ARRRRGGGHHH DAYLIGHT SAVINGS!!!!

with my youth frittering away in this depressing fashion, i say praise be to them what tamper with time! Without them, I wouldn't have been able to stay up till HALF ELEVEN last night. yeah!

Yah, that's a major improvement. I get really depressed when I wake up and it's still dark outside--I just want to stay in bed and eat cookies all day.

(*this may be a slight exaggeration.)

I quite like the early darkness.

The inevitable downside -- and since I really can't stand short days and long winter nights, megaSIGH over it. It's one big reason I'm where I am, honestly.

really confused about what time it is

The hour goes forward in the autumn and back in the spring - it's easy to remember with the rhyme "Fall Forward, Spring Back".

u evil

fucking DLS means I have to cycle home in the pitch black.

i know how it works but is it 7:16 or 8:16. my phone + computer seem to have gone forward and ilx went back.

no this says it's next week! http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/clockchange.html?n=179

ok my phone and computer didn't do anything because it's not daylight savings time yet. ilx did it a week early?

We went from BST to GMT last night, here in Britishland.

oh. i see what the problem was. my ilx prefs time zone was "Cuba"

haha

lmao

DST adds an hour to everyone's halloween partying

living through another cuba

rip Fidel

oh hello it's time saving time in longdong

RIP one hour

hate it so much

Balls to this

ftge imo

lol shit THAT'S what just happened to that hour.

Computer clock reset itself.

more like gaylight savings

there's been a thread on why it's not Daylight SavingS, right?

daylight saving$

feeling bad for the housekeepers at hotels worldwide who on this morning in addition to their typical turn-down procedures must also manually adjust every single alarm clock

i hate this it's like the day is half gone already!!!!!!!!!

every farmer needs to be punched in the face rite now

While I love the later sunsets and all, waking up this morning at 5:30 for work was a bit of a drag...

xp except the ones in arizona and hawaii you mean

feeling bad for the housekeepers at hotels worldwide who on this morning in addition to their typical turn-down procedures must also manually adjust every single alarm clock

at least they only have to go one hour forward instead of 11/23

it is bullshit

My extreme laziness has finally paid off and not changing any of the clocks in my apt the last time this happened means that I didn't have to do shit this time around.

wow, The Wikipedia features so many interesting and potentially untrue facts about this fascist lie of a proletariat yoke

A 2008 study found that although male suicide rates rise in the weeks after the spring transition, the relationship weakened greatly after adjusting for season.[75] A 2008 Swedish study found that heart attacks were significantly more common the first three weekdays after the spring transition, and significantly less common the first weekday after the autumn transition.[76] The government of Kazakhstan cited health complications due to clock shifts as a reason for abolishing DST in 2005.[77]

In the mid-1980s, Clorox (parent of Kingsford Charcoal) and 7-Eleven provided the primary funding for the Daylight Saving Time Coalition behind the 1987 extension to U.S. DST, and both Idaho senators voted for it based on the premise that during DST fast-food restaurants sell more French fries, which are made from Idaho potatoes;[3] in 2005, the Sporting Goods Manufacturers Association and the National Association of Convenience Stores successfully lobbied for the 2007 extension to U.S. DST.[72]

Daylight saving has caused controversy since it began.[1] Winston Churchill argued that it enlarges "the opportunities for the pursuit of health and happiness among the millions of people who live in this country".[86] Robertson Davies, however, detected "the bony, blue-fingered hand of Puritanism, eager to push people into bed earlier, and get them up earlier, to make them healthy, wealthy and wise in spite of themselves",[87] and wags have dubbed it "Daylight Slaving Time".[88]

oh you melodramatic wags

The Wag Party

It's like the Whig Party but all your political points are in the form of horrible puns.

I told a friend to meet me for brunch today at 11 am, and of course, he calls 45 minutes ago to tell me he didn't reprogram his alarm clock. Ugh.

arsebiscuits dark mornings again

messin' with the clock

Now we all have one more hour in our Daylight Savings Account. Maybe when we die, we'll get to spend them!

arsebiscuits dark mornings again

The one thing I hate.

Arsebiscuits truly are the worst things about daylight savings, can't wait to avoid them when I move to Arizona.

Is that what the have as their license plat motto?

"Live free from Arsebiscuits"

dark mornings > > > > dark evenings

In principle yes, but my first DST morning and the pleasure I derived from it was grounded in the fact that my flight home last night was late, too late for the last bus and the taxi queue was long and cabs few. Ended up with less than five hours sleep last night and the alarm woke me up to dark grey misery.

sounds like a taxi problem, not a DST problem

More of a pittsburgh problem. In general DST means awake to see the sunrise for the next month or so and my living room has east facing windows which makes me happy.

I took advantage of DST a coupla years ago to sleep in and show up for work an hour late & real faux-apologetic, knowing that my supervisor would be amused at my boneheadedness (and that I'd work late to make up for it)! It worked jsut like I planned, but it's not something I'd dare repeat.

i didn't even notice until seeing this thread just now. who cares

http://comedians.comedycentral.com/paul-f--tompkins/videos/paul-f--tompkins---daylight-saving-time

f this

oh is this tonight?

fuck this

this seems appropriate. also GRRR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J1NHzQ1sgc&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Oh weird, DST isnt ending here for another month almost.

Which now i think on it seems odd because I'm sure it *used* to end on the march long weekend - which is today - so I dunno.

I honestly have no idea what people's qualms are about losing one hour of sleep. It's light out later!

I get up at 6 AM, now my body is going to think I am getting up at 5 AM for about the next week. It was really unpleasant last year, first time I was on this new schedule. Since there is no reason for this time change that I can fathom, I tend to resent it.

Also, it may be light later, but it WAS light on my way to work and now it will be dark for another month.

dst is the best tho, id much rather have light in the evening

starts too early, too cold

this does suck

ONE OR THE OTHER.

yeah that would be fine with me!

yeah there should be dst all the time imo, something abt energy usage or kids walking to school in the dark or some shit is why we have the split iirc

dst is the best tho, id much rather have light in the evening

― ice cr?m, Sunday, March 13, 2011 1:04 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Urgh. I thought I'd split the difference by going to bed half an hour earlier than usual (or half an hour later by summer time), got my 8 hours, don't remember any trouble sleeping... so why do I feel like a zombie with a fuck-off headache today? Would not have booked a driving lesson for 10:30am if I'd remembered at time of booking that clocks would change last night.

(PS I love having nice long, light evenings so summer time is fine by me really but the change is a jolt)

(sorry for stealing a USian daylight savings time thread for my Britisher Summer Time chatter)

just another sunday, boring as ever

Forgot about this and woke up this morning thinking "it's 9:30" then realising "bugger, it's 10:30". Rest of the day seems to have fallen apart into the standard timewasting YouTube watching and videogames playing.

SAME TIME ZONE.

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/3132/screenshot20120310at917.png

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/3132/screenshot20120310at917.png

JUST WHEN I HAD REACHED A POINT ON MY MORNING COMMUTE WHERE THE SUN WASN'T IN MY FACE ANYMORE, SOMEONE HIT THE RESET BUTTON AND I HAVE TO START THE LEVEL ALL OVER AGAIN.

(The fact that those two cities are in the same time zone doesn't really have anything to do with DST. BUT FUCK AN EIGHT A.M. SUNRISE!)

i swear we've been through (i think) 3 changovers now i and i swear to fucking god it's always been at a time where we've had a couple of weeks that are just going AWESOME in terms of lil' anabelle taking great 2 hour naps and being on this totally set schedule and sleeping great etc etc

then OH HAY LET'S ARBITRARILY MOVE THE CLOCK AROUND 1 HOUR TO FUCK EVERYTHING UP FOR NO REASON

I don't know why the hour change forward fucks me up so much but god, every year it's like I am death on two legs for a week.
And I don't even get fucked up by jetlag that much flying between Aus and US, so I don't know why DST is such a thing for me.

ARGH

oh boy tomorrow I get up at 5 AM body time!

I tell you all a little secret that I unfortunately learned this year.

Get really sick on Saturday night, run a high fever all day Sunday, be forced to call into work on Monday, and voila DST doldrums are cured.

Now if you'll excuse me, I need more saltines and Sprite.

that's a high price to pay

...

SOLD

half of our clocks set themselves somehow and the others don't. I looked hard at one clock that was set to 11 am Eastern Time and pretty much passed out again.

internet link http://time.is/

It's one hour, stop complaining people! I honestly never heard anyone really bitch about this more than in a passing comment until reading ILX yesterday. I completely fail to see how extra post work daylight doesn't totally negate losing one hour of sleep. It was light until almost seven - so awesome!

man it was 75 degrees and sunny out when i left work at 6. i ain't hating on that.

the gets dark earlier shit though can still get fucked.

