Q is Joe Biden, another non-US Politics thread (Q Anon, Qanon, Q_anon, Joe Biden is Q)

if we're going to do this much Q stuff, maybe another thread for it?

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, January 20, 2021 12:42 PM (seventeen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yeah, that was a fine op-ed.

I'm a little baffled by all the cheering on of Empire that's happening here and elsewhere on the internet, though, so I'm peacing out for now.

― The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Wednesday, January 20, 2021 12:42 PM (sixteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

xpost - I mean, fair, but, unfortunately, as recently as two weeks ago, the "Q stuff" was inextricably and dangerously tied to politics, so it's kinda hard to avoid. I think right now there's just a joy in watching some absolutely terrifying and dangerous people lose their shit and identity.

― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, January 20, 2021 12:44 PM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah i don't think we can stop talking about trump and his supporters here, but the Q stuff really is a cesspool and i'm fine with not hearing about it again.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, January 20, 2021 12:46 PM (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

otm

― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, January 20, 2021 12:48 PM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

otm

Q started as tangentially related to US Politics and contributed to the (probably temporary) demise of a major political party, but i would guess that it will continue to morph and glom onto something else, post 1/20/21. rebranding, new topic, new conspiracies. many of the original followers shaved off, maybe, as they realize that the content of their daily lives is a practical joke gone cosmically wrong, but also a lot of fresh new Q blood as every single event that happens in the world features a splinter conspiracy theory that proffers to offer an explanation for why the things that we see are not real, and the things that seem like absurd jokes are the true light

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCE3xpqBNdM

i'm here for it, to be honest

my first 20 years were consumed by hysterical stupidity, and my next 17 have been a hysterically stupid quest to dig my way out of the shit. i'm here to watch these dumbasses swirl down the drain, fuck all of them

https://i.imgur.com/IFcKChf.png

As I mentioned in the other thread, I feel like there needs to be a government-run 'Were you or a loved one sucked into the Q conspiracy? Call 1-800-NO-MORE-Q now!' ad running during every commercial break on TV for the next little while. We have to live amongst these people, I'd be willing to part with a little tax money towards an effort to make them slightly less frothingly insane.

in 2021, i will try to experience life 2 hours after everyone else

I mean yes we also need funding for mental health across the board and the implementation of rigorous critical thinking curriculum in the schools but there's some shit that needs to be dealt with ASAP, clearly.

there was some washington post tipline that someone sent me, recently, looking for stories from people whose lives had been ruined by conspiracy theories...

ah, here we go:

https://hosted-washpost.submissionplatform.com/sub/hosted/60020debad758400354509dd

not sure if that'll work if you don't have a sub, but it looks like this

https://i.imgur.com/wPaPn3H.png

disincorporate fox news and put the proceeds toward holding Truth and Reconciliation town halls in every us county that voted red is how i break it down to an extent

maybe i'll spend my day off writing the least readable submission they'll receive

a lot of Q folks right now: i’d like to speak with Q manager pls

While Biden took the oath, one top post on a QAnon forum read: “I don’t think this is supposed to happen” and wondered, “How long does it take the fed to run up the stairs and arrest him?"

Other users became immediately dejected, realizing their dreams of a bloody coup were not going to take place.

Dreams of a Bloody Coup

The real dream of a bloody coup is what's happening at the end of Q's term in 2024. it will be like deep sleep, a dream within a dream.

Revealing Biden as Q = Q Eponymous = Qepon = Q-weapon

the Q-weapon is upon us

exactly: 17 = 17 Eponymous = 17epon = 17-weapon

divide by Epon (which equals eponymous), you're left with

17 = 17 = 17 = 17-weapon

it's been staring us in the face the entire time

Today is Inauguration Day. It will be a milestone day for QAnon supporters. We may see splintering as Biden takes office between those realizing QAnon isn't real & those doubling down & moving the goalposts. Here's a poll from a QAnon Telegram channel today suggesting a divide. pic.twitter.com/CDdG2vm5ZD

— Alex Kaplan (@AlKapDC) January 20, 2021

What if Q was actually Q this whole time? Picard would have seen through his trickery by now.

i have a friend with a Q anon sister-in-law (from rural BC) so it will be interesting to hear dispatches straight from the horse's mouth

My birthday is the 17th of the next month. Am *I* the Q-weapon?

Actually I'm pretty sure Q Anonymous was Joe Klein

https://i.imgur.com/GEUSDlR.jpg

https://www.sonypictures.com/sites/default/files/styles/max_560x840/public/title-key-art/qbert_onesheet_1400x2100.png?itok=xRzjzflM

I'LL BE BACK

have a good life!

I would like to learn the whole story of this one day, like who was behind it and what their motives were

Q as Folk
five friends navigate their relationships in an increasingly hostile world

Q was invented by Chapeau Trap House for purposes of malarkey

it was actually me who started it, and i have proof

I’m leaning toward prank that got out of hand and that trump lazily folded into his “stop the steal” movement. But it could have been a psyop conducted by a hostile power.

"She was just 17/If you know what I mean"--took 50 years, but now we finally do.

Lightly read this yesterday... seems like there's something there:

Was QAnon—America's most dangerous conspiracy theory—inspired by Italian artists

https://www.theartnewspaper.com/feature/was-qanon-america-s-most-dangerous-conspiracy-theory-inspired-by-italian-artists

I would like to learn the whole story of this one day, like who was behind it and what their motives were

It seems more or less confirmed that it began life as a shitpost, then sold the account rights/access to the highest bidder (profiteering goons or whatever)

btw did you guys ever notice what letter we have to use when we excerpt someone else's post????

I used to have a FB friend who was big into all the QAnon garbage who kept sharing stuff from a group called "Cindy Q Lou" and honestly the name of the group bothered me more than the conspiracy theory

I posted this on April 2, 2018:

https://imgur.com/gallery/UWIZt

https://i.imgur.com/C1KwvXb.png

https://i.imgur.com/LvJPiwo.png

a few weeks earlier, i was watching trump on tv, and he looked straight at me and said "now you're q2", then went back to his speech.

if you read this you might be a q2

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/Osaka_RMS_Queen_Elizabeth2_06bs.jpg

I'm afraid I have been merely designated a 'Qt', which feels of lower rank

https://i.imgur.com/9WvnxQC.png
https://i.imgur.com/Fmis6WK.png

wait a second, isn't Queen Elizabeth important?? i mean, historically?

Join the q

realize your q

Have I got a Q-tip for you all

http://fujifilm-dsc.com/en/manual/x30/button_q/use_q-button/images/ill_bd_up_button-q_480.gif

it's such a vibrant conspiracy

J'aQse!

Come hop in my jaQzzi, it's shaped like a Q and no it isn't comfortable, not even a little bit

holy shit, andy! and there's even a giant arrow pointing directly to it

ver-Q signalling, for when you have to signal a new version of Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ifTAuOUFnA

Quincy Jones was an early version of Q but he said to much to the magazines so they had to make a new one

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/1B20/production/_113544960_qcollage.jpg

too much, even, one must keep one's grammar even under Q-ress

oh fuck Andy you have just blown the whole sodding gaff

inamongst all of this flimflam it is striking to note that a thread on our very own I Love Music claiming that Stereolab has a future is 37 full new answers to the good

Not even Q could have predicted that

https://i2.wp.com/www.desitablog.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/desita-for-speed-queen-101.jpg?fit=993%2C692&ssl=1

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c7/Stacey_Q_Two_of_Hearts_1.jpg/220px-Stacey_Q_Two_of_Hearts_1.jpg

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/TpgAAOSwal5YCsYA/s-l500.jpg

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41Zpi0qpS2L.jpg

once you're woke, you can't unsee it... it's everywhere!

Don't know where else to share this, so I'll put it here.

I spent a little under a decade alternating backpacking and working in different countries, and met a lot of people. This guy I met in 2007 seemed basically fine at the time, I have certainly met a lot worse.

Here is the photo he put up on Facebook when Trump won in 2016, just before I unfriended him.

https://i.imgur.com/0fRZOSk.png

I was with this guy for a week and did not spot any sign of his being a crazed loon, he was more the "travel broadens the mind" type. So not sure if he changed, or was just hiding his terribleness from view.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8f/Quisp_fair_use_crop.jpg

Someone told that guy that Stereolab had a future and he broke

https://i1.wp.com/www.back2stonewall.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Quentin-Quisp-The-Naked-Civil-Servant.png?fit=693%2C453

too many hats, quentin

old lunch, actualize your Q

first of all, let me lay claim to that smallest part of the jaQzzi:

https://i.imgur.com/XvRwqVQ.jpg

but then self-realize that the smallest part of the jaQzzi is exactly where you want to be:

https://i.imgur.com/C15T8aP.jpg

xpost Maybe the backpacker dude is in character? Like a pro-wrestler or something

The British famously love to...

Q just has so much to offer us all

from his fb feed he has been to a lot of trump rallies since, and has a selfie with DJT jr up there too, so if it's a character he is really playing the long game on this one.

xxp

Okay.. because his photo looks almost like a caricature of a Trumpling; but then again, most of them do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB3i8Wftv6g

i wonder how much of Q success is due to Q being an "interesting" letter

nobody wants to use boring letters. hey, future conspiracies, use boring letters too!
"have you heard the latest B drop"?

It seems more or less confirmed that it began life as a shitpost, then sold the account rights/access to the highest bidder (profiteering goons or whatever)

CONFIRMED - "Q" IS BANAKA!!

