomo, mercedes benz intense, things that exist in the interzone between the upmarket and mainstream with the chanel and the mugler and the downmarket discount stores with the guess and the tim mcgraw and the diesel. for an hoir i told the sales associate everything i knew about fragrance from the internet and she told me a bunch of shit i knew not to be true so there was a stalemate.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 26 August 2017 10:04 (three years ago) link

*hour*. sorry, signed jameson.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 26 August 2017 10:06 (three years ago) link

I loled at the tim mcgraw quip and on second thought did a google and now I'm horrified to known that tim mcgraw cologne actually exists

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Saturday, 26 August 2017 13:13 (three years ago) link

oh goodness aqva atlaniqve was one of the worst frags i've ever encountered. i absolutely hated it.

i also got aramis tuscany and that has been one of my daily scents with grey flannel and l'occitan. i love how that turmeric/cumin-y funkiness seems to be at odds with the soapy moss but it all just harmonizes so well and is unassumingly brilliant.

habit rouge l'eau is like amaro montenegro meets rose-flavored bubblegum. too weird to wear every day, better for going out drinking or a friend's wedding reception or pottering around the apartment.

clouds, Saturday, 26 August 2017 23:20 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

atlantiqve is gross, because sauvage, which is what things smell like now. i want to regard designer scents as cultural products that olfactorily summarize the zeitgeist (cf la male, ck one, joop homme, eternity, drakkar noir, polo green, these things feel like places in time) but this seems like a bad direction to be heading towards. i tried the prada luna rossa carbon because the coal and metallic notes made it seem like a cdg type of thing, synthetic and industrial, but it's just too amboxan-dominant in the us-too sauvauge lineage. sauvage might be good for other ppl to smell on you distantly in the ambient aura sense, which is really import-int and often overlooked because spraying something on yr wrist and sticking yr nose in it is only part of the gestalt, but i don't like it on myself and find it obtrusively pandering and unbalanced and that's really saying something since i'm pretty sure i don't know what i'm talking about generally and i figure if other ppl like a thing then that's what they should have but jesus would cast out sauvage from his presence and i'm not some kind of apostate. i got d&g the one because i thought i should catch up to what's going on since i checked out 25 yrs ago but the ambroxan really dominates. i love versace man (2003, i'm liking the 00s) even though there's an abundance of ambroxan but the tobacco and saffron notes are like the sober friends who get on the karaoke machine and sing "a miracle of love" after the ambroxan goes through three sweaty rounds of "bulls on parade" and thinks he's killing it. the aqva marine is gross because of the seaweed note but it's the kind of stinky i like, even though it's from the same year as the d&g.

my brother has aramis havana and it's also pretty good, like the tuscany. it's from 1994 but smells like deep 80s to me, maybe even late 70s. it's tobacco and patchouli riding on top of a soapy oakmoss, with some herbalness and spiciness. i couldn't really make out what it was supposed to be note-wise except old-school until i looked it up because to my nose it's kinda well-blended but i sprayed some on and forgot about it and it obliquely worked its way into my consciousness, falling on my head like a memory, falling on my head like a new emotion. in summary and in conclusion, it's ok.

i have the azzaro visit but the pepper has overtook the incense as the dominant note so i ordered bentley absolute and lalique encre noire l'extreme samples. also l'occitane eaux des baux, which i was wary of because i have soooo much stuff in which the vanilla punches all my dance cards, but this could be the one this time.

i also ordered samples of versace versus, geuerlain l'instant edp because i felt the edt sample i got last year was a little weak, cartier declaration (i had the declaration essence but not the original), and frederick malle bigarade concentree, which i hope i don't like too much because of price.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 16 September 2017 07:27 (three years ago) link

^^^^this guy, killing it

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Saturday, 16 September 2017 12:36 (three years ago) link

really interested in how you find the bentley as that's on my wantlist too (along with other stuff by lorson), azzaro visit also since i seem to have become an annick menardo fan.

baux is great, you won't regret it. i've been waiting for the weather to cool off before i get a bottle for myself.

clouds, Saturday, 16 September 2017 16:38 (three years ago) link

visit is a bit much in the opening, there's a lot of pepper and bergamot and nutmeg and some ginger along with the incense. maybe the weather is too warm still and those notes are more subdued when it's colder. towards the middle it calms down and it's mostly incense and woods, and i get ambergris and maybe musk in the base. it's got a distinct incense note, more like an unlit incense stick rather than the smell of the smoke, and it's only about 20 bucks online, so there's that, but i still like cdg 2 man better for an incense fragrance.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 23 September 2017 05:31 (three years ago) link

it's a pretty good pepper and/ or incense frag for the price but i don't think it's essential menardo, compared to roma or black or kokorico.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 23 September 2017 07:01 (three years ago) link

eau des baux is so good i want to spray it on my body so i can walk around all day and smell it. it's that good! i can't as of yet pull out all the individual notes, like i couldn't even tell it has incense or cypress specifically, but i don't care. if it happens, it happens.

bentley absolute is is pretty much what i thought, a really resinous, oud-woody thing, dark but soft and rich, but when it dries down it turns into kenzo pour homme: there's that slightly plasticy oceanic note. i don't know what to think about that. the nose for the absolute is michel almairac, who did gucci pour homme I, lorson did the bentley intense (which has a rum note that's not in the absolute)and most of the other bentleys, just in case you were thinking of the intense.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 24 September 2017 07:38 (three years ago) link

versace versus uomo, i can't tell yet. i have a 1 ml vial, so i'm smelling it in concentrated form from smelling the stem and just dabbing it on as opposed to getting the ambient experience from generous spraying, but i get intense fruit notes off the top, specifically peach, which i've not encountered in a gentleman's fragrance. it's supposed to also be herbal and floral and woody and resinous and spicy and vanillic and tonka-ey, ie, transitional in that it's from that interzone period where it's still the 80s so it's expected to be heavy and butch but not really, looking towards an enlightened and liberatory esthetic, but not there yet, like where kevin and julie on the first real world season have to go round and round about racism because the term privilege wasn't something you could just drop and be done with at the time.

this smells like what it meant to be young in 1991, back to life, however do you want me, i just want to be close to you, you're unbelievable. some stuff that's old smells old and some stuff that's old smells like what it meant to be young when it was new.

nb i might change my mind when i get a better wearing of this.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 24 September 2017 08:47 (three years ago) link

i also got a tommy hilfiger loud sample because of the bbc perfume documentary, despite the reviews that said it was synthetic and crap and crap and generic and crap and crap. there's only three listed notes, rose and patchouli and tobacco, how can you fuck that up? kudos for fucking that up. i can't detect patchouli or tobacco, and barely any rose. if you've seen the doc you'd know how much effort went into the marketing and presentation of this debacle. tommy hilfiger shows up to a very important pre-launch finalization meeting and gives the fragrance a half-assed sniff and oks it and bitches about the bottle design and that's it. how the fuck is what i'm smelling the same thing he was smelling. so much effort went into getting the styling perfect for the ting-ting's video for the ad campaign and finding patchouli plants to impart the relevant vibe to the merchants of cool invited to the official launch party that i'm losing my religion over the ability of the capitalist machine to sell me the zietgeist in physical form in the things i consume, since you have no control over the black box that exists between intent and outcome anymore. goddamn, polo green sold the colonialist preppy dream but made it real, made it a thing
where you could buy into the fantasy without reservation, so fuck you, tommy hilfiger, for killing the dream of the 80s that branding was a thing you could depend on.

in summary and in conclusion, i give it a pass.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 24 September 2017 09:44 (three years ago) link

lalique encre noire l'extreme, i thought it would be even darker and smokier than the regular, but it's actually weirder and harder to get my mind around. this is some niche-level shit i don't have the knowledge base to assess.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 24 September 2017 10:09 (three years ago) link

frederic malle bigarade concentree: it is so choice, if you have the means, i highly recommend picking one up. i smelled it and thought, this is so much a jean-claude ellena composition, i'm really good at this. then i thought, i already knew that, so stop it. but it is, it's like if terre d'hermes eau tres fraiche were a part of the jardin series. it has the bitter orange and cedar of the terre and the rose and grass from the jardin sur le tois; it's transparent and ethereal but it's out of my price range.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 24 September 2017 10:44 (three years ago) link

tommy hilfiger: that's not my name, that's not my name, that's not my name. shut up and let me go.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 24 September 2017 10:51 (three years ago) link

The one I've been using all year is named after a Pixies song:

I've been a DS & Durga loyalist for years now. All their stuff is outstanding.

mike t-diva, Sunday, 24 September 2017 11:13 (three years ago) link

i've never even heard of that house; there's so much stuff to sort out that i don't look in any particular direction until someone says something and then it's on my radar. i don't even know how other people find what's good or for them; there's so many niche and indie perfumers that not being in an environment where this is a part of my existence i wouldn't even know where to start. but now that i know there's an actual song-to-scent transliteration i have to find out.

i was in a perfumania outlet to sift through the dustbin of history and a consummate flatbiller, he could actually have been bubba sparxxx for all i know, beefy manhood and perfectly matched cap, jersey, shorts, kicks, came in and requested of the sales associate a sampling of the paris hilton potion, to which he gave his assent after whiffing and posthaste made his purchase and thereupon departed the premises. i hated him because he knew who he was and what he wanted. i kind of miss when all i had access to was in the mall and that's all i knew existed.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 24 September 2017 13:32 (three years ago) link

the debaser has a pear stem note! not just pear, but pear stem. i remember from the age of the dinosaurs, i didn't even know that notes were a thing, obsession smelled like obsession and that was that, i can't get used to this lifestyle.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 24 September 2017 13:45 (three years ago) link

nb i assume ppl aren't posting here just for my edification but i'm really on this tip and get carried away.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 24 September 2017 14:15 (three years ago) link

I follow this thread obsessively, cannot begin to match slugbuggy posts so I just sit back and enjoy.

Last weekend I was in airport duty free and put on some Chanel 19, which was my sole scent from age 18 to 28. Now I am 43 and just don't like it, can't really understand the chick who did.

I also put on some Diorissimo which I found too fruity (peach?) upfront but more my style than the 19.

Need to try some La Panthere. Old ladyish is more interesting to me these days than Chanel Chance and all the other young gal stuff.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Sunday, 24 September 2017 16:00 (three years ago) link

kinda need a new daily scent - i've been using clinique "happy" for a long time - not partic exciting but don't feel the need to blow my coworkers away or wear a hugely expensive scent day in day out. i have wonderwood and one or two others for more special occasions. have considered aesop, pretty simple but distinctive.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 25 September 2017 11:22 (three years ago) link

I use Musgo Real No 1 (Orange Amber) for work. I like the smell, it's relatively cheap and it doesn't feel like I'm flirting with my colleagues. I suppose its a bit "old man" and/or "shops at Labour & Wait".

I've also got some Murdock samplers - the intention was that they were for away from work (to emphasise home/work) but I do often carry one with me.

I've recently discovered Miller & Harris (at a garden centre, of all place) and do like some of the bloke ones. They last well and seem kinda "grown up".

djh, Monday, 25 September 2017 22:16 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

i wore grey flannel today, because it was moderate temp-wise with some post-rain humidity in the air, perfect march weather that's not actually in march but that's what it was.

i'm really getting that bitter floral in the opening, which i think is narcissus flower? fragrantica voters cite hermes' eau de narcisse bleu as the closest analogue to gf. maybe it's the galbanum. i don't know either of those notes. memory is not your friend, but i remember the smell off the top of the splash bottle all those years ago, and it's not ringing the same bells. close your eyes and i'll kiss you, tomorrow i'll miss you. i remember there was a radiant ultraviolet glow and an oily leatheryness that's not in the current formulation. i'm trying to separate out selective memory from reality; i think all the current notes and accords were always there but the gestalt has side-shifted from sexhammer to a very you don't have the proper discernment to appreciate this niche construction. i think the current formulation is difficult but rewarding, while what i think i remember of the original is straight lothario.

there's a scene in the second miami vice episode, the first one in the proper series after the pilot episode, where crockett and tubbs are preparing to go out undercover, and sony is going click-click-click with the rotating cap of his patou pour homme, which i don't know from then but is really animalic and way too stinky for miami heat so totally crockett, tubbs, however, is seen pouring out the love potion from what could be none other then a grey flannel bottle, sleek nyc swag and style, steel blue eyes and open-shirted confidence, and i swear as much as i know that god is a bullet that the thing tubbs was melding with his eternal essence isn't the same thing as exists today as much as i know that gravity's rainbow isn't quite the same thing as infinite jest, which i have and swear i'm gonna read before the exam, sir.

i looked at the miller harris section of fragrantica and that seems like a good call if you're looking for a quality house that's traditional with serious intent but not too pretentious. it's like in a hitchcock movie, you know, where they tie you up in a rubber bag and throw you in the trunk of a car. you find fragrances. it seems like a quality house for people who like good things. also ds & durga, you could pick from a multitude of indie perfumers, i don't know where to start, but there's a vibe, they have fragrances with names like beartrapper and cowboy grass and mississippi medicine so i'm homing in on the artisanal buffalo burger and saffron-infused sweet potato fries thing, by which i mean, people in the future will refer back to this as totally emblematic of the zeitgeist in the nostalgia of the nostalgia of the period sense, cf i wore vintage 80s pendleton shirts back in the 10s, and i know it's that type of thing but in a post-post era game recognize game and you connect with what you can use. i haven't smelled any of their stuff but i can see how if your life circumstances put you where you have access to this sort of thing, which i readily don't, it would slot into your groove with satisfactory clearances.

there are people online who are indiscriminate, insofar as they consider themselves fragrance aficionados and their purview is the whole of fragranedom, it's just aromachemicals, labels are an artifice. that's right, but i still like the illusion that certain things are created for certain people in certain circumstances. this is what moms wore who drove ford ltds in 1978 and this is what was worn by gay men in clubs in 1993 and this is what suburban jocks wore in 1997 and this is what investment bankers wore in 1985 and this is what urban 20-something women in new media wore in 2008, because that's a thing that also happens.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 4 November 2017 07:41 (three years ago) link

by people online i mean the fragrance youtubers and bloggers who regard everything because it's all online, so i hear about things i wouldn't otherwise, but then i feel like i'm losing the natural progression like when you had to know where to find the right zines or have the right friends to find out about certain bands.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 4 November 2017 10:02 (three years ago) link

love vetiver and frederic malle vetiver extraordinaire is my go-to but now my supply is running low and I'm budgeting. I picked up a botle of Guerlain Vetiver at the duty free this week. Doesn't last long on my skin but does the trick. I paid too much for it, though, dammit, which I realized once I went online post-purchase to check its "regular" price in order to gloat.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 4 November 2017 11:50 (three years ago) link

quincie!!! i got your vetiver!!! thank you so much <3 <3 <3

clouds, Saturday, 4 November 2017 13:52 (three years ago) link

Oh god it only took like six months amirite? The box would still be sitting by the door had spouse not finally said "do you want me to mail this?" and dod the post office honors. What so you think of it?

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Saturday, 4 November 2017 13:59 (three years ago) link

love it - green, mossy, soapy, slightly funky and musky. definitely my new everyday scent!

clouds, Saturday, 4 November 2017 16:20 (three years ago) link

anyone rate byredo?

||||||||, Saturday, 4 November 2017 16:59 (three years ago) link

four weeks pass...

I went to Bloom Perfumery in Covent Garden today, which I highly recommended if you are in the area and after something different.

I ended up getting Vi Et Armis by Beaufort - the perfume line, oddly enough, put out by the drummer from The Prodigy. The collection has a strong and somewhat Problematic theme of swashbuckling derring-do in British history, albeit probably somewhat tongue in cheek, so there are lots of references to gunpowder, blood, the sea and the fruits of empire. The one I got has huge amounts of tea and cold smoke. I also picked up a sample of 1805 Tonnerre which has a really aggressive smoke and lime combination and may not be entirely wearable.

I liked some of the Imaginary Authors line too - particularly Memoirs of a Tresspasser with a clever mix of apple, vanilla and subtle smoke.

The shop does a mail order sample pack service which I have already signed up to. Really nice, well-informed staff with no hard sell.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Saturday, 2 December 2017 23:50 (three years ago) link

I have noticed the 1805 dries down to a much more approachable animalic leather so may be worth further investigation.

They also stock the dirt-cheap Russian drug-store brand Brocard for some mysterious reason. I picked up a bottle of Колдун, which the woman in the shop translated as “shaman” but I’m 99% sure means “wizard”, which is much dorkier. Either way, it’s a very pleasant Terre d’Hermes copy.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Sunday, 3 December 2017 01:11 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I have great handfuls of samples from Bloom now and have been wearing a different one each day. Yesterday was A City On Fire by Imaginary Authors - a fragrance compared to both an autumn campfire and Guy Fieri’s Smoky BBQ Sauce, depending on who you ask. It has a fairly strong bonfire smell to me - warm and rounded rather than particularly acrid. I did briefly think it developed into a much more strident, complex smouldering accord later on but it turned out that someone had set fire to the bin outside of Argos in Chatham shortly before I walked past.

