Mayo haven't been on dis ting since 1951: ILF welcomes all comers to Cluiche Cheannais na hÉireann 2013

Perennial sleeping giants and serial losing finalists Mayo take on Dublin tomorrow, 3.30pm. Beg, borrow or steal a stream, marvel at the brawn and desire of the amateurs on the park, ask yr friendly GAA posters what the hell it takes for a foul to be called, why hands are allowed and how knowing when to take yr point is a key cornerstone of malevolent irish rural psyche.

Enjoy the match. Boo the Dubs. Mayo, god help us.

Good man, high time for ILF expansion imo.

best bits from football, rugby and boxing so i hear

Is this the one with sticks or without?

the one with sticks is called curling & they're allowed to kill each other under duress

should have said 'churling', helas l'escalier

Without

The fields in both counties are too small for hurling to ever have been developed as they art form it is in the dairy counties, is my theory.

But the ditches of boggy mayo, rocky kerry, the yards between the towers of ballymun, the border gaps of armagh, these are the spaces that light struggles into, that murder and dark deeds are swallowed whole by, that breed yr modern hack-of-all-trades gaa footballer

Ah now you make it sound like the most romantic country on earth

It is.

the fuck is this doing here

Being a football thread.

All set for it, think I've got a pub to watch in.

alright, first post on ilf. Going well so far.

gtfo newbie

My interest in GAA has waned since Limerick crapped out against Clare tbh. Who is this player for Mayo that everyone's raving about?

Just webmailed you about this DMac.

My heart and family loyalties say Mayo, my head says Dublin.

Anyone going? Tickets like hens teeth.

Does this mean that I can post about the rugby on here without getting laughed out of town? cz no one even mentioned the Lions tour while it was happening so far as i could make out, total travesty

♫♪ you're windsor davies
you post what you want ♪♫

You can start a thread i guess but iirc there were ile threads tbf

Tickets arent a fuckin hope. Brother got 1 through contacts, they're trickling down but the system of allocating them out through clubs and organisations around the country means its not a market as such, its a game of who you know. He's not mad into it but feels it'd be bad form to sell.

I'll be watchin at home then joinin achill cru up around croker when we win.

Get an ip shielder and rte player will sort ye out folks btw

looked about ile for threads at the time, couldn't find any, assumed after a cursory glance through some older threads on the topic that rfu was just the sort of bourgie noncery that the stern stock of ilx had no truck with

It is today

The mayo player everyone is raving about is the redeveloped aidan o'shea, always a fielder of note but physically reconditioned over the summer to a cross between longcat and a sherman tank. His fetching of the high ball above a forest of thuggery is rivalled as a sight this year only by his can't-fail method of seeking out opposition defenders to run over on his maraudings.

O'Connor starts tomorrow with a dislocated shoulder not fully healed. Seven minutes max.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KN5Ft1arJU8

I think we had a Lions thread. I know Six Nations has a couple of threads on ILE.

I can only see a 'Young Lions' thread

Don't care for rugger myself but imo ILF should offer a home to all your poor neglected sports, your huddled bantzes

Minors doing a fucking job on tyrone

But a match in it yet

Che O'Donnell on for Tyrone I wonder how votes his Faither

INTENSE START

mayo 0-1

stick yr hawkeye up yer arse, bet its a dub working it

cheap ball out of hand from cafferkey gives it back to dubs easy kicking distance out 0-1 to 0-1

mayo intensity giving them opportunites, which they are missing. must be a final

0-3 to 0-1 but letting them away with it not to already be five up

one on one the mayo halfline have them scared, three points in it

shitty goal conceded from allardycesque punt all level

dub on the back foot but comfortable there while mayo struggle to turn it into points, one in it to the eventual winners

another soft wide from mcloughlin, the theo walcott of this final

Lots of wides. Dublin taking time getting into it!

Bloody hell @ crossbar!

thought that hennelly stopped it

dublin much more penetrating when they get it in attack, but holding it in reserve yet

another great save hennelly, mayo look paperthin at the back

Hennelly justifying petrol money. Dublin seem to be pushing now.

seven mayo wides yet, a lot of them gettable

right, spurs stream on, two screens max, see ye the other end

and commiserations

A lot of sloppy play from both teams

(xpost) Perhaps. It's a tough one to call. Will look like Cork supporters have swamped stadium by end with amount of red in crowd from sunburn.

Dublin out of jail in an incredible way to be only a point down. Awful mistake by the Mayo keeper.

Very poor game so far, which is a shame.

And shit by cluxton too. Game on.

Just as Dublin were getting back into it

Just as

MDMA

MDMA rushing thru

Dublin know how to win

Ref has been woeful all day, erratic on both sides.

Yeah agreed, not biased but shit

He doesn't know what a foul is.

Mayo determined to cause nervous breakdowns...

Ref not great

There we are

Cant say ye didnt deserve it lads, to win a final you just need to win it

Four players managed to lose ball in front of Dublin goal ffs

And rte player crashed. Typical

MAYO!

NOT REALLY

what were they doing at the end there?

Very disappointing considering Mayo had waited since 1951 and started so well.

What was up with that free? Anyone?

Both teams blew it repeatedly

Mayo were so crap in the 2nd half. Maybe the freetaker thought there was more time on the clock.

By a point FFS! So many wides.

That final free was unreal. What was he thinking?

Mayo with hand pass fannydangle when horsing it into the full forward line was what was needed

Cluxton dreading speech more than match. Funny he didn't raise cup. To each their own.

Mayo with hand pass fannydangle when horsing it into the full forward line was what was needed

And vice versa as regards Dublin, IMO.

Everyone OTT with fannydangling.

Disappointing that mayo didnt play their game is really it. No football on display at all, and ugly ugly wides

Both sides were poor and Dublin kinda won by dint of that we have a right to be here sport man united thing.

