― smee (smee), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 13:49 (twenty years ago) link
However, not be reasonable guarantee equality of to ask the law, it would or an individual nobody would expect, to result. (In fact, equality of opporunity of inequality of result.) In other words, all actors in society to be entitled life experiences as all others, and even is more or to exactly the same less a guarantee if we expected an open-minded person to be willing to consider marrying every race, one partners of all races, we wouldn't expect him or her to actually marry someone from after the other. At some point one leaves abstract principles (of equality) and Choice is inevitable. makes a commitment to a particularity. One judges. One chooses. It would be silly to say that every choice is against the things unchosen a massive discrimination
― hommus (ken c), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 13:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Skottie, Tuesday, 13 April 2004 13:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Kim (Kim), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 13:50 (twenty years ago) link
i get the feeling that the actual points of my posts early would never actually be read, anyway.
― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 14:07 (twenty years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 14:08 (twenty years ago) link
IRL, I think there are very few cases where race and gender are immaterial to judgement. These are still 'differences that make a difference', and need to be taken into account when we make judgements. If they aren't, our judgements can't be fair. So I think the image of Justice wearing a blindfold is a rather silly one, and I also think that to call people 'racist' and 'sexist' -- if it just means they take race and gender into account -- is a wrongheaded criticism.
'My it ain't so open that anything could crawl right in...'
― Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 14:09 (twenty years ago) link
― Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 14:10 (twenty years ago) link
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― Kim (Kim), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 14:13 (twenty years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 14:14 (twenty years ago) link
― Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 14:15 (twenty years ago) link
― Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 14:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Kim (Kim), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 14:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Kim (Kim), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 14:22 (twenty years ago) link
― Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 14:24 (twenty years ago) link
shorthand = prejudice
― Kim (Kim), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 14:25 (twenty years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 14:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Kim (Kim), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 14:26 (twenty years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 14:28 (twenty years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 14:28 (twenty years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 14:31 (twenty years ago) link
― Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 14:33 (twenty years ago) link
― Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 14:35 (twenty years ago) link
― Kim (Kim), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 14:37 (twenty years ago) link
― Liz :x (Liz :x), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 14:39 (twenty years ago) link
― Kim (Kim), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 14:42 (twenty years ago) link
The thing is, choices and decisions and value judegements are necessary. We all need closure at some point. If everything is sub-judice all the time, it's chaos. And the context I most hear that phrase in is when the authorities gag the press, telling them they can report something because it's being judged. In other words, 'You can't judge this before I do.'
― Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 14:45 (twenty years ago) link
― Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 14:46 (twenty years ago) link
always happy to help
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 15:24 (twenty years ago) link
― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 15:32 (twenty years ago) link
This would actually be the greatest thing ever and will be the cornerstone of my 2008 presidential campaign.
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 16:14 (twenty years ago) link
― Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 16:37 (twenty years ago) link
― VengaDan Perry for President (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 16:41 (twenty years ago) link
He'll give it to everyone.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 17:07 (twenty years ago) link
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 17:09 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 17:14 (twenty years ago) link
― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 17:15 (twenty years ago) link
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 17:16 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 17:17 (twenty years ago) link
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 17:18 (twenty years ago) link
― Ricardo (RickyT), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 17:24 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris H. (chrisherbert), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 17:37 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 17:47 (twenty years ago) link
― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 17:48 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris H. (chrisherbert), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 17:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Lil' Fancy Kpants (The K is Silent) (ex machina), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 18:01 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris H. (chrisherbert), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 18:07 (twenty years ago) link
Offtopic: Most people I'd met from India before college were the children of Muslim doctors immigrants. Why?
― Lil' Fancy Kpants (The K is Silent) (ex machina), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 18:10 (twenty years ago) link
no.. those two examples are equivalents. it would be racist to say "all asian women are unattractive"
― don, Tuesday, 13 April 2004 18:29 (twenty years ago) link