Underneath the smoke there is a strong over-ripe red berry / juniper thing going on. I often like the boozy, fecund smell of slowly decaying fruit irl (I have fond memories of intoxicating orchards groaning under the weight of enormous mystery fruit on the outskirts of Guilin) but idk if I want to carry it around with me all day.

Today I am wearing Gin & Tonic by Art de Parfum which smells like gin and tonic.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Sunday, 17 December 2017 11:33 (three years ago) link

1270 by Frapin, commemorating the year the cognac house was founded, smells like someone unaccountably serving pineapple alongside the fruitcake, brandy and chocolates after Christmas dinner. The fragrance also reminds me a little of the honeyed sweetness of Serge Lutens’ Arabie - which has candied orange iirc. It’s nice but I prefer the oriental fantasy of Lutens tbh.

Camel by Zoologist also has candied fruits of some description and smells much more authentically Arabian than the Lutens - or most European ‘oriental’ fragrances. It’s much heavier but stops short of being dominated by oud, which a lot of the region’s perfumes are. Frankincense and myrrh make it festive. Civet (synthetic) reminds you that most of the story takes place in a barn.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Thursday, 21 December 2017 09:33 (three years ago) link

These are great reviews Sharivari.

how's life, Thursday, 21 December 2017 10:10 (three years ago) link

i am venturing into this world. sampled a limited selection last week and really dug the YDL L'homme Intense

brimstead, Thursday, 21 December 2017 18:28 (three years ago) link


brimstead, Thursday, 21 December 2017 18:28 (three years ago) link

I asked for Coco for Christmas and now I feel so amateurish and uninteresting compared to this thread. But tbrr someone sprayed me with it a couple of weeks ago and I felt very expensive and it lasted like 12 hours with different notes and I was intrigued.

Conic section rebellion 44 (in orbit), Thursday, 21 December 2017 18:48 (three years ago) link

all the Chanels smell expensive and that is the whole point; ie your choice of Coco is highly rational.

horseshoe, Thursday, 21 December 2017 18:50 (three years ago) link

I got so into perfume a few years back, but now I just wear Mitsouko on fancy occasions and Mandragore in summer when I feel like smelling something pleasant all day.

horseshoe, Thursday, 21 December 2017 18:52 (three years ago) link

I have and love Coco!

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Thursday, 21 December 2017 19:18 (three years ago) link

my mom wore Coco, and it's the kind of thing I'd probably like, but it just has this overwhelming association with my mom.

otherwise these days I rotate between rochas femme, bottega veneta eau de velours, and various lutens. yes I'm a cliche, thanks for asking

sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Thursday, 21 December 2017 19:21 (three years ago) link

I’m always intrigued by how smell and memory have this complex relationship. Certain scents immediately bring experiences to mind, and remembering events sometimes have a specific smell memory associated

A coworker mentioned a certain building at work having an odd smell and I couldn’t remember it, until I thought about a particular time I’d been there and boom, there it was. And I could more vividly remember events that had happened there.

This is also why Chanel No. 5 causes me to feel irritated! Too many stressful memories.

mh, Thursday, 21 December 2017 19:30 (three years ago) link

(xp: the bottega veneta's probably my favorite recent scent, a spiced-plum leather that with my luck is probably going to be discontinued since it's both a flanker and really good)

sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Thursday, 21 December 2017 19:34 (three years ago) link

Proust to thread xp

brimstead, Thursday, 21 December 2017 21:12 (three years ago) link

i got miller harris la fumee and montale full incense samples. i can't decide between the two. ideally i'd still get cdg man 2 but it's never discounted enough. cdg is only moderately costly and something to just get but i'm bouncing around from thing to thing and if she knew what she wants he'd be giving it to her but she wants everything. mh and montale are affordable enough and can be found discounted, so they make more sense from my pov. montale is slightly creamier and earthier, miller harris is more floral and spicy, but both have a discernibly prominent and persistent incense note, unlike other stuff i've tried in which the incense is integral but blended into the gestalt. there are pricier niche houses like amouage that are lousy with incense frags but at those price points i don't have the discernment to justify the cost difference; i feel like the cover of fleetwood mac's mystery to me in this situation.

i've given up on the azzaro visit as an incense frag per se, but it's a nice fresh-spicy type of thing, where the incense and pepper and other spices coalesce into a vague smoke accord and the bergamot smooths it out rather than seeming like an afterthought to cover up the the litany of individual notes all barking for attention i was getting when it was warmer. i could detect a distinct incense note before when the temp was higher, but the overall effect was chaos. i can't much tell any individual notes now, but now it's achieved actualization, so there's that. it's nice, it smells good, it's ok. we can be heroes, just for one day, for about twenty bucks.

i also got a givenchy xeryus rouge sample because annick menardo, who is grebt and did laura biogetti roma and bvlgari black, so it was worth trying out. it's a different kind of fresh-spicy. there's a cactus note contrasted with a pimento note. it feels very generic and mainstream, in the sense there's not a lot of texture, just this kind o accord and that kind of accord, but it's generic and mainstream in a slightly divergent world where love like blood and proud to fall were top ten pop hits and the apotheosis of mall culture.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 23 December 2017 06:30 (three years ago) link

nb using terms like generic and mainstream implies i have enhanced sensibilities which i do not. if it weren't for the internet and reference sites i'd have no idea what was in anything or have any any notion o the history of perfumery whatsoeverhow. i wonder about authenticity; sometines i feel like i'm wearing a notion i got from a blog post instead of an actual scent i enjoy. my fantasy has turned to madness; i will have you, i will collect you and capture you. i feel like there's meaning to smells like there's meaning to music that i sense but don't quite get but everyone else does. there's an artistry to niche scents that requires a knowledge base of aromatic structure and the attendant nudging of subtle nuances but otoh historically nothing contains multitudes like the unabashed punch of a zeitgeisty designer offering that doesn't give a fudge about subtlety.

also i am posting drunk again.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 23 December 2017 08:08 (three years ago) link

Bvlgari Black is one of my all-time favourites, at least in the formulation I have from about ten years ago. It’s such an odd fragrance for something so inexpensive and widely available - vanilla and tea but a huge hit of rubber and burnt sugar to go along with it.

You def get some niche houses willing to push the envelope but there are just as many that’ll sell you a bottle of Ambroxan + iso E Super for $150 and call it art.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Saturday, 23 December 2017 08:23 (three years ago) link

"sometines i feel like i'm wearing a notion i got from a blog post instead of an actual scent i enjoy"

I'd say this is true in a sense that goes way beyond fragrances and stretches out to the enjoyment of music and art sometimes too, to varying degrees.

Also: booming posts all.

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 23 December 2017 09:42 (three years ago) link

I’ve got (well I say, “got” but share a bottle of) La Fumée as well and really like it but have to be in the right mood for it. For MH, I prefer Feiulles de Tabac, which is warmer and smokier and dries down really nicely.

Chanel is great tbh there’s no shame there - esp as they still make their own perfume in house and have their own perfumery where they source a lot of their ingredients. No 5 has never worked on me - too soapy - but Chance is an all time favourite.

The most recent perfume I got was YSL’s Cinéma last year - think it’s now discontinued - based on reading recommendations from stuff I already liked on Basenotes. It’s lovely but evaporates in under ten minutes, a tragedy.

If they haven’t been recommended already, the CdG incense fragrances are gorgeous. Particularly like Avignon and Jaisalmer.

I think liking what you like is really the only thing that matters and perfume is fun but so off putting once you go online and see people talking authoritatively about formulations and heart notes. Having said that, I found the Luca Turin/Tania Sanchez book 10/10 for the way they talked about perfume as experience and feeling, although some of the descriptions are a bit off putting.

gyac, Saturday, 23 December 2017 18:33 (three years ago) link

Paloma Picasso? Thoughts? Perfume not the lady/jewelry/etc.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Saturday, 23 December 2017 21:18 (three years ago) link

the description sounds great and it's on my wishlist, but never tried! the bottle looks really cool

clouds, Sunday, 24 December 2017 07:06 (three years ago) link

it's... fine, not particularly my thing. I find it more masculine than a lot of actual masculine fragrances

sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Monday, 25 December 2017 04:56 (three years ago) link

Replica's "Soul of the Forest" has dried really well on me.. It's making me question my initial reactions to the other scents I sampled Friday, much of them seemed too cool and sharp for my rudimentary taste

brimstead, Monday, 25 December 2017 19:15 (three years ago) link

master: as quickly as you can, snatch the pebble from my...

brimstead: *snatches pebble*

master: damn, grasshopper

slugbuggy, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 06:50 (three years ago) link

i kid but that's way faster than i figured that out - the landscape kinda changes as you move around it but doing so also changes you so there's maybe no privileged pov, only where you are at any point, or something. whatever the point was that seems like a good point to have, at that point.

in related news, i got a 100 ml cdg 2 man for crimbus presents. when i got the sample i thought it was the only game in town. now that i've sampled the aforementioned miller harris and montale i know there are more incensey incenses, and stuff i haven't even tried yet, but this is like the epitome of high-end designer or low-end niche, for me. it's where i want to be. i get enough note separation to feel like i can see how the main players bounce off each other but otoh there's just the visceral impact of liking the gestalt of how it smells, so there's that.

in return i gave my brother armani pour homme and encre noire. he likes the armani enough, he's all about the classics, i could have given him dior eau sauvage, the original not the johnny depp sauvage which shoudn't share the same name, dior, we lived in italy when we were younger, it's very italian, i can borrow it. encre noire is pretty good, wonderwood is the only woodier thing i know but it's all the woods; that's too much wood.

slugbuggy, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 08:26 (three years ago) link

the armani is not quite the same, but it gets it nonetheless - i have a 90s vintage mini and a current reformulation mini. they did what they could, given how things are now. at least it's a proper reformulation; they admit it and aren't trying to sneak anything past anyone by pretending otherwise. o, armani, how werest thou the soul of manly elegance! that ad campaign. lookit that guy in the print ads. you never him. there's real 1984 in there in a way that you can't ever know unless know what it means to know what it sounds like when doves cry.

slugbuggy, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 09:46 (three years ago) link

i'm dreading reading this tomorrow when i'm soberer.

slugbuggy, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 09:47 (three years ago) link

I love your posts slugbuddy

droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 09:58 (three years ago) link

We all do!

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 10:51 (three years ago) link

feel like there's a correlation between talking about fragrances and ski jumping: many may know what they're doing and have perfect technique but the guy that downed a half-pint of maker's mark before hurdling down the slope is gonna provide a hellava show.

slugbuggy, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 10:51 (three years ago) link

i don't mean to drag anyone else into my soused ramblings but the three day interval from brimstead's "hi, i'm new to this and am trying out some things" post to the "restructuring my process to include new data such as how a scent changes throughout development; consequently am considering how new objective approaches to formal qualities of the observed affects subjective perspective of observer" (that's how i'm reading it, re: questioning tastes and impressions) post seemed like a really accelerated evolution.

slugbuggy, Friday, 29 December 2017 05:37 (three years ago) link

in my experience this is shockingly common with this

sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Friday, 29 December 2017 06:37 (three years ago) link

yeah, i might be an outlier but it took me a while longer to figure out neither i nor what i was smelling were fixed entities. more than three days, anyway. like sometimes i smell something months later and it's totally different because it's now a different season and the thing presents itself differently, or maybe i've encountered similar notes and accords enough to have references to fall back on and it's not a new thing anymore.

slugbuggy, Friday, 29 December 2017 08:38 (three years ago) link

also i excluded my entire mid-80s to early 90s go-round where none of these concepts existed whatsoever in my consciousness, like seasonality or development or note breakdown or quality of materials (tbh designer output back then was top-notch, if there was a butterfly wing note in a fragrance then you could be assured there were real butterfly wings in it, until all the butterflies were gone). i'd get grey flannel and it smelled like grey flannel and i'd wear it for every occasion year-round til i ran out and then i'd get giorgio red and do the same thing.

slugbuggy, Friday, 29 December 2017 09:23 (three years ago) link

until all the butterflies were gone: a reminiscence on the golden age of mainstream perfumery by some guy who didn't know about anything that existed beyond the suburban mall, available in hardback by houghton mifflin harcourt available twelve years ago.

slugbuggy, Friday, 29 December 2017 09:53 (three years ago) link

today i am wearing:

Atelier Cologne Café Tuberosa

brimstead, Friday, 29 December 2017 15:42 (three years ago) link

i kid but that's way faster than i figured that out - the landscape kinda changes as you move around it but doing so also changes you so there's maybe no privileged pov, only where you are at any point, or something. whatever the point was that seems like a good point to have, at that point.

i appreciate it! i'm lucky to have a super knowledgeable SO to guide me

brimstead, Friday, 29 December 2017 15:43 (three years ago) link

i think what threw me was the sudden shift from ysl to maison martin margiela. in retrospect it's totally reasonable you'd be sampling over a wide range but i was projecting my own process and ended up with the impression that this person just blew through all the merit badges between the two fragrances in record pace, like i assumed i'd have to pass the exam process on dior dune before they'd let me try out tauer l'air du desert marocain, which is totally my own neurosis at play here, like i think if i tried to order the tauer sample i'd just get a curt notice of rejection with a patronizing encouragement to try again at some future point in time, not right away though. .

slugbuggy, Sunday, 31 December 2017 08:17 (three years ago) link

I ended up getting Vi Et Armis by Beaufort - the perfume line, oddly enough, put out by the drummer from The Prodigy. The collection has a strong and somewhat Problematic theme of swashbuckling derring-do in British history, albeit probably somewhat tongue in cheek, so there are lots of references to gunpowder, blood, the sea and the fruits of empire. The one I got has huge amounts of tea and cold smoke. I also picked up a sample of 1805 Tonnerre which has a really aggressive smoke and lime combination and may not be entirely wearable.

I’ve been going through the rest of the range recently.

Most of them reflect different aspects of British marine exploration and their gourmand fragrance, Lignum Vitae, is a perversely literal interpretation of this idea. What would sailors eat? Biscuits and citrus fruits. What does the fragrance smell of? Biscuits and citrus fruits. Whether you really want to walk around all day giving off an air of McVitie's Digestives is down to personal taste but it's cleverly done.

Fathom V is Like an funeral barge slowly sinking into the Thames. On skin it transitions from an extravagant floral to a murky, spicy marine without ever losing (what seems to me a slightly maudlin) lily note. It's artful and beautiful, in a Fallen London kind of way.

1805 Tonnerre smells like local youths have torched your beach hut and, through salty tears, you are trying to clean it up with lime juice and a chamois leather. Uncompromising but very good.

I’ve also tried Gri Gri’s Tara Mantra and Zoologist’s Macaque in the last few days.

Tara Mantra reminds me of an ‘Indian’ / ayurvedic restaurant (run by Hare Krishnas, i think) i went to out of desperation in Tallinn, back when the vegetarian options in the city didn't extend far beyond pizza - a hippyish hit of patchouli and jasmine up front, some spice in the background applied with a light hand and to little discernible effect. The overall experience is extremely close to ELDO's Ensens et Bubblegum, sans the 'ensens', despite sharing few if any of the ingredients. It's pleasant but not very exciting.'s much more green could it be? And the answer is none. Galbanum, apple, cedar and, i think, ylang-ylang combine like a mountain-top forest lit up in neon. It’s possibly too close to an upscale version of Diesel’s £10 drug-store veteran Green to be worth buying but it’s good.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 8 January 2018 22:09 (three years ago) link

Has anyone sampled Eau Duelle by Diptyque? I gave my sister a vanilla/cedarwood scent that Kiehl's briefly made but discontinued, and luckyscent lists it as a fragrance that might be a good fit for someone who liked that one. Considering getting her some as a gift.

mh, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 02:00 (three years ago) link

this thread is beautiful and enticing and

1805 Tonnerre smells like local youths have torched your beach hut and, through salty tears, you are trying to clean it up with lime juice and a chamois leather

made me lol irl

ogmor, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 10:43 (three years ago) link

same <3

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 11:19 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

oh boy just got a bunch of luckyscent samples oh boy

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 16 February 2018 22:45 (three years ago) link

So far:

Maison Francis Kurkdjian Baccarat Rouge 540 EDP. “Oriental Floral.” Pure cotton candy. Goes on like cotton candy, dries down like cotton candy, poor longevity and sillage, like cotton candy. I can’t detect any other notes beyond synthetic sugar. Just candy. Wouldn’t buy for five bucks from the clearance bin at CVS, much less 300 bucks at Saks.

