funky house sceptics, let me draw your attention to this

All that said people should check out the Scratcha DVA House & Funkstep mix, both to make up their own minds and because there's heaps of tracks here nicely ID'd by the tracklisting:

*HOUSE
1 Viktor Duplaix – Lust 4 Life
2 Fingaprint – Rising Sun
3 Donaeo – Love To Happen
4 Gracious K – Migraine Skank
5 Seany B ft Alahna Faye – Want Me Back
6 DJ Naughty – Quicktime (Roska Remix)
7 Roska ft Jamie George – Wonderful Day
8 Sticky – Jeremiah Riddim
9 Geeneus ft Katy B – As I (Scratcha Dubplate Special)
10 DVA ft Alahna – I'm Leaving (MA1 Remix)
11 Fuzzi Logik – The Way You Move

*FUNKSTEP
12 Donaeo - Be Mine
13 DVA – Congo
14 Yonurican – Boriken Soul
15 Roska – The Shephard
16 S.Chu – Hard Dough Bread
17 Ill Blu – Dragon Pop
18 DVA – The End
19 DVA – Natty
20 Deep Down
21 D Malice – Unnecessary
22 Cooly G – Akai
23 Speech Debelle – Spinnin (DVA Funkstep Remix)
24 Soul Dynamics – Make A Choice (Audiowhores Remix)
25 Raven (Remix)
26 DVA – Jelly Roll
27 MJ Cole – United Groove (L-Vis1990 Remix)
28 So Solid – 21 Seconds (DVA & Roska Funkstep Remix)

On the "funkstep" section ("Unnecessary" is funkstep now?) I think the only bad track is "The End" (a halfhearted rip-off of the Felix Da Housecat/M.I.A. track Scratcha likes), while tunes like "Hard Dough Bread" and "Deep Down" are excellent.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/b27n2w

nice little primer with marcus nasty here -
http://www.dummymag.com/features/2009/09/25/marcus-nasty-i-can-t-explain-why-but-i-love-it-/

lol@barbie music.

fyi

@geeneus i would just like to state that when i said funkstep that i was actually joking and it was a cuss to people that think they are making funky
about 1 hour ago from web

If I may respond to the bit above, re: the XLR8R article... since I edited the piece, here's sort of how it ended up as Funkstep(?). Basically, we worked on this piece for a number of months, originally with the hopes that we were gonna nail down once and for all this thing we know as UK Funky. As time went on, and as the writer spoke to more and more producers and DJs, the word on the street from pretty much ALL of them was that Funky was dead -- their words, not ours. So, we changed the tune and let the players in the scene tell the tale, and they told us that at this point what everyone knew as funky was no longer what funky really was... the girls had left the club, the nasty skanks and hoods had taken over and made the genre even more laughable, and its main players were on to something entirely different... bringing it all back to the lab, as it were, and twisting in more 'intelligent', darker, dubstep-ier bits. 'hell, we're calling it funkstep and dubbage now' is essentially what they were all saying. So who are we to do anything but report the news?

And yes, we note that Geeneus was just taking the piss... hence the question mark in the title.

theyre not the only ones saying funky is dead.

Who's pushing funkstep as a distinct sound though, apart from Scratcha DVA and Roska, who already work together?

The idea that "the main players were onto something entirely different... bringing it all back to the lab, as it were, and twisting in more 'intelligent', darker, dubstep-ier bits" is just absolutely, categorically wrong, because it turns 2-3 producers out of a hundred or more into "the main players" based on... what exactly? They both have shows on Rinse? So does Marcus Nasty.

Plus even putting 'intelligent' in scare-quotes doesn't change the fact that the article tacitly endorses this assumption that somehow "funkstep" records are more experimental etc. even though they mostly basically take their cues from Lil' Silva, i.e. the most popular producer for rappers to jump on. 90% of the difference between funkstep and "nasty skanks" is the absence of vocals.