Yeah exactly that

I had a feeling it might be that way, felt very good being there today after getting the monkey off our back in 2011. In some ways I'd say Mayo didn't have a strategy. Dublin have won all their big games this year without obliterating anyone, all felt very subtly in control, nobody has ever said they played perfectly.

It is a big buzz tho, I was at tons of games in the 90s but I worked in a car park near Croker from 97 to the time I left for London.

Saw the 95 final in person and loads of losses, that team should have won way more. Nice to see another win after 2011.

Mayo the best team by some way all year, but otm about dub having a strategy to win and we not. Something to work on next year imo, this team not down nor out.

Gavin is the manager we've never had. Never seen such plotted control in GAA with Dublin. Still think this Dublin team are going to win more titles now, not every year or whatever.

Does it make sense that Mayo seemed to lack a finisher? I mean they had forwards to burn at times but not a person at either end in defence (apart from Hennelly who I wasn't aware of but wow @ the majority of his game tiday) or up front who just existed to shut things down.

Feature of the holistic approach i think, not a lot of use for that type of specialist. Tho o'connor has been that guy all summer until his collarbone gave and he clearly wasnt in shape today

Both half back lines killed each other which only makes weird sense cos both were shit in earlier games.

Wuss (xpost)

i could be wrong but sometime ilf lurker in orbit may or may not find something to catch her eye in these glorious hd shots of the men of the west mid-action

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/mayo-john-o-keeffe-s-player-by-player-guide-1.1535369

horan stays, and rightly so. 55 bad minutes set against a glorious summer and progress all round. get a few of them minors in wearing their medals for training imo

fitness hicks

^

http://www.joe.ie/pic-of-the-day/try-to-keep-calm-mayo-fans-but-dave-grohl-has-just-clambered-aboard-the-mayo-for-sam-2014-bandwagon/

gaa ruins gaa

idk what encapsulates mayo gaa better, the no show first half at croker, the rifle-under-chin red card, the resurgent display once all hope had died or the chucking it upon realising that the resurgent display had carried us out in actual front

mayo god help us

"The mayo player everyone is raving about is the redeveloped aidan o'shea, always a fielder of note but physically reconditioned over the summer to a cross between longcat and a sherman tank. His fetching of the high ball above a forest of thuggery is rivalled as a sight this year only by his can't-fail method of seeking out opposition defenders to run over on his maraudings."

this fucking guy tho

Like I said, I thought the sending off was harsh. You can let players get away with dumb stuff like that in GAA surely, it wasn't malicious. Kerry that bit cleverer with the ball, I fear Mayo have blown their chance.

But why won't my phone bookmark ILX threads, eh?

lol

sending off was otm according to an ethos that sez you can't react to thuggery like I said I can't ever love gaa because they want skill to be beaten up by village hero bullies at every level of their football

Yeah football has been in a bit of a mess and the steps to sort it out have only added more confusion and lousy refereeing. Then there's the overly defensive safe play, yr Donegals and so on. Great game today though, mainly down to Mayo just saying fuck it and going for it,

still think the coach that can get a team of fellas using space say 10% as well as the average championship team in soccer will change gaa forever

13 a side? I can't see it happening myself

just hoping my dad survives watching this match tbh

ref had had far too much to do with it the past 20 mins two soft penos and an advantage miles after the fact

2 soft frees for kerry in ET too

Security holding back the fat and furious Mayo fan was the moment of the game

ref had two different approaches in that game, strange

no-one really commented on it either. joe brolly talking about how mayo lacked "ruthlessness" which was straight bollocks imo. kerry look fitter and less leggy than mayo over the 2nd half of ET though.

Have that ya cunts!

ahem

no, no, carry on by all means tbh

local gardaí will have had mixed feelings regarding the day's sport

7/1 for Donegal to win. Madness.

12/1 ht & ft

rank stuff

look at that. cuntacting from kickouts in a fucking final. gluck lads.

better since. please god mcbrearty makes the difference

Shit game alright

Disappointing. That little kick at the end was shockingly unsporting.

dubs not even close to tested yesterday. ominous.

Same every year. Will believe when we are actually tested. Lost the first test to Donegal last year, with the same manager who was incredibly naive on the day.

My posts upthread balance praise for him with disgust.

nakh is the wintour of our diss content (darraghmac) wrote this on thread Mayo haven't been on dis ting since 1951: ILF welcomes all comers to Cluiche Cheannais na hÉireann 2013 on board I Love Football on 24-Aug-2014

"The mayo player everyone is raving about is the redeveloped aidan o'shea, always a fielder of note but physically reconditioned over the summer to a cross between longcat and a sherman tank. His fetching of the high ball above a forest of thuggery is rivalled as a sight this year only by his can't-fail method of seeking out opposition defenders to run over on his maraudings."

this fucking guy tho

balanced against dubs being beaten once in two years, and very few of those were even close

jaysus

kinda feel both teams will fancy they have a better performance in them tbh

Gavin out. Pathetic bottler strategy and we still nearly won. We were afraid of losing and played within ourselves, even after we'd basically won it. player for player Dublin should win, if they abandon whatever cagey post-Donegal panic they played with today. Can't be sure of anything tho based on that.

Like what is worse than a manager getting it so wrong one year that that influenced him to go too far the other way and get it wrong the year after. Ref hadn't a breeze how to ref the tackle for either side throughout.

agreed on all that

dub had that, we were out.

can't call replay,both teams poor today and may or may not have a performance in them

ref a funny mix of fussy and laissez faire all round

pretty frustrated with how it went to be honest. the moment that keeps coming back to me is when paul flynn attempted a glory point from beside the sideline with 20 yards of space in front of him and brogan or mcmenamin free - we were 6 or 7 up at that stage and it was a point at the very least, could well have been a goal.

dublin were bizarre, no clear strategy but scored nearly every chance they got, whereas mayo missed a lot of good chances, enough to suggest dublin should have let them shoot instead of all those fouls. i honestly felt the ref didn't really know what to do when 2/3 dublin players surrounded a mayo guy, he'd just run into them and fall over and it'd be a free. not saying dublin didn't foul at times, but the anomalous number of free kicks was like it was a rugby match or something in which dublin failed to understand the referee's "interpretation" of the tackling.

i think gavin is a farce by now but i would be fairly confident dublin should win the replay. the main consolation of the draw is that i'm home by chance for the replay and a mate texted me immediately after to offer me a ticket. used to work near croker for literally every game for 7/8 years when i last lived in dublin (8 years ago) so it's been about 17 or 18 years since i got to see a game.

