At the risk of stating the obvious, the July 2019 US Politics Thread is horse-sh*t

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shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 1 July 2019 15:36 (four years ago) link

great news: the current U.S. economic expansion (defined as number of months without a recession) is now the longest on record!

121 months: June 2009 to present

that eclipses the previous record, 120 months, from March 1991 to March 2001.

OUR ECONOMY IS INVINCIBLE!

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Monday, 1 July 2019 15:45 (four years ago) link

economy: thriving
concentration camps: full of dead kids
hell yeah, it's #trump2020 time

coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 July 2019 15:48 (four years ago) link

Some guy was on NPR yesterday morning saying the recession indicators are 100% in place

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 July 2019 15:50 (four years ago) link

looking forward to President Saggy Pants blaming the democrats for the inevitable recession

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 1 July 2019 16:02 (four years ago) link

He inherited Obama's recession

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 1 July 2019 16:05 (four years ago) link

everyone, shift your investment strategy to full recession-exploitation mode! west coast office, i want you to move 60% of portfolio to whatever investment trick christian bale uses in the Big Short. Update it for the current year please! East coast, I need30% in gold bars. Shiny gold bars, buried 10 feet deep in a secret location! make sure at least 2 people know about the secret location, in case someone dies. Great lakes team, i'm gonna need 8% of portfolio in investment R&D - how can we rub all of this hedge money together to make more money? it takes money to make money - well we have money, so let's get on to the making money part! i will be taking the final 2% for a personal holiday. may our great american empire reign for 10,000 years!

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Monday, 1 July 2019 16:09 (four years ago) link

blaming the democrats for the inevitable recession

oh it won't just be big baby boy and the RW media doing that.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 1 July 2019 16:13 (four years ago) link

I'd also like to point out that injecting our economy with corporate tax cut rocket fuel has only gotten us 3% growth as opposed to the 5-6% bullshit that was being spewed at the time. I guess we need to cut interest rates to 0?

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 1 July 2019 16:16 (four years ago) link

Good morning!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 July 2019 16:17 (four years ago) link

one thing I really liked in the debates was Kamala basically saying who gives a fuck how well the stock market is doing if you aren't in a position to actually own stock.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 1 July 2019 16:30 (four years ago) link

You know you're a terrible person when both the Dalai Lama and Jimmy Carter feel compelled to talk about what a horrible piece of shit you are.

— Nathan Rabin (@nathanrabin) June 29, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 July 2019 16:31 (four years ago) link

meanwhile in alaska, republican governor mike dunleavy has used a line-item veto to cut the state's funding of the university of alaska by https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/education/2019/06/28/dunleavy-veto-is-devastating-says-university-of-alaska-president/35m, or 41%, which is likely to result in the loss of 1300 full-time faculty and staff positions.

if you are wondering what other institutions of higher education are available in alaska, well, there's almost nothing else.

apart from creating a brain drain out of alaska, i suspect this will also affect climate research to some extent

mookieproof, Monday, 1 July 2019 17:00 (four years ago) link

oops

mookieproof, Monday, 1 July 2019 17:01 (four years ago) link

fact checkin'

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-aDMzTU4AA-F8T.png

mookieproof, Monday, 1 July 2019 17:42 (four years ago) link

lol what the fuck

Vape Store (crüt), Monday, 1 July 2019 17:45 (four years ago) link

"lmaooooo so those three actually own more than 70% if u think abt it. anyway jeff bezos is a great dude and im v glad he owns this paper along with our futures."

hollow your fart (m bison), Monday, 1 July 2019 17:45 (four years ago) link

It's weird Bernie screwed up so bad.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 1 July 2019 17:48 (four years ago) link

what

the

fuck

coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 July 2019 17:48 (four years ago) link

A person with $250 in net assets has 25 as much times wealth as a person with +$10 in net assets.

A person with $250 in net assets has __ as much times wealth as a person with negative $10 in net assets.

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Monday, 1 July 2019 17:52 (four years ago) link

So the comparison is not especially meaningful.

Translation courtesy of Google (tm):

Because the peasants always live hand to mouth, have zero savings, do not even own the miserable huts in which they live, and owe more on their remaining possessions than they would be worth if sold, it becomes necessary to lump them in with a considerable number of middle class people with modest wealth, before their "negative wealth" is sufficiently offset to be able to compare the resulting aggregate with the ultra super rich, who control most of the nation's wealth.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 1 July 2019 18:00 (four years ago) link

if u say so Yam

That’s right, The Trump Foundation gave away 100% plus, with Zero rent or expenses charged, and has been being sued by Cuomo and New York State for years - another part of the political Witch Hunt. Just in case anyone is interested - Clinton Foundation never even looked at!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 1, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 July 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link

In a court filing, Ted Cruz says the rule that he can withdraw only $250,000 from his campaign is like telling “Rosa Parks [to sit] in the back of the bus.” pic.twitter.com/NeFwGf3511

— Adav Noti (@AdavNoti) July 1, 2019

mookieproof, Monday, 1 July 2019 18:28 (four years ago) link

that WaPo "fact checker" previously said Bernie was being misleading when he said that millions of Americans had to work extra jobs to make a living, because there are only 8 million Americans working more than one job and that's just 5% of the workforce so who cares, right?

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 1 July 2019 18:38 (four years ago) link

sounds like their fact checker is as rigorous as the White House's

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 July 2019 18:43 (four years ago) link

can't believe these fine patriots turned out to be horrible people

https://splinternews.com/members-of-secret-border-patrol-facebook-group-mocked-d-1836015342

frogbs, Monday, 1 July 2019 18:44 (four years ago) link

U.S. Border Patrol Chief Carla Provost called the Facebook posts “completely inappropriate” and said any employees found to have violated CBP’s Standards of Conduct would be “held accountable.”

Belching during the sermon is "inappropriate". Giving an employee a poor mark in their annual review is "holding them accountable". Those Facebook posts were blatantly racist garbage aimed at the very people they wield power over, and should result in their immediate firing.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 1 July 2019 18:57 (four years ago) link

And flogging

Got your butt drank (Neanderthal), Monday, 1 July 2019 19:12 (four years ago) link

Just in case anyone is interested

noooooope

nashwan, Monday, 1 July 2019 19:19 (four years ago) link

“It’ll be like no other. I’m going to say a few words and we’re going to have planes going overhead, the best fighter jets in the world, and other planes, too. And we’re going to have some tanks stationed outside. You’ve got to be pretty careful with the tanks, because the roads have a tendency not to like to carry heavy tanks. So we have to put them in certain areas, but we have the brand new Sherman tanks and we have the brand new Abrams tanks.

“And we have some incredible equipment, military equipment on display — brand new. And we’re very proud of it. You know we’re making a lot of new tanks right now. we’re building a lot of new tanks in Lima, Ohio — our great tank factory that people wanted to close down until I got elected and I stopped it from being closed down, and now it’s a very productive facility and they do, it’s the greatest tank in the world.”

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 00:12 (four years ago) link

"The Best, Jerry--The Best!"

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 00:18 (four years ago) link

This was in fact the type of toilet we saw in the cell.

Except there was just one, and the sink portion was not functioning - @AyannaPressley smartly tried to open the faucet, and nothing came out.

So the women were told they could drink out of the bowl. https://t.co/rcu9Rt6B2x

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) July 1, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 00:21 (four years ago) link

Boston's own

Rep. Ayanna Pressley: "I learned a long time ago that when change happens it's either because people see the light or they feel the fire.

"We're lifting up these stories in the hopes that you will see the light. And if you don't, we will bring the fire." https://t.co/nlBLDXa7Cs pic.twitter.com/98XCO5embR

— ABC News Politics (@ABCPolitics) July 1, 2019

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 05:47 (four years ago) link

This is some freaky sounding shit Trump and Tucker are talking...https://t.co/NTmtmXRViQ

— Jeffrey St. Clair (@JSCCounterPunch) July 2, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 12:06 (four years ago) link

“It’s a phenomena that started two years ago,” Trump said, drawing a connection between the beginning of this and the early days of his time in the White House. “It’s disgraceful.”

The numbers of homeless people in the United States has stayed relatively level in the three years between 2016 and 2018, ticking up from 550,000 to 553,000 last year. But these numbers represent a significant drop over the past decade. An average of 630,000 people experienced homelessness per year between 2007 and 2012, according to federal data. And an average of 580,000 people were homeless a year between 2012 and 2015.

The president went on at some length, painting a dark picture of life in some American cities without giving specifics for how he would address the issue.

“Police officers are getting sick just by walking the beat,” he claimed. “We cannot ruin our cities. And you have people that work in those cities. They work in office buildings and to get into the building, they have to walk through a scene that nobody would have believed possible three years ago."

“We have to take the people,” he said. “And we have to do something.”

so uhh he's claiming things have gotten worse with him in the white house?

coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 12:15 (four years ago) link

he'd say he's not mayor

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 12:32 (four years ago) link

he’s like the worst guy on nextdoor

maura, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 13:00 (four years ago) link

Heard "this is what he's best at, planning a show, he's a showman" on the news this morning. Ok, so shutting down Reagan International airport with military flyovers and threatening the structural integrity of the Lincoln memorial with "the latest" tanks from WWII is him at his best? Happy Birthday America.

BrianB, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 13:27 (four years ago) link

i mean it probably is him at his best, or at least his most actively destructive - i'd much rather he spent all his energy on playing elaborate games with his military toys on home soil than building more concentration camps or glassing the middle east

coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 13:31 (four years ago) link

his least actively destructive, i mean

coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 13:31 (four years ago) link

At his best, this marketing genius calls an 80 year old tank the latest military technology, I mean, c'mon.

BrianB, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 13:39 (four years ago) link

So this secret CBP FB group.

I just can't

Fuck Trump, cops, and the CBP (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 13:58 (four years ago) link

no it's cool, the cbp have promised that 'any employees found to have violated our standards of conduct will be held accountable' so they'll probably suffer awful consequences up to and including paid leave

coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 14:03 (four years ago) link

And being called "bad apples", the ignominy

Fuck Trump, cops, and the CBP (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 14:08 (four years ago) link

weird how often people forget the 'spoils the whole bunch' part of that phrase huh

coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 14:10 (four years ago) link

9,500 bad apples

mott the hoopleheads (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 14:12 (four years ago) link

and the rest of the CBP is prob just annoyed they weren't invited to the group

mott the hoopleheads (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 14:12 (four years ago) link

CPB looking like quite the accountable upstanding outfit with that and reports from members of Congress about the overall conditions and treatment from the officers on the border.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 14:15 (four years ago) link

yeah but one of those members of congress used to be a bartender

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 14:16 (four years ago) link

good thing the senate are only approving an extra $4.59 billion for their efforts to humiliate, torture and murder asylum seekers

coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 14:18 (four years ago) link

I have three people on FB who posted this idiot meme about how the border crisis is all the Dems fault because they won't approve more funds for toddler jail and man do I get heavy domestic violence "look what you MADE me do" vibes from it

frogbs, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 14:30 (four years ago) link

these fucking monsters will whinge about how actually the camps were set up under obama or how the lack of toothbrushes or food or fresh water is down to budget problems all day every day and never think twice about actually changing things long past the point where the asylum seeker concentration camps have become overt death camps rather than the covert death camps they are now

coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 14:39 (four years ago) link

good luck usa

coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 14:40 (four years ago) link

Those apples gave me the shits for weeks, thank you mr grocer

Fuck Trump, cops, and the CBP (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 14:46 (four years ago) link

I guess you can't expect better from the agency we send all our bastards, rapists and disgraced nobility

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 14:52 (four years ago) link

so apparently there are protests against the camps both today and Friday the 12th

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 15:00 (four years ago) link

WASHINGTON — President Trump’s re-election campaign and the Republican National Committee on Tuesday said they had raised $105 million in the second quarter of this year, dwarfing what President Barack Obama raised in the equivalent period during his re-election campaign.

The campaign and the R.N.C. said they had a combined $100 million in cash on hand, and that they had raised more money online in the second quarter than in the first half of 2018. The staggering total figure can be plowed into television and digital advertising, get-out-the-vote efforts and other activities related to the 2020 election.

Mr. Trump and his committees raised $54 million, they said, and the R.N.C. raised $51 million. The campaign officials did not say how many individual donors had contributed, or how many gave money in increments of $200 or less. The official report, which will include spending, will be filed with the Federal Election Commission on July 15.

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 15:14 (four years ago) link

a spectre is haunting the republican national committee

coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 15:15 (four years ago) link

the tax cuts are working!

hollow your fart (m bison), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 15:17 (four years ago) link

money laundering for everyone

maura, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 15:26 (four years ago) link

I will restate that border patrol and ICE applicants that I did background checks for 3 years on were by far the worst category of people that needed security clearances. All seemed to not be able to maintain jobs and their ex-spouses/other parent of child(s) all tried to avoid me interviewing them.

Yerac, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 15:33 (four years ago) link

I don't really understand what campaign $$ does for Trump. Everyone knows about him. Everyone either loathes him or worships him.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 15:52 (four years ago) link

They just want people to know he raised more money than Obama.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 15:56 (four years ago) link

don't they lay out an obscene amount for Facebook ads?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 15:58 (four years ago) link

someday i would like to hear about all the jobs yerac has had

mookieproof, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:00 (four years ago) link

don't they lay out an obscene amount for Facebook ads? Russian Hackers

Fixed.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:02 (four years ago) link

House Ways & Means Com'tee suing to get the taxes btw

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:02 (four years ago) link

raging against the NY AG this morning hmmmm

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:09 (four years ago) link

Fuck you i won't tweet what you tell me

Fuck Trump, cops, and the CBP (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:11 (four years ago) link

TANKS ON PARADE!!!!!!

j., Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:34 (four years ago) link

Some of them that plan parades . . . are the same that stage raids.
Some of them that plan parades . . . are the same that stage raids.

nickn, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:37 (four years ago) link

yo it's time for raytheon

Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 16:42 (four years ago) link

Why is it left to @AOC and @RashidaTlaib to do this? Where the hell are @SpeakerPelosi, @LeaderHoyer and @RepJeffries? Be useful or get out of the way– https://t.co/vZwgPi0mAN

— Chase Madar (@ChaseMadar) July 2, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link

Pence had to cancel a trip to New Hampshire to return to the White House on basically no notice. The administration, which never ever lies and specifically never ever says the exact opposite of the truth, offered this answer to a question nobody had asked:

"This has absolutely nothing to do with the health" of @POTUS or @VP, a senior administration official tells @VOANews.

— Steve Herman (@W7VOA) July 2, 2019

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link

please naturally die

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 17:27 (four years ago) link

donnie's dying wish was to visit north korea

hollow your fart (m bison), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 17:31 (four years ago) link

I wonder if two Asian women hugged him in the meeting room there...

nickn, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 17:35 (four years ago) link

could be the best 4th ever

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link

I wonder if the Q Anon thing is finally going down

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link

oppo dump, surely

Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 17:49 (four years ago) link

before we all get too excited let us recall that you cannot kill what does not live

coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 17:50 (four years ago) link

TRUMP CHUMP TAKES FATAL DUMP

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link

The Trump White House is forever this tweet.

My "Not involved in human trafficking" T-shirt has people asking a lot of questions already answered by my shirt.

— Mike Ginn (@shutupmikeginn) November 21, 2013

Did Ivanka go with him

nashwan, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 17:52 (four years ago) link

BREAKING: Office of the Inspector General releases new pictures of overcrowding at Border Patrol Facilities in TX. One senior manager calling this a “ticking time bomb.” #Immigration #ICE @NBCNews pic.twitter.com/bQdde1LYmB

— Gadi Schwartz (@GadiNBC) July 2, 2019

mookieproof, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 18:02 (four years ago) link

HUGE CENSUS NEWS — the Government just advised that the decision has been made to print the the census questionnaire WITHOUT the citizenship question. We won.

— Daniel Jacobson (@Dan_F_Jacobson) July 2, 2019


Here’s the email from DOJ pic.twitter.com/PdyfK0a1hJ

— Daniel Jacobson (@Dan_F_Jacobson) July 2, 2019

?!

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 20:50 (four years ago) link

bout time

hollow your fart (m bison), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 20:52 (four years ago) link

those border patrol custody pictures are very disturbing

Dan S, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 21:01 (four years ago) link

they’re absolutely fucking disgusting

these people are being locked up in these utterly inhuman conditions for committing a misdemeanor

coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 21:06 (four years ago) link

A misdemeanor that used to be handled as a civil matter and not criminal.

Fuck Trump, cops, and the CBP (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 21:39 (four years ago) link

As I’ve said previously, the opposing nominee’s campaign should consult with a team of psychologists and psychiatrists to figure out how to do precisely this. It shouldn’t be too hard to trigger the final meltdown. https://t.co/EaAzGFoCef

— George Conway (@gtconway3d) July 2, 2019

once again, there must be some interesting dinners at the Conway residence.

omar little, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 16:04 (four years ago) link

Their life's work is to engage with bullshit like nothing matters, so I'm guessing dinner with them would be both boring and dispiriting.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 16:12 (four years ago) link

lack of civility strikes again

I have informed the HKennedy Sch that I am turning down its offer as Snr Res Fellow. It would have been exciting to share my experiences, both positive and negative; our current political environment and its lack of civility makes this too disruptive. I wish them the best.

— Rick Snyder (@onetoughnerd) July 3, 2019

mookieproof, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 16:52 (four years ago) link

“it’s not that i was derelict, it’s the MEANIES”

maura, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 17:12 (four years ago) link

i feel like the only just way to offer rick snyder a job is to stipulate in his contract that the only thing he's allowed to drink, use in the bathroom, or swim in at company retreats is poisoned water from flint (outside water strictly prohibited, a violation of which results in immediate termination or guillotine)

hollow your fart (m bison), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 17:19 (four years ago) link

The News Reports about the Department of Commerce dropping its quest to put the Citizenship Question on the Census is incorrect or, to state it differently, FAKE! We are absolutely moving forward, as we must, because of the importance of the answer to this question.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 3, 2019

lol wut ? so what is that department email up there ? FAKE NEWSES

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link

the confusion is infuriating because at some level, that's exactly the point - attack the media at every opportunity in order to destroy trust. usually, the Fake News thing quickly splits everyone into camps of truth, depending on whether the news consumer thinks that Fox/Breitbart are legitimate news organizations or not. but in situations like this, the truth itself becomes muddy. it may very well be true that trump is still pushing for the citizenship question. he may have made one decision one day and another decision the next. he could have changed his mind. he could be just straight up lying, again.

it all gets tossed into the brew of confusion

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 17:31 (four years ago) link

he also takes obvious delight in heightened ability to change some facts at his whim, as president. he can see a truthful news account from an organization that doesn't like, and then change things behind the scenes so that the story is different, even in a deeply misleading way, then go on the attack about the Fake News getting it wrong.

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 17:33 (four years ago) link

But hey Kaepernick hates flag sneakers

Fuck Trump, cops, and the CBP (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link

he could have changed be out of his mind.

confusementalism (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 18:16 (four years ago) link

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pocahontas TM 43ppl issues: Pres Trump Kavanaugh confirmation small refinery waivers tariffs USMCA rural health care electoral college min wage drug prices shld b on tv ads big tech Medicare climate change robocalls ethanol/e15 yr round <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/99CountyMeeetings?src=hash&;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#99CountyMeeetings</a></p>— ChuckGrassley (@ChuckGrassley) <a href="

Pocahontas TM 43ppl issues: Pres Trump Kavanaugh confirmation small refinery waivers tariffs USMCA rural health care electoral college min wage drug prices shld b on tv ads big tech Medicare climate change robocalls ethanol/e15 yr round #99CountyMeeetings

— ChuckGrassley (@ChuckGrassley) July 3, 2019

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Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 18:24 (four years ago) link

is that English

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link

at least pocahantas is a county in iowa and it's not about warren

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link

looks like grassley got a briefing on SEO and thought it applied to his twitter posts too

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link

wow, livetweeting a stroke, we have gone too far

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 18:31 (four years ago) link

I think what he's trying to say is that he, personally, didn't start the fire.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 18:32 (four years ago) link

lol

Vape Store (crüt), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 18:36 (four years ago) link

there's something genuinely upsetting about that extra 'e' in the hashtag

rob, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 18:57 (four years ago) link

elect to transformer

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 19:03 (four years ago) link

Speaking of dumb people potentially dying, did they ever figure out why pence I spent a year working on the meeting minutes from that town meeting, and Grassley just...tweeted it out

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 19:03 (four years ago) link

Uh whoops, that was the remnants of a previous post I had abandoned, combined with my sick grassley burn

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 19:04 (four years ago) link

post was Grassley-worthy

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 19:05 (four years ago) link

He is my god dad

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link

so trump's taking credit for getting the SEAL off the hook??

Like A Turrican (stevie), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link

small blessings

Breaking News: Prosecutors dropped a manslaughter charge against an Alabama woman whose fetus died when she was shot in the abdomen https://t.co/YykkX8Hs3Q

— The New York Times (@nytimes) July 3, 2019

mookieproof, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 19:44 (four years ago) link

I think what he's trying to say is that he, personally, didn't start the fire.

Work on farm Fri. Burning piles of brush WindyFire got out of control. Thank God for good naber He help get undr control PantsBurnLegWound

— ChuckGrassley (@ChuckGrassley) April 11, 2009

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 19:50 (four years ago) link

so trump's taking credit for getting the SEAL off the hook??

off the hook for what, murdering Iraqi children is not a crime in this country

frogbs, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link

i beg your pardon?

(that's what he said, before he didn't even convicted except for the whole "took a picture with a dead guy" thing, which he got 4 months for)

respect the troops, go united states

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 20:02 (four years ago) link

Right, and he got off in part because of surprise testimony from another dude who claimed that he saw Gallagher stab the prisoner and so he killed the guy as an act of mercy? Which doesn’t seem like testimony that should get you off scot-free? Anyway fuck this country.

JoeStork, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 20:57 (four years ago) link

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/07/border-patrols-oversight-sick-migrant-children/593224/

Feels like the strongest action that any groups are taking at this point is holding up CLOSE THE CAMPS signs over the freeway. Idk the airport protests seemed pretty effective in 2017?

JoeStork, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 21:01 (four years ago) link

HUGE CENSUS NEWS — the Government just advised that the decision has been made to print the the census questionnaire WITHOUT the citizenship question. We won.

— Daniel Jacobson (@Dan_F_Jacobson) July 2, 2019

less than 24 hours later, DOJ has announced that they are now trying to add the census question again because trump ordered them to figure it out

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 21:44 (four years ago) link

maybe they can just print the normal census and then make little postcards with the extra citizenship on them. bundle it all up in a little manila envelope

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 21:45 (four years ago) link

sneak peek of tomorrow in DC (only in Italian with Santa Claus)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFBLrYC2BDk

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 23:27 (four years ago) link

i plan to celebrate by being online and talking a bunch of trash about america. people just eat it up

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 23:29 (four years ago) link

i usually end up a little tipsy and making wavy flag gifs at the same time, it's one of my favorite holidays

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 23:29 (four years ago) link

"The tweet this morning was the first I had heard of the President's position on this issue, just like the plaintiffs and your honor," Gardener told the judge.
"I do not have a deeper understanding of what that means at this juncture other than what the President has tweeted," he said, adding, "I am doing my absolute best to figure out what is going on."

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 4 July 2019 00:29 (four years ago) link

https://www.tvinsider.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/fireworks2.png

maura, Thursday, 4 July 2019 00:38 (four years ago) link

lol

Dan S, Thursday, 4 July 2019 00:42 (four years ago) link

so just to get this straight. trump's obviously racist and anti-democratic attempt to add the citizenship question to the census was unsuccessful only because he made it too obvious that the purpose of adding it was "contrived" (according to chief roberts). but in so doing, he left the door open for trump to get the question in at some point - it was almost an invitation to make a more convincing show of "enforcing the Voting Rights Act" and keep the shenanigans to a minimum.

then, a few days later, the DOJ suddenly announces they're not going to add the question to the census, that they're going to print with it.

then, the president just tells them to add the question to the census, so they stop the presses (literally?) and reverse. what trump just did was beyond "contrived", it was just a plain order.

wtf is going on here

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Thursday, 4 July 2019 01:09 (four years ago) link

not to mention the dead asshole GOP strategist guy whose daughter shared all of secret asshole GOP strategy documents about how great it was going to be to turbogerrymander the country by fucking over immigrants and the only major political party that isn't directly attacking them under the guise of "strengthening the voting rights act"

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Thursday, 4 July 2019 01:12 (four years ago) link

“looking for a path forward” is one thing, but openly defying a supreme court decision would mean we’re officially living in a dictatorship

Dan S, Thursday, 4 July 2019 01:15 (four years ago) link

the best case scenario is that this ends with trump angrily firing wilbur ross for letting him down or whatever

there are a lot of bad scenarios. hopefully tucker carlson can talk some sense into him

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Thursday, 4 July 2019 01:20 (four years ago) link

(^^^I MEAN, HOW FUCKING STUPID IS THIS UNIVERSE RIGHT NOW^^^

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Thursday, 4 July 2019 01:20 (four years ago) link

Democratic source says @MelindaKatz is AHEAD of @CabanForQueens by 20 votes.

Final count has now been completed, including absentee ballots and affidavits.

This will likely trigger a full recount.

— Zack Fink (@ZackFinkNews) July 4, 2019

Simon H., Thursday, 4 July 2019 01:42 (four years ago) link

Hoping for rain and thunderstorms in DC tonight

curmudgeon, Thursday, 4 July 2019 16:36 (four years ago) link

that one republican guy who supports impeachment (Rep. Justin Amash - MI) has left the republican party.

In a Washington Post op-ed that scorned Democrats and Republicans alike, Amash lamented a broken two-party system and a Congress that exists “as little more than a formality to legitimize outcomes dictated by the president, the speaker of the House and the Senate majority leader.”

“We owe it to future generations to stand up for our constitutional republic so that Americans may continue to live free for centuries to come,” he said. “Preserving liberty means telling the Republican Party and the Democratic Party that we’ll no longer let them play their partisan game at our expense.”

both sides

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Thursday, 4 July 2019 16:58 (four years ago) link

dude is a horrible libertarian

akm, Thursday, 4 July 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link

Have you ever met a good one???

Yerac, Thursday, 4 July 2019 17:10 (four years ago) link

Happy 4th btw.

https://i.imgur.com/B1cLMzv.gifv

pomenitul, Thursday, 4 July 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link

Let's try that again:

https://i.imgur.com/B1cLMzv.gifv

pomenitul, Thursday, 4 July 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link

Just gonna paste the link then:

https://i.imgur.com/B1cLMzv.gifv

pomenitul, Thursday, 4 July 2019 17:42 (four years ago) link

Hoping for rain and thunderstorms in DC tonight

Dark clouds over the Mall right now. Last forecast I saw called for thunderstorms around 6pm.

Anne Hedonia (j.lu), Thursday, 4 July 2019 18:24 (four years ago) link

osita is following trump's big party, good thread and i imagine it will get better and better

Posted up along the Reflecting Pool for Trump's event. It's 90° and this thing doesn't start until the evening. But some folks are already here. pic.twitter.com/DgW2bKKsjv

— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) July 4, 2019

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 4 July 2019 18:33 (four years ago) link

President Lincoln has arrived at the Mall with a rap about Jesus Christ. pic.twitter.com/YpLxb1S4PJ

— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) July 4, 2019

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 4 July 2019 18:53 (four years ago) link

It's 90° and this thing doesn't start until the evening. But some folks are already here.

this is happening at fireworks displays all across America tbf

Vape Store (crüt), Thursday, 4 July 2019 19:02 (four years ago) link

they should allow people to swim in the reflecting pool

Vape Store (crüt), Thursday, 4 July 2019 19:04 (four years ago) link

Folks this is not an autocracy this is a small time car dealership owner having a party with his buddies and offering test drives https://t.co/H3Dfwqj1zM

— 12 Russians in a spring 🌸 trenchcoat (@HorridHenryVIII) July 4, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 July 2019 19:26 (four years ago) link

So, are they going to parade or just be there for the in-crowd to ogle?
Possibly cause less damage if they do remain stationary iof course.
But how would t get his macho display.

Stevolende, Thursday, 4 July 2019 19:41 (four years ago) link

they should allow people to swim in the reflecting pool
― Vape Store (crüt), Thursday, July 4, 2019 2:04 PM (fifty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

https://i.imgur.com/VQJ7Jrw.jpg

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 4 July 2019 19:55 (four years ago) link

v cool of dan crenshaw to cosplay as the villain from last action hero for independence day

pic.twitter.com/SE3g5QCiIJ

— Dan Crenshaw (@DanCrenshawTX) July 4, 2019

coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 5 July 2019 07:12 (four years ago) link

today at 2 pm eastern we find out whether they're really going to try to add the citizenship census question or not

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Friday, 5 July 2019 15:03 (four years ago) link

just wanted to kick off today's posts with a seismic piece of info

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Friday, 5 July 2019 15:03 (four years ago) link

“There must be a million of us,” said Ron Beauchemin, 53, hyperbolizing as he swept his eyes over the crowd streaming through security, and lined up 90 deep at a nearby hot-dog stand.

Mr. Beauchemin and his wife, Crystal, 56, who own a moving business, had come up from Sarasota, Fla., for the weekend, accompanied by Darlene Izzo, a 53-year-old accountant from Sanibel Island, whom they had met at a Trump rally.

“God sent Darlene to me,” Ms. Beauchemin said. The group had chipped in on a $25 Chick-fil-A gift card for Mr. Trump, and planned to deliver it during a White House tour they had booked for Friday. “He likes burgers and fast food,” Mr. Beauchemin said.

“I have three sons in the Marines, and I wanted to bring my grandchildren to the White House,” Ms. Beauchemin said. But she left them at home, afraid of anti-Trump demonstrators “hitting people with crowbars and throwing cement on them,” she said.

hey everyone i heard there's a PARTY AT THE BEAUCHEMINS ON SATURDAY

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Friday, 5 July 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link

let us head to the july 4 salute to expensive airplanes while our grandchildren fight the anarcho-communists who hitting people with crowbars and throwing cement. come, spouse. let us print out our chick-fil-A gift card we bought for the president at Kinkos before we begin the drive north to the rally

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Friday, 5 July 2019 15:11 (four years ago) link

I'm going to Sanibel in two weeks! I'll hit Darlene up.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 July 2019 15:12 (four years ago) link

god sent Darlene to me because of my good political views. we are gonna fuck all night

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Friday, 5 July 2019 15:12 (four years ago) link

see, these Trump people aren't salt of the earth working class. they own moving businesses, and snowmobile dealerships, and have huge new F-350s

global tetrahedron, Friday, 5 July 2019 15:12 (four years ago) link

xp you leave Darlene alone, god sent her to me

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Friday, 5 July 2019 15:13 (four years ago) link

i know what i'm going to find when i see the bi-monthly 'NYT talks to trump dumbasses' article, but i still click it every time

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Friday, 5 July 2019 15:14 (four years ago) link

Seems to me that a $25 gift card is a pretty cheap-ass gift for a billionaire.

Velcromancer (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 5 July 2019 15:14 (four years ago) link

One of the reasons Florida is less purple is thanks to Midwestern transplants like Darlene who've moved to the Gulf coast with their god and Chik-Fil-A.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 July 2019 15:15 (four years ago) link

he's just gonna regift that thing to some rose bowl winner or whatever

j., Friday, 5 July 2019 15:27 (four years ago) link

My mom sold up her place in Fort Myers Beach because although she votes Republican, she loathed having this type of person for neighbours (the activity room in the condo was full of shit books by authors on wingnut welfare). The last straw for her was watching some 80-year-old snowbird hurl abuse at a Vietnamese nail bar technician administering a pedicure for having the audacity to ask the customer to move her feet just so. My mom believes a lot of Fox News bullshit and definitely says racist things every time I talk to her but she totally called this woman out as a racist in front of the entire salon.

suzy, Friday, 5 July 2019 15:32 (four years ago) link

wow!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 July 2019 15:33 (four years ago) link

Whatever else is going on with my mom, she spits nails if she sees customers disrespecting those who serve them.

suzy, Friday, 5 July 2019 15:37 (four years ago) link

Driving north on I-75 from Naples to Tampa is a harrowing experience.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 July 2019 15:40 (four years ago) link

i invite you all to drive into central missouri.

actually, don't do that

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Friday, 5 July 2019 15:42 (four years ago) link

xp LOOOOOOOL did that drive every year when I was little, bet it’s even worse now.

suzy, Friday, 5 July 2019 15:52 (four years ago) link

trump on the idea of using an executive order for the census question:

“We’re thinking about doing that. It’s one of the ways — we have four or five ways we can do it,” he said. “We’re thinking of doing it very seriously. We’re doing well on the census.”

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Friday, 5 July 2019 15:55 (four years ago) link

we'll have to see

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Friday, 5 July 2019 15:55 (four years ago) link

many people are saying

*loud helicopter noise*

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Friday, 5 July 2019 15:55 (four years ago) link

After 4 years in the first job he ever applied for, Trump still wouldn't be able to pass a civics exam.

despondently sipping tomato soup (Sanpaku), Friday, 5 July 2019 16:39 (four years ago) link

"look, I'm not a heartless racist conservative, but I don't think we should even think about the conditions illegal immigrants endure during detention when there's so many American citizens who are suffering from homelessness. why should people from another country be given living conditions that are better than those of our own citizens??"

hmmm ok so you think our tax dollars should be redirected towards ending poverty and homelessness?

"lol oh hell no, those lazy fuckers deserve to be poor"

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 5 July 2019 18:04 (four years ago) link

Driving north on I-75 from Naples to Tampa is a harrowing experience.

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, July 5, 2019 10:40 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

My Florida drive historically has been from the Georgia border (I-75) to Daytona or the Space Coast. Some real
Deep South shit round there. And so many pro life billboards by the interstate.

Vape Store (crüt), Friday, 5 July 2019 18:06 (four years ago) link

so many pro life anti-abortion billboards by the interstate

ftfy

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 5 July 2019 18:14 (four years ago) link

thanks Aimless

Vape Store (crüt), Friday, 5 July 2019 18:17 (four years ago) link

"Driving north on I-75 from Naples to Tampa is a harrowing experience."

I75 aka Pillbilly Highway

earlnash, Saturday, 6 July 2019 01:59 (four years ago) link

one of Britain's top diplomats, used secret cables and briefing notes to impugn Trump's character, warning London that the White House was 'uniquely dysfunctional' and that the President's career could end in 'disgrace'

As I hear it, the US has a very special, close relationship with Great Britain. And yes, I can see the family resemblance.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 7 July 2019 03:52 (four years ago) link

Britain's Ambassador to Washington has described Donald Trump as 'inept', 'insecure' and 'incompetent' in a series of explosive memos to Downing Street.

Are there any countries with ambassadors who aren't saying this?

not sure where else to put this

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epstein-arrested-for-sex-trafficking-of-minors-source

global tetrahedron, Sunday, 7 July 2019 05:58 (four years ago) link

Christine Pelosi made a weird tweet about that

This Epstein case is horrific and the young women deserve justice. It is quite likely that some of our faves are implicated but we must follow the facts and let the chips fall where they may - whether on Republicans or Democrats. #WeSaidEnough #MeToo https://t.co/2mvskwQwW1

— Christine Pelosi (@sfpelosi) July 7, 2019

Vape Store (crüt), Sunday, 7 July 2019 06:15 (four years ago) link

“some of our faves”

🤔

Vape Store (crüt), Sunday, 7 July 2019 06:16 (four years ago) link

our increasingly problematic faves

JoeStork, Sunday, 7 July 2019 06:59 (four years ago) link

That’s going to need it’s own thread

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 7 July 2019 10:46 (four years ago) link

Too early for next month's thread title?

Mark G, Sunday, 7 July 2019 11:51 (four years ago) link

faves like Bill Clinton and Dersh

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 7 July 2019 13:06 (four years ago) link

Andrew, the sixth-favourite Prince.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 7 July 2019 13:13 (four years ago) link

Naomi Campbell’s in there too - she seems to have turned over a new leaf in the last five years so...

suzy, Sunday, 7 July 2019 14:09 (four years ago) link

https://scontent.fewr1-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/66361511_10220216660429446_6528971393730609152_o.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_oc=AQky-zuKWYlktwjWvl1Z2jBIRL5gMuXpIXzfPw1eFhS9AC-o5NiFshdKnTsI6M_v9Mk&_nc_ht=scontent.fewr1-3.fna&oh=3ad331024b5a2cc402f54ae24089f8db&oe=5DBF573D

In a new book, Trump claims that he foresaw AOC's political rise. Of course it's bullshit from beginning to end. The only interesting things about this story are a) Trump's bottomless thirstiness, and b) that the ads for Evita, inescapable on NY local TV in the late 70s and early 80s, are still stuck in Trump's senile brain 40 years later.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Sunday, 7 July 2019 15:07 (four years ago) link

have to assume Pelosi is talking about Clinton there. Which isn't surprising but is still disappointing and as happy as I am to see this Epstein stuff coming to a head it's also unsettling that some of this is the root of the child trafficking online conspiracy nonsense that wound up involving that Pizza place.

akm, Sunday, 7 July 2019 15:21 (four years ago) link

yeah this is undoubtedly being read as a win by the q folks but I'll be fucked before I go anywhere online to confirm that

gbx, Sunday, 7 July 2019 15:23 (four years ago) link

Nance says

“All these people have their public whatever and their Twitter world. But they didn’t have any following. They’re four people and that’s how many votes they got. If the left doesn’t think I’m left enough, so be it. As I say to these people, come to my basement. I have these signs about single-payer from 30 years ago. I understand what they’re saying. But we have a responsibility to get something done, which is different from advocacy. We have to have a solution, not just a Twitter fight.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/06/opinion/sunday/nancy-pelosi-pride-parade.html

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 7 July 2019 15:24 (four years ago) link

have to assume [Christine] Pelosi is talking about Clinton there. Which isn't surprising but is still disappointing and as happy as I am to see this Epstein stuff coming to a head it's also unsettling that some of this is the root of the child trafficking online conspiracy nonsense that wound up involving that Pizza place.