By (k*l*an) Good Girl Gone Bad. “Fruity Floral.” Ripe fruit in an offputting way. Think Bath and Body Works peach/melon shower gel or a peach Snapple, with only the barest sumthin sumthin of interest underneath. A bit of butter reminiscent of the crappy Chardonnay you overdrank at your cousin’s wedding. Poor longevity and sillage, which is good because I don’t care for it. Better than Baccarat Rouge 540, but that’s not saying much. 275 bucks? Oh hell no.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 16 February 2018 22:46 (three years ago) link

anyone rate byredo?
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Congratulations to Maison Naomi Goodsir for having absolutely nailed the stench of death with their Iris Cendre (£125 for 50ml). It's meant to be a rich tobacco / leather reminiscent of Chesterfield sofas in smoking rooms but comes down somewhere between 'wet saddle' and 'mouse carcass discovered behind the fridge'.

Having showered, scrubbed and, damn it, exfoliated my neck i can still smell it 36 hours later and assume that i will have to carry it with me for the rest of my life as a memento mori.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 19 February 2018 09:39 (three years ago) link

byredo frags sounds intriguing but those prices are far beyond my reach

clouds, Monday, 19 February 2018 17:39 (three years ago) link

xp wow that sounds like a powerfully bad smelling fragrance

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 00:44 (three years ago) link

verticals, do you own any byredo and which ones? or are you just asking? pulp and baudelaire seem intersting.

i got philosykos! for birthday presents! i'm all set to be superior to other people not wearing philosykos. it's straight up gangster green, snap a fig twig in half green. fresh! natural as f! with no disrespect to kermit, it IS easy being green! i also picked up ferragamo pour homme from marshalls; it's dry fig leaf and cloves, with attendant fresh fruit and florals. this is some wiseguy shit, real uptown, classes up the joint, maybe a case fell off the back of a truck and you can get it for cheap but you didn't hear it from me, okay? just in case tony asks.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 24 February 2018 07:30 (three years ago) link

i also picked up a 2 oz. bottle of bvlgari man extreme from marshalls for 18 bucks us. i see it everywhere in malls and such so i assume it sells ok but i never see it talked about online so i figure there's no regard. it's astringent cactus juice riding atop a celery-crisp vetiver, with a peppery freesia undercurrent, not really a standard fresh aquatic or whatnot. it's pretty butch, like terre d'hermes. it's not the most of anything but it's different enough from the usual to be exceptional in instances where you'd defer to the usual. like that brady bunch episode where greg asks why he was picked to be the new johnny bravo, and the answer was he firs the suit, this fits the suit.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 24 February 2018 08:33 (three years ago) link

i figure if you get a 4 dollar sample of a 300 dollar thing and and you aren't trying to hear that, that's 296 dollars in your pocket, plus 20 dollars worth of knowledge, so you're up 16 bucks.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 24 February 2018 10:13 (three years ago) link

I hace a bottle of bal d'afrique; my partner has oud immortel. both gifts. I love both. I've smelled most of their range and these are my two favourites.

I love philosykos too. I just wish its fragrance didn't disperse so quickly.

belcalis almanzar (||||||||), Saturday, 24 February 2018 16:11 (three years ago) link

have been wearing guerlain l'instant edp (almost edible patchouli and cacao and anise liqueur) and varvatos dark rebel rider (leather, elemi and incense smoke)

clouds, Sunday, 25 February 2018 04:50 (three years ago) link

I’ve been wearing a bunch of cheap Caron fragrances recently (Yatagan, Le 3eme Homme, Pour Un Homme) and they’re probably a pale imitation of their eighties peak and not particularly long-lasting but all smell very pleasant - classic, simple masculines.

I’m wearing Le Mat by Mendittorosa today and it’s absolutely wonderful - a warm rose with the sweetness of patchouli and spice of immortelle. It’s €250 a bottle though so I may have to make the 10ml sample I have last.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Friday, 2 March 2018 19:04 (three years ago) link

yatagan is brilliant but yeah it is not long-lasting

clouds, Saturday, 3 March 2018 03:25 (three years ago) link

Currently wearing Bat by Zoologist. The whole range is influenced by animals but that is often in a semi-abstract way - Rhinoceros, for example, smells more like bay rum than anything. Bat smells like bat, or rather bat caves. It’s one of the only fragrances in the world to use a recently-discovered chemical compound indistinguishable from petrichor - the smell of bacteria in dry soil breaking down after rain. It’s ‘earthy’ in the most literal sense.

It’s overlaid with decomposing banana, fig and tropical fruit with a hint of musk and leather in the background. I’ve never been anywhere more tropical than the faux-jungle bit of Singapore Zoo but it’s evocative of rainforests and life / death supercharged by warmth, damp and richness.

Opinion is split on whether it’s something you could wear out of the house in good conscience but, applied with a light enough hand, I’d say so.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 11:15 (two years ago) link

is it how you'd imagine batman would smell?

ogmor, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 11:23 (two years ago) link

I want to believe Bruce Wayne will be undone one day by the pervasive dank / rotten fruit aroma that surrounds him when he is out of character, yes.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 11:24 (two years ago) link

I have been wearing my own concoction. I put allspice and clove in a bottle with rubbing alcohol for a week and now I smell like a fresh, cocky sailer!

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 21:36 (two years ago) link

I was just fine with Drakkar Noir, despite its reputation as the scent of latent nazis. When a small bottle of that ran out after 2 years, I went on looking for other inexpensive colognes with few detractors, to expand my range a bit. Wound up with Antonio Puig Quorum Silver (cedar + nutmeg), Perry Ellis M (cinnamon + vanilla), and Mr. Blass (leather + church incense). I use them in moderation (one spray), they're all fine, but I haven't been complemented on them either.

Still much prefer the scent that lingers after sitting downwind of some middling Indonesian aloeswood (oud) incense.

Free Stormy Daniels (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 14:49 (two years ago) link

even the slightest whiff of drakkar noir triggers every bad feeling i have
i congratulate you for moving on

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 14:55 (two years ago) link

From the Fragrantica, ‘people who like Drakkar Noir also like...’ thing, Encre Noir by Lalique is quite good. It’s a dark, inky vetiver.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 15:02 (two years ago) link

drakkar noir smells like bullying, prepubescent shadow mustaches, and awkward boners to me


Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 15:02 (two years ago) link

I've recently rediscovered Cool Water, which has a lot of the same negative eighties connotations, and it's pretty great imo.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 15:18 (two years ago) link

omg cool water is another bad one
add fahrenheit and you will have the unholy trinity of triggering scents

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 15:33 (two years ago) link



Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 15:42 (two years ago) link

I have never consciously smelled fahrenheit (a generational thing, maybe) but it is worryingly similar from the notes listed to a lot of leather scents I like/wear

algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 15:47 (two years ago) link

this is the peril of wearing scents i guess
i smelled most of these in the early 90s fwiw

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 15:50 (two years ago) link

it's also possible my taste just sucks (the big one, generationally, is that I love Poison -- the first fragrance I really, truly loved, as opposed to just found OK -- but realize that anyone alive during the '80s despises it)

algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 16:10 (two years ago) link

i remember when i was wearing chanel #5 in hs and someone complained that i smelled like old people
i was mortified!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 16:11 (two years ago) link

still, smelling like old people >>>>>>>>> smelling like a sexual predator
at least old people are friendly and cool sometimes

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 16:13 (two years ago) link

it's a classic, might not even make me *scrolls up thread to figure out what emotion I associated with it* angry anymore!

mh, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 16:14 (two years ago) link

teens can't tell the difference between "old" and "cultured" anyway

mh, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 16:14 (two years ago) link

also xxp -- I have a luckyscent order coming in and a byredo sample is in it -- it's Bullion, which I kind of suspect is going to be near identical to eau de velours and/or cuir amethyste (which are already pretty similar) and I have a large bottle of the former already, but we'll see

algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 18:38 (two years ago) link

Which of the review sites do you all like best? Luckyscent, fragrantica, basenotes? Like, if you had to choose one, which one?

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 9 March 2018 13:28 (two years ago) link

normally I go by fragrantica -- I only really use luckyscent to buy stuff and basenotes is just there

also I just realized yesterday why I like poison so much despite an entire generation of people hating it, it's the ladytron of perfumes

algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Friday, 9 March 2018 15:53 (two years ago) link

Basenotes probably has the highest percentage of dorks who post about fragrance as though they're on the Steve Hoffman forums but that can be kind of useful sometimes.

Fragrantica wins for me because of the crowd-sourced notes / longevity / sillage voting, though. People ranking which elements predominate (1000 people say iris is prominent, 210 say they can smell tuberose strongly, etc) is much more useful than knowing that the fragrance contains 23 notes, including iris and tuberose - which you could find out from the marketing materials.

Given the tendency to reformulate and water down classic fragrances, it's also great to be able to see what proportion of people felt the scent was weak / middling / strong / huge.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Friday, 9 March 2018 16:03 (two years ago) link

speaking of tuberose, I keep meaning to try Adjatay, given my last analogy I am expecting it to be more like the Client of perfumes

algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Friday, 9 March 2018 16:11 (two years ago) link

Have you tried Fracas? Possibly the Eartha Kitt...

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Friday, 9 March 2018 16:16 (two years ago) link

I haven't -- I'm not a huge fan of just straight-up florals

algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Friday, 9 March 2018 16:20 (two years ago) link

oh man i love fracas
one of my all time favorites

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 9 March 2018 18:47 (two years ago) link

i really want a bottle of arpege

clouds, Saturday, 10 March 2018 01:08 (two years ago) link

going through aforementioned samples; frapin 1270 is a remarkably accurate recreation of the experience of taking a bath in a bulk-food bin, mostly candied pineapples

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 13:50 (two years ago) link

Someone gave me Burberry Brit for a late Christmas present. I hate it. It has a long-lasting fake vanilla note that makes me feel nauseated.

Conic section rebellion 44 (in orbit), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 13:59 (two years ago) link

I still have a a bottle of Burning Leaves and an Earl Grey Lavender water based scent from I Hate Perfume. It's so hard to find scents that aren't cloying or make you want to die if you are trapped with a heavily scented person in a small space.

Yerac, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 14:05 (two years ago) link

I see on this thread that I was wearing Annick Goutal's Petite Cherie 13 years ago. Ha, so weird!

Yerac, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 14:08 (two years ago) link

not to be gross but why is there no deodorant stick for ass cracks?

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 14:14 (two years ago) link

not to be gross but what's stopping you rubbing a deodorant stick into your asscrack?

in conclusion, it is good to peel the sheeps (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 14:19 (two years ago) link

it's legal, dude, go to town on yourself in the comfort of your own home

in conclusion, it is good to peel the sheeps (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 14:20 (two years ago) link

Couldn't you just use a regular one kept especially for that purpose?

Yerac, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 14:20 (two years ago) link

here you go, LG

mh, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 14:36 (two years ago) link

I haven't worn any fragrances in years. I'd love to get back into it at some point, but probably can't justify the expense at the moment.

BUT the other day my wife ordered a scented candle from Amazon. Buying scented candles over the internet can be hit or miss even if you're buying from a reputable place with other scents you know and like, but just randomly shopping candles on Amazon was a particularly, um, adventurous move on her part. I opened it up to take a whiff and I'm almost entirely certain that the scent of this candle is Contradiction for Men by Calvin Klein! It was my first scent, and I wore entirely too much of it for at least a year. I mentioned it to her and she was like "yeah, it's too perfumey..." I almost want to light this candle and a Marlboro Light (quit smoking over a decade ago, but it would have mixed in with whatever I was trying to do at the time) and see if it does any weird sense memory things for me.

I might try to hunt down a sample to confirm that it is indeed Contradiction, but I lived with that scent for a while so I'm pretty sure. My impression from my brief experience with the candle is that it's very overwhelming - like, way too much trying to go on and very sharp. Maybe it wears differently, idk. Probably not.

Anyway, just thought the perfume thread people might get a lol out of this.

how's life, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 14:46 (two years ago) link

entirely, entirely ffs

how's life, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 14:47 (two years ago) link

it's no more off-topic than deodorant for your ass crack

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 15:01 (two years ago) link

lol how's life that's funny

surm, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 15:47 (two years ago) link

where nature sows stink, I shall sow peace.

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 19:09 (two years ago) link

killing time by reading fragrantica reviews of rochas femme, my favorite perfume and the one I'm wearing now actually, and nothing has been more "fucking @ me next time" than this:

"Rochas is the smell that remains of a lovely perfume, once harmonious and joyous when first applied but hours later has been marred by fear laden sweat and soul numbing sadness."

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 16 March 2018 16:39 (two years ago) link

(the rest is some weird... WWII fanfiction...?)

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 16 March 2018 16:40 (two years ago) link

you'd think after 15 years of posting LG would come up with something funny

clouds, Saturday, 17 March 2018 17:54 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I'm going to the Emirates next week. Does anyone have recommendations for Arabian fragrances or Arabian editions of international ones?

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 11:44 (two years ago) link

does "arabian editions of international ones" mean that, f'rinstance, amouage makes a version of bracken man that it exports to europe and the us that differs from what it sells to a local arab customer base or that non-arabian perfume houses like chanel or gaultier alter formulations of things like coco or alien for sale within arab countries? or are you referring to houses like armaf and rasasi, whose offerings often have a specific analogue in popular western releases?

in local news, my brother got versace versus uomo and azarro acteur. i think the uomo is a duff bottle; the citrus top notes have all burnt off, compared to the sample vial i got. i checked the batch code and this specific bottle is from 2010, so degradation is possible. shame, since i really think that transitional period from like 1988 to 1993ish walks the line between old man stuff and trying-too-hard youthful stuff from the eras that preceded and followed it. the sample was so fucking glorious! citrus, and peach! fir, and lavender, and all the other stuff! fresh, yet aromatic! peak versace, fuiud! sadly this particular instance betrays its platonic progenitor, it sinks right into my skin and i can't even smell it up close but then there's a slow release of an herbal, floral, coniferous melange that grudgingly gets released in small doses like a bank robber negotiating hostages for promises of a helicopter and pizzas. i'm still gonna get my own, but i'll have to pay more because the site he got it from is 10 bucks less than the next, but i don't want to risk getting the same wack batch. this would be my favorite designer shit; this is what dylan mckay smelled like, i'm positive. motorcycles and i'm too sad to fuck right now, brenda, i'm off to my family's spot in aruba for a season or whatever.

the acteur is also transitional, i think. there's rose, generic fruit notes, but over an classical azarro base of moss and leather. some ppl in fragrance communities always have to say that a certain rose in this or that cologne is a masculine rose, but i don't care. i don't feel that there's no gender in fragrances because it's all cultural associations; i don't know these people that exist acontextually. my feeling is if there's a discernible rose note, then there's an explicit assumption that there's a performative display of playing the dandy, which is more or less a cis-gendered appropriation of femininity, unless it's not. i think i'm piggy-backing on the struggles of those who lived through history, i don't know the way you feel inside, i don't know how much it hurts your pride, but there's a certain frisson in wearing a rose-based fragrance that geranium or carnation or lavender doesn't provoke, those things are dead butch. but anyway, the point is that love is a stranger in an open car, and i want you, so, it's an obsession, get in the car, it smells like roses.