Mayo p wilfully stupid in their choice of kick/pass, last week and at the start of this.

good open game though

ooof O'Connor on cluxton

it's just like watching a Brazil made up entirely of dungas

carrying parsons. his passing last week was shit and so it is today again.

I'd want that goal between the teams at this stage, shaping up to be a big half hour this

it's like the cunts aren't even listening to me.

cuuunts

Thought Dublin were done after that slump at the start of the second half - we are a strange team, we looked beaten but then had an absolutely magical five minutes. Then we took the foot off the gas again. I'm not sure that mixture of caution and wild abandon is a way to win the All Ireland, it's not blended right at the moment. The passing at the end was terrifying, but the way they used to to score the third goal justified it completely.

Was in Croker for the first time in 20 years yesterday, I worked on every match day from 1996 to 2007 then moved to London. The quality on show for a 20 euro terrace ticket is unreal. The first half in particular was just brilliant.

yeah I'm over the raging turmoil of watching it in real time and the better team with the bigger squad won a very good semifinal

hard for the rest of the country to pick a team to support in the final imo....

"The mayo player everyone is raving about is the redeveloped aidan o'shea, always a fielder of note but physically reconditioned over the summer to a cross between longcat and a sherman tank. His fetching of the high ball above a forest of thuggery is rivalled as a sight this year only by his can't-fail method of seeking out opposition defenders to run over on his maraudings."

Haven't seen it yet but he's been featured in a sport-swapping programme called "toughest trade" with NFL and I predict all ilx will bow down

one of the awful sports banter viral cunt sites was tweeting about the first weird thing in his wikipedia here, so i decided to edit it to include the second.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aidan_O%27Shea_(Mayo_footballer)

Shergar? Lols

he was middling, tho tbf its hard to compete with the freaks of nature in the nfl combine

State sponsored violence.

Thats some ten minutes.

Dublin fondness of cheap shot tackles hasn't hurt them in a few years but won't help them today- don't ask me why today and never before

Great game. Kerry playing like a gaa team that has finally figured out how easy this game could be with use of space and simple passing

What a game. I was hoping it would go to a replay. Mayo are going to get slaughtered :p

Well it's a final yknow

i hate kerry. i am happy. i particularly hate donaghy. bootcut jeans start a fight outside a chipper fucking dickhead.

kevin mc was unreal. that shoulder is up there with my favourite sports moments. juddering hit.

brilliant game - geaney is one of the best players to watch in the country. all that said, dublin doled out two goals - without that they would have won easily.

Anyone watching this at CP today?

Wish I was but I'm in London. Think Mayo's build-up this year has a been a lot better, off the pitch I mean. It's a failure if Dublin lose though.

Gtfo

An béal bocht is an béal bocht but that is obscene from the malahide man there

This will be merciless I fear. I can see no way it can even be close. Not sure I'd watch it if I hadn't lads from home over.

Mayo were lucky to beat Tipp in the semi final tbh

I honestly think it'll be close, Mayo will be up for it and they were very close to beating Dublin last year. The rest of the season doesn't matter. We are a machine of sorts but we do let teams into games.

I can send a measurement of my heartrate if you like. Maybe I'm just not used to following a good team.

Interesting tactic for stopping mdma scoring against us, this

at least the thread title can stay the same for another year

frustrated with not having a dece live stream, i'm giving up on this.

game on?

all level, 64th min. wow.

should've written about this one right?

Nope. This was a dublin win since april

Amazing.

Dublin will hardly play that poorly in the next game

We'll hardly score two own goals

In fairness Mayo deserve credit for not allowing the Dubs to play

Lads it's a slow study that will get excited about this. We're precisely where we were this morning, seventy minutes from either a humiliating or maddening loss in a croker final.

Mayo, God help us.

Perennial sleeping giants and serial losing finalists Mayo take on Dublin tomorrow, 3.30pm. Beg, borrow or steal a stream, marvel at the brawn and desire of the amateurs on the park, ask yr friendly GAA posters what the hell it takes for a foul to be called, why hands are allowed and how knowing when to take yr point is a key cornerstone of malevolent irish rural psyche.

Enjoy the match. Boo the Dubs. Mayo, god help us.

― a fox barks, btw. just barks. (darraghmac), Saturday, 21 September 2013 14:21 (two years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

I was right, that said we threw that away. 7 minutes injury time was outrageous, Connolly sideline kick droppable offence, heinous, awful.

Worst Dublin performance in years, gotta feel Mayo threw that away tho.

Perhaps as tv spectators the wet pitch and its effect is hard to understand - the quality was woeful.

Agreed, though that would have suited us far more than ye. Dublin hardly set out to stop mayo playing.

Yeah, my overall feeling, particularly in the weird moments after your first spell second half, is that the game was begging to be won, and some terrible attempts happened.

Like holy Jesus it was there for Mayo, and not taken

It got very sloppy in the 2nd half, mistakes all over place yet it was fun to watch as a neutral all the same. Bernard Brogan was shite today

No way the dubs play as bad again, no way

Congrats to them, I say

It's in the bag. They should pre record the victory speech

Formality mere formality

Parsons has zero talent.

