US Politics, May 2023: May 1 never happened

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weird global event yesterday with the day not happening, hope it doesn't happen again

z_tbd, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 16:58 (eleven months ago) link

idgi i saw everyone posting May Day memes?

sarahell, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 17:01 (eleven months ago) link

I was tempted to try McCarthy's Ghost, glad you jumped in and blocked me

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 17:02 (eleven months ago) link

oh no intended comment on may day, or any actual thing that happened yesterday. i was just joking about there being no thread until the 2nd. somebody's gotta make a thread and give it a title, it may as well question the existence of a 24 hour period

z_tbd, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 17:04 (eleven months ago) link

Good morning!☕️

The Senate Judiciary Committee is about to begin its post-Clarence-Thomas-ethics-scandal hearing on Supreme Court ethics reform.

Dick Durbin really wants bipartisan action.

Only one GOP senator has proposed doing anything at all. https://t.co/Ngdu6o3odd

— Jennifer Bendery (@jbendery) May 2, 2023

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 17:49 (eleven months ago) link

Good retort to Gov Asshole Abbott after last weekend's shooting:

“Why do they discriminate against immigrants so much? In what way are we affecting him? What harm have we caused him?” Josué Rivera told ABC News. “He’s making his living and we’re here to make our own? We don’t care if he wants to make his money through politics – we’re here to make an honorable living.”

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 17:54 (eleven months ago) link

Most elected Dems are not courageous enough to push back against the "illegals" name-calling and to defend the the fact that people are coming here to work and wish the asylum process worked efficiently and allowed them to become US citizens

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 00:13 (eleven months ago) link

This is how Fetterman is dressed while on his way to the Senate floor to cast a vote. An absolute disgrace. pic.twitter.com/KvW1n3SgiD

— Alana Mastrangelo (@ARmastrangelo) May 2, 2023

The replies to this tweet from a breitbart journalist are just dozens of blue check breitbart followers saying “this is good, actually”.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 3 May 2023 02:32 (eleven months ago) link

Yeah maybe he should be wearing a bunch of Carhartt waving a confederate flag and peeing in the hallways. That might be more their style.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 20:23 (eleven months ago) link

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/03/gop-manchin-sinema-debt-crisis-00094998

Manchin has urged Biden to work directly with Speaker Kevin McCarthy and regularly puts out statements pushing for bipartisan talks that show up in GOP press releases. Sinema has quietly dined with McCarthy and signaled her hopes for a negotiated solution to GOP senators.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 23:07 (eleven months ago) link

Sinema has quietly dined with McCarthy

and she knows the perfect chenin blanc that will go with that poached halibut

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 23:14 (eleven months ago) link

I am a big Fetterman supporter but I would rather he dressed normally.

treeship., Wednesday, 3 May 2023 23:35 (eleven months ago) link

Fuck that

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 3 May 2023 23:46 (eleven months ago) link

I dunno, he always looks pretty awkward wearing a suit

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 23:53 (eleven months ago) link

Wasn't he coming back from the gym?

That being said who gives a fuck if he wasn't. This is concern trolling at its finest

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 4 May 2023 00:03 (eleven months ago) link

I am a big Fetterman supporter but I would rather he dressed normally.

― treeship., Wednesday, May 3, 2023 11:35 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

honest question -- why?

ian, Thursday, 4 May 2023 00:25 (eleven months ago) link

what is "dressed normally"

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 May 2023 00:29 (eleven months ago) link

Fetterman should wear cargo shorts and Timbs to all affairs of state.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 4 May 2023 00:39 (eleven months ago) link

he does dress to the senate dress code when he’s in the senate chamber

it plays better to me that he wears what he’s always worn when talking to constituents or campaigning. all kinds of politicians do a little cosplay when campaigning to look like they’re farmers, cowboys, whatever but Fetterman dresses as Fetterman

mh, Thursday, 4 May 2023 01:02 (eleven months ago) link

the brand is strong

Clay, Thursday, 4 May 2023 01:04 (eleven months ago) link

Mother said I must dress like Little Lord Fauntleroy or she shall be ever so cross.

peace, man, Thursday, 4 May 2023 01:09 (eleven months ago) link

CW: that thread contains multiple pictures of a sweaty Ted Cruz

JoeStork, Thursday, 4 May 2023 01:11 (eleven months ago) link

“i simply demand that my politicians look like middle management hacks!” gtfoh with that nonsense

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Thursday, 4 May 2023 01:16 (eleven months ago) link

I posted that tweet to point out that even Twitter blue checks who follow breitbart reporters think he dresses ok. Did not expect an actual debate about it.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 4 May 2023 01:17 (eleven months ago) link

My senator has one and a half hands.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FprHuKIXsAME7xi.jpg

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 4 May 2023 01:47 (eleven months ago) link

ok?

mh, Thursday, 4 May 2023 05:48 (eleven months ago) link

I know there’s a NY thread somewhere but I have to say that the both sidesism in the blatant vigilante murder of a homeless individual on the Subway has got me fucking furious. All the news coverage does is confirm that the US hates poor people, disdains those with mental illnesses, and wishes death upon those populations.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Thursday, 4 May 2023 11:20 (eleven months ago) link

ftr in NYC last weekend I rode the subway for 95% of my trips, encountered at least four Jordan Neeles, never once felt threatened, no one paid attention to them. No doubt Times Square NIMBYS would've had them all shot.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 May 2023 11:46 (eleven months ago) link

Between this and the "stand your ground" shootings, it's like we're having a Purge moment here. I bet the Claremont Institute or Heritage Foundation will publish a paper on the social benefits of vigilante violence.

BREAKING: A jury convicted four Proud Boys leaders, including former chairman Enrique Tarrio, of conspiring against the U.S. government on Jan. 6 — but hasn't decided yet whether the man who caused the first breach was part of it. https://t.co/8XqMaXoBjJ

— Jordan Fischer (@JordanOnRecord) May 4, 2023

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 May 2023 15:53 (eleven months ago) link

He's been convicted of other counts, though, so there's that. Basically that guy, Pezzola, seems like more like a meathead who did other shit but wasn't involved in the direct planning. In any event, pretty sweeping victory for the DOJ and a hell of a lot that can be used further in the record -- plus this point about Tarrio, the guy in charge:

Tarrio was NOT at Capitol on Jan 6

A conviction on charge of seditious conspiracy is a huge win for Justice Dept. And a potential piece of enormous leverage for any future defendant who wasn’t at Capitol on Jan 6 … but is considered part of the conspiracy

— Scott MacFarlane (@MacFarlaneNews) May 4, 2023

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2023 15:56 (eleven months ago) link

Fetterman looks so weird in a suit, it always looks like those weird plotlines in the WWE where one wrestler dresses up to accept some award and winds up eating a Stone Cold Stunner instead

there are photos of him wearing shorts and a sweatshirt in the snow. if he's doing that to embellish his "Midwestern guy" image then he's a brilliant politician. I think that's just who he is though.

frogbs, Thursday, 4 May 2023 15:57 (eleven months ago) link

Tarrio is garbage.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 May 2023 16:12 (eleven months ago) link

Precedent: set.

There have been *14* convictions to seditious conspiracy stemming from Jan. 6

Oath Keepers
1) Stewart Rhodes
2) Kelly Meggs
3) Roberto Minuta
4) Ed Vallejo
5) Joseph Hackett
6) David Moerschel
7) William Todd Wilson (plea)
8) Joshua James (plea)
9) Brian Ulrich (plea)

— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) May 4, 2023

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 May 2023 16:23 (eleven months ago) link

Proud Boys
1) Enrique Tarrio
2) Ethan Nordean
3) Joseph Biggs
4) Zachary Rehl
5) Jeremy Bertino (plea)

— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) May 4, 2023

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 May 2023 16:24 (eleven months ago) link

there's a lot of dusty old laws on the books that aren't used much anymore ("No eating ice cream on within 50 yards of church on Sunday" etc.), but I'm glad we still have 'seditious conspiracy' on the books... it also sounds like a sick Krokus album

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 4 May 2023 16:42 (eleven months ago) link

^^^ Actually more like a Corrosion of Conformity album

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 4 May 2023 16:44 (eleven months ago) link

Sidvicious Conspiracy is the name of my Pistols tribute band

coolgnoscenti (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 4 May 2023 18:05 (eleven months ago) link

I don't think you're ready for this jailing, 'cause my body too sedilicious for ya.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 May 2023 18:08 (eleven months ago) link

The so called “pro business” and “fiscally responsible” trade and beltway groups are endorsing the McCarthy/MAGA play to drive the economy off a cliff (default) or into a recession (w/ cuts deeper than sequestration & 800k job loss). How are these options pro-biz or responsible? https://t.co/pebUjdpnH9

— Lindsay Owens, PhD (@owenslindsay1) May 4, 2023

curmudgeon, Friday, 5 May 2023 03:16 (eleven months ago) link

The so called “pro business” and “fiscally responsible” trade and beltway groups believe they can make bigger profits under a GOP-dominated government more easily than a Democrat-dominated one. After all, McConnell delivered them a gift of massive tax breaks as recently as 2017. This belief is tenuous at best, but they prefer gambling on keeping in the good graces of a MAGA-dominated Repuublican party to making a few relatively painless compromises with the Democrats. It's probably just that simple.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 5 May 2023 03:46 (eleven months ago) link

Wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a sense among some of them that this is a pivotal political moment, getting Trump re-elected is their one big shot at fascism lite, and they’re willing to accept a short-term setback to make that happen.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Friday, 5 May 2023 05:15 (eleven months ago) link

Cause you know if it goes off the rails there’s gonna be a whole lot of ‘both sides’ BS in the corporate media that will sufficiently befuddle swing voters and leave them with the feeling it’s mainly Biden’s mess cause he’s the Prez.

Plus it’s just common sense that Republicans are better at the economy amirite. (Pretty sure there was a recent poll even suggesting many Democratic voters feel like the GOP is stronger at economics?)

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Friday, 5 May 2023 05:18 (eleven months ago) link

Haven't the Republicans got the short end of every other shutdown?

This machine bores fascism (PBKR), Friday, 5 May 2023 11:33 (eleven months ago) link

Have they? Maybe, but for now the public seems mostly split on this one. 36% blame Biden, 39% blame the GOP.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/05/05/debt-ceiling-poll/

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Friday, 5 May 2023 13:04 (eleven months ago) link

The problem is political media, which thinks the debt ceiling is negotiable, therefore Biden and the GOP have to "compromise."

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 May 2023 13:06 (eleven months ago) link

Biden just needs to hold the line and not negotiate with terrorists and rely on the fact that it will be Republicans who are shutting down the government, which has been the story every other time this has happened.

This machine bores fascism (PBKR), Friday, 5 May 2023 13:26 (eleven months ago) link

Yeah, might be tough to explain the debt ceiling to the average non-wonk, but shutting government down usually gets everyone's attention, especially when people stop getting expected pay and benefits in the mail because (checks notes) the GOP wants to cut their benefits by billions.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 May 2023 13:52 (eleven months ago) link

Yeah, might be tough to explain the debt ceiling to the average non-wonk

with the caveat that i understand the federal budget is very different from household expenses (ie, "tightening the belt" on spending is different for the federal government than it is for mom and pop sitting around the kitchen table),

the line i always used was that the debt ceiling is a credit card bill that has to be paid. it's a bill for things that have already been purchased. you can't suddenly have a realization that you're spending too much and refuse to pay off your credit card. the time for demanding giant cuts to social services is during the passing of the federal budget.

i think the very term "debt ceiling" obscures the fact that it is referring to paying for spending that has already occurred

z_tbd, Friday, 5 May 2023 16:45 (eleven months ago) link

and alfred otm on political media. what a fucking shitshow, year after year, zero learning, negative learning. cnn working with trump to schedule a "town hall", what a balogna load

z_tbd, Friday, 5 May 2023 16:46 (eleven months ago) link

Maybe we should close tax loopholes to bring spending more in line with revenue. Just an idea I had while taking peyote in the desert.

treeship., Friday, 5 May 2023 16:49 (eleven months ago) link

Looking at the rationale for 14th Amdmnt makes me go “the debt ceiling vote itself is unconstitutional on its face. Congress undertakes the spending, obligation is inherent, the end.” To make another step is an absurdity within the language of the Amndnt. I’ll pretend not to notice old conservative screeds to this effect.

Laurie Anderson’s Singing Bowl Migraine Orchestra (Hunt3r), Friday, 5 May 2023 17:43 (eleven months ago) link

Also what treesh wrote

Laurie Anderson’s Singing Bowl Migraine Orchestra (Hunt3r), Friday, 5 May 2023 17:44 (eleven months ago) link

the comments from hochul and adams about the subway killing were some of the most ghoulish political statements from democratic leaders since...idk, the segregation era?

just a severe feeling of hopelessness knowing we're stuck with those assholes for many more years

ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Friday, 5 May 2023 22:11 (eleven months ago) link

JUST IN: 8 of the false pro-Trump electors in Georgia accepted immunity deals from the Fulton County DA, new filing indicates. pic.twitter.com/nJSe6iFbnp

— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) May 5, 2023

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 May 2023 22:47 (eleven months ago) link

I admit that this incident and some of what is being said on the Twitter thread really just makes me comfortable in saying fuck the vote blue no matter who types, we need to get these fascist Dems out of government just as fast as the fascist GOP ghouls. I simply won’t hold my nose and vote for people who are so equally (but differently) committed to the complete devaluation of human life, particularly poor and non-white lives.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 5 May 2023 22:52 (eleven months ago) link

I don’t know why New York Dems are so right wing. Michigan and Minnesota D’s show how it’s done when you have complete control

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 6 May 2023 02:15 (eleven months ago) link

Whenever young NY dems try and infiltrate the old NY dems literally change the rules to ice them out. It’s really dispiriting and gross

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 6 May 2023 02:26 (eleven months ago) link

It’s wild that AOC has been reelected tbh

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 6 May 2023 02:27 (eleven months ago) link

Reading about Teddy Roosevelt’s time in the NY legislature was enlightening. It’s been rotten forever.

I blame it in Albany. They should’ve made the capital a nicer city. (Apologies to any Albanyans.)

No apologies, Albany is a pit

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Saturday, 6 May 2023 03:35 (eleven months ago) link

The Egg, though.

henry s, Saturday, 6 May 2023 03:42 (eleven months ago) link

having grown up in the Albany burbs, I can't defend it.

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Saturday, 6 May 2023 05:08 (eleven months ago) link

DeSantis shoots his state in its collective dick again...watch the video.

Negative impact on Florida has begun from the recently passed DeSantis’ anti-immigrant bill. Immigrant labor is leaving as construction work sites grapple with new restrictions. All to demonize people who simply want to work and be left alone while providing for their families. pic.twitter.com/JQfqPxKbsC

— Thomas Kennedy (@tomaskenn) May 7, 2023

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 7 May 2023 23:11 (eleven months ago) link

Circling back on this legitimately alarming bit:

So Florida is simultaneously trying to institute the death penalty for child sexual abuse while insisting that queer and trans people are by definition sexually "grooming" children.

The math is grim.https://t.co/QjG93iZxa6

— Absurdistwords (@absurdistwords) May 5, 2023

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Monday, 8 May 2023 14:07 (eleven months ago) link

Yeah that's the thing I keep shouting about, it's scary, esp since SCOTUS is almost sure to uphold it because "lol precedent who cares"

Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Monday, 8 May 2023 14:12 (eleven months ago) link

To link grooming with pedophilia has always been the goal. They can't go after the marriage decisions, so you go with the most despised in society by even libs.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 May 2023 14:19 (eleven months ago) link

And here he is crowing about it:

DeSantis, having a normal one this morning pic.twitter.com/a1726JuSu5

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) May 8, 2023

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Monday, 8 May 2023 14:27 (eleven months ago) link

Everything but the bloodhounds yappin' at his rear end!

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 May 2023 14:30 (eleven months ago) link

DeSantis shoots his state in its collective dick again...

Florida's collective dick? I was informed that Florida is itself somewhat dick-shaped.

So a dick within a dick is... dickception? or metadicktion?

coolgnoscenti (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 8 May 2023 16:46 (eleven months ago) link

Do we have or need or general strike thread?

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 8 May 2023 19:59 (eleven months ago) link

Thank you!!!

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 8 May 2023 20:06 (eleven months ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/09/republican-drag-shows-danger-for-kids-resigns-misconduct-intern

A Republican Texas state lawmaker who once proposed banning children from attending drag shows to supposedly shield them from being groomed for abuse has resigned after he was found to have engaged in inappropriate sexual conduct with a 19-year-old intern.

Bryan Slaton, 45, resigned on Monday while facing mounting calls from the state’s Republican party and conservative groups to step down. A state house investigation last week determined that he supplied alcohol to the intern and another young staffer, had sex with the intern after she had become intoxicated, and later showed her a threatening email while saying everything would be fine if she kept quiet about the encounter.

rob, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:07 (eleven months ago) link

gasp!

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:09 (eleven months ago) link

That bitter cynicism of yours is something you've acquired since you left Radcliffe

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:12 (eleven months ago) link

It strikes me that Eric's disloyalty and ingratitude must be contagious!