he also has oscar de la renta pour lui, because basenotes is rife with the powerhouse 80s guys and they think everything from that era is must-have and that's what he reads while i'm all does this translate to someone who's still alive on this planet today. it's like all the classics in one thing. leathery, patchouilly, spicy, oakmossy, florally, all the things. aramis plus givenchy gentleman plus z-14 plus quorum or azarro ph and whatnot. ther's way too much aldehydes, which work really well in things like aramis new west or recent things like my beloved cgd man 2, which is great, but too much makes the millenials go meh, that's old-smelling. dial that shit down a bit, it'd be good to go.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 8 April 2018 08:43 (two years ago) link

he also has givenchy gentleman, the old one, not the new thing that has that mall accord, you know what i mean even if you don't know, and it is too old-smelling. he also has hugo boss no 1, which has that old-timey, bold-timey, patchouli thing going on but tastefully done and with honey and a very masculine rose note and it refrences a real new york gordon gekko type, slicked back hair and pinstripe suit and power tie that just touches the belt but not all the way down the crotch like some assholes i could mention that are also presedint.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 8 April 2018 09:05 (two years ago) link

i bought it ten years ago for sixty thousand dollars. the illusion has become real, and the more real it becomes, the more desperately they want it. i can sell it today for over six hundred. capitalism at its finest. i create nothing; i own. you got that killer instinct. stick around, pal, i still got a lot to teach you. hey buddy, are you with me? i need to know if you're with me. you don't have to live it but damn, it's all there in a bottle. hugo boss no. 1, available at macy's and other fine retailers right near where you live. a thing you know and understand conceptually completely distilled into a tangible consumer product that you can get, you can bend to the thing without becoming the thing, hugo boss no. 1, for the pinstripe in you.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 8 April 2018 09:54 (two years ago) link

for reals tho i was gonna get my own acteur but it's already gone from the discount sites. you can't dither about these things, it was discontinued but then there were some available and then there was none.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 8 April 2018 10:03 (two years ago) link

also! he has aubusson homme, which i looked up, and it's 70% the same notes as drakkar noir, except it doesn't have the same dihydromyrcenol overdose that taints drakkar and cool water. it's very indeterminant; its very much a 90s holdover from the 80s: it's like the inside of a merry-o-round a few years before it went out of business and became a hot topic. every review on frarantica compares this to belanciaga pour homme, but i don't know what that is. i think i remember ppl referring to versace versus uomo as something dylan mckay would wear; this reminds me of david silver for some reason, it's a hypercopt t shirt with acid-ashed jeans, it's the consummate mall-scent if you live in 1992.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 8 April 2018 11:39 (two years ago) link

hypercolor and acid-washed, i mean

slugbuggy, Sunday, 8 April 2018 11:40 (two years ago) link

dang this must be the truth

droit au butt (Euler), Sunday, 8 April 2018 13:41 (two years ago) link

nothing i wpuldn't back down from immediately if challenged, but it's the truth as i see it.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 8 April 2018 14:09 (two years ago) link

I love it, I didn't mean it as a knock

droit au butt (Euler), Sunday, 8 April 2018 15:55 (two years ago) link

belatedly, no problem, good sir or madam, i just mean to reinforce the notion that these drunken fragrance reviews are for entertainment purposes only and do not express the opinions of or any affiliated corporations, which whom cannot be held financially liable for any ruinous or detrimental outcomes resulting from any and all actions pursuant to the allegedly prescribed recommendation of, and subsequent engagement with, including but not restricted to the purchase of, use of, or interaction of any kind including but not limited to the prescribed application of the consumer products aforementionedly indicated.

my brother also now has yatagan. it's kinda too late in the season to be getting this but it's mostly just gonna sit there on the dresser anyway. i'd say this is for lovers of serious stank. it's piney, plus quorum-level dense oakmoss, with the forest-animal-nutsack thing that oscillates between primordial sex pile and put some deodorant on that. i was disappointed when i first got a sample, because i had already smelled quorum, kouros, and ralph lauren polo original green original polo, and this is the confluence of those things, as it always is with everything, you never smell anything really new, but it does smell like a masterpiece of fragrance compositionery. by comparison i was in sephora and smelled the tom ford noir, which is black-tie skank, damn, son, you must have serious bank, and also the john varvatos dark rebel, which is skank-lite for the contemporary man who dares to project that mature vibe, that's what varvatos is, and i'm quoting a youtube reviewer who i believe is scandanavian but has a socal look and accent, varvatos' output def has that "daddy vibe," which, means over-35s can pull this off without coming across as the old guy in the club or under-35s can pull this off without actually smelling old, but still play the sugar-daddy role if that's how you prowl.

i got a small bottle of gucci by gucci i found discounted. it's not great, but i get a decent cypress note off the top and i like cypress. it's a wearable version of better things that aren't as wearable.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 22 April 2018 10:22 (two years ago) link

james franco was the face of the gucci by gucci ad campaign. the best review on fragtantica was that this is an apt metaphor; he's not quite as handsome as he's supposed to be but hey, who the hell are you to turn that down.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 22 April 2018 10:45 (two years ago) link

dark rebel is totally a daddy scent, but too polite to be really skanky. i was hoping for more smokiness from reading the notes -- i get pleasant church incense, resins, car leather and powdery tonka

clouds, Sunday, 22 April 2018 13:58 (two years ago) link

do you mean dark rebel or dark rebel rider? dark rebel has a castoreum note but it's very slight, more of a suggestion than a dominating presence.

slugbuggy, Thursday, 26 April 2018 22:50 (two years ago) link

i got dark rebel rider in the interim between this and my previous post. i didn't mean to, but i had to go out and there was a marshalls and they had a bottle of this and now i have it. it's not in macy's or whatnot anymore so i hadn't smelled it yet and blind bought it.

i agree with both the hoping for more and pleasant remarks -- it could be smokier but that could be a bit too much for the target demographic, not that i think that's a bad thing. per the name it's dark and dangerous, but like, about as dark and dangerous as the cult's electric, which was metal that got played between songs by new order and the sugarcubes, who were probably more so dark and dangerous in a different way. it's tempered-badass, like the bad boy or manic girl you're hoping won't behave according to the attributes that made you attracted to them in the fiest place and this time they don't, which is great, because you can just spray them on and wear them for daily use without worrying if they're not suitable for office use or general social occasions whereas a girlfriend or boyfriend like midnight in paris might get wasted and act out in front of your boss.

slugbuggy, Friday, 27 April 2018 04:14 (two years ago) link

varvatos is generally regarded as having poor longevity and this one seems to be in line with that. the regular dark rebel sample i had seemed to project longer; the rider comes and goes. off the skin i'm now getting the cacao; it's not as deep as the l'instant de guerlain (the ockham's razor of elegance! meaning, any more elegance would be superfluous, which by definition is inelegant!) but it gives the rider a tasteful dry sweetness where normally in a designer there'd be way too much vanilla, i'm sick of too much vanilla.

slugbuggy, Friday, 27 April 2018 04:52 (two years ago) link

actually at this point in the drydown i'm reminded of kokorico, if only for the cacao, patchouli, and cedar. remember when i said kokorico smelled like what people who live inside david lynch movies smell like? that was a great line. where do i go to get my royalty check. this phase of drr is like the normal world version of that, except i can't smell it in the air ambiently, just on skin because apparently varvatos sells mostly to young people who think it's declasse if your scent passes the boundry of liminality and is detetable in the least. boo. boo varvatos. boo john varvatos. boo varvatos. boo.

i sprayed more on. yay varvatos.

nb i'm off tomorrow; it's ok i had a few and did the bourbonated review thing.

slugbuggy, Friday, 27 April 2018 05:11 (two years ago) link

i think my sample of jpg kokorico went off because no mainstream fragrance could be that strange, but then again i don't think so. such a weirdo scent for a mainstream house, which is weird in itself because gaultier as a presence is too weird but his fragrance house is not. i was in a speedway gas station and the burly construction worker in line in front of me getting his morning bitter, flavorless coffee was wearing le male and it reminded me of all the times he got laid in the 90s and i was like, get some, dude, and this is in rust-belt ohio so that's how outre gaultier is. when i look at conceptual art i assume it's a comment on and a reaction against whatever else was going on in the art world just a moment ago that i'm not clued in on, and i get it, that's kokorico, it's a negative presence, it's not for you, it's for the person next to you who gets it, but you want to be them, so it's for you so you can be them, and the same for them, they don't get it either.

slugbuggy, Friday, 27 April 2018 06:27 (two years ago) link

nb the other person in the latter scenario is an artsy thin person looking at the conceptual art piece, not the burly construction worker in line getting coffeein the previous scenatio, although there's no real world reason they couldn't be the same person, except they never are. one is le male and the other is kokorico.

slugbuggy, Friday, 27 April 2018 06:39 (two years ago) link

I’m wearing Aqualis Origin today and it has seen me through some office meetings from hell. Initially seems like a dialled-down, much less opulent and luxurious, take on the same rose / patchouli theme as Le Mat but it has its own charm as the vanilla and jasmine come through. It’s doesn’t have the enveloping, warm-blanket / cashemere sweater effect but it doesn’t cost $300 either.

I have a decant of another Mendittorosa fragrance - Sogno Reale - and it’s a puzzle, flitting between an extremely high-quality amber and a weird rum and iodine/sea salt. It’s intensely relaxing.

I ended up not buying anything in the UAE as the local brands that looked interesting (Hind Al Oud) etc, were fiercely expensive but I’m going to Turkey tomorrow so will keep an eye out for interesting rose fragrances.

Very enthusiastic about this month’s sample set from Bloom as well.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Friday, 27 April 2018 19:40 (two years ago) link

four weeks pass...

those all seem beyond my ken so i can't comment. grossmith seems irretrievably rooted in archaic sensibilities, when i hear the name i think of the old-lady-scruchface from the bbc documentary. some of their offerings are original kfc recipe; some, including golden chypre, from what i read on the internets, are modern creations from a nose who is still alive. did you like it? i need to smell mitsouko because i need to, and gc gets compared to mitsouko extract.

lavs unum, how do you like it?

in downmarket news, i went into a banana repubublic to see if they had any casual linen or linen-blend shirts on sale. they did. i tried their new icon collection of fragrances and they weren't half-bad, which means they were also about half-bad. i got the 78 vintage green. i was going to get a guerlain homme l'eau boisee sample but this has a strong green note that works for me, tea and general green leaf and some bergamot and vetiver. the 06 black platinum has some stinky jasmine and patchouli, and the 17 oud mosaic has good enough funky oud and rose notes. i was surprised they'd let out some stank a bit considering their demographic. the cypress cedar and linen vetiver i thought were ok. the cypress cedar has some orangey, pink peppery top notes, and a vaguely woody base, so for a lot less you could replicate the new dior homme sport, with its blood orange and sandlewood. i mean, i think these are a pastiche of high-end designer or low-end niche, but dior and ysl and chanel are going wide, sauvage edp and y and another allure flanker, br is aiming high, and not getting there, but making gestures in that direction, which is something. i mean, when i'm in macy's and sniffing things all i get is accords, like generally sweet or citrus-fresh or powdery-fresh or powdery-sweet or spicy-sweet or whatnot; the icon series seemed primarily note-based, like i could make a half-decent guess at how the individual notes composed the resultant structure.

the first time i was there getting a shirt the young gentleman in attendance was more than willing to discuss the vaguaries and specifics of perfumery. as per usual i told him everything i had read off the internet and we agreed that br was doing god's work in the world. when i went back to get the 78 vintage green the young lady just coughed a lot when i was spraying test strips and didn't defer to my awesome backstock of knowledge. she asked me for my email and i assured her br still had it since i was getting a half-dozen sales updates a day.

in conclusion and in summary, br's new shit is pretty ok, in that you can skip the mall stuff because this is better, but if you want better, this is still not too bad for the price, unless price isn't an issue, in which case just ignore this because it's a lower-level approximation of what you were getting anyway.

slugbuggy, Friday, 25 May 2018 07:14 (two years ago) link

really, though, the 78 vintage green isn't horrible, i like it about as much or more than the lalique white or diptyque philosykos, and about 80% as much as hermes' un jardin sur la nil which is all-conference honors, or tom ford grey vetiver, which is green af but also kinda straitlaced office-manager starched-shirt kind of thing.

slugbuggy, Friday, 25 May 2018 07:54 (two years ago) link

Grossmith is absolutely old-lady-scrunchface but kind of fits with the Luca Turin quip along the lines of smart guys raid their grandmothers’ fragrances rather than their dad’s. Golden Chypre is good but tbh I find most expensive chypres redundant when I have Mitsouko, Habit Rouge, L’Heure Bleue, etc.

LAVS is nice but not an absolute knockout. I think I prefer Opus 1144, which is a big, gothic amber by the same house.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Friday, 25 May 2018 07:57 (two years ago) link

(small voice) I really want to like mitsouko since it is the kid of thing I would like but it just 100% disappears on me and I don't know if I just keep buying watered-down fakes or bad reformulations or what

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 25 May 2018 14:48 (two years ago) link

(today I'm wearing delrae's bois de paradise which is kind of nice, maybe like something by serge lutens except with fresh rather than strong fruit)

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 25 May 2018 14:51 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

azzaro chrome is the ne plus ultra of normcore scents. i don't know what to do with this information, but i'm assured of its veracity. natural's not in it. dare to be stupid.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 16 June 2018 06:24 (two years ago) link

and by that, i don't mean chrome is the best normal or mainstream scent (fahrenheit!), i mean it best embodies the early-mid teens normcore aesthetic, whatever the hell that was supposed to be. high-waisted jeans, nike golf caps, 90s nautica or hilfiger t-shirts, new balance running shoes, that sort of thing. whenever joey is onscreen during a friends episode, that's chrome. yahoo chat rooms smell like chrome.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 23 June 2018 05:37 (two years ago) link

I realise when you write that I have no idea what normcore 2010 fragrances would smell like.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Saturday, 23 June 2018 05:43 (two years ago) link

got my partner fathom v by beaufort and we both love it -- heavy notes of flower stems, white florals, oceanic salt-laden air and wet earth

clouds, Saturday, 23 June 2018 17:58 (two years ago) link

Excellent. Yes, it’s wonderful.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Saturday, 23 June 2018 17:59 (two years ago) link

Interesting samples this month but probably wasted in 28 degree heat.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:18 (two years ago) link

I realise when you write that I have no idea what normcore 2010 fragrances would smell like.

depends on what you mean by normcore, if you mean normcore mainstream probably like Flowerbomb or something, if you mean mainstream niche probably like molecule 01

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:25 (two years ago) link

All my Christmases have come at once:

The Kindle edition of Luca Turin and Tania Sanchez’ new perfume guide is out. Paperback to follow shortly. 1200 new fragrances from the decade since they wrote the original guide.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Thursday, 28 June 2018 05:32 (two years ago) link

nuclear take

I got a sample of Guerlain's Jicky, the oldest perfume still in production (1889), and every time I raise my wrist to my face a new and even more horrible thing happens.

— Dr Sex Dracula, M.D. (@dubsteppenwolf) July 6, 2018

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 6 July 2018 20:38 (two years ago) link

It had never occurred to me how cats would respond to vintage civet fragrances until reading that thread. I can’t think of many things I’d like to smell of less in hot weather.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Friday, 6 July 2018 20:48 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

i got some things from online because i was bored.

first, aubusson homme. it's a little reminiscent of drakkar noir, but updated for the 90s. if drakkar is too dated for your tastes, try aubusson homme. the old-school guys say it's a good replacement for their beloved, late great balinciaga pour homme, but i don't know what that is. aubusson has a good juniper note and some fir which are things i like; it's half lol-90s i'm wearing and old thing and half i actually dig this.

second, guerlain homme l'eau boisee. guerlain homme l'eau is a flanker of guerlain homme, and guerlain homme l'eau boisee is a flanker of that flanker. the guerlain homme was a bit too boozy with the rum note but this one dials that down and is appreciably woodier/ vetiverier as per the name but the refreshing lime and mint are less pronounced. maybe i'll try layering them together and see if i can achieve a perfect ratio of this to that. anyway, it's a solid fragrance for a mature man of serious intent, who handles his business and brooks no frivolity. not as grassy as promoted, but nothing ever is. i'm on a mission. if i had a time machine i'd forego the killing baby hitler thing and just go back to 1995 and buy a buttload of gap grass.

third, i got carolina herrera chic. i blind bought because on sale and certain reviewers i used to trust who lead me to believe it's one of those hidden gems type of thing. like when you hear a really poppy unknown band and you think in an alternate universe they'd be a huge hit, that's what this was supposed to be. i'm as dumb as they come but i at least expect a fragrance to pass the spray it on and put yer nose to yer wrist test, in which you get decent note separation and it doessn't smell like chernobyl. this is only good if i forget about it and then get ambient whiffs on occasion, in which i can detect the fresh watermelon, contrasted with the spicy cardamom, pepper, and cinnamon, and hints of suede. it's one of those friggin magic-eye things that you used to see at the museum store in the mall that you could never focus in on. a good designer should POP!, not dick around and never achieve like it was tarrence trent d'arby. things that are similar in the fresh spicy mainstream category that get to it are ferragamo puor homme and ken\zo jungle.

also, my brother got samples and they're all ok but the standout is hermes rocabar. this shit is too good to be from a prestige house like hermes. if it were from a populist house like gucci or dolce and gabbana this would be the king of the world. sell your car and use the proceeds top buy all the bottles of this.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 11 August 2018 07:49 (two years ago) link

also the answer to 2010s normcore is dior sauvage.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 11 August 2018 07:49 (two years ago) link

so far this summer have been wearing etat libre d'orange cologne (fresh, bright neroli and jasmine), mitsouko edt and aramis

clouds, Sunday, 12 August 2018 16:08 (two years ago) link

Eau de Cartier is my default in hot, humid weather. Of which we have a lot.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Sunday, 12 August 2018 16:22 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

it's friday night, i'm full of maker's mark, and i've got nothin' new to go on about.

i sprayed on some of my brother's terre d'hermes and it's pretty good, as far as designers go. but hermes isn't a real designer, because i attribute cultural valence as integral to that calculus, and, while i admit we've crossed that rubicon where there is no more such a thing as a monoculture that collectively the sportos, motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, wastoids, dweebies, and dickheads all recognize and draw from, it behooves me to say that all these constituencies necessarily must come together to form a consensus in order to bestow hosannas and laurel wreaths upon deserving corporate offerings. where is the love for hermes? however you look it's clear to see that i love you more than you love me. if hermes loved me as much as i loved hermes, there'd be hermes logo t-shirts rocked by all the aidens and olivias all across the suburbican landscape. there is not that. terre d'hermes should be today's polo green, but that spot goes to dior sauvage, or maybe bleu de chanel, which is ok, but not really. i don't mind terre d'hermes coming here, and wasting all my time, because it's just what i needed, yeah, yeah. i feel like i went through this with rocabar. i don't particularly hate sauvage and invictus or one million, but they're all frosting and no cake. the grabbing hands grab all they can, but there's nothing to grab for. it's a competitive world; everything counts in large amounts. just sayin' tdh is pretty mainstream as far as it smells, but not nearly enough to matter as far as it sells.
i just wish that there was stuff that was both populist and zeitgeisty but also defensible.

fahrenheit! that was some shit. if michael hutchence even glanced sideways at you, it smelled like fahrenheit. terre d'hermes wants to emulate that but its tie is knotted too tight and it can't effect that louche and dissolute air. but it's dependable and will chop firewood for a romantic after-dinner wine-and-conversation moment by the fireplace so that's pretty good.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 22 September 2018 07:52 (two years ago) link

Hermes’ cache come from the perceived exclusivity of its world - from handbags to soft furnishing to horse bridles. It’s only the fragrances that are accessible. People rave about Twilly - which I should probably try again. I have a Russian drugstore dupe of Terre d’Hermes called Koldun, which smells close enough for $8.