Jesus Christ we will always find a way to throw a final

Were you at Croker, Darragh? Cos someone who looked like yrself in a grey hoodie and mayo jersey popped up on the telly looking glum on the 75th min there

Saw him but looked more like one of the omalleys from louisburgh

I was gonna photo him! Had that exact thought. Dublin play with fear up front, like they get bollocked for shooting if the percentage isn't high enough, thankfully Costello hasn't been brainwashed like that. Also for a team that barely ever score goals we sure are obsessed with trying to engineer them. I know, moaning after we won two in a row. It was a stunning game.

Fully agreed, both last time out and today dub could have put the game to bed but we're holding back shooting from V reachable distance

Great game, no shame in losing it

Gk decision couldn't have gone much worse but we were much better and it's probable that Hennelly s kicking was a factor in that so.....

Imagine it went to extra time. Like that's prob a human rights abuse.

This time around the bench strength told. I'm still confused about it not doing so last time tbh.

Worthy winners and a truly great team tbf, can play a few ways and don't rely on one or two individuals.

Next year is our year

the decision to change the keeper was remarkably bad. i guess rochford will still survive for next year though.

challops warning but, imo aidan o'shea is shit, he never scores, he is terrible at shooting, and for a big guy he actually ends up rolling around on the ground a lot and isn't actually able to batter through people, though he keeps trying. did he even score a point in either of the finals?

He's shit in this system, I don't think that's a challop. In a system that suited him he was imo the best footballer in the country. Both systems got us to finals but are p much radically different approaches to the game. Hard to say what fine margins could be eked out either way for the sake of argument really. When oshea was great we were the best footballing team in the country and should've won one. The past couple of years feel much more like an incremental gains systemic approach where we are predictable and consistent and as a result made a final this year that we might not have expected to.

Think there's definitely room to introduce more talent and intent in that midfield and not be so reactive, but the system is probably here to stay and that's likely due to gavins success in deploying the same method and attitude with Dublin imo, it's the current benchmark.

That Donegal for Sam thanks page has to be a pisstake NN?

Fb page

God help us

What's happened? Do you hate Tyrone when they're playing football or hurling, I can't remember? Or just in general?

I can ignore them most of the time tbh, all the nordie teams are rough showers a bastards tho

Mayo threw away a strong lead against cork then didn't

Croí briste avec yon cunts obv

sounds like some game, i'm about to head out to watch it

stream?

has there ever been a more overrated gaa player than aidan o'shea?

— Ronan Fitzgerald (@rmkf) July 30, 2017

discus

It's a combo of being surrounded by shite, being the big player in the team, his own inconsistency and rarely doing it when it counts.

Overrated, yeah, at this stage.

Most ever? Ah now cmon.

he's just not good! he scored something like two fucking points in the entire championship last year. and he goes to ground a lot. i don't get the hype at all, he's nowhere near the level of a keegan or o'connor.

you're definitely going to win this though

rossies so wasteful

terrible finishing, jesus lads

Fuck ya

Like they never saw a fuckin ball.

Cloggers. Shit kickers. A joke.

my heart is thumping and i'm not from either county

why no extra time

Cos we suffered enough

An awful game and a shameful display of shit football

spillane exactly right, it was two teams who looked scared of going and winning it.

xpost agreed. it was exciting but the quality not good.

It was an exciting game!

ah man i fucking love watching gaa on rte - such a wave of nostalgia for ireland

It's a brilliant service there's no doubt

might get the season pass. it cost fucking 14 euro to watch that. it's 99 for the whole season. caught between a rock and a hard place really.

That's expensive alright

Here lads the game wasn't as bad as the Kerry one, that was total shite

i was in bed for that one. late night. i still wouldn't write mayo off - they were mostly shite last year until the final.

I was watching from the pov of wanting one team to string a fucking attack together

When you see gaa teams and they're completely unable to use space or make a decent decision in a move you wonder what the fuck training sessions are for and what they select fellas based on. There isn't ten players in the country with the brain to play lower league soccer in England imo

o'rourke/brolly/spillane are fucking gas old codgers xpost

Roch out!

I love the Brolly - Spillane dynamic. Brolly - "Best to stay silent when we see just how static Roscommon are here" - 5 second silence before Spillane squeals in his Kerry tone - "THEY'RE NOT MOOOOVING!"

the bit at the end where o'rourke made some joke and they were all about to lose their shit laughing, great telly.

Best for all concerned we end this now

Blow it up ref. Underneath those jerseys they're still men for god's sake.

The Monday Game

Kept meaning to go down to that rough-as-fuck pub just up the road from me that shows GAA every Sunday, however the Premier League's starting up again so I suppose it'll be fucking Arsenal from now on.

wtf happened the rossies? i was in work yesterday so i missed it. mayo are going to give kerry a game aren't they? just don't bother turning up until the semi-finals.

tyrone could trouble dublin too if we're as wasteful as we were on saturday.

Think we'll get battered but hey this could be the year seeing as no hype

last year was p similar to this though i guess - same stumbling route through. they must be a bit tired tho. is the kerry game this weekend?

Fortnight. And I in Milton keynes

i'll be in nyc. not paying 20 dollars to watch gaa at 10am, even the dubs.

aidan o'shea playing at full-back! i don't care that they're 1-1 to zero up - that is fucking madness.

As I said, I'm only getting scores relayed to me.

What dyou care for Aidan o Shea anyway!

true enough but if he's actually supposed to be a key player then you can't move him to full-back. donaghy isn't even kerry's best forward.

this game is fucking nuts

knife-edge doesn't even describe this.

what a match, fucking hell. thus ends my liveblog.

mayo love the drama!

German gone what's happenwd

mayo equalised in injury-time. huge back and forth game, mayo were three up a few times, kerry two or three up at times. kerry missed a (long) free at the death.

so a replay.

Ffs

Spurs and mayo. Maybe I'm the problem

definitely should have won today but in the final minutes were lucky to draw

A synopsis that rings through the ages tbf

These are the hard times lads

I think this is the year tbh

well that was easy

do you actually think it's the year?

Jesus it's a different game pitchside. Space just disappears.