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:13 (eleven months ago) link

JUST IN: Sen. Dianne Feinstein is returning to the Senate after an absence due to health issues prompted calls to resign. https://t.co/HVCAMDVOFu

— CBS Mornings (@CBSMornings) May 9, 2023

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:08 (eleven months ago) link

The good news/bad news joke writes itself.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:10 (eleven months ago) link

Stop, guys. She's rested and recharged for another century of service.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:11 (eleven months ago) link

does her return in person make it easier for her to step down from her committees and be replaced by a democrat?

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:13 (eleven months ago) link

She should declare her candidacy for president.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:15 (eleven months ago) link

She's back and ready to vote on Scalia's replacement

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:16 (eleven months ago) link

Is she too late for the 4:30 auto-gyro?

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:19 (eleven months ago) link

Stop, guys. She's rested and recharged for another century of service.

― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, May 9, 2023 4:11 PM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

irl lol

realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:23 (eleven months ago) link

George Santos indicted on federal charges. (Indictment is still sealed but he might be in court tomorrow.)

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 23:49 (eleven months ago) link

For now Biden demanding that Congress raise the debt ceiling unconditionally to avoid a default and McCarthy still insisting on his ransom price of spending cuts. They will meet again on Friday.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 04:20 (eleven months ago) link

The Santos charges are out: seven counts of wire fraud, three counts of money laundering, one count of theft of public funds, and two counts of making materially false statements to the House of Representatives. He's in custody. From the Times:

Broadly, George Santos has been charged in three schemes outlined in the indictment:

First, a fraudulent political contribution solicitation scheme, in which prosecutors say Santos and an unnamed Queens-based political consultant induced donors to give money to an LLC he controlled. He then used the money for personal expenses, including to buy designer goods and to pay off personal debts.

Second, an unemployment insurance fraud scheme: Prosecutors say that in June 2020, in the early months of the Covid-19 pandemic, Santos applied for government assistance in New York, even though he was at the time employed by a Florida-based investment firm and drew an annual salary of $120,000.

And, finally, the indictment says Santos misled the House of Representatives about his financial condition. In May 2020 – during his first, unsuccessful campaign – he is accused of overstating one source of income while failing to disclose his investment firm salary. And in September 2022, when he ran a second time, Santos is accused of including a number of falsehoods in his financial disclosure form.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 13:58 (eleven months ago) link

Perp walked too.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 14:01 (eleven months ago) link

You know he loved it. No such thing as bad publicity etc

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 14:11 (eleven months ago) link

Seriously, though, how come these things sometimes go fast from investigation to charges or arrest, and sometimes they drag on for years?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 14:13 (eleven months ago) link

They flipped someone fast.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 14:15 (eleven months ago) link

Santos also doesn't have the wealth, status, and lawyers of certain ex-presidents, all of which helps to grind these things down to an excruciatingly slow pace

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 14:20 (eleven months ago) link

It’s a hell of a thing. The organization was independent or it wasn’t. The money was in your personal account or not. You were unemployed or not. You disclosed or you didn’t. It’s not rocket science. They have an accomplice, text messages, bank records … https://t.co/CsQMZKUDPI

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) May 10, 2023

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 14:22 (eleven months ago) link

always a good idea to run for office on the national level when committing federal crimes

Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 14:44 (eleven months ago) link

-Donald Trump

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 14:49 (eleven months ago) link

I feel like the Santos story I haven't read enough about (but may have missed) is what his whole election says about the weaknesses of the system. Sure looks easy to just buy a congressional seat with a completely made-up candidate.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 14:57 (eleven months ago) link

santos technically had an opponent, too, a DNC stooge who managed to pale in comparison to the charisma of george santos

z_tbd, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 15:00 (eleven months ago) link

It seems like yet another one of those honor system norms that always worked, but only when there was at least some sense of an honor system, and norms.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 15:06 (eleven months ago) link

PBKR can correct me here, but I don't think they even bought many ads or did much campaigning.

It's probably easier to sneak one of these dudes in when the number of reps per media market is very high, especially with fewer local publications and limited tv markets. You have to be a real glad-handing grifter who's hitting the road and going to events in a state with four or fewer reps. In a state with twenty-six? Just find the right one and ride it out.

mh, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 15:06 (eleven months ago) link

God only knows what would turn up if you did a fact check on 20 years of congress people.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 15:07 (eleven months ago) link

that also reminds me of something i was reading recently about congressional apportionment, arguing that we need way more than 435 house reps. 435 reps was set in 1913, when the US had a much smaller population, so the number of constituents per house representative has gone way up. in 1793, each rep had 34,436 constituents, on average. in 1913, when the overall number of reps was set at 435, it was 210,000. now it's 761,000 constituents per rep.

it seems like a difficult problem to address, because doubling the number of reps means doubling the number of house rep races every 2 years and doubling the number of horrible assholes in congress

z_tbd, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 15:09 (eleven months ago) link

oops, xp mh - was typing that at the same time, but also thinking about number of reps

z_tbd, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 15:10 (eleven months ago) link

would head a PAC for z-tbc for Congress

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 15:14 (eleven months ago) link

as soon as I get his name right

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 15:14 (eleven months ago) link

thank u alfred. we should flood the zone with different spellings of candidate names, causing confusion and low voter morale from the very beginning

z_tbd, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 15:21 (eleven months ago) link

Didn't someone in one of the Illinois elections a year or two ago change their name to more or less that of their opponent?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 15:22 (eleven months ago) link

You know what kind of feels nice about this Santos thing? Maybe it's just me, but for once it does not feel like a distraction from Trump. It feels like an accumulation, momentum.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 15:39 (eleven months ago) link

actual consequences

Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 15:49 (eleven months ago) link

^ that, it's refreshing to see tangible consequences, even if it is for the most blatant, obvious, low hanging shit.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 16:04 (eleven months ago) link

Santos will go down for the sin of not being particularly useful to anyone with real power.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 17:48 (eleven months ago) link

But what a walk-on cameo huh? Months of entertainment.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 17:49 (eleven months ago) link

yeah it was fun to have him around. had this real Carter Page-like weirdo energy.

frogbs, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 17:50 (eleven months ago) link

also lets not get ahead of ourselves here this guy may very well be arrested and still get to serve in Congress, obviously Republican leadership ain't gonna do shit about this

frogbs, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 17:51 (eleven months ago) link

George was one of the holdouts in the gang led by Marge Greene who mugged Kevin McCarthy over the speakership. She'll be sorry to see him go.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 17:52 (eleven months ago) link

it's too bad santos was born in the 20th century instead of the 19th. he would've been a legendary flim-flammer going from town to town selling miracle tonics and magic boxes

ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 17:57 (eleven months ago) link

He still could be but they travel from podcast to podcast now.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 18:16 (eleven months ago) link

Doc Santos’s Intramuscular Elk Semen Injections put the fire back in your loins.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 18:18 (eleven months ago) link

hard to call him a 'disgraced former congressman' when he feels absolutely no shame for his chicanery

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 18:20 (eleven months ago) link

He's felt like a disgraced former congressman from the very start.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 18:22 (eleven months ago) link

yikes

“Hi everybody,” Feinstein says as she makes her return to the Senate pic.twitter.com/kH61KlzjVn

— Igor Bobic (@igorbobic) May 10, 2023

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 19:24 (eleven months ago) link

Just a reminder that Feinstein's ailment that kept her home away from the Capitol for 3 months was shingles.

Hospitalizations and Deaths

Approximately 1 to 4% of people who get shingles are hospitalized for complications. Older adults and people with weakened or suppressed immune system are more likely to be hospitalized. About 30% of people hospitalized for shingles have a weakened or suppressed immune system. Shingles causes fewer than 100 deaths annually. Almost all shingles deaths are in elderly or people with compromised immune system.

https://www.cdc.gov/shingles/surveillance.html

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 19:51 (eleven months ago) link

Even better (worse) one that looks like an Onion photo and caption:

Sen Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) returns to the Capitol for the first time since February 16th as she was recovering from a case of shingles —> pic.twitter.com/lDtPiUhDh4

— Frank Thorp V (@frankthorp) May 10, 2023

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 20:48 (eleven months ago) link

Remember when McCain flew back with a brain tumor to save ObamaCare? This is nothing

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 21:00 (eleven months ago) link

She looks like the grandpa from "Texas Chainsaw Massacre."

(Is it ageist to make fun of an ancient senator whose physical and mental decline and refusal to step down has hampered the success of her barely majority party?)

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 21:04 (eleven months ago) link

Don't worry, his people put out a clarification

Asked if he believed white nationalists should be allowed to serve in the military, US Senator for Alabama Tommy Tuberville said, referring to the Biden administration: “They call them that. I call them Americans.” https://t.co/AkdbonrPyE

— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) May 10, 2023

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 21:17 (eleven months ago) link

xp I obv don't want to make comments about an older woman's appearance, but those photos make it pretty clear why she was out for so long... in fact, shingles may be been the condition they decided to share, but perhaps not the only cause of her absence

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 21:26 (eleven months ago) link

shingles is brutal she's only 38

Laurie Anderson’s Singing Bowl Migraine Orchestra (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 21:32 (eleven months ago) link

I hope someone fixes Tuberville, if a fix is possible. What a villain.

I'd shit more on Feinstein but the revelation of shingles is worth sympathy to me. I've had friends and relations totally, utterly immiserated and humbled by it. It is usually incredibly painful and horrible and enduring. One of them was just-- 'get shingrix IMMED NOW."

Laurie Anderson’s Singing Bowl Migraine Orchestra (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 21:32 (eleven months ago) link

(i did)

Laurie Anderson’s Singing Bowl Migraine Orchestra (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 21:33 (eleven months ago) link

yeah, I'm thinking I should look into a shingles vaccination, I've heard it's pretty awful

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 21:33 (eleven months ago) link

it looks like it affected one side of her face. it must have been incredibly painful

Dan S, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 21:34 (eleven months ago) link

I got the 2-shot shingles vax and it was nothing, the needle jab was the only bad part.

nickn, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 21:37 (eleven months ago) link

my mum's husband is 70. he had shingles about 5 years ago. his eye still looks like that and he's extremely shaky five years later. it's awful stuff. can't imagine what it's like at her age.

CDC recommends vaccination for everyone over 50 and all adults with weakened immune systems (whether or not you know you had chickenpox).

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 21:38 (eleven months ago) link

I had shingles a couple of years ago all over my right hand and arm up to the elbow, and another patch on my right side and my back. Based on the descriptions I've read, it was a mild case, and it still fucking sucked.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 21:47 (eleven months ago) link

So DeSantis's latest legislative fuckery is having the expected effect:

Florida fucked up. pic.twitter.com/tnEoAgVBeS

— The Infamous El Guapo (@InfamusElGuapo) May 9, 2023

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 21:48 (eleven months ago) link

I have a good friend that got shingles while she was I believe pregnant, she said it was the worst. This past Christmas my brother in law apparently was recovering from it, but we wouldn't have known had someone else not brought it up. There's a really good Conan O'Brien story about him getting shingles in his '20s:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b015KoeUGvc

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 21:48 (eleven months ago) link

I remember when David Letterman had shingles and it affected his eye(s). When he came back on the show he said he wouldn't wish that pain on his worst enemy.

nickn, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 22:01 (eleven months ago) link

Disney's Bob Iger had an earnings call today and had some things to say about DeSantis (not by name, of course):

NEW: Here is the complete transcript of Iger's comments about Florida.

"Does the state (Florida) want us to invest more, employ more people and pay more taxes or not?" pic.twitter.com/3jRw3k8AOz

— Scott Gustin (@ScottGustin) May 10, 2023

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 22:02 (eleven months ago) link

my friend's father (somewhere in his mid-80's) has shingles presently and she said he looks like he's about to die and has looked like this for weeks and weeks now. my dad got it when he was in his mid-40's and he was in a huge amount of pain

I got vaxxed for this shit about a month after I turned 50.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 22:06 (eleven months ago) link

okay I'm making an appointment now

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 22:10 (eleven months ago) link

The first shingles vax wiped me out for a day, but I doubled it up w/ tetanus, so I think that may have caused it. The second one was comparatively milder, about the same as the vid vax. (You need to space them out by 6 months.)

henry s, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 22:41 (eleven months ago) link

2-to-6 months is the official recommendation

Dan S, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 22:42 (eleven months ago) link

Ah yeah, that's right. I did space them out by 6 months, because lazy I guess.

henry s, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 22:43 (eleven months ago) link

While we are sharing shingles stories when I was 30 I threw out my back and couldn’t move for hours and the lingering pain lasted for a week. The first 12 hours were the worst pain I ever had in my life. Then, immediately upon feeling better, I got shingles. That was the second worst pain ever ever got.

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 22:48 (eleven months ago) link

Book of Job 2

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 22:59 (eleven months ago) link

I have a hazy memory of having chicken pox as a small child, but there's no one left who can confirm it

(or was it measles? I don't know)

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 23:01 (eleven months ago) link

Two Job

Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 23:07 (eleven months ago) link

Everybody I know who's had shingles has been totally miserable, even younger healthy people, so yeah. I really need to do that.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 23:18 (eleven months ago) link

I remember our mother deliberately letting my younger sister and me go out and play with the neighbor kid who had chicken pox so we would get it and then be immune. That was the thinking in the 60s. There was no understanding then that Herpes Varicella-Zoster was a virus that continued to live in the body in the dorsal root ganglia and could be reactivated.

I got shingles around the time I turned 50. I was lucky because it only affected my upper torso on one side and my upper arm. My sister had it in her mouth and was beside herself with pain, and she still has residual side effects, mostly aphthous ulcers when she is stressed or gets sick

There was an inferior vaccine which was the only one you could get for many years before Shingrix was introduced in 2017. Shingrix was then largely unavailable for several years, I'm not sure why, maybe because of a lawsuit. I managed to get it in 2020, after requesting it for several years. It is now widely available.

I read that Feinstein got a vaccine, but wonder if it was the one from before 2017. From the looks of it, her facial nerve was affected

Dan S, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 23:19 (eleven months ago) link

yeah, I listened to that Conan podcast thing above, and it sounds like it fucked up the nerves in his eyes/face for years to come... he would feel weird tingles behind his eye, even years after it cleared up.
Anyway, sent a note to my doctor, begging for the vaxx

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 23:25 (eleven months ago) link

okay, my HMO says I should come in and get the shot, also one for pneumonia and maybe tetanus... that should be a fun couple days

But thanks to Sen. Feinstein for getting me off my ass about this!

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 23:34 (eleven months ago) link

I had my first Shringrix with those two other shots! They jabbed the Shingrix in one arm and the other two in the other arm. Both my arms hurt for a few days, and since I like to sleep on my side it was a little uncomfortable, but it was fine

Dan S, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 23:40 (eleven months ago) link

Lol jab-braggin: i lived in the hosp for two months and got wee shots in me belly every mornin 6:30a for blood thinning et al. I got A LOT of other shots too, just not as regular. Me and needles, big or small, we good.

Shingrix vax was not notable to me wrt side effects, I do encourage them generally if ur doc sez so.

Laurie Anderson’s Singing Bowl Migraine Orchestra (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 23:51 (eleven months ago) link

my punk name is Andy Vaxxer, might need to rethink that

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 23:59 (eleven months ago) link

Shingles vaxx fucked me up more than Covid vaxx but still worth it

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 11 May 2023 00:06 (eleven months ago) link

Wow.

I'm not 50 yet. Guess I should get this eh

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 May 2023 00:07 (eleven months ago) link

I'm 57, I got the shingles vax a couple of years ago. Felt like I got punched in the arm, no other noticeable side effects.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 11 May 2023 00:09 (eleven months ago) link

Shingles is the absolute worst. My grandmother had it in her nethers and it basically sapped her will to live and she chose euthanasia. Horrifying. I'd have gotten the vaccine already if it weren't for not being 50

octobeard, Thursday, 11 May 2023 00:26 (eleven months ago) link

That’s awful.

The fact that it is called “shingles” should be warning enough. Other than “piles” (which I think is more like slang actually) there may not be a less pleasant sounding ailment. (Not that ailments are under any obligation to sound pleasant.)

henry s, Thursday, 11 May 2023 00:40 (eleven months ago) link

Piles are just hemorrhoids, easily treated if you are aware of your body

Dan S, Thursday, 11 May 2023 00:52 (eleven months ago) link

y'all making me want to check w/ mom to see if dad's gotten his shingrix yet

Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 May 2023 00:58 (eleven months ago) link

I got chicken pox relatively late when I was 16 and it was easily the sickest I've ever been, feverish, hallucinating, feeling like my skin was burning from head to toe. I'm led to believe that getting it late makes me more susceptible to shingles, and I'm really not into that idea, get me that vax.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 11 May 2023 00:59 (eleven months ago) link

I got it at 24 and it started in my esophagus. Almost ended up with pneumonia.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 11 May 2023 01:31 (eleven months ago) link

Adding to all this shingles talk — my mom got it in the mid 2000s. Her description of it meant that when I finally turned 50 two years back I got my first Shingrix vaccine shot almost immediately, and I would have gotten it earlier if I could. Get it ASAP if you are eligible and haven’t.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 May 2023 01:42 (eleven months ago) link

i got the vaxx along with a covid booster and felt more or less like shit for a day or so. second shot was standalone and my arm hurt pretty badly but no other issues so I think maybe doing it with a booster wasn't the best decision, but whatever, I lived.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 11 May 2023 02:21 (eleven months ago) link

That's basically what happened to my wife. The two together really kicked her ass.

