thread of mandy (2018), melted psychedelic drone directed by panos cosmatos

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I'm excited to see this, hopefully tomorrow.

jmm, Sunday, 7 October 2018 15:44 (ten months ago) link

really really want to see this on the big screen, but it's not playing anywhere even remotely nearby. i've petitioned the local arthouse but to no avail

gbx, Sunday, 7 October 2018 15:49 (ten months ago) link

It has its moments but no way should it have been two hours long.

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 7 October 2018 15:49 (ten months ago) link

yeah it should've been at least three

princess of hell (BradNelson), Sunday, 7 October 2018 16:01 (ten months ago) link

(the crawling pace is part of why it's great)

princess of hell (BradNelson), Sunday, 7 October 2018 16:04 (ten months ago) link

Loved this and love Cosmatos' seemingly obsessive control over all aspects of his mis en scène. Watched "Beyond The Black Rainbow" last night and indeed it never falters.
Those "Nu Cenobytes" were also creepy af.

An Uphill Battle For Legumes (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 7 October 2018 16:30 (ten months ago) link

Control over soundtrack as well is enormous.

An Uphill Battle For Legumes (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 7 October 2018 16:35 (ten months ago) link

my two favorite scenes were:

1) ATVs showing up to meet the van
2) mandy's face slowly morphing back and forth with jeremiah's - that was perfect

1-800-CALL-ATT (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 16:07 (ten months ago) link

I think I liked this? Practically every shot in the movie has stuck in my head, which is rare.

jmm, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 16:16 (ten months ago) link

a friend got me to watch this extreme nonsense without me knowing anything about it other than it starred n cage. I don't know the films it's apparently referencing, found quite a bit of it tedious and didn't really know what to make of it.

ogmor, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 17:28 (ten months ago) link

what films do you think it's referencing?

My Gig: The Thin Beast (sic), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:09 (ten months ago) link

both of his movies are more indebted to an era/genre of film (giallo-inflected lsd-damaged proto-slasher '70s horror intermingled with other contemporaneous genres) than they are referencing specific films afaict

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:38 (ten months ago) link

2) mandy's face slowly morphing back and forth with jeremiah's - that was perfect

― 1-800-CALL-ATT (Karl Malone), Tuesday, October 9, 2018 9:07 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah everyone i've talked to about this movie mentions how amazing this scene is

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:41 (ten months ago) link

I was told there was a hellraiser reference? I think I would give this another go

ogmor, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:41 (ten months ago) link

the dudes on the bikes resemble cenobytes that is true

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:43 (ten months ago) link

a lot of movies try to recreate the psychedelic experience but that was one of the most realistic, true-to-life trippy things i've ever seen on film

1-800-CALL-ATT (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:44 (ten months ago) link

the face morphing, that is

1-800-CALL-ATT (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:44 (ten months ago) link

otm

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:45 (ten months ago) link

i've had this movie in my head for almost a week now

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:46 (ten months ago) link

it made me so happy that anyone would make something like this

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:47 (ten months ago) link

I kinda wish they'd kept Mandy in the movie and not done a revenge plot. She was really good.

It's amazing how many different faces Andrea Riseborough is able to adopt.

jmm, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:50 (ten months ago) link

i know a lot of ppl who share that opinion and i don't disagree at all, but i also love that the movie kinda literally curdles as soon as she dies, like it can't keep itself together so it just goes straight into death drive mode. quoting simon from the nic cage thread

Mandy (the character) was easily the most fleshed-out person in the entire movie - we get to know her tastes, a bit of her work, a bit about her past, and a lot about her personality from how she handles Jeremiah. so when she dies it feels like a real loss that alters the fabric of reality, not just a cheap bit of character motivation - so much so that all that's left for Red is revenge-movie, horror, and fantasy tropes to process his grief (see also the animated sequences).

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:57 (ten months ago) link

I also thought the thing intermittently tedious and it should've been 70 minutes tops.

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 19:00 (ten months ago) link

we know

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 19:05 (ten months ago) link

there's only 70 minutes worth of things happening, but the movie is not about things happening

My Gig: The Thin Beast (sic), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 19:09 (ten months ago) link

I will see this cuz this guy's visual sense is incredible, but sounds like he hasn't quite evolved much from the pacing/plotting problems in Beyond the Black Rainbow

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 19:12 (ten months ago) link

the movie is obviously about jung's red book according to taylorholmes.com
https://taylorholmes.com/2018/09/16/the-movie-mandys-beginning-middle-and-ending-decoded/

1-800-CALL-ATT (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 19:14 (ten months ago) link

pacing/plotting problems

this is style, imo, but yeah this movie is only marginally less slow than black rainbow (but i've also found that ppl who find black rainbow tedious can think this one's a real thrill ride, who can say)

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 19:15 (ten months ago) link

i argue that the movie is also about setting up a scenario that involves a chainsaw battle

1-800-CALL-ATT (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 19:15 (ten months ago) link

re: pacing, i watched Mandy a day after watching The Sentinel for the first time, and it seemed to fly by

1-800-CALL-ATT (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 19:16 (ten months ago) link

chainsaw vs. extended chainsaw was when i gave myself over to the second half of this movie completely

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 19:16 (ten months ago) link

if I wasn't clear on the other thread, my problem with Black Rainbow wasn't with how slow it was as much as it was that the film retained that glacial pace even when all the tension and dread had already been leached out of the story - ie, everything that happens after she escapes the compound. The ending is one of the stupidest deus ex machina copouts I've ever seen, and he dragged it way the fuck out. At that point the pacing worked against the film.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 19:19 (ten months ago) link

you might like this one a lot more then

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 19:21 (ten months ago) link

i also don't really know how the ending of black rainbow is a deus ex machina but i'll take your word for it. i find that movie's gradual transformation from a moody '70s cronenbergian body horror thing into a traditional slasher extremely charming

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 19:23 (ten months ago) link

which, mandy does a similar thing: it pretty fearlessly goes wherever it's going to go

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 19:29 (ten months ago) link

I preferred Beyond the Black Rainbow, which I know is bizarre.