The breath spray? Oh, wait ...

https://www.raspberrypi.org/app/uploads/2017/05/tumblr_mf4m22ChOe1qbyh74o1_500.gif

Q is luriqua

I appreciate people willing to go to the source on Q breakdowns for our amusement.

TWIST: Trump’s grifted all of them and his entire presidency was a false flag trap to take away people’s guns pic.twitter.com/P0F7RQfb4u

— c a i t l i n (@hello__caitlin) January 20, 2021

Did Q ever reveal who killed Roger Podacter?

Enough with the Qtsey titles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9gCv4muTRo

Waht's this about Quibi?

https://i.postimg.cc/k4w9FYLP/139256905-4334954409867101-5893080058515319235-o.jpg

Don't know how significant this is

This is actually a sign that QAnon as we know it is collapsing.

All of the threads /qresearch/ board are deleted. This was allegedly done by an 8kun "rouge moderator." FastJack, the Board Owner of /qresearch/, blames Jim Watkins for allowing a staff member to destroy the board. pic.twitter.com/tHMGGHWXFH

— Travis View (@travis_view) January 20, 2021

also

Looks like a frustrated 8kun moderator just nuked the /qresearch/ boards and posted a message trolling Jim Watkins:

"Fuck you, Jim ... I am just performing euthanasia to something I once loved very very much"https://t.co/ZN4gsekxwh pic.twitter.com/7WaHETrOKl

— Jesselyn Cook (@JessReports) January 20, 2021

Does that purge include all the original Q 'drops'? That would be rad.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsMKuJzXcAECqD1?format=jpg&name=medium

Q do you neeeeeed
When you come undoooone

i just keep thinking that trump could have stopped this at any moment by saying it wasn't true.

it's such a bloody fantasy they have -- "the storm" was supposed to involve the invocation of martial law and execution by hanging of leading democrats

I mean its a fortnight since they tried that tbf

https://www.amazon.com/Q-Luther-Blissett/dp/0156031965/

would be hilarious if this was where they got the name

Would certainly liven up his otherwise Watford FC dominated wiki page

the luther blisset connection is weird. they'd spread disinfo and then debunk it, exposing the memetic nature of discourse or whatever. Q is doing the opposite. it seems like he wants to create chaos and pain.

I'm a sucker for things like that last segment. I will now exit before the howls of derision.

(Wrong thread--not important.)

You'd think Q could have equipped his followers with some smart gadgets at least

i just keep thinking that trump could have stopped this at any moment by saying it wasn't true.

this would have emboldened them further if anything

Does that purge include all the original Q 'drops'? That would be rad.

Nah, that's still around, probably always will be - I wonder if one site will go full Torah and allow layers of commentary.

https://qalerts.app/?n=35

They would've interpreted any eye movement as a wink. xp

this was a helpful summary

https://www.mediamatters.org/qanon-conspiracy-theory/2020-qanon-became-all-our-problem

https://i.imgur.com/bukFD5r.png

"I love the way butter won't melt in Trump's mouth"

need to see the evidence on this

Those brainwashed cult members cannot overcome our soul force.

What is running out of my nose rn, oh it is my brain which has melted.

if the ultimate endgame for q is "it becomes scientology for people outside of los angeles" then that's fine imo

'(even in each of us)'

Bellingcat had this excellent primer last week as well


https://www.bellingcat.com/news/americas/2021/01/07/the-making-of-qanon-a-crowdsourced-conspiracy/

That's optimistic imo. Q's a dragnet that's been drawn over p much the whole world now. Like the MediaMatters piece says, it takes on a different form and emphasis of nutters in different countries. It's completely easy to ignore Scientlogy and never ever have to deal with it in real life; this, not so much.

xxp

to be clear, i think the endgame will be worse than that

and even if they believe their "soul force" is enough to counter whatever they think is going on, and that "power of prayer" mindset deters them from action, it is still not ideal to have a large group of people praying for the execution of their political enemies.

Soul force vs Space Force

There is literally no end to this shit pic.twitter.com/vDLqbJOcOy

— c a i t l i n (@hello__caitlin) January 21, 2021

She looks unnervingly like a woman I worked with who asked me if cavemen are real after seeing a Geico commercial.

some people might be hanging on but i think these people are currently scattered and 'reeling.' they'll regroup soon enough as another fringey movement, but their moment has passed for now. away to the dustbin!

Like is there really still that much lead paint within reach of America's children?

Vaguely tempted to start a 'What if Trump had been reelected?' counterfactual thread, partly because I wonder how far these people would have taken their little 'game'.

somebody really needs to sit these people down and introduce them to fan fiction

The best fanfic doesn't know it's fanfic, and they know this to be true without knowing it.

xpost I've been saying variations of this for years. It's like they've somehow had zero previous exposure to benign outlets for their wilder imaginings or baser impulses. Go DM a D&D campaign or shred on some CoD, for chrissakes, and stop dragging literally everyone in the world into your waking fever dream.

Does she use her lashes to catch krill

i kind of enjoy watching stupid people tell me the details of what they've found in the corners of their mind labyrinths as long as they keep it to two minutes or less

Like is there really still that much lead paint within reach of America's children?

Not necessary, it's right there in the water

Fox News is worse than lead, imho

I heard some talk of this on a podcast and those chan missives sounded like nothing so much as clues on 3-2-1. So yeah, Q is the reanimated corpse of Ted Rogers and you've won "Dusty" Biden?

I just watched the Leap Day William episode of 30 Rock, there's a train of thought Tracy does in response to a 'clue' re the soup kitchen he's standing next to, that's exactly this.
Tracy: "Remember where I came from." But we all came from the sea! Sea, like the letter 'C' which is part of the alphabet. Alphabet soup. Soup kitchen. Kitchen--
Man: --No, no, don't keep going!
Tracy: The Kitchen Debate with Richard Nixon. Richard M. Nixon. The M Train. Soul train. Chicken soup for the soul. Chicken soup. Soup kitchen.

I, for one, blame Lacan.

I'm loving all these stories about tearful, crestfallen Qberts, but it begs the question: did they really believe this was going to happen? That Democrats and Tom Hanks would be executed for pedophilia at Guantanamo Bay? Or was this all some kind of elaborate role playing game?

I mean, I guess some of them must have believed it, but the majority? It's fucking crazy talk.

Its like sports fandom, you do get het up in the moment

How many self-described religious folks believe in God/gods? etc.

Haha i totally get the Ted Rogers thing.

yes many people believed it and many still do. i saw some meme account on IG post some meme making fun of Q believers because of Biden's inauguration and there were multiple comments in the vain of "trust the plan", "this is going to look stupid in a couple of weeks", clicking through to the user's accounts showed that they were mainly in earnest

and they were all young people

NYT: Biden’s 17 Executive Orders and Other Directives in Detail

:O

I mean:

https://www.reddit.com/r/InsaneParler/comments/l1iufi/insane_parler_qanon_lunatic_crying_and_begging/

It is to laugh

This is playing out over and over again on the QAnon/pro-Trump internet. Whenever someone suggests taking real action, like voting, organizing, forming a new political party, running for office, etc. the response is always the same: Elections are rigged, so it won't matter. pic.twitter.com/TjFtgS0H4f

— Molly Hensley-Clancy (@mollyhc) January 21, 2021

in the sense that elections are generally rigged to prevent lunatics from getting elected to pursue batshit conspiracy theories, yes. these people should be satisfied with the number of nuts they get through as it is.

Belief isn't an all or nothing thing. I think part of the QAnon phenomenon is that believers mostly began by allowing themselves to believe in the possibility that the Q mythology was based in truth. They just gave it a chance. The rest of the work was done by crowd psychology and the seductive nature of the Q mythos, which offered them simple enemies with purely evil motives who would be summarily dealt with by simple retributive justice in the end.

The fact that none of this was detectable in visible reality was easily explained by the super-secret nature of the evil conspiracy and the righteous counter-conspiracy. Q was the prophet who gave them tiny glimpses into the complex machinations of both sides and this solidified its 'reality'. As soon as you believed in Q's reality, you got sucked into the vortex.

I’m okay if they are too demoralized to do anything, including random violence.

For most of them the excitement was in waiting for it all to go down, like kids waiting for Christmas to come. There will be a few who wanted the public executions of their named and known 'enemies' (e.g. Democrats in Congress and state governments) so all-consumingly that when they realize nobody's going to do it for them, they'll start seeking another way for it to happen.

I look forward to the phrase "...before turning the gun on himself" making a comeback.

In the world of domestic violence it never went away.

Cant not read in movie trailer voice, sorry

I know not everyone has patience for Brad Troemel, as he certainly grates on me at times, but I think this is actually really helpful and interesting in understanding how Qanon groups used memes to really spread the conspiracy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG8wCRmdVmQ

Cant not read in movie trailer voice, sorry

*a sudden deep bass BOOM! of a giant bass drum with the echo canyon reverb setting*

oh really

Lawyer for 'QAnon Shaman' says he feels 'duped' by Trump after not getting a pardon https://t.co/P1eccPXeRk

— Raw Story (@RawStory) January 22, 2021

It's all about the choads he didn't pardon, u see

Trump is ultimately responsible for the storming. I’m happy that the people who were there are being appropriately charged, but the person I want to see held to account most of all is Trump.

