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WWDC is Monday, nobody seems to be expecting anything much. Maybe the Keynote will focus on Swift 3. OS X seems likely to get rebranded as macOS. Music on iPhone and iTunes will both change completely once again, infuriating everyone. New watch bands? Jokes about The Car? Does anyone even want a new Apple product at this point? Will Jimmy Iovine be allowed onstage?

Sean, let me be clear (silby), Thursday, 9 June 2016 17:24 (seven years ago) link

when do they announce the new iPhone? i care about that

Spottie, Thursday, 9 June 2016 18:02 (seven years ago) link

presumably September like all recent years

Sean, let me be clear (silby), Thursday, 9 June 2016 18:57 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

Nervous that the next MacBook Pro is going to max out at 1TB with non-replaceable storage. They wouldn't do that to us, right? Because when this thing ships in 2017 I'm going to need more than that.

0 / 0 (lukas), Thursday, 11 August 2016 18:25 (seven years ago) link

"1 TB should be enough for anyone." -Apple, probably

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Thursday, 11 August 2016 20:06 (seven years ago) link

As usual, my phone is kind of fucked up just in time for the announcement and I'm just trying to make it last. Screen cracked a couple weeks ago, and it's really hard to make it charge.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Thursday, 11 August 2016 20:13 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

My partner picked up a new 2018 model 13" MacBook Pro and I'm jealous at a level I haven't dealt with since the Wall Street iteration of the PowerBook G3 finally got it right. My 15" is a goddamn barge and I'm finding that no model of iPad is an adequate travel substitute.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 20 August 2018 07:25 (five years ago) link

i got a 3400c just before that. jealous years.

j., Monday, 20 August 2018 08:20 (five years ago) link

I always thought the Kanga / 3500 / G3 PowerBook was the ultimate in heartbreak. I had a 5300 though, so I know the worst a PowerBook can be.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 20 August 2018 10:06 (five years ago) link

2018 seems like a good vintage of MacBooks to skip. I'm ready to order a 2019 model now, though.

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Monday, 20 August 2018 15:46 (five years ago) link

*silently pours one out for my old 1400cs*

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 20 August 2018 21:50 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Apple announcement day. *self-flagellates*

https://www.famousmonsters.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Logans-run-red_result.jpg

RENEW! RENEW!

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 04:33 (five years ago) link

Just tell me what the new Mac mini is...

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 04:43 (five years ago) link

excited for the redesigned spatial finder

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 04:55 (five years ago) link

I like my new MacBook Pro but am alternately cursing Apple for cutting HD space / not taking the +$400 hit and getting 1TB like my old laptop (a 2012 MacBook Pro).

Keyboard is fine but the trackpad sucks.

Touchscreen = I can summon emojis.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 04:56 (five years ago) link

I took my '17 MBP in to get the left speaker fixed (apparently this is a thing) and got one of the new keyboards. I missed the press release on this: https://www.wired.com/story/apple-will-fix-broken-macbook-keyboards/

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 05:01 (five years ago) link

yeah glad I got one after that. the SSD is not replaceable?

flappy bird, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 05:04 (five years ago) link

Nope on the replaceable SSD.

I guess I'm probably going to pull the trigger on a fancy new Xs phone but can't make much of a compelling case when my 7 just keeps on going.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 05:19 (five years ago) link

psyched for some extremely incremental improvements

bitch that’s the tubby custard machine (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 15:14 (five years ago) link

Creepy new iPhone X scans your face to unlock, has built-in AI, thinks humans are obsolete:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYIo2Lj9xek

dinnerboat, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 15:24 (five years ago) link

https://theporouscity.com/media/timtweet.png

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 17:23 (five years ago) link

It was already gone by the time I opened it.

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 17:28 (five years ago) link

ECG thing for the watch is pretty great

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 17:28 (five years ago) link

a little off topic but does anyone else use f.lux? it doesn't work on my new MacBook Pro and my eyes hurt

flappy bird, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 17:47 (five years ago) link

your new laptop should have that functionality built in!

Clay, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 17:48 (five years ago) link

yeah it's not nearly as good though, fluctuates too much, way too much blue at night. maybe i can monkey with the settings and/or just get used to it. apparently f.lux is working on a fix.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link

liquid retina huh.... maybe just call it plasma

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 18:29 (five years ago) link

Haptic Touch = long press

DJI, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 18:33 (five years ago) link

They're never going to do a watch with an always-visible time, are they? Fuck.

stet, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 18:35 (five years ago) link

All I know is if they ever make an iOS release incompatible with the SE, and don’t update the SE, I’m outie.

faculty w1fe (silby), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:01 (five years ago) link

this might be worth sending a CEO email about, what’s Tim’s handle again

faculty w1fe (silby), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:02 (five years ago) link

Ugh you can’t buy an SE direct from Apple anymore, fuckin whatever dude.

faculty w1fe (silby), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:04 (five years ago) link

no new macbook air?!?

:_(

the late great, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:07 (five years ago) link

sounds like they discontinued the SE

the late great, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:07 (five years ago) link

Macs TK

I honestly feel nothing for any products Apple makes these days, I’m not mad or anything it’s all just at a stable equilibrium and design differentiators are basically impossible, since all anyone wants is things built on the same lines as the products Apple introduced 2003-2007. They are still dragging their heels on a MacBook based on an Apple-designed ARM SoC and that irritates me a bit.

faculty w1fe (silby), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:11 (five years ago) link

Shit, maybe I better grab one before it's too late. My 5s will be 5 years old in December. xp

WmC, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:19 (five years ago) link

Price drop on “obsolete “ phones always welcome after an announcement

calstars, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:19 (five years ago) link

Ok, so there's no longer going to be any retail model available with a headphone jack? I guess this really will be my last iphone.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:39 (five years ago) link

either that or I invest in a good lightning DAC and just deal with the annoying bulk, I guesss

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:41 (five years ago) link

lol Apple now offering 7 different models at the same time

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1039962912805330944/sYRoV1Zg?format=jpg&name=600x314

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:46 (five years ago) link

hell yeah steve jobs would be proud

What customer is targeted by having a larger iphone 8 at $699 vs a same-size iPhone XR at $50 more?

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:49 (five years ago) link

They’re basically admitting nobody gives a shit about the phone hardware anymore. It’s just a collection of price points

faculty w1fe (silby), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:50 (five years ago) link

I keep thinking "this is finally the release where people sour on Apple" and then their stock price doubles again.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:51 (five years ago) link

xxp people who can't deal w/o a home button or hate the notch

the late great, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:53 (five years ago) link

Imagine what Steve Jobs would say about the "I Phone Ten XS Max."

http://blog.consumerguide.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2012/11/Screen-Shot-2018-04-11-at-10.39.01-AM.png

DJI, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:59 (five years ago) link

love how they used the planet image on the newer and pricier options so it's juuuuuust out of the way of the notch, attempting to fool us into believing maybe it's not there.

getting the max tho obv. my 6+ did it's job for four years.

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 20:14 (five years ago) link

Literally bought an 8 yesterday fuck

gbx, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 21:07 (five years ago) link

512 gb Max is $1449
LOLOLOL

calstars, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 22:08 (five years ago) link

increments increments increments

calamity gammon (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 22:22 (five years ago) link

I keep thinking "this is finally the release where people sour on Apple" and then their stock price doubles again.

― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, September 12, 2018 3:51 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Speaking for myself but I can't help but imagine there are many other people like me: the thought of switching to another OS is terrifying/paralyzing. I have used Apple all my life. Used Windows XP when I was in HS but that's it. Ever since his death the company has totally stagnated and failed to invent or introduce anything truly exciting. I use Apple products but I'm not a super fan, like I couldn't care less about the watch. All of their products keep getting worse too, in different ways. But I can't switch.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 22:25 (five years ago) link

I still balk at the idea of paying $1k for a friggin' phone. Also don't quite understand the difference in the X tiers

Nhex, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 22:29 (five years ago) link

I borrowed one of the fancy new Dell Windows laptops for a week to see if I could get along with it - god, it still sucked so much. All the things I hate about OS X (notifications, handoffs) combined with an absolutely miserable trackpad.

I think I'd be fine with one of the 'pure' Android phones without any of the Samsung overlay bullshit but there's not really any enticement to switch (nor any enticement to switch to a new iPhone, tho).

louise ck (milo z), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 22:30 (five years ago) link

I have a really, really basic Chromebook that's great for what it is but it doesn't have a fucking caps lock button (???????????)

flappy bird, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 22:36 (five years ago) link

maybe computers and phones are basically just this until they get superseded by things that render computers and phones obsolete. welcome to the information appliance age.

Paleo Weltschmerz (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 22:37 (five years ago) link

When my dad died I inherited his almost new iPad, this is the device I find most useless of everything I've owned. The screen's pretty but it's awkward to type on, more awkward to play games on than a phone, uncomfortable to hold for reading books.

Total found uses: drum machine+synth apps, reading comics. For something that probably cost $900 new.

louise ck (milo z), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 22:40 (five years ago) link

the apps for music making are a pretty compelling reason to get an iPad, though never for $900 imo... like, anything as much or less than an SP-404 makes sense.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 22:49 (five years ago) link

i have to use ipads for work (including keyboard covers) and they're just awkward. they need a flat surface to sit on, the keyboards aren't great at all for typing, and phones do pretty much the same thing most of the time.

calamity gammon (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 22:56 (five years ago) link

WHY DO YOU NEED A CAPS LOCK BUTTON

j., Thursday, 13 September 2018 04:35 (five years ago) link

it's important

flappy bird, Thursday, 13 September 2018 05:16 (five years ago) link

iirc i mainly use mine to see whether or not the caps lock light is on or off

j., Thursday, 13 September 2018 05:58 (five years ago) link

sometimes i turn it on for fun but then i turn it off right away

j., Thursday, 13 September 2018 05:59 (five years ago) link

I’m on the iPhone upgrade program so I’ll get a new XSMAX. I don’t think I have a need for 512 GB tho. Current have 256 and only use about 100 gigs. I don’t expect I’ll start shooting a lot of 4K video or whatever would fill that up.

Jeff, Thursday, 13 September 2018 09:36 (five years ago) link

flappy bird on my chromebook you can change the search icon button (which is where the caps lock should be) to work as caps lock (somewhere in settings)

niels, Thursday, 13 September 2018 10:30 (five years ago) link

How long reasonably can I keep my SE alive? I have absolutely no interest in any phones Apple made after and I’m frankly debating if I even want to continue with them period (I imagine if I get an Android phone I’ll immediately regret it).

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Thursday, 13 September 2018 11:58 (five years ago) link

ios 12 has done lots of performance stuff to improve older devices, but I'd imagine iOS 13 will spunk all that away.

stet, Thursday, 13 September 2018 12:19 (five years ago) link

Android is a non-starter for me; I should buy an SE just to keep as a backup just in case this one craps out and they refuse to repair it for love or money.

faculty w1fe (silby), Thursday, 13 September 2018 13:24 (five years ago) link

yeah I’m thinking of getting a spare se also and figuring I’ll be on iOS 12 until 2025, what else is a smartphone gonna do before then but stream #content at 69G

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 13 September 2018 13:59 (five years ago) link

nice

j., Thursday, 13 September 2018 14:22 (five years ago) link

Literally bought an 8 yesterday fuck

― gbx, Wednesday, September 12, 2018 4:07 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

So return it and ask for the new price?

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 13 September 2018 14:25 (five years ago) link

I keep thinking "this is finally the release where people sour on Apple" and then their stock price doubles again.

― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, September 12, 2018 3:51 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Speaking for myself but I can't help but imagine there are many other people like me: the thought of switching to another OS is terrifying/paralyzing. I have used Apple all my life. Used Windows XP when I was in HS but that's it. Ever since his death the company has totally stagnated and failed to invent or introduce anything truly exciting. I use Apple products but I'm not a super fan, like I couldn't care less about the watch. All of their products keep getting worse too, in different ways. But I can't switch.

― flappy bird, Wednesday, September 12, 2018 5:25 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I have trouble with this too. Also I imagine there are a lot of younger people who are just growing up used to wireless and don't care enough about the improved sound from the wired connection. Today's pop music is p much designed for shitty audio anyway.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 13 September 2018 14:28 (five years ago) link

are there good sounding wireless headphones yet? my dad gave me a very shitty sounding pair of pretty generic ones. I don’t want airpods bc the wired apple phones don’t fit my ears well; I love my 30 € sennheisers wired ones with rubber tips.

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 13 September 2018 14:32 (five years ago) link

The Sony MDR-1000X are among the best headphones I’ve ever had: but huge + pricey

stet, Thursday, 13 September 2018 14:43 (five years ago) link

I prefer earbuds but pricey isn’t necessarily a problem; thanks!

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 13 September 2018 14:45 (five years ago) link

The Sony MDR-1000X are among the best headphones I’ve ever had: but huge + pricey

― stet, Friday, 14 September 2018 12:43 AM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Also replacement ear pads are in credibly expensive., like $50 an ear and mine are getting somewhat ripe.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 13 September 2018 14:46 (five years ago) link

the apps for music making are a pretty compelling reason to get an iPad, though never for $900 imo... like, anything as much or less than an SP-404 makes sense.

― flappy bird, Wednesday, September 12, 2018 3:49 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I disagree with the part about not paying $900 for one. I bought an iPad Pro last year. It was a lot of money for me - it was a purchase that I considered for a long time, and so far I have zero regrets. There seems to be an endless supply of innovative music apps. It seems like every few months someone drops a new app that changes how I approach everything. The downside of this is that I feel like I am constantly in learning mode, but it has helped me get closer to what I consider to be the perfect workflow. The touch screen is perfect for music software - gets you closer to "knob twiddling" than using a mouse on a desktop. I also use it for drawing and there are some top notch apps for that as well. The biggest concern I have is that the device is going to be outdated before I feel I've fully gotten its value.

beard papa, Thursday, 13 September 2018 15:48 (five years ago) link

true. and the extra $$$ obviously justified by everything else the iPad can do, even if you choose not to use it. yeah, I've thought about it a lot, because a lot of friends of mine use them for music and they're super portable, powerful, and versatile. wouldn't mind getting one as a gift tbh!

flappy bird, Thursday, 13 September 2018 17:42 (five years ago) link

and niels thank you for the tip! yes, the search button is where the caps lock should be. i'll look around in settings.

flappy bird, Thursday, 13 September 2018 17:42 (five years ago) link

WHY DO YOU NEED A CAPS LOCK BUTTON

switch languages (when it works (which isn’t often))

calamity gammon (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 13 September 2018 21:13 (five years ago) link

How long reasonably can I keep my SE alive? I have absolutely no interest in any phones Apple made after and I’m frankly debating if I even want to continue with them period (I imagine if I get an Android phone I’ll immediately regret it).

this is exactly where i am

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 15 September 2018 01:03 (five years ago) link

I've been seeing a lot of eulogies for the SE lately. I hadn't realized it was so beloved, but it's understandable. It's the only smartphone I've ever owned, and none of the other ones currently on the market look nearly as appealing. My wife has the 8, which I find a lot less pleasant to use - the lack of a home button that actually moves when you press it and the lock button being in a less convenient place are two big drawbacks for me.

https://techcrunch.com/2018/09/14/the-iphone-se-was-the-best-phone-apple-ever-made-and-now-its-dead/

o. nate, Saturday, 15 September 2018 01:09 (five years ago) link

me too but, given the pattern, the problem is not how long you can keep it alive but how long apple decides (via updates) that you can't keep it alive. Even if they didn't render the SE obsolete, as such, it would still, ostensibly, be rendered obsolete by the fact that you can no longer use your favoured or most vital app. So buying a brand new SE to keep in case & for the future would just be a waste of £400, sadly.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Saturday, 15 September 2018 01:11 (five years ago) link

xpost

Heavy Messages (jed_), Saturday, 15 September 2018 01:11 (five years ago) link

i have an SE, got it back in dec 2016. i plan on holding onto it as long as i used the 3S (about 5 years)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcZZlQ4Tmrc (Karl Malone), Saturday, 15 September 2018 01:16 (five years ago) link

I hope you can because I have the same and don't intend to "upgrade" to another iPhone.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Saturday, 15 September 2018 01:21 (five years ago) link

yeah, i would still have the 3s if i wouldn't have lost it in the back of a cab on christmas day. i love the small size of the SE (and the 3s before it). the only feature of the new phones that i crave are the new cameras.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcZZlQ4Tmrc (Karl Malone), Saturday, 15 September 2018 01:26 (five years ago) link

I called my carrier yesterday and they said when Apple discontinues an old model and adds a new one, they usually buy up a ton of the old ones and mark the price down even more. So I didn't get an SE yesterday, but I'm sure I will before the year's over. My 5s is still in good shape at nearly 5 years old, but...just making sure.

WmC, Saturday, 15 September 2018 01:29 (five years ago) link

the problem, of course, is that iOS will continue to update, and there will be some hotshit new app that everyone has that requires the new iOS, and then installing it will make your ancient SE so slow it's almost unusable, despite claims from apple that the new OS isn't significantly slower on older phones. when i finally lost the 3s i was almost grateful because the new OS' had rendered it almost unusable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcZZlQ4Tmrc (Karl Malone), Saturday, 15 September 2018 01:37 (five years ago) link

the lack of a home button that actually moves when you press it

the moving home button was always the first thing to break for me. the fake haptic one has been incredible.

and the lock button being in a less convenient place

yeah this placement is balls. when you grab the phone and try to lock it, half the time you trigger the volume control instead/as well.

calamity gammon (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 15 September 2018 02:18 (five years ago) link

how do they not figure that kind of thing out during development

j., Saturday, 15 September 2018 02:59 (five years ago) link

Design by Annual Performance Goal

faculty w1fe (silby), Saturday, 15 September 2018 03:01 (five years ago) link

Maybe it lets them put all the buttons in one spot so they can waterproof that bit.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Saturday, 15 September 2018 03:05 (five years ago) link

My photos are littered with random screeenshots because of the daft relative palacement of the lock and volume up controls on the X. Which combination also happens to be how you take a screenshot on the X.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Saturday, 15 September 2018 03:34 (five years ago) link

Even if you can resist the hot-shit new app, the cold-shit old apps you love tend to eventually pack up if you refuse to update to the new iOS.

Alba, Saturday, 15 September 2018 09:05 (five years ago) link

iOS 12 has been great for increasing performance on older devices. I have it on an old iPhone 6 and it is a whole different experience.

Jeff, Saturday, 15 September 2018 14:41 (five years ago) link

Me too.

Alba, Saturday, 15 September 2018 15:43 (five years ago) link

iOS 12 definitely perked up my old iPad Mini 3.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 15 September 2018 17:48 (five years ago) link

Wow! That’s...unexpected.

Karl Malone, Monday, 17 September 2018 22:42 (five years ago) link

I’m a little concerned about edge swipe gestures conflicting with some of my synths- not gonna update just yet

cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Monday, 17 September 2018 23:01 (five years ago) link

Threaded notifications are fantastic, as is the ability to clear by app; it was getting out of hand before.

Any idea if you can add Siri shortcut to the control centre. I couldn’t see it but have loooked hard.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 08:41 (five years ago) link

I haven't yet got to grip with shortcuts, or Shortcuts, which confusingly seem to be two different things, but the latter seems like something that might be powerful. Never worked out how to get Automator to do what I wanted either; I am probably just too impatient and thick to do anything that resembles programming.

This is an amazingly, OTT-ly comprehensive write-up:

https://www.macstories.net/stories/ios-12-the-macstories-review/

Alba, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 08:55 (five years ago) link

But yes, have had beta OS12 for a while and it's been faster on my iPhone 6.

Alba, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 08:56 (five years ago) link

I had workflow (the thing Apple brought to turn into shortcuts) to creat an open in chrome button for safari but the new iteration seems to have some added features.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 09:06 (five years ago) link

Some of the precooked Shortcuts are not bad actually. Will play some more.

Oh wow - just noticed proper password manager integration at last.

Alba, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 09:40 (five years ago) link

in what respect?

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 09:42 (five years ago) link

lastpass, 1password etc can now autofill in the same way as iCloud Keychain. A big improvement for E. who uses a windows laptop for work and last pass for her passwords.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 09:45 (five years ago) link

You have to enable it in Passwords & Accounts section of Settings, so I didn't notice it at first.

Alba, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 09:54 (five years ago) link

ugh, just installed the newest safari on desktop & it de-installed ninjakit, which means my killfile on here doesn't work anymore. any ideas of other greasemonkey-like setup for safari? I don't want to think about using ILX without it.

droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 10:11 (five years ago) link

huh ok - i have 1password on my phone, and i've got "autofill passwords" on, but when i go to a website i don't see anything specific about 1password, it just looks like the normal iclould keychain thing

xpost

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 10:13 (five years ago) link

I have an ipad air 1 from 2013 that I never updated to iOS 11 – do you think it will cope with 12?

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 11:14 (five years ago) link

Yes, should get better, in fact

stet, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 12:00 (five years ago) link

Tracer, you may need to update the 1password app to the latest version. After that you should see 1password show up in the "Allow Filling From" section of Autofill Passwords in Settings.

Alba, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 12:37 (five years ago) link

it worked!

holy crap the augmented reality tape measure is amazing!

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 12:57 (five years ago) link

Siri Shortcuts seems to have a lot of potential. Best One I’ve used is using the City Mapper app, I can set up shortcuts for my favorite bus stops for the next bus times. It works on my homepod too, so I can check it as I’m walking out the door and then when I get to the stop just by initiating Siri and saying something like “northbound Sheriden and Surf”.

Jeff, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 13:56 (five years ago) link

The upgrade is good y'all, my phone is like new again.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 14:07 (five years ago) link

I wonder if they realized a bunch of schmoes like me were considering abandoning iphones altogether and figured it's better to keep me in the ecosystem with an old phone than lose me altogether.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 14:07 (five years ago) link

Incidentally this also fixed a major audio bug I've been having where music and podcasts stutter from time to time.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 14:08 (five years ago) link

i've been having that same problem with music, shit skips like a CD

flappy bird, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 17:12 (five years ago) link

Yep, all good so far with iOS 12. Think I'll switch to SIM only from next month and just keep the SE going for another year or two. You never know, there might be an 4-4.5" XE or smthg next year.

Slightly concerned at what my ScreenTime stats will say by the end of today. Anything fewer than 100 pick-ups I'd be ok with.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 10:24 (five years ago) link

Battery life on the X seems much improved by the update.

I’m in japan right now and Apple maps is beating google hands down, I assume this is what they have been working on.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 12:02 (five years ago) link

I'm getting very into Shortcuts now. Favourite tricks so far: being able to append to the clipboard, and adding a Spotify icon to my homescreen that starts playing the song I was last listening to in whatever playlist/album it was (this is particularly good for me as I have an old phone so Spotify takes forever to launch – nice to be able to just put the phone away once I've tapped and know that it will start playing music in a while!)

Alba, Sunday, 30 September 2018 14:42 (five years ago) link

The latter is pretty complex one that gets around Spotify's current lack of proper Shortcuts support:

https://www.reddit.com/r/shortcuts/comments/9h5aj6/control_spotify_with_siri/

Alba, Sunday, 30 September 2018 14:45 (five years ago) link

being able to append to the clipboard

how do I activate this

El Tomboto, Sunday, 30 September 2018 15:08 (five years ago) link

Install Shortcuts app, put Shortcuts in a prominent place in your share menu items, then open this link in Safari. https://www.icloud.com/shortcuts/dc56cf9ad5754adfb8132cd3aba32376

Alba, Sunday, 30 September 2018 15:49 (five years ago) link

It's 3 taps rather than the 1 for a standard copy to clipboard, but that sure beats switching back and forth between apps when you're pasting from multiple sources.

Alba, Sunday, 30 September 2018 15:52 (five years ago) link

thanks for that!

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 30 September 2018 20:44 (five years ago) link

i like how now i can measure things with my iphone and take of picture of it with the actual measurement

;)

awww yee uhhh

F# A# (∞), Sunday, 30 September 2018 20:59 (five years ago) link

i aint lyin baby iphone confirmed yo

F# A# (∞), Sunday, 30 September 2018 21:00 (five years ago) link

How do I use this exciting measure app? Can it do square feet?

sarahell, Friday, 12 October 2018 17:51 (five years ago) link

Okay so...iPhone headphone splitters. (Meaning, charging the phone and using a non-Lightning headphone at the same time.) I can't seem to make head or tail out of the eight million suggestions out there; practically every product has wildly diverging reviews everywhere I look and I trust none of them. (Belkin seems to be heavily loathed, though.) Any suggestions?

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 October 2018 04:52 (five years ago) link

xp it appears on the phone after iOS 12 update ("Measure") and you open it, point the camera at an object, move the phone side to side as it directs to calibrate, and then you align the sight on the screen with a point you want to measure, tap the button, then put another point somewhere else you want to know the distance to. It will use multiple points and you can add rectangles etc. for area measurement.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 15 October 2018 06:52 (five years ago) link

i picked up a shitty headphone jack/lightning splitter at Five Below. if it lasts a year I'll be happy with it.

Nhex, Monday, 15 October 2018 07:30 (five years ago) link

the current iteration of the ipod touch is m/l the perfect size for a small phone... tim cook please read this...

, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 03:04 (five years ago) link

we should all email him, what's his email

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 03:08 (five years ago) link

tcook@

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 03:08 (five years ago) link

TIM @ KFC.EDU

j., Tuesday, 16 October 2018 03:28 (five years ago) link

i've emailed him about the finder, icloud (i don't use this one, i'm not insane), quality control, and the mac being abandonware. he never replies.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 05:10 (five years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/YnHNMEy.jpg

that's an iphone 6 on the left. you can imagine it full screen, touch id or whatever. great phone! would buy!

, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 11:32 (five years ago) link

I had completely forgotten that the iPod Touch existed but, of course... it's the only iPod that they make any more and it's basically a thinner, lighter iPhone SE (sans GPS, NFC, voice/SMS capability obv). I'm sticking with the SE through to late 2019 at least.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 11:46 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

New MacBook Air: retina screen, fuck-all ports, headphone on the wrong side. Audience cheering like announcements of yore. Very different feel from the po-faced iPhone events

(Love these daytime events)

stet, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 14:14 (five years ago) link

‘fuck installing a port’, rants tim cook during unhinged press event

la bébé du nom-nom (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 14:17 (five years ago) link

NEWWWWWWWWW mac miniiiiiiii

stet, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 14:27 (five years ago) link

Wow, a LOT better price than I was expecting, and a nice improvement in general. Will likely order. (Especially given tariff murmurings.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 14:36 (five years ago) link

Still a price jump though, huh.

God stop talking about fucking Apple Stores I have meetings to get to

stet, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 14:40 (five years ago) link

It's a jump but the rumors were indicating some crazy massive jump that was having me rethink a bit. But this is fine from where I sit, at least.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 14:41 (five years ago) link

Really want a new iPad mini so glad to see it on screen. They usually silently kill old ones

stet, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 14:44 (five years ago) link

Although that new regular size looks megA

stet, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 14:46 (five years ago) link

might go for a mac mini + ipad combo

||||||||, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 15:39 (five years ago) link

I was hoping for news of a new iMac. Have to see if the mini is a suitable alternative

I am using your worlds, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 16:10 (five years ago) link

i'd like an ipad pro thank you

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 16:20 (five years ago) link

the least bad appple event in ages (not even that great, but new hardware)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 16:21 (five years ago) link

my artist partner is cautiously excited about Real Photoshop ON IPAD

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 16:24 (five years ago) link

Yeah i was thinking of getting an ipad pro

But for a non applefanboi i sure do have a lot of apple products

F# A# (∞), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 16:25 (five years ago) link

use case

https://i.imgur.com/LZmapQt.jpg

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:57 (five years ago) link

for the suicide-curious digital artist in all of us

la bébé du nom-nom (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 20:44 (five years ago) link

lmao

flappy bird, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 22:03 (five years ago) link

that's less plausible than the rooftop party from the Nintendo Switch reveal

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 22:14 (five years ago) link

i need a new macbook and/or mini but these prices are hard to justify

calamity gammon (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 06:57 (five years ago) link

Can the new MacBook Air run a big 4K monitor in clamshell mode?

droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 10:59 (five years ago) link

june 2017 ipad pro would almost be tempting if they'd bumped the price down. new ipad pro is 760 funbucks and the cheapest apple cover is 85 and that's only for the 8GB model

||||||||, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 21:30 (five years ago) link

new air is 20% too expensive

||||||||, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 21:30 (five years ago) link

too diffuse a range of products makes it too frustrating to min-max plus post-brexit weakness of the pound has pushed prices uncomfortably high. there's just no sweet spot, as far as I can see in the range

||||||||, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 21:31 (five years ago) link

if the new pro started at 128GB for the 760£ model and the smart cover 45/55£ worked then it might have been the_one

||||||||, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 21:32 (five years ago) link

apple has got to be taking the piss

calamity gammon (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 21:39 (five years ago) link

they've been holding off on revealing their real product line for like 5 years, it's all been just a gas

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 21:40 (five years ago) link

This is about the least exciting event I can remember. Whole thing felt very 5 years ago

calstars, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 22:33 (five years ago) link

i think we'd all like to go back to 5 years ago!

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 23:32 (five years ago) link

1. inflate price of all products
2. hide device sales

calamity gammon (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 2 November 2018 12:16 (five years ago) link

what does "inflate price of products" mean?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 2 November 2018 15:59 (five years ago) link

Sell hardware at higher profit margins

DJI, Friday, 2 November 2018 16:03 (five years ago) link

I'm kind of surprised there isn't, like, an SEC or GAAP requirement for a business that sells a consumer product to state how many units of that product it sells.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 2 November 2018 16:22 (five years ago) link

is there any evidence that apple are selling products at higher profit margins?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 2 November 2018 16:40 (five years ago) link

Apple stock down 7%, good job Tim!

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 2 November 2018 17:07 (five years ago) link

can someone convince me not to get an ipad pro

F# A# (∞), Friday, 2 November 2018 17:44 (five years ago) link

there's probably some starving children somewhere

j., Friday, 2 November 2018 17:48 (five years ago) link

I have owned an iPad and it did not change my life

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 2 November 2018 17:51 (five years ago) link

yeah that's the thing i don't even need it

ugh

basically i want to read comics on it, i don't want it for anything else, and i don't want to buy physical books/comics

F# A# (∞), Friday, 2 November 2018 17:53 (five years ago) link

support physical mediaaaaaaaaa

Nhex, Friday, 2 November 2018 18:09 (five years ago) link

ipad pro seems pretty big for anything except actual work IMO

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 2 November 2018 18:32 (five years ago) link

FWIW, my main book and comic reader is a iPad Mini 3. If I had to get something now, I'd probably get that $329 9" iPad. You don't have to spend iPad Pro money on it.

Physical media won't let me back it up in multiple locations and will be a big problem when climate-change enhanced fires burn all of California down. Portability and redundancy forever!

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 2 November 2018 18:36 (five years ago) link

I think the best way for me to die would be in a fire accelerated by my bookshelves, or crushed by them in an earthquake

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Friday, 2 November 2018 18:38 (five years ago) link

i want nice big text and graphics tho

i don't want to get old man eyes so soon

F# A# (∞), Friday, 2 November 2018 18:45 (five years ago) link

Physical media won't let me back it up in multiple locations and will be a big problem when climate-change enhanced fires burn all of California down.

It's the backing-up-in-multiple-locations thing that's causing climate-change enhanced fires tho.

Position Position, Friday, 2 November 2018 19:16 (five years ago) link

yeah that's the thing i don't even need it

ugh

basically i want to read comics on it, i don't want it for anything else, and i don't want to buy physical books/comics


lol same :(

la bébé du nom-nom (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 2 November 2018 19:28 (five years ago) link

My 10” Pro is rapidly becoming my main computer. Did all the work on the site from it this morning. I think I’ve used my work Mac for about 20 minutes this week, and that was to pull together a presentation from three other decks. (iOS still sucks horrifically at multiple docs in the same app)

stet, Friday, 2 November 2018 20:35 (five years ago) link

We've owned 3 ipads and I never found a use for them. My kids like it, which is another reason not to have it around.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 2 November 2018 20:45 (five years ago) link

For a company that prides itself on design, I actually don't find them comfortable to use at all. Any intensive tasks are much more comfortable to do on a laptop, and anything less intensive I'd rather just do on my phone.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 2 November 2018 20:45 (five years ago) link

It's the backing-up-in-multiple-locations thing that's causing climate-change enhanced fires tho.

FWIW, I'm not using the cloud. Follow-ups to Maintaining a Digital Music Collection

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 2 November 2018 20:51 (five years ago) link

agree with both man alive posts.

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Friday, 2 November 2018 20:53 (five years ago) link

I prefer reading comics on my iPad mini 3 to my iPad Pro 10.5”. On the pro, the scans get big enough that they suffer if they aren’t super hi res

Any iPad with a retina screen and 128gb or more of storage will serve u well as a comics reader imo

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Friday, 2 November 2018 20:54 (five years ago) link

For a company that prides itself on design, I actually don't find them comfortable to use at all. Any intensive tasks are much more comfortable to do on a laptop, and anything less intensive I'd rather just do on my phone.

otm, after that initial period of subscribing to magazines i never got around to reading there didn’t seem to be any point. maybe as they get close to being an actual macbook proxy for most people (now?) they’ll find a place for most people.

for me the clincher is not being to type on your lap without it all going everywhere. the smart keyboards are pretty solid but it’s still precarious.

calamity gammon (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 3 November 2018 01:15 (five years ago) link

I love the pro I bought last year, but I find I don’t use it as much as I’d like because I cannot use it around my 5yo.

beard papa, Saturday, 3 November 2018 17:22 (five years ago) link

re higher prices

calamity gammon (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 04:08 (five years ago) link

Apple's new iPad Pro seems to bend pretty easily https://t.co/EgHrG1iBEo pic.twitter.com/35RHNgO3SQ

— The Verge (@verge) November 16, 2018

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 16 November 2018 19:57 (five years ago) link

yikes

Spottie, Friday, 16 November 2018 19:59 (five years ago) link

tl;dr looks like the microphone and induction pad are in the worst possible places for that

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 16 November 2018 20:00 (five years ago) link

in messages conversations used to be in bubbles/rounded but something changed and they're all ugly squares now. anyone know how to change it back?

Mordy, Sunday, 18 November 2018 20:56 (five years ago) link

Preferences>bubble edge display>rounded

calstars, Sunday, 18 November 2018 20:58 (five years ago) link

weirdly not an option for me but force quitting / reopening fixed it. maybe i need to update to 10.13.6?

Mordy, Sunday, 18 November 2018 20:59 (five years ago) link

deeply regret installing mojave. constant freezing.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 19 November 2018 19:31 (five years ago) link

i'm sorry to hear that but thank you for reaffirming my decision not to install until i finish a very important project

btw, for ppl with touch bar MacBooks: mine froze the other day, and I had no idea what to do because there's no power button... there actually is, it's on the right end of the touch bar. it's there. maybe this is old news. i thought that was cool.

flappy bird, Monday, 19 November 2018 19:34 (five years ago) link

My new favourite Shortcut is Upload to Imgur. Handy for getting pictures ready to post on ILX, which I always found a massive faff on iOS before

https://www.icloud.com/shortcuts/c0c8520be8734d0faec0096b83c4703b

Alba, Monday, 26 November 2018 11:39 (five years ago) link

I like using the TinyPic keyboard for ilx image uploads. Uploads it and created the bbcode for you, all from zing.

Jeff, Monday, 26 November 2018 12:50 (five years ago) link

Ooh

Alba, Monday, 26 November 2018 13:09 (five years ago) link

Thanks alba

calstars, Monday, 26 November 2018 15:14 (five years ago) link

poor ol siri

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 November 2018 19:23 (five years ago) link

god i am still digging just having adequate memory and being able to leave programs and documents sitting open for days at a time

$ uptime
5:02 up 8 days, 3:48, 2 users, load averages: 1.32 1.79 2.14

j., Thursday, 6 December 2018 11:07 (five years ago) link

~dark mode is good now~

j., Tuesday, 11 December 2018 09:10 (five years ago) link

mojave is definitely the worst; really need to roll back to pre-update but scared to lose my computer for a few days

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 20:25 (five years ago) link

$ uptime
14:33 up 12 days, 8:15, 2 users, load averages: 0.76 0.83 1.00

woooo

j., Tuesday, 18 December 2018 20:34 (five years ago) link

Everyone I know has the stupid watch now so I guess I should get one too. But the only use I can see for it would be to see what song is playing

calstars, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 23:58 (five years ago) link

i literally know no one with an apple watch

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 01:36 (five years ago) link

I have one. I wear it sometimes. It’s best for letting you see who’s texting you without taking your phone out of your pocket.

It’s also great when you have your baby as the wallpaper and said baby always asks to look at it and starts thinking that everybody’s watch has a photo of her in it.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 02:26 (five years ago) link

My idea for the watch is to get the lte version, take off the band, put it in my pocket, and use it as a mini phone / music streaming thingy

calstars, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 03:26 (five years ago) link

what even is dark mode

flappy bird, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 05:33 (five years ago) link

It's for when you want to sound like you're doing something dodgy but actually aren't.

Alba, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 06:29 (five years ago) link

you can do dodgy things in it if you want tho

j., Wednesday, 19 December 2018 07:21 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

the thing about the apple devaluation and the link in that with people not buying so many iPhones now is that apple always (usually) made beautiful objects but now that a phone is all or only screen there are not many ways in which an iPhone is a cherishable object over something else that all or only screen, is there?

brokenshire (jed_), Friday, 4 January 2019 01:15 (five years ago) link

esp. in a case.

brokenshire (jed_), Friday, 4 January 2019 01:15 (five years ago) link

they could have had they come out of the gates with a notch-less screen

тпсбlack (Spottie), Friday, 4 January 2019 01:18 (five years ago) link

Yeah man, apple made some killer bezels back in the day

calstars, Friday, 4 January 2019 01:19 (five years ago) link

my SE as a thing to hold and have is better, more lovely imo, than an equivalent android would be but an XR is no different than something else that is only a screen. If it's only-screen then it's only a screen.

brokenshire (jed_), Friday, 4 January 2019 01:19 (five years ago) link

i’m still using an 8+ and i legit forget that it even has bezels.

the race to eliminate the notch is more interesting than the race to fill the phone face with screen imo. when the notch problem is solved once and for all, this era of notchy phones is going to look totally ridiculous.

calamity gammon (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 4 January 2019 02:00 (five years ago) link

Never want to upgrade from my 6s really. Although I did just order a mini headphone amp so that would obviate the need for the headphone jack around the house.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 4 January 2019 02:04 (five years ago) link

what is a "notch"

flappy bird, Friday, 4 January 2019 02:23 (five years ago) link

A kind of haircut, or a pattern of baldness, according to Samsung

calstars, Friday, 4 January 2019 02:31 (five years ago) link

extremely funny that their products aren’t as inelastic as they thought

lower your goddamn prices u xunts

there are no good podcasts (||||||||), Friday, 4 January 2019 05:36 (five years ago) link

and it’s incredible that they’re blaming everything except their own greed

calamity gammon (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 4 January 2019 08:25 (five years ago) link

Never want to upgrade from my 6s really. Although I did just order a mini headphone amp so that would obviate the need for the headphone jack around the house.

― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 4 January 2019 03:04 (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Which hp amp did you get?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 4 January 2019 09:29 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

tired: $3500 laptop with keyboard... issues
wired: $279 laptop that is spill proofhttps://t.co/kF3oHrImG0

— ZG (@zachgrosser) February 25, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 00:25 (five years ago) link

that looks... pretty good actually

Nhex, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 04:11 (five years ago) link

does it have a caps lock button

flappy bird, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 18:07 (five years ago) link

i had planned to buy a new macbook when i go to taiwan, but not with these fucking keyboards

seedy ron (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 19:57 (five years ago) link

It's extra annoying because Apple's current wireless keyboards are pretty great - can't you just put that keyboard in it, or merge the goddamn teams, or something...

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 28 February 2019 20:10 (five years ago) link

[tim cook walks onto the l train car with a boom box] pic.twitter.com/JJ6A3frSUb

— Caitlin Kelly (@caitlin__kelly) March 11, 2019

they fixed the finder

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 11 March 2019 19:53 (five years ago) link

lol

mh, Monday, 11 March 2019 20:41 (five years ago) link

what was wrong with the finder

j., Monday, 11 March 2019 21:15 (five years ago) link

excited for Apple TV TV

moose; squirrel (silby), Monday, 11 March 2019 21:23 (five years ago) link

glad I haven't needed a new computer in like 6 years

moose; squirrel (silby), Monday, 11 March 2019 21:40 (five years ago) link

I had a scare with my 2011 MBP yesterday. New system install seems to have fixed it. Thank goodness because the current Mac lineup sucks. I think I’d go Razer for my next machine if I had to buy one now.

DJI, Monday, 11 March 2019 21:54 (five years ago) link

I want to put OpenBSD on like a $300 micro-desktop

moose; squirrel (silby), Monday, 11 March 2019 21:56 (five years ago) link

I haven't had serious keyboard problems with the new MBP. If I did my assessment might be different. That said ...

All of these "I'm switching away from the Mac because of annoyances X, Y and Z" are hilarious to me. What other OS could you subject to that level of scrutiny without exceeding your HTTP POST limit? "Screen resolution could be a bit higher" but the plain ugliness of every other OS doesn't bother you?

lukas, Monday, 11 March 2019 22:28 (five years ago) link

Windows 10 is fine.

DJI, Monday, 11 March 2019 22:32 (five years ago) link

The windows subsystem for Linux is apparently at the level of polish/completeness where you can do real coding work I have a bunch of colleagues who do that.

Also even if you prefer macs right now; the other nice thing about windows is that it’s not abandonware, unlike the Mac.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 11 March 2019 23:15 (five years ago) link

WSL is pretty decent

mh, Monday, 11 March 2019 23:23 (five years ago) link

Linux itself seems bad tho

moose; squirrel (silby), Monday, 11 March 2019 23:33 (five years ago) link

I haven't used Linux on the desktop for at least the last 7 years of linux on the desktop but systemd and attendant revolutions in userland seem both inescapable and unpleasant

moose; squirrel (silby), Monday, 11 March 2019 23:34 (five years ago) link

I'm with Lukas, I've grown up using Apple and can't imagine using any other OS regularly. I used Windows XP at high school and have a Chromebook now, but beyond the most basic functions, I'm completely lost and not interested in spending any more time than I have to working on a computer that isn't running an Apple OS.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 04:36 (five years ago) link

is it safe to install Mojave yet or does it still suck?

flappy bird, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 04:38 (five years ago) link

well what happened to me was that i installed mojave at the exact time my c drive started failing. So i've since reinstalled mojave on the new hard drive and, it seems okay in its current iteration? ended up buying a new word suite cuz i had been using 2009 and it no longer worked. outside of that, i can't complain too much. it's a little slower than i remember macs being but aren't we all.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 04:42 (five years ago) link

I would like a cheap and light 12 or 13" portable with a decent keyboard and screen and battery, on which I can write latex and read and markup (often big, with graphics) PDFs. I don't care about the OS beyond those needs. I looked at chromebooks recently but apparently running latex is still so to speak "experimental".