Yeah. I think this is it. The journey has been so different to the usual and the focus and variety is there.

The experience finally seems to be worth more than just lending an air of doom.

wasn't it a kind of similar year to last year? like gradual improvement after early poor performances? i think kerry are actually shite so i'd be more worried from your pov. should have cunted them thusly the first day.

guess tomorrow's game is a factor, i have no idea what level tyrone are at yet, such is the nature of it. tbh tho it is hard to win 3 in a row, to not lose a game for 3 years. can't go on forever for the dubs, good and all as they look.

Other years it would've been about not having beaten Kerry at croker in two decades.

This time it was how to take them tactically, how to effect our own game to meet the Roscommon performance, no drama talk, no air of tragedy for the press. Business at the business end, like Dubs and Kerry assume as a matter of course.

XP I've only seen bits of Tyrone but people who know are telling me they are like hungry animals. Be a test I'd suspect.

yeah i am fairly concerned about it - it's a pity there aren't more good teams, or even seeding, the whole thing is so badly weighted, easy games and then this huge leap into the unknown.

that's a good point about mayo tbf, there hasn't been the same level of cringey hoping, certainly not for the second game, the first there was a bit. but you know in the lead-up to the final all that entitled shite will be back, even if it's driven by the media it still seems to infect the team. the last day the game was there to be won and they just would not take it. in the end kerry had a free on halfway which they panicked over and kicked to themselves, leading to a mayo equaliser. maybe that's behind them now but i dunno.

on the free i mean barry john keane, i think, literally kicked it up in the air short and ended up having to touch it next himself, resulting in a mayo free

As I said, the route this time may be the only difference. Could be that with it all cleared away the next three weeks could see a reversion, worth watching for.

Rochford has repurposed the whole team tho, each player a component, no stars, and the squad can play a few styles. Tricky decision going right, and real confidence you can draw from when things falter, not the brittle kidstuff we bit our lips for in other years.

I'm confident.

God help us

lol

I'd love to watch this tomorrow but what are the chances when Liverpool are playing Arsenal at the same time?

You in London? Bound to be places.

well.

the first half was fucking unreal - the second half frustrated me a bit, but still, an incredibly easy win.

I wasn't even listening after the second minute.

See ye.

Will be on road for this I think

Feel confident that it will be a game, but with this dub team there's no guarantees tbh

Soft goal to concede there

Mayo have been passing badly but defending well.

Dublin will pulverise us in the second if we're that sloppy

Couple of phantom free kicks given to Dub imo

Dublin can't get their game going at all but theres still only 1 pt in it. That last Dublin free was odd alright. Def yellow card moments before it too

Vaughan ffs that's outrageous

Great goal but Dublin bench will be worth a lot at 14 Vs 14

No arguments. Vaughan owes the county nothing but he'll carry the blame for that.

otm

Mayo should have got a penalty tho

Impossible to call those. I mean there's no foul but what a ref calls and I don't feel he favoured either team

disagree about the phantom frees - on at least two occasions first half a mayo player practically sat on a dublin forward and nothing happened. the injury time can fuck off too, utterly ludicrous shit playing about 3/4 minutes desperate for an equaliser.

one of the more satisfying dublin wins but again we played poorly in a final - it was extremely impressive we they won the ball in midfield when it mattered, having not done so all day. i can only imagine how horrible it is and i feel sorry for mayo as a team and for the supporters but i honestly can't stick the hatred and resentment that comes dublin's way. kilkenny destroyed everyone for years in hurling and all we got was mythology about cody as ferguson and worship of a great side - only a few specialist journalists or the sunday game pundits will actually give dublin respect or even bother to talk tactics instead of shiting on with sexual fantasies about a team causing "panic in the dublin ranks" or "chaos from the kickout" etc, wetting themselves over the prospect of a loss.

even in the preamble the entire week was all mayo-centric coverage and not a word mentioned about the fact that dublin are on the edge of becoming one of the great sides. i know it's hard and not irish to actually praise a victor, but still - it's not like dublin fans were sitting back thinking "here we go another meaningless win" - i have little experience of supporting a successful team but today was no lesser a day for us even with two previous years' victories.

in fact, weirdly, today felt the biggest deal since we broke our duck in 2011.

I've not seen the Dublin hate tbh. All acknowledge this as the best squad in football history and damn near if not the best team.

If you don't see it said enough I'd reckon it's because it's so apparent as to be as boring as analysing idk mansell or Schumacher when their dominance was killing F1. That attention will at some stage start to move to how and when and by whom the incumbent will be beaten is, I think, inevitable.

Kilkenny and hurling is different. Hurling is prettier for a start, and Kilkenny never won it with anything so mundane as tactics or dark arts, and that's not a criticism of the talent the dubs have (and have needed) for both, they are requirements for a modern football team in a way that they're not for hurling.

No multi champion team will go long staying popular in football, that's as plain a fact as there is.

I still think the dubs are borne very fondly by the rest of the country and fully acknowledged as the best by a shot across every department, so idk if they feel hard done by in coverage it's not how it seems from outside.

Injury time was nonsense. Don't think, again, that the ref played a big impact in the game. Bench and knowhow won it, and that was as good as I think I hoped for.

I feel it a serious shortcoming of ilx proper btw that I won't be treated as the victim of appalling tragedy for the next month, my rawness and shorttemperedness won't be written off with the understanding deserved and if they even notice that I'm only half human every mid-September thru October it will be dismissed as gnomic deems or some shit.