― akm, Sunday, July 7, 2019 10:21 AM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah this is undoubtedly being read as a win by the q folks but I'll be fucked before I go anywhere online to confirm that

― gbx, Sunday, July 7, 2019 10:23 AM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

wait...having not followed pizzagate that much. are you saying that the epstein stuff is connected to whatever the Q people thought about pizzagate? epstein is a billionaire so i assume he knows the clintons well - is that the connection, or is there more to it? completely tuned that stuff out a long time ago so i have no clue

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Sunday, 7 July 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link

Air Fuck One?

suzy, Sunday, 7 July 2019 15:32 (four years ago) link

Bill Clinton is known to have flown on Epstein's plane. That's about it, but that's enough to add seasoning to the q-anon stuff.

akm, Sunday, 7 July 2019 15:34 (four years ago) link

clinton though hasn't been explicitly named or accused by anyone, the way Prince Andrew and Dershowitz have been.

akm, Sunday, 7 July 2019 15:35 (four years ago) link

it's also unsettling that some of this is the root of the child trafficking online conspiracy

so by this you meant it's unsettling that some of this ^will be viewed as^ the root of the child trafficking online conspiracy, ^by the same people who are crazy^

ok, i'm going to completely tune that stuff out again

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Sunday, 7 July 2019 15:46 (four years ago) link

As I say to these people, come to my basement.

As catchphrases go this needs work.

nashwan, Sunday, 7 July 2019 15:47 (four years ago) link

Really? Clinton has been named in articles about Epstein (Air Fuck One) if Hillary were Prez this would be the top story of the times

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Sunday, 7 July 2019 15:50 (four years ago) link

It's all speculation but I would also not bet any amount of my own money on Clinton being clean

Hannibal Pelosi xxp

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 7 July 2019 15:51 (four years ago) link

googled "air fuck one" and ended up on this paragraph from a 2008 vanity fair article that has aged rather poorly:

In fairness, it should be said that Clinton’s entourage that weekend also included his daughter, Chelsea, and her boyfriend, Marc Mezvinsky, and no one who was there has adduced the slightest evidence that Clinton’s behavior was anything other than proper. Nor, indeed, is there any proof of post-presidential sexual indiscretions on Clinton’s part, despite a steady stream of tabloid speculation and Internet intimations that the Big Dog might be up to his old tricks. On any given visit to London, for example, Clinton is as apt to dine with Tony Blair or Kevin Spacey as with anyone who might raise an eyebrow.

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Sunday, 7 July 2019 16:03 (four years ago) link

Clinton has been named in articles about Epstein (Air Fuck One)

from my extensive air fuck one research over the past 10 minutes, i have determined that Ron Burkle is the owner and operator of air fuck one, not epstein

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Sunday, 7 July 2019 16:06 (four years ago) link

quick reasearch seems to indicate that some think Pizzagate was propelled along by Cernovich in an attempt to discredit anything involving this stuff; Cernovich has some prior entanglements with Dershowtiz, and obv. Trump was explicitly named along with Epstein in 2016 in a suit that simply vanished.

akm, Sunday, 7 July 2019 16:22 (four years ago) link

I don’t really follow DSA at all but this came across my Twitter timeline and uh

seeing the national director of DSA unironically share this meme actually answers a lot of questions i had about her inability to support antifascist and antiracist organizing pic.twitter.com/yHBnu8FXnu

— molly 🐶 (@socialistdogmom) July 7, 2019

brigadier pudding (DJP), Sunday, 7 July 2019 20:27 (four years ago) link

It would be helpful to know how molly defines the support she thinks is lacking and she desires to see, so I could decide whether it is the job of the DSA to support antifascist and antiracist organizing according to her ideas.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 7 July 2019 20:35 (four years ago) link

Svart appears to have deleted her account after this.

akm, Sunday, 7 July 2019 20:39 (four years ago) link

As well she might.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 7 July 2019 20:45 (four years ago) link

obviously the billionaire and convincingly fake-billionaire world is tiny but i was still unpleasantly startled by the arrival of ghislaine maxwell in this story

the only other bearer of the name ghislaine i was ever aware of is the huge yacht that failed millionaire robert maxwell threw himself off mid-ocean when all was lost, and of course's he's ghislaine's dad (in fact the yacht was named for her)

he bought it off emad khashoggi (cousin of the journalist, nephew of the arms dealer)

there's actually a passage in "silence of the lambs" (since hannibal has been invoked) where jame gumb talks to himself abt the exclusive yachts where he could parade his suit of stitched-together girlskins to an appreciative audience

mark s, Sunday, 7 July 2019 21:13 (four years ago) link

I miss those days when disgraced pension fund plunderers would actually top themselves.

calzino, Sunday, 7 July 2019 21:18 (four years ago) link

xp

That meme sucks but mistakes happen the metro this morning was stuck for a good 4 mins and myself I bought the wrong plant for my sister and I'm sure a plumber somewhere is not doing the perfect job, let's all move on and not draw conclusions about the whole DSA from one meme from one person on one afternoon. I say this as someone who is not really into the DSA per se.

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 7 July 2019 21:33 (four years ago) link

I miss those days when disgraced pension fund plunderers would actually top themselves.

― calzino, Sunday, July 7, 2019

and occasionally bottom

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 7 July 2019 21:33 (four years ago) link

lol!

calzino, Sunday, 7 July 2019 21:35 (four years ago) link

The House moves fast. It's full of rubes and you never get much done. The Senate moves slowly. It's full of fat rich bores, and you never get much done. https://t.co/XDQL3Vg9j8

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) July 8, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 July 2019 17:52 (four years ago) link

there aren't many fat senators these days

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 8 July 2019 18:06 (four years ago) link

apparently trump is set to deliver a speech on "America's Environmental Leadership" today

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Monday, 8 July 2019 19:56 (four years ago) link

That's a good one Karl, tell me another.

Garbo Pond (Leee), Monday, 8 July 2019 20:56 (four years ago) link

I think he means Trump will be giving a speech about how great his hotels are while literally standing on America's Environmental Leadership

brigadier pudding (DJP), Monday, 8 July 2019 21:05 (four years ago) link

He said the forest floor is too dirty and some of the leaves are 20 years old.

nashwan, Monday, 8 July 2019 21:48 (four years ago) link

Make America Rake Again

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 13:36 (four years ago) link

You're saying Trump is a rakist?

glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 13:41 (four years ago) link

good morning!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 13:58 (four years ago) link

is the epstein thing gonna be like the panama/paradise papers where in any functioning political system it would have brought down countless elites but since we live on planet earth everyone will be shocked and appalled and kinda shrug and move on? i imagine he will actually go to jail but the fantasized destruction of trump/clinton etc will of course not happen

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 14:04 (four years ago) link

yeah it's absolutely gonna go down like the panama papers, or perhaps more accurately not go down at all - too many powerful people are involved, and taking them down would require dismantling too many deeply entrenched power structures

coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 14:07 (four years ago) link

News: President Clinton has issued a statement on Jeffrey Epstein pic.twitter.com/LlTZC8j6pv

— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) July 8, 2019

Simon H., Tuesday, 9 July 2019 14:20 (four years ago) link

well, i'm convinced

coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 14:21 (four years ago) link

easily refuted lie

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 14:22 (four years ago) link

xposts Remember when that one neighborhood kid would constantly change the rules of whatever game you were playing in his favor because it's his backyard and his ball? It's like that. Justice only ever gets done when he follows the trail of candy bars into your own backyard and plummets into the deadfall you spent all weekend digging.

I Ate Those Food (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 14:23 (four years ago) link

Clinton statement carefully avoids use of "is"

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 14:25 (four years ago) link

pelosi does good

.@SecretaryAcosta must step down. As US Attorney, he engaged in an unconscionable agreement w/ Jeffrey Epstein kept secret from courageous, young victims preventing them from seeking justice. This was known by @POTUS when he appointed him to the cabinet. #AcostaResign

— Nancy Pelosi (@SpeakerPelosi) July 9, 2019

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 15:50 (four years ago) link

ross perot is dead

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 15:50 (four years ago) link

worst lenny kravitz single

Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 15:54 (four years ago) link

Lol

Fuck Trump, cops, and the CBP (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 15:57 (four years ago) link

thx to forbes for focusing on the real issue with epstein

https://preview.redd.it/yz70higdz9931.jpg?width=720&auto=webp&s=62f0ce0a0d0717d642a8bd1848f2a04465690039

coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 15:58 (four years ago) link

v good stuff

Jeffrey Epstein, the onetime money manager and a registered sex offender, was arrested on sex trafficking charges on Saturday. As news of the arrest ricocheted across the media landscape, many outlets referred to Epstein—mistakenly—as a billionaire.

“Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein Due In Court To Face Sex Charges,” read a CNN chyron. “Jeffrey Epstein, Billionaire Long Accused of Molesting Minors, Is Charged,” said the New York Times.

Forbes has never included Epstein, 66, in its rankings of the World’s Billionaires, since there is scant proof he holds a ten-figure fortune. As we wrote in 2010, “The source of his wealth—a money management firm in the U.S. Virgin Islands—generates no public records, nor has his client list ever been released.”

coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 15:59 (four years ago) link

ross perot is dead

Can I finish, can I finish--can I finish?

clemenza, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 16:00 (four years ago) link

(he finished)

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 16:05 (four years ago) link

epstein's wealth is newsworthy because there is strong circumstantial evidence he got it by blackmail

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 16:10 (four years ago) link

Desperate times...

The crimes committed by Epstein are horrific, and I am pleased that NY prosecutors are moving forward with a case based on new evidence.

— Secretary Acosta (@SecretaryAcosta) July 9, 2019

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link

The White House already considering dumping him?

Labor Secretary Alex Acosta’s standing in the Trump administration was in peril even before the indictment of Jeffrey Epstein cast a fresh spotlight on the former prosecutor’s role in a decade-old plea deal for the financier, according to several people familiar with the matter.

Corporate lobbyists and some White House officials have grown frustrated that Acosta hasn’t moved fast enough on deregulation and other business-friendly initiatives, the people said. No decision has been made on Acosta’s future in the administration, they added, though two people said that his time is short.

As a U.S. attorney in South Florida in 2008, Acosta brokered a plea agreement in secret with Epstein that allowed him to escape serious punishment for earlier allegations of sexual misconduct. Acosta’s dealings with Epstein are under renewed scrutiny after federal prosecutors in Manhattan charged Epstein on Monday with sex trafficking and conspiracy.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-07-08/acosta-s-standing-in-white-house-was-eroding-even-before-epstein

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 16:48 (four years ago) link

not sure how much mileage anyone can get from Trump speaking of Epstein and his taste for young women in glowing terms but obv if Obama said it he'd already have been impeached

omar little, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 17:04 (four years ago) link

Corporate lobbyists and some White House officials have grown frustrated that Acosta hasn’t moved fast enough on deregulation and other business-friendly initiatives, the people said

he just wasn't doing a good enough job at representing everything his own agency is supposed to protect us from

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 17:04 (four years ago) link

Obama said it he'd already have been impeached

obama would have been impeached several thousand times by now, if he did what trump did

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 17:05 (four years ago) link

nah Republicans would be too concerned about blowback lolololol

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 19:14 (four years ago) link

So 45 is going to war on my hometown for stopping recitation of the pledge of allegiance before city council meetings, is it?

Make it make sense, argh...

suzy, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 19:16 (four years ago) link

stuff like that plays well to a good chunk of his base

jeez, there sure is a lot of news about the rampant corruption of the trump administration, could it be possible that even a small fraction of these things are actually real and aren't fake ne--**PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IS UNDER ATTACK** **sprints toward bright colors and moving objects*

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 19:24 (four years ago) link

on his first day, bannon probably handed him a list of 20 such "issues" that could be used as emergency distractions

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 19:25 (four years ago) link

anyone involved with forcing people to say the pledge of allegiance should be embarrassed

people who force children to say it should embarrassed and publicly shamed

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 19:26 (four years ago) link

and then forced to recite whatever bullshit pledge i come up with, on the spot

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 19:27 (four years ago) link

a toledo salamanca?

it's a sword -- a very rare sword.

is it worth much?

only about a million bucks.

*whistles*

Ross Perot was a champion for veterans' rights and ahead of his time on disastrous trade policies. During his campaign, he explained, in depth, how he would address our national problems and spurred serious discussion. Ross Perot was a one-of-a kind American. He will be missed. pic.twitter.com/qXukirfwcL

— Bernie Sanders (@SenSanders) July 9, 2019

mookieproof, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 19:28 (four years ago) link

i had missed this fun tidbit about john kelly:

And when I say close ties, we’re talking about personal rewards as well as campaign contributions. A couple of months ago John Kelly, Trump’s former chief of staff, joined the board of Caliburn International, which runs the infamous Homestead detention center for migrant children.

(from krugman's latest column)

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 19:36 (four years ago) link

I think it's entirely possible that Clinton, dirty as he is, had no involvement in anything skeegy with Epstein. It's entirely possible Trump didn't either. But this looks worse for Trump since he commented publicly years ago about how much he and Epstein both like beautiful women and mentioned Epstein liking the young ones, plus he was already accused of a rape here.

akm, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 19:43 (four years ago) link

"epstein's wealth is newsworthy because there is strong circumstantial evidence he got it by blackmail"

yeah there are serious questions about how this guy was so fucking wealthy given that no one seems to have done any business with him.

akm, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 19:45 (four years ago) link

xp

fwiw, bill clinton was also accused of rape:

https://www.vox.com/2016/1/6/10722580/bill-clinton-juanita-broaddrick

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 19:51 (four years ago) link

I just realized Ross Perot died and it wasn't an early Thursday pelosi whatever and who fucking cares. Get a grip people.

Yerac, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 19:52 (four years ago) link

I know clinton was accused of rape, he just wasn't accused of rape in the context of Epstein, and Trump was.

akm, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 19:55 (four years ago) link

the blackmail thing is wild because, like, that's a whole lot of blackmail to be able to live like that

also suggests that he will completely flip if there's anything that implicates literally anyone else

gbx, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link

Trump was also accused of barging into the dressing room of the teen beauty pageant he held, hoping see a little flesh, I presume.

nickn, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 20:33 (four years ago) link

trump's accusation in this from 2016 was a very direct and explicit claim that he raped a 16 year old at Epstein's, and then that case just completely vanished. Lawyer said she received death threats. Now, who knows; maybe it was an opportunistic claim; maybe it wasn't. People are saying though! People are saying!

akm, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 20:36 (four years ago) link

XP ^^Think he bragged about that, actually.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 20:36 (four years ago) link

i mean it's probably just common or garden global offshore corruption, but you don't have to be a qanon person to think about blackmail in this situation.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 20:54 (four years ago) link

I think about that 2016 accusation a lot, and how something like that would have sank nearly anyone else's bid for public office. Especially since her claim lines up with so many "Trump raped me" stories.

frogbs, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 20:57 (four years ago) link

Turns out that every single one of the 24+ women who have accused trump of sexual misconduct are lying. Just like Christine Blasey Ford, although in that case she wasn’t lying about being assaulted, she just wasn’t remembering the past correctly

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 21:04 (four years ago) link

this accusation though...I mean, it's way more sinister and awful than any of the other ones, so over-the-top that I have a hard time believing even Trump is capable of it. then again, he's one of the worst human beings on the planet, so he probably is.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/3/13501364/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-johnson-allegation

frogbs, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 21:11 (four years ago) link

Erick Erickson, as clever as a fox.

If Epstein had done what he did with teenage boys and dressed them in drag, undoubtedly a number of people out to get him would instead be defending him.

— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) July 9, 2019

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 21:39 (four years ago) link

just a guy who really understands how the world works

mott the hoopleheads (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 22:17 (four years ago) link

to be fair, both zero and one are numbers

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 22:29 (four years ago) link

How soon before Pelosi outlives her usefulness to the financial sponsors of the Democratic Party and they are compelled to replace her with a younger, smoother and more adroit enforcer of the neoliberal agenda?https://t.co/tdWRitS011

— Jeffrey St. Clair (@JSCCounterPunch) July 9, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 01:56 (four years ago) link

I don't know. How soon?

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 01:57 (four years ago) link

year and a half

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 02:00 (four years ago) link

lightning speed in Dem plutocrat time

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 02:00 (four years ago) link

financial sponsors = the jews yes?

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 02:01 (four years ago) link

taking notes, want to make sure I have this right for when the revolution comes

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 02:02 (four years ago) link

there is no bloody revolution

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 02:17 (four years ago) link

also youre quite an obtuse shit, aintcha

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 02:20 (four years ago) link

besos

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 06:31 (four years ago) link

qanon right again:

White House pulls cartoonist Ben Garrison’s invite to social media summit over anti-Semitic cartoon https://t.co/x1sHqFoDA3

— Will Sommer (@willsommer) July 10, 2019

mark s, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 12:42 (four years ago) link

grab 'em by the caddy

President Donald Trump's golf resort in Doral, Florida, is scheduled to host a golf tournament Saturday put on by a Miami-area strip club, which will allow golfers to pay for a dancer to serve as their "caddy girl" while they play at the president's club.

The "Shadow All Star Tournament" is organised by the Shadow Cabaret, a strip club in Hialeah, Florida. Emanuele Mancuso, Shadow Cabaret's marketing director, said in a telephone interview that this was the first time the club had held a tournament at Trump Doral.

The Trump name and family crest are displayed prominently in the strip club's advertising materials, which offer golfers the "caddy girl of your choice."

Mr Mancuso said the strip club did not intend to send a political statement by choosing Trump's resort. Rather, he said, the choice was for luxury. These golfers are VIPs, Mr Mancuso said. "They deserve a VIP environment."

Mr Mancuso said there would be no nudity at the resort. On the course, he said, the caddies would wear pink miniskirts and what he called "a sexy white polo."

Afterward, however, the golfers and the dancers would return to another venue – the cabaret itself – for what he described as a "very tasteful" burlesque show, which could involve nudity.

"They're going to be clothed the whole time" at the golf course, Mancuso said. "At the venue is different."

In a statement, the Trump Organisation confirmed the event is happening and said it was for a "worthwhile cause" – a Miami children's charity. A spokeswoman said the company had not approved the tournament's advertisements before they were published.

A comical 'blobbumentary' programme (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 13:31 (four years ago) link

In a statement, the Trump Organisation confirmed the event is happening and said it was for a "worthwhile cause" – a Miami children's charity.

Tits for Tots, iirc

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 13:36 (four years ago) link

good morning!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 13:36 (four years ago) link

*golf clap* xp

A comical 'blobbumentary' programme (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 13:37 (four years ago) link

i really dislike playbook and jake sherman's whole shtick

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 14:23 (four years ago) link

he looks like NKOTB's Joey McIntyre before he got cute.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 14:34 (four years ago) link

um, as the younger brother of a new kids obsessive, i must say that MANY adolescents thought joey was super cute BEFORE he got...cuter. my sister used to tell tales of a mythical concert in which joey's voice changed during the show

i was once Z S, but now i am larry buttz (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 14:36 (four years ago) link

uh let me point out that Jon Knight was The Cute One. Rarely is the Gay One also the Cute One.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 14:40 (four years ago) link

Kim Darroch did an outstanding job as Ambassador and sorry to see he has resigned his post.

He got a raw deal from press.

— Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) July 10, 2019

mookieproof, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 14:47 (four years ago) link

...that's a weird tweet

i was once Z S, but now i am larry buttz (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 14:50 (four years ago) link

i guess that's what happens when you have to tweet but you're not allowed to say anything that resembles what actually happened

i was once Z S, but now i am larry buttz (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 14:50 (four years ago) link

i mean i guess he got a raw deal from the daily mail for printing the leaked emails?

mookieproof, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 14:53 (four years ago) link

The resignation happened because that industrial-strength fucknut Boris Johnson didn’t commit to backing Darroch when asked in the leadership debate last night.

I’m sure Nazanin Zagari-Radcliffe knows just how that feels.

suzy, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 14:53 (four years ago) link

Maybe he meant "He got a raw deal from the Pres"

the hissing of summer jawns (stevie), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 15:01 (four years ago) link

uh let me point out that Jon Knight was The Cute One. Rarely is the Gay One also the Cute One.

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, July 10, 2019 9:40 AM (thirty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

He is my wife’s favorite. She also liked lance bass.

hollow your fart (m bison), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 15:15 (four years ago) link

Maybe for uk pol thread, but if monsieur ambassadeur is so pissed off with boris johnson, why not stay in post a couple more weeks and make johnson sack him?

Aston "Family Court" Barrett (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 17:17 (four years ago) link

Probably some combination of 'I wouldn't give him the pleasure' / 'I am not going to stand here and wait to be slapped' / 'I'll show the world I have more dignity than that'.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link

this...seems...good?

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/7/10/20687507/triump-kidney-disease-transplant

(speaking as someone who has been on and off the liver transplant list for the past several years).

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 18:46 (four years ago) link

Me on the flagbotherers and 45 versus my hometown:

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/trump-pledge-of-allegiance-minnesota-twitter-a8999491.html

suzy, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 18:50 (four years ago) link

thank god . . . an internet petition

As a prosecutor Acosta was supposed to vindicate young trafficking victims; instead he violated their trust and brushed their evidence aside to protect their abuser. Acosta’s Epstein coverup is unconscionable and indefensible. He MUST resign. #AcostaResign https://t.co/Uboc7pV7jG

— Nancy Pelosi (@TeamPelosi) July 10, 2019

mookieproof, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 19:07 (four years ago) link

she's still acting like the minority leader

mott the hoopleheads (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 19:07 (four years ago) link

How so? Once a cabinet secretary has been confirmed, the congress can't force a resignation. What do you suggest she do differently?

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 19:40 (four years ago) link

this...seems...good?

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/7/10/20687507/triump-kidney-disease-transplant

(speaking as someone who has been on and off the liver transplant list for the past several years).

― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, July 10, 2019 2:46 PM (fifty-six minutes ago)

i think so but idk

TRUMP: "You've worked so hard on the kidney. Very special -- the kidney has a very special place in the heart. It's an incredible thing." pic.twitter.com/JLM3uCsO5u

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) July 10, 2019

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 19:46 (four years ago) link

So reading between the lines he was told that he's suffering from heart failure and subsequently overheard someone talking about kidney transplants and the scrambled wiring in his brain led him first to believe that he needed to have a new kidney implanted into his heart and then to issue an executive order to speed up the process.

That's probably only like 1/10 more dumb than whatever actually motivated this turn of events.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 19:50 (four years ago) link

whatever it was, glad it's happening

i was once Z S, but now i am larry buttz (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 19:53 (four years ago) link

mike pence is contagious

Mississippi Politician Blocks Female Reporter From Campaign Trip

Robert Foster, a state representative, invoked the “Billy Graham rule” of not spending time alone with women other than one’s wife. He said photos could be used to “insinuate an extramarital affair.”

mookieproof, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 20:02 (four years ago) link

it's all that #metoo stuff, right boys? i can't even talk to a woman any more, i'm scared of going to jail!!

i was once Z S, but now i am larry buttz (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 20:23 (four years ago) link

the kidney has a very special place in the heart

GOT to be the August thread title, even 21 days out

Manfred Hemming-Hawing (WmC), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 21:39 (four years ago) link

lmao I assumed that was a fake quote

frogbs, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 21:58 (four years ago) link

Maybe for uk pol thread, but if monsieur ambassadeur is so pissed off with boris johnson, why not stay in post a couple more weeks and make johnson sack him?

― Aston "Family Court" Barrett (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 11 July 2019 3:17 AM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

By going now, with a friendly foreign secretary and PM he can make sure of his full pension and whatever gongs are coming his way. Wait till DePfeffel gets in and who the hell knows, he probably gets delivered trussed up to the rose garden.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 22:39 (four years ago) link

By going this way he’s probably ensured that Teresa ennobled him on the way put the door.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 22:40 (four years ago) link

I'm not exactly following this Acosta stuff but having just seen a pic of him he looks like if Eliot Spitzer had had to relive his scandals tenfold.

The Worf of Wall Street (Leee), Thursday, 11 July 2019 00:39 (four years ago) link

acosta is the only latino on the trump cabinet, right?

hollow your fart (m bison), Thursday, 11 July 2019 00:43 (four years ago) link

I'm not exactly following this Acosta stuff but having just seen a pic of him he looks like if Eliot Spitzer had had to relive his scandals tenfold.

To me he looks like a balding Ted Cruz.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 11 July 2019 01:04 (four years ago) link

i guess that's what happens when you have to tweet but you're not allowed to say anything that resembles what actually happened

I have no spine and I must tweet.

lol

j., Thursday, 11 July 2019 01:49 (four years ago) link

I'm not exactly following this Acosta stuff but having just seen a pic of him he looks like if Eliot Spitzer had had to relive his scandals tenfold.

To me he looks like a balding Ted Cruz.

― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, July 10, 2019

my loudmouth newly #woke lib friend at Starbucks shared his truest remark in three years' acquaintance: "He looks like Kuato from Total Recall.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 July 2019 01:51 (four years ago) link

this photo with his daughters has become a (shining) meme

mookieproof, Thursday, 11 July 2019 02:15 (four years ago) link

gah!

Manfred Hemming-Hawing (WmC), Thursday, 11 July 2019 02:23 (four years ago) link

That's "Simpsons when it was good" made flesh.

nickn, Thursday, 11 July 2019 02:36 (four years ago) link

strong candidate for SANTORUM.JPG

mookieproof, Thursday, 11 July 2019 03:22 (four years ago) link

Acosta wife & daughters (and Pence) appear to be escapees from Wisconsin Death Trip.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 11 July 2019 03:28 (four years ago) link

Needs more cuttyhorse

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 11 July 2019 09:07 (four years ago) link

everyone in that photo has keebler ears

the hissing of summer jawns (stevie), Thursday, 11 July 2019 09:51 (four years ago) link

everyone in that photo is struggling to repress a soul-shredding scream

A comical 'blobbumentary' programme (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 July 2019 10:01 (four years ago) link

Needs more cuttyhorse

― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed),

Needs more Cutty Sark.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 July 2019 10:48 (four years ago) link

lmao that every Republican alive has to pretend this man's brain hasn't rotted through his skull

...or a very nervous and skinny version of Pocahontas (1000/24th), as your President, rather than what you have now, so great looking and smart, a true Stable Genius! Sorry to say that even Social Media would be driven out of business along with, and finally, the Fake News Media!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 11, 2019

frogbs, Thursday, 11 July 2019 15:23 (four years ago) link

what the

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 July 2019 15:25 (four years ago) link

just fucking exp*re already

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 11 July 2019 15:27 (four years ago) link

Once I realized that he's been referring to the kind of stable genius that solves simple math problems by stamping its hoof, I had to admit that the description was apropos.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 July 2019 15:29 (four years ago) link

that kind of genius lives in one, for sure

Evan, Thursday, 11 July 2019 15:30 (four years ago) link

worth posting all of that

A big subject today at the White House Social Media Summit will be the tremendous dishonesty, bias, discrimination and suppression practiced by certain companies. We will not let them get away with it much longer. The Fake News Media will also be there, but for a limited period..

....The Fake News is not as important, or as powerful, as Social Media. They have lost tremendous credibility since that day in November, 2016, that I came down the escalator with the person who was to become your future First Lady. When I ultimately leave office in six......

....years, or maybe 10 or 14 (just kidding), they will quickly go out of business for lack of credibility, or approval, from the public. That’s why they will all be Endorsing me at some point, one way or the other. Could you imagine having Sleepy Joe Biden, or @AlfredENeuman99,..

...or a very nervous and skinny version of Pocahontas (1000/24th), as your President, rather than what you have now, so great looking and smart, a true Stable Genius! Sorry to say that even Social Media would be driven out of business along with, and finally, the Fake News Media!

Karl Malone, Thursday, 11 July 2019 15:30 (four years ago) link

@AlfredENeuman99 has 760 followers. here is his twitter bio:

Retired teacher and soccer coach. Season ticket holder of the Chicago Cubs. Luther College, Northern Illinois U, UMiami. Crystal Palace, Liverpool, Chelsea.

he lives in Florida

Karl Malone, Thursday, 11 July 2019 15:32 (four years ago) link

So he famously went down an escalator in 2016 too?

Evan, Thursday, 11 July 2019 15:34 (four years ago) link

pardon me for saying so but the fact that the President of the United States has a tendency to tag random people on Twitter is hilarious to me

frogbs, Thursday, 11 July 2019 15:35 (four years ago) link

'the person who was to become your future First Lady' is a very normal-brain thing to post, good work mr presidetn

no he announced his candidacy the same month he won the election. that's how it happened. xpost

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 11 July 2019 15:36 (four years ago) link

That’s almost as incoherent as the message my mom just sent me about the article I wrote about St. Louis Park.

Fucksake, make it make sense....

suzy, Thursday, 11 July 2019 15:39 (four years ago) link

wow that's inspiring

xp

Evan, Thursday, 11 July 2019 15:40 (four years ago) link

i can't believe he has enough brain cells to breathe. honestly.

maura, Thursday, 11 July 2019 15:56 (four years ago) link

On one occasion, Alberta reports Trump finally gave in to signing a 2018 spending bill that didn't include border wall funding only after Ryan agreed to give him time to build suspense on Twitter.

lol

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 11 July 2019 15:57 (four years ago) link

tfw when you lack the moral courage to stand up to a brain-damaged septuagenarian in order to enact your plan to crush the poor

one great thing about this social media summit is that the people who weren't invited are throwing tantrums about it

this includes ben garrison, who was DISINVITED after one of his old cartoons was held up as anti-semitic. he has already promised/threatened to draw about it

maura, Thursday, 11 July 2019 16:00 (four years ago) link

like they're all such fucking babies and it becomes more apparent every day

maura, Thursday, 11 July 2019 16:00 (four years ago) link

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/11/white-house-social-media-bias-talks-1576717

The invited guests include far-right activist Ali Alexander, who infamously claimed last month that Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), who has Indian and Jamaican heritage, is "not an American Black" in a tweet shared by Donald Trump Jr., as well as YourVoice America host Bill Mitchell, who has promoted the QAnon conspiracy theory alleging that Trump is waging a secret war against pedophiles and "deep state" saboteurs. Another expected attendee is James O'Keefe, whose undercover sting outfit Project Veritas has released what critics say are selectively edited videos depicting organizations ranging from Google to Planned Parenthood as biased and corrupt.

Pro-Trump political cartoonist Ben Garrison was also among those slated to attend, but the White House rescinded his invitation, POLITICO Playbook reported Wednesday, amid complaints that his work has promoted anti-Semitic tropes about Jewish financiers controlling world events.

maura, Thursday, 11 July 2019 16:02 (four years ago) link

only the best people

maura, Thursday, 11 July 2019 16:02 (four years ago) link

these guys are slipping off the planet, just want them to stop grabbing everyone's ankles on the way out

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 11 July 2019 16:07 (four years ago) link

wait how does this work @AlfredENeuman99

'Crystal Palace, Liverpool, Chelsea'

mookieproof, Thursday, 11 July 2019 16:10 (four years ago) link

'orioles, red sox, yankees'

mookieproof, Thursday, 11 July 2019 16:11 (four years ago) link

I am reading the Alfred E. Neuman tag as the manner that was Tr*mp's way of calling another candidate a nickname, probably Buttigieg?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 11 July 2019 16:22 (four years ago) link

yes. Keeping his finger on the pulse, our fearless leader has mocked one of his many opponents with an accusation of youth and inability to be taken seriously by linking to the wrong twitter handle in a reference to a 66 year old satirical publication that ceased publication this month.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 11 July 2019 16:37 (four years ago) link

the pulse of the kidney, natch

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 11 July 2019 16:38 (four years ago) link

James O'fucking Keefe is still getting invited to things? I guess if you bring down ACORN you get a lifetime pass to republican events

Karl Malone, Thursday, 11 July 2019 16:43 (four years ago) link

an inspired act of god should happen here

omar little, Thursday, 11 July 2019 16:46 (four years ago) link

I think this any time there's a super-high concentration of undiluted irredeemability under one roof (i.e. increasingly frequently).

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 July 2019 16:49 (four years ago) link

Pelosi said she’ll ask faith-based/evangelical groups to appeal to president to stop ICE raids. “They put him in office.”

— Erica Werner (@ericawerner) July 11, 2019

she is beyond worthless

frogbs, Thursday, 11 July 2019 16:50 (four years ago) link

christ on a cracker, literally

maura, Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:00 (four years ago) link

sorry, speaking of those massive raids that are going to ruin the lives of thousands of families tomorrow (COOL COUNTRY WE LIVE IN!)

these are the same raids that democrats asked to be postponed so that they could give $5 billion to DHS with the intention of using the money to improve the wretched conditions in our detention camps for refugees (COOL COUNTRY WE LIVE IN!), right?

Karl Malone, Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:02 (four years ago) link

Pelosi should put up a comment box with a bunch of blank cards and a pencil on a string outside the WH fence. There's no way that Trump could withstand the fury of all those hastily-scrawled complaints.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:03 (four years ago) link

Pelosi said she’ll ask faith-based/evangelical groups to appeal to president to stop ICE raids. “They put him in office.”

by the way, if you confront evangelicals with this, what they say is "i just want people to follow the law"

Karl Malone, Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:07 (four years ago) link

look i think she has to operate on the assumption that these people will do the right thing if she appeals passively to a go-between voting bloc that has always completely sided with the opposition.

omar little, Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:10 (four years ago) link

Morals are very important to Evangelical Christians so I think we should just trust that they'll make the most morally-defensible decision in any given situation. I'm sure if we point out that Donald Trump behaves in an immoral fashion they'll realize that giving him their support was a mistake.

(takes medication to relieve post-lobotomy headache)

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:18 (four years ago) link

had to triple check that this person wasn’t just doing a bit pic.twitter.com/wtlM9hGGWW

— unlicensed professional (@KrangTNelson) July 11, 2019

omar little, Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:22 (four years ago) link

Nancy hasn't been disrespected this much since she first arrived on Ellis Island.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:37 (four years ago) link

There was also that time her daughters ordered a pizza wth penne on it and Nancy was all "That is not a pizza!!!"

Evan, Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:50 (four years ago) link

i would slur her with an italian slur but i forgot what they all even are and i can't find my slur dictionary

j., Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link

I presume anti-Italian prejudice (certainly a real thing midcentury) hadn't vanished by Pelosi's youth -- in the late '30s there was a major magazine profile (LIfe?) of Joe DiMaggio that literally complimented "He doesn't reek of garlic" -- but one of these things is not like the other.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 July 2019 18:00 (four years ago) link

Thanks! A little amazed my memory was that accurate.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 July 2019 18:35 (four years ago) link

the Alfred E. Neuman thing was a dig at Buttigieg I think.

Vape Store (crüt), Thursday, 11 July 2019 18:56 (four years ago) link

holy hell I just realized that "one-thousand twenty-fourth" is why Trump wrote "1000/24th"

frogbs, Thursday, 11 July 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link

I still don’t get that. I assumed he was trying to refer to Warren’s DNA test but doesn’t know how fractions work?

Karl Malone, Thursday, 11 July 2019 19:15 (four years ago) link

either that or he thinks she's 4167% Native, maybe why he calls her "Pocahontas"??

frogbs, Thursday, 11 July 2019 19:17 (four years ago) link

you could be 110% right on that, it's tough to tell with this guy

Karl Malone, Thursday, 11 July 2019 19:18 (four years ago) link

Let's keep divining the poop he's smeared all over the walls, I'm sure the secret meaning will reveal itself in time.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 July 2019 19:20 (four years ago) link

trump's cultural references are slightly fresher than john sterling's, but a lot less coherent

it is high . . . it is far . . . it is caught fake news

mookieproof, Thursday, 11 July 2019 19:27 (four years ago) link

1/1024 = 1/(2^10), which I guess in allele division means ten generations ago or so.

The Worf of Wall Street (Leee), Thursday, 11 July 2019 19:37 (four years ago) link

Per CNN, Trump expected to back away from census citizenship question, direct Commerce to seek data through other sources: https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/11/politics/trump-census-executive-action/index.html

mott the hoopleheads (voodoo chili), Thursday, 11 July 2019 20:11 (four years ago) link

what would have prevented everyone from just fucking lying on the census? is it a 'under pentalty of perjury' sort of thing?

also re: italians as POC: my wife has a friend who is just a few years older than us (in her 50's) and she acts all the time ike this is still a thing. She's from NY.

akm, Thursday, 11 July 2019 20:14 (four years ago) link

the point is that many people would, rather than lie, be intimidated out of filling out the census at all.

Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 11 July 2019 20:16 (four years ago) link

update: rip the university of alaska. the legislature needed 45 votes to override the governor's budget veto; the vote was 37-1 to do so with 22 republicans absent

With 22 lawmakers absent, a joint session of the Alaska Legislature in Juneau fails to override Gov. Dunleavy's budget vetoes https://t.co/HyJHEb3lMR pic.twitter.com/IDrIhetfwD

— Anchorage Daily News (@adndotcom) July 10, 2019

mookieproof, Thursday, 11 July 2019 20:27 (four years ago) link

i mean at least have the fucking guts to show up and vote to gut your state's education system

mookieproof, Thursday, 11 July 2019 20:28 (four years ago) link

guts for the moment of gutting in short supply

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 July 2019 20:37 (four years ago) link

guts for the gutting
dirty little secret
reason for the gathering
consequence

mookieproof, Thursday, 11 July 2019 20:43 (four years ago) link

Have tons of family who have gone to/taught at UAF in particular. My cousin is likely completely screwed. And of course the native kids in the villages, and children of immigrants, and working-class hunters/fishers who want to go to college without leaving the state will end up getting a pathetic education as the remaining professors make their escape plans.