This machine bores fascism (PBKR), Thursday, 11 May 2023 02:26 (eleven months ago) link

So, like the COVID vax for many people then

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 May 2023 02:32 (eleven months ago) link

Another winning issue, no notes:

Republicans nationwide are now pushing to repeal No Fault Divorce laws. It’s. All. About. Having. Control. https://t.co/MMvyKKelgw

— Jack Hopkins (@thejackhopkins) May 5, 2023

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 11 May 2023 12:55 (eleven months ago) link

i haven't read this yet (it's 112 pages)

https://www.thebulwark.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/The-Corruption-of-Lindsey-Graham.pdf

z_tbd, Thursday, 11 May 2023 16:42 (eleven months ago) link

i should provide some context - it uses graham as an example of how the broader gop establishment capitulated to authoritarianism. i read about it on https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2023/05/the-hollow-men-2, which has excerpts. the early pages provide a good reminder of what was shocking to establishment republicans in 2015 and what they've acquiesced to.

Retributive torture.

On November 27, Trump said detainees accused of terrorism should be waterboarded even if their suffering elicited no information. “If it doesn't work, they deserve it anyway,” said Trump. In a debate on February 6, 2017, he repeated’ “I would bring back waterboarding, and I'd bring back a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding.”

After the debate, Graham disavowed Trump's remarks. “We don't torture people,” he said. “That makes us better.”

Targeting noncombatants.

In December 2015, Trump said he would “take out” terrorists' family members, threaten the “lives” of those family members, or make them “suffer.” He said he would do this intentionally, not qust as collateral
damage (in a strike aimed at the terrorists themselves) or during interrogations to avert an imminent attack, but as “retribution” and a deterrent.

Later, when Trump was advised that the military might refuse such orders because they were illegal, he shot back’ “They're not going to refuse me. . . . If I say, "Do it", they're going to do it.”

Graham was appalled. He protested that Trump would “kill . . . innocent people” and make the United States “barbaric like our enemies.” In March and April 2016, Graham threatened not to support Trump in a general election, in part because Trump might “order our troops to commit war crimes.”

of course, Trump's views in 2015 turned out to be more representative of what conservative voters actually think - physically punishing non-believers for eternity is a pillar of the white evangelicals who are trump's my loyal supporters - and also more in line with what the US military and CIA have been doing for decades. there was a stark reminder of that published just this morning (cw: torture) https://www.theguardian.com/law/2023/may/11/abu-zubaydah-drawings-guantanamo-bay-us-torture-policy

z_tbd, Thursday, 11 May 2023 17:01 (eleven months ago) link

Of course it's about control. Otherwise, they wouldn't care so much about what other people do.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 11 May 2023 17:22 (eleven months ago) link

I feel really bad for the future Ofsteven.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 11 May 2023 17:23 (eleven months ago) link

Every once in awhile, I'm reminded that as awful as literally everything Trump's done in his life is, he has for a very long time wanted to do far, far, far, far, far, far worse

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 11 May 2023 17:25 (eleven months ago) link

I know the intent is to evoke PATTON but all I see is the opening of FOLLOW THAT BIRD. pic.twitter.com/lQ4ETtDkPs

— Bill Chambers (@flmfrkcentral) May 1, 2023

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 11 May 2023 17:45 (eleven months ago) link

my god desantis is such a clown

c u (crüt), Thursday, 11 May 2023 17:52 (eleven months ago) link

he really is a caricature of himself, but with Paul Lynne's voice

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 11 May 2023 17:56 (eleven months ago) link

graphic designers apparently boycotting the desantis campaign (or wait, he's not actually running yet)

z_tbd, Thursday, 11 May 2023 18:01 (eleven months ago) link

Balanced, objective, and fair except when defending their own -- that's the Beltway press for ya.

Props to @kaitlancollins who was in an impossible position but did a heroic job of fact-checking Trump throughout the town hall. No easy task given how many factually untrue things he said in such a short time. Collins was a true pro and showed what a stellar journalist she is.

— Peter Baker (@peterbakernyt) May 11, 2023

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 May 2023 21:14 (eleven months ago) link

budget cut negotiations ongoing

curmudgeon, Friday, 12 May 2023 17:07 (eleven months ago) link

if the negotiations deliver a very small fig leaf to cover McCarthy's ass, then that could be acceptable compared to the unholy mess that a default would cause.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 12 May 2023 17:54 (eleven months ago) link

McCarthy is asking for huge cuts, and in hindsight economists say that Obama having agreed to huge cuts , hurt job growth . Can they come up with a reduced budget that doesn't cause pain and that can get votes in both the House and the Senate?

curmudgeon, Friday, 12 May 2023 22:34 (eleven months ago) link

Causing pain is kind of the point.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 12 May 2023 22:36 (eleven months ago) link

.@ddayen delivering stone cold truths: "We’re in a live hostage negotiation over what level of austerity will satisfy the hostage-takers." 😩https://t.co/EUoM1AcsvQ

— Kate Donald (@Mskaydee) May 12, 2023

curmudgeon, Friday, 12 May 2023 22:41 (eleven months ago) link

Sean Patrick Maloney and Tim Ryan, both Democratic losers of very expensive campaigns, named to the Coinbase Global Advisory council. Maloney is also now Biden’s ambassador to OECD. Versatile. pic.twitter.com/8aGwwUpatE

— Alex Sammon (@alex_sammon) May 12, 2023

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 12 May 2023 23:33 (eleven months ago) link

who the hell cares about the Cornhusker Advisory Board or whatever

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 May 2023 23:42 (eleven months ago) link

Debt ceiling debacle due in large part to Trump tax cuts which, no surprise, did not “pay for themselves.” Fuck McCarthy, the GOP, and anyone who votes for them.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Friday, 12 May 2023 23:49 (eleven months ago) link

I dunno, man, I think it's pretty shitty for Democratic politicians/Biden appointees to work for environment-destroying pyramid schemes. (also: FTX, Sean McElweenie, etc., lessons could perhaps be learned)

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 12 May 2023 23:55 (eleven months ago) link

Of course! I get that. But political parties employ talentless hacks to these committees/boards all the time.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 May 2023 23:58 (eleven months ago) link

Influence peddling is the norm doesn't make it less shitty or noteworthy?

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 13 May 2023 00:00 (eleven months ago) link

I met Chris Lehane at a conference when he was the lead national lobbyist for Airbnb. The grift goes on.

Cost of doing business

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 13 May 2023 17:50 (eleven months ago) link

Tuberville further clarifying:

In the Capitol on Thursday, Tuberville held several extended sessions with reporters explaining his position, at times embracing white nationalists but also rejecting racism.

“We can’t start distinguishing different types of people,” he said, in terms of supporting their right to serve.

Then, asked if white nationalists should serve in the military, he said, “Well, you got to define that first, what is a white nationalist?”

Reporters explained that white nationalists are white supremacists who support some Nazi views.

“You think a white nationalist is a Nazi? I don’t look at it like that. I look at a white nationalist as a Trump Republican,” Tuberville said, placing himself within their camp. “That’s what we’re called all the time, a MAGA person.”

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 14 May 2023 13:57 (eleven months ago) link

Still, with a deadline for a possible default looming as soon as June 1, Mr. Graves said four broad areas of negotiation have emerged for a potential budget deal: capping federal spending, reclaiming unspent funds designated for the Covid emergency, imposing stiffer work requirements for federal benefits and expediting permitting for energy projects.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/12/us/politics/garret-graves-debt-limit.html

curmudgeon, Sunday, 14 May 2023 15:26 (eleven months ago) link

Fuck you all

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 14 May 2023 15:32 (eleven months ago) link

Fuck you all


(The debt ceiling negotiators, R and D)

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 14 May 2023 15:32 (eleven months ago) link

Yep, it's bad.

A different approach in Minnesota where Dems have control

By the end of next week, the DFL-controlled Minnesota Legislature could spend much of the state's surplus, legalize marijuana, toughen gun control laws and create a state paid family and medical leave program. https://t.co/FVyBGyghiq

— Star Tribune (@StarTribune) May 13, 2023

curmudgeon, Sunday, 14 May 2023 15:38 (eleven months ago) link

It really feels like the DFL’s biggest swing in this state in quite a long time

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Sunday, 14 May 2023 15:46 (eleven months ago) link

I feel like moving to Minnesota to help the revolution succeed, like idealistic American Communists moved to the Soviet Union.

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 14 May 2023 17:26 (eleven months ago) link

But you'd have to live in Minnesota, which I should remind you is halfway between Wisconsin and the Dakotas. Draw your own conclusions.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 14 May 2023 17:46 (eleven months ago) link

Heading there tomorrow for 10 days!

The Twin Cities are cool. The cold, as Prince was fond of saying, keeps dickheads out (yes, I’m paraphrasing).

steely flan (suzy), Sunday, 14 May 2023 18:22 (eleven months ago) link

Weather is not an issue for me I lived there from birth to age 10 and went to college there!

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 14 May 2023 18:36 (eleven months ago) link

Interviewed Westerberg years ago, and this is what he said:

How did cold weather affect your development as a songwriter? Do you think you would have written the same songs had you formed the Replacements in Hawaii?

PW: Good question. We'll never know, but I suppose I would have. But I would have written less. The sheer volumes of songs have come from the hours of cold and darkness that one spends inside with the lights on. We make our own fun here, sort of. It's not like a constant summer day, like in L.A. I wouldn't get as much done if I was in a warm climate like that.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 14 May 2023 18:38 (eleven months ago) link

I considered moving to Minnesota about 10-12 years ago. Went to Minneapolis in mid-December to check it out. It seemed nice but we ultimately didn't pull the trigger, obviously.

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 14 May 2023 18:40 (eleven months ago) link

The cold, as Prince was fond of saying, keeps dickheads out

It's just as cold in the Dakotas and Wisconsin, so... draw your own conclusions.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 14 May 2023 18:44 (eleven months ago) link

Not really sure what this is supposed to mean, Aimless, but Washington is next to Idaho, and also Oregon, which is an infinitely worse place that either of the Dakotas or Wisconsin afaic— perhaps this explains why most people on the west coast

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Sunday, 14 May 2023 19:43 (eleven months ago) link

are such dickheads about it?

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Sunday, 14 May 2023 19:44 (eleven months ago) link

Would be nice if the Biden administration got courageous and argued for these ideas to handle immigration issues instead of what they are doing now

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/beyond-border-solutions

curmudgeon, Sunday, 14 May 2023 20:16 (eleven months ago) link

I'm to the point where I'm too old to spend many more winters in Minnesota. But come 50-75 years from now, it may well be the only inhabitable part of what will then be formerly known as the United States

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Sunday, 14 May 2023 20:52 (eleven months ago) link

. The cold, as Prince was fond of saying, keeps dickheads out (

The first draft of "Sometimes It Snows in April."

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 May 2023 21:46 (eleven months ago) link

Sometimes it snows on assholes

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Sunday, 14 May 2023 23:12 (eleven months ago) link

Hi dere, weird racist nihilistic death cult part 567:

https://wapo.st/42XhQre

gelatinous cubist (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 15 May 2023 01:23 (eleven months ago) link

Oh and backing up a few posts, the utter ridiculousness of standing in a line to get into a show in Minnesotan conditions has more than once been suggested as reasons for the comparatively vibrant music scene there.

The usual names get mentioned. Dylan, Huskers, Prince, Replacements, but let us observe a moment of silence for what is of course the pinnacle of upper-Midwestern musical achievement - indeed, artistic achievement: Semisonic

gelatinous cubist (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 15 May 2023 01:37 (eleven months ago) link

Low! A ton of amazing punk, hardcore, and crust bands, too.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Monday, 15 May 2023 02:26 (eleven months ago) link

I still can't quite believe I moved from MN to WI

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Monday, 15 May 2023 02:46 (eleven months ago) link

If the formula held true (bad weather = good music) then I would expect Fargo/Moorhead to eclipse Minneapolis/St. Paul.

Really Alaska and/or Antarctica ought to be dominating the indie scene hands down, and yet Jewel inexplicably fails to dominate the culture

gelatinous cubist (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 15 May 2023 02:50 (eleven months ago) link

Bad weather + state support for education, including the arts

Marvel Puzzle Quest is my favorite gasm (DJP), Monday, 15 May 2023 10:08 (eleven months ago) link

A number of Seattle musicians have told me, on separate occasions, that they credit that city's music scene to the bad weather and lots of people having basements where they can jam ad infinitum.

dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Monday, 15 May 2023 10:12 (eleven months ago) link

Re DJP’s point, there is a reason why so many literary non-profits are based in Minnesota— the state has a fair amount of resources dedicated to funding such ventures.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Monday, 15 May 2023 11:05 (eleven months ago) link

Florida, Southern California, and Jamaica have nice weather and therefore have produced exactly zero notable bands

gelatinous cubist (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 15 May 2023 12:55 (eleven months ago) link

exactly what we’ve been saying

Marvel Puzzle Quest is my favorite gasm (DJP), Monday, 15 May 2023 12:56 (eleven months ago) link

The Florida death metal scene, Paramore and Lynyrd Skynyrd would like a word.

But just one as they have a lunch engagement

Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Monday, 15 May 2023 13:03 (eleven months ago) link

Lol I read that backwards.

AS YOU WERE

Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Monday, 15 May 2023 13:04 (eleven months ago) link

I don't think Paramore is from Florida.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 May 2023 13:07 (eleven months ago) link

So now Cornel West's work appears on the WSJ op-ed page.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 May 2023 13:08 (eleven months ago) link

Take heed

'Cause I'm a lyrical poet

Miami's on the scene just in case you didn't know it

My town

That created all the bass sound

gelatinous cubist (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 15 May 2023 13:09 (eleven months ago) link

Pictured, top to bottom: Fred Durst, Florida

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 May 2023 13:16 (eleven months ago) link

I am pretty sure Neanderthal could, in fact, wax a chump like a candle

gelatinous cubist (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 15 May 2023 13:16 (eleven months ago) link

a well-timed tornado watch kept Trump away from visiting here this weekend

not that I’d prefer a tornado, but….

mh, Monday, 15 May 2023 13:22 (eleven months ago) link

Even at the height of 2000s right-wing Islamophobia you could anticipate this turn. pic.twitter.com/ORfU0ORkDY

— Adrian (@blagojevism) May 15, 2023

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Monday, 15 May 2023 17:04 (eleven months ago) link

This is where we remember how much Adolf Hitler admired (and tried to emulate) the way the U.S.A. dealt with its indigenous people: continuous serial relocation, concentration into undesirable areas, occasional spurts of genocide.

Similarly, yeah duh, of COURSE U.S.ian Christian theocrats are going to admire the ability of Islamic theocratic to impose their worldview on entire nation-states. It is exactly what U.S.ian Christian theocrats would love to be able to do in Alabama / Mississippi / South Carolina / Texas etc.

gelatinous cubist (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 15 May 2023 17:15 (eleven months ago) link

The sense of "they're just jealous" was pretty palpable even then

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Monday, 15 May 2023 17:16 (eleven months ago) link

compare the Handmaid's tale outfits to burqas and, well, you get the idea

gelatinous cubist (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 15 May 2023 17:20 (eleven months ago) link

many xps, i moved from MPLS to PDX and work in grants, and the funding environment is strikingly different here. it's taken some getting used to. but i'd also echo the sentiment that having 6 months a year inside + basements makes for a good deal of MN's cultural output. i'd also say it explains some of the angst/melancholy in these bands

global tetrahedron, Monday, 15 May 2023 17:40 (eleven months ago) link

Florida's lack of basements probably delayed Tom Petty's career trajectory by at least five years.

gelatinous cubist (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 15 May 2023 17:46 (eleven months ago) link

This is where we remember how much Adolf Hitler admired (and tried to emulate) the way the U.S.A. dealt with its indigenous people: continuous serial relocation, concentration into undesirable areas, occasional spurts of genocide.

Learning about this fascination was the best part about Caste.`

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 May 2023 17:53 (eleven months ago) link

the democrats appear to be getting their asses kicked with the debt ceiling. not only are they giving in (after doing the same in the obama years to calamitous effect, and knowing it), but they gave in before the gop took any political damage from holding the country hostage in exchange for cutting social service spending. they're just going to do the same thing during the next federal budget negotiation (which is the time when it's actually appropriate to negotiate about the federal budget, amazingly)

z_tbd, Monday, 15 May 2023 20:38 (eleven months ago) link

Where are you reading about the latest movements?