Well the funny thing is, per that lawyer, is that they’re clearly thinking of ways that could go. Civil suits, perhaps?

reading that quote he 100% sounds like he's preparing a civil suit

wait you mean like all the QAnon folk civilly suing Trump himself?

cos that would be all kinds of hilarious

that's what I took away from it, they were misled by his lies then he told them to walk to the capitol

next to of course rotting in jail, nothing else would bring me more joy than him having to appear in civil court for lawsuit after lawsuit for years and years and basically being ass out

or should I say more ass out than he already is

Meantime, speaking of court, this thread details an attempt to talk about all the fraud and horribleness that everyone who is not Trump allegedly did to keep Trump from winning. It is of course garbage. But you might want to read a stretch of it based around this tweet where the people filing suit try to invoke Tolkien. It doesn't go very well.

And this is an epic footnote.

First of all, they forgot to include a proper citation and pincite.

Second, no, really, what the bloody hell are you people SMOKING? pic.twitter.com/qHPOxDuajF

— Mike Dunford (@questauthority) January 22, 2021

i just read it. they provide no evidence that the biden presidency or the 117th are "illegitimate," they just repeatedly claim it.

Well, they're illegitimate because Democrats were allowed to vote. I mean, do they really have to spell it out for you?

in a court filing they're supposed to. these aren't koans.

your honor, i would like to submit the text of one J.R.R. Tolkien's The Silmarillion as exhibit B

if i may be granted liberty to summarize the story of this wonderful tale, it all began with music, with the Ainur, the angels, willing the very fabric of the universe into order,

Affirmed.

https://i.imgur.com/pxaHbNL.gif

The most surprising thing I've learned over the last couple of months is that you can file literally any kind of garbage as long as it's in the format of a lawsuit and you somehow won't get catapulted into the sun by the unlucky judge who's forced to entertain it.

one important thing is you have to get lucky and draw one of the 40% of federal judges who are complete jokes

we should file lawsuits seeking reversals of the 2000 and 2004 elections and ask for Dubya to un-serve his 8 years

i'm starting a lawsuit to double the production budget of Amazon's upcoming Lord of the Rings series, because i'm tired of the lies

"Stewards" sounds an awful lot like Stewarts, as in Bonnie Prince Charlie etc. This could go far deeper than we imagine.

Trump is ultimately responsible for the storming. I’m happy that the people who were there are being appropriately charged, but the person I want to see held to account most of all is Trump.

The most surprising thing I've learned over the last couple of months is that you can file literally any kind of garbage as long as it's in the format of a lawsuit and you somehow _won't_ get catapulted into the sun by the unlucky judge who's forced to entertain it.

I mean not for nothing Powell and Lin Wood are probably gonna get disbarred

A growing contingent of big-name companies — including Walmart, Starbucks and Microsoft — are teaming up with local governments and medical providers to get coronavirus shots in more people’s arms.

The public-private efforts come as Biden has outlined his plans to combat the virus that has killed more than 400,000 Americans, and they include a goal to administer 100 million vaccines in the first 100 days of his administration. Though at least 38 million doses of the vaccine have been distributed in the United States, just 2.4 million people have been fully vaccinated, according to data tracked by The Washington Post.

read between the "lies" of the lamestream media - Microsoft was once related to a man named Bill Gates. this Bill Gates has been working for YEARS to inject his secret codes into the bodies of people throughout the world, via 5G implants and false "vaccinations".

and now Q, joe biden, is giving Gates the go-ahead to spread his code into American bodies. not sure if this is good or bad, because Biden is Q, but more research is needed

You know what else has Gates? Hell. Hell does.

holy...

wait, what else has the word Gate in it?

holy...

Now that you mention it, OL, it struck me like a bolt of lightning that the Thermopylae means "Hot Gates" and that's where the 300 Spartans held off the entire Persian army and saved Western Civilization for all time.

(starts frantically watching the movie "300" on endless loop looking for clues)

wait a second - that means i have to take my shirt off when i research, but before i do that, i have to get ripped by training for years and years

so Kevin Gates is the only person who's getting vaxxed?

do I have that right?

I wouldn't mind having the Gates implant as long as it doesn't run on Windows XP.

XP stands for Xtract Pancreas

next to of course rotting in jail, nothing else would bring me more joy than him having to appear in civil court for lawsuit after lawsuit for years and years and basically being ass out

yes, this would be a delightful addendum to his desperate last month. I already relished the idea of him having to face multiple trials for financial crimes in orange jumpsuit due to prior convictions, but having to face charges from regular normie peons would really rub it in, even aside from them being disappointed former MAGA chuds

Wake up Sheeple: TikTok users are propagating the idea that an obscure 1871 act made the United States a corporation and not a federal government, thus rendering any laws passed after that year moot and U.S. citizens not subject to them. According to this theory, the United States will revert back to its original form on March 4th, the date when presidents were inaugurated prior to the 1933 passage of the 20th amendment. They believe Trump will be sworn in as the 19th president of the United States. (The 18th president, Ulysses S. Grant, served between 1869 and 1877, or the time period when those who cling to this theory believe the United States “became” a “corporation.”)...

TRUST THE PLAN.. as it evolves beyond recognition

TikTok users are propagating the idea

This is equally troubling. Yet another social media mega-platform getting colonized by people out to destroy society.

I thought TikTok was primarily teenage girls dancing around singing Toto songs. I've never looked at it, tbh

Kids today and their Dan Fogelberg

the kids are actually dancing to billy joel these days, no joke

i'm in the wrong timeline

the kids are actually dancing to billy joel these days, no joke

― Karl Malone, Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:17 AM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

this rocks if true

Depends on the tune. If it's We Didn't Start the Fire, count me out.

It's Allentown

Forget it Jake

Q is Joe Biden, another non-US Politics thread (Q Anon, Qanon, Q_anon, Joe Biden is Q)

it will show up in every single thread search, thanking Q

Qr welcome

https://media.agonybooth.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/29182842/star-trek-the-next-generation-deja-q-splash.jpg

Awkward lunch meeting: Newly uncovered Facebook posts by Georgia freshman Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene expressing support for the murder of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi were called “deeply disturbing” by the top Republican in the House (McCarthy), whose office said he planned to “have a conversation with her” about it... According to CNN, Greene “liked a comment that said ‘a bullet to the head would be quicker’ to remove House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. In other posts, Greene liked comments about executing FBI agents who, in her eyes, were part of the ‘deep state’ working against Trump.”

Is McCarthy's "have a conversation" akin to Susan Collins' "I'm concerned?" Pfffftt...

Eating babies is bad apparently even jelly babies?
How do Q feel about tom baker?

Just getting to see the Qanon series from earlier this week. Scary stuff.

An NBC producer talked to Rep. Greene’s constituents in Rome, GA yesterday. Many were not bothered by her conspiracies.

“Noah was a conspiracy theorist himself when he built the ark,” one supporter said. “So who are we to say that it’s true or not?” https://t.co/vRn2tEAPrj

— Charlie Gile (@CharlieGileNBC) January 28, 2021

makes sense

hell yeah Jonathan Chait in the NYMag link:

Axios has a small squib about “The Mischief Makers,” a handful of idiosyncratic congressional backbenchers who make trouble for their respective party leadership. The leading Democratic mischief-maker is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who advocates some left-wing views I consider simplistic and impractical and, in some cases, poll badly. The top example of a conservative mischief-maker, presented in perfect symmetry, is Marjorie Taylor Greene.

^is this sarcasm or

sarcasm, keep going

i had the same first thought

lol fair enough

is chait literally parodying his own style here?

if so a) nicely done but b) why is it only this obviously ridiculous now?

Lol at MTG’s “But what do I know? I just like to read a lot.”

I'm not a 'gater I just read a lot

is chait fucking serious comparing aoc to that q anon psycho?

oh he knows exactly what he doin

and it's not good

He’s mocking the Axios piece for doing that.

it would be less confusing if he hadn't been doing that kind of thing unironically for years

How can anyone just now be discovering how bonkers MTG is, I feel like the fundamental fact of her nuts-ness has been her calling card from day one. Pretty much the only reason I know her is as the Q candidate.

"fuck yeah jonathan chait" is one of the most horrible phrases ever typed into this website

According to CNN, Greene “liked a comment that said ‘a bullet to the head would be quicker’ to remove House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. In other posts, Greene liked comments about executing FBI agents who

trying to win over left twitter I see

I’m from Marjorie Taylor Greene’s District and I would like to say something pic.twitter.com/ktnVp9vexg

— Corey “The Buttercream Dream” Forrester (@CoreyRForrester) January 29, 2021

^ that was fine

No matter how justifiably pissed he is, I don't really want him screaming at me

he was screaming at his neighbors. we're just a couple of gawkers.

I think he said he wasn’t really talking to you.xp

He's great.

Anyway.

This video has been shared a lot but it needs to be noted she is being interviewed by Katie Hopkins, a notorious bigot and hatemonger who is loved by white supremacists. Trump praised and supported both women many times. This is the Republican Party. This is it. https://t.co/2YoyHGCjFX

— Wajahat Ali (@WajahatAli) January 30, 2021

Ps. This is Q.
His name is Jim Watkins. He and his son Ron, run the Q account.
Ron outed his dad as the one behind the posts. Fuckin Losers. pic.twitter.com/m72ru2yAfN

— Hal Sparks (@HalSparks) January 31, 2021

https://www.insider.com/who-is-q-why-people-think-jim-watkins-qanon-8chan-2020-10

Are we sure that's not GG Allin's brother Merle?

Jim Watkins looks like he was created by John Kennedy Toole. Looks exactly like the one image I can remember seeing of the character though maybe a little slimmer.

Do Q fans recognise that the story has been outed as a fiction or see that as a troll. Or further revelation they need to interpret into their epistemology while waiting for further orders. Like the Doublethink of both believing and disbelieving t that was talked about heavily at the start of the incumbency.