JoeStork, Thursday, 11 July 2019 20:51 (four years ago) link

really excited about nullification coming back in a big way in the 21st century

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 11 July 2019 20:52 (four years ago) link

holy hell I just realized that "one-thousand twenty-fourth" is why Trump wrote "1000/24th"

― frogbs

I still don’t get that. I assumed he was trying to refer to Warren’s DNA test but doesn’t know how fractions work?

― Karl Malone


you'll be delighted to know he has deleted the tweet

to correct the fraction

...or a very nervous and skinny version of Pocahontas (1/1024th), as your President, rather than what you have now, so great looking and smart, a true Stable Genius! Sorry to say that even Social Media would be driven out of business along with, and finally, the Fake News Media!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 11, 2019

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 11 July 2019 20:59 (four years ago) link

still left this part up though

They have lost tremendous credibility since that day in November, 2016, that I came down the escalator with the person who was to become your future First Lady.

something very Wiseauian about that prose

frogbs, Thursday, 11 July 2019 21:01 (four years ago) link

so this uh """"social media summit"""" seems like a good use of White House resources

Trump says his social media following used to just go up, but now it's like "up, down, up, down," and even when it goes up, "it goes very slowly," and "sometimes it comes down substantially," and he doesn't know what's going on.

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) July 11, 2019

Trump: "There's no doubt in my mind that I should have millions and millions - I have millions of people, so many people I wouldn't believe it, but I know that we've been blocked, People come up to me and they say, 'Sir, I can't get you. I can't follow you.'"

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) July 11, 2019

actually I totally buy that Trump's fans can't figure out how to follow him

frogbs, Thursday, 11 July 2019 21:05 (four years ago) link

maybe he's misunderstanding what people mean when they say "i can't follow you"

Karl Malone, Thursday, 11 July 2019 21:12 (four years ago) link

hahahaha

akm, Thursday, 11 July 2019 21:35 (four years ago) link

so reports are he's going to back off on the citizenship in census but send out some other questionnaire. Why would they think anyone would fill that out rather than just throw it away? who the fuck is going to fill out a form that implicates themselves? what kind of dumb world is this?

akm, Thursday, 11 July 2019 21:37 (four years ago) link

lol back down bitch

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 11 July 2019 21:43 (four years ago) link

Barr is such a boot licking chump I hate the sound of his voice

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 11 July 2019 21:45 (four years ago) link

@realDonaldTrump: I am not a fan of Bitcoin and other Cryptocurrencies, which are not money, and whose value is highly volatile and based on thin air. Unregulated Crypto Assets can facilitate unlawful behavior, including drug trade and other illegal activity....


uh oh he's gonna lose the crypto vote

gbx, Friday, 12 July 2019 00:22 (four years ago) link

A grad student out of my department was en route to Fairbanks with her family to start a tenure track job at UAF last week; not sure if it’s even worth unpacking at this point for what is probably now a one year gig.

joygoat, Friday, 12 July 2019 01:18 (four years ago) link

"Unregulated Crypto Assets can facilitate unlawful behavior, including drug trade and other illegal activity" yeah duh dude that's half the fucking point. Thanks for joining the 21st century Granddad

akm, Friday, 12 July 2019 02:44 (four years ago) link

To be fair, at least half his base balances their checkbook by hand

Karl Malone, Friday, 12 July 2019 02:48 (four years ago) link

They could use a quick little summary of cryotocurrency

Karl Malone, Friday, 12 July 2019 02:48 (four years ago) link

xps i wonder if they write the contracts for those things so that they're actually enforceable/you can sue them for breaking - usually the non-tenure-track ones are so unfavorable to the faculty party that the university can basically drop its end at will

j., Friday, 12 July 2019 03:10 (four years ago) link

They could use a quick little summary of cryotocurrency

Walt Disney doesn't get a vote

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, 12 July 2019 05:30 (four years ago) link

Literally the only vocal trump voter I know is also a crypto person. Looking forward to hearing his reaction

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 12 July 2019 06:56 (four years ago) link

you won't believe it but Trump tweeted negative stuff about Paul Ryan! Called him a failure.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 12 July 2019 08:03 (four years ago) link

trump otm

Acosta gone, in the least surprising resignation ever. Now he should be disbarred, and possibly also charged with criminal conduct.

akm, Friday, 12 July 2019 13:54 (four years ago) link

Good riddance. https://t.co/vjTQCQsDzV

— Kirsten Gillibrand (@SenGillibrand) July 12, 2019

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 12 July 2019 13:57 (four years ago) link

lolol

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 July 2019 14:02 (four years ago) link

As soon as MSNBC ran a clip yesterday of "Judge" Andrew Napolitano on FOX announcing that Acosta would be gone by Friday I knew his days were numbered.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 July 2019 14:03 (four years ago) link

Trump on Acosta: "He's a tremendous talent. He's a Hispanic man. He went to Harvard."

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) July 12, 2019

mookieproof, Friday, 12 July 2019 14:19 (four years ago) link

very normal brain

"He's done a fantastic job. He's a friend of everybody in the administration," Trump began their appearance. He said Acosta "did a fantastic job yesterday" in the press conference, which happened two days ago.

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) July 12, 2019

Trump fired him because he wasn't being conservative i.e. mean enough as labor secretary.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 July 2019 14:22 (four years ago) link

"Why haven't you deported labor yet?"

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 12 July 2019 14:26 (four years ago) link

the normalist

Trump says getting citizenship information through government data will be "actually more accurate than a Census." Asked if he backed down, he said not only did he not back down, "I backed UP."

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) July 12, 2019

frogbs, Friday, 12 July 2019 14:43 (four years ago) link

he backed that azz up

maura, Friday, 12 July 2019 14:43 (four years ago) link

Asked if his time in office was anything more than a series of major fuck-ups, President Trump retorted that 'it's been a series of minor fuck-DOWNS,' followed by staring into the middle distance and muttering in a barely-audible tone, 'I'm a big boy, a big boy'

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Friday, 12 July 2019 14:48 (four years ago) link

“So to me, free speech is not when you see something good and then you purposely write bad, to me that’s very dangerous speech, and you become angry at it. But that’s not free speech.”

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 July 2019 15:02 (four years ago) link

Maggie Haberman makes me want to scream so much

Trump, who used to use a specific phrase with aides to describe Epstein’s island, says this to reporters this AM, via @anniekarni: “His Island, whatever this island was, wherever it is, I was never there. Find out the people that went to the island.”

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) July 12, 2019

Apparently its "Pedo Island" but for some reason she has to use code.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 12 July 2019 15:13 (four years ago) link

the NYT: always discreet except when ginning up wars

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 July 2019 16:17 (four years ago) link

Acosta becomes the 13th Cabinet member to depart the Trump administration. By this time in the Obama admin, none had left. In the George W. Bush admin at this point, one had departed. pic.twitter.com/Uzi5uXeG5q

— Kate Bennett (@KateBennett_DC) July 12, 2019

And there's a 14th coming soon - apparently Trump wants to push Dan Coats out.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 12 July 2019 17:21 (four years ago) link

Thread: @ManhattanDA @CyVance Jr. is the Forrest Gump/Roy Cohn/Tom Hagen/Don Jr of the Trump era:
1. Protected Ivanka & Don Jr
2. Protected Harvey Weinstein
3. *Protected Jeffrey Epstein.*
4. But overzealously prosecutes poor/ mass incarcerates.
5. And is botching Manafort case https://t.co/8ttCw2pq3i

— Jed Shugerman (@jedshug) July 9, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 July 2019 17:57 (four years ago) link

can't read his name without picturing powers boothe's character in deadwood.

mott the hoopleheads (voodoo chili), Friday, 12 July 2019 17:58 (four years ago) link

at least that bizarro stunt produced some high-quality Vic

Mr. Trump took to the podium today to NOT complain about losing followers on social media.

If you like my videos and want to support what I do, check out my Patreon: https://t.co/sQPiRk8jyD pic.twitter.com/OTpAMJDv4i

— Pastor Vic Berger IV (@VicBergerIV) July 12, 2019

frogbs, Friday, 12 July 2019 17:59 (four years ago) link

Yes, but only those most deserving. pic.twitter.com/l3kI5Gjx8F

— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) July 12, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 July 2019 21:07 (four years ago) link

glad that jesus and/or socialism is saving alex in nyc

mookieproof, Friday, 12 July 2019 21:20 (four years ago) link

so in this analogy Jesus is Socialism and heroin is heroin?

millions now living free will never die hard

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 12 July 2019 21:46 (four years ago) link

There’s not enough arms in that picture. Why is that guy injecting Jesus with heroin?

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 12 July 2019 22:04 (four years ago) link

Because it’s part of God’s plan, duh

Karl Malone, Friday, 12 July 2019 22:06 (four years ago) link

Jesus is accepting onto himself the burden of that poor man's sins. It's just part of the confused mixture of symbolism and literalism that suffuses fundamentalist theology.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 12 July 2019 22:52 (four years ago) link

VP saw 384 men sleeping inside fences, on concrete w/no pillows or mats. They said they hadn’t showered in weeks, wanted toothbrushes, food. Stench was overwhelming. CBP said they were fed regularly, could brush daily & recently got access to shower (many hadn’t for 10-20 days.) pic.twitter.com/tHFZYxJF7C

— Josh Dawsey (@jdawsey1) July 12, 2019

JoeStork, Friday, 12 July 2019 23:46 (four years ago) link

the picture with pence and those cages is some odious shit

global tetrahedron, Saturday, 13 July 2019 00:01 (four years ago) link

really

Dan S, Saturday, 13 July 2019 00:03 (four years ago) link

I'm sure that deeply held Christianity will kick in any day now.

JoeStork, Saturday, 13 July 2019 00:17 (four years ago) link

can't wait for marco's next scripture tweet

mookieproof, Saturday, 13 July 2019 00:17 (four years ago) link

Tracy Nuetzi, a white Trump voter in Florida, got caught up by ICE and was mislabeled an immigrant. She spent nearly a year trying to prove she was a US citizen and says no one should be treated like she was. But she plans to vote for Trump again in 2020. https://t.co/bZ1hJnib6p

— Keith Boykin (@keithboykin) July 12, 2019

j., Saturday, 13 July 2019 02:00 (four years ago) link

Tracy, we have a Darwin Award with your name pre-engraved, whenever you're ready to, y'know, do whatever final thing it is that you'll inevitably do.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Saturday, 13 July 2019 02:24 (four years ago) link

a credit to citizenship

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 13 July 2019 04:12 (four years ago) link

She spent nearly a year trying to prove she was a US citizen

Sure, she tried to prove it, but I have my lingering doubts and I feel like until she's succeeded in proving it past all doubts and to everyone's complete satisfaction, she should not be allowed to vote, because we all know how much fraudulent voting is being done by non-citizens these days and its ruining our precious democracy. I want witnesses, affidavits, a loyalty oath, a birth certificate examined by a panel of forensic experts, an honorable discharge from the armed forces, and proof she has never accepted a penny in food stamps under any of her aliases.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 13 July 2019 04:31 (four years ago) link

you know things are way fucked up when aimless gets sarcastic

mookieproof, Saturday, 13 July 2019 04:40 (four years ago) link

I think it was Grayson Allen pushed me over the edge.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 13 July 2019 04:47 (four years ago) link

understandable

mookieproof, Saturday, 13 July 2019 04:54 (four years ago) link

who is badass on a friday night two weeks later? the house democrats, that's who

Who is this guy and why is he explicitly singling out a Native American woman of color?

Her name is Congresswoman Davids, not Sharice.

She is a phenomenal new member who flipped a red seat blue.

Keep👏🏾Her👏🏾Name👏🏾Out👏🏾Of👏🏾Your👏🏾Mouth. pic.twitter.com/k4sV5hsbQl

— House Democrats (@HouseDemocrats) July 13, 2019

mookieproof, Saturday, 13 July 2019 04:57 (four years ago) link

jesus

Vape Store (crüt), Saturday, 13 July 2019 05:34 (four years ago) link

His widow Lorraine Day is all over the documentary Ward 5B.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 July 2019 13:25 (four years ago) link

Pence comes through

CNN is so dishonest. Today we took reporters to a detention facility on the border for families and children and all told us they were being treated well.

— Vice President Mike Pence (@VP) July 13, 2019

JoeStork, Saturday, 13 July 2019 18:42 (four years ago) link

iirc when someone says “my captors are treating me well” you’re not supposed to take that at face value

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 13 July 2019 19:57 (four years ago) link

I feel like Pence doing the “who are you gonna believe, me or your own eyes” bit deserves a little more attention than AOC/Pelosi bullshit but oh well.

Also a dude got shot and killed after throwing IEDs at the NW Detention Center in Tacoma this morning.

JoeStork, Saturday, 13 July 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link

This one has me gobsmacked. pic.twitter.com/lMRm1nt1xc

— Sassy Jax 🍑 ⚦♊︎ (@Rafaeslomejor) July 13, 2019

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 13 July 2019 23:12 (four years ago) link

Pence has put on a little weight in the intervening 75 years, but not bad, considering

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Saturday, 13 July 2019 23:24 (four years ago) link

iirc when someone says “my captors are treating me well” you’re not supposed to take that at face value

iirc when a captor says “someone says my captors are treating me well” you’re not supposed to take that at face value


especially when every other reporter says “they said their captors are treating them inhumanely”

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Sunday, 14 July 2019 00:26 (four years ago) link

I read that several times and I wonder if one or more of your 'captors' was intended as 'captives'?

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 14 July 2019 01:52 (four years ago) link

no, I don’t think so

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Sunday, 14 July 2019 02:57 (four years ago) link

uh, OK

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 14 July 2019 03:22 (four years ago) link

I’m with Aimless on this one, maybe try again

El Tomboto, Sunday, 14 July 2019 03:50 (four years ago) link

nest some more quotes around the “my captors” bit though

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Sunday, 14 July 2019 04:11 (four years ago) link

so then, your intention was to convey:

when a captor (Pence) says, "someone (a captive) says, 'my captors (Border Patrol) are treating me well.'", you’re not supposed to take that at face value.

?

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 14 July 2019 04:19 (four years ago) link

yep!

I was on a bus and missed adding the single quote

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Sunday, 14 July 2019 04:55 (four years ago) link

(then on another bus and just paying attention to each captor when reading it back after your explicable confusion)

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Sunday, 14 July 2019 05:00 (four years ago) link

at any rate, there’s a place prepared in hell for hypocrites, and if there’s any justice everyone involved will be tarred and feathered for starters before they get there

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 14 July 2019 05:32 (four years ago) link

”So interesting to see ​’​Progressive​’​ Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly​ ​and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run​,”

(•̪●) (carne asada), Sunday, 14 July 2019 16:25 (four years ago) link

“Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how​ it is done​,” he continued. “​These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements!​”

(•̪●) (carne asada), Sunday, 14 July 2019 16:26 (four years ago) link

Racists president is racist

(•̪●) (carne asada), Sunday, 14 July 2019 16:27 (four years ago) link

good morning!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 July 2019 16:28 (four years ago) link

Racists president is racist

― (•̪●) (carne asada),

Rapist president diverts attention to preferred grounds

anvil, Sunday, 14 July 2019 18:45 (four years ago) link

Child's Garden of Trump "R" entry would include: raucous, racist, rabid, rash, regressive, revolting, ridiculous, regrettable, rapacious, rapist, ruthless, recidivist, radical, rank, risible, rancorous, rude, rancorous, repressive, ruinous, repellant, remorseless, ranting, repulsive

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 14 July 2019 19:28 (four years ago) link

This is raucous, racist, rabid, rash, regressive, revolting, ridiculous, regrettable, rapacious, rapist, ruthless, recidivist, radical, rank, risible, rancorous, rude, rancorous, repressive, ruinous, repellant, remorseless, ranting, repulsive even by his standards.

pomenitul, Sunday, 14 July 2019 19:30 (four years ago) link

repetitive but right

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 14 July 2019 19:31 (four years ago) link

rancorous, rude, rancorous


forgot repetitive

Xp there it is

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Sunday, 14 July 2019 19:32 (four years ago) link

And rampant. And repugnant.

pomenitul, Sunday, 14 July 2019 19:37 (four years ago) link

Racists president is racist

You missed the apostrophe, like so:

Racists' president is racist

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Sunday, 14 July 2019 19:49 (four years ago) link

There's a subreddit called 'Ask Trump Supporters' where you can interact with some of America's finest. Someone asked 'In a recent tweet, Trump said that progressive congresswomen should go back to the corrupt countries they came from and fix them before trying to reform our government. Do you agree?' Here's a selection of replies:

Do you really take that statement literally? Or do you understand the context and point being made.

[q]What do you think about the tweets?

Love it.

Is this appropriate behavior from the President?

Completely fine by me. Someone needs to put these people in their place.

Is it a racist remark?

To you progressives and liberals? Probably. Do I care? Not one bit.[/q]

“Racism” is a code word for anti-white. Liberals use it relentlessly to silence conservatives and whites. Liberals have even gone so far as to say that racism is “power plus privilege” and thus minorities can not possibly be racist towards whites.

I’ve simply had enough. I won’t apologize for the privileges I’ve had in my life and I don’t feel bad for the failures of others. Im proud of my glorious heritage and no one is going to change that. The age of guilt is over.

I also do not see what is racist about it, he didnt comment about the color of her skin. Is anyone that is a minority shielded from any criticism because of their skin color??

Also, I find it incredibly disrespectful to the country that litterally saved Omars family to suggest that americans are racists bigot etc etc.. Her family owes a gigantic debt to this country and the citizen that opened their arms to her family.

I truly echoe the remarks of Trump and also those remarks coming from Tucker Carlson as well.

On a sidenote, I am quite enjoying this civil war between the unhinged progressives and Pelosi.

etc.

pomenitul, Sunday, 14 July 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link

Sorry for the wonky formatting.

pomenitul, Sunday, 14 July 2019 20:01 (four years ago) link

On a sidenote, I am quite enjoying this civil war between the unhinged progressives and Pelosi.

Chris Christie was parroting this point on TV this morning.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 14 July 2019 20:16 (four years ago) link

I don't think that's a talking point so much as an honest reaction. I'm sure they all love it.

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 14 July 2019 20:18 (four years ago) link

Trump supporters in desiring a modern civil war shockah

Karl Malone, Sunday, 14 July 2019 20:29 (four years ago) link

I hate it, but I just saw Pelosi called them "xenophobic comments" and it's real tiring how point-missing she is

rob, Sunday, 14 July 2019 20:29 (four years ago) link

I think you can't understand "a bunch of House Democrats/staffers think AOC is making them look bad and should shut up" without remembering that they have cable news on in their offices 24/7 and are deeply brain poisoned by it

— Michael T Sweeney (@mtsw) July 14, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 15 July 2019 11:18 (four years ago) link

I heard someone say that Dem Congressmen/staffers are under the delusion that their worthless bills would be getting more attention if AOC was not always tweeting stuff

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 15 July 2019 12:55 (four years ago) link

Pelosi's comments about how they're "Twitter famous" or whatever still piss me off, as though we don't currently have a president who tweeted his way to the White House

frogbs, Monday, 15 July 2019 13:26 (four years ago) link

Meanwhile, Trump's doubling down on the "Radical Left Congresswomen" this morning just reinforces a.) how deliberate a strategy this is and b.) how much the 2020 race is going to be nothing but unvarnished racist/sexist chest thumping, and how ugly it will be. It's gonna make 2016 Trump look tame.

that's all he has to go with at this point other than the economy being what it is .

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 15 July 2019 13:34 (four years ago) link

Yeah, it's how he dominates the cycle. He says something shocking, then what he says becomes news for a couple of days, and all the idiot press keeps hounding people for comment. If someone doesn't comment then it's "omg, Pelosi mum on Trump racism!" And then if you do comment, it's almost pointless, because Trump doesn't give a shit and will just move on to his next mouth fart. The only way to win is to not say anything, which for both the press and politicians is practically impossible. Or change the subject, which takes some savvy that press and politicians often lack. "Yeah, he's racist, but we can talk about that some other time, because thousands of people are being held in cages and health care is once again on the chopping block and no one wants that."

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 July 2019 13:35 (four years ago) link

"The only way to win"...man, fuck that, this isn't a game for immigrants or kids of immigrants. This is worth fighting independent of the politics "game".

L'assie (Euler), Monday, 15 July 2019 13:46 (four years ago) link

Well, yeah. Obviously. But I'd like to know how Trump winning election will help any of those victims of his policies.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 July 2019 14:00 (four years ago) link

Building consensus against thinking that citizens should "go back to their own country" is what matters. Electoral politics are a consequence of that consensus, not the goal in themselves.

L'assie (Euler), Monday, 15 July 2019 14:17 (four years ago) link

I don't even know what you mean by consensus. He is not a popular president. His policies are not popular. They are not driven by consensus. They are driven exclusively by his power.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 July 2019 14:24 (four years ago) link

It's not consensus so much as a redefining of The Center such that now as Americans we define "keeping children well fed and bathed in pens" as the center.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 July 2019 14:28 (four years ago) link

meanwhile, some of the frogs started to notice that the water around them had been simmering for quite some time

Karl Malone, Monday, 15 July 2019 14:57 (four years ago) link

in other dumb news, it is very obvious that trump's way out on his obviously racist tweets about the squad (sorry, i don't like the name but i don't like typing all four of their names out either) is going to be that he wasn't referring to them, that he never said their names, and that the news is fake

Karl Malone, Monday, 15 July 2019 15:00 (four years ago) link

So did anybody actually go to one of these lights for liberty things or was that strictly for Balloon Juice commenters

El Tomboto, Monday, 15 July 2019 15:03 (four years ago) link

"I never told them to go back to their country, I asked them make a temporary visit and then to come back"

though Trump doesn't need "a way out", he's gonna double down like he always does. his mouthpieces are definitely gonna use lines like this one though

frogbs, Monday, 15 July 2019 15:03 (four years ago) link

"i meant go back to the US cities they came from. Also Sister Souljah happened to Clinton. DOUBLE STANDARD?"

Fuck Trump, cops, and the CBP (Neanderthal), Monday, 15 July 2019 15:03 (four years ago) link

oh looks like he's already tweeted that those congresswomen are the real foul-mouthed racists

frogbs, Monday, 15 July 2019 15:06 (four years ago) link

so did Lindsey Graham

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 July 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link

Calling racists out on their racism is racist. Checkmate, racists.

pomenitul, Monday, 15 July 2019 15:10 (four years ago) link

So did anybody actually go to one of these lights for liberty things

my partner did! i haven't had a chance to ask about it yet.

i've been traveling so i'm just catching up on the news. apparently the raids were delayed because the whole country knew about them in advance

Karl Malone, Monday, 15 July 2019 15:13 (four years ago) link

"i meant go back to the US cities they came from. Also Sister Souljah happened to Clinton. DOUBLE STANDARD?"

― Fuck Trump, cops, and the CBP (Neanderthal),

you're already correct about the first half of that.

Rep. Andy Harris (R-MD) insisted on Monday that President Donald Trump’s racist tirade about “progressive congresswomen” going back to where they came from was, in fact, not racist.

During a radio interview on WBAL NewsNow, host Bryan Nehman asked Harris if he believed Trump’s rant about the congresswomen was racist.

“No, they’re not. They’re obviously not racist,” Harris said. “But again, when anyone disagrees with someone now, you call them a racist and this is no exception.”

“Why’s it not racist when you say ‘Go back to where you came from’ when they’re Americans?” asked Nehman.

“Look, ask the President what he meant by it but clearly it’s not a racist comment,” the GOP lawmaker replied. “He could’ve meant go back to the district they came from, to the neighborhood they came from.”

Nehman asked incredulously, “Do you really believe he was talking about the district they came from?”

“Absolutely,” Harris said.

Karl Malone, Monday, 15 July 2019 15:16 (four years ago) link

in the 2018 election, Harris beat his Democratic opponent in MD's first district, 60% to 38%.

Karl Malone, Monday, 15 July 2019 15:18 (four years ago) link

, host Bryan Nehman asked Harris if he believed Trump’s rant about the congresswomen was racist.

jesus fucking christ will people stop this shit? Assume he's a racist and put him on the spot. "How do you defend the president's stupid, racist tweet?"

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 July 2019 15:19 (four years ago) link

seriously, why even imply the possibility of ambiguity here

rob, Monday, 15 July 2019 15:21 (four years ago) link

many people have offered up defenses A, B, C, and D for what is said to be a racially divisive remark by the president. which of those do you support, and do you have any new ideas for why he didn't do anything wrong?

Karl Malone, Monday, 15 July 2019 15:22 (four years ago) link

NYT notifications on my phone:

"President Trump's insult against congresswomen showed that when it comes to race, he plays with fire like no other, our correspodent writes."

"Today is Amazon Prime Day. Here's how to avoid getting sucked into buying gear you'll regret"

Karl Malone, Monday, 15 July 2019 15:23 (four years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/TcaBctV.jpg

Karl Malone, Monday, 15 July 2019 15:23 (four years ago) link

remember when AOC said straight up that Trump was racist and Anderson Cooper's reaction was "how can you say that??"

frogbs, Monday, 15 July 2019 15:24 (four years ago) link

Do you, a thoroughly-unobjective person who is ideologically aligned with the subject of inquiry and who will thusly twist himself in as many rhetorical knots as possible in concocting a response which is both butthurtedly hyperdefensive and disingenuous as fuck, believe that the president said something racist?

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Monday, 15 July 2019 15:26 (four years ago) link

the pellucid analysis of Peter Baker

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 July 2019 15:26 (four years ago) link

And now we go to the chairman of the Republicans are not Racist Committee for Free Tradw for comment

Karl Malone, Monday, 15 July 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link

love that the response of some GOP folks like brit hume is basically 'the real tragedy is people calling other people racists'

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:28 (four years ago) link

Have any 'moderate' Republicans condemned yesterday's trio of racist tweets? Be it only in sheepish terms?

pomenitul, Monday, 15 July 2019 18:32 (four years ago) link

Will Hurd and one other guy, apparently. that's it so far.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:34 (four years ago) link

the only black Republican in the House xp

Rep. Will Hurd (R-Texas) on Monday became the first GOP lawmaker to publicly condemn recent tweets from President Trump as “racist.” Speaking to CNN host Christiane Amanpour, Hurd not only said Trump’s tweets were “racist” and “xenophobic,” but also labeled them “inaccurate.”

“The four women he is referring to are actually citizens of the United States, three of the four were born here,” Hurd said. “It’s also a behavior thats unbecoming of the leader of the free world.”

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:34 (four years ago) link

OH Rep Mike Turner said it was racist and Trump should apologize

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:35 (four years ago) link

Have any 'moderate' Republicans condemned yesterday's trio of racist tweets? Be it only in sheepish terms?

susan collins weighed in with a principled, courageous take:

Susan Collins weighs in: “the President’s tweet that some Members of Congress should go back to the ‘places from which they came’ was way over the line, and he should take that down.” pic.twitter.com/NKRaZPx3iB

— Emily Cochrane (@ESCochrane) July 15, 2019

Karl Malone, Monday, 15 July 2019 18:47 (four years ago) link

way over the line man

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:48 (four years ago) link

Take that down, you naughty man.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:51 (four years ago) link

the interesting part about the first 2/3 of her statement, which focuses on all the things on "the far left" that she disagrees with, is that it implies that her opinion on the views of the far left has anything to do with whether or not it's right or wrong to say racist things

Karl Malone, Monday, 15 July 2019 18:51 (four years ago) link

Verily, she will be remembered as a valiant dissident.

pomenitul, Monday, 15 July 2019 18:51 (four years ago) link

well, Susan Collins responded, I'm satisfied.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:52 (four years ago) link

"Delete your acc... well, not your account, just that one problematic tweet."

nickn, Monday, 15 July 2019 18:52 (four years ago) link

although i prefer bicycles to scooters and think it's generally much cooler to ride a skateboard than a scooter, even though i've never been on a scooter, and i haven't had any experience with the scooter-share pilot program going in my city, i must say that it is wrong for your dog to be shitting all over thanksgiving dinner

Karl Malone, Monday, 15 July 2019 18:53 (four years ago) link

HOORRAY!!!! THE CONSCIENCE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WEIGHS IN

Karl Malone, Monday, 15 July 2019 18:53 (four years ago) link

Trump did not name who he was attacking in Sunday's tirade but earlier this week he referenced New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez when the President was defending House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
Asked Monday who he's talking about, Trump said: "You can guess."

he's such a fucking chickenshit

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:56 (four years ago) link

While whatever a man and a woman choose to do within the boundaries of holy matrimony is entirely up to them, I find it difficult to reconcile President Trump's assertion that Melania was screaming "Do it Donald" as opposed to "Don't do it Donald," (which is what the tape certainly appears to show) and must vigorously disagree with the President's decision to shave his wife's head on the front lawn of the White House. Nevertheless, Speaker Pelosi's demands that the First Lady should be properly attended to while she is chained to the stairs are offensive in their suggestion that our President is an inattentive husband. President Trump claims the tarp over her is extremely comfortable and Ms Trump has made no effort to move it; it doesn't take a genius to understand that this personal matter is being played for political gain. I urge our colleagues across the aisles to take a long hard look at themselves and question why they feel continually compelled to demand that the first lady needs water when the tarp clearly collects the morning dew to be funneled through the mouth-size hole at its center. This is just the sort of witch hunt the American people are all too tired of.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:57 (four years ago) link

Responding to this one tweet as if it's an unfortunate outlier is like tutting about the crudely-rendered dick spraypainted on your mailbox by the miscreant who's spent the last few years methodically destroying and otherwise defiling your home.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Monday, 15 July 2019 19:00 (four years ago) link

in Trump's second term he's gonna recreate "the brownout"

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 15 July 2019 19:08 (four years ago) link

@realDonaldTrump notes today on @AOC and @IlhanMN flipped and rotated #for your viewing pleasure. pic.twitter.com/42sdbsRivQ

— Jabin Botsford (@jabinbotsford) July 15, 2019

He actually wrote the words "some people" at the top of the page! He has to be reminded of one of his most common pieces of rhetorical punctuation! His brain really is a wheel of cheese melting in the sun...

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 15 July 2019 20:18 (four years ago) link

Al Caida

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 15 July 2019 20:26 (four years ago) link

ALCAIDA. Becasue no fucking way is he writing a Q without a U.

Ned Trifle X, Monday, 15 July 2019 20:28 (four years ago) link

omg is that what it was supposed to be?

The Worf of Wall Street (Leee), Monday, 15 July 2019 20:36 (four years ago) link

new coke failed in part because of the 1985 equivalent of reporters seeking out trump supporters in diners

https://www.motherjones.com/food/2019/07/what-if-weve-all-been-wrong-about-what-killed-new-coke/

maura, Monday, 15 July 2019 20:47 (four years ago) link

so if I don't like it here, where can I easily immigrate to that's really open, anyway?

untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 15 July 2019 20:48 (four years ago) link

he thinks "aim higher" comment from Graham means he should sling racist insults at people in higher political offices

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 15 July 2019 20:48 (four years ago) link

Just got to that moment in the press conference. Amazing.

jmm, Monday, 15 July 2019 20:53 (four years ago) link

"What am I supposed to do, just wait for senators?"

jmm, Monday, 15 July 2019 20:53 (four years ago) link

holy shit the women are killing it at the press conference

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 July 2019 21:38 (four years ago) link

Streaming? Or is it over?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 July 2019 21:46 (four years ago) link

It's over.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 July 2019 21:48 (four years ago) link

You can watch it here:

LIVE: @NBCNewsNow: Reps. Ocasio-Cortez, Omar, Pressley, Tlaib respond to President Trump's racist tweets. https://t.co/kkAkBN6Ypxhttps://t.co/8V0ubgOZDU

— NBC News (@NBCNews) July 15, 2019

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 15 July 2019 21:48 (four years ago) link

Thanks!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 July 2019 21:51 (four years ago) link

Alcaida Some People
Next thread title ok

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 02:31 (four years ago) link

ALCaiDa if you're going to spell it correctly, thanks

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 02:42 (four years ago) link

I'm in the comments section!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 12:11 (four years ago) link

I'll note, though, that the president, that masterful political strategist, has united the Dem caucus again. And, as importantly, most of the country doesn't care about Dems in Disarray.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 12:12 (four years ago) link

most of the country cares about their phones, period.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 12:45 (four years ago) link

deep

mott the hoopleheads (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 12:48 (four years ago) link

pro-terrorism & pro-swearing!!!

The Democrat Congresswomen have been spewing some of the most vile, hateful, and disgusting things ever said by a politician in the House or Senate, & yet they get a free pass and a big embrace from the Democrat Party. Horrible anti-Israel, anti-USA, pro-terrorist & public.....

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 16, 2019

.....shouting of the F...word, among many other terrible things, and the petrified Dems run for the hills. Why isn’t the House voting to rebuke the filthy and hate laced things they have said? Because they are the Radical Left, and the Democrats are afraid to take them on. Sad!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 16, 2019

frogbs, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 13:07 (four years ago) link

From this side of the Atlantic it's weird how being anti-Israel seems worse than being anti-USA.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 13:09 (four years ago) link

They go hand in hand iirc.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 13:10 (four years ago) link

It seems weird here too tbh.

Why can't they just shout the f-word in private, at their kids, like normal people.

Ned Trifle X, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 13:18 (four years ago) link

A reporter should ask him what the f-word is

Fuck Trump, cops, and the CBP (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 13:26 (four years ago) link

ah more sweet, sweet projection

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 13:54 (four years ago) link

his latest "Israel" spasms must mean Adelson has even more dough coming thru this election

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 14:02 (four years ago) link

maybe this will be the thing that finally causes him to stroke out. these women are not going to back down, and I feel like it's impossible for Trump to back down either unless someone in his orbit manages to find a way to distract him.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 14:31 (four years ago) link

How many hours until there's a Politico article about how unnamed House Dems feel frustrated that they have to defend the Squad

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 14:35 (four years ago) link

Just watched the squad response video this morning and my goodness, AYANNA PRESSLEY DID NOT COME TO PLAY.

I mean they were all good in that clip but her delivery is A+++ would subscribe to her newsetter.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 14:37 (four years ago) link

referring to them as "the Squad" is an intentional ploy to make them seem high schoolish, right? I can't imagine a group of male reps being referred to in this way.

frogbs, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link

I'm pretty sure they started calling themselves the Squad but it's impossible to verify at this point

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 14:42 (four years ago) link

AOC is definitely leaning into it on Twitter.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 14:44 (four years ago) link

oh yeah here it is (from November):

New progressive members of Congress posted photos on social media on Monday celebrating the diversity of the freshman class headed to Washington, D.C.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez shared a photo of herself with fellow Democratic representative-elects Ilhan Omar, Ayanna Pressley and Rashida Tlaib, aptly captioned: “Squad.”

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 14:48 (four years ago) link

right on...as you were :)

frogbs, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 14:53 (four years ago) link

All this hubbub the last couple days has knocked the Epstein/Acosta/Trump connections right out of the headlines, as was intended. If Dems don’t treat “Trump was friends with a pedophile” as the “But her emails” of 2019-2020, they are complete idiots. They should be smearing Trump with this stuff right up to accusing him of being a pedophile himself.

It’s not like he will sue for defamation and it would be great for Dems if he did!

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 14:59 (four years ago) link

Can you think of a possible rightwing response to “Trump was friends with Epstein”?

Hint: they are mildly obsessed with the Clintons

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 15:20 (four years ago) link

in a better world the Epstein scandal would rid us of both forever

Simon H., Tuesday, 16 July 2019 15:25 (four years ago) link

Those Tweets were NOT Racist. I don’t have a Racist bone in my body! The so-called vote to be taken is a Democrat con game. Republicans should not show “weakness” and fall into their trap. This should be a vote on the filthy language, statements and lies told by the Democrat.....

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 16, 2019

.....Congresswomen, who I truly believe, based on their actions, hate our Country. Get a list of the HORRIBLE things they have said. Omar is polling at 8%, Cortez at 21%. Nancy Pelosi tried to push them away, but now they are forever wedded to the Democrat Party. See you in 2020!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 16, 2019

Oh, ok. I guess that settles it.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 15:25 (four years ago) link

even if clinton weren't involved, do you think republicans would care that trump hung out with a pedophile? donald trump has probably raped multiple women, there are 2 sitting supreme court justices that have assaulted women, and republicans (and democrats) have a long history of looking the other way at sexual abuse in the church. what do they care about epstein and trump? we have to stop pretending like some sort of damning fact about what they've done will "bring them down".

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 15:25 (four years ago) link

JUST NOW: I asked @KellyannePolls, who’d just said @realDonaldTrump was not telling Omar/Tlaib/Pressley/AOC to go back to Somalia/Gaza/Puerto Rico/etc, which countries he was referring to.

She responded by asking me where my ancestors came from, thereby confirming what he meant

— Andrew Feinberg (@AndrewFeinberg) July 16, 2019

Omar is polling at 8%, Cortez at 21%

Omar is not polling at 8%.
Cortez is not polling at 21%.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 15:26 (four years ago) link

Capitalizing 'Racist' appears to be Very Important for him. Perhaps he's subtly signifying that he's just a run-of-the-mill, lowercase racist.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 15:28 (four years ago) link

I do believe Trump when he says he doesn't have a racist bone in his body. I think his body cavity is just filled with a semi-solid protoplasmic ooze of undiluted racism, like imagine a banana slug comprised entirely of race hate.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link

Racist exoskeleton with a Jame Gumb-style flesh suit.

Manfred Hemming-Hawing (WmC), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 15:33 (four years ago) link

really proud of the house leadership for starting this whole fucking shitshow on friday night and leaking that wack ass poll to axious, that is now being cited in bad faith by president caligula. good job.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 15:37 (four years ago) link

axiooooooooooooooos

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 15:37 (four years ago) link

Any serious policy solution to racism must begin with some kind of racist bone detector.