My 2015 MBP is still running beautifully but I don't like lugging it around. iPad pro would be great if it could run latex natively and it was easy to index and search my thousands of pdfs on it : that's the size and weight and screen and battery I'd like, and even the "smart keyboard" is fine enough.

L'assie (Euler), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 11:58 (five years ago) link

Fuck w10 telemetry. I’m now looking again at hackintoshing

stet, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 13:27 (five years ago) link

Flappy , Mojave running fine for me

calstars, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 14:29 (five years ago) link

I used macs throughout my childhood and even wrote all my college papers on like, clarisworks. It kind of screwed me up when I had to start working in corporate offices that all used windows.

Yerac, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 14:33 (five years ago) link

MacBook Pro (13″ with Touch Bar)

screen is set to 1440×900 pt by default while the screen resolution is 2560×1600 px (1280×800 pt) — this means it’s not at 2x Retina, though this is probably due to battery life concerns

Oh shit I've had this thing for 18 months now and never even bothered to look at changing the screen resolution because I just assumed it was set to the largest value by default. I have so much more screen space now though I am old so it's kind of hard to read.

Also the amount of configuration I've done to override the stupid touchbar behavior and try to get it to behave more like the physical buttons I know and love is maddening.

joygoat, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 15:57 (five years ago) link

imo you don't want to use native resolution, but the default scaling is a little too big

the days of really wonky scaling where things don't look quite right are mostly over as long as you pick a resolution that's the right aspect ratio, though!

mh, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 16:12 (five years ago) link

I'm now reminded of my insane coworker who has a 20" 4k monitor that he runs native and sits like two inches away from the screen

mh, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 16:12 (five years ago) link

At work I just use the 13” laptop screen and run iTerm full screen with a large font size so I’m usually looking at one thing at a time, all the screen real estate I need

moose; squirrel (silby), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 16:17 (five years ago) link

I'd say you really just need a command line machine running tmux (or whatever people use now) and a second computer for web searching but tbh the font scaling is probably better in iTerm

mh, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 16:19 (five years ago) link

I would definitely have that setup with an iPad as my web browser if I were setting up from scratch but I’m not inclined to badger my boss into spending money to replace my perfectly fine computer

moose; squirrel (silby), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 16:21 (five years ago) link

Really tho I’d probably still run X11 bc window managers are easier for me to deal with than tmux, I just wouldn’t install a browser.

moose; squirrel (silby), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 16:22 (five years ago) link

macos command-line only mode isn't really useful, for sure

i'm nostalgically thinking about the times i'd be tweaking my x windows config or just not care about running a gui for a while and just run command line-only linux consoles. if all you do is talk on irc and play quake, it was more than good enough

mh, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 16:24 (five years ago) link

tbh i wasn't even using tmux, you could switch between linux consoles with what, alt+f1 through f8 by default?

mh, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 16:24 (five years ago) link

Yah. Still can!

moose; squirrel (silby), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 16:43 (five years ago) link

X11 is all Wayland now though

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_(display_server_protocol)

(it isn't, i don't think, not yet)

koogs, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 17:16 (five years ago) link

yeah, I think it's a bit optimistic to say that at this point

I haven't used linux on the desktop in a serious way for yeeeears though.

mh, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 17:24 (five years ago) link

dang maybe I should just get a Pinebook

L'assie (Euler), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 17:27 (five years ago) link

the last time i used linux for personal use was
about 15 years ago and it was a debian distro.
can't say i miss it.

i usually stick to macs, unless i'm dealing with
servers, which luckily i don't do a whole lot
of work on.

John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 17:33 (five years ago) link

yet you seem to be using a text editor with hard-wrapping instead of actual word wrapping to draft posts

word wrap is fine, most unix text editors have it

mh, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 18:30 (five years ago) link

At work I just use the 13” laptop screen and run iTerm full screen with a large font size so I’m usually looking at one thing at a time, all the screen real estate I need

― moose; squirrel (silby), Tuesday, March 12, 2019 12:17 PM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

me too but with a vertical tmux split.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 23:33 (five years ago) link

HVTN-704% tput cols
97

moose; squirrel (silby), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 23:41 (five years ago) link

that's my whole screen. looking at things side by side is for chumps!

moose; squirrel (silby), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 23:41 (five years ago) link

lol do you run lynx too

j., Tuesday, 12 March 2019 23:47 (five years ago) link

mh, the thing is some browsers i use are in a small
sandbox window, and i'm usually on a work laptop.

we trade laptops and use multiple screens here,
mostly for work. some nerds use it to watch
twitch streams.

i can't be bothered to setup every single machine
i am at before i start using it.

John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 23:59 (five years ago) link

yeah but what browser inserts linebreaks like that no matter how big the window is? Are you unable to scroll to the right? Idgi

moose; squirrel (silby), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 00:38 (five years ago) link

like upload a screenshot of what your browser window looks like

moose; squirrel (silby), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 00:38 (five years ago) link

lol do you run lynx too

― j., Tuesday, March 12, 2019 4:47 PM (fifty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sadly not as a matter of course, I'm not strong enough, and also I need to uh do web development, for my sins

moose; squirrel (silby), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 00:39 (five years ago) link

silby, no, i mean i have to resize everything,
including the browser, to fit everything
i need on the monitors. so instead of just
typing to fill the entire text area, i push
enter out of habit.

it makes things look neater when i write!
:-)

it's just probably a weird habit, but
does it really bother people?

John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 00:44 (five years ago) link

well it's like you're just asking
to get punked at least a little

j., Wednesday, 13 March 2019 01:30 (five years ago) link

forgive him
they were delicious

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 03:52 (five years ago) link

I think
it’s jarring
to read
text
like
that yes

mh, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 04:14 (five years ago) link

not in
one
of
those
books of
poetry
like
what
robert
creeley
writes,
though

though

john
jacob
jingleheimer
&c
is no
bob
creeley

j., Wednesday, 13 March 2019 05:27 (five years ago) link

E E Cummings morelike

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 06:09 (five years ago) link

what if a much of
a wrap of
a
word

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 11:53 (five years ago) link

New iMacs with 9th gen processors out today. Are Vega graphics worth the extra £450 though? And surprise! the SSD prices are utter filth.

stet, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 12:54 (five years ago) link

Probably not

A friend of mine dropped her iMac and now the whole computer is inoperable - a major downside of all-in-ones

calstars, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 13:19 (five years ago) link

Counter-argument is that if you empty a beer over your keyboard, you don’t fry the whole computer.

Luna Schlosser, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 13:46 (five years ago) link

My late 2007 iMac has finally died. Probably 80% of my computer use is on a MacBook Pro but I do like to have a Mac desktop around for photo editing, managing music, and streaming video via Plex. I usually don't like buying computers used but I'd like to keep the replacement well under $1000 so I've been looking at my options. 2014 Mac Minis are around $300/4GB, slower processor and $400/8GB, faster processor. Thinking of pairing one of those with a <$200 new 27 inch monitor. How bad are sub $200 monitors, considering I've been OK with a 2007 iMac screen for the last 12 years? Will a 2014 Mini run a Photoshop alternative (e.g. Affinity Photo) and process raw images reasonably well?

B&H has the new 21.5 inch 4K iMac on sale for $1100 right now but if I could get by OK for the next couple of years for half that price... I dunno.

early rejecter, Sunday, 24 March 2019 21:05 (five years ago) link

Why not just by a good monitor for the MacBook Pro, and an external disk if storage is an issue?

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 24 March 2019 21:07 (five years ago) link

Forgot to mention that the MacBook is a work computer that I don't have admin privileges for so can't install my own software.

early rejecter, Sunday, 24 March 2019 21:40 (five years ago) link

And between me, the wife, and kids, we need more than one computer in the house anyway.

early rejecter, Sunday, 24 March 2019 21:44 (five years ago) link

I think Ed's line of question probably leads to the right answer - just get some removable storage and a nice external monitor.

How bad are sub $200 monitors, considering I've been OK with a 2007 iMac screen for the last 12 years?

extremely bad. There is not a corollary of Moore's Law that applies to monitors.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 24 March 2019 21:45 (five years ago) link

we ran into your problem a few years back and did what you're thinking of. so we're now on our second Mac mini (the first went down hard, right on schedule after its AppleCare ran out) with a crappy monitor and we use it for device backups, uploading photos to dropbox, and managing the music library. That is literally all it does. While you could conceivably stay under $1000 for a similar package, I would advise caution (see above re: lifespan of our 2014 Mac mini).

El Tomboto, Sunday, 24 March 2019 21:50 (five years ago) link

2007 iMac screen likely better than most <200 monitors in the market. Spend a little more and get a dell ultra sharp.

dan selzer, Sunday, 24 March 2019 21:55 (five years ago) link

a 2011 mini w SSD and maxed out RAM is an extremely credible general purpose computer fwiw. it can't install mojave but there's little else it can't do.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 24 March 2019 22:53 (five years ago) link

Do you know what failed on your Mini, Tomboto? Hard drive or something else? Higher spec 2014 Mini and a decent monitor I guess would be approaching $700 -- at which point I can see me talking myself into just getting a new iMac for $400 more. Argh...

early rejecter, Monday, 25 March 2019 04:26 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

bought a new 3rd gen ipad air in lieu of the existence of a macbook with a working keyboard. it’s basically just the old pro with an a12 chip and two (not four) speakers, so it takes smart keyboards and 1st gen apple pencils. really quite impressed with it, considering the price jump to the current pro line. this is fine. massive jump from my ipad 3, which has been effectively useless for several years and is probably the dumbest thing apple ever made,

times 牛肉麵 (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 11 May 2019 00:05 (four years ago) link

Was that the first retina iPad? Man that thing was slow.

but everybody calls me, (lukas), Saturday, 11 May 2019 00:07 (four years ago) link

yep, that thing was a streak of absolute shit

times 牛肉麵 (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 11 May 2019 09:36 (four years ago) link

and 12 minutes later they release the ipad 4 with sufficient grunt to run the retina screen. total swizz.

times 牛肉麵 (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 11 May 2019 09:38 (four years ago) link

unbelievable that they haven't yet canned the shittest of all possible keyboards. so shit neither Samsung or Acer have copied it

stet, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 20:17 (four years ago) link

swipe keyboards are an improvement. i feel like i've lost a superpower when i have to use someone else's phone. though the autocorrect is still so bad. surely this is a good use-case for the kind of natural-language tech that powers Alexa etc? don't suggest words that make no sense?

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 20:21 (four years ago) link

Apple is renaming iOS on the iPad to:

iPadOS

🤯 pic.twitter.com/yRwIAaqW14

— Steve Moser (@SteveMoser) June 3, 2019

hahaha

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 3 June 2019 16:45 (four years ago) link

oh shit, gamechanger

Aspen Jortstein (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 3 June 2019 16:46 (four years ago) link

actually interested in this wwdc keynote for once

stet, Monday, 3 June 2019 17:00 (four years ago) link

I'm vaguely interested because it seems like a moment where something interesting *has* to happen?

although right now they're telling developers about how great their original streaming video content is going to be so we're not off to a good start

mh, Monday, 3 June 2019 17:06 (four years ago) link

multiuser TvOS is good. Goodbye Horrid Henry, Goodbye Gardener's World

stet, Monday, 3 June 2019 17:11 (four years ago) link

this is really starting at trundle pace for something that was meant to pack in a whole lot of shit

stet, Monday, 3 June 2019 17:14 (four years ago) link

I get that these talks are widely viewed outside of the developer community but ranting on about first-party app features on existing hardware without mentioning new APIs they're using seems like a complete waste of developer time

mh, Monday, 3 June 2019 17:19 (four years ago) link

I will never enable dark mode on anything and you can't make me

don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Monday, 3 June 2019 17:33 (four years ago) link

love how close to parody these presentations skew

mh, Monday, 3 June 2019 17:34 (four years ago) link

why stet? I'm exactly the opposite I will never disable it.

easy ball shooter (Spottie), Monday, 3 June 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link

not me! I'm a dark mode stan myself

stet, Monday, 3 June 2019 17:39 (four years ago) link

oh sorry meant silby!

easy ball shooter (Spottie), Monday, 3 June 2019 17:39 (four years ago) link

dark mode is essential it saves my eyes

easy ball shooter (Spottie), Monday, 3 June 2019 17:39 (four years ago) link

ok, the email masking stuff is good but more of a cloud service offering. nice to have it built in

mh, Monday, 3 June 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link

I just don't care for it, seems silly

don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Monday, 3 June 2019 17:44 (four years ago) link

I also have the system text size slider all the way to the left tho so apparently I don't care about my eyes in general

don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Monday, 3 June 2019 17:45 (four years ago) link

imo the best not caring about eyes would be using dark mode 24/7, even outdoors

mh, Monday, 3 June 2019 17:46 (four years ago) link

dark mode is good, it makes it like you are in a secret cave

j., Monday, 3 June 2019 17:59 (four years ago) link

If I'm gonna be in a secret cave I want muted warm light and like a comic book

don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Monday, 3 June 2019 18:03 (four years ago) link

iPad OS is fixing a whole lotta shit for me

stet, Monday, 3 June 2019 18:06 (four years ago) link

I also have the system text size slider all the way to the left tho so apparently I don't care about my eyes in general

Yeah. I like how much layout real estate you gain

calstars, Monday, 3 June 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link

multiple docs side-by-side is huge for me. And direct Lightroom import

stet, Monday, 3 June 2019 18:10 (four years ago) link

i don't like dark mode because it doesn't feel like an apple os. feels like windows or some shit like linux that i don't understand

flappy bird, Monday, 3 June 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link

Yeah DM meshes all my open windows into a black mass which looks great but makes it a little hard to distinguish them visually

calstars, Monday, 3 June 2019 18:17 (four years ago) link

NEW MAC PRO klaxon

stet, Monday, 3 June 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link

it's full of holes

don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Monday, 3 June 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link

RIP my iPhone 6.

pomenitul, Monday, 3 June 2019 18:22 (four years ago) link

some not-fuckin-around max specifications on this thing

don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Monday, 3 June 2019 18:22 (four years ago) link

anyway someone post it on the trypophobia thread

don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Monday, 3 June 2019 18:23 (four years ago) link

Do we have to wait til fall for these iOS update goodies?

calstars, Monday, 3 June 2019 18:24 (four years ago) link

Oh it’s my old G5 tower!

calstars, Monday, 3 June 2019 18:28 (four years ago) link

I like this new screen. I like wheels!

stet, Monday, 3 June 2019 18:31 (four years ago) link

well, they did it, they delivered a fuck-off video and audio editing machine

mh, Monday, 3 June 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link

Mac Pro starts at $6k

stet, Monday, 3 June 2019 18:42 (four years ago) link

$4999 for the screen, fucking hell, $5999 for the matte. And the stand is another grand FUCK

stet, Monday, 3 June 2019 18:43 (four years ago) link

how much for the Mac Pro wheels? HOW MUCH FOR WHEELS?

mh, Monday, 3 June 2019 18:47 (four years ago) link

curious to hear what the maxed out price is, i'm guessing 8999

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 3 June 2019 18:57 (four years ago) link

maxed out is going to be way north of that. the Xeon 28-core alone is $8k

stet, Monday, 3 June 2019 19:00 (four years ago) link

$23,999.

don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Monday, 3 June 2019 19:00 (four years ago) link

“Apple said that when a device is offline and sleeping, it sends out a secure Bluetooth beacon that can be detected by other Apple devices nearby, even the ones owned by other people. This results in a network that works to find lost Apple devices through a secure, encrypted, and anonymous signal relay.”
This is weird...widescale mainstream mesh

calstars, Monday, 3 June 2019 19:02 (four years ago) link

Looks like they finally have a solution in place of the online store saying “we’ll be back soon”

calstars, Monday, 3 June 2019 19:04 (four years ago) link

curious to hear what the maxed out price is, i'm guessing 8999

― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, June 3, 2019 1:57 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haven't done it for a few years but a friend and I would jokingly max out the top-end system on the website back when Mac Pros were a running thing with regular updates and, even without RAID you could hit $10k reliably

mh, Monday, 3 June 2019 19:07 (four years ago) link

That Minecraft VR demo though ...

calstars, Monday, 3 June 2019 19:08 (four years ago) link

yeeks

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 3 June 2019 19:34 (four years ago) link

SwiftUI will be such an improvement to my average, daily quality of life that I almost broke down.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 3 June 2019 20:15 (four years ago) link

page updated: https://www.apple.com/mac-pro/

so the weird expansion thing (MPX) is basically a way to throw the power connection for the video card along with more connection points to the bus on to the motherboard in a straight line instead of dropping more wires through the case and the card they're sourcing from AMD is using their specialty chip-to-chip bus, which isn't an apple-specific thing necessarily

no idea wtf Afterburner is, because "programmable ASIC" is general enough to mean it could do lots of things depending on what kind of basic instructions it allows. looks like their first-party video editing will be using some sort of API to interact with it, and it'll be interesting to see if they open it up

mh, Monday, 3 June 2019 20:20 (four years ago) link

xp I did shed some tears of sympathy for the iOS developers watching that. hope it makes life less bad, Elvis!

mh, Monday, 3 June 2019 20:21 (four years ago) link

Can you explain SwiftUI in terms a dyed-in-the-wool Objective-C/IB-before-storyboards relic can understand?

stet, Monday, 3 June 2019 20:53 (four years ago) link

from one screenshot it looks like declarative nested frames as code, ie the only way I can imagine actually ever learning to program a GUI

don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Monday, 3 June 2019 21:00 (four years ago) link

Gonna need to watch Platforms SoTU in a minute.

Meanwhile pls excuse stroughton smith tweet but MOUSE ON IPAD

Hello mouse support on iOS 13! It’s an AssistiveTouch feature, and works with USB mice. @viticci nailed this pic.twitter.com/nj6xGAKSg0

— Steve Troughton-Smith (@stroughtonsmith) June 3, 2019

stet, Monday, 3 June 2019 21:09 (four years ago) link

I’m getting this now I think; it’s really nice. Like having bindings back again, for one thing.

stet, Monday, 3 June 2019 22:35 (four years ago) link

my favorite part of any new iOS is the wallpaper

https://9to5mac.com/2019/06/03/ios-13-wallpaper/

calstars, Monday, 3 June 2019 23:43 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

pretty good business plan if you can actually swing it

mh, Thursday, 27 June 2019 21:16 (four years ago) link

“Sir” Ive lol

calstars, Thursday, 27 June 2019 21:22 (four years ago) link

OH you put the buttton HERE ...well let me knight yo azz just so the world knows where you’re from

calstars, Thursday, 27 June 2019 21:26 (four years ago) link

Every forthcoming article about Jonny Ive’s design genius and legacy should be required by law to include this photo pic.twitter.com/mAkpmDSBqC

— laura olin (@lauraolin) June 27, 2019

Simon H., Thursday, 27 June 2019 21:27 (four years ago) link

lol!

Shite New Answers (jed_), Thursday, 27 June 2019 21:34 (four years ago) link

Sir Botox.

Shite New Answers (jed_), Thursday, 27 June 2019 21:35 (four years ago) link

hockey puck mouse too

dan selzer, Friday, 28 June 2019 00:02 (four years ago) link

I actually liked the hockey puck a lot, once they added the dimple. I don’t think they’ve made a decent mouse since, come to think of it.

stet, Friday, 28 June 2019 00:05 (four years ago) link

Hockey puck was very cool

calstars, Friday, 28 June 2019 00:17 (four years ago) link

you all are crazy. always pointing in the wrong direction.

dan selzer, Friday, 28 June 2019 03:32 (four years ago) link

And super poor ergonomics!

DJI, Friday, 28 June 2019 03:45 (four years ago) link

Rumors and stories!

https://www.macrumors.com/2019/07/01/jony-ive-dispirited-before-leaving-apple/

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 July 2019 18:13 (four years ago) link

Wah

Little jony’s Departure meant zero to the stock price

calstars, Monday, 1 July 2019 20:41 (four years ago) link

Credibility of that piece a little undercut by that quote saying Ive built Apple into an HCI powerhouse

but everybody calls me, (lukas), Monday, 1 July 2019 21:55 (four years ago) link

Alexander wept, for there were no more buttons to remove

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 01:47 (four years ago) link

lol

calstars, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 17:05 (four years ago) link

we had a laptop in flames on our floor, one of the bad batch that they are recalling.

(it's a big floor, probably two hundred macbooks in total.)

koogs, Saturday, 13 July 2019 20:24 (four years ago) link

I may have to buy that rumored 16” MacBook if it’s not too insane $$$

calstars, Saturday, 13 July 2019 20:54 (four years ago) link

I had my battery and lower case replaced for free because of the battery issue

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 13 July 2019 21:13 (four years ago) link

Unfortunately the IT supplier that we use seems to have a different set of priorities and hasn't sorted out a returns policy as yet. People who have affected laptops, according to the serial number checker, have reported it but have been told to keep using the laptop until arrangements have been made.

koogs, Sunday, 14 July 2019 06:19 (four years ago) link

I had a 17" macbook pro (last model made) that spit out a puff of flame from its FW port one day. Apple called me and asked if I was injured (presumably to head off a lawsuit). I wasn't, but every last part of that laptop was eventually replaced.

Sassy Boutonnière (ledriver), Sunday, 14 July 2019 07:09 (four years ago) link

they don’t call it a firewire port for nothin’

one month passes...

I haven't yet seen an iPhone X or anything more recent IRL.

L'assie (Euler), Saturday, 31 August 2019 14:46 (four years ago) link

JUST UPGRADE THE SE U FUCKS

самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Saturday, 31 August 2019 17:04 (four years ago) link

amen

I still see the iPhone 4 IRL. we socialists are too poor for the fancy new tech. though the iPhone X is almost two years old now.

everybody has AirPods now though

L'assie (Euler), Saturday, 31 August 2019 17:08 (four years ago) link

What I've realised it's that most of them are cheap fakes though

Alba, Saturday, 31 August 2019 17:29 (four years ago) link

Is not it's

Alba, Saturday, 31 August 2019 17:29 (four years ago) link

ha around here that is probably true, I don't know how to tell the difference

they make you look a like a fool, that's for sure

L'assie (Euler), Saturday, 31 August 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link

They tend to be a bit fatter than the real thing. But I have to say my main evidence is just "there's no way all these people can afford £150 headphones"

Alba, Saturday, 31 August 2019 17:32 (four years ago) link

They were pretty ubiquitous in Manhattan back in April. Then again.... Manhattan

untuned mass damper (mh), Saturday, 31 August 2019 20:23 (four years ago) link

SE rulez, fools

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Saturday, 31 August 2019 21:55 (four years ago) link

Wow a whole show full of people pretending to be blind!

And next year, See++!

DJI, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 17:19 (four years ago) link

I want an Apple Watch with always-on screen f'real

stet, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 17:44 (four years ago) link

"I haven't yet seen an iPhone X or anything more recent IRL."

really? maybe because I live in SF but the X is ubiquitous as are the other ones.

akm, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 18:53 (four years ago) link

another year where no phones I can comfortably use get announced, I should put a new battery in my SE sometime soon

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 19:33 (four years ago) link

Trying to decide whether to trade in my too-large XS Max for an 11 Pro, or just to use my old SE that I bought for my son.

DJI, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 20:59 (four years ago) link

what do you mean 'comfortably use'?

akm, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 21:01 (four years ago) link

DJI that’s my plan

calstars, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 21:07 (four years ago) link

always-on screen is nice but multiple-day battery life would be nicer

times 牛肉麵 (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 21:09 (four years ago) link

xpost there was an article recently about the nyc MTA being tired of requests to retrieve airpods from the tracks (like, 20 a month).

Yerac, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 21:20 (four years ago) link

akm I got an iPhone 6 on release and it gave me RSI in my thumb tendons, when I have been touch typing for decades with no ill-effects. Permanent veto for larger phones.

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 21:21 (four years ago) link

I'm trying to think of a reason i shouldn't just pay £100 for new screen and battery on my SE and i can't think of a single one apart from the shitty front-facing camera

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 12 September 2019 08:17 (four years ago) link

it's happening...??!?!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 12 September 2019 11:04 (four years ago) link

It’s going to be iPhone 8-sized though? Too big imo. SE-sized but with edge-to-edge screen is what’s wanted.

stet, Thursday, 12 September 2019 11:58 (four years ago) link

Calling bs on that report. They’re still selling the 8, which is 4.7 “

calstars, Thursday, 12 September 2019 12:05 (four years ago) link

xpost, ah shit, didn't notice it'd be 4.7" :-/

willem, Thursday, 12 September 2019 12:10 (four years ago) link

my SE battery is shot and I'm tired of waiting to see if they're gonna release another small phone so I'm considering an 11 Pro... I would be fine with an 8 since it's relatively compact and all I really need upgrade-wise is 256GB of storage but they still want $700 for an iPhone 8, fuck off with that nonsense. An 11 costs that much!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 12 September 2019 14:04 (four years ago) link

The 8/128 is $499

calstars, Thursday, 12 September 2019 14:09 (four years ago) link

Apple isn't even selling the 8/256GB model anymore though... wireless retailers still have it, but want $700-750 for it. Anyone ever bought from a third party like eBay or whatever? Seems risky.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 12 September 2019 14:15 (four years ago) link

Been thinking of upgrading my 5 year old iPad - mainly to get bigger storage. Anything special about the new one? Or should I just go with a Pro?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 12 September 2019 14:22 (four years ago) link

I've ordered the 2019 AIR(with 10.5 screen) iPad for my kid yesterday. I'm expecting it to be fucking perfect for £450.

calzino, Thursday, 12 September 2019 14:28 (four years ago) link

wait - what's the difference between the iPad Air and the new regular iPad? so confused

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 12 September 2019 15:10 (four years ago) link

ipad air slightly bigger and has a better chip

prorogue mahone (||||||||), Thursday, 12 September 2019 15:12 (four years ago) link

f hazel in my neighbourhood you can get a new SE battery installed by a fella with a saggy waistband for about 40 bucks, which i think i'm going to do

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 12 September 2019 15:56 (four years ago) link

I got the regular 9.7” one last year and it works great.

DJI, Thursday, 12 September 2019 16:02 (four years ago) link

once you get your battery replaced, this case attachment for my SE has revitalized it for me and only increased the size slightly:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NVJ62FJ
Three days off one full charge! Only $30

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 12 September 2019 16:17 (four years ago) link

I have an X for work but an SE for personal. All the SE needs is portrait mode and it would be a game changer tbqh.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 12 September 2019 16:35 (four years ago) link

Tracer... yes, I thought about just doing a battery replacement for my SE (I am fighting the loss of headphone jack as long as I can) but my 128GB SE is so full it can't even take pictures because there's no space left! I need that 256GB upgrade. I'm poking around online today to see if I can find a reputable source for a new 8/256GB model.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 12 September 2019 18:05 (four years ago) link

Wow can’t imagine how I’d run out of storage on 128GB. Do you keep all your stuff locally stored?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 12 September 2019 18:15 (four years ago) link

all that vlogging takes some editing space

untuned mass damper (mh), Thursday, 12 September 2019 18:23 (four years ago) link

I take a lot of selfies!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 12 September 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link

But yeah, I've got about 100GB of mp3s and the rest is photos. Jumping to 256 will let me just dump my entire mp3 collection on the iPhone without worrying about what I have to leave off.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 12 September 2019 18:28 (four years ago) link

i'm on 64GB and it's fine but i do sync & delete my photos

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 12 September 2019 20:12 (four years ago) link

macbooks are so expensive these days too... my MBP is 8 years old. don't have space to sync & delete photos : /

prorogue mahone (||||||||), Thursday, 12 September 2019 20:13 (four years ago) link

I’ve managed to get by with a 16gb SE these past 3 years. I have a separate MP3 player so I don’t keep music on it. I transfer my photos off of it regularly and I don’t use many apps. Still I’m currently barely squeaking by.

o. nate, Thursday, 12 September 2019 20:15 (four years ago) link

you could probably buy a dozen 500GB drives for the same cost as a new phone. and you could put your Apple Photos library on one of them.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 12 September 2019 20:16 (four years ago) link

it's important that I have access to all my cat photos so I can work them into conversations while I'm out here in the world

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 12 September 2019 20:46 (four years ago) link

Check out Swappa for an iPhone 8; I’ve had good luck with them. New and used.

early rejecter, Thursday, 12 September 2019 23:47 (four years ago) link

thanks for the tip! I found a new-in-box iPhone 8/256 on Swappa, bought it, and now I'm living the dream of dumping my entire music collection onto it without having to pick and choose! and for half the cost of an iPhone 11 Pro. I can live without the sexy camera.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 02:06 (four years ago) link

Has Jeff posted lately? Wondering if we’re trading up to this sucker

I missed the shipping window to ensure I’d get it before a vacation but may do so on return

untuned mass damper (mh), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 03:52 (four years ago) link

The three-lens camera thing is pretty ugly

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 14:00 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

new MacBook Pro with physical escape key for Vim users

https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro-16/

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 17:39 (four years ago) link

Look at the max ram and hd in this thing. I don’t need it but I want it.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 17:55 (four years ago) link

it has a keyboard my god the misery ends at last

stet, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 17:59 (four years ago) link

that Esc key is gonna cost you

June Pointer’s Valentine’s Day Secret Admirer Note Author (calstars), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:01 (four years ago) link

cant believe they are sticking with the touch bar

de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:05 (four years ago) link

I can't believe that on that giant laptop they are sticking with a few TB3 ports and nothing else.

DJI, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link

I was cackling after reading that the only processor options are i9

Go big or go home, I guess

mh, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:33 (four years ago) link

8tb on a notebook is bazonkers, just give me an extra port instead

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:50 (four years ago) link

I could see the dudes I work near who have huge data sets, or maybe someone wanting to edit a bunch of video, using that much on the fly. But yes, 8TB built in is nuts

mh, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:18 (four years ago) link

at least they didn't update the 13" with a new keyboard, i just got one a few weeks ago :-/

gbx, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:52 (four years ago) link

i would take all of these bytes and love them and hug them and take care of them

j., Wednesday, 13 November 2019 20:20 (four years ago) link

that Esc key is gonna cost you

― June Pointer’s Valentine’s Day Secret Admirer Note Author (calstars), Wednesday, November 13, 2019

i mean... it'll cost you the same as the previous model, with better specs?

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 20:21 (four years ago) link

at least they didn't update the 13" with a new keyboard, i just got one a few weeks ago :-/

― gbx, Wednesday, November 13, 2019 11:52 AM

that's the one me and my 2013 15" are holding out for. 14" screen, new keyboard, three pounds and able to open on an airplane would be perfect

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 20:23 (four years ago) link

I'm tempted to trade in my iMac and MBP for the new one and finally settle down with just one computer I can take back and forth to work, but it's hard to think about giving up the iMac's sweet monitor

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 21:43 (four years ago) link

Wait for the desktop pro is my thinking
I need power to convert vaporwave flacs into wmv

June Pointer’s Valentine’s Day Secret Admirer Note Author (calstars), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 21:50 (four years ago) link

Depending on whether you need to trade in your iMac you can use it as an extra monitor

https://www.macobserver.com/tips/how-to/imac-secondary-display/

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 22:06 (four years ago) link

14" screen, new keyboard, three pounds and able to open on an airplane

*tears of joy*

mh, Thursday, 14 November 2019 14:48 (four years ago) link

I'm sad that the 5k iMac can't do target display mode due to.. a number of reasons

otherwise, waiting for someone to dump one of those suckers when the hardware becomes underpowered would be a great source for a nice display

mh, Thursday, 14 November 2019 14:51 (four years ago) link

this seems like a good opportunity to again complain that I can't use my LG 5K display to play a Switch on

lost IDM classics (lukas), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 02:21 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

how long til the 16 inch MBP shows up in the refurb store

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Monday, 23 December 2019 17:35 (four years ago) link

Finally had to throw in the towel on my cracked, shitty 6s. I got an 11 and have been using a dragonfly mini amp through a lightning to USB adapter to power my headphones. It sounds great tbh, unwieldy but the improved sound is worth it. The 6s didn’t work well with the dragonfly for some reason.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 6 January 2020 04:35 (four years ago) link

microcenter has the base model ipads for $260, and i'm tempted to get one just to stream basketball games while i'm making dinner or whatever.

circles, Saturday, 11 January 2020 20:57 (four years ago) link

Thought about getting the watch today
Don’t really have a use case for it
Maybe just keep it in my pocket without a wristband?
What is it good for?

calstars, Saturday, 11 January 2020 21:15 (four years ago) link

Very good at making you look like a dweeb while wearing it.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 11 January 2020 21:39 (four years ago) link

It’s nice for when you get a notification instead of pulling your phone out if your pocket to discover it’s a worthless message you can just glance at your watch. That and 2 year old kids love looking at pictures of themselves on it.

dan selzer, Saturday, 11 January 2020 22:09 (four years ago) link

it’s only really useful on your wrist tbh

babu frik fan account (mh), Sunday, 12 January 2020 00:42 (four years ago) link

how is it for porn

j., Sunday, 12 January 2020 05:04 (four years ago) link

having looked at such content on nearly every device imaginable, I must admit I have broken the trend and it’s never been viewed on my watch

I guess, worn on the correct wrist, it could track related activity

babu frik fan account (mh), Sunday, 12 January 2020 07:28 (four years ago) link

Thought about getting the watch today
Don’t really have a use case for it
Maybe just keep it in my pocket without a wristband?
What is it good for?


Why buy anything you don't have a use case for?

lefal junglist platton (wtev), Sunday, 12 January 2020 10:56 (four years ago) link

just to show the losers how it's done

j., Sunday, 12 January 2020 15:58 (four years ago) link

my iPhone SE is now randomly showing me the shutdown screen and not recognising my fingerprints. The Internet says this is probably because of a damaged 'flex cable' connected to the power button.

This ever happen to anyone else? Really don't want a new phone but I don't want to pay big buxx for somebody to fix that cable.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 17 January 2020 09:53 (four years ago) link

Sounds like you may not have a choice. Is battery ok?

calstars, Friday, 17 January 2020 13:19 (four years ago) link

Yeah got it replaced like 6 mos ago. Gonna see what the iSmash boys have to say

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 17 January 2020 13:41 (four years ago) link

My wife dropped her iphone SE a week ago and since then the display has been kinda wonky but still usable. The problem is also that since then, the phone won't connect to her iCloud account (hence no iMessages) - the phone just hangs for a while before diplaying an error message. Seems very odd since I can't see how this could be linked to a physical hardware issue.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 17 January 2020 14:30 (four years ago) link

they do security stuff based on the hardware, like Touch ID disables itself if it thinks it has been tampered with, in case someone's trying to hack the secure enclave. That's where the iCloud credentials are stored, so I could see a weird alignment of things causing that.

stet, Friday, 17 January 2020 16:49 (four years ago) link

I still have an SE for my personal non-work phone but my Apple buddy says a replacement is coming in March. Let me see if I can find a leak page.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 17 January 2020 17:15 (four years ago) link

voila:

https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/iphone-se/

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 17 January 2020 17:16 (four years ago) link

Calling the iPhone an iPhone SE 2 brings to mind the iPhone 5-style design of the iPhone SE with its small 4-inch display, but this new iPhone is expected to look more like an iPhone 8 than anything else. In fact, based on the rumors we've heard, this new device is going to be an updated iPhone 8.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 17 January 2020 17:19 (four years ago) link

Hmm.. iPhone 8 form factor. Kinda lame. I wish they’d keep the existing SE case. IMO the most ergonomic iPhone form factor and most attractive as well.

o. nate, Friday, 17 January 2020 17:22 (four years ago) link

Yeah the size/weight of the SE might be the biggest reason why people love it (incl. me):

SE
h 4.87” (123.8 mm)
w 2.31” (58.6 mm)
d 0.30” (7.6 mm)
weight 4 oz (113 g)
battery life: 13 hours (lol, I'm very lucky to get 8 hours)

SE2 (rumor)
h 5.45” (138.4 mm)
w 2.65” (67.3 mm)
d 0.29” (7.3 mm)
weight 5.2 oz (148 g)
battery life: 13 hours

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 17 January 2020 18:34 (four years ago) link

Seems like there’s an opening here for an Android manufacturer to scoop up some of Apple’s market share. The Sony XZ2 Compact is intriguing though still a bit too bulky.

o. nate, Friday, 17 January 2020 19:05 (four years ago) link

just want to be able to use phone one handed

||||||||, Friday, 17 January 2020 19:12 (four years ago) link

and fit it in my pocket. SE is ideal sized

||||||||, Friday, 17 January 2020 19:13 (four years ago) link

I thought apple was (again) in the habit of making products wants these days. come on tim

||||||||, Friday, 17 January 2020 19:13 (four years ago) link

otm

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Friday, 17 January 2020 19:15 (four years ago) link

they do security stuff based on the hardware, like Touch ID disables itself if it thinks it has been tampered with, in case someone's trying to hack the secure enclave.

This jives with my situation - a side-effect is that it wants my PIN every time

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 17 January 2020 21:48 (four years ago) link

talked to iSmash. they opened it up. it needs a new power button and flex cable. it'll take 3-5 days to get here and once it does they'll make the fix in 2 hrs. they're going to do it for £40, parts, labour, VAT included. they already replaced the screen and home button for free because it's been less than a year since they replaced the screen and they said it felt 'loose'. i love iSmash?!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 18 January 2020 21:34 (four years ago) link

se2 is basically the only way they're gonna get me to upgrade

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 20 January 2020 20:44 (four years ago) link

just give us an iphone with original SE dimensions, a current cpu, and 256gb of memory... jesus Apple this is not rocket science, your products are not sexy new tech anymore they are commodity hardware so get over yourself

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 20 January 2020 21:01 (four years ago) link

^

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 20 January 2020 21:12 (four years ago) link

yeah a year ago I sourced a used SE with 128GB storage and decided I am basically done with phones, there is little they could do to get me back in the game until this one dies.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 20 January 2020 21:37 (four years ago) link

JUST UPGRADE THE SE U FUCKS

El Tomboto, Monday, 20 January 2020 21:40 (four years ago) link

after claiming I was going to stick with 13" laptops at home I had a moment of weakness and bought the 16"

and after another moment where I thought "will I be sad for not getting the i9 in two years"...

babu frik fan account (mh), Friday, 24 January 2020 02:15 (four years ago) link

i was in the apple store last week and i picked up the Beats headphones and it pinched the shit out of my finger. I am never touching them again.

Yerac, Friday, 24 January 2020 02:19 (four years ago) link

i couldn't get the skin of my finger out and I was trying to play it off like they weren't attached to my hand.

Yerac, Friday, 24 January 2020 02:21 (four years ago) link

I moved some office equipment without properly disassembling it last year, like an idiot, and pinched the palm of my hand in something heavy. After lots of mumbling "ow ow ow" I got it down and ended up ripping off a chunk of skin :(

babu frik fan account (mh), Friday, 24 January 2020 03:06 (four years ago) link

after claiming I was going to stick with 13" laptops at home I had a moment of weakness and bought the 16”


it me

I’d really prefer something lighter and more airplane-friendly but I couldn’t wait much longer and didn’t want to be checking apple rumors daily for the next few months.

upside: the new keyboard is good, the new speakers are great, and after a surreal and maddening week with Apple support the Bluetooth just spontaneously fixed itself

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 24 January 2020 16:05 (four years ago) link

it is a bit large, but not chonky

babu frik fan account (mh), Friday, 24 January 2020 16:25 (four years ago) link

it's thinner and lighter than my 2013 15", so hey, progress. plus it can reliably wake from sleep without being plugged in.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 24 January 2020 19:21 (four years ago) link

I would love to purchase an iChonk apple product.

Yerac, Friday, 24 January 2020 19:57 (four years ago) link

homepod might qualify tbh

babu frik fan account (mh), Friday, 24 January 2020 20:09 (four years ago) link

round boi

babu frik fan account (mh), Friday, 24 January 2020 20:09 (four years ago) link

stout lad

babu frik fan account (mh), Friday, 24 January 2020 21:55 (four years ago) link

i wanted one of those so badly in college ^^^. My writing all my papers on clarisworks era.

Yerac, Friday, 24 January 2020 22:24 (four years ago) link

audio seems a little punchy after close range but the speakers on this new mbp are ridiculous

babu frik fan account (mh), Saturday, 25 January 2020 04:17 (four years ago) link

at close range, rather

babu frik fan account (mh), Saturday, 25 January 2020 04:17 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

sudo nvram StartupMute=%00

stet, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 15:59 (four years ago) link

ha, my laptop is so old (because it's better than what they sell now) that i had no idea that sound had gone away until i saw that do the rounds.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 20:08 (four years ago) link

Still rocking the Q3 2014 mbp that I got as a hand-me-down at work and loving it! It's pretty maxed-out and every once in awhile my mind boggles at how much the 1tb SSD must have cost them back then.

Dan I., Wednesday, 26 February 2020 20:51 (four years ago) link

oh uh but I turned that startup chime off a long time ago--even though sometimes it sounds anyway, apparently at random?

Dan I., Wednesday, 26 February 2020 20:55 (four years ago) link

Yeah same (well Q1 2015 when it was on clearance lol)...

I got one for home to match it.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 21:04 (four years ago) link

you know they're portable, right?

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 21:15 (four years ago) link

never do workplace stuff on your home computer or vice versa!

good way for them to claim property rights :/

mh, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 21:27 (four years ago) link

no way!