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 19:44 (ten months ago) link

i also don't really know how the ending of black rainbow is a deus ex machina but i'll take your word for it

SPOILIDAD

the central conflict is resolved by the villain *tripping on a fucking rock and braining himself* iirc

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 19:47 (ten months ago) link

yeah he does that bc the protagonist is psychic

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 19:50 (ten months ago) link

if all she had to do was make him trip on a rock why did she spend all that time running away

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 19:51 (ten months ago) link

i mean, she freezes him in place and the moment he tries to break out of her control he dies in an embarrassing and dumb way, which i think is a fitting end for an acid-melted entitled male monster

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 19:53 (ten months ago) link

but the particular path mandy takes is more satisfying/cathartic and less anticlimactic than the end of black rainbow so again i'm pretty certain you'll like it more

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 19:54 (ten months ago) link

I'm guessing if I don't like gore/brutality Black Rainbow is a better choice?

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 20:12 (ten months ago) link

hard to say, i remember the deaths in black rainbow all being pretty gross in one way or another

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 20:20 (ten months ago) link

splitting heads hairs imo

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 20:21 (ten months ago) link

you're either into his super slow mutated sense of pacing or not tbh, it's not really more complicated than that

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 20:35 (ten months ago) link

The slowness of Mandy wasn't a problem. It does have a peculiar way of leaving in slack moments which most movies would cut, and uses tons of slow fades where most movies would have a hard cut. This worked really well in the creeping ambience of the first half. The slightly more tedious moments for me were the less visually compelling ones, like the visit to the pharmacist in the radio tower.

jmm, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 20:45 (ten months ago) link

That felt like a nod to the eye clinic in Blade Runner to me. But it didn't quite pull off the febrile deranged feeling he was clearly shooting for.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 23:30 (ten months ago) link

pls someone let Cosmatos take over on the new Dune movies

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 23:41 (ten months ago) link

this was super agonizing to watch, very few parts i enjoyed (such as chainsaw battle), would not do it again

forensic plumber (harbl), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 00:37 (ten months ago) link

did you go to the cinema though

My Gig: The Thin Beast (sic), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 01:09 (ten months ago) link

i've seen it twice now, once in cinema and once not in cinema, and i don't like going to the theatre but i'd argue it's kinda necessary for that movie

vote no on ilxit (Will M.), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 03:15 (ten months ago) link

Still waiting with increasing irritation for literally any theater in the sixth-largest city in the United States to get this. We had one host the one-night premiere, which I blew off for something else since the same email said "opening September 14," but since then the only option has been a 90-minute round trip to Bethlehem, PA.

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 15:33 (ten months ago) link

after being extended a week here, it's being brought back tomorrow after a week off: get a cheap flight to Seattle, I'll go see it again.

My Gig: The Thin Beast (sic), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 17:40 (ten months ago) link

hasn't been mentioned yet, i don't think, but the soundtrack rules. the last work of Jóhann Jóhannsson. i especially liked the black metal snippets, like when Red is going down the tunnel toward Jeremiah.

1-800-CALL-ATT (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 17:47 (ten months ago) link

was mentioned in other threads' discussion before Brad sensibly split this one off

My Gig: The Thin Beast (sic), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 18:07 (ten months ago) link

"Amulet of the Weeping Maze" is song of the year.

jmm, Wednesday, 10 October 2018 21:19 (ten months ago) link

yes i saw it in the cinema, if this was on a tv i would have just turned it off lol

forensic plumber (harbl), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 23:06 (ten months ago) link

Oh yeah, there's a song from Red and the character's name is Red. I understand this movie now.

jmm, Thursday, 11 October 2018 14:41 (ten months ago) link

since then the only option has been a 90-minute round trip to Bethlehem, PA

what rough beast, its hours come round at last, &c &c

hey, nifty clam! (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:05 (ten months ago) link

did not enjoy "beyond the black rainbow", but i was going to take a shot on this

sadly looks like tonight will be the last showing here, in theory i could drive to LA but it's only showing at midnight there. does that mean it's not doing so well?

the late great, Friday, 12 October 2018 03:58 (ten months ago) link

the original release was one night only, so it's been doing great

My Gig: The Thin Beast (sic), Friday, 12 October 2018 07:53 (ten months ago) link

Has been brought back to the AFI Silver for at least one more week; have a ticket for tonight.

Accattony! Accattoni! Accattoné! (j.lu), Friday, 12 October 2018 13:57 (ten months ago) link

well i rented it on itunes and - it was great!!

the late great, Friday, 12 October 2018 14:40 (ten months ago) link

RLJ Entertainment, known for releasing genre movies ("Brawl in Cell Block 99," "Bone Tomahawk") and has handled movies starring Cage in the past ("Rage," "Dog Eat Dog," "Pay the Ghost"), moved forward with the usual game plan for "Mandy."

They released it in 75 theaters its first week, and had Cosmatos, Cage, and costar Linus Roache show up for live Q&As following some special Thursday-night screenings before its opening weekend, the hope being that exposure and the 94% Rotten Tomatoes score the movie has would bring in the audiences that a limited marketing budget a day-and-date movie can't.

And boy did it work.

And then something unusual happened: Instead of people ordering the movie on VOD, they took to social media and demanded a wider release so that "Mandy" could open at a theater near them.

https://www.businessinsider.com/surprise-success-of-nicolas-cage-movie-mandy-causes-shift-in-theater-release-strategy-2018-10

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 12 October 2018 16:45 (ten months ago) link

BRISTOL, Tenn. – A man who police say was run over with a lawn mower while trying to kill his son with a chain saw has had to have his leg amputated.

violent incidents that aren't in Mandy

1-800-CALL-ATT (Karl Malone), Saturday, 13 October 2018 21:55 (ten months ago) link

"pls someone let Cosmatos take over on the new Dune movies"

yesss

akm, Sunday, 14 October 2018 16:49 (ten months ago) link

i think this is my favorite movie of the year. is it insane to hope that it gets oscar consideration? cage, Riseborough, director, cinematographer....all deserve some recognition.

akm, Sunday, 14 October 2018 19:13 (ten months ago) link

also i like to think of the two blonde cult members as 'slack jawed yokel 1 and slack jawed yokel 2'

akm, Sunday, 14 October 2018 19:13 (ten months ago) link

"pls someone let Cosmatos take over on the new Dune movies"

yesss


lol I liked this movie but no thanks

circa1916, Sunday, 14 October 2018 22:48 (ten months ago) link

Yeah I can see the result being interesting, but Cosmatos’ style works best on a smaller scale IMO. Plus we already have the Lynch Dune.

latebloomer, Sunday, 14 October 2018 23:28 (ten months ago) link

Peter Travers of Rolling Stone calls Mandy 'a hoot, a real old-fashioned good-timey romp! See it with your best gal's ma!'