— Russell Brandom (@russellbrandom) June 30, 2019

rob, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 15:38 (four years ago) link

good morning!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 15:40 (four years ago) link

donald trump doesn't have a racist bone in his body!

he does have a racist brain, tho.

mott the hoopleheads (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 15:43 (four years ago) link

He only cares about blood.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 15:44 (four years ago) link

AAAAAAAGHGHGHGH

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 15:44 (four years ago) link

even if clinton weren't involved, do you think republicans would care that trump hung out with a pedophile? donald

trump has probably raped multiple women, there are 2 sitting supreme court justices that have assaulted women, and republicans (and democrats) have a long history of looking the other way at sexual abuse in the church. what do they care about epstein and trump? we have to stop pretending like some sort of damning fact about what they've done will "bring them down".

Who said anything about bringing them down? You just want to browbeat them with it so it dominates the conversation and suppresses turnout on the margins by 2-3% which could be decisive in a close election (which this will be).

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 15:45 (four years ago) link

https://img.fireden.net/tg/image/1495/82/1495825236912.jpg

pomenitul, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 15:47 (four years ago) link

I like to imagine after four years of 'Troll troll troll, bleepity-blorp, troll troll, derpy-derp. SAD!' tweets, some non-negligible portion of the population will have developed the skills to effortlessly mutter 'fucking ANYway...' and get on with discussing absolutely anything other than what the Troll-in-Chief wants us to be discussing. It's a dream I have, a beautiful dream.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 15:47 (four years ago) link

Who said anything about bringing them down?

"Bringing them down" means defeating trump at the polls.

at this point, trump is who he is. everyone has formed an opinion about him, and not too many minds are going to change as a result of whatever new terrible thing he does. his support may drop 2-3%, as you say, and then a week later it will go back up to where it was. we've seen almost 4 years of this now (counting his campaign). he was right when he said he could shoot someone on 5th avenue and no of his supporters would care.

so we know who he is, and we know how is immune. so take the fight to those who enable him - the racist republicans who don't have a word to say when the president says blatantly racist things. trump is immune. not all of the republicans are. it's time to stop ASKING republicans what they have to say about trump's racism. they have nothing to say. the baseline understanding, now, should be that they are all racists and that they enjoy the benefits of being leaders of the party at the twilight of the Southern Strategy.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 15:57 (four years ago) link

it wouldn't solve the root problems but I wake every day hoping he died in the night

SHANTY the golden fish portion (stevie), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:02 (four years ago) link

On one hand I can't believe that more people wouldn't care that there's a record of him raping 13-year old children. But on the other hand there's no sign that his supporters have cared about anything else he's done.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:10 (four years ago) link

Here's the thing, though: none of that is true, it's just a figment conjured up by the fake news media.

It really is that simple for these people.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:11 (four years ago) link

also did you hear about bill clinton and the 12 year old?

it's a page from the climate change denier playbook: it's not real, and if it is, it's actually not as bad as something else

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:12 (four years ago) link

They genuinely believe it too. Or so it seems.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:13 (four years ago) link

the pee tape could show up and now it would be dismissed as a deep fake

omar little, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:13 (four years ago) link

Empirical reality has long vanished. It's just a mythological battle of archetypes at this point, the neolithic age is back.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:14 (four years ago) link

I can't tell if I hate him more every day or if the hate has maxed out and it just manifests differently from day to day. But in any case, the guy who swears at rallies and is on tape saying "I moved on her like a bitch" and "grab em by the pussy" can get way the fuck out of here with his pearl-clutching wrt foul language.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:20 (four years ago) link

Trump doesn't think women should poop or swear.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link

I feel increasingly like the core of the problem is that, because the current context is sui generis in so many ways and was just suddenly plopped into this central position in our lives, we just don't have any pre-existing experience from which we can draw an effectual response and it's made everyone varying degrees of crazy. On every side you have people who can't wrap their heads around the behavior of this figure who's been imposed on everyone's life, and on one side they try to pretend that the worst stuff isn't happening or try to twist it into something they can still support, while on the other side people are just staring aghast with no idea of what to do. It's like the time my roommate walked into my bedroom at 4 AM and started pissing on my floor. I had no immediate means of understanding or responding to the acceptable parameters of reality being so rudely shattered.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:26 (four years ago) link

Good luck winning while talking about “the issues.”

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:26 (four years ago) link

I think you misunderstand me: don’t say he said something racist, say he is racist. Don’t say he knew a pedophile, say existing evidence points to him being a pedophile. Don’t say these things once or twice: they should be the core of the strategy. Repetition is how Trump beats his phrases into the media’s and public’s heads and controls the narrative - Dems must use the same strategy or they will lose (and maybe will anyway).

The American public is too dumb and uninformed to care about issues.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:32 (four years ago) link

We really need to cut it with that talking point already. The extent to which it's true is largely systemic and intentional and potentially-reversible if we refrain from treating the mass of the American public like a bunch of subhuman rubes.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:36 (four years ago) link

Like, yeah, without some effort to counter the effects, the kids currently being educated under the DeVos regime are likely to develop into incurious drudges. It's not like it's inherent to their character.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:38 (four years ago) link

cf one of Hillary's many errors was the deplorables thing, which succeeded in doing nothing except rallying the right wing.

omar little, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:38 (four years ago) link

Right. Dems need to cut it with the snoot. No one who's on the fence wants to join a team that's looking at them like a bunch of unwashed dipshits.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:40 (four years ago) link

So what doesn't count as an error when faced with this monstrosity?

pomenitul, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:40 (four years ago) link

she was too low on her deplorable %

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:41 (four years ago) link

The extent to which it's true is largely systemic and intentional

Ok

and potentially-reversible

Nah. Convincing them Will. Never. Happen. Best Hope is not to let them take over and drown us all with them.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:41 (four years ago) link

Wasn’t the foul language he accused the congresswomen of using just Trump’s words quoted back?

suzy, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:42 (four years ago) link

maybe in some cases, but i'm sure he's thinking of Rashida Tlaib's "impeach the motherfucker" comment, among others

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:43 (four years ago) link

Trump thrives when he's being attacked and since he'll go lower and his base will eat it up no mud-slinging will ever work, and maybe the single tactic that might work for the candidate facing him would be to take his policies seriously and treat him with respect and a gentle firmness and shit like "look i just think it's not working, and we need a change", be the intelligent one in the room because we know he can't compete at that level. and when people aren't attacking him and being calm with him, respectful to him, he wilts and lowers his guard.

omar little, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:45 (four years ago) link

I am ok with them using 'squad.' I am ok with people refusing to equate younger feminine terms with weakness/flightiness/any otherness.

Yerac, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:46 (four years ago) link

Trump thrives when he's being attacked and since he'll go lower and his base will eat it up no mud-slinging will ever work, and maybe the single tactic that might work for the candidate facing him would be to take his policies seriously and treat him with respect and a gentle firmness and shit like "look i just think it's not working, and we need a change", be the intelligent one in the room because we know he can't compete at that level. and when people aren't attacking him and being calm with him, respectful to him, he wilts and lowers his guard.

This always works with bullies.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:48 (four years ago) link

That was Obama’s strategy with Republicans for 8 years.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:49 (four years ago) link

If i just explain this Republican-sourced healthcare plan clearly and calmly, the Republicans and American people will come around.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:51 (four years ago) link

Warren should walk out for their first debate and fake a punch followed by two for flinching. Maybe save the atomic wedgie for the second debate?

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:54 (four years ago) link

I do think there's some appeal in at least trying to pin him down to some specifics, especially considering his interlocutors never do. like when he tries to say he's going to replace Obamacare with something really great, just keep hammering him to give you some actual fucking details about what that means. of course he's going to try and just say "you'll see, you'll see, we're working on something that people are going to be very happy with" but you can't let him off the hook like that. even something as basic as "how are you going to strip away everything else in the ACA and yet still ensure that people with pre-existing conditions can obtain affordable coverage?" because he obviously he has zero fucking clue.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:54 (four years ago) link

you go at his policies, debate him on policy, you don't attack him as if you need to highlight the fact that he's a piece of shit. everyone knows this. you highlight his politics, engage him at that level. good luck attacking him for being "deplorable". no one is going to suddenly say "hey wow you're right this Trump guy is bad news." the way to make him look bad is to try to get him to be a politician, not a personality. if he tries to change it, bring it back to policies every single time. don't take the bait.

omar little, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:57 (four years ago) link

Feel like yesterday's press conference with the Squad is a masterclass in how to respond/not respond to that dumb oaf.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 17:02 (four years ago) link

The suggestions above assume a level playing field that doesn't exist. Democrats committing similar sins to Republicans are punished more harshly because we self-regulate, but also because we're supposed to be the goody-goody party so any slipup is a bigger deal because we're supposed to be above it.

You know how many times I have read the opinion, in a situation where a Democrat shared actual "fake news" or exaggerated, that this is the type of thing that will put voters off and send them to Trump? A guy who knowingly makes shit up on a daily basis! We get penalized, he doesn't.

It's because the anti-liberal attack methods worked. As terrible and uncreative a word it is, "libtard" is well embedded in the political lexicon. Mainstream America associates liberalism with weakness and Clinton fumbles.

"Deplorables" galvanized his base, but Republican Congressmen were still fronting like they couldn't vote for Trump and acting as if the race was lost less than a month prior to the election.

We have to take the gloves off. Only the Squad has bothered to try.

Fuck Trump, cops, and the CBP (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 17:03 (four years ago) link

ideally I'd like to see a policy emphasis but delivered in a tone of sheer contempt and disbelief that someone so brazenly idiotic is our commander in chief. in a perfect world an opponent would quickly transcribe Trump's jello-brained response to a policy question and then read it back to him and say "what the actual fuck does any of that even mean?"

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 17:03 (four years ago) link

"Thank you moderator. I would like to start out by stating I have would love to have Socialism in US"
*crowd gasps*
"Oh wait...I meant to say I would NOT love to have Socialism in US." *winks at Trump*

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 17:07 (four years ago) link

I mean, Clinton did expose him on policy already. He basically rambled and used little other than Breitbart-esque appeals in his debates. Voters conceded he lost all three of them in polls.

He's losing major ground with independents, many of whom may have voted for him the last time around. Some of whom probably thought his rhetoric was just a ploy to get elected. Republican friends of mine have left the party. The shit is working, just not at the rate we want.

Fuck Trump, cops, and the CBP (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 17:07 (four years ago) link

the debates don't matter. smart people have already made up their mind, dumb people can't follow them.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link

"Feel like yesterday's press conference with the Squad is a masterclass in how to respond/not respond to that dumb oaf."

Pressley and Tliab were excellent; Omar and AOC were a little less focused. Pressley is really the badass of this bunch...steady, to the point, and she sounds incredibly authoritative when she talks.

akm, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 17:10 (four years ago) link

It's July 16, 2019, but if the midterm elections were any indication he's lost and is losing the margin of independents and suburbanites by which he eked out a 70,000 vote victory in '16. He's the incumbent, with history on his side; the race will be the most brutal of our lifetimes; but it's possible he'll lose.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 17:11 (four years ago) link

Like we act incredulous that nothing impacts his polls but the data is there. Republican voters will never leave him because they hate gays, Muslims and abortion so much that they'd never vote against a guy who hits all three, even if there was a 100% chance he would get us all killed.

These aren't the people we have to win. We can pick handfuls off.

Fuck Trump, cops, and the CBP (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 17:11 (four years ago) link

Xxxpost

Fuck Trump, cops, and the CBP (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 17:12 (four years ago) link

I posted this on a different thread last week but there have been no responses since, and it probably fits here better now anyway

Ive been watching a few prison channel youtubes this year (after prison show, big herc, lockdown 23and1), and a few recurring themes stood out, but one in particular stuck with me from guests and hosts

The relatively high levels of Non-partisan support for Trump.

At this point in the cycle we're all "well people have made their minds up now, anyone still supporting him is unreachable, how can they be ok with whats happening", but I felt like the people here supported Trump in an almost apolitical way. I could easily imagine some of these people saying exactly the same thing about Obama (or Bernie!), a kind of accepting, "well he's the boss, its a hard job, people make mistakes"

I've always believed its better to go on the offensive with positives/policies than on the negatives with attacks on Trump (or anyone else), but really felt the futility of attacking Trump, "why you got to attack the man, he's just trying to do his job" instead of selling them something different

Also there's a big lag in polling, people take years to change their minds, years for events to even register or sink in

anvil, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 17:23 (four years ago) link

Trump lost Minnesota in 2016 by only 44 k votes. His 2020 Minnesota strategy is to make the election a referendum on Ilhan Omar and by extension the 5th congressional district.

despondently sipping tomato soup (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link

Like we act incredulous that nothing impacts his polls but the data is there.

He started historically low (low 40s) and has been in the 35-45% window ever since. Nothing gets him below 35. Maybe an economic crash.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 17:25 (four years ago) link

I've always believed its better to go on the offensive with positives/policies than on the negatives with attacks on Trump (or anyone else)

This is why I believe Warren has such a good chance. She says, in effect, "Yeah, he's a piece of shit, but we've got other real problems. Here's how I'd fix them." And she doesn't allow herself to be distracted from that mission - pointing out problems and explaining her solutions.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 17:28 (four years ago) link

except for that part where she was distracted by the Pocahantas jibe

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 17:29 (four years ago) link

I've always believed its better to go on the offensive with positives/policies than on the negatives with attacks on Trump (or anyone else),

Lol, there are studies that have found otherwise.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 17:31 (four years ago) link

When were these studies from? Negatives have worked historically when attempting to expose, Trump (and those like him) have changed all that

anvil, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 17:33 (four years ago) link

Negatives on Biden would work because the public perception and the reality differ. But Trump?

anvil, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 17:34 (four years ago) link

pointing out problems and explaining her solutions

Part of the problem is that many of these problems aren't deemed such. Official economic figures, a businessman in the White House, low unemployment rates, etc. are enough to make most of the hesitant 'forget' the rest.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link

what personal negatives about Trump can be highlighted that are going to make people change their minds? it's all out there, which is why it's a losing proposition. all of Trump's shit was out there well in advance of the '16 election and remains out there, and anything new is going to have no effect ("he raped someone? ok whatever more fake news...."), which meant that any minor bump in the road for Hillary was going to have a worse effect on her than anything would have on Trump. which is why Comey's "hang on we're just checking something in her emails again, oh never mind it's nothing" maybe cost her the election.

omar little, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link

Trump lost Minnesota in 2016 by only 44 k votes. His 2020 Minnesota strategy is to make the election a referendum on Ilhan Omar and by extension the 5th congressional district.

Facebook Grampas like to point out the Omar's district is THE Al Qaeda hot bed in the whole USA.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 17:37 (four years ago) link

sorry that was garbled but i think any minor personal issue with any of these candidates is going to have a markedly worse effect than anything they try to sling at Trump even if it's twenty times worse. or one hundred times worse.

omar little, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 17:37 (four years ago) link

He started historically low (low 40s) and has been in the 35-45% window ever since. Nothing gets him below 35. Maybe an economic crash.

― Karl Malone, Tuesday, July 16, 2019 1:25 PM bookmarkflaglink

Around inauguration, he was close to 50%. The drop to low 40s happened shortly after that.

He was also in the upper 30s prior to the tax reform. That seemed to get him a permanent boost into the 40s.

But he stays there for no reason other than 90+% of Republican voters say they approve of him. They're the sole reason.

Fuck Trump, cops, and the CBP (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 17:39 (four years ago) link

Warren "scamming" her way into college by lying about NA ancestry is somehow a bigger deal than Trump scamming thousands of people with a fake university. Nothing matters, this country is full of dumbfucks.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 17:40 (four years ago) link

Maybe the Dem candidate should send dem voters a note saying ignore the campaign and say nothing but hateful shit and get elected and be all like just kidding

Fuck Trump, cops, and the CBP (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link

In any case our best outcome is Trump dropping the fuck dead. Heart attack, stroke, i don't care. I no longer care if he gets "held accountable"

Fuck Trump, cops, and the CBP (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 17:44 (four years ago) link

I think the Epstein thing has legs because it involves children (cf. Roy Moore). Trump views it as a problem, which is why he started acting out as soon as the Epstein story started dominating the cycle.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 17:45 (four years ago) link

why Comey's "hang on we're just checking something in her emails again, oh never mind it's nothing" maybe cost her the election.

no maybe about it

I know people are still shellshocked about 2016 but lets look at the facts for a bit. Hillary Clinton was the most unpopular Democratic nominee ever, in no small part due to 25 years of sustained right-wing attacks against her, including 9 Benghazi investigations whose stated purpose was to lower her poll numbers. 10 days before the election, she was rocked by a re-opening of what was the biggest knock against her, the one "issue" the MSM talked about more than literally anything else. Despite all this, she won the popular vote by about 3 million, but lost the election due to the quirks of the electoral college, losing states like Wisconsin which she'd never campaigned in (a mistake the Dems are not going to repeat in 2020).

yes, Trump has the incumbent advantage, but look at his popularity - even with a strong economy and no wars (yet), he still can't get above 42-43%, indicating that there is indeed a hard ceiling to his support. we despair that he can seemingly never lose the bottom 35% or whatever but at the end of the day he can't do any better than where he is now. 2018 was widely seen as a referendum on Trump and he got destroyed. I still think the Dems are going to be big favorites in 2020. Obviously I won't put it past them to fuck it up, a process which I can see starting already, but still. "How do we beat Trump?" should not exactly be a big question mark for these people.

frogbs, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link

I think the Epstein thing has legs because it involves children (cf. Roy Moore). Trump views it as a problem, which is why he started acting out as soon as the Epstein story started dominating the cycle.

― Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Tuesday, July 16, 2019 1:45 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I don't think most of Trump's base equates grown men having sex with 15 year-old girls as child rape. "She told me she was 18" is more than enough of excuse for those people.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 17:57 (four years ago) link

It seems like on most Dem fuckups, Trump takes a dive 1/4 into his victory lap.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 17:57 (four years ago) link

I think the Epstein thing has legs because it involves children (cf. Roy Moore). Trump views it as a problem, which is why he started acting out as soon as the Epstein story started dominating the cycle.

― Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Tuesday, July 16, 2019 1:45 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I don't think most of Trump's base equates grown men having sex with 15 year-old girls as child rape. "She told me she was 18" is more than enough of excuse for those people.

― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, July 16, 2019 1:57 PM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

You are right about 90% of his voters. You are really looking to suppress the vote of the last 5-10% who have any sort of conscience.

I am not saying this is your sole message. You also speak about policies that will appeal to YOUR base to turn out your own vote. But turning the other cheek instead of getting in the mud and taking a few swings is dumb.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 18:13 (four years ago) link

Its not so much about turning the other cheek its about trying to control the narrative. The narrative right now is his comments on Ilhan and the others, and the child rape thing is forgotten. Winning or losing this fight is an irrelevance to him, whats important is to have this fight instead of anything Epstein related

anvil, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 18:18 (four years ago) link

You are really looking to suppress the vote of the last 5-10% who have any sort of conscience.

exactly. Hillary's "I should be 50 points ahead" comment felt particularly tone deaf from someone who'd been in public life for three decades - that is simply not the way electoral politics work. whoever said a ham sandwich would get 40% of the popular vote was absolutely right. Trump has no room for error in 2020. pick the issues that actually do drop his numbers a tad and press 'em. even if it's "hey asshole, where's your stupid wall?"

frogbs, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 18:20 (four years ago) link

"obstructionist Dems who care more about MS-13 than US citizens & want open borders illegally blocked me from building a great beautiful wall"

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 18:45 (four years ago) link

This conversation is great, we definitely haven’t done this on every single monthly thread

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 18:50 (four years ago) link

Relitigate-Gate

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 18:54 (four years ago) link

Treeeeeshiip where arrrrrre you

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 19:21 (four years ago) link

just c+p his posts from last month's thread into this one

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 19:23 (four years ago) link

Can we talk instead about how uncomfortable the next week or so is going to be in the Conway household?

brigadier pudding (DJP), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 19:24 (four years ago) link

let’s not play into the conways’ fetishes pls

Yes, I feel like their divisive public stances re: Trump is all just foreplay, to be both blunt and gross.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 19:34 (four years ago) link

50 shades of trolly cosplay

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 19:48 (four years ago) link

donald trump doesn't have a racist bone in his body!
he does have a racist brain, tho.
― mott the hoopleheads (voodoo chili)

AOC reading the thread

You’re right, Mr. President - you don’t have a racist bone in your body.

You have a racist mind in your head, and a racist heart in your chest.

That’s why you violate the rights of children and tell the Congresswoman who represents your home borough, to “go back to my country.” https://t.co/adlCUO7r0v

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) July 16, 2019

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 19:55 (four years ago) link

greetings lurker aoc

mott the hoopleheads (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 20:04 (four years ago) link

Missed chance for kidney hearts. u_u

Coelacanth Green (Leee), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 20:07 (four years ago) link

anything one might say about trump is out of order

Regardless of the content of Trump’s racist statement, Democrats are going to have a hard time not taking down Pelosi’s words.

Jefferson’s Manual literally says you can’t refer to a statement by the President as racist on the House floor. pic.twitter.com/CeIJA24TS9

— Matt Fuller (@MEPFuller) July 16, 2019

mookieproof, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 20:38 (four years ago) link

Any teacher recognizes the debate they're having right now as your #1 default out: "I didn't say you're an idiot, I said what you did was idiotic."

clemenza, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 20:51 (four years ago) link

stopped clock theory of racism

if you look at the clock a few times and it says it's not quite noon but it's within a certain margin of error, you think hey, I usually only check when it's nearly time for lunch so it's probably running a little slow or fast

if you check it by looking throughout the day and it always says it's around noon, you have a racist clock

untuned mass damper (mh), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 21:05 (four years ago) link

Using decades of experience in government to pass a resolution condemning the President’s posts pic.twitter.com/QiUobys05O

— Patrick Monahan (@pattymo) July 16, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 21:21 (four years ago) link

"shoot someone on 5th Ave" is prob more accurately stated as he could do it, people would spend the next week arguing whether it truly was murder and then it'd be forgotten

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 21:35 (four years ago) link

The House voted against striking Speaker Nancy Pelosi's (D-Calif.) floor remarks blasting President Trump from the record on Tuesday after the House parliamentarian in a rare rebuke of the Speaker said her comments violated House rules.

The vote on the motion to strike Pelosi’s remarks failed in a 190-232 vote with no Democratic support. Every Republican voted in favor of the motion.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 22:39 (four years ago) link

Every Republican voted in favor of the motion.
Every Republican voted in favor of the motion.
Every Republican voted in favor of the motion.
Every Republican voted in favor of the motion.
Every Republican voted in favor of the motion.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 22:41 (four years ago) link

“What has really happened here is that the president and his supporters have been forced to endure months of allegations of racism,” said Representative Dan Meuser, Republican of Pennsylvania. “This ridiculous slander does a disservice to our nation.”

holy shit, is this what it's like to be red pilled. it turns out that everything i knew was wrong. thank so much, dan meuser

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 23:10 (four years ago) link

It's funny how a lifetime of acting like a racist leads people to believe that you are a racist

brigadier pudding (DJP), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 23:13 (four years ago) link

Being blatantly racist in an era where racism is cool and wins elections and puts a racist president in the White House is one thing. But being forced to endure months of allegations of racism, that is truly something else. When will the world finally end the suffering of the racist white man being forced to endure these allegations?

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 23:19 (four years ago) link

I like Swalwell ignoring the parliamentarian (or whoever she was): fuck the House rules. There are no rules anymore.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 23:20 (four years ago) link

The House on Tuesday voted to formally admonish President Trump, approving a resolution condemning as “racist” his tweets targeting four minority congresswomen.

The 240-187 vote fell largely along partisan lines, as GOP leaders had rushed to the president’s defense in whipping against the measure.

Just four Republicans, Reps. Susan Brooks (Ind.), Brian Fitzpatrick (Pa.), William Hurd (Texas) and Fred Upton (Mich.), broke with party ranks to join every voting Democrat, revealing the extent to which Trump’s incendiary remarks had jarred Capitol Hill and forced even some of his closest allies to denounce his behavior.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 23:29 (four years ago) link

that last sentence is hilarious and terrible

brigadier pudding (DJP), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 23:31 (four years ago) link

revealing the extent to which Trump’s incendiary remarks had jarred Capitol Hill and forced even some of his closest allies to denounce his behavior suckle at his taint.

fixed.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 23:50 (four years ago) link

I hate you for planting that image in my head.

Coelacanth Green (Leee), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 00:12 (four years ago) link

get yrself a cool shirt yall (but do NOT under any circumstances ~fuck~ la migra)

gbx, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 01:08 (four years ago) link

Your helping of schadenfreude, featuring Tennessee's disgraced speaker of the house. Money quote:

"Due to his advanced age and the circumstances of his unemployment, it is highly unlikely that Mr. Casada will be able to secure comparable employment."

In 2009, Casada was one of the plaintiffs in a lawsuit in federal court, Captain Pamela Barnett v. Barack Hussein Obama, which claimed that Barack Obama was not an American citizen and therefore ineligible to be President of the United States. Judge David O. Carter ruled that Casada and other state legislators did not have standing to sue, since the supposed harm they feared was "highly speculative and conjectural."[4]

☮ (peace, man), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 11:23 (four years ago) link

House resolution included praise for Reagan

fuck that

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 12:13 (four years ago) link

Chris Cuomo's generally unbearable, and I don't watch him often, but I had CNN on for most of yesterday. This was kind of amazing. You throw the softball question out there to presumably set the interviewee up a for second question, but the second question, whatever it was, becomes unnecessary.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/07/17/kris-kobach-asked-would-he-support-admittedly-racist-president-trump-cpt-sot-vpx.cnn

clemenza, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 12:16 (four years ago) link

That reminded me of Trump's "I've got to find out more about this David Duke guy before I say anything bad about him" answer to Tapper

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 14:18 (four years ago) link

The Big Wet Boy's gonna be in my state tonight, promising to "talk also about people who love, and hate, our Country (mostly love)!"

Can't wait!

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 14:20 (four years ago) link

It struck me as I was waking up this morning that one potentially (potentially) effective line of attack is to paint these overtly xenophobic positions and policies as expressions of cowardice. It feels like it could land both because it's true and because there's a fair amount of overlap between bigotry and the importance of appearing RUFF + TUFF. There's obviously a lot more insidious complexity involved in the act of othering, but it occurs to me that proponents of diversity (or let's just use the shorthand of 'dems' in this particular instance) could benefit from consistently framing these turds as a gaggle of nervous nellies who create boogiemen from whole cloth because they can't handle the relatively harmless reality of increasing multicultralism.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 14:43 (four years ago) link

That reliably got my brother-in-law's goat when we were on speaking terms, so I like this.

Manfred Hemming-Hawing (WmC), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 14:53 (four years ago) link

conservatives have larger amydgalas

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 14:54 (four years ago) link

I think the way Cuomo hammered him was very effective. Obviously Kobach himself is a racist shitbag, but it's good to press him on this and call him out when he doesn't have an immediate clear response.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 15:24 (four years ago) link

Like, put them in a spot where they have to choose a side that's either anti-republican/Trump or pro-racist.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 15:26 (four years ago) link

“You know, they talk about people of color. I’m a person of color,” Rep. Mike Kelly (R-PA) told Vice News reporter Daniel Newhauser Tuesday as they discussed Trump telling the four congresswomen — Reps. Ilhan Omar (D-MN), Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), Ayanna Pressley (D-MA) and Rashida Tlaib (D-MI) — to go back to their home countries, even though all four are U.S. citizens and three were born in the U.S.

“I’m white. I’m an Anglo Saxon. People say things all the time, but I don’t get offended,” he said.

“Has anybody ever told you to go back to your country?” Newhauser asked.

“Yeah they have actually. With a name like Mike Kelly you can’t be from any place else but Ireland.’”

learning about how tough it is for all these rich white guys, it's really been galaxybrain.jpg for me all week

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 16:47 (four years ago) link

estimated net worth of $17 million, which makes it so difficult for him to understand the plight of the commoners he represents (which is very stressful for him), and on top of that people are always telling him to go back to ireland. but he doesn't complain.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 16:48 (four years ago) link

Mike, when they tell you to go back to your home, I think they mean hell. Just fyi.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 16:51 (four years ago) link

I’m white. I’m an Anglo Saxon. People say things all the time, but I don’t get offended,” he said.

your name is mike kelly dumbass.

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 16:54 (four years ago) link

Hold one, he's white and Anglo Saxon from Ireland?

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 16:56 (four years ago) link

SNAP!

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 16:57 (four years ago) link

Jesus, these people are so dim.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 16:57 (four years ago) link

look, mike kelly is feeling extra persecuted recently. please, go easy on him

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 17:05 (four years ago) link

Granted, operating a racist agenda while simultaneously purporting that racism has long been eradicated in America is mentally taxing.

confusementalism (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 17:06 (four years ago) link

It is of course entirely possible that he's one those fake Irish Irish Americans that seem to proliferate in the USA.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 17:10 (four years ago) link

xpost Also while simultaneously claiming to be a victim of racial discrimination. It's just wheels within wheels.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 17:11 (four years ago) link

Omar. I took a terrorism class in college and every time my professor said Al Qaeda, he raised his shoulders," " You wouldn't do that if you say America or Britain, or the Army" She seemed so proud of Al Qaeda. Not so proud of America or of our Army. But Trumps a Racist.

— Chuck Woolery (@chuckwoolery) July 15, 2019

Mash the keypad on your jitterbug if you smell burning toast

— Mass for Shut-ins (podcast) (@gin_and_tacos) July 16, 2019

dying

frogbs, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 17:39 (four years ago) link

chuck woolery's galaxy brain is a thing to behold

LBJ DID IT AND DEMOCRATS LOVE HIM. Don Cheadle: ‘Trump Could Call Somebody N***er and Wouldn‘t Lose Voters‘ https://t.co/wM67uVkwHn via @BreitbartNews

— Chuck Woolery (@chuckwoolery) July 17, 2019

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 17:46 (four years ago) link

they taught Terrorism classes when Chuck Woolery was in college?

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link

lol Chuck Woolery (who I forgot even still existed,) Scott Baio, Victoria Jackson... I just figured out why they're Trump fans, he's going to bring the conservative entertainment industry back for them just like the coal mines.

confusementalism (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 18:02 (four years ago) link

James Woods and Jon Voight starring in...BRAINWORMS

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link

hmmm I wonder why Democrats could look upon LBJ more favorably than Trump *cough* Civil Rights Act *cough*

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link

Also it's not like LBJ is some unimpeachable figure that Democrats find completely unproblematic!

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link

yep praise for LBJ is pretty limited in scope from what I've seen
xp

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 18:10 (four years ago) link

truly think it's difficult for them to grasp that liberals can have mixed feelings prominent liberals

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link

^about

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link

Also it was fifty years ago, and also the alternative to Johnson was freaking Goldwater.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link

vocabulary shocker for Texan born in 1908

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link

the replies to Chuck's LBJ tweet making fun of Don Cheadle for being a celebrity with an opinion on politics, seemingly unaware that they are cosigning another celebrity's opinion on politics...

people are thicker than shit

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 18:14 (four years ago) link

"truly think it's difficult for them to grasp that liberals can have mixed feelings prominent liberals"

this is def true. Their main response to Trump/Epstein is "But Clinton". I don't know any liberals who are defending Clinton / Epstein.

akm, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 18:14 (four years ago) link

well, LBJ was our last liberal president

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 18:16 (four years ago) link

Chuck Woolery is embroiled in controversy in 2019? I would not have thought that possible. Up next: Warner Wolf.

clemenza, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 19:02 (four years ago) link

Glad Gene Rayburn isn’t around to see what’s become of Chuck Woolery.

— Vadim Rizov (@vrizov) July 16, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 19:06 (four years ago) link

so, according to DOJ policies, a sitting president can't be indicted

and according to Mueller's logic in his report, he can't recommend charging a sitting president for a crime, because doing so would be unfair to the president because they wouldn't have a chance to defend themselves in a court of law (because they can't be indicted). (99.959345204% of people in this dim country do not understand this)

and also, according to some rule of decorum in the house of representatives, no one can say that the president is racist, either directly or by citing others who have done so, or by pointing out that something the president said is literally the textbook definition of racism.

finally, trump is the most unfairly treated president in history

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 19:06 (four years ago) link

Think of how bad you'd have to be at politics to not have ads featuring this footage on loop from now until election day 2020 https://t.co/MXlpvNSFAT

— Michael T Sweeney (@mtsw) July 17, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link

calling someone racist is against the rules but being racist is not , welcome to America

frogbs, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 19:19 (four years ago) link

also, racism is actually cool

Republican support for U.S. President Donald Trump rises after racially charged tweets: @Reuters/Ipsos poll https://t.co/LL9fIA4RLU via @Cmkahn pic.twitter.com/9DMqKVqoCG

— Reuters Top News (@Reuters) July 17, 2019

frogbs, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 19:36 (four years ago) link

I wonder if this means there will be more racism?

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 19:37 (four years ago) link

Think of how bad you'd have to be at politics to not have ads featuring this footage on loop from now until election day 2020 https://t.co/MXlpvNSFAT
— Michael T Sweeney (@mtsw) July 17, 2019
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, July 17, 2019 3:11 PM (twenty-three minutes ago)

Bingo.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 19:39 (four years ago) link

honestly the most useful thing tom steyer could do is pay for that

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 20:25 (four years ago) link

None of this ever ends up being fun.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link

I think we learned in '16 that laying out documentary evidence of DJT's odious acts is not, by itself, enough.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 20:45 (four years ago) link

Of course not. But I'll take all the Schadenfreude I can get.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 20:46 (four years ago) link

schadenfreude - the #1 ranked travel snack in the post-apocalyptic landscape!

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 20:48 (four years ago) link

"Send Her Back"

... (Eazy), Thursday, 18 July 2019 00:11 (four years ago) link

the best Stevie Nicks solo single imo

https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-17-2015/7xZom3.gif

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 July 2019 00:12 (four years ago) link

Saw that one coming

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 July 2019 00:15 (four years ago) link

There are no words

xxpost

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 18 July 2019 01:39 (four years ago) link

That rally footage is creepy as fuck. Just go ahead and drape a KKK poster in the background. Fuck all of them

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 July 2019 01:43 (four years ago) link

awwww David French is disgusted

Agree with Guy. “Send her back” is completely and totally unacceptable. It’s not a defense of Omar to say this is not how we treat American citizens. https://t.co/8bJXgWjMEC

— David French (@DavidAFrench) July 18, 2019

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 July 2019 01:46 (four years ago) link

that rally was awful

Dan S, Thursday, 18 July 2019 01:49 (four years ago) link

He's the perfect reprobate figurehead for all of the unprincipled american voters, and he has rallied them shockingly well. The new turn in this story, focusing on the democratic congresswomen, really makes me afraid he's going to win again

Dan S, Thursday, 18 July 2019 02:13 (four years ago) link

Eh, not necessarily. "Louder" and "more racist" aren't guarantees of victory.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 July 2019 02:15 (four years ago) link

I hope you are right Alfred, but it is starting to feel like it might be.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 18 July 2019 02:24 (four years ago) link

You think he'll win back the suburbanites whom he lost last November with this swill?

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 July 2019 02:28 (four years ago) link

depends on who comes out to vote, that's everything. I really hope our side is more motivated next year

Dan S, Thursday, 18 July 2019 02:32 (four years ago) link

This sure motivates me, hope it does you

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 July 2019 02:32 (four years ago) link

lol yes!

Dan S, Thursday, 18 July 2019 02:33 (four years ago) link

mother fuck these garbage people. going to redirect my monthly allotment for pol contributions to the four of them until the 2020 election. and when i have extra, it's going to Omar.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 18 July 2019 02:46 (four years ago) link

win or lose, this is scary business

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 18 July 2019 02:47 (four years ago) link

trump will go away someday but all these turds who love him arent going anywhere, you cant just undo this by getting rid of him

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 18 July 2019 04:33 (four years ago) link

that's what disturbs me. but...they've always been there. maybe when Trump goes away, they lose cohesion, access to power, and public boldness.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 18 July 2019 04:41 (four years ago) link

Of course he's going to win again, an electorally significant number of Americans wanted this kind of president, and he has met their expectations plus the economy numbers look good if you don't dig below the surface.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 18 July 2019 04:44 (four years ago) link

and they're gonna vote for president ivanka someday

j., Thursday, 18 July 2019 04:47 (four years ago) link

or Kardashian

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 18 July 2019 05:27 (four years ago) link

Some encouraging news this morning.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 July 2019 11:19 (four years ago) link

this has all become worse than i ever thought it would be

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 18 July 2019 12:20 (four years ago) link

I've expected the n-word and "bitch" at rallies since spring '16, and we may yet get them.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 July 2019 12:33 (four years ago) link

The n-word would still sort of surprise me simply because so many of these morons seem to believe as long as they don't use it they can plausibly deny their bigotry.

Chris L, Thursday, 18 July 2019 12:45 (four years ago) link

Anything goes, except women of colour using the f-word.

pomenitul, Thursday, 18 July 2019 12:46 (four years ago) link

My evangelical acquaintances (cons but of the Jimmy Carter type) on fb today are noting the president’s profanity last night, that is, his violation of the third commandment, apparently for the first time at a rally. That used to be the worst thing you could say for conservative Christians, but my acquaintances expect that he’ll again get an exception as the culture further degrades.

L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 18 July 2019 12:55 (four years ago) link

Anything the left tells them they should feel ashamed for they will instead start yelling it louder.

Evan, Thursday, 18 July 2019 12:58 (four years ago) link

Anything the left tells them they should feel ashamed for they will instead start yelling it louder.