And the dubbage guys have been sour on funky for, like, a year and a half - for them it's not a case of funky being "dead", they just wish it had never deviated from "proper" house in the first place.

WELL we shall see what marcus nasty, crazy cousinz and lil silva bring us @ beyond tonight then. unless i flake from exhaustion early (nb: likely)

almost went beyond. but too knackered. went to blackmarket today to pick up some funky records. but they had nothing new. only cooly g eps on cd for SEVEN quid!

OK SO that was all kinds of incredible, musically. idk what went on w/the sets - scratcha seemed to play for ages (and his set was seriously BIG), then lil silva played...like, two tracks, then marcus nasty came on?

ANYWAY: i guess the main guiding aesthetic would've been the fantastic 4 ep, i think all those tracks were rinsed at some point. but it kept veering off down all these unexpected tangents - a vague dubstep grumble here; a ton of karizma and hard house banton there; and yes, a ton of diva/r&b vocal tunes, loads of which i didn't recognise (one with a repeated "only once i've seen you" hook, another with a "can't say no, can't say no" hook). scratcha played this one AMAZING tune w/a soprano sample and big chunky bassline. and there appears to be a rather slinky track out there which interpolates white town's "your woman" as the hook (sung by a female vocalist) and has wiley on verses. loads better than the overrated og. also some sort of female-vocalled version of "love lockdown" - not the greenmoney refix - ALSO loads better than the og.

what was kinda disappointing: as per that xlr8r piece, kyla was right. too many man too many man. it was fine for a while but goddddd why are there suddenly so many dudes flailing around and almost fucking moshing??? get away from funky dancefloors! i know it's beyond so a slightly more dude-centric crowd but none of the beyonds or even funky-centric fwds i've been to were as "too many man" as that. no wonder, if funky's getting associated w/dudes treating it like a grime rave, that its producers want to get away from that.

still, wrt the various appellations being tossed around from month to month - i think, as i tweeted the other day, these ephemeral genre names are the product of genres currently in real flux due to astonishingly high levels of creativity from so many directions. a lot of really individual, distinct producers and djs working within the same scene and taking influences from such a variety of sources. it's a really exciting time to be paying attention to the whole of this spectrum.

OHHHH yeah another highlight - scratcha dropping that BIG PHAT KICK DROP MAKES THE GIRLIES GET SOME vocal from the felix/diddy mixtape!!!

bless you, youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXuNnCmURwc

and OHHHH yeah the geeneus/ms dynamite tune was also dropped, bigger than ever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-g-QimJKlc

and i've just stumbled across this new stush track which sounds ridiculously heavy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXVFpNNr9Io

I really enjoyed Scratcha's set but yeah he was on for ages!

After Marcus finished last night the whole thing degenerated into everyone standing around watching Jammer and the other grime people that were there mosh around - rubbish

The female vocals version of "Love Lockdown" is by DJ Naughty, and yeah it's amazing.

agh why are there no mp3s of this anywhere :(

Believe me I know!! But also it's very difficult to search for :-(

i forgot: bits of scratcha's set veered unexpectedly into an almost fidget-house direction. this is the sort of thing i mean when i say it's all completely in flux.

all the anthems got dropped too - "in the morning", "gabryelle refix", "pull it"...

Lex I'd be interested to hear your opinion of his pure funkstep set (linked above) compared to the set you're describing (which sounds much more my thing obv)

Also did you hear the actual Fantastic 4 dj set on Rinse a while back - Ill Blu / Roska / Scratcha / D-Malice all taking turns playing 2 tracks each?

That was great. So many amazing unreleased Ill Blu dubs in particular.

nah i never have time to listen to 4hr rinse sets, dunno how you manage it!

By never listening to anything else anymore basically :-/

Except Electrik Red I guess.