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 May 2023 20:42 (eleven months ago) link

not latest movements, more just that they're openly negotiating now

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/14/politics/debt-limit-talks-biden-republicans-cnntv/index.html

Negotiators have been able to pinpoint some areas on which congressional staff and the White House can find common ground, including revising the permitting process, rescinding unspent Covid-19 relief funds and potentially cutting spending, the sources said.

z_tbd, Monday, 15 May 2023 20:50 (eleven months ago) link

this Giuliani thing that just dropped into the news, uh...

mh, Monday, 15 May 2023 20:52 (eleven months ago) link

Ugh

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 15 May 2023 20:56 (eleven months ago) link

the details are horrifying. what a fucking creep

z_tbd, Monday, 15 May 2023 20:56 (eleven months ago) link

The allegations of sexual assault and harassment are horrifying enough, but the suit also makes a wide range of other allegations: That Rudy was selling pardons for $2 million a piece (and sharing proceedings with Trump), that he urged her to refuse to cooperate with the FBI, etc

— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) May 15, 2023

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 May 2023 21:02 (eleven months ago) link

Fucking hell.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 15 May 2023 21:04 (eleven months ago) link

there's a screenshot from the second Borat movie in the lawsuit pdf

He sat on the bed and pulled down his pants. The following
screenshot from the film Borat: Subsequent Moviefilm depicts Giuliani acting in a similar manner
to how he acted with Ms. Dunphy

mh, Monday, 15 May 2023 21:07 (eleven months ago) link

read the Daily Beast article, horrifying

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 15 May 2023 21:11 (eleven months ago) link

we kind of had suspicions that Giuliani was a demented, barely-coherent goblin that was drinking all the time but there it is in legal print

mh, Monday, 15 May 2023 21:16 (eleven months ago) link

finished skimming the pdf up through the 22nd cause of action bit in the lawsuit and I feel like I need to take a shower now

just the grossest shit

mh, Monday, 15 May 2023 21:44 (eleven months ago) link

"America's Mayor"

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Monday, 15 May 2023 22:10 (eleven months ago) link

Table, I almost posted that earlier! It was my first reaction after skimming the first few paragraphs of whichever story about this before closing the browser window in disgust

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 15 May 2023 22:18 (eleven months ago) link

same

z_tbd, Monday, 15 May 2023 22:19 (eleven months ago) link

Where are you reading about the latest movements

Excuse me but I am not sure how much I wish to speak about the latest movements

gelatinous cubist (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 15 May 2023 23:28 (eleven months ago) link

The movements are regular, I hope?

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 15 May 2023 23:59 (eleven months ago) link

They’re a bit nutty

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 00:11 (eleven months ago) link

Lose yourself in the movement the moment you own it you better never let it go

You only get one shot do not miss your chance to blow

Cause opportunity comes once in a lifetime

gelatinous cubist (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 00:24 (eleven months ago) link

With 62% of precincts reporting (not necessarily 62% of the final vote!), Donna Deegan (D) leads Daniel Davis (R) 54–46% for Jacksonville mayor. Jax is currently the largest US city with a GOP mayor. https://t.co/nShpW303Kh

— Nathaniel Rakich (@baseballot) May 16, 2023

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 23:45 (eleven months ago) link

Huge relief. Duval flipped in 2020, one of Florida's only Dem gains.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 23:46 (eleven months ago) link

Great news for Florida; I’ll take whatever good news I can get!

Completely unrelated thought but I’ve been thinking about split ticket voting and how voters tend to try to avoid giving all the power to one party. We usually think of it in terms of the Presidency and Congress. But I wonder if this historically conservative Supreme Court (as execrable and horrifying as it is) might give Democrats a slight but longer term advantage in elections when it comes to this tendency. When there is this ever-present feeling of dread and oppression from having a heavily conservative, reactionary and repressive branch of the government, which seemingly answers to no one and can invalidate any precedent and anything put in place by the other branches, maybe there will be a tendency to lean toward voting Democratic in order to help balance the power. Maybe?

epistantophus, Wednesday, 17 May 2023 00:05 (eleven months ago) link

The important thing to remember is that SCOTUS as Liberal Protector of Constitutional Rights didn't begin until the Warren Court and not even until the brief period between 1962-1969. Besides glimmers between 1937-1939, the Court has been a business-friendly racist shit show.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 00:11 (eleven months ago) link

OTM, except that you can probably date that period from 1954, when Brown was decided.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 00:17 (eleven months ago) link

Ouch, this pains me a bit:

Then came the most notable part of the conversation: Newell recounted that when the other reporter asked Feinstein how her return to Washington had been received among her Capitol colleagues, she seemed to deny being gone.

"No, I haven’t been gone," she reportedly said, before adding: "You should follow the — I haven’t been gone, I’ve been working."

Newell said Feinstein "turned feisty" when she was asked to clarify whether she meant that she had been working from home. Her office had maintained that she was receiving updates about Senate business while she was recuperating in San Francisco.

“No, I’ve been here. I’ve been voting,” she reportedly said. “Please, you either know or don’t know.”

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 17 May 2023 00:19 (eleven months ago) link

Is she lying or actually dementia-affected?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 00:47 (eleven months ago) link

It’s dementia

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 00:56 (eleven months ago) link

xxp I'm sorry but I don't think there is much good news about Florida.

DeSantis continues his fascist march, signing a bill allowing doctors to refuse treating LGBT patients on 'ethical grounds'!!, banning mask and vaccine mandates, signing another bill to harass Disney about its monorail system, signing a ban on tracking gun purchases in the state, weaponizing the State Department of Education against a 5th grade teacher for showing a Disney movie during a recess period for her students (her name is Jenna Barbee and you should watch her tiktok video in response to it, it is beautiful and very moving), barring the state’s colleges and universities from spending money on diversity, equity and inclusion programs and limiting how race can be discussed, getting his New College henchmen like Chris Rufo to invite Scott-Fucking-Atlas as the graduation speaker, imposing new penalties and restrictions on undocumented immigrants in Florida, defending the NY vigilante, sending troops to the Texas border, and transferring millions from a state campaign fund to a federal super PAC and masking his travel plans in an effort to hide his upcoming presidential campaign expenditures from Florida taxpayers

Sorry for the rant, but this stuff is astonishingly heinous

Dan S, Wednesday, 17 May 2023 00:59 (eleven months ago) link

here is Jenna Barbee's statement

https://www.tiktok.com/@becomingabetterbarbee/video/7232767113914617131

Dan S, Wednesday, 17 May 2023 01:12 (eleven months ago) link

For folks who don't know Jacksonville, the city and county are the same government. Wrong to think this is another "big" Dem city. It has outlying rural areas and a significant number of military retirees. It's a slightly red-leaning bellweather for the state. Why this is a bfd

— Michael McDonald (@ElectProject) May 17, 2023

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 May 2023 01:12 (eleven months ago) link

Good evening!

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 01:12 (eleven months ago) link

Completely agree with you about the cruelty Dan S. Heinous shit indeed, and it is happening in a place where there are loads of good people (including many of my favorite people) trying to intervene on the side of compassion and justice but perniciously getting blocked by bullshit political structures.

There is also a generous dash of absurdity. Monorail? Really? Are we seriously arguing about monorail? Did we learn nothing from the Simpsons?

gelatinous cubist (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 01:15 (eleven months ago) link

More bad news for FL dum dum

Stellar night for DeSantis https://t.co/2GR2GD6S4q

— Michael McDonald (@ElectProject) May 17, 2023

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 May 2023 01:17 (eleven months ago) link

Loathe as I am to predict the future, but I said in November that DeSantis' formidable victory looked like an outlier. I'm sure Florida will still go red in '24 but neither is it as deep red as it looked in 2022.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 01:18 (eleven months ago) link

Lord Alfred, I write to you in the spirit of empathy, from an allegedly purple state where our totally horrid governor might actually have shot himself in the taint by continually reminding people that for him, everything has to be a piece of ongoing culture-war bullshit.

My one fervent hope remains as follows: drumming up paranoia in service of an imagined war on "wokeness" will get stale as normal humans realize that maybe it's okay to just be nice to people

gelatinous cubist (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 01:41 (eleven months ago) link

So long as my Muriel spark novels, Campari and gin, and ILX exist I'm immune to despair.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 01:45 (eleven months ago) link

(Hoisting an imaginary Negroni in your general direction)

gelatinous cubist (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 02:04 (eleven months ago) link

Possible apostle here, fear my family will object xp

Laurie Anderson’s Singing Bowl Migraine Orchestra (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 02:10 (eleven months ago) link

For a non-Floridian, it's almost a relief that DeSantis has tacked so hard reactionary... had he stuck to some kind of benevolent/pragmatic populism, he might be actually have risen up a bit nationwide, but now he's almost a crank Lydon LaRouche character; not sure who his advisors are but they have their heads up their asses

That said, reading over that litany that Dan S. just posted, I feel deep sympathy for all the innocent collateral damage in his mindless 'war on monorails woke'

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 17 May 2023 03:13 (eleven months ago) link

The important thing to remember is that SCOTUS as Liberal Protector of Constitutional Rights didn't begin until the Warren Court and not even until the brief period between 1962-1969.

Very much so! There’s a great book on this called Cold War Civil Rights that goes into how the Warren Court rulings were deliberately part of the propaganda effort to court favor amongst the rapidly de-colonizing Global South nations.

Here it is: Cold War Civil Rights: Race and the Image of American Democracy by Mary L. Dudziak

https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691152431/cold-war-civil-rights

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 03:41 (eleven months ago) link

Progressive angst about the debt talks is growing:

Sen. Warren described herself as “very concerned” about the direction of the talks, including mentions of a long-term cap on spending and additional work requirements.@adamcancryn, @JonLemire and I https://t.co/nRXAw2c0Lv

— Jennifer Haberkorn (@jenhab) May 16, 2023

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 17 May 2023 05:05 (eleven months ago) link

In 10 years, we'll have welfare recipients forced into the fields as a replacement for migrant workers. I've been expecting that for some time, and I'm sure of that now.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Wednesday, 17 May 2023 05:20 (eleven months ago) link

Thanks, kingfish. Looks like the uni library's got it.

More and more it looks like we must thank the Cold War for every intellectual, judicial, and political advancement.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 09:27 (eleven months ago) link

The corrupt former city councilwoman who wants more cops, “constitutional” stop and frisk, and implicitly wants to ruin Philly’s Chinatown by allowing the 76ers to build an enormous stadium in the heart of the city won her primary last night, basically setting the scene for her winning the election because she will be the only Dem running.

Frankly, another disaster for Philadelphia that will be given a soft touch by media here and elsewhere , but I digress.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 12:05 (eleven months ago) link

This is a professional question as much as a personal one: People who live in the Southern US or just read about it, where do you go for progressive perspectives on the South? In terms of news, I mean.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 12:05 (eleven months ago) link

The Chinatown thing is absolutely infuriating tho— the racial politics of it are ugly, with many Black politicians in favor because the stadium will add (low-paying, not full time, seasonal) service jobs, ignoring the fact that they’ll be actively destroying a vibrant neighborhood some suburban motherfuckers can watch a basketball game in a slightly more convenient location. Fuck.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 12:08 (eleven months ago) link

I used to spend so much time in Philly's Chinatown. Many a string of little firecrackers were purchased there, and it was right by the Troc, iirc.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 May 2023 12:18 (eleven months ago) link

The corrupt former city councilwoman who wants more cops, “constitutional” stop and frisk, and implicitly wants to ruin Philly’s Chinatown by allowing the 76ers to build an enormous stadium in the heart of the city won her primary last night, basically setting the scene for her winning the election because she will be the only Dem running.

She won a huge majority of the black vote.

The racial breakdown in tonight's results is... pretty stark.

Majority-Black (and majority-Latino) precincts pretty united; whiter precincts really splitting their vote. pic.twitter.com/x7IXA0oDdr

— Aseem Shukla (@ashukla89) May 17, 2023

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 14:25 (eleven months ago) link

I don’t care whether she won a huge majority of the Black vote, her policies are regressive and won’t keep Black communities safer, and her implicit endorsement of the destruction of another minority community is abhorrent.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 14:55 (eleven months ago) link

Like forgive me for saying that anyone who endorses stop and frisk laws shouldn’t be taken seriously

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 14:56 (eleven months ago) link

As with Eric Adams, it's interesting to see how racial politics aren't at all the same as "progressive" politics — something I think people on both the left and right in this country misunderstand a lot.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 14:57 (eleven months ago) link

otm

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 14:58 (eleven months ago) link

Strange that you think me pointing that out is an attack on you tabe

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 15:01 (eleven months ago) link

But I forgive you

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 15:02 (eleven months ago) link

My apologies, Keyes— it’s just the rhetoric around her nomination and presumed mayoral tenure is already really ugly here, with a lot of racialised language being thrown around needlessly.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 15:05 (eleven months ago) link

yeah tipsy otm

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 15:08 (eleven months ago) link

yeah, I really didn't know much about her--just that she's not the candidate Bernie and AOC came to Philly to support

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 15:09 (eleven months ago) link

That poll of voter breakdown gave me deja vu on how the votes on reforming the Minneapolis Police Dept. went in the aftermath of George Floyd, with much of the anti-"defund the police" energy being laser-focused on majority Black neighborhoods, with Don Samuels serving as the primary messenger of said message

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 15:13 (eleven months ago) link

Having worked in a cit govt I can tell you that older (voting) constituencies in majority Black neighborhoods tend to want more cops rather than fewer. You can argue that they shouldn't want that for any number of reasons, but it's still true. Now they are also skeptical of cops in general and will support things like civilian review etc to hold them accountable. But they don't perceive that fewer police will be better for them.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 19:10 (eleven months ago) link

CITY govt that should say.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 19:10 (eleven months ago) link

Oh I know this, it remains disappointing.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 19:16 (eleven months ago) link

Skeptical of cops, but far more fearful of neighbor youths, seems to be the general rule of thumb

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 19:20 (eleven months ago) link

As with Eric Adams, it's interesting to see how racial politics aren't at all the same as "progressive" politics — something I think people on both the left and right in this country misunderstand a lot

Likewise, there’s a reason a lot of Dem establishment figures want the first presidential primary to be held in South Carolina, but not, say, Michigan or Illinois.

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 20:20 (eleven months ago) link

Yet another 1st Amendment lawsuit in Florida. This is the district where the School Board is basically letting one super right-wing English teacher bombard them with banned book requests and has upheld every one that they have heard so far.

https://pen.org/press-release/pen-america-files-lawsuit-against-florida-school-district-over-unconstitutional-book-bans/

Anyone ever read any books by historian/politics writer Kevin Kruse? any good?

Heez, Thursday, 18 May 2023 15:10 (eleven months ago) link

No but I like him on Twitter.

just bought White Flight

Heez, Thursday, 18 May 2023 15:18 (eleven months ago) link

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/17/politics/rachael-rollins-doj-report-leak

Rollins, according to the IG report, secretly spoke to reporters about interim Suffolk County District Attorney Kevin Hayden – Rollins’ successor from her previous job. At the time, Hayden was campaigning in the Democratic primary to earn the position permanently. Rollins supported Hayden’s opponent in the race, Ricardo Arroyo.

Rollins, during her tenure as the US attorney, “provided information to (The Boston) Globe, before it published three articles … critical of Hayden’s handling of a police misconduct case that began under Rollins’s tenure as DA and the understaffing of a special unit in the Suffolk DA’s office responsible for handling police misconduct cases,” the report says.

In text messages cited in the report, Rollins told a Globe reporter that her office “does not know we have been speaking,” and told the reporter that they could use the information she provided “if you can say sources close to the Rollins Administration.”

The report offers a damning picture of how Rollins handled her appearance at a Democratic fundraiser in July 2022 that featured the first lady. It says Rollins was “driven in a government vehicle by a subordinate employee” of her office to a private home in Andover, Massachusetts, where the event was taking place.

After media reports raised questions about the appearance, Rollins suggested on Twitter that she had “approval” to be there, according to the report, which said she in fact did not receive the necessary approval to attend the event.

“(H)er attendance was contrary to the ethics advice she received before the event that gave permission for Rollins to meet and greet with Dr. Biden separately from the fundraiser but did not include approval from the Office of the Deputy Attorney General (ODAG) to attend the fundraiser itself,” the report says.

This is just artless and dumb

Marvel Puzzle Quest is my favorite gasm (DJP), Thursday, 18 May 2023 15:28 (eleven months ago) link

“I got a trailblazing appointment and all eyes are on me, I’m going to respond by absolutely shitting the bed in the dumbest, most public way possible. #yolo”

Marvel Puzzle Quest is my favorite gasm (DJP), Thursday, 18 May 2023 15:29 (eleven months ago) link

xp re Kruse: I read Fault Lines, a political history of the U.S. since Watergate, which he wrote with Julian Zelizer. IIRC, they wrote it in part to be read in a class at Princeton that they taught together. It's very readable and useful as a broad overview, but also kind of textbook-y, as you might expect. Would be interested in checking out some of his more focused work.

jaymc, Thursday, 18 May 2023 15:30 (eleven months ago) link

This is painful... except for:
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, another New York progressive, told Bowman: “She ain’t worth it, bro.”

If Twitter isn’t real life then explain this pic.twitter.com/9IoEEsTmfc

— Keith Edwards (@keithedwards) May 17, 2023

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 18 May 2023 17:40 (eleven months ago) link

With brilliant leadership like this, Ron's a shoo-in for the Republican nomination!

Disney Pulls Plug on https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/18/business/disney-ron-desantis-florida.html Billion Development in Florida

A new office complex, and relocation of a division from California, would have created more than 2,000 jobs but was scuttled as the company and Gov. Ron DeSantis continue to feud.

In March, Disney called Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida “anti-business” for his scorched-earth attempt to tighten oversight of the company’s theme park resort near Orlando. Last month, when Disney sued the governor and his allies for what it called “a targeted campaign of government retaliation,” the company made clear that $17 billion in planned investment in Walt Disney World was on the line.