I got a bottle of Idole by Lubin a while back. It smells like an upscale bar cocktail based on Kola Kubes. It’s good but fades incredibly fast, though hopefully will come more into its own as the weather gets colder.

I have been wearing Saint Julep by Imaginary Authors, which is a fairly literal sugary mint julep - thin but pleasant.

Io Non Ho Mani Che Mi Accarezzino Il Volto by UNUM has been my favourite new thing to wear, though not to remember how to spell, recently. It has cinnamon, incense and sage and smells like it could be used to cleanse cursed houses of their demons.

Zoologist has a new one out next week by the guy who runs Bogue Profumo, called T-Rex, which the perfume place I go let me try at the start of the month. First impressions were positive. Lots of champaca.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Saturday, 22 September 2018 09:56 (two years ago) link

I will say I have a soft spot for Hermes’ absurd eighties dusty-rose oriental Rouge, which is overpowering in ‘Eau Delicat’ formulation and could probably bring down an elephant at perfume strength. I just dug out an old bottle of Hiris as well, and it’s pretty lovely.

I’ve not been enormously impressed by recent Hermes stuff but the older fragrances, or older formulas, were good.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Saturday, 22 September 2018 10:30 (two years ago) link

I know I only ever appear on this thread to say "Miller Harris" but I treated myself to some of her Vetiver Insolent this week and it's a joy.

My "go to", work day "regime" is Musgo Real Cologne - no. 1 Orange Amber. But with the MH, there's something about how it *feels* expensive and stays for much of the day.

djh, Saturday, 22 September 2018 21:03 (two years ago) link

Despite having failed to buy anything in UAE earlier this year, I’ve started to take an interest in domestic Arabian fragrance houses like Rasasi recently. Outside of the Gulf, they seem to attract a higher than average proportion of the kind of people who do direct-to-camera YouTube reviews shouting about ‘BEAST MODE PROJECTION’ but that shouldn’t put anyone off.

A lot of European / American fragrances seem to have been formulated to smell great on the testing strip but disappear within about half an hour when worn (Imaginary Authors seems particularly bad at this) but perfumes designed for hot weather need to have more longevity, without necessarily being heavy or overpowering.

Rasasi’s La Yuqawam is a very good raspberry-leather with a smoky incense note underneath. It’s apparently suspiciously similar to Tom Ford’s Tuscan Leather. I’m keen to try some of their rose-oud ones as well.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Friday, 28 September 2018 16:14 (two years ago) link

Zoologist has a new one out next week by the guy who runs Bogue Profumo, called T-Rex, which the perfume place I go let me try at the start of the month. First impressions were positive. Lots of champaca.

I got a decant of this and have been wearing it today. It’s quite something. There is a heavy resinous frankincense bolted on to leather, rose, civet, geranium, black pepper, patchouli and that big champaca note. The longer it goes on (and it seemingly goes on forever) the smokier it gets but it never loses that spicy floral element or the slight suggestion of the stable. My favourite incense fragrances, like Zagorsk and Avignon, tend to be a little austere and churchy, Tyrannosaurus Rex is the absolute opposite. Luca Turin wrote that smelling one of Antonio Gardoni’s handful of other fragrances (Maai, I think) is akin to sitting in the front row of the Vienna Philharmonic after months of listening to ringtones and this is no different. It smells like it was designed to cover up the fact that it’s 1930 and your face cream is giving you low-key thallium poisoning. Gardoni is pretty interesting - he is an architect who seems to have started making fragrances as a hobby.

It’s possibly not something I would buy a bottle of, and probably shouldn’t have worn on a plane journey today, but idk, it’s certainly impressive and very enjoyable.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 21:53 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

Anyone tried: Musgo Real Cologne No. 5 Lime Basil?

djh, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 07:23 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Update: it's *okay*. Not as nice as Orange Amber. One to wear for work rather than a special occasion.

djh, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:01 (two years ago) link

a sample of amouage gold for women has shown up in the office lost and found. and while the owner is overwhelmingly likely to be me, I don't remember whether I actually brought it, and I don't want to steal someone's $300 perfume. (especially since I don't even particularly love Gold) this has gone on for like a week.

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 7 December 2018 18:25 (two years ago) link

four weeks pass...

i got hermes rocabar, hermes eau d'orange verte, and varvatos vintage for christmas. the rocabar is probably better for fall rather than winter as it doesn't project enough in the cold, dry air but other than that it's a-ok and pretty damn good. i get the hay/ horse blanket vibe, so bring on the dancing horses, wherever they may roam. it's mostly benzoin and fir, so it's similar to the laura biagiotti roma, but less resionous. the verte, i dunno if that's a greenish orange that's not quite ripe or orange with green herbal notes, but it's jean-claude ellena all the way and wherever his dart lands is where he meant to throw it so i just wait for springtime so i can spray this shit on my carcass and revel in its sublime glory. it's precise and simple. i get orange and basil, with a bit of mint. i would have preferred the concentree version, as it lasts longer than the edc version, but a gift's a gift. the varvatos reminds me of that bit in the joy division movie where whatsisface tells stephen morris to speed it up and slow it down. varvatos goes way old skool and then way modern. varvatos puts some guts into his fragrances then dilutes them homeopathically so no one can smell the guts. you gutless bastard, john varvatos. it's still a pretty good designer fragrance. tobacco and fir, which seals the deal, and rhubarb pie.

i got my brother narciso rodriquez for him and comme des garcons 2 man. if fahrenheit is violet leaf in a kerosene fire then for him is violet leaf in an october rainstorm. yang, meet yin. the 2 man is prolly the apex of extant designer fragrances since gucci decided no one needs modern classics like envy, gucci ph, or rush anymore. so i've heard. i've never smelled those. i'm not angry, cause there's no such thing as original sin, says elvis costello. still, things suck in the designer realm.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 6 January 2019 09:03 (two years ago) link

also! i want to try the musgo real line, especially since my brother likes barbershoppy things, but i have no access. there's no online resource for samples and i'm not in a decent metro area that gives credence to basic human needs.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 6 January 2019 09:24 (two years ago) link

Is it fair to ask where you are?

djh, Sunday, 6 January 2019 19:56 (two years ago) link

Is it fair to ask where you are?

djh, Sunday, 6 January 2019 19:56 (two years ago) link

(Weird, don't know why that happened).

djh, Sunday, 6 January 2019 19:56 (two years ago) link

Anyway. I tend to wear two brands: Musgo Real (I love their Orange Amber but have recently bought Lime Basil) and Miller Harris (Etui Noir, Feuilles de Tabac, Vetiver Insolent).

I kind of think of the former as what I'd wear for work and the latter as more of a treat. The Miller Harris feels more expensive (and lasts longer) though there's a bit of a cross-over in price (Musgo Real can be bizarrely expensive, I only ever buy Miler Harris in the sale).

Barbershoppy is a good description of Musgo Real - you can kind of imagine it being worn by people modelling Portuguese Work Wear.

djh, Sunday, 6 January 2019 20:02 (two years ago) link

my wife and I had to go through contortions to get Antonia's Flowers for my mother in law as it appears to be discontinued and Barney's had one bottle. But that bottle came with a sample of Yin by The Harmonist which my wife loved, and I can stand as well. Surprise it costs $300 a fucking bottle. But I suppose that would last forever.

akm, Sunday, 6 January 2019 20:10 (two years ago) link

I should wear my Roma more.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Sunday, 6 January 2019 22:48 (two years ago) link

i'm in sw ohio. the closest neiman marcus is in detroit and as far as i can tell and they're the only retailer that has it in a physical location, along with bergdorf goodman.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 6 January 2019 23:36 (two years ago) link

They do a box set, if it isn't prohibitively expensive by the time in reaches America?

djh, Monday, 7 January 2019 20:14 (two years ago) link

have been wearing:

azzaro chrome legend (soapy, ambroxan-heavy yet a polite work scent)
cartier declaration (citrus and funky spices initial, transparent newsprint-like vetiver on the drydown)
guerlain l'homme ideal edp (sweet cherry/amaretto and virgin leather) kinda like guerlain's answer to one million

clouds, Friday, 11 January 2019 22:13 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

i got 50 ml bottles of ysl rive gauche pour homme and kenzo tokyo from one of those mall kiosk places. the rive gauche is the discontinued tin can version, not the current la collection glass bottle re-issue, which itself has been re-issued in a new version. i was somewhat afeared of purchasing from one of these establishments because there's always some review when i do a google internet query (search engine, like ask jeeves) that tells me these places sell fakes, but who in their right mind is counterfeiting animale animale or liz claiborne mambo? nobody, that's who, or if the answer is somebody, then a really dumb somebody. the price of each was good. i paid $48 for the tokyo and $58 for the rive gauche in u.s. of american currencies. the rive, i saw the same size for $77 at the least on ebay, so it's a good deal; the tokyo, i could get the 3.4 oz for the same price i paid for the 1.6 oz up until it was recently discontinued and unavailable on discounters, at which point the price for the 1.6 oz went up to as much as $329.99 from one particular dickweed amazon seller, hand to god, and other sellers still want crazy stupid prices. so you can see why i had to get it.

the rive gauche, the convention wisdom is that it smells like shaving cream. it do! it do smell like shaving cream, except it's a cologne, so it's better than if you just spread barbasol all over your neck and went out like that.

the kenzo is a pretty good woody spicy thing. similar to azzaro visit, which i have, except the visit has this dense, oily bergamot thing in the opening which i suspect is used to tamp down on the heavy pepper and incense. the kenzo just shows up all put together so it has that going for it, which is nice. anyway, i got the last one.

i also got some samples from a popular discount website. what about adam, from joop! and encre noire sport from lalique. i got a mini size of the wba, which is from like 1992. i get bitter green tomato leaf and i guess cassia and then there's florals and other stuff but i mostly get green and florals. it really feels like an in-between interzone type of thing the way three strange days or right here right now or groove is in the heart belong to that time period.

encre noire sport is encre noire with grapefruit and lavender. it's more accessible and populist but if you like encre noire but feel you can't really pull it off on a daily basis then this is the answer for that, so why are you upset that it went in that direction? you have so much stuff that is good but difficult, get the thing that is good and uncomplicated, is how i see it.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 17 February 2019 13:53 (two years ago) link

I always get super excited when I see that this thread has new answers, and a slugbuggy post never disappoints. I will now have three strange days in my head for at least three days.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Sunday, 17 February 2019 14:35 (two years ago) link

I just discovered the Ormonde Jayne line, which I think is really outstanding. Fortunately in NYC we have shops like Aedes or Osswald where you can go and sample 100 different chi chi fragrances if you want. Ormonde Jayne is from London, and they have a collection called Four Corners of the Earth inspired by the world travels of their founder, each fragrance specifically inspired by the indigenous flora she's encountered (so says their ad copy). My favorite of the batch is Montabaco, the one inspired by South America, which has some tobacco and leather/suede notes but blended well so you don't immediately peg it as one thing or another. You could imagine this on either an Argentine polo player or a sophisticated lady of means. It's crazy expensive though - $375/100ml! Ormonde Jayne also has a standard men's fragrance that - sorry if I lack the language - is a lovely powdery, slightly spicy, with flinty note blend that I suppose is reminiscent of Rocabar, of ones I'm familiar with. It's $220/100ml or $150/50ml.

One thing I've learned from visiting these fragrance shops is that there are far more scents I don't like than ones I do, even among the expensive ones. Certain notes are automatic turn-offs (like the bubble gum note many fragrances have, not sure what it is technically) and other notes ruin the fragrance if they're slightly too present. And then there's the complication of one's own body chemistry which may not take to a certain scent. That's why I tend to remember the few fragrances that pass all the tests.

Another one I thought I liked enough when trying it out in the store, but after taking home a sample and wearing it decided it was ever-so-slightly too sweet for me, was Amber Room by Thameen. I do appreciate its relative elegance though.

Josefa, Sunday, 17 February 2019 15:36 (two years ago) link

oddam, i wish i could just pop into a boutique and just smell all the things. on the other hand, where i live i can have the same house for 1/3 the price or whatever. life is a game of tradeoffs and percentages.

i ave the rive gauche a full wearing and it's gorgeous, but it still smells like barbasol thet dries down to azzaro ph with the anise and oakmoss and herbalness. it's like if the local diner shut down and in its stead was opened a hipster cusine experience that offered authentic diner fare for ten times the price, which is justified because the omelletes and hash browns are prepareded

slugbuggy, Saturday, 23 February 2019 08:06 (two years ago) link

didn't mean to do that. here be the full post:

goddam, i wish i could just pop into a boutique and just smell all the things. however, housing where i live is cheap so there's that tradeoff.

i gave the rive gauche a full wearing and it's gorgeous, but it still smells like barbasol that dries down to azzaro ph with the anise and oakmoss and herbalness. it's like if the local diner shut down and in its stead was opened a hipster-foodie cuisine experience that offered authentic diner fare for ten times the price, which is justified because the omelettes and hash browns are prepended in authentic diner style, except there's tarragon and because presentation. it's like when paul simon or david byrne do world music or when picasso did his thing with the damoiselles d'avignon. it's problematic, because i'm from the 80's and i'm used to the idea of someone going out and finding something that was always there and re-contextualizing something for me, like were basquiat or especially haring deep-culture aspirants who broke through or emissaries from the liminal boundaries who prospered from their ability to sherpa content from culture to culture? long story short, i had a bottle of pinaud clubman, the aromatic fougere of fougeres, and i never wore it because it was too fougere. the rive gauche is derivative of barbershop, but it's not from a real barbershop. there's still another bottle of rive gbauche at the place i got it and my brother was pondering whether he should get it or just get a bottle of brut because he reads all the old-school powerehouse blogs and imho he should get the fucking bottle of rive gauche.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 23 February 2019 08:58 (two years ago) link

what i could have just said, were it not for all the knob creek, is that the rive gauche feels very fancy for a barbershop fragrance. i felt like it references a different milieu than the one it inhabits. but then again, there are probably very fancy barbershops.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 23 February 2019 21:57 (two years ago) link

Being on a budget, I got a subscription to Scentbird. I think it's a good value, but the selection is patchy. Still I've got enough 15 ml bottles of expensive fragrances that I enjoy. One that sounded promising but which I hated was Black Tulip by Atelier Bloem. It's $195 for a bottle! But I can try it for sixteen bucks a month. Just as well, because it smells like an older woman at church. It's very well composed, just certainly not worth $200. But thanks to Scentbird I have a massive collection of expensive scents. Molinard Figue was my favorite so far. I got Pinrose's Gilded Fox, which had been a favorite, but the caramel wears on me. And Etat Libre d'Orange Tilda Swinton Like This was pretty good.