Wasn't it great?!

i almost wept. i wouldnt have been the only person weeping at my bus stop either. butvi wouls have been the only weeping person without a cardboard sign with sharpied bible verses on it.

because sleep is awesome, that's why

New research shows that springing ahead for daylight saving time may do more to our bodies than a triple shot of espresso can fix.

When we set our clocks forward for daylight savings, some researchers say the disruption in circadian rhythms and minor sleep deprivation is enough to trigger some people to have a heart attack.

my sleep schedule is always fucked up anyway, so it doesn't really matter to me. i am v. much against the principle of losing hours of sleep, tho

let me have my IA this week, ENBB sleep is my friend, I'm in mourning.

evahbody just man up

no
babytown for me

smug east coast liberals tap-dancing upon mookie's grave, good work everyone, you got to wear sunglasses at a bus stop.

spare a thought for mookie

Guys spring equinox is in 9 friggin' days, you'll get your morning daylight back soon enough. What's important is that a) it's nice enough for me to start biking to work again, in March, in Cleveland; and b) I won't be biking home in pitch darkness.

Colbert suggested last night that it's all a plot by Obama to steal time from him and redistribute it among poor people.

http://overcompensating.com/comics/20120312.png

did this change last night in the uk? i can't tell if all my devices do it automatically or not.

my heart is warmed by the prospect of longer evenings though.

no next weekend

i.e. last sunday of march

ah right, i thought that but someone tweeted about it which had me wondering.

#unfollow imo

Just remember: Spring back, fall forward.

Just remember: Spring up, fall down.

Daylight savings really confused the heck out of me this time. I was on a road trip with my family from Texas to LA with stops along the way in Arizona and Las Vegas. We were trying to hit these locations at particular times, but with DST, time zone changes, and the fact that Arizona does not observe DST, we kept getting extremely confused about what time it was at any given point and what time it would be at our destinations. I'm looking forward to staying in one time zone now that I'm on my way home.

Just flew back & Europe & I gotta admit it's nice to have one fewer hour to adjust to.

still think switching for dst is dumb though

1st half of March seems a bit too early to be starting this thing.

No kidding.

Just now got it to where we all get up with daylight outside. Won't happen for another month or so after the time change.

Also, this is going just going to put the sun lower in the sky on my commute, meaning I'll more time to be blinded by it as I travel east.

ONE OR THE OTHER, I DON'T CARE. JUST NOT BOTH, AND CERTAINLY NOT NINE MONTHS OF ONE AND THREE MONTHS OF THE OTHER.

Also, this is going just going to put

I get emotional about this, as you can see.

fascist lie of a proletariat yoke

xp -- I have noticed you get het up on the subject about twice a year.

I'm just so glad I don't live in Indiana. They're on Daylight with the rest of us now and yet, from what I've read, everything's still fucked up over there.

you people who would take an hour of sleep over an hour of sun are anathema to me

I was on this train last year of bemoaning daylight savings

but now I'm kinda looking forward to it? I dunno what to say. i guess I'm a traitor

circle back to me the day it starts, I may have changed my position having lost an hour of precious sleep

When I think about how in July, sunrise starts at 5:30 am which would usually be 4:30 am, I'm willing to sacrifice one day in the spring to get a decent rest for six hours during the summer.

And when I say "sacrifice one day in the spring," I mean one day in late April, not freakin' March.

Wait, it's this weekend?? wtf ugh, it's just finally lightish at 7 am. such bullshit. It's still winter!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlcCN9704Hg

I can't wait!!

boom

wait so it's four now? why am I still up. Ugh.

oh wait no my computer did it automatically, nevermind

ok. now my turtles are confused.

Had me going for a moment there. I thought both my phone and my computer would try to update and wasn't sure if they had.
Over here it's the last weekend in March , not this weekend.

I love this day!!! One of my favorites of the year. It should be a holiday.

DST is pretty painless in the hospital

My husband changed some, but not all, of the clocks. When I got up, I changed them too. O_o

I hope yer hospital stay was by appointment and fully expected, morbs.

Maybe the nurses were friendlier since their shift last night was an hour less?

the missing hour screws up your medication schedule

http://api.ning.com/files/6V81SuvLHxj3eieqCt2ofDJtqz0WpHY5iKE91lQiw69xyj4B5BNteHk35XAna3-MBvALsGc2gGhVKC8NGtq9XhJJ8DAqt6Hp/DontForgettoMoveYourCocksForwardthisSunday.....jpg?width=399&height=600

Erring town

i'm in AZ where there's no DST but work from home for an office that's in Chicago...so now I have to wake up an hour earlier than before every goddamn day.

this is a good reason to hate civilization

wish it were dark now

nooo

Woke up at 6:50 this morning and it looked like 4:50 outside. Tomorrow morning is going to suck.

Beeps is already pulling the "I don't take a bath until after sundown" tactic....

http://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/eliminate-bi-annual-time-change-caused-daylight-savings-time/ShChxpKh

what is wrong with you

<3

first one i've signed, take that kony.

Kids will be impossible to put to bed tonight. The four-year-old is still sleeping right now.

But I get SUNSHINE on my after work runs. Sorry about your kids.

Ha @ 11 Months Pass... Had I only waited five more hours...

farmer's market was a shit show this morning - half the stands were only just setting up, everyone late

couldn't sleep at all

so much bullshit, i dont want extra daytime yet it's only march ffs

Yes!!!! Can't they move it to April or May? Wasn't it in April or May?

I think it used to be early April. DST got extended in 2007 so there'd be four extra weeks of it.

>:(

I know, right? Also,

Wyoming Senator Michael Enzi and Michigan Representative Fred Upton advocated the extension from October into November especially to allow children to go trick-or-treating in more daylight.[11]

DST is an important milestone for us with extreme seasonal depression. It's something to look forward to, it gives us hope.

go back to the yay daylight savings thread, flunkie

sorry bout yr depression tho

sunset at 7pm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sunset at 6pm

oops

fucking insane, but apparently coincides with return of human temperatures to NYC

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can we make this a holiday yet?

Fortuna, N.D.:

March 6, 2015
Sunrise: 7:29am
Sunset: 6:45pm
Day length: 11h 16m

March 9, 2015
Sunrise: 8:22am
Sunset: 7:49pm
Day length: 11h 27m

June 22, 2015
Sunrise: 5:51am
Sunset: 10:03pm
Day length: 16h 11m

^^ This is why I still favor the Electoral College. Give the flyover yards some equal footing while you Mid-Atlantic Northeasterners monkey with everybody's time.

That's beautiful.

http://i.imgur.com/ckpibNg.jpg

"Fortuna, North Dakota, minutes before its Midnight Fourth of July Extravaganza."

Hahaha, yesss. YESSSSSS

http://i.imgur.com/UQS0IcK.png

"Welcome to Arkansas, home of Sen. Tom Cotton. Please turn your clock backward."

sun all in my eyes again in the mornings

That's where you save the light.

DST is an important milestone for us with extreme seasonal depression. It's something to look forward to, it gives us hope.

Since Sunday I've felt a marked change for the better. I had an immediate improvement in my outlook and I've been doing things I want/need to do each evening and day instead of barely hanging on. A lot of important and fun shit has gone undone since December.

I would be all for making DST the year-round standard. Standard time is needlessly difficult, especially for those of us on the very eastern edge of a time zone. Sunset at 4:15 is bad and if it's cloudy, it can get fully dark by 3:30. That's really hard for me.

Only 7 more days until the sun sets at 7:00 PM.

ugh I hate the waking up difficulty. I was popping out of bed no problem at 6:30, and now it is such a fucking chore even if I give myself until 7:30!

That said, I bought some pansies and today I'm gonna put those bitches in a pot, so gardening season begins today!

the number of car accidents climbs 17 percent during the first week after the clocks spring forward

DST is killing people!

I guess it there still being sunlight when I get home from work is fun, but that's more than offset by the fact that I have to wake up while it's still dark, which is a horrible way to start a day

If they waited another month, as they used to do, the dark mornings would be as pronounced.

Wow, I feel all that SAD just evaporating! Thanks, 7-11!

http://i.imgur.com/5SRjvij.jpg

I love going to work in the dark! So cozy. Wish they'd get rid of DST though. Especially the 2005 extended version. It's like a shitty time remix. I suspect folks in the extreme northern latitudes might hate winter DST hours though?

Poor Canada. Were they even consulted on that remix?

Rep. Meeks' proposal up there is a rarity for me as (1.) Something I endorse from a GOP lawmaker, (2.) Something I support even though I know it's a terrible, terrible idea, and (3.) Why in the world would we do such a thing, let's do this, I mean it.

I love going to work in the dark! So cozy.