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 21:28 (four years ago) link

(xp)

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 21:28 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

is this a good thread for asking about buying a new vs. refurbished (by apple or others) macbook ? can post this elsewhere if that’s advisable:

my 2011 macbook pro recently gave out on me and i can’t find anybody who’s willing to even attempt fixing it. so it looks like i need something new.

it looks like ebay has a number of offerings in the 400 - 800 dollar range of macbook pros 2012 -2017. lots of these sellers offer 1 year warranties. can they be trusted ?

a friend has a brand spanking new macbook. no usb ports and a confusing keyboard sort of. i don’t want that, do i ?

is there a particular year, a vintage if you will, of macbooks that is particularly reliable / desirable / durable / unfussy ?

is there a particular online RETAILER, a dependable, trustworthy purveyor of secondhand macs ?

i’m not a graphic designer, a gamer, a tech person. mostly my computer is my interface for large digital music collection, a place to actually type long form things, a way to interact with the internet, also DAW. i’m hopelessly wedded to macbook life, i doubt you could persuade me to leave the cult.

any advice greatly appreciated.

also i’m so sick of looking at ilx on my phone and i need to be keeping up with the sun ra thread ! help !

budo jeru, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 03:03 (four years ago) link

would you consider a macbook air? way cheaper and doesn't sound like you need a ton of ram or processing power. you can pick up a ~2015 macbook air for like, idk, prob somewhere in the 350-500 range probably?

Clay, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 03:34 (four years ago) link

i’m sure they’re fine but i notice a huge difference bw a 13”
screen and 15” (what i’m after), especially for watching movies etc. plus the disc drive is indispensable, altho i spose i could get an external one.

budo jeru, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 03:39 (four years ago) link

i’m not averse to spending up to, say, 1500 mind

just wondering if there isn’t a better way — seems to me like some of the very newer models might be unintuitive and i worry about increased planned obsolescence. this is my aversion to the new(er), not necessarily the price, although i admit i’m rather uninformed

budo jeru, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 03:43 (four years ago) link

went through this recently and opted for new. MacBooks hold their value so well that I couldn’t justify used on a dollar basis, and other than saying farewell to a few apps I wasn’t using the transition has been seamless.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 18:31 (four years ago) link

i was not able to get a look at the newer models before i decided, but their various goofy design/feature choices made me ultimately decide that the apparent modest performance boost some of them might have had, plus the necessarily longer support life from being introduced later in new lines, were not enough to outweigh the recent mb air i bought refurbished straight from apple's site.

and what do you know, i regularly use all three data ports at the same time that i'm drawing ac power, so, i'm happy with my choices.

i have once or twice missed the disc drive but not so much that it mattered. once i turned on my old laptop just so i could watch a movie from a dvd.

j., Tuesday, 17 March 2020 23:25 (four years ago) link

not now, apple

stet, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 13:33 (four years ago) link

any experiences buying refurbished from ebay / amazon / online or local tech reseller ?

budo jeru, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 20:22 (four years ago) link

okay, might actually have to get an i5 macbook air. kind of on the fence about whether to get more ram or storage.

circles, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 01:39 (four years ago) link

I think I'm getting mentally close to ditching my 10 year old MBP for a new model. Ars Technica review thinks new 16" MBP is overkill for casual users (such as me) but OTOH having spent so many years with a 15" screen I can't imagine being comfortable with a 13" Mac Air.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 27 March 2020 10:36 (four years ago) link

I got a “renewed” iPad Pro from amazon that was basically like new.

I can’t speak to eBay but I bought a 2013 15 inch MBP secondhand in 2016 and it’s fast and handles the newest OS just fine. I’m not a power user but Adobe Suite is still quick. I’d recommend any of the 15 inch MBPs since 2013 up until they started futzing with the keyboard. The only difference I’ve noticed is that the 2013 model can’t work as a second screen with an iPad unless you buy one of the non-apple apps

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 27 March 2020 10:49 (four years ago) link

In other words, consumers who liked the iPhone SE because they felt the iPhone 6S was too big will be disappointed, but they’ll still probably get a modern Apple processor in a phone that is markedly smaller than the current flagships.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 3 April 2020 21:37 (four years ago) link

come on, come on

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 3 April 2020 21:42 (four years ago) link

Would buy

calstars, Friday, 3 April 2020 22:22 (four years ago) link

The reason I got an SE was because I didn't like the iPhone 8, so I really don't see the point of this.

o. nate, Saturday, 4 April 2020 02:01 (four years ago) link

It’ll be $300 cheaper than the cheapest iPhone
It’ll have a home button and long ass battery life
Nuff said ?

calstars, Saturday, 4 April 2020 02:16 (four years ago) link

I mean if it's best I can find, I'll buy it, even though I really don't like the button that doesn't click when you press it, or the location of the power switch, or how big it is. I'm still holding out hope someone will come out with a smaller phone before I need to buy a new one.

o. nate, Saturday, 4 April 2020 02:18 (four years ago) link

I’m not getting any phones bigger than my actual SE, which I guess I’m going to have to keep using another 40 years, or else give up on smartphones. Which would be no sweat if it weren’t for maps and iMessage.

silby, Saturday, 4 April 2020 02:45 (four years ago) link

button go click

mh, Saturday, 4 April 2020 13:02 (four years ago) link

I'm a simple man with simple needs.

o. nate, Sunday, 5 April 2020 02:07 (four years ago) link

I've resisted adapting to new kinds of smartphones since they invented smartphones, I don't really understand being resistant to such a degree that you would literally just cling to dying hardware rather than teach yourself some new tricks / tolerate a dongle / get used to a slightly bigger screen

El Tomboto, Sunday, 5 April 2020 03:45 (four years ago) link

I have both new (X) and old (SE) phones and I simply prefer the SE design. shrug.ascii.art

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 5 April 2020 03:57 (four years ago) link

I tried adapting to a bigger screen when the 6 came out. Hurt my hand. Went to the SE as soon as that came out. I don’t care to try again.

silby, Sunday, 5 April 2020 03:57 (four years ago) link

I’m a small-handed individual and I don’t need a phone to be any bigger than this.

silby, Sunday, 5 April 2020 03:58 (four years ago) link

otm all of you. I don't need the phone to be any more capable than this, either, at present.

The industrial design of the 6 onward is pretty repulsive, sucked lozenges and camera warts.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Sunday, 5 April 2020 04:19 (four years ago) link

The iPhone 9 (that's what I think it will be called) has been rumoured for months now. It's little more than an iPhone 8 with a spec bump. The 8 will probably only get iOS updates for another three years so Apple doesn't want to sell it much longer. The main upgrade will likely be an A13 processor - same as the current iPhone 11 series. Other than that, just minor updates, perhaps slight improvements to reception, battery life, and the camera. The nice rose gold color option is expected to be dropped. I'm guessing the high-gloss finish will be replaced by the dull glass back as on the 11 series, which will make the Apple Store staff happy. Pricing may be about $50 or £50 less than the 8 too.

I hope they don't call it the SE or SE 2; this is in no way a successor to the iPhone SE. It was nice that it was relatively cheap, but people bought it because it was small and light. I've long been hoping Apple would give us something close to SE size but with a iPhone X/11 type screen that filled the available space with only tiny bezels, but that hope has all but flickered out. At least the smallest version of the upcoming iPhone 12 is rumoured to be smaller than the 11 Pro, with a 5.4" down from 5.8". The feature set will be more like the non-Pro iPhone 11 though, but with an OLED screen and 5G. These were supposed to be launched in autumn as usual, but of course the covid-19 outbreak may cause delays or dropped features.

Lee626, Sunday, 5 April 2020 05:00 (four years ago) link

if these rumours are true, it's an affront to the SE name

suggesteban buttez (||||||||), Sunday, 5 April 2020 06:45 (four years ago) link

https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/15/21221918/iphone-se-announcement-apple-price-specs-release-date-features

Apart from the size this looks amazingly good

stet, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 16:22 (four years ago) link

fine I guess

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 16:23 (four years ago) link

I hated the size of the 8... but still, I ordered this. sigh

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 16:31 (four years ago) link

yes, a phone we can all learn to love resenting

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 16:32 (four years ago) link

sold

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 16:41 (four years ago) link

imagine reading this offhand aside six months ago

The SE’s lower cost and Touch ID sensor may have slightly more appeal than usual, especially as people realize that they’ll be wearing masks more often.

He is married to Brogmus, Linda. (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 16:50 (four years ago) link

fuck your too big, no headphone jack having phone

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 16:59 (four years ago) link

4.7" fuck of

silby, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 18:02 (four years ago) link

if my actual SE dies completely I'm replacing it with another one off eBay. I should probably buy one now and put it in the freezer.

silby, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 18:02 (four years ago) link

probably will end up having to get the watch just to get a thing that's not too big for my widdle hands

silby, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 18:03 (four years ago) link

i don't want something that's too big for my pockets! this thing fits perfectly in the whatchamacallit front jean watch pocket and i don't wanna put it in my rear pocket where I'll sit on it or my front pocket where it will jab my balls

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 18:08 (four years ago) link

i have the max and love the massive size. doesnt turn sideways in my front pocket

Spottie, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 18:11 (four years ago) link

but my balls!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 18:12 (four years ago) link

the max will protect them

Spottie, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 18:13 (four years ago) link

i am not seeing this feature on the website

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 18:16 (four years ago) link

Face ID no work with maskies

calstars, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 20:41 (four years ago) link

how can I trade in my old phone (given all retail outlets closed)?

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 21:14 (four years ago) link

If you’re buying from Apple they typically give you a grace period on trade-in, or at least they did on my plan. I think most companies will — they just send you a padded box/envelope to return the old phone

mh, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 21:21 (four years ago) link

the back of my SE is pretty scratched up. not deep gouges or anything, just surface level scratching from being thrown onto tables etc. think I'll get away with saying it's in good condition?

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Thursday, 16 April 2020 11:02 (four years ago) link

probably just sell it on ebay. think post offices still open

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Thursday, 16 April 2020 11:10 (four years ago) link

Mine is already earmarked (sans SIM card) for my 11-year-old

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 16 April 2020 11:20 (four years ago) link

could maybe pick up an 11-year-old on ebay and go down that route instead

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Thursday, 16 April 2020 11:35 (four years ago) link

check the returns policy

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 16 April 2020 11:37 (four years ago) link

hey it’s a sucked lozenge with a camera wart, surprise

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 16 April 2020 11:37 (four years ago) link

if you're buying a new phone, Apple will give you a $130 credit for an iPhone 7, but only $30 for the SE lololol

calstars, Thursday, 16 April 2020 17:51 (four years ago) link

I will double that offer tbh

stet, Thursday, 16 April 2020 21:07 (four years ago) link

Interesting that they've brought back the flat metal sides found on the iPhone 5 (and original SE) for the iPad Pro. Rumor has it they may also feature on the next flagship iPhone model. Meanwhile the new SE gets the rounded sides.

o. nate, Friday, 17 April 2020 01:47 (four years ago) link

the whole point of the SE is to put updated specs in a form that they know well and have been cranking out for years.

Spottie, Friday, 17 April 2020 03:20 (four years ago) link

the whole point of the SE is to put updated specs in a form that they know well and have been cranking out for years.
you don’t say!

ncxkd, Friday, 17 April 2020 03:44 (four years ago) link

wasnt sure if o nate was serious

Spottie, Friday, 17 April 2020 03:49 (four years ago) link

Pickup:
Apple Store Pickup is currently unavailable

Delivery:
Currently unavailable

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 17 April 2020 08:43 (four years ago) link

:(

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 17 April 2020 08:43 (four years ago) link

ah I see it:

Pre-order from 1:00 pm on 17.04.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 17 April 2020 08:44 (four years ago) link

what size you going for TH?

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Friday, 17 April 2020 09:36 (four years ago) link

i'm getting the biggest one - i always fool myself that i don't need the space and i always do

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 17 April 2020 10:14 (four years ago) link

Only one size this time

ncxkd, Friday, 17 April 2020 11:46 (four years ago) link

Oh you mean storage

ncxkd, Friday, 17 April 2020 11:47 (four years ago) link

indeed!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 17 April 2020 11:47 (four years ago) link

I'm ordered the smallest one in protest.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 17 April 2020 15:24 (four years ago) link

"could maybe pick up an 11-year-old on ebay and go down that route instead"

ebay closed it's child trafficking category

akm, Friday, 17 April 2020 15:30 (four years ago) link

Got the red 128

ncxkd, Friday, 17 April 2020 15:31 (four years ago) link

I've never done the pay monthly thing but it seems there are no interest charges?? Tempting to pay 20 a month rather than full whack all at once

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 17 April 2020 16:08 (four years ago) link

Of course what happens when I break it in month 10 is another story but if I get AppleCare that should be fine..

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 17 April 2020 16:09 (four years ago) link

they've reengineered the payment plans and I think, unless you are getting a deal with your carrier where you're getting some bonkers deal, it's worth buying direct from apple

hell, right now you might be able to double-dip by getting their virtual credit card and then just not paying the bill for a few months during the virus

mh, Friday, 17 April 2020 16:11 (four years ago) link

AT&T US has the promo as $5 x 30mos. (+ $30 activation fee & tax on MSRP) for the 64GB...

The 256GB is $15 x 30mos. + above.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 17 April 2020 16:15 (four years ago) link

Lol USA

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 April 2020 16:17 (four years ago) link

Ack, the catch for the 64GB promo is "requires new line", existing customers looks like $10 x 30mos iirtc.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 17 April 2020 16:24 (four years ago) link

everything being some sort of haggling car sales transaction is tiring

at least now you can buy a phone, pick a provider, and just connect A to B even if you're not getting the absolute best price

I found it really telling that one car salesperson I dealt with years ago had formerly been a cell phone salesperson. The other guy I bought a car from later became a realtor. My head hurts.

mh, Friday, 17 April 2020 16:25 (four years ago) link

I have no idea how hardware/provider pairings work. I still have my old 5s hanging around, bought from Consumer Cellular. Can anyone who buys it use it with their sim card?

herds of unmasked cletuses (WmC), Friday, 17 April 2020 16:36 (four years ago) link

truly insane country.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 April 2020 17:32 (four years ago) link

which one are you from, again

mh, Friday, 17 April 2020 17:58 (four years ago) link

The one that claps

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 April 2020 18:43 (four years ago) link

good answer tbh

mh, Friday, 17 April 2020 18:51 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGYymiFcEQ8

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 17 April 2020 21:44 (four years ago) link

I have no idea how hardware/provider pairings work. I still have my old 5s hanging around, bought from Consumer Cellular. Can anyone who buys it use it with their sim card?

― herds of unmasked cletuses (WmC), Friday, April 17, 2020 12:36 PM (six hours ago)

Likely only on AT&T or T-Mobile (or other GSM carriers), as Consumer Cellular uses their networks, and back then iPhones sold by those carriers didn't work on CDMA-based carriers like Verizon or Sprint. Also, you'll need to have CC unlock it first, which shouldn't be a problem if you've fulfilled the original typically 2-year contract.

See here for differences between 5s models; I'm guessing yours is the A1533 (GSM) - https://www.techwalls.com/iphone-5s-a1533-a1453-a1457-a1530-differences

Lee626, Friday, 17 April 2020 23:04 (four years ago) link

I did it. probably stupid to pay an extra £100 for the 256GB but ehhhh fuck it. paying monthly makes the difference feel negligible. hotly anticipating now :)

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 18 April 2020 10:32 (four years ago) link

will this thing shot 5G

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Monday, 20 April 2020 18:42 (four years ago) link

Nope

ncxkd, Monday, 20 April 2020 18:51 (four years ago) link

RIP 2 me

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Monday, 20 April 2020 18:57 (four years ago) link

unless you're within like three blocks of a 5g tower it's not going to do you any good anyway

mh, Monday, 20 April 2020 19:23 (four years ago) link

Apparently mine is coming tomorrow!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 23 April 2020 22:27 (four years ago) link

Unboxing video ftw

ncxkd, Thursday, 23 April 2020 22:28 (four years ago) link

well it feels absolutely massive compared to my previous SE but i'm sure i'll get used to it. nice and thin is a bit of compensation i guess.

the process of switching from an old iPhone to a new one is pretty wild now. there's a kind of swirly circular QR code on the new phone that you line up in the camera of the old one, and then it starts transferring stuff.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 24 April 2020 10:49 (four years ago) link

What colour did you get?

stet, Friday, 24 April 2020 11:09 (four years ago) link

black. they all have black bevels so black's the only one that looks right to me. the others look a bit like you've added a decal wrap to the back or something. actually transferring /updating is taking FOREVER.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 24 April 2020 11:16 (four years ago) link

mine is out for delivery

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Friday, 24 April 2020 11:33 (four years ago) link

I bought an 8 plus exactly a year ago because I wanted the button and didn’t like the X - I can get $250 trade in for it now so one of these would be $150 out of pocket. My battery life isn’t shitty yet but is getting lower. Is it worth it? I imagine my trade in value will be significantly lower 12 months from now.

joygoat, Friday, 24 April 2020 19:02 (four years ago) link

I’d say yes, for a fresh battery, better camera, more RAM and faster chip. As long as you don’t mind the smaller display size

calstars, Friday, 24 April 2020 19:49 (four years ago) link

i loved my original SE but god it's easier to read things on the new one.

photos are incredible.

i does feel like it's always about to squirt out of my hands, though. and i can't believe they don't include a headphone adapter! fuck's sake.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 24 April 2020 20:17 (four years ago) link

re: size, i can juuuuuuust stretch my thumb up to the back button on ILX so i'm good.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 24 April 2020 20:17 (four years ago) link

In zing? You can just swipe from the far left to the right. No need to reach for the back button.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 24 April 2020 21:04 (four years ago) link

uh uh UH MUH GUH

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 24 April 2020 21:05 (four years ago) link

That works in almost all apps with an idea of “back” btw

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 24 April 2020 21:06 (four years ago) link

and now I understand why!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 24 April 2020 21:32 (four years ago) link

There’s also a system setting (called Reachability iirc) which lets you double tap Home to slide the top of the screen down within reach

stet, Friday, 24 April 2020 21:36 (four years ago) link

mark me as another who was happy to just learn that

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 24 April 2020 21:41 (four years ago) link

why is it so slidy

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Saturday, 25 April 2020 06:04 (four years ago) link

bring back matte backs

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Saturday, 25 April 2020 06:05 (four years ago) link

finally caught my iphone xr squirming off the table the other day. this piece of shit absolutely cannot wait to fall off any object it’s currently on.

in all other respects i like the phone. apart from the mail downloads, the keyborad/autocorrect, the odd ability to inadvertently turn the torch on without realising it (still not sure what i’m doing there) and slightly janky approach to wifi (tho i’m not sure this is the phone)

but begob its a slippy motherfucker.

Fizzles, Saturday, 25 April 2020 09:38 (four years ago) link

I like these new wallpaper options

https://i.imgur.com/St7cILF.png

calstars, Saturday, 25 April 2020 10:53 (four years ago) link

are those part of all ios devices or just new iphones?

davey, Saturday, 25 April 2020 11:09 (four years ago) link

this reminds me that my wallpaper is from an ex who did me dirt and i should change that shit

davey, Saturday, 25 April 2020 11:11 (four years ago) link

Xp just the new ones

calstars, Saturday, 25 April 2020 12:07 (four years ago) link

I swear to God this thing just squirmed off my desk all by itself.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 25 April 2020 12:50 (four years ago) link

Put some protection on that thing

calstars, Saturday, 25 April 2020 12:53 (four years ago) link

I swear to God this thing just squirmed off my desk all by itself.


ikr.

Fizzles, Saturday, 25 April 2020 13:46 (four years ago) link

don't forget all new iphones come w a free year of apple TV+

not sure if there's anything good on it tbf

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Sunday, 26 April 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link

yes my finger keeps hovering but not pressing that button

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 26 April 2020 20:23 (three years ago) link

mainly because still not availabile for PS4 lol

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 26 April 2020 20:58 (three years ago) link

Thank you for being the early adopter here, TH - thinking about one too. I’d made my peace with 4” phones never coming back and was ready to seek out a refurbed 8 until they announced the 2020 SE. So I need to cough up for a headphone adaptor and some kind of grippy case, yeah?

This magic transfer from old phone to new - this circumvents restoring backup entirely?

Michael Jones, Sunday, 26 April 2020 21:15 (three years ago) link

it didn't work for me. it stalled out. I was never able to re-summon the swirly magic circle. So I had to restore from a backup. Which felt like it took way too long. Otherwise fine.

Yep I've got a cloth (!!?) case and a jack winging their way towards me as I speak.

I hesitate to mention the camera on to you Mike because I know what I great photographer you are but the camera is absolutely outstanding compared to my old SE.

It is big enough that I am needing to relearn things - particularly the back button which as mentioned I can only just stretch to now. But I'm sure in a few days I won't even remember that I did it any other way.

It definitely feels more 'different' - more luxurious - than my SE felt from my 5S.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 26 April 2020 23:01 (three years ago) link

My 13yo recently told me that "big cameras are a boomer cliché" so, who knows, I may actually be back in her good books if I start taking more phone snaps.

Still weighing up the numbers before taking the plunge; can't really spring for an extra £17/month over my current SE + SIM-only arrangement, so I'm hoping to find a decent deal. The routine every couple of years has been to "live chat" the folks on the EE website and wangle myself something better than they're advertising. Not surprisingly, that's not an option at the moment. Either hoping for SE-2020 on a contract for only a bit more than I'm currently paying, or change the SIM-only deal to something even cheaper, and buy the handset from Apple.

Of course, the original SE has been *just fine* these last few weeks. Barely going anywhere, not searching for 4G signals or streaming audio, the battery lasts all day... It doesn't really need replacing.

Michael Jones, Monday, 27 April 2020 09:55 (three years ago) link

Don’t replace it then - don’t allow yourself to be manipulated into an unnecessary purchase. When the time comes that you *do* need to replace it, your options will be better and/or cheaper.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 27 April 2020 11:06 (three years ago) link

My old SE was fine but my son had smashed his phone's screen (my old 5S) and no way was I going to spring for a screen replacement for a phone that old and knackered. So the SE went to him, and I get the new one. Hakuna matata.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 27 April 2020 11:10 (three years ago) link

I just love capitalism

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Monday, 27 April 2020 11:37 (three years ago) link

Yeah, the next-generation pressure isn't from wanting the latest thing, it's literally from the next generation :) Kids now both have 5S handsets from 2014-15, which do have a tendency to spontaneously shut down, so naturally they're clamouring for my next cast-off. Can't please both of 'em, though - their Mum switched to a cheap Android last year so there's nothing else in the hand-me-down pipeline.

Michael Jones, Monday, 27 April 2020 11:57 (three years ago) link

Yeah been there - actually I bought used SEs for both my daughters and both are going strong after a year and a half.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 27 April 2020 12:16 (three years ago) link

This is a bit shit of them:


Fwiw. this is not a bug. It's not an ideal situation for me (I use notification actions dozens of times a day every day). Haptic works in many other ways on iPhone SE, but not on notifications. https://t.co/2SqFKKGlZG

— Matthew Panzarino (@panzer) April 27, 2020

stet, Monday, 27 April 2020 23:40 (three years ago) link

young angry dude in my house went into a rage and headbutted his ipad air when it froze and it seems to be bricked now. I'm hoping it is just the connection between the screen and the CPU that has come out, which has happened before when he has done this. Does anyone know of a UK based postal repair service that is reputable and will repair at a reasonable price. I know, probably not much of a chance but no harm in asking.

I looked up how to repair this fault on youtube but am too heavy handed and clumsily fat fingered to try it myself.

calzino, Sunday, 10 May 2020 19:25 (three years ago) link

i've had good experiences with iSmash. they do a mail-order service now and the page for iPads is here:

https://www.ismash.com/pages/ipad-repairs

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 10 May 2020 20:25 (three years ago) link

thank you tracer, much appreciated

calzino, Sunday, 10 May 2020 20:31 (three years ago) link

I just found someone who literally lives 10 minutes from my house who is continuing his town centre ipad repair business from home. Will see how this goes - he get's good reviews.

calzino, Monday, 11 May 2020 09:53 (three years ago) link

amazing!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 11 May 2020 09:55 (three years ago) link

this morning i woke up to a dead iPhone.

i’d forgotten to charge it!

what freaked me out though was that the home button didn’t “click” at all! it was like the whole phone was just a solid immobile slab. the button doesn’t click?? what flavour of badness is this?? once i got a charge it started clicking again though. extremely strange. how can a physical button become deactivated?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 17 May 2020 12:51 (three years ago) link

it's not a button iirc. it's just a haptic motor

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Sunday, 17 May 2020 12:52 (three years ago) link

yeah, it doesn't actually move it just fools you into thinking it's moving with haptic feedback. it's really eerie the first time you feel it "dead"

stet, Sunday, 17 May 2020 12:54 (three years ago) link

what?????? i’m clicking it right now and i would swear on my copy of “shades of jae” that it’s moving

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 17 May 2020 12:56 (three years ago) link

well it's vibin

maffew12, Sunday, 17 May 2020 13:03 (three years ago) link

The 6 and 7 series were so thin, it was great. My 11 feels twice as thick

calstars, Sunday, 17 May 2020 13:59 (three years ago) link

aw man stet just redpilled tracer!!!!

j., Sunday, 17 May 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link

in modern parlance, i’m screaming

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 17 May 2020 15:55 (three years ago) link

Yeah, the non-button button is pretty freaky. You get to choose your flavour of haptic feedback when you first set up the phone but I'm not sure I could tell the difference between the modes. My SE-2020 is somehow more convincingly clickable than Carolina's 7. The feel of moving a graduated dial (with a little "hump" at the zero point) when you edit photo attributes is nice too.

Camera is pretty ace. I think my IG feed is finally going to become truly "insta", instead of being proper-camera shots I transfer over hours or days after the fact.

Michael Jones, Sunday, 17 May 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link

I got my head around the fake button travel OK but then I started really freaking out when I thought for a while it was tricking me into imagining a click noise. Then I found out that it really does emit a click noise and I learned to have a little more faith in my own senses.

Alba, Sunday, 17 May 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link

I find myself *mashing* the 7 / 8 home button. Muscle memory expecting the concurrent depress still there

calstars, Sunday, 17 May 2020 17:38 (three years ago) link

And any button or facsimile is superior to swiping up

calstars, Sunday, 17 May 2020 17:39 (three years ago) link

it’s weird going back to the old mechanical home button (e.g. the current ipad air) because the negligible sideways travel makes me think it’s broken. every time.

karmic blowback for dissing pip and jane baker (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 18 May 2020 10:02 (three years ago) link

Has anyone got the new SE? Wondering whether to just replace my current SE with a renewed old model – as the camera is broken and I have an eight-month old daughter to take 12,000 pictures of every day - or go with the 2020 version. If anyone’s got one, what’s the camera like? Sufficiently better than the previous SE? I don’t use my phone for much else.

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 11:16 (three years ago) link

yeah, the camera is top notch

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 11:17 (three years ago) link

It's really very good. You'll get a lot of mileage out of Portrait mode with a kid around! If it senses a face, it applies a graduated blur to everything not in the same plane as the face; you can mess with this after the fact too - simulating deeper or shallower depth of field, studio-style lighting, etc. (Or turn it off). The Smart HDR of non-portrait mode is impressive too. These are two things (fake bokeh, HDR) which I'd always thought were cheap and nasty effects on phone-cams, but they've really improved. The back-camera itself is slightly better specced on the new model, and the front-camera is much better than the old SE.

Pretty happy with this. Get a grippy case though. Thing will slide off any surface.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 11:41 (three years ago) link

yeah - really a vast difference w the camera

i got a nice 'tweed' case for it - actual cloth which i guess is glued to a form-fitting piece of plastic - and it's v nice so far

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 12:14 (three years ago) link

Cool. Ordered one. Thanks! Yay consumerism

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 13:34 (three years ago) link

Good to know about the camera!

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 13:36 (three years ago) link

Also (and I hope this isn't a dealbreaker, as you've just ordered it), there's no headphone jack, and no Lightning-minijack adaptor in the box. They do bundle in some Apple EarPods with Lightning connection, obv. They're better than I remember, but I did have to buy an adaptor (£9) to carry on using my third-party earbuds. And, for some strange reason, the adaptor only worked one way round initially. Ok now.

Wireless charging is nice too. I have a Qi pad on my bedside table (bought when the kids wrecked the USB port on my tablet), so I just lay it on that.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 13:44 (three years ago) link

Ah earplugs thing is no bother, I have tinnitus and never listen to headphones anyway!

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 13:46 (three years ago) link

can someone recommend a wireless charging pad that takes advantage of the SE's fast charging?

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 13:54 (three years ago) link

do you want one that charges well at a reasonable price, or do you want to peacock it

mh, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:04 (three years ago) link

I've got one of the Samsung Fast Charge wireless stands that holds the phone at an angle on my work desk so I can poke at the phone while it's charging

I've got the insanely overpriced Nomad charger that looks luxe on my nightstand, but it has two charging spots, a couple discreet extra usb ports on the back, and they have a model with a stand for the watch if you have one

mh, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:05 (three years ago) link

i think fast charging is a wired-only proposition? could be wrong here tho...

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:09 (three years ago) link

yeah, it's not the "fast charge" standard, it's just uh... a charging pad that has higher than the lowest amount of charge for a charging stand

mh, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:14 (three years ago) link

and yes, no charging pad will do actual fast charging

just plug it into a good charger that supports it, or if it supports even faster charging, get a usb-c charger and a lightning-to-usb-c cable

mh, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:15 (three years ago) link

and get a good cable, too. I got a seemingly-OK Amazon lightning-to-C cable and it sucks: lots of "not supported" errors and charging failures.

stet, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:16 (three years ago) link

buy Anker stuff as default imo

mh, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:17 (three years ago) link

fs thought this was a simple question

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:21 (three years ago) link

go to thewirecutter.com and buy whatever charger they say

mh, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:22 (three years ago) link

Fast charging requires a USB-C power adapter that offers at least 18 watts.

got it

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:23 (three years ago) link

thewirecutter lads are a bunch of yankee scoundrels who always cite model names that don't exist in the world's greatest country, blighty britain

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:24 (three years ago) link

yeah, I was going to add a caveat about that but then was like, eh who cares :)

mh, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:31 (three years ago) link

If I'm really bored one day I might see how quickly the Qi pad charges vs regular Lightning cable vs the 12W iPad charger (which, seeing as it's <18W, may do nothing different). Can't really see fast charging being a major need tbh. Esp atm.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 15:00 (three years ago) link

I just want fast charging because I often forget to even charge my phone - so when I do remember, it would be nice to give it the max amount of juice possible...

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:08 (three years ago) link

This is where I admit I’ve been abusing the fact usb-c lets devices tell the charger the maximum they’re allowed to charge at

so I‘be been using the ridiculous Macbook Pro charger that’s like 96W or something for everything from my Nintendo Switch to my phone to my laptop

mh, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:50 (three years ago) link

(xp) Fair enough. I usually have a spare battery and cable in any bag I take out of the house, a habit formed in the summer of Pokemon Go. Of course that's now no good if I want to use earbuds too. I can see how zapping a nearly-dead phone up to 50% with a high-wattage charger would be handy if you're about to head out and not be near a power source for hours.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 17:19 (three years ago) link

get a Qi charger than does 7.5W (not 10W, Apple products don't support that yet) and make sure it comes with a wall charger better than 5A so it can handle that mode, otherwise it'll be stuck at 5W.
usually the decent chargers will include a USB-C port, even if your Qi pad doesn't use USB-C.

Nhex, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link

altogether you don't need to spend more than like $30-40 on it

Nhex, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link

mh you haven't been abusing anything, this is the world we deserve, the world THEY said we couldn't have

lukas, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 20:53 (three years ago) link

do any of you know how to use an iOS device as a webcam for a mac laptop in clamshell mode using an external monitor?

Joey Corona (Euler), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 14:56 (three years ago) link

There's an app I tried a while back – iView or similar (sorry, I've totally forgotten but will look it up). It was though, a bit crap - the image is good but there's an unavoidable lag

stet, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 14:59 (three years ago) link

hmm, yeah I need this to be crisp and fast. I can just use the laptop camera but I'd rather be able to look forward than down.

Joey Corona (Euler), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 15:02 (three years ago) link

I have bought a dodgy HDMI capture stick off ebay to see i can usably hook up my DSLR for the same reason, yeah

stet, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 15:04 (three years ago) link

i'm getting a new Mini and it's occurred to me i could use the old one as a.... NAS? has anyone here ever done this?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 15:13 (three years ago) link

stick something under your laptop

j., Wednesday, 20 May 2020 15:17 (three years ago) link

well I'd also like to be able to use the external screen because it is so much bigger. I've been just using my iPad for videoconferences where I don't need to be looking forward all the time, and just putting it to the side: good for faculty meetings and the like. but I have a couple things coming up where that won't be as good (I have teleprompter like needs for those). the laptop screen is big enough for that, I'll just put the video window to the side, it's not crucial that I see them particularly well, it is crucial that they see me and that I can see the text I need to read.

Joey Corona (Euler), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 15:22 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

not exactly stoked for the madness today tbh. Maybe they'll make macos worse idk

stet, Monday, 22 June 2020 14:19 (three years ago) link

seem like they're getting back on track little by little - hopefully they can continue down a positive path. don't have my hopes up too much tho

scampo simmonite (||||||||), Monday, 22 June 2020 14:34 (three years ago) link

have been waiting for the ARMBook for like 5 years at this point, hopefully they make it smol

all cats are beautiful (silby), Monday, 22 June 2020 14:41 (three years ago) link

Maybe they'll bring back Rosetta.

Alba, Monday, 22 June 2020 14:47 (three years ago) link

hah, it's already possible to build ARM binaries on x86, see: iOS apps. There's no need for emulation in common cases. Another LLVM payoff I think.

all cats are beautiful (silby), Monday, 22 June 2020 14:51 (three years ago) link

I agree from a developer standpoint and as someone who generally uses new apps, but the #1 complaint for most people is “my program that I bought no longer works and I don’t know why”

kind of a hard balance between “things should just keep working” and “apps need to be updated to be modern in regards to platform/security/etc”

I’m generally on board with the second because oh boy remember what a mess Windows became when everyone wanted to run their apps from eons ago on every new Windows version

solo scampito (mh), Monday, 22 June 2020 14:58 (three years ago) link

it's cool that we can so easily run dos programs on mac os though.

Joey Corona (Euler), Monday, 22 June 2020 15:01 (three years ago) link

there's some real good Raymond Chen posts about that sort of thing xp

all cats are beautiful (silby), Monday, 22 June 2020 15:02 (three years ago) link

i feel like i only just got used to intel, my last computer still had unrunnable powerpc binaries on it somewhere

j., Monday, 22 June 2020 15:22 (three years ago) link

this has definitely become less of an issue over time now that virtualization and emulation have gotten better!

solo scampito (mh), Monday, 22 June 2020 15:30 (three years ago) link

and, iirc, now macs have been on intel longer than they were on powerpc

solo scampito (mh), Monday, 22 June 2020 15:32 (three years ago) link

yeah but powerpc didn't feel like going over to the ENEMY it felt like a cool new superboost

j., Monday, 22 June 2020 15:34 (three years ago) link

ah yes, the weird apple cult thing where processors from motorola/ibm (!) were magic

solo scampito (mh), Monday, 22 June 2020 15:37 (three years ago) link

there were some genuine perks of powerpc at the time but the idea that any component that deviated from standard Windows boxes was part of the “apple magic” was always a weird take imo

solo scampito (mh), Monday, 22 June 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link

A Mac Pro on a many-core POWER9 sure would be something tho huh?

all cats are beautiful (silby), Monday, 22 June 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link

all these hoonja-doonjas, like tears in the rain

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 22 June 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link

xp yeah, that would be kind of neat!

when it was clear Motorola was stagnating, the theories about Apple jumping to all kinds of different platforms was interesting. I think there was a contingent that thought they should buy the DEC Alpha assets, even

solo scampito (mh), Monday, 22 June 2020 16:00 (three years ago) link

lol Zing is already < 10mb

stet, Monday, 22 June 2020 17:31 (three years ago) link

(re AppClips)

stet, Monday, 22 June 2020 17:31 (three years ago) link

This episode of Black Mirror sucks

https://photos.reportinglive.com/p/2020-06-22/f1592847115.jpg

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 22 June 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link

Apple Watch detecting when you don't wash your hands enough. wonder if it narcs

stet, Monday, 22 June 2020 18:04 (three years ago) link

they're trailing this new design in a big way

stet, Monday, 22 June 2020 18:09 (three years ago) link

truly dismal stuff this

scampo simmonite (||||||||), Monday, 22 June 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link

widgets foad challenge

scampo simmonite (||||||||), Monday, 22 June 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link

creg just do a good keyboard challenge

scampo simmonite (||||||||), Monday, 22 June 2020 18:35 (three years ago) link

macs will now properly run iOS apps. woah

stet, Monday, 22 June 2020 18:43 (three years ago) link

Oh, they're calling it MacOS 11 so bye bye X

Alba, Monday, 22 June 2020 18:46 (three years ago) link

custom wallpaper on carplay, safari, all the things get custom wallpaper

solo scampito (mh), Monday, 22 June 2020 19:00 (three years ago) link

There are a bunch of music apps on iOS that sell for 1/10th of a MacOS instrument or effect. That’s going to be interesting.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 22 June 2020 19:11 (three years ago) link

macs will now properly run iOS apps. woah

hmmm. depends on how the app is designed, right? even something as basic as a swipe gesture is going to be annoying if you use a mouse.

lukas, Monday, 22 June 2020 20:20 (three years ago) link

(I know you meant something different by "properly" I'm just leery of running handheld apps on a desktop)

lukas, Monday, 22 June 2020 20:23 (three years ago) link

they did completely breeze past the swipeyness, but modern iPad OS lets you use an external pointing device with a cursor to swipe, so I'm assuming anything that supports that is good

solo scampito (mh), Monday, 22 June 2020 20:44 (three years ago) link

...I proclaim as I type on an iPad with a touchpad

solo scampito (mh), Monday, 22 June 2020 20:45 (three years ago) link

and of course laptops are very swipey now

j., Monday, 22 June 2020 20:47 (three years ago) link

touchpads on apple laptops remain excellent imo

solo scampito (mh), Monday, 22 June 2020 20:49 (three years ago) link

xps it's been called macOS since Catalina, no X

assert (MatthewK), Monday, 22 June 2020 21:50 (three years ago) link

that's what they say but that's not what i say when i google broken os x shit that they HAVEN'T changed

j., Monday, 22 June 2020 22:25 (three years ago) link

been called macOS since Catalina, no X


Sorry, I was unnecessarily romananizing. I mean it's finally gone from 10 to 11.

Alba, Monday, 22 June 2020 23:24 (three years ago) link

Ah yes - shedding the Jobs era I guess, no skeuomorphism remains

assert (MatthewK), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 00:02 (three years ago) link

Lots of shadows and gradients in those new icons, I think the tide is turning. Next stop leather

stet, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 00:03 (three years ago) link

ALL NEW

SQUARES

j., Tuesday, 23 June 2020 00:10 (three years ago) link

the X always stood for 10!

Mac OS X -> OS X (with 10.8) -> macOS (with 10.12 aka Sierra)

it always seemed dumb to put the X along with 10.whatever because “Mac oh ess ten, ten point one” didn’t quite roll off the tongue but the Roman numeral X looked cool I guess

a return to sanity, even if major version updates now apparently mean “we’re switching architectures”

solo scampito (mh), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 00:16 (three years ago) link

And so it comes full circle, my first computer was and acorn electron and now my Mac architecture will be descended from an Acorn chip. Although not until V2 of the hardware comes, mind you it basically means whatever computer I have will be an iPad under the hood.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 01:46 (three years ago) link

no official word about the order in which the various mac lines will get ARMs right?

normally i'd assume MBP and iMac first but with the reduced power consumption ... maybe MBA?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 05:14 (three years ago) link

11 or 12 inch zero pound laptop would be ideal

all cats are beautiful (silby), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 05:45 (three years ago) link

mba seems a good fit, sounds like imac and mbp will be first

pedant in me is irritated at headlines implying apple has released a mac mini with the new architecture when it’s a dev kit that apple will recall at the end, it’s invite-only, and it’s not production hardware

solo scampito (mh), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 15:17 (three years ago) link

if they made an MBA with a touchscreen to accompany the newfound iPadOS app capability then I would probably buy one immediately.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link

I dunno it's kinda uncomfortable to hold your arm up to touch the screen.

lukas, Thursday, 25 June 2020 17:43 (three years ago) link

Also fingerprints. And a colleague said it killed the battery life on his.

koogs, Thursday, 25 June 2020 18:10 (three years ago) link

maybe a generational thing? the younger ones seem to enjoy them

calstars, Thursday, 25 June 2020 20:52 (three years ago) link

Whatever the term is for the Yoga-type laptops that can fold alway their keyboards, I want one of those with macOS. MacBook-sized.

stet, Thursday, 25 June 2020 22:21 (three years ago) link

I really really like my ipad pro, and basically just want it to have a slightly better processor, a real keyboard, and to stand up by itself. I want to keep the touchscreen but I also want a touchpad for more precision when using certain apps

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Friday, 26 June 2020 01:34 (three years ago) link

Touchscreens on phones and tablets: reassuringly solid glass (or glass-ish), no flex, can obviously withstand any amount of jabbing, swiping and smearing. Often water-resistant. Easy to clean.
Touchscreens on laptops (in my limited experience): I feel like I'm ruining the screen.

I guess it would make laptops unacceptably heavy to install the same sort of display surface as a tablet? I dunno, maybe they're better now.

GF has a Lenovo Yoga 360. She very gingerly brushes the screen to select/scroll, mostly uses the trackpad and has never flipped it all the way over. I'm not sure we quite believe we won't break it :)

Michael Jones, Friday, 26 June 2020 09:45 (three years ago) link

that seems oddly sexual but hey it’s the Apple thread and Lenovo called their thing a Yoga so all bets are off

solo scampito (mh), Monday, 29 June 2020 03:56 (three years ago) link

I’ve started listening to accidental tech lmao

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 4 July 2020 18:10 (three years ago) link

Am I the only one who, when upgrading to a new phone or machine, just leaves it 'Mac-Mini-2' or 'iPhone (2)' out of superstition and/or a belief that attempting to fix it will be far more trouble than it's worth, yet still allowing it to bug them every time they see it??

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 17 July 2020 14:57 (three years ago) link

no

We're fools Jimmy

If you decide not to buy a lettuce, you still have the dollar you would have otherwise spent

I want both not to fix it, and not be annoyed, but the one is the price for the other

We're fools, Jimmy

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 17 July 2020 15:34 (three years ago) link

Just change it, not a big deal

calstars, Friday, 17 July 2020 17:30 (three years ago) link

for real

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Friday, 17 July 2020 17:41 (three years ago) link

I’ve started listening to accidental tech lmao

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek)

lol, are you listening for siracusa's arm mac musings? i listen sometimes but those episodes are so damn long.

circles, Saturday, 18 July 2020 15:13 (three years ago) link

Ha no although I am an og Siracusa Mac OS X bets review reader.