Kinda feel like there's a stain on my soul now that I can never fully scour away. Fuckin' evil. Deeply admire the commitment to pulling zero punches. Not sure I ever need to see it again. Fairly sure I will nonetheless see it again soon.

Extra Shprankles (Old Lunch), Monday, 15 October 2018 01:51 (ten months ago) link

(I joked that Cosmatos wanted to drop an isolated slice of cinema verite into the proceedings and asked Cage to go through his usual morning bathroom routine while the cameras rolled.)

Extra Shprankles (Old Lunch), Monday, 15 October 2018 01:55 (ten months ago) link

Also: looking for recommendations of other films that exude unrelenting cosmic darkness (Possession is as far as I've gotten thus far).

Extra Shprankles (Old Lunch), Monday, 15 October 2018 01:57 (ten months ago) link

I'd say THE WITCH is pretty good at that

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 15 October 2018 02:05 (ten months ago) link

I’ll throw in my usual recommendation of The Lords Of Salem.

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 15 October 2018 02:54 (ten months ago) link

I also recommend STARRY EYES.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 15 October 2018 02:58 (ten months ago) link

I must be drawn to cosmic darkness as I've seen all three! It occurred while watching that it reminded me of nothing quite so much as Twin Peaks: The Return.

Introduced my Mandy crew to Outer Space sometime just before we watched the former. You could say it was a day for feel-good cinema, I suppose.

Extra Shprankles (Old Lunch), Monday, 15 October 2018 10:30 (ten months ago) link

the pacing is certainly TP:Return-esque.

akm, Monday, 15 October 2018 13:19 (ten months ago) link

Bits of this kept reminding me of Apocalypse Now. Don't ask me to justify that comparison.

jmm, Monday, 15 October 2018 13:31 (ten months ago) link

Are you referring to the nightmare quest elements of both movies, or the way Nicolas Cage long ago went Marlon Brando-scale batshit crazy?

Accattony! Accattoni! Accattoné! (j.lu), Monday, 15 October 2018 14:03 (ten months ago) link

starry eyes is imo extremely flawed and very traumatic but a real ride

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 15 October 2018 14:57 (ten months ago) link

"A Dark Song" is a good recent bonkers occult horror film. Not sure about "cosmic".

An Uphill Battle For Legumes (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 15 October 2018 15:02 (ten months ago) link

can I just

can

can I

\m/ \m/

imago, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 14:20 (ten months ago) link

can’t stop thinking about cage’s totally scraped-out stare at the end of this film, which might be the peak of his craft for me

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 15:31 (ten months ago) link

Seriously. That shot burned itself onto my retinas.

Extra Shprankles (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 15:42 (ten months ago) link

ah fuck brad, i just read the spoiler about mandy and i havent even seen this...shit

Ross, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 15:44 (ten months ago) link

welcome to the spoiler-filled thread about mandy ross

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 15:48 (ten months ago) link

I'm not sure that it's much of a spoiler. It's advertised as a revenge movie.

jmm, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 15:50 (ten months ago) link

Yeah, I was trying to explain to someone that even a spoiler-laden description of the basic plot wouldn't really tell you much and certainly wouldn't prepare you for the experience.

Extra Shprankles (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:00 (ten months ago) link

yeah it's completely spoiler-proof imho

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:04 (ten months ago) link

no one in this thread at least has spoiled the most important part of the movie, which rhymes with “header cobblin’”

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:07 (ten months ago) link

lol

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:08 (ten months ago) link

Yeah, it's perhaps worth noting that for such an oppressively dark movie, there are more than a few lols to be had.

Extra Shprankles (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:16 (ten months ago) link

Also, 'header cobblin' scene was directed by Caspar Kelly (of Too Many Cooks fame)!

Extra Shprankles (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:18 (ten months ago) link

Also also, while I thought that scene was hilarious if wildly incongruent at first blush, upon reflection it seems to perfectly reflect the way that even goofy and innocuous stuff can feel absurd and horrifying in the wake of tragedy.

Extra Shprankles (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:30 (ten months ago) link

yep kind of a brutal “life goes on” moment for me

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:34 (ten months ago) link

"shhrh gobbin..."

jmm, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:34 (ten months ago) link

I'm probably seeing this again tomorrow. It feels like a movie that may play differently on second viewing.

jmm, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:37 (ten months ago) link

no one in this thread at least has spoiled the most important part of the movie, which rhymes with “header cobblin’”

― princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:07 (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes

imago, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 22:52 (ten months ago) link

or idk the tiger roar was maybe the best bit?

the entire movie was an invitation to throw horns

imago, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 22:55 (ten months ago) link

ugh, the nearest theater showing this is a five hour drive and a time zone away, fuck

WmC, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 22:59 (ten months ago) link

Well this was quite something.

Like someone reaching into my head and pulling out a load of things I love - Kubrick, Lynch, Park Chan Wook, P.T. Anderson, the Duffer Brothers, Jodorowsky, Alan Moore, Sam Rami, the Wickerman, Werner Herzog, Wheatley/Jump, Gaspar Noë, Troma, horrible Asian gore movies, ridiculous 80s slasher films etc- then mashing them all up with a rusty spoon before shoving them back into my head and stapling my scalp back shut

during the first part I couldn't work out if I plain loved it or whether it was standing on the shoulders of giants. did I like it on its own terms or more because it reminded me of so many other things I already love?

It was particularly easy to ponder this during some of the longer, more drawn-out scenes. No it's not so much a matter of pace exactly - I like the speed at which it unfolded- , but the propensity to linger for a bit too long on less interesting moments made my wonder on occasion.

