The general injoke-laden insanity of this board

keep 'em old, I say

um, oh, ph34r m3, catbus, 3d monstah maze, ect (obv)

oh wow ... seth putnam posts here now!

hein?

http://www.vias.org/beyinfoage/img/circle_of_life.png

breadslice

Rockist Scientist OTM

injoke-bin-laden

heard any good in-jokes lately?

there was a pretty funny one where the IRE/1p3/post-noise/ask chaki/zinger/revivalist/post-idme crew claimed to have a "secret board".

DJ grizz

lol post-noize

apres-noize

aprez lawaai

na geluidsoverlast

I think noize is actually made by general mills.

uh, what the hell else can possibly happen with an internet "community" of 30-40 regular posters?

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, October 28, 2002 4:43 AM (7 years ago) Bookmark

we need new blood

blood as in sacrificial victims

What, we're not good enough for you? ;_;

I like the scare-quotes around "community."

I could use some new blood

Shit, can i dig myself into my stereotype any further :|

(NP: the cure)

lol

http://www.ics.uci.edu/~eppstein/pix/boobash04/GummyBearGoth-m.jpg

what's in her mouth??

ew

oh, gummy bear.

Is scott trying to suggest I look 12 ;_;

who are you people?

Not a day goes by I dont ask myself the same question.

it looks like a pickle to me.

boogers ftw

http://agrammar.tumblr.com/post/211360936/why-snark-works

The histories of a lot of message boards and comments boxes can be traced out along these lines: they begin with a few people earnestly explaining themselves to one another, finding common assumptions and common ground and welcoming newcomers; then they grow, and their shared assumptions solidify, and they get flip and concise and referential and giggle at newcomers who stumble in and Have to Ask.

That's one of the best blog posts about the internet I've ever read. OTM.

(Being the one who usually Has to Ask here, that post very accurately articulated one of the primary reasons I always feel out of place here.)

what a disaster for snarky in-jokes

http://oneseasonnation.com/www/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/2009/03/newbie.gif

Sometimes being the "one who has to ask" can have its good points.

You can often learn more coming at something with a kind of Socratic "I know nothing about this..." open mind - it's a good antidote to groupthink.

you know, i like that post about snark but once it tries to draw conclusions it becomes tautological: "snark works [on a rhetorical level] because it is fun and attractive"

this isn't a meaningful thing to say because EVERYTHING that works on a rhetorical level - to the extent that it does work - is fun and attractive

and it's not even right, because i find a lot of snark (here and elsewhere) incredibly offputting (not just the stuff aimed at me, i promise!)

Yeah, but no one wants to be the fun-hating humourless git that says "that's not funny" once the snark is established.

there's no similar inhibition against being the "let's point out the obvious" one though.

ken c, could you explain what you mean there?

I dunno, I've killed a bunch of my recent posts before submitting because I thought they were tl;dr on the pointing out the obvious tip, and truncated them to a shorter burst of possibly elliptical snark instead. Like my posts always end up at 4 huge paragraphs anyway and I don't want them to be 6 huge paragraphs which make everyone sigh "yeah, we all got that already, thanks" (though I'm sure they do all the same). And ILX is not short of snappy elliptical snark, so I doubt I'm the only one.

yeah otm, i've tried to cut down on the pedantry, maybe not successfully :/

I write short elliptical posts cause I'm lazy

i write short posts because it seems, i dunno, kind of rude to be the kind of poster who always has so much to say about a certain subject and not be able to say it in a concise manner

(i mean, those kinds of posts/posters are fine, once in awhile. . .)

I make short posts to cut down on the possibility of being xposted.

the elliptical in joke quality of ilx is the best imo - sometimes its overly negative - but often the negativity is just ones own paranoia - like half the time something looks like an in joke really no one has any idea whats going on - u have to learn to float in space maaan

also the bord encourages pithiness - which is a good quality in writing and lyfe

i try to make short posts because most posts are short! perhaps that isn't a good reason...or is it?

totes

I guess I've just acknowledged that ILX is mostly a short-post casual-conversation format now, not a lengthy full-idea exchange -- which is fine and pretty much necessary -- and thus bothered setting up a blog to go tell the long stuff to.