Me too and I wish I could feel that way about evening darkness.

DST restores me so getting up in the morning is much easier, even if it's dark. That's not the norm, I know.

See, I don't mind leaving work in the dark. MY DAY IS DONE.

Going to work in the dark makes me feel like I'm rushing to the airport for an early flight or I'm being forced to go duck hunting again.

Going to work in the dark is fine with me. I can just sleepwalk through it, it's an extension of my sleeping.

Interesting to see the different takes on this. My wife is in the "I can't get up in the dark" camp (never mind that she's been doing it all winter) and I live for being able to come home from work, sit on my front step and have a beer in the sun.

She didn't wake up in daylight one day and darkness in the next all winter though. It was gradual, which was easier to get used to.

And again, wait another goddamm month. I'm glad everyone can sit on their stoops in 45-degree weather and drink a beer, but c'mon.

I'm with Jeff. Easier to get ready for work while pretending you are still asleep if it is still dark outside.

my mom:

"Politicians are the only people who think that if you cut the bottom off of a blanket and sew it to the top, you get a bigger blanket"

I live for being able to come home from work, sit on my front step and have a beer in the sun.

otmfm

i love the extra daylight in the evening but the converse of that is that shittiness in the fall of having to set the clocks back again, it might be easier just to have it at standard time year-round in terms of handling the transition

basically i just wonder sometimes why i live in northern latitudes, if i just moved somewhere sunny and further south i could have a beer in the sun any evening of the year

Be an adult and drink a beer on your porch before heading into work.

basically i just wonder sometimes why i live in northern latitudes

otmfm back atcha

better solution: mandate 30-hour work weeks!

See, I don't mind leaving work in the dark. MY DAY IS DONE.

That's what makes it hard for me - it feels like the day is over and it's time to get back to the nest. I guess it might be easier to handle if the weather didn't feel like it was trying to kill me.

I have a SAD lamp but I don't know that it does much for me.

got out of work and it was still light and i was sort of in a good mood? maybe it's working

Every evening this week has been active and felt like blessings. Like a reprieve.

TBPF, DST coincides with the weather going from 0/teens w/ blistering wind to 40s (57° today!!). Decent weather would make me the early dark feel more benign.

I've been waking up (without an alarm) at 6:30 every day this week instead of 7:30-8. I credit the remission of the long winter depression.

I support DST. I like both changes. Last night I took a long walk home and got pizza, then opened all of the living room windows and listened to music had a couple of beers and watched the block. When we switch back I'll dig that too. Sleeping in and the darkness of approaching winter.

the number of car accidents climbs 17 percent during the first week after the clocks spring forward

ban cars

It has rained and rained and rained this week. Haven't seen blue sky since last week. Plus, I was sick.

What I'm saying is, that extra hour of daylight in the evening is going to be like a prison break.

we don't need extra daylight in hawaii, so my tuesday-morning conference call to seattle's moving from 8 AM to 7 AM ugh

Aaaargh!!! My favorite event of every year!!!

:):):)

I dislike it, because it is the advent of a punishing six months of summer

^^^

also i have to re-do the sun being in my eyes in the morning

Oh it's going to suck. Going to be chasing shit until August and then I'll finally fall into a routine.

Toddler nightmare

Love you dst

It's not for another two weeks in Europe. So that means the deluge of complaints and queries that accompanies LA getting into the office is just going to hit me at 4pm instead of 5pm.

Springbreak is an hour shorter.

It's extra confusing this year because I'm traveling between Austin, Indianapolis, and Chicago. Keeping track of the various time zones is a nightmare.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwbyCL0VEAEMCyn.jpg

everyone be careful out there

The phones at work have been an hour early all week. We use the cutting edge technology of 2004, apparently.

wishing for summer time in the winter sun

main dangers of dusk and evenings in nyc are stepping in dog shit

http://www.daylightsavingstime.info/ - It's like an IRE thread come to life.

at least those of us in the Northeast will be able to see the foot of snow for an extra hour on Tuesday.

Who do I talk to about never going back to standard time after the DST change this year?

DST is superior in every way.
Standard is dumb and it sucks.

Truer words have never been said.

also i get to get up in the dark to go to my doctor appointments again

I'll say this: With the way this year has already been going, DST likely won't feel so disruptive this time around.

the only thing good about DST is that it prevents the sky getting light at 4am in june

Who do I talk to about never going back to standard time after the DST change this year?

DST is superior in every way.
Standard is dumb and it sucks.

OTM

i swear it's like, hella early this year

when i was a kid it was the last sunday in april

so yeah it's hella early now

it's bullshit & i hate it

UK clocks dont change til end of the month

Johnny Fever OTM

The thing I'm proudest of Dubya for doing as president is lengthening the period of time the US is under DST each year.

It was the worst thing he ever did.

"Even worse than –"

"YES."

it's gonna snow tomorrow

a week or two ago it was 60

i don't even know when i am now

it's 2017

oh god

Worst weekend of the year

I love it so much.

If jobs were 7-3 rather than 9-5, would many care for DST?

granted: not many are 9-5 anymore.

what i want is darkness savings

mookie otm

all daylight savings means to me is that soon it will never not be 100 degrees for like, 6 months or some shit and i hate it

i can never understand? which time is "standard" and why

i can't figure out which one is normal. all i want to do is sleep all the time so i just treat each transition as i am entering a new period of hell.

Standard now somehow exists for less than 50% of the year in most places, so I don't even know what's standard about it anymore.

time classic

Time zones approximate 15° orange slices of the globe. Under normal, non-DLS time, if you're at 0°, 15°, 30°, 45°, 60° (etc) longitude, at the center of each abstract time zone, the sun is most directly overhead at local noon.

DLS shifts an hour from morning to the evening, and was lobbied for by ice cream vendors and the like who benefited from more hours of post-labor sunlit leisure.

http://i.imgur.com/9ypjlS0.jpg

Beginning tomorrow, this sign in Indiana will be wrong again for the next eight months.

all i want to do is sleep all the time

ilu

harbl mookie and I move to establish the independent nation of Sleepistan where daylight savings is BANNED

there has been some talk of colonizing the faroes

the summer light would be okay there

the law should be that civil twilight should never start before 5:30 pm (in Chicago at least) and if Trump could make that happen, then he has my vote in 2020

I hate 4:15 sunset (and on full darkness at 3:00 pm on cloudy days)

i've got some uncivil twilight for u

when do you like your daylight?

between 10 and 4 will do, thanks

back in the day i used to play pickup basketball after work, for which daylight is useful, but now let us plunge this planet in eternal darkness imo

I hear you. I've been averse to the concept of craving daylight. I used to think it was a sign of being a simp.

harbl mookie and I move to establish the independent nation of Sleepistan where daylight savings is BANNED

Tempe?

all daylight savings means to me is that soon it will never not be 100 degrees for like, 6 months or some shit and i hate it

― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, March 11, 2017 6:36 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm the opposite: the pain of the loss of an hour is offset by the coming of 4 blessed months when it won't be below 0°C in the daytime, for the most part.

granted: not many are 9-5 anymore.

Just us normals who refuse to do anything else. (it's in the Bible)

begone, sleepies

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4_27obWQAAHaNt?format=jpg&name=large

man fuck this daylight savings CRIME

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17191482_393706237662106_4799152403318643281_n.jpg?oh=0ef1c97460578c6fdde72499f5e2085e&oe=595E3262

vegemite

dst is banned in arizona

but...it's arizona...

What does the resumption of standard time mean to me? The bar opens an hour earlier.

hello darkness my old friend

Otm

Damn everything. Wake me up in 127 days.

i like getting up in the non-dark

^^^
And for us, it used to not be so much of a problem back when we fell back in mid-October. But for the last week, I've been waking up the kids while the streetlights outside are still turned on.

Between that, 80º weather and World Series that don't finish until November, I've been feeling pretty discombobulated already. Lord knows how I'll feel tomorrow.

But also keep in mind that tonight will be magical for one reason.

The Central Time Zone will fall back at 2 a.m. In other words, the clock will go from 0159 to 0100.

Since the Mountain Time Zone won't fall back until 2 a.m., it will also be 0100 in those areas. So the contiguous states will really only have three time zones for 59 minutes.

Which also means that the time in portions of Oregon (a state on the West Coast) and portions of Florida (a state on the East Coast) will be the same.

Seeing how DST is now seven months of the year, I think it should be called Standard Time. We could rename current Standard Time to something like Darkness Redistribution Time.

it’s the mooost wonderful tiiiiime of the yeeeeeear

Totally selfish, I know, but I don't care what time the sun comes up because I work from home, but I hate it getting pitch black outside at 5pm because that only leaves the weekend for me to do shit in my yard. Fuck s standard time.