Evan, Thursday, 18 July 2019 12:58 (four years ago) link

Whoops

Evan, Thursday, 18 July 2019 12:58 (four years ago) link

Nobody GAF what I think, but engaging in premature, despairing concession to Trump 2020, always accompanied by moaning “this is who we are” or something to that effect, is as offensive to me as actually being a Trump supporter, or as close as makes no difference.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 18 July 2019 12:58 (four years ago) link

^^^ otm

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 July 2019 12:59 (four years ago) link

I'm generalizing here, but eight or nine times out of ten it's my white acquaintances who engage in croakings of doom. I got angrier and more resolved after last night.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 July 2019 12:59 (four years ago) link

yes

SHANTY the golden fish portion (stevie), Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:02 (four years ago) link

evangelical acquaintances (cons but of the Jimmy Carter type)

is this a type? Jimmy Carter conservatives?

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:02 (four years ago) link

Carter was the first president to command explicit fundie support

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:03 (four years ago) link

Interesting article about ways Europe and Australia try to deter migrants and the ways in which harsher policies with more politically correct language often elicit less outrage than more permissive policies accompanied by racist language:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/18/world/trump-migration.html

o. nate, Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:05 (four years ago) link

xp yeah but that was before the ascent of Ralph Reed and xtian coalition etc.

he was pro-choice (not personally but as policy) among other things

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:07 (four years ago) link

Yes, they’re a type, though not electorally important. These people probably voted for Bush in 2000 but Kerry in 2004, and Obama in both 2008 and 2012. But they’re not registered Dems.

L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:08 (four years ago) link

tombot otm re: despairing concession.

I am guilty of engaging in this, but when I do it's really just to relieve a sense of powerlessness...seeing that chant at the rally last night, zeroing in on one person in the crowd and imagining the impossibility of changing her worldview...it's a kind of relief to just throw up your hands occasionally

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:08 (four years ago) link

Nobody GAF what I think, but engaging in premature, despairing concession to Trump 2020, always accompanied by moaning “this is who we are” or something to that effect, is as offensive to me as actually being a Trump supporter, or as close as makes no difference.

― El Tomboto, Thursday

i have to believe that a much more polarizing election than even 2016 will favor those of us that aren't openly racist or sympathizers of those that are but shit for now it's hard not to feel some kind of dread about it all turning out horribly again.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:09 (four years ago) link

xxxposts

tbf lots of white people—progressive urbanites incl—are sometimes exposed to words and ideas of actual family, soc media “friends”, and even random strangers who’ve mistakenly presumed they’re in a ‘safe space’ that POCs might not.

but honestly what causes the most despair for me personally is craven Democratic leaders who continue to undercut popular ideas and the only politicians in their party who are arguing for anything close to an alternative to outright plutocracy and environmental destruction

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:16 (four years ago) link

and pls don’t read that as “spare a thought for the poor put-upon white progressive” — def not what I mean

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:18 (four years ago) link

Despair is fine as long as Sisyphus loses none of his stubbornness and pugnaciousness.

pomenitul, Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:19 (four years ago) link

So just to be clear, the reason we aren't starting impeachment on the most criminal "president" in history is so that we don't alienate this crowd of mouth breathers at the #TrumpRally chanting "send them back"? Cool strategy, Dems. #ImpeachNow

— Danny Zuker (@DannyZuker) July 18, 2019

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:29 (four years ago) link

i don't even know who that is but the sentiment is not lost on me

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:30 (four years ago) link

I didn’t watch the rally so I feel about the same as 2 days ago.

Vape Store (crüt), Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:31 (four years ago) link

a couple weeks ago I thought about starting a catastrophism quarantine thread to vent/brace yourself for the possibility of trump's reelection, but I decided there are already too many US politics threads

rob, Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:32 (four years ago) link

I just unfriended a bunch of women on fb because in the midst of all this, while they usually don't post anything political, all of a sudden they felt obligated to post something about how Melania is so pretty or how AOC is so annoying. I sent them each a private "oh this is who you are?" message and then unfriended.

Yerac, Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:45 (four years ago) link

^^^ like this is as gross to me as people (otm usually white) still constantly lamenting how emotionally upset they are/despairing concession while nothing in their life has materially changed besides their reading habits.

Yerac, Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:52 (four years ago) link

TBF I don't need things to materially change in my own life to be upset about how things are materially changing in the lives of others.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:53 (four years ago) link

Who didn't vote for Trump in 2016 but will in 2020? There are only so many racist(+) first-time voters tho I assume that is who he is targeting the most.

nashwan, Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:55 (four years ago) link

were they people that liked him but stayed home because he wasn't racist enough ? idk probably

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:58 (four years ago) link

how much would he have to lose the popular vote by to cause active uprising? 5 million? 10 million?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 18 July 2019 14:02 (four years ago) link

You mean how much would he have to lose by and still win the electoral college? The threshold is at least 3 million. Everyone already seems to have forgiven and forgotten about that

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 July 2019 14:04 (four years ago) link

There’s no better system than the electoral college, you just have to accept that 40% of the presidential elections in the 21st century have been won by the loser

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 July 2019 14:06 (four years ago) link

i would guess that number could easily be bumped and fudged to at least five million with zero repercussions beside four more years of ongoing litigation and general hand wringing, but they're clearly shameless and unwilling to relinquish power so I guess i'm asking what sort of mandate would be necessary for these fuckers to voluntarily step out of the way

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 18 July 2019 14:07 (four years ago) link

if he wins the EC there's not going to be an uprising no matter what the popular vote discrepancy might be. hopefully it won't come to that. I think the likelier scenario is that he loses the EC by a slim margin but refuses to accept the outcome and demands a DOJ investigation into imagined "voting irregularities" in one or two swing states.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 18 July 2019 14:11 (four years ago) link

ftr, i'm not saying i think that's the likeliest scenario. it just sucks that even if this election is roughly a 50-50 proposition right now, some percentage of the outcomes in which Trump loses are going to involve this scenario or something like it coming to pass, whereas if he wins I think essentially every scenario just involves everyone saying "oh well" and moving on.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 18 July 2019 14:16 (four years ago) link

Luckily politicians can’t redraw state lines every 10 years like they do with Congressional districts or the discrepancy could be even larger.

o. nate, Thursday, 18 July 2019 14:17 (four years ago) link

weird that the people I have on FB who have been whining for five days straight about being called racist are now actively cheering on the "send her back" chants

frogbs, Thursday, 18 July 2019 14:21 (four years ago) link

Unfriend, irl and on Facebook

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 July 2019 14:24 (four years ago) link

tbf we forced them into cheering by being shrill

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 18 July 2019 14:32 (four years ago) link

don't really see them IRL anymore but part of me enjoys having high blood pressure and getting into the occasional argument for dumb idiots

frogbs, Thursday, 18 July 2019 14:34 (four years ago) link

i don't unfriend people i disagree with unless they're really just getting on my nerves all the time

Vape Store (crüt), Thursday, 18 July 2019 14:34 (four years ago) link

to that point though they really don't care how racist it is they get off on the "liberal tears" it generates first and foremost

xxp

Evan, Thursday, 18 July 2019 14:34 (four years ago) link

Nobody GAF what I think, but engaging in premature, despairing concession to Trump 2020, always accompanied by moaning “this is who we are” or something to that effect, is as offensive to me as actually being a Trump supporter, or as close as makes no difference.

― El Tomboto, Thursday, July 18, 2019 12:58 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

I'm generalizing here, but eight or nine times out of ten it's my white acquaintances who engage in croakings of doom. I got angrier and more resolved after last night.

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, July 18, 2019 12:59 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Feel this, I agree there's no use for despair or croakings. But now that we've gotten a real taste of what the 2020 race is going to be, it is pretty alarming. It's one thing to anticipate it, it's another to actually see and hear the rallies. The rising fascism talk gets less and less hyperbolic all the time.

https://www.newstatesman.com/world/north-america/2019/07/donald-trumps-attacks-ilhan-omar-show-fascism-coming-us?fbclid=IwAR0OcH7eFi336DHZS_LxkyL7bc0mL8KXdbeN14Pv9hyWfBgcx9_QpbZbA20

I mean, he's right, this is in fact how it happens, step by step. We're still at a point where there's institutional resolve to, say, at least pretend to be offended by those posts on the CBP officers' Facebook group. But we're not too far away from that kind of thing being just the official line of the state. The cruelty and dehumanization are real and are being implicitly and now to some degree explicitly endorsed at the highest levels.

The Nazi analogies only get you so far, there are a ton of differences between the U.S. in 2020 and Germany in 1930, and a Trump re-election doesn't mean authoritarian military rule. It will take a different, American form. But it already is taking that form, it's coalescing, it doesn't happen all at once but piece by piece. None of which is inevitable or should prompt despair, but the stakes are being raised. It's hard to ever point to one single turning point, everything seems super significant until the next damn thing. But that rally last night is about as stark a signal as you get. They're not kidding, and they're not going away quietly.

OTM

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 July 2019 15:00 (four years ago) link

and that doesn't contradict what tombot and alfred were saying either, of course. alarm should lead to some sort of action, ideally. however, i can understand that some people react to alarm by just shutting down.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 July 2019 15:01 (four years ago) link

A question I've been pondering lately: is there something(s) that precipitated this? Because it just feels like directionless hate from people whose lives remain largely unaltered by the object of their hatred. I mean, it's not like some tidal wave of immigrants have flooded the US and taken 'our' jobs en masse. It seems, historically, that there are factors you can point to as the catalyst for reactive uprisings, but what the fuck are these people reacting to aside from, like, rabble rousers on the internet and a dipshit president who says every stupid thing that bubbles out of his brainstem?

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 July 2019 15:03 (four years ago) link

pogs

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 July 2019 15:05 (four years ago) link

^ was that meant for the things you once thought socially acceptable which now horrify you to remember thread?

nashwan, Thursday, 18 July 2019 15:07 (four years ago) link

that's just a provisional response while we work out a better answer.

the hatred goes waaaaaay back. i was listening to the Daily episode on busing today (which was itself just a summary of the "Busing actually worked" article that the NYT published earlier this week). And no matter how many times i've heard the clip, it's always shocking to hear wallace say "In the name of the greatest people that have ever trod this earth, I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny, and I say segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever." while the crowd roars its approval

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 July 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link

Abortions for some, Trump-Themed Pogs for others

nashwan, Thursday, 18 July 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link

Reagan opened his 1980 campaign in the Mississippi town where the Freedom Riders men were murdered. He discussed state's rights

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 July 2019 15:10 (four years ago) link

hatred isn't something that we can move past, it is a chronic condition that needs to be constantly monitored and intentionally opposed.

i can't tell if i'm saying anything useful or just stating commonly understood things. i guess part of the problem is that what i think is commonly understood now seems to be a radical position to half of the country

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 July 2019 15:12 (four years ago) link

A question I've been pondering lately: is there something(s) that precipitated this? Because it just feels like directionless hate from people whose lives remain largely unaltered by the object of their hatred.

Obviously much studied and debated in the aftermath of WWII, and you can argue about the evolutionary mechanisms at work, but at a base level us-vs-them is ALWAYS a politically potent platform and the challenge of building a sense of common purpose and identity in a multi-racial/ethnic/religious society has been part of the American narrative from the start. Economic anxiety certainly fuels it, but there's also I think the reality that it's always lurking there, ready to be triggered. Bosnia, Rwanda, there is a hard-wired response that is available for people willing or eager to tap into it. And it produces a lot of energy! That's the biggest reason for the lack of institutional Republican pushback. They need fuel to run on, and this isn't the fuel the more measured among them would prefer -- or at least, they'd rather it was a smaller percentage of the mix -- but it's what's keeping their engine running now.

What people get out of it on the individual level, the people at the rallies, I think isn't that hard to understand. It feels good. It feels powerful. You're right, they're wrong, you're American, they're not, it's way more fun than listening to someone talk about tax policy. Anger at that level is invigorating, even joyful.

I guess I should have prefaced by saying, yeah, I know the roots of racism and anti-immigrant sentiment run deep and long and are by no means a new thing. It's just this increasing roar of fury which doesn't seem to correspond to any measurable real-world trends. Segregationist sentiment in the mid-20th Century south, for instance, at least made some kind of sense inasmuch as there was an obvious sea change taking place which had an impact on white people. But what's happening right now? In what way are these rally attendees being so traumatically inconvenienced by brown-skinned people at this point in time?

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 July 2019 15:17 (four years ago) link

Anger at that level is invigorating, even joyful.

and intensely creepy to anyone reminded of Two Minutes Hate. but yeah. that kind of dynamic will always be there. and if in some utopian future it manages to go away, it will come back even stronger once some innovative tech dude realizes that he can harness the hatred of the masses for political gain and/or profit

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 July 2019 15:19 (four years ago) link

What percentage of these people would even be aware of the existence of Rep. Omar if their fuckin' demagogue-in-chief wasn't casting her as a boogieman for them to hurl invective at?

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 July 2019 15:20 (four years ago) link

Segregationist sentiment in the mid-20th Century south, for instance, at least made some kind of sense inasmuch as there was an obvious sea change taking place which had an impact on white people. But what's happening right now? In what way are these rally attendees being so traumatically inconvenienced by brown-skinned people at this point in time?

white people are drifting toward the 50% mark in this country. they're confronting what it might mean to lose white privilege (even if they don't think of it in those terms) and suddenly white supremacy seems more appealing (even if they don't think of it in those terms)

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 July 2019 15:23 (four years ago) link

Did y’all forget what his rallies were like 3 years ago? This is not a new development!

Vape Store (crüt), Thursday, 18 July 2019 15:24 (four years ago) link

It's just this increasing roar of fury which doesn't seem to correspond to any measurable real-world trends.

I think they're triggered by seeing people they would probably call the cops on becoming members of congress

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 18 July 2019 15:25 (four years ago) link

And cast members of Star Wars.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 July 2019 15:26 (four years ago) link

One of the harder things for me to realize -- not morally hard, just hard to actually comprehend -- is how many white people really do think of themselves as "white people," as an identity, a tribe. I can't relate to it -- I know I'm white, I'm aware of what it confers in terms of privilege and power, but it's not some affirmative part of my self-conception -- but it is actually a real thing for a lot of people. They may not even realize it themselves until they feel it threatened. They might deny that that's what's motivating them, what's being tapped into, but it's clearly a big part of the picture.

xposts to Karl, I get that, too, but at this point it's still just theoretical. There isn't a lot of real-world impact at the moment.

Part of it, I've thought for a while, is that white people are terrified of the notion of having to eventually compete on an actual level playing field where they're almost certainly going to be found wanting.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 July 2019 15:29 (four years ago) link

LINDSEY GRAHAM blames Democrats when asked about “send her back” chants:

"No, I don't think it's racist to say. … I don't think a Somali refugee embracing Trump would not have been asked to go back. If you're a racist you want everybody from Somalia to go back"

"It's only racist if he called every single black person a 'n_____' instead of just those who disagree with him"

mookieproof, Thursday, 18 July 2019 15:32 (four years ago) link

Lindsey please die

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 18 July 2019 15:35 (four years ago) link

i've told this story before, maybe multiple times, but i always think of this time at my atlanta summer bookstore job during college. one of my clearest memories/examples of, as a white person, getting approached by outright racists who assume you're in their same club. time magazine had its "Welcome to Amexica" cover story (June 2001) about like, new cultural hybrids and growing bilingualism in southern Texas. this older white dude - i'm gonna say 50s, 60s at the highest - comes up to the counter with it and is like "have you read this?" and i'm like no, maybe i'll check it out before the new issue comes out and we pull 'em off the shelves, and he says (I'm pretty sure this is word for word) "This is the most important story of our time. In a few years, people like you and me won't be in charge anymore." he was as straightforwardly focused on maintaining his power as a white citizen; there was no dressing up at all. eighteen years ago.

Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 18 July 2019 15:37 (four years ago) link

TBRR I say "this is what we are" and "this is America" a lot because this is what we have been for pretty much the entirety of my life and it's a reminder to my white friends that, while I come from just as privileged a background as many of them, the way this country treats me by default is VERY different from the way it treats them

For example, not very many of my white Ivy League friends have been outright hassled by police/security for having the temerity to exist in a space where they were allowed to be; I have and so has every single male in my extended family of educators/state employees. Two of my great-grandfathers were lynched, one in a manner so scandalous that it launched an FBI investigation. This is all intrinsic to the American experience and it's insulting to me that people react as if this suddenly appeared out of nowhere, like all of this animosity and hatred was solved and a few bad actors resurrected it.

brigadier pudding (DJP), Thursday, 18 July 2019 15:38 (four years ago) link

It's just this increasing roar of fury which doesn't seem to correspond to any measurable real-world trends.

I don't think that's really right -- it really is true that the proportion of Americans born abroad is larger now than it has been in the lifetime of anyone now living:

https://www.census.gov/newsroom/pdf/cspan_fb_slides.pdf

Middle-aged and older Americans grew up in a United States essentially without immigrants, and I think most don't know that the America of today is the historical norm, and the mid-20th-century clampdown on immigration which they see as "normal" was the anomaly.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 18 July 2019 15:43 (four years ago) link

It should come as no surprise that Miami Cubans over 60 are cool with fascism.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 July 2019 15:47 (four years ago) link

This is all intrinsic to the American experience and it's insulting to me that people react as if this suddenly appeared out of nowhere, like all of this animosity and hatred was solved and a few bad actors resurrected it.

Yeah, it's more like over the last 50 years we reached the latest of a series of plateaus -- each one preceded by fights and violence -- where we were able to at least remove legal segregation in most forms and people more or less agreed to not say certain things in public or mixed company. But we've reached the end of that period, and now you have people wanting to, like, remove Confederate statues! Talk about the racist history of zoning! And just basically be honest, God help us, about American history. And all of that is just a step way too far for people who barely/grudging agreed to the previous terms in the first place.

DJP thoroughly otm. Denying that this is part and parcel of the American experience is like pointing to an imagined, monstrous inhumanity as the sole cause of our species’ innumerable crimes.

pomenitul, Thursday, 18 July 2019 15:47 (four years ago) link

I can't help but feel that the internet itself might be the central catalyst of what we're seeing today, inasmuch as it's had this weird dual effect of a) shining a light on the breadth of human experience for those who might otherwise have never seen or experienced much beyond their own community and b) allowing birds of a feather to easily flock together, free of the bounds of geography, and construct little fortified echo chambers where they can collectively reinforce the righteousness of whatever self-description they choose to rally around.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 July 2019 15:52 (four years ago) link

The newly unsealed search warrant materials in Michael Cohen's case are up in SDNY, per judge's order yesterday. In the first exhibit (which is 200+ pages so I don't have a link yet), this is what the prev. redacted section on the campaign contribution allegations looks like now pic.twitter.com/r0pKVoEy4n

— Zoe Tillman (@ZoeTillman) July 18, 2019

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 18 July 2019 15:54 (four years ago) link

FWIW I don't know that anyone itt has suggested that the hatred and xenophobia currently being expressed are anything novel. The volume and vehemence, however, are certainly at levels I haven't previously experienced in my lifetime.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 July 2019 15:56 (four years ago) link

b) allowing birds of a feather to easily flock together, free of the bounds of geography, and construct little fortified echo chambers where they can collectively reinforce the righteousness of whatever self-description they choose to rally around.

well yeah otherwise they'd have to make due with printing out their own newsletters and calling into AM talk shows

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 18 July 2019 15:56 (four years ago) link

tbh, as an active BK gentrifier, I take "go back where you came from" as an attack that feels plenty personal; funny how that phrase doesn't seem to apply to the people you'd think it might most apply to: colonizers. during pride, i heard Peppermint give a talk about how everyone in the crowd who considered themselves an ally was now queer as far as she was concerned, with the proviso that with that inclusivity came vulnerability. Her point was that allies needed to get just as angry, activated and involved when the queer community comes under fire as one would if they saw family under attack. Same principle needs to be applied to white america's understanding of immigrant families both incoming and next generation. That's a lot easier to do in an urban setting where everyone's neighbors and friends fit the description (and goes a long way in explaining why the plurality of urban folks are pro sanctuary city) but harder to swallow within the insular and more homogenous settings of the flyover states. Maybe we can solve all this by switching homes for a month or two.

The obviousness of race/religion/ethnicity/class baiting by the superrich to distract white america from the genuine culprits behind income inequality, opioid addiction, stagnant wages and death of the middle class would be comedic if it weren't so entirely successful.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 18 July 2019 16:13 (four years ago) link

“I want to talk to the president about the tweet, and what has emanated from that,” the Michigan Republican told POLITICO. “It’s one thing to do chants of ‘lock her up.’ But a chant like [‘send her back’] is simply not reflective of our constitution.”

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 18 July 2019 16:58 (four years ago) link

cool, TIL jailing your political opponents is in the constitution

rob, Thursday, 18 July 2019 17:01 (four years ago) link

it's premature to concede 2020 to Yam

and *of course* this is who we are

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 July 2019 17:20 (four years ago) link

as if this suddenly appeared out of nowhere

what was formerly tacitly understood (the Southern Strategy) now brays itself proudly

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 July 2019 17:23 (four years ago) link

He's realized it's not playing as well as he thought it would.

Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally

President Donald on Thursday disavowed the “send her back” chant that broke out at his rally on Wednesday night.

"I was not happy with it. I disagree with it,” Trump said to reporters about the chant, which began after the president again went after Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) as part of his ongoing attack on four progressive freshman congresswomen.

This is disappointing; I had hoped it would take several more months for self-awareness to kick in, and that before that he would dig deeper and deeper until his approval ratings were in the mid-30s, with a 99% approval rating among non-college-educated white men who own three or more guns.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 18 July 2019 17:27 (four years ago) link

it'll last 'til his next rally

mott the hoopleheads (voodoo chili), Thursday, 18 July 2019 17:29 (four years ago) link

you were hoping he'd stoke racist chants against specific targets for a longer period of time in the hopes his approval rating would take a hit? xp

Simon H., Thursday, 18 July 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link

Guys he told them to stop

Fuck Trump, cops, and the CBP (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 July 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link

"Oh stop, you guys. You're really too much" *chuckles*

Fuck Trump, cops, and the CBP (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 July 2019 17:31 (four years ago) link

Xxpost i hope all of us would not want this.

Fuck Trump, cops, and the CBP (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 July 2019 17:32 (four years ago) link

you were hoping he'd stoke racist chants against specific targets for a longer period of time in the hopes his approval rating would take a hit?

Kinda, yeah. Do I want people like Ilhan Omar to be placed in actual danger because of his mouth-diarrhea? Of course not, but I have the feeling she's been traveling with security for a while. I don't think she's in any actual danger. But he is, politically and electorally. Remember, Trump is not popular. Alfred and I have to keep reminding people of this for some reason. So the more he carves his base down to the absolute bone, the better for 2020.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 18 July 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link

People were reminded that over and over right up until he got elected, so the cynicism is understandable.

Evan, Thursday, 18 July 2019 17:58 (four years ago) link

I don't think she's in any actual danger.

https://missoulacurrent.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Gaby-Giffords.jpg

Gabby Giffords has something to tell you...

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 18 July 2019 17:59 (four years ago) link

wait did Trump even tell them to stop it?

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:01 (four years ago) link

Also just, I'ma be cool, but how dare you bargain with a woman's life because you think it seems fine? She's not a THING, a bargaining chip to slide across the counter on the chance that it might slightly weaken an enemy. HOW DARE YOU.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:02 (four years ago) link

xp you can watch the ugliness here, trump was explicitly stoking fires and generally being an ignorant fuckhead
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/07/17/trump_maga_rally_crowd_chants_send_her_back_to_rep_ilhan_omar.html

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:05 (four years ago) link

i'm sorry, you're wrong about that, forks.

When a reporter asked why he didn’t step in to quell the chant, Trump claimed some credit for doing so. “I think I did. I started speaking very quickly.”

once the chant (that appeared out of nowhere, nothing to do with him) started, he immediately stepped in. god damn he is a patriot

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:08 (four years ago) link

A lot of bad things are happening in Puerto Rico. The Governor is under siege, the Mayor of San Juan is a despicable and incompetent person who I wouldn’t trust under any circumstance, and the United States Congress foolishly gave 92 Billion Dollars for hurricane relief, much....

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 18, 2019

hate to have to say "fuck this asshole" every single day but $92 billion was the damage assessment, not even close to what we actually gave

frogbs, Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link

once the chant (that appeared out of nowhere, nothing to do with him) started, he immediately stepped in. god damn he is a patriot

he didn't. he stepped away from the mic so the chant could continue

frogbs, Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link

Gabby Giffords has something to tell you...

― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, July 18, 2019 12:59 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

not america, but jo fox would have something to tell you too

mott the hoopleheads (voodoo chili), Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link

btw, here's part of Omar's response:

“We have said this President is racist. We have condemned his racist remarks,” Omar told reporters. “I believe he is fascist.”

“I want to remind people that this is what this President and his supporters have done to our country that is supposed to be a country where we allow democratic debate and dissent to take place,” she added. “And so this is not about me. This is about us fighting for what this country truly should be.”


https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/ilhan-omar-respond-trump-fascist

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:10 (four years ago) link

sorry to be a dullard, but for Granny's sake and ftr, no, he neither did nor said anything to stop the chant. apols for Chait content but you can see the video here: http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/trump-i-stopped-the-send-her-back-chant-he-didnt.html

rob, Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link

he didn't. he stepped away from the mic so the chant could continue

sorry, my sarcasm level was at 100% there. he very obviously did nothing to stop them from chanting it. he wanted it, he got it, and then he stood back for a long time in silence so that it could continue.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link

Also just, I'ma be cool, but how dare you bargain with a woman's life because you think it seems fine? She's not a THING, a bargaining chip to slide across the counter on the chance that it might slightly weaken an enemy. HOW DARE YOU.

― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, July 18, 2019 2:02 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

OTMFM

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link

Phil, I strongly disagree with you about any point regarding Omar's safety.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:15 (four years ago) link

xp twitter currently pumping this horseshit out with all the force it can

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:15 (four years ago) link

sorry, my sarcasm level was at 100% there. he very obviously did nothing to stop them from chanting it. he wanted it, he got it, and then he stood back for a long time in silence so that it could continue.

oh I knew you were being sarcastic, just didn't know if you were aware that once again he's on camera doing the exact opposite of what he said he did

frogbs, Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:17 (four years ago) link

I'm sorry, like, I don't even know who you are, but after giving that post a few seconds of consideration my head basically exploded. She is putting her LIFE ON THE LINE just being a public figure. And regular house members DON'T GET SECURITY, as I confirmed with a basic google search.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:19 (four years ago) link

Yam's denial of video'd reality is very Ted Baxterish

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:20 (four years ago) link

I’ll never forget the first time I watched @Ilhan receive a death threat. It came in the mail w/ no return address. She opened it, read it, folded it back up and said “I hope they find peace.”

She’s not going anywhere. And neither are we.#IStandWithIlhan pic.twitter.com/iUY8cSB3I4

— joelle (@joellestangler) July 18, 2019

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link

it is unbelievable what a coward this bigot is, a guy who leads people to chant his and then turns on them, blaming them for doing it, "hey it wasn't me i tried to stop it." i understand "coward" and "bigot" are a bit redundant maybe. but his willingness to throw his most rabid supporters to the wolves should be pointed out, maybe. i don't know if that would work or if it's even a decent argument against him.

omar little, Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:26 (four years ago) link

Some Republicans are now criticizing the chant at the rally while maintaining that there was nothing wrong with trump’s tweets that instigated the chant

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link

"see we wanted them to say GO back not SEND THEM back, ugh"

omar little, Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:31 (four years ago) link

this is an interesting choice of words https://t.co/avlMPaf1Al

— b-boy bouiebaisse (@jbouie) July 18, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:35 (four years ago) link

also demonstrated that he's a coward but not admitting who those initial tweets were directed to. "I think you can figure it out" or whatever. total chickenshit.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:37 (four years ago) link

Ilhan Omar on the other hand is incredibly brave for sticking through all this

frogbs, Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:39 (four years ago) link

america is becoming unbecoming so they won't be coming

Evan, Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link

the problem with criticizing this administration is that you're left trying to find new ways to explain why the can of creamed corn poured over the steaming pile of dogshit and served as dinner is disgusting; you end up looking the fool stating what should be obvious but even so its hard to be heard over the noise of a third of the country licking the plate

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:42 (four years ago) link

Just stared at that tweet saying "WHAT?" for a while. Wow.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:43 (four years ago) link

Take a drink every time a republican hearkens back to the abandoned dreams of our forefathers while simultaneously betraying an ignorance of history and how the world works. I'll keep the stomach pump on standby.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:49 (four years ago) link

the problem with criticizing this administration is that you're left trying to find new ways to explain why the can of creamed corn poured over the steaming pile of dogshit and served as dinner is disgusting; you end up looking the fool stating what should be obvious but even so its hard to be heard over the noise of a third of the country licking the plate

― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, July 18, 2019 2:42 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

the more often you try to explain how disgusting it is to them the more enthusiastic their eating becomes. The more you insist they should feel sick like you do, the happier they are to do it to make you feel sicker.

Evan, Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:54 (four years ago) link

you don't even have to. just look back a few years and ask where all this "if you don't like it, leave!" crap was when they were flinging shit at Obama nonstop. hell, even look back to 2016 when Trump's core issue was that America sucked and he was the only one who could fix it.

frogbs, Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:57 (four years ago) link

Also just, I'ma be cool, but how dare you bargain with a woman's life because you think it seems fine? She's not a THING, a bargaining chip to slide across the counter on the chance that it might slightly weaken an enemy. HOW DARE YOU.

― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, July 18, 2019 2:02 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

OTMFM

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, July 18, 2019 1:12 PM (forty-five minutes ago)

OTMFM X2

Manfred Hemming-Hawing (WmC), Thursday, 18 July 2019 19:00 (four years ago) link

I mean, it's not like some tidal wave of immigrants have flooded the US and taken 'our' jobs en masse. It seems, historically, that there are factors you can point to as the catalyst for reactive uprisings, but what the fuck are these people reacting to aside from, like, rabble rousers on the internet and a dipshit president who says every stupid thing that bubbles out of his brainstem?

honestly, capitalism, they just haven't been told that's it

Middle-aged and older Americans grew up in a United States essentially without immigrants, and I think most don't know that the America of today is the historical norm, and the mid-20th-century clampdown on immigration which they see as "normal" was the anomaly.

Shame the graph can't estimate percentage figures for 1560-1860 too.

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 18 July 2019 19:26 (four years ago) link

I'm so afraid for her.

For Ilhan and AOC in particular but also for everyone else who confronts hatred right now because of the militarization + relentless othering + paranoia valu combo time that we're in.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 18 July 2019 19:28 (four years ago) link

honestly, capitalism, they just haven't been told that's it

they've been told, they just don't like that answer. ironically, one of the things they hate about the squad is that they don't like their answer, which is why people like lindsey graham calls them communists

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 July 2019 19:29 (four years ago) link

Perfect:

.@IlhanMN: “I believe he is fascist because today even Lindsey Graham defended his comments by saying that if I was wearing a MAGA hat -- if there was a Somali person wearing a MAGA hat -- they would not be deported. But because I criticize the president, I should be deported.” pic.twitter.com/nYXSmVwian

— Face The Nation (@FaceTheNation) July 18, 2019

... (Eazy), Thursday, 18 July 2019 19:29 (four years ago) link

xp: it's been said plenty, but not said by the sources that they listen to.

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 18 July 2019 19:31 (four years ago) link

IMO Ilhan Omar is made of steel and her constituents (I am one, and I was so proud to vote for her) have been rallying around her all week.

suzy, Thursday, 18 July 2019 19:31 (four years ago) link

For Ilhan and AOC in particular but also for everyone else who confronts hatred right now because of the militarization + relentless othering + paranoia valu combo time that we're in.

also, that this is one of the only places on earth where you have to worry about many of the hate-filled people also being proud gun owners.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 July 2019 19:31 (four years ago) link

really glad she used the word "fascist"

frogbs, Thursday, 18 July 2019 19:33 (four years ago) link

"fascially-charged"

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 July 2019 19:34 (four years ago) link

fascial cream

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 July 2019 19:40 (four years ago) link

anyway Trump backing down on this (somewhat) is actually a bit of a surprise...will he bring her up at the next rally? will "Send her back" become the next "Lock her up"? I can't wait to find out!!!

frogbs, Thursday, 18 July 2019 19:41 (four years ago) link

plantation-minded fasciitis

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 18 July 2019 19:42 (four years ago) link

He got anxious calls from Cabinet members and congressmen who weren't Lindsey Graham.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 July 2019 19:44 (four years ago) link

He advised sending her back along with her brother who is also her husband.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 July 2019 19:52 (four years ago) link

I think the ex-husband was the supposed brother? It's hard to follow and I don't really care about the personal lives of politicians as long as they're not leaving a trail of human misery

untuned mass damper (mh), Thursday, 18 July 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link

GREAT NEWS

it appears that the US claims to have shot down an Iranian drone that came near a navy ship

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 July 2019 20:02 (four years ago) link

Weirdly, I had an interaction recently with a woman in North London who said she was interested in American politics. When I said Ilhan was my Congresswoman, she mentioned the brother thing just after bringing up the accusation of anti-Semitism, in this really cutesy/insouciant way. Gross. I asked her if she was reading weird right-wing sites for kicks, because this was total bullshit.

FWIW Omar’s mother died when she was two; her ex-husband is three years younger than her.

suzy, Thursday, 18 July 2019 20:15 (four years ago) link

the right are abominable shitheads everywhere but the american right boggles the damn mind.

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 18 July 2019 20:16 (four years ago) link

altho now I've said that i remember that there are canadian conservatives who think that trudeau is fidel castro's son

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 18 July 2019 20:17 (four years ago) link

Yeah, before she could go there, I mentioned that I’d grown up in a Jewish enclave, Minnesota’s largest, that’s right in the middle of Omar’s district and largely supportive of her, and where the level of debate about what constitutes AS, and I/P issues, seems more forthright than the current UK discourse. She was a weapons-grade dinner-party Islamophobic fuckwit, obvs.

suzy, Thursday, 18 July 2019 20:25 (four years ago) link

I asked her if she was reading weird right-wing sites for kicks

The President of the United States alluded to it and added "we'll find out". You don't necessarily have to read right-wing sites to know about it.

frogbs, Thursday, 18 July 2019 20:26 (four years ago) link

This was over a month ago! Nobody in the UK would’ve known about that gross rumour unless they went hunting for negative stories about her.

suzy, Thursday, 18 July 2019 20:35 (four years ago) link

Totes real...saw it this morning (don't ask)

She slightly humanized herself later by revealing she never ever cared for Rand Paul.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 18 July 2019 20:44 (four years ago) link

waiting with bated breath for an eli valley cartoon of this new meghan development

untuned mass damper (mh), Thursday, 18 July 2019 20:44 (four years ago) link

The John Oliver compilation of Meghan's "Can I just say..." comments on her group talk show was both funny and depressing. And perfectly edited with the last clip being someone refusing to yield to her.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 18 July 2019 20:48 (four years ago) link

Meghan really strikes me as the 2020 version of Tucker Carlson in '04: Angry at the powers that be ruining 'my conservatism' before eventually embracing the shitheads.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 18 July 2019 20:51 (four years ago) link

The President of the United States alluded to it and added "we'll find out".


I’m sure the best people are definitely hard at work not making sure this innuendo drags out indefinitely, since that’s not a grift anyone in the administration knows anything about.

What’s cool about this new one is the “enlightened” angle — “oh goodness, we’re not implying incest, that would be ridiculous. No no this is pure immigration crimes...

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 18 July 2019 20:57 (four years ago) link

waiting with bated breath for an eli valley cartoon of this new meghan development

pic.twitter.com/cpYx3w5c8H

— Eli Valley (@elivalley) July 18, 2019

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_xSnYJXUAAN3Bn?format=jpg&name=medium

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 18 July 2019 21:09 (four years ago) link

Nancy Pelosi said the WORDS that the President used were racist. But those same words are in the Dictionary. Does that mean that the Dictionary is now racist? Should all Dictionaries be banned since Democrats are offended by words? #TDS pic.twitter.com/AvDtxbtNKH

— Diamond and Silk® (@DiamondandSilk) July 17, 2019

folks we've just been broken on the wheel of logic

frogbs, Thursday, 18 July 2019 21:40 (four years ago) link

xp lol I forgot he'd already done it

untuned mass damper (mh), Thursday, 18 July 2019 21:41 (four years ago) link

If have only the vaguest passing acquaintance with who Diamond and Silk even are, but if that's what passes for witty "gotcha" rejoinder on the right, we truly are beyond hope.

confusementalism (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 18 July 2019 22:00 (four years ago) link

The defense I'm waiting for is "he's not racist, he's race-ist."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 July 2019 22:02 (four years ago) link

Well done, Twin Cities!

Congresswoman Omar just arrived back in the Twin Cities. pic.twitter.com/ZiFqWnDJgQ

— Tom Hauser (@thauserkstp) July 18, 2019

suzy, Thursday, 18 July 2019 22:04 (four years ago) link

For assorted philosophical and professional reasons I’ve never donated money to a political candidate in my life. But I sent Omar $25 today, Not much money, not much of a gesture, but I felt like I had to do something.

“I believe he is fascist.” -@IlhanMN on Trump. pic.twitter.com/feh32zfH6m

— Justice Democrats (@justicedems) July 18, 2019

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 18 July 2019 22:20 (four years ago) link

A week after AOC won I wondered if she was going to get assassinated. Now I'm worried about Omar. Some dumbnut already got arrested with his plans to shoot a ton of liberal figures (and apparently charges were dropped???).

akm, Thursday, 18 July 2019 22:30 (four years ago) link

The John Oliver compilation of Meghan's "Can I just say..." comments on her group talk show was both funny and depressing. And perfectly edited with the last clip being someone refusing to yield to her.

unofficial upload here

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 18 July 2019 22:53 (four years ago) link

God it’s like Farage’s ‘No No No, Let me speak’

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 18 July 2019 23:37 (four years ago) link

Wrong McCain died

Fuck Trump, cops, and the CBP (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 July 2019 23:49 (four years ago) link

Politico reports:

President Donald Trump is likely to nominate Eugene Scalia, son of the late Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, to be the next Labor secretary, according to three sources familiar with the plans.