(Haha and then something from said blog gets linked to and discussed here and it's not all tl;dr because it's a blog post! Everyone wins!)

nabisco, why do you think it's necessary? (I'm genuinely interested in knowing what you mean here.)

i write short posts because it seems, i dunno, kind of rude to be the kind of poster who always has so much to say about a certain subject and not be able to say it in a concise manner

But if you ask people who believe that ILX was "better" in 2000-03 what made it so, it seems like a lot of them point to the prevalence of thoughtful multi-paragraph posts. Of course, in the very early days, there were a lot fewer people on the board, which meant that Dan's concerns about xposts didn't exist.

it's worth noting that when discussions get serious, most everyone on this board seems willing to start writing longer/more serious posts.

I rarely have an interested, educated view on matters so most of my posts are one sentences, rubbish zings, 'LOL', 'wtf', 'what's that?', 'huh?' or 'OTM'. Only time I really type at length is on the Premiership thread and I bore the crap out of everyone when I do so, so I've cut down on doing this unless something big happens so I can write up a bunch of my misguided views.

a hoy hoy OTM. I could say the same for myself; just switch Premiership thread to Wilco-related threads.

But if you ask people who believe that ILX was "better" in 2000-03 what made it so, it seems like a lot of them point to the prevalence of thoughtful multi-paragraph posts.

Yeah I get that. But. . .90% of the reason i'm here is for the hahas. the yuks. no matter how hard we try to convince each other of stuff with our multi-paragraphs posts, it's very rare that we ever *do* convince another person. of course, trying to sway others with an argument isn't the only reason people write long posts, but it sometimes seems that way.

and also, i don't always agree with looking at ILX as having "better" eras or whatever. it's just the internet.

see that is a great opening for someone to write an incredibly long navel-gazing argument satire post detailing why Que's stance is simultaneously right and wrong but by the time anyone was done, 40 other ppl would have posted

xpost: SEE?

high fives

sometimes long posts contain more and better information but often theyre just long

it's just the internet.

the internet is important and changing the world

formatting is key

i mean let's have fun, right guys?

no matter how hard we try to convince each other of stuff with our multi-paragraphs posts, it's very rare that we ever *do* convince another person.

there's a difference between convincing somebody and giving them a better perspective of the other side of some argument. I mean, esp like on ILM, if you really don't like something, you're probably gonna keep really not liking it (at least in the near future.) but (for me at least) it can be interesting to hear somebody intelligent explain what they enjoy about bands/artists/genres that you find horrid.

the para break is your friend. my friend, anyway.

GIS #8 for fun--just imagine this is me, and how i post

http://www.filebuzz.com/software_screenshot/full/28459-fun_photo_creator.jpg

^^^ OTM

you can flay?

Yeah~

http://www.thehotzoneonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/bobby_flay_e.jpg

I believe I can touch the skay

i think l0u1s gets unbanned tomorrow.

(btw 3 xposts to post that 1 line)

xpost and 1 for this one

http://www.mindflayer.ca/images/Mind-Flayer2.jpg

^^^ those things suck btw

Yeah. I mean, I think I've changed alongside ILX. When I found ILX in early 2003, the fact that people were having these long, serious, intellectual conversations about indie and pop music was a huge part of what hooked me, but now that I've been here for more than six years, I value the board for much different reasons.

literally!!!

worst thread revive ever.

lets save this forum

Only if you buy me buffy dvds.

I want to post on this thread just to make other people have to xpost

I want to post on this thread to encourage Mr. Que to make more funny jokes.

kshighway: I think it's "necessary" for pretty much the same reasons about number of participants and familiarity with one another that I was spitballing about in that blog post. It's like the difference between a dinner with three people and a dinner with 15. Back when ILX was small, and like a half-dozen people would be on each thread, you needed people to be in-depth and thoughtful, because there wasn't a rapid conversation, and when you saw a new post to a thread you hoped it'd be something substantive enough to chew on. Then there were lots of participants, and the conversation became quicker and shorter and more party-like. (And part of what made that possible is that people got to know each other and what the "shared assumptions" and old arguments of the board were, so a conversation of short casual posts could work better: people didn't need to explain the whole entirety of where they were coming from.) So we have a style of conversation that works for the number of people in it and what they know, which works fine. And iatee's right -- much like at the big dinner party, if things get serious, everybody slows down and tries to be clear and says more. Even if lots of people are there. We know how to recognize when casual conversation isn't the best tool anymore and we're all trying to get at something that takes a bit longer.