I'm still not sure what I made of all this but by God did I stop caring by the second half.

Agree that Mandy the character could have been in it longer, or they could have at least put her on the poster - she was excellent whereas Cage is admittedly perfect as this sort of shell of a character

anyway, I was shell-shocked.its been a while since a film has had quite that impact, so hats off

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 23:21 (ten months ago) link

I took the "header cobblin'" bit as a marker of the times, along with the Ronald Reagan soundbite we get early in the movie. (And I would love to unpack THAT, but spoilers?)

Accattony! Accattoni! Accattoné! (j.lu), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 23:38 (ten months ago) link

the same reagan soundbite appears in black rainbow iirc

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 23:54 (ten months ago) link

both films seem to document a real soul-deadening transition from the ‘70s to the ‘80s

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 23:55 (ten months ago) link

Agree that Mandy the character could have been in it longer, or they could have at least put her on the poster

they did

https://s8.postimg.cc/gcfewvcet/mandyposter.jpg

My Gig: The Thin Beast (sic), Thursday, 18 October 2018 00:44 (nine months ago) link

Took me half a week to go from kind of never wanting to see it again (in the best sense possible) to kind of desperately wanting to see it again (like right now).

Extra Shprankles (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 October 2018 02:31 (nine months ago) link

xp the poster I saw is just a close up of Cage's face caked in blood

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Thursday, 18 October 2018 12:01 (nine months ago) link

SPOILER, KINDA BUT CAN I JUST

'YoU HavE a DEatH wIsH'
'Yeah but I really don't wanna talk about that'

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Thursday, 18 October 2018 20:44 (nine months ago) link

saw this in a theater again last night

god i love this movie

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 22 October 2018 17:55 (nine months ago) link

the scene of cage grieving in the bathroom got identical audience reactions between both crowds i saw it with: laughter turning into uncomfortable laughter then finally decaying into (what i assume is) stunned silence

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 22 October 2018 17:56 (nine months ago) link

shouts out to the dude i saw headbanging in his seat when the "mandy" titlecard appeared

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 22 October 2018 17:57 (nine months ago) link

might go see this again tomorrow with a new bunch of ppl

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 22 October 2018 17:59 (nine months ago) link

shouts out to the dude i saw headbanging in his seat when the "mandy" titlecard appeared

― princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 22 October 2018 17:57 (forty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think this is the moment i threw horns

imago, Monday, 22 October 2018 18:47 (nine months ago) link

I think I need to see this again too

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Monday, 22 October 2018 20:34 (nine months ago) link

we just saw this - for me, again - and

"Amulet of the Weeping Maze" is song of the year.

― jmm, Wednesday, 10 October 2018 21:19 (two weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

...i mean...yeah.

also, this time around i decided that mandy probably did kill a starling and didn't want to admit it

imago, Thursday, 25 October 2018 23:19 (nine months ago) link

There's a "mac and cheese"-accompanied Halloween screening happening here next week. Can't recall another movie attaining cult-classic status (complete with novelty screenings) this fast.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 25 October 2018 23:27 (nine months ago) link

really, there should be jars of acid mayo as well

imago, Thursday, 25 October 2018 23:28 (nine months ago) link

normally i am extremely allergic to putting scores on my year-end lists but this one's making it. i even bought a copy! the liner notes panos wrote for jóhann are really lovely :(

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 26 October 2018 00:03 (nine months ago) link

johansson is close to being mvp of this

imago, Friday, 26 October 2018 00:11 (nine months ago) link

absolutely. when i see the thread pop up on site new answers, his soundtrack immediately pops into my mind. menacing drone + the color RED

the fleeking of america (Karl Malone), Friday, 26 October 2018 00:13 (nine months ago) link

also, this time around i decided that mandy probably did kill a starling and didn't want to admit it

Do you think this monologue was meant to echo Silence of the Lambs? (Clarice STARLING...)

jmm, Friday, 26 October 2018 00:19 (nine months ago) link

have you all heard track 2 of jeremiah sand's "album"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxu-ZpJsAQE

Karl Malone, Friday, 26 October 2018 00:22 (nine months ago) link

this movie is perfect. on second viewing noticed the boxes of cheddar goblin in the crossbow dealer's trailer.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 26 October 2018 05:43 (nine months ago) link

saw this last night, it frikkin owns

gbx, Friday, 26 October 2018 18:08 (nine months ago) link

seeing this again tonight, I think, as the local theater has in fact arranged a showing

gbx, Saturday, 27 October 2018 23:13 (nine months ago) link

I guess I missed all screenings.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 28 October 2018 00:50 (nine months ago) link

didn't read the whole thread but i saw this last night and i loved it
Mandy herself was the highlight and I loved the scenes of their dull domestic life before everything went haywire
the soundtrack elevated everything, like a fancy beer can make a sandwich taste better

i did read enough to see this and i agree

Mandy (the character) was easily the most fleshed-out person in the entire movie - we get to know her tastes, a bit of her work, a bit about her past, and a lot about her personality from how she handles Jeremiah. so when she dies it feels like a real loss that alters the fabric of reality, not just a cheap bit of character motivation - so much so that all that's left for Red is revenge-movie, horror, and fantasy tropes to process his grief (see also the animated sequences).

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 29 October 2018 13:08 (nine months ago) link

also i really want a mandy tshirt

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 29 October 2018 13:09 (nine months ago) link

Do you think this monologue was meant to echo Silence of the Lambs? (Clarice STARLING...)

I thought Jeremiah was styled to recall Buffalo Bill (especially after Mandy rejected him), so you may be right.

And I'm a little envious of those of you who were at screenings with appreciative audiences. The audience at my screening was so silent that when I laughed I thought I'd committed a faux pas.