“Does the state want us to invest more, employ more people, and pay more taxes, or not?” Robert A. Iger, Disney’s chief executive, said on an earnings-related conference call with analysts last week.

On Thursday, Mr. Iger and Josh D’Amaro, Disney’s theme park and consumer products chairman, showed that they were not bluffing, pulling the plug on a nearly $1 billion office complex that was scheduled for construction in Orlando. It would have brought more than 2,000 jobs to the region, with $120,000 as the average salary, according to an estimate from the Florida Department of Economic Opportunity.

The project, known as the Lake Nona Town Center, was supposed to involve the relocation of more than 1,000 employees from Southern California, including most of a department known as Imagineering, which works with Disney’s movie studios to develop theme park attractions. Most of the affected employees complained bitterly about having to move — some quit — but Disney largely held firm, partly because of a Florida tax credit that would have allowed the company to recoup as much as $570 million over 20 years for building and occupying the complex.

When he announced the project in 2021, Mr. D’Amaro cited “Florida’s business-friendly climate” as justification.

Mr. D’Amaro’s tone in an email to employees on Thursday was notably different. He cited “changing business conditions” as a reason for canceling the Lake Nona project. “I remain optimistic about the direction of our Walt Disney World business,” Mr. D’Amaro said in the memo. He noted that $17 billion was still earmarked for construction at Disney World over the next decade — growth that would create an estimated 13,000 jobs. “I hope we’re able to,” he said.

But the company’s battle with Mr. DeSantis and his allies in the Florida Legislature figured prominently into Disney’s decision to cancel the Lake Nona project, according to two people briefed on the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private deliberations. A spokeswoman for Mr. Iger said he was not available for an interview.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 18 May 2023 19:36 (eleven months ago) link

politicians come and go.. and Mickey Mouse has outlasted them all

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 18 May 2023 19:46 (eleven months ago) link

yeah ever since he lead that violent insurrection in 1970 he's been the face of this state

the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 May 2023 19:47 (eleven months ago) link

“I got a trailblazing appointment and all eyes are on me, I’m going to respond by absolutely shitting the bed in the dumbest, most public way possible. #yolo”

― Marvel Puzzle Quest is my favorite gasm (DJP), Thursday, May 18, 2023 8:29 AM bookmarkflaglink

This is super disappointing. Gutted.

felicity, Thursday, 18 May 2023 22:30 (eleven months ago) link

Despite her comments to CNN earlier in the day that she just had "really bad flu," a Feinstein spokesperson says that she had encephalitis and continues to suffer from Ramsay Hunt syndrome

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) May 18, 2023

curmudgeon, Thursday, 18 May 2023 23:40 (eleven months ago) link

Some syndromes are good, right?

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 18 May 2023 23:42 (eleven months ago) link

The encephalitis will make her a more razor-sharp senator.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 May 2023 23:50 (eleven months ago) link

For her own good the Senate needs to gently and kindly vote to remove her from office.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 18 May 2023 23:52 (eleven months ago) link

Yes, her own good is clearly paramount in the mind of her colleagues, along with that of the country

least said, sergio mendes (sic), Thursday, 18 May 2023 23:59 (eleven months ago) link

I kinda wondered if the admitted shingles diagnosis was perhaps one of many symptoms going on there

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 19 May 2023 00:03 (eleven months ago) link

so over living in a gerontocracy

broken breakbeat (sleeve), Friday, 19 May 2023 00:10 (eleven months ago) link

Encephalitis can be a complication of shingles. It sounds awful.

I think the dilemma right now is that she is the tipping vote on the judiciary committee, and the democrats really need her to vote to confirm new federal judges. McConnell has vowed to block any new Democratic appointment to the committee if she resigns, which means no more democratic-appointed judges until at least the next election, if not much later (given the 2024 Senate map for Democrats). I'm not sure that he can deliver on that threat, but it seems like the Democrats on the committee are taking it seriously

Dan S, Friday, 19 May 2023 00:14 (eleven months ago) link

DeSantis is gonna get JEBbed

Trump is on team Disney. pic.twitter.com/IqOG6A08tq

— Proud Elephant 🇺🇸🦅 (@ProudElephantUS) May 18, 2023

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 19 May 2023 00:15 (eleven months ago) link

with a complete GOP hegemony in Florida, he can get passed whatever he wants.. that's not politics, that requires no skill

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 19 May 2023 00:20 (eleven months ago) link

This is the unfortunate reality. At this point, Feinstein resigning would actually make things worse by stalemating the Judiciary Committee. Where the real absolutely indefensible fuck-up occurred was her decision to seek re-election https://t.co/rcxvj0WgZX

— Scott Lemieux (@LemieuxLGM) May 18, 2023

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 May 2023 00:25 (eleven months ago) link

yes that's true but remonstrating about the past will not help us now. we need to get through the next year.

we also have to get beyond the debt ceiling standoff and its apocalyptic repercussions. from the comments I've read above, it seems that some are thinking it is just another government shutdown, but it is not

Dan S, Friday, 19 May 2023 01:07 (eleven months ago) link

remonstrating about the future itt helps even less than remonstrating about the past

least said, sergio mendes (sic), Friday, 19 May 2023 01:37 (eleven months ago) link

we also have to get beyond the debt ceiling standoff and its apocalyptic repercussions. from the comments I've read above, it seems that some are thinking it is just another government shutdown, but it is not

why not?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 19 May 2023 17:09 (eleven months ago) link

It's the difference between not paying your rent and setting your apartment on fire

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 19 May 2023 17:21 (eleven months ago) link

So we really are rapidly transforming into a country with half the states strictly anti-everything (but guns and religion), aren't we? Nice to see this failed nation settle into a freshly explicit state of cultural segregation.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 19 May 2023 22:19 (eleven months ago) link

whoa, you sound 'woke' bro

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 19 May 2023 22:23 (eleven months ago) link

The self-sorting of the US population into whole towns of like-minded, economically homogenous affinity groups goes back at least as far as the Levittowns and "retirement communities". Probably been happening much longer, if I did some genuine research on it. It's just we're much further along that road now than, let's say, in the year 2000 so that the sorting is being applied a the level of entire states, not just middle-sized towns.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 19 May 2023 22:39 (eleven months ago) link

We're back to antebellum and post-Civil War times! Yay!

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 May 2023 22:56 (eleven months ago) link

The head of an intelligence unit of Washington's police department faces criminal charges after allegedly warning the leader of the far-right Proud Boys extremist group about an arrest warrant and leaking other law enforcement information, an indictment released on Friday showed.

Metropolitan Police Department Lieutenant Shane Lamond gave Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio confidential information about an investigation into the 2020 burning of a "Black Lives Matter" banner stolen from a church in the U.S. capital and later told him that he faced arrest in the matter, the U.S. Justice Department said.

Lamond, who supervised the Intelligence Branch of the police department's Homeland Security Bureau, also made false and misleading statements to federal law enforcement agents about his communications with Tarrio, the Justice Department said.

A federal grand jury indicted Lamond, who was arrested on Friday, on one count of obstruction of justice and three counts of making false statements. He faces a maximum of 30 years in prison.

(xp)

broken breakbeat (sleeve), Friday, 19 May 2023 22:57 (eleven months ago) link

Lamond’s life is about to change in some non-insignificant ways.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 19 May 2023 23:19 (eleven months ago) link

Maybe the worse retail politician ever. Just brutal to watch pic.twitter.com/uNOMRWkuJh

— Keith Edwards (@keithedwards) May 21, 2023

"Okay"

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 22 May 2023 15:06 (eleven months ago) link

LOL he really said "okay."

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 May 2023 15:09 (eleven months ago) link

people who want to be politicians really are freaks

i wonder if any of them has ever tried the move where you preemptively say "i'm not going to remember all of your names, haha!" and then stare blankly as everyone in a circle introduces themselves, and then one of the people in the circle says "it's easy for us to remember your name, you're the only new one here!" while the new politician meekly jokes that perhaps everyone could wear a name tag

z_tbd, Monday, 22 May 2023 15:11 (eleven months ago) link

LOOK OUT DONALD TRUMP, THE UNSTOPPABLE MOMENTUM OF TIM SCOTT IS GONNA GET YOU!!

Breaking News: Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina announced a 2024 campaign, adding to a list of Republicans challenging Donald Trump. https://t.co/GJggejaVcI pic.twitter.com/m5yWohL6KA

— The New York Times (@nytimes) May 22, 2023

z_tbd, Monday, 22 May 2023 15:12 (eleven months ago) link

i guess scott is campaigning for vp or a cabinet position. iirc he hasn't been able to say anything he dislikes about donald trump or his policies, when asked

z_tbd, Monday, 22 May 2023 15:13 (eleven months ago) link

also I don't think Trump has dissed him yet

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 22 May 2023 15:16 (eleven months ago) link

yikes pic.twitter.com/qQI39DBN3t

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) May 22, 2023

z_tbd, Monday, 22 May 2023 15:34 (eleven months ago) link

OK Soda was tasty I miss it

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Monday, 22 May 2023 15:34 (eleven months ago) link

That DeSantis video omg. I can finally see it: Ron DeSantis is Kendall Roy.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 22 May 2023 15:37 (eleven months ago) link

He does seem like someone who has started medication for social anxiety and walks into room full of people thinking, "I've totally got this" and then he starts to feel gravity pushing him back down

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 22 May 2023 15:44 (eleven months ago) link

^^^ otm

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 May 2023 15:44 (eleven months ago) link

haha, i am actually kind of astonished that fox and ingraham issued a retraction for their racist story, but also, i figured this tweeters text description was a paraphrasing of ingraham's words, but no, it's verbatim

Ingraham: A little update on a story we brought you this week about homeless vets being displaced from hotels so illegals can move in, turns out the group behind the claim made it up. We have no clue why anyone would do such a thing pic.twitter.com/BEZ4c2buMx

— Acyn (@Acyn) May 20, 2023

z_tbd, Monday, 22 May 2023 15:48 (eleven months ago) link

Def getting smarmy Jason Bateman vibes from that DeSantis clip. Also stealing the "OK" response to the guy introducing himself.

henry s, Monday, 22 May 2023 15:52 (eleven months ago) link

Reports based on various tweets by left wing activists are wildly inaccurate — Laura Ingraham, the top-rated woman in cable news, is now and will continue to be a prominent host and integral part of the Fox News lineup.

Notice that they don't deny Ingraham is leaving primetime.

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 22 May 2023 15:54 (eleven months ago) link

tom carper is not running for reelection next year

z_tbd, Monday, 22 May 2023 16:08 (eleven months ago) link

Delaware will find another credit card-carrying Democrat.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 May 2023 16:10 (eleven months ago) link

We have no clue why anyone would do such a thing

o rly?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 22 May 2023 18:11 (eleven months ago) link

Feel the TimMentum

she works hard for the monkey (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 22 May 2023 20:58 (eleven months ago) link

first reply lmao

Why does he sound like this pic.twitter.com/0xwFT6BSN4

— Keith Edwards (@keithedwards) May 21, 2023

frogbs, Monday, 22 May 2023 21:02 (eleven months ago) link

that DeSantis clip… whew. If he wasn’t such a fascist I’d feel some sense of pity.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Monday, 22 May 2023 22:38 (eleven months ago) link

With no votes to spare, Minnesota Democrats have implemented vast new social programs, enacted protections for groups threatened by far-right states and the Supreme Court, strengthened unions, poured money into schools, replaced infrastructure, and fed every Minnesota child.

— Will Stancil (@whstancil) May 23, 2023

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 15:27 (eleven months ago) link

meanwhile, here in Texas things seems to be going in the opposite direction

Texas GOP legislature voted last night to give Republican secretary of state power to take over elections in state’s largest blue county, Houston’s Harris County, & abolish election administrator position there. This is incredibly undemocratic power grab https://t.co/dgZAsQeBhx

— Ari Berman (@AriBerman) May 23, 2023

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 15:32 (eleven months ago) link

^^^Is that a novelty gavel, just a trick of perspective, or is he really tiny?

re: My earlier question of why New York Democrats suck, I read (I think on Twitter) the hypothesis that purple state Democrats, or at least Dems with only a small majority, feel pressure to deliver on their campaign promises while they are in power, while states where Dems seem to have a permanent lock like NY (or, I would argue, my former state of Maryland) the elected Dems only care about jockeying for personal power/seniority within the party apparatus, and actually *doing things* is not a priority since they'll get elected anyway. There's also the fact that if you are in a city or state where only people with a "D" next to their name win, that willattract people to run for office who in any other state/city would run as Republicans (Eric freaking Adams).

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 15:36 (eleven months ago) link

^^^Is that a novelty gavel, just a trick of perspective, or is he really tiny?

I mean have you seen the size of american flags flying over car dealerships in texas...?

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 15:37 (eleven months ago) link

new york dems with minnesota dems
a supermajority with a 1 vote majority https://t.co/uJ9PTAse5y pic.twitter.com/sm7amwNw6D

— pudding person (@JUNlPER) May 22, 2023

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 15:44 (eleven months ago) link

IL has a supermajority and doesn't seem to be spinning its wheels, afaict.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 16:21 (eleven months ago) link

fucking. hell.

Boebert: I actually have a fun little story, my staff is probably going to talk to me about this later. I left a prescription at a pharmacy once… pic.twitter.com/6p1g25cpYk

— Acyn (@Acyn) May 23, 2023

serving aunt (stevie), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 17:21 (eleven months ago) link

What the fuck hahaha

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 17:25 (eleven months ago) link

Well it was a fun story

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 17:28 (eleven months ago) link

I'll bet Kaydon feels really special now.

nickn, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 17:54 (eleven months ago) link

Have none of these people ever heard of condoms

Marvel Puzzle Quest is my favorite gasm (DJP), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 18:25 (eleven months ago) link

nah, they cover your tattoos

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 18:26 (eleven months ago) link

rofl

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 18:48 (eleven months ago) link

Actual Ron Desantis merchandise. His campaign is gonna flame out so fucking hard he should be sued for electoral fraud pic.twitter.com/QGb8p3vxgt

— Max Propayne III (@Jags24Asare) May 23, 2023

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 20:03 (eleven months ago) link

Has there ever been a time in history when "Make America Florida" would have been an appealing slogan? Does Florida know what most of the country thinks of it?

3 stars

z_tbd, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 20:10 (eleven months ago) link

Make America Lorida?

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 20:12 (eleven months ago) link

Gunlordia

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 20:17 (eleven months ago) link

"We'll drag you down with us!"

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 20:21 (eleven months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/32c4TBG.jpg

z_tbd, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 20:21 (eleven months ago) link

That's being generous

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 20:26 (eleven months ago) link

arguably 1 1/2 stars

lol xpost

z_tbd, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 20:26 (eleven months ago) link

Amazing

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 20:45 (eleven months ago) link

I'm pretty sure we do, tipsy.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 20:47 (eleven months ago) link

7lorida

mh, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 20:53 (eleven months ago) link

this campaign is off to a smashing beginning, now he needs to come up with a cruel nickname for trump and we're off to the races

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 20:55 (eleven months ago) link

There is a Lorida, Florida:
https://floridahistoryblog.com/lorida-florida-origins-of-a-cracker-town/

jaymc, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 21:13 (eleven months ago) link

Remove the right testicle and they’d have a winner

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 21:27 (eleven months ago) link

meanwhile in that other great state

BREAKING: Texas AG Ken Paxton calls on the TX Speaker Dade Phelan to resign after he presided over the House while highly intoxicated. pic.twitter.com/1jFoyi0JEx

— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) May 23, 2023

i thought the F in florida in that was a gun at first, not the state outline

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 22:32 (eleven months ago) link

xp looks like he had a texas-sized vodka tonic to go with that texas-sized gavel

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 22:33 (eleven months ago) link

not the point, but re: that texas ag, i don't think spies usually try to control land

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 22:34 (eleven months ago) link

it’s drummed up cold war racism, obv.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 22:52 (eleven months ago) link

Holy shit the Musk/DeSantis thing is being moderated by David Sacks?

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 22:54 (eleven months ago) link

I don't even know what Chinese spies controlling Texas land refers to, that's some conspiracy you don't know about unless you hit the right rallies I guess. Chinese energy firms buying up land in West Texas probably.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 22:57 (eleven months ago) link

xp Yeah Florida just passed laws against Chinese citizens owning property there (ACLU has filed suit)... TX doesn't want to be left behind in the Ugly American competition

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 22:59 (eleven months ago) link

right, but spies? if they're spies they're not very good spies. the attorney general knows about them and is mentioning them in press releases.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 23:04 (eleven months ago) link

There has been some reports of Chinese gov't police stations quietly opening around the country (mostly to harass Chinese citizens living in the US), but I don't know if that's what he's referring to

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 23:16 (eleven months ago) link

It’s all the kids with TikTok on their phones

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 23:57 (eleven months ago) link

right, but spies? if they're spies they're not very good spies. the attorney general knows about them and is mentioning them in press releases.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, May 23, 2023 4:04 PM

They're buying up land to "build energy making facilities" but really they will have spying stations there. [Eddie Murphy head tap GIF]

nickn, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 00:10 (eleven months ago) link

Kayode Ewumi head tap GIF

least said, sergio mendes (sic), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 00:50 (eleven months ago) link

OK, I am shockingly old ...

nickn, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 00:58 (eleven months ago) link

I read (is that still legal?) that something like just 11 individual parents have been responsible for the majority of books being flagged/pulled/banned.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 11:57 (eleven months ago) link

All's it takes in Florida is one complaint; and, yes, it's a First Amendment violation.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 11:58 (eleven months ago) link

I was at a school board meeting last night where a woman read quotes from Frederick Douglas on free speech, and claimed that her free speech was being infringed because the board had not acted on her emails demanding that a book about a trans girl be banned from the schools.