(btw, what that blog post was really trying to get at -- and not entirely succeeding -- was that there's this level where flippancy and in-joking can actually convince people of stuff they didn't even realize they were being convinced of ... like you can someones wind up drawing people into certain assumptions not by earnestly convincing them, but because the way you joke around those assumptions is appealing or confident or makes people wonder about being inside it. You've probably experienced that here, kshighway, with flip jokes about liking indie!)

xposts (haha) -- I don't want to be convinced, I usually just want to know the whole of what people are thinking / coming from -- it's just we have a format now where you pick that up from extended casual conversation and not dense statements

score

oh there are still plenty of dense statments

^^ Tuomas still posts here.

can a mod just permanently put OTM next to nabisco's name?

i think nabisco is really smart but i only read the first and last sentences of all his posts so i might be wrong

i need coffee.

okay, i'm going to get coffee. does anyone need anything?

good blog nabisco

i just got a coffee, it's great. eating some bread & hummus, drinkin a coffee.

All I read of harbl's post was

i think nabisco ... might be wrong

xp Scott: - could you unban l0u1s j@gger while you're out?

see it's true you can read the beginning and end of something and not lose anything

dan otm there are still dense statements if you know where to look for them

scott- a muffin would be nice.

i like louis. did he ban himself? does he have to study for a "maths" test or something?

sarahel is like a war bride waiting for her gi to come home

he is my son you know.

i'm going to the greek place. they don't have muffins. they have little dense pastries though. not very pithy. but chewy.

is gi only for americans? what do you call british soldiers? 007s?

ok i'll just eat an apple instead. like they say, an apple a day...

oh man we have the best apples. western mass is lousy with apples. all kinds. very nice. okay, i'll be back.

When come back, bring pony.

Scott I need some skins damn too late

i enjoy this internet discussion board thanx 4 posting every1

Only time I really type at length is on the Premiership thread and I bore the crap out of everyone when I do so

this is only a half truth at most

I don't bore the crap out of you?

nabisco do you really have a blog where you post stuff that would go on ilx but it's too long so you post it there instead? <3 U duder.

i'm never going to the greek place again. i gotta get a coffee maker for the store. do you know what they do there now? they have one thing of regular coffee and they "flavor" it with hazelnut flavor. ?????? um, that is no longer regular coffee. that is hazelnut coffee. "he only puts in a little bit..." yuck. i could handle maybe a dash of cinnamon if i had too...just don't dig faux-hazelnut.

my friend danny brought his dad into the store yesterday and he was so cool. the only comparison i could make is that it was like talking to someone i like on ilx. he was really quick and he knows about all the kinds of things i like. i wish he was my dad. sorry, dad! plus, he's a world famous comic book artist who i was a fan of in the 80's. which just makes him cooler. plus, he bought cool movie posters from me. thief. demon seed. reincarnation of peter proud. he wins coolest dad award.

anyway, that's my attempt to say something nice about ilx via conversational anecdote.

nabisco is a born blogger - gonna check out his blog as soon as i google [nabisco] [.] def

a picture of beyonce comes up btw

that's him

otm

nabisco's got back.

cant find the blog btw link?

i didn't really understand the blog talk. or the blog post he was talking about. nabisco's got blog. that's all i've learned today.

Here

I still don’t know what exactly is so fun about these Oreo Fun Stix and I’ll probably never find out. I guess just because it has the word “fun” in it, doesn’t automatically make them fun, after all, the word “fun” is also in words like defunct, dysfunctional, funeral, fungus, malfunction and nonrefundable.

Nutter Butters are pretty awesome. Good post!

i didn't really understand the blog talk. or the blog post he was talking about. nabisco's got blog. that's all i've learned today.