I appreciate more light in the morning, being an early riser, but then it goes away quickly anyway. Annoying.

forgot to set the alarm clock in the bedroom back, now have an unplanned extra hour to kill before we go out & about this morning lol oops

the rudest evening

;_;

hate u daylight savings

1 savings

disgusting savages

Twitter was complaining about how this is happening during the SEC Basketball Tournament, and I was all oh you see now why this is happening too early?

For the first time in years I don't have to go to work in the morning on the first day of the time change.

^^^ same

Best day of the year.

*this* is what you check in for? bleah

Just letting you know.

I stayed up just to celebrate

Magically seeing 1:59 turn to 3:00 was kind of amazing

Like i felt i was really in the 21st c or on drugs, can’t really tell, but with much subtler side effects that my mind grew paranoid of the longer i dwelled on the fast forwarding of time

If you suffer at all from seasonal affective disorder today is reason to celebrate.

the internet, 11th march, 2018: where british people read american posts about changing the clocks and american people read british posts about mother's day and everyone thinks "oh shit, was that today? i forgot"

(uk clocks change 25th march and mother's day outside the uk & ireland is the 13th may, relax everyone)

Yeah, this is the three weeks where we wonder if our family in Australia is either 15 or 17 hours apart... or how about 16?

Still dont understand why ppl hate DST. Whats not to love about sunlight til 9pm in summer? Blessed days. I love it.

some goth you are

yeah it's the shit. even losing an hour this weekend, which I usually dread, was welcome since the 24 straight hours I needed to be at the hospital ended up only being 23. sorry haters d:]

just for that i hope you get a 25-hour shift in november

it's too bright

Whats not to love about sunlight til 9pm in summer?

It's the best!!!

DS is due to end here in a couple weeks and I will be sad, for that is the beginning of shitty, dark, shitful winter grim.

Here's what I don't like:

• Switching from one to the other.

• Switching in March while it's still winter.

seriously having to get up while it's still dark is the most depressing thing and totally ruins my mood for the entire day and an extra hour of light in the evening is not nearly enough to compensate for the torture I have to endure each morning trying to wake up early enough to get my kids ready for school/daycare on time.

I mean, it'll be ok in a month or so but still

Yesterday morning I was standing on the platform waiting for my morning train and noticing several unfamiliar faces and thought, these poor bastards forgot to change their clocks. And then I looked at my phone (AKA my alarm clock) which had failed to automatically change the time like it was supposed to have done. Who's the poor bastard now, I was forced to ask myself. Who's the poor bastard now.

I mean, it'll be ok in a month or so but still

― silverfish, Tuesday, March 13, 2018 10:37 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I mean, maybe they should move the big change to April? What would that hurt?

it used to be in april (and the same date as in europe) until this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Policy_Act_of_2005#Change_to_daylight_saving_time

(I know that.)

this has been the easiest adjustment of my life tbh

(Didn't you read this post of mine that I made 13 years ago?)

That's neither here nor there. I'm just mad that the line in "Celebrated Summer" about how sometime in April they add another hour isn't going to be relevant anymore.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, August 8, 2005 3:11 PM

no but i'm going to read it now!!

I THOUGHT THIS SHIT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN TWO WEEKS FROM NOW, NOT IN TWO DAYS!

it is a nightmare

https://media.giphy.com/media/XtjHZkms6nuEM/giphy.gif

fucking hate this bullshit

motherfuck

What the fuck?

too soon

can we just spring ahead 30 minutes and then end this whole charade

the greatest day of the year, finally some respite from the suffocating darkness of winter

y'all are crazy

real question: do you guys sleep so consistently from nigh to night that a single hour is that big a deal?

I get an hour less sleep on any random weeknight

“I’m mad because there is light now in the evening” whaaaat ppl

Shortest weekend of the year, kill me now

really can't imagine getting worked up over this

i bet you love summer too

hippies

tbh, getting our early-rising pets re-situated is more of a hassle than our own schedules

brad the government is stealing time from me

also now the sun’s gonna be all in my eyes in the morning again

also we have to deal with all the people writing EST when they mean EDT

last i heard california passed a plebiscite to make it always daylight savings time and because oregon has to copy everything from california we're trying to do it too

can we just pass a law to make time irrelevant, because that's what i really want

you all just copying hawaii.

But Hawaii is always standard time, right?

Some legislator tried to abolish DST again here. Keep in mind that we're at least 400 miles away from the nearest time zone boundary.

this basically means having to get up while it's still dark for the next couple of weeks. The worst time the year.

grow up y'all

go to bed early

but it's hard to fall asleep early when it's light later!

chile went permanent with daylight savings for a year or two a couple of years ago, but it caused problems so now they do the time changes again, but they change dates. It's really confusing.

I can barely keep track of when I am two hours ahead of EST (like right now) and then it goes to one hour ahead (tomorrow) and then eventually the same time. I think.

hey i have an idea why don’t all you sunlight loving school marms go on over to the yay march thread and let the vampires commiserate

Yerac, and you don't have to answer, but where are you? Greenland or Brazil?

man we still got like 4 feet of snow on the ground here

Chill out, it’ll be fine, just roll wid it

Chile. It's summer here right now.

May as well be summer here.

The day is going by so fast and everyone is still asleep. Grrrrrr...

We get direct, super bright light in our apt from about 5pm to 8:30pm. It's not the best part of your day that you want to be sweating your ass off.

Oh God it’s as bad as predicted! I lost 1 hour of sleep last night — how will I ever recover?!

I hate the idea of brunch, but my friend and I walked in without reservations at 10:30 to a normally booming spot #daylightsavingsproblems

how will I ever recover?!

there are studies that show societal effects, like increases in traffic accidents and illnesses, so it's not entirely about you.

I'm fine with Jesse speaking for me.

This could be a thing where we have red-hot needles driven into our genitals twice a year and there would still be people all like 'wah wah wah, it's just a couple of needles, what's the big deal you dumb crybabies, three cheers for the people making these arbitrary decisions which slowly erode the quality of our lives'.

Guess which side I come down on wrt this debate. Just guess.

twice a year

oh I'm 100% against returning to standard time

I was shooting for “humor,” but this is a good article challenging the statistics about DST
https://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-daylight-saving-20190309-story.html

I too would prefer no time changes, as long as we stuck with DST.

^otm. DST year-round works for me.

When the fall change to standard time comes, I complain as loudly as anyone.

Or at least as loudly as most people do about springing forward. That extra hour means nothing to me compared with looking forward to sunset at 4:15 (and dusk at 2:30-3:00 PM on cloudy days).

Chicago is geographically screwed when it comes to time zones.

brad the government is stealing time from me

also now the sun’s gonna be all in my eyes in the morning again

also we have to deal with all the people writing EST when they mean EDT

― mookieproof, Saturday, March 9, 2019 1:15 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ok fine admittedly these are all terrible things

the thing about daylight savings is that 2 AM on a Saturday is just early enough that it's plausible you might still be awake and/or out at that hour, which suddenly is no longer "that hour"; few worse feelings than (purely hypothetically, of course) spending two hours on a greyhound bus then another 15-20 minutes waiting for the subway, looking down at your phone, and all of a sudden it's 3 AM

Supposedly chile went back to using DST because of " ...However, the annual time change was reinstated in 2016 after feedback from the public about an increase in truancy during the winter months, complaints about older computers and other electronic devices not using the right time zone, and fruit growers reporting a 15% loss in productivity." - wiki

Feel like everyone I interact with has joined me in just getting back from a trip after spending a month in a place one time zone away

Or at least as loudly as most people do about springing forward.

You mean "wintering forward."

as it happens I also have a midterm tomorrow and sure could have fucking used that extra hour of study

sunny and 35 F at 7pm doesn't do much for me

https://i.imgur.com/CZtFsy6.png

https://i.imgur.com/kXss8IV.png

https://i.imgur.com/P7ksjMq.png

http://andywoodruff.com/blog/where-to-hate-daylight-saving-time-and-where-to-love-it/

I’d be surprised if there isn’t some freeman/flat earth/bitcoin intersection that advocates for individual timezones or at least against government imposed time.

that used to exist! in the early US! it was madness! there are whole almanacs that will tell you what time it is in various stops along the rail tracks if it's noon in philadelphia. or maybe i dreamt that. it's the kind of thing that would be in a dream. but i'm pretty sure that was a real thing.

i mean, i presume this phenomenon was not confined to the US but it is pretty weird thinking about an era when telegraphy existed AND multiple, localized, slightly out, concurrent time zones did too

The railways brought universal time to most places.

I did travel through the Nullarbor where a small number of communities voluntarily observer the completely unofficial Australian Central West Time which is 1hr and 45 minutes different from the rest of the state. It’s main purposes seems to be to confuse tourists.