The question I have is how did he learn all those secrets about the deep state and the satanic pedophile cabals? This story isn't over!

Probably anyone on this thread has already heard it, but the Reply All on the Watkins and their involvement in all of this is pretty fascinating.

https://gimletmedia.com/shows/reply-all/llhe5nm

Watkinses, I guess is the proper plural there.

Am I alone in being disappointed when I have to listen to a podcast/watch a vlog to find out about a thing and I cant read about it.

No, I'm exactly the same and I've probably missed out on some quality audio/video material as a result.

it would be good if the q identity could be authoritatively established and put to rest so i look forward to some kind of big expose. (written, of course, i'm not about to start listening to podcasts). i know that it won't change the mind of every supporter, but still.

seems very likely that this jim watkins was a big part of it, maybe the main guy.

the one thing about this i just can't get over is how dumb the people are who believed in this. like, it's one thing to think that the state protects sex offenders. (they do!) but to think that TRUMP is the one who will blow the lid off it... and that the way it will happen is this dramatic, eschatological unveiling.... and that YOU, reader, have an important role to play, searching for patterns on google image search or whatever... it's just bizarre.

it's like learning hundreds of thousands of adults believe in santa claus, and that believe santa claus wants them to kill the speaker of the house.

Am I alone in being disappointed when I have to listen to a podcast/watch a vlog to find out about a thing and I cant read about it.

― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, February 1, 2021 2:36 PM (twenty-eight minutes ago)

pretty sure gimlet does transcriptions of all their audio-based content, let me check though...

lol, didn't take long! just scroll down and expand by clicking the "Read More" link

afaict that link goes straight to the transcript.

lol xpost

Treesh you cannot be in here shocked and sad that people are either or both of naturally or consciously thick af

Half the world are dumber than a person of average ~intelligence*~

* yes but still

aiui, half the world are dumber than a person of median ~intelligence*~

no need to thank me. it's just part of the service.

Well somebody of above median intelligence just knocked his poem out of the running for my vote

i can't help it, deems. when i read about q anon, and the credulousness of the q-bees, i find myself astonished.

i agree with the poster upthread that there is probably some kind of doublethink/cognitive dissonance involved in this. it is an easter-bunny level belief.

Have you read this piece treesh?

https://medium.com/curiouserinstitute/a-game-designers-analysis-of-qanon-580972548be5

In statistics, mean, median, and mode are all known as measures of central tendency, and in colloquial usage any of these might be called an average value.

xps I'll just pick up a sympathy vote somewhere and it'll all cancel out.

i have. that article does a good job showing why it is engrossing to people as an experience. but this, i would think, would make the story Q is telling feel even more manufactured, more like a fantasy

xp

In statistics, mean, median, and mode are all known as measures of central tendency, and in colloquial usage any of these might be called an average value.

The original statement is a paraphrase of an old George Carlin joke: "You know how dumb the average person is? Well, half of them are even dumber than that!"

Thanks re transcript lol I didnt even think to look.

As to Waktins/8kin being Q, I thought that was basically common knowledge all along? I'd always assumed most sensible ppl knew 8chan made Q up as a joke. I neverunderstood why it got taken seriously when this had such clearly finable back-roots.

So many Q's and not enough A's.

DALE BERAN: Even today, I could put in, um, Q@Matlock. And then if I wanted to put a post on 4chan, it would appear exactly under Q’s old tripcode, which I did, to test it while I was writing the article. [laughs]

PJ: Whoa, so you’ve also posted as Q?

DALE: Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I mean, who hasn’t, really, at this point? [laughs]

PJ: I mean I haven’t. What did you say?

DALE: I don’t like looking at 4chan, ‘cause it’s full of gross stuff, so I, uh – there’s /pol/, which is the- the fascist board, and then there’s /po/, the paper, craft, and origami board. Uh, I went to /po/, um, and someone posted a nice piece of origami, and I posted as Q. I said, “Looks good.” [laughs]

Read the whole transcript and its even more batshit than I'd surmised. But yeah its pretty clear it started as a joke - they didnt even know who was posting as Q half the time FFS - and then snowballed with a lot of ego in the mix.

in colloquial usage any of these might be called an average value.

yes, I know I'm derailing again, but this colloquial blurring is precisely the reason why conservatives love to cite average USA household income rather than median USA household income; the enormous income gains of the 1% pull the average up considerably even though income from wages has remained stagnant.

i agree it's infuriating but hopefully we can keep any other words that may be lying around out there meaning more than one thing from falling into the hands of dastards.

Mean

I suppose that movie should have been called Average Girls, eh what?

Beast Average

Average Streets ftw

https://clutchpoints.com/lakers-news-identity-of-woman-who-threatened-to-fck-lebron-james-up-at-hawks-game/

I bet this 80-year old MAGA steroid freak and his 25-year old influencer wife have Q opinions.

richard jefferson is doing lebron dirty by liking all of courtside karen’s pics on instagram pic.twitter.com/Je4Ogyo7tX

— buckets (@buckets) February 2, 2021

I haven't listened to a podcast since 2017, and I've hosted several of them lol. I was subjected to so much NPR as a kid that if I'm listening to anything, it isn't a bunch of people talking, it's music!

I don't even own a podcast!

I don't even own a kid

how much are you looking to spend?

Am I alone in being disappointed when I have to listen to a podcast/watch a vlog to find out about a thing and I cant read about it.

I find it easier to focus on a written piece, and to organise my compulsion to zip off and further research little details. But I really enjoyed listening to the podcast of this story, and am fine with podcasts if I'm not actively researching something for work.

I'm too impatient for podcasts, I think. Reading something is many times quicker than listening to it being spoken; I soon feel like I'm wasting time. (I'm also very bad at sitting down to watch a film.)

you can speed them up!

Ah ok! I've actually been doing that a bit on YouTube (not for actual films etc). Thanks!

(lol, i meant to post this "hmmm, gee i wonder?" post here)

greene has continued to double-down on everything and i'm sure the conspiracy will expand to include all congressional republicans who vote to oust her from her committee positions (which, holy shit that she was ever give one in the first place). mccarthy gave her a choice: denounce Q or step down herself. she did what all Q people do: she doubled-down and refused to do either reasonable thing.

i guess greene's fate will go a long way toward answering this Q, but

Q: are more Q people going to run in the 2022 midterms? are some going to win? because imagine like THREE MTGs in congress!! lol

I stand by my prediction that one or more people who participated in the Capitol riot will be GOP congressional nominees in 2022.

it's not hard since you just need money and in some districts might be unopposed in yr race

viking guy fo sho

i want King Diamond to run

xps - seems quite possible, especially in heavily democratic districts, where any serious GOP candidate would take a pass on running, but some Qninny is happy to pay the filing fee and spread the Gospel According to Crazy.

i'm 100% certain they'll run, but the scenario i'm wondrin' about is whether any of them can win. because if even one or more does, this could get reaaaally fucking crazy

under a more parliamentary government with multiple parties, we'd ALREADY have like a 5-10% share of Q reps

or at least, i think that was true up until a couple weeks ago, the biden inauguration, the subsequent fracturing/rending of garments...and today, what's going on with MJT will go a long way toward determining the future of Q as a political...disaster?

on the other hand, the Q way, and the way of the conspiratorial mind in general, is to double-down and continue evolving the story until there's a new mystery and a new persecutor

A Qbeliever won the Republican nomination to run for US Senator in Oregon last year against Merkley. She won about 30% of the vote.

they'd have to make some vague pro-2A, anti-abortion, pro-Q and yes, pro-Trump remarks, but it would be interesting for some non-trad candidates to run as charismatic weirdo "independents" in some of these historically uncontested districts in the south & west, and then when they get to DC just as quietly as possible fall in line w Justice Dems

i mean, you'd be recalled or murdered almost immediately but what a ride eh?

let's just do it and be legends

hey if i could do it w a halfway straight face and looked better in a cowboy hat...

Facebook data scientists found 70% of its 100 most popular civic groups in the U.S. were “non-recommendable.” Common reasons were “calls to violence,” bullying, harassment and proliferating misinformation.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-knew-calls-for-violence-plagued-groups-now-plans-overhaul-11612131374

The calm before the storm.@USMC Marines provide security during a simulated raid exercise at @MCIWPendletonCA. pic.twitter.com/WpghORgDqT

— Department of Defense 🇺🇸 (@DeptofDefense) February 4, 2021

Tweet has been deleted, what was it?

The DOD accidentally (?) using Q language.

Jesus...

gonna assume ignorance on their part tbh, "calm before the storm" used to be a perfectly innocuous phrase once upon a time

gonna assume ignorance on their part tbh, "calm before the storm" used to be a perfectly innocuous phrase once upon a time

If it was like the Department of the Interior or something, sure, benefit of the doubt all the way. But not the military. The US military is riddled with Nazis and whack jobs of every stripe. I'd bet cash money that whoever's handling their social media thought this would be witty and cool and a nod/wink to "their people."

tbh I didn't associate that as a white supremacist phrase, so I wouldn't automatically assume the USMC's social media intern did.

yeah tbh I didn't realize that was a Q phrase and this is the problem with them repurposing garden-variety cliches, is that then when people say them you don't know if they are intentionally invoking Q or just innocently using a phrase they've used their entire lives.

which is to a degree by design to 'own the libs by confusing them' but oh i've gone crosseyed

The Y2K crowd reappropriated 'when the shit hits the fan' and 'the end of the world as we know it' as insider lingo.

yup, see also the "a-ok" hand signal shit, basic crazymaking tactics

As the QAnon phenomenon becomes more central to critical political and public safety questions, I realize we need a new vocabulary to describe this and similar phenomena. Q is not a “conspiracy theory”. The faked moon landing was a conspiracy theory. Perhaps birtherism was a conspiracy theory, though one with similarities to QAnon because of its strong ideological valence. But Q is not a conspiracy theory. It’s a fascistic political movement which predicts and advocates mass violence against liberals (and everyone else outside its definition of true Americans) in an imminent apocalyptic political reckoning. What we call the ‘conspiracy theories’ are simply the storylines and claims that justify that outcome. They could easily be replaced by others which serve the same purpose.