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 12:06 (eleven months ago) link

lol

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 12:20 (eleven months ago) link

Nikki Haley in New Hampshire this morning:

"Everybody know about Dylan Mulvaney? Bud Light? That is a guy, dressed as a girl, making fun of women."

She's at Politics and Eggs, not a red meat crowd; no applause for a line that gets some elsewhere.

— David Weigel (@daveweigel) May 24, 2023

These dumbasses, the cynicism and stupidity are so intertwined I can't tell if they're honestly stupid, dishonestly playing stupid, stupidly being cynical, just cynical, etc.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 13:46 (eleven months ago) link

“Everybody knows”

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 15:02 (eleven months ago) link

More from Gaetz, who rejects any debt limit compromise with the White House: “I think my conservative colleagues for the most part support Limit, Save, Grow, & they don't feel like we should negotiate with our hostage.”

Default would almost certainly throw US into recession

— Joseph Zeballos-Roig (@josephzeballos) May 23, 2023

gaetz forgot you're not supposed to call it a "hostage" out loud

z_tbd, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 15:10 (eleven months ago) link

Good morning!

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 15:18 (eleven months ago) link

Re: the Gorman complaint, can it be disallowed on the basis of the complainant saying her poem was by Oprah?

steely flan (suzy), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 15:22 (eleven months ago) link

Look we all know she meant "Black lady I saw on TV," it's not like there's that many of them.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 15:41 (eleven months ago) link

These GOP clowns, demanding all sorts of cuts yet refusing to get rid of tax loopholes and, predictably, demanding more money for the military and law enforcement. They never operate in good faith, but the current iteration really sets the standard for shamelessness.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 15:56 (eleven months ago) link

not sure where to post this, but some Federalist Society lawyer is trying to move in next door to me. i want to die. he clerked for Scalia

Heez, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 15:59 (eleven months ago) link

iirc the best strategy is to tackle them at the earliest opportunity.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 16:02 (eleven months ago) link

i wonder if somehow mccarthy will lose his speakership over this. due to the hostage situation internal negotiations with the freedom caucus in january, only one Under the new House rules passed Monday, a single republican can bring a motion to vacate" his office.

perhaps not during the current hostage situation with the debt ceiling, but after the fallout

z_tbd, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 16:03 (eleven months ago) link

The house GOP seems happy to own this, and Biden should just let them. I feel like the lesson from doing this idiocy over and over is that it always blows up in the Republicans’ faces, so they should just let that happen. Even if it means going to default.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 16:22 (eleven months ago) link

whoops, weird copy and paste typo in my last post

z_tbd, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 16:25 (eleven months ago) link

i have no idea if she knows something, but this gives me some hope

Why would anyone act like Kevin McCarthy has votes right now?

He hasn’t done the work. He doesn’t have the votes for his current proposal in the Senate. He doesn’t have the votes in the House. He doesn’t even have the votes in *his own party.*

& GOP are starting to feel that

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) May 24, 2023

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 16:31 (eleven months ago) link

It's funny, I have heard McCarthy boast of the 15 or whatever votes it took for him to land the speaker gig, like it was a show of tenacity or something. But people like AOC, they see it more like it, probably really is, a guy scrambling for votes without knowing the outcome, which is a pretty undisciplined thing in Washington.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 18:12 (eleven months ago) link

Noticed one repeated line in McCarthy’s press conference pic.twitter.com/lEY2wLst8e

— Acyn (@Acyn) May 24, 2023

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 18:20 (eleven months ago) link

“The off-ramp here is to solve the problem, to spend less than we spent last year," McCarthy told reporters Wednesday. "That’s not that difficult. They still want to spend more. You cannot do that. No household will do that.”

great gop political message - your household is not going to have any money. and we'll make sure the government won't help you either. and also some households are going to go ahead and spend more money, like our own households

z_tbd, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 18:50 (eleven months ago) link

if my roof is leaking I will spend the money to fix my roof before my possessions are ruined and I have nothing of value

that's the thing these bozos always miss in a metaphor, they assume the value given by government is neutral and not essential to stabilizing the rest of the system. or they resent that it's the case and would rather things crumble

mh, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 19:26 (eleven months ago) link

Also the rather foolish notion that dispensing money is the same thing as setting money on fire. In fact, when you spend money you actually put it into circulation so that other people can use it.

I regularly hand money to people other than myself. Then they do the same thing with it! Magical.

Landfill Collins (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 19:36 (eleven months ago) link

Yes, but if we give it to the gubmint, the gubmint will give it to someone undeserving.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 20:31 (eleven months ago) link

...which is, paradoxically, probably better for the economy!

Poor people spend their money almost immediately. They have to pay rent and buy grocerie. So that money goes right back into the hands of the powerful.

You know who doesn't immediately circulate cash back into the economy? Rich people.

Landfill Collins (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 20:47 (eleven months ago) link

it's almost like that lapsed child tax credit helped get the economy to where it is now

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 20:52 (eleven months ago) link

Worth watching.

Wow Democrats just laughed at Marjorie Taylor Greene when she asked them to abide by decorum of the House pic.twitter.com/2jrLFyAEWg

— Acyn (@Acyn) May 24, 2023

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 22:03 (eleven months ago) link

lol

This link works: https://t.co/9PzIJkseYI

— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) May 24, 2023

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 22:20 (eleven months ago) link

DeSantis' links have crashed all day.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 22:20 (eleven months ago) link

of course announcing your presidential campaign on spaces was a dumb idea, but nothing will ever beat the time in 2015 when Bobby Jindal put a hidden cam in a tree to record himself telling his kids he’s running for president and they were completely underwhelmed pic.twitter.com/e3OdFJMkgB

— keyvan (@still_oppressed) May 25, 2023

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 25 May 2023 15:01 (eleven months ago) link

really wish people would stop pretending that trump's fake twitter spaces thing was actually funny. every joke is right in the screen shot, no extra jokes added.

ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Thursday, 25 May 2023 15:02 (eleven months ago) link

From that Jindal stunt to the commercial DeSantis filmed of his reading Trump's books to his kids in 2018, these GOP people are sociopaths.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 May 2023 15:08 (eleven months ago) link

I'm not sure I've ever seen the occupant of the Chair openly mocked like this before. pic.twitter.com/QJweFzzKLS

— Jamie Dupree (@jamiedupree) May 25, 2023

z_tbd, Thursday, 25 May 2023 15:10 (eleven months ago) link

really wish people would stop pretending that trump's fake twitter spaces thing was actually funny

serving aunt (stevie), Thursday, 25 May 2023 15:16 (eleven months ago) link

We also want to lay down a marker once again and tell you that the anger in the House Dem Caucus right now is palpable. Many rank-and-file Democrats feel as if they’re going to be asked to vote for a package that is slanted toward GOP demands with little for them in return

— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) May 25, 2023

curmudgeon, Thursday, 25 May 2023 15:59 (eleven months ago) link

Stewart Rhodes sentenced to 18 years for seditious conspiracy.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 25 May 2023 17:13 (eleven months ago) link

lol the palpable anger of the House Democrats. Oooooooh they’re gonna have steam pouring out their ears when they… line up and vote like Biden needs them to vote.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 25 May 2023 17:44 (eleven months ago) link

I mean, what's the alternative? Let their Republican "colleagues" drive the economy off the cliff?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 25 May 2023 17:46 (eleven months ago) link

Sure, say that instead of blowing smoke about how mad they are about cutting social spending now and how hard Biden’s going to have to work to get their votes.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 25 May 2023 17:51 (eleven months ago) link

I mean, what's the alternative? Let their Republican "colleagues" drive the economy off the cliff?

This is absolutely 100% what the Dems should do.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 25 May 2023 18:09 (eleven months ago) link

Biden could just cite the 14th Amendment as requiring debts to be paid and then Republicans would have to challenge that in court.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 25 May 2023 18:10 (eleven months ago) link

McCarthy is out talking to press constantly. White House doesn’t have anyone doing that , just answering questions at press briefings . This is not helping to establish a narrative about what is happening nor is it helping the Dem congress members who Biden expects to vote for his secretly created giving in to extortion deal if it happens

curmudgeon, Thursday, 25 May 2023 18:14 (eleven months ago) link

Yeah, idgi.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 May 2023 18:20 (eleven months ago) link

This is absolutely 100% what the Dems should do.

I can't tell whether you're serious.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 25 May 2023 18:21 (eleven months ago) link

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/05/24/debt-ceiling-negotiations-house-democrats/

House Democratic lawmakers are voicing frustration over President Biden’s approach to negotiating a debt ceiling deal with Republicans, worrying that their priorities are not being championed aggressively enough and that Biden hasn’t more forcefully pushed back publicly against Republican demands.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 May 2023 18:23 (eleven months ago) link

This is absolutely 100% what the Dems should do.

If the end result of negotiations is a package of cuts and freezes that are disastrous for households under the median income, then they may as well let the Republicans inflict that disaster unaided. A fig leaf of a few mostly symbolic cuts would be acceptable.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 25 May 2023 18:31 (eleven months ago) link

Sure seems like that since Klain left as Chief of Staff, Biden's new chief of staff Zientz has been instead pushing the narrative to be bipartisan and give in to Republican demands and to go right-centrist and not aggressively push for Dem values.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 25 May 2023 18:51 (eleven months ago) link

Just got another 'This Link Works' email from Uncle Joe

"Hey, did I tell you the one about..."
"Yes, yes, you did.. that's a good one, haha."

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 May 2023 19:01 (eleven months ago) link

This is absolutely 100% what the Dems should do.
I can't tell whether you're serious.

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, May 25, 2023 2:21 PM (forty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I am 100% serious. Why give the Republicans a fig leaf? Let the Republicans take sole responsibility if they want to take people's benefits so bad that they are willing to tank the economy to do it.

Until 2011, the debt ceiling and the budget were completely and totally unrelated issues - the former completely ministerial.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 25 May 2023 19:12 (eleven months ago) link

The human toll of a default would likely dwarf that of the Republican cuts, even if they got them in full.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 25 May 2023 19:13 (eleven months ago) link

Let the Republicans take sole responsibility if they want to take people's benefits so bad that they are willing to tank the economy to do it.

The problem here is that the president is a Democrat and vast swaths of the voting public blame the president for everything that goes wrong, allowing the House nihilists to avoid most of the fallout.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 25 May 2023 19:19 (eleven months ago) link

The problem here is that the president is a Democrat and vast swaths of the voting public blame the president for everything that goes wrong, allowing the House nihilists to avoid most of the fallout.

This has almost always been true in the past, but the midterm election results show that a portion of the public may finally be wising the fuck up.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 25 May 2023 19:37 (eleven months ago) link

using this mandatory procedure as a budgeting platform is just fucking wrong

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 May 2023 19:40 (eleven months ago) link

The human toll of a default would likely dwarf that of the Republican cuts, even if they got them in full.

I would maybe not have gone on record saying that no alternatives would even be considered aside from default or striking a bargain with the fascists.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 25 May 2023 20:05 (eleven months ago) link

busting in here briefly to let everybody know that i just thought of something

(which 1. has no bearing on current u.s. politix or thread discussion and 2. has doubtless been thought of elsewhere by others many times over, but)

anal sex got much more popular over the past 20 yrs, and i just now made the connection between that timeframe and the 2nd bush administration's promotion of abstinence education, which taught a generation of impressionable teenagers that the vagina is a gateway to death/hell/social ostracism

so, ironically, the anal sex explosion was caused by bush

ok have fun dissecting the american political hellscape byeeeeeee

(like scratching an inch) (cat), Thursday, 25 May 2023 20:05 (eleven months ago) link

Wild guess that everyone having access to 4K porn on demand had more to do with that.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 25 May 2023 20:09 (eleven months ago) link

how exactly do you know it got more popular

frogbs, Thursday, 25 May 2023 20:10 (eleven months ago) link

folks are saying, lots of people are saying so

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 May 2023 20:14 (eleven months ago) link

The surge of the popularity of the song "Backdoor Man".

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 25 May 2023 20:14 (eleven months ago) link

How do you not???

ian, Thursday, 25 May 2023 20:15 (eleven months ago) link

teach horny teens that p-in-v = babies&disease&death and they naturally gravitate toward the butt, it's logic, i have decided i am certain of this

(like scratching an inch) (cat), Thursday, 25 May 2023 20:15 (eleven months ago) link

https://bedbible.com/anal-sex-statistics/ - I dunno about those stats, I'm not sure 1 in 6 cis het men have partaken in pegging. I'm not sure 1 in 8 cis het men had heard of pegging in 2001.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 25 May 2023 20:24 (eleven months ago) link

In-Depth Research

lol

16- to 24-year-olds engaging in heterosexual anal intercourse has risen from 12.5% to 28.5% over recent decades

Search volume for anal sex videos increased by 120% from 2009 to 2015

here i picked these cherries 4 u 🍒

(like scratching an inch) (cat), Thursday, 25 May 2023 20:43 (eleven months ago) link

Analway... not sure if this good or not:

MEXICO CITY — Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador on Thursday called on Hispanic people in Florida to vote against Gov. Ron DeSantis (R), who launched his 2024 White House bid the day before, because of his immigration policies.

“Hopefully Hispanics in Florida will wake up and not give him one single vote, to not vote for those who persecute migrants, those who don’t respect migrants,” López Obrador said.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 May 2023 20:44 (eleven months ago) link

Obama was President from 2009 to 2015. Maybe Yes We Can was actually the call to arms of butt stuff.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 25 May 2023 20:51 (eleven months ago) link

"Maybe yes we can" is actually what's being said in So Not Gonna Happen

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 May 2023 20:53 (eleven months ago) link

It's a little like the new red state laws requiring you to use the restroom that matches the sex on your birth certificate. They think that they're scoring moral points by stopping trans folks from grooming or sneaking peaks or whatever evil they imagine is happening, but the reality is that they will freak out even more when people who present as the opposite sex start showing up in their restrooms as a result of those laws. By legislating what they consider morality, they'll just end up normalizing what they consider perversions.

BrianB, Thursday, 25 May 2023 20:56 (eleven months ago) link

that's a really good point I hadn't considered

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 May 2023 20:58 (eleven months ago) link

those laws seem almost unenforceable as well... you gonna ask for birth certificates?

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 May 2023 20:59 (eleven months ago) link

On an unrelated note, it occurs to me that the upcoming Trump/DeSantis GOP nomination battle will be the campiest in American history

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 May 2023 21:05 (eleven months ago) link

It's a little like the new red state laws requiring you to use the restroom that matches the sex on your birth certificate. They think that they're scoring moral points by stopping trans folks from grooming or sneaking peaks or whatever evil they imagine is happening, but the reality is that they will freak out even more when people who present as the opposite sex start showing up in their restrooms as a result of those laws. By legislating what they consider morality, they'll just end up normalizing what they consider perversions.

This will also produce very predictable, violent results as well, and ones that I'm sure these laws' authors very much wants

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 May 2023 21:08 (eleven months ago) link

all these anti-trans laws seem absolutely braindead, like they'll go apeshit about a trans woman getting 489th place in a marathon and then legislate it so that a trans man with a full beard can only wrestle women, it's almost as if they never actually think about the implications of the laws they're writing because enforcing them isn't really the point. they're just uncomfortable with trans people in general and want to make them think twice before transitioning

frogbs, Thursday, 25 May 2023 21:27 (eleven months ago) link

BREAKING: A GOP-led Texas House investigative committee that spent months looking into Attorney General Ken Paxton has recommended impeaching the fellow Republican after years of scandal. The state House could remove him soon as Friday. https://t.co/0hLgovIIzu

— The Associated Press (@AP) May 25, 2023

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 May 2023 22:03 (eleven months ago) link

I'll take it, what a piece of shit

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 25 May 2023 22:05 (eleven months ago) link

It’s frankly astonishing any time the GOP does any sort of self-policing nowadays. They wouldn’t do it if it meant letting go of a single lever of power. They must have an even bigger piece of shit lined up for the job.

epistantophus, Thursday, 25 May 2023 22:49 (eleven months ago) link

honestly, I'd be surprised if they do just because he was so OTT bad, my money is on a slightly smaller piece of shit

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 25 May 2023 22:54 (eleven months ago) link

I think in a Republican supermajority hellscape like Texas they may be more likely to police their own because they have a lock on the the machinery of power and also know there’s no way Texans will elect a Demmycrat in his place.

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 25 May 2023 23:51 (eleven months ago) link

"Supermajority Hellscape" = Cronenberg's first political thriller

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 26 May 2023 01:00 (eleven months ago) link

this seems like it should be illegal

Twenty-four hours after appearing with Elon Musk to announce his campaign for president, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis just signed a bill into law that will shield Musk's SpaceX and other private space companies from negligence lawsuits after an explosion or a crash.