The younger Scalia, a partner at the law firm Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher, is a management-side attorney who in 2006 argued on behalf of Wal-Mart against a Maryland law that would have required the retail giant to spend more health care money on its employees.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 July 2019 00:11 (four years ago) link

having a cabinet of secretaries that actually hate the field they’re representing is a thing

untuned mass damper (mh), Friday, 19 July 2019 00:25 (four years ago) link

it takes dedication

Karl Malone, Friday, 19 July 2019 00:27 (four years ago) link

I just binged Robert Evan's It Could Happen Here podcast, so I'm of the mind just about anything is possible WRT the Squad's personal security.

I wouldn't mind if the eventual Democratic nominee dispensed with abstractly coded hopeful slogans like "Change we can Believe In" or "Stronger Together", and just went with the bluntly judgemental "We're Better than This."

полезный идиот (Sanpaku), Friday, 19 July 2019 03:52 (four years ago) link

President having a normal one on Twitter today

frogbs, Friday, 19 July 2019 14:46 (four years ago) link

just went with the bluntly judgemental "We're Better than This."

How about "Beat the Klan Shitheads"?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 July 2019 14:49 (four years ago) link

there are now _three_ "Radical Left Congresswomen"

Karl Malone, Friday, 19 July 2019 14:50 (four years ago) link

we are NOT better than this. not on the whole. we have to acknowledge what we're dealing with

Karl Malone, Friday, 19 July 2019 14:51 (four years ago) link

heh, the top story on the NYT website is still "Trump Disavows ‘Send Her Back’ Chant as G.O.P. Frets Over Ugly Phrase", even though he didn't even disavow when supposedly disavowed yesterday (he said he was "a little bit sorry" iirc, which is a just a motherfucker thing to say in any context), and especially not after he had his little tweet breakdown this morning

Karl Malone, Friday, 19 July 2019 15:10 (four years ago) link

tweet tantrum. that's better. tweet tantrum.

Karl Malone, Friday, 19 July 2019 15:10 (four years ago) link

good morning!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 July 2019 15:11 (four years ago) link

Thomas “the Chin” Friedman, a weak and pathetic sort of guy, writes columns for The New York Times in between rounds of his favorite game, golf.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 19 July 2019 15:16 (four years ago) link

but is totally calm & accepting of the most vile and disgusting statements made by the three Radical Left Congresswomen...

Wait, what happened to the 4th?

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 19 July 2019 15:18 (four years ago) link

From one of this morning's tweets: "Foul Mouthed Omar." I immediately got a vision of Rip Torn's Artie pausing and then looking up at Trump like only Artie could: "Good nickname."

http://phildellio.tripod.com/nickname.jpg

clemenza, Friday, 19 July 2019 15:26 (four years ago) link

have I missed Omar cursing? because I don't recall her doing that. Is he mixing up his brown people again?

akm, Friday, 19 July 2019 15:34 (four years ago) link

I think she quoted him calling African countries shitholes, ergo ...

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 19 July 2019 15:35 (four years ago) link

He is mixing up his brown people again. All instances of Ilhan Omar swearing are quotes of 45’s words.

suzy, Friday, 19 July 2019 15:36 (four years ago) link

so he didn't say "shithole" just like "grab em by the pussy" obv

look fwd to the day he denies he's president

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 July 2019 15:36 (four years ago) link

i think he dropped Pressley from the list because she doesn't have immediate family members from outside the continental US? it's interesting to see him edit his non-racist original remark so that it looks less racist by trimming his list of enemies who aren't white down to the people who have more solid familial connections to other countries, which is not at all racist

Karl Malone, Friday, 19 July 2019 15:39 (four years ago) link

i am fairly certain he's confusing tlaib's "impeach the motherfucker" as being said by Omar; at the absolute least he's conflating all of the squad into a single person which isn't racist at all of course

furthermore: https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-the-ilhan-omar-marriage-smear-went-from-an-anonymous-post-on-an-obscure-forum-to-being-embraced-by-trump

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 19 July 2019 15:48 (four years ago) link

Language is meaningless:

Wow. Trump is now back to making a full-throated defense of his fans who engaged in racist chants at his rally.

"Those people in North Carolina -- that stadium was packed. It was a record crowd ... Those are incredible people. Those are incredible patriots." pic.twitter.com/mHrRMl6PiW

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) July 19, 2019

pomenitul, Friday, 19 July 2019 18:10 (four years ago) link

not going to watch that, but there are some excellent expressions going on there.

omar little, Friday, 19 July 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link

"...and some of them, I assume, are racists."

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 19 July 2019 18:14 (four years ago) link

Good racists.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 19 July 2019 18:19 (four years ago) link

"She's lucky to be where she is"--oh, man. That's rather close to the old gardener's "There was a time when I could have had you shot" in...1967's In the Heat of the Night.

clemenza, Friday, 19 July 2019 19:53 (four years ago) link

alas no one slapped Dumbshit first

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 July 2019 20:04 (four years ago) link

Aren't the "lucky" Americans those whose mother's uterus just happened to be on US soil when they plopped out of them?

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 19 July 2019 20:45 (four years ago) link

Maybe I smoke too much weed, but it just seems so bizarre to me to "thank" something as abstract as a nation. Who do I send the thankyou card to?

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 19 July 2019 20:48 (four years ago) link

trigger warning: NYT homepage just put up "Trump's Electoral College Edge May Grow in 2020"

I support a coup if the popular loser wins again, no joke

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 July 2019 20:51 (four years ago) link

does seem like at some point enough is enough

Dan S, Friday, 19 July 2019 21:03 (four years ago) link

Yeah our side seems totally capable off overthrowing the government

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 19 July 2019 21:21 (four years ago) link

First government overthrown via strongly-worded censure on the floor of the house.

Throw some tea in the sea, that worked last time.

Arthur Lowe & Love (Tom D.), Friday, 19 July 2019 21:33 (four years ago) link

Good thing the second amendment is still in effect, huh. Tyranny is being countered with firearms by common Americans as we speak.

pomenitul, Friday, 19 July 2019 21:34 (four years ago) link

The article clearly says it isn't saying Trump is a favorite to win in 2020 and that his polling is underwater in states totalling 310 EVs.

All Cohn was saying is the disparity between popular vote and EV could grow, which is possible even in a Trump loss. IE if he got McCain lebel popular vote yet somehow got 250 EVs

Fuck Trump, cops, and the CBP (Neanderthal), Friday, 19 July 2019 21:41 (four years ago) link

alas no one slapped Dumbshit first

propose that Morbs uses this nickname for every single politician so e don't have to spend any time guessing to whom he's referring

fbclid=IwAR2-xUnEb30JyMHgD73wH3xs5PGmzrsQC1mpPrJ_HX9YldqC-dpbVXYvgco

so true

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, 19 July 2019 21:49 (four years ago) link

Yeah our side seems totally capable off overthrowing the government

report to yr local range

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 July 2019 21:59 (four years ago) link

Yesterday’s Serwer piece summarizing this week and the 300 or so years preceding it is mandatory reading:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/07/send-her-back-battle-will-define-us-forever/594307/

El Tomboto, Saturday, 20 July 2019 01:13 (four years ago) link

Just spoke to @KanyeWest about his friend A$AP Rocky’s incarceration. I will be calling the very talented Prime Minister of Sweden to see what we can do about helping A$AP Rocky. So many people would like to see this quickly resolved!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 19, 2019

Vape Store (crüt), Saturday, 20 July 2019 02:22 (four years ago) link

"I've got it: 'Send Him Back! Send Him Back! Send Him Back!' They'll eat it up."

clemenza, Saturday, 20 July 2019 02:51 (four years ago) link

xxp thanks, it pains me to admit it but that was a good article published by The Atlantic

Skip Spence None the Richer (sleeve), Saturday, 20 July 2019 02:56 (four years ago) link

they do one every now and then to put some shine on the rest

j., Saturday, 20 July 2019 03:07 (four years ago) link

adam serwer is great

hollow your fart (m bison), Saturday, 20 July 2019 04:25 (four years ago) link

the very talented Prime Minister of Sweden

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 20 July 2019 14:32 (four years ago) link

shockedpikachu.jpg

A bit of news: Raj Shah, the former spokesman in the White House, is joining Fox as a senior Vice President.

— Josh Dawsey (@jdawsey1) July 20, 2019

This time it’s gonna work. No, really. pic.twitter.com/s7PT0oD7k8

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) July 21, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 21 July 2019 15:51 (four years ago) link

I thought of the retired cop who hangs out at my Starbucks, explaining each detail in the Mueller investigation for almost two years until April happened; he'd pinned more hopes on Mueller than Adam Schiff.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 21 July 2019 15:54 (four years ago) link

So, I come back from a week in the woods and I see that Infrastructure Week has been permanently shelved in favor of Overt Racism Week.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 21 July 2019 17:56 (four years ago) link

The Infrastructure IS Racism.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 21 July 2019 18:00 (four years ago) link

Too real.

Coelacanth Green (Leee), Sunday, 21 July 2019 18:02 (four years ago) link

the racism is coming from inside the house

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 21 July 2019 20:54 (four years ago) link

speaking of

The #FourHorsewomenOfTheApocalypse #BenGarrison #cartoon Stupidity, Profanity, Bigotry, and Insanity GrrrGreat Post at https://t.co/nfplNrv4aj pic.twitter.com/gdqT0S6KQU

— GrrrGraphics Cartoons (@GrrrGraphics) July 18, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 July 2019 00:21 (four years ago) link

is anyone still running that fucknut's cartoons?

akm, Monday, 22 July 2019 00:34 (four years ago) link

Besides www.grrrgraphics.com, Ben’s work has been posted at:

Breitbart
InfoWars
Politico
Slate
ZeroHedge
The Federalist Papers

You can go check and tell us when each last ran him? (& whether Politico and Slate were just showing him to point out how bad and dumb he is)

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 22 July 2019 00:49 (four years ago) link

I really wish the Democrats would stop looking to Mueller to lead the impeachment charge when they have more than enough ammo already at their disposal to begin proceedings. If it interferes with the election at this point, it's their leadership's own damn fault for being chickenshit.

brigadier pudding (DJP), Monday, 22 July 2019 12:50 (four years ago) link

but they are the Act Never party, DJP

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 July 2019 14:29 (four years ago) link

Since when is shaking your finger at someone while making a very disappointed face not an action

*takes down an action item to consider this*

*looks down at action item with disappointment*

Time for lunch!

Karl Malone, Monday, 22 July 2019 15:51 (four years ago) link

This whole thread is good

Make your own Donald Trump Jr. book template: pic.twitter.com/rQZ14g08UL

— Parker Molloy (@ParkerMolloy) July 22, 2019

Wait, Dems are going to clear the decks on government funding and debt ceiling for the remainder of Trump's term, forfeiting all leverage, but set up a major crisis point for Republicans in the first summer of a potential Dem presidents' term? This seems like a very bad idea. https://t.co/dKwFKilPyT

— Adam Jentleson 🎈🐢 (@AJentleson) July 22, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 July 2019 16:34 (four years ago) link

Those blasted democrats are still acting as if funding the government were some kind of priority.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 22 July 2019 16:48 (four years ago) link

under any terms

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 July 2019 16:57 (four years ago) link

the best government that corruption can buy:

OMG. “Because he tends to fall asleep in meetings, they try not to put him in a position where that could happen” https://t.co/ZgxjeR1nS3

— Neal Katyal (@neal_katyal) July 22, 2019

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 July 2019 17:28 (four years ago) link

A plan!

WATCH: President Trump says that he could win the 18-year Afghan War in 10 days, because he has plans that could wipe Afghanistan off the face of the Earth and kill 10,000,000 people, but "I don't want to go that route." pic.twitter.com/IftsRmBjpG

— NBC News (@NBCNews) July 22, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 July 2019 17:46 (four years ago) link

reassuring!

So Jane Meyer wrote a piece in which the Dem party establishment expresses its regret about forcing Al Franken's resignation. Meyer, one of our best political reporters, fucked this one up. This combination of profile and investigation makes the subject sympathetic, and I'm sorry but Franken had many allegations of sexual harassment. Gillibrand and the others were right to ask for his resignation. An investigation would've confirmed what we suspected.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 July 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link

dem leadership needs a complete overhaul, what a bunch of fuckin dorks

Carisis LaVerted (m bison), Monday, 22 July 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link

these sentient cumstains are more worried about congress being a pleasant workplace than a lever of power i swear to god

Carisis LaVerted (m bison), Monday, 22 July 2019 18:14 (four years ago) link

yup

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 22 July 2019 18:16 (four years ago) link

i mean...do they WANT impeachment proceedings going on in summer/fall 2020? is the thinking that all republicans will be in lockstep against it, most democrats will be for it, therefore it'll obliterate all other issues (including pesky progressive initiatives supported by the squad + sanders/warren, if they're the nominee) and turn everything into a referendum on trump, and they see that as a situation that likely ends up with the democratic nominee winning, no matter who it is?

or are they just fuckin dorks?

Karl Malone, Monday, 22 July 2019 18:18 (four years ago) link

dems need a reverse tea party...a yeet party if u will

Carisis LaVerted (m bison), Monday, 22 July 2019 18:24 (four years ago) link

That Franken piece is such a cropdusting.

Yerac, Monday, 22 July 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link

i will never call myself a Democrat, but propose the AOC wing be called the Coffee Achievers

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 July 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link

no

Carisis LaVerted (m bison), Monday, 22 July 2019 18:31 (four years ago) link

how about the ISISisters

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 22 July 2019 18:32 (four years ago) link

btw here's what president fuckface had to say this morning

'The “Squad” is a very Racist group of troublemakers who are young, inexperienced, and not very smart. They are pulling the once great Democrat Party far left, and were against humanitarian aid at the Border...And are now against ICE and Homeland Security. So bad for our Country!'

Karl Malone, Monday, 22 July 2019 18:38 (four years ago) link

Trump continued: "In fact, they said literally 100%, this never happens, I think it was close to 100, but 100% of the island itself was watching. They liked those pageants. I've had a great relationship with Puerto Rico. I'm the best thing that ever happened to Puerto Rico."

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) July 22, 2019

hope you die very soon!

frogbs, Monday, 22 July 2019 18:42 (four years ago) link

i have no idea what that's about, but i agree. natural death, come quickly.

Karl Malone, Monday, 22 July 2019 18:43 (four years ago) link

they asked him about Puerto Rico and his response was about the Miss Universe pageant he did there and how much everyone loved it

frogbs, Monday, 22 July 2019 18:46 (four years ago) link

unbelievable

i mean obv not really, but...unbelievable

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 22 July 2019 18:47 (four years ago) link

and they sure loved those paper towel rolls!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 July 2019 18:49 (four years ago) link

i mean...do they WANT impeachment proceedings going on in summer/fall 2020? is the thinking that all republicans will be in lockstep against it, most democrats will be for it, therefore it'll obliterate all other issues (including pesky progressive initiatives supported by the squad + sanders/warren, if they're the nominee) and turn everything into a referendum on trump, and they see that as a situation that likely ends up with the democratic nominee winning, no matter who it is?

That's how I see it, yes. Not because they want it to drown out progressivism, but because they (correctly!) see the American public as having a very short attention span. They may not think they can spin this out into 18 months of "Trump is a crook" leading the news cycle, and if they feel they can get six months of that, they want those six months to be May-November 2020. Now you may say "why CAN'T they make "Trump is a crook" the headline every day for 18 months, since he is, in fact, a huge goddamn crook," and I get that, but I do think that once the Senate votes not to convict, which they will, lots of swing voters are going to see the matter as settled, and the last thing Democrats want is to have that happen in like February 2020.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 22 July 2019 18:52 (four years ago) link

do you think the national attention span will absorb 6 months of "Pocahontas" if EW is nominated?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 July 2019 18:59 (four years ago) link

as with most things in american politics, i would say that about 1/3 of the voting public would be intensely absorbed with it, another 1/3 would want to punch the first 1/3 in the face, while the remaining 1/3 would be standing there with their mouths wide open, clayton kershaw style

Karl Malone, Monday, 22 July 2019 19:14 (four years ago) link

as for myself, i plan on standing there with my mouth wide open, clayton kershaw, while pondering a ben garrison drawing of Ilhan Omar holding a scimitar with the word "Bigotry" underneath her

Karl Malone, Monday, 22 July 2019 19:16 (four years ago) link

starve the poors to death before heatstroke or drowning can take them, v smart move

U.S. President Donald Trump has argued that many Americans now using SNAP do not need it given the strong economy and low unemployment, and should be removed as a way to save taxpayers as much as $15 billion.

“Some states are taking advantage of loopholes that allow people to receive the SNAP benefits who would otherwise not qualify and for which they are not entitled,” USDA Secretary Sonny Perdue told reporters on a conference call on Monday.

SNAP provides free food to some 40 million Americans, or about 12% of the total U.S. population.

ah yes, that strong economy and low unemployment which nonetheless somehow fails to provide enough food to one in ten americans

Okay, cool, so hopefully this is the thing that will finally rile people up enough to rip him apart in the street.

My nephew accidentally swalled five quarters and thee dimes. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 12:11 (four years ago) link

Well, I'd like to see ol Donny Trump wriggle his way out of THIS jam!
*Trump wriggles his way out of the jam easily*
Ah! Well. Nevertheless,

— "Mr" Eats The Sticker on the Apple (@BronzeHammer) October 2, 2016

Presidents Jeb! and Rubio would also have gone after SNAP.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 12:17 (four years ago) link

well, yeah

Anyone who wants to fuck with SNAP (et al) should be forced to go through the process of getting a card and then living off of it for a number of months.

My nephew accidentally swalled five quarters and thee dimes. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 12:24 (four years ago) link

Now you may say "why CAN'T they make "Trump is a crook" the headline every day for 18 months, since he is, in fact, a huge goddamn crook,"

seriously jesus christ

j., Tuesday, 23 July 2019 13:00 (four years ago) link

Anyone who wants to fuck with SNAP (et al) should be forced to go through the process of getting a card and then living off of it for a number of months.

this times 4 billion

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 13:38 (four years ago) link

good luck usa btw

August 2019 Harper's Index perfectly captures US perceptions of declinism and exceptionalism. pic.twitter.com/K5JrP5Ai8B

— Micah Zenko (@MicahZenko) July 19, 2019

Welshy's Lean Bulk - ****loads of pics (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 13:47 (four years ago) link

TBF, they don't specify the metric by which we judge the US to be the best.

https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/triumph.jpeg

My nephew accidentally swalled five quarters and thee dimes. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 13:59 (four years ago) link

this is the best of all possible worlds...too bad it sucks

rob, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 14:04 (four years ago) link

Reminds me of the 2nd stage in bubsy 3D

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 14:06 (four years ago) link

Those poll results really say so much about where we are as a country (world?). It's like bitching about how you can no longer walk on the injured foot you left untended for so long that it's become a swollen, gangrenous mass, occasionally interrupted by hallucinatory paeans to a nonexistent yesteryear induced by your impending death from sepsis.

My nephew accidentally swalled five quarters and thee dimes. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 14:26 (four years ago) link

ppl dont wanna be nuked; NYT:

Afghanistan demanded a clarification on Tuesday of President Trump’s comments a day earlier that he could have had the country “wiped off the face of the earth” but did not “want to kill 10 million people.” In a sharply worded statement, the government of President Ashraf Ghani noted that Afghanistan expected its relationship with the United States to be “grounded on common interests and mutual respect.”

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 14:54 (four years ago) link

Wow, so lame of them to get all _offended_ by that. It was obviously a hilarious joke, lighten up Afghanistan jeez

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 14:56 (four years ago) link

"I have plans on Afghanistan..."

jmm, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 14:57 (four years ago) link

Citizens of the US can't expect their relationship with the government to be grounded in common interests and mutual respect, but good luck, Afghanistan.

My nephew accidentally swalled five quarters and thee dimes. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 15:01 (four years ago) link

is there a different turning point usa i'm not aware of or

Leaving for Turning Point USA. Will be speaking to some of the greatest and smartest young people on the planet. See you there!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 23, 2019

Welshy's Lean Bulk - ****loads of pics (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 15:03 (four years ago) link

incredibly depressing to have a president making the sort of "jokes" I'd hear as a kid about how we could just nuke the middle east

incredibly difficult to be an adult and realize due to a past you've inherited, you're always going to have some obligations or

donald probably walks into a room with his kids and wishes he could just remove them from the planet half the time, too, though

untuned mass damper (mh), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 15:10 (four years ago) link

Other human beings are not real to Donald Trump.

My nephew accidentally swalled five quarters and thee dimes. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 15:15 (four years ago) link

incredibly depressing to have a president making the sort of "jokes" I'd hear as a kid about how we could just nuke the middle east

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv13ZnkpWos

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 15:16 (four years ago) link

It's just such a flippantly violent statement; hard to wrap my head around.

jmm, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 15:18 (four years ago) link

xp I didn't mean to imply this sort of dipshittery was new, but doing so publicly and brazenly

(please do not link the McCain "bomb iran" riffing)

untuned mass damper (mh), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 15:51 (four years ago) link

both were "jokes"....this guy is not making a joke

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 16:00 (four years ago) link

he clearly gets off on contemplating & then announcing he's been contemplating these sort of "plans"

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 16:08 (four years ago) link

I do occasionally feel a glimmer of sympathy for his spawn when I imagine what fun it must've been to grow up with that thing as your father. Casual threats to sell them off to human traffickers if they don't clean up their room, etc.

My nephew accidentally swalled five quarters and thee dimes. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 16:18 (four years ago) link

as if he's ever stepped foot in their room or was involved in any kind of parenting .

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 16:26 (four years ago) link

Yeah, I don't know what I was thinking of with that one. I forgot that he just showed up at their dorm rooms occasionally to deck them in front of their friends.

My nephew accidentally swalled five quarters and thee dimes. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 16:31 (four years ago) link

that's not totally true, he clearly took an interest in Ivanka once she hit 13

frogbs, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 17:32 (four years ago) link

He was interested in improving her self Epstein

Evan, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link

ew

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 17:58 (four years ago) link

Oh shit sorry- typo.

*his

Evan, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link

I get typos in my zingers all the time. nothing is worse. NOTHING

akm, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 19:23 (four years ago) link

One of the best things about Trump is that he has largely proven impotent when it comes to implementing his worst plans...https://t.co/uB5tvTkNU3

— Jeffrey St. Clair (@JSCCounterPunch) July 23, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 19:25 (four years ago) link

xxp It sort of worked either way?

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 19:26 (four years ago) link

TRUMP: "Then I have an Article 2, where I have the right to do whatever I want as president."

(Article 2 does not in fact empower the president to do whatever they want.) pic.twitter.com/qIFP1AbHw6

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) July 23, 2019

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 19:44 (four years ago) link

<NARRATOR VOICE>

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 20:01 (four years ago) link

it's great to hear news about the next district over from accounts that track the lunatic sewer:

"This GOP Challenger to Ilhan Omar ‘100%’ Stands with QAnon"
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/this-gop-challenger-to-ilhan-omar-100-stands-with-qanon/

"Rep. Ilhan Omar’s Republican Challenger Appears to be a QAnon Conspiracy Theorist"
https://www.thedailybeast.com/rep-ilhan-omars-republican-challenger-appears-to-be-a-qanon-conspiracy-theorist

goole, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 20:59 (four years ago) link

she does not have what you'd call a commanding presence

#DemandFreeSpeech @DemndFreeSpeech #StopHate @HelpStopHate pic.twitter.com/OXrcq3FB5J

— sfthoughtcriminal (@sfthoughtcrime) July 19, 2019

goole, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 21:01 (four years ago) link

check those replies for:

a) trump dads being horny
b) a screenshot of an arrest report for $2k worth of goods from the Edina Target

goole, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 21:05 (four years ago) link

Omar's chances of reelection are 100%, except --

her chance of getting primaried is frankly not negligible

and, after today, her chance of getting assassinated is climbing! amazing country, healthy culture

goole, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 21:08 (four years ago) link

LOOOOOL am shocked that Target was allowed to open in Edina, tone officially low enough to concern Junior League moms.

suzy, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 21:09 (four years ago) link

Dayton's opened Southdale. That store's been there for 50 years.

by the light of the burning Citroën, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 21:15 (four years ago) link

i'm struggling to think what you could shoplift from Target worth $2,223. did she have a backpack full of makeup?

goole, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 21:16 (four years ago) link

lmao

Another former staffer for the QAnon House candidate says he's going to call the police if she doesn't give his laptop back. https://t.co/c4fjY16XNm

— Will Sommer (@willsommer) July 23, 2019

frogbs, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 21:17 (four years ago) link

Politico reports:

Delegates to the NAACP’s annual convention voted unanimously on Tuesday to support the impeachment of President Donald Trump, with the group’s president saying Trump is “unfit to serve this country.”

The push to come out against Trump was initiated by Rep. Al Green (D-TX), who has put forth several impeachment measures in the House.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 21:20 (four years ago) link

Haha, my congressman!

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 21:28 (four years ago) link

100% serious here: is that qanon stella woman mentally well? she sounds like she can barely talk.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 21:30 (four years ago) link

LOOOOOL am shocked that Target was allowed to open in Edina, tone officially low enough to concern Junior League moms.

― suzy, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 7:09 AM (nineteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Probably snuck in during that brief period hey were selling liberty print home furnishings.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 21:35 (four years ago) link

Is she thirteen? xp

confusementalism (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 21:38 (four years ago) link

She's casted to be seen and memed with overlaid captions, not to be heard on video

Bnad, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 21:41 (four years ago) link

getting some serious Dion Waiters in NBA2K vibes from her speech

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WsGrHzReo4

frogbs, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 21:48 (four years ago) link

https://i.ibb.co/hLTgQ66/temp.jpg

Bnad, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 21:49 (four years ago) link

That young woman's parents need to come and collect her.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 21:58 (four years ago) link

+ bring her to me 😻

lumen (esby), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 22:03 (four years ago) link

FP'd for that

Carisis LaVerted (m bison), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 22:14 (four years ago) link

donald probably walks into a room with his kids and wishes he could just remove them from the planet half the time, too, though

― untuned mass damper (mh)

US Politics December 2018: ~very legal and very cool~

Skip Spence None the Richer (sleeve), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 22:21 (four years ago) link

Why does Trump appeal to so many youngsters? How is it 'cool' (I'm old lol) to latch onto the trainwreck of this orange blob with diarrhea for brains? Don't they notice he can barely speak two coherent sentences? Why is it attractive at all to engage with this? Rebellion isn't what it used to be, is it? Did Reagan have such a big youth following? Was there a Nixon jugend? I just don't get why so many young people applaud this repulsive creature.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 22:21 (four years ago) link

When you were raised in the wilderness by a white supremacist militia, it all seems very cool.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 22:23 (four years ago) link

the youth writ large do not think donald is cool. this is a conservative white kid nihilist power fantasy dickhead thing.

Carisis LaVerted (m bison), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 22:32 (four years ago) link

Full transcript of his melted-brain ravings in front of a large crowd of youths (Turning Point USA conference). Read if you dare.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 22:34 (four years ago) link

(xp) Considering the whole 4chan/PUA/AlphaAF/cuck culture that prevails in certain corners of online youth culture, it's not hard to see how Trump is popular in certain channels.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 22:36 (four years ago) link

I gave the commencement address at the Air Force Academy recently, and at Annapolis the year before. (Applause.) And they said, “Sir, would you like to shake the hands of all the cadets?” I said, “How many are there?” “One thousand one hundred.” I said, “Yeah, that sounds okay.” (Applause.) I say, “Do other Presidents do it?” “Yes, they do.” “Do all of them?” “Yeah, they do.”

What they didn’t say is they start and then they peter out and they go back. Because it’s — it’s tough. It was really hot. That sun was beaming down. And I’m just one hand. And some of these guys are great athletes. And some of the women — they had some women in the class that were — their hands were very strong, okay? (Laughter.) And they’re all shaking. And, you know, they’re a little nervous, maybe; they’re meeting the President. They’re shaking strongly and — “Sir.” But, you know, with shaking 1,100 hands and saluting. We’re saluting, shaking, turning, spinning. They’re coming at all different directions. (Laughter.) I felt like a great fighter pilot. (Laughter.)

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 23:01 (four years ago) link

still kind of absorbing the totality of the qanon stella person

it really sounded like she was reading phonetically off cue cards and I had to pause at “special education teacher”

untuned mass damper (mh), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 23:07 (four years ago) link

A MAGA hat and a STOP HATE t shirt?

koogs, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 01:14 (four years ago) link

Not sure what your point is but one party is serious about power and the other isn’t. https://t.co/9geqYf9q2N

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) July 24, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 01:17 (four years ago) link

not sure what his point is except the obviousness

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 01:21 (four years ago) link

"I’m just one hand" for August title.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 01:29 (four years ago) link

sobering

Boris Johnson, Macron, Putin, Trump, & Xi Jinping are now the heads of the permanent 5 at the UN security council and ultimate protectors of our collective international peace & security.

— Edin Omanovic (@Edin_O) July 23, 2019

Why does Trump appeal to so many youngsters? How is it 'cool' (I'm old lol) to latch onto the trainwreck of this orange blob with diarrhea for brains? Don't they notice he can barely speak two coherent sentences? Why is it attractive at all to engage with this? Rebellion isn't what it used to be, is it? Did Reagan have such a big youth following? Was there a Nixon jugend? I just don't get why so many young people applaud this repulsive creature.


pareene wrote about it well but it’s pretty much like... why nu-metal was a thing

https://thebaffler.com/salvos/teenage-pricks-pareene

maura, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 02:26 (four years ago) link

when trump uses “sir” in a story he’s lying

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/07/16/politics/sir-trump-telltale-word-false/index.html

maura, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 02:27 (four years ago) link

"I’m just one hand" for August title.
― frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain

Was just coming to say the same thing!

That Omar speech is dead fucking on.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 02:35 (four years ago) link

mediate reporting on pj media* is some circling the content drain shit

* fka pajamas media

maura, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 02:39 (four years ago) link

Hey Mordy and treeship, yall should read that baffler article. treesh, you can ask mordy to explain it to you in your little AIM chatroom if you have a hard time with some of the longer words

Dan I., Wednesday, 24 July 2019 03:06 (four years ago) link

pretty bold move calling out someone who doesn't appear to have even posted to this thread

dick

mookieproof, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 03:15 (four years ago) link

yeah where the hell did that come from? that was your first post in like a week too

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 03:19 (four years ago) link

From that trasncrtipt:

They don’t realize there’s more of you than there is of them. They just haven’t figured that out yet. (Applause.) They’ll understand. They’ll figure it out someday.

THey they they they who the fuck is THEY Donny? I mean like just say it man, say "the left", say "liberals", say anything but THEY you paste brained shit smear.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 03:30 (four years ago) link

he's talking about Mordy and treeship

Vape Store (crüt), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 03:34 (four years ago) link

when trump uses “sir” in a story he’s lying

It’s a ludicrous tell in his delivery of reported speech, but so is him reporting speech at all

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 04:37 (four years ago) link

Worth noting

"An 18-year-old Dallas-born U.S. citizen has been in the custody of CBP & ICE for more than 3 weeks, his attorney says.

Now his family fears he may be deported."https://t.co/S7be0SygpF

— Jesse Lehrich (@JesseLehrich) July 23, 2019

nashwan, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 07:12 (four years ago) link

I hope the morning I'm about to give up for this doesn't turn out to be a complete waste. Which is a distinct possibility.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 12:08 (four years ago) link

xpost The kid has been released, thank goodness. Let this be a lesson to all travelers that when trying to cross a border, but especially the Mexico-US border, while Mexican, particularly in this climate, bring more than your school ID.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 12:19 (four years ago) link

I hope the morning I'm about to give up for this doesn't turn out to be a complete waste. Which is a distinct possibility.

― clemenza, Wednesday, July 24, 2019 8:08 AM (thirty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I feel like this is a "fool me twice, shame on me" type situation so personally I'm keeping my distance.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 12:42 (four years ago) link

I'll hold the football, Charlie Brown

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 12:46 (four years ago) link

Wtf at the scheduling here
So many people are commuting right now

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 12:50 (four years ago) link

it's okay he's already explaining why he won't say anything worth hearing

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 12:50 (four years ago) link

says he will respect Barr gag order of a couple days ago

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 12:51 (four years ago) link

Good morning!!!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 12:53 (four years ago) link

I thought I heard that the 18 year old facing deportation actually had various other forms of i.d. on him at the time, or is taht another case of false deportation? Story I was hearing was that he was on the way to a football championship and showed papers that the authorities claimed to be forged.
THis guy?
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/a-u-s-citizen-has-been-in-immigration-custody-for-weeks.html

I heard the story on a podcast earlier.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 12:57 (four years ago) link

Grampy Bob needs to turn up his hearing aid.

my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:04 (four years ago) link

Mueller: the only facts in the world are facts described by words in the specific order I arrange them. I am unparaphrasable.

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:12 (four years ago) link

"Respectfully, Respectfully!"

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:13 (four years ago) link

that last dude was an ass but he raised a good point: where does this 'you cannot indict' language come from?

akm, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:15 (four years ago) link

Mueller is a dope imo

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:18 (four years ago) link

that last dude was an ass but he raised a good point: where does this 'you cannot indict' language come from?

That was effective, yeah. Throwing in "socialists" was laughable, though.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:23 (four years ago) link

Bob Mumble mouth Mueller

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:24 (four years ago) link

literally nothing is gonna come out of this, idk why Republicans are so fired up about it

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:29 (four years ago) link

i don't know how any of this helps at all.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:30 (four years ago) link

like they're already parroting the "GOP Presidents can commit unlimited crimes" line which is 100% true

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:30 (four years ago) link

Mueller’s persona was superhero-like while he remained silent. Now that he speaks he’s turned into a fumbling, stay-in-your-lane Clark Kent.

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:31 (four years ago) link

Any event which might finally induce that massive Trumpian coronary we've all been dreaming of is worthwhile for that possibility if no other.

my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:32 (four years ago) link

xpost In the article posted a couple of posts back, updated yesterday, he says the only ID he had on him was a Texas ID (state ID?). In the NYMag article his lawyer says that "Galicia was carrying several types of identification when he was stopped at the checkpoint, “including a wallet-sized Texas birth certificate, a Texas ID card and Social Security card.” So someone is being inaccurate. Now, whether he was *expected* to have other ID, that's a question. He didn't actually cross any border, did he? Anyway, fuck these border assholes, but this sounds like some crossed wires due to forms his mom filled out incorrectly.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:33 (four years ago) link

Mueller's distinction between "yes," "no," and "I refer you to the report" is puzzling.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:35 (four years ago) link

the only variable that seems to account for it is the length of the question

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:37 (four years ago) link

Louie Goober here to save the day

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:40 (four years ago) link

The only thing I can imagine coming from this is the GOP assholes self-goaling by goading him into getting more aggressive.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:40 (four years ago) link

lol THE LOVERS

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:43 (four years ago) link

Jesus, that's weak--guy accuses him of pursuing injustice, and "I take your question" is the response.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:45 (four years ago) link

Ridiculous that he won't defend himself or clarify

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:45 (four years ago) link

I like how Bob handled Louie

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:47 (four years ago) link

Weak sauce, he should defend his own team

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:48 (four years ago) link

agreed. I get the idea—that he feels the question is undeserving and refuses to dignify it. But "I take your question" isn't gonna play as a soundbite or do anything to beat back these conflict of interests accusations

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:53 (four years ago) link

then again *nothing* he could say wld discourage any of these ppl, Trump will be back with "total exoneration" in 30 mins

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:54 (four years ago) link

honestly why does anyone care about this hearing

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:55 (four years ago) link

I’m feeling nostalgic for Michael Cohen’s snark

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:56 (four years ago) link

I do don't think Mueller read the report

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:59 (four years ago) link

otm

Vape Store (crüt), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:00 (four years ago) link

he said that no one person reviewed the entire thing, right?

Vape Store (crüt), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:00 (four years ago) link

honestly why does anyone care about this hearing

It's a handy way for me to categorize the various Republicans: who's loudest? who's most sanctimonious?

confusementalism (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:04 (four years ago) link

I would have thought that Mueller would want to make sure the contents of his report were clarified. Otherwise what was the point of the 2 year investigation. Seems like the outcome people feared as worst case scenario.
Or is this going to get any more worthwhile.

Seems pretty frustrating so far.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:05 (four years ago) link

If I thought the Dems will start hearings I'd have more confidence in this tweet:

This format is awful, but Democrats are directly laying out the details of Mueller's findings on obstruction, while the Republicans are waaaaay off in the weeds asking about a flurry of peripheral matters.

— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) July 24, 2019

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:06 (four years ago) link

That last exchange--appearances are everything--did not go well.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:08 (four years ago) link

between Mueller and whom?

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:10 (four years ago) link

Jordan? The guy who was so annoying in the Cohen hearings. I know it's what the tweet above calls a peripheral matter, but there's a chance that this whole hearing will be reduced to how Mueller comes across, and I don't think he came across very well there.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:13 (four years ago) link

Just remembered that Trump isn't watching today. (Insert appropriate images, YouTube clips, GIFs, etc.) Was curious as to what--or how--he was tweeting.

"It has been reported that Robert Mueller is saying.."