Grief. Twas all in grief and twas ever grief. Think of me when the leaves turn and I cupless and drunk with the want of the bit of glory. And wonder that I can smile at all, not that it seems to come with an edge

yeah agree the ref was generally fine but that injury time was to the point of outrageous. my perspective may be skewed from being in britain, but eg, both second captains and off the ball have had ex-mayo players as pundits this week and generally all year, they have had no ex-dublin players. i wouldn't even mind if it didn't come down to "who do you think will win"/"well i suppose i'll be kilt if i don't say mayo" - like seriously, and these are the good sport shows, and that passes for punditry.

there's a tone to articles i read all week and it really is these ludicrous fantasies of dublin imploding, it's all just so gleeful and before the fact. on the hurling thing, i accept it's different but it's still a wild double standard. jim gavin in particular is basically ignored. the beauty of dublin is the tactics, the movement etc. there wasn't loads of that today but there was enough, they've kept the flame alive, along with mayo and kerry, and prob kept football in some kind of decent state.

i mean i dunno if watching a game is different in ireland but in london, for years, everywhere you watch you just have people from any/every county rabidly supporting whoever dublin play against, complaining about refereeing decisions, saying "it's hard to beat 16 men", "they're cheating" etc etc, i get it, people hate capital cities - but i do think it seeps beyond just pub behaviour and generally into the talk of the game, apart from like, live on tv or pat spillane/joe brolly/oisin mcconville who all love the current team.

it's worse in the preamble though - it's like the desperation for dublin to lose becomes this wild hype and fantasy, as i already alluded to. anyway i shouldn't be moaning, it was an unbelievably entertaining game, nothing beats gaa at that level. the tension was insane, i genuinely felt faint after the game and had to go get some air.

i hope mayo win one but for whatever reason i really, really hope it isn't against us.

xpost haha - i ended up watching the match in a really bad irish pub in central london as i was buying suits for my brother's wedding with my two brothers - was great to have us all together for it but the pub was full mayo - i was polite initially but after a few beers and the utterly demented tension of it all i was roaring at the telly as much as everyone else. afterwards the mayo supporters looked utterly fucking distraught - sometimes people do that thing, even when watching on telly, of shaking hands or commiserating - i couldn't bring myself to do so, it would have implied i understood or thought i wasn't being patronising or something, there was nothing to say.

Maybe watching with a mix of supporters is the difference, and yeah capital city and the dominance means you'll not get a fair hearing in a pub full of neutrals.

I don't be watching the build ups to all Ireland finals tbh. There's nothing good ever comes of it.

Enjoy the win. It was in all fairness an absolute cracking game for a final with so much at stake for both teams.

it was incredible. genuinely i felt like i was on drugs until about 90 mins after.

Got the final lined up to watch tomorrow (obv knew the score already), but the dialogue of the both of you only made me love it way way more on forehand. Just wanted to say that.

I have no direct comparison but my father in law tolerated me throughout which you must take my word for it has not been achieved under any other circumstances

xp strap yrself in its a belter

Surely will. Yer bantz tho, it's already half the game, what it's about. It truly is.

Jesus I hope we're not bantsing. GAA bants is very fuckin bad as far as I can see. I think that straight up sincere disagreement is the much more common tone, but like fuckin dead serious now, men banging their open hands about the left foot of a corner back like he was arguing with you about a land deal or something like it

Not aligning yer bantz with RTE GAA "bantz", like. The two of you actually bring something to the table here that goes way beyond the discussion of corner back left feet (though left feet are not to be underestimated). Value, investment.

But then I know you Deems for dismissing a compliment whenever it comes yer way, so that's on my watch.

Is there scope for an article on mayo

I dunno what else there is like it in sport at this stage.

Hate to bring it up but I'll be damned if I let lg say it first....

Aidan O'Shea has still never scored a point in an all ireland final.

Staggering.

just watched the last 20 mins again. wish i was in dublin today.

xpost i do agree about mayo and the madness of it. my da says limerick hurling is similar but it's not. if they peaked like this 10-15 years ago they'd have been grand tho.

xxpost o'shea is the most overrated player in the game. he's afraid to shoot. not saying he's not effective but he's wildly overemphasised. gaa still has a big man fantasy - the o'shea/donaghy shit was embarrassing, the game has moved way beyond that crap.

reckon the biggest cheer of the entire championship was o'shea winning one ball in the air over donaghy in the first semi-final - that's some english football type shit.

also - lee keegan throws his gps tracker at dean rock as he takes the final free. good thing he's not from dublin he'd prob be publicly hung.

I said I'd raise it before you did!

There's a lot to be said about O'Shea that would be interesting and worthwile, imo, but there's already too much written about him and it's fluff.

I think he's a serious sportsman, and a leader beyond his years, but I can see alright how beyond the county it's all so much guff while he doesn't carry us over the line or hasn't yet made an impact in a final.

Can only say that his discipline in reining in his natural game- which has turned him from imo the best player in the country a few years back, and a gamechanging showman talent for football into the sacrificial dynamo of a mayo outfit functioning well above the sum of their parts- earns him a huge amount of credit from my POV

But it can't be denied, when you see Connolly walk off that bench today and drag four men around before scoring probably the most important point of the day, there's an element to O'Shea's big game performance that's sorely missing if he's to eliminate the doubters.

XP I've only seen that. Poor show. Though I must say I find it hilarious how football heads clutch their skirts at anything like that but condone and encourage constant physical assaults throughout the actual game.

THE CURSE IS REAL

What does everyone think about the notion of splitting Dublin into a South and North Dublin team? Colm O'Rourke advocated it iirc. I'm not gone on the idea myself. I know GAA is trendy amongst kids in Dublin now and has probably superseded rugby as sport of choice in parts of South Dublin (correct me if I'm wrong). Anyway, it seems a tad alarmist tbh.

Joe Brolly said Aiden O'Shea was picked on the team of the year for "sentimental reasons"

They won today by a point, and while they didn't do themselves justice mayo will feel there's a lot that could've been improved too.

Last year there was a point between us over two games.

Talk of splitting the county based on that seems a bit premature.

That's not to mention that fucking Kerry minor team. If croker was winner stays on today them lads would've two medals each imo.