Accattony! Accattoni! Accattoné! (j.lu), Monday, 29 October 2018 14:56 (nine months ago) link

Among the elements which recalled Lynch's work was most definitely the discordant clash of tones, those moments which are simultaneously horrifying and hilarious and the viewer is left feeling uncertain about how they should respond to what they're experiencing in a given moment. It's understandable that the same scene might induce laughter and uncomfortable silence from different people/audiences.

a butt, at which the shaft of ridicule is daily glanced (Old Lunch), Monday, 29 October 2018 15:05 (nine months ago) link

I mean, the experience on the whole was oppressive as fuck and I was left feeling like I'd been dragged behind a truck for two hours but I definitely cracked up a few times.

a butt, at which the shaft of ridicule is daily glanced (Old Lunch), Monday, 29 October 2018 15:07 (nine months ago) link

i did not find it oppressive at all tbh
my partner and i both loled several times and mostly i found it engrossing

life has me feeling pretty low and this movie did not make it worse at all. i consider that a success! the soundtrack is really the thing that ties it together and makes it work imo.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 29 October 2018 15:08 (nine months ago) link

it's definitely got that Lynchian 'wake up laughing at something terrifying' vibe about it

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Monday, 29 October 2018 15:10 (nine months ago) link

one of the jeremiah acolytes looked sort of like buffalo bill to me (esp in profile) but i didn't consider it an allusion to SOTL, or even the starling thing.
really i don't enjoy hunting for references to other works when i watch a new one. i would rather just see if i can enjoy it at face value.
if the references pop out too strongly, i don't consider that a good thing. if they are hidden i think i like to let them remain so? idk

i liked it

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 29 October 2018 15:16 (nine months ago) link

there were a lotta lols in my theater, though mostly from the same few folks. also the same ppl that yelled "hellllll yeah" when the movie ended.

my fave was the weird gurning faces cage threw in the closing scenes in the car

gbx, Monday, 29 October 2018 15:16 (nine months ago) link

TIL what is gurn

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 29 October 2018 15:28 (nine months ago) link

Would GIS again

jmm, Monday, 29 October 2018 15:55 (nine months ago) link

gurning is the new bershon?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 29 October 2018 16:04 (nine months ago) link

i want to watch this again tbh
it's supposed to be on shudder any day now!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 29 October 2018 18:16 (nine months ago) link

you can rent it on amazon/itunes, too! (idk what shudder is)

gbx, Monday, 29 October 2018 18:19 (nine months ago) link

shudder is a horror streaming service, $4/mo, great selection, roku app sucks but whatever

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 29 October 2018 18:20 (nine months ago) link

oh! might have to look into that, feel like half of what i watch on netflix is horror anyway

gbx, Monday, 29 October 2018 18:21 (nine months ago) link

shudder is amazing and highly recommended

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 29 October 2018 18:23 (nine months ago) link

way way way way better selection than netflix, less crap imo
it's no filmstruck (RIP) but it is way better than netflix unless you need children's programming

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 29 October 2018 18:24 (nine months ago) link

there's a little square that says "COMING SOON" on top of the image of mandy on shudder and i guess it will be live within the next few days.
that would be nice.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 29 October 2018 18:25 (nine months ago) link

This was one of the most primal films i’ve ever seen. Jung comparisons otm.

I can’t even try to unpack the rest of it now but the scene where he forges a Dark Souls war blade has literally no lead up whatsoever but also ‘acid fried cenobite biker gang’ is the perfect lead up...

my opinionation (Hamildan), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 00:03 (nine months ago) link

I kinda feel other films might have had at least one line of dialogue earlier to set up that he has access to a forge, an interest in crafting weapons or something...

The fact that he wordlessly feels he has to craft his own weapon pulls this deep into some Joseph Cambell/Odysseus/Descent into the underworld headspace.

my opinionation (Hamildan), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 00:10 (nine months ago) link

I kinda feel other films might have had at least one line of dialogue earlier to set up that he has access to a forge, an interest in crafting weapons or something...

The fact that he wordlessly feels he has to craft his own weapon pulls this deep into some Joseph Cambell/Odysseus/Descent into the underworld headspace.

my opinionation (Hamildan), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 00:10 (nine months ago) link

also w/o real lead-up: apparently he has a past murky enough to require leaving his crossbow in the safe-keeping of an old guy in an trailer

gbx, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 00:25 (nine months ago) link

also that is the celtic frost "f"

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 00:34 (nine months ago) link

whoa

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 02:22 (nine months ago) link

i did not like this movie.

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 04:40 (nine months ago) link

I also took from the bathroom scene, that Red (& Mandy?) was a recovering Alcoholic and thats why the unlabeled hooch was hidden in a drawer in the bathroom. Red also declines a drink in the opening shot when they are leaving the forest.

So him hitting the moonshine was a return to the death wish, self destruction spiral that Mandy had saved him from...

my opinionation (Hamildan), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 11:11 (nine months ago) link

this movie would have been better if it held back on the silliness a bit. you know what scene im referring to

. (Michael B), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 11:33 (nine months ago) link

It may have seemed silly to you, but I can't say for sure that I won't attempt the MacGruber defense when Nic Cage inevitably comes to revenge kill me in my subterranean lair.

a butt, at which the shaft of ridicule is daily glanced (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 13:02 (nine months ago) link

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/BART-responds-to-man-on-train-who-pulled-out-two-13346973.php

best real-life Mandy callback ever!

akm, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 13:18 (nine months ago) link

this movie would have been better if it held back on the silliness a bit. you know what scene im referring to

― . (Michael B), Tuesday, October 30, 2018 11:33 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The whole thing you mean?

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 14:59 (nine months ago) link

just watched this under the worst possible circumstances - on an iphone, on a train, frequently interrupted by my daughter waking from sleep - and was still fucking mesmerised

la bébé du nom-nom (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:01 (nine months ago) link

hats off to brad for ‘melted psychedelic drone’ btw, perfect descrip

la bébé du nom-nom (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:02 (nine months ago) link

under the worst possible circumstances

best possible circumstances would be sitting in the woods at night, watching the entire film painted on a series of vans, being driven past you in a clearing

Sing The Mighty Beat (sic), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:05 (nine months ago) link

otm

la bébé du nom-nom (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:06 (nine months ago) link

I guess I missed all screenings.

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, October 28, 2018 1:50 AM (six days ago)

Bought the bluray which I did not expect to see so soon. Says it's a HMV/Fopp exclusive, no way that can be true.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 3 November 2018 09:56 (nine months ago) link

Blu Ray is... The VHS special edition sold out on day1.