I started listening for the home server discussion. I want to get a nas but the guy who has one (instead of like a Mac mini) is obviously an idiot which makes me doubt my own judgment haha

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 18 July 2020 21:08 (three years ago) link

@Tracer I've kinda given up into old man-ism by not entirely knowing how my devices communicate anymore

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 18 July 2020 21:23 (three years ago) link

i hear that, good buddy

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 18 July 2020 21:48 (three years ago) link

if you’re going to use the functionality that automatically prompts you to share wifi passwords with friends, it seems like it’s limited to about five feet. so lean in for a sec, if you’re in a yard with wifi

I was trying to figure out how to do it manually and finally it just jumped up when I went to grab a drink from the center of our circle

solo scampito (mh), Sunday, 19 July 2020 03:13 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Does anyone have a car with Carplay? Any good? It's one of the factors in our car buying decision (basic trim vs next level up one of the upgrades is carplay).

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 13 August 2020 20:37 (three years ago) link

i don't know how much i'd pay for it if it wasn't included as standard, but it is great for navigation. waaaay better (and feels safer) than using your phone. other than that, i don't get a ton out of it that i don't get out of a bluetooth connection.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 13 August 2020 20:41 (three years ago) link

I’ve used it on rentals and it’s much better (and simpler) than the UI on any car with a dashboard screen I’ve used otherwise. I’d make sure it’s a vehicle that has a screen close enough that’s meant to be reached out and tapped safely — one loaner from a dealer when my car was being serviced had a touchpad thing in the center console that was trying to be too fancy, and I think the distance to screen was part of the decision

solo scampito (mh), Friday, 14 August 2020 00:18 (three years ago) link

Definitely an improvement on using a suction cup / phone on the inside of the windshield for navigation. Voice calling works well and I think it refuses to deliver texts while driving which is good.

calstars, Friday, 14 August 2020 00:26 (three years ago) link

i think carplay is pretty darn good although it can get a little flakey at times (random blank screens, stuff just suddenly not working). i use spotify, waze, and the apple podcast app. texting using siri is also nice if you just need to respond quickly to a text.

call all destroyer, Friday, 14 August 2020 00:35 (three years ago) link

Same. I don’t have it in my car, but the rentals I’ve used with CarPlay have been great when they worked, but had a bunch of bugs and disconnect issues. Could have been overworked USB jacks though.

DJI, Friday, 14 August 2020 00:41 (three years ago) link

The texts are read aloud! I think iOS is getting this as an option, but AirPods also do this now. It works reasonably well.

solo scampito (mh), Friday, 14 August 2020 03:34 (three years ago) link

Hmm. Does sound nice but I don’t know if there are enough other features on the stepped up trim that I care about to make it worth the extra 2500 or so.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 14 August 2020 03:38 (three years ago) link

I don’t think I care about most of these much

Heated Front Seats
One-Touch Power Moonroof with Tilt Feature
7-inch Display Audio with High-Resolution Electrostatic Touchscreen
Dual-Zone Automatic Climate Control
Customizable Feature Settings and Compass
Apple CarPlay® and Android Auto™
180-Watt Audio System with 6 Speakers
Sirius XM® Radio
HD Radio™
HondaLink®
Blind Spot Information System (BSI) with Cross Traffic Monitor

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 14 August 2020 03:39 (three years ago) link

I was going to say some upgrades are worth it on cheaper cars but I think I know what you’re playing at and, yeah

solo scampito (mh), Friday, 14 August 2020 03:40 (three years ago) link

on second thought, that looks like a good trim package

specifically the blind spot package (safety!), heated seats/moonroof (comfort) and six speaker system

I would assume you’re going above the base level upholstery which I have decided is good after having cloth seats that never cleaned up well and tore

solo scampito (mh), Friday, 14 August 2020 03:43 (three years ago) link

never discount the value of a toasty butt

Nhex, Friday, 14 August 2020 04:40 (three years ago) link

yeah the BSI, heated seats and airplay are the best things about that package. the BSI is the big deal though.

is "hondalink" a thing where you can use an app to start the car? that is extremely handy if you're dealing with extreme temperatures and kids.

i don't know if it's worth $2500, but unless you keep the car until it has a resale value of $0, it's not actually going to cost you $2500.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 14 August 2020 06:14 (three years ago) link

I so miss the days when optional equipment was sold a la carte rather than in packages or "trim levels", so I didn't have to spend thousands on crap I don't want, or worse would rather not have, just to get a few crucial items. Honda has long been one of the worst offenders in this regard.

Anyway Carplay is totally worth having, especially for beaming the navigation maps to the dashboard screen. Some new cars (and replacement head units for old cars) have wireless Carplay which is more convenient than the kind that makes you plug in a USB cable, especially the slow-charging old USB-A type.

Lee626, Friday, 14 August 2020 11:11 (three years ago) link

Also, the dual-zone climate control is a relationship saver...

Lee626, Friday, 14 August 2020 11:12 (three years ago) link

The wireless CarPlay with charging pad should be available as another step up in trim than the wired regular CarPlay

calstars, Friday, 14 August 2020 12:08 (three years ago) link

The worst feature of my 2015 Honda Fit was when I had to replace the transmission even though I was still below 15k miles. This was last week. The dealer told me to call Honda to complain and Honda covered 75% of the cost but I’m still out 1200$

dan selzer, Friday, 14 August 2020 12:27 (three years ago) link

Don’t get me started on Honda. Maybe we should take our gripes to a new thread

calstars, Friday, 14 August 2020 12:40 (three years ago) link

CarPlay is better than nearly all the integrated systems I’ve tried except the Audi virtual cockpit one. (They’ve managed to make that much worse with the new touchscreen version though).

stet, Friday, 14 August 2020 12:41 (three years ago) link

Do talk about Honda somewhere as I’m on the brink of leasing a CRV

and i can almost smell your PG Tips (Jon not Jon), Friday, 14 August 2020 12:46 (three years ago) link

I should probably call out the offender of the weird touchpad device

Lexus, what are you doing? Really?

solo scampito (mh), Friday, 14 August 2020 13:40 (three years ago) link

I rented a Ford Expedition (inadvertently) with the top of the line upgrades and drove it to Michigan and back and it was BA NA NAS stupidly big and boat-y, but also I got kinda used to some of the things?? Not only heated seats but ventilated seats, with AC vented through them! Heaven. Also the on-board nav w touch screen that displayed the map as I drove, BSI with warning lights on the side mirrors, wireless charging pad and USB/12v outlets everywhere, a reallly good back-up cam (you need it on that thing)...oh and the driver's seat auto-retracts when you turn the car off, so you can get out more easily. That was wild but useful bc I'm short and have to sit really close to the pedals.

Basically it was scarily comfortable except for driving like a boat and being huge enough to kill a lot of pedestrians at the same time.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Friday, 14 August 2020 13:57 (three years ago) link

Sorry that should read 50k miles. Still way to early For a new trans.

dan selzer, Friday, 14 August 2020 14:00 (three years ago) link

Oh and the headlights and wipers work all by themselves--it even dims and brightens the headlamps when it senses lights ahead. I appreciated both features when I drove through a sudden downpour in PA on my first day and I didn't know where the wiper control was yet.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Friday, 14 August 2020 14:00 (three years ago) link

I've never driven a car w modern tech, so I was just really charmed that it automatically connected to my phone & itunes library, contacts, etc and I could call anyone with voice commands and so on. Magical!

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Friday, 14 August 2020 14:02 (three years ago) link

Haha!

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 14 August 2020 14:29 (three years ago) link

All cars made in us post 2018 have to have backup cameras.

dan selzer, Friday, 14 August 2020 15:21 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eACEHVceYl0

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 03:50 (three years ago) link

Yeah basically nothing has changed

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 04:59 (three years ago) link

4 MB of RAM, that should be plenty

calstars, Tuesday, 29 September 2020 11:22 (three years ago) link

I’m not a fan of the new red Music app icon in iOS 14

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Thursday, 1 October 2020 16:59 (three years ago) link

I think it was also red in iOS 7. then it went white with iOS 10?

calstars, Thursday, 1 October 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link

so is apple going to make me feel stupid for not paying attention to the rumor mill and buying an SE two weeks ago instead of whatever the new smallphone is?

(probably, though i'm sure it'll cost more)

circles, Friday, 9 October 2020 02:06 (three years ago) link

well, it IS October...

Nhex, Friday, 9 October 2020 02:41 (three years ago) link

Talk of an iPhone mini out next week yeah

stet, Friday, 9 October 2020 09:33 (three years ago) link

The iPhone 12 Mini does look the business, physically smaller than the SE2020 but edge to edge, larger, higher res OLED screen. Like...any Samsung.

But it’s gonna be nearly twice the price of the SE, so there you go.

Michael Jones, Friday, 9 October 2020 10:11 (three years ago) link

Yeah, the SE2020 was the first time I've ever had the "latest thing". Usually it's last year's or the year before's model. It's nice, but I've dropped it more often in five months than I did any of the smaller handsets, ever. This could just be senility. Happy to go back to small and not-the-latest-thing if 12 Minis are going cheap in 2022!

Michael Jones, Friday, 9 October 2020 10:31 (three years ago) link

I sold my 11 last week to help finance the 12 mini, can’t wait

calstars, Friday, 9 October 2020 11:08 (three years ago) link

I like our HomePod way more than I thought, the mini is interesting

stet, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 17:04 (three years ago) link

i will pay extra to not have smart speakers in my home

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 17:19 (three years ago) link

We’re officially in the “but this razor has five plus one blades” era of iPhone sales.

rb (soda), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 17:51 (three years ago) link

it looks like a nice phone

mh, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 18:43 (three years ago) link

not sure they need four new models, but hey

mh, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 18:43 (three years ago) link

argh, is there any real certainty that they're doing another event next month (hopefully macbooks) or is it purely speculation? any idea when we might know?

sean gramophone, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 19:24 (three years ago) link

Arm book by the end of the year

calstars, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 19:25 (three years ago) link

they have committed to at least one arm mac by the end of the year (not clear if that's announced or actually shipped). the general consensus it it will be a lower end macbook.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 20:09 (three years ago) link

thanks!

sean gramophone, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 20:27 (three years ago) link

are they... are they made of arms? do you wear them on your arm?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 20:32 (three years ago) link

Here's a version of my iPhone sizes sketch with the ghost of the original SE, if anyone wants that size comparison. #AppleEvent pic.twitter.com/De1y7KFGva

— Kate Matthews (@rhl__) October 13, 2020

new iphone mini is bigger than the original SE, but smaller than the current SE.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 20:43 (three years ago) link

looks... smaller than the original SE?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 20:48 (three years ago) link

Original SE is unlabeled in light orange/peach.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 20:49 (three years ago) link

Original SE is the peach one without a label in the middle

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 20:50 (three years ago) link

ah got it. yeah, i can get with that for sure; i've been hanging on to my 5se for five years or so but it's beginning to flag. gonna need to upgrade at some point in the future though; a top of the line model with applecare and case/charger/wallet looks like it runs about 1400.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 20:54 (three years ago) link

Ugh, they're killing me with the late release dates this year. I was planning on keeping my 6S for at least another year but I went swimming with it in my pocket the first week of September and have been limping along with my old 4S since then. Which means I don't even really have a phone since Verizon won't activate that one anymore. Good thing I never got rid of the land line!

early rejecter, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 21:07 (three years ago) link

Wah

calstars, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 21:30 (three years ago) link

This mini looks really good, yeah. The camera on the enormo one does as well though: the example shots are better by some stretch than the last round and in much more challenging light than the usual “desert at midday” stuff

stet, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 21:54 (three years ago) link

I've got to the New Battery (and new lightening port) vs New Phone point in the cycle. However, I'm not entirely sure my original X is lacking anything, but will probably end up buying a new one anyway.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 05:51 (three years ago) link

SE now £399

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 12:29 (three years ago) link

cheapest iPhone ever?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 12:29 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Will it have a keyboard that doesn’t suck?

Will macOS run in an iPad so I can buy a portable Mac with a keyboard that doesn’t suck?

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Monday, 2 November 2020 21:37 (three years ago) link

Gotta wait til next year’s LED screens on the notebooks

calstars, Monday, 2 November 2020 21:45 (three years ago) link

Which laptop did you want, Ed? They’ve already dropped the butterfly keyboard on much of the range, haven’t they?

Alba, Monday, 2 November 2020 22:17 (three years ago) link

gonna get one of these because they keyboard is better https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-400-the-70-desktop-pc/

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 2 November 2020 22:23 (three years ago) link

Aren't those inevitably going to die horrible deaths by Keyboard Crud?

Nhex, Monday, 2 November 2020 23:04 (three years ago) link

I got one of the first 13” MBPs with the new keyboard and it is still too easy to double strike a key, the action I don’t mind. I never go anywhere without an external keyboard now, or anywhere at all this year.

TBF my ideal setup is probably an iMac + and iPad

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Monday, 2 November 2020 23:20 (three years ago) link

Fuuuuuck, the non-pro iMac can't be configured with more than 256GB of storage? FUUUUUUCK.

scampo-phenique (WmC), Monday, 2 November 2020 23:38 (three years ago) link

really? that's insane.

lukas, Monday, 2 November 2020 23:50 (three years ago) link

Seems to be? I have a 2017 with 500. That’s crazy if they’d do that. They can’t be assuming everybody would just have a bunch of external drives. I have a thunder bay w 4 drives hooked up and even then I’d rather have more than 256 on internal.

dan selzer, Monday, 2 November 2020 23:55 (three years ago) link

8TB.

by the light of the burning Citroën, Monday, 2 November 2020 23:56 (three years ago) link

Ah, that's for the 3.1Ghz version. The 3.3Ghz and 3.8Ghz models can go higher. Still, crazy.

scampo-phenique (WmC), Monday, 2 November 2020 23:58 (three years ago) link

Up to 2TB in the 3.3 and up to 8TB in the 3.8.

scampo-phenique (WmC), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 00:00 (three years ago) link

I’m just popping in to say the 12 Pro is the best iPhone I’ve owned since the 4 and it’s largely because it’s the same shape and it’s blue

shout-out to his family (DJP), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 00:11 (three years ago) link

yeah i got the regular 12 anda week in it's the most enjoyable-to-use device i've probably ever owned

Clay, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 00:34 (three years ago) link

I’m enjoying my 12 pro. I thought the X was the best when I got it but I’m really satisfied with the 12 pro. Straight sides are definitely better.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 08:03 (three years ago) link

I agree straight sides are essential if you don't use a case. I'm going to stick with my 1st-gen SE as long as possible. My wife just got the 2nd-gen SE and its slippery as heck without a case on it.

o. nate, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 15:20 (three years ago) link

I still wish it had a headphone jack though

#vote2020 (DJP), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 15:22 (three years ago) link

I'm returning the 12 regular today and ordering the Pro Max on Friday

calstars, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 15:22 (three years ago) link

As I've mentioned on here before, I drop my SE2 all the time, and that's with quite a grippy case on it. Combination of curved edges, slightly too big to comfortably be extracted from any jacket pocket, and accelerating geriatric clumsiness, I guess.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link

I've got a full-on cloth case for mine which helps a lot.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 15:59 (three years ago) link

Just got the iPad Air which feels heavy and chunky but powerful af compared to the 4 year old one I had.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:13 (three years ago) link

i am using an old (circa 2015) wacom intuos pro tablet to handwrite things on the macbook pro for various pedagogical purposes. it really sucks over bluetooth and is not much better over usb.

does anyone have experience using the ipad + apple pencil as a wireless writing tablet? is it any good? do you need an ipad pro to do that? my 2015 ipad air still works fine for what i use it for (90% reading and looking at internet) but i wouldn't mind ditching the wacom and it seems like most notetaking apps are geared for ipad to begin with anyway.

the late great, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:22 (three years ago) link

I just bought an apple pencil for my kid for his birthday to go with a standard iPad from 2018. Birthday is next week. I'll report back.

DJI, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:24 (three years ago) link

Do you mean to use the tablet for writing in real time in an online class? I have had some success with that but not reliably enough. Just writing with the pencil offline works great though, eg for writing comments on student work.

All cars are bad (Euler), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:25 (three years ago) link

yes that's exactly what i mean

the late great, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:27 (three years ago) link

real time writing using (usually) zoom screen share or (less frequently) a shared document

the late great, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:28 (three years ago) link

The search for handwritten text in one of the apps I use (Goodnotes, iirc) is creepy-good. I used it a lot before WFH

stet, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:31 (three years ago) link

Yeah I have to use ms teams for that and it worked well in a test session but not during the actual class. I’ll have to retry soon.

All cars are bad (Euler), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:31 (three years ago) link

i'm using goodnotes, notability and onenote. none are perfect and i'm having trouble making up my mind which to use. notability seems the most stable, probably because it has the fewest features?

the late great, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:33 (three years ago) link

OK this M1 MacBook Air looks pretty fast, eh? Or am I being sucked in by hype?

Alba, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 18:32 (three years ago) link

the custom GPU gives me a cynical feeling, but i'll keep an open mind
Apple One finally available btw, time to find some friends who will go in with me

Nhex, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 18:34 (three years ago) link

how much does it weigh though

The Bosom Manor Michaelmas Special (silby), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 18:35 (three years ago) link

I have Apple One because of my brother, it's cool (as these things go) - the magazine selection is decent, Apple Music is about as annoying as Spotify now, I haven't found any game worth keeping in Arcade though

onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 18:41 (three years ago) link

is News+ worth the extra $10 bump to the top tier? (though even less when split)

Nhex, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 18:44 (three years ago) link

how much does it weigh though

― The Bosom Manor Michaelmas Special (silby), Tuesday, November 10, 2020 12:35 PM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

MBP is same as the prior models, sounds like? might be interesting to see how the Macbook Air performs, it’s a lot lighter and seems to be getting the same chip

I’m kind of boggling at the fact that after decades of collaborating on chips and going with Intel they’ve got a — well, largely through acquisitions and hiring — completely in-house CPU/GPU across almost all the product lines

mh, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 18:52 (three years ago) link

NHex, if you like magazines, there’s a lot of magazine content on News+ afaict

mh, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 18:52 (three years ago) link

I think so - the newspapers have the WSJ/Times/LA Times, New Yorker/New Republic/Mother Jones (99% trash now but occasionally good) + general interest like Smithsonian and Outside

onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 18:53 (three years ago) link

Nothing about the 14" MacBook Pro. Oh well.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 18:55 (three years ago) link

Nothing about the 14" MacBook Pro. Oh well.

Next year. This was all about getting the new processors into existing hardware (similar to the PowerBook 3500 and the transition to PPC).

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 20:52 (three years ago) link

The Mini is more interesting than the Air, but only if Apple makes RAM/SSD upgrades user-serviceable (ha) or affordable (haha) - the lower tier stock drives and memory are cruel.

onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 20:53 (three years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/eejTX4wK04

— Paul Hudson (@twostraws) November 10, 2020

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 21:16 (three years ago) link

(similar to the PowerBook 3500 and the transition to PPC)
nooooooo that would be the PowerBook 5300 and just the model number is enough to make me break a sweat. I suffered with a work-supplied 16MB greyscale passive screen model and it was just hellish, eventually I bought a used 540c with my own money and life was so much better. I wasn't properly healed until the 1400c came along. God those were bad days to be an Apple user.

assert (MatthewK), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 21:24 (three years ago) link

yr right. I was thinking of first PowerBook G3, not the 5300.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 23:38 (three years ago) link

I think you were actually right in the first place - but it was the transition to G3, not to PPC. 5300 was an all new enclosure (and a piece of shit compared to the outgoing 540c), whereas the PB 3500 was a PB3400 with a G3 replacing the PPC 603e or whatever they had.
Of course down the road I was able to switch out the 603 in my 1400c for a G3/350 which was an improvement. I still have that computer, wrote my thesis on it, it's a gem although the screen is failing these days.

assert (MatthewK), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 00:15 (three years ago) link

... which is what you said in your last post, I shouldn't post after a terrible night's sleep. Sorry.

assert (MatthewK), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 00:15 (three years ago) link

big sur on thursday? did i hear that right?

anyone know why did the 16" MBP didn't get the new chips? is that coming soon? maybe they're still working on mini-LED displays?

the late great, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 00:48 (three years ago) link

I think the plan has always been to roll them out on the lighter-use machines and let developers catch up with iMacs and the big MBPs to come next year.

For my uses, I'd have to be sure most music software (lots of small plugin developers) + Lightroom worked well on Silicon before I switched from Intel.

onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 00:56 (three years ago) link

It's a rule in life never to get the first get apple anything. Also I need to be sure R and QGIS run smoothly.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 01:01 (three years ago) link

first gen

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 01:01 (three years ago) link

Except for the first iPhone and first iPod and first air pods which were all great

calstars, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 01:14 (three years ago) link

anyone know why did the 16" MBP didn't get the new chips? is that coming soon? maybe they're still working on mini-LED displays?

― the late great, Tuesday, November 10, 2020 7:48 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

the high end machines aris more complicated because they need an integrated GPU in the SOC that is way, way bigger than what they're used to from the iphone/ipad, or they need to do the hardware/software engineering work to make their silicon work with true external GPUs (memory, pcie, etc.). both approaches are tractable but they're not as easy as sticking a keyboard on a ipad pro and calling it a laptop.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 06:13 (three years ago) link

aris=are

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 06:13 (three years ago) link

"true external" means outside the apple silicon chip, not "outside the enclosure". sorry that was a badly written post.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 06:14 (three years ago) link

Speculate all you want, but I'm assuming that Apple's thinking is that the M1 performance is such that eGPUs are unnecessary
https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/11/10/apple-silicon-m1-macs-do-not-support-egpus

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 09:45 (three years ago) link

Of course down the road I was able to switch out the 603 in my 1400c for a G3/350 which was an improvement. I still have that computer, wrote my thesis on it, it's a gem although the screen is failing these days

The 1400s were remarkably indestructible over the long run. I never owned one, but a college professor did give me one that looked liked it had been hit by a car. Still powered up, I found a used screen on eBay and frankensteined it together.

Still going to hold out for whatever the rumored 14" MBP is next year and am going to keep ignoring/power-cycling through the "Service Battery" warning.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 10:12 (three years ago) link

Speculate all you want, but I'm assuming that Apple's thinking


lol

is that the M1 performance is such that eGPUs are unnecessary


Egpus (as distinct from gpus that are not part of the soc, eg pcie, which is what I’m talking about) are kind of weird and I’m sure apple would rather not support them.

But non soc gpus are absolutely necessary for half their product line. The iMac Pro and Mac Pro make no sense as products without gpus (multiple expandable gpus in the case of the Mac Pro). There is no market for a $5000+ machine with the ability, just about, to drive multiple desktop monitors, but not more than that.

The fact that m1 does not support egpus is totally consistent with what I’m saying, which is: the reason the first silicon Macs are the absolute bottom of the line macs is those are the only macs they can get away without supporting things like pcie/workloads outside the SOC/expandability. If that’s not the reason then why did they start with the bottom of the line?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 12:56 (three years ago) link

If I’m wrong and they aren’t working on a solution to that set of problems, this is the end of the line for the Mac Pro btw.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 12:57 (three years ago) link

Nothing is stopping Apple from making an external GPU with its own memory, right?

DJI, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link

It’s probably hard and they haven’t done it before

The Bosom Manor Michaelmas Special (silby), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link

I wonder if this architecture migration will end up with Macs losing a lot of pro apps.

DJI, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 16:47 (three years ago) link

I would guess they are spreading some money around to avoid that eventuality

The Bosom Manor Michaelmas Special (silby), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 16:48 (three years ago) link

they’re got an excellent integrated GPU and are targeting a subset of use cases to accelerate when it comes to creative stuff

but there are a bunch of use cases where discrete, often-upgraded GPUs are necessary and they can’t completely dump that market because it overlaps with a couple of their target user groups

they might just give up on trying to cater to those markets entirely. they definitely don’t care about PC gaming and would rather capture the 2/3 of the gaming market that exists between games that don’t need the newest GPUs on macs and mobile games. machine learning models are needed for a bunch of the ML/AI stuff done on their devices but training those models is something you could do in the cloud and not on device. high-end video editing is still a huge GPU thing, and I wonder if they just want to figure out where the low bar is for “works well enough” and create a machine with extra task-specific modules that can do that stuff similar to the module for the Mac Pro

I have no clue if they even have a GPU endgame, but if they can move machines without having to futz with supporting third-party cards they might go that way

mh, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 16:50 (three years ago) link

when the transition to intel happened they had Rosetta to make the old apps work with the new architecture - is there something similar in place now?

calstars, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 16:54 (three years ago) link

yup, Rosetta 2 is in play

mh, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 16:59 (three years ago) link

all this comes at a weird time for me. i just busted the display on my 15" 2015-era MBP, so i'm looking to upgrade. i work with media a lot, so i also want something kinda powerful but relatively inexpensive by apple standards. i'm intrigued by the new fancy M1/silicon stuff, but i really don't want a new machine that has trouble running older apps.

i'm considering waiting until the intel-based mac mini drops in price, then getting one of those, plus a decent 4K display? i'm thinking those two together would equal around $1300-1400, which is about what the new M1-based 13" MBP costs, while still being more powerful, and with a much better and larger display than i've ever had. my current MBP still functions (it's just missing the left .75" on the display and has permanent horizontal distortion lines across the bottom 1.0"), so i can still turn to that when i need something more portable?

xp meant to ask about rosetta 2, as well. did rosetta 1 work well? apple pitches it as the solution to the new architecture not working well with older apps, but i don't believe it

@oneposter(✔️) (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link

Rosetta 1 was good enough for the most part iirc but I wasn't doing too intense workflows

Nhex, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 17:26 (three years ago) link

i have no flow, haha

i basically just use video editing software, photoshop/aftereffects, audio software (logic, etc), and most intensively, 3D 4D stuff like C4D

@oneposter(✔️) (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link

but i rarely use those all at once. so if rosetta 2 will work an ancient copy of photoshop, cool with me

@oneposter(✔️) (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link

that's all intensive stuff I would be worried about working on the new chips, honestly

Nhex, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link

esp Logic

Nhex, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link

yeah, i think so too. :( do you think there will be a price drop on the intel-based models anytime soon? it's a bummer because the intel-models now seem even more expensive, but they also might be left in the dust in the next few years as they transition?

@oneposter(✔️) (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 17:52 (three years ago) link

Yeah but those are Apple/Adobe apps, which will be ported for sure. I worry about Ableton, but I'm guessing they'll bite the bullet.

Looking forward to seeing some actual benchmarks on M1 and M1+Rosetta 2.

Feeling that Apple customer foolishness from buying a MBP16 last year.

DJI, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 17:55 (three years ago) link

rosetta worked shockingly well iirc

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 17:58 (three years ago) link

I got a MBP16 early this year (I think?) and I’m fine with it

Intel ain’t going anywhere for a while

mh, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 18:17 (three years ago) link

I don’t think most Ableton components have a lot of hand-optimized assembly code or anything. There will be some fiddling around with code to get it recompiled, I’m sure, but it’s not the effort it could be

mh, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link

They’ll figure out the gpu stuff. It just wasn’t the easy low hanging fruit to start with. Pro line next year.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 18:32 (three years ago) link

I think I’m finally going to upgrade my 2013 MacBook Air for the new air. Waiting for a couple of reviews but it looks fine for my purposes.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 18:33 (three years ago) link

my partner just bought her first ipad: a 64 gig air.

Four Seasons Total Manscaping (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 18:43 (three years ago) link

so the Air will probably be an underclocked version of the same chip, and the MBP will have better performance

mh, Thursday, 12 November 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link

This weeks ATP goes very deep on the architectural constraints and silicon roadmap

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 12 November 2020 20:47 (three years ago) link

And when I said these integrated gpus can just about drive two monitors but can’t do heavy graphics work I was wrong. They can’t drive two monitors haha (although that seems to be an IO constraint. The gpu units could probably manage it.)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 12 November 2020 20:48 (three years ago) link

Hmm, in a quandary here. I have a fairly basic Mac mini with a 128 GB internal, in that that's all I need -- my music/video/etc files are on a separate hard drive, and my writing is backed up separately via iCloud and Google Drive. But as a result, in trying to install Big Sur, I apparently don't have enough space to actually put it ON my Mac mini as it stands (I had around 20 GB free, downloading Big Sur install files took me to 11 GB, and now it says I need 24 GB more). Any best options here?

Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 November 2020 16:35 (three years ago) link

Don’t install Big Sur? 😀

DJI, Friday, 13 November 2020 16:37 (three years ago) link

*badumtish*

Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 November 2020 16:38 (three years ago) link

this ought to get you there, Ned?

https://www.macworld.com/article/3566910/how-to-create-a-bootable-macos-big-sur-installer-drive.html

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 13 November 2020 16:42 (three years ago) link

Don’t install Big Sur? 😀

No Sur!

@oneposter(✔️) (Karl Malone), Friday, 13 November 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link

xpost -- Thanks! I'll give that a whirl.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 November 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link

Be careful. I got an email from UAD saying my audio interface isn’t compatible with Big Sur yet.

DJI, Friday, 13 November 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link

I'm still waiting to be sure everything works fine w/ catalina. There were so many issues I'm hoping to skip it altogether and hope Big Sur is better and everybody gets on board. Yesterday's roll out brought my entire company to a standstill so that's not promising.

dan selzer, Friday, 13 November 2020 17:09 (three years ago) link

As it stands, I'm noticing a work-related email asking to hold off on installation due to security software compatibility. Which, fair! If nothing else I'll have the technical side on my end settled and can just wait on work to give the all-clear.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 November 2020 17:11 (three years ago) link

The IT dept at my company also told us to wait on Big Sur...wish I had a separate machine for personal use I guess

calstars, Friday, 13 November 2020 17:45 (three years ago) link

I'm still on Mojave. Is there any reason for me to upgrade?

lukas, Friday, 13 November 2020 17:50 (three years ago) link

Never went to Catalina either because of a few 32-bit apps. Maybe it's time to bite the bullet... or not

Nhex, Friday, 13 November 2020 17:54 (three years ago) link

i would not install the x.0.0 or x.0.1 of any macOS. give it a few months imo.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 13 November 2020 18:24 (three years ago) link

install it day 1 u cowards

redalph, lord xyzzzz__ (||||||||), Friday, 13 November 2020 18:43 (three years ago) link

no I'm asking if I should install Catalina

lukas, Friday, 13 November 2020 18:44 (three years ago) link

None that I can see except it’s purty

calstars, Friday, 13 November 2020 19:09 (three years ago) link

Installed Big Sur earlier today. Seems to be running smoothly on a 2019 iMac. Relieved not to have the Music app bug of early Catalina where it would be fetching artwork for hours. The only issue I've noticed so far is that Maps seems to take an incredibly long time to open.

The overall look seems not that different - unless i'm completely unobservant. There is a fairly useless control centre icon in the top right. I'm sure I'll have forgotten in a couple of days that the OS has changed.

Luna Schlosser, Friday, 13 November 2020 19:12 (three years ago) link

pro max just arrived...it's huuuuuge

calstars, Friday, 13 November 2020 20:03 (three years ago) link

Same here. It really is enormous. Amazing to read things on though, and camera is turning out to be miles better than the XS.

(I have seen a recurrence of an old bug from the first days of Live Photos where it makes the blur as you put the phone down into the key frame, though)

stet, Friday, 13 November 2020 20:04 (three years ago) link

High Sierra chugging along fine over here

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 13 November 2020 20:16 (three years ago) link

Still on regular old Sierra on a 2014 mbp! Anything later fucks with the Nvidia card mine's got, supposedly.

Dan I., Friday, 13 November 2020 21:05 (three years ago) link

I hate Apple's harassing upgrade now notifications so much.

onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Friday, 13 November 2020 21:53 (three years ago) link

Sorry, half the software I says not to upgrade, you're gonna have to chill the fuck out Mr. Cook.

onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Friday, 13 November 2020 21:53 (three years ago) link

Went all in on Day One. I reformatted my Time Machine drives to APFS. Full backups really really fast now finally.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 13 November 2020 22:07 (three years ago) link

Are you backing up to SSD or a spinning disc

lukas, Friday, 13 November 2020 22:14 (three years ago) link

APFS is good yes

mh, Friday, 13 November 2020 23:02 (three years ago) link

lmao ok wow this OS is incredibly fugly

why is there so much ... empty space everywhere?

the late great, Friday, 13 November 2020 23:06 (three years ago) link

also they weirdly seem to have made half the stuff more skeumorphic and half the stuff less skeumorphic ... make up your damn mind!!

the late great, Friday, 13 November 2020 23:09 (three years ago) link

Snappin mad pix wit dis new cam

calstars, Friday, 13 November 2020 23:33 (three years ago) link

Are you backing up to SSD or a spinning disc

Spinning disk.

New UI is both good and bad. Dark mode looks great on a big monitor, empty and crowded simultaneously on something like Mail.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 14 November 2020 04:31 (three years ago) link

i don't know if i like it or not, but it's nice that the UX feels like it's getting some attention. reminds me a little of when os x first came out and jobs kept talking about how it was all 'lickable'. everything feels very candy-like.

re: skeumorphism i feel like they're trying to split the difference and it mainly works? i was never a fan of the entirely flat effect - like some schmindie casual mobile game graphics. the subtle shading makes the icons pop a little. it's more approachable and friendly imo.

very small font on mail subject lines in my inbox now! and i would love to get rid of 'favourite' mailboxes. i have it set up the way i like already, thanks - don't need you deciding what my favourites are.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 14 November 2020 17:58 (three years ago) link

Tomorrow’s forecast of rain portends an imminent installation of this candy azz sh1t

calstars, Saturday, 14 November 2020 18:47 (three years ago) link

would like a little less space overall but hey

mh, Sunday, 15 November 2020 03:10 (three years ago) link

Paused plans to buy the new MacBook Air until there’s a supported docker and some benchmarks of intel docker images.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 15 November 2020 15:59 (three years ago) link

I have a 13 year old 27” iMac and a 7-8 year old 17” Mac Book Pro. The iMac has a DVD drive. I still purchase physical media whenever possible.

Which would you upgrade first?

DJP, Sunday, 15 November 2020 18:15 (three years ago) link

idk, depends what you want to do

could just get a sweet mbp and a decent monitor/external drive

mh, Sunday, 15 November 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link

They made 27'' iMacs in 2007?

Nhex, Sunday, 15 November 2020 18:20 (three years ago) link

I had a similar thought regarding the 17” m b p , which was last made in 2012

calstars, Sunday, 15 November 2020 18:43 (three years ago) link

I have a 13 year old 27” iMac and a 7-8 year old 17” Mac Book Pro. The iMac has a DVD drive. I still purchase physical media whenever possible.

Which would you upgrade first?


Your preference for lol hueg computers!!!!

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 15 November 2020 18:52 (three years ago) link

iMac Pro is majestic, buy one.

lukas, Sunday, 15 November 2020 19:05 (three years ago) link

15yo daughter is constantly on at me to get her a Mac. I think it stems from a trip to a Cash Converters last year where she was amazed to see MacBooks for under £300 - but pretty sure they were Unibody 2011-12 refurbs. She's doing a lot of graphic design with Adobe Illustrator for school, and her entry-level W10 laptop can't hack it. (For all the remote learning this year, the school issued Chromebooks, but for Creative Cloud apps, the kids are on their own). Am I right in thinking she'd be seriously underwhelmed by what a 2012 Mac (esp one with less than 8GB RAM) can do with resource-hungry Adobe apps in 2020? Esp with a sub-FHD screen. Better off spending the money on a reasonably well-specced Windows laptop from the last couple of years?

Michael Jones, Sunday, 15 November 2020 23:01 (three years ago) link

If I were an Adobe user I’d rather have one of those than anything else you could get for £300.

You might be able to upgrade the ram to 16gb yourself with a Philips head on Mac that old. Check ifixit.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 15 November 2020 23:15 (three years ago) link

What kind of Adobe apps are we talking about. Lightroom and photoshop she’ll be fine. Rendering and video maybe not so much.

calstars, Sunday, 15 November 2020 23:19 (three years ago) link

I have two daughters with very similar requirements. I've found that the retina MacBook Pros are the min spec (so, late 2012 for the 15", and late 2013 for the 13"), and for Adobe stuff, 8GB RAM is the bare minimum (it can't be upgraded in those models). Likewise a 256 GB SSD (although they can be upgraded if you are tech capable or can pay for it). Here in Aus I have found those for about £300 equivalent locally and on eBay, but had to be patient.
If you're searching through listings, anything with a CD drive in it is pre-retina. Anything older can't run the current OS (and probably not the current Adobe suite either). But 8GB/256GB is the minimum RAM and storage.

assert (MatthewK), Sunday, 15 November 2020 23:20 (three years ago) link

When my work desktop blew up I replaced it with a Lenovo laptop that was $500 (from Costco) - 15.4" screen, 9th gen core i7 processor, 1TB SSD, 16GB RAM (user upgradeable, I think). Can't imagine a comparably valued Mac being remotely as useful.

The speakers suck, it's not a Retina screen (but still perfectly fine for using Photoshop and InDesign to make flyers and stuff) and the trackpad took some getting used to vs. Apple's - but OTOH, the keyboard is better and it has a number pad on the right hand side.

onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Sunday, 15 November 2020 23:30 (three years ago) link

I think she has access to some kind of shared Student All Apps plan, but hasn't installed more than Ai or Ps. Half-convinced most of her issues are down to just bloat and garbage on a laptop she's hammered for non-school stuff for several years (I did a regedit search for Amazon Assistant so I could properly uninstall it, and that immediately improved things). If a teenager's PC is like their bedroom, yada yada... I don't spend that much time with the girls, so it's hard to get to bottom of these things.

All her recent video editing she just, er, delegated to me in iMovie cos there wasn't a chance Prem Pro would run on her machine. (I have a mid-2015 MBP15R).

So, yeah, InDesign, Illustrator, Prem Pro, Photoshop, Lightroom, I guess? She's welcome to call upon my 12 years of experience of doing the same bloody thing to every photograph in Lr if she wants.

I was also thinking 2013- Retina w/8GB was minimum, and official reseller refurbs of those are £500+. That gets you an awful lot of 2018-19 W10 machine.

xxp

Michael Jones, Sunday, 15 November 2020 23:39 (three years ago) link

Check the support situation. You’re right on the edge of macs that are too old to upgrade to Catalina, and Adobe no longer sells/supports some of their older pre Catalina versions.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 15 November 2020 23:46 (three years ago) link

Several 13" at the right spec around £300 on eBay UK - if you buy thru PayPal you have some cover. Once they reach the retina era there are few moving parts to go wrong, but of course GPUs and batteries fail (not economical to replace either).
Elder daughter just upgraded to macOS 11 on her 2014 MBP13 (and the late 2013 is also able to) so there's a bit of life yet.

assert (MatthewK), Sunday, 15 November 2020 23:51 (three years ago) link

(and both are running Catalina, any retina machine can)

assert (MatthewK), Sunday, 15 November 2020 23:51 (three years ago) link

Good points, all - thanks.

Michael Jones, Sunday, 15 November 2020 23:56 (three years ago) link

feeling like I should start an ilx classifieds to sell my 13” macbook pro that’s still reasonable

mh, Monday, 16 November 2020 03:22 (three years ago) link

this is a screenshot of part of my sidebar right now on big sur.

https://i.imgur.com/RnYZKAp.png

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 16 November 2020 23:16 (three years ago) link

to be fair that's partially self-inflicted. i ran into permissions problems with superduper after installing. could not fix them. so i used disk utility to erase my external for a fresh backup. however, i didn't erase the 'volume group' - i erased the data volume of the overall external disk container. then i tried superduper again and somehow this happened.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 16 November 2020 23:19 (three years ago) link

(i also have backblaze as a secondary backup for this volume, so don't worry, you paranoid backuppers!)

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 16 November 2020 23:21 (three years ago) link

Got my hands on a mini today and it seems more..user friendly than the pro max, which i returned as it’s just impossible to use one handed without feeling like my hands are in gym class doing calisthenics all day

calstars, Monday, 16 November 2020 23:29 (three years ago) link

Paused plans to buy the new MacBook Air until there’s a supported docker and some benchmarks of intel docker images.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, November 15, 2020 10:59 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

not inside docker, but these are good https://mjtsai.com/blog/2020/11/16/performance-of-rosetta-2-on-apple-m1/

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 04:45 (three years ago) link

in Big Sur my Mail app decided to not show any windows. I tried everything to get it to display an inbox, a new message window, something. At one point I right-clicked on the dock icon and chose 'Show All Windows' and it kind of blurred most of the screen and displayed a message right in the middle that said 'No windows available'. Spooky shit! No, they weren't in another workspace. I restarted Mail, restarted the computer, still no windows. Eventually I hit on 'create new mailbox', which had the effect of jogging everything. I called it 'Adam'. I'm not sure who I had in mind. But once everything was back I deleted Adam. Sorry Adam.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 23:39 (three years ago) link

Here's another one. If I'm in another app and I click on the Mail icon in the Dock, it doesn't bring it to the front. The app name in the upper left corner doesn't change either.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 23:41 (three years ago) link

Ugh, Catalina is buggy enough for me, thanks.

DJI, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 00:13 (three years ago) link

catalina was fine for me!

have started using time machine though because superduper isn't compatible w big sur yet (TIL)

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 00:46 (three years ago) link

I haven't noticed much with Big Sur, aside from rounded edges on everything. I don't want my pics to have rounded edges in filmstrip mode in Finder! Trivial stuff.
Funnily enough, I gave up on Mail years ago, and just went back to having pinned tabs in Safari for Yahoo/Gmail - but now, I've decided to re-link the accounts. Seems...ok?

I think I use my Mac in a clunky inefficient way anyway (if I wanted to launch something, Cmd+Space and start typing; if I want to switch apps, Cmd+Tab; Spaces and stuff are *there* but a bit lost on me).

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 11:59 (three years ago) link

that sounds pretty efficient, Steady Mike. sadly cmd-tab doesn’t work to bring my Mail to the front, either

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 12:08 (three years ago) link

It's all just muscle memory at this point. I feel sympathy for all my (very remote) Client Rep and Account Coordinator colleagues that we try to make work "more efficiently" with all our back-end dev and UI clean-up, and Zoom presentations and initiatives... and it all goes nowhere. Cos ppl like to do what they like to do, even if it involves swearing. About 10% are excited about the One Cool New Trick but most want to get through the day.