Adelaide being half an hour off, and two of the states not doing daylight savings, made scheduling TV extremely complicated (esp during live disaster coverage)

Srsly, the only way this map could be any better would be if Canberra observed DST all year long.

https://i.imgur.com/nfzBf37.png

Why (those maps / that article) decided that "a reasonable sunrise time" was before 7 am is probably due to a conspiracy of so-called 'morning' people, who everyone with sense understands to be semi-human mutants and certainly not a demographic to be catered to.

^^^

they left out this little bit as well

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1dOd4GeLHV3x1rtZgCP_o23HAQ4E&hl=en&ll=-31.73867912320262%2C127.28759749999995&z=8

Like good luck convincing my body that it didn't drag itself out of bed at 4 goddamn AM this morning. Or for the next several mornings. My very cells screaming 'ARE YOU ACTUALLY KIDDING ME RN?!?'

wake up sleeple!

Why (those maps / that article) decided that "a reasonable sunrise time" was before 7 am is probably due to a conspiracy of so-called 'morning' people, who everyone with sense understands to be semi-human mutants and certainly not a demographic to be catered to.

― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, March 10, 2019 10:07 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^

― mookieproof, Sunday, March 10, 2019 10:08 PM (yesterday)

this is the highest denomination of money aimless has ever been on

Daylight savings is actually my preferred time of the year. Long spring afternoons and evenings are ideal for me. But one thing that articles don't seem to address is why we ever go back to standard time? What purpose does "falling back" serve?

Making Daylight Saving Time permanent is O.K. with me!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 11, 2019

https://lifestyle.clickhole.com/heartbreaking-the-worst-person-you-know-just-made-a-gr-1825121606

The sun should never rise before 6am if we can take that time and make it set an hour later
On the other hand I don't want to have to leave for work in the dark in December.

I don't want to have to leave for work in the dark in December.

I'd blame the job, not the solar system.

I leave for work in the dark every day of my life.

callooh! callay!

the last Fall Back in Oregon, we hope

https://katu.com/news/local/region-prepares-to-push-clocks-back-for-possible-final-time

Fuck daylight savings.

heretics!

its the mooooost wonderful tiiie of the yeeeear

time, even

cretins cheering on the exacerbating of my seasonal affective disorder

really fucking hate it so much

lol this has to be the most groundhog day thread on ilx

seventeen years of biannually posting the identically futile take, we're like Beckett zombies

haven't noticed this thread before

I'm not a morning person, I guess people here are if they hate daylight savings

xp it's not personal

nevertheless fuck you, darkness rules

worst day of the year for window peepers who are also morning people

extra
hour
of
sleep
ffs

yeah NOW but what about next march

Darkness is stupid, winter is stupid, sleep is stupid.

otm

hard to care about the extra hour of light in the mornings

would so much rather have it in the evenings

Ya know, it was getting late sooner anyway.

If Peter hitchens is against it then I’m pro changing the clocks every week.

I am working overnight tonight and have to work an extra hour thanks to this nonsense

thank you for your service but i have been owed an hour for months now, with no fucking interest

so ye complainers can get tae fuck

MOAR SLEEP
HAIL DARKNESS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=_DZsbGA1CcA

(Hawkwind - Hurry On Sundown)

Woke up at my usual time, which apparently is now five a.m.

Guess I can work that to my advantage this week, having an extra hour in the mornings until my jet lag wears off. Work on some night moves, make some front-page news. Ah, Novembertime.

Can someone explain to my cats that we're falling back this morning?

Ha, had the exact same problem.

Accidentally fell asleep with the lights on and music playing. I fucked it up!!!!

This is the first time in my 55+ years that I actually used my fallback to get an extra hour of sleep. Felt pretty fuckin' good.

Lol Floridians are so dumb.

Last year, our state legislature voted to end DST for Florida. Of course, that requires Congress to amend Federal law, so it was really a first step (or a PR stunt), which was made clear at the time.

Didn't stop Floridians from flooding social media last night, asking why they had to set the clocks back since we ended it.

Sadly since cell phones and laptops usually update themselves, my fantasy of millions of Floridians being on the wrong time won't come to pass.

And yes I get that "dumb Floridian" sometimes feels like a pleonasm

This is the first time in my 55+ years that I actually used my fallback to get an extra hour of sleep. Felt pretty fuckin' good.

"Sadly since cell phones and laptops usually update themselves, my fantasy of millions of Floridians being on the wrong time won't come to pass."

It sounds like the setup for a 1990s fish-out-of-water comedy. It would end with the hero teaching the futuristic people of New York about "real music", e.g. pre-Beatles rock and roll, because the film would be written by a baby boomer who hasn't got over Elvis being drafted. He or she would catch some crooks using a vintage skateboard, or something, or a surfboard, because people in Florida surf, don't they? He or she would dress up like the characters from Miami Vice. It's high concept. Nineteen-eighties meets the modern age! Cocaine everywhere, and people are paranoid about AIDS. There could be a cameo from the COUGH Indian COUGH chap from Short Circuit that would seem perfectly normal to the film's writer, because Indian people are funny, but would be horribly uncomfortable for the audience.

Alternatively imagine a film in which Florida is perpetually an hour behind the rest of the United States. The transient nature of internet microcelebrity is such that just being an hour behind the times would cut the people of Florida off from "the narrative". They would have to send meme-gatherers into the rest of the United States in order to bring back fresh live memes. I live in the UK, which means that I'm fourteen hours behind "the narrative". My experience of Reddit and so forth is that everything happened fourteen hours ago, while I was asleep, and by the time I catch up the drama is over.

I'm thinking of that woman who was on a flight to South Africa. She tweeted something tasteless before she got on the plane - "I'm not worried about catching AIDS because I'm white" or something like that - and while she was on the plane a twitter storm erupted, and she was sacked (she worked in PR), and she only learned about it when she touched down because back in 2011 or whenever there was no internet on planes. That little drama played itself out over the course of just a few hours. Imagine a future in which being just one hour behind the times was enough to cut yourself adrift from modern society, if that isn't already the case. That's why I read Ilxor every day, so that I don't lose touch. Once you let go of the rope the current takes you and you're lost.

Wow

I can't remember the year or the town it happened in, so I know this sounds like an urban legend, but there was a town in Florida during the 70s that suffered a power outage for one hour during the night the state sprang forward from EST to EDT.

Since it was before clocks that could set themselves, most people set their clocks ahead before bed. Then their clocks froze for an hour, allowing standard time to catch back up. When everyone awoke in the morning, there were no flashing 12:00s. Just a bunch of people who still wound up being an hour late for church.

...And dinner time is anticipated an hour early by some fraught felines.

Baxter just went “fuck everything” and started asking for dinner at 11am

Alternatively imagine a film in which Florida is perpetually an hour behind the rest of the United States.

I enjoyed the premises that flow from this but I refuse to accept the implication that the other rest of the US sets their clocks back three hours. The sun setting at 5pm is brutal enough, under your system it’d be dark at lunchtime come January.

I am working overnight tonight and have to work an extra hour thanks to this nonsense

― k3vin k., Saturday, November 2, 2019 9:09 PM (yesterday)

that's happened to me too!

i wish to report a burglary

Sorry could you speak in a higher register

I AM HAVING ONE HOUR OF MY LIFE STOLEN FROM ME

late April already? o shit

do you have a record of ownership of this hour for insurance purposes?

MOTHERFUCKERS STOLE MY HOUR
GIMME BACK MY DARKNESS

Ah, that time of year where millions suffering from mental illness exacerbated by seasonal affective order are finally given some respite by an extra hour of glorious sunlight

and other pweeple wose a whole hour of sweep "waaaaaaaah!"

woke up and it's almost 11 fick this

I'm betting you'll recover

i'm over it now

My body is a finely-tuned waking up machine, by which I mean it is common for me to wake up and wonder what time it is and see that it's one or two minutes before my alarm is set to go off, and I did that very thing today except that it was 59 minutes after my alarm would have gone off were it a weekday. So I think I have a fair claim on bitching about this daylight savings time that throws my ass off unnecessarily twice a goddamn year.

HI DERE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77D7DF4Gpo0

fuck off Hadrian, suicides actually go up when this shit happens so shove your snide bullshit back up your ass

ban this barbaric practice forever

maybe this year will be the year, here in oregon i think we literally passed a law that says "we'll go dst year-round when california does", get on that shit california

xp As someone who suffers from severe depression and lives in New England, this extra hour has for many years been my saving grace—on a couple of occasions literally so.

Anyway I don't know what's going on in your personal life either, so I won't presume to know what external factors account for your own (clear^) problem.

daylight depresses me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lNP-x94-SE

daylight depresses me

otm

year-around daylight time would suit me somewhat better than never-changing standard time because under standard time it would start to get light in June/July at about 4 a.m. around here, but if it came to that I would be fine with either. I am less than thrilled with twice-yearly clock shifting.