— Jason Garcia (@Jason_Garcia) May 25, 2023

frogbs, Friday, 26 May 2023 03:41 (eleven months ago) link

the increase in anal sex was due to the “hipsters be analin’”/white couch/trucker hat ilx thread

mh, Friday, 26 May 2023 04:40 (eleven months ago) link

i can't recall. is anal sex why the hat in 'fuck washing a hat' needed washing?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 26 May 2023 04:45 (eleven months ago) link

Nope. This board contains multitudes (of hat jokes)

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Friday, 26 May 2023 04:49 (eleven months ago) link

I'm not sure 1 in 8 cis het men had heard of pegging in 2001.

the word was only invented in June 2001 so this seems a safe bet

least said, sergio mendes (sic), Friday, 26 May 2023 05:50 (eleven months ago) link

doesn't someone in some American Pie-esque movie get pegged or something? Before the prevalence of the internet we all learned a lot from sitcom iirc

serving aunt (stevie), Friday, 26 May 2023 07:45 (eleven months ago) link

not-Stifler gets unexpectedly prostate-fingered at a sperm donation clinic in Road Trip (2000), because he thinks asking for assistance will result in a handie or blowjob iirc?, and is revealed to now be into it in the closing credits montage

least said, sergio mendes (sic), Friday, 26 May 2023 08:34 (eleven months ago) link

on june 7, North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum is going to announce he's running for the GOP nomination for president of the united states!!!!!!!!

z_tbd, Friday, 26 May 2023 17:07 (eleven months ago) link

Make America North Dakota

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 26 May 2023 17:11 (eleven months ago) link

Just when this thread was getting good

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 26 May 2023 17:11 (eleven months ago) link

Burgmentum

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 26 May 2023 17:11 (eleven months ago) link

I always thought it was called "pegging" because it seemed like the sort of sex act Peggy Hill would be into

frogbs, Friday, 26 May 2023 17:12 (eleven months ago) link

If you knew Peggy Sue, then you'd know why I feel blue

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 26 May 2023 17:14 (eleven months ago) link

And Buzzfeed is there with the history! https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/fancyfeast/what-is-pegging-pegtok-broad-city-pegging-episode

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 26 May 2023 17:18 (eleven months ago) link

I waybacked the stranger to find out the month tbf

least said, sergio mendes (sic), Friday, 26 May 2023 17:20 (eleven months ago) link

It's your favorite foreign movie

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 26 May 2023 17:21 (eleven months ago) link

in 2001, fewer than 1 in 8 cishet guys were waybacking the stranger

least said, sergio mendes (sic), Friday, 26 May 2023 17:21 (eleven months ago) link

waybacked

another strong contender, along with punted and bobbed

z_tbd, Friday, 26 May 2023 17:22 (eleven months ago) link

Wayback the Stranger-- deleted track from Pyromania

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 26 May 2023 17:22 (eleven months ago) link

xp

lol sic ya beat me to it

z_tbd, Friday, 26 May 2023 17:22 (eleven months ago) link

The person who proposed it to Dan Savage explained it thusly:

Boy prostitutes were sometimes called peg boys because they would sit on pegs to keep their assholes open between clients, so I suggest the word "peg." The woman would be the "pegger", the boy would be the "peggee," the act would be "pegging," and the boy would write in his personal ad: "I want to get pegged."

jaymc, Friday, 26 May 2023 17:24 (eleven months ago) link

wait what thread is this??

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 26 May 2023 17:29 (eleven months ago) link

US Politics, June 2023: Sit On Pegs To Keep Their Assholes Open

least said, sergio mendes (sic), Friday, 26 May 2023 17:43 (eleven months ago) link

Pegasaurus Ron

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 26 May 2023 17:54 (eleven months ago) link

i was gonna post (in honor of Savage) a political comment involving both pegging and santorum and couldnt bring myself to it

H in Addis, Friday, 26 May 2023 17:59 (eleven months ago) link

on june 7, North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum is going to announce he's running for the GOP nomination for president of the united states!!!!!!!!

Instantly imagined a campaign T-shirt ripping off the Filosofem cover art, but I'm too lazy to bother creating it, especially since the guy's campaign is dead in the water no matter what.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 26 May 2023 18:48 (eleven months ago) link

If you can't beat 'em, Burgum

jaymc, Friday, 26 May 2023 19:02 (eleven months ago) link

BURGUM / BUTTIGIEG 2024

The Bi-Partisan Ticket

Makin’ America Peg Again!

slugbuggy, life has new meaning to me (breastcrawl), Friday, 26 May 2023 20:09 (eleven months ago) link

Boy prostitutes were sometimes called peg boys because they would sit on pegs to keep their assholes open between clients

This has to be a myth, right?

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 26 May 2023 20:27 (eleven months ago) link

I saw Pegboy once... dudes from Nayked Raygun I believe.

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 26 May 2023 20:38 (eleven months ago) link

the guitarist in my band got a pegboy cap at fest a few years ago and i love it when he wears it

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 26 May 2023 20:57 (eleven months ago) link

This thread sure took a turn (sorry, a wayback)

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 26 May 2023 21:06 (eleven months ago) link

It's your favorite foreign movie

Underrated post.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 26 May 2023 21:23 (eleven months ago) link

if we lived in a utopia the us politics thread would always be about pegging

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 26 May 2023 21:32 (eleven months ago) link

I'm just a poor waybacking stranger
Traveling through this world below
There's no sickness, no toil or danger
In that bright land to which I go

Landfill Collins (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 27 May 2023 02:55 (ten months ago) link

I don't think I will ever think of Hamilton the same way again

Landfill Collins (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 27 May 2023 03:01 (ten months ago) link

We are so fucked. https://t.co/1VIjkAnKsQ

— Jena Friedman (@JenaFriedman) May 27, 2023

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 May 2023 17:46 (ten months ago) link

Have we talked about Michael Flynn's amazing new scam?

https://www.businessinsider.com/michael-flynn-launches-4thepure-online-website-covid-19-unvaccinated-people-2023-5

A very-fashy dating service/blood bank/sperm bank/breast milk bank for COVID-unvaccinated people only. What do you want to bet Flynn's donating his own sperm?

Watched a bit of the Texas AG impeachment presentation, this corrupt asshole who has been under indictment for close to a decade is so not going to get convicted.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 May 2023 22:15 (ten months ago) link

I should note, not going to get impeached despite the recommendation of a bunch of Republicans.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 May 2023 22:16 (ten months ago) link

oh shit, I guess it did happen after all! I have been watching, but then set the computer down for a while.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 May 2023 22:20 (ten months ago) link

I was about to say, his supporters mouthed off but then they were absolutely crushed in the vote.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 27 May 2023 22:22 (ten months ago) link

I was surprised by that vote too, I figured they'd impeach him but I assumed it would be a razor-thin margin

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Saturday, 27 May 2023 22:59 (ten months ago) link

but the whole thing is utterly mystifying... why now?

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Saturday, 27 May 2023 23:04 (ten months ago) link

Yeah I feel like we haven’t gotten anywhere near the full story

tobo73, Saturday, 27 May 2023 23:19 (ten months ago) link

The Texas legislature's heart grew three sizes

Hongro Hongro Hippies (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 28 May 2023 00:27 (ten months ago) link

It’s the same cocaine orgies that brought Madison Cawthorn down

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 28 May 2023 00:32 (ten months ago) link

Maybe they want to get ahead of more scandals that haven't gotten out yet

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Sunday, 28 May 2023 01:36 (ten months ago) link

It's purely because he's an asshole and not a team player who can be replaced by someone with his exact politics who's less of an asshole to fellow Republicans.

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 28 May 2023 01:59 (ten months ago) link

What’s this about? Haven’t been paying attention.

DETAILS OF THE AGREEMENT, per source w/direct knowledge:

—Two-year approps deal
—No budget caps after 2025
—Work requirements: no changes to Medicaid
—Phases in & then sunsets (in 2030) SNAP time limits to people up to age 54
—WH pushed to reduce # of ppl subject to time limits

— Andrew Desiderio (@AndrewDesiderio) May 28, 2023

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Sunday, 28 May 2023 02:57 (ten months ago) link

Phases in then sunsets SNAP time limits? This is just cruel.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Sunday, 28 May 2023 02:58 (ten months ago) link

McCarthy told House Republicans on the GOP call that there is "not a single thing in this bill" for Democrats.

— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) May 28, 2023

curmudgeon, Sunday, 28 May 2023 13:01 (ten months ago) link

Well, there's someone to take seriously.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 28 May 2023 13:02 (ten months ago) link

Here's how we square the 6 years v. 2 years circle. Republicans say it's a 6-year agreement; WH notes that after two years, "There are no budget caps... only non-enforceable appropriations targets"

— David Dayen (@ddayen) May 28, 2023

curmudgeon, Sunday, 28 May 2023 13:03 (ten months ago) link

The WaPo:

The details of those cuts are not year clear, though Republicans — who initially sought to slash spending by roughly $130 billion — presented them as far more significant in size and scope. In the 2025 fiscal year, nondefense spending would see a 1 percent increase, with “nonenforceable” appropriations targets in future years, the source said.

Biden and McCarthy agreed to offset additional reductions in domestic spending by clawing back and redirecting other money. That included funds set aside to help the IRS pursue unpaid taxes, which Republicans long have opposed, according to two other individuals who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the sensitive negotiations. The two men also agreed to rescind some money previously authorized to combat the coronavirus pandemic.

Biden and McCarthy also agreed to several provisions unrelated to federal spending and the nation’s fiscal health. They came to terms around new rules that would ease permitting around energy projects. And they brokered a deal around a key GOP demand: new work requirements on low-income Americans who receive food assistance under the program known as SNAP, one of the individuals said.

The new rules would apply to recipients up to age 54 who do not have dependents, raising the current limit of age 49. However, the bill would include some new exemptions for former military service members and people who are homeless, a source said.

Otherwise, the emerging compromise did not make any changes to programs including Medicaid, as Republicans previously demanded, although the full range of the newly proposed new work requirements is not entirely clear.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 28 May 2023 13:04 (ten months ago) link

Work requirements only seem apply to over age 50 something poor people seeking medical assistance it seems I think (oh wonderful)

Summary of deal as I understand it:
— Debt ceiling raised 2 years
— Domestic programs frozen next year, up 1% ‘25. Inflation-adjusted cut
— Boosts defense, VA $
— Some tightening of work requirements on TANF, SNAP
— Energy permitting (details tbd)
— Claw back some new IRS $

— Jeff Stein (@JStein_WaPo) May 28, 2023

curmudgeon, Sunday, 28 May 2023 13:09 (ten months ago) link

Now that he's whittled out some pseudo compromise that he's supposedly close to OK with, McCarthy is so not going to be able to rally his army of stupids to vote for it, is he? Gonna be like his speakership vote redux.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 28 May 2023 14:50 (ten months ago) link

Enough Dems may go for it to negate the Republican holdouts

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 28 May 2023 14:54 (ten months ago) link

And I say this with all due respect to all parties involved: Fuck you, eat shit

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 28 May 2023 14:55 (ten months ago) link

otm

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 28 May 2023 15:04 (ten months ago) link

It is very bad that, every so often, we make a set of arbitrary and damaging policy decisions that have no real impact on the debt in the name of solving a debt problem that is not really a problem, and I hope we have an administration invested in putting an end to this someday.

— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) May 28, 2023

How i break it down

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 28 May 2023 15:45 (ten months ago) link

Yep!

brimstead, Sunday, 28 May 2023 16:48 (ten months ago) link

Biden and his new chief of Staff seem obsessed with trying to be bipartisan and centrist, but not interested in strongly making the case ifor Democratic priorities. Just behaving defensively while McCarthy was out there pushing an extreme right plan and then settling for a slightly less extreme rightward “compromise “ that may only pass if Dems vote for it

curmudgeon, Sunday, 28 May 2023 17:11 (ten months ago) link

More pegging discussion today from an unexpected quarter. David French:

The release of the Missouri senator Josh Hawley’s new book on manhood is the latest peg for a national conversation about men,

Taking Manhood up a Peg by Josh Hallway

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Sunday, 28 May 2023 18:10 (ten months ago) link

Dems have never once played hardball to get Dem policy priorities in debt limit negotiations under Republican presidents.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 28 May 2023 19:06 (ten months ago) link

It's partly bad tactics, I agree, but there's also a point where it's just not being willing to create mass instability. The perennial problem of asymmetrical ideological warfare.

Who’s having a national conversation about men except the ball-tanning weirdos. Sorry you feel emasculated brahs meanwhile we’ll be over here having great sex with our partners.

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 28 May 2023 20:14 (ten months ago) link

I love the whole "men need a sense of purpose" thing, like "how about, don't be an asshole?" That's a pretty good sense of purpose.

Ron DeSantis' sense of purpose is to be so embarrassing.

NEW: “If she were a Democrat, she’d be on every fashion magazine. … They would be making her out to be the biggest deal. But because we’re conservative, we know that that’s not what happens."

– Florida Governor Ron DeSantis (R)https://t.co/wJb5DNe2Vl

— The Intellectualist (@highbrow_nobrow) May 28, 2023

America's first wife guy President

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 28 May 2023 21:02 (ten months ago) link

At least he doesn't call her Mommy. Or does he?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 28 May 2023 21:11 (ten months ago) link

McCarthy was so wrong, there is a single thing in this bill for a Democrat. Can you guess which “Democrat”? That’s right…

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-05-28/manchin-gets-mountain-valley-pipeline-side-deal-into-debt-bill

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Monday, 29 May 2023 00:28 (ten months ago) link

PHOENIX -- Karrin Taylor Robson, a wealthy Republican businessperson who was seen as the likeliest establishment candidate for a crucial Arizona Senate contest, said Thursday that she won't run for the seat now held by independent Kyrsten Sinema.

This pretty much clears the way for Kari Lake to get the nomination.

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 29 May 2023 00:32 (ten months ago) link

Most annoying Senate race ever.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 29 May 2023 00:44 (ten months ago) link

Sounds like the IRS reduction is now $20B not $10B, although the idea is that current funding won't change, it will expire in 8 years instead of 10.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 29 May 2023 01:26 (ten months ago) link

if Kari Lake runs as the republican candidate, Kyrsten Sinema as the independent, and Ruben Gallego as the democrat in the Arizona Senate race, that seems like a disaster to me

Dan S, Monday, 29 May 2023 02:10 (ten months ago) link

what's wrong with Gallego

symsymsym, Monday, 29 May 2023 02:33 (ten months ago) link

nothing, I like him! I'm just thinking in a three-way race Sinema and Gallego will split the democratic vote allowing Kari Lake to win

Dan S, Monday, 29 May 2023 02:36 (ten months ago) link

I've seen people speculate that Sinema's standing with democrats is so bad that she won't take away a significant number of votes, but I have no idea how true that is.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 29 May 2023 02:45 (ten months ago) link

I don't think that's true, she won her last election and we're talking about Arizona democrats here, I think if it's a three-way race Kari Lake is likely to win

Dan S, Monday, 29 May 2023 02:52 (ten months ago) link

polling supports the idea that sinema is HUGELY unpopular with AZ dems, but how it all plays out in a 3-way race is not particularly clear. it wouldn't even take her getting to double digits to throw the outcome into a very gray area.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 29 May 2023 02:54 (ten months ago) link

Lake got 1,271,000 votes to Hobbs' 1,288,000 votes in the last gubernatorial election. She has a lot of support in the state. It just seems like a split vote could easily get her elected

Dan S, Monday, 29 May 2023 03:01 (ten months ago) link

Lake is so crazy I think a lot of "moderate Republicans" might actually go for Sinema

frogbs, Monday, 29 May 2023 03:01 (ten months ago) link

Arizona is an outlier in republican politics, maybe I'll give it that, I'm not sure, but how do you explain the last election for governor? Lake is crazy but they voted for her. Maybe her craziness is becoming more apparent to them, but I still think there will be more democrats that go for Sinema than republicans

Dan S, Monday, 29 May 2023 03:08 (ten months ago) link

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/senate/2024/arizona/

you can just look at the polling rather than speculate, recent polling has it at gallego 42, lake 35, synema 14

Clay, Monday, 29 May 2023 03:15 (ten months ago) link

ok, polls, yeah that's the ticket

Dan S, Monday, 29 May 2023 03:19 (ten months ago) link

Or just doompost your way through it, whatever floats your boat

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 29 May 2023 03:27 (ten months ago) link

senate polling was extremely accurate in 2022 if you throw out all the garbage the Rs threw in just before the election but whatever, just some data 4 u

Clay, Monday, 29 May 2023 03:38 (ten months ago) link

I don't mean to be harsh, and we don't even know if she's running yet, but she came very close to winning the race for governor in 2022 (within less than one point)

Dan S, Monday, 29 May 2023 03:48 (ten months ago) link

is your concern that she's more crazy than the average republican, or that she's more popular than the average republican?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 29 May 2023 04:19 (ten months ago) link

Respect to the data but that polling doesn’t seem to say a lot. The question there is when it comes to a runoff will Sinema voters go for Lake or Gallego? I’m sure they’ll normalize Lake’s batshittery while smearing Gallego, those Sinema loyalists don’t seem too scrupulous to begin with.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Monday, 29 May 2023 04:54 (ten months ago) link

Guess that of moots the point about splitting the vote…I’ll shut up now.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Monday, 29 May 2023 04:56 (ten months ago) link

arizona does not have runoffs, winner of plurality of vote wins the election

Clay, Monday, 29 May 2023 04:59 (ten months ago) link

A third party former Democrat pulling enough of the vote to throw the election is a legitimate concern.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 29 May 2023 05:18 (ten months ago) link

Kari Lake did a lot worse than every other Republican governor running for the last decade. Including the (equally?) psychotic Jan Brewer

symsymsym, Monday, 29 May 2023 05:58 (ten months ago) link

governor *in Arizona

symsymsym, Monday, 29 May 2023 05:59 (ten months ago) link

And yeah there's definitely the possibility Gallego will lose, but it's better than a Sinema vs Lake contest

symsymsym, Monday, 29 May 2023 06:02 (ten months ago) link

Around 200k unemployed people exist between the ages of 49 and 54. Some portion have dependents or disabilities.