In other words – and this is still a very basic confusion – the Q phenomenon is not a factual misunderstanding that more credible news sources or prevalent fact-check columns would deflate and tame. You can even see this play out in real time in what we might call Q ‘man on the street’ interviews in which a reporter dissects or debunks some claim the Q supporter believes. The response is invariably something like, “Well, there are a bunch of other bad things I heard they did.”

Some Q supporters clearly believe some of the movement fables. You can see this in the late 2016 story of the man who stormed the Pizza shop in DC which was a focal point of pedophilia claims in the PizzaGate conspiracy theory, which was a precursor to Q. (Most PizzaGate fables were later incorporated into Qanon.) Edgar M. Welch, the would-be mass shooter and rescuer of abused children, was clearly quite surprised to find that Comet Ping Pong was in fact just a good pizza joint, with no abused children, no dungeons, no secret headquarters of John Podesta.

But Welch, I think, is the exception. Just as the ‘conspiracy theory’ language is inadequate and misleading we need a better way of understanding belief, particularly belief as a form of aggression. I don’t think most QAnon believers actually ‘believe’ that Hillary Clinton runs a pedophilia ring, at least not in the sense that you and I think of the word. Most of us in politics and in journalism have a rather classical and mechanistic understanding of cognition and belief. We use our mental faculties to ascertain what is true and then we believe those things that appear to be true. Or we take the word of trusted sources and believe those things. We may believe things which are not true either because we’ve been mislead or because our pre-existing biases distort our understanding of what is true. For this, good fact-check columns can help. When we say things we know are not true that’s lying. We know that’s not right. But sometimes we do it anyway.

This is a very inadequate way of understanding the Q phenomenon and much else in contemporary politics and culture.

I say you’re a pedophile not because I think you’re actually a pedophile but because it is an attack. Because it hurts you. In online and message board culture there are legions of users constantly attacking anyone they disagree with or don’t like as pedophiles or other horrid accusations. Presumably these people aren’t acting on some mistaken information that the people (the identities of whom they usually don’t even know) they’re attacking have sexually abused children. It’s not a misunderstanding. It’s a form of aggression. Things like the Q phenomenon are just this aggression writ large. I say you’re a pedophile because it is itself an act of aggression but also because it dehumanizes you. It’s a storyline that makes hurting you or killing you make more sense and be more exciting.

Not surprisingly given his role in these movements, Donald Trump is a good illustration of how to think about belief in this context. We know that Trump is a scurrilous, pathological liar. But as I’ve written, Trump doesn’t believe or not believe as you or I likely do. In fact, if you could sit Trump down sedated or under some kind of truth serum and ask why he was lying about some particular claim I think he would find the question almost bewildering. Someone like Trump finds what would be helpful to his needs or claims or interest in the particular moment and then says those things. And I think he even kind of believes them because they help him. What you say and ‘believe’ isn’t tethered to what’s true in quite the same way. You might as well ask a novelist why she writes things that aren’t true. She’d be equally befuddled by the question.

If you’ve worked in business a certain kind of salesman is like this. You size up the customer, find out what they want, what they feel they need and then tell them a story to make the sale. Is it lying? Well, not to them. Not exactly. It’s selling. Again, you don’t ask a playwright why he writes stories that aren’t true. Needless to say Donald Trump is that kind of salesman. How is it Donald Trump always seems to rapidly believe whatever is helpful to him in the given moment? Or later say exactly the opposite when that’s helpful? There’s rampant voter fraud. Bill Clinton is the worst sexual predator in human history and is definitely awful even as Trump himself casually harasses, importunes, assaults, rapes and more? Since they help you you do sort of come to believe them because why not?

Any sports fan comes to believe that their team is absolutely the best and the rival team is definitely the worst, with all manner of chants, regalia and affirmations even though they know – from another perspective – that all of this is in fact absurd. To Trump it really would be like asking a novelist why they keep making up stories that aren’t true. The reaction is incomprehension. The point here is not to defend Trump who is malevolent predator and degenerate liar. It is to explain that his calculus of truth, belief and advantage are quite different than what most of us are likely familiar with.

Just how QAnon and comparable movements work is something I’m still working to get my head around. (These two articles are the analyses that interest me most – here and here.) But calling them conspiracy theories is not only wrong in concept it seriously misleads us about what they are and how to combat them. Qanon is a violent terroristic political movement with strong fascistic facets the upshot of which, in every storyline, is a final violent reckoning in which Trump’s political enemies are rounded up and murdered. That’s what it’s about. The fables are just getting people primed and ready for that moment.

josh marshall

^a critical and necessary distinction we need ASAP

not so solid on the novelist/playwright analogy but that’s a good piece

I don't always like him but that's excellent imo.

osita otm

https://newrepublic.com/article/161266/qanon-classism-marjorie-taylor-greene

just spitballing but i feel like part of this phenomenon is the same logic that bonds frats and sororities together. intelligent, privileged people who coerce each other to do the stupidest shit in order to prove they're close to each other.

Q people jelly right now

JUST IN - Myanmar military says 'voter fraud' justified coup.

— Disclose.tv 🚨 (@disclosetv) February 8, 2021

the josh marshall piece is good, thanks karl

Q is everywhere!

Does yoga have a conspiracy theory problem?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-55957298

Definitely have heard people talking anti-vax shit in yoga classes. It was very disheartening.

At least one yoga friend of mine has taken the path from "Yoga is good for people and also banned" to "Why can't yoga get an exemption" to "If we all just practiced yoga, we wouldn't need any of this lockdown"... and stayed there. Not everything is QAnon.

Again, the Venn of white supremacy, anti-Semitism, QAnon, anti-vax stuff, and new age spiritual beliefs is a pretty big Venn.

I genuinely don't think that means what you think it means - a bigger Venn diagram would be one with minimal overlap.

And the links between the first three and between the last two are stronger than the links between each group - though there's an increased chance these days that they'll be exposed to each other and have to make a queasy peace. The group missing is anti-lockdown, which is not quite the same as anti-vax.

Again, the Venn of white supremacy, anti-Semitism, QAnon, anti-vax stuff, and new age spiritual beliefs is a pretty big Venn.

i'm guessing it looks like a fried egg within a fried egg

a fried egg Quesadilla within a fried egg Quesadilla presumably

You knew what I meant, dude.

If you want a picture of the future, imagine a fried egg Quesadilla being stuffed inside a fried egg Quesadilla --forever

Not sure why, but Andrew's first response to that post got me really riled up.

If you knew what I meant, which is evident, then why be such a dick?

you say dick, I say diQ, let’s call the whole thing off

I guessed what you meant, because people nearly always only talk about Venn diagrams to say "all these things are the same thing" (and because these things are a lot closer to "completely different things" than "the same thing") - but you said literally the opposite.

The Inigo Montaya line was being a dick though, you're right - sorry about that.

Thanks, and sorry to get up in yr grill. I was just like "damn i was stoned when i posted and this guy is coming after me wth"

What happened to Marjorie? She was big news like two weeks ago, now she's been cancelled and is chopped liver.

I think the general lesson is that the 'whiter' an activity/belief is, the more redolent of insanity that activity/belief is likely to be. Like, unsurprisingly, the more stridently you attempt to partition off your perspective, the more your perspective becomes defined by whatever's inside your asshole (and people whose assholes are most like your own asshole).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ12_E5R3qc

this is how lauren boebert appears during a house hearing. this is a very sane political party. pic.twitter.com/GvobX1RYho

— Oliver Willis (@owillis) February 18, 2021

And they’re back... because they simply cannot and will not accept reality. Their refusal to admit this is all a hoax speaks volumes about the cult mentality of QAnon. It’s dangerous and damaging to our democracy. https://t.co/9fYbDQ7bw6

— Adam Kinzinger (@RepKinzinger) February 18, 2021

"damn i was stoned when i posted and this guy is coming after me wth"

new board description

What happened to Marjorie? She was big news like two weeks ago, now she's been cancelled and is chopped liver.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9246917/Marjorie-Taylor-Green-openly-cheated-husband-men-gym.html

I've been plugging away at Reaganland for the last while...Perlstein mentions a Q-like conspiracy having to do with the gas shortage of 1979; some people thought it was all manufactured, that there were full oil tankers parked off the coast and that Carter was plotting with Exxon and Mobil to flood the market at just right the moment.

Back in the day, if you espoused a conspiracy theory like that you'd've been written off as a crank. Today, you toss some human trafficking pixies into the narrative and you're practically mainstream.

He does mention an AP/NBC poll where 70 percent of the public believed the gas shortage in '79 was an "industry hoax." Not necessarily that they believed Carter was in league with Exxon/Mobil, but that somebody was lying. Overall, though, agreed, the wilder stuff is much more mainstream now.