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:23 (four years ago) link

Rep @CedricRichmond: 'it's fair to say that the president tried to protect himself by asking staff to falsify evidence relevant to an ongoing investigation?'
Mueller: 'I would say that's generally a summary'

— Marc Caputo (@MarcACaputo) July 24, 2019

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:24 (four years ago) link

jesus Bob's Big Boy grew up to be an asshole

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:26 (four years ago) link

Any event which might finally induce that massive Trumpian coronary we've all been dreaming of

I don't get this. Outrage (or its simulation) is his natural state.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:28 (four years ago) link

It was NEVER agreed that Robert Mueller could use one of his many Democrat Never Trumper lawyers to sit next to him and help him with his answers. This was specifically NOT agreed to, and I would NEVER have agreed to it. The Greatest Witch Hunt in U.S. history, by far!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 24, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:31 (four years ago) link

the fuck does Trump have to agree to that?

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:33 (four years ago) link

Why didn’t Robert Mueller & his band of 18 Angry Democrats spend any time investigating Crooked Hillary Clinton, Lyin’ & Leakin’ James Comey, Lisa Page and her Psycho lover, Peter S, Andy McCabe, the beautiful Ohr family, Fusion GPS, and many more, including HIMSELF & Andrew W?

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 24, 2019

comey: lyin' and leakin' live at budokan (1984)

Welshy's Lean Bulk - ****loads of pics (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:35 (four years ago) link

I've Got My Own Witch Hunt To Do

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:36 (four years ago) link

lol

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link

If you had the words "correct," "refer," or "what?" in the Mueller drinking game, you've probably already passed out and the rest of us left watching are envious of your unconsciousness...

— Jeffrey St. Clair (@JSCCounterPunch) July 24, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:40 (four years ago) link

Mueller just like the rest of us: had to be reminded who Corey Lewandowski is.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:41 (four years ago) link

lol PK

Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:56 (four years ago) link

The failure of democrats to consider whether Mueller was a dynamic speaker and whether his performance in a publicly-televised hearing might help or hinder their case is...just so adorably, endearingly dem, knowhutimean?

my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 15:02 (four years ago) link

i guess it'd be easier to respond to that if i understood what their case was

Welshy's Lean Bulk - ****loads of pics (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 15:04 (four years ago) link

I agree with the CNN Panel: the Democrats would have been wise to shut everything down after Nadler's opening series of questions. They were right to the point: they clearly refuted (not necessary for anyone with a brain, but on the record right from Mueller) that Trump was not exonerated. There's a real chance that all the stories and coverage of everything after that will be about Mueller's camera-readiness (or however you want to put that).

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link

(Theoretically wise--obviously that wasn't possible.)

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link

The Squad isn't part of this?

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 15:11 (four years ago) link

I assume at least part of the point of this was to shift public opinion one way or the other, but I think it's possible that not a single person in the country feels any differently about Trump's actions this morning than they did when they went to sleep last night.

my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 15:14 (four years ago) link

idk Mueller's statement that the only reason Trump wasn't charged was because he was President seems like a big deal, as is the assertation that he could be charged after he's out of office

"Trump could be arrested the moment he steps out of office" seems like something Dems could run on

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 15:24 (four years ago) link

yeah I was in the other room when I heard that exchange and thought, "Whoa, okay."

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 15:25 (four years ago) link

also the "he wasn't completely exonerated" bit

SHANTY the golden fish portion (stevie), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 15:28 (four years ago) link

The Steele Dossier is as mysterious to me as the Penske file...I heard somebody on TV yesterday say that if the Republicans pushed Mueller too hard on the Steele Dossier, he'd push back. Doesn't look that way--he just won't talk about it.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 15:37 (four years ago) link

honestly Twitter is unbearable nothing is ever going to come of this

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 15:46 (four years ago) link

Twitter, more like Shitter

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 15:55 (four years ago) link

@dan i read that baffler article. i'm always happy to read recommendations but plz only send me stuff that hasn't already been written a thousand times on jezebel, splinter, twitter, ilx, etc i mean good for former ilxor pareene to make money copy/pasting the most banal CW lib shitposts but if i wanted to read impotent raging against the right i'd bookmark one of the dozens of ilx threads we have for that purpose.

Mordy, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 16:01 (four years ago) link

The chryon on CNN (first time I've watched this channel since 1982): "Mueller: Trump not exonerated."

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 16:05 (four years ago) link

my rep Debbie Mucarsel-Powell at the mike now

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 16:07 (four years ago) link

Why can't Mueller bring himself to utter the word "impeachment"? He's not recommending it by acknowledging it exists.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 16:09 (four years ago) link

doesn't want the soundbite, I imagine.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 16:12 (four years ago) link

Maybe it'll make him poof out of existence like Mr. Mxyzptlk.

my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 16:14 (four years ago) link

If only these people had some influence over what gets covered.

NYT colleagues reax to Mueller:@adamgoldmanNYT:
So far, this hearing is not revealing new ground...By tomorrow it could be forgotten in this frenetic news cycle.@maggieNYT:
Adam, I think you’re being generous with “by tomorrow.”

— Trip Gabriel (@tripgabriel) July 24, 2019

is Kamala going to get to ask any questions cuz that's really the only thing that may yield anything of interest imo

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link

wrong house dude

Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 16:25 (four years ago) link

she's in the Senate, remember

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 16:25 (four years ago) link

Haberman has been predictably awful.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 16:26 (four years ago) link

I'm barely paying attention to this, so wasn't sure what chamber was going when

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 16:30 (four years ago) link

yeah im not about to look at the coverage of this shit as i'm sure it will only piss me off

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 16:32 (four years ago) link

LOVER

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 17:02 (four years ago) link

Gosh Nunes loves to play fast and loose with facts don't he?
Semi surprised he's still around , can't they get rid of him.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 17:06 (four years ago) link

"An angry man down the street"--new nickname.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link

"Greatest patriot in this room"--ugh.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 17:55 (four years ago) link

Why are all the Republicans hostile to the man who investigated a hostile foreign govt's attack on our elections?? Why do they seem totally uninterested in how the attack occurred and what can be done to prevent another one? I mean I know why...but why don't any Dems point this out?

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 18:38 (four years ago) link

i stopped reading and posting to these threads bc of wide-eyed confused posts like that but since dan summoned me and i'm already here:

what hostile foreign govt's attack? you mean russian assets potentially offering intelligence to trump about hillary? that's the "attack"??? i think the russian investigation has been useful to hurt the trump agenda and has probably been worthwhile from that perspective but if you don't think you'd be asking "how can republicans cynically continue to investigate our candidate for trying to get dirt on their opponent - using a dossier of dubious provenance" were the shoe on the other foot you're hopelessly naive and should probably stop following politics

Mordy, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 18:43 (four years ago) link

trying to get dirt on their opponent

lol

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 18:51 (four years ago) link

that's the "attack"???

No, but go right ahead with your condescension bro

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 18:53 (four years ago) link

they fucking hacked the DNC

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 18:54 (four years ago) link

it's true though that since Republicans in Congress just view Mueller as an Angry Democrat (lol) who was out to get Daddy Trump, they completely overlook important shit from the report that doesn't necessarily even connect directly to the President, such as the little fact that Russian military intelligence did hack the communications of numerous high-profile Democrats and had them systematically disseminated to produce maximum damage to Clinton's campaign (and honestly, I guess that latter issue is somewhat a matter of interpretation but it doesn't change the fact that they illegally hacked Podesta and the DNC and DCCC's comms).

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 18:56 (four years ago) link

the issue is that they didn't hack the DNC on trump's authorization, even if he was clued into it

Mordy, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 18:56 (four years ago) link

xp exactly, there's more to the attack than stuff directly related to Trump campaign colluding, and if you don't know that you're hopelessly clueless & should prob stop following politics

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 18:57 (four years ago) link

plus, maybe things have changed in the interim but it's well-known by now that the Gore campaign received debate prep materials swiped from the Bush campaign and then turned them over to the FBI.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 18:57 (four years ago) link

People keep yielding time to Nunes so that he can play fast and loose with fact.
Well maybe he'll do something useful inadvertently which seems to be about the only good he's ever done innit?
He's a Republican otherwise I might ask if he was ever a decent anything.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 18:58 (four years ago) link

Nunes has been pretty ineffective. I think the ranting Republicans on the other committee did better.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:03 (four years ago) link

what hostile foreign govt's attack?

Have you read the first few pages of the mueller report?

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link

Not the whole thing. Just the handful of summary pages for vol 1

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link

I know you’re keying in on trump’s direct involvement in the Russian hacking efforts (or lack thereof, as the report concludes), but much of Vol 1 of the report summarizes an investigation into that attack, which is ongoing. I think granny was correctly pointing out how slimy it is that republicans could care less about that.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:15 (four years ago) link

I highly recommend to anyone in the entire world: read the first few pages of each volume. Apparently it’s just me and like 3 other people who have accomplished this insane task

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:15 (four years ago) link

hi!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:16 (four years ago) link

and i'm noting that if there were similar events but they had benefited a democratic candidate we wouldn't be horrified in fact we'd likely be annoyed at the opposition for making a big deal out of it

Mordy, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:16 (four years ago) link

I read about 70 pages around a Henry Green novel. Their prose styles have similarities.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:16 (four years ago) link

Several of the GOP have even buddied up to Russia in the wake of things being uncovered over the last few years too.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:17 (four years ago) link

and i'm noting that if there were similar events but they had benefited a democratic candidate we wouldn't be horrified in fact we'd likely be annoyed at the opposition for making a big deal out of it

― Mordy, Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:16 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

Are you actually fucking serious rn

my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:18 (four years ago) link

and i'm noting that if there were similar events but they had benefited a democratic candidate we wouldn't be horrified in fact we'd likely be annoyed at the opposition for making a big deal out of it

― Mordy, Wednesday, July 24, 2019 3:16 PM (one minute ago)

gtfo I would not be annoyed at the guy pointing out and laying out the facts that Russians helped Hillary get elected

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:20 (four years ago) link

"Broaden the aperture"--check out the big brain on Adam Schiff.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:21 (four years ago) link

1) there were similar events, and the Dem candidate reported them to the FBI
2) who cares if "we" would be "horrified", that's totally missing the point. Dems should point out that Repubs have 0 interest in a "report on Russian meddling in the 2016 Presidential election", which is what the Mueller Report was, ie it wasn't a "report on Trump campaign colluding with Russia". For a party that bangs on endlessly about patriotism, this shows hypocrisy; that they don't care about protecting our elections if it may in any way implicate their guy. That their only interest here is to protect their guy, not the country.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:22 (four years ago) link

you can't really lay out like 4 nested hypotheticals and call it 'noting'

goole, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:22 (four years ago) link

wait wait slow down are you saying the Republicans are guilty of hypocrisy?!????

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:23 (four years ago) link

*grabs smelling salts*

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:23 (four years ago) link

oh shit they might be! i gotta look into this

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:24 (four years ago) link

lol I knew that reaction would come. everyone here knows that's beyond obvious. but Dems often fail to point it out and take them to task on it. this is yet another example.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:27 (four years ago) link

chutzpacrisy

is my sniglet for the day

you're welcome

my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:28 (four years ago) link

The Deplorable Zeroes of Chutzpacrisy

Fuck Trump, cops, and the CBP (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:36 (four years ago) link

Both Sides Do It at it again.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 20:39 (four years ago) link

White house lawn, how unpredictable really.
Couldn't he just die , in extreme pain or something.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 21:01 (four years ago) link

I’m thinking death on the can, Zinger burger in his hand.

suzy, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 21:06 (four years ago) link

Death on the can
Zinger burger in his hand
You're planning for a war with or without Iran
Building a police state with the Ku Klux Klan

Fuck Trump, cops, and the CBP (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 22:01 (four years ago) link

Republican doublethink is scary.
Just listening to the press conference.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 22:38 (four years ago) link

Well, this is interesting.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 23:25 (four years ago) link

They'd better not miss

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 23:39 (four years ago) link

It's hard to predict what story comes out of these things, but for what it's worth--and this is Canada, so take it with a grain of salt--when I was in the car after the hearings, the story on Toronto's big all-news station was collapsed into 1) Mueller made clear that Trump wasn't exonerated (not that that wasn't clear already), and 2) he can be charged once out of office. If it's not a right-wing outlet, maybe those are the two easiest headlines to grab onto.

clemenza, Thursday, 25 July 2019 02:09 (four years ago) link

That's what I saw even splashed on POLITICO's front page.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 July 2019 02:11 (four years ago) link

yeah I don't think this is a "win" for Trump the way the idiots on CNN are saying it is. lets not forget that "Mueller totally exonerates Trump - Barr" was the first headline to come out of this thing

frogbs, Thursday, 25 July 2019 02:58 (four years ago) link

like yeah the whole Mueller-as-savior-of-democracy thing is pretty embarrassing in retrospect but I think most people aren't brainbroken enough yet to realize that laws literally do not apply to powerful Republicans

frogbs, Thursday, 25 July 2019 03:01 (four years ago) link

Is this all you’ve been talking about all day

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Thursday, 25 July 2019 03:02 (four years ago) link

I was following Boris’ cabinet announcements to make myself feel better as an American

El Tomboto, Thursday, 25 July 2019 03:09 (four years ago) link

In the “I’m not alone” sense

Sadly very different than the “I’m never alone bcz Jesus” sense

El Tomboto, Thursday, 25 July 2019 03:11 (four years ago) link

frogbs: I was out and didn't see CNN tonight, but--while they may have had a couple of people on saying the hearings were good for Trump--I'm pretty sure that wouldn't have been their overall conclusion. Whatever you think of CNN, they despise Trump there (many run-ins between Trump and their news people, Jim Acosta most prominently). Their four evening shows obsessively enumerate whatever lies he tweeted that day every single night. So much so, it's oppressive. They had one thing up on their crawl machine during the entire hearings: "Mueller: Trump not exonerated." They didn't change it once.

clemenza, Thursday, 25 July 2019 04:58 (four years ago) link

So the new GOP spin seems to be that Mueller couldn't exonerate Trump anyway it wasn't a thing he could do. He didn't have the power.
Not the facts when examined don't exonerate him as Mueller responded to Barr's initial announcement with.

Stevolende, Thursday, 25 July 2019 06:21 (four years ago) link

🤔🤔🤔

Jeffrey Epstein, the millionaire financier who is being held on federal sex trafficking charges, was found injured and in a fetal position in his cell at a New York City jail, sources close to the investigation told NBC News on Wednesday night.

Epstein, 66, was found semi-conscious with marks on his neck in his cell at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan some time in the last two days, the sources said. Epstein is on suicide watch, two sources said.

Two sources told NBC News that Epstein may have tried to hang himself, while a third source cautioned that the injuries weren't serious, questioning whether Epstein might have staged an attack or a suicide attempt to get a transfer to another facility.

another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 July 2019 06:25 (four years ago) link

Nothing to see here!

Simon H., Thursday, 25 July 2019 06:34 (four years ago) link

I was following Boris’ cabinet announcements to make myself feel better as an American

Good luck with that.

Ned Trifle X, Thursday, 25 July 2019 08:08 (four years ago) link

And please, it's Bojo now.

Ned Trifle X, Thursday, 25 July 2019 08:10 (four years ago) link

NO CUTE NICKNAMES.

suzy, Thursday, 25 July 2019 08:20 (four years ago) link

yeah, part of the normalisation process innit? JUst want to get the guy out as fast as possible.
Both sides of the Atlantic need rather sweeping revolutions, innit.
Or just surrender to the continual spin.

Stevolende, Thursday, 25 July 2019 08:36 (four years ago) link

I believe we call him Britain Trump?

SHANTY the golden fish portion (stevie), Thursday, 25 July 2019 08:40 (four years ago) link

I was saying Boooris

nashwan, Thursday, 25 July 2019 08:43 (four years ago) link

That Republican press conference last night was quite absurd wasn't it?
Shades of the playground, at least in the support of trump. Imagine you had been President and done nothing wrong for 3 years and had somebody witch-hunting you? Like not continually and almost endlessly finding new ways of showing off how utterly corrupt and corrupting you are. But like sitting there being all innocent, not breaking down government, destroying the nation's reputation across teh globe and being a general laughing stock.

I guess I'm not seeing much actual concentrated GOP where they're not already being shown in a position of wrongness so I'm not getting the underlying epistemology. & i think it was during that press conference that Nunes was talking about Democrats existing in another world, since they didn't see things the same way. Interesting inversion, innit?

Stevolende, Thursday, 25 July 2019 08:45 (four years ago) link

back to epstein's very normal, definitely-not-an-assassination-or-a-warning suicide attempt for a sec

Another inmate in that jail, where Epstein is being held without bail, has been questioned about the incident.

NBC reported that the inmate was Nicholas Tartaglione, a former Orange County, New York, police officer who was arrested in December 2016 and accused of killing four men in an alleged cocaine distribution conspiracy.

Sources told WNBC that Tartaglione claimed that he did not see anything happen to Epstein, and said he did not touch him. Tartaglione’s lawyer told the station that his client and Epstein get along with each other, and that Epstein was seen at the jail Wednesday and appeared to be fine.

Tartaglione has pleaded not guilty in his case. Prosecutors announced in March they would seek the death penalty for the ex-cop.

*thinkyfaceemjoji.png*

another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 July 2019 08:46 (four years ago) link

lmao toilet paper usa does it again

As Donald Trump addressed a rightwing crowd in Washington on Tuesday, the audience roared in support – but it was a doctored onscreen display that ultimately took center stage.

At a student summit hosted by the conservative group Turning Point USA, the president stood before what looks, to the casual observer, very much like the US presidential seal. A thorough examination by the Washington Post, however, reveals some odd tweaks to the image.

First, the eagle has not one but two heads – making it look a lot like Russia’s coat of arms. And instead of holding arrows, as the bird does in the US seal, it’s holding golf clubs.

In other words, a proud presidential symbol was apparently reworked to shame Trump over two of the biggest targets of anti-Trump criticism – Russian involvement in the 2016 election and excessive golfing – and it was displayed behind the president for all to see.

How this happened remains a mystery. The Post spoke with a White House representative who said officials hadn’t seen the image in advance. A spokesperson for Turning Point USA, meanwhile, told the paper he was stumped as to the origins of the image, characterizing it as “a last-minute A/V mistake”. “I can’t figure out who did it yet,” the spokesman said, adding that he didn’t know where the image had come from.

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/45dd557db62183d6d05272275e257bc16bfd3591/0_132_3000_1799/master/3000.jpg?width=620&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=ead1d987054569abade0fb673a529e3a

another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 July 2019 09:11 (four years ago) link

I missed the start of yesterday's hearing, found out that CNN here was playing the Boris inauguration so had to find it on youtube.
So didn't hear the opening statement until after everything was over.
& then see Mueller saying that he was constrained by that ruling that the DOJ sent him a couple of days ago. Was that actually obligatory or was that him just playing by the rules even though they were moving the goalposts?

Just wondering how this would have played without additional constraints being added at the last minute.
Am hoping that this does push things in the right direction but can see that any not already interested party might have not taken anything from it.
& I'm assuming that Fox is repeating the spin from the GOP committee members.

Stevolende, Thursday, 25 July 2019 09:14 (four years ago) link

In other words, a proud presidential symbol was apparently reworked to shame Trump over two of the biggest targets of anti-Trump criticism – Russian involvement in the 2016 election and excessive golfing – and it was displayed behind the president for all to see.

well played whomever

SHANTY the golden fish portion (stevie), Thursday, 25 July 2019 10:06 (four years ago) link

I guess we should get our laughs in now before he officially makes this the new presidential seal.

my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 25 July 2019 12:54 (four years ago) link

I'm guessing the seal was some junior staffer's error, hastily downloading a presidential seal from somewhere, not double-checking it, not actually knowing what the seal is supposed to look like.

NBC reported that the inmate was Nicholas Tartaglione, a former Orange County, New York, police officer who was arrested in December 2016 and accused of killing four men in an alleged cocaine distribution conspiracy.

This happened in a club in my town. I have former coworkers who have been there. (Just for drinking, not for getting murdered or anything.)

tokyo rosemary, Thursday, 25 July 2019 13:35 (four years ago) link

I'm guessing the seal was some junior staffer's error, hastily downloading a presidential seal from somewhere, not double-checking it, not actually knowing what the seal is supposed to look like.


Are you being sarcastic? The one they displayed was a very specific parody, and the actual seal of the president is really easy to find.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 25 July 2019 13:39 (four years ago) link

i'm increasingly convinced that charlie kirk is a kaufmanesque performance artist

another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:01 (four years ago) link

yeah the diaper stunt was just too spot on, I didn't buy it

frogbs, Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:04 (four years ago) link

_I'm guessing the seal was some junior staffer's error, hastily downloading a presidential seal from somewhere, not double-checking it, not actually knowing what the seal is supposed to look like._


Are you being sarcastic? The one they displayed was a very specific parody, and the actual seal of the president is really easy to find.


well... tpusa isn’t really known for its smarts.

maura, Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:10 (four years ago) link

also...the caption was "45 es un titere" (titere = puppet) instead of "E Pluribus Unum"

frogbs, Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:16 (four years ago) link

I don’t know where you’d have found that particular fake seal before this week, much less by accident

El Tomboto, Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:16 (four years ago) link

ya was def intentional

Carisis LaVerted (m bison), Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:16 (four years ago) link

good morning!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:17 (four years ago) link

I can buy that it was an accident

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:22 (four years ago) link

Previous administrations had someone in charge of providing official materials in advance of presidential appearances. Lazy idiocy wins again!

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:26 (four years ago) link

if it was an accident I can't imagine how it could've happened...the thing doesn't really show up on Google searches either. you have to specifically look for it.

frogbs, Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:27 (four years ago) link

i actually made that seal

Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:27 (four years ago) link

i don't know why i typed that, sorry. but i wish i had

Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:28 (four years ago) link

...made that seal, not typed that.

sorry.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:28 (four years ago) link

Barr has just announced that the federal government is going to resume executing people. The first 5 lucky winners have been chosen, but not yet named - the first killing will be on December 9, and almost certainly televised live on Fox News.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:32 (four years ago) link

Upon the Attorney General’s direction, Acting Director Hurwitz adopted the Addendum to the Federal Execution Protocol and, in accordance with 28 C.F.R. Part 26, scheduled executions for the following individuals:

• Daniel Lewis Lee, a member of a white supremacist group, murdered a family of three, including an eight-year-old girl. After robbing and shooting the victims with a stun gun, Lee covered their heads with plastic bags, sealed the bags with duct tape, weighed down each victim with rocks, and threw the family of three into the Illinois bayou. On May 4, 1999, a jury in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Arkansas found Lee guilty of numerous offenses, including three counts of murder in aid of racketeering, and he was sentenced to death. Lee’s execution is scheduled to occur on Dec. 9, 2019.
• Lezmond Mitchell stabbed to death a 63-year-old grandmother and forced her nine-year-old granddaughter to sit beside her lifeless body for a 30 to 40-mile drive. Mitchell then slit the girl’s throat twice, crushed her head with 20-pound rocks, and severed and buried both victims’ heads and hands. On May 8, 2003, a jury in the U.S. District Court for the District of Arizona found Mitchell guilty of numerous offenses, including first degree murder, felony murder, and carjacking resulting in murder, and he was sentenced to death. Mitchell’s execution is scheduled to occur on Dec. 11, 2019.
• Wesley Ira Purkey violently raped and murdered a 16-year-old girl, and then dismembered, burned, and dumped the young girl’s body in a septic pond. He also was convicted in state court for using a claw hammer to bludgeon to death an 80-year-old woman who suffered from polio and walked with a cane. On Nov. 5, 2003, a jury in the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Missouri found Purkey guilty of kidnapping a child resulting in the child’s death, and he was sentenced to death. Purkey’s execution is scheduled to occur on Dec. 13, 2019.
• Alfred Bourgeois physically and emotionally tortured, sexually molested, and then beat to death his two-and-a-half-year-old daughter. On March 16, 2004, a jury in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Texas found Bourgeois guilty of multiple offenses, including murder, and he was sentenced to death. Bourgeois’ execution is scheduled to occur on Jan. 13, 2020.
• Dustin Lee Honken shot and killed five people—two men who planned to testify against him and a single, working mother and her ten-year-old and six-year-old daughters. On Oct. 14, 2004, a jury in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Iowa found Honken guilty of numerous offenses, including five counts of murder during the course of a continuing criminal enterprise, and he was sentenced to death. Honken’s execution is scheduled to occur on Jan. 15, 2020.

Each of these inmates has exhausted their appellate and post-conviction remedies, and currently no legal impediments prevent their executions, which will take place at U.S. Penitentiary Terre Haute, Indiana. Additional executions will be scheduled at a later date.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:35 (four years ago) link

Additional executions will be scheduled at a later date.

Already gave season 2 the green light, it appears.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:36 (four years ago) link

they're executing a white supremacist, therefore trump is not a racist fyi

another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:40 (four years ago) link

Also executing the Bourgeois, so it's fair.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:41 (four years ago) link

surprised the guy who attacked Epstein wasn't on that list

frogbs, Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:42 (four years ago) link

nah he'll just turn up dead in his cell in a week or two having beaten himself to death

another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:44 (four years ago) link

also, lol eric

another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:44 (four years ago) link

No self-respecting white supremacist would be so gauche as to openly self-identify as such, so it's incumbent upon the 'whooo, meeee?' variety to do everything they can to underscore the distinction

my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:50 (four years ago) link

adollarap

Vape Store (crüt), Thursday, 25 July 2019 15:14 (four years ago) link

what's the point in being president if you can't successfully pressure the president of sweden to drop charges against someone you've only just heard about because kim kardashian wants you to, smdh

another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 July 2019 15:17 (four years ago) link

this is from yesterday's wapo, but i think it's worth immortalising itt because democracy dies in darkness

What Robert Mueller and Pickle Rick have in common

By Stephen Stromberg
Opinion writer
July 24 at 4:26 PM

Throughout Wednesday’s congressional hearings with former special counsel Robert S. Mueller III, I was reminded of the opening scene of the iconic “Pickle Rick” episode of the irreverent Adult Swim show, “Rick and Morty.”

“I turned myself into a pickle, Morty,” says Rick, formerly a genius mad scientist, now little more than a sentient gherkin, to his grandson.

“And?” Morty replies.

“And? What more do you want tacked on to this?”

On Wednesday, Mueller’s answers could be summed up: “I made a report. What more do you want tacked on to this?”

another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 July 2019 15:26 (four years ago) link

Trumps face when he finds out it's not Sylvester Stallone

Evan, Thursday, 25 July 2019 15:27 (four years ago) link

boss: did you look at the data?
me, a data scientist: yes
boss: your report doesn't say whether there was or wasn't an effect
me: no. it does not
boss: was there no effect?
me: if there was no effect, i would say so.
boss: so there was an effect?
me: *sips water* not saying that

— Kareem 🔥10x statistician🔥 Carr (@kareem_carr) July 24, 2019

j., Thursday, 25 July 2019 15:53 (four years ago) link

they're executing a white supremacist, therefore trump is not a racist fyi

The family he killed was white, is the point -- dad was a gun dealer who sold to the white supremacist anti-government militias. Those guys are important, can't have them getting murdered in deals gone wrong.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 25 July 2019 16:11 (four years ago) link

What Robert Mueller and Pickle Rick have in common

hooboy

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 25 July 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link

complexion?

Evan, Thursday, 25 July 2019 16:25 (four years ago) link

if we can a comment from someone tangential to the music industry that will be an excellent pitchfork news item

Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 July 2019 16:26 (four years ago) link

Mac DeMarco "doesn't get" Robert 'Pickle Rick' Mueller and that's okay... and here's why along with his five favorite IPAs

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 25 July 2019 16:30 (four years ago) link

I enjoy watching Rick and Morty most of the time but it is an undeniable truth that pop culture in general would have been better off had that show never made it to air.

brigadier pudding (DJP), Thursday, 25 July 2019 16:33 (four years ago) link

oh i love Rick and Morty but it is undeniably sub-xkcd fandom at its worst

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 25 July 2019 16:36 (four years ago) link

House Intelligence Chair Adam Schiff (D-CA) on Thursday poured cold water on the idea of impeaching President Donald Trump in the wake of special counsel Robert Mueller’s hearings.

Like House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), Schiff said he still isn’t convinced that it’s the right time to start impeachment proceedings.

“Can we make the case to the country and does the country benefit going through an impeachment if it’s going to be unsuccessful? And we know in the Senate, at least, it would be unsuccessful,” Schiff told CNN reporter John Berman.

“So I’m not there yet but I’m keeping an open mind and I may get there,” he continued.

The Intelligence Committee chair said that the upcoming 2020 election is “unquestionably the only way [Trump] gets removed from office” and that Democrats “need to be realistic.”

“The only way he’s leaving office, at least at this point, is by being voted out,” Schiff said.

seriously, draft up a new constitution. ours is one of the oldest in the world. the balance of powers no longer works, demonstrably.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:31 (four years ago) link

(i know, we can't)

Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:32 (four years ago) link

we may very well vote him out of office (by making sure he's defeated by the minimum 4-5% popular vote margin to secure the electoral college, of course, which is no guarantee that democrats would win enough in enough gerrymandered districts across the country to make gains in the house)

then he can crash the economy on the way out, setting up battles over the suddenly important federal deficit and cuts to spending over the course of a democratic term, of course

Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:38 (four years ago) link

some patriotic American you are, Karl.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:39 (four years ago) link

also, has it been mentioned that the democrats did a SHITTY job conducting the hearings yesterday (schiff excepted)

Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link

i heard more than one democrat run out of questions long before their very short 5 minutes had expired. how the fuck do you not come up with enough questions when you have months/years to prepare?

Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:44 (four years ago) link

just make the fucking intern do it, if you can't be bothered

Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:45 (four years ago) link

GOOD. MOURNING!

Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:45 (four years ago) link

They (and the ranking members) knew for weeks that Rob was gonna be a Zombie yet they didn't strategize?

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:52 (four years ago) link

oh Alfred

brigadier pudding (DJP), Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link

Allow me my fifth-rat jokes. It's 2 p.m. and half my students haven't shown for evals.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:56 (four years ago) link

i feel like the "strategize" part should have been replaced with another Rob Zombie reference to really make the joke sing

Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:06 (four years ago) link

wasn't giving Genius the clicks

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link

https://www.thelittlechimpsociety.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/fiveratschimp.jpg

FIFTH RAT JOKES

El Tomboto, Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link

see the fifth rat? He's sniffing for bad jokes

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:14 (four years ago) link

1. Thank you for going there.
2. Thank you for going there to a high level of cuteness and quality.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:15 (four years ago) link

making sure he's defeated by the minimum 4-5% popular vote margin to secure the electoral college, of course, which is no guarantee that democrats would win enough in enough gerrymandered districts across the country to make gains in the house

Dems won the popular House vote by 8 points in 2018, so a 4-5% win for Trump's challenger would probably mean the House keeps their majority but it shrinks a little. Of course incumbency helps, people split tickets, etc., but Dems just had a really good election, picking up a lot of the seats it's feasible for Dems to hold, and it's hard to see them making their majority much bigger absent a really big blowout win at the top of the ticket (which is certainly not impossible.)

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:17 (four years ago) link

can i pre-emptively whine about how much i especially hate mcconnell in the future version of the world where democrats win the white house + house but not the senate, and politico is reporting that mcconnell convened a GOP leadership meeting the night of election night 2020 to declare that their number one priority was defeating Pres. __, etc etc. that's like the best case scenario world right now too

Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 July 2019 19:01 (four years ago) link

i feel like a guy who is addicted to smoking compost, envyingly eyeing the guy addicted to chewing found cigar butts

Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 July 2019 19:02 (four years ago) link

buttz*

Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 July 2019 19:02 (four years ago) link

Had I known as a child that things like opposite day and the absurd fictional terrorist organization called Cobra were, in fact, brown acid visions of a future America, I would've been a whole lot more agnostic about the wisdom of drinking stuff with a Mr. Yuk label on it.

my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 25 July 2019 19:07 (four years ago) link

Then watch the following clip as if Destro were McConnell and Cobra Commander were Trump:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8eZ7yuGJFo

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 July 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link

"You psychotic sibilant of a dolt!"

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 July 2019 19:12 (four years ago) link

ftr, adam schiff sucks and should be primaried from the left

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 25 July 2019 19:49 (four years ago) link

My admiration for Schiff has, until now, been based on his ability to form complex, grammatically correct sentences which embody actual thoughts and ideas. This is such a refreshing contrast from the average House member that he appears as a paragon of rationality when placed in their company.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 25 July 2019 19:54 (four years ago) link

Schiff and to a lesser extent Nadler was terrific yesterday.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 July 2019 20:14 (four years ago) link

what the fuck

Very disappointed in Prime Minister Stefan Löfven for being unable to act. Sweden has let our African American Community down in the United States. I watched the tapes of A$AP Rocky, and he was being followed and harassed by troublemakers. Treat Americans fairly! #FreeRocky

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 25, 2019


Give A$AP Rocky his FREEDOM. We do so much for Sweden but it doesn’t seem to work the other way around. Sweden should focus on its real crime problem! #FreeRocky

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 25, 2019

can't wait for another round of idiot right wingers claiming this DESTROYS the racist narrative

frogbs, Thursday, 25 July 2019 21:42 (four years ago) link

"Give A$AP Rocky his FREEDOM" is Amistad worthy.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 July 2019 21:44 (four years ago) link

Apparently in Trump's world "fairness" is treating US celebrities better than local crime suspects because USA has done "so much" for Sweden.

Btw, the guy they beat up is apparently a Middle Eastern asylum seeker, so I'm not sure if any kind of racist narrative can be easily attached to the whole story.

Tuomas, Thursday, 25 July 2019 21:59 (four years ago) link

might be part of why Trump is so eager to free him as well

Vape Store (crüt), Thursday, 25 July 2019 22:00 (four years ago) link

legit impressed he figured out how to make his phone do an umlaut

del griffith, Thursday, 25 July 2019 22:02 (four years ago) link

you mean Dan Scavino did

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 25 July 2019 22:07 (four years ago) link

Obvious this was coming after that initial 'very talented..' set up.

nashwan, Thursday, 25 July 2019 22:21 (four years ago) link

Apparently in Trump's world "fairness" is treating US celebrities better than local crime suspects because USA has done "so much" for Sweden.

his thing is telling other people and countries that they owe him, and if they don't give what he demands, he more confrontational.

he is the most unfairly treated president in united states history, and most unfairly treated person in human history

Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 July 2019 22:27 (four years ago) link

he ^gets^ more confrontational

Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 July 2019 22:27 (four years ago) link

Meanwhile: pobrecito!

Tonight I tweeted a pic of a Georgetown party hosted by @maureendowd, attended by @SpeakerPelosi, @SenSchumer and DC journos. In the old days it would’ve been a benign big-shot brag. No more. It was viciously ratio’d by left and right. I deleted it. All establishments are hated.

— Howard Fineman (@howardfineman) July 25, 2019

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 July 2019 22:37 (four years ago) link

100% serious here: is that qanon stella woman mentally well? she sounds like she can barely talk.

Errrrr,

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/25/danielle-stella-republican-ilhan-omar-charged-felony-qanon-trump

Arthur Lowe & Love (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 July 2019 22:39 (four years ago) link

A criminal complaint filed to Hennepin county district court alleged Stella was seen leaving the store without paying for most of her haul, after “scanning only a few other items” that were valued at about $50.

The complaint said Stella told police in a statement she “remembers arriving at Target to purchase items but nothing else” due to post-traumatic stress disorder, and that she “normally she goes to Target with someone because of anxiety around people”.

triggered much, snowflake?

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 25 July 2019 23:07 (four years ago) link

Officers in nearby Bloomington then arrested Stella on 28 April after she was allegedly seen by security staff at a Cub Foods grocery store stealing a bottle of tick spray for cats, and placing other items “under her purse so that they could not be seen”.

brigadier pudding (DJP), Thursday, 25 July 2019 23:10 (four years ago) link

I think, at a bare minimum, she should seek counseling for kleptomania

brigadier pudding (DJP), Thursday, 25 July 2019 23:10 (four years ago) link

(She's the one who stole a former staffer's personal laptop, isn't she?_

brigadier pudding (DJP), Thursday, 25 July 2019 23:11 (four years ago) link

Stole/kept, yes.

Coelacanth Green (Leee), Thursday, 25 July 2019 23:14 (four years ago) link

I'm not sure how things work over there but can anyone just say they're running for Congress? Don't they have vetting procedures or selection committees or anything?

Arthur Lowe & Love (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 July 2019 23:18 (four years ago) link

Ah yes the uk, where relatively few criminals are in office.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 25 July 2019 23:28 (four years ago) link

Anyone can run in the primary (which is what Stella is doing -- she's facing other GOP candidates ATM) provided that they file an application correctly.

As for vetting, that's what the party does when they're looking for a candidate they specifically support (with money, donors, staff, etc.) in a race; an unvetted candidate is basically running outside of the establishment system.

Coelacanth Green (Leee), Thursday, 25 July 2019 23:30 (four years ago) link

(xp) Not so much the criminality as the 'anxiety around people' and the, er, rest.

Arthur Lowe & Love (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 July 2019 23:32 (four years ago) link

just being a conspiracy theorist is worthy of DSM classification imo

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 25 July 2019 23:33 (four years ago) link

will chuck todd or maggie haberman have anything to say about the 'optics' of mitch blocking election security bills on the same day as

Russian Hack of Elections System Was Far-Reaching, Report Finds

mookieproof, Thursday, 25 July 2019 23:42 (four years ago) link

i mean i hate the 'this is outrageous and should be leading every newscast/paper in america' genre but

mookieproof, Thursday, 25 July 2019 23:43 (four years ago) link

xps What Leee said.

Generally, anyone registered with the state elections office as a member of one of the two major parties may pay a fee to file as a candidate for office in that party's primary election. The winner of the primary election becomes that party's candidate in the general election. The exceptions to this are very few and hardly worth mentioning.