There are 500k homeless people between the ages of 16 and 49. Almost none of them were eligible for SNAP before.

This is an *expansion* of SNAP. https://t.co/joXnCucRQi

— Galen Metzger🪬📈🇺🇦 (@GalenMetzger1) May 28, 2023

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 May 2023 12:38 (ten months ago) link

The SNAP changes are nominally extending work requirements to ages 50 to 54. In reality, especially as the new rule is implemented, this is just an indiscriminate cull of a bunch of 50 to 54 year olds from SNAP who won't realize there are new forms they need to fill out.

— Matt Bruenig (@MattBruenig) May 28, 2023

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 29 May 2023 13:27 (ten months ago) link

Florida had *already* exempted homeless people from work requirements.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 29 May 2023 17:53 (ten months ago) link

By dumping them in the Atlantic.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 May 2023 18:16 (ten months ago) link

is your concern that she's more crazy than the average republican, or that she's more popular than the average republican?

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, May 28, 2023

my concern is that she's as popular as the average republican and they don't care if she's crazy, they are going to vote for her

Dan S, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 00:24 (ten months ago) link

And yeah there's definitely the possibility Gallego will lose, but it's better than a Sinema vs Lake contest

― symsymsym, Sunday, May 28, 2023

no, if Gallego loses it's going to be to Lake, not Sinema

Dan S, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 00:33 (ten months ago) link

they're saying it's better that Gallego is running than just having it be Sinema vs Lake

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 00:47 (ten months ago) link

I'm glad he's thrown his hat in the ring.

I hope either Sinema or Lake won't run, neither of them have declared yet

Dan S, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 00:54 (ten months ago) link

Lake seems eager for power. I expect she'll run. Sinema loves the limelight and being in the Senate has gratified that in spades, but if she knows ahead of time she's going to be soundly trounced and badly repudiated there's a chance she'll decide to step away rather than go to all the trouble of campaigning like she cares. She seems like a person who doesn't like going to a lot of trouble if she's not being celebrated.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 01:02 (ten months ago) link

Her best play is to figure out statistically and persuasively which one of them she hurts more by staying in, then selling her services to the other side to try to swing the election for them. She either gets paid off or a sweet gig somewhere or funding for her new nonprofit, whatever.

Her best play is to figure out statistically and persuasively which one of them she hurts more by staying in, then selling her services to the other side to try to swing the election for them.

That's the kind of thing that could get a person recorded without their knowledge, right up to the moment the federal marshals kick in the motel room door.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 01:26 (ten months ago) link

Sounds like a job for Walker: Texas Ranger (Special Assignment: Arizona)

they're saying it's better that Gallego is running than just having it be Sinema vs Lake

yes, thank you. obv any human endeavour would be better without Sinema

symsymsym, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 04:20 (ten months ago) link

Big news from WH backgrounder on the deal: It's a $20b IRS cut, not $10b

But strong implication from WH officials that they'll just pull money forward from later years of the IRA appropriation. They say no changes to enforcement or modernization in near term.

— Jim Tankersley (@jimtankersley) May 28, 2023

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 13:19 (ten months ago) link

Sounds familiar

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 15:24 (ten months ago) link

Sassy!

Biden: One of the things that I heard some of you saying is why doesn't Biden say what a good deal it is? You think that's going to help get it passed? No. That's why you guys don't bargain very well. pic.twitter.com/q4xRKedQGy

— Acyn (@Acyn) May 29, 2023

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 18:33 (ten months ago) link

to be fair, in the short term, his (and mccarthy's) problem appears to be getting it past ultra rightist cranks on the rules committee.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 18:35 (ten months ago) link

McCarthy's already on to more achievable goals:

Kevin McCarthy told Hugh Hewitt that the next goal for Republicans is to "eliminate the wokeism" pic.twitter.com/cEdaysT3OM

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) May 30, 2023

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 18:45 (ten months ago) link

This seems good:

Question: How much confidence do you have in the speaker right now?
Bishop: None. Zero. pic.twitter.com/c4oYvmcOjp

— Acyn (@Acyn) May 30, 2023

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 18:54 (ten months ago) link

Time for a Mencken quote:

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the population alarmed (and thus clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with a whole series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.

"wokeism" = new hobgoblin

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 18:54 (ten months ago) link

Wokeism-Leninism

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 18:55 (ten months ago) link

The news from Minnesota these days, from Tennessee it's like looking at another planet.

Former Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura (I) joins Gov. Tim Walz (D) as he signs a bill legalizing marijuana:

"Prohibition will end today on cannabis ... a plant made by God. [Gov. Walz and the Legislature], thank you."

"Jimi Hendrix is looking down on Minnesota smiling today." pic.twitter.com/9ZMiMxBIYi

— Heartland Signal (@HeartlandSignal) May 30, 2023

Who was it who was posting dire warnings here that Tara Reade was someone who should absolutely be taken seriously and who represented a major threat to Biden's candidacy? *nelson-laugh.gif*

Russian media announces that Biden accuser Tara Reade is now in Russia. Russian spy Marina Butina is helping her get citizenship. pic.twitter.com/pP9p8hRcFw

— Don Moynihan (@donmoyn) May 30, 2023

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 19:02 (ten months ago) link

holy shit

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 19:04 (ten months ago) link

Most of us on the Biden thread around April '20 xpost

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 19:07 (ten months ago) link

except for Fred B

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 19:13 (ten months ago) link

claims that should be seriously evaluated, one of those "seriously but not literally" things that pop up during an election

what a plot twist now, though

mh, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 19:15 (ten months ago) link

*ahem*

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 19:15 (ten months ago) link

Woah, I'm seeing things.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 19:16 (ten months ago) link

We’re a country of separate countries.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 19:26 (ten months ago) link

SHAKES!

serving aunt (stevie), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 19:50 (ten months ago) link

Yeah, that's the real breaking news.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 20:32 (ten months ago) link

whoa, hi Οὖτις!

z_tbd, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 20:44 (ten months ago) link

we traded Russia Reade for Shakey?

least said, sergio mendes (sic), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 21:10 (ten months ago) link

part of the debt ceiling negotiation

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 21:15 (ten months ago) link

Someone had to say it...

McGovern: This represents an all time high in recklessness and stupidity. Let me point out the obvious, every time Republicans are in charge they screw things up. pic.twitter.com/XOPDevZtFc

— Acyn (@Acyn) May 30, 2023

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 21:47 (ten months ago) link

sometimes you just can't win

Chick-Fil-A Branded 'Woke' After Right-Wingers Find Old Diversity Statement

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/chick-fil-a-woke-diversity-controversy_n_64762adbe4b045ce24852bf4

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 22:37 (ten months ago) link

ahahahahahahaha

Marvel Puzzle Quest is my favorite gasm (DJP), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 22:42 (ten months ago) link

“Chick-Fil-A-Woke”

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 22:43 (ten months ago) link

this isn't political, but McDonalds is next in line

i cannot get over how cute the new sapphic McDonald's commercial is 😭 pic.twitter.com/s2SkBK1doM

— ⚢ (@dailysoftgl) May 29, 2023

Dan S, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 22:47 (ten months ago) link

In today's hypermediated and hypersexualized world (to coin a phrase) that ad will definitely be seen as sexual by the type of people who'll make an uproar over this. otoh, their great-grandmothers probably held hands with other young women frequently, made similarly cute comments, and it never crossed their minds how that might be viewed by others. It was, if anything, hypernormal back then.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 22:56 (ten months ago) link

fwiw that ad is for the Philippines market

Love na babalik-balikan #LoveKoAll 🥰 pic.twitter.com/BsjHAQXd69

— McDo Philippines (@McDo_PH) May 30, 2023

jaymc, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 23:11 (ten months ago) link

definitely pretty tolerant over there.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 23:56 (ten months ago) link

hi, Shakey

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 May 2023 00:02 (ten months ago) link

not getting my hopes up that Οὖτις will return, but it's nice to see a post

Dan S, Wednesday, 31 May 2023 00:06 (ten months ago) link

lol I guess?

🚨CBO says debt limit provisions negotiated by the White House will *expand* direct spending on SNAP and the number of recipients on net.

The expansion to veterans, homeless, and foster youth is larger than the effects of the age 49-54 work requirementshttps://t.co/6uJ6WUDW3r pic.twitter.com/S95mkNfJfy

— Aaron Fritschner (@Fritschner) May 30, 2023

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 31 May 2023 01:52 (ten months ago) link

I have already read some say that CBO is over-estimating the number of vets, homeless etc who will know they’re now eligible and be able to fill out the paperwork

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 31 May 2023 04:36 (ten months ago) link

Also reading some say Biden did great in limiting budget decreases for agencies, and that with Republicans controlling House limited budgets were inevitable. But deal has all those other components too plus no closures of tax loopholes or reduced defense . Plus Biden was forced to negotiate .

The debt ceiling deal is closer to being "what Republicans would expect to get through the ordinary budget process" than many feared.

But they still profited off hostage taking. And that's a big loss for responsible government in the U.S. https://t.co/s53jwIKQxX pic.twitter.com/NNKPJvCtnu

— Eric Levitz (@EricLevitz) May 28, 2023

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 31 May 2023 04:40 (ten months ago) link

So, a mixed bag in terms of the politics of it, which seems unavoidable in a nation that gave Donald Trump more than 74 million votes. In terms of doing anything good for anyone below the median income, just another bitter pill they're being forced to swallow.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 31 May 2023 05:21 (ten months ago) link

for Republicans, the point of the debt-ceiling standoff was not to advance deficit reduction, but rather, a budget that prioritized low taxes for the rich and high spending on the military over all other fiscal priorities. They won this on the strength of their reputation for nihilism. Biden believed that Republicans just might deliberately make Americans poorer if he did not consent to their desired spending cuts. McCarthy, by contrast, did not believe that Democrats would engineer a recession if his caucus refused to, say, close the carried interest loophole. This is partly attributable to the fact that the sitting president is likely to take the lion’s share of blame for any economic crisis. Still, congressional Democrats’ refusal to use the debt ceiling as a vehicle for extortion under Trump indicates that the two parties are not equally credible hostage takers.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 31 May 2023 05:50 (ten months ago) link

Wow, those people who come up to Trump with tears in their eyes, now DeSantis is seeing them too.

DeSantis is particularly annoyed with Trump saying Andrew Cuomo handled covid better than him. Has brought it up multiple times during press conference.

Says Floridians came up “in tears, hugging me” during pandemic, saying “thank you, governor …. you saved my bacon.” https://t.co/NoTSyuXkSJ pic.twitter.com/CGiLkIQyol

— Natalie Allison (@natalie_allison) May 31, 2023

DeSantis never saw my bacon.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 May 2023 18:07 (ten months ago) link

These people are all cemetery owners I imagine

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 31 May 2023 18:15 (ten months ago) link

the five people you meet in tears

soup of magpies (geoffreyess), Wednesday, 31 May 2023 18:16 (ten months ago) link

Maybe all of these people are just allergic to assholes.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 May 2023 18:29 (ten months ago) link

i seem to recall it being generally poor form for strangers in tears to walk up and hug you at the height of the pandemic, but of course DeSantis never saw it that way.

got it in the blood, the kid's a pelican (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 31 May 2023 18:42 (ten months ago) link

i guess this is mccarthy's way of saying sorry to his right wing, while also cutting an early campaign ad for congressional democrats.

Breaking: Kevin McCarthy announces a “commission” to “look at” cutting Social Security and Medicare: “I’m going to make some people uncomfortable.”

He attacked Biden for “walling off” cuts to Social Security and Medicare during debt ceiling negotiations. pic.twitter.com/4jWkNUtCHD

— No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen (@NoLieWithBTC) May 31, 2023

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 31 May 2023 21:59 (ten months ago) link

Kevin licks The Third Rail like in A Christmas Story

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 31 May 2023 22:10 (ten months ago) link

Good idea, the GOP should campaign on that.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 May 2023 22:22 (ten months ago) link

Christ almighty. I'm not in business of giving Kevin McCarthy advice but wtf dude. They just spent literal months having a shitfit every time Biden accused them of wanting to cut Social Security and Medicare, they cut a debt ceiling deal that does not cut Social Security and Medicare, now is the time you say, "See, we were never going to cut Social Security and Medicare."

Oh, is he making you uncomfortable?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 May 2023 22:28 (ten months ago) link

it's a dog whistle to the far right that only believes the federal gov't should purchase weapons

there will be no 'commission'

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 31 May 2023 22:42 (ten months ago) link

Kevin McCarthy always makes me uncomfortable because he always seems so uncomfortable himself. Talk about a guy who is going to leave no discernible imprint on history. He's not even sure what he's there for.

Meanwhile this Georgia raid on the people providing bail assistance to Cop City protesters seems pretty bad.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/atlanta-police-arrest-3-organizers-behind-bail-fund-supporting-protests-against-cop-city

how long before he gets removed by the freedumb cockus?

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 1 June 2023 13:27 (ten months ago) link

After declining to take audience questions after his first New Hampshire campaign event today, Ron DeSantis lashed out at a reporter for asking him about it while he was chatting with members of the crowd individually.

Here’s the video, via @NBCNews —> pic.twitter.com/Z2WtLy0JNj

— Jonathan Allen (@jonallendc) June 1, 2023

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 1 June 2023 18:42 (ten months ago) link

Clashing with the Press.. look what it did for Trump, gotta play that same card

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 1 June 2023 18:47 (ten months ago) link

“It” what

june 1 and 2 never happened

z_tbd, Saturday, 3 June 2023 15:08 (ten months ago) link

pic.twitter.com/08DgSW5V9t

— David Weigel (@daveweigel) June 3, 2023

z_tbd, Saturday, 3 June 2023 15:14 (ten months ago) link

we should just keep posting on this thread, imo. time is disappearing.

https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2023/06/utah-school-district-bans-book-that-contains-incest-genital-mutilation-sex-and-drug-use

is this possible in florida? for one person to request that the bible be banned, and that's enough to get it banned pending review?

z_tbd, Saturday, 3 June 2023 15:41 (ten months ago) link

BREAKING: Late Friday night, a federal judge declared Tennessee’s anti-drag Adult Entertainment Act to be unconstitutional following a two-day trial last month. More to come at Law Dork: https://t.co/oFbD0ZqTha pic.twitter.com/g3nx2khhHc

— Chris Geidner (@chrisgeidner) June 3, 2023

curmudgeon, Saturday, 3 June 2023 18:59 (ten months ago) link

really think this is kind of a dumb gotcha to do tactically. these places will just write in a Bible exception, they will like having that reason to do it. xp

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 3 June 2023 19:01 (ten months ago) link

Unless there's an objection or someone starts a new one shortly I'm just going to change the thread title to include June.

The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Saturday, 3 June 2023 20:34 (ten months ago) link

Has Joe Biden succeeded in making politics boring again?

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Saturday, 3 June 2023 20:52 (ten months ago) link

Good luck isa

Toploader on the road, unite and take over (Bananaman Begins), Saturday, 3 June 2023 21:17 (ten months ago) link

I think this is going to seem incredibly weird to general election voters

DeSantis: As president, I recognize that the woke mind virus represents a war on the truth so we will wage a war on the woke. We will fight the woke in education, we will fight the woke in corporations, we will fight the woke in the halls of congress. pic.twitter.com/8bd7eQSDgM

— Acyn (@Acyn) June 3, 2023

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 3 June 2023 22:40 (ten months ago) link

He sounds disturbed

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 3 June 2023 22:45 (ten months ago) link

Sunshine state Blake Masters

Crabber B. Munson (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 3 June 2023 23:12 (ten months ago) link

I am watching a water skiing show in Wisconsin right now, and the MC is giving off serious Meatball Ron vibes. Like he's found himself in front of tens of people and has no idea what to do or how to come off like a human person while attempting it.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 3 June 2023 23:37 (ten months ago) link

Here's a freebie thread title. Use as is or twist to your heart's content:

US Politics, June 2023: Meatball Ron And The Don

righteousmaelstrom, Sunday, 4 June 2023 00:45 (ten months ago) link

Meatballs III: Summer “Rob”

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Sunday, 4 June 2023 01:15 (ten months ago) link

We shall fight woke on the beaches, we will fight woke on the landing grounds, we shall fight woke in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight woke in the hills. We shall never surrender.

sayonara, capybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 4 June 2023 01:35 (ten months ago) link


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