Anyway, *that* was a digression!

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 12:16 (three years ago) link

The 12 pro in silver looks really great, especially the edges, very latter day 3PO

calstars, Sunday, 22 November 2020 01:39 (three years ago) link

(and both are running Catalina, any retina machine can)

just to correct myself, in case someone was crazy enough to believe that I know what I'm talking about, but not all retina MacBook Pros can run Big Sur - it's only late 2013 and newer; specifically the first retina 15" (2012) is not supported.

assert (MatthewK), Monday, 23 November 2020 23:33 (three years ago) link

v nice

https://www.singhkays.com/blog/apple-silicon-m1-black-magic/

i like this one:

Apple M1 🤯🚀 pic.twitter.com/REskldpMap

— Mustafa Al Marzooq (@Memo_AlMarzooq) November 18, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 17:28 (three years ago) link

waiting for progress on this though https://github.com/Homebrew/brew/issues/7857

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link

well that settles that. guess i'll start saving for the m1 16"

the late great, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 19:06 (three years ago) link

I'm sure this has been mentioned before, but Big Sur feels a lot like it's getting MacOS ready for touch screens. Lots of padding around controls, buttons plenty big enough to hit.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 27 November 2020 00:54 (three years ago) link

Changing the scaled display resolution on the new #AppleM1 MacBook (left) is absolutely instantaneous 🔥 compared to the delay and screen blanking required by the Intel graphics on the 16 inch MacBook Pro (right) pic.twitter.com/YybbPF09TF

— Daniel Eran Dilger (@DanielEran) November 20, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 27 November 2020 02:21 (three years ago) link

Like

calstars, Friday, 27 November 2020 02:32 (three years ago) link

mmmhmmm

Karl Malone, Friday, 27 November 2020 03:17 (three years ago) link

forget #pepsinext, i'm part of #m1generation now

Karl Malone, Friday, 27 November 2020 03:18 (three years ago) link

Is changing the resolution a thing people do a lot?

onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Friday, 27 November 2020 03:42 (three years ago) link

hush

lukas, Friday, 27 November 2020 06:38 (three years ago) link

Every time you (dis)connect an external monitor.

But yeah it’s almost pointless showing off, no one ever thought it was slow. This is the kind of minor thing that is only worth the time it takes to fix when you have an architectural clean slate like silicon.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 27 November 2020 06:41 (three years ago) link

Little things like this are going to make pcs look incredibly primitive. (macOS is still terrible and apple is bad)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 27 November 2020 06:42 (three years ago) link

home working, the idea of a KVM switch came up. it would solve a problem i have pretty easily i.e. wanting to use a laptop with an existing desktop setup. instead of plugging and unplugging everything each time the laptop user wants to take advantage of the big screen, fullsize keyboard, etc.

i've been looking around and they cost either £30 or like £900. not sure what that extra £870 is getting you...

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 30 November 2020 23:26 (three years ago) link

Alternatively, get a bluetooth keyboard that can pair with multiple devices and a monitor with multiple inputs

I’ve been using the same desk for work and home stuff by having both hooked to the same monitor. Put one to sleep, wake the other up, and I have the (albeit crappy) sound build into the monitor connected to my speakers

mh, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 00:23 (three years ago) link

I do that. I have iMac on desk and Dell monitor. When I want to use my work laptop I plug in the Dell cable and switch input. Then I usually use a second keyboard because I hate switching Bluetooth connections.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 00:54 (three years ago) link

I have an external monitor / hub with a keyboard plugged into it, and a Magic Trackpad (Bluetooth, obv.)

I didn't find a good way to reliably switch the Magic Trackpad between two laptops, other than turning Bluetooth off on one of them. I considered getting a USB Bluetooth dongle, plugging it into a spare port on my monitor, and connecting the trackpad to that, but never got around to it.

lukas, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 01:01 (three years ago) link

This is good if you want a hand wavy explanation of why the M1 is fast and whether intel/amd can catch up https://erik-engheim.medium.com/why-is-apples-m1-chip-so-fast-3262b158cba2

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 02:11 (three years ago) link

Thanks for that!

DJI, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 02:22 (three years ago) link

Alternatively, get a bluetooth keyboard that can pair with multiple devices and a monitor with multiple inputs


Well except Bluetooth is barely functional bullshit

is right unfortunately (silby), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 02:25 (three years ago) link

KVM switches still exist!

Nhex, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 03:45 (three years ago) link

i think the very expensive ones support multiple 4k monitors and thunderbolt and things like that. they're basically this sort of thing combined with a kvm (which is not to say $900 is reasonable) https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-thunderbolt-dock/.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 04:39 (three years ago) link

i would never spend more than $50 on something like that but cool they exist i guess

Nhex, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 04:42 (three years ago) link

i'd be tempted to just buy a bunch of cables and a DIY breaker switch before paying that kinda dough. but you don't have to!

Nhex, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 04:43 (three years ago) link

once you've used some shitty KVMs you understand why people who need them for daily use will drop hundreds of dollars on a decent one

thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 05:41 (three years ago) link

also I got an M1 Air and I am excite (although I won't get it for weeks yet)

thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 05:43 (three years ago) link

Would it be a nutso suggestion to Remote Desktop into the laptop from the desktop rather then KVM?

Noel Emits, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 08:34 (three years ago) link

Pretty laggy for anything other than basic icon dragging and typing text.
I’d just plug the keyboard into the monitor and buy a second trackpad (e.g. used or refurb).

assert (MatthewK), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 10:06 (three years ago) link

in the end i got an HDMI switcher for £8 and a USB switcher for £18 (which can connect 4 peripherals). i think i’m going to be able to just hit two buttons and be done with it.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 10:56 (three years ago) link

I got a pretty expensive Thunderbolt dock because my MBA has only 2 ports, and I need to power it, connect an external monitor, ethernet, one to three external hard drives (including key drives), plus charge my peripherals.

All cars are bad (Euler), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 11:18 (three years ago) link

Remoting in shouldn’t be laggy if you use adaptive or whatever it’s called. I’m working remote and half the time I remote into my work computer because it has a faster connection to the work server than if I use vpn

dan selzer, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 12:20 (three years ago) link

These machines esp the “pro” only having 2 ports is just a slap in the face to customers

calstars, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 12:37 (three years ago) link

Eh it’s fine.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 15:55 (three years ago) link

Airpods Max are £520? When you can get Sony MDR 1000s for about £200 now that seems insane pricing.

stet, Tuesday, 8 December 2020 14:04 (three years ago) link

V-Moda headphones are also better and not at a price point that screams "mug me on general principle"

DJP, Tuesday, 8 December 2020 14:05 (three years ago) link

no wireless charging, less space than a Nomad.

stet, Tuesday, 8 December 2020 14:18 (three years ago) link

That’s a silly price

All cars are bad (Euler), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 14:29 (three years ago) link

Target market: rich people called Max

Alba, Tuesday, 8 December 2020 15:11 (three years ago) link

I think the new Max headphones have a 3.5mm jack, but they don't show it in any of the photos. Does anyone know?

DJI, Tuesday, 8 December 2020 17:14 (three years ago) link

I don't think they do – in fact, they won't work with anything other than Apple devices on the very latest OS releases, according to the small print

stet, Tuesday, 8 December 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link

eh, they’ll probably work but without all the extras? just no firmware updates, etc

mh, Tuesday, 8 December 2020 17:37 (three years ago) link

Yes, that looks right. The smaller small print:

AirPods Max can be used as Bluetooth headphones with Apple devices using earlier software and with non-Apple devices, but functionality is limited.

stet, Tuesday, 8 December 2020 17:58 (three years ago) link

the spatial audio would be pretty sweet if you’re watching movies on the couch and have a sleeping housemate

mh, Tuesday, 8 December 2020 18:13 (three years ago) link

xps yeah I think they have a lightning jack and there is a $35 cable to hook up other gear.

DJI, Tuesday, 8 December 2020 18:34 (three years ago) link

this company is so absurd

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 18:38 (three years ago) link

Their crusade against the 3.5mm headphone jack is a goddamn crime against humanity.

DJI, Tuesday, 8 December 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link

“spatial audio”

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 19:00 (three years ago) link

Funny that they've kept the headphone jack on the 2019-20 MacBooks... but chucked most everything else.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 8 December 2020 19:23 (three years ago) link

Headphone Jack Pro Max*

*dongle is available that gives you an actual computer should you need it for some reason

Alba, Tuesday, 8 December 2020 19:43 (three years ago) link

The jack must infuriate them - simple, robust, reliable, can't be made obsolete (covers full frequency range, humans persist in having two ears)

assert (MatthewK), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 20:06 (three years ago) link

Apple exposing all the ways Facebook tracks you with it iOS app is really quite something pic.twitter.com/hDhB85qk1L

— Tom Warren (@tomwarren) December 16, 2020

DJI, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 18:16 (three years ago) link

https://www.wired.com/story/ways-facebook-tracks-you-limit-it/


(...billlions of ways facebook tracks you, explained...)

...It's worth emphasizing that Facebook, like Google, promises to use this treasure trove of data to improve its services and make life safer and more convenient for its users, as well as generating more profitable ads across its network. You are, after all, using everything Facebook offers for free. If you don't trust Facebook's intentions—which is by now understandable—then you really need to quit using it altogether.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 18:25 (three years ago) link

"maybe get somebody to take that bear trap off your foot?"
"but i like the clanking noise it makes when i walk!"

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 18:26 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

something something “my wife” joke

mh, Sunday, 3 January 2021 03:29 (three years ago) link

Traded in my pro max for a mini, so much easier to hold and use. I’m a one hander I guess

calstars, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 20:36 (three years ago) link

re: Big Sur, i am very grateful that MacOS has now been brought into the Screen Time/Downtime fold. still slightly confusing to select which device you're looking at, and how to time-limit websites, but it basically works, and works consistently across devices, which is the first time this has really been possible in the Apple ecosystem afaik. The ability - as a parent - to remotely and immediately grant requests for time on certain apps BUT NOT OTHERS is huge.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 21:03 (three years ago) link

i will also say that after 30+ years, Apple Music née iTunes now finally remembers the position of the playhead on whatever track you were last listening to, even across restarts, the app closing, etc. No more scrubbing to find where you were in that 3+ hour Luciano mix you were listening to.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 21:04 (three years ago) link

30+? exactly how long have I been isolating in my house?!

mh, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 13:30 (three years ago) link

lol uh yeah i meant 20+ whoops

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 13:32 (three years ago) link

I was so close to loving Apple Music but it doesn't properly sync play counts and Last Played data back to my Mac library. You almost did it, Apple.
(I know, 99% of users will never care...)

Nhex, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 13:40 (three years ago) link

^play count bug irks me as well

calstars, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 14:23 (three years ago) link

Anyone got an M1 yet?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 8 January 2021 16:10 (three years ago) link

me
it's fast! but it won't change your life if you are a regular bozo like me

sean gramophone, Friday, 8 January 2021 16:18 (three years ago) link

I use Macs primarily for scores so even though I'm itching to upgrade my machines, I'm not doing it until the larger screens are updated.

Totino's Fortnite Training Room (DJP), Friday, 8 January 2021 16:19 (three years ago) link

I told my wife we should use our $1200 to get her an M1 Mini and a big monitor and she's pondering the idea.

Motoroller Scampotron (WmC), Friday, 8 January 2021 16:24 (three years ago) link

i have the 13" m1 mbp, no complaints but nothing revelatory so far.

adam, Friday, 8 January 2021 17:03 (three years ago) link

i'm still waiting for the february golang release, and then the dominos fall (docker, full toolchain stuff), but tbh i think i'm done waiting.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 8 January 2021 17:10 (three years ago) link

Anyone got an M1 yet?

i've been using a new m1 mac mini for about a month now. feels good!

the m1 architecture compatibility stuff has been somewhat annoying, but not too bad. and some of the 32-bit applications that were broken by upgrading to big sur actually work now on M1 (i'm assuming Rosetta 2 is doing its magic there)

Karl Malone, Friday, 8 January 2021 20:23 (three years ago) link

...If Rosetta can do that, why not just put in mainline Mac OS X for Intel?

Nhex, Friday, 8 January 2021 20:33 (three years ago) link

not sure how consistently it works. but it's worked on at least a couple of Steam games i have that previously failed to launch

Karl Malone, Friday, 8 January 2021 20:35 (three years ago) link

WTF are you serious 32bit apps work again? That's crazy.

I don't really need a new computer but figure by the time they're onto the second iteration of whatever's coming next I'm pretty excited.

dan selzer, Friday, 8 January 2021 22:09 (three years ago) link

WTF are you serious 32bit apps work again? That's crazy.

ok now i'm feeling paranoid so let me just say SOURCE NEEDED on myself there. i mean it's true for a couple steam games but

Karl Malone, Friday, 8 January 2021 22:39 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Has anyone been using an M1 Mac with Adobe CC through Rosetta 2? I've heard conflicting things about how well it runs? Specifically Photoshop, Illustrator and InDesign.

Alba, Thursday, 28 January 2021 18:07 (three years ago) link

Very interested to know, given what's currently sitting under my bed, and who it's for, and what she'll be using it for :D (Another 17 days to go until birthday, so shhh).

(She'll also be using DaVinci Resolve for Saturday classes, and that already has an M1-optimised version).

Michael Jones, Thursday, 28 January 2021 18:10 (three years ago) link

There’s a native beta of Photoshop which is apparently good; the Intel one works OK but can’t export as .gif. Lightroom is native. No issues listed for InDesign or Illustrator.

stet, Thursday, 28 January 2021 18:28 (three years ago) link

https://helpx.adobe.com/uk/download-install/kb/apple-silicon-m1-chip.html

stet, Thursday, 28 January 2021 18:28 (three years ago) link

We have come full circle pic.twitter.com/doAfuonBT6

— cait (@Caiiter_Tot) February 2, 2021

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 20:58 (three years ago) link

Is that a real thing? Hilarious

calstars, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 22:35 (three years ago) link

afaict it’s a novelty Apple Watch case and is just non functioning plastic/silicone

mh, Thursday, 4 February 2021 02:48 (three years ago) link

way to piggyback a tweet off of a behance or w/e prototype tho

mh, Thursday, 4 February 2021 02:49 (three years ago) link

I know the M1 MacBook Pro isn’t much faster than the Air but Amazon is selling the base level one at a $100 discount at the moment, ie $1,199. For just $200 more than the Air I think I’ll go for it. Better battery life and speakers, slightly more powerful graphics and the Touch Bar might be useful in Adobe apps, right?

Alba, Sunday, 14 February 2021 14:42 (three years ago) link

Went for it. But then not before deciding to up the SSD to 512GB and throw in three years of AppleCare+. So with sales tax it was suddenly $1,800 instead of $1,199. Arrives on Wednesday.

Alba, Sunday, 14 February 2021 14:55 (three years ago) link

1st gen of new hardware makes the extra warranty a wise decision I reckon

assert (MatthewK), Sunday, 14 February 2021 17:51 (three years ago) link

I too was sucked in by the low price of the base Macbook Air M1, but then I bumped up the RAM and HDD and got AppleCare...

no regrets though, it's a fantastic laptop... super fast, great keyboard, no fan

fbclid=fhAZ3l (f. hazel), Sunday, 14 February 2021 18:01 (three years ago) link

The only thing wrong with my 2014 mbp is the battery

calstars, Sunday, 14 February 2021 18:38 (three years ago) link

well, one issue I'm dealing with... I get massive battery drain (like it'll drop to 0% battery in 4-5 days) when the laptop is closed/in sleep mode, haven't been able to figure out why yet

fbclid=fhAZ3l (f. hazel), Sunday, 14 February 2021 18:39 (three years ago) link

Yeah it might be years before I can justify replacing my 2016 MBP

lukas, Sunday, 14 February 2021 18:39 (three years ago) link

Might be tempted by a second gen redesign

calstars, Sunday, 14 February 2021 18:41 (three years ago) link

Will spring for a 12” “air” (if they maintain the distinction)

Canon in Deez (silby), Sunday, 14 February 2021 18:50 (three years ago) link

1st gen of new hardware makes the extra warranty a wise decision I reckon


1st gen of toddler around the apartment also a key factor in my decision-making.

Alba, Sunday, 14 February 2021 19:42 (three years ago) link

Had some sweet bowers & Wilkins speakers back in the day. A toddler pushed in the tweeters

calstars, Sunday, 14 February 2021 19:47 (three years ago) link

16yo daughter delighted with M1 Air (16GB). But also thrilled with Pokemon trading card folder, and glorious 8-bit personalised platform web game (genius, koogs!), and other birthday things and, well, I can show her how slick Illustrator and Photoshop are on this thing another day, right?

Michael Jones, Sunday, 14 February 2021 20:01 (three years ago) link

I stuck with 8GB, partly because I’ve been convinced by people saying how hard it is to max out 8GB with the M1 chip, and partly because we’d have had to wait 3 weeks for a 16GB build.

Alba, Sunday, 14 February 2021 20:53 (three years ago) link

I got 16gb and lol 2tb

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 14 February 2021 21:04 (three years ago) link

what’s the personalised platform game?

Had some sweet bowers & Wilkins speakers back in the day. A toddler pushed in the tweeters

this happened to me too (with B&W floorstanders!) and i popped them back out with a vacuum cleaner

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 14 February 2021 21:13 (three years ago) link

I’m less worried about the size of the SSD as in practical terms the difference between 512GB and 2TB is minimal to me: my total files total more than 2TB so when I’m needing access to all my media files I’m always going to need to plug in my external HD anyway.

Alba, Sunday, 14 February 2021 21:28 (three years ago) link

> what’s the personalised platform game?

in lieu of a birthday card i wrote this

bundle for racial justice and equality on ITCH.io: search and destroy

although the full version is 16 levels and includes hazards based on the kids' designs from over the years (although not as many as i'd've liked)

koogs, Sunday, 14 February 2021 21:45 (three years ago) link

oh wow

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 14 February 2021 21:45 (three years ago) link

Koogs, it is the best birthday card. She accessed it via the email link on Pam's Chromebook so the Mac was just forgotten about for an hour...

I went back and forth on 8GB vs 16GB and, in the end, I figured it was worth the wait and the cash to maybe future-proof it a little. First tech support call tonight: "I keep getting booted out of Roblox." It's not the Mac, it's the crap broadband.

It shipped from the factory on Dec 29 with 89% battery. After two weeks in the care of UPS and four weeks under my bed, it was instantly-on with 65%. That seems encouraging.

Michael Jones, Sunday, 14 February 2021 22:21 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

iposted this iPhone question on the iphone thread to deafening silence, so trying again here:

I have had a 1st generation 64g SE which I bought when it released in 2016 and it is basically dying: dropping calls, now on its third battery it is spontaneously powering down or draining spontaneously, not properly updating apps. i need to get something new more or less this week. i'm already jammed into the apple ecosystem so i guess i'm getting another iphone.

I buy my phones in cash up front and always try to get whatever's newest so that it will last the longest amount of time without getting completely outdated, then get the extended coverage. If it isn't already clear, I intend to not upgrade anytime in the foreseeable future beyond this purchase. I don't give a fuck about phone fashion or bells and whistles, I just need a functional phone that performs at a reasonable speed and works. I am perfectly happy with the small screen of my SE; I just use my pad if I need a larger screen on the go. I'd also like something that I can rely on for the next five years or so without having to upgrade just because the current phone won't play with apple's latest updates.

I'm looking at the iphone 12 mini and the new iphone SE, both at 128g. 2 year coverage inclusive, the SE is $600, the 12 mini is $970.

Is there any really good reason i need to drop another $370 on the 12 or will the SE keep me happy? Given that my SE lasted five years, is there any reasonable doubt that the new SE will be unable to function on whatever apple throws at it through 2026?

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 15 March 2021 21:01 (three years ago) link

I don't know the tech specs for the SE and have no idea if the latest iteration updated anything on it; for that reason alone I would tend towards a 12

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Monday, 15 March 2021 21:04 (three years ago) link

no, get the SE. it's great and the camera will be huge step up for you. the differences between the 12 mini and the SE are more incremental.

the only reason to get the 12 mini is if the SE is not small enough for you.

if you do want a very small phone you should get the mini soon because it seems like it's the worst selling phone they've ever made and i doubt it is long for this world.

i don't think there's any reason to think the SE will be less supported than the mini.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 15 March 2021 21:06 (three years ago) link

xp djp the new SE 2 is under a year old and is very different to the SE 1.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 15 March 2021 21:08 (three years ago) link

ah see, this is why I should not be listened to

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Monday, 15 March 2021 21:09 (three years ago) link

the only reason to get the 12 mini is if the SE is not small enough for you.

this is not true so let me add a couple of things:

imo the substantive major differences between the 12 mini and the SE 2 (apart from size) are the camera (the mini's camera is generally better, has real optical zoom and "night mode" which i know nothing about), and the 12 mini doesn't have a home button. both phone's cameras will be massively better than your current phone's.

i generally prefer iphones with home buttons, but you get used to the new way. the button on the SE 2 is a big improvement over the button on your old SE because it's not actually a real button, which is good because button dust is a point of failure. it's weird when you first try to press the button when the phone is off and you realise it was never a real button this whole time.

buttons!

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 15 March 2021 21:16 (three years ago) link

I do appreciate that they added all the swipe gestures to older iPads that still have the home button. Nice to have one set of gestures that work everywhere

mh, Monday, 15 March 2021 21:21 (three years ago) link

hopefully they’re not listening to me right now, lest they give me the buttonless nondescript hunk of glass that I swipe and yell at in perpetuity

mh, Monday, 15 March 2021 21:22 (three years ago) link

it’s probably what I deserve

mh, Monday, 15 March 2021 21:23 (three years ago) link

I have both the SE 2020 (personal) and the 12 mini (work) and was a longgggg proponent of the 2016 SE as my daily driver.

The 12 mini has a bigger fullwrap screen and the camera is better. The 12 mini has supposedly a faster processor but I am pretty lowtech on mobile and cannot tell the difference.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 15 March 2021 21:44 (three years ago) link

this is helpful, thanks. I will likely get the SE.

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 15 March 2021 22:07 (three years ago) link

I've had the 2nd-gen SE for 10 months now, and it's perfectly fine, but I've dropped it more than any phone I've ever owned. I'm glad I bought a screen protector for the first time in my life, because there's a massive scratch on there right now (which I can always peel off when I get sick of looking at it). I think the combination of larger handset with rounded edges has caused the trouble - I don't seem to be able to get on with that. Luckily, WFH for a year means I've just been clumsily juggling it onto the sofa or a rug rather than down stairwells or onto rail tracks. YMMV, as they used to say on Usenet.

The 12 Mini looks just the ticket (straight edges, smaller body, larger screen), though not keen on Face ID.

Both should be current for years. 6S is still getting 14.x.x updates and that turns six years old soon.

Michael Jones, Monday, 15 March 2021 22:25 (three years ago) link

The other difference between the SE and the 12 mini is the screen tech. The 12 has LED and the SE has an LCD. Which is perfectly fine.

calstars, Monday, 15 March 2021 22:29 (three years ago) link

i take it you are one of the 30 people in the world outside apple HQ who do not use a case xp?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 15 March 2021 22:32 (three years ago) link

i don't mean to boast, but i once went caseless for a couple years, with a SE. only dropped the phone once. it did break the screen, though, when it happened

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Monday, 15 March 2021 22:35 (three years ago) link

honestly, by the time it happened, i almost wanted to drop it. but to drop it on accident, of course (and i did). i felt like i had won 35 "double or nothing" bets in a row, and i was sitting there deciding between keeping the 400K or REALLY starting to make some money. it was basically like uncut gems

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Monday, 15 March 2021 22:37 (three years ago) link

:)

I have a cheap, clear TPU-silicone case for the SE Part Deux. Maybe it's part of the problem. I should try the caseless challenge. How worse could it get?

Michael Jones, Monday, 15 March 2021 22:50 (three years ago) link

I have never put a case on any of my iPhones

Canon in Deez (silby), Monday, 15 March 2021 22:53 (three years ago) link

if it needs some sort of case on it it would ship with a case.

Canon in Deez (silby), Monday, 15 March 2021 22:53 (three years ago) link

lmao silby are you familiar with apple design in the johnny ive era?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 15 March 2021 22:59 (three years ago) link

Haha
Guess the new phones don’t need an AC adapter either

Anyway I don’t use a case either. Just be careful

calstars, Monday, 15 March 2021 23:00 (three years ago) link

I should try the caseless challenge. How worse could it get?

that's right! double or nothing til death! :)

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Monday, 15 March 2021 23:10 (three years ago) link

i feel like i'm in a saloon playing dangerous games like five finger fillet with my boys

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Monday, 15 March 2021 23:11 (three years ago) link

There's sometimes charging stations at the library and the airport and stuff.

Canon in Deez (silby), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 00:22 (three years ago) link

the only time I’ve actually broken one of these suckers was when I had a case on and ended up dropping my phone, screen down, on a singular rock

the next day I was playing wingman to my friend heading to chicago and I started power swiping appointments at every apple store in the suburbs on the way in, got an appointment when we were ten minutes out, and got my phone fixed up as I bought him a cocktail at a schaumburg rainforest cafe at the mall 😎

mh, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 00:54 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

iMacs in a bunch of fun colors. Where have I heard that before?

DJI, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 17:23 (three years ago) link

I’m more entranced by the fact this lady explaining the iMac wearing a denim jumpsuit

mh, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 17:30 (three years ago) link

damn, denim imacs for real?

Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 17:30 (three years ago) link

the new iMac looks nice! Stupid stand though, and M1 arch still seems quite limiting - not many ports, 16gb memory limit etc.

stet, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 17:38 (three years ago) link

jesus christ the ipad pro can drive their expensive-ass display now

mh, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 17:50 (three years ago) link

okay what is that music transcription app because I NEED IT NOW

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 17:55 (three years ago) link

say more?

Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 17:56 (three years ago) link

podcast announcement yet?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 17:57 (three years ago) link

oh lol i just realized this is one of their big press conference things happening

Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 17:57 (three years ago) link

the new iMac looks nice! Stupid stand though, and M1 arch still seems quite limiting - not many ports, 16gb memory limit etc.

i agree with this theoretically, but i'm still not running into any issues with 16GB.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 17:58 (three years ago) link

this sounds like magical thinking but is memory..... different with the apple chips?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 18:03 (three years ago) link

I don't trust 16GB RAM, my obscene amounts of RAM now let me keep a couple of dozen Chrome tabs and Lightroom running without worrying about hurting the performance of Ableton Live.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 18:04 (three years ago) link

xp yes. apparently (empirically) the SOC is so efficient that it needs to page in and out to RAM less often, so it needs less RAM for equivalent performance.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 18:07 (three years ago) link

like if you need 32GB of ram to hold an entire object in memory in numerical programming/machine learning stuff, then you need 32GB of ram and that's that. but that's almost never the situation even in high end desktop work IIUC (not a music person, ymmv).

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 18:08 (three years ago) link

New iMac looks designed for Instagram likes and startup offices but I don't know why I'd consider it over a 16" M1 Macbook Pro whenever those come out anyway.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 18:09 (three years ago) link

other than specialized situations like video editing and high-end gaming, i don't get stationary desktop machines at all. don't you ever want to finish that email from your couch?

lukas, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 18:11 (three years ago) link

the next airpods pro case is going to have an integrated airtag, right? I absolutely could use that

mh, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 18:14 (three years ago) link

Once you get used to a 27" 5K screen it's hard to go back (and the only comparable screen on the market is $1300 by itself) but I'm getting used to it.

Ports is the other big one - but the new iMacs have 1 more port than a MBP (and the entry level two fewer) so that's going to be less of a draw.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 18:15 (three years ago) link

technically the same number as a MBP but since 1 gets eaten up by power I figure it doesn't really count

Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 18:16 (three years ago) link

I would prefer an iMac solely for screen real estate; it makes working on scores much, much easier

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 18:21 (three years ago) link

don't you ever want to finish that email from your couch?

....no?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 18:48 (three years ago) link

don't you ever want to finish that email from your couch?

very much no! i prefer to keep my office work in my office

Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 18:48 (three years ago) link

okay I promise I'll let it go (lucky for you I gotta get lunch) but consider this: sometimes I write emails to friends. you know, those people you didn't meet through work that you used to see.

lukas, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 18:50 (three years ago) link

i recognize those english words but cannot discern their meaning

Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 18:51 (three years ago) link

the next airpods pro case is going to have an integrated airtag, right? I absolutely could use that
I think they already do, I’ve used find my nutz app to locate them a couple times

calstars, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 18:57 (three years ago) link

definitely getting airtags, since 1) they made car keys cost $400 to replace 2) my 3 year old discovered "hide the car keys"

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 18:59 (three years ago) link

I don't think I've ever written a friendly e-mail, that's what texts, messages and calls are for.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 18:59 (three years ago) link

xps yeah hard for me to imagine going below 27'' 5K again. but i'm not partial to laptops anyway

Nhex, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 19:16 (three years ago) link

podcast announcement yet?
yeah they rattled through it in under 60s at the start: new paid-for ad-free podcast subscription service, with “channels” in a rebuilt app.

stet, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 20:03 (three years ago) link

The iMac 5k was much cheaper than there total of a standalone 5k LG and even a lower-powered MBP when I priced it up. I also kinda just like the all-in-one-ness.

stet, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 20:05 (three years ago) link

I'm just about to go for an M1 13" MacBook Air and an LG Ultrafine screen (the 24" as the 27" is like hen's teeth in the UK) for my photography work and day to day.

The M1 27"+ iMac is going to be a while yet and it'll cost a fortune when it does appear.

The M1 Air and LG screen combo is cheaper than the current iteration of the 27" intel iMac I was considering before.

brain (krakow), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 21:45 (three years ago) link

https://www.macrumors.com/2021/04/20/magic-keyboard-touch-id-compatible-all-m1-macs/

i hope they sell this separately. i'd buy it.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 22:26 (three years ago) link

and one with a number pad built in

Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 22:30 (three years ago) link

definitely wondering about an iMac, basically don’t go anywhere with a laptop anymore and one of the new iMacs next to my existing HP 4K would be pretty functional.

That said I’m interested to see how functional an iPad Pro plus external monitor would be.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 22:34 (three years ago) link

been wondering why they haven't done that yet, or even one w a touchbar. Not that I'd want a touchbar, just seems like something Apple might've done.

Count me among the many who don't get why they wouldn't take this iMac refresh as the chance to finally get rid of the chin and bezels. How much thicker would that make the computer? How much better would it look?

And for people shopping for second monitors who care about color, the order goes Eizo > NEC or BenQ. LG, Asus, HP, Dell Ultrasharp all make decent monitors, but it's really about Eizo or NEC.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 22:46 (three years ago) link

The touchbar is dead.

Canon in Deez (silby), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 22:55 (three years ago) link

i hated the touchbar on my old mac almost as much as I love being able to log in with my fingerprint on my new

joygoat, Wednesday, 21 April 2021 00:13 (three years ago) link

^this

Touchbar is such a waste of time.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 00:20 (three years ago) link

worse than that. i press the one on my work laptop accidentally.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 00:25 (three years ago) link

I’ve got around that by using an external keyboard but when I was using the internal one I would accidentally strike the paste button in Microsoft office products almost every time I went to type an ‘e’.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 02:55 (three years ago) link

across the intervening row of number keys?
I just set my touchbar to be the standard function keys, effectively negates it because I hate the stupid thing.

assert (MatthewK), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 03:30 (three years ago) link

touchID on desktops/laptops is truly great, an actual leap forward in usability. paired with something like 1password it means i never have to type in a password again, for anything.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 07:01 (three years ago) link

I agree!

DJI, Wednesday, 21 April 2021 15:58 (three years ago) link

It’s good, but Apple does still make you type the system password at least once a day I find.

Alba, Wednesday, 21 April 2021 16:13 (three years ago) link

I do it more often cause it’s quicker than lifting up the lid when have the MacBook closed and hooked up to an external monitor and keyboard, so a TouchID latter would be great.

Alba, Wednesday, 21 April 2021 16:14 (three years ago) link

external keyboard + touchid + 1password yes please

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 17:41 (three years ago) link

now I’m just having really dumb ideas like “will touchid in the new keyboard work if you... pair it with an iPad?!?”

mh, Wednesday, 21 April 2021 19:49 (three years ago) link

it's M1 (i.e. T2 in the SOC) only, so my guess would be yes in the new ipad pro, no in the other ones.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 19:50 (three years ago) link

It’s good, but Apple does still make you type the system password at least once a day I find.
― Alba, Wednesday, 21 April 2021 17:13

I only have to enter my system password about once a week (plz don't steal my M1 MBA with touch ID and cut off my finger with this knowledge)

colette, Wednesday, 21 April 2021 20:04 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

this seems like a plausible explanation for why M1s feel so responsive in interactive use, even with less RAM than intel machines https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/apples-m1-is-a-fast-cpu-but-m1-macs-feel-even-faster-due-to-qos/

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 03:55 (two years ago) link

really want that larger iMac — assuming the pricing still works out way better than new-Cube + standalone 5k screen

stet, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 17:04 (two years ago) link

xps yeah the impression I get about the M1 is that it is a collection of good decisions, rather than any genius technical breakthroughs.

I know Intel CPUs don't have efficiency-optimized cores but it still seems like Big Sur could dedicate a couple cores to interactive processes ...

M1 vmic for Apple

lukas, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 17:09 (two years ago) link

if it works, it works

Nhex, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 18:34 (two years ago) link

yeah not complaining. only question is if I can justify replacing my 2016 MBP which only feel sluggish in Lightroom.

lukas, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 18:38 (two years ago) link

If you’re using Lightroom Classic definitely wait till Adobe releases a Silicon-native version before replacing a 2016 MBP with an M1 one, I’d say.

I seem to have been particularly unlucky with my Rosetta 2 Adobe experience but I’m not the only one having problems.

Alba, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 02:10 (two years ago) link

I am actually using Lightroom 6, since it does what I need and it doesn't need a subscription. It works on Big Sur but can't be installed on Big Sur, so I'm probably going to need a change here.

lukas, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 20:55 (two years ago) link

Mac Mini Pro could be my ideal computer unless the RAM and SSD tax increases.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Thursday, 20 May 2021 04:48 (two years ago) link

yup. that's all I ever wanted. I'm a monitor snob, about to finally buy an EIZO CS2740, already have other monitors to use as a secondary.

From work I have gotten used to using a macbook, so I will definitely way the price/power differences between a powerful mac mini pro and whatever the new macbook pros are gonna be.

dan selzer, Thursday, 20 May 2021 14:54 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

any news on the M1 macbook pros?

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 1 August 2021 18:32 (two years ago) link

Nope. Was expected sooner but I think there was some backlog due to screens. Last chatter was sometime between september and november.

I'm waiting to see when those hit, or a higher-end mac mini. I need a new computer for my new business/shop.

dan selzer, Sunday, 1 August 2021 18:58 (two years ago) link

the lovely Emma B’s 6-year-old laptop needs a repair and i have convinced her to hold off buying a new one and do the repair instead.

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 1 August 2021 18:59 (two years ago) link

i got a pair of airpod pros for my birthday and these are pretty fuckin great

Same. Bought them on a whim as they were heavily discounted and so far Im impressed. Just need to find a way to keep them where my 3 yo can’t reach them

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 2 August 2021 06:01 (two years ago) link

the lovely Emma B’s 6-year-old laptop needs a repair and i have convinced her to hold off buying a new one and do the repair instead.

This is kind of where I'm at too - mid-2014 MBP15-Retina, 1100 battery cycles, is running ok but can't manage anything CPU-intensive when not plugged in to AC (shuts down). Runs Big Sur fine but won't support Monterey when it arrives. Battery replacement is a fair chunk of cash if this model gets no further OS updates (also: haven't taken it out of the house in 18 months, so being able to render video/photo edits off the battery hasn't been essential in a long time).

The funds all went on M1 MBA for elder daughter six months ago, which is fair enough, as she's got sixth form/college ahead of her (hopefully), an all-apps Adobe CC subscription through school, and may actually forge some kind of career/skill-set/rewarding creative practice out of this. Latest tech is wasted on 50-something hobbyists trying to fill the void :)

Michael Jones, Monday, 2 August 2021 09:57 (two years ago) link

I'm not sure what to do because I want to buy a new MacBook and iPhone and I'm currently in the US, where if nothing else, Apple products are a lot cheaper (base MacBook Air is $999+tax, so $1082 here in New York, versus £999 in UK, which on current exchange rates is $1,389). I'm moving back to the UK in September, probably before the new Macs and iPhones are released, so I'd end up buying at the worst time. Probably still better than buying in sterling. Pleased to discover you can buy a MacBook with a UK keyboard here, though only from Apple I think, so that's another thing to weigh up – whether it's worth paying the extra to buy from Apple rather than elsewhere, where you can often pick up a discount.

Alba, Monday, 2 August 2021 14:05 (two years ago) link

any news on the M1 macbook pros?

are you waiting for the 16" version?

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Monday, 2 August 2021 15:23 (two years ago) link

Historically, new apple stuff announced in q3-q4 is almost always done in the first half of September iirc

Dan I., Monday, 2 August 2021 18:20 (two years ago) link

I was wrong, but most often September and almost never August

Dan I., Monday, 2 August 2021 18:22 (two years ago) link

f hazel yes - not the current 13” one

Tracer Hand, Monday, 2 August 2021 22:25 (two years ago) link

Apple is selling refurb 256GB iPhone 11 Pro for $899. Feels like quite a good deal - I need something to replace the XR that employer will soon take away from me when I change jobs. Any thoughts?

Alba, Wednesday, 4 August 2021 22:17 (two years ago) link

$849, rather

Alba, Wednesday, 4 August 2021 22:25 (two years ago) link

I have an 12 pro and it’s the best phone I’ve ever had but then so was the original X so I think an 11 pro, especially at that price would be great. I’m not sure I’ve ever come close to hitting the limits of the 12.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Wednesday, 4 August 2021 23:02 (two years ago) link

i want touchid, but has anyone typed on this new external keyboard yet?

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/08/apple-begins-selling-touch-id-equipped-magic-keyboard-new-mac-pro-gpus/

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 5 August 2021 02:33 (two years ago) link

I used one briefly when setting up my folks' M1 iMac, it seemed very like the previous wireless keyboard (with the Lightning charge port).

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 5 August 2021 02:41 (two years ago) link

they're pricey but I really want one. Don't have an M1 computer though. yet.

dan selzer, Thursday, 5 August 2021 03:36 (two years ago) link

$149 for the wired one, jeebus. And that's the one without the numpad!

Nhex, Thursday, 5 August 2021 04:11 (two years ago) link

well I guess it has to have an actual computer in it to process the fingerprint and deliver an encrypted unlock code, in addition to the matrix decoder and USB chipset.

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 5 August 2021 04:45 (two years ago) link

down 15 and cant score....

pure rim rest (Spottie), Thursday, 5 August 2021 04:49 (two years ago) link

People pay a lot more for keyboards and my last Apple keyboard lasted 10 years and still going, but yeah that’s a spicy price to be able to auth with touchid in clamshell mode.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 5 August 2021 14:10 (two years ago) link

i'm not even about clamshell mode! I just don't want to have to reach over to my laptop to use touchID!

dan selzer, Thursday, 5 August 2021 15:43 (two years ago) link

i’ll get one for my mini, that’s for sure…

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 5 August 2021 16:12 (two years ago) link

you have an m1 mini?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 5 August 2021 16:13 (two years ago) link

this is my twice-monthly apple thread post where i pop in to say that yes, i have a m1 mac mini, and i love it :)

Read between the lines Zach (Karl Malone), Thursday, 5 August 2021 16:16 (two years ago) link

I'll probably get an M1 Mini for my next Mac. The only thing giving me pause is the 16GB max on memory. The 32GB on my 2012 iMac has been worth every penny.

Profiles in Liquid Courage (WmC), Thursday, 5 August 2021 16:46 (two years ago) link

Ram hits different on the m1s or so I’ve heard

calstars, Thursday, 5 August 2021 16:49 (two years ago) link

yup

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 5 August 2021 16:50 (two years ago) link

my use cases are about as demanding as you can get without hitting the GPU, and at no point have i felt like ram was a bottleneck. (i got 16G)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 5 August 2021 16:51 (two years ago) link

i just bought a new magickeyboard (to replace the fucking butterfly hinge one my mac came with seven years ago) and an apple tv so that i can use my pods with it; i am fully on the ecosystem and ashamed.

my magic keyboard is an old one that uses batteries :( it doesn't seem "magic" when i have to replace the batteries apple

Read between the lines Zach (Karl Malone), Thursday, 5 August 2021 16:57 (two years ago) link

having the plug in option (along with a balky space bar) was the main reason i bit the bullet

however, i will say that i am currently looking at my MAGIC trackpad, which is rechargeable, and i cannot find whatever the cord is anywhere, despite having every usb/micro/firewire/thunderbolt/etc cord of all time

Read between the lines Zach (Karl Malone), Thursday, 5 August 2021 17:02 (two years ago) link

i think my realizable dream tech setup is that there are no cords, and that there is a big surface that just recharges everything and keeps it topped off, and it's all powered by my solar panels on the roof

Read between the lines Zach (Karl Malone), Thursday, 5 August 2021 17:03 (two years ago) link

and when the sun shines harder, my performance of the devices get even better

Read between the lines Zach (Karl Malone), Thursday, 5 August 2021 17:04 (two years ago) link

i don’t have an M1 mini. it only works on M1 machines?? lol oh well

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 5 August 2021 18:16 (two years ago) link

Can someone recommend a good USB-C hub, not necessarily for speed but for charging lots of things. My monitor doesn’t have enough ports anymore.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Thursday, 5 August 2021 20:15 (two years ago) link

the keyboard works, but the touchid bit doesn't on intel macs IIUC.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 5 August 2021 20:32 (two years ago) link

get the anker one that has the ports you need.

usual deciders are whether you need 1) unusually many (3+) usb-a ports 2) ethernet 3) sd reader. if you need one of these three you basically have to get one with all three of these three.

other thing to watch out for is power delivery. if you have an m1 this shouldn't be an issue (they draw like 30W) but if you have an 16" intel mbp then you'll need 100W.

e.g. one of these (there are others)

https://www.amazon.com/Anker-PowerExpand-Adapter-Delivery-Ethernet/dp/B087QZVQJX/
https://www.amazon.com/Anker-PowerExpand-Ethernet-Delivery-MacBook/dp/B08C9HZ5YT/

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 5 August 2021 20:39 (two years ago) link

four weeks pass...

is this steve jobs insult response of the highest quality?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeqPrUmVz-o

also, what is the quality of the insult?