The recent QAA episode on the great awakening map is a good one.

https://soundcloud.com/qanonanonymous/episode-130-psychedelic-5d-qanon

xp that picture of lauren boebert, and everything about her, is really funny. sometimes i think the far right uses their own absurdity as a kind of shield, like they want you to underestimate them. this seems especially true of the boogaloo people.

I've been plugging away at _Reaganland_ for the last while...Perlstein mentions a Q-like conspiracy having to do with the gas shortage of 1979; some people thought it was all manufactured, that there were full oil tankers parked off the coast and that Carter was plotting with Exxon and Mobil to flood the market at just right the moment.

the boogaloo people, in adopting that moniker and wearing hawaiian shirts as their gang sign, are most certainly attempting to disguise themselves as harmless and ridiculous. it is the total opposite of the KKK approach of looking like wolves, while the boogaloo people want to look like sheep. they are both violent white supremacist scum.

trump was like that too, i think. you couldn't really mock him because he was already a clown.

boebert just reminds me of him in this sense. the bar called shooters, the little gun holster she wears around her thigh, it's just such a weird performance.

"the gun lady"

Just imagining the brainrot from listening to 130! Episodes of a podcast about Qanon dickheads.

Like, I don't need 130 episodes of anything about something I actually LIKE.

A gun-themed bar called Shooters is so clearly not a regular joe working stiff bar but a highly contrived Disney-style attraction for petit bourgeois assholes.

https://scontent-lga3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/154371638_10224997875756180_5660368630465798191_o.jpg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=3&_nc_sid=dbeb18&_nc_ohc=FFiLApRNqskAX94-lJV&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-2.xx&oh=19969c42ba049058227016d8c7bdcb6c&oe=605FC143

Really leaning into that whole "it's just a stylistic preference" thing

Obama is nothing like Bush and I trust him to only kill the right people

i have at least two friends that do the 'here's hwy it's ok that our Democrat does this horrible thing' gymnastics, drives me nuts

uh

pic.twitter.com/nLEeYDyvb5

— G.W. Bush-era Leftism Bot (@DubyaEraLeft) March 1, 2021

Those are certainly letters

The schtick of that account is that it's all old images, right?

yes, that's a bush era cartoon, thought that should be obvious

Breaking on @MSNBC: The FBI and DHS have issued a joint intel bulletin warning that domestic extremists have discussed plans to "take control of the U.S. Capitol and remove democratic lawmakers on or about the 4th of March." March 4 is important to QAnon believers. @JuliaEAinsley

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) March 3, 2021

Give it up already. Sheesh.

I prefer the Q followers who were like "Shoot, maybe this Biden victory was part of the Plan all along?!"
The flexible ones, the taoist ones.

Q is Joe Biden, Joe Biden is Q

you'd think at a certain point the fact that literally nothing they have said was going to happen has actually happened would have an effect

it started off with Q making the prophecies, but it quickly became others making the prophecies with Q. it's an evolving shared decentralized game, and the unspoken goal is to create the most popular variant of the theory that others can attach themselves to

so if 3/4/21 isn't correct, than good: now it's someone else's turn

when i saw the photos of all the Q people protesting around the globe on 1/6/21, i knew it would never go away

when i saw the photos of all the Q people protesting around the globe on 1/6/21, i knew it would never go away

Can QAnon survive another ‘Great Disappointment’ on March 4? History suggests it might

https://theconversation.com/can-qanon-survive-another-great-disappointment-on-march-4-history-suggests-it-might-155192

i used to sometimes for fun listen to this harold camping guy on the radio in my car and he kept predicting the world would end on certain dates. he even bought billboards saying it would end may something 2011. still waiting!

I think Harold Camping was an Oakland dude, oddly enough. Or at least he broadcast out of the East Bay somewhere.

And yes, his world did come to an end.

🐦[Breaking on @MSNBC🕸: The FBI and DHS have issued a joint intel bulletin warning that domestic extremists have discussed plans to "take control of the U.S. Capitol and remove democratic lawmakers on or about the 4th of March." March 4 is important to QAnon believers. @JuliaEAinsley🕸
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) March 3, 2021🕸]🐦

Somehow I imagine these doofuses, unable to storm the Capitol this time, trying to storm Capitol Heights because of the name and then getting lost in the suburbs.

they're all going to show up at Federal Express and threaten to shut down the mail service

They're LARPing anyway... it'll be a choose-your-own-adventure kind of outing.

if you want to build a pillow fort at the Pentagon, go to page 14.
If you want to invade and seize Medieval Times, go to page 15
If you want to do something that actually matters, become somebody else.

They're LARPing anyway...

The problem is that some of them are LARPing with body armor and loaded semi-automatic rifles and handguns. This can become a problem if they really get into their role-playing.

My guess is not much will happen tomorrow and 9/11/21 will become the new date where everything changes, it fits their shitty action movie sensibilities.

Aimless otm. I think this bullshit would be a lot easier to laugh off if we didn't already know how many of these dudes are heavily armed and/or work for groups with access to military grade weapons. Do I think they'll successfully storm the Capitol again? No. But it annoys me to see people shrug this off as if its inconsequential.

Somehow I imagine these doofuses, unable to storm the Capitol this time, trying to storm Capitol Heights because of the name and then getting lost in the suburbs.

Capitol Records is comparatively unprotected, just sayin

the Quapital

They can storm Capitol Total Landscaping.

it just seems to me like March 4th is a big deal to the magical-thinking Q believers, the day when the scales fall from everyone's eyes, we realize that the US hasn't been a country since 1871, the military mobilizes, etc. Jan 6 was supposed to be a day when Congress could take a specific action and fix the stolen election, and there was a certain bonkers logic to the idea that a mobilization of people would push Congress to do what they wanted. But nothing election-related is actually happening tomorrow, so what's going to be the spark?

Looking at the big publicly visible Q forum they seem pretty doubtful that anything will happen.

Mostly likely a few grumpy old dudes in mossy oak and MAGA caps, loitering in front of state capitol buildings... they couldn't get the time off work to drive to D.C.

Yeah, without a big focus like "Mike Pence can turn this around", it'll diffuse, people will find their own deadlines or slow processes for realising that nothing is happening - some might realise that nothing is happening others, will get back to what they see as the great work. A quote from the forums:

If we're looking at anything being done behind the scenes to act as countermeasures, it seems likely that they will continue to be covert and unannounced to the greater public. Meaning soft moves, not hard ones. If you think about it, without controlling dissemination of information across the majority of the popular platforms, narrative positioning and hence moving the population to the much vaunted 'military tribunals' is a logical and practical impossibility. If you took over the major airwaves and showed the greater population what their rulers truly were, to try and get support for hard actions, you'd be effectively playing into the enemy's hands of dividing the country and perhaps irreparably so. It is likely not a campaign of in your face confrontation, but the years of positioning to levers of power that you're looking at, that is assuming, anything is being done at all.

For our part, the answer is clear, people have to carry on with their lives as best they can and create the country they want for themselves and their children, as best they can.

I mean there will definitely be a problem where there's a bunch of people who felt like the system was in some way representing them, and now don't (and have further "evidence" that the system is broken and invalid), and they're heavily armed and belligerent. And Q is serving as a plank in the ramshackle platform that supports anti-vax, anti-mask, that's not good - one of the Wins of the Day yesterday was Texas governor Abbott lifting coronavirus restrictions.

it started off with Q making the prophecies, but it quickly became others making the prophecies with Q. it's an evolving shared decentralized game, and the unspoken goal is to create the most popular variant of the theory that others can attach themselves to

It's interesting because it's an example of what memes (in Richard Dawkins' original conception) were - the idea mutates when it needs to (when the road runs out on Jan 6th) and the strongest (the ones with the highest upvotes on the forums) continue - these are the ones that can latch onto an existing structure, like the Sovereign Citizen movement, or bible studies - being able to read everything as a biblical reference is a very similar skill to being able to read everything as a Q-code.

I read more talk of 'bracing' for extremists.. have any actually shown up? Or is The Great Re-ReAwakening cancelled?

iirc from post-prediction doomsday manual, the next steps are pretty simple:

...

SCENARIO 2.4.22: A specific date was prophesied but nothing happened
protocol: go back to the bible and/or ancient calendars. at some point, mistakes were made and the whole world is now on the wrong calendar. only you and your friends know what the correct date and year is now

CNN was covering this yesterday...I guess they have to, but that really seemed to me to be a case where you're just feeding into the possibility of something happening. Cover it, and I'm sure there are people who think "Well, we'd better do something or we look weak"; ignore it (beyond a quick story about the Capitol closed for the day--you can't really ignore that) and the incentive to go through with this insanity diminishes. Not that I claim to understand this mindset.

so did this happen, or

yes, we were spiritually judged by Trump so Biden became Trump and doesn't know he's Trump yet, but will know in 3 months time during the activation

the calendar is wrong, folks, come back later on the true date

QAnon Shaman (Jacob Chansley,the shirtless buffalo horn dude): "I developed a lot of sympathy for Donald Trump because it seemed like the media was picking on him and seemed like the establishment was going after him unnecessarily or unfairly, and I had been a victim of that all of my life, whether it be in school or at home. So in many ways I identify with a lot of the negative things that he was going through," Chansley said.

"I honestly believed and still believe that he cares about the Constitution, that he cares about the American people, and that's also why and you know it wounded me so deeply and why it disappointed me so greatly that I and others did not get a pardon," Chansley added.

Perhaps this is the core of their adulation, or at least some of them... rather than Trump as a strongman, they see him as somebody who has been pushed around and had sand kicked in his face, just like they've been pushed around, persecuted, shamed. A lot to unpack here.