That David Clifford kid is a phenomenon

https://soundcloud.com/daniel-kelly-143/mid-wests-commentary-of-the-final-moments-of-dublin-v-mayo

fucking hell that is a rich combo of funny and hilarious. "it's like an injection you don't want and it keeps going"

gotta say the co-commentator there drifts into the sort of stuff that annoys me, like acting as if it's wrong or an injustice or something. there is no "deserve".

i meant to say "a rich combo of hilarious and sad" honest, oops.

the whole split dublin thing is just bollocks - you can't have an all-ireland in which one county is forced to field regional teams. the only amusing element is it might end up dublin v dublin some years.

what i wish would happen, and i dunno how we get there, is for there to be a few more teams at the level of mayo, kerry and dublin. the mayo kerry first game and dublin mayo yday were some of the best gaa i've ever seen. we need more of that all season.

Everything about that radio clip sounds like from the 1970s for some reason, which is wonderful.

If people only understood where I come from they'd have a lot more appreciation about the efforts I'm making tbh

second captains was good today, mike quirke made some of the points i made upthread in a more calm manner.

No craic in that

lolz.

It was good. Tbh it needed another hour tho, I mean the game itself got little or nothing and as an actual match it deserves a full analysis.

Little disappointed that this didn't break gaa in wider ilx, there might never be a better advert ito buildup, context and actual delivered match

Did you advertise it outside this thread? Bcz the thread title is not the most inviting for newcomers.

Learning to appreciate a completely new sport is hard. I got into hurling because of ilx, your thread, and - I think I said this before - for the first hundred posts or so I thought you were all taking the mick, Truman Show like. I couldn't believe it actually existed. That was enough for me to get intrigued. Read about the rules, watch matches etc. But it takes an effort and I will for ever be way, way behind the two of you, because it's not in my cultural dna.

Hurling sucked me in GAA football, too, and I've embraced both, though at a molecular level it's still hard; I notice I miss things other people notice. Not a score, but the tiny things, things from around the game. And feels.

Having said that, someone like LJ should be all over this. Die-hard rooting for Tyrone, or whoever is the equivalent of Jute Gyte in GAA football.

I can't stop listening to that midwest radio thing upthread. Martin Carney fucking loses it at 3 mins 12, like embarrassingly so in my opinion. His voice betrays an entitled rage that has no justification to it - I'd go as far as to see that kind of voice is part of the problem. Also there's a palpable vibe of the two guys secretly relishing the return of their old friend Mr Pain at the end. The game isn't even over and they're not open to the possibility of an equaliser. As a Dublin fan I still was nervous in the final minutes, they sound certain, but there's also a sense of the tension being relieved, of everything being easier when the thing you feared happens once again.

It's some fucking dark shit.

but i'm sorry, it's also hilarious. the main commentator actually has the tone of voice and words of a whining child. carney is like as if he genuinely believes this is the greatest injustice of all time - to lose a game, fairly played, between a couple of great teams. and his bitterness at "dublin will do whatever now, they'll do anything" - like as if we're supposed to try a fucking banana shot from the halfway line rather than (in truth, masterfully) passing the ball around to end the game despite a ludicrous addition of two spare minutes.

almost every dublin fan i've spoken to has a p negative view of mayo, which feels harsh, but the likes of carne are responsible for this. i spoke to a pal before the game last week who's v active in gaa in dublin and he said "i thought i'd never hate a team as much as meath, i was wrong" - feels tough enough on a side that gives it such a lash but i am fairly sure it all comes from the weird sense of hype around mayo, even in defeat they get the column inches. there is an element of addiction to the cycle of hurt and heroism - someone could write a thesis let alone an article.

i mean if carney drifted into the vein of a man howling at the cosmos for its indifference, seeking reasons for the random hurt and injustice of existence, then i could be down with it. but i don't get that from his tone.

Far be it from me to say anything about this being your focus two days after three in a row

It's a nice luxury for ya imo

haha it's not really my focus, just itt. i've spent a lot of time discussing the dubs in the last 36 hours, with family and friends. i don't know anyone from mayo so you're the sounding board here.

I think there was one added minute to injury time. It was warranted imo and didnt a dublin player get a black card

Another fucking cross to bear o it's too much god help us, mayo

there was a lot more than one, i'd need to see it again but from memory there were 6 minutes added and he blew up at least 78:30, maybe 79:00. it was a joke. there were stoppages within the six but not three minutes' worth.

blew up at 78:50. I felt it was excessive at the time

Agreed on the stoppage time

it was deflationary for us imo, to be one down and maybe two minutes to play I think we could have used the urgency to push one last time

With six to go, it was a real sense of dubs in ten ascendancy and even if we snatched one - and let's be real they never looked like letting that happen- there was no trouble to the dubs to hit us again and then another few mins of holding us off.

The three minute the ref added, it was over at that stage tbh

Not sidestepping the duty, but as far as being a sounding board goes for the MWR listening, Dublin hating, sorrow loving, conspiracy theorist mayo fan, and again I'm not for a second saying these ppl don't exist in great numbers, I'm probably not your guy.

I mean I'm the mayo fan other mayo fans slag for being Judas if not joining in on all that shite, if I don't predict a win in teh final, all that stuff

I'm not, if spurs and Ireland haven't given it away, that type of supporter trevor

Xpost There might have been 2 minutes actually. Yknow yourself the ref is always going to give the other team a chance to score in a game that tight.

I was watching the game with my dad and when Dublin were playing keep ball in the dying seconds he said "ah they shouldnt be doing that". THATS EXACTLY WHAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING

yeah it was more curiosity as to their existence rather than lumping you all in together.

i do kinda think dublin did what they had to do. and if they had to do more they would have. they don't play with wild abandon in the finals under gavin, they never have. they just put themselves in a position to win, in the last 5-10 minutes, and usually take the opportunity. read jim mcguinness there talking about mayo throwing it away in the last 10 etc, and having the job done, and it's kinda silly. i don't have stats to hand but i bet dublin score a heap in the last 5-10 minutes. they have beaten the likes of kerry by 6/7 points having been level on 62 mins. a lot of that is the bench but they're also incredibly calm.

xpost the keep ball really irritates people but it's actually effective. two years ago in the semi-final they did that for 6/7 minutes and sucked the entire mayo defence to one corner of the midfield then passed to kev mc and he scored a goal.

cluxton did have one really loose handpass tho.

xpost to deems re "curiosity about their existence"

McGuinness is right about what Mayo have to learn but I think his use of that game to support the thesis was 100% forced and incorrect.