Some going for £50 online.

my opinionation (Hamildan), Saturday, 3 November 2018 17:25 (nine months ago) link

I saw the VHS style edition but there were regular bluray editions too, which was what I got and it had a sticker about the exclusivity.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 3 November 2018 18:34 (nine months ago) link

Liked this, maybe it needed a little something more but the usage of Mandy's face was quite striking, the guy laughing with the chainsaw was hilarious and the scene in the club/venue was quite touching. The animated scenes could have been better. Hellraiser comparisons make sense but I'm also reminded of the bikers and colored lighting in Hobo With A Shotgun (which were some of the few things I liked about that film) but done much better. Julie Bell did Mandy's drawings and paintings, I havent heard about her in years, probably the biggest blast from the past in this film and one that hasnt kept the same fan following and doesnt have the same cred as King Crimson or even the metal influences. Maybe Panos is testing us with the percieved uncoolness of Motley Crue and Julie Bell?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 9 November 2018 23:40 (nine months ago) link

i had a dream i bought and wore a mandy wig

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 10 November 2018 15:01 (nine months ago) link

two weeks pass...

don't be negative

single bed mentality (||||||||), Saturday, 24 November 2018 19:13 (eight months ago) link

Loved it up till the Mandy title card. It then became a grief/revenge fantasy where time and space did not have to jibe, though not without its visual moments. Recommended for readers of reddit/iamverybadass.

Yelploaf, Saturday, 24 November 2018 19:43 (eight months ago) link

this'll appear on shudder in two days btw

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 16:26 (eight months ago) link

god i need to see this fuckin movie again asap

sign up for my waterless urinals webinar (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 16:31 (eight months ago) link

I think I'll do the free trial of Shudder so I can finally catch this.

WmC, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 17:23 (eight months ago) link

imo the idea that Cage's character is some badass that people will aspire to be like is short-circuited by the narrative choices. we get his bizarre weapon crafting in lieu of a "training for revenge" montage. he pops out fully-formed as something that seems like a second force of darkness that opposes the one that ruined his life and the surreal nature of the entire thing sticks it in a different category from a lot of "badass guy is unleashed" movies

mh, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 17:55 (eight months ago) link

100% otm, it’s way more surreal than yr traditional revenge movie

sign up for my waterless urinals webinar (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 18:02 (eight months ago) link

reminds me of the stereotype of youth where a typical young man may think "yeah, if I really worked at it and did the right things, I could totally be a professional mountain climber/marksman/athlete/whatever" only to reach an age one day where it must be acknowledged that, no, this will not come to pass

I don't think at any point in my life I thought I could, or would even want to, become whatever the hell happened to the guy in this movie

mh, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 18:15 (eight months ago) link

personally i still aspire to become a revenge-driven tripping maniac on a murdering spree in an alternate universe, i'm not willing to give that up just yet

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 18:34 (eight months ago) link

there’s a jar of mind-shatteringly powerful psychedelic mayo with your name on it somewhere out there, buddy - I believe it

sign up for my waterless urinals webinar (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 18:41 (eight months ago) link

psychedelic midlife crisis is the best midlife crisis

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 18:43 (eight months ago) link

it's not a crisis if it's a psychedelic journey

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 19:40 (eight months ago) link

i can't wait to go home and watch this for the fourth time

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 November 2018 18:27 (eight months ago) link

annoyed with myself for not picking up the blu-ray when I spotted it at a second-hand shop

resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 29 November 2018 18:27 (eight months ago) link

I recently put a clause in my will with instructions for my undertaker: 'plz make my face look like Nic Cage's face at the end of the 2018 film Mandy.'

you guys did not understance his stlye of english (Old Lunch), Thursday, 29 November 2018 18:32 (eight months ago) link

Lol how are used copies surfacing already

Forgot to post in here but I’m so glad I held off on streaming this, it looked like it was never gonna play here and then it got one showing on the biggest screen in the city. I fucking loved it but a lot of the audience didn’t; I have a feeling they were expecting hobo with a chainsaw

Pierrot with a thousand farces (wins), Thursday, 29 November 2018 18:34 (eight months ago) link

didn’t like this at all really

flopson, Thursday, 29 November 2018 21:56 (eight months ago) link

Of the deleted scenes, I think they should have kept the conversation with the sheriff.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 30 November 2018 19:38 (eight months ago) link

this movie would have been better if it held back on the silliness a bit.

You're a vicious snowflake.

Wegmüller Fruit Corner (Noel Emits), Saturday, 1 December 2018 12:28 (eight months ago) link

I finally watched this on Shudder and liked it a lot, even though it is not my normal fare. The surreal and disturbing visual and aural vibe throughout was uncompromising. Did not like the gore because I am getting squeamish in my old age.

Loved the scene where Nic Cage dips the tip of his finger into the jar with the psychedelic mayo and instantly trips his balls off when earlier the biker dudes were chugging jars of the stuff.

Also: Cheddar Goblin.

Andrew "Hit Dice" Clay (PBKR), Monday, 10 December 2018 12:42 (eight months ago) link

Couldn't handle this boring and annoying avalanche of iconographic signifiers. Bathroom scene, forging the sword, borrowing the gun from his pal...all these scenes are stupid sorry. Other audience members who probably have pizza tattoos were having a great time laughing and whooping at everything Nic Cage did or even "yeeeeeaaah Sabbath!" when Mandy was wearing that shirt. Once it became clear it was a revenge flick I bailed since another agonizingly slow hour of these bozos cheering on everyone being slaughtered one by one was too much to contemplate.

everything, Monday, 10 December 2018 18:20 (eight months ago) link

Other audience members who probably have pizza tattoos

solid projection

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 10 December 2018 18:23 (eight months ago) link

xpost You sound fun.

vocabulary is just a way to sound samrter than you actually are (Old Lunch), Monday, 10 December 2018 18:26 (eight months ago) link

starting to regret getting the little caesar’s logo tattooed under my left eye now

fans annoyed as emily atack screams over nick knowles' kumquat (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 10 December 2018 18:33 (eight months ago) link

It's sad that you should ever have cause to doubt such a heroic act.

vocabulary is just a way to sound samrter than you actually are (Old Lunch), Monday, 10 December 2018 18:41 (eight months ago) link

it’s gonna happen if i’m gonna get savagely called out like that :(

fans annoyed as emily atack screams over nick knowles' kumquat (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 10 December 2018 18:43 (eight months ago) link

Ready Slayer One

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 10 December 2018 18:53 (eight months ago) link

at least we've gotten past the bacon tattoos

mh, Monday, 10 December 2018 19:02 (eight months ago) link

(leans in) Please tell us more trenchant things about the half a movie you saw, everything. Please, do.