Nah, that smells like a bullshit excuse made up after he got caught and suffered some consequences, hoping for sympathy.

I'm inclined to agree.

I think it's possible he believes that, and maybe some percentage of Trump's cult; for the rest of the world, Trump as victim/bullied is kind of hard to get your mind around.

Not dismissing you, it's just so at odds with the alpha dog, big balled tough guy who brooks no shit image they project on Trump, that it feels really disingenuous to only now hear this take after things are falling apart and they are suffering irl consequences.

(And yeah, who cares anyway, even if he does.)

In a way though, the very core of Trumpist appeal is victimhood: they've wronged you and people like you, and only I can make it right. Nobody's gonna push you around anymore, etc.

re: Trump as bullied, AIUI that kind of paradoxical thinking (our enemies are effeminate and weak; our enemies are terrifying in their strength and oppress us all) is pretty core to fascism.

so at odds with the alpha dog, big balled tough guy who brooks no shit image

people with poor self-awareness (most of us) are quite capable of feeling they are simultaneously super heroes and victims, without seeing any contradiction in that. learning to see yourself as if from outside and know your flaws and self-deceptions is a learned skill which must be kept in constant use if it is not to atrophy.

It's still stunning that man who daily wears hairspray and tanning spray, and has never carried anything heavier than a five iron in the last forty years, was able to position himself as a working-class hero/salt-of-the-earth/champion of the people so effectively. I mean, Hitler was at least a war veteran.

But perhaps his string of divorces and business failures actually added to the appeal.. that was his 'struggle'.

March the 4th be with you all.

4/3/21 would be a better date imo. So much more to work with.

Welp, looks like we all have some serious crow to eat. Welcome back, President Trump, I guess! Whodathunkit!

xpost Seriously. Ask Peter Schilling.

apparently we all have to give back the vaccines we got? this sucks.

I've heard that ending birthright citizenship was to become the #1 priority in the 2nd term; too hot to tout during the campaign, obviously. Stephen Miller died inside when this didn't happen.

sorry Q, your President's in another castle

the calendar is wrong, folks, come back later on the true date

there are actually multiple Julian calendars that might be the true one, just keep that in your back pocket, i mean in mind

And don't forget - this is a Julian leap year

Did u know that if you look at old calendars, March 4th happened on many different days of the week, virtually all of them, and so it follows that this March 4th could fall anywhere in this week or maybe any other week, only Q knows for sure, have faith and Q will provide

(Ugh, until this very moment, one for the 'puns you'd missed' thread: MARCH FORTH. Subtlety, thy name is Q.)

there's this new theory i have i heard that trump is going to elected on where the Julian Leap Year date (Feb 29) would be on a non-Julian leap year, if that makes sense. so if this is a Julian Leap Year, which is what I read here a minute ago i heard, then we might need to wait until where the "Feb 29" would be on a non-Julian Leap Year - in other words, March 1st, 2022.

One possible flaw in the logic: if Ulysses Grant was the last legitimately inaugurated POTUS (based on Sovereign Citizen doctrine), what about Trump's first term? Hmmm?

but it could also be March 1 of 2023 and 2024 as well, and those are all just other possible dates if it doesn't happen today

One possible flaw in the logic: if Ulysses Grant was the last legitimately inaugurated POTUS (based on Sovereign Citizen doctrine), what about Trump's first term? Hmmm?

that makes him the last of the Interregnum Leaders, and the one that led America back to legitimacy

you might say he's actually the FIRST of the new era, similar to....

https://i.imgur.com/AtLwODj.gif

JULIUS CAESAR

Okay, I'll accept that.

How about the French Revolutionary calendar? Is the Great Winnowing going to happen in Pluvôse?

Nah, Ventôse. Or maybe Brumaire. The ways of Q are mysterious.

https://i.imgur.com/rm6cDWE.png

Looks a bit like an Amway convention.

i should probably not google "patriot sunt el satana suntoo" right?

They have a branch in Romania, so you're onto something.

xp haha I think it's 'patriot sunt eu' (I am a patriot), 'Satana sunt ∞' (Satan are… the infinity sign? OO? I don't know what it's supposed to stand for here).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aerqIZ5aebE

It's really confusing because I can't find anything on the QAnon meaning of infinity aside for… 8chan aka ∞chan. So if '8chan are Satan' is what they're going for, well… totally, yeah.

death's head flags always a sign you're among good people

I don't know if this is from the same Shaman-guy interview that was posted yesterday, but I just saw a clip of him saying that a) Shamanism is all about creating positive vibrations in a sacred space like the Senate building, and b) he actually stopped someone from stealing some muffins on Jan. 6.

Wait, so he's the good guy in this whole thing?! Hmmmm...

In the midst of a muffin crisis, evidently.

Muffin Crisis <-----incroyable name for a band

There's going to be a Qruise pic.twitter.com/P9jnw8KObC

— Feminist Proper Gander (@dappergander) December 11, 2020

Come on norovirus, do your job.

Sorry but it was called off a few days later (check the date).

How disappointing. They'd have never gotten the Bud Light squirts out of the carpet.

Just heard my first "listener stories" ep of QAA and it was both terrifying and so, so sad

A Q cruise through the Bermuda Triangle sounds like something we need to send Patricia Lockwood on.

the Love Boeber
Soon will be making another run

A heavy but I’m sure very typical read.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/albertsamaha/qanon-parents-millennial-children

don't have the link handy but there's an entire subreddit collecting these stories now

Trump’s 4th of July speech at Mount Rushmore came to an end without John F. Kennedy Jr. revealing he was alive and stepping in as the president’s new running mate.

missed this one

unfortunately the paywall will prevent most from reading this, but it's the most relatable thing i've read on families that were destroyed by rightwing brain worms.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2021/disinformation-conspiracy-family/

here's the first few paragraphs

In a country where disinformation was spreading like a disease, Celina Knippling resolved to administer facts to her mom like medicine­. She and her four siblings could do nothing about the lies that had spread outward from Washington since Election Day, or the violence it had provoked. But maybe they could do something to stop dangerous political fantasies and extremism from metastasizing within their family. Maybe they could do something about Claire.

And so on one Saturday in February, Celina meticulously assembled a spreadsheet of every court case filed by former president Trump and his allies to contest the 2020 election. From her home outside Baltimore, she coded by date, state, case number and outcome. She analyzed how many lawsuits had been won, lost or dismissed and on what grounds. She broke down whether the presiding judges had been appointed by Democrats or Republicans.

Celina, 50, was not overly hopeful. She knew that her mom no longer trusted the mainstream media to tell the truth, nor the country’s democratic institutions to adjudicate an election she was certain had been stolen. It was her anti-Trump children, Claire Ryan contended, who were brainwashed.

Nevertheless, Celina gathered her spreadsheet and her notes and emailed them to Claire, 71, who lived in Maine with Celina’s stepfather. She had to know whom her mother trusted more: her own children, or strangers on the Internet.

She got her reply an hour later.

Claire suggested that Celina watch a video called “Absolute Proof” being promoted by MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell, one of the most visible proponents of the false narrative that the election had featured widespread voter fraud. The 120-minute-long video was hosted on a platform called Rumble and purported to reveal conclusive evidence that the 2020 election had been stolen from Trump. It repackaged claims that had already been disproved by the media and dismissed by the courts, which was spelled out in the exhaustive set of court filings and links Celina had sent her mom.

“Please share with everyone you know to save our country!” Lindell urged viewers on his personal website.

Celina lost her temper. It was bulls---, she said.

“Your response was to find some idiot’s video...and think that somehow that proves your point,” she wrote back. “I gave up my weekend to make sure you had access to see what real evidence and research looks like, and you somehow think a video is … what? Evidence? Proof?”

What Celina wrote as a closing rebuke: “You used to be smarter than this.”

What Celina had been thinking for months now but could not find a way to say: “I want my mom back. I’m terrified for her.”

* * *

“Your response was to find some idiot’s video...and think that somehow that proves your point,” she wrote back. “I gave up my weekend to make sure you had access to see what real evidence and research looks like, and you somehow think a video is … what? Evidence? Proof?”

this part in particular, (as well as several others in the story) is eerily similar to some of my experiences. there is a relentlessly horrifying feeling you get when a family members says something completely and obviously wrong, you spend a ton of time trying to prove it so conclusively that there can be no doubt, and then you get a link to the dumbest thing of all time as their response. it's a really sinking, awful feeling.

and this, many paragraphs later, the closing words:

Toward the end of February, Claire invited Laurie over to her house for coffee and scones. They did not talk about politics. Laurie urged Claire to get the coronavirus vaccine like she had just done, but Claire again declined.

They left it at that.

“It’s when we try to convince each other, that’s when things get so divisive,” Claire said. “There are videos, there are interviews that I find that are meaningful, but when I send them to the kids they get upset. So I’m not going to send them anymore.”

as a white midwesterner, i get that this kind of story is closer to my experience than for many others, but THAT is the most relatable thing i've read in several years

I've definitely had that experience of someome suggesting some video that makes lots of interesting points or whatever. My response at these days is to just shut them down immediately and make it clear that I have no interest or time to sit through someone's crackpot theories. I also point out that you can look up any topic you want on Google News and get dozens of articles across the political spectrum if you really are interested in sorting out fact from fiction on a given topic.

i had someone quote a Babylon Bee article at me and when I pointed out that it was not only satire but that the website actually labeled itself as satire, she replied "WHO ARE YOU TO SAY THIS IS SATIRE??? THIS IS REAL!"