We should have daily time changes imo

just dispense with the entire concept of time entirely imo

make the day 25 hours imo

The extra hour for sexytimes and/or bathroom use

make the day 25 hours imo

go tell it to the earth's rotational spin

Daylight savings = good not bad because we are currently in that all too brief window when the time difference on both sides of the pond is reduced by 1h.

But it's even more confusing since Southern Hemisphere countries will be falling back ... in a month or so ... so who the fuck knows what time is it right now

Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?

I have to assume that was an anti-DST anthem. Good on ya, Chicago.

the people at my company are so dumb that they programmed Puerto Rico as Eastern time in the case management program because they thought that's what they were on. at least it now it won't matter for half a year

That's another thing: Sick of having to call myself Chicago or Houston whenever I set my time zone on something.

lol New York for me.

maybe this year will be the year, here in oregon i think we literally passed a law that says "we'll go dst year-round when california does", get on that shit california

― Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, March 8, 2020 12:19 PM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

we laid some of the groundwork in 2018, but who knows when it will actually happen.

https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_7,_Legislative_Power_to_Change_Daylight_Saving_Time_Measure_(2018)

Florida passed a bill like that but it requires US Congress approval

Iiuc a number of states including ca and fl have passed laws that will move them on to year round DST as soon as that gets federal approval. Currently federal law only allows states to be on standard time year round (eg Arizona) or switch at the same time as the nation.

Between the rain and whatnot, this morning is roooooough so far.

Help me, freshly brewed coffee, you are my only hope.

What I (honestly) don’t get is how people who complain actually notice losing that hour. Or gaining an hour in the fall.

Do those people have strict bedtimes and and wake times on the weekends?

For me, I never notice because on any given weekend night I might go to bed any time between 9PM and 2AM. And even during the week my bedtime varies by more than an hour.

Similarly, in the mornings sometimes I get up at 5:30, sometime at 7:45.

I understand that would be difficult if you had kids. But still, it’s only an hour, and I can’t seem to grasp how people sense the difference.

I have kids and this is also the aspect of the complaints that most puzzles me. Like even if I consistently went to bed and got up at the same hours (I don't) there are nights where I can't sleep for hours or sleep restlessly

it's being wrenched awake by an alarm that you know is going off an hour earlier than it should, in order to load sixteen tons and get another day older and deeper in debt.

with kids i find it's the opposite - instead of being rudely awoken at say 6am the clock now says 7am which feels more tolerable!

Similarly, in the mornings sometimes I get up at 5:30, sometime at 7:45.

you sound like a morning person.

Oh god no

Just depends on what I’ve got to do that day

Waking up and it's still pitch black out, no thanks

my body seems to have actually synched to the clock... as of the beginning of last week. I was waking up like clockwork at 7am every day when I was on my mini-vacation

this morning sucked

ugh, I guess this isn't the same everywhere but having to get up while it's still dark is the most depressing shit (and I really don't get up that early for someone who has kids that I have to get to school) and I find that the couple of weeks following the time change to generally be the most difficult of the whole year for me

Move the shit back to April. We'll be in line with the rest of the world's time changes, the mornings won't be as dark, and the afternoon delight crowd will still get their sweet extra hour of golden rays.

Something I never knew until today: under the Wilson government, the UK adhered to GMT+1 from March 1968 to October 1971. In Dec 1970 the Commons voted decisively to end the experiment and we went back to the GMT/BST split the following autumn. During the first two winters, road traffic accidents increased in the mornings, but greatly decreased in the evenings. However, this coincided with stronger drink-driving legislation (and the introduction of the road-side breathalyser), which may have had more of an impact.

Move the shit back to April. We'll be in line with the rest of the world's time changes, the mornings won't be as dark, and the afternoon delight crowd will still get their sweet extra hour of golden rays.

Move the shit back to April. We'll be in line with the rest of the world's time changes, the mornings won't be as dark, and the afternoon delight crowd will still get their sweet extra hour of golden rays.

Absolutely.

The thing I'm proudest of Dubya for doing as president is lengthening the period of time the US is under DST each year.

― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, March 11, 2017 4:02 PM

It was the worst thing he ever did.

― pplains, Saturday, March 11, 2017 4:11 PM

"Even worse than –"

"YES."

― pplains, Saturday, March 11, 2017 4:12 PM

Holy shit. The Senate just unanimously passed a bill making daylight savings time permanent.

If this clears the House, no more changing the clocks twice a year. https://t.co/d85L72mzf8

— Andrew Desiderio (@AndrewDesiderio) March 15, 2022

LFG

That fucking sucks. I can't read when walking in the early morning hours!

Wasn't this attempted once in the '70s? Seems like it could be a be careful what you wish for situation.

I'm sure people were reading and walking before the '70s.

What about the year 70?

xxp Yep, and also during WW2.

would kind of prefer to get rid of daylight savings time and go to year-round standard time. Permanent daylight savings time means it's dark until 8 am in December.

It'd mean I'm always 2 hrs behind my office. Me no likey having to be up that early.

But wait does that mean AZ would move to pacific time zone? We don't want daylight savings time here

"The bill would allow Arizona and Hawaii, which do not observe daylight saving time, to remain on standard time."

I sign off on this 1000%. My internal clock is so finely-tuned that this time changing shit throws me off for weeks/months, often almost until it's time to do it again. I felt like a drugged ape at work yesterday.

I'm pretty sure our cat never adjusts, and asks for his food an hour early for half the year.

mine ask for food an hour early half the year and two hours early the other half

My cat asks for food every hour regardless

I don't have kids and don't start work until 11am most days so this rules. Getting dark at 5:30 sucks.

I'd be fine either way, but seems like sticking with "standard" time should be the default.

hope this happens because BC already has a bill passed to make the change to constant daylight savings but it is dependent on Washington and Oregon doing it first

it being dark before 5pm for over a month always absolutely tanks my mood

for me it's more about the morning. it being dark for an hour+ after you even get to work in the winter will also depressing. I like the switch between standard and daylight savings times

The physical and mental wear and tear of adjusting one's sleeping/eating/working/personal time pattern by a full hour twice every year is a problem that can easily be solved by leaving the clocks alone all year, but the problem of too much darkness in winter cannot be solved, no matter how much we fiddle the clocks.

Well, climate change is whittling away at winter, so there's that problem solved.

imo this is a proxy war between morning people and night people.

Kinda but morning people always win regardless.

This has maps that show the effects of keeping or abolishing DST, which of course vary a lot depending on where you are: http://andywoodruff.com/blog/where-to-hate-daylight-saving-time-and-where-to-love-it/

Here at the western edge of the Eastern time zone, it would give us one fewer morning of pre-7 a.m. sunrise, in exchange for year-round post-6 p.m. sunset, which seems like a good deal to me.

pplains linked to the exact same article three years ago. my reply was:

Why (those maps / that article) decided that "a reasonable sunrise time" was before 7 am is probably due to a conspiracy of so-called 'morning' people, who everyone with sense understands to be semi-human mutants and certainly not a demographic to be catered to.

Yeah sunrise should never be before 8am, just to drive home the point that yall are freaks for getting up and at em before then.

Climate change isn't changing the amount of sunlight each day...

I just figured that was a hand-crafted joke.

"actually, data in a recent paper suggest..." is typically how this setup ends.

Climate change just means you'll be sweating balls while you wait for the commuter train in the dark.

Yeah, it was my dumb joke. It'll still be dark, but it won't be "winter."

OK, I was just thinking that we've had some more-or-less snowless winters in Toronto, but it definitely didn't make it any more cheerful than usual.

It's like five months of November, plus frostbite.

I'm very much not a morning person, but mornings are forced upon me. Every time I have to wake up while it's still dark is hellish to me, which is why I would very much prefer year-round standard time. The actual changing of the time is awful too so maybe year-round DST is better than the current system, I don't know. Maybe this would force my son's school to not start school at such a ridiculously early hour, I don't know. It's not like I actually ever care what time it is at any point, I just don't want to have to force myself to get up while it's still dark out.

Yeah, same, this is Not Good. Also--is it not RIDICULOUS to insist that it's not noon when the sun is directly overhead? All summer long I already mentally subtract an hour to figure out when the sun will be strongest w/r/t sunburn, over-exposure, etc. Seems dumb to pretend otherwise instead of just changing the times things happen at.

i will of course bitch about losing my hour in the spring, but i think the current system is fine

at my latitude, permanent standard time would mean it would lead to 4:20am sunrises in high summer; permanent daylight time would lead to 8:20am sunrises in winter. i don't want either of those

The DST Grip Assistance Tool confirmed what I suspected... that no matter where I am in the US I do not like Standard Time and would be happier with permanent DST. I love going to work in the dark and hate going home in the dark.