Nobody in the country thinks that you can shut down this Dublin team with 7 minutes left to play and only two points in it, and certainly no Mayo fan wanted us to try.

The moments that mattered, where it felt like we had a chance, were when we were dominating the midfield battle, Keegan goal, and the two seconds prior to Vaughan's moment.

I don't think McGuinness's suggested tactics would've worked as he says and I don't think we could have had the success we did in the game with that mentality.

tbh subbing McLoughlin and Moran felt like bad calls at the time, and seeing how we never really got through ye again after that I'm inclined to call them out as confirmed mistakes.

LBI have you watched it back yet!

I think McGuinness overstated the thing a bit too - there were times where Dublin were a bit rattled but no more than during the games of recent years. Two years ago Mayo scored a goal second half and pushed ahead. Last year in both matches they had spells of dominance. But he is the high priest in the cult of "cause chaos in the Dublin ranks" - he's been dining off being the only person to beat Gavin for a long time.

The unstated fact is that it takes a hell of a lot to play this Dublin team that way. Add the bench they have into it and it's not tactical nor individual failure when they come strong at the end of a match, it's absolutely inevitable.

Watched it last night! Of course not nearly as entertaining when you know the score already. Plus I miss the extra added tension of having a favorite side. Still, I thought especially the second half was great fun. I thought it was strange how Mayo played in ET. They seemed out of it, all of a sudden, bit all over. O'Connor was great. Vaughn's red was so stupid.

Discarding that I knew the outcome already, Mayo just never looked like they'd nick it the last 15 mins or so.

jesus ill say this much

i wouldnt want paul kimmage on my tail

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/paul-kimmage-low-lie-the-fields-of-athenry-the-gaa-story-every-parent-will-want-to-read-36879150.html

im pissin myself the more i think about this

what must he be like to live with

well that was a particularly fucking horrible injury

Yea very nasty. Poor guy.

Caught the last 6 minutes of that game today. I'd say they were the best minutes

seen angle from behind and i just cannot

I caught a glimpse of it on one of those GAA banter pages. Yikes

rip

just when i thought i was out

that goal from carr is the type of individual brilliance the team hasnt had since the crossmolina ronaldinho himself

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/darragh-%C3%B3-s%C3%A9-playing-mayo-is-like-cod-liver-oil-you-don-t-enjoy-it-but-you-re-better-for-it-1.3951744

read that now and tell me that you dont want to get in the gaa. poetry.

oh its huge from the start this one

comprehensive victory for committed competence here

mayo opting for another approach

Thought it'd be a tighter game tbh

spillane and everyone else did but the prick was like Nostradamus at half time

mayo havent shown

Standard is poor in this game

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cr4eS2CUEAED_gp.jpg

Kerry will be cannon fodder for Dublin

split the dubs into fifteen teams imo

That was a great All Ireland final. Kerry blew their chance. If they almost lost to a 14 man Dublin team, I wouldn't rate their chances in the replay.

ulster cpub semi final is a belter on rte2 right now lads, big final few minutes in it

Play it again, Sam

Perennial sleeping giants and serial losing finalists Mayo take on Dublin tomorrow, 3.30pm

17.00

Lads

Of all years...... surely

I knew putting this in ILF was a mistake

Lads this is the fuckin one, read this and tell me you're not a mayoman

We are all of us mayomen

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40193160.html

well David Hickey as a urologist is used to talking pish, up the MAYO

Your support is noted and appreciated

Not even nervous for this, because ive been watching the grinch and now phineas fogg sure how could u be worried

Well the pattern is set as always

Outplay em, between conceding all those goals

I just tuned in now. Dublin got a goal in 2 seconds or some shit?

14

Mayo level by two mins

Playing pure shite

Hand passing woeful

Be nice to actually make em work for it

Mmm lovely point

All level but not much good when we have to kill ourselves for it and they can saunter up and destroy us in the last half hour

Its like the dubs have agreed to spar with us, everyone knows they will get a goal on demand

Mayo backline is weak, and not just vs dub forwards, sleepy stuff

Decent spells of play but really need to make the man advantage count

Ref has utterly fucked us with two calls there

Walk in croke park from here

Put a fork in em, they're done

The greatest team of all time playing at home with unlimited finacial and personnel resources shouldn't need ref decisions to win matches, just an opinion

Flat is an understatement

Any other two teams any other stadium thats a red obv

Mayo have burst their arse to get this close, dubs will close it out handy from here with 15 men

Maybe not but the extra three men will come in handy from now on

Mayo lead, this is the dark moment

thoughts and prayers

Eight minutes to midnight lads

The interest is in how we manage to fuck this

Ans is ofc a soft goal

Six minutes to midnight

Still only the inevitable goal in it

Will it be a keeper error, an OG, will it be from a particularly unnecessary turnover?

Time will tell

well i'm gonna listen to Iron Maiden now so there's at least that

Fear of Croke Park

:D <3

Jesus big hits this late

Kerry will make shit of us no doubt

Game on here but kerry should have enough from here

Im in bits

Id rather dublin or kerry than these fuckin cool customer bandits

Kerry seemed to be very dependent on Clifford, thought theyd be a lot better.

Tyrone surprise teams that are far better on paper by dictating terms

If mayo allow them to do that they will lose

Early in the day for a second bottle but here i am

If thats United its a pen

Two nothing goals given, three good chances spurned, a penalty missed

Why would god help mayo any more than he already does, the fuckin wasters

Absolutely rank mental performance from mayo, got what they deserved