Karl Malone, Saturday, 4 September 2021 14:35 (two years ago) link

not an entertaining response or insult, but he handled it pretty well

Nhex, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 18:04 (two years ago) link

would've been easier to just go with "what the hell is going on with your pants"

I expect that was the highest quality response Steve Jobs ever gave to someone who tried to insult his representation of Java's level of integration into the concept of Open Doc during a public Q&A.

it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 19:21 (two years ago) link

So I guess everyone else is pretty nonplussed by the event today? I think I'm still gonna stick with my 11Pro.

DJI, Tuesday, 14 September 2021 18:55 (two years ago) link

I am waiting for ilxor Jeff’s assessment before making any big decisions

mh, Tuesday, 14 September 2021 20:34 (two years ago) link

so did they end up not adding a temperature sensor to the watch, or did it just not make it through federal approval yet? I want it to alert me if I might have a virus

mh, Tuesday, 14 September 2021 20:41 (two years ago) link

iPad mini looks perfect for me, except the mini 5 is perfectly fine and so I don’t need it. It’s so hard to care about the rest of the incremental grind on show

stet, Tuesday, 14 September 2021 20:44 (two years ago) link

I'm probably going to trade in my Xs for a 13Pro, but enh... no big hurry at the moment

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 14 September 2021 20:52 (two years ago) link

Yeah... also XS owner here, if the trade-in is good enough I'd be tempted to bite on a 13 vanilla or mini

Nhex, Tuesday, 14 September 2021 21:49 (two years ago) link

I’m only interested in camera sensor size. So the question for me is whether there is again a difference between the pros.

calstars, Tuesday, 14 September 2021 22:36 (two years ago) link

Guess they’re the same. and the regular models get last years pro max sensor, nice.

https://i.imgur.com/qQPKPMQ.jpg

From anandtech

calstars, Tuesday, 14 September 2021 23:00 (two years ago) link

sticking with my 6s until they really change something

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 14 September 2021 23:17 (two years ago) link

i am disappointed TouchID isn't back in the phones yet though

Nhex, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 13:00 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

actually excited for this one...

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 18 October 2021 17:00 (two years ago) link

coming out strong with, er, "voice plan"

stet, Monday, 18 October 2021 17:06 (two years ago) link

they always start with the worst stuff but good grief

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 18 October 2021 17:07 (two years ago) link

mac pros or gtfo (i will not buy a mac pro)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 18 October 2021 17:07 (two years ago) link

they cannot resist keeping old products around these days, it's segmentation all the way down with this crew

stet, Monday, 18 October 2021 17:15 (two years ago) link

32gb booooooo!

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 18 October 2021 17:18 (two years ago) link

lol pro

stet, Monday, 18 October 2021 17:19 (two years ago) link

m1 pro meh. m1 max is more like it.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 18 October 2021 17:21 (two years ago) link

Why Max over Pro?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 18 October 2021 17:24 (two years ago) link

it's more

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 18 October 2021 17:25 (two years ago) link

what else i'm looking for: wait and see but pro sounds like it might only support two (maaaaybe 4?) thunderbolt ports again. max will certainly support 4 (maybe 8).

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 18 October 2021 17:26 (two years ago) link

show the bloody computer already

stet, Monday, 18 October 2021 17:27 (two years ago) link

I don't even know what a thunderbolt port is so maybe I'm more of a pro guy -- or are you saying people need 64gb ram? (I am at 16 on my current mbp)

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 18 October 2021 17:29 (two years ago) link

they have been very careful throughout to mention notebooks only. no mention of macs or mac pros. will be surprised if there's not an imac pro though.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 18 October 2021 17:29 (two years ago) link

HDMI

stet, Monday, 18 October 2021 17:31 (two years ago) link

thunderbolt is physically the same port as usb 3. the current m1 macs are limited by the chip (not laptop size) to two usb 3 ports. i personally don't care, but it's an ongoing complain. these new chips will hopefully raise that limit.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 18 October 2021 17:31 (two years ago) link

MAGSAFE

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 18 October 2021 17:31 (two years ago) link

damn they listened

stet, Monday, 18 October 2021 17:31 (two years ago) link

magsafe is back again awooooo

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 18 October 2021 17:31 (two years ago) link

THIC

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 18 October 2021 17:31 (two years ago) link

v THIC so no fans?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 18 October 2021 17:32 (two years ago) link

lol guess not

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 18 October 2021 17:32 (two years ago) link

sd card and magsafe niiiiice

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 18 October 2021 17:33 (two years ago) link

very good ports

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 18 October 2021 17:34 (two years ago) link

only 3 usb c ports but the addition of magsafe makes that ok imo (and the usb c's still support power delivery)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 18 October 2021 17:35 (two years ago) link

very nice display

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 18 October 2021 17:37 (two years ago) link

max is an option in 14 and 16" so we may not be getting macs today

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 18 October 2021 17:42 (two years ago) link

oof $

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 18 October 2021 17:48 (two years ago) link

Fans too. And a camera notch FUCK OFF.

assert (MatthewK), Monday, 18 October 2021 19:29 (two years ago) link

I work closely enough with the data scientists at work that I might be able to swing requesting one of these bad boys

mh, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 14:10 (two years ago) link

If Apple can now recognise text in images..... can it index that metadata for Spotlight??

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 24 October 2021 17:29 (two years ago) link

Spotlight can’t even index my home folder

calstars, Sunday, 24 October 2021 17:33 (two years ago) link

the notch on the new pro book displays is hilarious

calstars, Sunday, 24 October 2021 17:34 (two years ago) link

I don’t see why the notch is a big deal to people, the middle part of the menu bar is dead space anyway.

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 24 October 2021 17:48 (two years ago) link

I have never watched a movie on a laptop, though, because I’m not a disgusting savage.

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 24 October 2021 17:49 (two years ago) link

Exactly 0 % of display real estate is extraneous

calstars, Sunday, 24 October 2021 18:10 (two years ago) link

Then you will like the notch because it means the bit below the menu bar is 16:10 and more pixels than without the notch.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 24 October 2021 18:47 (two years ago) link

Basically you have the same screen space you had before, but you no longer lose a strip at the top to a menu bar.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 24 October 2021 18:50 (two years ago) link

more pixels than without the notch.

Sorry, no

calstars, Sunday, 24 October 2021 18:50 (two years ago) link

You can make a case that it looks bad but you can’t make a case you’re losing “real estate” to it. The alternative is no notch and a smaller screen and a bigger bezel at the top.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 24 October 2021 18:52 (two years ago) link

No, the alternative is no notch

calstars, Sunday, 24 October 2021 19:10 (two years ago) link

then where does the camera go?

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 24 October 2021 19:26 (two years ago) link

re: looks bad, I wonder if it would be distracting (or if you'd quickly learn to filter it out) but a black menu bar at the top instead of the gray I have now seems like it would take that out of play.

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 24 October 2021 19:50 (two years ago) link

Completely irrelevant because I priced one that I'd desire (32GB, 2TB SSD) and lol, of course.

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 24 October 2021 19:51 (two years ago) link

No, the alternative is no notch


Lmao

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 24 October 2021 21:03 (two years ago) link

re: looks bad, I wonder if it would be distracting (or if you'd quickly learn to filter it out) but a black menu bar at the top instead of the gray I have now seems like it would take that out of play.


Dark mode.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 24 October 2021 21:04 (two years ago) link

Cake slaying it itt

calstars, Sunday, 24 October 2021 21:18 (two years ago) link

big nostril energy

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 24 October 2021 21:44 (two years ago) link

You can lose a notch (new MacBooks), or a full width stripe the height of the notch (old MacBooks), or you can have one of those extremely cool pop up nostril cams. Those are the choices.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 24 October 2021 21:52 (two years ago) link

i thought i remembered somebody (apple?) patenting a camera that could be positioned behind a flat display, like it was actually IN the screen

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 24 October 2021 22:15 (two years ago) link

You guys are so right

calstars, Sunday, 24 October 2021 22:52 (two years ago) link

duh

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 24 October 2021 23:08 (two years ago) link

i thought i remembered somebody (apple?) patenting a camera that could be positioned behind a flat display, like it was actually IN the screen

i guess part of the problem with that idea is there's more than just the camera in there at this point. there's room for a bank of sensors, and they don't make it big for fun. there's the ambient light sensor, and tbh there's probably face id sensors in there too in a revision or two. the notch is way too wide to just be the camera.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 25 October 2021 00:04 (two years ago) link

Like uh before the camera was in the bezel now you’re saying the bezel is the display but uhhh

calstars, Monday, 25 October 2021 00:41 (two years ago) link

Fuck apple

calstars, Monday, 25 October 2021 00:42 (two years ago) link

The bezel is smaller, the screen is bigger, and there’s a notch in it.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 25 October 2021 00:53 (two years ago) link

What

calstars, Monday, 25 October 2021 00:56 (two years ago) link

Jokes aside I don’t see how you can defend a notch in the display like this. Unprecedented and subject to hall of fame ridicule if it were windows

calstars, Monday, 25 October 2021 00:59 (two years ago) link

My current one has a notch, it stretches the entire width of the screen. Looking forward to my new MBP with a much smaller notch.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 25 October 2021 01:02 (two years ago) link

Ugh

calstars, Monday, 25 October 2021 01:03 (two years ago) link

I'm unclear what you use the middle of the menu bar for tbh

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 25 October 2021 01:06 (two years ago) link

I give up

calstars, Monday, 25 October 2021 01:07 (two years ago) link

It’s a 16/10 screen. the menu bar doesn’t take up space in the 16/10 bit because it’s is up in the bezel. Think of it like that.

If you’re still struggling then maybe these guys can help https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=107926751&s=7a6b441006cacd9ee95fe544d92fda1e&pagenumber=t

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 25 October 2021 01:07 (two years ago) link

Somehow Tom cook has convinced you that less is more. Enjoy

calstars, Monday, 25 October 2021 01:10 (two years ago) link

Less what? The screen is bigger in physical size and pixels.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 25 October 2021 01:11 (two years ago) link

... it's not less though

These have a 16.2" screen vs. the previous 16"

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 25 October 2021 01:11 (two years ago) link

Sigh n/m brah

calstars, Monday, 25 October 2021 01:13 (two years ago) link

The notch on my iMac is a full inch around the screen, it's fucked up IMO

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 25 October 2021 01:15 (two years ago) link

That’s not a notch …

calstars, Monday, 25 October 2021 01:21 (two years ago) link

Were you one if those people who complained about the black bars on the top and bottom of movies cutting into the picture?

circa1916, Monday, 25 October 2021 01:27 (two years ago) link

Lol no

calstars, Monday, 25 October 2021 01:32 (two years ago) link

Not sure what else to say… enjoy your notch. It’s totally normal

calstars, Monday, 25 October 2021 01:50 (two years ago) link

Lots of laptops these days have a notch

calstars, Monday, 25 October 2021 01:51 (two years ago) link

Don’t feel like you’re the only one with a notch

calstars, Monday, 25 October 2021 01:52 (two years ago) link

Tbf I think you’re right that no one is going to copy this. The only hardware manufacturers that could make a laptop with a notch are the ones that control the operating system. And I don’t think Apple or anyone thinks this looks good. It’s just better than the alternatives.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 25 October 2021 02:01 (two years ago) link

this notch talk is mindnumbing. who fucking cares

akm, Monday, 25 October 2021 02:02 (two years ago) link

The only hardware manufacturers that could make a laptop with a notch are the ones that control the operating system..

What tae fuck are you smoking

calstars, Monday, 25 October 2021 02:07 (two years ago) link

You must taking the piss. There no other explanation. Cheers

calstars, Monday, 25 October 2021 02:09 (two years ago) link

Sorry. I will shut up now …

calstars, Monday, 25 October 2021 02:20 (two years ago) link

Asus couldn't unilaterally make changes to Windows basic UI, probably?

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 25 October 2021 02:31 (two years ago) link

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/10/samsung-tablet-leak-shows-notched-display-just-like-in-the-new-macbook-pro/


Everyone saw the Macbook Pro announcement last week, right? Apple has made the controversial design decision to bring the iPhone notch to some of its laptops, minimizing bezel space but introducing an awkward cutout on the display area. Now, Samsung is apparently working on bringing the same idea to tablets. The reliable leaker, Steve Hemmerstoffer, aka "OnLeaks," has created renders of the Galaxy Tab S8 Ultra design, and it basically looks like someone cut off the top half of a Macbook Pro, complete with that weird notch.
...
Notching a tablet is a pretty strange idea. Was anyone calling for smaller bezels than what you get in something like the leaked S8 Tab design? You hold a tablet by its bezels, so the goal shouldn't be a zero-bezel device like on a smartphone. The move will get Samsung some attention, though.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 25 October 2021 19:33 (two years ago) link

putting a notch on a thing you sometimes use in portrait and sometimes in landscape and on which the bezels are actually useful.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 25 October 2021 19:35 (two years ago) link

not the thread for it but i'm intrigued by this drooling review and some of the features they talk about sound pretty useful

https://gizmodo.com/the-pixel-6-is-so-good-why-buy-anything-else-1847927331

Tracer Hand, Monday, 25 October 2021 21:22 (two years ago) link

am I too late to hop in on some hot notch action

talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 13:27 (two years ago) link

the notch can be your niche if you can fit your commentary in the slot

mh, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 14:26 (two years ago) link

rowr

talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 14:31 (two years ago) link

I'm pretty close to buying an iPhone after years of Android, mostly because I'm missing some action on the group chat (video gets shared via iMessage only, FaceTime etc)

The only thing holding me back at this point is that it is sooooo nice to have only USB-C charging - phone, iPad, MacBook all use the same charger.

lukas, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 15:50 (two years ago) link

Are you by any chance an undercover official of the European Commission, in propagandising mode or perhaps hoping to out any unwary Brexit-leaning Apple fans: EU common charging solution ?

Luna Schlosser, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 16:09 (two years ago) link

I'm just a normal consumer out here saying that the charging port and fast charging technology must be harmonised.

lukas, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:42 (two years ago) link

calstars you can have the old display back https://topnotch.app/

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 30 October 2021 16:24 (two years ago) link

I'm pretty close to buying an iPhone after years of Android, mostly because I'm missing some action on the group chat (video gets shared via iMessage only, FaceTime etc)

The only thing holding me back at this point is that it is sooooo nice to have only USB-C charging - phone, iPad, MacBook all use the same charger.

I've got some great news for you, lukas:

https://www.macrumors.com/2021/11/04/usb-c-iphone-ebay-auction/

Alba, Thursday, 4 November 2021 14:34 (two years ago) link

;_;

lukas, Thursday, 4 November 2021 17:04 (two years ago) link

dumb question - i have an old macbook pro (like about eight years old) that i mostly use for making music. it works pretty well but it runs slow, especially starting back up and starting applications. would installing more RAM help with this? if so, seems like an easy/cheap fix, right?

na (NA), Thursday, 11 November 2021 16:19 (two years ago) link

you have an SSD drive or regular?

dan selzer, Thursday, 11 November 2021 16:44 (two years ago) link

probably regular - looks like that was the default

na (NA), Thursday, 11 November 2021 16:50 (two years ago) link

Generally speaking ram is an easier upgrade on old macs. switching to an SSD is a bigger performance boost but involves a reinstall or data migration and is trickier to physically install. This is all assuming your Mac is old enough for both parts to be user replaceable.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 11 November 2021 17:02 (two years ago) link

if it's possible to do an SSD, that's a huge boost. It's not so hard. If you have an old machine w/ an optical drive you can replace that with the SSD, then transfer everything over to the SSD and boot up with that. You've also just doubled your storage.

dan selzer, Thursday, 11 November 2021 17:32 (two years ago) link

The alternative is to buy an SSD and a $10 external USB enclosure (anything SATA to USB3 off eBay will do, pretty much) then use the free CarbonCopyCloner to duplicate the internal drive to the SSD in the case. Switch the drives and you now have an internal SSD and an external backup drive in the case. The switch is the most challenging but it’d be about a dozen small screws (line them up on a flat fridge magnet to preserve the arrangement) and a couple of small Torx screws mounting the disk in its rubber mounts. Half an hour’s work. I’ve done this about 10-15 times for a range of people’s laptops.

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 11 November 2021 20:41 (two years ago) link

8 years old is on the cusp of when they started to switch to SSDs so you better google the model number (hold down option key, choose System Info under the Apple menu)

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 11 November 2021 20:42 (two years ago) link

Or just look in in the Storage section of About This Mac’s System Report

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203001

Alba, Thursday, 11 November 2021 21:10 (two years ago) link

use the free CarbonCopyCloner to duplicate the internal drive to the SSD in the case. Switch the drives and you now have an internal SSD and an external backup drive in the case.


Bootable clones are pretty tricky these days if the OS is reasonably up to date.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 11 November 2021 22:01 (two years ago) link

Why is that? Haven’t used it in a while but used to depend on superduper.

dan selzer, Thursday, 11 November 2021 22:24 (two years ago) link

Alba holding the option key takes you straight there without going thru About This Mac.
And I have used CCC to create bootable HDD clones up to at least 10.13, and that machine wouldn't run anything more recent.

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 11 November 2021 22:39 (two years ago) link

Apfs means there’s lots of volumes on a disk, and cryptographic signatures of volumes means a naive bit for bit copy won’t boot. The CCC and super duper maintainers are doing heroics but seem to be on the verge of giving up on the bootable clone use case for apple silicon.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 11 November 2021 23:15 (two years ago) link

Great, thanks for the info. I just updated my home computer from Mojave to Monterey (I know) and it froze near the end. I waited hours then finally gave up. Rebooted and installed again but instead of updating my system disk it did a clean install, so I was afraid I’d lost lots of settings and things. Was esp worried about losing iTunes/music playlists. So I did a migration from my time machine and almost everything is back in order.

dan selzer, Friday, 12 November 2021 00:34 (two years ago) link

Macs last so long now for a lot of people that I think they don’t realise how good migration has become over the past five years or so.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 12 November 2021 01:20 (two years ago) link

yeah I was always pro super duper because just cloning back to my start-up disk from a day or two ago seemed easier than some sketchy "maybe there's some stuff I can dig out of time machine" but really this worked incredibly smooth.

My only problem now is I can't get back to a song I was working on in ableton, probably because it uses some plug-in that's not playing nice with Monterey. I think I had already wiped all my 32-bit relics but who knows.

dan selzer, Friday, 12 November 2021 01:49 (two years ago) link

ugh it's not 32bit that's an issue, it's probably aggressive gatekeepering from OSX on these plugins that I have to figure out a workaround.

dan selzer, Friday, 12 November 2021 02:16 (two years ago) link

For calstars

@siracusa the "cleanest" way to get rid of the notch without having to deal with a suboptimal resolution is to just set a 16:10 resolution:https://t.co/N2E0RkHypS

— Roberto Jung Drebes (@drebes) November 5, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 12 November 2021 02:19 (two years ago) link

they don’t realise how good migration has become over the past five years or so

My folks had a 2009 iMac and recently bought one of the new M1s. The old machine had had an SSD upgrade (by me, 4 years ago) so I fished the drive out and put it in a USB3 enclosure, then chose it in Migration Assistant to bring onto the new machine. It took seven days to complete the migration, from a half full 500GB drive (basically just photos, iTunes and email). SEVEN DAYS. So not all fixed!

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 12 November 2021 02:56 (two years ago) link

oh and it was running 10.13 uneventfully, without errors on the drive. Can't recall if it was APFS but I doubt it.

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 12 November 2021 02:57 (two years ago) link

Alba holding the option key takes you straight there without going thru About This Mac.


Ah cool. But I meant the info there tells you directly what kind of hard disk you have without having to Google the model number.

Alba, Friday, 12 November 2021 03:14 (two years ago) link

oh yeah! I'm used to asking for diagnostic info from my folks over the phone, which involves the minimum number of clicks and least opportunity for confusion ...

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 12 November 2021 03:28 (two years ago) link

Adam Engst! TidBits! Man I had forgotten about them.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 12 November 2021 09:43 (two years ago) link

World that cover batteries?

calstars, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 19:54 (two years ago) link

The initial phase of the program will focus on the most commonly serviced modules, such as the iPhone display, battery, and camera. The ability for additional repairs will be available later next year.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 21:06 (two years ago) link

"Intellectual property considerations cannot be allowed to stand in the way of a customer's right to repair equipment that they have purchased," said Bruce Perens, an open source pioneer, venture capital firm board member, and CEO of a stealth startup, in an email to The Register. "Apple is simply acknowledging this fact before right-to-repair is legislated and they have no choice."

Apple may also be recognizing the growing importance of revenue from services as opposed to hardware sales. If, as some analysts have predicted, services come to represent the majority of Apple's profit by mid-decade, the Cupertino titan will have more incentive to focus on retaining customers (and associated monthly subscription fees) and less pressure to convince them to buy shiny new iThings every year or two.

https://www.theregister.com/2021/11/17/apple_diy_repair/

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 23:12 (two years ago) link

"CEO of a stealth startup"? I may need to use that.

bulb after bulb, Thursday, 18 November 2021 01:08 (two years ago) link

So did some kind of lawsuit or pending EU regulation trigger this event?

Nhex, Friday, 19 November 2021 14:14 (two years ago) link

the Register article i link there makes it pretty clear this is getting out ahead of legislation yes

Tracer Hand, Friday, 19 November 2021 14:19 (two years ago) link

Gotcha. Though it doesn't seem like any of those actually passed yet and even with the current administration I'm sure manufacturers of all stripes can keep delaying and killing those bills, at least for the US I have no faith

Nhex, Friday, 19 November 2021 14:24 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

i have a wellness allowance to spend by the end of the year and can't think of anything so ... i guess i'm getting an apple watch (eligible as a fitness tracker)?

does anyone have them? they are bad right?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 6 December 2021 22:27 (two years ago) link

No they’re great. I barely use it but it’s nice to glance down and see if it’s worth taking the phone out of your pocket when you get a call or msg. That alone is cool.

dan selzer, Monday, 6 December 2021 22:29 (two years ago) link

yeah trying to get off my phone around the kids, and this seems like it might help with that?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 6 December 2021 22:30 (two years ago) link

Lol
Apple doesn’t even have to market this shit. Its acolytes do it in their heads

calstars, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 01:20 (two years ago) link

At risk of sounding like a dreaded acolyte, when the pandemic started I got pretty OCD about closing the rings on the Apple watch fitness app. Within the first six months I lost 25 pounds and a year later I still kept it off, have no problem hiking 6+ miles up into the San Gabriels, and generally just feel better from hauling less of me around. I didn't do anything other than let the fitness app nag me to get up and move around.

Apart from all that physical tracking stuff, I use the timer and that's it - but the fitness tracking is essential.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 11:15 (two years ago) link

My primary watch use cases are shopping lists, transit times, controlling podcasts/music, Apple Pay, todo/calendar notifications.

Jeff, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 13:06 (two years ago) link

I refuse to buy a watch that needs to be charged.

o. nate, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 16:05 (two years ago) link

"winding"

When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 17:14 (two years ago) link

"automatic"

poster of sparks (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 19:03 (two years ago) link

I'm happy with my Casio digital watch. I've had it for a few years, and I think it's still on its original battery.

o. nate, Thursday, 9 December 2021 15:57 (two years ago) link

i have a seiko automatic and i'm smug about it

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 9 December 2021 16:19 (two years ago) link

I don't even own a watch.

pplains, Thursday, 9 December 2021 16:40 (two years ago) link

i haven't needed a watch to know what time it is for years, but i like the apple "watch" so far (3 days).

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 9 December 2021 17:16 (two years ago) link

I don't like to carry a phone with me at all times, so it's useful for me to have a watch to be able to check the time. But I admit I'm unusual.

o. nate, Thursday, 9 December 2021 17:33 (two years ago) link

it’s very nice not to have to fish one’s phone out to glance at the time. this of course assumes that one is ever not looking at one’s phone which is admittedly a bit of a leap

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 9 December 2021 17:46 (two years ago) link

ah i'm not looking at my phone for the time. it's a mixture of not needing to know the time, being at a computer, having lots of clocks, and never leaving the house on account of the novel coronavirus.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 9 December 2021 17:48 (two years ago) link

btw the lovely Emma B now owns a 16” M1 MBP. i kept gushing about it, “the most sophisticated laptop ever made” etc and she’s like, yeah it seems good. doesn’t give me any trouble. a little on the heavy side tbh!

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 9 December 2021 17:57 (two years ago) link

I was being flippant in an "I don't even own a TV" way. ("Sorry, I don't television watch.")

For the same reasons o. nate and Tracer mention, I got into this weird spree of buying $1 watches off of Wish a few years ago. It was nice walking down the street and casually looking at the time. But I'm just not a wearables guy. I'd take the watch off at my desk and forget about it.

And while I didn't miss having to fish through my pocket to find my phone, I do like being able to bury it somewhere. With the watch, I wasn't crazy about always having the time of day within eyeshot. I like being able to check my watch, but I don't think I'm up for having my watch check on me.

pplains, Thursday, 9 December 2021 18:37 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

Found a great MBP configuration that I could justify spending the $$$ on: 14" M1Pro 10-core, 32GB RAM, 4TB HD. $3559 with an edu discount. Good grief this thing rips.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 6 February 2022 06:25 (two years ago) link

I'd take the watch off at my desk

just found your problem, pplains

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 6 February 2022 15:41 (two years ago) link

what, are they making desktop watches now?

pplains, Sunday, 6 February 2022 18:11 (two years ago) link

iclocks

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Monday, 7 February 2022 03:14 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

I really need to learn to use 3d modeling software so I can ironically join the group of weird apple superfans who insist on mocking up products they think apple will announce

They're churning out ideas like "tall mac mini" but I could contribute to the dialogue by showing them "mac that is inexplicably wide" or "monitor that is round for some reason"

mh, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 16:41 (two years ago) link

you should follow nanoraptor

There is only one acceptable design for the Mac Studio. pic.twitter.com/A8B3ho3Qie

— Dana Sibera (@NanoRaptor) March 8, 2022

, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 16:45 (two years ago) link

Cube G4 ruled
Except when it randomly rebooted

calstars, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 17:36 (two years ago) link

I think Ned still has his?

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 17:37 (two years ago) link

SD card on the front is a tiny thing to get excited about but i am

stet, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 18:39 (two years ago) link

i would accept a studio and the new monitor, thanks

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 19:05 (two years ago) link

a little bit out of loop on this stuff - for a lightroom library, what’s the performance hit of having it sit on 1. external ssd or 2. external spinny magnet drive vs. the internal ssd?

imagine 2. is pretty bad but wondering if you can save some money by rolling your own ssd scratch drive vs paying the apple tax on maxing out the internal drive

, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 19:15 (two years ago) link

I think if you have a nice thunderbolt 4 enclosure and a good ssd it'd be a hit, but acceptable

two lols:
- the base Mac Studio model has 512GB of storage
- the Studio Display tech specs page does not list refresh rate anywhere at all. tell me it's 60Hz without telling me it's 60Hz

mh, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 19:31 (two years ago) link

why not just go with external SSD at this point?

Nhex, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 19:32 (two years ago) link

and why does a 5K display cost more than the 27" Mac did

Nhex, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 19:34 (two years ago) link

i guess they are finally giving us that upper-mid range souped-up Mac Mini that some people have requested for years with the Studio, so good?

Nhex, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 19:37 (two years ago) link

Is 60Hz bad (or less good) if you don’t play games? Like more eye strain in regular use or anything?

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 19:39 (two years ago) link

60Hz is absolutely fine, but they've been touting 120Hz and variable refresh rates on the phones and tablets and the most recent Macbook Pro has that too (ProMotion is their branding)

mh, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 19:52 (two years ago) link

variable refresh on the mobile devices is really nice because it cuts power consumption by quite a bit when the screen is relatively static

mh, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 19:54 (two years ago) link

I had to go and look up the refresh rate at the monitor I stare at 10 hours a day, and really really like, it’s 60Hz and seems to work just fine, not working with video or games. Not listed anywhere on the HP site, either. I think refresh rate isn’t really relavent if you aren’t refreshing the whole field of vision every frame. Like who cares when the only thing that changes is the single character under the cursor.

It’s UHD, and whenever I go at look at my wife’s 1080 monitor, my old one, I wonder at how I ever put up with that blocky crap. So I guess I value pixel density above refresh rate.

HP Z27, it’s a purchase I’ve never once regretted.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 19:58 (two years ago) link

apple's big sell has been pixel density, for sure

nobody else is even pretending to give much of a shit about that outside of phones/tablets

mh, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 19:59 (two years ago) link

and why does a 5K display cost more than the 27" Mac did

― Nhex, Tuesday, March 8, 2022 2:34 PM (twenty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

it's a much better display

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 19:59 (two years ago) link

a little bit out of loop on this stuff - for a lightroom library, what’s the performance hit of having it sit on 1. external ssd or 2. external spinny magnet drive vs. the internal ssd?

unless the library is well over 2TB, don't get a spinning external disk. they're big and slow.

get an nvme stick and enclosure if this is for a desktop, or just pay the storage tax if this is for a laptop. it's a rip off but it simplifies software and hardware a lot.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 20:03 (two years ago) link

my thinking when i paid an insane amount ($600?) to max out storage on my m1 air (to 2TB, way more than i need): i cannot make these changes after market and my last macbook air lasted 8 years.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 20:06 (two years ago) link

I wanted this mac studio for years, since I have my own and better monitor already, but ended up getting a macbook pro m1 max. At least I can move it around.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 20:15 (two years ago) link

question that possibly no one has any answer to:

I’m pondering the jump to a new MBP for work. There’s a thin slice of my current work that requires Windows. It sounds like the Windows Insider ARM build works really well with Parallels on the current M1/macOS setup. What’s the chance that Microsoft decides they’re going to just drop support or cut off that version from download?

Presumably Parallels is interested in getting licensing worked out so they can eventually sell a bundle?

mh, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 22:42 (two years ago) link

don't know, but i can't imagine *MS* making arm support (broadly defined) worse in 2021. seems more likely that apple would break something via security improvements.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 22:51 (two years ago) link

siracusa runs windows on his mac pro (he plays destiny), so he occasionally refers to windows difficulties on ask atp, and is switching to apple silicon soon (might be waiting for the pro). maybe he'll get into it.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 22:54 (two years ago) link

thank god it’s siracusa and not you-know-who 🤣

mh, Wednesday, 9 March 2022 01:02 (two years ago) link

Gabneb?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 9 March 2022 01:36 (two years ago) link

it's a much better display


Is it? The panels specs look similar (though the camera/speakers do look better)

60hz is a pity but afaik no cables have the bandwidth for 5k@120; they’d have to use dual Thunderbolt cables to drive it

stet, Wednesday, 9 March 2022 01:40 (two years ago) link

Ha no sorry it isn’t, I was looking at the pro xdr!

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 9 March 2022 02:51 (two years ago) link

My god, it's a desktop computer. I never thought Apple would make another.

(No the other two don't count, exercise left to the reader.)

brisk money (lukas), Wednesday, 9 March 2022 04:35 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyT_hqrSzxI

, Wednesday, 9 March 2022 15:03 (two years ago) link

I haven’t really paid attention to these new things but I did just get a refurb of the lowest spec M1 MacBook Air. I haven’t had an apple laptop in many years, but it’s just a joy to use.

Jeff, Wednesday, 9 March 2022 15:24 (two years ago) link

Only $850! Cheaper than my phone.

Jeff, Wednesday, 9 March 2022 15:26 (two years ago) link

Sometimes I still can’t believe I worked on this. It was a strange and really cool time in user interface design. https://t.co/4fb8ghDnhf

— Sebastiaan de With (@sdw) March 11, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 11 March 2022 21:20 (two years ago) link

Bah. That was a shit time in UI design.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 11 March 2022 23:33 (two years ago) link

I saw someone non ironically using a 4 or 4S this week

calstars, Saturday, 12 March 2022 03:20 (two years ago) link

I use a 4S daily, but only as a music player for my car

assert (MatthewK), Saturday, 12 March 2022 03:34 (two years ago) link

Was anyone else besides Apple doing that weird felt/leather replication thing in their UIs?

Nhex, Saturday, 12 March 2022 15:50 (two years ago) link

eh not really an example but i'll take the joke

Nhex, Tuesday, 15 March 2022 03:19 (two years ago) link

third time lucky posting this. "skeuomorphic"

https://99designs.com.au/blog/creative-inspiration/truly-lickable-skeuomorphic-designs/

i have digital synths in linux made to look like the synths they replicate but that's a different thing, a copy of an actual thing, not a style.

https://99designs-blog.imgix.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/skeuomorphism-10.jpg?auto=format&q=60&fit=max&w=930

koogs, Tuesday, 15 March 2022 11:56 (two years ago) link

a bunch of old Windows junk had skeuomorphic bits, but the macOS X/early iOS apps did it a bit better. I also don’t really miss it at all

mh, Tuesday, 15 March 2022 14:33 (two years ago) link

Two months in and my M1 Pro MPB 14" is a strong contender for the best laptop I've owned. I've gone most of the day on battery and rarely go below 70%. Fan hasn't come on once. Gawd just the increase in graphics switching to a second monitor alone. I think I'm going to accumulate a couple extra days of life just from now having to wait around on that.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 06:48 (two years ago) link

I feel exactly the same about mine. It could do with being smaller – I've got too used to having an MacBook Air – but I'm not sure what I'd want to give up about it to make it so.

stet, Thursday, 24 March 2022 14:43 (two years ago) link

not letting myself buy a new MBP (to replace my late 2016 MBP) until I finish my taxes

but I am letting myself configure one on the store. apparently Windows gaming via Parallels is shit, so there's no reason for me to get a Max. 16" Pro, 16Gb RAM it shall be.

brisk money (lukas), Thursday, 24 March 2022 16:16 (two years ago) link

Having suffered the touchbar 15" for coming-up-to five years, I finally cracked and asked work for a new machine. Standard replacement lifecycle is 3 years but they make it so pointlessly difficult to get a Mac rather than a janky Dell piece of garbage that they can remote configure to run like shit, that it takes me 2 years to psych up for the fight. Hoping the M1 makes life better.

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 24 March 2022 22:03 (two years ago) link

i still love my 2017 touchbar macbook ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 24 March 2022 22:13 (two years ago) link

The machine itself works OK, but the keyboard had to be replaced (and still sounds like throwing Scrabble tiles in a bucket) and the connectivity is shit, every monitor I've had to connect through quite-expensive dongles has periodically glitched out. We've gradually made our peace I guess.

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 24 March 2022 22:46 (two years ago) link

My 2014mbp fans are getting a little wheezy and I only get 10 minutes of battery life but otherwise the old guy is fine

calstars, Thursday, 24 March 2022 22:59 (two years ago) link

Still running a 2012 first gen retina model here beside me because I have a major application which can't run on Big Sur. The fan is nattering away and it has a GPU panic every few days, but otherwise gettin' it done. The 2017 will shift to that role if I can downgrade the OS.

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 24 March 2022 23:22 (two years ago) link

2014mbp here too, but I paid a guy round the corner to replace the battery (and remove a ton of dust in the process), so it'll do me for a while yet.

Daughter's 2020 m1 mba is in another league. Only time I get to touch it is if I'm entering my PayPal details to buy something for her. She's had to switch to the Intel version of Ps via Rosetta for her animation work (no video layers in the Apple silicon version), but even that seems to fly along.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 24 March 2022 23:41 (two years ago) link

My kid has the same mba and yeah I’m PayPal only but nice box

calstars, Thursday, 24 March 2022 23:48 (two years ago) link

Running a 2020 M1 MBP myself since June and yeah, it's fucking fantastic. I'd been living with a 2013 model until last year and it was still running strong, but the difference is unbelievable.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 25 March 2022 00:06 (two years ago) link

2019 MBP. it's a piece of shit I literally hate it

im zelenky (||||||||), Friday, 25 March 2022 21:05 (two years ago) link

2010 MBP still hanging in there, with maxed out RAM and a new-now-old battery. I feel like I should upgrade although my old timer still does the few things I use it for (rather than my iPad)

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 25 March 2022 21:33 (two years ago) link

I use an M1 Air and really like it. Seems really fast and the keyboard is such a pleasure after years of using touch-bar models.

beard papa, Saturday, 26 March 2022 01:50 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akQB35Am8lI

bit the bullet and ordered a base mac studio with an m1 ultra. tl;dr of the youtube is that the m1 ultra 2x's a lot of lightroom tasks vs. the m1 max. fwiw i currently have a m1 mac mini with 8gb memory that absolutely chokes on lightroom with my workflow.

the price difference is not that bad when you compare it against the mbp, a 14" mbp with a m1 max and identical ram/tb to the base m1 ultra mac studio is $3500. of course you're sacrificing portability and that nice mini LED screen but i'm not really a laptop guy so it'd be wasted on me. plus, ultrafusion! also, i'm committing tax arbitrage by traveling to a tax-free state to buy, now that apple lets you select in-store pickup for future dates, so saving a bit of cash. what'd really be nice is if costco got their supply chain in order - they have the base m1 ultra mac studio for $3800 but it's oos. that's a bargain!

, Tuesday, 29 March 2022 11:19 (two years ago) link

you selling that mac mini? :)

mh, Tuesday, 29 March 2022 18:36 (two years ago) link

4real loving my 2021 m1 iMac and glad I didn't get suckered into a "pro" model when really I'm just playing paradox games, browsing the internet and pretending to produce music with logic once a year. Happy that their pro stuff is actually for pro's so no more fomo

hrep (H.P), Wednesday, 30 March 2022 01:10 (two years ago) link

biggest reason for enjoyment is how nice she looks sitting on my kitchen table. Can't really make a statement like that with a laptop ya know

hrep (H.P), Wednesday, 30 March 2022 01:12 (two years ago) link

the mac mini will be transitioned into HTPC duties, although last time I tried I remember there's some weird fuckery about whether you can stream 4K on a desktop vs. a drm locked down apple TV etc.

, Wednesday, 30 March 2022 12:34 (two years ago) link

Sell the mini, get an aTV 4K, so much simpler and better. Plus you get to keep the change. If you want to stream off a server, Infuse is superb and not expensive.

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 30 March 2022 12:45 (two years ago) link

plus phones and iPads as remotes, etc etc

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 30 March 2022 12:46 (two years ago) link

play too much downloaded content to fully commit to an apple tv

, Wednesday, 30 March 2022 14:16 (two years ago) link

That's what Plex is for.

Everybody Loves Ramen (WmC), Wednesday, 30 March 2022 14:22 (two years ago) link

NAS (which is a little long in the tooth but has enough compute power to run the Plex backend) plus Apple TV over here. Works like a charm

mh, Wednesday, 30 March 2022 14:29 (two years ago) link

AppleTV sees the library on my mac so I can play all music/videos that are on my desktop. Maybe not as powerful as a plex type deal, but does the job for me.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 30 March 2022 15:29 (two years ago) link

i have a NAS that i never got around to using because it was too complicated.

i have access to my friend's plex and it's cool, but not something i think i'd ever set up. too much work and it feels like oh great, another library to manage and maintain and upkeep - my music library is messy enough as it is!

, Wednesday, 30 March 2022 18:49 (two years ago) link

play too much downloaded content to fully commit to an apple tv

er, I know someone with 8TB of films and television series sitting on a NAS, and Infuse catalogues it all, downloads metadata and artwork, gives fully sorted graphical browse menus, full control over aspect ratios, audio, subtitles, heck will even download subtitles mid viewing. And that person’s parents in their late 70s run the same setup, browsing a hard drive plugged into their iMac from the television. It even remembers what you’ve seen across different devices, with viewers on iOS, iPadOS and macOS as well.

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 30 March 2022 19:32 (two years ago) link

I just drop all my music purchases/downloads on a NAS folder and use Plexamp on my phone now. 😈

mh, Wednesday, 30 March 2022 19:45 (two years ago) link

xp

huh, infuse is neat! i've been (half-heartedly) searching for an iOS media player for a while now, no idea that one was just hanging out.

now the question is, is there a way to surf the web on apple TV that isn't painful? that's the other thing we like to do on our current htpc.

, Wednesday, 30 March 2022 23:07 (two years ago) link

Hm, can't say I have a snappy answer for that one! But I've never seen a usable web browser on a TV. I guess one can screenshare to an aTV and browse via a more congenial device.

assert (MatthewK), Wednesday, 30 March 2022 23:45 (two years ago) link

and yeah Infuse was like oh, at last, *that's* the thing.

assert (MatthewK), Wednesday, 30 March 2022 23:45 (two years ago) link

I just drop all my music purchases/downloads on a NAS folder and use Plexamp on my phone now. 😈


Do you pay for a Plexpass?

brisk money (lukas), Thursday, 31 March 2022 02:08 (two years ago) link

you don’t have to pay to stream local content.

beard papa, Thursday, 31 March 2022 02:27 (two years ago) link

I believe you do for the Plexamp app. Plex doesn’t have a lot of compelling premium features, but I like that one and shelled out for the lifetime pass option a few years back.

I previously would use Apple’s Music Match feature, which was something like $15/year and seemed (seems? not sure if it still exists) like it could disappear. It wasn’t perfect at matching/uploading but was pretty decent, could listen to all my music wherever.