I'm teaching myself perfuming, though, and am mostly enjoying my own concoctions more. Been doing this for a couple of years and have about a thousand dollars worth of essential oils, attars and aroma chems. But the stuff is coming along nice. Wearing a cherry scent today that also has oud, pink lotus and jasmine.

Twee.TV (I M Losted), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 13:01 (two years ago) link

Where ilm meets ile ...

A Fetching Gentleman in Fragrance Form
Byron on May 10, 2018

Incurable exhumes those remote memories of that young, sophisticated uncle who was a professional illustrator and who smoked an English pipe and owned russet leather armchairs and a collection of antique mechanical coin banks. The one who knew how to properly wear a sport coat and who wielded a generous sense of erudite humor. The one who proved to be the only example of a debonair man to be found in the entire living family tree but who abandoned it once his wife died and he disappeared into someone else’s family never to be heard from again.

Incurable is warm and piquant, dreamy and urbane… like the ghost of someone you wanted to know but never got the chance to.

djh, Wednesday, 6 March 2019 20:47 (one year ago) link

the bubblegum note can be strange -- a scent I like but never wear as often as I should is mirabella by dsh, which is a really-nice plum-oakmoss thing along the lines of femme/mitsouko/things trying to be either of those, but the beginning is straight-up unmistakable bubblicious

theorizing your yells (katherine), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 21:52 (one year ago) link

I've bought some of those indie / alt perfumes, but TBH, the branding on many of them is too precious or humorless goth. I mean, if you want to sell, you should broaden your market. Like I don't identify with the rich uncle at all! And then there are all of the perfumers who use Eurocentric and / or Victorian imagery, as if we all relate to or have those values. It's the same problem that plagues the DIY world in general, with all of its apothecary / homesteading nostalgia. A woman's perfume should respect all women, and sometimes the "mysterious magical witchy woman" crap is just plain sexist.

I am working on a fragrance inspired by Italian women in my family - the smell of the purses, like powdery makeup, rose, tobacco and candy. I didn't think it would work (I had the concept first), but I wear it all of the time, it really smells like my memories!

Twee.TV (I M Losted), Thursday, 7 March 2019 01:03 (one year ago) link

yeah, the branding slightly annoys me, but no more than, like, the porny tom ford/(k*l*an)-type branding does. but, like, deconstructing eden's melisande is a really pretty cinnamon-jasmine-amber thing that I could more or less live in a cloud of, and also is named after a character in a thoroughly embarrassing book series

theorizing your yells (katherine), Thursday, 7 March 2019 20:22 (one year ago) link

damn no idea his stuff was that controversial

theorizing your yells (katherine), Thursday, 7 March 2019 20:23 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

The fragrance I got this month was Caswell-Massey's Centuries Sandalwood. It's kind of a dud. It's unisex, and although it claims to have other ingredients, like cypriol, which I LUV, it just seems to be all overpowering Australian sandalwood, which given its gluey, synthetic aspect, I don't think is real. Or maybe it's a mixture of authentic Australian sandalwood and aromachemical. In any case, it's not very subtle. I'll keep looking for a decent sandalwood scent, but given the unsustainability of the stuff, I'm not hopeful.

I used to buy sandalwood oil in college, when real mysore was more affordable. I guess I have to leave those days behind me, because the Australian variant isn't getting it done.

Oh by the way, I got some amyris, which is supposed to be "west Indian sandalwood" and I like it a lot, although it smells nothing like sandalwood.

Have you tried Night of Olay? (I M Losted), Saturday, 4 May 2019 21:55 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

There seems to be a Miller Harris offer that if you take an empty/full bottle of any Perfume/Cologne to one of their stores, you will get half price on any of their fragrances.

djh, Sunday, 26 May 2019 20:42 (one year ago) link

Oh ... or use the code "RECYCLE" online.

djh, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 18:09 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Hey, I found a new way for people on a budget to get $$$ perfumes for cheap. Some people are buying big bottles of expensive or rare perfumes and bottling them in smaller bottles. I got my own personal holy grail - five ounces of CHANEL NO. 19. It has galbanum, and I usually can't afford it, because you usually have to get it from France and pay a jillion dollars for it because nobody in the US carries it anymore. So it came in the mail today, and it's the REAL DEAL. I got into perfume because I always wanted to make my own version of Chanel no. 19 but I can't get the galbanum now I have my very own to study. So if you're looking for that expensive shit, try Ebay!

Equal Time for Dingelschnitzen (I M Losted), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 02:10 (one year ago) link

I love Chanel No. 19

Dan S, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 02:13 (one year ago) link

more astringent and modern than No. 5, but both are classics

Dan S, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 02:19 (one year ago) link

looking at it in retrospect those really are the two classic Chanel fragrances

Dan S, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 02:27 (one year ago) link

Yeah, it's a classic and a long time ago, it was my signature. I like the slightly masculine or astringent aspect, but it is just so well-done and original. The new formulation is nice, but not as good and the personality isn't as strong. I loved the old one. It was greener and maybe more masculine and assertive. I guess you can get no.19 straight from the Chanel website, but I don't feel like paying $125 the new formula - I don't think it's worth it.

So, this bottle made me want to buy a few vintage bottles of the stuff that are on Ebay, and they're not really expensive, but prohibitive enough on my budget that I'm not sure if I should spring for it. If I had my druthers, I'd have a whole cabinet full of the original stuff. This is why I tried to concoct my own version - which was nice but nothing like the original. I mean, every description of the formula has something different in it. Apparently it has rose and leather in it, whereas I smell greens, vetiver and iris. I just love galbanum, which is a weird thing to put in a "classic" major house fragrance.

I'm just wondering if anyone has sprung for vintage bottles of classic fragrances, and if they hold up well, or if they morph over time. The few vintage bottles I have of stuff are not that great. The bottles I want to buy are from the seventies and the eighties.

And Chanel - as weak as the reformulations are, Chanel is still my go-to as far as designer fragrances. Some of those other fashion houses just produce overrated shit. The Chanels never disappoint, at least, and are worth the money you pay for them.

Equal Time for Dingelschnitzen (I M Losted), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 18:00 (one year ago) link

five months pass...

i got some samples! and then, opinions were had!

miller harris - fleurs de bois. what it says. citrus, florals, but then woods. it's got that miller harris thing going on.

ferrari - noble fig and bright neroli. ferrari is mostly not good except recently they're going for actually good and these aren't bad. the noble fig is mostly orange and fig leaf and assorted whatnot. i have ferragamo pour homme, which is grapefruit and fyg leef, and i forget what spices is supposed to be in there but it has eugenol which is cloves and then at the end there's what youtubist lanier smith describes as italian shoe leather, which is apt as ferragamo is an italian shoe company. that guy's a hoot, he makes himself a cocktail and goes on to relate a totally made up story about his travels and talks about fragrances almost as an afterthought. the bright neroli is a cheap alternative to neroli portofino but i got varvatos artisan pure at marshalls which is an orange blossom thing with citrus but also there's this herbal thing happening that smells like a hay note to me, so hey! don't need the bright neroli which is a cheaper neroli portofino because i have the varvatos which was pretty good for the summer.

got a vintage fahrenheit sample and it's better than the current but not but so much that i'd spring for a vintage bottle.

rochas eau de rochas smells like dior eau sauvage but for cheap.

i got davidoff good life, which is like joop! what about adam but not quite as good, amd escada magnetism, which is saffron and tolu balsalm. i have the versace man, which is saffron and tobacco and what i feel is too much amber, but the tolu in the magnetism has a soft touch to it. the joop! has a discernible tomato leaf note, while the good life has fig leaf, which isn't present as fig leaf as much as a general green note. alexandria fragrances, which is a clone house, has a good life clone but not and adam clone, so i got that. and they have a magnetism called called chic magnet but okay. as far as i can tell the clones ae spot on, as much as can be expected. getting vintage bottles of the originals on ebay and so forth is right out because price.

also at marshalls they had a varvatos signature so i got that. it's got this dates note and some leather or what passes as leather so it's not bad, for a designer. the dates i kind of compare to the dried fruit notes in timbuktu, not that they're on an even plane but the timbuktu is a bit more complicated and the varvatos was there.

slugbuggy, Friday, 29 November 2019 12:08 (one year ago) link

the good life clone is called the best life and i wouldn't go that far but it really has the early 90s interzone thing happening that was in the og davidoff which is what i want: transitional, neither heavy 80s oakmossy old skool but not full-on 90s calone aquatic unbearable lightness of being contrariness. i get sandlewood in the drydown which is always a plus because sandlewood, even if it's the cheap synthetic kind since no more sandlewood. also black currant, which i don't know how that plays nowadays, seems like an old-timey note. there's a good floral accord from the violet and a green accord pulling it in the other direction that's always in play so it has an intestesting tension going on, at least from my perspecyive/ experience level, i don't ask for too much. philosykos is still ahead in the green race but this isn't too far behind.

alexandria also has a givenchy insense clone in which i have an interest, but they also have dumb stuff like an hermes terre d'hermes clone, which, you can still get terre d'hermes for about the same price per ounce.

slugbuggy, Friday, 29 November 2019 12:42 (one year ago) link

the davidoff good life is actually from 1998 while the joop! what about adam is from 1992, so in between there were other fresh and green things like tommy and polo sport (1995 and 1994) that factor into the equation. and then there's gap grass (also 1994), which is green but i think leans floral so that might be closer to the good life than is the what about adam. so i was placing the good life into a 90210 slot in the timeline when it's really dawson's creek.

jo malone does green and that would be a good place to dick around in to find fragrance qua fragrance i actually dig apart from the fragrance as pop culture artifact thing i'm awkwardly bumping around in but also i'm cheap so there's that.

slugbuggy, Sunday, 1 December 2019 09:27 (one year ago) link

sluggbuggy, when you speak of Dior's Eau Sauvage do you mean the EDT or the EDP, and if the latter do you mean in the black box or the white box?

Josefa, Sunday, 8 December 2019 00:31 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

did not see this, sorry. i meant that the edt, imho, is is the one of which the eau de rochas homme points towards. not exactly a copy but i would say ballparkish. the eau sauvage edp is the resinous myrrh one, in the 2011 formulation. i had to look it up, there's a 2017 formulation that has elemi balsam instead, and i think it is the one in the white box. i haven't smelled that one. the 2011 was gaw-juss; i dunno what the newish one is like. from what i can tell, doir pulls that kind of shit, changing good things to where they're not even the same although they carry the same name, lie dior homme sport, which used to be iris and giger and citron but now is blood orange and sanndalwood.

acquisitions/ stuff i got, for crimbus and birfday presents:

a vintage splash bottle of versace versus uomo. either the top notes have burnt off or the sample i got from a sample shop online was not the versace. the sample had strong fruity top notes, i could discern apricot in particular, and the bottle doesn't have that. still, i get fir in spades and the trad lavender and whatnot, so it's all good more or less.

l'instant de guerlain pour homme edp. this is the latest formulation in their standard bottle they put all their oldies in. idk about different formulations, but goddam, i am one elegant mf wearing this.

kenzo jungle homme. it donut have ginger but it smell like ginger. plus sandalwood (which i tend to spell "sandlewood" usually}. i think this is just discontinued, so i got it right on time. typical woody spicy, but that's my jam. there's this thing where you disregard things that are pretty ok, even pretty ok plus, but you overlook because you're looking for that next level shit. i got my brother the alexandria fragrances clone of the iconic gucci envy and although i never smelled the original, the alexandria thing is pretty damn nice, also a ginger and sandalwood thing. the kenzo and gucci are both fromm 1998. i would say the alexandria, and presumably by extension, the gucci, is superior to the kenzo, but the kenzo gives me what i need so i'm happy with that. people want stupid prices for gucci envy on ebay and such and i'm not trying to hear that noise.

lalique encre noire sport. this is the mall version of encre noire. i like it! the grapefruit freshens it up and the lavender smooths it out and makes it more in line with stuff like gucci guilty and whatever you an get from macy's but it's encre noire so it smells good when you smell it. it's what the fragcom (fragrance community, which is a thing online) calls a "dumb reach." it's versatile season-wise and occasion-wise. also, you can get this online discounted to about 25 united states currencies even thought it retails for like hermes prices. if you dig encre noire but find it too fancy, this works for everyday.

l'eau bleue d'issey pour homme. i can't wait for spring, so i can rock this. it's weird; there's cypress and juniper berries and so much rosemary, which to me has a straight up funk to it. these are all stank notes to the contemporary snoot. it reminded me somewhat of paco rabanne pour homme and also joop! jump, which are both lousy with rosemary, but the comparison is only just so. before i knew what the notes were, i smelled this at the mall kiosk that has all the non-standard stuff in it, it's where i got the og ysl rive gauche and kenzo tokyo for their original retail prices even though they both go for way too much on ebay now. anyway, i thought it smelled of lichens or moss, not the soapy way oakmoss smells in perfumery but reminiscent of green moss you'd peel off a rotted tree trunk while doing hiking outdoorsey stuff and feeling all dark and woodsmany and full of nature and state-parkmanshipfullness. you know, when somebody passes you on the trail and they're like "how's it goin'" and you're like "straight up dank like a gangsta named hank" and you mean it. i think knowing what the notes are dispels this perception somewhat, in that i think of rosemary and musty coniferous shit qua rosemary and musty coniferous shit when i smell my wrist instead of when i bite into a york peppermint patty i get the sensation of trekking through virgin forest after a rain type of thing. anyway, for a mainstream designer it's a bit weird and not at all related to the og issey miyake yuzo citrus thing.

alexandria fragrances hysteria. a givenchy insense clone. the og insense is considered, by some youtube reviewers, a lost classic. i admit, i bit ecause of the rare thing categorization. this is my mission of burma, the thing i missed first time around but want to like now, because taste. straight up retconning my cv. this has all the florals, but it's butch because it has a fir backbone. also, insense is from 1993, which is in my intezone sweet spot, like versace versus uomo and laura biagiotti roma uomo and egoiste! (slams shutters!). of the florals i get mostly lily-of-the-valley, and also the aldehydes and fir. i expect this to bloom once the weather becomes more humid and warmer. spring and summer things tend to lie flat in cold and dry conditions so i can't really say tho it'e good now so whoa whoa whoa whoa, whoa whoa whoa, things can only get better, howard jones.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 15 February 2020 09:33 (one year ago) link

also i got myself aqua fahrenheit. for summer. 4.2 ounce bottle, so i'm all set. not mind-blowing, but i actually really kinda like it so i think i'll wear it.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 15 February 2020 10:25 (one year ago) link

Do you have a Guerlain counter where you shop and if so have you tried the top shelf things they have (at Saks they're pulled out of a drawer) like Chamade or the two versions of Arsène Lupin?

Btw you're right about the reformulated Eau Sauvage edp, it comes in a white box, but curiously I see the 2011 formulation in the black box more often in stores.

Josefa, Saturday, 15 February 2020 15:58 (one year ago) link

i love l'instant edp. never gets compliments but gets some interesting reactions, such as one lady telling me I smelled like someone she knew decades ago.

clouds, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 17:56 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

mostly i get guerlain online because i live nowhere good. there's a saks within driving distance but i haven't been yet so i don't know what they have. so far i only know the standard guerlain stuff: vetiver, habit rouge, heritage and modern things like l'instant and homme.

slugbuggy, Thursday, 5 March 2020 12:41 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

Miller Harris are presenting an online discussion about some of their fragrances - they're flagging them in advance so you can order samples of the fragrances that are being talked about (3 for a tenner, I think). It's one of those things that I ought to do because I don't really have the language to talk about fragrance in a meaningful way but aren't likely to remember to do.

djh, Saturday, 28 March 2020 15:20 (eleven months ago) link

two months pass...

I want to make a poll out of this incredible and exhaustive set of perfume reviews.