Still can't believe my dog ate my jumprope. (Old Lunch), Monday, 10 December 2018 19:21 (eight months ago) link

I sorta half-watched an hour or so of a Harry Potter the other night while I was making dinner. Everything I saw was so stupid that I wound up burning the chicken. Pssh. Gaw.

Still can't believe my dog ate my jumprope. (Old Lunch), Monday, 10 December 2018 19:25 (eight months ago) link

well, that is otm, tbf

fans annoyed as emily atack screams over nick knowles' kumquat (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 10 December 2018 19:25 (eight months ago) link

i watched part of titanic last week. leo is pretty good but can't help but think that some of ACTION or event would have helped to bring all the stories together. a tale of betrayal, romance, and a beautiful indestructible ship as the backdrop- it's all a good start, but can't help but feel that all that potential is squandered

Karl Malone, Monday, 10 December 2018 19:33 (eight months ago) link

where was the cheddar goblin of titanic?!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 10 December 2018 19:36 (eight months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/28IQpor.jpg

Karl Malone, Monday, 10 December 2018 19:41 (eight months ago) link

I saw this with a midnight audience over the weekend and apart from one excitable doofus jumping the gun on the CRAZY EVIL line like it's fucking Rocky Horror, people were good- none of that performative geek laughter that makes my blood boil at so many screenings like this, folks let the quiet parts land in dead silence, and there was no cheering for the Cheddar Goblin, likely because a lot of people were seeing it for the first time- it played in Philly for exactly one screening prior to this- and were still digesting what had just happened.

The two details that stuck out most to me on a second watch were Cage and demon biker #2's shared Muttley laugh-wheeze when the former has stabbed the latter through the neck, like they're sharing some private joke; and in the final car scene intercut with Cage and Mandy's first meeting, where she cries a very prominent single tear in the flashback (in the acid sense as well, I guess) footage of the party; I didn't notice that at all seeing this on a TV.

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:47 (eight months ago) link

good god sorry for all those em-dashes; I'm trying to write and keep a kitten from stealing my breakfast and it is taxing

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:48 (eight months ago) link

one excitable doofus jumping the gun on the CRAZY EVIL line
..that's a paddlin'

folks let the quiet parts land in dead silence
.. that's a paddlin'

there was no cheering for the Cheddar Goblin
oh you betcha, that's a paddlin'

my opinionation (Hamildan), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 09:30 (eight months ago) link

things that aren't mandy

Netflix marketing team: So for the poster, we were thinking-

Me: CAN YOU MAKE ME LOOK LIKE A ZOMBIE HUNTER pic.twitter.com/JxBCEdMCd4

— Taylor Swift (@taylorswift13) December 18, 2018

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 20:09 (seven months ago) link

Oh no, those second two were positives, at least to me! Like, there are clearly parts of the early going where the ambience is supposed to take over, and I appreciated the fact that the hooting stopped. Same for the Cheddar Goblin; I had to mute the phrase on Twitter because the distributors seemed so goddamned hellbent on making it a meme template even before lots of people had gotten the chance to even see Mandy. And the fact that the audience were actually reacting properly to The Thing That Happens Before Cheddar Goblin made me appreciate how carefully placed it is as a *tiny* break in the tension, and not just some WWWACKY SHIT they let the Too Many Cooks guy plop in the middle of the movie.

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 20:53 (seven months ago) link

in context it was just another piece of contextual info that made me realize that the world of the film was not quite the same as our world

cheddar goblin is a popular corporate mascot, so of course chainsaw fights seem reasonable

mh, Thursday, 20 December 2018 21:08 (seven months ago) link

four weeks pass...

seeing this again on sunday :D

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 January 2019 19:05 (seven months ago) link

http://www.brattlefilm.org/2019/01/18/mandy-5/

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 January 2019 19:06 (seven months ago) link

I love that theatre. I remember seeing Duck Soup and Pierrot le Fou there.

jmm, Thursday, 17 January 2019 19:14 (seven months ago) link

lol i saw this twice, is this your third brad

imago, Thursday, 17 January 2019 20:56 (seven months ago) link

yep third

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 21 January 2019 01:31 (six months ago) link

that was fuckin great

maura, Monday, 21 January 2019 05:33 (six months ago) link

very glad the audience was mostly not the giggly type

maura, Monday, 21 January 2019 05:36 (six months ago) link

two months pass...

really like Mandy

that song is awful

Dan S, Sunday, 14 April 2019 01:26 (four months ago) link

My friend came to town the other day wearing a Cheddar Goblin shirt. This is why we are friends.

Hangover Ape (Old Lunch), Sunday, 14 April 2019 01:33 (four months ago) link

two months pass...

uh i went into this knowing nothing except nic cage is in it and it's a revenge plot.

what did i just watch

just1n3, Thursday, 27 June 2019 09:20 (one month ago) link

a masterpiece iirc

big beautiful wario (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 27 June 2019 09:20 (one month ago) link

it's v much not the kind of movie i would normally watch but i was mesmerized

just1n3, Thursday, 27 June 2019 09:22 (one month ago) link

that's exactly the word i used to describe it upthread! it's got such a uniquely hypnotic vibe

big beautiful wario (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 27 June 2019 09:25 (one month ago) link

this got my number 1 vote in the film poll, it's completely insane but also the most heartbreaking thing ever

or something, Thursday, 27 June 2019 09:34 (one month ago) link

this got my number 2, but it was close, and my number 1 is also a mind-altering masterpiece

imago, Thursday, 27 June 2019 10:16 (one month ago) link

Just learned that Cage was initially meant to play Jeremiah Sand.