This is the one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTWZWA-sDEI

BLOODY HELL (reposted from Dissensus):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiKqbMbosz4

still, wrt the various appellations being tossed around from month to month - i think, as i tweeted the other day, these ephemeral genre names are the product of genres currently in real flux due to astonishingly high levels of creativity from so many directions. a lot of really individual, distinct producers and djs working within the same scene and taking influences from such a variety of sources. it's a really exciting time to be paying attention to the whole of this spectrum.

― lex pretend, Friday, 2 October 2009 10:56 (2 days ago) Bookmark

this otm i think.
yeah that geeneus/ms dynamite track is so so huge. it got dropped at beyond like four times or sth by various people, but never quite had the dancefloor impact i thought it deserved. kode9 dropped it at the 2562 album launch party at corsica studios on friday tho - brilliant!

way behind, but "Crackish" and "Pull It, Wheel It" are slaying me right now

can't find an mp3 of "Crackish" tho :(

It's been retitled "get low", though that doesn't help re finding mp3s either

more femme MC bangers please UK funky!

lol at the retitling. much less memorable!

was it "skeptics" originally?

ha that was my first thought too but Iko/lko is referring to the Geeneus/Ms Dynamite track, which seems to have been retitled from "Crackish" to main lyric "Get Low".

funky house septics

i think the instrumental was crackish but its now been retitled for the vocal. kinda standard way of doing things...

yup was referring to crackish. was the thread retitled too or sth?

http://dissensus.com/showpost.php?p=205204&postcount=3890

suppose i'm munching garage madeleines in enjoying another mc crowdscene so much more than i do your average, but this set is different gravy to me still.

(ps i would call attention to the dude bigging up "tim geek in australia" at 16:52 but turns out that is somewhat overshadowed by "big up clive anderson" at 14:00. soz.)

Yeah that set is brill, though the sound quality is harsh esp. on earphones.

Tim Geek in Australia:

http://twitter.com/g33k84

How great is the rap about garage immediately afterwards that though.

This new Digital Dubstar/Miss Fire track reminds me of those circa 2000 garage tracks with the massive instrumental b-line drops. Does Miss Fire ever put a foot wrong?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UQqP47M5Ns

bah don't remind me about footloose leaving 1xtra, i'm devastated enough as it is! the funkstep fiasco erupting the same week as him doing one was a savage coincidence and a half.

although yes i am aware he's subbing for dj q already.

http://www.myspace.com/dennisferrer

have you heard this new 'hey hey' ferrer cut?? i just thought he mightve been cashing in on a bit of cockney love on some roska 'lovely day' tip, but turns out he went the whole hog and got lol VIVIEN GOLDMAN to do that vocal. cleanup on aisle reynolds!!

also since reynolds insists on being such a cheap cloth-eared dick wrt to scoring random sub-carmodian points off broken beat so he can belatedly work funky into the nuum - look dogg, a funky relick of afronaught's 'transcend me' - http://www.myspace.com/tribalaudio

really like that out of everyone geeneus (however negligibly) ended up remixing 'good life' - very much his sort of detroity sound to begin with no?

happily i guess this also now means you don't have to listen to lifelong r&b troopers who just so happen to find themselves operating in a post-dubstep milieu to hear los da maestro in a funky set. phew.

i expected more from geeneus remaking good life. its like something some no-name would do. and yeah, cos hes always been pretty technoy anyway i thought it would be more inspired.

would love it if some funky producer remade IG cultures the sun or something. or just played it at least.

transcend me is good when the singing stops.

I think about 50% of the music ppl dl from me on s1sk is funky.

That Stush track Lex linked to is phenomenal. It's made me realise that, what I want more than anything, is her spitting over a ruff physical funky remix of Green Velvet's 'Answering Machine'.

"I don't need this <squeak>SHIT!</squeak>"

Was thinking about how "Get Low" almost cynically targets all my aesthetic biases. It makes me want to resist it and contraristan for something else but there's no point, it's just too satisfying.

I give it six months before a lot of (still) funky house skeptics retrospectively annoint it a classic.