Plexamp connects back to my home library from anywhere, lets you set up rules for keeping a local cache on the device, and overall does all the stuff I expect

mh, Thursday, 31 March 2022 13:04 (two years ago) link

what's the best itunes/apple music alternative? that'd be the other use case for a mac mini htpc / apple tv - streaming music from my base mac

, Thursday, 31 March 2022 13:05 (two years ago) link

hmm the apple tv only has an hdmi out, so any optical out would probably have to be run from the tv, and removes the ability to hook up a usb dac or something (I don't have a receiver and refuse to get one)

, Thursday, 31 March 2022 13:07 (two years ago) link

well, i ran into some bad luck yesterday. i've had this awesome 2020 macbook pro 13" (M1 model, albeit one with only two ports! lol) for a couple months. An old acquaintance of mine was selling it in almost brand new condition and at a great price, so it was an instant huge upgrade on my old laptop.

anyway, the screen cracked out of nowhere. but not because i dropped it, or anything at all. i was using the computer. i closed it, just like i've closed computers a million times before. i went out back and played with my beloved dog for a while. i came back inside and lifted the lid, and there was a huge distortion on the left side of the screen, and then it spread to some vertical lines elsewhere. for a few minutes, the computer was still usable, but when i rebooted, it was much worse, just totally busted.

it turns out a lot of people are experiencing something similar (https://www.makeuseof.com/m1-macbook-screens-cracking/), and there's a class action thing brewing? i don't want or expect a ton of money out of any settlement, but it would be nice to get a reduced cost replacement. i knew what was coming when i talked to the geniuses, at it was a $550 fix. just way the fuck too expensive for me, especially when it could happen again

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 6 April 2022 22:15 (two years ago) link

what are you all using for a NAS? I've finally realized I need one; I've got a macbook pro running plex off a hard drive but I'd rather have something else that I can just leave on, dedicated to streaming. and how is infuse different from plex?

akm, Wednesday, 6 April 2022 22:28 (two years ago) link

I’ve heard good things about Synology NAS products

I’ve got a Western Digital PR2100 that is long in the tooth but still works well.

mh, Thursday, 7 April 2022 00:41 (two years ago) link

Yeah Synology products are great - I've had two 4-drive versions I bought used. Earlier this year I retired the DS413J which was ten years old (and I still got $150 for it used, without drives included). Bought a DS415+ which is also quite old (8 years) but much more capable, for $250 (Aus). Slotted the drives from the old one into it, it downloaded the latest OS and ticked away for about ten minutes, boom, same setup up and running. It will do lots of advanced stuff like run virtual machines, but for me it just feeds files over the network (including 4K data rate) and automatically backs things up. If a drive fails, it tells me, I pull the drive and swap it for another and it spends a day rebuilding all the parity etc. No loss of data or availability, never skipped a beat in the five years I had the earlier model. Configure and operate via a web interface. Indispensable for me.

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 7 April 2022 02:16 (two years ago) link

if i order something direct from apple.com that won't ship for 8-10 weeks, am i right in thinking that 1) they won't run the credit card until it's about to ship and 2) i can cancel the order right up until it ships?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 17:48 (two years ago) link

I don’t think so. I just checked back on my (US-based) MacBook order last August 12th and they charged my card on the 14th and told me it had shipped on the 16th.

Alba, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 18:51 (two years ago) link

Though I guess that a shorter timeframe.

Alba, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 18:52 (two years ago) link

Yeah I’m talking months here.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 18:53 (two years ago) link

even if they run the card, they will refund it if you cancel...

calstars, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 18:54 (two years ago) link

and yes you should be able to cancel until it ships

calstars, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 18:54 (two years ago) link

or is being 'prepared for shipment' as they say

calstars, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 18:55 (two years ago) link

yeah that's my understanding. it's a vulgar amount of money though so i'm kind of interested in when they'll run the card too.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 19:02 (two years ago) link

They don’t run the card until it ships.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 19:20 (two years ago) link

source: my brother has a Studio Ultra due in June

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 19:23 (two years ago) link

Yeah, my experience is that you get a charge within a day or so of the shipping

mh, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 20:30 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

new work macbook pro arrived. good stuff so far!

mh, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 13:53 (one year ago) link

i have an SE 3 and so far it feels exactly like my SE 2, which is good because i liked my SE 2, but i literally can’t tell the difference. (normally i would have held on for another couple of years but the queue for my old phone had become very vocal)

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 20:23 (one year ago) link

AirPod Pros fuckin’ rule. Got them discounted through a work thing even though I wasn’t particularly clamoring, but I’ve been using them while working out these past two weeks and it’s made the experience significantly more enjoyable. Beyond the fact that they finally fit firmly in my ear and the sound quality is really good (considering the size and y’know streaming apps), the noise cancellation is the game changer.

I don’t have any other noise cancellation buds to compare them too, but it’s kinda freaky sci-fi shit when you activate them for the first time. Will make running on a treadmill actually fun with the right music and I can’t imagine getting on a plane again without them.

circa1916, Thursday, 26 May 2022 01:57 (one year ago) link

I hate both computers and new things, so I’m surprised to find myself saying that Monterey is kind of nice.

brisk money (lukas), Saturday, 28 May 2022 00:47 (one year ago) link

I finally gave in and got an SE 3 to replace my SE 1, which was becoming borderline unusable due to having only 16GB of storage space. I miss the smaller form factor and the home button that actually moves (haptic touch helps a bit but its still not the same), but its nice to not have to worry about deleting one app to make room for another one whenever you need to do something.

o. nate, Friday, 3 June 2022 02:46 (one year ago) link

Unexpectedly appealing presentations yesterday. Thinking this might be the year I finally replace my 12 (!) yo MBP. Now question will be whether to go for the new Air or MBP

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 20:41 (one year ago) link

I'd go the Air unless you have a huge need for GPU grunt etc - the leap of an M2 over a 12 year old i5 would be pretty huge. Just max out the RAM if poss.

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 00:26 (one year ago) link

Always sad to hear again that my iMac will no longer be supported (late 2015). Them's the breaks! I'm gonna try to squeeze another couple years outta this, since I had to burn some cash to fix it last year.

Nhex, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 02:31 (one year ago) link

The 13” mbp is pointless. I don’t understand who the market for it is. Get an air for less or a 14” mbp for more.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 04:16 (one year ago) link

Gurman says there's a new 12" in the works which I'm v. v. excited for. Despite being slow as all hell and having the shit keyboard and no ports my 12" MB is my all-time favourite form factor, I think.

stet, Thursday, 9 June 2022 16:27 (one year ago) link

Likewise, that's very exciting - my M1 MBA is amazing but I really miss the weight of the 12", the only laptop that I could completely forget I was carrying.

toby, Friday, 10 June 2022 12:09 (one year ago) link

Me otoh I’m holding out for a 15” MBP or - dare I hope? - MBA

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 10 June 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link

just got one of these

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k8-pro-qmk-via-wireless-mechanical-keyboard?variant=39755425874009

it's pretty nice. i would say the only downside is how incredibly cool it makes me look.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 22:20 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/0mPSKFP.gif

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 22:38 (one year ago) link

I got one of those but didn’t feel cool enough to use it so I gave it to my kid. He LOVES it.

DJI, Thursday, 16 June 2022 15:04 (one year ago) link

i use an AEK II, it’s OK but i’m going to switch to the new apple keyboard with touchid for full 1pw / keychain integration

, Thursday, 16 June 2022 16:51 (one year ago) link

i was going to velcro my touchid keyboard to the bottom of my desk when this thing arrived, but it turns out you basically don't need one if you have an apple watch.

the combination of an apple watch and a mechnical keyboard also makes me look extremely cool.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 16 June 2022 17:03 (one year ago) link

I can’t wait until the watch has a notch

calstars, Thursday, 16 June 2022 17:33 (one year ago) link

how much watch can a watch notch watch

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 16 June 2022 17:35 (one year ago) link

Question: my mum, who's finally decided to replace her horrible 2000s PC desktop, is thinking of getting an iMac.

She basically just uses it for Photoshop, emails, web browsing and music - she already has an iPad and iPhone.

Are they suitable? She's in her 70s and very active but impatient with computers. We suggested an iMac because she keeps asking useless computer guys around to do her IT, and we figured Macs are more reliable - is that right?

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 20 June 2022 12:49 (one year ago) link

Yes I'd say so

You might consider a Mini, if she already has a decent monitor, keyboard, mouse

Tracer Hand, Monday, 20 June 2022 13:02 (one year ago) link

Coming from a turn-of-the-century PC desktop, any Mac will likely seem like a walk in the park.

Hell, she can even still use Outlook on it, if she really wants to.

pplains, Monday, 20 June 2022 13:31 (one year ago) link

Desktop iMacs are pretty superpowered these days. I'd see if you can talk her into a MacBook, which will do everything she wants, is super easy to use, and might be less expensive.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 20 June 2022 13:32 (one year ago) link

How does she currently listen to music on her desktop pc? Is it by streaming or through mp3 files, or even by putting a CD in the cd drive?

Luna Schlosser, Monday, 20 June 2022 14:47 (one year ago) link

Listens to Spotify occasionally, that's it!

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 20 June 2022 15:38 (one year ago) link

My mom was in a similar boat a few years ago and bought herself an iMac. She’s loved it. Easy to use, malware less of a worry, can FaceTime without hassle, etc. Has bad eyesight and doesn’t really care as much about portability, so a MacBook wasn’t a consideration, but I agree that could have been another good option.

beard papa, Monday, 20 June 2022 15:46 (one year ago) link

Ah yeah if you got a Mini then you'd need to get an external webcam for Facetime which can be faffy

Tracer Hand, Monday, 20 June 2022 15:48 (one year ago) link

Yeah, they had a home computer guy who made me really angry, kept their desktop locked in 2006 with obsessive malware and CC cleaner settings. I kept trying to tell them, "no one is ever trying to hack you and no one will!" and that maybe keeping Windows Mail locked in a mid-2000s version ultimately was probably worse for security? Anyway. Hoping she'll find the iMac nice and simple and self-contained to usee, and have less hassle. Thanks for yr (reassuring) thoughts!

Now I just have to migrate all her emails since 2001

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 20 June 2022 15:51 (one year ago) link

it's about time to buy a new macbook, but honestly beyond a large screen I don't need anything special

trying to decide between buying new and riding it into the ground vs buying used every few years, ebay seems to have good refurbished stuff with warranty

death generator (lukas), Monday, 20 June 2022 17:48 (one year ago) link

Chuck it puts me in mind of my own process - my folks wanted a computer circa 2000, I was about to move interstate so I said OK, you need to get the least expensive Mac so that I will be able to support it over the phone while I'm interstate, my dad comes back from Harvey Norman all aglow with the killer deal he got on some IBM Aptiva running Windows ME. My blood pressure spiked but whatever, I said. Five years of weird glitches, several email-borne viruses, inadvertently-installed crapware, horrible "support" software for cheap gadgets like universal remotes and car satnav, janky system software, cheap programs from the bargain bin, clutter, and all of it supported by me trying to figure out an unfamiliar OS over the phone with who knows what had been installed randomly. Every Christmas was a day plus of uninstalls, rebuilds, etc. Anyway it had slowed to a crawl and was crippled by multiple layers of antivirus this and defender that. Dad asked about upgrading the RAM again or something and I just snapped and told him to bin the computer and buy a Mac Mini (G4 at that stage). In the intervening 17 years he has had 2 computer upgrades, both iMacs, and I've had one serious callout (although living back in the same state now) in that entire time. I had a series of escalating pleas to help with massive onslaughts of spam after their travel agent was hacked and their address ended up on a list, it took 2 years of persuading them that filters don't work, but I eventually convinced them to change email addresses and providers, and give their new address to friends. Since then ... nothing. They have an M1 iMac (replacing the previous i5 because it was ten years old, my brother is still using it to type reports!) and everything just works.
I'm sorry ... once I got started I had to keep going.

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 20 June 2022 22:59 (one year ago) link

lukas, they aren’t super cheap but apple will have returns on their site eventually and those are good. just marginally cheaper than the deals (corp, student, membership club) on new though

mh, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 01:28 (one year ago) link

You could also maybe hold out until the M2 MacBook Pros come out, there might be deals on used M1s and then you'd be on the current processor platform for longevity's sake.

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 21 June 2022 01:57 (one year ago) link

Both good ideas, thanks.

death generator (lukas), Tuesday, 21 June 2022 21:59 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Folks with a M1/M2 Mac who are Chromium/Chrome users might want to check out the M1-optimized version of Thorium. Noticeably faster in all respects: https://thorium.rocks

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 15 August 2022 04:01 (one year ago) link

I've long been a PC person, although I've always had a soft spot for Macs. My high school installed a room full of Mac Classics to teach us about networking and desktop publishing and I remember being mesmerised by the tiny black and a white screen and the fact you could play samples from Who Framed Roger Rabbit. I have a bunch of Apple gear but it's all second-hand, but the M1s have sorely tempted me. For the first time since the 12" G4 PowerBooks the M1 MacBook Air is simultaneously a legitimately good laptop and not extravagantly overpriced. In fact it's cheaper than almost all ThinkPads.

Although it's a shame post-El Capitan versions of MacOS dropped 32-bit support entirely (I suppose games would be a non-starter anyway because the M1 has a completely different architecture). I still have a 2009 Mac Mini with Mojave purely so I can use PhotoShop CS4.

But the MacBook Air doesn't have any ports, and would I really carry it around with me? Owning a modern laptop would just make me miserable, because it would remind me constantly that despite being a fascinating writer, a world-class wit, immensely talented and competent etc, I work in a field where owning a laptop is a complete irrelevance. I will not, and will never, prepare a report while on a first-class train to Carlyle, or a business-class flight to Hong Kong. I will never deliver a presentation to a room of people in Tokyo. I will never need a laptop. But what if I want to write messages to Ilxor while on the bus to Bournemouth to pick up some heroin? Or on the way back from Bournemouth, with the hills and the twisty-turny streets. What then.

I have a pair of old Mac Minis, and it's nice having a silent little desktop computer. But something like an iPad Pro would be a useful mobile device except that iPads aren't optimised for connecting to a monitor. But if I bought an iPad Pro I could mount it on a stand and use my noise to select things. I wouldn't have to use my hands. I could... do the thing with both hands while using my nose to turn the volume control down.

I remember many years ago visiting the Tate Modern and noticing that the monitors had Mac Minis taped to the back of them. I remember thinking "this is how the middle class live". I have the impression that Apple's true goal, it's gesamtkunstwerk, isn't the hardware, it's the creation of a dilemma. And wither the Apple Watch? Imagine having little shapes on your wrist.

Ashley Pomeroy, Monday, 15 August 2022 20:02 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

Appple Watch.... ULTRA

Spottie, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 17:27 (one year ago) link

why not just like... make this the new normal apple watch?

Spottie, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link

"dynamic island"

, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link

lol

Spottie, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 18:20 (one year ago) link

“We call it…mashed potatoes”

calstars, Thursday, 8 September 2022 02:21 (one year ago) link

Posted from the Dynamic Island

mh, Friday, 16 September 2022 21:32 (one year ago) link

Posted from the Dynamic Island

mh, Friday, 16 September 2022 21:32 (one year ago) link

damn, new phone must make zing post twice

mh, Friday, 16 September 2022 21:33 (one year ago) link

I like this phone, it’s purple and nice

castanuts (DJP), Saturday, 17 September 2022 03:17 (one year ago) link

Same

calstars, Saturday, 17 September 2022 03:24 (one year ago) link

anybody rolling with an external GPU for their intel mac? i am kinda thinking about it to boost x-plane flight sim (and as kind the only way to upgrade my 2018 mini)

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 17 September 2022 06:05 (one year ago) link

I had an external GPU for a couple of years, not really for gaming but just to power a 4k monitor from a 13" macbook… I was never really pleased with the experience, but perhaps for gaming it would be better?

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 17 September 2022 12:02 (one year ago) link

what did you not like about it?

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 17 September 2022 12:36 (one year ago) link

I think, unless you’re getting a great deal on something used, the best performance/dollar ratio solution would be to swap out the mini. At best, the external solutions are good for adding a really beefy GPU to an already powerful system, but ymmv

mh, Saturday, 17 September 2022 14:15 (one year ago) link

yeah i’m starting to think the same thing. the new M1s are so good that they accomplish everything an external gpu would - probably more, actually, because i’d be getting a CPU upgrade as well, for not that much more money.

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 17 September 2022 15:12 (one year ago) link

egpu sounds like a nightmare when there's a better option.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 17 September 2022 18:07 (one year ago) link

It was just very clunky, and didn’t even seem to give me the buttery-smooth app performance I was hoping for.

Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 18 September 2022 17:09 (one year ago) link

okay i’m on team fuck an egpu. they aren’t supported on M1s anyway so who cares about buying an upgradeable enclosure etc

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 18 September 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link

fwiw on my late model SE, ios 16 feels “snappy” af. maybe it’s just psychosomatic who knows but i like it

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 18 September 2022 17:56 (one year ago) link

it’s probably just the way the homescreen slides into view on unlock now. i’m such a mark

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 18 September 2022 17:59 (one year ago) link

This seems like very good news. Internals of iPhone 14 redesigned to make it much more repairable:

https://www.ifixit.com/News/64865/iphone-14-teardown

Alba, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 14:47 (one year ago) link

That is pretty interesting. Also funny they didn't do it with the higher tier 14s, only the low end one.

Nhex, Friday, 23 September 2022 00:22 (one year ago) link

the theories on ifixit (A team, B team or being risk adverse on newer hardware tweaks) seem good

easier repairability on the mainline phone is good

mh, Friday, 23 September 2022 00:29 (one year ago) link

i think i'll try the new airpods as a requested xmas gift

Got the new Airpod Pros. Transparency mode has an unsettling, uncanny quality to it. I keep taking an earbud out to check what I'm hearing against real life.

Also, the recreated ambient noise seems louder than real life to me. You can change this, deep in settings, by turning on partial noise cancellation. Not sure why you can't just turn down the volume on the recreated ambient noise.

death generator (lukas), Sunday, 25 September 2022 23:32 (one year ago) link

I’m about to throw every Apple device I own in the garbage because one of them keeps muting notifications across all of my devices

castanuts (DJP), Monday, 26 September 2022 00:43 (one year ago) link

I have not encountered that, but lol

gotta force sign-out from icloud on all of them maybe and add them back one by one?

reminds me of the hilarious windows auth glitch where I’d have a remote desktop session or something still active on one of many servers, have to change my password, and somehow that session would keep locking me out. when I tested a windows service by running it under my credentials…. boy, it was a real bitch figuring that one out

mh, Monday, 26 September 2022 01:15 (one year ago) link

I lost my AirPods Pro case and am annoyed they don't sell replacements. Having to choose between buying a new third-party one with all the varying reports from people about whether they're any good or not, and a secondhand one on eBay that might itself be a third-party one for all I know.

Alba, Monday, 26 September 2022 07:45 (one year ago) link

v strange they don’t sell those.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 26 September 2022 09:03 (one year ago) link

on the other hand the new lock screen customisations have made my phone look fucking lush.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 26 September 2022 09:04 (one year ago) link

I can't figure them out. I wanted the existing photo I have with the weather on top, but it seems to be one or the other

Alba, Monday, 26 September 2022 09:33 (one year ago) link

It refused to allow me to keep my current photo, I had to create fresh wallpaper to use the new design.

When I couldn’t find (scowling diptych of surly teens 2021) in my roll, I just grabbed (adorable poppets on rail adventure 2013) and threw the widgets and graphics over that and it’s like I have a new phone, albeit one which is deeply nostalgic.

Michael Jones, Monday, 26 September 2022 10:40 (one year ago) link

Yeah I’ve had this problem before with iOS - you can’t seem to retrieve the wallpaper photo from anywhere if it’s not in your Photos library any more. I’ve definitely got this photo on a hard drive but pain to have to find it again. Good to know you can combine photos and widgets though

Alba, Monday, 26 September 2022 14:00 (one year ago) link

Not feeling the lockscreen excitement.

Checked out a youtube on 'coolest os 16 lock screens '. I wonder if half the excitement is in techie-style tweaking of lock screens itself - as I'm not getting much out of looking at them.

Luna Schlosser, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 10:50 (one year ago) link

I set up two different lock screens with work / not work focus modes, which has been a nice life upgrade.

death generator (lukas), Tuesday, 27 September 2022 11:18 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

goddamn this is going to improve my life right now about 1000x

macOS Ventura - Image Capture app enables OCR for PDF creation

Here is a small, well-hidden novelty from Ventura: an OCR option in Image Transfer, Apple’s application for importing photos to your Mac. This offers to transform the text of a scan into an exportable layer that can be more easily extracted on other platforms.

Image Transfer is not only used to recover photos from your iPhone: it also allows you to scan documents, for example using a scanner or a connected printer. By scanning a document via the app, it is now possible to check a new OCR option, which will extract its text in passing.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 21 October 2022 04:22 (one year ago) link

that’s great but i want it to automatically add the OCR text to the file metadata and make that available to spotlight and Photos search

Tracer Hand, Friday, 21 October 2022 07:43 (one year ago) link

I think you can do most of that with Shortcuts? I haven't gotten involved with Ventura yet to see what's changed in shortcuts or how addressable OCR / Live Text is. I use a shortcut to remove all metadata from files - I think you can write into those attributes also?

I'm an old man here because I still think in AppleScript/shell script combos. i never found Automator helpful (prob that robot icon)

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 21 October 2022 08:31 (one year ago) link

i just want the OS to do the recognition and metadata enrichment on import

Tracer Hand, Friday, 21 October 2022 08:33 (one year ago) link

OCR is awesome when it works!

Personally I am still using my 2007 Macbook at least for Garageband

| (Latham Green), Friday, 21 October 2022 18:26 (one year ago) link

four weeks pass...

with Ventura this apparently works now ^

Guys can i say i am a MASSIVE fan of Stage Manager?? i have it set on the left side of the screen. i have my Dock set to self-hide. so if i need to drag from one app to another i can still do that via the Dock. it plays nicely with Spaces and Mission Control if you use those things. suddenly my computer feel fuckin… Marie Kondoed. elegant. clean. simple. visible. really feels like the first (baby) step outside the flat 2D overlapping desktop window paradigm (for Macs at least)

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 20 November 2022 10:01 (one year ago) link

i mean like all UI experiments some will hate it but it’s extremely.. calming to me somehow.

i’ve hidden my desktop as well, and starting to wonder why it exists at all. there should just be one massive pile (“Downloads” probably) and then anything else you want to create, possibly with the help of Hazel. but Stage Manager isn’t really about files it’s about apps, which makes sense for the app-centric view of the world that Apple’s been pushing ever since the advent of iOS

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 20 November 2022 10:50 (one year ago) link

I had Stage Manager running for a couple of weeks but I was also having huge system slow-downs and I noticed I often had kernal_task using ~1000% cpu in Activity Monitor - possibly this is because I am on an Intel mac and it hasn’t been optimised and bug fixed properly yet.

I did quite like it, although I wish there was an option to open new apps in the current stage rather than always opening a new one. I’ll try it again next time the OS is updated.

Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 20 November 2022 11:25 (one year ago) link

Lol I don’t even use it properly I don’t think. I’m just using it as an app switcher. I’m on an Intel Mini and it seems fine. In fact the whole computer feels a teeny bit quicker. Kind of wild how the windows update in real time in Stage Manager. If there’s an annoying animated ad it will keep plowing along over there.

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 20 November 2022 11:30 (one year ago) link

The thing that annoys me most about stage manager is how I couldn’t figure out how to just have the calculator floating in front of my window so I can still see the numbers I’m adding. I ended up getting this app that puts a pop out calculator in the menu bar.

Jeff, Sunday, 20 November 2022 15:52 (one year ago) link

Yeah I can see that being annoying. Could you add it to the same “stage” as the thing that has the numbers or something?

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 20 November 2022 17:37 (one year ago) link

I tried it but 90% of the time I'm using an external monitor as an additional display and stage manager requires each display to have separate spaces which kind of breaks my whole workflow

joygoat, Sunday, 20 November 2022 19:52 (one year ago) link

that’s dumb if you’ve extended your desktop

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 20 November 2022 20:25 (one year ago) link

Was like "what is this Stage Manager thing?" Then realized my iMac just got dropped for support. I guess Apple is not so subtly nudging me to get a new computer...

Nhex, Sunday, 20 November 2022 22:32 (one year ago) link

Yeah I have no idea what it is either
I need fewer screens in my life, not more

calstars, Sunday, 20 November 2022 23:51 (one year ago) link

six months pass...

ok

Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 5 June 2023 18:37 (ten months ago) link

seems like it'd be great for domain-specific stuff

really selling it hard as a general purpose device

mh, Monday, 5 June 2023 18:39 (ten months ago) link

it looks way better than any of the other headsets

Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 5 June 2023 18:40 (ten months ago) link

god damn bob iger?

Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 5 June 2023 18:40 (ten months ago) link

tech nerds where everyone in the office is wearing them.

Porn.

They'll sell if they actually look/work as well as they say. Obv curious about eye control, like maybe I'd rather just point at stuff? Wonder how weird that will be. Of course I never thought touch typing on a screen would take off.

dan selzer, Monday, 5 June 2023 18:44 (ten months ago) link

think they just admitted to extensive phrenology

mh, Monday, 5 June 2023 18:46 (ten months ago) link

I was joking with a friend that there was a cable coming out of it for the 20lb battery pack

and...

mh, Monday, 5 June 2023 18:48 (ten months ago) link

apple engineering is so nuts

Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 5 June 2023 18:55 (ten months ago) link

I assumed it was going to fake your appearance in video chat so you wouldn't see the goggles, and yup

mh, Monday, 5 June 2023 18:56 (ten months ago) link

$3,499!

Position Position, Monday, 5 June 2023 19:04 (ten months ago) link

I was thinking it would be like $500 and that would feel like a lot.

Position Position, Monday, 5 June 2023 19:05 (ten months ago) link

Apple's new Vision Pro will deliver new immersive experiences to users

for example, in the photos below, these two women are experiencing for the very first time what its like to be a huge ass loser pic.twitter.com/eVlFztsPTc

— Matt Binder (@MattBinder) June 5, 2023

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 5 June 2023 19:07 (ten months ago) link

I was expecting $5k tbh

mh, Monday, 5 June 2023 19:40 (ten months ago) link

I mean, PSVR 2 has 1080 resolution, a fraction of the cameras, and requires a whole-ass PS5 to work at all and it's $550

This sucker has the hardware equivalent of several iPhones in it. $3500 ain't no bargain, but

mh, Monday, 5 June 2023 19:43 (ten months ago) link

Were they just completely vague on whether the new Mac Pro will have any support for third-party GPUs? My guess is that they left it vague because that's completely based on whether hardware vendors will collaborate on drivers.

Ars Technica's coverage was claiming that adding ARM driver support would be very arduous and I was thinking "hmm, citation needed"

Not that the driver model is similar, but NVidia has ARM Linux drivers, and they already have a long in the tooth macOS driver

mh, Monday, 5 June 2023 19:46 (ten months ago) link

I know that they're definitely still working on the deepfake-style video conferencing appearance but I reeeeally want to see more footage from whatever stage the prototype is at

mh, Monday, 5 June 2023 19:59 (ten months ago) link

Were they just completely vague on whether the new Mac Pro will have any support for third-party GPUs?

“Nothing to announce today.”

Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 5 June 2023 20:07 (ten months ago) link

lol

My friend who tracks pc hardware more assiduously than me was explaining that 24GB ram modules are becoming a thing as the new budget compromise and guess what? The new Macbook Air maxes out at 24GB of memory!

They're still trying to sell the base model with a criminal 8GB

mh, Monday, 5 June 2023 20:13 (ten months ago) link

I was a bit sceptical of 8GB, but I do some quite heavy lifting as a FE developer with just 8GB on the 13" Air. It isn’t meant to be a “Pro” machine anyway but it smokes the old i9 2019 16" Pro machine I had with 16GB - and without running any fans.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 09:37 (ten months ago) link

fair. I end up having to fire up some containerized stuff on my own machine from time to time and it’s hard to work around hard memory limits in that case

not as if I don’t do a large portion of my computing on a phone and tablet with less

mh, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 11:57 (ten months ago) link

companies want people to wear computer glasses so bad but people dont want to, lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 12:15 (ten months ago) link

Waiting for Vision 3GS

calstars, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 12:33 (ten months ago) link

soooo with that price this is just a toy for the super rich, right?

Nhex, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 13:10 (ten months ago) link

that's kind of what every new apple product gets badged as tbh

mh, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 13:48 (ten months ago) link

soooo with that price this is just a toy for the super rich, right?

― Nhex, Tuesday, June 6, 2023 9:10 AM (thirty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

It’s shocking. They have a very good professional software team (Final Cut Pro, Logic Pro, and Motion) and, as far as I know, they didn’t announce anything. Someone somewhere suggested a mixed-reality AutoCAD and Revit competitor. That would’ve been sick.

Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 13:52 (ten months ago) link

I got the impression they only locked in the APIs at the last minute and almost all the software features that were shown outside of the interface were video mock-ups

The Disney presentation was pure Imagineering with a couple clips interspersed from their existing products. I think I caught a clip from one of their previous Star Wars VR games

mh, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 14:30 (ten months ago) link

I got the impression they only locked in the APIs at the last minute and almost all the software features that were shown outside of the interface were video mock-ups

The Disney presentation was pure Imagineering with a couple clips interspersed from their existing products. I think I caught a clip from one of their previous Star Wars VR games

― mh, Tuesday, June 6, 2023 10:30 AM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Ah. That makes so much sense.

Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 14:38 (ten months ago) link

They mentioned Lightroom and the ability to selectively edit a 10’ photograph does sound like fun

calstars, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 14:46 (ten months ago) link

I mean it’s cheaper than what they were selling in the 80s and 90s. They’ve only recently become a mass market brand.

Still, lol at face computers.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 14:57 (ten months ago) link

early 2024 reads as late March at earliest, to me

all of the apps that run on the device (as opposed to using it as a remote display for your laptop) looked like the iPad versions hovering in the air, and obviously they were all mockups because what else would they be, someone attached a camera to one of the devices eye holes and shot video through it?

mh, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 15:11 (ten months ago) link

I'm admittedly and embarrassingly kind of intrigued by the idea of having all my work apps around me in the air and manipulating them by waving my arms around like I'm conducting an invisible orchestra while the virtual heads of my coworkers float in front of me. I can't imagine wearing something like that outside - it seems more like the answer to an Occulus (which you use at home but you can't see your physical environment) than the answer to google glass (which was ostensibly designed to wear outside).

Like most tech, I will wait a few generations before even considering a purchase, and certainly not for $3500.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 16:15 (ten months ago) link

In line with that, actually seriously considering an apple watch for the first time, as a combination of wanting a running watch, wanting the time on my wrist, and wanting fewer reasons to pull out my phone.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 16:17 (ten months ago) link

As a self contained thing, I'm assuming this won't be compatible with any existing VR apps and games, and you'd be paying $3500 to use some nifty iPhone apps. I'm not into VR but if I sprung for this and couldn't even try out Half Life Alyx that'd be super lame. otoh fragmenting this space might hurry up its demise already.

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 16:32 (ten months ago) link

I got the impression they only locked in the APIs at the last minute and almost all the software features that were shown outside of the interface were video mock-ups

God I hope so. They had a DJ app thing and the latency on manipulating the crossfader was awful.

xxp i got apple watch pilled a couple of years ago. they are good!

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 17:34 (ten months ago) link

i will never wear the apple watch or the apple glasses im against computers

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 00:30 (ten months ago) link

The watch pro ultra max plus looks cool but is a little steep price wise

calstars, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 00:49 (ten months ago) link

Lol Is that the real name?

Spottie, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 01:37 (ten months ago) link

Yes

calstars, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 02:34 (ten months ago) link

Letter to the editor in the Washington Post

The June 6 news article "With Vision Pro, Apple makes its case for a computer on your face" noted a feature of Apple's new Vision Pro headset: When you are wearing the Vision Pro, you can see others in the room with you and thus you don't feel left out. But is the one wearing the Vision Pro the one who is really left out? I remember the moment when my young daughter got hooked on her first experience of a video (Disney's "Cinderella"). I not only felt "left out," but I also felt that she was no longer together "with me" in the same room.

My problem with the Vision Pro and this direction technology is taking is not only that it leaves others out but, even more important, that it generates ever more "experiences," be they "immersive" or not, that we can't share with others (our friends, our partners, our children, our co-workers, et al.). Aren't our "deepest experiences," the ones we live by, not experiences that leave others out but instead experiences shared with others? Even René Descartes wrote his deepest experience - "I think, therefore I am" (cogito, ergo sum) - for a reader.

I wish Apple CEO Tim Cook and the media would think more critically about how this new technology of "immersive experience" will intensify the primacy of the individual ("me first/me only" and its consequent "loneliness") by augmenting its introversion (and asociality in the sense of its "failure to feel responsibility" for the suffering or well-being of others). Isn't the challenge today to break down solipsism (self-relation) and increase/create solidarity with others (relationality) - others in the world with us?

Kathleen Wright, Philadelphia

Tracer Hand, Monday, 12 June 2023 08:44 (ten months ago) link

Baratunde Thurston:

Let's also talk about actual eyesight, the non-patented kind. On the same day Apple announced its headset, it announced a new feature built into its other mobile devices. According to its press release celebrating the company's attempt to tackle myopia (aka nearsightedness), "Screen Distance uses the same TrueDepth camera that powers Face ID on iPhone and iPad to encourage users to move their device farther away after holding it closer than 12 inches for an extended period of time." The release goes on to encourage us to spend time outdoors and notes that the company's new feature can monitor your access to daylight and nudge you to get more. Should I tell the "Screen Distance" team about the Vision Pro, or do you want to do it?

The company's new headset sits centimeters away from your face, blasting your eyes with artificial light, shooting infrared beams to track eye movement, using cameras to capture and recreate your visage, all of which you strap to the back of your head. To quote my wife, "They should need F.D.A. approval for this. No one has tested what 23 million stamp-size pixels smashed against your eyes does to your brain." I could not, in fact, find any information related to the anticipated health impact or approval of this device for consumer use. I'll keep looking.

While the Vision Pro is a massive technological leap, it's also likely to be a massive leap in the wrong direction when it comes to our health. When something so revolutionary rolls out, I want to be told about its incredible advantages, of course, but also about the incredible amount of study and care the company has taken, the testing conducted, the regulatory approvals achieved. Sadly, I suspect the truth is that we are the test subjects. I've looked for information about this on the Vision Pro site and can't find it. But that's how the under-regulated tech industry rolls, from social media to generative A.I., and now to this face computer.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 12 June 2023 08:48 (ten months ago) link

one month passes...

Prime Day had a pretty great deal on the watch so I finally got myself one - Series 8 with cellular. I mistakenly ordered the smaller band size which was literally a notch too small for my wrist and didn't feel like returning the whole thing or spending $50 on a new band, so I just cut a new hole in it.

I like it so far - nice to have the texts and the child screentime requests show up on my wrist so I don't have to pull out my phone every time, nice to have the time visible, and I'm looking forward to using it on runs so I don't have to carry my phone in one hand like a putz in order to see my pace/mileage/time.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 13 July 2023 17:20 (nine months ago) link

My nephew is too young for a phone or tablet but he has a Watch and now I want one so we can do the silly Watch-to-Watch messages.

Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, 13 July 2023 17:37 (nine months ago) link

i still can't get into a comfortable zone with bookmarks and tab groups

anybody got a system they like?

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 26 July 2023 10:04 (eight months ago) link

For organizing tabs?

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 26 July 2023 12:17 (eight months ago) link

Has anyone tried Arc yet? I believe tab management is its biggest selling point

https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/25/23802843/arc-browser-mac-ios-waitlist-availability

Alba, Wednesday, 26 July 2023 13:01 (eight months ago) link

I am too tied in to Chrome at work to really consider it. My tabs management policy is just to have three pinned, open about 100 a day and then close them all with a keyboard shortcut every hour or so.

Alba, Wednesday, 26 July 2023 13:03 (eight months ago) link

I don't use tab groups because whenever I have enough themeatically-related tabs to put into a group, it's more useful to save each as either a .webarchive or a PDF. Especially if it's at a URL that's likely to change or disappear.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 26 July 2023 13:15 (eight months ago) link

For organizing tabs?

yes

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 26 July 2023 13:21 (eight months ago) link

I don't use tab groups because whenever I have enough themeatically-related tabs to put into a group, it's more useful to save each as either a .webarchive or a PDF.

Had to read this a few times before remembering that some people use tabs as bookmarks!

Alba, Wednesday, 26 July 2023 13:26 (eight months ago) link

I can't think that way - I'm definitely in the "I cannot rest until my tabs are closed" mindset

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 26 July 2023 13:53 (eight months ago) link

failsafe tab management strat: command-shift-w

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 July 2023 13:55 (eight months ago) link

I like have some tabs grouped together that I can open all at once, sort of like a workspace

That said there are a few sites that are good to have as references for these workspaces, but which I don't actually need all the time (eg bookmarks) but at the moment bookmarks are entirely unrelated

I think what I want is a sort of combination of bookmarks and tab groups, so they relate to each other

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 26 July 2023 13:55 (eight months ago) link

If nothing else, this exchange has been the kick up the backside I needed to organise my bookmarks. It was getting ridiculous: I was scrolling for a full minute down a flat list to get to the most recent ones. And yes, some of these are static references and could probably just be saved offline.

Also: colour-coded tab groups in Chrome. I remember to do this maybe once every two weeks and gain nothing from the exercise. It's less embarrassing if you're screen sharing on a call, like tidying your room.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 26 July 2023 14:40 (eight months ago) link

Thanks for the link to Arc, Alba. I have downloaded - it's intriguing! I miss the days when browsers competed on features.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 26 July 2023 14:47 (eight months ago) link

I use workona for exactly this, Tracer: you can create tab sets, with their own bookmarks (and notes and todos, but I don’t use those). And it has a nice command palette to switch between sets. It’s become indispensable pretty quickly.

stet, Wednesday, 26 July 2023 22:32 (eight months ago) link

I tried to get on with Arc but it feels cramped. Workona much better. I may even pony up for the paid version.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 7 August 2023 14:46 (eight months ago) link

something really strange happened last night. hitting the sack about 12:40 in the morning, my phone’s plugged into the wall next to my bed, i’m reading, and out of nowhere it chirps a tone that i’ve not heard it make before. a loud single chirp, sort of like you might hear if you tried to close a window on a mac that couldn’t be closed, a kind of “hey!” or “nope!” sound. a few seconds pass, it happens again. i pick up the phone and look at it. no notifications. it chirps a third time. still no notifications. i unlock it, i can’t see anything untoward. after 11pm i have a sleep focus on which allows ZERO audible notifications from anything apart from my family. but there were no texts, whatsapps etc.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 11 August 2023 08:20 (eight months ago) link

and er this morning i have a security update. NOTHING TO SEE HERE

Tracer Hand, Friday, 11 August 2023 10:09 (eight months ago) link

one month passes...

I cook a lot and I use my iPhone nightly to set timers for various reminders while I am cooking. I have been increasingly troubled by my seeming inability to correctly set the timer. I set the timer, time passes and I think, "that should have gone off", I check the phone and find that I selected the time I wanted but appeared not to have hit Start. This has been happening with increasing frequency and weighing on me for months to the extent that it (along with other getting older issues) has been making think that maybe there is something wrong with me (early onset alzheimers', whatever). I've joked with friends about it. Getting old sucks, eh?

I was cooking last night with my wife and I had her set a timer on my phone while my hands were full. The same thing happened to her! It's the fucking phone! WTF!? (I am seriously relieved).

From brief googling, it appears to be something where the lock screen might be shutting down the timer. Anyone encounter something similar?

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Sunday, 24 September 2023 11:58 (seven months ago) link

Yes, I've had exactly this problem while cooking and I suspect the lock screen is the cause. It's ridiculously annoying.

Brad C., Sunday, 24 September 2023 13:46 (seven months ago) link

I do that all the time too. Alexa is more reliable cause I get the immediate feedback that I have indeed set it.

Alba, Sunday, 24 September 2023 14:45 (seven months ago) link

analog dial timer built into the stove is low key goat cheesed with the sauce

lag∞n, Sunday, 24 September 2023 14:47 (seven months ago) link

I haven’t had that happen, but it could be an accidental press on the timer lock screen pause/stop buttons. looks like it’s definitely a ui issue if you’re triggering presses on the lock screen in your pocket or w/e

I guess you could just glance at the time and tell siri to set an alarm for that time? alarms don’t show on the lock screen

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Sunday, 24 September 2023 14:52 (seven months ago) link

Phone is unlocked and sitting on a counter when the timer is set and I have now visually confirmed that it is counting down. At some point before the timer ends, the lock screen seems to cancel the timer instead of allowing it to sound. It doesn't happen every time but has started happening much more frequently.

Also, I have used the timer for cooking for years without issue, so much so that my phone frequently prompts me in the evening, "Do you want to set a timer for 5 minutes?". The problem only started happening within the last 6-9 months afaik. Really weird.

I just checked and I don't have any iOs updates that haven't been downloaded.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Sunday, 24 September 2023 15:08 (seven months ago) link

weeeird

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Sunday, 24 September 2023 16:09 (seven months ago) link

Do you have Focus or Do Not Disturb on?

calstars, Sunday, 24 September 2023 17:30 (seven months ago) link

i got an old fashioned magnetic egg timer for my fridge. i hate being in the middle of cooking and needing to touch my phone. it's inconvenient and also gross

budo jeru, Sunday, 24 September 2023 18:01 (seven months ago) link

Siri stopped speaking back to me when I set a timer, no amount of restarting and turning things off and on makes it come back.

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 24 September 2023 18:10 (seven months ago) link

alexa et al are are prob the best for timers, totally hands free, as long as you dont mind having a spy in your home

lag∞n, Sunday, 24 September 2023 18:42 (seven months ago) link

Olde-timey manual kitchen timer sounds like the best option

calstars, Sunday, 24 September 2023 18:57 (seven months ago) link

it has the benefit of being able to look at it and see where its at

lag∞n, Sunday, 24 September 2023 19:00 (seven months ago) link

having a dial timer built into the stove is good cause its one hand operation

lag∞n, Sunday, 24 September 2023 19:01 (seven months ago) link

the stove timer is always the first choice but sometimes there's a lot going on and you need multiple timers

Brad C., Sunday, 24 September 2023 19:04 (seven months ago) link

I use the microwave timer

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Sunday, 24 September 2023 19:05 (seven months ago) link

With all their money I really want Apple to expand beyond tech. They should make mugs and sneakers

calstars, Sunday, 24 September 2023 19:47 (seven months ago) link

remember when they were gonna make cars haha

lag∞n, Sunday, 24 September 2023 19:49 (seven months ago) link

Yeah don’t want a car lol
Just like little regular stuff but well made

calstars, Sunday, 24 September 2023 20:07 (seven months ago) link

Like expand and define their design aesthetic beyond tech

calstars, Sunday, 24 September 2023 20:12 (seven months ago) link

Apple necktie
Apple socks
Apple apples

calstars, Sunday, 24 September 2023 21:21 (seven months ago) link

the stove timer is always the first choice but sometimes there's a lot going on and you need multiple timers

flashbacks to The Bear with this

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 24 September 2023 21:32 (seven months ago) link

sick ride

lag∞n, Monday, 25 September 2023 00:12 (seven months ago) link

Like

calstars, Monday, 25 September 2023 00:19 (seven months ago) link

Backstory: https://www.thedrive.com/vintage/3017/the-real-apple-car

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 25 September 2023 02:05 (seven months ago) link

Some notes from the anecdotes: iOS 17.0.1 is absolutely crushing my normally reliable personal phone... The device was radiating an alarming amount of heat after a 30min FaceTime and battery life is absolutely degraded (eg, overnight charge on a typical Sunday would except to be about 30-40% by this time). I've had to top off charge it 2x from low battery mode.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Monday, 25 September 2023 03:26 (seven months ago) link

The usual is to let it run down to dead, charge it to full, do a reset while on charger, then switch it off and leave it on charger for a long period - the idea is to re-educate the system about the battery characteristics.