― scott seward, Friday, November 6, 2009 4:23 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

seems some were referring to another thread - it may be a joke shared by those in the know

okay, best blog ever:

"Take it from someone who had their memories spoiled by these bars. The first time I dunked an Oreo in a glass of milk…RUINED! The first time I scraped off all the peanut butter filling from a Nutter Butter with my two front teeth…RUINED! That time I created a Mr. Peanut action figure with a Nutter Butter, black pipe cleaners and construction paper…RUINED! That time I put Oreo fillings on my nipples and convinced a dog to lick them…RUINED!"

Guys, I linked to Nabisco's blog in my first post on this thread. Although I didn't realize at the time that it was his blog. I'd seen the post linked to from someone else's blog a couple of weeks ago and didn't really pay attention to who the author was. But then after I posted it to this thread, I read more and connected the dots.

might be the best thing i've EVER read on the internet. i so wish that was really on nabisco's blog.

see, that's where the confusion came from. we never read your posts, jaymc!

^^^^

you can learn more from a threadful of pithiness here than you can after 50000-word threads elsewhere.

also ppl don't mind taking three posts to say something

nabisco should blog abt nabisco products now and then as an injoke for us

nabisco is a born blogger - gonna check out his blog as soon as i google (nabisco) (.) def

― ice cr?m, Friday, November 6, 2009

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a picture of beyonce comes up btw

― ice cr?m, Friday, November 6, 2009

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that's him

― TGAAPQ (Mr. Que), Friday, November 6, 2009

I've lusted in my heart. I just didn't realize it was for nabisco.

i'm lusting for some nutter butters right now

twss

The covered kind are best.

http://www.peterbrooke.com/new%20products/lg_nutterbutter.jpg

those look delicious! I think I've had them before and they are truly a quality snack product.

Banned at my daughter's school.

(No peanut products.)

For people who are allergic to peanut imagery?

lol. One of my daughter's classmates has a severe peanut allergy. The kids can't bring foods that were made in facilities where peanut-based products are produced.

wait: is this some kind of central policy, or some kind of small-group accommodation being made for the kid with the severe allergy? (cause in the latter case it seems kinda nice, and in the former one it alarms me)

I'm just imagining the nightmare of determining whether your food was made in a facility that also produces peanut-based products.

Most labels say so these days.

xp - a lot of things are labeled with that info though.

most schools are peanut-free now. no pb&j allowed.

Central policy at the school. There are a few students with similar allergies. (xp)

That doesn't make it any less of a nightmare! Reading labels is for suckas.

it works out well for us cuz rufus likes jelly sandwiches and his school doesn't allow peanuts and cyrus only eats peanut butter sandwiches and the ymca daycare is fine with peanuts.

Yeah, it is a pain to review every label.

Scott, we get by with "Sunbutter 'n jelly sandwitches."

"Sunbutter"?????????????????? THAT'S CHILD ABUSE

strawberries are the other big allergy these days. but i don't know of any major strawberry bans. it's a pesticide thing. (i just made that up)

LOL. My daughter thought so.

yeah maria will buy the fake soy whatever butters and they are yuck.

wow. I mean, I can see why, what with not trusting children to handle food that could actively harm one another, but that pushes some kind of teabagger/freedom button with me, like now you can't provide children with basic foodstuffs of your choice?

this will get hairy when we finally develop an American child who is allergic to everything BUT peanuts

Well, some of these allergies are easily triggered, and maybe deadly.

yeah I know, I totally understand -- and you can't easily teach/trust small children to be all thorough and careful about it. still, though, it's kinda odd

this will get hairy when we finally develop an American child who is allergic to everything BUT peanuts

http://www.babarworld.com/aom/babar-pom.gif

Beaten by the French!

Dan, don't make fun of the French not all of them have big noses

kids just want attention. i say feed them the stuff till they get used to it.

or their faces explode

6 of one, half-dozen of the other

kids just want attention. i say feed them the stuff till they get used to it.

Ha! I'm emailing that to the school principal!

kinda wading in late here and dont know what prompted this discussion but the jewish community center @ which i work is also peanut free - our kids have sunbutter & jelly all the time. i've actually grown to really like it, it's not that much different tasting than PB, just as good

We'll work up a petition to overturn the policy. Maybe stage some rallies about freedom.

strawberries are the other big allergy these days. but i don't know of any major strawberry bans.