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 4 June 2020 19:37 (nine months ago) link

two weeks pass...

been wearing habit rouge and guerlain homme l'eau boisee a lot lately

clouds, Monday, 22 June 2020 02:38 (eight months ago) link

guerlain's mitsouko is still the perfume of all time I think

Dan S, Monday, 22 June 2020 02:43 (eight months ago) link

it is intense and nostalgic, with peach and mostly now forbidden oak moss

Dan S, Monday, 22 June 2020 02:53 (eight months ago) link

i have the edt -- my bottle's almost empty, need to get the edp

clouds, Monday, 22 June 2020 03:24 (eight months ago) link

I think vintage Mitsouko EdP is worth seeking out

Dan S, Monday, 22 June 2020 04:25 (eight months ago) link

Vintage Coco is the same way. I like it again but only the old formula.

felicity, Monday, 22 June 2020 06:08 (eight months ago) link

Recently scored some vintage Rive Gauche (in the blue atomizer) and really love it, it's transporting

Josefa, Monday, 22 June 2020 14:22 (eight months ago) link

for a while I had told people that if you can't track down vintage mitsouko then hiram green's shangri-la is a good substitute, but it's been discontinued

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Monday, 22 June 2020 15:06 (eight months ago) link

two weeks pass...

have been exploring the Oriza L. Legrand scents:

Vétiver Royal Bourbon is almost too much, very sweet and heavy

Chypre-Mousse is like the bottom of a pile of damp leaves. from what I’ve read it is very much loved. it is intriguing

Relique d’Amour is a dank crypt with lilys laid on top, very extreme. I hated it so much at first, it seemed really harsh, but it has grown on me

Reve d’Ossian is a bone dry incense scent, my favorite of all

Dan S, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 03:42 (seven months ago) link

chypre mousse is one of the weirdest things i've ever worn -- can't say i really liked it but i'd try it again

clouds, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:49 (seven months ago) link

weirdly desperate for perfume these days - like, i crave SCENT as a response to pandemic bullshit. but then the frustration of being unable to go into a shop and sniff vials, not without feeling unsafe. so: ordering various decants in the mail! and trying to appreciate the scents i can find in this sunscorched summer hellscape.

sean gramophone, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 19:04 (seven months ago) link

I bought Clinique aromatics, will report back.

scampos mentis (gyac), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 19:35 (seven months ago) link

one month passes...

i'm fulla maker's mark; let's go.

i bought my brother dior homme cologne for birthday. it's one of those things you wouldn't get because it's way common and easily available but i'm a slave to love and it's actually lovely. one day it'll be gone and then you'll all be all like "that were pretty good" so i got it now. they say it's like a lemon ice and i think in this case i'll go with what they say. the sun: beautiful. the moon: beautiful. dior homme cologne: beautiful.

i also got myself cartier roadster sport. it's got the usual indistinct citrus upfront and the herbalness: rosemary, sage, and some patchouli. when i smelled it i thought it had rosemary and when i looked up the notes it did! i give myself points when i do that and in my head i hear the sound of mario getting a coin. it smell like spearmint but it ain't got no mint. i got both of these at the mall kiosk that sell perfume. the regular mall department store don't got no cartier and the didn't even have the dior. eff them because i really wanted to give retail my money because the economy. anyway, the roadster sport is a really good designer green thing. it' glossy and smooth in a designery way but there's a touch of old school. the only problem is performance. the doir also sucks, performance wise, which is why i also gifted my brother with the cartier. two badly performing fragrances equal one decent performing thing.

re: guerlain homme l'eau boisee. i like the regular homme because it got some barbershop to it i think because the booze note actually imparts an aftershavey alcoholness (like maybe jade east or whatnot?) to it but the boisee is way better. for a green thing it performs really well. people on thee internet say it's got a celery salt note to it and i don't disagree. it feels green and the vetiver feels salted. i have the og version with the clear cap before the current reformulation in the trad bottle guerlain puts everything old in so i don't know if there's a difference.

i also have been wearing the varvatos artisan pure a lot. it smells like a neroli frag but there's no orange blossom or anything like that in there, according to fragrantica. basenotes says it's got orange flower and coffee tree flower so i'll go with that. whatever, it smell soapy to me plus it's herbal as it wanna be. i said before it smell of hay; i stand by my declaration.

also, diptyque philosykos, banana republic vintage green 78,and lilique white. this s*** is republic, r-e-p-u-b-l-i-c, i told the salesguy at br that this could be a cousin to hermes jardin sur la nil and was a step above the usual eros stuff you find in sephora and he said he wears eros and i said i didn't mean anything by that; i'm not smart enough to be a genuine frag snob. but it's true. girl you know it's true, ooh, ooh ooh, i love vintage green. it's just a simple tea fragrance with some mango (hence the hermes comparison) but for a cheap chain store offering it's spectacular. i think they discontinued it.

the lalique is mostly an oily pettigrain with maybe too much laundy-muskiness and the pencil shavings note which is the cedar and pepper but that will do, pig. of all the quotidian clean and fresh summer options this is perhaps the most of the most? i dunno, i dig it in a reliable quality thing kind of way.

also. i'm wearing my brother's lapidus homme sport. i had a sample of diptyque eau de sens and this is pretty much the same thing for cheap. this is a for real orange blossom scent, but the dish soap aspect of orange blossom is way tolerable. if you love orange blossom but hate orange blossom, get this. it's a white floral citrus aquatic, mainstream niche. i don't really like it but i'm way into it.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 29 August 2020 08:06 (six months ago) link

bbr vintage green sounds real nice

i splurged a bit and got ysl la nuit de l'homme edp - comes on like a pastry sweet shop but fades into a nice floral heart. i've probably gotten more comments on this frag than any.

have aromatics elixir and lalique encre noire sport coming in the mail soon

orson around (clouds), Saturday, 29 August 2020 14:00 (six months ago) link

la nuit de l'homme is a great one, I concur

My star fragrance of the summer is Roma by Laura Biagiotti. It's sort of a spiced citrus creamsicle that seems to come alive and evolve interestingly in hot weather. What led me to this was I scored a bottle of vintage Minotaure by Paloma Picasso which is lovely and unusual and as it turns out often likened to Roma. To me the two only have a distant relation, and in a way the Roma is more versatile since it's less zingy and more subtle/soft.

Josefa, Friday, 4 September 2020 14:59 (six months ago) link

two weeks pass...

roma uomo cedro has been one my favorites this summer, and the original is still so addictive

orson around (clouds), Thursday, 24 September 2020 03:59 (five months ago) link

head over heels for Mona di Orio's cuir

sean gramophone, Friday, 25 September 2020 14:30 (five months ago) link

i haven't worn cologne for years but tempted to get a bottle of Gorse by Laboratory Perfumes

ergonomic cher (P. Flick), Friday, 25 September 2020 14:59 (five months ago) link

three weeks pass...

i have minotaure, but it's a recent formulation. i like it but i don't get a contrast between the vanilla and tonka bean sweetness and the citrus and green notes as much as i'd like. maybe too well blended. contrast is key. the future will quote me on this. i know for real and true that sometimes modern versions of antique things lose life force in present day existenialities, they are at best sidelong glances at the beauty they once were, polaroids found in a shoebox in the attic of your danceteria days when you were the sex. other times the difference is negligible, so who knows. as the sparks song goes, i wish i looked a little better. i wish this smelled a little bit better. it's nice though, i'd still like to compare what i got to a vintage. anyway, david bowie liked it so i try to see it through his eyes.

i had a sample of roma, but i forget if the galbanum and tarragon and whatnot stand out against the benzoin and orange. i hope so. i already have hermes rocabar, which is benzoin and fir and citruseses. i lurve me some benzoin, and fir is favorite. clouds i think you said upthread roma is musty like someone else's house. that's straight poetry. if so i might get it just to wear your words.

also, clouds, clouds, clouds. do you like the encre noire sport? i ask because i really like encre noire, but am not always satorially aligned with its patrician formalism or whatever i'm trying to say. the sport can go anywhere. oh shit, my streaming radio is playing just like heaven. wait right here until i come back.

ok. sorry for the delay. anyway, i still get the inky thing that is integral to the encre noire vibe but the sport is so fresh and smooth. the last ten years of mainstream perfumery can go to hell in a knockoff gucci handbag. my take, and this is my take, so grain of salt, which when you think of it is really a weird expression because when you think of it, a lone grain of salt would be virtually imperceptible, but encre noire is high-end designer, encre noire a l'extreme is some niche shit, and sport is straight up the mainstream designer wazoo. it pops so hard. it aims to please, if you please. it's populism predicted on the illusion that the populace has decent taste. in summary and in conclusion, i give it a grade of b+ or so.

my brother got kiehl's original musk and it's innerstin. dunno where or how or when as far as donning it as a real thing but it's of the ages so i plan to go back to it. there's sweetness to it and not too animalic as i'd thought.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 17 October 2020 08:24 (four months ago) link

predicated, not predicted, dammit. almost had an undrunkable good post.

i'm wearing my brother's joop! jump. so weird. grapefruit and rosemary and heliotrope, things which should not exist in conjunction with each other. fresh grapefruit, stank rosemary, and powdery heliotrope. tres' synthetique, to boot. i think gaultier's kokorico also smells weird, maybe i'm weird but this smells weird. sometimes you smell things other people don't. bvlgari aqua marine is also weird to me; the seaweed note is so pronounced i can't see it being popular. you wade into the ocean because you spent all that money to go to florida and you're not having fun but you have your partner or family to consider and you trundle back up to your beach blanket and you've got seaweed clinging to your left calf and you pull it off in strands and toss it hither and yon and that's bvlgari aqua marine. i like it but who else would like something like that?

slugbuggy, Saturday, 17 October 2020 09:04 (four months ago) link

At one time I had bottles of both the older Minotaure and the newer one and I compared them. They're identical on initial spray but within minutes they go two separate ways, with the newer one starting a quick fade to nothingness while the older one starts to evolve, becoming less brash and dandified and more dark and ambiguous, perhaps even "older" - in Bowie terms it's like going from Ziggy Stardust to Low.

Have we talked about Rocabar before? I really like it, the way it starts sort of flinty and when that note fades a more sensual balanced accord blossoms and lingers.

I bought some Xeryus Rouge by Givenchy blind because it's supposedly located in a zone of the fragrance chart where other things I like come from. But nah, this isn't for me. Reviews talk about a hot pepper/pimiento character but all I get is a strident rose with a light suggestion of spice in the background.

Went to Sephora and sampled some Jo Malone products. One of them smells just like the beach - too much so for my taste - like dried out suntan lotion and sea grape and candy. There's one with oud in the name that's OK but I've learned that oud has a more outdoorsy nuance than what I'm comfortable with.

Josefa, Saturday, 17 October 2020 15:12 (four months ago) link

Scentbird has a series now called "Scents of Wood" that I'm trying, and the Sandalwood in Oak is great - a pleasant surprise. Very unisex, and it just smells like a fresh oak with sage - which is weird for a fragrance, but lately I'm into things that smell like raw nature. Only the slightest synthetic aspect to it. Truly smells like a log cabin.

I am done with Sephora - have a habit of falling in love with something, only to have it become total dud after I've brought home a bottle. Sticking to my subscription service for now.

Alpha 666, The Number of the Beast (I M Losted), Saturday, 17 October 2020 23:53 (four months ago) link

Anyone familiar with the Confessions of a Rebel brand? I have Get a Room coming up in my queue. Sounds great, like that means anything, but reviews are good.

Alpha 666, The Number of the Beast (I M Losted), Sunday, 18 October 2020 00:17 (four months ago) link

yeah EN sport is very wearable in most situations and a great work scent with sensible sillage/projection

orson around (clouds), Monday, 19 October 2020 12:06 (four months ago) link

try caron's yuzu man too slugbuggy

orson around (clouds), Monday, 19 October 2020 12:09 (four months ago) link

Got Miller Harris’s Tender a couple of weeks back and really like it, but it doesn’t last long enough!

I think I like Aromatics now that the weather is cooler.

scampus milne (gyac), Monday, 19 October 2020 12:12 (four months ago) link

i love aromatics, especially after the drydown and you just get whiffs of lemon verbena throughout the day. so comforting.

orson around (clouds), Monday, 19 October 2020 12:18 (four months ago) link

feel the Sephora regret... I got a bottle of terre hermes at Sephora a couple of years ago based on a sample I got with some other stuff but now I’m like “why did I buy this”

been alternating between Tom ford’s noir de noir + atelier’s cafe tuberose + maison margiela whispers in the library.. the first two are very similar but the TF is more deep dark intoxicating dreaminess whereas the atelier has more of a bright almost champagne thing going on. I don’t really know how to describe whispers.

maison margiela’s soul of the forest was my mainstay for a long time but after all the crazy wildfires near me this season it feels weird to put something on that smells kinda like burning wood.

brimstead, Monday, 19 October 2020 19:26 (four months ago) link

I don't get Terre d'Hermès, it smells so thin and weedy to me yet it's the one they seem to promote the hardest. Saks just sent me some Hermès samples which included that. Rocabar and Bel Ami are much more interesting imo.

Josefa, Monday, 19 October 2020 19:52 (four months ago) link

x-posts - yeah, the recent Miller Harris scents don't seem to hang around like their "classics" do.

djh, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 07:43 (four months ago) link

I'm currently wearing Squid by Zoologist which is, as you might expect, an inky marine. It's a lot softer than many of their other fragrances and very pleasant but not one of my absolute favourites from them.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 08:12 (four months ago) link

A new haul of decants today and i'm wearing Zoologist's Bee, which is lovely. It reminds me of the Russian and Ukrainian churches that make beeswax candles and sell honey - a warm, resinous, floral fug.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 13:28 (four months ago) link

fyi "Smell Ya Later" hosted by Tynan Sinks & Sable Yong is a good new podcast about fragrances

Josefa, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 14:35 (four months ago) link

i looked up confessions of a rebel and it's the scentbird house brand. hadn't heard of it before but i'm comparatively unacquainted with nichey things but also there isn't anything on fragrantica about them so i think that because they're exclusive to scentbird it means they're not widely discussed and not a thing on youtube and blogs and whatnot. it looks like they're going for a niche thing; if so, their price point seems reasonable. they have two main brand mission statement thingies, one being their fragrances are created from thouzillions of data points presumably culled from subscriber preferences and also that their scents are gender-fluid as opposed to being merely unisex. unisex i get, because culture says blue and pink when , but gender-fluid is a tall order; it means this thing has the potential to shift along the spectrum.

also the data driven thing: this is also an intersting notion but imo it's better to make something that's one in ten people's favorite than everybody's third favorite by averaging things out. otoh, this is a step towards my dream of achieving fragrances created by robots, for robots, so i dunno.

in summary and in conclusion, i hope these smell good, in which case, well done.

scents of wood get their scents of wood by being aged in wood caskets, like wine! i also hope this is a real thing and not just a selling point that most people can't tell the difference from anyway.

edit: the banana republic vintage 78 has a fig note, not mango. mea culpa. i don't know if it's all that in itself but i was kinda stoked that a mall outlet like br was making a stab at naturalism with its icon line, compared to their previous offerings. the vintage is a pretty good tea frag, i think, and for the price, what, who are you to complain? the only other mainstream tea things i know are the bvlgari thing by jean-claude ellena, the eau verte maybe, which is pricey, and bvlgari homme, which is just ok. i just wanted a decent tea thing for not so many denarii and this fits the bill.

i know caron mostly for their old things like 3rd man and yatagan and not so much of anything relatively recent. yuzu man sounds pretty ok and full of potential; i like petitgrain and/ or lemon leaf and/ or lemon verbena (lalique white, creed irish green tweedy thing, or at least the cheap armaf clone i have) and there's some green contrast with the basil and from what the internet says the yuzu is fuller and richer than that of the issey miyake which i think is fine so that seems like an entry in the plus column. like, if you were setting me up on a blind date and all you told me was petite, redhead with frackles, and vast pop-cultural knowledge i'd be, historically i like those attributes, but at the same time i don't want to contribute to a culture of generalization and objectification and fetishism, so i'll just say i'm looking forward to having a nice date.

also, i saw a review of geoffrey beene bowling green in which the opinion was proffered that it was a lemon verbena bomb. it's way cheap on the internets, and a classic old school scent although not really lauded, so it might be up someone's alley, if it works out that way.

i have terre d'hermes gifted because it seemed the thing to have, i assume. the initial blast is all "omg this is such a modern classic that any man should have as an integral part of his collection" but i am also ambivalent in that i don't love wearing it but it's jean-claude ellena's most popular thing and so representative of its era like grey flannel once was but god that's way too much vetiver tom for grey vetiver is way smoother, such a competent office manager scent, crisp and starched-shirt and forthright. too much goddam vetiver, to my nose, is terre.

what else? my brother has a recent formulation of paco rabanne pour homme. someone on the internets said something about the honey note it has because someone else alluded to a certain sweetness they detected in paco pabanne pour homme about which they couldn't be more specific and so the source of the sweetness was identified by the responding party. before this, i never noticed a honey note. so last time i was over at his place i sprayed it on my wrist and scanned the aforementioned wrist to try to discern the honey note. now, i can't not notice a honey note. i'm not going to need therapy but this really brings up issues of perception vs reality, and the construction thereof. they sat knowledge is power, but according to the law of conservation of energy, me gaining power means i sap that power from another source. in the 80s, i used to wear polo green. didn't love it (luv u armani pour homme, my boo, and grey flannel, you sexy bitch) but i respected that shit. it was FUCKING POLO. i saw a video of steve martin, who majored in philosophy in lol college, who said he didn't remember anything specific about philosophy later on but in general he remembered general concepts, and generally speaking he knew in his core that as a comedian, attempting to deconstruct comedy only resulted in killing the thing he loved. he were adverse to the notion. i hope i didn't kill paco rabanne over honey.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 31 October 2020 09:54 (four months ago) link

modern polo is lesser bobka because of ifra restrictions on oakmoss; a lot of classics also suck because of that, and also because of cheaper substitutes of aroma chemicals and so forth as certain fragrances become heritage and not big-time enough to warrant full monetary attention, i get that, whatever. it isn't even about polo, specifically. there was a gestalt, branding meant something. if i can pick a thing apart to its components then i lose that somehow. i had a red polo jacket that i wore with the collar turned up. a casual acquaintance really wanted to borrow it to wear out on the town. i declined; i feared the common circumstance of not getting it back ever. i hated to be a dick but it was the right thing to do. sorry, todd, you were a cool guy and i wished polo jacket upon you but not at my expense. that red polo jacket had valence; it was woven out of the same fabric as cameo's she strange and level 42's something about you. if i let it go it'd never come back. polo is dead because i now am aware of the colonialist aspect to the marketing appeal but those were the days. i remember thinking lacoste was the shit and then seeing the lo-life contingent sporting all these new combinations of striped polo shits i knew a new era had dawned and i was behind the times. so, polo. i forget my point but the scent smelled the way the clothes looked. now, i can only see pine needles, oakmoss or the lack thereof, and tobacco when i smell it.

life ain't really funky, unless it's got that pop, says prince, and i think i'm msissing the pop for the trees.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 31 October 2020 11:18 (four months ago) link

polo green is so i wonder if i take you home by lisa lisa and full force with cult jam in the proustian sense. not even my favorite but nothing else gets there so specifically, it can't be anything else. they say the universal is specific, but i'd like to submit, the specific is also pretty specific. lately, you've expressing to me, how much you've like to to make love. that's pretty damn specific. fuck timeless. and you know and i know if we get together emotions will get to work. polo green is right THERE, for me, if only in my memory.when i smell the current version i only get memories of memories.

conversely, you might have none of these associations.


slugbuggy, Saturday, 31 October 2020 12:33 (four months ago) link


some of the best writing on the internet in this thread.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 31 October 2020 12:38 (four months ago) link

^^ seconded.