Of course the tool doesn't factor in climate. Being in Texas, a few hours of sunlight in the winter after 5pm is actually useful to me because it's generally still warm enough to go outside and enjoy it. It also fails to factor in that letting people go to work and leave work whenever the fuck they want would be the best solution.

I read about Mason & Dixon using their theodolite to view the morning star to set their coordinates. They kept a journal, of course, and one of the entries said they got their readings at 3:40 am, right before sunrise.

This was before there were even time zones, but to hell with that.

I grew up at the far western edge of the Eastern time zone, west of chicago but supposedly gerrymandered to keep the copper mines on east coast time. It would still be dark at 8am in winter, but summer was glorious and the sun wouldn't set until 10pm. Living at the eastern edge of the Pacific time zone sucked because it was light at 4:30am which is totally useless.

I'm ecstatic that they chose to go with Daylight Savings Time and I don't care if the sun rises at 9am in December.

Love that exact same thing about summer but I've had too many years of getting up in the dark and going into a window-less office building in the dark and never seeing sunlight, to be okay with those winter mornings. :((( Not looking forward to it.

A lot of the talk is how far east or how far west you are, but the north and south differences are pretty crazy too. It took me awhile to figure out what was going on in Minnesota, having come from points further south.

On June 23 this year, the sun will set on Little Rock at 8:26 pm. About 720 miles to the north in Minneapolis that same day, sunset will be at 9:03 pm.

After all these last few years, this is finally going to be the thing that breaks us.

What I like about living further south is the earliest sunset of the year is still after 5pm, so it's not fully dark until 540ish on the shortest day of the year. The tradeoff is that it's never light out til like 9pm, which, being in AZ is a good thing.

Northerners do get nice long summer nights. And deserve them! I really noticed it on a June visit to Edinburgh a few years ago, there was visible sunlight until 10 or so.

I grew up another ~150 miles north of Minneapolis which really adds to the effect.

At its worst true daylight only exists there from 8:35am until 5:05pm - I would go to work in my windowless basement office in the dark and it would be dark when I left. I would have gladly taken another hour at the end of the day.

Yep agree. Honestly it's one of the reasons I moved out of IL. The freezing cold is one thing but lack of sunlight due to early sunset + frequent overcast sky was just too much.

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Commuting during the winter and having early hours, morning feels like the middle of the night when it's pitch black out and you have to wake up and get to work. I'd much rather drive home in the dark after work

hmm yeah, early morning snow not cleared in time resulted in a few school delays recently. could be a bad scene for snowy areas

My night vision seems to be deteriorating, so I'd rather not have to do any driving after dark.

hmm yeah, early morning snow not cleared in time resulted in a few school delays recently. could be a bad scene for snowy areas

Didn't even think of this!

Government offices closed until 10 am? Try 11 am, motherfuckers!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVoN7PVXRe4

I'll be able to see my book again!

will be glad when the time changes back again tonight

fascist lie of a proletariat yoke

― sleeve, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:29 (nine years ago)

My bedroom faces east. Daylight savings is good in the summer, but even then the sun comes blinding through my windows and I wake up at 6 AM

In late October with daylight savings I'm not happy to wake up in the dark, so I'm in favor of the switch back to standard time, even though it means it gets dark earlier in afternoon

my blessed hour is almost here

its happening again

*checks bedside clock*
me: mmm, 7:30, plenty of time to walk the dog and make coffee before D:O Radio starts
*gets up, gets dressed, looks at phone*
me: oh no

This is great! Did some light shopping, washed the car, took a nap, looked at the clock and it's only 5:30!

i.e. pitch fucking black?

This is great!... looked at the clock and it's only 5:30!

that's a one-off bonus on the first day or two until you've shifted your waking rhythms to the newer clock time on both ends of the day.

"Even one hour of lost sleep affects many areas of functioning – decreasing motor function, memory and mood. After the spring time change, traffic accidents are more frequent and workplace injuries are more common. In the first few weeks after the “fall back,” suicide rates sharply increase."

https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2014/03/06/daylight-saving-time-at-what-cost/daylight-saving-time-takes-a-toll-on-health

this is a psychotic and murderous custom, god I hope I live long enough to see it consigned to the dustbin of history

Today Mom asked me to get her and dad breakfast at Wendy's after I voted, so I pulled the app up, and I guess the app programming hadn't updated the time for DST, because the lunch menu was displaying an hour early.

I went inside to the kiosks, which were correctly still on breakfast.

I wonder if a lot of frustrated employees were getting lunch orders before lunch began en masse

I don't have strong feelings on DST, I just hope everyone does away with it at the same time, rather than leaving the fun scenarios at work like how tomorrow, all of our San Juan employees shifts now move one hour later for six months because they handle calls for call centers based in Eastern Time, whereas Puerto Rico is on Atlantic time, and does not observe DST. So last week ET and AT were the same, now San Juan is one hour later than ET

Oh the fun when our Ops team forgot this in 2015, didn't adjust the schedules, and sent the entire team home for the day an hour prior to closing

yeah I don't care which one we use, just stop changing FFS

it's the sheer arrogance of thinking we can actually control time that galls me

also the physical awfulness of the actual switching, twice a fucking year, hammering home the pathetic hubris of humans yet again

I like it. Time is arbitrary. The whole world dutifully fiddles with their microwave clocks on the same day (sort of - the UK did ours a week ago)
I don't actually like it that much because I don't like it getting dark so early.

I love it when it gets dark early. I'm more awake at night than during the day! The sun makes me want to nap (by the fishin' hole wearin' a straw hat and chewing on a stalk of some sort of grain).

I hat e the difficulty of trying to change the time on clocks I got from amazon that just have symbols and buttons and you need to find the manual to translate the symbols

Ugh, after nearly a decade of ending my work day at 3pm, I'm now on a 9-5 schedule and (emerges from office into blackness) rediscovering a whole new reason to despise daylight savings.

you can blame standard time for that, not daylight savings. standard time in winter just allows for earlier daylight in the morning

I think adjusting time to maximize the available light makes sense. It's just that there is so much less daylight in the Winter. Winter is what sucks

at my latitude, i think changing times makes sense. i just like to complain about my stolen hour in the spring

also (in the usa) the spring forward is now like six weeks earlier than it used to be. which is just weird

also i'm exhausted by people referencing EST or PST when those are not applicable two-thirds of the year

ditto GMT

"daylight savings" is the practice of this whole scam so OL is not wrong

Negronis for everyone!

it's not all bad

also i'm exhausted by people referencing EST or PST when those are not applicable two-thirds of the year

https://i.imgur.com/lYZHvfd.png

This sign in Indiana is wrong nine months of the year.

Daylight savings all the time, standard time sucks

only if you're not a morning person

it's

"daylight

SAVING"

!!!

I've slept gloriously the last two nights.

As much as I mostly just think we should stick to either standard or daylight savings without going through the time change twice a year, my winters would depress the hell out of me if I had to wake up every morning in the darkness, so my vote is definitely towards standard time year-round.

1. Almost everybody says they hate changing

2. We can't agree which to settle on.

3. At the same time (ahem) I am given to understand that when we DIDN'T change, everybody hated that too..

4. Hence my proposed compromise: half an hour, leave it there forever. "The time" is an arbitrary construct anyway.

My proposed compromise - everyone is blinded

wrapped up like a douche

Campaign shouting like a teenage diplomat #onethread

How about we go to permanent daylight savings time but as a compromise we all start work/school one hour later during the winter.

I’ve literally never known anyone irl complain about this, is this an American thing? It gets darker earlier? Yeah, that’s called the rotation of the earth on its axis.

we're americans we like to complain about dumb shit

also there are likely some people who don't believe you're telling the truth about the earth rotating on its axis

I mean, nobody is saying we should change the axis tilt of the earth, the problem is that we arbitrarily change the time we have to get up in the morning twice per year

And to be perfectly honest, I never complained about this until I had kids

pets hate it too, fwiw

xp one of those times you can sleep longer?

yeah with kids it's tough but after a few years, i learned to put 'em to bed later in the fall, and it def. helps. i'm pretty militant about my own sleeping--make sure I get 7 hours a night--and i went to bed an hour later for almost two weeks and had no ill effects Sunday morning, and have slept like a baby the last two days.

Wait does gyac mean that complaining is uniquely American or that time changing is uniquely American?

I mean https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer_time_in_Europe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time_by_country

It's gotten better now that my kids are older, but with young kids you are definitely not getting an extra hour of sleep. It just becomes this extra thing you need to consider in bedtime/early morning routines for a couple of weeks.

xxp

xp I obviously mean the complaining, idk how you could understand it the other way. Honestly it’s a total crank opinion here

I'm in the UK and hear people complain about it all the time - the suddenly dark evenings, the weird jetlag, the fuckery it plays with kids' body clocks.