I Ate Those Food (Old Lunch), Thursday, 27 June 2019 12:18 (one month ago) link

I'm glad he didn't

or something, Thursday, 27 June 2019 18:05 (one month ago) link

it would have been a much more... i dunno what you’d call it, conventionally strange movie that way?

big beautiful wario (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 27 June 2019 18:31 (one month ago) link

imagine what we'd have gotten if he played the role of Mandy

mh, Thursday, 27 June 2019 20:03 (one month ago) link

really love the whole story about cage insisting that he play red

Well, when I first met with Panos, he told me he wanted me to play Jeremiah Sand, and I said, “Why?” And he said, “Well, I see him as the California Klaus Kinski.” And I said, “Well, I am the California Klaus Kinski, but I want to play Red.” ... I did not want to play Jeremiah Sand. I felt that I had gone through enough life experience. Not that I can’t work from the imagination, I normally do, but I had enough life experience contending the failure of my third marriage and still trying to recover from the loss of my father after many, many years. Still not just quite over it. As I look at these footnotes here from the talking points that coincide with Panos himself, that I … having had experiences with loss, certainly family loss, I was in step with that.

I felt I could play Red authentically and organically and put those feelings of loss in a productive place as opposed to a destructive place, and a constructive place. And so, that’s why I gravitated towards Red. I just felt that I could go after the cult and the demon bikers in a way that was in his world, but had some sort of sound of truth.

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 27 June 2019 20:31 (one month ago) link

that has added an awesome new dimension to this

imago, Thursday, 27 June 2019 20:32 (one month ago) link

btw i am seeing this in a theater again on saturday

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 27 June 2019 20:32 (one month ago) link

hyperbole ahead: god last october i was aboslutely in hell and i think this movie saved my life

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 27 June 2019 20:34 (one month ago) link

it's a movie about music, art, fiction and movies and how they save us, so its power to save was already coded in

imago, Thursday, 27 June 2019 20:36 (one month ago) link

hope ur in a better place now obv

imago, Thursday, 27 June 2019 20:42 (one month ago) link

Of all the indelible moments in the film, the bathroom scene is the one that has lodged itself most firmly in my brain. If for no other reason, I'm glad Cage portrayed Red so he could gift us with that moment.

I Ate Those Food (Old Lunch), Thursday, 27 June 2019 22:08 (one month ago) link

I think I can convince my wife to watch this as long as ilxors can confirm that no one's children are murdered in this movie (yes I know everybody is "somebody's* child but you know what I mean)

Οὖτις, Thursday, 27 June 2019 22:09 (one month ago) link

can confirm

imago, Thursday, 27 June 2019 22:10 (one month ago) link

the (i think) youngest character is spared death, even!

imago, Thursday, 27 June 2019 22:11 (one month ago) link

thx

it was between watching this tonight on my own or waiting til she's back in town in a couple days

Οὖτις, Thursday, 27 June 2019 22:13 (one month ago) link

I thought my gf was gonna hate this (she generally won't watch anything horror-ish with me) but she thought it was fantastic. Everyone I watched it with was just in kind of a speechless daze afterwards.

I Ate Those Food (Old Lunch), Thursday, 27 June 2019 22:18 (one month ago) link

my wife is down for the gore and the horror and trippy weirdness (she *loved* "A Field in England") but parent-losing-a-kid trauma is a bridge too far for her

Οὖτις, Thursday, 27 June 2019 22:25 (one month ago) link

nah she’s in for a treat

big beautiful wario (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 27 June 2019 22:26 (one month ago) link

Mandy is the best :)

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 28 June 2019 01:56 (one month ago) link

It's really great!

gbx, Friday, 28 June 2019 02:55 (one month ago) link

I didn't vote in the film poll because I didn't see enough 2018 films to make it worth anyone's while but if I had Mandy would've been my #1, no question.

I Ate Those Food (Old Lunch), Friday, 28 June 2019 03:10 (one month ago) link

came #5 in the film poll yesterday btw folks: I Just Wanted To Take Another Look At You - the 2018 ILX Film Poll Results Thread

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, 28 June 2019 21:06 (one month ago) link

this was prob the best time i've ever seen it, they cranked the volume at momi and it was almost uncomfortably loud and i was so high, waves of vibrations, total sensory overload

in the q&a aaron stewart-ahn referred to magic mike xxl as a masterpiece, my kind of person

american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 30 June 2019 06:54 (one month ago) link

I follow him on twitter! I can’t remember when I did so, but it was way before Mandy. I think he interacted with or knows s1ocki?

mh, Sunday, 30 June 2019 13:49 (one month ago) link

magic mike xxl is a fucking marvel

coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 30 June 2019 13:50 (one month ago) link

excited to fry my friends' brains w/ this today

Simon H., Sunday, 30 June 2019 14:03 (one month ago) link

also apparently the shared cinematic reference between stewart-ahn and panos for this film was cyborg

american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 30 June 2019 14:06 (one month ago) link

well this certainly delivered

in a funny way it felt like every scene was better than the one before it

Οὖτις, Monday, 1 July 2019 15:00 (one month ago) link

not untrue imo, it just keeps building in about fifteen different ways as it goes on

coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 July 2019 15:02 (one month ago) link

Friend introduces me to "panos"

Me after shaking his hand to friend: "panos cosmatos?"

In hindsight he could totally hear.

How not to be.

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 6 July 2019 08:51 (one month ago) link

so was it

mh, Saturday, 6 July 2019 14:33 (one month ago) link

Yes

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Sunday, 7 July 2019 09:25 (one month ago) link

I saw a midnight screening of Mandy last night. (Sadly underattended; The Room and Rocky Horror proved to be bigger draws. And I brought a flask to drink along with the bathroom scene.) What got me is that both Mandy and Midsommar culminate in triangular structures, built for ritual purposes. Was this a coincidence, or do such buildings commonly occur in vernacular architecture?

Also, between these two movies I'll never look at folkloric embroidery the same again. But then I never was the customer for such garments.

Anne Hedonia (j.lu), Monday, 15 July 2019 00:08 (one month ago) link


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