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 25 September 2023 04:42 (seven months ago) link

I always do another full restart after a OS install. Total superstition but I’ve lucked out and avoided most problems. 17.0.1 on phone and pad now - going all in with Sonoma tomorrow.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 25 September 2023 07:42 (seven months ago) link

device going nuts after an OS update usually means the indexer or some other system service that kicked off is going nuts in the background

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 25 September 2023 13:19 (seven months ago) link

i'd been running the beta and def had worse battery performance; have the standard install now and haven't noticed phone getting hot but battery is still not great, but I'm inclined to think my battery may just need a replacement (this is an iphone 11 which I refuse to upgrade until I absolutely have to)

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 25 September 2023 13:37 (seven months ago) link

I think iOS 17 is the first integer update I've had in ages where I haven't noticed a battery drain hit. It's weird how these things are so user-specific.

akm - have you checked battery health in Settings? Apple recommends changing once it hits 80% maximum capacity but in my experience it's worth doing it long before that.

Alba, Monday, 25 September 2023 14:14 (seven months ago) link

yeah it's at 84. I'm sure it needs a replacement, I've just been lazy

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 25 September 2023 14:26 (seven months ago) link

the main feature i was excited about doesn't work for me :(

tvos can now do facetime with an iphone running ios 17 as the camera via continuity camera. great feature for calls to grandparents with kids on the couch! the camera even follows people around via (usually annoying) center stage.

doesn't work for me though, apparently possibly because i once changed the email address on my apple id https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/tvos-17-and-facetime-no-user-in-list-qr-code-doesnt-work.2401584/page-2.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 25 September 2023 16:10 (seven months ago) link

let it run down to dead

one step ahead of you

Tracer Hand, Monday, 25 September 2023 17:17 (seven months ago) link

FWIW I went for 15 Pro, since my most recent phone is the 8 and wouldn't be able to handle iOS 17 anyway. No regrets so far, it's nice seeing what all the more recent bells and whistles are.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 September 2023 17:19 (seven months ago) link

i really want the 5x zoom but don't want the iphone max. the rumor is that the normal sized pro will get the 5x zoom next year. maybe i wait it out one more year? the battery inside my 12 mini is absolutely toast. maybe i just need a new battery.

, Monday, 25 September 2023 17:28 (seven months ago) link

Yeah hearing that too about the 5x next year. I would have been happy to tough it out just a little further but again, my old one had just hit the limit!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 September 2023 17:29 (seven months ago) link

Anyone us Sonoma yet? One feature I'm very excited about is web apps. I used to use Fluid to make web apps but haven't in years. There's def many websites I'd love to break out of the browswer tab bar.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 15:59 (six months ago) link

oh cool, it's not compatible with my 2017 iMac.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 16:00 (six months ago) link

i just installed ventura

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 16:01 (six months ago) link

my job has forbidden me to upgrade until they can verify it works with Citrix

calstars, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 16:01 (six months ago) link

ars still running decent (but not siracusa good) reviews of these things

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/09/macos-14-sonoma-the-ars-technica-review/

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 16:03 (six months ago) link

(including the claim that chrome can already create web apps that work better than this new safari feature, in case that helps dan)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 16:04 (six months ago) link

you can already use some other browsers to run Progressive Web Apps as little standalone windows but it'll be nice to have that with Safari

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 17:09 (six months ago) link

damn it caek beats me to the punch again

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 17:09 (six months ago) link

I suspect Adobe are soon to leave Big Sur behind, perhaps before Apple do... or, at least I've been getting a warning for a while that Ps 25.0 (I was running the Beta for a bit) needs at least Monterey, to the point where I've rolled back to 24.7. Lr/LrC still fine for now but even in there there's stuff that just won't run on a 9yo MBP (like the "AI" denoise - 40min for a single photo!).

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 17:13 (six months ago) link

assuming apple continue their recent pattern, they will drop support (in the sense of no longer releasing security updates) for big sur in a couple of weeks.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 17:33 (six months ago) link

how/where can you make web apps w/ chrome?

dan selzer, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:32 (six months ago) link

I guess Safari lets you add any site as a standalone, as it has in iOS for a while. iOS only got PWA support in the last year, though

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:37 (six months ago) link

Installed Sonoma last night. Seems nice enough.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:12 (six months ago) link

Getting a Leopard->Snow Leopard code optimization feeling from Sonoma. Nothing obviously new or broken - just seems to work a little smoother now.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 23:10 (six months ago) link

I’ve installed Sonoma but it doesn’t seem to want to display any wallpaper, despite several attempts in settings to select it. I may need to restart in safe mode and sort it out when I have more time.

Dr Drudge (Bob Six), Thursday, 28 September 2023 09:22 (six months ago) link

I was a bit excited about the introduction of interactive widgets in iOS 17 but now I've found out developers can't use them for text entry so my excitement has largely dissipated. I just want to be able to search the web from my home screen.

Alba, Thursday, 28 September 2023 09:35 (six months ago) link

Turning the phone on its side while it's charging and having it turn into a bedside clock is fun for about 5 minutes.
I think only the 14 and 15 have an "always on" mode so it really behaves like a clock, and not something you have to tap to wake up (which makes it fairly pointless).

Those third-party Magsafe charging stands, which are ideal for this sort of thing, also have pads for Watch and Airpods so obv you have to buy the lot :)

Gotta say, those £100-150 entry-level Androids do look tempting in the context of what Apple offers now. Once you've stepped off the 2-year-upgrade-bundle train, and you've got a 2020 SE with 74% battery on a SIM-only (rolling 30-day, cancellable) contract, the route back to something newer is very steep. But... those Androids are all seemingly massive. Work replaced my 9yo Android recently with a Samsung A54 and it's gigantic. I can't use something that's 77mm wide one-handed (missus), especially with a case (mandatory for company devices). I know it's a pointless gripe, Apple tried the 12/13 Minis and they didn't sell.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 28 September 2023 10:29 (six months ago) link

bring back the minis u cowards

LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Thursday, 28 September 2023 11:05 (six months ago) link

Mind you, 5000mAh LiPo batteries in these Samsung bricks. I only charge mine twice a week and could probably stretch to 5 days between charges. But I'm not exactly hammering it, it's not for fun/socials/personal stuff.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 28 September 2023 11:17 (six months ago) link

Sonoma wallpapers are lovely, no way I want to put a bunch of ugly widgets over it. Team Clean Desktop forever.

Jeff, Thursday, 28 September 2023 11:28 (six months ago) link

^ this

Also I can see myself getting frustrated with the “nightstand” mode when the phones balance isn’t perfect and it inevitably falls forward or backward at 4 AM.

calstars, Thursday, 28 September 2023 11:50 (six months ago) link

was surprised to find out that the iphone 15 compares favorably to the mini, and even more surprised to find out that the 15 pro is slightly smaller than the 15

, Thursday, 28 September 2023 12:23 (six months ago) link

xp are you balancing the phone on its side?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 28 September 2023 13:38 (six months ago) link

AFAIK it has to be on its side for the nightstand mode to kick in. I guess I could prop it up against a book or something but I feel it will still slippp

calstars, Thursday, 28 September 2023 15:24 (six months ago) link

I’m very happy about iOS 17 automatically re-connecting apps to the last Airplay output they were using. I manually selected my kitchen speaker 3+ times a day, for years. If you randomly lose the connection it will even prompt you to reconnect with one touch. Hallelujah! This may work for Bluetooth too, I don’t know.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 28 September 2023 15:32 (six months ago) link

you need to buy either an official Apple nightstand or an Apple MFi Certified nightstand, so that your phone won't slip. xp

, Thursday, 28 September 2023 15:55 (six months ago) link

“You need to buy” nope

calstars, Thursday, 28 September 2023 16:08 (six months ago) link

if you want your phone to stand on its side you need a stand. why is this surprising or worth complaining about?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 28 September 2023 16:12 (six months ago) link

me, failing to balance my phone on its side on an airplane tray table so i can watch the office without holding my phone: "apple tax!"

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 28 September 2023 16:14 (six months ago) link

you don't need the fancy MFI magsafe chargers that charge quickly for a nightstand, unless you sleep for like 30 minutes. a cheap non-magsafe one will do and you'll still have a full charge when you wake up. i got this one for $15 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B3RC6M94. works great. standby mode is rubbish, but not because your a thin, heavy metal rectangle needs help to stand on its side. (it's because the display turns off. you don't need to tap the phone. you can tap the table. any motion turns it back on. but that's still useless for the intended purpose.)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 28 September 2023 16:18 (six months ago) link

i was being a little tongue in cheek, but i am now not as i say that you can also just make a iphone nightstand with some cinderblocks or 2x4's and skip the apple tax entirely.

, Thursday, 28 September 2023 16:27 (six months ago) link

I don’t mind the tapping because I sleep right next to my nightstand and it’s nice to not have a glowing thing right there

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 28 September 2023 16:28 (six months ago) link

you need to buy either an official Apple blackout screen cover or an Apple MFi Certified blackout screen cover, so that your phone won't glow at night.

, Thursday, 28 September 2023 16:31 (six months ago) link

oh, good tip

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 28 September 2023 16:34 (six months ago) link

real apple heads know to dig a hole and put your phone in there

lag∞n, Thursday, 28 September 2023 16:35 (six months ago) link

The 14 or 15's Always On mode should mean the clock is on (dimly?) all night, right? I hope it starts bouncing around the screen after a couple of hours, DVD screensaver style.

I'm currently using a combination of two books (one thin, one thick) and a £9 QI charger to get the clock on my SE. Thrilling stuff. If I type angrily enough on this keyboard I can get it to wake up.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 28 September 2023 16:56 (six months ago) link

I would never fall asleep because I would be waiting for it to bounce directly in the corner.

Jeff, Thursday, 28 September 2023 16:58 (six months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/WoefPNh.jpg

Seventeen bucks.

pplains, Thursday, 28 September 2023 17:10 (six months ago) link

i'd like to see that show a random photo from my album, e.g. a photo i took in 2015 of the mole on my stomach.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 28 September 2023 17:30 (six months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/5Q3bwCQ.jpg

Repurposed iPhone 7. Need the towel BEcuase slippage

calstars, Thursday, 28 September 2023 17:48 (six months ago) link

Have reinstalled Sonoma and have now wallpaper for the Look Screen but not for Desktop. Seems a bit buggy.

Dr Drudge (Bob Six), Friday, 29 September 2023 07:41 (six months ago) link

The titanium 15 pro looks like the bigger cousin to the first-gen SE

calstars, Friday, 29 September 2023 14:53 (six months ago) link

one month passes...

sort of surprising that they're releasing new M3 macbooks less than a year after releasing M2 macbook pros.

https://www.macrumors.com/2023/10/18/kuo-macbook-sales-down-amid-no-new-products/

i wonder if ^ has anything to do with that... hmm...

, Tuesday, 31 October 2023 00:29 (five months ago) link

looks like they're finally getting rid of the 13" macbook pro...

, Tuesday, 31 October 2023 00:52 (five months ago) link

the M2 was introduced over a year ago. it was kind of odd at the time that the first machines to get it were the cheapest laptops (air and the bad 13" pro). i guess this fixes that.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 02:31 (five months ago) link

Got a new iPhone, didn’t realize how bad my battery life was on the old one.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 02:49 (five months ago) link

Space Black only available on the m3 pro and max. Nothing they won’t tediously segment

stet, Tuesday, 31 October 2023 10:53 (five months ago) link

"tediously segment" is a great description of the tim cook era

i think this makes sense now that we're through the apple silicon transition - yearly updates of the macbook pro that come one month after the iphone updates. air and studio/mac pro the quarter after. would make a bit more sense for the studio and mac pro to be on the same cadence as the mbps but maybe that's too many products at once.

, Tuesday, 31 October 2023 11:23 (five months ago) link

I pre ordered a space black, not sure if I’ll keep it but always need to get my hands on this new stuff

calstars, Tuesday, 31 October 2023 11:52 (five months ago) link

Looks like they're on board with the new status quo of memory manufacturers messing around with different configurations at 18/36/48/64/96/128 GB of ram.

I guess on the low and mid tiers you get a boost and maybe you can splurge for 48? Real Goldilocks hours

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 14:39 (five months ago) link

Need a new job, client, or some kind of income going before ordering something in space black, but honestly my M1 Pro MBP is doing just fine.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 31 October 2023 23:43 (five months ago) link

^^ same in all respects. I'll see what they can squeeze our of the 3nm in the M4.

what you say is true but by no means (lukas), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 00:00 (five months ago) link

Couple months back, Ms. T picked up a 16" MBP M1 Max 64GB/4TB from the Apple refurbished store for $3750. There's some great deals in there if you don't mind stock configurations.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 19:51 (five months ago) link

Good deal
Last thing I bought from apple refurb was a phone which...didn't turn on

calstars, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 20:26 (five months ago) link

Mac sales came in at $7.6 billion in Q4 2023, down 34 percent from $11.5 billion in the year-ago quarter. Mac revenue for all of 2023 was $29.4 billion, down from $40.2 billion in 2022.

no wonder they rushed out the M3 chips heh

, Friday, 3 November 2023 12:13 (five months ago) link

a billion here a billion there… pretty soon you’re talking about real money

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 3 November 2023 12:22 (five months ago) link

my new favorite Apple TV+ show, “Apple Event”
seems to be getting promoted a lot on the front page next to a trailer for the new Scorsese movie

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 3 November 2023 15:33 (five months ago) link

"It's time for the Great November Apple Sales Event, coming to a showroom near you! Pick up a new Mac Studio - with only 4.9 APR! But hurry - this event won't last forever! 🎵 Aaaa--ppuhhhl! For the stylish monsieur! 🎶"

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 3 November 2023 15:41 (five months ago) link

why ppl stop buying macs

lag∞n, Friday, 3 November 2023 17:28 (five months ago) link

We got a screaming deal on a dozen of the M2 MBAs about 5 weeks ago, perhaps now we know why.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Friday, 3 November 2023 17:33 (five months ago) link

they're pretty much as good as most people need. Maybe most users, like regular consumers, are still just happy with their old airs and macbook pros.

I'm about to get a Studio I think. My 2017 iMac is getting a bit long in the tooth. Prob just get the m2 ones they have now and not bother waiting for m3 ones that may come in the summer. Though I may end up just not getting around to it until then anyway.

dan selzer, Friday, 3 November 2023 17:52 (five months ago) link

i have an m1 macbook pro but id prob just get an air now that they have them with 15" screens

lag∞n, Friday, 3 November 2023 17:57 (five months ago) link

I need to download Steam and try Disco Elysium on the M1 Max. On my Intel iMac it immediately made the fans fire up and sounded like a plane getting ready to take off.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 3 November 2023 18:03 (five months ago) link

the m3 max is as fast as the m2 ultra in benchmarks which is kinda crazy https://macrumors.com/2023/11/01/m3-max-chip-benchmark-results/

so i'm sure the m3 ultra in the studio will be bananas

, Friday, 3 November 2023 18:26 (five months ago) link

yeah my 2017 imac, intel obv, I upgraded to 64gb of ram a year or two ago, and it's held up but lately the fans have been crazy and it's just been sluggish. I did some crazy shit recently of getting a synology nas and moving all my storage to the network after my USB storage was giving me all kinds of disconnect hassles ,and some other changes and everything just feels like a mess right now. A fresh start with a big internal dive so everything can be on either internal SSD or back-upd to the nas and cloud.

dan selzer, Friday, 3 November 2023 18:27 (five months ago) link

prob wouldn't even need m3 ultra.

dan selzer, Friday, 3 November 2023 18:27 (five months ago) link

dan your fans are most likely clogged with dust, but unfortunately the intel imac is not easy to take apart and clean

on my 2015 it got so clogged that the dust obstructed the airflow entirely and it would shut down after 5 minutes from overheating. i took it apart (again, hard) and cleaned the fan (pulled out a big dustball) and it's been fine since

, Friday, 3 November 2023 18:30 (five months ago) link

i had a 2012? that i did multiple surgeries on, it was my frankensteins monster, finally gave up when the power supply and keyboard were going at the same time, rip

lag∞n, Friday, 3 November 2023 18:35 (five months ago) link

yeah I blasted the fans at some point but I'm sure that's the issue.

Beyond the fans...it's still pretty old and ready for an upgrade probably.

dan selzer, Friday, 3 November 2023 19:37 (five months ago) link

My 2010 MBP still going although it regularly makes a hell of vibrating noise. Was planning to get the 15” MBA but I’m now wondering whether I should hold out for a better chip (idea being to hold on to it for many years)

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 3 November 2023 19:43 (five months ago) link

any of the apple silicon M chips will be so much better than your 2010 MBP - i'd just get the MBA now if you see a good deal

, Friday, 3 November 2023 19:48 (five months ago) link

yeah id get the big air

lag∞n, Friday, 3 November 2023 19:49 (five months ago) link

also dan the fan i'm talking about can't be accessed from the outside - it's this part. that big black snail tube thing, which is supposed to send air from outside into the processor - just imagine that there's a giant dustball inside there that is preventing any air from moving. that's probably what's happening

https://guide-images.cdn.ifixit.com/igi/cM3NVOBEQ3BhMVGR.large

, Friday, 3 November 2023 19:50 (five months ago) link

prob wouldn't even need m3 ultra.

idk how many people actually need to edit 24 4k streams at once, on an airplane, or whatever the hell the m3 ultra is for

what you say is true but by no means (lukas), Friday, 3 November 2023 20:19 (five months ago) link

oh cool. I'm sure there's a bunch of dustballs up in there.

dan selzer, Friday, 3 November 2023 20:24 (five months ago) link

_prob wouldn't even need m3 ultra._

idk how many people actually need to edit 24 4k streams at once, on an airplane, or whatever the hell the m3 ultra is for


Speak for yourself

calstars, Friday, 3 November 2023 21:19 (five months ago) link

Even 1TB internal SSD is too small for me now and Apple storage prices are insane. But I’m sick of external HDs; I really have to sort it out. Is the synology good, Dan?

stet, Friday, 3 November 2023 22:18 (five months ago) link

0% financing on the A card makes these ridiculous prices seem more reasonable

calstars, Friday, 3 November 2023 22:35 (five months ago) link

i want a Studio pretty bad. my main condition is that it play X-Plane 12 with all the scenery

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 3 November 2023 23:16 (five months ago) link

The big air is not selling very well apparently which is insane to me.

Perhaps getting rid of the very bad MacBook Pro will help with that.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 3 November 2023 23:38 (five months ago) link

i dont understand people who dont want the big screen thats the part you look at

lag∞n, Friday, 3 November 2023 23:49 (five months ago) link

Not if you’re connecting to an external 36”

calstars, Saturday, 4 November 2023 00:05 (five months ago) link

i use an external monitor but sometimes i take the computer with me places

lag∞n, Saturday, 4 November 2023 00:06 (five months ago) link

I can’t do serous, multi million dollar consequence work on either a 13 or a 15

calstars, Saturday, 4 November 2023 00:11 (five months ago) link

Synology is cool but not the only solution. I was thinking about it for graphics because we work off one at the day job and that’s fine, but I don’t think it’s gonna work to do music off a network drive. So I’m more thinking one big drive internal or attached and backup and archive to Synology. Which I’m backing up to the cloud.

I used to have 4 drives in a thunderbolt enclosure that needed a thunderbolt to usbc adapter but one of the drives started going bad and they all kept disconnected and was a total pain.

dan selzer, Saturday, 4 November 2023 17:04 (five months ago) link

I actually moved my entire music library to the Synology, then decided Apple Music was too slow so I moved it to an external ssd.

dan selzer, Saturday, 4 November 2023 17:10 (five months ago) link

Too slow?

calstars, Saturday, 4 November 2023 17:10 (five months ago) link

Yeah. But I think my library size is straining Apple Music app.

But also occasional weirdness where if the Synology isn’t mounted, music wasn’t happy obv. Once mounted the Synology volume is like any other directory.

dan selzer, Saturday, 4 November 2023 17:31 (five months ago) link

Big library energy

calstars, Saturday, 4 November 2023 17:52 (five months ago) link

I used to have a Synology but realised I rarely needed off-site access to those files so now I just have a fuck-off big external drive that I back up to the cloud. It works invisibly but not INAUDIBLY. The HD chatters like a fucking frenetic chipmunk. I am going to bite the bullet and get a fuckoff big SSD and then I think I will have finally achieved data nirvana

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 4 November 2023 17:54 (five months ago) link

Data nirvana for me is downloading my 2k album Bandcamp library in flac and sharing it on slsk

calstars, Saturday, 4 November 2023 17:57 (five months ago) link

Downloading it to what? And managing with what?

dan selzer, Saturday, 4 November 2023 17:58 (five months ago) link

My new $6k space black m3 max MBP

calstars, Saturday, 4 November 2023 18:07 (five months ago) link

How are you managing/lisrening? I still use Apple Music and have many years of playlists though most of them I don’t need. I do manage dj playlists that sync to rekordbox still.

dan selzer, Saturday, 4 November 2023 18:34 (five months ago) link

Does your Synology not have an iTunes Server package? That would show the music files on it as a remote library, which has its own caveats, but the performance used to be a bit better than mounting a remote disk.

Barring that, there are a half dozen open source or freemium packages that do a lot better job with remote library management now. I’m still in the Plex ecosystem and the Plexamp app on iOS/macOS is pretty good. And you can have it download albums or playlists to your phone, etc.

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Sunday, 5 November 2023 13:47 (five months ago) link

ah, I missed the rekordbox synching bit. Not sure if there’s an easy solution there.

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Sunday, 5 November 2023 13:48 (five months ago) link

I haven't really explored using the synology as a media server.

I'm really tied into Apple Music. I use it for streaming and have even moved to making playlists in Apple Music using cloud stuff instead of my files so I can access those playlists from various computers and share them.

I avoided the whole merging of libraries thing for years because I heard horror stories. For the last few years my home computer wasn't sharing but my work machines were. At some point to get those playlists on my home computer as well I gave in and elected to sync the libraries but I think my home library was too big or confusing, I just ended up with multiple copies of the same playlists. It's a bit of a mess.

dan selzer, Sunday, 5 November 2023 15:21 (five months ago) link

Plex works pretty well with Synology for a music server

I am using your worlds, Sunday, 5 November 2023 15:28 (five months ago) link

The big air is not selling very well apparently which is insane to me.
I don't really get the 15" tbh - it's not quite as bad as the 14" iBook, but it's the same sorta thing. The Air was always for people who prioritised portability, and making it bigger is the opposite of that. And $200 gets you a more capable machine. In conclusion, bring back the 11" Air you cowards.

stet, Sunday, 5 November 2023 22:06 (five months ago) link

The HD chatters like a fucking frenetic chipmunk. I am going to bite the bullet and get a fuckoff big SSD

This is me exactly. The fuckoff big SSD market is a minefield though -- I nearly bought some SanDisk Extremes, and my procrastination turned out to be a lucky escape as they're apparently disasters.

stet, Sunday, 5 November 2023 22:07 (five months ago) link

I know the price differential isn’t great but I’d recommend buying your own external enclosure and ssd. Sandisk is the recent offender of delivering a defective external drive but overall the field’s not great

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Sunday, 5 November 2023 22:22 (five months ago) link

The Air was always for people who prioritised portability, and making it bigger is the opposite of that.

right, 15" is not what i'd choose, and i hope they do a 11 or 12" again. but the air is more than their ultraportable now. it's also their consumer entry-level laptop. and 15" laptops are by far the biggest selling laptops in PC land. they're what people who don't care about portability choose. so i'm surprised to see it do badly 🤷🏻‍♂️

https://www.macrumors.com/2023/07/26/15-inch-macbook-air-weaker-demand-report/

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 6 November 2023 01:54 (five months ago) link

They want you to buy a big iPad rather than an 11" MBA presumably.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 6 November 2023 02:14 (five months ago) link

It’s amazing how much you can do on a tablet or phone now, pretty much all your random home crap. Why buy a laptop if you have one of those?

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 6 November 2023 02:14 (five months ago) link

the interface is better on phone too

lag∞n, Monday, 6 November 2023 02:16 (five months ago) link

yep, maybe the market for consumer laptops (that are not $300 chromebooks) is now non-existent.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 6 November 2023 02:30 (five months ago) link

i use navidrome on synology - it's good. but i haven't figured out the accessing the synology from outside your wifi network though - think it involves tailscale or something - don't want my synology exposed to the big bad internet - i gotta figure it out

, Monday, 6 November 2023 03:04 (five months ago) link

Didn’t need tailscale or anything. Other day friend asked me for the dr mix version of sister Ray and I was able to just access my synology from work and this have access to all my files.

dan selzer, Monday, 6 November 2023 03:09 (five months ago) link

You just need a Synology account - they mediate the connection through a web ... something. Anyway it works in Safari and you can download yr files from wherever.

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 6 November 2023 03:12 (five months ago) link

right i mean to use as a music server. i think navidrome is based on the subsonic protocol so you can use a subsonic-compliant player to stream music from your navidrome install on synology. if you set it up right. i dunno if that works through the synology account interface.

, Monday, 6 November 2023 03:13 (five months ago) link

I hadn't thought about the giant-screen PC laptop market, duh. That does seem to be having a bad year as well, though.

They want you to buy a big iPad rather than an 11" MBA presumably.
Yeah, although by the time you've added a keyboard and trackpad it's much bigger and heavier than the 11 or 12" Macbooks were. Might get better if they roll out the Smart Keyboard, but still.

stet, Monday, 6 November 2023 13:59 (five months ago) link

mainly use/need a laptop for slsking and torrenting + occasional "smart playlist" on iTunes

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 6 November 2023 14:08 (five months ago) link

I couldn't live with just a tablet or big phone - touchscreens are slower to use, the spongy mobile keyboard options I've tried suck, the iOS file system is too obscure (as in with music apps, where things are being saved and where I can go to open files for samplers, etc.)

But I also wouldn't be the market for a 11" MBA because the difference in portability between one and a 15" MBP isn't large enough to matter for me.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 6 November 2023 15:12 (five months ago) link

I had a couple of weeks to play with iPad Air 4th Gen + Apple Pencil 2nd Gen + Logitech Folio Touch earlier this year (bought off eBay for daughter); it was pretty impressive and I began to maybe imagine a future without a laptop... but, it really does get heavy with the proper keyboard, and I manage to corrupt an old HDD (not fatally, I rebuilt it) by plugging two drives into a USB-C hub without sufficient power into the hub (iPads don't really do a safe eject). Still not comfortable with cloud-based Lightroom vs desktop "Classic", either.

xp - Oh, v good point about file systems.

Michael Jones, Monday, 6 November 2023 15:22 (five months ago) link

yeah i wouldnt want to live with just a tablet even besides the work™ things i use it for im too much of a power user and besides am just habituated to it, but for a lot of people even just a big phone is fine, people live on those things theyre totally used to them, they dont need files or a keyboard etc

lag∞n, Monday, 6 November 2023 16:04 (five months ago) link

Slight derail re: the music discussion above--maybe someone here can help me out. My Apple Music library is a combination of streaming stuff and files I keep on a portable external SSD drive (stuff that isn't on the streaming service, like mono versions of some records or live bootlegs). I've gotten tired of having to get up and connect that drive to my MacBook and want to just put those files on my Windows gaming desktop so my MacBook is purely streaming using the iCloud match feature. How can I do that so that Music doesn't give me the "can't locate the local file" message every time I try to play them without the SSD? (It does stream if I hit cancel, but obviously halts playback on each subsequent track unless I hit cancel for each one). Do I have to just delete the albums from my MacBook copy of Music, and re-add it from the desktop computer?

blatherskite, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 17:17 (five months ago) link

The black MacBooks are really ugly. I'm currently using a 13" 2020 MacBook Pro, so I'm hoping I won't need to replace it for a while (my previous MB was a 2013 model).

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 17:22 (five months ago) link

blatherskite, how would you play those songs if they're on a windows machine? the match won't work if they're bootlegs or whatever. i think i'm missing something though.

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 17:28 (five months ago) link

Do I have to just delete the albums from my MacBook copy of Music, and re-add it from the desktop computer?
I had exactly this problem years ago and there's definitely a way to fix it. I *think* what I did was a) export all my playlists, b) hide my iTunes Library and have it create a new one on startup, c) reimport all my playlists.

The overall library is provided by iTunes Match and it doesn't expect local files so it streams everything, and the playlist import brings back all your playlists. NB: You do lose play counts this way, and I *think* ratings too

stet, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 17:43 (five months ago) link

For the paid version, at least, it can match files in my library even if they are not in Apple's streaming service. I think Music uploads it, per this: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204146. For instance, I downloaded a mono rip of Leonard Cohen's first LP weeks ago, added it to my library, and can now play that mono version on my iPhone or desktop.

blatherskite, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 17:44 (five months ago) link

stet's idea sounds good

fwiw iTunes Match lets you download anything you matched if you want to grab your library again at some point, or if you don't feel like paying for it anymore

the fun trick is that if it successfully matches up your crappy 128kbps mp3 from eons ago to something in Apple's catalog, it'll let you download a DRM-free copy in 256 Kbps AAC. not lossless, but not shabby

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 17:52 (five months ago) link

ooh, it looks like it might let you download ALACs now. might be time to resubscribe to Match to use it exactly once

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 17:55 (five months ago) link

I've heard so many iTunes Match horror stories. Wonder if they've fixed those bugs.

what you say is true but by no means (lukas), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 18:18 (five months ago) link

My library got unwieldy enough that I'm pretty sure some of my songs that were supposedly iTunes matched have disappeared into the twilight zone over the years

Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 18:24 (five months ago) link

yeah I avoided match for ever but recently said sure why not in the hopes that I could at least have my apple music playlists (filled w/ cloud material) on my home computer and in trying to scan/upload from my home computer it kept crapping out and I kept retrying and then gave up, and only then realized I now have like 12 copies of each playlist. Like it got as far as uploading the existance of the playlist but failed on all or some of the music.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 19:11 (five months ago) link

Apple will only ever get my local files over my cold dead hard drives

calstars, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 19:18 (five months ago) link

this is why i am rolling my own (via navidrome on synology)

, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 19:48 (five months ago) link

Bought myself a base model Mac Studio, I’m bringing back going on the computer as a discrete activity that happens in a specific place

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 21:40 (five months ago) link

revolutionary that

calstars, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 21:44 (five months ago) link

two months pass...

the united app shows your gate and a little countdown to when boarding starts on the “dynamic island” - genuinely useful

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 7 January 2024 22:35 (three months ago) link

It’s just another reason to look at your phone instead of just going to your gate and relaxing

calstars, Sunday, 7 January 2024 22:53 (three months ago) link

United app also gives you a flight tracker of your flight. And remembers your info.

I say this because the AA app didn't do shit.

pplains, Sunday, 7 January 2024 23:38 (three months ago) link

well you’re already looking at your phone, the little indicator just means you don’t have to keep maniacally switching to the united app to make sure you haven’t disastrously misunderstood the boarding time

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 7 January 2024 23:39 (three months ago) link

Just going to your gate and relaxing

I wish I had your mindset at bus stops too.

pplains, Sunday, 7 January 2024 23:42 (three months ago) link

https://apps.apple.com/app/id1358823008

This is dece

calstars, Monday, 8 January 2024 00:22 (three months ago) link

Doesn't work when you're on the flight and not paying for United wifi.

But it does work on the United app!

pplains, Monday, 8 January 2024 03:05 (three months ago) link

you can connect to united wifi for free.. you can’t do much much but it will update eta, gate etc. and weirdly i got a few updates on various apps like messages and a sports team app that my kids’ coaches uses to inform parents about practices?? very odd to get that sort of notification way up in the air

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 8 January 2024 03:55 (three months ago) link

yeah iirc the free united wifi still allows for push notifications and messaging apps. i think flighty takes advantage of that by updating the app thru what are essentially push notifications

, Monday, 8 January 2024 14:19 (three months ago) link

anyone else get that sweet $92.17 class action payment from "Apple Inc Payouts" today. don't ever knock this country to me.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 03:31 (three months ago) link

thanks for the Flighty recommendation calstars! v nice.

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 14 January 2024 00:50 (three months ago) link

yw

calstars, Sunday, 14 January 2024 01:26 (three months ago) link

two weeks pass...

I treated myself to an Apple Studio Display - attainable price through Apple’s refurb store. There’s a lot of tech fetishism going on in /r/macsetups and apparently I’m no longer a voyeur. However, in terms of basic quality of life improvement omg. The demo ones in the store are too aspirational “here’s how great Final Cut Pro looks editing vacation movies of your Dwell family” If you just allowed folks to dock their MBPs and see their shit and whatever it is they do in 5K, they’d sell 5x more.

My first Mac was a Iix, dead square in time when owning a Mac automatically made you a graphic designer and I kept on with it enough to hassle through endless permutations of Radius boards, backbreaking CRTs, fucked up colors, someone unhelpfully saying “have you degaussed it? maybe you should degauss it” and the madness of color matching. All of that b.s. is mercifully GONE. I actually had to do some color matching web work and being able to dock to this and immediately switch off feels like real world science fiction.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 1 February 2024 14:13 (two months ago) link

As a print first guy, I'm still very satisfied with my Eizo. Talk about color matching...pro displays that have hardware calibration (basically Eizo and the nicer BenQs) I can have multiple calibrations and switch through them on the fly. The other day for the first time I used my spectro to measure the paper I'm printing on and calibrated the monitor that. So not just calibrating to a standard display condition, but calibrating to the specific paper I'm printing on within a specific lighting condition.

dan selzer, Thursday, 1 February 2024 15:25 (two months ago) link

The monitor on my G3 used to do this extremely loud degauss every time it was powered on; nearly drowned out the chime

stet, Thursday, 1 February 2024 15:33 (two months ago) link

three weeks pass...

we'd rather embarrass ourselves with VR goggles than kill people outright with self-driving cars.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 02:00 (one month ago) link

mentioned it elsewhere but I don’t think they were that serious about it, I think they just had CarPlay betas and custom dashes installed and if a car people think
is AI is driving erratically they think that’s cool. it was just CarPlay testers poking at the dashboard while trying to drive normal

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 03:50 (one month ago) link

yeah, there's probably dozens of Apple R&D projects that fizzle out before we even hear about them

Nhex, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 05:26 (one month ago) link

Man I am curious how it would have turned out though.

default damager (lukas), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 05:38 (one month ago) link

I guess it would’ve turned out poorly hence the cancellation

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 06:24 (one month ago) link

cars are a low-margin business. with next-gen carplay it’s possible that any/every car becomes an “apple car” as far as the dash is concerned. they are doing deals to integrate the speedometer, the a/c etc into the interface. and if your phone can automatically reconnect every time you step into the car.. that’s total lock-in to the apple ecosystem without apple having to go through the frankly thankless business of actually producing automobiles

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 08:29 (one month ago) link

Dyson also cancelled their electric vehicle programme after 2 years - citing the huge sustained investment needed and uncertainty of commercial viability.

Dr Drudge (Bob Six), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 10:16 (one month ago) link

i rode in a waymo in SF, it was pretty impressive. i can see why it appealed to apple - presumably they have tons of data from apple maps. but man have you ever seen a waymo? no way that would fly with apple.

, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 13:05 (one month ago) link

Apple's been slowly letting practicality win over aesthetics since Ive left. I'm glad they stopped making broken flat keyboards but supposedly the VR glasses were meant to be just cool-looking glasses instead of the gross torture helmet we got.

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 17:36 (one month ago) link

They should make a ring like Samsung. Would buy

calstars, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 19:48 (one month ago) link

I love the flat keyboards but I might just be divergent in that way

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 21:05 (one month ago) link

oh wait, you mean the mbp ones that were genuinely broken. never mind, carry on

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 21:05 (one month ago) link

the bluetooth keyboards where the AA batteries go into the knurled riser on the back are a really excellent example of where apple's obsession with braun-style bauhaus minimalism totally worked. they are just the platonic ideal imo.

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 22:06 (one month ago) link

three of those have broken on me for unexplained reasons. the bluetooth just goes berzerk

, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 22:22 (one month ago) link

I have to repair mine with my MacBook most mornings

Alba, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 22:39 (one month ago) link

Re-pair, that is

Alba, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 22:39 (one month ago) link

I have one of the classic wired usb ones that I moved to work. I have the knockoff Microsoft Surface bluetooth one at home and it’s way too slow when reconnecting to my MBP but is… close enough

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 29 February 2024 00:15 (one month ago) link

the bluetooth keyboards where the AA batteries go into the knurled riser on the back are a really excellent example of where apple's obsession with braun-style bauhaus minimalism totally worked. they are just the platonic ideal imo.

...and total garbage for long-term use should an AA battery expand ever so slightly from use. "How do you remove a stuck battery from an Apple wireless keyboard?" ---> About 3,910,000 results

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 29 February 2024 02:39 (one month ago) link

screwdriver or just slamming it against a table surely

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 29 February 2024 03:38 (one month ago) link

olive oil and a heat gun

bulb after bulb, Thursday, 29 February 2024 03:50 (one month ago) link

screwdriver or just slamming it against a table surely

Nope!

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 29 February 2024 05:19 (one month ago) link

When I was dealing with them semi-regularly, I'd have to take the keyboard apart as explained here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sPU3VM9128

About 50% of the patients survived.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 29 February 2024 05:22 (one month ago) link

weird, that has never happened to me in 10+ years of using rechargeable batteries

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 29 February 2024 08:16 (one month ago) link

I trust Elvis's experience on this. Our sample size of two probably doesn't compare to having to address a much greater number

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 29 February 2024 14:45 (one month ago) link

they should have made the little tube bigger. there fixed it somebody make me head of design at apple inc

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 29 February 2024 14:51 (one month ago) link

but you'll ruin the aesthetics!

koogs, Thursday, 29 February 2024 15:55 (one month ago) link

I’ve had the same thing happen with metal flashlights, especially those maglite multiple-D cell models. Any battery that decides to corrode and expand will jam it up.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 1 March 2024 13:43 (one month ago) link

Larry David uses Siri in the new Curb season… pic.twitter.com/7Cat3a8qQU

— Ryan Jones (@rjonesy) February 26, 2024

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 2 March 2024 21:56 (one month ago) link

https://www.macrumors.com/2024/03/04/m3-macbook-air-two-displays-lid-closed/

hallelujah

, Monday, 4 March 2024 13:48 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

is it good when retailers are trying to dump stock 3 months after launch and no software is being released?

https://www.zdnet.com/article/amazon-is-selling-the-apple-vision-pro-at-a-rare-200-discount-and-i-dont-expect-it-to-last/

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 5 April 2024 18:44 (two weeks ago) link

I thought Woot sold returned / refurbished stuff

calstars, Friday, 5 April 2024 18:47 (two weeks ago) link

after the early starry-eyed reviews, not sure I've heard anything I would qualify as good news for the Vision Pro

default damager (lukas), Friday, 5 April 2024 20:36 (two weeks ago) link

is this good?

https://www.macrumors.com/2024/04/05/tim-cook-sells-nearly-200k-aapl-shares/

In 2015, Fortune reported that Cook planned to "give away all his wealth."

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 6 April 2024 04:05 (two weeks ago) link

That’s $34 million …nbd

calstars, Saturday, 6 April 2024 07:36 (two weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

no surprise. regular people aren't going to adopt AR/VR until it's the size and weight of a pair of sunglasses.

beard papa, Monday, 22 April 2024 19:03 (three days ago) link

Tbf I don’t think they expected this to be a hit with regular people yet, but it’s not going to be a hit with tech nerds in the meantime if there is nothing you can do with it because they make no news apps themselves after launch, and their hostile behavior has driven away the developers they need.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 22 April 2024 19:08 (three days ago) link

At rhe stores they have these little circular seating areas for anyone who doesn’t care embarrassing themselves to sit and try it out .,, also there’s an espresso machine there to help with point of sale

calstars, Monday, 22 April 2024 19:18 (three days ago) link

xpost

After I posted that I said something similar to a friend of mine who bought one and he basically said what you did: Apple messed up the launch. The codec they use for immersive content was kept secret and they haven't released anything themselves since the day it launched.

beard papa, Monday, 22 April 2024 20:34 (three days ago) link

https://www.macrumors.com/2024/04/23/apple-cuts-vision-pro-shipments/

Apple has dropped the number of Vision Pro units that it plans to ship in 2024, going from an expected 700 to 800k units to just 400k to 450k units, according to Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo.

Orders have been scaled back before the Vision Pro has launched in markets outside of the United States, which Kuo says is a sign that demand in the U.S. has "fallen sharply beyond expectations." As a result, Apple is expected to take a "conservative view" of headset demand when the Vision Pro launches in additional countries.

, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 18:41 (two days ago) link

A swing…and a miss. Good try though

calstars, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 20:11 (two days ago) link

From where did they build their expectations?

pplains, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 20:41 (two days ago) link

Increasingly Unfamiliar Apple Cringe Objects

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 21:21 (two days ago) link

no surprise. regular people aren't going to adopt AR/VR until it's the size and weight of a pair of sunglasses.

I tried the demo at a store -- the eye tracking and peripheral-free gestures are mind-readingly "this changes everything" magical but yeah, it's so heavy that the thought of watching a whole movie in it immediately felt like a chore.

They'd already separated out a heavy, bulky battery pack -- why not offload the computing hardware and weight itself onto a separate portable computer? they could have made the headpiece lighter and possibly carved out a headless portable mac category for people who don't even care about VR.

If that also helped cut down on development time, they could have released this during the pandemic and likely would have definitively "won" the VR space but maybe having your signature product be emotionally tied to a global catastrophe is off-brand for Apple?

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 14:04 (yesterday) link

I mean they launched the iPod right after 9/11 and that was OK

stet, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 14:48 (yesterday) link

Ha! I guess in retrospect U2 did more reputational damage to Apple than Al Qaeda

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 14:54 (yesterday) link

Philip... thank you

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 15:21 (yesterday) link

I dont think it’s the computing hardware that’s the weight but rather the glass and metal accents (purely aesthetic) vs thr quest’s use of plastic

calstars, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 15:58 (yesterday) link


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