Maybe it’s a thing if you’ve got kids, but I have never thought about it more than twice a year. I associate it with Peter Hitchens types.

Never heard of any complaints in the UK until literally Peter Hitchens would whine about it on twitter.

we briefly complain about it as a shared misery at work and among friends

maybe everyone's just always miserable elsewhere idk

Just really not that big of a deal

we should at least get cupcakes on daylight saving day

I will say that when I was in my teens/20s the fall time change was fun because it would generally fall on the weekend of my birthday (this was back when the time change was in October) and bars would stay open an hour more (because the time change was at 2am and closing time for bars here is 3am) which was fun at an age when I would regularly be out until closing time.

the extra hour of bar time was a tradition for sure

Here's my pettiest complaint: When the time change occurred in mid-October, my region of the country fell back from seeing the sun rise at 7:15 to 6:15. Now, a few weeks later, it goes from 7:30 to 6:30.

I get up around seven, leave the house at eight, all year 'round. That 15-minute difference is the difference between waking up in October to twilight or complete darkness. The difference between being able to flip the visor down as I get on the freeway to being completely blinded by a giant ball of hydrogen in my face.

I mean, I guess I could move to Nashville, but who has the time?

sorry if this is a dumb question but what’s the time change that occurred in mid-October?

Until 2006: DST from the first Sunday in April until the last Sunday in October

In the U.S.

Which is slightly confusing since other DST countries still observe the pre-2006 time changes.

Right now, there's a 15-hour difference between the Central Time Zone in the U.S. and Australia's Eastern Time Zone.

In the summer, it's a 17-hour difference because the U.S. jumps forward and Australia falls away.

But for a few weeks in March and a about a week or so in October... well, I don't know what the damn time difference is anywhere.

then there is this sort of joy

80 eastern Indiana counties are officially in the Eastern Time Zone
12 western Indiana counties are officially in the Central Time Zone

so regardless of dst they are always confused

At least they all jump and fall at the same time now.

Part of Florida is in Eastern time, part of Florida is in Central, part of Florida is in 1861

all of florida seems to be in the ocean lately

this wreaks havoc at work each year because we have colleagues in Panama and San Juan, Puerto Rico, both of whom do not observe DST. Panama is on Eastern Standard Time all year, San Juan is on Atlantic Standard Time all year.

we have a few classes that include both people from these locations, and people outside these locations. so right now San Juan is one hour ahead of Eastern Time, and Panama is the same as Eastern Time. After 3/12, San Juan will be equal to Eastern Time, and Panama will be one hour behind Eastern Time.

So this means these training classes will be the same time each week, but the people in San Juan and Panama will be coming in one hour earlier after 3/12, whereas the training time stays the same for everybody else.

just scrap this thing

xp I think all of Florida is in 1861 now.

Otm

I’m looking forward to it this year. One more hour of daylight in the evening is awesome

when will it end

• The National Sleep Foundation’s 2021 Sleep in America® Poll found that nearly three-quarters of Americans prefer a consistent year-round time system.

• The shift to Daylight Saving Time in the spring is associated with increases in motor vehicle crashes, cardiovascular morbidity, stroke, and hospital admissions.
A more nuanced discussion is necessary about whether the clocks should shift to permanent Daylight Saving Time (as proposed) or to permanent Standard Time (as preferred by sleep and circadian scientists, safety experts, and educators). It is easy to understand the appeal of having longer, brighter evenings. Permanent DST may seem like you get more hours per day of sunlight, but in reality, the plan just shifts total bright hours from when we need them in the morning to later in the afternoon. It is both less healthy and less safe to shift our daylight hours to the evening.

• Our circadian rhythms rely on bright natural light in the morning to wake us up and to synchronize important biological processes, with dimmer light in the evening to make us sleepy and ready for bed. Morning light resets the body’s biological clock and improves sleep quality and duration, bringing with it a range of physical and mental health benefits. In contrast, evening light suppresses the sleep-promoting hormone melatonin and pushes bedtimes later, reduces sleep duration, and leaves your body out of sync with the environmental clock.

• Later sunrises and sunsets are associated with shorter duration and worse quality sleep and more irregular sleep patterns. They are also associated with higher rates of obesity, depression, cardiovascular disease, and cancer. For example, a 2017 study showed that living on the west side compared to the east side of the same time zone is associated with increases in many types of cancer, including stomach, liver, prostate and non-Hodgkin lymphoma for men, and lung, breast, esophagus, and colorectum for women, and chronic lymphocytic leukemia for both genders (see Gu et al. article link below).

• Teenagers and others with night owl tendencies and people with work start times before 8 AM will be disproportionately affected.

• Morning light also improves safety, especially for school children who wait for their school buses in the dark. In fact, the United States experimented by switching to permanent DST in 1974 and quickly reverted to a bi-annual clock change later that same year because of the unpopular dark mornings and an increase in morning vehicular crashes and injuries. A recent study also found that later sunrises and sunsets that were misaligned from the sun being overhead at noon by more than 30 minutes were associated with 21.8% more fatal car crashes.
A consistent year-round time system is agreed upon by the National Sleep Foundation, American Academy of Sleep Medicine, National Safety Council and National Parent Teacher Association, and other leading sleep and science-based organizations. The conversation about clock changes is not about whether you want more or less sunshine in your day, but rather what time of day the sunshine is preferable. Science indicates that morning sunshine is best for the overall health and safety of the public, which is why these organizations agree that permanent Standard Time is a better fit for our circadian rhythms and the better choice for health and well-being.

• NSF ST Position Statement https://www.thensf.org/.../NSF-Position-on-Permanent...
• National Sleep Foundation’s 2021 Sleep in America® Poll Shows Gaps Between Public Sentiment and the Effects of Clock Change https://www.thensf.org/.../2021-Sleep-in-America-Poll...
• Gu et al. article on cancer rates by location within a time zone. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28450580/
• https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../daylight-saving-bill.../
When the US tried Permanent Daylight Saving Time in 1974
• https://www.washingtonian.com/.../the-us-tried-permanent.../
• American Academy of Sleep Medicine Statement: https://aasm.org/aasm-opposes-permanent-daylight-saving.../
• Sleep research society position statement: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36156090/
• Society for Research on Biological Rhythms Position Statement and Press Kit https://srbr.org/advocacy/daylight-saving-time-presskit/ https://journals.sagepub.com/.../10.1177/0748730419854197
• Sunrise time charts, educational material and videos and advocacy information at Savestandardtime.com

what, daylight time or that post?

lol

lol

Sleeping on the east side of the house, it's been nice having the sun wake me up instead of the alarm clock.

But now, I won't have that opportunity again for another six weeks.

(I'll try to remind myself it'll be for a good cause this summer when it starts getting bright at 5:30. "Could be 4:30," I'll tell myself.)

I've loved being able to read on my morning walks; I guess it'll be even brighter now? I forget.

darker

• Teenagers and others with night owl tendencies and people with work start times before 8 AM will be disproportionately affected.

cool let's all just ignore the extensively documented actual harm this does, and act like it's normal (it isn't)

sleeve otm, fyi

the current system is good

strong disagree

cool let's all just ignore the extensively documented actual harm this does, and act like it's normal (it isn't)

What are the health effects of getting angry about this for several weeks a year vs getting on with your life

But daylight savings isn't an individual choice one gets to make on their own, so I don't think "voluntarily" has anything to do with this.

Yeah that’s why I was contrasting it with things people do voluntarily???

Yeah that’s why I was contrasting it with things people do voluntarily???

Like if I was concerned about cardiovascular disease there are things I could do to prevent that myself, rather than shaking my fist at the sky and going DAMN YOU DST

current system works fine for me at my latitude

but i do like complaining about the hour of sleep being stolen from me in spring and having to change the clocks with 23 button pushes in the fall

I personally like it when the government tells me to sleep an hour longer, yes sir 🫡🫡🫡

my least favorite part is when we roll clocks back in the fall and i wake up from sleep at 1 am and have to think to myself "is this proper 1 am, or is this 1 am after we rolled back".

sleeve otm, fyi

Seconded.

There are some days when I work late and I don't get home until 5:30 or 6:00. And then there are the days where I pick the kids up from school and get home around 4:30.

And I swear that one hour difference fucks me up. Looking up on those late days and going, What the hell? It's already 10:30? Of course, this situation is semi-voluntary and not the fault of the federal government.

But next week is going to be a ride, I can feel it.

fwiw, apparently this does need to be said, having strong feelings about DST is not a personal attack on anyone's own preferences