What else did Sean Davis say

The satire is generally more real than the dull reality, it's true

this part in particular, (as well as several others in the story) is eerily similar to some of my experiences. there is a relentlessly horrifying feeling you get when a family members says something completely and obviously wrong, you spend a ton of time trying to prove it so conclusively that there can be no doubt, and then you get a link to the dumbest thing of all time as their response. it's a really sinking, awful feeling.

not a family member but a pretty good friend got deep into this fake outrage hellhole during the trump years and esp during the pandemic. he thinks I live in a city under siege by antia death squads or something and sometimes sends me obv bullshit that anyone with a normally functioning brain would be able to spot for what it is. I walked down to the supposed scene of a riot one time and snapped some pics. nothing had happened, of course. sunny day, people shopping and hanging out.

called him on it the next time he brought up some new nonsense. said something like "your sources are bad, you shouldn't trust them, here's an example that I personally disproved." but response was similar... he just found yet more videos from these garbage twitter accounts and sent me those. "maybe you didn't get there in time, windows can be repaired" etc. instead of, you know, just believing your friend that literally lives there and just sent you photo evidence.

shit sucks.

and this person used to have cool and weird hobbies that were a lot of fun to talk about! all of that now almost entirely displaced by... this updated and only barely different riff on... 'the war on xmas'? arghhh.

just like hobbies form part of your identity, so does associating with qAnon, except instead of becoming part of your identity, it IS your identity. and then they can't shut it off.

I hear their meaningless lives are imbued with meaning now.

except instead of becoming part of your identity, it IS your identity. and then they can't shut it off

yea, even when I try to talk about normal stuff and diffuse the politics, I can just tell he really wants to talk about whatever is going on in maga land at the moment instead. and I'll eventually get a link to, like... an article about how sacha baron cohen is a hypocrite or something, zzzzz

I hear their meaningless lives are imbued with meaning now.

Fighting for the redemption of the world, it's the same job as superheroes!

and the best superheroes are the ones that are also persecuted and not even thanked for their efforts

My mom has some...odd beliefs, but I'm blessed that I know absolutely no one that fits these profiles, or that I cut them off years ago.

https://www.reddit.com/r/qanoncasualties

for all your horrifying QAnon testimonial needs

Am I naive to ask if this level of delusion is unprecedented in human history?

One I cut off years ago was a high school friend. He exists in the area where left-wing hippie spirituality shit mixes with libertarian anti-vaxx racism. Judging by his open profiles on the internet, he's still on that beat.

Sad. I used to love getting stoned and listening to dub with him.

Halfway, I mean...not to sound glib, but there are billions of people who believe in a literal skydad.

Yes, but most religious people have been able to reconcile belief and reality to the extent that they could exist in society with those who didn't believe.

Am I naive to ask if this level of delusion is unprecedented in human history?

Remember the Children’s Crusade?

Sure, and that turned out OK! No worries.

I think the difference between generic SkyDad belief and Q cultism (or any such niche belief) is that a lot of people grow up within SkyDad belief systems and just accept them as the natural way of the world — which is easy to do, when the majority of other people you interact with also adhere to some version of SkyDadism. Whereas with Q, you have to really do the work — do the research! — to get immersed, it's not going to just happen passively. (Although algorithms I guess allow it happen somewhat passively. But you still have to click and keep clicking.)

don't worry we'll have entire Q households with second generations of Q pilled weirdos before long

'God-Emperor' will no longer be a metaphor a couple of generations from now.

most religious people have been able to reconcile belief and reality to the extent that they could exist in society with those who didn't believe.

don't know if that's historically accurate

There have definitely been instances of greater mass delusion but they mostly belong to an era before rationality (or at least some half-hearted simulacrum thereof) became a primary driver of human society. Like back when the execution of suspected witches was an everyday thing.

I feel bad for the people who take all the time to meticulously assemble counter-cases like the one above, but that’s not really how you change someone’s belief system, is it?

If you try to directly attack a closely held belief that someone forms part of their identity without addressing the underlying belief(s) that supports that one and giving them a more cogent replacement, they’re just going to re-cement their belief in deeper.

Like back when the execution of suspected witches was an everyday thing.

Pfft, implying Trump wasn't the victim of the greatest witch hunt in the history of America.

Who needs QAnon when you've got Sabmyk?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/mar/20/revealed-man-behind-fast-growing-cult-becoming-the-new-qanon-sabmyk-network

Ok I havent read this thread but did scan it; anyone watching the Qanon doc on HBO? Two episodes so far and lengthy time spent in the home of JIm Watkins and his son. Jesus christ these people are weird. Dude who started 8chan (hotwheels) seems like a paragon of normality compared to both of them.

Meanwhile, what’s really on that ship ????

https://www.vice.com/en/article/dy8n9q/suez-canal-qanon-cargo-ship-conspiracies-are-getting-wild

ark of the covenant

We've watched I think almost three episodes of the doc. Like most of these things it's a little too padded out but it's ok. Works as well as a doc about the seedier, grosser side of the internet and the people that keep it running and, to a lesser extent, why they do that. It's telling that this Q bullshit is so connected to 8chan, but many the interviewed Q adherents claim to avoid 8chan if not outright claim not to even know what kind of cesspool it is. Lot of compartmentalization going on.

I watched the first episode. I feel like I've listened to enough of the QAA podcast that I'm not learning anything.

We just made it to episode 4, where it shifts from hypothesizing one of the Watkins is behind it all, to ... Bannon. Unless that is the younger Watkins misdirecting attention to protect himself.

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/prowrestling/images/b/b8/StanLane.jpg

Boebert's biological dad (allegedly)

Good read

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/scaachikoul/qanon-believers-turning-away-from-trump

I feel like a certain amount of the driver for phenomena like QAnon has to just be boredom. Like the impulse to believe that there's a hidden world underlying the world in front of you must partly come from a sense that the world in front of you is hopelessly banal and dreary.

I've definitely seen that argument more than a few places. It makes a certain sense.

Who knew we’d be nostalgic for valium

Hey babe, tale a walk on the Q side

https://www.rawstory.com/qanon-suez-canal/

re: the article Ned linked above, I really don't get how Obama voters could've deluded themselves into following Q to vote for Trump. It always seemed to me that most Q followers were just Trump supporters looking for moral cover because Trump was so obviously terrible. Like, yeah, he's bad, but he's going to take down something much, much worse going on in the deep state.

But then they go on about how Trump is connected to Q through the number 17 because Q is the 17th letter of the alphabet, and he said that he visited DC exactly 17 times before he was elected, such a detail must mean something! And they immediately follow that by saying that they can't support Biden because he reversed 17 of Trump's executive orders that afternoon. Hello? 17 is your magic number, dummy, shouldn't that mean that Biden is taking up the Q mantle? But no, for some reason it only works for Trump.

I find it hard to believe that these people would've been Biden voters if only they hadn't started tying everyday coincidences into a framework that demands Trump as president forever. Wanting Trump as president forever seems like it would've been starting point of their Q journey, whether they realized it or not before jumping on board, it doesn't make any sense that they just ended up there as the destination.

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What was it??

Filmmaker doing a reddit AMA right now. One of the first exchanges:

mjayultra
51 minutes ago
What does Jim Watkins smell like

cullenhoback
14 minutes ago
Sweat

Finished the doc, was pretty entertaining, if only as a chronicle of the evolution of the seedier corners of the internet. Also, I think maybe the ... fourth thing I've seen this year that ends with the arrival of the pandemic?

Hey guys... got some tats I need to change. Any ideas? pic.twitter.com/70d2dBTr5J

— Quello Holbeck (@HolbeckDavid) April 7, 2021

https://i.redd.it/lyl9ieiumdc61.jpg

yea this was good, highly bingeable & i am trusting of hbo's docs & what they choose to buy/air/produce whataver

ron watkins reminds me of my finacee's cousin whos a p cool guy

Goddammit, I used to like this guy. Person of Interest was a great show.

Actor Jim Caviezel appeared at a right-wing COVID conspiracy theorist conference yesterday and promoted the QAnon blood-harvesting conspiracy theory (https://t.co/9RgU0ORDVI) about "the adrenochroming of children." (clip 1/2) pic.twitter.com/JZWxpFbjFY

— Eric Hananoki (@ehananoki) April 17, 2021

I'd always heard he was a right-wing religious zealot, going back to when he played Jesus in Mel Gibson's tortureporn Passion.

Yeah, I thought he was a known quantity. And Barry Pepper? I always got those two confused, not because they look like but because they're in the same sorts of shitty movies.

I knew he was politically conservative and super Catholic. I did not know he was insane.

ah ok barry pepper just put a name to face I've seen many times

Jim Caviezel once read a book about Navy SEALs and cried so hard the only way to cheer up was buying himself a sick Mustang to honor the troops pic.twitter.com/P9sUBGmAmS

— My Name is Philip (@sallutephilipe) April 17, 2021

good lord. didn't know about the adrenochrome conspiracy theory

aiui, the adrenochrome conspiracy theory was an early offshoot of the Q-Anon foundational mythos, springing up soon after the "pizzagate" and "soul cookery" conspiracy lunacy. because everyone knows that if a little taste of lunacy is good, then consuming slop buckets full of totally batshit lunacy is 100x better!

Adrenochrome treatments 100% covered under BidenCare.

Caviezel is a shit actor

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_libel

this madness is over a millennia old

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-04-17/mother-unraveled-in-depression-qanon-style-conspiracies-in-months-before-she-killed-3-kids

horrible.