There was a kid at my preschool (30 years ago) that was allergic to strawberries.

babar-pom.gif

I seriously just had to squint at the screen to make sure this didn't say something I really, really didn't want it to

(Sunbutter isn't so bad, seriously. It isn't PB, but once you read about what inspectors found in those peanut-butter production facilities, Sunbutter begins to taste much better.)

in my day, there might have been, like, one kid with asthma or something and we would beat them to a pulp and throw their inhalers away and it was never spoken of again. you can't coddle these crybabies.

and yeah of course being peanut-free is a great thing, people are against something that can accidentally kill kids (and almost has, in my experience)?

kinda wading in late here and dont know what prompted this discussion but the jewish community center @ which i work is also peanut free - our kids have sunbutter & jelly all the time. i've actually grown to really like it, it's not that much different tasting than PB, just as good

I suppose it's not that different-tasting from peanut butter if you think that peanut butter tastes like pureed tire rubber that's been stored in a dead gibbon

(yes my mom went through a serving-us-sunbutter phase when I was a kid; it lasted right up until she tasted it herself)

also what dirty thing did you think "babar-pom.gif" said??????

dead gibbon????

haha dan

dude sometimes an m looks like an rn

i dare someone to google babar porn

and sometimes an m is only an m

lol top 9 alternatives to peanut butter includes bean dip:

http://foodallergies.about.com/od/commonfoodallergies/tp/peanutbutter.htm

Bean-dip and jelly sandwitches?

ranch dressing and jelly sandwiches

double lol:

6. Salad Dressing

I would maybe try guacamole + jelly if you toasted the hell out of the bread

I think the ppl who made this list didn't really think it through

man we're mad poor at my JCC and we've made do w/ orange marmalade & sunbutter sandwiches on hamburger buns multiple times

I would maybe try guacamole + jelly if you toasted the hell out of the bread

― oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Friday, November 6, 2009 10:37 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

g-r-o-s-s.

Would eat all these almond butter and jelly sandwiches, though! Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

xp Maybe use BANANA GUACAMOLE?

what's in this stuff?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31lwYC-jEzL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

poop

"Better n' peanut butter is the answer to all my prayers! Even though it may not be -as- good as real peanut butter, it satisfies my cravings immensely. It has just enough of the creamy peanut butter taste to calm my nerves. I enjoy hoards of it between two slices of bread, and I'm sent to heaven and back. I would like to give a kiss to whoever invented this product! Now I can eat peanut butter without having a huge guilt trip! Yayyyy!"

Who ever the person is that said this stuff tastes like nail polish must have just swallowed a bottle of it then taken a bite of the peanut butter because there is not other reason that I can think of for them to make that assessment.

This stuff is fabulous! If your looking for chunky, this is not for you. It has a nice sweet flavor, which makes it extra nice if your out of jelly or jam because it can work nicely on it's own. :) It's also very smooth and soft and extremely spreadable. I have been very into PB&J lately and am just flying through my jars.

I live by this stuff and recomend that everyone give it a try but PLEASE realize that it's okay if you don't love it. You must remember that it's not your old school basic Jif. It's low cal and just different, but that doesn't make it bad. Oh, it's so good and I can't wait to have my PB&J tomorrow....maybe I'll have one for dinner, my mouth is watering for it right now. :)

http://natsukashi.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/stuff.jpg

btw pedophile alert on GIS for "the stuff"

that cast is str8 lol

Now I can eat peanut butter without having a huge guilt trip!

I mean, how much peanut butter do you have to eat for this to be an issue?

truly three hammy fuckin' bastards in that flick! love garrett of course.

you think danny aiello and paul sorvino care about how much peanut butter they eat! hah!

I bought some Better'N Peanut Butter recently out of guilt. At first I was pretty into it, but after a while I couldn't get over the artificial taste.

you have peanut guilt?

are you getting a tubby tum tum or something?

A GIS for Babar porn is surprisingly innocuous!

does that mean that nothing shows up or it's just really softcore babar porn?