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 31 October 2020 12:40 (four months ago) link

Love this thread

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Saturday, 31 October 2020 17:24 (four months ago) link

I've ordered a sample of a fragrance inspired by Ilya Khrzhanovsky's magnificent 2004 film Chetyre (4) because, mystifyingly, it exists and i must know what it smells like.

I'm wearing Ormonde Jayne's Ormonde Man today, which has a fancy list of ingredients, like black hemlock and agarwood, but really just smells like a fairly generic cologne - albeit the kind of subtle, reassuringly expensive cologne they mist into the executive lounges of upmarket Abu Dhabi hotels to gently mask the smell of the buffet cheese counter.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 17:27 (four months ago) link

l'air du desert marocain today - taking deep breaths of the coriander seed and trying to waft the spicier incense notes southward, like a spell

sean gramophone, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 17:56 (four months ago) link

I like Ormonde Man but it is slightly mystifying why it's 2x as expensive as comparable products. But fwiw I once went to Aedes in Manhattan (a shop dedicated to boutique fragrances) and sampled about 50 different things before deciding that Ormonde Man and Ormonde Montabaco were about the most pleasing of the batch. It's probably not a great idea to sample that many at a time, I now realize.

Josefa, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 18:20 (four months ago) link

I've ordered a sample of a fragrance inspired by Ilya Khrzhanovsky's magnificent 2004 film Chetyre (4) because, mystifyingly, it exists and i must know what it smells like.

The short answer is 'Chanel - Cuir de Russie' - leather, birch, clary sage and all. It's good but not likely to shift ELdO's Rien as my smoky leather of choice. It's one of three samples composed by Prin Lomros i got. Kira Kira is pleasant but suffers from the same problem as every other green apple scent i've tried - being practically indistinguishable from the Body Shop's stalwart £6 Apple Blossom spray.

The most interesting was Zoologist's Sloth, which has an echo of Bat in the over-ripe jungle fruit base but layers a bunch of herbal notes on top. As a representation of a chill little dude covered in weird green muck, it seems spot-on.

Zoologist's Koala was composed by Spyros Drosopoulos of Baruti and has his hallmark photo-realism in the eucalyptus and pine but not a lot other than that going on.

Beaufort’s Terror and Magnificence starts like a softer, more complex take on Miller Harris’ classic Feuilles de Tabac but, within half an hour, morphs into the kind of inexpensive oud you can find in Arabian drugstores, which is fine but you might as well go for something by Al Rasasi that costs a fraction of the price and will probably clear your sinuses as well.

Their Rake and Ruin is a more polite take on the theme of 1805 Tonnerre – a Historical Reenactment Society version of Austerlitz with cap guns standing in for fire-breathing muskets.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 15:28 (three months ago) link

two weeks pass...

I am going through my pile of 10 ml perfume samples, and lately have taken to Salvatore Ferragamo pour Femme. This one is really brashly feminine and all disco/Italian, with roses and carnations and spices and woods & a bit of basically it smells like my mom in the late 70's after she had her bath and put on her fur and went out for the night. It's really comforting now that I can't see my family or go anywhere.

Totally Insane Police State, 90210 (I M Losted), Monday, 7 December 2020 18:42 (two months ago) link

my next purchase will be tom ford’s oud wood, i think.

brimstead, Monday, 7 December 2020 22:38 (two months ago) link

My 10 ml of Confessions of a Rebel's Get a Room arrived, and it is surprisingly good, given my suspicion of trendy niche brands with silly names. It is an excellent composition - green apple, clary sage, vanilla, praline, mandarin and woods. In spite of the vanilla and praline - it is not too sweet, and the effect is creamy, not gourmand. Mainly smells like a creamy apple with citrus. Don't think it's particularly sexy, though. More a warm, comforting scent for day or night.

Totally Insane Police State, 90210 (I M Losted), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 13:58 (two months ago) link

I’ve been testing out a le labo sampler for the last year and the only one I truly love is ambrette. I don’t get the hype around santal 33 - I smells nice if I press my nose right up against my skin but in the air it smells really sickly to me. I like bergamot, jasmine and another13 just fine but not enough to spend money on.

I just received a bunch of samples from scent split that I’m excited to test - mostly byredo and Comme des Garçons.

just1n3, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 03:17 (two months ago) link

i'm always a bit unsure of L'Air du désert marocain on first application, but god the drydown is just divine.

sean gramophone, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 03:18 (two months ago) link

My favorite perfume for the last couple years has been Eric Buterbaugh’s lily of the valley oud

just1n3, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 03:22 (two months ago) link

I was rereading the intro to Perfumes the Guide and can’t stop thinking about this:

The fact is that this stuff is worth loving. As with the tawdriest pop melody, there is a base pleasure in perfume, in just about any perfume, even the cheapest and the most starved of ideas, that is better than no perfume at all. It decorates the day. It makes you feel as if the colors of the air have changed. It’s a substitute for having an orchestra follow you about playing the theme song of your choice. Think of what the functional fragrance industry calls the magic moment, when the smell of fabric softener billows out of your dryer and you can’t help but feel great. Perfume is wonderful. And it’s simply not true, as some people believe, that thinking about our pleasures ruins them. For example, few things are as wonderful as having a great meal and talking about it afterward, and remembering other great meals, and planning the next one. We have found, in writing this book, that the same holds for perfume. All pleasure is connected, and the endless ride we take between disappointment and satisfaction and back again is largely what keeps us interested in life. What more is there to talk about?

What indeed. I found myself rereading their Angel review and finding an almost untouched bottle (nb I have gone through numerous bottles of this since my first one in my teens, I was just out of the habit of wearing it), putting it on and immediately experiencing a surge of such joy and familiarity and warmth that I almost wept. Think I will get back into perfume next year.

scampish inquisition (gyac), Sunday, 20 December 2020 11:03 (two months ago) link

I have been steadily developing my own perfume organ of essential oils. Unfortunately some do not smell very good. Sandalwood proved a disappointed whiff.

| (Latham Green), Sunday, 20 December 2020 12:45 (two months ago) link

Xp I feel that way about CK1. It was the height of teen sophistication when I was at school in the 90s and I adored it. Of course we were poor and I wasn’t allowed to spend any of the money I earned so I couldn’t afford it or any other perfume, cheap or not. Owning more than one bottle of perfume at a time feels like the height of luxury to me.

just1n3, Sunday, 20 December 2020 23:57 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

i got cartier roadster sport and z zegna milan for crimbus. the cartier smells like a designer, a high end designer. it's so great, it's like bryan ferry's slave to love, it's elegant and so pop at the same time. it's smooth, it's green, it's glossy, it's like glass. the green smells like mint but it's rosemary. the zegna i didn't know how it smelled but it's got a fig note so i wanted it. there's a prominent low-end designer mall accord initially, like a knockoff impression of aventus or encre noire, a burnt, synthetic smokiness that i assume signifies sexinessitude. but after that there's a dense figginess and some clary sage greenfullness, so it's all good. mall accord or not, it's pretty ok. by mall accord i mean what that sounds like it means. i have diptyque philosykos, which is fig but smells like fig wood, and ferragamo homme, which is fig leaf, and i had a hermes jardin au mediterranee sample or whatever which is also fig leaf. i had a l'artisan caligna sample which i think had the best fig fruit note to it. fuck it, i'll get all the figs.

i got my brother the roma, so now i can wear it. also lalique lion, which is straight class, and the armaf clone of creed imperial mellesime, which is supposedly really close to the creed. fuck creed prices, i say, unless you have the cash, then just get the creed. it's just money.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 23 January 2021 11:20 (one month ago) link

I hadn’t said so in here I think but I bought a bottle of Caldey Island lavender on the basis of its five star review in Perfumes the Guide and it being, idk, made by monks? Anyway it arrived a few weeks back and I really like it. Have always associated lavender with sleep/somnolence, but this is a sweet and summery thing. It lifts the mood and isn’t remotely soporific, quite the opposite. It’s a nice perfume for summer, sure, but worn in the dead grey of winter, it’s something harvested in brighter days bearing the promise that the sun and better days will return. Or something. It’s very good.

scampish inquisition (gyac), Saturday, 23 January 2021 11:53 (one month ago) link

Slightly practical question: 19 year old nephew requested Nasomatto's Blamage for his birthday. It's £125 so he can jog on.

Fragrantica suggests:


What should he have? Not Lynx before someone suggests that. Bonus points if not tested on animals.

djh, Thursday, 4 February 2021 20:05 (one month ago) link

Reminded me of Bulgari Black, a gorgeous fragrance in its own right, however it’s not sold in the UK anymore so you have to order it online from fragrancex or similar (15% off though). Well worth his time. And yes, it’s legit, I’ve bought from there before and checked the batch codes.

scampless, rattled and puce (gyac), Thursday, 4 February 2021 20:45 (one month ago) link

Bulgari Black is an interesting fragrance to be sure, though it does have a burnt rubber note that might be a turnoff for some.

Josefa, Thursday, 4 February 2021 22:46 (one month ago) link

Thanks, both.

djh, Sunday, 7 February 2021 12:31 (three weeks ago) link

Sorry I couldn't think of a suggestion. L'Homme Ideal L'Intense by Guerlain has some of those characteristics but not the animalic or the musky. Chanel Antaeus would seem a good match, and is one I love personally, but it might smell too old-fashioned for a 19-year-old (after all it was introduced in 1981).

Josefa, Sunday, 7 February 2021 14:53 (three weeks ago) link

this thread inspired me to order a bunch of CdG samples and see which pleased me. i've been drawn to their line of fragrances for a long time but had never picked any up. finally ordered myself a bottle of Wonderoud as a birthday treat. i'm also a fan of Concrete, but found it barely detectable on my skin after a short while. maybe i just need a bigger supply.

so here's the thing, uh, how does one develop their sense of smell? i can smell things, and sometimes i like the things (like CdG's Oud for one), but i have NO IDEA what i am smelling. how do y'all learn how to detect different notes in a scent? i'd have a deeper appreciation for fragrances/parfums if i could build up a little more familiarity

davey, Sunday, 7 February 2021 15:40 (three weeks ago) link

hmm, i guess Concrete is a skin scent and not meant to project? neat.

davey, Sunday, 7 February 2021 15:42 (three weeks ago) link

if i like something i'll look up the notes on fragrantica or basenotes. usually i can then pick out a few of the prominent notes but most fragrances have so many notes that they're all jumbled up in an amorphous scent cloud. if i'm unsure of what a particular note smells like i'll try several fragrances that feature that note and just kinda eliminate the differences.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 13 February 2021 05:12 (two weeks ago) link

thank u for that, slugbuggy. fragranica is gonna be helpful. :)

after my last post i went crazy and bought bottles of CdG's (underappreciated) Concrete and (much praised) Copper, and i'd like to get more stuff from that house... i guess i'm a bit of a label whore.

anyway, this stuff is pretty fun and i get why people get into collecting perfumes/colognes. that last purchase it for me for a while, though—cutting myself off until i use most of what i've ordered and Luckyscent takes all my money.

davey, Saturday, 13 February 2021 09:07 (two weeks ago) link

that stuff all sounds great, Davey, wonderoud sounds like extremely my kind of thing

I have been wanting to splurge on a bunch of samples lately but I’m trying to be good and use the frags I have because they are really lovely.

brimstead, Saturday, 13 February 2021 17:42 (two weeks ago) link

I just want a sample of every Tom Ford fragrance please. I’m hopeless for Tom Ford.

brimstead, Saturday, 13 February 2021 17:44 (two weeks ago) link

my friend loves one of those Tom Ford scents... she says it smells exactly like cocaine.

davey, Saturday, 13 February 2021 18:14 (two weeks ago) link

I almost laughed out loud with a mixture of delight/bemusement when I smelled Tom Ford’s Ombré Leather for the first time, it’s like “yea ok maybe I do want to smell like a brand new car!”

brimstead, Saturday, 13 February 2021 19:14 (two weeks ago) link

that's the one!

davey, Saturday, 13 February 2021 19:21 (two weeks ago) link

i think

davey, Saturday, 13 February 2021 19:21 (two weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

I've very recently gotten into fragrance in my 30s by way of a late-breaking obsession with incense (file under hobbies/habits acquired under quarantine). Agree with all that Tom Ford frags are lovely. Beau de Jour is the one for me; it makes me feel like I've just walked out of a high-end neon barbershop freshly styled and shaven.

So far I've found the CdG Incense line resonates the strongest with me. Just got a bottle of Avignon last week and have my nose set on Kyoto next. Because I didn't grow up going to church--Catholic or otherwise--I don't associate frankincense and myrrh with any of that stuff. To me it just smells NICE in a way that directly activates my pleasure centers whenever I spray on Avignon or burn a stick of Fred Soll's Resin on a Stick Frankincense and Myyrh incense.

Xps I got a sample of CdG Concrete a few weeks ago. It is surprisingly light, sweet, and sandalwoody and I really like it. I also just really love the concrete bottle as an object, and the concept of the whole thing. So I'll probably cop a bottle when I have the funds. I tried Copper in-store and found it kind of off-putting, but I'll probably give it another shot. Has anyone tried any of their Olfactory Library stuff (Tar, Soda, Garage, etc)?

J. Sam, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 19:45 (three days ago) link

Even though I rarely leave the house much, I've taken to wearing the perfume from my old place of work, Aesop's Mystra, now discontinued. Labdanum, mastic, frankincense—. I had forgotten how much I love it. Wonder what I'll do when it's run out— it is rather expensive, and I'd much rather see what else is out there, since the world of perfume is so intriguing to me.

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 20:33 (three days ago) link

on the incense tip, i really like Tauer's incense-meets-desert stuff, L'Air du desert marocain or Au coeur du desert - which i realize i already mentioned too much above. Memo's African Leather smells v similar to my nose. It's not as eSoTeRiC and catholic as others i suppose but really beautiful. Personally I didn't love the Olfactory Library ones i've sniffed - someone like CB I Hate Perfume had better weird evocation scents for me, though i found they didn't last very long.

recently i bit the bullet and sprang for a whole bottle of Monocle/CDG's Hinoki perfume, which has a sharp cypress wood smell and then also this bloom of camphor that makes it at once "clarifying" and almost piney + at the same time sort of toxic, in a way i like. A nice alternative to some of the more sumptuous/incensey other things i wear. excited to try it in summer!

sean gramophone, Wednesday, 3 March 2021 03:22 (two days ago) link

I really like the CdG Hinoki. Good to see others liking the same

mh, Wednesday, 3 March 2021 15:47 (two days ago) link

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