Minor/third parties often choose a different method to place their candidates for the general election, often through calling a party convention where the attendees select the candidates.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 25 July 2019 23:44 (four years ago) link

i'm still slack jawed from the President of the United States responding to the detaining of a Harlem rapper with "Sweden should focus on its real crime problem!"
can't stop being terrified about how impressionable this guy is BY ANYBODY. Guarantee you the first time he had heard of A$AP was via a Kardashian and a day later he's prepared to cause an international incident over him. it's madness.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 25 July 2019 23:52 (four years ago) link

I'm almost literally holding my breath waiting for the first world leader to respond to him with anything close to "Shut up, you idiot."

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 26 July 2019 00:03 (four years ago) link

Instead, they just gossip about his stupidity at G-7 and G-20 summits whenever he's not in the room.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 26 July 2019 00:05 (four years ago) link

Oh, that's 100% guaranteed. I just want one of them to do it into a hot mic while he's standing right there.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 26 July 2019 00:12 (four years ago) link

Merkel's got a great burn book.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 26 July 2019 00:31 (four years ago) link

Relative to Latinx and people from the Middle East idk if it’s better or worse that Trump has juuuuust enough regard for African Americans to deeply patronize them at every opportunity.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 26 July 2019 01:33 (four years ago) link

Vote for me, I freed all the rappers! You people love the rap music, right?

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 26 July 2019 01:34 (four years ago) link

xps a lot of states require a petition w/signatures to get on a ballot for many positions

untuned mass damper (mh), Friday, 26 July 2019 02:33 (four years ago) link

(xp) Not so much the criminality as the 'anxiety around people' and the, er, rest.

― Arthur Lowe & Love (Tom D.), Thursday, July 25, 2019 7:32 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_O%27Mara

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 26 July 2019 02:56 (four years ago) link

^^^ pmvic

SHANTY the golden fish portion (stevie), Friday, 26 July 2019 07:06 (four years ago) link

Future heatwave tip: I managed to cool down enough to sleep by holding a frozen water bottle against pulse points (bend of arm, back of knees, inside wrist) which brought near-immediate relief.

suzy, Friday, 26 July 2019 08:23 (four years ago) link

Wrong thread, oops!

suzy, Friday, 26 July 2019 08:24 (four years ago) link

'Sweden's real crime problem' is absolutely a dogwhistle for 'too much immigration', btw

Frederik B, Friday, 26 July 2019 09:49 (four years ago) link

As a Minnesotan I can safely say Sweden’s done more for America than America has for Sweden.

suzy, Friday, 26 July 2019 09:59 (four years ago) link

good morning!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 July 2019 10:27 (four years ago) link

Called it:

By Thursday morning, the Turning Point spokesman said, the group had identified the staffer responsible for turning Leazott’s design into a trending topic. He called the incident a last-minute oversight, the result of a quick online search to find a second high-resolution photo of the presidential seal to place behind Trump. He said the mistake was “unacceptable.”

“We did let the individual go,” the spokesman said. “I don’t think it was malicious intent but nevertheless.”

Interview with guy who designed the seal is funny: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/07/25/meet-man-who-created-fake-presidential-seal-former-republican-fed-up-with-trump/?utm_term=.745d4adb0c42

France just put a digital tax on our great American technology companies. If anybody taxes them, it should be their home Country, the USA. We will announce a substantial reciprocal action on Macron’s foolishness shortly. I’ve always said American wine is better than French wine!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 26, 2019

take it from infamous teetotaler Donald Trump

frogbs, Friday, 26 July 2019 17:16 (four years ago) link

TBF I'm sure he'd say the same about books and grooming products and psychotherapy and all kinds of other American goods and services he's never had any use for.

my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Friday, 26 July 2019 17:26 (four years ago) link

If anybody taxes them, it should be their home Country, the USA.


a real stopped-clock situation here

another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 26 July 2019 17:29 (four years ago) link

so nobody's told him what "tariffs" actually are, then

Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 July 2019 17:58 (four years ago) link

They told him but, what, are you gonna not intently watch that squirrel as it scampers around the White House lawn while a bunch of boring nobodies are blah blah blahing in your ear about something stupid and official-sounding?

my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Friday, 26 July 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link

I’m, this is the president of the United States we’re talking about here. I think we can be very confident that the president of the United States knows what a tariff is, and that even if he didn’t, at least one member of his circle of advisors/family/television hosts would quietly bring him up to speed, especially considering how central they are to his thinking on international trade and the economy.

Excuse me.

Haaaaaahahahahahahahhaahhahahahqggahqqaaaahahahahhaa

Karl Malone, Friday, 26 July 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/9CMc0aq.png

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 26 July 2019 18:30 (four years ago) link

teetotaler who eats expensive steaks burnt to a crisp and doused in ketchup has opinions about wine

circa1916, Friday, 26 July 2019 18:44 (four years ago) link

well you know what opinions are like, especially his

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 July 2019 18:48 (four years ago) link

I'm continually surprised that no one has slipped some hooch into his Mr. Pibb prior to a public appearance.

my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Friday, 26 July 2019 18:53 (four years ago) link

Days of Wine and Yams

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 26 July 2019 18:54 (four years ago) link

Charles Pierce is nobody's fool, so I wonder about the ripples this would make.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 July 2019 19:44 (four years ago) link

they haven't changed their calculus, they're slow-walking it methodically so that any impeachment efforts line up with the election and are backed by court rulings

Οὖτις, Friday, 26 July 2019 19:48 (four years ago) link

DIA analysts say North Korea may have produced 12 nuclear weapons since the first Trump-Kim summit. Wow. https://t.co/tn2mLZSoCU

— Josh Rogin (@joshrogin) July 26, 2019

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 26 July 2019 20:01 (four years ago) link

ha.

Carisis LaVerted (m bison), Friday, 26 July 2019 20:05 (four years ago) link

Why on earth would they not have done that? I'm sure their ICBM program has been very busy analyzing the data they got from all those test launches and designing and building new prototypes, too.

After all, they never made any specific promises not to do that and the US has done little more than demand that they stop, without offering any concessions in return, but instead making empty threats that could only be fulfilled by causing a completely pointless global catastrophe.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 26 July 2019 20:08 (four years ago) link

aimless, do you know anything about love? trump has fallen in love. he received a letter, and he sent a letter, and now he and Kim are in love. love isn't about numbers or machiavellian or incentives or motives or politics. love is not "trust and verify". love is just trust. also all that news is fake, NK hasn't made any weapons

Karl Malone, Friday, 26 July 2019 20:12 (four years ago) link

i'm voting for trump now btw

Karl Malone, Friday, 26 July 2019 20:13 (four years ago) link

Anybody else reading The Great Successor: The Divinely Perfect Destiny of Brilliant Comrade Kim Jong Un? Despite its snarky title, it's a really well researched and interesting book.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 26 July 2019 20:17 (four years ago) link

somwhat buried in a request for docs but: "House Democrats are investigating whether to impeach President Trump, according to a Friday petition for a D.C. federal judge to release grand jury information from the investigation of former special counsel Robert Mueller.

“This Committee is conducting an investigation to determine whether to recommend articles of impeachment,” the filing reads.

House Judiciary Committee Chair Jerry Nadler (D-NY) sent the petition for a tailored array of information from the Mueller investigation to D.C. chief judge Beryl Howell, who will decide whether to release the protected material to Congress."

akm, Friday, 26 July 2019 20:34 (four years ago) link

"A word you don't hear too much is the word 'England,'" Trump says while touting the benefits of Brexit.

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) July 26, 2019

mookieproof, Friday, 26 July 2019 20:54 (four years ago) link

somwhat buried in a request for docs but: "House Democrats are investigating whether to impeach President Trump, according to a Friday petition for a D.C. federal judge to release grand jury information from the investigation of former special counsel Robert Mueller.

“This Committee is conducting an investigation to determine whether to recommend articles of impeachment,” the filing reads.

House Judiciary Committee Chair Jerry Nadler (D-NY) sent the petition for a tailored array of information from the Mueller investigation to D.C. chief judge Beryl Howell, who will decide whether to release the protected material to Congress."

― akm, Friday, July 26, 2019 4:34 PM (twenty-one minutes ago)

I posted this upthread but I'm glad TPM ran its own story.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 July 2019 20:57 (four years ago) link

Called it:

/By Thursday morning, the Turning Point spokesman said, the group had identified the staffer responsible for turning Leazott’s design into a trending topic. He called the incident a last-minute oversight, the result of a quick online search to find a second high-resolution photo of the presidential seal to place behind Trump. He said the mistake was “unacceptable.”

“We did let the individual go,” the spokesman said. “I don’t think it was malicious intent but nevertheless.”/


Wow. There needs to be an addendum to Hanlon’s Razor to remind me how unbelievably stupid stupid can be. Jesus.

El Tomboto, Friday, 26 July 2019 22:35 (four years ago) link

The next two paragraphs:

Leazott doesn’t buy it. He thinks whoever was responsible had to know exactly what they were looking for. He believes the person dug up the image he created and used it intentionally.

“That’s a load of crap,” he said in response to Turning Point’s explanation. “You have to look for this. There’s no way this was an accident is all I’m saying.”

Manfred Hemming-Hawing (WmC), Friday, 26 July 2019 22:49 (four years ago) link

So this SCOTUS ruling just removes the injunction?

Fuck Trump, cops, and the CBP (Neanderthal), Friday, 26 July 2019 22:56 (four years ago) link

The U.S. Supreme Court on Friday handed President Donald Trump a victory by letting his administration redirect $2.5 billion in money approved by Congress for the Pentagon to help build his promised wall along the U.S.-Mexico border even though lawmakers refused to provide funding.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-wall/u-s-supreme-court-lets-trump-use-disputed-funds-for-border-wall-idUSKCN1UL2S7

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 27 July 2019 03:47 (four years ago) link

wtf? the framers very clearly reserved to Congress the right to appropriate money for the purposes it instructed the executive branch to administer, so if this was resolved on Constitutional grounds, the SCOTUS screwed the pooch. But, knowing how craven Congress has been about delegating powers to the executive in the past 50 years or more, they probably put some shitty law on the books that authorizes presidents to fuck around with the budget pretty much any way they please.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 27 July 2019 03:52 (four years ago) link

what prevents trump from declaring another national emergency and taking another 5 billion from the pentagon (which i've heard has a budget of...multiple billions of dollars) in a few months, in perpetuity?

Karl Malone, Saturday, 27 July 2019 04:57 (four years ago) link

^^^hates freedom

mookieproof, Saturday, 27 July 2019 06:43 (four years ago) link

hating on Baltimore now

curmudgeon, Saturday, 27 July 2019 13:19 (four years ago) link

A good Twitter thread (about the Baltimore tweets, but also about how Trump's melted cheese brain "absorbs" "information"):

Trump's attack on Rep. Cummings is a straight recitation of a Fox segment. "Living conditions at the border are better than most areas in his district, the city lined with abandoned building and trash on the streets."

Left, Fox & Friends, 6:18 a.m.
Right, Trump, 7:14 a.m. pic.twitter.com/w5OniqHgW6

— Matthew Gertz (@MattGertz) July 27, 2019

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Saturday, 27 July 2019 14:04 (four years ago) link

I can’t believe you just said that about melted cheese

El Tomboto, Saturday, 27 July 2019 14:09 (four years ago) link

shameful lactose intolerance itt

another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 27 July 2019 14:37 (four years ago) link

so much for the lactose-tolerant left

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 27 July 2019 14:48 (four years ago) link

haha

mookieproof, Saturday, 27 July 2019 19:43 (four years ago) link

My immediate takeaway is that Eric Trump's playlist, however you may feel about its contents, betrays a curiosity far surpassing that of his father.

my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Saturday, 27 July 2019 20:46 (four years ago) link

Do you think Donald ever made a thing with his own hands (be it a restored Camaro or a crudely-rendered half-naked lady), or exhibited any interest in the process of doing so?

my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Saturday, 27 July 2019 20:48 (four years ago) link

Happy Saturday!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 27 July 2019 20:49 (four years ago) link

i would think a man with such short fingers would steer as far clear of handicrafts as possible

j., Saturday, 27 July 2019 20:50 (four years ago) link

I don't understand why this isn't getting more attention:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/07/why-were-moving-forward-impeachment/594931/

jaymc, Sunday, 28 July 2019 04:35 (four years ago) link

We have now filed a petition in court to obtain the grand-jury documents referenced in the special counsel’s report. In that filing, we have made clear that we will utilize our Article I powers to obtain the additional underlying evidence, as well as enforce subpoenas for key witness testimony, and broaden our investigations to include conflicts of interest and financial misconduct.

about fucking time

Karl Malone, Sunday, 28 July 2019 04:43 (four years ago) link

I don't understand why this isn't getting more attention

because our attention circuit-breakers have already flipped

and maggie haberman and chuck todd can only deal with what's directly in front of their faces

i know there's a cliche about losing cronkite, and that it's absolutely a different media era, but will no one of importance just come out and say what's obvious?

mookieproof, Sunday, 28 July 2019 05:11 (four years ago) link

We have now filed a petition in court to obtain the grand-jury documents referenced in the special counsel’s report. In that filing, we have made clear that we will utilize our Article I powers to obtain the additional underlying evidence, as well as enforce subpoenas for key witness testimony, and broaden our investigations to include conflicts of interest and financial misconduct.

about fucking time

― Karl Malone, Sunday, July 28, 2019 5:43 AM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I guess by their estimation they had to wait until Mueller had testified before they took further action.
Some stuff got confirmed in that hearing but probably very little to the mythical man in the street and certainly not to the mediated customer.
But this should already be underway and should have been from the moment that the Dems could use authority to do so.
Would just seem to add to the stereotype of them being utterly wishy washy not to have this ready to run as soon as they could and not put faith in the hero on a white horse that Mueller never saw himself as. & I really wonder what level of obligation he had to feel constrained by the DOJ ruling that came down the night before the testimony. Seeemed like something he could have just ignored as easily but he'd have to have the volition to do so.
& I'm kind of surprised that somebody who had put in the work of the last couple of years wouldn't feel a wish to elucidate his findings. But I'm not that familiar with Mueller beyond the last couple of years. Sounds like that might be contrary to his character unfortunately.

Stevolende, Sunday, 28 July 2019 10:33 (four years ago) link

Mueller strikes me as the type who has extremely sharply defined ideas of duty, right and wrong, which ideas include extreme deference to 'duly constituted authority', as it is constituted through laws, courts and legal opinions, or legally defined chains of command. All his actions have been above reproach, according to this strict, legalistic worldview, and absolutely no one's political interests were served by his investigation or report, which is an amazing feat akin to performing surgery on fleas.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 28 July 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link

Tuck Choad more like

SHANTY the golden fish portion (stevie), Sunday, 28 July 2019 22:06 (four years ago) link

great burn by...Al Sharpton??

"If Donald Trump really thinks I'm a con man, he'd nominate me for his cabinet. But he doesn't believe that" - Al Sharpton

— Politics1.com (@Politics1com) July 29, 2019

frogbs, Monday, 29 July 2019 15:08 (four years ago) link

i can think of at least one other reason that trump wouldn't nominate sharpton

another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 29 July 2019 15:10 (four years ago) link

lmao imagine literally any other elected official saying something like this

Just before signing the 9/11 victims compensation bill, Trump jokes with the first responders and their families that the stage may not hold all of them but that if it collapses they "are not falling very far" pic.twitter.com/h9qY3C7iHK

— Justin Baragona (@justinbaragona) July 29, 2019

frogbs, Monday, 29 July 2019 15:27 (four years ago) link

if the stage collapses i'm sure thousands of muslims will be celebrating in new jersey

another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 29 July 2019 15:33 (four years ago) link

toxic standard of shameless

During a signing ceremony for the 9/11 victim compensation fund bill, President Donald Trump — speaking to an audience filled with first responders — made reference his time “down there” at Ground Zero.

Speaking from the White House Rose Garden Monday morning, the president discussed his time at the site of the attacks. “I was down there also,” Trump said. “But I’m not considering myself a first responder. But I was down there. I spent a lot of time down there with you.”

This claim, however, has never been corroborated. And according to Snopes, Ground Zero was on lockdown by Sept. 15, and a government-issued ID badge was required to access the site.

https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-oddly-boasts-about-his-time-down-there-during-9-11-but-im-not-considering-myself-a-first-responder/

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 29 July 2019 16:09 (four years ago) link

by "down there" he means the financial district, and "with you" means he saw a lot of cops and firefighters as his car shuttled him through

untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 29 July 2019 16:16 (four years ago) link

So this new intel director

Fuck Trump, cops, and the CBP (Neanderthal), Monday, 29 July 2019 16:27 (four years ago) link

We're back to the craziness of Trump year one

Fuck Trump, cops, and the CBP (Neanderthal), Monday, 29 July 2019 16:28 (four years ago) link

it's been crazy the entire time, we've just acclimated (to a degree)

Karl Malone, Monday, 29 July 2019 16:39 (four years ago) link

Yeah, I probe the cyanide capsule implanted in my gums a little less frequently these days but I never forget that it's there.

my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Monday, 29 July 2019 16:48 (four years ago) link

Josh Gottheimer is getting a primary challenge, which is good 'cause he's a piece of shit (Problem Solvers Caucus, my ass).

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 29 July 2019 17:11 (four years ago) link

lmao imagine literally any other elected official saying something like this

Just before signing the 9/11 victims compensation bill, Trump jokes with the first responders and their families that the stage may not hold all of them but that if it collapses they "are not falling very far" pic.twitter.com/h9qY3C7iHK
— Justin Baragona (@justinbaragona) July 29, 2019
― frogbs, Monday, July 29, 2019 11:27 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I'm not watching the clip but my inclination is that this wasn't meant to be a joke, simply because I actually don't think Trump is clever enough to make a joke like this, as terrifyingly low of a bar as that is.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 29 July 2019 17:50 (four years ago) link

CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES, THIS IS MY LAST RESORT 🎶 https://t.co/AJI0fDRovw

— Papa Roach (@paparoach) July 29, 2019

frogbs, Monday, 29 July 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link

Man, when PAPA ROACH dunks on you...

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 29 July 2019 18:28 (four years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/s3eVhtbPLi

— Guy1749 (@guy1749) July 29, 2019

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 29 July 2019 19:41 (four years ago) link

at the risk of stating the obvious

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 July 2019 19:51 (four years ago) link

starting to think this dersh guy might be problematic tbh

another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 29 July 2019 19:59 (four years ago) link

Anyone made it through the New Yorker thing about him yet?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 29 July 2019 20:03 (four years ago) link

that seems highly cathartic

Karl Malone, Monday, 29 July 2019 20:25 (four years ago) link

i read the new yorker piece. what a shocker that an entitled douchebag turned people feeling uncomfortable about his horndogging into a crusade against “political correctness.”

maura, Monday, 29 July 2019 20:26 (four years ago) link

Cruz, dressed in a golf outfit, argued that Barack Obama built the cages in which migrants and children are being kept.

So...the one Obama thing they <don't> want to roll back?

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 29 July 2019 20:50 (four years ago) link

read the dersh story; he's a lot like trump, but without the %35 of americans who think he can do no wrong

mookieproof, Monday, 29 July 2019 23:02 (four years ago) link

https://www.yahoo.com/news/sen-rand-paul-offers-rep-105846766.html

"I'm not saying we forcibly send her anywhere," Paul said in an interview last week with Breitbart News, a conservative-leaning outlet. "I’m willing to contribute to buy her a ticket to go visit Somalia. I think she can look and maybe learn a little bit about the disaster that is Somalia."

The Kentucky Republican then criticized the East African country for having "no capitalism" or "God-given rights" under in a constitution. He said Omar "might come back and appreciate America more" after visiting Somalia.

An Omar spokesperson could not be reached for comment.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 02:14 (four years ago) link

god how great it must have felt to beat this dude's ass

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 03:01 (four years ago) link

I just spent five minutes on Doug Henwood's Twitter feed. He's not very bright, is he?

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 03:01 (four years ago) link

jfc Rand Paul let he who is not from fkn Kentucky cast the first somalisplain

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 03:14 (four years ago) link

xp tbf if I spend more than four minutes on anybody’s Twitter I usually come to that conclusion 🥁😐

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 03:21 (four years ago) link

The "not very bright" post or the "beat this dude's ass" post?

nickn, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 05:45 (four years ago) link

u mean compared to yr faves on The Corner, Alfred?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 06:48 (four years ago) link

Yes. Beware of middle aged white men with radio shows.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 10:40 (four years ago) link

love em to death, esp vs bloggers

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 11:08 (four years ago) link

Sharpton is a con man, so game recog game

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 11:45 (four years ago) link

stop the ride I want to get off

President Trump is proud to announce the nomination of National Security Adviser John Bolton for the 2020 Nobel Peace Prize for his tremendous efforts in bringing peace to Iran, Venezuela and Israel. @AmbJohnBolton @realDonaldTrump @NobelPrize pic.twitter.com/6aEjK7h0M5

— White House Press (@OfficialWHPress) July 28, 2019

frogbs, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 14:33 (four years ago) link

Tom Lehrer is still alive, what can he give up this time?

Arthur Lowe & Love (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 14:35 (four years ago) link

good luck to john, he deserves it

another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 14:39 (four years ago) link

wait a sec that's a parody account

god damnit it's so hard to tell these days

frogbs, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 14:41 (four years ago) link

i stand by my previous statement

another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 14:42 (four years ago) link

I could nominate Dr Morbius for the Nobel Peace Prize, probably stands as much of a chance as John Bolton.

L'assie (Euler), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 14:42 (four years ago) link

I think the distinction between truth and parody was obliterated some time ago, so your confusion is understandable.

my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 14:43 (four years ago) link

in a world where obama has a peace prize who are we to say that john bolton doesn't deserve one too

another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 14:51 (four years ago) link

When asked about a Washington Post columnist “calling Mitch McConnell a Russian asset,” the president replied “I think the Washington Post is a Russian asset.”

— Josh Dawsey (@jdawsey1) July 30, 2019

He's literally reduced to "I know you are but what am I" at this point.

He also claims to have received emails, calls and letters from people in Baltimore who support him, but of course none of the assembled reporters asked him to produce one of these letters.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 15:02 (four years ago) link

TBF it is illegal for the president to lie to his constituents so you just gotta trust the system.

my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 15:07 (four years ago) link

love my big senile president and also america's completely supine press corps

another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 15:07 (four years ago) link

good morning!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 15:08 (four years ago) link

TRUMP: "The African American community is so thankful. They've called me and they've said, 'finally somebody is telling the truth.'" pic.twitter.com/NTECr7MlGD

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) July 30, 2019

mookieproof, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 15:08 (four years ago) link

hello, it's me
the african-american
community

mookieproof, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link

First thing they teach you in j-school iirc is to open wide when the president unzips.

my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link

xp at bg we really need a poll for biggest sham of a nobel peace prize tbh

going to be really hard to beat kissinger

untuned mass damper (mh), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 15:10 (four years ago) link

xpost Also to never challenge the president when he claims to have received a call from an entire group of people or when he's perceived a facial expression someone made on the other end of the line or when he claims to have spent the evening chatting on the phone with a boat or a can of tuna.

my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 15:12 (four years ago) link

trump's skintone is particularly vivid today, really sets off the slopping tongue lolling around in his mouth as he bellows a handful of syllables at a time at the media

another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 15:12 (four years ago) link

kissinger's the obvious big beast of that poll but aung san suu kyi is looking pretty problematic in retrospect, i'm sure there's plenty of others

another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 15:14 (four years ago) link

one of his staffers called him and did the Donkey voice from Shrek

frogbs, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 15:14 (four years ago) link

so, regarding the ridiculous thing about Trump commenting on and signing printed versions of tweets..

a friend of mine used to work for a local free weekly publication and did a "12 places Donald Trump could go out to eat in our city if he runs for president" jokey article in 2012

he received an email message shortly after with a scanned image of the article he'd written, with "We'll see!" handwritten on it, signed by Trump

untuned mass damper (mh), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 15:41 (four years ago) link

The president’s remarks have been matched by strident rhetoric on the Chinese side. At a news conference on Monday, Hua Chunying, a spokeswoman for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, called the United States “capricious, arrogant and selfish” after the Trump administration challenged China’s claim to a special status for developing countries at the World Trade Organization.
“There is a catchphrase that got popular just recently in China: ‘Don’t do things like the U.S. does.’ I hope some people of the U.S. side can deeply reflect on it,” she said.


Trade wars are good and easy to win

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link

A catchphrase in the US that is catching on is “our president is the dumbest person in the entire universe”

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 17:42 (four years ago) link

a lot of people are saying it

rob, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 17:46 (four years ago) link

A heckler disrupted Pres. Trump's speech at Jamestown today.

The sign read “deport hate” and “reunite my family.” A third message said “go back to your corrupted home.” The man was led out of the speech site as some members of the crowd chanted “Trump, Trump, Trump.” pic.twitter.com/fO1QsHOkSm

— ABC 13 News - WSET (@ABC13News) July 30, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link

He's literally reduced to "I know you are but what am I" at this point.

At this point?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaVWRetR4jg

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 19:16 (four years ago) link

I know we're in hellworld and everything is normalized but even still, this is insane

Trump just retweeted a meme from @LYNNTHO06607841 (who?) calling the opposition party "THE TRUE ENEMIES OF AMERICA!" pic.twitter.com/fWEkSGhkPO

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) July 30, 2019

Holy shit. The account the president of the United States just retweeted (@LYNNTHO06607841) posted a meme 5 days ago accusing the Clintons of "torturing and sacrificing children" and then consuming their secretions. pic.twitter.com/ujmrhGb6QJ

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) July 30, 2019

frogbs, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 19:20 (four years ago) link

i can't believe that @LYNNTHO06607841 would post those lies

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 19:24 (four years ago) link

President Trump defends Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell from "Russian asset" charge: "Mitch McConnell is a man that knows less about Russia and Russian influence than even Donald Trump and I know nothing" pic.twitter.com/3ZWfxVmvJF

— CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) July 30, 2019

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 20:27 (four years ago) link

"I know nothing" - Donald Trump

jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 20:28 (four years ago) link

president klink

jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 20:28 (four years ago) link

Schultz, keep your Nazis straight.

nickn, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link

as Hitler said to Rohm

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 20:41 (four years ago) link

protestor in Jamestown has been ID'd

The protester is VA 86th delegate Ibraheem S. Samirah, who was elected this year. https://t.co/9JIHiOQQrT

— Charlie Gile (@CharlieGileNBC) July 30, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 20:52 (four years ago) link

lmao the Pizzagater that Trump retweeted has now been suspended

frogbs, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 21:40 (four years ago) link

Even Trump acknowledging there’s no strategy behind attacking Cummings, via pool: , "There’s no strategy, I have no strategy, there’s zero strategy…There’s no strategy, it’s very simple.”

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) July 30, 2019

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 23:39 (four years ago) link

ah, the ninth dimension

mookieproof, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 00:06 (four years ago) link

Oh, so he's a...racist?

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 00:18 (four years ago) link

The saddest/stupidest part is that journalists - including Haberman - will continue writing about his "strategy" until he wins re-election or the earth is swallowed by the sun, whichever comes first.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 00:22 (four years ago) link

It’s really strange when he accidentally tells the truth

frogbs, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 01:29 (four years ago) link

just speaking from (under) the hood

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 01:40 (four years ago) link

You love to see it

NEWS ... Texas GOP Rep. Mike Conaway is retiring after 15 years in Congress. This is the fifth retirement in two weeks.

— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) July 31, 2019


The GOP is losing some of its most well liked members. Roby. Mitchell. Conaway. Brooks. Olsen.

Retirements are again a problem for the House GOP

— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) July 31, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 01:48 (four years ago) link

Are people in the GOP retiring because they don't think they can change anything inside the party?
I'm assuming shrinking to fit the orthodoxy of Trump enabling if that is what is happening may also be shrinking the voting base to some degree.
Not great anyway, if it means that GOP progressively loses an ability to correct itself. Though whatever currently represents GOP probably thinks it's perfectly right already and the rest of the country needs to get in line with it.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 09:19 (four years ago) link

"Mitch McConnell is a man that knows less about Russia and Russian influence than even Donald Trump and I know nothing"

The art of the meal..y mouth

nashwan, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 10:23 (four years ago) link

I wish the phrase "people who like their health insurance" would fucking die. People who "like" their health insurance have Stockholm syndrome.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 13:17 (four years ago) link

If you take away their insurance, they die. Win-win!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 13:22 (four years ago) link

people like their doctors, not their insurers. I guess candidates are wary of promising that everyone would get to keep their doctor since we all remember Obama said that and it was the Great Lie that blots out the 10,000 lies Trump tells every single day.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 14:00 (four years ago) link

WOW! #Trump's prompter often contains phonetic spellings because he knows so little and is such a bad reader. Today, George Wythe was spelled "With" for him. He just pronounced the name of this historical figure correctly and then, inexplicably, read out the incorrect spelling. pic.twitter.com/Hss0WPUE4c

— KevinlyFather 🇺🇲🇨🇦🇲🇼🇸🇿 (@KevinlyFather) July 30, 2019

incredible names. incredible names.

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 14:13 (four years ago) link

people like their doctors, not their insurers.

I hate my doctor; she's a mean bitch who yells at me in a Romanian accent.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 14:20 (four years ago) link

dude

SHANTY the golden fish portion (stevie), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 14:21 (four years ago) link

We've got some pretty shitty doctors back home, and they usually expect a tip on top of everything else (speaking of which, we've got thousands of words for 'tip' in Romanian…). Can't you switch to a different one?

pomenitul, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 14:23 (four years ago) link

the arc of the ilx thread is long, but it bends towards tipping

another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 14:32 (four years ago) link

Bg you get the full 20% from for that one

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 14:35 (four years ago) link

now check out this ronaldinho bottle opener

another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 14:41 (four years ago) link

Can't you switch to a different one?

Inertia is a powerful force. Honestly, it's fine. I go in every 3-4 months, she tells me I'm soft and out of shape (which I know) and that I eat like shit (which I know) and asks me if I need any of my prescriptions refilled, and I give her $150 'cause she doesn't take my insurance.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 15:02 (four years ago) link

lol, then she doesn't sound like a bad doctor, just very un-American.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 15:07 (four years ago) link

I ditched my doctor after coming to him for 7 years and getting the same “you’re young, don’t worry about it” from him well into my 40s.

My doctor now is a millennial who will tell me exactly what she thinks is my ailment and what the treatment is, if any.

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 15:11 (four years ago) link

tide pods amirite

another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 15:13 (four years ago) link

She said I’m too old to be eating them

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 15:14 (four years ago) link

CNN’s Don Lemon, the dumbest man on television, insinuated last night while asking a debate “question” that I was a racist, when in fact I am “the least racist person in the world.” Perhaps someone should explain to Don that he is supposed to be neutral, unbiased & fair,.....

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 31, 2019


....or is he too dumb (stupid} to understand that. No wonder CNN’s ratings (MSNBC’s also) have gone down the tubes - and will stay there until they bring credibility back to the newsroom. Don’t hold your breath!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 31, 2019

"too dumb (stupid}" should def be part of the August thread title

frogbs, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 15:43 (four years ago) link

wait, CNN's and MSNBC's ratings are down?? I've never heard the President of the United States mention that!

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 15:58 (four years ago) link

If they'd been written by anyone but the least racist person in the world, I might've suggested that those tweets had the distinctive bouquet of racism about them.

my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 16:02 (four years ago) link

i want to know who he thinks is "the most racist person in the world"

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 16:10 (four years ago) link

Obama duh

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 16:10 (four years ago) link

and who is giving out all these cool titles ?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 16:11 (four years ago) link

dumb (stupid}

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 16:12 (four years ago) link

good choice for august thread imo

gbx, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 16:21 (four years ago) link

^^^^^^^^^

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 16:37 (four years ago) link

xp I'm more interested in who the *second* least racist person is

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 16:38 (four years ago) link

Trump's dad.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 16:38 (four years ago) link

when in fact I am “the least racist person in the world.”

sure do wish he would die!!

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 16:40 (four years ago) link

The least-racist indicator probably conforms exactly to GOP pecking order, with Jim Inhofe clocking in at #10 or something

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 16:46 (four years ago) link

Does trump call any caucasians racist or does he just reserve the term for other ethnicities?
Noticed that he used the term for both the members of the squad and Elijah Cummings.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 16:52 (four years ago) link

In related news, I'm sure glad Ronnie wasn't a racist!

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/07/ronald-reagans-racist-conversation-richard-nixon/595102/

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 16:53 (four years ago) link

He used it in the anti-speciesist sense, amirite?

pomenitul, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 16:59 (four years ago) link

it is "funny" how the ppl who complain that "racist" is an overused description NEVER call any living white person racist

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 16:59 (four years ago) link

arguably there were some white racists in the past, but obviously trump would be fully aware of that and wouldn't, you know, choose one of them as his favorite president

https://i.imgur.com/rro9MEN.jpg

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 17:03 (four years ago) link

if, hypothetically speaking, there were a racist in the White House, who would it choose as its fav ex-President hmmm

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 17:05 (four years ago) link

if you can get some kind of mental distance from this administration, it's kind of beautiful:

Jared Kushner’s family real estate firm owns thousands of apartments and townhomes in the Baltimore area, and some have been criticized for the same kind of disrepair and neglect that the president has accused local leaders of failing to address. Residents have complained about mold, bedbugs, leaks and, yes, mice — plenty of mice. And they say management appears in no hurry to fix the problems.

https://www.apnews.com/3b82dd98c56f45d4a97170c3f758cb84

rob, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 17:50 (four years ago) link

Well, naturally. The GOP plays an active role in creating/perpetuating the conditions they seek to denigrate.

my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 18:10 (four years ago) link

I know, but the hypocrisy is so pure and unadorned sometimes there's a poetry to it

rob, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 18:13 (four years ago) link

the gaslighting is constant. he only said that about Baltimore in order to draw attention to the awful conditions! He just wants to help! Every single person in Baltimore has personally called and thanked him!

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 18:32 (four years ago) link

"Not a lot of people know this, but Cal Ripkin said I work harder than he did. Much harder."

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 18:34 (four years ago) link

NEW: Two former top staffers to Mitch McConnell have lobbied Congress and Treasury on the development of a new Kentucky mill backed by Russian aluminum giant Rusal. McConnell's office won't say whether he's been lobbied by them directly.
w/@theodoricmeyer https://t.co/ENSRyXClqP

— Natasha Bertrand (@NatashaBertrand) July 31, 2019

so the plan is to just say moscow mitch until he legally changed his name to that right?

Carisis LaVerted (m bison), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 18:53 (four years ago) link

according to today's NYT story, the Moscow Mitch nickname is the first insult to get under his skin.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 18:56 (four years ago) link

we have opened the Ark

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:06 (four years ago) link

fuck yeah, let it flow forth through their eyeballs

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:10 (four years ago) link

what's wrong with being racy

mookieproof, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:13 (four years ago) link

nice

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:28 (four years ago) link

"no wonder the Fat Sleepy Washington National Cathedral is losing Members!!"

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:30 (four years ago) link

As faith leaders who serve at Washington National Cathedral ¬– the sacred space where America gathers at moments of national significance – we feel compelled to ask: After two years of President Trump’s words and actions, when will Americans have enough?

took them seven months to get around to posting their reply

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:43 (four years ago) link

We all figured that, given time, he would eventually become presidential. I mean, really, who's to say he still won't someday.

Apprentice Taintjazzler (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:49 (four years ago) link

Just hope this isn't what presidential comes to mean.
Really the most venal, like.
KIng of the heap etc etc

Stevolende, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:56 (four years ago) link

tbf if the president does something over a long enough period, it's presidential

untuned mass damper (mh), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:17 (four years ago) link

if the president does it, it’s not illegal presidential

Carisis LaVerted (m bison), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 20:19 (four years ago) link

Secretary Eeegad felt the need to address Baltimore

Housing Secretary Ben Carson, the sole African American Cabinet secretary, directly injected himself into President Donald Trump’s attacks on a black congressman, holding a press conference Wednesday in the Democrat’s district and comparing Baltimore to a cancer patient wearing a “nice suit.”

He said the city has serious problems, including buildings with mold, lead and rodent infestation, which can cause serious health problems in children.

“You know, it’s sort of like if you have a patient who has cancer,” Carson said of Baltimore. “You can dress them up and put a nice suit on them, and you can try to ignore it. But that cancer is going to have a devastating effect. You have to be willing to address that issue if you’re ever going to solve it.”

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ben-carson-injects-trumps-feud-dems-baltimore-press/story?id=64679253&cid=clicksource_4380645_null_hero_hed

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 21:21 (four years ago) link

The Department of Housing and Urban Development is the principal Federal agency responsible for programs concerned with the Nation's housing needs, fair housing opportunities, and improvement and development of the Nation's communities.

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 21:39 (four years ago) link

first Ben has heard this

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 21:42 (four years ago) link

I've been thinking lately, as I've noticed a slight but undeniable decline in general effort and quality of work product at my job over the last couple of years (and I handle a lot of stuff coming from across the country and outside of our company so I feel like my assessment is based upon a decent sample size), that one approach to those who are still on the fence (perhaps because they don't think Trump-qua-Trump is awful enough to justify voting for the other team) is to ask them to consider the effect that another four years of his influence may have upon those people in your life upon whom your cush existence depends and who are maybe right on the tipping point of saying 'y'know, what's the worst that could happen if, like Teflon Don, I just stop trying?' If the ill-effects of his existence on other communities do absolutely nothing to tug at the cavity where your heart should be, consider how personally inconvenienced you will be as people stop giving a shit en masse. Just as he's reshaping the presidency, so too is he reshaping the populace to some extent. A country filled with iterations of Trump-lite benefits precisely no one.

Apprentice Taintjazzler (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 21:45 (four years ago) link

Good post.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 21:51 (four years ago) link


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