This shows up:

http://www.eugenewei.com/images/misc/babar-newyorker-cartoon.jpg

tbh it's not really erotic at all

it is if you imagine the librarian and babar. . after hours. . .reading each other "Hop on Pop"

http://www.czechmyjugs.com/measuredpoliceresponse.gif

Hoppage on ... oh it's not worth it.

<3 <3 <3^^^

are you getting a tubby tum tum or something?

Nah, just thought, hey why not choose the healthier option if all things are equal? But all things were not equal.

Seriously wtf happened to the world that so many kids supposedly have all these deadly allergies? Scott otm.

we don't leave the weak ones in the forest to die of exposure anymore.

For a minute there I thought you were talking about new ILXors... I guess that still works ha.

xpost

nabisco: Thanks for explaining all of that upthread; I have experienced that here before, and I appreciate your thoughtful response.

Seriously wtf happened to the world that so many kids supposedly have all these deadly allergies?

^^^ This X 1,000,000. I never knew any kids growing up that had severe allergies of that nature. Now they seem a dime a dozen. Was it all of those immunization shots? Was Jenny right?

in my day, there might have been, like, one kid with asthma or something and we would beat them to a pulp and throw their inhalers away and it was never spoken of again. you can't coddle these crybabies.

lol'd all weekend to this.

Seriously wtf happened to the world that so many kids supposedly have all these deadly allergies?

^^^ This X 1,000,000. I never knew any kids growing up that had severe allergies of that nature. Now they seem a dime a dozen. Was it all of those immunization shots? Was Jenny right?

― I HEART CREEPY MENS (Deric W. Haircare), Sunday, November 8, 2009 10:06 PM (5 minutes ago)

yeah we should stop giving these immediately!!

I'm inclined to ask if there are still as many people with deadly allergies as there always was - bugger all and none - and schools are just being fscking ridic. No peanut products in the school? Come the eff on. I mean playgrounds with padded flooring and rounded corners, kids never going outside any more... I feel old, I really do.

respectfully, "come the eff on" is not a very good counter-argument for putting the safety of children with life-threatening allergies at risk

blame the episode of freaks & geeks where bill goes to the hospital.

i dunno though, you'd have to find some statistics for that (i'm sure there are some?). i've also seen a bunch of stories where schools are making kids go outside more, increasing gym class time etc, but that's in response to the rise in childhood obesity from what i've gathered

tubby peanut-eating bastards

I'm not dismissing the seriousness of life threatening allergies. I'm asking why when I went to school, this was not even remotely an issue, and I've never known anyone to die of a peanut reaction. Seen some asthma attacks sure. I cannot believe there are that many deadly allergics around that an entire community would shut down eating certain food stuffs, and I would like to think if a child has a known very severe allergy then it is his parents who should be educating the child very very strictly to never eat anyone elses food, to carry an epipen, and etc.

I mean that said, I do get the point that we cant be 100% sure kids that age will ever do the right thing and hence the bans. Still...

Food allergies are on the rise: "4% of all children hav(e) some form of food allergy. Over the past 10 years, the prevalence of food allergies has increased by nearly 20%."

i pretended to be allergic to brussels sprouts as a kid but it didn't fly

And it's a debate: Are Doctors Over-Diagnosing Food Allergies?

But, as I say, my daughter has classmates who apparently have very severe food allergies. It's definitely a real condition, and some kids can die from an allergic reaction.

Interesting article.

Doctors say that misdiagnosed food allergies appear to be on the rise, and countless families are needlessly avoiding certain foods and spending hundreds of dollars on costly nonallergenic supplements. In extreme cases, misdiagnosed allergies have put children at risk for malnutrition.

And avoiding food in the mistaken fear of allergy may be making the overall problem worse — by making children more sensitive to certain foods when they finally do eat them.

I can attest to this one personally, I was put on an elimination diet in the 90s to see if it would help with my persistant run-down health - I was constantly sleepy, weak and headachy and they were all bla blah chronic fatigue.

They claimed I was "insensitive" to various things but after 3 months eating nothing but potatoes and plain red meat, I couldnt even stomach half a tomato without violent stomach problems and rashes *I'd never had before*.

So I thought "fuck this", ate what I wanted, and to be honest was never that sick again.

But yeah (xpost) intolerances and ezxcema are a wildly diff ballpark than death by anaphalactic shock.

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